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Dec. 24, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| Michael is grabbing some... | ||
| Delicious almonds. | ||
| I'm putting them inside of me. | ||
| He's putting them inside of him, he says. | ||
| I got a question I wanted to ask you guys on the show. | ||
| What the fuck is up with this Flatters shit? | ||
| Is there a new development? | ||
| I love the idea that Ian has to ask us about a crazy theory. | ||
| Ian, of all the people, if someone walked in the room and said, who is most likely to have an answer about some weird theory, it's you. | ||
| Is it real? | ||
| Is there anything to it? | ||
| No. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I had Alex Jones on my show last week, and one of the questions from the fans was, because I had a local section, what conspiracy or whatever wacky theory do you think is most unlikely? | ||
| Alex Jones said flat Earth. | ||
| Oh yeah, it's just the argument for flat Earth is that the Earth is accelerating at a certain meters per second, creating the sensation of gravity. | ||
| I sat next to a flat Earther on a plane once, and it was really weird to have a plane just while we're like in the air. | ||
| They also say that the other planets aren't flat. | ||
| It's not like all the planets are flat. | ||
| It's only the earth, which is hilarious. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| And also like, he said, this is the conspiracy theory that of all things on earth affects my life the least. | ||
| It's like, okay, if it's true, then why? | ||
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Who cares? | |
| Well, the reality is that not only is the earth hollow, it's also flat. | ||
| It's called donut earth theory. | ||
| I heard that, yeah. | ||
| Donut earth. | ||
| You wanted a monologue on why you don't owe Roseanne money. | ||
| I don't want a monologue. | ||
| I had an imaginary argument. | ||
| Okay, so you imagined a... Argument. | ||
| Let me into your head. | ||
| You have to play both parts and do a different voice. | ||
| Oh, I got it. | ||
| I got it. | ||
| So there was an episode... So the bet I had with Roseanne was... We had two bets. | ||
| Everyone's always focused on the second bet. | ||
| The first bet was that there were going to be mass arrests by the end of the year. | ||
| So let's see if I can collect from her. | ||
| The second bet was... And I felt like... I feel like I'm in, like, Bizarro World. | ||
| Because there was an episode of The Office And they're all arguing about whether someone's hot. | ||
| I think it was Jennifer Garner, right? | ||
| Helen Mirren. | ||
| No, Hilary Swank. | ||
| Hilary Swank. | ||
| And Kevin was the swing vote, the dumb character. | ||
| And eventually he goes, he says, he votes for no. | ||
| And the hockey say goes, because the question is, is she hot? | ||
| Not would I do her? | ||
| Right. | ||
| So the question is, are they going to cancel the election? | ||
| Right. | ||
| If Trump is kicked off the ballot through some mechanism, that's not the same thing as canceling an election. | ||
| If it's DeSantis versus Biden, if it's Nikki Haley versus Biden, that's not the same question as, is Trump going to be allowed to be the nominee? | ||
| So when everyone's like, oh, you all raised a thousand dollars, even if they succeed in kicking him off the ballot, that's not canceling the election. | ||
| I asked for this clarification on the show. | ||
| I said, do you mean there's not going to be an election like we don't vote? | ||
| Or are you saying that something will interfere in the process by which no one will take it as a serious election? | ||
| And what did she say? | ||
| She said, I think that one. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Which means, if Donald Trump is forced off the ballot, it's not a real election. | ||
| Trump's the frontrunner and the favorite. | ||
| We need to roll back the tapes and listen to this live. | ||
| Yeah, roll back the tapes. | ||
| Because here's the other thing. | ||
| We brought this up on the show for that reason. | ||
| Hold on, here's my other point. | ||
| If the question was, is Trump going to be forced off the ballot, I'm not betting $1,000. | ||
| Because I do not have anything close to the certainty I have that there's going to be an election. | ||
| Which I'm not 100% certain of. | ||
| Which is why We never really clarified, we never really determined what the terms of the bet would be because you were joking. | ||
| I wasn't joking! | ||
| Wait, I wasn't joking at all! | ||
| What the hell? | ||
| Okay, then it's plain and simple, then it's plain and simple. | ||
| No clarification is required. | ||
| There must be a situation in which nobody casts a ballot. | ||
| Not nobody. | ||
| The only situation I can see is if we go to World War 3 and they say, like, emergency lockdown measures like martial law. | ||
| Does that say World War 3? | ||
| It could be just some kind of January 6th and they go, okay, it's over. | ||
| Right, I asked Roseanne if, like, look, people said 2020 was a rigged election, right? | ||
| Are you saying there won't be an election in that... | ||
| Biden declares there's no election because of war, or are you saying there won't be an election in that Trump is forced off the ballot, and then it's some other candidate, and people are like, no, we wanted Trump, this is not a real election? | ||
| Let's suppose- And you said the second one. | ||
| Let's look at 2020, right? | ||
| And let's suppose all the conspiracy theories, it was completely stolen, Trump had a landslide, so on and so forth. | ||
| In that case, would you say it wasn't an election? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| 2020 wasn't an election? | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| You gave me a prerequisite. | ||
| You gave me qualifiers for that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You said, if it were true that it was rigged and Trump actually did win, but they stole it, I would say, well, there's no election, right? | ||
| It was an election. | ||
| It was just a rigged one. | ||
| See, I think you're trying to lawyer me here. | ||
| I'm lawyering. | ||
| You're saying lawyering because I think when I made a bet, words are used precisely. | ||
| And this is why I asked for clarification. | ||
| So let's play the tape. | ||
| So here's my point. | ||
| When people say the election was stolen for Trump, you need to ask them what do they mean by this. | ||
| Because there's several different interpretations. | ||
| Right, there's the Dinesh version, there's the Hemingway version. | ||
| The Hemingway version makes more sense to me. | ||
| Which one is that? | ||
| Meaning that basically they got out their voters and they managed to kind of push away people who would otherwise have voted for Trump. | ||
| And ballot harvesting and all this other shit. | ||
| But there's not just Dinesh's version, there's the Q version too. | ||
| Right, but I'm talking about the Hemingway version is legal, And the numbers are accurate, but they just managed to build up their numbers. | ||
| So, in my view, if the Democrats procedurally outplayed Republicans. | ||
| That's the way I'm looking at it, yes. | ||
| An election did happen. | ||
| Yes, okay. | ||
| If it is that Democrats cheated, I would not call it an election. | ||
| You can call it a fake one. | ||
| You can call it a rigged election. | ||
| So, the point is this. | ||
| We can figure out the legal terms for what your bet entails. | ||
| I'm saying, when you ask your average person Was there an election? | ||
| What they mean is... This is the argument I've got with a lot of people. | ||
| I don't care about the average person, I care about the dictionary. | ||
| And right, so my point is this. | ||
| I feel like you're doing the literal but not serious. | ||
| So, when someone said to me that the election was stolen from Trump, at first I'd just be like, oh come on, he lost. | ||
| And then I'm like, oh, I get it. | ||
| Some people are saying I feel like Trump should have won for a variety of reasons. | ||
| It was stolen from him in that it was his take. | ||
| If the argument is that For these people, what does an election mean? | ||
| It means Donald Trump came out and said, here's why you vote for me. | ||
| And everyone said, you got it, boss. | ||
| And Democrats went, I don't care why you vote for me, just fill out the damn form. | ||
| They would say that wasn't an election. | ||
| Because in their mind, what they mean by election is a process by which two individuals argue for their positions, and then the people will choose who should be their leader. | ||
| My point back was, that's never what elections were. | ||
| But that's what, in their minds, they're defining it as such. | ||
| So, in this case, that's why I asked Roseanne for the clarification. | ||
| Because the idea that Biden would just be like, no elections, bang a gavel, that's never going to happen. | ||
| Never. | ||
| But Tim, that's why I bet her. | ||
| Because the idea that Trump is going to lead mass arrests of pedophiles is also never going to happen, and she bet for that. | ||
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Right. | |
| So you're agreeing with me? | ||
| Of course, absolutely. | ||
| I'm saying, like, I literally asked on the show, we never got a clarification on the rules of the bet because I didn't take it seriously. | ||
| I took it very seriously. | ||
| It's a bet. | ||
| I asked her if it was going to be the nobody votes, like the election is suspended, or is it Democrats pull some bullshit in which there's no formal choosing of who the best candidate is. | ||
| The issue I'm looking at, this'll be fun to adjudicate in real time with Roseanne and you on the show again. | ||
| I think we should do that at the one-year reunion or something like that. | ||
| If you have a full-scale hologram of a house, fully 3D and it looks exactly like a house, but it's a hologram, is it a house? | ||
| No. | ||
| But if you can't verify that it's a hologram, there's no way to verify one or the other, you just see it from a distance. | ||
| I think you're agreeing with me on this one. | ||
| You're- I'm sorry, but I'm- The fact- I said before we got here that I had an imaginary argument with you guys. | ||
| I have to admit, I didn't think we'd get into hologram house analogies. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
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You didn't come prepared. | |
| I didn't come prepared! | ||
| I didn't come prepared! | ||
| If it's legit or not, Ken, then you say that it wasn't legit. | ||
| So if you can't verify, it's not going to be. | ||
| Let me ask you this, in all seriousness. | ||
| Let's suppose all these things happen, right? | ||
| And Trump is kicked off the primary ballots and DeSantis or Haley is the nominee, right? | ||
| And they have the convention, the Republican delegates vote for, let's say Haley, not an election. | ||
| That makes no sense. | ||
| It does. | ||
| It's a flawed election. | ||
| I'm sorry, you do not have a right- I'm talking about August, when the GOP- You do not have- An election doesn't mean whoever wants to be on the ballot in November is on the ballot. | ||
| If not, it's not an election. | ||
| Right, but I feel like your depiction of this is a legalese kind of Yes, I'm speaking precisely. | ||
| That's the way to use words correctly. | ||
| But when we're trying to convey ideas, you need to outline. | ||
| That's what we have contracts for. | ||
| No election, definition of election in any contract is going to say Trump has to be the nominee. | ||
| That wasn't the bet! | ||
| But, right, I agree with you. | ||
| I'm not arguing you're wrong there. | ||
| I'm saying Ian makes a great point about if the election was a hologram, it was not a real election. | ||
| If it's Biden versus Haley, that's not a hologram. | ||
| That would be, okay, so let's, we'll try again. | ||
| If there is a house with walls, and when you walk up to it and open the door, there's actually just framing and nothing else, grass on the ground and framing making a box. | ||
| Is that a house? | ||
| If Haley has a chance, okay, let's suppose there's Trump, it becomes down Haley versus Biden, and Haley wins. | ||
| Was that an election or not? | ||
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| Yeah, so I get what you're saying. | ||
| I would argue in terms of the idea that an election would be the person who makes the best argument and convinces the most people. | ||
| That's not what an election is. | ||
| Election is you have several candidates and whoever gets the most whatever criterion becomes the candidate, holds the office. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| So I understand why you made the bet. | ||
| Because we could, you know what we could do? | ||
| Come, let's say Joe Biden goes, no election! | ||
| Bangs a gavel. | ||
| And then I go, hold on there a minute. | ||
| You can say that Joe Biden, but Tim Poole's holding an election. | ||
| Election happened. | ||
| Sorry, Michael wins. | ||
| But that's not a real election because it's not picking the president. | ||
| We can hold an election president's office right now. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| We could hold an election president right now, three to two, whoever we choose, we declare it. | ||
| Do you know who Emperor Norton is? | ||
| When San Francisco used to be cool. | ||
| Oh, right, right, yeah. | ||
| There was a guy in the 1800s who called himself Emperor Norton, and he said, I'm the Emperor of the United States, and he issued a currency, right? | ||
| And this also didn't make sense the other way around, when the Democrats are like, Trump's not gonna leave office, he's gonna, hold on, it's like, do you think that whoever's in the Oval Office is president? | ||
| If he just locks the door, he could just pass bills, and that makes sense, right? | ||
| That's it, that's all it takes. | ||
| So the president is whoever is in, who's sworn in, who's recognized as such by the federal government. | ||
| That's the confidence of the people. | ||
| Not the people, the government. | ||
| Because a lot of people don't regard Biden as the legitimate president, and a lot of people didn't regard Trump as the legitimate president. | ||
| If 100% of the people outside of government said the government is illegitimate, the government would not have legitimacy. | ||
| Yeah, no, you're talking to the compile the anarchist handbook. | ||
| I know, I agree with you. | ||
| My point is every president in the last however many years had double digit percentage of population who didn't regard them as legitimate, correct? | ||
| So, of course. | ||
| Okay, of course, okay. | ||
| But what matters is the threshold of no confidence has to be very high. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So your argument is actually, not that there will be an election, but that there will be a process by which enough people have confidence the system has maintained itself. | ||
| No. | ||
| The statement is that come November 2024, there will be two or more candidates on the ballot, and people will go to voting booths- Hold on, hold on. | ||
| That's the definition of an election. | ||
| That's not what was asked. | ||
| That was what was asked! | ||
| You're interpreting things that were not part of Roseanne's sentences. | ||
| Do you guys remember what- Roseanne said there will not be an election, and you said, I will bet you a thousand dollars you are wrong. | ||
| I'm trying to find the timestamp on the video. | ||
| Now hold on, if we want to be really, really pedantic, Roseanne didn't say what kind of election. | ||
| It was the horse election. | ||
| She meant election day. | ||
| So my argument is the only thing we can do is try and figure out what the spirit of her statement was because she did not say. | ||
| It's not, I'm sorry, it's not the spirit of her statement. | ||
| You can't add sentences to her sentence. | ||
| You said to- I'm sorry, any contract or bet is an agreement between two parties of which I am one. | ||
| And you are adding words Roseanne did not say to your terms. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| I'm not adding words, I'm defining- You did. | ||
| I'm defining the terms that everyone used because these terms are used universally as the dictionary has them. | ||
| You just said that two people will be voted. | ||
| Well, that's not what I said. | ||
| It's a dictionary definition. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Elections can have more than two people. | ||
| Two or more. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| I'm not saying I lose the bet if there's three people on the ballot. | ||
| There's always 20. | ||
| So we're dealing with Roseanne and you, and we're trying to understand what Roseanne meant by what she said. | ||
| It's also what I meant. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Because we were both parties to this bet. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And what I meant, and what I understood is, her belief, which other people believe, it's not unique to her, is that there will be no voting process. | ||
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Correct. | |
| Yeah, I thought so too. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I believe you are right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We agree. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Right. | ||
| I'm looking for the timestamp. | ||
| We could pull it up. | ||
| I'm sorry I didn't follow the hologram house. | ||
| The hologram house is badass. | ||
| My argument is on the external definition outside of your bet with Roseanne. | ||
| We know what Roseanne likely meant. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But there are people out there who feel an election is, they genuinely thought in 2020 the election was Donald Trump stood up and said here's my argument and they went yes! | ||
| saw everybody agreeing to all the signs and then Biden won and they went, it was stolen | ||
| from him. | ||
| I see what you're saying. | ||
| Oh, I think they're wrong. | ||
| If that, if the election is a process by which people make their arguments and then we choose | ||
| who has the better arguments, Trump won. | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| If the argument is an election is a process by which a bunch of people vote on pieces of paper, and then whoever gets the most pieces of paper wins, Joe Biden won. | ||
| Whoever thinks an election is about who has the better arguments, that's weird. | ||
| You're in a bubble. | ||
| I'm not in a bubble, I'm using English correctly, it's my second language, I have to learn it. | ||
| Whoever gets the most votes. | ||
| Yeah, or electors. | ||
| But there's a colloquial understanding of what people think this country is. | ||
| And what you're arguing is this country is actually dirtier, and the system is much more devious than people realize. | ||
| But that is you as a learned man, and we're talking about salt-of-the-earth people who've never voted before. | ||
| But I'm not making bets with them. | ||
| I'm not talking about your bet. | ||
| I'm talking about how people in this country define election. | ||
| They're so naive then! | ||
| Of course they are! | ||
| They never voted before! | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| Trump, in 2016, 2020, and even now, what we are seeing is most, like a large portion of his base, they don't even know what the voting process is. | ||
| You're right, you're right, you're absolutely right. | ||
| No, no, I concede exactly what you're saying, because I am in a bubble like you're saying, because I'm usually talking to people highly politically addicts. | ||
| Read a lot of books, write a lot of books, study a lot of elections. | ||
| I agree with you, elections have never been this. | ||
| I take it for granted how naive people are about how corrupt it's been for how long. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's... I'm completely naive. | ||
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You're right. | |
| I think when you work in this sphere, it's hard. | ||
| You forget. | ||
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You're absolutely right. | |
| You have to like hold on to all of your friends. | ||
| You're absolutely right. | ||
| You're absolutely right. | ||
| Totally conceded. | ||
| And I think you're right on your bet with Roseanne. | ||
| We all know Roseanne was basically saying, military tribunals and no election. | ||
| It's like, okay. | ||
| I think I found the timestamp on the video. | ||
| If you guys want to pull it up and watch the tape. | ||
| It's about 57 minutes on the episode. | ||
| But the issue was there was like 10 or 15 minutes later. | ||
| I said, what do you mean, Roseanne? | ||
| Are you saying... It was a long conversation. | ||
| But I think it's fine because I think everyone agrees. | ||
| Roseanne was saying there would be no, like, process and polls. | ||
| Which was an extreme claim, but I thought she was kind of like... It's gonna be funny when she's right and you have to pay her. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Honestly, if that happens, my $1,000 is the least of my concerns. | ||
| I'm not even kidding. | ||
| I'll give her $1,000. | ||
| If that happens, like, you've earned that $1,000 and I've got bigger things to worry about. | ||
| It's gonna be funny because it's like... | ||
| It would be a great skit you guys could film where you're like sitting in like this post-apocalyptic shithole and you're like, your clothes are all tattered and there's gunfire and you're like, oh, Roseanne, and you pull out a thousand bucks and say, what am I gonna buy with this? | ||
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I almost forgot, here you go, it's the money I owe you. | |
| It's Trump bucks. | ||
| Our last precedent. | ||
| So, I'll tell you about Dylan Mulvaney. | ||
| Yeah, please. | ||
| Dylan Mulvaney spoke at, was it UPenn? | ||
| Empty Seats, yeah. | ||
| Right, because Dylan Mulvaney is a product of an algorithm no one cares about. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, you ever see a freak show? | ||
| It's okay to say yes, it's the Adler Show. | ||
| I see one now! | ||
| Why is it that people want to see Siamese twins and the bearded lady? | ||
| Conjoined twins! | ||
| No, I'm talking about the original Siamese twins. | ||
| You racist! | ||
| Chang and Eng were their names. | ||
| Yes, and they would go to the freak show and they would see the quote-unquote Siamese twins. | ||
| I was using a proper noun, not a pejorative. | ||
| Why did people want to see this? | ||
| Because people want to gawk. | ||
| Dylan Mulvaney is sterilizing himself, surgically altering himself, while there are people online who don't care and don't like it going like, Do more! | ||
| Now cut your nose off! | ||
| Oh fuck, he's doing it! | ||
| That's Dylan Mulvaney. | ||
| There's a couple in, I think, Norway, and it's two girls, they're a lesbian couple, and one of them is carrying the other's baby, then they're gonna switch, and the other one's gonna carry the other person's baby, and, you know, maybe they have a lot of supporters who are like- That's so weird, you have to take drugs to do that. | ||
| They went through, publicly, through several rounds of IVF, they would give all these, like, you know, your HCG level rises, they miscarry at one point, like, this is what people are watching. | ||
| They also, like, decorate their house, they like pastel colors, you know. | ||
| But there is a certain level of people being like, your life is very weird and unusual and I want to stare. | ||
| Michael, are you mad that Del Mulvaney sterilized himself? | ||
| No, I could not possibly care less. | ||
| This reminds me of this video I saw once. | ||
| It was a Canadian reporter. | ||
| He went back to North Korea and he's talking to his two guys. | ||
| They always have two guys because they watch each other. | ||
| And it's at the ostrich ranch outside Pyongyang. | ||
| And there are these ostriches, and he's talking to the old guy. | ||
| The guy's like in his 50s, Korean man. | ||
| And he goes, hey, remember last time I was here, I talked to you guys about gays and lesbians? | ||
| Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And he's like, well, what about bisexuals? | ||
| And the North Korean guy's just like, what? | ||
| And it's just like, what? | ||
| Lesbians have each other? | ||
| What now? | ||
| Fine, cut off your nose, I don't care. | ||
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The lesbians are caring each other's babies. | |
| I'm wondering why it is I should care that liberals are sterilizing themselves. | ||
| Because it's encouraging young men and women to follow suit. | ||
| Right, but like otherwise be safe self-correcting problem. | ||
| It's not self-correcting because a lot of when I'm a little older than you when I was a kid | ||
| I'd say like a good majority of the females that I that I went to school with | ||
| Went through an eating disorder at some point in their life and it's not fun | ||
| But then they grow out of it and it's like it's like a rite of passage for teenage girls is very very common | ||
| Now those girls with body issues start taking testosterone getting double mastectomies. Yep and | ||
| And you can't undo that. | ||
| You can gain weight from anorexia. | ||
| You can be like, what was I thinking? | ||
| Now I've dealt with my issues, I feel comfortable with my own body. | ||
| That's the big difference. | ||
| And if you ever, there was no, the culture was preaching thinness, but the culture wasn't literally preaching anorexia. | ||
| But let me clarify, right? | ||
| I agree, children shouldn't be allowed to undergo these procedures. | ||
| I'm talking about teenagers. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, I agree. | ||
| Minors. | ||
| Yeah, but the thing is, allowed, it's very easy to get these hormones. | ||
| We completely agree. | ||
| Minors should not be doing this stuff. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Why should I care that liberals, 18 and over, are sterilizing themselves? | ||
| Oh, what I'm saying is because a lot of these teenagers look at these liberals as role models. | ||
| So we should stop like Domovany from sterilizing themselves because a young person might do it too. | ||
| No, we should. | ||
| I don't know who we is in this context. | ||
| Culturally. | ||
| I'm just saying it's dangerous when people like this are championed, especially without any talk about what the costs are, even the cost of just taking hormones, because everyone understands bodybuilders on testosterone, just steroids, women in pregnancy with their estrogen spiking will affect their psychology. | ||
| They don't even give women the answers about the effect of birth control. | ||
| So we're going to go even further with more experimental hormone dosing for people who are minors. | ||
| I mean, it's crazy. | ||
| And that also speaks to the thing about no trade-offs. | ||
| It's like if the point had been the birth control pill is a good thing, but here are the costs, that would be a more honest conversation. | ||
| But in our culture, if something is good, to imply there's a cost to it or something bad with it, it completely blows up in your face. | ||
| It's so crazy. | ||
| I think more and more data is coming out showing that in the next couple generations, this country is going to be overwhelmingly conservative. | ||
| I don't, I think conservatism is dying out. | ||
| Well, it's going to be like us. | ||
| Right of center. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's not the same thing. | ||
| If you look at what just happened in the Netherlands, where Geert Wilders came in, now the traditional right of center party has collapsed in the polls. | ||
| If you look at what's happening in the UK, Nigel Farage's reform party is creeping up and taking over the Tories, which has been the right of center party for over a century. | ||
| Like there's a big transition happening, pun intended. | ||
| A friend of mine was hanging out and she brought a friend of hers, who is a lesbian from, or maybe bi, but you know, she was into ladies, from the Netherlands. | ||
| And it was fascinating having this conversation because my friend, American liberal, her friend, Dutch LGBT, me, American, I would argue centrist or whatever, but they can say whatever they want to say. | ||
| An orthodox thinker. How about that? | ||
| And I was almost completely aligned with the lesbian from the Netherlands. | ||
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Of course. | |
| She said, people are sick and tired of them immigrants. | ||
| They're everywhere. They're sleeping in front of our buildings. | ||
| They're getting public services that we don't get. | ||
| And it's making our costs go up and everyone's very angry about it. | ||
| And then all the LGBT stuff is just everywhere. | ||
| It's in your face no matter what you want. | ||
| And I was like, wait, but you're gay. | ||
| And she was like, I know, but like at a certain point, we just want to be left alone, but they're putting it on everything and we're not asking them to do it. | ||
| Now people are mad at us. | ||
| And I was like, yeah, that sounds about right. | ||
| That's like what we're talking about. | ||
| If I saw posters that said straight is great. | ||
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No, I'd be so annoyed. | |
| It would be like you walking around and everything's about Korean culture. | ||
| It's like, okay, I get it. | ||
| But it's just like, like literally everything's got to be about Korea. | ||
| It should be annoying. | ||
| Best Korea. | ||
| Everybody should wear those little, little suits. | ||
| No, I'm saying if we do it on, if we do it on Teespring, we'll get banned. | ||
| But we can make them on our own. | ||
| Just show a man or woman kissing? | ||
| I know what I'm getting all of you for Christmas. | ||
| No, no, just straight is great. | ||
| Even though I am straight? | ||
| No, I'm saying if we do it on TeeSpring we'll get banned. | ||
| But we can make them on our own. | ||
| And just show a man or woman kissing? | ||
| I know what I'm getting all of you for Christmas now. | ||
| No, just straight is great. | ||
| For the holidays. | ||
| Well, I observe Christmas, but I will give it for you for whatever holiday you prefer. | ||
| I celebrate Kwanzaa. | ||
| Have you seen the Magical Negro movie trailer? | ||
| I have, yes. | ||
| The most dangerous animal is white people? | ||
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Wow. | |
| Let's go to callers. | ||
| Let's go to callers. | ||
| Thanks, Obama, for that one. | ||
| Thanks, Obama. | ||
| Yeah, thanks, Barack. | ||
| I think people stopped saying that. | ||
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I don't know why they did. | |
| I will say it all the time. | ||
| I'll bring it back for Kwanzaa. | ||
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I said a lot. | |
| Brian. | ||
| Should I tweet, straight is great, and then quote Ian? | ||
| Well, I, I get an, I would get annoyed if that was, if I saw that all over the place, but that's the culture jam. | ||
| But let's jam on Friday. | ||
| Brian, suspected retard. | ||
| Uh, how are you? | ||
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You are on the air. | |
| Uh, yes, sir. | ||
| Uh, thanks Serge. | ||
| Uh, thanks Tim, crew, HCB. | ||
| Always glad to be on with you. | ||
| Uh, yeah, I'll get right into it. | ||
| I got a question for the whole panel. | ||
| If Trump is taking off the Colorado GOP primary ballot, if this is allowed to stand, is this game over for Trump 2024? | ||
| No. | ||
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Conversely, if this is taking skids and they overturn it, does that mean all the federal and state charges related to January 6th against Trump become moot? | |
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Tremendously. | ||
| The SCOTUS just says, hey, you don't have the right to overrule constitutional requirements. | ||
| Next question. | ||
| Has nothing to do with whether Trump can be indicted, convicted, charged, or whatever. | ||
| So, and Colorado is not a state Trump needs to win to win the primary. | ||
| But if like 20 states did it, it might affect Trump, for sure. | ||
| Or maybe like 7 states, but for now it's just a potential cascade effect if other states start using this as precedence. | ||
| And I think Michael's right, it's a trial balloon. | ||
| But more importantly, it's what we're seeing is one state tries something and then fails. | ||
| Or like, they throw it out there. | ||
| New Mexico, with the guns. | ||
| Well, oh yeah, especially. | ||
| But no, I mean in terms of removing Trump, a bunch of states have tried it and slowly pushed forward a little bit every time. | ||
| They're trying to normalize it because if they came out from the get-go and said, Trump's been banned from all the ballots, riots, chaos. | ||
| So what they're doing is... Boiling the frog. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Very, very slowly, you know, they're removing Trump. | ||
| Colorado doesn't matter, it's a blue state. | ||
| Then California doesn't matter, it's a blue state. | ||
| But eventually it's Ohio. | ||
| And here's something else. | ||
| If you're arguing whether he should be on the ballot or not, they basically snuck in the premise that you agree that he's an insurrectionist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So the argument isn't any more about whether insurrectionists should be on the ballot. | ||
| See, people should watch Dr. Stone. | ||
| You know who Dr. Stone is? | ||
| No. | ||
| Anime, where... Anime, oh god. | ||
| Oh yeah, you're so, you know, clueless, Michael. | ||
| Everybody's petrified for some mysterious reason, and then thousands of years later, this high school science prodigy awakens and starts to rebuild society. | ||
| And so it's basically a magic school bus for Japanese kids. | ||
| But one of the, it's a really great point. | ||
| There's a character in it named Gan, who's a mentalist. | ||
| And so when they start resurrecting certain people, what the show is basically doing is explaining basic things about science in a fun way where it's like, we're gonna make gunpowder. | ||
| And then he like mixes bat shit and you know, potassium, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| And so there's an issue where they have a secret base, the bad guy finds them. | ||
| And the bad guy's like, I'm gonna kill all of you right now. | ||
| Or maybe I shouldn't. | ||
| I don't know what to do. | ||
| And the character, Gan, starts negotiating with him, and does a bunch of clever tactics, and then narrates how to manipulate people and what he's doing. | ||
| And so, the first point of the conversation is, should I kill you, or should I force you to serve me? | ||
| In the process of negotiation, it comes to a point where he says, clearly, we here are on par with you, and our sorcery, science, is much more powerful than your skills, but your skills could kill us. | ||
| Therefore, we'll work together, we'll accomplish our goals, and then we split the rewards 50-50. | ||
| And he goes, pfft, 50-50? | ||
| I get all the rewards. | ||
| We'll work together, but I get everything. | ||
| And he goes, oh, Drat, you got me. | ||
| And then he explains, I moved the goalposts from, should I kill you and take everything? | ||
| Or should you serve me to, we'll work together, but do I get it all or do I get half? | ||
| And so actually the guy arguing he gets all the rewards was in fact the manipulation to trick him into not killing them. | ||
| They explain all that, I love this, it's a good show. | ||
| It's very fun. | ||
| But that's the point. | ||
| Shifting the narrative away from, can you move Donald Trump to, Is he an insurrectionist or is he not? | ||
| One of the things I love when I argue national divorce is when people are like, well, how would it work? | ||
| Who would get the nukes? | ||
| I'm like, if we're arguing over the details, I've sold you the car. | ||
| Right? | ||
| But it's true. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's a classic sales technique. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| If you're the used car dealership and you're like, I don't know, I really want this in red. | ||
| It's like he's got you. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And it's like, OK, we can make this work. | ||
| We can paint it for you for free. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For free. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Wow. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Any color. | ||
| We'll throw in a free paint job. | ||
| Yeah, we'll make it red. | ||
| And a CD player. | ||
| Showing my age. | ||
| CD player. | ||
| I feel like those are probably trendy right now. | ||
| You never know with it. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| I was watching like, I think I'm watching It's Always Sunny Again. | ||
| I'm on like season 11. | ||
| And there's an episode where they go to a video store and I was like, fuck off. | ||
| Come on guys. | ||
| What year was that? | ||
| It was like four years ago. | ||
| No, but I think that was the whole point. | ||
| It was like retro. | ||
| No, a movie was coming out and they were they were beefing with the McPoyles. | ||
| The McPoyles bought the video store so they couldn't rent their movie. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| OK, I assumed it was a kind of throwback. | ||
| Yeah, I used to during 2008 when I was in West Virginia, I would go to a video store that was near me because it was there and it was interesting because of small business. | ||
| But what he told me was actually he gets a lot of business because areas where there isn't reliable Internet. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| So I think, well, this was West Virginia. | ||
| So I think there actually are more video stores than we believe. | ||
| Like there was that documentary about the last Let's wrap up this caller, Brian. | ||
| Blockbuster. | ||
| Blockbuster. | ||
| That was in like a suburb. | ||
| I have a really good idea. | ||
| I think Royal Air is probably keeping video alive. | ||
| Did I ever tell you my really good idea? | ||
| What? | ||
| Let me... | ||
| Hologram house? | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Let's wrap up this call. | ||
| Is there a house? | ||
| Is there not? | ||
| Let's wrap up this call. | ||
| Brian. | ||
| Yes, Brian, anything else to add? | ||
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No, thanks. | |
| You guys addressed my question, and I know it was kind of redundant because you talked about it a lot last night. | ||
| God bless you, Brian. | ||
| Thanks for calling in. | ||
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Thanks for taking my call, and I appreciate y'all, and good night. | |
| Appreciate it. | ||
| Creative Trader in the chat says Thundergun. | ||
| That is correct. | ||
| They wanted to rent Thundergun. | ||
| I think it was like part two or something. | ||
| So here's my idea. | ||
| I want to get, and I really should do this because I've talked about it for like two years, you get a... How would you do this? | ||
| You'd want maybe like to buy four small houses, and each of them is a decade. | ||
| 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s. | ||
| And you rent the place for however many days you want. | ||
| When you go inside, everything is of that decade. | ||
| So you go into the 90s house and there's posters on the walls in the bedroom. | ||
| When you turn the TV on, we have a raspberry pie playing a loop of multiple channels with perfect all day. | ||
| On the fridge will be 90s pizza hut. | ||
| You open it, some 90s sodas, and you get to live in the 90s room, 60s room, 70s, 80s room, radio, phones, and everything. | ||
| And it's like a theme hotel. | ||
| You know, PBS did this. | ||
| They did something called the 1900 house. | ||
| Yeah, but that was like, just, it was like one house where they had people live in the 1900s so I could experience it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I'm saying like, do a business. | ||
| No, I gotcha, I gotcha, yeah. | ||
| Airbnb, people can rent it. | ||
| I want to stay in the 90s. | ||
| And then what we do is- No, no wifi. | ||
| No wifi. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, no wifi. | ||
| In fact, you have to give us your cell phone. | ||
| Here's the best part though. | ||
| On the fridge, there will be like a 90s Pizza Hut, and when you call it, a 90s Pizza Hut man shows up, if you want, and delivers it. | ||
| So what we have is one staff member and like a bunch of different outfits and uniforms who's on staff and on call to answer the phone if you call any of the phone numbers and things like this, and you get to experience. | ||
| My only concern, my biggest concern is- Is scoring some good molly. | ||
| Suicide. | ||
| Oh, sorry, okay. | ||
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Suicide. | |
| So you're gonna have some Gen Xer whose wife divorced him, his kids disowned him and he's lost his job and he's gonna rent the room and he's gonna go and he's gonna sit down and he's gonna look at the smash from the offspring poster and he's gonna turn on the Simpsons and he's gonna start crying and remember when life was good, he's gonna blow his fucking brains out in my hotel. | ||
| You know how to stop that from happening? | ||
| Make the house a hologram. | ||
| Ooh, interesting. | ||
| You nailed it! | ||
| Let's go to the next caller. | ||
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Alright, let's do it. | |
| But wouldn't it be fun to like stay in a 70s room? | ||
| I think it would be fun for- I actually did this, I'm not kidding. | ||
| When I was filming with Jordan Peterson in Arizona, the house was like hideous. | ||
| They go, no no, it's made in like a 1970s style because they film movies in it. | ||
| And I'm like, this is great for five minutes, but it's like tacky and horrific. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But people who were kids in the 70s would spend a night there and pay 300 bucks. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| It's like a theme thing where you- Formica, that's the material. | ||
| And especially like, you want to bring your kids and show them how you grew up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is what it was like, racing to the phone when it rings. | ||
| Your rotary phone. | ||
| Do you remember that, Michael? | ||
| Your tape deck. | ||
| No one ever called me. | ||
| I didn't have to race. | ||
| Your house? | ||
| Yeah, no one called me. | ||
| No, when I was a kid, the phone would ring, and then we'd all run to try and answer the phone. | ||
| My favorite was when I was like 10, and this guy called, and it was a debt collector. | ||
| And he was like, he's like, hi, I'm looking for Mrs. Poole. | ||
| And I was like, she's not home right now. | ||
| And he goes, Mrs. Poole, I know it's you. | ||
| And I was like, what? | ||
| I'm a boy! | ||
| And he was like, nice try. | ||
| I just hung up. | ||
| I'm embarrassed to say this, but I'll admit this because it's the after show. | ||
| I get called ma'am to my face once a year. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| You're misgendering me! | ||
| There's a woman out there that looks a lot like you. | ||
| Not meanly, like at the drugstore or whatever. | ||
| Have a nice day, ma'am. | ||
| Once a year. | ||
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Let's talk to Perceptual Jonathan. | |
| It hurts every time. | ||
| How are you, brother? | ||
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I think I'm doing well. | |
| I hope you guys are all doing well. | ||
| We are doing well. | ||
| Superman does good. | ||
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Yeah, you know, where you were talking about the Flat Earth stuff, if you go back and you look at the video when Felix Baumgartner jumped out of the sky, it's all just people in the comments arguing about the Flat Earth. | |
| Really? | ||
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Yeah, it's that famous Felix Baumgartner Red Bull video. | |
| Yeah, yeah, it's all people saying, like, oh, I can see curvature. | ||
| No, it's fisheye lens, what are you talking about? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't get it. | ||
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But my question's for Michael. | |
| I'm the guy. | ||
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With Nate Bacali in El Salvador, he's... | |
| really turned the country around, but he did it with very non-anarchist, very non-libertarian solutions. | ||
| And I'm wondering if we'd made El Presidente Michael Malice in El Salvador, what would your anarchist solution have looked like? | ||
| And also, does your general contempt, although we're kind of walking this back a bit during the show, but your general contempt for police apply to those who are rounding up the MS-13 gang members in El Salvador? | ||
| I would this is something that drives me crazy. | ||
| It's a very good question. | ||
| And these like my Twitter polls, like if you sometimes you ask people, would you rather have the flu or would you rather have full blown AIDS? | ||
| Well, neither. | ||
| They both suck. | ||
| Just because two things suck. | ||
| Does it mean they both suck equally or that one is not obviously preferable? | ||
| My contempt for the police is enormous and great, but when you're talking about gang members who are like raping kids and dismembering them, it's not a hard choice. | ||
| I just don't think the police historically, and especially in America, are very efficacious at handling gang violence, because if it was, Chicago wouldn't be Chicago. | ||
| And I don't think this is the police's force. | ||
| I think it's the force of the people who are running the police who are choosing To have these kind of situations, because it gives them an excuse to have more government control to disarm the populace. | ||
| So I absolutely have no problem with... I'm not 100% familiar with the Bukele situation, but I have no problem if there's like a narco-terrorist country where the gangs are just killing kids doing whatever the hell they want for someone to crack down on them. | ||
| And my biggest concern, which I'm sure everyone shares, is at what point do they draw the line and then everyone gets classified as a gang member and they get rounded up. | ||
| You know, just like, you know, the Patriot Act, oh, it's only good for terrorists. | ||
| Whoops, by terrorists, they mean someone who likes Trump. | ||
| That's the concern. | ||
| I'm interested to find out how he did it, what his plan was with the police, and if they stood down and disbanded after the job was done or if there's still a heavy police state. | ||
| No, no, this is still happening. | ||
| This is still happening, yeah. | ||
| I wouldn't call it a police state, though. | ||
| It's just like really cracking down on law and order. | ||
| It's not the same thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Anything else to add? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Merry Christmas. | ||
| Happy Hanukkah. | ||
| It won't go with Kwanzaa because that's a weird one. | ||
| Michael just said he celebrates Kwanzaa. | ||
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Kwanzaa is so fake. | |
| Kwanzaa is fake. | ||
| They're all fake. | ||
| The font is fake, and isn't it made up by like a, I don't know, some weird... A communist cultist. | ||
| Yeah, a communist in the 60s. | ||
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That's correct. | |
| Word, thanks for... And just one more thing, where you were talking about gas prices and stuff, it reminded me of this thing called the Peltzmann effect, which is, if you look at mandatory seatbelt laws, they may actually not Have help. | ||
| What may they not do? | ||
| Yeah, stop signs increase accidents. | ||
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We'll drive more recklessly. | |
| This is true. | ||
| So before stop signs, the average person would slow down at intersections to check because they didn't wanna get hit. | ||
| But once stop signs were created, people would, driving, notice a stop sign and think, I don't gotta stop, and then someone would blow the stop sign, hitting them. | ||
| Everyone used to stop by default. | ||
| Now no one stops, or some people don't. | ||
| And those people are called women. | ||
| We're a menace, what can I say? | ||
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Wait, I thought they were called property in the Middle East. | |
| We're not in the Middle East, we're in America. | ||
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You might be. | |
| Okay, let's get the next caller. | ||
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I'm pulling this up for Michael. | |
| There you go, you can pull it up. | ||
| What is that picture of? | ||
| You're getting better at that. | ||
| I know what that is. | ||
| People that know what it is, that's a pretty good one. | ||
| It's a picture of a scratched, a busted up rim from being dragged on a curb and it says | ||
| happy international women's day. | ||
| Oh my, oh, because the, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
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Curb gouge. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
|
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Got it. | |
| It's a rough one. | ||
| How's it going, Percentem, PRCNTM? | ||
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Hope you're well. | |
| You're getting better at that. | ||
| I am doing well. | ||
| My question is directed at Tim, but I guess anyone can answer it. | ||
| It starts with Owen Schroer a couple of nights ago sharing that many of the correction officers that he interacted with were sympathetic to him, but not willing to stand up for him in that situation. | ||
| I agree with Tim on his point that this is an example of the banality of evil, so my question is basically after we accept that, and it's twofold. | ||
| First, how do we convince people like that to actually risk taking a stand against something that is clearly immoral? | ||
| And if we can't, how do we create a communal consequence that is proportional to their inaction or acquiescence? | ||
| It's called Nuremberg. | ||
| Yeah, so when Trump comes in and he begins firing corrupt individuals and starts waiting all these people out, there can simply be an executive action, a proportional response of, these guards should lose their pensions and be fired. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| Go find another job. | ||
| It could be even simpler, which is what's happening to the police, where these people are just culturally the target because of shame. | ||
| And at a certain point, if something's just a shameful job, fewer people are going to do it. | ||
| But it's true. | ||
| But I don't think we want to culturally shame... | ||
| Yeah, we want to culturally shame those who are just lapdogs for the state. | ||
| for the state. Right, right. And so that would mean that once we win, we have to remember the names of | ||
| each and every one of these people who said, I'm just doing my job, and then find a commensurate | ||
| punishment. And I think for a security, for like a prison guard who was arresting Owen Schroer, | ||
| we should strip them of their pensions and fire them. But if they're only doing their job, | ||
| they'd be just as happy doing their job for the right people. And we stripped them of, | ||
| stripped them of their pension. And so they're going to think, no, no, no, guys, | ||
| if I go along with that bullshit, I lose my retirement. Oh, sure. | ||
| I saw what happened to John, I'm not going anywhere near that bullshit. | ||
| John's the worst. | ||
| These people are always going to be the banality of evil. | ||
| Yes, correct. | ||
| I wrote a whole book about it. | ||
| We need to create a consequence for people who want to- Amen, brother. | ||
| Right, that simple. | ||
| Could you make robots that are, like, ethical? | ||
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No. | |
| God, Ian. | ||
| They're like, won't do it? | ||
| It's called Lex Friedman. | ||
| Yeah, maybe Lex can build it. | ||
| Hold on, hold on. | ||
| Hear me out. | ||
| Uh, uh, Michael. | ||
| What if we unleashed maybe like a couple million of those Boston Dynamics humanoid bots with guns and then went, oh geez, oh no, we don't know where these came from and they're out of control. | ||
| We all must unite together to fight back against them. | ||
| Oh, a common enemy. | ||
| And then created a fake common enemy, and then we defeat them, and then... I think the best way to beat the Biden regime is create Skynet. | ||
| It can't possibly backfire. | ||
| You would think robot police would just be the arm of the law, which could be tyrannical, but if it's somehow in the code that they will not turn on the righteous, that they will overlook their orders if it's wrong, if it's like... But that's really, like, literally what's happening now. | ||
| It's just we're being defined as the not righteous by the programmers. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So we need to win the culture back and then determine who is... Just burn down the universe. | ||
| I just want to point this out to everybody because we've said to a lot of people but I'm glad you're here I can say this. | ||
| Isn't it wild that only a few years ago you'd be banned on Twitter for saying men aren't women? | ||
| Now I tweet the word retard like twice a day. | ||
| That me. | ||
| I know! | ||
| I was like, retard! | ||
| Every time at Michael. | ||
| I really want people to appreciate this because conservatives especially, and I do not consider myself conservative, really don't know how to take a win. | ||
| Or if they take a win, they think, oh, does it matter? | ||
| It's just like, if something like mass Muslim immigration was a big one, it's like, they stop talking about refugees welcome, like take the win. | ||
| But they're so content on being like the whipping boys of the left, that when anything good happens, they can't be like, wait a minute, this has actually gone in a positive direction. | ||
| Alex Jones is back everywhere. | ||
| When I complain about Marvel movies getting woke, a whole bunch of conservatives are like, what a fucking man-child, baby, grow up, baby. | ||
| Let me just tell you, when we first got the MCU started, Captain America was one of the biggest conservative victories in entertainment. | ||
| The story of a guy who wanted so hard to fight for America, who believed in this country and wore its flag, that he would lie to recruiters, desperately trying to serve this country and sacrifice himself for the betterment of his community. | ||
| There was no celebration. | ||
| There was no, like, this is what movies should be about, a superhero who is a kid who, you know, was a soldier and loved America and fought fascism. | ||
| Instead, it was just a movie. | ||
| And then when Marvel got woke, they went, oh, shut up, who cares, grow up. | ||
| I'm like, dude, dude, dude. | ||
| In 2011, or when was the first, I don't even remember what it was, American culture in movies was Captain America. | ||
| And then ten years later, it's feminist fucking bullshit. | ||
| We should be mad they stole that from us and fight to win it back. | ||
| So our kids watch more Captain America. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| It feels like the conservative movement is a bitch fest. | ||
| Like, complaining, complaining. | ||
| And like, I think people gotta learn to enjoy the sea change. | ||
| Like, things, you're never gonna win or lose. | ||
| It's always changing. | ||
| And just enjoy when things start to move in the direction you want them to. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And take the wins when you get them. | ||
| Even if they're small. | ||
| And in your personal life. | ||
| I think that's a good thing. | ||
| People are always obsessed with the negative things that are happening. | ||
| You have to look for the positive. | ||
| It's psychological. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| It is good. | ||
| I think a lot of people complain about the darkness of like a lot of YouTube and commentary. | ||
| It's important. | ||
| There's a reason why we do this. | ||
| We're looking for danger. | ||
| It's what we do. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But we always got to mention, we always got to make sure we talk about, look, there's light at the end of the tunnel. | ||
| We're not down and out. | ||
| We're pointing out the problems, but good things happen too. | ||
| Because if your tribe is, if you scare, you want to let your tribe know when there's danger, but if you scare them into, they'll be, they'll be traumatized and they'll- You should also let your tribe know when there's a bounty. | ||
| So I just want to say this, um, when I inevitably be, inevitably become Supreme Chancellor, all of these banality of evil people are going to feel it and they will regret it. | ||
| Sounds like you're going to take Ibogaine. | ||
| They're gonna feel you. | ||
| It's a consciousness shift. | ||
| Oh my god, I love you so much! | ||
| So, I don't ever actually plan on being Supreme Chancellor, but I, mark my words, whatever power and capabilities that I have will always, always be used for accountability to these people. | ||
| And what could that turn into? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Let's say like right now we open a coffee shop and one of the security guards who imprisoned Owen Schroyer shows up to an event, we kick him out. | ||
| That's what I mean. | ||
| Sure, exactly. | ||
| You're not welcome here, dude. | ||
| Voluntary and peaceful enforcement of norms. | ||
| Yep, you're a scumbag and you're not welcome here. | ||
| You are not welcome. | ||
| Thanks for calling in, good sir. | ||
| Was there any final thoughts? | ||
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Uh, two quick ones. | |
| The first, your Fast and Furious reference, it's five, not four. | ||
| Oh, it's five! | ||
| How embarrassing for you. | ||
| I know. | ||
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You've done it a couple of times and it bugs me. | |
| No, that's harsh. | ||
| The other one is that I'm actually, I'm waiting on the copyright paperwork to finish up, but once I get that, I will be attempting to publish my children's book, which will initially be available on Amazon because I don't have anywhere else. | ||
| It's because he thinks Tokyo Drift is actually part of the... It's not? | ||
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I had to watch Tokyo Drift for nothing? | |
| It's like saying Hobbs and Shaw is part of the main storyline. | ||
| Do you not see this gray hair? | ||
| I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. | ||
| Like, Hobbs and Shaw is fine, but it's clearly not. | ||
| Can we talk about Thundercats? | ||
| Something I understand. | ||
| Yeah, Lionel for the win, man. | ||
| Anyway, that's my base. | ||
| I used to play Mumrah at the... Cheers. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Thanks for calling in. | |
| At our local, um... Yep. | ||
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Later. | |
| Later. | ||
| Bye. | ||
| Play group. | ||
| Uh... Last, but not least... Dewinde. | ||
| Dewinde. | ||
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Dewinde. | |
| How are you? | ||
| Dewinde. | ||
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Dewinde. | |
| Not sure how to pronounce that one. | ||
| Dewinde. | ||
| You got it right. | ||
| Dewinde. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Good evening. | ||
| Thanks for having me. | ||
| You guys do great work. | ||
| Thank you, man. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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My question is first for Ian, but I do want to get it from everybody to the whole panel. | |
| What do you think is going to happen if the Epstein list is released and Donald J. Trump's name is on it as an active participant? | ||
| It won't be. | ||
| We'd know by now. | ||
| That's for sure. | ||
| No, it will be, but it's going to be like people don't understand what's being released. | ||
| They're not releasing the client list. | ||
| Look, man, I just can't stand some of these YouTubers. | ||
| Why are they releasing them? | ||
| It's a defamation court documents related to Virginia Jufres defamation suit with Ghislaine | ||
| Maxwell. | ||
| And the documents are just a bunch of statements were made by witnesses in the court case, | ||
| the names were redacted. | ||
| And now the court will be releasing the name. | ||
| So it's victims. | ||
| It's like janitors, housekeepers who are around. | ||
| It's people who are not even related to Epson in any way. | ||
| There's people who are like, I ran an auto repair shop. | ||
| this woman came in and got her car fixed one day. | ||
| But there will be associates, there are recruiters. | ||
| The likelihood that Trump's name pops up, I think is significant. | ||
| But it's gonna be like Donald Trump was in the middle of a financial deal with insert person who had been negotiating with Epstein or something like this. | ||
| Okay, got it, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's not the client list, which is what happened. | ||
| Not the client list. | ||
| And there's a, because a bunch of people on YouTube and Twitter are saying, the Epstein list is being released. | ||
| That's how they are saying, that's how I perceive it, yeah. | ||
| Right, that's not true. | ||
| Oh, damn. | ||
| 170 names from a lawsuit. | ||
| You had a second question there. | ||
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Yeah, I'm sorry. | |
| There was a second part of that. | ||
| Also, what happens if there's false names for malicious intent to persuade American people from certain candidates? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I don't know how to verify that list. | ||
| I don't know if there's really too much weight on it. | ||
| There's court documents with names in them. | ||
| 177 names. | ||
| It's not even a list then. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| It's not a list at all. | ||
| It's being misrepresented, yeah. | ||
| And it was like verified somehow and I don't even know who's doing the verification. | ||
| It's just like a cast of characters in a lawsuit. | ||
| That's not a list. | ||
| But even there's victims in it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| They're gonna be naming victims. | ||
| It's a cast of characters. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's unfortunate. | ||
| We're still happy about it. | ||
| Michael, have you ever been arrested? | ||
| No. | ||
| Have you ever been detained? | ||
| No. | ||
| Have you ever been questioned by the police in any way? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You have done more time than anyone on Epstein's client list. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| Simply having been questioned. | ||
| I have a punchline, but I'm not going to do it. | ||
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I think if Trump had been on the flight, that would have came out. | |
| It's not even a joke, it's true. | ||
| What are you saying Ian? | ||
| Oh, I agreed with you that if Trump's name had been on the flight logs, that would have already been out. | ||
| Of course. | ||
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For sure. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But that's, I know it's not an answer to the question. | ||
| It's just that the whole like, if his name came out on the flight log, what would people do is like, you know, if monkeys came down from space, what would we do kind of thing? | ||
| Who's that lady who said he raped her in New York? | ||
| Oh, that Agent Carol? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do we even have evidence that he was like at the store with her? | ||
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No. | |
| No. | ||
| Quite the contrary. | ||
| The circumstantial evidence would indicate it's not true at all. | ||
| Okay, that's what I thought. | ||
| And my favorite part of the town hall was when he was like, I own the Plaza Hotel across from the store. | ||
| Like, you think I'm what? | ||
| I think I'm going to a dressing room? | ||
| She argued that he went into one of the busiest buildings in the city where he was a superstar, went to the second floor where there was no one for some reason on this day, went to a dressing room that was locked, somehow he opened, and then he went in there which she consented to having sex with. | ||
| She said it was consensual. | ||
| And now it's rape. | ||
| And the court just said yes. | ||
| Okay, I just want to be clear, because I thought I'm missing something. | ||
| One of the jurors said he watched my show one time, and they all ran the story being like, Tim Pool fan, you know, removed from Jury Pool or something like this, and I was like, the dude said that he had watched the show once. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fucking amazing. | ||
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Anyway, sir, is there anything else you would like to add? | |
| No, that was perfect, thank you, that was great. | ||
| Right on, thanks. | ||
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I did want to say, I'd like to plug my brother-in-law's book, if that's okay. | |
| Do it, do it! | ||
| Sure, yeah. | ||
| It's available pre-order on Amazon, My Five Galleons, and dialed 03 for operator, by Michael Ewer II, Poems, Essays, and Lived Experiences. | ||
| And I was also asked to find out where he could send you a copy. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Any local trash can. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| So, uh, as time goes on and the show gets bigger, the ability to communicate with me becomes closer and closer to zero. | ||
| And there is no, no means by which to send me things or communicate with me. | ||
| And besides, I'm not kidding. | ||
| There's really no upside to talking to him. | ||
| Trust me. | ||
| It's just, it's all, it's all, it's all nonsense. | ||
| The opportunity cost. | ||
| I gotta tell you, like one of the most annoying things is when people ask me to call Rogan for them. | ||
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Oh God. | |
| And I'm like my friend. | ||
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Did he literally ask you that? | |
| All the time. | ||
| Are you serious? | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Don't even get me started. | ||
| I'll do like every once in a while, if some really cool thing comes in and they're like, show Tim. | ||
| They're never like, Hey, can you, they never asked for like second tier people like, Hey, could you get me on Ruben? | ||
| I mean, Ruben is not Rogan. | ||
| Ruben has a huge audience. | ||
| Like I could probably get you on Ruben, but it has to be Rogan. | ||
| And you know what else? | ||
| Not everyone is good at riffing for three hours straight. | ||
| It's a really hard thing to do. | ||
| Although I will say, he needs to have James O'Keefe on it. | ||
| I don't know why he hasn't. | ||
| That's true, yeah. | ||
| He's referenced him a lot, but like, I gotta tell you, there is zero percent I ever text Joe and tell him that, hey, have you had this person on? | ||
| That's never happened. | ||
| Because like, you know, I tell people, I'm like, listen, I essentially don't have email. | ||
| I don't have an address. | ||
| There's no way to send me anything. | ||
| Security reasons and the amount that I get is so insane that it's just a big pile of garbage. | ||
| I get like a thousand emails a day or more. | ||
| So it's just mass garbage non-stop. | ||
| The only time, I always tell people like, I mean, if I hit up Joe about like Bigfoot or something, we'll laugh our asses off. | ||
| But you try and hit him up and talk to him about the show and other people, it's just like, bro, I've got no time for this. | ||
| Yes, of course. | ||
| But anyway. | ||
| True. | ||
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Anyways. | |
| Sorry, I have no idea. | ||
| We used to have a P.O. | ||
| box, we got rid of it because people were sending bombs and shit. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Cheers, mate. | ||
| Well, I said what I could say. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| See you later. | ||
| Thanks for calling in. | ||
| Michael, thanks for hanging out. | ||
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It's been a blast. | |
| It's always such fun. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| We got to have you back. | ||
| Do you have a plan for the election in 2024? | ||
| Like what you're going to be doing? | ||
| No, but I'll come back here to launch my Indiegogo. | ||
| Is that cool? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But I imagine for the 2024 election, we'll have like a big event. | ||
| We'll get a ton of people to come down. | ||
| It'll be epic. | ||
| Yeah, so, you know, you're definitely invited. | ||
| Okay, that'd be so fun. | ||
| We should do you and Roseanne, too, if you're into it. | ||
| Tim, what's the point? | ||
| There's not gonna be an election. | ||
| But that's why we gotta have you and Roseanne on election day for her to hand you the thousand dollars. | ||
| What I think we should do is, before November, we should have a Tim Pool roast. | ||
| I don't know how I would do that. | ||
| I mean, sure, if you want to set something up. | ||
| Would you do it in Austin? | ||
| Let's do it at the Mothership. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| We couldn't even get the mothership with Roseanne. | ||
| You know how hard we tried? | ||
| You couldn't get it with her? | ||
| Well, nobody, no one would dare ask anyone at the mothership for how to do booking. | ||
| Adam does booking. | ||
| Adam Egott. | ||
| I don't know Adam. | ||
| I'm just saying that's who does booking. | ||
| And so everyone was like, oh, I'm not gonna know. | ||
| Adam Egott, you ask him. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We were planning on doing the show with you and Roseanne in Austin at the Mothership and doing IRL live. | ||
| Ask Adam, he'll do it. | ||
| Yeah, we'll figure it out, but it won't be, you know, here right now. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Chief Op Off says, Tim is so afraid of a roast. | ||
| You wanna know what I'm afraid of? | ||
| I'm afraid of getting on a private jet on Sunday at 4 p.m. | ||
| Landing in a city where I have to work out of a hotel room, then doing a live show on stage and having to get on a private jet at 10 p.m. | ||
| Mountain Time to fly back to the East Coast to get home at 521 a.m., sleep for two hours and ten minutes and then wake up to do my morning show again, and then have to eat, exercise, and do the nightly show again. | ||
| That's what I'm worried about. | ||
| So when someone's like, would you do it in Austin? | ||
| That's what I'm thinking about. | ||
| But it doesn't have to be live. | ||
| We could tape it on Saturday and air it as the Monday show, for example. | ||
| But like, if we're gonna do it in Austin, I have to go to Austin. | ||
| Sure, no, I'm just saying. | ||
| I'm just throwing that out there. | ||
| So, going to Austin would entail Friday night, after the show, getting a private jet, which is gonna cost $70,000 round-trip. | ||
| Maybe you don't wanna do that. | ||
| Saturday morning commercial, meaning leave at seven, get to the airport at nine, be in the airport for three hours, fly on a plane for five hours, land, go do a roast, Sunday, get on a plane, fly back, then wake up the next day, and it's just two straight weeks of no days off and just pure nonstop. | ||
| Dude, we should do a week in Austin. | ||
| It is so fun. | ||
| The option would be if we did Friday night show, live, or something like that. | ||
| I guess the problem with that is we couldn't, the other issue is we couldn't do it on IRL because a real roast needs to be really fucked up. | ||
| You can bleep it. | ||
| We can't bleep live. | ||
| No, but you can air it on Monday and tape it Friday. | ||
| That'd be awesome. | ||
| We'll know because we do IRL live on Friday. | ||
| So at what point during the day. | ||
| I see what you're saying. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So we could like record a roast at... We could do it live on the website and then post it on YouTube later. | ||
| If we did it out here in DC, Yeah. | ||
| On a Saturday? | ||
| Super easy to do. | ||
| And you can fly. | ||
| It'll be cheaper to fly. | ||
| And then we do dinner afterwards. | ||
| You can fly, everyone. | ||
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Yeah, absolutely. | |
| That'd be easy. | ||
| Put them up. | ||
| That's easy. | ||
| Yeah, it'd be super great. | ||
| I'd be really excited to have Ryan Long, Daniel Palachuk, Ashley St. | ||
| Clair, you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, super cool. | ||
| Super racist. | ||
| I mean, yeah, it'd be really, really great. | ||
| Oh, I'm just looking for all... Anyway, we should wrap up now so I can go to bed. | ||
| But thank you, everybody, for hanging out. | ||
| We'll be back tomorrow. | ||
| Friday on The Culture, where Erik Prince is coming. | ||
| I mean, I'm going to talk so much about war, it's going to be fascinating. |
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