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Biden's BRAIN BREAKS, Tries To WANDER OFF At G7 Summit, HES GONE w/Mike Benz | Timcast IRL
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unidentified
It happened again.
tim pool
This time at the G7 summit, where Joe Biden is supposed to be asking China to calm down, stop supporting Russia.
We need to stop the expansion of war.
At a skydiving demonstration, he seems to completely disassociate from what's going on, turn around, and then start wandering off in a random direction.
Yo, it's the weirdest thing.
And then, I think it was Italy's prime minister runs over and grabs him to, like, turn him around, and he's just, like, completely confused and lost.
Man, coming off of that other video where everyone's dancing and he's just frozen and just like completely out of his mind, now some people are saying, is this really the big news?
And I got to say, we have concerns.
Donald Trump is slamming the Biden administration and Biden himself over Russian naval vessels off the coast of Florida.
Joe Biden at the G7 is supposed to be representing the United States, and one of the big issues is talking to China to get them to back off of Russia to stop the escalation of conflict so this doesn't turn into World War III, and the dude is just not there.
So I don't know, I mean, maybe we got someone else there who has no authority and they're not going to respect, but this is it.
The other big, big news, this is a really big story.
Apparently, the Sandy Hook families have filed to seize Alex Jones' ex-account, calling it a customer list.
And this is...
I mean, this is huge.
They outright say in the news article, the goal is to prevent Alex Jones from being able to ever promote another venture.
This is not about defamation.
This is about destroying InfoWars and Alex Jones and making it so he can never work in media again.
So we'll talk about that, plus a bunch of other stories that are pretty weird.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Mike Benz.
mike benz
Thanks for having me.
tim pool
Who are you?
What do you do?
mike benz
Mike Benz.
I'm the executive director of Foundation for Freedom Online.
It's a free speech nonprofit.
We're sort of a watchdog of the censorship industry.
And so I basically specialize in stopping internet censorship.
tim pool
Right on.
Should be interesting talking about the Alex Jones stuff then.
So thanks for hanging out.
We got Chris Carr hanging out.
unidentified
What's up?
chris karr
I'm Chris Carr, I'm the executive editor at scnr.com, that's Scanner News, and I'm joined by the outstanding...
hannah claire brimelow
I'm so excited that Chris Carr is on.
We don't get to do the show enough together.
I'm also from SCNR.com.
That's Scanner News.
You can follow all of our work at TimCastNews.
And if you hate my articles, send hate to Chris on Twitter.
Hi, Serge.
unidentified
Hey, what's up?
Let's get started.
tim pool
Here we go.
It's the big story from the New York Post.
Biden wanders away at G7 summit before being pulled back by Italian prime minister.
This video is wild.
It's already got 10 million views because We're all deeply concerned about the mental capacity of the President of the United States.
Here you go.
Here's the video.
Oh, is there no audio on this?
Or is our audio just not turned on?
Is our audio on?
Okay, I guess it's just no audio.
Here you go.
Here's Joe Biden, and he just, for no reason, starts wandering off.
unidentified
And you can see her get more and more concerned, try to act like it's casual.
tim pool
And then she has to grab him and pull him back in, like... Yeah, face in the water.
Look at his face.
He doesn't even know what's going on.
They make excuses for him every step of the way.
He has no idea what is happening around him.
He's just gone, man.
And, uh, what does everybody say?
It's elder abuse.
This went up today at 1pm.
It's got 10.4 million views already.
But then, of course, there's this video.
You probably saw this one.
This is when Joe Biden was... I don't know how you describe this.
this I'll just play it for you my favorite part
OK, so for those that are just listening, you got all these people, they're dancing, they're smiling, they're clapping.
And Joe Biden is frozen.
And look at his arms.
That's the weird thing.
His arms are like slightly sticking out and bent and not moving.
But here's the best part.
unidentified
Watch this.
tim pool
This is the weirdest part of this video.
Biden grimaces and then looks over to the guy next to him like he's really pissed off.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and what do we call him?
Second gentleman?
Doug is looking, you can see that he's looking past Kamala at Joe Biden like, you okay?
What are you doing here?
mike benz
I saw the funniest caption on this.
It was the hey, these edibles aren't working.
unidentified
20 minutes later.
hannah claire brimelow
I have no rhythm, so there's a level where I can understand maybe standing still when everyone else is able to keep up with some kind of tempo, but it doesn't look like he is present.
It doesn't look like he even knows the emotional reaction he's supposed to be having to this event.
chris karr
He walks around with a death mask, like the same horrifying death mask you imagine on a dying person.
And did you all see the video where he saluted Maloney?
tim pool
He saluted?
chris karr
He saluted her, yeah, at the G7 today.
tim pool
He's just gone!
It's crazy because we've talked about his cognitive failures before, but we are well beyond whatever.
I mean, we played that video—I should probably pull it up again—we were talking about U.S.
weapons in Ukraine, and he can't say more than a few words without going out of breath.
I think whatever drugs they got pumped into his veins are not working anymore, and they know it.
mike benz
It's kind of like a low power mode on a computer or something, because I actually think if you were to put him in a debate, he would be able to summon the power to be able to actually be somewhat formidable, but that he sort of gets that by being in effectively sleep mode for the other 98% of the day, and he's sort of like a device that is is old and worn out and just has to conserve that.
But he, you know, this is one of these things where people have said that about Biden for a long time.
I remember the Paul Ryan debate where Mitt Romney was looking like he was on track to potentially beat Barack Obama.
He won the first debate.
And then Biden, who everyone associated with being sort of I'm going to play this clip.
This is the interview he had with David Muir.
I don't know exactly what this clip is, right?
the Obama campaign and you know I wouldn't I wouldn't underestimate that
aspect of Biden still having a heartbeat but but these are definitely funny.
tim pool
I'm gonna play this clip this is the interview he had with David Muir I don't
know exactly what this clip is right so we know that at some point in the
interview on ABC News he mentions he gets asked by Muir about US
weapons being authorized to be used in Russia.
And he sounds absurdly out of breath.
So what I did was I searched for the clip just now and I grabbed a random segment from the interview, which I've not, I don't know where it's specifically at, but I'm going to play it.
Let's, let's hear how Biden sounds.
unidentified
Lost on us where we are today with these brave young American sons did 80 years ago.
And we know what we're witnessing in the world right now.
The wars, the deep divisions at home.
What do you think these American heroes can teach us right now about meeting this moment?
Stand up.
Tell the truth.
Serve your country.
You know, imagine what they had to come through.
I was here 30 years ago, came in on a landing craft.
You could see from out there what they saw here.
The idea that they got off those boats.
Man, that one was not the worst, but that was pretty bad.
sinking and then I come across that beach as long as it's just astounding
it's astounding what it says to me is how critical alliances are how critical
alliances are for our security.
tim pool
Man that one was not the worst but that was pretty bad you can hear his heavy breathing.
hannah claire brimelow
He sounded like that when he was throughout that stop in Normandy.
He was addressing like kind of a gaggle of reporters at one point.
It had this like breathy, almost to the point where I had to like check to see if he has a history of asthma, which I think maybe he does.
Like if you're having some kind of weird allergic reaction.
I don't know.
It was odd, but it's also not From a 40-year-old.
the change that I always see in Biden. I feel like his voice has gotten lower. He doesn't have the
same cadence that you see from even when he was running with Obama. But that one in particular,
it was just so odd and sort of all of a sudden it seems to have gone away.
unidentified
He's concerned me for 40 years.
He's not a decent man.
He's a dictator.
And he's struggling to make sure he holds this country together while still keeping this assault going.
We're not talking about giving them... Yo, it's crazy.
tim pool
You can hear him.
Every step of the way.
hannah claire brimelow
It's weird.
The thing that I find interesting about the debate is – so what I was reading today was that basically Biden doesn't – hasn't started debate prep.
He's got, what, two weeks until he's supposed to debate Trump and he's kind of back-to-back booked.
He's in Italy right now.
He's supposed to go to California for a big fundraiser and then return and have like 10 days to do debate prep.
Now he's a career politician.
He's been in debates before.
Maybe he doesn't need it.
But on the other hand, like It doesn't seem like he is the same Biden that was in the Senate, that was in Obama.
And so I just wonder how do you prepare someone like this for the debate?
Is it like you're saying you just have to hope that he has enough energy, you let him rest?
Or is it like you have to make sure he has key talking points he has to go back to every single time to be able to stay kind of punchy?
tim pool
No, I think they know that there's nothing left.
And I can't remember who tweeted this.
Man, I feel bad.
They said that they're going to sink Biden, but they're going to focus everything in terms of the shadow campaign, mail-in ballots, on senators and members of Congress so that they can impeach Trump and target Trump, go after him that way, because they're not going to win the presidency.
mike benz
Yeah, it's interesting seeing his failing memory because there's, you know, there's a quote that, if you're an honest man, you don't need a good memory.
And I'm almost sort of, I sometimes flirt in my head with thinking about, you know, the Biden family intrigues are so vast.
They go back such a long time.
Biden, you know, before he was president, before he was the vice president for Obama, he spent 40 years on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
Which is really the, you know, the Senate arm of the American empire on every continent.
And it's essentially, it's got oversight over the State Department.
And the State Department essentially has oversight over the intelligence community.
His own family is involved in it a thousand different ways.
He's a guy who's basically an international dealmaker who Half of his life is diplomacy, the other half is sort of duplicity about that diplomacy.
There's a lot of lies you need to keep straight, a lot of stories you need to be able to sort of tell to different audiences about the same fact pattern.
And I kind of feel like when you live that life for so long, you don't really age gracefully with a good memory because you can't keep your own lies straight.
tim pool
He doesn't know when he lied and what he lied about?
chris karr
And it doesn't matter, ultimately, because the corporate press is going to run cover for him.
But the thing is, I think that at this point in his life, he's sort of running on the fumes of his 50 years in government, and he's still kind of like mastered, substantless speech, even though he can barely speak or get it out.
There's no substance to what he says, and it's just second nature for him.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, he can kind of convert into or like shift into a gear where it's like, I'm addressing a crowd.
And when you heard him at the gun rally, he's like, knows how to build to a point and then see something kind of colloquial.
But again, I just don't think that...
If you're a young voter, right, you didn't see him, you know, when he was involved in different hearings in the Senate, you didn't see him before, you maybe remember him as the VP.
Do you look at him and think, strong, capable leader, definitely able to convince me to vote for him?
No.
I mean, it's concerning to me that he's at the G7 summit.
He's supposed to be negotiating all kinds of stuff and making all kinds of deals and, you know.
Shout out to the Prime Minister of Italy for just sort of escorting him back to the fold.
I mean, he needs a handler always, and that's not exactly what you want in your world's leader.
tim pool
I mean, when you look at the leaders of Europe, when you look at what's going on with NATO, the United States has become an appendage, a vassal state of this international organization that will do whatever it wants.
You've got international volunteers.
I mean, jeez.
In Ukraine, fighting the war, flying the Ukrainian flag.
They're not Ukrainian, but they're fighting there.
Who's paying them?
What are they doing this for?
They're not doing it for free.
If they are, okay, well then I stand corrected.
Volunteers.
There's something else there.
Joe Biden's brain don't work.
This country is running effectively as, I don't know, we are being forced along by a corrupt Congress that won't do anything, an executive branch that doesn't exist, and a Supreme Court that can barely get its head straight half the time.
I mean, Roberts doesn't even know what he's doing.
And then you've got the liberal justices like Ketanji Brown-Jackson who doesn't even know what a woman is.
We desperately need to make this country great again.
And there's a lot of people who are like, that's that, you know, the country was never great, blah, blah, blah.
And I'm like, dude, I don't know, man.
Look, I guess great could be a semantic definition where everything that threshold is.
How about functional?
Make America functional, MAFA.
Make America functional again.
Because wow, this is like, Joe Biden shows up to the G7 summit and it's like he's not even there at all.
He's just bumbling about, confused.
He is incapable of actually doing the job as the president.
And I'll shout out, you know, you get these Democrats like Harry Sisson, he made this video, and he's like, if you want a better economy, you gotta vote for Biden, blah, blah, blah.
And I'm like, dude, you know, look, man, anybody who's voting for Trump or Biden on legislative issues, I gotta let you know something.
It's called Congress.
They handle legislative issues.
The president, of course, signs laws and can work with Congress.
But the real reason to vote for a president is they negotiate for the country.
For Donald Trump, it's because of foreign policy.
That's the big factor in who you're voting for for president.
Now, Trump's got better economic policy, trade policy, border policy.
That is what the executive branch does.
Biden has none, and he's not there.
His brain's gone.
mike benz
Yeah, it's interesting because Joe Biden's moniker in Washington from the 1980s until he was vice president was Mr. Foreign Policy, you know, because he sat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and he was the chairman of it and the ranking member.
So Biden's whole strong, in fact, you can look up some of these articles from when Biden was running for president.
The main force behind him was the U.S.
foreign policy establishment, the stakeholders that we have who coast off of the activities
of our State Department, our Pentagon and intelligence services.
Great example of that is BlackRock.
BlackRock everyone sort of knows for their $10 trillion of assets under management, but
that's their global firm, which has portfolio companies operating in every country on earth.
And Biden actually hemmed and hawed a lot before he actually ran for president.
He didn't really go forward with it.
According to I think the New York Times who published this, a January 2019 meeting at
BlackRock HQ with Larry Fink, BlackRock pledged their support behind him.
And basically, one of Biden's top advisors in the White House is one of the Donilon brothers, Tom Donilon, the brother of the main advisor in the White House.
Tom Donilon is a former military guy, former intelligence guy, former State Department guy.
He did the hat trick and now he runs the investment arm of BlackRock.
So you have Joe Biden's top advisor being the brother of BlackRock with $10 trillion of assets under management, many of which are in Ukraine.
tim pool
And a brain that doesn't function?
mike benz
Well, I think the Donilon Brothers' brains function, and I think that they don't want a president.
I think actually Biden is ideal, because if you were to have a popular president, they tend to be charismatic, they tend to have thoughts of their own.
hannah claire brimelow
No personality is better that way.
mike benz
It is, as long as you win the vote, then they'll be compliant.
The issue is there's this trade-off where they need to sort of get them up to a certain
point and it's hard to think of another Democrat who will be as not there, as have no ideas
of their own, no vision of the world, no principles of their own.
You know, Biden, when in the 1990s, he had a quote where he described himself as a prostitute.
Now, he was saying this in the context of how unfair it is as a senator if you don't come from means, because he said he bragged that he was the poorest person.
He was the poorest person in Congress when he won in his, whatever, 29 years of age,
or he was very young when he came to Congress.
And he was complaining that you need to sell out to donors, you need to prostitute yourself,
and that he himself was effectively did that.
And then he becomes chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
Well, who is he prostituting himself out to?
To that same foreign policy establishment.
And to Tim's point about Trump running on foreign policy, it's precisely for that that
they're coming after him.
The Ukraine impeachment, the Russiagate FBI investigation, the Soros prosecutors, and the Soros global interests behind the present lawsuits.
tim pool
I want to give a quick shout out to Power Wheels CD in the chat who said Trojan Corpse.
I thought that was a pretty good one.
Let's let's jump to the story of the Daily Mail.
This is the greatest poll I have ever seen done.
I am so excited for this and I can't believe they actually did this poll.
JL Partners polled 500 likely voters about the upcoming debate.
Half of voters expect Biden to forget where he is during first debate in Atlanta and walk off the stage on the wrong side.
That's an amazing poll.
Could you imagine a pollster calls you and is like, hi, we're here about the presidential election.
Do you think Joe Biden will forget where he is and wander off the stage in the wrong direction?
Half of them said yes!
This is awesome.
So, 79% expect Trump to interrupt Biden.
unidentified
Agreed.
tim pool
70% expect Biden to mess up his words.
Mm-hmm, yes.
Trump to tell a rambling story.
61%.
Now that, I don't know if I get.
hannah claire brimelow
He loves a good aside.
I feel like he has a couple moments where he's like... But at a rally, maybe.
I think rambling story is charged language.
He does like to tell some stories.
tim pool
At a rally, though, not a debate.
hannah claire brimelow
You know, but you can control the time if you want to fill up time.
tim pool
Trump's mic to be cut off, 54%.
See, that's the issue.
They're saying there's going to be like a hard time limit and they're going to cut mics when it limits up.
It's ridiculous.
49% expect Biden to forget where he is.
41% think he'll walk off the wrong side of the stage.
And 40% think he will have problems standing up.
Didn't they want chairs?
unidentified
I think they did at one point, but I don't know if it- Was that- I don't know if that was- I think they wanted to chair something.
mike benz
Might as well do hospital beds at this point.
hannah claire brimelow
They were like, we just would like it to be virtual and pre-recorded.
mike benz
Well, what's interesting about this, too, is they have a stipulated agreement that Trump's mic will be cut off if he interrupts.
That was one of the stipulated terms because they were so afraid of Trump's sort of pithy Arnold Schwarzenegger-type comments like, because you'd be in jail.
And Trump does have that sort of one-liner quality.
I think it's good as a meme, but I don't think Trump really is prone to rambling.
And again, they fear Trump interrupting with those because it interrupts a Biden ramble and sort of reveals it for the ramble that it is.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, if the goal of the debate is to be the one who speaks for the most time, who kind of controls the pace, then, you know, being able to sort of outtalk your opponent isn't bad.
You know, again, rambling feels like it might be a sort of biased question.
But, you know, in terms of all of this, do you think that these low expectations for Biden, like the fact that there's even a conversation that he'll exit on the wrong side, it sort of works to his favor because people don't believe he can do it?
So sort of any sort of basic performance is a win for him?
mike benz
I think it totally does.
You know how when they do those Oxford debates, and they determine the winner not by who in the audience agrees with the issue most, but they sort of take a baseline.
Who is on this side of the issue before the debate, and then they measure the winner by who came over to the other side.
You know, whose expectations essentially changed in favor of one versus the other.
And this is another one of these reasons why I just caution not to underestimate Biden in a debate context.
And I go back to the low power mode because even the videos that we watched, that was Biden when he was at one of these, one of a million of these perfunctory presidential things.
You're in the garden, you're watching a paraglider.
Okay, I need to just, you know, smile for the camera.
But in your head, you're thinking about everything else you have to think about as president.
And there's so many of those functions that are perfunctory.
I would not be surprised if behind closed doors, Low power mode comes off and we need to be sharp for an hour or two.
And I do expect that in the debate.
hannah claire brimelow
You expect him to sort of tighten up in time?
mike benz
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, but is that sort of a low expectation for voters that we can get Biden to be high performing for an hour or two of the day?
I mean, there's no doubt that being the president of the United States is a demanding job.
I remember seeing those before and after pictures of Obama who had gotten very gray.
You know, it's I can't imagine that the demands time travel Well, there's another aspect of this that I find interesting that's sort of related, which is the lack of celebrity endorsements in the summer of an election season.
mike benz
You know, part of this is because while it doesn't necessarily cripple Biden to be so absent and to be so sort of easily Dunkable on for these kind of moments.
The total absence of charisma makes it hard for people to tell their own audiences to go out for this person without looking either profoundly uncool or looking like a naked shill because what do you really see in this person because there's nothing really to go on.
And Biden doesn't do press conferences.
Trump did press conferences every single day during coronavirus and he was probably the most accessible press person.
Biden does not do public press conferences.
In the limited context that he does every couple months, it's a couple of questions, none of them adversarial, and tightly controlled.
And what I find really interesting is typically, you know, they say that politics is Hollywood for ugly people.
that politicians aren't necessarily highly charismatic by nature,
but if they are up to a certain point, celebrities can kind of do the rest.
And right now, there is almost no, I mean, you have a couple of these, the De Niro's,
but we're used to seeing, I mean, remember in 2016, the tapes of 100 celebrities,
you could do a two-hour supercut of all the musicians, the actors,
every field of entertainment and academia and cultural celebrity coming out for Hillary Clinton.
They did the same thing with Obama.
They did the same thing with Bill Clinton.
But this election season, it's almost on mute.
tim pool
So there's actually a list of endorsements on Wikipedia.
Joe Biden, I noticed something interesting.
Joe Biden doesn't have a doesn't have categories for like celebrities.
It just has notable individuals.
And so it mentions Mark Hamill, Whoopi Goldberg, George Conway, Stephen Colbert, George Clooney, J.J.
Abrams.
There's a good amount here, right?
hannah claire brimelow
George Clooney, Obama, and Julia Roberts are hosting this fundraiser.
tim pool
Yeah, and you've got Steven Spielberg, Martin Sheen, I don't know, Matthew Iglesias.
Congratulations, you're listed as well.
But when you go over to Trump's, He actually has so many, it breaks them down into political operatives, actors, musicians, sports figures, religious figures, and activists and public figures.
So certainly Trump has substantially more than Joe Biden does.
Biden does have his celebrity endorsements, but...
They actually, like, when you look at the list of endorsements for Joe Biden, I mean, how many of these are actually, okay, how many actors do we have?
Let's see, one, two, three, uh, do-do-do-do, let's go, let's go, let's go, four, um, five, oh, Eva Longoria, uh, six, seven, eight, he's got a, he's got a, nine, ten, 11, 12... Kim, how many of these are A-list actors that were in a movie this year?
I mean, like, all of those... Yeah, but to be fair, I mean, like, Dean Cain and, like, Kevin Sorbo, they're doing, like, parallel economy stuff.
chris karr
That's exactly what I was going to say, was what you're talking about, is that I don't think these celebrities have the same cultural clout that they used to.
Like, we're in a totally different landscape than we were in 2016.
Their endorsements really don't matter that much.
Maybe it does at an L.A.
fundraiser with Julia Roberts and George Clooney, but culturally speaking, I don't think they're relevant.
tim pool
But take a look at this, right?
So if we look at Joe Biden for... Let's look at, like, music.
Okay, who does... Let's see if he has any names in here that we can actually be like, oh, wow.
chris karr
Lenny Kravitz.
tim pool
Where's Lenny Kravitz?
chris karr
Well, the AP wrote about this yesterday.
tim pool
Yeah, but Lenny Kravitz is a Gen X. He's not... He's not a big deal right now.
I mean, shout out, whatever.
He's all right.
Lizzo's popular with... Lizzo's on the list.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, she is.
tim pool
Okay, well, there you go.
Alright, what's her name?
chris karr
Most of the rappers are supporting Trump.
tim pool
But when you look at Trump, you've got Azealia Banks, Benny the Butcher, Kodak Black, Orgeato Blow, Waka Flocka Flame.
I do like that they included Naked Cowboy.
DaBaby, Aaron Lewis, Ted Nugent's also a bit older, Lil Pump, Sexy Red.
mike benz
And Snoop Dogg even reversed his position on Trump, did you see that?
Who, if you remember, held up a, you know, did a music video essentially shooting Trump in the head or holding a gun to Trump's head when he ran the first time.
He actually came out a couple weeks ago and said, I got nothing but love for Trump.
And, you know, basically effectively all but did a formal endorsement.
tim pool
So who does he got for sports?
He got Andrew Tate as sports figures.
I do love that.
I feel like Trump's, it's not like the lists are, Trump's list is obviously bigger, but Trump's got more relevant figures than Biden does.
But I think that's kind of just obvious.
When you look at the polling, when you look at public sentiment, it leans slightly towards Trump in a lot of different ways.
Not that it matters because all that really matters is whether or not Republicans can figure out how to win an election.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, it is interesting because typically Democrats lean on Hollywood and celebrities to say we are the cool, youthful party.
I remember in 2020 at their convention, they had Billie Eilish perform.
And at the time, she was really on her come up.
You know, she'd been huge during during COVID and everything.
And, you know, maybe young celebrity starlets are just not interested in endorsing Biden, although we know that they are.
They tend to be politically active.
I'm thinking of Olivia Rodrigo, the pop singer.
handing out the equivalent of Plan B at her concerts.
Like, they have political positions, but for whatever reason, it's not translating this
cycle into Biden endorsements, even from what I can see people who have endorsed him in
the past.
I'm going to speak specifically about Taylor Swift here.
chris karr
Read my mind.
Yeah, they can't get Taylor yet.
tim pool
Also, I'll just shout out the rest of the list includes like Kimberly Guilfoyle, Jackson
Hinkle, Charlie Kirk, Carrie Lake.
You got Malik Obama.
You got me, Jack Posobiec, Amber Rose, Scott Pressler's on the list.
So, I don't know, man.
Whatever, I guess.
mike benz
Well, this is really where I see the low-power mode, though, coming into it more so than in the debate, in the sense that look at what Trump is doing today with Logan Paul, a 90-minute interview.
You know, Nelk Boys, like 60, 90 minutes.
I think what's hurting Biden about this kind of low-power mode and then save it for an hour or two of the day is that you can't do these kind of media tours and these kind of, you know, the media blitz of connecting with all these celebrities.
They can't get together to produce a video, to produce an interview, to do a little song together.
He can't hit the road and do four cities to go to L.A.
for this, to New York for that, and Chicago for this, whereas Trump is flying four or five cities a day.
That was one of the things that Democrats were arguing was so great about the trial is that it hemmed Trump down physically in the trial room.
So that he couldn't go out and do the blitz that brings you the hearts and minds.
And so I actually think part of the celebrity endorsement drought in the Biden election cycle here is the fact that he has to be on low power mode so much.
He can't expend the energy to do these high profile, have to be present, have to deliver.
Because now you are in front of the cameras, in front of all their audiences.
You actually have to be on point.
And so he's cut off from that, and I think part of that also has to do with a kind of left-wing civil war on the Israel-Palestine thing, where because of that issue dividing the left, a lot of celebrities don't necessarily want to endorse Biden, because not only do they need to fear a Bud Light-style right-wing boycott, but their left-wing flank might, half of their base maybe, Yeah, you're making me think of, I'm going to go back to talking about pop culture.
hannah claire brimelow
Chapel Rowan, this pop star who's really popular right now, she's really coming up, I think she was at the Governor's Ball in New York, this music festival, and she said the Biden administration asked her to come to the White House and perform during Pride, and she was like, no, and seemed to say basically because of the Israel-Palestine thing.
Which is fascinating, right?
I mean, one of the things the media talked about constantly when Trump was in office was how many of the, you know, sports teams that would win whatever tournament, you know, whether it's Super Bowl or whatever it was, refused to come meet Trump because he was bad, I guess, or whatever.
And now it seems like This is starting to happen in the Democrats' backyard, in Hollywood, in the music industry.
They're saying, well, I don't want to be associated with Biden because either I personally don't believe him or he's too controversial because of the stances he's taken on this international conflict.
chris karr
I'm wondering if it might be like a really smart strategic move on their behalf to just keep him out of the media tour, like Trump is on.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, if he only has an hour a day, yeah.
chris karr
Well, not just that, because like, think about it.
I mean, he doesn't, well, as you pointed out, he's not a free thinker.
You know, he doesn't have any sort of personality to offer anybody.
The people are going to vote for him anyway, or have been ideologically compromised for what, at least eight years now, probably longer.
So who is he really advocating to support him?
He's already got the support that he is going to get.
Nothing he's going to say on a media tour is going to necessarily bolster that.
hannah claire brimelow
Right.
I think part of it is if you send him on a media tour, people are going to be like, I have questions about this policy you put out and I don't think they want to answer to the record they currently have.
chris karr
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story from Reuters.
This is huge news.
Sandy Hook families want to seize Alex Jones's social media accounts.
This is wild.
Families of the Sandy Hook massacre victims want to seize Alex Jones's social media accounts in his bankruptcy, saying that the conspiracy theorists' frequent posts to fans are a key part of the Infowars business being liquidated to pay Jones's debts.
Jones filed bankruptcy protection 17 months ago, has given up on trying to reach a settlement that would reduce the $1.5 billion that he owes to the relatives of 20 students and six staff members that killed in the 2012 mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut.
I don't know if that's true.
I think Alex Jones may have contested that, saying they're reporting this, but that's
not the case, but I don't know.
They're going to say, the families on Wednesday asked a US bankruptcy judge in Houston, Texas
to additionally take control of Jones' X.com account and prevent Jones from using it to
promote new business ventures.
They say it's, quote, no different than a customer list of any other liquidating business.
First, I will stress that you don't own your social media accounts.
X owns it, and they grant access to Alex to use that... That's the terms of service and agreements.
They would have to seize access, not from Alex, but from Elon Musk.
I don't see this ever happening, but this is an insane move.
They argue that Jones has used a social media account to push down the value of InfoWars by diverting sales from that site to his father's drjonessnaturals.com, which sells health supplements and other products.
Quick question, is Alex Jones' dad a doctor?
hannah claire brimelow
I'm gonna google that right now.
tim pool
Dr. Jones is natural.
hannah claire brimelow
It's just like a doctor philosophy.
chris karr
That does seem right.
I think I read that somewhere.
tim pool
His dad's a doctor?
chris karr
Yeah.
I think I read that in Shane's profile of Alex Jones, as a matter of fact.
tim pool
So they say a bankruptcy judge is scheduled to hear the family's demand at a Friday court hearing in Houston.
The judge is expected to convert Alex Jones' bankruptcy case from a Chapter 11 to a Chapter 7 liquidation.
Jones claimed for years the Sand Hill killings were staged.
He did later then say he didn't think that was correct.
Jones has estimated that he has less than $12 million in assets, meaning that he will carry an enormous legal debt even after Infowars and his other assets are sold.
hannah claire brimelow
Alex Jones' dad is apparently a dentist.
tim pool
Oh, wow, look at that.
So he is a doctor, specializing in dentistry.
So he's a doctor.
Dr. Jones' Naturals.
This is not about restitution.
Shutting down InfoWars doesn't actually get them any money.
If they're going to be filing, they should be filing to say, we get X amount garnished off of InfoWars revenue per month or something like that.
Taking his Twitter account from his ex-account from him?
They're literally just saying, like, no longer can this man speak in public.
It's an impossible thing they're doing.
There's literally nothing they can do.
Alex can make a new ex-account tomorrow, and tweet one time with a video of him talking, and it's gonna skyrocket.
I don't even know how they seize a social media account.
But this is wild.
I suppose, considering we're moving closer to the election, we're gonna see more I don't know, man.
I guess the question is, do we see more censorship attempts like this?
mike benz
Well, this is absolutely...
Terrifying, mortifying, stupefying.
It's brutal to watch what they're doing to Alex.
On top of that, you know, I see this potentially being a Supreme Court issue three years from now because this gets to the fundamental question of what is a social media account.
This is almost an extension of the Section 230 debate about platforms versus publishers.
If a social media account is a business asset And can essentially be rolled up in bankruptcy.
This gives the censorship industry a brand new tool everywhere, anywhere to take out an opposing voice simply by driving them into bankruptcy and seizing the account.
So which is to say that Anybody who, because in this case it's gross because it's a billion dollar debt, but what happens if you're bankrupt?
Because if you have to declare, you know, Chapter 7 or Chapter 11 because you're $100,000 over the hole when they do the seizure.
because you're a hundred thousand dollars over the hole when they do the seizure.
If they can, any lawsuit that you're unable to compensate on, if the precedent is now that
they can take your ex account, this will be gamified to take down basically everyone, anyone.
Anytime you've got a bad investigative journalist writing about your company, or your financial institution, or your political candidate, now, boom, operation mode.
How can we get rid of this?
Well, we tried going to the platforms.
We got them banned on Instagram.
We got them de-boosted on YouTube.
They still have their ex-account?
Okay, well, what if we do lawfare, force them to file a Chapter 7?
Then we know, because we've got legal precedent, that we can just seize it from them.
So, I think the issue is, what is a social media account?
If it is a platform, You're never going to be able to stop Alex Jones.
There's nothing they can do about it.
They'll file all of these things every day and night, and let's say they get his ex-account.
And this is something that I think we should all support the side of freedom on.
tim pool
You're never going to be able to stop Alex Jones.
There's nothing they can do about it.
They'll file all of these things every day and night.
And let's say they get his ex account.
Let's say they get all of his accounts.
Then he makes a new account.
mike benz
But then they seize the new account.
tim pool
And they sure do.
And then he makes a new account.
And then it gets better.
Then some random guy on the street named Joe Schmo makes an account and says, wow, Alex Jones is standing right here.
I'm going to film him.
And now Joe Schmo's account is getting tons and tons of viewership.
And then they go, what?
They go to Joe Schmo and say, we're seizing your account because you keep playing videos of Alex Jones?
You can't do anything about it.
mike benz
The issue is it does damage, it keeps what would be a burning fire of speech to a low ember constantly.
It's almost like the insurgency strategy, the counterinsurgency strategy that our military uses to contain insurgency movements.
Well, the goal is not to eradicate it completely, but simply to render it functionally ineffective by keeping it at a sort of low-burning ember, where it never has a chance to actually have real influence.
So, it takes time to build up a large platform.
And any time you start to get close to influence, for it to be able to be ripped from you and start back at zero all over again, is very effective.
I mean, it was a game-changer when Elon let... People were trying to do ban evasions all the time.
But it rendered you, and you could still sort of get a Twitter platform for a couple days before someone flagged you, or for a couple thousand followers, or ten thousand, until somebody said, oh, they're evading a ban, this is their alt.
We did not have freedom again until Elon came back in, and I do fear that this strategy could seriously, seriously work.
And this is why this is such a threat in tandem with the fact that the censorship industry right now is plotting seven ways from Sunday how to use legal strategies to get their power back.
They're plotting this with the EU Digital Services Act in order to have this disinformation compliance to spiral back on US companies.
I have clipped countless, hundreds of videos of high-level censorship industry insiders.
In fact, in April this year they had a whole conference on legal solutions to stopping disinformation.
And this new toolkit on the legal side to coerce this, I mean this is just like when Alex got kicked off the social media in 2018 and a lot of people thought, well that's so extraordinary because he's such a big account.
And people were hoping and praying that would just stop there.
And then, you know, that turned out to be a canary in the coal mine.
And I think legally this would be the case if they succeed.
And my fear is because it's Sandy Hook, they will win at the trial court level with some favorable judge.
And now it's going to be in the hands of a, you know, of an appellate court and then a Supreme Court.
And if Biden is able to change the majority of the Supreme Court, we would be looking at a whole new world.
tim pool
Apparently, Alex is saying they're also going after his crew's social media as well.
Now, don't get me wrong, I get it.
This is a bad and psychotic thing.
My point is, there is no point at which you can remove Alex Jones from the sphere.
And, what happens if they seize his ex- Well, first of all, they can't seize his ex- Elon Musk is going to say no.
Just outright no, you can't.
And then, what are they going to do?
Try to get some kind of injunction?
Alex, you're not allowed to log in to ex then.
That makes no sense.
I don't even—sure, a favorable judge and crackpot courts?
That, I believe?
Alex Jones uses X, the court says, you are hereby banned from using X, and he says, I'll do it anyway.
Well, then we're going to hold you in contempt or something for violating the order?
I don't know how they legally pull this off.
mike benz
And thank God, by the way, that Elon understands the importance of the legal here.
I mean, he has fought Australia on their legal prohibitions and won.
He has entered the legal battle against the Center for Countering Digital Hate and against Media Matters and others.
He has a legal defense fund for people who get fired from X. And so, thank God, I mean, in addition to the free speech policies, The actual economic resources behind legal defense, we are in as good a position as you could possibly pray for to be able to take on something like this.
The issue is, at the end of the day, the justice system is kind of the Strait of Gibraltar.
It's a very narrow strait, and if you are ordered by the court At that point I could see hands getting tied and it comes down to judges in a world where we just saw what our judges are doing to people like Donald Trump in New York and what they just did to so many other folks.
So the issue is when justice is politicized this way and you have a political figure like Alex Jones, law almost doesn't exist in this country anymore.
tim pool
I don't think law exists in this country.
hannah claire brimelow
I wonder, too, you're pointing out that if Alex Jones is what he's saying is true, they're going after his crew.
I mean, part of the issue is, you know, Alex Jones might be able to make something else work, but it's part of it is the Sandy Hook lawsuit is sort of now being used to shut down anyone else who's in his sphere, even though they may or may not have been involved with InfoWars at the time of, you know, the incident that kind of set off the conversations or whatever.
And that seems to me to be sort of creeping judicial reach because ultimately it's not about Sandy Hook anymore.
It's not about what was said or not said or anything like that.
It's really about how can we strangle and muzzle what's going on here whether or not we think that the people who are tangentially affected have any actual influence over the situation.
mike benz
Think about this.
Donald Trump had corporate bankruptcies.
They could argue that Donald Trump – I mean, he had multiple corporate bankruptcies.
They could argue that if Donald Trump used his personal account to promote a Trump business, then they can seize Donald Trump's accounts.
Bankruptcies, whether personal or corporate – and again, this is an Infowars bankruptcy.
This is a corporate bankruptcy proceeding.
Corporate bankruptcies happen all the time, every day.
If every single time that happens, the social media account of the individual officers or directors or senior leadership or even staffers are now in play, what this opens up is a strategic field of play for censorship operatives and for political folks.
It's a brand new world.
tim pool
What's to stop John Doe from starting a company called The War for Information and hiring Alex Jones as his host?
What could they do about that?
mike benz
Someone else starting the company and him doing it?
tim pool
A contractor, not even an employee.
He's a contractor who produces content when he feels like producing.
He gets paid $40,000 a year.
mike benz
It's a good question.
I don't know legally how that would work.
I would presume that the lawyers would make the argument that this is a sort of deliberate evasion attempt.
They would probably probe all communications in Discovery or get some sort of court-ordered subpoena to get the text messages and emails to see if they were trying to do a... It's basically like ban evasion, right?
tim pool
Yeah, I get it, but think about what that means.
And I'm not saying it's not going to happen, but that means that a private business that has done nothing wrong that seeks to enter into a private contract with an individual completely outside of the scope of this lawsuit will be targeted with federal harassment.
I do not believe right now that there is functioning law in the United States.
We have roving bans smashing up department stores and stealing everything.
You have people defecating all over the streets in California.
The Westfield Mall has abandoned—the company abandoned their lease, and some of the two of the biggest hotels abandoned their—I'm sorry, not their lease, their debts.
They—what is it?
I forgot what it's specifically called, but they— Surrendered.
They basically told the lender, you know what?
It's yours.
We're out.
Collateral is all yours.
We'll lose the money we have on this.
We are seeing...
Just insane levels of crime, corruption.
You've got the trials in New York.
You've got the Georgia trial.
Fannie Willis.
I mean, this is insane what's happening in Georgia.
Can we just break this down?
They go after Trump and his lawyers, and now the whole case is at risk of being thrown out because the prosecutor's banging another prosecutor she hired, and it's thrown the whole thing into a conflict of interest because they are literally corrupt.
Now you've got to think, it's Wisconsin, right?
Their AG filed charges against Trump's lawyers again.
chris karr
Yes.
tim pool
The level of corruption and extrajudicial attacks that are happening.
And I don't understand why people tolerate it.
Like, I don't understand why Alex Jones or Donald Trump are just going like, well, I guess.
I'm like, I don't know what you do, and I don't have answers, but if like a clown showed up to my doorstep demanding I hand over all of my bananas, I'm going to say, get off my property.
It's psychotic to assume that we know what George is doing is not within the confines of the law.
We know what New York did was not within the confines of the law.
Fact!
We just have rogue police officers pointing guns at people and threatening them.
Those cops in New York that are facilitating that trial against Trump, they should all be in prison.
And heaven forbid I ever get any kind of political power.
Because the first thing I'm doing as president or governor or whatever it might be is All those cops are the first to go to prison for the rest of their lives.
You are not acting within the law.
You have no authority under the law.
Just because a guy claims he's ordered you to do it does not give you the authority to do it and you have broken the law.
But unfortunately...
Donald Trump goes along with it.
Real quick, my argument for Trump was that he should have told Georgia, he should have told New York, you get a legitimate claim to Florida, hand it to Ron DeSantis, put it on his desk, and I will talk to him about whether this is an actual legal proceeding or not.
mike benz
I'm really glad you brought that up, because I've been banging on, and folks who follow me have seen me tweet this every week, every month for the past year, year and a half now, which is that we effectively need a kind of sanctuary state for politically heterodox folks, and in particular, something that I published about last week, which I think, if there are any state assembly members Listening right now, I'm speaking directly to you.
What you can do right now in your state assembly, if you are a state legislator in Florida, in Texas, in Tennessee, in Arkansas, pick your state.
Amend your malicious prosecution law.
Every state has a malicious prosecution law that allows a civil action against a prosecutor who brought the suit Not in the interest of justice, but for a political reason or a malicious reason, and simply broaden that law to apply it to out-of-state prosecutors who target an in-state citizen.
So, for example, if you are a citizen of the state of Florida, you simply say that there is an in-state nexus to the state of Florida when a Georgia prosecutor or a New York prosecutor, now you probably be barred legally from doing this with federal because it's a state, But allow you to bring an in-state action against Alvin Bragg, against Fannie Willis for the malicious prosecution of an in-state person.
This is effectively what Florida and Texas have done with their social media laws that allow now a civil course of action for certain censorship activities.
I agree.
Now those laws are sort of being chewed up in the appeals process currently.
But you can do the same thing for malicious prosecution and allow Donald Trump to then
sue Alvin Bragg and Fannie Willis in front of a Florida jury.
And then we'll see if the same outcome happens.
tim pool
I agree.
I guess the way you'd see it is they file the paperwork, they say to Donald Trump, he
says, don't I don't care.
You talk to law enforcement in Florida.
The moment they say this is legit, we say okay.
Then, with the malicious prosecution laws, under the law in Florida, Trump files and says this is an illegitimate case.
Ron DeSantis and the state police then say we cannot go anywhere near Trump, and this is a dispute between states that has to go to the federal courts.
mike benz
What this would allow is a parallel trial every time this happens.
As New York is doing this trial to New York, well guess what?
Now New York's on trial in Florida under a concurrent malicious prosecution case.
And that, first of all, makes these things very expensive for the state to litigate.
It adds liability for these New York offices.
It basically makes you a porcupine.
So if you want to reach out a state for it, well there goes the money for the New York prosecutors, who don't make very much by the way.
You know, this now makes the city of New York Or the state of New York have to think about its own budget before it goes after an out-of-state person in a prosecutorial way.
And then it allows this concurrent ongoing trial for all this evidence to come out in the Florida trial about how rigged the ongoing New York one is.
tim pool
So, Level Design Operator in chat said, plea asked, that's not the chat I'm looking for, but it was Level Design Operator asking what laws specifically were broken?
So the first thing we have is, and I don't know the degree to which it's criminal, so this is, Level Design Operator says, what laws have they specifically broken in that so-called lawfare endeavor?
So this is clearly malicious prosecution in a variety of ways.
We have multiple cases that are malicious prosecution, and I think any reasonable human being, were it not for the culture war in this country, in a hyper-polarized state, could conclude this.
In New York, they changed the law to allow people to sue another person for sexual assault claims after the statute of limitations, but only for one year.
Only this one small window.
Trump instantly sued on a 30 year old claim that can't be corroborated in any way.
Yet somehow a jury still says yes to anybody who followed that case and went through it
knows the story makes no sense.
It's even been challenged by people on CNN and MSNBC as being weird and making little
sense.
Then you have the criminal fraud trial against Trump's organization, which never committed
fraud.
They claimed that because Trump's filings for loans were incorrect, that's fraud.
Despite the fact that each and every one of those filings to the banks had a disclaimer
that the information may be incorrect and it requires the due diligence of the lender.
The lenders, like Deutsche Bank said, We recognize that we did our due diligence.
We then told Trump his numbers were wrong.
We agreed to give him a lesser amount towards the loan.
Trump agreed.
We all made money from doing this.
If we could, we do business with him again.
Still, Trump found guilty of fraud.
Kevin O'Leary, a realist, a major real estate mogul, said, this is absolutely insane.
No one in New York is safe if this is what they're doing.
Then you get the latest hush money trial.
There's literally no direct evidence that Donald Trump did anything with Stormy Daniels
other than he paid Cohen, who has lied about everything.
Cohen admitted to committing grand larceny in stealing.
They say at bare minimum, 60,000.
But under the defense's premise that Donald Trump had no idea that Cohen took out a loan
on his own home to pay off Stormy Daniels of his own volition, he didn't know that was
That means Cohen stole $250,000, yet they still criminally charge Trump for doing this.
Now, anyone who's run a business knows it makes no sense criminally to go after the CEO for what underlings have done that he's not even signing off on.
You're the CEO of a company.
A mid-level manager says, we're going to pay this lawyer off.
Then another manager says, or your CFO says, pay them off.
And Trump's just like, sure, I'll sign the check.
I don't know, whatever.
It's a legal fee.
Then they come back and say, you're criminally responsible for what those guys did.
None of it makes any sense.
But more importantly, let's go to the malicious prosecution.
Alvin Bragg campaigns, I'm going to get Trump.
I believe Letitia James as well.
You have, in the Hush Money case, it is a misdemeanor charge whose statute of limitations expired years ago.
Falsifying business records, you're not bringing back up eight years later, seven years later.
They claim he was trying to influence an election, but the crime happened after he already won it.
So what did they do?
They said, okay, but if he falsified business records in furtherance of a secondary crime, manipulating the election, then we can upgrade it to a felony.
34, in fact, for each time he signed a check.
What was that underlying crime?
None of us know!
Because the judge said the jury doesn't have to unanimously agree on any underlying crimes, just that they think something did occur, and then Trump is guilty.
Now, here's where it gets great.
Here's the best part.
I could be wrong about this, but I would assume, at the very least, to be a reasonable person, there are very rare circumstances in the United States where a prosecutor goes to a felony suspect and says, if you flip on this misdemeanor, we're gonna let you off.
You got a guy who admitted on the stand to committing grand larceny.
Stealing tens of thousands of dollars.
Openly admitted it.
And they're like, no charges.
But if you help us get this guy who falsified a business record, none of it makes sense and it is all patently obvious malicious prosecution.
Now ask the police officers who facilitate all of this.
I make no distinction and no excuses for anyone just doing their job.
If you are the officer who is kidnapping someone at gunpoint under a perceived authority that does not exist, heaven help you if I'm ever in charge of law enforcement in this country.
If I was the president, the FBI would be at each and every one of their doors, and they'd be like, you're all going to prison.
People say, oh, that's so dictatorial.
What?
That you don't allow cops to, I don't know, how about CBP trafficking children on the border?
Which they're doing, and we know they're doing.
It is dictatorial to stop human trafficking, to stop corrupt cops just doing their jobs.
That's the bare minimum of what legal accountability is supposed to be in this country.
Well, that's where we're currently at.
So how are you guys doing?
mike benz
That's an amazing rant.
And again, to get back to this state legislators watching, anybody who knows a state legislator watching, the beauty of this strategy is simply expanding your malicious prosecutor law, malicious prosecution law in your state is Tim's rant right there is presented to a jury, and the jury simply decides on the basis of a preponderance of evidence standard, because this is a civil tort.
So all you need is a 51% likelihood in the minds of the jury that everything Tim just laid out there renders it malicious.
tim pool
I wonder what it is.
You know, we're at this point where If New York accuses someone of a crime, Florida just says, well, okay.
Complies.
No question.
Nothing.
It seems kind of strange to me.
Yeah, I'm a resident of West Virginia.
Am I supposed to assume that if Nebraska accuses me of a crime that my own police will come and arrest me without evidence because another state claims to have an indictment?
I think that's bunk.
I think we need to move forward with state protection for its residents or perhaps it does exist and I just don't know.
I'm not a lawyer.
mike benz
The issue is, is I would be concerned, and I don't know the specific answer on this, on this either, I would be concerned with that, that because it's a, it's a dispute between states, it would then make it a federal issue and then federal marshals could come in and supersede the state, which is why the sort of malicious prosecution law strategy sort of gets around that through all the costs imposed on the prosecutors and on, and on the DA's office and on, and on the state budget, because even if, if They sort of seize the guy, so to speak.
They're paying, they could be paying, and again, uncapped damages, punitive damages, if you want to throw it in, treble damages, so that you're effectively bankrupting, you know, the DA's office for going after it.
And again, especially, you know, a civil trial tends to take less time.
I could see it having a huge deterrent effect, even if you could not get around the fact that the police or the federal marshals would technically be able to take the person into custody, you know, to Rikers.
You're at least doing that economic devastation in kind, which is currently their strategy to try to take out Trump, because in everything you just laid out, $500 million for Trump on, as you mentioned, on the Mar-a-Lago valuation case.
$100 million on the defamation case.
tim pool
They claimed Mar-a-Lago was worth $18 million.
mike benz
The toilet seat's worth $18 million.
tim pool
Anybody who has driven past Mar-a-Lago knows it's worth more than $18 million.
Not a question.
They are clearly lying.
And again, Trump should put it on Ron DeSantis' desk.
mike benz
The great thing, though, about that, too, is that selective prosecution, because everything you just said, you know, during your, you know, Academy Awards speech on all the ways they, you know, dicked over Trump there, is they had the exact same fact pattern with the Hillary Clinton FEC violation, but they didn't do it.
This selective prosecution is malicious.
I blame the cops.
But having a legal hook to that in state allows you to highlight that selective prosecution.
Instead of just whining in the press, oh, these people are hypocrites, now you get to hit them back in the piggy bank, which is where it really hurts.
tim pool
In this issue, I will say Donald Trump volunteered himself to New York.
Went along with this.
I don't believe he was ever grabbed by police and forced to do anything.
He's not even been held in jail or anything yet.
Should that be the case, that he is given house arrests or anything, then we're talking some very serious crimes in my opinion.
Illegitimate authority.
I do not respect the idea that cops just get to dictate something for no reason.
Not reality.
And I reject it outright.
There's too many conservatives who are like, back the blue, no matter who.
And I'm like, not if they're communists.
Communists join the police forces.
You got them in the West Coast.
You got them in Washington and Oregon.
I'm not going to back the blue.
People are people.
You need legitimate legal authority if you're going to take actions.
Now, when it comes to Georgia, I said Trump should stay in Florida and say, this is not legitimate.
I believe this should be challenged to the federal courts.
There's an election going on.
They're interfering.
And let the federal courts decide.
mike benz
I just don't know if the state of New York could then call in the federal marshals.
tim pool
Put it on DeSantis' desk.
Ron DeSantis then gets the choice to be the man who ordered the arrest of Donald Trump, or he can be the man who said, this must be settled in the courts and you will not enter my state.
mike benz
Yeah, it's interesting.
It's sort of a sequel to the standoff that Texas had around the border situation.
That would test the limits of federalism.
tim pool
Look, what we're seeing is Democrat corrupt forces screaming at the top of their lungs and chasing Republicans and the Republicans are running full speed away.
And I have to wonder if at any point the Republicans were to turn around and scream back, the Democrats might stop where they're standing.
If they try to send in, if they accuse Trump of a crime which is beyond the statute of limitations, has no underlying crime to warrant its upgrade, and then say Trump's wanted in New York, and then Trump says it's clearly illegitimate, even CNN called it an illegitimate case.
I don't recognize it.
Trump could come out and say, I'll tell you this.
Fareed Zakaria went on CNN and said this would not be brought against anybody else, this case.
So I think that's the barometer for the American public to recognize as an illegitimate use of authority.
So here's what I'll do.
New York can send their paperwork to the governor's office of Florida, who can discuss it, and if they make the determination this is a legitimate case, I'll abide by it.
And if they say it's illegitimate, then I expect it to be recognized the same as everyone else recognizes CNN.
mike benz
Well, actually, well, that's sort of the sanctuary state idea that I was I was outlining before the malicious prosecution one, because I think both of these can work in tandem and legislatures should adopt both.
But that essentially creates an in-state political test.
essentially, you can bring in action in state for a determination about, you know, whether
you qualify to essentially be a sanctuary in the same way that, you know, California
and all these different blue states have sort of become these sanctuary states that have
a unique set of laws that protect illegal immigrants.
Then that would be interesting because that might provide a countervailing force to the
threat of bringing in the federal marshals because now you have a state law that protects
that person because of, you know...
But that would start to get into interesting issues there.
But I see that essentially being a sanctuary state for political dissidents.
tim pool
So I suppose the question is this, right?
So the other night I said to Matt Gaetz, at what point do red state AGs, Secretary of State, governors or whatever, start demanding criminal accountability from the Democrats that are engaging in these things?
And he said, is that really what we want?
Extrajudicial, you know, retribution or whatever?
And I never said that.
I'm saying, people are committing crimes.
We need people to be held accountable for it.
Hillary Clinton's campaign was accused of a lot of impropriety.
She was accused of destruction of records.
I have to wonder, her campaign operated in a bunch of different states, right?
Couldn't any one of those states go after Hillary Clinton and the people who worked with her?
They could.
mike benz
I joked about this the other day.
There was the whole Whitewater scandal with the Clintons in Arkansas.
That's a red state.
The Arkansas State Assembly could turn around tomorrow, change the statute of limitations the same way that New York changed the statute, and bring up all their Hillary Clinton crimes from the 1990s.
tim pool
Or any one of those circumstances with Joe Biden.
Any one of these states could do exactly what New York is doing and say, national records are state-level jurisdiction now.
We hereby declare it.
mike benz
Entre-deux business in Texas.
tim pool
Taxes could do it.
They won't.
They won't.
So what's going to happen?
Corrupt federal forces and Democrat forces are going to keep mercilessly, politically, beating people like Donald Trump, and it won't stop.
I'm not even convinced, you know, one of the One of the theories I suppose people are bringing up is that Joe Biden's going to lose.
They know he's going to lose.
The focus right now is winning in Congress and in the Senate.
And when you look at the polling, this is interesting, I pulled up the polling and I asked our good friend ChatGPT, based on current polling trends, what its projection was for the presidency.
Trump wins.
Interesting.
What about the Senate and the House?
ChatGPT, in numerous different simulations, predicted the Democrats will take the Senate and the House.
Should that be the case, expect everyone to be in prison.
Donald Trump will be president, powerless, concrete strapped to his ankles, thrown in the water, and he'll be impeached in two seconds.
Then they're going to start locking up everybody else.
Bannon will go to prison again.
You name it.
They're just going to start locking everybody up because Republicans do nothing and don't care.
mike benz
Well, it'll be interesting, actually.
We might know next week as early about how far Republicans are going to go, because I feel on most things, the same way you just identified, there have been some heartening things, especially recently.
So finally, and this should have been done two years ago, frankly, but there was a contempt motion that passed the House against Merrick Garland.
They found him guilty of contempt and for the same crime that For the same actions that no less than Merrick Garland himself locked up Steve Bannon and Navarro for, Peter Navarro for, which was defying a congressional subpoena, a congressional committee subpoena, for the same reason.
Merrick Garland is citing the defense that he invalidated for Bannon and Navarro.
And my understanding is that Representative Ana Paulina Luna has actually committed that I think there's going to be a sort of final floor vote on the resolution, I believe on June 25th, and that there are two forms of recourse.
One is the Justice Department Honours the Contempt Act and effectively, you know, takes action against him through the Justice Department path.
The other one, if the Justice Department defies Congress, and of course it's Merrick Garland's Justice Department, so you know that's going to be rigged.
But the other option is there's technically a rule that he can be immediately arrested by the House Acting Sergeant-at-Arms.
And so Republicans technically have the chance To do that exact thing, effectively have Merrick Garland be placed in prison the same way Merrick Garland, for the same crime as Merrick Garland placed Steve Bannon last week, you know, in prison or sentenced.
Ordered him to.
Yep.
And so that is, we will know on June 25th or 23rd whether or not there's still fight left in Republicans in Congress.
chris karr
But the overall problem is that Republicans fail to wield power when they have the opportunity, and I can't really quite understand why that is.
Why does that happen?
mike benz
Well, there is a kind of Achilles' heel to the inherent philosophy of the limited government types, which is that, you know, the idea that government should be small, that the private sector, you know, should be the lion's share of what American activity involves, effectively makes State action in inherent evil unto itself almost doctrinally.
And so the act of wielding government power is sort of... And this is something that I think is beginning to change.
There was this kind of strain, I think, around Free enterprise, limited government, Republicanism.
That was more true when the Chamber of Commerce was completely Republican.
The Chamber of Commerce, our major blue chip companies, basically from Truman until Trump were all Republican.
It was basically the main support system that Republicans had against the Democrats
who controlled the unions, the universities, the entertainment industry, the media.
The countervail, the counter pressure from that was that Republicans controlled big corporations, or at least they
were back by, they had the, they had that donor support and that political support, but that changed in the Trump
era. A lot of that has to do with Trump's nationalist policies and his perceived war on globalism.
These are all globalist companies where the lion's share of their business is done in foreign countries, foreign markets for exports, foreign labor for their manufacturing.
And so they preferred a sort of Bush-Biden globalist president type.
They shifted.
That actually, I think, ushered in this kind of coinciding reformation of a lot of current Republican.
We're sort of reforming right now around this idea that actually We shouldn't fear state action as much as we used to.
This free enterprise thing has basically created this tyranny that we're talking about.
The balance has to be restored.
hannah claire brimelow
What do you think the odds are that the Republicans can retake the Senate during the election?
mike benz
Tim, what does ChatGPT say on that?
hannah claire brimelow
Who can retake the Senate?
What are the odds Republicans can get control?
tim pool
When I ask ChatGPT based on current polling and trends, it said Democrats will take both.
hannah claire brimelow
It's interesting because it's like, why?
tim pool
I mean, I don't know if you want to pull up this story, but... 270 to win has Republicans favored to... Right now, it's Republicans to lose.
There's two seats that are toss-ups, and Republicans are expected to take 50 seats, and there are two toss-ups, so it may go 52 to 48.
hannah claire brimelow
So this is why I think Trump's endorsement of Larry Hogan is so interesting, because there's the argument that theoretically Larry Hogan was, I don't know if I'm jumping ahead, but Larry Hogan was such a popular governor that he could potentially deliver Maryland.
tim pool
Yeah, we'll pull the story up.
So we had this from Politico.
Trump supports Hogan's Senate bid after conviction comment.
Trump's support for Hogan could end up hurting the former two-term governor.
Hurting him, huh?
Maybe that was the real play.
So, Hogan's awful.
Anybody lived in Maryland?
Well, not anybody.
He clearly won elections, but we don't like him.
He's trash.
He says he would urge all Americans to respect Trump's guilty verdict in New York.
Hush money case.
I'd like to see him win.
I think it's a good chance to win.
I know other people made some strong statements, but I can just say from my standpoint, I'm all about the party and I'm about the country and I'd like to see him win.
Trump told Fox News, Ayesha Hasni in an interview that has yet to air, Hogan drew the wrath of former president's team after he refused to defend Trump following his conviction on May 30th.
You just ended your campaign.
I hope so.
Hogan's terrible.
I mean, I can't, I don't even understand how he wins in Maryland.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, he just has longstanding support in Maryland.
He just, you know, he was previously the governor.
People, for whatever reason, really like him.
I don't think he's, you know, the Republican that Trump's Republicans like.
But again, to me, it's interesting that Trump is signaling that he would back Hogan for the Senate bid because If you can get, you know, if you can oust the Democrat in
Ohio, you can oust the Democrat in Montana, and you can pick up
Maryland, then you can theoretically tip the Senate in your favor.
And I think that signals a level of strategic thinking from the Trump campaign in terms of
they want to have a really effective win and they want to go in as strong as they can be.
Because I think you're right there.
There are institutions that Republicans controlled historically that they have lost and it's sort of the argument of what can we regain the fastest to be able to shift the boat in a favorable direction without having to hit these constant blockades.
The fact that we have to look to the, you know, when we held Mayorkas in contempt or we wanted to impeach Mayorkas, it just died.
Because we know the Senate is never going to do anything about it.
It's all of these institutions that I think we're trying to find a real, I think conservatives are trying to find a real alignment for and able to become productive should Trump win in November.
mike benz
I'm curious, are we able to look up who Larry Hogan's biggest financial campaign contributors are?
Like is, you know, who, which industries and individuals contribute the most to Larry Hogan's campaign?
Let's try this.
tim pool
Let's see if ChatGP can find it.
Who is the largest campaign contributor to Larry Hogan?
mike benz
Yeah, like top 5 or something like that.
Top 5, top 10.
tim pool
Normally you'd have to search, like, Open Secrets or something.
The largest campaign contributor to Larry Hogan comes from Individual Contributions.
Okay, Hogan's campaign overall raised 3.1.
Let's do this.
unidentified
Outside of Individuals... $3 million.
tim pool
Who gave the most?
From FEC.gov.
Okay, outside of Individual Contributions... Other Committees... It doesn't actually say.
mike benz
OK, well, one of the things I find interesting about this is that the tango dance that Trump has to do to keep his, you know, his friends close and his enemy, his enemies closer.
You know, I think I think back a lot to something that I think Tucker Carlson revealed.
That when Trump was considering, that Trump had called him, I don't know if I'm recalling the story 100% accurately, but I remember it being reported somewhere that Tucker said that before Trump bombed Syria in, I think it was early 2018, that Trump had called Tucker and asked for his opinion on it.
And Tucker said, don't do it.
It's insane.
It's warmongering.
Tucker asked Trump, well, what do you think you're going to do?
And Trump said, I think I'm going to do it.
And I remember that there was some suggestion that Trump didn't necessarily want to do it,
but he was under a lot of pressure from the Russiagate, from the Russiagate-Muller investigation,
which at that point people thought Trump might be arrested by Bob Mueller in the Russiagate
thing, and that Trump felt a need to make sure that Republicans in his own party in
Congress were, who were prone to war, who were prone to maximum pressure on Russia,
would be on his side on Russiagate because he was doing what they wanted on Syria.
And I look at this Larry Hogan situation, and I can't help but suspect a kind of similar
political calculus.
tim pool
So, I was finally able to figure it out after asking several questions.
So, Better Path Forward PAC is one of the leading PACs, and then it mentions other committees.
I said, who is the biggest PAC donors?
Robert Smith, a private equity firm executive, and Jeffrey Lurie, an NFL team owner.
mike benz
I'd be curious what industries that private equity firm specializes in, for example.
What that would reveal to me is, is it military?
Is it the Carlyle Group?
Is it energy?
Is it oil and gas?
tim pool
Software, data, and technology-enabled businesses.
According to the FEC.gov.
mike benz
Yeah.
Yeah.
tim pool
He's also the lead singer of The Cure.
mike benz
What?
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
That's a different one.
All right, let's see.
I asked Chet GPT.
Okay, so right now, I asked it based on the current trends.
So this is not a simulation or a prediction.
This is Chet GPT's analysis of pundits.
Republicans are expected to secure 222 seats.
Democrats are expected to win 213 right now.
They'll have a narrow majority.
So what I had done before is I actually asked ChatGPT not just to look at polls, but to look at individual districts and changes in population, changes in youth vote, youth vote expected turnout.
When you added all of these things together, it said Democrats will end up winning.
When you ask it, based on the latest polling, who's going to win?
It says Republicans win.
But I don't know that that's a sufficient analysis.
I think you need to look at immigration, which has been massive, and we need to factor in.
And I said, based on immigration numbers, based on youth vote turnout, and interstate migration, it's a Democrats win.
mike benz
Interesting.
tim pool
Yep.
And then it's going to be a wild ride.
mike benz
I mean, right now, having the House, I mean, as much As much criticism, I think, that is completely owed and due to Republicans in Congress, there actually has been a fair amount of really incredible things that folks in the House have done that I did not think were politically possible a couple of years ago.
I mean, even think about the fact that we have a Senate subcommittee to investigate the origins of COVID-19.
To even ask that question was to not be allowed to have a social media account a couple years ago.
We have this weaponization subcommittee, which has subpoenaed everybody under the sun, done a lot of damage to a lot of malign actors, as they like to say.
Yeah, and you know, the January 6th committee was because Democrats, you know, because again, the role of that majority is not just in getting bills done.
It's that all the committees flip and and so the entire subject of investigation.
Either turns on essentially, you know, a one vote majority.
And this is what we're actually seeing is one of the sort of scandals of the George Santos situation and others.
But, you know, a lot of the momentum that we have right now on a lot of fronts, because even when Brazil came after Elon and the House Foreign Affairs Committee, you know, sort of left to his defense.
And even right now, even as we speak today, there was a whole hearing on Merrick Garland's abuse of the Justice Department, where all of the facts about Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro were publicly aired, and that provides media cycles, that provides an important signal to folks in the private sector, folks like Elon Musk, folks like David Sachs and Chamath and other Silicon Valley types, that Congress will have your back If you are honest and act with integrity, there will be investigations, it will be legitimized by the People's Assembly.
And the idea that, like, literally just a couple of seats in a random state could end all of the ongoing committees and immediately flip them to the same Justice Department that is imprisoning everyone.
Yeah, I would agree with Tim's assessment.
That's a pretty terrifying thought.
tim pool
Just because Trump is ahead doesn't mean that everything's going to swing Republican.
Or that the Republicans who win will even do anything.
mike benz
Yeah.
I mean, the main issue is the Republican Civil War, though, because Trump inherited a Republican House and a Republican Senate, you know, when he came into office after the 2016 election.
But he was screwed over by Paul Ryan.
He was screwed over by his own party because of the GOP Civil War between the globalist half of Congress, which is funded by the The large multinational corporations and financial firms, which, you know, is basically invested in the military industrial complex, the oil and gas industry and the chamber of commerce types.
And then you have this sort of nationalist populist faction.
And until that civil war is resolved one way or the other, the Republican Party is going to sort of constantly, it's going to constantly lose to the Democrat Party on political issues because Whatever your issue, one wedge of the GOP can be turned against the other to create a Democrat majority with the holdouts from the warring factions.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story.
Ladies and gentlemen, it may be the apocalypse.
Saudi Arabia's petrodollar deal with the U.S.
expires with no new agreement in place.
A petrodollar agreement with the United States and Saudi Arabia has expired.
As per reports, the Gulf nation has decided not to renew the deal that expired on June 9th.
The move can be seen as a global finance paradigm shift from the USD as a reserve currency.
The termination of the deal may also have implications and consequences for America.
The 50-year-old agreement has had significant geopolitical and economic implications.
It acted as a catalyst in shaping the global energy market and influencing international relations.
The petrodollar system was signed in 1974 as a result of a bilateral agreement between the U.S.
and Saudi Arabia.
Both nations decided to price and trade oil in U.S.
dollars.
With oil standardization in terms of dollars, every country purchasing oil from Saudi Arabia would be required to pay in dollars.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, what does this mean for you?
also began to standardize their oil pricing in US dollars, which gave push to the petrodollar
system.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, what does this mean for you?
The United States produces very little.
economy is as good as it is relative to other nations is that we have global empire.
We point guns at other people, we take them over and remove their leaders.
Saudi Arabia getting off the petrodollar deal likely means they're going to start trading in other currencies as well, which means no one has any reason to buy U.S.
dollars.
The way it worked is rather simple.
If a country, we'll just call it country A. How about free domestan?
We'll call it free domestan.
They want oil.
What do they have to do?
They have to trade free domestani currency for U.S.
dollars first, then buy oil in U.S.
dollars.
There's faster ways of transacting and doing the flip, but basically this means the free domestani currency must be strong.
The nation typically has to maintain higher exports than imports, selling more than they're buying, so that they're Buying power stays strong and they can buy oil for their country.
The United States doesn't do that.
The United States just creates currency upon the issuance of debt and then buys oil with it.
Now, if the Biden administration or anyone else just buys a ton of oil by printing money and producing debt, then you'll get inflation.
This means something magical is about to happen.
It means if the petrodollar system breaks, the economy will likely implode and you will all find your standard of living miserable.
The U.S.
does not produce enough to maintain a strong currency.
It's the petrodollar that allows the currency to be strong.
That is, what does the U.S.
produce?
Dollars.
What are dollars good for?
Buying oil.
Not anymore.
So now, why is anyone going to buy dollars?
They're not.
So the value of the dollar is going to start sinking.
Your buying power is going to collapse.
Good luck.
I have no answers.
I'm not an economist.
mike benz
I find this to be one of the most fascinating things to happen.
I mean, the decision tree spiral from this is, first of all, let it be said that this would never have happened under Donald Trump.
Saudi Arabia loved, loved, loved Donald Trump.
And they hated, hated, hated the second half of the Obama administration and Joe Biden.
A lot of this comes down to the fact that Saudi Arabia has been Essentially our vassal in the Middle East for oil and the economics of that for a century, effectively.
And I heard something really interesting by Snowden on a Joe Rogan interview a few years ago.
And I've been meaning to go back and track down the clip because I can't get it out of my head when I see this, which is that Snowden let slip, and I don't know where he got this information or how strongly he sort of was suggesting that this was true, but in one of his, I think, two Joe Rogan appearances, he appeared to insinuate that Saudi intelligence Had awareness that Khashoggi was involved in organizing a kind of U.S.-backed coup of the Saudi government, and that that was part of the calculus of their assassination in the embassy of Khashoggi.
And I find that to be really interesting because Obama really alienated Saudi Arabia with the Iran deal.
By opening up Iran's oil and gas exports, it effectively makes Iran a regional rival to Saudi Arabia, whose entire economy revolves on their regional energy dominance.
And Iran actually has, I believe, more gross exploitable oil and gas exports.
Then Saudi Arabia, if they were allowed to export to full capacity, and the Obama administration opening them up and partnering with them through the Iran deal, brought Saudi Arabia and Israel into a joint, this is actually sort of the roots of the Abraham Accords, which is that the Biden administration, the Obama administration with the Iran deal in 2015, By building up Iran and Qatar by proxy, they were effectively creating a security threat to Israel, because that money would go to pay for Hamas and Hezbollah, and an economic threat to Saudi Arabia, because now they'd lose a huge amount of their market share, because now there'd be all this Iranian oil, and then it would drive down the price of the oil that they do sell, because you have all this new supply on the market.
And so this basically put Israel and Saudi Arabia into a partnership for the first time in decades, which was brokered by the Trump administration.
The first act, if you remember, that Trump did when he took office was to kill that Iran energy deal.
And so MBS and Saudi Arabia loved Trump and then immediately went hostile on Biden.
And I can't help, you know, if part of that has to do with The current policies that the Biden administration have on Iran, the backdoor Iran deal they effectively have, allowing China to have this $400 billion oil and gas deal with Iran evading the sanctions, while Hunter was actually partnered with the Chinese energy company doing that.
And then you have, well, I mean years, same company, but this is Hunter five, five, six years ago.
And then you have, you know, I can't help but think that Saudi Arabia sees the trajectory of the United States under a sort of permanent Biden government as being something that's going to coup Saudi Arabia from the inside and bankrupt them from the outside.
And so they are now breaking this, this 50 year, you know, this 50 year petrodollar pledge.
Joe Biden is not inspiring confidence in everybody.
tim pool
In anybody.
And so I can't imagine anybody's going to think... Imagine you want to go start a business with someone.
You want to enter into a contract with someone.
Let's say you want to make a comic book.
And you need a guy who can, I don't know, come up with ideas.
You're a great artist.
And then you meet Joe Biden.
You gonna do a deal with him?
mike benz
It's actually great you bring that up, because just today it was announced at the G7 summit that the U.S.
Treasury is going forward with this plan to fund Ukraine with frozen Russian assets.
unidentified
That's right.
mike benz
Just sort of putting on the State Department hat here, we've always made the argument that you should invest in the United States instead of China because, hey, China is an autocratic government.
You never know if your investment is going to be safe because any day the CCP could just nationalize your company, take all your assets.
haven't really done it before, but the looming threat of it because of the way their system
works is always the sword of Damocles hanging above you. So Brazil, you should be using our
phones instead of Huawei. You should be using Amazon instead of Alibaba. You should be investing
your assets on U.S. territory instead of in Chinese territory. And now the State Department
and the Treasury have just done the big bad apocalypse claim.
We've always been saying for like 30 years now that China might do someday and that's the reason they're bad.
It's the same thing with the prosecutions where they're saying, you know, oh Trump is threatening to prosecute people while they're actually doing it.
But they made a deal under our legal system as it existed at the time.
Like the Russians, hate the Russians, think they're the worst thing, you know, think Putin is Hitler.
They invested the assets in this country.
They did not attack the United States.
Whatever you want to say they did, it happened 8,000 miles away to another foreign country.
If the new terms of dealing with the United States is anytime we squint and say, hey, you know what?
We think you attack democracy, some ethereal concept, then Billions!
Basically, I think it's like 200 or 300 billion dollars of total frozen Russian assets.
I know that there was three billion dollars that they pledged that they're immediately taking to fund Ukraine with.
Why would you do a deal with this country in this way?
I mean, if this is not reversed immediately, this is going to be catastrophic diplomatically.
hannah claire brimelow
But it won't be reversed immediately, right?
Like we're kind of in gridlock in free fall in terms of reform policy, in my eyes, until we figure out who's going to handle the next four years.
mike benz
You could see a world where Trump wins the presidency.
And some of what happened, what has happened, some of the worst excesses, not all of it, but some of the worst excesses just sort of feel like a bad dream.
They threatened to do this.
They did a little bit of damage, but it was stopped before it's too late.
America gets to preserve, you know, preserve You know, the century of diplomatic statecraft that we'd had for that time.
You say, OK, there was a period where we went off the rails, but we reined it in quickly.
And this actually shows how robust our system is, that even when we do overstretch, even when we look like we're going to renege on this deal, even when it actually is safe, because we will always be able to catch ourselves.
And that is just one more reason why the fate of the universe kind of hangs in the balance this November.
chris karr
What really cracked me up about the people that were at the G7 that were making this catastrophic deal is that six out of the seven leaders are all unpopular.
Like, they have insane internal struggles in their own country.
Like, Politico had a great report about this where they said this is the meeting of the lame ducks.
You know?
So, I mean, you have unpopular leaders that are making deals that are catastrophic.
Like, that's pretty much where we're at.
mike benz
Well that's why I find it so funny that populism is the big dirty word in all of this.
That populism is inherently a threat to democracy, the will of the people.
Because they basically redefined democracy from meaning a consensus of individuals, i.e.
voters, to a consensus of institutions, i.e.
that same blob, cloistered You know, an elite institutional set.
And so – and you even see this.
I mean if you run a Google search for phrases like elections are a threat to democracy,
there's a lot of literature from the foreign policy establishment about how we need to
transition away from looking at elections and votes as being our definition of democracy
because populism is on the rise.
The will of the people is – and they're really – they're redefining what democracy
is to mean democratic institutions, basically pillars of society like our Justice Department
or the mainstream media or these – or NGOs.
And that's really having a healthy and robust ecosystem of essentially CIA assets or State
Department-funded institutions or military contractors.
Their will is what democracy is now.
And so it is funny that they're unpopular and they're in power and what they're
at war with is the concept of populism, which is basically popular opinion against elite
chris karr
Just to make my comprehension easier, when I'm reading the headlines, when these freak shows are talking about democracy, I just instantly translate in my head it's hegemony.
Then I'm just like, okay, now it makes sense.
tim pool
Tyranny, fascism.
chris karr
Yes.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think this continues to drive people to populism, though?
I think as it becomes more clear that, you know, we're speaking different languages, people feel more – not everybody, but there are a lot of people who feel more insistent that they have to act now, they have to become part of populist movements to, again, have some sort of impact on where we're going as a nation.
mike benz
I think presently we're on a razor's edge about that.
The fact is is like North Korea does exist.
You can beat people down to a point and you can use the levers of police power, the level, the levers of censorship, you know, the levers of the government and its asset institutions to be able to truly subjugate a people For a millennium.
But the issue is right now is they were on track for that, I think, before a handful of fortuitous turns of events in about 2022, which included the House turning over, which allowed basically taking some of the foot off of the gas of some of the worst excesses of what the government was doing.
The House has blocked a lot of things.
They have forced negotiations on everything from the budget to investigations, hearings, subpoenas, hauling everyone in for transcribed interviews.
You've got Elon Musk who, I mean, think about, for example, even the commerce of media in this country and how brutal it was to be a content creator or an alternative media institution and have nobody, not a single platform, And not just to have that platform, but to have the ecosystem of sort of musk-ism around you.
That he also owns Tesla and SpaceX and has the institutional sort of connections.
And the fact that that sort of opened up Silicon Valley, the fact that they've just had a sold-out Silicon Valley, you know, fundraise.
Right now, there is this, I think, tenuous moment to, you know, to fight back.
I don't know that that will always exist.
There could be a century of darkness if the next five years play out the wrong way.
tim pool
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Clint Torres says, Howdy people!
Howdy Clint, always with the first super chat whenever he so desires.
Alpha Turkey says, put a chick in it and make her gay.
Rip Star Wars.
Isn't it funny that South Park made fun of Star Wars for that and then they literally did that?
It's like, I wonder if Disney went, uh oh.
They're calling us out and we didn't even release the episode yet.
That's the new Star Wars story.
That lesbian space witch has created the force?
Is that what it is?
mike benz
Oh my god, I didn't see this.
tim pool
They birthed immaculate babies through witchcraft or something?
hannah claire brimelow
They don't eat men.
You know how it is.
mike benz
You know what?
That's just a Green Amplify.
That's just game right there.
It's like, alright, a Green Amplify.
Yeah, we are gonna put a chick in.
We are gonna make her gay.
tim pool
Alright, BlueTMC says, being under the influence of a substance, no matter the substance, doesn't make your right to self-defense vanish.
We already have laws for brandishing, negligent discharge, assault, murder.
That's a good point!
That is a good point.
So then I guess we could, the clarification should be, if you are actively wielding a weapon while under the influence, you have committed the crime.
Perhaps influence can be a, I don't know, extenuating factor of some sort?
Tim Jakes says, I'd love to see Ian take a class on how the British government actually operates so he'll stop making so many ignorant and asinine comments about the Empire and Emperor.
He doesn't seem to understand this.
Ian lives in this, like, fictional world where the King of England—I suppose of England—can just take control of Australia or Canada or New Zealand, which is not correct.
It's not reality.
mike benz
What does he say when he says that?
tim pool
It's like on paper a long time ago, but it doesn't recognize the formal relationships of government and how these governments function.
Yet there's no reality where the king is going to be like, alright Canada, you have to do this now, and they're going to be like, kay.
It's just not going to work that way.
mike benz
It's written in invisible ink on the back of the Magna Carta.
tim pool
Yeah, that's where it is.
I mean, initially, yeah, the king was the king of the Commonwealth, but I think modern politics is just, it is not reality to see something like that happen.
unidentified
Doesn't work that way.
tim pool
All right, let's grab some more Super Chats.
Blue TMC says, it's the acts you conduct with that firearm that determines whether or not you're breaking the law.
unidentified
Well, all right, that'd be an interesting, interesting debate.
tim pool
The Highlander says, Ian has Hulkamania energy.
Okay.
Anthony Shaw says, let's go.
hannah claire brimelow
What are the adjectives for Hulkamania?
Like, is there a synonym to this?
I'm not sure I understand what that energy is.
tim pool
He's a fan of Hulk Hogan.
Impassible says, use this to buy more BuzzFeed.
Yeah, I bought a bunch of BuzzFeed stock.
hannah claire brimelow
You and Vivek taking over?
tim pool
Not me.
I can't buy nearly as much as he's bought.
But I was just like, you know, I'm gonna buy some stock.
And then I saw BuzzFeed and I saw what Vivek was saying.
And I was kind of just thinking like, He's the best reason to believe it's going to become more valuable, I guess.
So I don't usually like talking about the stocks that I buy because I don't want to have any influence on them.
But we talk about BuzzFeed and the Vivek story enough to where I figured I'd mention that I bought some.
I didn't buy nearly that much.
hannah claire brimelow
You have been secretly buying it up quietly for months and then you make a big announcement.
You're not going to send an open letter to their CEOs?
tim pool
I would love to own BuzzFeed.
And their market cap is down to like $95 million.
Let me check their current market cap.
hannah claire brimelow
What company would you secretly take over if you could, Chris Carr?
chris karr
Uh, wow.
AMC.
hannah claire brimelow
AMC?
chris karr
Yeah, I would take over AMC.
Yeah, probably.
hannah claire brimelow
Didn't AMC just invest in Alamo Drafthouse or something?
chris karr
If they did, that's a really smart investment because Alamo Drafthouse is the movie theater of the future.
tim pool
Sony bought it, I think.
94 million is BuzzFeed's market cap.
So you need 94 million, probably more actually, to buy the company.
But if you buy too much, the price goes up.
So it gets harder and harder.
It's probably why Vivek is doing it slowly.
Otherwise, you just, you know, if you say right now you wanted to buy 10 million, you'd crank the price way up and price yourself out.
So I don't know exactly what he's doing.
All I know is I am part owner of BuzzFeed now.
mike benz
That's interesting.
You know, BuzzFeed played such an interesting role in the in the Steele dossier.
And they really pioneered, I think I read, I think it's a book called Attention Merchants, which sort of goes through the history of mainstream media and into the social media age.
There was a whole thing on BuzzFeed pioneering that sort of viral kitten listicle kind of concept, and then sort of turning the whole news industry into sort of appreciating the power of newsifying things, you know, in these in like, in listicles and sort of on making it sort of in internet speak, making it less like the Sunday edition of the New York Times, and more something that speaks, you know, to modern culture.
And I actually think was it Ben Smith?
Was he the, the original CEO?
tim pool
No, no, no, no, the editor in chief.
mike benz
Chief.
Yeah.
tim pool
Jonah Praddy is the CEO.
mike benz
Okay.
I feel like when he went over to the New York Times, when Ben Smith, I feel like something, they lost a lot of their, I don't know, I just didn't see him around as much, I guess, breaking big stories.
tim pool
Ben is a morally good guy who doesn't know what's going on around him.
Because I've known him for a while, and I've talked to him a couple times.
He has very little deep understanding of what's actually happening in the country, but he's not a bad guy.
There are a lot of people in the corporate press who are evil, know what's going on.
He's the opposite.
He has no idea what's happening, but he's a good guy.
Yeah, it's unfortunate.
Because he's the kind of guy where like...
If you can prove something is true and he will recognize it, then he'll say it.
But I will give him this shout-out.
When BuzzFeed News fabricated a story about a black man killing another black man over a fried chicken sandwich, I got pissed off that they published the fake story, because it's disgusting.
What happened was, when Popeyes released their new chicken sandwich, remember that big trend that happened?
There was a guy who was at Popeyes, someone cut in line, He's, and it was nothing to do with the sandwich.
It was just a guy cut in line.
He went outside, and I can't remember exactly what happened, but the guy was like, hey, you know, don't cut, like, who do you think you are?
And then the guy, I think, stabbed him and killed him.
And it was not over a chicken sandwich.
It was people got into a fight at the Popeyes.
But they couldn't resist the story.
The family members were shocked, outraged, and upset that the media was lying and claiming that they were fighting.
The implication was that there was one chicken sandwich left and it was so much for the guy to stab him.
When BuzzFeed ran that story, I reached out to Ben Smith and I said, hey, this is not correct.
Here's the proof.
The family is saying this is not what happened.
And he said, so what?
He did not care that he published fake news.
That's scumbaggery.
unidentified
Yeah.
mike benz
Well, that kind of makes me revisit that he's a good guy.
tim pool
Well, I'm not going to condemn him.
There have been many instances where he has done the right thing on stories of, you know, more importance.
Like, a viral clickbait story he doesn't care about, I think is scummy.
But there have been bigger, more important stories where he's done the right thing.
That being said, based on the conversations I've had with him, he has, like, some of the thinnest, like, the most shallow understanding of what's going on in the world.
unidentified
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
It is interesting that BuzzFeed really made its bones on going viral.
That was true of their news team, but that was also true of their list to close to certain extent.
The video components that they launched at one point, like, it was about getting as many eyes on whatever you're doing as possible.
So it's not surprising to me that, like, that would take precedence in their newsroom, especially when you come up with headlines.
But it's definitely not something that other news outlets that were online were doing the way they were.
mike benz
Right.
tim pool
This is Obama's third term, not Biden's term.
He is corrupt and has done so many illegal things, but wow, I pity him.
This is definitely elder abuse.
He is gone.
This is Obama's third term, not Biden's term.
Dude, that video today, I mean, there's a reason it got 10 million views in only a couple
hours, in like six, seven hours.
He's standing around at a skydiving, like, presentation, and then he just like, corn
holio arms spins around and then starts walking in a random direction like he's just gone,
chris karr
There's people defending him, though.
They're saying it's not a big deal.
Like, he does have a staunch defender, like this one guy I pulled up.
What's happening here is that you're an old guy who moves kind of stiltedly.
It's very easy to find brief clips that look strange to people already committed to the idea he's lost it.
tim pool
He has lost it.
I've heard him talk.
chris karr
Yeah, but you're never going to get through to these people.
hannah claire brimelow
The Crafters had one that Newsweek cited, and they were saying, oh, well, what's happening is, like, you can see that eight out of the ten people look one direction, when one of the guys starts talking, then they look the other direction, and Biden just is still listening to someone else.
Incredible.
It would be impossible for you to know that unless you were there, but also video evidence sort of speaks for itself.
Even if what you're saying is true, he's actually listening to someone else, he doesn't convey confidence.
He doesn't convey strength.
He looks like he is a slightly lost old man, and that's sad.
I don't like that either.
tim pool
You know what I like?
I like these video games where they present you with a problem and then you can solve it however you want.
An example of one game is a game called Human Fall Flat.
Have you guys ever heard of it?
So it's this game where you play this wonky little dude and you run around and you've got to open doors.
The goal is to get to the exit, that's it, but the controls are really weird.
You can press the right trigger and he'll grab something, and you press the left trigger and he'll grab something, and then you have to, like, lift yourself up, and it's a very funny game.
But it doesn't matter how you get to the exit.
You can get to the exit any way you want.
There's no cheating.
I love these games because I don't play them the way you'd expect them to be played.
My character, you fall from the sky, you land in this little level, And then I'm just thinking, how do I get from here to there?
And they have a path, but you don't gotta take it.
So I like doing things where I like climb under the level, figure out how to control the guy in ways that it's not supposed to be done, and I figure out how it gets done.
I feel like when it comes to people like the Krasensteins, before we actually entertain political debate from the likes of them or other Democrat pundits, we have to give them some kind of basic logic puzzle to see if they can solve it first.
And then if they can, and anyone else, I will gladly solve a basic logic puzzle before I walk into a debate.
And if you can't, we kindly ask you to leave.
mike benz
It's like an IQ capture.
chris karr
Yeah.
tim pool
Right.
chris karr
Yeah, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
No, they would just declare it immediately systemically racist and be like, we can't impose this.
tim pool
Many would.
Many would.
And I don't know what their solution would be.
Perhaps they take the very boring and bland, they walk right to the level.
So, you know, there's one level where you're like, you hit a button and the door opens and then you have to walk and you got to pick up a rock and put the rock on the button, another door opens.
Then you have to like push a boulder and it falls and then it makes an elevator come up.
Very fun game.
Very simple.
I don't like doing any of that.
I just like figuring out- I've- I've- and anybody who's played the game for any amount of time, people who know what I'm talking about, you can- you can sort of cheat.
There's ways to swing your guy up and- up and around to make him climb over anything and bypass anything and get into places you're not supposed to get to.
I love doing all that stuff.
If they solve the puzzle, 1, 2, 3, 4, that's fine.
If someone else solves it, 5, 6, 7, 8, whatever, totally acceptable.
If they get the answer 120 and someone else gets five exclamation point, we accept it.
chris karr
Right.
mike benz
Yeah, it's like agreeing on a process.
tim pool
A basic level of comprehension required to have these conversations.
The reason I bring this up is, you know, I'm thinking about how the people are defending Joe Biden.
I just want to know that their brains work and that they're lying intentionally, or if they're just stupid.
Joe Biden is standing up on D-Day.
He squats down, grimaces, he stands up, he squats down a little bit again, and we're all like, well, that was kind of weird.
I wonder what that was.
There is a probability that he was pooping himself.
We don't know for sure that he did, but I do believe, based on his age, the propensity for people over the age of 80 to suffer from fecal incontinence, the existence of depends is proof of this, but you can actually look up the number, I believe it is then reasonable to assume There is a strong probability Biden had an episode.
Not only that, but he's been accused of having episodes before.
We entertain the reality that these could be political attacks against him, that they're trying to insult him.
But you cannot ignore the fact that it's an 80-year-old man who made a weird squat position.
He wasn't trying to sit down.
There's a chair right behind him.
No one's saying anything.
Everyone's supposed to be standing.
I don't know what the percentage is.
unidentified
1?
tim pool
50?
But it's a possibility.
And there are people like, it's completely impossible.
He must have been adjusting his posture.
And I'm like, how often do you see people do anything like that?
That's adjusting their posture.
Okay.
Maybe let's throw that in there long, but the idea that outright you would say, no, I put it this way.
There is more evidence that Joe Biden pooped his pants than there is that Donald Trump is a Russian asset.
Yet they ran through the news a million and one ways that Trump was a Russian asset.
And it was all completely made up.
They said that the Hunter Biden laptop story was Russian disinformation and they're maintaining that lie.
There is more evidence that Joe Biden crapped his pants on stage during D-Day, I did not say definitive proof, there's just more evidence that that's true, than Hunter Biden's laptop was part of a Russian disinformation scheme.
It was actually his laptop.
It was admitted into evidence.
It was his.
Serial number confirms it.
All of his stuff is on it.
And right now, journalists are still tweeting, but it still is part of a Russian disinformation campaign.
The argument they're making now is, the Russians stole the laptop and then secretly handed it off to a pawn shop so that some Trump supporter could pick it up.
That is ridiculously assumptive and circuitous.
That being said, there's more of it.
And so there are people who are like, that there's no way he pooped his pants, you're making that up.
But the laptop, that's a Russian spy operation.
I'm like, okay, your logic doesn't exist.
I want you to, I want to get, you know, with those little puzzles we bought from, you know, Gamers Parrot, what are those, I don't know what those game stores are called.
A bunch of different game stores.
You get like...
Not GameStop, but you go to the mall and they have, like, they'll sell puzzles and things like that.
Actually, GameStop might sell these.
And it'll be, like, three triangles and you're like, how did these get together?
And then you have to, like, spin them to make them come apart.
They're so fun.
Yeah, I'm gonna put that on the door outside and be like, before anybody comes in for a debate, figure this one out.
I don't care how long it takes you.
If you can figure it out, you can come upstairs.
hannah claire brimelow
I think it's probably more fun to be illogical though, right?
Because you're not tied to any sort of map or path to making straightforward conclusions or things that make sense.
It doesn't have to add up and that's sort of more fun.
You can just continue to twist and add and take away and subtract and go back on things.
It doesn't matter if you're illogical.
mike benz
It's like an LSD trip for logic.
tim pool
The Xbox Gamer says, it was Enterprise B in yesterday's Enterprise.
So I was talking about Star Wars being complete garbage, and there's this woman who made a video talking about the birth control pill, saying that it makes women like their brothers.
Like, it makes them attracted to their brothers.
Because what happens is, when they're on the pill, it simulates pregnancy, so their hormones tell them to be with family.
So the men they want to be with are more effeminate, weak, and more like brothers or sisters or moms, and not like strong masculine men who can fight.
When women are not on the pill, they're looking for the strongest guy when they're on the pill.
So she says, and I'm not talking about your cool brother who was handsome and played on football, I'm talking about your effeminate bi brother who watched Star Trek.
And so I made a video and basically pointed out, Star Wars.
You want to rag on Star Wars today and Star Trek today?
Like, okay, fine.
But Star Trek, the OG stuff and the next generation, is some of the manliest, most masculine thing ever.
And I recommend people who have not seen the next generation watch it, and I recommend their kids watch it.
One of my favorite stories in The Next Generation, I'll make this one quick, I did a longer thing about it earlier today.
In the original series, it's the Federation, that's the main character, Kirk and everybody, and then there's Klingons, they're bad guys.
And then in The Next Generation, when they rebooted the series and created a new crew and everything, and it was one of the most popular shows ever, they decided, so this is what happened, the writers were like, how do we show the passage of time and that the story's advanced?
Put a Klingon on the Enterprise.
An enemy from the first series is now an ally in the new series.
The writing they came up with was that the Klingons and the Federation are at war.
Romulans, another enemy faction, attack a civilian outpost, a civilian colony of Klingons, killing women and children, a massacre, just wiping everybody out.
And then the Federation intercepts a distress signal from the Klingons, their enemy.
They warp full speed, they rush in as fast as they can and encounter four warships they are completely incapable of handling.
Instead of fleeing the battle, the Enterprise sacrifices itself, getting destroyed in the process in an effort to try and save as many Klingon civilians as possible.
The Klingon Empire then, seeing this as an act of bravery and honor, decides to enter into an alliance with the Federation.
That's the story they wrote.
That is based AF.
The idea that you in your ship would sacrifice yourself for honor And the Integrity is an amazing story for kids.
It's amazing writing.
What we get now with Star Wars, and don't get me wrong, mine and Star Trek is bad too, we get lesbian space witches chanting to impregnate women with the Force.
Yeah, okay, look.
You wanna talk about Manly?
Kids learning about naval tradition, which is the basis of Star Trek.
It's effectively naval tradition, but they put it in space.
And you have perpetual stories throughout this whole thing of sacrifice, honor, what it means to be a good person, what it means to be strong, what it means to be a man.
Those are great lessons.
Yeah, we don't have a lot of those stories these days, so I'll call Star Trek at least what it used to be.
Very masculine.
mike benz
I thought you were going somewhere different with that at first because, you know, of like a Klingon being, you know, someone from the enemy side being on your ship.
I was rewatching Austin Powers on a plane.
It was just like a movie while I was traveling.
And there's a really funny scene because I think Austin Powers was made in like 1997, the original one.
And there's this scene which, you know, when I watched it as a kid, like I just thought I didn't even process its sort of geopolitical So implications, especially today when we're at war with Russia, but essentially Austin Powers is like cryogenically unfrozen and instead of being in the year like 1960 is like, you know, guy with mojo and everything, he's now in the 1990s and in what was then the present day and, you know, British intelligence cryogenically unfreezes him and there's, standing in front of him are like two Russian scientists in this, in the British intelligence, you know, lab here and he immediately gets in his fighting posture and is prepared to like, you know,
Karate chop them, and then he's told by the MI6 guy, no, no, no, no, no, it's Austin.
It's 1997 now.
The Russians are our friends.
And it's so funny because 1980s was all like hardcore Cold War propaganda.
tim pool
They're the enemy.
mike benz
We're back to that now.
But like we had this period during the Yeltsin years from 1991 to 1999 where Austin Bowers was made where it was like we have a Klingon on our ship and it's a good thing because they're not the enemies.
We have this alliance now.
Of course now that could never be made today as a comedy.
tim pool
What's-her-name says, lost my mom a few weeks ago unexpectedly.
She was a huge Timcast fan and got me watching.
We would always discuss the show.
You and Luke, her favorite, woke her up and she walked away from the left.
Thank you.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Sad to hear it.
Sorry about your loss, but I'm glad you found the show and you shared something and I hope for the best.
Wish you the best.
Let's grab a couple more Super Chats here.
Danny O'Shea says Mayorkas has been trafficking people, especially children, through red states.
Where's the arrest warrants?
Absolutely, Tennessee.
Huge story several years ago that the Biden administration was flying trafficking children into Tennessee and Tennessee legislators were upset about it.
No action?
None whatsoever.
mike benz
Wow.
tim pool
That's amazing.
Slow Brain says, did West Virginia spend $1 million on a Pride mural on the street, or did I read that wrong?
I do not believe they spent $1 million.
hannah claire brimelow
Is that... There is, I don't know how much it cost, but there is a huge Pride mural in... In Huntington, right?
In Huntington.
tim pool
It's basically Kentucky, I think.
It's on the border.
Far West, West Virginia.
So it's the L.A.
of West Virginia, I guess.
But it's already getting completely obliterated.
People are just destroying it.
They're just driving their cars over it.
They're squealing their tires.
It's nuts.
mike benz
Where's that case now where they've made it a crime to do a donut on it, right?
tim pool
Yeah, I think in Washington, desecrating a pride flag is a felony or something like that.
mike benz
Yeah, I know there's some crazy ongoing case where they, you know, they threw the book at this guy.
tim pool
Oh, there's like 50 right now.
mike benz
Probably.
tim pool
There are some kids who are riding scooters and they're getting charged with felonies.
mike benz
Scooters?
It's all the way down to scooters?
tim pool
They were riding scooters around and it left scuffs, so they said it was vandalism.
And there's not even evidence presented yet that they were intentionally trying to scuff the road.
There's a video of them just riding around.
Yeah, and they called it damaging the mural.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't really understand why we need to do this, and also why Pride is taking over more and more and more.
Like, now it's the street art, I guess, with the Huntington mural.
They're saying, oh, it's supposed to serve as the centerpiece for the upcoming Pride Festival in the fall.
tim pool
Like, you guys got June.
They're tearing down our statues.
They're tearing down historical statues.
When I say our, I'm talking like Hans Christian Haag and Frederick Douglass.
I also don't like the Confederate statues being torn down.
They should be in museums at the very least, but it should be done through a democratic process.
And then after they destroy symbols of our history, they put up their garbage.
So, now, all of these should be fought to the highest degree possible, but I think it's got to be done legally.
That's the point.
The problem is, and I blame the police, how come very few people ever got arrested for destroying all of our statues?
Now they're arresting anybody who even accidentally drives over these things.
mike benz
Yes.
If you scuff a pair of white Nikes with a pride flag on it, it's like a crime.
It's just incredible.
But I think part of this is there has been a very strong reaction, I think, When Pride ventured into the transgender issue and the transgender issue transitioned into sort of the transgender of children issue, it began to, I think, add an element to the LGBT alliance that encountered a level of political opposition that was not
Not as formidable as it currently is.
I think you have so many parents now who are afraid of their public schools.
They're afraid that their son is going to come home a daughter, that the state child protective services will seize, and we've seen so many stories like that.
You now have JK Rowling and other, you know, very—it's dividing the left, frankly, you know, with TERFs versus feminists.
tim pool
But they're not the left anymore.
Yeah, here Rowling's far right.
I'm not kidding, they call her far right.
There's a viral story of this woman, she's gone viral every so often, and she says she realized that she wasn't pro-choice because she found out a friend of someone she knew got pregnant and she was like, the state's pro-choice is getting an abortion.
And then the woman was like, planning on keeping it.
She's like, why are you keeping it?
And then her friend said, because she can choose to.
And she's like, oh wow, I was just, I didn't realize pro-choice meant you could keep it too, wow.
This whole woman, this woman's shtick on her TikTok, 100,000 followers, I don't know, a decent amount of her videos is, I was raised Christian, and now I'm, you know, a bi, progressive, or whatever.
And I'm like, well, that's because the parents handed her to the state.
And that's what parents do, and they think it's, they don't care.
This I never understood.
They hand their kids to the state and they say, good luck.
And then the kid transforms into exactly who they're surrounded by.
From a Christian conservative, she said she protested gay marriage even.
And now she's marching in pride events and covered in makeup and...
mike benz
Well, once you go down it, I mean, you get committed, you know, it becomes your friend network, it changes you physically, I mean, especially with the transgender stuff, it changes your hormones, it changes your brain, it changes your impulses, your desires, you know, it's kind of like one of these In some ways, a lot of it, once you go down the road, it becomes physically and spiritually irreversible to some extent.
tim pool
You are the summation of the five people who surround you.
And if your parents handed you off to the state, you will become a facsimile of state agenda.
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