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Democrat ACTBLUE In CHAOS, Theories Over DOGE Cutting SLUSH FUND Go Wild w/Hotep Jesus | Timcast IRL
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tim pool
So the Elon Musk guy, right?
He sends in these doge fellers into USAID and other government agencies and starts gutting the funding for what seems to go to a lot of these weird NGOs.
We speculate much of this funding was probably circulating in Loudoun County and just outside of D.C. and Maryland.
Then we get this other really big story.
Lee Zeldin, now in the EPA, says they've uncovered a $375 billion slush fund run by John Podesta.
This is a Democrat guy.
And that there were some non-profits that just got started within a month.
One month later, they received a $7 billion grant from the government.
They've since frozen this money.
At the same time, there are searches all over D.C. for criminal lawyer, fraud, and I'll be light here, but let's just call it self-harm.
People are deeply worried in these areas for some reason.
A big story popped up yesterday.
ActBlue, the subject of, let's just say, scrutiny among Republicans and investigators, people like James O'Keefe.
ActBlue is the fundraising machine for Democrats.
James O'Keefe uncovered over the past several years instances where elderly individuals had reportedly made hundreds of thousands of donations they couldn't possibly have made.
Questions arose around how is it that ActBlue was...
Claiming these things are legitimate, actually facilitating these payments.
I mean, some retiree couldn't have spent $700,000 in one year doing 17 donations per day.
That makes no sense.
Now, we don't know exactly what's going on.
We are waiting for the results of that investigation.
In the meantime, while all of this Doge stuff is happening, it may just be totally unrelated, but the New York Times runs a story about how ActBlue is facing internal chaos and is struggling to continue losing several, seven, Specifically, top officials.
Instantly, the internet erupts with theories that this money, these slush funds that were making these weird donations, were effectively running a circuitous money laundering scheme, which, let's just say, somehow found its way into the pockets of the ActBlue system to Democrat politicians.
I am not saying that's true.
I'm not saying we know for sure.
I'm saying basically that's the degree of speculation we're seeing because all of this is going on at the same time.
I think that's an important disclaimer.
We're going to take a look at this story and a bunch of other news stories.
And we got one that's really interesting.
Apparently, AOC had employed an illegal immigrant, and they've since fled the country.
So this is actually pretty interesting.
And then you've got a few other stories, but you have the big push from Ben Shapiro and the Daily Wire to get Derek Chauvin pardoned at the federal level.
Trump has responded, saying, I haven't heard this.
And that was it.
Yet, strangely, the media is running a narrative.
About Derek Chauvin, despite the fact that Trump hasn't engaged with it, and they're claiming Trump has issued a verdict on whether he will or he won't, saying he wouldn't, but Trump never said anything.
So we'll talk about that and a bunch of other stuff, my friends.
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Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to talk about something.
I had a conversation with Dr. Malone and Del Bigtree after we wrapped the Culture War show this morning about the next big play that's going to hit the media in the next couple of years.
And the gist of it was, I outlined the tactics being employed right now and the errors being made on our side of the media battle.
That will ultimately end up with mass bannings and will get us shut down.
So the people who think the free speech battle is over because Trump won, because Mark Zuckerberg made these statements, I'm telling you, you're wrong.
And we'll get into this.
We will.
My response was Rumble has to win.
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So we're definitely going to talk about this because, guys, I made one simple statement to Dr. Malone, and you know he's the expert.
And he immediately said, you are completely right, and I don't understand why we're not seeing action.
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I can't just – it's basically having to do with how these YouTubers are selling ads as it pertains to the FDA. I think we're going to see a wave of bans come the next couple of years, and we're going to talk about that on the show later on.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we've got Hotep Jesus.
hotep jesus
What's up, bro?
Thank you for having me, man.
Grifties, March 29th.
You coming to the show?
Shane Cashman is presenting.
We got Milo presenting.
Is it in D.C.? It's in Jersey.
It's in Jersey Tips Comedy Club.
We're having the Grifties.
We're going to crown Grifter of the Year.
We got Milo.
We got Shane.
We got Alex Stein.
Oh, wow.
We got Alex Stein and Milo.
So, yeah, it's going to be a spicy one.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
tim pool
Maybe we have to be there, yeah.
There was some I'd say yes, but with the recent addition to my family, Like, basically, I'm not even...
hotep jesus
Congrats, man.
tim pool
I appreciate it.
hotep jesus
Yeah, you got a little boy, right?
tim pool
Little girl.
hotep jesus
Little girl?
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah, Allison's working very, very hard, and so I'm not going to go out and just...
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
But we'll see what happens by then.
I think maybe we'll be good.
hotep jesus
It's tough.
It's tough when you have...
tim pool
It's good work.
hotep jesus
It's fun, though.
tim pool
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Cherish these years.
unidentified
Absolutely.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
We're having fun.
We just watched...
We hung out on the couch today in between shows.
Got to stay there and...
She was making gurgling sounds.
It was enjoyable.
hotep jesus
Yeah, once they start moving and talking, it's not as fun.
tim pool
Well, man, thanks for hanging out.
It's going to be fun.
We got Brett hanging out.
brett dasovic
Guys, it is Brett.
Normally on Pop Culture Crisis, Monday through Friday at 3 p.m.
Let's talk about politics.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band, All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
Let's go.
tim pool
Here's the story from The New York Times.
Act Blue.
The Democratic fundraising powerhouse faces internal chaos.
At least seven senior officials have left the group, setting off deep concerns about its future as it confronts scrutiny from congressional Republicans.
I'll say two things to start.
The first, there's a theory that with the gutting of USAID and other federal funds, a lot of these grants, especially the EPA slush fund that Lee Zeldin uncovered, a lot of this money is believed by many.
Whether or not there's any veracity to this, that it was funneling around NGOs and finding its way into the pockets of Democrat politicians.
That may or may not be the case.
At any rate, the other thing to consider is, definitively, ActBlue, which is the Democrats' fundraising arm, is in chaos, indicating a very, very...
Let's just put it this way.
The likelihood that they're able to muster up any forces in the midterms is decreasing, especially when we're learning that the mechanism they use to raise money...
Is under fire.
And then I'll say this.
On Fox News today, it was, I believe, Cassie Hunt who asked Tim, I believe it was Tim Waltz, one of the best questions I've seen anybody ask the Democrats in recent memory.
She said, who's the current leader of the Democratic Party?
And you know what Waltz said?
The American voting public.
And she made a face.
And I said, whoa.
And then I stopped and thought about it.
I want to ask you guys just right now and everybody listening.
Who is the leader of the Democratic Party?
brett dasovic
I think you asked that question, like, one or two times ago when I was here, and I had no idea.
I think Hakeem Jeffries seems like the most reasonable.
Like, we were talking about how before...
tim pool
Hold on, hold on.
I'm sorry, sorry.
I gotta pause you.
Not who is projected to be.
Literally right now.
Like, we know the head of the Republican Party is Donald Trump.
brett dasovic
Well, even before Trump did his address to Congress, right, and Hakeem Jeffries asked everyone, he's like, please don't bring props.
Please don't bring props and make a fool out of yourself on national television.
And then they all went and did that.
It's like he was the only person who had a sane thought in the matter.
tim pool
So the question, I believe the answer is there isn't one.
hotep jesus
I disagree.
phil labonte
You think there's a leader?
hotep jesus
Who did Henry Kissinger say is the perfect person to usher in the new world order?
phil labonte
Don't know who.
hotep jesus
Barack Obama.
brett dasovic
I think that's what I said.
Honestly, that's what I said last time.
hotep jesus
Barack Obama running the show.
tim pool
And I'm going to disagree.
When Obama was president, it was not abject chaos.
Things weren't falling apart.
ActBlue wasn't crumbling.
There was no mixed messaging.
The Democrats obstructing the State of the Union, not State of the Union.
Was a gift to Republicans.
So unless Obama's plan is, I'm going to make the Republicans more powerful, then he's not a leader of the Democrats.
And if he actually is running the show, he's the poorest leader we've ever seen, which flies in the face of when he was actually president.
brett dasovic
Isn't it weird how we...
Oh, go ahead.
tim pool
You can argue he was...
hotep jesus
My theory is that they bombed the last election on purpose because I don't believe in...
I know it's a uniparty.
You can't pull the wool over my eyes.
But my theory is that they're actually burning down the Democratic Party to make the right-wing party stronger to bring about a different type of fascism.
tim pool
Maybe.
hotep jesus
And these sweeping changes that you're starting to see, the technocracy, etc., etc.
tim pool
Let's read this tweet from Charlie Kirk.
He says, The New York Times reports that ActBlue is in turmoil.
Mysteriously, seven top executives have all left in the past three weeks.
Several of whom had all been there more than a decade.
None of them will explain on the record why they left.
The last remaining lawyer at ActBlue's general counsel's office has been locked out of his email and put on leave after sending internal messages that, quote, we have whistleblower policies for a reason.
Two unions representing ActBlue employees are openly questioning the group's stability and call the situation alarming.
They're demanding the hiring of an independent investigator.
More than $16 billion has passed through ActBlue in the past 20 years.
What could they possibly be hiding?
Well, we've got a couple stories to give examples.
We have this.
From October of 2024, Treasury finds hundreds of transactions linked to fundraising platform ActBlue flagged by banks.
GOP memo.
Interesting, but I don't know that so.
Then we have this.
From the Daily Signal.
Where does the money come from?
Elderly Democrats say donations made in their name aren't genuine.
From January 8th, 2025. Now, this story actually goes back quite a bit.
When James O'Keefe exposed numerous instances.
Where individuals were making some, what, 5 to 10 donations per day of $20 to $25 to the tune of hundreds of thousands for the year that made no sense.
The Daily Signal says, 18 registered Democrats in Connecticut all over the age of 70 appear to have donated $1.9 million to Democratic causes, including ActBlue, through hundreds of thousands of small donations from 2016 to 24, according to a review of FEC filings.
by Dominic Rapini, a cybersecurity company CEO and former Connecticut Republican candidate for office.
Curious about the donation patterns, Rapini tracked down some of the Connecticut residents and asked that they really did make thousands of small donations, sometimes multiple in a day through ActBlue.
Several of the supposed donors told Rapini they did not make any of the reported donations, nor did they know anything about how their names were being used.
An 88-year-old retired Yale University professor, for example, supposedly made 7,539 donations for a total of $213,163, according to FEC records.
After Rapini informed him about the significant donations in his name, he signed an affidavit saying, quote, I believe this does not reflect my donation frequency or dollars I have donated.
Now, I'll just say this.
The story goes on.
James O'Keefe uncovered something very similar, if not the exact same, but just in different places.
Kash Patel and Pam Bondi, this should be their target right now.
If you've got a man signing a sworn affidavit, I did not make these donations, then you've got money laundering going on, and that's a fact.
brett dasovic
Is there not a way for them federally to look into the bank accounts tied to who made the donation?
Because obviously the name is attached, but if the name attached doesn't correspond with the bank account, is there a way to check into that?
tim pool
I think maybe this is why, well, the theory is, and this is all just opinion, I have no idea, ActBlue is crumbling because with a new DOJ in town, namely a Cash Patel, the people at ActBlue are running as fast as they can.
But you don't think so?
You think it's one big machine?
hotep jesus
Well, I think some of the stuff you said is absolutely spot on.
Right.
So when we're dealing with the Democrats, it's going to be a lot of fall guys.
tim pool
Yep.
hotep jesus
OK, a lot of people are going to go down who had orders from somebody else.
And, you know, Sharon, Lisa, Tanisha is going to take the blame.
We saw that happen in New Jersey.
Was it New York?
Some dude goes down.
For, you know, some scammy stuff that Democrats are doing with the votes, etc., etc.
But, at the end of the day, you know, I understand how the world works, okay?
I understand how the Western Empire works, okay?
There is a pendulum that swings from left to right, okay?
And we've seen this time and time again throughout history, okay?
The left has gotten way too strong.
It's gotten way too out of hand.
People are...
Pushing back against the leftist style, you know, the trans stuff, all of that stuff, right?
So what happens?
You swing things back to the right.
Now, I saw this happening because you saw the media started to come in a little bit more centered.
I don't know if you guys know that, but...
brett dasovic
Well, even Jeff Bezos, he's getting the Washington Post to open up opinion columns about free markets, things like that, even though the fact that Bezos and Zuckerberg have historically were going very much the other direction when the winds were blowing the other direction.
unidentified
Right.
hotep jesus
And then you got Zuckerberg coming out.
He dressing like a rapper now.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah.
You can't fool me.
So you start, and all these guys are popping up, you know, next to Trump, et cetera, et cetera.
So we're starting to see this swing to the right.
And there's a lot of assistance that's happening from the Democratic Party to help that move along.
You saw the canon of Jay Reed, Joanne Reed, I call her Jay Reed.
Got rid of her.
Then they brought the new black lady in there.
She's way more centered and makes more sense.
It's not so fringe.
You got Stephen A. Smith.
Stephen A. Smith is doing conversations with her.
brett dasovic
He's got a huge contract extension with the addition of allowing him to talk about politics.
phil labonte
Don't you think that the swing of the voters has an effect on this?
I feel like the results of the election, considering how many...
Counties went for Republicans versus how many went for Democrats, which is...
I don't think they picked up any counties.
I think the Republicans picked up something like 20 counties nationwide or something like that.
And winning the House and winning the Senate.
Don't you think that that has an effect on why they're doing this?
hotep jesus
Yeah, but I mean, can you give the voters that much credit when you got a dead body as a president?
And an idiot as the person that ran?
And she didn't even...
She didn't even get the votes to run.
They just installed her and said, oh, you're going to be the nominee.
Like, there was no...
phil labonte
Well, if it was something that it was...
hotep jesus
There was no competition, is my point.
There was no competition.
The Democrats had nothing.
phil labonte
Yeah, but I don't think that that's because...
I don't think that's by design.
I think that they didn't have any leaders that were actually compelling to run.
That's why they went with Biden.
hotep jesus
Well, they didn't go with Biden.
They got rid of Biden after the primary and all of that, and then they installed Kamala.
That was a terrible idea.
phil labonte
It was trash.
What I'm saying is that's why they went with Biden in 2020, because they didn't have someone that was a standout leader that was clearly going to beat Donald Trump.
hotep jesus
Well, I think they got Biden because they couldn't get—he was familiar.
He was already in the White House.
You can get the Obamas to get behind him.
The black vote wasn't going nowhere because they already knew it was Biden.
That's their guy.
phil labonte
But doesn't that imply that that's the vote that's doing it and not like...
hotep jesus
Yes, but the vote can be manipulated.
Not only through the Ag Blue stuff, right?
But the voting can be manipulated just based upon perception.
If you take somebody like Kamala Harris and you run her and they ask her a very simple question.
You know, what could you have done better?
This is a question you get when you apply for McDonald's.
You got to be ready to answer that question.
And she can't answer that question.
When they ask you and they say, yo, what's up with the president's mental health?
And you sit up there and you lie.
Everybody knows there's something wrong with the dude's brain.
So you get up there and you lie.
You can give the voters some credit, but...
phil labonte
Nobody's actually gonna vote for that.
tim pool
Real quick, I gotta be honest.
When they asked Kamala on The View, they're like, what would you have done differently if she legit said, I think I would have kept the fries in the fryer for about 20 seconds longer?
I'd be like, that's an answer.
Instead, she's like, nothing.
hotep jesus
Nothing.
You can't do that, right?
brett dasovic
They have no introspection whatsoever, which is why things keep falling off a cliff.
phil labonte
Yeah, I agree with that.
hotep jesus
That's why I feel like they just threw the fight.
tim pool
I agree.
hotep jesus
I think they threw the fight.
tim pool
I think...
brett dasovic
I still think they would have won if they just ran Biden.
Brain dead, no.
I don't think so.
There was people that, like, before the election, there were people the day before Googling, like, is Joe Biden still running?
phil labonte
If they had...
Look, if they had the votes, they wouldn't have the disarray they have now.
hotep jesus
There's two factors, okay?
The prices of things...
Actually, three factors.
The prices of things, the dead body in the White House, and the fake black lady.
One, two, three, you out of here.
tim pool
We did talk about this on the show.
When we were asking, why are they running with Biden?
Why are they running with Kamala?
And one of the potential scenarios was, they know they can't win no matter what they do.
So they're saying, don't waste any potential lineup we would have in the next 10 years.
Throw out a dead body and just see what we get.
brett dasovic
Wait, so then why don't you, if they don't think they can win with Biden, why don't they just keep running him?
hotep jesus
Well, here's the thing.
The reason why they ran Kamala is because of celebrity influence in the black community.
They were like, if we can pretend that she's black.
Then we can put on a fake facade of a campaign.
brett dasovic
And they went super hard with it right away.
hotep jesus
And they went super hard.
They got the booty shaker twerking on stage and all of that stuff.
So they were able to get some of that celebrity.
BET, for the first time, held a Black Men's Summit.
BET, I can't remember the last time they cared about black men.
They held a Black Men's Summit.
I'm like, what is this?
tim pool
Not only that, to address what you said, why would they switch out Biden?
They put Kamala on the national stage and propped up for Democrats, and now there's rumors she's going to run for governor in California.
So they said, Biden's out.
There's nothing left in that.
You can't get blood from a stone.
However, we put Kamala on the stage.
She's going to lose, but it'll raise her profile.
Then she runs for governor in California, which is two to one Democrat.
She's going to win.
brett dasovic
Okay.
Makes sense to me.
phil labonte
I mean, I still...
I still feel like the reason that the Democrats are in disarray, the reason that things are going on at ActBlue, not just because the Republicans won and you got people like Kash Patel, but it's because they have no leadership and they have no leadership because they don't know what their platform is anymore.
They have totally abandoned the working class.
They're not supporting middle America.
They're the party of the extremely wealthy and the extremely poor.
And they use those two groups against the average American, and they browbeat them with identity politics through multiple different ways, whether it be sexuality.
Yeah, I mean, all of it, basically.
Like you were saying yourself, when's the last time BET had a black man summit?
They don't like men.
The Democrats hate men.
And that's, you know, it's something that's fairly obvious.
tim pool
So I want to jump to this story because it expounds upon the subject.
This is from Newsweek.
Gavin Newsom's podcast remarks sparks backlash from Democrats.
Gavin Newsom knows what he's doing.
You mentioned, Phil, that the Democrats don't have a platform anymore.
Gavin Newsom is, and I bet they discussed this a year ago, after Trump wins, assuming he does, we need to start rebuilding a Democrat identity and who's going to be in charge.
And as we were mentioning in the previous segment...
You mentioned MSNBC is bringing a new, more moderated Democrat.
Stephen A. Smith can talk politics.
Gavin Newsom sitting down with Charlie Kirk.
They are trying to realign.
They're going to moderate.
Now, the big play here, obviously, Gavin Newsom is getting backlash from Democrats.
They're probably going to come after me.
I say they, the Democrat machine, the political machine, the bureaucratic state is going to come after me hard for this segment we're about to do right now.
One of the biggest things that big mistakes are being made right now by the independent space.
They don't have standards and practices.
They don't have legal teams.
And the corporate press may have...
Here's what I think.
I'll give you a simple story.
Joe Rogan started to emerge with the Ustream show.
It got very popular.
Podcasts became prominent.
And the corporate press overlooked this.
If they wanted to stop the podcast presidency, they needed to make the move eight or nine years.
Before it actually happened.
Once Joe Rogan and many podcasts got as popular as they did, they lost control.
They tried censoring.
They shut down Paul Joseph Watson.
They shut down Laura Loomer.
They shut down Alex Jones.
But it still wasn't enough.
Audience were still flocking to this new medium that they did not invest in enough nor censor enough.
So what happens?
They start to realize, guys, we're going to lose this one.
So I think you're correct in that approaching 2024, they said, let's not waste any of our resources.
However.
Many people on the right have made tremendous errors in not actively paying attention to their standards and practices, namely around two big things.
One, the simple one that's not as big a deal is how they approach fair use issues and citation and copyright.
That's not going to be as big a deal.
But the big issue is, in this new podcasting space, ads are being sold which are illegal.
And many individuals on the right are reading pharmaceutical ads, and they're reading ads for finance without looking into federal law.
After we wrapped up the Culture War podcast this morning, I was talking to Del and Dr. Malone, and I mentioned this.
I said, we've had companies pitch to us.
I don't want to name the companies, so if you guys know what I'm talking about here, I don't want to drag anybody or get into any litigation.
But there are people right now in the independent media space, pro-Trump.
Anti-establishment who have been doing ad reads for prescription medications.
That is heavily regulated by the FDA. And the first thing Dr. Malone said to me was, I saw this too.
I don't understand.
Why is it the FDA going after them right now?
I mean, this is heavily regulated.
You can't just advertise prescription drugs.
In some instances, it's illegal.
I said finance as well.
There are a lot of people that are doing ad reads for financial services not realizing there are federal requirements as to what you're supposed to do if you are selling an ad or doing a read.
And so the question then was, why aren't these agencies or anybody doing anything about it?
Here's what I think.
Here's what I said to him.
I don't think the federal regulators under Donald Trump are going to start banning conservative and anti-establishment podcasters.
hotep jesus
No, no.
tim pool
No, YouTube will, though.
YouTube is going to start nuking some massive channels with five-plus million subscribers who have been doing this.
And big shows are going to get caught off guard right before the midterms or right before 2028. It's going to be sporadic.
It won't be all at once.
It won't be a mass wave because they're not stupid.
It's going to be a decently sized podcast.
We'll get a strike.
And YouTube's going to say, well, you were running ads for pharmaceuticals.
That's actually against the rules, against the law.
There have been several instances where sales reps have come to me and said, what do you think about this product?
And I go, Kellen, look up the rules.
Look up the law.
He comes back and says, that product's banned.
I say, thank you, but no thank you.
And they go, they respond to me.
Here's a list of everyone who's already done it.
Yep.
Every time I say, look, we have standards and practices here to a limited degree, like we have lawyers, we have legal teams, we check the laws on these things, and we have a team that goes through what is and is not allowed to be advertised on whichever platform.
YouTube has two sets of rules for this, AdWords and YouTube.
And every time the company says, here's a list of prominent YouTubers who have already done the ad read, and I responded to them, that's great that other people are breaking the law and going to get themselves banned, but that doesn't mean we'll do it.
And they say, you're leaving a lot of money on the table.
I say, sure am.
So then the question is, why hasn't any of these platforms banned these people just yet?
Now is not the time.
You ban a big creator right now, what do you accomplish?
However, within a couple months of an election, you ban a prominent Trump supporter like they were with Alex Jones and those people back then.
You're going to start having a visible dent.
I think we're going to see sporadic bans.
And the narrative will then emerge.
So-and-so got banned from YouTube.
Big channel with 3 million subscribers.
A huge show.
And then they're going to be on X. This is unfair.
And then YouTube's going to come out and say, here's a list of 17 times they did an ad for a prescription drug in violation of federal law.
And we only were just made aware of it.
This is not political.
They were selling drugs.
And they are doing it.
There are prominent podcasters selling drugs right now.
I would say many of them illegally.
And again...
hotep jesus
You hit nail on the head.
That's exactly what's going to happen.
I've been saying on my podcast, the Griff report, I said, yo, listen, the Democrat recovery program is built into the right wing.
tim pool
Yep.
hotep jesus
The mistakes of the right...
You know how politics go.
Nobody really talks about their platform.
They just go, hey, look what that guy did wrong.
So that's what they're going to do.
They're going to wait.
Let all the Republicans make all these mistakes.
We're going to be talking about one of the mistakes later in the show.
But the other thing is the Democrats actually don't even have to have a platform.
They're going to sit back and let the Republicans create their platform.
Because, for example, when you go look back in the day, they had something called the anti-Mason party.
And the anti-Mason party was starting to galvanize votes.
Then they brought a candidate in.
That candidate picked up the anti-Mason talking points.
Anti-Mason party goes away.
So all the Democrats have to do is sit back and wait, see what people care about, see what Republican talking points they got, and then compete on those same talks.
tim pool
So, on top of that, as you already mentioned, Hotep, they've got the moderation happening.
Gavin Newsom agreeing with Charlie Kirk on core anti-wokeness, you know, anti-gender ideologies.
unidentified
Yeah, a big switch.
tim pool
Then what we're going to see is the mass investment into podcasts like this.
One of the things I mentioned to Del and Dr. Malone was...
Rachel, and I said this on the show, Rachel Maddow getting $25 million a year is money flushed down the toilet.
You give $5 million, it is.
Nobody watches her show.
It's no disrespect, but her audience is predominantly 70+.
Some disrespect.
Some.
But I mean no disrespect to the elderly.
But you take $5 million.
You choose any one of the top liberal podcasters.
You say, here are the talking points.
Gender ideology is out.
We don't want none of that.
We're for the working class.
We're moderating.
Here's your talking points.
Here's five million dollars.
And here's twenty million dollars in Google and Billboard and TV ads.
You will now be the biggest podcast in the world so long as you stay within these confines.
You know these people are going to say yes.
At the same time, tons of prominent independent podcasters are going to start going.
Popping across the board, channels getting shut down, and it's never going to be political.
They're going to come out and they're going to say, we have no choice but to shut this channel down because they were doing financial ads without proper financial disclosures required by law.
And they did it 53 times over the course of four or five years.
So I think we'll see a series of things.
For one, how we've seen censorship occur on Twitter before it was X and on YouTube is.
If you're a small to mid-channel, you get nuked instantly without warning.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
If you're a bigger channel, they'll give you a warning, take down 17 of your videos, and then say, well, you broke the rules, and try and push you to the brink where they can make the ban not be a big splash.
I think we're going to see big channels get banned.
I think it's going to be, first, it's going to be as simple as we issued a strike on this channel and a two-week suspension of live streaming and uploading because they sold drugs.
We are not banning them, but this is illegal.
And it's going to be right in the midterm period.
You do that 100 times to some of the top podcasts, and you have put a dent in the narrative machine for the right.
You don't need to ban them outright.
You need to create enough negative pressure so that more people get the liberal podcast in a moderated view and less people get the right anti-establishment podcasts.
hotep jesus
Boom.
Nailed it.
brett dasovic
Do you think that this is him, Gavin Newsom, gearing up for 2028?
phil labonte
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Absolutely.
brett dasovic
People are going to forget.
People have such short attention spans, and he's likable enough to the politically uninitiated that all of the things that have gone wrong in California just won't register with a lot of people.
hotep jesus
Charlie Kirk is one of the sharpest cats out here.
Young Thundercat.
Tough dude to debate.
Knows his stuff.
Gavin Newsom was right there hanging with him in that debate.
He looked very sharp.
And I saw Gavin Newsom in the debate.
Was it Vivek?
Did he debate?
Who did he have to debate during the election?
tim pool
DeSantis.
hotep jesus
He looked sharp then, too.
Gavin Newsom's very sharp.
You watch out for him.
It's going to be Newsom versus Vance next election.
tim pool
You think Vance?
hotep jesus
I think Vance.
It's a hunch, mostly because we're starting to see the Vance memes everywhere.
You see the Vance baby memes?
It's so good, man!
I was like, are they about to meme?
And then the other thing was, when we saw Dark Vance last week with Zelensky, we saw another side of Vance.
He embarrassed Zelensky, made him pull his pants down.
tim pool
Was it you?
Who was it who mentioned the emo Vance?
I chime in with you.
Haven't you people ever heard of Stopping the Goddamn War?
That was emo Vance.
That was so good.
And like...
You have these liberal outlets trying to make it seem like the right is mad about the Vance memes.
It's like, we're doing it too, man.
brett dasovic
He likes it.
He's even said he finds them funny.
tim pool
They're really good.
hotep jesus
Everybody's enjoying them, man.
tim pool
Hey, but the left is making the Trump mistake again.
They are making Vance a household name and prominent in minds.
Attention is currency.
brett dasovic
And meanwhile, they're making the cringy Choose Your Fighter video, which I literally died from watching.
I think I actually got AIDS from watching that video.
phil labonte
It's going around like this.
brett dasovic
It was awful.
tim pool
Fox News won't stop playing it.
For real.
It's like day three now, and they've played it every show.
brett dasovic
And this is the thing.
If they had leadership, somebody would have stopped them from making that video.
Like somebody would have been, they would have given that video upload to somebody in power and he'd be like, no, this can't go out.
You have no idea what you're doing right now.
tim pool
Honestly, they would have Mr. Burns pressed the button and the floor trap would have opened and launched in the chute to eject out of the building.
hotep jesus
Yeah, I think they set themselves up like J. Reed.
You know, the next time it comes around, they're going to get midterm.
You're going to see a whole new crew, a whole new cast, people you never heard of, going to pop out the woodwork and take a lot of it.
tim pool
But hold on real quick.
What if the point of that video...
Was to actually harm the credibility of progressive left Democrats.
brett dasovic
It's doing a fantastic job.
tim pool
It is, isn't it?
And so imagine you're a Newsom acolyte.
You're in the camp where it's like, we're going to moderate on these issues and we're going to try and recapture the center.
First thing we got to do is we got to nuke the squad.
What do we do?
Hey, guys, we're making this video.
Hey, how about 22 senators all make the same video?
You do these things.
To weaken them so that you can supplant them in the party.
brett dasovic
Do you think, is Hakeem Jeffries somebody you would consider closer to center?
tim pool
I don't know about closer to center.
hotep jesus
I wouldn't say he's closer to center, but he's going to come center.
He's going to get there.
He's smart enough to see which way the wind is blowing.
brett dasovic
Then he's saying to them, he's like, look, don't wear costumes.
Don't carry signs at this event.
We need to look normal.
We need to have decorum.
And nobody's listening.
And it's so weird how for the party that seems to fall in line with everything, they don't have any structured leadership.
phil labonte
It's because of the civil war.
It's because they haven't.
Because the progressives were so influential before...
Before they lost this last election, they really thought that all of the progressive policies and all the progressive talking points, they thought that they were in control.
And when Kamala lost, regular Democrats and their donors, the guys that write the checks, are like, hey, this stuff didn't work.
It's clearly unpopular with the American people, so we don't want to touch it.
Look at the things the progressives are pushing.
They're still pushing LGBT issues as if that's something that people, you know, the average American cares about.
It's not.
Most Americans, again, whether you like it or not, most Americans are pro-Israel.
And you've got all these people that are in the progressive group that are saying, you know, that are talking about Palestine and that are essentially to Americans, to regular normal people that are not plugged into politics.
This looks like, oh, they're siding with Hamas is what they, is the short version of it.
That's what they see.
And so they see all this stuff right before the election and they lose the election because of it.
Like, these policies are not popular.
You've got the normal...
Democrats, right?
The people that you would consider liberal Democrats, those people are making a play for control of the party.
That's why John Fetterman is on X talking the way he does.
That's why everybody was so like, yeah, John Fetterman's actually got a point before the election.
You've got Hakeem Jeffries that was saying this stuff to the people that were going to be at the joint session.
Don't do this.
Don't do this.
And they do.
They look like trash.
And now you're only getting more people saying this is not the way.
tim pool
I gotta warn everybody about Fetterman.
So I'm watching Fox News with the wife.
Fetterman pops up and makes a statement, as he does, trying to sound reasonable.
And Allison says, so he's alright.
He's a Democrat, right?
He's trying to fix the party or whatever.
And I said, look at how he votes.
He's setting you up.
People who are not as active as we are.
Hear Fetterman and go, ah, here we go.
The Democrats are getting their act together.
And then he walks right in and rubber stamps woke garbage.
All that stuff.
hotep jesus
It's four groups that's happening right now.
You got people who got the call, people who didn't get the call, stupid people, and smart people.
Now, some of the stupid people didn't get the call.
Some of the smart people didn't get the call.
People like Charlamagne is in that group who was smart and didn't get the call.
You saw him.
Immediately shift.
Well, first of all, he was kind of Trump-ish.
As soon as Kamala ran, he was like, hold on, I got a line with the black folks.
As soon as Kamala was like, hold on, we're coming back.
brett dasovic
At the very least, he would ask questions and be like, it sounds like you guys are making mistakes.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
It was, come on, the moment like...
You know, Trump starts winning.
He goes, were we lied to by the Democrats about Trump being a fascist?
Oh, he's smart.
hotep jesus
He knows.
That's like, now the Democrats.
You start to look at the Democrats that are still pushing the woke stuff.
And you're like, bro, you can't read the...
tim pool
Read the room.
brett dasovic
Who is Stephen A. Smith talking to recently?
Where he's like, you guys got spanked and...
hotep jesus
Stephen A. Smith's been doing his rounds.
He just spoke to Candace Owens.
He's talking about running.
Stephen A. Smith is one of those people who didn't get the call.
Read the room and said, hold on, we're going to bring this thing back center.
Let's be reasonable.
I don't want to be caught in the woke stuff.
Then you'll be irrelevant.
You'll be out like Jay Reed.
tim pool
Well, I mean, I do want to say one thing.
Let's celebrate the defeat of wokeness because Democrats are abandoning it.
And that's we can take we can breathe a sigh of relief.
phil labonte
That's a W. I'm apprehensive about that.
There are attempts to just rebrand it that will happen.
They will just try to change the name that you're seeing that in the government.
In the bureaucracies now, people that used to be head of DEI, etc., they're changing the names, but they will still implement the policies if they're allowed, and that will still be something, because these people that believe this, they truly believe it.
They're ideologues, and as long as they're working in HR, they're going to hire people that agree with them.
tim pool
HR departments are the communist official party offices, you know what I mean?
hotep jesus
There's not much legs in the wokeness, because you have to think generationally.
If you look at the young generation coming up, like I got twin boys that are 15. They're watching the different streamers.
A lot of the streamers say, we're not touching this politics stuff.
We're not touching this woke stuff.
We're just going to go make good content.
So the Democrats in wokeness don't even have the next generation coming up.
So there's not much legs on that.
tim pool
Let me tell you, I had a segment today.
If YouGov polling from, I think it might have been a year ago or within the past few months, if you ask Democrats, have we done enough for LGBTQ people?
For people who are elderly, something like 75% say we haven't.
Gen Z says we've done enough.
No joke.
78% of Gen Z is in the we've done enough or too much.
hotep jesus
Absolutely.
tim pool
Yeah, that's crazy.
hotep jesus
I think they've done too much.
brett dasovic
It's true about the next generation, too.
I remember I think Kamala tried to talk to Kai Sinat, and he's like, no.
hotep jesus
He said no.
brett dasovic
He's like, no.
Get the hell out of here with that.
hotep jesus
I don't want to touch that stuff.
You're going to taint me and mess up my brain?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Smart kid.
I feel like I can't ask this question without starting a three-hour-long conversation about it.
But I'm curious where you think the U.S. ends up on the issue of Israel.
With the younger generations, with people like Candace Owens, there are a lot of people who have broken from the right.
And I don't mean the people who are obsessed with Jews.
Certainly they've been screaming.
But with Dave Smith, who is a more rational, critical of Israel and Israel funding, anti-interventionist, I've had a conversation with many libertarians and even some I would call like moderate conservatives who are pro-Israel.
and the consensus seems to be leaning towards Israel must become self-sufficient of its own accord, like over a period of time.
So it seems like the space we're in is either totally anti-Israel or Israel's cool but not our problem.
And the pro-Israel sentiment, which does exist, I don't think is strong enough to maintain an ongoing U.S. funding of Israel the way we've experienced it.
brett dasovic
Are we talking like the politically initiated or are you saying like the general sentiment within the country?
tim pool
General public like Israel but really aren't gonna be doing much for it.
They're not gonna go vote.
For the most part on these things.
What I mean is, we are seeing more and more a combination of things.
Staunchly anti-Israel individuals.
Then you, of course, had what always existed.
I call them the the Jews people.
They think Jews are hunting on every rock.
They're crazy.
But obviously, they're there.
But you're seeing more prominent personalities be hypercritical of Israel.
And it's become more of a mainstream conversation where...
You don't have the fervent, zealous pro-Israel anymore.
So looking at Gen Z, I'm not talking about these university protesters who are saying free from the river to sea or whatever.
I'm talking about the people you're mentioning who are playing video games who are going to be like, I don't want to be involved in any of that stuff.
And you combine that with the other anti-Israel sentiment.
I'm wondering if the next generation is going to be voting.
We're going to see politicians who are basically like, nah, Israel, we out.
brett dasovic
Well, it's the idea here that you're going to get a next generation of people that are actually America first that are saying, look, anti-war, like Ron Paul in 2008, and taken to its logical conclusion, it's saying, why are we anti-war about everything but this?
And perhaps the next generation just takes that sentiment to say, you need to be self-sufficient.
We can't be funding you.
A lot of those people, they're not going to get into discussions about...
hotep jesus
Can I throw a bomb in the conversation?
unidentified
Yeah.
hotep jesus
You can't be pro-America and not be pro-Israel.
tim pool
He's gone.
brett dasovic
He's left the room.
phil labonte
I'm interested to know exactly what he means by that.
But look, there are going to be a significant portion of people that are going to be like, look, America should take care of America and we shouldn't be funding other countries.
But there are a lot of people that have the impression that we just send them pallets of cash like we did to Iran.
And when we send them money, what we're sending them is weapons that were made in America.
So the United States prints money, sends it to weapons manufacturers in the United States.
That money goes to people that work in the United States.
It goes back into the U.S. economy.
And then the weapons go to Israel.
brett dasovic
People have been having that same conversation about Ukraine, right?
That a lot of what we're doing is funding through weapons that are made here in America.
And a lot of Americans are saying, yes, but we have people here in America who are suffering through natural disasters.
Where they're getting no aid whatsoever.
tim pool
I don't want to fund American weapons either.
brett dasovic
That's what I'm saying.
tim pool
I want a strong military.
I want a strong military.
I want well-paid men and women in uniform.
But when they're like, don't worry, the $350 billion that were being spent on Ukraine actually was given to the military-industrial complex.
I'm like, still bad.
brett dasovic
But there are Americans in the American military-industrial complex.
I'm like, no!
tim pool
You know what would have been better off?
Buying Greenland with that money.
Although, let's do the math.
How much money would each citizen of Greenland get if we divvied up $350 billion?
hotep jesus
Is it like 27,000 people or something like that?
brett dasovic
60. Is that it?
hotep jesus
Yeah, it's like a high school...
tim pool
Each person would get 5.8 million dollars.
brett dasovic
I'm moving to Greenland right now.
I'm out of here.
tim pool
And then we have Greenland!
You know what I mean?
And you can build stuff there.
hotep jesus
Here's my thing.
phil labonte
We're not doing anything in Greenland.
hotep jesus
When you're talking about Israel, what you're talking about is the great...
Western Empire that we all get to enjoy the perks of, okay?
And Israel is our representative in the region to hold things down for us, okay?
Now, first of all, we done put so much money into Israel, we're going to have to get an ROI on it.
brett dasovic
So it's a sunken cost fallacy.
We just have to stay out there.
hotep jesus
You got to stay out there until we get something, you know?
You're going to have to lock down some of the Golan Heights oil.
This goes back to the fact that the Western Empire wanted to topple the Ottoman Empire.
Okay, this is what this is all about.
This is the Ottoman Empire we're talking about here.
And we still got more territory to conquer.
Iran's next.
You know, I'm supposed to save these takes for Joe Rogan and Alex Jones.
I'm dropping them here.
Iran's next.
Everybody knows what's on the plane.
Come on, we all know what's going on.
Iran's next.
We took care of Iraq.
Iran's next.
This is the Western Empire.
Either you love the perks of being an American in the Western Empire, or you don't.
You want the Arabs doing it?
You want the Muslims doing it?
brett dasovic
Or China?
Or China?
hotep jesus
Because China's going to...
If you don't do it, somebody else is going to take that region.
brett dasovic
But don't a lot of people...
There's a fracture in America First of people who understand global politics, geopolitics, and war overseas, and the ones who just are saying blanket statement, I don't think we should be any of these regions.
I think we should focus on things here first.
Now, I understand that's a very, very utopian way of thinking of things.
unidentified
I'm just saying that's a sentiment that you're seeing right now.
tim pool
What a good game.
I don't know about the latest Civ 7 everyone hates.
hotep jesus
What's the other game with the war game you take over?
phil labonte
Risk.
hotep jesus
Risk.
brett dasovic
We were just talking about that today.
We ain't never played Risk.
I think it's just like, what's going on here?
phil labonte
People are real quick to be like, we should, they don't have a sophisticated understanding of geopolitics.
And like, I do think that we should end.
All kinds of support to most countries.
I don't think we should be sending money around the world buying influence and stuff like that.
hotep jesus
Yeah, dropping pronouns.
phil labonte
I don't think we should be doing any of that stuff.
tim pool
Remember when Trump was like, nobody knows where that is.
phil labonte
It doesn't change the fact that most people that are like, oh, we shouldn't do anything, we shouldn't spend money, we shouldn't give foreign aid, they don't understand what foreign aid is.
They think that it's just dumping money and pallets attached.
Well, that's not...
Foreign aid is not regime change, but there is regime change.
I'm not saying there is regime change.
tim pool
USAID is not foreign aid.
USAID is regime change.
phil labonte
USAID is not aid.
It's regime change.
brett dasovic
Aid is AIDS. I guess the way I think it is, the average person who doesn't follow global politics super closely sees natural disasters happen here, and FEMA gives them $600, and they're like, why?
Is it that we can give American citizens $600, but we have to give, again...
hotep jesus
Now that's messed up.
brett dasovic
They're saying that we should take order of importance.
You should take care of the citizens here first.
We have...
We're $35 trillion...
Is it more than that now?
$35 trillion in debt.
Let's focus on the citizens here first.
Then we can...
It's like on an airplane, right?
Like when they drop the mask down.
Secure your mask first.
Then you can worry about the people...
Take care of the people here first, then you can worry about the people in the rest of the world.
tim pool
So in direct funding, I believe the U.S. is at like $140 billion.
In total spending, including ancillary spends, which are not direct to Ukraine, but for...
We'll say things like funding of U.S. personnel in Europe that do aid and assist Ukraine.
So we've got the direct congressional apportion funds.
Then we have existing U.S. military infrastructure in Europe.
I believe the estimate is total expense was $350 billion.
If that is the case, and I know it is a rough estimate, that means the United States has given each citizen of Ukraine, including babies, $9,722.
hotep jesus
Damn.
tim pool
And if you're in a disaster zone in the United States, you got a nice fat $600.
I'll spend it all in one place.
phil labonte
It blows my mind that they go with such a piddly amount of money and say, this is what we're going to give you.
At all.
It is better to not give anybody money than to allow that to go out for the American people to hear.
They're like, what?
That's like two weeks of groceries.
What do you mean?
Support, blah, blah, blah.
It is way better to say, we're not giving anything out.
It's all going to go through a blah, blah, blah.
brett dasovic
The government's like, have The Rock drop a GoFundMe.
hotep jesus
It's terrible, man.
brett dasovic
The Rock did the GoFundMe for Hawaii.
phil labonte
Oh, yeah, yeah.
brett dasovic
After the fires.
tim pool
But if it's pop culture, Brett knows.
We're like, who?
phil labonte
The Rock?
hotep jesus
Whatever happened to East Palestine, Ohio?
Did they even get a seizure?
tim pool
I don't think so.
And that soil is contaminated with the vinyl chloride, was it?
brett dasovic
Did they ever fix the drinking water?
hotep jesus
That's what I'm saying.
Flint, Michigan?
unidentified
Flint, Michigan.
tim pool
I'll just tell you, I don't even care.
I got potholes.
We got an interstate highway down the street.
It's got potholes.
Look, if you can't fix a pothole, okay, on your road, you don't send our money to Ukraine.
Sorry.
It's just, come on.
I understand war happens, but you're supposed to explain to the American people and get approval from Congress.
And have general support for these things.
The problem we have now is that they know they have no real justification for what they're doing.
So they have to censor and ban people and any securities means they can to stop them from spreading sentiment that is anti-war.
hotep jesus
60 years from now, they're going to be talking about, we got the binders coming out the binders.
Ukraine files.
Here's who the money was.
That's going to be the next.
tim pool
We know they're stealing it.
hotep jesus
Absolutely.
tim pool
Well, I mean, and this is.
There were the fake businesses that were set up that were receiving U.S. money directly to build fortifications.
And then when Russia attacked, there were no fortifications.
And Ukraine was like, uh, yeah, because the money was being stolen.
Let's jump to the story from the Postmillennial.
AOC aid in the U.S. illegally self-deports to Colombia.
Say what?
phil labonte
Victory.
tim pool
She employed an illegal immigrant?
That's a crime, isn't it?
phil labonte
That is a crime.
tim pool
Hold on.
I gotta get the context here.
What's going on?
An aid to AOC. Self-deported after being in the U.S. illegally, Diego de la Vega said he has freedom of movement in Colombia now after he overstayed his visa in the U.S. Okay, so overstayed a visa.
Did she hire him when he was allowed to work here?
What's going on?
They say, according to the Washington Free Beacon, he left the U.S. in December after he overstayed his visa that he received when he was seven years old.
On Wednesday, AOC praised de la Vega saying that we love him.
The aid self-deportation came shortly after Trump was elected in November, and since becoming president, he has pushed for a mass deportation effort, starting with those here illegally that are also committing other crimes.
De La Vega relocated to Bogota to be with his wife, who was another illegal immigrant to the U.S. In an interview with Migrant Insider, the aide said that he was illegalized in the U.S. and that he would have the freedom of movement in Colombia.
What?
It's not clear how De La Vega was able to be employed by the lawmaker.
Although he was barred from working in Congress because of his legal status.
So is AOC just outright committing crimes here?
brett dasovic
What does illegalized mean?
tim pool
That's a made-up term?
brett dasovic
It's like self-deport is going to be like YouTubers censoring themselves about self-deletion.
It's going to be a new term.
hotep jesus
He's just going to re-up on Zelensky's PACs.
unidentified
I thought AOC was Puerto Rican, right?
hotep jesus
I don't know.
She's just beautiful, though.
I love AOC. That's my beauty.
phil labonte
Look, if Trump's policies are getting illegal aliens to self-deport, I'm good with it.
I'm good with it.
tim pool
So he was a DACA recipient.
Right.
And once Trump came in, he said he's getting out of here because he's being illegalized.
But he was barred from working in Congress.
So how was she able to employ a DACA recipient?
I'm sorry.
I have no sympathy for DACA recipients.
I just really don't.
When was DACA? 2013 or something?
2012?
So right now, with Trump getting elected, with immigration being a principal issue, you've got people who have been here as DACA recipients since then.
They've had 12 years to get their affairs in order, and they chose not to.
And now it's, oh no, but these people have been here their whole lives.
Well, they didn't have to be.
They could have been here half their lives and they had 12 years to get their affairs sorted to go back to their home countries.
I don't know why that's my responsibility as an American.
brett dasovic
Do you think that this is an issue that's going to be contentious or is this one that Democrats are going to end up shifting on?
Because this is like a core Obama issue, right?
tim pool
They have to shift on it because I'll give you two examples.
The immigration crisis was so severe, people's brains got fried.
And another example is gay marriage support is dropping and likely Obergefell will be overturned.
And this is because the people who supported DACA did so thinking they were being reasonable.
And then what happened?
The border got overrun.
Communities changed.
Certain community centers are overrun.
The black voters in Chicago were at meetings saying, we are being, they said the quote, we are being replaced.
That came from the black community in Chicago.
These people are going to recoil at the talk of amnesty.
From now on, because they've been negatively impacted by mass migration.
So when gay marriage emerges, when DACA emerges, it doesn't really bother anybody or affect anybody.
And they say, who cares?
Ten years on, mass migration has negatively impacted us, and the LGBTQ issues have pushed so far beyond the pale that people are shocked and scared.
Now, moderates, moderate liberal types who supported these causes have disappeared.
You're now going...
So gay marriage support has dropped like...
I think two or three points from last year to next, from this.
So it's started to curve down.
And you're likely going to see many of these people who are once liberal and the post-liberals who have joined Trump will not speak out as activists in support of gay marriage when the challenges arise.
And they are.
Numerous states are saying they're going to get rid of it.
I'm not trying to shift the conversation back to the same point about immigration.
Back then, DACA is, immigration doesn't really faze me.
Let the people stay.
What's the problem?
Now the issue is my community center is full of illegal immigrants.
I don't care.
I have no sympathy.
You've got to go home.
hotep jesus
Blake and Riley stories all in their face.
That's a nasty story.
When Trump was doing his address with Congress this week and he started naming those stories, people hear that stuff.
That resonates and it's going to stick in your mind.
But when I saw that quote just now from AOC and she says, we're going to miss him.
And when you said what you said, that was the inkling I got.
I was like, wait a second.
She's shifting?
Because normally what you would get from her after something like that is, you know, she's going to be at the border crying near the fence.
She didn't do that.
She says, we're just going to miss him.
tim pool
Or the response would be, I will hide him in my attic if I have to.
hotep jesus
Right.
And she didn't say that.
tim pool
She said, miss you, bye.
hotep jesus
So did she get the call?
Because we know she's not too bright.
So maybe she got the call.
Maybe somebody said, AOC, listen, we're going to need you around next week.
You're going to have to shift a little bit.
tim pool
Sorry, just I love...
That's probably true.
The call is going around.
You probably got Gavin Newsom.
You got legal teams.
They probably went through a list of people that they think would follow orders with the new shift for politics.
And I think you're right about Charlemagne.
He didn't get the call, but he is smart.
So he went, oh, geez, they lied about Trump, huh?
brett dasovic
So, like, the idea was that when they talked about Lake and Riley, or they talked about the young man with brain cancer at the address, and nobody stood up, and no Democrats clapped, did none of those people get the call?
Because a really easy way to start shifting would have been to just stand up and act like a human being.
hotep jesus
They didn't get the call.
And again, coming back to Charlemagne, when you look at Charlemagne and a breakfast club's coverage, even, I gotta give props to DJ. When they talked about DJ, they were like, yo, leave little bro alone.
He's got brain cancer, blah, blah, blah.
But you cannot not support DJ. And what they were saying was that Trump was grifting off a DJ. And I'm like, listen, let's say Trump was grifting off a DJ. Who wins more from that, DJ or Trump?
I'm like, yo, I feel like DJ wins more.
DJ's set up for life now.
tim pool
Yeah, but sure.
But let's say Trump was grifting and Democrats knew it.
That's why they're complaining.
Then the best thing they could have done is all stood up and clapped and cheered for it and made sure Trump didn't win this one.
brett dasovic
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
And it was bipartisan.
brett dasovic
Like, it's political theater.
I'm like, it's all political theater.
It's how you respond that actually matters.
tim pool
The next day.
When they're censuring Al Green and then all the Democrats, not all of them, but a lot of them, are singing We Shall Overcome and the Well of the Congress, they didn't get the call.
hotep jesus
They didn't get the call.
tim pool
I'm like, you look nuts.
hotep jesus
They're on their way out.
tim pool
They have to be.
And now we're hearing that Johnson may remove many of these Democrats from their committees.
So it's not expulsion, but it's tantamounts too.
So for those that don't understand.
hotep jesus
This is so bad, you can replace him with anybody.
tim pool
Right.
I want to make sure people understand this.
When you're in Congress, you want to be on certain committees because the committees can get those bills to the floor for a floor vote.
So Matt Gaetz pointed this out to us.
He said when he first got in, they said if you want a committee assignment, you've got to pay for it.
And based on the size of your district, and it's like...
Per capita GDP or whatever, your contribution to the NRCC, National Republican Congressional Committee or whatever, has to be a certain number.
And so Gates said, I wrote him a check and said, how much will half a million get me?
And they were like, you can have any committee assignment you want.
When Marjorie Taylor Greene got censured for Post Humanity Facebook and they stripped her of her committee assignments, she was basically unable then to advance certain bills or be involved in that process.
So if these Democrats are getting stripped from their committee assignments, and it could be 30 or 40, That's massive.
It is almost expulsion.
Expulsion could get a new Democrat to come in and get on the committees and negotiate.
But if they get removed, they're going to dramatically lose power.
hotep jesus
You know what the new Democrat party is going to look like?
White men.
Strong white men.
I'm telling you, you cannot...
tim pool
Fetterman?
Newsome?
hotep jesus
Yeah, Fetterman Newsome.
brett dasovic
And again, there's a million things you can criticize Gavin Newsome on, but the sad fact is most people have short memories and aren't going to remember it by the time the next election comes around.
hotep jesus
I don't remember it.
All I see is the new Gavin.
tim pool
Yep.
And he was very deferential to Charlie on a lot of those issues.
hotep jesus
He was.
tim pool
When he was like, fair point, yep, okay, well, yeah.
phil labonte
The stuff that he's deferential about are the obvious things.
The things that it was insane for the Democrats to take up these ideas in the first place.
It is insane for the Democrats to say, we're going to force...
Young men to play women's sports.
We're going to force schools to allow that to happen.
And you see that video of that poor girl getting her face smashed in with the volleyball?
Every single parent that sees that is like, I'm all set with the Democrats.
I don't need this anymore.
tim pool
You know what I think?
I think the Democrats and the DJ thing, I think it's that Democrats are substantially less likely, I mean the voters as a base, less likely to have kids.
They don't get an emotional reaction seeing...
That father, they don't empathize with that father.
So there's two things I see here.
We mentioned this, I think I mentioned this this morning, that in this battle we have, there are people who serve God and people who want to be God.
So the transhumanists, big tech, or people who are just gluttonous and hedonistic.
And then you have people on the other side.
If you want to secularize it for those that are moderate and support Trump but don't believe in God, these are people who believe in something greater than themselves.
So they might be an atheist.
They might be agnostic, but they serve in the military because they believe, you know, I think that exists.
When you look at the DJ scenario, people who believe in the greater are more likely to feel empathy, not just for the kid who was bullied, and that's where a lot of this started.
He was being bullied because he wanted to be a cop.
But for the father who's standing there, imagining what that dad must have felt when his son was going through brain cancer, imagining what that kid must have been feeling going through brain cancer.
hotep jesus
Thirteen times.
tim pool
Thirteen times.
Man, to see that dad with a big old smile on his face holding up his son for the President of the United States to be honored, to know that not only did his son survive, and it was probably the most terrifying and painful thing you can experience, it's probably slow torture.
The Democrats, I'm sure many of the Democrat politicians, they have kids, we know they do, and they understand that.
But they don't stand up because their voters don't understand that.
And their voters won't react with empathy because they don't care.
In fact, they've been publishing op-eds all the time saying, stop having kids.
It's bad for the climate.
hotep jesus
I mean, the problem is the reason why Democrats can't resonate with that father is because Democrats are used to kids having two dads.
tim pool
Where's the other one?
hotep jesus
Where's the other dad?
phil labonte
They've signed up for hating men.
It's been...
tim pool
Bro.
phil labonte
Purely obvious for at least 20-30 years.
tim pool
I'm so...
When DJ got helped up by his dad, I wasn't just...
I wasn't just cheering for DJ, I was cheering for that dad.
I mean, I've told this before, there was a video that went viral on the internet a long time ago of a dad holding his dead son, and he wailed in such a way that would haunt your nightmares.
And I'm like, worst thing a parent could ever experience.
And he didn't just deal with that pain.
It was prolonged torture over a long period of time.
Parents who go through kids with terminal illness, you're not just experiencing that pain one time.
You're being beaten over the head.
You have to watch your child suffer in that way.
Here he is now on the other side of it in the best way imaginable.
He shouldn't just get a standing ovation.
They should have stood up for 20 minutes and clapped for them.
The Democrats, I don't believe their constituencies can resonate with that.
So they just say...
Don't stand up.
It'll be bad for business.
brett dasovic
Yeah, because the climate's going to bring the world to an end, so why would you have kids anyways?
hotep jesus
You know what?
The gift that Trump gave that kid, outside of the gift of the grift, because now he get to get the grift out, okay?
He's hot as fire right now.
But he gave that kid the gift of life.
Yeah.
Because...
They've done studies on this in Asia.
They have happiness treatment for diseases.
But the level of your mood can actually help you with whatever it is that you're facing.
And this kid now enjoying this extended period of elation, he's giving this kid life.
And this is one of the most beautiful things.
I will never forgive the people that really politicized that and didn't show love to DJ. The fact that the Democrats can't identify the obvious...
phil labonte
Correct moves is actually hilarious.
It's really funny.
If you actually think about it, it's like you thought it was a bad idea to stand up for the kid with cancer.
You hate Trump that much.
You thought it was a bad idea to stand up for the kid with cancer.
You people are morons.
You people shouldn't be in any position of authority because you're too stupid.
hotep jesus
Hey, Democrats, if y'all be mean to Trump, I'm on your bumper.
tim pool
I gotta be honest.
I imagine Trump...
And his cabinet are sitting in the room, and then Trump's sitting there being like, I tell these people that air is safe to breathe.
They hold their breath.
Watch.
How much you want to bet?
I bring out a kid with cancer, and they're not going to cheer for him.
And they're like, Trump, Mr. President, that's a great idea.
Can we get a kid?
And he's like, all right, let's bring him out.
It's a grift, but then it's like it proves the point.
Let's jump to this story from USA Today.
Donald Trump says he isn't considering pardoning Derek Chauvin in George Floyd's murder.
Fake news.
Donald Trump said, I have no idea what you're talking about.
So here's the story.
Ben Shapiro put out a video saying, pardon Derek Chauvin.
Derek Chauvin not only was charged at the state level, but also the federal level.
Ben Shapiro made the point that Trump could pardon this man who has been wrongly prosecuted in many ways.
And Trump was asked about it, and his response was, no, I haven't heard about it.
I haven't heard of that.
The media is now running the headline that Trump says he won't pardon Derek Chauvin, which is a weird headline to run, considering Trump just said, effectively, I don't know what you're talking about.
They go to mention Ben Shapiro, founder of the Daily Wire, this week launched an online petition calling for Trump to pardon Chauvin, who in 2021 was sentenced for 22 and a half years in prison on state charges for second, third, second and third degree murder and 21 years on federal charges for depriving Floyd of his civil rights.
When he knelt on top of Floyd's neck for nine and a half minutes as he lay on a Minneapolis sidewalk in May of 2020.
Certainly, we all know that the issue there is not so cut and dry and they're not framing it that well.
But the Daily Wire has pushed this big campaign, and many people have gotten on board with it.
I think, obviously, I think Derek Chauvin shouldn't be in prison at all.
And I have tweeted hashtag Free Chauvin numerous times.
I don't know if it makes sense right now for Trump to put this on his agenda.
I mean, certainly Chauvin shouldn't be in prison, but he's going to be in state prison anyway, even if Trump pardoned him, he's still locked up.
So I don't know why now is the right moment for this, but I'm curious what you guys think.
hotep jesus
It's a griff.
Big boss Ben Grifton.
This goes back to what I said before.
The Democrat recovery program is built into the right wing.
You're going to have missteps like Big Boss Ben trying to get his grift on.
And then it's going to come 2028. People go, how come black people won't vote for Republicans?
Because y'all doing stupid stuff like this.
tim pool
But what's wrong with this?
hotep jesus
It's stupid.
tim pool
But no, like, why?
You think Chauvin should not be pardoned?
hotep jesus
Here's what we got.
You got Derek Chauvin, right?
Who, he ain't the cleanest dude.
He ain't the cleanest.
He got a little funny past him and George Floyd got a pass before.
tim pool
They worked at the same place together.
hotep jesus
Yeah, okay.
So, we're not even going to get into that, okay?
You got Derek Chauvin, then you got the country.
Are you going to sacrifice your country for a dirty cop?
tim pool
Why is he a dirty cop?
hotep jesus
You're going to have to go.
We're not going to get into that.
tim pool
You're saying, narrative-wise, the view among many in the population is that he's a dirty cop.
It doesn't matter what I believe.
hotep jesus
Yes.
In short, yes.
But there are stories that I've heard from people in Minnesota about the dealings between him and George Floyd and those two were not exactly the nicest people, right?
It's the same thing with George Floyd, right?
When I tell black people, I'm like, yo, look, like, George Floyd ain't exactly Martin Luther King Jr., right?
It's the same thing with Derek Chauvin.
I'm like, yo, this dude ain't exactly Captain America.
So don't throw away the country for one cop.
tim pool
That's the deontological versus utilitarian moral worldview challenge we all face.
brett dasovic
And it wouldn't matter anyways.
hotep jesus
You've got to sacrifice him.
Yeah, you've got to sacrifice him.
Hey, Derek, show me, look, we've got an election to win.
You're going to have to sit out in prison, dog.
phil labonte
He does it on his way out the door at the end of his term.
brett dasovic
And this is one of those things that you're just, you're not going to...
tim pool
But not right now.
brett dasovic
There's an information gap between the people that actually followed this case closely and looked at the medical examiner's report and looks at all of the information connected to it.
It was a very, very emotional response from a lot of the country in relation to this.
And they would lose a lot of support if they did this right now.
For something that wouldn't get them out of jail.
tim pool
I'd take one term as president because I would just do the – I'd pardon so many people.
Like just insane pardons.
Like most nonviolent offenses.
I say most because some – we talked about this before with like what if Trump pardoned all like marijuana-related federal charges.
The issue is that some of them pleaded down from violent or very dangerous, very bad things.
Some are cartel members who don't want free.
Just because we got them on the pot thing doesn't mean we don't know about other stuff we did.
But there's a lot of people I'd say, just get them out.
We don't like nonviolent offenses that we know is just some dude who had a bunch of weed or whatever.
We don't want to deal with this stuff.
But if I had just one term, I'd be pardoned left and right, and I'd be locking up left and right.
I've already mentioned this over and over again.
These CBP agents who are trafficking kids and knew it, The people who are transporting illegal immigrants and knew it, and they worked for these bus companies or whatever, I'd be locking people up like crazy.
I guess I'm just saying, like, right now, Trump's in this position where he's not running for re-election.
hotep jesus
Right.
tim pool
After the midterms, maybe he goes...
More ham than he already is.
brett dasovic
Yeah, but the thing is, he's gonna start be planning for 2028 for whoever comes next, right?
Just because he, especially if we're talking about Vance being the one that runs in 2028, then whatever Trump does on his way out will be, will color how people feel about Vance, even if Vance had nothing to do with those decisions.
hotep jesus
Right, but the thing is, if you've got a corpse of a Democrat party, don't...
Give it life.
tim pool
I agreed.
Yes.
hotep jesus
And when you do stuff like this, you give them something to talk about.
Let them die.
tim pool
Man, you know, this is the philosophical conundrum, the trolley problem.
Would you sacrifice a single individual for the greater good or for the larger society?
hotep jesus
Phil is commissary.
tim pool
That's tough, man.
Yeah, that's true.
hotep jesus
You know, get him a nice couch.
Make sure you take care of him.
Get the guards to take care of him.
Hey, listen, the mob used to do stuff like that, right?
Like, if that's your guy, take care of him.
tim pool
Tear down the wall in his cell.
Give him two cells.
Put a TV. Get a jacuzzi in there.
hotep jesus
Send a couple of girls in every once in a while.
brett dasovic
Look, they could do that.
Like I said before, I'm from Minnesota.
The Minneapolis cops are not exactly known as the most, you know, reputable police force.
Or at least they weren't.
That's all I'm saying.
hotep jesus
That's what I'm saying.
tim pool
You said Ben was grifting.
Why do you think he's doing it?
hotep jesus
Because he couldn't buy TimCast.
He couldn't buy TimCast, so he's like, damn, what am I going to do next?
brett dasovic
Break glass in case of emergency.
This is his backup option.
tim pool
I do love that all of these Zaju's people were screaming at the top of their lungs, claiming they claimed Daily Wire already owned TimCast.
There was an article that said Daily Wire had a minority stake in the company.
I was like, none of this was ever true.
I'm a fan of their work.
Matt Walsh does amazing stuff.
Friends with them.
You know, I got no beef.
I think they're good people.
Whatever.
And when these people run this narrative, no apologies, no backtracking.
They just...
So, you know, I'll say this.
hotep jesus
They said you got a yamaka under your beanie.
phil labonte
They still think that you're owned by the Jews.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no.
So when Jake Shields...
hotep jesus
Uh-oh.
tim pool
Yeah, and some of the other people...
Who are, like, their brains have, like, they got what, you know, like, they got...
hotep jesus
He's a fighter.
You know his brain knuckle.
He got CTE and something.
tim pool
He got a lot of followers.
But when he says one time that Tim sold his company to Jews, he's got...
Followers who to this day believe that, and it was never true, and I bet him a bottle of Pappy whiskey wasn't true, and he just disappeared on the issue like a little baby.
He just ran away and said, I'm not going to say anything about nothing.
So what I will say about those people is, think about how wrong he was about that, and how he adamantly kept screaming it.
Think about everything else he's saying.
The dude is just, it's crazy how wrong he is, but he gets propped up.
I think he's probably getting a lot of bot traffic.
hotep jesus
I was just about to say that.
Y'all, listen.
All these dudes that's pushing this anti-Semite stuff, the only reason why they're doing it is because they think they're getting traction.
But the traction is coming from bot traffic.
They are being manipulated.
So the thing is, they say, the Jews, and then it gets a spike in traffic.
But there's somebody manipulating them.
I ain't gonna say who.
Because I don't know.
I can speculate, but I don't know.
But somebody's pushing bot buttons, and these people are being controlled by bot farms because they think they're getting real engagement, and they are not getting real engagement.
tim pool
I think it's important to clarify that certainly there are a lot of people who are following them and do believe this stuff.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
And what happens is when you point out there are bot campaigns that are easily visible, people think you're accusing them of being a bot, so we'll clarify.
But I'll say this.
I do believe the whole Zijus thing that we're seeing, where it's like...
People acclaimed that we were owned by—I mean, it's crazy because it's like you got Catholics working at Daily Wire.
But I think the reason why there is a bot campaign in this regard is it gives the big platforms an excuse to shadow ban, and it kills your advertising revenue.
So I'll just say this.
I'm not going to speak about any of the big names personally, but how is it— That you can have, and I'll be as vague as possible because there's probably like 15 to 30 people who fit this category.
They are podcasters in the space of A. And it's, you know, just like variable X. We'll call it variable X. And maybe it's billiards.
Maybe it's racing.
And now they're only talking about Jews.
hotep jesus
Right.
tim pool
Because what happens is somebody will post something and it will hit the keywords that will generate likes and retweets.
Weak-willed people see that and go, oh boy.
And they chase after it.
So here's what happens.
Somebody's like, I played billiards today, and they're posting billiards videos.
Then the Israel-Palestine thing happens, and they see it, and they go, man, that's crazy.
And so they tweet, I don't know what I'm seeing, but these bomb strikes in Gaza freak me out.
All of a sudden, they get 100 responses and 73 retweets, and the people are responding being like, oh, my God, how bad is this?
I can't believe Israel would do this.
And then they see that and they go, my billiard video got 3000 views, my My Israel video got 10,000 views.
hotep jesus
Switch up.
tim pool
So they say, I'm going to post another one.
Then the X revenue comes in.
Now they got 300 bucks, and they're like, whoa!
There it is.
I remember when, um...
hotep jesus
It's a feedback loop.
tim pool
It is.
There was that one dude who claimed that GTA was run by the Jews.
Do you remember that?
The Grand Theft Auto video game.
Yeah, I can't remember.
What's the guy's name?
I don't know.
People in the chat will probably know.
But he tweeted something like, Grand Theft Auto is going woke because it's run by Jews.
And I'm like, okay.
And he got a bunch of retweets on it.
hotep jesus
I don't even remember the game going woke.
It seemed very anti-woke.
tim pool
Because they put a woman as a protagonist of the new game.
hotep jesus
But I thought that was genius because we never got that and now you get to play the whole Bonnie and Clyde situation.
phil labonte
You could still go buy a hooker killer and take the money back.
hotep jesus
Here's the genius behind adding a woman.
It's not about wokeness.
It's about the fact that what do you have entering the gaming community in big numbers right now?
tim pool
Not women.
hotep jesus
Female gamers?
tim pool
It's not true.
What?
It's fake.
What they did, so this has been a controversy for 15 years.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
Women entered the gaming space with Candy Crush.
brett dasovic
Phone games.
tim pool
Phone games.
hotep jesus
Right.
tim pool
Candy Crush principally.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
Not AAA games like First Person Shooters and GTA. Women still do not play those games.
So imagine if they said, did you know that the fastest growing demographic in podcasting was young Gen Z women?
Timcast IRL better start doing makeup tutorials.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Timcast and podcasting in news and culture is still 80% male.
hotep jesus
Yes.
tim pool
The spaces that have attracted females have been principally sex podcasts.
I'm not being crude.
brett dasovic
Call her daddy.
tim pool
Call her daddy.
And so if someone came out and said, women is a fast-growing demographic, quick, turn your news and culture podcast for pro-women, you're going to lose everything.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
Women play Candy Crush.
They don't play GTA. Yep.
hotep jesus
I don't know, Tim.
tim pool
It's a fact.
I'm not making that up.
hotep jesus
Alright, so I'm basing this off of anecdotal evidence, which is why it's different.
And I'm not saying it's the fastest-growing demographic.
I won't say that.
What I am saying is, I've never seen so many women in my sphere pick up COD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, and Grand Theft Auto.
I know the numbers aren't there, but women have a huge influence because they have boobs.
tim pool
Certainly.
hotep jesus
And they are going to draw in a large crowd.
Because you see, what do the kick guys do?
What do the Twitch guys do?
It's 80-20.
It is 80-20.
But they always bring on the OnlyFans girls to pump up their numbers.
tim pool
And the women who are playing these games are likely doing it because they're doing streaming content.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
And they get eyeballs.
hotep jesus
Correct.
tim pool
But they don't, at the ground level, they're not going to buy the games.
hotep jesus
No, they're not going to buy the games.
tim pool
So you cater to this demographic, you will lose money.
hotep jesus
No, I don't think they're catering to the demographic.
tim pool
They absolutely are.
hotep jesus
You think GTA is?
tim pool
Not just GTA, but tons of games have tried implementing this feminist worldview, and it has bombed their games miserably.
hotep jesus
Like what?
Like what game?
tim pool
So first, we're talking about an overlap.
hotep jesus
Because Heavenly Sword was fire.
tim pool
I didn't play that one.
hotep jesus
That was great.
tim pool
Right now, you've got two big controversies.
Dragon Age crashed miserably.
A AAA game flopped.
hotep jesus
Really?
tim pool
And the...
It is believed the main reason may be, I think it is personally, that they introduced feminist politics, woke politics into the game, gender ideology.
hotep jesus
That's disgusting.
tim pool
And a video went viral that was a two, it was like a three minute cutscene where you had to listen to someone explain why you can't misgender people.
And then next thing we know, Dragon Age, which was a massive franchise, bombs.
hotep jesus
Wow.
tim pool
At the same time, Marvel Rivals is super popular, probably the biggest game right now, and what do the women look like in that game?
They got big booties and big titties.
The men are ridiculously jacked, oversized, and the woke are complaining you can't gender swap the characters.
And the game's like, shut up.
The women, yo, they just rolled out Sue Storm and she may as well be not wearing any clothes.
They basically put a naked woman and painted her white and blue.
And, get this, I don't know why they did this, but Reed Richards has...
Gaps in his junk, in his suit, his unitard, with his pubes sticking out.
I don't know what that's all about.
hotep jesus
But the new GTA chick, they twerking on top of the car.
I want to see that.
tim pool
You want to play that?
You want to be that character?
Is that who you want to be?
hotep jesus
No.
tim pool
The male power fantasy in GTA is to run around, pull a guy out of his car, steal it, and drive it off a bridge or whatever.
brett dasovic
And it's the same thing.
It's the same type of feminist messaging that's failed in Hollywood where they want to put more women in movies, but the movies that have to make it at the big budget box office stuff have to be spy thrillers.
They have to be superheroes.
hotep jesus
I don't want to see no woman doing man stuff.
brett dasovic
Well, then that's the thing, though.
See, the problem is that what they don't understand is they think that by putting the female characters in the male role that they're going to bring in the female audience, not understanding that the women will come for it anyways because they want to see the male in that role too.
They're doing this right now.
Okay, so they just released the information that Jeff Bezos, after finding out that Barbara Broccoli, after they bought MGM, was like, they came to Barbara Broccoli, who's the one who shepherded James Bond through Eon Productions.
They said, here's what we want to do.
We want to do a Moneypenny series.
We want to do a female James Bond.
And she's like, these people are idiots.
And Jeff Bezos is like, I don't care how much money you have to pay her, pay her so we can get rid of her.
They gave her a billion dollars.
They gave her a billion dollars because she understands whatever you want to say about past casting.
Men want to be him.
Women want to be with him.
And for the last 15 years, they have fought that tooth and nail trying to put women in the roles that men want when they don't understand that women want to see the men there, too.
tim pool
What was the last James Bond where he had a black female No Time to Die?
Because they're trying to set her up to be either as a spinoff movie or a principal character.
They keep trying to do this thing where they're like...
Women want to be action stars.
brett dasovic
No, they do not.
tim pool
And the proof is in the pudding.
Look at Marvel's.
So Captain Marvel made, what, like a billion dollars?
The first one?
Not because.
It's a strong woman.
brett dasovic
Because it was right before Endgame.
tim pool
It was right before Endgame, and they said this was going to tie directly into it, and people thought, Marvel movies are good, I'll see this one.
And guess what happened in the Marvels, the sequel?
It was a massive flop.
brett dasovic
Made $43 million its opening weekend.
It ended up making less than $400 million.
tim pool
It did not recover its budget, as far as I know.
brett dasovic
Well under its budget.
tim pool
And it's ridiculed.
The crazy thing is, they said, the Marvel team was pumping out PR that Brie Larson would replace...
Robert Downey Jr. as the principal character bringing the MCU together.
So as we know, for those that watch the Marvel movies...
Iron Man really kicked it off.
The Hulk movie, people didn't really care for.
brett dasovic
Except for you had to watch Captain America Brave New World and it ends up being a freaking Hulk sequel.
tim pool
So when Iron Man, the first movie that comes out, Robert Downey-Juny steals the show and makes ridiculous amounts of money.
And so all of a sudden, they start creating these movies and Iron Man is the central piece of the set.
They said, okay, after Endgame, right?
Who do we have after Iron Man?
Captain Marvel will take over.
So they tried to jam Brie Larson, an unlikable human, like, I'm sorry, like, I mean this with no disrespect, but she's very unlikable, into this action star role that was despised, and they tried.
Backlash was immense.
Revenue collapsed.
Kevin Feige reportedly, last August, started firing all of the woke producers.
I'm sure you know more about this than I do.
And now Brie Larson's nowhere to be found.
She appears passively sometimes in some of these films.
She'll make a brief appearance.
She was supposed to be Iron Man.
But people did not want to see women doing man stuff.
hotep jesus
Well, here's my thing.
We ain't like Laura Croft.
brett dasovic
Rare and earlier.
hotep jesus
Why did we like Laura Croft?
tim pool
She had big triangle boobs.
hotep jesus
This is what I'm saying.
As long as the girl in GTA got a big booty, because a lot of black men played GTA, if she got a big booty and she's got some cassavas, it's gonna be a go.
It's gonna be a go.
tim pool
You are not wrong.
hotep jesus
Now, if she comes out and she's a stud, we might have a problem.
brett dasovic
If she's not hot, That's its own issue in video games, is the way they draw the female characters now.
tim pool
I go back to the old World of Warcraft days, and there was a viral meme, because everybody knew that you're playing World of Warcraft, there are female characters running around.
That's a guy.
There's no women playing World of Warcraft.
There were some, but it was 80-20.
And you'd be on...
We used TeamSpeak.
What was the other...
You guys played?
We used TeamSpeak.
So we're doing a raid on Courage.
We got 40 people.
And like...
You know, out of 40, 17 are female characters, but we're in team chat and it's all guys.
And the meme that went viral at the time was, if I'm going to stare at an ass all day, it's going to be a girl's.
hotep jesus
Correct.
tim pool
The dudes weren't playing female characters because they wanted to be female warriors.
They wanted to see the woman in the bikini running around, bouncing around.
That's why in World of Warcraft and all these games...
Your character would defeat the dragon or whatever.
And the dragon would drop the guardian's armor of eternal force.
And when the man put it on, he's in this ridiculously decked out scale armor.
When the woman put it on, it was a bikini.
Same item for a female character was a bikini.
For a man, it was this ridiculous big suit.
Because the guy just wanted to watch naked women run around.
hotep jesus
That's what I'm saying.
So I think, you know, the GTA characters, you know, you could run and they're going to have the main characters.
She's going to be running around with her ass out.
I mean, her butt out.
I think that's what's going to happen.
But I think it's going to be like GTA V where you get to switch between characters.
They're all going to have their different role.
But I think it's going to be a Bonnie and Clyde thing.
And I think that's going to be fun.
tim pool
But basically, when we look at why these games...
It was largely feminist politics, largely pushed by women targeting female demographics, and it never worked.
Now, when you look at Marvel Rivals, once again, like, I'll say this, they introduced Sue Storm, and the way they draw superheroes has always been their naked bodies that are colored.
And it looks like they're wearing unitards, but they're literally drawing, and this is a well-known fact.
hotep jesus
Body paint.
tim pool
Yeah, exactly.
It's a well-known fact that in comic books, superheroes are typically drawn as nude, but they color the body.
They don't give them clothing.
They don't give them suits.
You see every vein, every muscle.
They're basically naked bodies.
hotep jesus
Oh, I love it.
Here's my issue with what I saw online.
What I saw online were conservatives saying, oh my god, why is she twerking on the top of a cop car?
And I go, what?
That's when I said, that's woke right to me.
This is Grand Theft Auto.
You ain't been to the strip club in Grand Theft Auto.
It's a degenerate game.
It's supposed to be degenerate behavior.
brett dasovic
Wait till you see what else happens.
tim pool
I gotta be honest.
I'm gonna play GTA. I never played the story.
I absolutely hate that in GTA, I think with GTA 5, you had to do the initial story to get...
Threw it so you could actually just run around the city and do whatever you wanted.
I hate this story.
unidentified
I don't care.
hotep jesus
I love this story.
tim pool
I don't care.
hotep jesus
Let me tell you why I love this story.
Because every mission is from a heist movie.
So it's like if you...
tim pool
In every game?
hotep jesus
At least the last one.
tim pool
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Well, the one was...
You play Scarface in...
What was that?
Vice City, I think it was.
Vice City, you're playing Scarface.
So I'm like, I'm reliving.
Being Scarface.
I love that.
But the last one, you've got scenes from Italian Job that you relive, right?
It's all different heist movies.
It's not like they recreate the missions.
They steal them directly from movies, and that's what I love about it.
tim pool
I gotta say, here's an article, and this is a clip, apparently, of the character, I guess.
I'm so...
What's the right word?
Put off by the attempt of shoehorning this stuff into games, my tolerance is gone.
It's gone.
It's zero.
So, have you seen the Dragon Age thing?
hotep jesus
I have not.
tim pool
Okay, let's do this.
For those that don't know, Dragon Age Veilguard woke.
It's a default search.
Google already has it pulled up.
This is a AAA video game that bombed.
And look at this.
They say, this is from the 24th.
Veilguard's clumsy, preachy, political messaging does more harm than good.
hotep jesus
She's not hot.
brett dasovic
Hundreds of millions of dollars it costs, too.
tim pool
Do they have the video in here?
Here you go.
You ready for this one?
So I'm going to play this for you.
What they're saying now is the game didn't resonate with a large enough audience.
I wonder why.
Listen to this.
It's not expanding, so I'm opening up the next.
Let's play it.
unidentified
Bounding that snake's nose.
She's still holding the ruby in her other hand.
Maker's panties.
I was so proud.
Oh, um...
Ah, shit.
They.
They're still holding it.
Sorry.
phil labonte
Good grief.
tim pool
Watch, watch, watch.
brett dasovic
What are you doing?
unidentified
Pulling a barve.
Oh.
Okay.
A barve?
Tradition in the Lords of Fortune.
From one of our old members, barve.
Good guy, but like most of us, his plans went sideways a lot.
Bad blood among your crews, not good for morale, but there's not always time for big drawn-out apologies.
So when one of us screws up and we know we've screwed up, we do a quick ten to put it right.
Pulling a barve.
tim pool
Pretty sure a three-minute explanation and ten push-ups with an explanation with pulling a barve as a name of it is a long drawn-out apology, but this is two minutes long.
unidentified
Look at this.
tim pool
You are forced to interact with this.
Here you go.
That's very open-minded.
hotep jesus
I'm glad the Lords of Fortune have Tarsh's back.
unidentified
Oh, Tarsh isn't the first non-binary member of the Lords.
phil labonte
Oh, my God.
No wonder why this was a flop.
hotep jesus
Oh, brother.
unidentified
Bastard looked better than I did in a dress or pants.
phil labonte
What?
tim pool
And out of them, too.
hotep jesus
I let my kids wait in.
tim pool
Look it, look it.
Here you go.
unidentified
Any reason you can't just apologize?
Sometimes people say, oops, sorry, and hope that fixes it.
But they just want to get the whole thing over with.
Trust me, I know.
But pulling a bath, you sweat a little.
Makes you think about it a little more.
Shows the other person you mean it.
phil labonte
What if they mean it when they say they're sorry, though?
unidentified
And that's the other reason.
tim pool
We don't need to hear the rest of this.
Clearly, the developers were intending to make pulling a bar of a thing among people.
This game bombed?
Look, I... I love Dragon Age.
It's a great game.
I did not play this one.
I will never touch that controller.
It's a free game now.
So that's the big news.
It's been out for only a couple months, and it's available now as a free download for PS Plus.
brett dasovic
Look, men love games and movies that set you out on adventures.
Women love stories where you sit around and talk.
tim pool
And pull barbs.
brett dasovic
And pull barbs.
hotep jesus
I wouldn't let my kids play this game.
I unplugged the PlayStation after they was playing this.
Oops.
I remember we were playing, not the last Spider-Man, but the Spider-Man before that.
And it was like this extra mission.
And then you get the BLM costume.
Because my kids, I brainwash them with the right-wing politics.
So they were like, oh my God, look at the Black Lives Matter on the wall.
Oh my God.
I was like, see?
Teach them, I said, they'll put the propaganda right in the video games.
It's absolutely disgusting.
That's terrible.
brett dasovic
Show them the Middle Eastern version of that game that doesn't have the pride flags.
hotep jesus
Really?
tim pool
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Yeah, you can't pull that in the Middle East.
brett dasovic
Well, because it's still from a company that wants to sell things in other regions, right?
So they're only politically correct here.
tim pool
So basically, my view is largely this.
My tolerance for anything like that, there is some rumors.
That they want to do a Bonnie and Clyde style thing, which means it's not going to be a female protagonist.
It's going to be one or the other.
hotep jesus
Right.
tim pool
I don't care.
hotep jesus
You're going to play as both.
tim pool
I'm not going to buy the game.
hotep jesus
You're not going to buy this one?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Why?
I'm going to wait a month or two and then just see what happens first because I'm too jaded from...
It's not just that they're making it a woman.
It's really not that big a deal.
I don't trust these games.
You get any inkling of, like, they're trying to go in that direction, and I'm going to wait a month.
hotep jesus
GTA is usually...
brett dasovic
It's a very different world now.
tim pool
They haven't made a game in a decade.
I won the last game 12 years ago.
hotep jesus
But it's Trump's era now.
brett dasovic
Yeah, but this wasn't...
phil labonte
It was made during the...
Well, in the past 10 years.
hotep jesus
I got faith in Rockstar.
brett dasovic
I got faith in Rockstar.
hotep jesus
If you listen to the radio during GTA 5, they were making fun of the woke stuff in GTA 5. You remember, you listen to the radio, they make fun of liberals through the entire game.
I'm telling you.
So I can only imagine what's going to happen here.
phil labonte
I want you to be right.
tim pool
I want you to be right, too.
I just think, ten years is a long...
When was five made?
2013?
hotep jesus
Yeah, it was a minute.
tim pool
And in that time, ten years, you have a 16-year-old woman, ten years later, she's 26, and she's working at these companies, and these companies are going to be different.
Like Bud Light.
hotep jesus
My only issue is, you know, she's just not that pretty, man.
You know, they could have got AOC to get an AOC face.
tim pool
That's the sign.
Look at it.
That's the sign.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
Look at it.
Okay, I'm going to pull this up for you guys.
hotep jesus
Yeah, it's a bad sign.
Her face is a bad sign.
It's a little too thick.
Her face is too bulgy.
You know, the geometry is off on her face.
tim pool
Let me see if I can find the Sue Storm.
I think this is it right here.
hotep jesus
Looks like she had too many burritos.
She's a gotita.
tim pool
So this is what they did for Marvel Rivals.
And the women there are drawn like they're naked.
I'm not...
Right.
And so the issue is, whenever they start making frumpy women in these games, it's like, I don't trust...
If Rockstar was being Rockstar, she would be...
A little bit more over the top.
hotep jesus
Her arms are big.
Her arms are big, man.
She's been at Cluckin' Bell too many times.
brett dasovic
Your attitude is actually really, really common now.
For me, it's the same way.
If I start a new show, I tell you all the time, look, I don't have any faith in new media that comes out.
So if there's a new show that comes out, it takes about four episodes of me where they have to get it right 100% of the time.
If anything sticks out to me as particularly noticeable with over-the-top political messaging, I just turn it off immediately.
It's not worth it.
hotep jesus
Listen, I'm black.
Y'all don't know how bad it is to be black because I can't watch a black show and not run into this stuff.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm sitting around watching Power.
Power is one of my favorite shows.
brett dasovic
The first season of Power is one of my favorite television seasons ever.
hotep jesus
You cannot go through a season and not get something that's woke.
unidentified
And I'm like, damn, they even got my boy 50. I didn't watch anything past the original series.
hotep jesus
Everything black got something in there that's woke.
brett dasovic
Introduction to Ghost in that show is one of the greatest introductions to a character ever.
tim pool
What show are you guys talking about?
brett dasovic
Power with Omari Hardwick and I guess 50 Cent later.
tim pool
Is that a TV show?
brett dasovic
TV show.
50 Cent produced it.
Was it Courtney?
tim pool
What was it about?
brett dasovic
It's about a drug kingpin who runs a nightclub.
And it's really, really freaking good.
At least that first three or four seasons were really, really freaking good.
hotep jesus
Gangster.
brett dasovic
Joseph Sikora plays one of the greatest villains you'll ever see.
What's funny about it is Ghost is like this guy.
He's a drug kingpin.
He runs a nightclub.
But really, he's a dude who's kind of torn between worlds.
He wants to go legit.
And the whole show is about him kind of dreaming about going legit and not being able to do so.
hotep jesus
Underworld keeps going.
brett dasovic
Exactly.
But his best friend wants none of it.
And actually laughs at him at the idea of ever going legit.
And they made the white dude the absolute unrepentant street dude.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
brett dasovic
It's crazy.
hotep jesus
Tommy's pretty scary.
brett dasovic
Yeah, Tommy's amazing.
Everyone should at least watch the first three or four seasons of that show.
hotep jesus
It's really good.
But you're lucky you're white, man.
White privilege is being able to watch something without wokeness.
That's where we are right now.
brett dasovic
I mean, not a whole lot, but...
tim pool
So you're saying, wait, you're saying power?
It is or is not woke?
hotep jesus
They have some wokeness.
It's not woke, but they slide.
tim pool
It's all like that.
I just saw that movie Companion.
Have you guys heard of the movie Companion?
brett dasovic
Heard of it, have not seen it.
tim pool
So I just watched it.
The trailer is miserably awful.
So it's like I'm on Amazon and I saw that.
And the trailer, like the movie's thumbnail, I guess you'd call it, it looks like a guy whispering to a robot woman and his companion.
So my assumption was it must be about a guy who has like a fake robot wife or whatever.
Then you watch the trailer and the trailer just looks like some weird chick flick drama.
And I'm like, I'm watching that.
And today I was like, well, you know, we watched everything else.
We put it on.
It is, in fact, about a guy who has a robot wife.
And for some reason, it's a guy and his robot wife and a gay couple.
And I'm like, okay, listen.
It's fine.
When sometimes there's gay characters in a movie, the problem is every single studio says, hey, we should put a gay couple.
We should have two guys hooking up in this film.
And it's like, guys, when you all do it, it's weird that it's 100% of films doing it.
So that's the woke stuff, right?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
For whatever reason, they decided they're going to put all of this gay stuff in all these films, and it's just every movie now.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
So now I've got to watch white stuff like Tulsa King.
brett dasovic
Tulsa King's good too.
hotep jesus
It's amazing.
brett dasovic
I would check out Paradise with Sterling K. Brown.
hotep jesus
Paradise is my, that's my joint.
tim pool
What is that about?
brett dasovic
Well, the world comes to an end and they have to build a world underground and they select 25,000 people to go live underground.
hotep jesus
Remember how Truman Show had that fake world?
brett dasovic
It's kind of like Wayward Pines meets The Truman Show.
Sterling K. Brown is probably one of the best actors working today.
But even in that, there's a little bit of like...
The white characters are all kind of like vile and they have layers.
But Sterling K. Brown isn't really allowed to do that.
He has to kind of be perfect all the time because they don't want to risk any of the black characters seeming like they could be bad guys.
So they're all what the term in culture is soulful saints, meaning they can't have any flaws whatsoever.
And it does him a disservice because he doesn't get to stretch his legs as an actor while all the other characters get to be like his best friend.
They think he's a bad guy.
He is a bad guy.
hotep jesus
You're even suspecting him.
brett dasovic
Yeah, like the end of the episode, they're like, you can't trust Billy.
Billy, and he's just got the meanest face you've ever seen in an entire life.
Ends up he's flawed, but he's still friends with him.
He gets layers, but the other characters don't because the writers are terrified to write characters that are not white in anything other than perfect.
hotep jesus
That's what I'm saying.
brett dasovic
They should hire me.
I can't write it, but I'll be like, hey, fix this.
tim pool
What I don't understand in all of these things is why they haven't figured it out yet, but we all have.
It's like, hey, I got an idea.
Remember Iron Man 1?
You made a billion dollars off it and launched this big multi-billion dollar franchise we all loved?
Now look at what you're making with Captain America Brave New World.
Can you now see the difference?
phil labonte
Even if they figured it out, like, a year ago?
They've still got all this stuff that's been in production for more years.
brett dasovic
It's going to take years.
phil labonte
It's going to take time for it to actually filter out into society.
I imagine there are a lot of people in Hollywood and in the entertainment industry that are like, look, this isn't good.
This is not working.
We need to change right now, immediately.
We need to do what we can to patch up the things that have not been released yet that are just starting production.
We need to start production on things that do not focus on these type of topics.
hotep jesus
What's going to happen?
What's going to happen is we're going to start moving to foreign films, like the platform, right?
Yep.
I thought that was phenomenal.
tim pool
I didn't see that one.
What was that one about?
hotep jesus
How do you even describe the platform?
So basically, there's this platform, right?
So let's say you've done something wrong.
Like, what's the thing with the game?
Squid Games, right?
It's like Squid Games, but there's this platform, and then basically you have, let's say, Floor 1 and then Floor 100. And everybody gets to have their favorite food added to this platform.
So as it gets to the bottom, naturally, by the time it gets to the bottom, it ain't nothing but bones.
But then there's like this lottery, and it shuffles, so you get put on a different platform, and then it gets really gory.
tim pool
Are people living on the platform or something?
hotep jesus
Yeah, it's like jail.
tim pool
Oh, I see.
hotep jesus
So the platform low is like, you got like two minutes, you got to eat what you can.
tim pool
Or you get crushed?
hotep jesus
People get crushed.
People get tossed over.
It gets really bloody and gory, right?
My point is, there's a lot of foreign writing.
For example, Black Mirror.
Black Mirror was great season one and two because they had the foreign writers.
As soon as they passed it on to Netflix and sold it off, you could tell where the writers changed.
brett dasovic
They're not bogged down with the same identity politics that we are here in America.
tim pool
But I'll tell you this, Squid Games 2 sucked and was woke.
hotep jesus
I didn't watch it.
I refused.
I heard you and other people say it.
tim pool
Don't watch it.
Don't watch it.
I was skipping through a lot of it.
So basically what they did was they said, we have an idea.
The first, I would say like the beginning is really good.
hotep jesus
Okay.
tim pool
And then the first episode is like starts off kind of slow, gets a little good, gets a little bad.
Second episode is a little good and then just falls completely off and there's no ending.
It's a fake season.
It's where they draw it out as long as possible and then it ends without any conclusion to anything happening.
So, nothing ends.
And they have a trans character in the show who is invincible and can do no wrong and saves everybody.
And they spend probably like, I don't know, a decent amount of the show explaining why it's...
So it starts with an old woman in the Squid Games seeing the trans person and getting mad.
And then they start explaining to you why it's okay to be trans.
Then they have the trans person save a bunch of people and be the hero.
And I'm like, dude, I don't care if you have a trans person in the show, but you're beating me in the face with the bag of sweet Valencia oranges over here, man.
hotep jesus
I wouldn't have made it through the first episode, man.
tim pool
It's not the first episode, though.
It's like by episode three.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So I'll give you a partial spoiler, right?
Main character dude from the first one.
Some stuff happens.
He finds himself back in the game.
You'd see that through the trailer.
So the first episode, he's not in the game.
Then he's in the game.
And in the game, they introduce new characters.
There's an old woman, and she's like, why does that man look like a woman?
And then everyone's like, you can't say that.
That person is transgender.
Then they end up teaming up with a trans person.
Then during the games, the trans person saves the day by being able to help people perform tasks they couldn't perform.
And it is ham-fisted and punching you in the face over and over again.
Screaming, empathize with this person.
They're a good person.
And then it just stops.
The show just ends.
I'm going to tell you this.
You watch the show.
There's probably one episode's worth of story over eight episodes.
And then it just ends without resolving anything.
So actually, imagine you have an hour-long show.
It reaches the end of act two.
You're approaching the climax.
And then right before the climax of the show, it ends.
It rolls credits.
And that's it.
Now, normally, you'd be like, let's watch the next episode.
Now, imagine the whole show was that.
And you're basically waiting.
Boring, boring, boring, boring, boring, boring.
Oh man, something's happening!
And then the season's over, and you're like, but nothing happened.
That's Squid Game.
hotep jesus
That's terrible.
tim pool
So pissed.
brett dasovic
That is one of the reasons that streaming is struggling.
TV was better when it was 22 episodes a year, and you got a bunch of filler episodes.
Now every episode is filler, and it's eight episodes with really about one episode's worth of story that they drag out.
Even Paradise moves a little slow.
tim pool
But hold on, hold on.
hotep jesus
Paradise does move a little slow.
tim pool
The first Squid Game was good.
hotep jesus
It was great.
tim pool
And they had something with season two.
But instead of saying, hey, let's finish our story in eight episodes, they said, let's take...
Okay, so I imagine they have a story to fill eight episodes.
They probably wrote the treatments, episode one, two, three, four.
By episode three, they said, stop.
Don't use any of the remaining treatments we have and end the season on episode three.
But we need eight episodes.
Stretch episode three out to eight episodes.
Okay.
And so that's basically what it is.
And then they say, wait, wait, but don't end episode three because episode three ends with a cliffhanger.
It's supposed to go in episode four, right?
So it just basically you get five episodes where, I'm going to tell you, probably a half an hour of each episode is people sitting in the waiting room talking.
I'm not kidding.
brett dasovic
Yep.
tim pool
So you know how in Squid Games they have the big waiting room with the bunk beds?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
Half of each episode is people just hanging out talking.
brett dasovic
And it's cheaper to do that too.
tim pool
And in a couple of episodes, half of it is talking about why it's good to be trans.
hotep jesus
I bet you if you look it up, Netflix probably bought the rights from the writers and then took it over.
I guarantee if you look it up, that's probably what happened.
tim pool
Maybe because the original guy who made it was like, here's my story, bye.
And they said, how can we make more money off it?
hotep jesus
Right.
Because that's what Netflix does.
They see something that's great, a series that's got a brand, and they're like, we can milk this.
And the dude's like, I only wrote one season.
brett dasovic
Here's the problem, though, is Netflix is the most dominant of those streamers, and it's not even close.
Not even close.
Seven out of the ten top shows every week are consistently Netflix shows.
tim pool
Here's the other thing.
I think Severance is awful, and I couldn't get past the first episode.
In fact, when he walked for two minutes, I turned it off.
brett dasovic
Imagine watching Apple TV. I know, seriously.
tim pool
But people say Severance is great.
Okay, Lost is evil garbage, and From is evil garbage.
And then I was told that Severance is very much like Lost and From all the same, and I said, I don't watch those fake shows.
These are fake shows, and I mean it.
The way a fake show works, like, anybody who's watched Lost knows it's a fake show.
And if you've watched from...
hotep jesus
What's a fake show?
tim pool
The way it works is, we will be in...
Okay, Ryder says, give me a nondescript location.
How about, it's a podcast studio and the doors are all closed.
Okay, why are they there?
We don't know.
brett dasovic
It's called the Mystery Box.
That's James, that's J.J. Abrams.
tim pool
Okay, now, they're there.
So what happens when there's a place?
Well, clearly they want to get out, right?
Yes, and they're hungry.
We're going to need some kind of shock content by the end of the first episode.
Otherwise, people will be bored and won't come back.
Okay, so in the first episode, they're trapped in a podcast studio.
The doors won't open.
Nobody remembers how they got there.
And they start arguing with each other because they're hungry and there's nowhere to go bathroom.
So then you have some conflict there.
And then what we're going to do is at the end of the episode, we're going to have a loud roar shake the building.
And then all of a sudden, you're going to hear banging on the door and scratching.
And then the characters look at each other.
The show ends.
Show ends.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Okay.
Next episode starts, and you hear the door.
The door breaks open.
And then splinters go flying.
You're like, whoa, what happened?
And then there's nothing there.
Nobody's there.
So basically, fake shows, the way they work is, writers will write probably one page and say, have them fight with each other, and then only at the last minute...
I don't know.
A dragon screams and you hear a screech.
And then the next episode, they go, okay, so why was the dragon screeching?
The dragon is underground?
Okay, great.
Let's start that.
And then at the end of this episode, what happens?
At the end of this episode, lava bursts from the floor.
Okay, and the episode ends.
That's how From is.
You ever watch From?
hotep jesus
No.
tim pool
And what I was told was it's kind of how Severance is as well, but I stopped watching Severance because it started doing this, so I turned it off.
It shows where they clearly haven't written it.
They say, give us a premise of people trapped, and then at the end of every episode, insert a random thing.
So, famously, from, the guy finds a lighthouse, and then he hears a music box, and then he turns around, and there's a music box on the ground, and he's shaking, and the episode ends.
Nothing happened!
But that's a fake show, right?
Nothing's happening.
brett dasovic
Everybody knows that Alias is J.J. Abrams' best work.
tim pool
We're going to go to Super Chats.
Smash the like button.
Share the show with everyone.
You know, explain to me why you think Severance is a good show because I turned it on and then, I don't know the actor's name, but he walked through a hall for a minute and a half.
I looked at Allison and she looked at me.
We shrugged and we turned it off.
No, I'm not kidding.
You watched it, right?
brett dasovic
I just, I make fun of Apple TV constantly.
I don't have a monocle.
I'm not highbrow enough to watch Apple TV. People apparently love those shows.
tim pool
They love Lost.
They love From.
They love Severance.
And I don't know how much Severance is like that because as soon as I get an inkling they're doing that, I stop watching it.
So I'm off.
Alright, here we go.
We're going to grab Super Chats and Rumble Rants from y'all.
Shane H. Wilder says, Happy Friday, guys.
Brett has asked everyone to remember to help the Brett Dasvick Foundation to save the gongo.
He is passionate about this.
brett dasovic
Yes.
phil labonte
I told him about it last night.
brett dasovic
Yeah, you have to explain.
We were making fun of the people when you're complaining about something online.
Like, how can you care about this issue when there's a genocide going on in Gaza or a femicide going on in the Congo?
And I screwed it up and I said femigenocide in the Congo.
tim pool
Femigenocide.
brett dasovic
I think I said genocide in the Congo, but we'll just say it's a femigenocide.
phil labonte
It's my favorite meme in a long time.
brett dasovic
Yeah, it's very good.
We can save them, guys.
tim pool
Nixon says, Tim, bring back the best docu-series ever made, K-O-T-R. Where there's a will, there's a way, good sir.
Are you saying King of the Road?
brett dasovic
Knights of the Old Republic?
tim pool
The first thing I thought was Knights of the Old Republic, but that's K-T-O-R. Yes.
Wait.
Wait.
Knights of...
No, it's...
It is K-T-O-R because it's KOTOR. It's K-O-T-O-R. Or it could be King of the Ring.
Yeah.
King of the Road was a skateboard thing where they had, like...
A handful of teams were each given tasks they had to perform and then told to go on this road trip and they'd film themselves trying to do things where it would be like...
brett dasovic
Funded it.
That sounds awesome.
tim pool
I think these people didn't get paid a lot of money.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Yeah.
But it would be like you have a list, a to-do list on your trip and it's, you know...
hotep jesus
That's not rule rules?
tim pool
No.
King of the Road was like skateboarders being told you've got to tray flip a tense there.
You've got to kick flip front board.
hotep jesus
Oh, okay.
brett dasovic
There was a skate contest during COVID where everybody basically got tasks.
They had to go and film and then make edits.
hotep jesus
Yeah, I remember Road Rules.
Oh, that was great, man.
Real World and Road Rules.
That was the beginning of reality TV. Absolutely.
tim pool
Kenneth Hart says, Tim, didn't mean to put you on the spot.
PCC is sort of becoming its own subculture.
Went looking for a podcast while you're on Christmas break.
Figured the audio wouldn't suck.
Now I listen daily.
You should listen to Pop Culture Crisis.
brett dasovic
Monday through Friday, guys, at 3 p.m.
unidentified
Eastern.
brett dasovic
What are you doing?
You're at work.
You're probably bored.
Put one headphone in and watch.
unidentified
Come on.
tim pool
PopCultureCrisis.com Yes.
brett dasovic
You asked me that one time.
I'm like, I have no idea.
tim pool
Because you were like youtube.com slash popculturecrisis and I was like, or popculturecrisis.com.
brett dasovic
Or go to timcast.com and you can find it on there as well.
tim pool
Yeah, if you go to timcast.com at 3 o'clock, it's fine.
What do we have here?
Polly Puree says, Tim is right about Obama.
Obama was as tough on illegals as Trump.
Obama didn't have the big mess that old Joe had.
brett dasovic
Deporter-in-chief.
tim pool
He wasn't as tough, but he was the deporter-in-chief, people called him.
Yeah, and then Joe came in and was like, open the door!
Surge the border.
Jason Dixon says, Tim, great guest idea.
See Noski with Quiet Part Out Loud podcast.
From your Discord, he started from here, from your community.
Join TimCast.com.
Indeed.
And we are actually trying to find a way when we will have him booked and in the schedule.
brett dasovic
That's awesome.
tim pool
We had Romination on.
hotep jesus
Congratulations.
tim pool
For those that don't know, timcast.com.
You click join us.
Then there's the Discord server.
You sign up.
You're in this community.
20,000 plus individuals all hanging out.
And we've had a handful of people launch podcasts in the server because everybody's there hanging out already.
Imagine this.
You go on the server and you're like, I'm going to start a show and there's 20,000 people just listening to your show right away.
It's the coolest thing ever.
brett dasovic
Whenever they do the post show, I would go in and spam Fetterman 2028. Oh, there you go.
tim pool
Let's see.
What have we here?
Down and out Nashville says, Congratulations, Tim.
Great job on family.
I've got one daughter and four beautiful grandkids.
Everything else in life is just a bonus.
hotep jesus
Wow!
tim pool
That's based.
Very cool.
Let's see what we got in the old rumble rants.
What are y'all saying over here?
All right.
Fader says, how many wins are the Denver Broncos getting in the 2025 season?
And is there an ETA on Timcast Sports?
Can you get Joy Reid to host?
I think one of the easiest things we can do is actually Saturdays to start with Chuck and Kellen and, I don't know, maybe some other people, and do a sports show.
Ideally, we would do something every single day.
We've got to figure out the space for it.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
We've got to put up a space to do it.
Put it in one of the RVs.
tim pool
Yeah, well, we were talking, because we have the two trailers that are set up to be mobile studios.
The problem is the, like, AC insulation.
brett dasovic
In the summer, it's insane.
tim pool
Right, and bathrooms, and so we could, you know, we could figure something out.
All right, Evan for USS, did y'all see Cash talk about the U.S. Army soldiers stealing U.S. intelligence and how they'll face justice?
I did.
Yo, Cash is boost.
You heard this?
unidentified
Mm-mm.
Yeah.
tim pool
He announced that they arrested two dudes who were selling secrets.
unidentified
Mm.
tim pool
He's getting the business.
Yep.
Jammy Brocodile says, hate playing politics, but I think Trump should sit on the Chauvin verdict till later in the term.
Doing it now will only keep the racist BS going.
But let's get a pardon for Jammy and save the brocodile.
unidentified
Okay.
brett dasovic
That's a real hard one to get people politics.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Yeah.
All right.
Let's see what else we have here.
unidentified
We'll pull up one of these super chits.
tim pool
Oh, what is this?
What is this?
Gandalf the Bay says, Gavin ends his term, endorses Kamala for governor.
Gavin leads a new podcast, grows new ideas, runs in 2028. He is gunning for the head of the party.
Indeed he is.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Yeah.
Hotel Llama says, should we email YouTube list of channels doing illegal ads now so they don't get caught before it's too late?
There are so many channels that are doing ads that are illegal or in violation of YouTube's rules.
I'm not going to get into it, but yo, I tell you this every day.
I have ad salespeople will be like, we've got this sponsor who wants to buy that spot.
And then I say, awesome.
Let me check the policies and procedures of YouTube and our other distribution platforms.
And then I come back and say, that ad is an instant strike on YouTube.
You can't sell that product on YouTube.
And they go, but everyone else does.
Yeah.
So the funny thing is, like, even knives.
We had a company super cool.
It's a kitchen knife set.
Yeah, you ain't doing that.
YouTube's rules around knives are something to the effect of, like, it's fine to advocate to do ad reads for kitchen utensils so long as they're not weapons.
Good luck.
YouTube's going to be like, we got you.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
And they'll make some argument.
They'll make it up.
But the crazy thing is, so what happened to me was I did some ad reads.
10 years ago for what I consider to be normal and legal products.
Got two videos taken down but only one strike.
I then appealed to YouTube and they ignored me.
So I went to Google directly.
The Google rep said they couldn't find anything in the video that actually broke any of you.
Check this out.
The Google rep says, nothing in your video violates the YouTube guidelines.
And I said, so can you tell me why I got a strike?
And they said, We're not entirely sure.
Give me a minute.
Ten minutes later, they said, we've removed the strike from your channel and restored the video with a smiley face.
We're sorry this happened to you.
And I said, thank you so much.
So what I did was I went to YouTube Help.
You find your way through to chat and you get a rep.
And what happened was, I learned this later from my YouTube rep.
I immediately deleted the videos and they told me, your videos didn't, those strikes were real.
They should have stayed on your channel.
That strike was real.
It should have stayed on your channel.
The videos should have remained suspended.
The reason why the rep didn't know what was going on is because they thought this is a YouTube strike violating YouTube's rules.
And what they didn't realize is that YouTube strikes can be applied based on AdWords rules.
So Google AdWords has...
To which I responded, you mean to tell me that even though I looked at all the rules and double-checked to make sure everything I'm saying is totally fine, I can still get a strike because I didn't know there were extra rules based on ad reads?
And they said yes.
So since then, I have been like...
Well, okay.
Now that I know that, YouTube has advertising rules that apply to a YouTube, to a podcast, whatever.
You're on YouTube.
YouTube ad rules are like no guns.
You cannot advertise guns.
You cannot advertise inhalants of any kind.
Those things.
So that means no shouting out these brands.
No shouting them out or anything like that.
Those aren't listed in YouTube's rules.
YouTube does have rules like you can't have guns on camera.
I'm sorry.
YouTube's rules are no live streaming of guns ever.
And gun content must be in approved locations like gun shops and ranges.
hotep jesus
Wait, what if you've got guns in your background?
tim pool
That's fine.
You can't touch them.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Decorative guns are fine.
You cannot advertise them, but the rules on advertising are ad rules, not YouTube guideline rules.
So it may have changed.
They may have overlapped them.
But I do know that if you go to ad rules, you will find insane.
It is an encyclopedia of rules.
Because there's so many rules and regulations on various products that here's another thing for you.
If it's illegal federally, it's a bannable offense on YouTube.
Doesn't matter what your state says.
Just something people should understand.
So when the feds say you cannot sell pharmaceutical drugs and you got a bunch of these independent anti-establishment guys doing ads for pharmaceutical drugs and they are, they're going to get banned.
Yep.
And you can just Google it.
I'm not going to...
hotep jesus
Everybody go ahead, type it in your calendar.
tim pool
I don't want to put it in the spot for one reason.
You say the name of the individual who has done something like this...
hotep jesus
And they're going to say you targeted, you attacked.
tim pool
No, the left is going to immediately bombard and go after those channels.
hotep jesus
Oh yeah, that's true.
tim pool
So, I'm saying this right now, more generally speaking, because the people who are out there are like, I've talked to people, I've told them.
hotep jesus
March 7th, Timcast called it, Mark your calendars, listeners.
tim pool
Maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe it gets overlooked completely.
But again, I'm going to say this.
When Dr. Malone was leaving, and I hope he doesn't mind he mentions, I mentioned something we said, you know, as we were leaving.
But I explained to him, like, there's a lot of channels that are doing ad reads for prescription drugs.
And he said, I know, I can't believe the FDA hasn't gone after them for this.
And I was like, I don't think Trump's FDA will.
I think YouTube will, under the guise of, the FDA says that you're not allowed to do this.
hotep jesus
And the thing is, they could let it accumulate.
Exactly.
tim pool
Or, to elaborate on what you're saying, you'll get one strike and be suspended for a week.
You'll come back for a week or two.
You'll get a second strike and be gone for two weeks.
Then they'll wait for one strike to go away within three months and then keep hitting you, reducing your content output by, let's just say it's 8%, but that's the math game they're playing.
People who are pro-Trump and anti-establishment, We need to suppress them by 7% and boost liberals by 7% so that everybody flows in one direction.
And then they avoid the ban problem.
You ban someone, you create a massive PR campaign, lawsuits, conflict, legal challenges, suppress them, and you effectively do the same thing.
So instead of banning one big person like Alex Jones, they would have been better off lightly suppressing 10 channels.
By 10% instead of one channel by 100%.
They learned that lesson.
It's coming.
It's coming.
Yep.
Alright.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe it's ignored.
I don't think I'm wrong, though.
Trent Jones says, PCC will hit 800 episodes soon.
Everyone should tune in because Brett and Mary will be holding a telethon for the Gongo people being femigenocided.
brett dasovic
Okay, now they're scheduling my shows for me.
I said none of this.
But we do have episode 800 coming up.
We just finished 792 today.
phil labonte
Geez.
tim pool
That's crazy.
phil labonte
It might be a marathon for the gongo people.
unidentified
Could be.
tim pool
Could be.
Sterling Wilson says, YouTube can nuke conservatives, but wouldn't that force people to use Rumble?
YouTube alphabet stock crashes and Rumble skyrockets to the moon.
No, that's wrong.
Now, I will say, Rumble stock will go up if more people start using it for these reasons.
So, if there's a prominent...
They got two and a half million subs, and they get banned on YouTube.
They're absolutely going to be on Rumble, and that's really, really good for Rumble, but it's still an attempt to cut off an audience.
I will stress this to all of you.
We are live on Rumble and on YouTube, and I guarantee you 80% of the people who watch the show had no idea.
Even though we say every day, subscribe to Rumble Premium.
So there are probably people who...
Don't understand why the Uncensored show isn't on TimCast.com anymore.
I am not disparaging people.
I'm saying most people don't get the memo because they watch the show for the content, not for the advertisements or the plugs.
So they'll skip ahead when the show starts, ignore the plugs, listen to us talk, say I love this show, and then end when we get super chats and say, you know, that's fine.
They read super chats.
I'm out.
And then they don't realize we're on other platforms.
If YouTube nukes this show, they're going to say, what happened?
It's gone.
And then they're going to be scrolling through YouTube.
It won't pop up.
And they'll click something else.
That's the way it works.
All right, everybody.
If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button?
Share the show with everyone you know.
Join us at Rumble Premium.
Go to timcastpremium.com.
It'll reject you right to Rumble to use promo code TIM10. Sign up.
Rumble has to win.
Because for everything I've described, we need to be building these platforms now.
And Rumble is a premier video podcasting platform.
If you're launching a video podcast, good luck on YouTube.
You're not going to get monetized.
You're likely going to get banned.
That's the reality.
Good luck on Spotify.
Spotify is not bad, but their reach is very, very low.
Start on Rumble and you're going to start off with substantially higher viewership.
I'll put it this way.
We've been on Spotify for years.
We got like 30,000 views per Spotify video.
On Rumble, we get 300. And we just started.
So it's 10x.
Massive.
And Rumble is growing.
So the opportunity now is to go with the platforms.
The train is leaving the station.
You're trying to play catch-up on YouTube.
Good luck.
You're trying to play catch-up on Spotify.
Good luck.
But Rumble is sitting there waiting for you to board.
So you can follow me on Instagram at TimCastHotepJesus.
Do you want to shout anything out?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
Grifties.
March 29th.
Grifties.com, March 29th, Tiff's Comedy Club, March 29th.
We got Shane Cashman.
We got Milo and Alex Stein under the same roof.
Oh, Lord.
Shout out to Sonny Johnson, the whole crew.
We are going this year, again, fifth annual Grifties.
We're going to crown the Grifter of the Year live at Tiff's Comedy Club, March 29th.
Get your tickets.
brett dasovic
Guys, if you want to follow me, I'm on Instagram and on Twix at Brett Dasvick on both of those platforms, but you should check out Pop Culture Crisis.
We are live here five days a week, Monday through Friday at 3 p.m.
Eastern.
That's noon.
If you're in Pacific Time Zone, come check it out, guys.
phil labonte
I am PhilThatRemains on Twix.
I'm PhilThatRemainsOfficial on Instagram.
The band is All That Remains.
You can check out our new record.
It's called Anti-Fragile.
It's available on YouTube, Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Deezer.
I think I got them all.
Don't forget the left names for crime.
tim pool
We'll see you all throughout the weekend with clips on Timcast IRL, and then we're back Monday.
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