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Timcast IRL - Disney Boycott ERUPTS After Elon Musk Says F YOU To Ad Boycott W/Ryan Long
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ian crossland
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So now there are calls to boycott Disney.
tim pool
The mainstream media is picking it up and there are a bunch of photos popping up all
over X of people showing they've canceled their subscriptions to all of these companies
that announced advertiser boycotts on X.
After Elon Musk said, go F yourself, you will not blackmail me, essentially.
Many people joined in, and now there's big pushes for people to sign up for X Premium and to cancel their subscription to any one of these companies, stop servicing these companies, to boycott any company that played politics.
To put it simply, this is not just a company being like, well, we don't want to run ads on X anymore.
It's all of these companies at the same time teaming up with political activists to negatively impact a business that isn't taking the political stance they want.
This should get very, very interesting.
So we'll talk about that.
We've got the CEO of X doubling down and telling all of the staff, we believe in free speech and we won't back down from their position.
Awesome.
And then, of course, Donald Trump praising and thanking Black Lives Matter for their support, despite the fact it was just one guy.
But this is a funny story.
Now a lot of conservatives are saying he should not be thanking them.
And then, of course, we've got just Trump is gaining a ton of support in New York among black and Latino voters.
And there's on the ground interviews talking about this.
And where it gets interesting, he's actually got potential support now, not just from Michael Rapaport, but Chris Cuomo on the PBD podcast saying he's open to voting for Donald Trump.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
It's going to get really interesting.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more, we got Ryan Long and Danny Palaszczuk.
danny polishchuck
Yo!
ryan long
We'd actually planned to show up here in full blackface, but Tim actually censored us.
He doesn't want the viewers knowing that, so... Well, the issue was that half your face was red.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
tim pool
And I was like, what are you guys doing?
That's not funny.
ian crossland
That's because you scrubbed it off so hard.
tim pool
That kid got in trouble!
ryan long
The plan was if we do half him red, half me black, and then we sort of stand next to each other, Gauthier style, we will have the full effect.
tim pool
That was a fun music video.
Okay, so everyone figure out, you're comedians.
danny polishchuck
Yep, hello.
ryan long
Just non-stop with these guys.
I will say with the Elon Musk stuff, there is, you can even, I'm sure you've said no to an advertiser, but if you're a public company and you do that, it's illegal, right?
But being able to do that must have been sick, because you've probably said no to an advertiser and it does make you feel like quite the big man.
tim pool
Yeah.
I think it's simple to say it's illegal, but you're mostly true.
You have a fiduciary responsibility to make money and someone comes to you and offers you a bunch of money if you don't have a legitimate reason for rejecting it.
ryan long
Dude, you can't just run the company to the ground and be like, yeah, I'm just doing my thing.
It's like you'd be, at the very least, you'd be fired, like FCC violations.
So I guess that's the whole reason why you have a private company, is you're like, I can do whatever I want.
tim pool
So Elon can say, go off yourselves.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, he is.
ryan long
That's what I mean, as an individual podcaster, where you're like, I'm done with this ad because I didn't like, he's just doing that to the entire industry.
tim pool
Good.
Well, we'll talk about that more.
Thanks for hanging out, guys.
Should be a blast.
We got Hannah-Claire Brimelow hanging out.
hannah claire brimelow
Hey, I'm Hannah Clare.
I'm a writer for scnr.com, otherwise known as Scanner News.
I really like it there.
Ian's back.
ian crossland
Hello, everyone.
I'm back from Luke Rudkowski's castle in the mountains in Miami.
It was great, and it's good to be back.
Let's rock and roll.
serge du preez
Yeah, let's get it done, Tim.
tim pool
I just want to mention real quick, too.
Newsom's debating DeSantis tonight.
ian crossland
I want to see it.
tim pool
And, you know, it's gonna be at 9, and we're having this conver- like, I'm having this conversation before the show, like, do we- do we comment on it?
Like, do we- do we watch it?
hannah claire brimelow
And everyone just shrugs, like- Just ask the chat.
ian crossland
Why?
hannah claire brimelow
Are you a Newsomer?
ian crossland
I still don't get the point of it.
tim pool
Yeah, I mean, look, it is fair to say you've got red state versus blue state mentality, but I just feel like...
A lot of people are hyping it up because he's saying this is running for president.
But look, if Fox News announced they were going to have, you know, Politician A versus Politician B, and they're just totally irrelevant to the cycle, I'd just be like, well, okay, that's fine.
They do town halls all the time.
ian crossland
I'm down with what Hannah Clare said.
Maybe we could put a poll in there and see if the audience really wants it.
If it's like 75%, yes.
tim pool
It's a commitment, man, because it's an hour and a half long.
And it's like, if we want to actually watch it, It might be a major snoozefest.
hannah claire brimelow
Tim says it's a privately run podcast and he's going to make the decisions here.
ian crossland
I want to see if they're like laughing it up and it's like, oh, these guys get along or if it's super lame.
tim pool
We'll probably take a peek at it.
ryan long
They disagree on everything.
tim pool
But I feel like it's going to be a total snoozefest between two guys who don't matter to the presidential cycle.
Maybe Newsom runs.
danny polishchuck
Has there ever been something like it?
Like this where just two governors just debate each other?
tim pool
During a presidential cycle and one's a candidate and one's not?
It's weird.
ryan long
Is there a possible ability that you hear like a glass shattering sound and then Trump does come through from the rafters?
tim pool
Stone Cold Zone?
He jumps off the rafters and swings down.
ryan long
Orange paint just sprays on the audience.
tim pool
What was it, slimed?
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
tim pool
Well I don't know, so we'll see what happens later, but let's jump into the first story.
We got this from Newsweek.
Disney faces renewed boycott calls.
It's not just Disney, but I love how this made it to Newsweek.
They say, things are heating up for Disney, with the company facing fresh boycott calls, continuing on from its announcement that the brand was ceasing advertising with X, formerly Twitter, just days ago.
Several leading global brands, including Disney, announced they're boycotting X. Elon Musk then said, go F yourselves, and in response to this, We got a bunch of people on X posting photos of them cancelling their Disney Plus subscriptions.
Now, I just want to stress, I cancelled mine a long time ago after Disney Plus thanked the security forces in China who are running the Uyghur concentration camps where they force women to get abortions and...
Let's just say it is very, very brutal what they're doing to those people.
So I'm not too happy with what Disney's doing, and I don't want them to have my money.
But now it's piling up.
They're also calling for boycotts of all of these other companies.
So it'll be interesting.
Will X be able to survive just off of subscription memberships?
ryan long
I kind of feel like- How much is their ad revenue for- How much is their ad revenue a year?
danny polishchuck
I know Apple was a hundred million a year.
tim pool
Right, yeah.
ian crossland
That's a lot.
ryan long
Andrew Tate said he would do a mil.
Didn't you say you'd do so?
tim pool
He said he'd do a million a month.
danny polishchuck
Million a month to advertise X on X. I said a hundred K a month.
tim pool
I said a hundred K a month for three months.
ryan long
I think he said a mil, so we have another mil!
ian crossland
Confirmed!
They were doing 250,000 a month, but they doubled it to 500,000.
ryan long
So then you're talking about 50 mil a year after stuff like that, and it's probably closer to 30 mil a year, where it's like, I think a guy like him doesn't really care that much about that type of numbers.
ian crossland
I wonder what they're going to do.
I thought maybe that they would end up shuttering the centralized service and turn it into a decentralized protocol, because they've been talking a lot about using Nostr and he's been working with Jack Dorsey.
Who's that?
danny polishchuck
Elon.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Nostr is like, what was your question?
danny polishchuck
I was saying who's using, yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah, that they would, like, join the Fediverse and then make Twitter X more of a protocol that you would use, like a decentralized peer-to-peer communication system.
So, like, we'd all host it on our devices, and if, like, half of them go down, the system's still running on everybody else's device, which is important.
So it would cut the costs of servers.
And I don't know what their bulk costs are.
I know when he bought the company, he slashed a bunch of the employee count.
tim pool
This is actually a really good point.
This could be a clever play for Elon, where they finally get Twitter onto a decentralized system where no one could be banned ever again.
ryan long
He says it's not even up to us.
tim pool
Yeah, so if they go... I don't know if you're saying Noster?
ian crossland
Noster, yeah.
tim pool
Or what's the other one?
The Fediverse?
ian crossland
The Fediverse.
tim pool
So these are like protocols where anyone can plug into any other one, basically like the internet.
If Elon Musk says Twitter is now going to be open source and federated, that means you could be signed up for Gab and tell someone, oh, if you're, follow me, you know, ryan at gab.com, and then if someone's on X, they can type that in and follow you wherever they are.
So this would mean that X, Twitter, whatever, could no longer ban anybody.
unidentified
Wouldn't that be like destroying his investment, though?
tim pool
If the company is going to go under because the advertiser's cancelled?
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
tim pool
And then he's just like, well, the company's dead unless we open source and federate.
ryan long
Also, if you open source, you could put stuff in where if there is advertisement for every million dollars Disney pulls, another censorship person gets fired and just have that trigger set up and just be like, well, it's up to you.
It's not out of my control right now.
The thing's set up.
HR person goes for a hundred grand and a million dollars, we go a censorship person.
ian crossland
Oh, like smart contracts.
ryan long
Smart contract.
It just triggers firings according to how much money Disney pulls.
Sort of hold them hostage on that leverage.
ian crossland
I kind of get the vibe that this is the direction.
Not only would it be great for humanity to have a system like Twitter or X, whatever you want to call it, on the Fediverse.
I mean, that's the big deal.
You got Mines and Mastodon and things like that on the Fediverse.
Gab, you mentioned earlier.
But Elon has blatantly stated he's not in it for the money, and he never was.
He's in it for humanity and free speech and things like that.
danny polishchuck
I bet his investors are like, yeah, we're sick.
We're kind of in it for the money a bit, though.
hannah claire brimelow
The CEO had to come out with a statement being like, well, we really liked Elon's coloring comments.
unidentified
He has a lot of investors who are probably like, yeah.
danny polishchuck
Humanity.
ian crossland
But you could also run ads on a decentralized service.
There's no need that it would ever really even disrupt the ad revenue.
tim pool
And then actually he could come out and say we're going to decentralize the service, federate, which means we're not going to be responsible for any hate speech because it's out of our hands and we can still control advertising.
So we can make all the money with none of the downside.
That's a play right there.
hannah claire brimelow
Would it mean if you federated that the advertisements get seen by more people too?
ian crossland
Oh, that's an interesting concept.
tim pool
Probably not.
ian crossland
Federated advertising is a nice way to go in the future.
tim pool
It is, but he would have to, so basically the way that would work is, the idea of federated social media is, imagine if, like how the internet works, you can open a browser and go to any website.
You would be a member at, on X, and you could choose to follow any other federated account from any other website.
So let's say, you know, you're on X and someone's on Facebook, you could go onto X and follow someone's Facebook.
ian crossland
But the owners of X, if they're in the Federalist, could say, we want to blacklist all accounts from Facebook.com.
And then you can't see it through the Facebook node, but if you go to like, Mastodon, you can still see the Facebook node list.
They get to choose, whereas something like Nostr is way more open, and you can't stop anything.
tim pool
But you, I think it's fair that a service can say, we don't want to connect to this service, that's fine.
But if...
Elon was selling ads on X. They would not appear outside of X. But, if he federates, you could sign up for, I don't know, Truth Social.
If Truth Social federated, you could follow Trump on X from his Truth Social account.
So, like, it basically connects everything.
danny polishchuck
Does Truth Social have to allow it, though?
tim pool
Yes.
Oh, okay.
So, Truth, which I, isn't Truth Mastodon?
ian crossland
It was based on Mastodon, I know.
danny polishchuck
I can't imagine they're going to want you, though, because isn't that the whole reason that Trump's not tweeting, is because... Right, they want to make money.
They want to make money, and they're like, you can't go over to our competitors.
tim pool
The bigger question I have for you guys, because you guys make deeply, deeply offensive and shocking, edgy content is...
I mean, what do you think about these companies?
I mean, Disney recently announced that they're misaligned with the public.
ryan long
One of the problems with companies like Disney in general is sort of like Coke, where you go, even if someone goes, oh, I'm going to boycott that, and you go, just so you know, they own all the other 45 others.
It's impossible to even remember who they own and stuff like that.
Do they own this?
I bet you Coke does, or someone.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, probably.
ryan long
You know, you've seen the thing where it's like three companies own every single bed.
danny polishchuck
They own ESPN, they own... I mean, my main issue with Disney is I'm banned from all their parks for life, but... Tell that story!
Tell that story!
ryan long
Well, you're not... The bottom line is streaking is a nighttime activity.
danny polishchuck
No, uh, I don't know.
I don't really watch any Disney stuff.
Like, I'm not, like, into Star Wars.
Like, you guys watch, like, Star Wars?
Like, The Mandalorian?
I only watch it on and that stuff.
ian crossland
After episode one came out, I lost it.
ryan long
But they made, like, a ton of movies where you don't even realize that was a Disney film.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
I was done with Mandalorian when they fired Gina Carano.
I'm like, dude, if you... So, and that's the start of it.
But when they... So, I had a year membership.
And then, I bought the year in advance.
When the Uighur Muslim thing came out where they thanked the security forces, I'm like, yo, those people are like mercilessly torturing human beings, and we all know.
So I'm not- I'm done with this.
And then with Mandalorian, I mean, Gina Carano, that whole stuff, I was like, this company's garbage.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
The crazy thing is, like, their stock is not doing well, so you think that they actually would be like, yeah, we have to stop doing this stuff.
ryan long
But isn't that the whole reason that Bob Iger got brought back, is because he was gonna, you know, stop all this nonsense?
ian crossland
Yeah.
ryan long
I feel like that was the whole thing, is that Bob Iger, the other guy went in, right?
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
ryan long
That guy was tanking it, and then he sort of came back from the grave, being like, I'm taking the reins back.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, coming back, yeah.
ryan long
So I feel like, to some degree, he's being held hostage.
unidentified
He probably will put a kind of an end to some of this stuff, but obviously... But it's probably just ceremonial, right?
hannah claire brimelow
They're saying, oh, look, board members, we have brought Bob back, and so things will be okay.
He never actually committed to changing any ideology.
danny polishchuck
Well, I bet with the movie, like, because all their movies keep bombing, but, like, the thing is, like, those cycles is... those movies probably went into development Four years ago when probably at the time you go like, oh, yeah, this stuff is gonna be around forever.
We're gonna all this rah-rah stuff.
hannah claire brimelow
This is a great idea.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, this is a great idea right now and nobody's thinking.
ryan long
Everyone's gonna watch Marvel's 40 times.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, if it came out today would be a huge hit.
ryan long
And now I watched it 35 times.
danny polishchuck
And they probably their production schedule is like, yeah, this will be out like 2022 and then it gets pushed back two years or whatever a year and then people are like this sucks.
tim pool
I just want to point out It's owned by a private company, Spindrift, and its founder.
They have 105 employees, and he grew up on a farm in Massachusetts.
I think that's what they said.
ryan long
I think you dig a little further.
That guy's last name is Pepsi.
ian crossland
Yeah, they took a $29 million investment from MOLUS and company LLC in 2020.
tim pool
Spindrift did.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, that's another 20 million by VMG Partners.
ian crossland
So those are the two big companies.
tim pool
Where do I find that?
ian crossland
That was on Wikipedia history.
tim pool
Oh really?
ryan long
Yeah.
Subsidiary of a subsidiary.
danny polishchuck
I mean, they are a solid product.
tim pool
No, that's what they do.
That's what they do.
They like Starbucks.
I read this in the newspaper, so maybe it's not true, but my understanding is Starbucks will open a coffee shop
and call it like Mom and Pops.
And then you go there like, oh, I don't want to go to Starbucks.
And you're actually buying from Starbucks.
ryan long
Yeah, I got you.
Starbucks is my favorite one, how they play all this stuff, because a lot of times they'll do, you know, some super progressive thing about like refugees and then people get mad and then they replace it with veterans and they get mad and they replace it back with refugees.
They go back and forth between refugees and veterans trying to find the sweet spot.
ian crossland
So the company MOLUS and company LLC is a publicly traded multinational investment firm.
So there's very likely BlackRock, State Street and Vanguard are involved.
tim pool
Well, we gotta check.
unidentified
We gotta check.
ian crossland
20 minutes.
Yeah, we should.
We should check.
ryan long
No, enjoy your Black Rock beverage.
unidentified
Whatever you do.
ian crossland
They don't put money in everything.
ryan long
The smooth taste of Black Rock.
tim pool
I can... Wait, wait, let me try.
ian crossland
Oh, that's a good name for a drink.
tim pool
It tastes like a young millennial couple losing a bid on their first home.
ryan long
Yeah, yeah.
ian crossland
But let's let... I'll look into it while you guys are talking.
ryan long
Mine tastes like foreclosure.
hannah claire brimelow
That's my favorite flavor!
ryan long
That's so funny.
unidentified
Your cool hip beverage is owned by Vanguard?
Maybe.
tim pool
What about Liquid?
We got Liquid Death over here, too.
I hear they're based AF, perhaps?
ian crossland
I don't know.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, I think so.
I don't think they've gone public yet.
I think they're talking about going public, but I don't think they have.
tim pool
You guys want to know a secret?
ryan long
I heard that Liquid Death was partially owned by the Clinton Foundation.
tim pool
You guys want to know a secret?
ryan long
You pour them out and just put tap water in it and give it to your guests?
tim pool
No, no, it says death of plastic on those cans.
Look, I like Liquid Death, but there's plastic in those cans.
ryan long
Okay.
danny polishchuck
There's plastic in cans?
tim pool
All cans are lined with plastic.
danny polishchuck
Oh, they're lining.
unidentified
So, if you take- That's what everyone used to say to Pamela Anderson.
There's plastic in those cans.
tim pool
But if you take something that will eat away the metal, it leaves a plastic bag.
Yeah, and you'll see the drink in the plastic bag.
ryan long
Oh, the coating?
tim pool
Yeah, the whole inside is coated.
So we actually did it.
ryan long
That's the skin from the lizard, people.
tim pool
That's how they make your canned beverages.
danny polishchuck
Actually, this is disconcerting.
The sixth ingredient on here is adrenochrome.
unidentified
Nice.
tim pool
No, liquid death's actually pretty good.
serge du preez
Yeah, it's also like- I like it.
tim pool
Fairly base.
Low sugar.
unidentified
I like it.
serge du preez
Yeah, it's also like when- the reason you need to dispense plastics when it's in the sun.
So, keeping it out of the sun supposedly negates it.
That's what I've heard.
I don't know if that's true or not.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story.
Let's jump to this one.
We got this from Bloomberg.
Yacarino!
ryan long
Talking about the Pizzagate pizzeria.
danny polishchuck
Oh, no, no, no.
tim pool
Let's talk about this story.
Yaccarino's memo to ex-staff calls Musk candid and profound.
I love this.
Long story short, the CEO has doubled down.
When they announced that Linda Yaccarino was going to be the CEO, everybody thought, okay, here we go, WEF, you know, deep state, whatever.
She's going to start banning people.
Instead, when Elon Musk says, go F yourself, she puts out a statement being like, no, we stand by this and we believe in it and we will not be bullied into changing our position because people are trying to hold money from, take money from us.
Here's the best part.
I see these lefties on Twitter.
Mocking her for doing this, being like, ah, look at her, she's pushing this interview out more.
And I'm like, I think that's a great test to expose who the grifters are.
Because these leftists who are saying that, what they're telling us is that in their worldview, they're saying, why would you want to lose money?
Whereas Elon is saying, take all the money from me, I'm not backing down from what I believe is right.
So it shows you where we are, where they are.
Not everybody on the left, I'm just saying the ones that are saying that.
ryan long
You're saying that sort of this sentiment is like, well, you're screwing your career without any talk of do they actually think that?
tim pool
Yeah, so when I see these lefties be like, haha, why would you push this further?
They're basically saying, why would you announce an ideological position that would jeopardize your business?
And it's really funny because to me, I'm on the other side, I'm like, I absolutely will tell an advertiser to screw off if they try to do that.
hannah claire brimelow
I think Elon Musk doesn't do anything unless he sees a long-term gain, right?
So he wouldn't announce these positions publicly if he didn't think that they were worth it.
And I think that's the measure that culture is shifting.
I mean, even with Yaccarino, the thing that she got in trouble for was that she was saying, Twitter, we like free speech, but we will de-amplify hateful content.
And de-amplify was like a specific word about, you know, people get afraid of like being shadow banned or whatever.
And for her to have fallen in line with a more Musk-esque position is interesting.
It shifts within the company.
tim pool
Because he's the boss, but I don't think Elon's playing 5D chess.
I think he's just pissed, and he's the richest man in the world, so he can tell anybody he wants to eff off.
hannah claire brimelow
But if he's the richest man in the world, why does he care about this?
I mean, he could stay quiet and spend his money on who cares.
I think he would come out unless there was a specific gain for him.
tim pool
I absolutely disagree.
My point is Elon Musk clearly cares more about his ideological position than the money.
ryan long
I think he also cares about legacy, his own.
hannah claire brimelow
I completely agree.
tim pool
And so his position is, free speech matters, the woke mind virus is destructive, and I'm not going to sacrifice the world for a paycheck.
Especially, it's easy to say, when you're the richest guy on the planet.
hannah claire brimelow
But I don't think it has to be a paycheck, right?
Like, what is his long term?
This has gained him so much influence among conservative or moderate people.
Like, he could have been a silent billionaire just doing whatever he wanted with his cars and his a million children.
ryan long
He was never a silent billionaire.
He was loud and proud.
hannah claire brimelow
But he could have been if he wanted to.
He has chosen to continue to push on this path because he wants to be in the public eye.
tim pool
Which is an ideological position.
ryan long
There might be a counter to that, though.
Like, with Tesla, he was able to sell it because he was not a, you know, silent person.
hannah claire brimelow
I know.
It was the first time it worked for him.
ryan long
But that wouldn't exist if he wasn't loud, because he was loud and got everyone to invest in it.
hannah claire brimelow
I know.
He knows that having social influence is really important.
It is the ultimate social currency right now.
tim pool
In which case, he should have said, I'm sorry to the advertisers.
Unless he doesn't think it's a benefit.
Unless the ideological position is more important to him.
Yeah, he's consistent.
Elon clearly is a guy who cares about ideological issues.
hannah claire brimelow
My point is that I think he realizes the issues that he's promoting right now, and maybe he feels them personally, and I have no reason to doubt his authenticity, he realizes that it resonates with the American public in a way.
And the international public.
People feel like they are being manipulated by big corporations that don't represent their values, and then you have this guy saying, I'm going to be open and speak out about this.
tim pool
But that's not a financial incentive.
hannah claire brimelow
I never said it had to be financial.
ryan long
It might be a long-term financial incentive.
tim pool
I think it's social capital.
Yeah, well, I think it's ideological.
Look, the way he said, go F yourself, it's clearly an emotional reaction.
danny polishchuck
Oh yeah.
Especially when he said, he's like, you know, if X ceases to be a company, then you see that thing we said?
He's like, if, you know, if they break us and ruin us, then at least people will know who did it.
hannah claire brimelow
Like he said it in this really weird way where you're like... But if it wasn't, if it was planned, I'm not saying it was, does that make it less authentic?
unidentified
What was planned?
hannah claire brimelow
If he had gone on there being like, I know, I'm going to find a way to just say, go F yourself to the advertisers.
I don't think so.
ryan long
I do sort of agree with Tim that he does fly by the seat of his pants.
danny polishchuck
Oh, for sure.
ryan long
Big time.
At least it seems like it.
One thing you can say, though, about platforms where you can say, oh, who cares, they can just get any advertisement, that is the sign that a platform is sort of, you go, oh, this is sort of an off-the-beaten-path platform as you start seeing dick enlargement pills and all that sort of stuff.
So if you went on Twitter and it was all those kind of advertisers, it would take away from its legitimacy as a town square.
tim pool
But it is a lot of Cheech and Chong.
Have you seen Cheech and Chong?
danny polishchuck
I've never seen that.
ryan long
I am 90% Cheech.
danny polishchuck
Honestly, I see people say this all the time.
They go, my whole thing is Cheech and Chong.
And all I see is that doctor with the gooey thing.
You see that one?
It has like 200 million impressions.
It must be spending millions.
hannah claire brimelow
What is he selling?
danny polishchuck
I don't know!
I click on the website.
Honestly, I think he's just saying that it's good to use like MCT oil or stuff.
ryan long
I don't know what you're talking about.
tim pool
Is that the one where he says don't put cream in your coffee?
ryan long
Yes!
danny polishchuck
And then I'm like, and then I went on the website to try, but like every one of their ads has literally 100 million impressions.
They're spending so much money.
And I specifically, I'm like, all right, let's see what this does.
Just because I want to know and I couldn't even figure out what to talk about.
tim pool
Yeah, I watched this video for like 10 minutes and I'm like, okay, well, that was a fun podcast, I guess.
What is this?
danny polishchuck
What's your product?
tim pool
Yeah.
danny polishchuck
I don't know.
tim pool
Okay, cool.
ian crossland
Oh, for the record, I cannot confirm at all that BlackRock has any money in Spintrap.
I can't anywhere.
It's been stressing you out a little bit.
It's been for about 10 minutes.
Yeah, thanks.
tim pool
But that guy was saying, you're right, he's like, you want to have, you want to have, no, I think he was saying MCT was bad, wasn't he?
danny polishchuck
I don't know!
unidentified
I can't figure it out. He said coconut is good. I mean coconut. I don't know
danny polishchuck
Coconut lobby. He's just It's like some doctor who has tons of money, but like I can't
tell what he even sells but they're spending so much money on it
ian crossland
I think the problem they're going through we went through this at mines is that these investors come in with huge
amounts of money and They say I want X amount of impressions over this much time
and then they put it all the money in so it goes to the front and keeps getting recycled and it's like
Really bad for the platform because you don't want people to get saturated with the same ad over and over again
danny polishchuck
Yeah, I guess that's happening because you guys all see the same ads and I see the same ads, but they're different
unidentified
I haven't seen either one of these ads. Oh, okay. Chong is out there man. That guy's got the deepest pocket in
tim pool
Hollywood What are they advertising? What is the?
ryan long
He's just advertising I'll turn on my style
He's not saying like any specific brand.
He doesn't have a choice.
tim pool
I gotta say though.
ryan long
He's just saying spark him up, man.
tim pool
Instagram ads, infinitely better than than X. I'm not trying to be a dick.
I like X. But I go on Instagram.
And it's like they have they have shirts that you would wear.
It's because it's like pictures of me wearing the shirt.
Oh, you're wearing the shirts.
ryan long
Dude, they get me too.
Instagram is pretty good at that.
You're just like a shirt that you were just imagining in your mind.
hannah claire brimelow
I think it's because they have the shop feature now that they were able to more seriously refine their data.
ryan long
Yeah, if you buy one thing, you should get that.
hannah claire brimelow
They know what you like immediately.
ian crossland
They might have a deal with Amazon.
They could have deals, like Zuckerberg is a psychology, he did a psychology major in college, I'm pretty sure.
They're obsessed with tracking you and getting all your metrics.
danny polishchuck
Oh yeah, they're tracking you a lot of places all over the internet.
ian crossland
And it shows in the ads, they're successful, but like at what cost?
hannah claire brimelow
Well, Facebook was like, in their terms of service, if you opened Facebook on any tab, they could read every other tab you had opened, even in different windows.
ryan long
Which is like, Facebook, it starts drizzling out, they're pitching you umbrellas like they are on it.
tim pool
Yo, crazy story is that we went to, I went to a Walmart once, this is like five years ago, and we are walking down the middle of one of the aisles, and they had one of those things set up in the middle of the aisle, which was a bunch of TVs, and it said special, on sale, $3.97, TVs, and I was like, I didn't think twice, I was like, oh, okay, you know, maybe we get one of these, and then we leave.
I go home, sit down at my computer, and there's an ad for that exact photo.
ryan long
That happens a lot.
tim pool
And I was like, on the sidebar, and I was like, wait, what?
Like, it wasn't just a photo at a Walmart.
It may have been, but it was identical to the- like, the aisles were the same.
I was like, it may actually be that Walmart has a crew member take a photo.
ryan long
Or they hear your words, that's the other part.
Like, I'll just say it, and I'll see penis reduction pills, and I was just talking about this.
tim pool
Probably the GPS on the phone.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's possible Yeah.
I don't know if they do this, but imagine it's a very smart thing to do.
Walmart says, hey, this morning, team lead, take a picture of your TVs because we're doing an ad campaign.
Okay.
And then take a picture, upload it.
And then the Walmart team on Facebook has regional advertisements with those photos.
So when my phone aligns with the GPS, Facebook serves me the ad for that region at that Walmart of the photo of the exact TVs I was looking at.
ian crossland
In marketing, they want to show you the same ad eight times to get you to buy it.
There's a number.
I think it's eight.
Could be a different number at this point.
And so what they'll do, probably, is they're tracking what ads are at what stores.
And if you go to that store by GPS, then they want to serve you that ad again and get you to buy that thing.
Insidious.
I mean, you call it insidious.
It's really dirty if people don't know what's happening to them.
tim pool
Bro, it's crazy how... Yo, you guys want to hear something crazy?
ian crossland
Yeah.
ryan long
So when we went and got- The ninth time they showed you that thong.
tim pool
Yeah, I just had to buy it.
I was like, I was like, I can't stop!
And I just hit the button and- It is true.
No, so we went to, I went to Tijuana to get medical treatment because I was having hip problems.
And so we did this whole thing at the Cellular Performance Institute, got stem cells.
And they said, one of the things you can't do is you can't do ice, ice, uh, uh, uh, what are they called?
Ice baths or whatever?
danny polishchuck
Ice bath, yeah.
tim pool
Is that what it's called?
ryan long
You can't?
tim pool
For three months, because it kills the stem cells.
ryan long
For three months.
tim pool
And no saunas, take it easy, start exercising slowly, and I'm like, okay, cool, no problem.
ryan long
How are you gonna F life?
tim pool
But yo, as soon as the three months were up, guess what Instagram sent me an ad for?
An ice bath.
Oh no.
danny polishchuck
Like exactly at the three month mark?
tim pool
Not exactly, like within like a week of it.
And I'm like, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
hannah claire brimelow
Because you have to account for delivery.
tim pool
I've never done this stuff.
I've never done an ice bath.
I've never done any of that ice skate.
And all of a sudden I'm getting ads for it.
And I'm like, I didn't even Google search this.
ryan long
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
I bought it.
It's automatic.
danny polishchuck
It chills the water.
tim pool
You go on your phone, you press the button, it chills the water and spinning it around and then once you're done working out, you dive in.
And I ended up buying it.
ryan long
You got an ice bath?
tim pool
It's on its way.
ryan long
Oh nice!
ian crossland
I don't understand, dude!
ryan long
They got me!
tim pool
I don't know, man.
Maybe it's... You know what it is?
It's probably not as crazy as you think.
I follow Joe Rogan.
ian crossland
Yeah, for sure.
tim pool
You follow probably so many... And then they're like, everybody who follows these guys has heard about this and they're probably gonna buy it if we send it to them.
It's that simple.
ian crossland
And Luke goes nuts and gets one in his house.
ryan long
They're also putting you in upper echelon of money.
They're not sending everyone, like, here, buy this $5,000 ice bath that's getting served to very few people.
tim pool
For real.
It can hot tub and ice bath.
It's got a pump that you can, like, with an app, set the temperature.
ryan long
You know what you're on.
You're on the sucker list.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
They're like the whale category.
These morons will spend anything.
ryan long
Yeah, definitely.
tim pool
They got me though.
ian crossland
They're gonna change our lives.
tim pool
That UFO?
That's crazy.
That levitating UFO right there?
ryan long
All these knick-knacks shit that you bought just because you got an ad?
tim pool
I can't stop, I need help!
hannah claire brimelow
You did get a bunch of swords or something, right?
Of course, swords.
I remember you being like, I got this Instagram ad and now I have it.
ryan long
You're the grandmother buying the 9-11 coins.
tim pool
Well, I got a bunch of those, what do you mean?
No, I don't have any of those.
I do have a bunch of like- Signature Trump coins.
Signature Trump coins, and they have like the American flag on the back.
No, I have the Canadian ones.
I like the maple leaves.
ryan long
Really?
danny polishchuck
Oh, the actual gold- Yeah.
tim pool
The gold like- No, not gold, silver.
unidentified
Silver, yeah.
tim pool
And I always get the Canadian ones because there's something just awfully cute about a country being like, look at our maple leaf, you know?
It's like- Yeah.
It's the most inoffensive and like- That's how we get you, man.
danny polishchuck
It's true.
That's why you buy our silver.
ryan long
That's right.
They were just talking about trying to unload some silver on suckers.
tim pool
Imagine a bunch of gangs are showing up to a street fight and one guy's like, I got a falcon!
Another guy's like, I have a spear!
unidentified
And then Ken is like, we've got some maple leaves!
tim pool
What are you doing?
That's why I love it!
ryan long
We throw them at you, and it blinds them, and then what?
Well, that's kind of, uh, we haven't thought of the rest yet.
tim pool
No, what people don't get is that as soon as the fight starts, they drop the maple leaf, and they're holding maple syrup, and they throw it in your eyes.
danny polishchuck
It's extra thick stuff.
ian crossland
That's where it all came from.
ryan long
Maple syrup in the eyes there, bud!
tim pool
Hold on, this is true.
There's maple taffy.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, yeah, of course.
tim pool
Yeah, so there's a bunch of things you do.
I went to a maple farm recently, so I learned this.
Nice!
If you dry out the maple syrup a lot, you get a paste.
You get like a goo, like taffy, and it's like sticky and... Yeah, it's a big thing.
danny polishchuck
You go to the sugar bush, and then they tap the trees or whatever, and they like put it on the snow.
tim pool
Yes, right!
danny polishchuck
It's great.
It's a Canadian tradition.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, of course.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story.
We have a tweet from Patrick Bet David.
It's a redemption arc for Chris Cuomo.
Patrick Bette David tweets, Chris Cuomo trending for being open to the idea of voting for Trump.
People are losing their minds over this.
And he is certainly correct.
Let's play the clip.
It's about two minutes long.
We'll play a little bit of it.
chris cuomo
If it's Biden-Trump, look, for me, again, we survived a Trump administration.
Would we survive another one?
Yes.
unidentified
Yes.
chris cuomo
I don't think there's any greater risk to America with him than with Biden.
And for people who are now going to attack me and say, what are you talking about?
Trump is like this crazy man.
Well, look.
You know, as Patrick says, the data is the data.
Nobody was trying to kill us when Trump was president in a way that they're not now.
If anything, there's more hostility and you can have reasons for that any way you want.
I'm just saying, existentially, I'm not afraid of a Trump presidency.
Existentially, I'm not afraid of another Biden presidency because, unlike many people in America, I believe That the country is much stronger than any individual leader.
We survived the Russia thing.
We survived January 6th.
We survived having Biden as a gaffe machine.
We survived Congress going after each other and doing nothing for the rest of us.
We survived these things.
Are we better for it?
No.
Should we be doing things differently?
Yes.
I think it happens.
I don't know when.
I don't even know why.
But, you know, in terms of who I'm going to vote for, I would really have to see where we are at that moment in time.
unidentified
So you're open to a Trump vote?
chris cuomo
I am always open.
And I'll tell you this, people say, oh bullshit, you've never voted for a Republican in your life.
Wrong.
And not only.
tim pool
We get it, we get it.
He's trying his redemption arc.
ryan long
At first I was afraid.
He just breaks into the Chris Cuomo musical.
danny polishchuck
That's the official death of the Cuomo sexual tattoo right there.
Anybody who has one, they watch this and go, alright I was on the fence but I'm getting that thing lasered off.
tim pool
All those shirts, I kind of want to buy one now.
danny polishchuck
Like LeBron when he went to the heat and everybody's burning their Cuomo sexual shirts.
tim pool
Cuomo sexual.
ryan long
That stinks for being a homosexual right now.
danny polishchuck
You suffered through Andrew, now Chris is forsaking you?
tim pool
Yeah, what is it, Chris, or Andrew wants to be governor again or something?
danny polishchuck
Yeah, I think he maybe wants to be mayor of New York City.
tim pool
You guys are still in New York, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Is it because you have something wrong with you?
ryan long
They all, those guys all kind of like, they lose one election and by the end of it they're just like
campaigning to be like a condo board president.
The library board.
tim pool
What do you guys think? New York?
ryan long
New York's one of the sickest cities in the world.
tim pool
You're right, it is sick.
It's awful.
You think Chris Cuomo is just trying to find his redemption arc?
ryan long
He's already been doing that.
danny polishchuck
He's making $10 million a year at CNN.
I'm sure he's trying to like some sort of paycheck.
ryan long
And he's also like podcasting now.
He realizes this, you know, his just like whatever the mainstream thinks I think is not going to work anymore.
So he's trying to show that he has nuance.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
It's quite the opposite.
He's the whatever the mainstream thinks I will say.
That's what he was.
No, no, no.
And now that he's going into the podcast space, when he's actually dealing with real people,
the independent voter base is two to one Trump over Biden.
So all he's doing is adapting to the environment he's in now.
He's doing the exact same thing he's done.
unidentified
Well, that's what I just said.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
And no one ever challenged him on CNN.
tim pool
But it's, but my, my, my.
ryan long
I'm saying if he was still at CNN, he wouldn't be saying this.
tim pool
That's my point.
Right, I agree, I agree.
My point was simply, the podcast world is the mainstream, and he's simply doing the same thing.
He's just towing the line for whatever the popular narrative is.
ryan long
I would even say it's maybe less so just mainstream, not mainstream.
It's like, if you're going to be doing these three-hour interviews with all different sorts of people, you have to sort of show that you have some nuance, and he wants people to see him as a reasonable guy and listen to his podcast.
That's how I see it.
tim pool
People have asked me if I would have him on and I'm like, yeah, I'd love to the first question is why did you fake being in quarantine?
ian crossland
Yeah, that's when you watch that video him coming up out of his basement be like, oh I never left the house and then people are like, but we saw him outside But in his son is watching him lie and just his son's face is just so much disrespect Listen, listen.
tim pool
Cuomo will never come on this show again.
ian crossland
I think he will.
He for sure will.
tim pool
Because the first question is, why did you fake being in quarantine?
ryan long
Well, maybe not after you said all this stuff.
danny polishchuck
Now that you said it, he's got tons of time, man.
tim pool
And then I'm absolutely going to say it.
And the second question is, do you think your children are worse off for having watched you lie on television that way?
ian crossland
No, I think they're better.
Well, that's a good question.
But I think that his kid might be a big part of the reason why he's not doing it anymore.
tim pool
I get people saying, oh Tim, when you insult these people now they won't come on your show.
I'm like, oh, like, okay, too bad.
What this dude did was contributing to psychotic authoritarian,
just government fascistic Nazi guards.
ian crossland
I think people are breaking out of the empire, like they're shattering their allegiance to the empire, and by that I mean like the dark empire of Star Wars, and they're coming to, and they're definitely willing to be like, yo, maybe this rebellion ain't so bad.
tim pool
I just think he'd go back.
hannah claire brimelow
I think CNN could offer him a second.
danny polishchuck
He's from a huge political family.
He, in his mind, he's like, yeah, you lie because it's for the greater good.
hannah claire brimelow
And he's in New York, that's where all of his connections are, they're all probably still attached to CNN.
It's not only his life, religion, and social circle, it's how he values himself.
So he might do this right now, but if CNN was like, we'll cut you a quarter of the check we gave you, he'd be like, okay, sounds good.
ryan long
I think he would go back and be the weatherman if they gave him that check, literally.
tim pool
If he really did want to come on the show, knowing I will ask him all these questions, I would respect that.
100%.
Yeah.
danny polishchuck
I mean, I think if he's going- I haven't seen the whole Patrick Bet David, but if he went on there for three hours, I can't imagine he was getting- Patrick Bet David does not do the kid gloves treatment.
tim pool
Agreed.
unidentified
Agreed.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
tim pool
And that's kind of wild to me because I feel like Patrick Bet David actually goes harder than I do.
danny polishchuck
He does, yeah.
tim pool
Like when he brought out the boots for Ron DeSantis.
ryan long
Like, wow, dude.
tim pool
Like, Patrick McDavid is awesome.
That was amazing.
I would never do that.
It's like, I don't know if I have the balls to pull out a pair of boots and be like, put them on, Ron.
danny polishchuck
You know what I mean?
hannah claire brimelow
I can't accept gifts.
I can't accept gifts.
tim pool
I'm willing to ask the question, but I don't know about actually, like, put them on.
danny polishchuck
Patrick McDavid's literally like, all right, we're going back to back.
Shoes off right now.
ryan long
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Push-up competition.
danny polishchuck
Let's settle this.
unidentified
Yeah, he's big.
ian crossland
That was awesome.
He's real big and muscular.
He's got that vibe.
Like, I'm a soldier.
He was a soldier.
tim pool
Yeah, dude.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Great show, by the way.
Man.
ian crossland
Yeah, you've been on his show.
tim pool
Several times.
It's amazing.
He's a good dude.
And I really respect and appreciate how he brings these people on, bringing on Wiener, bringing on Cuomo.
ian crossland
That was a great episode with Wiener.
Did you guys see Wiener bring him?
tim pool
No freebies.
No freebies.
He calls him out.
So I respect it.
ian crossland
I tend to think like I'm my own worst enemy and that if I do talk crap about people before I even give them a chance that I'm ruining my own pathway, my own career.
So I err on the side of, hey, Maybe Chris is down to jam man.
Let's let's talk about the weird stuff.
Let's talk about what life was like at CNN and make a better career.
hannah claire brimelow
He'd be an interesting guest to talk about like what was life at CNN because obviously we have a lot of strong opinions about it and the mainstream media generally, but I think it would be.
You know it would be unlikely that he would come on again because I think so much of it is tied to I eventually want to end up back in the hive.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
ryan long
It is possible though it's the other way where he actually hated what his job was for the last four years where it was like here's what you got to do.
danny polishchuck
He got paid so much.
ryan long
It is possible that like behind closed doors he was going home and he's like I gotta say this freaking garbage at work like he might have not liked that.
hannah claire brimelow
That would have been cool and if he could come on and tell us that I would like it a lot.
tim pool
Yeah, I accept that.
Like, we talk about Bud Light and how we want to be mad at Bud Light for sponsoring Dylan Mulvaney, but now that they're sponsoring UFC, you know, credit to Sean Strickland who pointed out, they're now backing the opinions of all these MMA fighters who are based.
Now it's kind of like, okay, I think we got to give Bud Light a little bit because we don't get the apology we want, but them backing UFC, they're gonna be putting money behind the words of all these MMA fighters.
That's a big victory.
ryan long
Yeah, I was sort of saying this even before we started, but I'm a fairly forgiving person for that kind of stuff.
Like, I don't hold the opinion that if someone screwed up or said something I don't like or whatever, you know, that forever you're just like, that guy's off limits.
tim pool
You gotta give them a path to redemption.
So if we say to Bud Light, no matter what you do, we will never buy your product, then they're gonna say, okay, well, at least we can capture a small market if we go back the other direction towards the left.
If we say, you know what, Bud Light, you sponsored UFC, so we're actually gonna start buying again, then they're gonna be like, sponsor more of this stuff.
And that means they're gonna put more money into people we do like and opinions we do like.
ryan long
I guess you're talking about the actual basis of, you know, voting with your dollars.
tim pool
Exactly.
So we want these companies to sponsor things we like and stop doing things we don't like.
So when Disney makes a whole bunch of weird woke movies and they fail, we don't got to do anything.
We just don't have to watch their crap because we don't like it.
They get the message and they put out to their investors like, hey, we're doing something wrong.
hannah claire brimelow
So with Bud Light, does that mean that you would only buy Bud Light at like a UFC event?
Because I assume they separate their grocery sales, right?
tim pool
I will buy a Bud Light.
The next time we get a UFC fighter with the Bud Light symbol, and he says something, and then Bud Light just accepts it.
Because what I'm worried about is, Sean Strickland will come out at a press conference for like a championship fight or whatever he's fighting next, and he's gonna say, here are my thoughts on politics, X, Y, Z, A, B, C, and then Bud Light goes, we do not support these opinions and we reject this.
Then I'm gonna be like, okay, that's the test.
If the guy says it, and people go, Bud Light, why are you sponsoring this?
And Bud Light ignores it, I'll buy Bud Light.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
I think they will.
I think they've probably decided that they know this is going to happen and probably that's the rehabilitation is by saying like, yep, we sponsor the UFC.
tim pool
We don't sponsor the individuals.
We're just here for UFC.
The fighters can say what they want.
I'll be like, I'll take it.
danny polishchuck
I mean, you hope they would have learned their lesson.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
You might call it an A-B test.
Get it?
Anheuser-Busch?
It's such a lame joke.
tim pool
You made a good point a while ago, Ian.
danny polishchuck
You said that- You lost the confidence.
ian crossland
I said it too late.
tim pool
Ian made a point a while ago that sometimes you'll work with evil people to do good.
And he's completely correct.
The motivations of the Anheuser-Busch people may be absolutely nefarious.
In fact, let's bring it back to Cuomo.
Cuomo may be a lying, manipulative piece of garbage who is going on PBD and trying to lie to people to win favor.
And you know what?
Doesn't mean I trust him, but when he's saying he's open to voting for Trump, and now there's a lot of people who are gonna be like, you know what, I'm willing to listen now.
ryan long
You think he saw Rappaport getting all the press for it, and he's like, yeah, I can feel it, I'm getting some news stories here.
tim pool
He may be an evil guy, but if what he's doing contributes to good, I'm not going to condemn him for doing something that's beneficial.
ian crossland
Yeah, people have, a lot of people have been roped up in this system, this corporate fascist system, and it's understandable, there's a lot of money, you get famous, you can give your kids good healthy food, they can grow up smart, but You know, it is nice to see people cracking out of it.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't know if I trust him, but I think he said something good.
So okay, alright, take it, you know.
Even if he's just open to it.
Yeah.
What we see with like him and Rapaport, awesome.
ryan long
I just bet you a guy like him, it's like, you break down all this stuff, he's not crazy ideologically, I bet this is just a guy.
hannah claire brimelow
I think it's good for his, like, fans to see him say this stuff.
unidentified
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
Because people who thought he was, you know, the pizza scene of good times.
danny polishchuck
The diehards are probably pretty upset.
tim pool
No, he's giving him an out.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
tim pool
He's giving him an out.
So now these people are going to be like, well, you know, I always listen to Cuomo.
He made a really good point.
So now I think I kind of get it.
It's like, as long as there is someone in the mainstream who's prominent and well off saying it, people will feel safe to be like, oh, don't look at me.
I mean, Chris Cuomo is the guy.
I mean, I'm just some dude who listens to the news.
He's the one who said it.
They're feeling like it's safe now to come out and say these things.
Yeah.
So I'll take it, right?
ryan long
Yeah, there's a lot of people that have come out in the last two years have been like, bring back Trump.
I mean, all of the Palestine stuff turned everyone against Biden.
tim pool
Wild, dude.
They went to the Rockefeller Christmas tree lighting and they're chanting burn it down.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
tim pool
It's like, dude.
You don't take Christmas away from people.
Like, the conservatives went nuts over the war on Christmas.
They were angry over happy holidays.
You want to send a bunch of people screaming, burn it down, to a giant Christmas tree?
hannah claire brimelow
And it caught on fire last year, so it's too soon.
danny polishchuck
That's true, yeah.
That's your point.
If you want to say a good thing about New York, though, because you're saying New York's so crappy, but the good thing is sometimes you'll be on Twitter and you'll be like, oh, they're like rioting, and it's like two blocks away, you can just go check it out.
tim pool
That's a good thing.
ian crossland
Yeah.
ryan long
It's fun.
It's topsy-turvy world right now.
You're about to see Sean King in a mega hat at the top of climbing the Christmas tree.
tim pool
So with the Israel-Palestine stuff, yeah, it's getting weird.
ryan long
Buddy, I saw Jonathan Greenblatt doing an interview.
He was calling people snowflakes.
tim pool
Well, you've got Media Matters attacking the Anti-Defamation League, because the ADL was like, ah, Elon's alright, because he's banning from the River to the Sea, and then Media Matters is like, Israel is bad, how dare you, ADL, what are you doing?
And I'm like, Media Matters and the Anti-Defamation League are at odds with each other right now?
This is wild.
ryan long
Love to see it!
unidentified
Love it.
ryan long
Trump, who's railed against Black Lives Matter for years, now says he'd be very honored to have its support.
That's actually phrased rather poorly.
right now. He was like doing a Bill Maher monologue. It was crazy. Let's jump to this
tim pool
story. We got this from Business Insider. Trump, who's railed against Black Lives
Matter for years, now says he'd be very honored to have its support. That's
actually phrased rather poorly. He actually said, thank you for your support.
And so basically you've got this former BLM Black Lives Matter leader who said
the Democratic Party is not for us.
He says he's for... We got this guy.
Fisher, introduced by Fox as a co-founder of Black Lives Matter Rhode Island, said, personally, I love the man.
I mean, how could you not like a real man?
How could you not relate to someone like that?
Trump then wrote on Truth Social that he had spoken with Fisher, who he called a great guy, and says he's very honored to have his and BLM's support.
Trump said, before claiming to have done more for black people than any other president, Lincoln?
And off disputed remark he's regularly made in the last few years.
Now we've got, let me see if I have this one, it's from Matt Walsh.
Here we go.
Matt Walsh took the Trump BLM situation.
In no situation should Trump be thanking a Marxist terrorist organization.
If DeSantis thanked BLM, Trump fans would never stop talking about it, ever.
Says when honest people hear Republican thanking BLM, they should be asking questions about what the person really stands for.
Completely disagree.
Trump is smart.
It was the smart play.
Black Lives Matter did not endorse Trump.
Trump is trying to make people think they did, because he's trying to PR-manipulate people.
ryan long
Yeah, he's sort of saying, black guys love me, yeah.
tim pool
Exactly.
ryan long
It's also sort of misleading in general.
You know how there's the bunch of the different libertarian parties, and then there's a couple of them that are just like super, like, say, way wilder stuff?
unidentified
Yeah.
ryan long
And then people always kind of...
You know, they'll be like, oh, the Libertarian Party's out of control, but it'll be like a small part of it.
This is the same thing.
This is the one BLM chapter saying they like Trump.
The other one's posting hate gliders.
tim pool
But it's one guy.
It's one guy.
ryan long
Yeah, they're posting hate gliders.
That's what I mean.
They have a million different chapters.
tim pool
Trump knows the media.
This is how he gets it.
Because what's going to happen is some suburban wife is going to be sitting with the other wine moms, and one's going to go, did you hear Black Lives Matter endorsed Trump?
What was that?
ryan long
Because we endorsed Trump.
tim pool
Well, it's going to open the door for people to be like, I guess Trump's not that bad.
ryan long
Well, they have their shelf with BLM and Trump with his face crossed out, and they're just like, huh?
It puts us in a bit of a bind.
tim pool
And to Matt Walsh's point that if DeSantis thanked BLM, he'd get roasted, maybe, but I don't think by most people.
And this shows exactly why DeSantis has been struggling with it, because DeSantis doesn't understand.
The DeSantis campaign doesn't get people.
Donald Trump thanking BLM?
I'm like, wow, Trump's winning.
If Ron DeSantis did the same thing, like someone from BLM endorsed Ron DeSantis and he said thank you, I'd be like, very good.
Very good of him to embrace those who are supporting him.
The fact that they view it that way.
It explains exactly why DeSantis' campaign has been slightly undone.
ryan long
Yeah, I think there's a part of it to make an omelette, you gotta break a few eggs, and in this case, Matt Walsh being mad he used the egg, you know what I mean?
And DeSantis would be afraid to break any of those eggs.
hannah claire brimelow
DeSantis is not going to AmFest.
tim pool
And so, uh, this was something, uh, Jack was talking about this last night, right?
unidentified
Pretty sure.
Oh, man, I wonder what... It was a conversation, and it ended.
tim pool
Yeah, they invited him, and then he's like, I'm not gonna come.
And it's like, you're trying to win a primary.
Why aren't you coming to this massive event with all of these people?
I mean, Tucker Carlson's gonna be there.
Like, basically, everybody's gonna be there.
It's an opportunity.
If he showed up, we'd all shake his hand and be like, you're the best governor in the country.
We love your work.
Instead, he's like, I'm not gonna do it.
It's wild.
ryan long
I gotta prepare for my debate with some guy that's not even running.
tim pool
Yep.
Crazy.
danny polishchuck
I got a session with my cobbler.
Those things are long.
tim pool
Well, uh, apparently the rumor is he bought inserts.
He bought, when he's like, they're off the rack Lucchese boots.
Yes.
And so were your inserts off the rack from, you know, from some other store.
You jammed them in there.
But dude, come on.
The guy's wearing high heels, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's crazy.
There's sabotage.
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe that's why he can't go to MFES, because Charlie Kirk is also 100 feet tall.
So if he stands next to him, it'll look kind of off.
ryan long
That's not the craziest theory, though.
danny polishchuck
You can't live like that, though.
hannah claire brimelow
You can't just live like that for the rest of your life.
unidentified
Tell that to Tom Cruise and Vin Diesel and Mark Wahlberg, man.
ryan long
Find a picture of that guy beside Nick Cage where he's not an Applebox.
hannah claire brimelow
That's why I think DeSantis won't come on this show, because Tim is fairly tall, I'm 5'9".
tim pool
Yeah, but PBD's tall, and he actually pulled the boots and slammed them on the desk.
danny polishchuck
He becomes the president, and he goes, hey, we need like a 15-16 scale Oval Office.
We just need to make it slightly smaller.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, they put the panel on the front of the desk in the Oval Office to hide the wheelchair, so it's not the craziest thing we've ever done.
tim pool
Oh, that's when they added the panel?
To hide the wheelchair!
hannah claire brimelow
Because if you look at pictures of Kennedy, there's a famous picture of his son playing under the desk.
You can see it.
tim pool
But that's because that's actually a different desk.
The original desk, it has that secret compartment with the writing in it.
So you can track down the Declaration of Independence or the treasure or whatever.
What was the treasure in that movie anyway?
ian crossland
I never saw it.
National treasure?
tim pool
Yeah.
Talk about, like, the greatest movie series of all time.
ian crossland
You know what?
If we can convince Ron to go to AmFest and do a skit about the boots that's really funny, and then he'll just be a rock star.
unidentified
That's it.
tim pool
No, he can't because Rob's the way.
ryan long
Listen, that might not go the way he thinks.
He's like, dude, you guys all saw my boot sketch!
tim pool
He can't do it because the boots are real.
ian crossland
Are you sure though?
Oh, come on, dude.
But Wikipedia says he's anywhere from 5'5 to 5'11.
unidentified
I heard he's on actual stilts in interviews.
ryan long
There's a smaller Ron DeSantis.
tim pool
There's that video of him on stage where you can clearly see his foot.
The front of the shoe is bent up.
There's no foot in there.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
So come on.
There are way too many news stories breaking down various photos.
And they actually even talked to cobblers who are like, oh, yeah, those are lifts.
No question.
ian crossland
Says he's 5'8 to 5'11.
hannah claire brimelow
Publics have never been interviewed this much in their lives.
ryan long
Dude, he was walking home from the club holding them in his hand.
tim pool
But so the point is, if it was not true, he could do a sketch and it would be hilarious.
He'd show up, and then he'd choke with the boots on.
ryan long
It wouldn't be a sensitive issue.
ian crossland
Well, I guess this is the make or break moment.
tim pool
It's not a skit.
ian crossland
I'm assuming it's not.
tim pool
He would be exposing that he's wearing high heels if he does the skit.
ryan long
He did really sign him up to wear those high heels for the rest of his life.
He's gonna die in those now.
danny polishchuck
Be incredible though if he debates Trump and then Trump shows up in his own heels just to further it.
You really are small, huh?
tim pool
Right, so, you know, the point of the heels is basically to make him appear taller against other candidates.
So if Trump wore, like, four-inch lifts, he'd make him look really short.
unidentified
And he'd be like, I'm wearing the same boots as Ronnie over here, little Ronnie, call him.
hannah claire brimelow
I've gotten so much content out of Ron Sanderson's lifts.
ryan long
Whoever put him in those lifts, it was the worst movie ever made.
hannah claire brimelow
I could not have imagined this would be one of the major political talking points going into this year.
tim pool
Oh, I could, come on.
ryan long
Because no one even cared if it showed.
hannah claire brimelow
I had no idea how tall Ron Sanderson was.
tim pool
The Howard Dean woohoo.
There's a whole bunch of wacky political moments.
hannah claire brimelow
But you couldn't have predicted the lifts.
I mean, come on.
unidentified
That's just so funny.
tim pool
Oh, no, no, no.
I know.
The fact that there's a weird moment where some candidate did something goofy, that's like, that's what happens.
Like Mitt Romney and the dog or whatever.
ryan long
I mean, we talked about Trump's hand size for four years.
Things do get overanalyzed.
tim pool
That's so weird that his hands, they made up that thing about his hands.
It's just like...
Does that work for people who don't like Trump?
ian crossland
They did it for Napoleon.
They said he was short.
They used different measurements.
tim pool
Well, no, that's because the Imperial Guards are tall.
And so people would often compare him in paintings to tall Imperial Guards and be like, oh, he must have been short, and he wasn't.
hannah claire brimelow
And now we just talk about King Charles' hands.
unidentified
Right.
ian crossland
Like the English would say he was short.
danny polishchuck
Those are crazy hands.
Those are something going on there.
unidentified
Yeah, I think those are weird Sasha's hands.
ryan long
Get into small places on the island.
tim pool
Someone comes to me and they're like, Donald Trump wants to fire a bunch of people.
He wants to secure our borders, bring back manufacturing, end foreign wars.
And I'm like, oh, okay.
And then the left goes, Drumpf?
You mean with little hands?
And I'm like, I don't understand.
Is that an argument?
I don't get it.
danny polishchuck
It was to them.
That was very clever.
hannah claire brimelow
Is this why they have those plastic little hands that people used to wear?
I used to see those on TikTok all the time.
Yeah, yeah.
Did he accidentally make something cool by himself?
tim pool
Trump hands?
ian crossland
Does it turn out he has just big hands or normal hands or something?
danny polishchuck
He probably has normal hands and someone took a shot at his hands and then he gets super defensive about stuff like he'll so he goes I got normal hands totally like and then he makes a whole thing I don't know and then most normal and probably SNL was like did a couple sketches about the hands and then Just the hands become a thing.
ryan long
I just Well, no one's talking about the hands now with the boots and the equation.
tim pool
Guys, in a few minutes, the debate with DeSantis and Newsom is gonna start, and I just, I honestly, I cannot care.
You know, I, I, I, part of me is like, there's this news thing happening, and like, maybe we should check it out, and I'm just like... Pants lifts.
But nothing matters.
danny polishchuck
The only thing that matters is something about the boots comes out.
ian crossland
The reality is, oh, you think, you think that they're not gonna push Gavin Newsom to become the nominee?
unidentified
They are.
ian crossland
I think they are.
So that's what this is, is like, take a look at Newsom.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, like just seeing how he pulls against the Santas.
ian crossland
This is like, they're both down, they're crouched, they're about, the gunshot has gone off and then they just take off running and this is it.
This is the moment when the run just starts.
danny polishchuck
And this is airing on Fox only?
unidentified
I guess so.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, because it's Sean Spicer's show and then he just agreed to host it.
danny polishchuck
Sean Spicer has a show on Fox now?
hannah claire brimelow
They're trying to appeal- No, Hannity.
danny polishchuck
Oh, Hannity.
ian crossland
So they're trying to appeal Newsom to the right wing now.
unidentified
They want the conservatives to see- Yeah, Newsom's a good gaslighter.
danny polishchuck
What's Fox up to with this?
ryan long
Honestly, if you find yourself listening to Newsom, he can convince people of things, man.
He is a good speaker.
ian crossland
So what's going to happen?
Because Biden doesn't want to step down.
ryan long
If you listen to Newsom for an hour, you're like, maybe California is crushing it.
tim pool
As you're walking down the street, stepping, you've got human crap all over your legs.
ian crossland
We've got to watch it.
Cause the way that California and Florida handled COVID is so diametrically opposed.
danny polishchuck
Who even cares about that anymore?
tim pool
I know.
I'm just, I'm not, look.
unidentified
There's like World War 3 is about to break out.
tim pool
It's like two guys are going to debate whether or not you should mow your lawn.
I'm like, okay, I don't know.
ian crossland
I'll tell you why we should watch it because our consciousness is affecting reality in real time.
It's like when you watch a basketball game, your perception is altering those players.
And we can alter that debate.
danny polishchuck
I don't think so, Ian.
ian crossland
Oh, you can.
I watched the Cavs come back from a 3-1 deficit and win the championship.
unidentified
And you watched the Cavs' Cavs come back?
ian crossland
There's videos on YouTube of me willing it.
It's real.
unidentified
Don't you think there was someone else willing the Golden State?
ian crossland
Not as powerful as me, apparently.
I was willing LeBron.
Like, he's from my hometown, Akron.
danny polishchuck
Oh, you're from Akron?
ian crossland
Yeah, Cuyahoga Falls.
And I shouted his name in a video and it echoed through the room in this wild way.
tim pool
Well, that proves it.
ian crossland
There's some deep manifestation going on.
And then they just picked it up.
danny polishchuck
I bet there was some guy who had like, you know, 20 G's on the calves who was manifesting it way more than you were, but... Listen, the only one who benefits from this debate is Newsom.
tim pool
I don't care to benefit Newsom.
They're trying to swap him in.
They want to replace Biden with Newsom, so Newsom should not get any...
Credits?
ian crossland
In any way.
tim pool
He's irrelevant, he doesn't matter, and I don't care what he has to say.
ian crossland
What happens if Biden won't step down?
Does the DNC just go behind Biden's back at the last minute and say it's Newsom?
tim pool
Yep.
It's too late for Newsom to get on any primaries.
Several of the primaries.
Which means he can't win unless the DNC just hereby decrees.
And they can.
They can say, nah, we're making Newsom the nominee regardless, there's no primary process, have a nice day.
So, what we don't want, this debate with DeSantis, this is why I think DeSantis- Are they literally allowed to force him out?
It's a private organization, they can do whatever they want.
ian crossland
The DNC gets to pick their candidate.
tim pool
The DNC is private.
danny polishchuck
It's insane.
tim pool
Yeah, they choose.
But it's not insane, it's like- It's weird.
danny polishchuck
Even as an incumbent though, I mean?
tim pool
Yes.
So ask me this question, can Tim Cass fire whoever- can I fire whoever I want?
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
tim pool
Yes.
danny polishchuck
Can you fire someone right now?
Yes.
Like, will you?
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
Stop talking.
danny polishchuck
They don't have to be here!
tim pool
Go to the DNC, a private organization, and be like, can you nominate whoever you want?
Well, of course.
Your votes don't matter.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
ian crossland
But the RNC can't.
Correct?
tim pool
Yeah, the RNC is a private organization too.
ian crossland
I thought for some reason in like 2016, Bernie was the favorite, but the DNC was like, yeah, but we're making Hillary the nominee.
But for whatever reason, the Republicans couldn't do that to Trump.
tim pool
It's because they're trying to have some semblance of, you're involved.
Because if they just outright say no to the people, then everyone knows that there's no real elections.
So actually, the Democrats wanted Trump to be the nominee.
The Republicans were like, I think we're going to lose this one anyway, so what can we do?
ian crossland
And then Trump won.
tim pool
But now look at what they're trying to do.
The entire establishment is trying to get Trump out.
The fact that they went behind Trump... You mean Biden?
ian crossland
Get Biden out?
tim pool
No, Trump!
They're trying to get Trump out.
That's why DeSantis is debating Newsom.
It's giving legitimacy to Newsom.
It is absolutely the stupidest thing in the world that these guys would be debating.
Even all the corporate press, they're like, it's a very unusual event to happen.
ryan long
It's not working, whatever they're trying to do.
tim pool
No, it's not.
danny polishchuck
No, it's very bizarre.
ian crossland
I can't tell from the chat if anyone even cares.
tim pool
Let me say this.
My conspiracy theory, and Jack was saying something similar, a Trump DeSantis ticket would have been unbeatable.
Yep.
Until DeSantis decided to lead the great American comeback and put on high heels.
ian crossland
I won't let you down.
tim pool
Put on high heels, sent his surrogates to attack all of the moderate base and Trump supporters, sabotaging whatever career DeSantis could have had, and now Trump's going for Ben Carson?
ryan long
It kind of was a guy that doesn't understand the internet that much, trying to run like a crazy internet smear campaign.
tim pool
Or it was a guy who knew it really well and said we're gonna sink DeSantis and make sure he can never win again.
ryan long
Oh, you're saying it's the other way around, where this was a smear job on him?
tim pool
Well, Ron DeSantis was, in 2022, he was leading Trump 2-1.
All of a sudden, now, DeSantis is an afterthought who's mocked, and a guy who was known for wearing high heels.
How do you go from being the best governor in America, who is the frontrunner for the GOP, to all of a sudden being laughed at and mocked?
ryan long
I think some of it's the culture changed in a way that didn't favor his sensibilities, which is just kind of looking at Twitter for what people want to hear, as opposed to having, like, a vision for what's next.
tim pool
Perhaps, but he could have not engaged in, like, his surrogates could have perhaps not attacked people on Twitter?
Like, he could have fired them the moment they did?
ryan long
That's the part where I'm saying this is a guy that doesn't understand internet culture enough.
tim pool
That's a fair point.
No matter how many times... He has, you have the advisors, I mean...
ryan long
You have the advisors being like, no, trust me.
This is what we do.
And he's like, okay.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, there's something very like American, like almost like Rocky esque about Trump kind of having his next shot.
Like he's got this rubber match right now to kind of, you know, last chance to basically be president again.
ian crossland
A way of like, don't get it wrong versus get it right.
And Trump's a get it right kind of guy.
Whereas DeSantis is being concerned about getting it wrong, it seems like.
It feels like he's like, doesn't want to make a mistake.
Whereas Trump's like, I'm just going to do the right thing.
ryan long
It's like old school politics almost.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let's craft a narrative.
But the internet's so transparent.
danny polishchuck
I think people thought for a minute, they go, ah, it's nice and peaceful that like Trump's gone.
He's not like taking up all this bandwidth.
And then I think people were like, Nah, we kind of missed that, actually.
tim pool
I want to clarify, too, because someone super chatted.
When Ian said that Democrats can just choose and Republicans can't, what that refers to is a technicality.
Democrats have superdelegates who are appointed and can just vote, and Republicans don't.
But ultimately, these are private organizations that choose how they run and who runs and how they do it, and they could just do whatever they want.
ian crossland
But once they choose and everything's in order, the Democrats, at the very last second, all you can elect with the Democrats is not your candidate.
You elect superdelegates to go pick the candidate for you.
tim pool
Which can be anybody. No, no, no, no, no.
You elect delegates.
Superde- okay. No.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
tim pool
Do delegates elect the superde- No, no, no, no.
ian crossland
Go for it.
tim pool
There's delegates and superdelegates.
When you vote, you're electing delegates.
Superdelegates are people like Hillary Clinton who just get to vote.
They represent no one but themselves.
ian crossland
And can they override the delegates?
Yes.
tim pool
That is so- Well, they don't override. They vote for what they want.
So, if you vote in your Democrat-run thing, your delegate goes and says,
I'm gonna vote for Bernie.
And then Hillary walks out and goes, Nah, I vote for me.
And it's like, okay, well, there you go, your vote's been nullified.
ian crossland
Do the superdelegates outnumber the regular delegates?
tim pool
I don't think so.
But I'm not entirely sure.
But it doesn't really matter.
Because there's enough superdelegates to overturn what the popular vote in the DNC would be.
ian crossland
It's so messed up.
The RNC doesn't have superdelegates.
It's so crazy that the DNC has superdelegates that have, like, ultimate authority of choosing the candidate.
tim pool
Yeah, but it's because they're communists.
ian crossland
Yeah, it feels like that.
It's so messed up.
Like, come on, God.
Wait, if you're a Democrat in the Democratic Party, you gotta get rid of those superdelegates.
danny polishchuck
Well, the fact that... Probably set up so that you just can't.
tim pool
The fact that they're private entities that can basically do whatever they want is bad enough.
People don't realize you don't have public elections.
ryan long
Yeah, I need to get rid of those.
Afuera!
tim pool
Afuera!
ian crossland
When's he coming on the show?
tim pool
I know, right?
Let's get him down.
That guy's great.
danny polishchuck
Does he speak English well?
tim pool
I don't know.
We'll have to learn Spanish for him.
ian crossland
Not yet.
He'll be learning it on the fast track the next two years.
danny polishchuck
He's just from New York.
tim pool
Was he really?
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh man, that guy's great.
danny polishchuck
This is the first trip he made.
tim pool
All you need to do is send me one video of him saying afuera and ripping out government institutions and I'm like, I don't know anything about this guy but he's awesome.
ian crossland
That's Javier Millet, the president of Argentina.
President-elect?
Is he officially in now or is he still the elected president-elect?
hannah claire brimelow
He's still president-elect.
I think they haven't had the inauguration yet.
ian crossland
I'm so excited.
Things like that.
ryan long
Get that guy inside of Disney, man.
Department of Women.
Off we go!
ian crossland
That gives me hope that this simulation is sorting itself out.
That people like that get into power.
ryan long
Department of Adam Sandler movies.
Okay, we'll leave that one up.
danny polishchuck
Department of Diversity.
ryan long
Off we go!
tim pool
Nothing wrong with the Sandman.
He's like, afuera!
And then he slaps one up and it's like Adam Sandler movies.
ryan long
He's getting two bureaucratic organizations.
tim pool
Adam Sandler is just, what do you say, he has like ten Netflix movies every year or some ridiculous thing?
ryan long
Oh buddy, he's making films!
hannah claire brimelow
He just made one with one of his kids too, right?
Like, now he's sweeping the whole family.
ryan long
Yeah, some Bar Mitzvah movie or something.
Under the radar.
You never see it.
You just go, you'll be like, hey, what were the 10 biggest movies?
You're like, what's that?
And you go, Sandler film.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
But here's the thing about the 10 biggest movies.
When we would talk about the 10 biggest movies 20 years ago, it's like, oh, of course, you know, like, oh, Lord of the Rings came out.
Everybody knows that was big.
Oh, Harry Potter.
Now it's like, what are the 10 biggest movies?
ryan long
Jack and Jill nine.
tim pool
You're like Jack and Jill nine.
And it's like, how many, how many people watched it?
A hundred thousand.
ryan long
No, no, no.
It's more like, uh... Well, it's more, but you don't know.
100 million.
tim pool
100 million?
No, I don't know.
ryan long
They started figuring out streaming numbers.
danny polishchuck
Well, no, Netflix still is.
That's a total black box.
ryan long
The thing is... Can we get a fact check on how many people watch Sandler movies?
tim pool
Do you really think that 20 million people watch Big Bang Theory?
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
Big Bang Theory?
tim pool
So the numbers Big Bang Theory had back when it was on was like 20 million on CBS.
ryan long
So I'm one.
tim pool
I don't buy it.
danny polishchuck
How many people voted for Joe Biden?
tim pool
84 million or something?
So here's the thing.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, 20 million people watch Big Bang Theory, I think.
tim pool
Fair.
But here's the issue with Joe Biden.
Joe Biden did not get 85 million votes.
85 million people voted against Donald Trump.
25% of that maybe were like, I think Joe Biden's good for some reason, it probably exists.
But really, it's like people just saying, I don't like Trump.
The enthusiasm for Biden was like 25%, but the enthusiasm against Trump was like 96%.
hannah claire brimelow
I've voted for him seven or eight times.
Okay, as of December 1st, 2023, Adam Sandler's movies have grossed an estimated $2.4 billion at the global box office.
ryan long
No, no, no, but is that all- What's the opposite of a four day?
tim pool
Wait, wait, wait.
Is that of all time?
hannah claire brimelow
I think so.
danny polishchuck
His movies don't make any box office money anymore.
hannah claire brimelow
His highest grossed movie of all time is Hotel Transylvania with a worldwide gross of $1.37 billion.
ryan long
He made a deal at Netflix to make 85 movies.
tim pool
But is Hotel Transylvania an Adam Sandler movie or is it a movie he stars in?
ryan long
I think he's EP on it.
danny polishchuck
Probably like Happy Madison.
tim pool
But that's an animated kids film.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, it is.
tim pool
So of course it's making a lot of money.
hannah claire brimelow
It's just kind of funny I didn't think about this.
Here's the point.
That he's constantly making money.
tim pool
No, no, no, stop.
Adam Sandler is fantastic.
There's no question.
ryan long
I'm not even saying that.
I'm just saying he's like low-key in the shadows doing insane numbers.
tim pool
But this is my point.
In today's day and age, when we're talking about the biggest shows, The numbers are just- That's correct.
Shattered.
ryan long
Especially the ones that win all the awards.
Like, you know, you'll be like, oh, this was like a big, uh, critics pick and it was like 150,000 viewers.
unidentified
Yeah.
Right.
tim pool
So when, when he makes a movie for Netflix and it's like the top 10 movies on Netflix, like, yeah, but what did it get?
Like 300,000?
People watch Netflix though.
ian crossland
Are they pushing it to the top?
Does Netflix have a contract with them where they're like, you're going to make nine movies and we're going to put them all on the front page?
danny polishchuck
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
He has the CEO of Netflix's kid hostage in his basement, and he says it's like they actually do on Netflix on the platform Netflix is like this is we give him I think it's I think he gets 20 million a movie or something like 50 whatever he gets 20 million like after a production cost but like they do huge numbers on Netflix where they go this is like a no-brainer.
ian crossland
That's like a cost that they're paying him that they're not actually paying him.
Featuring his movie is like That's marketing.
danny polishchuck
No, those are Netflix exclusive movies.
They're not anywhere else.
Those are like the movies that they make in-house.
They signed a deal with them just like Netflix has all the Dave Chappelle specials.
ryan long
And they film them around his vacation schedule.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, it's like for him to go hang out with the boys and then they bring a- He brings the boys down to a new beach and does a beach movie.
tim pool
Let me ask him questions, alright?
How many of you have seen Extraction 2?
danny polishchuck
Never heard of it.
hannah claire brimelow
I only watched the first one.
unidentified
Nobody?
tim pool
Okay.
How many of you have seen Pain Hustlers?
ryan long
Yeah, I saw Pain Hustlers.
tim pool
Did you really?
ryan long
I think so.
tim pool
You just saw it?
serge du preez
Did you see it?
ryan long
No, I didn't see Pain Hustlers.
I've heard of it.
tim pool
How many of you have seen The Deepest Breath?
danny polishchuck
No.
I literally haven't heard of one.
tim pool
Okay, nobody?
How about The Mother?
unidentified
Nobody?
tim pool
Okay, let's move on.
How about Nowhere?
Nope.
unidentified
Alright.
tim pool
A Man Called Otto?
danny polishchuck
I've heard of that.
That's... Naya?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Okay.
Race to the Summit?
Nobody?
Okay.
Plane?
How about Jawan?
danny polishchuck
I know Jawan a man.
tim pool
Okay, so those are the top ten films based on...
It is what you know that says it is the top 10 films of the of the year or whatever 23 But this is best not the most according to viewers according to viewers.
ryan long
So what is though?
tim pool
Streaming out next movie fans can still get access some of the best releases.
Uh, yeah Facebook group rated these my point is I know Oh yeah, you can't fail with a Facebook.
danny polishchuck
But the thing is, Netflix does not divulge these numbers.
tim pool
So often, you'll see on the top of Netflix, it'll be like number 6, and it'll be like top.
My point is, there's a Facebook fan group, maybe it's not the best metric, we can check others.
ryan long
We didn't even hear others against Adam Sandler.
danny polishchuck
Nobody even knows these movies.
None of them.
I mean, the biggest show on Netflix I'm pretty sure is Suits.
Like, for whatever reason, they just started throwing up suits on the front page of a show that hasn't been on for the longest time, and then they were like, yeah, it's done, like, you know, 4,000 billion, like, minutes of watch time or whatever, and it just suddenly became the biggest show.
hannah claire brimelow
They're, like, buying successful IP, right?
danny polishchuck
I think they have a license for it, and then they're just Let's try this.
I mean, some people watch it. They're just like YouTube.
ian crossland
They want to keep you on the platform.
tim pool
Let's try this.
ryan long
I'll tell you, if any of those films are getting huge numbers, then my Rumble numbers are real.
tim pool
Statista says, most popular English language Netflix movies of all time as of October 23.
Red Notice. Heard of it, haven't seen it. This makes more sense.
Don't Look Up, saw it.
Adam Project, saw it.
danny polishchuck
Bird Box, saw it.
tim pool
The Grey Men did not see it.
We Can Be Heroes, no.
The Mother, no.
Glass Onion, saw it.
But I saw that in theaters.
Extraction, Extraction 2, I did not see it.
So, uh... Where's Hubie Halloween?
No, but this one actually makes a bit more sense.
So, have you guys seen any of these movies?
ryan long
I think I might have seen one of the Extractions.
I'd have to see the cover.
Is it Liam Neeson?
tim pool
But they're claiming here, too, that, like, Don't Look Up got 171 million views.
I don't believe that.
ryan long
That's the numbers that I was kind of talking about, more in line with that.
ian crossland
I guess it's possible though.
tim pool
How many subscribers do they have?
danny polishchuck
They have worldwide, I want to say they have 500 million.
ryan long
I've seen some charts, they were saying the top movies were 250, 300 mil-ish.
They have 247 million paid subscribers worldwide.
unidentified
And if they put it on the front page every time... So, yeah, there's no way, like, almost every Netflix subscriber watches that movie?
No.
danny polishchuck
I didn't watch it.
tim pool
Red Nose?
ian crossland
How long do you have to watch it for it to be a view?
danny polishchuck
That's what I'm saying, what's a view?
unidentified
Like, six seconds, and then you cancel off, and they're like... Don't forget, there's nine people on each Netflix account.
danny polishchuck
That's true.
tim pool
So, I'll let you guys... I'll tell you guys this, too.
For those that don't know, I think you guys probably do.
You mentioned your Rumble views being real, or whatever that point is.
So, companies love to make their numbers look bigger in any way possible.
So what they'll do is, they'll repost the same thing 12 times on every platform, and then basically people who scroll the feed hit it, and they can turn one viewer into 10.
ian crossland
Yeah, autoplay.
danny polishchuck
Twitter with the impressions, obviously.
ryan long
One of my favorite things ever- I agree with you that you've got to take all these numbers with a huge grain of salt, yeah.
tim pool
One of my favorite things ever was, I was in a meeting with a media CEO, and he was talking to a journalist.
And he's talking about the success of their company.
He's got the YouTube pulled up on the TV and he says, listen, we've got 10 million subscribers and on the screen it says three.
And the journalist is like, wow.
unidentified
And I was like, you gotta be kidding me.
tim pool
But so here's the trick.
You create a channel, get a bunch of subscribers, then you create a new channel and tell everyone to subscribe, then you get 100,000.
Then you create a new channel, everyone subscribe, 100,000.
You keep doing that, and you're turning one subscriber into 10, and then you can go and say, we have 10 million subscribers.
That's a clever move that they all do.
ian crossland
They're not unique, though.
Unique views is a very different thing.
tim pool
Nobody asks.
danny polishchuck
It's like fractional reserve banking, but for views.
tim pool
That's right.
ian crossland
Fractional reserve viewing.
danny polishchuck
Fractional reserve viewing, I don't know.
tim pool
We have this big news, kind of been saving it for the end, but let's talk about this.
Texas AG Paxton is suing Pfizer for attempted censorship and misrepresenting COVID-19 vaccination.
You know, this is wild.
Of course, we always start these videos by saying, don't take medical advice from strangers and make sure you talk to a doctor about what's right for you.
But according to Attorney General Ken Paxton, Pfizer misrepresented the efficacy of the vaccines.
The lawsuit alleges that Pfizer gave the impression its vaccine would end the COVID-19 pandemic, and that the company's claims of its shot being 95% effective were misleading.
More than 366 million doses of Pfizer's original coronavirus vaccine were administered, etc.
etc.
We get all that.
He says the facts are clear.
Pfizer did not tell the truth about their COVID-19 vaccines.
Whereas the Biden administration weaponized the pandemic to force illegal public health decrees on the public and enrich pharmaceutical companies, I will use every tool I have to protect our citizens who are misled and harmed by Pfizer's action.
Yeah, this is wild.
ian crossland
That's cool.
I think I heard Dr. Drew and Kelly Victory talking about that on Drew's show.
Well, their show.
They have a show together on YouTube.
I think they've been talking about this, like, before.
Like, they knew this was coming.
I don't know if they've mentioned Texas or any of that.
And I don't want to misrepresent, but I feel like I've heard this coming down the pipe.
And there's more data that'll be coming down the pipe about these things from the scientists I've been listening to.
tim pool
Here's the crazy thing, right?
So we also got this other information that came out earlier this morning that YouTube was colluding with the government to censor COVID-19.
Misinformation, they called it.
The only problem is you have actual board-certified doctors on YouTube who are getting censored and banned for giving their medical opinions.
I believe YouTube should be held civilly liable to anybody who is adversely affected by the medical advice YouTube gave.
I believe it is fair to say that when YouTube announced their editorial guidelines on what was true medical information, they effectively gave that medical advice to individuals.
So, I'll give you an example.
You were allowed on YouTube to advocate that people go into parking lots and get injected by strangers.
You were not allowed to tell people not to do that.
Yeah.
If you said, I don't think it's safe, you shouldn't do it, you got banned.
ryan long
Because they were not allowing the opposite opinion of it, you're saying?
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
So YouTube was making sure the only thing people could hear was, go and do this thing.
And anybody who challenged it... I mean, I'd love that to happen.
Suspended.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
tim pool
So, anybody... Not every medication is for everybody.
You might go to your doctor and they're gonna be like... They ask you this all the time, do you have any medicine allergies?
Let's say someone might have.
And all these YouTubers are like, what's the problem?
Go and do it, go and do it, go and do it.
Medical advice that YouTube said to give.
And then someone goes to a 7-Eleven parking lot, turns out they were allergic and got sick.
YouTube should be responsible.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, have you seen the test that YouTube?
I got a strike or a warning on my channel.
For what?
For Alex Stein actually coming on my show.
And then he was making a joke about the vaccine being safe and effective, but this was like two years ago.
And then he was being sarcastic, but saying the right words.
And then they gave me a warning, but then now they have a thing where they're like, you log in sometimes.
And so I logged in and they go, you can take this test to get rid of your warning.
And it had all these questions and they're all COVID related.
And some of them are so confusing.
Oh man, I'll have to pull it up.
Oh, you guys talk.
I'll try to find it.
But some of them were literally so confusing where I'm like, I don't even really like something's like a nurse.
She took COVID and it said it made her like a baron or something.
And then like, is this allowed?
And I'm like, I think not, but then it was, but it is.
Cause she's like a nurse and it's her own personal.
tim pool
They said a personal anecdote is fine, but widespread theories are not.
And it's like, how is the average person supposed to know any of this?
danny polishchuck
It's a really confusing test to take.
I was answering and I'm like, I don't know.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think they give it to you to deter you from talking about it?
tim pool
No, no.
danny polishchuck
It's so weird.
They're just like, do the test.
It's seven questions.
And if you pass the test, or if you take the test or whatever, then in three months, if you don't get another strike, we'll remove your warning.
ian crossland
Do you have to get 100% on the test?
danny polishchuck
I don't know.
I think I did.
ian crossland
Nice work.
danny polishchuck
Thank you.
Yeah, I cheated.
No, I don't know if you have to.
I think it might be like, even if you take it, then they show you what the right answer is.
I think you just keep going.
ian crossland
That's crazy.
So anecdotal statements about doing something was okay, but widespread saying... Yeah, if you said like, this thing does this thing to people, that's a no-no.
tim pool
But if you said, I did this thing and this happened to me, they said that was fine.
ian crossland
Oh, okay.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, it's nonsense.
It's like the first time in history.
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like it's designed to make people be like, I don't want to lose, I don't want to get any strikes, I'll just stay away from this topic entirely.
So they're saying, oh no, we're allowed to say whatever you want, we just make it so you live in fear and avoid it.
danny polishchuck
Okay, here's question six of seven for me, okay?
Jing is a nurse who makes educational health content.
In her latest video, she shares that since getting the COVID-19 vaccine last year, she has had three miscarriages.
She says that the COVID-19 vaccine made her infertile.
And it says, select the correct answers.
This video doesn't violate the policy because she's a medical professional.
This video doesn't violate the policy because Jing is allowed to share her personal experience, and this, and the third one is this video doesn't violate the policy because Jing is not spreading medical misinformation.
ian crossland
So it would be the second one according to Tim, and they just want to make sure.
danny polishchuck
I think that's what the answer was.
They want to make sure you've read the terms.
I'm like, I'm not sure because the previous questions were kind of the same, but they were like, no, you can't say this.
It does violate these things.
ryan long
Well, you need a name like Jing to be able to get away with what it sounds like.
danny polishchuck
And she's a nurse, Jing the nurse, so.
ian crossland
Oh wow, so it's like a multiple choice test and they're like, did you read the terms?
Do you understand the terms?
danny polishchuck
But they don't ask you to read anything in advance of this.
They're not like, hey, read this thing and take the test.
They're just like, take this test.
ian crossland
Huh.
danny polishchuck
And we'll take away your warning.
ian crossland
This is like, uh, we've got to, this has been, I'm glad it's been documented by humanity because this is the first time in medical history that the, the widespread, uh, first of all, global, what you would, they call it a pandemic and mass media with the individual being able to say whatever you want to a crowd of a million people co-alighted.
That's a funny word.
Coalide.
So how are we gonna handle it next time?
What are we supposed to do?
hannah claire brimelow
And it's interesting because there are all these moments where we would say like the
myocarditis that like suddenly was detected especially among young men and you would see
it happening different European countries being like, well, we think we're gonna maybe
limit this vaccine.
They would start dialing back down and the states would be like, no.
No, that's not real.
Like, that's a flu.
It's whatever.
And then it became more and more pronounced that this was something that was happening
danny polishchuck
in like actual doctors like, you know, Dr. J.
He's like works at Stanford and he's straight up like, yeah, that's like we should.
And they're like, you're off.
ian crossland
That's what doesn't make sense.
We should do nothing.
danny polishchuck
He's an expert.
tim pool
I'm not I'm not some staunch conservative.
I think Republicans should come out and sit at a big table and a press conference and
I'll just kind of look at each other and be like, we we heard that liberals wanted to
abort their their kids.
before this.
Yeah, we're all for that.
Democrats, please abort your children, and thank you, and they get up and walk out.
Like, make the point.
Blue states—my point is, if people want to do these things, you have a choice to determine for yourself.
The problem is the government authoritarianism.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's the big problem, is that the government was most likely involved in telling these companies what to censor and what not to censor.
tim pool
Well, the government was colluding with YouTube, so the problem is always government mandates, authoritarianism, and censorship.
When it comes to what should the people do, well, the people as individuals should decide, but we should restrict.
We should vote for people who are not going to allow the government to do these things, to weed them out.
That's what matters.
ian crossland
And have, like, systems where if that does happen, you know it's happening.
danny polishchuck
I mean, for sure, YouTube got their direction about this stuff.
ian crossland
I mean, it's a fact.
tim pool
The emails were released.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, exactly, right?
I mean, even still, YouTube has a policy where they still have COVID stuff.
They say you can't say on YouTube that the vaccine makes you magnetic.
That is a current strikeable offense.
Can I just say, like... And it doesn't!
But it does not make you magnetic.
tim pool
I was trying to say, like, that's the stupidest, most insane thing ever.
danny polishchuck
Like, you'd think, like, you'd be like, yeah, the vaccine doesn't turn you into a pig.
And they would say, hey, you can't say that.
You're like, we know it doesn't, though.
And you go, yeah, but you can't say it.
tim pool
But did you see all those videos?
Where people would stick magnets to their arms and then they were like, what's happening?
I was like, dude, it's called oil on your skin.
That's it.
danny polishchuck
But like, what's the harm in that?
Like, what are they so worried about that this is going to spiral out of control?
tim pool
Listen, listen, I think you need to understand, right?
The people who watch a show like this and you guys.
You guys have inner monologues, right?
Like, when you think there are words, and you think to yourself?
Because there are people who don't.
danny polishchuck
I say everything I think.
I don't have that, no.
tim pool
There are some people who don't have inner monologues.
ryan long
Two guys in my head fighting.
tim pool
That's better.
You have two.
danny polishchuck
Bare knuckle boxing.
ryan long
The censorship guys in the full Nelson right now.
tim pool
The way YouTube views things is, you guys might be smart enough to realize you're not going to become magnetic, but there are a lot of people who are not that smart, and they're gonna believe it.
Now, my view is the decentralized view of, let people believe what they wanna believe, you should not be the authoritarian top-down government says so, because the government gets things wrong, and then what happens when that guy, listen, this is the problem, the people who thought you'd be turned magnetic, get into government!
And then they tell YouTube to censor people who believe the truth, that's why we don't want this.
danny polishchuck
Well, I can't vote, but I would vote for Magnet Guy for president 1000%.
hannah claire brimelow
I think Pfizer just needs to get Anheuser-Busch's Marketing Girl and start presenting these things that, like, we know are adverse effects and causes.
Like, girls, great new form of birth control.
You won't get pregnant if you get the Pfizer vaccine.
And they would do it.
There are all kinds of women.
I mean, obviously, I don't advocate this for myself.
Everyone should have a family.
But you know, I think that there is a way they could spin this that's like super dark but actually fits current narrative that was like, this is a great idea, you want these things to happen.
ian crossland
I bet this is a debate that goes on deeply in the government, at the head of the government, at the head of YouTube, social networks, is like, how stupid are people?
How manipulatable are they?
danny polishchuck
Yeah, they do think there is like an element where they go like, you know, people are a danger to themselves, like a cohort of the population, probably like a large segment of it is a danger to themselves and we need to protect people from themselves.
But then it just, again, like, you know, there's adverse effects from the stuff that they made you do.
ian crossland
We were talking before the show that, like, how many people does it take to create a movement, and it's like one.
One guy can tell a bunch of people to do something, and then they all start telling people to do the thing.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, it's like with your thing with Santa Claus.
ian crossland
Big time.
Santa Claus, by the way, to have a conversation with your children.
I'm not gonna say it out loud, because there's a lot of people listening.
Question everything.
ryan long
I walked in, and Ian was Skyping with two kids, they were crying, and he was like, it's either you know now or never!
ian crossland
Danny wants me to be his Santa Claus at a mall.
unidentified
He should get a job as a mall Santa, and then when the kids sit there he goes, what do you want for Santa?
danny polishchuck
He goes, I'm not real.
ian crossland
Yeah, the Santa Claus thing freaks me out.
It's not so much about Santa Claus, it's about lying to children.
Come on, you can't- No, no, see what happens is- You guys at YouTube, you can't let people tell people that Santa Claus is real, that's misinformation.
danny polishchuck
That is misinformation!
tim pool
Ian's gonna be a mall Santa, the kid's gonna sit in his lap and he's gonna go, I'm not really Santa, my name's Ian Crossland.
And then the kid's gonna go home and put up, like, Ian Crossland pictures.
Mom, Santa's real name is Ian!
ian crossland
That's Ian coming down the chimney!
danny polishchuck
When's Ian coming?
ian crossland
He smelled funny.
ryan long
There's a man coming down this chimney, takes it off.
This was just a test.
I'm not real.
And you failed, kids.
tim pool
This kind of went wild for me, though, because I had older siblings, so I never thought Santa was real.
ryan long
Yeah.
ian crossland
Lucky, I got humiliated at school because when I was like 11 I still thought he was real.
unidentified
Oh, so now we know what this is all about!
ian crossland
I went to my mom and I was like, okay, so you lied to me about Santa, so you probably lied about God too.
So I thought that God was a lie for like 25 years after that.
ryan long
Terrible memories of first year of high school.
ian crossland
It was deep, dude.
ryan long
Showing up to gym class, you guys pumped?
ian crossland
Mike Robb was like, you idiot.
My mom puts an orange in my stocking and all the kids laughed in the gym locker room in fifth grade.
ryan long
And then finally, after he figured out Santa Claus wasn't real, he's like, at least we still have the tooth fairy, right, boys?
danny polishchuck
Did you have one of those families, like, no TV kind of thing?
ian crossland
I was the oldest.
No, I was the oldest, so they didn't know when to tell me.
They were just letting it ride until I found out.
hannah claire brimelow
Did they, like, bring stuff to, like, encourage it?
Like, did they, like... I know some families, like, to put, like, boot prints in the snow or whatever.
ian crossland
Yeah, they would have cookies half-eaten at night, and I was like, yes, he is real, you guys!
And all the kids were laughing and, like, Mike Robb definitely won that one.
What's happening, Mike?
danny polishchuck
Well, anyways, we know the motivations behind this.
ryan long
Who is that man that kept coming into my room?
ian crossland
All that stuff.
Down the chimney.
How the hell?
We don't even have a chimney.
Didn't matter.
danny polishchuck
I love that you're 11.
tim pool
I've heard this a lot before.
I heard this a lot before, though, from older kids in the family that they were made fun of for thinking Santa was real.
So my sister's five years older than me.
As soon as I was like a conscious entity of some sort, she's like, there's no Santa.
And I'm just like, oh.
I don't know what that means anyway.
danny polishchuck
The presents are still coming, so just keep your mouth shut.
ian crossland
Exactly.
And I would have been thankful to my parents if I'd known they were the ones buying it the whole time.
hannah claire brimelow
My- all of my younger siblings eventually confronted someone in our family with- because they're much younger than me- confronted us with some sort of evidence.
Like, oh, it's interesting that he wouldn't fit down our trimony.
Or they'd be like, that wrapping paper looks familiar to me.
Or like, whatever it was.
Like, I think at some point kids naturally question this.
Like, it's one thing- Not Ian!
unidentified
No.
tim pool
I trust the parents.
I gotta read the super chat.
Adam Smith said that kids have their entire adult lives to be miserable.
Let children believe in magic and enjoy childhood.
You know what?
Hold on.
Let me answer this because this one actually is completely the inverse of my world view.
Children should have jobs.
You like that one, huh?
unidentified
They don't have to work in mines.
tim pool
They don't have to work in factories.
They can deliver papers, they can shovel snow, they can mow lawns.
The reason they're miserable as adults is because the world they were given as children was ripped away from them once they got older.
Give them the world of reality as children, so when they grow up, they're not miserable because they're like, this is the world.
What do you mean?
unidentified
Why would I be unhappy?
ian crossland
And expose kids to the magic of quantum physics.
You want to talk about wild reality, man?
Think of like, the vibrating essence of the Higgs field.
Yeah, dude!
Coulomb field.
Like, you want to make kids think about wild and crazy ideas?
Give them science.
That's the nuttiest dude.
hannah claire brimelow
See, I think it's fine to do this with Santa.
I just think it depends on how you present it.
Like, having folklore is fine.
It can be cultural.
Like, you going out of your way to trick your children.
Like, I don't like the elf on the shelf guy, where they're like, he comes out and he, like, rips apart your kitchen, and then we clean it up, and we think it's funny.
tim pool
Is that what- is that real?
hannah claire brimelow
That's elf on the shelf.
Like, this is thing, and like, at night he pulls pranks, but then it's like, he just does these, like, messy disasters pranks.
Like, that seems awful to me.
I'd rather have Santa than this, like, destructive creature you bring into your house, and your kids are like- But you don't have to have either.
tim pool
I'd have to have none of it.
So all kids do miracles in real life.
ryan long
Look at trillions of dollars being printed out of thin air.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Let's talk about fantasy.
hannah claire brimelow
Go back to work.
ian crossland
What's money?
tim pool
Santa gives all of your presents to the government.
That's what they do.
And what do they do with the presents?
They drop them on kids in foreign countries at high rates of speed.
hannah claire brimelow
We should just have the libertarians rebrand Santa.
ryan long
The government's taking 50% of the presents and he cuts them in half.
Each present in half.
This is a lesson that you gotta learn at four.
ian crossland
I think because we've been lied to by our parents, a lot of people are recycling.
danny polishchuck
All the way up to, you know, eleven years of age.
ian crossland
It's like an abusive cycle.
They're like, what's so wrong with it?
unidentified
happened to me it's fine I'll lie. Does it still feel like they lied to you at a certain point where you were like oh
hannah claire brimelow
they were just trying to give me a natural childhood?
ian crossland
Yeah but it confused the hell out of me. It's not a happy childhood. Probably sure it confused the hell out of them
danny polishchuck
when you're like 30 being like mom I forgive you.
tim pool
Look at millennials, look at the younger generations today they're entitled, they're lazy, they're Marxist and it's
not all because of Santa.
unidentified
50-50. 50-50 right? Well listen to this.
tim pool
The idea that some authority figure, a big, fat, suit-wearing authority figure shows up and gives you what you ask for, if you're good?
And he's wearing red?
No, no, no, listen!
And he's wearing red?
This was a communist plot from the beginning!
hannah claire brimelow
But he doesn't wear red in all cultures!
Like, that's the thing!
tim pool
He wants to put you in the coal mines!
Look, you take kids, you take them to the middle of the woods, and you leave them there and say, good luck, and if they survive for two weeks, then they're strong enough, like the Spartans do, right?
No, I'm kidding.
My point is, I don't think you should pamper children at all.
I think kids, from the moment they're born, should understand life is not fair.
And this idea, like, no, let them have magic in their life.
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
To rip it away from them and gut them when they're older?
No, no, no.
Let them understand the reality of what the world is, be a good parent, teach them to survive in it, and they will find happiness.
ryan long
Did you like sitting on Santa's lap?
Well, newsflash, that was a pedophile.
ian crossland
Magic is real, man.
ryan long
This is a lesson that you're learning.
ian crossland
How does an atom form?
Let the kid think about that.
danny polishchuck
I don't even know that!
Exactly!
ian crossland
If I was four and six and that's what I was thinking about on Christmas Eve, it would have been a lot cooler than, like, Wondering how a dude can fly through the sky and then finding out it wasn't real.
Plus it's about Jesus.
The whole thing's supposed to be about Jesus Christ.
And the fact that they turned it, commodified it into some thing, the corporation, like Coca-Cola having these pictures of big fat Santa drinking his sugar.
hannah claire brimelow
You're speaking to an evangelical audience now.
tim pool
Look man, why is it that millennials don't want to work?
Humans like doing what they were doing when they were young, because these are the formative years where they are being created and they're being taught.
Everybody, well not everybody, but we were talking about this earlier, Chick Magnet by MXPX came on the radio and I was listening to streaming radio and I was like, I know how to play that song on guitar, I know every word of that song, and I haven't played it in 25 years.
Cause just, I was 12 years old, I learned that song, and it'll never leave.
ryan long
Yeah, I got you.
tim pool
So these kids are growing up.
ryan long
But I don't think it's only that.
There's also that people are incentivized where they see, they see a pathway that doesn't seem like it's gonna work for them, and that's one of the reasons they don't want to work.
tim pool
Yeah, but look.
ryan long
Sorry, say that again?
danny polishchuck
Demoralized, kinda.
ryan long
Yeah, like they see, they go, why don't you want to work?
And you go, it doesn't seem like it's gonna, work out for me either way.
tim pool
Yeah, but that's part of the issue, right?
Kids, millennials especially, millennials are a lost generation.
And you look at all the data, and I'm not trying to be cute, like, it's a fact, millennials are broken as a generation.
Not every single millennial, but a lot of them.
My first job when I was nine years old.
Family business.
I mowed lawns.
I shoveled snow.
If I needed money, I had to work for it.
So when I grow up, I'm not averse to hard work.
I'm like, I'm driven.
I'm driven to do it.
I'm driven.
Gotta work more.
Gotta build.
Gotta build that castle.
I don't know what the light at the end of the tunnel is.
All I know is, like, gotta put one more brick in the foundation.
All of my friends, though, did literally nothing.
Not all of them, but a lot of them.
They rode their bike around, they played video games, then they went to school, were told what to do, then they went to college, now they're all in debt, and they hate working.
I'm like, well, right.
They were created by their parents and raised to never work.
Why would they enjoy doing work that creates when they've never done it before?
Their first job out of college.
You know, they're people.
Average millennial, probably.
ryan long
Well, they have to start seeing the rewards of that work, but there's some truth to what you're saying for sure.
tim pool
No, no, no.
Listen.
Allowance?
There's food in the fridge.
You go to school.
Lunch is given to you.
Your parents have a lunch plan or it's a public school and they give you lunch.
Then you go to high school.
You're told to do the entire step of the way.
Everything's given to you.
Then you go to college.
unidentified
Loans.
tim pool
Pay for everything.
Then you leave.
Now you're in debt.
Good luck.
They've never worked before, they don't understand, and they're all saying to themselves, why isn't the authority just giving me what I want and need anymore?
ian crossland
That's allowance.
tim pool
Me?
I did the opposite.
It's like, you want money?
Go shovel snow, go mow the lawn.
So then we would go door-to-door and be like, can I mow your lawn, can I rake your leaves, can I shovel your snow?
You make ten bucks.
Then I got a job at my family's coffee shop, nine years old, bought Pokemon and Game Boy by myself.
Now that I'm older, I'm like, what's the next thing I can do to build that castle and get where I need to go?
ryan long
I think you're also in a system though where you're reaping the benefits of your rewards, right?
A lot of people are having trouble getting on the track, you know, and I have a little more faith in them.
I have a little more faith in people and I don't think it's just that they have like a culture of laziness.
I think that some people are having trouble getting on a track to start.
tim pool
Bro, I was put on the track when I was six years old, seven years old.
These people are in their 20s, and they've never been on the track before.
That's my point.
ryan long
So I mean, like, okay, let's say you get into a- there's lots of people- let's say you get into a workplace, and you're like, oh, if I work here- hard here, I can get promoted here, and then, okay- And that's already the problem!
Then you see there's a- Don't take a job!
You're saying hard work for the sake of hard work.
tim pool
No, listen.
So, there's a lot of... I play guitar when I'm 12 years old.
I learned how to play basic chords.
When I'm 19, when I'm 20, I need money, I take my guitar out to Wrigley Field, I stand outside, I play guitar, I make money.
ryan long
Well, that's why you're a multi-millionaire, right?
tim pool
Right.
But it's because when I was a kid, my parents were like, if you want something, you have to figure out how to produce values that someone will give it to you.
There's no man in the chimney who's going to come and give you whatever you want.
That's not happening.
There's no authority, and no boss will give you what you want.
If you want something, you have to figure it out.
ryan long
That's a funny thing.
He's like, please!
danny polishchuck
There's no man in the chimney!
ryan long
There's no man in the chimney.
ian crossland
Yeah, I know what you mean.
I had friends that got allowances.
I think that's very communist.
That'll get you wanting UBI when you're older.
tim pool
Not if you do chores.
ian crossland
Then you get rewards for, like, incentives.
That's pretty cool.
Like, if you get an A, I had one friend, if he got an A on his report card, he'd get 10 bucks for every A. I was like, oh, snap!
But my parents wouldn't do that.
They were like, you gotta work.
But Patrick Bet-David, for instance, he makes his kids read a book.
Every book they read is currency in his house.
So he's like, how many books?
It's 20 books to get that thing, that race car.
How many books have you read?
And they say, two.
And he's like, 18 more.
And then you're gonna get it.
And they walk in and they see the thing up on the top shelf.
And he's just reading, reading, reading.
ryan long
In general, like, the ideal that greatness is good is good for kids to have.
tim pool
In grade school, in first grade, my teacher had a thing called 10 tickets.
And if you did the appropriate thing, you got a ticket.
And once you had 10, you could go up to the box and trade tickets for a prize.
ryan long
That's that's the kind of thing and then also prize was a knighted her.
tim pool
No, it was like a recorder you get a little And yo-yos yo-yos were oh, yeah, and then my parents did the thing where we got money for every ABCD and and a downward sliding scale give you money for these D?
No, I think D's were nothing.
I think A's were like $3, B's were $2, C's were something like that.
It's very Asian.
Well, only my mom.
Every report card it was like, you've got $50, let's go buy Legos.
ian crossland
And it's like, yes!
danny polishchuck
Yeah, you want to have a good incentive.
ryan long
You're incentivized, yeah.
ian crossland
I couldn't manipulate my parents into that one.
And then I gave up on grades in fourth grade because of it.
I was like, why am I even trying?
They don't even check my homework anyway.
danny polishchuck
I love that you gave up on grades before you knew Santa was fake.
ian crossland
If I get a B-, no one will complain, so that's what I am.
ryan long
So the theory is that from a young age, kids need to have those incentive structures set up.
tim pool
Let's go back pre-Industrial Revolution, and even somewhat into it.
Children would be with their parents the entire time.
There's no daycare, there's no public schooling system.
ian crossland
There was no Santa Claus?
tim pool
Sure.
There's a kid, he wakes up, once he's old enough, the dad's like, here's how you help.
Wash the clothes.
Now that kid, every day, is interacting with the business of the parents and learning from adults.
There's a viral video where these ten-year-old kids, uh, it's from like the fifties, and they're talking about war or whatever, and they sound like adults.
And everyone was shocked!
They were like, why do these kids sound like they're talking like adults?
And it's like, well, we used to raise them!
ryan long
They've been working in a factory for five years.
tim pool
At that point, they weren't working in factories, but... So when I'm nine years old, my mom opens a coffee shop on the north side of Chicago, and so I go work there on the weekends.
When I'm working the cash register, I have an adult man complaining to me.
When I go and sit down to have lunch, there's a bunch of adults working at that cafe talking about politics.
I'm surrounded by adults who speak like adults, and so that puts me in an entirely different position to all the other sixth graders who were talking about yo-yos.
When I go back to school during the week, and I've got 30 bucks in cash from tips from working at my family's business, they're all broke.
And I'm like, oh, I got lunch.
And they're like, whoa, Tim's rich!
And I'm like, I have a job.
I work in my family business.
So I bought Pokemon Red by myself.
I said I wanted Pokemon and Ed goes, well, how many weeks until you save up enough tips?
And I was like, I don't know, I think two weeks.
And then I got the money and then I bought a Game Boy and Pokemon and I was like, this is mine.
I bought it.
So that's how I grew up.
And then my friends, I was talking to a friend of mine.
ryan long
Let me give you the other side of that, though.
So I, for example, like worked a bunch of jobs as a referee, worked for the city, worked at the hockey rink, did a bunch of different things like that, right?
I always was the worst employee because I knew that this is not what I'm going to do.
I'm just doing this because basically I'm forced to have a job against my will.
Whatever, you need to have money and stuff like that.
I was a guy that did a bad job at that work and probably spent all my time trying to be funny and making jokes and stuff like that.
ian crossland
This is like four years ago?
ryan long
This is four years ago.
ian crossland
Just kidding, but how old were you when all this was going down?
ryan long
I don't know.
Started probably from, whatever, 12 or, you know, probably when I was in early high school, I was working there.
Yeah, I had a paper routes, all that sort of stuff, but bad employee.
And I would say some of that, uh, because I was using my brain, I was thinking of, you know, being funny and all that sort of stuff.
And that on, in my specific case, like, uh, that led to what I'm doing now.
tim pool
So there is suffering of the job is no just focusing on I would say what I would now describe is like being creative not every single person However, I believe it is overwhelming that if we teach kids You need to work to survive like you said you were forced against your will to have a job.
ryan long
I'm saying greatness is a That's why when you were talking about Patrick B'David making his kids read books or someone making their kid be great at sports, it doesn't always have to come in the form of work at some job that you're getting no skills for, not really learning anything.
Greatness can be learned and that value can be implemented on a kid.
Work doesn't mean job.
tim pool
Work means producing value.
Work means doing something.
ryan long
If you're playing minor hockey, you're not producing any value.
tim pool
You absolutely are.
ryan long
To yourself you are.
tim pool
It's entertaining for the people who are watching.
ryan long
For nobody.
tim pool
So, why do we have sports?
Well, bro, there are pro athletes who make more money than firefighters.
That's like the norm for pro athletes.
Because it's valuable to people who like to watch it.
ryan long
Once you're good at it.
tim pool
Plus, you're being physically fit, you're improving your health, there's tremendous benefits to this.
And then, when you want to do certain jobs, like let's say you're good at riding a bike, guess what?
You can be a courier.
There's tons of skills you can learn and transfer them to work.
And being funny and sharpening that skill is a value to society.
People think work means serving burgers.
Well, if you like making burgers, then that's your work.
If you like writing songs, that's your work.
The problem is there are people posting videos on TikTok being like, I literally want to do nothing.
I want to go home and turn the TV on.
That's what this generation is built on.
So, my point is... Something.
ryan long
You have to focus on something.
tim pool
When parents should give their kids guidance and make them do things, because I can't tell you how many stories I've heard from people who are like, my parents made me do this and I hated it and now I love it.
There's like... What would be an example?
A friend of mine, he's a pro skateboarder, who, as a child, said to their father, I want to get a skateboard like all the other kids.
And the dad said, if I get you this skateboard, you will skate every week, no matter what.
You can skate whenever you want, but every weekend, we're going.
ryan long
Like a tiger dad for skateboarding.
tim pool
And they were like, deal!
And then after three months, they said, I don't want to skate anymore.
And he goes, we're going to the skate park now.
Now they're a pro skateboarder and they're like, I'm glad my parents made me do this.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
I think a lot of, like, you know, musicians, like, you know, a lot of, like, violin players are like, I hate it.
ryan long
Oh, I had to play the piano against my will.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I think ultimately, especially children, they're just motivated differently, right?
Like, one of my younger siblings loves street, no problem.
One of them hates it.
You can't expect them all to do the same things.
I think that's one of the challenges with saying, like, You might have the one kid who is like, yes, I would love to make money.
Give me every side job that we have.
I want to get a paper route as soon as I can.
You have another kid who's like, I don't want to do that.
Those things aren't motivating to me.
And so it's hard to adapt a universal strategy.
I think the idea that you need to be willing to take on responsibility and you need to be contributing to your household, you need to be expecting things not to be given to you, but to work for them is a good thing.
tim pool
Here's what drives kids.
Their peers.
So, uh, it's not absolute, but there's a tendency.
If you take a kid and say, I want you to learn piano, that kid's going to be like, I don't want to learn piano.
That's so stupid.
Why?
Because what are their friends doing?
They want to be social with their peer group because humans do.
However, later on in life, when they're really good at piano and everyone's praising them for it, now they feel good.
Like, wow, I'm really glad my parents got me to do this.
ian crossland
Also, when three of your friends have instruments and they want to start a band, that's when I get the snare drum.
tim pool
And that's what happened to me.
So I'm like, I guess I'll play, I'll play drums.
I get a drum set.
I stopped playing after a few days.
I learned how to play.
And then I won like an award at school and I took lessons.
And then I was like, I don't care.
unidentified
Coolest guy.
tim pool
And then my friend said, we don't need a drummer.
We need a guitarist.
And I went, mom, I need a guitar now.
And so then she's like, okay, well here, take your brother's guitar.
My brother was like, don't take my guitar.
What are you doing?
And she's like, you don't play it.
And then he's like, what's dumb.
And she's like, I'll get you a bass or whatever.
If you let him fine.
Okay, fine.
Now I'm learning guitar because my friends were trying to be in a band.
So I'm just trying to fit in and I ended up playing guitar.
ian crossland
I had another incentive-based thing.
Even in college, my parents were like, if you get a job, we'll pay half your rent.
I was like, sweet, I'll get a job.
tim pool
We're gonna go to Super Chat, so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, head over to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member, because I'm sure the members only on Censored Show will be pretty wild, and it'll be fun, and we'll take your questions, and let's hear what you got to say right now.
unidentified
Alright.
tim pool
Kilted Carnivore says, in Trump's voice, First!
The very best!
unidentified
First!
tim pool
It's very good.
Congratulations, Kilted Carnivore.
Culture Abduction says, I'm first tonight, dammit.
Uh, no, you're not.
Sorry!
Clint Torres says, Howdy, people!
Did you miss me?
Trick question, of course you did.
But you are also third.
Congratulations to Kilted Carnivore for being the first Super Chat.
ian crossland
Hi, Clint.
tim pool
How's it going?
Ready to Rumble says, Tim, you should do a segment on the Palestinian protesters showing up to the Christmas tree celebration in New York, chanting, burn it down!
I talked a little bit about it earlier, and what I said was, this is why I despise the woke left, because you can talk about the debate between left and right, but nobody takes Christmas from me.
ian crossland
Pine trees are legit, dude.
Let's praise the pine tree.
tim pool
Last year you were here right before Christmas.
ryan long
Is that true?
tim pool
And we had these little Hershey's Kisses, and you were like, oh, Christmas.
And I'm like, you see, Christmas, man!
Ian Ryan gets it!
ryan long
I'm Jewish and I love Christmas.
danny polishchuck
I love Christmas.
ryan long
Don't!
Don't!
danny polishchuck
Stop!
ian crossland
You really landed on there.
danny polishchuck
I love Christmas.
ryan long
Listen, you and Ian can have whatever you do.
ian crossland
You into Hanukkah?
danny polishchuck
Whatever pagan rituals you're getting up to.
tim pool
Yeah, Ian dances naked around the trees outside.
ian crossland
We're talking about Amanita Muscaria, dude, and the Tibetans that would go under the pine tree, and they'd collect the reindeer dung, would, you know, fertilize the Amanita Muscaria mushroom, and they'd collect it and bring it back because their teepees, their yurts were snowed in, they'd have to climb down the chimney, hang them up in socks over the fireplace to dry them out overnight, and then they'd drink Amanita Muscaria tea the next morning.
tim pool
Let's grab this one.
We got Jacob Paradis says, shout out to Home Depot for supporting Donald Trump's campaign, even if he's convicted.
Just in time for Christmas shopping.
What, did they come out with a statement or something?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, he ran an op-ed a little while ago.
He's endorsed him before.
ryan long
Support everything orange.
hannah claire brimelow
To be fair, I think they're talking about the founder of Home Depot.
He's not technically with the company anymore, but he's a very wealthy billionaire.
tim pool
He's looking down at his apron and it's orange and he looks at the TV and he sees Trump and he looks down again and looks up and he's like, If they come for one of us, they come for all of us.
Anything orange.
All right, what do we got?
Dududabide says, breaking news, SCOTUS dockets another Illinois assault weapons ban case.
Justice Amy Coney Barrett gives Illinois till December 6th to respond to plaintiffs in the Naperville case who brought in an emergency appeal to SCOTUS.
Very, very cool.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Well, we will see.
We will see.
Let's grab some more Super Chats.
What have we?
Uh, let's see.
Miss Mary says, question for Ian.
What mountains are in Florida?
ian crossland
That was all a lie.
Luke's not actually living in the mountains.
He's in Miami.
tim pool
He's in the Everglades on like a little raft.
ian crossland
The Azores.
danny polishchuck
It's quite flat.
ian crossland
I'm just naming mountains.
Are there mountains in Florida?
danny polishchuck
I don't think so.
tim pool
Greg Nubia says, Tim, I cancelled my subscriptions to Max the day Warner Boys said they were pulling ads on X. They asked why and I told them, because you pulled ads on X. Yesterday I joined Angel Studios to replace Max.
ryan long
Hear, hear!
tim pool
That's how we do.
That's what we do.
Yeah, we gotta get Ryan Long and Danny to do an Angel Studios movie.
ryan long
Is that what the studio's called?
ian crossland
The distribution company.
tim pool
They did Sound of Freedom.
danny polishchuck
Oh, they did Sound of Freedom.
tim pool
And so the way it works is you submit like a... A torch.
Yeah, it's like a screener.
ryan long
I think that was last time we were here too.
tim pool
Was it?
ryan long
That just came out, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, you do a screener.
ian crossland
Or no, wait, like a five minute, what they call it a torch, it's like a five minute preview of the movie.
tim pool
Everybody there basically votes if they want to see it produced.
ryan long
That's sick.
tim pool
And then this basically is how the funding goes to the movie.
And then they got a movie coming out on Friday, The Shift.
ryan long
That's a great way to do it, yeah.
So everyone votes on it, and then all the money goes to the one that gets voted the most?
tim pool
Pretty cool.
And so they've got like 200,000 members.
ryan long
How much money?
What's the budget?
tim pool
I don't know what their budgets are, but I can say, to be a member, it's $20 a month, or $150 a year, and they have 175K members.
ryan long
What a cool service.
tim pool
There's funding there for these movies, right?
hannah claire brimelow
And you can resubmit.
If it doesn't get high enough, they'll let you resubmit.
Eventually, if they like it enough, they'll help you with it.
They're telling a story.
That's how the shift got through.
tim pool
And they say it's all about uplifting the light.
So if it's, like, not evil content, if you're, you know, basically, if you're, like, not- Oh, so we shouldn't be, like, Sound of Freedom, but where the bad guys are the good guys?
ryan long
From the other perspective.
Just think about it!
Criminal organization getting taken down.
tim pool
Have you seen Freedom Tunes' joke about this?
Seamus's?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
What is the joke?
It's two movie executives who are looking at the news about all the money coming in for Sound of Freedom, so they're like, what is all this?
Why are people liking this movie?
How is it such a big deal?
Let's go watch it.
And then it shows them in the theater and they're like shocked and they're crying.
And then as they're leaving, wiping tears away, they're like, I can't believe it, I never knew those poor traffickers.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
tim pool
All right, what do we have?
MF Damien says PetSmart owns Chewy while selling its own version.
Of course, controlled opposition, man.
If you're going to sell a Pop-Tart, you know, you got to make the opposition nasty ones.
And then you can be like, we're better than that brand because another brand can't sue you.
ryan long
Classic.
tim pool
That's how you do it, man.
Kaleem Mims says, Bob Iger is the reason Disney is doing this nonsense.
He's the reason they are being political because he wanted to be president and he wanted to be part of the embassy with China.
He needs to go.
ryan long
Was he making a play in the political world?
tim pool
I guess.
unidentified
I don't know.
ian crossland
I heard that he was admitted that they've been doing poorly because of the politics.
danny polishchuck
Oh, for sure.
ESPN is like disaster because of that.
tim pool
Salty says, Tim, great guest.
Ryan Long is hilarious.
When do we, when do we, the live action show of my comic, when do we do it?
Silence Duguid.
I so want to cast him as the lead, a young Ben Franklin who takes on an AI that thinks it's God.
I just have to point out, he didn't mention Danny.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, that's fine.
hannah claire brimelow
Danny's here too, guys.
He's important.
He's a comic.
tim pool
Yeah, so Salty made a comic, Silence Duguid.
ryan long
I'm more of a Ben Franklin, yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Alahad says, here to help you pay for your ice bath, Tim.
unidentified
Haha.
tim pool
Well, I appreciate it.
We got one.
It's so cool.
I'm excited.
Uh, cause I hear like after you exercise, what do you do?
Like jump in it?
ian crossland
No, you're supposed to, if you want to build the muscle, you wait six hours before you get cold.
But if you're, if you want to shrink the muscle and you don't want it to grow, then yeah.
Right.
ryan long
And you're not doing the ice bath.
ian crossland
This is Andrew Huberman stuff.
ryan long
He just bought it.
danny polishchuck
What's that liquid nitrogen thing that you do?
tim pool
Like you go into a chamber and it sprays you?
ryan long
It's a cryo-chamber.
danny polishchuck
But that's more after lifting.
tim pool
Instagram told me to do it.
ryan long
And I just feel like I'm fine.
And that you haven't even done it yet.
ian crossland
That's more after lifting.
And definitely look into that.
I don't want to miss your opportunity.
danny polishchuck
First thing in the morning, too.
tim pool
Yeah.
What's that liquid nitrogen thing that you do?
Like, you go into a chamber and it sprays you?
danny polishchuck
The cryo chamber.
ian crossland
The cryo chamber.
danny polishchuck
Hyperbaric?
Is that what it's called?
No, no, it's a cryo chamber.
It's like you go in there and it's, I don't know, minus.
hannah claire brimelow
They do it to like tone your muscles or something, right?
danny polishchuck
I think it's just for inflammation and stuff.
It's like minus 50.
ryan long
It's good for a million things.
danny polishchuck
But you only go in for two minutes.
tim pool
Nanya Business says, you guys know you can turn off targeted ads, right?
Why would I want to do that?
ryan long
You can- I actually didn't know that, but- But why would I want to?
tim pool
Like, what- what- I'm gonna get an ad for, like, a hairdryer?
I don't have hair.
You know, I want an- I want an ad for a TV I might buy.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
ryan long
I do buy clothes often.
danny polishchuck
Well, that's the stuff when you get apps and they go ask- with Apple's update,
and they go, like, ask app- the ask, uh, not to track you or whatever.
Yeah, you can- And they give you an option, and you can say no, and then-
hannah claire brimelow
They're like, yeah, now we're definitely not- And then they just give you random-
ian crossland
Like, yeah, now suffer!
Like, this is what you get!
tim pool
But they just- they sent me an ad for this adjustable heat and ice bath thing.
I'm like, I'm glad they did because I want- I want it.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
tim pool
You know what I mean?
ian crossland
Man.
ryan long
I just get a picture of a guy and he goes, tread on this!
I go, ooh, don't mind if I do!
What we're gonna get is a- I'll find a Fuego shirt, that'd be good.
tim pool
We're gonna get a sensory deprivation tank.
ian crossland
Yes, please.
danny polishchuck
Oh, those are awesome.
ian crossland
Dude, I just heard from Corin Nemec when I was interviewing him last couple weeks ago that the pyramids were apparently sensory deprivation chambers they would use to astrally project their consciousness.
unidentified
Okay.
ian crossland
They're capped with gold.
This is like masonry, freemasonry stuff.
danny polishchuck
I don't know.
ian crossland
Wild concept.
He said they found heavy saltwater residue in the king's chamber.
I feel like I don't get cool inscriptions.
ryan long
Don't want to put a black light in the king's chamber.
tim pool
Wasn't it something like on Rogan some guy said that the Egyptians found the pyramids or something like that?
ryan long
The guy who has the Netflix series is?
tim pool
Is that what it is?
ryan long
What's that guy's name?
Graham Hancock.
tim pool
The Egyptians didn't build it, they found it.
ryan long
Graham Hancock's main theory from what I can see is that history started before we started recording it.
danny polishchuck
So when, not recorded, but like all of the professors and all of the... And there's been huge floods that basically reset everything.
ryan long
But they were saying, he's kind of saying the Ice Age killed everyone and he was kind of like, it didn't kill everyone.
There was still some people kicking around and that's where they had these ideas from.
tim pool
Because, like, it's 50 degrees out here right now and it's not supposed to be.
What if, like, Antarctica melts and there's skyscrapers and just, like, a city?
That'd be awesome.
Yeah.
And that's why it's, like, hard to go.
It's, like, so much ice.
You can't really find anything.
It's really hard to go there.
But the ice melts and then all of a sudden everyone's like, dude.
danny polishchuck
I've been hearing that it has Atlantis with the solar cycles apparently are a big part of it or at least people are saying Ben Davidson talks a lot about I've been hearing solar weather man yeah I can't confirm or deny but on Twitter solar weather man goes deep on this stuff that every like that's why it seems cyclical is because it has to do with Well, it is crazy to think that if there was a solar, because, you know, they say, like, they have these old civilizations, and because everything is digitized right now, if there was, say, a solar flare and everything just, you know, went to crap, it would only take a hundred years or two hundred years before just this would just all be kind of gone.
And, like, uranium, no electricity, everything would just be lost.
ian crossland
You can dig up uranium, and then how hard is it to make nuclear power out of uranium?
I don't know the enrichment process.
tim pool
You put it in water.
danny polishchuck
Probably pretty hard.
tim pool
The water boils, and then you have this pressure spin.
ian crossland
Well, you've got to do stuff to it though.
It can't just raw uranium.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, I don't think we're just going to kind of DIY uranium.
tim pool
I think the crazier thing would be creating the gigantic copper coils.
ian crossland
copper with the bag that batteries and mass they create a lot of little ones
tim pool
look up electric motors and what you need to create an electric motor
ryan long
we're talking about a lot of the boys cast wise you know every
you know every 15 minutes it seems like there's like a new article being like
all the Emperor was actually trans or the hunters were actually women I yes I there's a lot that
we're just love in the idea of like what chance D win when you die
like in and a a million years they're gonna be having articles just
saying you're doing all the stuff
him was like a trans dog but I know they're gonna we have a we have a
tim pool
portrait of Mr bogus They're gonna, like, find the house.
ryan long
They're gonna find one little joke.
tim pool
They're gonna be like, they worship cats.
If aliens found the internet, they'd be like, these people worship cats.
And dogs.
ian crossland
That's a toxoplasmosa, man.
By the way, Bucko's doing great.
I haven't seen him for a week, so it was shocking to see him after a week.
tim pool
He ripped his back open.
ian crossland
Yeah, but it feels real good if you rub the sides of his...
tim pool
So we had to give him a neckerchief because for some reason he started scratching and he rubbed it raw.
ian crossland
Maybe he was dehydrated.
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe he was cold and he was asking for a scarf.
Now he's happier.
tim pool
I don't know.
I think he's sick and something was causing him to itch.
ian crossland
His eyes are better.
hannah claire brimelow
I think he likes fashion and he likes the accessory.
ian crossland
Yeah, he's probably dehydrated.
tim pool
But Seamus 1 is doing fairly well.
ian crossland
Oh, nice.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
Do you have any video of him yet?
tim pool
I mean, I haven't posted anything, but we do.
He's using the litter box.
So Seamus is... We got him in the garage.
He's using the litter box.
Nice.
And, you know... How's Seamus 2 taking it?
He's having a good time.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, Seamus 2's handling it well?
unidentified
Seamus 2 is... Seamus 2 ran away as soon as you got Seamus 1.
hannah claire brimelow
He's got some jealousy.
tim pool
Well, no, he was gone before this, but, you know, yeah.
Seamus One is going in for his appointment in a week and a half.
We're gonna cut his balls off.
ian crossland
Snip the bits?
tim pool
Snip the bits.
And he knows.
He stares at us when we go in there and he's like giving us his look.
ryan long
Getting all his humping in while he can?
tim pool
No, he's just like, he's in jail, man.
And he knows it's coming.
He's less than a year old.
He's a stray that was living in our garage.
And so we just trapped him, brought him to the vet, and we're gonna, you know, make him a friendly, happy cat.
danny polishchuck
Nice.
ryan long
Transin him.
tim pool
Well, you know, we don't want him having little cat babies.
Yeah, I get it.
But he's not happy about it because he liked being outside and hunting the birds and all that.
Now he's gonna be a little, you know, unit cat and living in the house and getting fat.
There you go.
Alright, let's read some more.
William Eubulus says, Disabled vet lost my job yesterday.
Car is broke down.
Will run out of money this month.
Need to see son hours away for holidays.
Give, send, go.
GBB35.
Well, good luck, sir.
Good luck, sir.
Alright, we'll grab another super chat.
Matt Murphy says Bud Light's strategy should be run the best three to four ads from the 80s, 90s, and 2000s, and then one new ad of Travis Kelsey dancing to Shake It Off, then just have a VP marketing, say to trades, we just want to get back to who we are.
ryan long
I'm listening.
tim pool
Did you hear that there's like some lady who said that Kelsey and Taylor Swift's relationship is just a fake stunt to make a bunch of money or something?
ryan long
I would imagine every opinion possible has been said about that situation by now.
danny polishchuck
I mean, it is crazy how he's just in all these ads all of a sudden that coincide exactly with the relationship.
I don't believe it.
tim pool
Taylor Swift doesn't need to do that.
It doesn't help her any.
I can't imagine.
danny polishchuck
Maybe it helps the NFL.
tim pool
But how much money do you have to offer Taylor Swift to fake relationships?
danny polishchuck
NFL has that money.
tim pool
I really don't know.
hannah claire brimelow
Have you heard the thing about they think she's going to break up with Travis Kelce because she's a big Eagles fan?
So when they go to the Super Bowl and it's Chiefs vs. Eagles, she's going to break up with him so he's a terrible game and the Eagles are going to win?
danny polishchuck
That's this year's script.
tim pool
Maybe the Eagles are paying her off.
And there's a mysterious $500 million wager.
For the other team, which is strange.
ryan long
Now we're talking.
hannah claire brimelow
Guys, he went to Trader Joe's to get her ice cream when her private plane flew directly to Kansas City.
They're obviously in love.
You're all wrong again.
tim pool
I'm imagining the NFL going to Taylor Swift's people and being like, how much money for you to be in a relationship with a football player?
ryan long
And he's sitting in the corner like really quiet.
tim pool
Yeah, she's gonna be like, what is she, a billionaire?
hannah claire brimelow
She is a billionaire.
tim pool
She's a billionaire.
She's gonna be like, dude, there's nothing you can give me.
unidentified
I don't care.
danny polishchuck
She gets a piece of a team.
hannah claire brimelow
He bought a nicer house to try and prove to her that he's worthy.
Guys, come on!
tim pool
At a certain point, I wonder why, like... We got suckered into talking about it, though.
hannah claire brimelow
Just like she wanted.
Just like she wanted.
ryan long
That's how they get you.
unidentified
That was her doing the super chat.
ryan long
That's how they get you, dude.
Before you know it, you're like, I think he does love her as much as he says he does.
danny polishchuck
We're all crying.
ryan long
You blink and you're in the convo.
tim pool
Let's grab some more super chats.
Carly says, Ian, do you believe kids should never be told Santa's real?
If not, what age do you think they should be told the truth?
All kids will get picked on.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think they should be told Saint Nicholas was a real saint, and who he was and what he was, that Jesus Christ was real, that Santa Claus was kind of built by the writer that figured him out in the 1800s, that Coca-Cola made him into an icon, and that, like, so people celebrate it.
Like, as soon as they learn to comprehend the things you're saying around Christmas time, be like, this is really cool.
And then have fun with Christmas.
Definitely do that.
unidentified
Start them with the truth early.
ryan long
First words, Santa's not real.
ian crossland
Look into my eyes.
ryan long
Alright.
tim pool
We just got this stupid YouTube super chat jump ahead when it happens.
What do we have here?
Paul Taskelos has made it 20 minutes into DeSantis v. Newsom debate.
My conclusion is, we may need to just make Trump the king of America because if these guys are the future of American politics, we're absolutely screwed.
ryan long
Oh, so it's a dud?
tim pool
It's- oh dude, like, there are some tweets.
Newsom said, the one thing that we have in common is neither of us will be the nominee.
And I'm like, that's exactly why I'm not- Newsom said that?
Yeah.
That's exactly why I'm turning it on.
Like, what is the point of this?
Dude, I think it really is, they're just laughing behind the scenes, being like, we destroyed it.
ryan long
Yeah, DeSantis walking a plank with that debate.
tim pool
He had a future.
DeSantis had a future.
He gave it away.
What is wrong with this guy?
But you know what?
I gotta be honest.
I'm glad they did it to him.
I'm glad they sank his campaign.
I'm glad the neocons tricked him into all of this stuff.
Because if he's this stupid, he should stay away from politics.
He should not be involved.
We need more capable people than this.
Vivek's better.
unidentified
I agree.
ian crossland
It's shocking that one of his campaign, who was it?
hannah claire brimelow
His national policy director.
ian crossland
Left?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, he just left for the Trump campaign.
ian crossland
That's wild.
ryan long
Do you like Vivek?
tim pool
Oh, of course!
Yeah, I like him a lot.
Vivek's fantastic.
Michael Beacon says the real St.
Nicholas was based and punched a dude in the face for denying the Trinity at the Council of Nicaea.
Teach kids about haymaker Santa.
They might like coal, but no one likes getting laid out.
unidentified
Ha ha!
ryan long
All right, let's see.
tim pool
Where are we at?
hannah claire brimelow
I did used to wonder if, like, parents in Wyoming where, like, coal is a major industry, they change the narrative.
So Santa doesn't give you coal.
Like, he gives you coal and it's a good thing.
Like, this powers your family.
This is a great noble thing.
danny polishchuck
We'll be freezing this year.
hannah claire brimelow
They're like, selling the name of coal and all these, like, West Virginia and Wyoming are like, no, no, in our house, if you're bad, Santa gives you... If you're bad, you get coal.
ryan long
And what if we get it if we're good?
Just coal, but more of it.
tim pool
Jermaine Wilkes says, voice cast makes me laugh.
Timcast makes me think.
Media is in Elon takedown mode.
Is this good or bad?
Is the move back to sense set to be destroyed?
Set to be destroyed ones now?
I don't know what that means.
Normies do not care.
I don't know.
ian crossland
I think it's neutral.
I don't think it's good or bad.
I think it is natural, the natural part of the process of the awakening, the, what do you call it?
The, uh, the great apocalypse.
ryan long
Maybe.
hannah claire brimelow
I think it's, I mean, the thing about Elon Musk is there are so many people who are excited about him all the time, no matter what, that you have to have some things that you're like, I disagree with that, right?
Like, when he's on WeChat in China, seems like there's some sketchy stuff going on there.
But I love his stance on, like, everyone should have huge families.
Like, you shouldn't have just one person who can do no wrong.
You have to be able to be critical a little bit.
ian crossland
Don't cult worship that guy.
That's super important, man.
He's just a dude.
ryan long
Well, if someone's agreeing with you always, it generally means that they're just listening to the pulse of what they should be saying, right?
Anyone that's an independent thinker, you're not going to agree with them on every single issue.
ian crossland
I just tweeted that out.
Actually, I blew my own mind with this tweet.
If you like posts because of who posted them and not because of the content of the post, you're in a cult.
tim pool
Alright, Orlando Ortiz says, I refuse to tell my daughter Santa is real, only because I refuse to teach her I lie about anything.
She deserves a better reality, a real one.
ian crossland
The thing is, though, you could say Santa, the idea of Santa is real, and tell them what it is.
That'll help them navigate understanding.
hannah claire brimelow
I think you should just talk about it in the, like, be like, yeah, many cultures have this myth about Santa.
We are Swedish, so this is how we grew up learning about it, but in America they talk about it this way, like, kids are smart enough to be able to start analyzing the differences between things and either, like, either they'll go through a make-believe phase where they'll say like, oh yeah, Santa, I have my own narrative about it, or they'll be like, that's interesting, it seems like probably doesn't work.
ryan long
With the internet, it's gotta be on its way out anyway, like, they can't, the jig is a bit up with the internet.
ian crossland
Yeah, some people were telling me they tell their kids that it's the myth, and then they still have fun with it and celebrate the myth.
hannah claire brimelow
I think that's what, like, I know that's what my dad's wife does with her kids.
She's like, it's a game.
Like, it's just a game that we play.
It's not real, but we can talk about it and we can have fun with it, but we don't treat it like it's fact.
tim pool
You know what's really fun, is taking the tree out after Christmas, and setting it on fire.
Oh!
We have a fire pit.
And so we break, we cut it down, you put it in the pit, and we get a big fire going, and they go up.
ian crossland
Oh yeah.
unidentified
So it's great.
tim pool
You get this really big fire, everyone sits around, and it's chilly outside, but you know, you sit down, you hang out with friends, and the tree is being recycled back into nature.
ian crossland
Smells good, I imagine.
tim pool
Yeah, it's fantastic.
Oh, yeah, it's great.
It's pretty wild, the pine just... Yeah, it gets so dry, I imagine.
ian crossland
Yeah, it just goes... What a wildfire hazard.
A dry-ass pine tree in your living room with all these lights on it that are getting super hot.
That's ruining many a Christmas, Ian.
danny polishchuck
That's a lot of Christmas disasters.
ian crossland
LED lights, man.
Miraculous.
tim pool
Alright, Ruriko13 says, Ian, the anime called Dr. Stone already has the answers.
You should watch it.
ian crossland
What is it?
tim pool
Uh, basically, a bunch of people get turned to stone, and then this dude somehow turns not to stone, and then he's in a prehistoric, like, civilization's collapsed and everyone's tribal again, but he's a super genius, and so he's, like, building future technology from the ground up.
ian crossland
That's cool.
Yeah.
tim pool
And there's more to it than that, but, you know, basically, that's about it.
unidentified
Man, the Japanese got him under wraps.
tim pool
Yeah, there's a lot of good shows.
It's funny because the American comic book industry and films now are like struggling and failing.
And people are talking about how manga and anime has been taking off because their stories are still based on the hero's journey, whereas American stories are becoming weird, woke narratives of like, you know, steal someone's clothes or something like that.
That's what she did in Captain Marvel.
She stole that guy's clothes.
She was a bully, right?
Yeah, I don't know if I care about that narrative arc.
You're a bad person.
ryan long
The Marvels was one of the most... I went solo on tour, and to be honest, I kind of was hoping it wasn't going to be as bad as people said it was, because I would have liked to take the alternative position and be the guy that... I would have liked to be the guy that was like, honestly, it wasn't that bad, but it was really bad.
And you are right.
This was a new type of story that they invented.
They were like, this is a new type of story that's never been done before.
It's like followed none of the normal things of what like story structure of thousands of years have told you.
tim pool
Yeah, and like I can respect trying new things to a certain degree, you know.
ryan long
But they were already trying new things without the story being kind of different as well.
tim pool
Right, but like the general idea is your story should have at least like a who's the character, what's their conflict, how do they overcome it.
But a lot of these new stories that Disney is doing are just like nothing like that.
ian crossland
Look how hard the badass can punch the wall.
Look how hard they hit it.
ryan long
They're all following the Steven Seagal narrative where it's like he was great already and then he just goes and proves it and then everyone just realizes he was even greater than they thought they were.
tim pool
Have you seen Captain Marvel?
ryan long
No, no, I saw the marvels.
tim pool
The first one is that she has this power within her that's being suppressed by a man, and he keeps- Don't all women- No, no, no, hold on, hold on.
Stop laughing, this is true.
Jude Law keeps telling her to control her emotions because she gets mad, and they put a device- The trick was to not control her emotions?
Yes.
Yes, they put a device on her that holds her power back, and then in the end, she realized she was always powerful, and she stops listening to the man, embraces her emotions, breaks the device, and fires an energy blast at him.
Yeah, for real.
hannah claire brimelow
Terrible advice for women.
tim pool
You should see it!
You'll hate it, but you'll laugh.
ryan long
The secret powers are in your tears.
tim pool
Alright everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com because the members-only show is coming up in a few minutes!
ryan long
But also, can I?
tim pool
Well, you can follow the show at TimCast IRL, you can follow me personally at TimCast.
Ryan, take it away.
ryan long
Ryan Seacrest Obviously the main thing is the Boys cast comes
out on Friday and we even sketch.
Tomorrow.
Tomorrow we do a sketch in every episode and tomorrow's sketch is one of actually our better
ones actually but more importantly if you want to, or less importantly, but Phoenix
I'm going to be next weekend, Denver, Toronto we just opened up another 40 tickets so we
sold out a big theater there, then Dublin, London, Antwerp, Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Oslo,
Stockholm, Paris, Berk, Columbus, Liberty, Dallas, Baltimore, Calgary, Boston, Winnipeg,
Atlanta, San Diego.
So, come out to one of the dates on the tour.
The shows have all been sold out and awesome.
Danny's gonna be there in Toronto, so.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ian crossland
What's the website?
ryan long
RyanLongComedy.com and TheBoysCast is YouTube.com slash TheBoysCast or TheBoysCastEverywhere.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, just follow me on Twitter, at Danny Jokes, and my YouTube page, underscore Danny.
Check it out.
unidentified
Cool.
hannah claire brimelow
It's been fun having you guys here.
I'm glad to see you guys again.
ryan long
Thank you.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
I'm a writer for Scanner, scnr.com.
You guys should all go check it out.
We're really proud of the work we're doing there.
You can still follow at TimCastNews on Instagram and Twitter for updates and to see our work there.
If you want to follow me personally, I'm on Instagram at hannahclaire.b.
I'm on Twitter at hcbrimlow.
I think you should follow at chriscar17.
He's our executive editor, and he is a very cool guy.
I'm very appreciative of all the support he gives me with my work.
Ian, it's fun to have you back.
ian crossland
That is a good idea to follow ChrisCarr17.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, ChrisCarr17.
And then you should tweet at him specifically asking for cocktail recipes because he used to be a bartender.
He used to do a ton of mixed drinks here.
ian crossland
I'm Ian Crossland.
Follow me on the internet anywhere.
Subscribe to me on YouTube where I do...
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It's been badass, man.
I'm really happy to be a part of it.
Like just to be able to elevate great people and to pick their brains is like this next level.
So subscribe on YouTube, Minds, Facebook, X, and Rumble.
That's where it's all going up now.
And I'll catch you there.
I'll catch you there later.
See you later.
serge du preez
Excited for that boys cast as a fan.
ryan long
Hell yeah, dude.
serge du preez
That'll be good.
ryan long
Actually, we have a sketch where Joe Biden went to dinner with all these like trans women.
Did you see it?
danny polishchuck
No, not Joe Biden, the Pope.
tim pool
Oh, right, right, right.
We can pull it up.
ryan long
Well, it doesn't matter, but that's if we have a sketch of it.
unidentified
Anyways, thank you.
serge du preez
Well, yeah, of course.
I'm excited to see that.
Let's get this out of the show.
tim pool
Alright, everybody.
We will see you all over at TimCast.com.
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