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NY Times Calls For Biden TO DROP OUT, Democrats PANIC Over Debate w/Morgonn McMichael | Timcast IRL
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tim pool
The New York Times, the editorial board has called for Joe Biden to drop out of the race.
It seems like, well, I'll tell you, we're seeing a lot in the press that they want Joe Biden to drop out.
There are serious questions being asked of the Democrats and the Biden campaign and Kamala Harris.
Here's an interesting one for you.
One of the op-eds in The New York Times calling for Joe Biden to drop out because of his debate performance has a date in its URL from the 25th.
Meaning, they started writing this a couple days before the debate actually happened.
They knew what was coming, but perhaps, perhaps they hoped that this was their test.
And a lot of people said this was like a trial balloon.
Will he be able to do this?
And now we are seeing basically across the board, there's like probably two people who are claiming Joe Biden did well.
And it's Harry Sisson, who probably didn't even watch the debate.
He just gets a note card, then he tweets whatever he's told to tweet.
But everybody else is saying, you know, a lot of these Democrats are saying CNN did a bad job.
Others are just saying outright, it is time to find somebody else.
So that is massive.
Then we have huge news from the Supreme Court.
We've got the J6ers, the obstruction charges, are basically overruled by the Supreme Court, saying you can't charge people with this.
Then we've got the Chevron defense has been overturned.
This is precedent.
Basically, that said, federal agencies can make rules for themselves.
Two examples you may be familiar with is when the ATF said, you know what, we're going to ban pistol braces because we interpret it how we want.
And then, of course, COVID vaccine mandates under OSHA.
We interpret the law how we want now.
The courts will have to interpret it.
And that's the way it should be.
So we'll talk about that.
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Joining us tonight, we got a lot of people joining us tonight, but first and foremost, we have Morgan McMichael.
morgonn mcmichael
What's up, everybody?
Thank you for having me back.
Tim, I am a Turning Point USA contributor, Gen Z culture and political commentator, and I'm just excited to talk about all the things that went down at the debate last night and all of our other fun stories.
So thanks for having me back.
tim pool
Right on.
We also have...
Well, should I use your real name or your pseudonym?
We have Adam Johnson.
adam johnson
That's me, the lectern guy.
tim pool
Lectern guy.
adam johnson
Yeah.
tim pool
And then Alex fell asleep.
He's been on too many shows.
alex stein
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This is his third show for us.
This MyPillow is so comfortable.
I just fall right to sleep.
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They also feel like pillows on your feet.
tim pool
He's trying to get that promo code now.
morgonn mcmichael
How about those jeans at Dream Streets?
alex stein
They're great.
I mean, they don't chafe you when you're sweating at night.
They're just very comfortable.
We love MyPillow.
hannah claire brimelow
I've heard you're not a legitimate conservative influencer until you have a MyPillow code.
morgonn mcmichael
Yeah, Mike Lindell.
hannah claire brimelow
Interesting.
Or political.
You know, I don't ever in this room identify as a conservative.
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
I'm a writer for sdnr.com.
I'm happy to be back here.
Happy Friday to everyone who's listening.
Hi, Serge!
unidentified
Yo, what's up?
tim pool
All right, well, here's the big story.
Let's roll the New York Times to serve his country.
President Biden should leave the race from the editorial board of The New York Times.
Ladies and gentlemen, if I were to have if I were to pull up every single corporate press, journalist, columnist or otherwise, we would not be able to get through all of their opinions on the debate in one show.
So we're going to go with the New York Times because this one dropped at 6 p.m.
and it sent shockwaves.
Look, everybody knew.
Anybody paying attention knew this was going to happen, but you know what's really fascinating about this, and I'll read a little bit in just a second, is that we all knew, you knew, I knew, Alex knew, Morgan knew, Adam knew, Hannah Clare knew, Serge knew, and everybody paying attention knew that Joe Biden's brain is broken.
And in the lead up to this debate, what were they saying?
Behind closed doors, he's sharp as a tack.
And there were people out there who live in Wally World and MSNBC World who genuinely believed that they were cheap fakes.
They kept trying to say, Joe Biden's fully with it.
These are cheap fakes manipulated to make you think he's not with it.
And then we watched the debate.
The New York Times says, President Biden has repeatedly and rightfully described the stakes in this November's presidential election as nothing less than the future of American democracy.
Donald Trump has proved himself to be a significant jeopardy to that democracy, an erratic and self-interested figure unworthy of the public trust.
He systematically attempted to undermine the integrity of elections, blah, blah, blah.
At Thursday's debate, the president needed to convince the American public that he was equal to the formidable demands of the office he is seeking to hold for another term.
Voters, however, cannot be expected to ignore what was instead plain to see.
Mr. Biden is not the man he was four years ago.
I'm going to edit this and write, it was plain to see, his brain don't work.
That's what we saw.
His brain don't work.
Everybody realized it.
And it's unfortunate if everybody was watching the likes of, you know, Tim Castellawell Crowder, people like Styx, Viva Frye, et cetera, we would all have known years ago Biden ain't with it.
But now we're here.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, I think part of it is a testament to the fact that Democrats really believe their own propaganda.
I mean, they really believe the things that their own establishment puts out, including no Joe Biden is totally together.
And this is just a right wing conspiracy that things are not the same.
The fact that There is so much shock.
It's not just a couple people who are like, yeah, OK, it looks bad.
It's everyone is like, wow, as it turns out, he really isn't able to speak properly and able to hold down this debate.
I mean, he has whole he he had this other speech today where he acknowledged, you know, I'm not the young man I was, whatever else.
And I heard some commentators be like, well, he looked more energetic today at his own rally.
But so much of being the president is being able to command the moment that you're in.
And he obviously failed.
But it's only Democrats that are surprised because they're the only ones who actually believe There was a chance that this was, this was a conspiracy theory.
tim pool
I fixed it real quick.
So I just, I fixed it.
So I, it now reads, they could not ignore what was plain to see.
Mr. Biden has no brain anymore and he should be in hospice.
adam johnson
Well, look at that.
The New York Times is now credible.
tim pool
So, but I do have to clarify because people won't understand on the internet, nothing is real.
I literally just changed that right now as a joke, please.
It's not real.
alex stein
If somebody thinks it's real, they're smoking it.
tim pool
They will, though.
They will, though.
morgonn mcmichael
They will think it's real.
What's sad to me is the cognitive decline of Biden has been so evident over the last four years, and the amount of people that are surrounded by him.
You have, obviously, Jill Biden, who is the puppet master, it seems like, of all this.
But look at how many people are just around him, working for him, and they refuse to acknowledge the American people.
They are willingly lying to the American people that are Sitting president is incapable of even having a debate, and I don't even think they realized how bad it was going to be last night until he opened his mouth and couldn't even get a coherent sentence out.
And like, you know, Tim, you were saying, the only positive person I can see is Harry Sisson, who is just shilling for the DNC.
I genuinely hope he's a millionaire.
tim pool
Dude, the betting odds for Biden have tanked like 40 percent.
He's in the teens now.
And Harry Sisson is like, wow, he crushed it!
And it's like, dude, the whole world is betting against you.
Nobody believes that.
hannah claire brimelow
He's like, I love an underdog.
Do it, Biden, forever.
tim pool
Also, Alex, I fixed the article again.
alex stein
Alex Stein, longtime 99, loves Big Buddha, Latinas, fact check, true.
Let me tell you this though, it makes me a little, and I don't want to use the word jealous, but I'm a little jealous because this is Donald Trump's biggest problem is that he doesn't have enough support within his own party and yet the liberals will just blindly follow a retarded guy, you know, to D.C.
unidentified
I mean, they would literally vote for Joe Biden knowing that he's not- I saw a post today where this girl was like, Joe Biden forever, I would vote for him if he was in a coma.
tim pool
Yeah, but this is not fair.
I really, and I mean this in all sincerity.
People suffering from legitimate mental retardation are not the same as Joe Biden who is demented.
And I mean demented in the literal sense.
alex stein
I apologize to all the retarded people out there.
tim pool
I respect that.
Thank you for that.
alex stein
Well, no, but at least they will blindly follow him.
If they did that for Trump, we probably wouldn't have had all those sham investigations.
Trump's presidency would have been much better.
I mean, just even what's happened after his presidency with January 6th, like if they,
if our party actually respected him as a president, like they pretend to respect Joe Biden, I
think our country would be better.
But we have a bunch of idiots that are, you know, have the keys to the castle.
And that's why I think our country is sucking so much right now.
morgonn mcmichael
The reality is the current regime is willing to do anything to destroy America and all of their pawns will follow anything they do in the name of social justice and, you know, changing the country for the better while simultaneously just hurting themselves.
adam johnson
Well, the left does a very good job hiding the news that they don't want to get out for their viewers to see, right?
They don't see the gaps that we see.
We ingest news at a much higher rate than most people do.
Debates, you can't hide it.
A lot of people who aren't heavily involved in politics, they wait for the debates to see what's going on.
Last night was probably the first time that the left saw Biden in all of his glory.
tim pool
You know I know that that's true?
This was our biggest live audience ever.
It was over 200,000 concurrence.
And there were a couple of comments where they were like, Tim looks thin.
And I'm like, if the last time they watched the show was when I was like 10 or 20 pounds heavier, it's been a long time for them.
It's been a long time.
hannah claire brimelow
I remember for a while you were like, we have to re-record the outros because I don't look like that anymore.
tim pool
Well, it happens a lot.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, it is interesting.
tim pool
It's like I lost a lot of weight doing Keto and then I stopped Keto and it started coming back and I'm like, these outros are getting bad.
I think we have to redo it again.
hannah claire brimelow
No, but it's interesting because I think you're right.
I mean, if people haven't checked in on any politics since the last election cycle, basically when Biden was trying to get elected, they don't really know what's going on.
And part of that is I have enormous sympathy for Americans who are struggling every day, who are just trying to pay their bills, get to the job, be present in their family lives.
They don't necessarily have the opportunity to follow politics as closely as we do because You know, we do it professionally.
But I think that there's a lot of willful ignorance.
People who are saying, no matter what you say, I will not accept any kind of reality unless Corinne Jean-Pierre has said it was okay for me to accept.
And I think that is actually a form of self-delusion that we really can't tolerate as a culture.
morgonn mcmichael
I think it's all the low-prop voters that are affecting our country.
They just don't know what's going on.
They're so ill-informed that it's going to take, honestly, the grassroots, what Scott Pressler is doing.
He's killing it with the voter registration game, and we have to get the low props.
hannah claire brimelow
Because the spin right now from the Biden administration is, you know, Joe Biden basically said, like, I might be old, I'm not the man I was, but at least I don't lie.
But we know that he lied consistently.
alex stein
Yeah, he said he had a sixth handicap.
hannah claire brimelow
He said no American soldiers died on his watch, and that's completely wrong.
adam johnson
No, he was checking his watch with the American soldiers were dead.
tim pool
That is true.
The golf—I mean this seriously—the golf thing may have actually won Trump more voters than anything else that was said.
Two things.
When he said, you beat Medicare to death, that was actually a really bad moment for Biden because Biden started going, you know, we beat Medicare.
And then they cut him off.
The moderators jumped in because Biden was spiraling.
And then Trump goes, yeah, you beat Medicare.
You beat it to death.
That was a zinger.
Regular people don't know or care.
That's why they like WWE, right?
I'm not saying this disrespectfully, but people got their lives, they're not folks on politics.
They turn this on, and they see Trump nearly fall off the stage, six handicap, and they started busting out laughing.
You like the guy.
hannah claire brimelow
And he's like, I've seen your swing.
That can't be true.
It's funny.
It's also like I'm paying attention.
Dave Portnoy of Barstow Sports had this tweet that he was like, that's it.
Let's settle this on the golf course.
And I think a lot of people are actually find that funny and relatable.
tim pool
Portnoy had the best tweet.
He was like, everything Biden has says has not phased Trump at all until he mentioned his six handicap and Trump nearly fell off the stage.
Like, how dare you?
morgonn mcmichael
Well, I think it also got the culture commentators to start talking about politics in a way that they hadn't before because then it's all of a sudden, oh, let's talk about golf and getting new voters.
tim pool
There is no way Biden has a six handicap.
That's insane.
morgonn mcmichael
No, it's not possible.
alex stein
He shoots a 200 handicap.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you remember when the criticism of Trump was like, he golfs too much, he golfs all the time?
morgonn mcmichael
He's not working enough.
hannah claire brimelow
I think in this case, I trust his opinion that Joe Biden does not have whatever claim to fame in golf he thinks he has.
adam johnson
If it's handicaps for, you know, dementia, Parkinson's disease, you know, sure, he might have a six handicap.
tim pool
Yeah, six of them.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
That's what he thought.
I got a six handicap, my doctor told me.
alex stein
Yeah, but it is kind of sad that everybody's testicles are filled with microplastics.
Nobody can afford a middle-class home.
I mean, literally, people can barely afford to fill up their gas tank.
And the thing that resonates the most of that whole debate is a lie about playing golf.
It kind of shows you how easily we are distracted from what's really going on.
tim pool
Yes and no.
Yes and no.
You know, we were talking about this the day before when our guest was saying, if Trump really wants to reach the American people, he's got to talk about Israel.
I'm not kidding.
That's what he said.
And I was like, yeah, no way.
It doesn't even register in the top 50 issues for people.
If you want to reach regular people, you have to be funny and likable.
Issues actually...
People don't remember what you said to them, they remember how you made them feel.
And when Trump scoffed and said, 60 handicap, that's the biggest lie of the night, people laugh.
It's funny.
And then they're like, that guy's funny.
And how does Trump make you feel?
He made me laugh.
hannah claire brimelow
And Joe Biden made me feel like he was a catty middle school girl.
I mean, he was like, you had sex with a porn star, and he's just like trying to attack Trump personally.
Like, I could be totally wrong and have any fact checks on this, but I think Biden was the first one to make it personal, to start throwing personal dates, whereas Trump was able to just be like, the record, the economy, immigration.
I mean, it's not that he never said anything about Hunter, but it definitely felt like it started with Joe Biden, which to me argues that he is in a weak position.
He's in a very emotional position.
tim pool
Check this out.
We have this article from SCNR, Cassandra McDonald reporting.
New York Times runs seemingly pre-written op-ed calling for Biden to drop out of the presidential race.
The URL indicates the article was at least partially pre-written and loaded up on June 25th.
Check this out.
So this is Nick Kristof calling for Biden to withdraw from the race.
And here you can see it.
The URL is newyorktimes.com slash 2024 slash 06 slash 25 slash opinion slash Joe Joe dash Biden dash drop dash out dot html.
Now, I want to tell you guys, this means they titled this.
They titled the article Joe Biden dropout on the 25th.
When you create a draft, and I'm assuming, to be fair, I'm assuming, but in our system, and correct me if I'm wrong, Hannah-Claire, if you create a draft with a title, it generates that URL as the draft URL, doesn't it?
hannah claire brimelow
It does.
The only defense that I have for this is there are times with our system, and I can't speak to New York Times, where, like, I will start an article, but I won't have time to finish it, then the next day I'll go in and use the same draft post to, like, change the article.
It's a completely different thing.
But the URL won't change.
I don't think it will.
tim pool
It will not.
And so this is what matters.
They began to write this in whatever form two days before the debate happened, and then in the article, Nick Kristof cites the debate saying, after the debate, it's hard to avoid the feeling that Biden remaining in the race increases the likelihood that Trump will move into the White House in January.
I don't think he waited until after the debate was over, went in and edited it.
It is possible.
It is probable.
But I think likely what happened is he wrote this up.
They knew the debate was going to be bad.
And they said, just just wait and see.
Right.
And then after the debate, they said publish.
They knew they wanted Biden to drop out.
adam johnson
So they knew they weren't giving him his PEDs then.
tim pool
His what?
adam johnson
His PEDs, his P-E-Ds.
Performance enhancing drugs.
They must have known that because it's worked before.
tim pool
Did you see that meme where the person's like trying to give Adderall to Joe Biden through the TV and they're pushing it to the screen?
adam johnson
When you're this close to hospice, they don't work anymore.
alex stein
Yeah, but why are we acting surprised?
We know that what he pooped his pants on the beaches of Normandy recently.
tim pool
We don't know that.
alex stein
I know, but we speculate that maybe he didn't poop his pants, but it looked like he did.
tim pool
Here's how you frame it.
There is more evidence that Joe Biden crapped his pants on stage than there is the Hunter Biden laptop is a Russian disinformation scheme.
alex stein
That's a good way to put it.
That'd be hard to debate.
So this isn't a surprise.
People know that he's not capable of being the president for another four years.
So, I mean, it makes sense now the New York Times is turning on him.
They probably should have turned on him a little bit sooner.
This is probably their fatal error is that they're doing it now.
When it could be potentially too late.
tim pool
I think they had to have edited after the fact because he wrote, my phone has been blowing up with texts from people saying, dear God, what are we going to do?
It's imperative we change horses.
But Democrats have been reluctant to say this out loud.
Guys, Biden has announced he will debate Trump again.
You know, hold on.
Just hear me out.
hannah claire brimelow
Great.
Let's do it.
tim pool
The greatest activist against the Democrats right now is Joe Biden.
adam johnson
I almost died from the last drinking game.
I don't think I can survive another one.
tim pool
Did you see those?
adam johnson
Which one?
Oh, the coins, the flips, yes.
tim pool
Yeah, the prison, present for present.
I'm just so excited I'm showing everybody.
hannah claire brimelow
It's funny because Joe Biden is the DNC's biggest enemy and we have people saying like, oh, they'll make him drop out.
But I have said consistently since he took office that they He is not giving up the White House like Joe Biden is going to see every single one of their grandchildren married in the White House if she has anything to do about it.
There are almost two separate entities at war here, and especially the structure that is supporting Biden.
They don't want to leave.
They don't want to give up their chance at, you know, another four years of telling people what to do.
Propagating terrible misinformation?
morgonn mcmichael
I do think that there is a coordinated attempt to get Biden to not run anymore because I don't think it's a coincidence that almost every single mainstream headline today was Trump needs to leave or Biden needs to leave, like there's no way he can be on the ticket.
And it just seemed like it was too planned in my opinion.
And the fact that in the spin room last night, Gavin Newsom was doing a lot more press in the last 48 hours than he has done, I will say, like all year.
And I do feel like they're setting Biden up to leave office.
I've been calling it the great presidential campaign replacement theory, because there's just no way for me that they can put Biden on the ticket and actually think that they have a shot at winning.
hannah claire brimelow
So who would they put on the ticket?
morgonn mcmichael
I honestly think it would be either Gavin Newsom, Michelle Obama, Maybe Kamala Harris, but I don't think Kamala Harris has enough pull and people don't like her enough.
hannah claire brimelow
There are a couple op-eds out today about how Kamala Harris is the one and Joe Biden is the other.
alex stein
What about Hillary?
Have you heard anything about Hillary Clinton?
morgonn mcmichael
There's a theory about her because she just released her book.
alex stein
That's what I'm thinking too.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, I think she wants to stay relevant.
tim pool
And she lost a bunch of weight.
alex stein
Yeah, so that's like, what is she losing that weight for?
tim pool
Yeah, people are saying Ozempic.
alex stein
So I don't know if they do replace, I think like Gavin Newsom has it just, you know, money in the bank to be the candidate in 2028.
So I don't know if he risks running and losing that might hurt him.
Or maybe he looks at it as like a free roll to, you know, do an election as like a test election.
But I have no doubt in 2028 that he will be the Democratic candidate.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, he'll run in 2028 for sure.
morgonn mcmichael
But why is the left so willing to, like, lose?
Like, the debate was so bad.
alex stein
They can get dead people to vote for him, so... 9.6 million illegal immigrants.
hannah claire brimelow
I return to my thesis for the night, which is Democrats believe their own propaganda, right?
They believe that Trump is the be-all, like, the omen of the end times for the United States, that people will not vote for him.
They believe that Joe Biden is, you know, at least...
They would at least take him even if he is not functional.
I mean, I've seen comments on social media today where they were like, it doesn't matter if he's in a coma.
You know, we're voting for the administration.
We're voting for the Supreme Court nominations.
That means that they are voting for the structure around Joe Biden.
They don't actually care about the figurehead, which means that, like, they don't really care if they replace him or not because they believe that there's enough influence in the staff to get the results that they think at least progressive voters want.
adam johnson
My concern is this.
If Joe Biden does step down, does that mean Obama has to as well?
Because it's obvious he's running the show, right?
tim pool
Well, no, no.
The rules of running backroom presidencies is that Biden steps down, Kamala steps in, and Obama stays exactly where he is running the show.
adam johnson
Perfect.
So he's got to find someone who will take orders from Obama.
That's what they're looking for.
I would go with Michelle.
alex stein
Well, the election's in November, but when does he leave?
In January?
unidentified
I wouldn't be surprised.
tim pool
The 20th is inauguration, so then his last day would be that day, like Trump gets sworn in, he's the president.
alex stein
The conspiracy theorist in me believes that they will run Gavin Newsom, but they'll make Joe Biden step down in the interim so that they can put the multicultural woman as president.
And I wouldn't be surprised.
tim pool
Well, so I was saying that one...
So everyone's wondering how you get through Kamala Harris, right?
If Joe Biden steps down, Kamala's next in line.
But if Joe Biden suffers a health issue, Kamala Harris assumes the role of acting president, and then it's clean.
She says, there is no way as acting president in a time of emergency, I can run a campaign.
I am happy to do my duty to this nation.
And I am happy to see Gavin Newsom campaign for the next term.
alex stein
Would she be the vice president for Gavin?
tim pool
No.
alex stein
So he's gonna have another totally different... Yes, Whitmer.
tim pool
But that's the only way you do it, because then she saves face by saying, as the acting president, it would be irresponsible to try and launch a presidential campaign, you know, while trying to save this country in an emergency.
So she gets a clean exit.
And then she cuts a backroom deal with Newsom or whatever.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I was gonna say, I mean, I think part of it is that she is...
She is hoping to transition into another position of power.
I have to imagine someone in Kamala Harris's camp has brought up to her, you're deeply unpopular and people wouldn't vote for you.
But theoretically, what if she got appointed to the Supreme Court?
What if she got appointed, you know, somewhere else where she can have influence?
morgonn mcmichael
I would hire her somewhere in some White House job.
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe, or like an academic position.
But I think ultimately, I am wondering if it's, how can the DNC is like, how can we position it so she is the next Supreme Court nominee?
Because there's theoretically going to be, I think, at least two appointments, we think, in the next four years.
adam johnson
So not a lateral move, but definitely will compensate you for your time.
tim pool
People think she'll get offered the Supreme Court or something.
alex stein
And she'll have a job for life.
I mean, she probably wants that.
hannah claire brimelow
And she doesn't have to get voted in, right?
She has to be confirmed by the Senate.
But, you know, she's not subject to the people's opinion.
And that's been really one of the biggest issues that nobody likes her.
alex stein
I hope if she becomes president, she's like Willie Brown and she can, you know, stop the crisis in the Ukraine by maybe having sex with Vladimir Putin.
hannah claire brimelow
Wouldn't that be fascinating?
alex stein
Joe Biden can't have sex with Vladimir Putin, I don't think.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
You need someone, well, because they're old and, like, it's a medical concern, you know what I mean?
hannah claire brimelow
I don't think Putin would go for it.
alex stein
You don't think so?
hannah claire brimelow
You feel like you're not setting your best.
tim pool
But in all seriousness, Kamala Harris, assuming the presidency, is the fastest path towards nuclear war.
morgonn mcmichael
It's true.
tim pool
I mean, honestly, like, whoever it is, if it's Gavin Newsom, if it's Whitmer, if it's Biden, or otherwise, like, voting Democrat is voting for escalation of international conflict.
adam johnson
Absolutely.
alex stein
Do you think they can drop a nuclear weapon now?
I mean, you really think they can do that?
unidentified
Yes.
morgonn mcmichael
I think they would.
They're too money-hungry and power-hungry if they remain in control of the White House and they are just continuously making foreign money by starting and continuing wars.
tim pool
Well, no, I don't think the U.S.
drops nukes.
I think Russia uses tactical nukes on the battlefield.
According to Russia, nuclear war has begun, I think, a year ago when the U.K.
sent depleted uranium bunker busters or whatever, these massive artillery shells that were radioactive.
And they said, this is nuclear warfare.
Because a lot of nuclear weapons are intentionally radioactive.
Because they have nuclear weapons that can reduce the radioactive yield intentionally.
Some are designed to make massive fireballs.
Some are designed to maximize the shockwave, which shatters glass.
And some are designed to maximize EMP.
So Russia's already stated the UK sending these weapons is nuclear war.
But I'm saying, if Trump gets in, de-escalation in seconds.
If Biden remains in, it's going to be ever-inching escalation.
I mean, we just had those Ukrainian strikes using U.S.
weapons on Russian citizens in Crimea.
So this is the precipice.
Russia says, oh, we'll get you at some point.
And I'm like, wow, that's not a very strong statement.
But if Russia is ever fearing that they're going to lose, and maybe the reason they're not retaliating is because they're winning.
There's no reason to draw in other countries into a massive escalation of the conflict when they've secured the areas they want.
But if Russia ever needed to, they're going to launch low-yield tactical nukes, maybe 10 kiloton bombs, 100 kiloton bombs.
alex stein
And they have boats in Cuba right now that could send missiles and hit us right now.
tim pool
Yeah, and some people fear there's going to be another Cuban missile crisis.
alex stein
Well, I think we're kind of in it, right?
I mean, if they have boats here with nuclear arsenals in those boats, I mean, aren't we- Well, there's no nukes in the boats.
There's not?
No.
I thought the submarines had- but there's submarines there, too.
tim pool
Submarines are nuclear-powered!
alex stein
So no nuclear weapons.
tim pool
No weapons.
adam johnson
Honestly, Miami looked better.
Miami might look better afterwards, anyway.
tim pool
That's unfortunate.
The Everglades are beautiful.
But the big issue, I think what Russia's move was with that was to scare the American people.
Putin's probably thinking, the American people don't know what their government's doing and they don't care.
Let's make them realize what war means.
They send a strike group 10 miles off the coast, and then you see Air Force, Navy, military, whatever, flying out to monitor this, and then all of a sudden the American people are like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, you mean they can come here?
And now they're in Cuba?
They want the American people to react negatively, and they want them to vote for Donald Trump so Donald Trump can de-escalate the war, because de-escalation is better for everybody.
Russia secures their portion of Ukraine, which is they want to take control of Crimea.
They're not going to invade Europe.
That's a ridiculous lie.
The U.S.
just wants to continue expanding, continue to expand NATO, and they want to control Gazprom and other gas exchanges, natural gas exchanges in Europe.
Russia's likely going to stay where they are, and The U.S.
will whinge about it because they want to be the hegemonic power.
Let's do this, though.
Ladies and gentlemen, I got good and bad news for you.
It depends on how many of you are gamblers.
Take a look at this from the betting odds over at RealClearPolling.
The RealClearPolling average has Donald Trump at 54.8% to win, and Joe Biden is now at 19.2%.
Take a look at this.
That is a beautiful sight, isn't it?
After the debate, Joe Biden went from, what was he at, like 37?
Dropping all the way down to 19.2.
Look at that drop off, that spike!
Trump only went up a little bit from 51 to 54.
Newsom went up.
Everybody else went up a little bit.
I don't know.
How much this matters, but I kind of feel like this is a glimpse, a reflection of the wisdom of the crowd and true polling.
You call somebody on the phone and you say, who are you voting for?
They'll tell you anything.
Then they say, oh no, no, trust us, trust us.
It's a representative sample.
You ask people to put their money on the line, and they're going to tell you what they actually think.
alex stein
Well, Vegas is always right.
Like, let's say they put the odds on a game.
Very rarely is it that far off.
tim pool
They don't want to lose money!
alex stein
Yeah, I mean, if they think the Chiefs are going to win by three, the Chiefs always win usually by, like, one or four.
You know, they're always close to whatever they say, so I think these lines do have some authenticity to them.
Like, that's probably what it is.
tim pool
Who wants to challenge Harry Sisson?
to take up the inverse odds. If you really think, and then you could do, do you know what
betting arbitrage is? You guys familiar with this? So when two different betting websites, sporting
websites give different odds, there's a, I don't know if I can explain it, give a really good
example of it, but basically one site will say this fighter has X odds, and the other website
says this fighter has Y odds, and you can actually bet on both of the fighters to win and make money.
unidentified
Bye.
alex stein
You're hedging, but that's not hedging.
tim pool
It's arbitrage.
It's called betting arbitrage.
Basically, if one guy, it's like you bet a dollar, you win a dollar.
The other guy is you bet a dollar, you win a dollar.
It's like you risk two dollars to win three.
Because you're betting on both to win, it's a guaranteed win.
Because different betting websites have different odds.
And you can see right here the different odds they have for Trump.
So, depending on the outcome, like, predict its odds for Biden right now are 25.
The argument is, if you can find bets that have that imbalance, you can make money.
So I'm basically saying, you take up Harry Sisson on his adamant fervor that Biden is going to win, and then you've easily got a win-win where you can't lose.
alex stein
Isn't he like 19, though?
tim pool
21.
alex stein
Oh, okay.
He's a little older than I thought.
tim pool
I mean, the dude clearly doesn't watch politics at all.
No.
morgonn mcmichael
I think he gets his tweets sent to him, like, hey, here's this, tweet it out, we'll pay you $100,000.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised.
I mean, part of it is it's he's treating it like it's like a sports team, right?
He's gonna go down.
He's gonna say whatever Biden does, he's gonna be like, that's amazing.
I mean, you know, people who are like this with like, you know, just gonna lie.
Like the Dallas Cowboys, like they can do no wrong.
And you're like, doesn't matter.
I'm on their team.
And that's fine for sports.
But in this case, if you're trying to act like you are a reputable source for information, I think it would be good to have a little bit of humility here and be like, that was that was not good.
You could still say you're voting for him, but that performance was rough.
morgonn mcmichael
The problem I have is with the people that are following him because they actually are
enjoying his takes.
Like, think about 41 million members of Gen Z who are going to be able to be at the ballot
box in November.
Think of how many of them didn't watch the debate or are chronically online and only
listen to TikTok and they see Harry Sisson or his other guy make TikToks.
His Twitter is all of the information that we're consuming.
Like, obviously we're on the right wing and can see more conservative politics that are transparent, but there are people that I think will see his tweets and think what he is saying is legitimately true.
And that's where I have a problem, is he is willingly lying and will never even admit to it.
Like, he is so sold out on Biden 2024, it's sick.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam johnson
I don't know his metrics though, his views to it.
Have you been in his comment sections?
unidentified
Oh yeah, I mean, I've gone back and forth.
morgonn mcmichael
It's like, still, if you go on his TikTok and there's also Gen Z for change, we're tweeting and posting about it.
And like, I'm 24, I'm a Gen Z-er, so I'm on the college campuses and I see what they're talking about.
And I think for a lot of moderate, independent Gen Zers who are more concerned about the social justice issues more than immigration and policy, they see what he's saying and they're like, oh, late-term abortion?
Yeah, I'm for that.
And just with the sole fact that they're the low-prop Gen Z voters.
That's the only thing that I'm concerned about.
alex stein
Does anybody like a late-term abortion, though?
I mean, do people on the left even?
morgonn mcmichael
Feminists, yeah.
No, it's like a real thing.
tim pool
Young progressives.
alex stein
Young people on the left are still kind of like, eh.
unidentified
Nope.
tim pool
No way, dude.
You'd be shocked.
Every progressive we've debated on this show, on Culture War, has been adamant about the right to abort up to the point of birth.
alex stein
That makes you a sicko.
That makes you a murderer.
tim pool
Well, sure, sure.
Vosh on the show, I asked him, when does life begin?
He says, some point after birth.
morgonn mcmichael
So they usually say, like, at first breath or something.
That isn't a legitimate debate.
alex stein
But see, that's so stupid because it's not true.
If you're pregnant and you get in a car crash, like a DWI car crash, somebody hits you, that's a double murder.
tim pool
Not in every state.
alex stein
Oh, really?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, not in every state.
alex stein
Oh, wow.
I know that's in Texas if you're pregnant.
tim pool
I think California too.
alex stein
But but so that proves that obviously it's a life.
tim pool
Yep, of course it does.
alex stein
So I mean, it's just very stupid.
And like, I get the argument.
I mean, I'm anti abortion, but I get the argument.
Oh, first trimester, second trimester, maybe like I kind of understand their point.
But up until birth, I mean, that is literal murder.
And then on top of that, Planned Parenthood has been exposed selling these baby body parts all over multiple times.
Like, I don't understand how people don't see how sick it is to carry a baby to full term and then kill it.
hannah claire brimelow
I think part of it is that abortion has become an issue that you're not allowed to question without questioning feminism, which I think you should do.
I think about, you know, there's very little – it's similar to the birth control conversations, right?
Like, you can't say, hey, maybe the birth control pill has long-term side effects that we don't talk about enough.
Without it being like you are trying to set women back and chain them to the kitchen and whatever else, like, the fear is.
And I think it's similar with abortion, right?
Like, if you don't let women have access to abortion, then you hate them and you're trying to enslave them or whatever.
When really, like, the conversation would be like, do we have enough research out there about the long-term consequences of these things?
I'm with you. I think it should be something that you don't want, that people are against,
that it is a life and you recognize that. But if you're like a belief science and just everything
feminist, I think the way to convert them would be like, hey, has anyone done a study on what the
long-term consequences for your body after you have an abortion are? Because I think part of it
is they don't talk about it because we can't question this at all. It's so – it really is
an emotional issue, but not in terms of preserving life. It's emotional in the sense of like you are
questioning the philosophy and ideology with which I govern every decision I make, extreme feminism.
alex stein
Well, but if you're trying to appease feminists, then why do you let trans people in all their circles?
morgonn mcmichael
And that's what I say all the time, is it's like the toxic feminism is, you know, it's pro-abortion, it's pro-men competing in women's sports, they've adopted the T, the LGBT is now a part of feminism, and it makes absolutely no sense.
I said the feminist movement is the most anti-woman movement we've ever seen.
And to your point, it's true.
Like, why don't we talk about the emotional side effects?
I think conservatives have finally, you know, gotten on the birth control train and talking about All of the ways that feminism is hurting our generation, but I think that a lot of these women are so scared of leaving the feminist cult and speaking out against like, oh, yeah, maybe men shouldn't be in women's sports, but now you're not a feminist and you're not pro-women because trans women are women.
It's become this complete just dystopia on the left.
adam johnson
Alex and I are the same generation, right?
Between us and Gen Z. They've watered down the word, right?
I'm sure they don't use abortion in your circles.
They call it health care.
They've moved that goalpost so far down.
It's now health care.
morgonn mcmichael
It's a woman's right.
adam johnson
I believe it's murder.
That's what I believe.
I believe it is always murder.
I don't want to celebrate it.
We don't celebrate suicide.
Why do we celebrate murder, right?
It is the removal of life.
It's never a good thing.
I understand sometimes it happens.
Life of the mother is involved.
Rape, incest, we have these things.
You water that down so much and call it health care.
Who's going to fight that?
hannah claire brimelow
Have you ever looked?
I've done this a couple times where I'll have a super liberal friend and you'll be like, well, I don't believe it's health care.
And it's like there's a glitch.
They don't know how to respond to that because they are so ingrained in this conversation of like, if you don't let women have abortions, it's like not letting someone who's diabetic have insulin.
It's a complete It's so different from how we view it and I think that's – one of the conversations that I like that abortion brings up is like, well, how do we value life and where does it begin and like what are the things that we are willing to say no to as a culture?
And I think ultimately it's one of the things that reveals how trust the science team doesn't actually use any of their own methods to prove what they want, right?
Do you guys know if abortion has any long-term consequences?
Do we know if abortion creates any kind of scar tissue?
Do we know if abortion has any kind of increase in cancer rates?
I bet anyone who advocates over abortion doesn't know any of this.
adam johnson
Yes, I have seen the liver white women and what happens to them after they have abortions.
They're all freaking nuts.
morgonn mcmichael
Well, most of them have never even seen what an abortion actually is, and that's also a major problem, but they're so bought into regurgitating the talking points that they've been fed by their movement that they're unwilling to hear out any opposing opinion about any of the social justice issues.
Same thing with BLM and everything.
If you go against their regime, then you are no longer a feminist, and you don't fit in with our crowd.
It's either you agree with all of it or none of it.
hannah claire brimelow
Because you're threatening their identity.
morgonn mcmichael
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
And that's what I think about, like, Harry Sisson and the Biden stuff, too.
It's like, if you have decided that you are pro-Biden, no matter what happens, you're going down, like, everyone gets irritated with the, like, always Trumpers, right?
Like, liberal media will be like, they would do anything that Trump says, and this, that, and the other.
It's like, you guys have those people, too.
In fact, you're almost worse, because in this case, there's an elderly man on stage who seems to be really struggling, and you guys are just catching up on the fact that maybe this isn't okay.
tim pool
We got more big news.
There's so much.
Take a look at this tweet from Political Polls.
You want to read that, Alex Stein?
alex stein
New Jersey general election is giving Trump an advantage by 1.41% Trump, 40% Joe Biden.
tim pool
This is either his coefficient.
They've done a lot of polls.
They're cited widely.
It's got to be either the worst polling organization known to man to put Trump up in New Jersey.
Perhaps it is just a blip on the radar.
If this is an accident, this is like just a polling error, Trump shouldn't be anywhere near Biden.
New Jersey's like D plus 20 something.
alex stein
How many people went to his New Jersey rally?
Wasn't it like 100,000?
tim pool
That's South Jersey.
And it was, yeah, they estimated like 100,000.
So even if this is in the margin of error, that is wild.
And now it may be their poll is spot on.
Trump is winning in New Jersey.
adam johnson
There were Gen Z kids at that rally in New Jersey.
Did you see that, um, that younger kid, the white kid that went viral is talking about, oh, I can't repeat it here as YouTube, but young people are showing up even in New Jersey.
morgonn mcmichael
Young people are showing up.
I think they're actually hungry for the truth.
I will say, like this past semester, traveling with Charlie Kirk and Turning Point at our Change My Mind events and all of our speaking events, we've had the longest lines that I've ever seen being involved in politics in the last three years.
And I genuinely see our generation waking up and they're sick and tired of being lied to by the regime and constantly being on their phones.
But the thing is, is You know, they're going to college and still being indoctrinated every single day that they have to actually seek out the truth or it's going to take people like us going to those campuses and changing their minds.
But I do see it.
I do think that there is a large amount of our generation that is going to go to the polls because they are sick of it.
hannah claire brimelow
So I did ask what is the biggest issue facing our generation today and the number two answers I got were political division and it actually was inflation.
It was I am concerned that I'm not going to be able to afford to buy a house.
I have no savings.
supposed to become an adult right now.
morgonn mcmichael
So I did ask what is the biggest issue facing our generation today?
And the number two answers I got were political division and it actually was inflation.
It was I am concerned that I'm not going to be able to afford to buy a house.
I have no savings.
I can't get a job because the job market right now in America is horrible for current graduates.
They can't seem to find jobs.
And I know it's been viral on TikTok lately of people are applying to hundreds of jobs and can't even land a couple of interviews to even get a job.
So I do think like for the large amount, immigration for Gen Z, I wouldn't say is a huge issue, because I think they see the social side of immigration more than millennials and Gen Xers.
But for Gen Z, I will say the inflation is definitely hitting their bank accounts more than they thought.
adam johnson
Anecdotal, but I got kids, lots of kids.
So many kids.
So many children.
Oldest is in high school.
When I was a kid growing up, you were, you know, by the time you were a junior, you always had a car.
Like, you had a license, you had a car.
alex stein
Yeah.
adam johnson
The car lot is empty at the high school.
These kids aren't getting cars, right?
And that used to be a thing.
You grow up, you hit 17, 18, you work at a job for a couple months, your parents kind of pitch in, meet you halfway, you get a vehicle.
These kids don't have cars.
alex stein
Well, I'm not trying to talk about me, but getting a car is like the most important thing.
I got a hardship license.
My dad and I, we went, so I got my license at 15, and he lied and said he had a bunch of health problems and I had to drive him to the hospital at any moment.
I hope we don't get in trouble for that.
But my point is, that is crazy how much we've changed in a short time.
That was the most important thing in my life, was like getting a car, driving.
And now the fact that kids don't want to do that, that's very... I don't think they can afford it.
adam johnson
I think it's that.
I think they can't afford it.
hannah claire brimelow
It's not just the car, it's the gas and the maintenance.
tim pool
Oh, but cars have gotten Way expensive.
adam johnson
We're shopping for a car for my oldest.
alex stein
You can get a cheap beater car.
Like, my first car was a $700 Ford Explorer.
And it broke down, like, all the time.
hannah claire brimelow
Car insurance is up, like, 25%.
I mean, it is what?
So you're saying you're shopping for a car for your oldest?
adam johnson
We're shopping a car for our oldest.
And we want something that has, you know, it's reliable, lower miles, and it'll last through college or whatever.
But we're talking, like, $12,000, $13,000 for a used car with 50-plus thousand miles on it.
tim pool
My first car was a hatchback Mazda 323.
And I've been trying to find one, but...
They're just gone.
It's 1989.
It was 1989.
Mazda 323.
And it was, uh, it was like 800, 900 bucks.
And it broke down all the time and then it just stopped working after a little while.
But that's your first car, you know?
morgonn mcmichael
Mixing cars builds character.
tim pool
It had a cassette player in it.
And I remember I was 18 and I was driving on the highway and it's super small.
You can probably fit two, three people in there comfortably and four people in there uncomfortably.
And it's just this tiny thing, but it was mine.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah I think that that I mean it's it's sort of an American thing because we are a more driving culture than other countries but like getting getting your license and being able to go and being able to either go to a job or your friend's house or things that you're interested in like it is it is a big goal for a lot of teenagers.
I had a lot of friends who, when we were in high school, you know, their grandparents passed
and they inherited their car.
And it was a way to just get started.
And it's not like it's super cool, but it's also like allowed them to begin
to do all kinds of things, pursuing interests, whether it's professional or just on the side
or whatever it is.
And the fact that teenagers are already hitting this barrier.
I can't imagine being a new graduate or someone who's coming out of the trades being like, I would like to buy a home.
I would like to start a family.
I would like to start saving for a cool trip and just feeling like you could never do it.
That sort of hopelessness is one of the things that I think the economic issues has a severe impact on the younger generations.
When you're older, you've had some savings, you go through a hardship, like it's tough, you don't like it, you're stressed.
But being able to be like, anything I want right now, I can literally not achieve because I can't afford it.
It's devastating.
tim pool
People are just starting cat families.
I'm not even joking.
It's like these young people are like, I can't afford anything, and they get a cat.
alex stein
I can't hate on that.
tim pool
I'm not saying cats are great, I'm just saying they should be having babies.
Where do you put the babies if you don't have a house?
morgonn mcmichael
And they can't afford a house anymore.
I mean, the median price change from 2020 just to 2024.
I mean, what you used to be able to afford with a $60,000 salary, you need now double that.
And the kids don't have savings like me, myself.
I'd love to buy a house right now.
And I think that's why our marriage rates have dipped and why the birth rate has dipped is also because people are so concerned about affording it.
That's why women continue to work and slave away in the corporate world.
How am I going to afford it?
alex stein
Or do OnlyFans now.
Every girl's doing an OnlyFans to make money, which is like another part of our society where it's like degrading so much because the girl's like, I don't know how to get a job.
Okay, well, I can show my boobs and make, you know, 5,000 bucks a month or whatever it is.
adam johnson
Not everyone has good boobs.
alex stein
Yeah, that's true.
I don't know if you even have to.
tim pool
Not every guy wants that, you know what I mean?
morgonn mcmichael
I saw a story of a girl who tried OnlyFans and she ended up losing money because nobody was actually subscribing to her and she was sold this false reality by the one percenters saying, go on OnlyFans, you'll make a ton of money, it's worth it.
And she ended up selling just her body to these men and not actually being able to afford a living and now she's just working a desk job.
tim pool
I think it's China.
alex stein
China.
tim pool
Yeah, I think if I was working in cyber command of the U.S., I'd be like, we want to get as many of our adversaries' women quitting their jobs and being degenerates, because it will depress their economy, it will slow growth, and it will distract and steal resources from men.
The women producing sexual content will not be adding anything substantive to the economy.
So that means you are shifting production towards something that can't benefit them in the long run, and it will build bad behaviors, it will depress their fertility rates.
It is the best psychological attack on a nation.
alex stein
You're exactly right, because the fentanyl crisis is coming straight from China.
tim pool
Imagine if, absolutely, imagine if every woman on OnlyFans instead was making birdhouses, right?
Imagine if there was an app called OnlyBirds, and it's like, oh man, you can make $10,000 a month with birdhouses.
Hey, guess what?
At the end of that month, there's a bunch of birdhouses, and that's something functional people can use.
But at the end of that month, that porn content they made is nothing.
It's literal nothing.
So what's happening is, the women on OnlyFans, they take money from men.
They go to the grocery store, and they buy milk, bread, and eggs, right?
It's more than that, but just simply put.
Where is the labor being produced to replace the products being extracted from the economy?
The way an economy should work basically, if you go back in time, is I'm going to grow wheat, and then I'm going to trade that wheat to a baker in exchange for finished baked products.
And it's the synergy between what I make and what he makes, and then that's how you get an economy.
One guy makes milk, one guy makes wheat, one guy bakes it, and we all trade with each other.
If some dude shows up and he starts just shaking his butt and everyone starts giving him money, then he buys all the baker's goods, all the farmed goods, then there's no trade between them for the food they need.
Then the guy who grows wheat says, I don't have enough money to buy the wheat.
I'm saying, I think, not necessarily China, but It would be very easy for China or Iran or Russia to subscribe to OnlyFans intentionally to get these women to quit their jobs.
What was that?
You're a cop?
You're a nurse?
Do porn instead.
After a month of making a bunch of money, they go, oh man, I'm gonna do this instead.
And then you leave.
There are tons of women who are like, I got fired from my job once they found out I did OnlyFans.
And now they're no longer producing anything valuable for an economy.
morgonn mcmichael
I think it's also like the TikTok brain rot.
In addition to that, it's like, who's to say that Russia, China aren't manipulating the news streams to the next generation, causing them to think that, you know, being an influencer is the next new big job.
So in addition to porn, you also have these people with no real education or talent who are able to make a quote unquote living off the internet, but I don't think it's actually sustainable.
And I think it's another way to just psychologically cripple the American people.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, and I think a lot of OnlyFans slash influencer culture, I know they're, they're technically different.
It feeds on a level of like materialism and security that a lot of young people, but definitely think a lot of young Americans have, you know, it looks cool.
They're always on vacation, they have flashy things.
This OnlyFans girl bought her crazy car, like this influencer is, you know, going to meet cool celebrities or whatever it is, like, it's aspirational content, but not in a way that It cultivates strong values.
It's aspirational in that it plagues on our deep insecurities that we don't have the cool thing or we don't have enough or we don't get to live this luxurious lifestyle.
And I think that's sad.
morgonn mcmichael
It's idolizing oneself instead of something greater than yourself.
And I think that plays into like the Gen Z election.
That's why they're so attached to the left is because that's what they're propagating on the left is instead of, hey, trust in in other people and you know reject the government they're
so used to getting the handouts and they're used to like talking to the big government and I
think that's a problem is because they're just used to being handed everything and it's the social
issues and they trust the Democratic Party instead of actually seeking up towards something
bigger than themselves.
hannah claire brimelow
When you're on college campuses do you ask young young college students or you know young
voters what their ideal life is?
Because I think it would be so different than the way your grandparents described it.
morgonn mcmichael
Yeah, I mean, majority of the time I've asked, like, oh, what's your dream job?
They're like, oh, I want to be a podcaster, a YouTuber.
But I feel like people think that they're genuinely just going to make a ton of money and live this, like, happy, socialist, utopic life.
Because I've met multiple people who are genuine communists and Marxists on college campus.
I've walked through the Hamas encampments, and they're just so convinced that they're gonna get paid to protest, I think, the rest of their lives.
And, like, the normie people are like, oh, I'm just gonna work a job the rest of my life, you know, maybe have some kids.
But it's not trending in the way that they're going to actually foster healthy nuclear families in the future because they idolize themselves and they're more worried about just making a living on their own and making money and climbing the non-existent societal social ladder.
alex stein
Well, maybe you disagree with this, but I actually would encourage people to try to like YouTube or podcasts.
If you actually put enough effort into it, you could be successful because more kids, I think, say that they would rather be a YouTuber than an astronaut now when they get surveyed.
So it's like anything in life.
If you really want to be a YouTuber, you really want to be a content creator, then learn how to edit, learn how to shoot.
And if you don't succeed in your own content, there's so many people that need editors and that need this skill.
So if you really do want to do that, I say go all in.
And I don't think that's bad for society.
Young people are like, I want to be an influencer.
morgonn mcmichael
I'm not saying that you said that.
They idolized influencer and the materialism culture that's shown online, but they won't.
Exactly.
hannah claire brimelow
I think an influencer who is like, hey, I'm really interested in this issue and I'm going to create content around it is very different than someone who's like, I want to be a vague lifestyle influencer where I just feel myself kind of doing nothing all day.
You know, there are people who are really passionate about something and the internet is great because they are able to basically create their own businesses, but it's very different than, you know, I would just want to know from a 17-year-old, like, when you say influencer, what do you mean?
Do you mean that, like, you have, you're really into candle making and you want, are you, oh, are you killing flies over there?
You want to have a YouTube channel where you kill, you, you kill flies.
You make candles and you teach everyone the empire of candles or whatever.
Versus like I want to be able to like take selfies in the mirror and be played to advertise like the coolest newest yoga line or whatever it is.
Like very different in terms of what you're contributing and kind of how it feeds your psyche when you're doing it.
alex stein
Yeah, but what industry does America really even have anymore?
I mean, besides the military-industrial complex, like, if you want to work for Halliburton or Raytheon or General Dynamics, you have a good job, but I'm just trying to think, like, what industry is even thriving in America today that's really good for young people to get into?
I mean, insurance salesmen?
unidentified
No.
alex stein
I mean, become a teacher, become a nurse, I guess?
adam johnson
But most of the nurses are freaking travel nurses from somewhere else, so... Bloomberg had an article, I think it was, people making up to, I think it was a quarter million dollars a year, a third of them are living paycheck to paycheck.
alex stein
Yeah, I saw that too.
unidentified
Wow.
adam johnson
Nutty.
tim pool
I don't think people realize how bad things are getting.
That video the other day where the dude said I reordered groceries from two years ago and it went from $100 to $440.
You're making $250,000 and you're paying over $100,000.
alex stein
$140. You're making $250,000, you're paying over $100,000.
adam johnson
My grocery bill is $3,000 a month. No, it's not.
tim pool
But you've got 17 kids.
adam johnson
I have 16.
tim pool
17 boys!
alex stein
And that's at Costco?
You're spending that much money?
adam johnson
No, this is, uh, we shop deals.
We do bogos, you know?
I mean, I still eat steak because, well, I'm not gonna eat steak.
tim pool
I know, right?
Let the kids eat something.
They can eat grass.
adam johnson
All they can eat is steak.
alex stein
You need to go buy a cow and just use the cow all year.
tim pool
Cows are extremely expensive.
morgonn mcmichael
No, it's cheaper if you invest.
If you buy one cow and have it processed, and then you have that meat and freeze it for years like my family does, it is the most economical way to actually have steak.
Like, my mom actually just bought a pig, a full pig, and it was like $5 a pound for the entire pig, but you have to have the initial investment.
hannah claire brimelow
And you can't just only eat steak, then you have to use all the parts.
morgonn mcmichael
It's all of it, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
And you also have to have a place to store it.
Like, I know people who want to do this, but they live in apartments.
Like, do you have a deep freezer in your apartment?
tim pool
Yeah, it's 900 to 5,000 on average.
alex stein
Yeah.
900 bucks is cheap for a year of steaks.
tim pool
It's got to be butchered.
It's got to be stored properly.
morgonn mcmichael
That's it.
alex stein
You cut it up, store it.
morgonn mcmichael
Cause they deliver it in the freezer pack.
tim pool
I tell you this, it's actually something easier is that if you get a bunch of them, you're, you're, you're, you're making money.
Cause if you leave them alone for long enough period of time on a large enough piece of land, they make more of themselves.
And then it's like, you buy two next thing, you know, you got three.
morgonn mcmichael
Or you can just eat the Bill Gates food.
tim pool
Well, this is the great thing about chickens.
Because you just leave them alone and then you come back and there's more.
And then it's like, well, I'll be damned.
They make more themselves and you eat the extras.
alex stein
And the eggs.
You get all those eggs.
Unlimited omelets.
tim pool
They lay a lot.
I think they lay like a dozen if they get broody and start laying on them.
morgonn mcmichael
Like one a day.
tim pool
Yes, every day.
But you can eat the boys.
You know what I mean?
The roosters, too many of them.
You can eat them.
Chicken nugget.
It's great.
morgonn mcmichael
It does bring back homesteading.
hannah claire brimelow
But it would require people not living in apartments, which require them not living
in cities, which is hard.
alex stein
Yeah, you're right, Anna-Claire.
It's hard because that's the reality is that people live in metropolitan cities and apartments.
Most people don't have the ability to have a deed for a future, right?
morgonn mcmichael
Well, it's because they can't even afford a house.
Genuinely, this is all coming from the WEF.
You will own nothing and you will be happy.
It's intentionally done to where our generation is being crippled to not be able to buy houses
so they can't actually have their own self-sustainable family life, and instead you're going to
rely on the government.
tim pool
Yes, but they're going to have neural link, virtual AI generated porn to watch.
morgonn mcmichael
It's WALL-E.
tim pool
Yeah, it's gonna be worse than WALL-E.
Imagine if we were watching WALL-E, but all of the fat people on those carts were actually watching porn the whole time.
hannah claire brimelow
Disgusting.
alex stein
Yeah, that's what they say, that you're gonna be hooked up to a machine and you're gonna be able to like ejaculate multiple times a day through this whatever metaverse that they plug through your cerebral cortex and it's gonna be better than the reality
that you're living currently.
And they're gonna say that you can live for a thousand years in the metaverse, but only 70 years.
adam johnson
I believe that is not true.
tim pool
It's not about ejaculation.
It's about them just triggering the dopamine in your brain like they did with that rat.
They'll put an electrode in your brain with a neural link, and then it's like you're gonna be in this VR world,
and then Klaus Schwab will appear in front of you wearing his weird
comic book villain costume, and he's going to look at you and go, Alex, hello.
Are you satisfied?
Are you happy owning nothing and living in Zippod?
And you're going to be like, I click yes.
And when you do, it's going to go, it's going to wash over like opiates, like heroin.
You're going to feel so good to live in the pod and eat the bugs.
adam johnson
It is impossible to emulate the connection you have with someone when you have physical intimacy.
I don't care what chemical they put in my brain, whatever.
The connection I have with my wife is stronger than anything they could possibly feed my brain.
That takes time.
That takes investment.
That takes showing up and being there for them.
These one-night stands, these things.
People have no idea what that connection feels like.
tim pool
It's true.
You pity them.
And the challenge is making that connection is much harder than, you know, sensory triggering of a dopamine receptor or something.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
So they put the rats in the cage and they put the electrode in the brain and the rat was able to press the dopamine release button and it just gave up on everything.
It started mashing the button.
alex stein
Well, and I'm not trying to, you know, bring it back there, but I think the sexual aspect of it is going to be important, though, because so many guys basically hate women.
I noticed, like, I got a bunch of kickback, because Dana White, who I'm sorry for tweeting this, even though I'm not really that sorry, when he hit his girlfriend, or hit his wife at the time, I was like, this is disgusting, a guy should never hit his wife.
And I got killed in the comments section.
It's like, equal left, equal right.
Yeah, literally.
And I'm saying, my conservatives are like, yeah, you should, if she hit him first, you should hit him back.
And then on top of that, Tim, what's some of the biggest content?
tim pool
Defend yourself.
alex stein
Well, excuse me, Morgan's got on this podcast, whatever podcast where you just have on OnlyFansGirls and you just yell at him.
So men, I think, are sexually frustrated and are mad at women.
There's a weird animosity between this younger generation.
They can't go on dates more.
This online dating makes it so superficial that it's hard to meet a person in real life because they're automatically swiping left and right.
adam johnson
Maybe they should stop watching porn.
alex stein
Yeah, that's a big, porn's a big aspect.
That's what I'm saying.
Porn is hurting intimacy, all the socioeconomic factors that they're poor, the fact that girls are, it's harder to get with.
I think that's why the younger society is so mad.
hannah claire brimelow
And I think there, we took away a lot of cultural dynamics, like as we move towards sexual liberation and it's like, anyone can do whatever.
We also took away some sort of like social protocols that people were like, okay, so how do you ask a girl out?
You call her on the phone.
You call her in advance.
Like, it sounds so dumb and basic, but if you watch those old-timey 50s videos where
it's like, how to politely ask a girl to prom, there are things that I think young men, especially
because they're in a difficult position where they have to be the ones to put yourself out
there and ask someone else.
Like, we made it so like, but if you do that, she'll think you're creepy.
But actually you should text her on OnlyFans or you should do whatever.
It made it so much more difficult than it needs to be because we were like pursuing liberation, so to speak.
It didn't make any sense and you guys have, young men have really paid the price.
tim pool
Is it okay to strike a woman if it's because I'm trying to hit the fly but the fly was on him?
alex stein
Accidental striking is okay, but that's the other thing.
I'm telling you, these dating apps are really bad too because, and this is not all women, but women get more messages than men on these apps.
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
And don't get messages.
alex stein
So these women have kind of weird expectations now where they have all these guys are throwing themselves at you.
So it does make it just harder.
It just shows it all.
tim pool
It is still possible to meet women in the real world.
And I think I think the perception from media because of apps has made a lot of guys think you can't.
But I'm just gonna throw out this like a very simple scenario.
I'm not I'm not gonna encourage anybody to do anything because you got to figure out your own lives.
But just imagine there's a dude in Miami, and he's got a dog, maybe maybe it's a 15 pound dog, not a big one, but not a little one.
And he's walking on the beach and then Oh, It got off the leash and then runs over to a couple girls
in bikinis and they're going, oh, it's a dog.
And then you walk over and say, sorry about that.
Rex is a little, he loves people.
Boom.
alex stein
You just met two people.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, you know, out in the real world to do that.
Exactly.
So I think the other part is like, you should just ask your friends to set you up.
Now the caveat there is that like, you can't be a jerk who sleeps with her and never calls
her back.
And you can't be a terrible girl who shows up and is like, I want the most expensive
thing on menu.
And you're a terrible person and like talks down to someone like you yourself that have
to conduct yourself in a way that your friends would be like, yeah, I'm proud to know you.
But actually everyone knows someone.
You probably know someone who is single and looking for someone.
You should just refer them to each other.
morgonn mcmichael
The problem is, is feminism has weaponized masculinity against men to where if you show
any kind of masculinity, opening the door for a woman, having being chivalrous, asking
her on a date that can be seen as creepy or unwanted attention.
And that's why so many women just go on dating apps.
And it's true, women get seen Exponentially more than men and will get messages.
And I think women selfishly love the attention where they go on the dating apps, not actually to go on a date ever.
They just want to be a pen pal and they want to continue to just have these conversations, get fed compliments, and then they can turn off their profiles and leave.
And then it's going to take someone to come in the real world to actually meet them.
hannah claire brimelow
I always hear girls be like, well I went through a breakup and so I immediately downloaded this thing so I could feel better.
morgonn mcmichael
It's for attention!
hannah claire brimelow
You should feel better not because random men on the internet are praising you.
You have a self-esteem issue and I hope you address that.
tim pool
That's why they go on those reddits where they just post naked pictures of themselves.
For free.
morgonn mcmichael
I was at the University of Alabama and I asked women, do we need men?
Like, a southern school.
And I had multiple women say, no, we don't need men.
Someone who even had a boyfriend said, I love my boyfriend, but like, I don't need him.
He's nice to have around.
How sad is that?
Every single man I asked Every single man I ask that question, do we need women?
Absolutely we need women.
And it just shows the depravity of our generation that these women have bought into feminism and they go around saying, we don't need men.
I'll go on dating apps.
I can sleep with whoever I want to.
The sexual glorification of oneself and only fans.
Feminism says it's good.
tim pool
I think what we should do is, Alex, you should go to a college campus and ask women if women need men.
And when they say no, say, oh, thank God.
And then pull out one of those full body suits you use to climb in the sewers and hand it to her and be like, we got a serious problem in the sewer and ain't no man wants to do it.
So, lady, it's your job.
You're going to climb around in human waste and you're going to start digging dead rats out of pipes.
But you don't need no man, right?
Well, guess what?
Women don't do that job.
alex stein
No, gender roles are real.
Go ahead.
hannah claire brimelow
It's the word need, right?
Women are like, I can't need a man.
I can't need anything from him.
Of course people need each other.
That's why we have communities.
It's not a scary thing.
It's not a comment on your character.
It's that feminism has told women that if you say you need a man, that means that you are weak and whatever else.
It's so toxic to their psyche and I think ultimately that's why they all look at this language and say, I wonder if there's a way to phrase that question where they'd be like, no, of course, of course he should be around.
If they hear the word need and they're like, I can't say that, that's anti-feminist.
adam johnson
I think it comes down to pride.
No one wants to admit that they have faults.
No one wants to admit that they need help.
Sometimes it comes down to pride.
We are a culture that just, we are perfect people and there is nothing wrong with what I'm doing.
Even the wrong things that I'm doing are not wrong.
tim pool
You know, I always just try to be, whenever I can, encourage people who are trying to get fit.
Go to a gym.
alex stein
That's the best place to meet somebody.
tim pool
But if there's a dude who's working out, and you can tell that he knows what he's doing, and you're out of shape and you've never worked out before, and you ask for advice, that dude will feel like a million bucks to share his expertise.
It's like, every guy's dream to be complimented, because they never get complimented.
There's the meme where it's like, The woman says, I asked my guy friend, when was the last time you got complimented?
He was like, I've never been complimented.
It's like, women don't realize that guys do not get compliments unless they like lift a boulder or win a competition and get a gold medal or something.
But you walk into that gym and you see a guy and he's clearly successful at his workout routine.
You're like, hey man, could you give me a few pointers on how to, you know, do the lifting right?
Like, what am I supposed to do?
He's gonna be like, yes!
Super excited.
And that's true for probably most sports.
Like, And pick a sport.
You wanna play pickleball?
I bet you show up, there's gonna be a dude there, and he's gonna be like, yeah, let's play pickleball, this is great, I'll show you everything.
Cuz, that's it.
Communities, it's not as hard.
Like, you just gotta go outside and you gotta talk to people.
adam johnson
My jiu-jitsu gym's just like that, Gracie Bradenton.
Like, we love when people come in because we practice, we train.
Three or four days a week, when we have someone new come in, we get excited.
Cuz they're like, man, that was awesome, show me that.
And then you spend years with these people training them, it's great.
tim pool
You're like...
You've been doing jiu-jitsu for two weeks, and then someone walks in and they're like, can you teach me something?
You're like, yes, I can, actually.
I've been doing this for two weeks.
alex stein
Well, the worst thing, and I think it goes, it's like, it's the nuclear family.
The fact that most people... The worst thing is the nuclear family, I agree.
unidentified
Well, I mean... I don't know if it's the worst thing ever.
morgonn mcmichael
But because these kids are born without a dad or without a mom or whatever for whatever reason and I mean you're gonna be screwed up you're gonna have daddy issues if you're a girl then maybe start only fans of your dad's on your life and then if you're a guy you know raised without your mom you're probably gonna be like I don't know maybe a anti-woman it's just I think that's the problem is that we don't have enough two parents yeah I mean we don't have enough two parent homes Well, think about no-fault divorce in our country, to where kids are being raised in these unstable households, and it is the destabilization, 100% of the nuclear family, that is... I mean, the next generation, when it comes to dating, if they grew up in a divorced household, they already go into their next relationship like, I don't know if this is forever.
And it's really sad.
alex stein
Yeah, I mean, my parents got divorced and that's why I'm scared to death of getting married.
So yeah, I'm screwed up.
That's like a real thing.
hannah claire brimelow
Is this a conversation you had with your wife when you guys were getting married?
Like, divorce, are we gonna get divorced?
Like, how did you approach that?
I have to defer to the married person.
adam johnson
So, we had actually already been divorced, both of us.
So, I'm actually on my second marriage.
We've been together now for 14 years.
And when we met each other, we both got married very young, and we didn't really know how to have relationships.
When we did meet, it was very much like, look, I'm not looking to get married.
I'm looking just to meet someone, say hi.
We didn't even hold hands because we were just friends, right?
When we talk about divorce, we talk about what makes it work, what makes it last.
if we have an argument disagreement it always starts with this is this the thing that's going
to make you leave me because if not be nice don't call me names let's talk this through
and it seems to help quite a bit but we divorce is never on the table ever we made a commitment
to each other and that's what we're going to do did your first wife reach out after you
alex stein
went viral for stealing that lectern What have you become, Adam?
unidentified
No!
hannah claire brimelow
That's cool.
alex stein
You are a very nice guy.
There's nothing bad to say.
adam johnson
I will say this that she was reached out to by multiple sources and
alex stein
No!
adam johnson
She was and she didn't say anything.
No one said anything bad about me because maybe I'm just a nice guy.
alex stein
That's cool.
You are a very nice guy.
There's nothing bad to say.
I'm not kissing your ass but I mean you're a really nice guy.
I mean so.
tim pool
This is a fact check.
On the way here he changed a tire for a little old lady who got a flat tire.
alex stein
No, you did not!
tim pool
I'm kidding, dude.
alex stein
I was about to say, oh my God.
adam johnson
I did cut her off, though.
unidentified
She was going very slow.
tim pool
Well, let's talk about J6.
We have this story here from Julie Kelly.
This is huge.
The Supreme Court has just ruled that the obstruction charge is no good.
This means the Department of Justice has unlawfully prosecuted 350 plus Americans for their participation
in January 6th, a flagrant abuse of the law to punish those who protested Biden's election
and criminalized political dissent.
Now you know a lot about this, my good friend Lectern Guy.
And this was the felony charge they were trying to get to put everyone in prison for decades
because a lot of people got misdemeanor charges.
This one was the felony.
And now what happens?
I mean, you're not a lawyer, but have you followed this?
adam johnson
I have.
So I think the way the 1512 read is that you would have to destroy documents, you know, ballot stamps that would actually stop the vote from going through, stop an actual proceeding.
That's not what happened.
A lot of these judges knew that, and they knew they didn't have standing to do this, but they did it anyway.
Did not care.
Where we are now is there are a lot of people who have already finished their sentences.
They're already done.
They've already spent three years.
Brandon Fellows is one of these people.
tim pool
With a felony?
adam johnson
Uh-huh.
Had the felony.
Did three years.
He's done.
Now he's on supervised release for now.
Just got out like 30 something days ago.
And where's, what are we going to do for him?
What can we do for him?
He's already served his entire time.
You can't sue the DOJ.
You can't sue these judges.
They have immunity.
There is no restoration for these people.
What about, what about Matthew Perna who took his life?
How do we help these people?
We can't.
The damage has been done.
Moving forward, what we see, the judge is already talking about, is stacking the misdemeanors and then adding more time that way instead.
So Eric Holder had a memo to the judges where he said, you know, we're going to take the worst charge and then the sentencing guidelines will be done on that.
And that's how things were going.
Now that they removed this, they're just going to find misdemeanors, stack them together so sentences are longer.
This is retribution.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam johnson
And they will continue to move forward.
They will find new things.
You can be creative.
unidentified
That's crazy.
hannah claire brimelow
This case is really interesting because it's over 300 people who are affected by this, including, I think it's like 250, including President Donald Trump, who are facing these charges.
Their legal battle is ongoing.
And I think you're right.
There are people, I mean, I don't know if they could Sue for wrongful imprisonment or whatever else, but there are very few paths forward, especially if you've already had to pay the price of defending yourself.
I mean, the burden of legal fees in America is crazy.
I did find this ruling really interesting for a number of reasons.
One of them was that Khadijah I'm trying to get him!
unidentified
If you hit me in the face with that on the live podcast.
hannah claire brimelow
I was making a really good point, that fly is here to thwart me.
Okay, well Tim hunts the fly.
tim pool
I have an electric fly swatter.
hannah claire brimelow
Katonji Brown-Jackson, who is typically considered a liberal justice, joined with Roberts and four other conservative justices to join the majority position and say, like, this is not how this is supposed to be interpreted.
You can't make it a broad interpretation of this phrase.
You have to make it narrow.
Otherwise, this is incorrect.
And I found that really fascinating.
At Amy Cullen Barrett, who people were all like, oh, Another Trump appointee conservative.
She's the one who joined with Kagan and Sotomayor.
So it is interesting that the Supreme Court gets a lot of flack for being ideologically split.
And that's one of the big fears that if Trump is elected, he'll appoint more conservatives.
But actually, a lot of the court is really trying to interpret these issues in a way that I think would be good for America.
alex stein
Yeah, but forgive the Supreme Court.
I mean, I guess they did a couple good things recently, but also they said that, you know, the government can tell social media companies what to say.
Sort of.
hannah claire brimelow
You didn't say they said it doesn't have standing.
tim pool
Yeah, and there's still a couple cases that are pending.
adam johnson
So I think ACB has young kids and we have seen protests outside of Supreme Court Justice Holmes.
And I think she probably is afraid.
I think it is very, very simple.
She has a family.
She is afraid.
When it comes to Kintanji, I think she sees it as the implications and the precedent you're setting by having this charge brought and then prosecute people.
Imagine when their side protests again and we're in a position of power.
Are we allowed to use it in the same way?
They're setting a precedent that can be used against them as well.
alex stein
Yeah, but it's been totally weaponized.
They tried to burn the federal courthouse in Portland 19 days in a row.
And I think that person got, literally got probation.
adam johnson
That's because, that's because we didn't, we were in charge and that's not how we roll.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex stein
But like supervisors of the FBI or CIA, they're the ones that are gonna be like, Oh, you know, do this.
And they're talking to district attorneys.
So it only takes like a few high power people to basically weaponize the department of justice against people.
So until we get out the deep state or whatever it is, They can always let the criminals go for George Floyd riots, and then get all the white people for January 6th.
So, I don't know how we fix that.
adam johnson
Would you have seen the people from BLM prosecuted the same way that J6ers were prosecuted?
Because I wouldn't.
tim pool
Well, right now actually there's a handful of Antifa, Andy Ngo's been covering this.
They're going to prison, but it is not as insane as the J6ers.
Like, it's surprising to see they're actually giving a couple years to these guys for their violent riots.
But you got people who walked in a building facing 20 years until this- And Adam, you said they reconvened and got the certification.
alex stein
They certified the election within three hours.
So how could they charge them with a felony obstruction when they didn't obstruct anything?
adam johnson
I mean, I guess they- How can they charge someone with theft for moving furniture 20 yards and not taking anything?
alex stein
And that was your- They charged you with theft?
Yeah.
adam johnson
Felony theft.
Felony theft.
It was $100,000 worth of attorney fees we had to pay out of pocket.
We couldn't collect a single dime.
That came out of our pocket.
hannah claire brimelow
And if we hadn't had those attorneys, I mean, there are people, Brandon Strock is one of them, he said, you know, I took a plea deal because I just couldn't, I didn't think I had any other options.
I think there are so many people who, in these positions, are being hit with these crazy charges and they are just saying, like, I have to play ball with the government because my, I don't have the resources to fight this.
adam johnson
Every plea deal is signed, it is coercion.
From a J6er that takes a plea deal, it is coercion.
It's not a plea deal, you are being coerced, you signed this under duress.
That is how plea deals work out of the federal government.
You get charged by the feds, take the deal, because they will give you a trial tax.
You will end up serving so much more time, and we've seen that.
You go to court in DC as a J6-er, you say, no I didn't do that, you will get extra charges, you will spend more time in prison.
alex stein
Yeah, it makes me sick.
My buddy Luke Coffey, he's in that same situation right now, and they charge him with assaulting a police officer because he had a crutch, and he basically touched their crutch to their riot shields.
And, I mean, his life could hopefully not.
I pray to God that it's not.
I love Luke.
Never been arrested before.
No criminal history.
And he's looking at, I mean, 10 to 20 years in prison for being there, and like I said, he didn't even hit anybody.
I don't know.
It's very challenging.
That's my, I guess, one critique.
I love Donald Trump.
I'm going to vote for Trump.
I'm riding not with Biden.
I'm riding with Donald Trump.
But I would like to hear him say that he's going to do more for J6.
I know he has mentioned it.
It's not like he hasn't mentioned it, but I just I would like to see him do more because I just hate to see people that I personally know lives are ruined.
And I think Trump maybe can pardon him once he gets in.
But I'd like to hear him say that.
hannah claire brimelow
He had said at that town hall that CNN hosted that he would You know, he wants to review all the cases and pardon as many people as possible.
I mean, I think we all agree there are probably some people who, like, technically could get a misdemeanor trespassing charge or whatever, but I would love to see Trump announce, like, tomorrow, here are the people who are going to be on my, like, J6 case review panel and hit the ground running the day he's inaugurated, right?
Because I am worried that it will be two years in, we finally return, and I just don't think we can leave people who are in jail for January 6th stuff suspended for that long.
tim pool
But why a review panel?
hannah claire brimelow
Well, that's what he said he wanted to do.
He wanted to review every single case.
unidentified
I reject it.
hannah claire brimelow
I think that's fair.
tim pool
No, I know.
He should just say, blanket pardon.
alex stein
Well, and not to throw shade at you, Adam, but if they did charge you, like, a misdemeanor or something, and you had to do a little finer thing, I think that would have been fair, right?
unidentified
Absolutely.
alex stein
Yeah, I mean, and then we wouldn't be in this process.
tim pool
I disagree.
No, my wife and I- I do disagree.
unidentified
Really?
alex stein
You don't even think you should have got, like, a trespassing, maybe, or whatever?
unidentified
No!
tim pool
Slap on the wrist, metaphorically.
Okay, let me ask you, when you showed up there, were there barricades saying, do not enter?
adam johnson
No.
tim pool
What, like, no trespassing signs?
adam johnson
No.
tim pool
You just walked up the stairs and walked through the building?
adam johnson
Yep.
Doors were open, walked right through them.
tim pool
You can't charge someone.
I've been through this, and this is what really pisses me off.
Jen Ugar yelled at me, because I said, you cannot charge someone for trespassing unless they've been warned they are trespassing.
And that's why there's private property all over the place with big old signs saying no trespassing.
And it's why we had to do it.
Because if someone can access your property, even if it's private property, let's say it's 1,000 acres, and at the center of 1,000 acres is your house, they can legally walk onto your property because you did not warn them first.
So I don't think you should have got anything.
They should have asked you what happened.
You should have said, I walked in and said, okay, sir, have a nice day.
hannah claire brimelow
I agree with you.
I mean, I think this is one of the interesting things, right?
Like, we know from the videos that Tucker released that the shaman was just, like, ushered in.
unidentified
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
But I think part of the power of what Trump is saying, like, I will review the cases, is to be able to, like, hold up a document and saying, like, this is exactly why I don't agree with this.
Here's what we're going.
Because if he did a blanket pardon and not saying that he shouldn't, I just know that the other side, which we will have to deal with eventually, would say, like, see corrupt dictator, let everyone out or whatever else.
We – I think people who believe in the innocence of the January 6th and we believe that there is corruption in the judicial – in the Department of Justice, that they are unfairly targeting these people, know that the evidence supports this, right?
We know there is video evidence that there was no barricades.
We know that Trump offered all kinds of support and it was rejected.
Like if you do a review and you can publish this like whatever thousand document, you can always refer back to it and say like, if you have a problem with the person I pardoned, go back and see why we made this decision.
tim pool
This is the issue I take with the left.
Not every single one, but Cenk Uygur, millions of followers, tens of thousands of subscribers, you know, I'm saying he's got subscribers and he's got paid members for his website.
I said, The people who smashed the windows and stormed their barricades down, yes, I get that.
Rioting is illegal.
You get charged for that.
But there were people who showed up to open green grass, sidewalk, walked up to a building where the doors were open and cops were taking selfies with people.
And they were like, howdy!
And they said, howdy!
And they walked on in.
The cops were smiling.
They walked through the velvet ropes, taking pictures, and then left.
And these people are going to jail.
I met a couple.
They got 18 months for exactly that.
And when I said you cannot charge people for trespassing if they don't know, Jenn Cougar goes on his show and starts ranting about, you have broken glass everywhere and you think stepping, you're walking through a window!
And I'm like, he's lying.
Because he knows the full context of what I said.
The people who smashed windows go to jail, and the people who walked in the other side of the building where there was no riot, where the doors were just open, had no idea, those people are free to go.
But they lie.
adam johnson
Is breaking a window really... Did they go to prison for that?
Federal prison for breaking a window?
That seems a little excessive.
tim pool
Well, I'm not even saying someone who broke a window should get federal prison.
I was talking about the Proud Boys.
Should they, who have smashed a window and climbed in and we're laughing about it, go to jail?
Get arrested and get charged?
Yeah, I don't know.
Was it two months?
Or a fine?
adam johnson
They should be sentenced in the way that other people who have historically done this have been sentenced.
That is justice.
That's all I'm asking for.
I'm not saying that everyone should get a blanket pardon.
I've never said that never will.
If you genuinely hit a cop, struck an officer, you should be sentenced in a way that if you did it to anyone else in any other state, that sentence would work out.
It should be that.
That's justice.
That is fair.
tim pool
I agree.
We got one more major story, ladies and gentlemen.
This one's a bit more esoteric.
It's my word of the week.
Supreme Court strikes down Chevron, curtailing power of federal agencies.
Why this matters?
When they tried implementing a vaccine mandate at the federal level for all companies with at least, what was it, 100 employees?
It was under this precedent set by the Supreme Court, I think in 1984, that federal agencies can interpret the law as they choose.
The ATF has used it to create bans on things like they tried banning the pistol braces, saying, you know what?
We believe this is the case.
And we argued this on the show.
You can't just decide a law is.
But that was the precedent.
Supreme Court said no.
Now it's going to be back to the courts.
They say, by a vote of six to three, the justices overruled the landmark decision Chevron v. Natural Resources Defense Council, which gave rise to the doctrine known as the Chevron Doctrine.
Under that doctrine, if Congress had not directly addressed the question at the center of the dispute, a court was required to uphold the agency's interpretation of the statute, as long as it was reasonable.
But in a 35-page ruling, Chief Justice John Roberts said it was fundamentally misguided.
Eleanor Kagan dissented in an opinion joined by Justices Sonia Sotomayor, Katonji Brown-Jackson.
Notice it's always the evil justices, the left ones, who are trying to... In what reality is it constitutional to accept that a bureaucratic agency can make law?
The ATF said, we hereby decree pistol braces illegal, and if you own them, you will go to prison.
So you know what we had to do when they passed this rule?
I said, okay, I talked to my lawyer, and he says, take the braces off and remove them.
Separate them from the domicile in which they are stored, and then you are allowed to have them, just not attach the weapon.
So I have to make these changes based on the federal government bureaucracy decreeing that is not how this country is supposed to operate.
Surprise, surprise, the liberal justices are evil.
But there you go.
There you go.
They say, although the Chevron decision upheld Reagan-era EPA interpretation of the Clean Air Act, blah blah blah, was generally hailed by conservatives at the time, the ruling eventually became a target of those seeking to curtail the administrative state.
And so here we are.
This may be, ladies and gentlemen, one of the biggest changes to happen in government, one of the biggest victories for those that believe in freedom and oppose big government, the idea that the agencies now cannot act of their own whim.
Did you get it?
alex stein
No.
Dang it.
I'm too slow with the pillow.
Sorry.
tim pool
But now it's your turn to talk, so.
alex stein
We're talking about the three-letter agencies.
Fly, F-L-Y, should die.
No.
I don't know.
The Kentagi Brown Jackson doesn't even know what a woman is.
She's not a biologist.
tim pool
So basically this means if the ATF wants to ban something, they can't just do it.
They can't issue an executive rule where they're like, you know, you can't have short-barreled rifles.
So we think pistol braces are.
unidentified
Nope.
tim pool
Now they're going to have to be like, we can't do that.
Congress has to act and the courts have to decide.
adam johnson
The next is to repeal the NFA completely.
All gun lulls are fake and gay.
tim pool
Well, I think, um, I'm hoping that Hunter Biden can actually get a lot of this overturned.
unidentified
If Hunter Biden.
tim pool
I got him!
alex stein
You got it!
tim pool
I got him!
alex stein
I saw it zap.
adam johnson
Somewhere Mike Pence is flying.
Did you hear that?
tim pool
Did you hear the snap?
alex stein
Yeah.
unidentified
I saw it.
tim pool
Anyway, what were we talking about?
I got the fly.
hannah claire brimelow
Hunter Biden is going to save gun laws in America.
tim pool
Yeah, someone explain that.
I'm going to check on the fly.
hannah claire brimelow
Okay, I will, but any two-way person in the audience knows I'm going to fumble this, but I support you guys.
I hope you're doing well.
So Hunter Biden was convicted of falsely filling out this federal form because it said, are you addicted to drugs?
And he said, no, not currently, even though he had just gotten out of rehab and was about to go I don't buy crack cocaine, but I digress.
But the argument is that the form is unconstitutional.
It violates Second Amendment rights, which I actually sympathize with enormously.
And it's this weird dynamic now where Hunter Biden has been convicted of something, but actually a lot of conservatives feel as though the crime on which he was convicted is actually unconstitutional.
And so hypothetically, he is now—his appeal on this case, which So this thing's got a button on it?
all over the Supreme Court and challenge this law that he has been convicted on, would be
backed by two-way people, but have Hunter Biden as the poster child as he turns around
and says, get away from me, I'm a Democrat.
It's fascinating.
tim pool
So this thing's got a button on it, and when you press it, there's metal on the outside
protecting you, but on the inside, so the fly was still alive when I went down there.
alex stein
Oh wow.
tim pool
It was trying to get up.
And so I just, you press the button, and I whacked it, and you could see the spark.
And now it's done.
There was an additional... I saved the show.
adam johnson
There was an additional Supreme Court case for 2A rights where, again, you know, heroes, unsung heroes, right?
Hunter Biden shouldn't be posted where everybody is.
Another case was there was a guy, domestic abuse, red flag, they took his guns.
But you can't do that.
That's not been passed.
So that's also a case they were hearing and that might get overturned as well.
Hit a girl, they can't come take your guns.
hannah claire brimelow
Well it was that, so he had, the case, at least when I read this one, because it was a man in Texas and he had, hypothetically, I don't, I'm afraid to speak on it too much because I don't know what the convictions have been like, but he had been, you know, allegedly beaten his girlfriend up in a parking lot and then threatened her with a gun afterwards saying, you know, I'll attack you if anyone, if you tell anyone, and he hadn't been convicted of anything but there had been a domestic violence Restraining order issued.
And so the question was like, if you have a DV restraining order, should you be allowed to have a gun?
And Clarence Thomas was the lone dissent there.
And he said, look, if he hasn't been convicted, we can't do anything, right?
It's different if you have been convicted of a violent crime versus if you are just hypothetically accused of something.
And I actually thought that was interesting, because obviously the instinct is to be like, dude, if you beat up your girlfriend, you're a terrible person and you're a threat.
But if you haven't been convicted, you are presumed innocent until proven guilty.
adam johnson
Yeah, they took all of my guns.
They didn't even have a violent charge.
All of them.
Did you get them back?
Oh, yes.
It took me quite a while.
Now I buy a new gun every month.
alex stein
Wow.
hannah claire brimelow
Grocery bill and gun bill must be nice.
alex stein
Yeah, I know.
You've got a gun for every kid.
hannah claire brimelow
Grocers and guns, that's it.
alex stein
Well, listen, the Second Amendment should be protected.
These red flag laws.
Ipatch McCain loves red flag laws.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
But Joe Biden even says our guns are pointless because they can shoot us with F-16s.
I don't know.
tim pool
I love when he says stuff like that, because it's the stupidest thing imaginable.
adam johnson
Are we on F35s now?
alex stein
Was it F35?
I don't even know.
adam johnson
He's mentioning 16s, but those were like three decades ago.
We're on 35s now.
tim pool
But I just like to, whenever they bring it up, I'm just like, you know, Afghanistan called, Joe.
Yeah, it's a bunch of goat herders in caves.
It is ground forces that win wars.
You can clear the battlefield, you can gain control, you can take out infrastructure with powerful siege weapons, but you need human beings to do the groundwork.
Biden has no idea what he's talking about.
It's the stupidest talking point ever.
alex stein
What about all those videos in Russian Ukraine of them using drones to kill each other?
Do you think that's the future of warfare?
tim pool
That will not secure... So, sending in, it is, and I warned the gover... I literally warned the government 13 years ago, 12 years ago, when I was part of the North American Drone Coalition or whatever.
We were doing some of the earliest drone work.
with these consumer-grade drones that we were hacking to broadcast video. And I got asked by
the US government and universities who were trying to figure out how consumer-grade drones are going
to affect everything. So we were trying to figure out what do we do? How
How do we handle this?
How should they operate?
What are the rules?
And the first thing I told them was, I think you guys need to consider what happens when someone with a range of three miles launches one of these things into a city.
There's no way to stop it.
And if it's carrying something, let's just say dangerous, like how do you deal with that?
And they were just like, we don't know.
And I'm like, I gotta be honest, you can't.
Once that thing is launched and it's in the city, whatever they put on it, it's there.
Even if you knock this thing down, if you blast it with microwaves, if you fire a net at it, if you launch confetti, if you get a tracking drone to chase after it, whatever it brought is there.
So yes, however, let's say you got a nuclear power plant.
And you want to secure that ain't no drones gonna secure it for you.
You need human beings.
Now drones make it easy to deal with human beings.
But humans, humans are going to create, I think it's I think actually combating drone warfare will be not too difficult.
scrambling, hacking, frying, you can easily get.
I mean, blinding these things, they don't fly well at night.
It's very difficult.
So I think there's ways to counter it.
But if you want to secure a nuclear power plant, you're gonna need some humans to go and go in the building and gain access to it.
And that's all that matters.
Your drone's not gonna be able to do it.
alex stein
What about AI taking people's jobs?
What's a bigger threat, drone bombs or artificial intelligence ruining the world, Tim?
tim pool
I think AI is the apocalypse.
alex stein
You think it's like a demonic supercomputer, basically?
tim pool
I don't know about that, I just think that what's going to happen is, you know, we were talking about OnlyFans earlier, and how these women are basically removing themselves from a productive economy, and they're producing nothing.
Guys are then spending money.
Like, there's a certain amount of food in the economy, a certain amount of money, money is used to buy the food, it's a representation of the value of the labor, but it now represents debt instead.
And then money is created upon issuance of debt, so we're in this wacky system.
This is why we have weird inflation.
They set it up a long time ago.
It doesn't really make a lot of sense.
But I can tell you this, at the very least.
You cannot exist in a system... This is a lesson for AOC as well, when she calls for deficit spending.
If the output is greater than the input, your system collapses.
Thank you and have a nice day.
So, the issue with AI, much like OnlyFans, is that you are going to have people...
One of the first things I see happening is someone's going to create an AI that will give you whatever you want for money.
And what's the value?
What are you getting from it?
Nothing.
So let's start here.
AI can mass produce photos and videos.
The videos are getting incredible.
And we're a year away from clean, clear video.
Photos can already generate full text.
That was a big thing they were screwing up with last year.
Photographers For music, background music and stock music, gone.
I will never.
It's done.
It happened.
We used to, 10 years ago, I remember going to these audio libraries.
Epidemic Sound was a big one for YouTube.
You'd spend X amount of dollars per month for a subscription to music you could use in your videos.
Don't need it anymore.
For free, or for like 10 cents, I go to suno.com and I type in hip-hop electric beat, And, um, coffee commercial.
And then it gives me a song.
It's mine.
I can use it.
Nobody made it.
Whoever has the AI is going to get the money, but it's going to start... This process starts centralizing revenue into the hands of a single corporation or one company that can produce all media.
It's going to eliminate tons of jobs.
People are going to end up... We're three, four years away.
VR has gotten so great.
You are going to...
Open up your VR, you're gonna put your headset on.
You're gonna be in your... You have a bedroom in your house.
Maybe it's like 20 feet by 20 feet or whatever.
You draw the lines in your VR so you know where your walls are.
And then you say, uh, AI game, give me a game where I'm a sheriff in the Wild West and the bandits are coming.
And give me a good storyline with a great love interest.
The video game itself will render and you'll be in VR.
People are going to just disappear from the real world.
They're already making plugins where you can play Skyrim, where your companion is plugged into chat GPT, and you can talk to them while you're playing.
So it used to be that you had this stupid companion running around with you, and they'd be like, yes, my liege, and you'd be like, carry my stuff, and they would go, okay, and that's it.
And they'd have some, my family once came from the south, but then they moved to the north, and it's just nonsense.
Now, you can actually turn the game on, talk into the microphone and say, companion, come over here and tell me what the weather is like.
And they'll be like, I don't quite know the weather.
And you'll say, what do you want to do right now?
I don't know, what do you want to do?
They'll talk to you.
Because it's just, you're just talking to the AI.
This is going to replace people's human interaction.
All of these people who are going on OnlyFans, these guys, who are not getting married and having kids, Imagine what it's gonna be like for the OnlyFans models when they can't get jobs either because the guys are like, I got digital girlfriend.
We've already got the AI girlfriends, they're gonna plug themselves in, and they're gonna be like, this feels good.
Life is scary and hard, I can't do it.
In VR, everyone's my friend and they love me.
alex stein
What was that Joaquin Phoenix movie where he's married to his phone?
tim pool
Her?
alex stein
Yeah, her.
That's what it's gonna be like.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex stein
Where you're gonna have some artificial girlfriend.
tim pool
We're already there.
We pulled up the AI girlfriend stuff a couple weeks ago.
morgonn mcmichael
Match that with the Apple Vision Pro.
There you go.
tim pool
And the Apple Vision Pro is going to put her in your house.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
And you're going to put it on, and then she's going to be standing there, and she's going to be like, how was work, honey?
alex stein
Show me your boobs, honey.
tim pool
But for Alex, it's going to be like, it's going to be this anime waifu with cat ears.
alex stein
Yeah.
tim pool
And then, you know, that's because, and then he's going to be- Human-cat hybrid.
That's right.
adam johnson
And a big old booty.
alex stein
The thing is- Big Latin, big boobs.
tim pool
Speak Spanish.
morgonn mcmichael
Has to be Latin.
adam johnson
Tim, genuine question about the video game AI.
Genuine question.
Do you think you will be forced to have at least one trans character in the game?
unidentified
No.
adam johnson
You can just edit that out.
You can just... It doesn't sound bad.
tim pool
All the woke stuff's gone.
All the woke stuff is gone.
Like, dude, already going on to mid-journey and typing in you know, generate me a photo of this. Now you've got the
video stuff popping up and it's getting better and better. You can ask it for anything. Like,
artists are gone. All of this digital media job stuff is going to be gone because anyone can generate
whatever they want. There's going to be a ton of people. Look, I'm telling you what we're already
seeing.
What we're already seeing is video games became a... A lot of people got addicted to it.
Hikikomori.
You guys familiar with that?
The Japanese... It's a Jap... It refers to Japanese men who lock themselves in their bedrooms.
We call them NEETs.
Not an education, employment, or training.
Employment, education, or training.
NEET.
It's guys who live in their bedroom, live in their parents' basement, play video games all day, and do nothing.
They are... Some of... Many of them incels, perhaps.
They don't know how to meet people.
They're anti-social.
What's gonna happen when you give someone a VR headset with, first, AI-generated video?
That's the first that's gonna be crazy.
Because people are gonna be like, I'll try it out.
They'll put it on and say...
Show me a virtual forest, it's sunset, a thunderstorm is rolling in, and there's a treehouse.
We go into the treehouse, we hang out, and then I watch a movie.
Rendered.
People are gonna be—dude, think about what it's gonna be like.
When you put the headset on and you say, uh, render me a video of I'm in a log cabin with big, one side is all glass, it's snowing, there's a fireplace, I'm sitting on my couch, and then, uh, put a TV on the wall playing Die Hard.
And it does.
hannah claire brimelow
How much of this do you think is going to become people trying to relive moments they've had in the past?
unidentified
Oh, dude.
A lot.
hannah claire brimelow
And just being disappointed because it's never that, right?
Like, you were describing someone who's operating with a certain level of imagination, but I think a lot of people are just going to be searching for something that they loved, that they experienced, and it's gone forever.
tim pool
It's going to be a dad and his son is, you know, he's in his 50s, his kid's late 20s, gets in a car accident and dies.
And then he's going to put on the headset and be like, He's gonna be like, GPT, compile social media user, Johnny631981, and Facebook, and then it's gonna render it, and then his son's gonna appear in front of him and go, hey dad, what's going on?
And he's gonna be crying, being like, son, I can't believe, and he's gonna every day go in there and try and never let go.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm gonna feel bad for the dad who's trying to get his OnlyFans daughter back.
Her whole social media history is like this persona she built online and he never, he goes into this like virtual world trying to connect with someone who is, you know, not who they presented themselves to be on social media.
tim pool
There's a movie, I think it's called The Nines.
Let me check.
Is it like Nines or something with Ryan Reynolds?
I watched a long time ago. What is it called? It's called The Nines. I recommend you guys watch that one.
I'm gonna spoil it for you because it's from 2007, so sorry.
Uh, spoiler alert.
So, Ryan Reynolds, basically, the gist of the movie they tell you in the end
is that all life is ranked from one through nine, and humans on earth are sevens.
And then there are entities that exist beyond them, eight and nine.
Ryan Reynolds plays a nine, two degrees higher.
I think it's humans are sevens.
I haven't seen this movie since that seven.
But basically, there's a... Megan McCarthy, I think, is in it.
I could be wrong.
And they're friends.
And there's this nasty woman always trying to tell her to stop hanging out with Ryan Reynolds.
It turns out Ryan Reynolds And this other woman are nines, higher plane of existence.
They live in this reality.
He suffered a devastating loss, so he created this lesser reality of Earth to live in to drown away his sorrows and his fears.
It's essentially what we're talking about right now.
People are going to abandon the real world because of pain and because of pleasure.
And it's like, dude, I'm just telling you, man, I have fun playing Fallout, but it gets boring, right?
Imagine if you could have a new Fallout video game every day if you wanted to.
You could just go to the AI and say, that was fun, but make it so that I'm in Fallout, but it's also...
I don't know, put giant grizzly bears riding tanks.
You just do whatever you want.
adam johnson
But it's not real.
At the end of the day, it's never real.
tim pool
But kids are going to be born into this machine and they're not going to know anything else.
And for a lot of young men, they're going to be like, I tried meeting a woman and I got yelled at and called a creep.
They're going to go into their room, they're going to lock the door and they say, make me a girlfriend.
And then it's going to generate it.
And they're going to be like, this is easy and it feels good.
morgonn mcmichael
Because they're escaping the reality that exists today.
I mean, I was watching this movie, it's called Don't Worry Darling, and this husband and wife are plugged in on their bed with like these things in their eyeballs and they're able to live this alternate reality.
They're in like this horrible apartment in like New York or something with like rats crawling everywhere, but then plugged in they're able to live this life of having money and Being able to explore.
It's like a horror movie.
But I think it just depicts how real it can be, especially with the Apple Vision Pro.
Put that with Neuralink and kids are going to be hooked on the dopamine.
I mean, they already are doom scrolling every single day for multiple hours.
Make that the new reality where you can choose what you want your life to be.
I mean, it's live off government funding and you can stay in your house.
plugged in all day in the pod, exactly, and just continue to consume more and more media.
I think it's honestly going to be closer in our future than we think, and AI's already taking a multitude of jobs.
No one's gonna need to have a job anymore.
tim pool
If Neuralink read-write capabilities becomes a real thing, you will eat the bugs and you'll be happy.
You know why?
You go to the restaurant with your friends, with your Neuralink plugged in, and you're gonna say, uh, we'll take the number one, because there's only one, two, and three.
That's the only items on the menu.
And then, what are you gonna see?
She's gonna walk out with this big, thick lasagna with sauce, just Parmesan cheese.
It's gonna put down in front of you, and you're gonna be like, oh man, my favorite!
You're going to cut into it.
It's going to be the most delicious lasagna you have ever had.
And then the guy outside who refused to integrate with Neuralink is watching you eat a big bowl of cricket mash.
And you're going, nom, nom, nom, nom.
adam johnson
You're explaining they live.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex stein
Well, I don't know if you have to leave for that, but what's worse, you have the, and you just described the plot to the Matrix when Spider plugs back into the Matrix.
tim pool
And he's eating the steak.
alex stein
He's eating the steak.
But what's worse, AI addicted daughter or fentanyl addicted son?
tim pool
Oh, that's a good one.
alex stein
What's worse for agriculture?
tim pool
Well, fentanyl.
It kills you.
AI, you can be removed from and deprogrammed.
alex stein
Well, I mean, theoretically, you could be like a functioning alcoholic.
There's probably functioning fentanyl users.
hannah claire brimelow
I think with fentanyl, though, like the dosage isn't secure, right?
Like alcoholics on some level know how much, whereas like with fentanyl, you really don't know how strong it is and any amount.
It can be fatal in a very, very small amount.
I think it's a really good question, though, because I think ultimately what you're also asking is, We believe that we will be an addicted culture.
And what vice are we choosing to go with?
And it makes me think what we said before, like the physical connection.
I think the AI addicted daughter is ultimately numbing herself in some way, the same way the fentanyl addicted son is.
And that's what we have to sort of fight against.
The idea that we would avoid our problems rather than confront them.
adam johnson
This is a lot of blackmailing, but I will tell you right now, I'm a positive guy.
Always try to stay positive.
I'm not going to let that happen in my family.
And I think that what we need to do is start having conversations of how can we stop that from happening?
What productive, positive things can we do in our community around us, with our friends, our family?
How do we change this?
Because I'm all for slowing it down and maybe even taking a step back.
tim pool
I pitched a show treatment.
I talked to the Daily Wire guys about it.
We talked about it on this show like a year ago.
Man, it's like a year and a half ago.
The general idea for the show is It's some point in the future.
There's only one city left on Earth, with a size of about 10 million people.
All the other cities everywhere in the world, it's like ruin, decay, it's like the apocalypse, right?
Overgrown trees, vines, animals taken over, everything's just gone.
But there's this one city left.
Nobody knows exactly how civilization collapsed, but they are rebuilding.
And their technology is a little bit like ours, slightly more advanced.
One day, a scout battalion from the last city goes out and they're, you know, searching the ruins of other cities.
They come across these tall, slender, humanoid beings with chrome helmets and white suits.
And when they engage, the beings raise a hand and then boom, an energy blast just vaporizes one of the guys and they open fire, the bolts do nothing, they run, they scream.
The feed is then sent back to the main city and they're like, are these things aliens?
Interdimensional beings?
Are they what wiped out all of humanity?
And then it turns out...
Long story short, twist, The Last City is a collection of humans who never integrated into Neuralink.
And the reason why cities have collapsed is not because the world ended.
It's because one by one people migrated underground into the pods to network into the machine.
And over time, the economy became dominated by digital interface work.
There's no reason to live in the real world anymore.
Food is mass-produced in biolabs where they clone it and make it from raw materials.
alex stein
What about humans?
Do you clone humans?
That's how they procreate?
tim pool
They're all basically inside the pods, and when they meet in the pod universe, it takes their genetic material and makes the baby and puts it in a pod.
And then the humans in The Last City are basically rural folk who never integrated, who weren't networked in, and the reason why they have no idea what happened, it's not because, like, the Earth ended.
The people who live in the pod have the full chain of human events in human history.
It's because if right now you took Thomas Jefferson and transported him to the year 2024 right now, he'd have a hard time figuring out what happened in that debate.
Why?
All of the commentary is online, and because he does not use a technology nor understand what internet is or a smartphone, he's looking for a periodical of some sort somewhere, and he can only find a little bit of information about it.
So in The Last City, they're like, the world just seems to have ended.
But for humanity, they're like, no, we got rid of the internet, we started doing all of our news articles in Neuralink, in Neurospace.
So it's like, we can look up the archive of news from 2077, you know, it's just in neurospace and you guys were outside of it.
And then the beings they find are actually just, every 70 or so years, maintenance crews have to come up from the pods to manage and maintain corrosion and things like that and then go back down.
And this leads to the conflict.
alex stein
Is this an animated series you pitch?
tim pool
Oh, I just pitched the general story idea.
I was like, I don't know.
alex stein
No, I mean, it sounds pretty interesting.
hannah claire brimelow
Look, you just have to wait them out while they clean up and then go back down?
Like, I'd still rather be the farmer who's not in the neural link.
adam johnson
Do you think they will tolerate people like us?
I guess that is the question.
tim pool
That's why I said they just vaporize the guy with like...
Their technology is more advanced.
These things are just...
The last city is basically a bunch of savages with bows and arrows as far as they're concerned.
adam johnson
I guess the premise question I have is, will we be able to exist the way we want to?
Let's say if you want to get a Neuralink, you want to live that life, go ahead.
At some point, like now, it is impossible to do anything without this.
tim pool
Exactly.
You have no choice.
adam johnson
You have no choice but to have this.
Is there going to be a moment where you don't have a choice?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
And that's how I came up with the idea.
The idea being, one by one, people are like, you show up for a job interview, You're on a Zoom call and they're like, or you apply online and they're like, okay, well, this job's only available for, you know, our interview process is over Neuralink.
And you're like, well, I don't have that.
So no interview for you.
You walk into a store and most of the sales are online distribution.
They don't really do in-person sales anymore, but they still have some remnants and you say, I'm wondering if I could apply for a job."
And they're like, yeah, yeah.
Well, we are looking for someone.
Simple job.
It's a warehouse storage, if you're interested.
Pays $79 an hour, because, you know, in the future, by inflation.
And then the guy goes, yeah, absolutely.
And they go, okay, just what's your Neuro username?
And he goes, oh, I have a cell phone.
We can't hire you.
How am I supposed to get in touch with you?
It's like you can call me on my phone.
Call you on your phone?
Oh, come on, man.
Imagine if right now you walked into a place, applied for a job, and they said, what's your phone number?
And you went, I don't have one.
They'd be like, okay, well, what?
Should I send you a letter?
But back in the day, there were no phones.
That's how things were done.
hannah claire brimelow
There are a lot of corporate companies where you have to be able to have access to the internet to see your schedule, right?
Because it goes out through an app or through a website or wherever else.
That's not how things operated in a pre-internet era.
But I also wonder if there will be people who would just sort of be like, okay, I'm opting out.
There are people who don't have phones.
Exactly, to build the city you're talking about.
People are like, well, I'm just going to go this way now.
adam johnson
Yep, I'm gonna start a cult and buy some land.
We're gonna be the Lector Knights.
tim pool
We gotta go to Super Chat, so smash that like button, subscribe to this channel.
One like equals one Biden's brain is broken.
Right there, I got it.
hannah claire brimelow
He's contagious apparently.
alex stein
That is a tongue twister.
tim pool
Biden's brain is broken.
We could make a better one than that.
Become a member at TimCast.com to support our work.
It's gonna be a wild election season.
We're super excited.
Shout out to everybody on RumbleX as well, watching live.
Here we go!
For Zuperchat, Tim Jake says, Shout out to my parents, Gene and Bonnie.
Tomorrow we will celebrate their 67th wedding anniversary.
Love you, mom and dad.
alex stein
Congratulations.
hannah claire brimelow
I love messages like this.
Also, I wonder what age they got married, right?
I know we didn't talk about it, but Thomas Massey, his wife just passed away.
adam johnson
35 years.
hannah claire brimelow
35 years because they got together in high school, right?
Like, if I want to be with someone for 35 years, I'm going to be past retirement.
Anyways, so get married as soon as possible.
So at least you know they're the one.
tim pool
Condolences to Congressman Massey.
I can't believe when I saw it.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm sorry to hear.
tim pool
I'm feeling pretty good.
I mean, the Chevron decision, all these SCOTUS rulings.
with the easy win last night and the SCOTUS ruling today, we must stay vigilant as we
are not through November.
We still have to win the election.
I'm I'm feeling pretty good.
I mean, the Chevron decision that all these SCOTUS rules, they didn't rule on immunity
yet, right?
hannah claire brimelow
No, they haven't.
tim pool
That means it's an extended term.
I mean, it was supposed to have wrapped up.
Geez, wow.
hannah claire brimelow
The thing is, I love this message because that was one of the things, when you were showing that chart and Biden's so low, I'm like, oh my gosh, all the conservatives are about to get complacent.
They're about to not go to the polls.
morgonn mcmichael
They have to.
They have to go to the polls.
tim pool
All right.
This person has no username.
They said, number of blinks Joe Biden had during the entire 90 minute debate, 34.
People were pointing, I saw that people were saying he's not blinking.
alex stein
Yeah.
morgonn mcmichael
They said he wasn't blinking.
tim pool
He wasn't blinking, I can tell you that.
alex stein
He's probably so much Botox, maybe.
Maybe he can't blink.
No, seriously, I don't know.
hannah claire brimelow
No, there were moments when he was, like, thinking of something he'd rapidly blink.
Like, maybe he just stores them all up.
tim pool
I say federales as I was expecting a ton of YouTube bands in desperation major white pill
seeing you all here for the news mainly because the fight that you put up thank you all throttle
to the floor get them well look CNN lied to everybody.
They said, we're not offering digital streams, except for our embeddable YouTube player.
And then guess what?
All the major networks had a live stream on their own YouTube channels.
Or I don't know about all, but many of them did.
So it's like, okay, that was not true.
You were lying.
So everyone ended up doing it.
Uncle Gug says, and all that remains, let you, oh, is there another tweet there that I'm missing or something?
He just says, all that remains, let you go.
It is the new song.
Shout out to Phil.
hannah claire brimelow
Yes, I'm very proud to be part of that band.
All that remains... I'm just kidding.
Phil's working really hard.
He goes on tour pretty soon, so we have to enjoy his time on the show.
alex stein
I know.
He's been working his mouth a lot on that device for his breathing a lot.
Have you noticed that?
tim pool
His, like, weird bubble thing?
alex stein
Yeah, because he said he's about to go on tour.
I just saw his post.
Yeah.
Very professional.
tim pool
Tim Brackett says Tim Cass is number one.
We did have, I think, the biggest YouTube live commentary show last night.
Shout out, however, to Crowder, who had probably the biggest commentary show in general.
He had like 300k or more across the board.
hannah claire brimelow
Amazing.
tim pool
Huge show.
He's too funny.
I can't compete with him.
When I was on his show recently, he's just too funny.
hannah claire brimelow
It's all such a white pill for independent media.
Oh yeah.
I just love that.
tim pool
I'm like, why can't I be funny like Steven?
I'm so serious.
Damn, he's good.
He made some jokes.
I can't remember what he said, but it was just like, man, it was good.
hannah claire brimelow
Alex, are people born funny or serious, or is this something you can learn?
alex stein
I don't know.
I mean, some people say that I'm kind of like the Wish version of Steven Crowder.
tim pool
Wish version?
alex stein
Wish.
tim pool
Great value.
alex stein
Let's say you're buying regular Cheez-Its and then you buy the Great Value Cheez-Its.
The Great Value Cheez-Its are like a dollar less, so I'm still pretty valuable in that sense, right?
If I'm just a little bit less.
hannah claire brimelow
You're helping people save money, too.
alex stein
Yeah, so I'm good.
tim pool
Well, the reality is usually Great Value is the same product.
alex stein
Oh yeah.
morgonn mcmichael
Packaged differently.
alex stein
But you know, that's actually not necessarily true because there are ingredients that they leave out and they make shortcuts so that it is a little bit cheaper.
So the name brand is always usually better.
There is a slight difference, I swear.
Even if it's made by the same manufacturer, they'll just change the ingredients.
There always usually is.
tim pool
It could be, like, second pressings.
You ever get a pair of second press shoes?
alex stein
Well, like, Costco will use, like, the same exact vodka as some companies, but a lot of times, the Great Value brand, there is a difference.
tim pool
When you're getting shirts made, the first run of shirts, it's always really nice, and then the second run, it's slightly off, and the third run, it gets worse.
And so, did you guys ever buy a pack of irregular shirts?
You ever see these?
adam johnson
No, I'm not poor.
tim pool
Right, when you're poor and you're growing up and you can't go to Target or Walmart to buy the $20 pack of shirts, you'd go to these, we would go to like the Mexican neighborhoods in the south side of Chicago and you'd walk in and they have a big bin and it's like $3 and it's like a label says irregular print and it's When these shirt companies would make the shirts, eventually there'd be errors.
They don't throw them away.
They just sell them for less.
And then what you do is you open it up and like, this one's sleeve's short, this one's neck is cut, and you gotta like rip it open.
Shirt's a shirt, man.
You know, if you don't got a shirt, what are you gonna do?
alex stein
Well, it's like Hannah Clare said, like when the Dallas Cowboys are in the Super Bowl and they lose, they still print Dallas Cowboys Super Bowl t-shirts.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex stein
They have to go give them to Nigeria or whatever.
tim pool
It is funny how, like, remember when ISIS was driving that guy's truck and it said, like, you know, Dan's plumbing or whatever on it?
I can't remember what it said.
But a video came out where it's like ISIS and they're driving some Michigan carpenter's truck.
And they're like, how did that happen?
And he's like, I sold that.
I have no idea.
adam johnson
Weird.
tim pool
All right.
What do we got?
Let's grab some superchats.
Logan Thorson says, the plan for after Trump wins 2024 election should be to convince Alito, Thomas, and Roberts to retire so he can get more Trump-appointed SCOTUS justices, and all at like 35 years old.
adam johnson
That's blasphemy.
You don't ever besmirch Thomas.
I want him there forever.
tim pool
Well, yes.
hannah claire brimelow
People who work hard for the country deserve to retire at some point, right?
tim pool
Does he have kids?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, he does.
tim pool
Are they good?
hannah claire brimelow
Are they based?
I haven't met them personally, but it seems like they're a pretty happy family.
I know he likes to take his RV out.
tim pool
How about Alito, Thomas, and Roberts.
You say Roberts, whatever.
Maybe Coney Barrett.
Well, she's a little young.
You get them to retire, and then we just appoint all of Thomas' kids.
hannah claire brimelow
This is the thing.
This is the actual new rallying cry for a lot of progressives right now, which is, like, keep – no matter what, we have to have Joe Biden.
If he's the one we can't get off the ticket, if it has to be him, that's fine because we cannot sacrifice the appointments.
You'll see this ramp up going forward.
morgonn mcmichael
That's what they want.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
And again, like, it's not guaranteed that Justice will retire.
It's just, like, I think Clarence Thomas is in his 80s at this point.
You know, I do think that we should have a culture that allows for people to retire, bring other – bring new people in to keep the fight going.
tim pool
All right.
Let's see what we got here.
hannah claire brimelow
I think we had Josie the Redhead Libertarian on time.
I think it was like, if you could pick a new Speaker of the House or something, who would it be?
And she said Ron Paul, which Ron Paul is amazing.
He's great.
But also, like, he has worked hard.
Perhaps he deserves to spend time with his family.
tim pool
How old is he?
80-something?
hannah claire brimelow
He is definitely in his 80s.
tim pool
Yeah, no, I would not recommend Ron Paul.
We love and respect Dr. Paul for his great career.
Yeah, Rant Ball maybe?
adam johnson
I'll take Rant.
I'll take Massey.
tim pool
But he's in the Senate, so... Yeah, Massey.
morgonn mcmichael
I do think it's a little crazy that our government seems to have, like, no end date.
It's like, you can just be in the government till you die.
I think that's a problem.
tim pool
You can be in some positions completely incapacitated, and they're just, like, Supreme Court justices.
hannah claire brimelow
Or like the President.
Peter Ginsburg, how are you?
tim pool
Or our President, that's right.
morgonn mcmichael
Current President.
unidentified
Well, alright.
tim pool
Leon Artem says keep fighting the good fight Emperor ever since before the crew your consistency is shining a mostly
impartial light on the world It's been very impactful on culture in the US in the world.
Everybody's now visibly starting to resist the absolutes calling
Well, all right. That's a Baldur's Gate reference, but yes
Jackson Hill says did you stream the debate live?
I couldn't find your stream.
I suppose that Biden's performance last night was a cheap fake.
We did stream it live on multiple platforms, and we had 142,311 peak concurrence on YouTube alone.
adam johnson
Thanks.
tim pool
And yeah, collectively with Rumble.
Rumble was pretty big, and Axis was massive.
We had 800,000 viewers on Rumble, but they don't count concurrence.
I'm sorry, on Axis.
Axis doesn't count concurrence the same way.
hannah claire brimelow
What happened to the Biden had a cold narrative that was starting to bubble?
unidentified
It's still there.
morgonn mcmichael
Which I saw an NBC article, I think it was NBC, that came out during the debate that was like, oh, Biden has a cold.
adam johnson
Yeah, every time I get a cold, I struggle to draw a clock.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Breadbox says, Vosch concedes the debate was a disaster for Biden and prepping his listeners for Trump 2024 victory.
Destiny is acting like this may possibly blow over and everyone will forget about it, saying, we just need to drag his body across the finish line.
alex stein
That's what Destiny said?
tim pool
That's what they said back in 2020.
Remember?
Remember the Atlantic wrote, stay alive, Joe Biden.
We just need your corporeal form.
Yeah.
Amazing.
morgonn mcmichael
Corporeal form.
hannah claire brimelow
They love and respect him deeply.
tim pool
Democrats are going to pass a law saying it's bodiest to require a body to be president.
As long as your immortal soul is capable, it'll be allowed.
And then they're going to argue, but Christians, you believe in immortal souls!
And then they're going to have a Ouija board and they'll be like, Biden says we nuke Russia.
morgonn mcmichael
They're gonna have him hooked up to a ventilator.
tim pool
Yeah.
morgonn mcmichael
And roll him in on a gurney.
tim pool
Blinked twice for Nuke Russia.
That was two!
Well, one eye, each count.
You know.
Let's go.
ThatOneGamer says my car insurance went up by $300.
Paid $150 before.
unidentified
Wow.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, car insurance is one of the things that I think, when we're talking about this, you know, it's not just the car, it's also the maintenance, the gas and the insurance.
It's, you know, and if you live anywhere that you need a car to get around.
I mean, I grew up in a rural area.
If you wanted to have a first job, you either need to, if you didn't live close enough to walk to wherever it was, you either were dependent on your parents or a sibling or you just couldn't get a first job.
Can you imagine if you just couldn't earn your first paycheck?
Be crazy.
tim pool
Gandalf the Beast says, speaking for jobs, I have a bachelor's degree working on my master's and years of experience.
I've had to turn down jobs because they didn't pay enough for me to scrape by.
These were 60k jobs, FJB.
Nope.
morgonn mcmichael
Kids are also graduating college without internships or even any low-level experience, so they're unexperienced and then they try and get a job and they can't make a living.
hannah claire brimelow
It's like the system's not working.
tim pool
Yeah.
Sean says, is it possible the cost of insurance in cars has to do with illegals buying used cars and driving uninsured?
I'd like to see the hit and run stats since Biden has taken office and opened the borders.
That's a good point.
The hit and run stats.
alex stein
Yeah, no, I've had my car rented twice by Hispanic people that didn't have insurance.
tim pool
Allison and I were driving in Inwood, West Virginia, last week, and some dude Sped full speed right between cars and we had to slam our brakes on and it was, it was the weirdest thing.
Like I've never, I've never experienced that before.
So just, I wonder, you know?
alex stein
Well, it's a lot easier.
Like if you're an illegal immigrant and you commit any crime in America and you get deported, you're not worried about the repercussions from the crime.
So it's totally different.
That's why you can drive crazy, do crime.
I mean.
adam johnson
You can just come back too.
So yeah.
morgonn mcmichael
Sneak back into the border.
tim pool
All right, MF Damien says, the OF, OnlyFans Influencer Ambition debacle is born of our culture.
Broadly speaking, valuing notoriety and clout far above excellence and self-reliance.
Sad.
adam johnson
Pride.
tim pool
So, I think it's important to shame OnlyFans hookers.
I think it's important to call them hookers.
I think any woman who runs a sexual, sex-oriented OnlyFans should be shamed.
And they got real mad at me when I called them hookers, but that's what they're doing.
They're digital hookers.
You're hookers.
And the reason is, They are ashamed of it.
That's why they get really angry, saying, how dare you call me a hooker?
Not that there's anything wrong with being a hooker, but how dare you call me that?
Because they're clearly ashamed of it, and they should be.
We want to discourage this behavior because it's an attack on our society that destroys it.
What the left wants to do is they want to turn it into a positive to get more people to do it, and largely because it will destroy society.
adam johnson
I think they prefer the term sex workers.
morgonn mcmichael
Their body, their choice, Tim.
tim pool
Oh, they can do whatever they want.
They're hookers, though.
I didn't say hookers couldn't hook.
I just said, you're a hooker.
And they got mad.
adam johnson
I blame Julia Roberts and Pretty Woman.
That's where it started.
hannah claire brimelow
This is where it started.
morgonn mcmichael
Lack of morality in our country.
It's what's created the depravity.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Ray L says, I believe the Bidens have major dirt on prominent Dems, maybe the Epstein files.
If Biden is forced out, he'll take out a lot of Dems with him and give Republicans a landslide.
No, there's this video that we didn't get to.
Did you see this one of Biden crying on stage?
hannah claire brimelow
No.
tim pool
You didn't see this viral video of Biden crying on stage?
Where is it?
Here is it?
hannah claire brimelow
There have been so much.
tim pool
From when?
Oh, here it is.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You didn't see this one?
There's no audio on this.
hannah claire brimelow
He's not supposed to be able to speak.
tim pool
Look at his face.
unidentified
And even though he has faced unimaginable tragedies, his optimism is undaunted.
His strength is unshakable.
His hope is undeterred.
tim pool
He looks like he's crying, and I saw that with Jill screaming.
His energy's not there.
I'm wondering if it's the other way around.
The reason they put his son in jail—Hunter Biden was convicted—is because they're like, you will do as you are told, Joe.
You will march when we say march, or else.
I wonder if Joe's behind the scenes being like, I'm so tired, and they're like, shut your mouth.
You chose this.
morgonn mcmichael
I honestly think you're right.
alex stein
No, it is.
It's like Happy Gilmore where the guy, you know, they're in the retirement home and Ben Stiller was really mean to him.
Keep crocheting!
adam johnson
Your fingers hurt.
Well, now your back's gonna hurt.
morgonn mcmichael
I genuinely feel bad for Joe Biden.
Like, I could only imagine, like, my grandfather being, like, forced into a position like this and not being able to just, like, live at a retirement home, play bingo and dominoes with his buddies and, like, smoke a cigarette on the back porch.
Biden I feel like just deserves to go be on a beach or something.
And like even Trump said last night at the debate, he's like, I would much rather be at one of my properties living my life than running for president.
But our country is so horrible.
And this is the worst president we've ever seen.
And I like I feel bad for the guy.
Jill is clearly behind it.
And I think one of the main puppet masters.
hannah claire brimelow
She wants to have more White House weddings.
What can we say?
tim pool
Yeah, they do.
Ladies and gentlemen, this has been a wild and historic week.
Thank you all so much for watching.
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Morgan, you want to shout anything out?
morgonn mcmichael
Yeah, thank you for having me.
If you want to follow me, if you can spell my name, you can find me.
It's M-O-R-G-O-N-N.
And also you can check out all of my content on Turning Point USA as well.
adam johnson
Oh, I'm on Twitter at lecturnleader.
Lots of fun, lots of jokes.
A shout out to the Thunderdome.
alex stein
And your name's Morgan, but I always pronounce it Morgon.
morgonn mcmichael
I know!
I talked about this with Mary on PCC today.
Everyone calls me Morgon.
It's my nickname.
alex stein
Yeah, I was saying, because I was like, we're on a show with Morgon.
Well, I'm Primetime99, pimp on a blimp.
Make sure to go to cashbrew.com, get some two-time grind, primetime stein.
Two-time grind coffee.
I think I said that twice because it is two times the grind, two times the caffeine.
It'll make you feel right.
And, guys, go support the Pip on a Blimp.
Go to YouTube and follow the Primetime with Alex Stein channel.
We're doing crazy things.
It's insane for the Ukraine.
And, you know, you're going to miss it if you don't tap in.
tim pool
We've got to film the commercial with you and Ian because we have the... Impeding, yes.
unidentified
Yeah, because you know the vote... Yes, a grepping dream, yes.
alex stein
We need to do that.
We need to do a competition.
And I will smash Ian and squash him like a little bug that he is.
hannah claire brimelow
Coffee Wars are coming, it's crazy.
tim pool
So we haven't formally launched it, but if you buy Primetime Grind 2x Caffeine and use promo code VoteAlex, you get another bag of any kind for half off.
And if you buy Ian and use promo code VoteIan, you get another bag half off.
And again, we haven't formally launched, but you are outselling, VoteAlex is outselling.
alex stein
Oh, chat rats in the house!
unidentified
I love it, thank you guys.
hannah claire brimelow
This has been a really great Friday debrief.
I'm so glad that you guys could all join us here.
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
I'm a writer for scnr.com.
That's Scanner News.
Follow Scanner News at TimCastNews on Twitter and Instagram.
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And I'm on Twitter at HannahClaireB.
Thanks for everything you guys do.
Thanks for watching along with the debate last night.
Bye, Serge!
unidentified
See ya.
tim pool
We'll be back.
We got clips throughout the weekend and then we're back on Monday.
Thanks for hanging out.
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