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tim pool
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unidentified
Oh boy!
tim pool
Are you guys excited for this one?
Take a look at this from DC Drano.
The American Red Cross is now asking blood donors if they ever received the COVID vaccine.
If you answer yes, they want you to call ahead to see if you're still eligible.
Thought the vax was safe and effective.
What info are they hiding from us?
So I actually went to the Red Cross website on my phone, did the 79-78 questions, and went through the whole thing.
Yes, the question is real.
It is the last question.
And it absolutely does say, if you answer a yes, you should call to determine if you're still eligible.
Because there's criteria where the COVID vaccine will make you ineligible to transfer blood to another person.
We now have this.
Breaking news from the Hill.
Largest multi-country COVID study links vaccines to potential adverse effects.
phil labonte
This is the old.
tim pool
What the?
Whoop-de-frickin'-do, I guess.
You know what I mean?
So, what do you think the adverse effects are?
phil labonte
Blood clots.
tim pool
Myocarditis and Guillain-Barre.
phil labonte
What do you know?
Shocking!
The problems that everyone has been discussing for the better part of two and a half, three years now.
Now the powers that be are like, oh, hey, we just noticed something, guys.
ian crossland
Dude, all those people are like, a government told me to inject myself with a bunch of shit, and then they just did it.
What in the fucking fuck?
phil labonte
This is what I said to Casey Neistat.
That's not fair.
What the fuck?
You can't just be like, oh, government said, because like, they were coercing people, dude.
tim pool
It's worse than this.
Casey Neistat tweeted, go get vaccinated.
I responded with, no, go talk to your doctor.
He said, that's weird, I didn't go to my doctor, I just pulled up in a drive-thru, and I said, you pulled into a strange parking lot and let a strange man inject you with a foreign substance?
That's fucking insane!
ian crossland
There is a lot of people that were coerced, though, you're right, and I feel for those people, man.
Totally.
The rage they must be feeling right now.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, again, there's a lot of people that were coerced, and there's way more people that nothing is going to happen to, and they're not going to have any adverse effects on their lives.
Some people that are going to have adverse effects, and it sucks for those people, but like the people that went, got it, that got coerced into it, got it, and don't have adverse health effects, they're going to go about their day and going to be like, I don't understand why people are so upset.
Because their experience is everything was fine.
Now it's not to say it is for everyone, but they're still going to be like, I don't, you know, it doesn't bother me or whatever.
So you can't sit there and be like, Oh man, you should blah, blah, blah, blah, cause you're going to get people that are like, what are you talking about, man?
That's not like, that's not even close to what anyone I know experienced or whatever.
So I, the idea, like I understand having that perspective and I understand that there are people that are like that, but that is a, that is not the majority.
This is the CDC.
Yeah.
tim pool
This is a global COVID vaccine safety project supported by the Center for Disease Control and Prevention.
This is straight up U.S., DHS, and CDC fucking outright saying they have found increased risk of Guillain-Barre and myocarditis after vaccination.
After Zeneca was worse, people were getting convulsions.
unidentified
This is a bigger turning point than I think people give it credit for because you had a period of time where all of these people that were completely wrong Would never admit it.
They couldn't.
It was their reputation, it was their entire legacy, it was everything.
You know, for some of them it was profit, right?
But it was like they could never come out and admit that they were wrong to push so many people when it came to the jab.
phil labonte
They're not doing that now.
unidentified
But that's what I was going to say.
I think by the time that happens it'll be way too late for it to have any meaningful You know, there won't be any meaning to it when it happens.
phil labonte
I don't think it's ever gonna happen.
unidentified
Yeah, I'm saying, like, we're talking history books 20, 30, 40 years from now.
But I think it's funny how you're starting to see the little slip-ups, right?
Where, like, now they're like, crap, well, due to liability, we probably should at least admit, you know, I mean, when the American Red Cross is like, hey, if you've had the jab, we need to talk, give us a call.
That's a change in tone that we haven't seen.
tim pool
But I think the Red Cross has been doing this for a while.
So apparently the news about not giving blood is old, but people are just starting to notice.
The news that a CDC-supported group is definitively saying, yeah, the vaccine causes these problems.
Well, holy shit.
ian crossland
Are you saying they cause, or they're correlated?
tim pool
Increased risk.
I mean, they never say that.
They always say a significant increase in cases of Guillain-Barre, among those who received AstraZeneca.
ADAM, which is acute disseminated encephalomyelitis, inflammation of the brain and spinal cord from Moderna.
And both Pfizer and Moderna were associated with myocarditis and pericarditis.
And a significant observed to expected ratio after the first, second, and third doses.
unidentified
Wow!
ian crossland
I just don't know if it was... Yo, they're straight up saying die.
tim pool
When they're like, have you gotten your seventh vaccine yet?
It's like, okay, well that will kill you.
ian crossland
If this is like intentional, that they're like, let's just poison people so that there's less of them.
Or if they were really trying, somebody was really trying to help.
tim pool
Guys, you need to understand this.
It was liberals who were injecting themselves with the myocarditis formula.
unidentified
But then they shed spike proteins on their neighbors and shit.
ian crossland
I don't know about that.
I think they're spraying it on food too, mRNA.
unidentified
Look, man.
tim pool
You inject someone with a chemical, I doubt they start spraying it from their sweat glands.
ian crossland
I mean, maybe, but I'm not- I don't know, what's protein shedding?
tim pool
Is there- I don't know what's shedding.
If that were true, the protein shedding thing- Pissing it into the water supply and shit.
Then you would have people who are not vaccinated dying from the same thing as people who are vaccinated.
So I don't believe that.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's probably not as intense.
The shedding's not as intense.
tim pool
If there are people who are getting Guillain-Barre and myocarditis, and we know they're all vaccinated, and then the people who never got vaccinated are like, never happened to me, they're not shedding.
ian crossland
Or that the shedding's not as dangerous as it sounds.
tim pool
I like the conspiracy theory that, like, one in six of the vaccines were, like, lethal.
And that's why most people... I'm not saying it's true.
ian crossland
I can picture a group of dudes being like, let's kill them.
phil labonte
Let's kill as many as we can.
tim pool
It's the plot to, uh, to, uh, what's that show called?
Utopia.
The tech billionaire who thinks the world is overpopulated creates a fake pandemic so we can mass produce a vaccine and get it steamrolled through Congress without real approval, and it sterilizes people.
unidentified
There you go.
phil labonte
Awesome.
tim pool
Well, look, it's not that there's too many people, okay?
unidentified
It's that there's too many liberals and communists.
tim pool
Guys, guys, I don't literally want people to die or to be sterilized, but understand the PR of us looking at liberals and saying, I hope you get the vaccine, please get your six.
Cause when you die, there will be less of you.
How do they respond to that?
ian crossland
Can't kill an idea.
That's the problem with ideas.
Also the power of ideas.
tim pool
I'm really glad that you're going to sterilize your children.
Cut their balls off.
We don't want more of you.
What are they going to say?
How dare you say that?
That's offensive.
Why?
I'm agreeing with you.
Please, chop your son's balls off.
I don't want your genetics to pollute my country.
I don't mean that literally.
I'm trying to create a circumstance in which the left should be offended by what they're doing to themselves.
We're happy you're doing it!
Please do more!
Maybe then they'll fucking stop.
Wait a minute, you want us to sterilize our kids?
Yes!
Maybe we shouldn't do that.
unidentified
Aww.
tim pool
This is where we're currently at.
phil labonte
Man, who'da thunk it, right?
serge du preez
Yeah, ideas definitely seem to die, yeah, but except for communism, you'd think that idea would just die off.
ian crossland
Capitalism probably won't die off either.
tim pool
Capitalism's more than an idea.
serge du preez
It's more like reality.
tim pool
Yeah, right.
serge du preez
It's like competing for resources.
tim pool
It's like the functioning system of resource exchange.
Communism is the unnatural weird shit.
ian crossland
But capitalism's kind of like an enforced regularity.
phil labonte
I think that when you talk about capitalism, you're talking about a lot more stuff than just exchange markets and private property.
tim pool
No, he's talking about corporatocracy or something.
Capitalism quite literally just means the private exchange of goods and resources.
serge du preez
And we aren't a purely capitalist economy anyway.
We haven't been for a long time.
We're a mixed economy.
ian crossland
We have social services.
It took us a while to figure out monopolies and how dangerous they were.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
Listen, listen.
Go back.
Go back in time.
50,000 years.
To the dawn of the first man.
And there are two guys.
And they're not even wearing clothes.
And the one guy has some kind of primitive proto-banana.
You ever see the old banana?
Like they're starchy.
Yeah, like they're ovals.
And the other guy walking has got a, you know, sack.
He's got a goat's stomach tied in a knot where he poured the goat's milk into it.
They then walk up to each other and the guy goes, oh, go.
And then the other guy goes, oh, eh, none.
And then they go, ah.
They break it in half and they trade.
That's capitalism.
There's no system, there's no government.
They freely traded goods amongst each other for what they thought was the true value of the goods.
That's what capitalism means.
Whether there's a government or not, it exists.
It's just the way things are.
Communism would be, a third guy walks up, whacks them both over the head, takes their stuff, sits with it, eats most of it, and then gives them little bits.
That's communism.
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It's the corporatism.
You know what I mean?
It's all these kind of handouts and these special deals.
tim pool
But that's not capitalism!
unidentified
I agree.
And that's what I mean.
I think everybody tries to conflate the two.
My answer to that is like, go to the doctor and ask him how much it's going to cost to get your tonsils out.
You won't get an answer.
I mean, when you look at them, you know, the overlay of the insurance companies, the corporations, you know, the health, it's not really even healthcare, it's health insurance.
tim pool
It's command economy.
unidentified
And it's like, I don't want to say we don't have capitalism, but like, we absolutely do not have free market capitalism in this country.
tim pool
We are a mixed economy.
We're not a free market capitalist country.
We're not a capitalist country.
The United States is not capitalist.
It is mixed economy.
phil labonte
I think you're right.
And it's the people get wrapped up around, you know, the concept of capitalism, what capitalism means.
Is it about all these other structures and stuff, or is it just markets and et cetera, et cetera?
And I think that even capitalism as an idea or the term capitalism, Is not really useful, in my opinion, because it's been watered down to not mean what it actually means.
We live in a system where we have a government that protects private property rights and that's all you need.
serge du preez
Yeah, that's true.
phil labonte
That if you have private property rights, all of the things that you want from capitalism stem from that.
serge du preez
Yeah.
phil labonte
If you have the right to your property and the right to dispose of your property as you see fit, And the right to keep any property that you acquire or that that property you currently own generates for you, as long as those structures, those ideas are protected by your government.
And they have to be more than just, well, we'll mostly kind of do it, like the stuff that's happening in New York right now with Donald Trump.
The fact that the government's not protecting his property rights.
That's going to have negative effects on the economy and the negative effects are people are not going to do business in New York.
They're going to leave.
As long as you have property rights that are protected by your government and you have the ability to keep the property that you create, you're going to have people taking the property that they've earned or that they've created and they're going to be trading.
You're probably going to want a medium of exchange to facilitate the trades because maybe you got sneakers and someone else has eggs and You want some eggs, but he don't want your sneakers.
So it'd be nice if you had something that you could use to the intermediary to facilitate that transaction.
But these are the fundamental things about capitalism that makes economies work.
All of the things like the government getting involved in picking winners and losers and corporate corporatism and all that stuff.
That's all foreign to property rights and to a capitalist system.
tim pool
You know, I was thinking a lot about this and, you know, reading more and more about what's been going on, I really just came to the realization, fuck communists.
phil labonte
Yeah.
I mean, it sucks so much.
ian crossland
The problem is it gets, it infests people's soul and it's not the people that are the problem.
It's the idea.
You got to shake them loose and make them realize like, yo, if all of us get together and make it work, It's gonna be some people at the top that end up controlling it.
tim pool
Shaking or maybe like a merciless beating with a truncheon.
I am kidding.
With your words.
phil labonte
Joke.
ian crossland
Your verbal truncheon, yeah.
phil labonte
You can convince people.
tim pool
No violence.
phil labonte
I'm not really a spiritual guy, so I don't delve into spiritual stuff, but the spirit of socialism, the motivating emotion, it's never altruism.
They say it is, but it's always hate for people that have more.
Hate for people they deem.
Someone looks at someone else's life and they say, that guy has more than I think he should.
And I hate him for it.
If he was a good person, if Elon Musk was a good fucking person, he would sell his goddamn spaceships and feed everyone on earth.
But he's a bastard for not doing it.
And that's why we have fucking poor people.
Because Elon Musk and the goddamn billionaires are fucking scum!
ian crossland
If there's 100 of us, we're all going to be better off if all 100 of us have some.
If I keep it all and you 99 get to watch me have it, it's bad.
unidentified
So you want to spread it around in your community?
tim pool
And the word communism and commune and community... You are talking quite literally about communism.
I agree.
You're right.
When one person seizes all the resources from everyone else to keep for himself, that's communism.
It's bad.
unidentified
Agree.
ian crossland
Or when you divide all the resources among the community.
unidentified
Who's are they to divide?
tim pool
If I have all the food, because I grew all the food within my farm, and there's 99 other people who want it, they can go fuck themselves.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, if you're a tribe and you come up on a new piece of land and you have a chief... You're adding... Every time you talk about it, you're adding more context and more things, more rules to your system.
ian crossland
It's not about, fuck him.
This is a system of, I want to help all these other people.
unidentified
That's how it starts.
It always starts that way.
ian crossland
And it works in small groups.
tim pool
You want to know how you help people?
You teach them to fish.
You do not give them fish.
phil labonte
So if I have a bunch of fish- You do both if you can.
tim pool
No, you don't.
ian crossland
You do.
You want to make sure everyone can fish and everyone gets fish.
tim pool
No, there are signs everywhere saying do not feed the animals, they'll become dependent and then die.
phil labonte
That's real.
tim pool
You know what happens if you feed deer?
The deer go up to people's homes and kill children.
Do not fucking give to the deer.
The deer have to learn how to survive on their own.
People do this all the time, where they put up deer feeders- You're talking about adults, okay.
The deer will come to the house and they'll be like, oh, I want to give the deer an apple.
They have videos where the deer walks in the kitchen.
They're like, oh, look at the deer family.
The deer family then goes to a different house and does the same thing.
And the kid freaks out.
The deer gets scared and kicks the kid in the stomach and the kid dies.
ian crossland
So what about the crippled guy that can't fish?
What about the kids that can't?
They're too young.
serge du preez
Like you got to give them fish.
tim pool
value for the fish. It's supported by their parents and people who are crippled must provide value in
another way to be traded for the fish. The idea that we as a as a human civilization can support
indefinitely people who can't carry their own weight in any capacity is a mathematical fact.
It will collapse.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Period.
ian crossland
It only works in small groups.
That's the point, I think.
serge du preez
Right.
tim pool
So, if a group of people are in a tribe and they come across a bountiful forest full of delicious fruits, well then, yeah, they can take what they want and then divide it amongst each other for the labor that they provide.
ian crossland
And if the guy that gets there first is like, I'm gonna take all these and sell them to the tribe, you're gonna like, eh, that guy's gonna get executed.
tim pool
Probably, because he did not grow them and do the labor for it.
And there's barbarism.
He tried to capitalize on it.
phil labonte
No, that's theft!
ian crossland
No, it didn't belong to anybody, he just found it first.
phil labonte
Then if it doesn't belong to anybody, why would they kill him for taking it?
tim pool
No, no, no, war happens.
ian crossland
I mean, if you fuck your tribe over for profit, like, you know.
unidentified
No!
Get bent.
tim pool
He finds the fruit and then says- He's a scout, yeah, he's a scout.
I found it all, and I have hoarded it, and it's mine.
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah, good luck with that one.
tim pool
Yeah, good luck.
Right, if you can't defend your property- From the community.
And so, this is war.
phil labonte
So then Mike makes right.
So if he has a gun, he can just shoot everybody trying to take it back.
Right.
ian crossland
I mean, these are just... Yes, but that's not communism.
unidentified
Yeah, but the way I look at it is you're sanitizing force by giving it to the government, right?
Weak men do that, right?
They're giving the option to the tribe or whoever this fictitious thing is.
It's always who gets to decide.
Right?
It's just like on hate speech.
We'd all love to end hate speech if we could decide what hate speech is or who's the person that decides what is hate speech.
Right?
When you get into that, like, there's that layer here.
You're saying he's adding rules.
It's like, who makes that decision?
There was a guy I was with last week, he had this really unique way, super libertarian guy, but he said, he says, I'm tired of people sanitizing theft and violence through their neighbor, right, through government, or trying to act like that somehow that's this moral high ground.
So there's only two things that take away happiness every single time it happens to somebody, any of us, any human being, violence, Theft.
If those happen, 100% of the time, your happiness goes down.
But for some reason, we give those over to the government.
And we say that through our elected officials, you know, this is something that we're going to delegate to them and then make it okay.
tim pool
So let's talk about the idea of a scout going to an apple orchard.
And he says, these are my apples now.
Okay, by what practical means does he have to own, convey, and trade with these apples?
He can carry a bag of them back to the tribe.
And what happens when he does carry the bag of apples back to the tribe?
They say, you found a bunch of apples.
He then says, I will provide these apples to my tribe in exchange for steak and water and food and shelter.
He's not building a house, he's a scout.
Someone had to have built this shelter for him.
In small-scale communities, this stuff is very, very simple trade, but it is the essence of capitalism.
He went out, found fruit, he brought it back, he expects something in return.
Insurance used to be really simple.
There was a small village.
Everybody built a house.
Insurance existed as, if my house burns down, you will all help me build a new one, and if your house burns down, I will help you build one.
And if someone didn't, they'd say, fuck you, then we're not gonna help you ever again.
The fire department would sell badges you'd put on your house.
And if your house was burning and they showed up and you didn't have a badge, they would let your house burn.
That's the way things were.
That's the nature of capitalism.
And so, if it's a really small group of people, the guy who finds the apples and then says, no one can have any of my apples, would just basically lie to the rest of his tribe and say there are no apples.
For what purpose?
What would he gain?
What would he trade?
And how would he benefit?
He could come back with apples, and yes, still, he would have a shelter, he would have a family, he would have friends.
The trade is just such a dramatically small scale, there's no real need for large systems of intermediary trade like we have with dollars.
But now let's say there's three tribes.
One tribe finds a bunch of apples.
They want to trade those apples with the other tribe who has no apples, but they have fish.
So they come to mutual agreements and exchange, and perhaps then there is the creation of an intermediary so that they can exchange and trade.
Why should the scout for one tribe give the other tribes all of the apples they found in exchange for nothing, when they took the risk, did the work to locate and secure the apples in the first place?
ian crossland
Yeah, it was when tribes started settling together in cities that we really started seeing.
tim pool
Population expansion.
I think capitalism.
No, capitalism always existed.
Yeah, that's probably true.
They would use shells as a trade medium.
ian crossland
Like someone would bring something somewhere and trade them for stuff.
tim pool
Because once you got to a hundred people, you'd have a guy and he'd be like, hey, I have a fish.
And the guy says, I have a fish.
And it's like, but I really need that wood.
It's like, I don't need a fish.
Okay, what if I give you a shell?
ian crossland
Or I'll give you five fish.
tim pool
No, not even.
I don't need it.
ian crossland
Despite the value of the fish is lower, so you can get more of them.
tim pool
No, they gave them a shell because the intermediary allows them to trade for things.
It advanced from barter into intermediary trade.
ian crossland
The point is, communism, the concept, isn't evil.
Yes, it is.
And in small groups, it functions.
phil labonte
No, it's not.
ian crossland
As a national governance system, it is non-functional.
unidentified
It's evil.
phil labonte
It's evil.
The idea that you're entitled to someone else taking care of you, you're entitled to the time of someone else's, the effort that someone else, you're entitled to it to take care of you, that is evil.
ian crossland
You're not, as a child, you're not entitled to your father's... Now you added child, though.
unidentified
Yes.
phil labonte
Adults, children, if you're talking about... I'm talking about a family unit.
Okay, a family is a family.
If you're talking about adults, you're talking about adults.
But when you're talking about kids, you're not talking about communism.
You're talking about a family as opposed to adults that are capable.
So if you're going to talk about families, and when you say communism, we're talking about adults that are capable.
As soon as you bring up families, you've changed the subject.
ian crossland
But they're not talking about people that are only capable in this world right now.
They want to give to people that can't do.
phil labonte
That's part of this communistic Those are special cases.
The reason they're special cases is because in most market economies, mixed economies, the reason you have a mixed economy is so that you can take care of the people that can't.
So you have...
A capitalist system or a system with private property so that you can actually produce capital so that way you can take the things you have and make more so that way you can give to people that don't have anything.
But if you are talking about a capitalist system or if you're talking about a communist system, you're talking about adults dealing with other adults.
As soon as you say, well, you have a children, then we've stopped talking about anything that's related to communism and you're only talking about families and stuff.
So if you want to talk about adults and adults, Communism, where adults are expecting other adults to provide the sustenance from each according to his ability to each according to his need.
If you're talking about adults doing that, that is evil.
Because you end up with people, you end up, listen, human nature has proven over and over and over and over and over, every time communism has tried, they have proven that people will say, I don't have to work, I'm not gonna.
Old sayings in the Soviet Union, they pretend to pay us, so we pretend to work.
The reason you stand in bread lines is because if you're standing in line and you have nothing to do, you're literally just taking up time because they don't have any work for you to do because the economy doesn't produce shit.
tim pool
In Venezuela, when I went to buy a cell phone, To manufacture fake jobs for the purpose of socialism, there were seven different people I had to talk to and fill out forms for to buy a cell phone.
In the United States, you walk in, you walk up to one person, say, I want that phone.
They say, okay, let's fill this all out.
What's your name?
What's your name?
In Venezuela, you walk in and someone asks you what you want.
You say, I want a cell phone.
Okay.
Then they send you to the cell phone guy.
The cell phone guy will show you pictures of phones.
You then ask them about what the phones do and say, I want this one.
Okay.
Then they send you the phone acquisition guy, who then has a display case with the physical phones.
You then explain to him which phone you've chosen from the phone salesman.
He then goes in the back and finds the phone for you.
You now have your phone.
Next up, the data guy.
Now you go talk to somebody who can tell you about data.
Talk to this guy, and then he says, okay, now I need to talk, now that you know which data you want, you have to fill out this form and bring this form to the data acquisition man, who then facilitates the sale of the data.
I'm not kidding.
Then you go to the data sale guy, and after you give him the form, pay for it, he sends you to the SIM card guy.
Finally, then, after you buy the SIM card, you bring it to the final guy for checkout and assembly, and you finalize everything, he puts your phone together, hands it to you, and you can leave.
phil labonte
To Tim's point, in New York City, if you are working at a venue, the theater guilds, the theater unions, the labor unions, They have pushers and loaders.
If you roll up with your bus, your 18-wheeler, there are the people that will take the stuff out of the truck and put it on the ground.
Those are the loaders.
They will not push that stuff to the stage.
There are pushers for that.
If you can have your stuff unloaded and they don't have the pushers there, you wait until the pushers go.
See, your whole crew is sitting around doing nothing.
If I try to walk on stage after they've turned the lights off because of the union, they will literally yell at me because of the union.
tim pool
This happened in New York when we were doing our event.
We were doing a live show.
I said, I want to check out the stage.
The union crew came out yelling at us, saying that we were violating their contract or whatever by being on stage.
But that's union stuff.
There was a professor, this is a famous story, who was giving a lesson on communism to the students, and there were students who were arguing in favor of saying exactly what Ian is saying.
So he said, okay, here's what we're going to do.
The next exam we do will be based on a communistic standard.
Everyone will do work.
The total fruits of your labor will be divided evenly amongst everyone based on what they need.
Sound good?
Great.
Everybody needs a passing grade.
What happened?
A decent amount of the students studied and passed with A's, A pluses.
A large portion got B's and C's, and then a few people failed.
The teacher then said, to each according to their needs, you need a passing grade.
So we're gonna take all of the scores from all the tests, average them out, and then give everyone the same grade, because that's the total amount of resources to be distributed amongst the people.
Everyone ended up with like a B minus.
So a lot of people were like, well, I had that anyway.
The people who studied really hard and got it right got fucking pissed.
And they were like, oh, this is bullshit.
My grade's being dropped.
I didn't do anything wrong.
The people who failed were laughing because they were like, I didn't do shit.
I hung out with my friends and drank and I get a passing grade.
The next time... So next week, they did another quiz, another exam.
This time, everyone got C-.
Why?
Because the people who worked hard said, fuck that, I'm not gonna bother, I'll just get a B anyway, right?
Now everyone's grades dropped because nobody wanted to do the extra work if all they were gonna get was a B. The cap was a B. If you do 100%, if you do the best, you still can only get a B. So fuck it, let's stop at 80.
Next week, everyone failed.
Because once everyone realized that no matter how much work you did, you were capped out, they all just started slacking off, and said, someone else will carry the weight for me.
ian crossland
Yeah, I don't think it's good.
tim pool
And this is exactly how all communist systems have functioned, but we gotta go to college.
ian crossland
The way to convince people to shake that mindset is to acknowledge that in small groups, it functions, when you have compassion, but it does not scale.
tim pool
You're saying small groups because you're using the analogy of the family that we've made.
ian crossland
Yeah, or small communities where you provide the goods.
Because if you go up to someone that believes in communism is great, and you say, no, you're wrong, you're an idiot, and fuck communism and fuck you, they're not going to listen to you.
unidentified
It doesn't matter.
ian crossland
You need to acknowledge that there is some value to the concept.
tim pool
You do not.
ian crossland
Maybe if you want to convince somebody, you've got to understand their side of view.
tim pool
So this is the issue, Ian, that you've not been able to ever get over.
You are arguing 17 different things at once.
ian crossland
No, I'm not.
tim pool
You are literally.
ian crossland
I'm saying that communism doesn't scale up.
It works in small communities.
tim pool
And so when we make the point that you are misunderstanding the family argument, which was a statement of, a family is communist, and as you scale up, it doesn't work, that's because there is one resource provider.
The dad.
ian crossland
Or there could be multiple.
serge du preez
The breadwinner.
tim pool
In the traditional family, where the argument comes from that a family is communist, there is one.
ian crossland
Just talk about a tribe.
Talk about a tribe where everybody knows each other.
tim pool
A tribe is very different.
60 to 40 people.
ian crossland
60 to 40 people.
20 hunters, 20 fishers, 3 guys are farming.
Yeah, stuff like that.
You know where they're all sharing stuff.
tim pool
You still don't have communism.
ian crossland
That would be a form of communism that would work in small doses.
tim pool
It's still not communism.
ian crossland
Capitalism wouldn't work in that system.
tim pool
Your tribal systems have leaders.
Communism says from each according to their ability to each according to their need.
ian crossland
So the leader wouldn't be hoarding all the capital in that system.
That would be dangerous.
tim pool
So that's what communism is.
ian crossland
No, that's capitalism.
tim pool
No, it isn't!
phil labonte
No, it's not!
ian crossland
If a tribal chieftain says, I own all of this and all of you, that would also be slavery.
That's communism!
unidentified
That's communism!
That's literally what happens in every communist state as they scale up.
ian crossland
That's the point.
tim pool
No, it is literally the basis of all communism ever that the authority controls all resources and literally, I will say it again, provides To each according to their need, and from each according to their ability.
Quite literally saying, there will be a system in place by which a small group of people determine your abilities and your requirements.
You do not get to decide.
ian crossland
That's gonna happen in capitalism too.
tim pool
In capitalism, you have someone who has the choice to say, go fuck yourself.
ian crossland
Wait, who?
Donald Trump?
You!
Who gets to say go fuck yourself in this capitalism?
unidentified
You!
phil labonte
You!
ian crossland
The banks?
phil labonte
Every single person that decides I don't want to do business with you.
ian crossland
The banks that own your fucking debt?
phil labonte
Every single person!
You don't have to!
tim pool
I have no debt!
I have no debt, Ian, why?
ian crossland
You, all your money is debt!
tim pool
No it's not!
ian crossland
Yes it is!
tim pool
I own, I have no debt!
ian crossland
The Federal Reserve loaned all that shit to you, dude!
tim pool
That's, that, listen, listen!
ian crossland
Ian, it owns all the capital.
unidentified
Here's the fuck you, ready?
I chose to give Steve Jobs money by buying this.
I could have said fuck you and never bought this product, right?
There was no tyrannical force involved.
There was nobody that said I had to do it.
There was not one guy who said we have to purchase these iPhones.
Right, I think the fuck you is the consumer can say that.
Now, you might say, well, what if you're starving, right?
You can't say fuck you and walk away from food.
But in a true capitalist society, it's the consumer choosing, making that choice, because this was provided, a product was provided, and then we all say, hey, it's worth it.
I see some androids around here, so maybe people would disagree, but what I'm saying is that's the fuck you moment.
The thing with the family though that's interesting to me, there's no tyrannical force in a family.
Sure, you could say the parents are the ones that decide, but you're not turning over the law system.
These families exist right now, if you say an American family, there are basic laws that the government has on the books.
But a dad can't all of a sudden legalize murder, right?
Like, they're not in charge of everything.
tim pool
And children can leave at 18.
Right.
Or, arguably, they can file paperwork and leave at 16.
unidentified
But that's the missing piece.
A family doesn't have some government that gives them all authority and power.
tim pool
From each according to their ability, to each according to their need.
Fundamentally requires an individual committee or authority to determine a person's ability and needs.
ian crossland
That's Marx.
That's Marxism.
Sure.
tim pool
And that was the formation and basis of communism.
ian crossland
He's trying to scale that shit up and it did not work.
tim pool
Capitalism would be, the government says, you have the ability to work ten times harder, and you don't need that much food, and you can go fuck yourself, I can do whatever I want.
unidentified
And you have to live with the repercussions of that decision, as an individual.
tim pool
Yeah, maybe you live in the gutter, and then people eventually say, we don't want you living in the gutter, because you smell like shit, get the fuck out of here.
And they kick you out, and then you go wander around the country, and then you struggle.
Or, you say, I'm going to, I don't know, here's capitalism.
I can actually grow 20% more crops that I actually need.
I can then take the extra crops and bring it to a leather worker in town who's going to make me a nice studded leather vest to protect me from the brambles as I do my work, making it more efficient and easier for me to do my work.
In communism, an authority determines you do not need that extra 20%, but you have the ability to produce it.
So from your ability, you must Produce 20% more than everyone else.
And to your needs, we will take it from you and give it to other people.
That's communism.
ian crossland
I don't think that it necessarily forces you to produce more than you need.
tim pool
From each according to their ability.
If you have the ability to produce 100 bushels of wheat, you must do it.
ian crossland
If you only need 10.
tim pool
That's Marx, dude.
That's what communism's formation was.
ian crossland
That's Marxism.
That's Marxism.
He fucked it up.
tim pool
Hey, hey, hey.
ian crossland
He tried to scale it up.
unidentified
Hey, hey, hey.
phil labonte
Communism, Marx wrote a book called Capital!
Communism comes from Marx.
Socialism, as a concept, did predate Marx, right?
So Rousseau was talking about socialism.
There are people that argue that Hegel was laying the foundation for socialism because the way that Hegel looked at the state, Hegel believed that the state was God's manifestation on earth, was the manifestation of the will of God on earth, and that There is, uh, there are arguments that Hegel was the first guy that came up, or was, was early socialism, but Marx was the guy that came up with communism.
unidentified
If you're talking about communism... You wanna just read that for him, Phil?
phil labonte
Uh, let's see which one.
Uh, let's, which part?
What, uh, Lenin was influenced by the works of Karl Marx in September 1889.
The Ulyanov family moved to the city of Samaria where Lenin joined Alexei Sklyarenko's socialist discussion circle.
So, but communism came from Marx first.
So if you're talking about the things that you're talking about.
Yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
serge du preez
Yeah, and just before we do this, I want to say, Ian, you should read Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith because he talks about monopolies and why monopolies are bad.
Explicitly.
He has a whole thing talking about it.
Just to quickly address that.
Anyways, let's talk to Dave, the Lego guy, because I like Legos, and I built a Lego this weekend.
It was a Scorpion.
It was pretty sick.
unidentified
Sick.
serge du preez
How you doing, Dave?
tim pool
I just want to say something real quick, Dave.
Before you get started, Dave.
One second, Dave.
The amount of work that I am capable of doing is painful.
And I do it every day.
And if I were to only receive what I needed, 80,000 a year, but I had to work what I was capable of working, I would kill myself.
serge du preez
Yeah, seriously.
unidentified
That's true.
serge du preez
That's happened in communism before.
That's true.
It has happened.
phil labonte
Literally.
tim pool
Overwhelmingly.
Anyway, Dave, here you are.
unidentified
Sorry, man.
serge du preez
Hey, guys.
unidentified
Glad to be back.
This is, what, my third time on?
phil labonte
Thanks.
unidentified
Yeah.
serge du preez
Yeah, hey, what's going on, man?
unidentified
Okay, uh, I actually have like the most on-point question today.
Uh, it just worked out that way.
Um, my question is actually for the whole panel.
Uh, Serge, even you can answer on this one.
Um, I filed my taxes yesterday.
And I got a historically low return on my taxes, and my tax guy was saying that's happening across the board.
tim pool
Thanks, Joe.
unidentified
My question is, have you guys noticed in your higher tax brackets that the government is keeping more of our money?
tim pool
I have given the government so much of my money.
It is remarkable.
In fact, I could probably fund a small village.
Holy shit.
If I didn't have to pay taxes, it would be absolutely nuts.
The only reason taxes exist is because they want to pull money out of the money supply because they're printing it.
So that's how they steal.
They will give loans, create money upon the issuance of debt, and then take money from you to erase the money they put out.
It's a way of Taking your money out of circulation to control for inflation.
That's all they're really doing.
That being said, as my accountant has informed me, since Donald Trump left office, the tax cuts have expired, and Joe Biden has increased taxes substantially, and it has been brutal for literally everybody.
And they're particularly going after the small earner.
They don't care as much for the ultra-wealthy because they've already got a mechanism in place for going after the ultra-wealthy.
And, more importantly, as anybody who knows economics will tell you, going after the ultra-wealthy is a waste of time if you can go after small groups en masse.
That's why they brought on, what, 80k IRS agents.
It's as simple as this.
It is easier to get $1 from a million people than it is to get $1,000,000 from one person.
You go to the wealthy guy, and you say, you owe us $1,000,000, and he says, no I don't.
And they say, yes you do, and he says, I will see you in court.
You're gonna spend $400,000 coming after me, maybe you'll get the money.
Or, they send a bill, automated from a computer, to a million people saying you owe us $10, and they all just say, fuck it, it's easier just to pay it.
And they do.
unidentified
Yeah.
You pay West Virginia?
tim pool
Well, we operate in a bunch of places.
unidentified
So yeah, we pay a lot.
I'm sure the state stuff.
That's the one thing for me.
tim pool
West Virginia is reforming their taxes because they know they're fucked.
West Virginia is a very dysfunctional state and it's time to fix things, guys.
Yeah, Maryland's also very dysfunctional.
unidentified
When moving to Florida, I gotta tell you, like, from Pennsylvania, moving to Florida, my wife's Air Force, and it's like, you don't even have to file, right?
It's not like you file and it's like, there's nothing local, there's no state, you literally just do nothing.
tim pool
High property tax though.
unidentified
Yeah, but it is, it is just, to me it was just night and day, you know, to only have to file one with the feds.
tim pool
Yeah, and then the West Virginia bill is pretty hefty.
Yeah.
But they're happy we're here, so my advice to West Virginia is stop the fucking weirdo drag kid shit, otherwise we pull our investment and we go to Texas or Florida.
phil labonte
Florida's great.
tim pool
I wanna go to Wyoming first.
unidentified
I didn't have a spare part to my quest.
tim pool
Get it.
serge du preez
Quickly, Owen.
We gotta wait today.
unidentified
Okay, so with that being said, you know, they're keeping more of our money.
What recourse do we have to, like, basically cut the fund for, like, The migrant crisis, the foreign wars, like, with the guests that you guys have had on in the past or that you guys are aware that's going on,
What are some recourses that we have to turn off the government to stop funding all this crap that we don't want our taxes going towards?
tim pool
They're not using your taxes to fund that stuff.
They create money in the money supply upon the agents of debt.
They just snap their fingers.
When they raise the debt ceiling, they're quite literally saying, we will just fabricate that money.
So when they're taking from you, it's after the fact and it's to control for inflation.
If they don't take from you and they pump money into the supply, inflation goes up.
That's all that happens.
The real issue, and this is why I complain about it all the time, the real issue is the cunts and the cocksuckers in CBP who with smiles on their faces accept the blood money from the Biden administration and the federal government.
unidentified
Yeah, well, the argument gets framed a lot that, oh, our tax money is going towards these things, and so maybe that gets conflated a bit where people think that, like, literally my tax money is paying for these migrants and stuff, where you just pointed out that no, it's controlling after the fact.
tim pool
The states do not print money, but they do receive federal grants, so it's a mixed bag.
But the reality is, we have a nation of amoral pieces of shit in law enforcement, in federal agencies, that don't care.
And they won't care.
Because when that cop takes money to facilitate human smuggling, he knows that he can go to any McDonald's and that money is fungible.
Doesn't matter.
Ain't no clerk at McDonald's gonna deny him his cheeseburger.
But think about a world in which this cop facilitates human smuggling with a smile on his face, walks into Burger King, and he's like, I'll get a, let me get the Whopper meal.
And the guy goes, no, fuck you.
You're a human smuggler.
He goes, what?
Get the fuck out.
Then he leaves.
Then he goes to the McDonald's across the street.
Get the fuck out of here, smuggler.
Then he realized, holy shit, my money is no longer fungible.
I can buy nothing with it.
Then they stop accepting it.
Then they say, I won't do this job because it means I can't buy a fucking cheeseburger.
But as long as we live in this massive, mechanized, industrialized world, especially with kiosks, oh boy, you think it's bad now.
Wait till it's all kiosks.
You're gonna have cops who will mercilessly... When we get to the point where there's no more humans involved in the day-to-day living circumstances, like, you order food from a machine, the machine makes it.
A police officer will, right now, if there's a seven-year-old kid holding a teddy bear, and a police chief says to his cop, shoot that kid in the face, the cop's gonna be like, what, why, what the fuck, are you nuts?
Mechanize everything, and that cop's gonna be wearing a fucking wristband or Apple Vision Pro, the Apple Vision's gonna say, Terminate Target Threat Level Alpha.
And he's gonna go, you got it!
Bang!
Shoot it and kill it.
And then he's gonna get money deposited into his account, which he will then send to Amazon to deliver, by drone, the milk he needs to eat.
And he never has to worry about getting cancelled ever again.
However, to be fair, at that point in society, it will be a robot dog shooting the child, so... There won't even be a human to get paid.
phil labonte
Things are gonna get weird.
unidentified
Anyway, we do gotta get going here.
serge du preez
Thanks, Dave.
unidentified
Keep it positive.
Have a good one, guys.
serge du preez
Cheers, man.
Sinovsky, aka Extreme Retard.
tim pool
How are you doing today?
unidentified
I love you.
Howdy, howdy.
serge du preez
Howdy, man.
unidentified
So, you know, I try to do these cold openings every time I call in.
It's going to invoke a memorable response.
And you guys upped the spicy game tonight with your communism conversations.
tim pool
Phil was almost singing.
It was beautiful.
ian crossland
I think we have lyrics.
unidentified
So I found out today that I lost the game.
phil labonte
Oh, you son of a bitch!
ian crossland
Where'd you leave it?
tim pool
Did you put it?
Which game?
phil labonte
No, well, that's the game.
If you hear the game, if you think of the game, if someone says the game and you hear the game, you lose the game.
That's how you lose the game.
unidentified
We just lost.
phil labonte
Yeah.
As soon as you think of the game, you lose the game, you motherfucker.
tim pool
I just thought of Baldur's Gate.
unidentified
So several thousand people just lost the game.
phil labonte
Yeah, absolutely.
unidentified
That's true.
phil labonte
A lot of people.
unidentified
So, my actual question is, in your segments, Tim, today, even your opener tonight, you talked about Letitia James threatening to seize the Trump assets if he refuses to pay.
So, while any of us paying attention see it for what it is, it's just theft and bullshit, what are your actual opinions on whether or not they would then sell that property for what it's actually valued at?
Do you think anyone would notice?
tim pool
No, they're going to turn it into migrant housing.
unidentified
Or do you think they thought that ahead?
tim pool
They're going to turn it into migrant housing.
Yeah.
They've already basically done it.
Bill de Blasio wanted to buy low-cost property to convert to public housing.
He has stated that it was his intention to do this.
I think their move is, ultimately, if they win, seize Trump Buildings, maybe Fifth Avenue, the UN, the Hotel of the UN, and maybe Columbus Circle, and then they convert it into public housing.
Value won't matter.
unidentified
Interesting.
I agree with that.
tim pool
Yeah.
So it's how the city, you know, de Blasio was like, he wanted to convert these, he wanted to buy these buildings pennies in the dollar, convert them into public housing.
He couldn't do it.
Here's one way you do it.
Claim a billion dollars of the buildings in New York are worth 20 million and you get them for free and you turn them into migrant housing.
Then you argue Trump owes you more money.
And when he's forced to pay you cash, you use that to facilitate the migrant housing.
And then they're laughing behind the scenes saying, Donald Trump was gonna build a wall, but in the end, he funded the migrant expansion.
unidentified
Yeah, always someone like that.
phil labonte
Isn't it good?
serge du preez
Hey, Sinofsky, anything else to add to that, man?
unidentified
Uh, Quiet Part podcast, check it out.
Though, I'm probably gonna get a lot of hate mail now for that one, so you're definitely gonna get a lot of hate for that one.
serge du preez
All right, yeah, cheers, man.
tim pool
Well, I'm making up a game called The Game, and when you think of it, you win.
phil labonte
Sick.
tim pool
So we all just won my game.
unidentified
Count me in.
tim pool
There we go.
You're a winner.
phil labonte
I prefer this game.
serge du preez
Not a... Oh, No Town Anarchy.
I thought it said nothing else.
No Town Anarchy.
How you doing?
unidentified
What's up, everybody?
And if you think about the game, but you acknowledge that the game happened, you don't lose.
phil labonte
Now he got me before I could acknowledge.
unidentified
Um, so I like, um, I asked a question and then, um, somebody backed out on a question about abortion and what's happening, um, with, uh, Alabama and their Supreme court.
And they're like, um, literally, um, Defining life down to retroactively embryos that are frozen, that's life.
How do we define life in this crazy world that we live in where motherfuckers are like, you're a baby and you were born.
You're not alive, we'll kill you.
And then, you know, all this money that they make off of, like, aborted fetuses and stuff, and most of these motherfuckers that vote for this crazy shit don't even realize who, like, Margaret Sanger is, or, like, you know, like, how that all started, and the craziness of it.
And it just ties into, like, you got a Supreme Court justice that can't even define woman, and her fucking job is to, like, define shit.
Not a biologist!
And this is for everybody.
I love you all, and I would love to hear your thoughts.
tim pool
So the issue in Alabama is they ruled that frozen embryos are children for the purpose of this particular suit or whatever.
But now people are saying, okay, well they didn't issue a ruling on whether babies in the womb are, so what's the question?
Well, then the ultimate determination is...
What does life begin?
unidentified
For me, it's like when a cell divides, motherfucker.
They can divide a cell, but you can't create that cell.
tim pool
Cell division is after conception.
unidentified
They can divide a cell, but you can't create that cell.
tim pool
But cell division is after conception.
Cell division is after conception.
The moment the sperm...
unidentified
No, I realize, but they can't create the cell though.
You know what I mean?
Like, okay, if their definition is like they can divide a cell, but they can't create that cell.
So what right do they have to determine who's worthy of life or not?
ian crossland
It's different.
Defining life and defining a human child are two different things.
unidentified
Well, I mean, if we're able to define it for, um, animals and, you know, this species is protected and this one's not, but, like, we make money off of... Yeah, stepping on a turtle leg is a felony.
Because... Yeah, I mean, it's insane.
We can define this and that, and, I mean... Well, do you have a more specific question, sir?
Well, um, you know, the, the question is like, um, like, okay, so like, where, where, where do we as a society have a right to define life?
And in my opinion, it would be like conception, you know, conception, you know, and like, you have all this like craziness, like, well, you know, the woman has the right to choose or whatever.
And then we have all this like, uh, you know, um, The funding of, like, people being able to just, like, do this crazy shit, and then you have a state like Alabama coming out and actually defining for a Supreme Court justice, basically, you know, like, what life is, and now you have this bifurcation, you know, among states and the federal government, you know, just perpetuating this bifurcation, you know.
But the states and the federal government are bifurcated on, like, a million different issues, abortion just being one of the most- And honestly, coming from mostly a background of being pretty much pro-abortion, I see this as a losing issue for Republicans.
I mean, Alabama's kind of taking the front on, well, this is how we define life, and our Supreme Court justices can't even do that.
And maybe there's a reason for that.
tim pool
Yeah.
serge du preez
Yeah, maybe.
tim pool
All right on, man.
unidentified
Well, anyway, yeah.
Thank you guys for taking my call and letting me rant a little bit.
Absolutely.
tim pool
Thanks for calling in.
serge du preez
Thanks, man.
unidentified
Cheers.
tim pool
Take care, man.
We had the Alabama story lined up.
We didn't get to it.
It's been like, There's not much there other than to say they did it, you know?
ian crossland
This is a human child?
A frozen embryo is a human child?
tim pool
Yep.
And it is.
unidentified
Alright, we got Conspiracy Ranch on the caboose.
serge du preez
How are you?
unidentified
Hey guys, can you hear me?
Yes.
serge du preez
Loud and clear.
unidentified
Perfect.
Phil, thank God you're on.
Cheers.
Alright.
So I had a question, and Ian touched on it, so I'm gonna go a little conspiratorial on my question.
So we were talking about bringing all these immigrants in and offering them citizenship to do military service or now they're coming into different cities and being in Illinois and being granted the ability to be police officers and blah blah blah blah.
We're talking and then Tim you brought up all the housing and what they're going to do with all the low-income buildings and what they want to do.
You're going to start housing all those people yeah yeah.
What if they're not building an army for us to go to Ukraine?
What if they are building an army for the cities, since the Republicans continuously keep saying, you're not gonna beat right-wingers, we have guns?
tim pool
Well, yeah, that was one of the principal predictions.
That when it comes time to civil war, they will go to the illegal immigrants and say, do you want to live here or not?
If you do, then you have to fight for it.
And then the argument will be the moral question over the rights.
They'll say that voting is a human right.
It doesn't matter if you're a citizen or not, that's an arbitrary distinction, and they will liken citizenship to being, like, they'll say undocumented is like being a slave.
That's the argument they're gonna make.
Then there's going to be illegal immigrant uprisings, and they're gonna call them undocumented uprisings.
They will make the argument that documentation is slavery.
They will make that the moral issue.
And then, I mean, in 50 years, they want the history books to say, That there were, you know, the Neo-Confederacy believed that people must have papers from the government to prove their human rights.
And that was so wrong.
And there will be people being like, can you believe they used to believe in like forced government documentation to get human rights?
That's crazy.
unidentified
No, I get you.
And I'm looking more along the lines of they are going to be acting as the French against the British.
Because we've all quit because they forced the military out before they've sent everybody home, we're not going to fight for you.
Okay, well now we have a full military force and we have the backing of the federal government.
Now we have created our own civil war by letting them in and we're essentially letting in our opposition force.
tim pool
I love how Democrats say stuff like, losers in 1861, and y'all are gonna lose again, and I'm like, guys, the Democrats were the slavers.
You guys lost.
Like, what the fuck are you talking about?
serge du preez
Southern Democrats.
People forget.
unidentified
Anyway, have a good night, guys.
Cheers, man.
tim pool
Hey, thanks for calling in.
serge du preez
Hey, cheers, man.
Great question, concise and everything, too.
tim pool
Wow, we ended up, even after all the communist screaming, made it through and got done on time.
Thanks for hanging out.
unidentified
Appreciate y'all having me.
tim pool
Been fun.
ian crossland
Yeah, I'm gonna need like three hours to do that communism conversation, right?
We should have a real communist on here, and then just go at it.
tim pool
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, because communism- For four hours.
Communists believe that the ends justify the means, so they have a right to lie to you to achieve their aims.
ian crossland
Yeah, get one of those guys on here, and let's do this for four hours.
tim pool
Why, they'll just lie about everything.
serge du preez
Exactly.
unidentified
They demand all- I'm the steel man, dude.
ian crossland
I don't love communism.
unidentified
They get three hours.
ian crossland
Don't get me wrong.
unidentified
They get three hours, and it's against the rules.
You cannot cut them off.
tim pool
All right, we're gonna wrap it up, everybody.
Thanks for hanging out.
We got a fun week.
Tomorrow is going to be based as fuck.
Should we say who's tomorrow?
serge du preez
I mean, if you want to.
tim pool
I think we should.
serge du preez
Is there a risk of it not working out, or?
tim pool
I hope not, but it's Kirk Cameron.
serge du preez
Yeah, there you go.
tim pool
Dude, I'm so excited for Kirk Cameron.
It's gonna be awesome.
And we've been trying to book him for a really, really long time.
It's gonna be a fun conversation.
Hopefully he makes it, but I'm really excited.
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