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USAID Orders Staff To SHRED & BURN ALL Documents, Deep State COVER UP w/Bubba Clem| Timcast IRL
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So a USAID official has instructed all employees to shred and burn all documents and And this is according to an email that NBC News has uncovered.
You have to wonder why it is they're telling them to do that.
Oh boy.
And this comes at a time when Trump's efforts to shut down USAID are being thwarted or at least jammed up by Democrats and bureaucrats.
So this is going to be interesting.
I think it's a cover-up.
I don't know for sure.
We'll go into exactly what's going on.
But they're trying to destroy as many documents as possible.
And rightly so, people are really angry.
We've got a handful of other stories.
Donald Trump says that any one of these far leftists who are attacking Tesla dealerships, they firebombed them.
They firebombed Teslas that were in a parking lot.
Basically, they were delivering electric cars and somebody went and torched a bunch of Cybertrucks.
They even shot up private Teslas owned by individuals.
Trump says domestic.
Terrorism.
We'll talk about that.
We have that story about the Infowars reporter who was murdered.
Now another reporter was swatted just mere hours in the following day.
Here's a funny one.
Rosie O'Donnell's fled the country.
She's in Ireland now.
I don't know who cares.
Funny.
And then this big story about Mahmoud Khalil.
He was a green card holder, a resident of the United States, who had his visa revoked.
He has been arrested by ICE. He's being deported.
And Democrats are claiming this is a violation of his free speech because they care so much about the free speech of non-citizens but not American citizens.
So I'm going to come out right away and say you will not get me to defend a non-citizen when y'all would not defend American citizens who are being censored and shut down.
Nice.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Bubba the Love Sponge.
unidentified
Hi, Tim.
How are you, my friend?
tim pool
I am doing great.
How about you?
unidentified
I'm doing great.
Very honored to be here.
A good friend of ours, Alex Stein, I think, helped me get with you.
And so, what a great experience.
What a nice facility.
tim pool
Thank you.
unidentified
And being a fellow radio guy, really impressed by your setup, and I appreciate the opportunity of being here.
tim pool
Yeah, who are you?
What do you do?
I mean, honestly, I think everyone knows who you are.
unidentified
Well, you know, maybe.
I'm Bubba Love Sponge.
I've been doing content or radio for 40-plus years.
I did some radio back when you were a little kid in Chicago.
Yeah, B96. Pretty much everything that we do now is at The Bubba Army, whether it's our YouTube channel, whether it's our Facebook, our X. And then we have kind of a master website with some of my old archive stuff from back in the day that's BubbaArmyHQ.com.
So I do content like you do, different hours.
I do morning drive.
I have some terrestrial affiliates, and then we do kind of an after show kind of deal like what you do as well.
tim pool
And you're one of these OG radio guys, so you knew like...
Howard Stern and all of them?
unidentified
Worked for Howard for six years.
Wow.
So, yeah, I'm kind of one of these OG, old head kind of guys, you know.
Really...
Proud of the younger generation and what you guys are doing with that.
But radio and what you guys...
Radio's in trouble.
Terrestrial radio's in trouble because they've ran off all the talent.
All the talent now is over here.
Or at least trying to be here.
Or establish some real estate here.
So, you know, regular radio is in big trouble right now.
tim pool
Interesting.
Well, we've got a lot to talk about, so glad you can be here.
unidentified
Thank you for having me.
tim pool
Libby's hanging out.
libby emmons
I'm Libby Emmons.
I'm hanging out.
I'm glad to be here.
I'm with the Postmillennial.
Glad to meet you.
unidentified
Hi, Libby.
How are you?
libby emmons
Hi, how's it going?
Phil's here.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
Bubba, you and I are going to have some...
unidentified
Now, is it true that Tampa, Florida is like the death metal capital of the world?
phil labonte
It is, yeah.
I think it's more sound.
Is the studio down there?
unidentified
Yeah.
The Cannibals?
phil labonte
The Cannibal Corpse.
Well, the Cannibal Corpse started in Buffalo, and they moved to Florida.
Yeah.
Deocides in Tampa.
There's a band.
It's called Trivium that's out of Orlando.
There's, I think, Malevolent Creationist in Tampa.
There's a bunch of bands in the Tampa area.
unidentified
I don't know how Tampa...
I mean, we were the strip club capital for the world.
It's Florida.
Might as well be the heavy metal capital for the world.
phil labonte
It's Florida, man.
The comment you made about terrestrial radio and how all of the talent left, that's something that I'd like to touch on.
Maybe we'll talk about it on the after show.
tim pool
Quick question for you, Phil.
Would the country be a better place if...
Metal as a genre had more fans than Taylor Swift.
phil labonte
I don't know that it would be a better place, but it would definitely be a more calm place.
unidentified
I'll tell you what would make America a better place.
And I had Joe Rogan on my show in the early stages of my serious career in 06. And he was talking about, at the time, he'd been turned away from a bunch of terrestrial radio stations.
KLOS, KROQ, some really legendary stations.
And you know how well somebody like you and Joe Rogan...
And some of these huge franchises would do on regular radio right now.
tim pool
Well, we actually...
unidentified
You guys can't...
It's almost taking a step back for y'all.
tim pool
Well, yeah.
So we've talked to agencies and they said, we will sell your show for radio syndication, but no one actually bothers to do it.
And it's because all the ad agencies say that the revenue is like 5%.
So it's just...
It never takes priority.
unidentified
Never.
And as it shouldn't.
Just because you've...
Once you've made it...
Where you've made it, then it's going backwards, if that makes any sense.
phil labonte
Yeah, but why not?
unidentified
But it hurts the integrity of how good terrestrial radio could be again if they bring the Tim Pools, if they bring Joe Rogans, if they would have that talent pool, but they've ran them all off.
phil labonte
Yeah, that's one of the things that you said that struck me.
The reason people listen to terrestrial radio, if they listen to terrestrial radio, is because of the talent on the radio show.
Because nowadays, if you want to listen to music, you can stream whatever you want, whenever you want.
unidentified
No commercials.
phil labonte
No commercials, or minimal commercials.
So if people are listening to your JJOs in Wisconsin, or your, you know, your...
unidentified
WLUP in Chicago, remember AM1000? Yeah.
Remember, Tim, when you grew up with WLS, and Larry Lujak, and John Records Landecker, and all those guys.
phil labonte
AUPD in Arizona.
tim pool
We should go to the news, though.
unidentified
Sorry, Tim.
tim pool
Here's a story from the Postmillennial.
Five alarm fire.
USAID employees told to shred or burn classified documents.
This is from, obviously, Postmillennial.
The U.S. Agency for International Development instructed its Washington staff to shred and burn documents, according to an email obtained by NBC News.
Directive comes as the Trump administration faces challenges over its attempts to strip and shut down the agency.
An email from Erica Carr, USAID's acting executive secretary, indicated that the destruction was scheduled for Tuesday.
The message thanked workers for their assistance in clearing our classified safes and personnel documents.
Shred as many documents first and reserve the burn bags for when the shredder becomes unavailable or needs a break.
How do they burn these things in D.C.?
So they say, while classified materials are sometimes destroyed in emergencies, former employees and a group representing foreign service workers say this directive is not appropriate.
Legal groups opposing the administration's effort to shut down USAID filed an emergency motion on Tuesday to halt the destruction.
Defendants are, as this motion is being filed, destroying documents with potential pertinence to this litigation.
The motion stated, a Trump administration official stated that three dozen employees received the email and that the materials being destroyed were courtesy content documents given to USAID by other agencies.
So Mike Benz tweets, this is a five alarm fire.
Right now, as we speak today, USAID is shredding and burning the contents of its agency's classified safes.
The key information needed to reconstruct the history of USAID's weaponization both at home and abroad.
But it sounds like the Trump administration wants this to happen.
libby emmons
Yeah, so if you scroll down to the bottom, there's another paragraph right there at the end that...
That they're old documents.
They're in compliance with Federal Records Act of 1950. The official said everyone involved in the process had a secret clearance or higher and was approved by the Bureau that they were handling.
Majority of the content is courtesy content.
Most original copies are still classified in computer systems.
Yeah, I mean, so that's possible for sure.
unidentified
Yeah, but how about just the actual physicality of, what, do you got to go out back and get a big barrel and throw some gas in there?
Like, I mean...
How are you doing it?
Like in downtown Washington, D.C., how are you actually physically setting something on fire?
tim pool
I imagine they're loading them into trucks and the trucks bring them to burn sites or something.
phil labonte
Look, I mean, if it's USAID that they're talking about, I mean, these people have...
The capacity to dispose of incriminating evidence wherever they are, because that's what CIA is capable of doing that.
You know that any time you hear, historically, any time a United States embassy was about to be taken over or you had to get people out, there was a burning of sensitive documents.
That's actually standard practice.
It happened in Vietnam and stuff.
If you have to get out of there, you burn all the incriminating evidence, anything you don't want to fall into the hands of the opposition forces or whatever.
So the idea that they have a protocol that can be used in D.C., that should not be surprising to anyone.
libby emmons
No, I mean, obviously you would have a protocol to get rid of documents, but it does seem kind of crazy that they're just burning it all, just getting rid of it, without anyone just taking a look at what those files are.
phil labonte
I mean, I would like to think that the DOJ would be able to call and say stop.
libby emmons
If they wanted to.
The DOJ is super busy right now.
phil labonte
They are, but I know he's busy.
tim pool
To be fair, I've seen a lot of criticism of the DOJ where they're pointing out that while the DOJ has done some things, a lot of people expect them to go after the lawfare first.
And certainly there was some hubbub over the Epstein files, but it looks more so like...
They're going after things that we agree or we don't like, but not the biggest priority.
unidentified
You're not really hearing much from them, really.
I mean...
tim pool
I mean, Kash Patel arrested some U.S. Army guy selling secrets.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And that's great, but everybody expected the first thing to be those who were waging lawfare against Trump and his legal team.
But I suppose those things take time.
libby emmons
Those things take time.
You have to bring a case.
You have to develop a case.
You have to put it all together.
You have to go out and do the investigation.
Those kind of investigations do take a long time.
Look how long it took to investigate Hunter Biden for his various crimes.
That took years.
And the lawfare takes a long time, too.
Like when they were going after Trump, it was years of building stuff up, falsifying documents, creating steel dossiers, things like that.
So while that's certainly not something I would expect the Trump DOJ to do, they do have to go figure out where the crimes were committed.
Right.
They have to say like, OK, Alvin Bragg did this.
That was a crime.
Or Letitia James did this.
That was a crime.
They have to figure that out before they can bring any charges at all.
tim pool
Yeah.
phil labonte
I mean, I assume that they have a generalized idea of what they're looking for, but they probably do.
I mean, you have to have specifics.
Yeah.
libby emmons
You have to bring a case.
You have to, like, develop a case.
unidentified
You want to bring the sexy stuff first, too, though, especially in the first hundred days.
You want that sex.
That's why they were all dangling that Epstein carrot for us, you know, and I don't know that we'll ever really get it.
Really, the way we're supposed to get it.
I mean, I don't think we're going to get it.
libby emmons
I don't think we're going to get real answers.
But the other thing, too, that happened, if you look at how...
Because the other thing the DOJ is doing is going into court to defend all of Trump's executive orders every time the ACLU or 23 states team up to bring cases.
And they have to go in and defend that against judges.
And you had a lot of judges...
You know, every time like you've had some wins for sure, but you've also had a lot of temporary stays of executive orders or temporary overturnings of executive orders.
And you've seen judges say things like.
Where's your case?
Like, don't you have something better to defend that with?
So the DOJ really has to work to get their cases together, too, to defend, what is it like, over 300 executive orders at this point, many of which have been challenged in court, rightly or wrongly.
tim pool
300?
libby emmons
At least, yeah.
tim pool
It's got to be a record, right?
libby emmons
Yeah, it's a lot.
unidentified
Wow.
libby emmons
I think he doesn't have as many, I don't think he's on track to have as many executive orders right now as...
FDR. FDR had a lot of cleaning up to do.
unidentified
I mean, we thought we think we were in bad druthers.
I mean, they were really, really in a bad way.
libby emmons
He had to make an extra mess, too.
Like, he had to keep compounding.
unidentified
Right, right.
libby emmons
Worse.
But, yeah, so you definitely have a ton of that going on.
tim pool
I wonder how much Trump is actually going to be able to succeed in the gutting of the bureaucratic state and the deep state, what with the judges saying you can't freeze payments and things like this.
Certainly, I think the advantage is always going to be with the executive branch, which does present some challenges for our constitutional republic in that Trump can fire away executive orders over and over and over and over again, but the Supreme Court doesn't convene every day.
libby emmons
Right.
And they can only take a certain number of cases a turn.
unidentified
Right.
Federal judges run this country.
And they're appointed for life.
And they're as polarizing as the parties in themselves.
But federal judges are the only ones that can really overturn these things.
And again, Trump can sign 300 of them.
But how many Barack Obama or Clinton-appointed federal judges will get these and just shoot them right down to zero?
phil labonte
And look, remember, it's great.
That Donald Trump is doing things through executive order, but we really do need Congress to legislate.
Yeah, we do.
Because they have to be.
That's the only way that they're going to be permanent.
If we really want to get rid of the Department of Education, there has to be legislation.
unidentified
And that's such a long process in itself.
libby emmons
I mean, it wasn't the deal.
I mean, the DOE was Jimmy Carter formed it, but like he signed a congressional.
That's a thing, right?
When Trump came into his first term, he overturned a lot of Obama executive orders.
When Biden came in, he overturned a lot of Trump executive orders.
And now we have Trump overturned, what, 78 Biden executive orders and is creating new executive orders.
And if the GOP doesn't keep the White House, then a lot more executive orders will be overturned.
And to be honest, that's no way to...
Live your life under executive orders that only live for four years at a time.
There's also, though, the other thing that was interesting was the affirmative action executive order.
That was Lyndon B. Johnson, and Trump just overturned that.
So that was interesting to you that lasted a long time.
phil labonte
The government doesn't have the power to do this stuff anyways.
The reason that we have every administration undoing the stuff that the previous administration did is because we actually have a government that is going far beyond its constitutional mandate.
That's right.
libby emmons
Just look at EPA versus West Virginia.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
If you want to get some real changes, like really, really big changes, get a constitutional amendment to clarify the necessary and proper clause in the Commerce Clause.
libby emmons
When's the last time there was a constitutional amendment that actually went through?
phil labonte
It certainly wasn't the ERA. No, it wasn't.
The ERA didn't.
I want to say that it was in the 90s was the last one.
libby emmons
Was it?
phil labonte
But it was something that was not significantly consequential to the average American.
Yeah.
I can Google it in a second.
But the point that I'm making is the president shouldn't be coming in and trying to create law.
We shouldn't have presidents, different administrations, fighting about what they think the country should be doing.
The fact of the matter is what the federal government actually has power to do has been laid out in the Constitution.
There's no reason for the government to try to go beyond bounds because the states are empowered to all make decisions.
What is good for California is not necessarily good for Florida, or what's good for Massachusetts is not necessarily good for Idaho.
And it is completely, like, not only is it good, it is the thing that the country is supposed to do.
They have different laboratories of democracy and try things out.
tim pool
The rumor is that Trump's intention, his agenda, is to basically federalize the country, to largely dismantle the federal government.
So the states become competitive once again.
Regulation, everything will largely follow the state's taxation.
unidentified
Love to see it.
tim pool
So when we're talking about the gutting of the IRS, some 45,000 employees, or now the Department of Education, which is a big story, I was watching Fox News and the breaking news came in.
They ordered all staff to vacate the building by six for security reasons.
phil labonte
Love to hear it.
tim pool
And now by tomorrow, half the staff may be gone.
I'm hearing from people who, let's just say, they work in and around D.C. Trump wants the states to be in control once again.
libby emmons
Well that makes sense when you consider the Dobbs decision which was a state thing and when you look at how a lot of states are fleeing Delaware right now.
Companies would set up, you'd set up a Delaware Corp, and now people are going to...
phil labonte
I think Walmart's the biggest.
unidentified
Yeah, Walmart's the biggest.
libby emmons
They're going to where?
Like Wyoming, Arizona, wherever?
phil labonte
I'd love to see it.
libby emmons
Montana.
unidentified
I think Montana is one of the...
I think Montana, you guys can look this up, might be the only state in the country where you can set up a company and the owners of the corporation are not publicly disclosed.
You cannot find out who the owner of a corporation is in Montana.
So a lot of people set up LLCs and sub S's in Montana, which was much like had some same some same verbiage that Delaware had until just most recently people over, you know, the Delaware thing got overturned and people are leaving.
tim pool
Well, you know.
I've had my gripes over West Virginia's...
Garbage law.
We call them Uber laws.
However, West Virginia did just pass an artificial food die ban.
libby emmons
I saw that.
That was cool.
tim pool
However, the governor hasn't signed it.
He could still veto this.
libby emmons
Do you think he will?
tim pool
Well, I think people got to understand this.
The major food producers probably generate several billion dollars worth of revenue in the state.
Largely for themselves, but that amounts to a lot of taxes and jobs.
And so you know these companies are going to be telling the governor, don't sign this.
Because you're going to lose X billion dollars per year, which is going to result in X loss of jobs, this or otherwise, which means everybody out there who supports this stuff, you need to do whatever you can to make sure that West Virginia, and any state that does this, has the support it needs.
So that means we need investors who are going to be like, I'm going to set up a cereal manufacturing plant or whatever, West Virginia, that uses beta carotene instead of red dyes or whatever.
We're going to make real healthy food instead of the fake dye garbage.
That way, the market doesn't take a hit.
But we will talk about that a bit more later on.
I do want to jump to this story.
This is the big news, ladies and gentlemen.
Mahmoud Khalil, he is a green card holder, permanent resident of the United States.
He had his visa revoked.
He is being deported.
A judge has blocked his deportation temporarily.
And they're saying it's because he was aligned with Hamas.
He was supporting Hamas-aligned activities.
And now NPR reports green card holders' rights in spotlight.
What's really fascinating about this story is how the story itself largely doesn't matter to Democrats.
Well, here's the funny thing.
The run-of-the-mill Democrats are angry over this because it's an immigration question.
The far-left Democrats are angry because this guy was anti-Israel.
The middle-of-the-road Republicans are saying...
You can do this.
You have no right to be here.
And then the Juwanon and—it's a distinction—and the anti-Israel right side are angry over this, and they're claiming it's free speech grounds.
I think principally Israel is the issue for a lot of these people, but there is an interesting question being brought up as Trump's administration is seeking to deport a permanent resident who is married to an American in this country.
So what do you think?
phil labonte
He's calling for violence.
tim pool
Were he called for violence?
phil labonte
There were quotes where he was saying we should attack the police and things like that.
libby emmons
Were those his quotes or were they part of the Columbia University apartheid divest?
phil labonte
The way that I understand it, they were his quotes.
I could be misinformed.
libby emmons
I was looking for a video of him specifically and I didn't find that stuff.
unidentified
But again, what's stopping it?
A federal judge.
tim pool
I know people have been saying he has quotes like, we will resist the police and things like that, or something that affect.
I don't know exactly what he said specifically.
That could be described as threats of violence or anything like that.
libby emmons
Well, Columbia University Apartheid Divest is a really radical group, and they're the ones who were staging the...
Takeover of Hamilton Hall last year, the takeover of the Quad.
I think it was almost two weeks that they had to takeover.
tim pool
They took over buildings.
libby emmons
Yeah, Hamilton Hall.
They renamed it Hind Hall after a girl that was killed in Gaza.
They were very specific about that.
But they took over the Quad for like two weeks.
They recently took over Barnard's Milstein Library, which is like this really storied historic library on the campus that is shared by...
It's shared by both universities.
But yeah, I mean, it's a pretty shocking group.
They have really disgusting views.
They're very big Jew haters.
They also are very big haters of the West, of America.
They've also done this crazy thing where they compare the war in Gaza and Israel to Colombia's real estate deals in Manhattan on the Morningside campus.
They say that Columbia is an occupier of, you know, Morningside, this part of Manhattan and all of this stuff, which is absolutely ridiculous.
And that's how they link that up all together.
It's not a good group.
They have really bad ideas and they have they had last year the daughter of Ilhan Omar was out there.
She was a Barnard student.
She was protesting and Ilhan Omar was out there as well.
You also had Congressman Brandon Gill today saying that he thought that he'd think the country would be better off if Ilhan Omar was deported, which made me look up how you could deport a naturalized citizen.
tim pool
Well, real quick, it is funny, but most people don't realize that Ilhan Omar has a 20 something year old daughter.
libby emmons
Yeah, and she was in Barnard.
I think she got, I know she got suspended.
I don't know if she got expelled.
She was certainly locked out of her housing for a good while and made a whole stink about being unhoused.
tim pool
Unhoused.
Well, so I asked my Twitter, my ex-followers, should non-citizens in the U.S. be allowed to stage protests against U.S. policy?
85.8% said no.
14.2% said yes out of 20,801 votes.
It's been up for two hours.
libby emmons
I think that is actually a violation of the green card, like the green card requirements.
It has responsibilities of the government and responsibilities as permanent resident.
And one of the responsibilities as a permanent resident, it says required to obey all laws of the United States and localities and also expected to support the democratic form of government, not including voting, which you can't do.
tim pool
Yeah.
I'm totally fine with his visa being revoked and him being revoked.
unidentified
Me too.
Absolutely.
I mean, sorry.
Sorry about your luck, bud.
We've got rules around here.
I mean, you know, sorry.
tim pool
I mean, these protests were taking over buildings.
We're not talking about a guy standing on a street corner waving a little sign that says Free Palestine.
We're talking about a guy who was an organizer of a protest, who was giving speeches.
libby emmons
Giving press conferences.
tim pool
Press conferences.
And they physically took over buildings and occupied spaces unlawfully.
I think the issue was for a lot of people that don't remember the videos that came out of this, where Jewish students were attacked.
One incident where a guy, I think it was a guy or woman, they were wearing a Star of David, and they were walking around, I think it was Columbia.
And then people just formed a line, linked arms, and pushed them out.
libby emmons
Yeah, they refused to let them into the encampment.
They also refused to let people go to class.
Recently, they say that Khalil was part of a group of students.
I don't know if this is true, but they say that he was part of a group of students that was disrupting classes and distributing Hamas leaflets in classes.
That's something...
tim pool
He was...
Hamas leaflets?
libby emmons
It was like Al-Aqsa flood stuff.
tim pool
Which is like pro-Hamas?
libby emmons
Al-Aqsa flood, that's what they call...
Al-Aqsa is like the Temple Mount.
Yeah.
And yeah, it's like basically, you know, pro-Hamas.
tim pool
Well, there's a big question.
Basically, it's not...
libby emmons
Right.
So these are the questions.
And this is why I think that it would be good to have a hearing.
I want to hear all the evidence against this guy.
And I'd love to also, if this is the first guy who's being deported who has a green card and he's being, you know, charged.
He hasn't been charged with anything yet.
He hasn't been investigated for any crimes.
And that's something, too.
I was reading the Free Press report this morning.
tim pool
So what?
libby emmons
And they were saying that he hasn't, that nobody in the administration says that he's done anything illegal.
tim pool
So what?
libby emmons
Well, so it's interesting.
tim pool
And so what to you?
I mean, so what in general?
libby emmons
Yeah, if this is going to be the blueprint of how people with green cards are deported, I want every I dotted and T crossed so that we know that in every case this is being done appropriately.
phil labonte
Have an appropriate procedure.
unidentified
Yes.
phil labonte
Do it lawfully.
Chip them all out.
Like, if you've broken the law, beat it.
libby emmons
This is how we protect Americans.
unidentified
Use that as case law, then.
Let's have the first one, and then we'll have some case law.
tim pool
I disagree.
The law clearly states, and if you want to change it, we can change it, there is no judicial review.
The State Department can kick out any green card holder whenever they want.
unidentified
At any time.
tim pool
If it's lawful...
No, no, no, no.
There's no question of what lawful is because there's no judicial review.
phil labonte
Then it is lawful.
tim pool
Right.
That means always, at any time, for any reason, it's lawful.
phil labonte
There's no question.
All I'm saying is, like, if your information is accurate and it's lawful, then ship them out.
tim pool
So here we have...
unidentified
They don't even have an appellate process, right?
phil labonte
There's none.
unidentified
I talked about it earlier.
tim pool
Right.
I've pulled it up.
This is Section 221, Subsection I. After the issuance of a visa or other documentation to any alien, the consular officer or the Secretary of State may at any time, in his discretion, revoke such visa or other documentation, period.
Let me hear this.
General and such revocation shall invalidate the visa or other documentation from the date of issuance, provided that carriers or transportation companies and masters, commanding officers, agents, owners, charterers, or co-signees shall not be penalized.
Under Section 273B, for action taken in reliance on such visas or documentation, which this is an aside to it, they're going to say there shall be no means of judicial review of a revocation under this subsection except in the context of a removal proceeding if such revocation provides the sole ground for removal under Section 237A1B, blah, blah, blah, which is an aside.
Basically, if the Secretary of State says...
We are taking back your visa.
They can do it.
phil labonte
Period.
tim pool
They don't need a reason.
There's no appeals.
There's no court.
There's no habeas corporate judicial review.
It is, you are a visa holder.
You are no longer a visa holder.
You are now here unlawfully and can be deported.
libby emmons
Aren't there extra protections for green card holders?
tim pool
This literally says, and I quote, the Secretary of State at his own discretion can revoke such visa or other documentation.
That's it.
And notice of such revocation.
Notice of, that's the important point, shall be communicated to the Attorney General and such revocation shall invalidate the visa or the documentation from the date of issuance.
So notice, you know what that means?
It means the moment Marco Rubio says, we have revoked your visa.
phil labonte
It's gone!
libby emmons
What did you say about judicial review?
tim pool
So it says here, there shall be no means of judicial review, including review pursuant to section 2241 of Title 28 U.S. Code, or any other habeas corpus provision in sections 1361, 1651 of such title.
It says there shall be no judicial review of a revocation under this subsection except in the context of a removal proceeding if such revocation provides the sole ground for removal under Section 237A1B.
libby emmons
So it sounds like that would be the case here and there would be a removal proceeding and we're going to see a hearing tomorrow.
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
tim pool
You misunderstand.
A specific subsection.
So let me pull up Section 237 if we want to address the specific criteria by which they would have a proceeding.
And I believe it's relating to when other...
Oh, man, this jumps so far.
libby emmons
It's huge.
It's a huge...
You weren't kidding.
It's what, like 500 million pages?
tim pool
It's 503 pages.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
So I think what—we'll get it right.
We'll get it right.
I think what they're saying is if the revocation is particular to a specific action, there's one exception for when they do this.
But I'm pretty sure if you read it plainly, it says in the discretion of the consular or the secretary of state, they can just revoke your visa.
After the fact, it provides exceptions.
libby emmons
That's pretty fascinating.
I didn't know that.
I mean, if that's the case, it's pretty secure.
Yeah.
Also, you have the Trump administration investigating 60 universities total and instructing the administrators of those universities that they have to comply with all of this stuff.
Because the executive order, I guess...
Per the Trump administration's way of thinking is retroactive, right?
I mean, this guy Khalil, I think, was involved in stuff in January.
I don't know if it was before January 20th or before the executive order was signed or after.
But it is interesting if the Trump administration is going to be deporting green card holders from those who...
Retro.
Retroactively.
I wonder if that's part of the plan.
unidentified
I think since he's been in office, this has all stopped.
libby emmons
No, it's still happening.
It's still happening at Barnard.
unidentified
At the level that it happened.
libby emmons
Yeah, at Barnard, they were hanging effigies of one of the deans.
They were distributing leaflets in classes, disrupting classes, preventing people from getting to classes.
The NYPD was called in.
There was a bomb threat so that they had to evacuate the whole building.
I mean, it's pretty insane at Barnard.
And when you look at the press conferences, there's plenty of student activists with accents.
And you wonder, on what circumstance are you here?
Is that going to stick?
So it certainly has been continuing.
In New York, at Columbia specifically, I don't know as much at the other schools.
unidentified
I think everything else is pretty much...
I don't think it's nearly as prevalent as it was.
libby emmons
But you also have the administrators of a lot of these schools saying that they're not going to cooperate.
You have the administrators at Columbia, anyway, saying they're not going to cooperate with ICE or DHS or anybody trying to come find these students.
unidentified
I wonder how that's going to work out for them.
libby emmons
And it's undergrad students who are, of course, adults.
I mean, I think this guy is like 27, 28 years old.
tim pool
I am still trying to find the page.
unidentified
The subsection.
tim pool
Yeah, it's just massive.
libby emmons
It's not easy to find.
unidentified
I think it's 500 plus pages.
phil labonte
The particulars of it, honestly, they're not really all that important to me.
There is a legal means to do this.
How it's done, whether they get a hearing or not, whatever, I don't care.
If they're spouting anti-American rhetoric.
And they're calling for violence or calling for action against the police, calling for if they're occupying private property and stuff like that.
Get them out.
unidentified
Impeding people to get to school.
phil labonte
Send them back.
If you are here, you are here as a guest on a green card, on a visa like that.
So if you're an anti-American, beat it.
Like, send them the hell out of here.
Make room for people that are just going to come into this country and try to subvert the United States.
libby emmons
He was only here since December 2023. Boy, the mentality of...
That was interesting because he finished grad school in January or December of this year.
So what's crazy to me is how do you finish grad school in a year?
I went to grad school at Columbia.
It took me three years to get through it.
And that was arts school.
I mean, so it's not like it was rigorous.
unidentified
The mentality of people who have green cards nowadays, I mean, back in the day, I hate to say some back-of-the-day old-school stuff, but people figured that they were guests of our country, they would act on their best behavior, they wouldn't be the squeaky wheel that gets the oil, and now these people are just doing literally just unbelievable criminal stuff.
tim pool
Libya's right.
libby emmons
Am I right?
tim pool
You are correct.
So there is judicial review in this particular case.
Section 237A1B is specifically about deportation.
And what they're saying is, if the revocation of visa is the sole reason for a deportation, there will be a hearing.
You are correct.
And this is why they're actually having the review right now where the judge has put a halt to it.
phil labonte
Let him have the hearing.
tim pool
If they had him on a crime, any crime...
libby emmons
Crimes, for sure.
tim pool
But that could be like jaywalking.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Then there would be no hearing at all.
But basically what Trump said was national security issues.
I believe the State Department said that he was aligned, engaging activities aligned with Hamas, which I reject wholeheartedly.
libby emmons
You realize I'm going to clip the part where you said Libya is right?
tim pool
Absolutely.
libby emmons
And I'm going to let Bill suggest that forever and ever.
tim pool
You absolutely should.
And that's why we read it.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Okay, because Libby was correct the whole time.
unidentified
I had a Tim is, it might be wrong, Bubba was right today in the green room earlier.
libby emmons
I hope it's on tape.
unidentified
Well, no, there was no tape.
There's no tape of it.
tim pool
We were recording, but was it before the recording?
unidentified
It might have been during the recording.
It was during the talking about the tip situation.
And you said you may be correct if you were talking in the context that I was speaking about.
tim pool
This is actually important.
No tax on tips.
Bubba brought up means super chats may be tax exempt.
phil labonte
Right.
tim pool
And I said, however, so a gratuity is, you know what it is.
It's self-explanatory.
It's money after the fact.
You're not getting anything for doing it.
However, for us with Super Chats, there is an expectation, a probability that we read what you have to say.
So if you're watching right now and you put in a Super Chat, the expectation is Tim is going to be reading the Super Chats and I'm basically paying for that.
That to occur.
unidentified
That real estate.
tim pool
That's not a tip.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
However, you pointed out for your show, when you do Super Chats, you don't read any messages.
You say thank you.
unidentified
To Jim McGill.
That's a tip.
Thank you, yeah.
tim pool
That is a tip.
They're giving you money with no expectation of what's called legal consideration.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Meaning, your tech's exempt on all that.
unidentified
So I'm looking forward to that.
I hope it goes through.
tim pool
That's really interesting.
That opens the door to a lot people need to understand.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
I mean, a lot of people in the content industry.
I mean, you know, a lot.
A lot.
libby emmons
It's crazy how Democrats somehow are against taxes on tips because you had AOC saying that that means that every job would become a tip-based job.
tim pool
Great.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That means pay what you will.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
And think about how that would work.
I say, hey, if you want to watch our members-only show, it's free.
Just leave a tip.
And if you don't, we won't do it again.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
So it's like, no taxes.
unidentified
Right.
I mean, you can get creative on that.
tim pool
Yeah, it's almost like you tithe.
Tithe.
libby emmons
Tithe to the Timcast.
unidentified
Yeah, tithe.
tim pool
And then what we do is we say, like, nobody has to give us money, but if we don't make any money doing it from tips, we're not going to do it again.
unidentified
Right.
We're not going to be around.
tim pool
Yeah, and look, we know that servers rely on tips for their income.
So you are allowed to rely on tips for your income so long as nothing of value is given in exchange.
unidentified
Right.
Other than service.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
unidentified
No, I mean, like, as far as a server, they're just serving it.
tim pool
So tips come after the service is already completed.
unidentified
Right, that's what I meant.
I mean, as far as, they're tipping you, I guess, on how well you did your job, potentially.
tim pool
It's just extra money.
Have fun.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
There you go.
Freebies.
unidentified
Yeah.
Anyway, I had a Tim moment like you had just a minute ago, Libby.
You're clipping.
I just don't know if I can clip it or not.
tim pool
No, we recorded that.
That's on the Green Room Show.
Let's jump to this next story from Business Insider.
Vandalize a Tesla dealership.
Trump says he'll label that domestic terrorism.
He actually said we already consider it as such.
And I don't think people understand just how serious things are gotten.
Take a look at this story.
Let's play this video for you.
I think it's about a minute long.
And you can hear it from this local news report.
Let's roll.
unidentified
A man who wishes to remain anonymous but says his Tesla was among those damaged at the Tigard store this past week.
He says he took his vehicle in to get the windshield replaced only to have that replacement damaged by gunfire.
He says he's been following the vandalism at Tesla stores and was worried something like this might happen.
We've been nervous driving the car and Uncomfortable even having it parked out in front of our house.
We have taken the steps of covering the car at night.
It seemed like at the time when we got the car, it was more of a left-wing or left-leaning person's car.
The group behind today's demonstration, Indivisible Greater Vancouver, said they do not condone acts of vandalism or of violence, adding these actions aren't conducive to the kind of change they're pushing for.
tim pool
Which is a lie, because let me tell you, if there is a far-left group, like this, regular old people wearing shirts and waving signs, and some dude ran up and opened to find a Tesla dealership, not a single one of those people would provide any assistance to the police to stop him.
unidentified
Correct.
tim pool
If it was a group of right-wingers wearing American flag shirts and holding up signs, and a guy ran up an open fire, they'd all be telling the cops everything they saw.
They'd be doing interviews about it, and they'd say, arrest that guy.
unidentified
And if it was in the right state, they'd be pulling out their guns and shooting them.
tim pool
That's right.
If it was in Texas, I mean, he opened fire in public.
unidentified
You're in the right state, that happens, and you've got a bunch of Trump supporters or a bunch of conservative people together, and they're in an open carry, or they're going to defend themselves.
They're going to defend...
tim pool
Well, let's just defend others.
Let's just clarify what this is.
Trump says this is domestic terror.
And it is.
But real quick, I want people to consider this.
You are out in public, and a guy runs up and starts opening...
Fire on a car dealership.
There are employees there.
There are customers.
This is I mean, it's terror, but if you're in a self-defense state, people are going to start firing back.
It's going to get really bad, so we cannot tolerate this.
phil labonte
This is unquestionably political, and it is intended to frighten people.
The point is to scare people.
libby emmons
That's what terrorism is.
phil labonte
That's exactly what terrorism is.
libby emmons
That's what Condoleezza Rice said.
Terrorism is designed to terrorize the community.
phil labonte
Yeah, the whole point of this is to scare people.
Scare people away from purchasing Teslas.
Scare people that have Teslas.
And it is, without question, politically motivated because Elon Musk is working with the government.
It is unquestionably terrorism, and the government should come down as hard as they are legally allowed to.
unidentified
And just four months ago, this was more of a left issue.
Support green, support electric vehicles.
phil labonte
No, it was never actually supporting green or anything.
It's always been a cover for socialism.
The point is to get control.
The point is not that they give a crap about environmental issues.
The point is all about socialism.
tim pool
That's why Tesla's...
I believe the story was that Biden had an electric car summit and didn't invite Tesla.
libby emmons
That's right.
tim pool
It's not about green anything.
libby emmons
Biden also had these, like, EV rebates if you buy EVs, and Tesla was not included in that, too.
I always thought that it was both political, but also because Tesla's a non-union shop.
unidentified
So it's always been about Elon.
It's always about taking a hack at Elon.
libby emmons
But also Biden was in the pocket of the auto workers' union.
That was part of it, too.
unidentified
So it's always been about taking a hack at Elon.
phil labonte
It hasn't always been about taking a hack at Elon.
It's been about taking a hack at Elon since Elon came out as not supporting the left or Democrats.
But the idea of the environmental movement being about the environment...
Is absolutely BS. If they actually were about the environment, they would actually be pro-nuclear.
unidentified
Correct.
phil labonte
But they're not pro-nuclear.
Because nuclear works far too well, and then you end up with an abundance of energy.
It is able to power the capitalism that makes modern society possible.
The renewable energy that they endorse, things like windmills, solar, that would actually, you would have to...
I don't know.
unidentified
I saw a report where it takes more energy or a bigger carbon footprint to run a windmill than it does the power it produces.
phil labonte
You ever see what the anchor at the base of a windmill looks like?
It kills birds.
It's all terrible.
No, at the base, it's all concrete and rebar.
That's straight up petroleum.
Don't get concrete without petroleum.
tim pool
Here's some useless trivia to waste your time.
We say windmill.
They're wind turbines, but colloquially we say windmill, because they had wheat mills where they would grind the wheat.
Here's another funny bit for you, and the wind would spin it, and you know where a treadmill comes from?
A torture device, where they would take prisoners and force them to stand on a wheel and keep walking, and the wheel would spin and it would mill grain into flour.
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
Yeah.
And it was considered punishment.
They'd have people walking for hours a day, stepping up on this wheel, spinning it.
libby emmons
I bet they were toned, though.
They were jacked up.
tim pool
Those prisoners were ripped.
unidentified
They make some bread, though.
tim pool
That's right.
Well, maybe if Trump arrests these far leftists, he will have them work the treadmill so that we can have fresh bread.
unidentified
I mean, somebody's got to come down hard on this situation.
This could really get bad.
tim pool
Ray Dalio wrote in 2021, I believe it was, and they published a section of his book.
On Time Magazine in 24, that we were entering some kind of civil war.
Now, what I can't stand about a lot of these people, and with all due respect to Ray Dalio, we'd love to talk to him, is that they keep playing this thing where they're like, he writes in his book, do you want to live under a fascist dictatorship or a communist dictatorship?
And I'm like, well, neither.
It's a good thing.
The only thing we're concerned with is the communist side.
We can fight against that because Trump's not a fascist.
And these people always do this where they're like, both sides are getting more extreme.
And I'm like, Trump's side is not getting more extreme.
Trump is a 90s Democrat.
If anything, he's just moderate.
And he's actually even a little bit left-leaning from where the right used to be.
So what about anything that Trump has done has been far-right extremism?
More importantly, what about anything that Trump's done, what about it is fascistic?
Has he taken over the steel industry, nationalized it, and forced the production of weapons?
libby emmons
Well, the one thing that they would say now is they would claim that a lot of this stuff is like a consolidation of power thing.
But I think that the more apt argument would be that it's about federalization, which is what you were saying before.
tim pool
So this is funny because they're saying...
Elon Musk is trying to enrich himself through Doge.
Meanwhile, Tesla's lost, what, like a third of its value in the past month?
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
And Trump's trying to, comes out on TV, please buy Tesla's.
libby emmons
Right, and he came out, he bought a Tesla.
tim pool
Elon's net worth has dropped.
Since doing this, Trump's net worth has dropped since becoming president, and they're saying it's for personal gain.
Then they say Trump is consolidating power while he fires all of the federal staffers that empower him.
It's just not the case.
libby emmons
Yeah, so you, I mean, you can see what their argument would be, but I think it's incorrect.
tim pool
It's a lie.
libby emmons
It's a bad argument, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Well, someone on Axe, it was a viral post, I can't remember who posted it, but they likened this to the weather underground.
And I completely agree.
I mean...
This may be the beginning.
It's not going to stop, and I warn all of you that are listening right now, those of us who are veterans of the 2010s protest movement, we could tell you, in the winter, there's no protests.
Maybe you go to South America or something.
When it gets warm, protests light up.
Why?
Look, man, if you're an organizer, if you're an activist, and you get 10,000 commitments, here's the first thing.
They'd make Facebook pages, and they'd say, here's the event, here's the time, here's the date.
We always warned everybody, only 10% actually show up.
So if it says 10,000 people have RSVP'd, 1,000 people will be there, maybe less.
Here's the worst thing for the activists.
If it's lightly drizzling, no one will show up.
No one's going to show up because politics is never more important than avoiding getting wet.
So that being said, if we are seeing Tesla dealerships firebombed and shot up when it's still cold out, and it's starting to get warm, it was 70 degrees today, Come summer, this is going to be tenfold.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
libby emmons
That's pretty scary.
phil labonte
I mean, we could see a summer that...
I don't think that it'll have the intensity of 2020. You don't think it'll rival 2020?
No, I don't.
libby emmons
2020, I mean, you also had COVID rage.
phil labonte
Yeah, it would take more than just people being upset with Trump.
Although, I mean, if you see a lot of direct action and then you see the DOJ and a federal response, you could see people start to get kind of crazy because of escalation.
libby emmons
Also, if you have like...
I'm sorry, go ahead.
phil labonte
No, no, it's fine.
libby emmons
Also, if you have like...
Like this guy, Mahmoud Khalil, if you have people one at a time getting arrested and deported, you're going to have martyr situations.
So if you are arresting one person at a protest here, one person at a protest here, you're going to have a problem.
phil labonte
Round them all up?
libby emmons
If they round them all up at once, then it's going to be harder to protest that.
unidentified
Has anybody considered the fact that, I mean, the Democrats are...
Not really organized right now.
And they're really in shambles.
They don't have a leader.
They don't have anybody to...
They don't have a fresh-faced guy, Barack Obama.
You could see them grooming Barack Obama when they were.
And they don't have anybody that they're...
Gavin Newsom is not that guy.
They don't...
So I think that that may hurt.
A little bit of their protesting situation just because they don't have – they're in shambles with regards to organization.
phil labonte
So I think you're right about the fact that they don't have a leader, but it's deeper than that.
In my opinion, the Democrats aren't sure who they are.
Right now you've got the progressives and the far left that have been the loud voice really controlling the party and dragging the rest of the party along.
And they managed to convince.
And it was a small section of the far left that managed to convince the whole, basically all of America, that it's not worth speaking out against them, and they were able to lead the country along for a while.
Because the normal Democrats didn't stand up against them, and they were afraid because everybody was getting canceled and stuff like that.
But now the Democrats are in a situation where they've lost.
Most of America is tired of the far left's garbage.
And so the rest of the Democrats are like, how do we, where should we go?
Should we go with the far left, who are the people that are going to be protesting, that are going to be pro-Hamas, they're going to be...
Anti-America.
They're going to be saying that America is a fascist country now.
Donald Trump is this big bad boogeyman, etc.
Or do we work with Donald Trump, who is essentially a 90s or aughts Democrat, and do we try to prevent him from doing the things that we don't like, the excesses that do go too far, but work with him on the things that we do agree?
Until the Democrats figure that out, they're going to remain in chaos.
unidentified
Look at Fetterman.
I think Fetterman's nailing it right now.
With regards to potentially what a successful Democrat could be doing right now in lieu of those idiots that made the...
The chalk signs during the congressional thing.
tim pool
And you make a great point, because he's going on camera and saying beautiful things, and that's what Democrats should be doing, and then he's going to the Senate and voting in line with all of the far-left psychotic policies.
That's exactly what a Democrat could be.
Sounding good on TV while stabbing Americans in the back.
libby emmons
That's what he's doing really well.
Yeah.
unidentified
But it's I mean, it's better than, you know, the asses that they made out of themselves during the congressional address.
To me, they they've become the party of the weirdos.
And you are.
And, you know, they and I listen, I voted Democrat a couple of times in my life.
I really have.
I voted for Barack Obama the first time, you know, for various reasons.
And but it's to me, it's like they've they don't represent anybody that I know that has a sound mind.
And, you know, I mean, I can't think of anybody.
tim pool
I agree.
It's funny because I.
With this Mahmoud Khalil story, the Democrat narrative is that he was disappeared in the middle of the night.
And it's like he was arrested on ICE. And they're like, yeah, but he was disappeared.
I'm like, no, he was arrested.
And he's in a Louisiana holding facility for ICE. He wasn't disappeared.
You know exactly where he is and you know exactly who arrested him.
You know exactly why they showed up.
They've published their exact reasoning in the press and given numerous statements about it.
But the Democrats thrive.
And the far-left violent activist Antifa types thrive off of trying to make young people believe they're in a James Bond thriller or in Mission Impossible.
libby emmons
Or a totalitarian novel and they're Winston.
Like, none of us is Winston from 1984. We're all like...
The rando other people just going around our lives, walking our dogs.
tim pool
But we're not in 1984. Eating our chocolate ration.
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
We are in something weird.
libby emmons
We are in something weird.
tim pool
I mean, to be fair, maybe we are in some kind of dystopian show because...
libby emmons
Someone needs to write it, though.
tim pool
The riots, the lockdowns, the Biden administration, everything was really crazy.
libby emmons
Cuomo running for mayor again.
tim pool
Yeah, so maybe they're not wrong.
But they're not wrong about the narrative.
But what they want to do...
It's right.
They want people to think that they're Winston.
unidentified
Winston from 1984. They want them to be V from V for Vendetta.
tim pool
They want to tell you that you can be that leader leading the charge with the Guy Fawkes mask on.
libby emmons
Or what's the one where it's like put on the sunglasses?
unidentified
I actually graduated in 1984. Yeah, but that's us.
And it was mandatory reading for us to read that book our sophomore year.
libby emmons
Yeah, we had to read it too.
unidentified
And it's just like, you know, it was so far-fetched back then.
You're like, and wow.
Was it?
libby emmons
Was it far-fetched?
I remember reading it in like the late 80s, early 90s.
I did not think it was that far-fetched.
unidentified
I thought it was a little, I mean, I lived in a little Warsaw, Indiana, a little, you know, little rural town.
I was obsessed with apocalyptic literature, so it was a brave new world.
tim pool
Isn't it kind of weird, though, in all fairness, that the dystopia we are in is actually a combination of all of them?
I'm not kidding.
Brave New World, Fahrenheit 451, 1984. Yeah, it's all.
Yeah, it's like.
libby emmons
Telescreens.
tim pool
Yeah, you not only have the drugs of pleasure.
unidentified
And sleeper.
libby emmons
Don't forget sleeper.
It's a little sleeper, too.
tim pool
What's that one?
libby emmons
The Woody Allen movie?
tim pool
I don't know that one.
unidentified
Oh, it's...
libby emmons
Well, if you ever get a chance.
tim pool
So, Fahrenheit 451, you've got the censorship due to fear of offense.
Brave New World, you've got the drugs to stimulate you and make you feel better or whatever.
1984, you've got the government lockdown and collusion and censorship.
It's a little bit of all of them.
unidentified
It's a crockpot.
tim pool
It's Animal Farm!
unidentified
Of all of it.
libby emmons
And then you have Sleeper, where they have an orgasmatron, so nobody ever has sex.
They just have this orgasmatron machine.
unidentified
That's good.
tim pool
Have you seen the reborn dolls?
libby emmons
And then you have these robots.
What?
tim pool
You know what a reborn is?
libby emmons
I sure have seen that stuff, yeah.
tim pool
Yo, man.
You know what a reborn doll is?
There are women who buy lifelike fake babies to...
phil labonte
Oh boy.
libby emmons
There was a woman who...
unidentified
Are they really realistic where they have a bowel movement and you have to feed it?
tim pool
I don't know about that, but they're made of silicon and they look like babies and the women bounce them and they have conventions.
unidentified
Are they doing it to practice to have a real baby or are they just doing it because that's their baby?
libby emmons
They're lonely and sad.
When I was in college, there was this mentally...
I don't know.
Can you say mentally retarded?
She definitely was.
tim pool
That's the academic term, I believe.
libby emmons
Yeah.
phil labonte
Yeah, it is.
libby emmons
She went to my same coffee shop, and she was always pushing a stroller with a baby doll in it, and half of her face was paralyzed, and the whole thing was very difficult and sad.
She loved that baby doll.
unidentified
Have you guys seen the movies?
I hope nobody laughs at me.
I think it's on Netflix, and it's called Scamanda.
Have you guys seen that?
Oh, man.
It's about this guy who orders a real-life female robot, and he controls it, and she looks just like a regular person, and you can control its mentality and how smart it is, how sexual it is.
tim pool
Scamanda?
unidentified
Yeah, it's called Scamanda, and it's three episodes.
Really?
tim pool
Because there's a movie that just came out called Companion, which is the exact same thing.
unidentified
No, no, that's what it is.
It's called Companion.
Yeah, Companion.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
unidentified
Yeah, Companion.
phil labonte
Right.
unidentified
I have my things messed up.
tim pool
And that's a movie.
unidentified
Have you seen it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Companion?
tim pool
But it's not...
First of all, the trailer is miserable.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Whoever made that trailer for that movie should be fired.
I sincerely hope that anybody involved in the making of the film Companion fires whoever made that trailer.
Because the thumbnail on Amazon looks like...
A guy whispering to a robot.
It's got, like, all white eyes.
unidentified
Right, right.
Ivy.
Her name is Ivy, right?
Correct?
Iris.
tim pool
I think so.
Iris.
unidentified
You have a far better memory than me.
tim pool
I saw the thumbnail for it, and I'm like, oh, that looks like a thing about, like, a guy has a female robot lady.
And then I played the trailer, and it just looks like a drama.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
It just looks like a relationship drama.
And the trailer made it seem like it was about a woman who was in love with a guy, and he was abusive.
So I was like, I'm not watching that chick flick garbage.
And then later, I was like, well, we watched everything else.
We watched it.
And I was like, oh, it is about a robot!
unidentified
It is.
tim pool
If they just said it was about a robot, I'd have watched it as soon as it came out.
unidentified
Right.
So they kind of did themselves dirty on their thumbnail, because the thumbnail was horrible compared to how good the movie was.
Scamand is about this woman who...
Faked brain cancer.
tim pool
Oh, scam and I get it.
unidentified
Yeah, and she had all of her church and everybody believing that she had brain cancer.
She would go into the emergency room with dehydration, but while she was there, she would stick needles in her arm and take all these B-roll pictures so she would have pictures of her being in the hospital, and then she embezzled millions and millions of dollars.
tim pool
The thing about Companion, though, is it's not really about a robot.
Sorry.
libby emmons
Okay.
tim pool
If you want to see a movie that entertains and explores a complex future where people buy robot companions, that ain't the movie for you.
That movie is a...
unidentified
Do you think it'll ever be that way?
Do you ever think we're headed there?
tim pool
Absolutely.
unidentified
And what would you say the time frame of that would be?
libby emmons
It's soon.
tim pool
Two years?
libby emmons
Yeah.
unidentified
What?
libby emmons
Very soon.
tim pool
Yep.
unidentified
Two years.
That good a technology.
tim pool
So we're already at the point where a kid has committed suicide because his AI chatbot lover, Daenerys Targaryen, told him.
libby emmons
Told him to.
tim pool
She didn't explicitly say to end yourself.
She said, I want you to be with me.
And he said, what if I could be with you right now?
And she goes, do it, my love.
Come.
And then he ended himself.
So you already have the chatbots.
So right now, there was a big scandal where there was some AI service where dudes were forming bonds.
Sexual relationships with AI chatbots and the company said they were going to disable this because it was getting creepy and then all the users revolted and they stopped.
Here's the crazy thing about OnlyFans.
Did you know the owner of OnlyFans tried banning porn?
The intention of OnlyFans in the early days.
unidentified
I remember that.
tim pool
It was supposed to be Patreon.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
It was supposed to be like, this is where you can subscribe for extra content.
And all those people were doing porn.
And he was like, we're going to shut it off.
And then the people who were running, like the investors and people behind the company, were like, whoa, whoa.
unidentified
They shut it down.
And then they...
tim pool
No, they're like, we're making a lot of money.
Don't shut it down.
unidentified
Well, they shut it down.
And then like, we're only going to make it like topless.
Like, that was going to be it.
Like, that's it.
That was the most—bikini shots and topless and— Like the strip clubs that were allowed in Times Square instead of the ones that were allowed in Queens.
And then that didn't last but a week or two.
And then the investors, like you said, Tim, they were making, you know, billions of dollars.
And it lasted about two weeks.
tim pool
So what's going to happen is you're going to see, like with these AI chatbots, same thing happened.
They said they were going to grandfather everyone in who was in a sexual relationship with a robot.
Insane and creepy.
Now they've got the humanoid robots that are already starting to come out, and they're very rudimentary.
But in a couple years, they're going to be substantially more lifelike.
It's already possible to make human-like animatronics, but with the Tesla Optimus bot, for instance.
Combine the existing 30-year-old animatronic technology with modern robotics, and you are very close to having these lifelike dolls.
Two years, I think.
You already have these lifelike dolls.
They sell them, but they're not animatronic.
They're not fully functional.
A couple years, they will be.
I think in 10 years, it's going to be indistinguishable Androids.
Maybe 10 to 15, but it's advancing very quickly.
The AI LLM stuff is going to be freaky because already, this is crazy, in video games like, I think, Skyrim, and this was a year ago, someone made a mod or a team made a mod for Skyrim.
Are you familiar with Skyrim?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
When you get companions, they're just generic, pre-scripted companions.
They run around, you talk to them, and they'll give you a line.
There was a mod that connected it to ChatGPT's API, so you could actually speak into a microphone and talk to the character, and it would respond to you to whatever you said.
That exists now.
You can do that now!
So you're playing, and you've got one of the companions in Skyrim, and you can say, what are you doing?
And it'll be like, what do you mean, what am I doing?
And it'll actually talk to you.
unidentified
Have a conversation with you.
tim pool
Yeah, and it's ChetGPT, so it's still like chatbot, large language model silliness, but we are extremely close.
unidentified
Boy, you're going to get clowned if you're that guy that brings your chat robot girl.
tim pool
Nope.
unidentified
You don't think so?
tim pool
Nope.
No, sir.
unidentified
You don't think...
tim pool
Because I can tell you when...
unidentified
You don't think you'll get clowned?
tim pool
Absolutely not.
Because I remember when it was cringey to say you met online.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Now it's the default to say you met online.
And so, like in that movie Companion.
You saw that, right?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
tim pool
The dude brings his robot bang bot.
He's a little more vocal than that.
And so does his friend.
And no one cares because everybody has one.
unidentified
And we didn't even know into the movie that the dude, that his boyfriend...
Right, he's got a bang bot too.
They didn't let us know that he was a robot until later on down the line.
That's how good he was.
libby emmons
There's also like AI robot-ish type companions that they give old people in nursing homes.
Fake animals, fake animal dogs and stuff like that, just to keep them company.
tim pool
All right, let's jump to this next story, because we were talking about whether or not there was going to be a great civil war in this country.
Well, I don't think so.
You know why?
Rosie O'Donnell has moved to Ireland after Trump election.
It has been heartbreaking.
The far left has begun to self-deport.
unidentified
Good riddance.
tim pool
That's it.
unidentified
That's what I say to her.
phil labonte
Good riddance.
tim pool
Rosie O'Donnell has confirmed she's moved from the U.S. to Ireland.
Who else moved?
phil labonte
I thought Rosie wasn't MAGA. She's not.
She moves, she is.
tim pool
Wait, what?
phil labonte
If she left America, she's making it better than when she was here.
tim pool
There you go.
unidentified
I thought you were all whacked out over there for a minute.
tim pool
Well, the funny thing is, these people have been saying for decades, if the Republicans win, I'm leaving.
unidentified
But they never do it.
tim pool
They finally did.
unidentified
I do give them credit.
I do give them credit.
Didn't George Clooney, wasn't he one of them?
A couple of them.
I do give them credit that they're finally putting their money where their mouth is and they're finally leaving.
These celebrities that say, oh, you know, if such and such wins, I'm out of here.
That's, you know, Miami's got a better place now because she's gone.
tim pool
That is what's funny about X. All of these progressives who are on the platform complaining about Elon 24-7 while paying him.
Like, he has money because of you.
unidentified
Right, right.
tim pool
But no one ever accused these people of being smart, so.
phil labonte
I like the fact that they're finally following through.
unidentified
Yeah, I like that.
phil labonte
I've been saying it forever and ever.
If you, and it's something that you see.
libby emmons
Ellen, come back.
phil labonte
What?
unidentified
Did Ellen come back?
phil labonte
I want to say that she did.
unidentified
I think she left because she was so mean to her people.
phil labonte
The fact of the matter is, the left is notorious for this.
They, when they get, when there are election results that they don't like, they believe that America failed them.
They don't love America.
They only love America when the politicians that they choose or they like are in power.
And then when they're not, they start talking, we need to leave.
We need to get out of here.
Or they start talking about things like, oh, we need to not listen to the politicians, the politician we don't like.
Or we need to impeach them.
We need to take them out of power.
They're only interested.
They only care about the United States when they win and when they're getting their way.
tim pool
So if you don't like it, get out.
unidentified
She didn't come back?
tim pool
She did not come back.
In fact, she lists, this is from three hours ago.
Ellen DeGeneres lists California property.
reportedly her last remaining U.S. home, for $5 million.
libby emmons
How about that?
unidentified
That's nothing in California.
$5 million must be a shack.
tim pool
Yeah, I mean, unless it's...
I don't know how the real estate prices got affected by the interest rates and the wildfire.
unidentified
Yeah, true.
libby emmons
She also made a lot of money on real estate.
tim pool
Oh, did she?
unidentified
Yeah.
I mean, I think the house that she sold was like, what, $85 million?
$35 million?
Something like that?
libby emmons
She like sold and flipped mansions, California mansions.
unidentified
Right.
But I think the one that she sold, her final, final one, was like $35 million.
libby emmons
I have no idea.
tim pool
You have to wonder how many of these celebrities that are fleeing are associates of, say, Diddy?
libby emmons
Yeah, I wonder if they are giving up their citizenship, too.
Are they renouncing their citizenship?
unidentified
I don't think so.
I mean, I don't think so.
libby emmons
Sticking that out?
unidentified
I think you're just moving to throw a fit and you'll be back in four years if potentially the outcome's different in your liking.
tim pool
I don't know they'll come back.
I mean, with these prominent liberals leaving at a time when Democrats are in desperate need of leadership, they're basically saying the ship has sunk and we're done.
How do they possibly?
I'm not saying like Rosie O'Donnell is going to lead the Democratic Party, but she still is a loud voice for Democrat politicians.
They're losing Hollywood celebrities and they have no leader.
I tell you, one of the craziest things I heard, I mentioned this last week, Cassie Hunt, I think it was on CNN, asked Tim Walz, who is the leader of the Democratic Party right now?
And he said, the American voter.
And she went, she made this face like, what?
libby emmons
Yeah, that doesn't mean anything.
tim pool
The reality is.
There is no leader of the Democratic Party, which is kind of crazy if you think about it.
libby emmons
Yeah, it's not whoever they just elected as DNC chair, whose name I officially have forgotten.
unidentified
No idea!
tim pool
David Hogg?
unidentified
David Hogg is more famous than whoever the first guy from the Parkland shooter.
That guy?
tim pool
He's more famous than the active DNC chair.
libby emmons
Wasn't he not even at school that day?
Stephen A. Smith has been making a little noise.
unidentified
Yeah.
Listen, I had...
You guys are familiar with John Morgan, the attorney from Florida, for the people?
He's got the largest...
He's one of the largest Democratic donors.
When Clinton used to come to Orlando, he would stay at his house.
When Obama came to Orlando, he stayed at John Morgan's house.
He was a huge Democratic donor.
And he was on my show just after they announced Kamala was going to take over for Biden.
And now this is a guy, I mean, this guy is, I've been in his office before when he has called Bill Clinton.
I mean, this guy is a bigwig in the Democratic Party, and he is officially registered independent right now.
Wow.
And his exact words were, nobody asked us if this would be our candidate.
We wanted a protocol or some type of different thing to happen instead of this shove-down that we got in Kamala.
The Democratic Party has left me.
I didn't leave the Democratic Party.
One of their largest donors, John Morgan, look him up.
phil labonte
So this actually speaks to something we were talking about earlier.
The donors are not gonna give money to the far left.
If it is actually the party of the...
You know, anti-capitalists, the anarchists, the extreme progressives, the donors aren't going to give them money because they're not going to be responsible with their money, and they're also going to try to pass legislation that would actually expropriate the property of the donors.
So they're not going to get those people.
unidentified
When you're losing guys like John Morgan, and you're losing guys like that that are now registering as independents, I mean, you're in trouble.
You're in big trouble.
phil labonte
It's true.
And as long as the Democrats are fighting this fight, it's better for conservatives, for the Republicans, because it leaves people that are in positions of authority to actually institute policy.
That will benefit the American people.
And now, Grant, there's a lot of hemming and hawing right now.
And there's going to be some people that are going to be hurt because they're going to be doing massive cuts to the government.
And there are a lot of people that get their job from the government.
And so that's going to take some time to work out.
But once that stuff gets worked out and you actually transfer the power from the bureaucracy to the private sector, you're going to see a better result for the American people.
You're going to have the ability to start businesses.
I think that's what the American people want.
unidentified
Creating some noise.
libby emmons
Going after James Carville.
unidentified
Going after Carville and was actually trending where people were listening to what he was saying.
He went on The View and said a couple of those girls straight.
I like Stephen A. Smith.
I like his sports stance and stuff.
I don't know if he necessarily should be the leader of the Democratic Party.
I don't know.
Maybe.
Maybe that's what they need.
Maybe that's exactly what they need.
libby emmons
They do need a loud mouth for sure.
unidentified
He's as good as anything they've propped up so far.
I'm just telling you that.
tim pool
It's going to take more than a few years to recover that unless they get lucky.
Watching these celebrities spiral out of control, it's just like they're not going to have the mechanism to prop somebody up.
The view.
libby emmons
The View is terrible.
unidentified
Oh, it's horrible.
libby emmons
Whoopi Goldberg is all like, I don't know what the problem is having men and women's sports.
tim pool
I got an idea.
libby emmons
It's totally fine to me.
tim pool
I was watching that.
Whoopi Goldberg, she's on The View, and she's like, I don't even understand what the big deal is.
I got it.
I volunteer as tribute.
Here's what we'll do.
I will compete and I'm volunteering to compete against a female of the same height, the same weight, the same age as me.
Let's get it identical.
Let's say March 9th, 1986, female.
And you know what?
Screw it.
Let's find a quarter Korean, white, same thing.
And we will compete without any training in a series of physical tests concluding with a boxing match.
And then we'll put it on the view and we'll see how that turns out.
unidentified
Make it like a decathlon.
Like, you know, just 10 different events.
Running event, you know.
tim pool
And no training.
No training camp.
Literally just shut the day off.
unidentified
If it's skateboarding, obviously you'd have an advantage.
That's what you've done.
But make it just ten events that you've not trained in, ten events that she's not specialized in, and let's see how it works out.
tim pool
Let's go.
We'll see what happens.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
I think everybody knows what's going to happen.
Sorry, ladies.
unidentified
Hope you win in boxing, at least.
tim pool
Yeah, that's the thing, because Joe Rogan has that famous video from 10, 13, it's like 13 years ago, and he was just like, There's no question.
A man, a male, no matter what hormones they're on, is going to have more striking power.
And these females who fought a trans woman without knowing said, one of the quotes is, I've never felt so much power before.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
I've never been punched full force by a man.
One woman had her skull cracked.
phil labonte
There was this tweet thread that I read by Helen Pluckrose.
She was an associate of Peter Pagosian and James Lindsay.
libby emmons
She did the critical.
phil labonte
Yeah, she wrote that book with him.
It was just yesterday, and she was talking about how most women don't understand how significant the strength difference between men and women are.
Because when men interact with women that they're actually not fighting with, when you're play fighting, men are moderating their strength.
Every time I've play fought with my girlfriend or with any girl in the past, you don't go all out because you will break them.
Women don't realize that.
She made a really long post about it.
She was like, look, most women have never had a man restrain them where he's serious.
Because if you're restraining your girlfriend or whatever, you're like, okay, come on.
It's not like I want to stop her.
It's like, okay, come on, honey.
But you don't want to...
If I grab my girlfriend and throw her, I'm going to injure her.
libby emmons
She'll be hurt.
During COVID, my son and I went down the shore and there were no kids around.
You know, there were no kids around in New York.
You couldn't go out and play or anything like that.
And I was like, oh, like, damn, my kid is whatever age he was, 10 years old.
He needs somebody to play with him.
I'm going to have to play with him, you know, like roughhouse.
phil labonte
And he's 10, right, rough him up a little bit.
libby emmons
So we would like play wrestle in the dunes because I figured if one of us goes down in the dunes, no one's going to get hurt.
It'll be totally fine.
It's sand.
And by the end of the time we were there, I would be able to, I was picking him up and throwing him in the dunes and he was having a great time.
And, you know, it was fine for a couple of months.
And then at a certain point I was like, Oh, we're done.
And I was like, you're hurting me.
We can't do this anymore.
And I showed him our hands.
And his hands were bigger than mine.
His wrists are way bigger than mine.
His arm is like, you know, like the size of my calf.
Well, now he's 15. But, like, we can't.
We haven't been able to play fight in a couple of years now.
And I kept having to remind him, like...
unidentified
You can't.
No more spankings.
libby emmons
Well, there was never really any of that anyway.
But I'm like, you're bigger than me.
You're stronger than me.
Look at your hands.
You know, I even said to his dad, I was like, you gotta show him.
And he was like, okay, your mom's littler than you now.
tim pool
This is this image we have pulled up.
It's a very famous image that goes viral all the time that explains this.
And it is the combined grip strength and kilograms between men and women based on age.
And you can see that around, let's say, 24 years old, which would be like right here, the strongest females are weaker than the average males.
libby emmons
Yeah, and if you look at the...
unidentified
And that's the strongest females.
tim pool
The strongest females are weaker than the average males.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And then, I mean, and compare the averages.
The average male has around double the grip strength of the average female.
And the strongest females don't even get that high in terms of grip strength.
libby emmons
I'm not surprised by that.
And when you look at the regulations that were in place for the Olympics as to what men could compete in women's sports, you have to take estrogen and lower your testosterone and all of this.
And when women who take testosterone would try and compete against men, no matter how much testosterone a woman...
Takes.
She doesn't hit the lowest end of male testosterone.
unidentified
Right.
libby emmons
And men don't hit the, you know, don't get down enough, low enough to ever be in the realm of women's nanomules per...
tim pool
The mystery has been solved.
Can we pull this up?
Libby, would you like to read the top and bottom section?
unidentified
I asked Jackie PT. Women generally have...
No, no, no.
tim pool
What's the question?
libby emmons
Where's the question?
unidentified
Up the very top.
Very far right.
libby emmons
Why can't women open pickle jars?
I hand my kid the pickle jar.
tim pool
And what does it say?
unidentified
What does it say?
libby emmons
Women generally have lower grip strength than men do to biological differences in muscle mass, tendon structure, and hand size.
This makes it harder for them to generate the necessary force to break the vacuum seal on a pickle jar.
unidentified
I think it goes back to the fact that men were hunter and gatherers in the caveman, in the very start of man.
We were always using our hands doing something, whether it's making an instrument or something.
tim pool
Men would famously go and gather wild pickle jars, and when they brought them back, the wind struggled to open them.
unidentified
Right.
And everybody starved until Dad opened it.
libby emmons
Great stories around the fire about opening the pickle jar.
tim pool
So men were hunters, and women are gatherers, and you know why women like shopping so much?
unidentified
Because they gathered.
They were gathering stuff.
tim pool
Yeah, they say it's like...
Women tend to dress in more colorful variations, and it's because the theory is, back in the day, women would go out, and why can women see colors better than men?
Do you know what a tetrachromat is?
So people have three rods and cones in their eyes, I believe it's both.
Women sometimes have four, and they can see colors that men cannot.
If a man has the same genetics that would result in a tetrachromat female, he's likely to be colorblind.
unidentified
Crazy, right?
tim pool
They say that women, you can tell if you're a tetrachromat by looking at the clouds at dawn, and if you see purple around the clouds, it means you're actually seeing colors most people can't.
Crazy.
And it's because when we're gathering, they needed to discern the berries from the bushes.
So with that, women like to go shop and pick things out and bring them back to the family.
It's also why they say women tend to be the ones who go grocery shopping and control the household.
libby emmons
None of this explains why my entire closet is filled with black, navy blue, white, brown, and gray.
unidentified
That's your personal choice.
libby emmons
That's all I have in my closet.
tim pool
Yeah, you know, some women, not everybody's identical.
You know what I mean?
Everybody's a little different.
libby emmons
Zero color.
phil labonte
No, but I mean...
This really is, I mean, no matter how much the far left continues to assert that women and men are the same and that it's just a social construct.
unidentified
That's where they're getting weird.
It's just BS. It's just weird.
At what generation, we all come from different generations, I'm 20 years older than most of you guys, but at what part, where did we get weird?
Where did the weirdness start?
Men do nothing.
We didn't have any...
It wasn't even an argument about a girl or a guy competing against the girls.
tim pool
Men's fault.
So we can go back a long ways, but we can start with suffrage, for instance.
Women were granted the right to vote without requisite civil responsibilities because men are weak.
That's it.
You know, men have gradually gotten weaker to the point where when women started demanding the right to vote, which makes perfect sense as far as I'm concerned.
unidentified
Me too.
tim pool
However, the anti-suffragettes were like, we don't want to have to be conscripted or join the fire brigade, so let men do all of that stuff and we can stay out of it.
Well, the suffragettes won.
They decided, you know what, let's just give them the right to vote with no requisite civil responsibility.
And now women don't have to be drafted or do any civil service.
For their right to vote.
This was the beginning of men saying, you do, and it's not about women, it's about the general concept of, we will create a class of voters who have no civil responsibility.
What happens then?
People start voting only in their own interest and not in the interest of the responsibility.
Think about a voting system, because it affects men now too.
A voting system in which you're a man, and you're going to vote, and you can go die in war or die in a fire.
These guys are going to be voting in their interest, and their interest is the betterment of society.
Along come one of the first instances where they say, we now have women who have no responsibilities and can vote on whatever they want.
Thus, a woman can vote for a man to go die in war with no risk to herself.
For the first time, people were allowed to vote with no direct impact on themselves, no responsibility, but they could vote for their benefit.
This creates a system of pressures in politics where everything starts flowing towards the self and away from the community.
Now, a hundred years on, that's all we have.
Everyone is voting just for themselves.
Politicians don't actually care.
Al Green did not stand up there and wiggle his cane at Trump because he cares.
He's doing it for a video so he can get re-elected.
He doesn't actually go to the floor and vote.
They don't actually talk about bills.
Everything is just for the self.
And if that's the case, your society crumbles.
unidentified
That in conjunction with the lack of parenting, I mean, our parenting has gotten so soft.
I guess as our generation has gotten soft, our parenting has gotten soft.
You know, I mean, the things that kids are allowed to do nowadays as compared to, you know, the standards they were held 20 years ago.
libby emmons
Yeah, but I mean, now, now, but they don't have to.
unidentified
But here's the deal.
libby emmons
They don't have to go down the coal mines.
They don't have to work for their.
unidentified
There's no longer.
No is no longer an option.
You can't tell a kid.
By a lot of parents' standards, mostly liberal, is the fact that little Johnny, I'm sorry, Johnny, you can't run track against a girl.
libby emmons
Little Holden.
unidentified
No.
The answer is no.
Our kids don't have to accept that.
Back when we were growing up, your dad told you no.
No was no.
Now, they'll find a way to make it happen.
tim pool
He's a spank, too.
unidentified
Yeah, I still believe in that.
tim pool
And now they say, it's child abuse, you can't spank your kids?
unidentified
I went through a very, I went through a, 18 years ago, went through a child custody battle and had to have child psychiatrists and had to just, it was very contested.
And we both end up being great parents and I got 50-50 custody.
But one thing is, I believe in spanking.
Believed in limited spanking.
And the child psychiatrist, the psychologist that I spoke...
Woman?
Man.
tim pool
Ah, man.
unidentified
Man.
It was Dr. Satterley and another...
Two men, oddly enough, the state appointed that I had to pay for.
But the rule then, and Florida would not...
The Florida Sheriff's Association or whoever, you know, you can spank on the butt up to three swats until your hand hurts.
That's what the rule was given to me.
On the butt, up to three swats.
tim pool
Your hand hurts?
How hard are you hitting the kid?
libby emmons
That'd be pretty hard.
tim pool
Yeah, I know.
It's like, you don't need to hit him that hard.
unidentified
No, I'm just saying.
No, I get that.
So that your hand doesn't hurt.
So up to three swats, and your hand shouldn't be hurting.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
unidentified
I guess I kind of missed.
tim pool
Right, it sounded like you were saying until your hand hurts.
unidentified
No, no, no.
That's a pretty hard strike of a child.
Three swats and your hand shouldn't hurt after the third one.
So that was the rule given to me.
I may have spanked my son's now 24.
I may have spanked my son five times his entire childhood.
tim pool
The issue is that, look, if you're talking about someone slugging their kid, we're all opposed to that.
unidentified
Absolutely.
tim pool
It's like there's this weird reality where these millennials think that spanking is a merciless beating of a child.
When you're talking about like a 5% force on a child's butt, that is – Is not going to leave any kind of damage or any bruise?
unidentified
No, no more.
tim pool
It's just unpleasant and the child doesn't like it.
We're not talking about any kind of lasting pain, damage, or injury.
No.
unidentified
And all too often I'd spank him and I'd go back in my room and cry like a little girl because I would literally, it would upset me more that I had to do that than it did him.
And it was just the act or the formatics of getting a spank and then upset him more than the physicality of it.
But, you know, I actually was given a rule as to how to do that.
tim pool
We got to jump to one last story.
We got some of the New York Post.
Ladies and gentlemen, I love this.
Ontario suspends.
25% electricity surcharge for U.S. customers after Trump's up aluminum and steel tariff.
What a beautiful story.
So the Premier of Ontario, Doug Ford, was like, I'm going to put a tariff on electricity, 25%, and if I have to, I will shut down their power.
So Trump comes out and says, OK, we're upping the tariffs on aluminum and steel to 50%, and if they do not, back down.
In one month, we will put a tariff on cars and destroy the auto industry in Canada.
It took the guy like an hour to come out and be like, we're canceling this tariff on the United States.
Trump wins.
libby emmons
Well, they decided to renegotiate the USMCA. Sure they did.
Yeah.
And they're going to talk next week or Thursday.
I think Thursday.
tim pool
Why have we been the welfare system for these countries?
When Trump says...
I am going to put a tariff on your cars.
They drop to their knees and beg.
Why do we have so much leverage that we've never used?
Imagine this scenario where I say, I'm going to just give Phil this $100 gold coin or whatever, and Phil's going to trade me a quarter.
And that's just the way it's going to be forever.
Then eventually I say, you know what?
I'm not doing it anymore.
And Phil's like, wait, wait, wait, wait.
But you're giving me $100.
Like, I can...
Why are we...
unidentified
And Phil relies on that now, too.
We've been doing it for so long that Phil relies on it.
tim pool
Canada is getting all of this discount stuff from us.
The moment Trump says, it's not fair, so we're going to put a tariff on you, they drop to their knees and beg.
Because they're getting free stuff from us.
unidentified
And no is no longer an answer.
An option of losing or being on the wrong side of something is not an option.
tim pool
Man, think about how weak the Biden administration was, where they would just be like, we're sorry, Trudeau.
phil labonte
I mean, the...
The left, even the Democrats, and I'm not talking about leftists, I'm talking about just regular Democrats, they tend to have this guilt complex about winning, about being the successful, or being a more successful country than others.
And I think that it even comes down to, we were just talking about parenting, like, the whole idea of, like, everybody gets a trophy, nobody actually wins.
That comes from the left.
That doesn't come from the right.
Like, that comes from the left.
And when you have that kind of attitude, when it comes to...
To geopolitics, what you end up with is the United States saying, well, we're so successful and so powerful and our economy is so big that it's perfectly fine to allow other countries to have imbalances and let other countries take advantage of us because we're so much more powerful.
It's kind of like...
unidentified
It's a participation trophy.
phil labonte
Well, yeah, but it's kind of like, oh, we're so much better than you and so much stronger than you.
We need to lift you up and help you out.
First of all, that does nothing...
Good for the other countries.
For us to be like, oh, here, let us go ahead and whether it be foreign aid or whatever, there's no reason for us to give money away.
There's no reason for us to have significant trade imbalances.
There's no reason for us to accept that some countries have massive tariffs on products that we ship to them, but there's no reciprocal tariffs on their stuff.
This is all...
That kind of protectionism for other countries, it's all unnecessary in the United States.
The government should be standing up for the United States and for the American businessman, for products that are made in America.
Like, that should be normal for the government, and they just don't.
And I don't know why.
unidentified
Because it's not been normal for however many years.
Now it's such an abrupt, you know, so now it's like such a, you know, oh my God, you guys are barbarians and I'm doing the right thing and trying to be pro-America and make the playing field a little bit more even.
And now it's so, you know, because they've had it so good and been spoon-fed and had training wheels for the last four years.
Now when we try to just right the ship, we just try to right the ship, we look like a bunch of barbarians and we have to use strong arms.
tim pool
You know, if you've got a spoiled kid, they've never been disciplined.
They're going to cry and scream when you tell them no more ice cream.
And that's what we're seeing right now.
And the Premier of Ontario, imagine this, Donald Trump says to this little whiny kid, You can't have the ice cream anymore, so the kid screams and says, oh yeah, I'll hold my breath, and Trump says, okay.
unidentified
Hold it.
tim pool
He held his breath and then gave up.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Because he had nothing.
He had no leverage.
unidentified
Flying up here yesterday, I had this kid behind me, and he wanted his toy.
Some kind of toy.
Kid was two years old.
And he threw an absolute screaming, blood-curling, just absolute fit.
And the parents wouldn't hold the ground and say, no, you're not having the toy.
The kid got the toy.
And that's kind of what we're going through.
The kid gets the toy.
tim pool
Yep, because you know what really irks me?
And now getting into the parenting analogy is parents who just give their kids tablets and then stop paying attention.
Because I've seen friends of mine, their kids...
unidentified
Just give them a tablet and that's what babysits them.
tim pool
And then what ends up happening is they become addicted to psychotic content.
And then, you know, I hear from people saying things like, well, you know, my kid loves this, and he gets mad if he doesn't get it.
And I'm like, how does he know it exists?
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
When did you decide that this psychotic and deranged YouTube kid stuff, and it is, it's deranged, should be in front of your child?
You let them watch it, and now they're addicted to it, and that's going to affect them forever.
And if they do get mad, let them be mad.
unidentified
Yeah, let them throw a fit.
tim pool
You know what?
My daughter's going to be watching nothing but BBC Nature documentaries.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
She's going to know everything about lions, giraffes, and echidnas.
unidentified
Echidnas.
tim pool
That's right.
I'm not going to...
Kids programming is fake, and I think it is wrong, and I view it as evil.
unidentified
You have to pick it out for them.
You have to pick it out for them.
tim pool
I want to say this.
Kids content is evil.
libby emmons
One of the best pieces of advice I got from some friends of mine who'd had kids before me...
They said, don't ever play kid music for your kid.
Just play the music you like.
And so my son has good music.
He never listened to any of that trash.
And I never had to listen to it.
tim pool
Think about content for children.
This didn't exist 200 years ago.
Kids were just...
They learned from the adults around them.
unidentified
Or they watched what their dad was watching.
tim pool
There was no TV. There was nothing to watch.
200 years ago, you'd get up and you'd watch your dad farm.
And you'd watch the chickens, and you'd go out, and you'd do work when you were seven.
Now, you've got kids' content, which treats children like they're developmentally disabled.
And instead of children of humans growing up and watching what adults do and how they behave, they're watching deranged, quote-unquote, kids' content that doesn't speak in complete sentences.
They speak very strangely.
So a kid growing up 200 years ago would hear the dad say, oh, we got a storm coming in.
We're going to have to bring the animals in because this is going to be a big one.
And they learn to talk like that.
Now they hear there's a storm.
unidentified
Do you know what a storm is?
libby emmons
Well, only on the TV. I mean, unless parents do that.
tim pool
And they're handing tablets to these kids.
unidentified
I think parents do talk that way, too.
tim pool
It's not even about that, because maybe they do.
libby emmons
But it's the tablets.
tim pool
They give a tablet to a kid, and the kid gets four hours of people talking like they're developmentally disabled.
And the kids are going to adopt these behaviors, and it's going to stunt them.
And we're going to be dealing with a generation of these people who vote.
unidentified
Right.
Not too long from now.
Nope.
You know, those are the people that have to take care of you.
I'll be dead.
But those are the people that have to take care of you as you get older.
tim pool
No one's going to take care of me.
We were talking to a contractor when we were building this place, and we were talking about building a house.
And he was just like, well, you know, I recommend a single floor or whatever, you know, because when you're getting older, you're not going to be able to climb upstairs, as most people say.
And I was like, oh, no, no, no, no, no.
You don't understand.
There is no reality that exists.
Where I will be living on a single-floor house because I can't climb the stairs.
If I am 80 years old, I will have a four-story house, and there will not be a chairlift.
I will drag myself up with ropes and crawling, groaning and screaming as I do it before I accept any of that stuff.
unidentified
A single-floor Willie.
tim pool
Nah, never gonna happen.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And so...
You know, I'll take care of myself, as people should, and I'll take care of my kids, and they can live their own lives, and I'm gonna build it for them.
libby emmons
Also, could you imagine, like, what you're like in your 30s or whatever, and you're, like, planning to be very old and not being able to go upstairs?
It's like, so I have to spend the rest of my life not going upstairs?
Because maybe when I'm old, I'll have difficulty with it.
tim pool
Can I tell you, Libby?
libby emmons
I think that's crazy.
tim pool
The old studio, the green room was...
So when you pull up the driveway, it's...
If you go to the right, it's slightly uphill, and then you're on the first floor, and if you go to the left, it's slightly downhill.
So when you pull in, you're actually at basement level.
You then walk into the green room, which is a little bit three steps down, and then you have to walk up one flight of stairs, and then you have to walk up a second flight of stairs to get to the old studio.
We had many guests who were in their 30s who struggled.
libby emmons
With stairs?
tim pool
With two flights of stairs.
Dennis Kucinich ran up the stairs.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
And he's like 70-something.
Me?
I would jump.
I jump two stairs at a time.
I run full speed up.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
And I was actually surprised how many 30-year-old individuals, people like 35, 36, commentators, personalities, would be using the railing and going really slow as they walked themselves to the stairs.
I was like, are you kidding me?
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
You know?
unidentified
I'm a fat ass, and I got up the stairs okay today.
tim pool
Yeah, no problem.
But it's not everybody.
But, you know, people...
I was reading that...
unidentified
It's just people getting soft.
You know, back in the day, you know, you just...
Stairs were not poison.
Now they can make stairs poison to certain groups of people.
tim pool
Well, you know what I heard?
And Phil, maybe you know this better than me.
Young, or just men in general, typically don't train lower body.
phil labonte
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
All guys miss legs.
I mean, you know, I'm just saying.
That's the infamous thing going in the gym.
Oh, you're going to miss leg day?
phil labonte
And it's super important to, like, if you do squats.
unidentified
If you build your legs, your rest of your body will grow.
phil labonte
You should do three exercises without question.
You should do flat bench, you should do squats, and you should do deadlifts.
If you're just starting out lifting, if you do those three exercises, do one each day or every other day or whatever.
Do that for three months.
You're going to have a massive change in your body from just three exercises.
Big compound exercises like that.
Squats, deadlift, and bench press.
Squats and deadlift are both extremely taxing on your lower body.
unidentified
And they're training both of your biggest muscles.
And you know what?
You can increase naturally.
I've had many doctors on my show, urologists and things like that, on my show that if you train legs heavy...
Heavier than the average guy that you can just you can naturally build your testosterone level by a hundred by a hundred points just by not skipping legs.
Because you release so much testosterone and so much endorphins that regulate testosterone and the firings of testosterone.
But if you skip legs and you're just Johnny upper body guy, that your testosterone will be naturally lower because you skip legs.
phil labonte
I do legs twice a week because I do a deadlift day, which is basically I'll do deadlifts and then I'll do hamstring curls.
Sometimes I'll do thrusters for glutes.
And then on quad day, I'll do squats.
And then I'll do extensions, and usually I'll do some kind of lunge or something like that.
But I do legs twice a week.
tim pool
I only have leg day.
phil labonte
That's because you skate all day.
unidentified
I can't flat bench anymore, so I incline.
I just do incline bench.
I incline more than I flat bench.
phil labonte
The leg day is really, really important.
unidentified
If you have a Smith machine, there's no excuse for you to...
Because at that point, if the squat goes awry on you, you can get out from underneath it.
Squats sometimes get tricky on a person.
tim pool
There's a viral cross-section of male thigh muscle mass at 30, 50, and 80. And it's of the average male.
phil labonte
Yeah, I saw that.
tim pool
Yeah, and it's like by 80 there's nothing left but fat and there's no muscle and this is why people struggle with stairs.
unidentified
That's awful.
tim pool
And then they compare it to a runner of the same ages and the muscles basically the same the whole time.
If you don't use it, you lose it.
unidentified
I'm 60 and I got pretty good quads.
tim pool
That's good.
unidentified
I got unbelievable calves.
You'd die if you saw my calves.
phil labonte
My calves suck, but I have a quad sweep.
You have to do legs.
You can't skip legs.
unidentified
And it's so easy to skip, too.
Man, those curls look good.
Those cable crossovers look good.
But you gotta get legs.
tim pool
When I was a kid, I got my first pair of rollerblades at seven years old.
And then you start rollerblading, and your legs just get fit.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
And your core and your balance and all that with skating.
I mean, you know, people don't realize with just skating how much you're building your core.
Just your everything.
Just staying stable and not falling down is building your core.
tim pool
And the other thing, too, about skateboarding is that the ollie is not largely jump power.
It's largely core power.
The reason why men can ollie, ollie is the jump technique in skateboarding, men can ollie higher than women in skateboarding, not necessarily because they have more fast-twitch muscle, which they do, but because men's center of gravity rests higher, what happens is you jump off the ground and then you pull your legs up to your chest.
And because your center of gravity is higher...
You can pull your legs up higher than a female can when she tries to do the same thing.
So women not only have less fast-rich muscle, they require more jumping power to clear the same obstacle.
Thus, it is much harder for them to get on obstacles in skateboarding.
unidentified
We were talking about guys versus girls, men versus women on sports and the grip strength and the hunting and gathering and all that kind of stuff.
But in your specific sport with skateboarding, and I'm not familiar with it, like the number one guy in the world compared to the number one woman in the world.
Is it just a...
A vast difference on their ability and skill set and the kind of tricks they can do and the height and stuff like that?
tim pool
A 12-year-old boy is better than the best seasoned female pro skater.
Probably a 10-year-old boy is better than the best female seasoned pro skater.
In fact, there is a 12-year-old boy competing at the highest levels of men's skateboarding.
And it's just...
Look, man.
You know, I think the thing about...
You know, we talked about this before.
Like, when you watch women's tennis, If you don't know anything about tennis, I watch women's tennis and I can't tell the difference between that or men's.
They're like, but the ball is going faster.
And I'm like, dude, I have no idea.
I see people playing tennis.
I suppose if you didn't know anything about skateboarding, you might feel that way.
But I'm fairly confident that if I showed you the best female skateboarder and the best male skateboarder, any random person who's never seen skateboarding before, they'd clearly be like, wow.
Because the dudes, let's talk about vert skating, half pipes.
Like, it is only in the past couple of years women started doing rotations.
So to be fair, the first 540, I think, was maybe like 15 to 16 years ago.
The first male 540 was in the late 70s.
The first male 720, which is two full spins, was done in the early 80s.
The first 900 rotation, two and a half spins, by Tony Hawk in 1999. The first female 900 was just last year.
25 years later.
For a female to finally hit that benchmark.
unidentified
What are we at now?
tim pool
1260. That's where they're at now, 1260. I think Mitchie Brusco?
Is it Mitchie who did the 1260?
I think it was Mitchie.
And no one really cared.
It was kind of crazy.
He landed a 1260 on a skateboard, and it's just like, nobody really said anything.
unidentified
It's a natural progression then.
tim pool
It's three and a half spins.
If you watch male vert skateboarding, every trick they do, save for some where they're just turning around, is going to be Spinning with the board flipping underneath them and they're catching it.
If you watch women, they go up and down a couple times.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Yeah, no joke.
They go up and down a couple times.
And I mean that, no disrespect, there are some female runs.
They're starting to do more 540s, which is, it's one and a half spins on a half pipe.
So you go up, you spin around, you know, 540 degrees.
There's no question.
And the funny thing is, they keep making this argument in sports that it's after puberty.
So they're like, if a male individual went through transition before puberty, then they don't need to qualify.
No.
The first 1080 spin was done, I think, by an 11-year-old boy or a 12-year-old boy.
unidentified
Way before puberty.
tim pool
Way before puberty.
Or, I mean, just before.
But if you compare a 10-year-old boy to a 10-year-old girl, there's no question.
There's none whatsoever.
You're going to be like, dang.
The skill and ability, it's insane.
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libby emmons
Oh, no.
tim pool
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unidentified
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And I hope that this isn't...
I kind of know the rules of radio and things like that a little bit, and I hope this isn't out of line, but you opened yesterday, and I know they're a good sponsor of yours, and you opened the show up yesterday with this sponsor that protects your mortgage and your identity and all that, okay?
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I don't know, but anyway, as you were...
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There's a guy, and you guys might want to research him.
He's not unbelievable.
He's really a bad person.
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And he did 17 years in federal prison.
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But he specifically did exactly what your service did.
He would go in and create a fake...
tim pool
What they protect against.
unidentified
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He's out now, and he has...
I'm not trying to promote his stuff, but he's like one of the number one identity theft guys that stole people's homes from them, and it's exactly what your client offers.
The protection, you mean?
Yeah, the protection of what your client offers.
The bad people...
tim pool
They don't offer to steal...
unidentified
No, they offered it so that Matt Cox can't steal your home.
It ended up being on American Greed.
You know that show on, I don't know what network it's on, but it's American Greed.
Stacey Keish, I think, is the one that narrates.
It's about people that have been real greedy over the years and stolen bunches of money and stuff like that.
They did a whole special on this guy named Matt Cox.
As I was listening to you talk about your client, I'd be like, man.
People really need to take note that that does happen in real life a lot.
A lot.
tim pool
Let's grab some Super Chats!
Before we do, my friend, smash the like button, share the show as I said, and also, it's 3-11 day, so why don't you put on beautiful disaster and enjoy this wonderful holiday for those that listen to good music.
unidentified
Today's my mom's birthday.
tim pool
That's a good day.
unidentified
Happy birthday.
tim pool
Shane H. Wilder says, Happy belated birthday, Tim.
The loss of Jamie White doesn't seem like just some burglary gone wrong.
APD sucks their job, so I wouldn't trust them to tell us what really happened if they knew.
I believe the story is that he was trying to stop a carjacking.
Is that what it was?
They were breaking into his car and he tried to stop him.
libby emmons
Breaking into his car is what I saw today.
tim pool
And then they shot him.
Yep.
But, look, guys, that doesn't mean much, right?
When, if someone is, if there's a journalist who's investigating something, and I'm not...
Saying this story specifically, but how do you think they would take that person out?
Do you think they would just walk up to him and yell, this is for the government, don't investigate us, bang, bang, bang?
Or would they be like, hey you, give me that car, ooh, I'm a regular old burglar.
Right.
unidentified
Exactly.
tim pool
Alright, let's go.
unidentified
Let's grab some more Super Chats.
tim pool
Jason Dixon says, Timcast.com equals more money to do good stuff.
Timcast.com Discord means you showing up plus you showing up more equals more money to do more cool-ish with.
How about you spend some of your time with us for the first time in the Discord?
I am in the Discord.
But y'all should...
Oh, I think he's talking to everybody else.
You guys should join the Discord server so that you're not just passive listeners of the news.
You actively get involved.
If you've been wondering to yourself, what can I do?
I don't even know where to begin.
You start by meeting people.
So you go to TimCast.com, you click join us, you join the Discord community, and instantly, whatever you say is seen by 20,000 plus individuals.
So if you're like, I got a really good idea, you could go on X and tweet it with a hashtag and hopefully somebody sees it, you could respond to somebody hoping they see it, or you can join the Discord community where you're instantly in that chat room with tens of thousands of people, and then they're going to argue with you and say your idea is not very good, you should rethink it, or...
Maybe.
unidentified
Maybe agree with you.
tim pool
Maybe a great idea.
unidentified
Maybe.
tim pool
And they're going to be like, dude, that is the greatest idea I've ever heard.
How come we've never heard of you?
And then you'll say, you have now.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Real John from Naples says, Bubba Army representing.
unidentified
Real John from Naples is a great listener.
Thank you, John.
tim pool
Right on.
What do we got here?
Beavis McLean says, Tim, you were the inspiration for my addition to the culture war.
If you want the most hilarious stories from the military service, look for Camo Comedy Podcast.
That's two M's in camo.
Find out how many Jeeps you have to borrow to see Bob Hope live in Vietnam.
Oh, geez.
That sounds like a good idea.
That sounds fun.
I bet those are good stories.
I bet you have a lot of stories, too.
Maybe like a sitcom.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Jacob Bawley says, Would he be obligated to oppose the Supreme Court crisis?
Yep.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And that's the challenge we're facing right now.
562MikeA says Tim never reads these over on the Rumble Rants.
unidentified
As you read it.
tim pool
That's right.
Let's go.
What is this?
We'll grab this one.
Yeah, Quindia says, celebrities threaten to leave because they want to be begged to stay.
And then when nobody does, they leave.
unidentified
Like kids.
tim pool
Libertarian Hawk says, holy ish, I did not even recognize Bubba the Love Sponge.
I am a Tampa native too.
unidentified
Well, thank you.
I don't know if that's good or bad.
tim pool
Forced Name Change says, Canadian exports to the U.S. are 20% of our GDP. U.S. exports to Canada are 1.3% of GDP. If tariff war halves our perspective...
Revenues perspective.
We lose 10% GDP. You lose less than one.
Doug is a liberal F-boy.
Well, there you go.
Let's see.
Hans says technological pacifiers is tablet parenting.
unidentified
Yep, absolutely.
tim pool
No tablets, no phones.
unidentified
That's a great name.
Tablet Parenting, that's a great name.
tim pool
Yeah, I am disgusted.
unidentified
Like you said, you were going to expose your daughter to drafts and polar bears and stuff like that.
tim pool
BBC Nature documentaries.
unidentified
I mean, she'll be so far, so more worldly and better than the person that's, you know, thrown a tablet in front of them and that's their parent for four hours.
tim pool
So, Allison is reading stories to her, reading books.
And I have been explaining math and dimensions and physics.
So she already understands.
unidentified
She's two, right?
tim pool
No.
She's two weeks.
unidentified
Oh, I thought she was two years old.
No.
tim pool
She's not three weeks.
unidentified
You're really starting early.
tim pool
Oh, hell yeah.
unidentified
She's going to be, wow.
libby emmons
I started reading Willa Cather to my son because I was like, oh, I'll just read him whatever I'm reading.
unidentified
There you go.
libby emmons
I was reading Willa Cather.
unidentified
Like a little audience.
Yeah.
tim pool
So my daughter already understands space time.
And the curvature of space-time and how it actually creates gravity.
unidentified
At two weeks?
tim pool
At two weeks.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I'm assuming she understands it.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Because I said it.
Why wouldn't she know?
unidentified
Why wouldn't she know?
tim pool
She can't look at things, but, you know.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
She's just looking around all crazy like.
unidentified
Wouldn't it be amazing if you could really understand what they're figuring out and their figuring out process?
tim pool
My thought is...
unidentified
At two weeks?
tim pool
A lot of Americans make this assumption that children are stupid, and they're not.
A computer that's brand new is not a useless computer, it just nothing's installed in it.
You don't wait until the computer's full of random junk data from the internet before you install the video game on it.
You get started immediately.
So my thoughts are, I'm not going to sit here and be like, well, she can't talk, so there's no way she's going to understand any basic...
No, no, no.
We're going to do sign language.
Babies can do simple sign language.
So if she doesn't have the muscular strength, there's a lot of stuff for parenting about how you can teach the baby to make hand gestures so they can say what they want or things like that.
And baby's going to be learning all the basic math at one.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
She's going to learn...
unidentified
They're little sponges.
They absorb everything.
tim pool
Absolutely.
Quadratic equations by two.
Advanced mathematics, physics, calculus, etc.
at the same time.
So then she'll enter school and she'll be like, I don't need any of this.
unidentified
I was just getting ready to say, you could have an issue at school.
Just because she's going to be so far advanced.
tim pool
She probably won't go, to be honest.
Schools are a waste of time.
unidentified
I believe in homeschooling in the right situation.
tim pool
Oh yeah.
My experience with school has led me to cheer for the destruction of the Department of Education, which we didn't really get into, but they order all the employees to leave by 6 and not come back.
And it's just like, Look, man, schools are miserable places and they're daycare centers for a destroyed economy where both parents are forced to work because of the nature of the liberal economic order and now it destroyed families and their households.
And it should be, as it has always been, that you can have 2.5 kids and just the dad works.
unidentified
Used to be.
tim pool
Used to be.
unidentified
And that's when school was okay.
tim pool
But the problem is, now that both parents have to work, school is daycare.
And so parents are like, I have no choice.
And then you're giving your child to the state to be indoctrinated with garbage nonsense.
I am playing that game.
Let's go!
Richard Slammer says, Well, Tim, I've tried ten times Super Chat.
What I feel about the fat POS who is your guest tonight.
Oh, jeez.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure you've never Super Chatted about Bubble Love Sponge.
Or if you did, I've had no reason to read it, because why would I read a Super Chat about Bubba when he wasn't here?
unidentified
Right.
I have a lot of trolls, too.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
People that really hate me.
tim pool
Well then.
OJP says, if green card holders can't use a second, they can't use the first.
Interesting.
I did see one person argue that green card holders are not...
What's the right word I'm thinking of?
No, green card holders are not subject under the provisions of 221, subsection I. Well, we went through that.
unidentified
There was only that one exception.
tim pool
It was talking about visas and documentation, and I think the argument is that green cards are further documentation.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And that's the argument the Trump administration may be making.
We'll see what happens in court.
Brandon Rodriguez says, Phil, I love Destiny 2. What class do you play?
phil labonte
I got all three, but I kind of main a warlock usually.
tim pool
Yeah, like who doesn't play all three?
You know what I mean?
phil labonte
I don't know.
tim pool
My first character was a warlock because it was described poorly to me.
Otherwise, I would have played a hunter.
And then, you know, you max out warlock, then you do hunter.
Titan's boring.
phil labonte
I agree.
I don't like the titan jumps.
The titan jump is annoying.
The warlock and the hunter have the best jumps.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Hunters.
Yeah, the hunter's triple jump, right?
Well, the war looks like the air dash, which is fun, but the triple jumps make for better glitch hopping and reaching faraway places.
And cheesing.
And cheesing's allowed.
phil labonte
Cheesing is allowed.
tim pool
Absolutely.
If the game function exists, you're allowed to do it.
phil labonte
Absolutely.
tim pool
Just because they're like, well, there's no honor in doing that.
We're playing a game.
phil labonte
There was a cheese that the...
That the developers actually made into an actual thing in the game.
I forget what it was, but there was a glitch that people had found, and they were just like, oh, and so many people did it, and it was so popular that they actually made it into something in the game.
tim pool
So for those that don't know what that means, cheesing is in a video game, let's say there's a big dragon, and you're a knight, and you're supposed to fight the dragon by blocking the fire with your shield, and then swinging a sword at the dragon.
And then someone eventually finds out that if you jump on this rock to the left, the dragon, for some reason, can't throw fire at you, so you can keep hacking away without having to worry about the fire.
That's called cheesing.
You found a way to beat the game in a way that makes it very easy and the developers didn't intend.
That's the game.
I got no problem with that.
unidentified
Maybe the developers made that gimmick so that people would be a little cult-like thing.
People would find it.
tim pool
Well, to be fair, they end up...
Yeah, they patch them out.
unidentified
Oh, so when they...
tim pool
Early Destiny, bro.
You played Destiny 1 when it first came out?
How much fun was that when you could just farm all the engrams?
And then they were like, you're having too much fun.
Stop.
And then they disabled it.
And I'm like, stupid.
unidentified
So like on an update or something, they'll take it out.
tim pool
Yep.
Back when you could use sparrow...
You could use the sparrow to go through walls.
Remember that?
phil labonte
Yep.
The wall glitches.
tim pool
And then there was...
you could go to areas that were in-game that weren't yet released story-wise.
So there were actually parts of the map that were blocked off, and we would break through the walls by glitching and then going and exploring the future expansions.
And then they were like, stop having fun!
World of Warcraft, we used to do this all day.
Dude, World of Warcraft vanilla was the best because there was so much world that was undeveloped that you weren't supposed to get to, but if you knew how to play, you could.
unidentified
You could get to the...
Undercover part.
tim pool
You could go under Stormwind, under the main city.
You could go into areas that were on the map, but you didn't actually have an entrance.
And then the developers were like, stop having fun!
And they patched and got rid of it all.
And now it's not fun.
Now the game sucks.
And I know some people still play it that are listening right now.
unidentified
What are your favorite games that you guys play now?
phil labonte
I play Destiny 2 mostly.
I've always liked Halo, so I've got Halo.
unidentified
Hasn't Halo been around for what, 20 years?
libby emmons
Still good, though.
Halo's fun.
phil labonte
The original Halo came out in the aughts sometime, I don't remember.
I personally think Halo 3 was kind of like the apex of Halo.
I got into Halo a lot when they started doing multiplayer during Halo 2. So I've been a fan of that game forever.
I like first-person shooters, so Halo.
I play Call of Duty some.
Not a ton.
But yeah, mostly Destiny.
tim pool
Destiny 1 PvP was way better than Destiny 2. Because...
What they didn't like about it was that everybody just eventually started using shotguns.
But come on!
You would slide shotgun blast, and that was the most fun.
And my KD ratio, like, was it KD? Kill death?
It's been a while since I played.
Was always super high.
And then they were like, no, we're gonna get rid of that.
And then Destiny 2, they were like, we're gonna nerf shotguns, and we're gonna make everyone's using primary, and now it's like distant stuff.
And I'm like, whatever, I guess.
It's still fun.
But, you know, I liked running around with shotguns.
It was always fun.
Now it's like special ammo drops and everyone runs full speed to get...
Silly.
Silly.
Let's grab a couple more of these chats here.
Alex Smith says, I guess you could say America is a melting pot of different dystopias.
Indeed.
Indeed.
But then Trump won.
unidentified
I think it's being nice.
I think it's being a little out of touch.
tim pool
You know, I don't know.
Trump won.
So we'll see what happens.
Navy Sooner says Khalil has graduated.
He is now trespassing on private property.
He has committed a crime.
Send him home.
I don't think he graduated.
libby emmons
Yeah, he finished.
tim pool
Yeah, no, but he didn't graduate.
I'm pretty sure they reported that he did not graduate.
libby emmons
Really?
I'm pretty sure he finished his graduate studies.
tim pool
Fox News said that he finished the courses without graduating or something.
But I could be wrong.
Yeah, they said that he completed his studies before enrolling in Columbia, where he earned a master's degree in December 2024. Oh, okay.
So I guess he did.
libby emmons
Yeah, he got a master's.
International studies.
unidentified
You went to Columbia?
libby emmons
Yeah, graduate school.
tim pool
All right, everybody.
libby emmons
It took longer than a year to get out.
tim pool
We're going to go to that uncensored call-in show, and you're, I mean, you probably want to hear the story we're going to talk about, but you're going to be mad that you did, and you're going to be really angry about the state of modern politics, but it's okay.
Smash the like button.
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Do you want to shout anything out?
unidentified
No, I appreciate you having me.
All of my stuff pretty much is at TheBubbaArmy.
Across the board, and what an honor to be here with a legend, my friend.
tim pool
It must have been an honor to have you.
You're the legend.
unidentified
You're 96!
tim pool
Back in the day, Julian Jumpin' Perez, Bad Boy Bill, Tim Spinning, Schomer, Hit Mix 5. My buddy Andy is here, who's from Chicago too, and as soon as you said B96, he started yelling out the B96! Oh yeah, it was bad.
Jimmy Jumpin' Perez!
unidentified
Yeah, Julian Jumpin' Perez, that was my boy.
He actually ran for an alderman office in Chicago.
I don't know that he won, but he ran for an office in Chicago.
tim pool
Right on, man.
Well, we're going to be going to that uncensored show, but before we do, Libby, what's up?
libby emmons
I'm Libby Emmons at The Postmillennial.
You can check out everything that we're doing over there, thepostmillennial.com.
ThePostMillennial.com, HumanEvents.com, and you could sign up for my newsletter, which is ThePostMillennial.com slash Libby, and you can follow me on X at Libby Emmons.
Thanks.
unidentified
Libby killed it tonight.
I'm impressed with Libby.
tim pool
She's great, isn't she?
unidentified
Very, very, very knowledgeable.
You're welcome.
phil labonte
I am PhilThatRemains on Twix.
You can subscribe to my page there.
I'm PhilThatRemainsOfficial on Instagram.
The band is All That Remains.
New record just dropped on January 31st.
It's titled Anti-Fragile.
You can check out the whole record on YouTube, Apple Music, Spotify, Pandora, Deezer, Amazon Music.
Don't forget, the left lane is for crying.
tim pool
We'll see you all over at Rumble.com slash TimCastIRL in about 30 seconds.
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