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Dec. 11, 2024 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool

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CEO Assassin Suspect Manifesto LEAKS, SCREAMS Leftist Nonsense At Cops w/Colonel Kurtz | Timcast IRL

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The manifesto of the suspected CEO assassin Luigi Mangione has leaked And boy, I gotta say, he is not a smart fella.
		I don't know if this guy is the actual assassin.
		They believe he is because they found stuff on him.
		But let's be real.
		If some crackpot leftist three days after the assassination decided...
		I can only say that his light two-page manifesto...
		It's 262 words, has been leaked by some independent journalists, by an independent journalist, Ken Klippenstein, I believe his name is.
		And this dude is dumb.
		I'm sorry, I'm just going to say it.
		He outright says in the manifesto he can't articulate his argument.
		And it's just like, you're advocating for murder and you don't even know why?
		You can't even express your idea?
		Yikes, these people are dangerously stupid.
		All right, well, we're going to talk about that.
		And then we've got a bunch of other stories surrounding this, of course.
		But I'm really excited to talk about the UFOs because apparently they got these crazy drones over New Jersey that have actually started to cause an escalating problem.
		It's starting to pick up in the news cycle.
		So more and more people are wondering why there are high-tech, sophisticated drones flying over Jersey.
		Some people think it may just be U.S. military tech.
		But the United States has now released images of UFOs.
		I'm not kidding.
		From their, I believe it's called Immaculate Constellation Program.
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		Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Colonel Kurtz.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		What's up?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, who you are?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're not actually the Colonel Kurtz.
unidentified		I am.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You are.
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You stole the name.
unidentified		Just got back from my third tour in NAMM. Oh, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So who are you?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What do you do?
unidentified		So my name is Kristen.
		I have been on the show before, actually, or the culture war, and I talked about my time in academia as a lecturer of English.
		So I got my PhD in English, spent many years in the academy, and And started a YouTube channel and started out covering mostly Me Too scams like the Johnny Depp hoax and the Marilyn Manson Me Too hoax and expanded in some other stuff.
		I talk about politics at times and, of course, film.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, right on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, thanks for hanging out.
unidentified		Thank you for having me here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ian's here.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I thought you said, of course, Phil, who we also have on the show, but you said film.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Film, you said film.
unidentified		I have a whole side channel where we talk about Phil.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Who doesn't talk about Phil Labonte?
		Ladies and gentlemen, Phil Labonte, lead singer of All That Remains in the House.
		I'm going to intro Phil tonight.
		He's a great guy, super logical, really open-minded.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's an anti-communist.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, counter-revolutionary, fun to go on long car rides with.
		Phil Labonte, ladies and gentlemen.
		Phil Labonte.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Ian Crossland, everyone.
		He's here.
		He is thinking about graphene per the norm.
		I am Phil Labonte, just like Ian said.
		Anti-communist, counter-revolutionary, lead singer of All That Remains.
		Let's get started.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
		We got the story from the Post Millennial.
		Manifesto of UnitedHealthcare CEO murder suspect released...
		So, normally, I gotta tell you, I actually don't like showing the pictures, the names, and the manifestos of these people who do these things because that was what they were trying to do.
		This dude clearly was trying to get his name out there, get attention, and push this cause.
		So, during the police transfer earlier, he was screaming leftist garbled nonsense about his lived experience.
		I am not exaggerating.
		We'll talk about it in a second.
		But considering the ubiquity of this guy's profile and what he represents, it's not something you can ignore.
		In a lot of these circumstances, the media might say like, hey, look, we don't want to give this person attention who's trying to get it.
		Everybody and their grandmother is trying to give this guy attention.
		The left is cheering for him.
		So I think it would be prudent to actually look at what his motivations are so we can rip them to shreds.
		Because if we don't, the left is sharing the manifesto.
		They're talking about wanting to have adult relations with him.
		And they're cheering for him.
		But the guy's a moron.
		Now, look, I completely disagree with, I don't know, like murdering a dad in cold blood in the middle of the street.
		I just think that's wrong.
		Forgive me.
		The left seems to be for it.
		But when you actually read the guy's manifesto, I was dumbfounded at how stupid he is.
		And again, I'm stressed.
		I want to stress.
		I'm not saying that it'd be motion.
		I am not saying that because I disagree with him and I think he's a bad guy.
		No, I think he's a bad guy and I think he's, you know, I disagree with his political views.
		But holy crap, his manifesto articulates nothing.
		He correlates things that don't make sense and then literally says, I can't articulate this.
		Other people will have to.
		And it's like, so you're a crazy moron.
		I think it's important people know this so we can mock these leftists who would cheer for someone this dumb.
		The Post One Hill says, The parasites had it coming.
		He references the American healthcare system comprised primarily of private insurance companies, saying that it is the most expensive in the world, but that American life expectancy is 42nd globally.
		This appears to be his reasoning for targeting the CEO, Brian Thompson.
		UnitedHealthcare is the largest private insurer in the U.S. He was denied bail.
		It goes on to basically read, like, of the whole manifesto.
		I don't want to read the whole thing outright, just because, well, I mean, maybe we should read...
unidentified		It's so short.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's really short, right, right.
		And I want to stress this.
		Normally, I don't want to be like, look at what he said!
		But I actually think we should read it because the guy's so dangerously stupid, he should be mocked, and anybody who supports him should be laughed at.
		So he says to the feds, I'll keep this short because I do respect what you do for our country.
		To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly I wasn't working with anyone.
		It was fairly trivial.
		Some elementary social engineering, basic CAD, a lot of patience.
		The spiral notebook.
		If present has some straggling notes and to-do lists.
		That's the ultimate gist of it.
		He says his tech is pretty much locked down, blah, blah, blah.
		He goes on to say the U.S. is the number one most expensive health care system in the world, yet we rank roughly 42nd in life expectancy.
		Now, I want to pause there and just say that right there is where you're like, wow, he's really dumb.
		Those things don't correlate.
		OK, the issue with our life expectancy has a lot to do with everything RFK Jr. has been saying.
		When you go to a Chinese food restaurant, this is one example, okay?
		And you say, I would like Chinese food.
		Actually, how many of you guys watch Tulsa King?
		You watch Tulsa King?
		So you know that scene where Ming, I think his name was?
		He's like, I came here as a young child.
		He's Chinese.
		And he goes, I work in a Chinese food restaurant.
		I don't recognize it.
		Yeah.
		Deep-fried chicken balls soaked in sugar syrup.
		This is what people eat on a regular basis.
		So the problem he's seeing is that America has a sick culture with mass-produced garbage food and chemicals, and then he blames our healthcare industry on it.
		Perhaps the reason the healthcare industry is so expensive is because Americans are morbidly obese, sick, don't exercise and eat garbage.
		So he really doesn't understand.
		And from that lack of understanding, because he's a really dumb guy, he killed somebody.
		Here's my favorite part.
		He says, but many have illuminated the corruption and greed, e.g.
		Rosenthal and Moore, decades ago, and the problems simply remain.
		It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play.
		Let me read the sentence before he says, obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly, I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument.
unidentified		He's honest there, I guess.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So this is just, it sounds like the story of a dude who left his parents' house.
		They say he's Ivy League, he's valedictorian.
		I'm like, yeah, he's institutionalized.
		He spent all of his years in institutionalized learning facilities, got out, allegedly did a bunch of psychoactive drugs, and then said, you know what, I can't actually make the argument, I don't know, but someone has to do something, and then kills a random guy unrelated to whatever his problem is.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's...
		I mean, there's a lot of talk about his back issues.
		So he got a back injury.
		He's alleged to have had a back injury.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Reportedly had it his whole life.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a disorder where his lower spine was misaligned, causing a slipped disc.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's what they're reporting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then the back injury story was that he was at a surf retreat, and after wiping out, it exacerbated this existing condition, leaving him bedridden for a week.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But so...
unidentified		What's the grievance?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		The obvious logic that you would think the back injury leads to him being unable to enjoy life.
		I heard that he can't go out with girls.
		He can't perform sexually.
		It's too painful for him to try and have intercourse.
		So he blames the health insurance For a chronic back injury?
		And also the guy comes from Means.
		He went to an extremely expensive school.
		Why is paying for, you know, care such a problem?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That was it.
		He was an incel.
		He literally was.
		Because of his lower back issue, he couldn't, I guess, and this is what the reports are saying, and it's a bunch of, you know, hey, I know this guy, here's what happened.
		According to, like, Reddit posts and what they think in media, and these are rumors, maybe they're not true, according to roommates, His hips and lower back, he had a difficult time moving them without nerve pain.
		Anybody who's ever pinched a nerve knows you ain't moving if you've got a pinched nerve.
		And so because of this, apparently some guy said that he had talked to him directly.
		They were at a surf retreat.
		And Manjone said he was unable to be intimate with women because of the spinal issue.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's the literal definition of incel.
		Involuntary celibate.
		A lot of people sitting in their house eating too much pizza with zits and like, I can't get a woman.
		That's not really involuntary.
		That's making choices that lead you to a place where they're not interested in you.
		But this guy literally apparently could not perform.
unidentified		great degree of mental illness, maybe exacerbated by, I know you mentioned psychedelics, but I just wonder too, what all was he taking either officially or unofficially for this back pain?
unidentified		And it just seems like a muddled mind.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So he had a book list of some sort.
		I forget what it's a, I think it's a good reads.
		Yeah.
		And he, there was a bunch of books about psilocybin, um, and other, uh, hallucinogens or psychoactive drugs or whatever, which doesn't, you know, that's not a good thing if you're depressed, which it's, you know, again, these are all, this is all alleged to be, but if he's depressed because he has chronic massive this is all alleged to be, but if he's depressed because he has chronic massive back pain that inhibits his, that has degraded his quality you know, psilocybin or taking magic mushrooms probably isn't a great idea.
		But even still, to me, I'm...
		I'm still missing what the actual motivation to kill a health insurance CEO is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He read threads on Reddit.
		I'm not being funny.
		He read half-brained, crackhead arguments on Reddit where he literally says, we have the most expensive health care, but we are 42nd in life expectancy.
		And it's like, listen, listen.
		Healthcare and life expectancy are not necessarily the same thing.
		Getting a broken bone set isn't necessarily going to correlate directly to longevity, but he's not smart enough to understand that.
		So he's reading stupid garbage on the internet.
		Okay, look, this is akin to saying, leftists do this all the time, did you know there are more empty homes than homeless people?
		And then the response in their minds is, we could literally put a homeless person in an empty house.
		Problem solved.
		And it's just like, you know what happens if you put a homeless person in an empty house?
		Hey, Jordan Neely was given housing.
		Did you know that?
		After Jordan Neely got arrested the 50th time or whatever it was, after the arrest for punching the 6, 7-year-old woman in the face, reportedly he got treatment and housing.
		And two weeks later, he skipped and left.
		So you can't just put them in houses.
		But this is what they do.
		They can't actually look at causation.
		They can't look at nuance.
		He just read something dumb on the Internet and then decided to end someone's life.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And like if he was tripping, we were kind of talking before the show about if psychedelics are good or bad, just drugs in general and the whole conversation.
		Like you were saying, Phil, they're an enhancer.
		And from my experience, psychoactives enhance your mood.
		If your mood is terrible, they make it more terrible.
		And if it's good, they make it more good.
		So if this guy is seriously depressed and taking psychedelics, I can see him making crazy unattached associations and just out of anger and like grabbing at stupid...
unidentified		Yeah, it's like a disordered mind.
		It's like it reminds me of, you know, a beautiful mind or something and go in there and there's all this stuff on the wall.
		I don't know if we can read too much into this, but I do think, though, that the symbolism that it's taken on in our culture is interesting.
		And obviously, it's completely messed up that people are lionizing him as a hero.
		But I do think it points to an underlying frustration that a lot of people have with our health care system and how screwed up it is.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but this is something that I mentioned last night.
		The frustration with our healthcare system is actually a frustration with the government and with the way that our healthcare is structured.
		Well, the system, yes, but it's not the companies that are at fault.
		Why should your health insurance or why should your healthcare be attached to a job?
		Why can't you go to a doctor and say, hey, I don't have a job that...
		I don't have my health insurance through a job.
		I just want to go ahead and pay you for this because I want this service provided.
		You can't really do that because prices are not attached to...
		The purchaser doesn't actually see the prices because of the way that healthcare is.
		So it convolutes the market and you don't have the same kind of competition that you do in other markets.
		And so this is a complex topic that's actually fairly nuanced when it comes down to it, but because the left is still kind of ascendant when it comes to narrative building, the left has convinced simple people that it's a simple idea.
		Healthcare is desirable and good, and because there are people that make profit off of healthcare or in any way, they're the evil ones when someone dies because they don't get the healthcare.
		And it's not that simple.
		And to say that it's that simple, it causes people that are, like Tim says, dumb to do things that are aggressive and bad.
		I mean, it's just a bad deal.
		Anytime you allow the left to build the narrative around anything, it works in a very simple way.
		The people that don't get what they want are the oppressed, the people that have power are the oppressors, and the people that don't get what they want have the right to kill or steal from the people that do.
		That's it.
		It's the simple equation.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to this next story from the New York Post.
		Guys, Luigi Mangione, yeah, he's not a right-winger.
		He's not anti-war.
		He's a leftist.
		Okay?
		Accused CEO-murderer Luigi Mangione grins at hearing to fight extradition to New York after screaming outburst on the way in.
		Well, let me play the video for you over here from ABC News, and you can hear him rant.
		And what he said is leftist-coded language.
		So there's another story, and I want to stress, where they're saying that a friend of his says he was anti-woke.
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Spare me, dude.
unidentified		Listen.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so if you couldn't hear it, we have a transcription.
		They say it's completely out of touch and an insult to the intelligence of the American people and the lived experience.
		He likely wanted to say more after that, but lived experience is literal leftist-coded cult language.
unidentified		It's a dead giveaway, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Listen.
unidentified		It's like saying my truth.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
unidentified		So I read up there with that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Lived experience is such an esoteric phrase that if you went to any mall in this country and walked to someone and said, define lived experience, they would go, huh?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, you mean like life experience?
		What does that mean?
		But if you're in the cult, you know exactly what's being said.
		Okay?
		That is not something...
		Like, you have to be in the cult to understand.
unidentified		No right-winger is going to talk about lived experience.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, it's true.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What is your life like is the way I would ask a question like that.
		But I think they're more what that question means is your lived experience is how do you perceive the way you're being treated by your surroundings?
		How do you feel...
		Not necessarily wronged, but how do you feel...
		How do you feel you've been treated by your surroundings?
		It's different than, like, what's your life like?
		Like, what is your life like?
		What's your lived experience?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		How did you experience?
unidentified		It privileges their subjective experience.
		It basically stops any kind of objective conversation.
		Like, no, this is my lived experience.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, what's funny about this is this guy is like an Ivy Leaguer, right?
		And we're supposed to assume that he's a smart guy.
		And like, wow, he had the dream life.
		But I just want to express to people...
		Back in the day when university was unattainable, when it was very difficult and you had to be wealthy and these are longstanding institutions, yeah, the smartest people got to go to them for the most part.
		Now anyone who wants to take out massive five-figure loans can go to them just because – actually, what show was I watching?
		It was Tulsa King, I think.
		I just binged the whole thing.
		And I think he's talking to, Sylvester Stallone's talking to the kid, and he says, the point of a degree is so that you can prove to your boss that you'll sit down, shut up, and do as you're told for a long period of time.
		That's what a degree gets you.
		That's why they'll hire you.
unidentified		It's like a finishing school, in a way.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		This guy, I bet, had really good ability to memorize information.
		I don't know that he's actually the killer.
		It's still alleged.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Seemingly uninterested in actually looking for the information.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's like, I just can't put these things together, but these are the ideas I have learned.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And if he was a methodical killer, the way he did it was very planned and scripted and done.
unidentified		I probably thought he was, like, igniting a spark.
		I've seen some people comparing him to the Robert Palmer idea, you know, from Fight Club, which, you know, I love that movie, but it's a silly comparison.
		But yeah, I don't know.
		He probably thought...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Robert Paulson?
unidentified		Robert Paulson, that's right.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Don't be so much Fight Club.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not among a bunch of millennial men.
unidentified		Oh, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's only two.
unidentified		We're going to get stoned together.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So this guy, I think I would give him high intelligence, low wisdom, if I have to make him a D&D character.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think you're wrong.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's able to memorize.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		If he's valedictorian, he's obviously got memorization capability, but his ability to associate ideas is last.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There are people who are developmentally disabled who can remember every moment of their life, and they couldn't drive a car.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Right, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Actually, this is true, too.
		There are some people who are not developmentally disabled, but there's a phenomenon where they have perfect recall, and it's considered to be some kind of a disability because it actually is difficult to navigate the present.
		So there are people, you can go to them and say, September 17th, 2013, 5am.
		And they will literally tell you exactly what they were doing.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Fascinating.
		Fascinating.
		They call them savants.
		Savant was like a term they would use.
		Like they were terrible at a lot of things, but very good at that one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This guy doesn't seem smart in any respect.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, if he was valedictorian, he must have had memorization.
		And the way that murder was carried out was very methodical.
		But then he's found with the IDs.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, not very smart.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's not smart.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Unless, as some people are speculating, he was intending to get caught so that he could have these lived experience outbursts with the police.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Right.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The way he screamed and lived experience, I was like, that's the guy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I actually was thinking this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why was he sitting in McDonald's with a backpack full of all this stuff, right?
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		After the killing, there was a debate in the media as to whether or not it was a lover's tryst or related to ransomware or ideological.
		We don't know.
		And so if this dude, he's accused, he's not confirmed.
		But if he's ideologically driven, he's going, no, no, no, no, no.
		It should be obvious.
		It should be obvious why I did it.
		So he knew he had to get caught so that he could make sure the narrative was his political ideology.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think that's true.
		Even if it was a subconscious, but I think so.
		I think that's literally he wanted this narrative to get pushed.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, didn't he live in...
		When was the last place that we know that he lived?
		I thought it was in Honolulu, right?
		So, I mean, look, it's not easy to get to Hawaii.
		You need to get on a plane.
		And once the pictures got out, he was...
		It was unlikely that he would be able to make it through an airport, considering he got ID'd in a McDonald's.
		So maybe he didn't have anywhere to go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you see those pictures from McDonald's, though?
		He was wearing an orange beanie and a black poofy jacket.
		And I gotta be honest, I see a bunch of people on X saying, how did anyone recognize him as the shooter?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Eyebrows.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But he was wearing a brown beanie.
		He was wearing totally different clothes.
		And there's a photo of him from, like, decently close to him.
		And it's like, did someone walk up to him and snap a picture and call the cops?
unidentified		I don't know.
		I'm always amazed in these situations when people in the common world, in the real world, identify these people.
		Because even if I recognize someone or think I do, I'm still going to be like, eh, I'm probably wrong.
		But there are people who just, they see someone and they're like, I think that's the guy.
		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I will...
unidentified		Go ahead.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I will add, a lot of people come up to me and say, you know, you look like this guy Tim Pool.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They don't just say, hey, I'm a big fan.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They say, you look like this guy.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that happened to me a couple weeks ago.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You look like that guy on TimCast.
unidentified		I'm like, well, I am that guy on TimCast.
		Yeah, I would just assume that I'm getting it wrong, right?
		And so it's interesting to me how some people actually are just so sure.
		I recognize that guy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe it's this simple.
		We didn't hear all of the stories where the tips failed, right?
		So for all we know, in like, I don't know, Westchester, PA, somebody called the cop saying, I think I found the guy.
		And there's local cops not doing anything.
		And they say, we'll drive down and take a look.
		They drive up and they see some random guy and they go, that's just a random guy.
		If that happens 10,000 times, no one's going to hear about it.
		But the one time it does, they got him.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		This guy has this stark face, too.
		He has a really, really kind of standout face.
		If he didn't want to get caught, he should have shaved his eyebrows, I guess, in retrospect.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the eyebrows were definitely a distinguishing feature on him, or a distinctive feature.
		I don't know.
		I mean, I don't know.
		I'm not the kind of person that sits there and is looking around.
		Who's this guy?
		Who's that?
		Does that blah, blah, blah.
		So I probably wouldn't have been like, yo, that's the dude.
		Because, again, thick eyebrows is real tough to be like, that's the guy, you know?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I just, I wonder why it is we found out this guy's literal life story.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We know about every drug he's taken, every book he's read, his opinions on the Unabomber, and we've learned nothing of Trump's assassin.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Attempted assassin.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Failed assassin.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sorry, failed assassin.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Talking about Thomas Crooks?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Nobody knows anything about him.
		He just showed up one day and slipped through like a doily snake, made it to the top of that building that nobody was on top of for some reason.
		And this guy, it's like, within a couple days, it's like, we can tell you how many, like, zits he's had.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, this is like that underwater submersible implosion, taking the world's attention by storm, where everyone's interested in finding this.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What drugs has he taken?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Was that guy Stockton Rush?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Was that his name?
unidentified		I don't know.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The owner of the submersible?
unidentified		I don't know.
		I mean, you don't really think that it's a conspiracy in this case, though, right?
		No, no.
		But I understand the frustration that people feel about the way that the Trump assassination attempt just sort of slipped away from...
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, in secret service?
unidentified		No, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What I'm saying is, I'm not saying there's a conspiracy to cover anything up.
		I don't know.
		I certainly think the official narrative on the Trump assassination is complete nonsense.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Attempt.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Attempt at assassination.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Attempt.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sorry.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It must manifest that the attempt failed.
unidentified		Yeah, the attempt.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It failed.
		But there's a lot of people who are saying this is a psyop because when they first released the person of interest photos, I'm like, that's not the same guy.
		You look at the picture of the video of the assassination of the CEO. That was weird.
		The picture of the CEO. And it looks like he has a little heavier set and he seems to have thinner eyebrows and appears to be older, but who knows?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Because the camera was above.
		I heard you say that and it didn't make sense.
		He did look heavier, but it might have been the angle of the camera pointing down at him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's two different camera angles.
		And his jacket could be poofy because he's wearing a sweater.
		Who knows?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He had a bunch of gear on him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He could have had two jackets on because he wanted to pull one off and throw it away.
unidentified		I wouldn't read too much in that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So that's why I'm saying, like, at the time, I thought when they said, here's a photo of a person of interest, everybody said, that's the shooter.
		And I'm like, hold on there.
		This has happened before, where people rush to accuse a person of interest of being the shooter or the bomber.
		And I'm not going to name the specific incidents, but 10 years ago, there was a very, very serious incident where the wrong person was ID'd, and it caused a lot of problems.
		And I'm like, a person of interest could be a guy they saw on camera, give him a high five.
		And they're like, how does that person know him?
		We want to talk to him.
		But everybody just said it was the shooter.
		Well, now they're saying it was, so...
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You know, and I think you mentioned that the healthcare industry, the whole system is kind of busted up, like the whole pharmaceutical industry, the food and drug, food and drug, but the way that they'll create, you know, toxic chemicals in the food supply that will then poison people and then they feed them medicine and they profit off of both arms.
		Like, I don't think there's a silver bullet.
		I don't think that there is an immediate drastic solution like what this guy thought, that if this was the guy, killing a CEO is going to solve anything.
		That's why I support RFK in positions of power in the government, because I think it's a long...
		So we got into this in a long, slow way, and it's going to be a long, slow path out.
		I heard they're going to maybe ban Red 40 out of the...
		Red 3. Red 3. One of the red azo dyes out of the food supply, which is like, hey man, that's a step.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Honestly, I think the fastest way to do it is to limit the government's ability, or to limit the government's involvement.
		If you put healthcare, not health insurance, but if you put care on the market, if you make...
		If they said that the hospitals and doctors, they have to put their prices...
		Make their prices available for people to look at and make it possible for you to go from one doctor to another doctor and try out, see, hey, this doctor will do the procedure I want for cheaper.
		Unless you're dealing with something that's really, really bad or specialized, like cancer, when it comes to broken legs or broken bones, or if you need...
		You know, you need antibiotics because you got an infection, you got a cut that's infected or whatever.
		If you put that stuff on a market, you'll see the price of healthcare, that kind of healthcare, go down significantly really, really, really fast.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That'd be great.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But the fact of the matter, and you shouldn't need, you should not need insurance because you broke a bone.
unidentified		Well, I think one of the things that we could do a better job of really trying to foreground for people is just the sheer, massive, unnecessary amount of bureaucracy involved now.
		For instance, I know doctors who've been in the industry for decades, and they're counseling people, don't get into this industry because you're going to spend 90% of your time doing paperwork.
		90% of a doctor's time spent doing paperwork, and a lot of that is tied up with the government and government requirements.
		And so I think that these are things that should be foregrounded in any discussion.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		This is my exact point.
		And when it comes to the healthcare situation in the United States, this is probably where I am most libertarian.
		Because people, it's not a market at all.
		There's no competition.
unidentified		Right.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The insurance companies pay the doctors.
		The doctors put prices that are exorbitant because they can.
		I mean, you hear people talking about 50 bucks for two Tylenol when they were in, or whatever.
		These kind of things should not cost as much as they do.
		And if you had a market where there was competition, all of these things would drop significantly.
		I got LASIK in my eyes, like lasers shot in my eyes, like...
		13 years ago, in 2012. And it was very inexpensive considering the procedure then, and I imagine it's significantly less money now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is why people go to Mexico for healthcare.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		100%.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's nuts.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Everybody I know...
		Okay, not literally everybody.
		I have tons of friends who are just like, if you can take a ride down to Tijuana, you're going to get...
		Like, I was talking to Luke about it.
		Luke was saying, like, they do...
		What do they do?
		They do this thing where, to make the dental work heal faster, they will take your own blood, spin down, like, spin it to get the platelets, and then inject the platelets so that it...
		Heals real quick.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is that PRP? Platelet-rich plasma?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Something like that.
		It's like things they don't do in the U.S. they do down there for like a fraction of the price.
		It's wild.
		And it's about regulation.
		It's not that we can't do it.
		It's that they're over-regulated.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it is.
		I think the reason it's over-regulated is because they want to mitigate harm.
		They want to make sure that on the off chance of the 99 people to get the project, one of the people is going to be hurt.
		They're like, no, then you can't do the project.
unidentified		But like...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't agree.
		I think it's more like the government comes up to the doctor and says, hey, you know, maybe you give us a little piece of what you're doing and you come to us before you do it.
		And they're like, that's going to take me months.
		Well, we want a little taste.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It started because the government wanted to put controls on how much money people could be paid.
		So in response, companies started saying, well, we'll offer this benefit package.
		We'll pay for your health care.
		We'll pay for this.
		We'll pay for that.
		So when the government stepped in and said, you can't pay these people more than this because this job is only worth this much, etc., then the companies had to come up with other ways to attract the best workers.
		So the way that they did it was they came up with benefit packages.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And people don't know this.
		I think everybody should know this.
		I, as an employer, cannot legally hire a janitor and pay him six figures.
unidentified		You can't?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I cannot do it!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is it like tax fraud or something?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		You are required to write out what the job position is and the rate must be marked.
		There's a range.
		And if you're overpaying, you're going to get audited.
		Now, depending on the size of the company.
unidentified		Are you serious?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, people don't know this stuff.
		So I remember when we first started this company, I was like, hey, I want to buy my mom a house.
		My mom deserves a house.
		And I have a successful show.
		And they said, well, you can't do that.
		I was like, what do you mean I can't?
		Why can't I? I was like, I got money now, right?
		I could buy a house, take a loan, and pay the down payment.
		I'm like, no.
		No?
		And they're like, no, that would be an illegal gift.
		To a family?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		How crazy!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now, there are certain things you can file.
		Up to $15,000 this year, you can gift somebody, and you don't need to do anything.
		Beyond that, you have to file for a gift for the year, and then there's taxes that have to be taken out of it.
		So you can transfer money, but that's huge taxes.
		I said, okay, so what if I buy the house, then what taxes?
		And they're like, okay, well, then your mom would have to pay income tax on the house.
		So if the house costs $200,000, she owes 27%.
		Can I pay that?
		And then there's this diminishing return where it's like, yes, you can pay the taxes, but still more income.
		So it's a diminishing, it's like basically overpay to stop it from happening.
		So there are ways you can do it, but it's overly complicated.
		So I was talking to him and I said...
		Can I hire my mom for a job?
		And he goes, it has to be a real job.
		And I was like, yeah, she could do something.
		And he was like, if you pay anyone above markets, they have to have a position with a job description.
		And it has to be, you have to be able to prove upon audit they do that job.
		Because understand, there are lots of wealthy people that would love to hire a family member for a ridiculous salary, so they could funnel money to another company, to a family, to a friend, or whatever.
		And so that's why these laws exist.
		So let me just stress it one more time. - Phil, 100% correct.
		We have a list of every employee here Their job title is a legitimate title that is recognized by the government, and it has to fit the parameters of what people get paid.
		If we go above that, we risk getting audited and accused of trying to skip on taxes.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So this is why these CEOs will have salaries, I'm actually asking, of like, you know, meager means, $600,000 a year, whatever.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		ASOS gets $83,000 a month.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And then his benefits are...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I believe Bezos gets 83,000 a month.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's kind of a rule of Hunter Biden.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		His salary is $1 million a year.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Okay, that's like what Hunter was getting at Burisma, I think.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		86?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		83,000 a month or something.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		83. Don't want to mix him up with Hunter Biden's payments from Burisma.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But that's because I think it comes down to a million a year.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So then the benefits is where, and then companies get creative with benefits, and that's how they funnel wealth into their employment?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So one common practice is, okay, so this job is, you're a software engineer, you make $120,000 a year, you can get paid more.
		You can say, this person's getting $150,000, the market rate is $120,000, that's reasonable.
		And you can arguably say, well, this is the best engineer in the world, we're paying him double, and that's still technically reasonable.
		What they end up doing is they'll say, okay, we're going to hire you at 120 market rate.
		We're going to give you another 120 in CDs to be paid out, half at this point, half at this point, so it doesn't appear as income, and you'll pay taxes in the year after your contract expires.
		So they'll say, a three-year contract to complete the project.
		Once the project is over, you're going to have a CD that you can then cash out so for that year you'll receive capital gains income or whatever and it will be taxed at a different rate.
		There's a whole bunch of ways powerful and wealthy individuals navigate the tax system that people don't understand.
		But I just want to say this one more time.
		The government doesn't let you give money to anybody you want.
		The government doesn't let you hire anybody you want.
		And so what Phil's saying is companies then say, okay, we'll pay for your health insurance.
		We'll pay.
		And now we've created this ridiculous system that's very weird.
		And it's like, break a bone.
		I hope you have a job.
		And it's like, no, no, no, hold on.
		You should be able to pay for it.
		So you probably need a job in the first place.
		But why is it that when you get hired, your employer has to give you health insurance?
		That's just the weirdest thing ever.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And it all started because of government intervention.
		And the government shouldn't have, the government has no right to do this, but a large part of the justification, just like Tim said, is because of taxes.
		It's because the government will say, well, you're doing this so that way you can evade taxes.
		So the income tax, which is, I mean, I find that to be terrible policy anyways, It is used to control people in ways that most people don't even think about.
		The income tax is why the dollar has value, which we've talked about before.
		before, the fact that the income tax is required to be paid in U.S. dollars, that's what allowed them to take the backing of gold and silver away.
		It used to be the gold and silver backed the dollar and that's what gave it value.
		But now because of the income tax, they've created what they call modern monetary theory where taxation is what gives the dollar value because there's always going to be a demand for dollars.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's another great comment from a healthy user.
		Tim's employees should be 1099 contracts so he can pay them whatever they want.
		Also illegal.
		That's called permalancing.
		And it's a very serious crime.
		You're not allowed to do that.
		And so when we talk to people, you know, I hear these comments on, you know, I went to go work for, I got a contract offer from Insert Media Company, and they wanted to own everything I had.
		And I'm like, yeah, that's like a legal requirement.
		Like, blame the government for all of this.
		Stop blaming corporations for doing what the government is forcing them to do and start blaming the government.
		And then we can get Thomas Massey and Rand Paul.
		We can get Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy.
		And they can start ripping into shreds the bureaucracy, firing people who shouldn't be there, and figure out why things are regulated in such ridiculous ways.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you want...
		I mean, I can see why you would want to protect...
		Okay, so a corporate guy, he's like, I sell a product.
		I make $100 billion a year.
		I want to give $50 billion of it to my brother.
		And we'll just say that's his salary.
		I see why the government...
		Someone's got to be like, hold on there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why?
unidentified		Why?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I don't know.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I guess because it can be abused.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A father works his hands to the bone.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Literally, his fingertips are gone and it's just bones sticking out.
unidentified		And he's like, I am an old man and I have made $50 million so I can give to my children.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		children and the government goes no we get half first we're going to tax it at 30 37 percent you're going to pay on average uh look if a wealthy person is playing their cards right with a tax lawyer and an accountant then depending on where they're making their money if it's income it's going to be 37 percent then you got property taxes and everything else if they're playing loopholes with capital gains they can make a lot of money doing other things but let's just say someone does physical labor To the point where they made $50 million.
		They get taxed at 37% on everything above, I think it's like $270,000.
		It might be like $360,000 right now if he's married.
		So the majority of it is taxed at basically more than a third.
		Then when he dies, they get another half of that.
		Why can't someone just give their family member money having earned it if they choose?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Or their friend.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Like, why does it have to stop at family?
unidentified		I mean...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So they all...
		What they do is they either create limited liability corporations where they start a company with a family member and then say, I'm investing a billion dollars into this company, of which my son is a 50% shareholder.
		Then when they...
		So remember when Mark Zuckerberg announced he was giving away all his money?
		And everybody clapped and they were like, wow, he's giving away his money.
		I could be wrong about this.
		You can fact check me.
unidentified		I always think those pledges are crocs of...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you give your money to a corporation, so you give all your money, and then it's basically protected from...
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Like a trust.
		That's where trusts are.
		You put money in a trust, and then later on it pays you back.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is kind of wild.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It would be like a family trust or something.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There are trusts out of Delaware where you basically don't pay any taxes.
		And so the argument is, I could be totally wrong about this because I don't do it, but I had talked to a tax lawyer and he's like, here's what you do.
		You get a specific kind of trust out of Delaware.
		It costs $5,000 a year to maintain with the state.
		All of your money goes into this trust, and the trust acts as the legal entity that does the financial dealings.
		A trust is not an entity that can be taxed.
		So if it makes capital gains, it doesn't get taxed itself.
		Then when you pull the money out, you get taxed on it.
		But it basically avoids double taxation, and it allows you to make capital gains without in the immediate, the trust is just being replenished and you're getting wealthier.
unidentified		So there's all these, there's loopholes.
		I think that, I think that there's a real disconnect between a lot of the underlying government causes of a lot of these frustrations and problems that people have and people's awareness of it.
		And you know, we're talking about Taylor Lorenz last night and her laughable comments.
		And I think that, you know, there's so many people actually like her out there who have some vague sense that there's something wrong with our healthcare system.
		And it's just easier.
		And more symbolically satisfying to blame it on the CEOs of insurance companies than to actually get into the muck of really dissecting what's going on here with this, a lot of it having to do with government interference and regulation.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I do think the government has a role, and that's the government being an arm of the people, the people coming together socially and being like, we're going to ban certain products from sale in our country, like poison.
		Certain poisons that are very profitable and addictive to the human body may be like...
		I don't know, azo dyes in general.
		I don't know how addictive they are, but like petroleum-based food coloring apparently causes hypertension or can lead to hypertension in children and humans, which can cause inflammation.
		So like, maybe we could ban that stuff like RFKs.
unidentified		When you look at the US versus Europe, you know, there's a joke among people who...
		Have ever traveled to Europe that you feel so much better after you've been away from this place and the food that we eat for a while.
		And that's because actually, you know, if you go to Europe, a lot of the time you're getting food more or less sort of straight from the source, you know, straight from the source, American gangster reference there.
		But you are more or less.
		The fish was caught right over here or what have you.
		And over here, it seems like there's so many more processes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That does exist if you're wealthy.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So for the average poor American, you're basically being forced to eat garbage.
		And I say forced lightly.
		Right.
		You go to the grocery store, you make a choice, okay?
		And I was telling this story a couple weeks ago.
		Allison and I went to the grocery store, and I love getting little cottage cheeses.
		It's very healthy.
		It's keto-friendly, they call it.
		And Allison grabbed a pack of this, I don't know what the company is, and I looked at the ingredients, and it's got a bunch of weird garbage in it.
		It's got emulsifiers and stuff.
		Daisy, which does the sour cream and the cottage cheese, their ingredients, it's like skim milk cream salt.
		And I'm like, okay, I'm going to buy that.
		So for a lot of people, they're eating Kraft macaroni and cheese, they're eating these off-the-shelf products with tartrazine and red dye three and those other things, because it's cheap.
		They're not getting proper nutrition.
		They're not getting proper diets.
		They're getting morbidly obese.
		They're getting chronic illness.
		RFK Jr. is right.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And it sort of is an extrapolation of the lion diet that Michaela Peterson talks a lot about, which ultimately, from what she's explained, it's just all meat.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Whatever a lion would eat, that's what she eats.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Iena.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Beef, and like, et cetera.
		and salt.
		But then what's really happening is it's an elimination diet, all All the stuff you don't eat, all the stuff you've taken out of your diet, I think that's what the government should be doing, is providing a sort of elimination diet now for our populace.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is a big trend among millennials.
		Like, soda consumption is massively down.
		And that's why there's these commercials popping up where it's the Coalition of Soda Drinks of America.
		Did you know that we have low sugar options?
		And then there's like a guy in a white lab coat and they like show all these things.
		And I'm like, I have here a Spindrift.
		They do not sponsor the show, but I will shout them out.
		Why?
		Ingredients, carbonated water, grapefruit juice, orange juice, lemon juice, hibiscus.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I love it so much.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's awesome.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The pineapple, I'm going to, this is, I'm like shooting myself in the foot with this.
		The pineapple spin drift is so good.
		And I tell people that on stream and then it sells out.
		And it's so frustrating because I get it on Amazon and then it's like six bucks for 12 of them or for eight of them.
		And then they're sold out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is what soda should be.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But I want to spread the wealth.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's got four carbs, three of it is sugars, and there's no sugar added.
		It's just sparkling water with a little fruit juice.
		I don't want to drink a bottle of syrup, okay?
		But there are a lot of people who go to the store, they pick up a Coca-Cola, Pepsi, whatever it is, get their high fructose corn syrup.
		Maybe they can't afford the spin drifts.
		I don't know.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They don't know they exist.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think a lot of people, it's still kind of...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're going to make America healthy again.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we are.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So help us!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We will do it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You gotta be careful with that stuff when you do.
		That stuff will rip your teeth up, though.
		I was drinking a lot of Spindrift that put holes in my enamel.
		I don't know if I can blame solely.
		Yeah, I think it's the carbonation itself.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, it's the acid.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But soda will do worse.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Fruit juice has a lot of acid in it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Lemon will do worse.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, for sure.
		Soda's a million times.
		I mean, I don't know how many times worse, but all that sugar.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You got a raspberry lime over there.
		Spindrift is the best.
		Okay.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And you can add juice to it, too.
		Like a really good organic peach juice.
		I pour a little bit into my Spindrift.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I go to a restaurant, I say, give me a club soda with some lemon.
		That's what I drink.
		So when I saw Spindrift, which is basically a club soda with lemon, I'm like, then we got all the flavors now.
		I'm a big fan, okay?
		Not a sponsor or anything like that, but it's just a great product.
		Let's jump to this story from the Postmillennial.
		Trump team preps executive order to end birthright citizenship on day one.
		Based.
		What say you, panel?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think that if...
		Say based.
		I have a feeling that it's going to go to the Supreme Court.
		I have a feeling there's going to be challenges and then it's going to go to the Supreme Court, which is a good thing because then the Supreme Court can actually rule on whether or not there should be anchor babies or not.
		Because...
		So conceptually, I think most Americans, and I can't say everyone, but I think most Americans are against the idea of if you can get pregnant and then get to America when you're nine months pregnant, no one's going to send you away because you're nine months pregnant and oh look the poor pregnant lady have a baby and then you can just stay because you got here.
		That's a bad precedent to happen.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me pull up the 14th Amendment so I can break this down for everybody and the leftists can whinge.
		Section 1 of the 14th Amendment says all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and the state wherein they reside.
		What does that sentence mean?
		Anybody?
		Want to click at it?
		What was the intent of that sentence?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, initially it was to make sure that black slaves were considered...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They were literally saying, of the adult population in this country that was born here and subject to our jurisdiction, we hereby say you are citizens.
		That was the point of the 14th Amendment.
		It was not to say, at some point when a person from Germany shows up and has a baby, that baby under our jurisdiction will be a citizen.
		Right.
		It seems like this was grossly misinterpreted.
		The whole thing is quite little about the Civil War.
		Section 3, no person shall be a senator or representative of Congress having waged insurrection, blah, blah, blah.
		The validity of public debt by the U.S. authorized incurred during payment of pensions and bounties and services suppressing insurrection.
		It's literally the Civil War.
		They're literally saying, hey, there's a 20-year-old black man who was born here, and we have jurisdiction over him.
		You're a citizen.
		That was it.
		It was the end of slavery.
		And it's turned into somehow that a Guatemalan family can illegally enter the country by crossing a border and then within a few months give birth and that baby is now a permanent citizen.
		Think about how stupid that sounds.
		A woman from China.
		Flies at eight months pregnant, seven months, and stays on a three-month visa, gives birth to the United States, flies home.
		That kid is raised for 30 years in China, but has U.S. citizenship the whole time.
unidentified		Clearly not what was intended.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now, I know the founding fathers didn't intend for people flying around on anything, because they certainly didn't comprehend how that would happen.
		Maybe hot air balloons.
		Yeah, they did.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Ben Franklin got it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They had air balloons, and they used them for warfare.
		But the idea that someone from a foreign country would come here, have a kid, and then leave...
		And I'm sorry, I gotta clarify.
		Not the founding fathers, but the government at the time of the Civil War.
		They didn't intend for the British to come over, have kids, and be like, they're our citizens now.
		And they can be our president.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And take them back to Britain.
		Right.
		Yeah, that doesn't make sense.
		I think that they were also trying to grow the population for the first half of the country's existence, for the first two-thirds, up until the...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but they had like seven kids, dude.
unidentified		What?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Who did?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Women be cranking out babies.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they did.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look at the movie The Patriot with Mel Gibson.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Pumping them out.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What did he have?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Baby, baby, baby.
		Work the farm, kid.
		Get to work.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Make babies.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Maybe one day you'll have a farm of your own.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		People liked sex back then, too.
		They still do.
		Before birth control, kids were the result of sex.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And I hear the Sabbath, the Jewish Sabbath, is a lot about impregnating your wife every Saturday.
		It's like, put down the technology and have sex with your wife all day until she's pregnant.
		And then take nine months off, and then as soon as she's had the kid, do it again.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm in no position to make this.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I was told that by a hardcore Jewish man.
		So I don't know, maybe they were more lax about having new citizens before when they wrote this thing, but the idea that a British person could come over here, sneak into the country, well, ideally people weren't sneaking into the country, but have a kid and then take them back to Britain, educate them with the British ideology, but they're an American citizen is crazy.
		And I don't know why there's not a loophole in there for like, you've got to live here for 10 years or something.
unidentified		I just don't think they anticipated this entire matrix of travel, like he was saying, air travel, and also just the huge influx of immigration that we would end up having.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And they said, you can amend this Constitution.
		We're writing it for today, and you're supposed to change it over time when it makes sense for your community and your society.
		You have to change this thing.
		It's not a static document.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's a static document because it is a stringent process to change it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it's a static document that can be changed, and its order of stasis can be renewed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Donald Trump will issue an executive order on day one.
		The ACLU will have a seizure and vomit on themselves and file a lawsuit, and then it will quickly go to the Supreme Court as it is already a federal issue.
		And the Supreme Court will – I think they'll agree with Trump.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I hope so, because I do think that the idea of, you know, anchor babies, someone just coming here and being like, oh, now me and my...
		Because, I mean, you get the whole, like, someone is born here, or you have a kid here, and then mom can stay to take care of the kid, and then because of that, they can start chain migration.
		It's a ridiculous...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look at what the left is saying.
		They're saying Trump's going to deport U.S. citizens.
		Yeah, children, because their parents are leaving.
		I say this.
		Donald Trump, here's the proposal.
		The proposal is, we're not going to deport any U.S. citizens.
		That three-year-old child can stay here as a ward of the state or can go with their parents back home.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And then when they're 18, they can come back to the U.S. The left wants family separation.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What can I say?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I don't have a problem with family separation.
unidentified		Do you guys think that Trump is going to come through really hardcore with the immigration stuff?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if he's talking about doing it on day one...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's a bold statement to say on day one he's going to do this stuff.
		Because day one is two months?
		Not even!
		Really, in a month and 10 days?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I can't wait to see what happens.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I do have a policy preference that I want to see, but I really want to see what happens when Donald Trump is actually the president again and is actually starting to influence policy, making executive orders, and pressuring Congress to do things and pass legislation that he can sign.
unidentified		If he was to do this executive order thing, what would that look like?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, he said, I don't know, I don't think that it's been fleshed out, but there are people, even if he didn't tell people on his staff that this was his intent before he said this on the show, you know, as soon as they heard him say that, they're like, alright, well, we gotta start writing.
		Because that's exactly what happened when he made an offhanded remark about silencers when there was a shooting used with a silencer.
		He was like, yeah, someone said, don't you think these should be illegal?
		And he's like, well, we'll look into it.
		Even though he didn't actually specifically tell any when he said it in an interview, people heard that, people on his staff heard that, like, all right, we've got to start coming up with some kind of framework for how that'll work, etc., etc.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So this is like he's saying he's going to make an executive order that will override the Constitution?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's going to issue an executive order that says the Constitution of the Fourth Amendment must be enforced as it's written.
		That is to say, if you are born in this country and subject to its jurisdiction, you're a citizen.
		Guess what?
		If two people who are not of the United States come here and have a child, that child is not subject to its jurisdiction.
		It's subject to the jurisdiction of the citizenship of the families.
		Yes.
		Let's put it this way.
		If two people came here from China and gave birth to a child, and then the U.S. tried taking that child, saying it's ours, what do you think China's gonna do?
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're gonna be like, no you're not.
unidentified		Right.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It honestly is fairly simple.
		Like Tim said, if they're subject to its jurisdiction, the words in these amendments matter.
		The idea that you can just interpret around the intent and purpose of an amendment, that's...
		That's constructing law from the bench.
		And that's something that the judiciary is not supposed to do.
		The judiciary is not supposed to write law.
		At the most, they're supposed to interpret law, but they're definitely not supposed to create law.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm starting to see this, actually, the legitimacy of what you guys are talking about, that...
		I'm just going to reiterate what's been said in people in the chat like, he's so just doing that.
		Anyway, people come over here illegally.
		They're here illegally.
		They have a kid on the soil while they're illegally here.
		The kid isn't necessarily subject to the jurisdiction of the state.
unidentified		Correct.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Because they were here born of illegal people that are here illegally.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But why would a child be subject to our jurisdiction simply for being born here, right?
		Let's say a family from Mexico visits the United States as tourists and they bring their seven-year-old kid.
		None of them are subject to our jurisdiction.
		We have certain jurisdictions where we can say we're deporting you, but they're subject to the jurisdiction of Mexico as Mexican nationals.
		And we have a treaty by which we respect them and we allow them here on certain terms.
		So the argument they're making is that, oh, but if you're in our jurisdiction, we can arrest you.
		And it's like, yes, but we can't imprison you because it creates an international crisis where that country then makes demands over their citizens who they have jurisdiction over.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		A lot of times if someone from another country breaks the law, we'll arrest them and then just ship them out of here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's not our jurisdiction.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You are here in our country, committed a crime, and we're sending you home.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What does it mean to be subject to the jurisdiction of what I'm looking up right now?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The principle argument is that when this was written, it was referring to slaves of the United States who were born here and have no other country to call home.
		They were under the jurisdiction of the U.S. government where slave patrols could capture them if they tried to escape.
		After the Civil War, they said, if you were born here and subject to our jurisdiction, you're a citizen.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		This says United States v.
		Wong Kim Ark 169 U.S. 649. In 1898, the Supreme Court wrote that subject to the jurisdiction would appear to have been to exclude by the fewest and fittest words besides children of members of the Indian tribes.
		Children?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Can you articulate that one more time?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So it's supposed to be subject to the jurisdiction.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It appears to have excluded children of members of Indian tribes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So here's a super chat from Amos Moses says, Before the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, Indians born in the U.S. were not citizens because they were not subject to the U.S. jurisdiction.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They had treaties.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They have their own land.
		Still to this day, on native land, there are certain federal regulations based on treaties, but this is what actually created casinos.
		They were arguing that they were not to be regulated by the state, and the states were like, yeah, right, and they were like, try me, dude.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Technically, that's why you hear about the Cherokee Nation.
		They're considered a nation of their own.
		They're considered separate from the United States of America.
		And because of that, they're not subject to the jurisdiction.
		There are...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of wild, right, to imagine being like 1890 and you literally just walk into town and go, I'm a citizen.
		How would they know?
		What are they going to do?
		I mean, there's birth records and stuff.
		Would you be like, oh, yeah, but I'm from California?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it was assumed everybody was a citizen if you were in America because it was hard to get here.
		It was the late 1800s.
		The ships took a long time to get across the ocean.
		So it wasn't impossible, but it was much harder than it is today where, you know, if you have a thousand dollars or a couple thousand dollars, you can get across the ocean and get an escort all the way through South America up to the border.
unidentified		I mean, there was still resentment, you know, even a hundred years ago or so of immigrants.
		But it was definitely, I mean, the accessibility now and the ease with which people can...
		Can break these rules.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And they can get rid of their accent by watching American English TV from the age of one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, dude, I knew a guy who lived in Turkey who learned English by watching Family Guy.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Because before, they probably always would have an accent.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		If they came over on a boat, you'd know because they had a crazy Irish accent or something.
unidentified		They talked like this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm kidding, he didn't.
unidentified		But we have, you know, Trump has the White House, and the Republicans have both houses, and the Supreme Court is pretty stacked, so there should be no issue then, right, with him implementing...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, now Trump can arrest every single Democratic voter in the country and send them to Europe.
		Let's jump to the story for the nation.
		President Biden should issue a blanket pardon of undocumented immigrants.
		I'm not going to read a stupid argument.
		Basically, the nation is arguing that Biden should basically say all illegal immigrants are hereby pardoned for the crime of entering the country and Trump can't deport you.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, you could still I don't know the details of what's in this stupid piece by the nation, which is basically a communist rag.
		But the idea that just because you're pardoned, Just because you're pardoned doesn't mean that you become a citizen.
		So maybe the pardon will say, okay, you're not subject to punishment, but that doesn't mean we can't still wrap you up and send you back home.
		At least I don't understand why it would mean that they're automatically naturalized.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You could pardon them for the crime of entering the country, but that doesn't mean that them being here isn't still a crime.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, not only that, but even if they say, okay, this isn't a crime, you being here, but you can say you aren't a citizen, so you need to go back to where you're from.
		We're not going to put you into the...
		You're not going to have to...
		Be punished for it.
		You're not going to have to go to jail or anything or pay any fines, but we can still remove you and send you home.
unidentified		I'm just amazed at how tone-deaf, how persistently tone-deaf these kinds of writers, these kinds of articles are.
		To not be able to read the room better, I mean, the place that we're at as a nation now is I think that immigration, undocumented, illegal immigration, it has reached a level that almost everyone agrees it's a problem.
		I don't think, I mean, this is just this kind of, this attitude is so outdated and so it's just interesting after this election to see this still being promoted.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It was like 70% of Americans were comfortable with not just closing the border or building the wall or whatever.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It was 70% of Americans were okay with rounding up illegals and sending them home.
unidentified		And many more Latinos, for example, than the left would, than the left evidently expected.
		And I, and you know, I'm from Texas and I interact all the time with people from Latino heritage and they, and so many of them are fed up with undocumented illegal immigration themselves.
		So many of them voted Trump.
		And they say, really, it's insulting for people to assume that just because I'm from this particular heritage that I don't believe in doing things in a proper law-abiding way.
		And here's the thing, too.
		A lot of people, once they make it to America, they want to shut the door behind them because they understand that if you let too many people in, then it's not going to be the place they were wanting to immigrate to in the first place.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And another thing that I just want to point out is the idea that all Latinos are the same, that is only acceptable to white people.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's so racist.
		Racist people.
		Many of them happen to be white.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure if it's intended to be racist, but it's definitely ignorant.
		You know, if you tell a Puerto Rican and a Mexican, you guys are basically the same, right?
		They're going to kill you.
		They're going to berate you.
		They're going to yell at you.
		They're going to call you all kinds of names.
		They're going to make fun of you.
		That is absolutely not true.
		So the way that the left just...
		You know, throws everybody into a pot so that way they can use them as a tool against the right.
		And that's the only reason they do it.
unidentified		Well, it's the same thing with voter ID and the idea that black people can't obtain identification or can't use the internet.
unidentified		It's so racist.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The term POC was such a racist person of color.
		Like, your skin is a little different color.
		Let's put you in a box with a bunch of other people with similar chains.
		Skins don't match mine.
unidentified		You don't know how to get ID. You're too stupid or you're too non-savvy about basic internet technology and government procedures to get an ID. So insulting.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		How racist people can become in the attempt to be non-racist.
unidentified		In the attempt to project non-racism.
unidentified		Yeah, exactly.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We're going to hold up all these other people's skin colors' abilities to do...
		It's just such a...
		I don't know, man.
		Morgan Freeman had it right.
		I'm a man, you're a man.
		That's how we defeat racism.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's a liberal principle.
		That's the whole idea is to look at people as if they're people.
		But the left doesn't want to do that because, as I've said multiple times on this show, happy people don't revolt.
		So they use race as a way to make people think that they have something to be angry at other people about.
		They do what they can to incite racial grievance, and that's part of why race has been such a hot topic the past 10 to 15 years.
		It's intentional because the left uses that to get power.
		They use race as a way to get power.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And as many people have been pointing out over the past couple of weeks, like Arne McIntyre is making this point, The Civil Rights Act has basically – was the first domino to fall over in what created racial grievance and identitarian grievance.
		And I don't think they're completely wrong.
		I don't know that I completely agree 100 percent because I do believe that just because we say, hey man, like – Let's be reasonable.
		Don't tell someone they can't shop at your store because they're black or they're Mexican or whatever.
		We can set limits.
		But the end result basically turns into everybody will file lawsuits citing that precedent and simply saying, because of my insert immutable characteristic, I am protected and you can't do these things to me.
		So the Civil Rights Act has basically created the circumstance where everybody now wants to justify why they are an aggrieved class, a victim.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you end up with now gender identity.
		And the Supreme Court ruling that, yep, if you're trans, you're protected under the Civil Rights Act.
		And it's like, okay, well, now there's no line anymore because gender identity is not defined anywhere.
		So we know what it means to be white or not white for the most part.
		Because the loss is race.
		So if a guy comes in...
		And he's got, he might be white, he might be black, I don't know, maybe a parent or grandparent in there.
		And the guy says, you look like a person of a different race, so get out.
		Okay, we can't do that.
		But now what's happening with the gender identity stuff is they're basically saying, like, men can have beards and women can have beards.
		And men might wear dresses and women might wear suits.
		Therefore, anyone can be anything at any time and they're gender fluid.
		Now that means basically everything is a protected class, no matter what.
		I think that may get overturned at the Supreme Court depending on what happens with that latest ruling on gender ideology, but we'll see.
		But the argument being made by a lot of the post-liberals, these are people who were liberal and now they're like, hey, wait a minute.
		The rules and the world that we put in place based on these ideas have resulted in rampant wokeness and grievances.
		What do you do to solve for it?
		I have no idea.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, you look at reality.
		I sounded like Dave Rubin there.
		You look at his accent.
		You look at it just plaintively without presumption, like having a large influx of foreigners illegally into your country can damage the stability of your country.
		I don't care about what race you are.
		I don't care about what color your skin was before you got here.
		I don't care about any of that.
		I more value the stability of our nation and our community.
unidentified		So...
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		If you look at it from the starting point of how do we stabilize the system, then I think pretty much, like you were saying, 70% of the people are like, yeah, yeah, you can't just barge through the border unaffiliated.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's too destabilizing for any country.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, look, the idea of assimilation was something that was obvious and basically universal for Americans.
unidentified		And it used to be celebrated, yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah, I mean, look at the early part of the 20th century, the people that came to America, the young people weren't allowed to speak the home country's language at home because they wanted to make sure the kids learned English and spoke English, and they all tried to become American.
		And nowadays, it's...
		It is more valuable to try to not become an American and be aggrieved.
		It used to be I want to become American so I can work hard and I can get ahead because I believe in America.
		And now it's I want to get to America so I can get on some kind of assistance because they'll give it to me because I'm XYZ identity.
		And that is a terrible policy.
		And it's going to bankrupt the country.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I blame the blasted...
		World Economic Forum for trying to disempower the United States' greatness and take control of these global liberal economic order banks, seeding poison into the minds of the American youth and the global youth.
		I've had enough of it.
		We're immune now.
		I'll keep going if you want me to.
unidentified		It's like almost a non-sequitur there.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think that's funny.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think this whole idea of like, I don't want to assimilate, I don't care to assimilate, has been seeded in.
		Like, I remember when you'd go sign up for a website and always, what country are you from?
		United States would be at the top.
		It was alphabetical, except United States was at the top.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now it's at the bottom.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes it is, but I've also seen it coming back and getting put at the top in the last four or five years.
		Why am I scrolling all the way down of every single country in the world to For a while, I was like, why is it not alphabetical?
		Why do I get...
		And then it was gone, and I was like, wow, we really are the least worst country out there.
		And now it's back, and I'm like, good.
		I'm down for some American supremacy, but in a good way.
		The ideology...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not all cultures are good.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Not militaristically.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I mean, maybe we need some protective essence on the planet, but I'm talking about the cultural benevolence of free speech and things like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think, you know, Ian had this rant where he said the U.S. military should go and bring constitutional republicanism to all countries of the planet, whether they want it or not.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Wait, the military?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You said that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure if I said military, did I? No, I wouldn't have said that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You said that you thought it was good that the military was trying to bring democracy...
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Hold on a second, you're making me sound like George Bush Jr. here.
unidentified		Ha!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bro, you literally said this and we were all shocked.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Pull up the tape, Serge.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I can't remember, like, Elad was like, my man!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He would have said that if I did today.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was like Afghanistan and you said we were bringing constitutional order that would guarantee free speech and certain rights to people around the world.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't think we can do it military.
		I don't think that imposing authority through force is the way anymore because the internet, you see it, you see through it, but the cultural...
		Like, awesomeness of the music and the television shows.
		The little kids that want to learn English from the age of one, that want to be a movie star, they want to go to Hollywood.
		Like, that stuff I love.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So let's jump to this story.
		This is breaking.
		Nancy Mace was physically assaulted.
		This is the report that we're getting right now.
		We don't have a lot of details.
		Nick's order says Nancy Mace was physically assaulted by a pro-trans man at the Capitol tonight.
		Does that mean it's a guy who supports transgender issues?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I bet anything that it was a trans...
unidentified		Well, let me keep reading.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It says, the left is insanely violent.
		He says, this has gone too far.
		Nancy Mason sending these degenerates a message.
		Your trans violence and threats on my life will only make me double down.
		She has a tweet where she says, I was physically accosted to not end Capitol grounds over my fight to protect women.
		Capitol police have arrested him.
		All of the violence and threats proving our point.
		Women deserve to be safe.
		Your threats will not stop my fight for women.
		So she said him.
		And knowing her position on the issue, this means it was a biological man who identified as a man, but was in support of trans issues.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, wow.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		A man that actually assaulted...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A leftist guy.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, which isn't a surprise.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Leftists are, you know, they're violent.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So here's my question for everybody here is, right now, Rudyard is at two of a thousand.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Rudyard, what a fault history, says by April, 1,000 people will have died with a political motivation domestically.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I hope he's wrong.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I certainly hope he's wrong, too, considering it's been a month since the election where he did predict Trump would win and then we would see 1,000 dead.
		Two people have died thus far on politically motivated grounds.
		It's the CEO, of course, and then someone tried to kill Marjorie Taylor Greene and in the circumstance ended up killing an innocent woman.
		Now, I know a lot of people are going to say, whoa, whoa, whoa, what happened?
		I know when I tell you the real story, you're going to say, ah, OK, she was swatted and the bomb squad rushing to her home to save her life crashed, killing an innocent woman who is driving and got hit.
		So that's collateral damage of leftist terrorism.
		But I do believe it is fair to say that someone made an attempt on the life of Marjorie Taylor Greene, and as the police rushed to save her, the killing of the innocent woman is her getting caught in the crossfire.
		So two of a thousand.
		Do you think we will see one thousand...
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I don't think we will.
		I'm hoping that Rudyard is wrong.
		I also don't think I would bet a lot of money on it, but I would bet a little money that Rudyard is wrong, that we don't see a thousand.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think he's wrong.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a handful more.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But, you know, the two attempts on Donald Trump's life, the CEO guy, you know, and that's, you know, this attack on Nancy Mace, which...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Nancy Mace, so she has another tweet.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She got hurt.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Did she actually get injured?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She has a knee brace and she has to ice her arm.
		Not like serious, but that's an injury, you know what I mean?
		It's pretty wild.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
		I was just arguing with the leftists about right-wing versus left-wing terrorism and violence and stuff.
		The left...
		There is always an argument that people make that say that the right is more violent than the left.
		And there's always statistics and stuff that they use.
		And I find the arguments not compelling.
		The people that correlate the data, I feel like they're biased.
		The ramblings of a racist...
		Who kills people because they're racist.
		That's not really political.
		That's racial.
		That's racial hate.
		I don't feel like it's political the same way that the person that attacked Nancy Mace is clearly political.
		And I mean, I know that there are people that are going to say, Oh, Phil, the data says, the data says, the data says, but there are extremely obvious and clear Examples of leftist violence that are obviously leftist.
		All of the riots during the Summer of Love, when the guy attacked the congressional baseball game and shot Steve Scalise, the attacks on Rand Paul.
		Rand Paul's been attacked himself three or four different times.
		One time when he was just walking down the street in, not the one at his house, but he was walking down the street in D.C., The shooters that were just trying to kill Trump, they both, neither of them, I don't care what anyone says, they weren't Trump supporters.
		That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I do got to read a super chat here real quick.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Sorry.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So Joseph says it's seven, not two.
		A woman killed her father.
		A woman killed herself and her kids.
		A woman killed her boyfriend because of the Trump election.
unidentified		Oh yeah, she killed her father, yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		God, that's crazy, the guy that killed his family.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What was that story?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So a guy killed his two kids and his wife.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Over the election?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Allegedly, that was the...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Actually, so it was more than seven.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, hold on.
unidentified		Wow.
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's—still, Rudyard thinks in the next five months— A thousand is high, though.
		A thousand people.
		He was—and a lot of people responded to me saying, dude, January 3rd, like the Congress comes in, January 6th, Trump wins, then the inauguration.
		January 21st, Trump signs, no birthright citizenship, begin the deportations.
		People are going to lose their minds.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		46-year-old Minnesota man Anthony Nephew killed his ex-wife, ex-partner, and two sons.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But why?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Before taking his own life.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What was the real?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Hold on one second.
		Duluth, let's see...
		No, it says the motive behind the killings is unclear.
		That's the AI, Braves' AI. Let's see.
		Let me see what they...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that woman in Seattle.
unidentified		The woman who killed her.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Minnesota dad who ranted against Trump election gunned down wife, ex-girlfriend, and two kids.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Over Trump election, you said?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Man who ranted against Trump election gunned down.
unidentified		Wow.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm still looking to see if I can find actual.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is the challenge, right?
		Because like, are we going to really play this game where it's like a guy who ranted at one point and then later for different reasons did a thing?
		No, no.
		The idea that Rudyard had that he was expressing was that the political tensions in this country would get so great that we would see people dying because of it.
		So a woman killing her father.
		Yes.
		She said, quote, something about the election.
		She muttered.
		And it was on election day.
		Well, I think she wanted the lights turned on or something.
		I can't remember what it was.
unidentified		Right, right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then she snapped and just killed her dad.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Insane.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so that one's like, I don't know.
		Man, I hope it's not the case.
		I hope Trump gets in.
		He won.
		It's a clean sweep.
		There's a popular mandate.
		I hope that he just gets the job done and they cry on the internet.
unidentified		I do feel like the anti-Trump hysteria really did peak, I think, in the last election, 2016, when Trump was elected.
		I feel like basically what's happened now up to this point is that people, even who didn't like Trump, they did realize that Okay, this guy, it turns out, is not Mussolini.
		He's not actually Hitler.
		He's not literally Hitler.
		And so, I don't know.
		I just think...
		Sorry, Matt.
		I mean, allergy attack tonight.
		I just think that people have wisened up to this, by and large.
		The media have not.
		You're still going to have the left-wing people freaking out on the media.
		But I think that most Americans, even on the left, have really wised up to the fact that Trump is not some terrifying figure.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they got a taste of what it was like to have Joe Biden as president, too, which was like, he's still...
		Is he our president?
		It's so weird that that old...
		I mean, I guess for the first year, I get it, but even that was like...
		People saw what they did with Kamala Harris.
		They're like, here's your candidate this year, ladies and gentlemen.
		They're like, where's the primary?
		A lot of people were just like, you know what?
		Donald Trump was elected.
		Donald Trump served as president.
		He didn't go crazy.
		He said some stuff I didn't like, but...
		I'm speaking for other people.
unidentified		His presidency was not the house of horrors that the left told us to expect.
		And so I think no matter what he does within reason in the next four years, I think people are just not going to freak out on that level.
		We're not going to see like the pink pussy hats and stuff like that.
		I just don't.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I was watching some old Apprentice videos.
		Those are pretty funny.
		Reminding myself who he is deep down in his heart.
		He's a great diplomat.
		That's the thing about him, his North Korean diplomacy, cooling tensions with North Korea, cooling tensions with Russia, cooling tensions with...
		I mean, the guy is just a super charismatic master diplomat.
		And that is a great upgrade from slowly Joe Biden.
		He's just like falling over at the wheel, exhausted.
		I mean, good Lord, that...
		And there wasn't another better option.
unidentified		Well, and you mentioned, you know, The Apprentice, and something that my husband is always saying is that people spent years, before Trump got into politics, they spent years being introduced to him through the television.
unidentified		And so there's a basic comfort level that a lot of Americans have that the media might not have, but a lot of Americans have known Trump for a long time, and they're cool with him.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You know, anybody listening that, even if you do or don't have issues with Trump, go back and watch old clips of The Apprentice and Trump in the boardroom, because the dude is just, he's cool, man.
		He's not evil.
		He's actually not evil.
		It turns out he's actually pretty good.
		He might actually be neutral, because he's like, look, sometimes the good people fail in business, and that's just the harsh reality of it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Donald Trump, you're saying?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's clearly lawful good.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You think he's a good...
		I think he's lawful neutral.
		I think he's lawful neutral.
		He strikes me as very articulate and cares a lot about the law and legal authority, but he's like...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's like a paladin.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think he's...
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Paladins are chaotic good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's an instrument of divine retribution.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't know about that.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He's chaotic good, man.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You can't tell what he's...
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You think he's chaotic?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He's chaotic good.
		You can't tell what he's gonna do.
		And he likes it that way.
		He uses that chaos to his advantage.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Huffy.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's why...
unidentified		Yeah, exactly.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's like Robin Hood.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Robin Hood was chaotic good.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think Robin...
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure about that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He could be neutral good as well.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Hey, guys.
		I'm going to stop you right there.
		Donald Trump is kind of good.
		Here's the story from the Intelligencer.
		Here's the story from the Intelligencer.
		Jill Biden becomes involuntary model in Trump cologne ad.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Involuntary.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look at this image.
		It's Jill Biden looking at Trump and smiling.
		And it says, a fragrance your enemies can't resist.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I love that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And Trump is selling the Fight Fight Fight perfume and cologne collection.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She loves them.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He really loves him.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Look, people that spend time around Donald Trump can't help but be like, ah, that guy's alright.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Uber charisma.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you said lawful neutral?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think he's lawful neutral.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's certainly not neutral when he does things like this.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He's super charismatic.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's chaotic good.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He's chaotic good.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He loves to be loved.
		And Joe didn't show up.
		She needed somebody there to talk to.
unidentified		Whoa!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Hey.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The other guy's wife, DJT, is down to party, man.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Look, I mean, he's definitely...
		I think that the closest thing for Donald Trump is chaotic good.
		You can never tell what he's going to do.
		He genuinely wants good things in the end.
		He wants good things for America.
		He doesn't want war.
		He doesn't want to hurt people unless necessary, which is like, you know, Soleimani he killed, but that was because he had political justification for that.
		Whether you agree with it or not, the point is that he's not out there thinking, oh, I'm just going to go and start wars to start wars.
		He's not a Dick Cheney.
		He's not looking to start wars so he can profit off wars.
		He makes way more money by having positive business dealings than he ever would by being at war.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look at this.
		I was thinking about buying some and giving them out for Christmas.
		I think it's a good idea.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Trump cologne.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think it's a great idea.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We've got to at least get one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's perfume, too.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Sample the smell.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look at the perfume.
		So he didn't put himself standing tall on it on the women's bottle.
		It just says, fight, fight, fight.
		But I'm like, dude, this is the best Christmas gift ever for your liberal family members.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You should have one on the table so everybody can get a whiff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's $200, though, man.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He knows how to sell it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Look at that.
unidentified		A golden Trump statue.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can smell like Donald Trump.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he looks like Superman in that, like Clark Kent.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Limited edition numbered collectible cologne celebrates President Trump's historic victory.
		I gotta get some.
		I appreciate it.
		Oh, it ships in March?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh man, backorder.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I wanted to get this for Christmas.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They're probably trying to keep up with demand because as soon as he started advertising.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You might be able to pull some strings and get an early...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Hey, they're probably not made yet.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
		I got it, man.
		I have so much gratitude for this guy.
		Now, as time goes on, and the amount of sacrifice, personal sacrifice, he's put himself through.
		And at one point, I was like, it's all ego, but he really cares, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you remember when he got two scoops of ice cream, but everybody else got one?
		Think about the kind of sacrifice someone like him would have to make.
		Normally, he'd go for four, but he chose to do only two scoops.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The big ask.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That was a funny thing where CNN made a segment where they were like, Trump gets two scoops, everyone else gets one.
unidentified		I don't remember.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I tell you what, if I was the president, I would get two as well.
		And I bet you if someone said, hey, can I have another scoop, Donald Trump would say yes.
		I bet he wouldn't say no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He'd just be like, why are you asking me?
		I don't know, the ice cream's over there.
		And they did that thing where his salt and pepper shakers were bigger than everyone else's, and I'm like, dude, I don't think Trump manages the salt and pepper shakers.
		These people are insane.
unidentified		Yeah, that's true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Anybody who's ever gotten catering, you're not going to be like, and make sure at my seat in the table I have the big...
		They're going to be like, what?
		I don't have those.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Don might have done that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, he doesn't.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He's like, make sure I have the biggest and the best salt and pepper shakes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Someone else.
		Someone else may have done that.
		Someone preparing to be like, give Don the big shakes.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He hires people and he's like, always make sure that I get the biggest and the best of everything.
		Make sure.
		He's definitely a showman.
		He's kind of less of a showman since he got into politics.
		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When he started, he was very much a showman.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now I think he's just pissed.
unidentified		He's been through hell.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He said the J6 committee should be in jail.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and the doge.
unidentified		He's all out of to give, I think.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He's like, good, Elon, Vivek, take over.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We're slashing the bureaucracy.
unidentified		I really hope that that is a legit thing, that they do a good job with that, because I frankly am dubious that anyone has the guts to deal with our debt problem.
		I just don't know, in a democracy, if that is a solvable issue when...
		When the votes really depend on getting, you know, an older demographic to support you and to support your party.
		And I just feel like any real solutions to the debt problem, it's going to have to involve cuts to Social Security, raising retirement age.
		I mean, won't it?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I mean, this is an extremely unpopular truth.
		If you have a significant amount of growth annually, you can manage the debt that we have, but I don't think that that fixes the problem.
		I think that there have to be cuts, or at the very least, there has to be a halt on spending while the country grows.
		Yeah.
		So as long as whoever is in the position to make financial decisions for the country isn't talking about cutting or preventing the increases, stopping the growth of the debt, stopping the growth of the deficit...
		If they're not talking about that, then they're not talking about fixing the problem.
		Right now, I just looked it up the other day, right now, without changes, Social Security, Medicare, go insolvent in 2033. That's eight years.
		So, I mean, if you want to actually fix the problem, because...
		Right.
		of she's not going to get the care she needs and they're going to steal from grandma and blah, blah, blah.
		All of that stuff doesn't matter because it will be worse if the dollar becomes insolvent.
		It'll be worse for them.
		It'll be worse for everybody in the country, first of all.
		And it'll be the most bad for the people that are most vulnerable to it.
		The poor people, the people that are old, they will suffer more from that, from the dollar becoming insolvent than from anything else.
unidentified		And we see that.
		By the way, I'm not crying over the debt.
		She's having an allergy attack, ill-timed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, she's crying over the debt.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So you scratched your eye earlier.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		If there's anything to cry over when it comes to government stuff, it's the debt.
unidentified		I just, I hope though, like I know Elon and Vivek, like they talk a great game.
		But I just, I don't know if anyone has it in them to really address the debt problem in the way that it has to be.
		But maybe so.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I can.
		I know how to do it.
		You got to fix the energy.
		You got to fix our fuel economy.
		Basically right now we're heavily reliant on carbon.
		We're too...
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Graphene.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Graphene's cool.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Graphene's carbon.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Graphene is carbon.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Graphene's...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, down with graphene!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's one material we can create, but what's happened is we've become plastic.
		Carbon, it's legit.
		Like, oil and coal are super legit, but we're heavily reliant on it, too heavily reliant for our economy to thrive.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Geothermal.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So we need hydrogen fuel.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Nuclear.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And they figured out...
		Geo's legit, but it's not fuel.
		Nuclear's legit, but it's not fuel.
		Fuel is transportable.
		And hydrogen is transportable.
		So we can retrofit our methane pipes to transport hydrogen.
		And they figured out with this flash-jewel heating where they electrify carbon and turn it into graphene.
		They give off hydrogen as a byproduct.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think we're going to change a centuries-long oil infrastructure any...
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But that is the...
		That's the actual...
		Elon and Vivek are great at slowing the bleed.
		They're slowing it down.
		But if we really want to push forward now that we've mitigated the detritus, we need a new fuel.
		And it's hydrogen.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		People are wondering what's up with Colonel Cross's eye.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I sprayed her with the Trump perfume when she walked in and she's having a reaction to it.
unidentified		No, I told them I had a scratch.
		I scratched my eye.
		And then I think, I don't know if it's allergies or it's just kind of dehydration.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Do you want water?
unidentified		I really am crying though.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'll get you some water.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Water helps me.
unidentified		I've got water here.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You got it?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Never mind then.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The dead is something we're crying over.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The dead is something you should cry over.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's terrifying.
unidentified		I'm like the Indian in the pollution commercial.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So once we make fuel cheaper...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The pollution commercial?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like it was in favor of pollution?
unidentified		I remember, you know...
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The guy throws a litter out the window and then he looks and then a tear comes down.
		I just love the notion there that it was like, for the average American, the Native Americans cared substantially more about the land than you.
		That was the message.
		Like, you're insulting these people.
		It's like, you've stolen everything from them.
		What...
		Look, now what you look at you're doing.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I always feel bad.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Feel bad about what you've done.
unidentified		Effective commercial.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I actually have a lot of hope and faith in the economy.
		Because the other thing that's going to happen is the United States is going to adopt crypto as part of its portfolio.
		And then the people without crypto are going to be destitute.
		This is a potential future.
		And then there will be an income equality war or some sort of civil conflict.
unidentified		Do you think that's going to happen?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		If we don't step on the gas, literally, and upgrade our fuel systems to integrate hydrogen, it's going to be a big economic split with the people that had crypto and the people that didn't.
		Because the U.S. dollar is insolvent.
		We can increase the value of our GDP by enhancing our fuel economy, by making new fuel sources that are cheaper to make.
		That will increase our GDP, which then makes $36 trillion actually only, whatever, $10 trillion.
		It still says $36 on paper, but everything's three times cheaper, so that $36 trillion can buy you $120 trillion worth of stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or we just drill more oil.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We should be doing that.
		Alaska.
		You can turn the oil into graphene.
		You can reuse this.
		Even if you don't use it for fuel, the carbon and the oil, it's still super valuable.
		Plastics.
		All this transport, and you can convert it into building materials.
		So yeah, we can really step it up.
		I think it all relies on the fuel, man.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I've heard they're making, and I don't know, I haven't done any kind of actual digging, but I've heard they've made some really significant advances in battery technology.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, solid state batteries were a big deal a couple years ago that they had figured out how to do that, and that means they can be very, very small and have tons of energy.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They figured out how to use nuclear waste in battery, diamond batteries.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, there was this thing I read about how it's like a tiny piece of radioactive material or whatever, and it just powers it forever.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think it causes a vibration in the lattice of the crystal of the diamond, and then it causes this slow energy pulse, because it's constantly, I think it might be piezoelectric, because it's constantly like...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They've been talking about that for a while, where your cell phone would charge as you walked from the vibrations.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And we talked about this before, too, with that flashlight that you would whack off.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You ever see those?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It has the magnet in the middle, and so you go like this, and it sends the magnet back and forth through the copper coil, and then it charges the battery.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You could get a really big one, too, if you wanted, probably.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or you could get two of them.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You could definitely get two.
unidentified		It would be a good time.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it'd be really, really fun.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And guys, the people who make the clips of the show are like, guys, we've already memed these.
		We've already turned them into GIFs.
		There's no point in doing it again.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Everything's about you guys.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Dude, battery tech is super promising.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Because I think there's huge leaps constantly right now.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, because, I mean, if you can double or triple the current battery storage capability for batteries and stuff, then you really make nuclear almost a no-brainer.
		Nuclear is super efficient.
		The actual nuclear waste, people think of like green sludge, but it's actual metal rods that are encased in concrete and metal.
		And if I understand correctly, there's never been any kind of problem with the nuclear waste material.
		It's not liquid.
		It's not like the green sludge that made the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
		Yeah.
		It's easy to store and it's easy to transport.
		There was a big car accident when they were transporting it and there was no damage to the vessel that the nuclear waste is carried in.
		Again, people think of liquid that's going to ooze everywhere.
		They're metal rods and they're encased in concrete and metal.
		So it's not like...
		It isn't what people think it is.
		Nuclear is the way, man.
		Nuclear is the actual solution to our energy problems, especially if you get serious battery storage.
unidentified		Is Elon a proponent of nuclear?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He's pro-nuclear, yeah.
		He thinks that solar is the be-all, end-all.
		Solar?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Solar.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he says solar.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		If I understand correctly, he thinks that eventually we'll be able to get the efficiency of solar panels to quadruple.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Who cares about solar panels?
		Do you point some mirrors at a vat of water and it boils the water and spins a turbine?
		And then we're done.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And the mirrors could be in orbit, and the vat could be on Earth.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Like, orbital solar is really a lot.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But it's just easier to have an array of mirrors.
		So there was a viral post where someone flew over Vegas, and they were like, yo, what is this?
		And there's two towers with mirrors pointed at them, and all it is is a gigantic vat of, I think it's salt water.
unidentified		Salt.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Molten salt.
		It's just salt.
		It's just molten salt.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In the thing?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and it melts and it stays hot overnight.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It boils water.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then it boils the water, and then the steam pressure as it's exiting is spinning a turbine.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Those things are massively productive, energy-wise.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They're not transportable, but damn, they put out a lot of power.
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		Uh-oh, YouTube just froze on me.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It always does this.
		YouTube is just...
		Anyway, here we go.
		We got Schlipp.
		He says, people should be more hesitant about throwing Luigi under the bus.
		The trial hasn't happened yet, and we don't know for sure.
		The potential of government railroading someone to look like they're doing something is impossible.
		Remember Damien Eccles?
		You know, I was thinking, too, when he said, you're insulting the American intelligence and lived experience.
		Like, what if he's saying, I didn't do it?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Lee Harvey Oswald also screamed something.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I don't really think that's the case because he could have just screamed, it wasn't me.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm a patsy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm being set up.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's what Lee Harvey Oswald said.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He was like, I'm a patsy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What does he mean by it's an insult to the American intelligence?
		Like, what is?
		What are you talking about?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Maybe the healthcare system?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I guess.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You're right.
		You're right.
		Don't take it for granted.
		The guy's innocent until he's proven guilty.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so J3TL4G says, Notably that the traditional left and right descriptions which arose in the French Revolution don't apply to American politics.
		It makes no sense to say that Dave Rubin and Tim Pool are far right.
		Like, what does that really even mean?
		But they've been calling Joe Rogan far right, and the dude supports universal basic income, which doesn't really make sense unless you realize that right and left are references to political tribes.
		So when we are speaking in terms of what matters to the American people, leftist refers to coded language that circles around particular ideologies and worldviews, and right does similarly in the direction.
		For someone to say lived experience, we call that coded.
		That means it's words only recognizable or phrases typically recognizable to leftists.
		Hence, if you go to a regular person and ask them about their lived experience, they're going to say, what is that?
		But if you go to a leftist who's in the cult, they're going to be like, of course I can tell you about my lived experience.
		It's a specific thing referencing them.
		You, sir, need to watch the show, perhaps, and you would be educated.
		But thank you for the super chat.
		I do appreciate it.
unidentified		Do you think maybe, let me just say, maybe there's some trace of a legit critique in what maybe he's trying to say, which is that we're, do you think maybe he could say that we're shrugging off the concerns of most Americans about the healthcare system?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think the issue is, I refer to this as a scaling problem, the way I describe it.
		If you have a hundred, if Apple gives out a hundred promotional phones to a hundred people, And 1% break.
		What happens?
		One guy goes on X and says, my phone's broken!
		And they go, sucks for you, I guess.
		What if they give it 100 million phones?
		And 1%, the same margin of failure.
		Now you have a million people on X screaming, my phone is broken.
		And they're like, what is happening?
		So what we likely see with instances like insurance is, you're only ever going to hear about the instances where the insurance company screws people over.
		And they do, don't get me wrong.
		But how many people go...
		Oh, I can't believe it today.
		I went to the doctor.
		And you're not going to believe this.
		My insurance covered everything.
		Even things I didn't think that probably would cover it.
		They covered it.
		You know, I called and made sure everything was okay.
		They were very nice and polite.
		What a great company.
		Never happens.
		Because literally everyone in the country has to have health insurance, you will get 330 million people.
		And the margin, so in the scaling problem, the larger a system, the lower tolerance there is for failure.
		And that's what we're looking at with all major systems in this country.
		So, I think, you know, if you had 100 customers of a health insurance provider and 10% got into an argument, no one would care.
		Like, I swear, you have 100 people and 10% failure rate.
		The other 90 are going to be like, we should probably, I hope you guys get that sorted.
		It seems like there must have been a hiccup.
		That's the extent to which there must be a hiccup.
		But if 10% of the country overnight couldn't get access to healthcare, it would be the apocalypse.
		People would be losing their minds.
		And that's big.
		And so, yes, I understand pre-existing conditions should and must be covered.
		Sorry, insurance companies.
		But there's a big problem there in how we handle this because we don't want government overreach, right?
		But then insurance companies would never cover someone who's got a pre-existing condition.
		That person just goes without health care?
		We got problems.
		We have to figure it out.
		Maybe we don't do insurance.
		Maybe it's pay-as-you-go.
		I don't know.
		Alright, what have we got?
		Britt Griffith, Mower Racing, says, Getting ready for 2025 lawnmower racing season.
		Are you interested in re-wrapping the mower with the updated design?
		The current wrap was a success for the 2024 season.
		I had great conversation with lots of people.
		Let's follow up on that.
		We are, of course, sponsoring Cody Dennison in this next year, and he's got flames on the front now.
		And, um, they said it was rooster wings, but I, sure.
		There's wings on the side and flames in the front.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Phoenix wings.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they're chickens.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Wings of the Phoenix.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I'm very excited to announce that my new skateboard graphic will be coming out in a couple of weeks.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And this is the 28th Amendment.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Have you showed that one yet?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if I've displayed it, but for those that don't know, the 28th Amendment, which I believe must be ratified, says chickens, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep, bear, and breed chickens shall not be infringed.
		And you're laughing.
		But I think Arizona just passed a law where they said cities can no longer ban chickens.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, what about roosters?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think, yeah, like basically you can have roosters and chickens, you know, fight about it.
		It is shockingly insane to me that there are many jurisdictions that outright say you can't have chickens.
		And it's like, look, I understand roosters because they be yelling.
		But chickens?
		You know what I mean?
		Chickens, they just go buck, buck, buck.
		They mind their own business.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They just stink.
unidentified		I was just laughing because we're overrun with them where I live.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Really?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It sounds like paradise.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So out by us, when you're driving down the road, chickens are literally running around.
		You can see them.
		We were driving and a chicken ran across the road and then I had to say it.
		Why did that chicken cross the road?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's like that in Hawaii too.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There are wild chickens everywhere out there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, dude, it's amazing.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Chickens are great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because, like, not only can you eat them, but you can also eat their eggs.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And they'll eat insects.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I actually think chicken pod thai is, like, one of the greatest accomplishments of man.
		It is not only the pre...
		Young of the chicken, but the chicken itself mixed into it.
		So it's a particularly brutal...
unidentified		Would you consider that to be very metal, Phil?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		To eat its babies and itself?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It is.
		When you eat yourself...
		There is a Cannibal Corpse record from late 80s or very early 90s called Eatin' Back to Life.
		And the cover, the zombie is eating himself and...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, like, when we eat chicken pad thai, there's chicken and egg in it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So we are taking their babies and their bodies and mashing it together.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's more like the follow-up to eating back to life called Butchered at Birth, where there's zombies eating the babies.
unidentified		Ha ha ha!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that for real?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, butchered at birth.
		Great record.
		Great record.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's that subreddit, NatureIsMetal, and it's just like...
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's like the great, the golden eagle or whatever, it flies over and grabs the goat and then chucks him off the mountain.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you just watch the goat bounce and then it goes down and eats it.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You ever see a goat climb a wall?
unidentified		Yes.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Crazy.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Goats are legit.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy how they do that.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They're extremely social animals too.
		If you only have one goat, they'll be depressed and stuff.
		You have to have multiple goats.
		Are they like inbred?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Because their eyes are all crazy looking.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's just what goat eyes look like.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's evolution, not inbreeding.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There could be inbred goats, and I'm not sure that inbreeding has the same kind of negative effects with goats that it does with humans.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But they're not like a result of...
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Their square pupils are like that.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's evolution.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright, let's see what we got here.
		We'll grab some Super Chats.
		It just...
		Okay, there we go.
		Oh man, YouTube's always screwing around.
		That is so weird.
		I just wanted to say that the weird furries are the vocal minority in the fandom.
		Most of us are just chill dudes who like SWAT cats too much.
		Perhaps furries could be the topic of a Culture War episode one day.
		Just get like three furries in here to talk and defend their rights.
unidentified		That would be hilarious.
unidentified		I will host that if you want.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We need some holiday episodes.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, if there are any furries out there that want to be on the culture war to explain...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They gotta be wearing the full suit, right?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and you have to be fully clothed.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It has to be YouTube-friendly, weirdos.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright.
		What do we got here?
		Exit Tin Man says, My theory is that drones are military and government, perhaps searching for something radiological.
		Chemicals snuck in the country.
		Maybe a credible threat.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we didn't talk about that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Drones.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's do that in the members only because they have pictures of UFOs.
		Like, the government actually released images of weird vehicles.
		Oh, that's cool.
		Yeah, it's creepy.
		One looks like a jack.
		You ever play jacks where you put them on the ground?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Sweet.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, very crazy.
		Let's go.
		What do we have here?
		Salty says, I've got to say that it pisses me off that I'm expected to relate to Neely just because he's black.
		No, I have more in common with Penny.
		We swore the same oath, served in the same branch, and aren't a menace to society.
		Isn't it insane that they're trying to scream to you that you have to have race as your commonality instead of the human experience and your beliefs and your passions?
		Did you guys see that woman screaming, white people stay out of our neighborhoods or whatever?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like, okay, you're like, I don't want to go in your neighborhood anyway, I guess.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's, like, illegal.
		If you're like, oh, white people, you can't live here, that's illegal.
		So, I mean, I don't know.
		It's just, it's silly to constantly say, oh, it's white people's fault that this guy was on the subway harassing people and scaring people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Was the arresting officer really named Frye?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Can someone Google that?
		Someone super chatted, anti-capitalist arrested at McDonald's by Officer Fry.
		F-R-Y-E. I don't believe it.
		You're joshing, aren't you?
		Officer Fry McDonald's.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's funny.
		It'd be the new McDonald's character.
		No.
		Officer Fry.
		Officer Tyler Fry.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that it?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That was the arresting officer.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Apparently, yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Tyler Fry, a rookie cop.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We live in a simulation.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is a simulation run by a seven-year-old.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Tyler Fry, he's like, well, my number has been called.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What if we're in a simulation run by Elon?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And he made himself a character?
unidentified		He's playing close to the vest.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's playing a video game.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He's like, I'll give myself God mode.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm making my character rich.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Everybody knows when you play a video game in God mode, it's not fun.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		He seems to be having fun, so he must have earned it.
		He's like, I'm starting with nothing.
		I'm starting in South Africa.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's like, I want to start the game with a billion dollars.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		With political aspirations, but he's not American, so he can't be president.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright, Fungus Among Us says, Luigi's Manifesto reads like a fiction.
		He claims that he had basic CAD skills, but the Glock frame he printed, he didn't design.
		It's a well-known design by Chairman Juan.
		I don't believe he wrote it.
		Well, no, I think he is like, I didn't have any particular skills.
		Like, if you understand basic CAD, like, some people don't even know what CAD is, okay?
		So he downloaded a design and that was it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm not even sure that it was...
		So the picture that I saw, I'm not sure that that was even printed.
		It looked like one of the old Polymer 30s, which were...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're claiming it was printed.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, that's what I hear as well, but it looks like one of the old Polymer 30s, which was...
		You could build it at home.
		It was just a lower receiver, which is not serialized, so you could sell them, and there was technically not a gun.
		and you would put it together at home, and it's made of the same.
		It is polymer, but it's not actually printed.
		It's just that you bought it on the open market.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Jacob Hawley says, my God, every single subreddit is going nuts with the guy being caught.
		They're calling for cleansing their enemies and ending all capitalists and calling for open revolution.
		Insane.
		You know what would be funny if just, like, Reddit is all CAA bots just talking to each other?
unidentified		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Look, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		X is the only real one.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Don't call for revolution.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You probably haven't run more than 100 yards in your whole life, and you're probably going to die.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man, that's why it's so funny.
		Like, these leftists celebrating for it, and I'm like, okay, there's basic math.
		On average, conservatives are going to have more knowledge of what they can eat outside and how to warm themselves than someone who lives in the city, and they're likely on well water.
		If society collapses, the urban individuals who rely on this big water infrastructure in their city, oh, they're done.
		Because your water stops overnight.
		And then the people who live out in the middle of nowhere are going to be like, pump's on, I don't know, we got a backup generator and the pump's been going, water's fine.
unidentified		It's kind of like in Gone with the Wind when all the guys are jonesing for war and somebody reminds them, actually, you know, the North, like they have all the industry, they're going to have us beat.
unidentified		It's kind of like all these revolutionaries, these left-wing revolutionaries who think that they're going to fare really well in a fight to the death with conservatives.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of insane when you, like these people are just LARPing.
		It's live action role play.
		They bring fireworks to I watched a video of a guy lobbing fireworks at police, because they do it all the time, and I'm just thinking to myself, like, what is the real point?
		Okay, these things can cause damage.
		They can seriously hurt people, but it's like the lowest degree of explosive you could throw.
		So the question is, if they're going to throw explosives, why are they throwing fireworks?
		Because they don't really want to hurt anybody, but they want to have the explosion and simulate conflict because they're bored.
		They're children playing a game of revolutionaries and cops and revolutionaries.
unidentified		Yep.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They wouldn't.
		It's like the Joker.
		You know, if they caught the dog, they wouldn't know what to do with it.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if they caught the taxi, a dog chasing a car, if he actually got it, he wouldn't know what to do with it.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're not smart people.
		But you know what my prediction was?
		Did you guys see the video of the guy crashing the car into the dealership?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That guy's got no kids.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		My bet.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if they come out and say, actually, he did, I'd be like, wow.
		But I bet he has no kids.
		This guy, Luigi, no kids.
		People with families don't do this stuff.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you have to be optimistic if you have a family.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Unless you're like John Brown and you bring the kids with you.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I guess so.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's what he was doing.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's something that we say all the time here.
		People that are happy and have something to live for don't engage in revolutionary activities.
		That's why the left finds the people that are upset and angry at society and they fill their heads full of leftist mumbo-jumbo.
unidentified		Ooh.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is interesting.
		Miss Richie Blackmore says, Luigi Mangione is from a super elite family in Baltimore that owns entire healthcare facilities.
		There's far more to the story than mainstream narrative.
		Look up Brian Thompson in Insider Trading.
		Could it be that he was actually angry about like Brian Thompson stole money or something from his family?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think if this...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's the thing about the conspiracies.
		If any of this was true, he wouldn't have screamed, it's an insult to the American people and lived experience.
		He would have said, he stole from my family.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I really strongly feel like, you know, it's just his head was filled with leftist garbage.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Dude, on November 8th, the SEC filed insider trading against Brian Thompson.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Really?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's going to be investigated.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's interesting.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But even still, insider trading has nothing to do with the way that the healthcare or health insurance stuff operates to the average person.
		So if he was doing insider trading, that's bad, like...
		In an abstract way, but it doesn't affect people getting care.
		You know what I mean?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I wonder if this guy saw that he was doing insider trading and was like, he's the problem.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Had that state of mind, like he's just all about profit.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I couldn't speak to that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know that like...
		The conspiracies make too many leaves.
		This is the problem.
		Are conspiracies real?
		Yes.
		Is this possibly one?
		Sure.
		But if you're going to, in your mind, map out a pie graph of probabilities, crazy unhinged dude who read garbled nonsense on the internet is much, much larger of the pie graph than anything else.
		Retribution, retaliation.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The spark is less relevant than what bred that guy's state of mind.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
		All right, let's go.
		The Y-Wing says leftists talking about how college graduates disproportionately voted for Harris.
		Turns out they also disproportionately shoot healthcare CEOs.
		Go figure.
		You know, yeah, we talked about a little bit.
		Millennials are plagued by credentialism, where they're like, my parents told me if I get a degree, it makes me better than you.
		And you're like, yeah, well, you can't get a job, you make no money, you're in debt, and you're a communist.
		So how's that working out for you?
		All right.
		SV Gadder says the guy 100% got caught intentionally because he could have easily disappeared.
		They had no idea who he was.
		It wanted the reason to be known.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Or he was going to do it again.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There are some rumors that he actually had other plans.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He had a new gun.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Something was going to happen tomorrow.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He still had the fake IDs.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there was a plan for something tomorrow, apparently people were saying, and then they caught him.
		They didn't know.
		The police said that this guy wasn't even on their radar.
		Until someone...
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They spot him at the McDonald's.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I feel like if he had...
		Considering the fact that he had money, if he really...
		Yeah, I agree.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think that he was planning on doing something again if this is the guy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright, well, we gotta do it.
		We gotta do it.
		Where's the...
		Wait, I think I just lost the super chat.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You'll find it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'll find it.
		Let me keep looking.
		It's from BasedJew.
		Here he goes.
		I'm sorry, we have to do this, ladies and gentlemen, because it's a birthday request.
		BasedJew says, it's my birthday.
		Ian, can we get a Roberto Jr. crow?
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, I didn't want to do it because I'm like, that's going to be upsetting to a lot of people, but it is a birthday request, and I felt kind of bad.
		You only get one birthday a year, you know, and he super chatted in.
		I felt like he deserved that birthday present.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The strangled joke at the end.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, every night I heard that 4 a.m., dude.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I know him well.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's why he died.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Love you, Roberto Jr., whatever you had going on in there, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He had a heart attack.
		Yeah.
		He had a bad heart.
		I remember when he first started learning to crow, he would collapse.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because he had like a breathing issue.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He pushed it to the limit, dude.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Squeezing his tongue.
unidentified		It was an old chicken of yours?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was a rooster.
		It was the son of Roberto.
		Roberto was the first rooster.
		Roberto was chilling at New Chicken City.
		And now there's RB3. He's the king.
		He's Roberto's grandson.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Roberto Jr.'s kid.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Limbred bastard.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Roberto Jr. His sister was his mother or something?
unidentified		No.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Was that one of the case?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No.
		Those were the first.
		Take it back, RJ. Yeah, no, Roberto banged his daughters and had other daughter grandchildren.
		His granddaughter daughters?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he Zeus'd it out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's chickens.
		He Zeus'd it out.
		Indeed he did.
		All right.
		Jimmy says, what are the chances Luigi gets rubbed out in a jail cell?
		Pretty good, I would say.
		Well, we know what happens in jails between these guys, you know what I'm saying?
		Oh, you mean killed?
		Oh.
		Well, I guess maybe.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I'm not really sure why.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I haven't heard anything about him being a kid diddler, and that's what tends to get you problems in jail.
unidentified		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're going to...
		I don't know what's going to happen to this game.
		All right, let's go.
		Dr. Y says, Phil, UNH pays $8.50 a share dividend on 920.28 million shares for an annual shareholder payout of $7.5 billion.
		Holy crap!
		I gotta buy me some debt.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I gotta hear that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What was that about?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		UNH. Yeah, UnitedHealthcare, that's the company.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, $850 a share, and shares are like $500 and something bucks.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		$600.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's down to $850 a share now?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
unidentified		No, no, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They pay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They pay a dividend.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Of $850 a share.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So they pay $850 per share that you own.
		If you buy like, you know, 10,000 shares, you'll get $85,000 in dividends or whatever.
		So the total, what he's talking about, the total billions is how much the total dividend payout from the company is to all of their shareholders.
		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright, KieranTheMeatMan says, Tim, you're wrong.
		There's a super simple way to hire family members for a fake job way above market rate.
		Be a politician.
		there we go alright Amalgamaniac Gaming says Brett Cooper just had her last comment section video today and they're giving the show to her producer Reagan the God King taking it another L I don't see it that way Everybody was spreading this rumor, you know, and they're like, oh, what's gonna happen?
		What's gonna happen?
		And I'm like, guys, it's really obvious.
		Brett Cooper is a young conservative woman and she got married recently.
		So obviously contract negotiations are going to come in.
		And my assumption is that – and I could be totally wrong.
		Don't get me wrong.
		Based on what you see, like they launched the show in the first place.
		They own the show.
		Brett is the principal talent.
		She probably said, I want to work less and make more.
		And they were like, nope.
		And she's like, I am going to spend time with my family and I want to have a family.
		I just got married and be on my farm.
		And they were probably like, we need someone to host the show full time.
		And I think it's that simple.
		I think this is the pitfall of being a conservative company, hiring young female conservatives.
		They're going to want to go be women.
		You know what I mean?
		Like, guys might be like, I'll work forever until my hands fall off.
		But women are going to say, I need family time.
		Guys are going to say that too, don't get me wrong, but women more so than guys.
		So, that's my assumption.
		I don't know.
		But, uh, I don't actually know why anyone cares, to be honest.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It seems amicable.
		Jeremy and Brett both made public statements about the amical finale.
		Her contract ended.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I had a contract for Fusion.
		It ended.
		Whatever.
		You know what I mean?
		Like, of course.
		Everybody acts like everything's such a big deal.
		It's like so much drama, you know?
		Like, Candace left when her contract ended, too, and everyone's like, oh, she's getting fired.
		I'm like, guys, her contract is over.
		You know what I mean?
		Like, certainly that was not amicable.
		You know?
		They don't seem to get along.
		Candace and Ben want to debate and all that stuff.
		But I think Brett, it's what, three years, right?
		And she's probably like, I want more money and I want to work less.
		I think that's really probably it.
		It's a big show.
		And they're probably like, yeah, we're not going to do it.
		We want someone who's going to work full time and host a show.
		And so, looks like they got somebody already.
		All right, let's grab some more Super Chats.
		What is this here?
		Sovereign Fish says the tax code is designed to keep the working class working.
		There is a glass ceiling around $2-3 million that is extremely hard to get past.
		Once you break through, it's easier to take advantage of loopholes and make more money.
		Indeed, this is correct.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And then I hear, according to Kanye, there's a diamond ceiling up there around, I don't know, $800 million?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Maybe it's $8 billion?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that what he said?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He just couldn't get through that ceiling.
		Did he say that?
		He's insinuated that there's a level of wealth you get to where you've got to make some deals to get to the next level.
		He's right, though.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		These levels aren't real.
		It's just that the amount of money, like to get to the level of wealth, say like of Elon Musk, you need a massive corporation.
		Massive, massive, massive.
		And his wealth is just tied in stock of the various companies.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think Elon's stuck at that ceiling, too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Elon's the richest man in the world.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Maybe on paper they'd like you to know things like the king of Jordan, the king of Saudi Arabia.
unidentified		In terms of being liquid, I don't think Elon is liquid.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Vladimir Putin is arguably the richest man in the world because he has the wealth of the entire nation of Russia that he hoards and keeps.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And there's estimates of like $700 billion that he controls.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I heard the Rochelle family was worth $330 trillion in like 2011. I wasn't able to confirm it because of course...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That doesn't mean anything, dude, to be honest.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The kingdom of Saudi Arabia, the king of Saudi Arabia owns Saudi Arabia.
		That means that he owns all the oil reserves in Saudi Arabia.
		Whoever, like, if it's not...
		They have armies.
		What was that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they have armies.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like, they are probably the richest people on Earth.
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		Colonel Kurtz, you want to shout anything out?
unidentified		Thank you.
		You can join me on my channel.
		I'll be crying over the debt some more.
		Thank you, Matt.
		It's at ColonelKurtz99 on YouTube, Twitter, and Instagram.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Word.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Follow me at Ian Crossland.
		This is the name behind me, as usual.
		And I think, is that Roberto Jr.?
		That is not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That is a chicken portrait that I bought, and it was very expensive.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So worship it.
		It's just a chicken.
		Find yourself.
		Hey, be good to yourself tonight, too.
		See you later.
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