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Trump 2024 WIN Predicted By Kamala's Internal Polls w/Cody Dennison | Timcast IRL
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hannah claire brimelow
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seamus coughlin
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tim pool
The honeymoon is over.
At least that's what the news organizations are saying.
Aside from the fact that Donald Trump has been continually dominating the betting odds
in Vegas and online, we're now getting the actual polls.
And internal polls.
Apparently, according to Kamala Harris and Democrats' own internal polling, yeah, she's
Now, they try to maintain this in the press by saying, no, no, it's within the margin of error.
But if we're going to track all of this based off of what we saw in 2016 and 2020, plus the midterms, then the bias certainly favors Donald Trump.
But that could also be a narrative that they want.
It's hard to know for sure.
But often they say that if you think you're going to win, you end up losing.
So everybody just needs to assume you're losing.
However, I think Trump supporters need to be optimistic.
And you need to realize that though you may be running full speed toward that finish line, Kamala Harris is right there.
Be it shadow campaign or actually just good polls and ballot harvesting, whatever it may be, you've got to run twice as hard because you can win.
So everybody's got to get out, register people to vote, get that voting done.
And we'll talk about that.
Plus, we're going to talk about what the campaigns are doing to earn favor in the final stretch of this election.
Certainly, it is already election month, which is absurd to say, but it is.
Donald Trump is promising that on your car payments, the interest, tax deductible.
Tim Walz is playing World of Warcraft.
And you know the most offensive thing about that is that World of Warcraft is not even one of the top games anymore.
It's like, come on, bro. Go play League of Legends at least.
I mean, if you played Hearthstone, I'd laugh too.
But that seems to be what they're doing.
So we'll talk about that.
Plus, FEMA's broke. And even CNN is saying Democrats made a big mistake with Elon Musk.
It's going to be a lot of fun. Before we get started, my friends, head over to castbrew.com and buy Cast Brew Coffee.
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A lot of people have been requesting the boobies.
No, not those boobies.
The boobie bird. The blue-footed boobie.
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We're selling tons of these skateboards with the blue-footed boobie bird.
And so I just...
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We sold a ridiculous amount of skateboards.
over five, I think over 600 now, which is nuts in the skateboard industry. But also don't forget,
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Cody Dennison.
unidentified
What's up?
I also have a YouTube channel that I've been running for years and everything just kind
of snowballed and every year there's something new going on and I don't even know how it
began but that's basically what I do.
tim pool
YouTube commentary and is it considered amateur racing?
unidentified
Well it's professional.
It's basically the fourth tier of NASCAR. NASCAR acquired the Arkham Menard series in 2018 to run it under their banner, introducing spec engines and stuff like that, spec bodies and whatnot.
And that's what I've been doing all year, and it's been a wild run.
And you're driving the Timcast car.
Everyone loves it. It's the wildest thing.
And I don't know if they're scared to tell me, but you'll have big teams of recognizable people that come up to me in the garage and they nudge me and they're like, man, I love your sponsor.
It's awesome. That's awesome.
tim pool
Shout out to you guys. Thank you.
I appreciate it, man. It's really cool.
unidentified
There's a lot of people and they whisper it to me.
We really like it and we hope it's back.
It's been really, really cool.
We've had a lot of good runs.
So being realistic, when you're racing in these professional sports, they're dominated
by people that are bringing in hundreds of millions of dollars, plus manufacturer support
from Toyota and Ford and whatnot.
And we're actually out there competing.
We ran eighth last week at Toledo.
We finished seventh in points, beating out a lot of these people, tenth in owner's points.
So it was really, really cool.
And the team believes in me.
So we're excited to build something real strong and go out there and win some stuff.
tim pool
It's an honor, man.
It was, you know, we go out and we hang out at a sports bar or whatever, and we see on
the TV Tim Kast's car driving on the screen.
And it's like a crazy feeling to see you out there racing.
And to see TimCast on the car, it's an honor and a privilege, sir.
So it should be fun. Thanks for hanging out.
Of course, Seamus is here.
seamus coughlin
Glad to be back, by the way.
I never got into NASCAR, but I think it's super cool.
I had no idea you were a race car driver.
That's awesome. That's awesome.
I appreciate it. Can I just ask a question or two?
I know. Well, I didn't see the back of his shirt.
So you're actually like the driver you raced the car?
Yep. That's awesome, man.
unidentified
I watched him crash. Are you serious?
seamus coughlin
How fast are you going around that track?
unidentified
Iowa, it's probably like 160 straightaways.
It's a pretty small track. It was sold out.
So the sport's growing a lot.
And we had 70,000 people in Iowa sold out for our race.
You know, the Timcast car out there.
And yeah, we wrecked, and it was my only wreck of the year.
So at least there's that.
You're going to get one somewhere.
And we were just running, and I was just running my line.
I think we were running 11th, maybe.
I don't remember. And it was like a train hit me.
It's like one of these guys came around on one of those really, really fast rides to put us a lap down.
And he just, I guess, overjudged his entry to the corner and just hit us.
And like Tim said, we got a lot of screen time.
seamus coughlin
Wow. How fast were you going?
How fast was he going and how fast were you going when you got hit?
unidentified
Same speed, roughly.
A couple mile an hour different, maybe.
seamus coughlin
That's crazy. So, like you said, like 170-ish?
140-ish, probably. 140-ish?
That's crazy. Yeah.
unidentified
And then we hit the wall and it's just, you can't explain the feeling.
seamus coughlin
Wow. Yeah, I can't imagine.
tim pool
It's like a grenade going off. Allison and I were hanging out and on the TV, we look over off in the distance and we see the Tim Kast car and we're like, hey, look.
And the next thing we know, it's on screen for like three minutes.
Yeah. Because he crashed.
Yeah. But yeah, we'll get into everything else.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, sorry about that. Sorry to derail that.
That's awesome, man. So I'm Seamus Coughlin.
I do cartoons on a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.
If you guys want to go over there and check that out, we released a cartoon on Tuesday about Kamala Harris's code switching, her many wonderful accents.
We've also got a cartoon coming out tomorrow about the horrible delayed response to the hurricane.
The irony is we were actually supposed to release that today, but because of the hurricane, we also had to Push it off.
But if you guys want to go over there, check that out.
We totally scorched Kamala for how horrible her administration and how horribly they've responded to this.
So go over there, check that out, subscribe, and I'm looking forward to a good show.
tim pool
And guess who's back? Hi, everyone.
ian crossland
I'm here. I'm back from Los Angeles.
We shot a movie out in L.A. with Snow Story Productions.
I want to give a shout-out to Austin Herring, the director, producer, and also Wes Armstrong, one of the other lead actors, and J.R. DeGuzman, the other lead actor.
Great guys. Wes is...
He's a...
What was it? A... What's that?
Vine star turned Hollywood director working with Kevin Hart.
Shortly came off of that movie and did this one with me.
And then Jared Guzman's a nationally touring comedian.
The guys are hilarious. It was so fun.
So shout out to Snow Story Productions for having me.
Looking forward to many more.
And also, God bless whoever prayed for this storm to dissipate because it did.
It came in. They thought it was going to be a Cat 5.
Smashing Tampa Bay.
And it came onto the shore as a Category 3.
The Eye of the Storm just...
It evaporated or whatever.
It just dissipated on contact with the shore so a lot of people were a lot better off than they thought they were going to be.
tim pool
It was an evil government machine that made the hurricane, but it was God that stopped it.
That's possible. I'm kidding.
Not about the God thing, but the government weather control.
But tomorrow on the Culture War podcast, youtube.com slash Tim Kest, it's going to be a ridiculous, raucous podcast discussing weather manipulation.
ian crossland
Shane Cashman talks a lot about Operation Popeye in Vietnam, where they would cede the weather to scare the enemy and stuff.
tim pool
We'll get into it. We got Hannah Claire here too.
hannah claire brimelow
Hey, I'm Hannah Claire Brimlow.
I'm very grateful for everyone in Florida and that you didn't have to go through a Cat 5 hurricane, especially with everything else that's going on.
You can find me here on this show.
Let's get started. Here we go.
tim pool
It's from the independent.co.uk.
The polls are clear.
Kamala Harris's honeymoon period is over.
In half a dozen swing states, a razor-thin margin separates Trump and Harris.
It's anyone's ballgame, but I'm going to stop right there.
The Independent is a little biased, albeit they're British, so we'll cut them some slack
because they ain't here in America.
But take a look at this from the Postmillennial.
Kamala Harris in trouble in swing states per private polling.
Quote, I just saw some new private polling today.
That's very robust private polling.
She's in a lot of trouble.
Political analyst Mark Halperin made the claim on Wednesday, saying that he has seen private
polling numbers from Democrats.
Quote, the conversation I'm having with Trump people and Democrats with data are extremely
bullish on Trump's chances in at least the last 48 hours.
Extremely bullish.
So aside from the fact that here we have Wisconsin, Harris is only up by 0.4.
Considering the bias, how about this?
Not even any bias? Margin of error.
Margin of error is going to be two to three points.
At this time, last year, Biden was up 5.5 and Clinton was up 6.8.
Mind you, Clinton actually lost the election in 2016.
And then, of course, my favorite, the betting odds.
Donald Trump, holy crap, I can't believe this.
The latest update, ladies and gentlemen, this is massive.
We're looking at, what do we have here?
7.6?
Is that the split right now?
7.6% in favor of Donald Trump in the betting odds.
So if you like Donald Trump, you're probably really happy about this.
seamus coughlin
Dude, Polymarket had him up by like 11 points or something like that.
tim pool
Is that a betting? He's up Polymarket!
He's up 11 points in Polymarket right now!
hannah claire brimelow
You know that the Democrats are desperate when they bring Bill Clinton onto the campaign trail.
I don't know if you saw this, but he's, you know, an obviously sort of controversial figure in modern American history.
He was historically popular.
So if they're going to Bill, they're recruiting Bill to stump for Kamala.
They are really trying to connect, I think, largely with white voters.
But I think it is...
seamus coughlin
Maybe younger ladies. She's like, I'll do the call her day.
hannah claire brimelow
But like I said, I mean, Monica Lewinsky is a folk hero for some feminists.
So in some ways, bringing Bill Clinton on is actually a gamble.
That's why I say, like, they are going to throw everything they can because they are not confident in this election.
seamus coughlin
Well, isn't it so interesting that we never got, like, a mainstream feminist analysis of the power imbalance that existed between the most powerful man in the country and his interns?
hannah claire brimelow
I think you did. I think there are a lot of people...
seamus coughlin
No, I'm saying in the mainstream. Like, this is not something that the media would touch on, in spite of their left-wing biases and the fact that they believe in girl power and women and want to protect them from being assaulted.
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe, but I think Monica Lewinsky has become... She's, like, done the round on podcasts.
I mean, she is not the same person she was.
At least her reputation is not the same as it was for her.
I mean, she had a collaboration with Reformation, like a clothing brand.
She is a pop culture icon.
And again, this is largely due to the Me Too movement and sex-positive feminism.
But... Still, nonetheless, in the ninth hour, they're bringing Bill Clinton onto the campaign trail.
ian crossland
They brought Dick Cheney in, which I thought was shocking.
That's hilarious. The warmongering war arm of the Republican Party now is serving the Democrats.
And we'll talk about it later, but Tim Waltz is getting with World of Warcraft gamers.
It just feels massively, really, really desperate.
seamus coughlin
Part of what I thought was so hilarious about the Dick Cheney thing was, okay, so you had Democrats going on and on about gun violence for a week, and then Dick Cheney endorses Kamala and they celebrate.
He shot a guy.
ian crossland
With birdshot, right? On a hunting trip?
seamus coughlin
Yeah! It's like, hold on!
unidentified
And then they had that day of victims of gun violence at the DNC. But they didn't contradict Cheney then.
seamus coughlin
They're like, we're going to talk about gun violence and then we're going to be excited that we got endorsed by someone who shot a guy.
And they were talking about that nonstop.
The Democrats ripped on him forever over that.
But now that he's useful to them, it's no longer a serious matter.
hannah claire brimelow
It's like... I was going to say, I just think it's a double insult to Liz Cheney because she endorsed first.
The media gave her some attention.
Her dad endorses and they're like, wow, Liz Cheney is interested.
ian crossland
That's amazing. I see it as like a Potemkin campaign.
It's just a visage of a campaign.
They didn't even have a primary.
They just said, this is going to be it.
Now, be afraid of the guy over there and support this fake process.
Please just shut your eyes and take the bitter pill and get it over with.
Just have this... Nonsense.
If you're critically thinking, it's quite nonsensical.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think that if they had allowed there to be an open convention and allowed Democrats to stump and basically have miniature campaigns leading up to the DNC, that voters would feel more engaged?
Big time. That's what I think.
seamus coughlin
Can I ask you, we were talking about this with Elad yesterday, but do you think Kamala
actually has a better chance of beating Trump than Biden did, or do you think that Biden
ian crossland
had a- Biden had a way better chance.
He was a well-known politician for 30 years, Obama's VP for two terms, like really well-liked
by a lot of people.
Not by everybody, but way better.
seamus coughlin
You think even after his brain was clearly cooked?
tim pool
Yeah, but nobody—all people knew was Trump is president and media says orange man bad.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's a vote against Trump.
tim pool
Sorry to interrupt. No, now we're in the Biden saga with Captain Kamala Harris second in command, and it's been a catastrophe.
So there was this funny—we did a short earlier— Atlantic says, for the first time, or no, for only the fifth time ever, we are endorsing a presidential candidate, Kamala Harris.
And the image they use says, the case for Kamala, and it shows the resolute desk empty.
And it's just like, that's a heck of a symbolism right there.
The case for nothing.
seamus coughlin
An empty White House. For only the fifth time?
You mean you've been doing this for 15 years?
unidentified
What are you saying? You can really say only the second time.
seamus coughlin
Only the last five election cycles.
That's a really long time.
That's not a new thing. That's not unprecedented.
tim pool
Well, they may be saying the past five we didn't, and they're saying over the past hundred years they've done it five times.
seamus coughlin
Okay, possibly. But I don't know.
All of these publications started making political endorsements at around that time.
That's when they're saying, well, this is unprecedented, so now we need to say something.
Remember Scientific America, I believe, even endorsed—was it Biden or Hillary when they made their first endorsement?
They're like, we're going to finally start endorsing candidates.
Probably Biden. Probably Biden, because I don't think anyone thought Trump was actually a threat in 2016.
tim pool
They did not think he was going to win. They were giving him a less than 1% chance of winning.
Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy.
Right now, the betting odds have Trump up 7.6.
Which is crazy. Look, I say this all the time.
Polls are political.
Polls are biased.
And polls, like, we can trust them in aggregate to a certain degree.
But I trust the money more.
No one's trying to lose money on a bet.
And so now, if you're betting on Trump, you bet what?
You bet $100, you're going to get minus 7.
You're going to win $90-something.
So I look at this and I say, people are planning to win.
They're not betting to lose.
And that says a lot about where the people currently are in what they perceive in the media.
And I say that means more than polls.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, no, I would agree with you. And I think that a lot of the polls will artificially inflate the Democrats' number in order to demoralize Republicans.
That said, even though I think Trump is further ahead than the polls are saying that he is right now, there's something I saw a leftist on Twitter say to their audience that I will say to everybody here in our audience.
Polls don't vote. People do.
So make sure you still get out there, even if it is the case that Trump is 30 points ahead, according to the polls, which he's not right now, Steve.
You still got to go out and vote.
You still got to take this seriously.
This is absolutely not guaranteed.
hannah claire brimelow
Right. And I think this year in particular, given that I think something like 3 million Americans are without internet connection because of the storms that have rolled through, polls are right now not as accurate as maybe they could be.
And I would assume the same thing is true for the betting market.
Anything that you would be calculating data or maybe submitting your opinion online, there's a huge portion of people who...
Probably support Trump because I'm just going off the North Carolina red states that were so impacted.
But who could support either candidate who are not able to be surveyed?
You know, it was in 2016.
Everyone's like the polls were wrong.
And except for I think Rasmussen was the only one who got it right.
But this year, I think the polls actually do not have a chance of being accurate, not necessarily because of bias, but because they cannot get to two Americans to survey.
seamus coughlin
Well, and this is actually part of what I am curious about.
Firstly, your point about not having Americans to survey.
There was a great Thomas Sowell line.
Like the vast majority of Americans, I've never spoken to a pollster.
But also, we saw earlier that the likelihood of a Hillary victory was calculated as higher than the likelihood of a Biden victory.
So I wonder if they have done something to correct Hillary.
For the numbers since 2016.
I don't know. I'm a little skeptical because, again, I think they view putting the Democrat ahead in all the polls as a demoralization tactic.
That said, get out and vote regardless.
You've got to get out and vote.
hannah claire brimelow
Especially because the down ticket race is really needed.
I think sometimes people in areas that are like, well, it's definitely going to—I mean, you're from Alabama, so you maybe don't have this experience.
But, you know, if you're from a blue area, you're expecting a blue governor, you know, you think, ah, well, like— Trump's never going to win my state or, you know, a Republican will never win this office.
So it doesn't matter. And I think especially in the down ticket races, some of them were decided by a few thousand votes.
I mean, it really does matter if you turn out.
You can't just write off your area because it historically turns a certain color.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, well, that's true. Even if you're in a deep blue or deep red state, your vote counts for something.
Even if you're not able to flip your state, if 20,000, 30,000, 40,000 more people vote for a Republican in a deep blue state than normally do, that tells the Republican Party something about the quality of candidate that they need to be selecting for.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, it definitely gives them something to go off of.
I mean, what if you flip your state senator and that's one more vote in favor of legislation that matters to you on the state level?
I know we worry a lot about what the federal government's going to do, and there's good reason for that.
But more than likely, it's your state representatives that are going to be deciding the things that immediately impact you, including your state budget.
So it matters who you send.
And as much, I get why all eyes are focused on the top of the ticket, but I think you have to stay motivated.
ian crossland
I used to staunchly suggest if you don't know what you're voting for, don't vote.
But do you think it's better for someone to vote for the same person that someone they respect is voting for if they don't know anything about it than to not vote at all?
seamus coughlin
That's a really good question.
I mean, I've sort of taken a similar line to you in the past, and I even made a video about this with the Foundation for Economic Education, where we were basically saying, if you need a celebrity to tell you to vote, you shouldn't.
Don't go vote if that's the reason that you're voting.
I do think it makes sense, for example, like, let's say you have a married couple.
The wife doesn't pay that much attention to politics.
The husband says, hey, we should vote for this guy.
He's way better. They both vote for him, right?
That's one thing. I think that's wise, and that's how it should be, if that's the case.
But if it's like...
The person you respect is not someone who's actually involved in your life, and you respect them because of something that's completely unrelated to their political knowledge or your well-being, then I would say you shouldn't vote based on what they say.
tim pool
I want to jump to this clip that's gone viral, and I want to stress, as we're talking right now, the question Ian asked is, the gist of it is, if you don't really know who to vote for, should you participate or take someone else's advice?
Let me play this clip. Watch this.
unidentified
Trump or Kamala? Kamala.
Why are you voting for Kamala?
Because Trump fucking sucks.
Because she's trying to make the world a lot cheaper to live in.
The amount of money that it costs to just do anything keeps increasing so much.
So do you think that's Biden and Kamala's fault?
I think that's always been happening.
How much things have cost has always been, like, increasing?
So you think Kamala's gonna fix it, even though she's already been VP for four years?
What did Trump do? I think he fixed it.
Did he? Yeah, I think the economy is way better.
Houses were cheaper. Rent was cheaper.
Grocery prices were cheaper.
What is Kamala's greatest achievement as VP? I literally don't know.
I have no idea. You don't know anything she's done?
No, I don't.
But she's still the better choice. Yes, because I know a lot of things that he has done.
tim pool
Like, you know a lot of things about Trump that are negative?
unidentified
Yeah. He's racist.
He's sexist. Okay, well, what has he done that's racist?
Specifically, I don't watch anything with Trump in it.
I don't watch things politically.
So you just have an opinion, but you don't really know why?
tim pool
Yeah. I beseech thee all.
I hope and I pray that we make voting hard.
Much, much, much harder.
That woman should not be voting.
Okay? I would agree. She doesn't know.
Listen. What was it Mike Rowe said?
Voting is dangerous. You have a right to own a gun, but guns are dangerous.
And if someone is, you know, they take a gun and they do something like they're screwing around with it, people can get hurt.
If this woman goes and votes, she could literally be voting to figuratively set the curtains on fire because she has no idea what she's talking about.
Why are we allowing people like that Or I should say, not so much allowing, but why do we accept that as culturally, socially normal?
That people who literally are like, I have no idea what's going on, but I'm voting for Kamala.
ian crossland
Why do we accept that? I think it's because the other option would be to have some small group of people decide who gets to and who doesn't get to.
seamus coughlin
Oh, but hold on, Ian. I gotta...
tim pool
No, it's not. Hold on. The alternative is like, I don't know, you have to fill out a selective service before you vote?
seamus coughlin
Well, because Ian, here's the thing.
The more uninformed people there are voting, the easier it is for a small handful of people to gain control over the country because they can just trick all the dumb people into voting for them, basically.
ian crossland
I'm thinking way back when they started the Constitution and they decided we're going to let everyone that has stake in land vote.
Like, why did they say everyone?
Why did they say, but not the stupid people that aren't paying attention?
Because it's like you can't, who gets to decide who's stupid and who's not paying attention?
I mean, she admitted it, but...
tim pool
But right, so you don't.
You create a system by which it is much more difficult for those that are stupid to negatively
impact the system.
So the reason why it had to be a land order to vote was because if you didn't live here,
why are you voting on how we live?
Like, back in the day, you've got, let's say you've got 50 homes and farms, and all of the homeowners are coming together to determine how they're going to handle their local community, and they say, we live here, we're voting.
Do you live here? No. Well, then you don't get to vote on how we live.
That was basically your ID and proof of being part of the community.
Now, I agree. The economy has changed.
Population density has changed. We have people who rent.
And so an ID perhaps is what you should have.
I think in order to vote, you need an ID. But I got one real simple thing for you.
I'm going to make it as easy as possible for everyone to vote, okay?
You don't need an ID. No ID required.
Okay, actually, that's kind of silly. You got to have an ID. But let's make it as easy as possible.
Everybody's got an ID. That's fine. And when you walk in, they say, okay, here's the voting booth and here's your ballot.
And they hand you a blank piece of paper.
That's it. Oh, I love that.
And you've got to write down the position and the candidate who's running and spell it correctly.
That's it! Because this woman's going to go and then she's like, I don't know, Kamala, and she's going to spell it wrong.
ian crossland
Spelling, though, is a tough one.
Don't care. Just because someone didn't learn the grammar.
hannah claire brimelow
I think it would bring back the era of the political jingle because people would be spelling out their names to songs.
That's right. That's a whole era of creativity we've been tapped into.
Or we just see a lot of people changing their names to something like, you know, John Green.
Sue... Sue Black, whatever it is.
None of the above. It's going to be a weird time in American history.
seamus coughlin
You just got to notice that all the PSAs that tell people to get out and vote will go on and on about how voting is a civic responsibility and duty, but they will never ever tell you that staying informed on the issues is a civic responsibility and duty.
What I'm saying is, voting is not a duty.
Voting is a privilege.
Being informed on the issues is a duty, and you have to fulfill that duty before you vote.
unidentified
Maybe a small questionnaire.
I mean, the vast majority of young people can't even tell you what two countries border the USA. It's just a small questionnaire of simple questions to allow people to move forward and vote.
tim pool
I think there's potentially something there.
But the issue then is who gets to make the questions.
Right, exactly. And then what they can do is they can say, let's do an AI aggregation of common questions.
Republicans fail and Democrats don't.
And use that as the basis of how you vote.
And then you can manipulate. I think...
Blank ballot, you know why?
Well, look, it's even right? Hey, look, all you got to do is know who you're voting for and what they're running for.
That's fair, isn't it? Tell me why.
Explain to me why.
You should- we should not have a blank ballot.
Give me one good reason why a blank ballot is not fair.
ian crossland
Because illiterate people should still have a right to vote.
tim pool
You think an illiterate person is going to look at a paper ballot and not be able to read?
And what are they voting for if they can't read the paper ballot?
ian crossland
Just the letter K or the letter D, like Kamala or Donald, and then they'll know.
They might not be able to spell, but they'll be able to recognize the word.
tim pool
No, I disagree.
seamus coughlin
I don't agree that illiterate people should be voting.
tim pool
Someone might see Donald and think it says Democrat and vote for the wrong person.
That's not fair, is it? So if someone is illiterate and can't vote, too effing bad.
ian crossland
What do we do for that? Well, like, the spelling thing's risky because if a guy's name's John and they don't put an H, that's a fail.
Sayonara. A lot of people named John.
That's a lot of mistakes.
tim pool
But it's fair. It doesn't matter if you're a Democrat or Republican, anyone can misspell John.
ian crossland
I'm kind of like, if you don't know how to do math, you're out of my sight kind of guy.
But look, here's my point.
My point is this.
tim pool
There is nothing unfair about a blank ballot.
Nothing. You say maybe they misspell, maybe they can't spell.
Okay, so illiteracy is not a political position.
It's completely fair that everyone is required to know who they're voting for and what position they're running for.
And here's the best part. Republicans will win every single election if we did that.
ian crossland
Because of better education?
tim pool
Because Republicans tend to pay attention more.
And I don't want to even say Republicans, but people who are voting Republican now.
So Libertarians would win every other race.
The two parties in this country would be Libertarian and Republican.
hannah claire brimelow
I have to go back to Ian saying, I'm a, if you can't do math, get out of my sight guy.
Because now I'm just picturing you at a restaurant as someone's trying to like calculate the tip and you're like, get out of here!
ian crossland
Oh man, people that are illiterate, just, sorry, I'm a little extreme with like who
I surround myself with and if people are not stupid but ignorant, I get a little, they
slow, they slow things down with their lack of knowledge.
It's kind of like, I mean, I'm kind and open and I can tolerate people, but if you're not
aware and engaged in learning, I'm just like, God.
tim pool
Ian's bias against people with dyscalculia.
ian crossland
Yeah, dyscalculia, dispelia, whatever you want to call it.
Dyslexia. Learn, buddy.
tim pool
Dyscalculia is when they look at numbers and they can't order them properly.
Just like with dyslexia, they might see letters and they can't read them left or right properly or whatever.
They have text that they made that is on computers, which is easier for people with dyslexia to read.
Interesting. The point is this.
Right now... They would say, like, the illiteracy is not an argument for a blank ballot because everybody has to read the ballot.
That's it. So they can read, but they can't write.
seamus coughlin
What? I think something like that's good, but here's the unfortunate reality, and I think this is just ridiculous and a dirty tactic, but trying to have any kind of educational standard for whether people vote is immediately going to be called racist because poll tests were used for racist reasons, and because standards were at one time in one circumstance racist, that means having any standards for voters of any kind for the rest of history is also racist.
tim pool
The funny thing though is what you were saying about the jingle and changing your name is everyone would literally just change their names to like Tim Pool or something.
seamus coughlin
Well it's funny because one of the people in chat was like Vivek Ramaswamy would be done.
tim pool
No, he'd change his name to like V. He would change his name to Vivek.
And it would be like V-I-V-E-K. You're done.
But then they would do jingle commercials.
I still don't care. I literally don't care if it's Vivek or anybody else.
If you are voting and you don't even know the name of the person you're voting for, your vote doesn't count.
That is insane to me.
That someone's going to walk into a polling booth and they're going to be like, here's a person whose name is Jack Smith.
No idea who that is, but they get my vote.
ian crossland
It would probably come from back when they would have crowds of people and the two candidates would be like, vote for me.
And the other guy would be like, well, actually, vote for me.
And you're like, I like that one. I'm voting for that guy.
You didn't have to read or write.
That's not true. 150 years ago, people didn't really want to read it.
tim pool
150 years ago, you had to go to a polling station and write down the person's name yourself.
And so what the parties would do is they would issue papers with people's names on it to the citizens being like, this is a list of the people you should vote for if you support us.
Then they would go in and write down those names and submit them.
seamus coughlin
That's how it works. The idea that that is too much to ask in order to participate in selecting the leaders of the most powerful nation on the planet is ludicrous.
ian crossland
Like in Greece, they would, way 2,000 years ago, they'd have a black stone and a white stone, and you'd just put whatever color stone you wanted in to vote for your candidate, or vote for your idea, because they probably didn't have literacy throughout the system.
seamus coughlin
The one time they got 8,000 stones at midnight.
tim pool
They're like, that's crazy! You're all painted black.
Looks like I win. No, it's just the funny thing is the guy carrying the rocks struggling to bring the mail-in votes in.
seamus coughlin
I just collected these from my friends.
tim pool
Three in the morning, all these rocks we found.
ian crossland
Is there a way to write down the names of the people, but it doesn't matter if it's spelled exactly right?
tim pool
No. That might be better.
Gotta spell it right. Don't care.
That's tough. Literally don't care.
ian crossland
Because literacy isn't part of being able to vote.
seamus coughlin
Look, man. It totally should be.
It totally should be.
ian crossland
It's like, what, the British English Library?
You gotta learn that and memorize that to participate in the system?
seamus coughlin
I just, I gotta say, it would also be one thing if, man, I mean, I'm about to walk back what I was about to say, because I was going to say we have an educational system that teaches people how to read and write, but we actually don't.
We like actually really don't.
hannah claire brimelow
I was going to say, we don't need any reason to deter people from becoming literate.
I think that's a good goal.
tim pool
How does it make sense in any other system to allow people to vote on how those systems function?
Okay, so I work at a hydroelectric plant.
And, you know, I was hired to run it.
I know how all the systems work, and I'm in charge.
And then, well, let's put it to a vote.
Okay, there's an emergency. The alarm's going off.
Let's put it to a vote to what to do.
Janitors, what say you?
The janitors might be like, look, man, I can make this place shine like you've never seen it shine before.
But these guys don't know how to run a hydroelectric plant.
Why do they get a say in how it runs?
ian crossland
That's insane. Basically, they're voting for electors.
That's what we have in our system, too, is you're voting for electors.
You're not actually voting for Donald Trump directly.
tim pool
Yeah, the Founding Fathers are smart people.
They created layer upon layer to make sure that there were smarter people who were well-informed on how these things run who were in charge while still keeping some democratic element of it.
ian crossland
So if the electors could use discernment and say, I got 81% of the votes spelled correctly for Donald Trump and 19% of the votes were incorrect.
So I, as an elector, can decide not to acknowledge the 19% of the incorrect.
Or I could use discernment, but then you're kind of leaving it up to how the guy feels.
seamus coughlin
Well, it depends on if there's an official policy there for that type of thing.
ian crossland
There's so many ways to misspell a word, like John, for sure.
It's one of the most common names in English.
seamus coughlin
I guess my point is you would just have to have a standardized policy.
You would either be in a county or state or municipality that counts ballots that are spelled incorrectly or doesn't, but it could not be up to the discernment of whoever happens to be counted.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, the ballot counter, that would be way worse.
Yeah. Do you think that people are motivated to vote this year?
Or do you think they're more likely to stay at home?
unidentified
I think people are motivated because everybody's almost hyper-radicalized.
It seems more tribal this time around.
So I feel like people are really, really charged up to vote, which I think actually plays well for Donald Trump.
hannah claire brimelow
Tribal on both sides?
unidentified
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Well, there's a small percentage of people that I feel like do their own research.
But there's also people that just follow their confirmation bias wherever they go.
It doesn't matter. It's like the girl in that clip.
She's just repeating what one or two or three of her friends told her.
That's why she can't give any examples for what she believes.
That's a lot of people. I had a friend recently, and I say recently.
It's about six months ago. They knew me from YouTube, and they said they really wanted to move down south because they live in LA. They hate it there.
It's awful. They hate it.
They hate having to be fake. They're in the entertainment industry.
And they have to parade around, like repeating the same weird kind of like extreme leftist
positions to try to get promotions and job opportunities in the entertainment industry.
She said that people would just walk up and just say things like open conversations about
how Donald Trump's racist, just randomly.
And that's how you how you would go about these situations to try to get job opportunities.
But they said they wanted to move down south.
And they are not white.
So they were like, well, I'm just terrified.
I'll go down south. I'll get to Alabama or Tennessee and people will kill me for being Hispanic or something.
And I'm like, you've definitely never been anywhere around.
For one, these places are extremely diverse.
And two, it's not 1862.
It's all because it's repeated in popular media.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I had a really, really woke white friend tell me something similar.
She had wanted to move and she was like, but I could never go anywhere in the South because they're all homophobic and racist.
And I was like, but have you ever spent any time in the South?
And she's like, no, I haven't. I just know this.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, dude, I saw an infographic floating around on Twitter that some lefty posted that had like thousands and thousands and thousands of likes and shares about sundown towns in the United States.
And it had a bunch of towns labeled as sundown towns.
I was like, you have to be kidding me.
unidentified
That's just farming. It's just not true.
seamus coughlin
They'll say, yeah, this is a town where if a black person is there, they'll get arrested or hurt.
It's like, you're a liar.
You're a liar. That doesn't happen.
tim pool
But people live in this world.
hannah claire brimelow
The Human Rights Campaign, I think, released – it's an LGBTQ organization.
They would release a domestic travel advisory.
Like, forget all the other countries where actually being gay is potentially something that could put your life in danger.
They're like, Florida wouldn't advise going there.
unidentified
Florida. The Gators don't even like them.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story from the Post Millennial.
Got a couple stories for you.
This is funny. Trump touts American manufacturing tax breaks for U.S. companies that make goods at home in speech to Detroit Economic Club.
Ah, yes. He mentioned lowering taxes.
He says that your interest payments on your auto payments, they're going to be tax deductible.
So that working individuals have more money in their pockets.
He's talked about no tax on overtime.
He's talked about no tax on tips.
And what do you think Harris Walz has to counter this amazing maneuver in this campaign season?
Oh no, Tim Waltz held a rally next to World of Warcraft?
Okay, this is incredible because this is the meme.
There was a meme going around where someone made a video of Harris Waltz doing a rally while someone was playing one of those games like Jungle Runner.
You ever see that? Or Subway Runner or something?
ian crossland
What are they called? Where you're just constantly running left or right?
seamus coughlin
No, I know what you're talking about.
tim pool
That TikTok trend, yeah. Right, because people would make videos where they would talk about stuff.
This has been a long trend on YouTube for a long time, where someone plays a video game while talking about something.
And so a lot of podcasts were video game play.
And then the funniest thing that would happen is, when people started to realize that these videos did well, they would take other people's gameplay, put it on the screen, sit back and start talking, so they'd simulate them talking while playing a video game.
Well, uh... I guess this is what Harris Waltz thinks is going to counter the Trump rally.
Look, Trump has a rally where he's like, we're going to cut your taxes, ladies and gentlemen.
And Tim Waltz has a rally where he's like, look, they're playing World of Warcraft.
Now, the most offensive thing about this is not even that Tim Waltz had a video game playing at his rally.
It's that they chose World of Warcraft.
I played World of Warcraft in 2006.
Okay? This is an old game.
The user base is way down.
No offense to my WoW friends.
I know y'all still play.
There was, what, Dragonflight?
Was that the latest expansion? Yeah, I just got it.
Yeah. But look, the game is nowhere near where it was in vanilla.
Sorry. And I was a huge World of Warcraft player.
ian crossland
It's a lot more action-packed now.
It's more like less attention span type of game.
It used to be you'd hit up your friends and be like, hey, you guys want to go do a dungeon?
And it would be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, let me take 20 minutes to fly to you, and then we'll find some other people.
And you're looking for someone that can be a tank, and you're talking to people and getting to know people.
And now it's just you push a button, you queue up, you get in, and your dude's already running forward attacking the tank, and you're just chasing after him, trying to heal him.
And then the dungeon ends and they just disappear.
tim pool
Yeah. This is kind of wild, too, because without going and wasting time, do they not realize that's what ruined the game?
That it was fun when it was hard to build communities and earn the success in the game?
But I digress. Back to what people really care about, which I got to be honest, most people probably actually care about the video game.
But we talk politics here.
Donald Trump is offering real tangible things to the voters.
I'm not saying, I know, obviously Democrats are going to say, you can't compare the two, that's not fair.
But this seems to be a component of their strategy to what, get young people or something?
hannah claire brimelow
something? Can I draw a different comparison? Sure. This makes me wonder if this shows us a
difference between the two sons of these campaigns, right?
Like, if this is advice from Tim Walls' son and Barron Trump is like, dad, go on Theo Vaughn's show, I'm
a huge fan. Like, maybe just the youth outreach element. I mean, we saw this a little bit with
Ella Emhoff, right? Like, I think some of the appeals with Brat Summer and we must listen to the pop
culture icons or whatever else, like, if you are surrounded by youth who are like, no, no, this
is cool, then you are going to believe them and reach different
audiences.
seamus coughlin
I also, I love the idea, I thought you were going to go here with this, I love the idea that Tim Walz's son was like, Dad, you have to have World of Warcraft playing alongside you while you speak.
and baron trump was like dad you need to make interest payments on car loans
that is what is going to get americans to vote for you but the reality is that's
actually a very interesting and well thought out policy whenever democrats
propose things like this it's like uh let's give you free college like let's
just hand something out for free and it's not really a well thought out or
intricate plan for how you could actually help the economy i don't necessarily know that i would agree with um
Writing off the interest that you're paying on a car loan.
But obviously the auto industry has not been in great condition.
COVID really did a number on them.
I know that car dealerships, not a lot of people know this, car dealerships, as far as I understand, they can actually tack extra percentage points on your loan that end up getting paid to the dealership.
And that's one of the ways that they make money.
And so this would also, regardless of how we feel about that practice, is clearly something that would keep dealerships open, even though that's not a policy that I love.
Point is, this is clearly something that some thought has gone into and not...
How can I pander to the least educated group of voters with free stuff?
unidentified
It's what I see every single time I scroll my feed.
It's I'll see Trump saying something about tax cuts.
And I don't want any.
Taxation is theft. I'm done with it.
Especially when you see the 12% self-employment tax and you're like, I just want to die.
seamus coughlin
It's crazy. When you're self-employed, it's insane.
unidentified
But then I scroll down my feed a little more and I just see a celebrity number...
1A is now supporting Kamala Harris, and it's all aimed at just Zoomers.
Now, granted, it's not a game that would appeal to Zoomers.
Maybe they're trying to get people in their 30s, because we used to play it.
But it's just this hyper-attention deficit audience that needs a game.
hannah claire brimelow
I was going to say, I thought it was an ADHD thing where you listen better if there's this other thing moving.
unidentified
I don't know what it is. I get frustrated because I'll scroll through Reels or something on Instagram, and it'll be one of those things where somebody's talking about something important, and then somebody's welding beside it on a different screen, and I just immediately scroll because I don't need the distraction.
I like to watch or hear whatever somebody's saying, and that's crazy to me that you have one where there's all these policies, and then you have the other is just, here's these celebrities that...
ian crossland
No one cares about. That's the astroturfing I mentioned earlier in the show, where it feels like it's the Potemkin candidate.
Like, this guy, they're just putting him near cool things and hoping that it catches fire.
Like, when I saw this story, I was...
For a moment, I was like, he plays World of Warcraft?
Tim Waltz? What's his class?
I asked my buddy who sent me the article.
He was like, Dwarven Rogue. That's what they're looking for.
Yeah, and I was like, he plays Dwarven Rogue?
Like, how long has he been playing?
Did he just make a character? And then I find out he's just given a stump speech next to this guy named Preheat.
You want it closer to the face? Serge, give me the wind it up.
tim pool
But that's all he was doing is like someone's playing a video game while he talks.
ian crossland
Yeah, I thought he was playing at first.
And then I was like, okay, it could either be awesome because Tim Walsh has been playing Warcraft for 17 years and now I'm finding out.
Or it could be really lame that he just made a character.
But it's even worse.
He's just giving a speech next to Preheat.
hannah claire brimelow
You thought it was a put a gamer in the White House moment and it is not.
ian crossland
Yeah, I was like, maybe I can identify with this guy.
Maybe there's something more to Tim Walsh than the weird freaking out looking face thing.
unidentified
They're just throwing stuff at the wall.
Every day it's something completely different and something just off the wall.
It's going on a random podcast.
Like, I don't even remember what it was called.
What was that podcast you went on?
seamus coughlin
Oh, yeah, we were talking about this, the Call Her Daddy podcast.
unidentified
Yeah, it's like, what are you doing?
seamus coughlin
But this is also, I mean, look, it used to be the case that the voting age in this country was 21 as well.
So it wasn't just, and we were just talking about this, how Trump has these well-thought-out policies, and you've got all these celebrities endorsing Kamala to try to pander to some 18-year-old who didn't know anything yet.
You've got to remember, back when the voting age was 21, This was at a time where people were already living on their own and providing for themselves by the time they were 18.
You go even further towards the founding of our country, it was like by the time you were 16 you were expected to be able to provide for yourself.
So by the time you were 21, you had been living in the real world dealing with real problems for several years.
And then at that point we were willing to allow a citizen to make civic decisions.
Today, you're not even on your own or considered independent in most cases until you're about 22 years old When you're done with college, it's not considered abnormal to live with your parents before then or not be taking care of yourself.
And we let people vote before they even reach that age.
tim pool
Here's the pitch from Trump. He should say, we're going to raise the voting age to 32.
And that way, Gen Z, the Democrats will stop pandering to you.
They'll leave you alone. And your advertisements will be K-Flub and Snoosh Snoosh and whatever celebrity name I don't know.
seamus coughlin
I actually can't think of, other than people who are 18 years old entering military service, I mean, there's some exceptions you can make for people who are really giving to their country, but the idea that by default you are able to vote at 18 I think is ridiculous.
ian crossland
What about one vote per household?
And that way, if you're still dependent, you can't vote.
tim pool
Nope, because what you're saying then is single women get more voting power than married men.
seamus coughlin
That's what I'm saying. You have to weight it on the basis of the household.
So if it's a single household, but if you have eight people there and you're the head of household, you get eight votes.
tim pool
How about this? If you don't have kids, you can't vote.
hannah claire brimelow
I think there should be a question about who we allow to vote.
But to your point about 18-year-olds, yes, we now treat 18-year-olds like they are actually children.
Like we needed to decide as a culture if we're sticking with 21, and that's true for all kinds of stuff, or if you are an adult at 18 and our expectation is that you behave that way.
Because right now we're kind of doing the worst of both, right?
Yeah.
Yeah. They're okay with you making adult decisions, particularly the left is okay with you making adult decisions if it's a way for them to exploit you.
seamus coughlin
So, for example, when you're 18 and don't know any better, they'd love for you to vote.
They even want to lower the voting age, depending on how far they are onto the left, because you're easier to exploit.
These are people who will tell you that when you're 18 years old, you're too foolish and underdeveloped to be able to take out a loan, but you're mature enough to go post on OnlyFans and have those pictures be on the internet forever.
So it's totally incoherent. The reality is they want to get as much as they can from younger people.
They want to exploit them maximally.
They also know that even the efforts that they claim they're engaged in to make younger people's lives easier
are also just another method of exploiting them.
For example, student loan debt forgiveness.
That is one of the most regressive tax proposals in the country.
It redistributes wealth from low earners to high earners.
But they're doing that in the name of helping younger people who have taken out these predatory loans
when the reality is it's just to buy their votes.
So it is literally all about taking everything from them that they can.
hannah claire brimelow
Right. I mean, if they were serious about it, both candidates would vow to stop issuing federally
backed student loans, but they're not going to.
seamus coughlin
And this is not some fringe right-wing opinion, right? The National Bureau of Economic Research
has pointed this out, that universities respond to tax-subsidized, federally subsidized student
loans by raising tuition costs.
hannah claire brimelow
Because they just expect the students to go into debt for it.
tim pool
Exactly. So, my friends, while we're just previously discussing what Tim Waltz was doing to compete with Donald Trump's new tax cut plan, what do you think Gretchen Whitmer is doing to try and boost her standing in this year?
ian crossland
Pilates. Pilates.
tim pool
If you guessed Pilates, you'd be wrong.
It would be feeding a woman on her knees a Dorito.
seamus coughlin
Discuss. It's so weird.
tim pool
Which I don't even understand what this is.
seamus coughlin
Like, look. I interpreted it, first of all, you pointed out on your Twitter, and I agree that it looks very fetishy and weird, but it's clearly a mockery of the Eucharist, right?
She's like delivering this as if she's a priest giving the body of Christ to a parishioner.
She's feeding a Dorito to a citizen, which is just weird.
ian crossland
Food coloring is pretty toxic, I think.
unidentified
Okay, and you have two daughters. When they come back home and they leave their Stanley Cups lying around, do you ever think about getting a post-birth abortion?
Ha ha! Well, first of all, thank you for raising that, because there's no such thing.
Great. So I think it's really important for us to make sure people understand that.
tim pool
I don't understand, like, how they just lie.
It's like, they're just evil, because it was former Governor Northam, right?
It was Northam, and he was like, the baby will be delivered, then will be made comfortable, brought into another room where the doctor and the mother will make a decision.
Mm-hmm. Like, what do you think that means?
seamus coughlin
This is one of the only things Obama voted against in the Senate, by the way, was a bill that would require you to save a child that was born after a botched abortion.
tim pool
Here we go. You ready? Okay.
unidentified
And then speaking of men who lie, would you rather be in a forest alone with Donald Trump or with a bear?
A bear. A bear?
ian crossland
That's a lie. Yeah.
unidentified
Because I might have a better shot of reasoning with the bear.
Yeah. They'll actually listen.
tim pool
You know what this reminds me of?
She should try it. I'm sorry.
This reminds me of a bit that I have to pull up right now from Ryan Long and Danny Polishchuk.
ian crossland
Both geniuses, by the way.
tim pool
And Seamus knows exactly what I'm talking about.
seamus coughlin
We were crying earlier watching this video.
tim pool
We were crying. Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
While you're finding it, Seamus, will you do a cartoon where somebody asks the bear if they'd rather feel the bear?
seamus coughlin
That's hilarious!
He's like, look, I don't want to be alone with any of these women.
These are all lunatic lefties.
They're going to say I misgendered them or something and destroy my life.
ian crossland
I don't need that. You'd be like, Kamala Harris or a bear hunter.
And the bear's like, I mean, I'll take the bear hunt.
tim pool
You ask the bear, would you rather be trapped in the woods with Donald Trump or Gretchen Whitmer?
And he goes, Donald Trump. And then he's like, have you seen the video?
She'd rather be with me than Donald Trump.
Here we go. Here we go.
unidentified
Shout out to Ryan Long. You know, recently there's been a lot of articles pointing out how men are far less emotionally intelligent than women and how that's been ruining their relationships.
Oh yeah, you know, I always say the wife's more intelligent than me.
Emotionally, of course. You know, it's unfortunate, but it's an apartment that we lack in.
Last week we were at the airport.
Our plane gets delayed an hour, whereas my natural instinct would be to say, it is what it is, there's nothing we can do.
Brittany had the emotional intelligence to realize this is a big deal.
We should be arguing with Anyone who will listen, and in general, just going ballistic, regardless of whether or not it'll help.
Look, it's not about whether or not it helps.
For example, say you plan an outdoor event and it begins to rain, an emotionally unintelligent person like myself might suggest some sort of alternative or contingency, or maybe we'll do it on another day, as opposed to realizing that this is in fact the end of the world and you should be flying off the handle.
You know, whether you're reading an article about COVID coming back or your Uber Eats driver brings you the wrong order, We as men do not have the emotional intelligence to realize that not only is this something we should be freaking out about, but we should also be becoming actively hostile to others who are remaining calm.
tim pool
Dude. Ryan and Danny, a grand slam on that one.
But look, when I watched this ridiculous thing, it is insanity.
And I'm just going to throw it back to that woman.
We were covering the segment previously where a woman's like, Donald Trump is—it was funny what she says.
He's like, you're going to vote for Trump or Kamala over Trump?
And she goes, yeah, because I know what Trump has done.
What did Trump do? I actually don't know.
I don't watch any clips. She had no idea what she was talking about.
I look at this stuff with Whitmer and this woman, and these are people who clearly have no idea what's going on and are just—they may as well be playing some kind of weird, I don't know, Simon Says game with each other where they're trying to figure out what is or is unacceptable based on arbitrary criteria.
Meanwhile, me, who's just horribly emotionally unintelligent, thinks that we should have logic and reason behind the decisions we make that will ultimately lead to more fruitful society.
If only I was as emotionally intelligent as Gretchen Whitmer.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah. I just think without Donald Trump, they would have very little to talk about.
And that is sort of a problem in and among itself, right?
If they're supposed to be two average, two above average intelligent women, why are all these jokes so lame?
And why can't you actually articulate a new and original thought?
Oh, you don't like Donald Trump?
You're recycling a joke that was kind of viral months ago?
Like, okay, you can drop Stanley cups because you're kind of making fun of basic white girls.
Like, I don't get it. It's just not that deep and you're not that good at this.
seamus coughlin
Well, also, I mean, man, I hate to be that guy, but if I don't, I love being this guy!
I love being this guy! If a male politician was like, you know, I think I would be able to reason with an animal better than I can reason with a woman, I think that might send shockwaves through the media.
In fact, I think that would end that man's political career.
Unless, honestly, Trump's someone who might be able to get away with saying it, but he wouldn't say that.
ian crossland
If it was like a dog, if they're like, you'd be in the woods with a dog or with Kamala Harris, and you're like, I'd take the dog, because a dog could help you hunt.
seamus coughlin
But if it was a hostile animal that wanted to eat you...
Well, hold on. If it's specifically about Kamala Harris, I might even pick like a hostile animal.
ian crossland
A bear? Wait, now you're that guy.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, but I'm not sitting there.
No, no, no. She said just a man.
Oh, she said Donald Trump or a bear.
I thought she said a man or a bear.
Okay. No, Donald Trump specifically. Specifically.
ian crossland
You know, this is like...
She lied because obviously if really it came down to the end of the show and it's like, I have no choice.
I'm in the woods alone. I can have this guy I don't like or a wild bear next to me right now.
I'd take the guy I don't like.
Thank you. It's like she has never really faced professional consequences for lying.
Or this is a sketch.
Is that a journalist that's talking to her or is that just some actor?
Is this supposed to be a sketch? She's a podcaster, I think?
It's blending the line between politics and fake sketches and people don't know that.
seamus coughlin
I would still pick a bear over Kamala because she has a Glock.
ian crossland
The bear or Kamala?
seamus coughlin
Kamala has a Glock. Do we know that she knows where it is?
Yeah, exactly. She couldn't answer a question about it.
ian crossland
I'd take Kamala. She's smart.
She doesn't know the difference. She probably knows how to get a fire started.
seamus coughlin
I don't think Kamala knows how to get it.
tim pool
Bro, did you see her try to open that beer on Colbert?
No. I'm sorry.
The first thing, when I saw the clip, I was like, did she ever have a beer before?
The way she was looking at it, the way she grabbed it and tried to crack it open, the way she took a little sip and then put it down.
Okay, first of all, I'll say this.
She doesn't drink beer. She drinks wine, I bet.
Even SNL roasted her for being a wine drunk.
But she doesn't drink beer, okay?
She's not going to be able to start a fire.
ian crossland
Man, why'd they have her drink alcohol on TV? That's crazy.
Like, she might really be...
seamus coughlin
Because Colbert...
Because that's what they... They think...
This is how low of an opinion they have of your average American.
They think a regular working class guy is going to see that and go like, Whoa, Kamala likes beer?
I like beer.
tim pool
She's cool. I got a cartoon for you.
It's a guy watching TV and he's watching Colbert candor a beer and crack it open.
And then he looks down at his cooler and it's empty.
And then he looks at his...
He goes... He gets up and he opens his wallet and it's empty.
He's like... He can't even have beer.
His beer is empty and he can't have one.
seamus coughlin
Certainly not the champagne of beers.
tim pool
Not the champagne of beers.
She turns the can to read it and she's like, the champagne of beers.
Ma'am, you asked for Miller High Life.
Have you ever seen a can of Miller High Life before?
No. Her staffers asked for it.
She probably doesn't even know what a beer looks like.
hannah claire brimelow
Or she's probably tested a bunch of different brands.
They're like, that one's too controversial.
We got to go with this one.
I just want to point out that Whitmer is deeply involved with the Kamala Harris campaign.
She was one of the first people to endorse.
I think she either is an advisor on the campaign or she's heavily involved with one of the big super PACs.
And so... This is another perspective into apparently what we can expect from female Democratic politicians in America.
Like they think this is the best media move.
And I just don't.
I think that there is a level of sort of gross self-absorption in all of this.
And I don't think that even young moderate women would find this relatable or enjoyable.
tim pool
I just want to say – You know, I'm kind of a liberal guy, right?
So I don't have the disgust reaction, reflex that Seamus has.
You know, and he does. Like, when Kamala went and called her daddy, my reaction was, haha, what a fool, what an idiot.
Seamus was legit, like, turn it off, this is disgusting.
seamus coughlin
So, what happened was, I tried listening to some of it, and it was just, at some point, it was more of a moral disgust, because they don't actually get into discussing anything, like, viscerally repulsive.
They're not talking about the gross sexual degenerate stuff there, but they were talking about stuff that was pretty morally repugnant, yeah.
tim pool
The reason I bring this up is that, you know, depending on the subject matter, Seamus, who is of good moral standing, will be like, no, no, this is bad.
seamus coughlin
I don't know about that, but...
tim pool
And, you know, someone like me, you know, growing up in the city and I'm not a Christian conservative guy, you know, I'm more tolerant.
But I got to tell you, this clip I'm going to show you from Whitmer fills me with absolute disgust.
It's gross. And it, this, you know, I say something like, Kamala's disqualified because she did not do this thing right or she's giving away our money in this regard.
Gretchen Whitmer should be disqualified from office for this video.
unidentified
It's super gross. I just...
tim pool
This fills me with...
You know the feeling you get when you feel like you're going to throw up?
Combine that with rage, like anger.
ian crossland
Oh man, that's projectile vomit.
tim pool
It is. It's like it's going to go...
So, the video, for those that are just listening, is this woman on her knees, and Gretchen Whitmer slides a Dorito into her mouth with weird pop music, and then she shakes her head and smiles, and Gretchen Whitmer gives this weird look to the camera.
It looks like weird fetishist content.
hannah claire brimelow
In her Harris Walls hat.
tim pool
And Harris Walsh is clearly trying to insult Christians.
Like, that was the message.
seamus coughlin
Insult Christianity. It looks like either weird fetish content or something an AI made.
Like, show a politician giving food to the masses.
ian crossland
Yeah, like one of those Will Smith eating spaghetti AIs.
unidentified
Yeah, it's just weird. Weird.
ian crossland
Is that her, like, showing?
tim pool
Those don't disgust me.
ian crossland
Like, is she being like, I'm feeding you grapes?
Like, kind of metaphor? Like, I'm your servant.
I'm whoever this woman is.
hannah claire brimelow
The girl looks super, I guess she's whatever this Instagram handle is.
Femistabulous? I don't know how to pronounce that.
You know, it looks like the girl is sort of worshipping at the feet of Gretchen Whitmer, so thankful to be fed a Dorito.
I know people have drawn comparisons to receiving the Eucharist.
seamus coughlin
Maybe. It looks like it's trying to mock that.
hannah claire brimelow
Whatever it is, it's Weird and unappealing.
Like, Gretchen Whitmer doesn't look like she respects this other woman in the room.
She doesn't look like she's a very nice person.
And so this is our, what, politician?
There are people who think Gretchen Whitmer is going to run for president in 2028.
I mean, this is the attitude and culture that is supposed to be representing female politicians in America?
I hope not.
seamus coughlin
It's very, very creepy and very weird.
And I assume the Dorito thing is supposed to be a reference to Kamala Harris talking about eating Doritos.
You guys remember that? Yeah.
When she was doing her, like, I'm a relatable, normal person, I eat Doritos thing.
hannah claire brimelow
Like, Emhoff and Tim Walls were, like, rushing to hand her bags of Doritos in the gas station in that one clip.
ian crossland
Are they funding? Is the Doritos company funding the Walls-Harris campaign?
seamus coughlin
Really? I don't want to put you on the spot, but I just want to rope you into it.
What do you think?
How does this make you feel?
unidentified
I don't really know.
I think what bothers me about this whole ordeal is, and I'm not particularly a smart man, But when I see all this parading, especially in politics, but especially this time around, because I think Harris is just a very bad actor.
I think you need to be good at acting in some regard to pull off a lot of these things.
And watching all these overt, hey, look, you know, I'm just like you type things, that's what's disgusting to me.
I can't stand that kind of stuff.
I can't stand when somebody opens a beer and sips it.
It's like their tender bio says, I love beer, and you know they don't.
They drink White Claw.
hannah claire brimelow
He should have had a white claw.
That would be way funnier.
It should have been like, look, this is what I like.
I think people would have responded better to that.
But they're pandering so hard, which I think is what you are turned off by.
tim pool
Do they think that some working class white dude is looking at Kamala being like,
I'd like to have a beer with her? No. That was the argument they had about Tim Waltz.
They were like, well, who would you rather have a beer with?
Tim Waltz? What was it?
There was some guy on some late night show or something or CNN. And it's like, my neighbor is
like a Republican guy. And he said, yeah, but you know, I'd rather have a beer with Waltz. And I'm
like, I wouldn't. I'd rather have a beer with Vance.
J.D. Vance plays Magic the Gathering.
ian crossland
Oh, we should game with him, dude.
tim pool
Yes, rock. I'd rather have a beer with- Oh, they're so mad about this, too.
I'm sorry, but when word got out that J.D. Vance played Magic, all of these woke Magic people were like, and they're screaming, and then they found out I played Magic.
ian crossland
They got so mad. Dude, it's going to be so fun.
Let's play. Commander, let's get pre-made decks, though, so it's balanced, because otherwise you're going to stomp.
unidentified
Anyway, I'd rather have a beer with Joe Biden, for sure.
ian crossland
At this stage, where him getting shoved aside, I want to hang with that dude, because he's like- No, he's loose-lipped and mad right now.
hannah claire brimelow
He's giving all the secrets out.
seamus coughlin
What classified stuff is he just going to accidentally let slip?
Are you like, what did he just say?
And he doesn't even remember he said it?
ian crossland
I'm trying to like him more and more now that he's just pissed that he got shoved aside.
I just sensed that in him.
hannah claire brimelow
He always had kind of an attitude.
He would get abrasive.
I mean, he's always had kind of a temper.
seamus coughlin
Get vaccinated. Well, here's a question.
You'd grab a beer with Joe Biden, but would you let Joe Biden feed you a Dorito while you kneeled?
ian crossland
That's the real question. It depends on how drunk I was and how hungry I was.
hannah claire brimelow
A feminist podcaster would never do that if she had a male guest on her show.
unidentified
Can you imagine? It's weird that she's okay with this weird stance.
seamus coughlin
The other thing is, it would just be weird.
If a feminist podcaster did that with a male guest, Red Pillars and stuff wouldn't even think that that was cool.
It would still just be uncomfortable for everybody.
Who likes that? Who's watching that?
ian crossland
I was thinking that if that had been me and she was feeding me the Dorito, how weird that would have been.
unidentified
I was thinking about it. I was thinking, who is this for?
Yeah. When you first played it, I was like, who is this for?
Who sees this? And they're like, yeah, I want to vote for these people for sure.
seamus coughlin
You know, I wasn't going to, and then...
hannah claire brimelow
Well, Lamar is actively a governor right now, right?
That's wild. Isn't that crazy?
This is a sitting politician in America.
seamus coughlin
Doesn't she have a kidnapping to stage or whatever?
hannah claire brimelow
Or I guess that was the FBI. That was already done, and actually the FBI was involved, the whole thing.
ian crossland
Did this spawn from a show she did with that podcaster?
hannah claire brimelow
I think it's the promotional video for this interview that we saw clips of in the post-millennial article.
ian crossland
Okay, so this is a style of humor that I don't get.
unidentified
Yeah, I don't know what it is.
seamus coughlin
And it's not... The thing is, even if it was...
A joke, which again, I'm with Tim.
I think it's a weird fetish thing.
But even if it was just a joke, at some point, as an elected official, you have to go, I'm not doing that joke.
That's a weird joke. It's not going to sit well.
tim pool
I have limits. Let's jump to this next one, ladies and gentlemen.
We got a great story from Politico.
unidentified
Scoop! Tim Waltz to kick off man-focused media blitz.
tim pool
GMA interview with Michael Strahan on football field.
Michigan events on Friday geared toward black men.
Friday night lights at Mankato West.
Pheasant hunting with social media influencers.
Wow! Waltz's folksy relatability on TV played a central role in elevating him to Harris' running mate this summer.
Would you guys want to go pheasant hunting with Tim Waltz?
hannah claire brimelow
I can't wait to see that.
What male influencers have agreed to go pheasant hunting with Tim Walls?
Like, I have to know now.
unidentified
I can't wait to see him change.
tim pool
What are those kids' names?
I don't remember those guys' names.
You know, the 20-year-old dudes who, like, make those cringe videos together where it's like they're weirdly obsessed with Kamala and Joe Biden.
seamus coughlin
Mary Sisson? Yes! Oh my gosh, dude.
hannah claire brimelow
He was throwing plates at a wall.
seamus coughlin
Did you see that where he was throwing plates at a wall?
I was like, oh my gosh.
Is this what they think is going to appeal to men?
That's like something that, like, a bipolar woman who thinks she's being cheated on does.
Don't throw plates at a wall and then do it in front of a camera like you think that's going to make your political cause look good.
ian crossland
Yes. Were they throwing like frisbees?
seamus coughlin
Oh, they're whipping them at a wall to break it!
tim pool
Is that you wouldn't go pheasant hunting with Tim Walz?
seamus coughlin
I gotta be honest. I might go pheasant hunting.
No, I wouldn't go pheasant hunting. I'll tell you the truth.
ian crossland
If he called me and it was like, you want to go pheasant hunting?
I'd say yes. Yeah.
I mean, I'll get involved with the process.
I feel like I can make them all better people and probably enhance the best candidates.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't trust him. I don't trust him.
tim pool
Guys, I honestly think that the actual campaign with Harry Sisson and this other dude, it's intentionally to make them as cringe as possible so that no one wants to support Democrats.
Here, watch this. Trump's paying for it.
seamus coughlin
Well, I did agree, so I guess now I have to vote.
tim pool
Dude, he threw it like 10 feet.
ian crossland
We got it on the 7th take.
seamus coughlin
But that's impressive to them.
ian crossland
That was so lame. I mean, the throw itself was a lame throw.
It was like a loft, very short.
If they'd done it on a live stream and he threw it like 40 yards, maybe it would be something cool.
tim pool
Right. You want to make it masculine.
I saw that. You ever see that video of that woman who just whips the t-shirt all the way to the top of the stands from the football field?
And everyone's like, dang, she's got an arm.
Here you go. Here's a...
And I... What is he doing?
He's autographing...
Autographing a plate, and then he goes...
seamus coughlin
He's writing what he hates about Project 2025 on it, I think.
ian crossland
This is so... He's probably getting paid and doesn't care, and is just phoning it in.
tim pool
Dictator Donald. Oh, yeah, he doesn't know or care.
But I think Seamus is right about this stuff.
Like, they're trying to market towards men, but this right here, it's literally targeting 38-year-old women.
seamus coughlin
That's what I'm saying. That is something that, like, that...
That is so embarrassing.
If a woman does that, you're like, okay, she's pretty nuts.
tim pool
No, no, she's pretty emotionally intelligent.
seamus coughlin
Emotionally intelligent. This is a mobile rage room.
I should be throwing plates at the wall, right?
hannah claire brimelow
No, this is a mobile rage room.
Like, you guys have heard of this trend, but the people I know who book time at rage rooms are like girls who have gone through breakups.
Yes. I don't know any man who has asked to do that.
They just would go like, I don't know what men do.
unidentified
We push it down really deep until we just have an aneurysm.
tim pool
But thinking about this.
hannah claire brimelow
It doesn't sound the healthiest, I will admit.
unidentified
I don't want to live past 40 anymore.
tim pool
Thinking about the Ryan Long segment and the smashing the plates and all that stuff.
You know, people say like, you know, women are so emotional and like men aren't.
I think it's actually just that young men are just beaten down.
And so they're just kind of like, I don't care.
You know, a guy doesn't want to go smash plates because a lot of guys have, not every single guy, but a lot of guys, they've been treated like crap when they were younger.
This is how society treats young men.
They don't get treated very well. So they're kind of calloused.
They get older, bad things happen.
They say, you know, it is what it is.
hannah claire brimelow
But I think we train young men not to throw plates.
I mean, men are like, well, it's not that you should, but like men are taught earlier than women to be careful about how they show signs of aggression, right?
And that standard is not true for women at all, for the most part.
And I think, you know, that's not necessarily bad.
But in this case, it looks misplaced because I don't know that a man looks at a man who's having this big emotional outburst and throwing plates as like a strong masculine man.
seamus coughlin
Exactly. And also, I will add, Anna Claire, I think you're being generous when you use the word aggression to describe what we just saw there.
You grabbed a plate and went, ugh.
I mean, this could never count. And I'm supposed to go, wow, this appeals to me as a man.
But it's really poetic, right?
It perfectly represents the left right now because the reality is somebody made that plate.
It was their job to make that plate.
It's a useful thing.
So we have a wimpy little man-boy who just destroyed something useful over imaginary problems.
That's what the Democratic Party is now.
hannah claire brimelow
And this is a couple weeks old, but it is interesting to think of, like, so you guys are the destruction party, you're cool with the hurricane's destruction, you want to have destruction everywhere.
ian crossland
You want controlled destruction, like a dude chopping wood for a purpose, not just burning trees down and like, ah!
And you want... MMA fighters, you want to watch them take out their...
You want to see a musician crushing it and screaming like his guts out?
unidentified
If Project 2025 happens, I will break all of the plates in my pantry.
It needs to be a guy with a beard and bench pressing.
tim pool
That's what Harry says. Can you name one company that makes plates?
seamus coughlin
No, actually, I can't. Well, actually, I probably could because I think there's certain generic brands.
Like, I assume Walmart makes plates because they have plates at Walmart.
And they have, like, generic Walmart plates.
hannah claire brimelow
Some Pyrex makes plates. Like, Cruset makes plates.
unidentified
Dixie. Dixie.
tim pool
Dixie right now is going like, we hope Trump will.
unidentified
We hope Trump. All of these plates.
tim pool
Okay, 10 tableware brands.
Alabama. I bet if we named these brands, you'd be like, oh, yeah.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I bet. All the plate manufacturing is done by five countries.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, you said Walmart. Walmart is like Better Homes is one of their brands.
Like I'd say, La Crusette, you go to Pottery Barn and get them.
You know, I'm a girl, so apparently I know all this stuff in the room.
ian crossland
I wouldn't be surprised.
tim pool
Okay, wait. I literally have no idea.
Gibson, Corelle.
ian crossland
Corelle. Corelle is good.
Stone Lane. If Stone Lane's funding these guys...
What's it called? Fable?
tim pool
Oh, Fable. We have those, don't we?
ian crossland
Fable plates. Yeah, we actually...
tim pool
See, I don't know, because I'm a man, what dishes are made up.
unidentified
Look on the bottom. Tim, do you ever get so mad at Project 2025, you throw your plate at the wall?
ian crossland
I could see these plate companies funding this, because they're like, this is going to increase demand.
seamus coughlin
Take that, plate.
hannah claire brimelow
In the safe, appropriated, designated spot.
unidentified
You know what we're going to do? If Trump builds that wall, we're throwing plates at him.
You know what it felt like? We're bringing all our plates to the border.
seamus coughlin
We're bringing all our plates to the border.
tim pool
You've got to make it where Harry Sisson and who's the guy?
Is it Chris Mowry? Is that who's hanging out with him?
hannah claire brimelow
No idea. That's the thing.
No one knows. He's just Harry Sisson's friend, you know?
tim pool
Here's the crazy thing.
Do you think when Harry Sisson hangs out with his friends, what do they say to him about this stuff?
seamus coughlin
Dude, if that was my buddy, he would never live that down.
First of all, he wouldn't be my buddy. If he was, he would never live that down.
You would rip on him forever.
tim pool
Nah, because he's buying the beers.
ian crossland
Exactly. What is it, Bud Light?
Heating his ego. I don't think so.
tim pool
He's going to...
I don't know how much money he gets paid.
They claim they don't get paid for doing this stuff, but they do work for some agency or something like this.
I bet dude gets paid a lot of money, and he goes and hangs out with the boys, and then they're going to be like, ha ha, you're pro Kamala, and he's going to be like, do you want the beer or not?
I'm sorry, bro. Okay, get him a beer.
unidentified
He goes to the bar, talks to girls, and he says, you see that guy breaking that plate?
hannah claire brimelow
I don't know. I kind of assume he's surrounded by people who are also like, yeah, I'd love to have some influence and do what you're doing, right?
So they probably just tell him positive things, even if they don't actually feel themselves.
unidentified
You know what my theory is? My theory is it's the exact same thing as that Dean guy.
Like, if you were able to go to this guy's personal, like, four-people group message, it would probably be the most deranged stuff you've ever seen.
Like, just slur after slur.
You're like, oh my gosh, I can't believe this.
And it'll come out in, like, ten years. It always does.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah. And also, I actually don't think he's there to appeal to young voters at all.
He's there to appeal to, like, Democratic boomers who will then open their wallets for whatever campaign he's the youthful face of.
seamus coughlin
Yeah. So this is something – and it happens on the left and the right.
I'm seeing it more on the left right now.
But there's a certain kind of content that is created for the express purpose of – Fooling older people into thinking younger people like it so that the older people will fund it.
But it's really just for the older people who go, oh, look at this cool, look at the, you know, some wine moms, like this cool young man who throws plates at walls, young men like that, or whatever.
Like, the target is actually the donor class.
So if you could just fool them into thinking that the quote-unquote target likes it, they'll give you money.
hannah claire brimelow
Because the young people don't have money.
We know this. There's established facts in this economy.
So, you know, while it's good to get their vote, I guess, really, you're not appealing to them if you're trying to cash in here.
tim pool
So, you guys know how, like, child stars end up going insane and getting crazy plastic surgery?
Yeah. Do you think that'll happen to these guys?
seamus coughlin
I don't know. I don't know, Matt.
tim pool
Serge made a joke, but he doesn't have a microphone.
unidentified
I hope so. I think he's being serious.
tim pool
Remember those two doctors who got the weird, the two twin brothers who got the crazy surgery?
Oh, gosh. You don't know this one?
No. What are those guys' names?
unidentified
I always forget the names.
seamus coughlin
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these influencers got top surgery, but I don't know about like, look, man, I'll put it this way.
The reason a lot of the young people in Hollywood who are child actors end up doing stuff like that is just because they're horribly abused as children by these disgusting, perverted producers.
unidentified
Here we go. Here we go. I remember those guys.
tim pool
I'm just imagining this is what Maori and sisters are going to look like when they're 30.
ian crossland
Yeah, I don't want that to happen to those guys.
I feel like we've really lost masculine direction from the year 2011 to 2019.
I was saying this before, same with God. It feels like we were detached from the spirituality as a species in that decade.
And, like, Obama was our masculine leader, but it was, like, Michelle that wore the pants, and that was cute in their relationship.
And, like, obviously he's kind of a manly dude, but that was, like...
And then we had Rogan appear.
And, like, kind of was, like, the masculine driving, the real, true, aggressive, masculine force of culture.
Sort of counterculture.
And that was about it, man.
I don't think... I'm talking like him.
That was about it, man. Like, that phrase, it, it, man, the way they say that, that came from Rogan's show.
That's him and Brian Callen and, sorry, the other guy, Brennan Schaub.
Sorry, Brennan. But where was it?
And now this is the result.
These guys were six years old from age 16 to 16.
They didn't have, like, strong male role models.
They thought Joe Biden was it.
They thought Obama was, like, it.
And now this is the result.
And then it's gonna take another 10 years to teach people how to be masculine.
tim pool
Mandatory basic training in high school.
Thank you. Have a nice day. I'll add this.
seamus coughlin
I mean, this kind of brings it back full circle to what we were saying with Tim Walls.
I think part of the reason the left sees Tim Walls and they say this will remind people of their father or their uncle is because the last 40 years of media produced in this country has depicted fathers exclusively as dorky, bumbling, soft idiots.
And so when someone acts kind of like a clumsy, goofy dude, the media goes, oh, that's just like what a father figure is.
But your average American, like, does Tim Walz remind you of your dad?
No. No, yeah. Is anyone here to see Tim Walz and go, like, this reminds me of my dad?
That would be one of the worst insults I could pay my father.
He reminds me of a creepy neighbor when my parents told me not to go around. Yeah, he's just a weird guy.
tim pool
Stay away from old man Walz.
He's a weird guy. We've got to jump to this next story here.
We've got some breaking news from Axios.
Scoop, some top Dems won't commit to certifying a Trump win.
Now, we knew this because Raskin said this in February, that they're going to prepare for civil war conditions.
I love this. He says they're preparing for civil war conditions.
They would not allow Trump to win.
If he does win, they're going to get together on January 6, 2025 and say Trump is ineligible.
And then MSNBC has the nerve to say Trump's family is preparing for a civil war.
Yeah, because Raskin went out and said they were.
Here we go from Axios. Doing whatever he can to try and interfere with the process, whether we're talking about manipulating electrical college counts in Nebraska or in Georgia or imposing other kinds of implements, said Jamie Raskin.
Now, the funny thing about Nebraska is they want to make the state winner-take-all, which would mean no more extra-liberal jurisdiction Democrat elector vote.
Democratic leaders, however, seem fully prepared to certify a Trump victory, making potential dissenters a small minority.
Okay, well, I will just say this, right?
Raskin had previously said this, prepare for civil war conditions.
But we were talking about this earlier.
It seems like the Democrats are gearing up for a Donald Trump victory.
It seems like the media, it seems like all of the institutions now.
Look, a couple days ago, YouTube had us on the front page.
Like, default front page not signed in on a private browser, meaning that this typically simulates a regular person, probably geolocated.
Don't get me wrong. So someone in this area goes to YouTube.com and boom, Tim Castile's on the front page.
Everybody starts asking why it is.
We're getting a bunch of subs.
We're getting a bunch of viewers.
Also, take a look at the analytics for a bunch of other conservative channels.
Their views are jumping up.
Something happened. Now, some people have said, well, you know, the CEO passed away and they got a new CEO, maybe.
But looking at the messaging we're seeing across the board, it really does feel like everybody's basically like Trump is going to win and we need to get on his good side now.
seamus coughlin
I'm not going to make any predictions here.
It's possible for him to lose.
I certainly hope that he doesn't.
But a lot of the institutions have been behaving as if they are really hedging their bets here and preparing for him to win.
I think it was Cuomo who was talking about how he wanted to apologize to Trump for some things.
It was really, really jarring.
There was at least one thing where he said, I think it was after the assassination attempt.
Chris or Andrew? It was the reporter.
The left always accuses you of the thing that they're doing, so it doesn't shock me that they're saying they wouldn't certify the election while clutching their pearls about, you know, Donald Trump potentially not conceding if he loses.
And, of course, we go back to 2016.
Hillary Clinton insisted that she actually won that election and the election was stolen.
A majority of Democrats, according to polling data, believed that Russia literally hacked election machines and changed ballots.
You even go all the way back to the year 2000.
After that election, you had left-wing pundits on national television all across the country saying that George W. Bush lost that election and that Al Gore was really the president and George W. Bush was illegitimate.
And so this idea that conservatives and Republicans are election deniers is just ridiculous because there's been one election that has been called into question by conservatives and Republicans when Democrats have contested literally every single one that they have lost since the year 2000 and probably going even further back than that.
ian crossland
You're allowed to contest elections.
You're allowed to deny them. You should be allowed to.
hannah claire brimelow
Absolutely. I always talk about how Donald Trump suggesting that there was any sort of issue with voting is a threat to democracy.
He was threatening democracy.
There's one podcast who is like flat out.
There's no denying it. That's a fact.
And I find that interesting because if you were concerned that your election wasn't secure, wouldn't the best thing you could do for democracy be to say, I have concerns.
We have to take this seriously.
People don't feel like their votes were accurately recorded.
It is true that there has sort of been this subtle weaving of we can't trust elections if they don't come out the way we think they should into modern narrative.
And I do think that there is a hypocrisy among Democrats where they are always OK with things that they do.
But if conservatives were to do them, they didn't like them.
The obvious ones are like the riots in 2020.
Those seem totally reasonable.
Yeah. What happened at the Capitol?
Horrible end of the world.
I mean, this do as we say and not as we do has been around for a long time.
I think what will happen will be interesting to like the fact that Axios is reporting this is fascinating to me because there would have been a time where this headline like suggesting that maybe the Democrats are doing something they shouldn't wouldn't exist at all.
And I think that speaks to the fact that they actually do not like Kamal Harris that much.
Yeah. I mean, she treated them really badly.
She did not grant interviews for a long time.
She wouldn't hold a press conference forever.
She faked having her headphones in when she was walking past them.
And so in some ways, she's done nothing to endear herself to win any favors among news media who are looking at her and saying...
You are making us look like liars, and now we don't know that we can financially recover from running a pro-DNC news cycle.
seamus coughlin
It's fair. I mean, Tucker Carlson made this point when he was interviewing J.D. Vance, but the media can make a candidate do interviews if they decide to do that.
The media can choose to talk nonstop about the fact that a candidate isn't giving interviews and allow the reputational damage to set in.
And then the candidate will end up doing interviews.
They can do that. They just haven't done that with Kamala.
They've really worn kid gloves with her.
Like, when she gets any pushback, you're a little concerned, like, do they think she's going to lose?
Because they've really been doing everything they can to cover for her.
ian crossland
I thought that 60 Minutes was pretty incredible.
I didn't see the whole interview. They interviewed Waltz and Kamala, and that guy was pretty hard on them.
seamus coughlin
If I'm not mistaken, they changed one of her answers, though.
tim pool
Yeah, they edited it. Apparently more than once.
It's weird. And, you know, Trump's now calling for their broadcast license to be rescinded or whatever.
seamus coughlin
They should release the entire unedited interview.
tim pool
Yes, but it's all fake news.
And so if it is edited, why do they put out a bad interview and then change it later?
Because people are saying the original clip that got sent out made her look really, really bad.
So in the full length they put on TV, they changed it.
And I'm like... The full length makes her look bad.
Look at the betting odds. Her polls are down in swing states and the betting odds are collapsing.
ian crossland
Probably the White House went to the, what was it, CBS? Who owns that show, 60 Minutes?
CBS. And was like, we're going to need you to, if you want to post anything, it's going to be edited.
seamus coughlin
And by the way, if anyone thinks that's far-fetched, we do know that the White House was communicating with Facebook about what information...
Facebook. Facebook. Sorry.
They're going to find out I'm secretly an Italian plant.
tim pool
It was the Kamala code-switching.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, it was. I was born.
Thank a union member.
ian crossland
I don't know if I said probably. No, and she went Irish.
unidentified
That was the weirdest thing. CBS has been the Biden administration's outlet of choice.
seamus coughlin
You saw that, right?
tim pool
I did see that. The clip, Kamala Harris is talking to Colbert, and then all of a sudden she has like 10 seconds of going just Irish.
seamus coughlin
And she also became Latina or Latinx, I guess she would say.
But there was an interview where someone in the audience goes, I love you.
And she goes, oh, I love you back.
I was like, what? Yes.
Did you see that? It was great.
I'm like, this woman has so many different accents.
She's very talented. Kamala, if you want a voice actor for Freedom Tunes, I'd be happy to have you.
ian crossland
Happy to have you. I wonder if people, like the big establishment money, like BlackRock money, international money that's been supporting this AstroTurf campaign of Kamala Harris is like wondering if she's going to betray them at this point.
They're like, she's just not trustworthy at all.
seamus coughlin
Here's the thing. I cannot imagine anyone in politics seeing her as a threat on any level.
I think whoever her handlers are, are not worried about her being able to get one over on them.
tim pool
Oh, yeah. That's why they're happy with it.
Although I think they've resigned to losing.
I mean, look, one of the theories we've had for the past year is that they can't build up any kind of campaign to beat Donald Trump.
So they said, who can we sacrifice this time around?
The Democrats have to have a nominee.
There can't be no nominee. But they're like, Newsom?
Nah, Newsom's not going to win, and we could maybe use him next time around.
Buttigieg? Well, he definitely won't win, but he might be administration cabinet worthy.
Who don't we care about at all who we can just say fine right off and then try again in four years?
seamus coughlin
Kamala. If I'm not mistaken, they actually had a legal obligation to keep her as the candidate if they wanted to retain the campaign finance.
tim pool
And even that is questionably legal.
Yeah. Because they're using, apparently she's got her own FEC number, and Biden's got one, and she's begun using his despite having a different one, and there's a huge controversy apparently no one cares about that Biden can't give his money to Kamala.
Look, let me put it this way.
That whole thing pissed me off.
Imagine if I said to you, dear viewer, hey guys, give me $10 a month at TimCast.com and I will keep working day and night, 16 hours a day and weekends.
Then you do. And I'd say, thank you for your money.
Ian, you're in charge. Bye, everybody.
You'd be like, what?
seamus coughlin
That's what Biden did.
Now you're dealing with a completely different argument, a completely different situation, and it's probably an argument you can't make.
So I do think they were stuck with Kambala because of that.
ian crossland
I would think that they would have to use, like, what is it, the 25th Amendment to have Biden removed from office in order to keep the money for that office?
Maybe that wouldn't even work.
seamus coughlin
I don't know. Which is so funny because they have effectively done that, right?
We have a de facto 25th Amendment situation where everyone knows he's not in charge and hasn't been since long before he stepped out of the campaign, but the media just covers for them.
ian crossland
I was talking to my mother about this, who's pretty open-minded, and I was like,
explaining to Kamala Harris, I was like, they didn't have a primary. She's like,
well, no, I mean, I think they did. And I was like, no, they didn't actually.
They just selected Kamala Harris. She's like, oh. I was like, I think what maybe
had happened, conspiracy theory, is that they waited until it was too late in the process to
have a primary, and then they made the guy resign. And we're like, hey, we have no other choice.
She was like, that's very smart of them. I was like, yes, and very evil, very highly intelligently
evil, if that's what they did, bypassing the democratic process and threatening democracy.
tim pool
Threatening democracy?
ian crossland
Literally, massive threat to democracy to install a candidate.
In fact, the Democratic Party's super candidates is a threat to democracy.
It strips the people's ability to choose their candidate.
tim pool
What if we just chose who the president would be by NASCAR? Yeah, there you go.
seamus coughlin
Problem solved, right? Honestly, that'd be pretty cool.
The president, the candidate has to sponsor a race car, and then if your race car wins, you become the president.
tim pool
But it's got to be by points at the end of the season.
I'll just do one race. End of 2023, when does the season start?
unidentified
February. Around October, yeah.
seamus coughlin
Perfect, look at that. Oh, because then someone would get 8,000 points the night of the election.
unidentified
Yeah. Does that happen in NASCAR? 8,000 held in NASCAR time.
tim pool
Kamala's car wins 10 races at 3 in the morning.
What races were those?
unidentified
The results are in!
hannah claire brimelow
I've seen pictures of some NASCAR races where the crowds are holding Trump flags and stuff.
Does it feel political or not really?
unidentified
Not really. I think that's more of a stands thing.
When you're in the infield, they're really strict.
They don't want any messaging, anything like that to be involved.
And I think it's more because they don't want to be involved, regardless of if it's left or right.
tim pool
But that's where Let's Go Brandon was born.
unidentified
Exactly. Amazing. Which ruined that poor guy's career.
Did it really? Brandon Brown, yeah.
He was done.
I think he was gone after a year after that.
ian crossland
Really? He's done racing? Because of that?
unidentified
No one would get behind him and support him or try to sponsor him.
He kind of went all in with the Let's Go Brandon thing.
seamus coughlin
Oh, that was a strategic error on his point.
It was a strategic error, but also that guy got dealt a bad hand.
tim pool
No, no. He should have asked Trump to sponsor him.
Maybe he tried and didn't work, but if I was him, I would go like, hey, look.
Nobody wants to sponsor Let's Go Brandon.
And because of that, it's bad for my career.
Trump sponsored the Let's Go Brandon car.
Trump would have done it. Yeah.
Unless he asked that I'm wrong.
hannah claire brimelow
Trump's not affiliated with his businesses right now.
And so, like, his campaign can't fund a car.
unidentified
That's true, right? Trump Jr.
would have done it, right? And they definitely don't allow, like, if it said Trump anywhere on it, they wouldn't allow it.
tim pool
No, but they'd sponsor Let's Go Brandon.
So the message is there on the track every day with people cheering Let's Go Brandon.
unidentified
That's hilarious. He actually, I think he was supported by the Let's Go Brandon coin.
There's a crypto coin for a while.
And NASCAR wouldn't even approve that.
tim pool
Well, I mean, that crypto stuff is silly.
unidentified
But they didn't want Let's Go Brandon on NASCAR. They didn't want to be involved in it at all.
I mean, I guess for good reason.
You know, just controversy and whatnot.
tim pool
So he's like not racing anymore?
unidentified
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's done.
Wow, that's kind of sad. I blame Joe Biden.
seamus coughlin
Joe Biden is destroying...
Joe Biden's taking a job from another America.
ian crossland
Yet another victim. I think when you're doing like arts and entertainment or athletics in general, the way you want to instill your political endeavors is to get things done through it.
Not through getting a candidate.
Not about the people. It's about what needs to be changed in society.
Let's write a song about that.
Or let's talk about that on my show as I'm a hot athlete in the off-season or whatever.
But if you get too fetishy about individuals, it gets really like poison pill.
Especially for the big money.
They don't want to get tied into a guy.
But movements about end the Vietnam War, that was great.
A lot of people could get on board with that, but they weren't singing about how great Nixon was or how great JFK was or any of that stuff.
tim pool
Maybe they should have been. I don't know, though.
ian crossland
I don't know, because, like, Buffalo Springfield...
tim pool
People have written Donald Trump songs, you know, and, like, FJB, and they're kind of...
seamus coughlin
Did he really? No, Placeboing made an edit of Eminem where it sounds like he's doing a pro-Trump song.
tim pool
No, no, I thought you were saying anti-Trump.
seamus coughlin
Well, Eminem did do an anti-Trump thing.
Right. Yeah, he did. But Placeboing made it a pro-Trump one.
ian crossland
Like, you'd want to make a song about ending or making your interest on your student loans tax deductible.
Have that in your song, as opposed to singing about Donald Trump.
And that's how you'll get all of society to get on board with the movement that Donald Trump is sort of part of.
tim pool
I bet if we made a Tim Kass song that was just like Donald Trump for like five minutes, it would like top number one on iTunes.
ian crossland
For a minute, though. We could make a long-lasting one that sings about fixing the ills of society.
seamus coughlin
Everyone just says Donald Trump.
Like, that's all the lyrics. But then you have like a rap feature where he starts rapping the name Donald Trump over and over again.
tim pool
You know what I'll do? We have so many high-profile people that come and go, just ask them to say Donald Trump's name, and then create a song where it's just every high-profile personality saying Donald Trump.
It'll be the number one song in the world.
ian crossland
For like a week. Yeah.
But you want to do a song that's the number one song in the world for like 10 years, that people remember, that's like, this is how we fix the economy.
seamus coughlin
That's what this song was about. We need to make the Macarena of the 2020s, and it's just going to be Donald Trump.
No, no. I mean, Macarena kind of is pro-Kamala.
tim pool
There we go. Or Mambo No.
5. Remember that one? No.
Or the Cha-Cha Slide.
Was that what it was called? The Cha-Cha Slide?
seamus coughlin
Take it back now, y'all.
That's the one with the Cha-Cha Slide? Yeah.
tim pool
Don't go left. Take it back.
seamus coughlin
Oh my gosh.
hannah claire brimelow
I think the question is, do you want to make something that is art and has a value behind it, or are you more interested in political messaging through a medium that is often used for art?
I mean, this is something that we've talked about with Tom McDonald.
He'll make these songs that are about Trump or whatever, and it's not that they're not good and that people aren't entertained by them, but it's definitely more about politics than about necessarily...
Other things, like a creative display as an artist.
It's about the political messaging.
And that's what you want to do. It's totally fine, but it's just different.
I think that there is this political fatigue in America.
Well, you'll see some people are into that stuff and some people will just pull farther away.
tim pool
Politics is pop culture. It's been that way for, what, like 10 years?
ian crossland
I don't agree. Longer.
It's true. It was from like 2016 to 19, but it's not popular.
It's un-pop culture.
It's like disgusting refuse culture, but it is popular, but it's not loved culture.
tim pool
Politics is pop culture.
ian crossland
It doesn't mean... It's like infamy.
It's not like, you know, it's like disliked.
It's popular, but it's disliked.
And that's why it's popular. I don't...
tim pool
And this may be true since Obama.
But no, I disagree.
It's the people hate Donald Trump, but the Democrats love Kamala Harris.
They love whoever their cult leader is.
ian crossland
I don't think that's real love.
It's pop culture, bro.
tim pool
Pop culture is the TV talent.
Look at Colbert. Colbert opens his show.
When they put Colbert in that position on the Late Show, what's the show called?
They're all Late Something Show.
When they put Colbert on it, Colbert was a political commentator, satirical comedian.
And when they announced that Late Night was going to have him hosting, I was kind of like, really?
Because he does politics. And then he started doing his opening monologues or all the Colbert politics.
They intentionally made pop culture politics.
Or they chased after this for whatever reason.
But it is true. You take a look at...
It's like songs that bubble up, independent music that really hits the top of the charts.
You'll see like Bryson Gray will make a song, FJB or whatever, and then boom, number one sales popping up on the Billboard Hot 100.
They're desperately trying to keep that stuff away, but they can't.
It is what it is, whether you like it or not.
ian crossland
I think this new Tim Kass music song that's coming out is going to be a pop hit.
Oh, yeah. That's really good.
Have you played that live yet, or is that going to just wait until it launches?
tim pool
No one's ever heard it. Do people even know the name? That song's actually been done for a year.
ian crossland
I know. It is good. I listened to it like ten times the other night.
Just Ian's a big fan. It's Ian Crossland, Tim Pool, Carter Banks.
Out of the park on that one.
tim pool
You know what we could do with this song that's coming out?
It's, um, the lyrics are, uh, first person, uh, it's, it's from the, it's, it's written from the perspective of someone who wants to rule the world, basically.
And so we could make the music video, we're working on a music video that's fun and silly, we could just make it a music video where Kamala Harris is going around just, like, abusing people.
ian crossland
It's, it's wonderful because it's apolitical, but it has that meaning of, like, obsessive oligarchs, like, someone that wants to own the world through a month, through power, right?
tim pool
Yeah. And the lyrics are first person, like, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that.
ian crossland
It's kind of like a fortunate son.
I'm not a fortunate son.
I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth, but Creedence Clearwater Revival, like, they didn't mention politicians by name, but you knew who they were talking about.
tim pool
But it would be funny if, like, the music video was Kamala Harris walking around and she, like, steals a homeless guy's cup of change and then, like, you know, kicks over his sign and then she, like, grabs a coffee from somebody and then just, like, drinks it and throws it on the ground and looks at him and...
Like, the whole music video was just her doing whatever she wanted.
seamus coughlin
Just her walking down the street, like, yeah, bullying people.
unidentified
Right. That would, like, actually kind of make me like her more.
tim pool
That's the song. Okay, the song we're putting out that we're hoping to have released by Halloween is basically, imagine Kamala Harris walking down the street and just, like, she grabs, there's, like, a busker playing guitar, she grabs the guitar and smashes it and throws it in the garbage.
seamus coughlin
It's like, But it has to be one shot.
The video is one shot and the camera is just following her as she walks through town and just bullies everyone she sees.
tim pool
That is what the song is.
ian crossland
The lyrics are basically that.
That song is about, it's great.
seamus coughlin
That's super funny, dude. Yeah.
tim pool
All right, we're going to go to Super Chat.
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Give us ten if they let you because it really does help.
It does. Apparently, that's how it works.
The more stars you have, the more they bump you up and recommend you to other people.
And oh boy, they don't want to recommend us.
No. I don't want to say too much, but my understanding is basically if you're like...
Daily Wire or Crowder or any right-wing podcast, you're basically just never getting anywhere.
Good luck. Alright, we'll grab some super chats from you, though, my friends.
And also become a member at TimCast.com.
Because we're going to have a members-only uncensored show, which will be a hoot and a half.
We're going to give you that extra half tonight.
But not a holler. Because we love you.
seamus coughlin
He won't do a hoot and a holler, but he will do a hoot and a half.
tim pool
And then we can tell you about our shenanigans.
Seamus and I are engaged in shenanigans.
It is really funny. I don't want to say it on the main show.
seamus coughlin
It's kind of funny. It's really funny.
We were emotionally intelligent enough to come up with a really good joke.
tim pool
Yeah, on some woke leftists.
Yeah, yeah. And it's happening.
But you'll have to be a member because we're going to keep this one of the members' show.
So go to TimCast.com right now.
Click Join Us. Because we do need your support to basically run the operation.
But then Seamus and I can spill the beans on...
I think we might get in trouble in some way if people find out, you know?
seamus coughlin
We'll see. We'll see. I almost want to see if it just bubbles up on its own.
I want to see. Let's talk about the members only.
tim pool
It's funny. You're going to love it.
You're going to love it. All right. Anyway, let's grab some Super Chats.
SD says, because cool coffee hangouts cost money.
Well, we are working on it, and we are really, really close to the finalization for national expansion of Casper locations.
I know our location basically is paralyzed.
We're trying to get the flooring put on the first floor.
It's just like, yeah, it's brutal.
So we can't do the election event.
I can't say anything just about where plans are, so nobody say anything.
But we are going to have big, big, big plans for our election coverage, but we can't do the event like we wanted to.
We wanted to get a venue. Then we couldn't.
Then we were like, we'll use our own.
Now we can't. And so I'm just like...
Man. But it's okay because we have contingencies upon contingencies to bring you a great show.
Our plan for Election Day is to be live from about 5 p.m.
until 2 a.m.
or longer. And probably we're going to be live extended the next day as well because we ain't going to get results on Election Day.
We are going to be cowering in fear with our emergency food buckets and piles of gold in cobble pots.
seamus coughlin
Exactly. All right.
unidentified
Here we go. Let's see.
tim pool
We'll grab some more Super Chats.
Vexkun says, Yeah, dude.
Bro. Vanilla WoW was the greatest game ever made, just hands down.
When they released Burning Crusade, it lost its luster, and I slowly stopped playing it.
And then you could see it.
There was something about the difficulty in finding groups, the websites required.
So they have a dungeon.
It's a dungeon. You're going to do a raid, and you need 40 people to do it.
It's not easy. And so you have to find groups of friends.
And so they kept turning to this thing where they're like, let's make it easier for regular people who are joining the game to play.
What did that do? It made it so they had this auto-cue thing where you're like, cue me up.
And then you'd randomly join a group.
The group would be like, you don't know how to play.
You suck. And you're bringing us down.
I don't want to do this. So they made the dungeons easier.
The game is stupid now.
unidentified
I don't play it. It was a living, breathing world in vanilla.
I know. You had to go around.
You would actually have to run to an instance, and everybody ran there together, and you met up.
It was so much fun. It was like its own living world that you could get lost in.
And then when they started queuing it up, I mean, I remember going through the old world, and there was no one in it.
Because everybody was just queuing in Dalaran.
tim pool
Oh, yeah. In the original game, you're in Stormwind, right?
If you're playing Alliance. And it's like, hey, we're going to do VC. And then you're like, I've got to run to Windfall.
And so it literally took you like 10 minutes of just having your character run all the way there into the cave, fighting through the cave to get to the dungeon.
And Van Cleef was what they called the dungeon.
Was it Undermines? I think it was called something.
unidentified
The Deadmines, yeah. The Deadmines.
ian crossland
There you go. You can play those again now in the new expansion.
tim pool
Yeah, but it's not the same. It's not the same.
ian crossland
It's never been the same. It's stupid.
They've ruined it. And Warlocks used to be awesome because they could teleport their party members.
tim pool
But anyway, I'm 38, so if you're talking about World of Warcraft, you are talking to middle-aged people, I guess.
ian crossland
What was the super chat? I should have stuck around for that one.
tim pool
I had to urinate, though. That they're trying to get young voters with World of Warcraft.
Oh, yeah. All right.
seamus coughlin
They're trying to get working-class people with Miller to highlight.
unidentified
It's right. It's such an embarrassing— It's better than Bud Light.
seamus coughlin
Well, it's just they're so misguided.
Okay, so Trump got shot and then stood back up, and they think they're going to convince us that Tim Walz is the manly candidate because he pointed at an air filter.
It's so embarrassing.
tim pool
Alright, Daniel Halpin says, does Seamus know the patron saint of spoons is Saint Pantoleon?
seamus coughlin
I did not know that. I don't know why that would be relevant to me.
tim pool
And you do know what Saint Timothy is the patron saint of, right?
seamus coughlin
Stomach aches, right? Gastrointestinal distress.
Yep, yep, yep. Saint Pantoleon?
hannah claire brimelow
There really is a saint for everything. There is, yeah.
tim pool
And so you're supposed to pray to St.
Timothy when you're having stomach problems or you're stuck on a toilet.
ian crossland
Who's the saint of music?
seamus coughlin
That's a good question.
tim pool
Seamus, you should know these things. I should know every patron, too.
seamus coughlin
There's so many. There's so many saints, man.
hannah claire brimelow
There's so many saints. There'll be one for music, one for musical performance, one for the creator of instruments.
They just dole them out.
seamus coughlin
St. Genesius is performing?
Let me look up. Wow. All right.
tim pool
Let me read this one. We got Christopher Shipley says, Maryland ballots are being tampered with.
My wife is a dem. Received hers today.
I'm a Republican and didn't.
I checked and I'm not registered.
I have been for years and even voted in local and primaries this year.
We are for Trump. Wow.
unidentified
Interesting. Creepy.
tim pool
All right. Donnie Rocket says, Tim, please, you are the greatest and I love you.
You are always the best and I will be a fan forever.
Just kidding. He said, Tim, please shut up on this for the 1000th time.
On what? See, Donnie, when you super chat, I can make you say whatever I want.
No, just kidding. I'll read your super chat.
He told me to shut up. Shut up on what?
The ballot thing. What thing?
unidentified
When I said ballots should be blank. Oh, you've been saying it a lot?
tim pool
No, I respect the...
How much did he send?
ian crossland
Was it $2? Interesting philosophy.
tim pool
I respect the Super Chat, the $1.99 you sent, which means...
ian crossland
I think it means iPhone. But also, the reason I think you keep bringing it up is because you know it's not quite perfect, but it's a good thing to craft.
tim pool
Also, here's a secret most people don't know.
If it says $4.99 in your Super Chat, you're on an iPhone.
If it's a 0-0, you're on an Android.
Wow. Yeah, I believe that's what it is, right?
iPhone is 99? Yep.
It defaults to 99, and they do that intentionally so they can track what devices people are using.
ian crossland
Creepy, right? Yeah, doesn't that knock you out from your letter count, too?
You gotta get over $5 to get, like, 200 letters?
tim pool
It counts as... Oh, cool.
DexandDice LLC says, turn one basic, land Sol Ring, Arcane Signet.
What do you want to play next?
Side note, if Kamala wins, don't think my shop can endure four more years of this.
Enjoy the superchats and membership while you can, good sir.
ian crossland
Spoon, ha ha. I want to play my mana vault after that, but also you should ban Sol Ring.
tim pool
Nope. So, they banned Jeweled Lotus, and I'm still using it, and it doesn't, all it does is make, I've got wacky commanders that are too big to play, and with Jeweled Lotus, you can actually play them in a meaningful way, but they still lose.
So, you know, get out of here.
ian crossland
Maybe if it's just Solring, you don't need to ban it.
tim pool
All right. Well, it is.
Here we go. Andy Babandy says, please pray for my badass fiance.
I just got back from an ultrasound appointment and turns out our first pregnancy is going to put us over replacement rate.
She's having triplets!
Dude. Wow.
God bless all and keep up the great work.
Wow. Bravo. Good sir.
ian crossland
I'm wondering if there's something about us needing to increase our birth rate that people are just having more twins now.
It's like divinity or something.
tim pool
Matt Walsh has two sets of twins.
hannah claire brimelow
Wow. And I don't know if this is true for him, but twins increase in America when more people start using fertility treatments.
But this seems like it might be spontaneous, naturally curling, which is amazing.
That's the best way to launch yourself over the replacement waste.
tim pool
Just do it all at once. And it's the man, right?
When there's twins or triplets or quadruplets, like the guy just means you're a really manly guy.
hannah claire brimelow
Triplets, it might be she released an egg and one of the eggs also split.
tim pool
Nope, the man. You're a man.
ian crossland
Yeah, man. I think older women might have a higher rate of twins and triplets because it's like, well, if you're going to do it, now's the time.
Just have them all now so you don't have to do it.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, the body releases more eggs later.
tim pool
Is that really what it does? Yeah.
Wow. So older women have twins.
hannah claire brimelow
It's common for higher rates of twins among older gestating women.
Interesting. But, you know, in this case, I don't know if you're 20 years old and spontaneously had triplets.
tim pool
Like, that's crazy. All right, Swift Titan says, Trump came to Detroit and I was working in the other room, surprised that he was here.
Unfortunately, I couldn't see because of tight security.
And of course, my co-workers were talking about doing stuff to him.
Whoa, that's creepy, dude.
Creepy. Ben Hickson says, U.S. would be better with preferential voting system.
Australia is expecting more independent parties like the Libertarian Party to be voted in to break up our two-party system.
I don't know. There's a lot to break down.
David, Toronto says the South is less racist.
We are just more intolerant of stupidity.
Guy from Boston came here and was more racist and didn't think we had paved roads.
Well then. What have we here?
Robert Steinhauer says perhaps in order to vote you need to pass the same test that immigrants have to pass in order to move here.
Much love panel. You guys do a great job all the time.
YouTube needs more than 200 characters.
Indeed sir. Bryce Moni says, as a current WOW player, the majority of players are Trump supporters.
That is true. They had to ban people using names like Trump, Trump Daddy, MAGA 2024, because, like, everybody was just trying to do it.
ian crossland
I was campaigning for Obama hard in 2007 on Warcraft.
I'd go into the trade channel and be like, vote Obama in 2008.
He's awesome. He cares about communication.
tim pool
Bring us together. I gotta tell you, man.
OG WoW was so crazy.
So they had an auction house, right?
And the way it works, for those that don't know World of Warcraft, is if you want to...
There was an enchantment for weapons.
Okay, you have a sword.
Someone who could train their character to cast enchantments on weapons
would get something called fiery weapon enchantment, or whatever it was called.
So we just called it fiery.
Everybody wanted it.
You needed a resource in order to give someone a fiery weapon.
So those resources, I believe that was small radiant shards in the auction
My brother would buy all of them up and then relist all of them for one gold more.
house.
And anytime anybody would list one of them, he'd buy it and relist it, creating a monopoly.
ian crossland
He and I are so alike.
tim pool
And just eventually the prices got ridiculous and people were like, we can't afford to buy these anymore.
Like, what do we do? Because he was just like, I keep buying them and selling them, but people want it so bad they keep giving me money.
One of the funny things people used to do in the game is one guy has a really crappy item.
That's not soulbound. Their buddy posts in the trade chat willing to buy a crappy item for, you know, slightly above market rate.
Then, a second later, some would say, willing to sell for a slightly below market rate.
So somebody would be like, whoa, if I are slightly at market rate.
This guy would be like, if I buy that, I can resell it right away for 10 more gold.
He'd buy it from the one guy.
Then the other guy would go, no thanks, I got one already.
So the guy would end up buying it, and that's how they trick people into buying things.
That game was wild. And then they ruined it.
Well, Chinese bots came in and started mining gold and flooding the market, and then all other sorts of problems came in.
Yeah. Let's talk about real things in that World of Warcraft and Magic Gathering.
How about that? Joshua Kemble says, On the blank paper ballot thing, it's not about your academic level, it's about how well you are informed.
There are ways to make sure you spell the names right if you care enough.
That's right. I like the jingle idea.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm telling you. A whole new era of political messaging in this country.
The jingle. Bring it back.
tim pool
For the best person in the Republican Party, vote V-I-V-E-K-R-A-M-A-S-W-A-M-Y. That's all right.
hannah claire brimelow
Got to workshop that one a little bit, but...
tim pool
Or he just changes his name to, like, Bill.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly. All of our presidents for the next 200 years will just be like, Josh.
hannah claire brimelow
But then will they be like, if you change your name, will they be like, you're dishonest.
seamus coughlin
Like, you want to be not true to who you are.
tim pool
That's hilarious. Garrett Lancaster says, the Waltz Harris stunt with Warcraft was definitely because Blizzard is one of the wokiest of woke companies.
And that's why their game has completely collapsed.
I was reading something recently.
They claim to have, like, a large user base.
And people were posting that the servers are always empty.
Nobody's really playing all that often.
It's definitely not like it used to be.
But how are they claiming to have all of these players in the game?
ian crossland
We had a lot of servers.
I know that. A lot more than they used to.
tim pool
I think the last one I played was Legion.
When was that? A decade ago or something?
Eight years ago? Maybe, yeah.
unidentified
I played Draenor. Warlords of Draenor.
tim pool
I tried playing that and just walked away.
That was ten years ago. It got really grindy.
ian crossland
I just go to that barracks and just keep sending my dudes out on daily quests.
I was like, it feels like a job and I'm not getting paid.
tim pool
But you know what is still based?
ian crossland
It's Alteric Valley. Yeah, Battlegrounds are legit.
tim pool
Alteric Valley has always still been awesome, and it was funny because I didn't play for 15 years, and then I went to Alteric Valley as a rogue, and you can still stealth cap the flags over and over again using the same strategies because people are dumb and don't learn.
ian crossland
I think the action is still fun in that it's hard.
You've got to watch where you're stepping, so you're constantly moving, and you've got to pay attention.
At least as a healer, it's really fun.
I play with a druid healer, and...
You've got to bounce around. You've got to constantly be healing everywhere.
You're like, lots of attention to detail, super fast-paced.
It's just the community aspect of it's been stripped because of the way they've simplified that aspect of it.
tim pool
All right. Conejito de la Muerte says, At the risk of making Ian explode, did you see that a white paper was released in August demonstrating a low-cost method of recycling microplastics into graphene?
ian crossland
No, I didn't, but tag me on that on Twitter.
tim pool
That's cool. See, Ian's a poser.
seamus coughlin
You might be. You didn't know that about graphene.
tim pool
You like graphene, Ian?
Name three ways to synthesize graphene.
ian crossland
Flash jewel heating, chemical vapor deposition, and scotch tape off of graphite.
seamus coughlin
Oh, I got him! You just named three.
tim pool
Scotch tape off of graphite.
ian crossland
That's how they discovered it.
They pulled scotch tape off of graphite.
seamus coughlin
They're like, what is this shape? Listen, he's a real graphene fan.
You can't take that. He's a graphene fan.
tim pool
The first two were actually impressive.
ian crossland
I don't know what you said.
It's flash jewel heating, which is probably what he's talking about, where you put carbon in a tube and then you hit it with 7,000 degree electricity.
You pulse it at 0.1 milliseconds and then it turns into black powder graphene, which you can make cars out of.
I'd like to see you racing a graphene car at some point.
Lightweight and strong. All right, let's go.
tim pool
Corwag says, Michigan, their troll here.
Whitmer has not been a good governor since 2019.
Also, that video makes it look like she is jealous of Bill Clinton and his secretary.
Finally, an unpopular opinion is Schneider was better even with Flint.
Wow. Indeed.
I went to Flint. Here's a story for you.
And I collected water samples from a local house, from a local restaurant, from the river itself.
And I collected multiple samples of each, and at the river, several different points.
And I had this idea when I was working at Fusion.
I was like, hey, here's what we can do.
Let's use a mass spectrometer to break down what's in the water and explain to people what the problem is.
unidentified
And guess what we found? Nothing.
tim pool
In all of the different samples, we found nothing.
And they were like, this clearly must be a mistake.
And I was like, we went to NYU. I gave them like, I don't know, 30 samples of water.
And then they were like, we'll run them through the mass spectrometer and we'll give you back everything that's in the water.
And no lead.
ian crossland
Nothing. What did that make you believe after that?
tim pool
I don't know. And I asked them, like, do we report that we did this and found nothing?
And they were like, well, because everybody had been reporting that there was lead and other contaminants in the water, the concern was that we did something wrong.
So we would need to confirm this.
And I was like...
I went to like three houses.
I went to two restaurants.
I went to the river itself and collected water from different points at the river.
I don't know what else you do.
unidentified
And we found nothing. Someone was talking about that with pipes.
tim pool
I think it was like high selenium or something.
I'll tell you this, though. I went home to Miami and we found a ton of uranium in our water.
ian crossland
Oh, wow. Yeah. Are there uranium mines down there?
tim pool
No, it's from fertilizer. Oh, wow.
Yeah. That was crazy.
ian crossland
I wonder if a lot of the flint lead was coming out of pipes and not the...
tim pool
That's why I went to a couple houses.
And people were like, well, you probably went to houses that weren't affected.
And I was like, perhaps. But these were not well-off houses.
I forgot how I did.
I knocked on a door. I think I went knocking on doors and saying that I'm a journalist working on a story about the water crisis in Flint.
We're looking to collect water samples, and people let me in their houses, and they were not good houses.
ian crossland
Somebody messaged me about lead, and they were like, actually, lead pipes are safe, and they don't leach lead into the water.
unidentified
I haven't confirmed that data, but it's interesting.
ian crossland
It's only if they get aggravated or scraped or something, but maybe.
unidentified
I'm not sure. Letter microplastics, which is worse.
tim pool
Alright, VCC Board Repair says, bought some cast brew coffee on 830, but have not received it.
My package appears to be lost.
Cast brew support seems to be no help.
M-I-S-O-L. I don't know.
Usually we have a crack team that takes care of everything, and usually it's something like an email got lost or whatever, or got mixed up in junk or something.
So check your junk folders, and then I'll talk with my team about VCC Board Repair to make sure you get your coffee.
It's your coffee. You deserve it now.
ian crossland
I was drinking some Appalachian Nights earlier, and Graphene Dream earlier than that.
Good stuff. Get it.
It's really good. Have you had it yet, Seamus?
seamus coughlin
I haven't had Graphene Dream. I've had a couple different flavors.
I usually have the one that's most common that you guys have.
tim pool
We're working on the Seamus blend, and we're going with either Irish coffee, Whiskey Dream, Whiskey Nights.
You drink whiskey? Whiskey in the morning.
Those are all the different...
So we're getting eclectic with it to give them a bunch of varieties, but then we've got whiskey light, whiskey dark, whiskey medium.
ian crossland
We're just Irish coffee, and it's just a Seamus with the clover hat on.
tim pool
Oh, that is a good idea.
unidentified
Whiskey's clover. It's just coffee, and it's just delicious.
ian crossland
It's offensive to my people. A rich Irish blend.
tim pool
Bro, Irish people make good whiskey.
Bill Lemon says, question for Cody.
I was a diehard NASCAR fan until the Bubble Wallace garage incident.
Sad because I became a fan of his when he was up and coming.
How has it been for drivers since the league went woke?
unidentified
It's not represented anywhere.
Everything's really laid back and chill, and no one really talks about anything as far as, I guess you would say, DER. There's no enforcing anything on anybody.
You just show up and You know, you run your race, and it's really something you don't notice.
Now, granted, look, I'm in the Arkham Menard series, and maybe it's not prevalent there, but you don't really hear much, you know?
All you really hear is, you know, like the Super Chat says, people will ask me about, like, the Bubba Wallace thing.
And that's it. And you don't really hear much about anything else.
hannah claire brimelow
Can you explain the difference between the series for me?
unidentified
I'm ignorant on that. Yeah, so there's the Cup series, the Xfinity series, which is basically like the one right below it, and then the Truck series, and then the Arkham Menard series.
So there's their four national touring series.
Basically, you get approved for full license for all of them.
You can jump in and out of cars and do whatever.
Basically, it's how much money you have, how much backing you have, how much experience you have.
tim pool
How much do you need for the big, big league?
unidentified
Oh, gosh. $60 million a year, probably.
Whoa! And that's to be in like a midfield thing, you know?
tim pool
Who's number one right now?
unidentified
Oh, if I had to really pick a person, it'd be Kyle Larson.
tim pool
So what do you think his budget is?
unidentified
Oh, it's up there.
$200 million? It's something insane.
I mean, he's ran an IndyCar, and there's talks of him going out, trying Formula One and all kinds of stuff.
ian crossland
Like the top three, like just eclipsed like 50 times, well, twice as much as the bottom number four, five, and six are like these...
unidentified
With the Cup Series, the money's probably a little bit closer with all the teams.
But when you get down to the Truck Series and the Xfinity Series, they're still kind of grassroots.
There's some people that are.
You do the Truck too? I'm approved for the Trucks as well.
I had plans to do two truck races this year.
Next year, I have plans to do way more.
But yeah, it's all about funding.
And there's disparity. I mean, there's people that show up in our series.
showing up in an old truck and they have an old trailer and they roll their old car out
and just start and park it.
They just start it and they park it and get out of it just so they can get to the next
one and the next one and the next one.
And then you have the teams in the exact same series spending 10, 20 million dollars.
So there is a big, you know, money disparity, but there is still a big grassroots element to all these things.
ian crossland
So there's no like salary cap type thing?
Like you can't spend more than X because you're going to get the most high-tech car that's going to...
unidentified
Not that I know of.
I'm pretty sure they spend...
I mean, Hendrix Motorsports talks about how they don't make money.
They just spend all the money they can and just to be successful.
And they don't bring any profit or something like that.
And a lot of these teams, I feel like they probably do do that.
Especially teams that are engineered only to bring up up and coming like drivers, right?
So there's a lot of the teams in our series are specifically there to put young teenagers in
to get them ready to go to the next level.
And that's the only reason they're there.
Then you have the old guys like me.
I'm basically prehistoric when it comes to...
ian crossland
Because of your age?
unidentified
Yeah, I'm 34. When do people normally start driving?
Well, in the 90s, you would hear about Earnhardt and all these guys starting in their mid-30s.
Clint Boyer, they'd come in their maximum late 20s, early 30s.
And now these kids are starting at four years old.
They're in go-karts. At 12 years old, they're in big, late models.
At 15, 16, they're running an R-series, truck series, stuff like that.
hannah claire brimelow
At 15 in R-series?
unidentified
That seems crazy. But you have to be 18 to do speedways, so fast stuff.
tim pool
So what's the basic skill requirement?
What are your fundamentals in driving to be in the top?
unidentified
I don't know if it's being dumb is one of them.
You have to be kind of dumb because you have to have absolutely no self-preservation.
When you're going into a corner at 190 at Michigan, you have zero fear.
You just throw it in there.
And there's people that will...
They'll be using brakes and whatnot at tracks like this where you don't.
You're just full throttle almost the entire time.
Just paddle the metal? Yeah, and I used to have this idea that you could really go all out for a couple laps and then reel it in, and it's not like that.
You have to be all out on the edge of control, almost wrecking every single lap to be fast.
Oh, man. And it's stressful, man.
We were at Michigan, and I was worn out, man.
And we tapped the wall, and the firewall somehow got separated slightly, and CO2 was leaking into the cabin.
Whoa. And at the end of the race, I just pulled into the pits.
I barely remember any of it, and I just fell out of the car, and an ambulance came and got me.
And I was on oxygen for two hours.
Wow. That's wild. It was brutal.
And these are things you have to go through, and you eventually get used to it, but you have to really maintain hydration.
You have to really... You know, keep those things up and you have to focus on those kind of things.
Because if you get in that car without that kind of stuff, you will be passing out.
ian crossland
You have like a head thing where you're drinking water while you're driving?
And then you say core strength is another part of it?
unidentified
Yeah, core strength. I mean, you're barely moving your ankles, but core strength.
Because when you go into corners at places like Dover, I mean, your neck will start hurting after five laps and then you have 250 more.
tim pool
Is that because you're resisting the G-forces and trying to hold them?
unidentified
Yeah. And you'll get in some seats, man, where there's just an inch gap, and that inch gap ruins everything.
Because you can't lean your head up.
You're having to keep your head up. It's just brutal.
ian crossland
Oh, so you want it kind of tight on your head so your head doesn't move?
unidentified
You want it to where it doesn't move at all.
Because otherwise you're counterbalancing and you start noticing it.
And as soon as you start noticing any uncomfortableness, you're suffering.
You're slowing down. Yeah.
tim pool
Alright, everybody, we're going to go to that members-only show.
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Cody, do you want to shout anything out? Yeah, I have a YouTube channel.
unidentified
It's called Camelot331.
I've been uploading there for about five years now, streaming a few times a week, Monday, Wednesday, and Saturday around 8.30 p.m.
Just, you know, having a good time.
I had a podcast that I had to put on hold because racing full-time, it was just no way.
I could get guests and whatnot and, you know, try to keep it all together.
But that's my YouTube channel, and I also have my Twitter account, CamelCastOff, Which is the fourth one, I think.
I guess I make it a habit of getting banned for really dumb reasons.
I quote tweeted an article randomly and made the exact same joke that the article made and got permabanned.
ian crossland
Before Elon bought it or after?
unidentified
It was right before.
And I'm like tagging Elon.
Please, Elon, you don't understand.
This is my big follower account and I just had to restart over and over and over so I have to just continue to try to build a following on Twitter.
So that's my Twitter camel cast off.
ian crossland
I'd like to see Elon merge those accounts.
tim pool
Seamus, what's up?
seamus coughlin
Everybody, my name is Seamus Coughlin.
I do Freedom Tunes. If you guys like what I do, if you like what I have to say here, check out some of my cartoons.
Go over to Freedom Tunes. We're uploading a cartoon tomorrow.
just about the disaster of these last couple hurricanes and how horribly
Kamala has treated people, how terribly, just how terrible the response has been
and so we rip on her for that. Go over to Freedom Tunes, subscribe, that'll be up
tomorrow and if you like what we're doing, you like the animation, you like
that we're building culture instead of just talking about politics, we're really
trying to create media, then go to freedomtunes.com, become a member. We have
about over 50, I think we're approaching 100, cartoons that are just behind the
paywall just for members. You'll get access to those, you'll get access to our
weekly podcast on how we make the cartoons and you will also be supporting
the show. You might even be able to get a character yourself drawn if you're
donating at a high enough level. Thank you so much. And I'm not a member and he
tim pool
put me in his cartoon and then shot me. That's true, I shot him in a cartoon so
seamus coughlin
if you're not a member, your cartoon character might get drawn and shot, I don't know.
tim pool
Drawn in a cartoon as a cartoon character.
seamus coughlin
Drawn in a cartoon character. Yo, what up?
ian crossland
For real. I love you guys, and thanks for coming.
And now follow me. I'm streaming hard, man.
So YouTube, Twitch, and X. Ian Crossland is where you'll find me.
But I really want you to follow me on Twitch.
I'm building towards Twitch partnership.
Once we get 75 concurrent live viewers on average, it goes to the next level.
It's going to be huge. So follow me on Twitch.
We're streaming on Baldur's Gate 3 I've been doing lately.
World of Warcraft, I know it.
tim pool
I finally started playing Baldrige.
I've beaten that game 50 times.
ian crossland
I know, you animal. I'm playing as a bard.
It's pretty cool so far.
And RimWorld, all sorts of games.
It's super cool. Play music, do guided meditations, a lot of cool stuff.
So follow me, Eddie, in Crossland.
hannah claire brimelow
See you later. Cool. It's been fun having you here, Cody.
Thank you. I feel like I learn new things about sports every time I come on this show.
Awesome. I'm Hannah Claire Brimlow.
You can find me here most nights of the week.
You can also find me on Instagram at HannahClaire.B and on Twitter at HannahClaireB.
Thanks for everything you guys do. Have a good night.
tim pool
We will see you all in the members-only show at TimCast.com if you want to hear about Seamus and I's shenanigans against these liberal woke podcasters.
Our silly shenanigans. We'll see you all over at TimCast.com in a minute.
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