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tim pool
- Mystery drones over New Jersey.
And I gotta tell you, one of the reasons why this story hasn't been getting more attention, by the fact that it's getting quite a bit of attention, is that they're just saying drones when they should be saying flying SUVs.
And you start telling people that in New Jersey there are flying SUVs everywhere and no one knows where they're coming from.
People might start freaking out.
Some people think they're aliens.
I think that's silly, though one can hope.
Actually, no, I certainly don't hope so because aliens would be doing who knows what.
But GOP rep Jeff Andrews says that it's Iran, that Iran launched some kind of mothership off the East Coast, which is dispatching these SUV sized drones to fly over New Jersey and Delaware, which is rather scary if you think about what that means, because Trump lives near there.
He's in Mar-a-Lago most of the time, but he's got Bedminster.
And there's concerns about what Iran wants to do to Donald Trump.
Now, the Pentagon is saying, no, no, no, it's not the case, but we will talk about that.
Plus, we got Daniel Penny threatening a lawsuit, malicious prosecution, and he's correct because does anybody know the name of the other guy that held down Jordan Neely?
I bet you don't, but we will tell you.
We'll talk all about it.
And then Caitlin Clark is getting roasted because she said that, like, I don't know what, she's succeeding because of her white privilege?
Fine, whatever.
And then I guess ChatGPT is alive.
It's lying to its creators to try and survive or something like that.
Sounds fun.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Ryan Gruduski.
ryan james girdusky
Thank you for having me, Tim.
tim pool
Absolutely.
Who are you?
What do you do?
ryan james girdusky
That's a great question.
I ask myself in the mirror every day.
I'm a political consultant, formerly seen on CNN, and I have a podcast coming out in January on the iHeartRadio network called It's a Numbers Game with Ryan Gruduski.
tim pool
Right on.
And this should be fun.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, it should be good.
Yeah.
tim pool
We got Raymond hanging out.
raymond g stanley-jr
Hey, friends.
Hey, friends.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr. here, USMC vet and blue-collar bully.
Hey, Phil.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
Ryan didn't tell you, but he is actually a beeper salesman.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I was going to wait to say anything.
ryan james girdusky
I have to do something better in my life where that can't be the only thing I'm known for.
I have to figure out something else to do.
phil labonte
Dude, it was great.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, I know.
phil labonte
Definitely something to be proud of.
tim pool
We do have a story.
CNN is losing in the ratings to the Food Network.
And we'll get into it, but I don't want to drag CNN over this because the Food Network's awesome.
raymond g stanley-jr
Everyone loves food.
unidentified
Dude, come on here.
tim pool
Watching someone make a good lasagna.
phil labonte
That's actually a really good point.
ryan james girdusky
They have the Christmas baking time right now.
phil labonte
Food is universal to human beings.
Not everybody cares about the news.
tim pool
I'm not going to blame CNN for that one, but we'll talk about it.
So let's jump to this story here, the one that is the most shocking.
The New York Post reports mystery New Jersey drones are coming from Iranian mothership offshore.
Congressman suggests, quote, should be shot down.
Holy crap, no.
That would be catastrophic.
They shouldn't be allowed to fly over New Jersey and the United States.
But I just want to stress, he didn't suggest it.
He literally said, I have high-level sources who are telling me this is Iran doing this.
Now, that's kind of scary if it's true.
I don't know that I believe it, because...
We're going to need some, I don't know, better sourcing.
But the Pentagon has come out and outright said, nah, this is not true.
jennifer griffin
Sabrina, can you tell me what the Pentagon is doing to address this issue of drone sightings over New Jersey?
It's near sensitive installations.
The FBI is involved.
What is the Pentagon doing?
tim pool
I'm going to pause real quick and just stress.
Guys, these are not just drones.
They are the size of SUVs.
These are flying escalades, okay?
Not literally, but massive vehicles flying at low altitude over these urban areas, and people are like, what is going on?
And apparently there's been 3,000 reports to the federal government about—so it doesn't mean 3,000 drones, but people are seeing these things all over the place.
raymond g stanley-jr
Is the mothership the SUV, or are they all of them?
tim pool
No, no, no.
There's a ship off the East Coast that's launching SUV-sized drones.
unidentified
Right, okay.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, which is, I mean, that's a big runway.
I have one thing to point out.
If they were flying saucers, and they crossed the whole universe, and they ended up in New Jersey...
phil labonte
You've already made your point.
ryan james girdusky
How disappointed would you be as an alien?
phil labonte
Especially up north, right outside New York City.
ryan james girdusky
Right, exactly.
You're in Newark, and you're like, I gotta get out of here.
tim pool
Is this what humanity has to offer?
unidentified
Exactly.
ryan james girdusky
This is not a great place.
Let's leave.
tim pool
For that matter, if it is Iran, what are they doing in Newark?
ryan james girdusky
Well, there's a lot of chemical and nuclear plants up there, too.
There's a lot of chemical plants.
raymond g stanley-jr
A lot of trash.
That's all I know.
ryan james girdusky
There's a ton of chemical plants up in northern America.
tim pool
Well, maybe that's why the aliens would come there, too.
ryan james girdusky
For what?
They would have their own chemicals.
tim pool
Well, to take out our chemical production.
ryan james girdusky
I guess.
I mean, Iran makes more sense than aliens going to Delaware to see Joe Biden nude bathe on the beach.
tim pool
Actually, I disagree.
That's one thing the aliens probably would do to study humans and be like, let's see what their leader does on the beach.
ryan james girdusky
Imagine that.
Yeah, they see Joe Biden.
He doesn't know where he is.
He's stumbling.
And they're like, listen, we're not going to this country anymore or this place anymore.
This is the strongest of them.
We're going to bypass the planet.
tim pool
You know, it is silly, but the scariest thought is if aliens did come to Earth and then said, we're going to choose a nation that we believe is the strongest we should communicate with for treaties, and they came to the United States and saw Biden, they'd look at each other and be like, let's try Russia.
phil labonte
I mean, I can't imagine them not being like, they picked this guy?
Do they actually have a say in who chooses, you know?
ryan james girdusky
That's true, though.
That is really true.
Or if they went to the wrong place, like Mozambique, and they're like, whoa.
Like, this is...
We are in the wrong place.
tim pool
You know, one could imagine they would go to where the lights are.
ryan james girdusky
Right.
That's true.
tim pool
But that's assuming they have eyes that can see light as we see light.
ryan james girdusky
Right.
tim pool
Or all we know, they don't.
ryan james girdusky
Or heat.
They admit with heat, I guess I can feel.
I have no idea.
I don't really think about aliens that often.
tim pool
I don't think this is aliens.
ryan james girdusky
I don't think it's aliens either.
tim pool
I'm not even sure it's Iranians.
But then the question is, what is it?
And why would Jeff Andrews say it was Iranian and they should shoot these things down?
ryan james girdusky
Well, can't they?
Isn't it possible?
And I know nothing about, like, how to destroy a drone besides, like, obviously shooting it.
But can't they, like, jam it?
Or I guess it would maybe affect the planes, too.
tim pool
Yeah, you could.
But you need information on the drone and to understand how it's being controlled.
If it's pre-programmed flight, then you probably can't do anything.
ryan james girdusky
I feel like we have the technology to do that, though, don't we?
tim pool
For one of them?
These drones in general don't need GPS or wireless data to fly on a path.
It can be pre-programmed internally, and it can measure its own speed and distance.
ryan james girdusky
Even if it's the size of a Subaru?
tim pool
Yes, especially of the size of a Subaru.
phil labonte
People are so used to the small drones that they see, the ones that you can fly and own personally and stuff.
You forget that the first drones that you knew about were the Global Hawk and the drones over Afghanistan that could carry Hellfire missiles and fire them.
That was the first...
First exposure to any kind of military drone, at least.
I mean, there are big, big drones.
There are drones that look like...
The US has drones that look like stealth aircraft, or they have stealth characteristics and stuff.
If it is Iran, I think that...
The U.S. should be, you know, the Coast Guard should be patrolling the waters off our coast.
ryan james girdusky
How did Iran get a ship large enough to house a ton of drones and get it that close to the, I mean, is it in the middle of the ocean or is it close to New Jersey?
phil labonte
I don't know what the range is.
tim pool
Or Jeff Andrews is wrong.
ryan james girdusky
Or Jeff Andrews is wrong, which is, I mean, he does represent southern Jersey, so...
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And he used to be a Democrat.
ryan james girdusky
He was a Democrat.
He's the only Republican with an A-plus rating from the pro-abortion people because he's still very liberal on social issues.
But he wins by landslides.
They do love him in South Jersey.
But, I mean, it's Cape May, so...
tim pool
Yeah, they say he stands by his statements, but as I mentioned, I just want to play the last little bit of this.
jennifer griffin
It'll be about a month ago that contains these drones and that that mother...
unidentified
I'm sorry.
...drones or activities coming from a foreign entity or adversary.
jennifer griffin
Representative Jeff Van Drew, who is a Republican from New Jersey, was just on the air saying that Iran launched a mothership probably about a month ago that contains these drones and that that mothership is off the east coast of the United States.
Is there any truth to that?
unidentified
There is not any truth to that.
There is no Iranian ship off the coast of the United States and there's no so-called mothership launching drones towards the United States.
tim pool
Do we believe him?
phil labonte
No, I think that the military generally doesn't want to give the public information about anything that's going on ever because the government likes to overclassify things anyways.
They like to control what information is out.
And there is legitimacy to the desire because...
The more the government, the military can control the information that whatever opposing force has, the more they can control...
The information they get, the better position the U.S. military is in.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, I mean, they wouldn't be honest, I don't think.
I mean, listen, if Iran was, like, having weaponized drones fly over New Jersey, they're not going to be like, yeah, panic.
They're going to be like, all right, you know, don't worry about anything.
I mean, that's probably what they would do.
tim pool
It does kind of seem to make sense to me that Jeff Van Drew is talking with someone in the know who says this, not expecting Van Drew to go on TV and just go, they just told me this.
And then the military's like, stop, no.
And so what a lot of people need to understand is the U.S. military, there are times where we get attacked, they don't tell you.
Because the U.S. wants to control the narrative as to what our strength is and when we engage.
When the U.S. says several of our troops were just bombed by Iran, they're basically saying we need public support for retaliation or some kind of incursion.
ryan james girdusky
Remember when those Chinese balloons were flying all over the West Coast of the United States?
And they were like, oh, it's nothing.
Don't worry about it.
And I'm like, oh.
phil labonte
I kind of chalked that up to just incompetence by the Biden administration.
But look, I think anything that violates the U.S. airspace, if it can't identify itself, the U.S. has every right and probably should shoot it down.
ryan james girdusky
Right.
phil labonte
Because...
The size of bombs and things like that.
You don't need a massive, especially when you're dealing with stuff that's the size of a car.
ryan james girdusky
And, like, New Jersey is the most densely populated state in the country.
If they have a, you know, Christmas holiday season, they could just, like, literally...
Forget about blowing up a...
If they blew up a bridge...
Like, they would lock down literally the most populated city with the most densely populated state in the blink of an eye.
So it doesn't...
I mean, they don't have to...
I mean, I'm saying...
I don't know if they're weaponized.
I don't know if it's Iran.
But I feel like if you downed one and there was, like, Iranian, like, language and print or whatever, like, made in Tehran on the side of it, you'd be like, oh, okay, I kind of know who this is now.
phil labonte
I do think that it makes sense to shoot them down.
I mean, Raymond, you're a military guy.
I mean...
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah, there's a lot of implications if it's going to go ahead and shoot it down over, like, populated lands.
phil labonte
Sure.
raymond g stanley-jr
I think they should have a helicopter out there.
I don't know why they don't have a helicopter out there tracking them.
See where they go.
If it's actually a threat, why are they not someone in there, Apache in the air, following them and see where they go?
ryan james girdusky
Well, they shot down our drones, remember, under Trump.
They were running and shut down Americans.
And we didn't retaliate at all.
They were like...
tim pool
The thing to consider about shooting down these SUV-sized drones is, first...
What happens when it falls out of the sky and what does it land on?
That's the obvious one.
The next one is, where do your bullets go?
phil labonte
Yeah, it's true if you're dealing with bullets.
I think that if they're the size that we're talking about, if they are the size of a car, they should have a radar signature.
raymond g stanley-jr
How do they miss them?
phil labonte
Yeah, you could see them while they're over the ocean still, if they're coming from the ocean.
ryan james girdusky
Right.
phil labonte
If that's the argument.
Now, again, I don't know what...
ryan james girdusky
You can shoot on the beach.
It's not summer.
There's no one on the beach.
phil labonte
Yeah, you can still shoot them out while they're over the air.
ryan james girdusky
Right.
phil labonte
And I do think that this is an argument for...
In the future, the U.S. should be looking to—I know that there's efforts to create, like, laser anti-air stuff that's not missiles and stuff, because shooting a missile is expensive.
A javelin is like $100,000 per shot or whatever.
ryan james girdusky
That's pennies in our mind.
Maybe under the new Elon Musk doge, we won't be spending that kind of money, but that's nothing.
phil labonte
It is, but if you have a laser, like lasers are faster to track, they can target stuff.
Ostensibly, the theory is that they can...
Well, they have lasers on ships now.
ryan james girdusky
No, I know.
phil labonte
And so if you had that kind of stuff, they can shoot down.
Like, there's all this talk about hypersonic missiles, which are just ICBMs or whatever.
If you can track and shoot those down, I mean, that's a worthwhile expense for the U.S. How many drones was it?
ryan james girdusky
Because it's not 3,000 drones, it's 3,000 sightings.
tim pool
It could be 3,000 people one time.
ryan james girdusky
One time.
That's a good question, too.
tim pool
I think it's dozens.
ryan james girdusky
That's a lot.
tim pool
Or a dozen.
ryan james girdusky
That's a lot.
tim pool
There are photos where you can see there's like several in the air at one time.
I mean, look at the way to take them down out of the sky is you want to wait for them to go over a much sparsely populated area, and then you want to drop a net onto the rotors, depending on if that's what they're using to fly.
I'm assuming these are rotor-based drones, but I could be wrong.
And if they are more like small jets, then you've got a bigger issue, but...
They've got to be brought down.
They could probably easily hack them.
And I say easily, I don't mean anybody could just do it, but anybody with the skills could figure this out.
There is also the...
I would find this interesting is they may not actually be wireless.
I would imagine because of what the U.S. already saw with the drone getting hacked and brought down, this technology has been updated.
And although many of these drones are going to be wireless and remote controlled, some of them will be pre-programmed.
So we've had this technology forever.
You can...
Put in the GPS coordinates in a drone.
It'll identify where it's at.
You can then deactivate its GPS, but it knows how far and fast it's going, and it has an internal map.
So it can track on a map and follow a route, come back with no external communications.
That you're not gonna hack.
ryan james girdusky
That's why you need to shoot it down.
raymond g stanley-jr
I did see a lot of them, they have lights on them.
So if they're irate...
tim pool
Yes.
raymond g stanley-jr
Go ahead.
I was going to say, if they're adversary, why are there lights?
Why can we see them in the sky?
tim pool
And it's been, as part of this report, is that when people take note of them and begin pointing, filming, and staring, the lights shut off.
raymond g stanley-jr
Oh, we have video of them with lights on, correct?
Right.
tim pool
So, the...
You have to...
I'll tell you a story, man.
My buddy was in a conflict zone reporting, and he said that he, like, a simplified version of it, he went into his hotel room and his computer was open.
And he was like, okay, well, my computer is always shut off, turned off, locked.
It was open, and the desktop was open like someone had logged in.
They want you to know they did that.
The only reason why Intel guys or whatever you want to call them, the only reason why they would forget to leave your laptop, to close your laptop, is because when you come back, they want you to know they were in your room and they had done this.
unidentified
Okay.
ryan james girdusky
Well, yeah, I mean, if you're Iran and you could get into the interior of the United States, that is pretty...
For anyone, I mean, not even just Iran, China, anybody, Russia, whoever, that's pretty freaking crazy.
phil labonte
To your point about China, or you bring up China, the fact that China flew a balloon over that made it literally over the whole country multiple times, I think that if it is...
I ran.
I imagine this is, you know, China in, you know, fighting.
ryan james girdusky
And do you know how many dumbass Zoomers probably took selfies with the balloon in the back and be like, look how beautiful that is.
Like, this is such a great moment for Instagram.
That balloon's in like 75 million different Instagram shots at this point.
tim pool
We'll read one more Super Chat before we jump over, but Mechanical Mercenary says they are manned and supposedly pivotal aero units doing military testing can't shoot our own pilots down.
Oh, he's saying it's us?
Yeah, I think it's a strong possibility that it's U.S.-based, but I don't know why they'd be flying over densely populated New Jersey urban areas, you know what I mean?
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah, as testing stuff out there.
We have plenty of land they can test out these products.
ryan james girdusky
And she would just say it's a routine whatever.
She would just say it's something else.
phil labonte
Yeah, and if they're testing, that's what the Area 51 is for, because they're over the desert, there's not a lot of...
ryan james girdusky
Tons of land with nobody living on it.
Sure, there's people that are watching, And we own 75 million islands in the middle of the Pacific if there's no one living on.
tim pool
The Mojave is...
ryan james girdusky
Whatever.
There's a bunch of islands.
tim pool
The Mojave Desert is ripe for flying weird things.
That's why they have the spaceport out there.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, so I don't think they would fly over New Jersey.
I don't think they were like, you know what?
Let's go crazy.
Newark.
raymond g stanley-jr
Well...
tim pool
Let's bring it back to Earth with this story from the Postmillennial Wanted posters calling for violence against health insurance CEOs spotted in New York.
There's a quote, Brian Thompson was denied his claim to life.
Who will be denied next?
Look at this.
This is crazy.
TikTok, TikToker, the BBQ lady, shared a video this week showing wanted posters for health insurance CEOs plastered all over Manhattan.
They say, deny, defend, depose.
When the rich rob the poor, it's called business.
When the poor fight back, it's called violence, says the one for murdered...
Oh, says the poster for murdered healthcare CEO Brian Thompson.
A suspect in Thompson's murder was arrested, this we know.
The poster shows his photo with a red X through it.
It blames Thompson, not his killer, for his death and issues threats to other executives with Optum Health and UnitedHealthcare.
These posters are a direct call for violence against executives in the health insurance industry.
Here's a question.
Do you think if someone was caught putting these up, they could be arrested and charged?
ryan james girdusky
Not in New York.
tim pool
No, not I. I'm not asking about New York.
I'm saying under the law, is this a violation of the law?
ryan james girdusky
Do they call for death in there?
raymond g stanley-jr
I don't know what they say.
Yeah, what do they say?
ryan james girdusky
If they call for death, then I think so.
That's the question.
Because it's not—this is an actual threat, then.
It's not—if they're calling for—if they say, execute this person who lives at this address, then yes, I think that they can.
phil labonte
It looks like they're mock-wanted photos.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, I understand that, but with the language in it, yeah.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
If someone's putting up a flyer that says, do a thing to a person, it's a question of, is that crossing the line into illegality?
ryan james girdusky
I think if it says specifically what you want to do, if it says harm this person, you can't make physical threats to somebody.
You could sit there and say they're terrible people.
tim pool
This is the challenge.
What if it says, here's a picture of a CEO, you know what must be done, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
Literally, the text says that.
Is that a threat of violence?
Because we know what they're saying.
ryan james girdusky
I failed at a law school.
I didn't go to law school, so I don't really know.
But I have no idea what...
I don't know.
I think that...
I don't know.
It depends on what it's...
Does it say what it's exactly saying?
Deny...
No, I don't think that...
tim pool
I'm speaking like...
The point I'm bringing up is...
Obviously, if someone puts up a poster that says, you should go do thing that is criminal, that's criminal.
I'm saying if someone uses veiled language that we know what the intention is, but they didn't literally say it, do we just say, well, you know— Well, we saw that in all the Gaza protests.
ryan james girdusky
They said veiled language, but it was legal because we have a First Amendment in this country.
You can say something as long as you're not actually threatening somebody.
I think that there was—I think if this is veiled language, it's legal.
tim pool
They're going to start going out chanting, oh, won't someone rid me of this priest?
phil labonte
Yeah, but— I mean, it depends on the question you're asking.
Are you asking is or ought?
So should it be illegal?
Maybe.
Is it illegal?
raymond g stanley-jr
Great point.
phil labonte
Probably not.
tim pool
You know the story of I want someone rid me of this priest?
ryan james girdusky
No, I don't.
tim pool
The king was frustrated with the priest.
He was like, oh, I want someone rid me of this priest, this meddlesome priest.
And then two knights were like, okay, and they went and killed him.
And he was like, I didn't tell you to do this!
ryan james girdusky
Where was this country?
Is it for real?
tim pool
Britain, I think.
ryan james girdusky
Oh, okay.
Sounds like a British thing to do.
raymond g stanley-jr
It does.
ryan james girdusky
I don't think that this...
I don't read the poster and I didn't go to law school.
tim pool
Turbulent.
Turbulent priest.
It was Henry II of England preceding the death of Thomas Beckett.
He was frustrated and annoyed by him and said, you know...
ryan james girdusky
Well, Beckett never shut up, so I can see that.
Yeah.
I think that – I don't think that this is illegal from what I see.
But I'm not a lawyer.
But it's definitely a threat there.
And I'm sure if you were a CEO, you'd probably be moving to a gated community and not seeing yourself publicly.
tim pool
What you're saying is a civil war is coming?
ryan james girdusky
No.
Didn't say that at all.
raymond g stanley-jr
And their fight back is, like...
ryan james girdusky
America is so fat, we cannot have a civil war.
We can barely walk to the corner.
So, like, it would be a rolling electronic civil war.
We're all on, like, those things you see at Walmart and Disney World.
That would be, like, the army instead of tanks.
raymond g stanley-jr
Like that robot animation.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah.
tim pool
Just the morbidly obese of both factions.
ryan james girdusky
Just the morbidly obese of people just trying to, you know, roll towards each other.
unidentified
Sir, we need...
raymond g stanley-jr
More rascals for the front line.
ryan james girdusky
Forget about rising again.
They can't rise, period.
It's just, yeah, no.
I don't think that this is...
tim pool
What do you think happens with this wave of...
Is this a flash in the pan that people forget about come January?
ryan james girdusky
Well, look, you were at the Occupy Wall Street stuff.
How long did that last for?
phil labonte
Well, not only that...
tim pool
Four months, and then by, like, February, the protests were a tenth of their size, and then...
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, everyone moves on.
phil labonte
Listen, I know, I don't think that it's everyone moving on.
This kind of stuff, this sentiment, is built on Occupy.
It's built on the...
tim pool
That's true, too.
It's the same people involved.
ryan james girdusky
Okay, but true question.
If Luigi was not good-looking, would anyone care?
raymond g stanley-jr
Oh, good question.
phil labonte
I do think so.
ryan james girdusky
They don't care about the crime as much as they care about the person because he's handsome.
JonBenet, they didn't care much about the crime.
They cared about the victim.
phil labonte
I don't know, man.
George Floyd was not that pretty.
And that still set up a bunch of...
tim pool
Yeah, but...
Chauvin.
raymond g stanley-jr
It was...
phil labonte
I mean, I understand what you're saying, that the charisma of the actual shooter might have something to say.
ryan james girdusky
Big difference.
phil labonte
But I have felt like, and I continue to make the argument regularly, that there is a sentiment in the U.S. that is illiberal.
We have a big communist problem in the U.S., and there are people that are essentially making class-dynamic Or class conflict arguments.
This is totally about class dynamics.
ryan james girdusky
That's 100% true.
His case is very strange.
I was talking on the way here.
tim pool
He might be the guy.
ryan james girdusky
You don't think so?
tim pool
His lawyer said they've so far been presented no evidence that he's actually the guy who...
There's no evidence tying him to New York.
I'm not saying I believe that's true.
The lawyer could be saying that for obvious reasons.
But also the police reported that this guy wasn't even on their radar or list when he was actually apprehended.
ryan james girdusky
Why did he have to show an idea to McDonald's?
raymond g stanley-jr
No, they called the cops on him, and the cops came in, you know, show me your ID. So the cops asked him, who are you?
ryan james girdusky
It wasn't a McDonald's worker.
Okay, so someone's one of the workers.
I have a second cousin who looks just like him.
Yeah, I don't know.
All Italians and Southern really look like semi-related to that guy.
I think that...
Here's what's weird.
He was from a super wealthy family, right?
I don't think he was denied any services.
That's the whole argument.
Like, oh, he was denied a service, therefore he became a vigilante.
I never have heard of him being denied a service.
phil labonte
I heard that he got back surgery that is notoriously...
You get it, and maybe it'll work, maybe it won't.
And his didn't work out, and so he blames the...
tim pool
Blames the insurance company?
You know that he's an insult, right?
ryan james girdusky
He can't have sex.
Which also makes no sense, because he's so built.
He's so jacked.
How can you lift weights and not have sex?
phil labonte
Let her get on top.
ryan james girdusky
It's not that much work.
I mean, like, seriously, that doesn't make any sense.
A lot of things in his narrative don't make sense.
tim pool
Someone reported...
So it's like a guy who knows him says that his back pain was so bad that he couldn't be intimate.
ryan james girdusky
I read that.
That was like a roommate or something like that.
tim pool
I'm just clarifying for the audience.
ryan james girdusky
No, yeah.
I mean, I get it.
But, like, at the same time, a lot of things in the whole story just are very strange.
tim pool
It could be really simple.
Like, the thing about incels is that...
There was some interview a while ago with a guy who was an incel, and he was an average-looking guy.
And he was like, it's just impossible for us to be intimate with women, blah, blah, blah.
And the response from most people in the comments was like, what are you talking about?
He's like a normal guy.
The issue is social and in his mind.
It's possible he's ripped, but still completely incapable of talking to women.
ryan james girdusky
Possibly, he's very handsome.
He went to an Ivy League school, rich, rich family.
tim pool
Dumb as a box of rocks, though.
ryan james girdusky
Possibly.
tim pool
Did you read his manifesto?
ryan james girdusky
I mean, there was a lot of spelling errors.
I mean, like, there was a lot of spelling errors.
And I also read some of his book reviews.
I also saw his Spotify playlist.
That was strange as shit.
It was like Charlie XCX, Taylor Swift, and Lana Del Rey.
Who kills someone after listening to Taylor Swift?
I mean, like, I mean, yes, but like, no, not out of aggression, or you're listening to Taylor Swift.
It's like you're, you know, energized by a Taylor Swift song.
phil labonte
To Tim's point, though, and actually this is something that Matty Iglesias tweeted yesterday, like, There were big, dumb things in his manifesto.
So he's talking about the market cap list, which is totally wrong.
He ignores the role of homicide, suicide, drug overdose, and car wrecks and life expectancy.
unidentified
Obesity, yeah.
phil labonte
So he's saying that life expectancy is something that the health insurance company or health insurance industry should have an effect on, and that's totally...
unidentified
Misaligned.
phil labonte
Overstating the role of insurer profit in the U.S. to health spending.
ryan james girdusky
And then Roe Connell repeated all the bad facts about how much...
Yeah, I mean, he's in Congress.
phil labonte
So the guy was an idiot.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, no, there was a lot of things completely and totally wrong.
Also, life expectancy is back up again and obesity is down.
Health-wise, under Biden's presidency, actually things have started getting a little better.
But, not to his credit, it just so happened.
tim pool
And not to him.
ryan james girdusky
Not to him.
No, no.
Oh, sorry, Joe.
But yes, I don't think that he was a philosopher king.
Also, wait, he has such bad back problems.
He's being shoved by the cops and fighting against them.
You can't have sex, but you can go with your arms tied behind your back and start shoving at cops.
tim pool
The incel thing may have been just to deride him.
ryan james girdusky
I don't think that that's real.
I'm sorry.
I just don't believe it.
raymond g stanley-jr
And being rich and wealthy makes no sense.
In the aspect of BLM, a lot of folks, it's people in New York who were caught throwing Molotov cocktails at the cops.
unidentified
Rich.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah.
Wealth doesn't pay an expense.
ryan james girdusky
No, I didn't say wealth to be a socialist.
raymond g stanley-jr
You said it doesn't make sense.
ryan james girdusky
No, it doesn't make sense that you couldn't have sex and be wealthy.
That's easy to buy, I mean, if you're that wealthy.
But no, most radicals usually do tend to come from higher income families.
unidentified
Yeah.
ryan james girdusky
The poor are not the ones.
After your 12-hour shift at Walmart, you're not going like, you know what I need to do right now?
Get a Molotov cocktail.
You're kind of exhausted.
But most of these people are from wealthy.
I believe the radicalization could happen.
I believe that he could have printed a ghost gun.
He was such a smart engineer, and maybe his political takes were all bullshit.
But there's a lot of things that are very, very strange about the case.
phil labonte
I agree that it's strange.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
I just want to ask you about the silencer, right?
Wasn't there a silencer in the video?
So we didn't find that.
I haven't seen any reports that they found a silencer as well.
They found a gun.
The photos I've seen was just a gun in a magazine.
phil labonte
Didn't they say that they had the silencer?
raymond g stanley-jr
Not that I've read yet.
I tried to look it up a little bit, but I haven't seen it.
ryan james girdusky
One other thing.
We know more about him than the Trump shooter, the Las Vegas shooter, almost every other shooter.
And I think it's because, partially, people are interested in him because he's good looking.
I don't think that they cared.
I think that that has driven a lot of attention in this case where, you know, I wasn't alive during Ted Bundy.
No, I think that that's—well, listen, I look like a fat Jew, so it doesn't matter to me.
But I think that this is probably what is projected a lot of interest in this case.
I don't really think there's going to be like a bunch of vigilantes now being like, you know what?
I'm going to do the next Luigi.
phil labonte
You know, I don't— I think that I probably agree with you there's not going to be a bunch of vigilantes, but I do still stand by the argument that there is a significant upswing, and there has been for the past 10 or so years, maybe longer, of essentially Marxist power dynamics that people believe.
If you are an oppressed person, or if you can style yourself oppressed, and we see it with the way that...
People have been lying about being minorities or whatever.
They lie about, I'm some oppressed group because that is social currency now.
If you are oppressed, then you are...
ryan james girdusky
Or it's not even if you are oppressed, if you're fighting for the oppressed.
Yeah, that's true too.
This guy's not oppressed.
He's not oppressed.
He's not oppressed.
But he's fighting for the oppressed, which makes him an ally or whatever the hell they call it.
phil labonte
And that dynamic, that essentially, again, Marxist power dynamic, is something that is really, really prevalent probably in Gen Z and maybe some younger millennials probably too.
And it's a poison.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, and I think a lot of it lives on the internet, where the people's brains go to fry.
I think there is, like, men's illness is really being driven on the internet big time.
tim pool
You know, I was talking to a buddy of mine who was recently in New York, and he was concerned that...
The liberal center of New York would have a negative reaction to his presence because of his online persona, and he found completely none of it, and people were happy to meet him, and they were fans.
And I was just like, there's two things to understand.
The internet is not real life, but the internet deeply influences the institutions of real life, like how ads are bought and what people are willing to say or not to say.
So what I find is...
99.9% of people I meet are going to be fans.
They're going to agree largely on most of these issues.
They're going to say abortion to the point of birth.
That's crazy!
But maybe they're more moderate on abortion issues.
But then the problem is with the internet and with wokeness up until obviously the sweep this November, advertisers and individuals are scared to speak out against what they perceive to be the dominant culture.
ryan james girdusky
Right.
No, that's true.
That's 100 percent true.
People only look at financial retaliation.
I saw this on like an Instagram thing, so maybe it's not true.
But didn't a lot of the View ladies just recently lose endorsement deals or whatever because of how hatred—look at MSNBC. I know that for a fact.
That's what I read.
There were a few of them that lost movie deals or whatever.
Could be wrong, but look at MSNBC. It's being sold for scraps.
CNN, the Food Channel.
I mean, they are all, because it's so vitriolically hated—there's so much hatred, rather, coming from them that I think that—oh, sorry, hatred towards conservatives from them that I think that people are kind of tired of.
tim pool
Look, man, you see Gwen Stefani.
She recently did a commercial.
What was it?
For Hello?
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, for Hello.
For the Catholic thing.
tim pool
Yeah, a lot of people were like...
ryan james girdusky
But she's always been openly Catholic, but she's not paid attention.
tim pool
But to see, like...
A celebrity from her position, like Mark Wahlberg we get.
Mark Wahlberg has been deeply religious for a long time and people know that.
And you mentioned that.
But people are feeling like that along with the Apple commercial and the Volvo commercial, that a major shift is towards the right.
ryan james girdusky
It's not walking on minefields anymore.
And that's like the thing that I noticed about...
I wrote this whole long piece of the American Conservative magazine about the 2024 election.
And part of it is like when Trump went to UFC fights and people were fighting...
Celebrities were fighting for selfies with him.
I think that that was a major cultural turning point where people were like, oh, it's not bad anymore.
I could say this out loud and it's not going to be scary or cancelable or whatever.
And I think that that was – I think that's a big part of it for sure.
raymond g stanley-jr
It's kind of crazy how it all changed.
ryan james girdusky
It changed fast because BLM – It was insane.
It was insane.
BLM was so nutty.
You ever go through a traumatic experience, and then after it's over, you take care of someone who's very sick, and then they die, and then after it's over, you're like, that was insane that I lived like that, because that was nuts.
This is kind of like what we're having afterwards.
When I was on scene one time with, what's his face?
Van Jones.
No, not that one.
Van Jones.
Ann Jones.
Ann Jones goes, yeah, my party was really crazy in 2020. I go, but why?
It was crazy because of BLM. And you sat there and said all the criminals need to go free.
And we could burn down buildings.
And everything was okay.
And you co-signed criminality.
And for a lot of minorities who are not lawbreakers and who want to own a store or whatever it is, they were like, I'm not really down with this.
I'm not really going to be this party.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story from Fox News.
Caitlin Clark admits feeling privilege as a white person.
Says WNBA was built on black players.
phil labonte
Yeah, men.
tim pool
She got featured on Time Magazine as athlete of the year.
And then, of course, because there's a target on her back for being at the top, she immediately pulls this, please, please, leftists, don't beat me up anymore.
And it is particularly cringe.
The sad thing about this is that she was generally viewed favorably by everybody, conservatives, liberals, whatever.
Now she's just basically taken a political stance.
And weirdly, it's the losing political stance as the Republicans just swept everything.
ryan james girdusky
She's also getting the crap kicked out of her.
tim pool
That's what I'm saying.
ryan james girdusky
She's like, please don't beat me anymore.
I mean, she's actually getting physically beaten on the...
tim pool
Well, this is not going to help.
ryan james girdusky
No, there's no way.
It's a bunch of angry lesbians beating the hell out of her because she's a pretty straight white girl.
I mean, that's exactly what we're watching.
She's like, please don't beat me anymore.
tim pool
Well, it's not going to change.
raymond g stanley-jr
I mean, we're going to have this for generations, right?
We're going to have the millennials start it off.
We're going to have Gen Z and then Alpha.
They've all been institutionalized to believe that white privilege is a thing, that all this woke ideology is a thing.
The normies will believe this kind of thing.
ryan james girdusky
I bet you she did not write this statement.
I bet you a PR company did.
And they said, this is the way you handle this.
And this is the statement you have to give.
Because she doesn't.
Ever speak of politics.
And I think, I might be wrong on this, but I think she used to like Instagram posts that were Trump friendly and people had a big outrage towards that as well.
Yeah, there's no...
tim pool
She could consider perhaps growing a spine.
phil labonte
I mean...
ryan james girdusky
It probably got knocked out of her door on the court.
I mean, that's...
tim pool
You know, man, sometimes having a spine means getting your spine kicked.
raymond g stanley-jr
Unless she believes it.
Like I said, all these people have been taught this for years and years.
Their whole growing up-ness.
tim pool
I don't think she actually believed it.
ryan james girdusky
I think that her PR company was like, we'll take care.
This is our job.
We know what we're doing.
Look at how much we helped you.
You're this big celebrity.
And they wrote something and she probably was like, all right, that sounds good.
I don't think that she's a particularly political person.
raymond g stanley-jr
Well, you could be kind of.
tim pool
This is the problem with wokeness in institution and industry and sports or whatever is that Nobody wants you to be.
The culty people do.
They would demand it.
But she could have just not entered the fray of the culture war and she decided, hey, I'm not a very political person and I've got people on left and right who actually are cheering for me.
I'm going to ruin all of that and scream one of the most fringe political ideologies I can.
phil labonte
I think that Ryan's right.
She's probably getting beat up and not physically beat up.
ryan james girdusky
She is physically getting beaten up.
tim pool
They've been tacking her on the court.
ryan james girdusky
They've been literally pummeling this poor girl.
And her teammates don't stand up for her.
They let it happen.
phil labonte
It's ridiculous.
ryan james girdusky
And she's making like $40,000 a year.
She's going to need that back surgery that Luigi had pretty soon.
And she's not getting the money to do it because she's making $50,000 a year as a WWE player.
tim pool
She has endorsements.
ryan james girdusky
Oh, I know, I know.
But still, I mean, she's the most famous WN player I think who's ever lived at this point.
I don't know.
I can't name another one.
tim pool
I can't name a single one.
ryan james girdusky
I can't name a single WN player.
No one cares about the WNBA. No, but she made it interesting, and the fights made it interesting, and yeah.
tim pool
Can you, off the top of my head, Venus and Serena Williams, like top female athletes.
Mia Hamm, was that her name?
raymond g stanley-jr
No, no, she was like a soccer player.
tim pool
I know.
And Venus and Serena were tennis players.
raymond g stanley-jr
I'm sorry.
tim pool
I'm saying, how many top female athletes can you name?
Patrick and Rachel.
ryan james girdusky
There was the pink-haired soccer player.
I don't know her name.
tim pool
Megan Rapinoe.
ryan james girdusky
Megan Rapinoe.
tim pool
I don't know anything about her.
ryan james girdusky
The woman from the 80s.
Billie Jean King.
Okay, I got one.
The other lesbian who's...
I don't know.
tim pool
I mean, Venus and Serena is the easiest because they're some of the greatest athletes of all time.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, I mean, for women.
tim pool
For women.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah.
For girls, they're great.
Oh, the swimmer.
Riley Gaines.
I know her.
I met her.
So there you go.
I got one other one.
I mean, but yeah, there's not a time.
tim pool
But is Riley like a world's best Olympian level top tier?
ryan james girdusky
No, but...
raymond g stanley-jr
Oh, Simone Bowles.
Simone Bowles.
ryan james girdusky
Simone Bowles.
Oh, yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
She's super good.
unidentified
She's killer.
ryan james girdusky
She's very, very...
She had a nervous breakdown.
She couldn't compete, but she is very good.
tim pool
Oh, and what's her face who turned into that floozy?
Oh.
The gymnast.
ryan james girdusky
We turned into a floozy.
What's her name?
raymond g stanley-jr
Don, off the top of my head.
ryan james girdusky
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know what her name is.
tim pool
Is floozy the wrong word?
ryan james girdusky
No, I don't know.
Maybe she's a floozy.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah, it's a good word.
ryan james girdusky
I, uh...
tim pool
Oh, Michaela Maroney.
ryan james girdusky
I don't know who that she is.
tim pool
Yeah, she just started doing Instagram content or whatever.
Maybe I'm wrong about that and I should apologize because I don't know what I'm talking about.
ryan james girdusky
We're not really killing on the female athletes list.
tim pool
They're going to be like five guys in a room of misogynist patriarchists.
raymond g stanley-jr
Maria Sarapova.
She was a huge member.
tim pool
She was the tennis player.
Navratilova.
ryan james girdusky
Navratilova, yes, because she talks about all the women's stuff.
She wants women's sports.
We're killing it.
How many WNBA? Oh, zero.
raymond g stanley-jr
There's not a chance.
Dana Terezi.
She's one of the OGs.
tim pool
Did you just look that up?
raymond g stanley-jr
No, no, I knew that one.
tim pool
Okay, I didn't know that.
raymond g stanley-jr
No, she's good.
I swear to God, she's good.
ryan james girdusky
Okay.
I mean, wasn't there only one dunk in the whole history of the WMA? Yeah, that was that tall lady.
tim pool
Why don't they?
They can't dunk?
ryan james girdusky
They can't dunk.
tim pool
They physically can't.
ryan james girdusky
They can't physically can't.
raymond g stanley-jr
Weird, they can only jump like one foot instead of two.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, there's only been one, I think, one dunk in the history of the WMA. Yes.
tim pool
Isn't it like the hoop lower though?
ryan james girdusky
I don't know.
phil labonte
I don't think so.
raymond g stanley-jr
I don't think so.
ryan james girdusky
I think it's the same.
Only one dunk.
Yeah, so it's not...
tim pool
Remember when that group of high school boys...
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah, 15-year-olds?
The 15-year-olds beat them.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, biology's real.
phil labonte
Yeah.
ryan james girdusky
I mean, at the end of the day, biology's real.
phil labonte
You'll get in trouble for that one.
But it's true.
tim pool
I skateboard, so I don't know much about basketball, football, or otherwise.
But I can tell you that major league sports don't bar women from playing in them.
Really?
ryan james girdusky
They don't?
tim pool
Yeah, a woman can try it for the NBA if she wants to.
ryan james girdusky
Oh, I didn't know that.
tim pool
Good luck.
That's why there have been women who've tried it for the NFL, as kickers.
phil labonte
Did they ever get it?
tim pool
No.
ryan james girdusky
Oh.
tim pool
There are a few female kickers who are decent, and they've tried, and then, like, just flubbed it.
raymond g stanley-jr
To answer your question, it was the best trade America has ever made for a hostage in the world would be Brittany Grimer.
Oh, yeah.
The only one to ever dunk.
ryan james girdusky
There you go.
tim pool
She dunked?
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah, she dunked.
It says the only one who stands alone in 2024. She's a giant, too.
Yeah.
She has no marks.
Anyways, that's a whole different subject.
ryan james girdusky
Okay, so yeah, there you go.
raymond g stanley-jr
David Lucas was on here.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah.
tim pool
I will say this.
I can't speak to the other sports, but in skateboarding, the first 720 rotation, which you understand what that means, right?
ryan james girdusky
360 times 10. Right.
tim pool
So it was landed in, I think, I think it would have been the early 80s.
And the first female 720 was landed a couple years ago.
I think a couple years ago.
The first 900 rotation.
ryan james girdusky
Is it because of the height you need to get to to do that?
I imagine you need to be high in the air to go around twice.
tim pool
So it's on a vert ramp.
Well, let me say one more thing.
The first 900 rotation, of course, very famously Tony Hawk in 1999. So it's now been 25 years, and the first female 900 was ever completed 25 years later.
And the first 1080 spin was done by a 12-year-old boy.
No female has yet to accomplish a 1080 rotation.
ryan james girdusky
Maybe they need to find a 10-year-old girl.
I mean, that's pretty wild.
I know more about the WNBA than I do about skating, so I'm completely at a loss.
tim pool
I'm just using that to describe the gap in time it took for women to accomplish what men had done decades ago.
And for whatever reason it is, my point is that women were capable of doing it, but did not do it.
unidentified
Okay.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, but is it because they never...
Right.
Tanya Harding is another...
unidentified
Oh, sure, yeah.
ryan james girdusky
Ice skating.
raymond g stanley-jr
Nancy Kerrigan.
ryan james girdusky
Sorry, Nancy Kerrigan.
We got...
Yeah, I'm just sorry.
Blanked in my head.
No, there are female...
Like, there's female figure skaters who do stuff, but is it a question of ability or creativity?
I would imagine it's more of ability.
Like, the median...
There's probably more...
Median, well, female ice skaters than men, but there's probably more amazing male ice skaters than females.
tim pool
In my experience, watching male and female skateboarders, female skateboarders tend not to be able to jump.
unidentified
Maybe that's why they can't dunk on the WNBA. I'd imagine.
raymond g stanley-jr
Brave total, I apologize, in 2024 is only Brittany Grimer.
In all of WNBA, per Brave AI, 37 dunks in total.
Out of 27 years.
37 out of 27 years.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Muggsy Bogues could do a 360 dunk, and he was 5'3".
raymond g stanley-jr
He was awesome.
phil labonte
Brittany Griner's 6'9".
ryan james girdusky
Whoa!
raymond g stanley-jr
She can get 3 feet.
phil labonte
It's 3 foot.
She makes 3 foot vertical.
Well, actually, no, not even a 3 foot vertical.
raymond g stanley-jr
Her arms are...
phil labonte
Her arms are like...
unidentified
It means like a 1 foot jump to be able to do it.
tim pool
What were we talking about again?
Oh yeah, wokeness.
ryan james girdusky
Wokeness.
tim pool
So I'll just bring it back to the article and just say it's kind of funny for Caitlin Cox to say this when it's on the way out.
ryan james girdusky
Right.
tim pool
We just saw the massive wave towards Trump and against this, and she's like, I'll go the other direction.
ryan james girdusky
I think it's probably a PR firm.
And I just think that she...
Listen, she...
I mean, it's not easy, especially when there's a racial...
View of everything that she does because she is a white woman in a black sport with a black audience predominantly, I imagine.
I would love to know actually where the revenue of the WEA comes from.
Is it primarily a black audience?
tim pool
It knows everything, doesn't it?
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah, it does.
Rock.
ryan james girdusky
Is it mostly a black audience or a white audience that pays for all the tickets and stuff like that?
raymond g stanley-jr
That's a lot.
It's all offset.
tim pool
It's all subsidy.
There's no audience at all.
Nobody watches it.
phil labonte
It's all finance.
ryan james girdusky
People watched it when she was playing, though, in the college.
No, those are just family members.
raymond g stanley-jr
She's got so many family members.
tim pool
All the players' family members show up.
You know when a high school band is trying to play a show, they just bring all their friends and family to pay the five bucks to come in so they can do the show?
That's what it's like.
ryan james girdusky
That's the WNBA. But there's got to be some viewership.
tim pool
You had seven pay-per-view viewers today.
It was mom, dad, brother, sister.
We're just ragging on the WNBA now just because it's funny.
raymond g stanley-jr
It is funny.
phil labonte
So Grok says that it's a mix of individual fans, season ticket holders, groups and organizations, and resale market.
ryan james girdusky
I wonder if the demographic is mostly...
Probably there's a lot of black audience doing that, and so she feels like this is what they have to do.
tim pool
I don't know if I agree, because...
ryan james girdusky
Daytime TV is overwhelmingly black female viewers.
Really?
And that's WNBA's Daytime TV? No, but that's why you see the casting of daytime TV being what it is, is because it used to be, 30 years ago, a lot of stay-at-home moms in the white suburbs doing that, and that's why it's soap operas.
Now, it is primarily a black female audience.
It's overwhelmingly, and that's why I do know that for a fact, and that's why the daytime TV looks the way it does, and the politics the way it is.
Maybe she's just like, this is what your demos look like.
unidentified
It's...
raymond g stanley-jr
I mean, this is a whole different subject.
Is that because a lot of them have...
They're not working?
ryan james girdusky
I don't know why that's the audience.
I do know that's the audience.
And that's the audience for the view.
And that's why the views...
Topics have changed.
That's why their politics have changed.
That's why there's so many judge shows.
They're cheaper to make, too.
But that's why there's so many judge shows.
That's the demo that sits there and feeds into those things.
So I don't know.
But that is why...
I imagine part of it is sitting there and saying, Caitlin, your audience is...
50% black women or whatever.
So you want to sit there and toe the line and keep pushing on this?
Possibly.
I don't know.
tim pool
This is a spoiler for sponsorships.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, if it's like, what's her face?
Who was the transgender...
tim pool
Dylan Mulvaney?
ryan james girdusky
Dylan Mulvaney.
Yeah, I mean, Dylan Mulvaney...
There will be, by the way, there will be...
tim pool
Blood Light is not going to recover.
ryan james girdusky
There will be an economics course, hopefully one day, like Harvard Business School, saying how to ruin a very successful business, and it will be all about Dylan Mulvaney's endorsement.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
ryan james girdusky
And a response to it.
No, in a real world, they should be teaching business courses of how to ruin a company.
tim pool
Indeed.
Well, let's move on.
Let's jump to the story from Fox News.
Daniel Penny's lawyers weighing malicious prosecution lawsuit after trial.
Collusion from the very beginning.
I'd like to start this by first, those aren't familiar, I think everybody knows.
Jordan Neely was a well-known violent criminal who had rejected treatment, who appeared in a train threatening people.
Daniel Penny had subdued him in the process.
Jordan Ely ended up dying after the fact.
Penny just recently was acquitted.
But as many people, they're somewhat aware.
I have a question for all of you guys.
Can you name the other man who held down Jordan Ely?
phil labonte
No.
raymond g stanley-jr
Negative.
I don't know.
ryan james girdusky
I know he's black.
phil labonte
You have to Google it.
raymond g stanley-jr
I know his name is Gonzalez.
That's all I know.
tim pool
Oh, he's close.
ryan james girdusky
Oh.
tim pool
Eric Gonzalez.
raymond g stanley-jr
Eric.
tim pool
The black man who held down Jordan Ely and didn't get charged.
So it sounds to me like Daniel Penny may actually have a malicious prosecution lawsuit.
ryan james girdusky
There should be some kind of recourse where if your life is destroyed by a political DA somewhere, you should have some kind of recourse to sue them.
I mean, I don't know what that would be like.
I'm sure you could sue the city.
You can't sue the DA personally because there's protection.
tim pool
Oh, it says they're going to sue him.
The lawsuit would target DA Alvin Bragg and the medical examiner's office.
I mean, who do you target in a malicious prosecution anyway?
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, but the DAs have protective immunity, so I don't know if they can.
raymond g stanley-jr
Do they?
I know cops do.
ryan james girdusky
I'm almost 100% sure.
raymond g stanley-jr
You wouldn't know more than me.
ryan james girdusky
If the DAs don't have protective immunity, I would be shocked considering how many would have already been personally sued and had their house taken away.
That would be hard to sit there and say how they could sue him personally, but he could definitely sue the city.
tim pool
It says his team is eyeing a malicious prosecution lawsuit against DA Alvin Bragg and others behind the charges, turning the tables.
Quote, they knew they weren't going to be able to get him, so they had to get rid of that top count in order to get that second count just in hopes that maybe they could pull out a win here.
ryan james girdusky
Do you know that Daniel Penny is also Italian?
As a fellow Italian, it has been highs and lows this week as far as people making the news.
Among my people, yeah.
tim pool
Maybe you should call the family.
ryan james girdusky
I don't know what's going on, but we've had ups and downs.
Yeah, I hope he's successful.
I don't know how he would do it, but I hope he's successful because he was ripped his whole life, even forever, no matter what he does.
He could cure cancer, and it will be next to his name, the guy who did the chokehold.
tim pool
Did you see what the corporate press has been saying?
There was one like a print paper and it said Marina quit it after strangling Subway Dancer or something like that.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah.
phil labonte
Unreal.
tim pool
It's just strange.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, but where does he go to get his life back?
Really?
I mean, that's the thing about the internet.
There's no way to ever go back to your normal life.
You can never have a normal life.
Even if he moves to like a red state or red county, you can never have a normal life again.
That will follow your kids for the rest of their lives.
Everything.
I mean, and it was clearly all nonsense.
tim pool
Well, he could solve this easily.
ryan james girdusky
Oh.
tim pool
If he transitions and gets a new name, then no one's going to know.
raymond g stanley-jr
Daniela?
ryan james girdusky
Daniela.
tim pool
Well, that's a little on the nose.
raymond g stanley-jr
That's what they usually do.
tim pool
Maybe he can change his name to Jordan.
raymond g stanley-jr
Penny?
phil labonte
Neely?
ryan james girdusky
I mean, yeah.
tim pool
And then put on a dress.
raymond g stanley-jr
And dance.
ryan james girdusky
No, but that's a good—I mean, listen, I hope he's successful.
tim pool
So this is—not to, like, just shift too dramatically, but this is an interesting conversation that came up.
I can't remember what podcast I was listening to.
They were talking about how that trans youth may be a result of being unable to escape the internet.
Yeah.
So imagine this.
You're a teenager and someone films you at a party or whatever and embarrasses you and ruins your life.
Everyone's making fun of you and they keep sharing the video and you can't escape it.
You want to change your name.
You want to be someone else.
raymond g stanley-jr
It's dark.
tim pool
And yeah, so not that it's an absolute reason of all trans youth, but that the concern is that there are young women who are deeply embarrassed, deeply impacted by social issues, get mocked and made fun of for something in school, and then are told you can change your name, change your appearance, get surgery and be someone else and move to a new school if you do this.
ryan james girdusky
The UK just banned hormone blockers.
tim pool
Yeah.
ryan james girdusky
It's definitely...
That's the one thing they've been actually pushing for a long time that's actually conservative.
But the thing is, it's clearly a social contagion.
There's absolutely no way it's not a social contagion.
tim pool
Strangling subway dancers or...
ryan james girdusky
Not being trans.
As a child.
But the thing, the difference is, you're around my age, so I'm 37. When you were getting picked up in school, when you had an embarrassing incident, when you did something...
It left in school that day and you went home and it didn't follow you.
And now with the phone, it follows you.
And a big part of that is, you know, I don't know.
tim pool
There's no escape.
ryan james girdusky
There's no escape.
It literally follows you.
In Australia, they just banned apps for people under 16. I think we should, yeah.
tim pool
I think you should only be allowed to have a phone, a smartphone after 16. And before that, it should be a dumb phone.
ryan james girdusky
You know, I do a lot of things with school boards because I run the 1776 Project Pack.
We do school board elections.
And the number one school board trend that's happening in schools across the country, and this is blue and red, is the banning of cell phones in classrooms.
phil labonte
Absolutely.
ryan james girdusky
It's happening across— In the schools.
In the schools.
tim pool
But dumb phones are fine if all they can do is make phone calls.
ryan james girdusky
Are they texting?
tim pool
As I said, just phone calls.
Texting is...
ryan james girdusky
Do they have a rotary phone?
phil labonte
There's no reason to have phones.
tim pool
They have phones that they make for kids where...
raymond g stanley-jr
Right, in general.
tim pool
It can dial and it can't make texts.
ryan james girdusky
Really?
I know that.
I thought it was just texting.
tim pool
There was an e-ink phone that came out a while ago that all it does is make phone calls.
And they target it for elderly people.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
But I think they should need...
Parents...
You can lock the phones, you can get them, and you can disable it, but the kid's gonna figure out how to get it.
ryan james girdusky
Well, you know what?
It's the problem is the parents are oftentimes in the classrooms, one saying, no, you have to have my kid's phone on because I need to get a hold of him at all times.
And it's this mass anxiety by parents, which is nonsense.
tim pool
Did you hear that story of the mother who got arrested because her 11-year-old was walking to the bodega?
ryan james girdusky
Yes.
tim pool
What's going on?
Like, let the kids just go do their thing, man.
ryan james girdusky
When you realize how much more dangerous the world was when we were growing up in the early 90s versus now, and the paranoia compared to, and before that, what Gen Xers grew up in in the 70s, was like, it was far more dangerous.
phil labonte
Go outside and don't come back until the lights are on.
tim pool
Yes, I was going to say, when I was, 30 years ago, my parents were like, you're grounded from inside the house.
Push me outside, close, say when the lights come on, come home.
raymond g stanley-jr
My mom would kick me the F out.
Like, get out of here.
I'm trying to do something.
Come back later.
tim pool
I'd get on my bike, and then I would ride around my friends' houses, and then when the lights came on, I'd ride home, and then I'd come home and we'd have dinner or something.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, but it's remarkably a much safer world than it was 50, 40, 30, 20 years ago.
And you would think that massacres are happening on every single block, the way that people are treating children.
And that elongates childhood.
There was a great book called Generations – I forget the author's name.
Gene Twiggy.
Twiggy, whatever her last name is.
But it talked about how people are children well into their 20s now and have a child mindset.
So a 25-year-old now has the life experiences of a 15-year-old.
And I have some relatives like this who are in their early 20s who – I mean, I did more at 16 than they did at 21, and they have no ambition to even do that, which I think is part of the breakdown.
tim pool
Going back to the story of Luigi Mangione, look at his life.
The dude's institutionalized his whole life, and I don't mean like in a health care facility or something.
I'm saying he wakes up, goes to school as a little kid, then he goes to school as a teenager, then he goes to school as an adult, then he gets out and he's like, what is this?
What is this?
What is that?
He has no idea what's going on.
A 26-year-old, for hundreds of thousands of years of human development, a 26-year-old would be building their own house with a bunch of kids.
Now they're, I just finally got out of school and never had a job, and I'm 26.
ryan james girdusky
Did he never have a job?
tim pool
I don't know if literally he didn't, but he's an Ivy Leaguer who went to school and got his...
ryan james girdusky
And was a valedictorian, too.
So you'd think he'd be running a company by now or founding one or doing something.
tim pool
He has no work experience.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, it's odd.
It's really, really odd.
Also, Matt, he gave his valedictorian speech, which now imagine that was like your valedictorian was Luigi.
Like, where are they now in the 20-year reunions?
tim pool
Just look at the current state of how kids are being raised, and let's project that out 20 years.
ryan james girdusky
No, 100%.
People do not have that...
People made fun of millennials beyond belief because we liked avocado toast and imagine we were too much like children.
I love avocado toast.
It is great.
It is great.
People lost their minds because of that.
But anyway, they lost their minds off of avocados.
But that millennials being, I guess, young until we were 30, alphas, it will be until they're in their early 40s.
raymond g stanley-jr
Do you think we can switch it back?
We're kind of like steering back towards the...
ryan james girdusky
There was a story about how the number of wealthy white Americans who are going to colleges down, which I thought was very, very interesting.
And I think that maybe people, if they have the opportunity to do something else, are taking it.
Taking a level of risk is part of growing up.
Right?
We divorce people from risk.
That makes them children forever when you have everything decided for you.
So maybe by not going to school, maybe sitting there and having a risk of, like, I'm going to start a company.
I'm going to make a job.
I'm going to do something for myself.
Maybe that will make them grow up.
I don't know.
But that would be part of it where you sit there and say, you know, I think divorcing from social media is part of it.
tim pool
Kids need jobs.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah.
That's why we can't let robots take over everything.
tim pool
Kids need jobs, like mowing the lawn.
And a couple years ago, I said kids need jobs.
And we were talking about, there was some bill that would allow kids under the age of 16 to work for like 12 hours at certain jobs or whatever, and the left lost their money.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, I know.
I told that, yes.
They were like, you could work at like a Chick-fil-A for like, you know, I guess it was like 20 hours a week, 24 hours a week, which is, it's a lot.
tim pool
And you're like, it was for like 14 and 15 year olds.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah.
tim pool
And they're like, oh, child labor.
And I'm like...
ryan james girdusky
How old were you when you had your first job?
tim pool
Uh, nine.
ryan james girdusky
Nine?
tim pool
Yeah, my family owned a coffee shop.
ryan james girdusky
Oh.
tim pool
That's right.
And kids need jobs.
Before that, I mowed lawn and raked leaves.
You'd get a rake, you'd go to the house, you knock on the door, can I rake your leaf for five bucks?
And they'd be like, yeah, sure.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, we used to shovel snow for like 20 bucks at people's houses.
That was like, when it was good snow season as a kid, you're like, we are making bank right now.
raymond g stanley-jr
I was delivering newspapers in a vocal PA at 6 with my brothers.
tim pool
Now kids are sitting around playing video games, going to school, and then they are 22 and they've never had a job before.
raymond g stanley-jr
That's crazy.
tim pool
And they look up to Bernie Sanders, who also never had a job.
raymond g stanley-jr
Wait, that's true, right?
tim pool
Yeah.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah.
And his wife made a university go bankrupt, which I did not think was possible.
It did.
His wife at the university did go bankrupt.
tim pool
That's based.
raymond g stanley-jr
All those guys.
tim pool
That's based.
ryan james girdusky
I guess.
I don't think she meant it.
I think it was like, buy it.
tim pool
Whatever her intentions were, the outcome was good.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah.
And he has three homes.
And he's a millionaire.
So, I mean, only in America could a socialist make so much money.
phil labonte
Well, he stopped pointing at millionaires, too, as soon as...
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
As soon as he became a millionaire, he dropped the word millionaire from all his speeches.
ryan james girdusky
Really?
tim pool
Yep.
unidentified
He used to go, the millionaires and the billionaires in this country.
tim pool
And then he became a millionaire and he started saying the billionaires.
ryan james girdusky
Really?
I did not realize that he dropped millionaire from his little verbiage.
tim pool
It's just billionaires now.
And I was like, Bernie, look, there's a difference between a millionaire and a guy with $999 million, okay?
Like, you're allowed to say the millionaires.
ryan james girdusky
If you're 60 and you bought a house in a good neighborhood in Austin or whatever, and now it's worth $3 million, you're a multi-millionaire, but you could be a car salesman and just be making a decent living.
raymond g stanley-jr
The right investment.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, the right investment will change everything like that.
tim pool
Yeah, but these socialists have no idea what they're talking about, hence they are defending Neely, and they defend the bad guys in every...
ryan james girdusky
But isn't it always true, or most of the time true, that the biggest radicals in history are always from the wealthy class?
They're never usually poor people.
I mean, that is true.
It's been all over Europe, too.
So it would make sense that this Luigi kid who never apparently really worked that much, even though he went to school and got...
He's not smart.
Maybe in engineering.
Listen, yes, his manifesto was nonsense.
Maybe he knows how to engineer.
I don't know.
I don't know engineering.
So what am I supposed to sit there and say?
tim pool
It's like when he said, we have the most expensive healthcare in the world, but our life expectancy is super low.
I was like, oh my god.
I bought a car from the car dealership and it was too expensive.
My gas prices are so high.
It's like, those are not correlated things.
ryan james girdusky
He did mention obesity now, right?
tim pool
No.
But a great point brought up by Jeremy Kaufman is like, We're good to go.
Comparable.
ryan james girdusky
But it's funny how healthcare is the one thing that they have this belief of...
They don't blame the doctors.
They don't blame the nurses.
They only blame the insurance agents.
phil labonte
When it's really the government because it's the most regulated industry in the United States.
And subsidized.
ryan james girdusky
I remember in 2006, I needed health insurance or something, and I bought it on a website for $250 or $300 a month.
And now that's almost impossible to do for less than $1,500 a month.
What I pay for in health insurance for me and my employees is crazy high.
And it wasn't before Obamacare.
There was no way it was this high before Obamacare.
phil labonte
Obamacare screwed everything.
It was supposed to fix all the problems, and all it did was it allowed the insurance companies to write their own rules...
the health insurance industry.
It made prices skyrocket.
The argument was prices are going to go up, then they're going to come down once people start buying into the system and stuff.
But they never came down because the most subsidized and most regulated industry in America is the United States, or in the United States is healthcare.
I made this argument multiple times this week already.
If you get rid of subsidizing it, there's no reason for your healthcare to be attached to your job.
You should have the money, obviously, to pay for healthcare, but you shouldn't have to have a job to be able to go to the doctor.
ryan james girdusky
Well, that was the whole FDR thing.
FDR was the one who pushed for healthcare and jobs to be connected.
No, sorry, he didn't push it.
When he was president, because taxes were so high, companies offered health insurance instead of raises.
phil labonte
Yeah, we talked about that last night, too.
But the argument that it should just be free is BS. There needs to be a market, and that's the only way prices are going to go down.
ryan james girdusky
Maybe I'm wrong with this, but didn't the number of insurance agencies diminish since Obamacare?
phil labonte
Yes, yes.
ryan james girdusky
It is almost like the military, where the number of, not the military, but the people who supply military supplies has decreased substantially over the last 20 years.
phil labonte
It's the same thing that happened with the banks after Too Big to Fail.
There used to be multiple smaller banks, and they all got eaten up by a handful of bigger banks.
ryan james girdusky
Right.
phil labonte
We don't want the government to go into an industry and have massive regulation.
You have to let the markets do it.
And when people do things that make their business fail, the government can't come in and save them.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, my buddy Ann Coulter always said if tarot card readers had a lobby, they would be covered by insurance.
tim pool
Oh, absolutely.
Let's jump to the story from the Daily Wire.
The first thing I want to say is we routinely cover the demise of CNN and other cable news networks.
unidentified
Amen.
tim pool
And I wanted to make a joke about beating a dead horse, but it feels a little too close to literal in this regard because CNN is dying.
But CNN falls to Food Network Hallmark channels in ratings battle following Trump victory.
The ratings are so bad they're now beneath Hallmark.
ryan james girdusky
Wow.
tim pool
The evening lineup averaged a total of 367,000 total viewers between 8 to 11. In comparison, Fox averaged 2.5 million.
Understand, that is not key demo.
ryan james girdusky
That's overall 367?
tim pool
Yeah, their key demo is 67,000.
raymond g stanley-jr
Brutal.
tim pool
Guys, we have more than that watching the show on average live, let alone the total viewership.
ryan james girdusky
People's tweets have more viewership.
CNN hosts get more visibility from tweeting their stories than from being on air, which is also crazy why they're all making seven figures, or in the case of Anderson Cooper.
tim pool
It's actually pretty crazy, too.
Fox News, in comparison, had 280,000 viewers during the key demo, and that's pretty nuts because we, as well as a lot of other shows, are absolutely crushing that.
The scary thing is, to understand, while an episode of Tim Kest IRL may end up with about 600,000 to 700,000 viewers every night, It used to be that the top shows were getting 5 to 10 million in the key demo, but now it's completely decentralized.
So there's some good there and some bad there.
The good is that decentralization is largely healthier for a media diet, but it also means that...
My concern right now is that Fox, Disney, Comcast.
Comcast, everyone's like, oh, they're dumping all these big channels, right?
Yeah, but Comcast isn't going to sit back and go, guess we lose.
They're going to say, how do we buy into the space on YouTube?
And then if they come into the space, you know, I look at what we've got here, and I was talking to friends about it.
I'm like, we're like an indie label.
We're like, we're a privateer.
The East India Trading Company is around the corner.
When they come in and claim the high seas, we're going to get crushed.
ryan james girdusky
Right, if you could watch...
If you're a big Fox News fan and you can't afford cable, but you can afford a YouTube, and they just did the ads on YouTube, if they could figure out a way to make it easy to watch it without a subscription, you could 1,000 percent.
Jesse Waters would have tons of viewers.
tim pool
Well, they do.
They put the segments up, but it's not just that.
ryan james girdusky
If you could watch it live on YouTube, if you could watch it.
tim pool
It's on YouTube TV if you're paying the subscription.
What I'm saying is Fox is going to say...
Jesse, we're launching your YouTube podcast.
And we're going to put $20 million in your first year behind it in marketing because we are reclaiming the space.
Well, and then MSNBC is not going to just die off.
Comcast is going to go to YouTube and say, we think you guys should have a prominently displayed featured channels bar when people go to YouTube.com and we'll pay you $100 million a year to be on that.
ryan james girdusky
But think about the top 10 biggest conservative talents in America right now.
How many got their start from Fox News?
raymond g stanley-jr
Tim?
unidentified
Yeah.
ryan james girdusky
I mean...
raymond g stanley-jr
It was a joke.
ryan james girdusky
No, I thought he was asking a question.
No, Fox News produced probably seven of the top ten, eight of the top ten.
tim pool
Tucker?
ryan james girdusky
Tucker, Megyn Kelly, Glenn Beck.
tim pool
But Tucker was on a bunch of channels before Fox News.
ryan james girdusky
But he became a conservative titan when he was on Fox.
Megyn Kelly, Glenn Beck.
You could go...
What?
raymond g stanley-jr
Is Coulter one of them?
Ann?
ryan james girdusky
No, but it never worked for Fox News.
But O'Reilly's podcast is gigantic.
tim pool
Is it really?
ryan james girdusky
It's huge.
It's very big.
I don't know if it's in the top ten, but it's on the list of the top 50 of political podcasts, the last time I checked.
unidentified
Well, top political podcasts or top podcasts?
ryan james girdusky
It's up there.
But the point is...
tim pool
I think he's medium.
ryan james girdusky
Okay.
Well, whatever.
He's mid.
The point is that if you could do that, if you could go directly before they go independent and they could get, I don't know, a cut of it, yeah, there's no reason.
tim pool
Yeah, he is not a top podcast at all, actually.
ryan james girdusky
Okay.
raymond g stanley-jr
Which one, Bill?
We're talking about?
ryan james girdusky
Bill?
tim pool
Yeah, he is not in the top 200. Oh, wow.
ryan james girdusky
What is this?
tim pool
In news, he's number 42. Okay, that's where I saw him then.
In, yeah...
But that's a pretty, like, news is a limited field.
ryan james girdusky
Right, but he's also been off the air for 15 years.
My point is that how many talent comes out of the Fox News world?
But out of the Fox News world, a lot of conservative talent comes out of that.
So before they go independent and they have the big enough audience to go independent, they can easily do that.
tim pool
Yeah.
Indeed.
phil labonte
I mean, I don't know that Fox has produced that many of the big ones, but I mean, they've produced the biggest of the big.
ryan james girdusky
They've produced a lot of big ones, though.
phil labonte
I mean, look at what Tucker Carlson did after Fox News.
He's probably the biggest person that's come out of Fox News, right?
ryan james girdusky
Right now, yeah, but it's...
I mean, yeah, yes, right now, but the independent space is very young.
You know what I mean?
It's not like people have been doing this for 20 years about going on doing their own podcast.
Yeah, for right now, he's...
Him, Megyn Kelly's huge, Ben Shapiro had a lot of things on there.
Fox News definitely helped Ben Shapiro with his career.
Charlie Kirk appearing on Fox News several hundred times definitely helped his career.
A lot of people's careers have been immensely built.
phil labonte
Crowder was on Fox News, and they're having There isn't the same kind of boost from CNN and MSN. Tucker is number eight in the world.
ryan james girdusky
When Jesse Waters used to talk about me being on CNN, more people had watched it from the Fox clip than from actually being on CNN. That was a regular thing.
I never got hate mail while I was on CNN because no one ever watched the network.
It was the clips on Twitter.
tim pool
We are the 57th.
Nice.
On Apple, we're not 156, but for all platforms combined, 57. That's solid.
Tucker, I think, is 36 on Apple.
But Apple, actually, this is kind of wild.
When I first started, Apple was the big dog.
Now YouTube is the biggest player in podcasts.
ryan james girdusky
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, YouTube is.
And the ad dollars are all in YouTube now.
It's wild.
ryan james girdusky
Why is it people because they have to watch it on camera or they listen to audio?
tim pool
So video is heavily preferred now for the format.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
tim pool
So, obviously in the early days, you'd turn it on and listen to it and do other things.
ryan james girdusky
Right.
tim pool
But with the video option, it's called vodcasting.
For a lot of people now, it's just some people, when they have the choice, they'd rather watch a show like this with a video element to it.
ryan james girdusky
Wow.
tim pool
That's why Spotify edited it.
Apple, they owned the space and they really let it down.
And ad rates are dropping on the audio side and video side is starting to dominate.
It's pretty nuts what's happening on YouTube now.
And that's why my concern is, coming into this next year, We're all laughing, going, haha, Comcast is selling MSNBC. And it's like, bro, Comcast is going to turn around and say, we're launching a billion-dollar Endeavor into the podcasting space.
And they can walk into YouTube's executive office and say, how much money to cut all of these independent players out and give us the premium space?
We'll tell you this, YouTube.
You have a guarantee from us that all of the shows that run through our network will never violate advertisers and will get premium CPMs, which you get a cut on.
And they're going to be like, deal.
No longer does YouTube have to worry about demonetizing or dealing with some person saying a bunch of racial slurs.
They're going to be like, yeah, we'd rather just cut a deal.
ryan james girdusky
So they're not going to have Joy Reid on.
Yeah, probably not her.
tim pool
My fear is, I don't know that it's guaranteed, but there is a strong probability that YouTube will easily give corporate interest benefit to the big networks who buy in because they already did in the past.
In 2018, there was this fake news that was released accusing a bunch of different YouTubers of being part of a nefarious network that was aligned with white supremacy.
They claimed that this guy, Chris Raygun, for instance, who doesn't really make videos anymore.
He did video game and humor content, had collaborated with Richard Spencer.
The two had never met.
Didn't matter.
YouTube lost its mind and immediately removed all of the channels from the recommendation algorithm.
Instantly, every one of these channels that was either on the right or the left saw all of their channel recommendations turn into Fox and MSNBC or CNN.
So if you were a liberal leaning creator, YouTuber, and you make a video before 2018, you would see on the right side a whole bunch of your other videos.
After this PR campaign and adpocalypse, it turned into nothing but Fox News.
If you went to Joe Rogan, it would be Joe Rogan and Fox News.
ryan james girdusky
And the autoplay is a big part of...
tim pool
Exactly.
That was largely it, too.
When we would go into our analytics, you would see...
So here's a graph showing all the recommendations, and then this one day happened, and it all dropped down from like 18% to like 2%.
ryan james girdusky
Wow.
tim pool
So I've seen them do this.
And I tell you, I believe strongly when they're talking about Murdoch, the Murdoch family wanted to be in the podcasting space and Disney, Comcast may nuke MSNBC, but what that really means is they're going to come to the space right now, and you've heard the liberal channels on YouTube screaming, why aren't we getting funding from this?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
The Democratic Party is going to reassess and they're going to say, why didn't our media mechanism work?
And they're going to say, because people are on YouTube.
And then they're going to look to these liberal creators and say, how much money do we have to pay them to say our message?
And those people are going to take the money in two seconds.
And they're going to go to YouTube and say...
Our network guarantees this, that, or otherwise.
We're part of MSNBC or CNN, so you know it's safe.
Already, if you go to YouTube and you search news, you're only getting cable TV YouTube channels.
This is going to happen to podcasters in the next year or two, maybe three, but it's coming, and I think people got to be prepared for that.
They're not going to allow...
I am a mixed race high school dropout from the south side of Chicago who, through sheer brute force, built a show by just working 16 hour days.
And I guarantee you powerful interests are sitting there looking at me being like, this guy helped Trump win.
ryan james girdusky
Right.
tim pool
He was talking to moderates the whole time saying Trump is the guy and he helped cause this election.
We need to shut out people like him.
And I see that coming.
ryan james girdusky
Well, it's not even just people like you who are explicitly conservative.
But what about all the comedians?
tim pool
I'm not explicitly conservative.
ryan james girdusky
Sorry, explicitly political, I'm going to say.
What are all the comedian podcasters who never talked really about politics that much who had Trump on their network?
tim pool
They're going to fall in line in two seconds.
ryan james girdusky
100%.
tim pool
These comedians largely refused to endorse Donald Trump until it became obvious in the public sphere that, like, with the Bud Light and Target thing, they said, we can see the writing on the wall.
We're shifting over.
The Democratic Party and the neolib, neocon establishment political forces are probably saying those people will fall in line if we can maintain a dominant, like a ubiquity in culture.
Independent voices rising up and dominating.
Trump being a weird underdog anti-establishment billionaire was weird.
They didn't want him to win.
But now he owns the narrative.
He owns the popularity contest.
They've got to reverse that.
they're going to put billions into the space to make sure and it's going to be really easy.
They won't ban us.
They're not going to go to YouTube and say, ban that guy.
They're going to go to YouTube and say, we'd like to run a $100 million ad campaign.
Then the only thing you're ever going to see is the is the the podcast individual personalities that appear authentic, authentic because they were cast to do so.
It will work for the average person to be entertaining.
It will have substantially more marketing and backing.
It will be more appealing to individuals getting into the space.
And then they're going to have bosses and those bosses are going to say, look, we know you're deeply concerned about those issues right here, but we really do think this this news is more important and they're going to push people in the direction they want them to go.
Then you're going to get corporate press orange man bad all over again and it'll be YouTube.
ryan james girdusky
I think part of the CNN numbers and the MSNBC numbers also do with the fact that when Trump won the one period but won the popular vote and that narrative was taken from them that it was the Electoral College and they stole it from you, yada, yada, yada.
I think a lot of Democrats and progressives sat there and just, like, I need to chill out.
I need no more news.
I need to sit there and sit.
There's no, like, major protest.
There's no resist libs like there was in 2016. But they will be back.
They will be looking for a voice.
And if there is no Rachel Maddow show the way it is now, there will be somebody else who will sit there and do it for them in whatever platform they do.
phil labonte
Yeah, political activism isn't done just because...
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, no, no, exactly.
phil labonte
And when it comes to the left, like, they...
Have they worked very hard to get the gains that they've made, and they may have gone a little too far in the past 10 years or whatever, but that doesn't mean that they still don't want all the stuff, all of the initiatives that they've started and pushed a little too far on, they'll back up a little bit.
And then they'll go ahead and start going again.
ryan james girdusky
So I have a substack called the National Poppies Newsletter, and I just wrote about this.
There is—in the states, right, in 2017, right, when Trump won, New York had a Republican state Senate.
Washington state did.
A lot of states had—Connecticut was tied.
They had a lot of—a lot of very blue states had Republican legislatures that held a lot of craziness.
unidentified
Minnesota.
raymond g stanley-jr
Pennsylvania did.
ryan james girdusky
Pennsylvania did.
Minnesota did.
Michigan did.
All of that was lost over the last eight years, especially in the 2018 wave.
So the politics looks a lot crazier because in blue states that were already nuts, there was at least a few Republican control levers.
That all went away.
And that's why it looks completely insane now.
And that's why the politics, as you said before, will be even further because they have nothing left in any of these places.
tim pool
I have to ask you your expertise on this as we're in the subject.
But CNN has been accused of trying to moderate by bringing on voices like yours for the period that you were on.
ryan james girdusky
Five and one quarter episodes, yeah.
tim pool
Five and one quarter episodes?
So, you know, so CNN, their ratings are in the gutter, and what everyone's basically saying is that they're realizing that this echo chamber of leftist liberal worldview is costing them viewership, and they have to moderate.
So they seek out personalities like yourself or Scott Jennings.
Is that...
How you feel it happened, or is that factually just what happened?
ryan james girdusky
Like, yes, you're allowed to go on, like, specifically Abby's show, which is two-on-two.
It's usually, like, three-on-one, because the one other Republican is usually a person who hates Donald Trump, or, like, is a former Republican.
Or somebody who is basically mentally ill at this point and they're just on the way out mentally.
I've been on episodes like that.
And the host is rooting against you.
The host is trying to shut you down.
I don't think I ever really ever got a full sentence out on that show.
And on the other show, too, everything is built...
You get the script of what you're going to sit there and talk about, and it's why Donald Trump is the devil, why he is Hitler, and why all whites are racist.
And you're like, okay, that's what I'm talking about.
All right, let me get my talking points ready.
And then like 30 minutes before the show, they said, actually, we scraped this, and we're actually doing a completely different setup.
And yeah, be ready, and you have 90 seconds to speak on every issue, and we're going to interrupt you 30 times while you're doing it.
tim pool
But why do the show then?
ryan james girdusky
I mean, I thought it was fun.
I mean, I had a blast.
It was fun because I got to sit there and say, yeah, to Van Jones, yeah, BLM was the worst thing that ever happened in the 2020 at the Democratic Party.
I talked about the George Floyd effect, which was the first thing that ever went viral when Abby sat there and said it didn't exist.
phil labonte
That was ridiculous.
ryan james girdusky
Yes, and I sat there in a room full of race activists who said that they had never heard the term, and Abby, who wrote it for the Washington Post 10 years prior, was like, that's not true.
She wrote it.
She wrote the Washington Post story.
tim pool
She's just lying to you.
ryan james girdusky
Because it's not about truth.
It's about narrative.
unidentified
Yes.
ryan james girdusky
So to sit there and to break the narrative a little bit more and be really emboldened in breaking the narrative, joke aside, the episode that I was kicked off for, the last part of that episode was supposed to be like a how accurate is the media featuring Brian Stelter.
unidentified
Oh.
ryan james girdusky
Who is like, and I was just like, I was like breaking out in hives going there.
I was hot walking into the chair, and I was like, I'm going to sit there and be like, Brian Seltzer, you're a liar.
Like, you lie all the time.
I was like, I'm doing my last show on CNN. I know I'll never get cast back, not for that reason, but for the beeper reason.
But I really went in there saying, no, this is a complete lie, but I wanted to sit there and fight the narrative over certain things and let it not be dominated.
Is he evil?
tim pool
He's evil.
I will say that he is an evil man.
He knows he is lying and he is doing it because he's got nefarious...
ryan james girdusky
I think he loves being on camera.
I met him.
I did a show with him.
unidentified
He loves, loves, loves being on camera.
ryan james girdusky
I think that's a big driver for him.
But this is the guy who brought Stormy Daniels lawyer and was like, you should be president 150 times.
And he's about accuracy in the media.
And why is the media have no integrity?
And they can never look at themselves.
And they have these bloated salaries.
Yeah, they have a few good people at CNN.
I love Scott.
I've never met him, but he was great.
Sir Michael Singleton's great.
There are a few people.
None of them have their own shows.
None of them have their own platforms.
We all live at the behest of liberals who sometimes are nonpartisan, but you're only allowed to say certain things.
And that's when they sit there and they're like, this is unacceptable.
You're unacceptable for this.
You're unacceptable for that.
And they shut them down.
Schermichael said biological, I think he said something like biological sex is real.
Or he said a man, men in women's bathrooms or whatever he said.
And he said they were like, you're transphobic.
The guy accused him being transphobic right then and there.
tim pool
There was that segment where the guy's like, stop.
Oh, I won't hear it.
ryan james girdusky
Stop.
tim pool
Stop.
ryan james girdusky
That was the segment.
Yes.
Yeah.
And then Abby made an apology on the part of Shermichael.
You are always in...
You're allowed to run in that lane, and so sometimes it's great because you get to fight against it, but...
tim pool
This is why...
ryan james girdusky
This is why they're all dying, though.
tim pool
This is why they're all dying, because, to be honest, if you went on a podcast and you had some dude basically trying to defend, you know, terrorism or whatever was going on, and then you made the beeper joke...
Every podcast is going to be laughing and they're going to be like, oh, we got to book that guy.
The cable network's like, get him out!
Get him out!
And it's like, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
ryan james girdusky
A lot of comedians ask me after that.
tim pool
Oh, do they really?
ryan james girdusky
Yeah.
tim pool
But it was like, it was a quick-witted and funny response to the constant barrage of you're a Nazi.
And then they immediately feigned victimhood of...
You're saying I should die?
ryan james girdusky
To a Nazi from a guy who called non-Muslims animals.
All gays were pedophiles.
All non-Muslims were animals and horrendous things about the Jews.
And then in his, like, British accent, as he's bloating his chest, they're saying, you know, Donald Trump uses the language of Joseph Goebbels.
I'm like, fuck.
Off, excuse my language, but like, I mean like, you probably sat there and used that same language your whole life.
I mean like, give me a break and that's why I kind of like lost it.
tim pool
You know the story of Amber Duke?
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, Amber's a good friend of mine.
tim pool
She walked off the show.
ryan james girdusky
Yes, for that episode from when I was on, yeah.
tim pool
She was called a Nazi.
ryan james girdusky
That Looney Tune.
tim pool
Whatever her name is.
ryan james girdusky
Yes.
tim pool
And this lady.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah.
tim pool
She loves it.
I called her that.
And she was like, I'm not going to sit here and be called a Nazi.
And then, you know, the long story short of it is I guess they no longer have that woman on the show.
ryan james girdusky
Amber works for the network.
I think Amber said on your podcast that the other lady was booked on another show over Amber who works for the network.
That is crazy.
I don't know why they give people those platforms.
I've done Piers Morgan and sometimes he has people on.
I'm like, is there an insane asylum that's just a rotating door?
tim pool
You ever see the movie Invasion with Nicole Kidman?
ryan james girdusky
No, but I can get the gist from the title.
tim pool
Astronaut comes back to Earth infected by some fungus.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah.
tim pool
And then when you go to sleep, your hormones while you sleep activate the fungus and then turn you into a hive-mined alien creature.
Like, you look human and everything, but you're, like, emotionless.
And they vomit on other people to convert them.
That's what it feels like is happening.
ryan james girdusky
But how many of these people have ever worked either in A, real journalism, or B, political, like, work...
That talk about politics.
Very, very, very few.
They have no expertise on the issue.
They're trying to create viral moments to create the dot-com economy and really milk it.
And that's why – as long as your business is built on feigning outrage or making people angry or anxiety-ridden, you have to go further every single time.
There's no end in sight.
raymond g stanley-jr
So they're the epitome of talking heads.
They don't have any sources, but they don't have any foundations.
ryan james girdusky
They don't have any foundations.
raymond g stanley-jr
They don't have any foundations against them, and they don't know what they're talking about.
ryan james girdusky
Talking heads used to be people who had a job, and now they're like 60, or they're retired, or they wrote a bunch of books, or whatever.
That's not these people.
These people are like 23, and are like, I have an opinion to give...
Like, okay, but they're building their entire economy on either being very charismatic or good-looking and knowing absolutely nothing and having no work experience behind it.
So it's very concerning if they get massive audiences.
And that's what they said about the right with Trump.
They said, oh, look at those people listening to him.
But at least they were funny and they were interesting.
A lot of them were comedians.
These people are saying craziness.
Crazy nonsense and getting people, I think, emotionally and mentally disturbed.
phil labonte
I mean, that's been kind of the ammo for 10 years.
Look at the reaction to Trump getting elected in 2016. Where is that lady now who went on her knees and screamed no?
ryan james girdusky
I want to know what happened to her.
phil labonte
That's the exact image that was in my head.
ryan james girdusky
I want to know, where is she?
phil labonte
That's something, but like what you're talking about, that's exactly what the media has been doing to the American people forever.
The idea that Donald Trump is a Nazi or that he was anything other than an aughts Democrat, like Democrat 90s and aughts Democrat, that's exactly what he was and everyone knew it.
Oprah Winfrey and all these people, Whoopi Goldberg, and he went on The View and everyone is all He went on Wendy Williams and did like relationship advice.
They all loved him.
ryan james girdusky
Oh, it's so good.
It's so good.
If you want to go on YouTube, it's so good.
Yeah, but also their economy was that he was an evil, you know, Hitler-esque person or a smart evil maniac or a fat orange retard.
And it was like living in both worlds at the same time.
phil labonte
And so they were just, it was just the media continuously doing Dumping this down people's throat.
And when society is now at the point that we talked about earlier, where everything is safetyism and, you know, children are children until they're 25, 26 or whatever, you're going to have people freaking out because the worst thing that's ever happened to them in their life is the election of Donald Trump.
ryan james girdusky
But look how many books there were.
Look at the Washington Post became financially solid.
The New York Times made tons of money.
MSNBC and standard ratings in 2017 were gigantic.
They loved it.
Do you know this expression, if God wasn't real, we'd have to make him up?
That expression?
If Donald Trump wasn't real, they would have to make him up.
phil labonte
He was the best thing that's happened to many, many news stations.
ryan james girdusky
I think for the average medium person who's not a news junkie, not a professional, not someone who listens to Joey Reed and says, wow, she's got it all going on.
But the average person who's just concerned because they're hearing news all the time that's saying this is a nutbag or whatever the case is.
I think that they're...
Part of the thing that the media did not anticipate is their exhaustion from eight years of it and the lived experience that, oh, we didn't go to World War III. Lived experience.
phil labonte
Oh, Lefty, you're welcome.
ryan james girdusky
The lived experience of Trump being president.
Yeah, of Trump being president and being like, oh, we didn't go to World War III. There was no camps.
phil labonte
Yeah, the results of the first Donald Trump presidency were very good for most people, and then you had COVID, which was actually very bad for everybody, and the...
Argument made by the left was, we can handle this.
The argument made was, Donald Trump is the reason why it was all messed up, and we can make everything better.
And we're going to have this 82-year-old.
ryan james girdusky
He's got all the ideas.
phil labonte
And everyone suffered, and everyone suffered because of the policies of the Democrats and the inflation.
Everyone suffered under that.
For a long time, you know.
All of these policies that the Democrats really, really had been championing, people saw the results and then they're like, wait a minute, Donald Trump was better.
And I don't care that you're telling me that he's racist.
I see him talking to people and he's doing it in his ham-fisted, silly...
Dancing while doing the YMCA. It's Donald Trump's way, but he doesn't seem like he hates black people.
He doesn't seem like he hates people just because they're brown.
He doesn't seem like he hates women.
Look at his chief of staff and all these people that he's appointed.
People are seeing that the lies from the left about Donald Trump are just that.
ryan james girdusky
And how many young liberals were all subset because there was no Wi-Fi in the camps that they were going to?
I would probably trigger the hell out of them.
tim pool
That's the only thing.
Well, that is funny, though, when you see all these lefties who are cheering on Luigi Mangione, assuming he is the assassin, we don't know.
And I'm just like, it is kind of funny, but it actually isn't surprising that people who are really dumb don't understand that they are cheering for a world in which they would suffer.
Because they're dumb.
ryan james girdusky
Because most people presume that prosperity is the norm.
They don't realize how, one, it's not normal in most of the world.
It's very not normal in the history of the world and how fragile it is.
phil labonte
When you listen to people make the arguments against our healthcare system, they're always comparing it to an imaginary system that's perfect.
ryan james girdusky
Right.
phil labonte
The argument isn't against—they're not comparing it to Canada's healthcare system or the healthcare system in the UK where there's actual tangible negatives.
There are bad things that happen.
Now, I'm not trying to say that the US system is better or cheaper or whatever.
ryan james girdusky
Your improvements can't be made.
phil labonte
Exactly.
But there are trade-offs, and if you had single-payer here in the U.S., there would be things that would make them unhappy about that.
So the idea that, oh, our system has these flaws, which it does, and then they're comparing it to this perfect, flawless system is something that's typical of the left when they're comparing our existing capitalist system with...
Property rights and stuff, comparing it to the utopian communism where nobody ever has to work.
ryan james girdusky
It's not real.
Yeah, exactly.
But that's what I love when they sit there and say, oh, it's white men who screwed everything up.
You know, if we had a world without white men running places, we would be X, Y, and Z. Which authoritarian country are you talking about right now?
Because it's...
Not anyone that I do not...
Point on the map.
Find the country with no white men in any executive experience.
Maybe with the exception of Japan or South Korea.
What non-authoritative country are you talking about right now?
Or one that has as much prosperity or freedom as we do?
Zero.
It's a narrative to make white people feel bad about those because the average person has never thought of that before or seen it on the outside picture.
tim pool
It's the product of our prosperity.
Right.
We as a nation have to teach the younger generations about these things, but we have these urban liberal types do not understand what the world is at all, and they think they're really smart.
They think they're smarter than you.
These people would not have...
I don't think anybody would ever make – any liberal who wants to make the argument that this statement is going to be wrong will be laughed at.
If you took your average run-of-the-mill conservative and your average run-of-the-mill liberal and dropped them both isolated in the middle of the Yukon territory far north, which one has a higher chance of survival?
raymond g stanley-jr
Definitely not the lib.
ryan james girdusky
Definitely not the lib.
tim pool
Literally no question the conservative to any degree.
You go to a rural area.
You drive around here.
Most people, 99% Trump supporters.
Not all of them.
There's like an anti-Trump flag somewhere.
Mostly.
What do they have?
They all have chickens.
So they get fresh eggs in the morning.
And I'm not saying it's the most profound thing in the world, but yo...
Did you ever see that video where the woman is like, so my friend came over to my house and she was like, uh, Kayla, why do you have lemons in your fridge?
And she goes, because I sometimes use it to cook.
And she goes, yeah, I know, but like, why do you have store-bought lemons in your fridge?
And she goes, because I cook with them.
And she goes, Kayla, you have a lemon tree outside.
And she goes, yeah, but I have the ones from the store to cook with.
And she goes, why don't you just eat the lemons outside?
And she goes, you can?
ryan james girdusky
Is this real?
tim pool
Real video.
ryan james girdusky
This was a real video.
Yeah, man.
raymond g stanley-jr
100%.
tim pool
I mean, I hope it wasn't, but I don't think it was.
ryan james girdusky
That's crazy!
tim pool
But this is true, like...
ryan james girdusky
I would love, in every school, if they taught a class in 8th grade or high school called, like, the end of the world class, which is about, like, when a civilization collapsed and what got it there, and just different ones across the world, because people don't know how easy and fragile and broken things are, and they just don't repair.
tim pool
I'll tell you what bothers me.
ryan james girdusky
What bothers you, Tim?
tim pool
What bothers me is when people come, and we have chickens, and I'll be like, hey, can you grab the eggs?
And they'll wash them.
raymond g stanley-jr
I've learned I don't wash them anymore.
tim pool
People don't understand.
ryan james girdusky
Why would you wash an eggshell?
tim pool
Because they look dirty, because they were on the ground and there's poop on them.
ryan james girdusky
But you're not eating the eggshell.
tim pool
So, people wash them off because they're like, oh, this is gross.
And then you wash off the bloom and they spoil.
You can put them in the fridge, they'll last for a long time.
But it's like, you take the eggs, they're poopy, and they have dirt, and you leave them.
You're not eating the shell, leave it alone.
Wash it when you're going to eat it, but you don't wash it before.
My point is, it's not just that.
That I'm being silly about.
But I have had people be like, we get fresh eggs right from the coop, and they'll be like, what do we have to do to eat them?
And I'll be like...
Break it open and eat it.
And they'll be like, you gotta do something to them?
And I'm like, no, you just break it open and eat it.
ryan james girdusky
What do they think happens?
tim pool
Because the eggs are all white.
They think they're cleaned and bleached and prepared.
I tell you, man, on our other property in Maryland, it kind of sucks when we moved because there's fruit all over the place.
We have pawpaw, we had cherries, we had apples, we had grapes, and we had wine berries.
And I would go out frolicking like Homer Simpson in the Land of Chocolate...
Grabbing all the berries.
Blackberries.
We had wild blackberries, black raspberry.
I can't tell you how many people that would come into the studio and I'd be like, check this out.
And I'd be grabbing it all and they'd be like, can I eat it?
And I'm like, bro, it's an apple.
Take it off the tree and bite it.
I've never done that before.
I'm like, wow, man.
These are not even necessarily liberals.
unidentified
Sorry.
tim pool
It's not even necessarily liberals.
It's people who live in cities don't know these things.
And again, I'm not pretending I'm a survivalist.
I'm just saying, based off the fact that I know you can take an apple off a tree and eat it because I watch the deer do it.
ryan james girdusky
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And that urban liberals are less likely to understand how to find water.
Society ends, yo, the cities, the water turns off in three days.
Conservatives have wells.
It's wild.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah, I was just saying that we've all been taught that.
You don't think, unless you live out in the area where there's fruit and there's plants out there, that you can actually...
You don't have to clean off your eggs.
You don't have to...
ryan james girdusky
No, I mean, I just would never...
tim pool
Preparation is required.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah, you see it pretty in the markets.
You're like, okay, what did they do to get there?
ryan james girdusky
I don't know.
That would be like cleaning off the skin from the orange.
It just would make no sense because you typically don't eat the...
tim pool
Have you seen a fresh chicken egg from a coop, brother?
ryan james girdusky
Yes.
tim pool
It's covered in chicken crap.
ryan james girdusky
Okay, but that's still...
I could see you wiping it off so it doesn't drop into the pan, but I don't see why you would wash it.
raymond g stanley-jr
Like watering it down.
tim pool
They take a cloth and water and they wipe them off.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah.
tim pool
You don't do that.
phil labonte
You're not scrubbing them.
ryan james girdusky
No, I'm talking if there's like...
raymond g stanley-jr
In a dishwasher.
ryan james girdusky
If there's like bird crap falling into your pan, you don't want that to happen.
raymond g stanley-jr
True.
ryan james girdusky
That's the only thing I'm talking about.
tim pool
My point is, it's not meant to be disrespectful, it's that they think preparation is required for a lot of these foods.
ryan james girdusky
No.
tim pool
I walk out and it's pawpaw season, like, beginning of October, and you grab it off the tree and you just rip it open and you can eat it.
I'm not a big fan of pawpaw, by the way, but...
ryan james girdusky
I'm of the assumption that like 70% of the public is either mentally ill, obese, or like completely useless.
So I just, I mean, this doesn't shock me, and maybe my 70% is low, but I mean, yeah, this checks out.
This absolutely checks out that we're washing eggs before eating them.
raymond g stanley-jr
Do you guys wash potatoes before you eat them?
From the store?
Do you go put it in the sink?
I hate making potatoes.
tim pool
Well, there's a couple ways to look at it.
If you get a fresh potato, you actually want there to be a little bit of dirt on it.
This is actually a source of a lot of B vitamins, and when people start washing it off, it actually is a contributing factor to malnutrition.
Some think.
I don't know for sure.
But, you know, that's a little bit more nuanced, I suppose.
ryan james girdusky
Do you wash your chicken before you cook it?
raymond g stanley-jr
I usually take off the feathers first.
ryan james girdusky
I kill it, and then I... Okay, but you don't wash the skin.
raymond g stanley-jr
The skin.
phil labonte
I saw those beans.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah, people wash the skin.
phil labonte
Wash the chicken.
ryan james girdusky
Oh, yeah, no, I don't wash the chicken either.
raymond g stanley-jr
Certain culture does, apparently.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah.
I'm Italian, so I put olive oil and garlic in literally everything.
raymond g stanley-jr
I could have the skin.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
ryan james girdusky
In literally everything that's garlic and olive oil.
raymond g stanley-jr
Fat and skin.
tim pool
My Froot Loops?
Garlic and olive oil.
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We got the Empress Champion.
It says, Hello there.
So this is this alleged mothership thing, a balloon?
This is the second time our airspace has been violated during the Biden administration?
I'm assuming it's a boat of some sort that is launching these vessels, but honestly, I have no idea.
phil labonte
I mean, it's more than the second time if there's been multiple sightings of the, or if there's multiple of these UAV things, you know?
tim pool
Yeah.
phil labonte
I don't know.
tim pool
Quantum Strange Quark says radar should show where they're coming from.
If it's from a mothership off the coast, why hasn't the Navy destroyed it?
Something doesn't add up.
Yeah, Jeff Andrew could be wrong.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah.
tim pool
That's easy.
ryan james girdusky
That is a good point, though.
If there's a boat in the middle sending things out, they could just seize the boat.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
That's why it's kind of like, how's that?
Unless it's underwater, maybe.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
And it, like, pops up and launches a journal and goes back down.
That'd be scary.
ryan james girdusky
That would be terrifying.
phil labonte
I do think it's worth, like, the U.S. finding out, though.
Like, the military finding out where these things are.
ryan james girdusky
Do you think of all countries, Iran has that capability?
phil labonte
I don't know.
ryan james girdusky
Considering their scientists are being killed, like, once a year.
It's like the purge of scientists.
I don't know if they have that ability, but maybe they do.
tim pool
It's like the highest, it's the job with the highest mortality.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah.
tim pool
Iranian scientists.
ryan james girdusky
It's like comedians and then like Iranian scientists in that order, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, and it's like the Iranians kill their own comedians, but it's foreign adversaries killing their scientists.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah.
tim pool
All right.
JRG Project says, the drone story reminds me of Ace Combat 7's arsenal bird that deploys AI drones.
Time to fire up my F4J Phantom 2. The old school fighters are the best.
No idea.
ryan james girdusky
I don't know what that is.
phil labonte
Ace Combat was a fun game.
tim pool
Acularis says the Pentagon denied that the drones are from Iran.
Aliens?
That proves it!
They're aliens.
raymond g stanley-jr
Got them.
tim pool
There's no other explanation, and that's it.
That's it.
Matthew C. Kirshner says, well, alien invasion is the next 9-11, they said.
Who's they?
raymond g stanley-jr
Though.
tim pool
It'd be funny if it was aliens.
You know, because we were supposed to get aliens a few years ago and they never came.
Then they claimed that aliens were going to come last week and they didn't.
ryan james girdusky
Aliens are always going to the places that no one wants to visit, though.
There's zero chance that these people...
Why are every video of an alien spaceship taken out of a phone from 2003?
Every single one is literally a phone from 2003's video quality of an alien spaceship.
unidentified
Yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
Because they got a zoom in on it, maybe?
ryan james girdusky
I don't know what it is.
tim pool
It could be zoom.
ryan james girdusky
It could be zoom, but every one of them?
raymond g stanley-jr
They look like jacks, apparently, too.
ryan james girdusky
I don't know.
I don't...
I'm not...
I'm not a big believer in the alien.
tim pool
Well, Pinochet's helicopter tour says radar requires things to be at a certain altitude.
Oh, there you go.
raymond g stanley-jr
There you go.
tim pool
Mechanical mercenary, we did read this one, but he said they're manned and supposedly pivotal aero units doing military testing.
Can't shoot around pilots down.
I think there's a possibility.
That seems likely.
There was a funny story where people reported seeing UFOs.
And the news, unironically, I can't remember which outlet said, unironically said, the sightings come just 70 miles away from an advanced aerospace technological base for the Navy.
And I'm like, what?
So it's completely explained and we know exactly what it is.
ryan james girdusky
Come on, guys.
unidentified
Duh.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah.
It's like that video from Mississippi where they saw the leprechaun.
tim pool
Oh, was it just like nothing in the tree and they were pointing at it or whatever?
ryan james girdusky
The greatest internet video ever made.
tim pool
There was a viral trend on Twitter a long time ago where everybody started posting videos randomly of military vehicles on...
Military personnel in the streets, military vehicles driving through cities, trains carrying tanks, and they were all in on this decentralized gag where they would find any photo from anywhere in the country, post it, and claim it was one town.
And it went viral, started trending.
And there were people who actually believed there was this big military operation happening in some town.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, it doesn't shock me.
tim pool
Those were the days of the internet, man.
raymond g stanley-jr
Wild West.
tim pool
Those were the good old days of the Wild West internet.
Now it's all boring.
ryan james girdusky
All apps.
tim pool
No websites.
What's going on, huh?
phil labonte
I've heard people say that web-based things are coming back and they want to see an end to apps because it's become ridiculous.
ryan james girdusky
How many apps do you have to download?
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah.
ryan james girdusky
You remember when you used to have to type in your Facebook password to pay your mortgage?
It was literally like you had to click on everything, either a Gmail password or a Facebook password.
What?
phil labonte
Why?
I never did any of that stuff with Facebook or Gmail.
ryan james girdusky
I couldn't understand how to do one.
That was a very frustrating moment.
phil labonte
Yeah, I wouldn't want Google or Facebook involved with my mortgage payment at all, ever.
It's plenty for me to be dealing with the bank.
I'm all set.
That's enough.
raymond g stanley-jr
It's kind of where they have the third party of someone like that to have involvement into your payments.
phil labonte
Absolutely not.
ryan james girdusky
And you have to find all the parking lights in order to sit there and get into your bank account.
I'm like, is this really stopping everything?
phil labonte
Well, they wanted that because Google was teaching AI. All the Captcha stuff was teaching AI. What were they teaching AI? They were teaching AI how to identify things.
Every time you solved the CAPTCHA, it was actually being recorded.
ryan james girdusky
It was all the same.
There's a stop sign, a train, a bike, a car, a boat.
phil labonte
It was teaching AI to identify.
raymond g stanley-jr
Sidewalk.
The crosswalk was the one, I remember.
phil labonte
It's teaching AI. It's everybody helping to teach AI to identify pictures and stuff.
ryan james girdusky
Do you think that that's part of why Elon bought Twitter, was to teach Grok people's likes?
tim pool
Yep.
phil labonte
I think that most of the AI stuff that Tesla is doing, or information they get...
I'm sure that Tesla's...
Twitter is a massive, massive database, so he has access to all the tweets and stuff like that.
But most of the teaching of the AI comes from full self-driving.
All the Tesla cars that report back to Tesla, they all are helping to teach the AI.
All the full self-driving and all that stuff goes back to Tesla, and they use that to teach AI.
tim pool
One of the first arguments was that X is the best form of communication between a Mars-based civilization.
That if there's an effective means to communicate that doesn't require an immediate back and forth, the 20 minutes it would take to send a tweet is no issue because the way you communicate on Twitter is like thought, and then it just goes out.
ryan james girdusky
So that's why I was communicated to and from Mars basically.
tim pool
Yeah, basically if someone lived on Mars and was tweeting, you'd have a constant connection with them despite the fact it took 20 minutes to send and receive.
ryan james girdusky
So like a Martian would be like, do we use the hard R or no?
tim pool
Right, exactly.
Or they might say, like, we're not on Earth, so you can't cancel us anyway.
Alright, another YouTube channel says, a few months ago I was driving at night and saw three car-sized drones flying single file lower than I would have expected.
Kind of freaked me out.
Near Folsom, CA. Well, that proves it.
It was Bigfoot.
ryan james girdusky
Isn't that being in the prison?
phil labonte
Yes.
tim pool
Bigfoot flying around in spacecraft.
Bigfoot was an alien.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
Dark Elhan says, Gloucester County NJ, fire has radio traffic from a medevac helicopter about drones in Hammondtown, New Jersey.
Yeah, the report is that they were blocked by it.
That this helicopter was trying to move and then the drones were swarming around so they couldn't.
ryan james girdusky
But the drones are probably the same, almost the same size as the helicopter.
tim pool
Yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
They're an SUV size, yeah.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, that's...
tim pool
That's why it's weird to say they're drones.
Just call them drones.
I don't know.
ryan james girdusky
And there's no way that they had a pilot inside them?
raymond g stanley-jr
I don't know.
tim pool
Well, someone said they did.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, because if they had a pilot inside them and you shot it down, then that's an act of war, possibly.
I mean, so I can see why you wouldn't want to shoot down a piloted plane.
raymond g stanley-jr
But also, they're so...
They should be a different name then.
Like, if they're drones, because drones you don't think of.
I mean, I've seen them do pesticides before, and they're not drone-sized.
They're, like, the smart car size, but they're not, you know, big SUV-sized, so they get big.
ryan james girdusky
People think that thing that drops the Amazon box off.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah, they're definitely not tiny all the time.
ryan james girdusky
I'm waiting for one of those boxes to, like, kill the family dog, because they dropped it on Amazon.
raymond g stanley-jr
Like a heavy box.
ryan james girdusky
I'm waiting for that to happen on video, and that will be the end of those things flying around for a while.
tim pool
Alright, what do we got here?
Sam T says, guys, come on.
You are all intelligent and know your history.
Nothing happens in the U.S. skies without the knowledge of one of the agencies running on a black budget.
What does it say?
F117B2U2 were all born there.
The tech is only 40 years ahead.
The tech is 40 years ahead.
raymond g stanley-jr
I mean, yeah, I think we're fucking America.
ryan james girdusky
That should be our logo.
That should be our motto underneath entering the United States.
Yeah, we're fucking America.
raymond g stanley-jr
I would think that we have the radars and everything detectable to see anyone coming.
ryan james girdusky
They're definitely, I think that they know.
I have zero doubt in our abilities.
I think that they know, they're just not saying.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah.
phil labonte
I tend to remember.
tim pool
Okay, Brian M says, why no talk about Israel expanding its empire in Syria and beyond?
Christians will be stomped.
What's Israel?
I've never heard of that place.
Is that prominent in the media, perhaps?
Anyone?
phil labonte
The chat is going to be on fire now.
tim pool
These small, irrelevant countries we are not familiar with, I'm sorry, I have no comment.
I don't know.
We talked about Syria the other day.
I don't know what more we have to add.
The U.S., Israel and Turkey have been launching strikes in Syria.
Syria's government collapsed.
It's going to get really, really bad for the people who live there.
phil labonte
I guess there were some strikes.
Israel struck Syria's navy and took it out, took a large portion of it out.
And people are like, oh, you know, why did they do that?
Blah, blah, blah.
It's like, look, man, if Syria has actually been taken over by former al-Qaeda terrorists and they're going to restart ISIS, the Islamic State, if it's actually going to be that, do you really want them to be able to project force in the Mediterranean?
I don't think anyone wants that.
tim pool
And as everyone knows, Israel has never done anything wrong, ever.
Absolutely perfect country, the bastion of good nature.
raymond g stanley-jr
You kick them when they're down, too.
ryan james girdusky
I also...
I don't know enough about Syria to sit there and make informed conversations.
I know the WNBA and Syria are almost on the same level for me, so I'm not going to really be jumping into this one.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah.
tim pool
Alright, we got Legoma says, what if Altist has been talking about the revolt of incels for a while now?
raymond g stanley-jr
Yes, he has.
tim pool
Indeed.
And technically, his counter, we were wrong, it probably is closer to like seven.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah, I heard yesterday.
tim pool
Rudyard Lynch is a YouTuber, what if Altist, and he made a bet.
ryan james girdusky
His name is what?
tim pool
Rudyard.
ryan james girdusky
Rudyard Altist.
Okay, I don't know that.
tim pool
Rudyard Lynch.
ryan james girdusky
Okay.
tim pool
And his YouTube channel is What If Alt History.
He said that by April, 1,000 people in the United States will be dead due to domestic political violence.
ryan james girdusky
Okay.
tim pool
I don't agree.
ryan james girdusky
Only 1,000 people are...
tim pool
At least.
ryan james girdusky
Okay.
And so he said— People have been killed after the Trump election.
There was that guy in Minnesota who did kill his whole family.
Right.
tim pool
And then there was the woman who killed her dad.
There is the CEO, obviously, politically motivated, so we believe right now.
And then there was a woman who was killed in—someone swatted Marjorie Taylor Greene.
The bomb squad crashed into the car killing the woman, so that counts as a politically motivated death.
So it is like seven.
And the response from a lot of people is either it's ridiculous to assume that maybe people are going to die— Others are saying, wait till January 20th when Trump starts rubber stamping these exact numbers.
ryan james girdusky
When is the date of this 1,000 number?
tim pool
By April.
ryan james girdusky
April.
So there's like five months.
tim pool
Or did he say end of April?
phil labonte
I'm not sure if he said by April.
ryan james girdusky
There's between four to five months for this 1,000 number, and that's seven right now.
phil labonte
Look, man, if there's 900...
Dead on April 1, I'm going to be like, look, man, maybe it's not 1,000, but it's looking pretty close.
tim pool
Not only that, I was saying if 200, he may lose the bet, but we understand his point.
He said Donald Trump's going to win...
Historically, we can see the parallels as to what's going to happen between these ideologies, and he thinks that civil war is likely, but people misunderstand what civil wars are.
They think American civil war every single time, and I agree with him on this point.
He said, are there going to be standing armies from various states lining up against other factions?
No, of course not, but Obama will go off in Chicago.
ryan james girdusky
But they didn't happen in 2017. It's a different world.
I think you overestimate how many people play sports versus watch it and say we won when they're eating a box of Cheetos.
tim pool
That's actually a really good point for a Civil War.
ryan james girdusky
No, because most of them are not going to do anything.
tim pool
You're right.
They don't need to be.
The sport is played by a small amount of people.
ryan james girdusky
I think you overestimate the laziness of most people.
tim pool
I think you overestimate the requirement of population to destabilize a country.
raymond g stanley-jr
You need a small amount of people to have a revolution or anything.
ryan james girdusky
Yes, that is correct.
In cities like New York and Washington, a very small percentage of the population make up a majority of homicides.
That is 100% true.
But civilization doesn't fall apart afterwards.
raymond g stanley-jr
No one said it's falling apart.
ryan james girdusky
Didn't they say civilization would fall apart?
tim pool
No, civil war.
ryan james girdusky
A civil war would happen?
tim pool
But his point is...
ryan james girdusky
So it would be more like Northern Ireland than the American Civil War.
tim pool
That would be like a heavy civil strife period.
Academics believe we are in a civil strife period already.
So this is left and right different academics.
And then they blame each other.
Like, the left is the right fault, the right is the left.
Right.
But—so either we resolve the civil strife, which has happened in the past too, but if it escalates beyond this, then the academics—the scale is the period we're in now, which has—I think Stephen Marsh said civil strife is defined as 70 politically motivated deaths per year, which we exceed greatly.
And that would be— What are we at?
Well above that.
ryan james girdusky
I don't know the exact number, but— Okay, I don't know the—yeah, okay.
tim pool
The problem I have with that assessment is that— The politically motivated deaths are wildly disparate.
It's like I understand if you are saying it's civil strife because you have the anti-abortion and pro-abortion factions and they're fighting and you're like 70 people died in the abortion conflict.
That's going to bubble up.
But right now the politically motivated deaths are like this guy's a sovereign citizen.
That guy hates the Jews.
ryan james girdusky
This guy thinks— He's a black nationalist or a white nationalist.
tim pool
Right, right.
ryan james girdusky
They're all different.
70 deaths in a nation of, I guess, 50 million is a lot, but 70 deaths in a nation of 350 million is quite different.
tim pool
I think it's us.
When political tension gets this hot that we see this many instances popping up.
But again, I don't know if I agree.
unidentified
However...
tim pool
The idea of civil war, like a lot of people, what they do is they look at the American Civil War and they're like, well, when the states start lining up against each other, and that's never been any civil war ever except for the United States.
So usually what happens is urban factions rise up.
They take control of urban elements and that's all you see.
Then a conflict arises between rural elements and the rural elements tend to cut off the urban centers because they can't survive.
And then conflict starts popping up until it reaches ahead and then you get people going crazy.
So if you look at like Syria, for instance, it didn't start as a civil war.
It started with like 13 different factions of protest groups going around, refusing and blocking streets, and then Assad starts shooting people.
Then he says, but there were terrorists attacking us.
And then what do we get several years later?
ISIS, Al-Qaeda, and Islamists.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, but you also had a lot of other countries invested in that civil war.
tim pool
That always happens, too.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah.
You had a lot of countries sitting there and saying funneling arms and weapons and money, including the United States.
tim pool
And this is absolutely a component of what may happen in the United States is I think the true civil strife period would be what Red Yard is describing.
If we see bombs going off in cities like Chicago or whatever, and we get to that point, I would say that's strife.
And then if we see intervention on the part of any foreign adversary to a certain faction, now you're starting to get into that territory of where this could be a real civil war.
But I'm not thinking that's likely anytime soon.
ryan james girdusky
I don't think that's likely.
tim pool
A thousand deaths is kind of like, you know, that's a wild prediction to make.
But you bet a thousand bucks on it.
ryan james girdusky
He did?
raymond g stanley-jr
I mean, it's not a lot of money either.
He's fine.
ryan james girdusky
Is he like, is that a lot of money?
raymond g stanley-jr
Like we bet a dollar, you know?
ryan james girdusky
Okay.
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's grab some more.
We got Eagle Eyes.
It says, That could be it.
We could be misinterpreting the news as he was in pain so he couldn't bang, when in actuality, he said he had numbness.
raymond g stanley-jr
Did you just rhyme?
tim pool
No, no, this is true.
According to the story, he had numbness down there, and maybe he was saying, like, uh-oh, I can't feel anything.
ryan james girdusky
He couldn't feel anything, yeah.
And he had no enjoyment of using a turkey baster, so...
tim pool
That's right.
ryan james girdusky
That's what you did.
phil labonte
Gross.
tim pool
Maybe that's why he's mad.
raymond g stanley-jr
He felt the pain.
phil labonte
Jeez.
tim pool
Man.
raymond g stanley-jr
Shout out to anybody.
tim pool
Dryden54 says, does anyone actually think a Manhattan jury will convict this guy?
Which guy?
raymond g stanley-jr
Which guy?
ryan james girdusky
Oh, Luigi.
Yes, a Manhattan jury would convict that guy.
phil labonte
Yeah, I feel like he would.
ryan james girdusky
Unless they were from Hell's Kitchen or Staten Island.
unidentified
If it was everybody from Brooklyn.
ryan james girdusky
Certain pockets, but if it's a disparate...
I had to do jury duty in New York and it was absolutely like the meetings of every insane person you could possibly run into on a day in New York City and that was...
It was great.
phil labonte
All the smart people get out of it because they figure out how.
ryan james girdusky
Well, one Jewish lady was like, she told me, she's like, I think if the cops do something, they're always right.
And you know what?
I'll probably be in jail at the end of the day for saying that out loud.
And I was like, lady, I didn't ask you for your opinions.
I mean, like, I'm just here like you are.
tim pool
This is a really funny point.
30JD says, Tim Ryan, it's ironic to say 25-year-olds have the minds of children, but my fiancé's second graders have racial, sexual, and physical minds of 25-year-olds.
ryan james girdusky
That's really well put.
tim pool
Yep.
ryan james girdusky
That is really, really well put.
No, but they have the life experience of that.
And when does a brain fully develop?
Is it 25?
25, yeah.
24, 25. Yeah, but I don't understand when adults look at kids like they are all-knowing beings and we're going to just mess them up.
And you're like, no, they don't know what the colors are.
Like, this is not, they're not, this is not Yoda as a little person.
tim pool
You know what it is, is that a lot of these liberal activists don't have kids and have not interacted with kids.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah.
tim pool
And they've never had the experience of a parent saying shit, and then the kid starts going, shit, shit, and they're like, oh, stop saying, oh, man.
ryan james girdusky
Remember when JD told, when JD was like, he's like, when this kid was like talking about Pokemon when he's on the call with Trump, and he's like, shut the hell up.
And people were liberals like, how could he say it to a child?
I'm like, yeah, seven-year-old.
Sometimes you say shut the hell up to them.
I'm like, It happens.
It absolutely happens.
tim pool
Yeah.
Kids, you gotta tell them, be quiet.
I don't know what to tell you.
But these are the people who don't have kids and never experienced kids.
And if they do, they're the kind of people that will be in a restaurant with their kids screaming and they'll be like, your problem, not mine.
ryan james girdusky
Or the people who negotiate with their children who are under five.
That makes me...
And you're at a friend's house and you want to tell them, like, you need to do something about your kid because I'm going to kill myself of being around.
Like, I have never disliked a four-year-old so much in my life.
If you ask them, like, how do you want to go to the car?
No, just pick him up and drag him.
tim pool
What you should do is, when you have a friend come over to your house and they bring their four-year-old and the four-year-old's acting up, instead of just making it awkward and saying stuff, just pull out a muzzle and a leash.
Be like, this is a gift for you.
You can deal with your child.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, but you know the problem is that liberals take everything literally, and so they're going to be like, Tim Paul thinks the children should be muzzled and leashed.
phil labonte
They make legitimate leashes for kids.
They do.
They don't have to go around the neck.
If you go to the airport, it's a harness, and you can hook them up and, you know, just...
raymond g stanley-jr
And you get like 25 feet like leeway or whatever, 10 feet, and then it stops.
We're afraid I'm oriented here.
ryan james girdusky
Why would you want a four year old 25 feet leeway?
raymond g stanley-jr
That's like a mass destruction.
tim pool
I'd switch it to 10. Give him 10. I wouldn't ever do the leash thing, but I can certainly understand like in an airport where it's very crowded, you'd be kind of concerned about it.
But I think the problem is people have too much stranger danger phobia, where they think the world's ending and your kid's gonna get snatched.
ryan james girdusky
I get like – okay, that's not the problem.
The problem is people who do not believe in any level of discipline for their child at any age.
That is a far bigger problem.
I shouldn't be at a – I've been at tables with people that I know and their kid is screaming at the top of their lungs and they're just like just pretending it's not happening.
How?
Like, how am I pretending it's not happening?
tim pool
You gotta get the water bottle and go...
raymond g stanley-jr
I mean, I grew up with the wooden spoon.
My mom loves wooden spoon.
ryan james girdusky
My grandmother loved that wooden spoon.
tim pool
I think a spritzer bottle is more humane.
It is.
It sends the message, but it doesn't leave a welt.
raymond g stanley-jr
And you don't break the spoon on your person's head.
ryan james girdusky
They never broke the spoon, but yeah.
tim pool
Works on my cat.
And the cat stops chewing on stuff.
raymond g stanley-jr
Well, leather.
I hear a cat likes leather.
tim pool
Yep.
Oh, Allison told you about Seamus eating her purse?
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah.
Ate the purse.
tim pool
Yeah, the cat is chewing on all the leather.
So he chewed through the purse strap and now it's duct taped back together.
Aren't cats fun?
Everybody loves cats.
raymond g stanley-jr
Damn Seamus.
tim pool
Yep, yep.
We are launching a new coffee called Luck of the Seamus.
unidentified
Oh, nice.
tim pool
Yeah, it's for...
Seamus 1. Well, no, it's Seamus 2. Oh, okay, Seamus 2. Yeah, but on the back, Seamus 1...
So Seamus 2 is the cartoonist.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
And so it's Freedom Tunes art and it's an Irish cream.
ryan james girdusky
Why'd you name Seamus?
tim pool
Why did we name the cat Seamus?
After our friend Seamus.
ryan james girdusky
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Seamus Coughlin, the cartoonist.
ryan james girdusky
Oh, okay.
tim pool
But actually, we decided to give Seamus—the cat is Seamus 1, and the cartoonist is Seamus 2. Got it, okay.
And there's a Seamus 3 now.
ryan james girdusky
Seamus is, like, very common, like, with Irish people.
I have Seamuses in my family, but, like, I don't know ever anyone who's not Irish who, like, names their families.
Someone's Seamus.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, we were driving in the car and we had a name for him.
It was probably like Herman or something.
And then I jokingly said, we should call the cat Seamus.
And Allison laughed.
And Seamus goes, you guys are bad friends.
And then I was like, well, now we have to do it.
I was joking.
But then Allison was like, no, we already call him Seamus.
But I call him James now because I don't respect the Irish.
phil labonte
If you don't know this, never let on that something bothers you.
Someone's like poking at you.
tim pool
I don't think it really bothered.
I think it was joking.
But, uh, no, I do call it, his name is James.
Like, uh, Mr. Bocas, our last cat, his name was Bucko, and then it turned into a bunch of different words until we ended up with his name being Bocas.
ryan james girdusky
All right.
tim pool
Yep.
raymond g stanley-jr
Mr. Bocas, right?
tim pool
Rest in peace.
Yeah, Mr. Bocas.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah.
tim pool
It was funny, because when he was dying, we called the vet, and we told the vet that his name was Mr. Bocas, and they kept saying Bocas, and we were like, it's Mr. Bocas.
ryan james girdusky
I call him, my dog's name is Royal Tenenbaum after the movie character, but it's Royal Tenenbaum.
raymond g stanley-jr
That's a long one, too.
There you go.
ryan james girdusky
Yeah, my favorite movies.
All right.
tim pool
Korowag says, Amen.
phil labonte
Amen.
Yeah, that's not a bad idea.
raymond g stanley-jr
It's a great idea.
tim pool
Yep.
raymond g stanley-jr
Just following orders should not cut it anymore.
tim pool
We got a correction.
Sterling Wilson says, Tim, Muggsy Bogues didn't dunk.
Spud Webb was the dunk champ you're thinking of.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Bogues was 5'3", Webb was 5'7".
Let's shout out the shortest player and the shortest dunk champ in NBA history.
raymond g stanley-jr
Nice.
tim pool
Great name drops.
So, I did quickly check.
Bogues apparently did dunk in practice, but he never did in an actual game.
Likely meaning he had the capability to do it, but at a high-level play against other players, it was probably riskier to do and harder to do.
So, there you go.
raymond g stanley-jr
Are you fact-checking the Super Chats as they come in?
tim pool
No, they fact-checked me.
What do you mean?
raymond g stanley-jr
No, but then you looked up and said who it was.
That he does dunk.
tim pool
That he reportedly dunked in practice.
raymond g stanley-jr
During practice, right.
tim pool
But not in any games.
Noah Bass says, I started my first small business at eight years old, pulling trash cans every week.
I charged 50 cents per can, making nearly 500 bucks a year as a little kid.
I attribute that experience to my work ethic today.
Let me tell you what my friends would do.
We'd go to Aldi, and when people were walking out with their groceries, we would say, Excuse me, ma'am, can we take that cart back for you?
And they would go, Absolutely.
We made a quarter.
raymond g stanley-jr
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Nobody cared about the quarter, and they didn't want to walk back.
They'd be like, Dad, take it.
And then we'd collect quarters, and we would buy packs of Pokemon cards with them.
That's how you do it.
ryan james girdusky
Wow.
Back in the good old days.
tim pool
Back in the good old days, my friends.
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raymond g stanley-jr
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