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Nov. 30, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Elon Musk Tells Advertisers GO EFF YOURSELVES, Calls Boycott BLACKMAIL w/Jack Posobiec
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hannah claire brimelow
12:09
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jack posobiec
51:13
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libby emmons
10:18
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tim pool
45:15
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serge du preez
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tim pool
Elon Musk was speaking at a New York Times event and he was asked about advertisers and
the boycott and he said, go F yourselves.
And we're gonna play that video for you.
He said, anybody who wants to try blackmailing me with money, go F yourselves, in a powerful statement.
He goes on to talk about his motivations, and he makes really great points.
There are these companies that pretend to do good while doing evil, just so they can earn those ESG scores, whereas he sees what he's working on as genuinely doing good, but being attacked relentlessly.
I agree.
We got more news, too.
This morning, Rumble announced a lawsuit against a group of activists that target conservative media, or just in general, politics and media platforms they don't like, and tried to get their ads pulled.
Chris Pawlowski, the CEO, said, the cavalry is here, announcing this lawsuit.
And, well, the rumor is there's going to be many, many more lawsuits.
And before the show, I saw a very, very interesting story.
UFOs.
And you know what that means?
Hunter Biden's in the news again, because apparently they found these erratic payments from what, where was it from?
Like from China or something?
libby emmons
Yeah, from China in 2018.
tim pool
From China in 2018.
jack posobiec
No, but literally, literally, so, all right, all right, breaking KFAP here a little bit.
So Tim was going through show prep, looking at headlines, looking at headlines going, all right, what are we going to talk about?
Like, you know, he works out his segments, he's got the titles, you know, pre-planned for tomorrow, whatever.
And then he goes, oh look, UFOs, there must be some Hunter Biden news just dropping.
And then Libby's sitting there going, wait, there just was Hunter Biden news.
And you didn't know that.
tim pool
She's like, no, the Hunter Biden story from earlier.
And I was like, what?
And you're like, 20 minutes ago, the Hunter Biden story about the payments.
And I was like, no.
So that's the news.
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jack posobiec
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tim pool
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Joining us tonight, as you already know, we got Jack and Libby.
Jack, what up?
jack posobiec
Jack Posobiec here from Human Events, and I just gotta say, man, I really agree with Elon Musk, his statement just there.
You cannot blackmail me for money.
And if you want to try to blackmail me for money, then... You know, how much are we talking?
unidentified
Like, I think maybe, you know, let's chat, let's chat.
jack posobiec
I don't quite have Elon money, so give me a call.
Like a million dollars.
I mean, a billion.
tim pool
Well, we'll get into that.
I've got a lot to say about this.
jack posobiec
I could do a lot of free speech for a billion dollars, Tim.
I'm just saying.
tim pool
That's true, that's true.
hannah claire brimelow
Buy you a lot of pillows, you know?
unidentified
Tons.
jack posobiec
Buy you a lot of pillows from MyPillow.com.
Have you completed your MyPillow Christmas order yet?
I just have a quick question.
Have you taken advantage of the Christmas sale?
I've been checking.
I've been looking over your shoulder.
I've been keeping an eye on everything that you're doing there, Hannah.
Have you completed your Christmas order?
hannah claire brimelow
There's a lot of intense staring happening right now.
I'm just going to look their way.
Wait, what was that?
jack posobiec
MyPillow.com, Bruno Caposo.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't know who Hannah is.
I'm Hannah Claire Brimlow.
I'm a writer for Scanner.
I'm not used to saying it yet.
tim pool
Well, it's not formally TimCast News.
It's still kind of TimCast News.
SCNR's been around longer than TimCast News.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, but I was with TimCast News first.
I was formerly with TimCast News, and now I'm with Scanner.
And you were fired.
Yeah, Tim fired me, then rehired me in the quickest chain of successions.
It was a lot.
It was a very traumatic day.
tim pool
Yeah, SCNR.com's been around for a while.
hannah claire brimelow
Do we call it SCNR instead of Scanner?
tim pool
SCNR or Scanner, whatever you want to call it.
hannah claire brimelow
I like Scanner.
tim pool
But it's like, if people are trying to look for the website, scnr.com, it's getting off the ground.
We've got a lot of plans for it.
There's other people involved.
We have, this one actually is from several years ago, overcoming some legal challenges, but it's back.
unidentified
It is back.
tim pool
Articles are starting to populate.
And Shane Cashman wrote this crazy article about going with these pedo... He sent me that, yeah.
It's a wild story.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, it's really wild.
tim pool
But yes, Hannah Clare is also a writer for Scanner.
hannah claire brimelow
Yes, I am a writer for Scanner, which is new to me, but not new to everyone.
And Tim Casper and Libby's here.
libby emmons
Hey, I'm Libby Emmons.
I am with the Postmillennial and humanevents.com.
tim pool
And I just want to say, I think they're doing some kind of manhunt around the property.
libby emmons
I'm wondering what it is.
jack posobiec
It's all over.
tim pool
There's like a helicopter flying at like 50 feet.
jack posobiec
Yeah, so I thought it was a lawnmower fan.
And it seemed to be going, so you know what they're doing there?
That's, you know, it's, it's flying, it's flying in circles.
No, they've got, no, it's, it's concentric circles there.
If, if it is, there is a manhunt.
They're either looking for someone or they're doing training as if they're looking for someone.
tim pool
Well, it's awfully close to the ground.
hannah claire brimelow
It's weird that you have this spin, though.
You're saying that they're looking for someone.
They're pretending to look for someone.
It's definitely not you.
You're not on the run.
jack posobiec
No, no, it's just training.
That's just a weather balloon, buddy.
Don't worry about that.
It's swamp gas.
unidentified
There's a bunch of swamp gas out there.
tim pool
So we got Serge, press the buttons.
serge du preez
Yeah, I'm here.
Just listening to Jack talk about his operation going on outside.
jack posobiec
So it'll get quieter, and then it'll get louder, and then it'll get quieter, and then it'll get louder, and then I will find the person who's been using promo code Tanya within this zip code.
We tracked it to a single computer.
Someone who said they formerly worked for TimCast News now works for something called SCNR.
I have no idea who she is, but we will track her down.
hannah claire brimelow
But Tanya's a great lady.
Have you guys met her?
She's fantastic.
jack posobiec
She's alright.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I'm just gonna say.
jack posobiec
I like her.
I'll keep her.
serge du preez
So, promo code Tanya?
jack posobiec
No, that doesn't exist.
That's not a real thing, as a matter of fact.
It's a sting operation that's been operating from the start, which you should never do.
tim pool
Let's jump into this first story from scnr.com scanner.
What a cool new line. I love it Yeah, Elon Musk on advertisers withdrawing from axe
We're getting we're getting off to an early start so earmuffs your kids
Go fuck yourself.
jack posobiec
Wow, man.
By the way, Tiny, you can probably not have the kids watch.
That's a quote.
That's a direct quote.
tim pool
That's why I said F in the beginning, because I said we're going to play the video.
You need the context.
The whole world will know those advertisers that killed the company.
This is what I've been saying.
I was saying, In 2018, when the adpocalypse happened on YouTube, I said, if Coca-Cola, or insert company, let's say Coca-Cola as an example.
I don't know if they boycotted, but let's say they go to YouTube and say, we're going to pull our ads off because of the brand safety issue.
YouTube should have said, well, okay, I guess we can give all of your ad space to Pepsi instead.
And they would have been like, wait, no, that's really bad for our brand.
Yeah, we're going to go give it to your principal, actually RC Cola.
RC Cola is getting all of your ad space now, free of charge.
jack posobiec
Remember Jolt Cola?
Can we give it to Jolt Cola?
libby emmons
Oh, I love Jolt Cola!
Bring it back!
jack posobiec
Bring Jolt Cola back!
hannah claire brimelow
What's the thing that the Insane Clown Posse guys drink?
jack posobiec
Vago.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, let's put it in that.
tim pool
Let's play this clip.
libby emmons
I used to drink Jolt at the South Street Diner.
tim pool
Serge, remember Serge?
All right, here we go.
Here's the clip.
Apology tour, if you will.
This had been said online.
There was all of the criticism.
There was advertisers leaving.
We talked to Bob Iger today.
unidentified
I hope they stop.
You hope?
Don't advertise.
You don't want them to advertise?
No.
If somebody's going to try to blackmail me with advertising, blackmail me with money, go fuck yourself.
hannah claire brimelow
He's like nervous laughter.
jack posobiec
Look at Sorkin!
unidentified
Go.
Fuck.
Yourself.
jack posobiec
Is he doing it?
unidentified
In case he wasn't clear enough, the first step is... Oh, you calling him out?
Hey, Bob.
Wow.
hannah claire brimelow
Because Bob Iger spoke earlier that day.
jack posobiec
Bob Iger, yeah.
unidentified
I think he's still in the room, actually, when he's saying this.
Absolutely amazing.
tim pool
When he's like, I hope they stop.
You can actually free advertising.
jack posobiec
He actually freezes for a second.
So.
So Andrew Sorge, this is a guy, you know, he's CNBC, but he's kind of like their golden boy.
Then he goes on, this is the New York Times Summit.
This is like the masters of the universe of Wall Street.
They're all there.
Elon comes in.
This is where Jamie Dimon, I think earlier in the day came out and urged everyone to get behind Nikki Haley.
They're like, Hey, let's Let's get the uniparty back together.
You know, let's, let's do it guys.
Remember we used to run game before Trump.
We're going to do that again.
And, and Sorkin was totally done and everyone was fine with that.
Like you can, you can be totally fine by telling people that you want to go on a murderous rampage and invade the Middle East and kill thousands of people.
That's cool.
And, and nobody bats an eye, but if you tell advertisers to F off, then everybody loses.
tim pool
I was gonna say, you can advocate for attacking Russia.
jack posobiec
Yes, nuclear war.
tim pool
Nuclear war, but if you say we're going to build a wall on our southern border, well now you're a bigot, racist, and must be stopped.
jack posobiec
And there's no way to afford that.
We couldn't possibly afford $3 billion for the wall, even though we're paying, what, $450 billion for all the illegals?
Is it a billion or a million?
libby emmons
I think it's a billion.
jack posobiec
It's actually a billion.
I almost can't believe this.
tim pool
You see Chicago, they're building the camps?
I love it.
With churches?
jack posobiec
No.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
They have big, empty industrial lots.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm mixing up stories.
tim pool
In two areas in the south side of Chicago, they're building a brick-and-mortar migrant camp, and then they're also building a tent city.
jack posobiec
Well, you see, that'll be perfect for once we get in power for the mass deportations to start, because Stephen Miller is going to run up there himself and actually just start shoveling them onto the back of trucks.
tim pool
Alex Jones called this a long time ago.
jack posobiec
It's wild.
Look, the left is far more willing to use government power against any target than the right is.
The right is terrified of wielding power.
The left has no problem whatsoever.
libby emmons
Yeah, well that's right because the left is, that's what they decided governance is.
They decided governance is using the government to suppress the American people and that's their plan.
jack posobiec
Right, the only difference is they'd want to put us in there.
tim pool
So going back to the Elon story, I don't know if this was a response, but there's a quote from Bob Iger.
I have a lot of respect for Elon and what he has accomplished, said Iger.
We know that Elon is larger than life in many respects, and that his name is very much connected to the companies he founded or owns.
By him taking the position he took in a public manner, we felt that the association was not necessarily a positive one for us.
And I'm gonna go ahead and say they're lying.
hannah claire brimelow
It's not a response, he said it prior.
tim pool
He said it probably right.
jack posobiec
And he's lying because... So that's why he said, hi, Bob.
tim pool
Right.
They wrote to their shareholders.
Iger is Disney, right?
Bob Iger, yeah.
They wrote that they know that their views are misaligned with the public.
jack posobiec
Internally.
tim pool
To shareholders, to investors.
So they know that they're on the wrong side of all of this and they're losing money because of it.
jack posobiec
Well, and that movie Wish just totally flopped at the box office.
Pure communism.
The Marvels was the other one.
Just absolute flop.
And the books aren't doing well either.
So the actress formerly known as Paige, that book totally flopped after getting a massive advance from publishers.
Jemele Hill's book totally flopped after getting a massive advance.
They sold like a couple thousand copies.
There's just no market for this crap.
tim pool
But what's wild is...
They, they sold out, what was it, a six-month supply of Michael Knowles' cigars in 24 hours.
libby emmons
Oh, in 24 hours, yeah.
tim pool
And he was like, the supplier assured us, this is six months, trust us.
And he's like, okay, and then 24 hours, it's gone.
libby emmons
That's crazy.
And then we wonder why the book about queering the Western did not take off.
It was a queer Western.
unidentified
Ah.
libby emmons
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Because that's what people are looking for.
tim pool
No one wanted to read it.
libby emmons
These all had hefty advances.
tim pool
It's not just like Wish or the Marvels.
Remember Strange World or whatever it was called?
Like the whole plot was like a diverse group of people with a bunch of different identities or whatever.
jack posobiec
Are you really gonna have to narrow it down?
tim pool
Are they going to Space Quest and Crash?
jack posobiec
That's literally everything now, Tim.
tim pool
I've got no idea.
libby emmons
I'm not going to watch any of that stuff.
jack posobiec
A diverse group of friends, that's how every single movie pitch starts right now.
tim pool
What absolutely is wild, we talked about this with Jeremy Boring the other day, is that two weeks after Daily Wire announces they're Snow White, Disney releases a photo of Rachel Ziegler in the original Snow White costume with dwarves around, or with the original seven dwarves.
We saw the photos of the seven companions.
I guess they're going to fire all those actors?
jack posobiec
Just they're all gone now?
On the face of it, wouldn't it have been really cool if they had got Peter Dinklage and had him play all seven of the shows?
libby emmons
But he was the one who said no!
hannah claire brimelow
Wasn't he the one who was like, no, you can't hire him.
And then there were a lot of other people who were like, you are limiting us.
We don't care about this.
We would love to be cast in these roles.
jack posobiec
Wouldn't that have been hilarious to have him in, you know, and he's got like a different beard or a different hair, a different hat.
I don't know.
That would just be good.
And I don't think anyone would be making fun of you.
It's because these are iconic characters.
tim pool
Exactly.
So mythical dwarves are forged from the stone inside of mountains.
jack posobiec
Yes.
tim pool
Like, we're not insulting you, bro.
It's like a mythical character.
And the women have beards.
Female dwarves have beards.
It's like a mythical thing.
jack posobiec
There's a lot of politicians who have beards, too.
tim pool
That's true.
That is absolutely correct.
But, you know, he takes it personally.
I don't know.
I'm wondering, though, where is he going to get the money for operating this platform that we all like?
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, this is what Elon was kind of saying, which is that the business will fail and everyone will closely document which companies pulled out and allowed Twitter to fail.
And Sorkin kind of stutters and is like, no, no, the advertisers are going to say, you said those things and they couldn't be on the platform anymore.
And that's why they pulled out.
And Musk responds, we'll see how Earth responds to that.
Because, ultimately, if the advertisers aren't ruining something the public wants, like Twitter, I mean, there are a lot of Twitter competitors or ex-competitors out there, but nothing succeeded in replacing them.
And so people will know who pulled out and wanted to ruin it.
jack posobiec
Threads sucks.
tim pool
Elon needs to reach out to Anheuser-Busch.
And go for Bud Light.
I'm a big Bud Light fan, by the way.
Bud Light's the go-to beer.
Because they basically totally reversed course in the exact opposite direction by doing this.
So now you have Sean Strickland saying things I can't repeat on YouTube.
jack posobiec
And they're subsidizing it.
tim pool
And they're subsidizing it.
So I'm like, okay, let's push that.
Let's have that be the narrative.
libby emmons
Plus, who doesn't love a good redemption story?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I feel like I'm holding out.
They need a little bit more redemption from them, but it's a step in the right direction.
tim pool
But if every company that did some woke BS flipped and started sponsoring people we liked, we have to accept that as a win.
jack posobiec
You're not going to get rid of Anheuser-Busch.
The company's just too powerful to ever stop existing.
We talked about this on ThoughtCrime with the show I do with Charlie, You know, it's sort of like, at what point do you stop beating, right?
You stop beating until they correct the behavior.
So if they've overcorrected in the other behavior, then they're okay.
Now we have to- now, so Absolute Vodka, I think, Libby, you were- you were tweeting about this.
Like, they're- they've gone 10 times worse than anything that Bud Light ever did.
tim pool
Well, no more Absolute Vodka.
We- what do we have?
We have- our stuff's from Russia.
hannah claire brimelow
Tim's cutting himself off.
tim pool
Cutting off?
We never bought that crap.
We buy- our stuff's from Russia.
jack posobiec
The real stuff.
tim pool
Yeah, real stuff.
jack posobiec
Vodka.
tim pool
Exactly.
unidentified
The real vodka.
tim pool
That's how you do it.
jack posobiec
This is what you do.
tim pool
I thought it was funny too.
jack posobiec
Cure COVID with vodka.
tim pool
We bought it at like the peak of the Russia-Ukraine conflict.
And then the guy at the liquor store is like, that's from Russia.
And I'm like, I'll take three.
hannah claire brimelow
I never saw it again.
tim pool
I mean, legend says that Russia has the good vodka.
No one's actually had any, I'm pretty sure.
libby emmons
Really?
tim pool
Like, we have Grey Goose, too, in the liquor cabinet.
libby emmons
If they turn you to beer, Tim's gonna come in with like a Z on his... I used to buy Zhelka vodka from this liquor store called KGB Liquors on Essex Street in Manhattan.
tim pool
Oh, wow.
Everybody drinks scotch.
You're like, someone comes in and they're like, I'll have a drink.
They're going for some kind of like a scotch or a bourbon.
Nobody touches the tequila or the vodka.
One of those like college party drinks, I guess.
I'm like, we got good stuff.
We'll take care of our guests.
hannah claire brimelow
I think scotch would just savor a little bit more.
tim pool
I guess.
The best thing ever, shout out to Max Blumenthal, he went right for the malort.
And he was like, oh, malort.
And I was like, are you joking?
He was like, no, I love this stuff.
And I was like, oh, wow.
For those that don't know, it's a Chicago thing.
jack posobiec
I would say though, what Elon has done here, He has declared a new meme war.
He has declared meme jihad on any advertiser that's come.
That's what he's done.
He's gone to the heart of Wall Street, right?
And he has now declared war on any business that doesn't advertise on, or I should say that pulled out of X over this.
So to all the meme warriors out there, to the edgelords, to the posters, this is your call.
The banners have been called, the beacons have been lit!
Meme jihad on all of them.
tim pool
I want all of you, sitting at home, in front of your computers, with paintbrush on your taskbar, pinned.
To crack that open and make the memes.
And when you post that meme, I want to imagine that you are Gandalf on top of that hill at the Battle of Helm's Deep with the Riders of Rohan storming in.
jack posobiec
How did you know that I have it pinned?
I'm not even joking.
tim pool
Paintbrush.
jack posobiec
You know, I literally was hitting up my boy Still Boneless the other day because they changed MS Paint to like a new version.
Yeah.
And all the like original format is off.
And I was like, no, no, it's not working.
hannah claire brimelow
They're trying to thwart this.
jack posobiec
They're trying to stop the meme.
unidentified
Yeah.
jack posobiec
They're trying to stop the meme war.
hannah claire brimelow
Preemptive strike.
jack posobiec
So you can, you can, you can like down convert it and there's a way and Boneless figured it out.
tim pool
So I mean, OG MS Paint is like, For making the memes.
All of the drawings of characters in the memes are drawn, you know, haphazardly through MS Paint.
We don't need improvements.
libby emmons
No.
jack posobiec
Get out of here with that.
Like the original always has been the two astronauts meme.
That's very famously like a really crude MS Paint meme.
Like the original, original one.
tim pool
This was my pitch to Elon, and he's like, sort of there.
I was saying he should anti-advertise.
Perhaps it's as simple as what Jack is saying.
We should just start memeing all these companies and insulting them.
jack posobiec
Meme jihad.
tim pool
Yes?
Meme crusade?
jack posobiec
Well, Davey's Vault, baby.
tim pool
Look, Disney.
Who do they think they are?
Like, they made Mulan and thanked the security forces running the concentration camps, the Uyghur concentration camps in China, and they're gonna get on their high horse and insult X?
It's purely political.
Spare me your nonsense.
You don't care what Elon Musk said.
You're playing dirty games because you're crackpot weirdos, but I'll tell you this.
When Disney put out that statement about how they're losing, they mentioned their goals towards the environment and social change.
Quite literally, they're saying ESG has screwed us over and is costing all of you money.
jack posobiec
Because at the end of the day, right, ESG only existed, this environmental sustainability government.
Scheme was it was all about a stock scheme, right?
It was never anything that had to do with making a good product So the idea was that if you had a good ESG score that you would score bigger capital with like Blackrock and Blackstone State Street, etc So they would come in and they would capitalize you and then your stock would go your stock would rise and then also you would just gain more access to more capital markets more American capital markets through that and And so again, Nick, you wanted a better score.
So this is your question.
Famously, by the way, they screwed over Elon Musk for Tesla because they gave them a low ESG score.
And he's like, I'm literally the only guy in the world who founded a company just to do electric cars.
unidentified
How could this is the definition of ESG?
Right.
jack posobiec
And they got hit on diversity.
It's the definition of environmentally friendly.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm an African immigrant who started an electric car company.
What are What are you talking about?
jack posobiec
How could I possibly have a negative score?
And they hit him on diversity because he had too many white males.
And so, he's declaring his internal jihad against it, but there's a lot of people now looking at it saying,
look, we realize that this has gone way too far because initially it was just supposed to get your score up
to help with the stock, but then it just slowly dominated those entire companies.
It dominated their entire workforce.
Obviously with Netflix, we know it's, it's turned into a meme.
It's turned into a meme with Netflix where they're kind of like leaning into it now and they're making like, like, like the general Hannibal is going to be black.
Yeah.
Which is Denzel Washington.
unidentified
Wow.
jack posobiec
He's a great actor.
Like, we all love Denzel, right?
I don't think there's really any Denzel attractors out there, but... But the argument is that he's from Northern Africa, and even though it's Africa, he's not like a black African.
tim pool
I don't have a big problem with Idris Elba playing... 007?
No, no, no, no, no.
In Thor.
serge du preez
Oh, oh.
Uh, the watch guy, the guy with the eyes.
unidentified
Nah.
tim pool
Yeah, I know who you're talking about.
No, me neither.
It's like an actual like yeah, I know you're Norse mythological God or whatever and I'm like I don't have that
I don't have a big issue with like anyone playing any mythological.
unidentified
No me neither. Yeah But if it's like a historical figure historical figures are
hannah claire brimelow
worse I will say, even with mythical stuff, like, there are lots of cultures that have myths.
Why don't we just have new ideas?
Why don't we do new things?
Like, this is what bothered me about the Little Mermaid thing, and Disney pays for this, right?
They decide that they don't see enough diversity, and rather than saying, like, well, what cultures do we want to see diversity from, and what stories can we steal from them?
Instead, they're like, Hans Christian Andersen, we're doing it again, except we've just changed the skin tones.
And that feels so cheap and gross that I think, ultimately, it's collapsing around them.
It's the same thing when they're making these Teenie Bopper remakes of stuff, you know, what was it?
They had one like on Robin Hood except it was going to be a girl and it said the inner city and ultimately I don't even know if it ever got made because people don't like it.
It's transparent, it's cheap, it doesn't engage them intellectually, it's not really a form of art, it's barely a form of entertainment.
libby emmons
But they're not just changing the skin tone, right?
I mean, if you're just changing skin tone, that's one thing.
But you're also not just swapping gender when you do that kind of thing.
What you're doing is taking stories that have meaning, that have a place in culture, and transforming them into something that is meaningless and empty and dead.
So you're taking living stories and living narratives and you're just killing them.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, that was the thing about Snow White, right?
jack posobiec
Is this real, Tim?
I just saw a tweet.
The New York Times just deleted the Dealbook Summit with Elon from their YouTube channel.
libby emmons
No shit!
unidentified
What?
libby emmons
Oh, excuse me.
What happened?
jack posobiec
It says, yeah, just before the show, so obviously what this clip is from.
tim pool
I don't know how we track that.
If the video's not there, the video's not there.
How do we know it was ever there?
libby emmons
Maybe it has been archived?
jack posobiec
No, but someone has a link back to it from New York Times, underneath the New York Times events.
hannah claire brimelow
There's stuff with Elon up.
No, no, the Elon stuff is up.
Oh, it's CNBC has clips of it.
jack posobiec
Yeah, so I'm saying there's clips of it still out, but apparently the whole thing was being, according to the tweet from Adrien Ditman, they're saying the New York Times took down the full event from New York Times events.
tim pool
Interesting.
I'm going to stop right there.
You know what probably happens is when you can set live shows to not be public after they're done.
That may have just been the case.
jack posobiec
This video has been removed by the uploader.
Yeah.
That's what it would say.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure that when you're setting a live stream, you can set them so that after they're done, they don't appear as videos on your channel.
And it would say it's removed.
hannah claire brimelow
It doesn't look like they have anything from Dealbook Summit up.
tim pool
I don't know.
Like, the clips that were pulled, they were pulled while the show was still live.
jack posobiec
I mean, yeah, you can't stop the clips.
Clips are out.
But why would you pull it?
tim pool
I mean, I'm pretty sure they may have just made it to the show, went private as soon as it was done being live.
That's a common thing.
unidentified
Maybe?
tim pool
I don't know.
I'm just saying, before I say anything, I'd like to know for sure exactly what happened.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
If it was, the livestream was done, and it was on their channel, and you could watch the archive, and now it's been deleted, that means they went and actually removed it.
jack posobiec
I mean, they've got a bunch of other livestreams up.
tim pool
But I don't know why they would even do that, because... Yeah, but what are they from?
jack posobiec
One's from eight hours ago, one's from... Was it an event, or what is it?
Some are events, some are interviews, some are just different things.
tim pool
Yeah, maybe, maybe.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Perhaps that is the case.
Well, shall we talk about the war for your minds?
We got the story from Scanner at CNR.com.
Rumble files lawsuit against media watchdog group.
When anti-free speech zealots lie to inflict intentional economic harm on our company, we have no choice but to hold them accountable.
Video streaming platform Rumble has filed a federal defamation suit against two co-founders of a media watchdog group.
I don't think it's fair to call them a media watchdog group.
That's their language.
Who wrote this story?
This is Chris Bartman.
Chris Bartman.
See, he's doing the right thing in trying to be honest and fair in labeling the group what you would assume them to be.
If you understand what this group does, I would not call them a media watchdog group.
libby emmons
I wouldn't either.
tim pool
Yeah, lying about people and trying to engage in tortious interference is not media watchdog.
Maybe leftist or liberal political activism is probably fair to say, but just real quick to get to the opening context here.
Rumble is suing these individuals because they claimed that Rumble receives 90% of its funding through Google ads or something to that effect and that's not true.
Rumble says this is completely false and they actually told them this is not true and it's damaging to their brand because Rumble Their business is, we are independent from big tech.
So they said, they know it's not true, they won't take it down, we're suing them for defamation.
Which means, either these people knowingly posted lies, and considering they've been informed it's not true, that it seems that may be the case, or they have just reckless disregard for the truth.
But these groups, these individuals, have gone after Steve Bannon, Charlie Kirk, I'm pretty sure they go after you, right Jack?
jack posobiec
Well, they go after post-mortem human events.
libby emmons
They sure do.
tim pool
Do they have you listed as their insurrectionists?
I'm on the list.
jack posobiec
I'd have to look.
libby emmons
They came after us because of our work with Andy.
It's usually about Andy.
Yeah, they basically got Antifa to go after our advertisers and take us down.
tim pool
Oh, no, you didn't make the list.
Sorry, Jack.
It's Dan Bongino, Charlie Kirk, Tucker Carlson.
We got Glenn Beck, Steve Bannon, and me.
libby emmons
I reached out at one point.
tim pool
And I don't even know why I'm on there!
jack posobiec
Wait, scroll down a little bit.
tim pool
It's just, it's wild.
What are you looking for?
jack posobiec
Well, because it's talking about the January 5th show of War Room, because I was sitting next to Steve on that show.
hannah claire brimelow
He didn't make the cut!
tim pool
I'm like, why am I on this list?
jack posobiec
I will try harder during the next insurrection, I promise.
tim pool
They argue that I'm one of the biggest proponents of the big lie.
And the big lie is defined as Donald Trump claiming he actually won 2020.
And I've always maintained that... I've never heard you say that.
I argued with Bannon that no!
Like twice!
jack posobiec
So, uh... Like, you guys went at it in the third hour, too.
tim pool
Yeah, my position was like, dude, people keep saying Biden can't get 85 million votes, and I'm like, you're correct.
Trump got anti-vote.
Like, people weren't voting for Biden.
Don't think that.
But I think what we saw was procedural... But they were issued those ballots.
I don't know about that.
What I will say is, if you operate under the assumption that fraud is the reason you lost, you'll lose again.
If you operate under the assumption that Democrats were changing rules in ways that greatly benefited them, and they did, you will win.
For one, we saw in Georgia, Republicans lost the Senate race because there were people who were like, what's the point of voting anyway?
They're gonna steal it.
No, no, we can't have that mentality.
But anyway, without getting into all that stuff, because we don't need to, The fact that they are arguing I made these claims.
Now you totally get why they're being sued by Rumble, okay?
This is not a media watchdog group.
They're outright lying!
libby emmons
I actually reached out to one of the board members in 2021 when they were targeting Post Millennial and we were losing ad revenue and it was not a pleasant moment.
tim pool
You actually lost ad revenue?
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Because of them?
libby emmons
Yeah.
How?
Because they went after our advertisers and our advertisers refused to advertise on the platform.
unidentified
Wow.
libby emmons
Because if an advertiser sees that this is valid, they present themselves as... I asked them about it.
I asked one of the board members about it directly and she responded and she said, As to advertisers being intimidated into dropping you, advertisers are not so easily scared.
If they drop you, it seems worthwhile to look at why and make your choices about what or what not to do about it.
And she later said, you know, Keep your eye on the prize.
What is so important is to consider why would an advertiser drop a publisher they think worthy of support they wouldn't.
So she ended up saying, you know, basically that publishers make these decisions and the people who, where they advertise, like post-millennial, should make different decisions in order to keep the advertisers.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
libby emmons
So it is an intimidation thing.
hannah claire brimelow
For sure.
libby emmons
I mean, if they admitted it, and they also said in part that their goal is to destroy the ad tech business entirely.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
I mean, if they are not open about what their political leanings are, then, or even if they are, they can still be accepted as a mainstream reference, right?
You'll have things all the time that are saying, Oh, you're on the SPLC's list of whatever, and so we can't trust your opinion.
You're on this group's thing, so we can't advertise with you.
These lists are created so that they become taken as, you know, as gospel.
jack posobiec
Never trust any, you know, conservative that doesn't get ended up on one of these lists or doesn't get attacked by any of these people.
I want to ever trust them.
tim pool
I want to pull up this post from them so you can understand this is what Rumble is doing.
They tweeted, in case you're wondering where Tim Poole's been.
Right-wing podcaster Tim Poole isn't selling ads anymore after a successful Check My Ads campaign.
He's selling dot dot dot coffee, and we found out who makes the beans.
Uh, here's the thing.
We, we, we are, we are selling ads.
We have, we've never lost a sponsor.
Uh, we have all our sponsors still.
We, we literally just recorded several ads, what, on, on, what day is it?
unidentified
Wednesday?
tim pool
On Monday.
On Monday, I'm like, everyone get out, we're recording ads for the same sponsors.
We just finalized another six-figure sponsorship deal.
They're outright lying and using the lies to make money, to convince people to donate.
jack posobiec
Wait, so, because I remember seeing that when they posted that, or, you know, you were tweeting at them or something, and then I went back and was thinking, like, so sometimes if I don't catch the show live, I'll go back and listen on the podcast side, and I'm like, they're all there, like, you can hear it, it's totally normal, and it's been that way for, I don't know, years at this point?
tim pool
So, We've been doing mostly over the past few months direct reads for Casper Coffee, obviously, because we're building up our own company, which is probably going to crack over a million dollars in revenue in its first year.
jack posobiec
So in a conspiracy to profit, you've created a company and you're using your other company to leverage that new company.
I mean, this is the most nefarious thing I've ever heard.
tim pool
So, currently, we have our same ad sales rep.
We used to do more live reads during the show, now it's all just the recorded.
So, if you guys listen on the podcast, you'll get the recorded ads where it's like, better help, and the sponsors are all still there, and we actually do really well.
Like, substantially.
They're outright fabricating this, and I will add, The only reason we've not done live reads specifically, despite the fact we still have all these sponsors asking us when we will, is because we're trying to promote as much as possible Casprew, but we actually did a deal for some live reads on the show again!
You see how they use deceptive language?
First of all, they said, I'm not selling ads anymore.
Totally false.
We're absolutely selling ads.
We still have all the same sponsors.
And we just finalized a six-figure deal with a new sponsor.
So that is factually incorrect.
It is absolutely false.
And they say, after a successful Check My Ads campaign.
Is that fraud?
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like it is.
It doesn't make sense to me also because, I mean, did they get in contact?
Where did they find out that you weren't selling ads?
Obviously, if they had done any kind of research, that would have been false.
tim pool
They could contact our ad sales people.
hannah claire brimelow
They sort of were like, oh, Tim's not talking about something, so we've decided.
It doesn't make any sense.
tim pool
How are they monetized?
They take donations.
jack posobiec
So they're C3?
tim pool
Yes.
If you listen to the audio podcast, there's, I think, 10 ads Like, from a ton of different sponsors.
Yes.
jack posobiec
And they're fundraising off the lie that we don't- Some of it's you, some of it's inserts, some of it's like donuts, all different things.
hannah claire brimelow
It seems weird.
jack posobiec
Donuts is a style of ad, folks.
He's not actually advertising donuts.
It's when they send you part of an ad, and then you insert something, and then you know... Yeah, so here's the way it works.
tim pool
Some ad sales are like, hey, we have an ad, we want to run it on your show.
It's like, all right, great.
We have an ad company, we have a management company that handles that.
We just choose where on the show to put it.
And then a few of our sponsors, our bigger sponsors, they say, we want Tim Pool to read this personally.
We say, you got it.
And that costs, obviously, a little bit more.
And then, for this show, we actually have all of our sponsors.
We used to do reads for, like, Virtual Shield, there's SafeAndReadyMeals.com, there's, uh, what else do we have?
hannah claire brimelow
The, like, protein energy thing.
tim pool
Oh, right, we got the collagen, we have the camping gear and stuff.
Yeah, all of these sponsors are still there.
And we've actually been, I've been talking to the ad sales guy about end of the year sales to bring them back in because I'm like, look, we've been doing Casper this whole time.
Anyway, I digress.
I digress.
jack posobiec
Yeah, because usually my contracts run like, so it's like January to January.
So at this point, we're going into, really?
tim pool
Yeah, every month we renegotiate and that I like it better because I'm like, look, you know, we had a great month.
This month's gonna be bigger.
We want more money.
jack posobiec
Yeah.
So, well, I shouldn't say all, most.
tim pool
My ad guy just sent me like a December pitch and I said, yes.
And they're like, this is insane.
It's just absolutely insane that these groups lie.
Look, I guess they have success in some areas, like you guys were losing money.
I'm like, what are they talking about?
I never promoted the big lie, I never claimed Trump won, and we still sell ads.
Yo, this is wild.
I don't know, man, like, do I have to pursue some kind of criminal charge, like fraud charges against them?
Because I guess what you'd have to do is find someone who donated to them.
Because they believed this organization had negatively impacted our business, they also have a tweet up claiming that our website's demonetized.
unidentified
Which, it's literally not!
tim pool
It's crazy!
You know what man, whatever though.
But Rumble's suing them, because they're doing the same thing.
They claim that Rumble is operating off Google Ads, and Rumble's like, no we aren't!
In fact, I will add, well I shouldn't say too much, but what I can say is, Rumble has their own ads, that appear on Rumble.
unidentified
Wild.
tim pool
This is what these activists do.
They claim to be an organization that fights disinformation, but literally all they do is manufacture it.
libby emmons
Also, they're a not-for-profit.
Their 501c3 status is pending.
And I just wonder what is so charitable about this organization that tax dollars should be going to this group?
hannah claire brimelow
Right.
tim pool
I mean, the tax dollars don't go to it.
They just don't pay taxes.
libby emmons
They just don't pay taxes on it.
Exactly.
hannah claire brimelow
They're just claiming that they're doing a public service by, you know, telling you what's going on and the public has more information this way.
You know, they'll get their 501c3 status because ultimately the people who give to them are the same people who give to the political leaders who are in charge right now.
I mean, they see it as a benefit to their own mission.
And that's why they can send you emails being like, well, if you were better at publishing better stuff, then your advertisers wouldn't pull out.
It's not that we bullied them.
It's just we decided that you were an unwanted organization and told them that.
It's crazy.
It feels very dystopian to me.
tim pool
Like, listen- Maybe it grants individual donations.
hannah claire brimelow
The company does?
tim pool
Interesting.
Yeah.
So I'm looking up their filings.
hannah claire brimelow
That was the weird thing about hearing Elon Musk talk, which is that he's saying, you know, the advertisers believe they can ultimately get me to do what they want.
Even, even sort of opening up with, well, you're sort of on this apology tour.
And I felt like I could watch Elon Musk's tense and be like, I'm absolutely not on an apology tour.
I am not going to admit that you guys or admit wrongdoing.
Isn't that wrongdoing?
Or just partake in this manipulation of what you want?
And I think the weird thing is that ultimately, advertisers need the eyes, and the eyes are gonna stay on Twitter, meaning that the users are staying on Twitter, even if the advertisers pull off, right?
Like, the engagement on Twitter didn't dip because the advertisements went away.
Ultimately, to me, it seems like someone else will rise up and take those spots back.
Or they'll come back, because that's where the crowd is.
tim pool
Wild.
This is what we're up against.
libby emmons
Well, and Texas is, the Texas AG is suing Media Matters.
tim pool
He is suing?
libby emmons
He's investigating.
He's investigating Media Matters.
jack posobiec
So in Texas, they can't bring, their AG is situated a little bit differently, like he has to pass off a criminal case to someone else.
They can't bring themselves, like you can in some states, same with civil.
And so Missouri was a huge one because they're able to bring direct action.
But it's just a great example, right?
So, look at the Trump cases that are going on right now, from the left.
You've got the Attorney General of New York finding any pretext to go after him.
Literally any pretext to go after him, his company, his family, even things that didn't even happen in her state, she's finding a way to make it happen.
You see this with Fannie Willis, you see this again and again. One of the best, from
his perspective, one of the most strategic and most efficient uses of money that George Soros ever did
was in funding all of these people.
Because for a couple million bucks here and there, you compare that to like the Coke industry,
the Coke brothers who spent billions just drowning our country down the tubes.
And now they want to throw all this money behind Nikki Haley.
And you compare that to just a couple of million bucks that George Soros spent in key targeted races, whereby he's now able to have the President of the United States arrested, he's able to have the frontrunner for the Republican nomination be put under a series of trials, So all of this is going on.
Meanwhile, Republicans will sit back and go, oh, we can't do anything like that.
That's not fair.
You know, you've got all of these organizations.
Look what they did to the NRA.
Look what Letitia James did to the NRA and just completely castrated them in front of everyone.
Sure, they still exist on paper, but they're so much more castrated than they've ever been in terms of the 2A fight right now.
At a time where, you know, just to be frank about it, you know, the Republican Party needs single-issue voters.
Look at how the Democrats are utilizing single-issue voters when it comes to abortion and turning that into a massive ballot harvesting operation.
The NRA could be doing that if they existed or had any serious operations right now.
Just doesn't exist after what Letitia James did.
And Republicans will sit there and say, oh, that's not fair.
Meanwhile, Democrats are saying, let's strip Trump off the ballot.
Let's find any way that we can destroy you guys and keep pressing the advantage, because again, Democrats know how to use government power, they will use government power, and Republicans are terrified.
So I threw out there, and not to get into like the primary stuff, if you want to.
We're about to actually.
I threw out there that a guy like Ron DeSantis would never even Like he would be physically terrified to utter the words, I'm going to have Joe Biden stripped from the ballot in Florida.
Yep.
And you know, he has full power in the state super legislature.
You know, he could easily file a charge from his campaign saying that Biden is ineligible and you find pretext under the fact that he, that he took bribery from China, which is an impeachable offense.
And he could say, therefore you are not eligible to run for president under the constitution.
And you could file that lawsuit.
And this guy, he would be terrified to do that because, and you can say it's not the stones, not the backbone, whatever.
It's just, no, he is a pedantic rule follower.
He's terrified of actually standing up for himself and fighting back.
And it's why, like, he'll go on Lara Ingram and can't even, you know, can't even name Ronna McDaniel and say, oh, I'm, you know, terrified to do this.
You could see Lara, like, rolling her eyes at him.
And my point is that it's not even an anti-DeSantis thing.
It's just that there's a lot of Republicans like this.
They are terrified to actually use government power.
tim pool
Well, let's jump to this story from the Daily Mail.
You know what this means.
Exclusive.
U.S.
military is seeing UFOs in space, official report says.
And that can only mean one thing.
Hunter Biden was caught with weird money laundering again.
Fox News reports money laundering investigator warned of Hunter Biden's unusual erratic payments from China in 2018.
The bank investigator raised concerns about money that ultimately funded the $40,000 payment to Joe Biden, Comer says.
So, uh, Of course there's a big UFO story coming out on the same day that there is a mysterious Chinese payment to Hunter Biden in the news.
Surprise, surprise.
And it looks like Fox News' website is completely broken.
libby emmons
The best part about this story was that the bankers that flagged the payments said that there was no obvious services rendered.
I love that.
hannah claire brimelow
Who knows?
libby emmons
What are they paying for?
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think that UFO people are sad that the thing they love and are passionate about has been ruined by the Biden administration?
libby emmons
No.
hannah claire brimelow
I think they must be, right?
libby emmons
I think they're just stoked that people are talking about UFOs.
unidentified
No, no, hold on, hold on, hold on.
libby emmons
There was a Tucker show about it.
tim pool
No, no, the UFO people turned on Fox News, and they reported Hunter Biden, and they immediately called their friends and said, we got UFO news coming!
hannah claire brimelow
You're like, brace yourselves, it's about to happen.
Maybe that's good.
tim pool
Hunter Biden's in the news.
hannah claire brimelow
Because I was thinking, if you're a UFO person, you're like, the Biden administration is just releasing all kinds of fake information under the guise of UFOs to distract from Hunter.
But maybe the information they're releasing is legitimate.
And that way, you can really distract people.
You know what I mean?
Like, are they making stuff up to cover up Hunter's crime?
tim pool
They're stretching nonsense.
They have these minor reports where it's like a guysaw thing.
Who knows?
And now they're like, look over here!
Check this out.
In an email released from the House Oversight Committee on Wednesday, a Bank Secrecy Act manager raised concerns the payments did not appear to correspond to any services rendered, as well as Chinese efforts to target children of politicians.
The investigator suggested the bank re-evaluate its relationship with the client.
So you had private sector concerns that homeboy over here was taking dirty money from foreign governments.
Well, here we are, ladies and gentlemen, with new UFO news breaking as we speak.
How about that?
I want to explain something to everybody.
How money and finance works.
You know, they talk about Donald Trump hiring his family and his kids and all that stuff, and I'm like, yeah, it's not an easy thing to do.
If you own a business, and let's say, let's say you own a car dealership.
You're pulling in a million bucks a month.
That's like a good amount for a car dealership.
Now I'm not saying profit.
That's your revenue.
And so you got some, you got a good, let's say you got a good profit margin.
You think, I'm going to hire my son and I'm going to pay him six figures.
Good luck.
You need a clearly defined job, a job title, a legitimate job title, a recognizable job title, with clearly defined hours and structure, because what's gonna happen is, government's gonna come for you and say, what does your son do?
Why are you giving your son this salary?
We have questions.
Why?
Let's say you as an individual make a million bucks a year.
You're in the highest tax bracket possible, so you're giving like half of your paycheck to the government.
Let's say you get a paycheck for $10,000.
Cut that in half, give the government $5,000.
That's how it works.
Let's say you decide to hire your son and pay him $5,000 a month.
Well, now you've cut your cash in half.
For your $5,000, you're still cutting that in half.
Now the government's only getting $25,000.
Your son, who only makes $100,000, is in a lower tax bracket.
Now the government's not getting that $5,000 they thought every month.
They're getting only like $35,000 or $34,000.
This is why you cannot just give money to your family and your kids unless you have outlined clearly in the documents, in your corporate paperwork, and all of that stuff.
It is not... I don't want to act like it's a difficult thing.
I'm just saying...
If there's no clear services rendered, it is not surprising that the bank staff guy was like, uh, we should re-evaluate working with this guy, because that clearly is going to put them in, like, this bank is probably like, we're going to get, they're going to file discovery on us, we're going to get investigated.
This guy's clearly got illegitimate dealings going on, we can clearly see it.
jack posobiec
So he's required to look for that under federal law, there's all sorts, this is a huge thing.
tim pool
And this is exactly why.
So, it is not so easy in business just to have money and give money away.
First of all, you can't give money away.
There's limits.
There's tax, there's gift limits per year plus lifetime gift limits.
If you hire family members and they don't have clearly defined titles that are recognizable, and they're not being paid a market competitive salary, they are going to come after you.
unidentified
It's wild.
tim pool
You know, look, you start a business, and all of a sudden you're a Republican.
That's what they say, right?
And the reason why these Democrats don't understand, they think it's because of taxes.
I'm like, it's not just that.
It's like, you might want to pay someone a premium, and now you've got to argue why you're paying someone a premium.
Oh, this guy's really, really good at his job, he should get paid more.
And then they're like, you're paying him 40% above market, why?
We want to know why that money's going to him and not to us.
That's the kind of stuff they could go after you whenever they feel like it.
jack posobiec
I don't want to do the whole, you know, conservative, imagine if the shoe was on the other foot thing, but I should point out that Donald Trump is currently on trial for fraud in New York State.
And none of the banks filed any reports like this whatsoever.
tim pool
No, they're defending it.
hannah claire brimelow
They've all defended him.
jack posobiec
In fact, it's been the exact opposite.
And they defended him because they paid back with profit.
And that's why the banks were willing to continue to do this.
And yet we have another situation here where the banks were raising red flags, were filing potential fraud reports, and nothing seems to happen.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, they're not supposed to be mad about the Bidens.
You're only supposed to be mad about the Trumps.
The Bidens are allowed to do whatever they want.
jack posobiec
This is the three-tier system of justice, right?
And I heard you quote this the other day, that it's the three tiers, and I keep saying this over and over.
So it used to be two, now it's three, right?
So tier one, that's the elites.
That's Hillary.
If your last name is Obama, Clinton, Biden, Epstein at one point, you are fine, right?
Well, until you're a loose end, like Chauvin, for example.
He's a loose end, so got to get rid of him.
tim pool
So he was never in their club.
jack posobiec
That's no, no, no, no, no, no.
But I just mean loose ends.
Um, that, that, you know, that's tier one.
You'll, you can do whatever you want for the most part.
Um, then tier two.
So tier two, this is like, this is like normal, you know, you get pulled over for speeding, that kind of thing.
That's your normie kind of law.
That's your normal stuff.
And then tier three is Trump and Trump supporters.
And Trump and Trump supporters have a whole extra set of laws that you know, you know, okay, maybe you were just walking through the Capitol on your way out of the Capitol means you get beat in the back with a baton by the police, even as you're complying with their orders, or how about your your Married couple who shows up an hour and a half after people have already were already leaving you have no idea what's going on There's no signs.
tim pool
There's no cops.
There's no barriers you walk up and look around and then leave and they accuse you of all of the same crimes and Sentence you to a year in jail that happened.
I met I met some of these people I met him at a restaurant and they said hour and a half after people had already left and all that was done they walk up and there's the building doors open and No barricades, no signs, nothing.
They're not anywhere near any of the fighting or broken glass and they walk up and they're looking around and they wave and then they say, okay, whatever, and then they leave.
And the next thing they know, six, seven months later, they're getting served for criminal charges for having just walked around in DC.
jack posobiec
Shout out to Owen Troyer, who's currently behind bars, who didn't even go into the Capitol.
tim pool
And was at a permitted rally.
But it doesn't matter.
hannah claire brimelow
But they just brought up all of his posts.
This is what they're saying.
You think the wrong thing, you say the wrong thing, you're in trouble, and we want you to be behind bars.
tim pool
But I want to stress, in the three tiers of justice, a slight correction.
The first tier is, as you described, but the second tier is, you own a bodega, and a guy comes in and smashes everything, and the cops don't show up for any reason.
So that means you're in this no-man's land.
The laws aren't enforced against you, and they won't be enforced for you.
Then you have the bottom tier of being the Trump supporters and the MAGA people where you could be swatted 15 times in a year, ain't nobody gonna help you, and you fart in public and they're gonna lock you up.
jack posobiec
So in the Russian Civil War, during the Bolshevik Revolution, when the Bolsheviks first got in power, the idea was, and Libby, we were chatting on this before we got here, and if you read Always with Honor by Pyotr Wrangel, who was the general that fought against the communists, I actually got to visit his grave in Belgrade a couple weeks ago.
It's just amazing.
It's right in this little alcove in a church.
It's not marked or anything before you go into the church, but everybody knows that that's General Wrangel.
And his estate is completely refused even now after the fall of the Soviet Union to have his body transferred back to Russia because that's where he wanted to go because that church specifically is dedicated to the Russian imperial family, the Romanovs.
libby emmons
Oh wow.
jack posobiec
And that's from his perspective he was fighting for the rightful rulers of the country and as a patriot.
And so he said in this memoir that at one point that if you were a criminal who was caught with a knife, well, the criminal doesn't know any better.
He's responding to socioeconomic factors that are out of his control.
It's not his fault that he's lashing out this way.
Society has wronged him.
We must take care of him.
We must help him and put him back on the street.
But if you get caught with a knife, if you get caught with one, even if you haven't used it yet, now you're a criminal.
Now you're a domestic terrorist and you must be treated as an enemy of the state.
So a hundred years ago in Russia, this is exactly what they were doing.
libby emmons
Yeah, and also because I've been looking at the Gulag Archipelago, which I know a lot of people have been talking about lately, but Solzhenitsyn talks about when he was in prison at the Lubyanka, which I don't know how you spell that, but whatever, when he was in prison and he was being interrogated and everything.
jack posobiec
He's built in Russia, by the way.
libby emmons
You spell it in Russian, yeah.
I would never do that right.
But he talked about how people would come in and they would be interrogated and they would mention a former colleague who maybe they had been friendly with and then the next thing they know that former colleague is getting dragged in and being interrogated and it's just this perpetual guilt by association even though there hasn't been any guilt at any point.
You know, Solzhenitsyn was dragged in while he was serving in the military and he was dragged in for, you know, crimes and it turned out that His biggest crime was that he had an old friend who was on the front lines of the opposing side, and they were sending each other letters.
They were, like, still friendly.
jack posobiec
He was communicating with the enemy.
libby emmons
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think awareness of the multi-tiered justice system is strong enough to affect how people are going to vote?
Like, do you think that people who are on the fence have seen what's happened to the people involved in January 6 and will say so?
I hope so, but do you think?
tim pool
It's not January 6.
A bodega worker got stabbed, or they were trying to kill him and he stabbed a guy and they lock him up.
There was a family, this was a big story, looters came in and just destroyed everything for no reason, and the family's life and savings were wiped out, they lost 20 grand in product.
Regular people are experiencing that.
Anarcho-tyranny.
libby emmons
Yeah, or like when you go to the store and you can't buy anything without searching around for someone to unlock a cabinet, and there's nobody working, and it's just a self-checkout, and everyone's just getting high in the back.
tim pool
My favorite is in Chicago, the Walgreens, where there's no products.
libby emmons
It's just little signs.
tim pool
No, no, no, it's a big empty room with a terminal, and you walk up and type in what you want, and then after you pay, someone will walk out and carry the product to you.
libby emmons
Interesting.
You know, that's sort of like how grocery stores used to be.
My great-grandfather had a grocery store in Brooklyn and it would be like he would be behind the counter and my great-grandmother and people would come in and say what they wanted and they would bring them the stuff.
jack posobiec
You know what that is?
That's a form of rationing.
libby emmons
Yeah.
jack posobiec
That's actually a form of rationing.
libby emmons
It sure is.
jack posobiec
It's not just against shoplifting.
Soviet Union that, you know, Tanya will tell me that she remembers, not from when she was like a little older, but when she was younger, that if you wanted to go to the store, that you had to get your ration stamps.
And then you went to the store and you waited in line and you waited and you waited and you waited and you kept waiting.
And then eventually, if you had the specific stamp for, as you say, the item that you were looking for, then you handed it to the worker, then they would go into the back, then they would get it, then they would bring it out.
Because people don't understand that in Eastern Europe, in Russia, in Belarus, Ukraine, after the fall of the Soviet Union, it was a complete Wild Wild West free-for-all for almost a complete decade.
and crime and and like actual highway robbers like we say highway robbery but like actual highway bandits that was a huge thing you would get some of that stuff and some people would would you know gang up on you right on the outside so you had to go in in uh you know members when society collapses and you are inside of it um all sorts of horrible things happen i remember covering the freddie gray riots and it was like everybody knew everybody knew that at a certain time like it's all just going to go Have you ever had the Eastern European wafer cake?
Which kind?
Oh, like the full cake, the layers.
tim pool
So it's wafer?
jack posobiec
Yeah, all the time.
tim pool
Sweetened condensed milk, layer, sweetened condensed milk.
And when I was in Ukraine, they told me, well, what happened was they had no flour.
You have nothing.
So what do you do?
When your guests are going to come over, you boil in condensed milk, and then you put a thin wafer, you pour some on it, you put another wafer on top, you pour another layer, and that's how you make a cake to have, but it's literally just condensed milk.
jack posobiec
Yeah, Tonya's mom makes that for special occasions.
It's good though.
It's really good.
tim pool
I know.
jack posobiec
It's like all sugar.
hannah claire brimelow
But it's interesting, it's like something for special occasions that was an adaptation to the times that they were in, right?
I mean, I think about how many- You guys, Kissinger died.
serge du preez
Yeah.
Whoa!
He just passed in the chat here.
unidentified
Wow.
Really?
serge du preez
He didn't pass in the chat, but they just mentioned it, so.
hannah claire brimelow
He was in our chat when he died?
I'm sorry, Hannah-Clare, I shouldn't have interrupted you.
tim pool
Oh, I was just gonna say, I mean— Let's get it, ladies and gentlemen, huge news right now, 8.45 p.m.
breaking.
Henry Kissinger, who shaped world affairs under two presidents, dies at 100.
If we're on the Members Only show, I'd have a lot more to say, but we'll save it for the Members Only show.
I have a special, special statement for everybody when we start the Members Only show, but for now we'll keep it professional.
So, Jack, you were saying?
jack posobiec
No, I was going to say there was an interview that he gave recently, you know, kind of on the heels of one of these summits where he was kind of You could tell that he was sort of like on the way out in the interview itself, and you could see him being very self-critical in this interview.
And, you know, let's keep in mind that for all of his work during the Cold War, this was also a guy who was one of the main architects of globalism and the current system of that globalism.
And, you know, he came out and basically said, you know, maybe we got it wrong.
And maybe we shouldn't have pushed for all of this open border stuff.
Maybe we shouldn't have pushed for this migration stuff.
Maybe we should have realized that countries do have security concerns and the John Mearsheimers of the world.
He didn't say all this, but it's clearly what he was he was referring to, because you could see that he was reflecting, I think.
And I remember I was in I was at Davos where in 2022 where Kissinger came up and gave this huge speech blaming the blaming NATO for the NATO expansion on the war in Ukraine.
And it was suddenly like wait Kissinger of all people is coming out saying these things and it's almost like, you know, it's like towards the end as he can see the light fading, you know him kind of going back and maybe re-examining some of his steps and realizing that they Probably weren't the best moves.
tim pool
You know the meme where it's Death playing the crane game?
jack posobiec
The first thing that popped in my head.
tim pool
And he keeps going.
jack posobiec
Literally the first thing that popped in my head.
tim pool
You know, he's like, Norm Macdonald, is Henry Kissinger even in this thing?
Well, now someone can finally make it of him just going, Kissinger!
unidentified
Got him.
tim pool
That's it.
jack posobiec
So what do you think Norm's gonna say to Kissinger when they meet?
tim pool
Dude, I can't believe it.
This guy was so evil, man.
Henry Kissinger, a scholar, a statesman, and celebrity diplomat who wielded unparalleled power over U.S.
foreign policy throughout the administrations of Nixon and Gerald Ford, who for decades afterward, and a consultant and writer, proffered opinions that shaped global politics and business, died November 29th at his home in Connecticut.
He was 100.
Look, I never liked celebrating death.
You know, people dying is always bad.
I wish he wasn't such a nasty, nasty guy.
I can say, however, regardless of however you feel about it, the world will be better off, unfortunately.
I'm trying to be very nice, but there's just some people I cannot...
He's a bad guy.
He's a very, very bad guy.
He's got quotes that will make you throw up, this dude.
hannah claire brimelow
There's this article from Indy 100 that says the Is Henry Kissinger Dead Twitter account is tired of waiting for him to die.
This is from 2022.
And they were like, we didn't think this would be such a long-term commitment, which I think is kind of funny.
I think there were a lot of people who were not expecting this, but I don't know.
Here it is.
tim pool
He's an architect for so much foreign policy garbage, foreign intervention, nation building, disgusting racist comments.
jack posobiec
10 minutes ago. Yes. Well already up to 12,000 retweets. I've been doing it for two years. That's wild. Wow
tim pool
He's an architect for so much foreign policy garbage foreign intervention nation building disgusting racist
comments I mean this dude is just I
could not imagine that You know when I look at these serial killers and these
really evil nasty people who do really evil things I'm like, yeah, that's there's real evil in this world
When I look at Kissinger, I'm like, but he was smarter about how he went about the awful things he did so he could maintain power while he did it.
jack posobiec
Look, I mean, so you got a guy who came up with and executed the theory of Rappaport's Monde.
With communist China with Chairman Mao, right?
So he flies it because remember people don't realize is that oh somebody people know something.
Yeah, there's the name finally.
So people know that Nixon went over to, you know, kind of open up China and Nixon goes to China and this is what peels China away from the Soviet Union and eventually leads to You know, winning the war.
Well, Kissinger not only was the architect, Kissinger actually went there first and met with Joe Unlai in a secret trip that nobody knew about to kind of pave the way for Nixon going there.
And so, you know, Tim, to your point, you know, it takes a very cold, you know, like, Just an emotional, unfeeling mind to come up with the idea of, yeah, I'm going to sit down with Chairman Mao, probably one of the most murderous men to ever walk the face of the earth, but it's going to help us politically.
tim pool
Geopolitically.
We are just chickens to lay eggs for them to harvest.
So they're not thinking about you and your family, the pain and suffering you go through.
They don't care about what happens to your friends who died mysteriously in their sleep.
They don't want to answer any of those questions and they don't care.
That's why these people are disgusting and evil.
These are the sociopaths who fight for political power, gain political power, and this is the corruption we need to weed out of our government, and we can.
We can do it, and I think we're winning, and I'm happy to see it.
Every day there are more and more victories, and every day there are more and more signs that we're headed towards something better.
So I'm glad.
Again, I don't like ever, no matter who it is, having a celebration of some death.
Because the reality is the dude should have been a better person.
You know, life is precious, even someone as awful as him.
But you have to recognize sometimes there are people that cause too much destruction.
And so at the very least we can be like, well, I'm not going to cheer for his death, but I am going to be like, the world is going to be better off without his foreign policy ideas and all that.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, but the legacy of anything is still there, right?
Even if he's dead, the impact of the decision he made will still feel.
tim pool
It's true, but I'm hoping we get a good Trumpian statement where he was like, sad day hearing Henry Kissinger died.
He was a great man who did atrocious things and evil and, you know.
jack posobiec
And he never supported, well knowing Trump it would be like, and he never supported me.
He never once came in, you know.
And my favorite all time one of Trump responding to someone's death, which of course, obviously the RBG one is now just, it has become its own thing.
It's actually overshadowed anything that Ruth Bader Ginsburg did in her entire life is Trump's reaction to the news of her death.
And but there's the right after Trump got elected and Tim, as you say, sort of the the psychic energy, you know, as Jung called it, the the the the world spirit, you know, this this idea that that, you know, the What's the, what's the phrase?
The unconscious, the collective unconscious.
That he is, my fourth show of the day, that when Trump is, right after he was elected, before he was inaugurated, Castro dies.
And then everyone's, you know, coming to him like, Oh, Mr, you know, President, Mr. President elect, Castro is dead.
He's, he's passed away.
Finally.
It's like, I want to come up with a Formal statement and, you know, put out something, you know, very magnanimous as the president.
And Trump just picks up Twitter and goes, Fidel Castro is dead!
serge du preez
I was going to ask, wasn't Kissinger just in China recently?
I feel like he was just on the news a couple days ago.
hannah claire brimelow
How could he possibly be in China?
He's a hundred years old!
serge du preez
Yeah, there was something about him I read.
hannah claire brimelow
Just his ghost is there?
serge du preez
Does anyone remember?
hannah claire brimelow
I'll look it up.
libby emmons
I don't recall.
jack posobiec
He could have been at the ASEAN summit.
serge du preez
Oh, ASEAN, yeah, that's right.
jack posobiec
Which was in San Francisco.
serge du preez
I saw that he was in China.
I don't remember what it was exactly, but he had something to do with... He traveled back and forth.
jack posobiec
So he set up a farm policy shop.
serge du preez
Obviously he did a lot.
jack posobiec
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
That was very... July 22nd, 2023.
I forget what it was, but I saw in the news a while ago.
jack posobiec
I don't remember what it was.
He's been going back and forth to China ever since.
serge du preez
Yeah, for a long time.
jack posobiec
Yeah.
He was first and he kept doing it over and over and over.
And so, I mean, if you want to talk about someone who's been You know, just just at the forefront of the US China relationship since it began in the modern era with with Chairman Mao and the Chinese Communist Party.
That's that's Henry Kissinger.
And, you know, obviously someone who, you know, and I'm going to be actually flying to Japan tomorrow.
So I'm speaking at CPAC Tokyo.
On Saturday.
So, you know, I'm sure this will be kind of cast a, you know, a different angle on a lot of the topics that we discussed because, you know, when we're really looking at the system that we have now, the relationships, even the, the multilateral alliances that the United States has in East Asia, the security alliances, you know, it really was Kissinger who played a huge part in setting this all up.
tim pool
I just messaged Cassandra.
She was like, what's going on?
What did I miss?
The people who hate war are like, wow.
Well, I, you know, trying to be very professional.
The people who hate war are probably jumping up and down and dancing on their tables right now.
libby emmons
Why?
unidentified
I heard the reverse thing.
jack posobiec
The tankies are like war.
libby emmons
Yeah.
jack posobiec
The tankies went like full.
All right.
It's past nine.
The boys probably tankies are like fully orgasmic right now.
Fully.
unidentified
Fully.
tim pool
Yeah.
That's wild, man.
You know, seeing Trump win was, we were talking about this earlier actually, what everybody remembers the day, everyone remembers where they were when Trump won.
It was wild, right?
libby emmons
We were talking about that.
tim pool
Yeah, everybody was crying.
I was hanging out with Cassandra and Cassandra was crying, but she was crying for a different reason.
She was crying tears of joy.
Everyone else in the room was like sitting there covered in sweat and a bunch of them were legit bawling.
It was wild for me to see.
Adults cry over an election like this.
libby emmons
I thought I was laughing I mean cuz the thing too is it's like we've been through a number of elections and it's like okay now We have a different president.
I wonder how this one's gonna go Yeah, you know I remember talking to people in the theater community at the time and everyone was miserable and they were crying and they were sad and they thought it was literally the end of the world and I was like, well, why don't we wait and see what he does and You know, anything's possible.
Like anything's but yeah, but they're all bad.
I mean, that's a thing.
hannah claire brimelow
But there was a specific like fear and hatred like Clinton was bad.
libby emmons
Bush was bad.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, this is like what I remember.
I think I was living.
No, I wasn't living when I was still in Texas when Trump got elected.
And so there were people I was in college and there were people who were so excited.
I remember one of the fraternities got in trouble for hanging a, like, Trump 2016 banner out of their door.
They had to, like, take it down and get a fine or something.
Then there was, like, all of these different, like, you know, social justice organizations being like, we stand together, they will not divide us, whatever.
They were allowed to do whatever they wanted.
I mean, there was a complete divide and hysteria because it was totally built on the emotions of these people who felt as though their lives personally were threatened, as if Donald Trump would come down their chimney and I don't know that there is anyone who was afraid of Trump in 2016 who had accurate information.
jack posobiec
I mean, I was up in New York.
I was at the party.
That was pretty baller.
That was definitely one of the best nights.
tim pool
I was at the Sputnik office.
Cause that's where Cassandra had worked.
And they kept saying that Russia was supporting Trump.
And I'm like, dude, everybody in this building was for Hillary.
And when Trump won, they were losing it.
It was wild that night.
I just never forget when the New York Times had that probability meter that was like 90, greater than 99% for Hillary.
And it slowly started to move.
I remember when it hit 50% and people started being like, no, no.
Cassandra's sitting there like, oh my God, oh my God.
And then I remember when it was greater than 99 for Trump and there was a lot of crying, but Cassandra was the only one crying tears of joy.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
I remember watching it at like, whatever, after midnight and it was like, some Democrat I knew was being like, well, but Pennsylvania, maybe!
And everyone else is like, no, it's over.
Like, it's over.
jack posobiec
So that night, that day, I had been working and doing live streams all around Philadelphia and actually ran into James O'Keefe at one point.
Like a funny story about that, maybe we'll reveal it sometime.
Now, do it now.
Well, I'd want to talk to James first.
hannah claire brimelow
If it's so funny, just tell us live right now.
jack posobiec
Well, because he was in the middle of doing one of those things, so I don't want to break his OPSEC, so I'm not going to do that.
unidentified
I'm a middle child, what can I say?
jack posobiec
We realized that, I remember I was driving around looking for the different, so like the after work rush in Philly.
So that was when you would really get your major Philadelphia vote out, would always come in the after work rush.
Usually when people vote on election day you get, you know, it comes in three tranches.
This is before, this is like when we actually had like real elections.
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
What a quaint time.
jack posobiec
The crazy gaga that we have now that we call an election, which is really just a ballot counting exercise.
libby emmons
And in Philly you're pulling the levers.
jack posobiec
Yeah, so this is, you know, early morning, so pre-work, then lunchtime, then there's a huge dead time, and then there's the after work rush.
The after work rush never came.
I went to North Philly.
I went to West Philly.
I went to South Philly.
Just never happened.
And I said, Philadelphia doesn't have a rush.
Trump's going to win Pennsylvania.
Trump wins Pennsylvania, he's going to be the president.
So I drove to 38th Street Station, bought a ticket right on the spot, up to New York, straight to the party.
unidentified
Nice.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story.
Let's get a little political here.
It's from sdnr.com.
Black Lives Matter leader who endorsed Trump tells Fox News, the Democratic Party is not for us.
Will we get, uh, you know, let me just, we'll throw it back.
We'll go back in time.
The meme war was so much fun.
serge du preez
It was.
tim pool
Just all the memes were hilarious.
jack posobiec
Excuse me, excuse me.
Will be fun because Elon has just declared a new one.
tim pool
And that's my point.
This is what I bring up.
With a Black Lives Matter leader saying, you know what, the Democratic Party's not for us.
Trump is winning.
I should say he's improving among younger voters, among black and Latino voters.
Joe Biden's just in a horrible position.
And I have no idea how they could reasonably swap out Joe Biden at this point.
Are we going to have a resurgence of 2016?
Is it going to be the great meme war, the jokes, the Trump The Trump debate style?
libby emmons
I think that would be great because that really got people excited.
It got people excited and thought that everyone was on the same team, you know.
And I wasn't part of it at all, but it did look fun at the time.
hannah claire brimelow
From the outside?
libby emmons
It did look fun from the outside.
And you could kind of get the sense that something was coming and you weren't expecting it.
jack posobiec
I don't know anything about the meme war.
I never had conversations with Ricky Vaughn or Codrad Stump or any of those guys.
libby emmons
Oh, you weren't involved at all?
tim pool
Definitely not.
jack posobiec
Jack's a general... Not in any way involved in memery... Jack's a serious pillow salesman, so... I am but a humble pillow merchant.
And, Hannah-Claire, I just want to make sure that... I've been looking at your screen throughout the evening and... Creep?
Just, I don't know... What, creep?
unidentified
Did you say creep?
hannah claire brimelow
I'm gonna look at Hunter Biden and his payment.
jack posobiec
Is that creep?
And it just doesn't seem to be the mypillow.com website.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, you must not be a very good salesman.
jack posobiec
I'm so concerned of all the sales.
unidentified
I'm still concerned about all the sales that you might be missing when you're ordering.
You have to get it delivered in time for... I just don't know why you're not doing this.
tim pool
Christmas.
hannah claire brimelow
Only we had a good pillow merchant in the room to convince me to buy something.
tim pool
But isn't it actually really wild how hard they went after a guy who sells pillows?
It's like, is this your biggest threat, dude?
hannah claire brimelow
But his reaction to them calling his pillows lumpy was the best.
tim pool
Oh, that was amazing!
He's like, how dare you!
libby emmons
Don't call my pillows lumpy!
hannah claire brimelow
That's when they attacked his integrity, this product, which I honestly respect, you know?
libby emmons
I do too.
jack posobiec
Everyone in the world respected that.
Because I even saw people in Silicon Valley retweeting that saying, never attack a founder's business.
tim pool
Right, right.
jack posobiec
Never do that.
In your lumpy pillow.
You're lumpy, you're lumpy, you're in it!
It just lights the guy up.
I talk to Mike, right?
He's legitimately one of the nicest guys.
He's an extremely devout Christian.
I've heard him say, he said this publicly, so I'll just say it.
He'll straight up say if you get stuck somewhere or if you're in a convent, he will send a private jet for you.
unidentified
Wow.
jack posobiec
Like, anywhere, if you truly need it and you're trying to get somewhere and you're in a bind.
Like, I've heard him do that for people so many times, and even people that aren't in politics, that just someone he knows that has trouble, he's like, oh, send the jet, don't worry about it, everything will be fine, and he'll just do that.
And then just, I don't know how he, he just takes the price.
tim pool
We need to make sure the younger generation that wasn't... I mean, look, it's going to be 2024, so it's nearly 10 years since the 2016 race.
It'll be 8.
And there's going to be a lot of, you know, early 20s Gen Z people who are not old enough to have seen the meme magic.
serge du preez
Beautiful times.
tim pool
But really, I'm not making a joke.
Real quick, people need to understand this.
Meme magic was a reference to the very strange occurrences that happened online where memes... So on 4chan, for instance, when you make a post, you get an ID number, and weird things would happen with numbers lining up in certain ways.
It was...
It's just wild, the serendipity and the coincidence around people posting memes and how weird things are to coincide with the posts.
jack posobiec
Well, and not just the posts, but the way that it actually affected and influenced reality.
And so it had an influence on the real world.
Hillary's health, I think, probably was one of the biggest ones of these.
So we started hashtag Hillary's health, and we kept saying there's something wrong with her.
There's something wrong.
unidentified
And at the time, she was like... Was that before the 9-11 incident thing?
jack posobiec
So, do you want to hear the story or not?
Yeah, maybe in the third hour.
Or maybe at AmFest, also a promo code post, which I hear Tim will... I believe we're confirmed for AmFest.
Do you have any guests for AmFest, Tim?
tim pool
I don't know if we're allowed to say it, are we?
jack posobiec
Uh, I got a text that said to go ahead and say it, so if you want to, go ahead.
tim pool
Oh, okay, yeah, Tucker Carlson.
jack posobiec
So, TimCast, Tucker Carlson.
tim pool
Live on stage.
jack posobiec
We'll be live on stage.
AmFest.com, get your tickets now.
Do not come crying to me when the thing is sold out, which happens every single year.
One of these things, people go, oh, Pozo, can you get me in?
Get me a couple tickets, a couple comps, man.
Like, I know you got the hookup, I know you know Charlie.
Like, I ain't doing it.
Like, I'm just straight up not doing it.
So yeah, Charlie, I think, I know Charlie's going to be on, this is the on stage, so you're bringing the show out, right?
tim pool
The show is going to be on stage at AmFest, and our guests, I believe, are Tucker Carlson and Charlie Kirk.
jack posobiec
Yes.
tim pool
It's going to be awesome.
jack posobiec
That's going to be great.
So that's, you're doing it, Patrick Bet-David, I know Tucker's going to be broadcasting from there, Bannon's War Room, I'm going to be doing my show, Charlie's doing his show.
Patrick Bet-David is going to be also live streaming from there.
He's not just appearing, he's also going to be doing live, so like, you're going to get the valetainment.
tim pool
Dude, those guys are awesome.
jack posobiec
It's just everybody.
I think it's literally just everyone's coming back.
libby emmons
The post-millennial would be there.
We're going to have a booth.
jack posobiec
Post-millennial's got a booth.
We're going to have a bunch of people out.
Imagine not going to AmFest.
tim pool
It's not easy to do.
Doing a show on stage like this requires a lot.
jack posobiec
I remember last year.
It was wild.
It was definitely wild.
tim pool
And so we have to, as soon as the show wraps, we're on a jet right back.
Because we had to do the show Tuesday.
I had to do the morning show too.
But when we were talking and we said we wanted to do a big show, they hit us up.
jack posobiec
Well, if you get in trouble, I know a guy.
tim pool
He's got a jet.
hannah claire brimelow
You have to buy a lot of pillows, I heard.
tim pool
They're taking care of us.
They're helping take care of everything.
It's fantastic.
And so I'm really excited for this.
They were like, you know, let's get Tucker on stage.
hannah claire brimelow
It'll be cool.
tim pool
It's gonna be awesome.
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like Tucker coming on the show is a long time coming.
I feel like a lot of people have wanted to see the mashup.
libby emmons
Well, they used to be at the exact same time.
unidentified
Right.
libby emmons
So you couldn't, I mean, there was no way to make that work.
tim pool
Yeah.
libby emmons
Tim couldn't go on Tucker.
Tucker couldn't go on Tim.
tim pool
But after he left Fox, We actually, I don't know, I think our people reached out and it was a like, oh yeah, for sure, we'll figure it out.
And then we just never did.
It's the same thing that happens with Trump.
We get like, we had Lara Trump on the show and she's like, yeah, of course, let's make it happen.
I'm like, cool.
And then we just never do it.
And so I'm like, I don't know, I kind of feel like.
If slash when we have Trump on, it shouldn't just be us pursuing it for the sake of pursuing it, it should be like at a time where it really matters.
jack posobiec
Speaking of which, so I did actually discuss this with, speaking of AmFest, I did discuss this with Charlie earlier and, you know, so, you know, we were kind of going through because I knew there were some names that haven't come out yet.
Um, so on, on Trump, no news yet.
No, no news.
Yes or no.
Leaning towards, I mean, come on.
libby emmons
He really ought to come.
jack posobiec
You know, um, I, I, I would, I would say it's probably likely.
libby emmons
He gets a hero's welcome.
jack posobiec
But no news.
Um, uh, Vivek is confirmed.
Uh, Chris Christie, Chris Christie, just total no response.
libby emmons
He just didn't say anything.
jack posobiec
No response.
And again, like Turning Point reached out to every single Turning Point action.
libby emmons
But you know, Chris Christie just the other day on the news was saying how his campaign was really picking up steam.
jack posobiec
No, he was picking up cream, actually.
Oh, is that what it was?
He was at Krispy Kreme.
Yeah, he was picking up cream.
That makes more sense.
You must have heard him, or maybe he misspoke.
So Nikki Haley, probably not.
Ron DeSantis, Governor Ron DeSantis.
Again, because the offer went out everywhere.
libby emmons
DeSantis is coming now.
jack posobiec
It's the opposite.
So there was a conversation that was being held.
The conversation is now over.
From what Charlie told me just prior to the show to now, Ron DeSantis will not be attending AmFest.
tim pool
He found out I was coming.
libby emmons
That's his second turning point snub.
jack posobiec
After I just described every single entity, organization, group, all the hottest podcasts in the entire country are going to be there.
hannah claire brimelow
But their heights are publicly known.
jack posobiec
Many of which, one of which he was just on, many of which are from Florida.
Yeah, he has decided to decline to come to Turning Point yet again.
libby emmons
I think that's crazy too.
jack posobiec
Which is the largest conservative grassroots event in the entire country.
libby emmons
He's running for president!
And he doesn't like the base.
jack posobiec
And he's going to debate a governor tomorrow, right?
libby emmons
For some strange reason.
It's like he keeps saying that he just doesn't care about the base conservatives in this country.
He doesn't want their vote.
He goes on all of the other networks.
He snubs Turning Point.
It's really crazy how he does that.
What, does he actually think people are going to come around?
Well, so be like, oh, you won't show up.
You won't talk to anybody.
jack posobiec
And they keep saying that.
And it's very strange to me.
It's perplexing, because I've been at turning point events in the past where Ron DeSantis spoke and prior to him announcing that he was running against Trump, but where he was given a standing ovation by the crowd.
They loved him.
Yeah.
And I don't think it would be an unfriendly, you know, hostile event in any way.
That being said, you know, it's a primary, bro.
You know, you gotta go into these things.
But the perception of it is just so bad.
If you look weak, you look terrified.
tim pool
If he showed up, the response from the Trump supporters would be to shake his hand and say, I respect everything you're doing in Florida.
I hope you understand why we're supporting Trump.
I think you're doing a good job.
They wouldn't attack him.
And that's his opportunity to make a case.
You know what I think?
I don't think he has an argument.
I don't think he actually has formulated how he actually says you should vote for me over Trump.
jack posobiec
He doesn't have one. He just says I'm gonna fight. I'm gonna fight back. He he'll make these these odd sort of
Persuasions about Oh personnel well personnel, you know personnel
personnel is going to be going to be going to be key.
Okay, but what's the argument right?
You've got a guy who's got, you know, just just put my, you know, dirty political strategist had on for a second
here.
You've got a guy who's got higher name ID than almost anyone
in the entire world.
Someone who's by far the most famous conservative on the face
of the planet.
So explain to me then, but when given all that and oh, by the way, the majority of the party because remember you
run in the party then you run in the general.
It's one, then the other.
It's not straight to general.
So they keep making these weird general election arguments, which are completely baseless, by the way, that only Ron DeSantis can win the general, which there's just no evidence for whatsoever.
libby emmons
Well, he can't win the general if he can't win the nomination.
jack posobiec
But most, I'm not going to say half, the majority of the party feels that Donald Trump actually won the 2020 election.
They feel that January 6th was about protesting a stolen election and they want Trump to go back and finish the job.
That's a really easy sell for a political candidate.
If you've got someone who's arguing against that, Uh, it just comes across as really self-centered.
It comes across as really selfish.
And quite frankly, it comes across as politically stupid because you could have, he could have gone.
And I said this so many times behind the scenes, all you had to do was say, uh, Donald Trump has unfinished business and I'm going to be supporting him in 2024.
Then, regardless of what happened in that election, all of MAGA would remember that DeSantis had stood by the man who put him in the governor's mansion of Florida.
Instead of running this insane betrayal of a backstabbing, raising millions of dollars, laundering it through the Republican Governors Association, putting it then into the governor's race in Florida, which was a non-competitive race, Taking those millions of dollars away from competitive races all around the country.
Democrats win, then they blame that on Donald Trump.
Then he rolls that same money, which again, which was supposed to go to gubernatorial candidates, into his own presidential campaign.
This is where Never Back Down starts, because they roll that over into federal.
You can't go one-to-one, but they brought most of it over, the bulk of it.
And then claims all the time that he's just on a national book tour and he's not really running for president.
hannah claire brimelow
That was so fake.
It was weird.
unidentified
That really pissed me off too.
jack posobiec
And all the while, remember, you chose this.
You all chose this.
You could have sat back, And been handed the baton, the mantle of MAGA as the heir apparent and literally walked into the White House in 2028.
hannah claire brimelow
But obviously there was someone in his ear saying, you don't want to be tarnished with that brush, right?
There was someone who talked him out of seeing Trump and the potential role as an heir apparent as a good thing.
jack posobiec
Look, you can say what you want, but at the end of the day, I mean, he's his own man.
hannah claire brimelow
But wouldn't that be what the implication was?
Because they had a somewhat positive relationship at one point, and then it was like, well, you could run for president now and challenge Trump, or you could wait four years and do it then.
Someone had to convince him that the timing was right now.
To me, it seems like the argument must have been you don't want to be branded with the
MAGA mantle.
But what argument is that?
Because we know the core of the Republican voters are MAGA.
They do support Donald Trump.
jack posobiec
The thing that gets me is that they don't recognize it as a betrayal.
They think that it's just some sort of, oh, it's just a free for all.
And you know, so anyone can run for president and it's fine.
Excuse me.
You were a back bench congressman that nobody can, you don't even talk about your own accomplishments from when you were in the house because you don't have any.
He was another guy at dinner when we were at Trump tower or Trump hotel in DC.
And Oh, by the way, that's right.
You were eating dinner out of a building on the front of it was the name of the man that gave you the ability because You know, you were going to run again for Senate against Marco Rubio, but then Marco said that he was going to come back in.
So you cucked out of that and said, well, what am I going to do?
What are we going to do?
And then, okay, because you didn't want to run against little Marco.
So then you said, all right, well, I've got this infrastructure statewide.
Maybe I can roll that into a governor's race.
So you went and did that and you were about to lose to Adam Putnam.
And then you came to Trump and then you begged and begged and begged and don't even Did they say I didn't do that?
Yes, he did.
He did.
Yeah, he went and begged for the endorsement.
And Trump was going to get behind Putnam because everybody thought that Putnam was going to be the guy.
I was like, fine.
We wanted a governor who could win.
And remember, Florida was a 50-50 state back then.
Andrew Gillum, right?
The, you know, the coke addled sex fiend.
within just a few votes like like less than a percentage of becoming the governor of Florida
and if it was only for Donald Trump and only for the MAGA grassroots who went down there
after the election using the slogan.
I'm just gonna say it Tim.
I'm gonna say it hashtag stop the steal.
You're gonna say something else hashtag stop the steal to fight for Ron DeSantis that that
put that over and won Broward County.
And there's no recognition of any of that work.
There's no recognition of those rallies.
There's no recognition or even thanks for putting you there.
It's I'm going to run against you because I think I'm better.
And yes, I'm sure there are people who, you know, found some way to, you know, use verbal judo to be able to say that it's not betrayal, but it is.
And I'm sorry, it just is.
hannah claire brimelow
See, that makes me want to know who did it.
Like, what part of the Republican donor class or what political operative was like, this is a great idea, we should do it.
I wish that we could have a name because that would be interesting to know who twisted one political career because, you know, Donald Trump has a lot to offer the country.
He could only be president for four more years.
Who is after him?
jack posobiec
There is a darker potential read on that.
You know, because, you know, we were just talking about Kissinger, right?
So who would want to talk someone into destroying their own political future by convincing them to do a political suicide run against the most famous conservative in a generation?
tim pool
Somebody who wants the neolibs and the neocons to regain power and Bingo.
jack posobiec
push them all out. Right. So you incite a MAGA civil war.
libby emmons
Yep. Which is exactly what happened.
jack posobiec
You you get you pit MAGA against each other. You split them down the middle.
And to be fair, like I actually expected to Santa's to run like a real campaign.
libby emmons
I have no idea. He did not run a real campaign. It was so bizarre. I mean,
jack posobiec
there are ways you can drop bombs on Trump from the right, but they just they just never did.
It never came.
It was this weird, like, insinuation kind of thing, and then, you know, they've kind of started to now, but the attacks are, like, really weird and confusing and very, like— And cringe!
Yeah, they said he had a foot fetish, like— Right?
libby emmons
That stuff is weird, too.
It doesn't make any sense.
jack posobiec
Like, this is the opposite of meme magic.
unidentified
So, it's a great example of— Well, because they can't run against his policies.
jack posobiec
It's a great example of so you're talking about me magic before and by the way there's a whole other theory I have and maybe it's more of a third hour theory that the lockdowns in 2020 were actually designed to prevent me magic from seeping back into reality so me magic was kept on lockdown because remember right all of this station remember folks remember never lose sight of the prize we are in a time traveler Chrono war with the globalists. That's what's really going
unidentified
on right? What do you mean? Well, Steve Bannon our third hour
jack posobiec
Steve Bannon is a bear from the future. That's right. Who's been sent back to guide his father
There's a height no differential with the time-space continuum. No, it's you know, when you get older you get
tim pool
shorter But Steve Bannon's actually pretty tall.
jack posobiec
He's taller than average.
unidentified
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
He's not 7'1".
tim pool
No, but I'm not saying like he's not 5'6", 5'7".
jack posobiec
No, no, no, no, no, no.
But I mean, to be fair, Baron's like 7 feet tall.
But yeah, Baron is enormous.
That's what I'm trying to say.
Yeah, well, but to my point, though, is that we never get the Civil War.
So the Civil War, you know, it starts, but then it stops.
They have these completely strange attacks on him.
They go and make these absolutely boneheaded political decisions, like agreeing to debate a guy who's not even running for president.
libby emmons
Right, what's up with that?
That's so weird.
jack posobiec
And platforming him, which only has upside for Newsom, right?
libby emmons
There's no upside for DeSantis.
jack posobiec
There's no upside for DeSantis, and plenty of potential downside.
libby emmons
Because if he loses, he looks really bad, and if he wins, like, he's supposed to.
jack posobiec
It doesn't matter.
tim pool
He's supposed to, and he's like, I got somebody who's not running.
jack posobiec
Right, getting him to agree was all Newsom needed.
So now suddenly Newsom's got people talking about him as a presidential candidate, which plays into his interests.
In the Democrat shadow primary that's going on right now because they want Biden to drop out.
They want him to do this.
Jill won't let it happen because, I mean, it was rough, dude.
And you could see Biden looking at, like, giving the side eye to Jimmy Carter, right, at that funeral yesterday.
And you could tell that he's looking at him going, I also want to be in hospice, you're right.
Well, it's rough knowing that that's what's right around the corner.
You know what I mean?
It's rough seeing it and being confronted with Because deep down he knows, right?
He knows.
libby emmons
Well, he's got the dementia shuffle going on.
jack posobiec
Folks, he's not getting better.
What did he say?
Trump was a congressman?
Yeah, earlier today he said something about Trump as a congressman.
hannah claire brimelow
Look, his Christmas tree fell over.
It's a sign that everyone thinks he can't make it, including the universe.
jack posobiec
There were even reports early on after October 7th.
hannah claire brimelow
It's just a symbol of his administration.
It's not great.
jack posobiec
That Biden was confusing Hamas and Russia and the Israel-Ukraine situation.
libby emmons
He's tired!
He's been confusing Ukraine and Iraq for years.
jack posobiec
Ukraine and Iraq, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
It's hard to keep these things straight, especially when you can't remember anything.
jack posobiec
You couldn't brief him on what was going on because he would say, well, why would Putin do that?
And they're like, Putin didn't invade Israel.
Like, how would he do that?
Come on, man, we gotta bomb Lichtenstein!
And it's just bad.
It's just so bad.
But, you know, it's the one thing that's sad to me is that, you know, I look at the Republican Party and, you know, you look at a guy like Ron DeSantis, who at one point, what I think everyone considered to be just a rising star.
Someone had an incredibly bright future.
And then you look at these guys, like I said before, like Lil Marco, like Scott Walker, You know, Tim Ryan, Tim Pawlenty, T-Paw.
Anyone remember T-Paw?
You guys wouldn't even know what I'm talking about.
libby emmons
Yeah, I forgot about him.
jack posobiec
There were all these young guns out there who were going to be the next heir apparent to the party that are just complete nobodies now.
And it's like, good job, dude.
You decided to troll yourself into a relic.
hannah claire brimelow
But this was a conversation I got hearing from a lot of people.
I think I remember Ben Shapiro saying it in particular.
With DeSantis they said either you run now or you lose your moment.
You don't know that the momentum will be there in four years.
I think that tactic scares a lot of people into bad positions, right?
jack posobiec
So that's insecurity.
What that is is that's insecurity.
So you're saying that I'm not good enough on my own and deep down you think that you're not good enough on your own.
And so you have this insecurity that I need the trappings of power.
I need the ability to be the governor while I'm running.
Therefore, it doesn't matter that I can immediately after winning reelection from the voters of your state, then turn around and by the way, not just betray Trump, but betray the voters of your own state, your own electorate and say, I'm not going to stay here and serve the people of this state who, by the way, I've seen their insurance rates go up I mean, they're being hit by hurricane after hurricane just of insurance rates.
Not only are you going to betray the guy that put you in office, you're going to betray the people who literally just voted for you to be their governor, and you're going to go gallivanting around the country running for president in a campaign that has completely no sense of itself, and no chance, and no reason for being.
hannah claire brimelow
So what do you think DeSantis should have done?
Because he's term-limited, right?
He couldn't have run for governor again.
jack posobiec
Endorse!
unidentified
Endorse!
hannah claire brimelow
Just endorse!
And then what would he have done in the interlude for the four years?
jack posobiec
Whatever you want!
hannah claire brimelow
But if he wants to stay in office, that's my thing.
Why do you have to stay in office?
libby emmons
Well, he could have been VP.
tim pool
He could have been VP.
libby emmons
Yeah, he could have been VP.
hannah claire brimelow
Could he have?
They're both from Florida, though.
jack posobiec
He could have been.
Then one of them changes the residence.
It's not that hard.
Chaney did it.
tim pool
And Trump's in Bedminster anyway, in New Jersey.
jack posobiec
Or he could be appointed Secretary of whatever.
He could have been Attorney General.
He could have been Secretary of State.
libby emmons
He would have been a good Attorney General.
He was a JAG officer.
hannah claire brimelow
But it's interesting they were just basically able to scare him into if you don't do it now your career is over.
jack posobiec
It made no sense.
And I, I remember talking to, I'll just say DC people, DC insiders, who they, they was that same exact line.
We has to do it now.
And, you know, Christy, Christy missed his chance in to run in 2012.
We're coming off of the governorship and you got to do it.
You got to strike when the iron is hot.
And it's like, read the room, man, just read the room.
And so that being said, you know, I'm glad that this all happened this way, because if someone's political instincts are that bad, imagine if he was actually in the oval office.
unidentified
Right?
jack posobiec
Imagine if he's in the Oval Office, and now he's got those people in his ear that are convincing him how to act, and they're saying, you gotta do it.
You just gotta bomb Iran.
You just gotta do it.
No, no, no, no.
You gotta bomb Iran.
You gotta strike while the iron's hot.
They paid Hamas off.
You just gotta go.
And there were people like Lindsey Graham who just, you know, anything happens.
He's like, bomb Iran.
Henry Kissinger died.
Bomb Iran.
Well, he's got a bomberang because they killed his Kissinger.
No, no, he's 100 years old, Lindsay.
Like, no, just, well, I mean, it's like the second coming.
hannah claire brimelow
In his memory, we have to do that.
jack posobiec
Yeah, second coming of McCain in many ways.
And then you get John McCain-Heels, who is Nikki Haley, you know, running, which I love, you know, having Jamie Dimon come out for her at that same event.
You know, so it's like Wall Street basically just saying, yes, we fully support the military-industrial complex.
Let's get it all back together.
So the neocons keep trying to sort of, like, come back in.
And to some extent, a lot of them lined up behind DeSantis as well.
So I think you had a lot of these vested interests that were shut out of the Trump administration and certainly didn't agree with Trump on foreign policy, absolutely didn't agree with him when it came to trade, certainly didn't agree with him when it came to immigration, and they saw Ron DeSantis as a sort of vehicle whereby they could push their own interests and their own agenda by potentially seeing if they could unseat Trump in the primary.
You know, there was definitely an opening that DeSantis, I think, could have made it, you know, maybe a little bit more competitive, but just the way that he conducted himself, it is going to be studied for years to come as just a complete debacle of a presidential campaign and a total misunderstanding of how politics works in the Internet era.
libby emmons
Well, you brought up the book tour, too, which I remember when that was happening.
And you're just looking around going, he's running.
Why won't he just say he's running?
Why won't he just say he's running?
And the people that surround him in this campaign have really advised him so poorly.
They tell him to stay away from certain press.
They tell him to go all in on other stuff.
They're telling him to stay away from TPUSA.
They came up with that ridiculous announcement on Twitter, which didn't make any sense because it was the most lackluster possible announcement.
You know, there were ways to make that work and be effective.
And fun and buoyant, and it just wasn't.
jack posobiec
Well, and let me like I'm just gonna say it they were lying to people they were lying to people like crazy
Saying that he wasn't running he said it was and you know, he slipped up the other day kept saying it
He slipped up the other day on that Laura Ingraham interview where he said, you know back in
2022 I was the only candidate who said that we should have change at the RNC
And then he catches himself.
I mean, I was the only one who became later a candidate.
libby emmons
Is that what he said?
Who became later a candidate?
jack posobiec
Something along those lines.
libby emmons
That's ridiculous.
jack posobiec
So he catches himself before she says something and then he came in to correct it.
But it was that classic Freudian slip where he knew that he'd basically just given away the game to say, yeah, OK, yeah, obviously I was running for president.
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Alright, uh, Kilted Carnivore says, not first again, despite the fact you are first, sir.
You see, he's hedging his bet.
He doesn't know if he's gonna be first, so he says he's not, then when he is, it's, oh look, you know, there I was actually first.
hannah claire brimelow
He has to have some more confidence, he can't be like DeSantis over here.
unidentified
Yeah.
jack posobiec
You gotta be a little more confident.
Ridley Scott has this whole movie about how men shouldn't be ambitious, and it's called Napoleon, but it's not about the actual Napoleon.
It's about a guy who thinks he's Napoleon, and he's just constantly getting cucked by his wife, and that it leads him to more poorer and poorer decisions.
Whereas the real Napoleon was someone who was increasingly confident and was willing to be that man of destiny, as Hegel described him.
tim pool
Yeah.
Alright, we got AlphaTurk who says, Disney should be awarded a defense contract after producing more bombs than Lockheed Martin.
That's a good one.
unidentified
That's amusing.
hannah claire brimelow
Amusing.
jack posobiec
Need drums in here so she can do the rim shot.
tim pool
We have a cajon.
jack posobiec
We do actually have drums here, that's true.
Zurg, get out, rim shot!
serge du preez
We'll have drums here for this Friday.
tim pool
They want to do full band.
serge du preez
They do.
tim pool
Wow, okay, that's going to be great.
Are you producing on Friday?
I hope we can do the audio, I think I should work out.
The Defiant is going to be here.
So, super excited.
jack posobiec
Seriously?
tim pool
Yeah, it's Dickie Barrett and Pete Parada.
jack posobiec
Oh my gosh.
unidentified
Yeah.
jack posobiec
All right, I'm gonna fly back from Japan just for that.
And then go back.
tim pool
Yeah, we're having him on the show.
Pete Prada, of course, he's done drums for our music.
He's super cool, super cool dude.
Dickie Barrett, everybody knows.
Come on, he's mighty mighty boss tones.
hannah claire brimelow
So are you guys like doing show and then the last hours then?
tim pool
At 10, they're gonna play some music.
And we have this massive band set up.
It's gonna be awesome.
So I guess we're gonna have a full drum set.
libby emmons
Is it members only?
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
Live on YouTube.
libby emmons
Live on YouTube at 10.
tim pool
Yep.
And then what we're going to do is, when we book more and more musical guests for the end of the show on Friday night, we're going to put those clips on the Trash House Records YouTube to have this, like, library of music.
unidentified
That's awesome.
tim pool
And we'll probably do other special events.
Super excited.
I keep telling Phil, like, we want All That Remains, and he's like, yeah, we'll get it.
I'm like, come on, man.
Like, we want All That Remains.
hannah claire brimelow
Can they do acoustic stuff?
It has to be an acoustic set.
It's like a Tiny Desk concert that, like, MDR does, right?
serge du preez
They can do it on plug.
tim pool
I mean, I guess The Defiant's gonna go full band.
I mean, we definitely have the means to do it.
serge du preez
We just need more space.
tim pool
Yeah, it's just, the new studio's bigger, and so it'll be a lot easier.
There's enough space there.
serge du preez
Yeah, there's enough, for sure.
I would panic the cameras guys, but they're off right now.
tim pool
We're just gonna have to move the cameras, because the original setup was like two seats, acoustic set, and they were like, we could do full band, and I'm like, alright, let's roll.
serge du preez
Carter's been overtime on it, but we'll get it done.
unidentified
I was gonna say, are you producing or is Carter?
serge du preez
Carter will be here for the after show.
We haven't really decided yet.
We'll figure that out tomorrow.
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, capturing all of that live sound is not going to be easy.
serge du preez
It's a lot.
tim pool
But I think we've got it easily.
It's just, you know, Carter is really great at getting that music, so I think we'll be good.
Let's grab some more.
Andrew Lignal says, YouTube won't let me write any variation of F after the word go.
I just wanted to cheer on Elon.
Well, we got in the title, I guess.
I wonder if it negatively impacted the show.
jack posobiec
And if you wagered, Texas with the dollar sign.
tim pool
Yeah.
We'll grab some more super chats.
Bricktop says, Jack, why do you always look so sad in photos?
jack posobiec
This is what not sad looks like.
libby emmons
Let's do that again.
That is very un-Jack expression.
tim pool
Alright, T-Rex Pet Shop says, You know we're winning when the news lies about a Kansas Chiefs fan calling a kid racist, but he ends up being Native American.
Must be embarrassing.
They can't find racism, they have to lie about it.
Yo, that story's so wild.
hannah claire brimelow
This gets better and better every day.
tim pool
This Native American kid wears a headdress.
jack posobiec
His grandfather is like a chieftain.
unidentified
Yes!
jack posobiec
Like a tribal council leader.
hannah claire brimelow
Isn't his dad like on the chief's board or something?
jack posobiec
Like he's an actual Kansas City chief.
Yeah.
tim pool
And they were like, he's racist for wearing half black, half red.
jack posobiec
And then they showed the video of him doing the tomahawk with like a bunch of black.
tim pool
The black team members are doing the chop with the job with him and the kids, Native American.
And his grandfather is on a tribal government council.
He's like, he's a chief.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
jack posobiec
Which I was gonna say all the naming of American sports teams after Native American warriors, Indian warriors.
You know, it was supposed to be a mark of honor as in these are incredible warriors.
hannah claire brimelow
They're aspirational.
jack posobiec
You wouldn't want to name yourself after like a loser or someone who's like, it's always meant as a badge of honor.
tim pool
What's the thing they do in New Zealand?
libby emmons
Oh, the haka.
That thing is so cool when they do that.
unidentified
I love when they do that.
libby emmons
No, I just think it's cool when they do that.
I mean, New Zealanders are white.
jack posobiec
Libby was doing her haka the other day.
We asked her politely but firmly to stop the haka.
tim pool
I was reading about Maori fighters, I was playing Civilization, and they were crazy.
European colonists struggled against them more than any other indigenous population.
libby emmons
That's why there's a lot of Maori.
jack posobiec
They didn't get rid of them.
tim pool
And that's why, I don't know the history, but something like often the Europeans conquered, and I think with the Maori it was like a ceasefire.
serge du preez
Yeah, the British were trying to take over New Zealand, they just couldn't really.
tim pool
Yeah, the Maori warriors were just like, ain't gonna happen.
libby emmons
The other thing too with the removal of Indian names and Indian symbols in America, with all of that removal.
serge du preez
They didn't do that in New Zealand.
libby emmons
No, we're doing it here though.
And what's happening is that is basically going to spell the erasure of Indian culture from Mainstream culture, because we're not seeing a whole bunch of, you know, indigenous Native American culture coming up.
We're just destroying what has been there representing them.
tim pool
They took away Aunt Jemima.
libby emmons
Yeah, I hate that.
jack posobiec
That's so offensive.
I remember on the side, I remember big rigs, you know, just on the highway, they used to always have like an Indian chief.
On the door, or on the hood, or something.
libby emmons
And the cigar store Indians.
jack posobiec
Yeah, it was just a symbol that you would see around.
It was never meant as, like, mocking.
It was just Americana.
hannah claire brimelow
But we destroyed it because we're, you know, progressive and we're good at understanding people.
jack posobiec
But we're not going to fix the reservation system.
unidentified
No.
libby emmons
And apparently it's less racist to erase Indian culture from American culture than it is to honor it and see it.
tim pool
Look at Lando Lakes.
They got rid of the Native American, but they kept the land.
libby emmons
And the crazy thing about that is it was a Native American guy who drew that picture.
jack posobiec
Meanwhile, Cousin Tease is now here to solve this problem.
libby emmons
He wasn't self-hating.
He drew it as a point of pride.
He loved it.
He was so proud of his drawing.
hannah claire brimelow
But he was brainwashed a little bit.
You don't understand because you were brainwashed too.
libby emmons
Classic post-millennial.
tim pool
Look, we need to figure out how to get this anti-Times Square speeding up.
I've got too many spinning plates.
And so with what we're doing with the coffee shop, I'm like, we want to have this strip in Martinsburg be all of these parallel economy businesses.
We got to figure out how to ramp that up.
unidentified
And I don't know.
Yeah.
libby emmons
Cause I want to come hang out.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
I'm like, we should have an angel studios movie theater.
You know, it's like, how do we wrangle all these cats and say, guys, like, let's prioritize this.
All the, all the marketing runoff is pure gold for everybody.
Like your businesses will succeed next to another business.
You know, I was telling Jeremy Love, Michael Knoll's a cigar shop.
hannah claire brimelow
I think you'd have to work with the companies that are already there, because there is a cigar shop in Martinsburg.
It's been around forever.
I think you'd have to get product there, you know what I mean?
tim pool
Right, because the one rule is you can't disrupt the generational businesses.
The generational businesses have to be reinforced.
So the people who are like third or fourth generation in Martinsburg should be succeeding and expanding.
That's the goal.
hannah claire brimelow
But it'd be cool if the one that's there is the only place in town you can buy Michael's cigars and drive traffic there.
unidentified
Exactly.
hannah claire brimelow
There are ways to partner with it, I think.
unidentified
That's right.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's a great idea.
tim pool
All right.
Shard Falcors Gaming says, cast brew instant Crosslands coffee crystals.
We're working on Graphene Dream.
That's Ian's signature blend.
jack posobiec
I miss Ian.
I miss him when I'm not here.
tim pool
He's gone.
He just ditched us.
jack posobiec
I miss Mrs. Musk.
hannah claire brimelow
Became a cloud of graphene and drifted away.
jack posobiec
I miss his aura.
His aura's still a little bit here.
libby emmons
We have a lot of little Ian toys over here.
tim pool
Little glass mushrooms.
libby emmons
Little glass mushrooms.
jack posobiec
Graphene is still here.
libby emmons
Little rocks.
There's graphene.
jack posobiec
Infused with Ian.
tim pool
He just keeps getting more and more rocks.
I mean, I gotta be honest, I bought him a lot of these rocks.
jack posobiec
What were you thinking?
tim pool
He likes rocks.
libby emmons
And so it's like... Here's the graphene.
jack posobiec
It would be good for the growing boy to give him.
tim pool
We go out and they're like, dude, a lot of stores sell rocks.
I'm not kidding.
libby emmons
My son used to collect rocks.
I don't know what happened to that collection.
jack posobiec
Especially in this area.
tim pool
You go to a gas station, they'll have bags of rocks.
A gift!
jack posobiec
That and soap, right?
tim pool
Right.
They like rocks out here.
The rocks are good.
jack posobiec
I mean, that's what built this entire community.
tim pool
Let's read this one.
DMZ Pro says, Hey Tim, are these late night shows like Kimmel really getting millions of views on their YouTube videos in a day, or could the numbers be sus?
Um, that's default.
That's normies.
And so the way it works is, when you go to YouTube, like, like, open a private tab and open up YouTube, and then guess what you're gonna see.
Congratulations.
So, I wouldn't say that people are enjoying the content, but people are certainly being force-fed it.
jack posobiec
It's like it's front-loaded.
tim pool
Yeah, and it's such BS because if you, like, this is proof of, in my opinion, narrative collusion with big tech.
I mean, there's a bunch of hard reasons, but come on.
You have, with Patrick Bet-David, with Steven Crowder, with Timcast IRL, insert any other organically grown podcast or show, And the math is simple.
If someone made a show from the ground up on their own without external support, it must be good.
If you are dumping millions into maintaining this show that is losing ratings, it must be bad.
So why then does YouTube put them on the front page?
jack posobiec
Well, and again, because if you remember that during the writer strike, all of them went off air and nobody noticed for a while.
libby emmons
Right.
jack posobiec
And then at one point they tried to launch like a joint... I forget what it was called.
Do you remember what it was called?
tim pool
Strike Force Five.
libby emmons
Strike Force... Stephen Colbert.
jack posobiec
Ridiculous name.
Yeah, it was all of these... Where they all came together just like this and it was awful and nobody watched it.
libby emmons
And they were saying how any revenue would go to the writers who weren't getting paid because they were on strike.
hannah claire brimelow
So I actually felt guilty and watched it a sympathy.
libby emmons
I did not watch it.
Not you, but maybe others did.
tim pool
I'm gonna say I think the views may be fake in some capacity or they're just like those websites where it says 25 photos of celebrities and you've never seen and then when you load it, there's 800 ads.
And then whenever you want to see the next photo, you got to click next.
That's probably what they're the kind of views they're getting.
jack posobiec
I get all my news from the Postmillennial, but after that I get all my news from those click pages.
I'm the guy who clicks on all of them.
libby emmons
I click on those too.
jack posobiec
I just sit and click those all day long.
tim pool
Here's a point I want to make.
When they can't drive any kind of real influence, then they don't matter at all.
Even if someone did watch, they're not having any impact on the individuals.
Shows like this are.
Patrick, Matt, David, Crowder, obviously.
These are shows that are actually influencing people.
And, uh, you know, we talked to, uh, I think Matt Gaetz brought this up.
He's like, man, it's so different.
You go on Fox News and no one ever brings it up.
You go on Timcast and everyone's like, oh, I saw you on Timcast.
Like, cause these shows are real people watching.
jack posobiec
It's also, and you know, this is a difference between active engaged viewership versus cable news, which is passive.
So cable news is a passive viewership because it's on, but it's on the background.
So, my parents aren't like this, but if you were over your parents' house for Thanksgiving
or your grandparents, you notice they just kind of always have a TV on
that's just in the house, and it's on and it's there,
and it's filling the background.
Yeah, it's like white noise.
And then you can kind of tell what side of the political aisle they're on
depending on what they're watching.
So if it's Fox or if it's CNN or it's MSNBC, like you're really in for it if it's there.
And so that doesn't mean though that they're sitting down and actively engaging
in what they're listening to.
And so, yeah, they might be on in whatever Nielsen X number of households, but that doesn't mean that, to Gates's point, okay, you're on in the household, but those households aren't necessarily paying attention.
Whereas a show like this, a show like Human Events, a show like War Room, you've got to search that out.
unidentified
Exactly.
jack posobiec
And so you're going to be actively listening to it.
This, of course, by the way, comes up a ton in Uh, podcast advertising where they say, okay, it may not be as many viewers or listeners as cable news, but they're more engaged, which means your conversion rate is going to be higher.
tim pool
Yep.
So that's, that's another big component is, uh, when people went and we see this with our own sales with Casper, it's the sales are way higher doing direct shout outs as opposed to buying ads.
jack posobiec
That's right.
tim pool
Let's read this.
When we got Ryan Kirchmeyer says, PBD had Chris Cuomo on.
He sounded a lot like you.
What happened?
And would you have him on?
Did Patrick bet David asking him about staging that fake, uh, COVID?
libby emmons
When he climbed out of his basement and said, I just came out of my basement, like right after he'd been at a party in the Hampton.
tim pool
No, he was at his house.
He was at his property.
libby emmons
Right.
But he had been at a party.
tim pool
He was at a party before that?
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
I knew that he was at, he was visiting.
libby emmons
Wasn't at a party?
jack posobiec
Well, he was seen out.
tim pool
He was seen on his property, which was under construction.
So I'd love to have him on.
And the first question is, why did you fake being in quarantine during COVID?
Were you told, like first question, then whatever he says, I, Direct an answer, and then I'd say, were you directed to do this by your superiors at CNN?
jack posobiec
Yeah.
tim pool
Maybe the guy would be like, yeah, we faked it.
They told me to.
I'd be like, wow.
So if he wants to come on the show, I'd love to have him on and be fantastic.
And that's the first question I have.
jack posobiec
I think he generally said something more along the lines of like, hey, there were a lot of things I did that I'm not proud of.
He didn't answer it.
No, he didn't ask the question directly, but there was like a general sense.
tim pool
Did PBD ask, why did you fake being under quarantine?
jack posobiec
I didn't see that.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I feel like we need more specific questions for this guy, otherwise he's gonna give a lot of skating on the edge and general answers.
jack posobiec
Right, so I get that he wants to be like, oh, I'm just a fair guy now, I'm not in the tank.
Okay, that's fine, but you need to actually come clean about all the things that you did.
hannah claire brimelow
But if he doesn't come clean, he gets enough sympathy and potentially he could go back in.
Because that's ultimately what he really wants.
jack posobiec
He has a show now, right?
That's 100% right.
hannah claire brimelow
Does he have a show?
libby emmons
He has a show on some channel.
jack posobiec
On NewsNation.
No, but her point is that if he doesn't attack CNN and they get new leadership, he can come back.
hannah claire brimelow
NewsNation is not the same thing.
He wants to go back.
tim pool
Well, let's read this.
We got Stronger Than Stone says, I respect you, Tim, but I really wish you would lay off the UFO stuff.
It's fine if you don't believe it, but please don't insult your fans that do.
If you took any of that as an insult to people who believe in UFOs, you have internalized that and you are, it's something inside you, man.
When did I say the UFOs weren't real?
jack posobiec
You said they were exploiting people.
tim pool
They release UFO information.
Real or fake.
No, I think I said it's real.
Like, a guy will see a UFO, and then they'll have a document, but it doesn't matter to them.
And then when the Hunter Biden stuff comes out, they'll release it.
So yeah, I believe these guys are seeing strange phenomena.
I wonder what they are.
hannah claire brimelow
My thing is that the Biden administration, rather than being like, we're gonna give this to you in honesty and transparency, this stuff that's going on that you guys have been raising questions about, they're using it to cover up their own scheme.
And that's what's cheapening the experience.
jack posobiec
Remember the Titanic submarine?
libby emmons
Yeah, that was a total cover-up.
jack posobiec
They did the Titanic submarine right when the Hunter Biden report was coming out, and they lied and said, remember the pinging?
Oh, we hear pinging!
Oh, you know, that's going on.
They knew from the start that they had gone.
libby emmons
They knew on Sunday, and they did this.
jack posobiec
They knew, and they lied to the family, they lied to the entire country.
Everybody was talking about it.
I think I may have been on TimCast during that.
That, I mean, it was a huge deal, and we were trying to figure out what was going on, were they trapped?
They knew the whole time.
hannah claire brimelow
Remember, they were like, at this point, they would have run out of oxygen.
jack posobiec
The Coast Guard was giving us updates.
Yeah, the media had like a countdown of the oxygen, and the Biden administration knew all along.
libby emmons
Because they had heard an explosion.
jack posobiec
And then James Cameron came out and started yelling at them.
He said, this is a cover-up operation.
libby emmons
Well, cause they had heard an explosion on Sunday and they reported to the Coast Guard.
It was like the Navy had heard an explosion.
They told the Coast Guard that they'd heard an explosion.
jack posobiec
I remember saying that because I said, look, given where it is in the water, we would have heard that if this thing exploded.
So me, you know, I wasn't willing to go there yet to say that the Coast Guard and the Navy would be in on it.
Right.
Even I, even I couldn't believe that our military and our Coast Guard All right, Logic Plank says, we need to start emailing advertisers who work with woke companies and ask them how they feel about working with Marxist terrorists.
tim pool
Incorrect.
That won't do anything.
You are in the bottom tier.
What would be effective, and I'm not advocating necessarily right now, Would be if you emailed companies and asked them why they were advertising on Disney.
Disney is fascist and supports the murder of Muslims.
And then Disney's gonna, you know, uh-oh.
A big brand is gonna be like, we don't want to be associated with Islamophobia.
Well, Disney thanked the security forces that are... I mean, the things they're doing to the Uyghur Muslims are nightmarish.
It's like...
I'm at a loss for words.
I mean, forced abortions?
Rape and murder?
I mean, these things are nightmarish.
And Disney thanked them.
jack posobiec
It's actually, it's demographic replacement is what they're trying to do.
tim pool
Oh yeah.
jack posobiec
And this is China's stated goal.
The CCP's stated goal in Xinjiang, which by the way, they were doing this to an extent and are doing this to an extent in Tibet as well, which the left used to understand.
Well, they call it sinicization.
But yeah, they're sending as many Han Chinese there.
They're making incentives, financial incentives.
So I've been to Xinjiang, I've been to Tibet.
Um, that you have, you were financially incentivized to go in there.
And even when I was there, uh, over a decade ago, you could tell that there were these huge areas of the city that were all for Han Chinese.
And it was all in Mandarin Chinese.
Um, you wouldn't see any Arabic anywhere.
You wouldn't see any of the Uyghur language.
And then you would go to other areas and it's like they became ghettos, ghettoized in their own cities.
And that was, that was over a decade ago.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
All right.
What do we got here?
Mary Everett says, so is my rumble stock finally going to stop falling?
I went big two years ago and lost half so far.
I have a decent amount of rumble stock.
Not, I say decent amount.
I don't think it's that much.
It's not like I got millions of shares or anything.
I have a very small amount.
When you buy stock in a new company that goes public, yeah, it goes down.
That's literally why they go public.
They're raising money.
So, if you believe in the company, buy the stock.
If you're trying to buy stock to gamble, I don't know, man, that sounds risky.
I don't want to give anybody any financial advice.
But it sounds to me like a bad idea to be like, I'm going to buy a bunch of stock and then hope I make a bunch of money off it.
I mean, maybe you'll get a few percentage gain.
I'm actually really confident in the growth of Rumble.
That's why I bought stock.
I'm like, man, in 5-10 years, this company is going to be massive.
These shares are going to be worth a lot of money.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
Other than that, just sit around and wait, I guess.
I don't know.
Do whatever you want.
Do what your financial advisor tells you to do.
Who was it?
All those athletes who did endorsements for Binance and FTX.
libby emmons
Right, and they all got sued and stuff.
tim pool
Because they were telling people to do it.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
That's why I'm always like, no financial advice!
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's like the one, no medical, no financial advice.
unidentified
That's a great story about that because everyone gave their endorsement, like everybody.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
They were paying fat stacks.
Paying fat stacks.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Let's see.
Where are we at?
Where are we at?
Paul Tascalo says, Theory Hunter testifies mid-December, puts on a show.
That morning, Joe Biden issues a pardon for himself and Hunter, resigns the presidency.
Kamala takes over.
Dems get their first black female president, freeing Newsom to run in 2024.
jack posobiec
Yeah, I mean, all of the permutations of that aren't going to work because Joe and Jill refuse to leave.
They're all trying to get them to leave and they just completely refuse.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, they won't give it up.
tim pool
Yep, yep.
Where are we at?
Loyal Snoop Doge says, less censorship and less advertising.
Elon is making Twitter great again.
Well, if everybody does sign up for that, you know, for Twitter Pro or whatever, what is it called under the blue check?
serge du preez
Blue.
tim pool
Twitter Blue.
There you go.
Pay for a product that you like and the company runs itself.
And then I love the idea that even if you don't want to pay, you can still use it and still read information and still post and do whatever you want.
I think Elon's got some pretty great ideas.
It's gonna be tough.
It's gonna be a challenge, but I hope he wins.
He's completely right about the advertisers.
Tell him to screw off.
In fact, he should, he said, everyone's going to know the companies that did this.
Well, replace the ads that they were supposed to buy with a message saying this company has pulled off ads boycotting the political opinions of people on this platform.
serge du preez
You know?
tim pool
You can get real hard with it, actually.
I think the reason why Media Matters went after Elon, I think this is actually fairly obvious.
Elon announced that from the river to the sea would be banned, that decolonize would be banned, and then immediately Media Matters goes after him, and if you look at the tweets from Media Matters employees, they are anti-Israel.
libby emmons
Yeah, they sure are.
tim pool
They went right after Elon because Elon was critical of Hamas and of the leftist protests.
jack posobiec
You saw there were even members of SPLC's union that signed on to straight-up pro-Hamas statements.
So that's why they're going after Elon.
And these are the people that lead to advertiser boycotts.
libby emmons
Exactly.
And these are the people who then, you know, a bunch of Democratic congressmen like Adam Schiff and Dan Goldman signed on to a letter to Twitter and to Elon Musk and Linda Yaccarino talking about how concerned they were about hate speech on the platform and what else.
And they were citing media matters.
It's like a pipeline.
hannah claire brimelow
Media matters gets treated like it's a reliable source and it's not.
tim pool
It's just- I feel like we haven't done this in a while.
jack posobiec
Spin commenced.
tim pool
It's going.
That's just what's happening.
jack posobiec
Imagine saying Tim Kool is anti-UFO when he's got one right next to him.
libby emmons
Yeah, it's pretty cool, too.
tim pool
All right, that's going pretty well.
All right, everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show, if you really do like it.
And on any of the shows, if you watch Pop Culture Crisis, sharing is it.
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And I've got a special announcement.
I don't know if announcement's the right word.
I have a statement to make that I would like you to hear.
hannah claire brimelow
A proclamation?
jack posobiec
Something you want to get off your chest.
tim pool
Something to be said.
jack posobiec
It's like a confession.
libby emmons
Ooh, it's bouncing now.
tim pool
Look at that.
jack posobiec
Tim is a UFO.
tim pool
But anyway, you can follow the show at TimCastIRL.
You can follow me personally at TimCast.
Jack, would you like to shout anything out?
jack posobiec
Yeah, humanevents.com.
Everybody needs to go there.
This is your best op-ed, foreign policy site that you can find.
Except, of course, for Hannah Clare, who needs to finish her Christmas order over at MyPillow.com.
hannah claire brimelow
A lot of pressure in this room tonight to order pillows.
jack posobiec
I haven't seen the deals.
hannah claire brimelow
You want me to be online shopping during our conversation?
That sounds rude.
jack posobiec
What do you think I'm doing over here?
hannah claire brimelow
Oh man, so he admits he's rude.
I'm sorry, can people find you on the internet at any social media sites or handles?
jack posobiec
No, no, I assure you completely.
I live the life of a hermit.
libby emmons
The people know.
hannah claire brimelow
The people know.
Well, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
I'm a writer for this cool news site called scnr.com, otherwise known as scanner.com.
I'm there with a ton of the people from, or all the people from, the TimCast News team, and I'm grateful to be a part of it.
They're working really hard on some cool stuff.
If you want to follow me personally, you can follow me on Instagram at hannahclaire.b, on Twitter at hcbrimlow.
You should follow at TimCastNews on all the social media platforms still.
You can see Scanner's work there, and of course Libby's with us again.
libby emmons
Thanks, Hannah.
I'm Libby Emmons.
hannah claire brimelow
That's a hate crime.
libby emmons
Oh my goodness.
hannah claire brimelow
You're fired.
libby emmons
Do you know, I know a lot of Hannahs.
And so am I the only Hannah Clare you know?
You're the only Hannah Clare that I know.
hannah claire brimelow
Libby's fired.
Tweet at Libby about how she doesn't know my name.
libby emmons
Oh my goodness.
That is so narcissistic of you to like, to want my name to be pronounced correctly.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm sorry that my name means something to me.
It means nothing to you.
Libby's destroying my identity one second at a time.
Okay.
libby emmons
All right.
Enough with the transphobic comments.
jack posobiec
Just come up with a nickname.
libby emmons
Right?
I'm going to work on that next.
Yeah.
I'll ask you to do it.
Anyway, I'm Libby Emmons.
You can find me at Libby Emmons on Twitter and you can check out all the great work we're doing at thepostmillennial.com and humanevents.com and you can subscribe at postmillennial.com slash subscribe.
serge du preez
And I am Surge.com.
It's good to have you back, Jack.
And, uh, it's promo code POSO, I think.
jack posobiec
Boom!
serge du preez
Yeah.
jack posobiec
Powerful promo code POSO.
There are no other promo codes.
tim pool
Jack probably sells like 10,000 pillows every time he comes on this show.
jack posobiec
You know, it's actually funny because when we look at the numbers, so Lindell was on the other day and he was like, he was like, it was like, oh yeah, Promo Code Tanya, that's your wife, right?
I was like, I was like, yeah, he's like, he's like, because, you know, I see those numbers come in and she's actually like, Mike, you don't need to, you don't need to continue.
And then Kyle Rittenhouse, because he's got his book, which by the way, so we've got the promo codes.
We do not get a cut from Kyle Rittenhouse for not doing that.
Phil would be right.
But he added on promo code Tanya as well, and he was like, yeah, she's actually got more than you.
Wow.
libby emmons
Well, Tanya is a delightful person.
tim pool
We're going to go to the Members Only Uncensored show.
So thanks for hanging out, everybody.
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