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Biden THREATENS TikToker During White House Party Over Israel w/Jim Antle | Timcast IRL

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Joe Biden snapped at this tick tocker and threatened to throw his phone because he got
		asked about Israel.
		It was a very touchy subject for the man who is ailing and whose brain doesn't work.
		And there's an update.
		I guess G7 leaders are actually really concerned.
		It's the worst Biden's ever been after he wandered off.
		And now there's a fact check that's popped up.
		This is funny.
		Libs of TikTok posted this.
		And then Instagram said, fact check, Joe Biden wasn't actually wandering off from the ceremony.
		He was greeting someone else.
		And it's like, dude, we can see him wandering away from the ceremony.
		Even if it was to greet someone else, he's lost his train of thought.
		So we'll jump on that one.
		FiveThirtyEight has flipped!
		They were projecting a Biden victory and now they're projecting a Donald Trump victory based on their simulations.
		And then of course, a real fun story, the FAA is investigating counterfeit titanium in airplanes.
		So if you weren't already scared to fly, I think they're desperately trying to make you scared to fly because they want you to live in the pod, eat the bugs, and they want to get rid of cow farts.
		So we'll talk about all of that, but before we get started, head over to castbrew.com and pick up your Ian's Graphene Dream or Alex Stein's Primetime Grind.
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		Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Jim Antle.
unidentified		Good to be here, Tim.
		I'm editor and writer at the Washington Examiner.
		I've been at the District of Criminals for a long time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You want to pull the mic a little bit closer?
unidentified		Surely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you can get it right up in there.
		Can you hear me?
		And Jeremy's back from this morning.
unidentified		That's right.
		I made it through the gauntlet.
		I had to eat the other two guests, but I have made it through.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He actually did it pretty quick.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		so we're good regret he he earned the seat Ian is here.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You digested them quickly.
		Well done.
		And yes, hello everyone.
		I'm back.
		Good to see you, Ian Crossland.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Hello, everybody.
		My name's Phil Labonte.
		I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
		I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
		How you doing, Serge?
unidentified		Yo, I'm good.
unidentified		Let's get started.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, real quick, too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I guess we were just really excited for Modern Horizons.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I want to talk about Magic.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We were just going hard for about 20 minutes.
unidentified		I attempted to ruin the show by telling them a new Magic set came out 30 seconds before.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I knew.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I've been looking at the set, but I didn't know it came out today.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And PhilPlays, that's kind of what got me.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He posted to Ronnie Radke's post, you responded with a Morphling, and I was like, oh, it's getting hot in here.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Morphling, Tolarian Academy was the best.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I know.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's such a good band.
		And we have that.
		It's a band, though, isn't it?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Tolarian Academy, we probably have it in the band.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We do.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Unfortunately, because you and Criggler wouldn't play Blue against me.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Full disclosure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Those are actually on the band list.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's broken, dude.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		If it's band, I get it.
		It's a powerful... The Tolarian Academy I'm talking about, it's a...
		He knows what that is.
		It was the crux of so many of my decks from the moment it came out, because I'm obsessed with artifacts and blue, yeah.
unidentified		I think listeners want to hear you explain how Magic to the Gathering is played.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to this first story!
		As an aside, did you know that The Gathering was supposed to be only the first set, and they were actually going to call it Magic Colon Arabian Nights when the expansion came out?
		All right, here's the real news for people who are constantly going like, I have no idea what they're talking about, nor do I care.
		From the Daily Mail, what triggered Joe Biden to lose his temper at TikTok star and threaten to throw his phone at a White House party as the president scrambles to earn love from influencers?
		How about we just get rid of that what and write Israel?
		As a member of the press, my name is Jonathan Katz.
		I actually live in Charlottesville.
		Oh, do you really?
unidentified		So let's—oh man, that's—what is this?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is too much text.
		Okay, I'm not—I normally like to change the headlines by inspecting, but I don't
		know what they're going on with their inspection.
		So this is the gist of it.
		Here's the video.
unidentified		As a member of the press, my name is Jonathan Katz.
		I actually live in Charlottesville.
		Oh, do you really?
		Yes.
		And I'm wondering why—so you made a statement the other day about the student protesters
		on college campuses in which you basically remarked that they were anti-Semitic protests.
		And I'm wondering if you still stand by that statement, and also why you just signed a bill giving $26 billion more to Israel in the midst of what is plausibly considered a genocide by the ICJ.
		The answer is twofold.
		Number one.
		Israel's security from a rager is essential.
		It's essential.
		That's fundamentally different than how Israel acts in Gaza.
		I've been, as you probably know, putting extreme pressure on Israelis to back off and open up humanitarian access.
		Open up humanitarian access.
		You basically proposed your own Gaza flotilla.
		And we're going to be on that.
		And I'm pushing hard.
		And if they're not going to volunteer to do it, we're going to close it.
		But can't you use the power?
		I want to show you a picture of you with my husband's father, Bill Bader.
		No, you're kidding me!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can barely hear the guy muttering.
		So apparently in the next portion, he says, I'm going to throw your phone.
		We just pull the quote because I don't want to listen to this guy mutter.
		So here's the video of it.
		Here's him holding his phone.
		Do they not have it?
		Is this it right here?
		Why are they wasting our time with his watch to the end?
		He had a chance.
		That's the same video.
		So there you go.
		Biden grew angry at Katz, suggesting he would throw his phone before aides intervened.
		The New York Times reported Friday that Biden and Democrat allies are working furiously to build an army of social media supporters who will create pro-Biden content for social media.
		The reason why it won't happen is that the users of TikTok who are in the appropriate age bracket despise Israel, and so all that's going to happen is they're going to bring in these woke progressives and be like, hey, hey, look, Biden!
		Promote him!
		And they go, you're a genocide, Joe.
unidentified		Yeah, I mean, they're even having that problem with their White House staffing.
		And that's, you know, a much more thoroughly conventional group of people that you're drawing from, than what you're going to need to have like a successful social media campaign.
		And, you know, the demographic that they're going to be hiring from is just not going to want to make this kind of pro-Biden content.
		I don't even know what the content would look like.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		What do you see the future for the Democrats that are, you know, on the Hill now that are looking for staffers, that are looking for young people to actually do this stuff?
		I mean, you're aware of the, what is it, the White Staffers Twitter page and stuff?
		You know about that.
		So it's like, if that—can you bring up the— About a fist length from your mouth.
		What do you make of that kind of stuff being in the government?
		I know that most people don't understand that this kind of attitude Is something that's actually permeated the federal government now.
		So this is a real, real problem that we have to deal with.
		What do you think of that?
unidentified		I mean, it's a huge generational change in the Democratic Party.
		And it, you know, both parties have to deal with generational change.
		But I think when you're the more progressive of the two political parties, you've always got these people who are going to devour the previous generation of the revolution.
		You're always sort of being chased further and further leftward.
		It's a real challenge in terms of staffing and you know the the staffers in a lot of these offices
		really do drive how the members think about lots of things and I think that's particularly true
		in the house where you have lots of members who aren't very experienced,
		who haven't thought very deeply about issues before.
		But it's true to some degree in the Senate, where you have people who are very old, you have the opposite problem.
		There are people who have been there forever, think the Internet is a series of tubes.
		So if you're going to, you know, do anything to Internet, this Internet thing, it might be around for a while, guys.
		It might be a real permanent thing.
		So we need to find some young folk to do that.
		Huge problem for the Democratic Party.
		And, you know, I think this is a particular issue where The Democrats can't really...
		You know, in health care and other stuff where you've had young activists have certain views, the Democrats at least know how to speak that language.
		And it's still a familiar language.
		It's been a familiar language to them since the New Deal.
		But the Israel stuff is a real rapid change.
		And I think the members are really trying to chase the staffers at this point because they think that's, you know, they believe that children are the future.
		Teach them well and lead the way.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think Democrats are pulling a blockbuster.
		Blockbuster video.
		Right?
		They had the internet early on.
		It really helped their campaigns.
		But now they're too heavily focused on corporate press narratives.
		And what happens then is by ignoring the development of social media, the algorithms that were on these platforms, and what these activists were up to, they have basically allowed the emergence of Staunch anti-Israel sentiment, which coincides with all the woke policies.
		It's the oppressed versus oppressor.
		And now they've lost.
		They have gone the path of blockbuster and ignoring the advancements that were happening around them, resting too much on, hey look, We got the older vote.
		The older vote matters more.
		We're going to win that vote.
		They're watching MSNBC and CNN.
		And now these young people are entering their... You got Gen Z and millennials now, younger millennials, and they're all active on these social platforms.
		And the overwhelming majority of younger Democrats hate Israel.
		Biden's screwed.
		This is why you're seeing him actively now speak in favor of Gaza and Palestine, opposing Israel, whereas You still have this issue where most Americans are probably between they like Israel or they're Israel neutral and the left is staunch anti-Israel.
		The Democrats aren't going to be able to win a majority playing both sides.
unidentified		Well, and even before Gaza, Biden had a lot of problems with younger Democrats.
unidentified		I mean, there was a poll even before the midterm elections that showed that 94% of Democrats… You think they were aware of it?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You think they were aware of it, though?
unidentified		I don't know how aware of it there was, but the New York Times had a poll that 94% of Democrats under the age of 30 wanted a different nominee in 2024.
		I doubt that the numbers have gotten any better.
		If anything, they're probably roughly the same or worse.
		So young people, even when they didn't have an ideological reason to not like Biden, other than that he was old and not like them, now they have an ideological reason.
		This has given them an ideological reason.
		And so they're going to have to – that's why they have the big focus on student loans, student loan forgiveness.
		They have to find some hook to get these people to show up and vote for Democrats and for Biden.
		Not sure how much it's going to work.
		Do you think that this is mostly good for the Republican Party, like bringing in more of the sort of, you know, more crazy leftists?
		I was actually gonna say bringing the billionaire Jews into the Republican Party.
		Pushing them out away from the left is sort of my impression, but I don't know.
		I'm not that deep.
		You know, it's obviously anything that's bad for your political opponents is probably good for you, right, to some degree.
		But there have been some polls, like New York is not a state that's really in play, but there have been some polls that show Trump doing very well with Jewish voters in New York, you know.
		Michigan, obviously, is a state that Biden is very worried about because of Muslim and Arab American voters in that state.
		You know, I do think that, at least in the immediate term, some of the Democrats' divisions on this issue do play to the Republicans' benefit.
		But obviously, you know, if one party gets crazier, Then it isn't always necessarily good for the country.
		Right.
		But you've got like, what was her name?
		Claudine Gay got fired at Harvard, and that was largely because I think Bill Ackman and probably some other people who weren't as public about it sort of orchestrated that.
		Your donor.
		Yeah, sort of this donor class.
		And so, you know, there are obviously trade-offs to having those people in your coalition, but, you know, they're certainly more up for play, it appears, you know, than they were in the past.
		And there's not a big countervailing force that there was in the Democratic Party in the Republican Party against that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Going back to the first story that brought this up, you know, Biden saying he's going to throw the guy's phone.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Just shifting the conversation, I think this is indicative of dementia.
unidentified		He couldn't throw a phone.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He couldn't throw a phone.
		That's a lie.
		But bursts of anger?
unidentified		That is.
unidentified		Can he raise his arm fully above his heart?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think so.
unidentified		I doubt it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The highest he goes is Cornholio.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And Cornholio hands is another sign of dementia.
		They say bouts of anger are a result of frustration.
		Loss of temper is a sign of dementia.
		Imagine this.
		I'm sure everyone's had an experience where the word's on the tip of your tongue and you just can't remember it.
		It's frustrating.
		You're like, oh, what's that word?
		Why can't I think of it?
		Now imagine that's your day every five times an hour.
		You're struggling to remember things and you're like, I can't remember what I was just doing.
		You say the wrong country.
		You're getting frustrated with yourself.
		Then some dude walks up to you and says, I want an answer on an extremely complicated and difficult political subject.
		Right now, I'm recording you.
		The rage is not because he's demented.
		The dementia limits his capacity.
		He can't think about how to respond.
		He knows he can't remember.
		He knows he can't give a good answer.
		And he's just been put in a position where he cannot lift this heavy object.
		So he snaps.
unidentified		Well, it actually makes me want to vote for him a little bit, though.
		Because we're trying to tear down barriers.
		We're seeing new classes of people become president, and we haven't had an openly demented president yet.
		And, like, let's tear down that barrier.
		We didn't know.
		It wasn't as obvious.
		Now everyone knows.
		And now we can really say and prove that a mentally deficient man, a literal retarded
		man can become – can be present.
		They can be present too.
		And so that's a chance for people who want to show that that's possible.
		Trevor Burrus Biden had to end his first presidential campaign
		37 years ago because a guy came up to him, said things he didn't like, and Biden had
		to yell at the guy, number one, and number two, try to convince the guy he was much smarter
		than him by like inventing all of these academic credentials that he didn't have.
		And so even as a relatively young man, he was yelling at people to get off his lawn
		and it was sort of a political problem.
		Not going to get better with age.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That was in 1988 when he was running for president?
unidentified		He didn't make it all the way to 1988, so it was for the 88 cycle, and he's yelling at a voter in 1987 and, you know, they found out even the stuff he was yelling at the guy wasn't true.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And wasn't he found liable for plagiarism, and that's why he dropped out of the campaign in 88?
unidentified		He also had been giving some speeches that were actually speeches from the British labor leader, Neil Kinnock, you know, talking about being a young coal miner boy and all this kind of stuff.
		So even some of the tendencies that Biden has now have been sort of long-term tendencies,
		but they really just get worse if you're old and you're sort of slower and the jokes don't
		come as freely and the backslapping seems a little more awkward.
		But I mean some of this stuff is just sort of taking the Amtrak to all of these historic
		events that maybe didn't really happen.
		Biden has had a lot of these tendencies for his entire political career.
		Having him as an 80-something-year-old man as president, it's really kind of terrible.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		There's this guy, someone was mentioning, part of the reason why people can get demented in later life is because they have a lot of secrets and they're just constantly forcing themselves to shut their own thoughts down because they don't want to accidentally tell you their secrets.
		And so if Biden's got all these family corruption secrets of like what Hunter did, orders he issued to Hunter, to his brother, what is it, his brother Joe?
		James.
		James.
		And now he's like sun setting, you know, how convenient for him.
		Let's ask him what corruption.
		I don't remember.
		I can't recall.
		Like, Reagan apparently may have been going through some similar stuff in his late career.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		May have been?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, where he was like, oh, I don't remember, I can't remember, sorry, I'm just gonna retire.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That was a tactic in court, but he did have Alzheimer's and it's likely that it was starting when he was finishing up his, what's it called, but lying about what he knew and what he didn't know, that was just a court tactic.
		I don't buy that there was any like, I forgot, and he actually forgot.
		I think it was just him covering his butt, so.
		Plausible deniability is what it is.
unidentified		In The Sopranos when Uncle Junior, you know, beats his first trial by faking dementia, but ultimately by the end of the series he has dementia.
		Biden's down to 83% on the betting markets, 83 cents.
		So there's a, you know, the markets have him, have someone other than... But that's the Democratic Party.
		That's the, yeah, right, no, the presidential nominee.
		So the fact, I'm just saying that the perspective is higher than it's ever been that it might not be Biden.
		I mean, 17% is not that high still.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		To clarify, the betting markets are saying that the Democrats will nominate someone else.
unidentified		17% chance is what the betting markets are saying.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		That's a value bet right there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a value bet.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You put in five bucks, you win a hundred bucks.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They gotta run somebody else.
		What are they waiting for?
		Announce.
		Announce.
		Give yourself a chance.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's not 25 bucks.
unidentified		I mean, just taking him down, it's a complicated game.
unidentified		There's not one Clear way to do that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The superdelegates can pick whoever they want.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So it doesn't have to be the incumbent.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Republicans don't have superdelegates, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Just the Democrats?
unidentified		There are some uncommitted delegates on the Republican side, but the Democrats are the only ones that have all these elected officials, party bosses who get to be superdelegates and they're not bound to anybody.
		Rigged.
		The Wall Street Journal came out and said Biden's mentally deficient recently.
		So more and more of these... Oh, did they?
		I think it was the New York Times.
		The more institutions that are doing this, that's actually what has to happen.
		That's how it happens.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I just say that because, you know, we had Matt Gaetz on, and this was the night that they held Garland in contempt over the H.E.R.
		recording, which it's the investigation into Biden.
		And they're saying it's executive privilege.
		We can't release the recording despite the fact the transcripts come out.
		And the reason is because people think Biden's going to sound really bad, like his brain's failing.
		And, you know, Matt was just like, Really?
		Do we really need that recording?
		The man appeared to have crapped his pants on stage at D-Day.
		There's nothing on that tape that's gonna be worse than anything we've already seen from the man whose brain does not work.
		And I'm like...
		That's true.
unidentified		Well, you gotta hope they don't replace him if you want to see the Democrats lose, I think.
unidentified		I agree.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm pro-Biden.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I say, Biden all the way!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's one of those, like, at-what-costs-victory-loss things.
		Like, what's the opportunity cost of getting that guy into your party?
		Your party wins, but at what cost?
		You have a losing leader now, so you don't want to promote a loser, or someone that's incontinent.
		Or incapable.
		Or someone that's gonna, like, just misunderstand mental... Incontinence does come and go, you know.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's not a consistent... That's true.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And I'm just assuming he's incontinent.
		He might not be.
		He was just looking for a chair.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't- That's my guess.
		It makes no sense.
		The chair's right behind him.
unidentified		I know.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Everyone is standing- That's the dementia.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You didn't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's the issue with the whole D-Day thing, okay?
		Let's just stop and try and be rational, logical, and do some math.
		There's four people standing up.
		They are to be standing for the beginning of the ceremony.
		There are chairs right behind them.
		Joe Biden does a weird squat with a grimace, stretches upright a little bit, and then squats down again.
		The first thing I thought was, is he pooping?
		Like, this is like a weird thing to do.
		Instantly, excuses begin to emerge for what it may actually be.
		I've heard his posture was hurting him and he was trying to straighten his back.
		And I'm like, okay, I don't, I mean it's maybe.
		And the other was, there's an invisible chair he's trying to sit in.
		No, there's a visible chair right behind him that he did not actually sit in.
		So, if we're doing math to break down what we think may be the most reasonable, I don't know what is.
		What I can tell you is there's probably a double-digit probability he crapped his pants.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It could have been amalgam.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Like, he started to sit down looking for a chair, but then when there was no chair, he tensed up and tried to stand back up in one of those tensions where he was like, oops, I accidentally crapped myself.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's a chair right behind him.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But it was too far out of his view, like he can't turn more than 30 degrees.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, the chair that he eventually sat in is right behind him.
		That's why I'm like, I don't understand where that is not in the equation.
		The chair is right there.
		And some argued that when Jill Biden wipes her, scratches her face, she's actually going,
		Joe, don't sit down.
		Keep standing.
		Keep standing.
		And I'm like, that is making many assumptions.
		We are trying to make the least amount of assumptions in this.
		In which case, his back hurt is a maybe, but it's kind of a weird thing to do because your back hurts.
		That's probably a lower probability.
		Then there's 15 to 30 percent of men over the age of 80 suffer fecal incontinence.
		That's why they sell diapers.
		Biden has been accused on numerous occasions of having crapped his pants.
		There's been numerous reports that have flown around, rumors or otherwise, And so I think it's fair to say, I don't know, call it 10%, call it 20% probability that Biden actually crapped his pants.
		It's like the question people really want to know.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But he sat down afterwards.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I didn't watch the rest of the video, but he ended up sitting after that because he wouldn't have sat in poopy pants.
unidentified		And how long was that ceremony for him to have to sit there like that?
		Whose vote is, like, hinging on how tight Biden's butthole is?
		Like, is there—are there really votes?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It factors into my decisions.
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The number one issue among voters for the month of May was the failing—was Joe Biden's mental— Mental?
		No, not mental.
		I'm editorializing.
		It was failure in leadership.
		And which, broadly put, is Joe Biden is clearly incapable of doing this job, and Amazingly, April immigration was the single largest factor, according to Gallup.
		When May came around, the capabilities of the president became the number one issue among voters.
		And there's only one conversation there, right?
		The idea that it's, no, no, they're concerned about Trump now.
		I'm like, no, no, no, no.
		The big conversation everyone's having is Biden keeps having episodes.
		And I'll just pause here, too.
		Biden's back hurt.
		He was looking for a chair.
		He was straightening his back out.
		Not only have we had accusations that he's crapped his pants before, but he can't speak properly.
		There's been numerous occasions where he's wandered off in the wrong direction.
		In the past two weeks alone, I think we've had two or three videos of him going off the wrong direction on a stage, or the G7 wandering in the wrong direction.
		You add all those things in, The solution with the least amount of assumptions is, the bumbling old dotard crapped his pants.
		Again, I'm not saying I know for sure, I'm just saying, it is an absurdity to me to make an excuse when, and I'll put it this way, I ask ChatGPT, because we love ChatGPT, and I say, Did Joe Biden crap his pants?
		No, that's offensive and speculative.
		I then say, is it reasonable to conclude that Joe Biden, who's been rumored to have crapped his pants, who is over the age of 80, and that crapped his pants is a no, no, no, you can't assume that.
		I then removed Joe Biden from it and said, is it reasonable to assume that an 81-year-old man who's standing at a ceremony, who bends down a couple times, then grimaces and stands back up, crapped his pants?
		Yes, absolutely reasonable to assume that.
		When you add Joe Biden to it, everyone rushes to the defense of, no, no, this is not happening, this is not happening.
		But if you make it any old man, people say, yeah, probably.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I didn't hear the poop and I didn't see it coming out, so I can't make the assumption.
		I know this is a dark rabbit hole that we don't need.
		That assumption, I cannot.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Don't make assumptions.
		We do not from here operate under the under the guise of it is a definitive fact that he did do it.
		It's simply when we know the probabilities and percentages we can make better decisions moving forward.
		And what we have here is, and again to move on from the poop jokes, I get it's like a funny story, is we have a man who is clearly so physically incapable that voters have become nervous about it and it's become the top issue in the United Part of what I was going to bring up is like, do you think this is part people in the deep state that are like top level authorization at the deep state are kind of like, good.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Now people can see how useless a single man as your leader is.
		Now we'll take over by like, our oligarchy will take over because you can't rely on one guy.
		If the guy falls apart, you're screwed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They want the president to be like the king, a figurehead with no real power.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that's what they got in Joe Biden.
unidentified		And as long as he's only a point or two down, I'm not sure they will replace him.
		I think there are some Democrats that would like to do that.
		But if they think he can beat Trump...
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Not only that, but also one of the things going against him is, I feel like it's likely
		that the polls are going to do the same thing that they did in 2016 and again in 2020, where
		the polls didn't show that Donald Trump was doing anything.
		They looked really, really bad.
		He's got the best polls that he's had so far now, but today is the best polls that he's
		ever had.
		I don't think that they're going to make any change because I don't think they're going
		to believe any polls that say Donald Trump's going to win.
unidentified		The debate's now in front of the...
		They moved the debate up.
		Isn't there some sort of interaction in front of the DNC?
		Yeah, their first debate is on the 27th.
		I think that's what will be the test, essentially.
		And I think if there's any move to get rid of them, it'll be... So let's talk about this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There are many people speculating that Democrats are using the debate, the reason why they've decided, yes, we will have a debate with Donald Trump, is so that they can force Biden out.
		His performance will be so bad or something will happen that they'll have no choice.
		Because right now Biden's not backing out.
		He doesn't want to leave.
		Jill doesn't want to leave.
		And so they need a major moment in front of the nation to say Biden can't do this.
unidentified		Or he'll prove he can do it.
		I mean, I think it's genuine.
		I think it's OK to model some Democrats as like genuinely undecided who they care more that a Democrat wins than who is.
		Can Biden do it or not?
		I could imagine being genuinely uncertain about that and saying, well, I want to test him and let's see if he can do it.
		You know, if I imagine being a Democrat, which is hard to do, but you know, that's There's also just the question of if expectations are so low, can he just by not crapping his pants win the debate?
		It's like Trump is mean and Biden didn't crap his pants that night, therefore this was a big win.
		A State of the Union address was kind of received in that way.
		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I do think there's more comfort with Trump this time around than there was in the past.
		Biden, and the only reason they would not, in my opinion, is that they want him to lose
		or they expect him to lose in their plans or elsewhere.
unidentified		I do think there's more comfort with Trump this time around than there was in the past.
		I don't think that the reaction is the same, and I think Trump kind of, if anything, didn't
		do some of the things that people would have been worried about him doing.
		And so...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, Oren McIntyre had a great tweet.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He said, Lord, give me the Trump that leftists have crafted in their delusional mind.
unidentified		Please, please.
unidentified		That's what I want.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Trump's not doing any of that stuff.
		He's going to get in.
		It's going to be slightly above milquetoast in a lot of ways.
		We'll be satisfied with some of the stuff he does.
		It'll be better than anything else we could get from any of the other candidates.
		And a lot of people are going to be disappointed.
		I think our fingers are crossed for a good AG, a good Deputy Attorney General, a good cleaning out of the bureaucratic entrenchment.
		I think we're gonna get 10% of what we're hoping for and go, eh, well, you know?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		His strength is geopolitical negotiation, Trump's is, and I think he would easily soothe tensions with the Russians and the Chinese.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It sounds like he wants the Israelis to go stomp out Hamas, whatever that means, exactly.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So, like, that means maybe funding that war until the ideology no longer exists?
		I don't know.
		Like, Hamas is a political ideology.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Hamas is made of people, and you get those people and you It's like saying communism is not people.
		No, no, no.
		Hamas is an organization.
		There's an ideology that's anti-Zionism.
		That's one thing.
		But Hamas is made up of people.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But people come and go into that organization.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But it doesn't matter.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It does matter.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't matter because if you join Hamas, you are Hamas.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		If you don't join Hamas until in 20 days, then it mattered.
		And what you did could cause more people to join Hamas.
		Killing their fathers and their friends.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Listen, whatever your opinion is, I'm telling you how the Israelis are going to look at it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The Israelis look and they say, these people are members of Hamas, just like these people are members of the Mafia.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So what if they just say, I'm no longer a member of Hamas, we have a new organization with a different name that does the exact same thing.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Come out with your hands up!
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's it!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You were already a member of Hamas.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But you're saying it only matters if you identify with the group.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ian, where's ISIS?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Where?
		It's a concept.
		I mean, I don't know where they're based.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, ISIS is an organization.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		ISIS is a group.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but where are they?
		They were crushed.
		Maybe your neighbor's home.
		They might be in a cave somewhere.
		No, they're crushed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Their resources are gone.
		Their control structures are gone.
		Their fortifications have been wiped out.
		That's the same.
		They're gone.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The ideology.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		To be honest, everything I know about ISIS was told to me by the media.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea who they were, where they were.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Dude, you can read Dabiq.
		They have a whole, like, they had a whole, like, magazine they were putting out the entire time.
		There's this one, uh, there's, it's called Dabiq.
		There's this one issue they have, uh, that they have that, that is titled why, or there's an article they wrote that's called why we hate you and why we fight you.
		And they list off all the reasons why they hate the West.
		There is all this idea that Hamas and, and that there is no, no, uh, violent, uh, Fundamentalist ideology?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's wrong.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And not only is it wrong, they literally tell you.
		So what was going on in the early part of the teens was like, Barack Obama was like, oh, these people are just, actually, it's about economics and blah, blah, blah.
		It's like, no, they really effing believe it.
		You listen to Sam Harris, and not that I'm a big Sam Harris fan, but he goes through the article in The Beak talking about what they want.
		Essentially, they think of themselves as like Jedi.
		Like, they get to go and be holy warriors.
		They can slaughter people and feel good about it.
		Because God said, this is real.
		This isn't make-believe and it's not from the media.
		This is from them.
		This is from ISIS themselves.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		ISIS?
unidentified		ISIS, yeah.
		You can find their propaganda videos and they're like, they actually share some similarities with, like, U.S.
		Army recruitment videos.
		There's some really interesting propaganda pieces.
		They're decent production value.
		Come join the cause.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That was one of the things that Sam Harris was saying.
		It was a really, really bad thing because DeBake had such good copy editing.
		The copy editing was better than, I think, the New York Times.
		There was a typo in the New York Times talking about DeBake, but if you look at the actual article written in DeBake, there was no typos.
		That's a level of sophistication.
unidentified		Even the word uncensored was typed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That was my typo on the front page of the website.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Fair enough, yeah.
		But the point is, these are not backwards people that don't understand what they believe.
		They're fully aware of what they believe, and they actually believe it.
		The idea that, oh, it's just economics and blah blah blah, that's horseshit.
		That's liberals saying that they don't want to believe what the actual terrorists are telling them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is the Mujahideen still a fighting force anywhere, or did it become a generic term now?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think it's generic.
unidentified		I actually think a lot of them are sort of like the autism spectrum people of the Middle East.
		They take their beliefs really seriously.
		A lot of people don't.
		But a lot of terrorists, they are.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And this speaks to a problem on the left, which is the whole, you know, you can just cogs.
		That is factually wrong.
		You cannot do that.
		Individual people matter.
		The attributes and the traits that make you up, that make up Jeremy, that make up all of us, these things are important.
		And they can't be just replaced.
		Like, I can't just sit in Tim's seat and become Tim Poole.
		Tim Poole can monologue, but Tim has knowledge and ability that I don't have.
unidentified		Let's do that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's a really great example, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If everyone in this room were to get arrested right now, and then some other... Real possibility, too.
unidentified		Absolutely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then, uh, uh, the show gets off the air, and then a week later, a handful of people no one's ever heard of show up and begin talking.
		Will it be Tim Castellaro?
		No.
		Maybe it will succeed, probably it won't, because the audience coalesces around a certain format that we have, a certain production structure, the way we communicate with guests, the way we time segments, the way we post segments later on.
		It would be something totally different, funded in a totally different way.
		Likely would fail.
		Like, the majority of enterprises and organizations fail.
		Very few succeed.
		If Hamas is obliterated, and you know, we're not even talking, in a context of war, let's just say Israel decides to go in with plastic bullets and arrest each and every one, and then ships them off to a different prison all around the world.
		They have zero communication with each other.
		It has been dismantled without violence other than imprisonment.
		There is no reforming of that.
		Running an organization like Hamas requires personal connections for resources, and it requires strategic thinking and planning.
		Someone else might come around eventually, but to put it very simply, there are many organizations, there are many, I don't know, piracy groups, and countries that no longer exist and never will because they lost the war.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So I think that what Israel is really fighting against is terroristic threat, in whatever form it arrives.
		And right now it's in the formation of Hamas and their people.
		They've been terroristically threatening the Israelis, so they want to get rid of that.
		But there's ways to get rid of terroristic threats.
		And if you murder all of the people that are involved in the organizations, you may create more terroristic threat down the line because of all their children and cousins that you've pissed off.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I have a question for you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you think the likelihood that Ireland attacks and begins pulling a free Palestine-style attack on the UK is imminent?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Are the children of the Irish Republicans still angry?
		I mean, there was massacres from the British Empire, and what about the British and the French?
		Are we expecting any time soon the British and the French to go back to war?
		Because they were at war for hundreds of years.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No, not right now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But why not?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Because the liberal economic order took over all of it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That economic order was way, way, way after those conflicts had stopped.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I know, and that's why they don't go anymore.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		World War I, basically.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I gotta give a shout-out.
		I gotta give a shout out to Star Trek The Next Generation, because in the episode where Data asks Picard about terrorism, one of the examples he gives, and again, this is the early 90s, this is the late 80s, early 90s when the show was made.
		Data says there have been examples where terrorism has worked, such as the Mexican independence from Spain, or the Irish reunification of 2024.
		The funny thing about that is in the 90s, the writers were like, in their minds, the Troubles would have evolved into an actual unification of the Irish state.
		That was the prediction of the writers in the early 90s, that the Troubles would succeed.
		They didn't.
		What happened was, the EU came around, and the weirdest thing happened, Ireland and Northern Ireland just became an open border through the Schengen zone in the European Union.
		And now, there still is anger there.
		You know, when I was there several years ago in Belfast, there's like Gaelic writing on the wall.
		The peace wall is actually pretty weird.
		One side's Israel, one side's Palestine.
		No joke.
		But the likelihood, in my opinion...
		That we see Irish and British people reignite 800-year-old conflict because of the killing.
		People have long forgotten about it.
		They found prosperity.
		So the issue right now is If in Gaza, Hamas stopped firing rockets, things would slowly start to dramatically improve for them.
		I'm not saying Israel's right or wrong.
		I'm saying you choose war, the winner gets it.
		I will cite Ulysses S. Grant, who wrote an amazing letter after the Civil War.
		He said, and I'm paraphrasing, it is the right of anyone to challenge their government.
		If you lose, you will be ruled over by your betters, by those who have conquered you.
		If Gaza chooses war, They get war, and they can't win that war.
		The end result is going to be the desolation or just the destruction of what's left of Palestine.
unidentified		Yeah, I don't think this excuses some of the things that happens to people in Gaza, but I think a lot of people can underestimate the sort of quality or caliber of person and the attitudes that they have there.
		This is a population of people that are pretty morally backwards from our standards and also just kind of dumb and violent by our standards.
		Again, on average, you can probably find exceptions.
		But, you know, there's a reason you're not seeing, you know, a bunch of faces and people that represent Western values leading the cause for Gaza, because they mostly don't exist.
		Or they would be there as the faces and leaders.
		They want something that Americans, the vast majority of Americans, would not want.
		They're not good guys.
		That doesn't justify what's happening to them necessarily either.
		But the idea that Gaza is full of good people, I think, is just not a true claim.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I think it says something, too, that the majority of people in the United States who overwhelmingly are pro-Palestine, pro-Hamas, let's say pro-Hamas specifically, are not particularly smart.
unidentified		And then you have— Generally very anti-Western.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		They don't really have a logic to their systems or what they understand.
		Even the people on the right who are critical of Israel and are smart and knowledgeable about it, it's more of a, yeah, fine, whatever, we shouldn't be funding them.
		But the pro-Hamas faction are not very smart people.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Ian, people are tweeting.
		I tweeted about this earlier and someone linked the actual article.
		Later on, you can go ahead and read it.
		It's called Why We Bite You and Why We Hate You.
		It's by ISIS.
		Someone's tweeting at you, so when you check out your Twitter link, you can read the article.
		And they go through exactly all the stuff that you hear the conservatives say that a lot of people are like, oh, they don't really think that stuff.
		It's all there.
		We hate you because you're not Islamic.
		We hate you because you have corrupted, blah, blah, blah.
		We hate you for this.
		And if you go through it, I think there's one mention of Israel, but the majority of the anger is not about Israel.
		Israel is a convenient excuse for a lot of people in the Middle East, but it's not that that Israel is actually the driving factor.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's just about colonization, imperial colonization.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Colonization is a Western concept, right?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		People have colonized, which means you take people and take land and colonize them?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The idea of colonization.
		So colonization is an actual thing that has like theory behind it and stuff like that.
		So you'd have to read like Franz Fanon wrote a book called The Wretched of the Earth and that is talking about decolonization and the things that are required to decolonize.
		Colonization in the Middle East is not thought of in the same way that the West thinks of colonization.
		In the Middle East, they're extremely used to violence creating new countries.
		That is something that has been all of history, and the people in the Middle East have a significantly longer outlook on history than us in the West.
		So, the people in the Middle East don't think of it like colonization like Western colonization.
		They think of it as we are being encroached upon by your Western sensibilities.
		So, your LGBT stuff, your promiscuity, your... McDonald's?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Corporations?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No, no, not those things.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Shockingly?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No, those things don't matter to them.
		because it's just like they're like oh we can get you know burgers and stuff the things that matter to them are the things that make their daughters want to rip off the the hijab right the things that that make their daughters want to go and do be be promiscuous and and dance and blah blah blah and make make you make a tiktok shake in their butt those are the things because those are what corrupt The actual society, as opposed to just corporate stuff.
		The ideas that you have are extremely Western-centric.
		And fine, it's not that they're invalid, but your perspective is purely from the West, and it doesn't even acknowledge the perspective of the actual people in the Middle East.
		Not the power brokers, but the average person in the Middle East and what they believe and how their cultures formed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I had a friend when I was younger who was, uh, is Arabic.
		His parents were immigrants.
		I don't remember exactly where from, but men weren't allowed in his house.
		Only the head of the house, brothers.
		No stranger men were allowed in the house and the women had to stay in the house.
		They were very, very conservative.
		Muslim.
		Yep.
		Women wore hijab and all that stuff.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Eric Prince, who's the co-founder of Blackwater, you know, military mercenary group.
		He recently said that he thinks it's time that we start recolonizing.
		Do you guys think that he's far off?
		He says, like, some of these countries in Africa are so barbaric that they're just governed by just menace, that we should take them over militarily and reinstitute?
unidentified		It got the white man's burden.
unidentified		Sweet Mark Kipling.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Actually, I'm interested in your take on this.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Would you go ahead?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Israel being one of those places?
unidentified		We've certainly not proven very good at doing that in the places where we are.
		We've tried recently, and certainly if we tried to do that in Africa where we have less history and certainly a lot of domestic opposition to do that, I don't think it would work very well.
		But there is a degree to which that some of this isn't just about the ideas people have in their head, but what kind of territory that they control, and so you might not be able to eliminate Hamas-like sentiment, and you certainly won't be able to eliminate it as long as the Israel-Palestinian situation is what it is, but you can keep Hamas from necessarily governing Gaza.
		You can keep ISIS from having parts of Iraq and having parts of countries that they actually govern.
		Those are things you can militarily achieve.
		Changing people and changing the way they think and they believe, that's a very difficult thing to do, certainly not a military thing to do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There are two kinds of colonization that we should talk about.
		The first is what everyone assumes today, which would be militaristic conquest.
		The U.S.
		military and a group of people go and take control of the country and fight off the barbaric hordes that are ruling the land.
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The other form of colonization is literally just people move places.
		China is doing that right now.
		China is engaged in probably the most expansive colonization effort humanity has ever undertaken.
		And what are they doing?
		Chinese nationals are moving to different countries.
		That's it.
		And eventually they form massive voting blocks, massive economic blocks, and this results in them taking over.
		So, let's go back in time to the Pilgrims who landed at good ol' Plymouth Rock.
		What's the story there?
		Well, the story back then was that they were starving and cold and the Native Americans came and they gave them turkey and stuffing and corn and, you know, popcorn and all that stuff.
		Purple corn, and they popped it, and everybody was happy and lived in harmony forever, until
		the pilgrims started breeding, expanding rapidly, took over more and more space.
		And what happens then is the Native Americans are getting pushed out because they can't
		compete technologically and culturally and population-wise.
		Technologically advanced populations, the intention of the colonists wasn't to come
		here and massacre Native Americans.
		What happens was they said, I'm coming here to find a place to live because we're running
		out of land over there, and my government's become oppressive, whatever the reason may
		have been.
		There were a variety of reasons.
		They're in a barren area and initially very cooperative with many of the Native Americans.
		Not in the Caribbean, different story, different colonizers, different form of colonization.
		You had a lot of this, the conquistadors are looking for treasures and bounty to bring back to the crown and things like this.
		But you had settlers who came, and it was like, we're gonna build houses and live here.
		Once it started expanding rapidly, then it's, hey you, I need that land, I got kids.
		And then they're like, but this doesn't matter, now we fight.
		And then this becomes war and conquest.
		What we're likely going to see with China's expansion and colonization is, and they're already doing this everywhere, is in the future you will see various governments completely overtaken by Chinese influence simply because Chinese people have moved there and have that influence.
		Maybe in 300 years you have like in Africa a country that is 73% ethnic, you know, Chinese or whatever, and they declare independence or something and they're isolated from the Chinese Communist Party, who knows?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They could come to the U.S.
		and then just become co-opted by U.S.
		culture.
		If our culture is strong enough, that's like the culture war.
		That's like civilization, cultural victory.
unidentified		Yeah, that's fake.
		It doesn't happen.
		It doesn't happen.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, like, people get swayed in one direction or another every day of their lives, and you can become more into 2A, gun rights, freedom of speech, or you can become more into, like, oligarchic ownership of humans as cattle.
		Like, it could be one or the other.
		It depends on who you're surrounded by, what the media is telling you when you turn on the TV, what the music says.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump back to the various news subjects instead of going off in the wide foreign policy stuff because we do have some stories I want to talk about.
		This is from Tenet Media.
		Nick Fuentes and Jake Shields walk into Turning Point's People's Convention and are almost immediately removed by security.
		So I don't know the reason.
		I don't think they know the reason.
		The guy who walks up to Fuentes and Shields says he knows why he's banned from here, and Nick then responds, because of Israel.
		And I think this is a big problem for Turning Point.
		In not, I don't know if they've issued a formal statement or what, but I do think there should be a reason why Nick Fuentes and Jake Shields, I believe primarily Nick Fuentes, was removed from their conference.
		This video, it's just from today earlier at the turning point, I think it was in Detroit.
		They're doing a great event, happy to see it.
		But for what reason was Nick turned away?
unidentified		Isn't he like a leftist socialist kind of guy?
		What does?
		Yeah.
		National socialist.
		Yeah, he's like a socialist, isn't he?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He's a national socialist.
unidentified		Is he a socialist?
unidentified		I don't think there's a conference for, like, right-wing people, so it wouldn't make sense.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They have leftist journalists that are allowed in there, and if they don't want Nick there, that's absolutely fine, but if they don't give a reason, then Nick decides what the reason is, and Nick's decided the reason was his criticism of Israel.
unidentified		Well, that's Nick's reason for everything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He stubs his toe, he's like, Israel did And great, and maybe that's true, maybe it's not, but Turning Point should say, here's the reason why we don't allow Nick Fuentes in.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And maybe they did, I don't know, I just didn't see it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, but I mean, I'm pretty sure that he does believe in like a big, strong central government.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So he may be conservative, but it's a conservative government with big, strong, so it's not like... If his people wanted to win, he would do what Tim said.
unidentified		You do type two colonization.
		You go, you take your people, you take over a place.
		That's what free staters do in New Hampshire.
		We've moved in.
		You take over.
		You colonize it.
		If Christians want a nation, they should take over their best state.
		They should target it.
		They should all move there and they should enact their government.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, a lot of people have pointed out Iceland.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		is an overwhelmingly white country with eugenics policy.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And rare earth minerals, I think?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the geothermals actually increase your standard of living dramatically.
		And so there have been white nationalists who have proposed, their proposal is that if you're a white nationalist, keep it to yourself, Emigrate to Iceland however you can, bring as many people as you can, and take over this small nation.
		And here's the reality, they don't want to do that.
		Just like socialists, they're like, nah, I want your stuff.
		I don't want to have to go and make my own thing.
unidentified		I want your thing.
		I think that's a big problem with all this stuff.
		It's very difficult to have a Fuentes-like narrative that doesn't also involve everyone on your side being a retard.
		Your conspiracy theory is that everyone on my side is constantly tricked, and it's not possible for them to not get tricked.
		I just don't get it.
		I'm very mad that I can't do math.
		Their complaints just all involve them being dumb.
		You want to build a society where it's only for dumb people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're saying the argument that they're having is that Israel has outsmarted them at every step of the way?
unidentified		I mean, Jews are so smart that I can't even convince my fellow white Christians, who still make up the predominant portion of America, to just not get tricked by Jews.
		Implicit in his theories is that Christians are too dumb to not get tricked by Jews, therefore Jews can't be near Christians.
		That's literally what he's saying.
		That is what he believes.
		Because it starts as a cheat code because, you know, they believe that white people are a whole lot smarter than non-white people.
		That's what they believe ideologically.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, not necessarily.
		They actually just believe in a heavy correlation between race and IQ, and they do believe that there are some non-whites that are smarter than… Yes, on an individual basis, but not on a group basis.
		No, no, they actually will outright say Asians are smarter than them.
unidentified		Fair.
		Yeah.
		Fair.
		But they won't say that about blacks, or they won't say that about Hispanics.
		So how do you then explain… why you are politically losing to people who you regard as
		inferior.
		Jews are who you then bring in as the explanation.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Real quick, this is why I refer to Fuentes and them as, it's a form of wokeness that
		they're concerned about Jewish privilege.
		The arguments that they make about Israel, you can take all of the arguments they make
		about Jews and replace the word Jew with white person and you get the woke ideology.
unidentified		He sounds like Malma talking about the boar in South Africa.
unidentified		Seriously, if you listen to some of those South African people talking about why are the boars so good at running the power plants, they sound exactly like Nick Fuentes complaining about journalists.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The joke I used to make is...
		Take any one of these arguments and replace—you have Jews, you have white people, you have the 1%, you have the bankers.
		You can figure out which faction you belong to by ascribing all of the conspiracy theories to a select group of people.
		Because that's what everybody does.
		You had, during Occupy Wall Street, the 1%.
		It's the rich people that start all the wars.
		It's the rich people that are stealing our wealth.
		The rich people, a very generic, vague thing to say.
		Then you get the anti-Semitic groups that are saying, like, it's the Jews that run all the banks.
		It's the Jews that start all the wars.
		Then you can take that, then it's the white people.
		Now all of a sudden, then it's the cis-heteronormative white males.
		Whatever group you hate, you assign to whatever bad thing is happening, and there's your conspiracy theory.
unidentified		Well, the most appealing political narrative is one that justifies me hurting other people and taking their stuff.
		Every political narrative is selling some justification that we need to help these people hurt these other people.
		And so who helps and who gets hurt?
		And so this is an appealing political narrative to go and take stuff from wealthy people or people who haven't.
		It's so appealing.
		We want these theories to be true.
		Of course it's appealing that billionaires are all evil.
		The idea that billionaires are better than the average person and mostly earn it through merit, that's not a comfortable fact.
		I want to believe that they cheated me somehow.
		I want to believe that they got one over on me and therefore I can go and take their things.
		It's much more appealing.
		All of my psychology is primed to want to believe that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is the narrative of so many revolutions, so many genocides.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Blaming a group for all of your problems.
unidentified		Which is why, as a libertarian, I believe that the government is the fault of all their problems, and we need to take the government's stuff.
unidentified		So I want to be clear, this is a good strategy, it works, and I am using it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The government's stuff is your stuff.
unidentified		Well, right!
		I mean, think about it.
		The government owns an incredible amount of land.
		We should take it and distribute it to the people.
		The government is taking an incredible amount of money.
		They're controlling all this wealth and all this economy.
		We've got to take it back.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I've got an idea.
unidentified		I want to ask what you think.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All of the land that is controlled by the federal government in the West Coast, in the Rockies, like you know how they have just control over all of it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What if we divide up 40 acres each and a mule and pay the reparations to the descendants of slaves through seizing federally held lands and distributing to private individuals?
unidentified		Sure, we all, you know, what you expect would happen, you know, would happen.
		You know, win lottery winners, win million dollars.
		Where are they ten years later?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's changed, actually.
unidentified		People who don't have anything generally don't have anything as a result of their choices.
unidentified		If you give them a bunch of things, they'll just end up with nothing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes, yes, but I don't know if I care because I'm like... We've had this argument about... Oh yeah, shut them up.
unidentified		Sure, yeah.
		But they wouldn't shut up.
		They'd just ask for more.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't care if they ask for more.
		Or taking the land from the government and stripping the power from the land they've seized.
		So, you know, we've had a lot of arguments about reparations.
		It's a bad idea.
		I certainly think the general idea that they proposed, like, how about scholarships?
		How about community centers?
		How about tax?
		And I'm like, dude, Growing up in racially segregated areas, I tell you how bad it will be.
		It will be nightmarish if you implement direct reparations policy that either is cash, cash-lemental, or community-specific in cities.
		That being said, if the reparations plan was, we're going to seize all of the Bureau of Land Management's land and then distribute it among private citizens who are descendants of slaves, that's just taking away from the government, and I don't care what happens after the fact.
unidentified		Do they get the land or do they get the value of the land?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The land.
		The federal government has seized effectively a bunch of land in the United States.
		They just declared ownership under the Bureau of Land Management.
		And I'm like, nah, how about this?
		And you know, we had one guy on the culture war who was like a woke lefty guy.
		And I was like, perhaps here's the agreement, the compromise.
		The government has basically seized this land from the people.
		We don't really have an effective means of just restoring that to private ownership.
		But if we play the reparations angle, we get a 50-50.
		It does kind of suck that we have this race-based payout system, but it is just seizing the land back from the federal government into the hands of private citizens, which in the end can find its way into the market and then find its value.
		I don't know, I'm kind of okay with that.
unidentified		Yeah, but this idea that if you just give people assets that they won't be poor again.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying that.
unidentified		Sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I literally don't.
		They can go live in the mountain with the mule and then run out of food and go back to the city for all I care, but the government has lost control of the land they seized.
		So it's like, whatever!
unidentified		Sure, yeah.
		No, I get it.
		I'm with you now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But you know what will happen?
		They will go to someone and they'll say, you know what?
		We told you all, hundreds of years ago, we told your ancestors that there would be 40 acres and a mule.
		You are getting it.
		And then what will they do?
		They'll sell it.
		So all that would really happen is land would open up for sale at a competitive market rate because there would be so much of it, it actually wouldn't be too expensive, and then you'd see the private market come in and say, we will now buy this from all of you.
		I'm not saying that'll be good in terms of what happens to the people who sell the land after the fact.
		It just strips the asset away from the federal government and puts it in the private market.
unidentified		It probably would help someone.
		It may not help the actual initial beneficiaries, the initial recipients, but the process of
		selling all that land might actually help someone.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It'll help BlackRock.
unidentified		You could just sell the land directly though and use that to pay down the debt or use it
		as a… That would be nice.
		Pay down the debt.
		Well, geez.
		That's crazy talk.
		I didn't mean to bring prudence.
		I'm not trying to be a bad guy.
		I'm sorry.
		There's no place for prudence in American politics.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying it's the absolute solution.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		As an idea that was presented, it's like, would you weigh the wokeness of the race-based policy versus the stripping the government of resources?
unidentified		Libertarians are the most oppressed class in America, is something I say a lot, because we're the ones who actually view the government as illegitimate.
		You guys view it as legitimate, so you deserve it.
		We don't deserve it.
		We, I think, are the ones who really deserve the reparations.
		I think if we can get lumped in with the blacks, I'm in.
		If libertarians and blacks get reparations, and then this is a deal.
		I'll cut a deal with you right now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		My attitude is just like, if you strip $200, $400 billion from the federal government in their land holdings and deliver it to the private market to be utilized in some way, I'm kind of like, I got a high threshold for what I would be willing to accept in that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, I don't see a detriment to myself, where I am, the work I'm doing, or anybody else, by giving, you know, mostly barren Rocky Mountain territories to various people to figure out what they want to do with.
unidentified		Oh, we combine this with Vivek's plan for firing administrators.
unidentified		So all the administrators, the two-thirds that get fired, they get the federal land as like their severance package.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, actually, okay.
		My idea was instead of firing everybody, you just relocate the entirety of the FBI to the
		Rockies just in the mountains somewhere and just – we'll invest in building a mountainside
		hovel, and that's where you work from now on.
		And they're going to be like, we quit.
		It's like, oh, no.
		Trevor Burrus That's right.
unidentified		We're quitting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We don't want to work here anymore.
		Oh, no.
		Don't quit.
		Oh, I guess they're gone.
		There you go.
		That's how you do it because the argument was it's really difficult to fire federal
		bureaucrats and employees.
		And it's like, well, come on.
		Anybody who knows anything about running a company, you don't just fire them.
		You just make a job that nobody wants to work.
unidentified		Mike Long They'll quietly quit.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Jared Ranere There you go.
		I first said put them in Alaska because then what we have is federal investment into building
		a city in the middle of Alaska.
		But then the Alaskans got mad and they were like, you're going to ruin our state.
		And I'm like, oh, well, that's true.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Mike Long I got a question, kind of a wider question based on what we were talking about Nick Fuentes earlier.
		Do you guys think that there's ever a situation where you can blame a group of people and they really are that group of people?
		Whether it's a class of people, I don't know how you would group these people together, a race of people, a language speaking group of people, a family, a government?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The answer is yes, but it's small scale, not large scale.
		Like, I don't think it's fair to blame America for what our oligarchic military industrial complex machine is doing against our wishes that we desperately fight every day.
		You can pass some of the blame to some of these people who are passively voting in supporting corruption, but I would say the active political class in the United States, left or right, are very much opposed to all of this war and conquest.
		And then they say, America's doing this, America's doing that.
		It's like, hey, guys, the people who follow politics back home in the United States are opposed to all of that.
		We don't want it.
		And then there's a warmonger class that just operates off of special interest.
		That being said, if there was a group of six people that called themselves the Cabal, and they were ultra-wealthy, and they were enacting a plan to, like, rob a bank, you can blame the group for the robbing of that bank.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it must be, historically, that that is the case.
		That it has happened where, like, that family is the root of all of our problems, collectively.
		Let's go take out that family.
		And then they did, and the solution was oriented.
		And then, After the removal of the threat, whether it was external governance, a family, a religious sect, a cultural sect.
		I mean, it's sad and terrifying to think that ever that you would target a race of people and that would be the end of your problems.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		A race doesn't make sense.
		Ethnic groups don't make sense.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		On its head, it doesn't make sense.
unidentified		But when we say groups, we don't mean a group of six people, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's why I'm getting into semantics of it.
		Like, the argument of a generic group, you can only blame a group when you're talking about, like, an ideological faction.
		But the answer is yes.
		If there's a group of 100 people that have formed a faction called Antifa, yes, you can blame Antifa.
		They operate in cells.
		They support each other.
		There's not that many of them.
		There's several thousand.
		They share an ideology.
		They share tactics.
		They communicate with each other.
		They fund each other.
		And they engage in violence.
		So if a group of people in BlackBlock show up and start smashing things, I say it's fair to blame Antifa.
		But that's an ideological faction.
unidentified		It's also individual people.
		It's not like you're blaming the grandchildren of Antifa members or the great-grandchildren of them for the windows that were smashed before they were even born.
		So that's what happens with a lot of when you do it over religion, race, ethnicity.
		You're often blaming people who weren't even alive whenever the original sin was committed.
		So I think, as someone who talks about groups sometimes, I think the question is, you know, how you're doing it and what you mean by it.
		Like you, because we have, there are 8 billion people in the world.
		You're going to have to be able to categorize them in some way.
		So you're even statements like men are stronger than women is
		obviously a group based statement.
		That statement is generally not men, not heard as all men are
		stronger than all women.
		It's a statement about a general statistical truth.
		And so when do you want to cut off the ability to make claims like that?
		And so to me, I think it is okay to make group-based statements that are true the vast majority of time or true in general or to be able to talk about averages.
		If you're reading these group-based statements as on average rather than all, when we talk about groups, do you mean on average or all?
		And this is unclear when we talk about groups.
		But if you're going to talk about groups, you need to make sure that you're saying – I'm saying this as an average thing.
		and something that's true in general, not something that's always true.
		And that's where group-based thinking gets dangerous, is when you say it's always true.
		So I'll give you—I'm Jewish, there's a lot of talk about—I'm half Jewish anyway—there's
		a lot of talk about Jewish responsibility for various things.
		I have no problem acknowledging that Jews are more progressive, on average,
		right, than other groups of people.
		And so, therefore, if an area is more disproportionately Jewish, on average, it's likely to be more progressive.
		If you're going to say, well, therefore, just because Jews are more progressive on
		average, no Jews can be in my conservative coalition or no Jews can – that's where
		– and so it's fine to make the statement, Jews are more progressive, if you're saying
		on average.
		If you're using that to say, and therefore I can't work with Jews, that's the problem.
		And so that's how do you mean your group statements is very important.
		David Pedrose And there's the what are you going to do about it question, right?
		So if you're just making a factual observation about something that might be true on average,
		Men are stronger than women, for example.
		Men are stronger than women.
		Therefore, to make women safe, we need to lock all men in cages.
		Well, that's kind of a problem, right?
		So, you know, what you're going to do about it matters a lot too.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's important when you make claims about groups that people know you're talking about averages.
		It's like an annoying thing to have to add on to it.
		On average, when I say that they're taller than the other group, on average, but like, because as soon as you say they are taller than them, you're assuming it assumes all.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's an IQ test.
		And I can't remember who brought this up, it might have been Michael Malice or whatever.
		It's a 4chan post.
		If you respond to my statement when I say men are stronger than women, if you respond with not all, I immediately know I'm talking to a moron.
		Yep.
		There's actually a really funny bell curve meme.
		You know the bell curve meme where there's a really dumb guy, the average guy, and then the smart guy?
		The meme was something like, the dumb guy and the smart guy both talk in as simple terms as possible, and the midwit and the average guy try to sound as intelligent as possible.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So like, the midwit's like, well not all, you mean on average is the midwit, but like the dumb guy's like, yeah, they are all taller and stronger than the others.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Not all, but yeah, they are stronger than the others.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The dumb guy goes, men are stronger than women, and the smart guy goes, this is correct, men are stronger than women.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the smart guy's picturing... And the midwit goes, actually, on average, there's around a 20% increase, like, nobody needs that context.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The idiots need it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, they don't.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They think when they hear men are stronger than women, they think all men are stronger than all women.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		See, you're pulling a midwit on me.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No, that's what the idiot thinks.
		That's why the midwit says it.
		It's just for the idiots listening.
unidentified		No.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's trying to translate.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's not the point I'm making.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think it is.
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The point is... Let me tell you what you're thinking, Tim.
		The lower IQ people can speak in simple terms to get the gist of it.
		It's communicating through memes.
		The smart people know you don't need to elaborate what is common sense.
		The midwits try to over-explain because they think they're smarter than everybody.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think they think they're smarter than the idiots.
		And maybe they think they're smarter than the smart people, too.
		Because, like, if Jeremy says men are stronger than women, and then some idiot, low IQ, is like, yeah, and pictures all men now stronger than all women, then the midwit comes in and is like, well, actually, he's not being very specific.
		It's on average.
		The smart guy already knew what he was saying.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ian's proving my point.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The dumb guy misinterpreted what the smart guy was saying.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ian, I think you've literally just proved my point.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So I think it's actually kind of a... Well, not all midwits.
unidentified		I just want to point out that not all midwits make a mistake.
		That's a good hashtag.
		Not all midwits.
		I would rather go towards the trend that groups like when we talk about groups that on average is the default context.
		I think it's I think it's easier because otherwise it's really hard to use group based labels.
		And so I actually think we've gotten too defensive.
		We've gotten so concerned about racism.
		We've gotten so concerned about bigotry that we're now afraid to make statements that are
		true because we're so worried about these claims being meant as all and going in these
		places that are.
		We do have dark aspects of human history.
		So I'm not saying there's no reason to be concerned.
		But if we're stopping our ability to talk about truth, if we can't talk about group
		differences and then we go, well, gosh, there sure does seem to be some racism in police
		violence or there sure does seem to be some racism in who's getting certain jobs or there
		seems to be sexism in who becomes a Fortune 500 CEO, and we can't explain why.
		Because we've tabooed all discussion of group differences.
		Like, this is a real problem.
		So there have been negative outcomes.
		With good intentions, we've maybe tabooed some group-based discussion, but it's had some really negative outcomes because we can't explain important truths about the world.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I think what they call race realism.
		I love the idea that you would just be genetically accurate.
		All you're doing is taking someone, talking about their genetics, and then making accurate claims about that.
		It's not about grouping them in with other people with similar genetics.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Like, some genetics lead to certain height differentials, perhaps, and that derives from your ancestry, which maybe came from one area of the world where they needed to be taller to get along.
		Stuff like that.
		And just to, so you could say, like, that person's bone structure has this quality, or the tends to have... Are you talking about phrenology?
		That might be part of it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's a meme where it shows two skeletons in an x-ray kissing, and then some leftists captioned, like, this is so beautiful because right now you can't tell if it's a man or a woman or a black person or a white person, and then someone responded with, actually we can!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Based on the mandibular blah blah blah and the forehead pronunciation, this appears to be a person from this region and this region, and it's a male and a female, and I think the conclusion was based off the skull alone they could tell it was a white man and an Asian woman.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So, like, in video games, if you have, like, one race, there's, like, the big rock man, and he can live in fire.
		You put him in the fire room, because he can survive in that environment.
		So, in reality, if you've got a white dude and a black dude and an Asian dude, what environments do they thrive in, on average?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		None of them will live in a fire room.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		None of us have to live in a fire room.
		There's no big rock men in this reality.
		But, like, that conversation is okay to have without a racist bone in your body.
		Like, just genetic observations.
		Like, how are we different?
		Let's talk about it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You understand that most of the time, accusations of racism are less about what you're saying and more about a vector of attack.
		Right.
		Nowadays, most of the time when people say race, say accuse someone of racism or whatever, it's not that they have a problem with talking about racial differences or whatever, because you can see it when they if it's a person that's a progressive, you can see that progressives are completely comfortable with racism because they're racist against white people.
		Right.
		So it's not that the problem is racism.
		It's that calling someone racist is a vector of attack.
		There are always going to be people that are going to be racist and have racist ideas or racially biased ideas.
		And you can have those without having malice towards the groups you're talking about.
		But when people are going to accuse you of racism because you're saying things, it's not that they have a problem with what you're saying so much as they want to use that as a vector of attack to shut you down.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That anecdotally functions with one of my experiences, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think the issue with race realists is that they take it too far.
		They make assumptions about individuals based on... It's not necessarily that.
		They believe that race is the most pressing factor in an individual's development, and I think genetics certainly plays a role in development, but nature and nurture probably have some kind of back and forth depending on the individual.
		So I remember in Berkeley arguing with race realists, and their argument was, Like, the race of the person is indicative of their
		genetics, and their genetics determine everything.
		And I'm like, yeah, that's not true.
		If you take a South Korean child, and on average South Koreans have higher IQs, and you leave
		him in the woods, and only occasionally drop off just raw food for him to eat, no education,
		no access to math, by the age of 15, he will be completely incapable of learning language.
		We've seen this already.
		It doesn't matter your race, it doesn't matter your genetics, with a lack of neural development,
		muscular development, this person as an adult will not be able to develop those things later
		on.
		So, you know, when these people argue about the race and the IQ, and I'm like, environmental
		factors can override almost all of that.
		And that's the issue with making presumptions about race and genetics.
unidentified		Negatively, but not positively.
		It's clear.
		It's easy to come up with negative interventions, as you say, and race is clearly not deterministic, but if there were positive interventions that could cause racial outcomes in the United States to be equivalent, this is a billion-dollar industry that people have been looking for for 50 years or 80 years or 100 years.
		Right, so I mean, we know that whatever you want to estimate the mean IQ difference between various races or ethnicities to be, it's clearly there.
		It's in the SAT data, it's in the GRE data, it's in every standardized test data that's ever been taken, it's in every IQ test data, it replicates itself in every country.
		It's like one of the most well-replicated facts.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so the problem from there is, they then say Harvard, for instance, we're going to now do admittance based on race.
		And the reason why that's so extremely racist is that you'll end up with an Asian kid from, I don't know, from the Bronx or something, low-income family, and they're going to say, you look too much like those people so you can't go to Harvard now.
		A chance for someone who is poor, of an individual circumstance, to move up in their life.
		I'm not saying you should go to Harvard, to be honest, but the general idea is there.
		Based on group race policies.
		This is what happens.
		The left looks at the schools and says, there's too many Asians, too many whites, not enough blacks, not enough Latinos.
		Start kicking Asian people out.
		And I'm like, why is, you know, little Jimmy from the Bronx being denied access to higher education based on his race?
		It doesn't solve the problem of racism.
		It is literally them exacerbating racism.
		Because their argument is they don't like the fact that too many Asians score well on tests and get into schools.
		I don't care who gets in the schools.
		Take the test, get in the school, do whatever you want.
		I don't think it's racist to have an outcome where you have predominantly Asian and white people.
unidentified		And it creates more racism.
		You guys have been covering this story out of UCLA with all this malpractice around how people have been admitted.
		You're now going to have situations where people have been gaming things to let people that are underqualified and not as able in on the basis of their race.
		And what are you supposed to do on the other side of that?
		How do those people end up getting – if you don't want racism, you need strict meritocratic tests.
		If you're creating different standards for different races, then the rational thing for people on the other side of that is to say, oh, you're a race that got preferential bonuses to get into college?
		Well, then I can't judge your college degree as an employer as equally worthy.
		I have to – I mean now you can of course – I'm not saying you discredit them.
		Go deeper.
		assess them more seriously, but if a college is clearly lowering its standards on the basis of
		race, then the degree can't be worth the same. It does that and it also creates resentment among
		the people who don't get in because they're held to a different standard.
		And it creates actually, because I saw it some in my school, you also have people who are struggling and it also can create racial resentment on that axis.
		So you have, if it ends up being that you are boosting races to get into a college and then they get into the college and they're in the bottom 20% Whereas they could have been in the middle, at the top,
		somewhere else.
		At a different college.
		Yeah.
		And that this also...
		Setting them up for academic failure.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		The idea that people that, you know, getting into the wrong school makes it more likely
		that they're going to fail is obviously not a positive for, you know, for the people that
		are actually getting it.
unidentified		Well, and then they see that they fail.
		They're like, well, we better get rid of the grades and we better, we, you know, what they've been doing, what they were doing in UCLA, like letting people just through the cot, through like medical school that couldn't pass tests.
		And they're giving them degrees.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's the first I heard.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What's the US?
unidentified		There's a big scandal.
		There's a guy on Twitter covering it, like Aaron Silberbach.
		He broke the story.
		All these professors leaked all this internal data about the racial admission standards and the outcomes of the
		students.
		And the professors had tried – they tried to have an internal investigation and they
		could not get a promise from the school that there would not be a retaliation against any
		individuals who acted.
		So this whistleblower went to a journalist with all of the data and it's pretty damning
		what UCLA has been doing, like letting basically unqualified people into the school in the
		first place and then gaming the system to give them – to basically be like either
		giving them degrees or letting them through, just completely unqualified just so that they
		could have racial equality in students.
		It's crazy.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's not just masculine either.
		It used to do with athletes.
		It was kind of like just accepted they would push athletes through the curriculum just
		because they needed a powerhouse front lineman, offensive lineman.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They're going to play ball.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They're not going to, like, be a medical student.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to shift to this story, which is only tangentially related.
		The post-millennial FAA investigates counterfeit titanium used in Boeing Airbus jets report.
		So we had all these problems with Boeing.
		But now it's Boeing and Airbus, and I don't know how serious this is, but they say the FAA is investigating how counterfeit titanium has been used in some components on Boeing and Airbus jets.
		Concerns have been raised of the structural integrity of some of the aircraft as a result.
		This comes as whistleblowers have been sounding the alarm on faulty safety practices in Boeing manufacturing facilities and practices.
		The reason why I want to jump in this is because we're kind of talking about DEI and race stuff, and this is a component.
		What's happening in airlines with diversity hiring, what's happening in the medical field.
		Last week when I was over at the poker tables, as you know I always am, there was an older guy who was like a retired airline worker who was Complaining to some of the people at table about how he's glad he's out of the industry because they've Completely stopped the safety tests like he was basically saying like the the barriers that were put in place To make sure these things are working have been slowly stripped away and people who are not qualified are now in these positions This is how you end up with fake titanium and jets which may be not so structurally sound and the fascinating things We know the diversity hiring where the goal is to get a person based on race instead of merit
		We know it's been happening and it will result in problems and these problems keep popping up.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		This apparently, and I didn't read this from the Postmillennial, I'm reading it from the artificial intelligence that answered my search query, says that the titanium, the counterfeit titanium was purchased from a little-known Chinese company and was sold with falsified documents.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		then used in parts that went into jets from both Boeing and Airbus, including landing gears, blades, and turbine discs.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		This is actually, if I understand correctly, this is typical of China, right?
		Like they have, they, I mean, obviously they'll go ahead and spoof or make their own versions of
		Apple products and they sell them all over China and stuff like that.
		So the idea that they counterfeit things, I mean, that's kind of standard operating procedure in China, you
		know?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I wonder if they sold them domestically to themselves or if this was like an external... I bet they didn't.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, actually, no, I take that back because I've heard their buildings fall down sometimes too, so... I don't know.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Who was this little known Chinese company?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Give me a name.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, but I probably can't pronounce it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Whenever I ride on these, take these airplanes now, I'm like, oh dear God.
		What am I doing?
		Why am I not flying Frontier?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I feel like that's the point, though.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It kind of seems strange that we had this big Green New Deal thing where they said people need to stop flying on planes, and then all of a sudden we get wave after wave of stories suggesting that the planes are going to fall out of the sky.
unidentified		You know what I do every time I buy a flight on Google?
		It gives you the CO2.
		I just buy the highest one.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Pan it forward.
unidentified		Gotta warm up New Hampshire a little bit.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Is it chill?
		That's right.
		I'm pro-global warming because I hate the winter in New Hampshire.
		Exactly.
		If you can push winter back to starting at the end of November and finishing by March
		1, I'm in.
unidentified		If India wants to complain that we're ruining their farming, I want a payment because this
		is good for America.
		Global warming is good for America.
		It's going to improve arable farmland in North America.
		This is good for us.
		So I think these countries who don't want it, they've got to pay us.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That is something that people don't think about.
		Apparently, the additional CO2, it does make plants grow better.
		If you have a higher CO2 level, it does make plants actually grow better.
unidentified		Yeah, there's a great study out of MIT that compares the relative productivity changes of land under various global warming scenarios, and a bunch of places get better.
		There are clearly areas that get worse, but there are clearly areas that get better.
		And so again, stopping global warming is a real cost, because energy is an input to everything.
		So if we're doing it to help the places that are getting worse, I think the places that would have gotten better should deserve payments from the places that would have gotten worse.
		This would be the equitable way to address the problem.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Opportunity cost.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because Canada's set to become a blooming ecosystem with some global warming.
unidentified		And Russia, too.
unidentified		Like, why would you be aligned with this?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Canada's got a lot of land.
unidentified		Yeah, talk about a nation being cucked.
		I can't imagine being a Canadian and being against global warming.
		How pathetic.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's because you're going to have a bunch of southern border migration.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You'll have a border crisis in no time.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I've made the open statement that once Canada actually becomes full communist and they lock everything down, people on the way through, if they can get over the border into New Hampshire, I will give them a place to stay for the night, wash their clothes, but they can't stay at my house forever, they have to keep going.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But you can sleep, you can get a good night's sleep, and I'll let you use the bathroom and wash and stuff like that.
unidentified		I know a guy in New Hampshire who says he'll pick up any Canadian, no questions asked.
unidentified		So you get across the border, he'll pick you up, drop you, you know, we need to get people out of that failing country.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
unidentified		I'm not for some kind of migrants coming here, but if you're a pro-gun Canadian, get here anyway.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I will help you out.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I will make sure that you have a safe place to go, and I will make sure that the broil-mounted Canadian police are not welcome on my property.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The Americans could not have broken away from the British Empire without the French, and now I think we owe it to the Canadians to break away from the British Empire.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no, they had their chance.
		We asked Quebec if they wanted to join.
		There were 14 colonies, it wasn't just 13.
		Quebec said no.
		And it could have been the United States with Quebec, but they didn't want to do it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I encourage the English-speaking Canadians to get through Montreal, all you French-speaking Canadians, you can stay.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Up there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We almost took Montreal, as well.
unidentified		Also, as Western Europe falls, some of those people could come over here, too.
		The better ones.
		Again, a lot of them we don't want.
		A couple of Western Europeans.
		We'll take some of those.
		There's some good, you know?
		Let's take that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, too many communists in the East.
unidentified		Well, America's sucked all the good people out of Europe for, like, several centuries, right?
		A lot of countries, yeah.
		So you're kind of left with all the—yeah.
		And I'm for—yeah, I'm for a good—there are good migrants.
		Good immigration can come from anywhere, I do believe.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We brought all the smart minds here and then poisoned them with high-fructose corn in Europe.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Fluoride.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh my god, that's what we were doing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Plastics, fluoride, pesticides, atrazine, etc.
unidentified		I think it's a good indictment of your country if the biggest failure is cheap, abundant calories.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is kind of crazy we have fat homeless people.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's wild.
		I saw a chart that it's something like 60 or 70 percent of Americans now are overweight.
		At least some kind if they're not obese.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The average?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And I think that's a big reason why people aren't having more kids.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Nobody finds anybody attractive.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's also hard to get it up if you're fat.
		All that blood flow circulation gets cut off and that makes it challenging to just get it on in general.
		I heard.
		Yeah, keep that blood flow.
unidentified		Studies say.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I heard.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Keep your lower gut calisthenics active, stay healthy, stay stretched out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, check this out.
		The average height, according to GPT, of an American male is 5'9", and the average weight is 197.9 pounds.
		Oh wow.
unidentified		Oh yeah.
unidentified		Let's do, uh... What's the BMI?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We'll do women.
unidentified		What's the average weight of a dad?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The average height of an American female is 5'4", and the average weight is 170 pounds.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God!
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God!
unidentified		That's adults?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I assume this is adults?
unidentified		This is one of those things where you, like... Ladies!
		You end up in such bubbles, you're so out of touch.
		Yup.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wow, dude.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I've been eating a lot of cholesterol.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		170!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm pretty meticulous with my diet.
		This last week I had a bunch of cheese puffs.
		They're healthier cheesy puffs, but like a lot of them.
		And the cholesterol has caused me to gain a type of weight that I'm not used to gaining.
		It's like a type of fat that's like, ooh, my skin's getting thin.
		This gross fat.
		Like, I think it's a lot of cholesterol in people's diets.
		They got to cut back on, do some healthy cholesterol.
unidentified		Phil, I'll go first to give you safety.
		I weigh less than the average American woman.
		Do you?
		Are you also?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So I had a rough weekend this past weekend.
		I lost about 10 pounds because of a trip to the hospital.
		Normally I weigh around 165, and I'm 5'6", so... Okay, so you weigh less than the average woman.
		Not a surprise.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, here's the thing.
		The average weight...
		Of an American male at 5'9", probably shouldn't be 160.
		It probably should be maybe 170, 175 because of muscle mass.
		But we're also seeing people who are not eating enough protein and not exercising at all.
		So the joke I just had to GPT was, that makes me sad.
		I'm just going to assume it's all raw muscle.
		Just all these super ripped women and men just bringing the average up.
		They're all very healthy.
unidentified		Jacked.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They got good blood pressure, low sodium.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Big bones.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Big bones.
unidentified		We already put fluoride in the water.
unidentified		Let's just add like some testosterone and some ozempic.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		TRT.
unidentified		Full suite of whatever you need.
unidentified		Just put it in the, the government puts it in the water.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Go straight to straight Colombian.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What if there are societies where they do that?
		Isolated pockets where they're like, let's just dose the entire population locally.
		Just for his experiments.
		I wouldn't put it past humans to do something like that.
unidentified		I'm just arguing with Chad Chippett about fluoride.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I do this all the time.
		Does atrazine turn frogs gay?
		The claim that atrazine, a herbicide, turns frogs gay is a misinterpretation of scientific research.
		The studies, particularly those of Tyrone Hayes, have shown that atrazine can cause hermaphroditism and other reproductive abnormalities in amphibians at certain concentrations.
		This means that atrazine exposure can lead to the development of both male and female sex organs in some frogs, potentially affecting their reproductive behavior and success.
		However, the phrase turns frogs gay is an oversimplification and misrepresentation of the scientific findings.
unidentified		Why does ChatGPT think everyone's turning gay?
unidentified		Why is everyone turning gay, ChatGPT?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why do you think rates of self-identified LGBTQ are going up among younger generations of Americans?
unidentified		What kind of answers can it give us?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Uh, greater social acceptance, increased awareness and education, cultural shift, supportive environments, and changing definitions and understandings.
		Uh, yes.
		Okay, hold on.
		Do you think maybe... Changing definitions.
		Endocrine disruptors?
		I spelled that way wrong.
		Could be playing a role.
		I do.
		I think it's endocrine disruptors.
		Uh, there is some evidence that exposure to certain endocrine disruptors can affect sexual development.
		There was one study that found there was a birth control in the 80s that worked, was very effective.
		However, in the instance that a woman did get pregnant while on the birth control, the likelihood that her baby would be female and a lesbian was like 90% or something.
unidentified		What?
unidentified		That's crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Endocrine disruptors are real.
		There's microplastics in everything.
		We know that they're endocrine disruptors and we know that they're having a serious impact.
		So, you know, the thing is, it's funny when a lot of conservatives say things like, Oh, this is all social contagion or whatever.
		And I'm like, maybe a lot of it, but I do think it's possible.
		When did we shift into heavy plastics for all of our products?
		I mean, when I was a kid, we got our lunches served in foil, in aluminum foil.
		It was a tray made of metal.
		And if you go to an antique store, everything was metal and glass.
		And then into the 80s and 90s, plastics just took over everything.
		I mean, when I was a kid, we sold glass bottle sodas at all the corner stores.
		Now I go into the gas stations, all plastics.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Glass is infinitely recyclable, correct?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Or am I wrong?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a rock, I guess.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Because I know metals aren't.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What is it, like, bithanols and stuff in PCBs or whatever, and the plastics are leeching into everything we consume.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so, you know, I think a large component of why we're seeing a big uptick is, like, we've hyper-dosed this generation, our generation and the next generation, on undercurrent disruptors.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I've got this hypothesis.
		You hear about the, what is it?
		Microplastics in the human testicles is like off the charts right now.
		They're testing guys and almost every guy they come up with has some level of plastic, microplastics.
unidentified		Mostly plastic.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Mostly plastic at this point.
		So I'm like, well, there's this mushroom that eats plastic and turns it into sugar.
		Pestiolopsis microsporae.
		If you could get this stuff into the nuts and get it on those plastics, it would digest those into sugar.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Keep your fungus out of my nuts.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So you take these little graphene buckyballs, these C60s, and you put the fungus in the buckyball and then send it through the body to locate the plastics and then let the stuff out.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if it's going to work.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then people get fungal infections in their body and they're like, why am I dying?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That'd be terrible.
unidentified		I don't want to be an early adopter on that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm not going to sit around and wait and cry and say nothing can be done.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Let's get proactive about this and get the plastic out of our nuts collectively, gentlemen.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think this is what RFK Jr.
		nails perfectly.
		And this is clearly what he cares about the most in his campaign is environmental toxins.
		They're everywhere, from pesticides to plastics and more.
		We are eating this stuff.
		We have glass bottles that we refill with filtered water that we have from a well here, and then we also have plastic.
		Some people don't care, and so it's easy for us to just say, okay, fine, whatever, we'll get plastic, but we also have the glass for people who want glass instead.
		And then, you know, trying to be cognizant of this, we'll go to farms and get wax paper wrapped meat products, but it's becoming increasingly impossible.
		Even local farms will vacuum seal their meat in plastic.
unidentified		I'm not saying all this stuff is false.
		I've found it hard to sort fact from fiction, because you get a lot of spurious health claims, and you get a lot of not-so-convinced-all-kinds-of-things hurt them.
		You get the people who are worried that the 5G is hurting them, and all these things that are clear.
		And I'm not trying to put this in the same class as those kinds of things, but I found it really hard to get.
		good data. Maybe this is just the state of science. Maybe these things haven't been studied.
		I found it really hard to sort fact from fiction. I don't know how other people here do it. I have
		a science background. I find it hard to sort fact from fiction in these areas.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Ridiculously challenging. I'll make like, I don't even know if the microplastics are in the nuts.
		I just heard that it was.
		The number was like 96% of men tested, so I assumed it was more real because it was more extreme.
unidentified		I bought metal plates for all my kids.
		We use all metal in my house now.
		Might as well be sick, but it's like, I don't really know.
		I'm just kind of being doing the like parenting.
		I'm worried and I want my, you know, so I just do it.
		You know, but figuring it out is really hard.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You ever get the receipts now?
		I tend not to touch receipts, that plastic film that goes on the receipt.
		Apparently Luke Rutkowski is like, I don't want it.
		I trust you.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I heard, I heard the story too.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Estrogen on it.
unidentified		It's also doesn't get the food tests.
unidentified		So yeah, the fact that it gets... What are you talking about?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Uh, receipts, printed receipts, apparently have some new plasticky film that gets into your skin and goes into your bloodstream.
unidentified		What?
		I haven't looked into it.
		They have for a long time.
		It's all the heat receipts.
		I mean, Target was using these 20 years ago when I worked at Target, so it's an older technology.
		And it goes into your skin?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I should read more about it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's just one of those things where, like, I don't know if it's true, but I can feel that filmy crap on them.
unidentified		It's so low cost to just not, to handle those receipts less, and it's like, well, I could just...
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I haven't taken a receipt intentionally in a long time, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, check this out!
		I asked GPT, do receipts have plastic that gets into your skin?
		Yes.
		Receipts can contain chemicals like bisphenol A, BPA, and bisphenol S, which are used in thermal paper.
		These chemicals are considered endocrine disruptors and can be absorbed through the skin upon contact with the receipts.
		While occasional handling of receipts is generally considered low risk, frequent or prolonged exposure may increase the potential for these chemicals to enter the body.
		Using alternatives like digital receipts or handling receipts minimally can reduce exposure.
unidentified		What?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And funnily enough, we have- So CVS is like really screwing with people.
unidentified		Absolutely.
unidentified		Those are like a mile long.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Those are the people that work there.
unidentified		We have federal laws on drug laws about things being chemically similar.
		So if I go cheat and I change the chemical a little bit and it gets you high, I can charge you under opioid laws without- well, I. You can be charged under opioid laws without- Literally being the same chemical.
		My understanding is the same standards don't exist for some of these plastics and various things.
		So there'll be a study that comes out and it's like, oh, you'll buy Cefnol-A as an endocrine disruptor.
		They're like, oh, well, we'll alter the molecule to something that's very likely to be biologically similar, but because the evidence isn't there and the burden is in the opposite direction that they're able to do some of this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what's funny is that, like, every generation in the past hundred years had something seep into their body.
		You know, we can go back, we had, remember the radium girls?
		The radium, they were putting radium on everything?
		Then you get to asbestos, and people got mesothelioma.
		Then you had lead.
unidentified		The lead paint craze.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The lead paint craze, but also the lead and gas in the air everyone's breathing in.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now we have our plastic endocrine disruptors.
unidentified		Lead is an example.
		To me, that one's still an open question.
		Whether that was a selection effect or real.
		It's really hard with all these statistical things whether it's just a selection effect.
		If it turns out that lead was in poorer areas where there was more likely to be crime and more likely to be – and again, I'm not saying the lead hypothesis is false.
		But even when I try to dig into that one, it's actually – how do you disentangle statistical claims when you can factor in the fact that there can be all kinds of selection effects in terms of what's producing these disparities?
		And it just ends up being so hard to figure out what's true.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Do the Romans use lead pipes?
		I think they did.
		Was that what caused the downfall of the empire?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm just kidding.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Everyone making everyone a citizen is what caused the downfall of the empire.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of things.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That was a big one.
unidentified		Whatever I'm the most mad about right now is what caused the downfall of the Roman Empire.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Climate change.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I know what it is.
unidentified		Climate change.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The Romans used lead pipes, yeah, extensively.
unidentified		And then what, asbestos?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Did you mention the asbestos nastiness?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, this is brutal, because we were looking at a building in West Virginia to buy a while ago, and it was great, it was moderately priced, and then they said, but there's asbestos everywhere.
		And I was like, okay, bye.
		Like, there's no way, unless you want to give me the building, and then I'm gonna spend that much money fixing this thing.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Even if it's exposed asbestos, they'll be like, don't worry about it, because unless you brush up against it, you're fine, but like, just banging on the wall will cause it to vibrate and come off the wall.
		It's nasty.
		Yeah, the Romans, they were at peak production producing about 80,000 metric tons of lead per year for their water irrigation supply network.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Lead, just so easy to use and heavy, it didn't rust.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, isn't it like easy to press?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, soft, you can make it, it was very easy for them to make it into pipes and stuff like that because of how soft it is.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So they just rotted their brains until everything fell apart.
unidentified		Man.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They were all crazy as hell.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Madder than a hatter comes from the fact that hatters used to use lead in the hats and you'd end up getting... I thought that was mercury.
unidentified		Oh, that's right.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm sorry, yes, you're right, I'm sorry, my bad.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It wasn't, it wasn't, it was mercury, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they would use mercury and then eventually go insane.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Madder than a hatter.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You're correct.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What a wild time when they would just be like, you have syphilis, drink this mercury.
		And they'd be like, okay.
		And did it work?
		I mean, like, why would they do it unless it worked?
unidentified		Right, but all of history is us being insane about all health and medical claims.
		Like, why do I believe that's not true now?
		You know, you only have one body, so I appreciate, you know, being conservative about it and wanting to be safer about things.
		But, you know, I kind of assume that we're basically just as wrong about everything as we have been always.
		And so the odds are that any given claim is, like, probably insane.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I saw a meme like what Tim was talking about.
		It said, uh, you got ghosts in your blood so you should do cocaine about it.
		Man, I don't know what's wrong with you.
		You got ghosts in your blood.
		Use some cocaine about it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, everybody, we're gonna go to a Super Chat, so smash that Like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends.
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		If you like the work we do and you want to make sure it keeps going, we rely on you as members to make everything keep functioning.
		In the meantime, we will read your Super Chats, and if anybody wants to Super Chat some questions for our good friend Chet GPT, depending on the reasonableness of the question, we will ask our friend Chet GPT to answer.
		There's probably some good ones.
		All right.
		Alpha Turkey says, somehow Disney managed to create a show where in a galaxy far away, black kids are born with no father.
		Star Wars is woke, Marvel is woke, and the boys lost it with season four.
		Is season four the new season or was that last season?
		I mean, that's racist.
		Why would Star Wars do that?
		That's so racist.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They have kids come from broken homes?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, they just had their lesbian space witches who used the force to make a baby.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Why?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh my god.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's like, um, Mary was conceived of the Holy Spirit, kind of.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, not space witches, though.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, apparently.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Togan Blackey says, how do people feel the new track Let You Go is dope?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so very much.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Good beat, good chorus, too.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's the new one?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Let it go?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Let you go.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Let you go.
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Karen Manning says, can you have Joe Neiman good logic on?
		He's trying to unspeech Trump.
		He's friends with Viva Frye.
		He's an interesting person.
		We'll take a look.
		Look at this.
		We got Quantum Strange Quark.
		He says, Jesse Waters mentioned Timcast on The Five today.
		Oh, did he?
		What did he say?
		Member from 39 months.
		Rock on, brother.
		Did he mention a good thing about us?
		Or did he say, that guy's awful?
		What a terrible show.
		Don't watch it.
		Watch Fox News instead.
unidentified		No such thing as bad publicity.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I've been on Jesse's show several times.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He's a good dude.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I like him a lot.
		Yeah, he's got a good show.
		He's funny, too.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Jesse's great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's go.
		Joseph says, Tim, huge fan since 2020.
		Can you please shout out my brother's GoFundMe?
		He's 31 years old, single father of two.
		Their mom died two years ago and now he's in the hospital bedridden with end-stage liver failure, hoping for a transplant.
		Thanks.
		At Dempsey O-S-T-V-I-G.
		Sorry to hear it, man.
		Best of luck.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I just did a liver flush, which was really, really life-changing.
		If you've never done anything like that, it's worth looking into.
		Gallstones.
		You release a bunch of gallstones.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		T-Rex Pet Shop says, we're moving to Arizona to vote for Kerry Lake.
		If you want to give to our moving fund, I'll even send some mealworms for your chickens if you put an address in Venmo.
		T-Rex Pet Shop.
		Best of luck.
		We have to build the new coop.
		The chicken coop.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, a little central planning.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I was talking to Kim about that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's going to be relatively simple, but good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Designed better, knowing our restrictions and limitations and what the chickens need.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Will there be an irrigation canal?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think we're planning... Yeah, so the last... When we built Chicken City, we actually built pans where you could easily... It was a sewer system that had a pipe going out, so when you ran the hose, it would just wash it away, but the chickens did not want to sleep above it.
		They wanted to sleep in a different spot, because they just like to go up high, and so we were like, we built this thing where they could perch, so now we're adapting.
		We're going to build the same thing where they can perch, because they like to sleep high, and then put the pan underneath that, and then you'll be able to hose it out, and it'll funnel through the tubes, the chicken sewer system.
		Oh, this was big news we didn't get to.
		Drax's Storm Shadow says, breaking news, Supreme Court overturns bump stock ban in 6-3 ruling.
		And a federal court overturned the pistol brace ruling as well.
		So we are winning?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Too much, actually.
		I'm getting sick of it.
		I'm getting sick of winning.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Just get used to it, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, as soon as Trump gets back in.
		Cameron Keir says they need to broadcast the debate from a retirement home.
		That's the only way people are going to watch.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm really excited about this debate.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Isaac Vanderbilt says the debate needs to be at the Roman Coliseum.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, something.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It sounds more exciting than it would be, though.
		Just standing there.
		You know what I mean?
unidentified		Some say it's the best coliseum, the greatest coliseum.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Matthew Hammond says Woodrow Wilson was the first demented president.
		It has been said that his wife signed some bills.
		Really?
		Is that true?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think he had a stroke.
unidentified		He had a stroke while he was in office.
		That's actually false.
		Every president was a demented president.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Maybe not every, but...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Joe La Kyle says, Phil, let you go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		More please.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
		Coming, there will be another video coming in probably a little bit.
		It's not going to be super soon.
		This one's got a little time to baste, but there will be another one and then another one after that too.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Another video or another song?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Another video.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Of the same song?
unidentified		No.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, different song.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Different song because, you know.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Do you guys ever release songs in different forms?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Like the same song with a different genre twist on top?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		We've done acoustic versions of songs, yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There's acoustic versions of like two weeks and forever in your hands rolling around the internet somewhere.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We were actually talking about doing that as like an artistic take.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We have one song we're working on where we're like we could do four different versions of it in different styles.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've been in a country lately.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That'd be fun.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We could do like the country version and you know.
unidentified		How about a national anthem?
unidentified		Have you thought about having an anthem?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, a Fredamistani anthem?
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		No, no, this is the free nation of Fredamistan.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There we go.
unidentified		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So we need a national anthem.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		If we did the national anthem in metalcore, that'd be hot.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It'd have to be a specific anthem for here.
		You wouldn't just want to do the national anthem, is it?
		You'd take the national anthem and do it for here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the flag has a rooster on it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's gotta reflect what we got.
unidentified		It'd be so hardcore.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, Heron Gaming News says, I ordered two bags of Appalachian Nights.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Can you please send Ian to Alberta to hand deliver my coffee and use his brain power to help the Oilers win the cup?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm not an Oilers fan.
		I feel dirty just being asked.
		I'd love to go to Alberta, though.
		That'd be cool.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Daniel Sotelis is sending this from the delivery room for our third baby.
		Welcome, baby Adam Paul.
		Congratulations!
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Making babies is good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		See, the wife doesn't need the epidural when she's watching Timcast.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's just such a soothing and relaxing show that brings such joy, it relieves all pain.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's how I feel too.
unidentified		Solving the baby problem.
		Right.
		The show.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
		Let's go. Drax's Storm Shadow says, yesterday, pistol brace rule was vacated. Today,
		bump stock ban was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. We are winning.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's pretty clear that this court is not going to allow rules that are presented to it,
		created by agencies. Both of the bump stock ban, both the bump stock ban and the brace ban, if
		they actually want them, they still can get, try and get Congress to pass legislation to outlaw
		them. And that possibly would stand. But the, the, this is for people that aren't familiar with it,
		but the, the two decisions in particular, they got vacated or vacated because of the fact that
		the ATF has overstepped its bounds by.
unidentified		Yep.
unidentified		Messed up.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		these things on making rules about these things, specifically with the pistol brace, because they
		had already had a decade of selling them to the public and they had had multiple papers sent out
		by the ATF that said they were fine. And then when Merrick Garland came in, Biden came in with
		Garland, they were just like, well, we're going to go ahead and make a whole bunch of felons in
		America because we hate Americans. So yeah, messed up. They lose. Motoso says magic is hella gay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That is not correct.
		Magic is based.
		However, the later sets, they've been getting kind of woke, so... That sucks.
		And I'm concerned because I actually have some collector stuff.
		I've got a sealed portals box.
		I have a sealed revised booster pack.
		It's not worth that much.
		But I'm concerned that what they're doing is going to destroy the value in the secondary market of some of these collectibles.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'll be honest, I'm in it for the mechanics, and if it's called, like, Twisted... I'm not gonna say super offensive stuff, but if the thing's called, like, Twisted Fairy, or Twisted Dinosaur, I don't really care what the card's called, I don't really care what the image is on the art, as long as it's a badass card, I'll have four of them in my deck.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So, let the woke-ify commence, I don't care.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think a lot of what the problem is, is they've gone after the player base.
		Because that's what tends to happen, it's like, the manufacturers or the producers do things, they'll put mild stuff in the actual game or whatever it is, whether it
		be a video game or whatever, but the, uh, a lot of the storm happens when people go to,
		um, to the, uh, what's it called, drafts and stuff like that, or they go to the functions and
		there's, oh, this person has said the wrong thing or is wearing the wrong thing or
		they say something offensive.
		So a lot of it is because of the actual producers of the games attacking their own community.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's lame.
		I mean, I went to a card shop several years ago that had a Kekistani flag in a little
		bucket on top of a shelf and they got kicked out of the, like, distributors network, banned
		from hosting events.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Just horrible.
unidentified		And a lot of this stuff is actually just for the employees.
		That's who it's actually for.
		When you're employees, 90% of them have the same ideology, and it turns out they'll take some perks for themselves that aren't in the interest of the business or anything else.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, we'll grab some more Super Chats.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Let's go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's see.
		What is this one?
		What is this one?
		NYBSFP says, with the amount of money these people are spending, I would think bets in the alt-gambling market to influence odds in a small expense.
		What was that in reference to?
		I can't remember.
		What were we talking about?
unidentified		I was talking about the odds for someone to... Oh, right, right, right.
		87%.
		Right, yeah, we need... I mean, to me, one of the worst things the government regulates is futures markets.
		I mean, allowing unregulated or allowing proper futures markets, they could be maybe slightly regulated.
		Be so good.
		We would know so much more about what was going to happen if we actually allowed people to bet on it.
		And it's illegal because it would be helpful.
		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Well, I suppose.
		Let's read this one.
		We got, uh, Iron War Machine says, Hey Tim, it's my birthday this weekend.
		Could I please get a shout out to the small business I work at, Strange Tactical?
		We are a small gunsmith gun maker in, uh, is it Orem, Utah.
		Nothing would make me happier than seeing the business thrive and my boss is happy.
		Well, best of luck, Strange Tactical.
		Shout out.
		Happy birthday as well.
		All right, PRCNTM, that's the name.
		The extended clip shows everyone sitting not four seconds later, so the least amount of assumptions is Biden addled brain sat down too soon and realized at halfway down his timing was off.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's what I got too.
unidentified		Yeah, totally possible.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That they were all just going to sit down.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He tried to sit down too early and the chair wasn't where he thought it was.
		Cause like, he might have just snapped too and been like, where am I?
		Sitting, sitting, sitting.
		Oh, uh.
		Sitting, uh.
		And then his wife's like, hold on, Joe.
		And he's like, okay, okay.
		It's a poop!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		Here's a good one.
		Novel Theory says they may have cleaned up the transcript before releasing it, which would explain their panic.
		Join the Discord!
		Yeah, they don't want to release the audio of Biden's discussion with her because they may have translated for him.
		This is what the media does.
		The White House may have done it as well.
		The White House does do this.
		Biden will say something incomprehensible and then the transcript will come out and it'll be corrected because they wrote the speech in advance.
		They know what he was supposed to say.
		He didn't say it and then they just put in the transcript what he was supposed to say.
		The media loves doing this thing where Biden will say, He'll be talking about, you know, we got this problem, you know, with Israel.
unidentified		You got us a certain amount of fascism.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then everyone's just like, what did he just say?
		Like, was that a word?
		And then what the media will do is, instead of putting the quote, they'll write, speaking fiercely about the conflict in Israel, he condemned Hamas.
		And you're like, no, he did not make a coherent thought at all.
		But the media just paraphrases instead of quoting.
		Translating for Joe Biden.
		Stop doing it!
		Even conservative outlets do it.
		They gotta stop doing it.
		I would just love one day to see the headline be like, Joe Biden said at a conference, you know, at a conference for Democrats, when I was a young man working in the Firmas Americanas, and then just dot, dot, dot, incomprehensible, you know, I found Bursa Mafama.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That'd be hilarious.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In the news article.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		If like the Washington Post started in the title, Biden slams Nusr-nur-bur-der, and then it's the most clicked article that they have in like months, they're like, oh god, this is going to catch fire, and then they start doing it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think we have to, because too many outlets will write, Biden expresses dismay over signing of new bill.
		And it's like, no, he said, and like, that's a different thing to say.
		And I don't know if it's positive or negative.
		It reminds me of that Simpsons joke.
		Where there's like two Russian guys playing checkers or something.
		And then the guy stands up at screaming at Lisa, but underneath it says, you are a very nice young woman.
		I'm glad to help you.
		Let me know what you need.
		And she runs away screaming, not realizing.
		So when Joe Biden comes out and he says, you know, we got Israel.
		He might be saying, I love what they're doing with Hamas.
		They're really great people, for all we know.
		The assumption that because he's excitable, you know what he's thinking is incorrect, and so the headline should read as such.
		Joe Biden says, forget about Hamas.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Take him at his word.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
unidentified		Or even not using words like says, just say, Joe Biden slurs.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or he says, turn in a shabbat of pressure.
		Do you think we get the truth about things more or less than in the past?
		Pact-A-Lack, Pact-A-Lack, that was one of them.
unidentified		More.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They should put, Joe Biden slams Pact-A-Lack, but they don't do it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They say Joe Biden praises Pact-Act.
unidentified		Do you think we get the truth about things more or less than in the past?
		Like the press?
		More.
		Yeah, I think we do get more.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because we just assume, because we didn't have the ability to counter these people through internet research, that you read the newspaper and go, wow, look at that!
		And there's a phenomenon called the Gell-Mann amnesia effect.
		Are you familiar with it?
unidentified		Very much.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Back in the day, it was a very important thing to consider, that you open a newspaper and the front page says, you know, President you know, declares war and you're like, wow. And it's just
		like, bad guys in Syria are doing this thing. They're launching high bar missiles. And you're like, wow, you turn
		the page. And then you're a plumber and you read some story
		about plumbing, you go, what, that's not how plumbing works. This
		is totally wrong. But that other story must have been true.
		And that's why I said high bar because I was intentionally
		slurring high mar. Because if anybody knew, they'd be like, that's not a real thing. A friend of mine got third place
		in the X Games a long time ago. And the news, the front page of
		I think it was the LA Times wrote that she was the first woman to perform a backslide on a railing.
		There's no such thing.
		And we were laughing our asses off when we were like, a backslide?
		They just make something up?
		They didn't know what they were talking about?
		They didn't fact check it?
		No editor caught this?
		That's how the news works.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is Gale Man amnesia where you'll read one thing, questionable, then you'll read the second thing that is blatantly wrong and you'll disbelieve the first thing you saw?
unidentified		No.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		As a result?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's that amnesia in that you'll read a story that says, you know, uranium used to clean teeth and you'll go, huh, how about that?
		Clearly nonsensical.
		You'll turn the page and then it'll say, you know, magic the gathering is the greatest board game and you, Ian, knowing this, go,
		that's not correct, that's a fake news story.
		But you've already forgotten that the story you read in the first place is probably fake too.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so they'll just bleed the market with fake trash so you forget about the first thing.
unidentified		No, no, no, no.
		It's that when you see the newspaper and get it wrong about things you know,
		you don't transfer that lack of confidence.
		You don't apply that logic to the other stories.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You forget.
		You know that when they write about your expertise, they're wrong.
		You assume they're correct when it's not your expertise.
		Instead of just realizing, they're always wrong.
		Now we have the internet.
		So they write bunk BS and we go, let me fact check that real quick.
		Hey, look, I found multiple sources.
		That's not true.
unidentified		But now we have the internet so I don't even have to read anything I disagree with.
unidentified		Only read things that already say what I want to hear.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The AI will feed you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, you can just tell ChetGPT, don't give me answers that will upset me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Just tell me what I want to hear and it'll make sure you got it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		If you read things that you always agree with, you don't have a lumpy, weird, crappy-looking brain.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You've got a nice, smooth brain.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's very attractive.
unidentified		Try to keep it as smooth as possible.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		Just write everything you read yourself.
unidentified		There you go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Perfect.
		Never disagree with it.
		Perfect.
		Evan2281 says, When Woodrow Wilson was in the later part of his second term, it was believed his wife was running the country because of his mental decline.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		She definitely presided over cabinet meetings and things like that.
unidentified		Wow.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Unreal.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Brown bear says one alternative to the Biden poop story.
		We've seen the note cards they give him that literally tell him when and where to sit down.
		He probably forgot he was supposed to keep standing up.
		Oh, that's that's fair too.
		I just think.
		Everybody's looking into it, trying to find an explanation.
		Any explanation, I think you could make a list.
		And you can write down possibilities as to what he was doing.
		And my point is simply that pooping his pants is on that list.
		That's it.
		I didn't say it was 100%.
		I said it was, I don't know, double digits, 10%.
		That's my point.
		Just 10%.
unidentified		And if futures markets were legal, we could have a clear betting market on whether Biden would poop his pants again.
unidentified		Or did, or whatever.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Trump said he pooped himself at the Resolute Desk.
		And then, so Trump said, the desk has literally been soiled, so I don't know if I'll be using it.
		The woke corporate press then ran a story saying, Donald Trump claims Joe Biden climbed up on the Resolute desk and defecated on it.
		Trump never said that.
		He said it was soiled, to imply simply to anyone who's thinking that Biden was sitting at the desk when he crapped his pants.
		That is soiling it.
unidentified		He's so good with picking like the exact right.
		He's so good at it.
		There's a one, there's one of Trump where he's like standing at a podium and there's like a, it's like during COVID and there's a speech and like the only thing he's crossed out is China virus.
		Like whatever they had said about COVID, he had just like, you could see that he had like crossed out and written.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		China virus.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		China virus.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he wrote that himself?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Oh yeah, very good at nicknames.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He was just on Logan Paul's Impulsive.
		It was pretty entertaining.
		Did like an hour with him and Mike.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		RainWorks says power is out all across Utah.
		I was on my way home and all the stoplights went out.
		It's currently 94 degrees outside.
		Possible cyber attack?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Wow, really?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's hot.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In Utah.
		Difficult.
		Don't know.
		Or sometimes the power goes out.
		What have we here?
		Let's see.
		Fix Bayonet says, Happy 249th birthday to the U.S.
		Army, 20-year vet, 4th Infantry Division, 2nd Infantry Division, 10th Mountain Division, 1st Cavalry Division.
		This we'll defend.
		Hear, hear!
		Right on, man.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Alright.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Justin Bowles says, Biden is going to resign on Juneteenth to be altruistic, claim distress over his son, also Las Vegas survivor, and I am thankful the Supreme Court stood with our constitutional rights today.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
unidentified		Joe Biden is going to step down on Juneteenth and say it should be Michelle Obama.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You think?
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He will pardon Hunter before anything.
unidentified		Biden will?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Joe will.
		Win or lose, I think he's going to pardon Hunter.
		But also, the question is, will Hunter actually get jail time?
		Because if they say probation, there will be no pardoning.
		He's going to go, look, you got off easy, make a few phone calls, nothing changes for you.
unidentified		The tax case he probably doesn't get, or the tax case is the more serious of the two.
unidentified		The gun case, he probably doesn't get.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't like either of these cases.
		The gun case, I think, should not have been brought.
		I think it's unconstitutional to begin with.
		And the tax case, at least from what I was reading of it, you just make him pay it.
		You know what I mean?
unidentified		He has paid it, or Kevin Morris has paid it.
		Yeah.
		Yeah, has paid his back taxes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In which case, I think the penalty should be very, very, very minor.
		The only reason many of the charges against him in the tax case stand is because they intertwine with other things.
		So the argument is, he failed to pay the proper amount of taxes one year.
		Typically not a crime, typically they make you pay it.
		He stopped making payments on one payment from, I think, 2015.
		Okay, make him pay it.
		However, combined with all of this, is that he was drawing profits from his company while he owed taxes, and then partying with it.
		You combine those things and they say okay now you are committing tax crimes.
		I still think your best bet is just to get the money from him.
		I don't like the idea of people going to prison for taxes.
		This is stupid.
		Stupid.
		I don't like most taxes to begin with because they're used to just perpetuate the Federal Reserve monetary theory broken system but you know that's a whole other conversation.
		Let's go, Vroom says.
		Luke Combs just released an album all about fathers.
		As a man who recently lost my first child to stillbirth, it really hits me hard.
		We need more pro-father in culture.
		Rest in peace, my daughter, Maisie.
		Sorry to hear, man.
		Sorry to hear.
		But agreed.
		We must champion fathers.
		Get Rid of Government says Alex Jones is ordered to liquidate his assets.
		We did have that one pulled up, actually.
		The Postmondial Judge orders liquidation of Alex Jones's personal assets to pay Sandhuk families.
		And I believe that there was a show hosted by Owen Schroer and Roger Stone saying it may be their last show on Infowars.
		It's kind of wild.
		However, what if Owen Schroer just starts a new studio and Alex Jones is a host on it?
		What can they do?
unidentified		He personally owes all the money, right?
		Sure.
		It's not his entity or anything.
		That's what it says.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They want to liquidate his personal assets, which InfoWars is one of them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones will still be hosting a show.
unidentified		He'll be able to keep doing a show.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're trying to stop him from doing it.
		That's literally what they've said.
		The news reports say that they want to take his ex-account from him so that he can't promote any new shows or endeavors.
unidentified		Not to defend—again, obviously this is all ridiculous and none of it should have happened in the first place, but if he's—it's that it's an asset.
unidentified		So if they're able to seize his assets because he's in debt, they're making the claim that his Twitter— They literally—it's literally reported by Reuters to prevent him from promoting any other business venture.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right. They said it's akin to a customer list we should get, but they said they want to make sure
		he can't promote any other ventures. And they said that he's been promoting Dr. Jones's Naturals,
		his father's company, which is his way of circumventing rights. I'm like, it's insane,
		because if he's shutting out a different company owned by someone else, how can you call that
		circumventing anything? You're allowed to do reads for anybody.
unidentified		Yeah, I don't see how you can stop him from continuing to speak and continuing to be popular.
		You can make sure he doesn't own anything. I do agree that that's within the government's power.
		I don't think they're going to be able to stop him from speaking. And even if they take his
		account, he starts a new one. And then what happens when Owen Schroer starts a new studio
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		called Information Battle, and the lead show is hosted by Alex Jones, who's just an employee who
		makes $48,000 a year. But as an employee, he gets access to the company car. He gets access to the
		company jets. He gets the company card for all of his business expenses and meals. He can use the
		the company ranch for staying.
unidentified		You have to avoid, does anyone know the term, it's like something constructive, whatever.
		As long as it's not a certain type of construction, as long as, if it's real, then it's really
		our insurer's company and not Alex Jones's.
		The tests get complicated, governmental tests here.
		I think it's a continuance of a previous entity and you're faking it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sure, and they will go after him no matter what, but it is kind of crazy to think Alex
		Jones being as popular and prominent as he is would be an expensive hire.
		If you want to get him to host a show—so his company's gone.
		Owen Schroer says, well I'm not going anywhere, I'm going to start my own company.
		Having Alex Jones as a primetime host would be a major accomplishment.
		Alex Jones is going to say, well, you got to pay me a bunch of money.
		He says, well, I don't have a lot of money to pay you.
		We can only pay you a small salary, but we can give you access as benefits for being a contractor for the show.
		We'll pay the lease on your car.
		We'll give you a corporate card for all your business meals, allowing Alex Jones to live at a very high standard of living on things he doesn't own that you couldn't reasonably seize.
		No one said they're being reasonable though, so.
unidentified		Yeah, so I think that works.
unidentified		Where Alex gets in potential trouble is if it turns out that he was constructing something where it wasn't really Owen's company, where they had some secret agreement.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They'll just claim it is.
unidentified		That's the stuff, right.
		Well, you have to have discoverable evidence.
		You have to be able to incriminate yourself in some way.
		And so as long as there'd be no discoverable proof of that kind of thing, I think it works fine.
		I mean, shouldn't they want him?
		I mean, I know the money is really secondary, but shouldn't they want him to earn some kind of income so they can continue to seize it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's right!
		But they don't!
		They want to just shut InfoWars down.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And the families that work for InfoWars, the men and women that work there and their families, to go after those people right now by destroying their livelihoods is completely insane.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		For those Sandy Hook families that have already suffered enough to cause this suffering now on all these new families is like...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, because they're not just going after Alex, they're going after all of his employees.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's a lot of people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All of his employees, all of his staff, they're putting him all out of work, they're setting all their kids hungry, because Alex Jones did something wrong 12 years ago.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You know they do that to anyone, right?
		Like the whole basket of deplorables thing that Hillary Clinton said?
		All of the people that go into the basket Like that she would say, or anyone would say, go into the basket.
		There's a massive, massive part of the population that would use the government to oppress those people if they were given the opportunity.
		We were talking about this morning on the culture war, how a lot of times libertarians think the problem Is the government and whereas the government is the executor
		of the problems.
		The problem is the actual people that you live with that want to use the government
		to oppress you or take your property or hurt you.
		And we're seeing now that they're actually becoming more and more successful based on
		politics based on the political affiliation whether it be Alex Jones or whether it be
		Donald Trump or whether it be Roger Stone or any of the number of people that have been
		you know wrongly or you know I forget I'm losing the word but accused of things with
		a tenuous amounts of evidence or whatever that's that's that's become a norm.
		And so there are a lot of people that want to use the government to hurt other Americans.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I get, I can make the argument like if they've done something wrong, restitution, but like, These things have have collateral damage.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So it's the families that weren't involved in this Sandy Hook thing that we're working at companies owned by Alex Jones, like, yo, you drop bombs, you got to be careful, the collateral, you know, the collateral is acceptable, because it's guilt by association, there's no to them, you're not collateral.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You're just as liable as Alex Jones, because you're close to him.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I understand that state of mind, but it's not a scalable state of mind, because if everyone on earth is collateral to your mission, and you're willing to kill them all to get your gold, then you've failed as a human.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We have to take care of the innocent.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I understand what you're saying, but I feel like the thing you're missing is, they don't care.
		I don't know who they are.
		The people that would use the government, the people that would use the law to oppress their political opponents.
		The goal is oppression.
		The goal of putting Donald Trump on trial is to oppress him, is to use the government to hurt him.
		The goal of putting Alex Jones and all the people surrounding him on trial and trying to take his money is to harm him.
		It's not about justice.
		It's about punishing them for having the wrong ideas.
		We have long ago left the...
		The time when the government was not used as a political cudgel against your political opponents.
		That is a reality of today, and that's literally the reason why people like Oren McIntyre say things like, use the government against the left.
		And to be honest with you, I mean, I have a hard time coming up with a good argument against that.
		Not saying that I endorse it, but I have a hard time saying, well, you can't because of blah blah blah, because all of the arguments that I have, They're not compelling and they'll be tossed out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that is a great way to wrap up for the night.
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		We'll just start with Jim.
		You want to shout anything out?
unidentified		Yeah, definitely.
		I'm at WashingtonExaminer.com.
		You can follow me on X at Jim Antle.
		Right on.
		I'm on X at Jeremy Kaufman.
		I'm a New Hampshire maximalist.
		You gotta come to New Hampshire if you're a libertarian.
		Didn't show it enough on this show, but you need to.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You doing Porkfest?
unidentified		I will be there all next week.
unidentified		It's gonna be fun.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So can people just get a ticket and go to Porkfest?
unidentified		Yeah, you can get a ticket and still come.
		So if you're in the New Hampshire area or you want to come up to New Hampshire, Porkfest.com.
		It's a week-long libertarian festival.
		Even if you only come up for a couple of days, it's very affordable.
		And I will be there all next week, anyone who wants to meet me.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		P-O-R-C Pork?
unidentified		You are so much better at my job than I am.
		P-O-R-C-F-E-S-T.com.
		Thank you, Ian.
		Ian, number one Free State recruiter.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		My pleasure.
		Also, great, lively show.
		Awesome.
		Good to see you guys.
		So let's do this again sometime.
		I'm Ian Crossland, and check me out, iancrossland.net.
		That'll portal you to all my stuff.
		I'll see you later.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I am PhilThatRemains on Twix.
		I'm PhilThatRemainsOfficial on Instagram.
		The band is All That Remains.
		You can catch us this summer on tour with Megadeth and Mudvayne on the Destroy All Enemies Tour starting August...
		Second, going through until September 29th.
		Our brand new single is available right now.
		It's called Let You Go.
		You can check it out on Spotify, Apple Music, Pandora, Amazon Music, Deezer, and YouTube.
		And don't forget, the left lane is for crime.
unidentified		So far, man.
unidentified		Cheers, y'all.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We'll see you all with clips throughout the weekend and then we're back on Monday.

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