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Supreme FLIPS Allowing Texas To DEPORT Illegal Immigrants, Mexico SAYS NO w/James Klug | Timcast IRL
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The Supreme Court has flipped.
They will now allow Texas to enforce immigration laws and actually begin deporting illegal immigrants.
However, Mexico says they will not accept people deported back to Mexico.
Kind of funny how that works, right?
They're not securing their southern border.
They're allowing these people to come to our southern border.
And if Texas says you gotta go back, Mexico says, nice try.
We ain't gonna let you do that.
That one's particularly fascinating.
We're also hearing that Letitia James may begin seizing Donald Trump's assets as soon as Monday.
Trump says that he cannot raise the money for the bond, so they may either seize his assets, or Trump may have to sell the buildings.
Now, the interesting thing is, there are other interests involved in ownership of these buildings.
They may not be able to just seize them outright, so it creates an interesting conundrum for New York, and of course, Donald Trump as well.
We'll talk about that.
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And Elon Musk just recently published a video from Western Lensman of the Democrats' plan for uniparty, single party, electoral control indefinitely.
It's going viral.
It's got tens of thousands of retweets.
So we'll talk about the immigration crisis.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is James Kluge.
james klug
Awesome.
You guys, thank you so much for having me.
I'm James Kluge, post political videos on YouTube, and excited to be here tonight.
tim pool
Right on.
Thanks for hanging out.
We got Phil Labonte.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I'm a very failed musician, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
Hi, Lisa.
lisa reynolds
Hi, I am Lisa Booker for The Culture War, so everybody make sure you tune in Friday mornings at 10 a.m.
on Tenet Media, and that's about it, right?
tim pool
Yeah, all right.
lisa reynolds
Back again.
james klug
Good stuff.
tim pool
And Serge is pressing the buttons.
serge du preez
Hey, what's up, James?
Glad you're back.
Good to see you too, Lisa.
And Phil, good to see you too as well.
Glad you're back, man.
tim pool
We love Serge.
serge du preez
Let's get started.
Whenever you're ready, Tim.
tim pool
From CNN.com, Supreme Court allows Texas to begin enforcing controversial immigration law.
Supreme Court on Tuesday cleared the way for Texas to immediately begin enforcing a controversial immigration law that allows state officials to arrest and detain people they suspect of entering the country illegally.
The court's three liberals dissented.
Legal challenges to the law are ongoing at a federal appeals court, but the decision hands a significant yet temporary win to Texas, which has been battling the Biden administration over immigration policy.
The court has been blocking the law from taking effect, issuing an indefinite pause on the proceedings a day earlier, which was wiped away by Tuesday's order.
Senate Bill 4, signed into law by Greg Abbott in December, makes entering Texas illegally a state crime and allows state judges to order immigrants to be deported.
Immigration enforcement generally is a function of the federal government.
So this is huge, a major victory for Texas, but at the same time, Univision is reporting Mexico says it will not accept migrants repatriated by Texas after the controversial SB4 law comes into force.
Okay.
I just love this.
They will send these people to the United States.
They're not sending their best.
And if Texas says, no, no, no, no, no, that's illegal to do that.
They go to bed.
We won't take them.
unidentified
Right.
james klug
Well, what's funny about that, too, this the CNN article referring to the bill as controversial.
It's like what seems more controversial is probably abandoning, you know, the federal laws.
Yeah.
Constitutional duty to actually protect the American people.
That's that's a pretty big joke.
But I think I think they Mexico really just sees that the Biden administration doesn't have Texas's back.
So, yeah.
Why would they accept?
lisa reynolds
You think they got a call from the administration?
Do you think the administration called and said, hey, we're not happy about this decision?
phil labonte
Maybe you should I don't know that I think that they did, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Any kind of theory like that, gone are the days where I'm going to be like, oh, they wouldn't do that.
That ship has sailed a long time ago, so maybe I don't think of a particular conspiracy, or maybe I don't have a full idea of how it might happen, but the possibility is more than just So what are they going to do?
lisa reynolds
They're going to have like this zone where they all wait in with like little tents and like a little tent city?
phil labonte
Keep shipping them into Chicago, into New York.
james klug
Yeah, just keep shipping them.
Also, the situation is so past like just sabotage at the southern border that none of this would be surprising if they actually made a call and said, hey, just don't even go about this because we have an agenda here.
We're trying to work on something.
We're trying to import 10 million illegal immigrants into the country.
That would probably interfere a little bit.
tim pool
What Mexico is saying about not accepting these people is actually really bad for Democrats.
To say, we will not accept illegal immigrants that we sent to you, is basically like a, hey it's your problem now statement.
Americans are going to see that, and they're going to realize, wait a minute.
They're coming through your country and from your country, but you don't want them back?
Now, how could they say no, but we have to say yes?
If anything, the smart move would be if the Biden administration actually called Mexico, they'd say something like, these are good people and we welcome them to stay if they want to, and things like that, and then reject them.
To come out and say no is just, it shows the hypocrisy.
james klug
If even Mexico doesn't want the people back, I mean, what does that say about who we're bringing into the country?
phil labonte
If you look at immigration laws from countries around the globe, the United States immigration system is a complete basket case.
It's a mess.
And Mexico has laws like you have to be a Mexican citizen to purchase property and stuff like that.
Like, there's all kinds of weird laws that other countries have or that the U.S.
doesn't come close to even having.
The border that we have, the border situation that we have here is, basically, it's unique in the world.
And it's something that Americans don't realize.
People in the U.S.
think that, oh, other countries are very welcoming to Well, the weird thing about that, though, is you have these people coming from all over.
They're not just coming from Mexico.
They're coming from the Horn of Africa.
They're coming from Venezuela.
unidentified
They're coming from China.
lisa reynolds
The weird thing about that, though, is you have these people coming from all over.
They're not just coming from Mexico.
They're coming from the Horn of Africa.
They're coming from Venezuela.
They're coming from China.
They're coming from Iran, everywhere.
So if you have them coming from there, so I can understand if they're crossing from the Mexican border, they're saying, we don't want these people.
They're talking, it's not just Mexicans that like, they're not, they, they're not returning, right?
There's Honduras.
So I could see them saying, okay, they crossed your border, but they're not from our country.
We're not taking them.
I kind of get that part.
james klug
It definitely makes sense.
I mean, we do know that the majority actually are not Mexican.
I don't believe, you know, the recent numbers have showed the majority.
Yeah, yeah.
So, but they are traveling through Mexico and there's absolutely no pressure on Mexico to get it under control.
That's, Donald Trump actually put pressure on Mexico to make sure that they were, you know, getting that under control when it comes to preventing people from making it through Mexico or certainly making it through the southern border.
phil labonte
I mean, it's clearly an organized operation, right?
Like these caravans that are set up, I don't know about funding or anything like that,
but you know that there are aid groups that are making sure these people have like,
you know, places where they can stop and get food and get water because it's a long ass walk
from South America all the way through Mexico and stuff.
So, and they're getting, you know, they're getting rides and stuff like that as well.
But this is not a situation where it's just people saying, oh, I'm gonna go ahead and get my happy little butt
South America and then I'm gonna, me and a bunch of people are just gonna do it.
It's like these are organized, you know, literally organized caravans bringing people to the U.S.
unidentified
border.
lisa reynolds
I'm not even mad at Mexico to a point because of the crisis on our border, because we're letting all these people in, because the whole world knows it's open season, right?
They have all these people coming to their country first, maybe trashing it, taking, you know, I'm sure it's annoying for them as well.
james klug
No, no, it totally is.
But they're well aware that they're making it up to the United States, and that's why they're allowing it.
If Mexico was the destination, they would be more strict on it, obviously.
They are well aware that these migrants, these illegal immigrants, are trying to break into the United States.
lisa reynolds
But like I said, that's still gotta be annoying for them.
tim pool
They're not sending their best.
james klug
That's true.
tim pool
Venezuela reportedly is releasing criminals from their prisons, and the speculation is that they are then saying to these people, like, if you want to stay out of prison, you have to leave, go to the United States.
phil labonte
That's some stuff that historically socialist countries have done multiple times.
Go ahead and empty out their prisons and send them off to countries that tend to be free, liberal capitalist societies, so that way they can just wreak havoc.
It's an actual plan by subversive I mean, it's actually pretty smart, isn't it?
james klug
Like, oh, we have all these dangerous people in our country, we can get rid of them, and the United States, like half the country, is going to be bringing them in with open arms?
What a joke.
lisa reynolds
And giving them money.
unidentified
Yep.
james klug
And food and housing.
That's a win-win for the countries that are doing that.
phil labonte
It's ridiculous.
And then they come in and they, you know, try to destabilize – at least the people that are motivated, they come in and they try to destabilize the government or the society that exists currently.
lisa reynolds
I can only imagine the propaganda now, though.
Like, we're not letting them in, and Mexico's not letting them in.
There's all these people in this, like, empty zone there, families or kids.
And they'll only show you, like, the women and children, right?
And it'll be just propaganda, like, look at these poor people.
Now they've got nowhere to go.
They're stuck in this in-between space.
phil labonte
Tugging at the heartstrings of liberal white women.
lisa reynolds
It's 100% what's gonna happen.
james klug
Right.
tim pool
Yep.
But I wonder, I do, because, you know, you've got, uh, there's this viral video.
I haven't fact-checked or anything, so fact-check me on this one, but there's apparently this, uh, illegal immigrant telling all the other illegal immigrants to go and start squatting in houses in states that have squatters' rights.
Because now you're getting, there's free houses.
So basically what we're seeing now is, uh, one of the stories we'll actually, maybe we'll get to today, is a woman goes to her house that she inherited from her parents and they died.
Squatters are in it.
When she calls the cops, she gets arrested.
lisa reynolds
Yeah.
tim pool
This is where we're going.
30-day squatters' rights.
In West Virginia, it's 15 years.
In West Virginia, you've got to squat for 15 years to try and get any kind of adverse possession.
In New York, it's 30 days.
lisa reynolds
I think New York has the strongest, I mean, not New York, New Jersey has the strongest bond, and it's like 21 years or something, really.
unidentified
21.
tim pool
What's going to happen is these illegal immigrants are going to look on Zillow for rental or sale properties.
phil labonte
Yeah.
lisa reynolds
That are vacant.
tim pool
Here's what's crazy, right, they're vacant, and all they have to do is get some kind of bill that they can make themselves, and then when the cops show up, they just be like, no, no, look, and the cops go, okay, and they leave.
lisa reynolds
I actually looked into this this morning.
phil labonte
Your Airbnb is mine now.
tim pool
Yep.
lisa reynolds
I looked into this this morning.
Even fake leases, if they draw up their own fake lease, right, with somebody else's signature, then it has to go through the landlord-tenant process, which could take up to two years.
Imagine if you're still paying a mortgage on that property.
james klug
Right, right, right.
You're bankrupting yourself.
phil labonte
Yeah, people can't afford, like your average person that has, if you're trying to start something, you have one rental property, you're trying to get yourself out of a regular job or whatever, you can't afford to not get paid for two years.
tim pool
This is coming for Airbnb.
phil labonte
Yeah, for sure.
unidentified
100%.
tim pool
All that's gonna happen is they're gonna say, hey, I wanna rent this place, right?
January, January 5th, they say, I wanna rent this place.
And they go, sure.
They rent it, show up, and leave.
lisa reynolds
That actually happened to an Airbnb person.
tim pool
And then, a month later, they show up, The craziest thing about this, I think, is it's affecting, you know, homeowners, right?
there's someone living here they go no I paid rent then they then when they call
the police they say look look like I paid rent I have a receipt for rent I
paid I've been here the whole time I've been here for 30 days they can't kick me
lisa reynolds
out they can switch the utilities into their name too without it like triggering
james klug
anything the craziest thing about this I think is it's affecting you know
homeowners right it's not affecting like the general population I disagree about
unidentified
Go ahead, though.
james klug
You think so?
I do.
Because when it comes to the people that are outraged about this, yeah, it's gonna be a homeowner, but how many thousands or tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people are voting and not even keeping that in mind if they're on the left?
phil labonte
Yeah, tons of them.
I disagree that it's not affecting the average person.
There's something that Serge said before we started.
He was talking about when violent crime starts happening, then things break down really, really fast.
When there's no repercussions for violent crime.
Additionally, when there are no repercussions for property crime, people stop caring about ownership.
Ownership is literally the gasoline that's in an economy.
The only reason people engage in productive activity is because they're doing it so that way they can provide for themselves, so they can provide for their families, so they can feed themselves, pay their bills.
And hopefully, you know, get ahead.
That's the idea.
If you don't have the ability to own property, and you can't buy stuff or save your money, and someone will just take it away from you, that is a massive disincentive.
Things that are going on in New York right now, when New York is with Donald Trump, that is, it's a big... It's the same thing.
Yeah, it's big and flashy, and the average person thinks, that doesn't apply to me.
But as soon as you let that genie out of the bottle, That stuff is going to apply to everybody as soon as the government looks at you.
tim pool
Let's just jump to the story right now while we're on it.
From the post-millennial, woman arrested after trying to remove squatters from her New York home.
Quote, I am being arrested for being in my own home.
She said as cops escorted her off the property.
You know the other day I was ragging on cops quite a bit.
And a lot of people got mad and they said, Tim, why are you ragging on cops?
Yo, watch the video of this.
It's five minutes long.
It's four and a half minutes.
The cops tried as hard as they could to justify the squatter's presence.
The house is clearly not theirs.
One guy says, I've been here for two days.
And they go, please, do you have anything that shows you've been here longer than that?
And the guy's like, no.
And they're like, well, then we can't help you.
And so they escort him out.
The woman then goes to change the locks and the cops tell her not to or she'll be arrested.
And this is crazy because The cops just removed the squatters, knowing they're not tenants or anything, and they still warned her they would arrest her if she changes the locks.
She does.
The guy comes back with a bill of some sort, no lease, and they say, okay, and they arrest the woman.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Back to blue, baby.
lisa reynolds
They arrest her for changing the locks.
That was the thing.
But the two that admitted, there was two people that were in there, and they admitted they had only been there a couple days, so they had to leave.
tim pool
No, no, one guy said he was there for a couple days.
The other guy said, I live here.
lisa reynolds
Yeah, and the guy that said he lived there, he left on his own, but the cops evicted the two guys that were there.
But once she changed the locks and he came back with that bill, that's when they arrested her for changing the locks.
It's her property!
unidentified
Right.
james klug
I mean, at that point, you just do a switch and just pretend it's not your property.
But, Phil, to your previous point about the ownership, I think what I'm referring to when it comes to this conversation here is this is affecting a relatively small amount of people compared to the general public.
most people aren't dealing with this awful policy affecting their life, right?
tim pool
Because the economy has been destroyed and young people can't afford homes anymore.
james klug
Right, exactly.
So how are you gonna get change when the people that have experienced this and dealt with
it they're obviously gonna be as loud as possible
looking for change, but how many people do not care?
Because they see this as some, they see this as like, you know,
they're caring and they're living in New York and they're, you know,
they're looking after the little guy.
But this is the end result of those, you know, policies that are supposed to be meaning well, I guess?
I mean, are they even supposed to be meaning well?
lisa reynolds
How is it even allowed to exist?
They are trespassers and they're burglars, basically.
I mean, they're stealing your actual home.
And to your point about the cops, I was telling James about this on the way up.
They know what they're doing is wrong in that moment, and they still do it anyway.
That's atrocious.
james klug
Why do these laws exist?
I would imagine it has something to do with evictions, right?
You can't just evict somebody the next day.
You can't just call them and say you're done.
lisa reynolds
That's landlord-tenant stuff, but it's a squatter who actually never had any claims.
tim pool
He has no lease.
james klug
It blows my mind that this is even a thing.
tim pool
The principal issue is that people on the right And that includes post-liberal, it includes normies, people who are outside of the cult.
This woman, she thinks, I am honest, and I am morally correct, and therefore I will win.
And the police don't care.
At all.
So when she shows up, and she's got a news camera crew with her, and one guy says, I just got here, and they remove him, and the other guy has no proof he lives there, the cops still threatened her.
Both guys were removed.
There were two guys there.
One guy said, I've been here for two days.
Another guy says, I live here.
Had no proof.
So they said, you have to leave.
He leaves.
They then tell her, even though he doesn't live there, and they did tell him to leave, if she changes the lock, she'll be arrested.
And she thought, if I was honest, then I will win.
And the cops, in this video, you need to watch the video, they try to stop her from doing this.
They tried to arrest the homeowner.
Now, there's something she could have done very easily.
She was with her daughter.
The issue is that you can't live in this virtuous world anymore.
Democrats and their policies and the police who enforce their broken laws do not care.
I talked about this, there's a video, you can find it in Seattle.
Antifa is threatening a guy and he's backing away from them and the cops run up and arrest the victim.
This is what we see.
Trump, he's the victim in the Letitia James case.
They are using the power of government and police to go after their enemies and anyone who opposes their system or is outside of their rule set, and they're doing the smiles on their faces.
You know what she could have done?
I'm not gonna give anybody advice, but imagine if she drafted a lease for her daughter, knowing squatters were there, she immediately then wrote up a lease for her daughter saying, from the date of acquisition of the property, you live here.
Then, Showed up and the daughter called the police and said, the building managers have tried to evict me illegally.
I have the lease.
I live here.
They changed the locks on me.
The cops would say, sir, you can't change the locks on your tenant.
She doesn't live here.
Well, she's got a lease.
And then they would have arrested the squatters for unlawful eviction.
If she did that, she would have gotten her house back and those guys would have been removed.
Unfortunately, her and so many Republicans think they're going to walk into Congress, walk into the courts, and they're going to say, look, I am telling the truth and I am right.
And the Democrats and their police officers are going to laugh and say, you think we care about what's true and correct?
We care about power.
phil labonte
The exodus from states like New York and California is going to continue because the policies have not changed and the quality of life continues to degrade.
People are tired of watching people get into fights with homeless people in the subway and all of the other...
Actual, real, tangible problems that a lot of people on the left like to deny, that they say they aren't happening or whatever.
But it's going to continue because the policies are still in effect and you're still having these things affect normal people.
tim pool
It's wild to me that we know for a fact right now Democrats are enacting crooked laws.
They're issuing broken executive orders.
And people would still defend the police, knowing the police blindly adhere to broken orders, as if it's not the cop's fault.
It's like, no, no, no, wait, wait, hold on.
If there were police officers who adhered to the Constitution and said, give me legal precedence for actually why this is this way, perhaps we'd have good policing.
But I don't see how anyone could actually argue.
We know Democrats are corrupt.
We know they're lying, cheating, and stealing.
But I'm not going to blame the people who are carrying out the corruption for them.
They didn't know better.
phil labonte
I said a couple weeks ago, nowadays I'm kind of, kind of over being like this is the problem of the government.
There is, there is a significant amount of blame that goes to the people that vote.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
They keep voting for the same stuff.
tim pool
And you know what?
How much do you want to bet this woman's a Democrat?
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Well, yeah, of course.
Everyone that, like, the default Democrat is still, like, the default Democrat.
Like, people, your normies still think that the Democrats are the nice ones and the Republicans are just the meanies.
It's literally that, like, the essential calculation for the average person that watches 30 minutes of news per week, that's the calculation.
Oh, we vote for the nice guys, the Democrats are the nice guys, because Jimmy Kimmel told me that.
And they believe it!
james klug
Yeah, I think a lot of people are waking up to the fact that the America First Movement.
phil labonte
They're waking up to how much their groceries are.
james klug
Yeah, of the low-wage earners, of the working class.
People are realizing that.
For example, the bloodbath comment the other day, talking about the auto industry, it would
be a bloodbath if Trump loses, which he's obviously totally correct.
The media completely ignores the actual issue that he's talking about, which was very important
to Ohioans, and just talks about his talking point for political gain.
People know that the left wing has become this party.
More and more people are waking up, let's say, to the fact that the left wing is just
becoming the party of the college-educated elite instead of the working class.
This is another example, but it doesn't just end there.
It's also the crimes, the DAs that are in these cities.
lisa reynolds
The people writing this legislation.
james klug
Yeah, the people writing this legislation that's allowing these cities to completely
collapse into themselves.
I'm from California.
You go up to LA, people can basically do whatever they want, and they'll only go to jail if
they actually spend a meaningful amount of time in jail if they inevitably murder somebody.
That's how it is in a lot of these cities.
lisa reynolds
Like that one guy who just shot his wife.
I think he got seven years.
He was like half naked in his driveway and like shot her.
james klug
That was a weird one though.
He got 10 years in the all-female jury as well.
lisa reynolds
Yeah, that was very bizarre.
james klug
Yeah, really, really unusual.
tim pool
But I mean like there's a video of him shooting her with a shotgun, right?
james klug
Yeah.
tim pool
That's great.
james klug
I'm more of talking about, like, people that have, you know, gotten ten felonies and still aren't behind bars.
lisa reynolds
But my point is, like, you have J6ers who don't do anything violent that are in there longer than that.
And this guy had, there's video evidence of him shooting his wife, like, literally in the face while she's recording him.
And he gets seven, ten years.
tim pool
He's not an enemy of the regime.
lisa reynolds
Right.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
The cult.
And this video, I gotta say, it's just absolutely wild.
It's wild, and I will stress it again, because the cops try to protect the squatters.
And you know what I'm willing to bet?
I'm betting a lot of these cops are Democrats.
james klug
Oh, for sure.
tim pool
That's the thing about Back the Blue.
It's like, dude, by all means, back the people.
The good people.
The cops who run into that school when that, you know, that transmasher was killing people and saved those kids.
I'll back the heroes.
But to just ignore the fact that in New York City, all these cops are probably Democrats.
And they vote for these things.
They believe in these things.
What's gonna... It's the fascinating thing about this idea of backing the blue.
It's so vague.
What happens when the communists put in a bunch of communist loyalists in the police force?
You still gonna back the blue?
That's a ridiculous notion.
And that's what we're seeing right here.
100%.
To protect or defend these two officers, Because you're like, well, I don't blame the police.
Bro, these cops right here are communists.
I'm telling you, they go up to the squatters and they're like, can you give us anything to prove you've been here?
He's like, no.
It's like, okay, man, well, don't you change those locks.
At that point, they should have said, sir, you are criminally trespassing, it is burglary, and you are being charged with a felony.
This woman has a deed to the house, you are a stranger with no proof, and they threaten to arrest the homeowner with evidence!
phil labonte
I am constantly... anytime I see, you know, organized communists, like, marching out in the street, I make sure to retweet that stuff because I think this is a significant threat to the United States, right?
In New York City, there are a lot of actual communists in local government.
Like, in your...
You know, they're community organizers.
They're unabashedly communist.
And the results of communist legislation and communists deciding how the policy is going to go is what you're getting in New York right now.
It is a situation where criminals don't go to jail because they don't believe in jails.
They believe in restorative justice.
tim pool
You know what I love?
They catch and release criminals.
They sometimes won't even respond to criminals, but when they painted Black Lives Matter in front of Trump Tower, they arrested tons of people who were protesting the painting.
Or like, you know, they splash paint on it, you're under arrest.
27 cops assigned to this duty to protect their cult.
phil labonte
That was all posturing.
That was political intimidation.
100% political intimidation.
We're painting this, and if you protest it, we're gonna have the police put you in jail.
Clearly political intimidation.
tim pool
And the cops in New York are communists.
phil labonte
Whether or not they're true believers in the philosophy, it doesn't matter because they're going to carry out the orders.
If you think all of the Stasi were true believers in East Germany, you're wrong.
A lot of them were just like, I don't need the hell that I'm going to have to pay if I put my neck out.
james klug
I was going to say, the only time where I really think absolutely 100% sure, back the blue, is within your community that actually has moral and just laws.
If you have a community that you're proud of the laws, you don't have any of this stuff, Marxists haven't taken over from the mayor on down.
And you're actually proud of the police officers that are keeping people safe in that community?
I think that's great.
I actually think that's totally fine.
I mean, yeah, sure, you still want to be judging police officers when they do something wrong.
But generally speaking, if the, you know, if the population isn't saying, yes, we're
totally okay with laws like these, or the insane laws around, you know, crime or whatever
it is, or they're electing Marxist DAs or whatever it is, then, you know, I don't know.
lisa reynolds
It's hard to say.
james klug
These are police officers that are probably doing the laws that are enforcing the laws
that a lot of Marxists and or commies or radical leftists want.
lisa reynolds
But you can't get any more leftist than Philadelphia, where I live, right?
We have source-backed DAs, right?
And I just had somebody break into my car a couple months ago.
tim pool
Wow.
lisa reynolds
And the police helped me.
They were there in six minutes.
They helped me.
They chased the guy down the street at four o'clock in the morning with me and my pajamas.
We were running.
We got the guy.
And they all hated the DA.
I had to go to the station and do this little video interview about what happened, and I told them.
Making jokes about the DA and how, like, this guy was just going to be let out.
And they all agreed with me.
They were like, please show up to court because we have these, like, lefties.
They call the police.
They get so mad that, um, they get so mad that, like, people, like, broke into their car or something.
And then they, when their court date comes, they don't show up to, to be a witness or anything because they feel bad for the criminal.
And the cops, at least in this precinct, I mean, they all hated The lefties.
They were all right-wing.
Now, I guess if they're forced to enforce some crappy laws, maybe they will or not, but in their heart of hearts, like they were talking to me, they hate the left.
tim pool
But I would say Philadelphia is not California.
There's a reason why there's an actual fight for Pennsylvania in 2024.
It's like California, there's no question.
lisa reynolds
But Philadelphia itself is like 94% Biden.
tim pool
And that's true, that's true.
And New York is also just, it's Democrat.
And you look at these cops they have in New York City and you are getting, you are getting communist cops, at least too many of them.
lisa reynolds
Yeah, I would say the majority.
This might be in my pocket.
james klug
Definitely a lot of them are ideologically captured 100% when it comes to the police officers.
No doubt about it at all.
They're proud to do that work.
tim pool
Look at the Capitol Police.
james klug
Right.
tim pool
Communists, all of them.
lisa reynolds
Nah, half of them.
I remember there was this black Capitol Police officer and he would say to me, I hate these BLM people.
I hate these Antifa people.
He would say that to me.
He was like on our side.
I would say it's 50-50 for the Capitol Police as somebody who interacted with them.
tim pool
If you were a part of the Capitol Police, you are an honorary communist.
Congratulations.
You don't get to work side-by-side with people who are hunting down middle-aged and old people who walked into a building confused and then be like, but not me.
It's like, well, then quit your job.
lisa reynolds
Yeah, that's true.
I'll give you that.
That's fair enough.
james klug
I was going to add, like, yeah, there are people that have been Capitol Police officers since before, you know, they've seen multiple presidents, right?
But if they're looking at what's happening right now and they're totally fine with it and they're still a Capitol Police officer, Yeah.
Honorary.
You gotta speak up.
tim pool
They'll complain about communists and all that stuff, but they get an honorary degree in communism.
Let's jump to this.
phil labonte
I just think that most of the good cops were probably gone two years ago.
The ACAB sentiment got the really good ones, the guys that you can really rely on.
Anywhere.
I mean, because, dude, there was a ton of people that were retiring because... Yeah, tons of departments saw mass exodus of police officers.
james klug
Right, no, no, you're totally right about that, but there's obviously, like, Huntington Beach Police were, you know, they're next to me, they're phenomenal, like, there's a bunch of departments, but I'm not talking about, you're talking about major cities, generally speaking.
Yeah, I don't know.
phil labonte
Yeah, I think a lot of people retired.
tim pool
Let's go to this next story.
We got this tweet from Elon Musk.
It's a video from Western Lensman.
He says, this is actually happening.
I'm going to play the video for you now, and then we'll talk about what they said.
unidentified
Is it going to play?
tim pool
X videos always do this.
After a little while, the videos just don't play.
You got to refresh.
unidentified
One, flood the country with untold millions of illegals by land, sea, and air from all over the world, enough to eclipse the populations of 36 individual U.S.
states so far.
2. Prioritize the needs of these millions of non-citizens over the needs of the American citizen.
With free flights, buses, hotels, meals and phones, ensuring their loyalty to the political party that imported
them.
3. Keep them in the country at all costs, even when they commit violent crime like murder and rape.
Attack the language used to describe the criminals, as opposed to the criminals themselves.
Slander critics as racist.
4. Ensure their privileges are made irrevocable with city and state sanctuary laws that act as population magnets.
Codify permanent status and ensure non-cooperation with ICE.
5. Count the non-citizens in the census that will determine congressional apportionment in the House of Representatives.
As of now, that would equal 13 extra-congressional districts.
A tremendous amount of electoral power.
6.
Wage a massive, heavily funded lawfare campaign to change state voting laws that legalize mass mail-in ballots, no signature verification, and no proof of citizenship requirements, making it nearly impossible to prove voter fraud.
7.
Lock in the permanent voting majority with campaign promises of lavish benefits and permanent privileges, enshrining generational fealty to the Democrat Party. 8.
Win elections.
Nine.
Entrenched single party rule has been achieved.
The best part?
Your tax dollars are paying for it.
tim pool
The only part that really matters is this.
unidentified
Not this part.
Number five, I think.
The congressional seat.
Yep, yep.
Who made this be systemizing?
city and state.
Who made this business of my status in a non-cooperation device?
Five count the non-citizens of the census that will determine congressional apportionment
in the House of Representatives.
As of now, that would equal 13 extra congressional districts.
tim pool
13 extra congressional districts.
And those are old numbers.
Western Lensmen made the video.
It was a couple years ago, it was estimated that there were 10.1 million criminal aliens living in the United States, which would give you just about 13 congressional seats.
However, the estimates are much higher now with Biden allowing in millions more, so it could be as high as 17.
Democrats have a 17-seat advantage based on spreading out criminal aliens throughout their districts to give themselves extra seats.
So if you're wondering why it seems like there should be a red wave, everyone I know has got Trump signs.
All of the sentiment of all the people in all the communities, it's leaning Trump, the polls say Trump, but somehow Democrats keep getting it.
It's because they have extra congressional seats.
james klug
Yep.
lisa reynolds
And they're only going to get more.
james klug
One, just an amazing video to highlight the agenda there, but also I wanted to add one thing.
I don't know if this was included in there, but also allowing them to vote.
Many people don't know that illegals can actually vote in the United States in some cities.
They can't.
Last December, New York City voted to allow- They lost that.
tim pool
Courts overturned that one.
james klug
Oh, they did?
tim pool
Yeah.
james klug
I was going to say, because Maryland and Vermont, they're cities in Maryland and Vermont that do allow it.
tim pool
And California.
james klug
Yeah.
tim pool
These are local elections.
james klug
These are local elections, but we're still talking about, I mean, this is important stuff happens.
tim pool
And these are the steps they're trying to take to get to the point where they're going to get them to vote.
And they're going to make the argument, they're going to try and equate being undocumented to being a slave.
They're going to say, there are undocumented citizens in this country.
james klug
Right.
tim pool
Who, because they don't have the proper paperwork, are being denied their voice in their own communities.
How could that be allowed?
It's like slavery.
That's the game they're going to play.
unidentified
13 extra seats.
james klug
It's also the same argument, because people are like, oh, well, it's just city elections.
Well, first of all, a lot of important things are decided on a city and local level.
But second of all, the same, basically, argument is just going to be made for congressional elections as well as presidential elections.
The same thing will be made.
They're not going to change the argument at all, they're just going to move forward a little bit.
tim pool
Local elections are more important.
Right.
And they're already making the argument that these are people who live in our communities who should have a say in how things are done at the local level.
We get it, not at the federal level, but locally.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
phil labonte
The federal, the fact that...
The point that they make in there about the apportionment and about congressional seats, that's the most important thing that the average person probably doesn't, it probably doesn't occur to the average person.
And that's the point that I think we really should drive home when it comes to, when it comes to the immigration question or the conversation about immigration and what the effects are.
Driving home the fact that these people are counted in the census, and the argument that they're gonna give, they're gonna say, no, they don't get counted in the census.
People that are here undocumented, they don't come out and admit it, which is horseshit, they do.
Because the people that go and do the census, they don't talk about whether or not there are citizens.
All they say is, the only thing we wanna know is how many people live there.
And the people that are that are undocumented, they're generally informed by the people that are there to do the sentences.
Hey, we're not going to turn you into ice.
They're not there to scare these people.
So the major argument of the left that gives you is, oh, no, they don't do that.
They won't talk to the government.
That's horseshit.
So first of all, and second of all, this is exactly like they said.
This is what is going to be used to get the, to give basically one party all political power.
tim pool
And don't forget congressional seats are electoral college votes.
james klug
I also want to add one thing.
If you're having that conversation with a leftist, they actually don't care about that argument at all.
phil labonte
No, you have to be able to.
james klug
It has to be someone that's like, they know that they don't have a problem with it.
They want them to vote.
phil labonte
They want them to do all sorts of stuff.
I'm not talking about trying to convince.
Yeah, because we're not trying to convince leftists.
Leftists are not going to be convinced.
We're trying to convince your average Democrat that is a liberal that they have been conned by progressives and communists.
They need to understand that there is a cultural revolution going on in the United States currently, right now.
That's why things like the Pride Progress flag have taken the place of,
you know, has taken the place of other flags that used to represent our history and stuff like that.
tim pool
Frederick, Maryland flies the pride flag on their city hall.
phil labonte
Constantly, those things are being held up in, you know, in churches and stuff like that
across the country.
It is a cultural revolution that is happening in this country and we need to do everything we can
to stop it.
lisa reynolds
My neighbor flies a pride flag out all of June.
So I put up- No, I do have the Betsy Ross normally, but in Pride Month I put up a straight pride flag just to piss them off that they're not really happy about it.
tim pool
We're going to put up in our Casper locations Molon Labe, Gonzales flag, Gadsden flag, You know, I get the straight pride thing, but I'm like, you know, the Gadsden flag is an American symbol of independence, liberty, personal responsibility, etc.
phil labonte
That's smart because the straight pride flag is a response to them.
Ignore them.
james klug
It's more of a troll.
It's more of a troll.
unidentified
Normal people don't even know what it is.
tim pool
And that's the problem.
And that's the problem.
We need to create a cultural sphere of influence, not flick people off.
They walk by and say, I wonder why she's flicking them off.
Whatever.
You put up a Gadsden flag and they're like, oh, it's one of those.
lisa reynolds
Yeah, my thing is that I want to make them as uncomfortable as they've made us for so long.
tim pool
No, but they like it.
lisa reynolds
They don't.
My neighbors hate it.
They refuse to talk to me.
They run inside their house every time they see me.
tim pool
You're in their arena.
We don't want to go into their arena.
Republicans need to stop being like, Democrats, can I please play with you?
This is why everything we invest in is cultural endeavors, because as that quote goes, Republicans care more about the opinion of the New York Times than of their own constituents.
Republicans only ever respond to the narrative of the left.
That's a huge mistake.
phil labonte
That's what's such a good thing about the bloodbath stuff.
The bloodbath thing is where the right has totally ignored the way that the left is framing it, the way that the media is framing it, and they've grabbed it, taken it, and laughed hysterically, and memed it, and made jokes about it.
And what they're doing by doing that is making culture.
They're not responding to the left.
They're saying, no, this is ours right now.
We're taking this.
We're not letting that happen.
james klug
I think a little bit of both is important.
I think trolling kind of makes you a little bit more, like, almost personable and it's more fun and they're having fun.
But I do 100% agree, the right absolutely needs to be taking, you know, the lead.
tim pool
Setting the narrative.
lisa reynolds
But there is a PSYOP thing to it.
So it encourages other people to not be afraid to speak out.
So for example, James had been at my house and he noticed that my Wi-Fi is Trump, well I think it's still Trump 2020 or 2024, and he noticed that like somebody else had changed their Wi-Fi password to like Trump people are in a cult because of mine.
So then I changed it to like long live Clarence Thomas or whatever.
We were having these Wi-Fi wars.
Well, Other people around started putting pro-Trump, whatever.
It doesn't matter if it's anonymous.
It makes those people feel like they're outnumbered, because they are.
It makes them feel as uncomfortable as they have made us feel forever.
tim pool
My point is, putting up a giant I love Clarence Thomas is not something as esoteric as a straight pride flag.
lisa reynolds
That's really just to piss off my neighbor.
james klug
Right.
tim pool
Sure, sure.
My thing is, the New York Times says jump and all the conservative personalities say how high?
phil labonte
Yep.
100%.
lisa reynolds
I don't.
phil labonte
That's why it's so good, the way that the right has responded about the bloodbath thing, and that is something that people on the right need to pay attention to in the future.
Stop letting the left jerk your attention around.
Be in control of your own concern.
And for that matter... It's a good thing that the bloodbath thing was taken by the right.
tim pool
We talked about this on the members show, the TikTok bill for the divestiture bill.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
You know, we were having a minor debate over the issue again and I said, the issue people are arguing is not the bill, it's bills in general.
The complaint is that government can construe a bill to give themselves privileges the bill didn't intend, in which case don't pass any bills.
I then went to congress.gov and I looked up a whole bunch of bills and I'm like...
Why are we talking about TikTok?
There's a whole bunch of crazy-ass bills right now that would give the president powers over, like, oil distribution, food distribution.
There's one that would give bureaucrats the power to, like, shut down farms and suspend food production.
lisa reynolds
Which they're already doing anyway.
tim pool
But the media comes out and yells TikTok.
TikTok sends a notification to their users, and the only thing we talk about is TikTok.
And I'm like, There's, like, a lot of bills that no one ever looks at and looks into that would create circuitous methods of extreme control from bureaucrats and the president.
lisa reynolds
A lot of them don't make it to the floor they are introduced, but it is good to know, like, what these members are thinking and where they want the power to go and to be cautious of that, for sure.
But you're right.
Nobody's reading, like, Punchbowl and Politico in the morning to see what the House is up to every day.
They're just not doing that.
They're reading The New York Times.
tim pool
We got big moves, though, ladies and gentlemen.
Let's jump to this story from the Daily Mail.
Multi-million dollar fund manager ditches Tyson Foods, saying meat giant sacking U.S.
workers to hire 42,000 asylum seekers is the woke liberal takeover of America.
A $79 million conservative ETF has divested from Tyson Foods.
Now, here's the thing.
They didn't come out and they say, get woke, go broke, haha, you know, we're going to divest because we're conservative.
They said, we saw what happened with Bud Light and we saw what happened with Target and we are protecting our shareholders by divesting from Tyson Foods.
Tyson Foods says we want to hire asylum seekers, especially those who have recently come in.
What they're saying is, as they shut down a plant, I believe it's in Iowa, and lay off 1,300 people, they want to hire criminal aliens when Democrats give them work permits.
So now there is a massive call to boycott all Tyson Foods and give them the Bud Light treatment.
And I am, I'm all for it!
That's what you guys are gonna do.
Any company that says, don't hire American, is a company you don't wanna buy from.
And if you're looking for chicken, you can go to publicsquare.com and see what chicken providers there are.
lisa reynolds
I don't think I've even ever... I haven't bought Tyson food because I feel like it's like... Kind of gross.
Yeah, I haven't bought Tyson food in forever.
tim pool
Look, you go to the supermarket and the Tyson bag is like processed chicken covered in processed garbage with processed preservatives and there's fresh chicken breast right there from, you know, like, you can just get the chicken breast and bread it yourself.
phil labonte
I'm a snob at the grocery store.
james klug
You guys, my Lyft driver today brought this up, actually.
tim pool
Really?
unidentified
He was livid.
james klug
And he was the one that brought it up, right?
He started talking to this about me.
Talking about this with me.
And he, you know, whenever a story like this is reaching the general public, that's when, you know, people are really getting over it and they're definitely staying, like, informed of what is going on.
They see this kind of America last energy under this regime.
lisa reynolds
And the prices of the chicken!
james klug
Exactly.
And people are so tired of it.
He told me all about it.
I think before I even saw the story or even looked into it, he was talking to me about it.
How's my Lyft driving today?
lisa reynolds
$12 to $15 for a pack of chicken right now, for a pound of chicken, and then you're going to not hire the American people that are trying to buy your chicken?
I hate these people.
tim pool
It's a parasitic machine.
It's sucking away the ownership, the buying power, and the wealth of the American population, siphoning it off to non-citizens to strip from you.
Just to pause and go back to the squatter story, what is the point of allowing squatters to do what they do?
This woman inherited property from her parents, who earned, saved, bought, and gave their daughter and their granddaughter some wealth they left behind for them.
And the state is trying to make sure you will own nothing.
lisa reynolds
I'd find a way to come back from the grave and, like, haunt those people if they took anything from my kids.
I would be outraged.
james klug
But this is a part of the shift.
This is a part of the shift of the left ditching the working class, and it's reaching the masses.
People are seeing this.
They're no longer that party, if they ever were, of the lower... I don't know.
I mean, maybe at the very bottom they're definitely appealing to maybe some of those people.
The working class?
Absolutely not.
Not anymore.
lisa reynolds
I think that they're saying that Biden and this administration is a problem.
But my brother, you know, he's a conservative, but his friends are liberal and he's in a group chat and they're in this group chat saying, you know, RFK and Aaron Rodgers.
That's like the only way.
And I'm like, I was like, God, these are just regular guys that go to the gym and they live
james klug
their life and they're not willing to make the jump.
They're not willing to make the jump yet.
Maybe they will eventually if they keep seeing how America lasts.
The Democratic Party actually is.
But those people aren't making the jump yet.
There's a lot of people that are apolitical that don't like this.
phil labonte
Orange man bad.
Orange man bad is still a real thing.
tim pool
I orange man and right.
james klug
President Chido is bad and people still believe that.
phil labonte
I spent the past two weeks in Los Angeles hanging out with a bunch of people that are
not politically active and stuff.
And there is an exhaustion that they that they have with Biden.
They are pissed because they wanted things to go back to normal.
They I mean, listen, I told them I've been telling you remember that song.
tim pool
Hate to say I told you so.
phil labonte
Yes, I've been telling them it's never coming back.
And what happened to return to normal?
Because I'm like, you know, outside of the normal political perspective guy, they don't
you know, they're like, I feel whatever.
But I'm like, look, it is never going to be normal again because Donald Trump is not the reason it is not normal.
Donald Trump is a symptom.
He is not a cause.
unidentified
Yep.
lisa reynolds
What these people are failing to realize is that Biden is like a shell of a human, so who's actually running it?
It's still Democrats.
They don't care.
That doesn't matter to them.
But that's the point.
They still want to vote Democrat, right?
But they're saying it's Biden that's bad.
phil labonte
The reason is because they want back to normal, and they're not ever going to believe that it won't come back.
tim pool
But Biden is the cause of it.
phil labonte
I know.
lisa reynolds
But it's Democrats.
tim pool
That's what I'm talking about.
The Democrat and the Uniparty establishment are the cause of Donald Trump.
If you were to get rid... Let's say you ended up with a Ron Paul type, maybe even a Tulsi Gabbard.
She's not as Ron Paul-y.
But let's say you brought in someone who actually said, OK, let me try and listen to the American people and do something about these problems this country is facing.
Maybe no more foreign wars.
Actually get in touch with the working class.
Donald Trump would not be necessary.
The problem is when people were like, you know what, I kind of like this Bernie Sanders guy.
Bernie Sanders was saying no open borders, he was saying support the unions, he was saying no to NAFTA, and then the Democrats said no, and so Donald Trump was like, vote for me and I'll kick in the door, and they were like, done.
phil labonte
Done, Trump, you're my guy.
james klug
The craziest thing, Phil, is that you're having friends that are talking to you about how they're sick and tired of what's going on.
That blows my mind when they have the entire media machine on their side.
phil labonte
That's why they're sick and tired.
They don't realize that the media that's feeding them stuff is their dealer.
That's the poison.
They're being fed garbage and they think that it's true, but they're being fed the whole bloodbath thing.
That is why.
james klug
Oh, they're still having a problem with Trump?
phil labonte
No.
The point is, they listen to the media telling them how terrible Trump is and how bad Trump is.
They're hoping that it will go back to normal.
But the thing is, even if it's not Donald Trump, if it was DeSantis or whoever, they would be saying the same things about him.
The normal is gone.
The normal from the left is nothing but hyperbole.
Nothing but catastrophe.
Nothing but if we don't win, it is the end.
And that is all that is ever going to be because they have lost the pretense of even talking about policy.
It's all Donald Trump is evil.
It's all they're going to go and put you in chains.
It's all that same, terrify the crap out of them.
unidentified
Right.
james klug
I thought you were talking about that they're tired of Joe Biden.
phil labonte
They're tired of Joe Biden because Joe Biden was supposed to do things to make it better.
james klug
So my point was, they're getting tired of Biden and Biden has the media machine on his side.
That shows you how bad it actually is.
That was my point.
lisa reynolds
Even worse than that, Biden is just like a figurehead because he's clearly not there.
So they're still going to vote Democrat even if they're tired of Biden.
They're not getting that it's not him making the decisions and they're still going to vote Democrat in that deep state of their Which, by the way, they are acknowledging that there is a deep state.
Did you see that article that came out?
I think it was today that was like, oh, there is a deep state and it's cool, right?
But they're not even paying attention to it.
So you're hating all these policies.
You're attributing it to somebody who's not even senile.
He's not even there.
So it's the Democrat machine that you hate.
Why are you going to vote for that again?
unidentified
Why do they think Aaron Rodgers is going to be different?
phil labonte
Bad, Lisa!
That's exactly why!
james klug
He's cheeto color, Lisa.
He's cheeto color.
tim pool
Here's the article.
It turns out the deep state is actually kind of awesome from the New York Times.
lisa reynolds
It didn't exist and now it's great.
Same old story.
Didn't exist and now it's great.
james klug
Insane.
tim pool
Unelected bureaucrats who are directing your life and telling you your thoughts don't matter are great.
That's what they say.
That's the New York Times.
Remember when the New York Times said, actually, critical thinking is a bad thing?
phil labonte
Yeah.
lisa reynolds
Every right-wing person that says, this is happening, they say, no, it's not happening, that's a conspiracy theory, and then later, oh, it is happening and it's wonderful.
phil labonte
We have to manipulate democracy or else we're going to lose democracy.
Everything is insane now!
tim pool
Jimmy Dore has one of the best comedy bits on that whole narrative of don't do your own research, critical thinking is bad.
He was like, we used to call it Reading!
Imagine the person coming out and he's like, I feel like I'm waking up in a Bill Hicks bit where he's like, looks like we got ourselves a reader!
What you reading for, boy?
And then he's like, imagine any other subject where they said don't look, don't research, and you go to your friend and you go, I'm thinking about buying a car, don't look into it!
And then he says, this is all Jimmy Dore, it's brilliant, he goes, what?
Well how am I supposed to know which car to buy?
Ask the salesman, he's the expert.
That's the narrative they were giving us in the media.
phil labonte
It literally is!
james klug
That's right.
tim pool
Ask the salesman.
I'm like, the absurdity is right there in your face.
Everybody knows the auto dealer is going to crank the price up and sell you things you don't need.
james klug
No, Democrats are in like the funniest position, right?
Because they're being sold like, you know, they're the democracy protectors, TM.
They're also fighting against fascism.
And it's like, yeah, in order to fight against fascism, listen, we have to censor.
We have to take away your guns.
We have to do all these things.
But that's just all to stop fascism.
tim pool
So you've got this Missouri Supreme Court arguments that are happening about social media.
The federal government was going to social media and saying, hey, look at this post.
It should be taken down.
Why wasn't this taken down?
And the argument from the government is, That's not pressure.
That's a suggestion of their own moderation policies.
Ketanji Brown in the Supreme Court says, I feel like the First Amendment is... So you're saying that the First Amendment is hamstringing the... I feel like the First Amendment is hamstringing the government here.
lisa reynolds
He was trying to say that that was his argument.
He's like, well, yeah, that's what it's supposed to do.
phil labonte
She needs to be removed.
From her seat.
It is an abomination that she is allowed to be on that on the court.
She refused she refused to Acknowledge that you that she can make a distinction between a man and a woman.
She was lying Everyone knows she was lying There is no the the every day that she sits on that court is a day that the court is more It loses credibility.
It is ridiculous.
Let me just point And they allow her to talk more than anyone else!
james klug
By the way, I want to point out one thing.
Every single Supreme Court Justice that the Democrats are going to, you know, put in a seat from now on will act and behave exactly like that woman.
phil labonte
Absolutely.
james klug
They have absolutely no intention of, you know, putting someone forward that actually understands the Constitution and can properly interpret it.
phil labonte
No, they're putting people on that will intentionally and bold-faced lie!
james klug
Right.
lisa reynolds
I mean, that's what she was doing.
She was basically saying that the government has the responsibility.
The government's responsibility is to protect our rights, right?
She was like, no, we need it here so that we can protect you.
But what the whole crazy part was, is she was like, well, we want to stop misinformation or whatever, but they were the ones that were lying.
They were the ones that were lying and you were suppressing what was really true.
tim pool
One of my favorite arguments from the government's solicitor general was that if the government is doing good, then you're allowed to violate the Constitution.
That's literally what their argument was.
But we think we're doing good things, so it should be allowed.
It's like, uh-huh.
phil labonte
Right.
It's infuriating to hear people talk like that, because the concept of the Constitution is supposed to be, like, the Constitution gives the government the powers that it has, and if it's not in there, then the government doesn't have that power.
And there's even a whole list of ten things specifically the government ain't allowed to touch, and yet all it does is violate the whole Bill of Rights.
tim pool
Ladies and gentlemen, I hope you are prepared for this next segment from MSNBC.
I give you.
Context only makes Trump's bloodbath comment worse.
phil labonte
I am going to die.
unidentified
That's what Jen Psaki was saying.
james klug
Why won't they stop?
tim pool
Actually, when it was proven that Trump was making a comment about the economy, it's worse than when he was talking about political violence.
lisa reynolds
Jen Psaki did a whole segment on that.
She's like, context matters.
And she kept going over, like, all the half clips that he's always said and trying to use that as the context.
tim pool
This is from the other day, from yesterday.
Norman Eisen, former impeachment counsel to the House Judiciary Committee, and Ruth Ben-Gyat, MSNBC columnist.
They write, Former President Donald Trump told a crowd in Dayton, Ohio on Saturday that if he does not get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath for the country.
That will be the least of it.
Trump's campaign and his supporters insist that he was simply talking about an economic bloodbath for the automotive industry, which was his topic immediately before and after this interjection.
IMMEDIATELY BEFORE AND AFTER?
WHAT OTHER- WHAT?
Okay, here they go.
We agree with those who think he was not just talking about cars.
Trump was implicitly THREATENING the nation with VIOLENCE.
That follows from his words and demeanor in the rest of his speech.
His overall positioning as American savior from the existential threats, and the broader context of his attacks on DEMOCRACY, as analyzed by one of the authors of this piece, analyzes the American Autocracy Threat Tracker.
Oh, very brilliant.
Threat Tracker.
Though the arc of Trump's thoughts is famously hard to follow, his campaign rhetoric repeats his basic narratives with small variations and blah blah blah, I absolutely love this.
They say Trump says bloodbath!
And Joe Scarborough's like, I can't believe he said bloodbath!
And then people play those clips of Joe Scarborough saying bloodbath like 300 times.
And then they write an article where they're like, he was talking about the automotive industry before, during, and after, but by saying bloodbath, actually he meant he was going to kill people.
james klug
Yeah.
This is the most, I mean, I actually think a lot of this doubling down has to do with the right wing being so on top of it at the very moment of it breaking.
So they had to either back out or they had to completely double, triple down and that's exactly what they've decided to do.
None of us are surprised.
I mean, their goal is to just get these headlines out there.
How many people are seeing the headlines and not reading the article, right?
Or not even going to find the truth.
So their goal is to just find that Sorry, send those headlines out there just for the general public to see and say, yep, you know, the media, why would they be lying about this?
Trump definitely said this.
They're going to be sticking with this definitely throughout the next year.
lisa reynolds
But you of all people know it works.
When you interview people on the street, that's all they bring up are all these real quick headlines.
james klug
They know the headline works.
And if you're talking to a leftist and they bring this up, it's going to take you a few moments to explain the context, which at that point, the person's already closed their ears.
They don't want to hear it.
tim pool
So my brother, uh, has this really funny post.
He asked ChatGPT for, if Donald Trump says there will be a bloodbath if he isn't elected, what does that, what does he mean?
And ChatGPT says, if Donald Trump stated there would be a bloodbath if he isn't re-elected, it's likely a metaphorical expression rather than a literal one.
In political context, bloodbath often refers to a disastrous or very negative outcome, potentially indicating severe political, economic, or social turmoil.
It might suggest that his not being re-elected could lead to significant unrest or a metaphorical fight within the political landscape, possibly resulting in negative consequences for the country or his political party.
This kind of language is often used to emphasize the importance of an election or to rally support by suggesting dire consequences if the outcome is not favorable.
It's important to interpret such statements within the broader context of the speech or discussion in which they were made.
To which my brother wrote, This is amazing!
AI has already surpassed the intelligence of Democrats.
Soon, it could be more intelligent than the average human.
lisa reynolds
You know, national IQ's been dropping, and the more people that they let in from these other countries who have, like, their average is 85 IQ points, we're all going down.
tim pool
It's all going to go to 100.
100's the average.
Yes, I understand.
So when you have a population and everyone, if you take a bunch of people whose IQs are 80, and you put them into the American population, the IQ average stays at 100.
It's just that everyone's stupider.
IQ is an average.
lisa reynolds
Fine, but I'm saying that we're getting stupider.
But if you look at our IQ numbers over time, we're going up.
james klug
You guys, really quick, Babylon Bee posted this I think today or yesterday.
It says, unhinged Trump threatens more violence by promising to trigger a landslide on election day.
tim pool
There was actually a couple of them.
What was the other one that was really good?
Let me find it.
james klug
Yeah, everyone's having fun with this, but I'm glad that people actually showed the truth as well.
I think that the impact that these situations have on people that actually care, that actually want to be informed, will take the time to see that the media completely is lying to them.
That's waking up a ton of people.
So yes, Lisa, to your point, yes, this is going to work on the leftists, especially when I'm talking to people on the street.
They're going to be bringing this up for years.
I'm going to be dealing with this for years.
But a lot of people that care are going to change their minds for sure.
tim pool
BabylonB has two of them.
One of them was, unhinged Trump threatens more violence by promising to trigger a landslide on election day.
And it shows a picture of a landslide.
The other one was, media reports Trump threatened nuclear war after he says this guacamole is the bomb.
phil labonte
I heard the bomb when I didn't hear it.
lisa reynolds
The difference between this election cycle, though, and last time is that we don't have Twitter.
We have Twitter now.
Like, at least the message is getting out more to more people because we're allowed to talk there.
tim pool
The Babylon Beast has nine times Trump clearly called for bloodshed.
One, when he told an actor to break a leg, wishing physical pain and suffering on an innocent Hollywood entertainer is no laughing matter.
Two, when he said the chocolate cake at Mar-a-Lago was to die for, calling all of his fanatical followers to die for his cause, of course.
When he said he was going to crush the competition, literally announcing his plan to kill his competitors.
When he said he was about to blow up the bathroom.
Here we go.
When he told Kevin McAllister in Home Alone 2 that the lobby was down the hall and to the left, clearly code for genocide against the political left.
When he said the New York Jets were getting slaughtered.
When he said, make America great again, the phrase harkens back to a time when there was great bloodshed like the Civil War.
When he told Melania she looked drop-dead gorgeous, prayed for that woman's safety, and on January 6th when he said, you have to go home now, we have to have peace, we have to have law and order, there's never been a more dangerous violent statement made in American history.
That was a good one, that last one.
james klug
Tim, back to our earlier conversation talking about, like, how the Republicans can't just be reactionary, they also have to lead.
I think this was an interesting moment where, yes, they were reactionary, they were having fun with it as well, but they also led the conversation on social media, specifically X, when it comes to showing the context and also showing what Trump was actually talking about, which, by the way, is really important to Ohioans.
I mean, they're a top three, I believe, manufacturer for the automotive industry in the United States.
The stuff actually matters to these people.
So drawing more attention to that while also making fun of the left wing.
The left wing's TDS is, I think, a home run.
tim pool
My brother was like, they're pretending to be stupid.
And I was like, maybe they are stupid.
phil labonte
Maybe they're not pretending.
tim pool
Well, but it really does feel like they're pretending not to understand.
phil labonte
It does.
james klug
There's a goal.
tim pool
Is their goal to like, Look man, I've seen these videos from like, you know, Fleckas or whatever, where they go to Times Square and they're like, can you name a country that starts with the letter U?
And they're like, uh, Utah.
And it's like, that's a state.
And they're like, oh, then no, I can't.
How about the United States of America?
And they go, oh, I don't think this works on those people either.
You know? Yeah. Like saying Trump called for a bloodbath to those people who are just not smart
enough to understand the country they live in or geography or this is not going to sway them to
vote. They're going to vote no matter what. You're going to vote Democrat when the ballot comes in.
james klug
Driving the hatred deeper and deeper with their base, you know, the left-wing base is also
beneficial because people will turn out not to just vote for Joe Biden, as we know, they'll
turn out to vote against Donald Trump.
So there are multiple benefits to them doing this.
They know the benefit of just getting the headlines out there.
The right wing could never pull this off.
One, I think, I think the right wing would call the media out, the right wing media out.
But also the right wing is too small to do this.
You know, mainstream media is so powerful.
They know they can get away with these lies.
And it doesn't matter if, you know, Daily Wire releases an article debunking it.
tim pool
It really does come out of this.
This doesn't work on the right because the right are scrupulous and inquisitive and the left is passive.
So this article, context only makes Trump's bloodbath comment worse.
The point of the article is not the article at all.
It's the headline making an assertion that someone will see on their timeline on Facebook or wherever and they'll not think twice.
phil labonte
Because the average person that they're targeting is only going to spend about 30 minutes a week actually ingesting politics.
lisa reynolds
Maybe less.
phil labonte
Maybe less, but they have kids, they have family, they got to get to soccer, they got to get to work, they got blah blah blah.
My guitar player has one child.
He is two and a half now and he is astounded that other people can actually have two children and go to work like he has no idea how it happens for sure and I'm like look if this is hard for you like imagine what people that have like a boatload of kids or or Have you a normal life?
They don't have the time to to look into it, or at least they don't have the interest to look into this stuff.
They want most of their politics to be handled by other people, and they want to be able to feel good about who they're voting for, which is why they do the default Democrat.
The Democrats are the nice ones, the Republicans are mean, and they hear that all night long on late night TV and on all of the sitcoms they watch.
tim pool
You've got two parents, and you've got the one parent that, like, here's how I feel, okay?
Dad is frumpy, middle-aged office worker who will say things like, well, maybe you should get a job.
And then the kid goes, shut up, dad!
And he goes, well, okay, I guess.
And then the mom is like, anything for you, sweetie.
I'm going to buy you all ice cream.
And the kid's fat and lazy.
lisa reynolds
That's not the way it works in my house.
tim pool
I'm talking about the country.
Like the Republican Party is just sitting there being like, You know, son, I think you should maybe get a job.
Dad, that's awful.
And the mom goes, no, Sweetums shouldn't get a job.
You could stay in the basement, play video games all day.
I'll take care of it.
Your brother works real hard.
He can pitch in for the bills.
phil labonte
Good times make soft money.
james klug
Yeah.
It's crazy that you brought that up because I actually, I always say something similar to that, except for I do, instead of a married couple, it's maybe an uncle.
You want to be liked or something like that.
The kids get ice cream for breakfast.
Great.
Like I'll be the favorite uncle, but that's irresponsible parenting, of course.
But the kids are going to like you, right?
Uh, they get home, the parents are saying, you gotta eat healthy, you have to be responsible, you have to do all these things.
You know.
tim pool
You know, ice cream's probably better than cereal.
james klug
Right.
tim pool
So cereal's real bad.
lisa reynolds
You see these moms on TikTok though.
They're obese and their children are obese.
They have them set in front of the TV and they're cutting up donuts and plating it.
They're showing that's what they give their kids for breakfast.
These nasty glazed donuts and then they put a couple cereal without milk on the plate and then there's their breakfast as they're staring at a TV screen.
tim pool
You're not going to tell me that a political party that historically was eugenicist Is not doing this on purpose, right?
They're like, have you considered gorging yourself on disgusting poison?
Not working out because working out is bad for you?
I love that narrative.
They were like, working out is a gateway to the right.
You should remain fat, sedentary, body positive, eat your ice cream, shut up and abort your babies.
And I'm like, you know, someone who says that.
Like, if I went to my worst enemy and said, why don't you go and gorge yourself on ice cream all day, stop working out, and abort your kids?
Like, that's a mean thing to say to somebody, but that is the message of the Democratic Party for the most part.
lisa reynolds
So true.
tim pool
Healthy at every size!
Eat whatever you want!
We don't care!
So there's an article...
Cancer is expected to skyrocket in the United States among young people.
And I'm like, yeah, because they're massively overweight.
It's like some people think it's the vaccine or whatever.
I'm like, look, I don't know about that.
I can tell you this, you got a lot of lazy, sedentary people who are being told that being fat is good and to embrace it.
And that will lead to cancer.
But again, back to the main points I'm getting in all that.
You've got one political party that says, don't exercise, don't research, eat the plastic garbage, Don't have children.
Don't have kids.
Sterilize your kids.
Abort your kids.
james klug
Also take all the pharmaceuticals.
lisa reynolds
Every vaccine available.
tim pool
I just gotta say, real quick, it seems like they don't want you to exist.
You know what I mean?
Alex Jones, what he said on the Culture Wars show last year, they are setting bear traps, announcing where the bear traps are, and if you step in them, it's your fault.
james klug
Yeah, I think the idea of the right wing being like the modern day party of fitness and maybe even yoga and eating organic foods is actually a pretty funny concept.
It's pretty wild how far we've come.
tim pool
It is kind of crazy that the right is so health obsessed that there's always some new thing to fear.
And so I've gotten to this point where Luke, he comes out and he's like, the seed oils!
The seed oils!
And I'm like, okay, the seed oils.
And now at this point, I'm like, I'm, I'm only going to drink water and I'm eating like rice flour with jam.
I'm checking all the ingredients.
I'm cutting everything out.
Just now, if anyone ever comes to me and points out, oh, you know, uh, lecithin?
Ooh, I got, no, no, I cut that out of my diet.
You did?
Yup.
I'm 10 steps ahead of you.
I just decided I'm going to eat raw fish and nothing else.
lisa reynolds
We've become the party of the people, right?
The blue collar worker.
And we're also the crunchy granola people too.
phil labonte
Republicans are full of earthy, crunchy people now.
now. Yeah, like Vermont just like was like, Oh, Donald Trump. I got a challenge. I got
tim pool
I got a challenge. I say by election day, everybody who is not exercising is not in
shape. Challenge yourself that this year by election day, you should be fit. Because you
know, even no, no, because look, look, if you want to win a culture war, if you want
to win culturally, you got to take responsibility for everything, including yourself.
So I got a personal trainer, and you don't need a personal trainer, there are apps that can do these things for you, and it is really easy.
I was surprised how easy it is.
Half an hour?
10 minutes every day.
You really don't need that much to crank up your health.
phil labonte
A little bit.
Honestly, not even, and I love the idea 100%, but honestly, not even get fit by November.
Just start walking and walk 20 minutes a day and do that, you know, five times a week until November.
and your life will change.
tim pool
I was reading this thing about an 85 year old man who was like, I don't know the metric,
but his health was like really, really good.
He was fit.
He had good circulation and everything.
And he said he does a pretty intense workout every day.
And they asked him what it was.
And he says he would walk around.
He would walk four blocks.
He was just like, he'll go for a walk for 15 minutes.
And they were like, that's it.
And he's like, that's all it takes.
And seriously.
phil labonte
Yeah.
james klug
I want to add something really quick.
I, uh, if, if people are actually looking to get into going to the gym and start working out and start being healthy, uh, one gym partner will change the game.
Find a gym partner.
If you can, it's going to change the game for you.
And then also morning workouts.
It's going to give you more energy throughout the day.
Ever since I started doing that, I actually can get through my day way better than I used to be able to do it.
tim pool
I heard a really good idea today, actually.
I don't know what apps you can use that might help you do this, but the general idea is workout partner.
And the challenge is, if you miss a workout, you gotta send your partner $10.
james klug
Yeah, I like that.
lisa reynolds
You know what's good to have, too?
james klug
It's crucial, it's crucial.
Shout out to Christian, my boy Christian.
lisa reynolds
It's good to have a friend who sends you pictures of ideal bodies every day and says, hey, get to the gym.
That's him right there.
He'll send me hot chicks and be like, Lisa, get to the gym.
james klug
There's absolutely no evidence that I do that.
unidentified
So true.
tim pool
All right, let's jump to this next story.
Ladies and gentlemen, from Vanity Fair, Letitia James could start seizing Trump's assets on Monday after the ex-president admits he's too cash poor to pay $464 million civil fraud judgment.
He's too cash poor.
I don't know if that... Look, I don't know there is a single human being on the planet who has, individually in their name, $464 million in cash.
unidentified
He'd be stupid.
tim pool
So to refer to that as poor is the wrong way.
How about he is not the wealthiest, he is not the most cash-rich man on the planet, therefore he can't pay this.
Does that work?
james klug
I just think at this point, you know, they're looking for an own here with these headlines.
They're just basically showing how financially illiterate they are.
Like, nobody just has $500 million in the bank just chilling.
Like, they wouldn't.
lisa reynolds
Right, but most, like, the average voter doesn't.
james klug
Billionaires, by the way.
lisa reynolds
Right, but the average voter, they don't invest.
They don't invest in stocks or whatever.
They rely on Social Security.
tim pool
Trump's a billionaire.
unidentified
Trump's a billionaire.
james klug
Doesn't he just have it all in his bank account?
lisa reynolds
All in his Wells Fargo account.
tim pool
People really think that's kind of wild.
Here's the crazy thing.
Trump isn't the sole owner of his properties in New York.
This could mean that they want to try to seize his assets, but they cannot.
They would have to force Trump to sell.
They could not seize the building.
They could try and seize his share, but then it creates problems with other partners in these buildings, so they can't just do that, which is interesting.
lisa reynolds
They could put liens on the properties.
tim pool
So what I was reading earlier is Trump may be liable, but he has partners in these buildings.
things.
The government can't go after those partners because of something Trump did, so it effectively locks those properties unless the state negotiates with those partners.
Theoretically, they might not be able to seize anything, and Trump might just be able to tell them to go screw themselves.
lisa reynolds
This has to go to court, though.
On Monday, they can't just start seizing his property.
It has to go to court and through a litigation process.
tim pool
No, no, no.
It did.
That's over.
lisa reynolds
No, I thought it has to go to another one for the seizing assets part.
I'm pretty sure it is.
unidentified
You mean to take his... To take his assets, yes.
james klug
Wouldn't they have to figure out which assets he'd be removing?
lisa reynolds
Right, yeah.
Once he couldn't take the bond part, then it goes to... and they decide they want to seize his assets, then it has to go through another litigation process, I believe.
I'm almost certain.
tim pool
I believe, I believe you are correct.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
That they would now have to file saying, we are going to now seize this.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's worth X. And the interesting thing is... How about the overvalued properties then?
Well, but, but that's going to be interesting because Trump's partners in these properties, because there's no, of course he as a single individual doesn't own them.
They're going to say, this property is worth 20 million and the partners are going to go, it's 300 million.
Uh oh, this is an impasse.
I mean, they're corrupt and they're doing whatever they want anyway, but it's gonna be really interesting when they're like, Trump's properties are overvalued, therefore we're seizing them, and the partner's saying, nope, we're valuing them even higher now.
unidentified
Then what?
tim pool
They're gonna say, you're committing fraud by claiming they're worth more.
lisa reynolds
The precedent that's set, by the way, is like, anybody who ever gets a mortgage is now committing fraud.
tim pool
Guys, I gotta read this.
I gotta read this.
Go for it.
But wait, one might say if Trump is as rich as he says he is, and his business is as successful as he has long claimed, coming up with $557 million should be no problem.
But of course, Trump isn't as rich as he claims to be.
As of last year, he was reportedly worth $2.6 billion, which is a lot richer than your average American, but nowhere near what he has bragged about, and definitely not enough to put up more than half a billion in cash.
There is not a single human being on the planet who has half a billion dollars in cash.
Liquid.
Liquid.
lisa reynolds
Right.
tim pool
Not a single human being.
lisa reynolds
You'd be stupid to do that!
james klug
Yeah, you'd be a total moron, but also, you know, when it comes to Donald Trump, you look at all these before and afters with people, you know, let's say them getting into Congress and then leaving, or becoming the president and then leaving, and everyone walks away more wealthy.
Donald Trump was probably, in recent history, one of the only exceptions to that rule.
His net worth actually dropped after he left office, because During his presidency, they tried sabotaging him on every level as well.
This is probably the most egregious case against him right now, though.
For sure.
Nobody was shafted out of any money.
It's a typical, hey, I'm getting a loan.
What is this property worth?
I think it's worth this.
lisa reynolds
And the money that he would have to pay goes to the state.
So that's going to go to who?
Illegal aliens?
Right?
unidentified
Right.
lisa reynolds
Israel.
Israel.
james klug
I think that money is just going to be turned into bombs.
lisa reynolds
Whatever.
tim pool
I think I'm just gonna, you know, probably maybe in July just start digging a big hole.
lisa reynolds
And put your money in the backyard?
tim pool
No, and building a bunker underground where I can seal it away with 35 years worth of food to get ready for what's coming in November.
Probably January, actually, not November.
james klug
If Donald Trump wins, there will be riots day one.
Well, in 2017, there was riots during his inauguration.
lisa reynolds
Yeah, me and my mom couldn't get in.
tim pool
Understatement.
You can't have millions of people flooding the country.
Democrats breaking every law.
There's no rule of law in this country at all.
And then expect either party to win in November and it to be peaceful.
phil labonte
I imagine that the population is not going to respond the same to riots now as they would or as they did, you know, a couple of years ago, because I think I feel like the American people are over it.
And if some people, I think generally, again, the my friends in L.A.
or they're like, look, we just want things to be back to normal.
And if if Trump wins and people start tearing the country apart and there are big riots, I do think, of course, it's not going to be the committed leftists.
They're going to be the ones doing the tearing apart.
But the average person, the default Democrat, the normal guy is going to be like, I am fed up with this horse.
lisa reynolds
They're not going to do anything about it.
phil labonte
Well, no, hold on.
The problem is, historically, what has gone on is you get communists and you get progressives and they start making a mess out of your society and the responses, the reactionaries, get fed up with it and they say, bring the boot down on these assholes and everybody loses freedom.
Because the only way to take care of authoritarians, people that initiate violence and think that by any means necessary is acceptable, the only way to deal with them is with force.
You must be violent.
lisa reynolds
As we discussed earlier in the show, the police are on the crazy people's side, and the judicial system is on the crazy people's side.
So even if you have a bunch of people that are like, I am sick of this, these normies that are sick of it, Well, it's going to happen.
Nothing's going to happen.
james klug
If I'm being totally honest, I think a lot of the normies left.
I mean, you talk about, like, Portland.
There's barely any conservatives in Portland anymore.
So many people left.
You can talk about L.A.
You can talk about all other cities around the country where people were rioting.
But something funny to Phil's point, actually, talking about, like, essentially the return to normalcy.
Honestly, I think we're at the point where Republicans should actually just grab onto that catchphrase, which was being used by the Democrats in 2019.
Sorry, 2020, my bad.
Because things are so out of control right now, you can easily just pull the, we need to return to normalcy.
Go back to the Trump era politics because it was much more normal than this.
serge du preez
Yeah, that's something I was gonna say to mention to what Phil was saying.
When I tell my friends in music in LA, like, do you remember 2018?
It just like, it's like a hard, like, rejection from the Matrix.
Whoa, I had so much money in 2018, and I'm like, everything was great then.
It's wild.
People just don't think about it like that, though.
You're right.
I see what Lisa's saying.
They don't think about it being like the Democrats, but people are being right-fueled.
They're being ejected forcefully.
When you tell them that, they're like, wow.
I did have a lot of money.
Yeah, it's just a shock, you know?
james klug
No, totally.
unidentified
100%.
james klug
I'm being totally serious when it comes to return to normalcy.
Two less wars, the border wasn't wide open for some reason.
lisa reynolds
No new wars.
Zero.
james klug
Right, right.
No new wars, actually.
We also had, I think Democrats were a lot less advocating for, you know, I don't know if I can say this, sex changes for...
For kids?
For kids, yeah.
So that was a lot less popular at the time too, so perhaps that could be looked at as a return to normalcy.
phil labonte
There are a handful of things that the average person has said, what in the hell?
First of all, the inflation, the LGBT stuff that's been going on, the average person is like, wait a minute, shit is getting real crazy.
lisa reynolds
And that's really in every school now.
I was in a, my daughter just had a basketball game the other night, and it was a K through 5th grade, and there's trans flags up there, this is a safe zone, a poster from the ADL, and this is just like a nice normal- Where are the Republicans to counter any of it?
I don't know what they're doing.
I started making a scene there and one of the other parents was like, please chill out.
And I was like, I'd like to rip that off the wall.
james klug
Well, it's talking about sexuality with children and the trans one is a lot more than that too.
lisa reynolds
Kindergarten through fifth grade, it was an elementary school outside of Philadelphia.
tim pool
This is why I say, like, the Republicans, every Republican right now should be trying to pass a bill for the Department of Gun Services to mandate the government pay for and distribute guns to all 16 year olds.
There's no counter position to anything the left does.
They should be, the right should be arguing that anyone who uses preferred pronouns should be banned from social media.
But the right is arguing the moderate position on everything.
That's what I was saying earlier about the right just playing to the narrative of the left.
The left will say, it's unfair that you're not using our pronouns, and the right will say, we don't think people should be forced to do anything, and say, well, it's compromise.
How about we just have some pronouns are protected?
And then the right is like, okay.
The left says, we want to ban all guns.
The right goes, no, no, you shouldn't ban guns.
And they go, how about some guns?
Fine.
The Democrats will go to the Republicans and say, I'll tell you what, you want your funding bill passed?
Agree with me on banning this one gun.
And it's just one.
And it's popular.
People don't like this one gun.
They go, okay, fine.
And they keep giving the Democrats compromise.
The Democrats never give back.
And the Democrats go on TV and claim the Republicans are extremists.
It's remarkable, isn't it?
james klug
No, you're totally spot on about that.
I mean, when it comes to the actual, you know, their extreme push to push whatever ideology they're trying to implement needs an extreme rejection.
tim pool
An equal and opposite reaction.
james klug
Right.
tim pool
So when they say, ban people for not using the right pronoun, we say, ban people for using the wrong pronoun.
You want to compromise?
Okay, don't ban anybody.
That's the compromise.
lisa reynolds
Yeah, but then it gets, because they own the media, then it gets tricky.
Think about abortion.
Like, okay, lock up any woman or doctor that gets an abortion or creates one, right?
And then that gets... So what?
I'm just saying.
I would like that.
tim pool
What about your moral position do you think people wouldn't agree with?
lisa reynolds
Well, that most people don't agree with locking the woman up for actually getting it.
I don't know why they don't.
I do.
tim pool
Maybe it's because no one's ever made the argument to them.
phil labonte
I think the reason that they don't agree with it is because they visualize themselves being locked up, regardless of whether they're going to get pregnant or whatever.
The reason that they reject it is because they visualize themselves.
tim pool
I think the issue is conservatives, at least as long as I've been alive, the right, they never want to actually argue their position.
They want to argue what they think is popular.
to try and do that. And they go, but it's about winning. In order to win, we have to agree with
the left and then inch our way backwards while the media completely misconstrues and then calls
our modern position extremist. It's like, okay, dude, look, if you think abortion should be
completely illegal across the board entirely in the country, and you don't ever argue that
position, Americans will never hear that position.
And what happens is conservatives then go, we can't take the position, it's too extreme, so let's just tell people that we think there should be some restrictions.
Then they come out and they go, we think there should be some restrictions.
And the New York Times goes, far-right extremist.
And they turn the moderate position into the extreme position because the right is unwilling to actually argue their true moral position.
lisa reynolds
But no matter what they're going to do, they're going to call you an extremist anyway, so you might as well just say exactly what you believe, which I think is fine.
But But it's still like a lot of this stuff doesn't resonate with the average soccer mom.
So I'll put it this way.
tim pool
If you think you have an unpopular position, then just accept that you've lost.
My view is, for my beliefs, I think I have to argue and convince people that I am correct.
And if there is something that I'm completely wrong about, I will continue to argue for why I think I'm right.
I don't see a point in being like, Well, it's strange to me that there are people who think, I have this position, I know it's true, I know it's correct, but I won't argue it because no one will agree with me.
lisa reynolds
I mean, Trump just said that.
That's why I wrote that example up.
Trump just said, you know, I think that abortion is murder.
You have to have the three exceptions.
I'm going to release a plan in a couple days.
I think this was yesterday that he said this.
james klug
probably just doing the 15 week essentially is most of what MAGA is getting behind.
lisa reynolds
But he said he's like I believe that it's murder that life begins at conception but you know
you gotta like give a little and that's basically what he's doing is to he that's exactly what
Trump's doing putting out like this new plan that's gonna have some some x number of weeks.
james klug
What about the strategy of going inch by inch though? What about the strategy of going inch by inch?
tim pool
You're not going inch by inch.
We're going inch by inch to the left because what's happening is Democrats say ban all guns.
They came out and they said ban all semi-automatic weapons.
And it was like 2018, I went to the March for Life and there were people holding up signs saying ban assault weapons.
I'm sorry, ban assault rifles.
And so I was like, hey, can I talk to you about your sign?
And then they're like, sure.
And I was like, so why do you want to ban assault rifles?
And they said things like, no one should be allowed to get a gun and go, and I was like, well, that's actually already illegal.
And they were like, it is.
And I was like, I had one lady fold up her sign.
He goes, Oh, I didn't know that.
And I was like, yeah, assault rifles, like fully automatic, those are illegal.
But was there something else?
They had a bill that would ban all semi-automatic weapons.
It didn't go through.
The Democrats are quite literally coming out saying, ban all, all guns.
The only thing that would be available is like five round revolvers after this one bill they tried passing.
And the Republicans are saying, no, wait, don't.
There's no counterpoint from Republicans as to what they actually believe gun laws should be.
phil labonte
The counterpoint from Republicans should just be, okay, well look... Repeal the NFA.
Yeah, we need to repeal the NFA, we need to repeal the Hughes Amendment to the 1986 Sportsman Law, make machine guns legal again for the average person.
There were machine guns being sold from the Sears catalog, mail order, and it was sent right to your door.
lisa reynolds
You could go into position, like ban the ATF.
Get rid of the ATF.
james klug
Really quick.
I think for actually effective policy and to actually have effective change, you need to have both those positions.
People that are taking the hard two-way stance of, you know, whatever you want to say.
And then there's also the inch-by-inch.
You mentioned that the ban of assault weapons, that's wildly unpopular because it's kind of a really big step.
That's why Democrats, what is more effective for them is the little-by-little, but they also have Anything the right should do.
What inch by inch would I say?
tim pool
Constitutional carry?
james klug
There's been a lot of victories for the Second Amendment in the last few years, just with federal judges alone.
phil labonte
You would consider constitutional carry inch by inch?
james klug
Taking things back, yeah.
phil labonte
But you would consider that inch by inch?
Because it's my opinion, and I think that if you talk to your average Democrat, it's my opinion that that isn't inch by inch.
That's a significant win.
If you can go from having to ask permission To being able to just go into the store, buy the gun, you obviously have to do the NICS check because that's federal, but if you can just go and buy the gun and walk around with it concealed, that's a big win.
I think the average person thinks that that doesn't happen.
james klug
What about a magazine capacity?
Do you consider that a big win as well?
I would too, but I could also consider that an inch by inch.
phil labonte
The thing is, when it comes to magazine capacity, there's only six or seven states where that matters.
My point is, no, there's only six or seven states where that matters.
The new, if the gun control, gun control stuff needs to be, the gun control stuff
is, is straight up second amendment stuff.
It should be as big as you can go all the time.
unidentified
The FPC has the right policy.
james klug
Do both.
You need people that are going big and people that are going small.
tim pool
And winning inch by inch only comes from going big, period.
unidentified
Correct.
tim pool
Because if the Democrats come out and say, ban all semi-autos, and you say, no, don't, they'll say, compromise, we'll ban these ones, they're dangerous, and that's the middle ground.
Instead we should say, Unban all guns!
And they'll say, no, ban all guns.
How about a middle ground?
We leave it where it is.
We ban nothing.
lisa reynolds
It's the same thing that happened with AOC and the Green New Deal.
Everybody thought she was crazy, even the Democrats, when she started introducing it.
And now she got it into the national narrative.
And now everybody talks about the Green New Deal.
phil labonte
Get rid of explosive devices as a concept.
Get rid of destructive devices as a concept.
That means that you can have hand grenades.
lisa reynolds
You should have hand grenades.
I think that should be fine.
phil labonte
But the ATF needs to go get rid of it entirely.
You want to buy something?
There are plenty of laws for if you blow up your neighbor's house, you go to jail forever.
tim pool
When the Democrats came out and said abolish the police, the Republicans should have said, as long as you're including the ATF, the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, etc., then they would have been like, well, wait.
Well, we don't want to do that.
I mean, could you imagine if when all the Democrats were 100% on board with abolish the police, Republicans said, agreed, all in favor, then the bill would not be police, it would be like all law enforcement.
james klug
Right.
lisa reynolds
As long as they're federalized, they're happy.
That's why they don't mind the National Guard being in the subways in New York, but they wanted the local cops out.
They want anything that's federal.
tim pool
That would have been actually very... Man.
See, this is the problem with the Republican Party.
When the Democratic activists came out and said to fund the police, the Democrat politicians denied it was happening.
Republicans should have 100% got on board and said, yes, we agree.
lisa reynolds
Yeah, get rid of everybody.
tim pool
Because then it would have created a weird contradiction where the left progressive activists were demanding a thing Republicans were agreeing with, and the Democratic politicians would be like, uh-oh.
Force the Democrats to come out and one-up the Republicans and say, we're gonna abolish the ATF and the FBI.
Oh, there we go.
james klug
No, I mean, it's certainly true that the group that's pushing harder and more radical is going to get, you know, somewhere there, somewhere... Concessions!
Closer to what they actually want, right?
Yeah, as for defund the police, I mean, I almost feel like the Democrats are at a point where years would pass and they would have this sort of revisionist history to where they'd be like, oh, it was actually all the Republicans' idea.
It's already happened!
Right, exactly, that's what I'm saying.
They would never admit that they had anything to do with a bad idea a few years ago.
tim pool
This is the issue that I see.
I said the other night, and I've said it several times, that I blame Christians for where we are today because they're too tolerant.
Because they're accepting.
And when we started to get a rise in degeneracy, and what we can only describe as atypical behaviors, Good Christian said be kind and let's be nice to these people and give them a little bit of what they're asking for.
And these people are extremist psychopath communists who chipped away at the bloc until there's very little left and the same thing happens today.
We continually give the screaming, petulant child what they want.
Eventually, you get a screaming, petulant adult who is violent and destructive.
phil labonte
It is the politics of pacify the noisiest group.
Yep.
That's the way that our system works now.
tim pool
The issue now is, why is it that the average American would oppose locking up a woman for getting an abortion along with the doctor?
If the moral position of Christians is that it is murder, the woman is choosing to engage in that murder.
And let's say there are exceptions to this law.
There are reasonable exceptions.
Why would the average person... Here's what happens.
The extremists will advocate for the most extreme position.
Abortion at the point of birth.
And the moderates go, well, I don't think the woman should go to jail.
And what do you get?
You move in the direction of abortion at the point of birth.
That's where we're at now in numerous states.
Colorado, for instance.
Abortion at the point of birth.
lisa reynolds
Bill, admit it, though, I just was on Twitter the other day and there's women, like, literally in this Twitter feed celebrating, like, killing their babies, like, over and over again.
And the Democrats say that doesn't happen, people don't use it as birth control, but they're bragging about them.
They're so proud and happy and, like, it's...
phil labonte
It's absolutely disturbing.
Before Roe was overturned, I had a conversation with a pro-choice, a very, very pro-choice woman.
And I was like, look, the average conservative hears you talking about the, you know, the way you talk about abortion, hears people like, uh, what was her name?
Michelle Wolf and the shout your abortion.
The average conservative hears that and first of all they think, this is not what we signed up for.
This is not what we thought abortion was going to be.
We were okay with safe, legal, and rare.
You're shouting your abortion.
You're shouting a party.
You're literally celebrating death.
That makes you a fucking ghoul.
Like, you are absolutely a monster.
I was like...
You're never going to convince people that look at you and see an actual monster that you are in the right.
You're never going to.
And I told her, you're going to lose Roe because of this.
And it's happened because of the way that people have behaved about it.
Because kill the baby as its head comes out, we'll just smush it.
lisa reynolds
But Tim was right, the Christians happen.
Like if you go around any other church, maybe besides some Baptist and some Catholic church, there's like Episcopalian and all that.
There's trans flags out there and pro-choice things, and they're basically fake churches at this point, right?
And so they've bought into this whole topic.
There's like women preachers that are like doing all kinds of crazy things.
But I will say that lately, And I don't know if it's just because I'm into Christian Twitter or whatever, but I've been feeling a resurgence of Christianity big time.
I don't know if it's just me.
james klug
I think they saw what they screwed up on from the 80s, 90s, early 2000s.
I think a lot of them have woken up to, uh-oh, we didn't push back at this.
And now for some reason we're actually debating sex changes for children.
That's how far we've allowed it to go.
lisa reynolds
And they're getting louder, and they have more righteous anger, and they're spreading it, and I'm here for it.
Like, I appreciate it.
I definitely see a shift, though.
tim pool
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We need networks of people who are artists, who are creatives, who are mechanics, who are engineers.
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What is it with Mr. Bocas?
Every cent donated to the feline charity Timpix for Alec Stein's Blend, so customers can choose to donate more.
Rip Bocas.
Wow, very cool.
lisa reynolds
Aw, sweet.
james klug
Awesome.
phil labonte
All right.
tim pool
What do we have here?
The Authentic Hydro says, Evening folks, my wife and I went to the hospital this morning and now have a new addition to the family.
Please welcome baby Matias to the world.
unidentified
Welcome!
Wow, congrats.
james klug
That's amazing.
tim pool
There are great challenges before you, but maybe you'll save the world.
lisa reynolds
Have six more.
unidentified
Six.
james klug
I think that's right.
Yeah, seven maybe.
Six seems a little bit low.
tim pool
Just keep, just cranking them out.
Irish twins.
Every nine months, get back to it.
Ladies, come on.
Hard work.
phil labonte
All right.
tim pool
This is not the account you're looking for, says the new shirt only come in bloodbath red.
They say it's a great test color, not just everyone agrees.
Yeah, so we made the Obama hope picture, but it's Trump saying bloodbath.
phil labonte
It's so good.
tim pool
You love it?
james klug
It's amazing.
tim pool
He's referring to an economic crisis.
And the media is like screaming and bashing their heads in the wall.
These people are just nuts.
Alright, alright, alright.
Rob says Republicans need to put forth a bill that diverts all foreign aid and money to criminal immigrants to border security and universal health care.
It will fail and the Dems will have to explain why they killed it.
That's a good idea, actually.
Universal health care.
lisa reynolds
Oh, marry them together.
I get what they're saying.
tim pool
So that the Democrats have to shoot down Universal Health Care.
Max Reddick says, Tim, can we please get Destiny back on the culture war?
Great conversation to have about J6 and Biden family corruption, especially because he's wrong.
Yeah, but I feel like we've debated that with him and he's debated that like 300 times.
So I'd much rather have a more current conversation or something.
lisa reynolds
I feel bad abusing him, too, because he's constantly, like, everybody's debating that he's, like, the only one that shows up for the left, you know?
It's like, can you come on every month?
phil labonte
It's fine, it's fine.
lisa reynolds
I know, I know, I know.
tim pool
Zane Thomas says, it's Ramadan, don't forget to eat some bacon, or if you're Muslim, you don't eat until what, sundown?
unidentified
Let's go!
lisa reynolds
I'm with that person.
I like that person.
tim pool
Well, look, as a non-Muslim, I will eat bacon whenever I so choose.
But I got no issue with people who practice Ramadan and don't want to eat bacon.
I got no beef with Christians who don't eat meat on Fridays.
Like, hey man, it's supposed to be about, like, don't hurt other people.
The problem is now the left ideology is imposed on other people.
Hey man, you go off and you don't eat meat, I'm not going to yell at you if you're vegan.
I don't care.
I'm going to eat what I want to eat.
I got people telling me that sugar is the devil now that I started eating carbs again with my personal trainer.
And I'm just like, yeah, you know, you're entitled to that view.
I got no beef.
I got a personal trainer.
I'm going to do what he says.
If it doesn't work, then I'll stop.
But I'm, I don't know, I kind of feel like these people have been doing this since the dawn of time, so probably it's going to work.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Fair.
Yeah.
But I've been eating a lot of rice.
It's like, the difficult thing in getting your macros, that I've found, is everything's got fat in it.
So if you just need sugar, or you just need protein, there's fat in it.
But rice flour is pure carbs and literally nothing else.
james klug
Are you doing meal prepping?
tim pool
No, but I have an app that tracks macros, so you put it in.
I didn't realize how much rice you have to eat.
I ate an insane amount of rice there.
phil labonte
You have to eat a lot of everything.
james klug
Especially when you're working out, when you start working out, you eat double what you were doing before too.
tim pool
I'm eating more than I've ever eaten in my life.
It's kind of great.
james klug
I'm alive.
tim pool
It's awesome.
I was like, after I finished dinner, I was like, I have to get dessert.
That's crazy.
Before it was like, no, no, I shouldn't do dessert.
I'm trying to be healthy and everything.
Now it's like we're doing, I'm doing like an hour Tuesday, Wednesdays and Thursdays.
And so today we did a good amount of like lifting and squats and stuff like that.
And I'm also skating in between.
So I'm getting like double leg time.
And so I'm like one day, I think I burned 4,000, like last week it was like 4,000 calories in one day.
And I only ate 2,100 as per, because that's supposed to be caloric deficit, like it's build muscle, lower body fat percentage.
And so we go out to eat and I finished my meal and I look and I had, I was still short carbs and I was still short fat.
So I was like, okay, what can I order?
Chocolate covered strawberries, let's go!
Extra whipped cream, gotta get it in there.
phil labonte
Makes life better, you know.
serge du preez
Dude, Goku's right, man.
tim pool
Just gotta- Just gotta just jam it all in there.
serge du preez
Keep eating rice, keep eating rice.
tim pool
Let's grab some more.
Michael Pepper says, enjoy the shows and my girls and I enjoy your music.
unidentified
Thank you.
tim pool
That's great.
Thank you very much.
We got a new song we're working on.
It's gonna be sad.
phil labonte
The hook though.
Oh, the hook's good.
lisa reynolds
Nothing better than sad music, though.
Like, that's the best kind.
The sadder, the better.
So make a good sad one, Tim.
tim pool
We'll see.
We'll see.
It's hard to do, right?
All right, let's go.
What do we got here?
Mordred the Hero says, hi everyone.
I'm looking to become a full-time bladesmith and work for myself, give value to the world.
I hope to create heirloom quality products.
Follow up super chat to come.
Very cool.
james klug
That's amazing.
unidentified
That's great.
james klug
Yeah, super cool.
tim pool
Cody Justin says, massive power outage in rural western Arizona.
Oh, what's that all about?
One of the coolest drives I've ever been on was when I drove from California back to Chicago and I drove through Arizona and I don't know where I was but it was like a swamp and it was the creep, it was green and it was just like the road was elevated and there was a swamp to the left and the right and there was fog.
It was like driving through a horror movie.
It was awesome.
james klug
Spooky.
tim pool
Yeah.
I don't remember where it was but it was cool.
Department of Deprasure.
Ah, it says, did you see Planet Fitness took a nosedive today?
They dropped by what, like 7%?
lisa reynolds
My mom cancelled her membership.
Yep.
james klug
I'm sorry, what happened with Planet Fitness again?
lisa reynolds
They let that guy, like a man who wasn't even like passing, shave his beard and all, and there was like a 12-year-old girl in the bathroom, it was gross.
tim pool
The issue is with stories like this, we don't even know if it was a trans person or not a trans person.
What happens is, like with the Wii Spa, there was an actual man, not a trans person, exposing himself to little girls, and when the woman complained, they were like, well, we can't comment on gender identity.
And she's like, it's a man though!
unidentified
Had already been in trouble with the law as well before that.
tim pool
So when this happens at Planet Fitness, Planet Fitness immediately defaults to like, well, you know, trans people are like, no one said it was a trans person doing this.
It was a guy in the woman's bathroom.
lisa reynolds
They doubled down today.
They doubled down today and they said, they were like, we stand by our no judgment policy and whatever.
But this was like a man shaving his beard, like in the mirror.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, ladies, women voted for this.
lisa reynolds
I did not.
I did not.
tim pool
You did, but women in general do.
james klug
We have to return to normalcy.
tim pool
Alright, let's go.
lisa reynolds
Gonna keep that slogan.
tim pool
Jacob Thompson says, I'm going to say this.
An unpopular opinion, one of the reasons we are having people willing to do anything for their jobs is that they are living with debt.
As someone who has never had a credit card or credit score for the 33 years of my life, free your monthly income.
I don't think the issue is debt, because a lot of people really just don't pay their debt.
I think the issue is when people have kids.
Look, the far left has no children.
They rarely have kids, so they have nothing.
They can sacrifice everything.
The people on the right have kids, and they cannot sacrifice their lives for a political cause, because their kids need to survive.
What ends up happening then is a leftist will say, I don't care if I go to jail.
What does it matter?
I have nothing else to live for.
A person on the right says, I can't go to jail.
I have kids.
They need me.
I have to feed them.
Yep.
So when it comes to the police or comes to any job, they say, I will do whatever you say to protect my kids, even if it's evil.
And the far left takes the jobs, forces the political pressure, and that ends up commanding the police to do evil things.
lisa reynolds
The most dangerous people in the world are people that have nothing to lose.
Always.
phil labonte
100%.
Right.
tim pool
Idle hands are the devil's playground.
Let's go!
Jason Dixon says, I bet that woman voted for the people who wrote the laws and support her being arrested and will still vote for them.
You know, I don't, I don't disagree.
The lady, the homeowner who got arrested?
lisa reynolds
I wish somebody would ask her.
james klug
I'm, I'm really curious because, you know, yeah, I don't know.
tim pool
And what they should ask is, ma'am, I'm curious, as you're being arrested, did you vote Democrat because we're trying to figure out if we should laugh at you or try and laugh at you?
james klug
I'm being totally honest.
I mean, yes, I think that's kind of the case.
It's like, did you, did you ask for this or are you just kind of caught in the crossfire?
lisa reynolds
If she voted Democrat, I would laugh at her.
And if she didn't, I'd start like a GoFundMe to help her with her legal costs.
tim pool
If she voted for Democrat, I wouldn't laugh at her.
I'd say, ma'am, please, please don't vote Democrat again, because look what they're doing to you.
Will you please consider voting for Donald Trump?
And then she might say yes.
james klug
Lisa would still laugh at her.
tim pool
But this was the Milo problem.
Milo was ragging on people for being overweight, and then took a picture of a fat guy in a gym and made fun of him.
And I'm like, now that guy's gonna be like, I can't go anywhere without being attacked.
lisa reynolds
Okay, but there's no reason to be unnecessarily cruel, but actually telling people that they're fat, like, people say to me, we do Twitter spaces all the time.
phil labonte
Never in the gym, though.
lisa reynolds
Okay, fine, not in the gym.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
lisa reynolds
Not in the gym, but I do Twitter spaces all the time, and people will say to me, like, Lise, I went on a diet because I don't want you to call me fat because everybody knows I don't like fat people that much.
tim pool
No matter.
As I say, it's no matter what.
Anyone you see in the gym, it's always looking good.
phil labonte
Yep.
lisa reynolds
No, yeah, you want to encourage people that are trying.
You always, like, listen, if somebody's in there trying, you want to give them encouragement, like, yeah, you know, good for you, all of that.
I'm not saying you have to be unnecessarily mean.
However, there is a component of shaming that works, that's effective.
I know.
tim pool
Yeah, but not in secret ballots.
lisa reynolds
Okay, that's true.
But, like, in real life, you can, like, you were saying the Milo problem.
Milo was, like, unnecessarily cruel about it, but you can say, Nobody wants to see you naked.
Like, you can say that.
james klug
It's just healthy criticism and being honest with people.
That's really all that is, what you're talking about there.
tim pool
I'm talking about a lady who has no idea what's going on politically is now having her home taken away from her, and she votes Democrat, and now's the open door where you can say, But this is what Democrats were proposing the whole time.
Look, if you want to get your house back, you're going to need to get a Republican in there who's going to try and stop these people.
And then she's going to say, OK.
james klug
And by the way, not just her, but that'll break a cycle with potentially her friends around her, maybe her kids, maybe whatever else it may be.
So there's a lot of opportunity there for sure.
lisa reynolds
But then they'll say, orange man bad, and he's gonna like, you know... And my response would be, well, that may be, but... That's when you laugh.
tim pool
I'll take your house.
Like, if you think Trump is so bad that I deserve to take your house from you and you lose it, then don't vote for Trump.
No matter how bad you think he is, at least he'll try and get you your house back.
lisa reynolds
I think Trump derangement syndrome is so real.
It's everywhere.
tim pool
Look, it's New York.
And if they say, yeah, but Trump's bad and be like, well, look, honestly, don't vote for Trump, but just stop voting for the Democrats in New York.
These are the people that voted to take your house.
They're the ones who passed the laws to say your house would be given away.
Look at any other candidate who's running and vote for them instead, because you've got moderate Republicans in New York.
james klug
I think a lot of Democrats, too, they don't know that it is their fault.
A lot of them, if they're just, let's say, a fairly apolitical person that is maybe just, yeah, Yeah, sure, I lean left.
Yeah, I'm a Democrat.
Yeah, my friends are Democrats.
Maybe they don't know because a lot of this stuff is pretty disconnected.
They don't know that a lot of the crime in these communities is just out of control because they're D.A.
They don't know, like, you know, their D.A.
is allowing a bunch of criminals back on the street.
Like, I think a lot of them are very disconnected from the cause of these problems.
And so maybe, yeah, she could be a Democrat, but she has absolutely no clue that it's Democrats that want this.
serge du preez
Yeah, it's crazy actually.
Like in L.A., I hear people say, oh, the Republicans are causing all this problem.
Like, what Republicans?
james klug
Where?
tim pool
There's none!
serge du preez
Seriously, in California?
james klug
I'm in Orange County, like, are you talking about me?
unidentified
Like, what are you talking about?
tim pool
No joke.
phil labonte
You're from Orange County?
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
That's literally my buddy.
My buddy lives in Lakewood, and he's like, yo, I tell you what, I see all the MAGA guys down in Orange County, and they're the I'm like, really dude?
There's a bag of people here in California?
He's like, I swear to God.
I'm like, all right.
serge du preez
They're the ones running LA County?
Really?
tim pool
Jason Dixon says, didn't you vote for Democrats, Tim?
This them.
Yeah.
In 2008, 16 years ago, I voted for Democrats.
james klug
Tim, what were you thinking?
tim pool
And that was in Chicago.
And then after Obama blew up a bunch of kids, I was like, wow, I'm never voting again.
And it was, I think it was, I didn't vote again until 2020, I think.
When I voted Republican all the way down the board in New Jersey.
lisa reynolds
Can you believe 2008 was 16 years ago?
Wow, it does not seem that long.
I'm getting old.
That's really scary when you say it like that.
james klug
Was 2008 the Romney year?
Was that Romney?
phil labonte
No, it was McCain and Ron Paul and Barack Obama.
james klug
Good memory.
tim pool
I love these attempts at manipulating the conversation to trick- we got a Fed in the chat.
The Douche Nugget, aka a Fed, says, So if playing by the rules doesn't work, why do you keep insisting we try to play by the rules to effect change?
You don't even have to call for anything, just gotta stop lying about peace being an option and say nothing.
I feel like these are always, like, Blackpill, Blackpill.
There's no option.
You can't actually win.
And then, like, Public Square announces, like, a thousand percent increase in revenue generation over the past year.
So we're clearly winning culturally.
Disney loses a billion dollars.
Tyson Foods facing a boycott.
Bud Light's facing a boycott.
Lost forty billion dollars, thirty in market value and ten in sales.
Target lost a bunch of money.
We're getting tremendous strides.
It's just, it's frustrating.
We're in conflict with people who are evil and breaking the rules, and we are saying, here's a solution.
Build Public Square.
Build networks.
It's working.
We're winning.
The people who say, like, these Blackpill messages, even if, I'll put it this way, even if it's hopeless, the worst possible thing in the world is demoralization.
It's like, Convincing everybody to give up before they even tried, and we don't even know what the status is.
We have until November to figure things out, and Trump is currently ahead in most of the polls.
unidentified
1.7.
james klug
I think, like, every single one right now, almost.
For the swing states, for sure.
tim pool
Yeah, swing states, absolutely.
And that's all that matters, but Trump's up 1.7 nationally.
The general, generic ballot, is Republican-leaning.
We must pay attention to what the Democrats are doing.
We must counter it.
And we've effectively done that with Texas winning this border battle with the bloodbath narrative that was destroyed and it's become a joke.
Fake news was made up by the press to insult Trump.
Trump took that and turned them into the fake news.
And they immediately were like, no, no, don't call us that.
Now we're turning Bloodbath into a hilarious meme and criticizing Joe Biden, and they're doubling down desperate.
They are losing narrative control.
So it's not so much about the rules.
What I'm saying is, These people think, I'm going to be honest, and everything will work out.
And then the Democrats launch a shadow campaign.
The rules are, the shadow campaign was always allowed.
Ballot harvesting was always allowed.
Numerous states, most states, it is legal to ballot harvest.
Republicans are just like, well, we are honest, so we won't do that.
And then Democrats were like, we're going to enact universal mail-in voting, then we're going to go out and ballot harvest, and then we're going to win.
Republicans were like, well, that would be dishonorable.
That's the problem.
The rules say ballot harvesting is okay.
Republicans chose not to do it.
phil labonte
Dumb.
unidentified
Yep.
phil labonte
If you don't take every option or if you don't exploit every option that you have to collect votes, you're not serious about winning.
james klug
You're totally right.
And you have to play by the same game and the same set of rules that your opponent is if you're going to beat them.
unidentified
Yep.
phil labonte
Let's go!
tim pool
What do we have here?
Jacob Hawley says, Hey Tim, I went to a play in Milwaukee.
What the Constitution means to me, the crowd debated, or argued from a classical liberal centrist position, and the lady in the crowd yelled, Republicans and people like you need to be eradicated.
Holy cow.
phil labonte
I tell you what, man.
Comments like that make me laugh.
james klug
What is that like?
Hey, let's uh, let's check in on how the far left is doing today.
unidentified
Oh my God!
tim pool
All right, Paps McGee says, hey Tim, today's my birthday.
Here in Arizona, I was gifted the best birthday present ever.
I got to vote today.
DJTMAGA best birthday present ever.
Love the show and keep kicking ass.
unidentified
Let's go.
tim pool
You know what I was thinking?
lisa reynolds
Show back.
james klug
That's awesome.
What a legend.
tim pool
I was thinking about what Trump represents, and he really does represent a lot of the core ideals of the left of my youth.
No new wars, protect the American workers, And I'm thinking about, like, when I was growing up, when I was a teenager, what was everyone complaining about?
The wars?
We shouldn't be there.
We should be withdrawing.
We should not be involved in this military policing around the world.
There should be peace.
We should be protecting our country and focusing on our problems.
We should be protecting the auto industry.
We should be, like, Michael Moore had that, his first documentary, I think, was with the auto industry.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And then Trump comes along and he represents all of that.
And I'm like, yeah, you know, and other things for sure, but he really hits the nail on the head.
And boy, does the modern left hate him.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's kind of fascinating.
A lot of hypocrites do, too.
Let's go!
JF2 says, last year found cancer and went through a year of surgery and radiation.
On St.
Paddy's Day, a year to the day was on my first surgery, my wife's pregnancy test came back positive.
We're both elated.
Well, congratulations.
Bed, what is this, uh, Betorn says it's not squatting, it's breaking and entering, and a burglary in progress followed by extortion.
lisa reynolds
Exactly!
That's exactly what it is!
I don't understand!
james klug
Well said.
lisa reynolds
Correct!
phil labonte
You need to have your society care about property rights.
Badly.
tim pool
It really though is, what are the rules of the game today?
The rules are not, I have a house and this man should not be in it.
That's not the rules.
The rules have been set, you can read them.
The rules now are, if that lady, I don't recommend people do this, I'm just saying, if that lady got her daughter a lease, And then when that guy showed the cop the bill saying, see, I paid the bill, then the daughter could say, yeah, because he's the manager, he pays to fix things.
And then he kicked me out.
lisa reynolds
But even before that, you should be able to beat that person up, drag them by their hair outside the front door and kick them on their way out.
and that should be legal.
tim pool
A burglar who is breaking into your home, in most states, you are legally allowed to defend yourself
because they entered your property, especially Maryland, which we describe
as one of the evil seven in terms of self-defense laws.
In Maryland, if someone illegally enters your home, you are allowed to use lethal force against them.
And Maryland is not a good state.
Now, I personally don't like the idea of using force against people,
but I certainly don't recommend you just let someone break into your house and kill you.
james klug
Yeah, you have to allow something.
I mean, for God's sakes, these people know those rules.
tim pool
That's why they're there.
That being said, call the police if you can, and in the instance of places like New York, you need to know the law beforehand and call the police because they have laws pertaining to these things.
But my point always is, If you go into your house and there are strangers there, why would you call the police and say, there are strange men living in my home, instead of just saying someone broke into my home?
lisa reynolds
Because probably most women are afraid of that.
I'm telling you, get the protein shake stink bomb recipe and throw that in there.
phil labonte
Get regular stink bomb.
That'll stink for two weeks.
Get regular stink bomb.
tim pool
I would say, call your lawyer first thing, first and foremost, before doing literally anything, and don't listen to Lisa.
phil labonte
Oops.
tim pool
All right.
unidentified
I agree.
tim pool
Let's read some more Super Chats.
I don't know about that, but thank you.
Yes, I've read quite a bit of it, but it's a lot, man.
There's so much to read these days.
talked about a while back. God bless you, sir. Serge is the goat.
serge du preez
I don't know about that, but thank you. Yes, I've read quite a bit of it, but it's a lot,
man. There's so much to read these days. But yeah, thanks, bro.
tim pool
Gail Regulus says Connecticut requires a squatter to live there for 15 uninterrupted years in
order to make a claim to the property.
Connecticut has a very low amount of illegals living there.
West Virginia is the same.
15 years of uninterrupted residency to claim adverse possession.
And I actually think 15 years is a good number.
That's the right amount of time.
lisa reynolds
Wait a second.
That's for you to own it, though, because I looked this up the other day.
New York is three years.
I think New York and California is three years for that adverse possession.
However, I don't know if everybody's the same on being able to go to court.
Those numbers differ.
james klug
Like what the statute of limitations is on that.
lisa reynolds
Yeah, that's to own the house and then for it to be yours, that adverse possession, and it be yours and you can get a deed to it.
Like a quiet claim, Dean?
I think it's not a quick claim, quiet claim, right?
Anyway, not the point.
The point is, is that every, there is, like, where you can't kick them out, those are what is, like, kind of different per each state.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Axe Trooper says, Phil, I love your music.
Cheers.
This calling is my favorite song.
Thank you.
unidentified
Yes!
phil labonte
Cheers.
lisa reynolds
I've never heard your music.
phil labonte
Really?
lisa reynolds
I don't think so.
Not at least in years.
tim pool
We try to show her, but whenever we do, she plugs her ears and runs out of the room.
james klug
Do you like Taylor Swift?
It's kind of similar.
lisa reynolds
Yeah.
unidentified
Fine.
tim pool
Yeah, when, like, the way Phil talks is not how he sings.
He actually puts on this squeakier voice.
phil labonte
Very Mickey Mouse.
tim pool
Very Mickey Mouse.
lisa reynolds
On the long ride home, I listen.
james klug
Quick fun fact.
I actually had, um, I forgot, I told you this before, I forgot what song, but I had one of his songs as my ringtone when I was in, like, eighth grade.
phil labonte
I think it was This Calling you were talking about.
james klug
You think it was?
I'll remember.
lisa reynolds
Are you simping for Phil right in front of me?
james klug
Oh, I'm a fan of Phil.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
All right.
tim pool
Audrey says, Tim, did you see Gutfeld last night?
Comedian Vince August shouted you and Joe Rogan out as outlets more and more people trust over corporate news.
I felt proud of that.
Wow.
Shout out to Vince August.
I did not see that.
We do the show and then I go to bed.
serge du preez
I forgot to mention that my mom actually messaged me and it was wrapped the show.
I just forgot to mention it.
tim pool
I actually watch The Five most days.
Greg Gutfeld's so good.
He's too good.
james klug
Super talented.
tim pool
And smart.
And he's following everything.
lisa reynolds
I refuse to turn them on.
I won't put Fox on ever.
james klug
Five is probably their best show.
tim pool
I don't care.
Jesse Waters and Greg Gutfeld are pretty good.
lisa reynolds
Jesse Waters got arrogant.
I don't know.
He changed.
tim pool
But then they have those two sort of liberal people on the show, which they argue with.
Yeah, but usually around five I'm eating is when I eat dinner and so I usually have the five on and it's usually Greg I felt great.
Yeah, he's a smart guy I usually find that like the things I talk about in the morning are similar to what he's talking about on the five Yeah, and so I guess guys know what's going on Yeah, also he's crushing in the ratings.
phil labonte
I like Dan Perino's dogs dog All right, Gandalf the Base says, Tim, my dad is a retired cop.
tim pool
Just went back into the force.
Used to train officers and tell them when to give, and when he gave them their badge, earn it.
Couldn't sit back and watch from retirement any longer.
Wow!
Well, I'm glad to hear it.
I think the people, the thing people don't understand is that We are four years past the point where we're all like, these poor cops are under attack, we must defend them, and then we saw 800 cops resign from this department, and 50 cops resign from this department, and the entire department of this town has resigned, and now we're hearing stories about really, really, really bad cops who are doing leftist things.
like siding with squatters, giving squatters advice, advising the squatters, and then warning
the homeowner in New York that if she takes any action on her own property in her own house,
she'll be arrested despite the fact this person was just pulled out by the cops for being unable
to prove he lived there. That's the craziest thing. Like, the cops come to your house and say,
this man broke in, he has no proof he lives here, but you better not do anything to your
property, otherwise we'll arrest you.
And then she does, and they go, okay, now you're under arrest.
Like, those are communists.
james klug
Yeah, I think the left is also, I mean, for a while they've gone after the leadership when it comes to police forces, the police chiefs, all that first.
They're finally getting around to actually getting, you know, their kind of obedient police officers in the police forces.
The military is actually seeing something similar as well right now.
tim pool
Let's grab a couple more before we get out of here.
OneEvilChef says, Obama's administration minted a $1 trillion coin to pay the Federal Reserve.
phil labonte
They didn't actually do that.
tim pool
This was to ceremoniously reduce the net- wasn't that a satire article?
phil labonte
Yeah, they didn't actually do it.
There were people that floated the idea of minting a $1 trillion coin and then you would, I guess, give it to the Federal Reserve or something like that.
I don't know exactly what- Meaningless.
Yeah, it was all a game, essentially.
But they did not actually mint the coin.
tim pool
Player PJ says, Tim, what's the square footage of 450 million, or are you saying 450 meters stacked to five feet in $100 bills?
$450 million stacked to five feet in $100 bills.
I have no idea.
Does anybody know?
lisa reynolds
Is there a follow up?
james klug
I think they're referring to what Trump is paying.
tim pool
Oh, right, right, right, yeah.
james klug
It's like drop off, like, $1 bills.
tim pool
Oh, right.
In $100 bills?
Yeah, do it in $1 bills.
Do it in pennies.
james klug
Right.
tim pool
We've got a bunch of garbage trucks full of pennies.
phil labonte
We're gonna bring them by.
james klug
It's like his buddy's garbage company.
He's talking about how great it is.
tim pool
Caleb James says Trump should find a close, trustworthy, and rich friend to sell Mar-a-Lago to for the $464 million, proving it was worth that much to begin with.
Then, when all this blows over, eventually he can buy it back.
Love the show, Tim.
Keep up the good work.
Except that would probably cost like $3 million in fees nobody wants to pay to all the different companies involved in the exchange.
And he would have to do it with a New York property that they claimed was devalued because the case wasn't over Mar-a-Lago.
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james klug
Yeah, well, thank you guys for having me, first and foremost.
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Thank you, guys.
phil labonte
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There you go.
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lisa reynolds
I like that.
You can find me at Lisa Elizabeth on Twitter.
Make sure you tune in on Friday mornings to The Culture War at 10 a.m.
We've got good guests.
There's a good debate coming up on Friday.
And then Nuance Pro and I started to play around with a little new YouTube channel.
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We'll see how it goes.
We got a couple videos up so far.
So tune into that too.
serge du preez
Right on.
Happy to have you, Lisa.
lisa reynolds
Thanks, Serge.
Happy to see you again.
serge du preez
Likewise.
And James, as well, I watch your YouTube.
It's great to watch.
It hits close to home, you know what I mean?
Appreciate it, Serge.
Yeah, of course.
And all you guys, hope you get on the Discord.
You can find it on TimCast.com.
Someone asked about it in the chat.
Yeah, they'll take care of you.
Cheers.
tim pool
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