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tim pool
Today, the dam broke.
I mean, news just started pouring out like crazy.
The Supreme Court has ruled the president does have immunity in certain regards, particularly pertaining to his constitutional duties, his official acts, but no immunity for unofficial acts.
Steve Bannon has reported to prison.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has announced she will file articles of impeachment against the Supreme Court for ruling that co-equal branches of government are just that.
And there's a bunch of other stories pertaining to inflation, as well as Joe Biden.
Bill O'Reilly is reporting that Joe Biden is already bowing out of the race.
They just haven't yet figured out how to announce or spin it.
I don't know if that's completely true, but it is what he's reporting.
Tucker Carlson has reported that Obama, behind the scenes, is arguing Biden cannot win and is working against him.
It is a wild day.
Epstein grand jury files have been released.
I haven't even had time to read through any of this stuff.
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We've got a couple of guests.
We've got several guests joining us tonight.
Our first guest, Joshua Lysak.
How's it going, man?
joshua lisec
Pretty dandy, Tim.
Thanks for having me on.
tim pool
Who are you?
What do you do?
joshua lisec
I am a ghost writer.
They call me the based ghost writer.
I do a lot of books for entrepreneurs, politicians, and great grandmas who had a good story and they want to make sure their kids know it.
But recently I've been coming out and speaking my mind and my latest work is with Jack Pasoga, also here, Unhumans the Book, co-authored and forwarded by Stephen K. Bannon, who is a political prisoner, which is a topic of the book, in fact.
tim pool
Indeed.
Yeah, Jack's here.
jack posobiec
Look, I got the shirt right here, folks.
Free Bannon.
Steve Bannon did nothing wrong.
Steve Bannon, earlier today, was marched in with his head held high to FCI Danbury in Connecticut, where he is currently held as a political prisoner.
Peter Navarro is in FCI Miami as a political prisoner.
And we know that all of the J6 Freedom Fighters are currently being imprisoned.
In the gulag in DC, however, comma, we also know that the Supreme Court just came down on this obstruction ruling, which could potentially impact a lot of those a lot of those cases, maybe even knock some time off of them.
And I certainly hope they do.
But look, yeah, we've we've got the new book out.
You know, it's the books coming out.
We mentioned it the last time I was here, Tim.
I've also got a I've got a surprise for Tim later in the show.
We're not gonna bring it up right now because there's too much going on.
But Look, I expected to be here today, Tim, and I expected that we would be having a lot of fun talking about the country going down the tubes.
I didn't realize it would come at a time where they're actually locking up people that we know and people that we're friends with that are going on.
But of course, the entire left is saying, oh, no, no, no, Trump is the one who might do things like that.
And I'm sure we'll get into it.
tim pool
Absolutely.
Libby's hanging out.
libby emmons
I'm here.
I'm hanging out.
I'm trying to do like a really quick read on these Epstein files.
I'm with the Postmillennial and I work, of course, with Jack Posobiec at Human Events.
tim pool
Also, Biden just spoke, and you're also trying to do work.
libby emmons
Vaguely.
Yeah, hey, you know, trying to do work.
hannah claire brimelow
That's what she gets for being the editor of important publications, just to work all the time.
libby emmons
You actually just reminded me I do have a writer working on something.
I told him I'd look at it.
unidentified
There you go.
tim pool
Hannah Clare's hanging out.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow.
I'm a writer for scnr.com.
I'm happy to be here.
Happy Monday, everybody.
Hi, Serge!
unidentified
Yo, let's get started.
tim pool
Here's the big breaking story from the day.
Justices give presidents immunity for official acts further delaying Trump's trial.
Now, Joe Biden just addressed the nation in a five minute speech where he said that presidents are effectively kings now.
And that's insane.
Not true.
There's this ridiculous talking point coming out from the dissenting justices.
Sotomayor, for instance, said that a president could order SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a political rival and they'd be immune.
But I'm pretty sure literally everyone would believe that is not an official act constitutionally held by the president, but a rogue, an act by a rogue president.
And also she mentioned, what if he orders the military to stage a coup?
Also not an official act.
Now, that being said, there could be an overlap there.
And that's why we have impeachment.
So you can impeach and convict the president and then criminally charge him.
But I'll give you the basics.
Held by the Supreme Court in only a few sentences, the constitutionally demanded duties of the president are of course immune.
They ask him to do it.
Official duties as president, which is in the periphery of constitutional obligations.
Of course, there is presumed immunity, though there are some potentials for overlap.
Unofficial acts enjoy no such immunity.
I do not understand in what reality These liberal justices think a president should not be immune as it pertains to his official duties.
That is absolutely nuts.
You're asking someone to run for office, to run this country, and then saying you will criminally prosecute them for doing what the Constitution tells them to do, and they're complaining about it.
So, what this did...
Was it kicked back, the J6 trial to the lower courts, to determine whether or not what Trump did on January 6 was actually an official act, or was it an unofficial act, which is exactly what many pundits predicted, because the lower courts pushed this thing through way too quickly.
What say you, panel?
jack posobiec
I'll go with this.
This is what happens, and Joshua and I have been talking about this a lot, because in the course of writing on humans, we realized that there The problem with the two camps in the U.S.
now, the two majority camps in the political parties, or the political spectrum, if you will, the right and the left, is that the right is hyper-focused on principles.
The left is hyper-focused on power.
So for the right, they'll say, oh, we have the best principles, we are so good, and they have all these philosophical debates about those principles, and libertarians come up and say, what about the non-aggression principle?
And then the left says, well, what can we get away with?
What can we do?
What did these words say?
And so if you have no discernment, then the Constitution is nothing but words on a piece of paper.
Meaning that high crimes and misdemeanors, as you just referenced, Tim, so the Constitution says impeachable for high crimes and misdemeanors.
Well, what does that mean?
High crimes and misdemeanors could be anything!
We decided that—so, to the founders, obviously, that had a set meaning, and you could read the Federalist Papers, and you might do some learning about the language of the time and the rhetoric of the time, and you could discern what high crimes and misdemeanors meant, and you could, oh, say, well, this is how I would apply that, and then you would go in.
But the left doesn't care about that.
The left only cares about power.
They have no principles.
Whereas the right has principles, yet they have no power.
And so if you have principles without power, that is psychopathy.
If you have power without principles, that's tyranny.
This is the situation we're in.
So to them, the plain text reading is all there is because they have no conception of a higher field of justice.
They have no conception of a higher field of understanding what the law should be.
What is a high crime?
It doesn't matter.
Whatever we can get away with matters.
tim pool
So what you're saying is, if we asked, say, Sotomayor, if you did not eat breakfast yesterday, how would you have felt?
jack posobiec
She would say, I eat breakfast every day, Tim.
I wouldn't know.
And I'm pretty sure she does.
That's like the best insult, by the way.
Now, by the way, so ni so to my or, for everything that I've heard, and I will say this, that
she apparently is actually very nice and very polite in real life, and that apparently has
good relationships with like Brett Kavanaugh and Clarence Thomas, has even spoken out against
harassment of the conservative justices in a way that, you know, you really don't hear
from the left.
So I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna come down on her on any of those things.
But at the same time, she's, she just clearly isn't at the caliber that we need our Supreme
Court justices to be.
And Mike Davis was on the show earlier today on human events, and he said, this is kind
of like listening to your your drunken wine and, you know, go on rants on Facebook and
have that be a Supreme Court opinion.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, and there was a certain level of hysteria during arguments when we heard them before.
I mean, everyone was saying, Cassandra Brown Jackson had that line about, well, the Oval Office would become the nest of corruption in America or whatever it was.
There was always sort of a very clear partisan panic.
Where the liberal justices felt like this was only able to be used in a way that was it was bad and you know we had the conservative justice saying these are decisions that will impact the long-term future of the country.
I think in terms of the progressive or the leftist reaction to this you know the only thing they would have settled for is if the Supreme Court came out and said Donald Trump's the worst person on earth and we will personally get the handcuffs and let you guys lock him up.
I mean I think they would have attacked the Supreme Court For any kind of compromise, and this obviously was sort of their worst case scenario.
jack posobiec
So what you're saying, so if this was Joe Biden as president, they would have the opposite opinion?
unidentified
Absolutely.
hannah claire brimelow
Of course, because it doesn't matter.
It only matters that it's wrong.
libby emmons
I think you're exactly right.
tim pool
I'd like to cite... So who whom?
I need to cite Sotomayor here real quick so you can understand.
Actually, you know what I want to do?
The first thing I want to do is just show you Roberts.
I believe it was Roberts who wrote the majority opinion, correct?
unidentified
Held.
jack posobiec
Yes.
tim pool
Under our constitutional structure of separated powers, the nature of presidential powers entitles a former president to absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for actions within his conclusive and preclusive constitutional authority, and he is entitled to at least presumptive immunity from prosecution for all his official acts.
There is no immunity for unofficial acts.
I'm then going to do a quick search for immune, and cite Sotomayor, who says, Orders the Navy SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a political rival?
Immune.
Organizes a military coup to hold them to power?
Immune.
Takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon?
Immune.
Immune.
Very articulate.
libby emmons
This mirrors her comments during oral arguments.
tim pool
The point I'm trying to bring up here is showing you that Sotomayor acts like a feminist blogger and not a, I don't know, highest justice in the land laying down a dissenting opinion.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, who do you think her staff is, right?
Like, they don't write the first drafts on their own.
It's not like it's just the Supreme Court just saying, I'm going to shut myself in my library and type this out.
No, their staff is hugely influential.
And I'm sure that she has gone out of her way to encourage, to offer positions to progressive future lawyers of America.
joshua lisec
You look at each of these words, these are incendiary words meant to escalate tension and FUD, right?
Fear, uncertainty, and doubt, right?
We have hold on to power, bribe, and these are hypotheticals, right?
And the goal is that if you can have someone imagine a hypothetical, then it's as if it's real in their own mind.
And if you stack up a bunch of them, then you have a terror overload, and then you can issue a call to action.
This is effective leftist persuasion.
tim pool
Especially when you're dealing with people who can't understand conditional hypotheticals.
Precisely.
So, if you're dealing with a person and you say to them, this is the joke we made in the beginning of the show, but we'll get serious with it, if you did not eat breakfast yesterday, how would you have felt?
People with low IQs, and this is a meme, I don't know the degree to which it's true, the idea is that people with low IQs can't understand the concept, they'll respond with, but I did eat breakfast yesterday.
I don't know, but what if you didn't?
And they'd say, I don't know, but I did eat breakfast yesterday.
Whereas, average people would be like, if I didn't eat breakfast, I guess hungry? Some people might go, eh, I usually don't
eat breakfast anyway. I probably feel the same. All that matters is that you understand the
concept of a what-if scenario.
jack posobiec
Now, you take someone who can't grasp that. But it's also a what-if scenario and then the
application of that scenario to yourself. So the condition being not just like, you know,
what if astronauts in space encounter aliens and blah, blah, blah, because anyone can kind of do
But it's also how would you actually what is so a theory of mind in this case, just of yourself?
Not even not even a question, by the way, theory of mind of someone else?
How do you how do you think Tim Pool would have felt if Tim Pool hadn't had breakfast yesterday?
tim pool
That's completely So what we get here is, for people who are not smart enough to understand this, orders Navy SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a political rival?
Immune.
Organizes a military coup?
Immune.
For people who can't understand conditional hypotheticals, they're thinking, he's gonna do that!
He's doing this!
And that's what they're trying to— Well, and what's even crazier, though— And it works on MSNBC and CNN.
jack posobiec
Of course.
tim pool
Look at their anchors.
jack posobiec
They were saying, they were saying, could you imagine?
And I saw, I think it was that guy, Keith Gifford or Kyle Gifford, whoever.
And he goes, he goes, could you imagine if the president set up, I don't know, a sham investigation and a special counsel and had them start rounding up people and investigating political, political rivals and their allies and putting them in jail?
I'm like, Steve Bannon went to jail this morning.
You marched him into the gulag.
Peter Navarro is currently in jail.
You just convicted Donald Trump.
No one's above the law.
No one's above the law.
There's tons of people above the law.
And this is where it comes down to, whose law?
Whose democracy?
libby emmons
Well, that goes back to the Fisher case.
unidentified
Not yours.
libby emmons
I mean, you had this situation where, with Fisher, you had this law that was created to prevent accounting fraud being used against January 6th defendants.
jack posobiec
That really shows like... I disagree with the ruling on that.
libby emmons
You disagree with that?
jack posobiec
I disagree with the ruling.
libby emmons
Why?
jack posobiec
Really?
Because they should have struck down 1512c2 in entirety.
libby emmons
Oh, instead of saying it doesn't apply here.
jack posobiec
they should have gotten rid of it.
Because they, no, they punted because Roberts kind of punted on this and said, oh, well,
it doesn't apply in this case because it was completely overbroad because it, it stated
any procedure, any proceeding, government proceeding that is obstructed, this becomes
a now, and they came in and said, well, it really only applies in criminal rulings and
Enron and that's what it was written by, which was where it was basically drafted by Weissman,
uh, who, who ran the Enron case to begin with and the Arthur Anderson case.
And then after that used the same obstruction charge and Will Smith, excuse me, Will Smith,
Will Chamberlain wrote this whole, wrote this whole piece for human events.
I'm thinking Jack Smith, Will Smith, um, you know, wrote this whole piece on, on human
events.
Um, talking about how Weissman was trying to apply 1512 C2 to president Trump for his
conduct in the Mueller probe.
Now we know this was a joke, but it's very clear to me that Weissman and his ilk, these types of people, you can watch them on MSNBC by the way, that's the brain trust.
Don't watch CNN.
Watch MSNBC because you'll know what they're doing.
That's what Steve Bannon always taught me.
Go watch MSNBC and he just has it on 24-7 in the war room.
And you will see what they're planning to do because they kind of, there's only like three or four people with brain cells on the left and they're on MSNBC and it's Weissman and Elias and these guys and Norm Eisen is another one of them.
And we're not saying they're good people, right?
They're incredibly malicious.
They're abjectly malicious, but they will tell you what they're about to do.
And so their idea was to construct a law that we could essentially find anyone guilty of for anything at any time.
That was 1512c2 and it should have been struck down.
And by the way, there's a bunch of legal reporting and legal scholarship that backs this up saying, yeah, this is ridiculous.
Even when it was passed, they said this is completely overbroad and statutes have been struck down on constitutional grounds over over broadness and vagueness in the past.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story from Newsweek.
Speaking of people who can't understand conditional hypotheticals, Supreme Court impeachment plan released by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
unidentified
Rep.
tim pool
AOC announced plans to introduce articles of impeachment against U.S.
Supreme Court justices on Monday, after the court ruled that presidents have immunity for official actions.
The court on Monday ruled that former presidents have absolute immunity for official acts, but none for private acts.
Okay, slow down there, Newsweek.
Absolute immunity only applies to constitutional duties.
Official acts have the presumption of immunity, meaning there's overlap.
They may not, in some circumstances.
And unofficial acts enjoy no immunity.
Now, Ocasio-Cortez, a Democrat from New York, wrote early Monday afternoon that she would introduce articles of impeachment against the court in a post on X. The Supreme Court has become consumed by a corruption crisis beyond its control.
Today's ruling represents an assault on American democracy.
It is up to Congress to defend our nation from this authoritarian capture.
I intend on filing articles of impeachment upon our return.
libby emmons
I feel like she didn't read the ruling.
tim pool
Of course not.
It's just buzzwords she got from MSNBC.
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like she is part of the party that always says, Donald Trump, won't you accept the results of the elections with no question and not conduct any investigations?
So are you saying we are or are not allowed to?
jack posobiec
I have a question for them on that.
Do you accept the results of the Democrat primary?
Do the Democrats accept the results of their own primary?
Because I seem to remember Joe Biden winning the Democrat primary, and I don't see anyone asking the question as to whether or not they will continue to accept the results of their own primary.
It's not hierarchy.
libby emmons
It's not hypocrisy.
jack posobiec
It's hierarchy.
tim pool
Did you guys see the Snyder ruling from the Supreme Court?
Did you guys read that one?
libby emmons
Which one was that?
tim pool
That was the former mayor who received an illegal gratuity and was criminally charged?
So let me tell you, this is why I can't stand MSNBC.
So I get a message from a family member and they're like, did you see this?
The Supreme Court legalized bribery.
And I was like, okay, I'm immediately thinking, okay, well, it's probably not true.
Let's hear.
jack posobiec
We all know that Tim Poole's bribing the people of Martinsburg to get his skate parks and steal from the good skaters.
tim pool
That is not confirmed.
So anyway, I'm having this conversation where it's like, yeah, this guy basically gives a contract to a truck company and then a couple years later he needs money so he goes and they pay him off.
And then he gets charged for it, because it's basically a kickback, but the Supreme Court said it was a gratuity, he got a tip!
So it's allowed!
And so, you know, I end up pulling up the Supreme Court ruling, and of course, it says literally the opposite.
Well then, this weekend I was hanging out at Charlestown Races playing some poker, and I mean, no disrespect to these people, my family member, or this next guy.
jack posobiec
Here it comes, folks, he's gonna admit it.
tim pool
Which one?
jack posobiec
Tim's gonna admit everything, he's gonna spill the beans.
Keep going, Tim, please, continue.
tim pool
So there's a guy sitting next to me, And as he wins a poker hand, he says, I'm going to need this money the next time I get pulled over because the Supreme Court just legalized bribery.
And I'm like, did MSNBC put this narrative out by taking... Here's the real story.
Gratuities are illegal if the intention is set before an official act to influence the official act.
Bribery is illegal if something of value is given before an official act.
There are quite literally two different laws in the books, and most people don't know that gratuity is a law in the books.
If someone goes to a public official and says, I'm going to give you X in exchange for this ruling, a bribe.
If someone goes to them and says, you rule in my favor and I'll give you X, a gratuity.
They're both illegal.
The gist of the case, as I read it, was they charged a guy for gratuity using a bribery statute, and the Supreme Court was like, no, no, no, don't do that.
Don't do that.
If you do that, you're going to give someone the opportunity for defense in that this was a gratuity, not a bribe, and the bribery charge gets thrown out.
They were basically saying, make sure when you charge people for illegal gratuity, it is the right law and statute.
Otherwise, they'll raise a defense because the payment came afterwards and you charged with the wrong law.
That gets turned into the Supreme Court legalizes bribery because MSNBC and the likes of these liberal outlets are trying to trick you into thinking the court is bad or evil or wrong.
And that's what AOC is using as a predicate for, we have to impeach them, they're all corrupt.
jack posobiec
And this is what I always say when people get into arguments or like Twitter back and forth or Facebook arguments, Facebook debates with people is at some point you have to realize that you're just arguing with whatever the last thing they heard on TV was.
Or in Sotomayor's case, whatever the last thing she heard on a feminist podcast was.
That's who you're arguing with.
You're not arguing with someone who's actually taking the time, like Tim just did, to open up the case and read it out or even get basic bullet points to figure this out.
And here's the dirty little secret, is that you have people walking around every day and voting with this fried mental model who have been propagandized through chronic propaganda and occasionally acute propaganda their entire lives.
joshua lisec
One of the reasons why it sticks, and it's so... Because if you question them, it's like you're attacking them personally.
It's their personal identity.
If you... Like, really?
If you question just a little bit, offer a couple of facts.
hannah claire brimelow
It's deeply threatening to them.
jack posobiec
I like that, by the way, that test you just did.
Was it called the Scott Anderson?
Really?
So Tim, this is the test.
You just add that.
When someone says something crazy, the Supreme Court just legalized bribery.
All you have to do is start back and say, really?
Did they really do that?
libby emmons
Did you think when you spoke just now?
jack posobiec
It sounds a little far-fetched.
tim pool
I will address.
You know, people in the chat saying Tim has a gambling problem because I was playing poker.
jack posobiec
Uh-huh.
tim pool
Oh, bro, I am so up in poker.
It's ridiculous.
I'm going to be checking out the World Series.
jack posobiec
I don't have a gambling problem.
I always win.
joshua lisec
Gambling has a temple problem.
unidentified
That's true.
jack posobiec
That's right.
tim pool
But poker's not gambling.
And that's why I always win.
And I'll be checking out the World Series later.
hannah claire brimelow
I think one of the things is that criticism of the Supreme Court is about to get extremely acute and it's about to be everywhere because this is the new way to get progressives to the polls, right?
libby emmons
You guys hate Joe Biden.
Abortion isn't enough anymore.
hannah claire brimelow
Abortion's not enough.
Joe Biden is doing the wrong thing in Palestine and Israel, but you guys don't realize he could have the power to nominate new Supreme Court justice and we cannot let Trump have that, right?
It's sort of a testament to the grasping-of-straws nature of the Biden campaign at this point.
They know their candidate's not particularly viable.
They know that no one is really moved by the issues they have been trying to say.
These will change the election.
These are the big issues because, you know, they said it was abortion and actually it's the economy and immigration.
So they need it to be hysteria about the court and they're going to use this to capitalize on it.
That's why Biden speaking from the White House was like, look, this could disrupt everything.
I've got to go now.
I'm going to stop speaking.
It's the next phase of trying to keep the Democrats in power, and unfortunately the court is going to be the target of that.
joshua lisec
And all language is exaggerated.
I pulled out the transcript of a few of the words that Biden had said.
I noticed in the caption, we notice what I like to call bad verbs, right?
It's where you insert adverbs where they don't belong in order to amplify Yes.
false interpretation.
tim pool
Credibly accused.
joshua lisec
Yes.
So, with today's Supreme Court decision on presidential immunity, that fundamentally
changed referring to no one is above the law.
So fundamentally.
So in order to parse out manipulative messaging like this from the left, you just swap out
the adverb for the word not, and then you get the correct version of reality.
tim pool
What is it?
joshua lisec
Or that or not.
So he said fundamentally changed, virtually no limits, fundamentally new principle.
So he says there are virtually no limits.
There are not no limits.
That's correct.
unidentified
Right.
joshua lisec
If you simply take the adverb, and journalists do this all the time.
jack posobiec
Credibly accused.
Not credibly accused.
joshua lisec
Or just even not.
tim pool
Not accused.
jack posobiec
Not accused.
Yeah, not accused.
joshua lisec
At all.
Now one of the reasons why this sort of Let's say it's not exactly low intelligence, it's a low self-awareness type language.
It's king, it's assault, this sort of language.
I do a lot of hypnosis work with my clients and in the manuscripts.
I like to joke that a book is a long-form self-hypnosis script.
And one of the things that you learn in hypnosis is that the Subconscious mind, that we all have that operates, that's where our beliefs, our identity, our values all live, ages up to about five years old and stops.
If you have ever had a conversation with a five-year-old, I have, many, they are tactile little creatures, multi-sensory.
How do things look, taste, feel?
It's vivid language.
And so when we are scrolling, when we're consuming, we put ourselves into a trance-like state.
We effectively become like five-year-olds.
And so the most effective persuaders are speaking to five-year-olds.
Like, become like a king, a five-year-old can understand that.
It's an assault, a five-year-old can understand that.
It is an attack, even if none of that stuff is true.
Whereas, look at John Roberts' opinion, a five-year-old can't understand that whatsoever.
So what's happening— That's a mistake!
So what's happening is people will sometimes say, oh, the left is hypnotizing masses.
That is literally, that is happening.
That is what is happening.
The left is hypnotizing the masses, planting these words in there, these beliefs that they associate with their identity.
So when you say, no, Trump didn't say that about the Charlottesville white nationalist, It's an affront to them.
They recoil.
libby emmons
It's like, did you see the thing Kamala Harris put out this morning saying Trump's going to take office and he's going to illegalize abortion across the whole country?
And meanwhile, we all watched the debate on Thursday where he said absolutely that he was not going to do that.
jack posobiec
Elon blew her up over it.
libby emmons
Elon blew her up.
We covered that today.
And I was just like, you are just lying.
You are just lying.
This is just an actual complete lie.
tim pool
They keep pushing the very fine people hoax.
libby emmons
Yes, and it's been- Snopes debunked it!
joshua lisec
Snopes debunked it!
unidentified
After seven years!
Yes!
libby emmons
That was crazy!
And if you watch the tape, if you watch the briefing, and Trump actually gave briefings.
He actually went down to the press briefing room and spoke to reporters, and Biden can't even take questions at all ever, you know?
hannah claire brimelow
But his campaign has tripled down on Trump with the whole timeline.
And Trump was very clear.
libby emmons
Right, and Trump was very clear.
He always told you exactly what he was thinking.
He would joke around with the press.
I mean, he's still doing it.
joshua lisec
From page 19 of Unhumans, feelings don't care about facts.
The left understands that, the right does not.
tim pool
Well, when Ben Shapiro had that tweet, facts don't care about your feelings, it got like a million retweets, I and many others immediately tweeted, what you don't understand is that feelings don't care about your facts.
And that, I believe, it's equally as true.
The left operates on an inverse spectrum as to what the right is doing.
joshua lisec
Because feelings are what drive action, they move action.
Despite the fact that the left has effectively become a biological denial machine, a factory, they understand biology, at least the way that humans think and operate.
And so if you can apply consumer psychology to political messaging, you can select, regardless of the facts, if you can just make an accusation, Then if you can get your people to feel this way about a certain character, just repeat it over and over and over, and you associate that feeling with that person, then you think, you see Trump, and you immediately have innumerable bad feelings that are completely dissociated with facts.
tim pool
And what we end up seeing from the debate is they say, oh, Biden may have had a cold, but Trump's a liar.
And it's just like, look, dude, right?
libby emmons
It's not an equivocation.
tim pool
But we all expect them to say what the lie is, because if I'm talking to, you know, Libby or Joshua or Jack or Hannah Clare or Serge, and they say, Biden was lying the whole time, I'd say, oh, what did he lie about?
And he'd be like, he was talking about the very fine people hoax, that Trump never did that.
And I'd go, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, oh, wow, yeah, that was a lie.
And what the left does is they say, he was lying about everything.
And if you ask, they'll be like, why are you defending Trump?
Because they don't actually have an answer as to what Trump was lying about.
jack posobiec
And this gets back to what Josh was saying, though, is that you're not arguing with the specific principle of he said a lie and there we are going to now have a debate about the lie.
You are arguing with an identity.
I identify as a truth teller.
Trump is a liar.
How dare you defend a liar?
One who's also, by the way, a convicted felon, someone who's been held liable for rape and an insurrectionist and everything else.
tim pool
But you know, like, at this point, I said this about the Krasensteins, because I think it was Brian, and for those who don't know who they are, they're liberal personalities on X, he posted this- Those lovable scamps.
Yeah, he posted this thing where it's like, Biden, like, old, and, you know, like, has cold or whatever, and it's like, Trump, 94 convictions, blah blah.
And I'm just like, dude, no one actually believes that you think these things.
Like, we're at the point where if you are actively watching the news, there is no reality by which you are going, oh, yeah, well, Joe Biden was great.
Like, even Biden supporters are in panic mode saying he's got to go.
jack posobiec
So this is the big threat that the debate night posed.
And yes, the initial question was, Biden is clearly unfit for office.
Biden, perhaps, is unfit for office currently.
Jill Biden is currently in charge.
And Tim, you remember, I came on here years ago talking about how Jill was running the White House and how Kamala hated her.
And they kept giving Kamala these failed jobs.
And Jill was going to the G7.
I came on and said this.
I said this in real time.
The secondary issue, and this is the real issue that the media was freaking out.
They didn't care about Joe Biden.
Oh, he pulled the wool over our eyes.
No, they already knew.
The problem is the normies just found out for the first time that the media has been lying to them every single day, and suddenly it's like, wait.
We gotta get these people back because they just saw the truth.
Many of these people, because the debates get coverage in a way that both sides watch, in a way that they'll never, both sides will never watch any other show.
And so suddenly, millions of people just were presented with the truth for the first time.
And guess what, boys and girls?
The truth showed that the right-wing crazy people and the cheap fakes were actually telling the truth.
And that might get them to start asking, Uncomfortable questions about what else the media has been like.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, Democrats believe their own propaganda.
So now we have this problem where the propaganda is not to convert right-wingers, it's to keep everybody in line.
And when you're exposed to the reality that Joe Biden completely failed on the debate stage, you have to confront the reality that this truth that they have presented to you is falling apart around you.
libby emmons
Yeah, I mean, I talked to my dad the next morning and we were both saying that it was, you know, really sad to see the president look like that, you know, to say like, this is the person who is supposedly running the country.
And my dad said something interesting.
He's not super invested in politics.
And he said, I didn't know Biden was that far gone.
And I think that that's true.
Like Jack was saying, I think that that's true for a lot of people who maybe the last time they saw Biden was the State of the Union address, perhaps, and that's the last time they paid attention.
Nobody paid attention to his midday rally the next day, you know.
And so I think, yeah, I think that that's really a big problem.
And now there is a concern about If the Democrats are saying that Biden shouldn't run for re-election, then they should probably invoke the 25th now, because if he's not fit for office in November, he's not fit for office right now.
tim pool
Have you guys seen this video that Alex Jones put out?
It's got 15 million views.
I'm assuming many of you did.
I'm going to play it.
There's no real sound behind it, but this is after the debate, as it's concluding.
This is important.
Trump casually walking away from the podium.
Making his way towards the curtain to go backstage.
It's rather uneventful.
The camera then pans over back to Biden.
And I don't know if there's a frame jump or whatever that was, but here's Jill and Joe.
Jill's holding his hand as Biden can't bend his legs to take a single step down.
libby emmons
My goodness.
tim pool
In order to move down, he can't move his hips.
Look at his- you see his hands are- He looks like Mr. Burns!
No, no, no, yes.
But notice his hands are like this.
His hands are cornholio, and he's making these weird bent finger- dude is gone.
jack posobiec
So I was down in Austin with Alex on Friday, and I co-hosted the show with him down there, and uh trying to take it off air completely and um he played this video about 97 times during the show he's like doc play the video again guys guys play the video play the video and it was every single coming going to break and coming back from like the video the video and so i'm like i've been seeing it in my nightmares and what's crazy though that it reminds me of the hillary clinton falling out video from 9 11 in 2016
That's layer one.
Layer two, what's the end of that video?
Jake Tapper and Dana Bash are just shaking his hand as if nothing just happened.
They don't seem to react in any way.
They're not surprised.
They're not shocked because deep down, every single one of them know it.
They know that he's been like this.
And you can see the Financial Times reporting from the actual G7 of a lot of the world leaders saying that Joe Biden didn't seem like he was there, that he wasn't able to focus, he didn't even show up for like the gala dinner because the time change shifted on him or the times when he fell asleep when he was in these meetings with Netanyahu, etc, etc.
libby emmons
What is this bias?
jack posobiec
Or when he's in Maui to have a sleep.
And so they all know that Joe is like this.
And it didn't phase them at all.
And neither did his performance, his performance issues during the debate phase Jake Tapper
or Dana Bash even a little bit, because they all knew that's exactly what he's like.
tim pool
What is this bias?
The video clip actually ends with Joe Biden squatting on D-Day.
And my position on this is there's a decent probability that Joe Biden suffers from fecal
This is not meant to be crass.
This is an elderly man.
The rate is, I think, 25 to 30 percent of men over the age of 80 suffer from this.
That's why they sell diapers.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
So when this scenario happens, we all watch it.
And he's doing this weird squatting thing like he's having an issue.
And we say, you know, there's a possibility he just, you know, just kind of made a boom boom.
jack posobiec
I showed that to my kids and they kept they keep asking for it.
And they know exactly what it is.
tim pool
Here's the issue.
The media's been lying for so long.
Cheap fake, cheap fake.
Oh, these videos aren't real.
Oh, they're lying, manipulating you.
I hope now regular people having watched that debate can understand why we as reasonable people entertained the probability that Joe Biden made a boom boom on stage during D-Day, at the ceremony.
Not that we know he did, but that the probability exists and we are concerned about that.
libby emmons
Well, there was even during the 2020 election, there was a moment when he was, Lady Gaga was campaigning with Joe Biden and she was wearing like a million inch heels, you know, really tall.
And she was walking around with him and he was having trouble walking.
And she was like, oh, no, you got it.
You got it.
unidentified
It's OK.
libby emmons
You got it.
And he was stumbling along as she's gracefully gliding along in her skyscraper heels.
I mean, this is the same thing when he- And I remember seeing that, and I was like, that's kind of disturbing.
Like, she looks like she's leading her elderly grandpa along at the home.
jack posobiec
This is what we would expect.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
jack posobiec
This is exactly what we would expect in a situation where every institution in the country, except for one, by the way, there's one institution that does actually have a little bit of fairness left.
And we've all talked about it a number of times right now.
What is it, Libby?
libby emmons
Which was that?
jack posobiec
The one institution that is not completely controlled by the left right now.
libby emmons
Well, it's the Supreme Court.
jack posobiec
The Supreme Court, exactly.
libby emmons
That's the only one, yeah.
jack posobiec
And that is why they've targeted the Supreme Court so much.
And so you will hear them claim that they are oppressed.
You will hear them claim that they are the underdog, that they are the downtrodden masses of the world, when in fact they are the ones trying to import millions and millions of masses from around the world.
They are the ones who control all these organizations.
libby emmons
There's just another amnesty.
300,000 Haitians just got an extension of their temporary amnesty.
tim pool
Did anybody catch this?
When Biden gave his speech at 7.45, he accidentally read the teleprompter again.
I don't know if any of us caught that.
unidentified
So let's listen.
I concur with Justice Sotomayor's dissent today.
She hears what she said.
She said, in every use of official power, the president is now a king above the law.
With fear for our democracy, I dissent.
End of quote.
I remember he read like laws, remember that?
jack posobiec
Listen to the way, can you play that again though?
Because there's another part that I caught, the way he says the word official acts, listen.
unidentified
Here's what she said, she said, every use of a visual power.
jack posobiec
A visual, a visual power.
A visual power?
unidentified
With fear for our democracy, I dissent.
End of quote.
jack posobiec
So they're trying to, this is what they did with, um, Libby, you know, this is what they
always used to do with Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the, the notorious RBG. So she became famous
for her dissenting opinions, these blistering opinions, I dissent, I dissent. And then
eventually, you know, they take control of the court and they're able to get all these things
passed, but they're trying to turn Sotomayor into the new Ruth Bader G. And the problem is,
of course, is that as, as amoral and, uh, horrific, I think a lot of her decisions were
that Ruth Bader Ginsburg was like several standard deviations, uh, uh, more horsepower
between the years than Sotomayor. Um, Which, by the way, another piece of that is that Sotomayor is not
She's near the older end of the court, and there is a real chance that the next president, whoever that may be, could make their replacement.
Also, by the way, Clarence Thomas is currently the oldest member of the court.
libby emmons
He's also the best.
jack posobiec
I'm telling you, the Republic is currently predicated on Clarence Thomas' health care.
Whatever we need to give that guy, I want to make sure his RV needs... Yo, I'm talking armor plating, stacked missile launchers...
libby emmons
That's what I was talking about before.
hannah claire brimelow
The Supreme Court is going to be the new rallying point for at least the next couple weeks.
unidentified
know right but I mean I thought he had a wonder maybe fell asleep outside right
libby emmons
maybe it's that yeah well this is the thing like that's what I was talking
hannah claire brimelow
about before the Supreme Court is going to be the new rallying point for at
least the next couple weeks it might shift again but I think this will be the
new thing that they try to get progressive voters to the polls we know
you don't like Biden We know he did terribly.
We know you're upset with his foreign policy.
But the fate of the Supreme Court lies in the hands of the next U.S.
president.
It cannot be Donald Trump because of the fear of losing any kind of liberal presence on the court or any kind of, you know, progressive moves, especially with any pending abortion cases.
And I think that is one of the reasons that This desperation to keep Joe Biden a somewhat sympathetic character is going to remain present for a long time.
libby emmons
Isn't that what Harris said about him, this sympathetic old man?
Do you think we're going to get that audio?
hannah claire brimelow
The thing is, I don't think we'll get it, but I also think that all of the months of conservatives being like, do you remember when he tripped up the stairs?
That was rough.
Do you remember when he collapsed or tripped and fell down at Air Force Graduation?
It went from being like, conservatives are so mean and disrespectful to being like, oh wait, maybe they were right about something.
jack posobiec
These are Boris Yeltsin.
He is our Boris Yeltsin.
So Boris Yeltsin was sort of the post-Soviet, Clinton-appointed, basically, Clinton-packed president of Russia who wasn't really a president at all.
And he gets in there and people see his antics on television, public drunkenness.
And he allowed Western powers and the first oligarch class in Russia to just completely run roughshod, signing over, you know, peace.
It was almost as bad as the early days of the Bolshevik regime in some senses, because they would take something like the vast oil and gas resources of Siberia and sign it over to a guy for like a million dollars.
Like completely insane.
For the cost of a tin pool skate park.
And you've got all of Siberian oil and gas.
tim pool
I don't know if people know what the cost of a tin pool skate park is.
jack posobiec
I think it's about a million dollars, right?
tim pool
About a million dollars.
jack posobiec
Yeah, and so when this insanity and the Russian life expectancy started going down, public drunkenness was through the roof.
All of that sowed the conditions that led to the rise of Putin, who came in and said, no, we're not going to be doing this anymore.
And people know that he did not decide to turn down the root of, you know, freedom and democracy and institute a constitution.
No, it was going to be this direct top-down power model, probably more likened to the Romanovs and the dynasty before him, and the oligarchs were all given the choice.
They were given the choice of Are you going to agree with the new power structure, or will you be thrown in jail?
And if you didn't go along with it, you were thrown in jail.
So I guess I point this out to say that after a leader like this, a system can be ripe for massive political change.
And I think that's what the left is, in a sense, because they are so—and Joshua, you used this line earlier on my show when we were free-taping.
You said, we talk about follow the money, and you say the left follows the power.
They are so attuned to power, they sense a power shift is in the wind.
And Joshua, I wonder if you could talk about that a little bit, because they have this natural attunement to power, whereas the right would rather be addicted to rules.
Someone in the chat was just saying the right is totally addicted to rules, but doesn't seem to be able to understand which way the winds of power are blowing.
joshua lisec
Yes, if you game theory it, one side will win no matter what.
Our dedication is to win regardless, no matter what it takes.
And the other side says, I just want to be left alone.
That's the left, and that's the right, and that's everyone.
Well, who's going to be the winner-takes-all every single time?
And so it's an asymmetric interest, drive, urge for power over others.
And I would posit that We can consult hypnosis for one of the explanations for this.
When people project outwards their desires, what they want to see, what they want more of, it's usually due to a massive hole in the soul, so to speak, of what it is that they don't have.
So when someone has a drive for power, it is usually because they have no power over their own lives, their own social circle, their own family.
hannah claire brimelow
How did you get into hypnotism?
tim pool
I want to jump to this.
We had a big story.
Big breaking news that came up just earlier in the hour.
Trump is moving to overturn Manhattan's conviction.
jack posobiec
Let's go!
tim pool
Citing immunity decision, former President Donald J. Trump took the action hours after U.S.
Supreme Court ruling granted him immunity for official acts committed in office.
Now, right off the bat, I think the Democrats may have made a mistake by arguing that Trump was doing this to cover up something related to the election because they have turned it into a political maneuver instead of business fraud or whatever they may have claimed it was.
jack posobiec
And when was the last check cut?
tim pool
As he was president.
jack posobiec
As he was president.
tim pool
And they argued it was.
Over the election, which turns it into a political action, which Trump will likely argue was campaign related to his efforts to be president.
jack posobiec
An official act of an official candidate for the presidency, which, by the way, is what they claimed was at least one of the three potential predicate crimes of the underlying predicate crimes, which then turn it into a felony.
Now the question is, will the appeals court bring this up?
I don't know.
However, what it might do is throw a throw a throw sand into the gears of the sentencing because he is currently sentenced or scheduled to be sentenced on July 11th.
That means, by the way, Trump should appoint his VP right now.
unidentified
I agree with that.
jack posobiec
This is the important breakdown.
him or her before probably him before the convention fully because if he's
sentenced then he might not even be able to stand for the convention so he
sentenced the 11th convention is the 14th this is the important breakdown I
tim pool
do not believe and I think it's reasonable to say that the criminal
conviction in New York is largely not an official act as president however because
Trump was president when part of this happened The New York Times reports, his lawyers are likely to argue that prosecutors built their case partly on evidence from his time in the White House.
And under the Supreme Court's new ruling, prosecutors not only may not charge a president for any official acts, but also cannot cite evidence involving official acts to bolster other accusations.
jack posobiec
Wow.
Fruit of the poison tree.
tim pool
Absolutely.
He's going to argue this absolutely needs to be thrown out, at the very least retried, excluding evidence from any of his official acts as president, which they cited heavily in this case.
They were arguing he was influencing the election.
unidentified
He stole it.
jack posobiec
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
While he was president, the work he was doing with his lawyers now are going to completely fall under official acts, and that guts a large portion of their case.
I think Trump wins this.
I mean, I don't know that he does.
I'm saying, hearing that right now, I think it's fair to say, based on the Supreme Court's decision, that he would need a retrial at the very least.
jack posobiec
You might need to retry.
And there is no chance that that gets retried before the election.
libby emmons
No way.
jack posobiec
No way at this level.
By the way, by the way, you know what else?
I'm surprised.
It's just Manhattan, right?
Because there's also Fulton County.
Because the Fulton County one, Trump even has a better, I would say, argument in the Fulton County one, because he was the president investigating the execution of an election.
And so the Manhattan one clearly has grounds.
The Fulton County one more than certainly has grounds.
These cases need to be retried.
libby emmons
If he's going to, if that goes through and he, he, you know, is awarded a retrial, does that change anything about the sentencing?
Or does it mean he's sentenced and then they would- He may get an injunction.
jack posobiec
So he would need, he would need to, yeah, he would need to file an emergency injunction regarding the sentencing while the, while this broader appeal based on the Supreme Court ruling goes forward.
This is, by the way, Steve Bannon, for example.
So Bannon's people get confused because there's multi multiple appeal tracks.
So his emergency injunction was denied by the Supreme Court.
However, his overall appeal, which is based on executive privilege, the same, by the way,
I would tell you, executive privilege that Merrick Garland is currently using to refuse
subpoenas that Merrick Garland is currently using to hold up the Robert Hur tapes, although
there's some there's actually some interesting reporting out there that Merrick Garland is
not the one holding up the Hur tapes, that it's actually the White House.
libby emmons
Well, yeah.
That's because they invoked executive privilege.
jack posobiec
No, but what I'm saying is that Garland doesn't actually have a problem with handing it over.
It's the White House political side and Jill Biden that doesn't want it turned over, which is just so perfect.
libby emmons
Well, that's what he said.
He said it's executive privilege and he can't do it.
jack posobiec
Right, but I'm saying that Garland personally wouldn't have a problem with it.
And so the issue then being, of course, that it shows more of Joe Biden looking like Joe Biden.
So point being, though, is that Bannon claimed executive privilege and has a letter, produced a letter from President Trump invoking executive privilege.
Why?
Because the January 6th committee wanted to ask Steve Bannon about his conversations with Donald Trump on January 5th and I believe in the morning of January 6th.
So here's the question.
Donald Trump was the president of the United States on January 6th, which he brought up at the debate, by the way.
And so if he was the president, he can invoke executive privilege over his own conversations.
And so for him to do so, and then them go to Steve Bannon, who, yes, of course, he was not an employee of the executive branch at the time, but that doesn't matter because the privilege is not Bannon's, the privilege is the president's.
unidentified
Yep.
jack posobiec
And so this creates a constitutional issue based on separation of powers because the January 6th committee, illegitimate, was still a legislative function, not the executive function.
That's okay.
He's got a Supreme Court case.
So the problem is, if that's on emergency track, it's probably not going to come up.
tim pool
They should have said no prison for Bannon until this is answered.
jack posobiec
Obviously.
It was pathetic that they punted it and said... The problem that he ran into is that Navarro tried that while Navarro was currently in.
And so even though Bannon won his first appeal to stay out, when the decision had already been made for Navarro, it became harder for the judge to stand by that because there was already precedent then.
hannah claire brimelow
And Navarro gets out at the end of the month, right?
jack posobiec
Navarro gets out during the RNC.
And from what I'm told by sources close to Peter Navarro is that
he may already have a plane ticket to Milwaukee.
libby emmons
Oh nice.
tim pool
We're gonna be there.
We got a live show on the 18th.
Get your tickets at TimCast.com because I don't know how many are left.
jack posobiec
I was joking.
I want Navarro to come right onto the War Room set with his orange jumpsuit on and then like tear it off Hulk Hogan style.
I'll get him another one.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
We'll do it live!
And then they should let him walk on the main stage of the RNC and just do it there.
We have political prisoners in this country, and we can sit up here and give these flowery speeches, but Navarro is a political prisoner.
He just got out.
Steve Bannon, current political prisoner.
Jay Sixer's political prisoners.
This is what we're fighting for.
This isn't about some, like, oh, Donald Trump, and he's got, you know, the best hair and red ties.
No, no.
tim pool
It's not about that.
The question, I suppose, is how will this immunity issue affect Bannon and Navarro or any of these cases moving forward?
libby emmons
Yeah, because Trump said that he had executive privilege, which would be an, you know, an official act, wouldn't it?
tim pool
Well, the immunity is for the president, but I suppose—actually, I don't even think the immunity thing probably matters.
I think Jack summed it up pretty well.
This is a question for the Supreme Court as to the extent of presidential privilege.
jack posobiec
Well, and Tim, here's what it also does, too, is that it kicks it—so it created this test, and you walked through the test earlier about the three stages of this.
So core constitutional duties, official acts, unofficial acts.
Sotomayor, I don't think, understands the difference between the first two categories there.
I don't think so.
The question then becomes, not a question for the Supreme Court, this test must then be applied at the trial court and then at the appeals.
That's why they bounced it back.
It's not that they bounced it back, it's that they sent the test down to the trial court and said, by the way, for anyone who decides to prosecute any president, that this is the test you must apply in any of these cases.
And so that is going to send, that sends the whole thing, the military would say it sends the whole thing to the right now because now you've got to restart the entire process at the trial court.
Now Tanya Chutkan, I mean, she's super biased.
I can't imagine she would argue that the J6 speech was an official act, but she's going
to have a huge problem on her hands trying to explain whether or not she believes that
Trump communicating with his own Department of Justice officials is not a core constitutional
act and for which he has absolute immunity.
Because Jeffrey Clark was an acting attorney general level or I believe an acting assistant
attorney general level.
That is part of the executive branch.
That is a direct constitutional agency of the president.
There's no question that the president should have absolute immunity for those conversations.
Or, by the way, conversations about removing Bill Barr.
Because guess what?
When you're the president, you get to do it.
libby emmons
Yeah, you do.
jack posobiec
And you know who else does?
Nobody.
libby emmons
That's wild.
It's a wild situation.
tim pool
It's a mic drop for her.
jack posobiec
Well, it's like the plenary power of the pardon.
So plenary pardon power is interesting because it's completely absolute.
So no one has a check over presidential pardon.
That, by the way, includes the president himself.
So if the president signs a pardon and then is like, you know what?
Actually, I take it back.
Actually, I take it back.
He was going to give me money.
He didn't give me a check.
You were talking about the gratuity thing earlier.
So if the president signs a pardon, I give Tim Poole a pardon.
I say, but Tim, you have a million dollars for the next campaign, right?
Just give me one skate park for the next campaign.
And this is going to be a recurring bit, folks.
If you haven't figured that out already.
tim pool
I think a lot of people don't know what it's about.
jack posobiec
But I'm building to something.
You'll see.
But you never give it to me.
I say, why revoke your pardon?
President doesn't even have the power to revoke his own pardon.
And, by the way, there's nothing in the Constitution, as currently written, to overturn.
So the Supreme Court can't overturn a pardon.
Congress can't overturn a pardon.
It is a plenary absolute power.
That's why a lot of people have hypothesized that upon leaving the presidency the first
time around that President Trump could have potentially signed what's called a pocket pardon and that
means a pardon for himself on everything that he did while he was president and if he did so then
anything at the federal court would be completely thrown out because you had the ability.
tim pool
Sam signed it and filed it or what?
jack posobiec
Maybe he could have.
I mean, it's again, it's one of those things.
hannah claire brimelow
He could have, but nobody knows about it?
jack posobiec
But like a tight circle, like a tight circle.
tim pool
But whenever these things are filed, there's a list of them.
You can look up the list of executive actions.
hannah claire brimelow
It's public record, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So he would have had to have filed it.
Otherwise, if he did it now, they'd just argue.
Even if he did it then, but then hid it, they'd just be like, you've muted that now.
It doesn't count.
jack posobiec
And you can produce it.
But think about it, though, because it would create a constitutional question of whether, what process, but again, what process is over the constitutional power of the pardon?
There's no process.
There's no executive process.
This was the same issue with the classified documents, by the way.
It's the president's documents.
He is executive classification authority.
He's the OCA.
Nothing is above him.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story.
We got this tweet from Bill O'Reilly.
He said, here's a Biden update from BillO'Reilly.com headquarters.
The decision has been made that the president will quit the campaign.
Two reasons.
Democrat internal polling says he cannot recover from the debate and fundraising is drying up.
So it's over for Joe, but the White House doesn't yet know how or when to make the announcement.
Stay close.
I don't know how I feel about this.
I think I need more confirmation than just BillOReilly.com.
We do have this tweet from Tucker, which I trust a bit more.
No disrespect to Bill O'Reilly.
But he says, From an unusually good source, Obama's tweet supporting Joe Biden was disingenuous.
In private, Obama is telling people Biden can't win, and he is therefore in favor of an open convention.
Obama will not say whom he supports, nor as of yesterday afternoon had he met personally with Biden to deliver the message.
Relations between the Obamas and the Bidens have never been warm.
At times they've been hostile, but recently they've deteriorated further, mostly due to Jill Biden.
So etc.
etc.
Here's what I think.
He says they are circling particularly around Gretchen Whitmer.
I wonder if, this is all planned, it's all planned, the reason why we've had the issue with Ohio and Biden being on the ballot, the reason why the convention was after the due date was because they needed time to allow Biden to sink so they could justify an open convention, but that put them at odds with Ohio.
jack posobiec
Do you think this is why they scheduled the early debate and did away with the presidential commission on debate?
unidentified
Yes.
libby emmons
A lot of people were saying it was an audition.
jack posobiec
So I, yeah, that was something that I hadn't, I hadn't given, and I'll just say that I hadn't given that much, much credence to beforehand, but then as about halfway through the debate, I said, no, okay, this was right.
tim pool
I don't think it was an audition, because Nick Kristof had that pre-write article on the New York Times saying, after watching that debate performance, Biden should drop out.
libby emmons
And he wrote it before the debate.
tim pool
Well, what we do know is the title, Joe Biden Should Drop Out, was made on the 25th, two days before the debate.
So we don't know exactly what his argument was, because he could have altered the text after the fact.
Maybe the first article didn't mention the debate.
Maybe it was saying this debate's gonna go miserably, he should drop out now, and they held it until after the debate just in case.
Either way, he pre-wrote Joe Biden should drop out before the debate happened, published it after the debate, citing the debate.
Back in November, I was saying Biden will not be the nominee.
I was like, I am almost dead sure they're not going to have him be the nominee.
I still don't know for sure, but it's looking like that's the case.
We didn't know exactly how they'd get him out.
By March, everyone was saying it was too late.
Now it's looking like it's going to be an open convention and Biden's going to have to say, you know, my failing health or something.
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe there's conversations about if Biden wants to continue, but I'll tell you this, he will definitely be the keynote speaker at our convention.
The keynote speaker!
jack posobiec
The keynote speaker!
hannah claire brimelow
You don't know what his big issue is here, buddy.
jack posobiec
Here's what we reported.
I'll just go back to what we reported in real time.
2021-2022.
There was a huge conversation, a huge split in the Democrat Party that lines up almost identically to what Tucker is saying now, and Tucker and I haven't shared sources on this, but I've heard from the Democrat side, and anyone who's been in DC long enough knows that it's the world's biggest little town, and you always run into people, Libby, you know this, Yeah, for sure.
You run into people from the other side, you have friends or who have friends that are
on the other side, that kind of thing.
And so what we always heard was that they didn't want Joe Biden to run for all of these
issues.
But Joe Biden refused.
And that Jill Biden specifically, who's had the pants on the entire time here, the entire
time, saw the Vogue cover, the body's not even warm yet, Jill, body's not even warm
yet and she's out there.
And then Kamala Harris, we've got the competing virginal white covers, Rolling Stone and Vogue
at the same time.
You think that's all happening by accident?
No, this is the shade war that I was reporting in real time has now broken into full on open
civil war.
Day one, day one.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, from the beginning, I remember thinking, I remember, uh, uh, Jim Psaki being like, oh, we don't, we don't know what, what Biden's going to do.
He hasn't said anything.
Jim Psaki, the first White House press secretary was, was saying, we don't know what's going to happen.
You know, he had, there was, he had somewhat promised to be a one-term president, uh, but then you would get messaging from, from the Biden family, like, no, of course we're going And it was always the family, it was always the family holding the line.
jack posobiec
There was Jill Biden, and I remember when she was at UPenn and her buddies with Amy Gutmann, who was the president, and all the galas, and Joe Biden was walking around like her arm candy.
And she was, she is, Jersey Jill, right?
Jersey Jill is totally in love with the trappings of power.
She was the one, by the way, who we reported at the time, she demanded that Joe Biden stick to the withdrawal date in Afghanistan.
She's the one, by the way.
Go look.
And Jackie Heinrich from Fox had the story about Jill Biden talking about our decision about when to shoot down the Chinese spy balloon.
Our decision to wait until it had already wafted across the continental United States and left the Atlantic seaboard.
Then we would shoot it down.
Our decision.
What do you mean, our decision?
I remember voting for Jill Biden.
I don't remember voting for Joe Biden either, by the way.
hannah claire brimelow
Look, she thinks she's running the country and that her plan is there just for fun.
jack posobiec
She is running the country.
hannah claire brimelow
It's true, right?
libby emmons
It's like an Eleanor Roosevelt thing.
jack posobiec
Yeah, or Edith Wilson.
hannah claire brimelow
The thing is, she is front and center in the Vogue weddings cover with Naomi, who just got married, right?
Like, there is not just the desire for political power.
libby emmons
She was the one with Hunter Biden in Delaware.
hannah claire brimelow
It's not just the desire for political power, it's also the personal prestige that she is thriving off of.
I'm sure she did not like to be in Michelle Obama's shadow for eight years, right?
This is her time to be first lady.
jack posobiec
Exactly.
hannah claire brimelow
And if called upon to make all the executive decisions because Joe needs her, then she's willing to do that.
jack posobiec
And I'll even, I'll even throw, I'll even throw something else out there.
That, so last week I interviewed London Roberts.
So Hunter Biden's sister.
I know you guys had her on.
And I didn't know, but, and during the interview that Navy Joan was there.
So the granddaughter was actually, she wasn't in the studio, but she was, you know, at the, she was at our place in DC.
And, and London told me that Navy Joan, so she told her, she knows where her father is, and she knows where her grandfather is.
And so, and so on the way, on the way down, because so where, where my studios are at the Real America's Voice place down in DC, they're very close to the White House.
It's just in that vicinity.
And so they said, Oh, where are we going?
And they mentioned this in the car.
And, and London just says, Oh, it's down by the White House.
And the Navy Joan says, Oh, is that that's where grandpa lives?
Right?
Are we going to go see him?
And it's like, what do you say?
And so I would even argue a step further and say, it is not Joe Biden who demands that they don't recognize the granddaughter.
As gone as Joe Biden is, I just don't see him doing that.
But you know who would?
The wicked stepmother.
The wicked stepmother.
hannah claire brimelow
Who brings his youngest child to the carrying in of the Christmas tree, right?
The grandchildren she likes, she's willing to acknowledge, but Navy, no.
unidentified
Right.
jack posobiec
And remember, she's not Hunter Biden's mother.
She is not the grandmother of Navy Joan.
And I think this is all about spiting Hunter.
It's all about the spite that they have.
And I can't imagine, for all the terrible things that Joe Biden and Hunter Biden have done, for all the things they claim that Trump has done, can you think of anything worse than refusing to acknowledge your own flesh and blood?
libby emmons
No, I mean, Trump had a child out of wedlock, right?
Didn't he?
hannah claire brimelow
Trump?
unidentified
No.
libby emmons
He didn't?
unidentified
No.
hannah claire brimelow
There was an allegation that he had.
It was like a hypothetical doormat.
jack posobiec
There's been a lot of claims that that may have happened.
libby emmons
I know in my family, we've certainly had children out of wedlock in my family.
Like that's, you know, full disclosure in my extended family.
And there's never a question of not acknowledging them.
It's like, oh, look, we have discovered that you exist.
Come be in the family now.
You know, that's what you do.
And I think that's relatable to a lot of Americans.
jack posobiec
She's six now.
She's six years old.
She's not like two.
libby emmons
But like a ton of Americans have children who, and they don't have, you know, outside of marriage.
That's true for a lot of families.
And a lot of families say, oh, now we're going to bring you into the family.
And to see the president behave so recklessly and so disingenuously with real family, with blood family like that, is disgusting.
jack posobiec
When you say president, of course you mean Jill Biden.
libby emmons
Yeah, both of them.
jack posobiec
So Joshua, walk me through that.
What is it about the left that's so So enamored with power that they'd be willing to do something so horribly and actually evil as that.
joshua lisec
I've never heard anything like that before.
So the Jill Biden narrative that we're describing right now, it almost sounds like something from the Bible.
jack posobiec
Wow.
joshua lisec
It is that archetypal, that ancient, even, Something that is a fun exercise is to get lost on Wikipedia about lesser-known wars, lesser-known time periods, and you see things happen where this one person stole something from someone else, and then their family was massacred, and then it blew up into something, and it always comes down to two people.
Having a problem with each other.
Even something like the Bolshevik Revolution.
It goes to the fact that Vladimir Lenin's older brother was captured and executed by the white army.
jack posobiec
Yeah.
joshua lisec
And it's always down to two people every one of these conflicts.
Be they communist revolutions or be they in the modern day.
It's always one person.
It sounds like in this case it might be the hostility or the envy the jealousy that Jill had for Michelle.
jack posobiec
People say that the Iraq war was because George Bush's father, George Bush Jr.' 's father, had an assassination attempt for Saddam Hussein.
libby emmons
Well, he said that at the time.
Do you remember?
George Bush said, look what they tried to do to my daddy.
Like, he said it.
jack posobiec
Yeah, and you can't discount that.
libby emmons
I remember that distinctly.
jack posobiec
Putin had an older brother who died during the siege of Leningrad.
So when he talks about, oh, we're going to Ukraine to denazify it, I think there's a tendency in the West to kind of put that in sort of like the anti-fascist narrative that we have, and oh, everyone I don't like is a Nazi, and like, oh, he's just claiming moral superiority.
But no, I think that actually means something personal to him.
Like, they killed my brother.
And now I'm worried about them taking... And you could debate about whether or not it's true, certainly for the Azov battalion it is.
And they've got me on list after list after list.
So, you know, Nazis going after a Polish guy, you know how it is.
And we certainly do.
But I think to him, to your point, it actually means something personal.
joshua lisec
Yes, and it usually is.
If we look at each of these stories that we cover in the book On Humans, there's always individuals who either say, I will be the winner who takes all, no matter what, and they always push it so far.
And it's the one on the left who pushes it farther than anyone else who's willing to push it is always the one who has power.
Joseph Stalin, he obliterated all competition.
Mao Zedong obliterated all competition during the Cultural Revolution.
Anyone who was a threat.
And then it's the people who stand as their righteous foil who always, always are the ones with the father's heart who say, Dad's home.
Not while Dad's here.
That's the spirit of Francisco Franco.
That's the spirit of George Washington.
that is even to an extent. That's the Pinochet versus Allende.
jack posobiec
Well, and when they talk about like, oh, they want to get rid of Joe Biden, I'm like,
well, this is the same thing that leftists always do. It's they always have to get rid
of the previous generation of leftists and say, you're not revolutionary enough. You're against
us. So it's the Bolsheviks that take out the Mensheviks.
This is why you have the February Revolution and the October Revolution, because Lenin says,
no, this isn't going far enough.
This is why you have the reign of terror because Rose Pierre and the Jacobin Club says,
nope, it's not going far enough, fast enough.
Stalin, of course, takes out all of his opposition, rises to power.
Then for anyone who's even seen, you know, it's a comedy, but Death of Stalin is a pretty good.
So you have Beria versus Khrushchev and a few others.
libby emmons
We're seeing it right now with Pride, though.
jack posobiec
And we're seeing, even in Pride? What do you mean?
libby emmons
We're seeing it with Pride.
So I don't know if you guys were tracking Pride over the weekend.
We had a lot of people out.
jack posobiec
Oh, I just, I mean, I was like, I spent my weekend just watching the-
libby emmons
We had a lot of people out in like Toronto and San Francisco and Seattle and whatever else.
But, um, but- No, we, we had reporters.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jack posobiec
Libby had reporters.
libby emmons
Yeah.
Which was really cool.
I loved that.
But anyway, uh, what kept happening was you had- Not the content.
jack posobiec
You mean the coverage.
libby emmons
I really like these reporters.
jack posobiec
I'm trying to help you, Libby.
I'm trying to help you out here.
libby emmons
We had Katie Davis for Beth Bache.
They were out there doing great work and I loved, I loved watching them be in their element.
jack posobiec
Do we have like hazard pay or something for them when they go do that?
libby emmons
Why are you bringing that up?
unidentified
I would just say some of this footage is like...
tim pool
They need therapy.
Yeah, right?
jack posobiec
Like, do we have an employee wellness program?
tim pool
Okay, wait, wait, hold on.
Hold on.
Libby needs to explain what these events were.
libby emmons
So there were these Pride events in Toronto and Seattle, New York, San Francisco, all
over the place, Washington, wherever else.
But the, um, what was going on...
And you had people out in New York, which was fascinating, covering it a lot.
Yeah, a lot was out.
tim pool
And I'll shout out to Tenet Media, Taylor Hanson.
libby emmons
Taylor was great, too.
tim pool
One of the worst, worst videos.
libby emmons
It was so disgusting.
tim pool
I'm going to say, it was two men engaging in an adult activity involving the mouth and the lower portion, in public, in front of children.
With urine.
And the police said, you choose your battles.
libby emmons
Right.
And Katie Davis Court did this great, she did this great sort of Megan Rapinoe confrontation where she was like, Megan, why are you, why do you support, you know, men and women's sports?
What's the deal?
And Megan didn't have anything to say, but that went super viral.
That was cool.
But what was fascinating was that in Pride you had counter protesters of, you know, anti-Israel demonstrations.
So you had, and what they kept doing was they kept shutting down Pride.
to have this further leftist demonstration.
And they were saying like, no pride during genocide, and all of this kind of stuff.
And they were saying like, right, identity for Palestine, they were saying, you know, and they were also in Toronto, and this is something Beth Bache got, which was really fascinating.
You had the pride protest that the counter pride protesters complaining about the sponsors of the pride parade.
saying that the sponsors of the Pride Parade were a big problem.
And I thought that means... Go on. Right? And that means now that Pride
is the establishment. Pride is the man. Of course it is.
And it's being attacked by the further left. Look, NASA had a float in San Francisco
unidentified
Pride. Sure. The FBI is marching in Pride Parades.
libby emmons
But what's fascinating is the far left now realizes that Pride is the establishment
and they are seeking to take down the thing that facilitated their own ability to pee on each other
jack posobiec
and give blowjobs and Joshua, have you ever seen a snake eat its own tail?
tim pool
Family friendly, Libby.
libby emmons
I'm sorry.
I apologize.
I didn't use any curse words.
joshua lisec
As of this weekend, it has a new meaning.
tim pool
I'll explain, because we always ask people not to swear.
And we always ask people not to swear.
And so the story was, several years ago when we first started the show, I used a phrase that I thought was PG-13 and probably fine.
jack posobiec
What was it?
unidentified
Say it.
tim pool
I'm not going to, but I will describe it.
It is a group of men, all standing in a big circle, patting each other on the back.
It's a bunch of jerks standing in a circle all congratulating each other.
And when I said it, in the simplest terms, we got a bunch of emails from people who were laughing.
They were like, it's funny, I just want to let you know, but my children are asking me what that meant and I don't know what to tell them.
And I was like, we'll try to keep things more family friendly when we do the show because people watch us on their TV and their kids are in the room or in their car or whatever.
So now I just say, it's a circle of jerks all patting each other on the back.
libby emmons
That's like when I took my son on the subway when he was about seven years old, and it was a subway advertisement takeover for a dating app, and every sign on the subway said, D2F.
And my son goes, Mom, what's D2F?
jack posobiec
Can I respond to what Libby just said about the fact that the police were there?
So that you have police officers viewing these acts, and I believe in Taylor's video as well, he films the children, he films the act of the circle of jerks.
And he then films the police officers watching the children in proximity to the axe.
And I remember, so we were talking about On Humans, and I was tweeting about it.
People like, oh, why are you doing this book?
They said, why are you doing a book about a communist revolution?
Because we've got all these guns in America, and that'll never happen.
And then I said, oh, really?
Well, what if they what if the new communists said it was all in the name of tolerance and
diversity and half the people in the country just went along with it?
And the police said we're not allowed to act because that would be intolerant.
Because that's what's going on right now.
libby emmons
That's what happened in San Francisco.
jack posobiec
I have it on video.
libby emmons
That's what Taylor and Savannah saw.
tim pool
Yeah.
And I gotta tell you, there's a lot of conservatives that are like, will the conservatives stop sharing the stuff to own the libs?
We don't need to see it.
You do.
You do need to see it.
Sorry.
The reason parents don't know the stuff is in their schools, the reason people don't know this is happening in public on their streets, is because of that mentality of, don't let anybody know, because I don't want to see it.
Well, unfortunately, the world is not fair.
It's disgusting.
It's brutal.
There are people who go out there every single day, and they face real combat, and they see people getting their legs blown off.
And then people are like, I don't want to watch that stuff.
Well then, the people who are on the front lines see a hundred times worse than what you're going to see at home.
jack posobiec
That's why they hide the Ukraine footage.
tim pool
Absolutely.
And those videos they've posted where the Ukrainians are laughing and gloating when they drop a grenade on a Russian soldier.
Dude, that is disgusting.
Okay?
But war is bad.
Trump was right.
I want the dying to stop.
The issue I see is, when you refuse to acknowledge what they're doing on the streets, and the police refuse to actually enforce the law, I want you to ask yourself what you are setting up at home for the brave men and women in uniform to come home to.
Because you don't want to see it.
You don't want to think about it.
You don't want to be at the meetings dealing with it.
I don't want to see that stuff.
Don't post it in front of me.
Okay, when that dude comes back from overseas after Biden claimed no one died, What a disgusting statement.
libby emmons
And three people died in January in Jordan.
tim pool
And now some man, some woman, they come home with their best friend in a casket and they come back to the streets of their hometown and they see that depravity because you didn't want to deal with it.
Man, that's too brutal.
The least we can do at home is inform people, be active and say, we're going to make sure we keep the house clean for when the brave men and women come home from the real duty.
jack posobiec
But do you really think that so and this is what I always push back on people and saying, like, do you really think that this isn't a form of communism?
Do you really think that cultural Marxism doesn't exist?
And it's an all Marxism is just economic.
No, it's very clear that after the fall of the Soviet Union, they were like, alright, the whole economic class thing, like it's not working, the free market is just working too well.
Let's Turn this to ethnicity.
Let's turn this to gender.
Let's turn it to religion.
Let's turn it to race.
Then Occupy kicks off and they're like, all right, we really need to turn on the race stuff around here because we're getting totally slaughtered.
Everyone out there is talking about the banks, everyone politically slaughtered.
Everyone out there is talking about the banks.
Everyone is talking about their wealth inequality.
And this, by the way, is when you actually get people who rise up in real communist uprising is when wealth inequality gets too bad.
This is how you get Venezuela going from one of the richest countries in the hemisphere per capita to what it is now.
This is how you get that.
And time and time again, Throughout history!
I don't care if it's France, I don't care if it's Russia, I don't care if it's Spain, I don't care if it's China, anywhere around the world, any place, any time, this is what happens.
Because this is what they do, this is what they always do.
And just because they've changed it to the phraseology of tolerance or diversity or import millions of people, we're gonna do that and it's gonna be great because you're just cogs in a machine and all cultures are equal and everyone's equal.
No.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think Americans are well-versed enough in history to be able to identify patterns like that?
jack posobiec
I think someone should write a book that would potentially help their background.
joshua lisec
We're calling out the cultural Marxist lens of reality, which is the oppressor versus oppressed.
And I think the San Francisco scenario demonstrates that, where the police view themselves as the role of the oppressor.
jack posobiec
So true.
joshua lisec
White cops with guns.
Okay, obviously, I'm the oppressor to these people.
So I have to back TF away.
Because what I am viewing is not perverted acts in front of children.
What I'm viewing is expressions of love.
jack posobiec
Yes, an oppressed marginalized group.
joshua lisec
Yes, an oppressed marginalized group.
Love is love is what is what I'm witnessing.
libby emmons
They were spanking each other's naked bottom.
jack posobiec
Love is love.
joshua lisec
Yes, so the idea that communism is a thing of the past, no it's a thing of the present, but red has many shades and this thing is a chameleon.
In any way that this movement of anti-civilization, I have a physicist friend who calls it all, all of it, he calls it entropy.
Civilizational, social entropy.
And in the book we call these forces that which accelerates the end of everything.
And if we understand that that is the intended purpose of the oppressor versus oppressed worldview, that lens, then anything they can do to get power to destroy everything.
There's a verse in the Bible where Jesus says that the enemy comes only to steal and kill and destroy.
That is the force of of unhumanity in the world, and we were having a conversation with Charlie Kirk a few weeks ago That was a great—when does that release?
libby emmons
Because that was a terrific interview.
I watched that live.
jack posobiec
It should be coming out this week.
I think he has it on the member section, but I've been like, Charlie, put it out this week.
libby emmons
That was a terrific— You were in the room.
I was in the room, yeah, because I got cleared out of Secret Service and I missed my war room hit, and I was like, oh, I'm going to check this out.
But that more than made up for it, it was fascinating.
jack posobiec
What we talk about, and I'll read it, and shout out to the great Mr. E. Grove, who says the quote, and so much of this unlocks what we're talking about, is that, you know, they say, we'll define communism.
Right, and define communism.
joshua lisec
And they're expecting all macroeconomic theories.
jack posobiec
Yeah, theories, etc.
And there's like those MAGA communist guys who are running around now saying, you won't debate us!
You know what I'm talking about.
And it's very simple.
He goes, communism is when ugly, deformed freaks make it illegal to be normal, and then rob and or kill all successful people out of petty resentment and cruelty.
The ideology is all just window dressing.
So from this perspective, communists are not even communists, because it's not about equality and justice and equity.
It's about hating people who, for lack of a better term, can build things.
People who are able to go out and be successful and accomplished and actually do something in the real world.
Because the natural world, by the way, as Joshua was saying, tends toward entropy.
Tends toward disillusion, tends toward warfare, tends toward things decaying.
Civilization is not, you know, the Fourth of July is coming up, right?
You know, well, when the Declaration was written, they didn't know that the United States was about to happen.
It wasn't presumptive.
In fact, it was presumptive that they would be squashed and killed and destroyed as a military coup, and they would be a footnote to the British Empire.
And who knows what would have come After that, we would have been taught that George Washington was a petty rebel and a tyrant, and he launched a failed military coup against the British crown, and was slaughtered and strung up for having done so.
And Ben Franklin says his line about, hang together or hang separately, he meant that quite literally.
And by the way, most of the signers of the Declaration did face such ends.
We think of the revolution as this like, And, you know, it was just this, you know, salon and a bunch of political debates.
No, it was an actual war fought on ground not far from where we're sitting right now.
tim pool
The Declaration of Independence was signed one year and one month after the war already began.
And that's an important fact, too.
The Founding Fathers were in the midst of a war, and for a year were debating how to deal with it, petitioning the Crown and Parliament saying, like, stop shooting at us!
joshua lisec
July 2nd, 1775, the Olive Branch Petition from the Continental Congress.
Basically, sidestepping Parliament, saying, oh, it's the British Parliament.
It's them who's doing all of this.
They're the ones who are doing all the taxes, the Intolerable Acts, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Can you be a real G?
Can you be a real G, Mr. George?
And can you solve this problem for us?
And so if you read that petition, it's just like three pages.
It's useful because, again, most Americans don't know any history, much less our own history.
And if you ask anyone on the street, this would be a fun street exercise.
What was the Olive Branch Petition?
Just ask.
What was the Olive Branch Petition?
jack posobiec
Oh, come on.
tim pool
Well, that's a bit esoteric, but specific.
jack posobiec
Yeah, they're not going to get that.
tim pool
I hear a lot of people say stuff like, Founding Fathers would be stacking bodies, buying... No, they wouldn't.
They resisted war every step.
They did not want it.
jack posobiec
That's exactly right.
tim pool
Yeah, they were trying desperately, and then how did the war actually begin?
They seized the weapons, intolerable acts, they marched from Boston to Lexington and Concord, and then just some... Which was a military arsenal.
Right, and then militiamen, we don't know who opened fire first, but it was not an organized battle where the Founding Fathers were like, petition our battalion here at Lexington and stand your guard!
No, it was like farmers being like, you ain't taking my guns.
jack posobiec
Right, and so when the Declaration is signed, all of Boston is already under martial law, right, at that point.
So Boston is completely under martial law.
The British ships have come in the harbor.
They're impressing people.
This is, by the way, this is where the history of the Article 3 of the Bill of Rights comes in, quartering soldiers.
Because that was something the British were actually doing in Boston, which, by the way, they later do to New York City, they later do to Philadelphia, they later do across the North.
Because, by the way, the Americans, the Continental Army, didn't do so well in the early stages.
Washington loses a ton of wars.
They actually do better in the Southern Campaign prior to the North, really getting, you know, Washington crossing, etc.
after Valley Forge.
But the idea is that people seem to think that it was just some sort of, like, Oh, they wrote this thing.
And then the British were like, Oh, and then we just went for it.
No, no, it was this horrific, terrible act.
And it was horrible, if you were going through it.
And at one point, they're not just fighting the British, they're fighting other Americans who are loyal.
It's in many ways a civil war, because these were British on British on British.
tim pool
And you know there was a declaration of dependence, which I'm sure you're familiar with, right?
joshua lisec
Yes.
So it was when the British showed up in New York City, there was the offer to Go back against your word.
Say, okay, I say no to the Declaration of Independence.
And two of the signers of the Declaration of Independence said, okay, I'll sign an oath of loyalty to the king.
tim pool
Right.
Loyalists signed a declaration stating, we are loyal to the crown.
We are British subjects.
We're good.
It's crazy how people don't know that.
It's always funny to make a joke about it where they're doing this like, you know, historical gag reel where Dennis is like, we don't want to go to war, we'll lose.
So they make a declaration of dependence in Philadelphia.
And it's like, well, that was a thing.
And people also don't realize Quebec was a colony of the crown as well that rejected the independence.
So when people like the 13 original colonies, they were more than that.
libby emmons
Yeah, Aaron Burr fought up there.
tim pool
Yeah, but they just said, we don't want to be involved in your revolution.
So we're like, okay.
And then the Founding Fathers were concerned.
There's actually a fascinating thing about Thomas Jefferson.
He wanted to include a grievance in the Declaration about how the crown brought slaves to America and then was using them to levy war against colonists.
But they had to remove it because I believe it was South Carolina and Georgia would not have joined the fight for independence if they outright said, we don't like slavery.
jack posobiec
Well, so this later comes up, and we actually talk about the issue of slavery as pertains to Haiti in the book, which then becomes a driver for the Civil War.
And as we're here, and I think people know where we are, in the Civil War area, a lot of this territory, the borders here, the state of West Virginia was created by the Civil War that people don't, they say, oh, well, we're, you know, we're terrified of freeing the slaves because we're afraid of what might happen.
Joshua, what happened in Haiti when the slaves were freed?
joshua lisec
Yes, so an interesting chain of events happened.
jack posobiec
So... Like, not long after the Revolutionary War that we're talking about.
joshua lisec
Yes, so following in the immediate aftermath of the French Revolution, what happens in Haiti is revolutionary sentiment seems to be exported into the Francophone world.
jack posobiec
Like 1801.
joshua lisec
Yes.
And so there are biracial Haitian-slash-French people who were disenfranchised, did not have civil rights, while the French, the new French Empire said, okay, you can have, the Estates General, I believe, said, okay, you can have some civil rights now, as you can vote, you can be a real French colonist now.
And then they began to roll back the slavery system in Haiti, and people started to get freed.
This is still under French colonial rule.
But it wasn't happening fast enough, this slow walking of civil rights revolution in Haiti.
jack posobiec
You're starting to get a pattern now.
joshua lisec
Yes.
And so there are slaves, ex-slaves, free blacks in Haiti who are fomenting, they are organizing one another, usually around using voodoo rituals as a sort of coherence mechanism to organize around a supernatural source of envy and hate, and then they unleash themselves, and there's the famous Haitian slave revolt, and that results in the mass slaughtering of white men, women, and children in Haiti, and then one of the revolutionaries declares himself emperor, and what's one of the very first things that he does is he sends all the free blacks back into slavery.
unidentified
Wow!
joshua lisec
And it happens Twice.
tim pool
Before we go to Super Chats, I do want to jump into at least one last segment because Jack Posobiec has been bringing it up quite a bit, but this is a reference to the skate park.
I'm going to start by giving you the gist of the story.
jack posobiec
For the record, Tim brought it up first.
tim pool
What do you mean?
On the show?
jack posobiec
Prior to the show.
tim pool
Well yeah, so here's the gist of the story.
There is an event happening in Martinsburg, West Virginia, where we own property and are setting up several businesses.
Many people have even skated in front of my building on the street where my building resides.
So I offered $20,000 in prizes to this event, and they're basically a bunch of leftists.
They're very woke.
They insulted me rather intently and then physically threatened me.
uh... saying that if i shut up i'd be physically removed so i spent a million dollars and bought the land out from
under a minute my skate park now
that's that that's the gist of the story uh... it's gone viral there's two million views
the story substantially more nuanced than that but that's the general idea
unidentified
and uh... this actually happened a year ago i remember you mentioned on the show one time when i was a
tim pool
Yeah, it was a year ago, and it's been rather uneventful.
However, someone made a post on X which got two million views, several thousand retweets and quotes.
It's been picked up by a bunch of different YouTubers.
Then Jack started making references to it, and people began asking, what's Jack's problem with Tim Skatepark?
The general idea is, if this is what you'd like to believe, that woke people threatened physical violence against me on land they did not own, so I found the owner and I bought the land for a million bucks and now they're on my skate park.
libby emmons
Did you kick them out of your skate park?
tim pool
No.
libby emmons
See, so what's their problem?
tim pool
The real reason why I thought this would be interesting to bring up in the context of, you know, your book on humans.
libby emmons
No, I mean, what's their stupid problem?
tim pool
Right, this is the point.
The reason why I did think this would be interesting to actually talk about is the question of, here's the real story.
Uh, we bought property, uh, uh, Tim Kast, me personally, I bought property in Martinsburg, West Virginia.
I love the place.
There's really great restaurants in there.
Bricks 27, one of the best restaurants and the best filet mignon I've ever had, no joke, uh, in Martinsburg.
A lot of great people.
And, um, we were looking for land to build a small skate park.
We had been looking at a small lot where we could build a plaza.
We had been looking at large commercial properties.
Hey!
Where they happen to have a DIY skate park already.
When I got asked about this skate contest, which is on land not owned by anybody.
It was owned by somebody, but they didn't live there.
The person who owned it died, the kids inherited, they didn't know what it was and they didn't care.
jack posobiec
So undeveloped?
tim pool
It used to be a lumber yard, and the buildings are since stripped, but there's four and a half acres of concrete, essentially four and a half acres of concrete, which is, as you know, anybody who's laid concrete to that degree, we're talking millions of dollars worth of foundation.
jack posobiec
You might even have a claim that it was abandoned.
tim pool
Arguably.
We actually reached out to the owner, but it was the wrong information.
So we actually had our agent go to the house, the address was wrong, because it had been derelict.
And why did we want that land?
Well, the skaters that are there, only a small portion of it, but the city has an agreement with them that they're allowed to skate there.
Which basically clears the way for us to build a skate park.
Because the city already has precedent that skateboarding is allowed here.
So I offered up, rather randomly, because they don't own the property, and often they skate in the street, $20,000.
And the entire skateboard industry, like all these pros are hitting me up, and they're like, this is the coolest thing ever, $20,000 to a local skate jam is unheard of, and I'm like, no strings, we're just gonna do it.
They began to insult me, call me names, total political attack, rejecting the money, and I said, okay, we're gonna cancel it.
We had already been looking to buy property in the space as it was, and so one day, and this is like a week later, we were in Martinsburg on this derelict lot covered in dog crap, and I was like, we could buy it, concrete it out, make it a skate hangout plaza.
When some dude comes up threatening us, saying he's the sheriff of the park and we're not welcome there, another car pulls up, a guy runs up, starts screaming in our face.
Some lady lives nearby is freaking out, saying she's gonna call the cops.
I have no idea what's going on.
jack posobiec
Somebody put the word out that you were there.
tim pool
Yeah, but we're there all the time.
This land that we bought is two blocks from where Casper Coffee is, where our coffee shop is being built.
So our agent is there, we're trying to buy land, and now this guy's screaming in our faces, and filming us, and this other guy's screaming, and we're like, what is wrong with these people?
I don't know them.
I never said anything to them.
All I did was offer to give them 20 grand.
Afterwards, when they're freaking out, I offered $500,000 for a public park, and they told me to shove off.
They're now soliciting public funds in the city to build a park after having rejected me saying I was going to build a park anyway.
I think it's interesting because the left doesn't care.
They do not care when you look at these threads.
That I was offering $520,000, no strings attached, for a public space, for the community.
That's it.
All they care about is that it was me, and I'm on the wrong side of their politics.
The city has since, my understanding, allocated $30,000 towards engineering drawings for this group, having already rejected non-public funds for me.
So think about this.
libby emmons
That's so rude to the taxpayers.
It's not like it's a really rich area or anything.
tim pool
No, they want the taxpayers to pay the bill for their skate park that I offered to build.
jack posobiec
That's exactly what the book is about.
Total trash.
tim pool
Exactly.
jack posobiec
This should be the next chapter.
tim pool
Giving you the basics of this story.
I have this tweet here I can show you real quick.
They basically said they didn't want to be associated with my money.
They don't take my money, but it was kind of weird that I have major industry pros being like, I will take your money.
Are you crazy?
Pro skateboarders famously don't make six figures.
The majority of pro skateboarders are making $10,000-$20,000 a year off skateboarding, and they're destitute, and the industry is failing.
jack posobiec
Wait, wait, look at this.
It says, to avoid possible negative attention that would be associated with Tim Pool.
They're the ones creating the negative attention.
unidentified
Right.
libby emmons
Yeah.
joshua lisec
This is what they always do.
jack posobiec
This is what they always do.
joshua lisec
They always do this.
They create this language.
jack posobiec
Close the mic.
tim pool
Yeah, get closer.
There was one post, and this was brought up by The Quartering, where they basically said, Tim Pool wouldn't let LGBTQ people skate there or something like this.
jack posobiec
What?
tim pool
Never happened.
I talked to one of the guys on the phone and I said, look man, I'm gonna give half a million dollars to building a public park.
And they were like, well we don't want it, we don't want to be involved, we're doing our thing.
And I said, I will build a half a million dollar public park on this property, away from your DIY, and you guys keep the DIY and do your own thing, and I'll do my thing over here.
And they said, no.
libby emmons
But isn't it your land?
tim pool
It is, and I could do it if I want.
But the point is, for them to come out online, and for, like, I think the main issue here is this.
By all means, if you want to believe the narrative is, F with Tim Pool and he will buy your land out from under you, get woke, go broke, fine.
jack posobiec
Which is hilarious.
tim pool
I know, there's a bunch of people being like, Tim's base, wow, it's hilarious.
The woke people tried to kick him out so he bought the land and now they can't, he unbanned himself.
libby emmons
Yeah, I love it.
tim pool
Sure, I guess.
libby emmons
I love that story.
But also, they clearly don't pay attention to what it is that you're doing professionally otherwise, because you're a very open-minded person.
tim pool
But this is the important thing.
Yeah, I get that.
The thing at display here is, If you support me at TimCast.com, I will buy out more woke industry and I will just- I'm kidding.
We will, but like, there's no animosity.
I told the guys, I was like, guys, I don't know you.
I'm not mad at you.
I don't know what's going on.
I don't know why you're mad.
I'm trying to give you guys money so you can keep skating so we can have more skateboarding because we need more people to skate.
Let's build stuff.
And they were like, no F you.
The issue here that I think is interesting is, They don't want skateboarding.
They don't want skateboarding to succeed.
They want to own.
They want to have power.
They want to control the area.
And, you know, I don't know if I was gonna bring this up, but when you were talking about the left's motives and things like this, I was like, does this not exemplify the lies and manipulation?
And I think that's actually, I suppose, the great benefit to everything that's coming out from this story, and the story going viral again is, Tim Pool offers $520,000, no strings attached, to a local community for a public park, and they said, because you are not a communist, get the F out.
jack posobiec
This is like Trump with the ice skating rink up in New York in Central Park all those years ago.
Yeah, it's almost exactly like that.
Although New York except at the time, because Trump wasn't a very bad naughty person yet.
hannah claire brimelow
They were excited.
jack posobiec
Well, Joshua, you were gonna say before, we were kind of cut you off, but but explain this is what they always do.
joshua lisec
Yes, so you're, you're right.
And think about, at least when I was growing up, what what were skaters?
Masculine, troublemaking boys.
Many, many of them, many of them white.
And so what we have is future oppressors.
Future oppressors congregating in one place.
We can't have future oppressors congregating in one place doing fun things.
tim pool
When I was growing up, skateboarders were completely mixed.
And it was a point of like, it was actually brought up by a lot of pros.
They're like, how cool is it that we all skate together and people of all different races, but the only thing that matters is the tricks.
When you go out and you skate, you get that trick, nobody cares about your race, nobody cares about how much money you've got, it's just, we're here to have fun, have a good time.
There was actually a viral video where an Israeli and Palestinian skateboarder met in America and were skating together and laughing and like, skating, and they didn't realize, they had just met, and they were like, look at this man, skating brings people together.
Now, what I find funny about this is that these people have become completely exclusionary gatekeepers.
You must adhere to their ideology or else you are not welcome.
And so this actually stems from a bigger issue too.
We did this big jam at Freedom Plaza in DC.
I was skating there with my girlfriend, minding my own business, and they started posting pictures of me and insulting me, being like, don't come, Tim Poole's here, blah blah, whatever.
They started going on forums lying, saying I wasn't actually able to skate, I was posing, and weird lies.
This is another big thing they do.
Well, I mean, I started increasing the videos I post because I'm actually really good at skateboarding, and they were lying, claiming I didn't know how to skate.
jack posobiec
But there's, like, old videos of you skateboarding.
tim pool
Oh, for sure.
I've been skating since I was 13.
But the issue is, they have no skills, they have nothing to offer but communism and their weird woke cult, and they cannot lose out that influence.
jack posobiec
Do I need to read the quote again?
tim pool
Read the quote.
jack posobiec
I'll read the quote again.
Here you go.
I should have this memorized by now.
Communism is when ugly, deformed freaks make it illegal to be normal and then rob and or kill all successful people out of petty resentment and cruelty.
The ideology is all just window dressing.
tim pool
So I want to show this image, too, real quick.
This is from their Instagram.
This is my building.
Like, I own this building.
We are building a coffee shop and a club here, and it's going to be a small skate shop.
jack posobiec
Do you think you just own land, man?
Just, like, own land?
It's an Indian's land.
tim pool
Oh, I'm an Indian.
unidentified
Oh my God.
tim pool
Someone posted the funny meme from Futurama where he's like, get off my property, and the hippie goes to Farnsworth.
It's Presser Farnsworth from Futurama.
And he's like, you can't, like, ode property, man.
And he goes, I can, because I'm not a penniless hippie!
jack posobiec
Let's go.
Let's go.
tim pool
Here's the thing.
These people set up in the streets in front of my building to skate.
I got no beef.
I say nothing.
I want to put money in the community.
They attack me online.
They attack me relentlessly.
And they make it a point of rallying to reject this.
Well, I tell you what.
The local community, in reality, loves this.
They're grateful that we're putting money into skateboarding.
And I challenge, I question, and I have to deal with now the city of Martinsburg because we want to build the skate park.
There's going to be a problem that they've made for themselves.
They are trying to raise $400,000 for a public park.
I already offered half a million.
I can't imagine how the city is going to rectify this.
We are going to pay this.
So the city's not paying the $400,000.
They're trying to raise that.
But the city, I believe, did pay $30k.
Why is the city paying for something I offered to pay?
Because they reject it.
Because they're trying to maintain political control in the area, and I never asked for anything to do it.
So what I see here is, and it's fairly obvious to everybody, first thing, Money Talks, BS Walks.
The people who skate in the area are thankful that we're building, expanding, launching companies, and we pay our skate team salaries.
Unheard of in the skate industry.
And these people are losing out because get what go broke.
And this is a good example of why you don't want to be on the side of people who want to be drug addicted losers who live in the streets.
If you want to live a good life, if you want to be a pro skateboarder, if you want to be successful, if you want to make money doing what you love, it is not with them because they're burning it down intentionally.
joshua lisec
They're not having any fun either.
tim pool
It's weird.
They're not having any fun.
I never I have not said anything to them in a year.
They rejected the money.
I said, Okay, and that was it.
And then a year later, they make these posts and begin the attacks again.
I've said nothing to them.
I've not gone.
And we've done nothing.
We've not put up a fence at the DIY.
We've not put up a statue of me or flags or anything.
unidentified
And I got people, you know, because you are gonna put up a statue and you just let them play and hang out on your land.
tim pool
Well, my new rule, I said, I have a rule for my skate park in Martinsburg.
No pedophiles.
Only rule.
jack posobiec
Sooner left is valid.
tim pool
Well, I didn't say that.
jack posobiec
Oh, okay.
tim pool
But they're getting real mad.
libby emmons
Anyway.
It's always funny how when you say no pedos, people say that's anti-LGBTQIA.
tim pool
I do have a rule, though.
I have a rule.
You can't ban people from land you don't own.
You couldn't do it before I owned it, and you especially can't do it now that I own it.
So if people want to go and skate on a piece of property, they assume the responsibility and liability for themselves and whatever it is you had prearranged, and you cannot kick people out of land you don't own.
These are the people claiming—one person accused me of being Israel.
They were like, he's pooling in Israel.
I'm like, I kind of think you are.
It's not your land, it never was, and you kicked people off of it for no reason.
So, that's your argument.
But anyway, that was fun.
We'll go to Super Chats now, if you haven't already.
jack posobiec
If we have one quick second, because... Oh, let's get it.
I've got something here that was a gift for Tim Pool.
libby emmons
Oh yeah, you're perfect.
jack posobiec
And we were just talking, by the way, about... Is it a cake?
Stuff for children.
Ah.
And Tim Pool recently did a huge favor to help out children's media in the United States, non-woke children's media, and specifically Brave Books.
Oh, I know what this is.
And specifically, The Adventures with Mr. Kirk.
I'm told, by the way, 11 episodes have already been filmed in the can, nine more to go.
And of course, they have the Iggy.
So Iggy and Mr. Kirk.
Iggy is the puppet.
And since they created a whole puppet workshop, I talked to the guys over at Brave Books and I said, was there something we could do for Tim?
And they said, like, oh, well, you know, he likes skateboards and firearms.
And I said, no, no, no, guys, we had to get him something a little bit more special than that.
So here's what we did.
Got the box.
libby emmons
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
Is there a puppet in it?
jack posobiec
Tim?
libby emmons
Is it a Tim puppet?
jack posobiec
Hold on.
Put this over here for a second.
I have the make for you.
libby emmons
Oh my goodness.
jack posobiec
Here we go.
tim pool
Oh my goodness!
libby emmons
Look at that!
unidentified
That's amazing!
jack posobiec
The Tim Pool.
With the headphones.
I'll put that there for a second.
The Tim Poole puppet.
Can they see that, Serge?
This is the Tim Poole puppet.
tim pool
He looks like Armenian.
jack posobiec
Yeah, he is actually.
Yeah, his land was taken too.
And here we go.
So now whenever Tim is out for a day, you just bring the Tim Poole puppet in.
tim pool
I do say that.
jack posobiec
And when he wants to go to the skate park... Oh my goodness.
We've got his own skateboard and of course it says... There's no no's on that board.
Of course it says bravebooks.com.
So here, I don't know... Hold on, let me see that skateboard.
I think... Here, can I put it over?
Will that work?
I don't want to tear things apart.
unidentified
No, I can't get it.
tim pool
Here, pass that to him.
Yo, we got some skateboarders here who will absolutely thrash with this board.
jack posobiec
Here, Tim, I'm gonna hand you this puppet yourself.
I'm gonna hand you this puppet yourself.
unidentified
Oh my goodness.
jack posobiec
Grabbed him by the neck!
Tim, it has a chair.
Tim is strangling himself.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh my goodness.
jack posobiec
Grabbed him by the neck.
libby emmons
The chair is even there.
hannah claire brimelow
Tim, it has a chair.
Tim is strangling himself.
unidentified
I can't breathe!
tim pool
Alright, we're gonna use that for videos.
jack posobiec
Bravebooks.com, The TimCast, The TimCast Puppet, and Skateboard.
Yeah, yeah, I said, guys, you gotta get Tim a puppet, and yes, it needs a skateboard.
tim pool
I think the crew that we have here will be able to film on that board and do some legit tricks on it.
jack posobiec
Are you serious?
tim pool
No joke.
jack posobiec
That's not just like a kid's, like you could actually ride that?
tim pool
I mean, that board is very odd and very weird, but you could do anything on anything.
hannah claire brimelow
I have a board covered in carpets, though.
tim pool
So one of the skaters in our crew, Special Mike, Mike Noggle, we call him Special Mike because he's so ridiculously good at skateboarding.
Legit, we call him Special.
He took an omnidirectional dolly and he actually did a blunt to fakie on the quarter pipe.
That is, he rode an omnidirectional dolly up the quarter pipe and stalled on the back wheels and then jumped back in.
Omnidirectional.
He's spinning in circles as he's doing it.
It's amazing.
They're gonna tear that place up with that little board.
That'll be funny.
jack posobiec
As long as people know, bravebooks.com, watchbrave.com.
Iggy and Mr. Kirk, coming soon.
Completely non-woke, normal, regular, traditional.
Anti-communist battles.
tim pool
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James Eaton says, Civil War.
That's not a quote from me though, so you're not allowed to drink.
It's only when I say it.
I was reading someone else's quote.
Alpha Turkey says, Immune to using SEAL Team 6 to take out political rival?
Dems projecting what they will do in the future if they control it all.
I wouldn't be surprised.
jack posobiec
They're openly calling for President Trump's assassination.
They're calling for drone strikes on Mar-a-Lago.
Look, they've gone full mask off.
So if you want to go mask off, let's go mask off.
Because I'm more than happy you guys know where to find me.
tim pool
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Tim, why must you be a 1980s-style evil villain?
I remember that movie.
Remember that movie where it was like all the teenagers were at the ski club on a mountain they didn't own that they were trespassing on?
And then some guy bought the mountain and said, I love what you guys are doing!
Keep it up!
jack posobiec
There's a lot of trouble up there on that mountain there.
A lot of kids don't go up there.
tim pool
The 80s is clearly the best decade ever.
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe you're just bringing the 80s back.
tim pool
America has never recovered From the time at which Men at Work were the top charting band in this country.
It has never gotten better than that.
That was the end of it.
That's it.
jack posobiec
Sometimes that is better.
tim pool
Nope.
Like, it was, what was it, like 1984?
libby emmons
Is that I Just Want My MTV?
tim pool
No!
jack posobiec
So MTV, I Would Just Want My MTV would be the end of that era.
libby emmons
That's the end of that era.
tim pool
I'm talking about Down Under.
You know, Land Down Under.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
And Who Could It Be Now?
And, of course, Overkill.
I mean, that song's a classic.
After that it was just, you know, go watch the video for Overkill and that suit and those lights and like that was America back in the early 80s and now what do we got going on, huh?
jack posobiec
Huh?
What's funny is I'll sometimes tell my kids that we're going to listen to 80s music.
And so I'll just put it on for a while and like, you know, we'll have, cause we won't have, we'll try not to have TV or video on, especially on Sundays.
And so we'll say, oh, it's going to be 80s music.
And you know, we might be going to do something else later.
We come back home and say, daddy, can we listen to 80s music?
And I think it's funny because they have no conception of what the 80s are.
I mean, my, I mean, my son, my older son understands like, like, you know, he knows I was born in the 80s, but that to him that he doesn't understand culture, but he knows that 80s means something.
libby emmons
I had fluorescent socks.
And we wore many different fluorescent socks at once so that you had like stripes of fluorescent socks.
hannah claire brimelow
We used to be a country.
jack posobiec
We used to be a real country.
So my wife was born in the Soviet Union so for her the 80s means something different.
tim pool
She's like, no, no.
Ian, where are you?
Ian is back tomorrow!
He'll be here tomorrow.
jack posobiec
I'm sad I missed Ian.
tim pool
We're off Thursday and Friday.
hannah claire brimelow
Not good enough for you, Jack.
tim pool
It's MAGA month.
jack posobiec
I just miss Ian.
I haven't seen him.
tim pool
It's MAGA month, as you all know.
Today's the first day of MAGA month.
jack posobiec
Let's go.
tim pool
And it's going to be based.
We've got the 4th.
I mean, talk about the best timing for the 4th of July.
If the 4th of July was on a Wednesday, you're kind of in trouble because you can't just take Wednesday, Thursday and Friday off.
No, it's tough.
4th of July and a Thursday?
4-day weekend.
jack posobiec
4-day weekend.
96, baby.
Let's go.
Full 96!
There you go.
tim pool
And so, we'll be off, and I'll be visiting family.
But this means you basically get the 4th of July fireworks.
But then, of course, they're gonna have celebrations on the 5th, because now it's Friday.
And then they're gonna do it on Saturday, too, because you gotta do it on Saturday.
libby emmons
You got the whole weekend.
jack posobiec
You get three days.
I actually, I'm not going to say where, but I actually like going places on the 5th of
July because if you find places that are open, they're usually completely dead.
Yeah.
And it's great.
tim pool
It's really slow.
Let's go.
Paul Tascalo says, notice who hasn't commented on the Supreme Court's presidential immunity
Barack Obama, George W. Bush, and Bill Clinton.
Not a peep from any of the living former presidents.
I wonder why that is.
jack posobiec
Gee, I wonder why.
tim pool
Because they'd be in jail.
jack posobiec
The old drone strike Obama.
tim pool
Obama's like, too many kids.
Gotta blow them up.
Too many of them.
unidentified
A lot of those brown kids over there.
tim pool
As president, I will blow up kids.
That's what he did.
All right.
California Prepper says, Hi, Tim.
I love your videos and streams.
I just started my own business and would love a shout out.
I build custom meals ready to eat that actually taste good for half the price.
My website is customMREs.net.
Thanks, Tim.
Ooh, that sounds interesting.
jack posobiec
That's a cool business.
tim pool
Oh, MREs.
unidentified
PTSD.
jack posobiec
These ones taste good, Jack.
unidentified
These taste good.
jack posobiec
Actually, real MREs do taste good, but they're not good for you.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
Everyone not in the service loves the novelty of an MRE.
joshua lisec
That's true.
tim pool
Yeah, you see?
Because when we buy some, everyone's all excited, like, oh, I really want to try it.
It's disgusting, but it's fun.
joshua lisec
It's like astronaut food.
People would pay five times the price for like a little, oh, it's astronaut ice cream.
jack posobiec
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, that's good though, dehydrated ice cream.
You know, it's like hard.
And you bite it?
jack posobiec
We used to get it when I went to Franklin Institute in Philadelphia.
I used to always get it.
I would still get it.
tim pool
It's delicious.
There's a Black Dog Coffee.
They've got a bunch of freeze-dried ice cream and you put it in the coffee and it's amazing.
Good stuff.
hannah claire brimelow
They're very cool.
libby emmons
Freeze-dried ice cream in the coffee?
tim pool
Yeah.
libby emmons
Is it like a creamer?
tim pool
No, it's like freeze-dried ice cream is almost like a hard marshmallow, I guess.
libby emmons
Yeah, I've had it, but what happens to it in the coffee?
Is it just like a sweetener?
tim pool
You dip it like a cookie.
jack posobiec
I put raw eggs in my coffee now.
And peanut butter?
No, I've gotten rid of the peanut butter.
I do that now.
joshua lisec
I saw you do that.
tim pool
Peanut powder, is that what you did?
Peanut butter or peanut powder?
jack posobiec
I was doing straight peanut butter, then I was doing peanut powder, but now it's all raw eggs.
It's delicious.
libby emmons
How do you get it to not curdle?
jack posobiec
What?
libby emmons
How do you get the egg to not curdle in your coffee?
jack posobiec
I whisk it.
unidentified
I whisk it.
libby emmons
You, like, take that time to just really go for it?
jack posobiec
It's not really that hard.
You just use a fork.
libby emmons
Well, it's actually not easy to get the eggs to not curdle when you're doing, like, carbonara or, like, putting it in ramen or something.
tim pool
All right, let's go.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Biden used a teleprompter for a five-minute speech, WTF?
jack posobiec
Wasn't there one where he used one?
hannah claire brimelow
We're not taking any chances with this guy.
jack posobiec
He used one for a fundraiser the other day as well.
tim pool
Yes, yes.
jack posobiec
He used one for a fundraiser.
They're like, he used a...
Teleprompter at a fundraiser?
This is like Barack Obama using the teleprompter at the kindergarten for those who remember this.
He actually did that once.
unidentified
What?
jack posobiec
And he used a teleprompter.
unidentified
The two... Trump should not have used a prompter at the Libertarian Convention.
tim pool
He should have just roasted them.
jack posobiec
He's so good when he's off prompter.
tim pool
I know.
jack posobiec
He's so good.
tim pool
He would have won many more of them over if he just did a Trump speech to the Libertarians.
But when he went off script and was like, keep getting 3% and being losers or vote for me, that was actually good.
jack posobiec
Joshua, you got to see your first live Trump speech recently.
joshua lisec
Yes, it was in Missoula.
It was like an hour long, or an hour and a half long.
Who was it?
Detroit, at the Turning Point event.
And about halfway through it, I realized...
He doesn't have a teleprompter.
All of this is just pure sauce.
There were three techniques that he used that I hadn't seen before.
The first thing I noticed is he didn't use any filler words, any uhs or ums or paws or anything like that.
Instead, what he would do is he would make a comment about the topic that was currently in discussion, almost like waiting for the thought to surface.
You know, so he would talk about the shower heads, the communist shower heads, and the water, and he would talk about the weak water pressure, and he would say something like, the water pressure, the circulating water pressure, people at that point might say, you know, like that might be the verbatim.
Instead, he would say something like, I have this beautiful head of hair, best head of hair, gorgeous head of hair, it's the best.
unidentified
And then... Those are his filler words.
joshua lisec
So his filler words are hilarious commentary, easy to understand.
I also noticed something else that he did was he would give characteristics to describe people.
Always such a thing.
That was the character.
unidentified
Sleepy Joe!
joshua lisec
He would show, not tell.
Which is a advanced, like, fiction writer tell.
So he talked about this fellow from Mexico who had this beautiful blue suit.
It was beautiful, so sophisticated.
Describing this character and who he was as a person via the symbolism of his perfectly tailored blue suit, he had it all together.
And it was the perfectly tailored blue suit, instead of saying, I thought about asking you in the room. Yeah, because he
jack posobiec
uses this imagery and it was the negotiator on what NAFTA turned into. Yeah. And talking
about how I'm going to get them to pay for the wall and he goes back and forth. But the way he
described this guy's suit, it just made you visualize sitting across the resolute desk, looking at this
Mexican negotiator in a beautiful tailor.
joshua lisec
And it made him into a three-dimensional character.
jack posobiec
Oh yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Trump is actually telling you a story.
He's not delivering perfectly calculated political speech points, and I find that really interesting.
I've seen him speak a couple different times, but I actually loved him at the Libertarian Convention because I've never seen someone from a different political party go to another political party and ask for their nomination, which is hilarious.
Sorry, Libertarians.
And then also proceed to tout their accomplishments in the third person, which gives you that larger-than-life feel, like I'm occupying you and also I am describing myself as a character.
unidentified
Let's read some more.
jack posobiec
Enjoy your 3%.
Yeah.
tim pool
We got Quantum Strange Quark says, Biden doesn't need a cognitive test anymore.
The debate was the test that the entire world witnessed in real life.
Indeed it was.
I like that meme.
It said, Biden doesn't need a cognitive test.
His voters do.
jack posobiec
Well, the real question is, should Trump agree to another debate?
I don't think he should.
tim pool
I agree.
libby emmons
Shouldn't he already agree to it?
unidentified
No, no, no.
jack posobiec
But why do it?
libby emmons
What's the point?
tim pool
At this point, I agree because nothing can be gained after that failure of a debate.
Let that ring in people's minds forever.
jack posobiec
It's now on them, put the onus on them to try to find some reason to resurrect the reasons for voting for, which of course they're desperate to try to do.
They're using the Supreme Court, they're using abortion, they're using Trump, they're using these specters of Trump's return to authoritarianism, et cetera, et cetera, SEAL Team 6.
That's why you see them going so feral right now.
tim pool
Did you see those?
libby emmons
Oh yeah, the Trump coins?
jack posobiec
No, I didn't see the coins.
Are those Biden coins?
tim pool
Well, there's a Biden one and a Trump one.
One's got Biden in prison and Trump being sworn in.
One's got Biden being sworn in and Trump in prison.
jack posobiec
Is this silver?
tim pool
It's silver-coated.
jack posobiec
Silver-coated, okay.
Oh, so it's nothing.
Right.
tim pool
They're just funny little gag gifts that went viral online.
It's like, which president do you want?
And the funny thing is, the Biden in prison one is the one that sold the most.
People wanted Trump winning and Biden in prison, and they did this thing where it's like a meter showing how much people are buying.
jack posobiec
That's what they do at the Iowa State Fair.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
jack posobiec
Look, I do this all the time.
So we were in D.C.
over the weekend, took the kids down.
So I mentioned before we went over, I took the family to go see Steve on his last weekend of freedom for a little while.
By the way, Steve is just doing four months of show prep for his next episode.
He's just doing extended show prep.
And so we hung out in D.C.
for a while and took them around to some of the tourist stuff.
It's all Trump hats.
Oh yeah.
Even in D.C.
Really?
Because people think D.C.
is liberal.
Right.
But the tourists are not.
And this happened all through the Trump administration.
The tourists to D.C.
predominantly people from middle America who want to see their capital because
they love America and they love the institutions. Conservatives are naturally
institutionalist and this is one of the issues that Joshua and I have had in
getting these books out is to explain to people, no, the institutions are the
problem currently. We've had some success now, but I'm telling you these
these kids they show up from Covington. This is what Covington Catholic
was by the way, with Nate Salmon, that it was Nick Salmon that
Jeff Bader says, pulling weeds with my 8 and 4 year old.
Tim, I really do appreciate keeping the language clean.
Seriously, you do a great job.
MAGA hats.
hannah claire brimelow
If you believe in the country, you go to DC.
tim pool
Let's read some more super chats.
We got Jeff Bader says, pulling weeds with my 8 and 4 year old.
Tim, I really do appreciate keeping the language clean.
Seriously, you do a great job.
And you know, that's why I tell people, you know, this is not, you know what the thing
is, I don't understand, is that there are people who come here and think this is like
the NC-17 and they say graphic things and they swear a lot and I'm like, yo, this is
like a prime time news.
jack posobiec
That's Joshua Affair, by the way.
Totally, 100%, like all the time, man.
Every other word.
tim pool
You know what the thing that really, really gets me, though, is that there are people who On Tucker Carlson would never call for violence.
On their own shows would never call for violence.
And we've had like four or five people come here and legit straight up call for violence.
And I'm like, that's just straight up disrespectful.
Why would you do that?
Like, I've seen you on other programs.
You never do this before.
You come here and you just think you have like free reign to just say all the craziest things in the world.
And it's just outright disrespectful and wrong.
Very annoying.
But that's one thing that really does get me.
The swearing happens, you know what I mean?
All right, let's grab this one.
We got Calamari, the number one hater, says, Well, Biden would have to do it, but he just told us he won't be a dictator.
what they do. Corporate media keeps repeating the lie that it's now illegal
to use SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a rival because they're gonna try to do it
to Trump. Well Biden would have to do it but he just told us he won't be a
dictator. All right. Osiris says I'm a former active-duty Marine.
The restrictions we had on engaging in the 90s was insane.
I can't imagine what's going on now with the troops around Israel.
My youngest son is deployed in Jordan now.
Crazy, man.
All right.
I did watch the full video, and I have heard numerous explanations.
One is, he was trying to put his documents on the ground.
No, he was trying to sit down in the chair, but Jill whispered to him not to.
He was thinking of sitting down, but decided not to.
I'm like, dude, all of those are fine.
Just fine.
Okay?
And there is a potentiality that he pooped his pants.
That's all.
I'm not saying I know he did.
I don't, I don't know.
Maybe, probably he didn't.
Could it be 10%?
10% chance an 81 year old man had an accident?
jack posobiec
Slow squirt.
tim pool
Right?
unidentified
Like, okay, how about this?
tim pool
What if he was suffering from severe nerve pain and back pain and he was on the verge of collapse?
jack posobiec
Hot day, he's out there, locked the knees, you know, it happens.
tim pool
And he's getting lightheaded and he's starting to go down a little bit and then he recovers.
Which one do you want to make up?
He was unable to sit down, he was unable to put papers on the ground, he pooped his pants, or he's suffering severe pain in his old age.
I don't care which one you pick.
The point is, any one of them is a fine option.
He is too old, he is suffering, and he should not be where he is.
joshua lisec
You know what they say, vote blue no matter who.
libby emmons
That's horrible.
tim pool
Yep.
Well, too many conservatives say back the blue no matter who, and then they end up supporting a bunch of commies in places like Seattle.
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I just want to say, Jack, thank you for this amazing puppet of myself.
And the skateboard.
We're going to have the crew, we'll make a video of him skating the skate park.
We'll figure out how to do it.
Maybe we'll do stop motion or a green screen or something.
It'll be fun.
jack posobiec
I've had that thing in my house for like a month now.
My children are like, get rid of this thing.
tim pool
It's staring at you while you're sleeping.
jack posobiec
There is something, before we sign off, I do want to address something that Josh and I have been dealing with from Amazon.com regarding the book.
So for people who pre-ordered Unhumans, apparently we have broken the internet and we have broken Amazon.
And so tomorrow was supposed to be the ship date for everyone for the book.
However, people are suddenly getting emails now saying that, uh, my book isn't coming until the weekend or my book isn't coming until next week.
Other people saying my book is coming early.
So we broke Amazon with the book.
It's amazing.
I have no idea how this happened, but it happened.
I'm on the phone with like all my publishers, um, you know, screaming all those words that, that Tim just said we shouldn't say on air here, but here's what I would say.
If your book for whatever reason came in late, take a screenshot of your email, email it to 1776 at human events.com.
And if you are someone who is in this particular bucket, what we are going to do is that myself and Joshua, he doesn't know about this.
What we're going to be doing is a private members only.
You're joining the members now.
Q&A session for all of you that we're going to go through the book and take every single one of your questions for anyone who is affected by the Amazon servers blowing up.
1776 at human events.com screenshot your email.
hannah claire brimelow
Cool.
Where can people find you?
jack posobiec
You can find me in the pages of Media Matters, Right Wing Watch, Patriot Takes, Might It Touch, SPLC, ADL, because for some reason they can't stop talking about me.
hannah claire brimelow
I know, they're obsessed.
And what time is your show?
jack posobiec
We are 2 p.m.
to 3 p.m.
over at Human Events on Real America's Voice, and I may be covering down on a couple shifts for the War Room while Steve Bannon is on extended show prep.
hannah claire brimelow
Cool.
It's been so fun having you here, Joshua.
Where can people find you?
joshua lisec
Well, in 90 or so different books, but not by name.
hannah claire brimelow
But tell us whose books, then.
joshua lisec
Yes.
Well, this one.
This is number 90.
unidentified
He's too good.
joshua lisec
He's too good.
So I'm at Joshua Lysek, L-I-S-E-C, X, Twitter, just at Joshua Lysek.
I like to talk about persuasion in public and literary persuasion and how to write hypnosis scripts in print.
jack posobiec
Tell Tim how much you love Mary Suess.
joshua lisec
Oh, yes.
This will put me on the Mary Sue affair, we call it.
I wrote a 13 million view Twitter thread, now ex-thread, in December 2022.
Put me on Jack's map.
libby emmons
That's how I put you on my map, too.
joshua lisec
That's why we started talking.
I was analyzing how one of the mistakes that memoir authors that I work with make is they will Mary Sue themselves, where they make themselves be perfect and all they had to do was just realize that all the strength they needed and perfection was within them all along.
That's a terrible story.
This is what I tell my autobiography clients.
Particularly the politicians who think it's legit.
That they really are, in fact, that perfect.
And then I realize, wait a second.
Yes.
Which, by the way, I do not believe that there ever was a dog.
I don't believe that there ever was a cricket.
hannah claire brimelow
This could be a whole other show.
Just you telling us whose autobiographies are worth reading and who aren't.
And whose are not.
joshua lisec
Libby!
libby emmons
I'm Libby Emmons.
I'm the editor with The Postmillennial and Human Events, and you can check out all the great work we're doing there at thepostmillennial.com and humanevents.com, and you can find me at Libby Emmons on Twitter.
unidentified
That's awesome.
hannah claire brimelow
It's been super fun having you here.
I think we should talk about why you got into hypnosis on the after show, but I know I'm just one party and it's a big room tonight.
I'm Hannah Claire Brimelow.
I'm a writer for scnr.com, Scanner News.
Follow all of our work at TimCastNews on the internet.
If you want to follow me personally, I'm on Twitter at HannahClaireB and I'm on Instagram at HannahClaire.B.
Bye, Serge!
unidentified
Peace out.
tim pool
We'll see you guys all over at TimCast.com in about a minute.
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