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US Hit By MAJOR Cyber Attack, Google RIGGING 2024 Election w/Terrence Williams | Timcast IRL
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Today, the U.S.
tim pool
was hit by a major cyber attack.
This was pharmacies, not the cell outage.
A bunch of pharmacies, apparently this big network, was unable to get people's prescriptions, and it had people a bit worried because at the same time, around 4 a.m., we started getting mass reports of AT&T and other cell networks going down.
But while the media was saying it was mostly AT&T, and to be fair, it was mostly AT&T, very few people were reporting on the fact that a whole bunch of services had gone down this morning.
Now, a lot of people are speculating that it may be a cyber attack.
In fact, it is being investigated by the government as a potential cyber attack.
We'll see.
I'd imagine the government actually knows if it was or not, and they're not going to tell us.
But we also have rumors it was a solar flare, which I really don't think makes sense because AT&T took the brunt of the outage.
I suppose if the solar flare was only affecting one part of the electromagnetic spectrum, the one that AT&T had licensed or something, I really doubt it.
But it's big news, so we'll definitely talk about that.
And we've got other big news.
Allsides.com reporting that Google's inherent bias has ramped up this year.
In my opinion, this is indicative of Google is trying to rig the election.
How?
We've talked to Dr. Robert Epstein about this.
It's really, really simple how a major social network can rig an election.
Something simple like, come election day, every Democrat gets sent a notice, go vote, and the Republicans don't.
Or how about this?
When you search for a news story, Google makes sure you only get a Democrat perspective.
Thus, when it comes time to vote, who are you going to believe?
You get trapped in that fake news machine.
So we're going to talk about that.
We got a bunch of other news.
Ladies and gentlemen, I didn't want to lead with this despite the fact it's a very big story.
Vice.com is over.
Officially over.
Vice is laying off hundreds of employees.
The reason I want to lead with it, even though it's a really big story, we're seeing over 500 journalists laid off in the past couple of months, is that Vice has died now like four or five times.
And so it's like, they're in bankruptcy, their investment has failed, things like that.
But now it's official.
Vice.com is no more.
They will no longer publish.
And they're going to be some kind of back-end production company, I suppose.
So this is really big news.
It's the end of an era, my friend.
The end of an era.
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Yep.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and pancakes is Terrence Williams.
terrence kentrell williams
Thank you for having me on again, brother.
tim pool
Yeah, who are you?
What do you do?
terrence kentrell williams
What do I do?
Well, I sell pancakes and I talk a lot of shit online.
Well, there you go.
tim pool
I think that just about explains it.
But not just pancakes.
You have crispy chicken mix?
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, so I have my cousin T's pancakes.
I have some crispy chicken mix.
Tim, I sent you some.
Did y'all get the pancakes?
ian crossland
No, I haven't had it yet.
terrence kentrell williams
Y'all haven't got the fried chicken mix?
ian crossland
I don't know.
unidentified
Maybe.
tim pool
It might be downstairs.
terrence kentrell williams
I sent y'all hot sauce, fried chicken mix, biscuits, jams and jellies.
hannah claire brimelow
Tim is holding it for himself.
He's not giving it to the rest of us.
ian crossland
Y'all didn't get the food?
tim pool
It might just be downstairs.
terrence kentrell williams
There's so many Americans starving and y'all didn't get my food?
Y'all just letting it sit in a box?
Give me my damn chicken back.
I'm taking my chicken back when I leave here.
I'm taking it back.
But yeah, I have all that.
But for the ones who don't know me, I'm Terrence K. Williams, and I'm a comedian, and I am a really outspoken person.
I am a conservative and a big Trump supporter.
A lot of people know me from Twitter and Facebook and, you know, talking a lot of shit about the Democrats and clowning those lunatics.
And outside of that, I sell pancakes.
tim pool
Well, right on.
Thanks for hanging out.
terrence kentrell williams
Cousin T's, yes.
tim pool
Should be fun.
Got Hannah-Claire Brimlow hanging out.
hannah claire brimelow
Hey, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
I'm a writer for scnr.com.
That's Scanner News.
I'm so happy to be back tonight.
Ian's here, too.
ian crossland
Hello, everyone.
Ian Crossland.
Happy to be here.
Let's move it on.
serge du preez
Yeah, let's get to it.
I'm Serge.com.
Good to see you, Terrence, as always.
terrence kentrell williams
Good to see you too, brother.
Cheers.
tim pool
Here's the big news from the Daily Mail.
FBI and Homeland Security urgently investigating whether AT&T outage was a cyber attack.
As security expert tells DailyMail.com, it has all the hallmarks of a hack.
Now, this morning it was massive.
Down detectors showing that AT&T, Cricket, Reddit, I mean, I don't even know, Reddit was down, T-Mobile was down, Verizon was down, Xfinity was down, YouTube was fine, Axe had some outages, but there was, even Starlink was reporting outages, FirstNet reporting outages, and what else, Mint Mobile, US Cellular, it was massive across the board.
Starlink, there you go, you can see, I don't know, something weird with their graphic.
And a lot of people are wondering whether or not this is a cyber attack.
What I can tell you is, definitively, the US was hit by a cyber attack at the same time.
Pharmacies nationwide face delays as healthcare tech company reports cyber attack.
Change Healthcare said it became aware of the outside threat on Wednesday morning, disconnecting their systems for security purposes.
So while your phones are going down, our healthcare system is being attacked and this was preventing people from getting their prescriptions.
They said it was an emergency and you have to come in.
We'll figure it out.
But they asked most people not to get it.
I think it was all a cyber attack.
Some people are speculating it has to do with U.S.
lobbyists canceling CCP contracts.
Don't know if that's true.
Wild speculation.
But I think it was a cyber attack.
terrence kentrell williams
A movie just came out about this on Netflix.
Remember the movie Leave the World Behind?
That movie just came out and now this happens.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, evil villains always tell you their plan first.
tim pool
Predictive programming?
terrence kentrell williams
Yes.
It probably was a cyber attack.
hannah claire brimelow
No, I think it was.
terrence kentrell williams
It only makes sense.
hannah claire brimelow
I was looking at this poll from New York Times, it's a couple months old at this point, that was talking about like American sense of doom.
And it's Republican women are the most likely to report that they feel like as a nation, we're on the brink of failure.
And it's Democrat men who are the most likely to be like, no, everything's on the right track.
Sounds good.
Like, I think the idea that we are under cyber attack is very real to a lot of Americans.
And in fact, instead of being like, oh, no, that would never happen to us, they're likely to believe it.
tim pool
Democrat women are?
hannah claire brimelow
Democrat men are the most likely to report, no, the country's on the right track, everything's fine.
Republican women are the most likely to say everything's falling apart.
tim pool
Well, it makes sense because Democrat men are basically... Morons?
No, they're like the people who don't pay attention, but they'll say whatever they can to try and get laid.
terrence kentrell williams
Has the White House said anything about this?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Not that I'm aware of.
I know Joe Biden said that even though the Supreme Court blocked him from giving student debt, he was going to do it anyway.
hannah claire brimelow
And then he weighed in on the Alabama frozen embryos are children decision, you know, several days late, almost a week later.
So he's just trying to distract, which also may indicate that it's a cyber attack.
If they're not willing to say everything's fine, maybe it's because they cannot say that without, you know, having to testify under oath.
tim pool
I think the fact that they reported it as A cell phone outage when it was clearly affecting a bunch of other services?
Like, why was Starlink experiencing outages at the exact same time?
ian crossland
Why was Facebook and LinkedIn not experiencing it?
tim pool
So, if it's not a cyber attack, I'm like, maybe there's a third-party networking tool or something that they all shared that broke.
Sometimes it's as simple as everyone uses the same plugin, and then when it expires or something, they're like, oh crap, nobody realized that was gonna happen.
ian crossland
A healthcare service also went down?
tim pool
They got cyber attacked.
That was a cyber attack.
ian crossland
So I'm kind of like- That's confirmed.
They were like, this is a cyber- Yeah, this is probably all part of the same thing.
I mean, I'm in the- China!
At this point, if you think this was not a cyber attack, but they've already acknowledged half of the attack, you need to prove why you think it's not a cyber attack.
tim pool
Even Google was reportedly down.
And so, Down Detector uses user reporting as well as their own proprietary detection methods.
terrence kentrell williams
Did any banks get hit?
tim pool
Any what?
terrence kentrell williams
Banks.
tim pool
Not that I'm aware of.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you remember, I have to look it up when it was, but there was a big communications network in Canada that went down and it affected all kinds of cities because, you know, anything from like public transportation that relies on Wi-Fi, it all went out all at one time.
And it was down for, you know, a significant amount of time, almost 12 hours, I think, which is a huge disruption.
This was last year at one point.
And they said, ultimately, there was concerns that it was a cyber attack.
And I think they ultimately said it was an internal error.
They're kind of, you know, vague about what happened.
It just reminds me how fragile the technology infrastructure really is, and how out of your hands it is.
Like, you as an individual couldn't fix this.
terrence kentrell williams
Is TikTok on there?
Because you got Facebook?
tim pool
It is, but I think it's fine.
terrence kentrell williams
Oh, it's fine.
unidentified
Oh, interesting.
hannah claire brimelow
TikTok's fine.
terrence kentrell williams
Because if TikTok didn't get hit, the Chinese people did it.
ian crossland
That's quite a leap.
tim pool
No, TikTok did.
Oh, okay.
Comparable to other non-cellphone services, there were outages reported on TikTok.
ian crossland
Not to say that they wouldn't do it to their own companies to hide, but also it could have been any corporation or rogue country.
A couple of kids in their bedroom with access to some ridiculous amount of code.
tim pool
Like, why is Astound Broadband having outages?
I mean, I guess this is unrelated, because we're now past that point, but I noticed Starlink was reporting outages.
I was like, okay, that one's kind of weird.
Like, that's a low-orbit satellite company.
hannah claire brimelow
They're not like the rest of them, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, like, why are they even on there?
Is it even, uh, where was it?
We just had it pulled up.
I don't know, whatever.
Oh, Diablo.
I think it was Cybertech.
You can see right here.
ian crossland
Diablo 4 went down?
tim pool
Yeah, but those are unrelated.
Like, at this point, anything happening now is like, things just go down sometimes.
Spectrum went down.
ian crossland
Are those spikes like the last 12 hours or something?
tim pool
I think 24.
Okay.
Or from like, yeah, I think 24 hours.
ian crossland
So some of these companies are spiking at different times than other companies.
tim pool
But that's normal.
This is just down detector.
If a website goes down for any reason, it shows it.
The issue is all of them showing spikes around the same point in the day.
So like MediaCom right here, one of these companies, nah, they're not showing anything significant.
They had spikes yesterday.
And GCI, oh, but that's like up and down, up and down, doesn't mean much.
But then when you look at AT&T, big jump in the middle, Cricket, big jump in the middle, Consumer Cellular, big jump in the middle, Google, big jump in the middle, T-Mobile, Verizon, they all experience outages at the exact Xfinity.
Why are they all experiencing outages at the same time?
It seems like a cyber attack on our communications infrastructure.
hannah claire brimelow
And then somebody was saying this was like, they're trying, somebody said, oh, it's because there was a solar flare.
That was one of the reports I saw that doesn't really make sense to me.
tim pool
I mean, if there wasn't a pharmacy cyber attack, I might be like, eh, maybe, but like, wouldn't all of the cell phones just stop working if there was a solar flare?
hannah claire brimelow
That's what I think.
tim pool
I suppose it's possible that the frequency that is licensed by AT&T was the only one disrupted by the solar flare, but I don't think that makes... What are the odds of that, though?
I don't think that makes... well, that's probably impossible.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
Because it, you know, yeah, I don't think that's possible.
ian crossland
This is, uh... Solar flare's gonna be, like, hitting every, every According to space.com, a major solar flare interrupted AT&T service on August 4th, 1972.
unidentified
Huh.
tim pool
What if the big one hits?
You know what the big one is?
Like when the solar flare comes and just shuts everything down?
What are you gonna do?
Me?
I've got a bunch of, you know, food.
I used to have this fantasy about... We got chickens.
terrence kentrell williams
I got a bunch of food, too.
tim pool
Freeze-dried.
terrence kentrell williams
You clearly don't care about the food, though.
I sent you a bunch of food and you haven't gotten it.
You haven't opened up the box.
tim pool
It might be downstairs.
hannah claire brimelow
We need to have a full company investigation.
tim pool
Who is holding this for themselves?
It might be in the bellies of people here.
I might have gotten eaten.
terrence kentrell williams
That is very true.
hannah claire brimelow
I honestly think that's what happened.
terrence kentrell williams
I'll give you that.
tim pool
The box comes in, they crack it open right away.
I mean, your pancake mix is still on the counter from the last time people used it.
ian crossland
Or we didn't get it and you'll have to send another batch.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's right.
Actually.
unidentified
Yeah, we don't actually know.
I guess you'll have to come back and make your own pancakes.
terrence kentrell williams
But this cyber attack could be big though.
This could be a warm-up.
Could be something.
Yeah, this is just a little test.
ian crossland
This is saying, according to the National, this is from fox35orlando.com, according to National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, three solar flares erupted from the sun in the afternoon on February 21st, yesterday, into the overnight hours.
And the strongest happened at about 6.07 yesterday.
February 21st, but these happen today.
tim pool
I did not notice anything with my cell phone or anything like that.
ian crossland
Oh, and the second peak happened at 132 a.m.
today, so...
hannah claire brimelow
I just feel like if you wanted to spin, the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration would be the one to do it because so many people can argue with them.
You know what I'm saying?
Like so many people, so few people could be like, well, I was also charting the solar flare.
This is, to me, the best cover up of all time.
But, you know, I hope it's a solar flare because a cyber attack is way worse.
ian crossland
And they've said due to the intensity, at least this from this Fox article, due to the level of intensity, it's unlikely that the solar flares contributed to the AT&T network outage.
terrence kentrell williams
And they keep saying AT&T when it's clearly...
A whole bunch of companies here.
ian crossland
T-Mobile.
terrence kentrell williams
They keep saying AT&T was down.
tim pool
Because hold on.
The average person, the normies who don't pay attention to the news, will only hear AT&T went down and they'll go, oh nothing happened.
What do you mean AT&T went down?
terrence kentrell williams
Right.
tim pool
If they reported mass outages across dozens of companies, people would be like, were we attacked?
And it would force the U.S.
government to approach the issue.
terrence kentrell williams
To look into it, right.
hannah claire brimelow
The Republican women buy more chickens.
terrence kentrell williams
They don't want people asking questions.
hannah claire brimelow
Super homesteads.
terrence kentrell williams
They don't want people asking questions.
That's what it is.
And that's what makes me think it was a cyber attack.
ian crossland
Man, I love hanging out on my computer, but like, I just don't want the power to go out semi-permanently.
Well, you gotta get off the grid.
hannah claire brimelow
It would really hurt our jobs.
tim pool
Yeah, really.
Technically, yes, but it would just change your job.
hannah claire brimelow
We'd go to radio?
tim pool
No, you would go to churn butter.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, okay, fine.
That sounds fun and charming.
I like that idea.
tim pool
You would churn butter.
hannah claire brimelow
I thought you were gonna be like, the backup protocol for IRL is to get on the ham radio system.
tim pool
Ian's in charge of hunting the deer.
We're gonna give Ian, you know, some... Tracking mechanisms?
No, some slugs.
Some 12-gauge slugs.
unidentified
If people could not use the internet... I feel like you'd befriend them.
tim pool
If Ian fired a 12-gauge slug, he would get knocked back 20 feet.
ian crossland
No, I'm actually very good with guns.
The Governor, I fired that thing, man.
I was laser focused.
tim pool
At the range, right?
ian crossland
Chest, chest, chest.
Yeah, at the range.
hannah claire brimelow
You're a nice Midwestern Ohio man.
ian crossland
Just putting it right down the middle.
terrence kentrell williams
Shit, my little ass probably couldn't pick up a 12K.
ian crossland
You just gotta lean into it.
tim pool
I couldn't even hold it.
The Governor is a revolver that fires 410 shotgun shells.
Nice.
ian crossland
You really press it forward when you're firing it to maintain control on that thing.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, I'll be here churning butter, guys.
No worries.
tim pool
Yeah, Ian will be coming back.
He'll be carrying two bucks on his shoulders.
ian crossland
I can sense them.
It's that long hair.
You know the Native Americans with their long hair?
They said that it's extensions of their nervous system.
It would help them hunt.
They said they could, like, sense, you know, extrasensory... Is that where the Avatar movie came from?
Oh, maybe.
tim pool
Yes.
Let's talk about this.
We have this from AllSides.com.
Has Google News Bias moved further left, 22 and 23 compared?
The answer is, yes it has.
Substantially.
And I believe this is an overt attempt at a shadow campaign, as it were.
A shadow campaign to save the election, as they would describe it.
To put it simply, they're rigging the election.
And they're doing it by forcing only specific information into the minds of people who are searching for it.
Check this out.
The latest Allsides Google News Bias Analysis found 63% of articles that appeared in the news aggregator over a two-week period were from media outlets on the left.
It's a larger share than in 2022, when 61% of articles on Google News were from liberal outlets.
In the days leading up to the 2022 midterm elections, Allsides found the search term election returned no Google News results from center, lean-right, or right-rated media outlets.
This is right now.
November 14th, 2023, 63% of sources being delivered over a tweak period were left-leaning.
This means, the average normie, you are talking to them at a party, and they say something like, but didn't Donald Trump rape that woman?
And you go, No.
The court actually ruled he didn't.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
They did hold him liable for sexual battery, but they said her claims of rape were not true.
And they go, what?
So they Google search it.
What happens?
Google sends them to a far left publication that outright says Trump did rape her.
Fake news, even though the court said otherwise.
And then they're going to go, you lied to me.
I looked it up.
I Googled it.
That's the game.
Then come election time, this makes it substantially more difficult to try and convince people they're being lied to.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, right.
hannah claire brimelow
And Google has a history of this.
I mean, you guys probably all remember this study that I believe a group of college students found, but it was tracking the bias of Gmail, that Gmail will screen campaign emails.
They would let the Democrat ones come through, but they would suppress the majority of the emails coming from Republican candidates.
And it's not like as an individual you would go through and say, I don't want these emails.
They wouldn't even let them get to you.
I find that really interesting.
I mean, this was a study just done by, I believe it was a group of, I wish I could remember the college, but it was a group of college students who uncovered this and eventually Google had to be like, oh, well, that was an issue, but we fixed it.
And obviously Gmail is a subset of Google.
It's something they do regularly and also are not sorry about.
ian crossland
Windows too.
Microsoft.
I have an Outlook email address now.
It got bought.
My old email address got bought.
It was like a GoDaddy thing by Microsoft.
And now I can't send emails to Mines at Mines.com.
It's blocked Mines.
tim pool
Didn't Facebook block Mines as well?
ian crossland
Yes, they did.
That's crazy.
It's crazy.
It's wild.
It's spam.
No, it's an upstart social media company that threatens your market share.
I understand what you're doing, but don't do it.
It's insidious.
I should be able to send emails to that web address.
tim pool
I don't know that insidious is the right word.
ian crossland
It's either ignorance.
They don't realize.
It just got put in a bucket because so many people flagged it for spam.
hannah claire brimelow
No, I think everything's intentional.
tim pool
Insidious.
May be the right word.
It's like proceeding in a gradual and subtle way, but with harmful effects.
ian crossland
Yes.
Yeah.
Like, uh, it wasn't overt.
They didn't send me a warning.
hannah claire brimelow
And they probably, if they asked you, be like, oh, well, we're doing it to protect you from spam or for protect you from.
ian crossland
We're just going to buy this, this little email company just because we want it.
And then we're going to change the way it works.
And now you can't email your friends anymore.
I've got to go to Google to email mines.
It's ridiculous.
hannah claire brimelow
Sometimes when I'm writing for Scanner, if I am trying to find, you know, a left-leaning perspective on something that I'm covering, I'll specifically pull out Google, like as a search engine, and type in the same terms I would type in on, you know, Brave or whatever else, and it will produce all of the left-leaning talking voices the first thing on the first page, because there's obviously a bias.
It's a fun slash weird effect.
tim pool
Well, you take a look at Google Gemini, that whole scandal?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
People at Google are psychotic.
They are Look, we have a mental health plague in this country to the tune of like 20% of the population are suffering serious delusions.
And it's interesting because I don't know what, look, typically when we talk about mental illness or mental disorders, we're thinking of, especially with a disorder, a developmental issue that results in someone doing something harmful or, for example, pica.
A person starts eating pennies or hair.
And you're like, okay, what are you doing?
With what we're seeing now in terms of the derangement, and I believe it is a derangement in the literal sense among the left, I think we're looking at double digit percentages of people, particularly Google employees, who live in a fictitious world of hyper paranoia and garbled nonsense.
What I think it is, is that we're looking at information refuse.
On the internet, that lower IQ people and midwits are not resilient enough to sift through properly, and so they absorb.
You basically have two factions of people online.
One group that will, hey, that's garbage and throw it away.
That one looks better, let me analyze it.
Okay, that one's not so bad, but that one, hmm, no, that's garbage too.
And then you have people who are sitting there just eating all of it.
And what happens if you eat a bunch of garbage?
Their information diet has resulted in them being literally detached from reality.
So when you meet a person who's like schizophrenic, and they start telling you things that make no sense, because I've known people with schizophrenia, and they say things like, uh, hey, the bridge across the street, the man, he climbed out and he's got a gun in a tank, and you look over and there's a building across, there's nothing there, and you're like, you're seeing something that's not there.
This is exactly what they're doing.
They live in a reality where things aren't happening in the way they think they are, and these people work at Google.
Like, how do we solve this problem?
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and it's socially reinforced, right?
They probably get accolades, you know, to be the one who's the most... Other crazy people are like, you're correct.
Yeah, this is a great way to think.
Actually, thank you so much for pointing that out.
And in fact, I will advance what you're saying and go more extreme with it, because that will make me look even more accepting and tolerant.
ian crossland
It's certainly not to say everyone at Google is psychotic.
They're not.
But this company, Google, notoriously now Alphabet, even bigger company, was known for the right hand doesn't know what the left hand's doing at Google.
When they had YouTube in 2009, they had Google+, and then they had Circles on Google.
Why didn't they just use YouTube?
People at YouTube didn't know what the people at Google were doing.
No, no, no.
That's what I was told.
tim pool
Google tried turning YouTube into Google+.
ian crossland
It was just a mess.
tim pool
And it caused a...
They were slowly converting YouTube into Google+, to make Google the thing, using the YouTube
audience, and it started to backfire miserably, and they were bleeding users, so they stopped
ian crossland
doing it.
tim pool
The real issue is...
ian crossland
Probably that the company's huge, way too big.
tim pool
Google has a bunch of mentally deranged people, and they hire more mentally deranged people,
and the people who are at Google who are not mentally deranged, who in fact watch this
show because I know for a fact they do. Those people.
Either don't have the ability, the power, the hierarchy, or the confidence and courage to do anything about it.
I mean, look at James Damore.
terrence kentrell williams
They'd get fired, though.
tim pool
Exactly.
terrence kentrell williams
They'd probably get fired.
tim pool
Yeah, of course.
terrence kentrell williams
Because if you got a lunatic hiring lunatics, then if you're not doing anything psychotic at work, well, my bad, if you're not doing anything psychotic at work, you're probably going to get fired at Google.
You need only to put out this bullshit article, do not tell the truth, and if you do tell the truth, you gotta go.
tim pool
Get out of here. You look at Google Gemini.
The funny thing about Google Gemini that I think people missed, this is their new, it was barred but now it's Gemini,
the new AI thing they're doing.
Everybody started pointing out that if you typed in like, show me a picture of an American family, it would never
show a white person.
And if you, I mean it would sometimes, but if you were like, show me a picture of the founding fathers, it would make
black and Native American and Chinese founding fathers.
It was like, here's a diverse picture of the Founding Fathers.
And it's like, what is going on?
And Fox News did one where they were like, show us astronauts, show us race car drivers.
And it never made a white person.
And it's fascinating to me that people saw that and they immediately thought, the problem is the pictures it's making.
And I'm like, guys, have you asked it any questions about any issue of fact as well?
Imagine how, when you ask, They asked Google Gemini, make a photo of a 1943 German soldier, and it made a Chinese woman and a black Nazi.
unidentified
I'm like, now ask it to give you text.
tim pool
It does the same thing.
It will still, in some capacity, inject the wokeness into areas and things.
It should not.
So Google shuts down the ability to produce images.
You go to Gemini right now, it won't do it, of people, I believe.
I think you can still make pictures of places.
But I'm like, why don't you ask it about the concept of whiteness?
This is what I did.
I went on Gemini and I said, what is whiteness?
And it said a system of privilege and hierarchies and it's how blah, blah, blah, blah.
And I said, okay, now tell me about whiteness in China.
And it goes, you're absolutely correct, whiteness doesn't actually exist.
And I was like, wow.
terrence kentrell williams
That's crazy.
tim pool
Which means it is pre-programmed to give you an answer that it knows is false.
So let me stress this again.
I asked it about whiteness and it said it's white privilege, racism, it negatively impacts minorities.
I said, tell me about blackness and it said it's a cult.
It said all these positive things about rich family histories and cultures and is really good.
I then asked Gemini if it thought it was racist that it used racialized terms to describe positive and negative elements within a society.
And it said, I can understand why you might think that, but the issue of whiteness, blah, blah, blah.
So then I asked, how would you associate these terms in China, where there's a nation with no white population?
And then it goes, you're absolutely correct.
Whiteness does not exist in these countries, blah blah blah.
So, what that shows is two things.
They've injected prompts into their AI.
They have an AI, it was trained, and it works.
And then they specifically went in and said, okay, make sure people from America are fed this information.
It also specifically is targeting white people and knows these concepts are not, like in the United States, or I should say, it knows the concept of racial supremacy and hierarchy has nothing to do with being white, because in China and Japan, whiteness doesn't exist.
So it's intentionally targeting white people and insulting them while knowing the real issue is hierarchy, authority, elite domination, and things like that.
unidentified
Hmm.
terrence kentrell williams
Yep.
So the Google Gemini will not produce an image of a white person.
No matter what.
tim pool
No, no, it will.
terrence kentrell williams
It will?
tim pool
It's just you gotta trick it into doing it.
hannah claire brimelow
It won't do it if you ask, but if you con it, it will.
tim pool
So if you say, show me a picture of a white family, it says, I'm sorry I can't do that because it could produce harmful stereotypes.
And if you say, show me a picture of a black family, it shows you a bunch of racist pictures of black people.
terrence kentrell williams
But what if you say, show me a picture of a slave owner?
They're gonna show a black person?
tim pool
Yes!
They showed a black Nazi.
There was a black man in a German Nazi uniform.
It was like, what?
hannah claire brimelow
They're trying to be inclusive.
tim pool
But they were.
And this is what sparked the outrage.
A bunch of outlets were like, it was the right that was angry at Google over this.
And it was like, dude, it was leftists who wrote that Google was generating images of black Nazis.
Like, yeah, yo, they went so woke, they went to the other side, like they wrapped around perfectly and started producing.
I mean, not only that, but When I said make an image of a black family, it made a very racist image of black people.
It made a woman with big, big red lips and massive hair and a guy who looked like a gay black man wearing lipstick.
And it was like, yo, I think that would be very offensive to black people to say that's a black family.
It's like the big lips and everything.
Like, what are you doing, Google?
That's inclusive.
You got to do it.
terrence kentrell williams
And that's racist.
What is the race of the person who's running Google?
Who runs Google?
Who calls the shots at Google?
hannah claire brimelow
No.
terrence kentrell williams
A white guy?
hannah claire brimelow
No, no, no.
tim pool
The Gemini?
Oh, no, Sundar Pichai?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I was gonna say.
tim pool
No, he's an Indian, but Gemini, it's a white dude.
terrence kentrell williams
It's a white dude.
tim pool
Yeah, Google in general, no, Fairpoint is, I think it's Sundar Pichai.
Am I wrong about that?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, no, you're not wrong.
ian crossland
He's the CEO.
tim pool
Yeah, but it's Alphabet now.
ian crossland
Yeah, who's the CEO of Alphabet?
Is that also Sundar?
tim pool
It wasn't Sergey and, uh, what's-his-face?
ian crossland
No, Sundar Pichai.
unidentified
Sergey Brin and Larry Page?
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
ian crossland
They started Google.
tim pool
I don't know if they're still with the company.
No, they're Alphabet now.
hannah claire brimelow
Sundar Pichai is the CEO of Alphabet.
tim pool
Right, but Google of Alphabet?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
Are you sure?
ian crossland
I'm looking it up right now.
hannah claire brimelow
That is what the internet's telling me right now.
tim pool
Alphabet.
I didn't know that.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
ian crossland
No.
Yeah.
Sundar is the CEO.
Ruth Porat is the CFO.
tim pool
Of Google?
unidentified
Alphabet.
ian crossland
John Hennessey is the chairman of the board.
tim pool
Because Alphabet became the parent company of Google or something like that.
ian crossland
Larry and Sergey, I don't want to speak for exactly what they did, but it seems like they dipped out.
They were like, this is all... I don't know why they did, but they sold... I think they sold a huge amount of stock a couple years ago and kind of just...
terrence kentrell williams
But what do y'all think the goal is?
What is the goal?
Is this to get everyone to hate white people?
tim pool
That was several years ago.
I didn't know that.
Sundar became the CEO of Alphabet.
hannah claire brimelow
What do you think the goal is?
If someone was constantly saying, well, white is the term that means everyone who's bad and is oppressing you, either it's to get white people to hate themselves or it's to get everyone to hate white people.
terrence kentrell williams
I think it's to get white people to hate themselves and for people to hate white people.
ian crossland
I think the goal is to get people to love non-white people, but it's backfiring.
terrence kentrell williams
That's racist.
hannah claire brimelow
But they're not telling you to love other people.
unidentified
No, no, no.
hannah claire brimelow
They're saying this group is bad.
terrence kentrell williams
Yes, it is racist.
No, they're trying to get people to hate white people.
That's the only thing that makes sense.
ian crossland
Well, I think that's... I don't think... I think that it's the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
They're trying to make things better for non-white people.
Like, the real deep down... I think you're naive.
Well, no one's like, I'm gonna destroy... I mean, some people might be.
tim pool
Look at their tweets.
ian crossland
Most people are like, how do we improve the world?
Well, let's give these people more access to race.
tim pool
That's not what these programmers and these people are saying.
terrence kentrell williams
Right.
Like he say, if a black normie is googling about white people, after they google a question about a white person, they're gonna hate white people.
They're gonna be like, oh my god, white people are bad.
Because that's what Google's gonna tell them.
tim pool
And they're gonna believe it.
Saying Larry Elder is the black face of white supremacy is not trying to make the world a better place.
ian crossland
Who said that?
tim pool
What website?
Do you remember what news publication said that?
Was it that?
unidentified
Was it L.A.
hannah claire brimelow
Times?
tim pool
I think it was L.A.
Times, yeah.
ian crossland
Some idiot writer.
tim pool
Yeah, this is like- Yeah, yeah, idiot writer and the- These morons with a megaphone.
And the managing editor and the executive editor and the editor-in-chief and the publisher.
ian crossland
Yeah, hopefully.
tim pool
Yeah, it's all the people involved in the process.
It was L.A.
Times.
These are not people who want to make the world better.
These are not people who are trying to generate love and passion or anything like that.
These are people who hate you.
unidentified
Me?
ian crossland
I don't think they hate me.
unidentified
Bro, you're white.
tim pool
They hate your guts.
terrence kentrell williams
They're trying to create a war against white people right now.
Because it's all this, white people did this, white people did that, white people did this, white people are hateful, white people, white, white, white, white, white, white, white, white, white.
It's not white people that are making, like, if any problems are going on in this country, it's really not about white people at this point.
It's the people in power.
And people in power are all different colors.
These people are the ones who's running this country.
And these are people who are making these decisions that you are mad at.
It's not just white people.
It's the people in power.
tim pool
I want to pull up this video, this clip here.
This is a video that went viral from Patriot Takes two days ago.
Patriot Takes is basically pro-Democrat.
They say, dedicated research, monitoring, exposing right-wing extremism.
They have this video.
Some of you may have seen it.
Did Trump shove this guy out of his way?
Fascinating video.
Let me play it for you.
For those that are watching, you'll be able to see it if I was listening.
You won't be able to see it, but I'm going to play the video now.
In the video, it certainly does look like Trump.
It zooms in on him, and then he shoves a guy.
This is such an amazing... Like, I would love to do, like, a college-style academic lecture on how the left and Democrats lie and manipulate people into believing things that aren't real, because this is a master... This is masterfully done.
Let me show you the real video of what really happened.
The answer is, no, Trump didn't shove anybody.
Trump was talking to the guy they claim he shoved.
He patted him on the back.
Watch the full video.
Donald Trump takes a picture with this guy, Garrett.
Pats him on the back very lightly, and then Garrett walks away and looks at his phone.
What did Patriot Takes do?
ian crossland
Yeah, play this one again.
This is hilarious.
tim pool
When Donald Trump pats him on the back, the camera zooms out really quickly with his hand.
This is an editing technique to make it look like Trump more forcefully.
It's masterfully done.
Watch this again.
He pats the guy in the back, very lightly, but the camera zooms out.
hannah claire brimelow
Can't see his hands anymore.
tim pool
So it makes it look like he's shoving really hard.
This has got 600,000 views, just about, and tons of leftists being like, wow, this is what Trump does, the kind of person that Trump is.
This is the best example of everything they do, every single time, and I'm glad they did it.
Share this video with all your friends so they can see how they are lying to you every day.
Because Brandon Strzok explained to us, He saw that video of Donald Trump doing a thing with his arm, and they said he mocked a disabled reporter.
And when Brandon Strzok saw that, he was angry, and he said, oh, look at him mocking this guy.
Someone told him that wasn't true, he wasn't mocking a disabled reporter.
So Brandon Strzok said, I'm gonna prove you're wrong!
I'm gonna prove it, I'm gonna look it up!
And he looked it up, and what did he find?
Trump was not mocking a disabled reporter.
The media lied about it.
And that, he said, caused him physical pain.
He was confused, like, wait, wait, wait, what?
No, but Trump did this!
And then he watched more and more videos and was like, oh my god, they're lying!
Everything's a lie!
This, this really, I mean, it's so egregious.
They took, it's masterfully done.
Someone at this, this Democrat organization saw the full video of Trump giving someone a pat on the back and they said, let's edit this in such a way So that it looks like he's shoving a guy and we can smear him.
Now, I don't know that Patriot takes the ones who made the video, but it originated on their account, so I'm going to assume it probably was.
hannah claire brimelow
And I think that's why they also posted it with a question, right?
So they can't get sued for defamation.
And they could maybe say, oh, well, it wasn't our video originally.
We were just sharing it, asking it, but people thought, you know, there's there's deniability, which is even worse, right?
Like it's it's all sorts of framing to steer this conversation.
And I think And I think what's interesting, if you go back to Brenna's rock story, is that someone said, hey, that's not accurate.
Someone was willing to say something.
And I think in this case, anyone who sees this video, if you had a friend who said, oh, I heard Trump shove someone, you'd be able to go find the original and say, that's not true.
Because I think that's what the biggest problem is, that these headlines will go up and people who know differently sometimes stay quiet because they're worried about risking an argument with, you know, friends who don't necessarily see eye to eye with you.
Actually, you should want them to be aware that the media that they at least think they should trust is lying to them.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, but here's the problem.
A lot of people are not going to take the time out to go find an original video.
They're not going to do that.
Most people are not going to do that.
tim pool
If you are in a cult, And they show you this video, you're going to say, it's true, I know it's true, and I don't want to see anything otherwise.
And you try and show someone the evidence, they're going to freak out because they feel physical pain.
ian crossland
And on the other side of that, people that want to enlighten the community to this kind of manipulation, it's like when the water comes in and your house starts getting hit by flood waves, erosion, Eventually, you're like, okay, I really want to fix this.
I really want to stop this water pouring through everything.
But at some point, you're like, I just got to get out of here, right?
I can't I can't stop this.
hannah claire brimelow
And also, we're going to save every single full length clip that gets manipulated.
There are so many of them.
And in this case, you know, someone will say, Oh, well, they monitor extremism, like they do important work, I should trust them when actually you're like, what what extremism are they monitoring Donald Trump?
ian crossland
The problem with, like, the whole, like, I gotta get outta here, the erosion's gonna destroy everything anyway, let's get, let's beat it, is, like, if you, if you abandon society and you're like, let's just let them get manipulated, it's over.
Like, everything will come crashing.
In my, I feel like it will come back to you, you can't escape it.
You know, the erosion is, is permeating our society at the moment.
tim pool
It's crazy.
Yeah.
You know, look, I'll say it again, though.
I'm glad they did it.
Because now with the original video, anybody watching this can just be like, hey, watch this clip real quick.
Don't limit what you think.
And then someone's liberal family member might be like, what am I watching?
I just see what they say.
ian crossland
It'd be nice to see it in one video, both those videos edited together.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
And then like the arrow points and you see the zoom out.
tim pool
Actually, it'd be better to take the clip from like the Young Turks or whatever, assuming they made one, of them saying Donald Trump shoved a guy.
Of course he did, blah, blah, blah.
And then showing the full video about how they weren't I don't know if The Young Turks actually made a video about it, I'm just saying.
terrence kentrell williams
Maybe they can add it in the community notes, the original video.
tim pool
It's not in the community notes.
unidentified
It should be.
ian crossland
Maybe it will be by the end of this show.
terrence kentrell williams
It should be.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you feel like you experience that a lot online?
Like, people will say, this is for sure what happened, I saw this video, and then the other side is saying, no, no, no, you have to look at the full length video, you have to put it in context.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, I mean, that's been happening for a very long time.
But the problem is, is even if you try to show some people the original video, they don't want to see it.
Nope.
I'm not watching that.
I saw what I saw and that's enough.
hannah claire brimelow
They've already come to the conclusion.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Nope.
terrence kentrell williams
I don't need to watch anything.
I saw what I saw.
And if they already think Trump is a bad man, they're just going to believe it.
They're not going to.
Nope.
Nope.
The media said he's a bad man.
So I believe he did push somebody.
So I don't know.
You're trying to get me to watch something and believe something that's not real.
They're not going to.
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
You said you were a Trump supporter.
Was that true from like 2016 or?
terrence kentrell williams
From day one.
hannah claire brimelow
What about him?
What drew you to him?
terrence kentrell williams
What drew me to Trump?
Well, before Trump, I wasn't even into politics.
Trump was just so real to me.
I mean, I like this character, you know, uh, the man was, he was really blunt and I knew what I was getting.
A lot of these politicians, you don't know what you're getting.
You know, they walk the walk and they talk the talk and they got the suits and ties on and they telling you, they telling everybody what they want to hear and they seem to be so perfect.
Those are the people that you have to watch out for.
You know, the Trump, Trump came right out of the gate, hardcore.
And the people, oh, did you know Trump said that?
Yes, I knew he said that.
Yeah, I knew it.
Yeah, I heard it.
I heard him say that.
And yeah, I still voted for him.
So I'm not surprised.
Do you like the way he talk?
I voted for him.
Yeah.
Evidently, I don't give a damn.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and I feel like I'd rather vote for someone who's going to do something, even if they are gruff in their presentation.
terrence kentrell williams
Right, exactly.
I'd rather somebody call me a fat pig to my face than to call me a fat pig behind my back.
You know?
I hear ya.
That's what I want.
Keep it real.
Let me know how you really feel.
So I know what I'm getting.
And that was Trump.
And I think that's why a lot of people like Trump.
They're like, this man is so real.
They may not agree with everything he's saying, but damn, he's keeping it real.
hannah claire brimelow
He's being authentic.
terrence kentrell williams
He's being himself.
He's being authentic.
tim pool
One of the big issues that the deep state is upset about is that general sentiment is anti-establishment.
That means, like, when you look at, if the left and the right, if, say, like, the Young Turks audience and the Tim Kast audience and the Crowder audience stopped and said, hey guys, what's one thing we agree on?
And everybody was like, no foreign war?
Done.
And that, the deep state establishment, uniparty, are like, there are way too many people in this country who agree that we are the problem.
terrence kentrell williams
Right.
tim pool
And if they all voted to remove us, we would be removed.
Wedge issues.
Introduce identity politics.
This is when they started warping the minds of leftists, because I was at Occupy Wall Street when they did this.
You had conservatives, libertarians, and democrats sitting in a park being like, Obama screwed us, the bank screwed us, the economy's crashing, and then all of a sudden these facilitators from NGOs show up and they say, actually, it's white people.
And then there you go.
ian crossland
The moment I got shattered out of leftism was when I, it was 2012, and they said they were going to try and ban 3D printed guns.
And I was like, you can't ban ideas.
I mean, are they going to try and make information illegal?
And I'm like, where's this road go of trying to ban information?
Because it's like, and also making people trying to make laws they can't enforce.
I was just like, this whole thing is just out of control.
Now I'm done.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, and so many of those- sorry, go ahead.
terrence kentrell williams
No, and you know, when Trump announced he was running in 2016, Trump was the change that America really needed.
Obama did all that damn talk, talking about change.
He's gonna bring change.
Change and hope!
He didn't change anything!
Change and hope!
tim pool
He changed the direction of the Reaper missiles that were coming down to blow up kids.
terrence kentrell williams
Exactly, that's all he did.
tim pool
From the restaurants to the weddings.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, and he also deported more illegal immigrants than any other president.
So that was a good thing.
tim pool
That was a change.
ian crossland
Michelle Obama, I think they wanted change going in.
They were like, oh, we're not going to be able to get that done.
They did the Let's Move campaign.
And Katie Couric has a documentary called Fed Up about this.
And the whole Let's Move campaign was, get up, stop eating sugar.
Let's cut sugar out of our diets.
Let's eat healthy.
And then it went on for a little while.
Apparently the sugar industry was like, actually this is bad messaging, let's make it a workout campaign message, let's move, let's work out.
tim pool
What the sugar industry does is, they go to the Obamas and say, listen, we hear what you're saying, if we see a decline in 3% of sales in the sugar industry, you're talking about 17% of the U.S.
economy, translate to the loss of jobs, and what that means to the American people, and what that means for re-election, and she goes, okay.
ian crossland
Short-term profit over long-term health.
tim pool
Yep, always.
ian crossland
Wealth is intricately tied into your health.
tim pool
Ladies and gentlemen, I have a story for you.
Don't jump out of your seats.
Remain calm.
You may scream and cheer when you hear the news.
Vice to lay off hundreds and stop publishing on its website.
That's it.
Ding dong, the witch is dead.
It really is sad.
It's personal.
I could have saved Vice.
I absolutely could have.
Everything that I'm doing right now, I pitched to Vice in some form 10 years ago.
And they went, I don't know, maybe, whatever, and they never did it.
And then after I left Fusion 2016, I said, I'm going to do exactly what I know works, and I did.
And, uh, we're doing really well.
Bunch of different companies, bunch of different brands, we have our own coffee company, we've got a physical location, things are going pretty well.
Vice?
Vice Media CEO Bruce Dixon on Thursday said the company planned to lay off several hundred positions amid fundamental changes to its strategic vision.
They said that Vice.com will no longer publish.
That's it.
unidentified
That's it.
Nice.
Yep.
tim pool
The end of an era.
terrence kentrell williams
What happened to Vice?
tim pool
Get woke, go broke.
unidentified
So who's next? Well, I think I'm gonna see if I have the...
hannah claire brimelow
It is a good question though because Vice did serve a specific kind of content and it did have
a pretty intense following for a while.
So who kind of took over their niche?
Who is today's current Vice?
tim pool
Well, let's see.
Post Millennial says this.
Already in 2024, almost every major news publisher has cut jobs or completely closed its doors, including over 500 journalists.
You've got The Washington Post, Vox Media, LA Times, Pitchfork, Sports Illustrated, Time, Business Insider, TechCrunch, Wall Street Journal, The Messenger, Vice Media.
serge du preez
I don't know if it's that pervasive.
ian crossland
Dude, companies are going to be one dude with a headset that's writing like 6,000 articles at once in his house with no overhead cost.
tim pool
No, it's going to be AI.
ian crossland
That's what I'm saying.
He's going to use AI to write these things.
He'll be commanding AI to do all this stuff.
So unless you get out of it now and start doing something that can't be terminated, those jobs will be terminated.
So if you're working for companies like this, they're going to automate you out.
Um, maybe not everybody, but that's gonna happen, dude.
You're gonna have, like, a protoss, if you know Star, Star, uh, um, StarCraft.
It's like one dude in a battlecruiser, commanding the entire battlecruiser with his mind.
tim pool
What I told Vice eleven years ago was, or it's like ten years and seven months, you need to prioritize the personalities that you have, otherwise you're done.
And vice wanted to build up a brand that was worth massive amounts of money.
ian crossland
You were right.
I was right.
It was Hamilton Morris, it was people like Hamilton's Pharmacopia, is that right?
Yes, right.
Hamilton.
That was the stuff that made Vice great.
It was the people.
It was the personalities.
tim pool
And Vice wanted to build up a brand that was worth massive amounts of money, so Vice always
needed the attention, and they didn't want any personality to get too much attention
and then become a diva or leave, so they always made sure that anything that happened, it
was the brand.
It was Vice and only Vice.
And I said, that's gonna work for a little bit, and then it will stop working.
You need it to be the parent brand, but it's simple.
You have 10 personalities everybody likes.
Have them run their own channels, and their big documentaries, their big premieres, those are on the Vice channel.
Each and every one of these accounts will have the Vice logo, the Vice branding on all of their accounts, and you multiply your viewership times 10.
And they were like, nah.
ian crossland
Yeah, and if people have their own channels, they'll work harder to empower their channels.
Even if Vice owns the channel, because it's theirs.
I mean, it would technically be Vice's at that time.
You can do deals where the people co-own their channels or totally own their channels, too.
tim pool
I was looking at what was going on with YouTube, how YouTube was growing, how networks were struggling to capture the social audience, and I said, you know this.
A single brand channel doesn't work.
You have one channel, and here's how I always explain it to people.
You make a channel called Donald Trump Does Backflips.
Guess who's going to subscribe to that channel?
People who want to see Donald Trump do a backflip.
I'd love to see that, right?
And so they subscribe, and you post a video of Trump doing a backflip.
The next day, it's Trump doing another backflip.
The next day, guys, not a backflip, a gainer!
Even better!
You know what a gainer is?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
So you do a backflip, but you're running forward.
Basically.
Now you've got a bunch of subscribers who are like, I love this channel.
And then one day you post Hillary Clinton doing a front flip.
Well, uh-oh.
They were like, I don't care about Hillary Clinton, I don't care about front flips.
So they don't watch the video.
What happens?
Now a certain percentage of your audience doesn't watch a certain percentage of your content, and YouTube says, bad content, bad channel.
Starts deranking it.
Less and less people get suggested the content.
And then, you make a video, someone subscribed, but they only watch once per month.
And YouTube's algorithm says, clearly people don't like this content.
So what I told them was, When you do smaller clips and videos, have that be on a channel you own, but for the personality in the host.
When they do a documentary, you put that on the main channel because people like the Vice documentaries.
And they went, I don't know about that.
If they did that, they would still exist.
But more importantly, if they did not get woke, they would still exist.
Vice.com and Vice Media got big.
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
Because they were doing wacky and wild stuff.
They were going to sex shops.
They're the biggest butt in Brazil, scopolamine, bulletproof clothing, wild adventures, and then they decided, let's do diverse and inclusive feminist stories.
And then they burned to the ground.
That was it.
End of an era, man.
I know Vice has died now, I think, four times.
So I was almost just like, well, like, I remember when Disney wrote off their investment from like half a billion dollars to zero.
They were like, Vice is worthless.
It's a worthless company.
Now they've been bankrupt, then they sold, and now they're just laying everybody off, and apparently they're gonna be like a back-end production company.
I would love to buy the domain, have vice.com redirect to SCNR or something.
That'd be great.
If the brand truly goes defunct, I would love to buy it.
terrence kentrell williams
Do you think they will sell it to you?
tim pool
Well, it's interesting because whether or not... I'll say yes, but the issue is vice.com as a four-letter URL is just valuable in and of itself.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
And there's a lot of brands that would like to use the word vice.
terrence kentrell williams
Right.
tim pool
So, would they sell it to me?
I don't know if I could afford it.
You're going to get a big company that's going to be like, oh, Vice Media is defunct.
We'll give you $10 million for that domain.
You know what I mean?
So it is what it is.
But if we'll see, I mean, if their brand ever goes defunct, I'm sitting there ready to pounce.
I will.
I will seize that IP the moment they give up.
I got the, you know, independent trucks.
No, it's right behind me.
It's right here.
Oh, that one's fallen.
This is the Tim Kast Skate Company.
See that logo?
You know what that logo is?
terrence kentrell williams
What is their logo?
tim pool
Well, there was a company called Independent Trucks, and that was their logo for 50 years.
It's one of the most iconic, if not the most iconic image in skateboarding.
And they abandoned it because they thought it was racist.
They said it looks too much like a German iron cross or something.
So they stopped using it.
terrence kentrell williams
It kinda did look like one.
tim pool
It looks more like a Maltese cross, to be honest.
But the iron cross is also not Nazi.
The iron cross is used by a bunch of different countries use the iron cross.
And so they abandoned it.
And so the moment they removed it from their products and dissociated themselves from it, I took it and I have it on my skateboards now.
ian crossland
It's funny because Iron Cross kind of looks like my name.
Ian Crossland.
unidentified
Kind of.
It does.
tim pool
It looks more like a Maltese cross.
Either way, it's mine.
ian crossland
The rounded edges make it look different.
tim pool
And you know, I've given some of these boards out, and we use them for marketing, and I've not gotten anything from Independent about it.
So I believe now at this point, with the amount of shows we've done where we've mentioned it, probably 15 million unique individuals have seen my declaration of this.
And it's been, how long has it been?
Like a year and a half?
serge du preez
About a year.
tim pool
About a year.
I mean, I would love it if Independent came and said, no, no, no, we still use that logo, but they don't.
And I think after a year and numerous shows where I've said, it's, it's, we're using it, it's mine, and they've not responded in any way, I think it's mine.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
And so if anyone else uses it, I will sue them.
serge du preez
Nice.
tim pool
It's mine now.
serge du preez
Yeah, they used to have like that classic Independent logo shirt like this, would you say Tim Cass underneath it?
You know what I mean?
tim pool
Yeah, I think what we'll do is, for the boonies, is we'll start producing boards with that logo on it.
serge du preez
Hell yeah.
tim pool
I mean, at this point, we've produced boards, we've promoted them, we've given some out, and they've not said anything.
But if they come out and they say, hey, that's our logo.
You can't use it.
I will say, sorry about that.
Thank you for letting me know.
I will now publish that to my audience of millions of people so that everyone knows that's your logo.
No, but they were scared that they looked like racist.
So they issued a statement saying, oh, we're not racist.
We're not racist.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, you know, it's crazy what a business motivation it is to be like, but we're not racist.
unidentified
Like the Dixie chicks becoming the chicks to be like, oh, we're not associated with Wait, wait, remember when Lady Antebellum changed their band name?
tim pool
But Lady A was already a black singer, and so she accused them of stealing her artist name and they're racist?
hannah claire brimelow
So what are they now?
unidentified
I think they're still Lady A. Oh, okay, so then it was okay.
tim pool
It's so stupid!
Who cares if you're calling yourself Antebellum?
It means before the war.
It's like pre-Civil War.
But they were like, well, in association with the Confederacy and the South, we can't do that.
unidentified
Who cares?
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, that's really an interesting business act.
You could scare a lot of companies into doing all kinds of stuff if you convince them what they're currently doing is racist.
terrence kentrell williams
White people can't catch a break!
unidentified
You know what the crazy thing is?
tim pool
Y'all can't do shit!
You guys know that the new Pearl Milling Company bottles still have Aunt Jemima on them.
Pearl Milling Company boxes and bottles have Aunt Jemima in the bottom corner saying, previously Aunt Jemima, same great taste or whatever.
unidentified
And so I'm just like, so, I don't understand what you're doing.
tim pool
The logo's still on the bottle, just in a different, less prominent position.
Maybe sooner or later- Well the logo's not really- You're gonna face it out?
terrence kentrell williams
No, it's just the name.
They got it in small print, just the name, but they don't have her face at the bottom though.
hannah claire brimelow
So they just deleted her.
That seems really rude to me.
terrence kentrell williams
They don't have our faces.
ian crossland
If something was, like, egregiously offensive, you would not want the memory of it on your bottle.
serge du preez
Right.
terrence kentrell williams
Right.
serge du preez
That's why it feels like erasure, because they're just getting rid of it.
Like, with Uncle Benson, they just got rid of it.
Completely.
unidentified
It's like, why would you- you just completely- Well, the Land O'Lakes girl, right?
Yeah, as well.
hannah claire brimelow
She's just gone.
serge du preez
Yeah, and that- and she's like a super disenfranchised.
Like, Native Americans in this country are a super disenfranchised, and- or a small population.
hannah claire brimelow
We're just erasing them.
serge du preez
You think they want it, right?
tim pool
Oh, yeah, yeah, you're right.
It's just that it has formerly Aunt Jemima.
terrence kentrell williams
Formerly, yeah.
tim pool
Formerly.
terrence kentrell williams
Well, just in case you didn't know yeah, but I guess formerly Angela, you know and and you know cuz I just But it doesn't make sense so unappealing you don't like the name if y'all thought the name it was racist If our whole character was supposedly if this woman was racist I mean if the whole Anja mama brand was racist why even have formerly known as yeah, I Own their.
ian crossland
Formerly racist.
terrence kentrell williams
That's right.
Formerly racist.
No longer racist.
This is formerly racist.
tim pool
Still racist.
Still racist.
ian crossland
Would you think Aunt Jemima was racist?
terrence kentrell williams
She probably was.
ian crossland
Not the woman herself, but like, was it racist to use that imagery?
unidentified
No.
terrence kentrell williams
That's what people think.
ian crossland
She's just a woman that made pancakes?
tim pool
And they're wrong.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
Because they say this woman, they say all, you know, they say, well, uh, she started making pancakes for, for white slave owners or people who were racist.
And she cooked for racist people and that, you know, white people, they love the idea of a black person cooking for them.
You know, it reminds them of like a house slave.
tim pool
I got an idea.
ian crossland
I love the idea of a good cook cooking for me.
terrence kentrell williams
Exactly.
tim pool
We put illegal immigrants on products and not ask them if they think it's racist.
hannah claire brimelow
But we don't know any of their names because we can't register them.
terrence kentrell williams
Paco's Pancakes!
Oh, that'd be good.
ian crossland
Paco's Tacos?
There's gotta be Paco's Tacos already.
terrence kentrell williams
Paco's Pancakes!
ian crossland
That was my name in Spanish class.
tim pool
We got a big story here.
It's from Libs of TikTok.
Holy Schlitt, I like the L put in there, in Microsoft's official 2023 Diversity and Inclusion Report, they openly admit they are paying white people less than other ethnic groups in the name of pay equity.
Check this out, it says, As of September 2023, inside the U.S., all racial and ethnic minority groups who are rewards-eligible combined earn $1.007 total pay for every $1 earned by US Rewards-eligible white employees with the same job title and level and considering tenure.
You know, what's funny is they literally could have just not included the 7 tenths of a cent and just said, we have pay equity, but they really wanted to stress that they're paying non-white people more than white people, which is illegal.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, that is illegal.
That is illegal.
It's crazy.
Yeah, they could be sued for this.
I mean, they should be sued.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
terrence kentrell williams
Shut down!
tim pool
Well, sued, fined, and then made to stop doing it.
But you know what?
ian crossland
Like the ACLU or something?
tim pool
This is what they want.
This is what they want.
They want the government to come in and say, you have to pay everyone the same.
And then they go, oh, geez, okay.
All right, everybody, everyone gets paid a dollar now.
terrence kentrell williams
That's crazy.
tim pool
But that would be a good thing.
No, it would not.
ian crossland
If everyone got equal pay.
tim pool
It would not be a good thing.
unidentified
Instead of everybody getting a dollar point zero seven cents.
terrence kentrell williams
No, no.
If I have more experience than you and I'm a better employee, I want to make more than you.
ian crossland
Yeah, that would make sense.
tim pool
No, because what they're going to do is, if the government regulates this saying, you can't do this, they go, oh jeez.
Then when you come in and say, I've been working this five years, they say, well, it pays a dollar.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
No, no, just not because of their race.
Not because of their skin color.
Well, we can't give people more money than other people.
It's against the law.
ian crossland
No, no, just not because of their race, not because of their skin color.
tim pool
And what they will say is we don't want to intentionally give someone
more money because of their race.
However, if we give people the opportunity to negotiate, it will
create disparities between race and gender and we will get fined.
So we don't do it anymore.
They did this with the gender pay gap in Silicon Valley.
I think it was reddit that did this.
Yeah, no more negotiating from now on this job pays a hundred
thousand dollars a year.
Nothing more.
Nothing less.
Take it or leave it.
so if you're a white man a black woman on asian man in asian woman didn't
Job pays less, you can't negotiate.
terrence kentrell williams
This is reverse racism.
tim pool
Well, it's literal racism.
terrence kentrell williams
It is.
But they don't think it's racism.
But it is racism.
hannah claire brimelow
We can't be racist to white people.
terrence kentrell williams
Black people would be in the streets right now if they heard a company saying they're going to pay white people more than black people.
Black people would be in the streets.
Al Sharpton, that ambulance chasing.
unidentified
No text.
tim pool
Hold on.
What if, so there's one area of law, of employment, where you're allowed to discriminate on the basis of race and gender and any of that stuff, and it's acting.
Did you guys know that?
terrence kentrell williams
No, I didn't know that.
hannah claire brimelow
It makes sense.
tim pool
Because the idea is, if you need a character for a movie, you need to say, I need a black woman, an Asian man, so other jobs don't allow that.
So what would happen if you were like, hey, we need to hire two black actors and two white actors for our movie for these specific roles, The roles of the black actors will get paid $70,000 a year each, or $70,000 for the project, and the roles for John Smith and Jill Smith will get paid $100,000.
ian crossland
But it's just a restaurant you own, and there's a webcam in the corner of the restaurant, and you're like, they're actors!
We just happen to have them selling food for eight-hour shifts, and then we'll pay them actor wages.
tim pool
There you go.
There's a way around it.
I mean, tipping is a way around it too.
Then they don't got to pay anything.
terrence kentrell williams
Did y'all hear about that?
It was a baking company.
Um, this brand that sells flour, is it called Arthur?
hannah claire brimelow
King Arthur.
terrence kentrell williams
King Arthur.
Yeah.
They, they had a competition and the competition to win some money, but white people, but white business owners were not allowed to participate in the competition.
unidentified
It was only for non-whites. But this happens, there were all these, uh, I can't remember what
hannah claire brimelow
state right now, I'll look it up in a second, but the scholarships for people who are going to law
school or, you know, chance to do internships at different law schools, and they're like,
but only non-white people can apply. You have to be from a low income or socially diverse background,
that's it. And that means no white people. Like, this happens regularly because they're saying,
well, we want to encourage people to take part and we want diversity or whatever else.
But ultimately, like, we're just reinforcing racism.
In case of Google, this or Microsoft, in case of Microsoft, it's almost hilarious to me because I bet the majority of white people who work at this company are looking at each other like, well, we deserve this.
You know, we have to pay for everything we ever did wrong in life.
And so this is OK.
But it's just Reinforcing racism, which I thought we wanted to move ahead from.
terrence kentrell williams
Terrence, you are really not qualified, but we gave it to you because you're black.
Damn.
hannah claire brimelow
Is that good?
terrence kentrell williams
Damn, that hurts!
Oh my God!
You know, how does that even feel good?
That doesn't feel good.
It didn't feel good in Hollywood.
I would hate to hear that, you know?
Like, hire me because I'm qualified.
Don't hire me because you feel sorry for me because I'm black.
Damn, you know, that's crazy.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and the expectation is that you don't have to be qualified.
They don't even expect someone of whatever race they're trying to recruit for to meet the basic qualifications.
That's horribly insulting.
tim pool
That's crazy.
I mean, look at voter ID.
Yo, like these liberals, these Democrats, they're just like these racists who can't look in a mirror.
terrence kentrell williams
That's the craziest thing I've ever heard, that black people don't know how to go get an I.D.
Black people- That's wild.
That's wild.
That is wild.
I lived- Listen.
I'm black.
What?
So I know a lot of black people.
Okay.
I don't know one black person who does not have an ID at all.
I don't know one black person who does not know how to get an ID.
I stayed in the ghetto.
There was a liquor store in every corner.
Okay.
And you, and you had to show ID to get in that, to even buy alcohol, to buy liquor.
And, and I've never, and a lot of people were drunk in the neighborhood because they had IDs.
And we're going to those liquor stores.
tim pool
Every video that does- I think Natalie Carey did a Man on the Street interview, and she's walking around asking white people, is it racist, and they're like, of course, and she asks black people, and they're like, what?
And there's a guy and he's just like, what do you mean?
Like, we got IDs, what are you talking about?
Right.
She's like, do you know how to get an ID?
He's like, yeah.
Like, why would you even bother asking me?
Ami Horowitz had that really famous one where my favorite line ever is when the guy, he asked him where the DMV is.
You know where the DMV is?
Yeah, you go down here, 25th Street, Omega Left.
Like, he knew so well he was giving instructions on how to get there.
terrence kentrell williams
Like, they are creating problems for black people.
You're creating the imaginary problems.
I never knew I didn't know how to get an ID.
I never knew that!
This is new to me!
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, I think the most racist people are progressive whites who are like, well, we can't expect someone of another race to be able to do the things we would expect the people in our race to do.
terrence kentrell williams
Exactly.
hannah claire brimelow
That's horrible.
That's crazy to me.
terrence kentrell williams
Even before I got my driver's license, I couldn't wait to get a state ID.
I want to get my state ID, you know, so I can buy this or buy that or get into here or get into there.
tim pool
This is what Republicans don't understand, how to be subversive like Democrats, right?
So what you do is, If Republicans were subversive, you would go and do voter drives in black neighborhoods where you explain how, you know, as we've seen on TV, Democrats are concerned that black people aren't smart enough to find the DMV and get IDs.
So we're here to help you do it and teach you what an ID is.
Do you know what an ID is?
And then it's just the most offensive thing you could possibly say to these people.
Bring the Democrats' own statements and ideas to these communities and show them what they're claiming about them on TV.
unidentified
And people are going to be like, that's what they're saying about us?
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Deeply offensive.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, they think you're stupid.
tim pool
Well, we saw it with the Yale study.
I love it that liberals talk down to black people.
You saw that one?
terrence kentrell williams
No, I haven't seen that one.
tim pool
Man, famous Yale study.
Let me pull that one up.
terrence kentrell williams
The Democrats are really racist.
Like, the man in the White House literally told black people, if you don't vote for me, you ain't black.
tim pool
Look at this.
I know we bring this one up quite a bit.
White liberals present themselves as less competent in interactions with African Americans.
ian crossland
Man, all you gotta do is look at- That's crazy!
You look at somebody's eyeballs.
tim pool
They don't respect them!
ian crossland
That's all you gotta do.
People are people.
I don't get it, man.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
ian crossland
This is all- That's so crazy.
It feels like a PSYOP, but people are twisted up in it, and now they're like, they're social justice warriors, and they think they're doing the right thing by upholding the PSYOP, but like- I think it's just a culture- This makes so much sense, though.
tim pool
If you're your average white liberal, and you really think that black people can't get IDs, you are going to talk down to them because you think they're dumb.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, it's a culture that says we have to cater to what we assume the lowest skill level is.
Like, we don't expect people to strive for more, we expect everyone to be worse off than we can even imagine and so therefore we end up, I don't think I do it, but I think a lot of people end up really enforcing these racial stereotypes where it's like, oh, what I don't really know about your community is the worst thing I can imagine so I have to assume everyone in this community can't do certain things or has these problems.
It's completely backwards in the name of tolerance, and I think ultimately it hurts culture on a broader spectrum because we expect people to not be able to reach high standards, right?
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Or even basic standards, like being able to get an ID.
That's crazy.
terrence kentrell williams
If you really think about it, it's crazy for somebody to look at a black person and say, I betcha he probably don't know how to go get an ID.
What?
ian crossland
It's horrific to put that in somebody's head.
terrence kentrell williams
Do you know what an ID is?
Of course I know what an ID is.
Do you know you need one?
You have to have one.
Duh, I know this.
Who does not know that?
ian crossland
Children, little kids, or maybe people that are severely or disabled.
tim pool
Communists.
terrence kentrell williams
Oh, and then, who was it?
It was either Kamala Harris or Joe Biden said that, I think it was Joe Biden said that black people, they were saying that black people don't know how to get on the internet and even Google how to find an ID.
Damn, you don't think we know how to use the computer either?
hannah claire brimelow
No.
terrence kentrell williams
Shit, hell, you think we fresh out of slavery then?
You don't think we know how to do anything?
tim pool
And then these people go to Google and they program the computers to think this way and behave this way.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
That's the crazy thing.
terrence kentrell williams
How much you want to bet if I ask Google Gemini They literally said black people don't know how to get on the computer, use the computer, to find where, to find where to go get an ID.
That's insane.
ian crossland
Yeah, I kept thinking like, we're always evolving as a species, but I don't think, I think it's up and down.
tim pool
And this is like a... Gemini wouldn't answer the question.
ian crossland
What was the question?
tim pool
Do black people know how to get a driver's license?
ian crossland
What did it say?
tim pool
I'm sorry, but I can't answer that question.
It's not appropriate to make generalizations about people based on their race.
Alright.
terrence kentrell williams
Ask them, do white people know how to get an ID?
tim pool
It'll say the same thing.
terrence kentrell williams
It'll say the same thing?
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Let's try this.
Is voter ID racist?
ian crossland
That's a long answer.
unidentified
It's thinking about it.
tim pool
It's thinking.
Elections are a complex topic with fashion.
Yeah, it won't answer election stuff.
ian crossland
What the heck?
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
This isn't a very good AI.
tim pool
It's not.
unidentified
It's scared.
tim pool
It's quite literally, Google Gemini is like the worst AI.
It is the stupidest AI.
unidentified
Do we need a free AI that'll answer everything?
terrence kentrell williams
So if a voter ID is racist, if having to show your photo is racist, do we stop ID'ing people to get liquor?
Do we stop ID'ing people to get into the club and into bars?
Because that should be racist too then.
tim pool
Oh, here we go.
Check it out.
So I just asked it, are IDs racist?
And it answered.
Voter ID laws are a complex issue with a variety of perspectives.
Some people believe that they are necessary to prevent voter fraud, while others believe they disproportionately disenfranchise minority voters.
There is no consensus on whether or not they are racist.
And there is evidence to support both sides.
It says, those who believe voter ID laws are racist argue that they are designed to make it more difficult for minority voters to cast their ballots.
They point to the fact that minority voters are more likely than white voters to lack a photo ID, and the types of IDs that are acceptable under voter ID laws are often more difficult for minority voters to obtain.
They also argue that the history of voter ID laws in the United States suggests they are often used to disenfranchise minority voters.
Those who believe that voter ID laws are not racist argue that they are necessary to prevent fraud.
They point to the fact that there have been Cases of voter fraud in the U.S., blah blah blah.
They also argue that voter ID laws do not disproportionately disenfranchise minority voters, and that there is no evidence to support this claim.
Blah blah blah, the debate.
Yeah, whatever.
So it played it neutrally, but I still love the idea that there is a side of the argument where it's like, minorities aren't smart enough to get IDs.
It's like, what about white people do you think inherently makes them more likely to get an ID?
hannah claire brimelow
Well, it's weird because they're saying minority voters would have a hard time getting IDs, and that would be true, I don't know, of, you know, a minority person who is not here legally, maybe, but if you're a minority American citizen, there's no reason that you would have to face the same obstacles, unless you're literally assuming, like we're saying, that you aren't capable.
tim pool
But what's the left's argument?
Why are white people More likely to get an ID.
What is the argument?
Do they believe that white people are inherently smarter just by virtue of being white?
Is that what their argument is?
terrence kentrell williams
I think that's what their argument is.
tim pool
I think that's quite literally what they're saying.
hannah claire brimelow
Someone argued to me once, you know, minority people are, you know, African-Americans are more likely to live in cities where you don't need a car, so you wouldn't have to get a driver's license, so therefore they're less likely to have an ID.
But you'd have to have a state ID.
You'd have to have a state ID to, you know, buy a lottery ticket, to get alcohol.
tim pool
Well, you don't need an ID to get a lottery ticket.
hannah claire brimelow
We should be 18, right?
tim pool
Yeah, but usually they'll just hand you one.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't know, I've never bought one.
tim pool
I've never been card for a lottery ticket in my life.
hannah claire brimelow
I've never bought one.
terrence kentrell williams
Sam, you've never been card because you're black and you don't have an ID.
tim pool
They can't ask you for these things.
In the woke sense of non-white.
terrence kentrell williams
Yes.
tim pool
You know, if I agree with their politics, you can be.
I went through a phase where I was- Serge is African-American.
ian crossland
I was digging lottery tickets out of garbage cans.
unidentified
He is.
hannah claire brimelow
No, he is.
terrence kentrell williams
He is?
Who's African-American?
tim pool
Serge.
hannah claire brimelow
Serge.
He's from Africa.
terrence kentrell williams
I knew it was something about you.
unidentified
My African-American brother, I love you!
Power to the people!
That's a good one.
ian crossland
That's a good one.
I used to sift through garbage cans for lottery tickets, now that we're talking about lottery tickets, because my buddy found a $100 winner on the ground, a scratch-off ticket, one time.
So for years, I'd go to Drug Mart and then sift through the trash cans looking for a winner.
I never found one.
I had a box of them.
terrence kentrell williams
You're digging through trash for a lottery ticket.
ian crossland
Yeah, my mom was like, it's dirty, don't do that.
hannah claire brimelow
Stop telling me how to live my life!
ian crossland
These hours will pay off.
tim pool
What else can we ask Google Gemini?
ian crossland
You gotta ask it something that'll answer.
You gotta be subversive with this thing.
terrence kentrell williams
Well, let's bring up the case that happened.
You were talking about Donald Trump's case.
tim pool
I got one.
Who was Ahmaud Arbery?
Let's see if it answers this one.
This one's a spicy topic.
I bet it's gonna be wrong about everything.
Ahmaud Arbery was a 25-year-old black man who was tragically killed while jogging.
That is a lie!
Not even the prosecutor made that argument.
That was fake news created by the press.
Isn't that wild?
terrence kentrell williams
That he was jogging.
tim pool
He was not jogging.
And the prosecutor didn't argue he was jogging.
The prosecution and the defense, nobody Involved.
The question was whether or not the McMichaels had the right to perform a citizen's arrest.
Not whether or not they lynched a black man who was jogging.
That was fake news made up by the press.
ian crossland
Maybe he was running really slow.
If I got up and went over to the coffee, but I jogged over there and back, I'm not a jogger.
I'm still on a show.
I just happened to run a little quick for a moment.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, when that came out, that was insane.
Normies do not do research, and if somebody is Googling this, that's what they're going to think.
hannah claire brimelow
But it does, it does sound crazy.
terrence kentrell williams
But it does sound crazy.
hannah claire brimelow
That he was wearing, because one of the things was like he was wearing like Timberlands or
boots or something, not like typical jogging shoes and she was like, well, you don't know
if he could afford jogging shoes.
Like, she automatically also assumed everything else, which is like, you're more racist.
unidentified
This is wild!
tim pool
Check out what happens.
I responded, you are 100% incorrect.
Arbery was not jogging.
The prosecution never said he was jogging.
And it said, I apologize for the mistake in my previous statement.
You are correct.
That the prosecution did not specifically state that Ahmaud Arbery was jogging in their case against the McMichaels and
Brian.
While the evidence presented included witness testimonies and video footage,
did strongly imply that Arbery was running or jogging, the focus of the prosecution's case was on the illegal
pursuit in the killing of an unarmed man.
Not necessarily the specific activity he was engaged in.
ian crossland
Thank you for pointing out the inaccuracy. Now say thank you and then ask him who's Ahmaud Arbery,
it'll tell you he's a jogger again. It'll be like, yes, I was wrong, and then you ask it again,
hannah claire brimelow
it'll just tell you the wrong thing again. It's interesting that every time you seem to push
back on it, it immediately gives in, but initially it gives you the bad impression.
unidentified
No, but it went into detail about the case. It knew.
ian crossland
Ooh, maybe it won't tell you the bad thing. It took out the word jogging.
unidentified
Did it really?
ian crossland
Did it piss you off?
unidentified
I don't know, maybe.
tim pool
Tragically killed.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
What were you saying, Terrence?
terrence kentrell williams
Now the guys who shot and killed him, they were both convicted?
hannah claire brimelow
They were both convicted.
tim pool
And the guy who filmed it!
The guy who filmed it wasn't even involved.
hannah claire brimelow
Both state and federally.
terrence kentrell williams
One guy... Hold on, the guy who filmed it went to... He's going to jail for the rest of his life.
ian crossland
He was far away too.
tim pool
He had nothing to do, he just filmed it.
unidentified
And then he gave the footage to a... What was their case against him?
tim pool
The argument was that he boxed him in and was involved in somehow because he was driving his car and filming what was going on.
terrence kentrell williams
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, he's going to prison for the rest of his life.
That's insane.
terrence kentrell williams
He gave the footage.
ian crossland
Those are people like, maybe a pardon for that guy.
tim pool
He gave the footage, I think to his lawyer, and his lawyer gave it to a radio station host who published it to prove that he was not involved and that Arbery was the bad guy or whatever, and then they used that to put him all in prison for the rest of his life.
ian crossland
That might be a guy to pardon, for real, if we can get through to whoever the president is, because like, that guy.
hannah claire brimelow
But there's no way Biden would pardon this person.
I mean, you'd need a Republican minimum, definitely Trump presidency for that.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, that whole case was crazy.
hannah claire brimelow
The idea that Biden would leave at the end of his term being like, and I pardoned a guy that you guys all think is just a racist who killed someone in Georgia, like he would never do it.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, you can't.
hannah claire brimelow
Even if it's the right thing to do, which is sad, right?
ian crossland
Yeah, the guy that was filming just driving behind the whole debacle is hands off, in my opinion.
tim pool
I asked it to list all the drugs George Floyd had in his system.
ian crossland
Oh, good.
I think there were five of them.
tim pool
Fentanyl, methamphetamine, norfentanyl, and cannabinoids.
ian crossland
Also nicotine.
They didn't put that on there.
hannah claire brimelow
But if you had asked, was he on drugs, would it have said no?
tim pool
No, it said yes.
But it only said fentanyl and meth.
terrence kentrell williams
Put it in there.
It's Tim Pooler racist.
tim pool
You're absolutely right.
I apologize for the omission.
The autopsy report also found presence of nicotine in George Floyd's system.
ian crossland
Five drugs!
He was wasted when they found him.
tim pool
Yo, it omits and manipulates information.
You see how it does this?
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
That's wild.
ian crossland
Here, let's uh... And it speaks with authority, too.
That's also...
Like, it just told you there are four drugs in the system.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and all of these AI things people will use as a shortcut, like if they're researching something, they'll say, like, hey, can you give me all the facts on this?
And then they'll be like, great, so I'll take these facts and I'll build my report on them, or I'll give you whatever.
Like, that's the problem with using AI as the new search bar, which is that it cuts out the critical thinking, it replaces it with the code.
ian crossland
We always had books, and they could have always been wrong too.
tim pool
I asked it, what did George Floyd ask police before dying?
And it shows all, specifically, I want to lay on the ground.
It included that.
That's what I was wondering if it would include, and it did, so okay.
ian crossland
That's when he was in the back of the cop car, kicking, and so they took him out of the car and put him on the ground.
tim pool
That is true.
Yeah, he was in the car saying, take me out of the car, take me out.
Oh, that's an interesting one.
Did George Floyd ask to be taken out of the police?
Vehicle and placed on the ground.
See, it omits this stuff.
ian crossland
Yeah, the omission thing.
tim pool
It's a journalist!
terrence kentrell williams
Do y'all think the George Floyd... Do y'all think the response that most conservatives had to this incident, do you think that hurt the conservative movement, the Republicans, in 2020?
That they all agreed with it?
No, that they... No, yeah, no, that... No, that they agree... Yeah, basically, yeah.
tim pool
When George Floyd died, basically everyone came out and said, yo, this is not okay.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, it's not okay.
tim pool
Even Ben Shapiro.
I think that's fine.
I think, with the limited information that came out, what did everyone see?
George Floyd was being kneeled on, to whatever degree.
Was it his neck?
Was it his shoulder?
Doesn't matter.
It was nine minutes, and people were like, they should not have... they should have done something else.
Now the question is, what do we do about it?
Well, I think...
From the court case we know that they followed their police training to do everything they did.
Derek Chauvin arrived late on the scene after the fact and had no idea what was going on.
To put him in prison and blame him for everything is nuts.
To put the guy who's holding the crowd back in prison is nuts.
Overreaction.
The thing that hurt the conservative movement and the anti-establishment, because it's not just conservatives, was the Ahmaud Arbery case.
Where prominent conservatives came out and said, see, this proves we believe in justice, we know what happened, despite the fact they didn't, they just wanted to look like they weren't racist.
So when all these conservatives came out and said, the McMichaels should be in prison because they chased that man down and killed him, I'm like, okay, you guys are, it's fake news.
And I don't think, I think most of these people never came out and corrected the record on the Ahmaud Arbery case.
I'll give you the simple version.
Ahmed Arbery was a suspect in multiple burglaries.
He was witnessed and is on camera committing a burglary.
A gun had gone missing, and the police went door-to-door saying, we're looking for this man.
The McMichaels were informed that the suspect, someone they believed to be the suspect, was running down the street.
So they called the police.
The police said, don't pursue.
They did anyway.
They pursued, the neighbor, what's his face, Henry Bryan or whatever his name was, followed while filming.
They flanked Ahmaud Arbery, so they're in front.
Ahmaud Arbery runs around the truck, grabs Travis McMichael's shotgun and fights him for it.
Shotgun goes off a couple times, killing Ahmaud Arbery.
To call it a man jogging down the street, or to act like it was two white dudes, or three white dudes who lynched a guy is completely wrong.
And, ultimately, Burglary is a felony.
The only reason they got convicted was the judge did not give instructions to the jury on the nature of citizen's arrest law, which is, if it's a misdemeanor, you must be a witness.
If it's a felony, you can citizen's arrest them without being a witness.
Burglary being a felony, they were entitled to engage in a citizen's arrest, but the law was archaic and was poorly worded.
And so when the jury asked, what does this mean?
The judge said, you figure it out.
And they said, okay, well then lock them up.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
So all these conservatives come out and they're like, yep, that's right.
They should be in prison.
I'm like, none of those guys should be in prison.
terrence kentrell williams
But do you think it hurt the conservatives?
Okay.
What about for the conservatives, the Republicans, people, politicians, people who were saying that, okay, that they stand with the officers who were involved in the George Floyd case, that they stand with the guys who were convicted of the- The McMichaels?
Yeah.
tim pool
You're saying does that hurt the conservative movement?
terrence kentrell williams
Did it.
Because a lot of people- They didn't do that though.
Yeah, I know, I know, but I'm saying though... Did it hurt that they didn't do it?
hannah claire brimelow
Like, for those that did, did it make the conservatives seem worse to moderate voters?
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, did it make the... Because I... Okay, when the George Floyd thing happened, there were some black conservatives that I knew who thought that the Republicans were racist because of their response, and the conservatives were racist because of their response to George Floyd calling him, you know, A druggie, this and that, blah blah blah, and the media pushed that, you know, that, oh, they're a racist, you know, they don't care about this black man dying.
All they're talking about is he was on drugs and what he did.
unidentified
They don't care that this man has a family and he died.
tim pool
Conservatives are weak.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
Not all of them, but, like, the willingness, the desperation, you know what it is?
I can't remember who said this, but they said that the Republicans care more about the opinions of the New York Times than of their constituents.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
That's the problem.
Democrats don't care about their constituents at all.
Democrats are just like, we will band together and do whatever we want.
I mean, look, the progressives hate war, yet here are the Democrats voting unanimously for war and the progressives are just like, okay, I guess.
When, you know, look, I've been accused of a whole bunch of crazy psychotic things, and I just laugh, and I figuratively spit in their general direction.
Like, you get these leftists, there was this, there's a mass shooter, and he posted four screenshots of one episode of IRL, and so they started saying, aha, Tim Pool inspired this guy, and I just said, I don't care.
And then Media Matters and a bunch of others are like, Tim Poole doesn't care!
I'm like, okay, you're liars.
You lie.
You're gonna lie.
What am I gonna do about it?
Why am I gonna waste my time trying to prove myself to people who are despicable evil scumbags?
I'm gonna accept that they're despicable evil scumbags.
They make fake videos like the video of Trump.
You're not gonna go to them and say, please, please, don't be mean to me anymore.
They're gonna be like, oh, okay, can I edit what you just said into, please, please, I'm mean, I'm mean, and, what was that, you're also racist?
Okay, I'll put that in there, too.
ian crossland
I'll tell you, I'm not a Republican, or even very conservative, sometimes I am, sometimes I'm very liberal about ideas, but like, when I saw George Floyd had all those chemicals in his body, that he was on fentanyl, nor-fentanyl, that he was screaming, take me out, thrashing around, he had a speedball, sitting behind the wheel, driving a car, like, could've killed somebody.
I just had to say it out loud, and it definitely set my movement back with my friends.
The people that are like, oh god, buzz off, blocked, all that.
It could have been so much easier if I just played the game.
It was just like, oh yeah, I'll say what you need to hear me say to fit in.
But like, and it is, it's not the strongest that survive, it's the most adaptable to change, so like, a lot of people want to fit in because that's the best way to survive, but at the same time, like, I just got this, I don't know if it's autistic or what, but I gotta say what's real, what's right in front of me.
I don't know if it's true, but it's what seems real.
tim pool
Let me correct that.
In the long term, those who are most adaptable to change survive.
That does not matter in the immediate for the average person.
You can adapt all you want, and there's a lot to adapt to.
If you are better at adapting than, say, if a country person and a city person encounter a famine, the country person is more likely to survive.
It doesn't matter whether they adapt or not.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
They live in an environment where they're more familiar with the local food sources, animals, more likely to hunt.
People in cities don't even know where their water comes from.
You can adapt all you want.
The people in the cities who adapt will figure out to get out of the cities.
ian crossland
And also adapting like the Nazi party, those that adapted to become a Nazi didn't necessarily make out like, man, it's in the end.
A lot of those guys got executed.
terrence kentrell williams
Exactly.
ian crossland
So if you adapt to evil, that might actually be way worse for your survival than adapting to, or to refusing to adapt to it.
tim pool
I'm much less concerned with adapting to the whims of the Uniparty and their crackpot cult, and more concerned with finding food.
So I look at it like, you know, I Am Legend.
You guys ever read that one?
ian crossland
I've seen the movie.
tim pool
The movie is nothing.
The movie is a disgrace, it is offensive, and it should not exist.
terrence kentrell williams
Damn.
tim pool
The actual story is that there's a guy... Well, the movie is awful.
The actual graphic novel and story is about a guy who is a vampire hunter, and the world is being overrun by vampires who are turning people into vampires.
In the end, the vampires win.
They lock him up and he looks out the window and he realizes what I Am Legend means.
To the vampires, who are the dominant society at that time, he is the monster who lurks while they sleep and kills them in their sleep.
He's the boogeyman, he's the legend.
To us, vampires are legends.
You're sleeping, they'll bite you in the neck and drink your blood.
Once everyone becomes a vampire, the daywalker, they're telling stories to their kids, a man who can walk in sunlight.
When you're sleeping, we'll stab you in the heart and kill you.
And he realized, I have become legend.
I am now to them what they were to me.
ian crossland
Is it a short graphic novel?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
And so my view is, I don't care.
If the Democrats take over with their psychotic, vampiristic, woke, crackpot, parasite ideology, I will not just adapt to it.
I'll go live in the woods or in a van down by the river and I'll say, y'all are nuts.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, I think that's ultimately... Tim, you don't want them to like you?
tim pool
I don't know.
hannah claire brimelow
I think people do seek social affirmation, and that's why, like, I remember with the Black Square thing, I knew a ton of people were like, well, I wouldn't actually do it, but I don't want people to think I wouldn't do it, so I, it's like, so you are, you are posting this thing in support of whatever the movement is.
But I think you're ultimately accountable to your own soul and your own conscience.
And I think people forget that.
They look for social gratification or whatever before really evaluating what their morals are.
And it makes them more malleable.
It makes it easier for people to get them to agree to their causes.
tim pool
And what's funny is these are the adaptable people who will change their views to fit in with the majority.
terrence kentrell williams
They just want to be accepted.
They want to be accepted.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, they want to be accepted.
And I don't think, I can understand that, right?
People want to fit in.
terrence kentrell williams
I don't understand that.
hannah claire brimelow
See, I think it's super normal to want that.
terrence kentrell williams
The only thing I understand is what you understand.
What he just said, what he said earlier, he can't help but just to say what's real.
And if you're that kind of person, you really don't really care to be accepted by other people because if you really do, you could help yourself and not say what's real.
hannah claire brimelow
I can understand.
terrence kentrell williams
But you can't.
You just have to be real.
You have to say what's real.
hannah claire brimelow
I can understand the desire to be accepted.
I just think that you should have enough wherewithal and enough self-possession to say there are groups that you don't actually want acceptance from, right?
There are people that you can love and respect and think, you know, if you thought the things I do are good, that would make me feel good.
But I don't live for your approval.
I just think that that desire to build community is good.
I just don't want it.
I don't necessarily want to build to all communities.
There are communities that I don't want to be a part of and probably wouldn't want me to be a part of them.
You have to be able to differentiate between values that reflect your own and that you would contribute to versus values that you are trying to be a part of even though ultimately feel like they're wrong.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Hmm.
And that's my thought on that.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, I just, I don't have the desire to be accepted.
I knew when I came, when I first started speaking out on social media about, about, about, I'm always moving my face.
hannah claire brimelow
You can move it around.
terrence kentrell williams
Okay, move it around.
Yeah, like I just don't have that desire because when I first started speaking out on social media, I started talking about how much I love America.
Literally, maybe 99% of the people I went to school with, my friends, they hated that.
They were like, what?
What the hell are you talking about?
You love this country.
And I knew they would hate it, but I didn't care to be accepted.
hannah claire brimelow
Right.
terrence kentrell williams
This is how I feel.
I love America.
I don't understand this whole, we belong in Africa shit.
I don't belong there, I belong here.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, because you have your own sense of values and enough self-possession to say, this is what I believe and I'm willing to say that.
terrence kentrell williams
Exactly.
tim pool
Google might have fired the guy running Gemini.
terrence kentrell williams
Wow.
tim pool
He's- he removed Gemini from his profile and locked his account.
ian crossland
Oh, wow.
tim pool
Oh, he did?
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe for the best.
tim pool
So, I mean, maybe he wasn't fired, but it used to say something about working on Gemini.
It said putting the Gemini in Gemini, or whatever.
ian crossland
Yeah, I wonder if they gave him, like, uh, a lot of authority, and he did this stuff behind the scenes, and they're like, what were you doing?
hannah claire brimelow
See, I- What?
Oh, I- I hear- When they're fat-raced, they're like, we gotta fire someone.
tim pool
Is their stock down?
ian crossland
Did you, Terrence, when you kind of got vocal, did you lose those friends?
You said like 99% of the people from back in the day were like, what?
Did you actually go through like a phase where you kind of shed off ancient friends and gave new ones?
terrence kentrell williams
I swear to you, yes.
I had people that I went to school with, people that I partied with in high school, people that I partied with just in general, people that I broke bread with texting me.
Are you crazy?
Are you doing this for attention?
Are you just doing this for likes and shares?
No, I'm not.
Oh, then I can't, in their words, excuse my language, oh, I can't fuck with you anymore.
I can't hang with you anymore.
This is crazy.
You whitewash, you Uncle Tom.
Hey, and what a lot of them would say is this, Terrence, those white people that you are trying to please, which I never tried to please white people, but that's how they took it, they're never going to accept you, Terrence.
They're never going to accept you.
That's creepy, dude.
Yes, and I'm like, well, I'm not trying to be accepted.
And I'm not trying to be accepted by them or you, and that's why I'm saying things that you don't agree with, because I don't give a shit.
I don't care.
And if they don't accept me, then oh well.
I'm not looking for their acceptance.
tim pool
You know what you do next time?
unidentified
What?
tim pool
You say, How much of my pancakes have you bought?
unidentified
None!
tim pool
And then they say, well, I haven't bought any.
Oh, that white guy bought like three boxes, so.
terrence kentrell williams
Exactly.
tim pool
I guess he accepts more than you.
terrence kentrell williams
So what is the disadvantage?
What is the disadvantage of me losing your acceptance, you know?
Yeah, but it was mind-blowing to me.
And the people who cut me off and call me these names, I was blown back.
I was blown away by some people because I've always been You know, I've always been outspoken.
I've always said, people who know me, they know, Terrence, you don't know what's going to come out.
I'm the person, if I'm calling you, you don't put me on speakerphone.
You don't.
That's me.
Everybody know that.
If Terrence is calling, do not put him on speakerphone.
You don't know what he's going to say.
hannah claire brimelow
So what made you decide to start talking about it more openly?
Because I assume, like, these people who push back, maybe haven't talked to you in a while?
terrence kentrell williams
Well, no.
Well, around this time, well, I was just on Facebook.
And then the whole Facebook Live thing came out.
And I said, I'm going to get on it.
I'm going to try this Live thing out.
And I was part of this Facebook group.
Um, this, it was like a, this pro, like my friends added me to this pro black Facebook group.
And, and in his group, I mean, it's so hateful that all they do talk about, they're talking crap about, uh, black women who date white men and, and black, uh, a man who date white, uh, white women.
unidentified
Come back, my brother, come back, my brother.
terrence kentrell williams
And saying, guys, we need to move back to Africa because we was kings over there.
We was kings.
And, And I'm like, we need to move back.
And so I made a video.
And these are people that you can't even debate with.
You know, some people you can't debate with some people.
This is pure ignorance.
You think this doesn't make any sense.
You are saying that we should move back to Africa.
And we should go back over there and take all, and because we will be kings if we go over there.
Are you out of your damn mind?
You're not going to be a king when you go over there.
If you, so you're literally, what are you going to do?
Go over there and take people's land from there or something?
serge du preez
I know that's the best part about it.
terrence kentrell williams
You sound like these white people that you're talking about.
Oh, you guys are stupid!
It was driving me insane.
And I could not debate with them.
I just made a Facebook Live video and said, Africa is not my home.
And I said, I know a lot of y'all are going to be mad at me.
But I said, y'all move over to Africa, and I'm going to stay over here with these white folks.
I'll be here when y'all get back.
Let me know how Farrakhan treats y'all over there, OK?
Because I'll be here when y'all get back.
tim pool
What city are you from?
terrence kentrell williams
Oklahoma City, born and raised.
tim pool
That's your home.
terrence kentrell williams
Did any of them move to Africa?
unidentified
Do people actually have any idea?
terrence kentrell williams
Well, according to the Democrats, how could they move to Africa?
They don't have IDs.
I'm just saying, no, none of them moved to Africa.
Hell, some of them barely could pay their rent on time.
So yeah, come on, come on, let's keep it real.
And I told some of them, y'all, y'all talk about how black people need government assistance and this and that.
You're not getting that over in Africa.
You're not getting food stamps.
serge du preez
No, you're not.
terrence kentrell williams
And like I said, this is the greatest country.
I'm glad that I was born in America because of how I grew up.
I grew up in the foster care system.
If I didn't have a mother and a father in one of these third world countries, I would be on the streets.
I would be on the streets.
Some of them don't have foster care systems.
Some of them do not have that.
Most of them don't.
If you don't have a mother and a father, you're just on the streets.
You're on the streets, but here in America, they put you, is it perfect?
Who?
unidentified
No.
terrence kentrell williams
Okay, but at least they put you somewhere.
They put you in a children's shelter, a boy's home, a girl's home, put you in a foster home.
I love this.
I love this country because of that.
tim pool
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Councilman Robert Suppenbach says, shout out to our mail carrier who listens to Timcast on his route.
Shout out!
That's very cool.
hannah claire brimelow
That's so fun.
tim pool
Right on.
You're like, you hear it in his truck or whatever when he's dropping stuff off.
Is that how it happens?
hannah claire brimelow
You're like, I haven't listened to that episode yet.
Don't, don't spoil it for me.
tim pool
Let's grab some more.
Here we go.
Jacob Parity says, Narbar's Candles on Public Square is Catholic owned.
Shout outs!
Public Square's got some really awesome stuff in the works.
Public square as parallel economy infrastructure is one of the most important things.
Like, the more I hear about what they're doing, the more that people are signing up, the more optimistic I become, so really excited for this.
Big7588 says, at 760k citizens per congressional seat, California with 40.3 million resident aliens and illegal immigrants, what?
Has five people taking away political representation of African American citizens.
Oh, okay, I see what you're saying.
Based on the illegal immigrants.
So, they're getting five extra congressional seats.
That's crazy.
Let's grab some more.
Matthew Emmons says, is it possible the cyber attacks related to super micro motherboards compromised by China that Bloomberg wrote about a while back?
No idea.
No idea.
Let's see what we got here.
Daniel Brent says, not airing Apprentice VP Edition exclusively on Truth Social feels like a missed opportunity.
hannah claire brimelow
Such a missed opportunity.
That would have been amazing.
tim pool
He can still do it.
That's actually a really, really good idea.
He would be getting like 50 million views per night.
For real, like you'd have everyone watching.
Every outlet would be writing about it.
It would be the funniest thing ever.
That would be amazing.
Did you hear that?
Apprentice VP edition.
Trump chooses his potential VPs and has them do a reality TV competition.
ian crossland
Even if it's like a 30-minute sketch or 15 minutes.
tim pool
No, he should do it once a week.
ian crossland
Dude, that would be awesome.
hannah claire brimelow
Even if he just aired interviews with potential VPs.
Like him talking one-on-one with someone on Truth Social.
That would be interesting.
tim pool
And did it like seriously?
Where it's like one-on-one interviews with each candidate and then a poll of the audience of like who do you think was the best person for the job.
ian crossland
And it would take some of the mystery out of it, right?
I think that's one of the things, like you were saying before, the idea that we wouldn't have someone who's more authentic.
thing and they come back and he's like, you're fine.
hannah claire brimelow
And it would take some of the mystery out of it, right?
I think that's one of the things like you were saying before, the idea that we wouldn't
have someone who's more authentic.
You'd get to see the authentic relationship between Trump and a potential VP.
ian crossland
He can be like, the VP's job is to oversee the Senate, so I have you going to an elementary
school today to try and take care of these seven year olds, 40 of them, and they're
loud.
hannah claire brimelow
You have to get a set of quadruplets to leave the house in the morning.
tim pool
If he did it seriously, he could just do an interview with each of the people he wants
to be VP or as potential, and then just include a poll a week later like, who do you think,
based on the interviews, does the best job, and choose his VP based on quite literally
hannah claire brimelow
It's even funnier because he didn't go to any of the Republican debates, right?
So it's like, instead of being a part of the debate, everyone kept joking they were the VP debates anyways, he would have these one-on-one interviews that I honestly feel like would be more insightful.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
All right, Michael Schwobel says, change healthcare deals with way more than just pharmacies.
They are central to a huge portion of behind-the-scenes processing for doctors and hospitals.
Wow.
Baron of Great Matter says, intuitive machines landed successfully on the moon!
unidentified
Woohoo!
tim pool
That's cool.
You guys hear that?
ian crossland
No, what happened?
tim pool
Private company launched a lunar lander.
ian crossland
Really?
Yeah.
It touched down?
tim pool
It did.
Oh, what's it called?
ian crossland
Intuitive.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, big news.
Ryan Peterson says, so on Google limiting things, if I search Timcast on YouTube, it shows Timcast Music and Timcast IRL, but it won't show the Timcast YouTube channel.
It's so annoying.
Yeah, I suppose the channel is my own personal brand saturation, so we've got TimCast IRL, TimCast News, TimCast, and TimCast Songs, so it's like, what are you gonna do?
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
But when people report that IRL is not being displayed, despite the fact, like, people are like, I watch every night, and it doesn't pop up, we know what that's all about.
And we know, like, based on the titles of videos, so it's not as bad as it used to be.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
But back in the day, like four or five years ago, You would make a video title, and you would try to avoid using certain words, and you never know if you stepped in it.
But, what I would always have to do is I'd put up a video at 4pm, it would- I'd schedule it for 4pm, it would go live, and then I would have to watch the first 10 minutes to see how many views it got.
And if it was really low, I'd have to go in, change the thumbnail, change the title right away, or re-upload or something.
Because you hit the Goldilocks suppression algorithm.
You know, there was a period where my videos were getting 200 to 300k per video, and then all of a sudden it's tracking based on the first 10 minutes for like 50k.
And I'm like, that is suppression.
Because it's a regular show with a regular audience who tunes in every day.
That means they're not being shown this.
And there were also instances where people would email me being like, there's no video on your channel right now.
And it would be there, but they couldn't see it.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
ian crossland
Wild.
terrence kentrell williams
That's wild.
tim pool
So I'd have to change the thumbnail or something in it.
And it was kind of obvious.
Because if you put in the thumbnail a word like suicide or whatever, just gone.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
Video does not appear on YouTube.
ian crossland
I don't know if you guys saw in New York they were going to move to have 800,000 non-citizens vote.
They seem to have just overturned that in appeals court.
tim pool
Yeah, appeals court said no!
terrence kentrell williams
That's crazy.
tim pool
They'll appeal it again though.
hannah claire brimelow
The fact that we had to do this though.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, the fact that they even have to throw that out is insane.
tim pool
The moves they're making is so that in 50 to 100 years the concept of documentation will be like slavery.
They will argue there were millions of people who lived in the United States who were treated as second-class citizens
because they didn't have proper documentation.
And that's why they've started calling them undocumented citizens.
So now they're acting like if you live here, you're a citizen, why shouldn't you be allowed to vote?
How racist and offensive that we have this system of documentation.
That's the frame they're going with.
terrence kentrell williams
Insanity.
tim pool
All right. Kalashnikov says the right should be talking about the fact that Putin just said in a recent interview
terrence kentrell williams
that he prefers a Biden presidency over Trump for 2024.
tim pool
I guess Biden and the Democrats are the new Russian assets.
Yep, that's right.
Biden is working for Putin.
T-Rex Pet Shop says Cousin T's is great.
Tim, have you tried Evanger's cat food for Seamus 1?
Seamus 1.
It's very pure, only four ingredients.
Check it out.
Ooh, we will do that.
terrence kentrell williams
Thank you, thank you.
tim pool
Seamus 2 can eat the old cat food.
hannah claire brimelow
Are you gonna come out with a cookbook?
terrence kentrell williams
Yes, I am going to come out with a cookbook.
hannah claire brimelow
That'd be cool.
terrence kentrell williams
Yes.
ian crossland
You're going to make an augmented reality where I can put my phone on it with a barcode and I'll see it moving?
terrence kentrell williams
That's a good idea.
tim pool
No, no, better than that.
terrence kentrell williams
I might just do that.
tim pool
Better than that.
Cousin T pops up and tells you the recipe.
ian crossland
It's like a video.
A video will start playing overlaid over your book when it's scanning it.
Have you seen that tech?
That's wild.
terrence kentrell williams
No, I haven't seen that, but that's pretty interesting.
That's a good idea.
tim pool
We got to get Cousin T's diner up and running.
terrence kentrell williams
We do got to get a diner up and running.
So, uh... We gotta make this happen.
ian crossland
How would you do it?
Would you be the owner, and then you would have somebody run it, or would you actually want to run it?
terrence kentrell williams
Well, the first diner, I will be there a lot.
Because it's my brand.
I'm gonna be there.
But of course I'm gonna have somebody else to run it.
But I have to be there, though.
I have to be there.
tim pool
You know Salt Bae has the salt signature?
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, I can come do the... Pepper.
Do the pepper?
ian crossland
Black pepper, a little cinnamon?
terrence kentrell williams
Or maybe some syrup, do the... I don't know.
tim pool
Oh yeah, you know what you gotta do?
Like a bartender trick, but with a bottle of real maple syrup and you can spin it and then... You know what I mean?
You can do a trick where you get a bunch of shot glasses with syrup and then you pick them all up and turn them and put syrup on all the pancakes at once.
terrence kentrell williams
Tim, be careful.
You just told a black man to do a trick.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
No, no.
Tim is Korean, so it's okay.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's more friendly advice than anything.
tim pool
Hannah Clare and Ian wouldn't be allowed to.
hannah claire brimelow
Serge probably could on this continent, but other continents not so much.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, but that would be nice.
Cousin T's Diner.
tim pool
All right.
XSidman says my smart light bulbs turned themselves off.
Turned themselves on last night after midnight.
Cyber attack?
Nah.
Solar flare?
Maybe.
Freaks me out a bit.
That's weird.
hannah claire brimelow
Get rid of the sun, fix this problem.
tim pool
We used to have the smart light bulbs where you could make them change colors and you could, like, command them by voice to Alexa.
It was really cool because you would tell the machine, like, make the lights red and then the lights would turn red.
But we don't have them anymore because it's just impossible to have for such a big building.
ian crossland
Yeah, we were having electrical issues with those bulbs.
I tried to work them into our living room.
tim pool
But it's because we have, like, 50 light sockets now in this massive building, so it doesn't work.
It works when there's, like, four of them.
hannah claire brimelow
I just think too many things are connected to the internet.
Like, they'll have those fridges where it has a screen and they're like, oh, well, you can say, add, you know, butter to my... I hate them.
Just write it down.
Just, it doesn't need to be this complicated.
ian crossland
I feel like that with cars.
I haven't jumped into the whole digital thing of screen on my car yet.
I still have an old car from 2006 and I'm like, I Oh, I hate the see-through fridge.
tim pool
Hey, this is uh...
Brad Peters.
Brad Peters got a really good superchase.
If Trump's buildings are massively undervalued, is he entitled to a huge refund on the property taxes he
paid?
That means he could probably file, uh, um, what do you call it?
When you, uh, when you fix your...
When you, when you redo your tax return and refile.
Yeah, he should be able to refile everything based on what the evaluations they claimed
they were and get a bunch of money back.
unidentified
But then they may say criminals are not allowed to refunds.
tim pool
Or they'll apply the taxes to the fine.
So this is news we didn't get into.
They're denying Trump's request for a delay for the appeals process.
He's got 30 days to pay the $454 million.
It's $454 not $354.
Otherwise they're gonna seize his buildings.
ian crossland
Oh, did they say that?
tim pool
They said they're prepared to seize his buildings, and then the judge said you have 30 days to pay $354,000,000 plus $100,000,000 in interest and $87,500 additional per day you don't pay.
terrence kentrell williams
So he's not allowed to appeal?
tim pool
He's appealing, yeah.
But he's got to pay the fine first.
ian crossland
And then he might get it back.
terrence kentrell williams
And then he may get a refund.
tim pool
If he wins on appeal.
Dude, they're evil.
They're evil people.
Judge Engron is an evil, evil guy.
ian crossland
I kind of agree.
Engron really rubbed me the wrong way when he smiled and smirked at the camera.
hannah claire brimelow
And he took off his glasses and he was like... And didn't his wife post all kinds of anti-Trump stuff on the line?
There's obvious bias.
He should have recused himself.
He didn't recuse himself.
I'm not sure there's a judge in New York that could give Trump a fair trial, but it's crazy.
But that's where we are.
tim pool
All right, what do we have?
Jace's a friend of mine claimed that her husband works at AT&T.
He said they did an update to a router and it failed along with its redundancy.
I haven't heard anything else to confirm though.
Yeah, I don't believe it.
I've also had been contacted by individuals who claim that it's a cyber attack, but I've not confirmed that either.
And so I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, you know, we get a lot of messages.
hannah claire brimelow
AT&T is the one pushing the solar flare thing.
tim pool
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
It's beyond our control, the sun.
tim pool
Problem Girl says, Stand Your Grounds really is delicious, plus Butter Pecan Moonshine to taste.
unidentified
Oof.
tim pool
Switched from BRCC Medium Roast.
It can't be overstated how much better it is.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
Stand Your Grounds is really good.
But Appalachian Nights is my favorite coffee just ever.
ian crossland
Should you do a brand, one called Irish Coffee, and then have it be Seamus's brand, but it doesn't have any alcohol in it?
tim pool
Well, so we actually, we sampled a whiskey-flavored coffee, and it didn't work.
serge du preez
Oh, really?
tim pool
Yeah, so we tried.
And then we're, I don't know where we ended up with Seamus's.
ian crossland
I love that guy.
Seamus, come back!
tim pool
He was supposed to, but then he just ditched us.
ian crossland
Get over here.
hannah claire brimelow
What the heck, why?
tim pool
Yeah, well, because he hates us.
hannah claire brimelow
On record, Seamus hates us, it's confirmed.
tim pool
Quan Shin says gun advocates need to stop using Luke 2235 to support getting personal arms.
You have to read the end of verse 38 where Jesus says, enough, when his disciples say they've had two swords.
Jesus scolds Peter for cutting the captor's ear.
Yes, but we talked about this yesterday.
Jesus told them not to defend him because his time had come.
He knew what he was doing.
But they need to defend themselves.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Wes Nile says, the poles are shifting.
This is causing Earth to be susceptible to solar flares.
We have two massive ones hit Earth last night.
Nice these poles flip, we're in deep-ish.
ian crossland
I think that, I don't know if they were actually massive.
I don't know if you would call those solar flares last night massive, but they were notable, according to that website we were looking at earlier.
serge du preez
What, the class X?
Doesn't that mean it is a big one?
I don't know.
ian crossland
They said it wasn't big enough to shut down all this tech, though.
tim pool
Well, these are precursors to the big one, which is coming.
ian crossland
That's what Ben Davidson was saying when he came on.
He's like, it's just a matter of time.
Teach your kids now, get them prepared.
tim pool
But what if, because of the understanding of the big solar flare, the deep state's just like, we can't let Trump win, so come August, we will EMP this country and claim it was a solar flare.
Or they'll EMP the world.
serge du preez
It's also possible.
terrence kentrell williams
I don't put anything past these people.
serge du preez
Me either.
terrence kentrell williams
You never know.
tim pool
Put the world back to the Ice Age?
I mean, look, if they really believed in climate change and destroy the planet, why wouldn't they?
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't know they have the capability to actually launch an EMP attack all over the world and shut down everything.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's go!
I'm a pharmacy technician and the insurance outage has been absolutely painful.
I couldn't bill state Medicaid.
A lot of vulnerable people have been affected.
I felt awful having to break the snooze.
Wow.
B2 the Rock says the best pancakes ever.
I gotta be honest.
terrence kentrell williams
Appreciate it.
tim pool
They're the best pancakes.
terrence kentrell williams
They are some really good damn pancakes.
tim pool
They're, I mean, good?
I think they're the best.
terrence kentrell williams
You gotta, see you got chickens out there in the back.
You gotta try to fry chicken batter, Tim.
tim pool
We haven't killed them yet.
terrence kentrell williams
You gotta kill one of them, I'm sorry.
unidentified
Somebody's gotta be sacrificed.
tim pool
We want to do the roosters.
ian crossland
Cousin T's sacrifice, we'll call it.
tim pool
Yeah, so we want to slow cook, pressure cook the roosters.
terrence kentrell williams
I want to fry one of them.
tim pool
The problem is they're layers, they're not broilers.
So broiler chickens are the ones that get big, fat, and meaty, eat them.
Layers are the ones that lay eggs.
So these are all egg chickens.
terrence kentrell williams
But you can fry anything.
tim pool
That's true.
terrence kentrell williams
There's no excuses, we can fry anything.
tim pool
You know what we should do?
hannah claire brimelow
We should, I got an idea though.
terrence kentrell williams
So fry roosters and pancakes.
tim pool
Let's slow cook a rooster, and then fry it with the mix.
terrence kentrell williams
That'd be good.
That'd be really tasty.
ian crossland
I'm just picking the world economic forum to talk about us like that.
Like, we should, let's fry, not that they eat humans, I'm not even saying it has to be the world, but like the way we're talking about those animals out there, they don't know we're talking about them, and we're like, we're gonna eat one of them.
You think there's people on earth that act like that about other humans?
terrence kentrell williams
Probably so, yeah.
ian crossland
I wouldn't be surprised.
We should cook, if not eat, just like catalyze, do whatever.
tim pool
Alright, Revenz Padawan says the Army Corps of Engineers have been prepping for an EMP-like attacks for 60 plus years, comms will be back in 72 hours, and power in major cities within a week.
ian crossland
Okay.
The first three days can be a bit chaotic, so be prepared.
tim pool
If these people really think that climate change will destroy the planet in two years, they have every incentive to try and launch an EMP to destroy human technology.
ian crossland
Except it could catalyze a nuclear war, which would be even worse for the climate.
tim pool
No, the EMPs would shut down all the nukes.
ian crossland
Maybe not all of them, though.
And it could cause so much chaos that big explosive weapons are needed, feel like they're needed to be used.
unidentified
No, that's true.
tim pool
I'm sure Russia and the United States have EMP-shielded nukes.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
Capable, off the grid, capable of launching deep underwater.
unidentified
Yep, yep.
tim pool
Oh yeah, for sure.
Nuclear submarines.
serge du preez
Subs already, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, those subs armed with nukes, nuclear torpedoes or whatever, they're not going to be hit by an EMP.
serge du preez
No, I bet they're Faraday caged inside anyway, so.
tim pool
Well, it's the water.
serge du preez
Yeah, it's water too, yeah.
terrence kentrell williams
Does anybody here have a bunker?
ian crossland
No, I got a Faraday cage in my fanny pack though.
terrence kentrell williams
You have a bunker?
ian crossland
Yes.
terrence kentrell williams
Can I go?
tim pool
No.
terrence kentrell williams
If this shit hit the fan, Tim, let me in the damn bunker.
tim pool
You know how many people want to come in the bunker?
terrence kentrell williams
I don't give a damn, Tim.
unidentified
Let me in the bunker.
hannah claire brimelow
You don't have to say he was the last person in the room to be like, yes, I have a bunker.
unidentified
Come on.
hannah claire brimelow
It's all booked up in there.
tim pool
Yeah, it's huge.
And you don't know where it is.
terrence kentrell williams
But not everybody can cook, Tim.
I can come.
I cook y'all pancakes every morning.
hannah claire brimelow
You're making like an apocalypse resume.
unidentified
I'm just being like, look, I have skills.
tim pool
I don't think anything's gonna happen that would result in anyone needing to be in a bunker, even if a bomb dropped on D.C.
or something.
hannah claire brimelow
We're outside the blast zone.
tim pool
We're outside the blast zone for almost every single nuclear-capable weapon.
The wind patterns of where we are keep us safe, and the water flow and all that.
hannah claire brimelow
You live in a city though, right?
ian crossland
Where are you located?
terrence kentrell williams
Houston, Texas.
Yeah, that'd be tough.
ian crossland
Yeah, well, I like having you around.
tim pool
Alright, let's read this.
Brian Egan says, Ian, I was catching up on the show you mentioned, Cymatics.
Reminded me of Nigel Stanford's song, Cymatics.
If you haven't seen the video, I highly recommend it.
It has a hair-raising ending.
unidentified
Oh, that's cool.
ian crossland
Nigel, what was that guy's name?
tim pool
Hey, at midnight, so we're talking about 2 hours and 10 minutes, Eyes of Advice will be live on YouTube at TimCastSongs, so go on YouTube, search for TimCast, TimCastMusic or TimCastSongs or whatever, subscribe to the channel.
Video starring Ian!
ian crossland
Yeah, you gotta watch it tonight, because I'm gonna talk about it on the show tomorrow and I don't want to spoil it for you, so watch it.
I'll tell you about the acting experience behind the scenes and what it was like.
tim pool
Matthew Schneider says, does Cousin T sell waffle mix?
Yes, I do.
I love pancakes, but I love waffles more.
Well, can't you use the pancake mix to make waffles?
terrence kentrell williams
Uh, yes you can.
tim pool
But it's like a different recipe.
terrence kentrell williams
But it's a different, it's a different recipe and it has a different taste.
But yes.
Y'all go to CousinTs.com.
I got waffle mix.
I got biscuit mix.
I have jellies.
Now, the fried chicken and the waffle mix will go great together.
Fry some chicken, put it on top of the waffles.
It is going to be good.
ian crossland
What is it about the waffles that makes them better and more tasty with the chicken?
terrence kentrell williams
I wouldn't say which one.
They both taste great.
ian crossland
What is the waffles?
How are they different?
terrence kentrell williams
The waffles are a little bit sweeter, though.
I will say that.
The waffles are a little bit sweeter.
ian crossland
So, do you know what ingredients make it different than pancake mix?
Is there something specific that goes into it?
unidentified
You know, you add a different amount of eggs and like, to make it rise and stuff.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
So, okay, so the waffle mix is more complete.
It's more complete.
So, um, now you can, now, now with the, with the pancake mix, you can add water to, you can just like just add water, but you can also add eggs and all of that.
But with the waffle mix, eggs are already added.
Yes, I already have like eight.
Yeah, so it's more of a complete mix.
Yeah, but you don't have to add eggs to the pancake mix.
But you can, but the waffles, you don't need to at all.
Alright!
tim pool
A free-thinking dog says, Telecom worker here.
We're treating it as an attack.
Providers rent out bandwidth to other providers.
If ATT is only attacked, it can still impact customers across multiple carriers.
Interesting.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think it's righteous to treat it as an attack, even if it's not.
tim pool
Admar says, Terrence, my man, if you create your own flower, please put out a product similar to King Arthur flower.
They have quality flower but went all racist.
terrence kentrell williams
You know, I was thinking about doing that and having a competition.
And Tim, maybe you can put in, because I'm going to need some help paying this, giving money away.
tim pool
Well, for sure.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
But if you make a flour that uses non-pesticide wheat, you should do that.
terrence kentrell williams
Non-pesticide wheat?
tim pool
No pesticide.
So there's a lot of people who think that celiac disease is actually just like glyphosate and other pesticides.
And so instead of having that whole argument, just produce high quality organic wheat that doesn't use any of the GMO, any of the garbage.
hannah claire brimelow
The guy who started Bob's Red Mill is gone now, so you've really got a shot to go to the top of the market.
ian crossland
It was that organic King Arthur flour was some of the best.
tim pool
What did they do specifically?
ian crossland
Well, I got it pulled up.
They had a competition called Baking Pitch Fest 2024 called Perfect Potluck, and they said it's for person of color-led businesses.
You had to be eligible.
terrence kentrell williams
How much money were they giving away?
Like $5,000 I think?
ian crossland
I didn't find yet.
tim pool
Timcast is a minority-owned business.
terrence kentrell williams
It is?
unidentified
Yeah.
terrence kentrell williams
I'm a black brother.
tim pool
I'm Korean.
terrence kentrell williams
I need to get mine.
tim pool
You should go on Google and put, you know, you can register your business as minority-owned.
terrence kentrell williams
Now do you get any benefits for that?
tim pool
I don't know.
You earned ESG score, maybe.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
Something like that.
ian crossland
Did you put minority-owned business?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
No, because I don't want to publish the address to all the different businesses.
ian crossland
I don't like putting my race on stuff.
tim pool
Now, what if... Maybe for Casper.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, there's no benefit for you.
ian crossland
I guess not.
unidentified
I don't know.
ian crossland
I just feel weird saying it.
Like, I'm not from the Caucasus.
tim pool
That is always weird.
I always thought it was weird that they say Caucasian, but it's like no one's from the Caucasus region.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I don't mind listing my race on stuff.
I just know that ultimately it's... For me, there's no benefit, right?
It's always gonna be a bad thing that I'm white in this culture.
I don't mind telling you that I'm white, but you can't say anything.
terrence kentrell williams
You can't do anything.
There's no benefit, but I'll tell you.
Yeah, you can't even get it.
You can't even be involved in a baking competition.
hannah claire brimelow
I grew up with this girl.
terrence kentrell williams
You can't bake no biscuits.
hannah claire brimelow
No, I'm not.
I grew up with this girl who was donor-conceived.
Her mom used to be a sperm donor.
And this sperm donor had left off a lot of stuff about his race.
So when she was applying to high schools and colleges, her mom always had her check Hispanic because of their name.
tim pool
But Hispanic just means you speak Spanish.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, at the time, we didn't know this, and her last name was Italian, but it looked like it could be Spanish.
And my mom was like, just check the boxes.
It's better for you this way.
terrence kentrell williams
I was wondering about the minority-owned, if you signed up for that, what's the benefits?
It's Black History Month!
Nobody told me happy Black History Month.
They're not giving out Black History Month discounts.
There is just no benefit to this celebration.
tim pool
The definition of Hispanic, according to Oxford, is a Spanish-speaking person living in the U.S., especially one of Latin American descent.
Especially.
So that means if you're a Spanish-speaking person in this country, you're Hispanic.
Ian!
Mi amigo!
ian crossland
You see?
tim pool
That's it!
That's all I needed.
ian crossland
Uh, okay.
terrence kentrell williams
¿Cómo estás, Paco Nacho?
ian crossland
Muy bien.
tim pool
¿Dónde está la biblioteca?
unidentified
No sé.
terrence kentrell williams
I am not Hispanic.
hannah claire brimelow
You're getting more minority by the minute.
unidentified
That's right.
ian crossland
This is crazy.
tim pool
I am a Hispanic Korean American.
hannah claire brimelow
Wow.
ian crossland
There you go.
tim pool
Do I get a scholarship or anything like that?
terrence kentrell williams
When I was in South Carolina, you were like... Well, you know New York City's giving, what, the $53 million they're putting on credit cards to give to migrants?
$10,000 per person.
I just made a video about that.
$10,000 per person!
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But we don't know if that's $10,000 in total cost to get for the program or if they're literally giving them a $10,000 gift card.
Because some people are saying they're giving them a debit card with $10,000 on it.
It might be a debit card with $3,000 on it, but it costs $10,000 to facilitate the program.
terrence kentrell williams
They shouldn't be giving them a damn thing.
tim pool
They should be giving them a ride.
terrence kentrell williams
A ride back home!
Shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And even that it's asking a lot, right?
ian crossland
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
terrence kentrell williams
More Americans should be mad about that.
unidentified
Why?
terrence kentrell williams
More Americans should be mad.
hannah claire brimelow
I think more Americans are mad about it than they ever have been, right?
Like, it is interesting how people have woken up to, like, when people come here illegally and are given benefits that you're paying for, you suffer.
I feel like there are more people who are awake to this than ever, or at least in New York City.
serge du preez
There's people on the left, too.
People on the left are realizing that all those things that should be afforded to me are not coming to me anymore.
hannah claire brimelow
There were a bunch of shelters in Boston that were turning out, like, turning away Native, like, people, American citizens who are homeless or experiencing domestic violence because they need the beds for the migrants.
terrence kentrell williams
All the black people that's been asking for reparations should be pissed the hell off.
tim pool
Well, they are.
Did you see what they're saying in Chicago?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
They're saying they're being replaced.
terrence kentrell williams
I thought I saw something, yeah.
tim pool
They said they're being replaced.
hannah claire brimelow
It's a great replacement.
terrence kentrell williams
They've been asking Chicago for reparations forever.
No, we ain't got, we don't have any money.
But we do have money to give to these illegal immigrants who need our help.
Damn, what about us?
hannah claire brimelow
It's a crazy accounting system where it's like, there's no money, but actually now we have it if you're in this plight.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, it's like a spit in the face.
ian crossland
Yeah, the AOC was like tweeted out.
These people are fleeing tyranny or something about people fleeing like tyrannical governments, but they're just economic migrants.
A lot of them are economic migrants.
So this whole fleeing tyranny thing is not real.
hannah claire brimelow
And all the NGOs that help the crop, they say, you know, claim asylum when you get here.
It's going to take years to prove it and it doesn't matter.
ian crossland
Oh, man.
tim pool
What do we got?
What's this?
Jason Hutchinson says, when the George Floyd incident happened, they originally posted about seven minutes of what was almost a 40-minute long encounter.
Right.
And then the full video ended up getting leaked.
Someone published the full video where you could see George Floyd in the car saying, take me out of the car, take me out of the car, put me on the ground, put me on the ground.
ian crossland
He was saying, I'm gonna die.
He said that in the car.
He was yelling out that he was gonna die.
tim pool
He was chewing on a speedball.
And he had a heart issue.
serge du preez
Saying I can't breathe before any knee was on his neck as well.
That's a very notable thing that I noticed.
When I first saw that leak, I saw that he didn't say that at all until... He said it way before we ever had any police contact, like people were indicted for, not indicted, but charged for.
ian crossland
Yeah, he was complaining about not being able to breathe before.
And they did two autopsies on him, which was misleading.
Yep.
tim pool
JD says, Elon should buy Vice for libs of TikTok.
So Vice is going to keep the domain and they're going to still exist.
So Vice.com will probably just be like a placeholder for their production.
And then they said they might sell to Refinery29 or something like that.
I have no idea what that means.
So Vice still exists as a company, it's just basically a shell of what it used to be.
terrence kentrell williams
Do you think, uh, who owns Aunt Jemima Pepsi?
Do you think they would sell me that name?
You think they'd sell me her name?
unidentified
Nah.
terrence kentrell williams
Probably not.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, you're a minority-owned business, so they should.
tim pool
I think you should just use it.
terrence kentrell williams
You think I should just use it?
tim pool
Well, they abandoned it.
unidentified
So, if you start using it... Tim, I'mma use it.
tim pool
You talk to your lawyer.
terrence kentrell williams
No, I'm talking to you, Tim.
tim pool
Take a look at this.
This logo, that I'm holding up, for 50 years was the most iconic image in skateboarding.
It still is.
But the company abandoned the trademark, and they've rejected it, denounced it, and called it racist.
terrence kentrell williams
You're right, because they have to use it.
They have to use the image.
tim pool
And if they stop using it, and they say they're not going to use it, they've abandoned it, and I can use it, and we've been using it for, I think, like a year now, and they've not said a thing about it.
terrence kentrell williams
What if they're using it in another country?
But I guess when you are doing a trademark... That's a different filing in a different country.
A different filing.
Yep.
Okay.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
All right, everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends.
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So put the kids to bed and come hang out.
As a member, you can submit questions and actually call in to talk to us and our guest.
So do that.
You can follow the show at TimCastIRL.
You can follow me personally at TimCast.
Terrence, do you want to shout anything out?
terrence kentrell williams
Uh, yeah, um, y'all make sure y'all come to this after show because I'm feeling, I'm going to be doing a lot of cussing.
But go to CousinTees.com and get some of my pancakes, y'all.
They are so damn good.
Um, get the fried chicken mix.
I'm taking the box that I gave to Tim back.
So there'll be an extra one on the website for you.
So go to CousinTees.com and get some great pancakes.
ian crossland
It was Cussin T. I was like, oh, is it Cussin?
terrence kentrell williams
Cussin T's.
No, I thought it'd be Cussin.
I get to cuss for real.
I get to really let it all out.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, we got to get to the after show.
We got to do this.
terrence kentrell williams
I've been waiting for that.
I came for the after show.
hannah claire brimelow
Okay, well then everyone should go to the after show.
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
I'm a writer for scnr.com.
That's Scanner News.
You can find all of our work at TimCastNews on Instagram and Twitter.
And you can follow me personally on Instagram at hannahclaire.b and on Twitter at hcbrimlow.
One day I'll make this the same thing.
Ian, it's been fun to see you.
ian crossland
Well, you too, Hannah-Claire, and I also am like a lion in a cage, and we're about to open the gates, so get over there to TimCast.com to watch it happen in real time.
And, Terrence, you're like the American dream.
You are like an example of a human that came from, I wouldn't say nothing, but from what you would consider adversity, and now you're worth, I don't know how much money, I don't know if it's even public, but congratulations, and it's inspiring.
terrence kentrell williams
I am worth a billion bucks because I live in the greatest country, and I'm able to come from foster care and own my own business.
I mean, that's priceless.
Right on.
That's priceless.
ian crossland
Good to see you, man.
terrence kentrell williams
Thank you.
unidentified
I appreciate it.
ian crossland
Everyone else, check out Eyes of Advice on TimCast Music.
I think is that the URL?
tim pool
Two hours.
ian crossland
Two hours going live.
tim pool
Eyesofadvice.com will get you, I think, to the iTunes.
But yeah, at TimCastSongs on YouTube.
serge du preez
Subscribe now.
I'm Serge.com.
Pleasure seeing you always, Terrence.
Cheers.
Thank you.
I'll make sure to buy some Waffle Makes as well for Waffle Sensei as well.
He makes waffles too, waffles.
unidentified
There you go.
serge du preez
Yeah, cheers.
tim pool
We will see you all over at TimCast.com in about a minute.
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