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Congress WARNS Of RUSSIAN SPACE NUKES, BS Story To FORCE Ukraine War Vote w/Ada Lluch | Timcast IRL
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tim pool
You have been warned.
A serious warning has been put out by Congress that there is a national security threat for which must be declassified so the American people can know.
And according to all the latest reports, that threat is Russian space nukes.
That's right.
It's as crazy as Jewish space lasers, but the fear is that Russia is going to put nukes in outer space.
They haven't yet, but the American people must know.
And assuming that is actually what they're warning about, Yeah, spare me, dude.
I really don't care.
That's such, like, you know, we talk about it quite a bit on the show.
Nukes are like 100-year-old technology, or 80-year-old technology at this point.
They have much more powerful weapons, much more dangerous weapons.
I'm more concerned about the potentials of Havana Syndrome and maybe gain-of-function research, but okay, okay.
I mean, space nukes is scary.
Sure.
Many people think this is a ploy because the House is refusing to take up a vote on the Ukraine war funding bill so they can put out this ridiculous narrative that Russia, if they're not stopped, they're going to put nukes in outer space and that everyone's going to get scared.
Yeah, very few people are buying it, but that seems to be the big story.
Now, there is really big news from earlier in the day.
There's not as much to elaborate on, but it is a massive story, a mass shooting at the Kansas City Chiefs Super Bowl Parade.
Shocking story, so we will get into exactly what happened there and the updates that are going on with what happened.
There are many children who are injured.
I believe there's one death, and that is a rather tragic story, so we'll definitely get into that.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Ada Yuk.
unidentified
Hi Tim, thank you so much for having me.
tim pool
Who are you?
What do you do?
unidentified
Okay, so I'm Ada Yuk and I'm from Spain, as you can notice with my accent.
And basically, I married Joey Manarino, so that made me a conservative influencer.
But my real passion is holistic beauty and wellness.
tim pool
Right on.
Okay.
Well, thanks for joining us.
It'll be fun.
unidentified
Of course.
tim pool
Thank you so much.
We got Phil hanging out.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
We're here with Ian.
ian crossland
Hi, Phil.
Thanks for talking me in like that.
Always good to see you.
Good to see you, Ada.
Ian Crossland, you know me.
You love me.
Thanks for coming, guys.
See you soon.
unidentified
And, uh, I am Surge.com, uh, happy- What kind of Surge.com?
serge du preez
Right, yeah, you get where I'm going with this.
Uh, yeah, happy corporate fertility holiday to all of you guys as well.
Uh, I love you, Surge.
tim pool
Just as, like, completely nonsense, like, I'm gonna point it out anyway, there's that- Did you ever hear that song, Animal, by Mike Snow?
ian crossland
Yes!
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, you know that one where he says, I changed shape just to hide in this place?
I always thought it was better if he said heart-shaped shades.
unidentified
Cause I just like that idea better.
tim pool
Cool line.
Heart-shaped shades to hide in this place sounded so much cooler to me.
ian crossland
By the way, Mike Snow, if you don't know Mike Snow, check him out.
tim pool
Great band.
ian crossland
Really good.
unidentified
All right.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, let's talk about news.
So here's the story from the Daily Mail.
I hope you're in for a laugh riot.
Serious national security threat is, quote, Russia wanting to put a nuclear weapon in space.
Biden urged to declassify all materials after ominous warning from top Republican Mike Turner.
OK, here it is.
U.S.
House Intelligence Committee.
Today, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence has made available to all members of Congress information concerning a serious national security threat.
Quote, I am requesting that President Biden declassify all information relating to this threat so that Congress, the administration, and our allies can openly discuss the actions necessary to respond to this threat.
Of course, Russian space nukes.
And, you know, I gotta be honest, Mike Cernovich summed it up better than anyone else could.
Imagine believing this.
Okay.
So, you're telling me that a day after the Senate passes 60 billion dollars in funding for Ukraine, 14.7 or 15 whatever for Israel, plus funding for Taiwan, and the House says, no, you get this report that, well, actually, Russia's gonna put a nuclear weapon in outer space, so...
Yeah, we get it.
They're trying to create fear, panic, and pressure so that they can force the House to vote so that your money goes to war.
ian crossland
This is like Saddam Hussein with his chemical weapons in Iraq.
I remember that very well.
He's got chemical weapons and then weapons of mass destruction, weapons of mass destruction, and then they went and there were no weapons of mass destruction.
phil labonte
There were no nuclear weapons.
tim pool
I mean, they were like... They might have got rid of them.
ian crossland
They might have rushed them out the door before the inspectors got there.
phil labonte
There was the weapons that we gave them.
tim pool
But there is an argument about what does it mean to have a weapon of mass destruction, because some people have talked about chemical weapons or biological weapons, but the fear was that they'd have nuclear weapons or something.
You know, look, my friends in the deep state, it's not the Cold War anymore.
I was born at the end of the Cold War and I was but a wee child when the Cold War ended.
How old were you?
You're like what, like 10 years old than me, Phil?
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
So you were like, so how old were you when the wall came down and the Soviet Union collapsed?
unidentified
14.
phil labonte
Well, 89, 14.
tim pool
Yeah, so like you actually, like that happened and for me, I was like, eh.
I had no idea what was going on.
I think I was playing with Duplos or something.
phil labonte
I remember it.
It was crazy to think, because I was, and the funny thing is I was familiar with it.
I feel like I was familiar with it because I was a big fan of that movie Gotcha, where they were in eastern West Berlin and playing paintball.
That was like my first introduction to East Germany, West Germany.
But I remember it coming down and, you know, it was a big deal.
And I still feel like people have forgotten how big of a deal it was.
ian crossland
Yeah, it felt like war was over finally.
phil labonte
There was a lot of that and then you felt that way in the rest of the country too.
The military kind of changed the direction that they were going and that's one of the things that I heard, I think it was Ben Shapiro talking about it, talking about how in the 90s after the Soviet Union fell and after the fall of the Berlin Wall and stuff and kind of Communism people kind of were like, oh, communism is actually falling apart globally.
And it's going to be a new age of the United States is the only superpower and it's going to be a new world of, you know, liberalism and stuff.
tim pool
And when you guys were kids.
Was there a fear of a nuclear bomb dropping on your city?
phil labonte
For me, yeah.
ian crossland
Oh, there was?
phil labonte
Because, I mean, I lived right down the street from an Air Force base that had... Westover Air Force Base in Chicopee, Massachusetts has the longest runway in the Northeast.
ian crossland
Wow.
phil labonte
It's one of the alternate locations to land the space shuttle, and because of the length of the runway, B-52 bombers can land and take off and stuff from there.
So, That's a nuclear target.
If during the Cold War it was like, we're going to shoot that because they got to get rid of the- So I hear these stories from people older than me about the drills, duck and cover, Soviet nuclear bomb, nuclear war.
tim pool
But I grew up at, I mean, I'm a small child when the Soviet Union collapses and the wall comes down and all that.
And it was like, I vaguely remember like sitting in my basement maybe or something.
phil labonte
I never did duck and cover.
tim pool
No, but I mean, like, there was a fear of war.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And there was active proxy war going on.
But I'm saying, like, for my life, there was no fear of nuclear bombs dropping on anybody.
phil labonte
Yeah, makes sense.
tim pool
And so, I don't... Look, I'm gonna be 38 in, like, three weeks.
This idea of nuclear bombs in the sky does not resonate with me in any way.
When I was reading about the space race, because someone like Alex Stein here says the moon landing didn't happen, and then I'm going to read about the history of what's going on and why the U.S.
wanted to compete, and there was a fear that with the launch of Sputnik, Russia would put weapons in outer space.
And so I look at this and I'm like, it's been 60 years, dude.
I am not phased by this idea, because I already assume they have them in outer space.
phil labonte
Intercontinental ballistic missiles go into outer space to be able to get around the world.
That was the reason for the space race.
The military reason for the space race was to be able to put rockets into orbit and get them to come down where you want them to so you can put a missile into orbit and get the warhead to come down where you wanted it to.
So it was a dual purpose.
It was for space exploration and etc.
But also it was for learning how to use intercontinental ballistic missiles, because that's all rockets are.
ian crossland
I was just thinking that one of the reasons why I was never afraid in the 80s of nuclear war is because of Reagan.
And I didn't know much about politics.
I was like seven or eight.
But he was so friendly.
He seemed on TV so nice.
And he would joke.
And he seemed confident.
And I felt safe because the president was cool.
unidentified
Well, under Biden, you have to be scared.
Like, he's a puppet.
ian crossland
That's what it feels like.
tim pool
I suppose it's a fair point.
I'm not scared of Russia.
I'm scared of ineptitude from Joe Biden.
unidentified
I know.
Even in Spain, we laugh at him.
Like, you look at the U.S.
and it's a joke right now.
tim pool
How long have you been in the U.S.? ?
unidentified
For one year.
tim pool
One year.
So what's it like in Spain?
What's the perception of the Biden administration and the United States?
unidentified
Even my grandma laughs at him.
And she has no idea about politics.
You look at the U.S., what's supposed to be the strongest and most amazing country on earth, and you have a guy that cannot even speak English.
They speak better English than Joe Biden.
You do?
That's true.
So people laugh at the U.S.
tim pool
What about Trump, though?
unidentified
They respect him.
They can think he's an asshole because of the media, but they respect him.
It's a strong country under Trump.
tim pool
I feel like we're living under a cult, right?
I mean, I call the left a cult a lot.
But this narrative that they constantly put out, it's like, it's a parallel reality.
You know, it was Max Keiser and Stacey Herbert were talking about it, that they were overseas in the first Trump election in 2016.
And so they were like, oh, there's no way Trump's going to win.
Everything we've seen in the media says he's going to lose.
And then when they came back to the U.S.
and saw the signs everywhere, they were like, Trump's going to win.
Like the reality on the ground with people is so dramatically different from what the media has been showing everybody.
So in the U.S., they say Trump has made us a laughingstock around the world.
I've not really experienced that.
I'm not saying it's true.
I'm just saying in my experience, having traveled quite a bit during this time, I didn't experience this laughing stock.
I would say that I experienced one of two things.
Laughter.
Well, after in two forms, either at the expense of Trump a little bit, but not in this idea that everyone was laughing.
I would say it was actually, a lot of it was unease and concern of like, what's going on?
What's happening to the United States?
But there were a lot of people that I had met, and this one's extremely obvious.
The other experience I had, especially all over Europe, is we love Trump.
We need Trump here.
unidentified
So many people, the ones that do a little bit more of research rather than just looking at watching on TV, they love Trump and they are jealous of the US of when they had Trump and hopefully we'll have Trump again.
But most of the people that only watch the news on TV, they think that he's a bad person, that he does all these rude jokes, but they respect him though, because he looks strong.
tim pool
Well, yeah, he looks crazy.
Those are Trump's words.
When he said that Putin and Xi were scared that he would nuke them.
And he was like, I love that.
You've heard that voicemail?
Where he's like, I told Putin that if he invaded Ukraine, I would nuke Moscow.
And if Xi invaded Taiwan, I would nuke Beijing.
And he's like, I don't know if they believed me, maybe 5%, but it was enough.
ian crossland
And it's like, I debated Destiny last weekend and during the debate, near the end of the debate, the moderator Wick asked me, I think it was Wick asked me, what's the most fascist, because I claimed that we're in a fascism system right now, we have a system of fascism, and it's not all fascism or none, it's like a gradient scale, one to a hundred, and we're somewhere on that scale that's more than I'm comfortable with.
He was like, what's the most fascist institution in the US?
I said social media, but now after I thought about it, I think it's like this corporate media, this mainstream thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Because the images they put out are blatantly misaligned with reality in so many ways.
tim pool
I would love to.
I think I will qualify the following statement with, I would love to get a World War II historian on the Culture War show to discuss all of this.
Accepting that what I'm about to say is lacking.
I read, I think, two and a half academic papers on what Nazism was, what fascism was.
And so, typically when people refer to fascism, they're saying authoritarian.
But fascism actually had specific tenets.
And it was this, like, traditionalist, collectivist, authoritarian.
I would say that the economy we have right now under woke, like, I would say woke and Nazism are the same economic system.
Not ideological, necessarily, but similar.
And that is because when, you know, this was a few years ago I started reading academic papers on this stuff because, like I said, two and a half.
Not very extensive.
I was reading it because I kept hearing people say, like, the Nazis were socialists.
They were socialists.
And then the socialists would be like, they were not socialists, they were far right.
And I'm like, Okay, well typically far-right economics refers to like laissez-faire capitalism, you can do what you want with limited regulation.
And I don't think, or none, and I certainly don't think the Nazis were of no regulation.
And so I actually started reading about the economic standards and they had a, they had what's called a mixed economy, which is a portion of it is state-controlled and a portion of it is private-controlled.
But the system, the economic Nazi system was basically predicated upon social pressure and fear of extreme detriment should you defy social order.
phil labonte
And everything was for the state, too.
As much as they understood or they believed that it was better to have specialization in the economy, so they let private industry exist, but you had to line up with what the state wanted.
If you look at the economic system in Nazi Germany and the economic system in China right now, they're actually similar because China has people in the office of like, you know, QI or whatever, there's like a CCP Office there, or like a desk there, and the same kind of thing.
That's part of the reason why we had such a massive problem with the FBI guy being the head lawyer at Twitter before, because it was like FBI had a desk at Twitter.
tim pool
And this is the really interesting thing, the difference between the communists and the Nazis.
The communists are like centralized command economy.
Our guy will go in and tell you what to do.
And what happens then is you have an ineffective slow-moving system, which is struggling to produce.
The Nazis were like, yeah, yeah, do your thing.
But if we find out you're not doing things to support us, you will regret it.
And it's basically like cancel culture.
That's why when you said we're in a fascist system, I'm like, that was like Italy's system and there's an overlap for sure.
But I think the woke and how they run economics is very much like the Nazis in that if you have a company and you do not support the DEI stuff, they will pull loans from you.
Your ESG score goes down and now you're not getting financing.
This is the- It's a free market!
You can do whatever you want!
But if you defy us... Yep.
Very similar to what the Nazis were doing.
ian crossland
One of these things about the Nazi economy I was just learning a few weeks ago, a month ago, was that they were taking out, I think it was loans, they were getting huge amounts of money in and they were building, they would be like, we're building cars for our people, but they're building tanks.
They were lying.
They were obfuscating this military buildup for like five years or something and they were saying, we're revitalizing, and they were revitalizing their economy.
I put that in quotes because people had jobs.
People didn't even know what they were building.
They would just go in, they'd build tubes.
They didn't know they were building tank parts.
And the Nazis had no way to pay any of this money back.
They were not prepared to.
They were prepared to conquer their neighbors and then extract the wealth.
phil labonte
There's arguments that say that if the Treaty of Versailles wasn't so harsh on Germany, and so punitive on Germany, that you wouldn't have ended up with World War II.
That's part of the reason why people say that.
That's one of the things that people attribute a terrible thing to Wilson.
I think it's probably not really Wilson's fault.
He was supportive, but he wasn't like instrumental.
I think people are just like, one more reason to hate Wilson, why not?
The treaty was rough on Germany.
tim pool
Let's, instead of talking about World War II history, we'll go back to the news.
This happened earlier today.
We have breaking news here.
There's not too much to elaborate on, but we'll give you the basic details and we'll talk a little bit about it.
ABC News.
Bystanders tackled suspected Kansas City gunmen after shooting that left one dead and 21 injured, according to a witness.
There's actually video.
I don't know if you guys have seen the video, but let me slow down here.
Earlier today, Kansas City was celebrating their Super Bowl victory with their parade, large gathering of fans.
Very family friendly, as I understand it, except for when three suspects allegedly opened fire, striking 22, one person killed.
Now, I gotta clarify that statement.
Striking several people, someone died.
It has been clarified that the injuries may be the result of panic.
Not all people were shot.
But, uh, it's a sad story and, um... Man, it was worrying to see the breaking news, but...
Let's try and get some of the details here.
You can see in one video, I want to highlight basically what's going on.
I pulled up this story because I want to highlight the suspects.
Kansas City Mayor Quinton Lucas said there were 600 Kansas City, Missouri Police Department officers, 250 officers from outside agencies present at the scene.
The mayor spoke to the Kansas City chiefs who clarified their prayers are with everyone at the parade today.
About 1 million parade goers were expected at the celebration today.
So this is crazy.
Uh, police spokesperson, or, uh, who is this?
Uh, uh, Graves.
I was watching this all live, so I don't know the full name of the, uh, I believe's, uh, Kansas City chief, uh, police chief, Stacey Graves, said that she was angry, and the initial reports suggest that this was three guys who, uh, or the suspects had some kind of beef with each other.
I will, I will tell you this.
You know what I find very strange?
Can I just point out?
It's very strange.
I don't see anybody posted photos of the suspects who have been arrested.
Have you guys?
Here's an article from ABC News about the suspect, about a gunman being tackled.
And there's no, no, no picture or video of anybody being tackled.
phil labonte
That's because it was a gunfight.
Like dudes, it was probably like gang beef or something like that.
And a lot of people got caught in the crossfire on thank God, like more people didn't die.
Thank God there was well, hopefully more people don't end up dead.
But if it was actually an attack on the people there, the death toll would have been higher.
tim pool
But the question is, why are they writing stories about the suspects but not showing the suspects?
ian crossland
Oh, I mean, the obvious assumption is because it's their race and they don't want to inflame racial tensions.
tim pool
Well, and this is the narrative that's being inflamed right now.
And it's unfortunate because I don't, it's unfortunate that's the case.
But Ian Miles Chong says, these are the three alleged gunmen in cuffs at the Kansas City Chiefs Super Bowl parade mass shooting.
How quickly are they going to bury this?
And we do see, this video I don't believe shows, it does show three individuals.
Three young black men who are being arrested.
To clarify, we do not know that these men are the shooters.
My understanding is they arrested a lot of people.
It was being reported that their, what do you call it, the range at which they were arresting people was extremely wide.
They were basically like, detained now, whoever you might suspect, search them, if they're not the person we release them, but the narrative, the concern right now is, and I'm gonna say this outright, ABC News, I mean serious question, and I think people are gonna immediately jump to the racial component of it, ABC News runs a story saying the suspect has been tackled by bystanders, And they don't show the video of it?
And they don't show photos of it?
And so when you get people all over Twitter now saying like, hey, uh...
What's going on with this?
It fits the stereotype that the media will not show or will not talk about mass shootings or tragedies when the shooter is, you know, either not white or is LGBTQ.
Like, we just had the church shooting in Texas, and the story is falling off the corporate press so quickly when it turned out that it was a trans-identifying female who was abusing her kid.
So, I'm not saying it's absolute, but I am saying when you get people going online and complaining that when there is a mass shooting that is typically of identity the left is trying to utilize for political gain, those stories die off and then something like this happens, I can't say I'm surprised.
phil labonte
I don't have any kind of argument about the comments about racial stuff, but also the fact that if it was a gang-related one, it's not a rifle.
That means it's a handgun.
That means it's not useful to the gun control stuff.
ian crossland
I think one of them had a rifle.
phil labonte
Oh, really?
tim pool
I mean, let me pull up more details.
I think I was reading that there was at least one rifle, yeah.
phil labonte
Well, then I stand corrected if that be the case.
Gang shootings typically are not useful to the narrative that they're looking to push.
serge du preez
They report those as mass shooting events when in reality it's not really the case or the reality of the case on the ground.
phil labonte
They still want you to think...
There's hundreds and hundreds of school shootings per year.
That's the intent.
That's when they say mass shooting.
They want you to the imagery that comes up in your head is someone at a school, someone at a workplace with a rifle slaughtering people.
What really ends up happening with the vast majority of the mass shootings It's gang shootings.
Anytime two or more people get hit, get shot, then it's a gang shooting.
Or, I mean, then it's a mass shooting.
serge du preez
Exactly.
phil labonte
And that means if, you know, dudes are fighting over turf and they start lighting each other up and one dude gets hit and the guy behind him gets hit and the guy behind that gets hit with the, you know, same couple rounds or whatever.
That is considered a mass shooting and again it conjures up the idea of a mass shooter in a school slaughtering people with a long gun when really what it is is the same kind of street crime that people are familiar with and have been familiar with basically since So just to clarify, I had seen an article that I believe referenced or opposed something that said a long gun of some sort.
tim pool
I could be wrong.
I did a quick search for a couple articles.
I'm not seeing anything about the weapons they used.
ian crossland
You could clarify and call these school shootings mass executions, because the intention to go in and slaughter a bunch of people is executive.
Whereas a gang shootout, a bunch of people get shot, your goal wasn't to execute a bunch of people, it was to shoot and get your way.
tim pool
I disagree, because execution implies some kind of, like, just cause.
I'm against death penalty, but typically... What does that mean?
ian crossland
Does it mean that the victim is helpless?
Is that the execution?
Is that what makes it an execution?
phil labonte
Uh, actually, someone right now is... I just... tweeted at me, and they have a link, what looks like a person picking up an AR-15.
tim pool
Right, I... Okay, yeah, I'm pretty sure I read that there was a rifle of some sort.
phil labonte
I think so.
It looks like there's someone picking up.
It's not super...
tim pool
And this says to me I don't yeah, you know what what I was watching Fox and they were just like this may be Interpersonal if there's a rifle there.
I'm not so convinced.
This sounds like something else You know, I mean it could be gang related.
So there's industry behind it I'm not I'm saying like I don't think it's like some guy was cheating on some guy you like some girl or something like that Yeah in the middle of a parade Yeah.
unidentified
They wanted to kill people.
phil labonte
If you watch, so like, every once in a while I'll go and scroll through, like, videos of dudes, like, in the city with guns and stuff.
And you see dudes, a lot of times they'll be showing, like, Glocks with the switch for a fully automatic Glock and stuff.
But also, you do tend to see a lot of pistol AR-15s with just the buffer tube.
So, it's reasonable to say... But that looks like it's an actual standard long gun.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah, people, a lot of people don't know this, and I'm not going to pretend to be a gun expert, but there are pistols that look like rifles, and they're classified legally as pistols.
ian crossland
And I don't like the path of the type of weapon you have on you indicates your intent, so I don't want to make it sound like just because there was a rifle means that he was going there to kill a bunch of people, like he might have just been a gangbanger that had a rifle.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, the thing, if you're going to get into a gunfight, you want to have a long gun.
tim pool
Well, honestly, it depends on where you are.
phil labonte
Yeah, I tell you what, the professionals that enter houses, they carry our AR-15s, 10 and a half inch AR-15s.
Those are the guys that go in there and get into gunfights professionally.
They carry ARs, I'm gonna carry an AR.
tim pool
No, no, no, I don't disagree, but, you know, we're not talking, like, you don't want a very long barrel indoors.
phil labonte
True, agree.
tim pool
You know, that's why it was funny when, like, Biden was saying get a shotgun, and it's like, Like look I got a 12 gauge Remington and it's massive and I don't I couldn't like that thing's not gonna be very effective indoors Maybe I'm wrong.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
I'm not I'm not a close quarters combat guy.
I don't know but pretty much You probably don't want one of those.
It's crazy how they restrict so many guns that are like I'll keep it super simple the idea that suppressors are restricted Look, it's crazy.
I know that if someone breaks into my house and tries to kill me, I'm gonna fire that gun, I will be deaf.
Like, it's so loud.
And you're indoors, and the echo, you're not going... But you can't get a suppressor.
It's just absolutely wild how difficult they make it to get a suppressor, which is basically increasing the safety.
phil labonte
In Europe, there are places where you have to have suppressors.
Right.
Where it's a safety issue because of sound levels.
ian crossland
Are guns legal?
What's the legality in Spain?
unidentified
I wish, I wish.
No, we are not allowed to have guns.
I guess if you're a hunter and you have some type of permission you can, but you cannot defend yourself.
So you guys are so lucky to have the Second Amendment.
ian crossland
Oh, do people have?
Like, do people get guns anyway and then go and make shootings?
unidentified
Just criminals, no, no.
ian crossland
But do criminals do that?
There still is that kind of crime?
unidentified
Yeah, but then we cannot defend ourselves.
The only person who have guns and are not like hunters are criminals.
ian crossland
What about the cops?
unidentified
And cops, but I don't know what their house.
I don't think they're allowed to have them in their house.
I don't know.
I have to check that.
tim pool
But here's the important thing.
Um, you say they're criminals, but even if they're not actively robbing or stealing, they are quite literally a criminal because guns are illegal.
unidentified
Yeah.
And they are carrying a gun, which is completely illegal.
ian crossland
Does it happen where there's like gun violence and people are just like enraged that they're not legally permitted to carry weapons to defend themselves?
unidentified
So the problem in Spain is that almost everyone is a socialist, and they believe in peace and freedom and, oh, no guns, but then when they get shot, they just cry, but they don't say, I want a gun.
Very few people, there's only one party, Box Party, that believes in guns and the right to defend ourselves.
ian crossland
Did it used to have the right to defend yourself with guns and then they were taken away?
unidentified
I don't think so.
We never did.
tim pool
Well, I mean, probably a really, really, really long time ago.
unidentified
Probably, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Hundreds and hundreds of years ago when guns were just like muscle-loaded muskets or whatever.
unidentified
But for example, right now I'm in my house and someone breaks in and I hurt this person, not even with a gun, with like a knife or something.
I am the criminal for defending my house and my property.
I would go to jail, not this person.
Actually, there's a case in Mallorca, one island in Spain.
That a 90-year-old man defended himself.
He had a gun.
Maybe he was a hunter.
And he was sentenced to go to jail.
But at the end, he didn't end up going.
But the 90-year-old man was supposed to go to jail for defending himself.
ian crossland
But then they overturned it?
unidentified
Yeah, because he was so old.
ian crossland
What about the guy that invaded the house?
What happened to him?
unidentified
Probably nothing.
We praise criminals in Spain.
tim pool
Yeah.
Well, since we're on the subject of guns, we do have a lot of other big political news, but since we're talking about guns, let's pull up this video, which is taking the internet by storm, with tens of millions of views, going viral.
serge du preez
This might be my new favorite.
tim pool
Ford Fisher.
New body camera footage shows Okaloosa County, Florida Deputy Jesse Hernandez declaring shots fired and I'm hit and shooting at the handcuffed, unarmed suspect inside of his police car.
He had not been shot.
Rather, it was determined that he heard an acorn drop onto the car.
Dude.
When I watched this video earlier today, I was laughing for like 20 minutes.
It is like Reno 911.
And look, I'm only laughing because nobody got hurt.
But it is two cops screaming and unloading their guns into their own vehicle because the guy hurt an acorn.
Look, so you're gonna hear gunshots, but for our friends who may be concerned and for the censors over there at YouTube, nobody got hurt.
Everything's fine.
Let's all calm down and watch the video and have a laugh.
Thankfully, nobody got hurt.
unidentified
These are trained professionals.
I love it.
Just so you know, he's breaking rules, guys.
phil labonte
He's breaking firearm safety rules.
Know your target and what's around it.
unidentified
He's like, I'm hit!
He has no idea what he's shooting at.
I love that he's like screaming that he's been shot and he hasn't been shot.
Check out his own movie.
tim pool
You know what I think happened?
ian crossland
He rolled on like a stone.
unidentified
Yes!
phil labonte
Yes!
tim pool
Yup!
I think when he did those two combat rolls for no reason.
ian crossland
Gravel.
tim pool
He rolled over a rock which pushed into his back and he's like, I got me in the back!
Dude, just him, when I first watch this, I'm kind of like, don't you need to assess the situation and try and figure out if there was a gunshot, where it's coming from?
And the fact that there was no gunshot, why are you unloading your magazine into your own vehicle?
Like, if there was a shot, it could have come from somewhere else, perhaps.
Unreal.
So there's more.
Wait, wait till he says, I'm good.
unidentified
The adrenaline is pumping right now.
serge du preez
I guess I wasn't shot.
unidentified
Right?
tim pool
How embarrassing.
unidentified
I'm good!
I feel weird, but I'm good!
phil labonte
Do you know your tag number off the top of your head?
tim pool
Check this out, here's the video from the perspective of Sergeant Beth Roberts.
Okay, I'm going to rag on her a little bit less, because there is a certain reasonableness
to your partner screams, shots fired, I'm hit, and you say where, and they point, and
you assume that they are correct, but it is still equally insane.
unidentified
Do you know your tag number off the top of your head?
Okay, it's okay.
They're shooting at each other.
tim pool
Can I just, can you just like, okay, look, there's the guy, here's her gun, she's aiming,
he's, she could hit him.
phil labonte
I don't know how long these officers have been on, you know, on the job or whatever,
unidentified
Bye.
phil labonte
This is not a well, these are not well-trained officers.
serge du preez
No.
phil labonte
Like you don't start shooting without knowing what you're shooting at.
tim pool
We've all seen Reno 9-1-1, right?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
You maybe not have, you know, because you've only been in the US for a year, but it was a show where it was like, I mean the guy from Reno 9-1-1 just did a Super Bowl commercial.
serge du preez
Yeah, literally.
tim pool
It's basically this like laughably bad police department.
And the idea of a guy hearing an acorn rolling on the ground twice, screaming, shots fired, I'm hit, and then just unloading every bullet he has into his own car is like a sketch out of Reno 911.
ian crossland
I've been doing tactical training in Florida with Luke Rutkowski, and one of the things that they have been teaching me and all of us is that cops aren't getting enough real-life gunfighting training.
They get a lot of range training.
Well, I don't even know if they get a lot, but they get like range training, just shooting.
You're supposed to, like, not flip out.
Literally, he flipped out, dude, when he heard a noise.
serge du preez
That's the crazy thing for me.
They heard a noise.
You say shots fired into your radio to let your dispatch know that shots are fired.
You don't just yell shots fired.
tim pool
I got a conspiracy theory.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
What if this cop was trying to kill the suspect?
serge du preez
Whoa, dude.
tim pool
And so think about it.
An acorn hitting a car?
There is no... Look.
There's like a report, Ford Fisher posted as well, where they're talking to him like, perhaps it was the sound of this acorn hitting the car that you thought was a gunshot.
And he's like, I don't think so, maybe.
I don't believe.
I don't believe it.
I don't believe that is the simple solution.
That a cop heard an acorn hit his roof.
And assumed someone fired a gun from inside the car because he has one, he's used it, he's done some training with it, he knows what they sound like, and there's no way.
I'm wondering if he just screamed that, because think about this.
You, this cop, let's hypothetically say, cop A wants to murder a suspect, but he doesn't want to go to prison.
Here's a simple solution.
You scream shots fired.
I'm hit.
Your partner then unloads into the suspect.
unidentified
Oh, and you let the partner hit the person?
tim pool
But the partner's gonna be like, I heard him scream shots fired and I'm hit.
Then he says, I heard a gunshot.
I didn't shoot anybody.
So what happens?
The ruling here was that the cop who screamed I'm hit was not reasonable in his use of deadly force.
He was not criminally charged.
No wrongdoing.
He ends up resigning.
His partner, it was deemed, was reasonable when she nearly murdered a guy sitting in his car.
Imagine that scenario.
A cop wanting to kill someone screams, shots fired, shots fired.
The partner kills the suspect.
And then when it comes down to the internal investigation of what happened, he says, I heard a shot.
I didn't shoot him though.
I didn't do anything.
Your partner goes, he said shots fired and I'm hit.
So I defended him.
And they're gonna say, okay, good, clear, good to go.
ian crossland
It's like the Departed, that movie.
I just, I don't think a cop would go through a lifetime of training and becoming a cop just to find one random guy.
Lifetime?
tim pool
Who said that?
serge du preez
He's got a lifetime of training.
ian crossland
Well, whatever, five years of becoming a cop.
tim pool
Woah, woah, woah, woah.
That was a major assumption.
I never said anything like that.
ian crossland
Like what?
tim pool
That a cop decided to go through a lifetime of training to become a cop to kill somebody?
That's a grand leap from what I'm saying.
ian crossland
Well, that he would throw his entire career away, even in resignation, just to kill a guy that he's arresting.
tim pool
He literally threw his career away.
In fact, maybe someone came to him, I'll tell you what, you know what makes more sense?
ian crossland
This guy dropped his career on the ground.
tim pool
And why would he do that?
ian crossland
Because he's an idiot.
tim pool
Or someone offered him money to kill someone.
ian crossland
Or he's on SSRIs or something, I don't know.
tim pool
Or someone said, look, this guy, you kill him, I give you $100,000.
And he's like, okay.
I'm not saying literally that's what happened.
I'm saying, I don't see it as making sense that this cop did a double barrel roll, screaming shots fired, and then unloaded into this car trying to kill a guy.
ian crossland
You would get behind the car and under the bumper or something.
If the guy you think is shooting at you is in the car, locked in there, get under the car.
Don't run further away.
Do a roll on the ground where you're out in the open.
Like, what does he think?
He's going to dodge the bullet because he's rolling on the ground?
tim pool
I don't know about police training, but the hostile environment stuff I've done, it was always immediately seek dead ground or cover when shots are fired.
If you're going by a car, it's the engine block.
I don't understand why it was that he screamed, shots fired, remained in the open, and started shooting at the vehicle in the way he did.
What I kind of lean towards is, he just wanted to kill the guy.
Let's do the Dave Chappelle test.
Remember Dave Chappelle?
Cop hits a guy in the street and goes, oh crap.
Sprinkle a little crack on him.
Let's get out of here.
The gag being that, like, the cop will try and put the fault on the victim when they make a mistake.
phil labonte
Just bring a little crack on him!
tim pool
Yeah, that was like, his whole bit!
The cop accidentally hits a guy and he's like, what do we do?
He's like, yeah, just bring a little bit of crack on him and then we'll get out of here.
ian crossland
Is this, do you guys know what happened to this cop so far?
tim pool
He resigned.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Smart move.
But in what circumstance could you try to kill someone and then not get in trouble for it?
ian crossland
I guess if you're on a movie set.
That's an Alec Baldwin joke.
tim pool
Right.
The issue here is, the argument that the cops make and the pro-police make is, if a cop reasonably believes he's at risk of serious bodily harm or death, he must act to defend himself.
And sometimes they might get it wrong, but if you penalize officers for getting it wrong, they will second-guess themselves and die.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
It's true, that is true.
Officers need more training.
Um...
unidentified
What the fuck?
phil labonte
They need more, and they need more hands-on training.
Most likely what they need is they need some jujitsu and some more gunfight training.
Um...
If you're going to be an enforcer, I don't think the police should be the enforcers the
way that they are.
But when you get like, even like entry teams, right, like SWAT teams and stuff, those guys train a good amount compared to like your regular beat cops.
I do think beat cops should have guns because you know there are a lot of Americans with guns and there are a lot of people that want to you know shoot cops etc and stuff but they need more training with those guns and they should have as many options as possible.
I personally don't think that like and this isn't just about men like small men and women shouldn't be police officers.
You should be trying to get the biggest dude you can.
ian crossland
Yeah, you know that you'll learn right away if you're training that if a guy comes up to you and he's bigger and stronger than you and he grabs you or he has a knife and you can't push him away.
You can turn and run maybe, but if he's got a gun on him you don't want to do that either.
Or at least maybe you want to turn and then go sideways behind cover.
phil labonte
But cops don't have that option either.
Cops don't have the option of letting someone go.
ian crossland
They're forced to go towards the threat.
phil labonte
Yeah, they have to be able to take care of it.
So, you know, there should be more training for cops.
They should have more physical training.
And there should be fewer laws that they have to enforce.
So this is obviously not an enforcement side.
This is a political social side.
But there's no reason to have so many laws on the books that the police don't have any idea what is and is not legal.
And so they just go ahead and go with their best guess and just take them in just in case.
You know, you should have a reasonable understanding that you're reasonably free in a free country.
ian crossland
Did the partner also resign?
tim pool
The girl who unloaded?
I don't think so.
ian crossland
Okay, she was commanded, she thought her partner was about to get shot and killed, so I think she did the right thing.
As weird as that is.
tim pool
That's scary because like we're all laughing at this, these guys being really dumb or whatever, this guy, and I'm like, I don't know, what if he was trying to... I mean, like I was gonna say, he screams, rolls on the ground, Shouldn't he have like gotten behind the tree or found
unidentified
cover?
phil labonte
Yeah, the first, well I mean the very first thing you should be doing if, especially if you actually think that
you're hit.
Yeah, take cover.
You should be moving to cover if you can, the very first thing.
I mean, yeah, I guess, you know, draw, but like you shouldn't be trying to like barrel roll your way out of it.
tim pool
And then unloading in the open with no cover, just firing randomly at the scar.
If the guy actually had a gun, he would be returning fire.
I don't believe it.
I think this guy might have had some other intentions.
serge du preez
And you would have heard a gunshot go off nearby.
You wouldn't have to yell.
If she heard first, like, oh, shots fired, you'd hear the gunshot go off.
Especially being a cop.
tim pool
Well, now that we've gotten through a little bit of levity, let's talk about Trump's binders full of women.
The binder, of course, and the women are Lisa Page and Sally Yates, because the binder I'm talking about is... Oh, wait, no, the binder full of women, was that Romney?
phil labonte
Yes.
tim pool
Oh, that was Romney, not Trump.
So, here's the story.
Missing binder at center of new claim that CIA drummed up spy operation on Trump 2016 campaign.
This is a huge, explosive story.
Matt Taibbi, Michael Schellenberger reporting, I believe it's Michael Schellenberger's outlet public, that the CIA ordered foreign assets, the Five Eyes Spy Club, to spy on 26 Trump associates, essentially to create the Russiagate hoax.
This is, uh, I don't know what you do, Seditious Conspiracies?
phil labonte
Yeah, I don't know what- Who?
I don't know what the law is that was broken, but I know that the federal government using the CIA to spy on someone that's running for president is effing illegal.
Like, I don't know what the exact law that's being- But I know the CIA is not supposed to operate in the United States.
tim pool
So here's now the most interesting aspect of this.
There is a binder that apparently has all the information on this that is missing.
No one knows where it is.
I don't know that that's true.
It's being speculated that the binder containing information on the CIA operation to launch the Russiagate hoax has gone missing, and the speculation beyond that is Donald Trump ordered Crossfire Hurricane declassified.
This is basically the Obama administration spying on Donald Trump illegally.
Kevin Clinesmith, a lawyer, was criminally charged over fabricating evidence to get a FISA warrant against Carter Page.
This is a fact.
So the rumor now, or I should say the theory, is that Trump took the binder with the information when he left.
That's why they raided his home.
The reason why they're going after him is because he has documents pertaining to Crossfire Hurricane.
They want back because it will prove they committed crimes.
So let's start here.
Trump did order Crossfire Hurricane to be classified.
When he was right, when Mar-a-Lago was raided, many people initially speculated, I bet he's got documents pertaining to Obama's warrantless wiretapping and other spy activities.
Now this story is being dropped by Michael Schellenberger where they say they have numerous sources confirming the CIA did instruct the Five Eyes spy club, okay, that's foreign countries, to spy on the Trump administration and 26 associates.
They call it bumping.
Basically create a reason to spy on him and then they create Russiagate and then Trump took those classified documents and that's what's going on behind the scenes.
phil labonte
I mean, I would love for that to actually be true and to have the evidence and to actually be able to prosecute and actually start throwing people in jail.
I completely believe that the CIA was spying on Trump.
It's illegal.
There should be a recourse that the American people have.
It is likely that we don't, which means that we've lost control of the federal government, which is super awesome.
That's sarcasm.
So, it's frustrating.
ian crossland
Man, this is what they call intrigue, court intrigue.
Back in the day, I'd be like, who tried to poison the king?
He stole his lingerie from the woman and put it on the man to frame the guy that was having sex with his brother.
Court intrigue, and now we've got this bullshit.
tim pool
I'll give you the first little bit of the article.
It says, FBI agents raiding former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate in August 2022 may have been hunting for a 10-inch binder of declassified information detailing how former CIA Director John Brennan ordered the initial spying operation into Trump's 2016 presidential campaign.
So hold on a minute.
It is an established fact that there was spying on Trump's 2016 presidential campaign.
ian crossland
It's like Watergate.
tim pool
Now hold on there a minute, friends.
We have this from our good friends over at Wikipedia.
Allegations of Barack Obama spying on Donald Trump.
That's the Wikipedia article, and it reads, as part of a large baseless conspiracy theory, Donald Trump posited that Barack Obama had spied on him.
No, no, no, hold on.
Why does a Wikipedia article start that way?
phil labonte
Because it's literally written by leftists and Antifa people and all kinds of BS.
tim pool
99.9% of Wikipedia articles will start with, it wouldn't start with as a baseless, it would say, Donald, allegations of Barack Obama spying, blah blah blah, article, link.
The idea that they prefaced this as part of a large baseless conspiracy theory before they even mention anything else is very weird.
Considering we know for a fact he was spied on, and it was the Obama administration, This is very funny for Wikipedia to have an article that says this.
It gets better.
Spygate, parentheses, conspiracy theory.
See how it starts?
Spygate was a disproven conspiracy theory peddled by 45th U.S.
President Donald Trump and his political base on many occasions throughout his presidential term.
It primarily centered around the idea that a spy was planted by the Obama administration to conduct espionage on Trump's 2016 presidential campaign for political purposes.
Blah blah blah blah blah.
Here's my favorite thing.
Spygate WAS a disproven conspiracy theory.
unidentified
Huh?
tim pool
Why is it a was?
Why is it past tense?
Spygate is no longer a disproven conspiracy theory?
ian crossland
Neuro-linguistic programming.
They want you to forget about it.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no.
Why are they saying in the past tense that it was disproven?
Is it because it is no longer disproven?
ian crossland
It used to be disproven.
Now it's totally true.
tim pool
Well, but it is totally true.
From the Wall Street Journal, Trump really was spied on.
Durham says techies linked to Clinton campaign had access to White House and Trump Tower internet data.
The amount of spying that went on From the Obama administration and Democrat allies into the Trump campaign is historic record.
Kevin Clinesmith was criminally charged over this.
He falsified evidence to get a FISA warrant against Carter Page.
They were spying on him.
unidentified
There you go.
tim pool
Reality.
So I want to believe.
That what's going on now with this missing binder is true.
Part of me is just like, dude, they're going after Trump because they're trying to stop him from running.
The binder stuff is wishful thinking.
Maybe.
I do think it's reasonable to believe that Donald Trump took with him classified documents related to the Obama administration's crossfire hurricane, which was what they were spying on him and all that stuff.
Look at this.
They call it the counterintelligence investigation into Trump's 2016 campaign.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I think it's likely Trump did take documents from that and they want it back.
That's reasonable.
phil labonte
The investigation during the campaign, the idea that they clearly fabricated the whole Steele dossier.
There's not a debate about that.
That's been proven.
And people still, you know, we can't get Congress to actually do anything about it.
We can't even get Congress people to talk about, like, exactly what laws are broken and be like, look, this is, you know, to actually address this stuff, outline this is what happened, or this is what we think happened, and go down, you know, a realistic way to start an actual investigation.
tim pool
I think the reality is The Republicans and Democrats are the uniparty of the same thing.
It is 80, 89% of Republicans.
It is 97% of Democrats.
They are the same party.
Republicans pretend to be opposition as a pressure release valve so that people in this country who are tied to the corruption don't figuratively blow up.
And Democrats, the voters, are so intent on marching in lockstep, the Democrat politicians have no reason to do anything other than exactly what they want to do.
So you will get a few Republicans in Congress pushing back, and then you will have those in the know and informed feeling like pressure is being released.
Like, they impeached Mayorkas!
Let's go!
And then, of course, that's it.
I mean, there's not gonna be a conviction.
Nothing will happen.
It's symbolic, I guess.
It makes us feel good, but nothing changes.
ian crossland
I want to stop using the term third party when talking about the Libertarians or the Green Party or any other parties because that indicates that there's two parties and that there should be two.
And if there's any other ones, those are going to be third because the two is normal.
Two is not normal.
You're supposed to have as many parties as you want.
It's better than having something called the United Party that's all of them together in one big party and they're just right in your face about it.
I was thinking that we should start the United Party and be like, we're a uniparty anyway, let's just call ourselves, but that's like, When it becomes right in your face and there's still nothing you can feel like, nothing you can do about it, I think that's worse than at least, I think that's worse than when they're lying to you.
tim pool
I like, I just want to call them demoblicans.
ian crossland
That's a great term.
tim pool
It's a good word, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like people like to say republicrat, but I'm like, no.
Demoblican is better.
Demoblicans.
Because like demoblicans kind of sounds like goblin.
And mob.
And mob, you know, like demoblican.
ian crossland
And demon.
Yeah, it works.
unidentified
Demoblican.
tim pool
Demoblican.
You got Demon, you got Mob, you got Goblin.
You get them all in there!
Demobblican's the word, I'm telling ya.
There we go.
Well, we figured it out.
We've solved our conscious problem.
ian crossland
I think what they're doing, it's an instance of like, yo, we know it's bad, but if we expose it all, it's going to be worse.
So like, we just got to deal with the corruption we have.
That's what I think is going on.
phil labonte
I really do not think that it's a situation of, oh, we think it's bad, etc.
I think that the people that are in positions of power are fully aware of what's going on.
They're fully aware that they violate the Constitution.
They're fully aware that they are breaking the law and they don't care.
They have already proven to the American people that we can't do anything about it.
unidentified
Democrats don't go to jail.
No matter what you do, if you're a Democrat, you don't go to jail.
You can do any crime in this world.
Look at Hunter Biden.
phil labonte
Look at Menendez, right?
New Jersey.
Still, dude had Egyptian gold bars in soup pockets in his closet.
And he is still in Congress.
tim pool
And Democrats would not vote to get rid of him.
phil labonte
Yeah, they wouldn't vote to get rid of him.
tim pool
But then you get Republicans and they're like, Santos did what?
Well, we didn't prove anything yet, but we think he might have.
phil labonte
Ouch!
Santos clowned the hell out of Congress.
And honestly, he kind of clowned the heck out of the district that he's from, too.
And they're like, oh, you got to go because, what, because he clowned on people?
They didn't even, like Tim said, they didn't even prove it.
You know, Mendez is caught red-handed, but he's a Democrat, so it's fine.
This is the world we live in.
It is hierarchy, not hypocrisy.
Democrats are above the law.
The law only applies to people that are not in the party.
This is the beginning of an American cultural revolution where one party state will end up a one party state if they get the chance.
tim pool
See, they figured it out a long time ago.
We look at these other countries like North Korea and we're like, that's not a real democracy.
I love how they have their like fake candidate and then everyone just votes for Kim Jong-un or whatever.
In the United States, come on.
I made a meme 10 years ago.
It was a picture of, it's a guy and a woman sitting on a couch.
And there's a woman at the other end of the couch, and he's got his arm behind the couch, and the woman, he's holding hands with the other woman, while, like, he's got a girl leaning on his shoulder, but he's holding her behind the couch, and I'm like, this is what Democrats and Republicans are doing to you.
Let's jump to the story from SCNR.
How Republicans lost yesterday's New York special election to Democrat Tom Suozzi.
Analysts and politicos weigh in on what went wrong, and what it could mean for November's general election.
The gist of it is, you know, Frank Luntz is like, this is a warning to Republicans, the final warning.
If you don't shape up, you're gonna lose.
I'll tell you this.
First, every Republican, I think it was, what, 103?
Or was it 105?
I don't know.
They are in... Jeff Van Drew's on the list.
Jeff Van Drew, the guy who was a Democrat and switched the Republican Party.
Garbage.
And I would love for these people to come on this show so I can tell them to their face.
They are spineless jellyfish.
They are cowards.
And I will do everything in my power to advocate people do not vote for them and vote for someone to primary them.
Let's start getting primary challenges on these guys.
That's the first thing.
The second thing is, guys, it really doesn't matter all that much that Santos lost.
I do not believe this is indicative of anything having to do with November.
I am not scared about this.
I do think it's important that anybody who wants to see America First candidates win, you have to do the work now.
That being said, While everyone's screaming that Republicans are stupid and it resulted in a Democrat taking the seat, and Democrats are cheering, saying, aha, this proves it, we're gonna win in November, I'd like to show you New York's 3rd District.
The election that just happened.
Tom Suozzi vs. Mozzie-Melissa Pillup.
The Democrat wins.
unidentified
2022.
tim pool
George Santos vs. Rob Zimmerman.
George Santos wins.
unidentified
2020.
tim pool
Tom Suozzi vs. George Santos.
Suozzi wins.
2018, Suozzi wins.
2016, Suozzi wins.
2014, it was Steve Israel, the Democrat, versus Grant Lally.
The Democrat had won.
The Democrat had won in 2012.
The Democrat, I believe, in 2010.
The Democrat in 2008, 2006, was Peter King.
And that was the last time, aside from Santos.
Here's the important thing to understand.
The reason why George Santos won, it's really, really simple.
The reason why he lost.
But I'll start with, the only reason Santos won is because the incumbent did not.
The incumbent didn't run.
Suozi was the guy in the district for three terms, and when he decided not to run for whatever reason, Rob Zimmerman versus Santos created an opening for which Santos was able to win.
Once Santos is out, they put the long-standing incumbent back on the ticket.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Of course he's gonna win!
So for all these people who are saying like, haha, Republicans are going to lose, it's a big sign.
No, it isn't.
The incumbent came back.
This guy who was popular in the district came back and said, I'll do the job again.
And people were like, okay, we'll take it.
It's not a Democrat Republican thing.
That being said, Republicans are spineless jellyfish losers who shouldn't have voted to oust Santos in the first place.
So they reap what they sow.
unidentified
I mean, the Republican running in the position of Santos hated Trump, was registered as a Democrat, still at this day was registered as a Democrat.
And you cannot hate Trump.
Like, he's the leader of the Republican Party.
How do you want Republicans to vote for someone that hates the leader of the Republican Party?
Of course they're not going to vote for him.
tim pool
This is the weirdest thing to me, right?
So, Mazi Pilip, who was running as the Republican, She represents Nassau County's Long Island 10th District as a Republican.
However, her current party is listed as Democratic.
unidentified
That's crazy.
tim pool
I don't understand.
I'm looking at this like, that's gotta be a typo, right?
So she's a Democrat?
unidentified
And she's still a Democrat?
She's a pro-life either.
tim pool
She's pro-choice.
She's pro-choice.
Right, so you run someone who is pro-choice, wants gun control.
unidentified
Hates Trump.
tim pool
Right, I don't know exactly what her quotes outside of this are on Trump or what she said, but she basically, in her wiki article it mentions, as it relates to Donald Trump's indictments, she said Trump has to go through this process, no one's above the law.
We have great candidates right now, Trump is one of them, we'll see.
Right.
She's also like, I'm pro-life, but I don't think I should impose my views on others.
I'm like, that's called pro-choice.
That is called other people can choose whether or not they get an abortion.
unidentified
It was a Democrat against a Democrat, basically.
Right.
tim pool
And so exactly.
And so it's Democrat versus Democrat.
Why?
Why would anyone choose Democrat-Lite if they want to vote Democrat?
unidentified
Exactly.
tim pool
They're going to vote for the longstanding incumbent they know.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
That's it.
phil labonte
I mean, the thing is, like, it shouldn't really be a surprise that the Republicans didn't win, considering, like, George Santos kind of made that district show its butt when they voted for him.
He's a clown, you know?
unidentified
But his voting record is amazing.
He votes good.
He might be a clown, but he votes good.
tim pool
But I have a question.
Is he a clown?
unidentified
Well, he definitely claimed that.
Why?
What did he do?
I don't know.
He lied a lot about his past.
What did he lie about?
I don't know about where he studied.
tim pool
Anybody?
unidentified
Oh, he said that his mom died in 9-11.
I love Santos.
I like him so much, I have to say.
phil labonte
He also said it.
unidentified
But he said a little bit of lies.
But he votes good, and that's what I care.
The only thing I care about is how the people vote, because that's what's affecting me.
And he's amazing voting, so why should they take him off?
And he said that he was going to just step out at the next race.
Let him finish the, you know, the years that he's supposed to be there.
tim pool
So the list of lies New York Mag has, and these are leftists.
phil labonte
They're hilarious.
tim pool
No, but it says he's alleged to have done this, he's alleged to have done this, he's alleged to have done this.
phil labonte
Yeah, there's no evidence that he did anything.
There was no trial or hearings or anything.
serge du preez
I never knew that until recently.
I didn't realize that was the case.
There was no substantial evidence at all, which is crazy.
phil labonte
There was literally no due process.
unidentified
Why should we care about his private life?
I don't care about his private life.
tim pool
He lied about where he went to high school.
phil labonte
He said he was Jew-ish.
unidentified
That's so funny.
Like he's a funny guy.
I love about him.
phil labonte
It's like to me that that falls right in line with like Trump's kind of stuff, which I know this is, this makes the left hate him even more.
But that reminds me of the kind of BS that Trump would try to lay down, which I think is hilarious.
unidentified
But he's getting the job done and he makes me laugh.
phil labonte
Yeah.
ian crossland
I just think it's not Congress's job to make people laugh where, you know, that's the go to Hollywood to do that.
Or you start a YouTube channel, but like, Jokesters, like, we don't need to fuck around right now.
We need serious people doing real work.
phil labonte
But he was voting.
His voting record was a serious voting record.
ian crossland
I would love to have him on the show.
What's that?
unidentified
I'm sure if you invite him, he would come.
Yeah.
ian crossland
I thought, OK, he's a goofball.
I have no interest.
And then I saw him talk on a video.
I was like, actually, he seems very intelligent.
tim pool
What if John Stewart ends up endorsing Trump?
ian crossland
I wouldn't be shocked.
phil labonte
I would laugh a lot for a while.
tim pool
I mean, there was a lot of leaps in my brain from this conversation that ended up with this point.
But it was basically like, starting with, what did Santos lie about?
We pull these lies up.
Why should I care about he lied about where he went to high school?
What do we want in Congress?
You've got Democrats who refuse to oust Menendez when he's caught with wads of cash stuffed in, you know, and he's been indicted now, like, what, twice.
Democrats will not go after their own.
In fact, AOC recently came out and said that she's going to be voting for Joe Biden because he's one of the greatest presidents or most accomplished.
And it's just patently insane.
Which brought me to, Jon Stewart even is calling out Joe Biden.
If AOC is like, Biden is the best, period, and Jon Stewart is like, this guy's got problems, how long until they start attacking Jon Stewart, which they've already done?
There are people attacking him saying, we're facing an existential crisis of democracy, and this is what Jon Stewart finds funny?
How long until the attacks on Jon Stewart turn into him saying, you know, I think Trump's crazy, but you're gonna vote for him?
You have to do it.
You have to.
I mean, look at Michael Rapaport.
ian crossland
I think if they really try and ramrod Joe Biden into the nomination that he might vote for Trump.
Because, I mean, what choice do you have at that point?
I don't love either of those guys.
I don't know either of them, but Biden's so slow.
tim pool
The Daily Show segment was good.
He was like, these guys who are currently running have set the record for the oldest candidates in the history of this country, beating out the previous record that they set four years ago!
ian crossland
Bill Clinton, president 30 years ago, is younger than Joe Biden.
tim pool
Wait, what, for real?
ian crossland
Yeah.
Zuby was talking about this earlier on the Adam Sosnick podcast.
tim pool
It's Bill Clinton, 77!
ian crossland
Wow!
tim pool
You know why that's crazy?
Because he looks decrepit, and Trump, who is also 77, actually looks kind of spry.
Trump has a healthy figure, if I can say that, you know what I mean?
He is a plump man, and Bill Clinton looks like decrepit.
phil labonte
Bill's nose does look like he drinks, but I don't know that.
tim pool
Hillary Clinton is 76.
Joe Biden's 81.
unidentified
Dude, he's older than the president 30 years ago.
I mean, it's just the math is out of... I'm blowing.
In Spain, you don't see that.
We are socialists and we are really bad, but we don't see elderly men running the country.
tim pool
Well, Nancy Pelosi, who's like 83, she was like, I'm completely capable of fighting this country.
ian crossland
I think there's like, um, this bias where, you know, if you know someone really well and you see them every day, you don't really notice them aging.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
A lot of people that have known Joe for 30 years don't really see it.
Like people that are like seeing him for the first time, like what in God's name is this?
tim pool
Dude, dude, dude, look, guys, you want to know the easiest way to understand the existential crisis we face.
...is to simply watch... Let me see if I can find the, uh... ...True Inanna Shabba... Depression.
...Biden video.
unidentified
Oh!
See, I speak better English.
That's amazing.
tim pool
Because, uh... I want to pull up this clip, because, you know... How do I find this True Inanna Shabba Depression thing?
unidentified
He cannot walk, he cannot speak, he doesn't know where he is.
How are we supposed to believe that he's the president and running the things?
ian crossland
I just read that they're not going to do a cognitive test, he's going to take a physical, but he's not going to do that.
unidentified
I saw that, of course, because he would fail in a way.
What's your name?
I don't know.
He doesn't know who he is, where he is, what time, what year it is, and he's speaking about dead people a lot.
Which that means that he may be closer to dying.
ian crossland
Oh, as if they're still living?
tim pool
Is this the clip right here?
unidentified
I'll need an effective strategy to mobilize true international suffragette pressure!
ian crossland
You gotta get the crowd cheering.
tim pool
That's the point I'm trying to bring up.
And Trump posted this three years ago on YouTube.
The point I want to bring up, and I don't know how to find the full video, is the crowd goes wild that he said it.
And so every single time Joe Biden says something that's incomprehensible, the crowd cheers for it.
Yeah.
Our country is facing dire straits, my friends.
When a guy can go on stage and go, you get the billabong!
And everyone's like, yeah!
You're like, ah, okay.
So, a funny thing I was reading about, right?
They did this study where they brought a person into a room and they were like, okay, we're going to be doing a study on people.
Thank you for participating.
You'll get paid X amount of dollars.
Here are the other people participating in the study.
It's really simple.
All you have to do is we're going to show you three lengths of yarn and you simply write down, you will then vote on which is the longest piece of yarn.
And so at first, what's actually happening is nine of the people are part of the study, and one person is being studied.
The one person being studied thinks everyone else is actually just another volunteer like they are, or getting paid for a study.
The first few times, they'll say, okay, here's three lengths of yarn, which one is the longest?
Everyone points to the longest, and they say, do you believe that one is the longest?
They'll raise their hands, like, okay.
After a few times, the shills start choosing the obvious wrong one.
And the person who's being studied just agrees with them.
Overwhelmingly just falls in line and says whatever they said is right.
That's terrifying.
ian crossland
I've been throughout my life the kind of guy who's like, no, you people are idiots.
This is the longest one.
Please.
I'm surrounded by idiots and it has caused social, like I have issues with in social settings sometimes because people be like, why are you so different?
Why won't you just fit in?
Why won't you just say what we want you to say?
But.
tim pool
Let's try this clip.
unidentified
Effective strategy to mobilize true international pressure.
joe biden
True international pressure.
unidentified
True international pressure.
ian crossland
True international something under pressure is what I'm getting at.
tim pool
Conspiracy theory.
The memes about this?
Are intentionally made to protect Joe Biden.
I'm half kidding, but these memes have erased the actual damning video that's hard to find for us where the crowd cheers in celebration for him saying something nonsensical.
You show your liberal parents, what did Joe Biden just say?
And they're like, I don't know.
Why is everyone cheering for it?
And that's like, That's a good question.
Why is there a crowd cheering for it?
It's hard to find the video.
That's the video that needs to be viral, not a meme from Bruce Almighty or whatever.
Donald Trump's video even cut off the part where the audience cheers for it.
Why?
Let's hear the audience celebrate it.
I'm sure I can find it after a little while, but it's like, it's rather frustrating that it's just silly jokes instead of the actual clip, which is terrifying.
ian crossland
What do you call that?
Mass formation?
They're cheering for the tone of who they perceive to be their leader?
unidentified
Probably.
ian crossland
He says he goes up, and then, gah!
And that's the cue for the audience to go, ah!
unidentified
He can go say nothing, and just everyone cheer at him.
That's how bad the brainwashing is.
Yeah.
serge du preez
It's like a cadence of the speech too, I know what you're saying.
Yeah, they're just, they're conditioned to react that way, and whether they even know what they're doing, it's like, because of the way he pauses, and because of the way he said this thing, and he has this gusto at the end of the sentence, everyone thinks, oh cool, time to clap, but...
Yeah and didn't say anything.
phil labonte
I do think that the people that are you know that go to those things they kind of you know read the the flow of what he's saying and kind of know where this place is you're supposed to and there are enough people that are just like okay this is the spot we'll go ahead and do it where the rest of the people kind of respond as well.
serge du preez
Classic Pavlov conditioning.
phil labonte
Yeah you know and I mean I'm not I'm not sure that there's, you know, that there's a huge amount of people that are doing that.
There's not a lot of people that is, that is, uh... They all cut it off.
...stuff, you know?
tim pool
It's crazy.
Every clip I've found so far, they cut off the audience celebrating Trinidad Shabba Da Pressure.
ian crossland
Did you hear the one guy go, yeah!
Right after he said it?
And that, like, tees off the audience to start cheering?
I wonder if he was a plant, or if he was just so into Biden, he's like, God, yes, everything you say, Lead an effective strategy to mobilize Truna Shabba Da Pressure.
unidentified
He's like, yeah!
Yeah!
ian crossland
Play that again.
It's ridiculous.
tim pool
Well, I'm trying to find the full clip where the crowd cheers and screams for it.
ian crossland
I gotta hear it.
I remember talking about this.
tim pool
But they're all gone!
ian crossland
That's disturbing, too.
tim pool
That's super annoying.
Truna Limanana Mpresure.
ian crossland
It is.
It's the reaction to insanity that I fear often.
The same with COVID.
The way that the people reacted to the COVID was way worse, it turned out, I think.
Objectively, maybe.
Damaging the economy, people's social lives, children's ability to school.
Then the COVID ended up being, we didn't know if it was going to be super dangerous, but like a 99.6% recovery rate.
99.6% recovery rate.
So people's reactions are like, I mean, we're animals.
We got to remember that.
Humans are, like, basically recently domesticated animals.
Only 10,000 years ago, you know, we were just wild.
serge du preez
Domesticated?
Who domesticated us, though?
ian crossland
Cats.
That's a theory.
serge du preez
That's a cool take.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Yeah, I don't think cats domesticated humans.
ian crossland
It's just a funny joke that people say sometimes.
phil labonte
I thought you actually did think it was cats.
ian crossland
There might be some legitimacy to it.
phil labonte
Honestly, I would be a little more inclined towards dogs, to be flat out honest with you.
ian crossland
They're wild though.
phil labonte
Dogs?
No, they're actually domesticated.
unidentified
We're gonna find this clip.
It's worth it.
I came right back to that.
ian crossland
You're right.
unidentified
That was good.
ian crossland
Your face is good too.
We're going to find this clip.
serge du preez
It's worth it.
tim pool
It's impossible.
ian crossland
Outlander effect is granted to the.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
They're all cutting off the audience celebrating.
tim pool
They're all cutting off the audience celebrating.
unidentified
Like the mass formation psychosis.
tim pool
Like, dude, I searched Twitter, YouTube, the true limit pressure.
When this first came out, one of the biggest talking points about it was, why is the audience cheering?
And I think that's the most damning thing to show people.
And now it's extremely difficult to find any video of, like, I suppose if you go to C-SPAN, we got to find the original video and reclip it.
So, that's what we'll have to do.
ian crossland
You hear that, Kellan?
unidentified
Just kidding, Kellan.
tim pool
For anybody listening who knows where the original source material is, just pull the full clip where you can hear the audience cheer for him.
ian crossland
Yeah, tweet it out at me.
phil labonte
But I mean, it is pretty crazy.
You know, it's like he obviously says nothing.
It's clearly gibberish.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
And people are just like, yeah.
I mean, you know, the fact that we were just had Jon Stewart and I've mentioned this before, my opinion of how badly he's harmed America.
And it's ironic because he was accusing Tucker Carlson of hurting America when he when he went on crossfire.
But the whole mocking everything conservatives did for, you know, 15 years or whatever has made it toxic to look at a conservative and take them seriously and take their ideas seriously.
ian crossland
I thought Colbert was doing similar.
joe biden
Gotta say hi to me.
unidentified
She's so creepy.
joe biden
We go back a long way.
She was 12, I was 30.
unidentified
What the... This woman helped me get an awful lot done.
joe biden
I'm sick and tired of smart guys!
unidentified
I'm sick and tired of ordinary people being fleeced!
tim pool
I can't, I can't do the... like the music kills it for me.
ian crossland
He was so clear-headed back then.
Dude, let's talk about Tara Reade for about five seconds.
unidentified
The girl who had to flee to Russia that claimed he abused her, pushed her up against the wall and... Delaware had the highest cancer rate in the nation.
joe biden
America is a nation that can be defined in a single word.
unidentified
I was going to put him... Music, music, music!
tim pool
It ruins all of it.
You know what we need to do?
We need to make like an archive of like, guys, it's just a video, you can hear what he says.
We're not going to cut the context, we're not going to remove the cheering, we're not going to add stupid music to it.
That's the most frustrating thing.
Someone has... Someone what?
phil labonte
Someone tweeted at me.
I'm not sure if they actually have the whole one.
No, this looks like it's short.
It's only 26 seconds.
tim pool
That might be it.
Yeah, because the video... Nah, music, music.
They're all edited, removing the actual context of what happened.
phil labonte
Thanks for trying, Johnny.
tim pool
But I mean, is the cheering in it, maybe, even with the music?
Maybe that's the issue.
Basically, if you watch any of the raw clips... Someone tweeted at me.
That's the wrong tab.
If you listen to any one of Biden's rallies where he says nonsense, they cheer for it.
And I'm like, that's where we're at.
How we navigate this.
I mean, I got a, I got a, I got a harsh reality for y'all.
It could just be that we're all trapped in a, in a simulation surrounded by NPCs.
And there's only like 10,000 actual sentient human beings.
The rest are just like the, like they're me's just going like, you know.
unidentified
I don't understand how a human being could cheer for him.
So that makes sense.
tim pool
It's like, at least Trump, when you laugh at Trump, he said something.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Often, yeah.
It's the content of his speech that you're laughing at.
Even with Hitler, they were cheering for the things he... Well, no, they were also cheering for the way he was saying it.
They liked that fire.
They were like, we're so desperate, we'll take this angry passion.
phil labonte
Yeah, I feel like... I mean, granted, like, the US is in, you know, kind of a down spot, but I certainly don't think that we're...
Weimar Germany.
ian crossland
No, not today.
But the inflation's concerning and the crowds are cheering for nonsense is also concerning because what other nonsense will they cheer for?
phil labonte
Someone just linked me with a two hour raw video.
Wow.
I just reposted it.
It's on top of my Twitter feed if you want.
tim pool
The two-hour clip?
phil labonte
Well, I mean, where is the... I mean, for later, if you want to send it to the calendar, I'm just saying.
ian crossland
Put a comment on that tweet with the timestamp, whoever just gave that to Phil, and we'll play it on the show.
phil labonte
Thank you, Pachito.
ian crossland
Tune in on the show to pressure!
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
We'll have to, uh... Tune in on the show!
phil labonte
Oh my God.
tim pool
Here we go.
Ladies and gentlemen, you ready for this one?
This is a story from, like, a couple days ago, but oh boy.
From the post-millennial California Democrat Senate candidate wants to raise minimum wage to $50 per hour.
These are special people.
They're special.
Their brains don't work, so we have to be nice.
But if your society allows people who are cognitively deficient to hold office, your country will fail.
You know, I'll keep it simple for you.
If a guy comes to my house to fix my toilet and he doesn't know anything about fixing toilets, he will likely make the problem worse.
It is no different if it is a plumber or a politician.
A woman who does not understand how business works will get into office and just make the problem worse.
I invite you to test this theory out and hire an electrician to build you an airplane.
Now hold on!
Electricians are smart guys, okay?
They can probably do a lot of electrical stuff, but I don't know that they're going to completely understand how a plane flies.
They could probably, based off sight and understanding with what they've done, you know, build some kind of rudimentary flying device, it
just will not be at the same to the same standards as like a Cessna or a Cirrus or, you know, a
Learjet. You know what I mean?
So I'm not saying she is mentally deficient to an extreme degree.
unidentified
Which probably she is.
tim pool
Perhaps.
I'm saying, this woman clearly has no idea what she's talking about, and will not be able to pilot this ship effectively.
phil labonte
Let's be respectful.
The CPI numbers, the inflation numbers just came out today, or yesterday, and they're still 3 and change percent, so they're still at least 50% higher than what the government's target is, because the target's 2%.
And these are year-over-year, so it's 3% higher from last year, but last year was ridiculously high.
tim pool
I'mma educate ya, lady.
Okay?
Democrat Barbara Lee.
She says, Uh, she noted a recent report that stated in the Bay Area, $127,000 for a family of four is just barely enough to get by.
Another survey said $104,000 for a family of one barely enough to get by, low income, because of the affordability crisis.
Just do the math.
Of course we have national minimum wages that we need to raise to a living wage.
We're talking about $20, $25, fine, but I've got to be focused on what California needs and what the affordability factor is when we calculate this wage.
Let's start.
Okay, so the problem is you can't afford to live in San Francisco and buy food.
So we decide to raise the minimum wage to $50 an hour.
Now, a guy who works at a grocery store is making $50 an hour.
Okay, well in order to stock and sell the groceries, the employees who work at the grocery store, getting paid $50 an hour, we're gonna have to sell the goods at that store substantially more to cover the cost of the employees who are working there.
Let's break it all the way down to a coffee stand.
A little box.
All they do is sell a cup of coffee.
Costs about 50 cents to make a cup of coffee.
Then you gotta pay for the cup.
Then you gotta pay for the lid.
Then you gotta pay the employee.
The employee's getting $50 per hour.
Okay.
How many cups of coffee are you going to have to sell every hour in order to cover the cost of this employee?
If you sell one cup of coffee per hour at your coffee stand, that cup of coffee will cost $52.
Because it has to pay, by law, $50 an hour.
But let's say your coffee stand sells 10 cups per hour.
Okay, okay, fine.
That I suppose.
So each cup of coffee probably costs about six, seven bucks at this point for literally just to say, ah, but there's electricity, there's regulation.
I'd think at 50 bucks an hour, your cup of coffee, if you're selling 10 an hour, you'd have to sell it for about eight or nine dollars for a small cup of coffee.
Now we're not talking about cream.
Cream and sugar were not included in that equation.
Cream spoils.
I think we'd be looking at maybe like $12 to $13 for a cup of coffee.
And if at any point you sold less than $10 an hour, you go to business.
Let's do the basic math now, expanding, moving forward.
This individual wants to rent an apartment.
You need $127,000 a year.
You got an apartment that costs $2,000.
So we say, okay, $50 an hour.
Now you can afford that apartment, right?
You work at a coffee stand.
Bang!
You're making a lot of money.
Uh, okay, well now we gotta get an electrician to fix the lights.
Now we gotta get a plumber to fix the toilet.
We gotta pay city taxes.
Well, the unfortunate thing is that anybody who does any work for this building is gonna have to at least get 50 bucks an hour.
So, in order to cover those costs, the landlord, the owner of the building, is gonna have to raise the price of rent for everybody.
You see, it's just a special degree of stupid.
ian crossland
Also, just so you know, I can't afford to pay for that coffee anymore, so I'm gonna stop shopping there.
They might not actually be able to sell coffee anymore now that they raised the prices so high, and they might have to close down.
And then the employee's gonna lose his job.
Where else is he gonna work?
Do it again to the next company?
tim pool
So here's the best thing.
I learned this when I was talking to an accountant when New Jersey raised the minimum wage by like a dollar.
They were doing it in increments or whatever, and he said 30% of my clients have shut down over this.
Because there is no such thing as a gradual increase.
There is only an immediate increase by the increment they've declared at the time.
So, what they'll say is, we're gonna go from 10 bucks to 12 bucks an hour, but we'll do it slowly over time.
Not true.
What ends up happening is, they say, in six months it'll go up 50 cents.
In six months, another 50 cents.
Until we reach 12.
That means for every small business, they have to add 50 cents per hour as soon as that deadline hits, which instantly increases their costs.
For a lot of these businesses, the overwhelming majority of businesses in this country, it is just some family or some guy who's making $30,000, $40,000 a year as the owner of his hot dog stand, his pizza shop, or whatever it is.
You increase his labor costs by 10% overnight, or I think this would be like 7% or 8%, all you're doing is saying he should make less or shut down.
That's the goal of globalists.
in New Jersey, tons of small businesses just closed overnight.
I think they had some purpose.
They want Walmart, Amazon, everything to take over.
unidentified
That's the goal of globalists.
That's so sad, honestly.
tim pool
Yeah, it'll be like idiocracy, just one big Costco.
phil labonte
Everybody's wearing Crocs.
tim pool
Was that what they were doing in Idiocracy?
phil labonte
Yeah, there's a story that goes along with that.
When they were actually filming, they needed to get everybody in shoes.
And the set designer or the designer said, OK, we've got these.
And they were like, what are you doing with these?
They're like, no one's ever going to wear them.
They look ridiculous.
And now everyone's wearing them.
serge du preez
Yeah, it's crazy how they took off.
I noticed an image that you took me a little while ago.
phil labonte
Oh yes.
serge du preez
Yeah, you're an indoor Crocs fan as well.
phil labonte
I do have a pair of Crocs for home use.
But home use only.
serge du preez
Likewise, yes, same here.
tim pool
Yo, this is wild.
50 bucks an hour for a salary job.
She's basically saying all employees, no matter what they do, have to get $104,000 per year.
phil labonte
And then that just means that the $104,000 is no longer going to have the buying power that $104,000 has now.
These are such simple, basic economic principles.
It's as one-on-one as it gets.
There's arguments to be made about UBI and there are people that want to make that argument and stuff and that's one thing, right?
You want to get rid of other programs so that way you can have a UBI so everybody has some kind of basic income.
It's fine, but that's still going to affect the inflation rate.
It's still going to be inflationary.
Anytime you print money into the system without taking money out, it's inflationary.
So if they don't cut You're not going to fix any of the problems and any of these things that they're doing that are inflationary, they only make our problem worse.
worse. $33,000 billion. $33,000 billion.
unidentified
$33,000,000,000,000!
phil labonte
$33,000,000,000,000!
tim pool
So there is a there is a diminishing return on in some areas of businesses.
There is an exponential return depending on the business you're working in.
For this business, for instance, there's a diminishing return on revenue.
The more that we produce for TimCast.com, the less we actually make.
So, it's really funny, sometimes I'll get messages from people, and they'll be like, I was watching, you know, a members-only show, and I saw this, and I'm upset, so I'm canceling my membership.
And I'm like, man, it's actually wild, because we have the same amount of members now, as we did before we made that thing.
And so it's like, if we did not give you the extra thing, you would not have cancelled your membership.
Right?
So at a certain point, there's an upper limit to the reach we have and the amount of conversions we can actually get.
One thing I think we would benefit from that I just don't really want to do is what every other company does, and it's membership retention.
So there's a lot of people who stop being members because their card expires and they would love to be members, but they just forgot about it.
And that's why companies will hire someone to get on the phone or send an email and be like, hey, is there a reason you dropped off?
But in terms of this communist, psychotic garbage, I will just put it simple.
If I was told, you work eight hours a day, you will get paid 50 bucks an hour, you work any more than that, you get nothing, I'd say, okay, well then I stop working.
And that's the problem with communism.
Because instantly anybody who wants to do the extra mile, which is how societies improve, ceases doing so because it's just stressful for no reason.
That's communism.
unidentified
That's what's happening in Spain.
People don't work, people are lazy, because they just get paid by the government.
tim pool
To be fair, you've had siesta for a long time.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
You've had siesta in Spain for a long time.
unidentified
We still have siesta.
tim pool
I know, and you've had it well before the socialists came.
unidentified
You have siesta at Burning Man too.
I was actually working back then.
My grandpa was such a hard-working person, but he was actually getting paid for the extra hours.
Now my dad works the same as my grandpa, same job, same company.
He doesn't get paid for the extra hours.
tim pool
The idea from what the left will say is, people should do things because they want to do it.
And it's like, sure!
I mean, if I was told that all the extra work I was doing would do nothing towards my ability to have access, freedom, and towards my mission or whatever, I'd probably just hang out, you know, I don't know, play some guitar on the porch, go skating a lot more.
unidentified
And drink some beer.
That's what Spanish people does.
tim pool
Yeah, just, okay, if, like, what do I want to do?
Okay, well, I like having two shows, but if one of them is just dead weight, I suppose we can just stick to one of them and not do both, and then spend the rest of the day, like, I don't know, going to hang out with my friends?
ian crossland
That's where I'm at, too.
It's not a good place to be, because I want to make more stuff and get compensated.
There's got to be a way to, like, If monthly buying a TimCast membership is like $8 a month, and then you paid $0.99 a month for each show you want access to on the TimCast network, or you can pay $5 a month for direct access to the show without the $8 a month subscription.
tim pool
Like creative ways to like, and then you could take all those $0.99 a month for that show, you could split that off onto the people running that show, One of the hardest things is that, like, inflation hits, like, at a certain point, we have to increase costs of TeamCast membership.
And I'm just like...
I guess.
You know, what do we do?
We like, we increase the lowest tier to 11 bucks for all new members is like the only way we could do it.
It's probably what we have to do.
And it's because, you know, people need to understand when the cost of eggs doubles, the people who work here need to eat eggs.
And so that means we have to then pay people more money.
That's just normally, that's just how it goes.
And so, then we're going to get people complaining, and it's like, it's difficult.
But that's business stuff, that's fine.
I'm just saying the communist stuff where it's like, if you do extra work you get nothing, it's like, then I won't do it.
unidentified
What should you?
What's motivating you?
ian crossland
I hate that state of mind.
Oh, sorry to interrupt.
Because you should want to do more!
There was a time before money, it was just about acquiring resources.
phil labonte
Yeah, but that wasn't, that was about, that was about saving your life.
That was about not dying.
The time before money, like before the division of labor and before money, when everybody was responsible for their own hunting gathering and, and, and, you know, maybe the small farms or whatever, it was not easy.
It was hard, hard, hard living.
And people died in mass.
tim pool
The funny thing about these communists, too, is that their ideas... I did this long segment a couple weeks ago about that Richard Wolff guy.
And also as a correction, too, about the Christian Nationalists, it's not Richard Wolff.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's William Wolff.
tim pool
Is it Stephen or something?
phil labonte
There's a couple of them.
tim pool
But this communist guy was like... There's wolves out there.
If you're getting paid $20 an hour, it's because you're creating more value.
Because in order to pay you $20 an hour, your boss has to at least make that, right?
The only problem with these communists who are morons is that the people who come here to clean don't actually sell or create any product I can sell.
I just have to pay them what they demand if I want things to be clean and the garbage to be taken out.
To which the response from the communists was, you can't do a show with a dirty studio.
I beg to differ!
I'm staring at Ian's desk right here, and we're doing the show just fine.
ian crossland
You should see the dust on this thing.
tim pool
My point is, I don't have to pay cleaners to do it.
I want to pay cleaners to do it.
But by the communist argument, I should fire them.
They produce no value for the system at all or for themselves.
In fact, by the communist argument, they are stealing from me.
ian crossland
By taking your waste away?
tim pool
Communists say that the workers are entitled to the profits of the things they create.
I say, agreed.
Then you're also entitled to the debts as well.
That means if you're a cleaner who comes to my studio and I have to pay you X, that is debt you owe to me.
phil labonte
And like you're saying, what exactly, you know, how do you, how do you, how do you value the cleanliness of your room?
You know, how do you figure out what the, how does that add to surplus value of the establishment here?
I don't, you can't.
tim pool
We could have garbage, for all anybody watching this knows, there could be garbage littered all across the floor.
We could be sitting in mounds of Taco Bell wrappers for all they know.
ian crossland
Shout out to Asmodan if you're out there.
tim pool
We keep things clean because we want them to be clean, but it's just laughably absurd.
The reality is low-skill, low-intelligence people demand you give them free stuff.
phil labonte
That's it.
The idea that communism and socialism are the ideology of the The envious and the vengeful and the angry.
It's absolutely the ideology of the jealous.
ian crossland
I gotta say, shout out Asmodan, who's a demon from Diablo.
I'm talking about Asmongold.
He's a streamer.
He's with your Taco Bell.
You know who I'm talking about.
Asmongold.
What's up, brother?
I think that you should maybe be incentivized to get a portion of the profits of a company you're working for if you're creating, but not entitled.
That's up to the owner of the company.
tim pool
Disagree.
You want to make that deal?
Then the debt's as well.
Timcast Events, for instance, separate entity, is in the red, right?
And so one of the things we're going to be doing is shifting our events from traveling around the country, because it's impossible, to the Martinsburg, Casper location, members only, private.
And no longer, I don't think, I think we might have, yeah, I don't think we're ever going to do a theater ever again.
I don't think we're ever going to do a thousand seats.
We sold.
We sold out.
Yeah, and then we lost 30 grand.
Miami, we just about broke even.
That was good.
But then the salary work and the contract stuff in between those events drains the accounts.
We can't make enough money to do it.
phil labonte
We avoid doing fly-in shows because of that, because to go and do one show fly-out, we can do them, but we have to get paid a big paycheck for us to fly out there.
tim pool
So then what happens is my team comes to me and says, we need to charge $200 per ticket for this event.
And I'm like, we can't charge that much.
There's no way.
We're doing $100 per ticket, so I'll let everybody who's watching know.
The Martinsburg event on March 5th, tickets were 100 bucks a piece for members only, so you all had to be a member, and that comes out to, who wants to do the math?
50 times 100.
I think I know.
Okay, our security costs are substantially higher than that.
The ticket sales will do nothing to make this event possible.
If we wanted to sell tickets to cover the cost of the event, tickets would have to be like 250 bucks each.
We could only reasonably fit about 50 people in the studio room with folding chairs.
And we have to have a certain number of security for insurance purposes.
Security can only work under certain conditions.
And so we have to have insurance.
We literally legally have to because of financing.
So the banks require insurance.
Insurance requires security.
All those costs, flat costs can't do anything about.
50 tickets?
I think if we sold tickets for like 250, we would be able to break even, maybe?
So yeah.
That's the harsh reality of this.
And then what happens is...
Understanding business's degree, it's like, why should we do the event?
Well, we tried several times, hoping that we could get to a point where we're making more than we're spending.
The problem?
You'll eventually run into somebody, in some capacity, who says, I see how much money you made, I deserve more.
And then we have to, I have to say something like, okay, yeah, that, like, we sold, uh, yeah, we sold 50 tickets for a hundred bucks each, that's five grand for one day.
You get five grand for one day, and I'm only getting paid X?
I deserve this!
And then it's like, okay, shut it down.
That's it.
The funny thing, uh, I think people need to understand about business ventures, is like, these communists seem to think, at an established business, it's as simple as, I sold 10 cheeseburgers today for $100, or, you know, 10 cheeseburger meals and got $100, and they only paid me $40.
They're ripping me off.
And it's just like, man, I hate communists, dude.
I can't stand communists.
ian crossland
What I like about profit sharing is that it incentivizes the employee to work harder, to make more money for the company.
Not necessarily harder, but just better.
And that's a good thing for your employees to want the company to make more money, because otherwise the employees don't care.
tim pool
Debt sharing, got to have debt sharing too.
ian crossland
But it would be like, it should be a scalar thing.
Like I'm only, maybe I'll give you 0.1% of the profits, but I'm only going to take 0.01% of the losses from you.
tim pool
It's the craziest thing when it comes to trying to start a venture.
Someone comes to you and says, okay, I can do this job for you.
It costs, you know, X amount of dollars.
You say, okay.
Then they say, okay, I did the event for you, but I think I deserve more money.
And then my response is like, hey, I lost 50 grand doing that event, and I don't have any more money to give you.
And they're like, well, I think I deserve it anyway.
And I'm like, you want me to get my wallet and just hand you the cash out of my wallet?
Like, people don't seem to understand that.
So these communists who are saying things like I deserve 50 bucks an hour, what they're saying is I want the government by threat of violence to go to my boss, Point a gun at him and say, give them your money.
And they're like, cause I deserve it.
And the argument they make is, Jeff Bezos is too rich.
Sure.
Jeff Bezos has a lot of money.
But 90 plus percent of businesses are small businesses.
And when you implement things like this, you're not going after Bezos, who will hire a bunch of lawyers, hide his value and get away with it.
You're going after mom and pop shops and then making Walmart stronger.
ian crossland
Or hire a bunch of robots.
Amazon hire- Oh dude!
tim pool
Just fire a bunch of people and replace them with robots.
Our Taco Bell over here is all kiosks.
Like, there's a couple people behind the thing working, but you walk in and you order in a kiosk.
That's the future, man.
Because you're like, I don't gotta pay the kiosk, and the kiosk doesn't ask for a raise.
ian crossland
In Spain, is it like literally socialist, communist, socialist?
What is the system?
unidentified
It's socialist.
It's not communist, but it's an undercover communist, basically.
It's really, really bad.
Like, our president right now did just the biggest unconstitutional thing in history, and he's just walking free, happy.
tim pool
What did he do?
unidentified
You know about, that's a long thing, the independentism of Catalonia?
Are you familiar with that?
So basically, to remain in power, he needed an absolute majority.
So what he did is that he pardoned the person who said that Catalonia was independent, which was completely unconstitutional.
So the small party would just work with him and have the majority of Catalonia.
Because we have a lot of parties in Spain, right?
So they have to work together in order to have the majority and be the president.
So there was a small party that said, I won't work with you until you pardon every politician that said that Catalonia was independent.
So basically he did that.
tim pool
We're gonna go to Super Chats!
If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, head over to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member, excuse me, to support our work directly and help keep this operation afloat.
Because it's expensive.
And it really is.
I've said this a lot, but you know, since I started doing all of this, my pay So, uh, let me start.
When I first started this, the Tim Pool Daily Show, my original TimCast channel, and the TimCast News Channel, where I just monologue, was my source of income.
For the first couple of years, my salary was less than half of what those channels were generating, and the rest of that money was being put into expanding the company, hiring people, working on projects, making books, trying to influence culture.
And there was also some giving, like donating to... I've donated a couple times to disabled veterans and things like that, and other causes and individuals fighting the culture war.
Recently, I gave myself a raise, which puts me just about 80% of what my morning show is.
So my personal salary is about 85% of what is generated from the Tim Pool Daily Show.
All the money generated from TimCast.com as memberships, The Elite Club, all of that stuff, Casprew, There is profit, and it does roll over to me, but it's not part of what I pay myself, it is just reinvested back into the projects, the mission, and the company, and all of that stuff.
That is to say, of course I personally benefit, my net worth goes up.
What I'm saying is, when you become a member at TimCast.com, what we end up doing is like, putting on events in Martinsburg, which are a loss to us.
A loss we can support and handle, which basically means like, we just allocate funds from one area to another.
But ultimately, my point is, I'm not going to buy a $3 million mansion in Santa Monica or West Hollywood.
I'm not going to get a Porsche Taycan or anything like that.
Do be fair, I have a Tesla Model S. That was a joke, actually.
I was making a joke about a son.
But I don't want to buy an infinity pool.
I wanna like, uh, fund some journalism.
You know, we've got journalists over at SCNR, which, uh, SCNR and the journalism from the TimCast News Team does not make any money, it never did.
It's about doing things that I think are impactful and important, and it's made possible thanks to you.
And so, uh, just- just know that, you know, the money that goes into TimCast.com memberships, the point of all of it is We're gonna try and build stuff and do cool things.
We're gonna put faces on Times Square billboards or whatever, if you're into that, you know.
So, let's read your Super Chats.
Become a member.
The Members Only Uncensored show's coming up at 10, and we're gonna talk about what happened with that drag show with kids, where an individual was attacked by the congregation.
But let's read Super Chats for now.
Kilted Carnivore says, Joe Biden has been looking rough since he used Force Lightning on Corn Pop.
I think actually it wasn't Cornpop.
It was, um... It had to be more recent because... Marco Rubio?
I don't know about Rubio.
ian crossland
Just called out a random guy, I don't know.
tim pool
No, you gotta call out somebody who's like disappeared from the limelight.
ian crossland
George Santos?
tim pool
Someone who disappeared and is no longer in Congress and is retired or whatever.
You know, so Joe Biden has really declined over the past year or so.
Like, you know, in 2020, he's talking like this, you know, Donald Trump, blah, blah.
unidentified
Now he's talking like this.
phil labonte
Really?
unidentified
It's true.
It is.
tim pool
He's like... Very true.
Yo, he's hanging on by a thread.
Crazy, man.
Let's go!
What do we have here?
Mr. Bettelon says, Tim, apparently this is a three-week-old story, but they tested and successfully implanted a microchip to curb addiction.
Closer to read-write thoughts.
Let's go, baby.
Did you guys see Zuckerberg's anti-Apple part of it?
phil labonte
I didn't see the whole thing.
I saw the start of it.
Apparently, it looks like it gives the Apple a run for its money, or it's better.
It's an eighth of the cost.
Yeah, it's a lot less money.
tim pool
But again, fact, the Apple one has a higher resolution, and that's what matters.
phil labonte
Yeah, and also Apple doesn't innovate.
They take things that already exist and they make them really, really, really, really, they make them work really, really well.
The iPhone was not a brand new thing when it came out.
The iPhone was, you know, the smartphone had been out and touchscreens had been out.
The iPhone, when Apple released the iPhone, it was just that it worked better than anything.
tim pool
Well, it was simplified.
A single button, touch, no stylus.
I'm on Team Zuck though.
Not Team Cook.
I'm on Team Zuckerberg on this one.
Oculus is better.
Open systems are better.
I believe it's Android-based.
I could be wrong.
I'm pretty sure it is.
And Apple is proprietary and closed system.
One of the points that Zuckerberg made is that when it came to smartphones, the closed system won out.
And he said, I'm hoping that, like with computers, the open system succeeded.
What this means for those that don't know, on An open system, you can make an app, upload it, share it, however you want.
On a closed system, it's got to go through their proprietary system.
So Apple is closed.
If you want an app on Apple, it's got to go to them and they decide.
The benefits?
Well, malware is fewer and far between.
Still exists.
Malware basically is dependent upon market share, so people find a way.
But, uh, with an open system, you do have risks of bad apps.
You could download a program that's, like, not really what it says it's gonna do, and it puts spyware on your device or whatever.
You're gonna need to be a bit more vigilant.
But it means that if you want to make an app, you can make one and just put it on the system.
So I like, I like Open, I like Android better, I don't like Apple.
Uh, however, we did order our, uh, uh, Face Sucker VR Mind Melter, and it will be here, and we'll give it a shot.
ian crossland
That's the Apple Vision Pro?
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
Ooh, that's gonna be intense.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yep.
ian crossland
Market research.
phil labonte
They're available?
I thought they were still for sale.
tim pool
Yeah, just $4,000.
phil labonte
I thought there was a waiting list.
tim pool
We have a couple of Oculuses.
It's fun.
I was playing Skyrim on it.
ian crossland
Apparently you can make videos with those things too, like that'll record the way you look, and then you can be in a room with your friend and do a livestream.
tim pool
Yeah, but it makes a CGI avatar of you.
It's creepy.
unidentified
There's one glasses I think for $300, Ray-Ban, that has the camera here.
tim pool
Yeah, Ray-Ban.
unidentified
Everywhere, yeah.
tim pool
I think we have a pair of those.
Basically, like, when new tech comes out, we buy it and try it and see what's going on.
We should do a tech review show.
ian crossland
Bring it up here, put it on the table, one of those VRs just for reference.
tim pool
I've got, like, three pairs of Google Glass in a box somewhere.
ian crossland
Yeah, those would be cool to have, like, sitting out, so we can all, like, what is that?
tim pool
It was funny, it was, like, it was really hard to get the first one, but after the first one broke, they instantly just gave me a free second one.
And then when that one broke, they gave me another one.
They really liked what I was doing with it.
We got a big store that if you Google search Tim Pool, Google Glass, Istanbul,
you see like this goofy picture of me wearing them with a wire coming out.
ian crossland
Man, I remember talking about in 2007, the future is gonna be contacts with augmented reality
and then they built it.
They were listening at Google while I was talking about it.
I make internet YouTube videos and they'd listen and then they made it.
But they made these goofy-ass glasses where it was like, no, contact lenses.
You don't want people to know you have it on.
That's the point.
tim pool
They do have contacts, which I think can measure, like, blood sugar levels or something like that.
ian crossland
That's pretty cool.
tim pool
Yeah, it's a very simple, like, chip in the contacts or whatever, and based on your tears or something.
I don't know, I could be wrong.
ian crossland
Something like that.
tim pool
Alright, let's go!
unidentified
What do we got?
tim pool
Jacob Parody says, Narbar's candles on Public Square is being commandeered by my 17-year-old future niece.
I'm so proud of this young prodigy.
Cinnamon vanilla is one of the favorite.
I watched a video on how to make cinnamon.
Do you guys know where cinnamon comes from?
ian crossland
Trees.
tim pool
Where?
ian crossland
The bark of trees?
tim pool
The bark of trees.
It's the inner layer.
It's like the top layer with the bark shaved off.
ian crossland
What tree?
tim pool
Cinnamon tree.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
I watched a video and I was like, because we have whole cinnamon and it's just like rolls, and I'm like, what part of the plant is this?
And so I'm like, I've never looked, I've never cared, I don't know.
And then I watched a video where a guy's hacking at a tree, and then he peels the first layer of the tree off, he shaves off the bark, peels the first layer, and then he eats it.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
He like just bites it, he's like, mmm, tastes great.
I'm like, wow.
unidentified
Very beneficial for your health.
tim pool
Yeah.
We also have a ton of black walnut out here, and you can actually get syrup from black walnut trees.
ian crossland
Oh, those are good for parasite cleanses, black walnut.
Yeah.
tim pool
And they're everywhere, and they're huge.
And so we actually are looking into tapping black walnut, and they say that the black walnut syrup tastes like butterscotch.
unidentified
Mmm.
tim pool
Yeah, good fun.
Alright, Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Tim, Luke Milkers has a member area, is now taking callers, and even stole Moon Lord for a couple weeks.
Any comment for SCNR to his copying of you?
Well, you know.
Imitation is the finest form of flattery, is that what they say?
phil labonte
Did he say Luke Milkers?
tim pool
That's what he said.
ian crossland
Dot com.
Let's find out if that's still live.
tim pool
Is that what it is?
ian crossland
He has so many, I don't know.
But you definitely want to check out the best political show.
phil labonte
Milkers?
ian crossland
Yeah, LukeMilkers.com.
We'll take you to WeAreChange.org.
tim pool
Praise Thy Gibus says, Hi Tim, I love listening to IRL and The Daily Show while making deliveries the next day.
Thank you.
Well, no problem.
You know, it's a tough job complaining on the internet, but someone has to do it.
phil labonte
Happy Thursday to you.
tim pool
Yeah.
Happy Thursday.
phil labonte
You can do this tomorrow.
tim pool
Thursday's my favorite day because the news has all built up.
And there's just like an absurd amount of commentary.
Monday is always just like, oh boy, here we go.
But you had runoff from the weekends.
Wednesday is usually like that day where it's like...
You got big press releases yesterday, we already talked about it.
Now it's Wednesday, it's a little dry.
Thursday you've got, you know, things have picked up here and there.
And that's why I basically, the way I do the Friday morning show is I'll record Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and then put those all out on Friday.
And they're usually like cultural or whatever.
Because Friday is... Friday night could be the biggest news day of the week, or it could just be the most boring because nobody wants to work.
Let's grab some more.
What do we got?
CJ Hanson says, the only thing I would say about Russian space nukes is they have maps and DC is clearly marked.
I just, when they're like screaming Russian space nukes, I'm like, okay dude.
I do not fear Russia, you know.
It does, it does break my heart.
You guys see that Tucker Carlson video of the subway?
unidentified
Yeah, it's beautiful.
tim pool
Yeah, here's what I think.
If you choose the most beautiful subway in Moscow, and then compare it to your average subway in New York, come on, Moscow's gonna look better.
If you go to, like, One World Trade Plaza, or whatever I think the address is, and there's that, the Oculus, I think they call it, it is clean and beautiful, but I hate it.
It is brutalist and sterile.
And Moscow is beautiful paintings and chandeliers.
unidentified
Yeah, it's art.
You're walking through art.
tim pool
Yep.
unidentified
Wow, look at the Oculus now.
tim pool
Yeah, you're looking at it.
It's just like a big white sterile image.
unidentified
It's beautiful.
It's like a museum.
tim pool
The Oculus?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
No, the Oculus in New York is boring.
unidentified
In Moscow.
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, the coolest thing is when I was in Ukraine, the subways are super deep underground.
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, because they're afraid of nukes.
So when they were building it all, it's like, you go way down.
unidentified
Crazy.
Oh, wow.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
I'm bummed about what happened with Ukraine, because Kiev was awesome.
I was actually planning a trip to check out Chernobyl at some point.
Now, I'll never set foot in that country.
ian crossland
Did Kiev just get hit by a, not just, but get hit by a supersonic missile today?
tim pool
When?
ian crossland
I was reading reports that Kiev got hit by a missile.
Maybe.
How did that happen?
But it could have been fake.
unidentified
Fake news.
tim pool
Tina Barnard says, I got to see the Berlin Wall come down.
I was there August 1990.
I was 16 and a lot of the wall was still standing along with Checkpoint Charlie.
I have a couple large pieces I brought back.
unidentified
Wow!
tim pool
That's amazing.
I got to go and see the Statue of Lenin in Kiev that was toppled over.
It's kind of amazing because, like, when these protests were happening and they were trying to get rid of Yanukovych, they threw cables over the Statue of Lenin.
They ripped it down and started smashing it with a sledgehammer.
Someone took the head and tried selling it and they got in trouble.
phil labonte
I'd love to have him.
I'd love to own that.
tim pool
Someone had the hand.
You can probably find it by someone.
ian crossland
I think Kiev did not get hit by a missile.
I don't know why.
tim pool
Yeah, whatever happened to us buying that statue of Lenin and then giving it to, like, a shooting range?
phil labonte
I don't know!
tim pool
The statue of Lenin in Seattle?
phil labonte
In Seattle, yeah.
I don't know.
tim pool
I think we kind of just fell off on that one.
I think we have to do it.
unidentified
We have to do it.
Yeah.
serge du preez
Please do.
tim pool
That's hilarious.
Alright, I need someone at this company who's like, I can go to them and say, find out how we buy and transport that statue of Lenin.
And then we need to find someone maybe in Kentucky who's got a shooting range, and we would like to gift this to you.
You can use it for safe, safe, safe videos.
serge du preez
It's like the weirdest MrBeast episode ever.
tim pool
We spent $300,000 on the Statue of Lenin, and we're gonna shoot at it!
unidentified
So ridiculous, dude.
serge du preez
Yeah, let's do it.
phil labonte
Okay, so I guess it was in Fremont?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And it was for sale for like $300,000 or whatever, but then nobody bought it.
phil labonte
I'm trying to see if I can find Salem, Seattle.
tim pool
Because I kind of feel like if...
You know, I said something like, your TimCast membership contributes to things like, we are going to buy the Statue of Lennon to destroy and deface.
People would be like, I will sign up for that.
It's like, we can't provide you with much.
The $10 is not going to get you a free cup of coffee.
You can buy Casper coffee.
It won't get you a cheeseburger.
It won't fix your car.
But it will allow us to buy the Statue of Lennon for which we can deface and desecrate.
No, no, the idea we had was to lay it on its side and then let the roosters roost above it so they're crapping all over it.
That's a good idea.
unidentified
So funny.
tim pool
I kind of want to do that.
ian crossland
I think we have to do that.
unidentified
You have to.
ian crossland
Keeping it intact would be a good move if we can.
Because I think in like 10,000 years, people will be like, whoa.
tim pool
I think we have to do that.
The only problem is I think that if we tell the owners that's our intent, they might be like, $3 million.
You know what I mean?
Like this guy's gonna pay.
ian crossland
I saw like a World War II documentary and after they took Berlin, they were There's like a big thing of Hitler, like a picture of Hitler, and they were shooting at it, just blowing it apart.
And I got kind of sad because I was like, man, I would love to have that thing.
tim pool
I think, yeah, I don't like the desecration.
I don't like destruction of history, but I don't consider the Fremont statue to be particularly historically relevant.
phil labonte
Not in the United States, no.
tim pool
No, no.
Like, you know, so there's a, in the Moral Foundations Test, Jonathan Haidt's research, one of the questions they ask you is, oh, like a woman is cleaning up and she finds an old American flag to use as a rag to clean the floors.
Are you, like, how do you feel about this?
And you can choose like, it's not okay, it's not that, it's like really not okay, it's not okay, it's fine, it's okay, it's totally fine, who cares?
And like, If I saw someone take...
And like a real American flag from like something historical, and they tried to use it as a rag, I very well may use physical force against this individual to prevent that from happening.
unidentified
I was gonna say that.
It just burns inside me just to imagine the fact that someone is using the flag to clean.
tim pool
It's a disrespect.
If somebody owns their own flag they bought from a store and they want to burn it, I got no beef.
If someone tries to destroy an actual American flag that is like Was used in a battle was flown at a fort.
I don't care if it was like they put it up at a you know You know insert military base for one day before taking it down and replacing it That is an American flag and should not be desecrated and should not be besmirched stolen or destroyed But if you buy your own like nylon flag from the store, I don't care what you do with it But that's one of the moral foundations about, I think that has to do with sanctity or something like that.
Like, I don't know, purity?
phil labonte
Purity is one of them.
I don't think it's sanctity.
I think it's purity.
tim pool
I don't, it's something about like, do you care about where you come from and things?
And I think if you don't have that, if you are like, I don't care about the flag, who cares?
What happens is that mindset destroys a society because you don't preserve the things that allowed you to succeed in the first place.
Well, let's read some more Super Chats.
I really want to buy that Lenin statue.
phil labonte
Yeah, man.
I can't find a thing that says that it's still for sale.
All the stuff that I can find is from 2015, 2016, and then... Is this?
This is 2017.
2016. Uh, and then is this, this is 2017. Is it still for sale?
tim pool
I'd like to, because we're building new chicken city.
Well, so, Chicken City right now is new Chicken City.
What's that?
It's the, it's the, we have like 30 chickens outside and they have their own city.
It's a live stream.
unidentified
So nice.
tim pool
Yeah, so the first one housed 7 chickens, and then 8 chickens, and it was destroyed.
And that was Chicken City.
And then we built new Chicken City, which is the current iteration.
The next thing we're gonna be building is Neo Chicken City, and I want it to be like Tokyo Cyberpunk.
phil labonte
Are you gonna put up all kinds of, like, neon lights?
tim pool
Yeah, neon lights.
And I'd love to get little sunglasses for some of the chickens.
phil labonte
Some Razor-style, like, Yankees-style, yeah.
tim pool
And, like, you know, cyberpunk, Tokyo cyberpunk, Neo-Chicken City.
But it would be cool if we could get the Statue of Lenin and put the roosting bar across so the chickens, when they go to sleep, chickens sleep on things, they like to go up high, but they just poop.
It just happens.
Yeah, just all over Lennon's face.
And on camera.
Imagine that.
The Chicken City camera pointed right at Lennon's $300,000 face with chicken crap flopping on it.
Dude, I kind of feel like we would get far left as to attack us over something like that.
Like, desecrating a religious figure to them.
ian crossland
Oh, do people actually still worship that guy?
tim pool
Oh, dude!
phil labonte
Oh, yes!
Oh, yes.
Communism is an ideology.
ian crossland
That's the problem, because real communism hasn't been tried.
unidentified
What?!
ian crossland
Let's just go to the next Super Chat, I'm joking.
unidentified
Alright, Nick Sherman says, Oh, he's had a heart attack!
tim pool
Phil should make a new song called Two Weeks.
To slow the spread and just do nothing but expose all the BS that was happening nowadays in the lyrics.
phil labonte
All the guitars are out of tune.
We're not playing in time.
Everybody has a different metronome in their ear.
ian crossland
They're all remoting in.
phil labonte
Yeah, just like a train wreck.
Latency everywhere.
serge du preez
All over Zoom.
tim pool
Paul Renfro says, come on Tim, everyone knows the suspect handcuffed in the police car was clearly the acorn version of Magneto.
Yes.
Acorno.
And he could control acorns.
Man.
phil labonte
Acorno.
Good one.
tim pool
In what reality... Could you imagine the sound of an acorn hitting a car?
ian crossland
You can hear it in the video.
It sounds like a little metallic ding.
But he was right next to it.
Maybe it resonated.
I don't know.
tim pool
I think the guy is...
Like either he's cognitively malfunctioning or he was intentionally trying to kill that guy.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
I don't know about that.
I swear those are bulletproof in those cars anyway.
phil labonte
No, they're not.
But I tell you what, there was a whole lot of bullets shot at the car to not be trying to kill him.
tim pool
This is a fair point.
Alexander Scarpacci says, I think the cop had a psychotic episode.
That's why he wasn't charged.
Mental health issue.
Fair point.
Yeah, I think that's that's fair.
ian crossland
Yeah, he broke down.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yep, and then when he was like, I'm good, but I feel weird He thought he was shot Yeah, you know what it was funny because I was thinking exactly that when you're like he must have rolled over a stone I'm like, what if he just rolled over his flashlight?
Yeah, he on the ground his flat flashlight pressed into his side and he's like, oh it hurts could have been broken glass You know who knows?
What do we got Ryan Hunter says, to add to your conspiracy theory, I think those ridiculous rolls were an attempt to destroy the badge cam.
Interesting.
Yeah, like, why did he do two combat rolls?
unidentified
Oh, maybe.
tim pool
That made no sense.
phil labonte
No, I mean, you're faster on your feet.
Right.
tim pool
Why would he roll on the ground twice?
unidentified
Something really shady about that.
serge du preez
Yeah.
That whole, like, the calling out shots fired thing, for me, it's like, he didn't even reach for his... You don't hear the comm go off, and he didn't do anything like that.
I don't know, man.
It's fishy.
It's really fishy.
tim pool
Woody says, I really need an answer to this.
Tim, where is it stated that the President has the declassification power, you say?
I have a clearance in training and others who work with classified say the President goes through the same process to declassify.
What's the process to declassify?
What authority is above the President in negotiating and determining what information should or should not be made available to people outside of the US intelligence or security apparatus?
If the President of the United States was negotiating with Vladimir Putin on a peace treaty, And the president, let's go back in time, let's say Ronald Reagan is negotiating with, who was the premier at the time, or whatever the president, Gorbachev?
unidentified
Gorbachev.
And Gorbachev says, we're going to put nukes in Cuba.
tim pool
And he's like, you better not do that.
unidentified
And he's like, okay, well, we don't do that if you don't put them in Turkey.
tim pool
And he goes, I can't tell you if we have any in Turkey.
What do you mean you can't tell me?
Do you or don't you?
And he's like, I can't tell you, it's classified.
Okay, we are literally negotiating right now to take our nukes out of Cuba if you're willing to tell us where you've got your nukes and you remove them as well.
I can't tell you.
Gotta get it approved by some committee!
That makes literally no sense.
The President of the United States would need to go to a foreign leader and say, we will end this war tonight if you pull your troops out of this region.
Imagine Donald Trump goes to Vladimir Putin.
He gets elected, it's 2025, and he says, Putin, get your troops out of the Eastern Ukraine.
We're going to end this war.
And Putin goes, fine.
But I want you to remove your resources and intelligence from Ukraine as well.
And Trump goes, we don't have any there.
I don't know.
And he's like, we know you do.
I can't say.
Are you going to negotiate with me on the Senate?
unidentified
Don't know.
tim pool
It's classified.
phil labonte
Ridiculous.
tim pool
That makes no sense!
ian crossland
Even if he was like, I want to tell you, but I can't.
unidentified
The weakest, the most piss poor diplomacy you can have for a leader.
phil labonte
If that's the case, why are they talking to him?
Right?
So ostensibly, the person that you're doing the negotiations with would be like, if you can't negotiate, if you don't have the authority, Then you're a joke.
Why am I talking to you?
I should be talking to someone else.
tim pool
We can negotiate, but I'll take it to a committee of unelected bureaucrats who work in intelligence who can make the determination as to whether or not we can let you know if we're going to do anything you say.
It's a joke.
serge du preez
It's so crazy.
tim pool
Yeah, the president is the executive branch.
He is the commander-in-chief.
That's the issue with immunity as well.
He is the chief enforcer of federal law.
He is the executive.
So the reason why we say he has to be impeached first is because we don't want the weaponization of law against the person who's supposed to be enforcing it.
And it is a challenge because, you know, my argument against the libertarians is that a hierarchical law enforcement system effectively gives you a system of appeals in law enforcement.
If a court gives you a bad decision, you can appeal to a higher court.
They can choose to accept or not accept your argument, and then maybe advance your claim, and then it can advance to the Supreme Court, where it ends.
In terms of law enforcement, you call the cops.
They don't give you the results you want.
You can appeal to a higher law enforcement department, and they may or may not assist you.
It also prevents interstate, city, and county conflict.
It's not perfect.
I think it has a lot of corruption problems, but you know.
But yeah, the funny thing is, the question is, where is it stated the President has declassification powers?
There are far better informed individuals than I. I would suggest Will Chamberlain, who is a lawyer, and actually did a lot of writing about this.
But short of going back to the reporting that we did a long time ago, I don't have any of those sources pulled up for you other than the sheer absurdity it would be of the President of the United States being unable to negotiate with NATO.
with China? Literally anybody. Could you imagine Trump goes to
NATO, and he's like, all right, so we've got a big thing we're doing. And I can't tell you but involves missiles. Sir, yes,
Germany, where are you putting this can't tell you it's classified. You make exactly his voice. Well, that one was
not a very good one. I was taking it a little easy. But we'll
grab it. We'll grab another one. Lance de Boer says Tim, I'm a
veteran of 10 years of fast food style service relating to WA
minimum wage increase.
Small business over a grand every time the menu went up in prices for sign purposes on the menu.
I now work in construction making way more and I feel justified in my hourly rate.
It's a lot of things people don't consider.
When they say we're increasing minimum wage by 50 cents, you say, okay, How much so that's you know what 5% increase in all wages for those if you're making 10 bucks an hour.
So we're going to have to increase prices comparable to the increase in wages to cover that cost.
Gotta change the menu.
Now, these days it's all digital.
It's a lot easier to change a menu because they're just TV screens.
ian crossland
Oh, or you gotta scan- by the way, I think that's unethical when they make you scan a barcode when you go to a restaurant because there could be malware.
I don't think- we need to legislate that you cannot- you need paper menus.
Maybe you can have it as an option if people want to scan it.
tim pool
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And was filming and got attacked by the people there.
I believe it was at a church, so we'll talk about that.
And you can follow the show at TimCastIRL.
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Ana, do you want to shout anything out?
unidentified
Sure, you can follow me on eggs and Instagram with my name, ADA underscore LLUCH.
And thank you so much for having me.
tim pool
Right on.
phil labonte
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You can follow us on Apple Music, Spotify, Pandora, Amazon Music, YouTube, you know, the Internet.
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ian crossland
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It's great.
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serge du preez
See you later.
Thanks, y'all, for tuning in.
I am Serge.com.
Follow me on the internet, on Twix.
I like to argue.
Let's do it.
tim pool
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