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VIGILANTES EVICT Squatters, Democrat Crimewave Sparks NYC Vigilantism w/Clint Russell | Timcast IRL

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clint russell

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ian crossland

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libby emmons

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, big story.
		It's been going viral.
		Is this woman in New York who had squatters come to her house?
		Bye.
		When the police showed up, not only did they actively try to defend the squatters, even though the squatters had no evidence they lived there, they ended up arresting the homeowner.
		We got breaking news today that vigilantes show up to just talk to these guys.
		Just talk to them.
		And sure enough, as soon as they did, these guys ran screaming.
		I'm being hyperbolic.
		They said, OK, we're leaving.
		We're out.
		Because I can only imagine what these guys must have said to them or what the implication was.
		And this is it.
		The big news today.
		Daniel Penney in New York has pleaded not guilty to manslaughter, and ABC News describes him as the man who choked a homeless man to death, instead of the Good Samaritan who saved people's lives on a train in New York City.
		We had the story, what, last week?
		About a guy getting shot and killed on the train.
		We have another story.
		A guy got slashed in the face.
		When we went to New York to check out the billboards we put up in Times Square, that morning, someone walked up to some random woman and just macheted her in the back.
		And now this guy, Penny, is facing prison.
		Because this is what you get in a narco-tyranny.
		But what you also get is the rise of vigilantes.
		So we actually have several stories emerging about vigilante groups popping up.
		But we got a lot more.
		Of course, there is big political news.
		Tony Bobulinski testifying Hunter Biden not showing up.
		And Bobulinski saying he personally witnessed Joe Biden committing crimes.
		AOC loses it!
		But, you know, we'll get into the heavy politics.
		We'll get into the heavy politics.
		The other big story we have is this viral video we mentioned the other day, where you've got this guy, I believe he's a Venezuelan individual, explaining to criminal aliens how to squat and take over homes.
		You've got a judge ruling that illegal immigrant criminal aliens are allowed to bear arms.
		And now you've got the Libertarian Party of Louisiana putting out a tweet saying, undocumented or otherwise, you should have guns.
unidentified		So I can only, uh... I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I can only guess at what's gonna come.
		We're going to jump into all those stories.
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		Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more, Clint Russell.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Tim, welcome.
		Thank you.
		Ian is back from Miami.
		Clint Russell, host of Liberty Lockdown, co-host of Tower Gang, which you should not watch, running for vice president of the United States of America and the Libertarian Party.
		I have, I disavow LP Louisiana.
		I'm gonna start with that.
		What else?
		I also host the Best Political Show with Luke Rudowsky and Steph, and you can find us on Rumble at WeAreChange.
		My list of duties is too long at this point.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think the important thing people need to realize is that in the Libertarian Party, you actually run for vice president.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is very unique in that the delegates will actually select both the presidential and the vice presidential candidate.
		So the presidential candidate does not get to select the VP.
		So we can have a very contentious composite ticket, if you will.
		Theoretically, it could be RFK Jr.
		and myself, but we'll see if that happens.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That would be very, very funny.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, we would be at each other's throats 24-7, but it'd be interesting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We also got Libby hanging out.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I'm hanging out.
		Hey, guys.
		Glad to be here.
		I'm Libby Emmons with the Postmillennial.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And I'm back from Florida.
		What's happening, everybody?
		Ian Crossland, if you don't know me, you do now.
		I was hanging with Luke Rutkowski, and I had the amazing, fortunate blessing to meet Toby Turner, who I've loved for over a decade.
		Tobuscus!
		You may have seen his work on YouTube.
		We collabed all week.
		We were writing music, making skits.
		He is a hilarious guy and uploaded a parody video that he and I did on his YouTube channel on Tobuscus.
		So after the show, you're going to want to check that out.
		And have a great night.
		Let's get rolling.
		Oh, and Tim, by the way, thanks for using your perception to identify these traps, these crazy things like the slashing and the hurting and the destruction, because it's like we're navigating this world and you're very aware of these problems.
		The problem is that the problems are moving.
		So it's like you can say the traps there, but like we've still got to learn how to we can't sit still is basically what I'm saying.
		We have to learn how to.
		How to maneuver this reality with all this crazy stuff going on.
		Well, I guess that's what we're doing tonight.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We got Surge pressing the buttons.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yo!
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		What's up, Ian?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm wired.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it seems like it.
		What's up, everybody?
		Good to see you, Clint, as well.
unidentified		Hell yeah, Surge.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Let's get started.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
		This is the big story.
		I mean, look, we got a lot of news today.
		But I think this is the most alarming as per how our society functions.
		From the Daily Mail.
		Vigilantes show up to evict squatters at Queens Home, where owner was arrested, as neighbors reveal three people have been living there for free and carrying out work inside.
		And the update from the Postmillennial?
		Two squatters vacate Queens Home after national backlash.
		One says he's staying.
		I'll tell you what I think happens.
		So we get this breaking news that vigilantes show up to the house.
		I'll give you a quick context for those that missed this story.
		Woman in New York, her parents die.
		She inherits their home, and she says, I'm gonna sell it.
		When she shows up to actually check on it, some people have moved in, changed the locks.
		When she calls the police, the police say, to these squatters, can you prove you live here?
		And when they can't, the police remove the men.
		The woman then goes to change the locks, but the police say, if you change the locks, we will arrest you.
		Don't do it!
		Even though it's her home, and those guys have no proof they live there.
		She changes the locks to her house.
		The cops then come up.
		Before that, this guy breaks back in the house.
		The cops then show back up and arrest the homeowner for unlawful eviction.
		The squatters stay and say, take me to court.
		Next thing that happens is exactly what we warned was going to happen.
		Some guys show up.
		And they said to the press, look, we're just going to talk to him.
		We're just going to talk to him.
		I wonder what they talked about.
		Because soon after, these guys split.
		Not all of them.
		One guy's on camera being like, I don't know who I paid rent to, but I paid rent, so I live here.
		And he just seems confused.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That's the guy who wants his deposit back.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They were like, yeah, so you paid the squatters?
		He's like, I guess.
		I don't know.
		And he's like some old guy with like missing teeth.
		I'll tell you what I think happened.
		What's going to start happening now more than ever, especially with what we're seeing with the Daniel Penney case and Daniel Perry in Texas, and now we've got a bunch of other stories I can pull up from the past couple of weeks of vigilante action in New York City.
		This is it.
		It is the rise of vigilantism because of the crime spike and because of bail reform.
		I mean, I didn't even mention this in the opening of the show, but Anna Kasparian says If being on the left means supporting bail reform, which lets murderers out of jail, then she's not on the left anymore.
		And Cenk's like, no, no, no, it's not true.
		And she's like, well, I don't know, because they let out murderers in New York.
		They find these people.
		They find body parts scattered all over the place.
		They find these people living in a house with blood, guts, and flesh everywhere.
		And they say, we're not going to keep him in jail.
		We're going to let him go.
		And so she's losing it.
		But I'll tell you what I think happens here in this story.
		We'll get to that one.
		You know what would happen if these squatters stayed in the building?
		When two guys show up and knock on your door and say, We're gonna tell you one time.
		You need to leave.
		That's all they're gonna say.
		Not gonna say anything else.
		And what happens next?
		These squatters will wake up in the middle of the night with a tap on their shoulder, and as soon as they open their eyes, there's gonna be two or three guys in ski masks, and one guy's just gonna rain a crowbar down on his kneecap.
unidentified		Smack!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then the squatter's gonna scream, and they're gonna say, you've been warned, and they're gonna leave.
		And when the cops show up, if they show up, the neighbors are all gonna say, we didn't see anything.
		That's where we're heading because of the laws they're passing, because the police are defending the criminals, and now you've got this crazy story, which we'll get into as well in a minute, of the illegal immigrant criminal alien saying, here's how you steal homes from people in America, land invasion.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That one's particularly disturbing because of the way he was saying it, in my opinion.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He was angry.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		And he was serious about it.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		He was like, this is how we go get places to live in the US, we just steal them.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That video is worth watching.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's nuts.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		When civilizations stop respecting property rights, this is what you get.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, yeah, you have, you got to move your mic over.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You mumbled the most amazing thing, sir.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		I thought you were going to keep saying that, but I said that last night.
		Exactly.
		So when you said it, I was like, yeah, I said exactly the same thing last night.
		And Phil talked about two property rights.
		Once they go, everything falls apart.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		And in that void, what arises?
		Well, mafiosos.
		People that will come in and they will enforce property rights on behalf of the citizens.
		And that is the only just way of dealing with property, is that you have to have some sort of chain of title.
		If you're going to totally disavow and disrespect that in the state of New York, well then you're going to see the rise of mafia again.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's be real.
		All these flash mob burglaries and robberies that we're seeing would not happen if the mafia still existed the way it did, you know, back in the day.
		Capone, for instance.
		At least the narrative we think we know about the mafia.
		When a couple local guys show up to your little grocery store and they say, it's time to pay us our protection money.
		And that's viewed so negatively in like movie tropes.
		It's like, oh no, they're shaking me down.
		And if you don't pay, they smash things up.
		I tell you this, I wouldn't want to live that way.
		I don't know if anybody would want to live that way.
		You want to live in a world where when someone comes and threatens your business, the cops are there in a moment's notice and they deal with it.
		And we have the right to defend ourselves while we're waiting for them.
		Like that guy in New York, they're trying to kill him, the bodega owner, and then when he wrestles the knife away and stabs back, they lock him up.
		But my point real quick, if we still lived in that world where the mob guys came down Went to this bodega, went to this department store and said, pay us our protection money.
		These roving bands of criminal gangs wouldn't exist.
		The moment any one group of kids or young men or whatever went to rob a store, they'd wake up in the middle of the night, there'd be two guys in ski masks, they'd tap them on the shoulder, and there'd be a crack with a crowbar in their kneecap, and they'd say, you won't steal from us!
		See, the organized crime wants to keep everything in line so they can keep the money flowing.
		These roving gangs are destroying the system all around them.
		So it's barbarism versus conquest.
		The mafia strategy was, we're going to own the territory, you keep working, because I want money next week.
		What we're seeing now is barbarism, which is loot, pillage, burn.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Well, and it's what we're seeing in a lot of places that are, you know, spilling refugees out into the U.S.
		We're seeing that in Haiti.
		The capital is completely under siege, basically.
		You have government officials resigning because they can't maintain any control over the population.
		But the thing with the squatters, and we've seen this in a couple of places, we've seen it in L.A., we've seen it in Atlanta, Philadelphia, we've seen this You know, across the board, squatters break into a house in Florida and they just live there.
		And when the person gets back, they have absolutely no rights to their own property.
		I find that, as a property owner, albeit a recent one, really terrifying.
		Like, I don't want people in my house.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It shouldn't be this way.
		But what everyone keeps saying is you just have to use the law as the law stands, which would be if you find a squatter in your house, You draft up a work agreement for the squatter.
		You then sign a lease for your friend.
		And then your friend calls the cops and says, the guy who works here evicted me illegally.
		And then what happens is the squatter becomes a worker for you.
		And you can say, yeah, look, I have a work arrangement with him.
		Here's my paper.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Here's the reality.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That seems wacky.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I know, but this is the problem.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is how society breaks down.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because people think if I am moral and correct, the police will have my back.
		I'm a good person.
		And the cops say, I don't care.
		I don't care who you think you are.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That's the thing people forget when they call the police.
		I remember this Australian woman who was shot to death by police I think in Chicago a couple of years ago when she called police because she thought someone was breaking into the house and then the police showed up and they shot her to death.
		But like that's what everyone forgets.
		When you call police they don't know who the good guy and the bad guy is.
		They just know that there's some people and there's a situation and they're there to protect themselves for the most part.
		And so they look at everybody like they're a criminal.
		This is like, you know how they talk about, you know, have the conversation with your kids about the cops?
		That's the conversation I had with my kid about the cops.
		Don't call the cops unless you're prepared to get shot by the cops.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I think the mistake is in perceiving the state and the mafia to be significantly different.
		What is the same sort of extortion fee that you pay to the mafia to lend your business protection?
		You pay property taxes, you pay local taxes.
		It's still contractual.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and the mafia's not there anymore!
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
		But they've left because the state became so powerful that they were the biggest gang in town.
		Now the state, even though it's extraordinarily powerful, it's still deteriorating in its ability to protect property rights.
		Therefore, you will see people turn back to organized crime to defend their property.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Isn't the real reason that we lost organized crime because of the RICO acts and Rudy Giuliani?
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		It can be argued that, but what is that?
		That's an extraordinarily powerful gang itself.
		It just became so much more powerful it was able to lock up the smaller gang.
		That's honestly my perception of the state versus mafia.
		It's a monopoly on violence.
		You either cede the monopoly on violence towards the state or you turn towards organized crime.
		I don't see it as being distinctly different because I still don't have an option to opt out if I want to protect my property.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you're saying it's Rudy Giuliani's fault that all this crime is happening?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm saying he fixed New York as usual.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I'm kidding.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You'd rely on local cops, ideally, so you don't have some organized state protection.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yes.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		The lowest level monopoly on violence is preferable to the highest level for sure, which is why I lean towards Texas when it comes to the border dispute versus the feds who have completely abdicated their duty.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm trying to wrap my mind around property rights and the evolution of property rights in the United States.
		I imagine when we first, this country began, it was like, get off my lawn!
		I mean, it was just like, shoot first, don't ask questions, basically, when there was like the frontier.
		You know, there were, the property rights were, I have a gun, basically.
		So when did it, how did it evolve until like...
		I'm safe now because my property is protected by the government.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I think it's a cultural framework. But yeah, I mean, Lockean property rights is kind of where
		the concept comes from. America was obviously very special.
		I think this is what people really need to understand is that what made America the wealthiest
		country on earth, primarily, above everything else, above our military might and everything
		else, was the fact that we honored property rights.
		And when you are an investor, which I was a money manager for, you know, 15 years, the biggest thing you're looking for is, obviously, above and beyond return on investment, is security of your investment.
		And if you don't have that, you're not going to deploy any capital.
		It freezes up the market.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		New York is a perfect example.
		Kevin O'Leary won't shut up about it.
		But I agree with him.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I'm just saying, this man is Well, the reason he's pissed is because he understands this is existential to his business.
		He is a real estate investor.
		He is an investor in businesses.
		If you don't have a clean chain of title and enforcement of property rights, you do not have your wealth.
		It is the end of the capitalist model.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So we have no choice right now but to start seeking out a plan B secondary coffee distributor?
		Casbrew is our distributors based in just out not in New York City, kind of maybe like an hour outside or around the in the metro but in the suburbs in a very moderate area.
		The guy who owns it super cool.
		They're great.
		They're anti cancel cancel culture.
		They're good people.
		But we have- that doesn't even mean anything.
		At any moment, New York has stated they will seize the assets of any business that dare oppose them.
		And so, you know, I'm talking with the team and I'm like, do we just say it's gonna be fine, nothing's gonna happen, and then one day Casper is shut down?
		And we're on a one-year hiatus where we have no coffee production?
		Or do we start looking for Reserve distributors who can pick up our formulas and start, you know, helping distribute our product for us in the event that New York makes this move, which I got to be honest.
		It's not even about I don't think that New York goes to our coffee company.
		It's like it's a lottery tickets chance.
		What I think happens is New York passes a law which puts a boot down on all of the businesses and then creates a very serious problem.
		You look at what they're already doing.
		They might put a morality bill or something.
		hate speech, who knows?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		They could do any of that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then there's going to be attacks or a levy or some ridiculous attack on the business.
		So it's just like, I don't know what's coming.
		All I know is we have no choice now because of what New York is doing.
		New York State with...
		I'll keep it as simple as I can.
		New York is a communist state.
		I don't like the word communism, because it's archaic, and we're dealing with something kind of different, but rooted in.
		So you can call it neo-communist or neo-com or something, but there needs to be a new word for what it is.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Anarcho-tyrannical communism.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's exactly how communism functioned.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well it's abolition of property rights.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		You need loyalty to the state.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Solzhenitsyn wrote about this.
		If you don't have loyalty to the state... What's happening with crime and with property is exactly what Solzhenitsyn wrote about.
		And so the issue now with New York is the state has decided, arbitrarily, they can take from whoever they want, they can do whatever they want, there are no rules, nothing applies to them.
		I hope Trump gets elected and I hope Trump sends in the feds and just occupies New York.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I can't go with that direction because I'm still a states' rights guy, and I think that New York has every right to deteriorate right before our eyes.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		That is incorrect.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They have an obligation to uphold the Constitution of this country and adhere to the supreme law of the land, which they're not doing.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		If that's the case, then Texas can't enforce the border, because it's the feds that have taken that duty on.
		I go the other route, where I say, decentralized authority, allow the states to compete.
		Innovation.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's actually incorrect, because the 9th and 10th amendments protect Texas' right to defend itself.
unidentified		In the abs- and I believe- How has that worked out for us so far, Tim?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't matter how it works out for us.
		What matters is, Texas has the absolute right to defend itself when the federal government is derelict.
		They're not imposing themselves against the rights of their citizens.
		New York is attacking the constitutional rights of American citizens.
		That is a rogue state that needs to be brought to heel.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, that is the justification that leads towards civil wars.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I am in favor of peaceful divorce.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If the federal government cannot enforce the Constitution, then there is no United States.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So would it be like they'd reduce funding to New York or something?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They would strip funding, but I think they need to go one step further.
		I think, I hope Trump gets elected and he appoints someone, maybe Kash Patel to AG, and then they immediately begin all the criminal probes and inquiries into Letitia James and Garan, for instance.
		Letitia James' donation history, all of that stuff.
		And at the very least, there should be tons of civil rights lawsuits brought against her and all these other officials in New York City and state.
		Kathy Hochul, for instance, bringing in National Guard, while in New York, the big story that Anna Kasparian is going off about, and I completely agree with her, is they found people living in a home with dismembered body parts, and they say, we're not going to put them in jail.
		You're free to go.
		Your trial will be at a later date.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Kathy Hochul wasn't even elected.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		This is nuts.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		No, she was the lieutenant governor under Cuomo.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		So she was elected because we elected the lieutenant governor.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So she was ready to go.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		She was like the next one in line.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		She was basically like VP.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I think that she and Letitia James colluded to oust Cuomo from office.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I think it's pretty clear that that's what they did.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Why do you think that?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Because they drummed up all of these sex things against him that were basically fake sex things.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		And then as soon as they pushed him out of office and got Kathy Hochul in there, they dropped all the charges.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Can I circle back to your point earlier?
		The real question of our time, honestly, and it's a big one, is have we become so different as a people, culturally and otherwise, that we can still coexist?
		And do you want to use the federal government to bring these people to heel?
		Because the reality is that many people in California and New York do not share my values or our values when it comes to upholding the Bill of Rights.
		I'm not interested in going to war with those people.
		I'm not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, the thing I disagree with you on is, I believe America is a country, I believe America exists.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I believe that we have a constitution laid forth by our founding fathers, and a great nation was built before our very eyes by many people who decided to plant trees whose shade they knew they would never sit beneath.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now you have communists stripping people of their rights, destroying this country, and it is imperative this country protects itself.
		The idea that you would allow an invading force to come in and you'd go, wait, wait, wait!
		Instead of actually defending our territory, let them have it.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, see, this is the difference, Tim.
		These aren't invaders.
		These are people that are ideologically invaders.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, they're invaders.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm talking about the people that come out of academia that believe in communism.
		These are not invaders.
		These are people born in America.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they bring in millions of people who are invaders.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they do that too, yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so, when those invaders Give the far leftists additional congressional seats, which is what they're doing.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Between 13 and 17, it is an invading, occupying force that opposes- And it's intended on conquest.
		I agree.
		And it is imperative this country brings California and New York to heel.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Should we bring back the fractional value of a human?
		Like, remember in the Constitution they said that slaves were worth, what, three-fourths of a human?
		So illegal immigrants counting towards- So in regards to counting them towards delegates to the- No.
unidentified		You don't think so?
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Because you're either a citizen or you're not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is exactly what the argument was in the Civil War.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The South said a slave is a person and should count towards apportionment and voting.
unidentified		Because it gave them more power in the... And then the Democrats said they shouldn't count at all.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're not free sovereign citizens.
		And so they compromised, and the South said, how about this?
		We count them three-fifths.
		Democrats love having second-class citizens.
		It's what they do.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		And that's why you see so much going on, too.
		You see people on social media being like, you know, if we get rid of the illegal immigrants, strawberries are going to cost $20.
		Like, do you really want that?
		We need these people to do all of the work that we're not going to do.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		If you're concerned about the cost of strawberries, you ought to be focused on ending the Federal Reserve.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I just saw a video of drones.
		Have you seen this?
		Swarm drones picking fruit off trees and going back to the bucket.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to jump to this clip.
		Sean Fitzgerald tweeted this out.
		Actual Justice Warrior.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, this was interesting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A lot of people in America, and yes, that includes on the left, feel exactly like Anna Kasparian in this mega rant.
		How does it make sense that you have the National Guard searching old ladies in the subway, but the four arrested for dismembering two people get released automatically without bail?
		It's about three minutes.
		Gotta play it.
ana kasparian ▲ ● ▼		Dismembering a corpse and hiding a corpse after dismembering it.
		Not bail eligible, not a serious crime.
		I'm not even kidding, guys.
		When Joy Behar outlined that case, I was like, she's crazy.
		This isn't a thing.
		This isn't real.
		This isn't real.
		So I looked it up.
		It's real, guys.
		It's real.
		Listen, if being on the left means supporting this, then I'm not on the left, and I'm okay with that.
		So let me give you the details of the case.
unidentified		It doesn't mean that.
ana kasparian ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I don't know.
unidentified		Let me give you the details.
		We're all on the left.
		We don't want people dismembering folks getting released.
		Only a couple of lunatic... Some do.
ana kasparian ▲ ● ▼		Some do.
ana kasparian ▲ ● ▼		Some do.
unidentified		I know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Anna's completely right.
		Yes, she is.
		100% right.
		There's videos of people cheering on violence and crime.
		There's videos of leftists smiling as people are beaten and injured.
		They cheer for this.
		We've got viral videos all over Twitter right now of mobs of men beating other people in the street, and they're like, look at these flash mobs, like the violence is getting crazy, and the left and the press and the Democrats ignore all of it because they do want the breakdown.
		And Cenk, desperate to maintain his position among his viewers, refuses to admit it, while Anna actually looks into it and says it's really happening.
		And I'll give another shout out to Anna Kasparian, When she looked into the Kyle Rittenhouse thing and goes, I was wrong about that.
		Remember that one?
		Kyle Rittenhouse defended himself.
		She said, he's bad.
		And then later was like, actually looked into and I realized, wow, I was wrong.
		Props to her.
		Listen to what she has to say.
		Listen to this story.
unidentified		What I was in the middle of saying is only a couple of lunatic activists are like, yeah, we're pro-dismemberment guys being let go.
		Okay, whatever.
		You don't represent the left at all.
ana kasparian ▲ ● ▼		These poor criminals who dismembered bodies.
		It's so unfair to put them in prison.
		Okay, let me give you the details of the actual case, okay?
		So four people were arrested in New York after body parts were found in Long Island, okay, dismembered body parts.
		The victims were two people from Yonkers, older individuals.
		So Folk County Police say 44-year-old Stephen Brown, 38-year-old Jeffrey Mackey, 40-year-old Amanda Wallace, and 33-year-old Alexis Nieves were charged with concealment of a corpse, tampering with physical evidence, and hindering prosecution.
		They have not been charged with murder.
		Prosecutors told a judge there was so much blood in the pipes, in pipes, sink, shower, and toilet of the Railroad Avenue home in Amityville, where the suspects were arrested that it was deemed uninhabitable.
		Police said they confiscated meat cleavers, butcher knives, flesh, and body parts.
		Attorneys for Brown and Mackey admitted that their clients lived in that home where the body parts and all that blood was found.
		But denied chopping up the 59-year-old woman and 53-year-old man whose last known address was in Yonkers.
		Wallace also lived with Brown and Mackey in Amityville.
		Police said that Knives is homeless, okay.
		All four pleaded not guilty.
		The judge released them without bail.
		They were fitted with GPS monitoring and must report for in-person probation and surrender their passports.
unidentified		I-.
unidentified		I don't care about their passports.
ana kasparian ▲ ● ▼		Dude, guys, guys, like what?
		Okay, so.
		Did further research because I just couldn't believe it.
		Here's more.
		With 2019 state reforms, mutilation and disposal of murdered corpses are among crimes that are no longer bail eligible.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Congratulations, New York, on that one.
ana kasparian ▲ ● ▼		The DA said the four went to barbaric lengths to cover the crime.
		What are we doing?
		What are we doing?
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea.
ana kasparian ▲ ● ▼		What are we doing, Cenk?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		What are we doing?
unidentified		What are we doing?
ana kasparian ▲ ● ▼		Someone tell me, what the F are we doing?
unidentified		Yeah, look, no one signed up for this.
		That's not true.
		I went to every progressive conference there was over the last 20 years.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't know how these laws got passed.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I watched it get passed.
		We wrote about it.
		We all kept saying this is a terrible idea.
		Don't have, you know, no bail all the time in New York City.
		We saw this.
		We saw this repeatedly.
		And then they said, oh, it's not for, it's only for nonviolent crimes.
		And then you'd see some guy get released with no bail and go back and kill his girlfriend who was arrested for harassing in the first place.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Did Cenk sleep through all of 2020 when there was mobs in the streets shouting to abolish the police?
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Did he miss that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He was initially defending the far left, later came out and was critical of violence and riots, probably when he decided he wanted to run for president and needed moderate support.
		Now that he's not anymore, no one on the left signed up for this.
		I'm so sick of hearing that, because it is quite literally only the left that is advocating for these laws.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the way he said that, no one signed up for this, is kind of, um, it's like if you give someone power, they tell you, it's going to be okay, it's going to be okay, it's going to be okay.
		For years, and you're like, I just don't think it is.
		No, there's all these problems.
		No, it's going to be okay.
		Then the final moment, they're like, oh, I didn't mean for this to happen.
		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I will say, real quick on that point.
		They say, it's not going to happen.
		You're overreacting.
		Far-right conspiracy theory.
		Then when it is happening, they say, it's not that big of a deal.
		You are overreacting.
		It's just a few fringe activists.
		And then when it is law and commonplace, they go, it's what we always wanted.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Right.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		And it's a good thing.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		They usually pivot all the way to that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But fortunately, Cenk's not that far gone.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But sorry to interrupt what you were saying.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, I think that there is one aspect of what Cenk is saying is true, in that no one elected these DAs that Soros funded and kind of pushed forward to implement.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		They did elect them.
		They elected them for this very purpose.
		The outcome is the goal.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		My point is, when they campaign, most of these DAs don't run on the policy of no longer enforcing property rights and violent crime.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Not all of them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, the Soros DAs quite literally say, we're going to release criminals.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're going to enact bail reform.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if that's true, then I have no idea why people are casting votes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They don't vote at all.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		We see it all the time.
unidentified		Most people don't vote.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		And we had the New York City Police Commissioner come out a year, two years ago, saying that we need to end bail reform because it's doing really badly.
		Illinois ended cash bail like three years ago.
		We see this all over the place.
		This is what happens.
		Violent people get released.
		They go back and wreak more havoc on society.
		And then you have Peter Navarro in prison while he's waiting for an appeal in his contempt of Congress charge for not complying with the January 6th Committee subpoena.
		And that's absolutely insane.
		You have this old man, it could potentially be a death sentence, just sitting there waiting for his appeal.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm gonna say it again.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't get bail, but all these people do?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		To all the people who keep saying you can't blame the cops, there are officers who put a journalist, Steve Baker, in shackles as they brought him in.
		It's federal law enforcement.
		Don't get me wrong.
		I get it.
		I get it very different.
		There are police officers that will lock the door on Peter Navarro.
		There's correctional officers that will open the door for criminals to be released and then arrest you for jaywalking.
unidentified		That's right.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		What's most infuriating to me, and I'll speak for the libertarians on this one, hopefully they allow me to, I'm heartbroken because the reality is that there was a lot of peaceful, you know, nonviolent offenders is what libertarians were most concerned about because being the land of the free and having the most per capita incarceration rate was an atrocity in my opinion.
		However, No one in our camp, as far as I know, was interested in releasing people that were guilty of violent crime or property crime.
		It was only the nonviolent drug offenses and, you know, diminishing the severity of sentences when it comes to nonviolent issues at minimum.
		This has become bedlam.
		And what will be a consequence of this?
		And this is, I think, plays perfectly into Clower Piven's strategy of sowing discord so that in that implosion, what will the people turn to?
		They're going to turn toward the state, the state which exactly is responsible for creating this crisis in the first place.
		And they're going to say, protect me.
		And that's going to increase their power ultimately.
		At this point, I can't even blame them, because if you're looking at this insanity like Ana Kasparian is, it's very human to say, I need someone to make this stop.
		And we do.
		We need to see it stop.
unidentified		How long until she announces she's voting Trump?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Oh, do you think she will?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Do you think she would do that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She might not vote.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Based on this rant, I believe there's a strong probability that Ana Kasparian eventually comes out and says she's voting Trump.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We gotta have her on some shows.
		Culture War, IRL, she liked one of my tweets about a month ago, too, about self-improvement.
		She's definitely on a good path.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think Anna's arc is that she, like many other liberals, began actually fact-checking things for the show, and it probably occurred when she was wrong about something, got a bunch of tweets, and she was like, what was I wrong about, and then checked.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I think being called a uterus-haver or or what infuriating.
unidentified		No, no, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She there was something that she was called up and she said, Hey, that's demeaning.
		Don't call me that.
		Yeah, they attacked her for it.
		I think this pushes her in the direction of look.
		When you fact check the news, you're instantly right wing.
		That's just it.
		Cenk Uygur is an agent of propaganda in that he says, it's only a few activists who want this.
		Tell me then how the law got passed, as they campaigned exactly for this.
		Because it is not!
		It is the leaders of the political movement who have been screaming to the high heavens, abolish the police outright!
		Writing in the New York Times, yes, we mean abolish the police!
		And then when you go, how did this happen?
		Because y'all campaigned for it!
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I will say this though, if you want to see the Anicasparians of the world actually consider Trump, that she had another vile rant just last week where she was arguing against our foreign policy and the aid that was being sent to Israel.
		Now, I think that it ought to be applied universally that the America First movement, which I think really brought Trump to power, was supposed to be focused on domestic politics and increasing and improving the lives of the American people and kind of setting to the back burner, at minimum, the foreign policy issues that we've been dealing with my entire lifetime.
		And now you have Trump that's campaigning on, he's the biggest friend of Israel, and he's going to take care of them better than Biden ever would.
		And I think that Anna Kasparian is not going to be a supporter of Trump for that reason.
		I think she's probably going to end up in the RFK camp, but he's also pretty pro-Israel, so I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Someone Anna knows is going to get mercilessly beaten in the streets of California.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like this crime is happening so intensely, it's affecting everybody.
		And it's fascinating that, especially with illegal immigration, when I talked to, like I mentioned a couple weeks ago, I was talking to this Gen Z guy and he says he's voting Trump.
		He voted for Biden in 2020.
		And I said, I think the reason that Gen Z is shifting towards Trump is because of illegal immigration.
		And he was like, yeah, that's it basically.
		And I was like, my view is, This woman, whose parents died and she inherited the house, is the perfect metaphor for this country.
		Our parents, and our parents' parents, and our parents' parents' parents, planted trees whose shade they knew they would never sit beneath.
		To be real, they planted trees they actually sat beneath.
		They built houses, they lived in them.
		They built bridges, they crossed them.
		And then they said, when you're old enough, you will inherit all that we have built.
		This woman's parents die.
		They leave the house to their daughter and their granddaughter.
		And the police arrest the woman for trying to take her birthright.
		And this is what we are seeing now in this country.
		They are bringing in criminal aliens, non-citizens, flooding this country.
		Crime is skyrocketing.
		And these Democrats don't care.
		Gen Z is now asking the question, where is the home that I was supposed to inherit?
		Where is the job?
		Where is the life?
		Where is the American dream?
		It's not there for me.
		Well, I got news for you.
		Democrats gave it away.
		They're giving it away every day at the southern border.
		That's why we oppose this.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		No, I think that's absolutely right.
		And when you see the migrant that came across that viral clip that I know you're going to play here soon, when you see in his eyes, there's a level of Like really the ideology, the philosophy actually, it transcribes pretty well onto leftist voters in this country.
		It is one of envy and viciousness.
		It is one of the desire to steal things that have not been earned by them.
		It is a perception that those that have earned have not in fact done so in a just fashion.
		It's one of jealousy and envy.
		And I think it's a very, it's a, You know, I'm not even a very religious person, but I think it's very, you know, they talk about this in the Bible quite a bit.
		So it's one that leads towards disaster.
		And I think that that's what we're witnessing is decades of people being educated at the highest levels in academia to believe that meritocracy is no longer valid.
		That if you get ahead, it's in some way evil.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		You don't have to believe that stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to the story.
		We have the tweet from Libs of TikTok.
		Holy smokes!
		TikToker is advising illegals on how to take over Americans' homes via progressive squatters' rights laws.
		This TikToker boasts that his friends already took over seven homes.
		Unreal.
		Now, speaking Spanish, I don't know, uh... I mean, there's an English translation, I guess.
		We can play the video.
		Oh, we love X. Let's play the video, and then the video freezes, because that's what X does.
unidentified		I thought about invading a house in Yunee State.
		Now that I know that there is a law that says that if a house is not inhabited, we can expropriate it.
		Capiche, guys?
		Here in Yunee State, the invasion of land is also applied.
		And I think that will be my next business.
		Invading abandoned houses.
		I've been looking for some codes with my African friends and they told me that they already have like seven expropriated houses.
		And as the saying goes, you have to look for the way back.
		And the way back right now is to invade houses.
		We are in a situation of the street and this is the only way we have to not live in the street and not be a public
		burden.
		The law says that abandoned houses, deteriorated and in poor condition, we can come and repair them, live in them
		and if we can, sell them.
		I thought they did get any tough on Asia. Okay, so I'll speak Spanish. I
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I only, uh, I could understand about half of what he was saying.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Same.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The, the top section in writing on the video says, we could invade houses in the U.S., what do you think of the new law?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And, uh, you got a guy basically saying, yo, let's go and take these houses.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well I think this is actually a good opportunity for me to push back against the open borders crowd and the libertarian movement.
		There is this perception amongst many in the open borders libertarian movement that every migrant is just someone looking for a better life that ultimately if they were to be here they would have and uphold our values and that's as simple as it gets and they ought to have all of the same rights that we do, human rights and whatnot.
		I am a firm believer that the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, does not grant us the right to self-defense.
		I do think that it is a universal human right.
		However, you do not have a right—not all 7 billion people on the planet have a right to be an American, and therefore, not all 7 billion people have a right to come to America while armed.
		That looks like an invasion to me, and as a domestic, you know, born-and-bred person, I think it's fair to perceive it that way, particularly when you have gentlemen like this that are coming across the border saying, I intend to seize your homes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So for people who weren't watching, there is a translation, but I'll give you the gist of it.
		Dane hit me up.
		He speaks Spanish.
		His first language.
		He's saying there's a law you can steal someone's house if they're not in it.
		And then he says his next business will be to invade houses since some African friends of his have already done it seven times.
		It's the only way to get by and not be in the streets.
		Steal them, fix them, and resell them.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He said something about his right of return, he mentioned.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Something like that, yeah.
		Land invasion.
		Crazy.
		You know, honestly?
		I look forward to hearing the news.
		These people are going to go to New York.
		It's insanely easy when we look at that woman who got arrested and take nothing they're going to be able to do about it.
		Someone's... Here's what they're going to do.
		They're going to go to a cell phone store.
		They're going to say, yo, give me a cell phone.
		And they say, what's your address?
		And they're going to tell them the address.
		And they say, okay.
		Then they're going to say, email me the bill.
		They get emailed the bill and the receipt with the address on it.
		Boom, just like that.
		Now they can go to the place and say, I have a receipt from one month ago.
		See, I live here.
		That's it.
		They can get an Airbnb.
		Pay rent to the Airbnb, get a cell phone, and then go to the Airbnb, stand outside, call the cops, and say, I've been unlawfully convicted.
		Can you open the door?
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they'll... Okay.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, and then, I mean, the obvious next step, and this once again plays into Cloward-Piven, is that amnesty is not far off.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you have to... You've got to explain Cloward-Piven.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Who is that?
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Cloward-Piven, it was a political strategy that was formulated in the 1960s by two gentlemen named Cloward and Piven that they ultimately... I believe you're incorrect.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I thought it was just Fox Pippin as a woman.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, sorry, not gentlemen.
		My mistake.
		Yeah.
		But anyways, the concept was that in order to collapse the system and overwhelm it to
		create, it's basically, it plays right into Marxism-Communism that in the ashes you can
		create whatever you wish.
		So the way that you create the ashes is to overwhelm the system.
		You overwhelm it from multiple fronts, including debt, finance, manipulation of the currency,
		and ultimately, abdication of duty when it comes to defending property rights, things
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		of that nature.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You overwhelm every element of the system to where the system can't hold anything anymore
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's what the British tried to do to the Chinese at the end of the 1800s, too, what the Boxer Rebellion was all about.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They were like, get out, get out, stop shipping opium into our country, you're killing us.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I think it's really important for people to understand that Illegal immigration has been an issue our entire lifetimes, but when you look at the historical averages throughout the Bush administration all the way into the Clinton administration, we're now talking about figures that are 10x what they were on average.
		That is not organic.
		And if you actually look at- No, it's definitely not.
		It's not organic, but people continue to talk about this as if, like, well, these people are just here looking for a better life.
		Look, that doesn't happen organically.
		It hasn't happened until now.
		You have to ask yourself why.
		If you look at the United Nations, if you look at the funding, the United States taxpayer is being robbed to fund the United Nations, which then turns around and hands out cell phones and maps and financial support to this migrant caravan operation that is ran by these NGOs to get these people here.
		The reason that it's north of three million annually and increasing is because it's an op that's being ran.
		If you look at the United Nations plans when it comes to Agenda 2030 and all of the things that play into the World Economic Forum, this is not organic.
		And until people are willing to have that conversation, until people to realize that this is not just happening out of the blue, if you look at what's happened in Europe, if you looked at the crime rates that are increasing, all of this is coming for America.
		And it's like, I feel like people are sleepwalking right into it.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		So the other thing too that I think people don't realize is that if you're a would-be illegal immigrant, you can download an app that was manufactured by the Biden administration called CBP One, and it's an app where you can request an appointment to present yourself at a land port of entry to enter illegally.
		You can do that.
		You can make an appointment.
		And the Biden administration also in 2023, they said that their plan was to double the number of refugees from the Western Hemisphere and would commit to welcoming thousands of additional refugees per month from the Western Hemisphere, the goal of doubling.
		And it was, where were they?
		It was Venezuela, Nicaragua, Cuba, and Haiti were part of the expanded parole process announced to accept up to 30,000 individuals per month from those nations.
unidentified		Wow.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That is their plan.
		They said it.
		They put it on their website.
		They said this is their plan.
		It's not just the United Nations, it's literally the Biden administration telling everybody that this is the plan.
		Like you saw after Biden was elected, there were people lining up at the border with Thank You Joe Biden t-shirts on.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, and keep in mind that the United Nations is predominantly funded by the United States of America, so any plan that they have that they're pushing is ultimately still being dictated to a certain extent by U.S.
		government officials, and vice versa.
		It's kind of a two-way street.
		The reality is that if you actually look at the language that they're using, they're talking about equity.
		They're talking about all of the same woke nonsense that we're all pushing back against in the United States of America.
		This is a global plan to bring about equity when it comes to nations.
		They want to have the poorest amongst us in all of the world It is now our duty, because we've had it too good for too long, we now have to have these people come here so that they can benefit from the institutional wealth and success that we've had in America.
		I reject that entirely.
		I am not a globalist.
		I still believe that there is something to be said for meritocracy.
		If you want to uphold what made America great, including property rights and capitalism, You're going to have to reject this open borders nonsense.
		And if you don't, if you refuse that path, you will end up in a socialist hellhole.
		And that is exactly what the LP of Louisiana and any of these open borders libertarians are advocating on behalf of.
		And I'm going to lose a hell of a lot of support for saying this, but I am telling the goddamn truth.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You are in the Anna Kasparian camp where you're saying, if this is what it means to be a libertarian, I'm not a libertarian anymore.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And we don't, we don't, we don't have a token libertarian to be like, no, no, you're okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can still be a libertarian.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, and you know what?
		That's fine.
		If they want to reject me, the delegates will decide end of May if my perception of these matters is in alignment with their belief system.
		Murray Rothbard had a very similar revelation in the 1990s.
		He realized that the USSR had used illegal immigration to flood Eastern Bloc nations to topple them.
		I believe strongly that's what we're witnessing.
		If a libertarian is going to advocate on behalf of open borders when that is in alignment with globalist plans that are being pushed by government institutions all over the world against the American people, then you have lost the plot.
		You've lost your mind.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You mentioned that the U.N.
		is part of this 2030 agenda thing where they're involved with funding the migrants and that you said the United States is the biggest funder of the U.N.
		but I think I take issue with that only in that it's the banks, it's the global banking establishment using the U.S.
		dollar through the Federal Reserve, through the Bank for International Settlements to pump the U.N.
		and screw the people of the United States because American constitutionalism is in the way of oligarchy.
		It's blocking the technocracy that's trying to control the planet.
unidentified		Right.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I agree.
		These are supernational institutions, but at their core, though, they uphold values that I find totally reprehensible.
		I'm not interested in globalism.
		I am not interested in socialism or globalism, and these people push that through every lever of power you can imagine.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to introduce you in our next segment to the death of the Libertarian Party's chances at winning anything.
		Now, of course, it's fair to say no one really expected Libertarians to win.
		And I'm not trying to be a dick.
		Sorry, Clint.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		It's okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But the Libertarians do very, very well, but they never do quite well enough.
		Well, now we have this tweet from the Libertarian Party of Louisiana.
		Whether you're a citizen, legal resident, or undocumented migrant, you deserve the right to defend yourself and your loved ones.
		Rights are for everyone.
		Arm the migrants!
		The purpose of the Second Amendment is to protect people and their rights.
		Those under attack deserve the right to defense no matter where they're from.
		The reason why I say this is officially the death of Libertarian Party's chances at anything is that in this country you have Democrats, Moderates, Republicans, Independents, all in agreement that there is a crisis of illegal immigration and crime.
		And now the Libertarian Party of Louisiana publicly announced we should give guns to these people.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now, I know it's just the Libertarian Party of Louisiana, but we know how branding works.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		It's not beneficial to the broader movement, in my opinion.
		In my estimation, no disrespect to the LP Louisiana, but they are the Funhaus Mirror's version of the LP&H of New Hampshire.
		And you know what?
		The people that love this messaging absolutely despise me, and they despise the Libertarian Party of New Hampshire, and they despise Dave Smith, and they despise Ron Paul, and that's fine.
		If you want to have that fight, we can have it.
		As I said, the delegates will decide.
		Do you want to uphold the vision that Ron Paul had moving forward and elect someone like myself to be our representative, or are you interested in going in the complete polar opposite direction?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'll jump to this story from the Postmillennial.
		Federal judge rules illegal immigrants can possess firearms under 2A.
		Now, at first, I tweeted, don't care, Second Amendment, we should just be able to defend ourselves.
		But someone instantly made the correct point that as criminals, they actually have a due process restriction on those rights.
		And yeah, actually, I agree with that.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I agree with that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So typically, when it comes to constitutional rights, they can be restricted through due process.
		However, considering these people are already determined to have entered the country illegally, the crime is an afterthought.
		Criminal status is inherent in criminal alien, therefore they should not be able to possess firearms as they are criminals.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I gotta tie it right back into Clara Piven.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		If Donald Trump is to be re-elected and he is to do, as he's promised many times, the largest deportation plan in American history, well, if you're gonna arm the migrants, that's going to make this a very tumultuous, as Luke Rudowsky might say, situation.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		TUMULTUOUS!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think the unfortunate reality is No matter what ends up happening, if the end goal was to create an authoritarian machine, it is inevitability.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right now, Donald Trump will get elected, and when he does, he will begin deporting people, they will begin going after corrupt individuals, and they will move towards a security state in an effort to stop the crime created by Democrats.
		I see no other solution to dealing with the security issues in our cities and crime and illegal immigration.
		I suppose perhaps the answer is our communities need to be stronger.
		We need to defend ourselves.
		We need to go to either community centers once a week to meet our neighbors or church, whatever it may be.
		But short of that happening, what likely will happen is in the event Trump gets elected and begins to enact what we would feel is a cleanup.
		He will not be president forever, and then if Democrats make a move in 2028 and inherit any of these powers, then we're just in for hell.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Then we're screwed, yeah.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That's the thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So it's a rock and a hard place.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Your enemies are going to use the same things that you, you know, put aside for yourself.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		And this is exactly why I was pushing back earlier and saying, let's let New York go because I would rather have tech—no, just hear me out.
		The reason I'm saying that is because I want to have the Floridas and the Texases of the world allowed to uphold my beliefs.
		This country is divided irreparably.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Texas is on the brink.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's true, it is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, communists have taken New York, so we better let them take it.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		That's insane.
		You can say it's insane, Tim, but here's the reality.
		Those people have all of the institutional power.
		What you're advocating for now is far more likely to be used against you than you will ever use it against them.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		So take the institutions.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Welcome to war.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not interested in war.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Which side were you on?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Who are the good guys in the Civil War?
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I don't think there was good guys.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The ones that didn't fight.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		I don't know about that.
		You had slavery.
		That should not exist.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But then you had Abraham Lincoln being like, let's arrest politicians and judges.
		Let's arrest people without cause and without... One guy famously got arrested and was locked up and he refused to cooperate.
		He was like, screw you.
unidentified		F off.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He was in Maryland.
		And they created a corridor from D.C.
		through Maryland to Pennsylvania where they suspended habeas corpus and just arrested random people who they thought were troublemakers.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They arrested, I think it was like what, 26 members of the Maryland state legislature for having confederate sentiment.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That's basically what Katonji Brown-Jackson was arguing for in the Murthy vs. Missouri case the other day.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Well, not arguing for, she's not supposed to argue for anything, but there she was out there saying, doesn't the government have the right to basically violate the First Amendment in a time of crisis?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's try this.
		It's horrifying.
		Why didn't the Confederates march after the First Battle of Bull Run into D.C.?
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		You tell me, I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They didn't think there was a war.
		They thought, that was it, we repelled the North, the North invaded the South, and we pushed them back, it's over.
		And then the North said, we need more troops, more people go.
		And it expanded the Civil War.
		So when you talk about, we should have a national divorce, we should let these states go, those states don't stop.
		The communists who are in those states aren't gonna be like, yay, we're independent now!
		They're gonna say, okay, send the police down to Jersey, Jersey's ours next.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then you're gonna go, you can have Jersey.
		Then they're gonna go, okay, Maryland.
		You can have Maryland.
		Now Rhode Island.
		It's all yours.
		All yours.
		And then eventually all you have is Florida.
		And then they surround Florida and they go, and now we will do what you did not.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		And we will take you by force.
		This is always the biggest debate when it comes to military conflict.
		Where do you put your feet in the ground?
		Are you willing to fight at this point, or do you think it's more prudent and practical to withdraw, reinforce, and re-up?
		I don't know what the answer is.
		But at my core, I'm extraordinarily against war.
		So I'm going to avoid it until it's the absolute last option.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it is not war.
		It is the prevention of war for Donald Trump to Look, Fonny Willis is accused of perjury.
		The guy she was dating who resigned was accused of perjury.
		The judge telling them to break up confirmed there was an improper relationship, but then doesn't penalize Fonny Willis in any way.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, there needs to be a criminal investigation there.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		The Trump lawyers have permission to appeal on that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And Donald Trump getting into office and then saying, I want my AG to investigate perjury and crimes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Hunter Biden accused of perjury in this hearing.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		How is he not in contempt of Congress?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is amazing.
		Bob Ulynski testifies that Jim Biden is in text records confirmed to be at a meeting that he said to Congress he did not attend.
		That's perjury.
		It is not declaring war for Trump to be like, OK, well, the law should be upheld.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's the issue.
		Will Trump do any of what you're describing?
		And I've said it many times, if Trump's rhetoric matched his actions, there could be some hope for a second term of him.
		But when it comes to going after, we're talking about the most deeply embedded, most powerful institutions that have ever existed.
		And it's one man who's facing 750 years in prison and half a billion dollar fine right now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What do you think Trump's doing right now?
		If the concern really was that Trump would do nothing, Trump would have immediately gone to the deep state and said, I'm not going to run again.
		Leave me alone.
		Let me go live in my golden toilet.
		And they would have said yes.
		Instead, he says, I declare war.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe, maybe, maybe or they would have come after him regardless, because they want to send a message to any political dissident in this country that if you challenge us, you go away forever.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think Trump could have easily gone to them and said, It's over.
		I'm just going to be an old man on my golden toilet.
		And they would have said, okay.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		And I wouldn't have blamed Trump if he had gone that route.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And my point is, the fact that Trump is actually fighting all of this indicates when he gets in, it is going to be fire and brimstone.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		You might be right.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Or it could also be out of desperation that he realizes if he doesn't prevail in this election, he's going to prison for the rest of his life.
unidentified		You're right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So then when he gets elected, what does he do?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Go, now I have four years to hold off the deep state?
unidentified		Yeah.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if he has learned the lessons, the reason I'm skeptical, other than what happened in 2020, is because he has already allegedly said he's not going to have Vivek as his VP.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I think that he needs a guy like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's going to put him in a cabinet position, put him head of Homeland Security.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Is that the report?
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right, so when Trump says, no, Vivek, you're not going to be VP, I'm considering you for head of Homeland Security, or Secretary of Homeland Security, or whatever the position is, that sounds more like he goes, Vivek, you need to do what you said you're going to do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to put you in the position to do it.
unidentified		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		VP wouldn't do anything.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Then that's great.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the VP doesn't do anything.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Just look at Kamala Harris.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The VP's in life insurance policy, and he should definitely have Vivek as his VP.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		This is my point.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		If you're going to challenge the deep state, you've got to have an insurance company.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Whoever he picks needs to be worse than him.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Select me, Trump.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I'm right here, buddy.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		So that nothing happens to him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, who would be a good, like, Vermin Supreme would be great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's got to be Vivek.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Oh my goodness.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because they'd be like, that's basically a threat.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I feel like what we really need is someone who could go out there on the campaign trail and, like, be as strong at rallies and things as Trump is.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Vivek's the only guy in the GOP I've seen do that even close.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		Yeah, that's the challenge.
		But the rumor is Homeland Security, in which case that's very much likely Vivek firing everybody.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		He would fire everybody.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		He said he would fire everybody.
unidentified		Well, that's fantastic.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		He would fire everyone and then deport everyone.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I was interested in him as AG because I think that prosecutions is what's really necessary.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but that's what cash can do.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe if it goes with cash, that'd be interesting.
		Look, there's lots of options and there's lots of reasons for optimism.
		I'm just saying, this dude is up against it.
		They are coming, they are throwing everything they have at him, and they haven't even really begun to fight.
		They can go way harder.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We don't know.
		We don't have any guarantees that Trump walks into the White House, throws off his jacket, and he's just got like, he's been working out, he's ripped, and he's like, you have no idea what comes next.
		I wish.
		Perhaps what we get is just a little bit, just firing of bureaucrats.
		You get a cabinet that actually starts dealing with crimes, actually starts enforcing the law.
		It shutters what we're seeing with Georgia and New York and this Democrat corruption.
		It may be.
		Joe Biden is all they have left.
		Who do they have for 2028?
		They got nothing.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		What about Newsom?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Probably that's about it.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Newsom, like... American psycho?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I gotta tell you, Newsom has, I don't know, B minus, right?
		Trump has X factor.
		Biden certainly doesn't.
		But they squeezed everything they could out of universal mail-in voting and this shadow campaign, they called it in Time Magazine, to make sure Biden won.
		But Biden also did, to be fair, have that Obama nostalgia effect.
		After him, Michelle Obama is a maybe.
		But she clearly doesn't want to do it.
		We'll see.
		But they do not have any backbench.
		It may be that after Trump...
		There's a huge Republican backbench.
		I mean, Tulsi Gabbard's effectively a Republican at this point.
		People are talking about her as potentially VP.
		She's moderate.
		Like, you've got a wide range of Republican potential candidates for 2028.
		Unfortunately, it's not DeSantis, but you know, that's his own fault.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I just, what I'm disappointed in is that, not even setting the Trump issue aside, is just that there hasn't been any justice for the 2020 era that has come from the conservative Rand House.
		And it's like, that was the one thing, you know, with the Thomas Massys and the Rand Pauls of the world, those are my people.
		And the fact that we haven't seen, you know, any criminal charges that are being brought, and I know it's Biden's AG, but it's like, man, we need to have repercussions for what they put us through in 2020.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		But look at what they did to Delaware, right?
		So they had Hunter Biden, they had charges for him, the IRS was like, hey, there's definitely charges here, and they essentially colluded so that Hunter Biden didn't face any charges.
		And then the guy who was appointed to be the special counsel to investigate Hunter Biden is the Attorney General for Delaware!
		Who, like, used to chill with Beau Biden.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to the story from the Postmillennial.
		California rep Katie Porter predicts Trump will soon, quote, have his demise.
		I don't know what his demise is going to be, but he's going to have his demise.
unidentified		I do think that we're allowing, in a larger way, the fear of Trump.
		The stakes are so high for LGBTQ rights, for abortion rights, for all of these things that we care passionately about.
		To allow certain forces that benefit from the status quo to convince us we can't afford to change and we can't afford to be different.
		And I think the ultimate problem with that is we're having a real problem with younger voters.
		We're having a problem with people choosing to register no party preference.
		How do we build our party?
		What is our forward future message?
		And I think if I take anything away from this race, I really tried to focus on that.
		What are we going to do next?
		Where do we go in our economy?
		Where do we go in our society?
		And I think that the specter of Donald Trump looms large, and I absolutely feel that.
		And so people were like, we got to think everything, every decision has to be made in tension with Trump.
		Soon, Trump will lose.
		Or go to prison, or... I don't know.
		Have a heart attack.
		I'm not sure.
		I don't know what his demise is going to be, but he'll have his demise.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The hamburger from heaven.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		The hamburger from heaven.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Jesus, these people are sick.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Dude, Trump was the first president.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		And he was an Obama speechwriter, that guy.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		We had Keith Olbermann was, was one can hope or whatever he said when.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, right.
unidentified		Yeah.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, these people are, these people are deranged.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You know, for, I mean, we have talked about Joe Biden being very old, nearing the end of his life multiple times.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Those, both those guys are very old.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's not out of the question to talk about either of them dying.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, but none of us have said we hope and pray for a hamburger from heaven.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's not the way forward.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, we said I want Joe to comfortably sit in his wheelchair with a blanket on his lap in the sun and enjoy his days.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I keep saying he should be surrounded by his grandbabies.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yes, even that little one in Tennessee.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, for a time, Katie Porter was perceived as being kind of one of the future representatives of the Democrats.
		I mean, they're just so—they're such deeply unimpressive people.
		And I'm telling you, in all sincerity, the fact that these people rule over me, every day I wake up pissed about it.
		None of them are superior to anyone sitting in this room right now.
		They're all just criminals to their core.
		They're not even good at lying, but they made a career out of it.
		They're reprehensible.
		They're just really, really bad human beings.
		And I don't know how we've gotten to this situation, other than to say that public education has made people so stupid that they continue to put these scumbags in power, and no one ever even reflects on it.
		It's amazing.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I also think that the power makes people scumbags.
		The opportunity to grab whatever you need and to be given things that you didn't know existed by corporations and stuff.
		I don't even think we should have humans in that role.
		I think we're getting to the point where that kind of thing can be automated.
		Maybe not all of it.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I go the other route and say that those rules just shouldn't exist.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		How can you uncorrupt that system?
		It's totally corrupt.
		The whole way it's built is like a corrupted pyramid.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is why usually political establishments swing hard left to hard right is that once it gets this corrupted, it requires a strongman dictator to come in and arrest and lock up all these all these criminals, but then because he's holding that
		that ring of power so close, he's oftentimes corrupted himself. This is going to be, we're
		going to find out a lot about Bukele in the not too distant future with El Salvador, because
		what he did was basically miraculous, but he took extraordinary power to be able to do so.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And everyone's happier.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		They are for now.
		But will he relinquish it?
		Will he still honor his principles?
		I don't know.
		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think he will.
		The question is, though, it's not so easy to just say, will he give up his power?
		The question is, what if far-left, WEF-sponsored dude comes up and says, vote for me?
		Should he then give up his power to them?
		The answer is no.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And I agree, obviously, but it's still, can you have a stranglehold on power and maintain who you are?
		There's very few people, Ron Paul is one of the only, Thomas Massey are the type of guys that I think could actually be that close to the ring and not lose their soul.
		It's extraordinarily rare.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Have you guys heard this stuff, like, I just, I hear these rumors, I love the eschatology stuff, about the Red Heifer, we talked about the Red Heifer, you guys know the Red Heifer?
		So apparently there's, like, potentially a bunch of red heifers that may- Explain that really quick for people that are listening.
		Alright, so, uh, I don't know a whole lot about it, only a little bit, because people have brought it up on the show, and we looked into it, we talked about it on The Culture War.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		At least you know it's a female, I didn't even know Claren and Piven were females.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You don't know who Francis Fox Piven is?
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		No, I do.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I just, I read the paper.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I didn't look into it.
		So, uh, the Red Heifer is basically, there's a prophecy that if there is a perfect Red Heifer with no blemish, they can sacrifice it at the third temple or whatever, which signifies, will bring about the Messiah.
		And so there are Christians who believe it will bring, it's the return of Jesus.
		And there are Jews who believe it is the first coming of their Messiah.
		But that puts them at direct odds with Muslim nations because they would basically have to... What's that mosque?
		I don't know enough about it.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the one... Al-Aqsa?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Al-Aqsa.
		Yes, because they would have to take that position so they could sacrifice an offer.
		And then now we've got, like, there's this solar eclipse coming, and then a lunar eclipse that's forming an X over a certain part of the country.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, a bunch of towns named Nevaeh.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I read this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I learned last week.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I didn't look too much into it, but basically people are like, yeah, the world's ending.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I learned last week, and correct me if I'm wrong anyone that studies Judaism, that the second coming of Christ is going to be either economically and peacefully, or it's going to be a warlord that does it through death and destruction and chaos.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		So we get to pick right now.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We're choosing our path.
		It's going to be one or the other.
		And it's either going to be a very wealthy guy that can unite the world, or it's going to be a killer that unites the world through military force.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I've got to take this opportunity to shout out Candace Owens.
		This lady has been going to the mat fighting off the recent attacks that she's been dealing with, and I've been blown away at her courage that she's been willing to do so.
		She also was kind enough to have Dave Smith on the show, and they had a fantastic conversation.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Shout out to Candace.
		I don't think we had that story pulled up at all.
		Candace was talking to a rabbi and he got upset and said that you're being anti-semitic.
		But the first thing he says is you're being misogynistic.
		He's just using buzzword.
		He doesn't even know what he's saying.
		He says that she's being misogynistic.
		That should be the headline.
		The rabbi told her she's being misogynistic.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I watched the entire 90-minute interview and it was spectacular having her actually play the content of her having the conversation with Tucker.
		And then the guy doubling down right after she proved out, I condemned Hamas.
		I said it right here.
		And he's just like, yeah, but it was, you know, moral equivalency and yada yada yada.
		And it was just like, man, you can't win.
		You can't win.
		But I think she did an incredible job at staying calm because I could not have sat there for 90 minutes having someone calling me an anti-Semite over and over again.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Back to what we were talking about with eschatology, I have this image where we had an annular solar eclipse in October and a total solar eclipse April 8th and the X is over Texas.
		That's very close to where all the bad stuff is happening right now.
		It's basically right there, isn't it?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and this simulation is awesome.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		And it's also SpaceX, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or is it, no, Eagle Pass.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Eagle Pass, yep.
		It goes right over Eagle Pass and like 20 different towns named Nevaeh.
		I was like, what are the odds of this?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How do you spell the Nevaeh?
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I think it's N-A-V-E-A-H.
		It's like heaven backwards.
		I could be wrong on the spelling, but I read a thread.
		It seemed like some schizo post.
		I have no idea if it's legitimate, but I always find this stuff very interesting regardless of whether or not it's true.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm finding more and more of the synergy of reality.
		It is very real.
		The internet itself is an aspect of our synergy.
		We're coalescing and coordinating as the species, and it's like, yo, this is whatever you want to call it.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of people that are in positions of power that do believe in this stuff, and I think that many of them are actually trying to drive us towards it.
		And that gives me great pause as a non-believer that you have people that have access to nuclear weapons that are like thinking, hey, we gotta make this happen!
		It's like, good lord, man.
		No thank you.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That sounds demonic.
		I'm not very religious, but like, you're gonna try and force a prophecy?
		That sounds demonic.
		Those things are supposed to happen out of benevolence, I think.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		To me, it seems as if that would be against God's will.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I would hope.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's the will of man.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They're forcing the will of man.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Above God, yeah.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		So I don't know, that's my non-believer belief, but we'll see.
unidentified		Yeah, we will.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I just hope we don't.
		I hope I don't live through Revelations, man.
		Come on, don't do this to me.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We are in Revelations right now.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's what the internet is kind of part of, that tool of revealing what we're seeing.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		They got to you too, Ian?
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		You believe it now?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I don't, I don't, I mean, I do believe, regardless of a Bible, we're in a time of revealment right now.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's true.
		Definitely.
		And I hope that that's the case.
		Speaking of revealing, I gotta, gotta deliver this to you.
		This is from the demonic one herself, Josie the Redhead Libertarian.
		Is it a pie?
unidentified		No.
unidentified		Take it back.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		She painted you some artwork, so she asked me to deliver that to you.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is it a painting of a pie?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Probably.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, while Tim opens this, I'll plug my Twitter, at Liberty Log Pod.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Follow me, thank you.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Oh, it's a picture of Mr. Bocas.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Shout out to that guy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Legend.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Legend.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		He will live in eternity.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That was him.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That guy was so unique as a cat.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you, Josie.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Josie.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What were we talking about?
		Oh yeah, they're predicting Trump's death and all that stuff.
		So we were talking about the end of days.
		I brought that up because people have brought it up to me.
		Because if there's one thing people pay attention to, it's not politics.
		It's loose eschatology.
		And what I mean is, it's not literal eschatology.
		It's basically just being like, I heard a rumor the world's ending.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then when you look at how crazy things have gotten, and you've got this like solar eclipse and then solar eclipse making an X right over basically Eagle Pass.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's wild.
		That's so weird.
		I mean, the sun is a magnetic being, you know, so is the earth and so are we, but that's pretty... the moon, you know, it's... phew, that is so cool.
		What is going on, dude?
		They're going to talk about this time in history for like a billion years.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		If it's actually revelations, there's going to be no talk about what's going on right now, I don't think.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure.
		The apocalypse, I think that comes out, we come out of it.
		Okay.
		Yeah.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, those that are left behind, is that the case?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Was it hell on earth for eternity or whatever?
unidentified		Yeah.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		So I don't think they're going to be having many books written or conversations if in fact that's what we're facing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm just imagining, like, well, we're all doing the show, and then all of a sudden, like, Seamus just starts lifting up from his seat, and we're like, wait a minute, and then he's like, oh, I guess it's happening.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And he just rips through the ceiling, and then he's gone, and we're like, damn.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What are you gonna do?
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		God would never accept that alcoholic.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Shots fired, Seamus!
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Sorry, I'm just upholding Luke's legacy of talking crap to Seamus.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think ultimately it's about doing the work every day.
		Because we can talk about what's going to happen in the future, but all it is is we are just living the present every moment.
		So the future is the moment.
		Next time.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And we've got to create the best version of it.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		And I think this has been, you know, the point that I've been trying to make with my Twitter and my show Liberty Lockdown is like, I'm trying to reach the libertarian audience that is already, you know, in terms of understanding the paradigm that we're existing under currently, they're miles ahead of the average person because they've been very skeptical of institutional power.
		They've been very skeptical of the media.
		They've been very skeptical of the financial institutions.
		All of these people are very, very advanced when it comes to trying to become independent and function outside of the system.
		But I think that many of them still fall prey to not understanding the complexity of the power structure that rules over us.
		And this is why I think that the open borders issue has been such a dividing one.
		And I think this is why this shock jock type posting where it's like, arm the migrants.
		really doesn't do us justice as messengers because we still function under a democratic system.
		People are still going to have to vote for us.
		And if your perception is that there is any electoral pathway forward, which obviously they don't think so, because otherwise you wouldn't be posting something like that, it is extraordinarily unpopular to say that the 30 million plus or the 5 million, 7 million that have come across during the Biden administration, many of which are gang members, I might add, Not all.
		Not even close to all.
		A very small fraction.
		But some of them are very violent people.
		And for the LP Louisiana to say, arm them, is just so detached from reality.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what they need to focus on is, yes, immigrants can have guns if they're legally here.
		That's okay.
		You don't have to be a citizen to have a gun.
		You gotta be legal.
		You gotta be here legally.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, my perception is this.
		Everyone has a God-given right to defense.
		You have every right to defend yourself in the nation that you live in.
		Not everybody has a right to live here.
		So that's the dividing line.
		I'm not saying that the Bill of Rights grants us our right to self-defense.
		That is God-given.
		However, not everybody is an American.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but still, if a dude's a Palestinian in the United States and he gets jumped, he has the right to defend himself.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		No, of course not.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's a human right.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That has nothing to do with the United States.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Of course, but do you want people that came to this country illegally, that have criminal records from the nations they're coming from, to be armed legally in America?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		But now they're going to tell you that you're against the human right of self-defense.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Or they'll try and do amnesty and then they'll say, look, now they're all legal.
unidentified		Exactly.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And I'll be like, oh god, I'm eating my own words.
		It's legal now.
		All you need to do is make it legal.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		And then the electoral outcome becomes an impossibility.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		It's just complete uniparty rule for the rest of our existence.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's this election.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So we've got to resist this amnesty crap.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If Donald Trump does not win, it is going to be Democrat single-party North Korea.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But speaking about, like, just acknowledging reality, okay?
		Like Ron Paul was saying, he believes the American Republic was lost on November 22nd, the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
		So, like, Trump, really?
		You think he's going to stand up against the Empire?
		Like, we know what happened to all those Roman Emperors.
		They just kept getting killed one after the other, one after the other, one after the other, and, like, we're kind of at that stage.
		I'm just trying to be real.
		I don't want this to happen, but I'm just saying I'm not going to pretend like I didn't think it.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		This is an interesting opportunity to talk about a metaphor that I've been thinking about.
		Nero was actually the first Roman leader that was responsible for essentially manipulating the currency.
		For over 300 years, I think it's the denarius, the silver coin, held 95% purity.
		Nero was the first ruler that decided to melt it down and start to debase their currency.
		In short order, every ruler did the same and it ended up being confetti.
		In my opinion, you could either point at Greenspan, you could point at Bernanke.
		One of them was Nero.
		And I don't know which, I don't know who to actually hang that title on.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it would have been Greenspan.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, probably.
		But in terms of like actual just profligate spending, I mean, you could give it to Powell because it's totally out of control even though he's been hiking interest rates and I respect that.
		Regardless, the people that are in control of the money supply in this country have absolutely doomed our children to a future that is much more destitute than our own, and I am never going to forgive them for it.
		Fortunately, people like me that understand this have already divested ourselves from the U.S.
		dollar to a large extent.
		It's just not very easy, and it doesn't bode well for a functioning civilization moving forward.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to this clip from Fox News about Kevin O'Leary and talk about what's going on in New York, because we've been ragging on New York all day.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's listen.
kevin oleary ▲ ● ▼		More importantly, the message about the American brand.
		You think about America, the reason this is the number one economy on earth is that we have laws and we have due process and we have property rights.
		It attracts foreign capital from all around the world.
		All of that is being shaken to the core here.
		The concept of seizing assets in 30 days on a bond number that's never been issued.
		No insurance bond companies ever issued anything near this, so there was no chance it was going to happen.
		And only giving 30 days notice in time...
		That's a really bad message.
		And I think New Yorkers should think well past Trump.
		Whether he's president or not, or whether this Attorney General is gone in four years or not, it's irrelevant.
		This is case setting against the American brand.
		The most stable country on earth, anywhere, to put capital work over a long period of time, particularly in real estate, is the United States of America.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's break down real quick what he just said.
		This is about the fraud case against Donald Trump.
		A $454 million bond, which now is up to like $500 and something, has never been issued.
		It's an absurd number.
		No one has that kind of cash.
		That was the intent.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		The entire point was to bankrupt Donald Trump.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The judge issued a summary judgment.
		There was no trial.
		The judge said, I hereby declare Trump committed fraud.
		Now we're going to determine how much you owe us.
		Trump had no trial.
		They gave him 30 days to come up with half a billion dollars, which doesn't exist.
		People don't have that cash laying around.
		No one does.
		Or they're going to take his properties from him.
		This is New York full-fledged communist takeover.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's not dissimilar to what we're witnessing in Brazil either with either Lula or Bolsonaro.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		We are now in the era of arresting our political enemies and putting them away or finding ways to make their lives so miserable.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Bolsonaro just got indicted for falsifying his own COVID vaccine card.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes.
unidentified		Wow.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Isn't that ridiculous?
		He and his daughter both did.
		They didn't want to take the COVID vax.
		The government was, like, forcing everybody to take it.
		And so Bolsonaro was like, well, we're not going to do it.
		And so he falsified his own record so that he could, like, leave the country and do stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's the reality of where we go.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That's what we have next.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, what we have now is quite literally, like, look, in these communist countries, Do people really think that it was like the premier and the dictator just went, for no reason, I'm going to steal your building!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No, it's for your own safety.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, it was, this man has been accused of a crime.
		He has been hereby accused of this crime one, two, three, and four.
		He must go to jail.
		What say you all?
		All right, to jail with him.
		They don't just walk up and say, your building is now mine.
		That's simplistic.
		They always try to justify it to maintain plausible Control like plausible governance.
		No, no, we are here to we are here to enforce the law and the safety of the people.
		Kevin O'Leary is on CNN.
		And then a Washington Post woman who's smirking the whole time like it's to protect the market.
		And Kevin's going, the market is destroyed by this.
		Nobody wants to invest in New York now.
		He doesn't, and he's telling her, there's no market anymore.
		But these communists are just laughing, being like, good, we don't like it.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Well, and you even had Kathy Hochul addressing the concerns that New York business owners would be concerned by this and would, you know, essentially divest from New York.
		And she basically came out and said, no, we're just doing this to Donald Trump.
		That's what she said.
		It's just like what Katie Porter said.
		She said that basically the entire Democratic platform is set up to oppose Donald Trump.
		Not to oppose his policies, not to oppose his ideas, not to oppose the Republican Party, not to oppose, you know, different plans for the United States or a different future than the one she envisions.
		Their entire party, she said, is set up to oppose Donald Trump.
		And that's what they're doing in New York as well.
		And that's what they're going to do.
		They're trying to do it in Georgia.
		You know, they were trying to set this up against Trump in Colorado.
		Yeah, that's where we are.
		If anyone continues to do business in New York, specifically in real estate, I think they're out of their mind.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		This is exactly why O'Leary is so activated.
		I would imagine he never voted for Trump.
		He's probably not a Trump supporter, but he has tens of millions of dollars of real estate that exists within New York.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Hundreds!
		Yeah, well- And he's probably like, I gotta get out, I gotta get out, what do I do?
		And he can't just divest.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		It's too difficult.
		And you know why he can't divest?
		It's because everyone all over the world who has forever looked at America as this bastion of security and safety when it came to investing is now looking at America and saying, this is a politically weaponized system.
		And if I deploy capital here, and this is actually ties into- Like Venezuela!
		This ties into my opposition to your perspective on the TikTok bill, too, in that if you start to weaponize the government against alleged foreign enemy nations, which they just listed off those four nations, well, that dries up foreign investor capital because they realize that we're now in an activated, kind of militarized financial system.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's a bit extreme.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		How many people live in China and invest in real estate in America?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Germany is not concerned that they will be named by Congress in a bill as an enemy of the United States.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, what about the 1.5 billion people that work and create in China?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		China was in a codified bill listed as an adversary of the United States.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So if they chose to invest with that being the case, they made that decision, which proves what you're saying is not correct.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, because it hasn't gotten as bad as it can possibly get, but once you start to ban their products outright, it's going to give investors pause when it comes to investing.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Chinese investors in American real estate is astronomical.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And we'd want them to go away.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if that's your perspective.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But we don't want China to own our economy.
		The craziest thing about the TikTok bill is that you have people defending it by saying, there are people, there are thousands of people who run their businesses on TikTok.
		We can't shut it down.
		And I'm like, wow, the Chinese Communist Party has control over a large portion of American business?
		Wow, now I'm even more in favor of this divestment bill.
		They should not have that power.
		See, that's, I think, a little bit unfair framing, given that... If the Libertarian Party's position is that we should allow our foreign adversaries to have control over our market, our real estate, then the Libertarian Party is not a serious political party.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, you've got to beat them at their own game.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I'm interested in free market trading, I am.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		That's been a Libertarian policy forever.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You have to get them to defeat themselves, because if we let the President decide at will who's the enemy and ban their products, well, that's what that bill does.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It does not.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't care if you don't like the bill.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't care if you don't like... No, it doesn't.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Did you read section 2G?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I read the whole thing.
		We went over the whole thing.
		I don't care if you don't like the bill.
		What did you think about it?
		Let me finish.
		You're allowed to say that government weaponizes bills and will misconstrue them.
		All of that is true for every single bill imaginable.
		But what I am sick and tired of is everyone lying about what is in the bill.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So we went over a bill in Congress that would give an unelected bureaucrat the right to ban farms.
		Ain't nobody talkin' about that one.
		It would allow them to send an inspector to any farm and say, you are no longer allowed to produce milk.
		Ain't nobody talkin' about that one.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's terrifying.
unidentified		It is!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so why is everyone so obsessed with TikTok?
		And the point with the TikTok bill is, if you are concerned about a bill that would allow the president to declare That one of four enemy nations has a financial interest in a social media app that has more than one million users, where users are able to log in to both share and view content.
		It is a declared national security threat to Congress and has been adjudicated in DC.
		If you're going to say all of that, And I think that's a bad idea.
		I say, okay.
		But if we're talking about... I'll say it again.
		My issue with it is that people keep lying about what's in the bill because they're trying to win a political argument.
		Instead of just coming out and saying, the bill would do these things, it is possible the president will say something like, This guy, Igor, has a financial investment of 20% in Truth Social.
		It was bought on the public market.
		He has to sell that.
		That's the first thing that happens.
		That's it.
		It's a divestiture bill.
		Banning is only the enforcement action against a company that doesn't divest from one of four foreign adversaries.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I agree with your description of it.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		The issue that I have, and I align myself with David Sack's analysis on this, and I forget exactly the clause... What's the name of the bill?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Why is it so hard to find?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		This is freakish.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why is it not— It's a really long name.
		It's like federal— I don't remember it exactly.
		It's HR 7521 or something like that.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		But the point he was making is the same one that Ian was bringing up, that the description
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		of under—I think it was under the control— Yeah, HR 7521.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I got it right here.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		—under the control of is just too broad.
		I do not trust—I mean, this is what I find fascinating.
		You're as big a skeptic of the— He got that wrong.
		administration as anybody. You understand that they've weaponized the political
		system against Donald Trump and political dissidents all across this
		country. I am not interested in empowering these people further.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So agreed. Stop passing any bill whatsoever and stop. And I call on
		Thomas Massey to stop putting out-of-context snippets. I call on Rand
		Paul to issue a correction that ByteDance is a Chinese-owned company.
		He got that wrong. He got that wrong. And I call on everyone else to stop.
		I call on Tucker Carlson to retract his statement that this bill would allow Joe Biden to ban any news website that opposes him.
		That is factually false.
		Well, 100% false.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		It could not do in its current existence.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It could not do that.
		There's no reason to say those things.
		Please oppose the bill.
		Tell me why you oppose the bill.
		And I'll say you're entitled to oppose it.
		Why?
		Look, My problem with the corporate press and the Democrats is they lie about everything.
		So if Thomas Massie comes out and cuts context, if Rand Paul is wrong and Tucker Carlson is wrong, I'm going to say these people are wrong.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, I think that's totally fair.
		I think that the argument that the Thomas Massies and the Justin Amash and the Rand Pauls of the world are making, including Ron Paul, he came out against it too, Including myself, Dave Smith, a whole list of people, is that we are essentially shell-shocked from the power that the federal government has accumulated through periods of crisis without demonstrable evidence of the claim.
		I have not seen, and I'll ask you just bluntly, have you seen any definitive evidence that the CCP is actually dictating the algorithm when it comes to TikTok?
		Because Marco Rubio and all these other neocon scumbags pretend as if they've seen it, pretend as if they have it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That they have a board, the CCP has a board member on TikTok?
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		It has a board member, yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Is that evidence enough to you?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That means they've built the algorithm.
		Can I FOIA the Chinese intelligence agencies to figure out their communication with TikTok?
		The answer is obviously no.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if they're doing business in America, maybe you can.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		No, you can't.
		But I can FOIA the FBI, the NSA, the CIA.
		It doesn't mean I'm going to win.
		But at the very least, we did get through FOIA proof that intelligence agencies were in active communication with our social media and we were able to take some action against them, to which it is currently going to the Supreme Court.
		That is a very, very challenging and difficult position for American people to challenge these massive multinational corporations headquartered in the United States.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Massive, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And we still at least have the ability to have FOIA requests of our intelligence agencies and figure out these things are going on.
		Right now, we do not have that with TikTok and the CCP.
		We can't even begin to ask them what degree of control.
		And it's already been speculated the reason they won't sell is because they want control of the algorithm and they don't want to reveal what it is.
		Unfortunately for us, I have no intention of believing the communists Have this beautiful algorithm that is totally neutral and just shows kids what they like.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No, no algorithms are neutral.
		I mean, you would, okay, you're right.
		There are neutral algorithms, but if you don't show it, it's not neutral.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		China's not going to release the algorithm under no circumstances because it is a weapon of war.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Now check this out.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Or it's just the most advanced algorithm in the world.
		Look, let's just consider for a second that Mnuchin, the Treasury, I think it was the Treasury Secretary under Donald Trump, he has now gone into private practice, he has his hedge fund, and he is arranging to acquire TikTok, the domestic version of it.
		I think that that is absolutely reprehensible.
		If you believe it's a weapon of war, then you should want it abolished entirely, correct?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You think we... See, this is the difference between revolutionaries and reformers.
		I think it's better that Amazon owns TikTok than the CCP, and Amazon is bad.
		But you think it's better the communists own this massive platform with US businesses and our children on it?
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		That's insane!
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		My perception is that the gravest threat to me and my family is not the CCP, it's the United States federal government.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'll say it again.
		We have the ability to take action against the U.S.
		government.
		We have actually won tremendously when it comes to, say, Second Amendment rights.
		We have nothing to go against the CCP.
		And if they control any amount of our economy through real estate, farmland, or TikTok, if they're able to influence our youth, as Yuri Bezmenov warned us about, we have to take action to prevent that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Talk to me about this bill for a second, because we haven't really gone too deep.
		I want to.
		Section 2G is the definitions.
		This is where I was like, oh god, my mind started to get twisted.
		Reading what the bill actually means.
		Always go to the definitions when you're reading bills, because they'll tell you, oh, that word we used, it means this.
		So, someone that's controlled by a foreign adversary.
		See there, 1, 2G, section 1.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so let me tell you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Controlled by a foreign adversary, specifically in the definitions, refers to another bill, where this is codified by Congress as China, Russia, North Korea, and Iran.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So any other, as soon as a country becomes codified, then that will become part of this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If Congress comes together and declares under that specific subsection an amendment that would add or remove, it would change these things.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's dangerous because if someone has a network that is messing with us, then Congress might be like, well, they're definitely an enemy.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the counter-argument is exactly this.
		You've already had an outright lie that Donald Trump was being controlled by Vladimir Putin.
		Is it so far-fetched?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What was the legal result of that investigation?
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, after seven years?
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you could still, in the interim, have Elon Musk forced to divest of X.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The argument you're making is not about this bill.
		It is about all bills that pass through will grant power that will be used in ways it wasn't intended to be used.
		I completely agree with that.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		But I'm also saying that the exact language of this...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		General government corruption.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well I am, but I'm opposing it on the structure in that it says right there that control, control is too broad.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Or a subject to the direction, not the control, the direction of a foreign person that is domiciled in a country.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		And what did they say about Donald Trump?
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		They said that he was being controlled or directed, he was being foisted upon us because of $100,000 worth of ads on Facebook.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They could immediately ban Truth Social if this goes through.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No they can't.
unidentified		Because of Trump's... How many users does Truth Social have?
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Not many, but to be honest, I don't know.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Good point.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, it needs to have at least a million.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's probably got a million.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A million active users.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		It's probably got a million.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Active daily?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't say that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It just says active.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's a bad bill.
		It should say daily, monthly.
		These people do not know what they're doing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is my problem with the bill.
		No one is reading any bills!
		The hotshot buzzword of the week comes up and all of a sudden I got people on the right posting nonsense about the bill they didn't read and ignoring all the other bills that are worse.
		One bill that's currently going through Congress would give Joe Biden the right to stop oil exports and control oil!
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you're like, but social media.
		And I'm like, dude, it's fine if you don't like the bill, but I am... Yeah, be honest about it.
		I agree.
		I am sick of everyone hounding and screaming, rabble, rabble, rabble, and I'm like, guys, all bills do this.
		All of them do this.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All of them.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Right?
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		And it's a problem.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So there is no way, there is literally no way you are going to craft this bill in the way that's going to satisfy anyone.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		This is true.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Social has a roughly 2 million monthly active users as of March of 23.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So we've already gone over this 50 billion times.
		I don't want to keep rehashing the same hypotheticals of what would happen, but let's stop.
		First of all, it's not a ban bill.
		The bill does not allow you to ban.
		As an enforcement action after 165 days and a refusal to divest, the enforcement action is, companies in the United States cannot host you, which means you can still distribute and market your product in any way you want.
		It's not banned.
		But wait, who's going to host it?
		Russia or China?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But on what website?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What are you talking about?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Russia has servers.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In fact, many people use Chinese servers to host their American websites all the time.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The penalty is for American businesses.
		Are you using Verizon to tap into it?
		To download it?
unidentified		That's not hosting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, if TikTok does not divest, after 165 days, they can begin enforcement action.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		If ByteDance doesn't divest, right?
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If TikTok doesn't say ByteDance, you're out.
		What ends up happening then is the App Store on Apple removes it and the Google Play Store removes it.
		American servers must stop hosting it.
		It can be hosted in Canada, it can be hosted in the Bahamas, it can be hosted in Venezuela, it can be hosted in any other country which we do have access to by typing in words into a browser.
		Many websites you go to are actually not even hosted in the United States.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		By typing in words.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If you want to use TikTok at that point on your Android, you need only go to the TikTok.us and download the APK file and click install.
		It can't ban it.
		You can't ban the internet.
		So at first, when Thomas Massey posted saying it could ban websites, I went, whoa!
		That's crazy!
		That would shut down VPNs, that would shut down Telegram.
		So I pulled the bill up on Reddit and I went, oh, Thomas Massey has removed critical context that explains that's not what it's going to do.
		It would penalize American businesses for working with an adversary of the United States for On specifically a social media website named as TikTok, or another platform with at least a million users, where users can log in and share content, specifically social media, that has refused to defest from an interest in one of four countries, and failing to file for adjudication within 165 days.
		So, there is this long and circuitous chain by which Joe Biden could say, Twitter's a national security threat.
		Here's my report as to why.
		Congress can review it.
		He says Elon Musk is secretly working for Iran.
		That is insane.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I'd say it'd be Putin more likely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it's not going to happen.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, he would have to shut down SpaceX and Tesla if that was the case.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well I think this is the whole reason Elon hasn't been taken to the mat already is because he works so much with the government that it would be a real issue for them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If we come to the point in this country where Joe Biden comes out and says Elon Musk's companies are forfeit and we are seizing them, beyond what we're already seeing with Trump, as like Trump, I think we're off the precipice with New York.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But if the federal government makes those moves, you have a lot more to worry about than TikTok or X. I know, but I'm just trying to slow the bleed here.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, here's my bigger concern, too, is that giving the government the power to... This is kind of playing into their misinformation narrative that they've been pushing for the past three years very harshly.
		Also, the actions that were taken by AWS, as well as the Apple Play Store, Google, all that, when it came to Parler.
		Like, it was already kind of a shot across the bow when it came to trying to shut down social media that goes against the corporate narrative in a time when they don't have the control.
		They had control of Twitter before Elon.
		They had control of Facebook and Instagram and across the board.
		But they came very aggressively against Parler.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You want to know what the best part of this bill is, my favorite part?
		Is definitions, section 2, section B.
		Which says the term covered company does not include an entity that operates a website, desktop application, mobile application, or augmented or immersive technology application, whose primary purpose is to allow users to post product reviews, business reviews, travel information, and reviews.
		In which case, the bill could only cover TikTok.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, it could do like Amazon.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How could it ban Amazon?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I mean, as far as I know, it's got a social network of over a million monthly active users.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And a primary function is reviews?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No, no, it can't.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It does not include ones that do reviews, business reviews, or travel.
unidentified		That's correct.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So commerce is not... They're exempt from it all.
		Yeah, but commerce is not exempt from it.
		Websites that particularly do commerce are not exempt.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right, you have to have a million users, allow users to post content and share content and view content, it has to have a stated interest from one of four countries, and it can't be a website Where you are posting product reviews, business reviews, travel information, and reviews.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Massie brought up this point because he's saying this is evidence that it is not specifically targeted towards TikTok.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, that's evidence that it is.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Because you had a lobbyist for some corporate, I don't know, Travelocity or whoever it was, that said, we're concerned about what they're going to do to us, so we need to have a carve-out to make sure that we're safe.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So all X need do is say, Post your travel reviews.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
		Only if it's their primary purpose is to allow.
		Define primary.
		Exactly.
		That's going to go up to the Supreme Court after the ban already happens.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, not after the ban happens.
		It gets stayed.
		The issue I take with this is people are desperately trying to find any excuse.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Define primary, man.
		It's in the definition.
		They use the word primary.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is not dispositive.
		You can't say, because I can make a misconstrued argument on language, therefore Well, if it didn't say primary, I'd be a little more comfortable.
		This is what bothers me with this bill.
		Is that everyone's basically nitpicking every word to claim things the bill doesn't say.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We have to, man.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The Patriot Act.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that's the trauma.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's the PTSD.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's not PTSD.
		It's TSD.
		It's real trauma.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There is a bill right now that gives Biden control of like oil imports and exports.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		What's that bill called?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I can't believe that last night I started pulling up a whole bunch of bills.
		I'm like, here's one that allows an unelected bureaucrat to inspect farms and it could ban their food saying it's not human consumption.
		It's not not not right for human consumption.
		So this is actually happening right now.
		There's a there's a case going through I think the Supreme Court where a farmer they're shutting down his milk production.
		And everyone's just like, but if you look here, this word means that they're going to be, yes, look, any bill, all bills, they can do whatever they want.
		But for some reason, people are desperately like, China should have control of our farmland, our real estate and our commerce, our digital commerce.
		TikTok is known to be a social media commerce website.
		It is described that way.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		This is the raw milk guy.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I remember that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		TikTok is described as a social commerce platform.
		It's people run businesses, they sell things.
		They're snippet advertisements.
		China should have full control of that.
		And they should be deciding what our kids get to see.
		And I'm like, this is insane.
		This should not be the case.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I think that's a bit of a strawman of my position, at least.
		I can't speak for everybody, but my big issue is that you and I know, as people who make our living on the internet, how absolutely vital it is that we defend free discussion, free debate, free speech on the internet.
		And I am not interested in offering them additional power when it comes to this arena.
		That's my concern.
		I'm not even on TikTok!
		I don't even use it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't care.
		I think this is a tribalist argument that has no logic.
		Like, the idea that you would rather fight the CCP, who you have no legal standing against, versus our government where you have the Constitution and you have the Supreme Court.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Who has more power over you, the CCP, or your own government, Tim?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is what we are preventing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		TikTok giving the CCP control over commerce on top of it's bad enough they're buying farmland, it's bad enough they're buying real estate, they're pricing out American working class people from the market and we've been screaming about this for years and now that we know for a fact that China through TikTok is gaining a major foothold in digital commerce and influence peddling to our youth, all of a sudden it's not an issue anymore.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's inverse that, because the whole reason that so many entrepreneurs rely on TikTok is because your government decided to lock them down and shut down their businesses in 2020, which now you have so many entrepreneurs that are hanging on by a thread.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Non-sequitur.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		That's not a non-sequitur.
		You're pointing the finger at the CCP.
		I'm saying that the reason that TikTok became so powerful is because your government is communist.
		That's the truth.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And we have the Constitution and the Supreme Court And we have our best efforts through the electoral process, state courts, etc., to challenge all of that, and we've had major successes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Court of Public Opinion, as well.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Some.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		With TikTok, you have nothing.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We need to free its code, man.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's what we need to do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that's exactly what the point of the bill is.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		This just makes them sell.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When it became clear that the Democrats were panicking over the pro-Palestine content on TikTok, A bunch of pro-Israel donors contacted Democrats and said, it must be banned.
		All of a sudden Democrats got on board with the Republicans' position on this.
		TikTok then sent out a push notification to all American users saying, do not let them do this.
		And then these people started spamming congressional offices saying, don't ban our app.
		This Chinese-owned app directed American youth to change the laws in our country.
		They played this on Fox earlier today.
		One representative got a death threat from someone saying that they would come and kill them if they voted on this one.
		Now, here's what I'm seeing.
		They're absolutely posting content that is manipulating young people.
		Yuri Bezmenov warned us about this.
		We should not tolerate it.
		They have a foothold in one of the largest digital commerce platforms, and it's here in the United States, and we don't know what they're doing.
		And they have directed American citizens to change laws already using this app.
		It is a weapon.
		I understand.
		Facebook is evil.
		I think they're awful.
		Face CIA book, we've called it for 10 years.
		X is only okay now that Elon's got it.
		Even they're not great.
		YouTube is not good at all.
		Rumble is probably the best.
		I would rather Mark Zuckerberg own TikTok than the CCP.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, Mark Zuckerberg and Zuckerbugs, he's responsible for Biden being the President of the United States, isn't he?
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Who manipulated our government more?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And now you've got a bunch of states are backing away from that after being exposed.
		Not that it's a good... It's not like we won or anything, but I can tell you this, we can put Mark Zuckerberg in prison if we want to.
		Not like it's easy, but maybe, maybe in a rare...
		You know, shoot to the moon and maybe you'll hit the stars.
		Donald Trump gets elected, immediately investigates the interference in the election that Zuckerberg with Zuckerbuck's put in, and then says, massive penalty, fines, you're in trouble now.
		You cannot do that with the CCP.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		That's all true.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		But it's also true that I think that parents ought to be controlling their kids intake of this content.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I think that's not an argument to what we're talking about.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		You're saying it's a weapon that's targeted towards children.
		I'm saying conservative parents who talk about personal... I said they control commerce.
		No, you also said that it's controlling kids' minds.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it is a non sequitur to say, yes, but this one thing I will attack.
unidentified		No, no, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The point is, the CCP has control in multiple facets of our culture and economy and politics right now.
		I don't care about each and every one.
		You can argue parents should do a better job.
		You're right, they should.
		It doesn't change the fact that they have a massive foothold in our farmland, in our real estate, in our digital media, digital commerce, and at the very least, we can all complain about the CIA, the NSA, the FBI, national security letters, and all of that stuff, but we can't do anything about the CCP.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's the truth of the situation, though.
		We are incredibly reliant on China's support at this point.
		They own a huge percentage of our debt.
		They own a huge percentage of our real estate.
		They have ultimately bolstered our economy when we would otherwise probably be in a depression.
		And for the record, they are equally reliant on us because we are the buyers of everything they produce.
		Look, I'm not saying that you're wrong.
		I'm saying that you need to consider the consequences of the plan that you're taking on.
		You are opting to make them an enemy nation and try and divest us when we are very intertwined.
		And also, Ron Paul has advocated- So you're with the Democrats on this one?
		No, hear me out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We want NAFTA, we want free trade.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		That's not fair.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Let's not try and put me into some camp because we disagree on one topic.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What argument do you have for, China is destroying us, let's just give in?
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Look, if the libertarian position is that China is destroying us, that is an argument that needs to be made with evidence.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so how about the deal that we opened up, starting with Nixon, so we can get trade, and we think that we're going to bring American trade to China, and they're going to normalize and become like us, and they do the inverse.
		We've got the stealing of intellectual property for decades.
		We have incessant cyber attacks going on since the invention of the internet.
		We have been under relentless attack, spying.
		We've got gain-of-function research.
		We caught, in multiple airports, Chinese nationals smuggling viruses out of BSL-4 through our airports, unsecure.
		They've been doing these things, and there's so much more.
		They're sending fentanyl from the southern border into our country as revenge for the opium wars, as I believe Ian said several times.
		They are sending designer drugs over the internet and through Silk Road to our young people.
		They're tainting it with fentanyl so they're dying.
		We know we're in active conflict.
		They want to take Taiwan, they're mad at us.
		We've got an alliance now with Australia sending warships.
		There is a fear that the economic expansion of China will lead to a Thucydides trap type situation which could invoke World War III.
		Now, What we could do is say, maybe perhaps this is the point at which we stop allowing China to buy up our land, buy up our politicians, the Thousand Towns Project, where they're paying professors to sell our research from our tax dollars to their country.
		It needs to stop.
		And all of a sudden, TikTok says, push notification to all our users, and all these people immediately come out like zombies and go, we like the China app now.
		It would be wrong to ban China from buying America.
		And I'm like, are you nuts?
		We have been complaining about China buying up our farmland and our real estate.
		We've been complaining about the drugs they're sending.
		TikTok is effectively their digital drug against us.
		And I agree.
		Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, they're all bad and they do similar things.
		At the very least, I can file a FOIA request against our government and chip away at the block on this one.
		We should not be allowing China to do any of this stuff.
		And for some reason, TikTok decides.
		I'll tell you my theory.
		When the Republicans made these moves to ban TikTok under Donald Trump and everyone agreed, TikTok's smartest play at that point, which I'll just say hypothetically, maybe happened.
		I think it's probably what happened.
		I don't know for sure.
		They immediately bolster specific right-wing accounts on the platform and give them followers.
		So that they can build an addiction among Trump supporters and libertarians so that when it finally came down to it, because they knew they were being threatened, you would get a wave of younger right-wing people being like, no, no, no, no, no, we can't ban TikTok.
unidentified		Why?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I have followers on TikTok.
		I use the platform.
		It's totally fine.
		We're now seeing these people, I'm not going to name them, posting screenshots of the front page of TikTok being like, there's no indoctrination here.
		What are you talking about?
		And I'm like, It's a major digital commerce platform.
		I don't care if it's the farmland.
		I don't care if it's fentanyl.
		I don't care if it's TikTok.
		We cannot allow China to... They're communists.
		I'm so over this.
		We'll go to Super Chats right now because we're way late.
		But it is remarkable to me that we're at this point now.
		Where we are banging our fists on the table being like, the communist takeover is insane.
		They're seizing property.
		And you've got the active Chinese Communist Party courting our politicians.
		You've got people like Trudeau in Canada saying they wish they were like the Chinese Communist Party, like Xi Jinping.
		And all of a sudden, because of Israel, only because of Israel, Democrats and Republicans have decided TikTok's gone too far.
		And I'm like, I'll take what I can get, I guess.
		Or we can now all of a sudden on this issue decide we are all staunch free market libertarians that allow foreign adversaries that are destroying and attacking our country to operate one of the largest influence platforms in our nation and take control of the minds of our youth, whether that may be socialist or otherwise.
		I say no to that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think the better way would be to force them to free their software code to operate in the states, as opposed to give the president more power and authority over social media, is my personal take.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Hopefully it'll go— I allowed for Tim's full— We gotta go to Super Chats, we're 17 minutes past.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You got a 30, 10 seconds?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com.
		We'll have that uncensored show coming up in 13 minutes.
		But let's see what you got.
		Clint Torres says, Howdy people!
		Tim, I got my first and second bag of cast brew last night.
		Focus with Bocas and wake up with Roberto Jr.
		It's Mr. Bocas Pumpkin Spice Experience.
		Focus with Mr. Bocas.
		We have not yet made.
		But I think it's gonna be called The Legend of Mr. Bocas.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Clint says, Phil, if you're there, go to the gym.
		If Phil isn't there but watching, go to the gym.
		If Phil isn't watching, can someone kindly tell him to go to the gym?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Go to the gym, Phil.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And then play Helldivers 2 with me later.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He had a personal trainer.
		We did some lifting today, and I lifted to the point of failure.
		And then once we were wrapping up with, like, the cool-down warm-ups, or the cool-down exercises, not warm-ups, he was like, okay, now we're gonna do some push-ups, and I couldn't do a single push-up at that point.
		I was like, it's not going.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I'm proud of you, man.
		I'm proud of you.
		Dude, Jack Tim Pool is coming to town!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We did knee-ups instead.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What are knee-ups?
unidentified		So instead of going on your toes when you do a push-up, you go on your knees.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it was wild.
		He was like, come on, come on, four!
		And I'm like, dude, my arms are jelly.
		I was lifting 35-pound weights.
		We did 12, 15, 25, 35.
		And then we went again with different sets.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I had bought some two-pound weights and I managed to injure myself doing that.
unidentified		Two-pound weights?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We got three-pound weights.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Drink colloidal gold.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's grab some more Super Chats.
		What is this?
		I see this one.
		Where did it go?
		Let's see.
		Tybo says, if the squatters issue and property rights issue isn't fixed before Trump is elected, it's going to be a bloodbath!
		We sold a hundred of those shirts, by the way.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I heard you talking about inoculating your friends and family against the news.
		Have you guys been doing that?
		Have you been calling your friends and loved ones and telling them about the story as it's breaking so that they know when they see the manipulation in real time, they're like, oh, now I know what you're talking about.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But you don't tell them about the story.
		You say, hey, look at this video real quick.
		It's 20 seconds long.
		And then you play it for them so they hear everything.
		And you go, I just wanted you to hear that.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, the best thing about being a creator in this space now is that my mom, my dad, my stepdad, they all listen to Liberty Lockdown.
		They all call me and they go, Oh my God, I was, I was totally on board with XYZ until I listened to your show.
		And I run clips on my show to try and dismantle the narrative in real time.
		And it's been valuable to them.
		And I know thousands of people are listening and they all say the same.
		So it's like, this is what we're, that's what I'm in this fight for.
		Exactly.
		Is I want people to know the truth.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		No, I didn't call anybody or talk to anybody about it.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Kat4203 says, I'm part of a community parent network.
		I just did training today.
		That was the most racist thing I've ever seen.
		Goal number one was how to eliminate racism in early childhood development.
		Did you see there was like a hiring thing?
		And it's, I forgot what it was, but someone tweeted it.
		Maybe it was a TikTok.
		It said like requirements, BIPOC.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like one of the requirements was that you can't be white.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		One of the requirements is that you can't be white.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		They do that for a lot of stuff.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Charlie was trying to connect the... I think his name's Charlie.
		I've been blanking.
		He was trying to find the source file on that, and he thinks that it may not be true.
		So I don't know.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Well, starting next year, Washington State Public Schools are going to be required to teach LGBTQ history.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh my gosh.
unidentified		Wow.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		So if you're wondering why American schoolchildren are doing so poorly in school, it's because they are learning trash and not anything worthwhile.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		And have been for quite some time.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		This is what I discovered when I pulled my son out of school to homeschool him, which I got to say, parents who've been homeschooling this whole time, you guys are heroes.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I can really only handle it for just the term.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Jason Dixon.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		It's ridiculous.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Jason Dixon says, Tim crying, cops are being gay and doing crimes again.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I guess.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Don't know what that means.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		A funny superhero.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, the leftists slogan, be gay, do crime.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm not really familiar with that one.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Really?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's a big, big one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it really does exemplify their plan for this country.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, be gay and do crime.
unidentified		That's what they want.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then I love it because people are like, and then George Santos shows up and they're like, not like that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He wants to come on the show, by the way, we just got to reach out to him.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		He's so endearing for such a scumbag, you know?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Santos should come on the show.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, I think he's a Culture War guest.
		But maybe actually, he could probably come on here and comment on the news, that's true.
		One of the reasons we launched the Culture War, subscribe over at Tenet Media, is because there are some guests that are like debate guests and specialists that don't comment on news.
		So we've had people be like, I get emails and they'll be like, you know, so-and-so wants to come on the show and I was like, What is what does this person do?
		And they're like, he's an evolutionary biologist.
		And I was like, really cool.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Was it Colin?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Would he like to talk about Joe Biden's election chances?
		And they're like, well, I mean, and I'm like, this is a topical news show.
		And we have a variety of news commentary personalities, and individuals like musicians and those who are active in political commentary, but the culture war is available for those conversations.
		That's how we did it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to get Brett Weinstein on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Who did you mention?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He can talk about everything.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Colin Wright.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but Colin Wright's been on the show.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's cool.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But he is a commentator on the news and big cultural issues.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he comments.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		You said evolutionary biologist and I was like, the only evolutionary biologist I know is Colin Wright.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then, well, Brett Weinstein.
		Right.
		And he's also, he does commentary on the news, so it's like, you can be a mechanic and comment on the news.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		It was his interview with Tucker Carlson a few months ago that sent me down the rabbit hole of trying to figure out what the hell was going on with the Darien Gap and everything else and that's when I that's when I did the deep dive to figure out about how the United Nations was funding the immigration crisis and it's like this goes so deep and most people are like super super super surface level analysis on this and I just hope that if anything people will continue to do their own research and go deeper to figure out why this is happening.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Why is it 10x the historical averages?
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Hal says, slavery was legal in the USA during the Civil War.
		It is still legal after due process.
		Slavery and racism were not only in the South.
		The North loved profiting from it and didn't end it until later.
		Well, technically, they didn't end it.
		That's a good point.
		You know, Kanye West got roasted for this when he said that we should repeal the 13th Amendment.
		And they were all like, what?
		You want to bring slavery back?
		And he's like, no, that's the amendment that allows slavery.
		After due process, you commit a crime, they can make you a slave.
		That's crazy.
		Kamala Harris got people fighting wildfires in California for a dollar an hour.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, she's a bad person.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She's a very bad person.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Second in command.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Unbelievable.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		She's the one who was supposed to fix the border.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		My rant earlier about the reprehensible people that rule over us, she's like the one that comes to mind right away.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, how is she this close to the throne?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		KCB says, Clint, full prisons in a free country is not unjust.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What is unjust is that criminals know that their victims fear prison more than they do and will not protect themselves or others as a result.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you're going to consider yourself the land of the free and you've got more people per capita than almost every other nation on earth, that's pretty over the top.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Do with that information what you will.
unidentified		Okay, let's grab some more Super Chats.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Uh, Reddit Libertarian says, I will bring you pie soon.
		Make it gluten free.
		I have cut the gluten out.
		Use a rice flour.
unidentified		Oh yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Almond flour is good too.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's a little sweet.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Rice flour is the best.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Coconut flour.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Try it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You just, you take rice flour, one part rice flour, one part water.
		You microwave it.
		It's done.
		That's crazy.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Rice is awesome.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean it's done?
		It's cooked.
		It's done doing what?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's food.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		What, do you just eat the flour and water?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, you can do whatever you want.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's mochi.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		So you can like make stuff with it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If you put sugar in it, you can make it spongier.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But what I've been doing is I've just, because I don't want to eat bread, I just one part flour, water, microwave it, butter and jam.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You know what I like about rice, as opposed to a lot of foods that clump?
		If you put a little bit of water into rice and cook it, it spreads out evenly amongst all the rice.
		If you put a lot in, it spreads out evenly among all the rice.
		Like, it's got its own communication.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Do you have a good rice cooker?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think so.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is a good one.
		Jessica Rabbit says, why aren't banks lobbying for stricter squatter laws?
		Most of vacant properties are theirs.
		That's a really good point.
		That's why I'm really excited for this, because when the criminal aliens start going on Zillow and finding all the for-sale properties that are owned by banks, and they just take them all, these banks are gonna be mad.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		They are gonna be mad.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		And that's what's gonna happen, too.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I hate to be black-pilled, but the reason that they're not throwing a fit is because they expect, and probably rightfully so, that they will be bailed out in any sort of situation like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The real address is, Tim, I call on you to hire a POC co-host who can talk about people of color.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that a leftist attempt at getting us to do a DEI kind of thing?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Dude, I'm on the show every day.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I call on you to sue Google like Jeremy from The Quartering said you would?
		Yeah, I said, if Google did a thing, I would sue them.
		And then they did not do thing.
		I don't know, what do you mean?
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't like the calling of a skin color or race off of immutable characteristics.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		You're an asshole.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Look at eyeballs when you talk to people.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I'm as Native American as Elizabeth Warren, so I think these people should really just back off.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, there you go!
unidentified		Look at this!
unidentified		Who isn't?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I gotta say, I am deeply offended by Real High Jewel's white supremacy as the host of the show is literally a person of color.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I am mixed race.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Literally.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, my ancestry was rooted in deep slavery with Korea and Japan and horrible stories.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		You deserve reparations, ultimately.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		I'm surprised that you don't have generational trauma, Tim.
		How did you get so successful?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's everywhere.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Before and after the show, Tim actually speaks in a Korean accent.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Most people don't know this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
		And I hate Japan.
		That's the worst.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		He talks about throwing babies off cliffs.
		I'm sorry.
		I'll stop.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I've been to Japan.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Japan's awesome, actually.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, Jimmy Corsetti's there right now, scoping out ancient megalithic structures.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Hell yeah.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's cool.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		May says, y'all are hardcore simping for China.
		Beanie Boy is right this time.
		TikTok is a weapon and y'all lied about the bill deciding feeling smart was better than doing the smart thing.
		Def A1 and y'all have no inspiration left.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's just be crystal clear.
		I did not lie about the bill.
		I extrapolated based off of prior injustice perpetrated by the United States federal government.
		And let me also add, since I now have an opportunity to counter what Tim said, It was the Institute of Virology that you're talking about was being funded by your taxpayer dollars with NIH and Anthony Fauci, so you might want to look into that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Which is why these are all bad things, and we should stop them.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's actually prove that our government is in fact antagonistic with the CCP as opposed to in bed with them, and do we want to empower them further given that they have the closest proximity in terms of power over us?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm pretty sure we are antagonistic when we send warships to the Taiwanese Strait of Taiwan and Australia.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Then why would it be funding their Institute of Virology?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why?
		I think if you take a holistic view of what happened between the US and China, it's that the US thought we could be good trade partners, and slowly, especially over the past several years, it's begun to break down substantially.
		Notably, when mask manufacturers were based in China, And their companies were based in America, and then when COVID happened, China ordered those ships turn around and bring those masks, and China just outright seized American property.
		This is what China does all the time.
		And Americans are just like, well, I guess I don't care.
		It's remarkable that China does not have trade reciprocity with us, but we're supposed to have it with them as it pertains to TikTok.
		Are we allowed to operate Google in China?
		No.
		TikTok's not even allowed in China.
		They have Douyin.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So why are we allowing China to run ops in our country and buy our land and run businesses?
		Did you know that a foreign individual from any country can start a business in America?
		That's insane.
		In places like Brazil, if a foreign individual wants to come to Brazil to start a company, a Brazilian has to be involved.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And that's how Mexican real estate, like most nations... Not America!
		Most nations have issues like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I'll tell you about immigration.
		So what we've seen over the past... I don't know how long it's been the case.
		But you will get someone from Switzerland.
		They will file articles of incorporation in the United States in Delaware or something, start a company.
		The company will then do business with their company that they own, generating money.
		That company in the United States will then say, we seek to pay this individual, the man who started the company.
		And then file for a visa to bring this person in, giving them the right to citizenship.
		They effectively buy their way in by starting companies here.
		We're like the only country in the world that has complete open borders relative to the rest of the world.
		It's remarkably insane how America just basically says, our country is free for the taking.
		China has been buying up massive amounts of our land and it's just like, well, you know, that's fine, I guess.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		It is really messed up.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		China's actually been buying everywhere.
		When I was in Brazil in one of the favelas, I had a bunch of people telling me that large portions of land is being just bought up by China.
		They are owning everything everywhere.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Are they using fiat?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Are they just printing?
unidentified		Yep.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Print, print, print.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Give, give, give.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're exploiting the system.
		They have this scheme where a middle-class person who owns a home, like a Chinese house, is like a million dollars.
		A ridiculous little garbage house.
		That way it generates fake wealth and they can put a fake on the books and then they can go to someone else and say, it's a million dollars.
		But what is backing that million dollars?
		I don't know, a 15 by 15 box on a hill with no running water.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Right. But a lot of the real estate that's being purchased in America by Chinese people
		is being done so because they still perceive the US dollar to be stronger than their local currency.
		Those people are in fact trying to divest themselves of the inflationary process,
		which we're also suffering. So I think that what has made America unique is our
		valuing of property rights and free trade.
		I think that has made us the strongest economy in the world.
		Now, it is a fair debate to be had that should trade policies be reciprocal?
		Should we only have free trade policies with nations that have free trade with us?
		I'm not sure what the correct answer is on that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If you want a free market, the answer is yes.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm saying, will you only trade freely with them if they are going to have tariffs against you?
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Because historically, the American answer has been that it's not reciprocal.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If you are for free market, you cannot engage in trade with someone who does not engage back.
		It's not free trade at that point.
		So if your argument is, we should do commerce with China, we don't want to constrict foreign investors, the issue is that We have great things, and China says, we'd like to buy property in your country.
		We go, yes, please.
		Now, we'd like to buy property yours.
		They go, screw off.
		And you go, oh.
		And then they come to you and say, we want to sell products in your country that we think are bad.
		And we go, well, that's fine.
		It makes money, right?
		Can we do the same thing in your country?
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		No.
		It's totally unjust.
		I just would prefer diplomacy to remedy that as opposed to increasing the trade wars and the barriers that ultimately lead us towards a hot conflict with a nation with 1.6 billion people and 300 nuclear weapons.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I do feel like your positions entirely throughout this conversation pertaining to, say, New York, California is capitulation and surrender.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, I'm not interested in war, Tim.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I look, like, there will come a time when a man comes to your house and says, better not go into a fight with him.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Squatter can have my house.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm a pacifist, but if you're being attacked, if you're being aggressed on, pacifism is not an option.
		That's the problem.
		And that's the problem we're facing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I do believe TikTok is a weapon.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		You have to prove that we're being aggressed on.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think they have to prove that they're not aggressing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're going to carry the conversation over to the Members Only Show, so my friends, head over to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member.
		If you want to hear us yell at each other some more, it'll be a lot of fun.
		There'll be more swearing this time, so it'll be sillier.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, yelling with swearing!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yelling with swearing.
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I cannot wait.
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		Clint, do you want to shout anything out?
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		I would love to.
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		I am back on YouTube, had a month or so hiatus because I was not allowed to publish.
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		It's also the best political show.
		So take out your phone and search for Liberty Lockdown and the best political show and subscribe so that you never miss an episode.
		I also do Tower Gang, which you should miss every episode because it's totally, totally inappropriate and don't ever listen to it or watch it ever.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Tower Gang?
clint russell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Tower Gang.
		Don't watch them.
		Ever.
		Thank you, Ian, for chatting them out.
		And that's it!
		And I love you guys very much and thank you so much for having me, Tim.
		We'll duke it out in the after section.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I'm Libby Emmons.
		You can find me on Twitter at Libby Emmons.
		And of course, you can check out all the great work we're doing every day at the Postmillennial and HumanEvents.com.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yes, watch me and follow me at Ian Crossland.
		And I mentioned at the beginning of the show again, I did a little parody video.
		Well, it's actually a banging parody video with Tobuscus!
		Toby Turner.
		It's on his YouTube channel now, Tobuscus.
		So go check that out after the show.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What was it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A parody of Metallica?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Nothing else matters.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, some funny lines in there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He was singing it earlier and I was laughing.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's hilarious.
		So let me know what you think.
		Leave a comment on the video and I'll be reading those comments as the days progress.
		Hi, Toby, if you're listening.
		I love all you guys.
		Thanks for watching.
		I'll see you later.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		I'm Serge.
		I'll see you guys in the after show if you are a member.
		If you're not, become a member.
		It's fun.
		Cheers.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We will see you all at TimCast.com on the front page in about a minute.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for hanging out.

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