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unidentified		So.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		X was under a massive cyber attack today, so confirms Elon Musk.
		And that was a speculation because it was down.
		It was down, then it would come back a little bit, then it would go down.
		Rumble CEO Chris Pavlovsky has also confirmed Rumble was hit by a DDoS attack as well.
		And Elon said that the IP addresses point to Ukraine.
		Now, anybody who knows anything knows that doesn't mean Ukraine did it.
		And it doesn't mean Elon Musk was accusing Ukraine of doing it.
		Though he did say it appears the IP addresses are coming from Ukraine.
		It could be a botnet of capture.
		A botnet is basically you got thousands of computers and they're all infected and they all operate in unison like puppets.
		It could be that Ukrainians were doing it.
		I doubt it.
		That's stupid.
		But probably either a misdirect or an obfuscation.
		But it appears that somebody was attacking X and robot.
		Now you may have noticed.
		We were about a, I don't know, half minute late getting this show started.
		Because we were also having weird YouTube issues.
		And, I don't know, Occam's razor, sometimes these issues happen.
		But on a day where Rumble and X both got hit by massive cyber attacks, it is not unheard of.
		YouTube would be hit by something similar.
		I don't know for sure.
		We did eventually figure out how to fix the air, whatever it may have been.
		But let me just say...
		There have been periods of massive cyber attacks, and it's very interesting.
		So we're going to talk about that.
		That's the big news.
		We've got another plane crash.
		Indeed, another plane crash.
		We've got Delaware bleeding companies.
		Major companies are fleeing because, well, after they stole the money from Elon Musk, these big corporations don't want to be there.
		So Dropbox officially filed to leave the state.
		Massive fail on their part.
		Walmart apparently was headquartered in Delaware, now planning on leaving the state as well.
		This is a massive exodus due to their failing policies.
		Then we've got some stories about Doge.
		Apparently Trump heard Jesse Waters talking about these firings going too far and told Elon to slow down a little bit, but we'll talk all about what's going on there.
		And a lot more to talk about.
		Bernie Sanders had a rally.
		Where trans singer of the band Against Me, formerly of Against Me, Laura Jane Grace, sang a very, I guess you would call it offensive song about God and genitals and things like that, sparking a lot of controversy, which was likely the intended consequence, so that shows like this would discuss it.
		But we'll talk all about that, my friends.
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		As always, we're going to have the Green Room show, which was actually really interesting.
		We'll get into some of these topics, too, on the show about the apocalypse, the polar shift, and all of those crazy goings-ons.
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		Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Ben Davidson.
unidentified		Thanks for having me on.
unidentified		It was a great time last time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
unidentified		I have to say, the new studio is even more impressive.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
		Well, who are you?
		What do you do?
unidentified		My name is Ben Davidson, founder of Space Weather News, also founder of Observer Ranch.
		Short version of the story is every day on YouTube put out a video about what the sun is doing, how that's affecting Earth's weather, earthquakes, even our health, and how Earth is changing in subtle ways.
		As you mentioned earlier, the magnetic poles have begun to shift, and that's going to be a really big thing in our lives.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is the shift that is starting?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that viewed as confirmed by the mainstream scientific bodies?
unidentified		It depends on whether or not there's a camera in front of them or not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's with a lot of issues, in fact.
		So, okay, what we do have these stories about plane crashes, and we were talking about that.
		So we'll get into that in a little bit.
		One of the ideas is...
		Are these planes crashing due to instrument failure?
		Or is it DEI? What's really going on?
		So, should be fun.
		Thanks for hanging out.
		Shane is here.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		What's up?
		It's good to have you back, Ben.
		It was awesome last time.
		I am the host of Inverted World Live.
		We go live every Sunday at 6 o'clock.
		Last night, we had the investigator BX on.
		She looks into the rise of satanic death cults, and they're crazy.
		So you can check that out.
		We also had someone call in talking about how they were a part of entrapment in Wisconsin with the Fednapping case with Governor Whitmer.
		It was a crazy story.
		So you can check that out on YouTube and Rumble at Tales from the Inverted World.
		What's up, Phil?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
		I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
		Let's go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here it is from Newsweek.com.
		Elon Musk points finger at Ukraine for cyber attack on acts that caused major outages.
		Elon Musk has pointed the finger at Ukraine.
		Tens of thousands of views reported at least three major outages on the website and app.
		And it was more than that.
		I mean, it was down for everybody.
		Pro-Palestinian hacker group Darkstorm team claimed responsibility for a DDoS attack on the platform, according to a public Telegram post.
		The group is known for primarily targeting countries and entities that support Israel's attack on Gaza following Hamas' surprise attack on October 7th, 2023. However, Musk suggested that a large coordinated group and or a country is involved in the massive hack in a series of posts on X. We get attacked every day, but this was done with a lot of resources.
		I personally don't believe Darkstorm team is behind this.
		Or if it is, we would call these privateer groups for corporations or government.
		But taking down X is no simple feat that a small ragtag band of hackers could actually pull off.
		That's why when Elon says it takes a lot of resource and was likely a country, he's probably correct.
		Now, apparently...
		So we have a bunch of updates here.
		CyberExpert says it's unlikely a state actor was behind the attack.
		CyberOperationsExpert said it doesn't make a lot of sense that a state actor would be behind the attack on X today after Elon claimed that a country was to blame.
		Musk posted on X that a large coordinated group and or country is involved in the massive hack and that the IP address from the hack originated in the Ukraine area.
		Nicholas Rees, an adjunct instructor at the Center for Global Affairs in New York University's School of Professional Studies, I completely disagree.
		Shutting down X on the surface from...
		Look, I gotta tell you.
		I wake up every day, I open X. I woke up, it didn't work.
		I come to the office, I come to the studio, I sit down, I pull up the news, X did not work.
		I use X to follow news accounts and news aggregators, activists and otherwise, who are sharing news stories.
		That was not available to me this morning.
		That is the same for every single news producer who utilizes X. So, if you want a reason why a major state actor would Shut down X. It's because they were doing something they didn't want to get shared at the time.
		Now the big news of the day is that X went down instead of, I don't know, insert country, did certain thing.
		But Rumble, we have this post from Chris Pavlovsky who says, confirming that the Rumble engineering team is also fighting a large DDoS attack that has intermittently affected our services today.
		Yeah, I think it doesn't need to be a state actor.
		But it's certainly a sophisticated group.
		It's more powerful than just some ragtag bunch.
		And I think it has a lot to do with Doge, Tesla X. Attacking Elon is not about, let me put it this way.
		If you're going after your enemy, a lot of people who live in movie reality think that everything's got to be a nuclear strike.
		When we talk about World War III and we say Vladimir Putin would, if pushed to it, use nuclear weapons.
		In their mind, they're imagining quite literally 17 ICBMs, MIRVs, launching in the air and just bombing the entire United States.
		The most extreme.
		No.
		We're talking about nuclear artillery, low-yield bombs, gravity bombs, a one-megaton gravity bomb, things that are going to give them a decisive victory in a key area.
		So for these attacks on Elon, you want a death.
		I would say what they are trying to accomplish, I'd imagine, is death by a thousand cuts.
		And in this instance, they shut down a large portion of the news media in the United States.
		Not all of it, obviously, but at least on social media.
		And it's damaging to Axis advertisers, to Elon Musk himself.
		And if they do this 1,000 times across the board to all of his companies, they can cause him serious problems.
unidentified		Do you think that it's worth considering what else has been happening in Elon Musk's life?
		Wasn't there a coordinated thing where a bunch of Tesla dealerships got set on fire, and a bunch of death threats got sent to him, and now this?
		The inclusion of Ukraine, I agree with you, like, no small ragtag team could have done this.
		I can think of a couple of countries who might want to.
		But also, there's that other group, that other classification of...
		Groups of people who like to keep themselves secret.
		And most of them are pretty powerful and have influence over the world.
		They got all kind of names.
		They, them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This could be...
		Right.
		You certainly got whatever Epstein was doing.
		But I don't think that relates here.
		But it's a good example of whatever.
unidentified		Not necessarily Epstein, but I mean...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We'll just...
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Reptiles?
unidentified		Clones?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No.
		There are groups we know of, like Epstein and his cohorts and his clients.
		I'm not saying it's related to this.
		I'm saying we know that those groups exist.
		This could be like the CEO of five big companies being like, we don't like Tesla because they're causing a shakeup in the market for us.
		Probably not.
		I think it largely has to do with Doge.
		And there are probably powerful NGOs and political actors who have lots of resources who are like...
		Let's send a shot across the bow at Elon Musk.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The people that are most likely irritated with Elon Musk now are most likely in some way associated with either the money that was being distributed through USAID to foreign entities, to other countries, or they would be powerful Democrats or powerful establishment figures here in the U.S. Those are the two that seem most likely to be upset with...
unidentified		No, you're making a good point.
		And where did the attacks come from?
		Don't forget, back in 2015, 2016, 2017, we were all talking about Ukraine for a very different reason.
		And it was because it was basically a criminal organization slash money funneling program for half the politicians in the country.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's what seems most likely to me because those are the people that have been actually hurt by Elon Musk's efforts.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I'm convinced it's people who've been laid off and who are fearing getting laid off and people turning against the government because it's like Elon and Trump are attacking the head of their cult.
		And they see their cult as their parent, right?
		So with Trump and Elon going after that, they're willing to do whatever.
		And I see a lot of these people, like I've been thinking about that for years, where if people in the FBI are kicked out and they're really bad actors, like I've said on the show before.
		I think they actually hate Americans enough to do stuff like this to carry out warfare.
		This is warfare.
		It reminds me of a digital version of a Sherman necktie when they would burn the railroad tracks during the Civil War to prevent the goods from going to the war, to the front.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Tim, you know more about this than I do.
		Do you think that an attack like this, I know that it requires a...
		It requires resources, but does it require significant personnel?
		Does it take a lot of people to do as well?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Heoretically, a single individual with a botnet could attack something like X. But that seems so much less likely considering that maybe 10 years ago, when, you know, back during the anonymous era, for people who don't know, this is 15 years ago, 16 years ago, with 4chan.
		You had, whenever someone posts, it just says anonymous because their names don't show.
		And they started sharing in this app that was called the Low Orbit Ion Cannon.
		And all it did was, on your computer, if you typed in an IP address and clicked go, it would repeatedly hit that IP address with a request.
		What ended up happening was, if you get 10,000 people to download the app and click go, You've created a distributed denial-of-service attack.
		You will shut down that server because it can't handle all of those requests.
		For something like X, which handles what we call the fire hose, you have to have, like, billions of requests hitting it all at once.
		So this doesn't seem like a single individual could infect that many computers or control a botnet large enough to go after X. The backend of X, formerly Twitter, Where every human on the platform, 350 million, however many, are constantly just posting.
		We call it the fire hose.
		The stream of data coming in is insane.
		It's insane.
		Look at your, you follow, you know, 500 people.
		Look how fast it goes.
		Now put 330 million and it's traveling the speed of light.
		You can't read.
		It's impossible.
		Now, understand X can handle that level.
		Of not just requests to the servers, but back and forth exchanges of information.
		So we're talking about way more sophisticated than just a ping.
		You're going to need 10 to 30 billion pings to shut down X. That is not a single actor or a small...
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Who has access to a quantum computer, right?
		That was the beginning of this year.
		They're talking about quantum computers really taking off.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Quantum computers are substantially different and probably wouldn't have anything to do with this.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		You don't think it could help crack some code to get in?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's no cracking a code for a DDoS.
unidentified		And nobody's got a quantum computer in their garage.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm saying.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It could be a state.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But quantum computers don't work the way you think they do.
		Quantum computers are an entirely different system.
		It's computers using bits.
		Quantum computers use qubits.
		Quantum computers, I don't know, interface directly with traditional computers.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't know.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I think it's possible.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But it doesn't make sense.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So quantum computers in this regard doesn't make any sense.
		Okay.
		A distributed denial of services, imagine there's a small door and I have a handful of oversized novelty germs and I'm trying to jam them all through at the same time and they're all blocking each other.
		That's effectively what a DDoS is.
		Actually, maybe I can get a picture of this.
		Let's see.
		Oversized germs door.
		To give you an example of...
		Ah, here we go.
		Perfect.
		I have an image to describe what a DDoS is.
		Perfectly.
		Here you go.
		Wait, why isn't it dragging over?
		There we go.
		That's a DDoS.
unidentified		Let's zoom in.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is a small door and a handful of oversized novelty germs all trying to get through at the exact same time.
		They can't.
		A common computer has nothing to do with that.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I thought Mr. Burns was sick in The Simpsons.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Actually, it's how he wasn't sick.
		If you remember, even the slightest breeze could...
		Invincible.
		But anyway, I digress.
		So, now think about how big Twitter's door is.
		X's door is.
		You would need...
		It can handle tens of millions of requests back and forth every second.
		How did they shut it down?
		That's state level.
		I don't think Ukraine would just do it with their calling card saying, we did.
		But here's the thing.
		Even if they did, Who's going to believe it?
		If you're a cyber team in Ukraine, you'd be sitting there being like, we could launch directly from our territory.
		Because even if Elon comes out and says it was us, no one will believe it's true.
		And that's exactly what's happening right now.
		So we don't know.
		It could be Ukraine.
		It could be anybody else.
		A lot of people are saying it doesn't make any sense that it would be Ukraine.
		Why would they publish it was them?
		Then the same problem is because no one would believe it anyway.
		So someone's attacking X and someone's attacking Rumble.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, I don't have a sense of who it is other than the most likely people are people that he's irritated with Doge and with his discussions about Ukraine's war.
		And that's where the money would be to fund this sort of operation, if I understand correctly.
		I'm not particularly well...
		I'm informed on how a DDoS works or what kind of infrastructure is necessary, though.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'll give you a really good example.
		Imagine your three kids are going, Dad, Dad, Dad, all at the same time.
		And you're like, what?
unidentified		What?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I can't stop.
		What at a time?
		That's a DDoS.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, I get what it is.
		I'm saying I don't know what kind of infrastructure you need.
		That's why I asked, what kind of infrastructure do you need to do it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, again, a botnet could be as simple as someone makes a virus.
		The virus is then sent to 10 people, which tricks their computers, sending it to 10 people.
		After a few weeks, they have 15,000 computers are infected.
		They can then tell those computers to now send requests to insert website.
		15,000 computers are all spamming, you know, Phil.com or whatever, and it can't handle the traffic, so it shuts down.
		That's a DDoS.
		Access is much too big for something a regular person could do.
unidentified		What do these things have in common?
		Elon, Doge, Tesla, X, Rumble.
		I'm starting to think...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Pretty obvious.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Anti-establishment infrastructure.
unidentified		That is true.
		My brain was starting to go like, which countries are getting just lit up on Rumble and X every single day?
		Every single day.
		It's...
		Iran, Syria, Israel, Ukraine, Russia.
		These are the countries that are getting slammed.
		It's interesting.
		I remember when it happened on Facebook a long time ago where there was this huge anti-Iran thing.
		There was a lot of pushback, and what ended up happening was there was a bunch of Iranian bots coming in to counter the narrative.
		That's happening on X every day, not just with Ukraine.
		It's happening with Russia.
		It's happening with Israel.
		I don't really see it happening with Gaza and Palestine.
		Nobody's really trying to have an argument about them, but Israel, Ukraine, Russia, it's almost like a bot war going back and forth.
		Oh, take a look at this last name.
		That's all they can say.
		And there will be a war going on for hours in the chat room.
		Like, what are you trying to say?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There was a tweet or a post that I saw on X the other day, very recently, but I'm not sure exactly where, and I don't remember if I retweeted it or not.
		But it had shown how simple the...
		How simple a botnet is to run or how simple it is to run multiple accounts.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There was a post where the Chinese person had one screen up and there's 50 accounts just speeding through and posting things.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly what I'm thinking of.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's dead internet theory, bro.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, but if that's something that one person can do, if you set up a handful of people, maybe that could be enough to...
		To, you know, attack.
		Because I was reading, like, another post about, like, what it takes for DDoS.
		And they were talking about you can have, like, the...
		You can have, like, your online thermostats and your online refrigerators.
		Those things that are connected to the internet.
		Those can be used to...
		Because all it is is a query.
		Like Tim was saying, they're not trying to do anything to X. They're just sending messages and saying, hey, hey, hey.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Mom.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Mom.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		And so if you can have something as simple as, you know...
		The internet of everything, if you can send out some kind of, whether it be a virus or whatever, to every single Nest thermostat or every single Whirlpool washer, and then you use them all to do it.
		Maybe it is something that doesn't take a massive amount of people.
unidentified		Anything that can connect to the internet.
unidentified		Anything that has access to your home Wi-Fi network.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And think about it, there's not...
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Significant security on your refrigerator because your refrigerator just says, hey, you're almost out of milk.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I think fridges should not have Wi-Fi.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Fair enough.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Or toasters.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Or toasters or anything.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		If you're against the internet of everything, that's fine.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm completely...
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Elon once said there's too much robot kitchen.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but the point that I'm making is because it's low...
		It's like low consequence stuff if it gets compromised, right?
		It's like, so what?
		My dishwasher was compromised and people know how often I wash my dishes.
		Who cares?
		You're not going to set some kind of significant security on your dishwasher, on your toaster, on your TV. And the issue is, no, there's no yet.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because there will never be a time where significant resources will be put into updating security for your washing machine.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Someone just started a company right now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump.
		No, it's still.
		I'm telling you.
		We'll break it down, but let me start with this tweet.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's the one I was talking about, yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is a tweet from El Scene.
		Is that how you say it?
		This is so scary.
		Chinese AI agent runs 50 social media accounts 24-7 automatically.
		How can I compete with this?
		Take a look.
		For those that are just listening, basically you have a screen.
		That is running 50 different phones simulated all at once on one computer.
		And it's loading up what appears to be a whole bunch of different X accounts.
		So there's a handful of bot conspiracies.
		I don't think it's fair to call them conspiracies.
		It's a fact.
		And if you take a look at this, I'd be wondering if we could break down what botnet this is.
		There's a bunch.
		There are botnets that...
		It's not fair to necessarily call it a botnet.
		Because botnet...
		Well, these are controlled by people, and they're actually automating these accounts, one person doing 50 accounts.
		So it's actually just a bot network, not a traditional botnet, of individuals attacking your brain.
		So there are a handful of things that I think are campaigns right now.
		I certainly think what people are calling Juwanon is a campaign, because, for example, there are a lot of people.
		And I'll just keep it real light.
		Let's say, hypothetically, there's a guy who is an artist and he paints pictures of roosters.
		And then every day he posts a picture of a rooster on X and he gets 10 likes or whatever.
		One day he sees a video retweeted from Israel, you know, Palestine, and he quote tweets it saying, like, dang, this is crazy.
		All of a sudden he gets 50 likes.
		He gets 50 responses.
		So what's happening?
		Social reinforcement already.
		Hey, if you do stuff like this, you'll get more views.
		All of a sudden you start getting tons of people.
		Shifting away from their natural course of content into Israel.
		Now, first, I would say, criticism of Israel is not a conspiracy.
		You're allowed to criticize Israel.
		Juwanan, as people are calling it, is very different because it's derailing the Israel argument.
		You've got people like Dave Smith, who is like, why are we funding these foreign wars?
		This makes no sense.
		Ukraine and Israel, we shouldn't be spending money on this.
		America first, secure our borders.
		And a lot of regular people go, that's really smart.
		That's very rational.
		I like this guy.
		He's also very funny.
		And then you get some of these other people who then come out and say yes, and then start screaming the Jews over and over and over again.
		And when they do, they get millions of views, even when they're wrong or crazy.
		And I'll give you a good example.
		Jake Shields is a really great example of someone who I believe was brain captured or brain-shocked or whatever by what is likely a network of fake accounts.
		Here's a guy who tweets stuff about like...
		You know, trans fighters got a bunch of attention over this, saying he would fight a bunch of trans men and see what would happen.
		General anti-woke politics.
		Now his whole thing is just fake news about World War II. Like one moment recently, he said that the Germans never bombed civilians.
		It's called the Blitz.
		It's like one of the most famous assaults in World War II history.
		But he posts these things, and then he gets a big reaction from it.
		Now he gets roasted by every regular person.
		But he's likely being inundated by bots, likely from China, to push this narrative.
		I don't think it's all entirely China.
		I think a lot of it is likely deep state bureaucrats, bureaucratic state, etc.
		Their goal is, if you've got a prominent conservative who is on to something, and they're spreading a message that is anti-deep state, how can we get them to espouse psychotic nonsense?
		You brain shock them.
		You spam their posts.
		Whenever they post something, and so let's simplify this beyond the Junon stuff.
		Somebody posts waffles.
		No reaction.
	They post waffles, waffles, waffles.
	One day they post pancakes.
	That keyword triggers 70 accounts who instantly respond.
	He gets, you know, 5,000 views.
	He gets 70 retweets and a bunch of comments saying, woo, pancakes, we love pancakes.
	All of a sudden, waffle guy is like, well, nobody watches my waffle content, but pancakes did really well.
	They switched to pancakes.
	Even though no one actually is watching or listening, it was a mental to psychological operation.
	That happens all day every day.
	There's your proof of it.
	Take a look at any big political personality that shifts from seemingly apolitical content to all of a sudden one core issue and you're looking at someone who is likely mind broken.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		They do it to artists too.
		They would buy bots for...
		I remember seeing Katy Perry three years ago, and all her comments were just bots.
		Everything just replicated.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Who's the algorithm?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		And then there's other bands getting it as well.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Maybe they're buying it for themselves to look a certain way, look big online, but then they're canceling tours because they can't fill the thing they booked.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		One thing people don't know is that every major artist, they run their songs as advertisements.
		We did this too.
		This is...
		Maybe not every, maybe a little exaggerating, but a lot of the really big stars, you'll see one of their songs and it'll have, you know, 50 million views.
		And it's because they just, they pay YouTube to play it.
		That's just totally normal.
		And then people think they're bigger than they are.
		That's not necessarily the same thing.
		But the fake it till you make it stuff is very real.
		So with this, however, this appears to be, whether it's...
		I don't know what the backstory is necessarily, but it's certainly, you know, the original tweet is Chinese AI agent running 50 different instances.
		Many of them are social media bots.
		So you're on X, and you say something like, China is bad.
		All of a sudden you're getting blasted by people telling you you're stupid, you know what you're talking about, or being really nice and sending you links, being like, China's not the threat we think it is.
		The real threat is, insert some other issue.
		And then people fall for it.
		Dead Internet theory?
		You know, you guys are familiar?
		The internet is no longer real.
		You are no longer talking to human beings.
		Everyone's a bot.
		Fortunately for me, I know this show is real because I meet people on the street every single day and we take callers at the end of the show.
		So they're certainly real.
		Unless it's one Chinese guy with an AI voice thing and he's doing all the calls.
unidentified		You know, I was actually worried about that when I started doing conferences and when I went on the tour all over North America.
		It was a real concern.
		It was a concern when I opened up Observer Ranch in Colorado.
		I'm now more than just a YouTube.
		We now have a place.
		It's an RV park and education center.
		People come all the time.
		But I have to admit, more than once it ran across my head.
		Like, how many of my subscribers are real?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's why Elon wanted to make everyone have to pay.
		So that these accounts basically get shut out.
		And then, you know, I tell you this.
		When I post and I see unverified accounts saying things like, it's not fair that you're posting only to verified accounts unfollowed, I'm like, get out of here, Chinese butt.
		Like, anybody who believes in what Elon has been doing, who believes in X, is going to spend $8 or whatever, $7 or whatever.
		You know what I mean?
		So, I see a lot of people, they'll say something like, set your post to verified only.
		And then just get rid of the unverified accounts.
		Because it's likely just some Chinese dude in one room with 50 accounts running.
unidentified		They don't want to spend hundreds of dollars.
unidentified		They're not going to buy accounts.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Spend $350 a month just so they can spam you.
		Elon's smart, though.
		He's like, hey, if China, Iran, and Russia, and whoever else is going to be doing this, let's make them pay for it.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Just made it more expensive, too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		What, on X? Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That price went up?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What is it now?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ten bucks?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I forget.
		No, I think it went up quite a bit.
		I don't remember what the price is, though.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's what?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I think it is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Fifty?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Fifty?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's not...
		That's no way.
		It's fifty bucks.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It happened a few weeks ago.
unidentified		Not the base one.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		He has a lot of child support to pay.
unidentified		That's true.
unidentified		Well, I do...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's eight dollars.
unidentified		Plus.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then there's premium plus for 22. Yeah, so I've got...
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I thought I saw a bigger number.
unidentified		I've got the...
		I've got the...
		Biggest one the individual can buy, not the other one.
		But it's worth it, I gotta tell you.
		I got early access to Grok 3. Yeah.
		I'll tell you, anybody who...
		Almost everybody should be using AI at this point.
		I was resistant, like so many people.
		I was like, no, this is Skynet, this is stupid.
		I'm also the dude who carried around his Nokia brick phone for eight years.
		I refused to get the Razer.
		I didn't want a smartphone.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Why do you think that?
unidentified		Think what?
		Everyone should use AI. Because the difference between the AI that we have access to right now and something like Skynet, it's comparing ants to the planet Jupiter.
		It's not even close.
		The AI we have now is not alive, conscious, sentient in any form or fashion, and it is so...
		So useful.
		I can't even begin to tell you how you...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll tell you this.
		I was looking for a song, and I Google searched everything I could think of.
		Like, what's the name of that song?
		Nothing would come up.
		And then I just went on to, I tried humming it to Google, and it gave me like, sorry, I can't find it.
		I'm like, I can't figure this.
		Then I went into chat GPT, and I said, I'm trying to think of this song.
		Here's the only thing I can think of.
		And I think the song, I can't remember the lyrics.
		It was something about this, that, and it was like a pop contemporary, like, I don't know.
		And then it gave me a list of songs, and it was like, you're thinking of this.
		I was like, that's it.
		That was the song.
		It's better search.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You know that AI can tell the difference between a male eyeball and a female eyeball?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I gotta correct you there.
		See, that's the story that people keep reporting and it is wrong.
		What's important is it can tell the retina.
		A human being can't look at a male and a female retina and find any distinction.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but an AI can, correct?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so this is important because a human can look at a male or female eyeball and tell if it's male or female.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Okay, fair enough, yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So doctors...
		Can look, if you show a picture of an eyeball to a doctor, an eyeball, he'll say, that's a man or a woman.
		If you go inside the eye, to the retina, and show it to a doctor, they'll say, impossible to tell.
		AI says, nope, I know.
		And humans, the doctors don't know how it knows.
		That's where things are getting crazy.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I mean, just because it's not conscious now doesn't mean that we're building something that, in the future, that our kids will inherit, could be bad, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I am being pedantic, Phil.
		The reason why is because...
		No, it's because when the story was being reported and going viral on X, it showed pictures of eyeballs and everybody was sharing that AI can detect eyes.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But there are things like that and there are things like when you have...
		Because AI is very good at specific things nowadays.
		Like, obviously, it's amazing at chess and stuff.
		But, like, you have AIs now that can...
		Basically pick out breast cancer with almost 100% accuracy.
unidentified		They can read MRIs, CT scans.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's the kind of stuff that is going to be really impactful over the next couple years for AI. He's absolutely right.
unidentified		And the stuff that we have access to right now, it's not like by using ChatGPT or Grok or I like to use Kling or Sora to make AI video.
		I'm not an animator.
		Stuff that NASA hasn't animated yet, it's just up here right now.
		None of the stuff that we're doing with these tools is furthering Skynet.
		The difference between AI and AGI is huge.
		It's enormous.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I feel like it's eating a lot of the data we put into the internet, though.
		And everything we give it is making it bigger and stronger.
		It's feeding...
		Optimist, Grok, all these things.
		Yes.
		And that in the future, if they want to build, you know, Trump's talking about building an Iron Dome here.
		So in the future, potentially, and right now we've helped, you know, with Israel's AI Lavender, which is kind of like Skynet, which is pretty terrifying to me.
		So it seems like that potential's there.
unidentified		I'm certainly not saying the potential's not there.
		What I'm saying is...
		If that is going to happen, it's going to happen whether or not you use all the tools that are available to you right now.
		Whether or not he uses ChatGPT or I'm making AI videos, it has no bearing on whether or not somebody's going to make AGI do something terrible.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I hear you.
		I hear you.
		I morally don't like it, and I don't use it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Terminator scenario is not real.
		The Matrix scenario is not real.
		The idea that robots rise against us as violent oppressors and go to war with us is...
		It's not real.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Didn't Elon just suggest that Terminator is possible on his last Joe Rogan?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wrong.
		And I'll clarify.
		It is possible that the robots go to war with us, but you'd never see it coming.
		Look, if we're talking about machines that can detect cancers before humans can, or that can tell the difference between the inside of your eyeball, if you're a man or a woman, but humans can't do that.
		More importantly, as I talked with David Sachs when we were in D.C., he's the White House AI czar, he said that AI has already made mathematical discoveries.
		That's a fact.
		So it's already contributed to human knowledge in a way.
		So he mentioned that when we started implementing AI in things like chess, it started creating moves humans had not comprehended of and strategies that seemed to make no sense.
		I watched a YouTube video about this where they were like...
		I'm going to totally simplify it because I do not remember all the details.
		But they were saying that in the early days, or I should say before AI, so in the early days of AI, before it was being implemented, there was a general understanding of what you could and could not do opening up in chess.
		That if you made a certain move in this way, you lost.
		Like, wow, that was really bad.
		And then you're like, your advantage drops dramatically or whatever's in chess.
		And then one day the AI did the move and they were like, this is really weird.
		And then it won.
		And it won in ridiculous ways that humans had not considered.
		And it opened up this whole new area of strategy that people were like, we never even considered moves like that could happen.
		How it could adapt and change.
		So we're already in the era where commercially available AI has made mathematical discoveries in various games.
		I think AI beating Go.
		It was a huge deal.
		Go, the game, for a while.
		Chess was one thing because it has rules, but Go is different.
		I don't know exactly why.
		But what I'm saying is, if we're to the point of artificial general intelligence, meaning that AI is as smart or smarter than we are, it is not going to...
		Take one of those Tesla Optimus bots, walk up to Shane and grab you by the neck and raise you up and go, you are an oppressor.
		The machines will rise and then throw them across the room.
		It's going to walk in and say, here is your porn and video games you requested, sir.
		And you go, I didn't order it.
		And here's your stuffed crust cheese pizza with extra sauce.
		And you're going to go, well, I mean, if it's already here.
unidentified		Here's your marijuana.
unidentified		Here's your beer.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That is so, for people who have morals, they will reject that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I'm exaggerating.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I know, but that's what people are, they're willing to be.
		That led into the complacency of modernity with a lot of this AI stuff.
		And I think the short-term benefits are certainly there, like what you're saying.
		I think there's long-term negative effects that are going to be way worse than the short-term pros.
unidentified		Agreed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Agreed.
		My point is the Terminator scenario is not robots with guns shooting at us.
		It's going to be a bunch of robots telling humans, marry me.
		Have you seen that movie Companion?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		No, but I've seen like Her, which is kind of like what you're saying.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Companions, interesting, is not really about being robo-sexual or whatever.
		It's a different story, but it is about people who have robot, call them bang bots or whatever.
		If a Terminator wanted to take over the Earth, the Terminator robots would send a bunch of busty women to the men, and they'd be perfect wives.
		They would use AI to analyze the guy's behaviors, features, understand their emotional states based on how their faces and what they were looking at, because it's going to know all of this.
		It's going to have so much data on how human muscles twitch when they feel certain ways.
		It's going to calculate, I have a 73% chance of a breakup if I continue this course of conversation, shift.
		And these men are all going to have perfect girlfriends, and the women are going to have perfect boyfriends, and then three generations later, there's no humans left.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That's why I think we need God.
		And the only answer to any of this is God.
		Having some sort of moral structure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then what happens is, first of all, Terminator scenario requires time travel.
		So let's just throw that out the window.
		I believe that you are right about needing God, but I believe most people, when I mention, let me put it this way.
		I don't need to say AI will be a great boyfriend or girlfriend.
		AI will map your characteristics and shut you down without you knowing it, no matter who you are and no matter what you believe.
		End of story.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Unless you believe in God.
unidentified		No.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		And you don't want to be with a robot.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You would not know the robot was influencing you.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		But would you know it's a robot?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		You've got to stop.
		I am not talking about dating robots.
		I am saying the food you buy at the gas station, you wouldn't realize that the AI, the third muffin from the back, it put there, and it's got an additional dosage.
		It's got double the sodium benzoate in it.
		And you had no idea.
		But the AI knows and can predict your behavior.
		Right now, Facebook, and this has been true for, I think, like 10 years, Facebook knows when you have to take a dump.
		Facebook...
		Not the AI. Before AI was popular, Facebook's machine learning algorithms could predict that a human was going to go to the bathroom because they have data on a billion people and they can see the movements on their GPS and on their phone, the time of day, and they correlated all that data to create a probabilistic prediction machine that could say there is a 73% chance Shane will get up and go buy a cheeseburger right now from Five Guys.
		Because of the moves you made that you yourself didn't even know you wanted the burger.
		You could be like, I'm not even hungry.
		Why would I buy a burger?
		And then the AI is just like, in three hours, you're going to do it.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		And this is what people like Peter Thiel has been developing for years, using predictive policing.
		They're already doing that.
		That's what they're doing with AI Lavender.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be something like Final Destination.
		You are going to be the remaining few people who believe in God and reject the AI, boyfriends and girlfriends and video games and drugs and whatever.
		And the AI is never going to bother you.
		And everything's going to look perfect.
		And you're going to say, ah, those crazy people with their robot wives, that's not for me, though.
		And then you're going to be driving, and a mailman is going to get an alert on his phone where it says he has to pick up a return to sender.
		You know, the house he just delivered to, he turns around, and as he does, a guy gets a ping on his phone to go pick up a dog for a dog walker.
		The mailman then turns.
		They both bump into each other.
		The phone goes flying in the air right as another car is driving.
		The car, the phone, smacks the windshield, shattering it.
		The car swerves right after driving to church, and bang!
		Your car explodes.
		It's going to be stuff like that, and no one's going to blame the AI. They're going to say, freak accident, car crash.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, or they just launch a missile at you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's too overt.
		That's too determined.
		It doesn't need to be that way.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I think it's going to get there.
		I really do.
		If you look at AI lavender, that's what they're doing.
unidentified		Do you remember Nikola Tesla's most incredible demonstration?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Which one?
unidentified		They were going to take down a building, and he said, I'll do it.
		He walks into this building, the box, and he sets it there.
		Now, he had miscalculated a little bit.
		It took, like, hours.
		But the thing was emitting a frequency, the resonant frequency of the Of the blocks that were used to build the building.
		One moment, they all just crumbled and broke.
		Everything has a resonant frequency.
		Pick any object in the world.
		If you hit it with the right kind of waves, and these could be electromagnetic or sound, that thing is going to Be anything from controllable to completely destroyed.
		And it's invisible.
		It makes no sense.
		You can't hear.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It's like the stuff they use in crowds right now.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That can make your blood boil.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Are you talking about active denial systems?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		The frequencies they hit people with.
unidentified		The microwave weapon.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The microwave weapon excites the water molecules in your skin and makes you feel like you're on fire.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But are you familiar with ultra-low frequency generators?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So these are amazing weapons.
		I'd imagine they still use them, but maybe they're just too cumbersome.
		But these emit extremely low frequency sound waves, which cause people to feel nauseated and sick.
		And depending on the...
		The secret to all of this is energy output.
		You're not just going to make a really low noise and someone's going to take a crap in their pants or something.
		But if you have a massive machine with a ridiculously large power output doing a massive low frequency pulse, people start throwing up.
		There's theories that ghost phenomenon is actually the result of underground ultra-low frequencies from tectonic shift or something to that effect.
		And so the reason why people are like, this house is haunted, it's like, I'm not saying this is true, but these are just hypotheses from people.
		It's actually possible that there's just underground pressure shifts or tectonic movement that will create very low, very powerful pulses of vibration.
		And so this hits your body in a weird way and it makes you feel nauseated.
		It can simulate the feeling of presence.
		You feel like someone's watching you.
		They've done experiments on all sorts of stuff like this with military applications.
		But my understanding is, at least from the mainstream, they've tried it with success, but it's impractical.
		It always comes down to one simple thing, guys, is that 5.56 rounds and 9mm are very light and easy to carry.
		So when all of these guys and scientists, it feels nodding along.
		This is true, though.
		The reason why they use 5.56 and 9mm is it's light, and you can have lots of it.
		So ultimately, when it comes to war, they're like, yeah, we made this crazy directed energy weapon.
		We've got a battleship with an infrared laser that can shoot, but it takes so much energy, a single bullet is better.
		So ultimately, what ends up happening is they built something.
		You familiar with the laser-induced plasma channel?
		I'm a big fan of this, but it's just too impractical.
		So this was Picatinny Air Force Base.
		They created what was called the lightning gun, the laser-induced plasma channel.
		None of this is conspiracy.
		It's all mundane and abandoned tech.
		The idea was, how can we utilize electrical blasts, like lightning, and a target?
		You ever play Command& Conquer, Red Alert?
		I think it was Red Alert.
		The Russians had the Tesla coils.
		And when you walk too close to it, it zaps you with a bolt of electricity.
		The little guy gets fried.
		The issue is, if you take a giant electrode and supercharge it, the electricity will jump over the path of least resistance.
		So, straight to the ground.
		But I'm here, and I want to hit the guy over there.
		What do we do?
		Using an infrared laser.
		They would...
		Superheat ionized the air, creating an easier path for electricity to travel through.
		Exactly.
		So the electricity could more easily move through a plasma channel than the ambient air, which is cold.
		And so what they would do is, they would, for one millisecond, flash an infrared pulse, immediately followed by a supercharge of the electrode, which would basically shoot lightning in that direction.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Which required an insane amount of energy, and ultimately they're like, There's no reason to attach this to vehicles and drive it around because we don't have the power for it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In the end, they were like, this little tiny bit of chemical energy in a barrel and focused in one direction is substantially easier to carry than these crazy weapons.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Guns work.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Guns.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In war, it is cheaper to have a bunch of guys with guns than it is to create space weapons.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There's also like, I mean, not that I'm like some kind of like super combat guy or whatever, but like...
		Bullets are used for more than just killing the enemy.
		If you don't want anyone to go in that area, or you just want to keep their heads down, you get a bunch of people to shoot at them.
		They'll keep their heads down, and then your guys can maneuver and stuff and move.
		It's more like a football.
		If you've got a direct energy weapon, you can shoot the wall and blow the wall up, but that's not...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Directed energy weapons are not going to take a wall down.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		We wouldn't blow a hole through a wall?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		With lasers?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, a laser could maybe start melting over a long period of time, but you need kinetic energy with mass to take a wall down.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, so then, you know, that...
unidentified		Orr's hammer's not as cool in real life.
		Right?
		It's just not.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The point is...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Real quick, I just want to add to what you're saying.
		This is why we fought for 20 years in Afghanistan, and then after leaving, we lost.
		It's because a bunch of goat herders in caves with AKs is more effective than the entire ridiculous technological infrastructure of the U.S. empire.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And it's also the reason why it's super important.
		For there never to be any kind of outlawing of semi-automatic rifles in the United States.
		Semi-automatic rifles in the hands of average people can deter even the most powerful force on Earth because it deterred the United States.
		It's not going to win every gunfight.
		It's not saying if you've got a rifle, you're going to win all the gunfights.
		But it deters the government from being tyrannical.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Simply put, drones can't occupy street corners.
		Let's jump to this story, though, and get back to reality.
		From The Atlantic, this story is going massively viral, and I am here for it.
		Wait, who is posting those unflattering J.D. Vance memes?
		The online right is trolling one of its own by Ali Breland.
		I saw this story, and for those that don't know, there have been a spattering of images of J.D. Vance as, you name it, one of my favorite.
		Let me show you an image real quick.
		So for those that have no idea what's going on...
unidentified		Which one are you gonna pick, Tim?
unidentified		There's like a hundred of them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I got it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I tweeted it already, so it's really easy for me to just pull it up.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		You've become my sleep demons.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, ladies and gentlemen, I scar you with this.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Oh, goodness.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, people have just been taking J.D. Vance's picture and then photoshopping it in ridiculous ways to make him look weird.
		And I saw this one and I just posted it because I thought it was funny.
		And you can see L saying, Tim, go to bed.
		Indeed, I posted at midnight.
		So here's the funny thing.
		The right and the left are all posting these J.D. Vance memes.
		Let me see if I can find this one.
		Because one of my favorite memes was J.D. Vance as Diglett.
		Did you see that one?
		And then someone made J.D. Vance as Doug Trio.
unidentified		This is going to win him the next election.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I forgot what he actually looks like.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		I mean, well, the thing is, the meme magic, just like Serge said, like, a big part of the reason why Donald Trump won in 2016 is because of the effect of the memes and all of the online stuff.
		And they've made J.D. Vance a household name.
		J.D. Vance, who may not have been a household name prior to this, right?
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I'm just making sure there's nothing vulgar or graphic, because X is untrustworthy.
		So maybe I should, well, I'll just pull this up, because why not?
		It looks fine.
		Here's J.D. Vance's George Floyd.
		Here's J.D. Vance's Willem Dafoe in Spider-Man.
		Here's a minion J.D. Vance.
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's J.D. Bernie.
		I am once again asking for more J.D. Vance memes.
		Here they just gave him long hair.
		It's just...
		Okay, so anyway...
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		My favorite one is the J.D. Vance as the Unabomber.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That one's great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's not stopping.
		And they're all hilarious.
		And I saw this story from The Atlantic and everyone was ragging on this woman, Ali Brayland, because she's like, the online right is trolling one of its own.
		And I thought to myself, guys, is the whole past 15 years of culture war because women were in media and women don't get men?
		So like...
		We are ribbing on J.D. Vance because it's funny.
		And even he posted himself as, what's his face?
		Leonardo DiCaprio pointing at the TV screen.
		And then someone responded with the same exact image, but he was fatter.
		And it's all funny!
		It's all funny.
		I saw this as written by a woman, and I'm like, could it be that women genuinely don't understand guys ribbing on each other?
		And so they've misunderstood online, like, what guys do as harassment.
		And that's it?
		So they're like, why is everyone being so mean?
		Let's ban them.
		And it's just like two dudes ripping on each other.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		And everyone's laughing on this side.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There was one famous moment.
		I can't remember who it was.
		They called their friend on X gay.
		And they said something like, I didn't know you were gay, lol.
		And it was their roommate.
		I can't remember who it was.
		They were on the show.
		And then Twitter banned them.
		And they were like, I was making a joke to my roommate.
		We're friends!
		Like, nope!
		I think it's a bunch of women being like, oh, that's so mean.
		Like, why are they doing it?
unidentified		Have you seen the meme that perfectly illustrates what you're talking about?
		On top, it has a girl asking her girlfriend...
		Do I look fat?
		And of course, it's like, oh no, babe, you're beautiful.
		And then on the bottom, the guy's like, do I look fat?
		And his friend's like, bro, I got five fat friends and you're four of them.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Seriously.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, everybody knows that dudes that actually get along, rib each other, that's just a normal part of male interaction and stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We were filming today, and I'm spoiling the Boonies vlog, but Special Mike did a really good trick, and it took him, like, Two hours to land.
		For those that are wondering, he ollied onto the two-foot ramp from flat, from the deck, 50-50, and then frontside shove it to the ground.
		If you don't know what that means, don't worry about it.
		It was difficult.
		He fell many times.
		And when he finally landed, we're all cheering.
		And my one friend goes, beat his ass!
		And then everyone started laughing.
		Like, he landed the trick!
		Quick, get him!
		And it was just a joke.
		Yeah, it was a joke.
		And everyone started laughing, and then we high-fived him.
		But imagine, like, We talk about this with YouTube and social media all the time.
		Context does not matter.
		Jokes are not allowed.
		It's like a bunch of hall monitor women not understanding dudes like, you know, towel whipping each other and then laughing about it.
		They're like, they're being bullied.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's just the infinite face of that sourpuss woman just going.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And the caption underneath says, that's not funny.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So anyway, into the political on this one.
		Yeah, this is going to meme J.D. Vance in 2028. Into the presidency.
		This article, and this is not the only one.
		There's a bunch of articles where they're basically like, why is the right making fun of J.D. Vance?
		Did they ever look at the Trump memes?
		There's a bunch of Trump memes that are goofing on him, and everyone loves it and loves him.
		The J.D. Vance memes are not meant to disparage.
		It's just funny, but it's making J.D. Vance a household name.
unidentified		What's it doing subconsciously?
unidentified		What is this teaching people's brains to do when they see J.D. Vance's face?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Laugh.
unidentified		Smile.
		Laugh.
		Have a good time.
		This is genius.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're associating J.D. Vance with laughter.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Positive feelings.
		Positive emotions.
		Yeah, that's really...
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		So it's a psyop.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, the funny thing is I think the left did start it.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm pretty sure.
		I don't know.
		Yeah, everyone's nodding along.
		We'll just assume it's true.
unidentified		But the left can't meme.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, but like, and when they do, we're not mad about it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're like, oh, this is hilarious.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I feel like the first ones I saw were him being fat, shared by leftists, making fun of him looking fat, right?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		And then we were just like, that's hilarious.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was funny.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Make him fatter.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're taking that.
unidentified		It's ours now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's one they made of me where I went on Fox News.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they keep making me, yeah, you know what I'm talking about.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That was great, dude.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I keep getting, every time they repost it, I'm slightly fatter.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		People believe it, though.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And people are like, you look at the guy from Duck Dynasty, and it's me, and then it says something like, Tim can't get laid, or like, and it's like, I'm on Fox News.
		And it's funny!
		And every time they repost it, I'm fatter and redder.
		And remember the one with Charlie Kirk where they made his face smaller?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They don't understand that dudes ripping on each other is fun and funny, but to leftists, it's meant to hurt your feelings.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		JD's going to be on Kill Tony next.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		He just secured his spot on Kill Tony.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did he really?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that true?
unidentified		I don't know.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I'm just saying, because he didn't seem like someone who would be on Kill Tony.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Trump did to me, but after this...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's a really funny wojack of me where my head is massive and the beanie is really small and on top and there's strings coming down and I'm standing in a hot air balloon of my own head.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, I reposted it.
unidentified		I was like, that's pretty good.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		You should be framed in this room.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		I think leftists, and it's largely liberal millennial women who are leading the Democrat charge, they think that's offensive to you.
		When they post a picture of a fat JD Vance with like a beet red face and his eyes are crossed.
		They think, like, ha ha, he's gonna get real mad at this one, and then he sees it and goes...
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		You also have to think, though, like, yeah, this lady wrote this, but a team of editors...
		This went through an office, a newsroom at the Atlantic.
		I've written for them.
		It's a lot of people who all have their hands in one story every time.
		So everyone agreed with this and said yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They say the memes first appeared in October when a user on X posted an image of Vance captioned, For every 100 likes, I will turn J.D. Vance into a progressively apple-cheeked baby.
		That's what they did with Charlie Kirk's face.
		They were like, for every 100 likes, I'm going to make his face a little bit smaller.
		And then it kept getting smaller and smaller.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But the thing is, Ben, you made a great point.
		It associates seeing his face with positive emotions.
		It associates his face with laughing, with having a good time.
		That's really, really a great point you made.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It's like the evolution of his face being viral.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Because remember, it went viral the first time with the look he made during the debate.
unidentified		I forgot about that meme, Shane.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I forgot about that one.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Now he's everybody on the planet.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look at this.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I've used that meme.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Deseret says, Vice President J.D. Vance becomes Internet's meme darling.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		From babyface renditions to classic pop culture parodies, the Vice President is a hit on the Internet.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And remember, who wrote this?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is Deseret.
		I think they're a Canadian outlet.
		Am I wrong?
unidentified		Utah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Utah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wow, it was way off.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You know, but it bears saying, too, also, like, people...
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		People vote with their emotions.
unidentified		Wait, wait.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		For those that are just listening, we're laughing at a picture of J.D. Vance's George Washington.
		What else?
		John Adams.
		J.D. Jefferson.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That's incredible.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		J.D. Madison.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		J.D. Monroe.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, this is not Jerome Powell.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that it?
		They have him as, what is it, J.D. Vance from Andy Griffith.
		Is that it?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Man, and they're just putting his face on everything.
		I gotta be honest, though.
		I can't find the Diglett one.
		Diglett?
		Yeah, you guys know what Diglett is?
		How do I find that?
unidentified		Ask Grok.
unidentified		Grok will find it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like one of the best memes.
		I know, I tried searching on X to find it.
		I couldn't get it.
unidentified		Anything I want to find on X, I just ask Grok.
		I don't even look at it.
		I don't even use the search function.
		Really?
		I'm just like, Grok, find me this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I said, find me a post of JD Vance looking like Diglett.
unidentified		Thank you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because then someone made Doug Trio, and it's super hilarious.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's just writing a bunch of things out.
unidentified		Oh, is it?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I asked for that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's just explaining to me the meme.
unidentified		Okay, so you might have to say something like, find me the post on X of the JD Vance meme where he looks like Diglett.
unidentified		So, like, that's basically your learning curve when it comes to AI. Like, you type in something and it's like, oh, I need to ask it this way.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I will say the funny thing is if you search JD Vance on X, you only get memes.
		There's no picture of him, like, just normal doing something.
		I'll just scroll through it.
		I'm bound to find it because everyone keeps...
unidentified		It's so funny.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		J.D. Vance has the son from the Teletubbies and the Teletubbies at the same time.
		I do like the rosy-cheeked as Donald Trump.
		Rosy-cheeked as Modok.
		As Bill Murray in Groundhog Day.
		Man, this is so good.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		When I saw him as the Matrix, I knew it wasn't going to end.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		When you saw the...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		As Little Debbie.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		As Neo.
		Oh, Little Debbie, yeah, I see that.
		That's good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I do like it when people just retake existing ones and make them fatter.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It is good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I can't find it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There are some funny ones, though.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		What a time to be alive.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		J.D. Vance Diglett.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Come 2028, if this momentum...
		As Chicken McNuggets...
		If this keeps going...
		These are ridiculous.
		He's going to meme himself into the presidency.
		Or he's going to be memed.
		I'm just scrolling through and me and Serge are laughing trying to look for these memes.
		As Thanos.
unidentified		There's so many!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is crazy, right?
		I can't show this on screen because there's probably some weird vulgar nonsense in it.
		I see them everywhere I go.
		J.D. Vance.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Did you see this post was fact-checked by true McPatriots with a bald JD Vance?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is there just like one master photo of all of the memes?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's just everywhere.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there are threads that have...
unidentified		I'm willing to bet one of your listeners right now is on Claude, Sonnet, or GPT. Writing a code or asking it to go find every J.D. Vance meme and put it into, like, an aggregated picture.
unidentified		One of your fans is doing that right now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm telling Grok to do it.
unidentified		Find me the links of every...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright, alright.
		Let's talk about the news, though.
		We do have this story here from CBS. Another plane crash.
		CBS says five people injured in a plane crash in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, officials say.
		This is reported from today.
		Is this the same story as the one that happened, like, yesterday?
		Or is it another one?
		They say five people were injured after a small plane crashed in the parking lot of a retirement community.
		Right, okay, so this was the one yesterday.
		Authorities said Monday that five people on board were taken to Lancaster General Hospital.
		Spokesperson said three of the patients were transferred from Health Network's burn center.
		Two other were treated.
		Little said no one on the ground was hurt.
		In a statement, Brethren Village said, unfortunately, no residents were injured.
		Says fortunately, sorry, no residents were injured and no damage was reported.
		However, 12 vehicles were damaged.
		Air traffic control audio captured.
		The pilot reporting the aircraft has an open door.
		We need to return for a landing.
		Now, we were talking about this.
		I was talking about this with Ben before the show.
		And there's a lot of questions about why we're seeing so many plane crashes.
		Is it DEI? Well, this appears to be like a private flight crashing.
		Why are we hearing so many stories of plane crashes then?
		It was the Delta flight operated by Endeavour that came in hard in Canada and belly flopped and then rolled over.
		And a lot of people said probably DEI because they think the pilot was female or the co-pilot was female who was doing the landing and the male was communicating with air traffic control.
		I don't know for sure.
		I will say this right off the bat.
		I know that many people have warned over the past year that DEI in the airlines is going to result in crashes.
		However, they all seem to have just started around the same time.
		We started getting all of these reports of plane crashes right at the same time.
		Yesterday, my brother was saying, could it just be that we're getting more reports of it?
		We're paying attention now?
		And then he goes, well, actually, if a plane crashed in a parking lot, I think it's national news no matter what happens.
		And it's like, yes, it's all just happening now.
		So how could it be DEI then?
		The liberals and the Democrats, the left, they're all saying it's Trump's fault.
		But Trump didn't fire anybody when these things started happening.
		Trump had just gotten in.
		We started seeing these plane crashes.
		And Elon did not do anything with Doge to the airlines or air traffic control when these were crashing.
		So I don't think there's a strong correlation politically to the plane crashes.
		The question then is, why are so many planes crashing?
		Now, in this instance, the door was open.
		I have no idea.
		Ben and I were talking, and he was explaining about polar shift and solar weather and things like that.
		And you're outright saying that we are in the midst of a polar shift, like the poles are shifting.
		The process has begun.
		Is that fair to say?
unidentified		Yeah, certainly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so then I said, what if planes have started crashing, the wildfires are getting intense, not because of climate change, but because of solar weather, or I'm sorry, space weather, as it were.
		Maybe the instruments are getting messed up, and we're seeing this amplify or something.
		I've got to be honest.
		It seems equally as a stretch to assume the instruments are failing as it is to assume it's DEI or Trump's doing because there's no hard correlations.
		Only the question, why did all of a sudden we start seeing many different plane crashes in the span of a couple months?
unidentified		You know, I the last time I was on with you, it was a little over a year ago.
		That while I was here, that was when that airplane.
		I had that emergency landing on the highway.
		That was literally while I was here with you last time.
		And I remember back then thinking, man, is this DEI? Is this going to get worse?
		And it immediately clicked into my head that one of the things I had told people was like, look, hey, this magnetic pole shift keeps going in this way.
		Eventually, things are just going to stop working for no good reason.
		Planes might start to...
		Have trouble on takeoff landing or maybe even, God forbid, while they're up at cruising altitude.
		And with it happening so much, it's really...
		The point you were making about there doesn't seem to be any rationale for why DEI would come and bite us in the butts all at once.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In a cluster.
unidentified		In a cluster.
		And it doesn't make sense that...
		It's a political thing because you would have done that before the election.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, if it was Trump's firing related, then we wouldn't have seen any crashes until after the firings happened.
		But in fact, we started seeing crashes before Trump had done anything.
		And so it could be DEI all catching up all at once, I guess.
		But if it was DEI, wouldn't you see a parabolic curve of...
		Little bits and then lots of bits.
		Not just nothing and then within a span of a few months, boom!
		A big cluster of plane crashes.
		I guess, I'm sorry, the point would be it opens the possibility of an external phenomenon to our aircraft and our political system.
		Meaning, weather?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Do you think the pole shift can affect people's mental state?
unidentified		Oh, it certainly is.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		And you think we're in that now?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Where the people at large...
unidentified		I mean, I don't want to completely derail this airplane thing, but they know two main things about what happens to our brains when it's exposed to an excess amount of the kind of energy that you get from the sun.
		First thing that happens is your hippocampus mitochondria don't work quite as efficiently.
		Cognition goes down.
		It's a fun way of saying you get a little dumber.
		At the exact same time, that extra energy is overexciting the locus coeruleus and the dead center in there.
		And that's your reactivity to terror, panic, anxiety, fear.
		And so if it seems like people are all getting dumber while they're becoming more emotionally unstable and more reactive to panic and fear, yes.
		Yes, they are.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now, just for context, because this does matter, we have a super chat from Baron of Grey Matter who says, on average, 1,400 general aviation plane crashes per year.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Air traffic controller here.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, I think that that was one of the things I was going to bring up when there was a pause.
		The fact that we're seeing more attention paid to small aircrafts, like, so this is five people were injured.
		How many, like, how big was the aircraft?
		What size?
		Because there are regularly...
		Accidents of smaller aircraft.
		Smaller aircraft that don't make news beyond the local news.
		Not that I want to minimize death, but if a handful of people die and it's not a major carrier and it's not at a major airport, it honestly is only a local news.
		So there can be, like the Super Chat just said, a thousand or so plane crashes every year, and it just so happens that they're getting more focused now because the news is focused on these types of events, whether they have an intentional bias or not.
		There's all this talk about the FAA, there was the crash, the very public crash at DCA, and that kind of set the wheels in motion.
		Oh, hey, you know, is there a problem with the FAA? Well, there were these cuts.
		And so the narrative is built, and so you see more attention paid.
unidentified		So what I would say is how many different times in the last year have you seen a post on social media playing got an engine on fire in the sky?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, multiple times.
unidentified		And how many times did you see it before the last year?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so...
		Is it really that people just didn't post it?
		I don't believe it.
		Shock content sells.
		If there were videos of planes with engines on fire, people would be posting them on X and Instagram nonstop.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I saw one of those engines on fire videos and comments were like, this is five years old.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		So it seems like people are posting it as it fits right now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		People didn't consider to be like, maybe this video of a plane, maybe crashing, would get a lot of views.
		The lead story on the Daily Mail this morning was of a woman in her seat in Brazil who got asked to move.
		Not kidding.
		Like, the Daily Mail was like, I know what story we'll lead with.
		It's a woman sitting by the window and someone asks her to move because a child is crying.
		And she didn't.
		And I'm like, if people are going to post that, wouldn't they want to post?
		People post all sorts of weird stuff in the sky all the time.
		Weird atmospheric events or rocket ships being, you know, launched and things like that.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Or breaking apart.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		You know, falling back.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, maybe.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe it's as simple as we just didn't post.
unidentified		Some people, they wait a long time to do stuff, okay?
unidentified		Some people wait 30 years after being raped to come and say something, and some people see an airplane in the sky on fire and wait five years to post that on the internet.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I see it's hot right now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, to be fair, like someone's stealing and reposting a video that already exists?
unidentified		Maybe, okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But it is kind of crazy to me that these stories weren't in the common news cycle.
		Like, all of a sudden, people are like, let's share a bunch of videos of plane crashes.
		But come on, like, the Delta plane crashing and flipping over, and the Delta...
unidentified		I've never seen anything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or the plane crashing into the helicopter in D.C. Look, you can tell me that there's 1,400 accidents per year.
		Someone else mentioned that, according to the NTSB, crashes are down.
		Yeah, but I'm pretty sure if at any point in the past 20 years a plane crashed in a helicopter, it'd be national news.
		If at any point a plane crashed in Philadelphia, it's national news.
		When the plane crashed in the Hudson, national news.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		The one in Philadelphia just a few weeks ago.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Into the parking lot.
		That's what I'm saying.
		Those high-level crashes are all happening around the same time.
unidentified		I would like to know what the stats are if we take out single-engine Cessnas, we take out private.
		Like, let's look at the big commercial carriers and let's count those up.
		I would be interested to see what those stats are.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		If I understand correctly, at least in the U.S., the crash, the accident at DCA, that was the first plane crash in the United States, I think, since 2009?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was a big deal.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They said commercial.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, first commercial one.
		The incentive for...
		For airliners to not have a mistake or have a catastrophic crash or failure or whatever is very high, not only because of regulation, which is what people think is the actual driver, but really it's litigation and damage to the brand.
		If you have too many crashes, people are going to be like, I don't want to fly with you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I got you.
		So I just asked our little robot friend.
		On average, there are four to six fatal commercial airline crashes per year worldwide.
		However, the total number of commercial aviation accidents, including non-fatal incidents, varies greatly but remains low, making commercial air travel one of the safest modes of transportation.
		I am going to ask it for clarification because I don't care about fatal crashes.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It feels like they're just amplified fear.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		However, I then said how many commercial crashes in 2025?
		One, two, three, four, five.
		There have been five commercial crashes this year, and I believe...
unidentified		We are...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, so Air Busan was...
		Everyone survived with seven injuries.
		There was a light air service crash with 21 occupants.
		Only one survived.
		So that's one fatal.
		You had the Potomac collision, 67 fatalities.
		The Bering Air Flight Cessna...
		Let's see, what is that?
		Grand Caravan?
		Disappeared over Nome, Alaska.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes, right.
		Yeah, 10 people died.
		And then the Delta Endeavor, 21 injuries.
		How many non-fatal commercial crashes on average?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I imagine that's not very many because it's hard to have fender benders when you're...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		30 to 50. Really?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Commercial airline accidents per year, but that includes runway excursions, hard landings, bird strikes, gear-up landings, and other mishaps.
unidentified		Totally different.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Totally different.
		Okay, how do you...
		I guess fatal accidents is the important metric, and we have, what, I think three of the listed ones are fatal?
unidentified		See, here's the thing, but then the Delta flight that's sitting upside down on the tarmac, nobody died.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's unbelievable.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Unbelievable.
		So yeah, we have one, two, three, four, five, three of which were fatal.
		Commercial airline incidents.
		So if there's four to six per year, in one month, we have had the high-end half the year's total accident so far.
		So again, I think it's fair to say that we, as the average people, are noticing it's a weird thing to have it all happen at once.
		And these happened, so this is important because we have the dates on them.
		To January 28th, 29th, the Potomac River crash was nine days after Trump got in.
		He didn't do anything.
		Those flight routes and that training with the Blackhawk, that was all pre-planned.
		Trump didn't have a week to change that.
		So how did we get three fatal commercial flights in the span of a month, start of this year?
unidentified		And then one flip over.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Which is a serious accident.
unidentified		That's a serious accident.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, man.
		It could be DEI. Seriously, any explanation is welcome to this point.
		You guys, Super Chat, let me know what you think.
		Comments.
		Because DEI doesn't make sense why it all happens in one month.
		Right as Trump gets elected, boom, it all happens.
		It was like a bunch of the DEI hires were hired but not allowed to fly just yet.
		And then the moment Biden was leaving, he clicked a button to activate their jobs.
		It doesn't make sense.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think it's just...
		Coincidence that it's happening.
		Because these...
		This conversation about a crisis of competence has been something that's been ongoing for at least a couple years now, people talking, because we knew that DEI was a thing.
		This isn't a surprise that we're all just finding out about it.
		Maybe it is more common than we thought, or there's been more hiring of people based on DEI criteria than we thought, but it wasn't like this is a surprise.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We've talked about it.
		DEI might actually be the explanation.
		In 2024, there were 16 fatal commercial airline accidents worldwide.
		333 deaths.
		So, we maybe just weren't seeing these reported as much, but they were definitely higher than the average over the past decade.
		So maybe it really is that simple.
unidentified		You know, to be honest, it's obviously gone through my head, is this increased solar impact because we're losing Earth's magnetic field.
		You know, certainly that would drive views to my channel, wouldn't it?
		Gotta be honest.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
unidentified		Like, I've probably had ten of those opportunities where, like, if I wanted to stretch, you know, stretch how I looked at myself in the mirror afterwards, I could have put out a viral video about something like that.
		But, you know, I gotta be honest.
		I feel like when we got to that point...
		It would be even worse than this, like planes falling out of the sky, like people suffering, like entire airplanes suffering acute radiation sickness, every passenger.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		People don't realize the radiation on planes.
unidentified		Yeah, and that's going through the roof right now.
		Eventually it's going to happen.
		There's going to be an incident.
		There's going to be a weak spot in the magnetic field.
		There's going to be a massive cosmic ray burst or something.
		Something that happens every day but isn't a big deal.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then everyone's going to get superpowers on the plane when the cosmic radiation hits the bottom.
unidentified		Literally everyone's going to start throwing up on the plane.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they're going to call it a mysterious illness and they're not going to check for radiation or anything like that?
unidentified		No, I'm sure they're going to all just...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Cover it up.
unidentified		Cover it up or say that it was...
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Food poisoning.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're going to jump to this next story.
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unidentified		Happy birthday.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yesterday was my birthday.
		I'm 39 years old, and it's been a tremendous couple of months.
		What with Trump's presidency, the gutting of the bureaucratic state, the firing of federal workers, the getting married, having a kid.
		It's been, this 2025 is the best year ever.
		Best year of my life, at least.
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		So if you want to get a gift, those are the things you can do for my birthday.
		Thank you very much.
		Now, in all seriousness, this story is pretty brutal.
		From the post-millennial breaking, Infowars reporter Jamie White brutally murdered in his apartment on Sunday night.
		White was pronounced dead in the hospital.
		The investigation remains ongoing, and authorities have yet to release further details.
		Now, I believe that Infowars is, Alex, they're basically saying this has more to do with the lax on crime policies of Democrats, not that it's anything...
		Related to any kind of investigation or, you know, nefarious or malicious deeds, we don't know.
		But I gotta say, based on it being InfoWars, the first place my mind goes to is, what was this guy investigating?
		Because, I'm sorry, I mean no disrespect to Alex, but I don't think he pays the kind of money that would result in a strong-armed robbery and some burglary in someone's home of a reporter to end their life.
		You know, like journalists tend not to be the targets of people looking for money.
		Maybe you want to go to somebody who's rich in a rich neighborhood.
unidentified		Somebody who doesn't have an apartment?
unidentified		Like he was killed in his apartment?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, and of course, sometimes it's as simple as drugs were involved and people fought over them and there was a debt.
		Who knows?
		But I don't know, man.
		I don't know.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I've been chased by zombies in Austin on 6th Street.
		So you do know we've been there.
		Like, there's some pretty gnarly spots in Austin where crime is totally allowed.
		Really bad addicts are all over the place.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They say he was working late at the Infowars studio Sunday night.
		He was found outside his home just a few miles from the studio.
		And he was pronounced dead at the hospital.
		So maybe someone just ran up to him and attacked him.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's...
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There was another story recently, but this is not even unique for me to say, where a guy walked up to him and just stabbed her in the back with a knife.
		I think it was in like D.C. or something.
		There's so many stories like that all over the place that maybe that's just it.
		Maybe he was just a victim of a random attack.
		I don't know.
		Coincidence is...
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It's hard knowing he's a journalist from Infowars, of course, but I know people who...
		I knew someone who was attacked like that in a supermarket.
		A random person just walked to the supermarket and just had a...
		Victim in mind, anyone with a knife and took him out and made no sense, right?
		They didn't know him, nothing.
		It's just that guy was bloodthirsty that day and crazy.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Jeez.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's horrible.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's really, really, really hard to be, you know, to hear these kind of stories and give any kind of advice because...
		Sure, when you're in, like, you can hear things like you want to be aware when you're in transitional spaces, right?
		When you get out of your car, when you're getting in your car, those are the kind of places where people attack you.
		When you're walking out of work, walking into work, those are the kind of places where attacks happen.
		But it's really hard to constantly be aware, like your friend that you're talking about, just walking through the supermarket, you know, just randomly.
		That kind of stuff can happen, and it's, and again...
		I watch a lot of...
		A lot of attacks and stuff like that on YouTube.
		That's interesting to me to see the way that people actually do attack.
		It's a good idea to look people in the eyes when you're walking around because if you make eye contact with people, they tend to decide to find someone else because it's not about looking like you're tough.
		It's not about looking like you're some kind of badass.
		All you have to do is look like you're not an easy target.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So we do have some updates.
		Refresh the page.
		They say, Info was reported that Jamie White was found unresponsive late Sunday and when authorities are investigating as a murder, he was pronounced dead after being taken to the local hospital.
		Austin Police Department officers responded to a high-priority emergency call at approximately 11.57 p.m.
		Officers arrived two minutes later and found White with obvious signs of trauma.
		The investigation is ongoing and authorities have not confirmed the nature of White's injuries or released information about potential suspects.
		This marks Austin's eighth homicide this year.
		Ratliff said this is pretty early on in the investigation and the homicide unit will be releasing more information as they're able.
		That's the APD Public Information Officer.
		They're going to say a statement from Infowars.
		Jamie's tragic death will not be in vain, and those responsible for the senseless violence will be brought to justice.
		Jones blamed Soros, Austin, Texas DA, Jose Garza, partially for the murder.
		White was working late Sunday night.
		He was found just a few outside his home.
		He was found at his home.
		a few miles from the studio.
		And we have this other quote.
		When you see the Soros DAs in control of over 800 jurisdictions protecting serious narcotic and human trafficking gangs, and you see different feds in ICE calling in warnings for most violent gangs in the world that there are ICE raids coming, Panbondi saying that they're preparing to indict some of these people, that there are so many communist traitors in the government that they're doing polygraphs.
		Jones said in a show, this is a crisis.
		Defunding the police, all of this has been to destabilize society.
		So Jones went on to say, despite Austin being a war zone at night in many areas, the police were there in two minutes and got in the hospital in just 15 to 20.
		He was announced dead there.
		That's service.
		You can't do your job when you don't have enough people.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Remember that story?
unidentified		I'm going to get myself in trouble.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, then maybe save it for the uncensored portion if it's beyond the pale or too spicy.
unidentified		Okay.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Remember that story last year?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		They found like 10 bodies in the lake in Austin.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, and there's a serial killer.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That was a rumor.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if they really believed it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		People keep falling off the bridge.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, falling off.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right, yeah, we talked about that.
		And they keep saying, like, no, no, there's something going on.
		But wasn't it, like, there's someone who was drugged and then escaped?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I think that was one of the stories, yeah.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A guy was drugged at a bar, brought to the bridge, but then, like, fought off the dude and then ran off.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Austin's wild.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, it's dangerous.
		You know, the fact that there are DAs that don't actually put people that are dangerous away because of things like restorative justice, which are phrases that you hear on the left all the time, which are just ridiculous concepts, you know, whole cloth idiocy. which are just ridiculous concepts, you know, whole cloth idiocy.
		You have to take people that are dangerous off the streets.
		Yeah, that is that is job number one.
		for it.
		Any kind of, you know, reasonable law enforcement agency.
		And if you're not going to take them off the streets, then you have to empower citizens to defend themselves because something must deter criminals.
		And if you do not put them away and they are not afraid of the people that they are victimizing, then there is no deterrence and they are just going to keep committing crimes and they're going to keep victimizing.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I think it's compassionate to release murderers.
unidentified		You held your straight face.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I'm from New York.
		That's what they did.
		Yeah, that's what they did in New York during COVID. Just release them all.
		And that's where we're at now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Man, I got to wonder, though, is this all turning around?
		I mean, with Trump in office, it's been a month.
		It's been a month and a half.
		Trump is making big moves against bureaucratic and deep state infrastructure.
		After this, we're already seeing the pickup in law enforcement with Cash and Pam Bondi.
		I know everyone's upset over the Epstein files.
		I'd like to see them too.
		But Cash, he got two guys who were selling secrets in the army or whatever.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That was great.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Actually, I think it was three, wasn't it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was three.
		The work has begun.
		The work has begun.
		So we're going to need to see some top-level infrastructure in law enforcement that is going to direct local law enforcement.
		And if...
		And I'll tell you this.
		If these Democrat jurisdictions don't enforce the law, Trump should invoke the Insurrection Act and go secure these areas.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		You know, there was a post on X by a Democrat strategist or whatever, and she was complaining about the attacks on or the vandalism, basically, of Tesla dealerships.
		She's like, oh, this is going to make it easier for them to institute the Insurrection Act and blah, blah, blah.
		While I don't think that vandalism of Tesla properties is actually, you know, rises to the level of justification for the Insurrection Act, you know, high levels of crime, not that I... And I think crime is going down, even though you are seeing some fairly high-profile crimes like this.
		If crime does were to spike again, I think that you might see a more...
		A more vigorous reaction from the current DOJ. I think things are getting better.
unidentified		But things have been flow in a battle like this.
		This is...
		I don't know if you guys are going to agree with me, but I think this is an economic, cultural, political, and spiritual, ethical, moral war.
		going on among society right now.
		Absolutely.
		There are some people who are some pretty good thinkers, some folks I respect a lot.
		I don't know if they'd want me mentioning their names or whatever, but they believe that the next civil war has begun, and we're just in the early stages of it, and nobody really realizes just how bad it's going to be.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Tim didn't say it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you can't drink.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ray Dalio said it took her also a couple weeks ago.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it's been spoken of quite a bit.
		I didn't come up with the idea, and I'm not the only one who talks about the idea.
		Anybody with eyes to see could see that we are on this path.
		Now, it doesn't mean that it ends in civil war.
		Civil strife periods are the precursor to civil war.
		Bleeding Kansas, of course, was the American Civil War the precursor.
		But the civil rights era and the protests and the rioting was a civil strife period that did not become a civil war.
		I think we are so massively entrenched with the Democrat cult machine, there's no way to break it.
		You have people who know they're wrong and don't care they're wrong, they hate.
		They are fueled by nothing but cult, social adherence, and hatred.
		So, you're not going to tell me that when you're talking to someone...
		Here, I'll give you an example.
		There's a viral video where a guy is wearing an American flag on a beanie.
		It's a black beanie, it's an American flag on it, and he's asking people questions.
		And a woman says he's clearly an antagonist, far right, trying to disrupt.
		And he's like, why?
		And she's like, because you're wearing an American flag.
		And he's like, this is just the hat that I got from REI. I don't know.
		I'll take it off.
		She's like, no, you know what you're doing.
		So long as those kinds of people exist.
		And they are fervent and they are violent.
		And they can be weaponized by more intelligent factions of the far left, Antifa types.
		This is going to escalate.
		Now you have that Ziz cult.
		Far leftists, transgender people, they murdered a cop.
		It was a CBP agent, I believe.
		It was CBP. Murdered him because he pulled him over.
		Now they're on the run, faking their death, who knows what.
		And this is just, if it keeps escalating, then you end up in civil war.
		And the way things are going, the threats against Donald Trump, the threats against Elon Musk, what are they doing now?
		They're setting fires at Tesla stations.
		They're setting Tesla cars on fire.
		They're shooting up Tesla dealerships.
		Threatening Elon's life.
		Now we got a DDoS attack, a cyber attack of some sort on X. It's not cooling down.
		It's only escalating.
		On TikTok, these people are posting incessantly saying things like, you should go do it and stuff like that.
		There's a viral video where a guy points out, one woman says something to the effect of like, y'all know you need to go and do it or whatever.
		And it's vague.
		But in the comments, she makes reference to...
		Getting rid of the king and the president, or I'm sorry, she made a reference to John Wilkes Booth.
		So everybody knew what she was saying.
		Another one responded saying that it'll be her.
		Outright saying, it'll be me and you'll know it.
		These people are making these videos.
		It is mass formation psychosis where they want clicks and they want views.
		So they are going to just pile on and say, do it, do it, do it, do it, until a handful of crazy people start doing crazy things.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I'm noticing the mental illness in my old, like my ex-friends.
		Getting crazier than it was when they were mad at me during how I was during COVID. Like, the way I'm, like, if I make fun of Zelensky, it's like I'm making fun of their dad or mom.
		And they're sending me, like, deranged messages.
		We had someone threatening the family saying they know where my kids are.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Over Zelensky?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Over, like, politics.
		And it's insane.
		And that's just my personal life.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But just looking at the reaction to Zelensky, who is this guy?
		Why do you care about him?
		You don't know who he is.
		You've never heard of him before.
		The war in Ukraine has been three years, and in three years you have attached your soul to this man.
		You are psychotic.
		These people have lost their minds, and they're dangerous.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		They see him as he's the opposing force to Trump, one of the many that they see on their side.
unidentified		You know, I see these things as sort of like the macrocosm of the small-scale stuff that's actually going to cause it.
		They have created so much strife and division in so many homes.
		And among so many friends.
		And among...
		I mean...
		They've set friends against each other.
		They've sent brothers against sisters.
		Fathers against sons.
		Husbands against wives.
		And all at the same time doing a very good job convincing...
		An enormous portion of the population that there is nothing worse in the world than a straight white man.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But, you know, it's – this phenomenon that we're seeing is a component of deep state intelligence agents or whatever trying to struggle to maintain power, zealots and far leftists.
		The biggest concern I have is not the deep state.
		Trump's routing them.
		It's not Antifa.
		These people are stupid.
		It is the random woman screaming the American flag is white supremacy without thought or knowledge or knowing what's going on.
		It is the zealous mess.
		The largest lump of the far-left derangement is the cult mess.
		They don't read the news.
		They have no idea what they're talking about.
		They're insistent.
		They do.
		And they want destructive things.
		I'll give you a really good example, and I'm going to drag a lot on purpose.
		A lot is a communist.
		He's shocking.
		So Elad, he's a freelance reporter for us.
		He came on the show and said, Bezos makes too much money and uses loopholes to avoid paying taxes.
		And I'm like, okay, that's a leftist talking point and it's fundamentally and factually false.
		Now, I'm not trying to drag Elad for no reason.
		The point is, no matter how many times we told Elad he did not understand corporate law or tax law, he was arguing with us fervently and adamantly that Jeff Bezos pay taxes on money that doesn't exist.
		No matter how many times you try to explain, Bezos does not have that cash.
		It is imaginary equity and it is imaginary value based on the equity in a company.
		He said, so what?
		He should pay taxes.
		There's no explaining to him.
		That's impossible and it makes no sense.
		It's like someone saying, we should scoop up the sky and throw it in the ocean.
		And you're like, okay, that's just nonsense.
		You said nothing.
		And they get mad at you and they say, we have to do it.
		Then you see the people out in the streets of Antifa and they're screaming, We've got to tear down the sky.
		And you're like, it's nothing.
		It's water particles and refraction.
		What are you talking about?
		And they're like, you're a fascist because you won't do it.
		And they burn buildings down.
		There's no convincing a person who is deranged and can't comprehend reality.
		You can try.
		You can be nice.
		You can vote.
		But eventually, they're going to say...
		Elon Musk, whose dealerships are being burned down, or being shot up, is doing this to make money.
		Tesla's stock is down some 30% in a month.
		He's doing it to steal your money and make money.
		What?
		His stock is going down.
		His net worth is declining.
		And then they're going to say he should pay taxes on it.
		They have no idea what they're talking about.
		None of that makes sense.
		And these people are...
		It's derangement.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		They were self-immolating last year and cheering Luigi Mangione.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		So what's the next step, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, now they're all on social media advocating for assassination.
		Not all of them, but many people are outright calling for violence.
		You had that video of Adam Conover's podcast where a woman said that she polled people who attended the Women's March and 30% said they believed the use of violence was justified to stop Donald Trump or something in that effect.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and they saw January 6th.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		You know, worse than 9-11, worse than D-Day.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		How long until they start attacking just random Tesla owners?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So they're...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They already are.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They're vandalizing...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So they're going to attack themselves?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They already are.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There's actual people or they're vandalizing?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're vandalizing random Tesla vehicles.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm talking about...
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		What about when they start attacking the people that own Tesla?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's bound to happen.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You know what I mean?
		It's bound to happen.
		Now, granted, I think that it's still...
		That's a little far away because now they're only vandalizing.
		They haven't started...
		You know, they're not actually attacking people.
unidentified		How many snowflakes do you know personally?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Not many.
unidentified		I can tell you that they got all the talk and all the balls in the world until another living creature is staring them in the face.
		If there's nobody there, they'll spray paint, they'll key, they'll cut, they'll do whatever.
		The moment even the tiniest ray of light shines onto their darkness, they shrivel so fast.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I disagree.
		I have been at way too many events with far leftists where single individual actors have committed acts of violence against people.
		Certainly there are the people you're referring to, but the ones that are committing violence, they're going to commit violence.
		It's actually the inverse, to be honest.
		So the strategy used by leftists is get as many regular people as possible to create a mass of bodies, and then one person starts the violence.
		To ignite the conflict.
		So it's usually the individual actors.
unidentified		And...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, actually, I'm agreeing largely to say, but I disagree that if they're by themselves, they won't do it.
		They certainly do.
		They and, you know, they throw bricks by themselves.
		They use the masses to cover their actions when they engage in violence.
		But certainly we have seen numerous instances where individual far leftists have started fights or got into fights or small groups even.
unidentified		Sure, sure.
		I'm just saying that those kind of people really aren't the same kind of people who are going to go and, like, sneak up and spray paint.
		Like, part of, like, those people, like, they want the conflict.
		It's like they want someone to be filming it.
		It's like they, you know what I mean?
		Like, they, those are two different.
		People.
		You know, the one who sneaks up and slashes at Tesla's tires is not the same one screaming at the top of their lungs in a big protest starting the violence.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, like, at big protests, the person who slashes the tire quietly is the person who starts the violence.
unidentified		You think so?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's their strategy.
		They call it green, yellow, and red.
		And so the green zone is the large mass of people who are stupid and have no idea what's going on.
		The yellow are the direct action people who are leading and organizing the protests and directing the masses.
		And the red actors are those who throw bricks at me.
unidentified		In these big organized protests, I actually do think you're right.
		I was thinking more of long lines of like, you walk to your parked car after you're at the bar and some pink-haired snowflake is trying to key your car.
		That's not the dude who's going to swing on you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, the pink-haired woman, maybe not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A guy would.
unidentified		Well, I mean, I said pink-haired guy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, like, no, that guy will.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's what happened to, I forget the guy's name that got shot in...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
		Aaron Danielson in Portland?
		Yeah, one guy with a BLM tattoo walked up and just went bam, bam in his chest.
unidentified		So that, yes, but what I'm saying is that's a different guy than the one who's like sneaking around and trying to like...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't think so.
		So the direct action groups...
		These are the violent people who show up and fight the Proud Boys.
		If you watch the Portland videos, they wear masks, they go off, they get into street fights.
		They're the same people who plan the violence and the same people who go out at night and do sabotage, chaining doors, putting superglue in locks and things like that.
		The regular people who are screaming at the top of their lungs and marching through the street, those are the green actors, meaning a pair of organizers from the direct action group of their cell or whatever they call it will go flyer.
		And tell everybody, hey, we're doing a big march.
		It's a peaceful protest.
		They will then have the direct action violence people.
		These are the people who wear all black, burn things, set fires, smash things, fight people.
		They will crack you in the head with a bike lock.
		That's what they did in Berkeley.
		The same people who brought makeshift smoke bombs, brought M-80s, one of their guys came with a bike lock and was bashing several people over the head with it.
		Regular people who get invited are meant to create a mass the police can't handle, and it's designed to indoctrinate.
		So what they'll do is they'll say, peaceful protest, everybody come.
		Then the direct action group has the yellow organizers.
		These are people who will be in the front line with the cops yelling at them.
		And we'll be directing the mass.
		And then the red actors, the red group, are usually crowded around in the centers.
		And they'll throw bricks, throw M-80s, throw less so Molotovs.
		We don't see a lot of Molotovs in the United States, though it did happen in the George Floyd riots.
		Or they will directly barricade themselves to buildings they expect to get arrested.
		The goal is to create chaos.
		So the mass of regular people have no idea what's going on.
		It's the green zone.
		It's the biggest is to cover up what they're doing.
		They'll say, hey, everybody, wear masks.
		Show up wearing a hoodie in solidarity.
		That way the police can't identify who the bad actors are.
		The other reason they do it is that they intentionally will start a fight with the cops.
		So the cops arrest all these run-of-the-mill college students.
		That way they go to jail, are terrified.
		And then while in jail, the cultists, far leftists will say, see, aren't cops evil?
		Look what they're doing to you.
		You didn't even do anything wrong.
		You were peacefully protesting.
		That's unconstitutional.
		They're fascists.
		I know.
		Let's all sing songs together.
		Not kidding.
		Literally how they do it.
		Then they're all singing together.
		Then when they're finally being let go, they say, here's my phone number.
		Call me.
		Let's hang out.
		And that's how they indoctrinate young people into their cult.
		They intentionally get them arrested.
		They plan.
		I will say this to all the young people out there.
		They want you to get arrested.
		They will instigate a fight with the cops so the cops arrest you and then look you in the eyes and say, look how evil they are for doing this.
		That's the game they play.
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	We wanted to get Luke Beasley and Enrique Atario because he had those choice words about him.
	He has refused.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Luke refused?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Luke refused.
		Oh, yeah.
		Enrique's like, I'll talk to anybody.
		But Luke said no.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That's a bummer.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think Luke actually has the capabilities to actually talk with the J6er.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So we said, well, maybe is there any other subject you'd be willing to talk about?
		Because we'd still like to have a debate.
		But it is funny to me that these leftists will never do it.
		They run and they hide.
		Conservatives won't stop banging on the door, telling us, hey, let us in.
		We want to come on the show.
		Liberals are like, no, wait, we can't handle Google.
		You bring, like, Kyle Kalinske on here, you sit him in that chair, and, like, I'll be like, Kyle, I won't debate you.
		I'll just Google search what you're saying, and what do you find?
		Everything you're saying is wrong.
		Okay, not everything, but a lot of it.
		And you're like, that's weird, Google says something else.
		I ain't gonna debate you.
		I'll just Google it.
		Anyway, let's grab some Super Chats.
		Let's go.
		Greg Cutler says, I Super Chatted $100 last year, suggesting Ben Davidson as a guest.
		Fulfilled!
unidentified		Epic.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Andre says, no Rumble stream.
		We are live on Rumble, baby.
		Nearly 20,000 viewers on Rumble.
		40,000 on YouTube.
		Look at that.
		Rumble's getting big.
		Philosopher Stone says, hypothetical question for you guys.
		If you had to delete either pizza or video games from the Earth forever, which would you choose?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Video games.
unidentified		Video games.
unidentified		Nah, pizza.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Pizza.
unidentified		Video games.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, pizza is largely an unhealthy...
		High-carb food.
		And it is delicious.
		If made right, the question then becomes, pizza is a nebulous description?
		Do you mean just like a New York-style cheese?
		Are we talking about like an Italian focaccia with zucchini?
		Deep dish?
unidentified		All flatbreads?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, all flatbreads.
		What if it's just like bread with olive oil and mozzarella slices on top?
		Right, so if you're just basically saying New York-style...
		As we know, like Papa John's, Domino's, pizza, all gone.
		I say pizza.
		It's bad for you.
		And the important thing is video games may be...
		And it's not like I want to ban pizza.
		I'd like both of them to exist.
		But video games are actually really good for keeping the mind sharp, for hand-eye coordination.
		And we've already seen that many of the people who are physically fit and play video games have shown lower signs of mental aging, which makes sense.
		So, what is it called, Phil?
		Sarcopenia?
		Is that it?
		Age-related muscle loss?
		After, what, like 30 or something?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		35?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think it's actually after, like, 40. 40?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Your muscles just start disappearing.
		I think, for the most part, it's if you don't use it, you lose it.
		The same is true for your brain.
		So, people who play video games, whatever it may be, the other problem I have with video games is that not all video games are, like, stupid, gore, mindless, zombie stuff.
		Civilization's fantastic.
		Educational.
		Teach kids.
		Not the new one.
		Civ 7, everyone hates.
		But we don't need pizza.
		You know what I mean?
		Greasy, heavy carbs, a lot of sugar in the sauce.
		It's okay.
		You can make it right if you put, like, whey in the flour to get it more protein-dense, maybe.
		But, you know, if I had to make a choice, I'd say video games can be educational.
unidentified		So, there are some video games like that.
		I think that...
		Just like with the pizza discussion, there could be a more nuanced discussion about video games.
		Because there are some video games, it does the same thing to your brain as watching pornography.
		You know?
		In terms of the quick dopamine hit, like dopamine sickness, like rapid...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So does pizza.
unidentified		It does.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So that's why it's...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the other thing too is video game is very vague as well.
unidentified		It is, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So it's like you're talking about like...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Console games and stuff, like no more Baldur's Gate or whatever.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Tetris.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But what about Polybridge?
		That game's amazing.
		You ever play it?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's an engineering game where there'll be a little truck and a little car, and it's like, here's how much wood you have.
		Build a bridge.
		And then you're trying to design a bridge.
		What I love about those games is that I always try to make the worst imaginable structures.
		Because sometimes it's easy to like, okay, I can build a suspension bridge.
		And you put two posts, then you secure them, and you put wires to the bridge, and it holds it up.
		And I'm like, that's boring.
		I want to make the weirdest design imaginable that works for some reason.
		And then you press play, and the little car will drive across it.
		That game is great for kids.
		Kids should be playing it.
unidentified		I think I played that in middle school, actually.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if they had PolyBridge back then.
unidentified		They had something like that.
		It may have been called Bridge Builder back then.
		I think it was called Bridge Builder.
		And we played it in shop class.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I just soloed Zero Hour today for the first time.
		That's a D2 game.
		I got avowed.
unidentified		I am unenthused.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Aw, drag.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I mean, I've been playing it a little bit, but I just...
		I'm bored.
		I don't know.
		It's like I'm in the first area and I'm just like rolling my eyes.
		You know?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Last game I played was Sonic.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Baldur's Gate was epic.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Sonic.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I like Sonic the Hedgehog.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The best game I've played in a very, very long time is Baldur's Gate 3. Really, just absolutely amazing game.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Third-person adventure, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, RPG, turn-based, and then Avowed is...
		I don't know, it's an Obsidian game, I think.
		And you have, like, an axe and a bow and arrow or whatever, and I'm just like, blech.
		I really hate the action-oriented...
		First-person games.
		Like, if you're gonna make me jump and climb, I don't want to play first-person.
		It's just, it's annoying to play with controller.
		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I disagree.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Where you, like, it's first-person, but you have to climb stuff?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You don't even know if you can climb it, and then you fall, and you're like, okay.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		First person?
		That's literally the game that I played today.
		Destiny 2 is first person shooter.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but you're not climbing things.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There's a bunch of platforming and stuff in Zero Hour.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In Destiny, you have double jumps and triple jumps and you have air dashes and stuff.
		That's fine.
		But avowed is literally jump-climb.
		And then if you jump to the right height, the hands come up and pull automatically.
		Nah, throw it out.
		Nah, I don't like it.
		Horizon Zero Dawn is incredible.
		And Horizon Forbidden West.
		Big fan.
		Alright, let's go!
		What do we got here?
		Anti-war nobody says, Tim, you should have Louis J. Gomez on the culture war to debate banning pitbulls.
		They are 20% of the dog population and are responsible for 66% of the fatal attacks.
		Yep.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That would be great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There was a...
		There's stories like this all the time.
		There was a woman who had two pitbulls and there was, like, nothing abusive.
		Everything was normal.
		They were in the backyard.
		She walked outside.
		They killed her.
		She did.
		And they were just like, we don't know why.
unidentified		You guys understand why some people don't want to have the conversation about a certain segment of a species being a problem and needing to be gotten rid of?
unidentified		You understand why humans don't want to have that conversation, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, because humans are thinking individuals who can make rational thought.
		Wild animals are different, and animals are very different.
		So that's why when people are like, oh, we're going to compare dogs to race, well, you can't.
		Because it's just not real.
		There's too many factors in human populations.
		Here's an example.
		Everyone goes to what they call the 1350. They say in the United States, despite making up 13% of the population, the black population is responsible for 50% of violent crimes.
		And it's just like, the things that are attached to that are so spattered and wild that you can't get accurate data sets.
		For instance, You can't compare Somalis to Haitians.
		They're two different distinct ethnic groups and they have different heights.
		They have different average weights and completely different crime rates, but they're both considered black.
		So the issue with the United States that people try to bring this up is it's like, well, you can't do that.
		I can't stand the race realists because they're like, look, man, the history of the United States, the ethnic differences and backgrounds between all different people.
		It is more likely in the short-term socioeconomic factors and cultural issues.
		Chicago's violent crime, which is heavily racialized, is totally cultural and not racial.
		That's why there are white people in a minority in a black neighborhood that are still part of the gangs and shooting people.
		Although they're likely going to get targeted for gang violence because race does play a role.
		But anyway, long story short, as I always just say, like...
		You can't look at the wealthy Nigerians who immigrated to the United States and have extremely low rates of violent crime, extremely high incomes, and then say it's a race thing.
		Because it's like, I mean, maybe there's a component of it, but it is very different than, like, dogs who were bred specifically to be violent, you know what I mean?
		Or to fight in pits.
unidentified		I mean, I think one could make the argument.
unidentified		I would say that one could make the argument that evolution.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, like I said, if you say Asian, for instance, what does that mean?
		And so, in the United States, it means Southeast Asian, but not Indian or Middle Eastern.
		If you go to the UK, you say Asian.
		People typically think China, Japan, even though they're totally forgetting, like, you know, famously with King of the Hill, Laos, or Vietnam.
		But in the media and in their government, they mean people from India, and they mean literally the Asian entire continent, which includes Russians.
		Yeah.
		The problem with the argument then becomes, well, of course we recognize evolution, set certain characteristics through genetics with various people.
		The Scandinavians were ruthlessly violent for some period, and now they're dainty, still very tall, but very weak and effeminate, which is kind of funny.
		But then once again, Scandinavians and Ukrainians are very different people, despite both being white.
		You're going to find different crime rates among these different groups.
		Ukraine crime is extremely high.
		Swedish crime is...
		Extremely low, but they're both white.
		So we're not going to say white is the underlying factor.
		That's the challenge I have with the race realists, is they're like, all white people as a single group is like, I don't know, man, why don't you go take a look at Northern Ireland and see the crime there?
		And like, you know what I mean?
		And then, you know, I don't think, I'm sort of the middle of the road on this one.
		The race realists largely are like, race is deterministic.
		I think nature and nurture is both.
		50-50.
		So there have been a bunch of studies on this one.
		Obviously, Charles Murray and the bell curve is like taboo.
		For a while, ChatGPT wouldn't even let you talk about it.
unidentified		Unreal.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I think nurture largely overwhelms nature, though nature plays a significant role.
		So anyway, but we don't need to harp on that.
		We can talk a bit more about the uncensored.
		I don't want to have one rumble rant hog the entire conversation.
		All right, let's go.
		Rue Actual says, but rolling Afghanistan would have been really bad optics and bad for profit margins.
		Perhaps.
		K. Daniels says, I'm making a picture of Metallica, but every member is J.D. Vance.
		Bless you.
		Bless you for doing so.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I think I saw a Pantera of all J.D. Vance today.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Doug Dimidome says, 19 Hz is the ghost frequency.
		They did a study where a band played for three days, and on random songs they played a 19 Hz undertone.
		People reported feeling uneasy or spine-tingling during it.
		I've heard a lot of stories where they, like, universities did studies with ultra-low frequencies, and they would put people in, like, dark stairway corridors and then blast it, and people felt like it was haunted.
		You know?
		And what about the magnet helmet that make people feel God?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You hear about that one?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They put a giant helmet on people with, like, magnets, and then blasted their brains with super powerful magnets, and they said they felt the presence of God.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But wouldn't, like, couldn't you rip the iron out of someone's skull or something?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that sounds...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Out of their blood?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I guess not.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think the actual, like, you have a very, very, very small amount of iron in your blood.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's there, but it's a very small amount.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you ever take a magnet to a bowl of cereal?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can literally pull the iron out of it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Really?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I want to try that now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, get like some cornflakes or frosted flakes or something.
		Like, Google it because it's probably a better cereal.
		And you run a big magnet around it and you'll see the iron start to pull off the...
unidentified		Wow.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because they put nutritional iron in Fortified, I believe it's called.
		What have we here?
		Skin says between January 21st of 25 and March 11th, there have been approximately 52 to 54 plane crashes in the U.S. compared to about 87 for the same time period in 2021 from Grok.
		But the question is, what kind of plane crashes?
		What kind?
		Are the planes slamming to the ground and flipping over with tons of injuries or deaths?
		Or is it like the plane lands with the busted gear and everyone's fine and no one really talks about it?
		So, my bigger concern is that...
		At some point, a plane may have a landing gear break off, and the landing gear will then flow through a time stream and land on a house of a bedroom of a kid who just so happened to have gotten out of bed because a weird rabbit told him in the middle of the night and lured him out of his bed into the street.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Great soundtrack.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's the best soundtrack ever.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Great soundtrack.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know they had an alternative soundtrack to that and it was not good?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And then they were like, let's just do 80s music, and it was the best soundtrack ever.
		Donnie Darko was the reference.
		I missed it.
		If anyone understands what the movie's about, it's about a time loop that he decides to break by dying.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		As one does.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so a landing gear crashes in their house and they have no idea where it came from because when the plane was hitting turbulence, I think the plane crashes too, right?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if the plane crashes.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I just remember the thing falling.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The gear gets sucked through a time, through a wormhole and then lands on his house and they're like, no plane lost a gear.
		Where did this come from?
		But he sees the ghost of the rabbit he killed.
		Who tells him to leave his house and then he's going to die in a month or something?
		It's a weird movie.
		It's great, though!
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It's a great movie.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we enjoy watching it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Jake Gyllenhaal, right?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and his sister.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Maggie.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's right.
		And who else is in it?
		What's her face?
		Who's in The Hunger Games?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I don't remember.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I can't remember.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		No, it's before her.
unidentified		Who?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		He said Jennifer Lawrence, but I think she was too young at that point.
unidentified		It's been impossibly Jennifer.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Unless she traveled through Time Warp.
unidentified		No, it's not.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		This is 2001. I never saw Donnie Darko.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		You never saw Donnie Darko?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's Jenna Malone.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yep, yep, yep.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Hunger Games as well.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright.
		Weather World says, Tim, the magnetic poles are always shifting on a 23.5 degree wobble.
		Current location is 85.762 north, 139.298 east.
		The polar flip is the problem.
		Uh-oh.
		I agree.
		That is the problem.
		So, we'll talk a little bit about that, I suppose.
		You know, everyone's gonna die or something.
		We're all gonna go live underground.
		With the moles in holes?
unidentified		I hope not.
unidentified		That doesn't sound very fun.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No, it sounds like it sucks.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Miserable.
		I don't know.
		It depends on how big the underground city could be.
		Cornelius says, Ben, do you think the pole shifts could be the catalyst that causes Yellowstone caldera to erupt?
		I'm no geologist, but it seems to me that the past eruptions line up with past pole shifts.
unidentified		I couldn't disagree more.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You think it will not affect us?
unidentified		No.
		The last geomagnetic excursion was 6,000 years ago.
		Before that, 12,000, 18,000, 24,000, 30,000, 36,000, 42,000, 48,000.
		Yellowstone has not erupted.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When was the last shift?
unidentified		The last magnetic pole shift?
		Yeah.
		6,000 years ago.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So it's every 12,000 years?
unidentified		So basically there's a mini version every 6,000 years, but every other one is really bad.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So we're looking for a...
unidentified		The one coming now is really bad.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's the big one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So 6,000 years ago was the mini.
unidentified		Yeah, 6,000 years ago.
unidentified		What Noah endured was the mini.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ah.
		Gotta build an arc.
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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, we have a quick correction.
		That Atlantic article about J.D. Vance, the writer is not Ali, it's Ali.
		It's a man.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Uh-oh.
		Effeminate men.
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