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Timcast IRL - Epstein Documents DROP SOON, Expected To Name Bill Clinton AND MORE w/Andrew Meyer
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What a way to kick off the new year.
tim pool
The Epstein court documents are set to be released very soon.
They were supposed to come out today.
I don't know what's going on with it.
The latest report in the New York Times that they will come out shortly.
And numerous reports state Bill Clinton is expected to be on the list.
Now Aaron Rodgers says Jimmy Kimmel's probably on the list.
Jimmy Kimmel got really mad.
Started going after Aaron Rodgers saying, I have never met that guy.
I'm not on any lists.
But it's not the list.
It's a client list.
It's a list of names related to a defamation court case.
So the name may... Donald Trump could be in the court documents.
These documents are just part of a defamation suit where there's a bunch of people who may be in the documents.
Let's say someone said, shortly after I left Donald Trump's party, I, you know, got into a car and looked on my phone and saw that someone had said nasty words about me.
Well, that's a name that could appear in these court papers, so don't get your hopes up about several hundred people who are gonna appear on this list, but we are expected to learn the names of several associates of Jeffrey Epstein, so it is still a pretty big story.
So we'll talk about Plus, we got big news, ladies and gentlemen!
Oh, and the press doesn't like this.
Vivek Ramaswamy announced he will not participate in the next debate with CNN because CNN is biased and they're really, really awful and they said nasty things about him.
Instead, we, TimCast, will be hosting a town hall live event.
Tickets are available with Vivek.
We're going to be doing the TimCast town hall with presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy.
At the same time, CNN is hosting their lesser-known GOP debates with Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis.
So I love this.
The media is just absolutely pissed that Vivek is trying to go around them, so of course they're smearing him.
But he announced this morning, and we're going to be next week in Des Moines.
On the 10th, doing a live event on stage with Vivek Ramaswamy as we talk about the current state of affairs.
And there's a lot of interesting stuff that he's talking about and will be talking about.
So we're really interested to have that event with him.
It's going to be a lot of fun.
But other than that, we're going to talk about a lot of the news today.
My friends, 2024 just kicked off.
We already got reports that some dude loaded up a van with explosives and tried crashing into a group of pedestrians, so it's getting crazy as it is.
Numerous stories have come out from people warning, hey man, we should really consider what's gonna happen with this election coming up because, you know, a lot of people are concerned about the election itself, November.
I mean, we may see terrifying things this summer with riots, who knows what.
Maybe we see nothing.
Honestly, I have no idea, but I will tell you this.
While we were gone for the break, I talked to a lot of regular people all around in various in the Pacific Northwest particularly when we went to Alaska and in Chicago I gotta tell you man regular people for one they like Trump I'm not saying everybody does obviously the people who don't like him but you know when I was flying out of Chicago our shuttle bus driver said that
He said this thing, Swift Air, had brought in 140 illegal immigrants on a private 737, and I'm like, that's gotta cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
And he said they were lied to, they were told it was the Blackhawks, because, and I asked him, I was like, is that because you wouldn't have served the plane if you knew what was going on?
He's like, yup.
So they lie to the crew and say, oh, famous hockey team's coming in.
Don't you guys want to go?
And they all run out and then find out they just agreed to help facilitate the trafficking of human beings.
So it's crazy stuff.
We're going to jump into all that, my friends.
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So joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Andrew Meyer.
andrew meyer
Howdy Tim.
tim pool
You want to grab that mic?
Yep.
Who are you?
What do you do?
andrew meyer
I'm a right-wing entrepreneur.
I just launched the Alex Jones video game at AlexJonesGame.com and it's going to be live on Steam tomorrow.
So if you want to see some leftist heads explode, check out AlexJonesGame.com.
Check out him destroying the New World Order in a video game.
You will not believe what he gets into, including Epstein Island.
tim pool
Interesting.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Well, thanks for hanging out.
We got Phil.
He's hanging out.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Labonte, lead singer of All That Remains, failed musician, and anti-communist, counter-revolutionary.
What's up, man?
shane cashman
What's up?
Happy New Year.
Shane Cashman, writer for Scanner.com, author of the Inverted World book series, GhostOfTheCivilWar.com.
Happy to be here.
serge du preez
And IamSir.com, producer of IRL.
Yeah, good to see you guys.
Happy New Year.
tim pool
All right, here's the big story, ladies and gentlemen.
Of course, there are many big stories, but this is the one that's trending.
Everybody wants to know what's going on.
From the New York Times, Epstein documents naming prominent figures expected to be released soon.
The documents, related to a lawsuit involving Ghislaine Maxwell, an associate of the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein, are anticipated to include names previously redacted.
Some people actually say that she may have been the mastermind.
Um, but we don't know.
We don't know.
Epstein appears to be, by all accounts, the mastermind, but she was more than just an associate.
She was basically his second-in-command.
They're going to mention court documents are set to be released.
This we know.
We've been waiting a lot for it, but there's speculation as to who's going to be on that list.
Now, multiple news reports have said former President Bill Clinton will be among those names.
In fact, conservative commentators have jumped on.
Now, hold on there a minute.
What does that mean, conservative commentators jumped on this?
Because it was ABC and a bunch of other prominent mainstream outlets that reported it.
So wouldn't you first say that several corporate news outlets jumped on news that Bill Clinton may be among those named?
And then critics of Bill Clinton went, wow, look at that?
I love it, New York Times.
Never stop being you.
And a spokesman pointed to that statement on Tuesday.
that will be in connection with allegations of wrongdoing.
And Ms. Giuffre has not accused Clinton of any misconduct.
His office said in 2019 that he had flown in Epstein's private plane, but had no knowledge
of Epstein's crimes.
And a spokesman pointed to that statement on Tuesday.
I'm going to go ahead and say, I don't believe you.
You know, the statements we've gotten from victims that are confirmed to be victims are
horrifying.
And I don't believe even they say that we may learn the names of their housekeepers.
I'm like, yeah, lock them up.
Housekeepers get locked up, too.
If you were a maid for Epstein while he was bringing in young girls so that powerful elites could fly to a private island to rape them and you were cleaning up the mess, you are an accomplice who aided and abetted human traffickers and child exploitation.
Yeah, you get locked up, too.
So, if you're going to tell me that Bill Clinton was flying on this plane and he had no idea what was going on, oh, come on.
Of all of the people they could try to claim there's no evidence of wrongdoing, you know, if they said Bill Gates, like Bill Gates flew on this plane but had no evidence of any wrongdoing, we'd all roll our eyes and be like, okay, maybe, but I doubt it.
With Bill Clinton, it's like, come on, that guy?
We all know what that guy's all about.
You think he doesn't know what's going on?
I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that he was facilitating it.
We'll see.
Who else?
What do you guys think?
shane cashman
I think it's weird, you know, first of all, when they say the right wing part, because right wing for the corporate press has become a synonym for conspiratorial.
tim pool
It says conservative.
shane cashman
Oh, so it's conservative.
So conservative has become a synonym for conspiratorial, you know, because they're trying to give you that slant because they don't want people to believe who might be on the list or not.
But like you're saying, with the maids and stuff, I just think about those reports that came out years ago about those dental chairs or like torture type chairs that were in these apartments of his in like weird places and weird rooms.
Who's cleaning up this place who's not who's not reporting all this weird activity of these children, so I'm looking forward to coming out, but I'm also.
Not going to be surprised when people look at it and spin it to support whatever narrative they want to sell.
So they see Trump, they're going to go with the Trump angle.
You see Clinton, they're going with the Clinton angle and it's going to become like this.
tim pool
I bet Trump's on it.
shane cashman
Everyone's going to be on it, right?
Every name will be attached.
tim pool
I bet Trump's in it and the media is going to go nuts and be like Trump listed in Epstein documents.
phil labonte
Anybody that can, anyone that's, you know, from the right that is on the list is going to be the focus from the mainstream media if they talk about it.
I do think the mainstream media wants this to quiet down and go away.
Overall, I think it's bad for the establishment because everyone knows that Jeffrey Epstein was involved with a lot of people.
Look, the guy was a master networker.
There's rumors about his connections to intelligence agencies.
The likelihood of him using Epstein, using the island to get dirt on people that are in positions of power, offering them things that are illegal, and then getting, you know, having video or having information about it or whatever, and using that to not just finance his own, uh, his own lifestyle, but also to use that to influence essentially, you know, movers and shakers in world politics and, and, and big business.
Um, there's not an argument, there's not an argument about whether or not that is what is going on.
It's generally a consensus.
Gil's Lane, I forgot, I'm probably mispronouncing it.
tim pool
Why do we care to pronounce our name right?
When I would call her Gislaine, people would think it's Gislaine.
shane cashman
It's like, worry about her pronouns.
You're right.
I should call her Gislaine from now on.
phil labonte
I try to pronounce... Just because I try to pronounce everything right.
But whatever, yeah.
G-woman is in jail for... That's it, yeah.
She's a government issue.
For, you know, facilitating the trafficking of human beings.
To no one.
shane cashman
Right.
phil labonte
So these things are, these things have happened.
There's, and no matter how many, no matter how the, the media decides it wants to, uh, cast this or, or, uh, what narrative they want to go with.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
These things are actually true, actually have happened.
And I think that the public might be numb to it.
tim pool
I just gotta, I gotta say this.
Cause you know, it's like, it's, It's been the holiday, we've been off for a couple weeks, and I haven't had the opportunity to say Civil War on air for a little while.
I was like, just gotta get that out.
You know that meme where the guy's like sweating his veins popping?
That's what it's like!
But no, I just want to point out, because I love doing that time travel test where I'm like, imagine you went back in time X amount of years and then explained how X is happening, why it's happening now.
I just want to also point out that, imagine if you went back to 2012.
And got up on stage in front of a whole bunch of people at the Super Bowl.
You went on stage and said, powerful global elites are involved in child trafficking with multi-billionaires, with former presidents and politicians flying on private islands.
They'd be like, get this crackpot out of here!
Conspiracy theory!
phil labonte
There are still a lot of people that will say that exact thing and believe what they're saying.
tim pool
Yeah, but that's fine, because they're the crackpots now.
Fair.
I'm saying, back then, when Alex Jones is banging on the table and going, THEY GOT PLANES AND THEY'RE FLYING THESE KIDS IN THIS ISLAND!
They were like, this guy's lost his mind.
He's insane.
Now, I don't know if it's civil war related or whatever, just think about how far we've come to where you get in an Uber and you'll be like, oh, did you hear that global, powerful, political, elite sex trafficking ring's about to have a names release?
The Uber driver's gonna be like, oh yeah, I heard that.
It's just a ubiquitous fact.
shane cashman
Yo, go back to 2012 and tell people that sometime soon after Epstein will happen, the world will shut down.
unidentified
Global elites will literally destroy the world.
phil labonte
Turn the world off.
unidentified
Boom.
shane cashman
And then, like you're saying, with Epstein talking about that, and it's kind of nonchalant now, and where I go in the world when I'm getting in a car, I like to talk about how that person experienced COVID and lockdowns.
We all have a shared traumatic fear ritual experience.
phil labonte
That is wild.
unidentified
Crazy.
phil labonte
When you put it like that, it is wild.
shane cashman
Crazy.
tim pool
When was the Epstein stuff exposed?
In 2019?
phil labonte
Exposed?
shane cashman
Or when did he die?
tim pool
No, the exposure stuff happened a long... Alex Jones was talking about this 15 years ago.
Decades ago, yeah.
But, uh, when was it actually that he got, he was getting arrested?
What year was that?
I don't know.
unidentified
19, right?
shane cashman
Was it 19?
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
So.
serge du preez
19 and then he, uh, he.
tim pool
And that's, and that's when, that's when the cameras shut off, the guards fell asleep.
serge du preez
That was 2020, yeah.
tim pool
You know, it's just, come on.
shane cashman
Yeah.
phil labonte
Epstein got arrested and they're just like, yo, hold on, turn everything off.
We cannot let this happen.
shane cashman
At the time of him being in jail, I was trying, I was Reporting on a story about a guy who went to the jail for a crazy drug problem.
He was a former cop.
He went to prison.
I'm writing about it.
And he turns out to be the guy who was in the prison cell with Epstein, who beat him up.
I never found a place at that time when I was freelancing to publish a story, but I kept going around being like, this is insane.
Not only is that whole story insane with the guy, former cop, like taking four, uh, immigrants lives and burying them on a pig farm in New York.
Then he got a cell phone in his jail cell.
No one knows how he got it.
Then he beat up Epstein and Epstein was put in that room in a cell where he hung himself.
tim pool
No, no, no.
Wasn't it reportedly that... It was reported that his roommate beat him up, but then it was changed, the reporting, that the roommate said, no, he hurt himself.
He tried to kill himself.
shane cashman
He said, I didn't do anything.
tim pool
Yeah.
shane cashman
I'm pretty sure.
Go look up that guy.
I forget his name right now.
He's a jack, dude.
tim pool
Come on.
I just love it.
It's like, they put Epstein in a cell with this guy who was super ripped, and then Epstein makes an attempt.
Didn't Epstein, like, say something like, no, I didn't?
shane cashman
I mean, it's been a while since... I know, I forget all those, but the guy was a former cop.
Who was a murderer?
tim pool
I just love how wild it is that like literally no one I shouldn't say, okay, figuratively no one believes that Epstein
took his own life But there are these corporate press journals like, he
certainly did, it makes a lot of sense It's like, there's a video diagram, like someone made a
video Like CGI of how he would, how they claim he would have done
it And I saw this clip and I'm like, it is the stupidest thing
I have ever seen Because the room's so small
Epstein is, what's the yoga pose called where you like You- you- you sit with your legs under you and then lay all
the way back down.
You know what I'm talking about?
unidentified
I do.
shane cashman
I don't know why I'm deferring a surge.
tim pool
So you're like, you sit on your feet.
phil labonte
Yeah.
You bend to the knees and you're sitting on your... And then you lay all the way back.
Yeah, your thighs are on your calves.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, right.
And so, like, your legs are folded and you're laying back and supposedly what Epstein did was he laid on the bed that way because the ceiling wasn't high enough and then lurched forward with his legs bent to jump off the bed because there was no actual way To hang himself.
shane cashman
And they supposedly only had certain type of easily tear away sheets.
Like they said he hung himself with.
tim pool
Yeah, wasn't he wearing a smock or something?
shane cashman
Yeah, none of it.
tim pool
Oh, come on, dude.
The cameras break, the guards fall asleep, and we're just like, dude, I'm sorry.
You know what would be really funny?
If Epstein's like in prison, he's like, how can I make this the least believable thing ever?
And like his plan, and then the guards are like, damn it, he got us.
He waited until they were sleeping.
He broke the cameras.
phil labonte
Look, I mean, realistically, like, even if, like, whether you believe he killed himself or not, kind of doesn't matter.
Because the reason that he killed himself is because what was going to happen.
unidentified
Right.
phil labonte
So, like, or the reason he's dead.
Whether he killed himself or whether he was killed by the Clintons.
It's not like... The Clintons!
Well, I mean, come on, everybody knows it.
Everybody thinks it's Hillary.
But it's not like people in positions of power in governments are strangers to ordering the killing of human beings.
If you're the president and you order a strike, you'll carry it out.
That is mafioso crap.
It's just that it's polished up and made acceptable.
tim pool
You go to someone and say, did you know that Barack Obama secretly ordered the killing of Americans?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, shut up, and you pull up on the New York Times.
Here you go, read about it.
It's not a conspiracy, this is in the New York Times.
I mean, maybe the New York Times is lying, I don't trust them.
andrew meyer
I think the same thing that you were saying earlier, when Phil was talking earlier, I was thinking, it's amazing that now we're, 2024 finally, But the people hear things like Epstein, and they know, yeah, there's the people running things, Bill Clinton and Bill Gates, these people, that there are probably tapes of them doing horrible, horrible things.
They're compromised, they're blackmailed.
The people in power are these sick, sick people, and that that's mainstream now.
The Alex Jones was right jar is very full, and everybody recognizes it.
So, we're in an amazing time to be alive, the fact that this is popular consciousness now, and we can move things in a very different direction than has gone on for decades.
tim pool
I'm really excited for throwing money into the Alex Jones was right jar, as it pertains to fifth dimensional creatures, and the chimeras, and the cell phone towers, and all that stuff.
When that's proven true, I'm gonna be like, man, I'm just gonna empty my wall and just shuffle it all in there.
You know, Alex goes on the Joe Rogan show and he's like, they got multi-dimensional beings that are, you know... We know the chimeras are out there.
shane cashman
We know, we know, they've definitely made odd creatures in labs.
Yeah, but like... And put weird things on aborted fetuses in that, was it Philly or Pittsburgh?
tim pool
They definitely do weird stuff.
And I think the issue with Alex is that he does get a lot right.
But I think he'll see a story about like chimeras and then he takes like this one small story and then dives so far into it and stretches it, you know, to something bigger than it really is.
shane cashman
I also know when you talk to Alex- But he's right about a lot.
Sometimes it's like there's just so much information that's coming out at once.
You gotta like narrow it down and follow that path, you know?
Because there's a lot.
And a lot of those chimeras, you can look up those, the things that they're making out of the fetuses.
They're doing stuff.
Disturbing.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story real quick.
We're gonna get fun with it.
Aaron Rodgers suggests Jimmy Kimmel will be named as one of Jeffrey Epstein's associates.
As the Jets quarterback jokes, he will definitely be popping some sort of bottle when the list is made public.
Let me just pause right there for a second, guys.
It's not the list, okay?
The list is not being made public.
We wish.
It is a defamation lawsuit pertaining to Jeffrey Epstein's goings-on, and there are names that were redacted from court documents.
But the names will likely include a wide range of people.
It's expected Bill Clinton will be on it, maybe even Bill Gates, but we don't know for sure.
and in what capacity they're being named.
And Donald Trump, I believe, it's very plausible.
In fact, we've already got people chatting saying, all they're going to do is they're going to un-redact the
names of people like Trump and people in the anti-establishment
so the media can report Trump named in document.
And then what it actually might be is, I was watching the TV and I saw Donald Trump come on.
And then I went, wow, look, it's Trump.
I better call Epstein.
And Trump's like, nothing to do with any part of the story, but his name's in the court documents, which gives the corporate press enough to lie about.
Now, Jimmy Kimmel responded.
He said, actually, can we play this clip?
Let's play this clip.
unidentified
Bring it up.
andrew meyer
Bring it up, Fox News.
unidentified
Somebody back here.
Seats on it.
andrew meyer
We have Super Bowl 58.
You'll see it.
The emblem put on the screen.
And then bring up 57 and 56.
unidentified
That's supposed to be coming out soon.
That's supposed to be coming out soon.
That's supposed to be coming out.
Look at this guy, he's been waiting in his wine cellar.
tim pool
I've been waiting in my wine cellar for this thing.
unidentified
A lot of people, including Jimmy Kimmel, are really hoping that doesn't happen.
Oh, geez.
All right, obviously a clip from this particular program was run on Jimmy Kimmel's show
whenever Aaron brought up the list and then Jimmy Kimmel.
tim pool
Yeah, so anyway, Aaron brings up the list and Jimmy Kimmel starts insulting him.
So Aaron Rodgers is like, he must be on the list, he must be terrified.
Now Jimmy Kimmel says, Dear A-Hole, for the record, I've not met Jimmy Kimmel, you can go shove it.
whatsoever with Epstein, nor will you find my name on any list other than the
clearly phony nonsense that soft-brained wackos like yourself can't seem to
distinguish from reality. Your reckless words put my family in danger. Keep it up
and we will debate the facts further in court. Jimmy Kimmel, you can go shove it.
Let me tell you, brother, when you rag on Aaron Rodgers in the exact same way, you
are not, you do not receive special permissions or qualifications or
protections over your own stupid arguments.
You put Aaron Rodgers' family in danger when you engage in the same public discourse he does.
So you know what that means?
Danger for you and your family is a normal part of life!
Grow up!
Stop crying about it!
And if you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen!
Because nobody likes you!
You're on TV because the corporate press puts you there.
That's about it.
But I tell you this, you take someone like Jimmy Kimmel, take him off his show, forgettable.
Is it forgettable?
shane cashman
He's the anti-comedy.
He's the guy I know him from wearing blackface, right?
That's the guy who wore a lot of blackface back in the day.
tim pool
That's it.
andrew meyer
You make a great point, Tim, saying that Jimmy puts Aaron in the same danger that he's accusing Aaron of putting him in.
tim pool
It's what these white people do.
andrew meyer
I would say that Aaron would be in more danger.
Steve Scalise was shot.
I can't remember the last time, I guess Gabby Giffords, but the last time a Democrat politician was shot.
It's the left-wing wackos that go and assassinate people.
tim pool
Dave Chappelle was attacked by a left-wing wacko.
andrew meyer
There you go.
tim pool
So that's another big story that we got is, we'll bring up in just a little bit, the Dave Chappelle special, The Dreamer, comes out.
And, you know, everybody's talking about his opening joke, where he's talking about Andy Kaufman, Jim Carrey, and says, you know, he talks about trans people, and it's going viral for this reason.
But what nobody's talking about is he does a very long segment in his special about how a fringe or an LGBT person tried to kill him.
And that's kind of crazy.
We watched the special and he's like, this guy jumped up on stage, lunged for me, they said he's got a gun.
Someone tries to disarm it, realizes it's actually a secret knife.
And this guy apparently was part of the LGBT community who was offended at what Dave Chappelle had said.
And I'm like, yo, this stuff's crazy.
So anyway, we'll get into all that stuff because we do have stuff to pull up on the Dave Chappelle thing.
But it's a funny thing about what Jimmy Kimmel does.
Jimmy Kimmel basically said of his friend, and a friend of ours, Dickie Barrett, he said he hoped he would die.
andrew meyer
Wow.
tim pool
So, Dickie refused to get the vaccine, gets fired.
And he said, he's been friends with Jimmy for decades, and, you know, he was praising Jimmy Kimmel.
But I'm like, I'm sorry, dude.
Jimmy Kimmel said on his show, it's real simple what you do.
The people who don't want to get vaccinated and like that horse-paced stuff, you say, get out, you don't get treatment.
And the people who get vaccinated, they get the treatment.
And I'm like, he's advocating for hospitals kicking out dying people because they don't Because they don't believe in your worldview.
Dude, the Hippocratic Oath.
Do no harm?
I'm wondering if that applies to, you must save somebody.
Like, would doctors be like, I'm not going to save you.
I don't have to hurt you.
unidentified
I'm not going to hurt you.
tim pool
I'm not going to save you either.
It's just disgusting, the kind of person that you have in the corporate world, in the corporate press.
But I will say as much as social media has been bad in a lot of ways with like TikTok, the algorithms and all that stuff, at least shows like this can exist and we can call out, we can exist to the extent that we can point out how psychotic Jimmy Kimmel is.
And I will tell you the good news because I want to ask you guys this about your holiday.
But, uh, I go to Christmas, and Thanksgiving was similar to this, but Christmas was wild, and I'm talking with people, and they're all saying, I know.
Yep.
And I'm like, you know, I'm getting people being like, what do you think is going to happen in November?
Because regular people in the suburbs are now being like, I don't know how this election could even happen.
I don't know what's going to happen in this country, and I'm like, I'm glad you are aware.
to a certain degree, that there is something going on.
Because you'll get these trolls on Twitter and they'll be like, nobody cares about this stuff, regular people don't care, go touch grass.
Homie, I went and touched grass and the people were freaked out.
They're buying gold from Costco to the point where Costco ran, was it Costco, right?
They were selling gold and they ran out.
People are freaking out over this stuff.
But I don't know, what happened with you guys?
When you go home for the holidays, do your normie relatives, are they freaking out?
phil labonte
I'm going to New Hampshire.
I mean, not really, you know?
tim pool
Yeah, you're going to New Hampshire.
You're going on a free stay.
phil labonte
Come on.
tim pool
Though not really.
I mean, the Free Stay Project.
phil labonte
My family is in Western Massachusetts.
My sister and her family and stuff.
And while they're not They definitely aren't considered right-wing.
They're fairly normies.
There's not a whole lot of attention being paid to the Democrats and to politics yet, but they're not masking up.
They're not like, oh, make sure you wear a mask to come to Thanksgiving or to Christmas dinner.
shane cashman
Yeah, I've noticed a lot of people who are not political junkies, or actually they're just apolitical, but they're noticing all the problems affecting their daily lives or their jobs.
They can't ignore it.
I think they've been asked to accept an unacceptable reality, and they're just like, something is really off in this world.
Everything's just off.
I've had a lot of those conversations.
tim pool
I think for a long time now, there's a good tweet about this, I forgot to tweet it,
it said that wokeness peaked in like 2020 and now it's fading away as people are finally less scared to speak up.
And I think what it is, people really did know that something was messed up,
but they were scared to speak up because everyone's looking around wondering who's gonna be the narc, who's gonna send
them a gulag.
Now that people are starting to feel more confident with the likes of, you know, our cultural victories and hard numbers and sales and declines in the boycotts, now people are feeling like this is the way to go.
I can speak now, finally, and they're not scared.
shane cashman
And they need to continue to speak, right?
Like, cause I remember there was a very small segment of time at, at the very beginning of lockdowns where a lot of us, maybe, maybe you guys, but I felt like the woke stuff was just disappearing.
Cause everyone was worried about like life, right?
Well, we're locking down.
How are we going to survive?
And then it came back in crazy.
phil labonte
That was because of George Floyd.
unidentified
Right.
shane cashman
And then, yeah.
And that catapulted into a whole new stratosphere of deranged like stuff.
And yeah, we're, there's a lot of stuff happening now.
It's good, but don't get too confident.
Like keep pushing back.
tim pool
I got a good one for you guys, because I was asked by an extended family member at a family party, how do you sleep at night knowing the things you do?
It was not an insult, it was just like, don't you like sweat?
Aren't you worried?
And I was like, I'm actually the least stressed out because of it.
When I- I was like, let me ask you a question.
If you closed your eyes and crossed a busy intersection, would you be scared?
You'd probably be crapping your pants.
Yeah, see, I know where the cars are going because I looked both ways.
Why would I be scared?
I know- I know what's coming.
I know what's happening.
I pay attention.
So, you know, if we get news that riots are erupting in all the major cities, I- I'm gonna know before you do.
So I'm actually not worried.
shane cashman
Yeah.
It's funny.
I think about that a lot because there was a point in time, maybe a decade ago, um, at that point I'm a teacher and I knew something was wrong, obviously with the, with the college world, something was, but I couldn't explain it.
I hadn't have like a set of language to describe it.
And then once I had a terminology and like, I'm like breaking it down, thinking about Marxism, all these things, I'm like, Oh, all this is starting to really make sense.
And at that point, 10 years ago, I was definitely depressed.
I didn't know what was going on.
I couldn't get ahead.
And I'm getting like, uh, applying for teaching jobs.
They say like white, straight white males can't apply.
I'm like, what the heck is going on here?
You know, but now I know, you know, and there's, there's definitely like, we've come a long way as a culture because everyone's talking about the Chappelle one.
The Ricky Gervais special is also pretty good.
It's not as good.
Yeah.
It's not as good as Chappelle, but I really like it.
But it's one of the telling things in the Gervais special is that he's saying like, Hey, to the audience, have you guys heard of CRT stuff?
And I'm like, we've been talking about that for a minute, right?
But it's like, now it's gotten to such a level in the mainstream Netflix comedy special world, where it's not surprising to hear Gervais talk about it, but it's kind of interesting to hear him address the crowd as if they'd never heard of it, you know?
Now, they're all laughing along to his jokes.
These are giant wins, for sure.
unidentified
He specified that in his- I think he actually called it Critical Race Theory.
phil labonte
Nice.
unidentified
Wow.
That's good.
shane cashman
He talks about a lot of stuff.
phil labonte
Go ahead.
shane cashman
It's really good.
tim pool
Sam Harris.
is like so broken.
And it's so well past the point of salvage.
Like we are at the point now where this inflection point happened, I think last year or two years ago,
where woke stuff really started becoming heavy cringe.
We saw the Bud Light boycott, we saw the Target boycotts.
Sam Harris tried playing this like, oh no, I'm gonna stick with the establishment machine
on this one.
and he's doubling, tripling, quadrupling down.
Every time he just doubles down, it's going to be like 2026, everyone in this country is going to be totally off all the corporate press BS, and Sam's going to be like, no!
shane cashman
No!
tim pool
And everyone's going to be like, dude, go be a Herm, he's going to have a big long beard and be like, argh!
shane cashman
Just meditate more.
tim pool
He just sacrificed all of his integrity.
It's fascinating to see.
But I bring him up because it's a good example of regular people who you know, you know, they know, but were so concerned about being ostracized.
Actually, let me pull up his meme.
phil labonte
A lot of people are very concerned with being ostracized.
That was the main carrot.
shane cashman
Yeah, no one wants to be called a bad word.
I mean, I don't care.
phil labonte
But a lot of people do.
By the time that it happened, I had already been on the outs with the polite society for, you know, since like 2013 was the first time that I kind of crossed the line.
You know, in 2000, like I have said all kinds of unapproved things.
So I was on, I've been on the outs.
Like I was, if, if I was canceled, cause I don't think that you can be canceled unless you allow yourself to be canceled until you start behaving like you've been canceled.
But if I was canceled the first time it was in like, 2012 or 13 before they were calling it canceled, you know, so it's like and that and my entire career or at least half of my career in the music industry was pushing back against the music industry that was getting more and more and more progressive.
tim pool
Check out this meme!
It's a comic.
And the guy says, I have strong opinions.
The other guy says, are they based on reality?
And he goes, they are based upon how I feel in my heart.
And then his heart says, I'm terrified that if I research and form opinions based on reality,
a wedge will be driven between me and my community, and I will lose my friends and family.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
This...
shane cashman
Not my heart.
tim pool
And I'm wondering, who's this extra fabulous guy who's not some right winger or anything like that?
These comics are just like Reddit comics that were there for like a decade.
But this sentiment is not what people on our side of this culture war experience,
because we're literally just speaking our minds and starting the political fights.
It is the woke and the default liberals who are living in that reality.
And we know it!
phil labonte
One of the things that's super important that we need to do, and I see a lot of the... I see problems arising on the right now with a lot of people that are Christians and a lot of religious people.
The way that we win is by bringing the Democrats back to their senses and get them making Democrats normal liberals that, you know, 20-15 years ago people like Tim would have been or considered themselves Democrats.
Get those people to realize that they have been lied to by the progressives.
That the whole A progressive project that has been the standard narrative essentially for the past 10 to 15 years is not built on the civil rights movement the way that they say it is.
It is a totally different philosophy, a totally different way of understanding the world, a different epistemology, a different way of knowing what they know.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story from Fox News.
Vivek Ramaswamy blasts CNN debate over exclusion, says only establishment insiders will be on stage.
Ramaswamy and former President Trump have announced their own town hall events.
I wonder if Fox News is framing it this way because they're doing their own town hall.
I think they're doing a town hall with Trump.
So, on the 10th of January, Tim Kast will be hosting a town hall event.
I don't know if we can call it.
It's a live stage event with a live audience with Vivek and we're still, we're cramming this thing together.
Basically what happens is we were planning on being in Iowa for the caucus on the 15th doing a special show.
It's a Monday so it's...
I don't know why I work so much, man.
I'm out of my mind.
It's expensive, it's extremely difficult, but we do it for you!
So become a member at TimCast.com, because seriously, you should.
We have to fly out Tuesday the 9th, right when the show, right after the show finishes, be on a plane to Iowa, and then I gotta wake up at 7 in the morning, 6am Iowa time, to record my morning show, and it's gonna be tough, but I wanna do it.
So we're planning this, and we wanted to find some good guests for the caucus, and of course, we got to talking to Vivek, who's been on the show a couple times, and Ultimately, we were like, we could come longer and do something from the 10th to the 15th.
So, you know what we ended up deciding to do is our own live event.
We're lucky we were able to get Vivek and we will be in Iowa with Vivek on stage.
Tickets are being sold.
I think they may be up now.
This thing's been rushed together super quick.
It's probably going to sell out super quick because there's only a very small number of tickets available.
And we're going to do our own version because I'm thinking to myself, screw CNN, screw their establishment insiders.
We're going to do our event.
We're going to do it.
And so, here's why I bring this up.
For one, we definitely want to announce that we're doing this.
It's big news.
Vivek is saying, screw off.
But in the previous segment, we were talking about how the media frames everything.
Take a look at this article in the New York Times.
Oh, I love to be included.
Thank you, New York Times, for writing about me.
Thank you, New York Times, for writing about right-wing commentator Tim Pool.
Vivek said he would instead do a live show with the right-wing commentator Tim Pool on January 10th, the night of the debate.
I love that.
Fox News said Vivek will participate in his own town hall event next week.
Well, okay, maybe they mean his own as in he's the sole guy on the show.
Fine.
We're basically doing the show live on stage.
I believe Luke and Seamus will be with us as well.
But you see how the media plays this game.
Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis are the establishment choices.
And I think this is why Donald Trump doesn't want to be on those stages.
He knows they're going to set up these debates in a way to prop up GOP and political insiders.
So surprise, surprise.
Same thing for Vivek.
Vivek actually announced he wasn't going to do it before CNN even announced who was qualified.
So I think it's funny that they say he blasts CNN over exclusion.
I think we actually have a... Let me pull up Vivek's tweet.
Here we go, here's the official announcement from Vivek, and I'll break down exactly what he said.
Vivek Ramaswamy tweets, forget CNN's fake Iowa debate on January 10th, which will be the most boring in modern history.
unidentified
I gotta agree.
tim pool
Look, with Chris Christie, we laugh.
With Vivek, we cheer.
With Vivek, Ron, and Nikki, you get an interesting establishment versus anti-establishment dynamic.
With just the two of them?
They're gonna be like, well, Nikki, I agree with everything you just said.
And then it's gonna be like that Futurama joke where, do you guys remember this one?
Was it the two clones?
And he's like, I think your tax proposal goes too far.
Well, I think your tax proposal doesn't go too far enough.
It's just so boring.
But anyway, he says.
We'll do that show with Tim Katz instead, we won't hold back.
Here's the back story on CNN shenanigans.
December 13th, CNN disgracefully cut short its own Iowa town hall with me
after I correctly pointed out uncomfortable truths about January 6th,
which CNN instantly dismissed as conspiracy theories.
On December 14th, CNN then threatened my campaign on the phone with a cease and desist,
and had YouTube black out the town hall after it got 200,000 plus views on YouTube in a matter of hours.
Yet Nikki Haley's CNN town hall was still about for six months.
68k total views.
Sad.
Later on the 14th, CNN notified my campaign that multiple qualifying polls,
which the RNC used for each of the RNC debates, mysteriously wouldn't count for CNN's fake debate in Iowa
on the 10th.
CNN's senior media reporter, Oliver Darcy, wrote a newsletter that castigated his own network for allowing me to infect the public with his conspiracy campaign.
Oliver Darcy, you are an evil person.
I hope you know this.
Because I've known Oliver Darcy for a long time.
I have met him in person on numerous occasions.
We know many of the same people.
But this is the... Oliver is an example of malicious evil.
Malicious evil.
Because I will tell you, Vivek is actually playing nice when he says January 6th looks like an inside job.
The fact is January 6th was an inside job.
That is a fact that is not in dispute.
The only reason the media is pretending there's a dispute is because they're lying to you.
Case in point, Capitol police officers escorted the shaman through the building to help him locate the Senate chambers and then opened the doors for him.
That does not mean that Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi teamed up and colluded.
It means that Capitol police officers who work for the government and our law enforcement facilitated many of the J6ers' misadventures.
I am not talking about rioters.
I am talking about the Capitol police who took selfies with people, got in trouble for it.
That's what an inside job is.
If a bank is being robbed and it turns out one security guard opened the door to let the robbers in, we call that an inside job.
So when Oliver Darcy comes out and says it was a conspiracy theory, he is lying to you intentionally because he knows everything I just said.
He is an evil person.
Anyway, I digress.
Commentator Van Jones said he was literally shaking when he heard Vivek speak, and my rhetoric is one step away from Nazi propaganda.
CNN anchor Anderson Cooper said I delivered a soliloquy of conspiracy theories.
That's just absolutely false and not true.
Vivek actually nailed everything perfectly, and was very light, actually.
CNN anchor Pamela Brown and chief investigative correspondent said Vivek has a history of peddling disinformation.
They're lying.
Anchor Caitlin Collins said I use reasonable tone to sell sinister lies to people who aren't paying close attention and might think what he is saying maybe is legitimate.
CNN's token conservative commentator, Alyssa Farah Griffin, said my rhetoric is damaging to the country.
So that's what Vivek put out this morning, announcing that he will be on the Timcast Live Town Hall instead.
And, uh, look.
It's a crazy world.
But we see through it.
And every day, we, more and more people are waking up to what CNN does.
The greatest example of this is when Caitlin Collins says, uses a reasonable tone to sell sinister lies to people who aren't paying close attention.
It's fascinating.
That's literally what Caitlin Collins is doing.
If you are watching CNN, you're literally not paying attention.
If you are reading Twitter, you are more, you're paying more attention.
So it's varying degrees.
Watching CNN is the opposite of paying attention.
It would be like, A dude who's selling balance bands and getting your medical advice from him.
And he's like, don't listen to the doctors, man.
Buy my rubber bands.
They protect you from illness.
You're like, yeah, wow.
Could you imagine people who didn't know the truth?
That's right.
That's what CNN is.
CNN is like those guys at the mall.
You know those balance things they would sell?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
There's a magic trick you can do.
Uh, magicians do this to, uh, I love this, let's jump in.
So, let's say a magician wants to, uh, preempt their trick, like create an idea.
They'll say something like, this is a magic wand, right?
And I can prove it.
Watch this.
Hold your arms out.
Put your feet together and hold your arms out.
They'll then push down on your arm and you'll fall over, of course.
He'll then say, now this magic wand, it's got magic powers, watch.
Hold out your hands.
He'll put the wand in your hand and then he'll pull down, but this time, no matter how hard he pulls down, you won't fall over.
It's called the Center of Gravity Illusion.
What you do is, the first time you pull down, you pull away.
You down and to the right at a slight, slight angle.
The second time, down and in at a slight angle.
One topples, one doesn't.
When they're holding the magic wand, you're like, see that proves them to go, wow, it's magic!
It grants you magic powers.
So what happens is these guys start selling these wristbands, claiming they improve your balance, and they do a literal magic trick to trick people.
Anyway, I tell you that because that's what CNN does.
They're, they're lying to your face.
Oliver Darcy, you're a scumbag.
And he's, him and Cailin Collins, and Cailin Collins, she worked for The Caller.
She knows what she's doing.
These people are malicious evil.
They know they're lying to you for profit, power, and money.
They're just bad people.
And they're, they're claiming they're, they're, they're the real, the real ones.
Imagine finding a guy in an alley with a bunch of syringes, and he's like, I'm a doctor, trust me, don't talk to your doctor.
You'd be like, wow, this guy knows the truth.
That's CNN.
andrew meyer
It's so funny to me, listen, you call Oliver Darcy an evil person.
He's the guy that got Alex Jones kicked off Twitter just because Alex was mean to him in Congress.
unidentified
Look at those eyes.
tim pool
Let's clarify.
Did Oliver Darcy get Alex Jones kicked off, or did Alex Jones get kicked off because of what he said about Oliver Darcy?
andrew meyer
I think Oliver Darcy was going around complaining, actively going and making reports and doing things like that.
tim pool
But if we don't know, we don't know.
I think Oliver helped with getting rid of ads for Infowars, and then Alex called him out, and then the video circulated, and then Twitter saw that as some kind of... The reason why I make this distinction is I think it's more likely that all the big tech companies colluded with each other to remove Alex, and that was the excuse Twitter was looking for to make it happen.
If we say Oliver Darcy did it, first of all, if he didn't do it, I don't want to say he did.
But more importantly, I think it's substantially more important to point out that Big Tech colluded all at the same time to remove Alex Jones.
Twitter was, I think, the last, and it was because they didn't have a strong enough reason to justify it.
So as soon as they saw this video, they went, get him!
So it's scarier and more...
Devastating when you realize massive multinational corporations were conspiring, as opposed to some guy we don't like sending an email, you know what I mean?
andrew meyer
I get it.
I just think it's hilarious that we're here talking about Oliver Darcy on, for what for me is a bit like, you know, Alex Jones Day, because tomorrow he's gonna be- his video game, Alex Jones Game, is gonna be on Steam.
tim pool
So- It's out already though, isn't it?
andrew meyer
Yeah, but it's gonna be on Steam for the first time tomorrow.
For how long?
Steam says it's all good to go.
They had no problem with it, thank God.
tim pool
And the video game is him, like, fighting zombies and demons and stuff, right?
andrew meyer
Well, he's on Epstein Island.
There's a character called The Rapist.
He looks very suspiciously like someone you might know.
There's a character called the Wicked Witch of the West Wing.
tim pool
Oh, that's a good one.
shane cashman
Are there not gay frogs?
andrew meyer
There are definitely gay frogs in the video game.
tim pool
Anyway, yeah.
That's what's going to be happening.
I don't know what else there is to say about this big thing we're doing.
I mean, we just kind of got a whole segment out of the announcement that we'll be doing this town hall with Vivek, but it's going to be a blast.
We're going to be in Iowa all Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and then the last show we're doing Monday.
You know, I just want to point out to everybody, it is bonkers degrees of difficulty to do stuff like this.
Because, uh, that means Monday night, at, uh, like 11pm central, we have to get on a jet and fly back to DC.
And then I gotta wake up in the morning for the morning show, so it's just, whew!
And we're probably gonna do this several times throughout the year, because this is the year to do it, man!
2024, baby, the primaries are gonna be hot!
phil labonte
Big deal!
tim pool
I'm just really curious what happens with, like, Look, Haley and DeSantis are both polling at like 10%, and it's really sad for DeSantis.
There was a point where DeSantis was the betting market favorite, which is wild.
And now he's beneath Nikki Haley.
phil labonte
This is typical of races, though.
I mean, I can't remember the last time a presidential candidate got in and A year and change before the election was the, you know, was leading unless they were the incumbent.
You know, look at Barack Obama when he first came in.
It took a while before he took the lead.
tim pool
I'm just gonna, I'm gonna go now.
Let me just say something everybody.
I get a lot of people, they say, Tim, you're so mean to people sometimes that they won't want to come on your show.
And I'm like, the people I'm mean to, I don't care if they come on my show, okay?
Anybody I call evil and like a scumbag, you know, I'm gonna call them that because that's how I feel.
And if that means they don't want to come on my show, fine!
Could you imagine if I was like, I better not call that evil prick a scumbag because then I won't be able to bring him on my show for internet points.
Sorry, not interested.
But let me just tell you.
I'm just gonna say all this stuff, which I probably shouldn't say, considering, but I'm gonna say it anyway.
Someone asked, why don't we get a debate with, like, RFK Jr.?
He won't do it.
RFK Jr.
won't do it!
And we've asked several times, okay?
I'll tell you this, if my team reaches out to you and says, would you be interested in any one of these, and they say no, I got no problem saying they will not do it.
Okay, and there are people like, yeah, but if you put them on blast for this, then, you know, they're never gonna want to come to your show.
Don't care.
If RFK Jr.
doesn't want to come on the show, he doesn't have to, he doesn't owe me any favors.
But if we, if we, if we give the potential for high-profile debates, that no one else can do, or high-profile conversations that no one else can do, and these people refuse to do it, then I'm going to point out they won't do it.
They want the safety blanket that is CNN.
And I'm not exaggerating.
I like Marianne Williamson a lot, but she won't do it either.
It was hard enough to get her on the show.
I like her.
I think she's a good person.
I think she's wrong about a lot of things.
I think we informed her of things she wasn't aware of.
And Marianne Williamson doesn't want to do outside debates because she is scared.
And RFK Jr.
is scared.
They are terrified that if they sit down on a show like this, we're gonna say Epstein List.
Who's on it?
And they're gonna go, uh-oh.
If I did CNN, they'd ask me really boring and easy questions.
Go for it.
I can't wait for the day that CNN finally closes its doors because we get more in the key demo than they do.
And then when you want to have the debate, it's going to have to be with Steven Crowder, Patrick Bet-David, Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, or Tim Kast.
Because sooner or later, that's going to be the game, and only people like Vivek Ramaswamy and Donald Trump, because he goes on these shows too, are going to be the ones who can make it in politics.
But for the time being, when someone says, why don't you get RFK?
We've asked him a million times.
He's scared.
Okay?
I'm not trying to be a dick, but we've been told like, look, you know, we can't do it.
With respect to Marianne Williamson, she told us explicitly, like, these debates on cable TV are like, we know what they're going to ask.
And a show like this, You don't even know, and I'm like, what do we do on this show?
We pull up the top trending news stories, and we will talk about them.
What's the big story right now?
The Epstein list.
What else?
Vivek is saying he's not going to the debate.
What do we got next?
Dave Chappelle's special.
If you cannot talk about the top trending news, you should not be in politics.
Go cry, go run home to your mama.
Because she'll comfort you while you cry and say, the man asks me a hard question.
Have fun.
phil labonte
What is Aleppo?
tim pool
What is Aleppo?
This is what they're scared of.
But you know, the Aleppo question is perfectly in line with corporate questions.
Absolutely.
And when Johnson couldn't answer that, or even patter effectively, well that said a lot about his ability to navigate the corporate press.
But I gotta tell you, man...
When people say things like, these debates should be hosted by like Joe Rogan or Tucker Carlson.
And I'm like, they absolutely should and there's a reason why they won't do it.
phil labonte
A lot of this stuff seems like there is still residual or a residual effect.
From the media being the reliable sources, and I don't think the politicians that or people that are hoping to to be in positions of power have caught up to the fact that there are the portion of the population that no longer believes the official narrative specifically because of COVID.
I mean, Most people agree that the average person didn't really need the COVID shot.
There are groups of people that, you know, some people don't think any COVID shot was good.
Some people are like, well, you know, if you were old or if you were, you know, if you had a compromised immune system, then it made sense.
And fair enough, fine.
There's room to disagree.
I don't care.
But the point is, because of the inconsistencies, because Because of the moving goalposts, because of the changing narrative from the media and from the government throughout the whole thing.
I think that the people in the U.S.
are far more open to non-official narratives, and I think that the fact that politicians won't come to places like this, don't want to go to places like Joe Rogan, blah blah blah.
I think that's because they haven't assimilated or internalized the idea that these places are important now because the establishment has hurt their credibility.
tim pool
Think about the structure of these debates on CNN versus what Vivek wants to do.
The structure of these debates on CNN is... Governor DeSantis.
With immigration happening in this country is a great crisis.
Can you tell us why it is that you have sent migrants to places like Martha's Vineyard?
Well, it's a great question, and I think immigration is a very important issue.
Now, my administration in Florida, we have the best record when it comes to schools.
In our schools, 5%, blah, blah, blah.
Thank you for your question.
And then you're like, that was 30 seconds and I have no idea what was said.
Now imagine when you come on a show like this, There was a point where people brought up, I remember a specific example, that Marianne Williamson didn't answer a question outright, and I just said, I kept asking it.
And then it's just like, you have to answer it.
Because, like, a conversation can't, it's not just that, it's like, I asked you a question, dude, you didn't answer.
I'm gonna have to say yes, but I asked you this.
phil labonte
These kind of shows demand a higher quality of politician.
Someone at least that's capable of actually interacting with the person in front of them.
tim pool
And Vivek wants to do that.
Vivek wants to go on the show where no matter what question you have for him, he's gonna answer it.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
And now here's the best, well I should say, that is the best part about, and probably why someone like Vivek is doing so well.
Their outright willingness just to say, throw me in the frying pan and I'll succeed.
andrew meyer
There's a great book called Amusing Ourselves to Death, and it talks about how the medium completely shapes everything.
Where we used to be a society that reads, and then we became a society that watches television.
Now we're becoming a society that watches podcasts.
And so, in this new frontier, If Trump weren't in the race, Vivek Ramaswamy would be ahead by 20 points himself because he's willing to go on Tim Kast, he's willing to go on Patrick Bet-David, he's willing to go on Alex Jones and actually have fully formed conversations and people see the authenticity and they see the level of competence.
You're not going to get that out of these establishment shills because they're only memorizing 25 second talking points.
They're not real.
All they care about is making a dollar.
tim pool
I want to stress this point.
Anyone who tells you that Vivek is wrong about January 6 being an inside job is lying to you, okay?
If you don't believe me, maybe it's the first time you've ever heard this, maybe a friend said, hey, you should listen to this podcast, and you turned it on, and you went, that's so crazy, it wasn't an inside job.
Just Google.
Google Q Shaman Escort.
Watch the video yourself.
And then tell me, since when is it not an inside job, when law enforcement Facilitating security of the building, assist the people they then later arrest, okay?
Like, they open the door for these people, take selfies with them.
They also work in the building for the government.
That's what inside job means.
That's it.
When Vivek says this, the woman on TV, she goes, where's your evidence that the Biden administration, blah, blah, blah.
Whoa, hold on!
Who said anything about that?
This is the game they play.
I'll say something like, January 6th was an inside job.
Oh yeah, what's your proof that Joe Biden orchestrated January 6th?
I never said Joe Biden orchestrated January 6th, I said it was an inside job.
They create a fake data point.
I've made this example over and over again about fact checkers.
They'll say, you'll watch a video of Donald Trump, uh, you know, uh, high-fiving Shinzo Abe.
And then a fact check will be, did, did Donald Trump high-five Shinzo Abe?
Dot, dot, dot.
On Sunday.
And then it'll say, false.
It'll give you this big, long screed about how Donald Trump did not high-five Shinzo Abe, uh, the late Shinzo Abe, mind you.
And then at the very bottom will say, well, he did high-five them.
He did not high-five them on Sunday.
They add that fake information to it.
Did Shane Cashman appear on TimCast IRL to discuss the election, Dave Chappelle, taxes, and other important American issues on Monday?
False.
He did not.
It was Tuesday.
That's the game they're playing.
And so what happens is, your friends and family, your liberal aunt and uncle and cousins watch CNN, and CNN is doing that all day.
When Vivek says January 6th looks like an inside job, then they come out and they go, and Vivek is claiming the Biden administration orchestrated January 6th?
Are these people out of their minds?
He never said that.
andrew meyer
I think their magic trick is starting to fail, though.
Like, were you saying earlier that they changed the center of gravity?
They're now calling you right-wing Tim Pool, and you're laughing about it.
You know, they're gonna have to start saying things like, extremist militia leader Tim Pool.
They're gonna have to keep- There's a limit.
They're gonna have to keep saying things that are insane, because the- what they're trying to push, Nowadays, it's mainstream, mainstream ABC to promote a boy chopping his genitals off.
Now he's a girl.
The things that they're trying to push are so far out of the main that they've had to change the center of gravity a lot.
tim pool
Well, let's talk about this story.
From SCNR.com, Dave Chappelle compares Jim Carrey role to trans people.
This is taking the internet by storm.
Dave Chappelle's new comedy special, The Dreamer, is out, and the first joke he makes In his special.
It's a masterclass in comedy.
I think, how long is it?
Like seven minutes long?
shane cashman
It's a good build up.
tim pool
He tells this long story.
It's an emotional rollercoaster.
My dad died and he says I'm in distress.
shane cashman
Norm Macdonald and Andy Kaufman are in it.
tim pool
Norm Macdonald calls him on the phone and says, would you like to meet Jim Carrey?
And Dave says, I'm such a big fan.
He then goes on to praise Jim Carrey as like a natural talent that you just can't learn.
He gives this really long story about how he finally met Jim Carrey.
Jim Carrey is method acting as Andy Kaufman.
So when he shows up, they're like, don't call him Jim, call him Andy.
And he's like, what?
And he's like, this is so weird.
And he's like, In hindsight, how amazing was it to get to witness this artist in one of his most powerful roles?
You know, but at the time, I gotta admit, I was disappointed.
And then after this big, long story, and he's like, so there I am.
I know that's Jim Carrey, but they're making me say Andy.
And the reason I tell you this story, that's how trans people make me feel.
Like that whole buildup was for that kind of bang, like a shotgun blast.
Now, here's why this is important.
Dave Chappelle immediately then afterwards insults handicapped people, conservatives, Madison Cawthorn specifically.
Specifically.
Specifically Madison Cawthorn.
He goes off on Madison Cawthorn.
phil labonte
It is brutal!
Does he make a cripple joke too while he's at it?
tim pool
The whole thing is mocking him for being handicapped.
He says he lost his re-election.
shane cashman
He lost his seat.
tim pool
He lost his seat.
He ran a bad race and the crowd is losing it.
And then he goes on to claim that the only reason anyone would invite Madison Cawthorne to an orgy, and then he imitates a paraplegic getting... gangbanged.
shane cashman
I was wondering if you were gonna bring that up.
tim pool
But the reason I bring this up is...
Dave Chappelle did not single out the trans community.
He literally made fun of anybody he could.
And back-to-back.
Because he's not actually trying to insult trans people.
He's making jokes.
He then makes jokes about handicapped people.
He makes jokes about Republicans.
Asians.
He makes jokes about Asians.
And in the same joke, makes a joke about black people.
He's just ribbing on everybody and everyone's loving it.
Here's why I say all of it is important.
Dave Chappelle is the GOAT.
unidentified
Okay?
tim pool
They call him the GOAT.
The greatest of all time.
When he releases a Netflix comedy special, which is number one, by the way, right now, it's hilarious.
And he says, this is how I feel, and I can joke about these things.
He is telling regular people, it is now okay for you to joke as well about conservatives, about the handicapped, about Asians, about black people, about trans people.
We just have jokes.
He's basically setting that line in the sand.
So now, you know, over the past several years, you've had people who are scared to do comedy, Jerry Seinfeld talked about all those years ago, college campuses are insane, all these people getting cancelled.
Dave Chappelle comes out and says, you can't cancel me.
They tried, they couldn't do it.
20 million dollars for a comedy special, and the first joke he does was about trans people, and he follows it up by saying, I'm not gonna, if you thought you were gonna come to this show, and to hear me joke about these people, you thought wrong.
I'm not gonna joke about these people, it was not worth it!
Maybe three or four times.
shane cashman
He does an impression of a handicapped person who came to his show to hear trans jokes and then is disappointed that he's hearing handicapped jokes, but that is then later happy when he hears handicapped or trans jokes again.
It's brilliant.
And like, I think his audience and a lot of audiences, it was DC and it's a barometer of the culture, right?
Like that's the audience was just in love, right?
And there's that, that feels really good to see that.
tim pool
When the whole crowd erupts in cheers when he finishes the first joke about Andy Kaufman, I was like, wow, dude, a DC liberal audience is cheering and clapping for what he just said about how he feels when he's told he has to act like someone is someone else.
And then when he mentions Madison Cawthorne, someone goes, oh, in the audience, like clearly not a conservative, not a fan.
But there are a lot of people now that saying wokeness is dead.
It's been dying out.
It was never popular to begin with.
People were just too afraid of cancel culture.
When someone like Dave Chappelle stands up and says, dude, I don't care.
I'm telling a joke and you can't do anything about it.
He basically plants a flag and now regular people can stop being scared and call out the crackpots that they don't like.
phil labonte
That's part of the reason why 2024 is going to be kind of or one of the many factors that is going to make 2024 kind of crazy.
The people that are interested in social justice as legislation, they are going to be holding on to power.
They're going to be doing whatever they can.
To pass legislation that benefits their ideology.
And it's the same thing as when the Allies were going towards Germany.
They just ramped up the killing of Jews because it's an ideology.
Part of their ideology was kill the Jews.
Part of the ideology of the left right now is to implement social justice stuff into law.
So they're going to be doing all they can to ram laws that are as permanent as possible through before the election in order to, in their opinion, hopefully push this as far as they can because it's likely they see that there's going to be a swing back of the pendulum.
andrew meyer
I'm glad that they've overreached and they've gone so far.
It's like jujitsu.
We can use their own momentum against them because they've gone so far, people don't agree with it, that Dave Chappelle making what seems to be an inoffensive joke to anybody in the world is completely offensive to these people to the point where they want to kill him.
And shout out to Dave Chappelle, by the way.
The only person to make a funny joke about me that I enjoyed from the Don't Taze Me Bro thing like 15 years ago.
The only one that made a joke I enjoy, so shout out to Dave Chappelle, and I'm glad he's doing his own material and not just copying Owen Benjamin anymore.
unidentified
Just kidding, just kidding!
tim pool
Well, you got made fun of by Dave Chappelle.
andrew meyer
Yes.
tim pool
And that's, when we were watching it, and his second joke in the act is mocking Madison Cawthorn, I was like, man.
How lucky is Madison Cawthorn?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
He was a member of Congress.
I mean, not like, not like, uh, you know, he probably would have been happier if he didn't get primaried, but for Dave Chappelle to do a comedy special, making fun of you as a member of Congress, you are, you are immortal.
The joke he makes about you in that moment, and he says he saw him and he yelled, Hey, Congressman, and he looks over him and he's mad.
And he's like, and then I, and then I, and then I walked away.
I wanted to see him do something.
I wanted to see me.
I wanted him to see me do something he couldn't do.
That's what he says.
I'm like, yo, if that were me, I was getting made fun of by Dave Chappelle, I'd be like, man.
shane cashman
Honor.
Honor.
It's a total honor.
It's like why I love shows like Kill Tony too, like Tony Hinchcliffe, like just roasting people.
That to me is the way, that's my favorite type of comedy.
Not just the surreal stuff, which I also like, but people just ragging on you.
It feels, that's catharsis.
And that's why a lot of like, when I saw Louie get like quote unquote canceled all those years ago, I was like, that was the beginning of me really understanding like, they're going to take out Artists and comedy first because those are the people who subvert the whole power structure, right?
And then Louie handled it, I thought, very poorly with the apology and stuff.
And Chappelle did the opposite thing.
He just doubled down, which I appreciate that.
I mean, to me, I'll just say to me, it's like, that's more punk rock.
What Chappelle does is punk rock.
You know, Louie didn't.
phil labonte
When I got one of the times when people were like giving me crap in response, I wrote a song called Never Sorry.
shane cashman
That's how you do it.
That's exactly how you do it.
Like you were saying earlier, you only let yourself be cancelled.
They can't do it to you.
Of course you can lose your jobs and stuff, and they've got normal people in the world who lose their jobs, but once you apologize, that gives them all the power over you.
phil labonte
You're admitting guilt.
shane cashman
Unless you did something wrong and you feel bad for it, go ahead and apologize.
That's so rare with this stuff.
phil labonte
When you are going to apologize, you have to apologize to a person that possesses the ability to forgive you.
When you apologize to a community, no one has the power to forgive you, and they're gonna use it against you in the future, because you've admitted to it, and then five years, two years, whatever down the road, when you pop up in someone's sights again, and they're like, oh, I remember that guy, he did this terrible thing that we can crap on him again, so all I'm gonna do is bring this up, and we can totally disregard what he says.
Don't give them the power.
Don't say I'm sorry, because then you're telling them, I consent to your authority over me.
You're demanding an apology, so I will allow you to have that power over me.
shane cashman
Exactly.
tim pool
Get effed.
phil labonte
You have no power.
shane cashman
Don't be afraid to be called anything, any bad words.
tim pool
Elon buying Twitter was massive.
phil labonte
Absolutely.
andrew meyer
I was here just about a year ago, and I was banned from Twitter.
Not allowed.
I shouted out a bunch of people.
Patriot J, Old Rose Swig, all banned.
And today, they're all back.
Alex Jones is back!
phil labonte
Patriot J is great.
tim pool
Alex Jones is back.
shane cashman
Shout out Patriot J. Crazy.
andrew meyer
It's a different world with Alex Jones back on Twitter and with Elon letting him grow and grow and grow.
So 2024, it's the best of times, it's the worst of times.
You know, hundreds of thousands coming through the southern border, but at the same time, Alex Jones being popular and mainstream on Twitter.
Very, very different year we're gonna have.
It feels like meme magic is here in full effect.
shane cashman
That that is one thing I'm afraid of, though, because the counterculture is going to swing so hard back and now with people like Alex back.
But I feel like they're going to find a way to subvert our subversion, you know, like they're going to find a way to just turn off the power.
phil labonte
Well, the thing is, that bothers me when you're when you're subversive or when you're when you're dealing with people.
Like, you know, in the world that we deal in, we're outside of the mainstream narrative.
Like, just because you hear a story that's outside of the mainstream narrative doesn't mean it's true or it's right.
And that's one of the things that the people that are outside of the mainstream need to be focused on right now.
Just because someone that is looked at as outside of the acceptable conversation says something doesn't mean they're correct.
In fact, you have to be more careful.
andrew meyer
We've had that fire drill once before.
The QAnon thing, everybody saw, QAnon's not real.
I think people are a little wiser than they were last go-around, that people are being able to spot whatever they're trying to throw at us.
tim pool
I think there is a decent probability of some kind of cyber 9-11, people call it.
And that something, because I think it was like, was it Bill Gates who was talking about this?
The risk of our digital infrastructure and cyber attacks?
Imagine this scenario.
First, let me just say, I don't know the probability, but I think there is a possibility, considering the stakes of 2024.
The internet has gone down before.
There have been cyber attacks over the past several years, we know them, and then there was one where Google actually went down, and all of a sudden nobody could get to their websites, because people don't actually type in the websites, they type in the word, press enter, and it pulls up Google, which they then click the thing.
When I'm searching for things on Twitter, I don't search Twitter, I search Google.
I'll type in like, Phil Labonte Communist Meme X, and then it'll pop up with like his latest post and I'll click it, that's how I find it.
So when Google went down, I forgot exactly what happened, all of a sudden internet traffic dropped dramatically.
Imagine a scenario where, for some reason, the internet is just down.
Just in general.
And the only information going out is through terrestrial television.
CNN, Fox News, MSNBC.
Imagine during the election we get some kind of attack and that's what happens.
Imagine if just before the election something like that happens.
They can then say whatever they want without being fact-checked by anybody else and no one can discount them.
There may be a scenario like that, I don't know.
It could be like, oh no, we get attacked and the infrastructure goes down, oh we better fix it, we don't know what's going on.
It's an act of war which we then use to justify some kind of escalation somewhere else, but then also allows them to basically say to a show like ours, if you want to stay on the air, it's going to cost you like, what do they charge, a thousand bucks an hour or something for a dedicated satellite?
What y'all need to understand about the way YouTube works, this is only possible, this show is only possible, because YouTube pays for the streaming costs.
What people need to understand is, when we are streaming right now at about 6,000 kilobits per second, that means for the 45,000 people watching it, receiving between 2,000 and 6,000, multiply that.
Multiply that 6,000 by 45,000 and you'll get the actual data transfer.
There's no possible way we could afford that.
It's only possible because of these website subsidies.
So when you see, like, Rumble, they're spending a pretty penny to get those shows out because they want to make that work.
So shout out to Rumble.
YouTube, of course, is subsidized by Google.
It's not that extreme.
We may actually be able to, like, what we would just do is, it's $10 a month, subscribe to the show, and then we could use that money to pay for the stream and all that stuff.
But it just basically, it would make it so that literally anybody who wants to watch has to pay.
I believe that's their best attack vector for shutting down the kind of things that they do.
unidentified
I agree.
shane cashman
I mean, there's been so many reports about the internet apocalypse and they're worried about solar flares.
But from what I'm hearing, solar flares wouldn't probably affect it.
I think what they would do is blame it on a solar flare and then just shut it off, you know, on their own.
and then prevent us from subverting the narrative like a lot of us were doing during lockdowns
or talking about election stuff.
That's gonna be tough.
That's why I've been very open in my community about how I feel about everything.
I'm building a people in my immediate community who I know I can trust and agree with.
Maybe nothing will happen, but I don't wanna be in a spot again
where I'm surrounded by a bunch of idiots like I was in New York
and not handle like the society just being ripped to shreds.
andrew meyer
I think even the speculation of us talking about this, it puts a wrench in their plans.
Because if everybody is thinking ahead of time, oh, these people want to do something evil to stop us.
If something like this were to go down, everyone knows where to point the finger.
So, Tim speculating like this, Alex Jones when he speculates on grand conspiracies, these things help to put a wrench and stop their plan.
So, I'm glad that we're doing this right now.
People are thinking ahead.
What are these evil bastards thinking of next?
Everybody's looking.
This is the source.
This is the problem.
And, you know, hopefully people pull the lever and figure out Donald Trump is where we need to go 2024.
unidentified
Let's see.
tim pool
I have a couple stories.
I want to start with this one from the New York Post.
This is crazy.
So apparently what happened was this guy loaded his SUV with explosives, I believe it was gasoline or something, and he was trying to ram a crowd of people.
As an Uber pulled out, he then T-boned the Uber, killing the people inside.
And injuring several others around it.
But I believe that Uber may have inadvertently saved many lives.
It's a wild story.
This happened, I believe, it happened on the 1st.
And they believe it may be a terror attack.
It's being investigated as an act of terrorism.
We will see.
But what a way to kick off 2024.
So as we're seeing stories like this, you know, I get to thinking about the conversations I had with family.
extended family members over the holiday and they ask questions about like do you really like you talk about civil war but like what what's the likelihood you really think and I'm just like time travel test man if you went look right now the corporate press says that a bunch of men conspired to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer now obviously we can test a lot of those allegations the corporate press says that January 6th an insurrection was attempted To all these leftists who are calling me crazy for saying I fear civil war, they're the same people claiming that Donald Trump literally tried to start a civil war.
It's the weirdest thing.
Like, Donald Trump tried to overthrow the government in a coup with his supporters who stormed and attacked the Capitol.
Civil war will never happen.
Then you're not scared of Trump and his supporters and MAGA in 2024?
Eris Rousinos, I'm probably pronouncing his name wrong.
I worked with him briefly when I was at Vice News.
He's a good dude.
He says, he writes for UnHerd, the world should fear 2024.
Escalation lurks on every battlefield.
Now, of course, he talks mainly about foreign policy, but he does mention in the article that escalation exists in American domestic discourse as well.
So I think Man, you know, we got a super chat already saying, beware the Ides of March.
I'm like, come on, bro.
That's like three, it's like two and a half months from now.
Literally, it's two and a half months from now.
shane cashman
Wow.
tim pool
When we had Eric Prince on just before the end of the year, I asked him, is there something like, what does he see here in the United States?
Does he see anything happening, you know, akin to this with what he's seen in other countries?
And he said, the one thing that every guy Who's been in a civil war revolution period and conflict and crisis can tell you is that it happens overnight.
One day, everything's normal, you wake up, there's no electricity, there's no radio, there's no internet.
That's what people don't realize.
You may go outside and go to the mall and you're like, everything feels normal.
And this is the normalcy bias that people on Twitter talk about on X. They'll say, oh, you guys talk about all this stuff, go touch grass.
Because when you go to the mall, when you go to the movies, no one cares about any of this stuff.
And I'm like, right.
In Egypt, during the revolution, nobody cared about this stuff.
So let me tell you.
I went to a place called Utqiagvik.
Do you guys know what that is?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Do you know what Barrow, Alaska is?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Yeah, they changed the name in 2016.
The native, I believe it's the Inupiaq people, Referred to the area as Utqiagvik.
Ut... is it Utqiagvik?
Yeah, it's Utqiagvik.
And when Western settlers came, they referred to it as Barrow, Point Barrow or whatever.
And then those settlers built up a trading post in a city that they called Barrow.
In 2016, a group of activists, this is what I was told by some of the locals that I'd met.
They said that like 86 people voted.
It's a town of 4,500 people.
It's like 86 people voted and it was like by one or two votes to change the name to Utqiagvik.
And so I was like, the school says Barrow on it.
The airport calls it Barrow.
The airlines call it Barrow.
The airport is called Barrow, B-R-W.
But they changed the name.
It was like 40-something people.
And I'm like, Forty-something people voted and changed the name of your city, and he goes, it's still Barrow.
I heard that from several people.
And I tweeted about it.
I was like, wow, dude.
Some decolonized activists were like, this place is called Utqiagvik, not Barrow, so we're going to hold a vote.
Nobody shows up.
Nobody cared.
And so, 40 people.
I tweeted this out, and it's really funny, because I got a mix of people who are like, you're racist for not supporting indigenous people's rights, even though I did not criticize the name change at all.
The point I made was twofold.
Do not let a small group of psychopaths change your community without your consent, and more importantly, That famous saying, let it never be said that a small group of dedicated people can't change the world.
Indeed, it's the only thing that ever did.
40 some odd people decided to change the name of that city and they did it!
That was my point.
And then I get people being like, you just hate natives and Native Americans.
And I was like, I'm from Illinois, dude.
I don't care that they call it Utqiagvik.
That's fine.
I have friends from Algonquin.
The names of all of our places are native.
I don't care.
phil labonte
Are the Eskimos or the Inuit people, are they really all that angry at the white man?
It's not like the white man took their land.
Nobody wants that property up there.
tim pool
I don't believe so.
I believe actually a good portion of the people Again, I'm not from there, so I don't know, but the way it was explained to me is that this is probably like white liberals, woke people.
I was told woke people.
So yes, it probably does include some of the indigenous, but the natives Didn't really talk about it all that much.
I don't know, it didn't seem like it was an issue.
Mostly when I met one native guy who's really excited to explain how they kill whales.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And it was wild how he told us how they do it.
phil labonte
He's been talking to the same ten people for the past thirty years.
tim pool
Oh yeah, and then he sees us and he's like, here's what we do.
I can tell!
phil labonte
The same stories to these new people and they're gonna react differently.
tim pool
This is gonna be awesome!
Dude, the native dude who explained whaling did not come up to us and be like, the white man did this and did that.
He was like, let me tell you how we kill whales.
And I'm like, it's illegal for us to kill whales.
And he's like, yeah, but not us.
I thought that was kind of crazy too.
But it was wild to see.
As we're coming into 2024, I'll remind people of I'm in Egypt during the revolution, and I went to Heliopolis, went to the mall, and people were buying burgers and just living their life, and I got a kebab, it was delicious.
And I went to a store and I bought a cell phone.
It was like nothing was happening.
Meanwhile, there was a revolution in Tahrir Square.
Blackhawks flying overhead, APCs through the streets, people were shooting and killing each other.
But that's a block away at the McDonald's.
Seriously, it's like two blocks from McDonald's.
Two blocks away, I think, from McDonald's.
Front Tower Career, there's a guy just eating a burger and fries and watching soccer.
phil labonte
If more people had a first-hand experience with that or knew someone that did and understood that, there would be far fewer people saying that a civil war will never happen in the United States.
Because a civil war absolutely could happen in the United States, doesn't mean that everybody's going to be involved.
Doesn't mean that people aren't still going to go to war.
tim pool
It's never everybody.
It's always some tiny, tiny faction.
And the issue is, you take a look at what happened with the culture war and the shift.
Most regular people did not like wokeness, but were too afraid to say anything.
Think about how many people didn't want to go along with the mandates, but did because they were scared that they couldn't do it.
There's one video where a guy, a woman's filming and a guy is stalking her in a supermarket.
Saying, she's not wearing a mask!
If we have to wear masks, she has to wear masks!
phil labonte
You see what they were really mad about?
tim pool
The oppression, and they want, you know, misery loves company.
So anyway, my point is this, as we're seeing this stuff entering 2024.
Dude, if the people who are on Twitter are like, go touch grass, these people have no idea what conflict is actually like.
Go watch the videos from the destruction of Aleppo and what will you see?
You'll see people walking with bags of groceries through rubble-filled battlefields with gunfire.
Someone's going grocery shopping.
You talk to that person what they're worried about in their back.
Oh, I got to get milk for my family.
Yeah, that's touching grass.
andrew meyer
I think the pain points are starting to increase though because the guy that just wants to go get milk for his family.
What happened to the price of that milk?
What happened to the price of the pump?
And I think hundreds and hundreds of thousands of migrants.
We keep seeing the videos.
I just was in the Phoenix airport.
You could see the illegal immigrants all over the floor over there, just like Ashley St.
Clair and Taylor Hanson took video of.
In Europe, when you had that number of migrants, and now they're coming from Africa, they're coming from the Middle East, it's not just... It's like they've emptied out Central America already into America.
When you have that level of migrants, they're doing inordinate amounts of crime, crazy amounts of crime.
And the pain points of everyday Americans, we keep having this many people come through the southern border, that pain point is going to increase to the normies paying attention.
I think that normies are actually starting to get tuned into a crazy level than they used to be.
tim pool
That video that Marjorie Taylor Greene posted where you can see the thousands running under the barrier and running in, when I showed that to normies, They flipped out.
andrew meyer
Yeah.
tim pool
And I'm not exaggerating.
They were just like, what is that?
What's going on?
And I'm like, that's our border right now.
And they're like...
We don't have a country anymore if that's the case.
phil labonte
Most people are like Marianne Williamson.
She was appalled at most of the things that we showed her.
She had no idea.
Completely and totally ignorant.
And this woman is running for president and ostensibly has access to as much information as she could possibly want.
But like we were talking about earlier, people are afraid to go to platforms like this or come to places like this.
And because of that they are fed a narrative that is not based in reality that is not based in facts on the ground and they they look at.
shane cashman
Actual real things when they hear about them and they they're shocked just the other night I was hanging out with some other parents that we know and there.
Fairly apolitical, but they understand more or less, you know, what kind of what's going on, but not to any degree that we talk about.
And I felt, I started to feel bad because I was telling them about my reporting from Yuma and I felt like I was breaking their hearts and their spirit because they were so appalled.
And I'm like, and I kept going because I'm like, I'm not even done.
I have so much more to tell you that it is so crazy dystopian down there.
And I could see it in their eyes being like, This is insane.
Um, it's so alarming.
And then back to the civil war stuff.
I always think about the day before lockdown in New York in the suburbs where I was, I, it dawned on me to go report from a gun store and see what was going on.
Cause there was like this fear being pumped in.
I was thinking about there's this band Phil, you know, I'm talking about every time I die, they have a lyric called paranoia is the disease of the unarmed.
I think that's from last night in town.
And I thought of that sentence, that lyric, and I was like, I'm gonna go to the gun store and see what's going on.
It's a great line.
I went to the gun shop.
It was mayhem.
There were people running in who never owned a gun, buying rifles and shotguns.
I saw two people in such panic mode leave their guns there after they bought them.
I saw another guy outside leave his gun on the car and drive off without it.
There was nothing on the walls anymore.
The ammo was gone.
I got a lot of ammo for my shotgun, but like, it was crazy watching people.
And so like at that point, society hadn't collapsed the way it has now.
And they were just afraid of other people and they got to protect themselves.
tim pool
And my favorite thing about it was in California, there's a guy who owned a gun store, posted a video and he was like, stop yelling at me that you can't buy a gun.
It's not my fault.
You voted for wait periods.
You voted for these restrictions and now you have to abide by them.
Here's the reality though.
It was funny to watch.
But these liberals didn't vote for anything.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
This is the issue with wokeness.
Ut Giagvik exemplifies it.
When the vote was announced that they were going to change the name, 4,500 people said, I don't care.
And you know what?
To be fair, I honestly don't care the name is Utqiagvik versus Barrow.
Like I said, I'm from Illinois.
You know, they initially wanted to name West Virginia Konawa.
These are Native American terms.
In Illinois, you've got, like I mentioned, Algonquin.
A lot of these places are named by the Native Americans because the colonists who came in didn't just make up new names for it.
They said, what's it called?
Illinois.
Okay, great.
We'll call it Illinois.
Right?
And then there's many things that they did name.
That's totally fine.
On this issue though, my point is, a small amount of people who do care will take from you everything you hold dear if you don't pay attention.
So when this guy tells me it's still called Barrow, I'm like, buddy.
No, it's not.
We went to a restaurant, and there was this old guy who was like, I've been here for 47 years.
And there's very few restaurants.
It was top of the world.
It was, it was great.
And I had reindeer.
Delicious.
shane cashman
Did you eat on Christmas?
tim pool
No, we weren't there for Christmas.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
But we ate a lot of reindeer.
Like everything's just got reindeer up there.
Because they farm them.
They farm reindeer for meat.
And so, this old guy, a separate guy asked him, I was like, I see on the map it says Utqiagvik, but the airport says Barrow.
And he goes, it's Barrow.
And they all said basically the same thing.
A bunch of, like a small group of people voted, and now everyone's claiming it's the official name, but it's Barrow.
And I'm just like, my guy, when you die, it's Utqiagvik.
shane cashman
Right.
tim pool
Have a nice day.
shane cashman
It's like states and cities do it too.
It reminds me of like the Tappan Zee Bridge in New York.
It's now the Mario Cuomo Bridge, but no one calls it that.
tim pool
Willis Tower.
shane cashman
Willis Tower?
tim pool
Yeah, Sears Tower.
shane cashman
Oh, right.
tim pool
You go to Chicago, in official reports, they'll say the Willis Tower, but the average person will call it the Sears Tower.
shane cashman
Wow, that's crazy.
Yeah, and there's a ton of roads like that in New York.
No, but they try.
They do the signs.
tim pool
Guaranteed rate field.
shane cashman
Oh, all the stadiums that are now named after banks are disgusting too.
It's so gross.
tim pool
But my point with 2024 is, simply put, all these people who are like, a civil war won't happen because most people don't care.
unidentified
Bro.
tim pool
You may end up in a period where they change the name of your city, and you'll be like, I didn't even know that was happening.
Because the activists are paying attention.
They're organized.
They know what's up.
And they're ready for action.
andrew meyer
I think we're in an era of consciousness.
It's not so much force anymore.
And if the people really want change, We can actually have an election.
Even with everything that they did in 2020, all the irregularities, I think that if the amalgamation of the energy of the people is such that we deserve a good king, then a good king will sit on the throne.
If people return to God, if people pray, if people love their neighbor, they do the right things, we can have a good king in this country.
And I'm not gonna...
I see your scenario.
The other side always wants to do evil.
And when you're talking about civil war, I'm thinking about all these hundreds of thousands of migrants.
That would be the war.
It's an invasion.
A lot of these people are from all kinds of organizations.
They can activate to do crazy things in this country.
That type of scenario exists, for sure.
But I just look at things like, how can the good people win?
That's always the scenario I'm looking at.
How can the good people win?
And if people return to God, we can have a good king, we can save America.
tim pool
A potential scenario I see is that Donald Trump wins, we cheer.
It's a tough battle, but Donald Trump wins, and one of the first things he does is begin what will be the largest deportation ever seen.
andrew meyer
Which he promised.
tim pool
Which he promises.
And then you will get videos and photos of the Trump administration and the National Guard and the Army rounding up immigrants, illegal immigrants, onto trains and buses, and of course they're going to be held in camps and holding facilities, and then when the Civil War starts, They're going to show pictures of what Trump did with the immigrants to what Hitler did with the Nazis, and they're going to say, never again, don't let it repeat, and they're going to use that propaganda to rally people.
Then, the left activists will be able to go to illegal immigrants and say, would you like to defend your right to be here?
Fight with us.
So, potential scenario.
I'm not saying likely, probable, I'm just saying a potentiality is Donald Trump has promised the largest deportation we've ever seen.
You have 8 to 10 million illegal immigrants and every day 10,000 more.
Donald Trump will have to put them on trains and buses.
They will have to be brought to camps.
Chicago is already building camps.
I want to stress this.
Chicago, it got delayed.
It's postponed.
It may not happen, I'm not sure.
But they announced they're going to be building a migrant camp.
What do you think it's going to look like?
Do people think these things are going to look like they're going to be slums?
They're going to be places with limited resources, where the people will be screaming and complaining, living in their own filth, and they're going to be confined to it because there's too many of them.
The people of Chicago are complaining.
What happens in that scenario?
Where a civil war does start in 2025 or 6, and they use these images to make it look like Trump is Hitler, claiming he's doing it, it's happening again, blah blah blah.
They already called the migrant detention centers concentration camps.
What I'm saying here is not something I just made up off the top of my head.
I'm saying, AOC already said he has concentration camps.
Donald Trump does.
Donald Trump has already promised deportation effort.
Several cities have already announced they're going to build camps.
Alex Jones called this, by the way, like 15, 20 years ago.
phil labonte
Yeah, he did.
tim pool
He said that FEMA is going to set up detention centers, likely for illegal immigrants.
20 years later, we'll see, we'll see.
Maybe we'll add some more money to Alex Jones' rate jar.
But based on the pieces that are already on the table, I'm like, oh.
Combine them.
Donald Trump mass deportation effort, mass illegal immigration, AOC and Democrats saying concentration camp.
They are going to produce tons of propaganda to liken Donald Trump to Hitler to use as a rallying cry.
After that, we speculate.
If conflict breaks out, they're gonna try and make it seem like World War II and they're the good guys.
andrew meyer
I just don't think that they're popular anymore.
I see the scenario you're trying to play out.
I see the propaganda that they can push.
tim pool
Popular doesn't matter.
shane cashman
I was gonna say the same thing and then I was then thinking about what Tim was saying about there's a small group of people it takes to be insane to cause it, you know, which could be the case.
tim pool
How many people in Seattle are willing to go outside and walk up to Antifa armed with AR-15s and tell them they're GTFO?
Because the answer was none.
So, even though, I think it's fair to say, you knock on any door in Seattle and say, how do you feel that the far left is with guns taking over Capitol Hill?
They're going to be like, hey man, I think that sounds crazy.
I'm with you man, but I just don't want to say anything.
We all know the majority of people were like, yeah, I totally agree with you on Trump, but I better not speak up.
Owen Schroer goes to prison and the guards say, yeah, I like what you do, man, but I'm just doing my job.
This country is rife with evil.
andrew meyer
I sent Owen a bunch of books, by the way.
Funny little story.
I sent Owen Schroer a bunch of books while he was in jail.
They returned the envelope to me with like a dirty wife beater shirt in it.
So they opened it.
He told me they didn't give him the books, so they took them.
And they returned the envelope to me with like a dirty shirt in it.
Just a funny little story.
unidentified
That is bizarre.
andrew meyer
Yeah, bizarre.
tim pool
This is my point.
Let's say woke people make up like 10 to 12% of the country.
But we know that they're violent and they're angry and they're crazy.
So a large percentage of them are organized and could mobilize.
Let's say they do.
In a place like Seattle, if Donald Trump gets elected, and he does begin, you know, arresting people, we already saw a guy tried firebombing an ICE facility in Tacoma.
That happened several years ago.
So what happens when these college groups go to their friends and say, guys, you know you have to join us, and they go, oh man, what do you do?
Let me tell you another story.
So a lot of people are incorrectly stating that Abraham Lincoln was kept off the ballot in ten states.
Not true.
The way it worked back then was that the parties would issue the ballots and you'd go and drop them off.
The deal was, when you voted, you voted.
You wrote down who you wanted to vote for.
So, the Democrats, the Republicans, the Democrat-Republicans, the Whigs, whatever, would say, here's our list of people.
You could take that ballot from them, and then be like, I'm gonna vote for this party, here are all the people I want, and there you go, you cast your vote.
I'm assuming they drop it in a box or something.
So they say, Abraham Lincoln was taken off the ballot in ten states.
He wasn't taken off.
The Republicans didn't issue ballots in ten states because For one, they're like, these states hate us, we're not going to win.
But the fear was, if you were seen holding paraphernalia of the Republican Party in a slave state, you would be mercilessly beaten at worst, shunned at best.
So no one was willing to cast a vote for Republicans in these states.
So Abraham Lincoln received zero votes in the states that went on to secede to form the Confederacy.
andrew meyer
I'm thinking right now about El Salvador, which I believe had the highest murder rate in Central America.
If you had told me five years ago that El Salvador... No, it didn't.
It didn't have the highest murder rate?
tim pool
It was very... It had a high murder rate.
andrew meyer
Very high murder rate.
tim pool
Yeah, Honduras has one of the highest murder rates in the world.
andrew meyer
Okay, so let's say second, third highest, what a very high murder rate.
If you told me five years ago that that place would suddenly be, like, attracting Americans to take citizenship, move to El Salvador... I don't want to mispronounce the president of El Salvador's name.
Let's just say it's Max Keiser.
It's not Max Keiser.
It's Bukele.
Naive Bukele, that's how you say it?
phil labonte
Naive Bukele, yeah.
andrew meyer
Thank you.
He turned that country around.
I would never have thought that... On a dime!
I never would have thought that the will of the people existed to turn El Salvador from dystopian murder nightmare into... Argentina!
...attracting Americans.
tim pool
Afuera!
andrew meyer
So, I see the potential for negative in America, but I also see that we can flip this country for the good.
tim pool
Yes, I agree.
I think it's important to point out that while we're looking at, you know, conflict, chaos, crisis and all that stuff, we're still winning culturally, and that's why they're getting desperate.
It may be that It's a 2024 gets wild.
There's riots.
It's crazy.
Donald Trump ends up winning.
It's contested, but he clears it and then he starts arresting people.
Deportations happen and then things start simmering down as he weeds out the corruption.
It may be that Donald Trump is just plainly successful and we avoid the worst of it.
I hope so.
shane cashman
I think, you know, we experienced real dystopia during lockdowns.
We had Chaz, we had, like, Rapper in, like, Seattle with a flamethrower just take over a block.
unidentified
It was insane.
tim pool
And they unloaded hundreds of rounds into a white SUV.
shane cashman
Innocent people were murdered.
tim pool
Atlanta, Minnesota, Portland.
unidentified
St.
shane cashman
Louis.
unidentified
St.
tim pool
Louis had an occupation?
shane cashman
Well, they had all the arson.
They burned down all those buildings.
tim pool
Atlanta had an occupation.
And Minnesota had an occupation and Seattle.
So I tried a couple times.
shane cashman
I say that to seem like it could get crazier.
But I also know that so many people saw those things go down who weren't like engaged at all politically like that can't happen again.
Like I know people who are in I think it was Atlanta and they lived in like in a skyscraper and they're stuck on their roof watching as people down below are just destroying everything.
And there's people out their windows throwing flower pots at them and stuff.
It was just like a zombie movie.
tim pool
In New York?
shane cashman
That was in Atlanta.
Oh wow.
Yeah.
We're seeing it.
New York was crazy.
tim pool
New York was crazy too.
New York was crazy because there were people calling the police and the police were just like, good luck.
shane cashman
Yeah.
Unless you were, unless like there were rabbis getting arrested in the park in Brooklyn, you know, those guys got arrested, but you could ride, you could burn anything you want.
Just don't praise God.
tim pool
This is the important thing to understand.
It's not that necessarily the city wants the rioters.
It's that they're impotent.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
So when there was one famous story where a guy, a fight broke out in the lobby of his apartment building, so he called the police and the woman said, Sir, the city is under attack.
What would you have us do?
Let me tell you guys something.
Play Fallout 3, okay?
In Fallout 3, there's a... Fallout's a video game, nuclear war happens, people seal themselves in vaults, the vaults are not good things, but long story short, they start emerging afterwards and there are people who survived the nuclear war and have built small societies outside of it, and then the vault dwellers come out.
There's also a group called the Enclave.
Which is highly advanced, with powerful military bases, clean running water, and they are the, it's been hundreds of years, but they're the remnants of the American government.
They are not good guys.
They kill you.
My point about bringing that up is, it's a simple understanding the game developers had when they created the concept of the Enclave.
If the city falls into chaos, the police are not going to help you.
World War Z people pointed out when the dude is Brad Pitt's character is going to get the medicine for his daughter and then he sees the cop come in he's like oh crap and the cop looks at him and they just run straight up and grabs and loots and then runs away that's a great point to be made yeah when everything breaks down and there's riots in the streets and it's bad the police are gonna be thinking two things I need to protect my family that's the first thing and the second is who's got my back so when you call They're not going to answer.
They're going to be like, bro, you want me to leave my family and my friends right now in my fortified police department with guns to come to your house to fight some crazy crackpot?
Ain't happening.
Good luck.
Was it paranoia is a disease of the unarmed?
shane cashman
Yes.
I love that.
We were talking about every time I die lyrics.
phil labonte
Every time I die is great.
shane cashman
Yes.
Great band.
Go check it out.
But it's a great, that's a great lyric.
tim pool
We're gonna go to Super Chat, so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends if you do like it, and head over to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member, and support our work directly because this show is only possible thanks to viewers like you.
When I was little, I would always hear that on PBS.
They're like, this show is made possible in part by viewers like you.
And then you gotta click the donate link.
shane cashman
Yep.
tim pool
But, uh, it really is.
It really is.
Uh, membership is basically how we run this whole thing.
So, uh, we greatly appreciate it.
All right, here we go.
Quantum Strange Quark says, am I the first of the new year?
Uh, uh, new year, new year, Timcast family.
Is that a member?
33 months as a member.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
That is, uh, that makes you the first super chat of the new year.
shane cashman
We got balloons coming down.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
You can't see him there.
He goes in the corner.
tim pool
Shane H. Welder says, Tim leaves for a week and all hell breaks loose in the news cycle.
Y'all deserved the break though.
Welcome back.
Yeah, next year.
We already talked about it.
We're probably gonna do a big New Year's bash.
Because it's on Tuesday.
New Year's Eve will be a Tuesday.
That's kind of weird, is it?
I don't know, Tuesday.
It's like a, oof, day for it.
But we'll probably take the next day off, but the plan is regular show Monday, New Year's Eve, big jam, because we're probably going to be at the new studio in a few weeks.
I've seen the photos.
They look amazing.
It's so cool, I'm so excited.
Skate Park is going to take a couple months, but the kitchen is done.
The new studio, which is for the new shows, is empty, but it's like the room is there.
So now the art, decoration, build-out for the cameras is next.
The new TimCast studio, same deal, it's done.
The set design and studio building company is coming out in a couple weeks.
Super excited.
And the green room, the pictures of the bar, it's basically done.
We just gotta put a TV in it.
unidentified
Nice.
tim pool
We're gonna get a nice little couch and like a little hangout area.
shane cashman
There's a spiral staircase.
tim pool
That goes to the ceiling.
shane cashman
That's amazing.
tim pool
So it's a 40 foot tall building with a three story building inside of it.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
And so, uh, we're getting really close to being there, and then we're gonna slowly build up all the really awesome stuff, and we're gonna do a big New Year's Eve jam for the next year, depending on what happens, I guess?
It'll be pretty wild.
But, uh, that's the plan for next year.
But anyway, as for the break, we had no choice.
We were, like, going over the dates, and I'm like, yo, nobody wants to fly out.
The week of Christmas.
There's no question.
After Christmas, nobody's getting on a plane and flying out to come on a show.
There's potential locals.
We could maybe do something.
And then Democrats went nuts.
Nikki Haley said the Civil War was about the government taking our freedoms.
And I was like, wow.
And then Maine pulled Trump off the ballot.
I was like, I knew Democrats would pull some BS.
It's the one week I'm off.
You know what I mean?
But I went to, uh, we went to Barrow, Alaska, first, and hung out, and then we went to Anchorage and hung out, that was cool, and then we went to Fairbanks, and as soon as we landed at Fairbanks, we get into the parking lot, it was minus 28, Aurora Borealis, massive, right above us.
Wow, huge!
Yeah, we went dog sledding and it was funny because at minus 28, within like five minutes, you've got icicles on your eyelashes, your beard is all white, I shaved afterwards, and my eyebrows were all covered in icicles because when you breathe, the humidity collects and slowly starts getting bigger and bigger and then you gotta like warm up and wipe it off.
Yeah, it's a lot of fun.
shane cashman
I heard from a reliable source that Alaska has the headquarters of where they make the fake clouds.
Was that true?
I don't know if you heard that or not.
tim pool
Shane likes to jokingly say that clouds are fake.
shane cashman
Jokingly.
tim pool
Jokingly.
And they have probably a power plant, so there's steam coming out of the stacks, you know, relieving pressure or whatever it might be, I don't know.
But the thing is, it was so cold, they stay.
So you literally have, we always make the joke when you see the steam coming out of a power plant, it's like they're making clouds, but the steam dissipates.
Not there.
It's so cold.
There's one big cloud and it goes right down from one building.
You're like, wow, they really are making clouds.
shane cashman
I've asked them to drop me off at the headquarters next.
That's inverted world.
tim pool
I sent you that one video of it, but there was like 50 of those buildings.
It's like steam exhaust or something.
shane cashman
I'm going to go down to the bottom.
tim pool
But I know, I know someone, there's a super chat asking about my restaurant review.
I will elaborate when I read it because everyone's like, there was one bad review.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Jacob Paradis says, stay sharp this year, don't do anything stupid, and don't get baited by the left.
Hear, hear.
Polly Perry says, glad that Tim Cass is back.
My favorite show.
Thank you so much for watching the show.
Appreciate it.
Share with your friends.
It's the most important thing.
We gotta figure out, we're not good at marketing.
I mean like, it's actually not true.
We're actually really good at it, but we don't do it effectively for what we're trying to do.
So we're thinking of doing like a commercial on YouTube or something.
You know, this show is successful in spite of YouTube.
They suppress us and everybody knows this.
They do goofy things with our thumbnails.
They do goofy things with like the video not appearing.
We get it, we get it.
But I think we're gonna go for some conventional marketing.
Just, I don't know, we'll figure it out.
Probably do a big YouTube campaign, just saying, come watch the show.
Yeah, I wonder.
You know, we'll just, why not?
Gotta do something.
Zachary McCoy says, I'm near Des Moines, where do I get a ticket?
Do we know where the tickets are?
Are they up yet?
shane cashman
They might be.
tim pool
They might be up already, and they probably- They were working on it yesterday.
As soon as they go out, as soon as the tickets go up, they're getting sold, it's like 50.
It's like 50 tickets.
It's a small, it is a cozy event venue.
I can't say too much, because you'll get the info if you buy the tickets, but it's going to be like a very intimate setting where we're hanging out and doing the show, and so it's going to be awesome.
There are tickets, but we're going to be vetting the people who want to buy the tickets, so there's a strong possibility people in the audience will be asking questions and things like that, like a normal town hall, but I'll just stress, because this was put together so quickly, I don't have all the details just yet, so... I'm waiting to hear back.
Yeah, Shane's gonna hear back on tickets.
I think we announced it.
Vivek announced it this morning.
And, uh, you know, so... I'll be like, well, my show's not until later we'll announce it.
But Vivek announced we're doing our town hall with him.
And I gotta be honest, I think we will get substantially more views on ours than CNN will.
I think that's a given.
I think, well, you know, it's tough to say.
To be fair, on any given night, we crush CNN in the key demo ratings handily.
Like 5 to 10x, it's kind of really bad.
Yeah, I mean, CNN gets nothing.
They get like 70,000.
We get like 4 or 500.
They got Ron and Nikki, they might get a million, so they might, you know, do more than we would, but I think it'll be to a certain degree comparable, I guess.
I guess the other issue, too, is it's going to be a multi-way GOP battle.
You know, will people choose to watch the CNN debates or choose to watch the Vivek town hall that we do?
Or Trump's.
shane cashman
I wonder if there's any people out there who are even stuck between choosing DeSantis over Vivek.
tim pool
Look, I think one of the reasons that people watched the previous debates was because of Vivek.
He's the Cajun spice thrown into the mix.
I gotta be honest with you, man.
When I went to Thailand, I told my friend, I was like, I want real Thai food, because I love Pad Thai.
He's like, yeah, okay man, you want real Thai food?
Let me show you what it's all about.
And he brings me to this little restaurant.
It's the corner of a street, and it's got two big garage door-like doors that open up, so it's like a patio almost.
I sit down, he orders in Thai, and guess what authentic Thai food is?
Steamed chicken and rice.
unidentified
That's it.
tim pool
That's it.
They bring out a bowl of rice and some steamed chicken, and I was like, it's good, but it's literally just steamed chicken and rice.
unidentified
That's funny.
tim pool
I went to Brazil.
I told my friend, I want some real Brazilian food.
He's like, okay, I'll bring you to the place, and guess what it is?
unidentified
Steak!
Beef!
tim pool
And rice!
And I was like, oh.
You know, the stuff that we eat here, it's all, like, fake.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
So, uh, I forgot where I was going with that, but that was, what were we talking about?
shane cashman
Fancy food.
unidentified
Fancy food.
shane cashman
I don't know where we were before that.
tim pool
I don't know.
andrew meyer
Ron and Nicky.
shane cashman
Oh yeah, the crossover.
tim pool
Oh, right, right, right, right, right, right.
shane cashman
The crossover from The Vague and DeSantis.
tim pool
Exactly, that's where we were.
My point is this, we like steak.
I think steak's fantastic.
Like, you give me a raw steak, I'll annihilate it.
I'll order a steak blue, I don't care.
I hope there's no parasites in it.
But, you know, when you get a good, like, Cajun spice rub on your wings, Come on, we love Gage and Spice, don't we?
shane cashman
Yeah, watching those debates with Vivek, I was just like, that's a guy who's good at podcasting, and those are people who are good at soundbites for Fox.
And he was just running laps.
phil labonte
It is interesting to listen to normies discuss their impression of Vivek, because obviously he's not doing all that well in the polls.
And I don't think that... There's a lot of people that say, oh, if it wasn't for Donald Trump, Vivek would be higher in the polls, and I don't know that I believe that.
I like Vivek a lot.
I think that I'm going to probably vote for him in the primaries.
But I don't think that he connects with people the way that he connects with me,
and I don't think that he connects with people the way that I wish he did.
tim pool
But I think Vivek is targeting the new wave.
He's thinking forward.
He's thinking ahead.
He's ahead of the market on this one.
So what is lacking?
Who watches CNN?
Tucker Carlson was getting 3 million views per night.
Not anymore.
CNN's not in the airwaves anymore.
The average age for these terrestrial cable channels is like 67 or 70.
And that used to be the way to consume news.
And now for even many of our senior friends, they're watching shows like this.
But the reason why we crush CNN in the key demo, because this is how younger people are consuming media, social media, podcasts, not CNN.
So, when we look at CNN's ratings, that they're high, but when you look at their key demo ratings, they're in the gutter.
Like, seriously, like 70k on some of their shows.
unidentified
70,000.
andrew meyer
They're a dinosaur.
They're going the way of the newspaper.
Nobody reads newspapers anymore.
Nobody's gonna be watching cable news.
tim pool
That's the next- Right, and then, I gotta be honest, there'll come a time where people don't watch this show anymore, and it's gonna be like, ah, it's for old people.
Young people are all doing metaverse stuff.
Who knows?
Who knows?
But for the time being, this is where the voting demo and the money demo was at, and CNN doesn't have it.
Anyway, my point was, watching Ron and Nikki will be like ordering steamed rice and steamed chicken.
It's like, it's food, and you'd be happy to have it if there's nothing else, but you've also got Donald Trump on Fox News and Vivek Ramaswamy on Timcast.
And with Donald Trump, you're talking about getting a gigantic, greasy, you know, mutton, you know, right there that you can just annihilate.
It's in a big basket with french fries, and you got the mayonnaise, and you're like, this is gonna be a meal!
And then with Vivek, it's like, a very perfectly planned out, like, properly spiced, like, Trump's the big burger, big mac, and then Vivek is like, perfectly seasoned, and you know what I mean?
And then Ron and Nikki is like...
shane cashman
It's such a good metaphor for how the state of the GOP right now and how fractured and pathetic they are.
Their official debate with these two people, these two suits, no one's going to really care about.
Obviously, there'll be an audience, but then they have the former president.
It'll be interesting.
Wargamer2199 says, Well, it's a little bit more complicated than that.
So it's going to be interesting to see that play out.
tim pool
It'll be interesting.
Wargamer2199 says, Jack Pasobic and conservatives at large lately are
embracing literal authoritarianism.
And in Jack's case, praising Franco, the former dictator of Spain,
because he was Christian and defender of it.
Well, it's a little bit more complicated than that.
Mike Cernovich has been praising Franco as well.
The argument is that commies were like digging up the corpses of nuns and parading them
and littering the streets and things like that.
The commies were doing a lot of really, really awful things.
And so while certainly I'm not learned enough on Franco to make a statement there, I will point out it's not so simple to just say, Jack and conservatives are embracing authoritarianism.
I would say more so they were embracing counter-communism to the degree that they think a strong man should be imposed to stop them.
andrew meyer
There's a great book called Homage to Catalonia by George Orwell.
Basically, he volunteered to fight on the side of the communists in Spain and while fighting for them, with them, he realized he was on the wrong side.
And that revelation, that's what leads to 1984 and Animal Farm.
The commies were doing great evil and Franco stood up against them and people being afraid of that, or wary of that, You know, sometimes it takes a man doing the strong thing to fight back against these evil tyrants.
If Tim's Civil War scenario were to play out where lefties are going out with guns, you're going to want the federal government out there with guns against them.
You're not going to want to have to do it with your neighbors.
tim pool
It's not about want.
It's just about...
You know, so I watched the new Hunger Games movie, and I gotta say, it's the prequel, I'm really, really surprised, actually.
I know that the big media industries are failing, but man, was this movie poorly done.
andrew meyer
It was terrible.
tim pool
Yeah, it was like a made-for-home video movie, almost.
Like, the costumes were bad, the pacing was bad, the scoring was bad, and I was kind of like, there's no character development, it's janky, it felt like a fan fiction made-for-home sequel.
Like, you ever watch Home Alone 3?
andrew meyer
No.
tim pool
So Home Alone 1 and 2 is like some burglars engage in shenanigans.
Home Alone 3 is an international band of terrorists are trying to steal the missile codes and a little kid who's not home alone, in fact, his mom is there, is stopping them in a similar way.
And I'm like, wow, that's what it felt like.
But anyway.
There's a good point that was made at the end of the movie.
Spoilers!
I don't care if you want to see the movie.
It's a prequel.
The game master of the Hunger Games asks Snow, who goes on to become the president, what is the purpose of the Hunger Games?
And he says, I used to think that it was punishment for the people who, you know, engaged in war against us.
And then he was like, now I realize it's a reminder of what Humans are and what they really are like and so it's an interesting point The purpose of the Hunger Games was to show people that when you're put into the arena He said I learned the whole world is an arena and then just and who are you is I'm the victor and that's a it's actually a really great point that the average person doesn't understand that that that fighting in the Hunger Games where you have people who are friends and then they're like only one can survive and they immediately try to kill each other and
The only reason we don't have that is because we have security.
We have military, we have security forces.
So I'll tell you this, it's not about want.
In the event civil war happens, people will cry and they will beg, beg for authoritarianism.
They will beg and pray that a strong man would rise up and just take control because security is better than panic, fear, and chaos.
People would rather have safe authoritarianism Then to be shaking, not knowing when someone's going to kick their door and kill their family.
But this is the point.
When authoritarianism gets to the point where you never know if the government is going to kick your door and kill you, they collapse.
That's why I think a key contributor to the fall of the Soviet Union is the authoritarianism.
If the authoritarianism is strictly focused at your communist enemies like Spain, people are going to cheer.
But as soon as that government turns inward, and now you fear them, destabilization occurs once again because nobody feels secure anymore.
In a civil war, you feel secure when government forces attack the enemy and protect your home.
As soon as that government starts locking up your friends and neighbors, the security is gone, destabilization happens.
So, right now for the Franco stuff, I think what they're really saying is they need a strong man to come and crush the commies.
phil labonte
That's a real bad problem because the solution to communism is not fascism and it's not authoritarianism.
It's liberalism.
It is the system that we have moved away from and allowed people to corrupt.
It is the restoration of Democrats in America behaving as if they are liberals and not the installation of an authoritarianism from the right.
That is the exact opposite of what you want to happen because what you get is authoritarianism on the right for a little while, but that swing is going to end up with the communists rising up and you'll end up with a state that is empowered by That the communists just take over, and so all the apparatus that it needs, just like we had with the GWAT, with the Global War on Terror, you've got this gigantic intelligence apparatus that is literally global, and it was designed to find one person, and once we found him, all they did was start turning that same apparatus inward, and that's why you have the government literally focusing on Americans as the enemy.
tim pool
All right, Thunderclap says, why was it 1 out of 10, Tim?
I just downloaded Twix yesterday, and that was the first tweet I saw.
OK, so I did a tweet where I broke down all the restaurants we went to in Alaska, and I gave them scores.
And one of them got a 1 out of 10, and one of them got a 6 out of 10.
And everyone said that it was a dig at Snow City Cafe in, I believe it's in Anchorage, because I gave them 1 out of 10.
Uh, I gave all these restaurants ratings because I was rating the restaurants that we went to because we went to, like, two every day, breakfast and dinner.
And, uh, so let's just, let's run through this real quick, very simply.
We went to Osaka and Barrow.
Dude, it is so cool eating in Barrow slash Gatwick or whatever because...
It's like a dude's house.
It's a small, small place.
There's no way to get there other than plane or boat.
And so there's a Japanese restaurant and I got grilled pork belly and sushi.
The sushi was like really fresh.
I mean, considering the oceans right there.
And it was delicious.
Service was really, really great.
Being in the middle of nowhere and minus, it was like minus 20 or like minus 10, I think it was when we were there.
It was awesome.
So I gave, I think I gave them like an eight out of 10 or a nine out of 10.
Top of the world.
It's a hotel and restaurant.
Guy was super cool to us.
We got to sit in a big booth.
Brought us coffee.
We had reindeer sausage.
Allison got the reindeer scramble.
Had a great time.
We went to Salmon Lee's, which we were told is the place to go.
And the guy who served us was kind of short with us.
He spilled my coffee, but gave it to me anyway.
He made a hot chocolate for us that one of our guys didn't want to drink because he said it was like just brown in water and it wasn't particularly good.
The woman who was working there was super nice to us.
So I kind of feel bad giving them a six out of 10, but we ordered crab rangoon and it was kind of burned.
And I was just like, look, man, if it was in New York, I honestly would say, don't go there.
But it's in Barrow, Alaska, and you don't have options, is actually pretty good.
I gotta be honest, the soup was really good, the pork belly was super good, the guy was a little short with us, it's fine, we're not locals.
But a 6 out of 10, meaning, if you're there, you definitely gotta go there.
We went to Anchorage, and as soon as we landed, we went to Sullivan's, and that was awesome.
We got there right when they were closing, but they served us anyway.
Super nice people.
I got a Caesar salad.
It was incredible.
They made me a French onion soup with no bread, so I like it.
Other people had the burgers, had a great time, and one of the guys who worked there was a big fan.
And so I was like, wow, this is really cool, you know?
I'll also add that we went to Barrow.
I got recognized several times.
It's just totally wild to me.
shane cashman
Crazy.
tim pool
We were told to go to Snow City Cafe in the morning, it's the place to be.
So we did.
And I put my name on the list, and we waited for 15 minutes as they sat several other people in front of us, to where I finally asked, is there a reason you're seating other guests in front of us?
And she said, oh, they, they, other people can text to get, wait, you know, to come in.
And I'm like, no, no, no.
There's nobody here.
We're standing in the lobby for 15 minutes.
Waiting for a seat.
There's nobody here, and the list has only my name on it.
So one of two things happened.
Someone texted they wanted to be on the list, and then showed up 15 minutes after we had already been waiting, and they chose not to seat us, because someone had texted, so they were not going to let us sit down until the person texted again.
That makes no sense.
Someone walked in after we'd already signed up, we're waiting for 10 minutes, and they, I'm standing by this thing, they have a sign-up thing, and they were like, oh, are you in line?
I'm like, no, no, we're signed up already, you can sign up.
They sign up, a minute later, the lady walks up and says, right this way, and brings them to a seat.
A group of four, we were a group of four.
And I'm like, well, you know, maybe something happened, I'm not, you know.
But after the third time or whatever, I was just like, is there a reason you're not seating us?
And they were just like, well, people can text in, what's your name?
And I'm like, I'm gonna go somewhere else.
Because my attitude is like, if they know who I am, and they don't like me, and they don't want me to sit there, the last thing I'm going to do is going to eat their food.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Not interested.
shane cashman
Yeah, for sure.
tim pool
And then shout out to Borealis Base Camp in Fairbanks.
That was really great.
We went to Gwenny's instead.
Oh, it was amazing.
One of our guys ordered a hot chocolate, and it's this massive bucket of hot chocolate with a mountain of whipped cream, and the server was walking up with it, knowing we were tourists, holding back a smile, and as soon as she puts it down, and we all go, whoa, she just cracks that big ol' smile, cause she knew that hot chocolate was gonna- Gwenny's was awesome.
And also, shout out to Latitude65 at Boreal Space Camp.
People worked there, also were fans, and we got to eat some of the best food ever.
Wagyu, it was just really, really amazing.
shane cashman
Should do a Timcast Yelp.
We just review things.
tim pool
But let me just stress this.
The reason why I gave Snow City Cafe a 1 out of 10 was not because I'm mad at them, because I don't like them.
Their food was bad, none of that.
People were like, how could you give them, like, how did you give this one restaurant a good rating in your tweet?
Because, and I'm like, because it's not just about the food.
Like, the chairs were comfortable, the people were nice.
You could have the worst food in the world, but be the coolest people and have, like, video games, poker, and Magic the Gathering.
I'm giving you a 10 out of 10!
I'm gonna be like, I don't want to eat anywhere else!
But, uh, Snow Sea Cafe was just, we didn't get to eat the food.
We waited a long time.
They were rude to us when I asked, and we ended up getting nothing out of it.
So it was just like, in terms of comfortability, zero.
Food quality, zero.
Everything, zero.
Wait time, zero.
And I give it a one because it looked cool, I guess.
unidentified
You know?
shane cashman
It made me laugh when I saw it.
I know the six out of 10 was there, but it was just like all these good reviews, and then just one, one out of 10.
It's like, what the hell happened there?
tim pool
I mean, yeah, it happens.
But most of, we only chose places that were good.
Oh, we went to, Was it Simon and Siefert's?
Magic.
I gotta recommend that place in Anchorage.
Because if you go there right at sunset, which is like, I don't know, 2.30, 3 p.m.
The horizon is red for like 40 minutes.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
And you can see the mountains and the water.
And you get that seat.
It's amazing.
And the food is super good.
I got a cocktail that was like in this dome thing and they lift it off and vapors come out and they waft the vapors at you.
Yeah, what an experience.
shane cashman
That's awesome.
tim pool
Anyway, Alaska was really, really awesome.
I love Alaska.
Thanks everybody for listening to my why Alaska was so much fun.
shane cashman
Our next event will be in Alaska now.
tim pool
You know, we actually were thinking it would be really cool To do a show during the Iditarod and use Starlink and see if we can get Starlink to like get us multiple units and then bond them to do a live show from Nome, Alaska to make the point that with Starlink it's possible.
Because when we were in Utqiagvik, there's like, there's self-service, there's AT&T.
But they use Starlink.
It's all satellite.
So for me, there's GCI and AT&T that I think work in Utqiagvik.
T-Mobile doesn't work.
I don't think there's anything else.
But they do have Starlink, so all the places got it immediately.
And I'm like, that's the place to do it.
So Nome is a town of like 3,000 people.
It's where that dead around ends.
It would be super cool to go out there for a week and then have all these Starlinks bonded.
So we're getting high speeds to do a live show from Alaska.
And I'm like, it's cool to go there in the summer, and I really want to go there in the summer when it's permanent day, and we need an excuse to do it, but it would be really cool if I could be like, hey Elon, we want to show how awesome Starlink is, can we like, you know, get something going on?
shane cashman
That's a great idea.
phil labonte
I bet it would.
tim pool
I mean, just think about how amazing it's like, Starlink can bring you live shows from the far reaches, you know what I mean?
phil labonte
From anywhere in the world.
tim pool
Yeah, you could live in the middle, you could live in the middle of nowhere in Alaska and do a live show with Starlink.
And that's crazy because, I mean, look, we make a lot of money doing this show.
If someone in Alaska launched a political show using Starlink and started generating millions of dollars, imagine how much they could develop in Alaska, that's crazy.
All right, we got Seth Weathers.
Superchat, he says, just wanted to say, sorry, not sorry, calendar emoji.
Yo, calendar gate was wild.
I love that Mike Cernovich, I think it was, he was like, the Republicans are complaining about a calendar while Democrats just removed Donald Trump from the ballot in Maine.
phil labonte
That's the best way to conceptualize this whole thing.
The Republicans were fighting over a calendar.
While the Democrats were removing the leading presidential candidate from the ballot.
I understand that there are people that have, you know, serious religious convictions.
Shut the hell up with this stupid shit.
You're being stupid and you're screwing everybody else.
And that's probably gonna get a lot of people upset with me, but it's true.
tim pool
Dude, I'm like on vacation and I'm seeing these tweets about like Josie, and they're like, it's demonic that she's- I'm like, what?
She's wearing a sundress and apron and she baked a pie.
I'm like, isn't that as wholesome as it can be?
phil labonte
So ridiculous.
tim pool
Like, no!
She's showing her legs!
And so I tweeted, dear God, Josie, cover those ankles.
No one, I think, no one real cares, but whatever.
People are pointing out that minus 10 is warm.
Yeah, it was, I'm from Chicago.
So when we landed, I was like, I thought I was gonna have to like wear crazy layers.
And I was like, oh, minus 30, I did.
Minus 30 was like, okay, I'm gonna put on some thermals.
But Chicago, when it was zero degrees out, I'd wear shorts.
This is not an exaggeration.
In Chicago, in winter, it's zero, I would put on shorts and a t-shirt and then I would go skate.
Because the moment I go outside, I'm still warm from inside, I start pushing my board down the street, I start sweating my ass off.
By the time I get to my friend's house, I'm inside again.
So I'd just be like, dude, if I wore a coat and pants, I'd be drenched.
So, uh, we get to, uh, Boreal's base camp in Fairbanks, and it was, like, minus 20 in Fairbanks, which, but it's like, it's in, like, a pocket, I guess.
So we get there, we're gonna go snowmobiling.
They call it snow machines.
And, uh, I was kind of worried.
I'm like, it's gonna be, we're gonna have to bundle up, you know?
And then I look, I'm like, it's feeling fine.
It was five degrees.
I was like, ah, dude, five degrees?
I took my jacket off.
No, for real, I was like, five?
No question.
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This is how we basically make everything function and operate while ads do play a role.
The main component of how we get everything done is that people send in to become members, and you can join the Discord server, and I will not, I cannot stress enough, There is nothing better.
You can name any other membership that you can buy from any other podcast or commentator, but nothing beats the Discord server.
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We don't have to.
I could just sit in this room and we can book whoever we want and stay here and not travel anywhere and spend it at $0.
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I got a couple of shoutouts.
Smash the like button and you can follow the show at TimCastIRL.
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andrew meyer
I got a couple of shoutouts.
Number one, when Alex Jones came back to Twitter, Jason Calacanis of the All In podcast was
very upset about it and then he started saying, who could say good things about Alex Jones?
Well, Jason Calacanis, without Alex Jones, there would have been no President Donald Trump, most likely, who saved the First and Second Amendment with his nomination of Supreme Court Justice.
So, Jason Calacanis, would love to talk to you on your show.
You're so upset that Alex has his free speech back.
Talk to Alex or talk to me, and I'm so happy to announce AlexJonesGame.com.
Fight the New World Order yourself as Alex Jones.
Defeat the globalists.
Kill the gay frogs.
Go to AlexJonesGame.com right now.
It's the most fun game of the year.
People said, game of the year, game of the decade.
Not joking.
And tomorrow it is live on Steam.
So AlexJonesGame.com.
A couple other things.
I was at the AmFest in Phoenix and I ran into a legend named Richard Gage.
When people talk about 9-11 as an inside job, they talk about Alex Jones and they talk about Richard Gage, who put his career on the line speaking out as one of the architects and engineers for 9-11 Truth.
I brought one of his pamphlets, The Truth About Building 7, what happened.
Richard Gage, American legend.
I hope he gets a chance to sit in this seat one day.
I'm finally back on Twitter.
Alex Jones is back on Twitter.
You can follow me at Twitter.com slash TheAndrewMeyer.
And I have a gift.
I didn't get to see Tim at Christmas, but I have some alpha jerky.
tim pool
It's good stuff!
andrew meyer
I have some alpha jerky for Tim.
This is salt and pepper, no soy, no seed oils, no sugar at BigClubUSA.com.
We are back in stock.
Your orders are going out.
Alpha Jerky.
This is for Tim.
Merry Christmas, and thank you for having me back on the show.
tim pool
Absolutely.
We'll have you in the members only, so let me try and grab this jerky right here.
This is good stuff because there's nothing in it.
There's no BS.
That's what it's all about.
andrew meyer
That's right.
No BS.
phil labonte
I am PhilThatRemains on Twix.
I'm PhilThatRemainsOfficial on Instagram.
The band is All That Remains.
You can listen to us on Spotify, Apple Music, Pandora, Amazon Music, YouTube, you know, the Internet.
Shane.
shane cashman
I am AtShaneCashman at all those places online.
You can find me.
I talk about fake clouds a lot.
And I appreciate everyone tuning in.
Happy New Year, everyone.
serge du preez
Yeah, Happy New Year.
I am happy to be back on the show.
There was a lot of news this last week.
It's been fun to be away, but I'm really happy to be back.
Happy to see you guys as well.
Happy New Year.
See you guys on the After Show.
tim pool
We'll see you all over at TimCast.com.
Thanks for hanging out.
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