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tim pool
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hannah claire brimelow
Welcome to everyone's favorite coup show called Brimcast.
I do this whenever Tim lets me and or I make him so he's so exhausted after Iowa that I can just stage my own show.
No.
Guys, welcome to the after show.
I'm happy to be here.
I actually don't know what we're going to talk about because I left the room.
tim pool
RFK was very thirsty.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh my gosh, I actually just submitted this to Chris Carr, editor, to put up on the site while we were on the show because I caught this right at the end.
So we were talking about this a little bit.
Have you seen these?
There's a screen recording from TikTok of RFK uh it's it's this it's an OnlyFans model and she's posing basically to show off her butt she's in like black shorts and if you look at the comment section the RFK official TikTok page here we go wow with some emojis it's his legitimate thing
And so today he addressed this in a thread that I actually thought was also very funny and it leads off with, because if you look at the, it's not there anymore, but if you look at the comment it was in I think September of 2022.
Yeah, 22, 9, 16.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
And he said it was a staffer.
hannah claire brimelow
Here's his explanation.
He said, best lead of all time, do people really think I was TikToking in 2022?
Which is like both true and slightly boomery in like a very nice way.
And his explanation is that when he launched his campaign, his TikTok did not have a thousand followers, which is the minimum threshold for going live.
So his social media manager, who's this 33 year old guy from Georgia, No problem, you'll just use mine.
We'll change everything over.
But that did not scrub any of the comments.
And so it makes me wonder what else is out there.
Like, I don't know TikTok, I don't use it, so I don't know if we can go back and easily find your comments and delete them really quick.
shane cashman
Can we find those?
Can people go out there and... This can't be the only one.
tim pool
It was wrong.
RFK's got a bad PR guy.
unidentified
He should have said, And.
brandon straka
Just own it.
hannah claire brimelow
He's on his third marriage.
So people were sort of like, it's very Kennedy.
People were sort of like, this means that he's just this terrible whatever else, which again, like maybe is on brand.
Maybe isn't the person.
brandon straka
It kind of makes me like him more.
tim pool
I'm running for president and they come to me and they say, uh, everyone's sort of laughing because they found a comment from you two years ago on an OnlyFans girl with a big butt and I'll go, oh.
hannah claire brimelow
But you're not married and I feel like that does make a slight difference.
tim pool
But either way, like, what are you doing with this?
Like, it's just funnier if you're, if, and they're like, well, what do you have to say about it?
I don't know.
What are you supposed to say to this?
What do you think I'm gonna, what am I supposed to, what is, what are you supposed to say to this?
You can either deny it or there's nothing to be said.
hannah claire brimelow
Which is, it's really interesting.
I mean, I think the question is, remember when it was Bootgate and DeSantis was in trouble for, you know, maybe, probably wearing lifts in his cowboy boots?
And the whole conversation was, would America elect a short president?
What are they more likely to do?
Elect a president who's short or one who's lying about wearing lifts?
And in this case, it's, do we want a president that is actually on social media commenting on OnlyFans creators?
I think it's maybe not that what they're trying to sell, but maybe this would make him more endearing to many people.
I don't know.
shane cashman
He's already like, there's people I know, uh, women who find him really attractive.
And when like the whole, uh, shirtless thing.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, he posted that like workout routine.
shane cashman
He's posting thirst traps.
He's liking thirst traps.
This is his whole thing.
Did he name the staffer?
hannah claire brimelow
Daily Mail had the guy's name.
shane cashman
Really?
So did RFK release that?
He's like, it's this guy.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't know where it came from.
Daily Mail was the one who said, we've identified it as this guy.
shane cashman
It was Charles.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, he was like, that guy.
But also this means that he went to his wife and was like, it's not me.
It was that one guy.
And we had to do it.
shane cashman
It was like, Cheryl, I stopped this.
Two years ago, you know?
hannah claire brimelow
Two lives ago.
But I do, I mean, the best defense is, do you think I was TikToking in 2022?
And I just, I don't.
shane cashman
Who knows?
He was podcasting all through 2023.
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like podcasting is much more accessible to people of his age than TikToking is.
Perhaps I'm wrong.
brandon straka
How far back do the videos go that he's posted?
hannah claire brimelow
This is the only comment that I've seen surface, but his video started right around the time of his campaign.
tim pool
I would have loved it if they reached out to him and they were like, can you explain what is going on with this comment?
unidentified
And he went, well, you've got to understand that women with very large butts are very sexually attractive and I appreciate them very much.
So I thought commenting, wow, was appropriate here.
And I think you would agree.
And most men in this country would vote for me.
hannah claire brimelow
He's like, oh, he's I like the gym.
She likes the gym.
I'm just appreciating the fact that she's taking care of her physique.
I'm all about that.
tim pool
What if he was like.
When they asked, like, what is this comment you posted?
He'd be like, well, I think you agree with my comment, right?
It is a shockingly large butt!
Wow!
shane cashman
He actually gets her to campaign for him now.
hannah claire brimelow
She's the new social media director.
shane cashman
Have you seen RFK Jr.' 's OnlyFans page?
hannah claire brimelow
Look, somebody has to win the OnlyFans vote, and I think maybe it's going to be RFK.
shane cashman
Yeah, I guess.
I could have been Trump.
I mean, his wife has posed nude.
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, but she's a classy lady in a way.
shane cashman
Too classy for OnlyFans.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
No, no.
I think this is obviously kind of a weird snafu.
shane cashman
So you believe him?
You believe his statement?
hannah claire brimelow
I find it really believable that he was not on TikTok.
I just, you know, maybe he podcasted, but I just like don't give that much credit to the boomers.
I think anything's possible.
brandon straka
I gotta push back on that.
I don't think that TikTok is that complicated and I think that if you're an older married guy who wants to find videos of sexy women dancing around and like you go to TikTok and it's not that difficult to figure out how to create an account And start commenting on the videos.
And in fact, I would even argue if you are a boomer, you're probably not sitting there thinking like, oh, other people are reading my comments too.
This isn't just between me and Big Butt Girl.
shane cashman
Yeah, that's how my grandma used the internet.
She would leave me direct messages, but in comment sections of pictures from like years ago.
Like, Grandma, this is very personal information you're asking us to do right now.
hannah claire brimelow
No, that's true.
Because I think that's one of the... I mean, I've talked about this a little with Biden, because he just lies so constantly and gets caught all the time.
But part of it is because he started his career pre-internet, so he could just say whatever and no one could really fact check him that efficiently.
Whereas now we're able to go back and be like, two years ago, you said this thing, we have it on video.
Maybe this is more boomer core.
tim pool
The wow comment with two emojis is a boomer comment.
I'm sorry.
It's not some young guy comment.
Young guy would say something like, damn girl, you're looking fine.
shane cashman
That's actually a really good point.
hannah claire brimelow
There's one underneath that the guy's like, why does it look so good?
And she like responds, Jim.
She was engaging with some of them.
shane cashman
How old is the video?
Does it say?
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, the comments was in 2022 and I think that's when the video was posted.
shane cashman
Have we found her?
hannah claire brimelow
Can we... She's around, yeah.
shane cashman
She said it was another name who actually first commented and then randomly became a comment.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, she had a comment on the story, but she's active on OnlyFans.
shane cashman
Okay, so we got to find her, everybody, and we got to find where RFK Jr.
was in September 2021.
Two.
hannah claire brimelow
2022.
shane cashman
Where were you, RFK Jr.?
Probably writing that Fauci book.
hannah claire brimelow
That's true.
Yeah, that book is... So he was spending a lot of time online researching, question mark.
tim pool
Okay, here we go.
I got her profile.
All right.
So this one's from, let's get the date on it.
It's from September 3rd, 2022.
RFK is a man of culture.
Where's RFK Jr.?
They deleted it?
RFK led me here.
hannah claire brimelow
Someone tag him in a lower comment.
Oh my gosh, that's great.
shane cashman
Is she on Good Morning America tomorrow to talk about this?
Like this is the kind of thing they would do.
hannah claire brimelow
Look, she honestly owes some credit.
There are going to be so many people who know about her.
This was like marketing in a way that she never could.
brandon straka
As a woman, would you like to have a butt like that?
tim pool
Oh, she posted a video 42 minutes ago.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't know, I mean... I think it's unnatural.
shane cashman
I think it's too big, but it seems unnatural.
brandon straka
Not my thing.
hannah claire brimelow
It seems unnatural to me, but also, the thing is, I think with women... Wait, what?
There's too much variety in bodies.
She posted it.
Look.
tim pool
She posted it.
hannah claire brimelow
You got my vote!
tim pool
You know, I was thinking for, like, women like this, I'm like, man, like, how do you run?
brandon straka
How do you do a lot of stuff?
tim pool
Yeah, like with big boobs and big asses, it's like, what if you're running from a bear?
hannah claire brimelow
It slows them down.
Look, we have problems.
shane cashman
I mean, it could be one of those fake asses the bear could eat.
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shane cashman
Fake ass, you know?
That's a terrible quote, but I said it anyway.
unidentified
What is this?
tim pool
Get info on US elections?
shane cashman
What?
tim pool
Oh, she tagged RFK Jr.
hannah claire brimelow
The thing is, the screenshots have been out for a while.
I saw them a couple months ago, but they went sort of, you know how this happens, like something will go around, you'll see it, but then it started getting shared really rapidly this week.
shane cashman
So now I'm thinking his campaign is sharing because his campaign seems to be dying.
unidentified
And now they're like, we need some type of... His campaign definitely seems to be dying.
hannah claire brimelow
Chris Carr just told me this.
He did an interview where he was saying, I have You know, 26%, I'm gaming steadily 1% a week.
I only need 34% to beat both Trump and Biden, which I find really interesting.
shane cashman
His only energy is in kind of whack podcasts.
unidentified
I'm sorry, are you hating on podcasts right now?
shane cashman
Well, there's like podcasts that like love him, that look up to him and they let him like talk forever and there's no pushback on anything.
And I think it's kind of ridiculous.
And that's the only place I see energy for RFK Jr.
Honestly, there's none in the real world.
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe that's enough, right?
That's what I love about a third-party candidate.
unidentified
You can't always wait the variables.
shane cashman
To me, like, I see people who are interested in him at first, but it's really people who are also interested in Trump and their love of, what love they have of RFK is not trumped by Trump.
No, the other way around.
hannah claire brimelow
See, I felt like I saw the opposite, which is like, there were people who were like, gonna vote for Trump, but actually they lean more moderate or left, and they are the ones who got behind RFK.
There's definitely those.
shane cashman
There's definitely those, because they're like, he's definitely against the vaccine stuff, or the COVID stuff, where they lost, you know, a lot of respect for the left.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, he's socially left in a way that agrees with a lot of them.
shane cashman
Yeah, I just think he's still like a liberal at the end of the day.
And there's a lot of things I really disagree with him on, even though I really agree with him on COVID stuff.
He's still the thing that will make for the inevitable world that we're in now.
hannah claire brimelow
I actually feel like his campaign would be stronger if, you know how every once in a while for the past year, they've been like, a new version of COVID, another virus.
They've been sort of trying to hype that back up.
If one of those had been taken seriously, if there had been another, like, are we going to lock down?
Is there an illness fear?
I think he would have jumped in the polls.
tim pool
In 2020, I had said something to the effect of, if Joe Biden wins, these people are going to show up on like November 10th or whatever and storm the White House.
They're going to be crazy and furious.
And I was wrong.
It was January 6th.
They went to the Capitol building.
But the general essence was correct.
I think what happens with Trump and this election is Trump wins, RFK gets 24%, Trump wins with like high 30%, and then the left uses that to argue he's an illegitimate president because of his minority victory.
shane cashman
Do you see Trump and RFK working together again?
tim pool
No.
I don't see why they would.
I mean, RFK seems very irrelevant right now.
But enough people who don't like Biden will vote for him.
And then Trump wins the Electoral College, bare minimum.
CNN saying Trump's going to have 272.
Spiking just enough, RFK stops Joe Biden from being able to compete with Trump.
Trump crosses the finish line.
Because it's got to be at least 270, otherwise it goes contingent.
It could go contingent.
Trump only gets like 30 or so.
The Republicans in the House then vote for Trump and the left says it's illegitimate.
He didn't actually win.
We refuse to be ruled by a guy who represents only nine.
They do this thing all the time with senators.
Half the country is represented by only nine million people and they're banging and screaming.
Repeal the fucking 17th.
That's why you do it.
Anyway.
hannah claire brimelow
What's your read on RFK?
brandon straka
Um, I don't have strong feelings one way or another, honestly.
I want him to stay in the race.
I think it's only good for us if he does stay in.
I think he would siphon off Biden votes more than he would siphon off Trump votes, and ultimately I think that's a good thing.
I don't really care about him that much.
shane cashman
I like things he talks about.
That's kind of how I felt about Vivek.
brandon straka
I mean, I don't like his policies, if that's true.
I agree with you, he's much too liberal.
shane cashman
He's way too liberal, but then he also talks about things that I really do like, where he, you know, his, I mean...
He knows how horrible the FBI and the CIA can be.
You know, he, like me, believes that they killed his uncle and his father, right?
So he'll talk about crazy, you know, conspiracy theories about, you know, because he understands them so intimately.
And he also wrote a crazy book on Fauci.
That book is a really hard read.
Every few pages, I'm like, I got to put this down because I'm fucking enraged with Fauci.
unidentified
Yo!
shane cashman
Uh-oh.
tim pool
Wall Street Journal laid off their Washington bureau?
shane cashman
What?
hannah claire brimelow
During the election year?
tim pool
Yeah, what the fuck?
unidentified
Excuse me?
tim pool
Hold on, hold on.
shane cashman
Holy shit.
hannah claire brimelow
If any bureau, I thought that would be the one that hung around.
tim pool
Washington State.
I'm just gonna say that.
hannah claire brimelow
Okay.
tim pool
No, but I don't know.
unidentified
I'm looking it up, but like... It can't be.
shane cashman
This is the year they need them this year.
Or do they?
tim pool
Yup, D.C.
hannah claire brimelow
The D.C.
tim pool
bureau?
shane cashman
Holy shit.
They're going A.I.
tim pool
20 staffers laid off in their Washington bureau.
shane cashman
Damn.
unidentified
Dude.
hannah claire brimelow
Why is that so funny to me?
tim pool
Guys, I just want everyone to understand.
unidentified
They're just like, the election's over, who cares?
tim pool
This is the money.
This is the golden ticket.
Like the amount of money we made off advertisements in 2020?
Because what happens is all politicians are running.
All of them!
And they're all competing for similar spaces when they want donations.
Most members of Congress will run ads in their district.
PAX, however, may run more generalized ads in a certain area, which can cross over.
Senators that are running.
And then, of course, the presidential race is going to be billions of dollars.
This is when news outlets are like, ramp it up, baby.
We want as much content as possible to get as much ads.
They're laying people off.
That's fucking crazy.
shane cashman
How bad must it be?
tim pool
Yeah.
They don't think they can recover?
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
Maybe they know something we don't, and they're like, there's not going to be an election, so we're not going to waste our time on it.
hannah claire brimelow
What other beers have they laid off?
That's my question.
Like, was this one the first one to go or have they been sort of letting people go for a minute?
shane cashman
Yeah.
I wonder how many of these places are really gonna turn to AI to write articles.
I mean, I've heard stories like that already.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, doesn't BuzzFeed do it already?
In ESPN, I think?
shane cashman
I feel like, what's the difference between AI and their writers?
hannah claire brimelow
Hey, they have some of the best quizzes.
I've learned a lot about myself.
What cereal tells you what city you should live in?
How would I know if I didn't take the quiz?
unidentified
Oh, jeez.
shane cashman
No, but like, do they still do listicles?
They did.
I will give it to BuzzFeed.
They had some investigative reporting.
hannah claire brimelow
They did have some, and I will say like- Some years ago.
Ballistical format worked.
Like, it's dumb, it's stupid, but people shared it, like, there is a reason that they were able to sustain what they were doing for a while.
serge du preez
You won't believe number seven.
shane cashman
I was working, I was writing for Vice when I was, uh, Vice Sports was the first thing to go.
I was actually working for a story for Vice Sports, and right before the story got published, it died.
The story never got published.
I'm like, damn, Vice is even going out?
And that was 10, 12 years ago.
Hi, it's me.
hannah claire brimelow
Hi, are you on your way?
Yeah, or you know what?
shane cashman
It's a bit of a crisis because there's no train.
They just ended up going like full-on porn.
hannah claire brimelow
Tell me what pizza topping you would put on your pizza and I'll tell you about your future job.
I just, I learn a lot. I think it's great.
Do you have any predictions about this coming?
unidentified
Hello!
Hi, it's me.
Hi, are you on your way?
Yeah, or you know what? It's a bit of a crisis here because there's no train.
Oh, yeah.
You know what? I don't know what I'm doing.
No, you can just hire me.
Well, so I did a real turnabout with Vivek Ramaswamy.
Didn't like him at all.
Find out how at Hyrano.
hannah claire brimelow
Election year, like who do you think is going to be VP for Trump?
brandon straka
Hmm, well, so I did a real turnabout with Vivek Ramaswamy.
Didn't like him at all.
Didn't trust him very much.
Um, although I think I had good reasons for it.
I mean, let me say this.
Okay, cut to the end.
Now I do like him now.
And he's grown on me a lot and he's earned my trust to a degree.
I don't trust anybody implicitly.
But I think when Vivek first came on the scene, he was super polished.
His delivery was too clean, and I think that's part of what fed into this kind of like he's snaky or he's a used car salesman.
hannah claire brimelow
He said so many of the right things using the correct buzzwords.
I think it did raise some eyebrows.
brandon straka
Yeah, and it was just a little bit, I think, too mechanical, a little bit robotic.
I think he started making all the right decisions a little too late.
You know, I think when he went down to just, like, the jeans and the vest and, like, started talking a little more human and really addressing the really controversial issues like, you know, January 6th and the FBI and the Whitmer Fednapping and all these different things, things that, you know, no other candidate was really even talking about.
Why did I go down this road?
Oh, predictions for the election.
I would like, I'd be very interested in seeing Vivek be considered.
I don't think he will be.
shane cashman
What was it?
Was there a certain moment that changed your mind on Vivek?
Because I still don't trust him.
There's something about him.
I just, I think he says everything I like.
I like all the things he says.
serge du preez
He's bad.
He's bad.
shane cashman
I just, I, there's something honestly about him that I distrust and I can't really place my finger on it, but also by his campaign that I distrust.
Cause it reminds me of like a Jimmy Carter campaign where he's, you know, a well-meaning person and saying a lot of great things.
Um, but then we'll fail, uh, horribly.
Um, I, that's just my gut telling me that.
Was there a moment for you where like that switched in your mind?
brandon straka
Yeah, the moment for me that it's, well, okay, first of all, his team started reaching out to me and we started having communications and I thought, that's cool because I have a huge appreciation for any Republican candidate who understands the power of Influencers, which is not a term.
I usually used to describe myself, but you know, we don't have Celebrities on the right.
We don't I mean, yeah, we don't have a lot kid rock.
I don't want to talk about it I don't want to react to that.
shane cashman
I Like kid rock though.
I'm just gonna put that I like kid rock too.
hannah claire brimelow
No, but we don't have actors and actresses we have sort of people who are in media or Correct.
Yeah.
brandon straka
Yeah and and They're rarely ever well utilized by most presidential campaigns.
So Vivek's team was the first to start reaching out to influencers and invite them, come hang out on the bus with us, come out on the trail with us.
And I was one of the people.
So I was like, well, no matter how I feel about him, of course I'm going to go because I want to get to know, I would do that.
If Biden said, come ride the bus with me, I'd be like, absolutely, of course.
shane cashman
You take the megaphone and run with it, for sure.
hannah claire brimelow
And you can see up close and personal what's really going on.
brandon straka
Yeah, so spent the day with him in Iowa a couple of months ago and went to six campaign stops and I'd say between stops three and four, four and five, they let me do a 35 minute interview with him on the bus.
You know, the first half was just general questions, second half was all January 6th.
And I explained to him a lot about January 6th.
Things that I've never had an opportunity to say to any politician because I've never been granted that opportunity.
Explaining things like why people are pleading guilty to things they didn't do, why people are taking plea deals, period.
Things that the public at large doesn't know yet because everybody who took a plea deal is still on probation and can't speak freely about why they made the choices that they made.
And so one of the things I said to him in that moment was, and this was not a live interview, it was, you know, I got to edit all this out later, like the public has never seen the conversation we had.
But I said to him, look, you keep saying that if you're elected president on day one, you're going to pardon all nonviolent J6ers.
I said, here's the problem I have with that.
A lot of people are pleading guilty to violence who did not commit violence.
A lot of people are confessing to doing, you know, fighting with police officers who did not.
It's not true, but they're being given no choice.
And I said, so if you're elected president or if you come into power, I need you to assure me That you're going to look at every case, case by case, give the defendants a chance to explain why they pled guilty and did what they did, and then you make the decision about who gets pardoned and who didn't.
And I made him literally say it back to me, which he did.
And then for the rest of the day, on the remainder of the campaign stops, four, five, six, because he had been talking about J6 on every stop and saying, on day one, I'm going to pardon all nonviolent J6ers.
he immediately changed his messaging right after that conversation.
And for the rest of the day, he said on day one of my administration,
I'm going to pardon all nonviolent J sixers. And he said, then the next thing we're doing,
we're going to do is go case by case and get an understanding of, you know,
what these cases are really about, why people made the decisions that they made.
And then we'll start issuing more pardons beyond that. And I was like,
that's really impressive to me. I can dig that. And, and not only did he say it the rest of the day in front of
me on those stops, he has said it on Fox news. He said it on all of his live
appearances.
He's always taken it to heart.
shane cashman
That's great.
I mean, that's great.
brandon straka
And I'm not saying, you know, I'm going to give him all my debit card codes and everything.
unidentified
Right.
brandon straka
But he earned some trust.
shane cashman
But that's the thing.
And I get a lot of people will tell me like, maybe Tim has said it, you know, he's shifted the Overton window and that's, that's great.
Right.
And I totally get it.
And you giving him that idea and then him taking that idea and running with it with a bigger megaphone.
Perfect.
brandon straka
Yeah.
unidentified
That's good.
tim pool
I love it.
hannah claire brimelow
I was like pointing at me.
I was like, Hey Tim, what's up?
serge du preez
All right, let's do that indeed.
shane cashman
We got a good... Is this girl still on the TikTok screen, man?
serge du preez
No.
hannah claire brimelow
Shane's like, put up the Nancy Pelosi AI porn.
serge du preez
What are we doing?
tim pool
There you go.
serge du preez
There you go.
shane cashman
Stop it, Hannah-Claire.
serge du preez
Now Shane can focus.
tim pool
All right, let's get that call.
serge du preez
America First, you are on the air.
unidentified
How are you?
Thanks for taking my call.
Of course.
So I'm wondering if the panel remembers in 07, during an interview with the retired General Wesley Clark, he told a story when he visited the Pentagon in October of 2001, right after 9-11.
And he said that an active general approached him, showed him this memo that he had just gotten from the Secretary of Defense office.
About how the U.S.
was planning to take out the next seven countries in, like, five years.
Yep.
And it said starting with Iraq and Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off with Iran.
Yep.
What are your thoughts about, like, the whole World War III, Iran kind of BS, that it really doesn't have anything to do with Biden precisely, but it's more of just, like, the deep state continuing... Right.
tim pool
...that whole... That's why Hillary Clinton lost.
That's why Hillary Clinton lost, partly.
I mean, Trump didn't win by that many votes, but people knew things like this, and that got enough people to be like, I ain't gonna vote for a warmonger.
And she's unlikable.
But of course, we knew as soon as Joe Biden got in, he was gonna kick off this plan they've had for a long time.
unidentified
Do you think it's kind of The way that a lot of people talk about it on the right and conservatives, they keep saying Biden's doing this, Biden, Biden.
Do you think it's an error to keep saying it like that?
tim pool
No, because Biden is doing it.
He's part of it.
unidentified
Do you really think he's doing it?
Do you really think he's mentally even Around at all that he's even doing anything besides like taking medicine and well, yeah, I'm not saying that it's his plan It's the CIA.
tim pool
It's a deep state intelligence assets the permanent government and he is the current Figurehead for this plan when we say Joe Biden's doing it's especially important because we want to vote him out You go around telling people vote for Donald Trump because we're up against insert intelligence officer and they're gonna bet who?
So Joe Biden is the front face of this plan and he represents everything they've done up to this point.
shane cashman
Yeah, they're just using him as a vessel.
unidentified
I do agree with that.
I just sometimes I think we miss the deeper plot and people keep wanting to point fingers at Biden and he just seems so feeble.
I just doesn't seem like he's doing much.
hannah claire brimelow
I think it'd be fair to say, even if he's not doing much, he's still playing a role in a theoretical plot, right?
Like, every... It's unlikely that it's one person who's just calling every single shot all of the time.
It's more likely that there are lots of cogs that are put in place to make this ultimate plot move forward, in my opinion.
unidentified
Yes, very true.
serge du preez
I don't know if that... Yeah, well, if there's anything else to add... Anything else to add to that?
unidentified
No, that's it.
Thanks, guys.
tim pool
Thanks for calling in, pointing that out.
That is an important story people should know about.
serge du preez
Yep, appreciate it.
Alright, Brian, Threat to Democracy.
Uh-oh.
Hello, how are you?
unidentified
How y'all doing tonight?
Can you hear me okay?
serge du preez
Loud and clear.
unidentified
Alright, good deal, good deal.
I got a question for the whole panel.
Today on scanner.com, Hannah Clare had an article up about a current Supreme Court case where West Point is having to defend its use of diversity bills as a criteria for selecting cadets.
The argument being that having a diverse officer is important for national security reasons.
Given that the service academies are the most selective colleges in the United States by far, shouldn't they be looking for the best candidates, or is there merit to the argument that having a diverse officer corps is an important goal?
shane cashman
Agreed.
unidentified
No.
shane cashman
It should be on a case-by-case, you know, basis.
What do they offer us?
Are they good leaders?
That's all we need.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, this is the interesting... I find Students Prefer Admission a really interesting organization and obviously they were the ones who led the first lawsuits, the UNC and the Harvard lawsuits, that ultimately led to the Supreme Court invalidating affirmative action.
And then this is their next go-round because In the original Supreme Court ruling, they noted specifically that the military academies are exempt from this because they're technically part of the Department of Defense.
They're a different thing.
They're regulated differently.
And I find, if you read the, I think I pulled a chunk of it for that article, but if you read the complaint filed by Students for Fair Admissions, they say West Point used to be about Ability and leadership, and it used to be about what they brought to the table, but it has now shifted to prioritize race over these things, and they specifically take complaint with the fact that they publish their goals.
They have specific, we want to have this percentage of the next class be African-American, be Asian, be whatever.
And their argument is that this is discriminatory and ultimately as long as this goes on it's, it is discriminatory to every pool of applicants because you know you already have to, you mentioned this Collar, but you already have to be You know, Harvard doesn't make you pass a physical fitness test.
It doesn't make you get sponsored by your state senator, right?
You have to work really hard to get into these things.
And if you're willing to do all of that, as well as potentially sacrifice for your country, shouldn't you be admitted based on your merit, not based on race?
shane cashman
I grew up on West Point.
This is my home of my whole life.
My parents are still there.
I was raised by these cadets.
They happened to be black and white.
Boy and girl from all over the place.
But that didn't matter.
They were all the most craziest, smartest people I've ever met.
Leaders and really physically strong.
Had to run a certain amount of miles every day.
There'd be certain things that they would have to do, whether it's carrying your books in a certain hand or knowing how many lights are above you, because you've counted them prior days.
And then when you're asked, you need to know how many lights are above you.
Stuff like that.
Over the years though, some of those things have started to fall away.
So you can't, let's say, they call it pinging, which is you have to walk around in the summer when you're wearing your shorts.
Your socks would be all the way up to your knees.
That's pinging.
And you'd be hazed if you weren't pinging your socks.
That's gone away.
There was something kind of nice about the hazing, I thought.
Not to a certain degree.
Obviously, it can get really bad, but the hazing kind of built a camaraderie and also made you on point for every day that you were there.
But now, because my parents are still there, I've seen that these kids are just soft gamers who deal with everything.
tim pool
Freshman Hell Week at my high school that I went to for a few months.
And once everybody knew when it was, the freshman just didn't show up.
shane cashman
Right.
tim pool
That's like a fucked up thing.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
But whatever, I don't give a shit.
unidentified
Fuck that school.
brandon straka
I think there's a piece to this too that we're not really identifying, which is particularly when you're talking about something like the military.
I didn't join the military and I'm not from a military family, but I mean, it's always kind of been my understanding that pretty much on like day one, when you enter the military, Your individual identity ceases to exist and it's really about you becoming a part of a unit and part of a chain of command.
And what they're doing essentially is prioritizing identity.
And so they're saying the chain of command in a way doesn't really exist anymore.
It's your blackness and your transness and your individual identity and the way that you see yourself and perceive yourself now kind of supersedes all things in a way.
That should be the last priority for them.
Like, look, if we're going to have DEI at all, I mean, maybe it should be in circumstances where we can actually learn about each other's cultures in an environment where it's appropriate.
You know, what is it like to grow up on the West Coast versus the East Coast?
What's it like to grow up?
You know what I mean?
There might be times where that would be valuable information.
When you join the military, it's unimportant.
I don't care if you're rich.
I don't care if you're poor.
I don't care what the color of your skin is or your gender.
tim pool
Rich and poor both matter.
brandon straka
I'm just saying that I think that you're supposed to shed your identity and your identity becomes about protecting the United States of America.
tim pool
So, actually, the military considers your wealth for two reasons.
If you're in massive debt, you're a security risk.
You might sell secrets or try and make money to cover your liabilities.
And if you're too rich, you will disregard orders and eventually buy your way out.
shane cashman
I agree, but that probably doesn't apply as much to the cadets who are coming out of high school.
tim pool
It does.
shane cashman
100% does.
You think? Because I feel like they have to write to the congressman.
tim pool
There have been many people who have enlisted and then their wealthy parents changed the rules,
got them special privileges, or got them out or things like that.
shane cashman
And this is just my experience, so it doesn't mean it's the truth at all.
But I noticed that a lot of kids who were second or third generation West Point kids, meaning their parents went and their grandparents went, sometimes they didn't take it as seriously as the kids who were the first generation.
And some of those families had lots of money because they were like generals and stuff like that.
But yeah, I don't know.
I'm thinking about this and I think about how didn't Mattis even defend teaching critical race theory at West Point?
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
Two or three years ago.
brandon straka
That's the thing.
It's never just the super, it's never just checking boxes and saying like, you know, I want to see X number of black faces and X number of whatever.
The next step, there's always the next step and always the next step.
And then it becomes, well, having to get up at 5 a.m.
is racist.
That's, you know, this group of people isn't used to doing that.
shane cashman
Functuation, right?
brandon straka
Ironing your uniform is racist.
tim pool
My favorite thing is like, uh, The dress code rules the army has and there's a difference between the rules.
I don't want to I don't want to speak out of turn, but I just you know my brief experiences There are certain ways everyone is expected to dress, but there's actual codified rule they're not the same and so I think it's something like Your belt has to be above your belly button or something, because the rule was made back in the 40s or whatever, but nobody does that anymore.
Now everyone's basically improperly wearing a uniform.
hannah claire brimelow
It has to be a quarter inch above or below your belly button, and you can opt to wear it just above.
tim pool
Exactly.
And so you look goofy with it pulled real high, but if they yell at you for it, they're breaking the rules.
Anyway, was that sufficient, sir?
serge du preez
Yeah, I hope that was enough there.
unidentified
No, thanks for the answers.
I thought that was a great discussion and I appreciate you having me on once again.
tim pool
Thanks for calling in.
hannah claire brimelow
Thanks for reading Scanner.
It's the best.
serge du preez
Thanks, mate.
Alright, we got a big one here.
Sniper493, you are live.
How are you?
unidentified
Doing good, doing good.
Thank you for listening.
This is actually my first call in.
tim pool
Right on.
unidentified
So this is actually a question for the whole crew and it's a white pill question.
Amelia's plane might have been found.
tim pool
Amelia Earhart?
unidentified
And her achievements that she has done.
tim pool
I thought they already found it.
I thought it was like she washed up on some island and they found her bones.
serge du preez
Yeah, that's what I thought too.
I didn't think so.
hannah claire brimelow
There was a report this week with someone saying like they have a theory about where it went, right?
I'm looking at our spooky paranormal thing.
shane cashman
I don't want to, because I am typically the white pill person, but I'm just like this is probably a fake one.
hannah claire brimelow
But did you see that report?
Do you know anything about it?
shane cashman
No, I had not seen this.
unidentified
Deep sea visions.
Wow.
um, which is government funded, but did sonar images and they have an image
that they picked up that looks like it might be her Lockheed 10 E Electra.
Huh?
serge du preez
Wow.
And where is this?
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
Did they say where?
unidentified
Let me see.
serge du preez
They didn't say where.
They just found it and they're like, yeah, we're not going to tell anybody.
unidentified
It's a secret.
serge du preez
It's like Texas.
shane cashman
What if someone built it and then put it there and then they found it?
hannah claire brimelow
I also feel like this is bad timing to bring up Amelia Earhart given all of the stuff around diversity, higher pilots and all women.
unidentified
Near Howland Island.
shane cashman
Okay.
serge du preez
Howland Island.
shane cashman
Okay.
Interesting.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
I just, again.
She's not the female pilot I would invoke right now.
tim pool
You know what's really funny?
How many works of fiction have her depicted as being abducted by aliens?
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
It's like, dude, she crashed.
What the fuck?
Like, there's no big mystery.
It's like, she crashed.
I don't know, whatever.
shane cashman
What if the aliens made her crash?
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like aliens would be better right now.
Again, we'll see, but...
tim pool
She landed in Japan and lived a long life.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
That's right.
hannah claire brimelow
Also, what if she was just like, bye guys, I don't want to be a female pilot anymore.
And then she couldn't, she couldn't tell anyone.
So she had to just like retreat.
brandon straka
So she had to kill herself because she didn't want to be a female pilot anymore?
hannah claire brimelow
And it's secretly, and she's like living in Siberia, being like, I just can't get back on the plane.
brandon straka
So you're saying she's still alive.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, I have no idea.
tim pool
Well, like Captain America.
brandon straka
I thought you were saying she intentionally crashed the plane because she didn't want to be a female pilot anymore.
unidentified
No, she didn't.
tim pool
No, no, no, the plane, the plane crashed.
Uh, and then she went underwater where she froze, like Captain America, and she'll be thawed out, waking up in this strange new world.
hannah claire brimelow
Let's do that.
What if she reversed Ariel, and she went down and was saved by very handsome Merman, and, like, converted to living under seas?
serge du preez
Yeah, she became the ghost of Kiev years later.
tim pool
Oh, anyway, I don't know what else to say about it.
hannah claire brimelow
Fun conversation.
shane cashman
With these stories, it's like, if they come out and tell me they found the Malaysian flight, I don't even think I'd believe that.
That's how skeptical I am of everything.
I know that's a problem.
serge du preez
We know.
shane cashman
I know, but like, how could we?
unidentified
How could we?
shane cashman
Because there's also reports of people, a really, I forget who his name was, big company, buying almost an exact replica of that plane that went missing six months before it went missing.
So, you know, it's...
It's hard to know anything is real anymore.
brandon straka
I feel like Helen Keller was involved.
shane cashman
Yes.
So you're saying she's a psyop too?
brandon straka
Absolutely.
hannah claire brimelow
And she was just faking everything?
brandon straka
Or she wasn't faking everything and she was flying the plane.
shane cashman
That's why it crashed.
hannah claire brimelow
Again, not a good season for female players.
shane cashman
Did not expect to get a Helen Keller impersonation tonight.
unidentified
That's awesome.
shane cashman
Flying a plane.
hannah claire brimelow
That's what I want to see.
Guys, thanks for this question.
unidentified
That was fun.
serge du preez
Yeah, that was a good one.
shane cashman
See, it was a white pill in and of itself.
We're all happy and laughing now, so thank you.
unidentified
Okay.
Take care, guys.
Thank you again, and have a great night.
brandon straka
Have a good one tonight.
serge du preez
Likewise.
hannah claire brimelow
What a fun first call-in.
serge du preez
Hope to hear your call-in soon.
Yeah.
Scuba Steve, you are alive.
How are you?
unidentified
Hey, doing good.
How are you all doing?
Thanks for having me on again.
Good, man.
serge du preez
Right on, bro.
Anytime.
unidentified
I got a little bit of a darker but a fun question for the whole group just to see what y'all would think.
So what fictional dystopian future from literature, games, or film do you believe bears the closest resemblance to our current geopolitical landscape?
And what aspects of that dystopia do you see mirrored in our own reality and how can we learn from the different lessons and parallels and navigate the challenges of potential pitfalls in our present political climate?
brandon straka
Did you read that off paper?
unidentified
I wrote it down on a note.
tim pool
It's all of them.
It really is.
We're being spied on.
We're in the Panopticon.
There's collective censorship of information.
We're being drugged to keep us happy.
Insert all of them.
You got Viva Vendetta and then you got a pandemic.
I mean, come on!
Manufactured virus in a lab?
shane cashman
World War Z. World War Z. It does seem like they took a little bit of the best stuff.
We're in the best of version of dystopias.
Because yeah, I'm trying to think of that movie.
It's an old sci-fi movie where everyone has to kill themselves at a certain age.
tim pool
Logan's Run.
shane cashman
Logan's Run.
Logan's Run, yeah.
Because even that to some degree is like how people are sacrificing themselves now, whether it's the maid program.
tim pool
Where's the dystopia where the government starts mass sex changing everybody?
unidentified
That was our original thought.
hannah claire brimelow
There's a documentary on this on Amazon Prime and they were saying at a certain point like their whole thing was like I'll help you find your soulmate and then they weren't it wasn't working and so they started being like because it was predominantly women they would go to someone and be like actually your spirit is male so you should transition and then we'll marry off to this lady because that way our premise works.
shane cashman
Well, for me, I would say the one way that I've navigated this dystopian landscape is I believe in God, and I didn't believe in God for most of my life.
And God has at least, or at most, given me an anchor in a non-reality where nothing and everything can be true.
hannah claire brimelow
So you're sympathetic to Gilead then?
The thing is, I've been watching Handmaid's Tale for the first time.
I'm super late to this, but I have to say, some rough stuff, but Gilead doesn't always seem so bad to me.
I'm a Gilead sympathizer in some ways.
Again, not everything.
Some of it's not good.
But, you know, it is interesting to see dystopians where you're like, the world I'm living in right now has some really dark stuff too.
I don't necessarily want this entire world, but there are definitely changes.
There are things that I don't like about Gilead.
tim pool
What are the moral failings of Gilead?
hannah claire brimelow
You know, I think the forced handmaid thing is a little tricky.
tim pool
What does that mean, forced handmaid?
That's leftist propaganda.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, that's fair.
tim pool
Women like being moms.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, but that's the thing.
It's actually, you have to convince them about the surrogacy.
They run into issues when the handmaids get attached.
tim pool
For real though, what in The Handmaid's Tale was depicted as Gilead being bad?
hannah claire brimelow
I understand women have to have kids, but like, And the men are like, they all have like the Jezebel's thing, so they're actually all hypocritical.
I mean, like negatives, whatever, but their water is clean, their birth rate is up.
I mean, some stuff is like, and they all wear these gorgeous capes.
I mean, I just don't understand.
shane cashman
You're sold on these capes.
hannah claire brimelow
I love capes.
This is a whole niche fashion podcast that I'm in, but yeah, there are some negatives for sure.
I didn't like it when they would like cut off Panmate's eyes and stuff, negative.
But again, something is working.
brandon straka
I still haven't watched it.
hannah claire brimelow
Look, let me tell you, there are some characters that I just... And also, I'm really wrecking this question for this caller, but I just found that, like, June Osborn is just, like, she becomes more and more horrible the whole time.
So, she really did not sell me on this, like, weird America, Canada, other world.
She's your lead and I don't like her.
brandon straka
So you're into it?
hannah claire brimelow
I think we should consider Gilead as a philosophical- No, no, you're into watching the show.
brandon straka
You're enjoying it.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I don't watch a lot of stuff, but I got into this- I had time off around Christmas and I started watching it.
Again, I remember being in an internship after college when this came out and people being like, FEMINISM!
But it is, like, not a good- I think the feminists got this all wrong, you know?
So, I highly recommend it right now.
But you have to remember that they want you to hate Gilead and you really can't.
serge du preez
Sorry, I'm so sorry.
Well, Scoobasieve, I hope that was at least something of an answer somewhere.
unidentified
Yeah, it sounds like the greatest hits of Dystopian Future is where we're at.
Sweet.
Quick before I hop off, you guys mentioned Mattis earlier.
I highly recommend if you haven't seen it, there's a video of him arguing with Kamala Harris.
Pull that baby up and watch it because it's great because it's talking about recruiting Marines and stuff like that.
hannah claire brimelow
Cool.
shane cashman
Awesome.
Thanks for that.
serge du preez
Yeah, thanks.
unidentified
All right.
brandon straka
Out.
serge du preez
Cheers.
shane cashman
That was an awesome question, though.
serge du preez
Yeah, that was great.
shane cashman
I like to sit with that question.
serge du preez
Yeah, that was a good one.
shane cashman
I feel like I want to really think on that some more.
serge du preez
We should have a show where we get to dig deep on these questions sometimes, you know?
But that's actually what they do on the Discord to shout out anyone else that doesn't check out the later shows on Discord.
They actually go through with the people that call in, and then they actually have them ask any more questions with people that are watching, etc.
It's freaking amazing.
Yeah, it's really quite cool.
It's so industrious.
hannah claire brimelow
The Discord is incredible.
serge du preez
It is.
USMCBert, hello.
How are you?
unidentified
What's going on?
What's up?
serge du preez
Just hanging out at work, man.
You know.
unidentified
But first of all, Tim, your sex change dystopia is probably Cyberpunk 2077.
Can you do that in there?
serge du preez
Yeah, I get a whole bunch of gender swaps and stuff.
What about like forced?
I don't know.
I don't know about forced.
I don't think you can.
unidentified
My question is, you guys were talking about the illegals joining the military and everything, and I've been reading The Prince by Machiavelli again.
serge du preez
Oh, nice.
That's a good one.
unidentified
He has an entire chapter dedicated to that, and that is how one of the main reasons a nation will fall and a prince will lose his power, by outsourcing his military.
Aw.
I highly recommend you all pick it up.
It's only like eight bucks and I think it's free on audible, but what do you guys think about that?
And the use of outside forces and mercenaries that can just be bought off by China.
shane cashman
It seems plausible and horrific.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
Well stated.
We're already watered down.
We don't have an army.
Our population is a mess.
hannah claire brimelow
It's because our population doesn't feel united.
I was listening to... Biden spoke at the National Prayer Breakfast this morning and he's talking about all these international... I'm not against praying for Ukraine, praying for Israel.
Those are not necessarily horrible sentiments, but then at the end he's like...
I've always said that we need to see each other not as enemies but as Americans.
You want to be like you're one of the most divisive people.
You're constantly driving divide.
You can't just pay lip service to the idea of unity.
You need to promote a national culture that encourages unity.
There is a reason that older generations saw it as their duty to sacrifice for their country and younger generations don't.
There is a reason that younger generations say things like, well I didn't choose to be alive.
This is a very pessimistic and selfish culture and I think That is one of the reasons that we ultimately say, well, somebody else can serve in the military.
I'm not going to do it.
shane cashman
Can we rewind real quick?
Did you say that Biden spoke at the prayer?
They'd let him, they'd let him pray?
hannah claire brimelow
Uh, at least let him talk.
I don't know if it counts as a prayer if you're just delivering remarks.
unidentified
How'd he sound?
shane cashman
Did you watch or listen?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I watched.
He sounds slurred.
Uh, I mean, it's just the way it is, but he also spoke last year.
Like this is something presidents do every year.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
What if on Super Tuesday, like Biden croaks?
shane cashman
Who do they install?
hannah claire brimelow
Kamala Harris is like, here we go, my time to shine.
unidentified
I mean, on another chapter, Machiavelli also has, those who have become princes by crime.
So I kind of feel like that fits all of our politicians.
serge du preez
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
It's a timeless book.
I remember reading that in like maybe freshman year of college and being like, it's kind of tough read, but there is a wisdom to this, uh, that I should probably pay attention to.
serge du preez
Like that one, 48 laws of power and, uh, how to win friends.
No, not art of war.
I read that one later on, but how to win friends and influence people were books I read in like the first year or two out of, out of high school and in university, 2010, 2011.
And those books, uh, helped me do a lot of things.
shane cashman
Yeah.
Do you think they still teach Machiavellian in college these days?
serge du preez
Dude, I doubt it.
I doubt it.
It's too dark.
The material is just too dark.
The things that you talked about are just too dark to handle.
It's just too mean, bro.
shane cashman
You think they would though, because they love power so much.
serge du preez
I know, right?
You think power dynamics would be all they would talk about, but they don't, unfortunately.
I doubt it at least.
Um, yeah.
Right on.
shane cashman
That was awesome.
unidentified
Was that good?
tim pool
Was that good, sir?
serge du preez
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Thanks for calling in.
unidentified
Yup.
serge du preez
All right, man.
Cheers.
Yeah, that's it.
tim pool
Mr. Bocas is just chilling.
unidentified
He is.
tim pool
Over with Shane.
shane cashman
He's kind of so sweet.
tim pool
Having a good time.
Brandon, thanks for hanging out, man.
brandon straka
Thanks for having me.
tim pool
Been a blast.
brandon straka
It was good to see you guys.
shane cashman
It was awesome.
hannah claire brimelow
It was so fun.
tim pool
And thank you to everybody who is a member.
And for all the love and the shout outs to Mr. Bocus, who is enjoying a good regal massage from Shane.
He's having a good time.
shane cashman
Purring away.
tim pool
He's purring away.
He's got those claws getting ready.
shane cashman
I know.
I'm a little afraid.
We're chillin'.
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