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GOP BETRAYED Voters With FAKE Border Security Bill, Feds Call AK Guard To US Border| Timcast IRL
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tim pool
The border bill, it's not really a border bill.
They're calling it a border security bill, but it is a disaster.
It's basically funding for Ukraine to the tune of $60 billion, funding for Israel, and $20 billion for amnesty, I guess?
The bill basically just codifies exactly what it is the Biden administration is doing.
It creates an easier path for asylum seekers, quote-unquote, to be granted asylum and to be given work permits.
This was the play.
It was obvious.
Joe Biden screws up the border and basically creates a mess.
Then, when Republicans start complaining, Joe Biden says, I need, I need a bill.
Then when they put together a bill giving Biden everything he wants and destroying the border, they call it a security bill.
So when Republicans in the House, not the Senate, oppose it, the media will run rampant screaming, the Republicans are against their own bill.
That was the narrative and that's exactly what's happening.
So we'll talk about that.
Plus we got crazy news.
Depending on how you view it.
The federal government has sent a memo calling on the Alaskan National Guard to deploy to the southern border, which would include Texas for support for aviation.
It's a single grain of sand in the heap of things are kind of heating up.
The last time this happened, as many people are claiming, it's routine, this happens all the time.
The last time it happened was five years ago under Trump, and it was 10 personnel.
We're now seeing 20 personnel.
It's either the most tone-deaf thing imaginable, the most tone-deaf thing you can do at a time when the state is in... 14 states basically had a meeting.
All their governors came together saying, we will secure the border against the Biden administration.
Joe Biden has threatened a deadline against them.
And now you've got the Alaska National Guard coming down to work with CBP on the border, and this does include Texas as part of their deployment.
Naturally, there are already attempts to claim this is nothing, don't worry about it, but it's a grain of sand.
And I think it's probably bad precedent, but we'll talk about that.
Plus, Well, I want to talk about this rumor of RFK Jr.
running on Libertarian tickets, and maybe, and then I want to talk about Michael Rapoport, leftist comedian, well, liberal comedian, who absolutely, he's not a leftist, he's a liberal, absolutely hates Donald Trump, has now made several videos talking about how he's gonna vote for pig-dick Donald Trump, so we'll talk about him.
He's a funny guy, but he's very liberal.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Josh Smith.
joshua smith
Hey, what's going on, Tim?
Thanks so much for having me back.
I appreciate you.
tim pool
Absolutely.
Who are you?
unidentified
What do you do?
joshua smith
I'm the host of Break the Cycle with Joshua Smith, live in the evenings on YouTube, and I'm a candidate for President of the United States for the Libertarian Party.
tim pool
Right on.
So this should be interesting.
We got Phil hanging out.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Labonte.
I am the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
tim pool
And Libby's hanging out.
libby emmons
Hey, guys.
I'm Libby Emmons.
I'm hanging out.
I'm with the Post Millennial.
Glad to be here.
tim pool
And of course, sir, just pressing all the buttons.
serge du preez
Yes, I am back.
I am here.
It's good to be back.
I also see a friend of mine across the table here.
ian crossland
What's up?
unidentified
What's up?
ian crossland
Yo, I made it back.
I'm back from Miami.
What's happening, everybody?
Welcome back.
I feel good, man.
I got out of town.
I went to Miami and I'm like, yo, you want to talk about a culture war?
Being in a place with a bunch of people that you don't necessarily agree with and you're not the one curating who you're going to hang with and hanging with them for a long time anyway.
And just being with those people, that's like frontline material.
It's really invigorating.
phil labonte
I was just in L.A.
for a week.
ian crossland
And so was Libby.
Libby was in California.
libby emmons
Yeah, I was in California for a good stretch.
I was in L.A.
working with Prager on something and then... Did you step in any poop?
No, but I did keep saying to my son, hey hon, don't step in the poop, hey watch it, don't step in the poop, that we were in L.A.
and San Francisco and we actually had a spectacular time.
tim pool
We were, me and Allison were hanging out at MGM National Harbor all weekend and I had some stories early in the day about this Trump derangement syndrome guy, but there was another guy who was a fairly liberal guy who was like, I don't like Donald Trump, we gotta vote for Biden, blah blah blah, but he was complaining about the poop.
He really, he was like, he's like, have you seen they got this map, the social media app where you can see all the poop?
And I was like, you get it.
Why would you want to vote for these people?
ian crossland
Poop and death, it's like two things.
joshua smith
In California, the politicians fell upwards.
That's what, Gavin Newsom, they wanted to cover the whole state in poop.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story.
We'll get, we'll kick it off with this Huffington Post headline.
It's a betrayal.
Republicans go ballistic over bipartisan border bill they demanded.
This is the game.
Everybody who knows anything about politics predicted exactly this.
Biden comes out and says, I need a new law to secure the border.
Republicans and Democrats in the Senate come together and create an amnesty bill which codifies exactly what Biden is already doing.
There's no negotiation here.
It literally just gives Biden everything locked in, nailed in, bang!
And so when House Republicans are like, yo, no!
The media, of course, was always going to say the Republicans are lying, obstructing, and this was part of their plan.
Donald Trump wants chaos.
This is what they're saying.
They're saying that The reason why, in the House, they're calling this bill done on arrival and they won't vote on it is because they're terrified of Donald Trump and Donald Trump wants chaos so he can win the election.
It is the long con.
But here's the reality.
We've got this post from Mike Lee, U.S.
Senator for Utah, who says, the dirty dozen disasters in the so-called border deal codifies catch-and-release, allows up to 1.8 million illegal aliens to enter before temporary closing off parts of the border, It funds sanctuary cities and NGOs sending illegals around the country.
It subsidizes free taxpayer-funded legal counsel to illegal aliens.
It expands parole instead of limiting it.
It increases green cards by $50,000 per year for five years.
Work permit for adult children of H-1B visa holders.
Immediate work permits to every illegal released from custody after they pass an initial screening.
Nothing to deport illegals.
Afghan Adjustment Act creates a pathway decision for over 60,000 poorly vetted Afghans who were brought to the country due to Biden's disastrous withdrawal.
Weakens asylum screenings by codifying Biden policy.
No immediate funding for the wall.
And now, I love how Mike Lee said, this is bad for the border.
What it doesn't mention is $60 billion in funding for war in Ukraine.
Or I believe it's, what, $14 million for funding for Israel.
joshua smith
$74 billion in total between Ukraine and Israel.
And the whole bill is only $120 billion.
So, I mean, you're talking $20 billion for border.
And then it's basically a war powers bill.
libby emmons
It's a foreign wars funding act.
tim pool
Zero dollars.
Zero laws and zero policy for border security.
joshua smith
Well, and the craziest thing, and Libby and I were talking about this before the show started, if you read through the bill, and I don't know why Mike Lee's not bringing this up and other people, but there's a portion of this bill, there's a provision in this bill that gives the right for all of these things to be heard in the D.C.
District Court going forward.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's right.
unidentified
We found it.
joshua smith
Yeah, it's going to give them... It's on there on 150.
tim pool
Yeah, it's going to give them... Where can I put that?
libby emmons
Page 150, do a search for judicial review.
It's right there at the bottom, page 150.
joshua smith
All reviews on these matters will go through the district court in DC, in the District
of Columbia. So they will have free reign over all of these issues from now on in DC.
phil labonte
The biggest problem with the bill, the existence of the bill, is the Republicans allowing it to
be debated is giving credibility to the argument that there is a necessity,
is that the bill is necessary in the first place.
The federal government has all of the authority that it needs to take care of the border.
There does not need to be another bill.
There doesn't need to be new authorization from Congress.
There does not need to be anything except for the executive to use the powers that he has and to handle the job assigned to him in the Constitution.
One of the few things that are specifically said that the president has to take care of.
tim pool
I just want to give a shout out.
I asked Libby to tweet out the bill so I could pull up the DC provision.
But Libby retweeted Mike Cernovich.
He said, if the border bill were truly a compromise, Democrats would support it as a standalone rather than tie it to the $60 billion WTF to money laundering Ukraine.
It's all about money laundering.
But I just love the WTF.
Like $60 billion.
It's done.
It's over.
It's remarkable that anyone in their right mind could try to justify this expense.
joshua smith
Meanwhile Ukraine's forcibly enlisting females to fight their war because they're doing so badly.
How long have they been doing that?
At least a month now.
So they're forcibly enlisting women to fight their war.
libby emmons
We're in Ukraine?
joshua smith
In Ukraine, yeah.
libby emmons
Well, women are already fighting in Israel for sure.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
libby emmons
That's like part of the deal.
phil labonte
But the situation in both Israel and in Ukraine is like these are arguably existential threats, right?
So like if the Palestinians had their way, there wouldn't be an Israel.
And if Russia has its way, they might take at least half of Ukraine.
tim pool
Oh, I mean, can I point out that when I said $14 billion to Israel, that includes to Palestine as well?
joshua smith
Right.
libby emmons
Because we're funding both sides of that war.
tim pool
Absolutely.
joshua smith
And we have been forever.
libby emmons
Like clowns!
Like damn fools!
phil labonte
We're dummy shit!
joshua smith
I mean, anybody who's watched our foreign policy in the Middle East for the last, I don't know, three, four, five decades knows that we always fund both sides of every war.
Then we never lose!
It's so infuriating.
tim pool
Schumer is saying the children of Gaza will starve.
And like, come on, we all know when you send money to these NGOs, it funnels up to Hamas.
As soon as these resources go in, Hamas is the governing body, they take it.
Why are we playing this game?
And I'm not saying like, pick a side.
I'm saying neither!
Let's come back to America, baby!
phil labonte
The fact that we're talking about it is so frustrating because there is absolutely no legitimate reason for Ukraine and Israeli funding to be tied to controlling our own border.
libby emmons
It's so goddamn frustrating!
It's a lie, right?
I mean, it shows the lie so clearly.
You don't care about American sovereignty.
Not at all!
You don't care about American national security.
What they really don't care about are Americans.
I mean, when I talk to liberals, when I talk to conservatives, everyone's like, yeah, it's a little too much.
This whole immigration thing is too much.
You have officials in New York saying it's going to destroy New York City, and everyone's like, oh, let's just do that anyway.
Let's destroy New York City.
tim pool
Let me read this.
This is page 150 of the bill.
It says, judicial review.
Notwithstanding any other provision of this act, judicial review of any decision or action in this section shall be governed only by the United States District Court for the District of Columbia, which shall have sole and original jurisdiction to hear challenges, whether constitutional or otherwise, to the validity of this section or any written policy directive, written policy guideline, procedure, or implementation thereof issued by or under the authority of the Secretary to implement this section.
Long story short, do you guys want to know what this bill is?
ian crossland
It's trying to corporatize the American government by giving diplomatic control to the Federals.
tim pool
They're trying to make sure that Donald Trump will have no power to do anything about the border if he becomes president.
ian crossland
They said constitutional or otherwise, meaning we're going to do it whether it's constitutional or not if we sign this bill.
joshua smith
Well, and it's, I mean, listen, I'm not a lawyer.
tim pool
Let's read that again.
It literally says, whether constitutional or otherwise.
joshua smith
Now I'm not a lawyer, and I'm not super versed in legalese, but I will say that sounds to me like we're giving full reign to DC already has full reign over a lot of stuff.
libby emmons
We already know that Biden didn't need a border bill to do anything.
He signed all of this open border nonsense into executive orders and various actions within his first couple of days in office.
Huge numbers of border measures saying, we're going to increase the number of asylum seekers we're going to let in, we're going to Give everybody a court date.
We're going to, instead of remain in Mexico, we have remain in the U.S.
for as long as it takes.
And now this border bill, what it really does is it says we're going to get more border agents to process more people faster.
We're going to get more immigration judges to give more people asylum faster.
phil labonte
There's nothing good in there.
libby emmons
There's nothing good.
tim pool
The record was 10,000 per day.
This says, if it reaches $8,500 per day, then we'll move the rest to a legal port of entry.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
There's no... They're not saying they're going to stop them.
They're saying, after $8,500, the rest can go apply at a legal port of entry, and it removes the requirement for courts in many circumstances.
libby emmons
Well, and you saw what Chris Murphy said, right?
Chris Murphy, who's one of the architects of the bill, said that under this bill, the border never closes.
He said the border never closes.
So what kind of border security is this if we can't even close our own borders?
joshua smith
Well, here's the thing, too.
So I don't know if you saw this, but if you saw this bill, you'd be criticizing every portion of this bill if it came across your desk and you actually had the time to read it before.
libby emmons
Yeah.
joshua smith
But Matt Gaetz, who for all intents and purposes is a pretty decent guy most of the time on some of this stuff, but he came out and he said, why don't we just defund UN so we can fund Israel?
I had to pose to him.
I said, Matt, you realize this isn't Israel, right?
We don't live in Israel.
You're the America First guy.
What are you doing, you know?
But yeah, this whole bill is from front to back just terrible.
libby emmons
There's nothing good in there.
We fund the UN and the UN hires a bunch of people that are linked to Hamas and puts them in Gaza to distribute all of the aid to Hamas.
tim pool
But this is where we can find a compromise.
How about we say, alright, 60 billion to Ukraine, but no more funding to the UN ever, no funding to, you know, this is the last one, like, you tie it to something.
What did I say?
The general idea is you tie it to something in such a way that it puts them in a position they can't maintain.
phil labonte
We'll fund the wars that they want if we can bulldoze all of Washington, D.C.
unidentified
No!
joshua smith
Listen, 12% of the population... 12%... Okay, if we can bulldoze D.C., I'm in.
No, but 12% of the population of the United States is having a problem putting food on the table today, and we're sending $60 billion to Ukraine.
unidentified
Why?
joshua smith
Why?
unidentified
Because Chuck Schumer is threatening us.
libby emmons
It is money laundering.
And he threatened that if we don't do it, then he's going to send our kids to go fight in Eastern Europe.
phil labonte
Everybody that's in office now needs to get fired.
November needs to be an absolute, it must be a massacre.
Everybody that's in office, if you're an incumbent, fire them.
A metaphorical massacre.
We're talking about the vote.
tim pool
Let me pull up this from the Postmillennial.
Chuck Schumer demands border never closes bill pass or else U.S.
troops will have to fight in Ukraine.
He did not literally say Ukraine.
He said in Eastern Europe in a NATO ally in a few years.
And so it's vague enough.
First, he could mean Poland.
He could mean Sweden.
I think it's fair to argue he might literally mean Ukraine, in that the West wants to take control of it and would absolutely shove it to NATO if they had to.
But he's basically saying, Vladimir Putin is going to invade Europe, and so we need this border security bill?
Who's border security?
unidentified
Ukraine's?
libby emmons
It's a Ukraine border security bill.
joshua smith
I want to know how my border got to Ukraine.
libby emmons
It's pretty bizarre.
joshua smith
You know, when we say, how did our freedoms get to the Middle East?
How did our border get to Ukraine?
ian crossland
Who's we now?
phil labonte
Fire them all, bulldoze DC, salt the earth.
ian crossland
I truly, I'm coming to believe this hypothesis, at least I have the hypothesis, that we are in a slow coup that's been going on for a hundred years, man.
unidentified
Slow?
ian crossland
It's like a banking, yeah, they're trying to do it not fast enough to alert the people.
tim pool
JFK.
ian crossland
Like JFK, the Federal Reserve, the business plot, There's so much.
There's so many foreign wars that are proxy wars with money getting laundered away from our country.
And like, I mean, 9-11 even, I could just go down a list of things I find in my hypothesis that this is a news show.
I'm not going to do that on a news show, but like the last 10 years, it's been like, they're like, make it, don't alert them.
Don't alert them.
Just let's get the money.
Let's do the COVID spending.
It increased our budget by like 20%, our deficit by like 20% in like two years.
tim pool
Soft coup.
I mean, I would actually suggest, I would ask, at what point does the government become the functioning and in control government, right?
So Taiwan, the official name of Taiwan is what the Republic of China, I believe, correct?
Yeah.
And so many people make the joke that Communist China is just West Taiwan.
Because the original government of China fled to Taiwan.
They've maintained themselves ever since, resisting the communists.
And so my question is, at what point, after the coup happened in the United States, Woodrow Wilson, who knows, the banker plot, the Federal Reserve... 1913, that's about right.
Right, so my point is simply this.
Maybe the revolution was Donald Trump.
Not that he is a perfect guy, not that he was the guy, but that he ripped the establishment's power in twain, and they were losing their minds.
libby emmons
And they're still losing it.
tim pool
Absolutely.
And so when everyone's like, they're trying to stage a coup, and I'm like, well, you know, the thing is, the establishment was in control.
The Uniparty was in control.
Then a bunch of people on the internet made a bunch of memes, and the reality TV real estate mogul wins, And says, don't do wars, we're shutting it down, secure our borders, and then they lose their minds like, we've lost control of this.
That's why it's funny when they say our democracy.
They say Donald Trump is a threat to our democracy.
They're literally saying that there's a populist uprising against the autocratic control we've maintained for generations.
ian crossland
Yep, that's true.
It was George Bush Sr.
in the 90s said that we were moving towards a new world order, this liberal economic order was fading into something new, a global order.
And Trump got into office and cancelled the Trans-Pacific Partnership right away, three days in.
If you look at the Investor State Dispute Settlement Clause in that Trans-Pacific Partnership, it said foreign countries, these investors, these Malaysian oil companies, can sue a state For discrimination.
If we chose not to buy a Malaysian company's oil as American citizens, they could sue our country, and as taxpayers, we would have had to pay a corporation out.
That's what that Trans-Pacific Partnership was going to do to us, and Obama was on board.
And then Trump came in and threw it in the garbage.
I don't even know if he knew what it was, what it was doing.
I don't know if he stopped something he understood.
tim pool
He just knew there were a bunch of people outside yelling Trump, and they had expressed concerns about it.
joshua smith
Let's not fool ourselves and act like there's not so much foreign influence today still in the United States.
Of course, of course.
Apex, arguably one of the very strongest outside influences in the United States today and it's, you know, and it's not good for us as Americans, especially when you're an American first person.
But Trump got in office and immediately hired John Bolton.
unidentified
So, I mean, the establishment thing is kind of... No, no, I think Donald Trump... He was not great at hiring.
joshua smith
It was the worst.
It was really bad.
tim pool
Understand Donald Trump thought...
He was like, I'll play ball and I'll get done what I want to get done.
And they were like, no, no, no, no, no.
You don't understand.
You live under our boot.
You know, they, they, the, the, the joke is, you know, as soon as you win the election, you sit down in the Oval Office, guy from the CIA sits down and just hands him, sits down to Mr. President, opens a manila folder and then slides a picture of JFK right across the table and says, we'll be in touch and then leaves.
ian crossland
Right.
tim pool
We get it.
We get it.
Trump is the guy who was like, what is this?
I don't know what you're showing me.
Why are you showing me a picture of this guy?
And they're like, um, We're letting you know.
Letting me know what?
I don't get it.
Too dumb to intimidate.
He doesn't understand what I'm trying to say to him.
He's like, look, we're going to secure the border.
We're shutting down.
There was no Mr. President.
We're not.
unidentified
Yes, we are.
tim pool
I'm the boss.
And he doesn't listen.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So what do I think is?
When Trump was running, I remember I was in D.C.
Trump had a meeting with a bunch of established Republicans.
They did not want him.
The Democrats wanted him to be the Pied Piper candidate.
Trump, I think, genuinely wants to secure the borders, bring jobs back.
That goes against their agenda.
And so he thinks, when he gets in, now I'm the president.
I've got to play ball with some of these guys.
I've got to, you know, there's favors.
We'll bring in John Bolton.
I think Sheldon Adelstein wanted a lot of favors.
Absolutely.
And so then what happens?
Russiagate.
And Trump, I think, finally realizes, bro, you are being tricked, manipulated, and lied to, and you brought in a bunch of dumbasses.
phil labonte
I question whether or not there are people In available to fill the positions that are not currently like already steeped in the bureaucracy, right?
Right. Like there are a lot of positions that have to be filled.
And I don't know who you go with.
That's actually someone that's not, you know, that's not already got there.
They're, you know, significant connections to to the existing bureaucracy just because, you know, that's my
joshua smith
concern.
tim pool
But Bolton is like, well, obviously, the worst.
Let me tell you, in order to hire John Bolton, Trump had to drive past a local prison, drive past a city dump.
All better people and go way, way down to the to the Pacific garbage gyre where he got a submersible and went
down to where all the deepest trenches of garbage have sunk.
And dig even deeper than that.
And there's John Bolton.
joshua smith
We could have dug up the corpse of Madeleine Albright.
It would have been the same thing, essentially.
And so, yeah, it's terrible.
And so that was what worries me about Trump, too, right?
Like in 2024, should Trump win?
Is it the same thing going to happen?
And then that's great.
And I get that.
But my concern is that a lot of my young Republican friends, because I have a lot of friends that are Republicans, tons of friends that are very excited about Trump because of who the VP pick might be.
And I think everybody's like, oh, it's got to be somebody like Vivek or somebody like Kristi Noem or somebody like that.
And I'm like, you realize that like 80% of the GOP is still like deeply entrenched like neocons and they have to play to that part of the party, not the 7% that like Vivek.
tim pool
It would be really funny if Trump just like came out and was like, I've chosen my VP, John Bolton!
joshua smith
I think it's gonna be somebody along the lines of Nikki Haley, I really believe that.
ian crossland
I think it might be Tucker, man.
tim pool
I'll put it simply for those that don't know, John Bolton has a long history of working in administrations and just wanting more.
And so he had a quote, I think this was during the Trump administration, he said something like, this time next year we will be celebrating in Tehran.
And so he is just a...
Neocon, maximalist, warmonger character.
Nikki Haley ain't got nothing on the war he wants.
Trump hiring him was a mistake.
And then Bolton stabbed him in the back.
ian crossland
You could do the higher cabinet of a bunch of successful businessmen.
At this point, it's like the founders did.
The founding fathers were a bunch of successful businessmen that got together and started and ran a government together because they knew how to run things and they weren't entrenched in the garbage.
tim pool
Elon Musk for VP.
phil labonte
I mean, if you're talking about getting people that are actually going to satisfy, like, supposedly the other side of the aisle, the last people they're going to be satisfied with are people that are, like, you know, CEOs and board members of companies.
tim pool
Dude, you can't satisfy the other side of the aisle.
phil labonte
I would agree with that.
tim pool
We were talking about this downstairs because this song came on by Passion Pit.
And there's a line, he has a song called, I Took a Walk.
And there's a line in the song where it says, we can rip apart all the socialists and all their damn taxes.
And the left went nuts over the song, attacking the band and criticizing them, it was like a cancel culture thing, for having dared said that.
And that the point of the song though, is it's about the feelings of like his elder, his relatives, and it's quotes from them and things they have said.
He's not literally saying he hates socialism.
He's just saying like, this is what the older guy said to him.
But the left doesn't care what's true.
They don't care about the point of the statement or the message.
It's just, it's surface level.
It's one-dimensional thinking.
So if you want to satisfy these people, I mean, we were talking about this just before the show and I mentioned it in the morning segment about this guy.
I was playing poker and he had Trump derangement syndrome down in DC.
And I realized something, my girlfriend had said, he was muttering to himself, he was screaming, how could you vote for Trump?
He would not listen to a single word.
He asked me to name one thing Trump did that I liked, I said, no new wars, he keeps muttering.
He's like, you can't even name one thing, I'll make Abraham Accords, he keeps muttering.
And I'm like, this guy can't hear a word.
He's just sitting there.
So stupid.
These people are so dumb and stupid.
And then my girlfriend's like, he doesn't know what the Abraham Accords are.
And I was like, ah, there's no way for him to respond at all
to what that means because he doesn't know.
You can't satisfy these people because they live in a shoebox.
joshua smith
But arguably besides the no new wars thing, the best thing Trump did was like make people extreme
on the corporate news media being the enemy of the people.
I mean, that's the greatest thing that Trump did.
And it was hilarious watching him work.
I mean, just, you know, the way that he's able to just troll people in real life is amazing.
Like, that's great.
I love that.
But I do worry about Trump, too, and what that means for, you know, the people who get their hopes up for a lot of stuff and then it doesn't happen.
libby emmons
In 2020, less than half a million people came across the border and were apprehended.
It was less than half a million.
tim pool
Yeah.
libby emmons
Illegal immigrants.
unidentified
In 2020.
tim pool
What can you really expect from Donald Trump too?
Like, what is it that you think people are expecting?
joshua smith
I think, well, I think people, first of all, the VP spot.
I think that a lot of people are going to be let down when we find out who the VP is.
tim pool
But that's not even when he's president.
Let's say he gets elected and I don't know.
joshua smith
And you know, people are like, oh, it's going to be somebody great.
I'm like, do you remember who his VP was last time?
tim pool
So let's say it's Trump-Burgum.
I'm just picking like the least probable candidate.
joshua smith
Sure.
Yeah.
tim pool
What do people think?
Like, what do you perceive as the hopes and dreams?
joshua smith
I think on the extreme side, it's that, you know, all these people are going to go to jail, right?
Like, this is the revenge tour.
We're going to lock up all these corrupt people and shut down the border, and we're going to end all the wars, and we're going to, you know, give all the tax cuts.
But that's what a lot of people think.
tim pool
But no, no, no, but like, first, Locking people up and arresting everybody.
Maybe some people might get some referrals.
You don't think that some people won't get arrested?
joshua smith
I sure hope so.
tim pool
I don't think it's going to be like military tribunals where they go after the Clintons or anything.
I think it's going to be like we're going to hear about lawyers and we're going to hear about election officials.
There's going to be criminal charges brought up by... I mean, could you imagine if Kash Patel was the AG?
Right, there would be criminal charges.
I don't think it's going to be like this apocalyptic thing.
Ending wars?
Well, Donald Trump is the best president in my lifetime on foreign war.
And pulling our troops out of Afghanistan, setting the deadline for it, I should say, Biden screwed that up, trying to get our troops out of Syria, and no new wars.
joshua smith
He kind of expanded the Syrian war, though, a little bit when he did that too, right?
tim pool
When he tried to get our troops out?
joshua smith
Yeah.
How so?
Didn't we send them a bunch more cash right after that happened?
tim pool
I mean, if we're leaving, and like, if you came to me and said, we're gonna pull our, here's what Trump wants to do, he wants to get all our troops out of Syria, and then we'll give Syria some cash, it's like, okay.
joshua smith
But he didn't pull the troops out.
tim pool
No, no, no, he did, he gave the order, and then the officials lied to the American people, to him, and kept them in.
joshua smith
Fair.
tim pool
Right, that's messed, look, if the only thing I could be offered was, vote for Donald Trump, he'll take a dump on the floor of the White House, but he won't start a war, I'll take it.
libby emmons
Yeah, that is a better deal.
Considering how many people are taking dumps on the floor.
tim pool
To be honest, Joe Biden is like, he'll dump on the floor, in his pants, everywhere he goes.
He'll have to change his pants several times.
He'll start several wars.
And I'm like, well, there's no upside that.
joshua smith
Yeah, well, also, none of us are stupid enough to believe that Joe Biden is actually leading the foreign policy in the United States right now, right?
Dude is a mess.
They just did a poll, they just put out a poll where only 23% of the respondents said that they think his mental capacity is good enough to be president again.
And that's, I mean, I think that's high.
I think 23% is high, but that's really low in a poll for this country.
tim pool
Well, you heard what Bill Maher was saying.
Gavin Newsom's a winner.
He can win an election.
Sure.
Joe Biden Man.
You know, the argument from the DeSantis people that the only reason or one of the main reasons they don't want Trump is Trump is a loser.
He's going to lose.
Everyone hates him.
And it is true.
The only reason Joe Biden won is because people vote against Donald Trump.
I take that back.
Not the only reason.
A good factor in why Biden actually got votes was not because anyone liked Biden, but the strong factor in why Biden won was because activists went out and collected ballots.
phil labonte
Because they mailed ballots to people and then people were told how to vote.
joshua smith
Well, I'm telling you, listen.
libby emmons
And then they told us that wasn't happening.
I hate this.
joshua smith
The United States is really big on politicians failing upwards.
We've known this forever.
And coming from California, I watched Gavin Newsom ruin San Francisco.
San Francisco used to be a really beautiful city when I was a kid, and he ruined it.
He destroyed it.
And instead of going, hey, that guy really ruined one of our coolest cities in the state.
Let's get rid of him.
We said, let's make him the governor of the state.
And so we can have a Poo Maps for all of California.
And next, who knows?
Maybe the country.
ian crossland
Maybe the world.
Why stop there?
tim pool
Mars needs more.
There was an article written several years ago that I had covered.
California is five years ahead of the United States.
Over the past several decades, whatever happens in California five years later is national.
And so they talk about a bunch of policies, you know, gay marriage was a big issue in California, things like that.
Illegal immigration, sanctuary cities became... Sanctuary states for trans kids.
Well, California had sanctuary cities, which then turned into a sanctuary state, and then all of a sudden you start seeing it spread across the country.
And I think it has a lot to do with the undue influence they have through illegal immigration.
They get extra votes.
joshua smith
Oh yeah, there's no doubt.
tim pool
Yeah, some members of Congress have said it's between five and seven extra congressional seats, which is five to seven extra electoral college votes for president because of non-citizens they have illegally allowed into their country in defiance of federal law.
libby emmons
Well, under Trump, Trump said that the census should differentiate between people who are here illegally and citizens who are, you know, obviously lawful citizens.
And that's what he was aiming for.
And Biden reversed that within his first few days in office.
And of course, the reason is to get more congressional seats for Democrat-led states that allow all that illegal immigration.
tim pool
I want to jump to the story from the Anchorage Daily News.
February 3rd, Alaska National Guard plans deployment to assist federal government on US-Mexico border.
I love it.
I posted an image of this and someone said, who knew Alaska was so based?
And everyone responded, Alaska assisting the feds is not based.
So the gist of the story is this.
They're deploying a couple aircraft and 20 personnel to assist with the aircraft.
They say it's routine.
This is, they say, Major Ryan Wierzbicki, a spokesman for the U.S.
Army's Joint Task Force North, said in a phone interview that Alaska Guard members would be sent to any of four states along the border, including Texas and Arizona.
Federal requests for states to provide border assistance are issued regularly and have become routine.
Now, I tweeted about this somewhat facetiously.
I said, what do you call it when a National Guard is called up to go against another state's National Guard?
And I got community noted on X, where it took selective excerpts from the article to obfuscate what's actually happening.
It said, they are not going against each other.
I'm like, I asked the question intentionally, you know, not to state it definitively, but it is true.
These individuals will be providing assistance to CBP in Texas as well as.
But that does mean Texas.
That does mean part of their deployment will put them up against Texas.
I don't know how else to describe it.
If Texas National Guard is saying, no to CBP, back the F off, and you have no jurisdiction here, or we've cut you off from your jurisdiction, how in any way could you interpret Any amount of National Guard being called in by the feds to a variety of states, which include Texas, anything other than, they will be as part of the deployment against Texas National Guard.
It also says, they also said, it's a routine thing.
Many people responded saying, it's totally routine.
It's not that big a deal.
Yo, it says in the article, the last time they did this was 2019.
Five years ago is not routine.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Now, I'm not saying Joe Biden got on the phone and said, we need to bring the National Guard in to get to stop Texas.
I'm saying it's a grain of sand in a heap.
And the question is, is this the most tone-deaf move you could possibly make when the Texas National Guard has deployed armed soldiers to physically remove and bar federal agents from removing border barriers?
Or was it an intentional, CBP needs assistance because of what is happening with... Look, I'll put it this way.
I don't care what state they go to.
CBP and Texas are completely at odds as to how to operate this.
We've had people who have reported on the ground, at the border, tell us When Taylor Hanson was here, he said, tens of thousands of people, it's chaos, there's litter.
What happened after Texas took over?
Three?
Yeah.
He said four to six, maybe.
And I said, thousand?
He goes, no, no, no, no, four to six, like four, five, or six.
And I was like, you mean like on my finger four?
Yeah, four people.
I'm like, when, what?
So when CBP is facilitating human smuggling, and then Texas steps in, what do you think it's going to mean that the Alaska National Guard is assisting them?
It means these individuals who are providing assistance with aviation to the CBP will be at odds with the mission of the Texas National Guard.
That's a fact.
And I'll give you one more.
joshua smith
Let me see if I can find this... I had this... I'm surprised Alaska would send them, to be honest, and Dunlea, because it's... I mean, that state kind of already hates the Fed anyways.
Yeah, why would they do that?
That's like one of those states that's actually pretty anti-federal.
tim pool
I had the story pulled up, I lost it, but the Border Patrol Union supports the new border bill.
libby emmons
Yeah, there's a lot of pay increases and stuff for border guards in there.
tim pool
But the border bill, as we've covered in a previous segment, does not have any security at all.
It codifies 8,500 criminal aliens entering the country every day and gives them the funding, and it gives them more authority to adjudicate asylum claims without a judge.
So, of course, they're for it.
Do we want, let's say this law, look, they're planning on having this law probably pass, I doubt it'll happen, but if it did, and CBP is now in the legal, has legislatively been given the right to bring in five to eight thousand criminal aliens every day, and in some instances determine their asylum cases just right there, and they get work permits, Alaskan National Guard is going to be helping them do that.
joshua smith
And that's still three million illegals, illegal immigrants a year, by the way, which is not a huge drop in what we're seeing currently.
So it's it's not it's not good.
phil labonte
None of this is acceptable.
libby emmons
I mean, it also, though, I mean, the the the border bill also has an increase in pay for asylum and border agents.
Yeah, that's a big part of it.
tim pool
So I'll point this out, too.
In the community note, it said it has nothing to do with Operation Lone Star.
That's exactly my point.
Operation Lone Star is Texas' operation securing the border.
This mobilization has nothing to do with that.
It has to do with supporting Customs and Border Protection in what they do, which is the opposite of Operation Lone Star.
And so they are trying really hard to downplay this move being made.
I think we have to point this out because Alaskan governor, Mike Dunleavy, actually joined 24 other GOP governors in support of Greg Abbott.
Why now would he be like, okay, I guess?
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
We put pressure on them and say, don't you dare.
I don't care if it's 1, 5, or 20.
I don't care if it's 200.
We should say, no, CBP is facilitating human trafficking.
Do not send support.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
It's all for show, though.
libby emmons
Did you see what Abbott said?
He said that there had been 3,000 to 4,000 people coming across in a day, and now it's gone down to 3,000.
Yeah, it's wild.
joshua smith
That's what he was just saying.
tim pool
That's what Taylor Hanson was telling us.
Taylor has gone down.
Shout out to Tenet Media.
He reports for Tenet.
Taylor was saying that he was there during the peak of the crisis, and there's garbage and thousands of people.
And then once Texas takes over, 4,000.
phil labonte
That's wild.
If I understand correctly, they have moved the locations to places in New Mexico and Arizona?
They've started to go into other states?
tim pool
Which also makes sense for this deployment.
Texas, look, Texas is at odds with CBP.
They have put up barriers in Operation Lone Star shipping containers with razor wire all over them.
So the criminal enterprise is shifting operations to other parts of Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona.
So what?
Alaska National Guard is going to go help the human smugglers, CBP, at the border in Arizona?
That is still working against this country.
It's worse than just working against Texas.
joshua smith
Yeah.
And so like the 10th amendment gives Texas the right to handle their own border situation anyways.
I mean, at the end of the day, the border bell would get rid of that.
Yes, exactly.
That's, and that's the goal.
I think that's the goal because the 10th amendment gives them the right.
And what they've moved the deadline on the, the, the cutoff deadline from Biden.
What three times now has it been like three times?
tim pool
Cause they can't do anything.
joshua smith
They can't do anything.
They're the, the, the constitution gives Texas the right to, to guard their own borders.
They could guard, They're borders from any illegal invasion that they want to, because it's not mentioned that that power is strictly given to the federal government.
So what does the 10th Amendment say?
It says that anything not mentioned expressly for the federal government here in the Constitution is up to the states.
tim pool
Actually, what is it, Article 4, Section 4 states that the federal government must defend from invasion?
joshua smith
Sure, yes.
tim pool
Now you got this bill that the National Guard can respond with lethal force on the border.
Yeah, but they can litigate what is an invasion all day long for My point is, when you've got photos and videos of human traffickers with rifles, to the point where a Republican has proposed a bill that would allow the National Guard to use lethal force against these individuals, I'm like, uh, I kind of think when they're smuggling humans with weapons into our country, and many of them are flying the flag of their home country, and like, they have guns, I would call that an invasion.
ian crossland
Did you guys see Bret Weinstein talk to Tucker Carlson?
He went down to the Darien Gap, which is this area south of, I think, southern Panama.
tim pool
Yeah, the most dangerous.
ian crossland
Like 60 miles of jungle, where this is like where most people meet their maker when they're trying to flee here.
They go through the Darien Gap.
I don't know if most, but a lot of people die in that jungle.
And he said he saw camps.
Lots of camps, and they were very friendly.
One in particular, very friendly, and they let him in, and he was talking to people there.
They're fleeing economics.
They're not fleeing political asylum.
There's economic asylum, which is not... The U.S.
government, first of all, is not supposed to take people for economic asylum.
That's not a real thing.
Cause it displaces our own economics.
Secondly, then Brett's like, yo, and then I went to this camp and it was a Chinese camp and they wouldn't let us anywhere near it.
And they were what I would call hostile.
Wow.
So what I think is happening is that there is an economic migration happening, but it's masking an invasion.
phil labonte
Think of it like this.
libby emmons
I think that's, I think there's a good chance of that.
phil labonte
Yeah, there's something that people don't or that we don't talk about or people don't bring up much that I heard someone discussing today was the one child policy in China that went on from the 70s.
I think it was like just a couple until recently.
There are you know, probably a couple and I'm probably not exaggerating but I don't know for sure but I imagine it's probably a couple hundred million young men with no that have Nothing to do and no women.
China needs to do something with these guys.
libby emmons
Because women were aborted on top of everything else.
Little girls were aborted before they could be born.
phil labonte
Yeah, and so these guys, young men that have nothing to do, they start civil wars.
They start, they cause all the problems societies run into.
It's always young men that have nothing to do.
And don't have limits.
They don't have families.
tim pool
I want to clarify.
We got a super chat so I want to give some clarification because they're pointing out that it says potentially deployed in early 2025.
I think it's important that people know that but I don't think it changes anything that we're talking about right now.
It's tone-deaf right now to make this announcement.
And the other thing we talked about early in this segment is the point of the border security bill One strong point is that, and why they're starting wars, they want to make sure that whatever happens, if Donald Trump gets elected, they steamroll through what they want with or without him and lock him in place so he can't change anything about it.
Announcing this deployment early means that if Trump does get in office, he'll have a harder time stopping it from happening.
joshua smith
Can we talk about how crazy it is that we're bombing Iraq again for 33 years and we want to open the border completely?
I mean, we've destabilized so many regions in the Middle East and we're like, yeah, come on in.
It's totally cool.
No one's going to worry.
libby emmons
And also, when people come in, right, we have this part of our culture now is to tell everyone that America sucks and everything that America stands for is bad.
Part of whose culture?
That's part of American culture.
joshua smith
Not my culture.
libby emmons
That's part of the culture of the nation in which we were born and raised.
That culture has been taken over by really bad actors who hate America and hate Americans.
phil labonte
Cultural revolution.
libby emmons
It's a cultural revolution.
And so we have people coming in and you have all of these progressives saying, your culture is better than ours.
So don't bother assimilating.
Don't learn English.
Don't learn our values.
Don't become part of our culture.
And that's not how it used to be when you had like the Ellis Island community.
joshua smith
That's what they are, they're communists.
It's the communists that did that.
tim pool
You guys love poker tables.
You will get kicked out for speaking any other language but English.
libby emmons
I have fun hanging out watching you guys play poker.
joshua smith
Yuri Bezmenov warned us of this in the 80s.
I mean, he defected from Russia and said, hey, the communists are taking over every single one of your institutions, your libraries, your schools, your government, your hospitals, all of the not-for-profits, mental health care.
tim pool
What about the banks?
libby emmons
Publishing?
tim pool
But the only reason that matters... Have they overtly taken over the banks?
joshua smith
Probably, yeah.
tim pool
The only reason it matters that they did this is that we no longer go to church.
But to be fair, the communists are taking over a lot of churches too.
joshua smith
Yeah, that too.
I mean, there's a church right up the street from my house hanging a giant rainbow flag in front of the church.
phil labonte
Liberation theology.
joshua smith
Yeah, I'm like, what are you guys, what are you worshiping here, man?
libby emmons
I mean, this is not... I don't know, I moved to West Virginia and the churches, the church I go to is full.
joshua smith
I'm converting Orthodox currently because they're like the one church that hasn't cucked to the communists.
tim pool
Do you go to that one that's like downtown Charlestown?
libby emmons
I don't want to say on air.
joshua smith
Where do you go to church at?
tim pool
See you there.
libby emmons
See you every Sunday with my child.
tim pool
Seamus would go there and really nice and I told the story of how like we were gonna go grab food and Seamus was like yeah I got church and I'll be out at this time I was like cool meet up and you know I show up with my brother and I'm just wearing my clothes and I see these like little kids playing and they're dressed very nicely and I was like man Something got lost.
libby emmons
Yes.
tim pool
You know, and it's not about, in my opinion, it's not about being Christian and believing in God, although I think there's a strong correlation between these things.
libby emmons
Community is huge.
tim pool
Community and, what's the right word, I guess, decorum, in a sense.
libby emmons
Decorum, community, manners, feeling like you're part of something.
Like the church I went to in Brooklyn, where I really liked the, you know, I liked the other people there.
I taught CCD there, and I liked them.
But they... What does that mean?
tim pool
Sorry, CCD.
libby emmons
CCD, I forget what it's called, but it's basically where you teach the kids Catholicism, and they go through all the sacraments.
So they start young and they go through... Catechism.
Catechism, yeah.
joshua smith
You do the same thing for Orthodox Church, too.
libby emmons
Yeah, you go through all the sacraments, you have like, you know.
phil labonte
CCD is so you can get confirmed as an adult.
libby emmons
In the church, yeah.
But like you do.
joshua smith
You have to do it for Orthodox Church.
libby emmons
Confession and communion and confirmation and blah, blah, blah.
But it was very like there was a Spanish mass that had all the families at it and there were a ton
of kids and the whole mass was in Spanish.
And then you had the English mass, which was just a lot of old people and hardly any kids.
And we don't speak Spanish, so much the pity, I guess.
And we would walk out of mass and like all the families and kids were coming in and like,
we weren't part of that mass.
And I found it really frustrating.
And I would say to the, you know, I would say to the leadership of the church,
we should do one giant bilingual mass and parts of it are in Spanish and parts of it are in English.
And they'd be like, well, we won't all understand what's going on.
And I'm like, it doesn't matter if we know what's going on or not.
The only thing that matters is that my kids and your kids are all hanging out, you know, trying to get in trouble playing under the pews.
That's all that matters.
That's what matters.
tim pool
And that's the only thing they're doing to get in trouble.
libby emmons
Right, that's great!
You know, like, my son recently got in trouble because he was at CCD, and it turned out that he and his friend cut mass.
Like, they do CCD and then they have mass.
And the mom, my son's friend's mom, called and was very upset that the boys had cut mass.
And I'm thinking, like, yes, that's important.
They should not cut mass.
That's a problem.
I'm also thinking, this is great!
This is great!
Like, this is what you're doing?
You are rebelling by cutting mass?
I'm thrilled!
In Brooklyn, like, what are you doing?
You're, like, getting high on the street corner and robbing people.
Here, you're cutting masks.
unidentified
This is perfect.
joshua smith
Big deal, yeah.
Well, I'll say this before we move on.
unidentified
I hope he's not watching tonight.
joshua smith
I've been saying this for a while.
You know, the communists, the two things they have to be at war with all the time is a strong family unit and faith, right?
Because when you have those strong ideals in your family or in your church community, then you don't just automatically cut to the communists.
You don't say, oh, we need this collectivism to save us.
ian crossland
But what was it, video games or TV?
Because it was like the 90s when things started to fall apart.
Because that's when people started to go, when I started to go inward, I could play a game by myself for 10 hours alone without talking to someone.
I had books before that.
But if I ever played with toys, like Legos or micro-machines, it was way better to have a second person to play with.
A book, obviously I was always alone, and it didn't make me communist.
But video games made me very disconnected from human.
And then a lot of online games, it's not about being kind, it's about, like, talking shit online.
libby emmons
Well, that's what the schoolyard is, too.
The kids are talking shit.
joshua smith
The mid-2000s Call of Duty.
ian crossland
Maybe online stuff's not too bad.
Is it video games?
I don't want to blame them because I love them.
libby emmons
I don't think it is video games.
austin petersen
Why are people so disconnected?
phil labonte
It's in the schools.
All of the stuff, all of the socialization stuff, basically all the socialist influence that we have now.
It's all in the schools.
It started in the 80s, and that was when it first kind of took root.
libby emmons
Peggy McIntosh and Mr. Hapsack in 1989.
phil labonte
What's his name?
Paulo Freire and the pedagogy of the oppressed and stuff.
All of this stuff became the predominant way that teachers learned.
So this stuff got into the schools that teach teachers.
libby emmons
So that means that every teacher And then all those teachers went all over the country, so they're in Oklahoma and they're in Nebraska and Idaho.
phil labonte
Exactly, so these teachers are the teachers that teach the teachers, right?
So you get it at the very source.
You get them into an ideology that is based on an oppressor-oppressed dynamic, and you can apply that however you want.
You can apply it by race, you can apply it by gender, you can apply it by any way you want, but once you get that framework, Into the education of an entire generation, it just starts pumping out people that are ideologically possessed, that have the same worldview, which is, it is our job, it is government's job, it is our job, it is society's job to make things equal.
And that's why you get people that want equity, you want to have people that have equal outcomes, and that just turns into socialism.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story.
We got this from Sportskeeda.
Some libs are waking up.
Internet Reacts says comic Michael Rapoport says voting for Trump is on the table after seeing migrants beat NYPD.
I just want to say this real quick.
I can't remember who tweeted it.
It might have been Michael Malice, so apologies if I don't get the attribution right.
But someone said, imagine what it must feel like to be in the corporate press.
Where after nearly a decade of calling Donald Trump a fascist, far-right, white supremacist, you find that most people in this country intend to vote for him.
I saw that.
ian crossland
That was Cernovich.
tim pool
That wasn't Cernovich?
ian crossland
Maybe not.
tim pool
I know what you're talking about.
So it's a great point to be made.
The power of the media narrative is gone.
They can say whatever they want about Trump.
Nobody cares.
And now you've got Michael Rapoport, who spends his time or spend his time complaining online about Big Dick Donald Trump.
That's what he would say over and over again.
And now he's made a video saying voting for him is on the table.
And it's because... It's a really fun video.
unidentified
It is.
tim pool
There's a bunch of issues.
But mostly, this past week...
You got illegal, you got criminal aliens beating cops.
Hold on, let me start over.
You got criminal aliens mercilessly beating NYPD.
In Midtown.
In Midtown.
And they get arrested and are released right away.
libby emmons
Alvin Bragg, who has charged Donald Trump with like 30-something felonies, won't even say what the felonies are, released these guys.
And he was like, oh, we couldn't tell from the video exactly who they were.
But did you see this thing, Tim?
McConnell is now saying, don't, don't, don't vote for the bill.
unidentified
McConnell's saying don't vote for him.
libby emmons
McConnell is telling Republicans to block the Langford-Schumer borderless bill.
tim pool
We'll jump to that, but let me play the Michael Rapoport video.
I don't know, is it too crude?
libby emmons
Oh, it's fun.
tim pool
I think he's funny.
I think he's a funny guy.
unidentified
This is why when I say voting for pig d*** Donald Trump is on the table.
Voting for pig d*** Donald Trump is on the table.
tim pool
Wait, wait, why is he censoring Dick?
unidentified
The other day in New York City, six illegal aliens Two of them, right?
Two cops.
in my P.D.'s finest.
They jumped a New York City cop in Times Square and were arrested and released without bail.
I know it's a city thing.
I know it's a state thing.
I know all that. I know all that.
I know all that.
Okay?
Stay with me.
Released without bail.
Came out of the courtroom on some Tupac, raising the middle finger with the Detroit Red Wings jerseys.
What the f*** is the world coming to?
If you could be from another country, beat up a cop in New York City, and walk out with no f***ing bail?
What the f*** is the world coming to?
tim pool
Dude, he's right!
libby emmons
Yeah, Allen Bragg needs to be impeached.
tim pool
But this is not just like some cops gotta fight.
Dude, I have seen Occupy activists push a cop and get assault on an officer charges, and they're in deep trouble.
These people, like Michael Rapaport has come from another country, assault officers, and ain't no big deal.
joshua smith
I said it last time I was in your show, and I'm going to say it again.
One of two things is happening here with Michael Rapaport.
Either A, the Biden campaign stopped paying him.
But we have McConnell saying not to vote for this bill and Michael Rapoport saying that voting for pig dick Donald Trump is on the table.
Maybe the adrenochrome supply has run out and these people are starting to come back to real life.
Maybe it's true.
ian crossland
I think that's probably the case.
Reason is not an accident.
Reasonable people are the reason this country exists in the first place.
phil labonte
It's definitely not adrenochrome, Ian.
tim pool
It's not adrenochrome.
ian crossland
The reason is taking hold of these people.
tim pool
This is why I said that line about, imagine what it must be like to be a corporate journalist who for a decade said Trump was a fascist white supremacist, and today, people intend on voting for the guy.
More than half the country.
That's why, you know, I love telling the story about the dude I met in DC who had Trump's Arrangement Syndrome, because, pardon me, next time I encounter something like this, I'm not gonna try and argue with the guy, give a point, I'm just gonna say, I'm on the right side of history.
That's what I'm gonna say to him.
I'm gonna say, I'm on the right side of history, you're on the wrong side of history, We got, we got the polls.
So you're in the weird minority of weirdos who don't watch the news.
I don't know what you're going on about.
If people- Michael Rapoport?
If he's saying it, wow, we won.
phil labonte
Think about, think, yeah, like, I mean, to Tim's point, like, think about how many people, like, when they get into the voting booth and they're, you know, they've got their, you know, they're alone, they'll actually vote for Donald Trump, right?
They would never admit it, but when they actually got into the booth, they'd actually check for Donald Trump.
If people like, you know, Like this guy, are making, articulating that it's acceptable to conceive of yourself voting for Donald Trump.
I feel like there's probably a lot of people that this gives them permission.
You know what I mean?
People that don't feel confident.
libby emmons
This gives them permission to vote for Trump.
phil labonte
Exactly.
They feel like, now I can, someone else said it, I can do this.
And he noticed too, it's not just me, I'm not crazy.
Maybe Donald Trump, that's what I think a lot of people think.
tim pool
So the next time I'm at a poker table and some guy with Trump Derangement Syndrome starts yelling at me, I'm just gonna go, Listen, I'm gonna tell you why voting for pig dick Donald Trump is on the table!
Because New York City's finest were beat up!
Uh, let's play the rest of the video.
unidentified
I know, Mayor Adams, you're from Brownsville, Brooklyn.
I know this bull****.
What the **** have I gotten myself into?
Stay with me.
On the same day that that happens, Cadaver Joe Biden issues an executive order
about four **** quote unquote settlers in Judea, Samaria, AKA.
the West Bank, some troublemakers, three of the four have already been arrested.
You issue an executive order about four troublemaking f**k-ups who've already been arrested in Judea, Samaria, while there's a war going on, while there's 100-plus hostages still being held in Gaza.
You're talking about that, but you got nothing to say about m*****s Beating up cops in New York City, the greatest city on earth?
Maybe it's not.
Maybe my city is not the greatest city on earth anymore.
tim pool
Here's the important thing.
He's wearing a Star of David.
One of the things that really shifted Rappaport was the Israel-Hamas conflict.
And when he's coming out and being like, why is Joe Biden more concerned with the West Bank instead of our cops?
That's like, holy crap.
The first thing that came out was, what's going on with these activists who are anti-Israel?
Now he's actually like, yeah I care about Israel, but this year's more important.
He's being pushed further and further.
I want to give him a shout out.
Last time we talked about him, he has that really funny video where he gets hit in the head with a snowball.
joshua smith
The funniest video online, yeah.
tim pool
I know, it's one of the best.
Because he's self-aware.
I think he's a funny guy, and I respect it.
joshua smith
What if the whole thing was just a troll?
tim pool
It was.
The video of him getting hit with a snowball?
joshua smith
No, I mean prior to that.
All the shit about him, you know, hating the right and big dick Donald Trump and all that.
What if it was all just a big, giant con?
tim pool
It would be great if he just came out really calm, like, I just want to say to everybody that I never really hated Trump, I just thought it was funny to yell and make fun of him, and I'm voting for him, and thank you so much, and he puts on a MAGA hat.
joshua smith
After this video, I'm almost positive that they took his bag away.
He's not getting money from the Biden campaign anymore, for sure.
tim pool
But yeah, one of the big points, takeaways of this was he's actually mad that Joe Biden focused too much on Israel.
That's the crazy thing.
You guys hear about Biden saying Netanyahu is a bad dude or whatever?
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
He's trying to win these votes back.
libby emmons
Yeah, I think that was clearly leaked just to try and appease the progressive left and get them back on it.
See, I think Netanyahu's not amazing too, you guys, right?
We're all on the same team still, you know?
tim pool
He's a bad dude!
libby emmons
Come on, man!
tim pool
Run some bad boys.
libby emmons
But I think that was such an obvious, dumb leak, purposeful.
tim pool
I think once you've won over Michael Rapaport.
It's a good point you were saying, Phil, about giving permission.
Because I made the joke about being at the table and saying, you know, next time in public I'll say something like that.
But I guarantee there's probably a lot of guys who are default liberal, don't pay that much attention, but have been given permission.
Now they can still insult Trump.
But they can be like, yeah, pig dick Donald Trump, you know, but I gotta be honest, man.
I got my vote for him because dude like Joe Biden and he's a cadaver, you know what I mean?
joshua smith
They're not going to be able to put Joe Biden up in this in this election.
Something's going to change soon.
libby emmons
What if they give him?
I mean, who would they put up instead?
Everybody hates Kamala.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
And she only has one phrase.
joshua smith
You know who it is?
It's going to be the Antichrist Newsome from California.
phil labonte
There's got to be a way to get around Kamala though.
And Kamala is literally kryptonite to a white male progressive.
What is he going to say?
libby emmons
Really, but she makes absolutely no sense.
phil labonte
It doesn't matter.
It does not matter.
Everyone knows that she is like the worst, absolute worst person the Democrats could possibly field, but at the same time, they can't do anything with her.
They can't attack her.
She's the first woman, She's multiracial.
She is untouchable.
And if you do, she absolutely will turn it on you and call you, you're the racist, you're the blah blah blah.
libby emmons
She will use that at the drop of a hat.
I don't think anybody cares about being called a racist anymore.
joshua smith
Kamala Harris withheld evidence when she worked in San Francisco.
She withheld evidence that kept somebody on death row that she knew was innocent.
libby emmons
There's like a lot of black progressives who hate Kamala Harris because she locked up more black people.
joshua smith
Oh way more blah blah blah. You know, based on like, crap evidence. But she also withheld, withheld, purposely withheld
evidence knowing that somebody was innocent to keep him on death row.
unidentified
None of that matters. And none of that matters to the left at all. I don't even think that she has
libby emmons
the ability to see what can be, never mind being unburdened by what might have been. I
joshua smith
believe it's going to be Newsom, I do, I really believe that he's going to do something crazy. I
phil labonte
just, tell me how they get in, how How do they how do they get her out of the way?
Tell me how they do it and maybe because I don't think that Newsom like I think that Newsom is far more of a threat to not only to the United States, but to the to like Donald Trump into Republicans, but how do you get him into the position to run?
libby emmons
Well, you'd have to get her to resign, but she's power-hungry.
She only had 3% of the vote when she was running on the Democratic ticket, when she was trying to get that ticket.
phil labonte
Like I said, I don't think that Kamala Harris is good, but I just don't see the path to get her into the position.
tim pool
Yeah.
We'll jump to the story from CBS News.
Oh boy.
RFK Jr.
mulls running for president as libertarian as he struggles with ballot access.
phil labonte
Tell him he has to get nude to do it.
tim pool
I will say this.
I have heard some people who are libertarian party members associated with the Mises caucus Nothing from high up, just mutterings from regular folks that this is their big push and they really do want this.
I'm curious, is it true and what's going on?
joshua smith
Yeah, I believe it is.
I believe they do want it.
Whether they want him to get the nomination or not, they definitely want him to jump in and shake up the election.
There's no doubt about it.
I've seen grumblings from several people in the Mises caucus, including my good friend.
I just made a five minute video about this that I put out in public, so it's not like I'm saying anything that I haven't said.
I think that Heiss and Angela, the chair of the Libertarian Party, as well, we've seen her make comments that show support for an RFK Libertarian run.
And the problem is I don't think RFK can get our delegates to vote for him and make him an MP.
tim pool
He's not a Libertarian.
joshua smith
Well, he's terrible on every issue except for one.
I mean, really, he's been… What's the one good issue?
The healthcare freedom stuff.
I mean, the guys… Healthcare freedom.
Yeah, he's a medical malpractice lawyer.
I mean, that's what he does, right?
So, like, he came from, you know, litigating these really high-profile medical malpractice cases, and so, like, of course libertarians are like, yeah, healthcare freedom!
But he's like the Homer Simpson meme with all the fat pinned up behind him, you know, where it's like, and socialist monetary policies, and he's an eco-fascist, and he hates guns, and it's like... And he wants to rename Columbus Day to Indigenous People's Day.
You know, and he said directly, you know, if the House were to bring him a bill banning the Second Amendment, he'd be happy to sign it.
unidentified
He said that.
ian crossland
How did that come out?
unidentified
He publicly has said that.
joshua smith
He's been anti-gum forever.
Listen, this guy's an old school progressive.
I mean, not progressive.
He's an old school Kennedy Democrat.
He's good on a couple of things.
He does hate the deep state.
I don't believe that he knows what the deep state is.
tim pool
When did he say that?
Sign a bill.
joshua smith
I'm trying.
I've seen it a billion times though.
Let's see.
Look up Kennedy.
I'd be happy to sign Second Amendment.
phil labonte
You know, considering the performance that he just had on Dave Smith's podcast.
tim pool
Three months ago.
Vows to respect Second Amendment and not take it.
You know, yada yada.
Gun control cannot meaningfully reduce gun violence.
Comes out against gun control in June.
All of them are basically anti-gun control.
But he is a liberal on them.
I mean, I suppose the issue is, if he said years ago something like that, it's important to bring that up.
joshua smith
Well, he's been saying that stuff for a long time.
tim pool
Right, it's important to bring that up.
And now that he's running and he knows it's not a popular issue with moderates, he's evolving on the issue.
joshua smith
Well, yeah, you know, he's going to say whatever he wants to say to get elected.
But what the problem is, is here, he didn't understand what running as an independent would be like as far as ballot access goes, right?
We're talking $100 million to get ballot access across the country.
As a Libertarian party, we spend $2 million a year fighting for ballot access in like three or four states.
And we are a pretty established party as far as third parties go.
We're the third largest party in the United States.
We're the fastest growing party in the United States.
And he didn't realize like, oh, this ballot access stuff is really, really hard.
And so he could come over and get ballot access with the Libertarians.
But the problem is he doesn't share any of our values at all.
And Libertarians are very staunch about their values.
tim pool
There's one state you guys don't have?
joshua smith
New York.
tim pool
You don't have New York?
joshua smith
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
How?
Why?
joshua smith
Uh, so Larry Sharp actually ran as governor and got the required amount to get us ballot access there, and the legislature went and changed the rules after that and took us off ballot.
unidentified
Wow.
joshua smith
Oh, that's low.
unidentified
Wow.
joshua smith
That's New York.
That's what they do.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
So the Libertarian candidate for president's not going to even be on the ballot in New York?
joshua smith
We can't.
There's a possibility.
It's likely to cost us about $300,000 or more.
ian crossland
That we should raise that money.
joshua smith
We're working.
Larry Sharpe's running a whole campaign to raise money.
tim pool
You need to raise how much?
joshua smith
I think it's like $300,000 or $400,000.
That's a lot of money.
tim pool
But there's also caps on how much you can give, right?
joshua smith
Right, exactly.
tim pool
But it's not to a politician.
It's a political party, though.
joshua smith
Yeah, I think a PAC you can donate a lot more than just to, like, there's 33, like, for a federal campaign right now there's 3,300.
Individual donor cap right now, but I think with a pack and stuff like that Which I think they're working with you can donate a lot more money to them But yeah It's a lot of money and and it's a lot of work and they need petitioners and they have to get out and get like they change the the amount of petition sign that you need to like some ungodly amount so And they don't have a whole hell of a lot of time to get it done.
tim pool
Yeah, so it looks like Let's see there might be the party committee state district and local unlimited And, uh, National Committee, it's unlimited.
joshua smith
Yeah, that makes sense.
If it's our National Committee, you can just... I mean, we had people donate, like, a house and stuff.
tim pool
I mean, you can donate... But I mean, if the Libertarian Party only needs $300,000 to get on ballot access... Not doing great financially right now.
That's actually surprising to me that the Libertarian could not muster.
I mean, how many Bitcoin Kripos have enough money?
joshua smith
Well, here's the thing.
The Libertarian Party's been existing on like $1.7 million a year budget for a decade.
So it's not like it's a ton of money.
ian crossland
Was it bigger before a decade ago?
joshua smith
No.
I think the biggest we ever were were in 2000 when Harry Brown was the candidate.
And he actually doubled the size of the party membership.
I don't know that that meant that we had more money.
tim pool
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
An individual can only give the party $10,000 per year.
joshua smith
$10,000, yeah.
tim pool
Right.
I was reading it wrong.
joshua smith
Yeah, for individuals.
And then PACs can give, like, way more money.
tim pool
Oh, no, no, no.
unidentified
It's $41,300.
tim pool
Sorry.
joshua smith
How many times are you going to read this wrong?
tim pool
Individuals.
joshua smith
I sat on the National Committee for two terms.
tim pool
To the National Party Committee, it's 41,300.
joshua smith
I think it used to be 30, now that I'm thinking of it, I think it used to be like 35, 60, but they've upped the cap on these things.
They did for the presidential election, too.
It used to be like 27 or something.
Now it's 3,300 that an individual can give.
ian crossland
Where do people donate to the party?
joshua smith
LP.org.
ian crossland
How many petitions do you need to get in New York?
joshua smith
I don't know.
I don't know.
Larry Sharp is the man that would know that.
He's running the whole thing.
tim pool
Yeah, I think we've had him on a couple times.
joshua smith
Yeah, Larry's been here, and he's been a Rogan and stuff too.
tim pool
He's running for governor, right?
joshua smith
He did.
He's not running for governor currently, and I've been trying to get him to jump in the race to run for VP, but now Clint has announced that he's running for VP, so that's my guy.
ian crossland
Clint Russell, ladies and gentlemen.
tim pool
Clint Russell is running to be VP for the Libertarian Party?
Who do you think's actually gonna get it?
Well, I mean, you want it.
joshua smith
I want the... No, I'm running for president.
tim pool
Right, that's what I mean.
joshua smith
I mean, I want Clint to be my vice presidential candidate.
tim pool
Okay, right on.
joshua smith
There's no doubt about it.
tim pool
Who do you think's gonna get it?
joshua smith
Right now, there's... It's like kind of a four-way... I shouldn't ask you that way.
Yeah.
I should ask you, who's the frontrunner?
tim pool
Who's the frontrunner?
joshua smith
Yeah, it's me, Chase Oliver, who's kind of like the left-leaning social progressive libertarian, but he has some good policies too, but he's like, That's interesting.
who always talks about LGBTQ rights and stuff like that.
There's also Lars Mapstead, who actually founded Adult Friend Finder.
So he actually helped create this terrible OnlyFans culture that you see in America today.
So he's the loaded candidate. He's got millions of dollars.
And then, of course, Michael Recktenwald, who you've had on the show as well as the main guy.
tim pool
Yeah, that's interesting. I've been asked about Recktenwald a lot
by a lot of people I meet outside, like just out in the streets or whatever,
we're libertarians. They'll be like, oh, what was Recktenwald like?
And I'm just, you know, I don't know.
But I find that interesting.
It seems like he's got the name recognition.
joshua smith
He's, uh, I don't, I mean, I don't see it.
He's only raised, he only raised $20,000 in the last quarter.
So it's not like he's getting, like, a ton of play.
tim pool
What about you?
Have you announced?
joshua smith
A little bit less than that.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
ian crossland
Do you do crowdfunding?
joshua smith
Uh, yeah, I mean, we're raising money at joshuasmith2024.com.
tim pool
Man, it's, it's, it's kind of wild how successful the, uh, Libertarian Party is despite its, like, It's a shoestring budget.
joshua smith
It's a shoestring budget.
unidentified
Yeah.
joshua smith
And they put it together and worked really hard.
And it is the fastest growing party in the country.
And I think that, you know, we're not going to win the presidency in 2024.
I talk about that all the time.
tim pool
Not with that attitude.
joshua smith
No, but anybody, any libertarian candidate is like, we're going to win the presidency in 2024 is just lying to themselves, really.
tim pool
I mean, but we do have the opportunity to, you know, With RFK Jr., though, he gets you past a certain threshold.
joshua smith
We talk a lot about this 5% threshold, which I actually found out means minor party status.
It's like 15% to get into the debates.
Of course, if we poll at 15 in any of the major polls, they have to put us on the debate stage.
That's what I want.
That's my biggest goal.
libby emmons
And that would be like in the general?
joshua smith
Just polling to the general, not even in the general election.
So if we polled at 15%, there's a requirement for the debate commission.
To allow that party to debate.
So we would get on the stage with, you know, whether it's Trump or Biden or Trump or Newsome, you'd have a libertarian up there saying, all right, these things.
tim pool
That would be RFK Jr.
joshua smith
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
An RFK Jr.
Dave Smith VP ticket.
Would you be VP for RFK Jr.?
libby emmons
No.
joshua smith
I'm not going to do it.
It would be too much of a conflict for me.
tim pool
See, here's the issue I see with it.
If the idea is you know you're not going to win, why wouldn't you just take an RFK Jr.
candidacy and just get the numbers?
joshua smith
Because then we fool everybody about what the Libertarian Party is about.
We saw this with Gary Johnson and Bill Weld.
Bill Weld sat on the board of CFR, right?
I mean, this guy was terrible on nuclear energy.
He was terrible on all kinds of stuff that Libertarians support.
And so him and Gary Johnson went out and they talked about, well, there should be some minor restrictions on the two way.
And Hillary Clinton's really a great service, public service and this and that.
And so we got this like huge influx of membership for Gary Johnson that all ended up being like the left leftist, like social progressive libertarians.
And once they realized that, hey, that's not really what the party stood for, they left.
phil labonte
The social progressive libertarians probably have the worst to offer, because they're just the Democrats with no freebies.
unidentified
They're the Democrats who like guns.
phil labonte
You can get guns out of them and they're going to end all your entitlements.
tim pool
Respect my pronouns.
No welfare.
phil labonte
Yeah, exactly.
It's all of the bad things about the Democrats, but you get guns and you get, you know, a bunch of freebies.
joshua smith
Well, and the problem is that these guys are like, well, we want to, you know, and Jacob Hornberger, who is running but has totally destroyed his campaign, talks about this all the time.
Like, those guys just want to like, oh, well, Social Security, we just want to make a little cut here and the tax, you know, we want a fair tax and we want to do that.
It's not like they're not looking to try and roll back these systems.
They're looking to like take little cuts out and that's not good for us either because
then people show up and they're like, oh man, you guys want to, you guys are like two way
absolutists and you want to get rid of social security for the younger generations and everybody's
like, well, what's going on here?
You know?
And so it's, it's bad for the party to have somebody like RFK in my opinion, but to the,
to the, to the upper brass on the LNC and some of these people, of course they want
it because they want the money.
They want the donor list.
tim pool
RFK might have no choice.
phil labonte
He's horrible.
joshua smith
Well, and he may not get on the ballot.
He's not going to be on the ballot in probably 35 states.
tim pool
If he really does, I mean, it's crazy how the Democrats just nuked his campaign.
joshua smith
Well, they had to.
They also, you know, may have shot his uncle.
ian crossland
You think he was going to win?
And his dad.
joshua smith
And his dad, too!
tim pool
I was gonna say, like his uncle.
joshua smith
So he should be happy all they did was nuke his campaign, really, but no, it's the truth.
They may have shot his dad.
tim pool
And his uncle.
joshua smith
Yeah, the truth is that he's probably, as an independent, he's not gonna be on the ballot in like 30-something states, and he doesn't have the kind of money to buy the ballot access.
ian crossland
But if he's libertarian, he automatically gets all the ballot access.
joshua smith
Any ballot access that we have as a party, if he gets the nomination in May, he automatically gets our ballot access.
ian crossland
Which is everything but New York at the moment.
joshua smith
I think there's one other state that we're working on, but we're going to get it.
I knew we were working on Maine, but we've got Maine now.
We hit the threshold.
ian crossland
I feel like he'd come in, raise a bunch of money, get it on this ballot in every state, get 8 to 15% of the vote.
I mean, he's really popular.
tim pool
Yeah.
joshua smith
Everyone leaves the party the next year.
tim pool
I don't think the people who are in the Libertarian Party are morons.
joshua smith
You're giving the Libertarian Party a lot of credit.
tim pool
I'm talking about the Mises Caucus.
If you've got social progressives, weirdo libertarians, your party's fractured and busted up.
joshua smith
We've gotten rid of a lot of them.
A lot of them have left.
tim pool
Basically, if the Mises Caucus has taken over, And everyone kind of gets it.
And at the convention, everyone's like, look, this is not a representation of true libertarian values, but it is an alliance between an independent and a third party that are trying to sh- Democrat, he's a Democrat.
joshua smith
Even though he's not a Democrat, he's a Democrat.
tim pool
But you gotta, you gotta, you gotta, come on, you gotta compromise a little bit.
unidentified
It sucks.
tim pool
He's an independent, running right now, who's shut out from the mainstream, who has an opportunity to team up with third party, and both are trying to smash through the front gates of the establishment.
joshua smith
Sure.
tim pool
So, I see, I understand, you might say, he's bad, but if we combine, you know, with our powers combined, we're on the debate stage.
joshua smith
In your third party, Tim, whatever third party, this non-existent third party that I'm making up currently that you run, Hillary Clinton comes to you.
tim pool
No, Hillary Clinton's the establishment with all the power, and she's in position.
joshua smith
Sure, but your party needs money, you need donors, you guys have to compromise.
tim pool
Wrong analogy.
It's the same policies.
unidentified
It's the same policies though.
tim pool
RFK is not Hillary Clinton, come on.
joshua smith
Same policies.
I mean the policies are almost indiscernible.
He's an eco-fascist, he wants to shut down businesses that refuse to go to war.
tim pool
He wants to go to war with Russia?
joshua smith
Well, he wants to go to war in the Middle East, for sure.
tim pool
RFK Jr.
wants to go to war.
joshua smith
He's been talking about it.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
joshua smith
Look it up.
unidentified
Let's pull it up.
joshua smith
He's changed his stance on the warfare stuff so much over the last six months, especially since October 7th, right?
Like, big time, big time.
So, yeah, man, I mean, he's not great on these things anymore.
ian crossland
Ecofascism is pretty easy to turn people on if you make them aware of being able to reuse the carbon.
It's so reusable.
joshua smith
This guy has specifically said he wants businesses shut down that don't go along with the climate agenda.
ian crossland
He's bad on everything.
tim pool
He's bad on everything. He's saying that we should withdraw from the Middle East to come back to America to start
working on America.
joshua smith
What date is that?
tim pool
His website right now.
joshua smith
Okay, that's not what he's been saying in the media though.
tim pool
Well, look, my point is simply this.
Like, it is not fair to compare RFK Jr. to Hillary, despite the fact we can agree that RFK Jr. has bad policies
across the board.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Hillary Clinton is a...
joshua smith
I'm trying to think that's anybody else.
phil labonte
Hillary Clinton is literally voting for the bureaucracy.
joshua smith
The problem is that this person holds none of our values.
phil labonte
No.
joshua smith
Right?
And so we're going to put him in... Cenk Uygur!
No, absolutely not.
tim pool
If I had a political party, and Cenk Uygur came to me and said, look, you've got a lot of people who are behind you when we get the poll numbers.
I've got a lot of people behind me.
If we came together and everyone who was between the two of us knew the point of this was to just drive a car straight through those front gates, and this means y'all are on the debate stage next year, I would say yes.
I actually said, if it came down to Mitt Romney versus Hillary Clinton, and Cenk Uygur was there, I'd vote for Cenk.
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
At least he'll pardon Julian Assange, I guess.
What am I supposed to expect with the two of the Uniparty establishment?
I'm not saying I like his policies at all.
I think the dude's actually fairly crazy.
And he's not an American citizen.
My point is simply, look man, people come to me and they say, Trump did this bad thing and this bad thing, and I'm sitting here just whistling and being like, no, no worse.
And they're like, yeah, but what about this bad thing and this bad thing?
And I'm like, yo, this country has been riddled with such bad things from bad people for so long.
And then I'll tell you this.
If somebody comes to me and they're like, I'm running for office.
And what are you going to do?
I'm going to, I'm going to clean up the streets.
I'm going to clean up crime.
I'm going to restore America, make it really, really great.
I'll be like, that sounds pretty good.
What else are you going to do?
I'm going to go bomb foreign countries.
Sorry.
Have a nice day.
I'm not voting for you.
You can, you can talk about securing the board.
You can talk about bringing jobs back.
And then you say, but we got to intervene in the Middle East.
And I say, I'm out.
Because I know what that leads to in terms of inflation, what it leads to in terms of death, blowback, conflict, crisis, all of this stuff, and I've witnessed some of it.
You get Donald Trump, he could literally come out and be like, I don't care about anything domestically, I don't care about any American, I don't care about you, I only care about me, but I won't go to war.
I'll be like, okay, I'll take it.
ian crossland
Military command, man, that's their number one job.
tim pool
So when I get these people saying to me, like this guy the other day, and he's saying all this stuff about how bad Trump is, and he's a liar, and I love it.
He said, every business Trump has ever had has gone bankrupt.
And I'm just like, well, that's just literally not true.
But I'm like, I don't care.
I don't care if the dude was in an alley slinging dope.
I'm like, no new wars!
You know, let's deal with our problems internally, and we'll have to.
So long story short, If... And I understand your position, I'm not telling you you're wrong, I'm saying like, for me, I see the point where it's like...
I see RFK Jr.
as a guy who's wrong, but I see him as a good dude.
He's just wrong.
Marianne Williamson is a good person.
She's just wrong.
And if we could team up and fundamentally change the two-party environment we've had for generations, I mean, that is a grand slam.
joshua smith
Sure.
Well, then, listen, great with Robert Kennedy, but why not any other libertarian candidates, right?
Like, you have a giant platform, right, and other people have big platforms, and you're all sick of the wars.
tim pool
Who's polling at his numbers?
joshua smith
They could be.
Anybody could be if they got the visibility that he's had, right?
tim pool
And this is the point.
ian crossland
He's a Kennedy.
tim pool
He's a Kennedy.
joshua smith
Yeah, but he's got visibility.
People know who he is, right?
tim pool
He's got the name recognition.
He's got the visibility.
And so this is the point.
The Libertarian Party needs a boost.
Here's a guy who was booted from the Democratic Party and cold-shouldered trying to court independents.
I'm not saying the Libertarian Party should bring him on.
I'm saying I see the case for, let's fund the mental health change system.
joshua smith
Oh sure, I see the case too.
I understand the case.
I think the case is wrong.
And I don't think the delegates are going to put him in that place.
tim pool
And I agree with that on that.
I don't want to tell Libertarians they should vote for him.
ian crossland
Compromise though, it's a big part of politics, is compromising.
With the enemy.
tim pool
Have you ever met a Libertarian?
ian crossland
It's gotten us to be the most powerful country on earth.
phil labonte
Have you ever met a Libertarian?
Have you ever met a Libertarian and spoken to them?
Compromise?
Libertarians are known for their purity tests.
If you accept the existence of the post office, you will be excommunicated from the Libertarian party.
ian crossland
Do not test them, Ian!
phil labonte
Do not test them!
tim pool
Can we just real quick?
joshua smith
We should say that compromise has gotten us to where we are today.
ian crossland
Well, the United States...
tim pool
Can we just show Ian this meme?
ian crossland
The compromise of all 50 states.
tim pool
So this is a meme from the Simpsons, and it's Edna, Krabappel, Skinner, and Willie.
And he says, brothers and sisters are natural enemies, like progressives and libertarians, or communists and
libertarians, or ANCAPs and libertarians, or libertarians and other
libertarians.
They ruined... Damn libertarians, they ruined libertarianism.
And then Skinner says, you libertarians sure are a contentious people.
You've just made an enemy for life.
phil labonte
That's libertarianism.
joshua smith
Pretty much it, yeah.
That's how it is.
Nobody hates libertarians more than other libertarians.
ian crossland
That's right.
joshua smith
It's the very truth of our existence.
tim pool
I just love that story about when they asked about whether or not
you should be able to sell heroin to children.
And I think was it Gary Johnson said no, and they booed him?
unidentified
Yeah.
joshua smith
Yeah, that was so that was in 2016 they when they had this this huge caucus in the party called the audacious caucus and they were like all super like offensive Not even in caps like leftists really and and so, you know, the party's changed a lot We got we got rid of the the abortion plank.
They kicked that out.
So there's no more like room for Error there and then you got guys like me who are running who I consider myself in America first populous libertarian candidate, right?
Like I don't I don't believe in open borders.
I don't believe an abortion.
I know that I know that we've had this debate on the show several times, but I don't believe that you should be able to sell heroin to five-year-olds.
I don't believe that doctors should be able to force push kids towards like mutilative surgeries and stuff like that.
I think they should be prosecuted.
But I also believe that the Federal Reserve has destroyed the economy and the Warfare State has done nothing good for any Americans and These entitlement programs are destroying us and, you know, so... Was it Austin Peterson who said it?
Yeah, it was Austin Peterson.
tim pool
Okay, wait.
I just googled it.
C-SPAN's got the clip.
unidentified
Of course it did.
austin petersen
China has no constitutional authority to regulate drugs.
That being said, at the state level, I would support some legislation that would stop children from being allowed to purchase drugs and prosecute anyone who would put a child in danger because I do believe that children do need some protection.
Yes, you should not be able to sell heroin to a five-year-old.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
joshua smith
In my opinion, Austin was by far the best candidate that year, too.
He was close.
It wasn't far off in the vote.
ian crossland
I think you need compromise.
It's politics.
I'm an idealist in my soul, but in reality, I'm more of a compromist.
I'm down to do things I don't want to do to get by.
unidentified
We're past that, bro.
tim pool
And so, you know, I was talking to this guy the other day.
He said that the Libertarian Party isn't libertarian enough.
And I was like, well, what, what do you mean?
I was like, it's Austin Peterson got booed when he said, you know, he'd prosecute people selling heroin to kids.
And he was like, and he looks at me and he goes, abortion.
And I was like, yeah, I think the Mises Caucus are fairly pro-life, right?
Is that true, Josh?
joshua smith
The Mises Caucus?
Yeah.
I think there's a bit of a split there, but for the most part, it's pro-life.
Like Davis.
Yeah, and I'm pro-life, and I think Keis is probably pro-life, and a lot of these people.
But there are still some people who, you know, think there's a good faith effort on both sides of the debate, and this and that.
unidentified
You say good faith debate.
Go ahead.
tim pool
I would say that I am not in the pro-life camp, but I certainly do not believe there's a good faith debate with the left on abortion.
libby emmons
I think there's not a good faith debate in a lot of areas, yeah.
tim pool
There's a good faith debate with people like me and people like you, or, you know, I really think it was a great conversation I had with Glenn Beck on the issue, which I've probably evolved quite a bit on it since then, probably moved a little bit further to the right on it a great deal, because I have a libertarian stance on the issue of the 14th Amendment.
And my position on abortion is actually just libertarian.
At what point does the government have the right to determine someone must provide their body to someone else?
And I, you know, I don't want to get into an abortion debate.
joshua smith
But my point is... Yeah, we did this for like, on the after show for like an hour or so.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't want to get into it.
But my point is like, that's where the real debate is.
Where we actually are genuinely like, what's the constitutional limitations?
What can the government do?
And then you have the left that they're just like, we just want to kill babies.
joshua smith
Yeah, it's bad.
It's gross.
It's like they're basically sacrificing their own children to Moloch, dude.
That's really what it is.
I can't put it any other way.
tim pool
It is a self-correcting problem.
joshua smith
Yeah, I know.
And I have a lot of friends on the right that say, let your enemies do what they need to do.
You know what I mean?
tim pool
Don't interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake.
joshua smith
So there's a religious argument for me, but there's also, I think, the libertarian argument.
tim pool
Anyway, the point I was making to Euan is that compromise made sense in the 90s when Democrats and Republicans overlapped on almost everything except, how much taxes should people pay and should it be this high for this bracket or this low?
And, you know, how strong should the border be?
Now the issues are like, sanctuary states should be able to, people should be able to kidnap your children and bring them to a sanctuary state where they can get a forced exchange.
Like, I don't see a compromise there!
joshua smith
And an abortion at the same time.
ian crossland
More compromise just to get the LP on the ticket.
tim pool
That I get.
joshua smith
I found the Reason article with RFK talking about the gunman.
So it's called RFK Jr.
The Reason Interview, and it's an actual interview.
And he says, I love Tulsi Gabbard because she understands the importance of disentangling or unraveling the empire and unraveling the war machine.
So that's good.
But on banning assault weapons, he said... Wait, wait, wait.
tim pool
I want to pull it up.
joshua smith
Yeah, just look up RFK Jr.
The Reason Interview.
tim pool
Okay, let me pull up the quote.
joshua smith
Yeah, but there's another quote here where he says, I'm not going to take away anybody's guns, but if a bipartisan bill to do so passed Congress, I'd sign it.
ian crossland
Right.
tim pool
And assault weapons doesn't mean anything anyway.
joshua smith
Yeah, I mean, it's such a vague... But that's actually correct.
unidentified
We've long known that he's an anti-gun guy.
libby emmons
You should sign off on something that people want.
joshua smith
As president, I would never sign a bill that was unconstitutional.
libby emmons
Not something that's anti-constitutional, but I mean, I do think that it makes sense to say, you know, if this is what the people want, you should do this.
unidentified
Nope.
joshua smith
Veto stamp.
libby emmons
Not an unconstitutional thing.
Nope.
You're missing my point.
tim pool
I hear your point.
The border security bill, bipartisan, does not mean the will of the people.
It means the corporate establishment paid off a bunch of crackpots or insider trading at the time.
I do want to quote-unquote border security bill right now is quote-unquote bipartisan.
libby emmons
Well it's not really bipartisan though.
tim pool
Republicans in the Senate did help them draft it.
unidentified
My buddy Chris Hansen who sent me the article from Iowa, I appreciate you sending it.
phil labonte
The president doesn't have any constitutional leniency when it comes to the border.
No, he should not.
He's charged with, this is your job.
libby emmons
With not allowing an invasion.
phil labonte
Yeah, this is your job.
tim pool
The point of the presidency is quite literally that if there is a bad bill that's bipartisan, he vetoes it.
phil labonte
He has to veto it.
Fair enough.
But again, we're talking about this bill as if it's legitimate.
As if the concept of needing this bill is legitimate.
And it's not.
joshua smith
No, it never was.
phil labonte
It's entirely illegitimate.
This is a distraction.
joshua smith
Well, it depends on how you look at it, Phil.
phil labonte
The fact that we've spent, you know, that you're spending so much effort and energy discussing this when the president has every bit of authority that he needs currently in the Constitution to defend the border, take care of all the problems we have at the border.
The president has all the authority he needs.
This is literally just extorting the American people so that way they can get money to launder in Ukraine and give money to Israel to defend their own country.
joshua smith
How are they laundering money without Sam Bankman Freed?
unidentified
I don't understand.
joshua smith
They don't have their chief money launderer anymore.
tim pool
It's actually crazy.
I actually met a lawyer for his family.
joshua smith
Really?
tim pool
I mean, look, I gotta tell you, I tell these stories about National Harbor, D.C., and this is where all these people are hanging out.
You want to meet the high-powered lobby?
I gotta tell you, man, this casino is apparently the highest grossing casino in the country.
I can't even, I don't, there's just like 20,000 people downstairs at the tables, and they're probably all millionaires, and I cannot fathom.
I saw a guy sitting at a table with like 20 grand just playing away, and I'm just like, this is nuts!
You go to the poker room, they had a, I guess it was, I don't know if you guys know anything about it, 2550 was on the list, but apparently it was even bigger than that.
Long story short, what does that mean?
It means everybody who played had to bring $100,000.
So you have basically one or more.
That's the minimum.
libby emmons
That's crazy.
tim pool
And so these are people with a million dollars on the table.
I was not playing anywhere near that level.
I was playing 2-5.
And I met a guy who was a lawyer who was talking about how he's actually a lawyer for their family.
And, you know, he didn't go into any classified details, but it was interesting to hear the perspective he had on what was going on.
ian crossland
Did they drop the charges on that guy?
tim pool
I mean, it just seems like...
It's all dirty.
ian crossland
Yeah, I read that they dropped some charges.
joshua smith
Yeah, a bunch of the charges got dropped.
libby emmons
They dropped some charges, but not all.
joshua smith
Yeah, they can't really put him in jail when he was the one laundering their money.
tim pool
I gotta say this.
I gotta say this right now.
I gotta say this right now.
If you're a journalist, you're trying to figure out how to get started in journalism.
I got a tip for you guys.
Because people often ask, what can I do to get started?
And everyone always says, buy a cell phone and go to the border.
I got a better one for you.
serge du preez
You don't tell them stories though, that's a good idea.
tim pool
Go to the poker room at MGM National Harbor.
serge du preez
Yo.
tim pool
It is, it, no I'm not kidding.
The people I have met there, it is wild.
I mean, first of all, I was hanging out with a guy who was a Mises Caucus guy the other day,
and he knew who I was, and he was like, oh, and we're talking about normal stuff.
But then you meet a guy who's a lawyer for the Bankman Freed family.
And I'm like, tell me more, good sir.
If you want to get into journalism, Or I mean post-millennial should just have a...
I might do this.
joshua smith
I don't know, I'm just trying to sit at a table.
tim pool
No, no, no, I'm saying hire somebody.
Maybe we'll have SCNR hire someone literally just to play 1-3 and keep an ear open.
But really, if you want the big shots, it's 2-5 or 5-10.
Those are very expensive games and it's hard.
But the things you overhear there, and the things people are talking about, because these are people in DC who have a lot of money.
If they're playing 5-10, that means they spent between $600 and $2,500 to play that game.
And I gotta tell you, these guys, they play more than that.
So you have to wonder what job they have in the DC area.
And it's not a construction worker.
No, you're gonna find lobbyists and lawyers, and they love to talk.
You can't film here, though.
Some casinos do allow it, but if you're in MGM National Harbor, it does not.
And probably because...
These guys are going to be high-powered lawyers, delegates, political staffers, people who are doing things maybe they shouldn't be doing, but you'll hear those opinions.
I'm willing to bet you will find a ton of stories if you just play the game and ask, like, oh, really?
Like, what do you do?
What is that like?
Oh, is it true what they said about that guy?
You're going to get scoops galore.
Because these dudes hang at the table, they're bored all day, they're there for six hours or more.
joshua smith
They're probably drinking.
tim pool
Some of them, a lot of them are drinking, and the server's coming around offering drinks.
Actually, but if you go on Saturday night, I'm willing to bet that's a good spot for a journalist to hang out.
Poker room at MGM National Harbor.
Now all the DC politicians are going like this.
joshua smith
All the ones you've had on the show are like, thanks!
Thanks a lot!
tim pool
Well, I was saying before, I think this is where they actually launder money.
So, when I played this past week, yesterday, when I was cashing out, they had like a supervisor come over and track the cash out, write down my name, write down the table I was on, the game that was played, how much money was played, how long I was there, and then thanked me for my business.
And I'm like, I wonder if that has to do with money laundering.
unidentified
That's wild.
tim pool
Yeah, because we talked about it before.
If you want to launder money, if you're... I was actually talking to some some dude there about it.
And he was like, nah, you don't need to go to a poker room for that.
Just bring up a briefcase.
And I'm like, how do you how do you report your taxes?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
I came into 20 grand.
It's really easy.
You got a proxy, a guy who works for your company or just someone you know who you want to have the money.
And then you've got a guy who's going to make the donation.
And they play a hand of poker, and then the guy goes, oh, jeez, I'm gonna bet $20,000.
Ah, you beat me.
joshua smith
Right.
tim pool
And there's no record of what cards you had.
You just muck them, so you don't even know if it was a con game.
All you see on camera is two guys played a game of poker and one guy won $20,000.
Now he reports it on his taxes.
Clean as a whistle.
Right.
And we know what that money's really for.
joshua smith
I've seen Ozarks.
unidentified
Yeah.
joshua smith
I've seen the movie.
I've seen the show.
That's what they did the show, right?
I mean, that was the big thing.
unidentified
I haven't seen Ozarks.
joshua smith
Yeah, they opened a casino so they could launder cartel money.
I mean, that was the whole thing about the show.
tim pool
The poker room is especially interesting.
You sit down with your cash, and then you say, I'm gonna bet 10 grand, and the other guy says, I call, and then you go, ah, he got me.
So let me explain this.
Let's say, it can work really simple.
Anybody who plays poker knows how you could do this, but for those that understand, you don't need to show your cards.
If I've got the best possible hand, let's say I get a royal flush.
I have the best hand, but I want Phil to be given money.
Phil could have the worst possible hand.
Or he could have a hand and then when I bet all my money and he calls my bet and flips over a mediocre hand, all I have to do is say he got me and then put my cards face down in what's called the muck.
No one will ever see what I had.
Which means I can choose to lose without any proof that I actually won.
ian crossland
I wonder if casinos in the future are going to change it so your cards are... Always tracked.
joshua smith
Yeah.
They could.
I mean, they can record it.
tim pool
Yeah, we have an RFID table.
They could track it.
joshua smith
I mean, they make the poker hand cameras, too, for the big poker hand and stuff.
But you have to show those.
tim pool
Now they do RFID, where you've got it on the table, you get the cards, and you rub them.
You don't have to, but you try to get them to move so it reads, and then the computer gets all the information.
I don't think they're going to spend $20,000 on an RFID table at any casino.
ian crossland
And they're not going to intentionally expose people that are trading money under the table.
libby emmons
Yeah, they're not interested in exposing money laundering.
They have no reason to stop that.
tim pool
I am not suggesting National Harbor does this or is in any way knowledgeable of anything that's going on.
serge du preez
Good to caveat that.
tim pool
Yeah, I think it's a fine establishment.
Dude, I gotta tell you, man.
I've been to a lot of casinos, okay, and a lot of people have, but you go to MGM National Harbor, and I do not understand how these people are there.
I don't get it.
You want to play one hand of, like, Ultimate Hold'em.
It's basically, it's like a blackjack, but it's a different table game called Carnival Games.
It's gonna cost you, let's see, it's $50, $50, $50, $150, and then to play is another, so $200 to see one hand.
And if you want to raise your bet because you got a good hand, you're putting another $150 on top.
How is anyone playing there?
I do not understand.
ian crossland
There's gotta be people, well I don't know, speculation, they're like, from a foreign government, they're like, go to D.C., get the job done, and give that city a million bucks while you're there.
Take this ten million with you.
tim pool
It's Maryland, it's not D.C.
National Harbor is a Maryland, yeah.
ian crossland
How far from D.C.
is it?
tim pool
A couple miles.
ian crossland
So it's like a hotspot, a D.C.
hotspot, but it's out of D.C.?
tim pool
So this is the thing, I'm like, I really just think maybe it's, There's a lot of big money coming through D.C.
ian crossland
Yeah, there's no gambling in D.C., right?
tim pool
No, but National Harbor's Maryland, and it's just south of D.C., and I'm like, maybe D.C.
is more powerful.
It's not listed in one of the top cities for millionaires.
It's actually nowhere near it, but there's a lot of money running through there, and I'm seeing... There's a lot of diplomats, too.
libby emmons
Diplomats have a lot of money.
tim pool
That must be it, but I'm like, I'm seeing what looks like some working-class dude pulling $25 slot levers, and I'm just like...
This is the craziest place I've ever been.
libby emmons
There's also people ruining their lives with gambling.
I mean, you can't take that out of the equation.
tim pool
Sure, but... I don't know, man.
unidentified
You go to, like, Maryland Live, or... Gambling's like heroin to some people, man.
joshua smith
It really is bad.
It is a bad addiction.
tim pool
Yeah, I get it, but, like... I mean, look, if someone's making, like, 80k a year, they get their one paycheck for the weekend, they're gonna be there for five minutes.
joshua smith
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't... I don't believe that.
ian crossland
Like where all that big money is coming from?
tim pool
I mean, maybe it's just the reality that DC's got a lot of secret millionaires and a lot of money flying through and
phil labonte
people are Gonna go to the casino. I think seven of the top ten
richest counties are the counties that surround the DC area I don't know about that many but I think one of them like
unidentified
one of them high like Fairfax is really rich Yeah, I don't think it's seven of ten
tim pool
I look I look I was looking this up to try and figure it out and it's like California has the whole Chevy chase
joshua smith
So Marin County is one of the richest counties in the entire country. I know that that's the right across the
Golden Gate Bridge There are a lot of gambling there
No.
Not at all.
It's Sausalito.
It's all Bay Territory.
phil labonte
It's Loudoun County Falls Church, Santa Clara, San Mateo, Fairfax, Howard, which is in Maryland, Arlington, Virginia, Marin County, which is in California, Douglas County.
So yeah, I mean, it's not the seven, but it's got, let's see, one, two, Three, four, five of the top ten.
So you're effectively right.
joshua smith
Fun fact, the Golden Gate Bridge is still privately owned by a secret group of people.
unidentified
What?
Is that right?
libby emmons
The Golden Gate Bridge is owned by a secret group of people?
joshua smith
I don't know if that's still the truth, but that was the truth for many, many, many, many years.
It was like a secret, secret group of people in Marin County that actually owned the bridge.
serge du preez
Oh, in Marin County, you don't say.
joshua smith
Yeah, of course.
tim pool
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And before we read Super Chats, I do want to give a shout-out to our good friend Taylor Lorenz for one of the nicest things she could have possibly said in relation to my work.
I was deeply moved.
I saw an interview she did where she said Tim Pool is dishonest.
Which shocked me until she explained in greater detail what she meant.
She said, Tim Pool does not do journalism.
He comments on other people's work and he is dishonest.
And I went, oh, she's saying the news that I am reading from the New York Times and from the Wall Street Journal is fake.
joshua smith
Based.
unidentified
I like it.
I support it.
tim pool
But that's the gist of what she said!
joshua smith
Isn't that what most podcasts do?
We look up current events and then comment on current events?
ian crossland
But sometimes when you say something someone disagrees with, they'll call you dishonest, but you just don't agree.
Doesn't mean you're not lying.
tim pool
She literally says in the interview, Tim Poole does nothing original, he just comments on other people's news, and he's dishonest.
But if I'm commenting on news, what's dishonest?
It's not my opinion on the news, right?
Because an opinion isn't a fact-based question.
So, she's saying the news is fake.
joshua smith
She said the quiet part out loud.
tim pool
She did.
I appreciate it.
We're gonna raid superchats.
Alright, Stephen says, second, hello Josh, in fact, good sir, you are first.
ian crossland
Stephen.
There you go.
tim pool
Shane H. Wilder says the Alaskan National Guard will probably be deployed in the summer so they can pass out on the Texas heat in a Napoleon invasion of Russia scenario.
Well, it may be early next year, we don't know exactly when.
The point is, why are you going to announce this?
I mean, this is a bad idea.
ian crossland
Yeah, this is like a virtue signal.
tim pool
And they haven't done it in five years.
joshua smith
At the very least, it was just really dumb timing.
tim pool
Raybert G. Standbert Jr.
says, Tim, did you see Bill Maher prove his incompetence once again with PBD on his show when talking about Gavin Newsom for president?
It was painful.
I do not agree with the general assessment of his performance.
What happened is Bill Maher said, Gavin Newsom is a winner, I don't understand why we can't have him.
Patrick Bette David said, are you a results-based guy?
PBD, he's so good at what he does with his interviews.
And Bill's like, what do you mean?
Well, results, you're saying like, he's a winner, so what did he do to win?
And Bill says, no, he wins elections.
Then PBD says, Patrick Bette David, by the way, value attainment, says, what did he do that was good for California?
And Bill says, he made it rain, I don't care.
He's like, there's bad things about California.
I don't like everything he does.
I don't actually see this as a gotcha moment, as a lot of people do, because Bill Maher was not trying to make the point that Gavin Newsom's policies are good.
He was trying to make the point this guy is capable of winning an election against Trump and Biden is not.
And that is a true and correct point we should be concerned about if they try to swap Biden out for Gavin Newsom.
However, I do give some brownie points to, come on, Bill.
Don't cheer for a guy.
You can't complain about Trump for being bad, and then say, I have no idea what the other guy's done.
But, like, he's like, not everything Gavin Newsom's done is good.
I mean, there's bad things, of course.
What has he done that's good?
I don't know.
Okay, well, now you're talking about Gavin Newsom is a winner, can win an election, and he's kind of bad, but Trump is very bad.
Okay, whatever, I get it.
It's probably a reason why Bill Maher does not want to come on this show.
I mean, to be fair, he's like a super rich old guy who's like, doesn't want to go on anyone's shows.
phil labonte
Also because you won't let him smoke weed in here, so.
tim pool
We offered to go out there and try and work something out.
They said no.
phil labonte
Oh, really?
tim pool
Yeah, and I will not go on real time.
I would never.
I can't stand that.
It's so silly.
Like, it's just WWE.
joshua smith
It's not your format, man.
tim pool
I mean, I could easily, it's just like, sit there for, you know, speak for 10 minutes and then you're done and then argue with some guy who's going to say stupid things and get a rise out of the audience.
It's just, but Club Random, we tried, we're like, hey, we'll go to LA.
We'll set up our show for a week and then we'll come on the show.
unidentified
And they're like, well, you know, can't do it.
tim pool
Whatever, he doesn't owe me anything.
All right, let's grab some more.
Mr. Battalion says, Tim, have you thought that AK is betting on DT winning 24 since the deployment isn't until 25?
Exactly.
All these moves that are being made are to create crises under Donald Trump's presidency.
They're not going to be able to Russiagate him again.
So what can they do?
This bill will give the federal government all of these powers, and it's locked in, and if Trump wants to change it, it goes to D.C.
federal court.
That was the key you guys pointed out.
joshua smith
I was glad I found that.
I've seen a couple people share it now, but it's not.
It's not making the rounds like it should be, because that's probably the crux of that bill.
Besides the war funds, that is the biggest part of that bill.
tim pool
And then what happens even if Congress tries to change it?
Will it also have to go to a D.C.
joshua smith
court?
It's what it sounds like to me.
I mean, like I said, I'm not a legalese guy, but it sounds to me like everything pertaining to this issue from now on will have to go through the D.C.
District Court.
tim pool
I think Congress would be able to override it themselves without court, but Trump won't.
What's going to happen is Trump will get elected and he'll be like, we're going to shut it down.
We're going to lock Wrap the borders and then immediately Democrats will file suit and say the bill, the law of this land says we have to go to D.C.
court where they will immediately say Trump loses.
joshua smith
Even if he gets elected he's only going to have four years.
They're going to wrap it up in court for two.
Immediately.
Minimum two years in the D.C.
district courts.
serge du preez
People forget that you may win the case but it's going to take so long for it to get done it's effectively useless.
joshua smith
Especially in the D.C.
district court.
They're going to keep pushing it back, pushing it back.
All these other things are going to take precedence.
It's going to be bad.
tim pool
Let's read this one, this one's good.
Quan Xin says, Xin, want to clarify something you said last Friday.
In Singapore, you can't get caned for littering.
You can get caned for illegal entry or overstaying your permit for 90 days.
That might help with U.S.
immigration issues.
I'm not in favor of caning, but I do believe that atypical punishment that is not cruel and unusual Well, I don't know, atypical and unusual, I don't know what unusual means, but I do think there could be forms of penance that would actually be substantially more effective than torture or locking someone up with their gang.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's not, you could do cruel or, it's not cruel or unusual, it's cruel and unusual punishment is not allowed, but if it's not cruel, it can still be unusual.
tim pool
Oh, good point.
And if it's not unusual, it can still be cruel.
Like putting people in prison where they get raped.
ian crossland
Wow, it shouldn't be, but I think the point is cruelty is unusual.
joshua smith
Listen, what happens to pedophiles?
I don't care.
unidentified
They can go to prison and get raped for all I care.
tim pool
We could use some unusual... I agree with the atypical or unusual.
We talked about this.
I guarantee you, if I was given, like, you are the Supreme Chancellor, how will you end crime in Chicago?
I would say, When you are caught for violent offenses, we will make you wear a diaper and crawl around in a public park surrounded by everyone with their cell phone cameras filming you.
And you have to say, gobby gooby, gobby gooby for two hours.
ian crossland
If you made them do it in their living room, that would be unusual.
libby emmons
I like it in the park.
tim pool
Hold on, hold on.
Here's my question about the definition of cruel.
I'm talking about violent criminal offenders who are caught.
Convicted in a court of law and their punishment is to be to be mocked in public.
serge du preez
Humiliated.
tim pool
I think cruel needs, like, torture is cruel.
Solitary confinement is cruel.
These things cause tremendous, like, lifelong traumas and physical disabilities.
You getting made fun of for an hour or so is a, like, I gotta tell you.
In Chicago, these guys are gonna be like, ain't no way, I'm getting caught dude.
Because they're gonna put you in a diaper and make you, you gotta hop like a bunny down Michigan Avenue, and everyone gets to film you.
And that's forever.
You're not going to go to jail, but that will be who you are, and they'll be like, I don't want to be that.
joshua smith
I like the diaper idea.
ian crossland
I like the public humiliation aspect.
libby emmons
Public humiliation was big in the Puritan days, wasn't it?
You had like the stocks and stuff, they'd put you out in public, or Hester Prynne with her A, that was humiliating.
joshua smith
And people would throw tomatoes and stuff.
libby emmons
Or the lady who, I forget what her crime was, but her sentence was to work at a fast food restaurant.
tim pool
Yep.
So I'm riding the car with some skateboarders.
And some of these guys from the south side of Chicago, it's probably when I'm like 20, 19 years old maybe, and the way they speak, they say, when I go to jail, I'm going to X. They don't say if.
They don't say, I hope I don't.
They say, when I do.
And the other thing is, many of them like that they've done it, and they brag about it.
They go, you ain't notion.
You know, ish.
Where did you get locked up?
Man, I spent X amount of time in this place.
You're gonna come at me, bro?
joshua smith
It's just like getting your wings in the military, man.
It's the same thing.
It's like something you're proud of.
tim pool
But if they said, aren't you that guy I saw in the diaper?
Gaba goobying down Michigan Avenue and everyone laughed at you?
He'd be like, nah, that wasn't me, I swear to God.
joshua smith
There's video, buddy.
I'm pretty sure that was you.
tim pool
Where there's a guy, there's a guy who's like on his bed on the internet naked or something, and then someone tweeted, there's another guy who posted something and someone tweeted him, hey aren't you that guy that's butt-ass naked on your couch?
And he's like, no it's not me, and they post a picture of it.
People are terrified of that.
And so I'm not literally saying we should have people dress in diapers, I'm making the point that the idea of locking someone in a box with their gang, and they like it, That's not solving any problems at all.
joshua smith
It's all the way from home.
tim pool
It's like a career move.
unidentified
Yeah, literally.
tim pool
It's like a criminal career move, yeah.
And then there's a lot of people.
It's not helping.
There'll be a guy who's like, I saw this in Ferguson.
So they're struggling to pay their bills.
They're driving to work, and they've got a busted taillight.
They get pulled over.
They can't pay the bill, so they don't.
Then they get pulled over.
So there's a bunch of small towns when you drive through the St.
Louis metro.
It's like 99 different cities.
And so, when you can't pay the bill, it's like, it's a weekend in jail.
The only problem, it's two days.
No big deal, right?
But if you've got six tickets across six jurisdictions, they put you on tour.
It's where you go to one jail.
Two days later, they transport you to the next jail.
Two days later, next jail.
I'm like, how is taking this guy out of the workforce and stripping him of the money he doesn't have helping anybody because he couldn't pay a ticket?
None of that solves any problems.
libby emmons
That's not a good reason.
tim pool
And how are we taking gang members, putting them in boxes with their gang where they're happy it's happening, and acting like we're solving the problem in any way?
ian crossland
I was just thinking about Boo Kelly.
You guys see he got elected with 90% people or so?
And there's apparently like a, well, according to the news, very legitimate election, but people love him.
What is he doing to get the gangs off?
Is it just severe brutality in El Salvador right now?
libby emmons
He's just locking them all up.
tim pool
They're arresting them all.
ian crossland
And they're just putting all these guys?
libby emmons
They're arresting them and putting them in a brutal prison where they just all sit there.
ian crossland
Like Arkham Asylum?
Like it's the worst of the worst of their society all together in one?
tim pool
Arkham Asylum!
libby emmons
Basically, that's what it looks like in the pictures.
tim pool
And they're terrified, dude.
So there are guys who have gang tattoos, and they're hiding in the shadows.
It's wild, some of the stories I've heard.
Cause like, you join a gang, you get a tattoo on your face.
Now that Bukele's locking up all the gang members, their makeup, covering it up, they're panicking, like, if I get seen associated with a gang in any way, it's straight to lock up.
serge du preez
Yeah.
I was talking to my Salvadorian friend just the other day in D.C.
and he said, like, he went back just recently after Bukele was elected and he says it's like night and day.
Like, he doesn't even recognize his own neighborhood anymore from when he grew up as a kid.
ian crossland
He says it's the most violent country in the world, or at least in Central.
joshua smith
It was up there.
Definitely a top five.
ian crossland
And now it's one of the safest in the world.
joshua smith
Yeah.
And Bitcoin's legal tender.
serge du preez
Yeah.
And their economy is like...
tim pool
Sick.
This is Zaitsev.
Check page 213 of the bill.
Aliens from non-contiguous countries shall not be included in calculating the sum of aliens encountered.
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
tim pool
Can you pull that up, 213?
libby emmons
Aliens described in subsection blah blah from non-contiguous countries shall not be included in calculating the sum of aliens encountered.
joshua smith
What are the, which countries?
unidentified
Are they saying that if you come from China to Mexico you're not going to be counted?
libby emmons
Non-contiguous means if you don't touch, if your country doesn't touch the U.S.
tim pool
Right.
unidentified
Wow.
libby emmons
That is messed up, you guys.
unidentified
Wow!
joshua smith
Call your congressman tomorrow.
phil labonte
Everybody that is not from Canada or Mexico is not counted in that three million a year that we'll be allowed in.
tim pool
This bill is very important.
We've got a Canadian illegal immigration problem.
unidentified
We just had two people arrested.
libby emmons
Two illegal immigrants were just arrested for running a human trafficking ring across the Canadian border.
tim pool
You should screenshot that.
joshua smith
It's much easier to get into America from Canada than it is to get into Canada from America.
phil labonte
I heard some pod... Stitch and I were talking about this particular phrase, and they were saying that they were thinking that it might be something having to do with Cuba, but the way that it sounds to me, it does sound like if it's not, if you're not from Canada or Mexico, which are the only two countries that are legitimate, where the people could make legitimate asylum claims because you're supposed to stop in the first
safe country that you come to.
If that if it's the case, then that means that they that anyone that isn't from Canada or Mexico
is is not counted. So the number could be, you know, God knows.
libby emmons
And that's for the purpose of closing the border. So they won't have to close the border if it's
just all people from not Mexico. Yeah. So you could have like, you know,
phil labonte
5000 people from from Africa, and they don't count towards the 5000 people to close the border.
That's what it seems like.
That's what it looks like.
ian crossland
Most of the people are not coming from Mexico.
Not Mexican nationals.
joshua smith
Excuse me, this bill is ass.
It needs to go away very quickly, very fast.
phil labonte
Everyone should call their congress people.
Tomorrow.
joshua smith
All day.
All day long.
What time?
ian crossland
Should we coordinate like at two in the morning?
phil labonte
No, no, no.
It doesn't matter when.
The time doesn't matter.
Just fill up their mailboxes.
ian crossland
Is there a website you can go to where you put in your area code and it shows you who your congressman is?
phil labonte
There should be, yeah.
Well, I mean, everyone, you can go to your, yeah, you can Google.
If you Google whatever your, you know, I'm from this town who's my congressman, Google will tell you what your district is.
joshua smith
I will say, though, Mitch McConnell coming out and saying it.
So Mitch McConnell's basically the guy in my lifetime that has always been like, oh, there's a bad bipartisan bill coming through?
We should vote for it.
phil labonte
You said that, but I saw something from Tenet Media earlier that said that Mitch McConnell was for it, so I'm not sure.
joshua smith
Oh, I didn't say that.
Libby said it.
Libby was wrong, not me.
I'm just parodying.
phil labonte
Libby, why are you lying to me?
Why are you lying to me?
libby emmons
Yo, why are you lying, Libby?
joshua smith
Mitch McConnell saying to vote against the bill.
libby emmons
That's what I thought.
tim pool
He didn't say that?
joshua smith
She said she saw it.
libby emmons
I said I saw it on Alex Boyd Johnson's Twitter.
joshua smith
I was surprised to hear that because Mitch McConnell basically is like the bad bipartisan bill machine, right?
He's the guy in the Republicans that's like, oh, it's another bill that's going to not help American citizens at all?
Sure, why not?
serge du preez
Every every time I want to see anything about this bike popular people never really stoked.
joshua smith
It's always what do you do in Kentucky get it together geez?
You got you have Thomas Massey and Rand Paul Yeah, I know.
unidentified
And Mitch McConnell, of all the people?
joshua smith
Come on.
tim pool
Alright, Jacob Hawley says, Ian, I just want to thank you.
Your humanity and compassion and your quick jump to assume the best in people has given me hope.
About a year ago, I was depressed, alone, and without purpose.
I considered ending myself many times.
You and God saved me.
ian crossland
You know what, dude?
I was thinking this, like, yesterday.
If you live in fear, even if you succeed, you've failed.
Like, you have to have at least that Hope?
Hope is what makes us human.
in the future. Hope? Yeah, yeah, even if things are bad, like fuck it, be hopeful man, because
joshua smith
things are going to get better and live like that. Hope is what makes us human. Winston Churchill was
ian crossland
great about that during World War II because it was like the darkest time in British history and
unidentified
they, people were getting bombed in London, they were, anyway. Let's read this.
tim pool
E.W.
says, y'all need to go watch the Dave Smith's interview with RFK Jr.
this past week.
ian crossland
I did.
tim pool
Dave 180'd on RFK Jr.
The idea that he would VP with RFK Jr.
after that is hilarious.
Go watch the interview.
joshua smith
Yeah.
He wrecked.
unidentified
I'm telling you, there's the longest- He was a fan of RFK Jr.? ?
joshua smith
I think he's a fan of the anti-war narrative that he had been having prior to this Israeli-Palestinian conflict recharging.
tim pool
But he obliterates RFK Jr.?
joshua smith
On Israel?
He took him to task on all of this stuff real bad.
And in fact, at the end asked him, do you think Israel has too much influence on American politics?
And it was the longest pregnant pause I've ever seen.
It was probably 10 seconds.
Somebody made a video of it with the Curb Your Enthusiasm music because it was so long.
He was like, well, And then he starts saying, well, I'm not really a politician, so I couldn't tell ya.
Okay, alright.
Sure, you couldn't.
tim pool
Yikes.
I will just say this.
libby emmons
Phil, MTG reacted to it, and it came from Punchbowl.
tim pool
I was just playing with you, Libby.
So nobody owes us any favors.
If you don't want to come on the show, then you don't come on the show, that's fine.
But there are a lot of these personalities who are terrified to come on this show because they know you say it, I'm going to Google search it right there on the spot and pull it up.
And so we've had a hard time trying to book RFK Jr.
for sure.
joshua smith
Yeah, it's going to be a hard one for sure.
You know, there's another thing, too.
He's been invited to the Libertarian Party of California convention.
In fact, they're doing a debate there that has him, Cornel West, Jill Stein, and any Libertarian candidate that was willing to pay $5,000 to be in a debate for our own party at our own state convention when they're not charging them.
Which is kind of weird, right?
I would say it's kind of weird.
Anyways, so he's going to debate, I think, Jacob Hornberger and maybe Michael Recktenwald because they paid the fee.
I refuse to pay the fee.
tim pool
Johnny Medler says RFK Jr.
endorsed Hillary Clinton three times.
He's one of them, no matter what he says now.
Yeah, but he's pulling votes from Joe Biden.
joshua smith
I think he's pulling votes from both sides.
tim pool
It's mostly Joe, mostly Biden.
joshua smith
I think it's polling now, mostly Biden.
I think in a general election, he's pulling from both sides.
ian crossland
Yeah, probably a little, but I think he's really got that Democrat flair.
joshua smith
Yeah, but there's a right-wing contingent that really likes this guy because of his COVID stances.
ian crossland
Oh yeah, COVID's content with Trump and COVID.
joshua smith
If you guys are looking for a COVID guy, I want to put the COVID regime in Guantanamo Bay.
tim pool
All right, let's read this.
Domestic Tourist says, Please pray for my dog Scout.
Cast, crew, and listeners, he is currently battling bone cancer and I'm not sure how long he has.
I'm a veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan and he's my service dog.
He saved my life.
Sorry to hear it, man.
I hope for the best.
I hope he has a good recovery and just cherish every moment you can have with him.
joshua smith
Praying for your doggo, man.
Thanks for sharing.
tim pool
Heal those bones.
So Mr. Bocas, we were on Friday.
You know, someone came down and said, he's like sprawled out on the ground, like staring at the floor, his face just flat on the ground.
And we were kind of worried like at any moment he could die.
I mean, we've artificially lengthened his life as long as we can.
He's got a defective heart.
He's got defective kidneys and he's young, but this is, you know, eat garbage and live in the street.
Maybe when he was younger, he ate some chemical or who knows.
And so we came up and he was sitting there.
And so I thought to myself, you know what?
He's on a special diet for his kidneys.
But it's looking really bad.
He really, he eats, he's hungry, that's good, that's a good sign, but he's not putting on weight.
So I thought we should give him some raw beef.
Because he really, really, when he came up here, he was trying to eat the biltong like crazy, but he can't eat it, it's salted and it's spiced.
And I was like, he's showing signs of like, this may be the end.
joshua smith
End of life, yeah.
tim pool
And so if he loves beef, he's got his last meal coming, buddy.
And so we gave him a chunk of raw beef, he ate it, He's looking better.
And I have read studies about feeding cats raw meat, because it's literally what they eat.
And so I'm hoping, and it may be a stupid thing to hope, that if he is about to die, and I'm going to give him some good food before he goes and let him fill his belly with raw meat like he'd love to eat, I'm happy he gets it.
But I'm kind of hoping that maybe that, that... Kickstarts him.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, that just eats it, and it helps him put, put weight back on or something.
And so I looked into what is the lowest phosphorus meat, because that's, that's what you got to watch out for, for his kidney problem, and it's beef.
joshua smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And so I was like, straight up, non-salted, low-sodium, just regular old raw beef, and he went nuts for it.
I'm hoping that keeps him eating, and I'm hoping the raw meat is better for him and helps him put weight back on.
unidentified
But, uh, if not, then I'm just happy that, uh... He had a good end.
tim pool
He had a good last meal of the raw meat.
Because this stuff, we feed him for his kidney diet.
It's little, you know, dry pellets.
And then he's got this canned food that looks like garbage.
And he eats it, but he just, like, you know.
libby emmons
Why would you not just want something good?
ian crossland
I've got the Liver King's beef liver supplement pill.
And every once in a while, I was pulling, undoing a capsule and putting a little powder on it.
Man, he goes nuts for that beef.
joshua smith
He wants it.
You should get all the Liver King's growth hormones, dude.
ian crossland
Shout out to Liver King.
joshua smith
You just get absolutely jacked like that, dude.
You should do it.
That'd be great.
Get like a supercharged vehicle and just get super jacked.
It'd be great.
I'd love to see it.
serge du preez
And just claim liver and clean eating the entire time.
joshua smith
We'll get you some cream and clear, you can take a bath.
ian crossland
I'm gonna do a liver cleanse I'll tell you guys about on another show.
tim pool
Phobes says, Hey Josh, it's simple.
Just asked him whether Libertarians should vote for Dick Cheney if he were the Libertarian nominee.
joshua smith
That's a funny joke.
Yeah, but like, No, that's a funny joke because Dave Smith asked Nick Sarwark, the prior chair of the LNC, who I was at war with, on his show, do you think libertarians should vote for Dick Cheney if he's the nominee?
And he said, Hitler, Hillary Clinton, anybody.
Yes, they have an obligation as a libertarian to vote for them because it helps the libertarian party.
And that's kind of where- Nick Sarwark is very dumb.
That's why we took over the party.
I mean, Nick Sarwark was the reason why we took over.
tim pool
One of my favorite points to make was I constantly hear these Trump supporters, conservatives in general, say, if the Libertarians just voted for Trump in 2020, then Trump would be the president.
And I said, Libertarians don't like the Republican Party.
They have this worldview, not all of them, but many of them, that Libertarians We are conservatives.
joshua smith
And we owe our vote to the Republicans too, that's the other thing.
tim pool
And it's like, I'm like, Libertarians don't like 90% of what Republicans do.
I don't understand why they would want to vote for you.
joshua smith
A lot of us were Republicans, and in fact, modern Libertarians today came from the Ron Paul movement, okay?
And like, we watched them arrest our caucus members at caucuses around the country for Ron Paul.
We watched them change the national convention rules to keep delegates out.
Like, we're not going back.
tim pool
We got one more, it's a good one.
Rah Gidnuk says last.
Anywho, you must get Rebaport on Timcast.
Give him platform and expand viewers.
Please, he's hilarious and I'd love to hear him rant about Pig Dick Trump and Cadaver Joe for two hours.
I'm sure not alone in desiring that.
So we've reached out to his agent and we are trying to get him on the Culture War.
I think it would be two hours of laughing.
I think we'd be laughing the whole time.
You know, for the people who don't like Trump... He's so funny.
Yeah, I gotta say, for all the people who really hate Trump, he's a funny guy and self-aware.
So I feel like it wouldn't be this thing where we're just yelling at each other about being wrong.
I think we'd be laughing our asses off with everything he says.
libby emmons
He's been funny for years.
tim pool
I would really I would really enjoy that.
unidentified
So I hope I hope he gets back to us and made a whole career off of being a bad actor.
joshua smith
Like literally that was like his whole shtick is like I know I'm a bad actor.
I act bad in movies on purpose now because that's who I am.
tim pool
He was in my favorite movie true romance.
It's like my very favorite movie ever made.
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joshua smith
Yeah, follow me on Twitter at JoshuaAtLarge, and of course go check out my show, Break the Cycle with Joshua Smith on YouTube, Rumble, and also Odyssey, but we're live on YouTube.
phil labonte
I am PhilThatRemains on Twix.
I'm PhilThatRemainsOfficial on Instagram.
The band is All That Remains.
You can follow us on Spotify, Apple Music, Pandora, YouTube, Amazon Music, you know.
tim pool
When's that album coming out?
phil labonte
We're gonna release some music end of March, first week of April, very last, at the very end of first quarter, beginning of second quarter.
The first release and then the record should be June.
tim pool
Have you, have you announced which songs are getting released?
phil labonte
No, but you know which one it is.
tim pool
I know, I'm just like, I'm waiting.
It's such a good song, dude.
phil labonte
It's so good!
We'll have the mix hopefully in the next couple weeks.
I got one more trip to finish up two more songs, and then we got to do some vocals and stuff, but... Are you going heavier or softer?
Well, now it's all acoustic now.
ian crossland
Dude!
Can we play it on the show?
unidentified
No, no, it's his fault for asking that.
ian crossland
Once we've launched, you want to play it on the show?
phil labonte
It's not acoustic, I'm kidding.
ian crossland
We should do an acoustic album.
tim pool
Can you do an acoustic version?
phil labonte
That'd be pretty savage if we did that.
We can do a couple songs.
We've done two weeks acoustic.
We've done Forever in Your Hands acoustic.
We've done a couple of them acoustic.
We can get away with it, but not every one.
tim pool
I'll just say this before we jump to Libby, but I've heard the songs and I'm just like, I was talking to Allison and I was like, when did Phil show us all this?
Like I was, we were playing it.
Like Phil's like, here's a sample and I'm playing it in the house in my playlist before anyone can hear it.
I'm honored to be able to do it.
But, dude, you gotta release it.
phil labonte
I'm excited for it.
Really, the thing is, it's just a matter of getting everything done.
Everybody's got a bunch of things they've got going on, moving pieces, getting our drummer, getting time and stuff.
But it's coming.
It's almost done.
We've got, like, just a couple more things to finish up.
ian crossland
Did you get the drummer to play a disco beat?
unidentified
No.
You have a drummer that plays classic with, like, the... Not anymore.
All right.
Libby.
joshua smith
I haven't seen you in a while.
Sorry.
libby emmons
Hi, I'm Libby, guys.
phil labonte
I adore you.
libby emmons
When's your album dropping?
My album is dropping in just a couple weeks.
unidentified
All right.
libby emmons
And I'm really excited about it.
I hope that you guys all come to, I don't know, what do you do when albums, do you have a party?
CD release.
phil labonte
CD release?
unidentified
Any guest spots from Ben Shapiro?
libby emmons
No, Ben Shapiro won't be there, sadly.
tim pool
It's an album of Libby reading quotes from famous philosophers and political pundits for two hours.
libby emmons
And, you know, on the B side, it's just me doing some Ibsen monologues from Dollhouse.
So it's going to be really pretty stellar.
And if you want to hear more about that...
If you want to hear more about that, you can follow me at Libby Emmons on Twitter and see all the work we're doing at ThePostMillennial.com.
We'd be glad if you subscribe to ThePostMillennial.com slash subscribe.
serge du preez
I want to get that record.
Sounds great.
libby emmons
I want to do it now!
serge du preez
Well, I'll help you if you want to do that.
If you're really about it, let's do it.
That's like afternoon's work.
phil labonte
Yo, you could write, you could do like all the, like it could be all electronic and then it could be Libby reading The Post Millennial.
ian crossland
Vaporwave.
unidentified
That's hot.
serge du preez
Yeah, let's let's do it.
I'm Serge.com.
Follow me on SoundCloud.
Why not?
And everywhere else.
I argue on Twix.
It's fun.
Let's go to the after show.
ian crossland
Big, big ups to everybody here.
Good to be back.
Good to see you, Josh.
Love you, man.
I'm going to be debating destiny on February 11th.
That's next Sunday, I think, or Saturday in Cincinnati.
That's going to be great.
So it's going to be a debate conversation about election integrity.
I've been doing research, man.
And when you start going down the rabbit hole of finding names of people that work at companies that work with companies, it's like, Whoa, what are the ethics of calling out these people?
tim pool
Destiny does not know what he's getting himself into.
ian crossland
Dude, this is going to be the hottest event Cincinnati has seen in winter in a long time.
tim pool
He's not going to be able to handle debating Ian.
ian crossland
Yeah, Steve Bonnell.
So it's a debate conversation.
We'll see where it flows.
I'm really looking forward to it, so check it out.
I'll let you know more as the week goes on, and we'll see you on the after show.
tim pool
Alright, we'll see you all over at TimCast.com.
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