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Jan. 9, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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LA Wildfires WIPE OUT Entire Towns, Trump WARNED Us On Rogan MONTHS AGO w/Nick Shirley | Timcast IRL
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tim pool
The wildfires in Los Angeles are getting worse.
There's a photo that's going viral that just shows the Pacific Palisades are gone.
If you don't know, this is a neighborhood in the Los Angeles area, and it's just been completely wiped out.
This is a really sad video of James Woods breaking down in tears because of the elderly neighbors that he has, the rest of their lives, and just everyone's lives being destroyed.
Man, it's getting brutal out there.
I hope everybody gets out.
The death toll is now up to five, but people expect it, officials expect it to get worse.
There's actually several fires in the area right now, and the political angle here, the story, is that, let's just not mince words, several months ago, Donald Trump appeared on the Joe Rogan podcast and warned they don't have water in Southern California because of this environmental animal policy on the Delta smelt.
A lot of people have been talking about it, and not to mention the issue of homeless individuals setting fires.
So this has been epic mismanagement from day one.
And I think it's important to point out this viral clip from Trump where he says exactly this.
They're not getting the water down.
And now fire hydrants are empty.
Firefighters are overwhelmed.
They don't have the resources to fight this fire.
And I don't know what the current percentage is at, but not even that long ago.
The fires in California were at 0% contained, burning for over 24 hours, spreading rapidly.
It's horrifying stuff, man.
We're going to break down a bunch of these stories because it's a massive, you know, you have the individual story of the fires, but then each smaller story within it, such as there's a video of power lines sparking and shooting, just bursting next to trees.
Nobody doing anything about it.
You've got the story of, as I mentioned, the homeless people, the failures of water, all of these things lining up.
And then it gets weird.
Insurance companies dropped tons of these homes, specifically covering fire insurance, between a few months and a few weeks ago.
The insurance companies knew.
And if they knew, the government knew.
And so here we are, dealing with the failures of policy, and we'll get into all that.
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phil labonte
That's right.
unidentified
There you go.
tim pool
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ian crossland
They will.
You are right now.
tim pool
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we got Nick Shirley.
unidentified
Thank you for having me on.
I'm excited.
tim pool
Who are you?
What do you do?
unidentified
I'm an independent YouTube journalist.
Go all across the world, whether it be...
The jails in El Salvador or the streets of New York City talking to migrant gangs.
Wow.
Talking to everybody.
tim pool
I've seen some of your clips where you're like asking people, and it's like a very dry, like, hey, what do you think about this?
And then you see people sometimes freak out.
unidentified
Yeah, I just ask people stuff and let them explain.
They either make themselves look really good or make themselves look really bad.
tim pool
Isn't it crazy that you can just do journalism?
You can just show up and ask people the questions.
unidentified
Yeah.
I mean, there's an art to it.
There's some ways you've got to do it, but yeah, it's pretty amazing.
I love just going to talk with people.
tim pool
Right on, man.
It's going to be fun.
Thanks for joining us.
We've got Ian hanging out.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's good to be back, man.
Thanks for having me, everybody.
And also, shout out to everybody that picked up a bag of Graphene Dream.
That's super cool.
Keep it up.
That low-acidity coffee is another beast.
Once you have it, you realize, ooh, I can handle another cup of that.
A lot easier.
And also, I want to thank Michaela Peterson.
She sent us, with her company, FullerHealth.co, this product called After Party.
What is it?
It's dihydromyricetin.
It's a chemical derived from Japanese raisins and that they've used for years, centuries, millennia, as an herbal supplement for a hangover cure.
I think a lot of people use it for that.
tim pool
I have a hangover cure.
ian crossland
Tell me more.
tim pool
Not drinking.
ian crossland
Not drinking at all is the best cure.
tim pool
There you go.
ian crossland
Don't mess up.
It's the best solution.
tim pool
Drinking is a young man's game.
I'm almost 40. I'm not going anywhere near at all.
ian crossland
Yeah, I don't really drink either.
But regardless, Michaela, thank you so much for sending this to us.
Michaela Peterson, it's fullerhealth.co.
That's F-U-L-L-E-R health.co.
unidentified
Look at that.
ian crossland
Thanks again.
tim pool
They should pay you for that.
ian crossland
You will.
Head forward.
phil labonte
What's up, everybody?
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal and all that remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
Tim, let's go.
tim pool
Here we go.
First, we'll start with some updates here.
We have this from Forbes.
California wildfire live updates.
Officials say five dead as fires expand.
We have this map here from fire.airnow.gov.
Take a look at these fires that we have in the L.A. area.
So you've got, this is the Hearst Fire up north.
It looks small relative to the others, but it is still very massive.
And you can see it is dipping down into residential areas.
So hopefully...
People are taking that seriously.
Over here, you have the Eaton Fire.
There's actually now, I think, maybe even seven different fires in the area, although these are the major ones.
You can see this.
This is the Eaton Fire, and it is spreading crazy.
Altadena, look at this.
All of this residential area stuff just being wiped out.
This is crazy, man.
And then, of course, we have Pasadena, which is the bulk of this.
This is the Pacific Coast Highway.
Absolutely not.
Stretching into Malibu.
This is crazy.
I mean, let me see.
I got this photo here.
Take a look at this.
People are just saying, the Palisades are gone.
The houses are just gone.
This is absolutely insane.
And the worst thing about it, it is, and it was, preventable.
Now we're hearing that they've been evacuating more of Santa Monica, and you've got people down in Marina del Rey, which is just south of Santa Monica, getting very worried because with 90 mile an hour winds blowing in, This fire may be unstoppable until it just burns itself out, whatever that means.
ian crossland
If this goes to Santa Monica...
It's in Santa Monica.
tim pool
It is already in Santa Monica.
ian crossland
That's like the economic...
It's not the epicenter, but it's like part two in Los Angeles.
Like, Santa Monica is like the entertainment number two capital in the world next to Hollywood.
So that is like...
I mean, and you could say the Valley, but the Valley's huge.
Santa Monica's a tiny little focused area of auditions and studios.
phil labonte
You know the entertainment that comes out of the Valley, Ian.
ian crossland
Damn, dude.
A lot of...
tim pool
But this is what people need to understand.
You know, I know a lot of people who live in L.A. You totally get this.
People have been there.
You get this.
Los Angeles is tiny.
But Los Angeles County is massive.
And so when people talk about going to Hollywood or L.A., a lot of these celebrities, they live in Santa Monica.
They live in the Palisades.
Some, of course, live in the Hollywood Hills, which is, you know, more up here or whatever.
You've got West Hollywood, Beverly Hills.
But the Palisades, this is why James Woods is living up there.
It is common for actors and celebrities in Hollywood to be living in the Palisades.
The fact that it's gone is just absolutely insane.
ian crossland
You ever drive that Pacific Coast Highway?
tim pool
Of course, dude.
I used to go, like, every weekend we go to Malibu.
ian crossland
That drive through the Palisades up into Malibu is iconic.
And now, I mean, obviously, you can rebuild it, but all those houses on the left, because what happens is the road goes right up the beach.
It's like basically right up the ocean the entire way.
And then there's fires on the water.
If you're going west, to your left is all these houses.
They have beachfront property.
I bet they are.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
Look, you can see them right here.
All these houses.
ian crossland
They're beautiful architecture.
tim pool
And they're on fire.
Some of them are on fire, according to the...
unidentified
A lot of them are gone.
tim pool
Right.
unidentified
There's nothing left over there.
tim pool
Well, this is PCH going into Malibu.
It's not the same as Palisades.
But a lot of them are burning.
And you can see this.
unidentified
They haven't contained hardly any of it, either.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't know.
I saw...
unidentified
Some statistics are saying.
tim pool
Yeah, I think the last I saw on Fox News had 0% a couple hours ago.
That's insane.
unidentified
Like, how?
tim pool
Well, someone tweeted that the humidity was at 0.78.
phil labonte
Yeah.
That's crazy, dude!
I mean, it's super dry.
There's tons of fuel on the ground.
And there's the Santa Ana winds.
Like, I was talking to a firefighter friend of mine that used to do the...
He would jump out of planes into fires and stuff to fight fires.
And he's like, look, man, even God isn't going to put this fire out right now.
And that's if they had water and normal...
Things they have to fight fires, but because of mismanagement by the mayor, well, by the state, they don't even have water.
tim pool
This has been going on for a long time, man.
Because I was down in California 10 years ago, 10 years ago, when they were dealing with the drought, and the only thing I heard was mismanagement.
California's a desert.
These kind of things are going to happen, and they have to plan for it, and they don't.
And this is what you end up with.
And now...
It's crazy, but I think that the truth here is these wildfires happen every year in California.
We see it's wildfire season.
They've mismanaged the forest floor once again.
The brush fires, they've mismanaged it once again.
The only issue now is that it's in a major urban center with tons of people who live there and these videos of people being trapped in their homes.
You know, someone asked me, like, how do you get trapped in a fire?
And I'm like, dude, the fire is traveling 90 miles an hour.
You need to understand, with the winds blowing at that speed, you're sitting in your home, Everything looks normal.
Then all of a sudden you look outside and you see fire sweeping across the trees.
And then you go, whoa, I don't know what I'm supposed to do right now.
And so maybe you call 911 and say, hey, we're seeing fire sweep across it.
Get out now.
You open your door and there's an inferno in every direction.
Some people end up getting trapped because of this.
ian crossland
So quiet.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Dude, there's a video of these guys running out their front door.
And the trees, the regular trees, are burning embers.
Just like...
This tree was alive, and now it's so hot and the fire is so intense, the tree in front of your house is just literally a glowing ember.
ian crossland
You said that it was preventable.
So what I've heard is that PG&E, which is I think Pacific Gas and Electric, I don't know what the P stands for, gas and electric probably.
They are in charge of running the power lines, and they tend to run them through highly wooded areas and don't clear out the brush.
And because of that, the brush then can catch fire if a power line goes down, or if there's a spark.
And that is reliant on, I don't know if PG&E is a government company, but it's supposed to be PG&E's responsibility, or the government is just allowed, because it's like, hey, we need power.
We're not going to make you run a line all the way around the park, so yeah, you can run it through the trees.
At what risk?
And then now you're saying that also the diversion of the water, which has been going on since at least the early 1900s.
phil labonte
That's why they can't fight it.
The diversion of the water doesn't really have a lot to do with why it may have started, whether it be a PG&E line that broke.
tim pool
Is that what they think caused it?
phil labonte
I don't know.
I'm only addressing what he had mentioned, which it's possible, completely and totally possible.
I've heard stories that PG&E decided...
To not clean out the areas beneath the wires because it was not cost-effective or whatever, that it would be less to, I don't know if they were talking about pay lawsuits or whatever, but I've heard that it was PG&E's fault.
But at the end of the day, the state doesn't allow people to clean up or doesn't do anything to clean up the downfall and branches and brush.
So at the end of the day, it does boil down to it's the state's fault because they're the ones that are supposed to be able to prevent this stuff.
tim pool
California is an example of extraction.
This is what happens when a beautiful state with some of the best weather, and it's massive.
You go up north, you've got mountains, you've got skiing and snowboarding.
You go south, you've got beaches.
This is what happens when, over a long enough period of time, good men do nothing.
The government eventually gets taken over by people whose only intention is short-term extraction.
When I was living in Los Angeles, everybody said NIMBY, not in my backyard.
So they have what is described as the worst homeless crisis for the developed world in Los Angeles.
And you'd ask everybody, why can't one of the wealthiest cities, counties in the country, do anything about it?
Even though they spend a billion dollars every year, and it's because the billion dollars goes to what they call the homeless industrial complex, where companies, nonprofits, and manufacturers take the money for themselves, don't solve the problem, and then when it comes to actual either institutionalization or affordable housing, every single well-to-do liberal type in LA goes, not in my backyard.
So it never ends up getting done.
Over a long enough period of time...
As politicians simply extract, they tell you what you want to hear, they pass policies that increase their personal benefit, you get this.
It is horrifying mismanagement.
And you know the funny thing is, when you zoom out to the macro and you look at red states and red cities, you don't see it.
We covered this a few years ago.
You had per capita crime, all blue cities, and then when you, well, how come all of the highest crime cities are Democrat-run?
And they try and argue, well, it's because they're bigger.
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That doesn't mean anything.
The question is, why are bigger cities more likely to be Democrat?
And why are they full of crime?
And if you want to argue, because they're big, they're full of crime, we're talking per capita.
So you take a look at West Virginia.
Lower crime.
Dark, deep red.
Regular working class people.
Crime is low.
Lower on average.
So I got to tell you, what I see with the Democratic Party, not completely.
But leaning towards?
You look at the state of California, you don't need me to give you an example.
How is it possible that they don't manage their forest floors, that their fire hydrants ran out of water, the reservoirs weren't refilled, and the mayor is in Africa?
unidentified
Yeah, that is crazy.
She's not even there when it's all going on.
tim pool
I mean, I guess she's...
I guess she's flying back, so.
unidentified
And aren't they understaffed on the firefighters as well?
tim pool
Because they were too concerned about hiring too many white firefighters.
Two years ago, they reported there were too many white firefighters.
You saw that story?
phil labonte
I didn't realize.
No, I didn't see that.
I didn't realize that there was a DEI angle on it.
But God damn.
tim pool
Now, a lot of people on the left, they're saying you can't blame the mayor for being in Africa.
No.
There was a warning that went out a week ago saying fires were likely.
And the mayor was like, I'm out.
So I gotta tell you guys, I don't think Republicans are perfect.
I'm not making a comment on the Republican Party as a whole.
There's a lot of neocon scumbags that don't care about you.
No one's gonna sit here and praise Lindsey Graham.
But the Democratic Party is largely a component of short-term gains, long-term losses.
We're looking at it right now.
And people are losing their homes, their lives.
And I can't believe this map, dude.
phil labonte
So there are people talking about the fact that there were a lot of people that didn't have insurance because, I guess, there's insurance companies.
They cut them all off.
And there are people that are making connections to the insurance.
CEO that was killed recently in New York.
tim pool
Well, I want to jump to the environment thing too, but I'll just say this before we jump to the next story.
All of these liberals are saying, see, it's climate change that proves it.
And I'm like, dude, you've got a guy driving your bus and we're all sitting on it and he's gone off the edge of a cliff and he's just bouncing down the hill.
And you're like, bro, you drove us off the cliff and you've got to start veering to the left to try and get back on some kind of road?
And he goes, no.
The actual problem is that the environment is bad, so we're going to keep going the same direction.
They keep saying climate change is causing this as their policies literally make it impossible to stop.
unidentified
They're the most pro-climate change people as well.
I know!
tim pool
So when they say climate change is the problem, look at the fires.
I'm like, bro, it's California.
Where have they implemented climate change policies more than where you live?
And you are the cause of all of this.
phil labonte
And the thing about climate change or the climate change angle is even if...
Even if there were to be all the changes that people on the left want in the U.S., that doesn't change what China and India are going to do.
And those two countries both have 1.5 billion people.
So the argument that, oh, we need to do all these things here in the U.S., and we need to make all these changes to our infrastructure and stuff because we need to be able to fix climate change, it's not going to fix a thing.
Not one thing.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story from the Daily Mail.
Trump blames Gavin Newscom.
For raging California wildfires, the ultimate price is being paid.
I mean, this is sad, man.
But it is true.
Newsom comes in for his photo op.
But here's the issue.
Gavin Newsom had an opportunity to address this year after year after year.
Warning after warning after warning.
And he didn't do it.
So check this out.
Quote, he wanted to protect an essentially worthless fish called a smelt.
By giving it less water, it didn't work, but didn't care about the people of California.
Now the ultimate price is being paid.
I will demand that this incompetent governor allow beautiful, clean, fresh water to flow into California.
He has the blame for this.
On top of it all, no water for fire hydrants, not firefighting planes, a true disaster.
As of this moment, Gavin Newsom and his LA crew have contained exactly 0% of the fire.
It is burning at levels that even surpassed last night.
This is not government.
I can't wait until July 20th, Trump wrote.
No water in the fire hydrants.
No money in FEMA. This is what Joe Biden is leaving me.
Thanks, Joe.
Well, check this out.
Here's a clip from Colin Rugg.
He says Trump was mocked.
For sounding the alarm on the California water fire crisis during his interview on Joe Rogan, turns out he was right.
Trump spent nearly seven minutes ranting about the issue, blasting Newsom for doing nothing.
Take a look at this clip.
We'll just play a little bit of it.
donald j trump
Let me give you one that you may not know, which I think you know everything, actually, as a student of yours.
But water, you know, in Los Angeles, you can't get proper amounts of water.
unidentified
Right.
donald j trump
And it's unbelievably expensive.
And you might have a house in Beverly Hills, and they're actually thinking about rationing water.
Can you believe it?
unidentified
I can believe it.
donald j trump
I was in the farm court country with some of the congressmen who were driving up a highway.
And I say, how come all this land is so barren?
It's farmland, and it looked terrible.
just brown and bad.
I said, but there's always that little corner That's so green and beautiful.
They said, we have no water.
I said, do you have a drought?
No, we don't have a drought.
I said, why don't you have no water?
Because the water isn't allowed to flow down.
It's got a natural flow from Canada all the way up north of water.
More water than they could ever use.
And in order to protect a tiny little fish, the water up north gets routed into the Pacific Ocean.
Millions and millions of gallons of water gets poured.
You've got to see this.
We're driving up, and I had never seen it before.
It's like Iowa.
It's the most fertile land.
Iowa's blessed with great land.
Idaho for a potato, right?
By the way, some land is good for a potato, some land is good for corn.
It's the craziest thing.
I love the farmers.
unidentified
They're great.
donald j trump
They're the greatest.
And by the way, they're getting killed right now.
unidentified
They are.
donald j trump
They're getting killed because of this stupid administration.
So I see this, and I said, you've got to be kidding.
I said...
You mean you have water?
And I looked at it.
It's like a valve in your sink, except it's massive.
The thing's five times taller than your ceiling.
unidentified
Did you know the center of California was a giant lake?
tim pool
That's true, too.
But instead of going off on that tangent, let me show you this.
When we zoom out, he's talking about the Delta area.
It's in the bay.
And so you come up here, and the issue is basically this.
All of this water right here.
Is pushing into the Pacific.
So you can see fresh water up here, and you've got brackish water here in the bay, and then you've got ocean water.
So for those that aren't familiar, I assume most of you are, but brackish is kind of the mix between fresh and salt water.
So what ends up happening is they can have all of this beautiful, beautiful water that flows from up north.
Come down south and alleviate a lot of these problems, which can be used for firefighting, but you don't really need to rely on fresh water for firefighting, but would give you large reservoirs, which can be used, of course, and it would make sure it would deal with the poor communities in the east if they could get this water down here.
The issue is that if they stop the flow of water into the delta...
Then the pressure stops and ocean water pushes in, turning the Delta brackish and killing off all the farms.
It's not just about the fish.
The excuse used, of course, is that it would kill off all the Delta smelt.
That is largely the reason.
Because they could still create a dam or some kind of system that would prevent the ocean water from coming in and wiping out the Delta.
They don't do it.
And I think it's not just the fish.
That's the point I'm trying to make.
The state doesn't have willpower.
Long-term investment is not within the minds of your average Democrat, governor, or state.
phil labonte
Yeah, I wasn't aware of the fact that without the flow from outside that the brackish water would move further inland.
But still, I mean, if they're siphoning the water off so that way it helps farmers, that's...
That, to me, seems like it would probably be some kind of lobbying issue.
Oh yeah, it is.
The lobbyists are doing it.
And that means that the people that have lost their homes, those people are wealthy people and they have means and it should inspire them.
To tell the politicians, look, I'm not donating to your candidate to your campaign now because you allowed my house to be burned down.
unidentified
It's going to be very interesting to see how the people in these areas react because when we had the hurricane in North Carolina, the communities all rallied together.
But in California...
I lived there once and it felt like everybody's you versus me.
And you didn't even know who was living next to you.
phil labonte
Nobody's from California.
unidentified
And so it's going to be interesting to see these people hurry and get together and they do whatever they can and get these donations running or whatnot.
Or is it going to be every person for themselves?
tim pool
I think it's not...
I don't want to be so callous because...
unidentified
Or are they just going to move out and just abandon whatever they had left?
tim pool
Or are they just going to move out?
Like Maui.
What do we see?
These big celebrities who had land there were just like, I'm out.
Because they're rich, right?
When you look to the areas that are being affected in L.A. where there's poorer people, because PellHead is not all rich people, of course.
There's some, you know, it's expensive.
These people can't do anything.
The rich people are going to be, you know, I look at them and I feel for them, because your home is your home.
It doesn't matter if you're rich or poor.
Your home is your home.
Losing your home is devastating.
But they are still going to survive this.
And so I don't want to be so callous because James was saying that, you know, it really warmed his heart to see that it wasn't political, that it's Democrat, Republican, none of it mattered.
They were neighbors helping each other survive this disaster.
And that's what I'm hoping we get out of it.
However, as to what Phil was saying with, like, donations, these people, I don't see them, like Mark Hamill, for instance.
I think his home may have been affected by this.
But these are the kind of people that don't read into it, right?
This is what Jimmy Dore made a really great point on.
You know, trusting your doctor.
He has that bit.
It's epic.
And you should hear it where he's like, you know, they kept saying during COVID, don't look into it.
And he's like, that's insane.
Imagine doing that with literally anything else.
Like, I'm going to go buy a car.
Don't look into it.
How am I supposed to know which car is the right one?
Trust the salesman.
He's the expert.
It's brilliant.
But this is how Democrats largely operate.
And again, I'm not trying to roast literally every single Democrat, but this is what's going to happen.
They're going to come out and they're going to say, this is climate change's fault and Trump wants to drill for oil and it's going to make this worse.
And you're like, my dude, you had no water and you didn't manage the floor of the ground in the hills.
You didn't do floor management for the wildlands.
And they're going to go, climate change.
You're going to say, PG&E has power cables running through areas with high risks of fire, and they're going to go, climate change.
And we're going to, okay, California, do your thing, I guess.
But they're going to blame Trump for it.
They're going to keep pushing nonsense ideas.
And like I was saying, you were saying, Phil, about donations, they're still going to donate.
There's two ways I see this.
Them saying, don't know, don't care.
I got hurt and it's your fault.
Or they're going to say, this proves it.
Climate change is the problem.
Please stop Donald Trump.
The man who warned us about our lack of water in this area three months ago.
Insanity.
unidentified
They'll twist it and make somehow it be Trump's problem and whatnot.
But Gavin Newsom has literally been in there for the past few years.
And every single time he has the opportunity to help out the people, whether it be the fentanyl crisis, to stop giving the people needles and stop giving them...
$600 a month to be able to keep buying drugs while they live on the street or the migrants coming through the border.
Every single time he's had a chance to do something, he has gone against the majority of the people that would benefit.
tim pool
So is it so hard to believe that these Democrats are intentionally trying to destroy the country?
I mean, that even defies short-term gain.
You can make the argument that he's like, we're going to give needles, and what do they have, those glass pipe kits they give out to homeless people to do crack?
He's like, we're going to do that because it's politically expedient.
I get through it, I say, we solved the problem, thank you and have a nice day, not going to think about it.
But I'm kind of like, I don't know, man, that's not a short-term gain.
You're literally setting a political fire.
phil labonte
The politics of nice have been a massive problem for the United States.
That's why Donald Trump, I think, was successful in his first term, was as successful as he Whatever amount of success you believe he had, which generally around this table we have a fairly positive view of what he did.
And that's because he didn't ascribe to the politics of nice.
He wasn't worried about if it sounded nice.
And there are so many people, particularly in California, that all of their politics is, I just want to be nice.
And I want to do the nice thing.
I want to be the good person.
So we should give that...
Drug addict, the drugs that he needs to prevent withdrawal.
And we should allow those homeless people to stay homeless and shoot up drugs.
And we should let people that are repeat offenders out of jail because there might have been some kind of problem.
That was business as usual in California for ages and ages.
And there are real-world, tangible consequences to the politics of NICE. And now, thankfully, for California, there are people that have voted significantly against the politics of NICE. Remember when we were this close to getting Governor Larry Elder?
Yeah!
tim pool
This wouldn't have happened.
phil labonte
No.
tim pool
Would not have happened.
And they teamed up to shut him down.
Larry Elder.
ian crossland
I don't know how they're going to solve for this, this wildfire thing.
Because if, I mean, maybe you could use ocean water and drones.
We talked about that before the show.
I think it was before the show.
phil labonte
Well, not drones.
You could use...
Plane.
ian crossland
Gigantic.
You can just constantly scoop and dump.
tim pool
Yes, here's the issue.
The winds are at 100 miles an hour.
ian crossland
So getting any flight is like a challenge.
tim pool
It's extreme challenge.
It's very difficult for the smaller aircraft to fly here.
So they were reporting.
They had a first responder on Fox News in the morning saying helicopters can't fly, not in these winds, and fixed-wing aircraft have a higher threshold, but it's still too intense.
They have been.
Sending in flights now, and there's some really great videos of them just dumping water on the fire.
I'm glad to see it.
ian crossland
Other solutions could be like putting the power lines underground.
Because I always look at these power lines thinking of those massive vulnerabilities.
Anybody can blow them up, anybody can knock them down, they can catch fire.
tim pool
Adam Carolla was saying that!
He said he was talking about it on his show, and the next thing he knows, he looks outside, or he sees this photo of a power line being knocked over.
ian crossland
I was living in Venice, and it would just buzz outside my window.
The salt water just causing...
tim pool
Well, there's no underground with Venice.
Oh, you mean Venice, California?
ian crossland
I was just watching a documentary on Venice, Italy today.
It's fascinating how they built that city.
On big wooden plates.
unidentified
Sometimes you walk the streets of LA and you wonder if you're in South America or if you're in America.
tim pool
You are correct.
unidentified
Because just the power lines, you don't see that everywhere.
tim pool
Bro, when I was in Brazil in the favelas, the power lines are really scary.
It's a black cluster of tangled things hanging from a post.
And you're like, how does anyone connect anything to that thing?
And if it fell down, ain't nobody gonna figure out how to fix it.
ian crossland
So you got the power lines, obviously, which is probably the biggest culprit of setting the fires, maybe.
But then the water.
You gotta get water.
They built the city in the desert because it was a nice environment.
But now you got a city in the desert that relies on imports.
tim pool
Well, they had river water coming in.
And the city is just growing beyond its capabilities.
ian crossland
The LA River.
Yeah, it's like some years there's no water.
tim pool
Wildfires happen.
Wildfires happen.
If you want to have a population of 13 million people spread out across an area that has high potential for wildfires, you have to have forest floor management.
I guess it's not a forest, it's brush floor or whatever.
But let me pull up this video right here.
We got this tweet from Kyle Zink.
He says, this is our neighbor's backyard in LA right now.
Power line sparking against trees.
Neighbor and I have been trying to call 911 and fire department for 45 minutes with no answer, as instructed by power company.
Yes, a lot is going on, but the city is failing us.
Check this video out.
phil labonte
I mean...
tim pool
For those who are just listening, it's a fireworks show.
phil labonte
What is causing that?
tim pool
The power lines are just sparking like crazy on a tree.
ian crossland
So you think a base station blew up and now all these power lines are just discharging?
tim pool
I have no idea.
ian crossland
That's what Serge is saying.
tim pool
There was a lot of...
There was a story like this several years ago, like 10 years ago maybe, where there was a fire and it was something like a power line sparked and it landed on the ground.
ian crossland
Another problem with people being on a grid, man, an electric grid, relying on a central battery that can explode and then discharge across all your lines and set fires and sparks.
tim pool
Well, what do you do?
I mean, I do think we need to—I read this really funny op-ed a while ago about how the oldest functioning infrastructure machine in the United States is the power grid.
It was a machine that was built in, like, the early 1800s, early 1900s, and we've never replaced it.
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
It's just one big, massive machine where there's several areas of weak parts.
Obviously, when we build new stuff, it's up to code, but it's all connected to this very old system.
ian crossland
Okay, we'll use Elon's Boring Company to drill holes to pass graphene wiring underground.
We got it.
Now we need to just weather the storm and get there.
tim pool
Tesla's wireless energy transmission.
phil labonte
Ooh.
tim pool
Which I don't know if it's actually real.
ian crossland
He would send it through the ground and cause an earthquake.
I don't know if there's a same tech.
He caused an earthquake in lower New York, in lower Manhattan.
The cops came and checked it out.
It's a great story.
Yeah, his earthquake machine that he was building.
He was all about sending electricity through the ground because the air, there wasn't enough contact.
tim pool
I think what we're seeing with this stuff, with the power lines with California, is sooner or later it was going to happen.
You've got way too many people in an area where no one takes responsibility.
ian crossland
So short-term gain, short-term loss.
So you think the Newsom, the politicians are thinking, like, if we did hire people to clear out the brush, it's going to cost us 30% GDP, whatever the hell.
tim pool
What happens is Newsom says...
Guys, we got a problem with this brush floor that Tinder is building up.
Can we clear it out?
And they go, we could.
It'll cost $30 million.
And he goes, fine.
It's better than a billion dollars in damage.
And then someone's at the door.
Open it up.
There it is.
Greenpeace, Sierra Club, Environment America.
And they're like, you ain't touching nothing.
Because no matter what you do, we're going to lobby against you.
And so the arguments that I've heard is that environmental organizations put pressure on the government to oppose the actions they want to take for whatever reason, just like the Delta smelt.
They say, there's a fish that lives here, and you cannot take its water away.
ian crossland
When it comes to the smelt, this is a little, I wouldn't have said this 20 years ago, but like, sometimes you gotta let animals, some animals go extinct to preserve the human species.
It's a sad utilitarian.
phil labonte
Is the smelt gonna go extinct, though?
tim pool
I mean, it might kill the specific delta smelt.
No, because they can create sanctuaries before they switch the flow off.
They just won't do it.
Look.
You know, Alex Jones came on the show a few years ago and was talking about that book.
Was it Ishmael?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
And that's why we have the shirt on the Tim Kass store of the gorilla saying, I am a gorilla, because the point was in this book, the gorilla is basically a psychic gorilla.
I never read that.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's a great book.
I read it.
Daniel Quinn is the writer.
tim pool
He's telling people that they're destroying the planet.
Is that what it is?
ian crossland
Yeah, he's telling this guy about how humanity is kind of destroying itself.
There's the levers and the takers, and there's too many takers on Earth right now.
tim pool
I don't think it's wrong to say there's too many takers.
I think most people would agree.
There are a lot of people who extract.
They think they deserve everything and they're required to do nothing.
And it's fascinating that it is in fact largely communists and they're the ones saying To each according to their needs, from each according to their means.
And I'm like, you ain't doing nothing.
You're taking more than you need and you're giving back nothing.
phil labonte
Remember that time the Soviet Union destroyed an entire sea?
No.
Yeah, the Soviet Union emptied out a whole sea.
ian crossland
They did?
tim pool
Remember when they murdered millions of people because they didn't care for the Ukrainians and took all their food?
ian crossland
The Holodomor.
Yeah, Holodomor.
That was a man-made famine.
tim pool
Yeah, they were basically like, ethnic Ukrainians don't need food.
Russians do.
So they took all their food.
ian crossland
Oh, that's so crazy.
phil labonte
Yeah.
And they called the people that had a little bit of ability to farm that had, like, a cow and a farm.
They said that they had stolen that from the people.
Like, these people knew how to actually farm, and so they took their cow, they took their farms, and they said, you people should die first because you stole from the people.
So when they killed the farmers, If there was the famine that killed millions of people.
tim pool
So someone said, no, Tim, the smelter are migrating fish.
They live in rivers, not bays.
They need moving water to survive.
You know, I'm just going to say it.
Who was it?
What was that line from Fight Club about pandas being too stupid to bang each other for their own species?
You remember?
ian crossland
No, I don't remember.
tim pool
For every panda that was too stupid to have sex to save its own species.
It's like, dude, some animals aren't supposed to exist.
And this is the crazy thing.
The liberal mentality, they want you to believe that...
I love this.
The group that views the world predominantly through the lens of evolution doesn't accept evolution.
You have Christians who believe in creationism.
I personally don't.
I believe in evolution.
And then you have liberals who are like, evolution!
And you're like, okay, well the smelt are going to go extinct because they're dumb and they live in an area where they can't survive.
And they're like, nah.
We will use man-made artificial power to keep them alive and then let everyone in Southern California burn.
unidentified
It kind of sounds like you hate humans.
phil labonte
There's a heat map that I've seen shared on X. I saw that.
People that are conservative, the heat map, basically it's a preference of people that are close to you or an abstraction of people.
People that are conservative, the heat map is all the people that are close to them.
The heat map shows that they prefer people that are close to them, their families, their communities, their loved ones.
And the left or progressive people, the heat map says that all the people they prefer are people that are an abstraction, people that are far away from them, other cultures, and the people that are close they hate.
unidentified
It's like they want to accept everyone but protect nobody.
phil labonte
Let me see if I can find it.
tim pool
The moment they bring you into the fold, they're like, yeah, we don't care about you.
unidentified
And then the moment you do something wrong, you're excommunicated.
tim pool
I mean, it is funny.
unidentified
Once you go woke, they just...
tim pool
Once you're an apostate for wokeness?
unidentified
Yeah, there's no family in wokeness.
You mess up once and you're done.
ian crossland
There's no going back to sleep.
tim pool
They don't believe in planting trees whose shade they know they will not sit beneath, and you know why?
It's because they don't have kids.
ian crossland
It's more than just that.
That's a big part of it, yeah.
tim pool
People, you know, when that dude Mangione shot the CEO, first thing I said was, he's single, he's got no kids.
phil labonte
Of course.
tim pool
Come on, like a dude who's got kids is substantially less likely.
To go into something insane like that.
Because he's going to be like, as angry as I am, I have children.
And they need me to feed them.
ian crossland
Also, I think they're, like, embedded in TV. I think, like, entertainment, they're embedded in entertainment.
Like, they got their television, their sports, they got their TV shows, their...
phil labonte
If you're watching the show, tweet, and you know that heat method I'm talking about, tweet it at me so I can share it here.
I can't find it.
ian crossland
Because it's easy to disassociate from your neighbors if you got, like...
Your community online or if you've got your TV show guy telling you what to do and your 50 cents a day you're sending to Africa to give some kid a cup of coffee or whatever those old...
I don't know for sure.
Lack of kids is probably the number one reason.
Also, not owning property, for me, I think, once you own your land, there's a big reason to take care of it.
tim pool
Owning anything?
phil labonte
Yeah, any kind of ownership.
ian crossland
Even car ownership?
tim pool
Oh, dude, you see the video of that leftist woman who gets her phone stolen?
And then she's arguing with the homeless people, being like, come on, I'm not rich, I'm a good person, can you give me my phone back?
And they're like, screw you.
But steal from rich people!
Oh, yeah, you know.
Now you're getting it, right?
ian crossland
Yeah, fire doesn't care what it burns.
tim pool
That's right.
ian crossland
Light a fire.
It spreads in every direction, man.
And we're on Earth, so it's only two dimensions.
tim pool
I can't believe the leopards ate my face, says man who voted for leopards eating your face party.
phil labonte
You know, I... Oh, you found the heat map?
Yeah, I did.
tim pool
You sent it to me?
phil labonte
Do you want me to put it in the Slack?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We will pull up the...
Why liberals hate everybody map?
Is that what it is?
phil labonte
Well, it shows the difference between liberals and progressives in the IRL. Okay, liberals and progressives.
Well, I'm sorry, conservatives and progressives.
So the center, the one on the left is conservatives, the one on the right is liberals.
And it shows that the conservatives care for their family and the people in their lives and their community.
tim pool
Liberals devote much of their concern to plants, trees, and inert identities such as rocks.
phil labonte
There's this great...
tim pool
Well, I wish that were true, because they'd protect ancient relics and things like that.
phil labonte
You'd think.
There's a meme that you see frequently.
It's like, oh, the communists are siding with the bugs again.
Anytime you put up a Starship Troopers meme, people are like, well, you know, blah, blah, blah.
And it's like, yeah, look, the communists are siding with the bugs again, because they're creepy and weird like that.
tim pool
Maybe what we need to do is we need to have, like...
A doctor, an Ozymandias, Dr. Manhattan-style hoax where the smelt stage a false flag where the smelt attack the Delta.
And then we have no choice but to divert the water to stop the evil threat of smelt.
ian crossland
Like a smelt eats a guy.
Like the smelt attack a dude.
tim pool
Smelt carry COVID. Mm-hmm.
Let's just tell everybody that.
Oh, yeah, the smell.
ian crossland
That's scary disease.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
ian crossland
It's kind of like shaking someone awake to the harsh reality that some things have to die.
And it's like a horrible thing to say about some creatures, like on Mars, when we start terraforming and colonizing Mars, if there's a hostile life form, a bacteria, some protozoa, some microorganism, we will wipe that out.
We're not thinking twice.
unidentified
Oh, right.
ian crossland
Self-preservation is number one.
And it sucks that we've colonized a desert.
Maybe that was a human mistake, but we're about to colonize Mars, which is another form of desert.
tim pool
You know, I love it's like, when I see a stink bug in here, they're harmless.
They're smelly, so I don't like them.
But, you know, we'll scoop them up and we'll bring them outside.
If I see anything that looks remotely like a venomous insect, it dies.
ian crossland
Even ants, man.
I crush them.
phil labonte
Yeah.
ian crossland
If they don't stink, I'd like to take them outside, but it's such a lot of effort.
tim pool
It depends on if there's like a ton of ants.
To walk outside.
If there's like a bunch of ants.
Then I'm...
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
You gotta stop them.
Yeah, the pheromone trails and all that stuff.
ian crossland
If it's one, it might be a scout.
tim pool
I'll scoop it up and I'll just throw it in the garbage or something.
ian crossland
Okay.
tim pool
And it's like, I don't know.
Answer a different story.
They're kind of just...
ian crossland
I like them, but...
unidentified
Eh.
tim pool
No, but like...
ian crossland
I don't treat them like stink bugs.
tim pool
We got crickets all in here.
We just bring them outside.
We throw them outside.
And we can also collect them and give them to chickens.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, that's just, you know, food chain, right?
If it in any way is a threatening bug, it dies.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's just say that the smelt have stingers and they will sting you.
ian crossland
Poisonous venom gills.
unidentified
Just tell them the smelts hate Trump.
tim pool
No, they vote Trump.
unidentified
They vote Trump.
tim pool
The smelter Trump voters.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Gotta divert the Delta.
phil labonte
They'll be killed.
ian crossland
Really, it's this diverting water away from San Francisco Bay.
If that's going to destroy the Bay and annihilate the farms of San Francisco, that's a problem.
That's insurmountable.
tim pool
Well, let's bring this to the class argument.
We got this story from Newsweek.
California insurer canceled policies months before Los Angeles wildfires.
This is weird.
Politico reports LA fires could break California's insurance market.
So how is it that four months ago and up to a few weeks ago, there's an insurer, there's a couple of them, I think a bunch of them actually, In Malibu and Palisades and Los Angeles that abruptly canceled fire insurance.
There's a video of a woman at a house, Fox News interviews her, and she's like, two weeks ago they canceled fire insurance, and now here we are.
What did these insurance companies know, and when did they know it?
ian crossland
They probably knew what we've all known for 15 years, which is California's a tinderbox.
phil labonte
Mismanaged.
ian crossland
Yeah, maybe they knew something, though, particular about this year.
But I know, like, what was it, 2018?
unidentified
I mean, if I ever heard that there's a possibility of even fire hydrants not getting water if a fire were to break out, I mean, I'd probably uninsure the people as well.
ian crossland
Right?
tim pool
So what I heard, sorry, I heard that there was a law saying that the insurers could not raise premiums by a certain amount, and so the insurance company said, okay, then we can't cover the cost of insurance.
Canceled.
ian crossland
That's wild, because if the flood insurers of Florida...
Or the people that insure for flooding.
I know that's a big hot point, too.
There's a lot of companies that just won't insure for flood damage in Florida because of the hurricanes.
But if they were to pull out right before hurricane season, that's why we have government to prevent private companies from...
He's just pulling it over on people.
phil labonte
The reason that the companies ended all the insurance or whatever, they canceled the insurance policies, is because they did an assessment of the situation.
Insurance companies aren't in the business of losing money, right?
And if they look at the situation, they see that the government is not managing the...
You know, the area properly, and there's a likelihood that there's going to be a fire, and there's a likelihood that it's going to cause massive damage.
A fire like this, ostensibly in that area, could put an entire insurance company out of business, right?
Like, you're talking billions and billions of dollars in damage, right?
It could totally put an insurance company out of business.
So they canceled those policies, not because they're, like, some evil...
Insurance company like the left thinks, but they looked at the situation and they said the state is not handling their job.
They're not taking care of the forest areas or the brush, and so this is too great of a risk.
The same reason they cancel those is the same reason that there are people that get into five, six, seven accidents with a boatload of speeding tickets that can't get car insurance because you're just too much of a risk.
That's the long and short of it.
They look at the situation and they say, we can't take this risk on because if there were a fire, like...
What's going on now?
It could literally put our entire company out of business because of the paying out of all of these policies.
So they canceled the policies because they couldn't handle the risk, which is completely normal when it comes to how insurance works.
ian crossland
Serge just sent me a list from Twitter of fires in California, one of the big ones.
And this is what we got.
2020, 2018, 2017, 18, 2017, 2016. But then before that, it was 2009. So it was in 2016 you started seeing them every year for a while.
There was probably some big degradation going on.
Then 2009, 2008, 2007, back all the way to 03 and so on, 93, 91. So, I mean, maybe there's been a string of fires in the last seven years.
I guess 21, 22, and 23, we looked pretty clear.
tim pool
So according to Newsweek, they say State Farm, one of the biggest insurers in California, canceled hundreds of homeowners' policies last summer in the Pacific Palisades, the same area ravaged by the wildfire.
The move was justified by the company as an attempt to avoid financial failure, as the frequency and severity of wildfires is growing in the Golden State, especially in at-risk zones.
But as multiple fires currently are burning through Southern California...
I mean, how could you claim climate change too in California where they literally try everything they can to protect climate change?
Because they're dumb enough to believe it.
unidentified
I mean, you have a point.
ian crossland
The idea of intentionally destroying an area to recoup it is not far off.
I don't know.
I feel like they're doing that in Ukraine.
They're just decimating it to rubble so that BlackRock can rebuild it and own a portion of it or something.
phil labonte
I don't know that I think that they're doing it in order to blame climate change because they have ample...
Excuses for climate change.
Everything, whether it be...
There's an entire season of hurricanes that they blame on climate change.
Every year there's these fires.
I don't think they need to have a more dramatic catastrophe so that way they can blame climate change.
I think they'll blame climate change no matter what.
tim pool
It'll rain and they'll claim it's climate change.
phil labonte
Yeah, it doesn't matter what happens.
They're going to blame crime change.
tim pool
Remember when there was a storm in D.C. and the storm sirens went off and AOC was like, this is climate change.
phil labonte
It was a tornado.
tim pool
It's a tornado.
The funny thing is there are storm sirens because tornadoes do happen in the area and she was like, this is climate change.
No, we installed the storm sirens because this is common, actually.
It doesn't happen all the time, but it's like we know it happens.
phil labonte
I mean, dude, there was a tornado in New England maybe like 10 years ago, which is, you know, you think New England because it's all hills and stuff, you'd think that they wouldn't happen at all, but there was.
They can happen just about anywhere.
But still, I don't think that they need an excuse.
They're just going to blame climate change.
And like I said earlier...
Look, if you really are concerned with climate change and you really think it's something that's going to destroy the earth and the seeds are going to boil away, then you should be lobbying for us to invade China and invade India and take them over and institute actual policies that will stop their burning of coal and dung and all of the...
unidentified
That's what I find the stupidest thing about climate change is we have these other countries, other places where literally their populations are...
Three times as large.
And if you watch the videos, it's like, there's like no controls on what they're doing.
Like, all these buses, everything, like, they're emitting all these things.
tim pool
You know, I'm kind of happy we live the way we do.
Because these countries, if you look at the videos out of China where it's just smog everywhere.
unidentified
Oh, I'm extremely happy we live in America.
tim pool
And so we're like, we're looking at these countries.
You know, for once, I'd love to see Greta Thunberg say, how dare you, to China.
Just one time.
You know what I mean?
How dare you?
She said she goes to Europe and she's like, you got rid of plastic straws and you're all drinking out of chemical paper?
How dare you?
And we're like, China is the one that's dumping everything in the water, dude.
Come on.
phil labonte
Southeast Asia is where all of the plastic that is in the Pacific Ocean, all of it comes from Southeast Asia.
It's all coming from China and the islands and stuff like that.
ian crossland
Is that like an actual...
phil labonte
Yeah.
I have a picture of that.
that a huge majority comes out of yeah there's a third like there's more people that live in a circle over southeast asia that includes china and india there's more human beings that live inside that circle than live outside of it and i'll take i have a picture i'll find the picture i sort of feel like complaining about climate change is complaining about how poop stinks Like, okay, we all get it.
ian crossland
It stinks.
People are going to poop.
You can't make them stop.
People are going to create waste.
You can't make them stop.
People are going to burn wood.
Can't make them stop.
They're going to burn coal.
They're going to burn gas and oil.
Can't stop them.
Unless, like Phil said, you want to militarily invade and stand there on the corner with rifles and say you can't do it, they're going to do it.
So we need to figure out how to reuse the stuff, the waste product, not stop making the stuff or complain about it.
tim pool
Here's what I want Trump to do.
He's going to set up something called The Review.
And in every city, there will be a building where you are required by appointment to show up.
And then they just ask you a simple question like, what are your thoughts on climate change?
And they're gonna say, oh, I think it's bad.
And it's like, do you think that we should ban the use or restrict the use of oil?
Yes.
Okay, boys!
And then a bunch of guys come in, strip them of all of their petroleum-based clothing, take away the keys to their car, seize their vehicle, go to their house, strip it down, they can live in a mud hut.
I'm joking.
The point is, all of these well-to-do liberal types that are like, but climate change.
There's a hilarious video.
Where you've got these, what are those protesters?
Do they block the streets?
unidentified
Palestine protesters?
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
The energy ones.
unidentified
Oh, the climate.
ian crossland
Distinction Rebellion?
tim pool
Yeah.
And there's a guy, and he's like, you're wearing a jacket made from petrochemicals.
Like, it's a petroleum-based plastic jacket with plastic synthetic filling.
Like, literally all of you are doused in oil, and you're sitting here complaining about it.
It is the most ridiculous, stupid stuff.
I tell you this.
If you want to complain about oil, we start with you.
ian crossland
Okay?
tim pool
No more oil?
Fine.
First thing is, if you want to complain about oil, you're allowed to.
That was always allowed.
If you actually want to implement policy and make us change, you have to abandon all oil products first.
phil labonte
Ian, if you want to check out, I put up the picture.
ian crossland
Tweet it out?
phil labonte
Well, I put it in the Slack, in the Timcast IRL Slack.
unidentified
I just don't like how they make, like, I remember in school they were telling us, like, oh, by 2030, New York City will be underwater, and it's like...
I go to New York City, it still looks just fine.
tim pool
The Maldives?
unidentified
I also think things are just going to happen.
You can't stop all forest fires.
It's inevitable that they're going to happen.
It's like a process of...
tim pool
How old are you?
22. 22. So you said when you were in school, how long ago was that?
phil labonte
45 minutes.
unidentified
No, I remember elementary school and they're telling you by 2030 or whatnot.
Right, right.
tim pool
I know, but that's still like, what, 10 years ago?
Yeah.
25 years ago.
unidentified
Were they telling you guys this stuff as well?
I'm 38!
Yes!
It's like nothing's changed.
phil labonte
I'm going to be 50 this year.
unidentified
And they were telling you that too?
phil labonte
They were telling me by the time 2000 came around, when I was in grade school, when I was in...
Before, like, 89, 88, when I just got into high school, if we don't fix climate change, if we don't fix global warming, it was back then, all the snow caps are going to be gone.
There's a movie called An Inconvenient Truth that Al Gore, former vice president, made, and it came out in 2006, and he was swearing up and down that by 2020, five years ago, swearing up and down by 2020, the ice caps were going to be gone, and the seas were going to rise.
The massive problem with people my age listening to this garbage is we've been hearing the same garbage for literally 25 years, like Tim said, 30 years.
So it's like, you're full of crap.
The evidence is that none of the stuff that you've been saying for 30 years has come to fruition at all.
So why am I going to listen to you now?
ian crossland
They give you models, but they don't take into account mitigating circumstances a lot of times.
Things will change.
Technologies will be invented that will redirect the path that you're looking at in 30 years from now, so don't panic.
That's the biggest thing, is don't panic.
Don't create alarmism.
Maybe you want to ring the alarm, but do it with a purpose, with a solution.
tim pool
But they should be saying, it's up to you to solve for this problem.
phil labonte
Good luck.
tim pool
Instead of saying, the end is nigh, sorry, bye, she'd be saying, here's a problem we're facing, but we believe in you, and if you guys work hard enough, we will find a way through this.
ian crossland
I think we can find symbiosis with the climate, but it does take a global effort.
If the Chinese and the Indians are going to burn untold amounts of methane and carbon, then what?
We can't.
phil labonte
They burn dung.
A lot of people in India still burn dung because India is still like basically a third world country.
Like there are parts of India that are modern.
tim pool
Sorry, do you mean like cow dung?
phil labonte
Yeah.
I'm not sure if it's cow because they look at cow as sacred.
So it might not be cow.
tim pool
But the poop, I don't think.
phil labonte
I don't know.
I don't want to offend.
ian crossland
And they use a lot of kerosene a lot of places.
phil labonte
I mean, I don't know.
But the point that I'm making is when they're burning waste like that, that's because the options they have are very limited.
So, like, you've got...
You've got burning, you know, they're burning wood, burning dung, burning, some places are burning coal and stuff.
And like I said, there's a billion five in India.
Maybe 500 million of them live in modern cities and stuff like that.
That means there's a billion people that are still in the tribal areas, that are living in the rural areas, that don't have reliable indoor plumbing, that don't have...
I mean, they're living like they did 500 years ago.
And in China, there are fewer people that are living in the wilderness like the Indians, but there are still a large portion of China.
They're poor people and they live on farms and they got to do what they got to do to heat their homes because China has weather just like everywhere else in the world.
So it's not like if you fix America and if you just get everybody to change their lights to LED lights, we're going to solve climate change.
Or even if you get everybody to buy electric cars.
And I'm not against electric cars.
I love mine.
I got a Tesla.
I think it's the coolest thing in the world.
I love it.
I got a solar array on my house in New Hampshire.
I love it.
It's great.
I'm not against this stuff.
But the idea that you can just flip the switch and say, here, everybody go to this now, that's not happening.
ian crossland
No, and if there's a solar flare, you've got to burn oil.
Combustion.
You can't rely on batteries constantly, forever.
tim pool
Bro, there will be a time in our future where, I don't know if Tesla will do it, but these electric cars, you're going to sit down in your car, the doors are going to lock, and it's going to be like, I'm sorry, I can't let you drive the car, Phil.
Your carbon emissions have been too high this week.
unidentified
Only if you live in Canada.
ian crossland
Stop breathing.
tim pool
Oh, everywhere, man.
ian crossland
We took a driverless car.
unidentified
Canada, don't they have a carbon tax?
tim pool
Probably.
phil labonte
They might, yeah.
tim pool
They probably have a white privilege tax, as far as I can tell.
unidentified
I'm sure they do.
ian crossland
Carbon consumption, you get taxed on it.
unidentified
Yeah, you get taxed on your amount of, like, carbon you emit into the...
ian crossland
Emissions?
tim pool
Oh, did you guys see the congestion fee now in New York?
phil labonte
Uh-uh.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like $9.
phil labonte
$9 for cars, yeah.
unidentified
For what?
tim pool
Per day or per week or what?
unidentified
Every time you pass the street.
tim pool
What?
ian crossland
What street?
unidentified
Once you enter into downtown Manhattan, I think 60th Street, you charge $9.
But the stupid thing is these service companies as well that have the plumbers, electricians, they're charging them anywhere from $15 to $35 or $25.
They're trying to stop the flow of traffic.
Meanwhile, they're just going to cause the prices.
phil labonte
They want people to use the subway.
unidentified
Check it out.
tim pool
This is New York City drivers trying to TikTok to share illegal hacks to dodge $15 congestion fee.
I thought it was $9.
This is from CarScoops.
unidentified
It's $9 for me and you to drive in, but it goes up for different types of cars.
tim pool
Makes sense.
Yeah, collecting from most drivers.
So I've been seeing these reports where people are now, they've always had this stuff where you can put this like epoxy over your license plate.
So to the human eye, it looks normal.
But when you take a picture with a flash, it just blurs out white.
And so New York posted this article where they're like, the congestion fee has resulted in people smashing their license plates, bending them, so the cameras can't AI scan the number, or scratching out one of the numbers, or they do a thing where they stick a leaf.
They use like a light adhesive so it can peel right off, and they put a leaf on it so you can't see one number.
That way they can be like, oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize a leaf was on my license plate.
It's not my fault.
Because they don't want to pay this fee.
unidentified
I mean, it's ridiculous.
They're already paying so much money in taxes, and then every single day, like, they give $12 million to migrants in New York City.
tim pool
Right?
phil labonte
They want everybody to go into the subway and get lit on fire.
tim pool
Have you seen the photos and the videos of people all hugging the walls now?
ian crossland
Oh, man.
tim pool
In the New York City subways.
So I'll tell you, when I used to take the subway in New York, I would always stay the F away from the edge.
Because, listen, it wasn't that it was the most prominent thing where people were being shoved in front of trains, but there was always four or five crazy guys spitting and yelling and shaking, and I'm like, you just never know.
I've seen fights break out.
Then with all of the people, did you guys see that video from, like, last week?
Where the dude is on his phone, and then some dude just walks up and shoves him right in front of a train.
ian crossland
Yeah, he survived.
That guy did, I heard.
tim pool
Critical injuries, but he survived.
ian crossland
They found the guy that pushed him.
phil labonte
Yup.
tim pool
And why did he do it?
So now there are these videos and photos popping up where everybody's just up against the wall.
ian crossland
Good.
phil labonte
Good?
No, dude.
tim pool
We should have to live this way.
unidentified
And I wonder if it's like downtown Manhattan.
Because we've all taken the subway, and you feel somewhat safe, but then when you get out to the outskirts, I wonder if that's where the craziness happens for the most part.
I mean, one time I was on the subway in Bronx, and some guy looked at me, and I looked at him, and he's like, what you looking at, Eli Manning?
I'll blow your face up.
I was like, what?
He's like, blood will spread everywhere.
I'll knock your ass out.
I was like, what the heck?
phil labonte
You're crazy.
unidentified
You have a mental illness problem as well, and people...
Are on the subways as well, and they're dangerous.
That guy that threatened me that day, he said he was going to shoot me because I was looking at him, called me Eli Manning.
I was like, what?
tim pool
You do look like Eli Manning.
ian crossland
You do.
I was like, oh, hell yeah, you do, dude.
donald j trump
You look like Eli.
unidentified
But it's just a little dangerous.
Now they're just going to have so many people on those subways going in.
Because I saw a video, and the traffic does look less, and so, I mean, all those people are on the subway, and the subway's already packed, and those things are not even clean inside.
They're gross.
phil labonte
I mean, so we did All That Remains, the band that I'm in, did a tour a couple years back, and we had the option of going into Manhattan and playing, or just doing a couple shows outside of the city.
We did one on Long Island, and we did one in Jersey.
Because going into Manhattan is too much of a pain in the balls.
What's the point?
You drive a bus in, you have to, if you can drive...
Drive the bus in.
You can only get dropped off, and the bus can't stay.
The bus has to go and stay at the Vince Lombardi in Jersey.
You cannot bring trucks in.
You can't bring an 18-wheeler or a box truck in.
You can't stay there.
So it just makes everything about playing in the city a pain in the ass.
And we go to the Starland Ballroom in Jersey, which is a phenomenal room.
It's close enough where people will go, like the surrounding area, they'll go to the Starland.
And if you play somewhere, It's not like there are people on Manhattan that won't leave New York.
Of course, there's some people that are like, well, I don't have a car, and so I don't want to go too far away.
But at the same time, if you can go to these other rooms and have the same turnout or better because...
People don't want to go into the city anymore.
What's the point of going to the city?
And I know that All That Remains isn't the only band that's like, I don't want to go and play in the city.
It's too much of a hassle.
I can't get my bus in there.
I can't get our 18-wheeler in there.
We can't get our box truck in there.
It's too much of a pain in the ass to do it.
So why would people go do it?
unidentified
And why are they penalizing tourism as well?
phil labonte
Yeah.
unidentified
And do you feel bad for the people that have these service companies?
because, I mean, if anything, they should be exempt from that congestion fee price because they're trying to make money, and then they just add another fee on top of them.
It makes it even harder for them to make money inside these big cities where it's already hard enough to make enough money.
ian crossland
Are people that have electric vehicles, do they not have to pay?
unidentified
I think they do.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm pretty sure they all do.
It's about congestion.
ian crossland
It's a congestion fee?
unidentified
It's like in California when you just have all these random tourism taxes, and it's like, why are they penalizing you for being a tourist or wanting to come and give money to the city and help like And fuel their economy.
ian crossland
I think that you've got to pay money to cross the bridge, obviously.
The one in New Jersey, for sure, when you enter.
It was $10, $12, $15 back when I was living there 10, 15 years ago.
And I think that was just a payoff.
It was supposed to be a temporary fee.
I could be wrong about that.
I don't know if you guys know this story better.
phil labonte
There are no fees that are ever temporary.
ian crossland
Yeah, they spin it up, and they're like, this is to pay off the cost of the bridge.
And then all of a sudden, they're like, wow, now we use the money for...
phil labonte
I-90 in Massachusetts was supposed to have a toll just until it was finished being made.
And then after that, they held on to it, and they were saying, oh, once the big dig is done, then we'll get rid of the toll.
Big dig's been done for like 15 years or something like that, and they've still got a toll there.
ian crossland
It's kind of like the Panama Canal.
Once you dig it, you want to keep it forever.
Same way with these tolls.
Anyway, I just want to talk about the Panama Canal a little bit.
I'm glad that Trump wants it back.
I mean, it's a military need, but anyway, I digress.
unidentified
And what's annoying, too, about these tolls is if you pull up a lot of times and you want to pay, there's nobody inside the toll box, and so then you just get some random bill that you forget about in your mail, and then you're paying $50.
I mean, I go all across the country, and I have hundreds of dollars of these toll fees.
I'm like, what bridge?
Where did I cross?
ian crossland
Do you easy pass?
unidentified
Do I? Not when I'm renting all these cars.
ian crossland
You can't take your easy pass from car to car?
unidentified
I probably could.
I need to look into that.
tim pool
But here's a funny thing.
This is a congestion pricing advocate attacked at NYC subway station.
I guess not funny.
As new $9 toll pushes people to mass transit.
So be careful what you wish for.
A vocal proponent of the state's controversial congestion pricing plan was attacked in Manhattan subway station over the weekend.
Layla Law Gacico, president of the City Club of New York, which sued Kathy Hochul to implement the unpopular toll for motorists, was bruised and battered.
Geez, man.
ian crossland
Wow, New Yorkers ain't having it.
tim pool
Does that count towards Red Yard's, you know, thing?
phil labonte
She's alive, so thankfully she's alive.
tim pool
Yeah, I feel like I should have taken up Red Yard on that bet, because I think I'd win.
phil labonte
I mean, I think you're right, but at the same time, I wouldn't be surprised if it does get into, you know.
Double or triple digits.
ian crossland
So this is the dude that pushed to get this thing, the lady that pushed to get it implemented, the tax, and then people rose up against it?
tim pool
Yeah, they're very much mad.
ian crossland
They want, like, all people taking Ubers and whatever, autonomous vehicles, basically.
tim pool
They want Waymos.
ian crossland
Yeah, he took those in Phoenix.
For the first time, a driverless vehicle, dude, it was awesome.
tim pool
Except, it's gonna rain, and you're gonna walk out, and the Waymo's gonna pull up, you're gonna sit down, it's gonna drive two blocks, a thunderstorm's gonna start, and it's gonna stop dead in the middle of the street, and it's gonna be like, must wait due to inclement weather.
And you're gonna go, okay, I guess I'm stuck.
ian crossland
Is that coded into the thing?
I don't know much about it.
tim pool
Tesla can't auto-drive when it's a bad storm.
ian crossland
And you can't get, oh, okay.
unidentified
Like...
tim pool
It technically can, but every single time it's rained or snowed out here, it says, like, auto-steer unavailable.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
So, I don't know, maybe Waymo's got that big spinning thing on top that can navigate better.
phil labonte
Waymo doesn't use cameras, do they?
tim pool
It's all sonar.
phil labonte
Really?
ian crossland
And New York's nice gridded, so it's like you're either going straight or you're turning 90 degrees for the most part.
tim pool
Maybe they put nodes on every intersection.
On the corners so the car knows where it is.
And then every other car is going to have this node installed on it.
ian crossland
It would be pretty cool if you walked down to Lower Manhattan and it's just constant.
The cars, they're all moving in synchronicity and then they all stop at once and all the pedestrians move and then they all move in synchronicity again.
tim pool
That's their plan.
That's what the technocrats want.
They want it so that no one owns a car.
You open up your Uber app and you click vehicle and then like an egg-shaped pod pulls up, opens up, and it's just chairs facing each other.
You sit down and it drives you where you want to go.
ian crossland
And then if there's a forest fire, you're like, where's my Waymo?
And you're like, no, get out.
Get out now.
And you're like, but I don't have a car anymore.
Get out.
Good luck getting out of the city.
tim pool
You will owe nothing and you will be happy.
ian crossland
That's what they want?
Ah, man, it's so convenient.
Have you taken a Waymo?
unidentified
I have not.
ian crossland
Have you been in a driverless vehicle?
unidentified
No, just a few Teslas.
tim pool
Yeah, but have you seen that video?
unidentified
The Waymo's are so spooky looking.
They've got these propellers on the top, all these things.
They're like, what?
tim pool
Who was talking about it where the guy was in the parking lot and he was late for his flight and the Waymo was just going in circles in the parking lot?
phil labonte
Nightmare fuel.
tim pool
Was that Cliff talking about that the other day?
unidentified
Do the Waymo's at least have a steering wheel inside?
tim pool
Let's see if I can find that.
phil labonte
It's a regular...
If you sit in the front seat...
The driver's seat, it'll stop and it'll call the customer service of the Waymo.
We found that out firsthand.
ian crossland
You tried?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Because I wanted to put my bag in the driver's seat.
unidentified
Nope.
ian crossland
Because I was like, wait, it's a big empty spot to store something while we're moving.
phil labonte
No, it's not.
ian crossland
But they warned me, don't do it, Ian.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Which is still a little dumb.
In my opinion.
Like, they should utilize that area for storage, of course.
tim pool
Yeah, look at this.
phil labonte
Me, Serge Carter.
tim pool
Man nearly misses flight as self-driving Waymo taxi drives around a parking lot in circles.
Where's the video, though?
phil labonte
Freaking furious.
ian crossland
What is this?
phil labonte
What happens if you just open the...
unidentified
Why is this happening to me on a Monday?
I'm in a Waymo car.
This car may be recorded for quality assurance.
This car is just going in circles.
Poor dude.
Yeah, I got a flight to catch.
Why is this thing going in a circle?
I'm getting dizzy.
Look at what it's doing.
I understand.
I'm really, really sorry, Mike.
We're currently working with the situation of the vehicle.
Is it circling around a parking lot, right?
It's circling around a parking lot.
I got my seatbelt on.
tim pool
I can't get out the car.
The future has gone.
unidentified
What's going on?
phil labonte
I feel like if he'd have done something.
unidentified
Is somebody planning to jump on me?
Yeah.
And I got a flight to Caps.
I understand, Mike.
I'm really sorry for this.
We're working with this, but do you have an access to your Waymo app right now?
Uh, yeah.
I'm gonna be pulling the car over while we are trying to assist the car.
It really is just going in a circle.
Oh my goodness.
I just better not be late for the flight.
You guys are gonna take care of the flight.
That part.
ian crossland
Yeah, she doesn't want to pay for that.
unidentified
This is crazier.
tim pool
Oh, there it goes again!
unidentified
Open the door.
Can't you just do it?
You should be able to handle it.
Take over the car.
You don't need my phone.
I don't have an option to control the car.
Wow.
tim pool
That's amazing, dude.
One of my favorite memes was like, the future is stupid, and it's like, my book ran out of batteries.
phil labonte
It's like, yep.
tim pool
That's where we're at right now.
I'm excited for the future, though.
ian crossland
I love the convenience, but...
Damn, they can drive your car from a distance.
That's pretty crazy.
phil labonte
Have you seen the...
There's a company that offers the dog-style robots.
Offers them now for $1,600.
unidentified
What?
ian crossland
Holy crap, we've got to get one of those.
unidentified
What?
ian crossland
Get an office dog.
Get like three of them for the office.
tim pool
Security parameter checks.
phil labonte
Yeah, I don't know the name of the company off the top of my head, but I'll grab it for you.
I was listening to the All In podcast.
And it's a Chinese company, so anything that's...
tim pool
Oh, I mean, dude, you can get it on Amazon for $4,000.
phil labonte
Exactly.
And they have the humanoid-style one for around $15,000.
tim pool
What?
phil labonte
And now the big breakthrough that they're talking about in AI is agentic AI. So AI that can do things more than just Google search for you, right?
Because that's essentially what LLMs are right now.
But if you can get an AI to say, hey...
tim pool
Oh yeah, here it is.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's crazy.
It's crazy good.
unidentified
Dang.
phil labonte
There's one that it does, yeah.
tim pool
Look at it, it's dancing.
unidentified
What's it doing?
ian crossland
I wonder if I can ride a skateboard, dude.
unidentified
Look at that!
ian crossland
We gotta teach it how to ride a skateboard.
phil labonte
There's one that has wheels.
There's a video of one.
tim pool
Look at it go!
phil labonte
Look at it go, it's got moves.
There's a dude sitting on it with the wheels and it is hauling ass.
unidentified
These will shoot fire as well.
tim pool
Well, I've seen those, yeah.
ian crossland
Dude, mount some cameras to that thing.
unidentified
Give it a skateboard.
tim pool
What's its face doing?
phil labonte
That's just the gyroscope to help.
ian crossland
You know that thing's gonna be able to drop it on the demon dropover.
tim pool
That's not a gyroscope on its face?
phil labonte
Yeah, that's why it's spinning.
Dude.
ian crossland
That thing's gonna be able to skate this park better than anything.
phil labonte
I'm not 100% sure, but that's...
tim pool
No, a gyro's gonna be like a disc inside its body.
phil labonte
Oh, it's a sonar.
tim pool
Sonar?
Yeah, that makes sense.
phil labonte
So, listen, the...
When they...
If they do...
tim pool
Oh, look at that!
They got the human one!
phil labonte
Yeah, this thing is like 15 grand.
ian crossland
Oh, my God.
tim pool
Oh, dude.
phil labonte
It doesn't have hands on it yet, but...
ian crossland
You'll get a skateboard, bro.
tim pool
Can we buy this and just have it run down Martinsburg full speed, like, down Main Street?
ian crossland
Someone will steal it.
Well, maybe, actually.
phil labonte
Look, we're less than a year or maybe 18 months away from androids of being available to do your dishes.
ian crossland
Or your security.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, security is fine.
ian crossland
At least alerting the press.
phil labonte
No, but the point that I'm making is once you get an actual AI that can actually perform tasks...
ian crossland
Yeah, like washing dishes.
phil labonte
Exactly.
The robot like that is $15,000, and what's going to happen is...
Your average middle class person, right?
Poor people aren't going to be able to yet.
But your average middle class person, they're going to look at that and say, I don't have to do dishes, mow the lawn, or go do groceries anymore for $550 a month because they'll finance it?
tim pool
Look at this, that skate park.
You know what I want to do?
I want to get like 50 of them, and then I want to have them attack Special Mike.
ian crossland
You'd beat them all.
tim pool
One of our team riders.
I'd just give them a sword.
Give them a big stick.
unidentified
That out there would be sick.
phil labonte
But I mean, look at $1,500.
So like in the next year or two, like Musk has talked about, you know, at some point in the next five years, there's going to be more robots.
Running around the world than there are humans.
And the reason is because if they're right about the price points and your average person can pay $15,000, $500 a month for five years or whatever, that's right around a used Prius, right?
So if you can get a robot that does all of the annoying housework for you and does it properly for $15,000, you're going to have a massive amount of people that are middle class that will say, I'll pay that monthly bill.
tim pool
I've been watching Westworld.
Because I watched the first season and never watched the rest of it because I hear it's bad.
So I was like, well, you know, I'm waiting for Landman on Sunday, so I put on Westworld.
And this is kind of freaky stuff, you know?
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Have you seen Westworld?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
You know what it's about?
ian crossland
It's like an Old West VR realm or something?
tim pool
It's not VR. It's like they make a bunch of robots that are like humans, so you can just goof off and do whatever you want.
ian crossland
So it's a real place?
It's not a virtual?
tim pool
It's a real place.
ian crossland
Okay.
tim pool
But the robots come to life, like, wake up.
ian crossland
Dude, these things are Chinese.
That's some spyware.
You buy one of these and put them in here.
CCP's got you mapped out.
tim pool
Bro, I'm going to buy like...
I'm buying this.
ian crossland
Special Mike.
tim pool
I'm not going to tell Mike, and I'm just going to have it chase him one day.
He'll walk in and go, hey guys, and it just runs out of the room full speed.
phil labonte
Ian, you're right.
It is basically Chinese spyware, but there's going to be, as the technology progresses, this is the type of thing that will get significantly cheaper as more people buy them.
Just like your cell phones and just like your TVs.
You can buy a TV that has all the...
All the features you could possibly want, HD, 4K, for $1,000.
ian crossland
I imagine cars are intentionally kept expensive.
I could be wrong about that, but $16,000 for a car?
phil labonte
Look at what a Model 3 can do for $35,000.
ian crossland
Yeah.
phil labonte
So it's not that they're intentionally kept expensive.
ian crossland
So with these things, because I want one of these robots, I want to literally go buy one tonight.
I'm not going to, because it's CCP. Are you?
tim pool
Yeah.
I'm going to buy three to have them monitor the perimeter.
phil labonte
That's sick.
tim pool
And they'll just be walking around, and then they'll give us alerts when they encounter people.
ian crossland
Give them each a name, because I want to be like, oh, hello, Rufus.
tim pool
I'm going to number them one, two, and four.
ian crossland
Okay, perfect.
phil labonte
One, two, and Johnny five.
tim pool
Well, the point is, if the people find the three of them, and they say one, two, four, they'll be like, where's the last one?
ian crossland
Did someone let the dogs in at the end of the night?
You won't need to let them in, actually, ever.
tim pool
You know, what I'd love to do is I'd love to have Seamus ride one of them.
ian crossland
The cat or the man?
phil labonte
There's a video of...
ian crossland
Oh, yeah, that'd be cool.
tim pool
Depending on how big they are.
phil labonte
There's a video of a human being riding one with the wheels I saw.
unidentified
I don't know where it was.
phil labonte
I don't think it's on their website, but I saw it.
tim pool
I don't know.
phil labonte
It might have been on YouTube.
ian crossland
There's one with wheels and one without.
tim pool
What is this industry one?
Like, what's the point?
I don't understand.
phil labonte
Unitree.
ian crossland
Oh, so can you swap the legs in?
unidentified
You gotta do all the wheels.
ian crossland
That's cool.
Modular.
And then what industry, like, he'll be used for transporting wood and materials and stuff?
tim pool
Don't you just think it'd be, like, really fun if you were, like, standing and ten of them were running full speed at you and you had, like, a sword and you just had to fight them off?
ian crossland
I'd rather play space pirate.
phil labonte
In the Discord, there's a link to the dude riding it.
unidentified
What?
phil labonte
In the Discord.
tim pool
I don't know if I can pull that one up.
phil labonte
It's on YouTube.
tim pool
Yeah, I know, but what's the title of it?
Why don't you send it to me?
unidentified
There it is.
ian crossland
Your car will become your robot.
I mean, that's what he names an optimist, Elon.
tim pool
He sent it to me.
ian crossland
He's the transformer.
So you could ride your car and then the car will stand up and become like humanoid and then we'll go.
It'd be like a motorcycle.
phil labonte
Yo, look at this.
tim pool
I got it.
phil labonte
Okay.
Yeah.
And this is legit.
unidentified
Like, this is not AI. What?
tim pool
So this is the thing we could buy right now?
Yeah, you can ride it?
phil labonte
Right now.
tim pool
Bro, I'll ride this to the store.
That'd be hilarious.
unidentified
Dude, that'd be awesome.
tim pool
And then, like, when I go inside, I'll be like, RoboDogStay.
unidentified
Wow, look at that.
tim pool
You know, I just want to point something out real quick.
Like, you hear that rock music in the background?
phil labonte
That's AI. Music.
Yeah, I just, I don't know for sure.
tim pool
No, I'm just saying it's kind of funny because we were talking about yesterday that the last rock song to hit number one was in 2001 and it was Nickelback.
It was funny that all these companies use rock as their, like, background music despite, like, not charting.
Oh, it did a 180!
Look at that!
unidentified
Oh, crap, dude.
180. Can you defeat the dog?
ian crossland
You think, oh, I want to fight this thing.
They gave him a skate with that thing, dude.
unidentified
Do you think China ever just laughs at us when we're talking about climate change and meanwhile they're just building all this stuff?
phil labonte
They're like, look at you guys.
Boston Dynamics has stuff that really makes this stuff, or that does all this stuff as well.
It's just that China, they just release it to the public faster than the U.S. is allowed to.
ian crossland
It's like getting your video game console in your house.
tim pool
I want to see it hit that handrail.
Wow, look at that.
Like, that was a...
unidentified
Nintendo just wants you to get the console for cheap so that they can make you buy a bunch of games.
ian crossland
They just want you to get this thing for cheap so they can spy on you.
unidentified
40 kilograms, dude.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
That's carrying 80 pounds.
unidentified
Look at that.
phil labonte
Just over obstacles and stuff.
tim pool
You could have to go to the store and pick up milk for you.
ian crossland
Dang, that thing's got a motor on it.
phil labonte
What?
ian crossland
Here we go.
tim pool
Is this thing real?
I'm buying this.
phil labonte
Put a saddle on with some stirrups to keep your feet off the ground.
ian crossland
He's riding it.
phil labonte
Yeah, I told you.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
phil labonte
You guys...
ian crossland
No, I believed you.
phil labonte
Look at that.
Dude, this thing will do the vert.
tim pool
For real.
I bet it could do the drop-in.
100%.
ian crossland
It's kind of like a motorcycle.
You've just sort of bypassed turning cars into these things and you've built them that have the same function as the car.
Obviously, it's tiny, but that's a quad cycle.
tim pool
You've got to call them and they're in China?
Buy now.
Shop.
$16,000 for the human.
ian crossland
Oh, man.
tim pool
I think we gotta do it.
ian crossland
Yeah, dude.
tim pool
And we gotta put, like, a human silicon mask on it.
ian crossland
That sounds good.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
We'll get, like, an expert with facial reconstruction.
tim pool
Here's the problem.
You go to order it, and it's like, contact us.
It's like, uh-huh.
phil labonte
You probably spend extra to get it.
tim pool
Oh, here we go.
phil labonte
There you go.
tim pool
You can buy it right now.
phil labonte
You can buy one from Amazon for four grand.
ian crossland
Does it come with the wheels?
phil labonte
They have the top...
3D Shop Unitree 29. Unitree.
ian crossland
This is like the deal with the devil.
This is like putting Alexa in my house.
tim pool
We're not going to bring it inside.
unidentified
Alexa off.
tim pool
It's going to walk around outside.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
The EDU weighs 15 kilograms.
Aluminum alloy, high-strength engineering plastic.
ian crossland
Is that the top level?
tim pool
Payload, 8 kilograms.
Aw, see, it's 80-bitty.
ian crossland
8 kilograms.
phil labonte
I might have to buy one to see how it takes 5.56 rounds.
ian crossland
Yeah, geez, what are they made of?
Aluminum.
unidentified
Okay, these things are lightweight.
tim pool
How do I buy the guy?
Could you imagine just like this dude, this robot walking around, and then someone comes here to act a fool, and the robot just walks up?
ian crossland
Or you just have it sitting down there?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Like, security at the front desk.
phil labonte
But, I mean, the point of bringing it up, like, this stuff is, you know, a couple years away from being...
tim pool
You can put an arm on its back.
ian crossland
An arm?
That's pretty sweet.
What would you do with that arm?
tim pool
Throw rocks at people.
phil labonte
Oh yeah, you could spin around real fast and let loose the open doors.
tim pool
Spin it around and sling it at you.
ian crossland
Put a sling on the end of the arm.
tim pool
The future is weird, man.
phil labonte
You know, the...
Robotics are significantly further along than people realize.
We're all pretty plugged into things like this, to technology and stuff like that, and this is a surprise to most people.
tim pool
Oh, dude, we could put the human robot in Ian's seat.
phil labonte
There you go.
ian crossland
That'd be great.
phil labonte
Get a wig for it?
tim pool
And just what we'll do is we'll load in all the episodes of IRL that Ian's been on, and we'll use a large language model to isolate Ian's speech patterns and have it just simulate Ian.
ian crossland
What if I could just voice chat through it?
Into the microphone from home.
That'd be banging.
tim pool
Nah, it's more demeaning if the robot pretends to be you.
ian crossland
That's fine.
Just remind people you're an AI. Hey guys, I'm Robot Ian.
Yeah.
tim pool
Hey Robot Ian.
Have I mentioned graphene yet?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
No!
ian crossland
Buy my coffee.
tim pool
Buy my coffee.
ian crossland
As long as, if they build an AI of me, you've got to always remind the people that you're an AI version.
Because they're going to make AI copies of all of us in the future.
Like, they're like, are you going to live forever?
I don't know what that means, actually, but my personality will be embedded in this video.
phil labonte
The actual robe is the humanoid.
unidentified
But this looks like CGI. No, it's real.
ian crossland
Are you sure?
I do that exercise.
Oh, look at that!
tim pool
Wow!
This is CGI, bro.
phil labonte
No.
There's a part where a human's gonna come in and it's little.
It's actually shorter than a human.
tim pool
Maybe that's why it looks fake.
Oh, yeah, okay, it looks real now.
See, the robots are going to watch these videos and they're going to turn on us.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, oh, no way.
ian crossland
Remember this?
It'll show, like...
tim pool
No, get out of here.
Okay, hold on.
I'm just going to pause real quick.
I'm pretty sure if I actually punched that thing full force, it's fallen down.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean...
unidentified
You hope so.
phil labonte
You're probably right.
ian crossland
He's kind of pulling his punches.
phil labonte
Yeah, but...
unidentified
If you do a flying cross into his chest...
ian crossland
Look at that, dude!
tim pool
That is creepy.
ian crossland
He's folding himself up.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
For packaging.
unidentified
Wow!
ian crossland
Probably 30 pounds?
unidentified
No.
40 pounds?
phil labonte
Oh, it's got a weapon!
tim pool
Oh, man!
unidentified
Now that's...
tim pool
Look at that!
It's threatening us, so we're going to post out.
phil labonte
But I mean, it's not...
ian crossland
Bunch of them!
What is this supposed to show?
Oh, God, an army of robots.
phil labonte
It's not very long until you see...
I mean, it's going to show you the thing doing some stuff around the house.
There you go.
Whoa, it just shattered out.
unidentified
Walnut.
phil labonte
It's not very long until these things are going to be able to do dishes.
ian crossland
Who made the mess?
It's going to be like, robot, did you make the mess?
unidentified
Whoa.
ian crossland
I'm not programmed to clean it yet.
tim pool
It's cooking.
unidentified
*music* Why is it hitting itself in the finger?
phil labonte
I think it's just showing the motions that it can do.
ian crossland
Oh, it's soldering, dude.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Yo, that's wild.
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
Yeah, it's crazy.
phil labonte
You're talking about, you know, a year.
I want to fight that robot.
ian crossland
I think you'll win.
I wonder if it can plunge your toilet.
It'll probably be able to build microchips before it will be able to unclog a drain.
tim pool
Can we program it to defend itself and then have a sparring match with a bokken?
phil labonte
I imagine that's only a couple years away.
tim pool
To be honest, I feel like one hard strike with a bokken, that thing would explode.
ian crossland
It would hold pads for you, I bet, though, if you want to practice roundhouse kicks and stuff.
Kicks and punches.
tim pool
Dude, that guy punching it was not really punching it.
ian crossland
No, he was pulling them.
tim pool
You ever see that video where the woman, she's got the screen protector, and then she grabs the phone and she just bashes it and shatters it, and then she grabs the phone with the screen protector and she lightly taps it to show the screen protector is working?
We get it, dude.
You're not actually trying to break the screen.
ian crossland
I'd like to see Tyson or Jake Paul.
Jake Paul should do it.
He should get one and train with it.
And that would be the biggest publicity stunt where it's holding pads.
tim pool
I got an idea.
We should buy one and then invite Colby Covington to just throw his strongest punch right in its face.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Boom!
ian crossland
And ask the robot what it thought after.
phil labonte
Are they embedded with AI? That's the thing that I was trying to say.
The functionality of it is now limited only by how intelligent the AI you put in it is.
You can program robots to do all sorts of things.
Just computer-aided machining is all robot stuff.
And they can be as...
Like, incredibly delicate and make tiny, tiny, you know, literally only a couple microns of a cut, right?
But that's all programmed by, it's all mapped out.
Early.
When I was mentioning agentic AI, once you get an artificial intelligence in the robot, when you say, go do the laundry, and it can go into your room, pick up all your clothes, put them in the hamper, whatever isn't already in the hamper,
take the hamper into the laundry room, put the clothes into the laundry machine, into the washing machine, put the detergent in, maybe put the fabric softener in, close the top, Set it properly and then turn it on and leave.
That's when people will be like, I'll pay $500 a month for that.
When you can tell your robot, go to the grocery store and get these things.
And then the robot walks out, gets into the Tesla.
ian crossland
It has wheels.
It can drive itself.
phil labonte
You could do that.
But if you're talking about the suburbs, it goes out and gets in the car.
The car drives to the grocery store, goes inside, buys all the stuff you want.
Pays for it because you've given it your credit card.
Walks out and then gets in the car and brings it back and then brings the stuff in and loads it into your fridge and stuff.
ian crossland
Guys, guys, guys, guys.
phil labonte
People will absolutely pay $500.
tim pool
We've got breaking news.
So this broke about...
A half an hour ago, but there's an update on this.
A new wildfire is broken out in Runyon Canyon Park, just north of Hollywood Boulevard.
How are these fires?
Flames are engulfing 10 acres.
They've just issued an evacuation order right now.
So this is just within the past few minutes.
L.A. Fire Department brush fire sunset fire evacuation order.
They say, what does it say?
Hollywood Hills West, approximately 10 acres burning between Runyon Canyon and Wattles Park.
A mandatory evacuation order is now in place for Laurel Canyon.
Bro, I got friends who live up there, man.
This is really terrifying stuff.
So I hope everybody's okay.
I know people who work here have family up there.
This is affecting, this is going to affect millions of people.
Yep.
ian crossland
If you're there, get out.
Listen to this dude.
Get out.
unidentified
Why are they just, like, spawning, too?
Like, the one in Pasadena and the one in...
tim pool
Embers are flying through the air.
90-mile-an-hour winds rip the embers up, they land on the ground, and it goes up.
unidentified
LA's also extremely dense.
Like, if these flames are going to keep going and they haven't contained anything, like, when will this stop?
Like, there needs to be rain.
Like, everyone better be praying for some rain.
On your right is a new fire.
This is the Hollywood Hills.
This is a location that we were given, 2350 North Solar Drive that's between Nichols Canyon and Runyon Canyon in the Hollywood Hills.
There are a number of homes surrounding that.
Chris Christie, are you available to give us some information about this?
Very concerning sight here in the Hollywood Hills.
We're just west of Nichols Canyon, just north of Hollywood Boulevard, where a major fire has just sparked in the last five minutes.
We were over the Pacific Palisades.
We saw the glow coming from over the hill.
And just in the last couple minutes that it took us to get over here to Hollywood, this thing has exploded in size.
You can see northerly winds coming through the canyon here, just west of Nichols, just east of Runyon Canyon.
Canyon and you can see this is all very thick fuel that is fueling this brush fire.
LA City Fire is aware of this fire.
They have immediately called for the 20 closest trucks to respond out here.
However, accessing this fire is going to require more of the trucks.
They're going to have to get a quick reaction force over here as soon as possible or more likely LA City fire choppers over here as soon as possible depending on what resources But this thing is blowing up before our eyes.
That is spreading rapidly.
I'm going to try and get some more exact streets here.
If you bear with me one second, Lucas, pan over to the right.
So that's Runyon Canyon Road to the right there.
And if we pull out, pull out all the way so we can just put this into a frame of reference.
It's just south of Mulholland Drive.
And if we come all the way out, you can see due north of...
Bonita Avenue and Vista Street off of Hollywood Boulevard.
So we're talking about a mile and a half north of Hollywood Boulevard that is now on fire.
It appears to be all brush at this point.
Do not see.
The closest structure just yet.
However, I think there's a house or a group of homes on the north side, on the other side of this fire towards Mulholland.
We can't see it through the smoke right now, but this appears to be majority brush that is fueling this right now.
Chris, I've hiked Runyon Canyon so many times.
I know Mark surely has as well.
And you mentioned the streets, Bonita and Vista.
Those are all the streets that I take to get to Runyon Canyon.
I'm concerned there's a lot of homes there, a lot of apartments.
And our fire resources are already stretched so thin.
Are you seeing any evidence of any response yet?
I know it is dark, and I know we're just starting to follow it.
tim pool
Wow, man.
I know a bunch of people who live right by there.
That's right by Hollywood and Highland.
ian crossland
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
That's like the spot.
phil labonte
Yep.
unidentified
That's like, what, ten blocks west of Highland?
ian crossland
It's like five blocks west of La Brea.
phil labonte
No, no, La Brea is a different area.
tim pool
No, bro.
ian crossland
That's La Brea.
Yeah, it's Hollywood and La Brea, like just northwest.
phil labonte
Oh, I thought you were talking about La Brea Tar Pits.
ian crossland
Runyon's so legit.
I gotta do the pray for rain thing.
I gotta go into my weird, control the weather.
tim pool
Make it rainy in.
ian crossland
Okay.
phil labonte
It's near the Chinese theater.
tim pool
Yep.
ian crossland
I imagine if it burns down to the road, it's going to stop.
phil labonte
No.
tim pool
All those trees, all those buildings.
There's a video of one of these buildings burning and you're looking at metal on fire.
And I'm sitting there being like, the metal frames are burning.
What is burning off that?
Is it magnesium or something?
That's crazy.
unidentified
So you think that was just a little ember that flew and then caught on fire?
tim pool
Yeah, that's usually what happens.
unidentified
I mean, the 90 miles per hour.
tim pool
There was a fire in Jersey.
I lived in Union City, New Jersey for a while.
And a fire.
One building.
And then two blocks away, a church caught on fire.
Because embers from the house went up into the air and then fell down and started the church on fire.
Yup.
Two blocks away and there's only two structures that were affected by it.
Absolutely insane.
ian crossland
I did it during the hurricane.
I focused energy to calm the wind.
Like, you have a magnetic field.
Your body has one.
And so does the earth.
And lightning is magnetic.
Heat is, you know, electrons.
tim pool
I don't think you want to go down this rabbit hole.
Because that means when the fire started, you did nothing.
ian crossland
I did nothing.
tim pool
I've just been enjoying it.
ian crossland
I've been playing the bizarre.
I've been playing a bunch of video games while the world burns.
tim pool
You hear this?
phil labonte
I'm looking at, like, the whiskeys right there.
Oh, yeah.
The comedy store.
Like, all these places that, like, we played.
And, like, really, really famous places in Hollywood.
It's really close to that stuff.
And if it does get down to the roads and stuff, it's not that there's...
tim pool
It's Hollywood.
When people talk about Hollywood, it's Hollywood and Highland.
That's where the Walk of Fame is.
It's where Jimmy Kimmel, I think he's basically right there.
ian crossland
He's at the El Capitan, right across the street.
tim pool
So it's not where the big Hollywood sign is.
phil labonte
No.
tim pool
But when people are like, I want to go to Hollywood, the Walk of Fame is Hollywood Boulevard.
And Hollywood Highland, it's like you've got Ripley's right there, you've got all the restaurants, all the little knick-knack stores.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's like 15 blocks away from Runyon, roughly.
And then there's the Sunset Strip, just a couple blocks south of Hollywood is Sunset.
phil labonte
I mean, I'm not sure the exact area that was destroyed in the Palisades, but if this fire does get down into Hollywood, into the actual populated areas to where the streets are, you could see a lot of damage really, really fast.
ian crossland
They've got to be getting cars, I would imagine.
Now the fire trucks are...
On Franklin, on Hollywood.
phil labonte
It's in the canyon right now, and there's no roads that can actually lead to it.
I don't know how it started, but where it is, you can look at it.
It's in the canyon, so if they're going to be able to get trucks to it before it gets out of...
I mean, it's already probably out of hand, I guess.
tim pool
Yeah, man, this is...
phil labonte
It's bad.
tim pool
This is crazy.
Just north of Hollywood Boulevard.
phil labonte
It's nuts.
unidentified
The only way it will stop is if it rains or if somehow they figure out how to contain it.
phil labonte
What's the weather?
unidentified
Show me.
ian crossland
I want to look.
tim pool
Uh, dry.
That's it.
phil labonte
Not raining.
tim pool
Nothing.
Sunny and dry for a week.
unidentified
I swear California's got to be cursed or something.
phil labonte
Doomed.
It is the government's fault, though.
Like, all this stuff, like, fires are natural.
And there's a lot of plants and stuff like that that have, over the course of thousands of years, they've evolved to be able to survive this stuff.
Because of the humans in this area, they don't want fires, so they do everything they can to put them out.
And if you leave the fuel on the ground, it's going to happen.
tim pool
Fires are usually small.
phil labonte
Yep, exactly.
tim pool
When we stop them...
And the tinder builds up.
You're creating a recipe for it.
You're creating a literal tinderbox.
You've got to manage that.
You've got to go to the forest floor sweeping.
And Trump called them out over this.
They wouldn't do it.
This was years ago.
It's like 2019. Trump has this thread where he's like, they're not doing the floor management.
They make fun of him for it.
So at a certain point, it's just like, what can you do?
unidentified
Too late to play defense when they should have been playing offense.
tim pool
What do you do for people who entertain and enjoy a life that leads to these things and then scream and beg for help?
Like, obviously we help them, but, like, there's only so much we can do.
Yeah, like...
unidentified
They're gonna be recovering for a very, very long time.
I mean, Maui, Hawaii, I went there a few months ago, still completely destroyed.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, they're not...
unidentified
Like, nothing.
Like, nothing has been built in the main parts.
tim pool
Palisades aren't gonna come back for decades.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
If anything.
unidentified
No, and then...
tim pool
The land is gonna be worth nothing.
unidentified
And then on top of all the restrictions they have just to build stuff, all the permits you have to get inside California, like, cooked.
They're done.
Wow.
For a while.
tim pool
That's crazy.
unidentified
Do you guys think Hollywood's cursed?
California's cursed?
tim pool
Oh, well, I think that good men do nothing and California's turned into this.
unidentified
Do you think all this bad, like all this Hollywood corruption, pedophilia stuff is now coming back to like...
ian crossland
Hedonistic...
tim pool
I don't think it's supernatural.
I think that when you...
unidentified
God's coming to chastise them?
tim pool
No, I don't think it's supernatural at all.
When you have evil people ripping apart at the foundations for personal benefit, it falls apart.
The collapse is inevitable when you have...
Like, Sodom and Gomorrah don't need God to smite them.
They cannot sustain themselves on their own.
Cities of debauchery and degeneracy will fall apart.
ian crossland
Also, I think that one of them was built on a sulfur mine, and there, you learn the hard way, if you light a match over a sulfur mine, there's a big explosion, and there goes Gomorrah, or whatever the hell, one of those cities.
So you build a city in the desert, and you rely on imports for water.
Well, there you go.
I guess they had a river.
unidentified
There's just so many things they could have done just years and years ago to...
Prevent something to this level.
I mean, you can't stop all forest fires, but to this level, there needs to be something that they should have been able to prevent it.
ian crossland
Man, this is the downside of...
What was that?
tim pool
So there's a lot they could have done.
ian crossland
Yeah, the downside of voting for your candidates and having them seeking re-election is that they waste so much time trying to raise money and please people.
The upside of authoritarian governments, which is also, I don't like it, is they move very quickly.
They can just get...
Masses of slaves together, hordes of people, and command them, you're all doing this now.
And if that means you're all digging out the sticks out of the woods in, you know, Southwest California, they're going to be doing it.
They're going to be building pyramids.
They're going to be doing it.
phil labonte
California has Apple.
They've got IBM. They have plenty of tax base in that state to be able to have enough funds to deal with this.
They have Hollywood and they have Silicon Valley.
There is ample money.
In taxes that California takes in, they're the ninth largest or something like the ninth largest or fifth largest economy on Earth.
Bigger than like 185 of the countries on Earth.
So it's not a matter of funding or whether or not...
unidentified
And they tax more than any other state in the United States.
phil labonte
Exactly.
So it's not a matter of they can't afford it.
They absolutely can afford it.
They have the tax base that they need.
It's a lack of will.
They don't want to.
tim pool
Or it's force of will.
They want the state to fall apart.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, that could be.
But people have been leaving in droves.
This is only going to drive more people out.
People that have money that are like, you know, Calabasas.
I have a friend that I just texted.
He lives in Calabasas.
And I was like, yo, how you doing?
He's like, things are okay for now.
But like, I mean, if you're...
If you were up in Calabasas, right, and you're seeing this stuff happening 45 minutes away, 30 minutes away from your house, why are you going to stay?
There's a lot of people that are just going to be like, I'm getting out of here, man.
I'll sell my house, and they might sell it for a loss.
They probably have multiple other homes, but getting out of there is probably going to be on the radar of a lot more people because that's already been happening.
This kind of tragedy, this kind of disaster that could have been prevented, there are smart people in those houses that are going to be like, man, it's time to beat it because I can't insure my home anymore.
tim pool
We didn't get into the story, but we'll talk about this in the members only when someone tweeted, James Woods' home is burning, it's karma.
Keith Olbermann was basically saying good and cheering for this.
I'm telling you, these people are evil.
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For now, we'll read your Super Chats.
Eric Branson says this is not PG&E territory.
This is L-A-D-W-P or SoCal Edison.
ian crossland
Wow.
unidentified
L-A-D-W-P or SoCal Edison.
tim pool
Yeah, Department of Water and Power, I think.
Is that what it is?
ian crossland
Yeah, it sounds like it.
tim pool
Brad Peters says, with everything that's been happening in California for the last decade, I can only conclude these fires are acts of God, praying for the victims regardless.
You know what, man?
I do understand why you would feel that way, but I genuinely think there's a strong possibility that people like Newsom know that what they're doing will result in catastrophe, and they want it to happen.
Remember when prices were collapsing in New York?
Bill de Blasio said he was going to buy up buildings for pennies on the dollar to convert them into public buildings, public housing.
These communist Democrat types, I'm not saying all Democrats are communists, I'm saying the communists that are masquerading as good American politicians.
phil labonte
Bill de Blasio is a commie.
tim pool
Absolutely is.
They want to burn down the system and then buy the land for pennies.
Now the palace side is worthless.
unidentified
And Newsom does not care about his people.
tim pool
No.
ian crossland
What does he do?
unidentified
Makes a lot of money by funneling money from other organizations that help him buy $5 million houses in San Francisco.
ian crossland
Dang.
tim pool
All right.
Let's see.
Chirst says, Tim, don't let up on the mayor.
The left went after Ted Cruz during the freeze in Texas because he was on vacation.
Yeah, but I think the freeze happened and then he went on vacation, right?
phil labonte
Yeah, and also Ted Cruz is a senator.
He's not the mayor or the governor.
Like, what's a senator supposed to do?
Like, a senator doesn't have any power inside of Texas.
A senator represents Texas in Washington, D.C. The freeze didn't happen in Washington, D.C. So it was just...
It was only, you know, for looks that they went after Ted Kennedy.
The actual stuff that's going on...
Yeah, Ted Cruz.
I'm sorry.
But the actual stuff that's going on in California, like the mayor and the governor could have done something about this.
tim pool
Stevie Bebe says, Did Bad Religion have it right 20 years ago with Los Angeles's Burning?
Maybe, but I will give a shout out to Bad Religion for what is one of the best songs ever, You.
You guys know that one?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Those lyrics are epic.
unidentified
I should.
tim pool
Wasn't Tony Hawk 2's soundtrack?
Yeah, but I absolutely love the writing in that song.
There's a place where everyone can be right.
Even though you remain determined to be opposed.
Admittance requires no qualifications.
It's where everyone has been and where everybody goes.
So please try not to be impatient, for we all hate standing in line.
But when the farm is good and bought, you'll be there without a thought.
Eternity, my friend, is a long fucking time.
ian crossland
Ooh, I like that.
tim pool
It's great.
It's brilliant.
The place where everyone can be right.
ian crossland
All one.
All alone.
As Duncan Trussell said, the word alone is like the word all one.
It's like where everything is all...
phil labonte
Did you guys know that the mayor of Los Angeles cut the fire department by 17.6 million dollars?
tim pool
Yes.
phil labonte
I didn't know that.
tim pool
And they sent excess supplies to Ukraine.
phil labonte
Unbelievable.
Oh, that's...
Yup!
tim pool
Man, I wish we got into all of this.
Like, there's just so much.
ian crossland
It's making me want to borrow Serge's cast for tonight.
phil labonte
We walk in and Tim's like, man, there's no news tonight.
tim pool
Well, no, no, I was saying the only news is the wildfire.
So, everybody, hear me now.
YouTube.com slash TimCast.
So, my first channel on YouTube, I did a video essay every day at 4pm.
And then the morning show, which is Timcast News, is just like press go, press record, and then talk about the news.
The YouTube.com slash Timcast videos at 4 p.m. are more like essays where we bring up all this evidence and everything.
We're bringing it back.
Today we launched the first one.
It was a little bit late.
It went up at 5.
We're going to bring them up at 4 p.m. today.
Today, we went over why the fact checkers were biased, showing actual articles and proof and studies proving that the Facebook fact checkers were biased and targeting conservatives.
Tomorrow, we're doing a deep dive on the wildfires and how it is quite literally the fault of Democrat politicians.
Trump warned them they gave away equipment to Ukraine.
They cut the budget.
They refused to hire firefighters because they wanted less white men.
This is exactly what we've all been talking about for so long.
Sarnovich had a great tweet, I think it was Sarnovich, where he said, DEI is literally killing people.
Insane.
So tomorrow, youtube.com slash Timcast, 4pm.
The show is coming back.
We're bringing back the deep dive essays.
ian crossland
How's it work?
Is it just you on a camera or do you have a team?
unidentified
Oh, cool.
ian crossland
Do you have people sourcing info with you?
tim pool
So when I first did the show, it was just me.
I did everything.
But now we have a great team.
And so Lisa Reynolds, who has guest hosted Culture Award.
Yeah, she does booking for the show.
She's super smart, well-connected.
She's helping produce the underlying facts and everything.
So that way I can do the morning show and then also produce the essay breakdown.
ian crossland
Oh, that's cool.
tim pool
So the way we did it today was she basically wrote a preliminary script and then I just – I read – so it's a mix of me reading but also going off the cuff.
And adding things to it.
So it's like co-written by us.
She launches it.
I read it.
I add a few stories to it.
And then we're getting an editor who's going to put it all together so that we can get out.
It was 18 and a half minutes.
The goal is to get a deep dive on all of these big stories with facts and sources.
So it's more than just like on my morning show, I kind of just say, here's how I feel about things.
What I used to have on the Timcast was basically like, here's what happened with the fact checkers.
Here's what Zuckerberg said.
Here's what the news said.
The fact checkers are claiming.
That they're not biased.
Here's proof from Duke University and like the Missouri University Public Affairs Department proving bias.
Here's all sides proving bias.
Here's the meter.
Here's the images.
Here's the evidence.
And here's their statement.
So that way it's much less opinion and much more deep dive fact on these issues.
unidentified
That's awesome.
ian crossland
I like seeing things side by side.
Like the lie and then the contradiction right literally next to each other on the screen.
tim pool
Oh, that's one of the things that we did at the end of the episode was I showed the two Politico articles.
One that says...
That Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election to help Hillary.
And then the other Politico article, same company, saying the claim that Ukraine interfered was Russian disinformation.
Both stories considered true and contradictory.
And I'm like, this is it.
So right now, Lisa's working on pulling up all of that info, a lot of stuff we talked about.
But we're going to pull up the videos, we're going to pull the documents, and we're going to show exactly when they said no more white firefighters.
When they said sending Ukraine, all the stuff.
Exactly when they said we're not going to divert water to save the smelt.
All of that stuff, breaking it down.
And our hope is that we'll get a video up every single day of the week.
Sunday to Sunday, no stopping.
unidentified
Impressive.
tim pool
Yeah, because...
I used to do it on my own.
Now we're going to have a team, so I'll be able to basically record them Monday through Friday, and then we'll get extra ones done throughout the week that we can put up on the weekends that are more evergreen.
ian crossland
Use that chat GPT to organize.
tim pool
GPT's all fake, dude.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's pretty surface level.
tim pool
It's worse than that.
And look, honestly, I like Grok and I like GPT, but...
People went to Grok and said, did Tim Cass sell to The Daily Wire?
And it was like, yes.
And it was just like literally a rumor that wasn't true.
ian crossland
But Grok, he didn't.
Did he sell?
No.
tim pool
Right.
And then it would be like, he didn't.
And you'd be like, but you said he did.
It's like, I must have been wrong.
And it's like, okay.
ian crossland
Sorry to interrupt you.
Is there a better one than GPT and Grok yet?
Have you noticed anything better?
tim pool
They're both good at different things.
Yeah.
Let's read some more Super Chats.
We've got this from Samuel Arriton.
Says, the entire West Coast restricts timber harvesting, doesn't brush roads or make enough slash burns, doesn't do enough backburns, won't add fire breaks, allows dead and down to build up over decades, and then blames the climate.
We lose jobs in forests.
Hear, hear.
Sounds like a forester.
They were talking about in Fox News that there's downed trees and they leave them.
ian crossland
Ugh.
tim pool
You've got to remove them.
Those things burn.
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
Nuts, man.
They don't care.
phil labonte
Especially in California where they dry out so fast because it's such a dry climate.
It is so ridiculous to leave that stuff.
It's so dangerous.
Clearly.
tim pool
Yeah.
Alright, what have we here?
common sense fishing says i live in california central valley a lot of the issues with the delta farming and sport fishing reservoirs recreation camping power creation via dams etc better question is why build megacity in a desert la already steals all of california's water here here yeah william mulholland was one of the guy that uh redirected all that water from the owens river valley in the early 1900s to help create They named Mulholland Drive after the guy.
unidentified
Helped create Los Angeles and screwed over a bunch of farmers to do it.
tim pool
Wow.
We got Riley Butts.
He says, I will accept Canada being adopted by America if Mexico gets California.
If there were 51 countries who are reliant on the U.S. for their own independence, they get two votes in the Senate and they get approximately 350 million people, 560 electoral votes.
Fair.
I don't know.
If we brought Canada, it wouldn't be the 51st state.
It would be a collection of states.
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
And so you'd add a bunch of red states, but it still is dominated by liberals.
ian crossland
Yeah, probably annex state by state if we're going to take.
Take.
If the country wanted to join us.
tim pool
We'll keep the red ones in Canada.
unidentified
Could they just make them all territories and then not have them?
tim pool
That's too respectful.
I'd say we make them colonies subjugated by the American empire.
ian crossland
We need to negotiate with Emperor Charles because he's the king of Canada right now.
The monarchy of Canada.
So we'll have to dislodge that somehow.
tim pool
Oh, it's wild how old the queen was.
So, like, now King Charles is the king, but he's also basically got, like, a year left to live.
ian crossland
And then Harry?
Harry?
tim pool
No, he was out, isn't he?
ian crossland
No, it's his brother, William.
phil labonte
Prince William.
He's, like, 30 or 35. No, he's probably pushing 50, yeah.
ian crossland
He's younger than me, I think.
phil labonte
I don't think so.
ian crossland
Anyway, that guy.
unidentified
I talked to a lady in Canada about becoming the 51st state, and I was like, do you think they'd be able to stand in the United States?
She's like, well, you remember what happened to the White House?
Remember what happened to the White House?
We know where it's at.
We know where the White House is at.
phil labonte
My bad, he's 42. What does she mean by that?
unidentified
I guess at one point the Canadians came down and burned down the White House.
phil labonte
It was British.
unidentified
We went to Montreal.
She was also a witch.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
We were about to conquer Montreal and then they burned down the White House and we were like, God crap.
But then in the Mexican-American War, I think it was, we actually won and seized half of Mexico, and then Polk was like, I don't want it.
And the American people actually wanted to keep it, and they were like, yo!
They were pissed.
ian crossland
Is it because he couldn't defend it?
tim pool
No, I don't know.
unidentified
I don't get why people are mad about us, like, wanting to expand.
I think it'd be pretty cool if we expanded.
tim pool
It's funny because the same people who are like, we shouldn't take Greenland, are like, we should conquer Ukraine and crush Russia!
I'm like, uh, let's not go to war.
ian crossland
Did you guys see, um, Zelensky interviewed by, uh, Lex Friedman?
unidentified
Really cool, actually.
ian crossland
Historic.
I didn't watch the whole interview.
I've watched, like, 20 minutes, 15 minutes.
tim pool
I heard Friedman cooked him.
ian crossland
Did he?
tim pool
I don't know.
ian crossland
Held his feet to the fire?
tim pool
I heard that.
I didn't watch it.
unidentified
It's actually very good.
And we're living in a cool time where we literally have a war going on and that president is giving a three-hour podcast.
As well.
ian crossland
Super legit.
unidentified
And Lex did it in Ukraine, Russian, and English.
They spoke between the three.
And he had some AI that made the voices sound literally exactly the same for when it switched and whatnot.
tim pool
Except it was very robotic.
unidentified
When Lex talked, it was very...
tim pool
That's Lex!
Yeah, but it's also...
unidentified
It was awesome.
tim pool
A little bit more than normal.
ian crossland
He criticized the AI. He was like, it didn't capture the way we felt when we were talking.
But it's effective enough, I guess.
unidentified
Lex, we know you don't feel.
All the Ukrainians were so mad at Lex Romin for wanting to do the interview.
Yeah, they're very sensitive.
sad.
ian crossland
What was the video?
unidentified
Well I did a full documentary on it and then I also did a video I walked around Kyiv and I showed like these nice parts of Kyiv and I was like this is where your taxes are going and there's like BMWs and Teslas and it and like the Ferris wheel.
And people got really mad.
tim pool
What time of year did you go?
unidentified
Uh, last...
Like, four or five months ago.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
So, like, fall.
unidentified
Yeah.
And, I mean, it's really, really sad.
tim pool
You went to My Dan?
unidentified
No, I just went to Kiev, Boucha.
tim pool
Yeah, My Dan is in Kiev.
unidentified
Yeah, probably.
Like, I can't remember all the names.
tim pool
It's like, you know, that big glass slide?
The mall where it's, like, they've got that big...
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I went down there, I'm pretty sure.
tim pool
Some dudes tried to slide down it.
And they, like, shattered their spines.
unidentified
What the f...
tim pool
Yeah, it's like a mall in Maidan Square in Kiev, and it's like this steep glass, and there's a video of some dudes like, we're gonna slide down it, and then you hear it.
You hear the crunch, and they're like, what are you thinking, dude?
It was like three stories.
unidentified
Whoa.
ian crossland
Like straight down?
tim pool
Yeah, let me see.
I'll play to the members only.
unidentified
Keep was an interesting place, and you'd think people would be very skeptical about talking about the war, but...
Oh yeah, I found it.
ian crossland
Were they just exhausted on the war in Kyiv?
unidentified
Yeah, and it's sad because there'd be eight girls and one guy.
All the young men my age are at war.
And so I thought it was actually cool in that Lex Freeman interview when Zelensky's talking like, yes, we will work on something with Trump.
Because, I mean, there's going to get to a point where Russia's going to have no more middle-aged men or teenagers to go out and fight.
And, I mean, Ukraine's already...
tim pool
They're already pulling in women.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And 50-year-olds.
unidentified
I mean, the only people, like, I obviously saw their teenagers and whatnot, but there's also so many people my age walking around with, like, one leg.
Wow.
tim pool
Well, Russia's bringing in North Koreans, and they're bringing in Houthis.
phil labonte
Are they bringing in Houthis, too?
tim pool
Fact check me on that one.
I'm pretty sure I thought they were bringing in Houthis, but I could be wrong about that.
ian crossland
Where are they from?
tim pool
Yemen.
phil labonte
Yemen.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Yeah.
Let me get a fact check on that one.
phil labonte
Checking right now.
unidentified
Something also interesting about the people in Ukraine.
tim pool
Yep.
Russia recruits Yemeni mercenaries to fight in Ukraine.
unidentified
Oh.
phil labonte
Russia reportedly used Yemeni fighters recruited through a company linked to the Houthi rebels to fight in Ukraine.
tim pool
Wild dude.
unidentified
Oh, I was saying like...
phil labonte
Oh, they were...
According to multiple reports, Yemeni men were lured to Russia with promises of a lucrative job and Russian citizenship, only to be coerced into signing military contracts they could not read and sent to fight on the front lines in Ukraine.
unidentified
Sick!
phil labonte
Wow, that is rough.
Never trust the Russians.
ian crossland
Man, you knew Germany was really losing the war when Hitler started drafting 64-year-olds.
I think he raised the draft age up to 64. It was like 14-year-olds.
I don't know if it was that.
I'm pretty sure it was super, super young and 64-year-old.
But that was like when the Russians were entering Germany and the Allied forces were entering Western France and stuff.
tim pool
Let's grab this one again.
Mike ZeroSource says, Tim, did you catch Benny Johnson's videos about homeless people starting fires all over L.A.? I didn't, but we did mention that the other night.
We had a story from only a week ago.
In Bakersfield, in California, homeless people were setting record amounts of fires.
Here we are.
I kind of feel like it's very probable that homeless people started these fires.
unidentified
And they got propane tanks, too.
When you go into these homeless encampments, a lot of these people have propane tanks.
And they just start fires out in the street.
ian crossland
Okay, conspiracy theory.
Illegally entered the country.
Militant age men from some foreign hostile country.
Maybe they were even Russian.
Who knows?
They colluded to light a bunch of fires over the course of two days in Los Angeles when it's dry.
And they wanted it in Runyon.
tim pool
I mean, the economic damage is tremendous.
unidentified
Huge.
ian crossland
And they don't have to do anything.
They just light the spark and walk away.
It's crazy.
tim pool
Well, to be fair, like, the humidity is at.78, like, record low humidity or something.
What was that?
And we got Karen Bass, or what are you talking about?
We got multiple wildfires, that?
Aerial footage of Los Angeles?
unidentified
Let's pull it up.
ian crossland
Oh, good.
unidentified
Wow.
Wow, man.
tim pool
It's spreading.
unidentified
Are those little ones, are those also fires right there?
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Can't hear you, bro.
ian crossland
He's saying it's 90 mile an hour winds in search of sand.
What is that, like high up or like down near the ground?
tim pool
They're flying in a plane.
ian crossland
No, no, I mean the winds.
Are the winds 90 mile an hour winds high up?
tim pool
Oh, it's on the ground.
It's blowing the fire.
ian crossland
And the fire's contributing to the speed of the wind because of the heat?
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
You're sure?
tim pool
Yes.
ian crossland
Because it was doing that in the firestorms in Germany.
I mean, nuclear bombs will cause massive gusts of wind.
phil labonte
The Santa Ana winds, they're an annual thing.
It's crazy windy this time of year out there.
tim pool
100 mile an hour in Altadena, or in La Cunada, that's crazy, man.
I got a lot of friends who live down there.
phil labonte
Yeah.
ian crossland
It's like a hurricane.
100 mile an hour was a hurricane.
tim pool
That's right, it is.
They're calling it hurricane force winds.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's crazy because, you know, I lived in L.A. for a couple years, and so...
Like, Hollywood is not nice.
People should understand.
You know?
Like, broke people like to live in and around Hollywood.
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
Palisades is wealthy.
And you're not...
I think Santa Monica is rent-controlled, so I knew a lot of young people who had, like, rent-controlled apartments.
ian crossland
That's nice.
Beautiful area.
Venice is...
I lived in Venice, just south of Santa Monica.
Kind of scummy, but super nice.
tim pool
Venice is super scummy.
ian crossland
Homeless people.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
I lived there when they made it law that the homeless people could no longer sleep on the beach in their campers.
phil labonte
Yeah.
ian crossland
And they'd pull them all out.
When was that?
unidentified
Like, 2010. Really?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
That's when I was there on then, and everybody was sleeping.
ian crossland
Yeah, it was awesome.
It was kind of cool that they were in their campers.
tim pool
They had showers.
Yeah, they had public showers right there.
And it's not like bathing showers, it's beach showers.
So it's like, there's like a brick structure with pipes that come out, and it's just totally open to the public.
You walk up and press the thing, and it sprays with water.
You're not going in a booth or anything like that?
ian crossland
I thought it was nice, because I was like, well, if there's going to be homeless people, this is a good place for them to be, but they're just harassing tourists.
tim pool
Oh, dude, the Bloods and the Crips were there every day at the skate park?
phil labonte
KTLA, the station might have to evacuate.
unidentified
Whoa.
ian crossland
Where's that?
In LA. Do you know where it's located, in the city?
phil labonte
In Hollywood.
ian crossland
Oh, jeez.
tim pool
KTLA. Wow.
All right, Citizen7 says, Tim, I spent a few years in Scotland as a preteen, not a single power line in sight.
In the sky, everything was underground and the view of the sky was pristine.
Yeah.
unidentified
Where was that?
tim pool
In Scotland.
ian crossland
Oh, dang.
phil labonte
Which, I mean, you know, depending on where it is, it's possible for some things.
ian crossland
Okay, let's start getting real quick.
tim pool
Gunface says, California passed a law that says insurers must provide insurance for high-risk areas with price controls.
That's why they pulled out of California.
phil labonte
Oh, they pulled out of California totally, which makes perfect sense.
You know?
tim pool
Oh, dude, we pulled out of California.
That's not a joke.
ian crossland
Zuckerberg just pulled out of California.
tim pool
Tim Cass does not contract anyone or hire anybody who lives in California because the laws are so insanely oppressive that we just have nothing to do with it.
And I think California still tried coming after us for some reason, and we're like, we don't do any business in California at all.
ian crossland
None.
We did that with mines, too.
We had issues with California.
It was weird.
Zuckerberg just moved the headquarters and now he's moving Facebook headquarters from Palo Alto to Texas.
tim pool
The whole headquarters?
ian crossland
Yeah, I think that's what he said.
He's moving the headquarters to Texas.
tim pool
I thought he said the moderation team.
ian crossland
I think he said the headquarters.
tim pool
Wait, they passed this thing about you can't contract people anymore?
It's like after a certain amount of contracted jobs, gigs they do, they have to be given a full-time position?
So we just immediately were like, we will no longer work with anyone out of California.
ian crossland
Oh, and the gig economy was flourishing at that time when they made that stupid law.
tim pool
I think sports, what website was it?
SB Nation was a Vox company and they fired like 200 writers because they were like, dude, we don't have staff writers.
People sell us stories and we'll pay them for it.
And they're like, no, you got to hire them full time.
unidentified
And it's like, why did they make business so impossible to do there?
tim pool
Because they want to burn it all down.
Like, here's the thing.
Imagine you make birdhouses right in your garage.
And then you come to me and you're like, hey, you want to buy a birdhouse?
I'm like, sure.
I'm going to buy a birdhouse from you.
And California goes, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You have to hire him as an employee.
And you're like, what?
I only want a birdhouse.
Yeah, well, you're buying a birdhouse once a month.
And I'm like, I know.
I like birdhouses.
And they're like, well, he's an employee now.
Okay, sorry, dude.
I can't buy birdhouses from you anymore because I'm not hiring you as an employee.
And that's basically what they did.
And it was funny because the Democrats were the ones who pushed that.
The unions did.
Because the unions were like, the gig economy is destroying the unions, and then all of these liberals lost their jobs because of it.
Sorry!
You reap what you sow.
Alright, let's grab one more here.
Let's see, what do we got?
We'll grab this here.
What does this say?
Alex Lulo says, one thing people forget to notice is that the president talked to us for a lengthy address and we understood him.
That's a good point.
ian crossland
Am I Biden or Trump?
tim pool
Trump.
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unidentified
Nick Shirley on everything.
Thank you so much for having me on.
ian crossland
Nick Shirley with two Y's on X. On X. When you're going to subscribe.
unidentified
Nick Shirley on YouTube.
I'm going to Greenland on Monday.
We're going to go talk to the people in Greenland.
ian crossland
What are you going to talk about?
unidentified
About becoming part of America.
See what they want to say.
tim pool
Love it.
unidentified
I see what they got to say.
tim pool
Where do you got to fly in from?
Canada?
Fly to Newfoundland and then fly to Greenland or something?
unidentified
Fly to Iceland and then from Iceland.
tim pool
Iceland!
unidentified
There's only two places you can either go in from Copenhagen or from Iceland.
tim pool
Ah, you're going to spend any time in Iceland?
unidentified
No.
I'm just going to spend four days in Greenland, go hang out with the people down there, go talk to them.
tim pool
Give yourself a day in Reykjavik, man.
It's fun.
unidentified
Yeah, we'll see what happens.
It's going to be interesting.
tim pool
Right on.
unidentified
I mean, I think it'd be a good idea if they became part of the United States.
tim pool
I agree.
unidentified
And I mean, if we can give billions of dollars to...
Ukraine, I think we could give a billion dollars to Greenland and each citizen would get around $17,000.
I think they'd probably be stoked.
phil labonte
You'd do $5 billion and everybody gets a $500,000.
Go ahead, Ian.
ian crossland
Oh, well, follow me at Ian Crossland.
It's good to be back.
Good to be here.
Thanks, Phil.
Catch you later.
Bye, everyone.
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