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Nov. 28, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool

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Timcast IRL - White Europeans RIOT Over Immigration After CHILDREN Attacked w/Brian Lupo

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Over this past holiday weekend in the past week, it's been pretty wild in Europe.
		We've had some pretty serious stories about children being gravely injured or killed by immigrants.
		In one story, it is quoted as the man saying, we are here to stab white people.
		So there are now, there have been riots in Dublin over this, with Conor McGregor speaking out saying, we are at war.
		And slamming politicians for forcing immigrants into these parts of Ireland.
		You've got a video of Sinn Féin, which is the leftist political party in Ireland, getting heckled.
		And in France, in Lyon, you've got protests in the street, people saying, France, wake up, you're under attack.
		And so it's getting particularly interesting, especially when you consider Geert Wilders winning in Holland.
		And the media reporting is the far right winning.
		But I will say only this before we get started.
		Because we have a lot of other stories too.
		We'll talk domestic stuff.
		I think it's funny that if the majority of the populations of Europe are electing politicians, would they not be the moderate choices that the majority is supporting?
		How could they be the far right if the majority support them?
		They would just be the average, wouldn't they?
		Except to the media, to the press, to the political class, they are in opposition to you and to the majority who are electing these politicians.
		So it's particularly interesting how they're framing it.
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		Joining us tonight to talk about this, and a whole lot more, is Brian Lupo.
unidentified		Thanks for having me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Who are you?
unidentified		What do you do?
		My name is Brian Lupo.
		I'm a writer for the Gateway Pundit.
		I run a couple shows over on Badlands Media on Rumble.
		I go by CanCon on my own podcast, stands for Cannabis Conservative.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You cover a lot of election stuff, a lot of J6er stuff.
unidentified		Yeah, a lot of election, a lot of J6.
		You know, it's skating on thin ice.
		You know, here you don't really ever know what you can say and all that stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		YouTube just gave Crowder two strikes for hosting Dan Bongino.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They really don't.
unidentified		Dan Bongino.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They really don't like Dan.
		But this violates their own policies.
		YouTube claims their policy is you can have people on the show who have been banned so long as they aren't hosting shows.
		Crowder had Bongino on his show as a guest and they gave him a strike over it.
		They're not consistent.
		They're playing politics for sure.
		But anyway, anyway, we'll get into all that stuff.
		Thanks for hanging out.
		It should be fun.
		We got Hannah Clare hanging out.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Hey, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
		I'm a writer for Scanner News now.
		I used to be with TimCast News and we've just evolved.
		You know how it is.
		And we're here, of course, with Libby Emmons.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Hannah-Claire.
		Nice to be here.
		Nice to be here hanging out.
		I'm Libby Emmons.
		I'm the editor-in-chief with the Postmillennial and HumanEvents.com.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		And I am Serge.com.
		I hope you guys had a wonderful Thanksgiving weekend.
		I definitely did.
		Let's get to it, Tim.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This story is wild.
		I'm sure most of you have already heard about the riots happening in Dublin.
		It was several children were stabbed and in critical condition.
		I believe two of the children, I could be wrong, have been released.
		Is it two?
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I don't know of one being released.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		One released, okay.
		So let's start here with a story from, this is from The Independent, aggregated by Yahoo.
		Conor McGregor reacts to Dublin riots after declaring Ireland is at war.
		For this, he is under criminal investigation.
		This is how crazy it is.
		Take a look.
		Conor McGregor said he does not condone the riots in Dublin, but insisted that a change must occur after a knife attack left five people injured, including three children.
		I like how they say five people.
		Just say three children and two adults.
		A five-year-old girl was left in critical condition after an attack in Dublin on Thursday, November 23rd, which led to violent protests in the Irish capital.
		I will add, some of the videos of looting clearly not over immigration.
		It is a bunch of people just smashing and stealing stuff, and they're saying, oh, they're far right.
		No, those guys, that's opportunistic.
		We see that happen all the time.
		But what we are seeing is a lot of the nationalist personalities in Europe pointing out that the indigenous populations of these countries, the white majority and native cities lands, are actually protesting, actually writing.
		It's not just in Dublin.
		We'll get into more details in a minute on France.
		We'll talk about that in another segment.
		But even in France, you had, I believe it was an Algerian immigrant threatening they're here to stab white people and then a teenager was stabbed and killed.
		So now you are getting people pushing back.
		Let me let me add to this.
		I was hanging out with friends this past holiday weekend, and a friend of mine introduced us to a friend who is from Holland, who is like, I would describe as a left-liberal individual out of Europe.
		Who explained that the right is winning because they're all sick of immigration and she went on to explain in her very thick Dutch accent about there are too many people that are coming and they're getting money from the government and people are really fed up and I was like wow.
		Now this is interesting because then Geert Wilders party wins and this is what we're seeing.
		It's fascinating.
		This is crazy.
		Eight years ago, you couldn't say men aren't women on Twitter.
		You would be banned.
		Now we are seeing nationalist politicians winning, more right sentiment.
		You're seeing Donald Trump winning among 18- to 34-year-olds in more than one poll.
		NBC News is kind of pissed off about it.
		But we're seeing a lot of this.
		Now, Conor McGregor has another tweet.
		Let me see if I can pull this one up.
		He tweeted, our current government leader recently told communities across Ireland he is actually not asking them for permission to plant multiple busloads of people in the dead of night inside their community.
		He is instead telling them, well now it seems from below said communities are not going to ask him if they may stop them.
		How do we feel?
		I feel transparency is the answer.
		Full information should be attained and divulged to gain support from the communities of Ireland for this new peculiar procedure That has begun over the course of this year, 2023.
		Without it, fear, panic, unrest.
		Can't we come to our senses here?
		Take a look at this.
		It says, in County Latrim, Irish men and women have set up a checkpoint to prevent asylum seekers from being planted in their town.
		Of course, for this, Irish police are investigating Conor McGregor over his tweets.
		It's getting crazy.
		I don't want to jump too much into it because now we've got more reports that they're passing these draconian hate speech laws to ban this stuff.
		I gotta say, man, Ireland?
		Occupied territory.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Ireland doesn't want your memes anymore.
		Ireland's trying to prevent- that's seriously part of their new laws.
		I mean, one of the issues here is that this is such a tragic- the optics on this are so tragic because not only was it young children, but it's young children being walked to after-school care after departing And all Irish school, meaning they only instruct in the Gaelic language.
		And so this is obviously to the core of Irish culture something they feel like they would want to protect their language and their children.
		I mean, even the stories coming out of it, right?
		I think it was they were saying a Brazilian bike messenger is the one who like ultimately knocked this guy out with his helmet and pinned him to the ground.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Well, it was interesting, too, because there were reports that it was an Algerian immigrant.
		And then immediately, yeah, the BBC and all of these other outlets were like, it wasn't an Algerian immigrant.
		He was an immigrant 20 years ago.
		So he's not that different.
		That's different.
		And it turns out he's never had a job, you know?
		He's been living on the dole the whole time.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		And when you look at that, it's absolutely insane.
		And those hate speech laws, one of the parts of that law, it says, a hate crime is any criminal offense which is perceived by the victim or any other person to have been motivated by prejudice based on a person's age, disability, race, color, nationality, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, or gender.
		So, it's any criminal offense perceived as being motivated.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Which means the government decides regardless.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		It's messed up.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		But do you think this guy who perpetrated this attack would be charged with a hate crime?
unidentified		No, of course not.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're saying that he was mentally deranged or something because he was arrested for illegal knife possession earlier this year and let go because he was like mentally a problem.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Who goes out and stabs children is mentally deranged.
		It's not an excuse for the behavior.
		No, it's not.
		Nor is it an answer to the complaints and the questions of the indigenous population who are concerned about an individual who was actually slated to be deported, fought it, and was able to stay.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		In 2008.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In 2008.
		And then went on to stay in the country.
		Now, I'm not sure that in this... What I don't want to do is take a single anecdote and say, aha, immigration.
		But the issue is, they have not addressed it, they have punished the people who live there, and they have helped foster a very anti-immigration sentiment where all it takes is one story like this, and that's the tinder, that's the spark for the powder keg.
unidentified		My wife and I were in Ireland in 2018, and we were out there for a week, and we spent like three or four days, I think, in Dublin, and we didn't see, like, I didn't see any of this.
		Everybody there was Irish, so I guess this is something that's come up in the last five years or so.
		I know England's got a lot of issues there.
		Settle themselves into their own little isolated burrows and stuff.
		Are they doing the same thing in Ireland?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But this is the... Look, I grew up in Chicago.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You walk around Chicago, you're not getting shot at.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		However, Chicago has more shootings than... I think at one point they called it Chirac, because Chicago had more shooting deaths than Iraq did.
		But any tourist who goes there is like, I don't see anything like this.
		The question is, are you in the neighborhoods?
		And have you witnessed the changes?
		So, when I went to Sweden several years ago, they saw something like a 1,300% increase in murders.
		Now, to someone who doesn't know anything, that sounds terrifying.
		Like 1,300%?
		Yeah, it's because they went from one murder the year before to 13 murders.
		And so, The number is shocking.
		If you're from the United States, you're imagining Baltimore.
		When someone's like, the crime's through the roof, the murders are up a thousand percent, you're like, whoa!
		You're imagining crime in the United States, which is, it can be bad.
		If you're from the United States and you go to Sweden, you're like, wait, your town of 350,000 had only 13 murders?
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's bad, but like, come to the United States.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the percentage just seems cute.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But for the people who live there, that's a lot, they don't have murder.
		And not only that, they're having grenade attacks.
		They had, I think they have the record for grenade attacks in a single year in Sweden.
		And it's because people who aren't from there are coming in, and they're bringing, I believe it was from like, What war was it?
		It's been so long since I covered this.
		There were leftover weapons used in war and the gangs got easy access to them and started using them against each other.
		So there was an eight-year-old British tourist, I think, was killed in a grenade attack or something like that around the time I had shown up.
		So the point is, if your country is a sleepy, peaceful country with no murder, and they open their doors to immigration, murder skyrockets, People are going to protest.
		And the media manipulation and the lies from government officials, I mean, it only lasts so long.
		The censorship, the manipulation, social media censorship, it's only so long until people just snap and say no way.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		And I think, especially with Ireland, the UK's, the way the UK treated their asylum seekers ultimately creeps in, even if they potentially didn't want it.
		So five years ago, maybe they fought it harder.
		But Northern Ireland, which is obviously in the same physical land as Ireland, even though it's part of the UK, the number one baby name in Galway was Muhammad in 2022.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		And so people were shocked by that.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		People were completely shocked.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		They were like, oh, it's Liam.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		No!
unidentified		In fact, not!
unidentified		Jack?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Patrick?
unidentified		Well, the average size of their family is significantly bigger than anybody in Europe, I mean... Right, which is crazy when you consider the Irish Catholics, like, they had big families.
		Well, now it's down to, like, one point... I think Europe, like, averages, like, 1.5 children per family, and, like, I think anything less than 1.7, it's unsustainable.
		Ultimately, issues with immigration... Is it two?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, if two people only make one kid... That's a good point.
unidentified		There you go.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I think the thing is ultimately immigration issues are a long-term negative investment, right?
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Like opening your doors to some immigration, a lot of countries start with like, oh we're a sleepy town, we can offer stuff, we're wealthy, and then ultimately they don't see the investment or they don't see the implications of what they are investing in long term, which is that bringing someone into your country because you believe they're seeking asylum might be an honorable thing to do, but acclimating someone to your culture and to everything that comes with being a citizen is a long-term And I don't think that mass immigration is a sustainable way to do that, ultimately.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I think that's a big part of the problem, what you just hit on, is, you know, in the U.S.
		we had a lot of immigration in the 20th century.
		We've had that repeatedly.
		But the immigrants who came in the 20th century, in the early 20th century, 1920s, whenever, all of that Ellis Island type of stuff.
		They wanted to assimilate.
		They wanted to become American.
		You know, I've talked about this before, like, my grandparents, my great grandparents, they wanted to be American.
		They wanted their kids to be American.
		They pushed English on them, you know.
		My grandparents both changed, my Italian grandparents changed their names to be more American sounding.
		My grandmother went from Anna to Anne.
		She was like, I'm just Anne now.
		Okay.
		You know, but now we have this thing where we tell everybody that American culture is trash and they shouldn't want to be part of it and they should bring their own culture and maintain that.
		And it's like, once we've given up our own culture and said that it's garbage, why would we expect anyone else to want to be part of it?
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Well, Denver just... I was just reading this report today that Denver is trying to make it so they're encouraging students who have immigrated here to continue to speak their own language and not to learn English.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Wow!
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That's so dumb!
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That's just so stupid!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was hanging out with family for the holidays and my girlfriend's very based grandmother We were looking at photos of, you know, her parents came from Italy, and she's 90.
		This is crazy, crazy.
		It's amazing to see these old photos and hear these stories.
		And she said that her parents never taught her Italian.
		And so she comes, her parents come here, she's born here, and she said, I wish they did teach me Italian, but they said, we're in America, we will speak English.
		And she said they spoke broken English, but they tried their hardest to learn the language and work in the communities and make a good life.
		And that's what they did.
		Now they have a bunch of great kids and a big, big family, and it's crazy to see the expansion of the family tree.
		But I feel like, especially for, you know, the elements of my family that were immigrants, same thing.
		Come to America, learn the language, fit in, try your best.
		Even when back then it's hard for, you know, my family because of the laws around miscegenation.
		Mixed race families are not allowed and stuff like that.
		For white Europeans it's a bit easier, but even still the attempt was we have to do our best to fit in.
		We have to be a part of this as a success.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		And we're investing in this experiment, right?
		We want to be a part of growing this nation and our way of contributing to that is to be a part of the culture and actively have our children participate and carry that forward.
		And that's not the way it works now.
		And that's the strange thing.
		We'll get progressives saying, no, we should let immigrant enclaves live this way and maintain their culture because we're allowing American culture to die out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to jump to this story.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is from OpIndia.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		They want it to die out.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Here's a story from OpIndia.
		Washington Post and BBC falsely claim the Dublin attacker was not an immigrant.
		Here is the truth.
		I love this.
		They got community noted.
		The Washington Post tweets, Online rumors claim the perpetrator of a stabbing attack was an immigrant.
		The BBC found the man was an Irish citizen who had lived in the country for 20 years.
		Police blamed a lunatic faction driven by a far-right ideology for the riot in Dublin.
		And then here's the fact check.
		The man is indeed an immigrant, as he was originally from Algeria.
		The Washington Post segment appears to conflate citizenship with not being an immigrant, and you can be both.
		That's amazing.
unidentified		So are they blaming this on the far right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Are they saying that he was far right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, so Carl Benjamin actually tweeted out something, an anecdote, where someone said an old lady was talking about, you know, a guy mentioned going to Ireland, said, did you hear about the riots?
		He said no.
		And the woman said it was something having the far right stab someone or something like that.
		This is what the media wants to happen.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's why they're lying about this person being an immigrant.
		This is it.
		Activists, I think it's simply put, many of these media organizations have activists who work there.
		The reason why the mainstream corporate press is claiming that Geert Wilders and other politicians are far right is because they are actually far left.
		If the majority of the population is voting for a dude Then that's the median, right?
		Or not necessarily the median, but that is the plurality or the majority.
		That is where most people see their views.
		So that's not far anything that is right-leaning, right?
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		But it seems far to them because they think they are the truth over here on the super far left.
unidentified		And so the middle doesn't seem... They lie, cheat, and steal.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And this is another element of it.
		It's laughable.
		It was clearly an immigrant who did this.
		We can argue whether or not this single anecdote exemplifies the entire issue of immigration.
		I don't think so.
		I think it's a data point.
		But I do think people are right to be upset when their government refuses to listen to them.
		And then the media lies, just like this, to trick people.
		and some people fall for it.
unidentified		Well, then you have to put the far right moniker on it so that then you can justify the censorship
		and everything else that's going to come as a result. We had the woman in the Irish parliament,
		was that recently, talking about taking away your rights?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		It was in June, yeah.
unidentified		Yeah, you have your rights.
		Well, now you got Conor McGregor being investigated for saying we're at war, which by the way, that's happening here.
		That's happening here in the United States.
		Douglas Mackey is locked up over a tweet, you know, from 2016.
		My co-host on Badlands, on SitRep, he had the FBI raid his house.
		Three weeks after January 6th, over a tweet.
		He was not in D.C.
		on January 6th.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		What was his tweet?
unidentified		We are at war.
		And the worst part is, in the warrant, if you look two, it was like a thread, if you look two tweets up, he says we're in an information war.
		And they isolated that one tweet and said, we're in a war, rolled up with Bearcats and up-armored vehicles at 6 a.m.
		to wake up the whole neighborhood, threw a flashbang out there, went into his house, raided his house, found that he, you know, they took whatever they want, the FBI.
		Then they called in the local sheriff and they arrested him because he had a gun safe with an AR-15 in it.
		He was a cop.
		He was a cop in California.
		But because he was temporarily suspended while there was an investigation, I guess he wasn't technically supposed to have that, so he was arrested and he's still fighting them to this day.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That's insane.
unidentified		Yes, over a tweet.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that happens in the UK all the time.
		Moms have been investigated or arrested, handcuffed in front of their kids for having posted that women aren't men.
		That's happened repeatedly.
		You've had a situation recently where a British guy had posted a video talking about all the Palestinian flags up and down the high street and saying that he doesn't like it.
		And police showed up and they dragged him off in handcuffs.
		And you had people screaming out to the neighbors, they're taking him!
		They're taking him in for a tweet.
		They're taking him in because he doesn't like the flags down the block.
		That's just madness.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Where was that?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That was in the UK.
		That was in London.
		That was in London.
		You know how they've had all those protests and there were all these Palestinian flags?
		He posted a video on Facebook that was like, what is all this doing here?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What about Tommy Robinson?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you guys see what happened to him over the past weekend?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		He got arrested for no reason.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's sitting in a cafe eating breakfast and they come and they say, you have to leave or else.
		And it's actually funny because he basically says, okay, pay for my breakfast and they go, no.
		And I'm like, I actually kind of think that's a reasonable position.
		He should not have to leave.
		Tommy should be like, bro, you're gonna have to arrest me.
		And he kind of did say that, but then eventually he goes, okay, pay me back for my breakfast.
		And I'm like...
		He's essentially saying, fine, I'll leave.
		Give me my money back.
		And they're like, we won't do it.
		They won't even do that.
		I did think it was funny that in the end, Tommy was actually being reasonable to their demands when he didn't have to be.
		But they said, you are, what did they say?
		That you're causing the potential for alarm or distress.
		So therefore you're not, he's in London.
		And they said, by order of the city of London, which is, I believe it's separate from London to some degree.
		It's like in the middle.
		And it's got different police or something.
		And they're like, you have to leave or else.
		And it was an anti-Semitism march and the police arrested him and pepper sprayed him while he was sitting in a restaurant waiting for his breakfast.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Well, and the articles that came out about it indicated that he was anti-Semitic.
		And he was at the march, like, opposing antisemitism, covering it, and there were some 50 cops or whatever surrounding him to get him out of there.
		Meanwhile, like, there's been vandalism, there's been people climbing up on statues, there's been all kinds of mayhem, and those people are just let to go by, you know?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's talk about how they're going after the memes.
		So Nate Hockman tweets, the hate speech law that Ireland is preparing to pass is arguably the most radical legislation of its kind we've seen in the West.
		It criminalizes the mere possession of materials that, quote, are likely to incite violence or hatred.
		Books, videos, or even memes on your phone.
		Look at this.
		This is amazing.
		Offense of preparing or possessing material likely to incite violence or hatred against persons on account of their protected characteristics.
		They say, let's see, a subject.
		A subject says blah blah blah.
		A person shall be guilty.
		Prepares or possesses material that is likely to incite violence or hatred against a person or group or person on account of their protected characteristics or any of those characteristics with a view to the material being communicated to the public or a section of the public whether by himself or himself blah blah blah.
		Prepares or possesses such material with intent to incite violence.
		We get it.
		We get it.
		You get it.
		Being reckless as to whether it's violence or hatred is thereby incited.
		Yes, they're basically saying memes.
		If you, theoretically, if you have Netflix on your phone, I'm sorry, Dave Chappelle made racial jokes.
		And for that, you're under arrest.
		I mean, this is it.
		Part of me is actually excited for this, I'll be honest.
		Because the line can only go so far until it goes off the edge.
		And then there's no line anymore.
		So they keep pushing and pushing and pushing and then it's gone.
		And everyone's just standing around like, okay, there's no rules anymore.
		For instance, like this for instance, basically is saying, if you have on your phone a video of Dave Chappelle doing his standard routine where he makes fun of Chinese people, Well, that's it.
		You're going to jail.
		But this is Netflix!
		This is mainstream, international, top-tier comedy.
		It doesn't matter.
		In New York, they just banned discrimination.
		They signed into law discrimination on the basis of weight and height.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That's insane, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This means that a 600-pound, morbidly obese person can apply to work for a government position, or let's say Starbucks.
		And then they, let's say they apply online.
		Then the Starbucks says, come in for an interview.
		Well, that person can't move of their own power.
		So they have a crane, bring them to the Starbucks and they can't get in the building.
		And then they say, this is discrimination based on my weight.
		When we look back at architecture, it's going to be a crazy time.
		for the interview. So Starbucks, all these businesses are going to have to tear, they're
		gonna have to remodel all their stores to have double doors to accommodate the massive
		and morbidly obese. The line only goes so far until it falls off the edge.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		When we look back at architecture, it's going to be a crazy time. That's when the double
		doors come back. I mean, this is such a disturbing way of phrasing it because this idea of likely
		to incite violence or hatred is determined by the government.
		So what does the government decide is likely?
		Like, there are all kinds of things I don't like that I'm sure the government is for.
		And so we know there's automatically a double standard for what materials are okay and what aren't.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All that really matters is culture.
		You know, when we have the First Amendment in this country, you would still be arrested for obscenity.
		So, like George Carlin, for instance, the seven words you can't say on TV, he gets arrested for it.
		Yeah, so even though we have the First Amendment, back then, it didn't matter.
		Our culture did not allow it, regardless of what the Constitution said.
		So we talk a lot about the Constitution and the rights it guarantees, but let's be honest, they didn't really guarantee a whole lot until we started enforcing them and having the courts rule to enshrine these protections and set this precedent.
		So, when we're looking at these bans, all that really matters, the government will decide whether or not you go to jail.
		That's it.
		They're basically, the law should say, We as the government can decide to arrest you for any reason and lock up if we want.
		That's basically what the law says.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Did you see that in the fat, in the no more discriminating against fat people in New York, the person who brought the bill, Sean Abreu, was inspired to bring the bill because he gained weight during COVID and thought people looked at him weird after.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, really?
		No, yes.
		So he sued the government on what standing?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		He didn't sue the government, he brought the bill.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		He's a city councilman.
unidentified		Oh, I see, I see.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		He was inspired to bring the bill after gaining weight during the pandemic and noticing people didn't treat him the same afterwards.
		And he said, it's also about changing the culture and how we think about weight.
		I love that, it's hilarious.
		Yeah, when it was brought up before city council and people were arguing in favor of it, an NYU student said the desks were too small and this was a reason to not discriminate.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		How much weight did this guy gain?
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I need to know.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Well, I was looking for pictures of him and he looks pretty normal.
		And the bill, of course, was backed by the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance.
		And the chair of that group said, this is such a powerful moment for anyone who has ever faced discrimination simply because of the size of their body.
		Someone else said that they felt pressured to develop an eating disorder.
		And so this was a reason to bring the... Is that the same thing as dieting?
		I don't have any idea.
unidentified		Didn't New York pass a law, or attempt to pass a law, like, I don't know, probably seven or eight years ago, banning, like, certain size beverages?
		Like, you couldn't get- That was Bloomberg, yeah.
		Yeah.
		No more super-sizing.
		How did we go from that to now where we're at with this?
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		That's just a- The soda company sued to be like, no, that's discrimination against the size of our cups.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		You can't do that here.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Well, and also you had Michelle Obama was very, like, pro-fitness, and now isn't she just ableist?
unidentified		Well I mean the pro fitness was like giving kids like high fructose like just loaded down like grape sodas and stuff well drinks uh juice that was loaded with sugar I mean it was it was it was pretty awful.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah the funny thing too is Eric Adams who backed this bill about you know no discriminating against fat people he's vegan and he He pushed a plant-based diet in New York City schools for Fridays, although there's no like meat in Fridays.
		And my son would be like, because we used to live in Brooklyn, and my son would be like, oh, it's Friday.
		It's going to be terrible lunch today.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's no meat in school on Fridays?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was a vegan thing.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Eric Adams was pushing a plant-based diet.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I went to Catholic school, we did that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right, I'm like, is this a Catholic thing?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		No, it wasn't.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		It was an Eric Adams thing.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Because for a while they were pushing, a lot of places pushed Meatless Mondays because they're saying if you eat less meat it's good for the environment and whatever else, but Eric Adams is like sort of an evangelist.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		He's a super vegan evangelist.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Because he thinks it cured his diabetes.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		He had some very serious health concerns and was like, this changed my life.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		He wrote a whole book about how he lost 35 entire pounds.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Well, he shouldn't brag about that.
		He had an eating disorder.
		It's different.
unidentified		He's got his plate pretty full right now, Eric Adams.
unidentified		The boomerang of his bill that they used to go after Donald Trump It literally boomeranged on the very last day, I think it was, came back at him, and I mean, that guy's just in a world of hurt.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Someone's demanding $5 million on that.
		They're investigating him over allegations he took bad money from Turkey.
		The thing about the Turkey, though, is he was heading down to D.C.
		to give Biden what for on immigration, and he literally had to turn that Acela around and head back to New York because his campaign person, her home was raided by the FBI.
		I don't think that that was a coincidence.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Eric Adams, who has angered the Biden administration by saying we need help and angered every borough around him by busing migrants to them.
		He's like the most unpopular mayor in America.
		I don't know how he couldn't be.
		He's pushing veganism in everything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to go back to this.
		I want to talk about Tommy Robinson.
		We have this from Sky News.
		Tommy Robinson charged after arrest at anti-Semitism march The 40-year-old, and I love how they do this, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley Lennon, was arrested in London on Sunday.
		I don't know why it's relevant, but they do that a lot, and I think they do it because they're attacking him, they're attacking his family.
		In one of the videos from the protest, the cops demand his address, and he gets pissed, and he's like, with all of these cameras and all these people standing around me, you think I'm gonna give you my address?
		Put my family in danger?
		Here's the news.
		Activist Tommy Robinson has been charged after attending Sunday's march against anti-Semitism in London.
		The 40-year-old former leader of the far-right English Defence League, they say, was arrested at the event for failing to comply with a direction to disperse.
		Let's just be clear.
		Get your money and get out.
		I mean, what if he was just like, can I take my breakfast to go?
		I bet they still would have said no.
		Organizers had warned him he would not be welcome at the march held in central London after he signals his intention to attend.
		In an update on Monday, the Metropolitan Police said Stephen Lennon of Bedfordshire has been charged with failing to comply with a section 35 direction excluding a person from an area.
		He has been bailed to appear at Westminster Magistrates Court on 22nd January.
		The Met said he told officers he was at the march in his capacity as a journalist.
		60,000 people took part in the event.
		This is the state of the UK right now.
		That if you are an activist or a media personality, they will just straight kick you out.
		They will arrest you for your speech.
		They will lie.
		They will make up reasons to shut you down.
		There are so many stories about what a speaker's corner, the famous place where people would stand and speak.
		Now they'll get arrested.
		Only acceptable government opinions.
		And the worst thing is, look at how the police behave.
		I gotta be honest.
		I watch this and I'm like, I totally understand the founding fathers.
unidentified		I will never forget the video of the police going in and raiding the house and pulling out the autistic girl.
		Did you guys see that?
		The teenage girl that, like, called, like, somebody a lesbian or something like that.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		She did not even do that.
		She didn't even do that.
		She basically said, I think she's, like, grand.
		Her grandmother is a lesbian.
unidentified		And, like, this girl, I mean, I think they said she had scoliosis and they're dragging her out.
		This teenage girl!
		Autistic, scoliosis, yeah.
		Can you imagine what it must be like to be the cop that was called a lesbian and just, like, sit there?
		Like, that's evil.
		To look at this girl that you're saying she's autistic and you're just sitting there like, yeah, I got you.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		She does look like a lesbian.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Like, what's the big deal?
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Is she implying something bad?
		She's like, oh, she's like Gran.
		Like, does that have to be negative?
unidentified		Does that have to be an insult?
		I mean, there's a million different words she could have used that would have been far more inappropriate.
		But like, if we can't use lesbian, what do we use?
		It was a hate offense.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's the point.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The police said by saying it, it was a hate offense.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		But again, does that imply she hates her grandmother and then it was a hate offense?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, it implies the government is allowed to say whether you'll be arrested and for whatever reason.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that's it.
		And that happened a time ago.
		It's funny because we're talking just a moment ago about Ireland wanting to pass this law where if you possess things that may incite, that means they're going to walk up to you and say, give me your phone.
		And they're going to open Twitter and they're going to see a picture on Twitter and be like, oh, this is on your phone.
		And they're going to say something like, when I inspected the defendant's phone, I saw images of racist content that I believe were on his device.
		And then you can argue in court.
		He pulled up Twitter and he was looking through posts and someone retweeted something.
		I had no control over it.
		They're going to be like, so you admit it.
		You had it on your phone.
		They're just going to the side.
		It was the UK where they arrested this woman?
		Yeah, it was night police.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		This is just like Kafka.
		I mean, it's just like the trial.
unidentified		Well, they tried to do that.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I won Kafka reference tonight.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I will give you more if you want.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		That's my favorite part of you being Being on the show.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		The thing about in the trial, so this guy, Kay, he gets home and there's, you know, police rummaging around in his room and taking his stuff and searching his stuff.
		And mostly what ends up happening is he's really, really ashamed.
		He gets arrested.
		People are looking at him.
		Nobody will tell him what he did wrong.
		You know, he can never get a reasonable answer of what he did wrong.
		And finally, he just gets the runaround by the courts and everything.
		And eventually they just kill him in the street and he's grateful.
unidentified		Well, the Harrison Floyd, the Trump case in Fulton County, when they tried to revoke his bond, they did the same thing.
		They were reading tweets that Harrison Floyd put up and they would go, Fannie Willis would go and actually read the responses and be like, see, look what this incited.
		And it's like just some rando with like three followers that said like, oh, it's probably her.
		That's what I'm saying, like, at that point, if that's going to be admissible, to try and revoke somebody's bond and put them in a prison where twelve people or whatever it is have died there in the last, you know, year and a half.
		Four people.
		One guy died of bed bug bites.
		If you're going to revoke somebody's bond because of what other people are saying on Twitter in response to what you say, And so not only do you have to censor yourself, but you have to think about how others are going to react to what you say?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy!
		Well, that's the Solzhenitsyn, right?
		That's the Gulag archipelago, is you get arrested, they don't tell you what you did wrong, they don't tell you why you're there, they get you to say stuff, maybe mentioning past colleagues, then past colleagues get dragged in, arrested, not told what they did wrong, and it's really just because you're associated.
		That happened all through, you know, that whole period.
		And behind the Iron Curtain.
		It's insane.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I think it happens here, too.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		And now it's happening here.
		I think part of what's going on is we just don't believe that this can happen in America.
		It's shocking to believe that this can happen in America.
		It's shocking to believe that, you know, our rights can just be trampled like this.
		We don't believe that it's possible.
		And I think that that is a little bit of a naivete.
		And I think that is an overconfidence in our position.
		Um, and it's getting in our way of seeing what's being done to, to our country.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think we're winning though, right?
		I can't speak for the UK or for Ireland, but I do see, you know, in Holland, Geert Wilders' party wins and they're, they're saying, you know, big things coming.
		Javier Mele wins in Argentina and he has vowed to, uh, he said it is non-negotiable.
		They're shutting down the central bank.
		That is crazy.
		You know, what's funny is, Whenever I mention that to people, I'm like, oh, did you see that the new Argentinian president put out a statement saying the closure of the central bank is non-negotiable?
		Everybody says, in a manner of speaking, they fear for his well-being.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, they probably should.
		James Lindsay was posting about that.
		He was like, and soon there will be major crises in Argentina that were just unforeseen.
		Yeah.
		How could this happen?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But anyway, my point is, I think we're winning, right?
		Especially as it pertains to speech.
		Danny Palachuk made the point last week, I think it was last week, where he's like, as soon as Elon bought Twitter, everybody went, men aren't women.
		It's like everybody was finally allowed to say it and everyone just went off like... That was awesome.
		But isn't it absolutely insane to look back and be like, did you know that on one of the major social media platforms you were not allowed to say men aren't women?
		You would be banned, like Megan Murphy was.
		So, that being said, we had some pretty dark and creepy days, but we're clawing back.
		I think we've been winning.
		That doesn't mean we have the majority.
		It doesn't mean we're going to win.
		It means we have been consistently gaining ground.
		You've got the Daily Wire just part of the trailer for that new movie they're doing, Lady Ballers.
		It looks hilarious.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I can't wait to see it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's out on Friday, and it's a comedy movie about men who decide to identify as women to play on a bunch of sporting teams and win a bunch of money, and it's funny.
		So I just think with things like this, the culture is being clawed back.
		I'll also do a shout-out.
		We did the Culture War podcast, pre-recorded, went up last Friday with Richie Jackson, a professional skateboarder, and I'm getting messages from tons of pro skateboarders who are like, we agree, right?
		The woke people who are coming into these sporting events, who are coming into video games, they don't know about the culture, they don't care about the culture, they actually actively despise the culture of various industries, they want to destroy it.
		And now they're losing.
		More people are speaking up.
		More people are saying, dude, I just don't care.
		I want to just read my comic books.
		I just want to play video games.
		I just want to skate.
		I think it's funny that during Gamergate, the meme was, we just wanted to play video games.
		And now what I hear from skateboarders, as wokeness is causing problems in skateboarding, it's, dude, we just want to skate.
		So when more and more people start speaking up, I just see, I think we're winning.
		You look at Joe Biden's failure, you look how bad he's doing.
		I think we're winning.
		So I'm having a good time.
		You know, it's a long road ahead of us.
		2024 is gonna be wild AF, but it is what it is.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think people are frustrated because this idea of like, oh, we'll let you live how you want to live and everything will be okay has obviously not turned out to be the other side's thought.
		They want to be the dominant culture in every sphere they enter.
		And if you have something you love, like skateboarding or whatever niche culture you're into, to know that ultimately you're going to have to dismantle it to accommodate this major theology of, you know, wokeness and whatever else.
		It's sort of, you either need to decide to protect it or you're going to lose it.
		And I think we're seeing this replicated in culture, in geopolitics, everywhere right now.
		It's sort of a make or break moment, if you will.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		It is.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Could we be at an inflection point?
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Possibly.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Potentially.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that what we keep hearing from Joe Biden?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That we're in an inflection point?
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I can't believe he can probably run.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Hopefully it inflections him right out of it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Doesn't matter for him.
		He can't run.
		He can't be the nominee.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		He can barely walk.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I mean, come on.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		The stairs are his mortal enemy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The most likely scenario is at the convention.
		When is the convention?
		Is it going to be in... May.
unidentified		Right?
unidentified		I think it's in May.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're talking five months, six months.
unidentified		The audition is on Thursday.
		The audition is on Thursday.
		It's DeSantis, Newsom.
		And I hate saying this because I'm a Floridian.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Where are they doing it?
unidentified		Georgia?
		I don't know where, but Hannity's hosting it.
		He's moderating it, maybe.
		I mean, DeSantis is an awful, awful debater.
		He has no personality.
		I mean, he's getting smeared with the high heels and, you know, whatever he's doing.
		I mean, look, he did a pretty good job in Florida overall.
		I mean, we did have lockdowns during COVID.
		It wasn't, you know, what everybody said.
		My wife was out of work for like seven or eight months where she wasn't allowed to work.
		Kind of let the counties deal with it on their own.
		As much as this pains me to say, Gavin Newsom is a charismatic dude that is going to suave his way through this debate, and DeSantis is just going to be stumbling all over himself.
		I think this is the audition, and Newsom comes out looking like a polished turd, to be honest with you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But that means the only thing they can do is decree him the nominee.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There will not be a primary.
		He's not going to be on the ballot.
		People aren't going to vote for him.
		The convention's going to happen.
		They're going to say, all in favor of just having Gavin Newsom be the nominee, aye.
		And then everyone's going to be like, I didn't vote for this guy.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		But what I'm saying is- He's terrible and he's done terrible things to California.
unidentified		Absolutely.
		But what I'm saying is this debate with DeSantis is going to be that kind of put his, like, look, everybody's talking about it.
		I mean, Vivek said it in the last debate, just tell us who your candidate is going to be.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		It's to formally introduce the idea that he is the heir apparent.
unidentified		It's going to put him on that map.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I think you're right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I really think the establishment wanted it to be Ron DeSantis versus Newsom.
		The powerful donor class were getting way behind DeSantis, but these people are bad at what they do.
		That's just really it.
		Isn't it crazy how long it's been since 2015 when Donald Trump announces... What day was it?
		It was in 2015.
		Trump announces he's running.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		It comes down the... It was one of his grandchildren's birthday.
		I remember Don Jr.
		said that when he's here.
		I'll look it up.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And so it's been almost 10 years.
		It's been 8 years.
		We're going into 2024.
		It's going to be almost a decade since that happened.
		That's wild!
unidentified		Yep.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		June 16th, 2015.
unidentified		Yeah, June 16th.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It'll be nine years.
unidentified		I can't for the life of me figure out, like, whoever advised Ron DeSantis it was a good idea to run in 2024 against Donald Trump, I mean, Donald Trump is, he is a once-in-a-lifetime personality, period.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		But people didn't, people weren't sure if he had the steam, if it was still there.
unidentified		Oh, he had the steam.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I mean, but his announcement, I mean, Trump, Trump is really interesting.
		He is definitely the center of everything right now.
		But I remember his announcement at Mar-a-Lago feeling a little bit lackluster.
		There were a couple moments.
		And then his town hall was just incredible.
		I mean, him pulling out the notes.
		He was so engaged with the crowd.
		There was a reason CNN was so angry about that town hall.
		But there was a moment, I think we have to acknowledge, there was a moment where people were like, does he have it?
		He had bad advisors last time.
		And I think you're right, DeSantis got bad advice, but there was a reason they were able to sell it to him.
		Because he had a bright future ahead of him, although he's term limited as governor, right?
unidentified		It's so bad I almost think it's an op.
		I know I hate saying that.
		I almost think it's an op.
		Like, all the donors that flock to DeSantis, all right, you've got your neocons, you've got ConInk, you know, whatever you want to call it.
		And, you know, I don't know.
		That's the only explanation I can think of that makes sense.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		My conspiracy theory is that everybody was saying Trump-DeSantis.
		It was an unbeatable ticket.
		People who hated Trump would be willing to vote because DeSantis is like a good, he's a good governor and he did a good job.
		And so the powers that be say, planning ahead.
		How do we beat a Trump-DeSantis?
		It's not just Trump.
		Right?
		Trump-Pence.
		Trump tried to find that balancing factor of the stodgy traditional politician.
		Who's he going to find?
		They said, it's going to be DeSantis.
		And this dude's pulling through the roof.
		He's getting massive votes.
		He's turned Florida into a solid red state.
		It's going to be Trump-DeSantis and we will lose no matter what we do, no matter who he swaps it.
		And DeSantis goes, wow, I can be president.
		And they're like, yeah, you'll lead the great American.
		Why they attack people so relentlessly?
		For no reason.
		And I'm like, this was the point.
		Make it impossible for Trump supporters to get behind DeSantis.
		So now you send your PR team to attack anybody who supports Trump so that there will never be a possibility of a Trump-DeSantis ticket.
		And now who's Trump gonna have for VP?
		Tucker?
		That also I think may be unbeatable as well.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I think that would be unbeatable.
		I think that would be really pretty outstanding.
		And it would work for Tucker.
		Tucker could still do his show because the VP doesn't really do anything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Trump mentioned Tucker would be great, and then was seen a few days later with Tucker at Madison Square Garden.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That was awesome.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I loved that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		See, I think we're winning.
		I'm having a good time.
		How are you guys doing?
unidentified		I'm loving it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right?
unidentified		I'm loving it.
		I'm just waiting on all these boomerangs to come back.
		I mean, everything that they're doing right now is going to come back on them.
		The classified documents case, Joe Biden did that.
		Now we're expecting Robert Herr's report to come out and say, oh, you know, Joe Biden had tons of classified documents, but we don't think he should be indicted for it.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		It's okay when he does it.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		They don't think he should be indicted for it.
		They don't think it should be anything at all.
		There was actually emails revealed that showed that National Archives said, hey, just go get those documents.
		Don't say anything about it.
		Be super discreet about this.
		And then with Trump, they drag in the FBI.
		They alert Secret Service, you know, Trump's out of the building.
		They swore him in.
		It's just insane how he's been treated in all of these cases.
		You and I were talking before the show about what's going on in the Jan 6th case and how Trump's attorneys recently filed a motion.
		What was it?
unidentified		And the motion was like... To reveal all the FBI agents that were in the crowd or feds.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Feds.
		Anybody who was associated with the DOJ in the Capitol, near the Capitol, who was part of that whole thing.
		And I think that's really going to show what was happening then.
		You know, I think it's going to reveal that there were feds inciting at January 6th, like we thought all along.
unidentified		There's a lot of interesting stuff going on with that.
		I mean, he's got a motion to stop from the destruction of classified documents that reveal foreign interference in the 2016 and 2020 election.
		I mean, that is huge.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		They're trying to destroy those documents?
unidentified		I can read the motion directly, but it's along those lines.
		But basically, it's acknowledging that, hey, there's classified documents relating to foreign interference in the 2020 and 2016 election.
		I mean, you can't possibly think that, you know, in 2018, he writes Executive Order 13848, which is, you know, stopping foreign interference, you know, giving an out for them to Seize whatever they need to you can't possibly think that he watched this and and nothing came about from it I you know, I don't know.
		I I think he was well aware in 2020 and he just had to he just had to Say screw it.
		We're going forward if I if Trump would have turned around in 2020 And if he does have foreign interference, if he would have put that out then, I mean, it would have been tyranny, authoritarian, Hitler.
		Like he's just trying to stay a banana republic.
		Like they would have thrown everything they can at him.
		And so he just said, you know what?
		Screw it.
		Let's go to 2024.
		I'll win in 2024.
		They'll come after me.
		I didn't think it would be like this, but I don't know.
		The boomerang's coming back.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I hope it does.
		I hope it does.
		That'll be, it's sort of fun to watch.
		Sort of fun to watch from like being far away from everything too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, the way I describe it is, if we're watching a football game, I'm not saying we're past the 50-yard line heading towards the end zone.
		We could be at the 30-yard line, but we've been gaining yards is the point.
		We've been gradually making progress after a wonderful and masterfully performed interception, and now we're moving in the other direction.
		I don't know anything about football, so spare me.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		No, I thought that was pretty good.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I also don't know anything about football.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so we're both two people completely clueless about football.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		People listening are like, oh, they're so wrong.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		No, they think we're right.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		They think we're good at this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're heading to their red zone, baby.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we're going to score the goals and all the stuff.
		No, I think you're right.
		And I think that makes the American people hopeful.
		I think that's what you have to pay attention to, is that people are engaged and are frustrated and are willing to do something about it in a way I feel like they haven't been in a really long time.
		They weren't even in 2020.
		That is too bad, we sort of missed the mark on that one, but now they are suffering the consequences of their inaction and hopefully they're motivated to do something.
unidentified		Just to be clear, it says the motion is a notice, excuse me, notice and objection to unauthorized deletions of classified information.
		And it says President Trump will offer classified information at trial relating to foreign interference activities that impeded the 2016 and 2020 elections, as well as efforts by administrations to combat those activities.
		President Trump will also present classified information relating to the biased and politicized nature of the intelligence assessments that he and others rejected during the events in question.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Fascinating.
unidentified		And apparently I guess they were trying to destroy that.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I feel like the discovery in the Trump case is really there's going to be so much.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		And that's why they're they're slapping these gag orders on so that nobody can talk about what's in the evidence.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Even though that should be made very available to people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think the judges will give fair discovery processes.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I think Cannon is.
		Cannon seems to be doing a pretty good job in the Florida seized documents case, as we've been calling it.
		And she was a, I think she was a Trump appointee, and she was like, no, DOJ, we can't have this underway in December, you lunatics.
		It's millions of pages of documents.
		So she's pushed that back.
		She has like a normal trial schedule for that one.
		So we'll see where that goes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think New York's gonna be a bit different.
		I think Georgia's gonna be very different.
		We were talking about this before the show.
		All the people pleading guilty, that's what they're going for.
		They're going for public record.
		You mentioned Trump is appealing in Colorado, despite the fact that he won, because the courts ruled that he did wage insurrection.
		And this is the plan.
		You don't get Trump knocked off the primaries, you get him knocked off the general.
		So one by one, each state is an opportunity to get precedence, at least in these states, that Trump did wage insurrection.
		And then they can say, well, look at this, look at this.
		I don't know if that'll fly at the state level, but at the federal level.
		You see, one of the questions, I think it was Minnesota, was the states don't have the right to determine eligibility, only the federal government, therefore this lawsuit must be federal.
		You get a bunch of states to rule Trump waged insurrection, then they suit the federal government level and say these states have determined Trump did wage insurrection, therefore he should be removed.
unidentified		Well, I mean, there's the question of whether the 14th Amendment even applies to the president.
		It doesn't.
		Well, so I know Kash Patel says that it does, and I trust his legal opinion.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He said it does.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		It does.
unidentified		No, I thought he said the 14th Amendment, it doesn't mention the office of the president.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right, you said Kash Patel says it thinks it does.
unidentified		No.
		Oh, excuse me.
		I'm sorry.
		I'm sorry.
		I apologize.
		It doesn't.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		It does say, I think it says the executive offices.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It says officer of the United States.
unidentified		Yeah.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		So wasn't it trying to just keep, I mean, it was basically trying to keep Jefferson Davies and all those guys off the ballot.
unidentified		Exactly.
		Exactly.
		But he hasn't been, he hasn't been charged with it.
		He hasn't been charged with insurrection.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Not in any of the cases, not in a single one.
unidentified		So you think that a 6-3 Supreme Court is going to rule to keep him off the ballot?
unidentified		I mean, I don't see that happening.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I see a single state deciding that Trump is ineligible due to these rulings, therefore, and they just remove him.
		And then Trump sues, but by the time it's rectified, there's no ballot with his name on it.
		They don't say anything.
		They just start printing ballots.
		Then, when everyone finds out on election day or during early voting that Trump's name isn't on it, Trump sues.
		Within a couple days, he gets his emergency injunction.
		Too late.
		Three or four days, they gain an advantage where Trump's not on the ballot.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		And theoretically.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And all the mail-in votes, sorry, go out with no Trump on the ballot.
unidentified		Well, the ballots have to be printed, I think, 90 days.
unidentified		They have to be public 90 days before the election.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, hopefully.
unidentified		So if that's the case, I mean, you're gonna have a lot of, I mean, I'll tell you right now, that is the quickest way.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But 90 days in which state?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that every state?
unidentified		Well, no, that's a good point.
unidentified		Most states that I've seen have 90-day safe harbors for everything.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		And theoretically, if it comes out that the Feds were the ones who ultimately incited January 6th, then Trump probably did not partake in insurrection.
unidentified		Trump wasn't even done speaking!
		I was there!
		He wasn't even done speaking!
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		But you wouldn't prosecute the Feds who did incite the insurrection, right?
		Would the FBI director, would any of these agency heads be the ones to take the fall for inciting insurrection?
		Probably not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Republicans need to start making criminal referrals to the Capitol Police, because it will put Merrick Garland in an impossible situation.
		They say, here's a video of a police officer letting the J-6s in the building.
		He should be arrested and charged.
		Now what's going to happen?
		The Democrats are going to say, no, we're not charging this cop.
		Democrats don't like cops.
		Democrats want cops criminally charged for their, you know, and held quote-unquote accountable.
		If it's true.
		So I don't think a single cop will get actually charged or arrested, but put them in the decision dilemma.
		Either you arrest the cops and stand by what you think is an insurrection, or you refuse to arrest the cops who opened the door and let them in.
		Let the American people see you do that.
		And it's gonna make all the American people who've ever questioned January 6th be like, hey, wait a minute.
		There's video.
		The Republicans are calling out video of cops letting people in the building and the Democrat Merrick Garland will not arrest these guys?
		Something doesn't add up.
unidentified		Right.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I think that's important to note because if they did, if they're going to imply all the cops were in on it, then there's intense government corruption.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		But if they're saying, no, the cops are fine, I think every American citizen who is affected by this, who's thought about the last year will obviously see how how corrupt this system is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a big problem for them.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And I think that no, no, no Democrat activist is going to defend a cop.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Right, and I think that's the question.
unidentified		They will US Capitol Police.
unidentified		Because they fought against the insurrection.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		And they sold them as heroes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe Adam Schiff and these neolibs, but you are not going to get the average 30-year-old Democrat to get behind cops.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Well, and this comes up to the Biden administration's major problem, which is that they have to Uh, appease their typical donor class and also the young progressives that are coming up within their party.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		And there's a huge division between them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And also the point is, we're not talking about the, that, who's that guy who went on CNN over and over again?
unidentified		I was just about to say Fanon.
unidentified		We're not talking about Fanon.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're not talking about Fanon.
		We're talking about videos of cops opening the door and the Republicans saying, look, a cop was in on it the whole time and let him in.
		Arrest him.
		Merrick, where are you at?
		Arrest him.
		What Neolib is going to answer to that?
		They're going to ignore it to the best of their abilities.
		Because if the argument is the Capitol Police fought an insurrection, but oof.
		Well, if they make a single arrest, all of a sudden the narrative starts becoming, wow, there were Capitol Police in on the insurrection the whole time.
		They can't do that.
unidentified		That's a good point.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It creates a very serious dilemma for Democrats.
		They'll have to desperately ignore the story.
		And if the Republicans make... This is something the Republicans need to learn how to do, okay?
		A reporter walks up to you with a camera, or they have you on your show, CNN says, will you come on?
		And I always say, don't do these interviews.
		But yeah, yeah, you get Matt Gaetz, you go on CNN, and then Matt Gaetz, when they say, what's this immigration plan?
		Well, we just filed a criminal referral To police officers who are seen on camera in newly released evidence opening the door for the riders on January 6th, we want them arrested.
		And you say that on CNN.
		And then they're gonna be like, well, we didn't ask you that.
		And be like, I know, I just wanted to make sure all the CNN viewers knew that we're going after the cops who aided the people on January 6th, and we're calling on our Democrat counterparts to demand Merrick Garland file the arrest warrants for these police officers in the Capitol Police.
		And they're gonna go, uh-oh.
		What do we do?
		Start sacrificing.
		You know what happens then?
		If the Capitol Police feel that they have no political allies, every man for himself.
		All of a sudden, these phenotypes are going to be like, ain't nobody's coming to save me.
		If you are political fodder, that's it.
		No one's got your back.
		Democrats certainly won't have your back.
		I think that's the play.
unidentified		Well, where are Republicans to call in, you know, Yogananda Pittman?
		I've heard Tarek Johnson, I've had him on my show twice now, and he was a 22-year, he has more experience with the U.S.
		Capitol Police than Chief Sun and Yogananda Pittman.
		He was 22 years there, his wife, Capitol Police officer, and he's been saying, call her in.
		She was the person that had all the intel, she was the one that Prevented that intel from going up the chain and now she's failing upwards at Berkeley as a police chief out there making four times whatever she was making.
		They kept her on the payroll or they gave her temporary leave.
		So that she could retire from the U.S.
		Capitol Police and get her benefits.
		Unpaid leave, administrative leave, whatever, while she was collecting a paycheck.
		Get her in there.
		We got the house.
		What are you guys doing?
		Come on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to the story, my friends.
		From the New York Post.
		I'm gonna start by saying this.
		Hashtag Free Derek Chauvin.
		Railroaded Derek Chauvin's foes will stop at nothing to punish X-Cop as he's nearly killed in prison.
		Yo, this dude certainly does not deserve any of this and it's very obvious that the government is sacrificing him for their own protection because they are evil.
		Because they are evil people.
		We saw this with the Ahmaud Arbery case as well.
		We're seeing it now with Derek Chauvin.
		He was nearly killed shortly after his appeal to the Supreme Court was rejected.
		And I think the reason is, our Supreme Court, people need to understand, they're always like, oh, we got this great conservative Supreme Court.
		Oh, they're cowards, dude.
		Thomas and Alito are based AF, and that's fantastic, but the rest of them are cowards who are terrified of actually doing anything.
		Think of, you know, it's just, I'm sorry man, American culture is in shambles, it's in decay.
		We have a generation, several generations, with too many spineless, spineless leaders.
		And it's sad.
		But it is what it is.
		And so this is the story now.
		Chauvin appeals to the Supreme Court.
		They say no.
		Shortly after, he's nearly killed.
		Listen.
		We can all argue, yeah, you shouldn't kneel on a guy's back and neck to whichever argument you want to make.
		Fine, whatever.
		If it was on the neck, say don't kneel on the neck.
		He was trained to do it.
		He showed up after Floyd was already on the ground.
		He said in an interview that they were waiting for the ambulance to come.
		It didn't come.
		He could have certainly taken his knee off the neck of the guy who was clearly not breathing.
		There's a lot of things he did wrong, and for that, you get fired, you get involuntary manslaughter, which is like maybe two years probation, never be a cop again, the city is forced to pay out a settlement, end the training practice of kneeling on someone's back or neck.
		Instead, they claim this guy is an evil racist who intentionally murdered a black man, blah blah blah, all that stuff, federally indict him, lock him up and throw away the key, and then someone tries to kill him.
		If this is allowed to stand, like, there's no justice in this country.
		Okay?
		Because you can argue, let's say you're the most fringe far leftist person, if you would argue, and many of them are, laughing that he was attacked, saying, well, that's what you get.
		I'm like, okay, you are fascists and you are evil.
		You can not like the guy, you can have the opinion he's an evil man who did wrong, and still, even if you do, understand that proper justice requires he not die, being murdered in prison, or imprisoned for the rest of his life, in multiple charges.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and the argument for a while was if he was in federal prison he's safer, right?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Right, that was the idea.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		And this was in the Ahmaud Arbery case, the father-son duo were sentenced to state prison after they asked, they got convicted on federal and state charges, they asked to be sent to federal prison for their own safety and they were denied.
		They were sent to state prison because they want ultimately, I think a lot of progressive AGs in this country really want to see a bloody end for these people and that's horrible and sad.
		And the judge in Chauvin's case was like, well, if he's going to go to federal prison, put him somewhere his family can see him, right?
		And they're families between Iowa and Minnesota.
		And they were like, no, Arizona.
		We'll see you later.
		And now they're not giving the family information about his status.
		They're learning about it as the news updates, which is crazy.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what his mom said.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		And then the judge also had come out and said, That they were surprised that Chauvin was transferred to Arizona and that it was done without their awareness or knowledge of it.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		But the Bureau of Prisons doesn't have to take a judge's recommendation.
unidentified		Right, for sure.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Which is, I mean, maybe that's good, maybe that's bad.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		In this case, I think it's pretty awful.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Did you guys see Fall of Minneapolis?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Did you guys watch that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, what is it?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		It's this documentary, it was a crowdsourced documentary about this case and everything that happened in the riots after George Floyd and what went down.
		It's actually pretty interesting.
		But they talked to the other cops in the case and all of them are like, no, that we we did what our training was.
		You know, the autopsy showed that there were drugs, that it was like most likely an overdose.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is the one where they mentioned the FBI interfere with the medical examiner's report.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Right, and that the body cam footage wasn't released for months, which we knew at the time, because that was, like, everyone kept waiting for the body cam footage to come out, and it never did, and then it was just months and months later, after the government had full control of the narrative.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Right, and the implication was like a gang of white cops who had, you know, assaulted these people.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		And it wasn't, it was like an Asian guy, there was a black guy, you know, it was like the makeup of the city was in this little unit.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They even locked up the dude who was simply holding back a crowd.
		That's crazy.
		Like, that guy had no idea what was even going on.
		He was like, everyone, stay back, stay back.
		And so now he's going to jail for a long time.
unidentified		Well, nothing ever is going to happen, unfortunately, positive for Chauvin.
		Nothing is going to happen positive.
		If it does, you'll have that summer of love all over again.
		So maybe something does happen, actually.
		Actually, maybe something does happen, and that's what the left is going to use to push the pandemonium in the summer of 2024, just before the... Trump should pardon him.
		Do you think we're gonna see riots this summer?
		Yes.
		What are they gonna be over?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Immigration?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the federal case. So when Trump's president he can issue a pardon.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Do you think we're gonna see riots this summer? Yes. What are they gonna be over?
unidentified		Immigration? Immigration riots? No, race.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Every four years, you know, on election years.
		So, 2020, Summer of Love.
		Can you believe it?
		It's been over three years.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I cannot even believe it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wild, right?
		When the Summer of Love... I love that that's what it's called.
		Who was it who said that?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		It was Jenny Durkan.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		It was the mayor of Seattle.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Summer of Love!
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		What a turd she is.
		Just the worst.
		She also said that the CHAS, the Seattle Autonomous Zone, she also said it was like a big block party.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, with people being killed.
unidentified		With killing of black teenagers.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		14 year olds in 2020 who weren't paying attention will be voting next year.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they're voting for Trump, apparently.
		Trump's up 46 to, uh, what is he up?
		He's up four points, I think, against Biden, according to NBC News, in the youth vote.
unidentified		Let's break that down for a second, because I was looking at this the other day.
		So Trump is up in the 18 to 34 vote.
		I think he's up, right?
		He's up four points, yeah.
		Okay.
		He's up, uh, he's getting right now, I think they have... How do they describe it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		NBC News said Biden minus four, that's what they said.
unidentified		Okay, so the overall poll, like the total of the poll, I think had Trump winning by like four points.
		If you go through the individual categories, I think the black vote Trump was around 24%, which is insane.
		He got 12%.
		In NBC News?
		I'm talking about... Yeah, let's pull it up.
		I have screenshots of it because I was arguing this with somebody.
		But Trump had about 20, I think it was 24% of the black vote, which is awesome because I think he got 12% in 2020.
		He was plus six points away from Biden in the Hispanic vote.
		I think it was like 42 to 48 or something like that.
		He lost the Hispanic vote by 32 points in 2020.
		So, Trump is up 12 points on the black vote, he's pulled within, he's cut 26 points on the Hispanic vote, he's winning the 18 to 34 vote, and the overall poll only had him winning by like 3 points or 4 points or something like that.
		Are you insane?
		Like, if you tell any Republican those numbers for a Republican candidate and you don't tell them it's Donald Trump, they're like, oh my, that's a Ronald Reagan 1980 landslide.
		I mean, he wins all 50 states, he takes Minnesota too.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That would be great.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Are there any places they're saying Trump lost?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, so here's a couple of questions.
		If the election is between a generic Republican and Joe Biden, it's 48 points for the Republican and 37 for Biden.
		If it's Trump versus any other Democratic candidate, it's 46 for the Democrat and 40 for Trump.
		And I don't know if they asked the inverse question.
		I think it's just those two.
		I'd be interested if it was If it's Joe Biden versus Trump, but it's probably somewhere in the poll, but that right there is interesting enough.
		But anyway, continue.
		What was your question?
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm always curious to see, like, it's great that he's gaining.
		I'm also curious to see where there are any potential losses, right?
		Or is it just Joe Biden who's losing supporters?
		I mean, this was a poll a couple months ago.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		We saw a swing state poll that had of like, what was it, six swing states, and it had Trump up in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Arizona, and down in Wisconsin.
		Which was like the one state that Biden won of the swing states, and I'm missing one in my... Michigan?
		Yeah, I'm missing Michigan.
		That's right.
		And you had Trump up in Michigan as well.
unidentified		And he's winning Nevada too.
unidentified		I think he's up like six or seven points in Nevada as well.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		And Wisconsin was the whitest state of the states surveyed.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		So that was sort of interesting as well.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, so I think I think they're saying right now they got Trump up two points against Biden.
unidentified		Is that the same one that has those same?
		Because I know the numbers on the demographics are spot on because I have a photographic memory when it comes to that.
		Does it have the breakdown by the black vote, the 18 to 34?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm looking for.
		That was the generic.
		Right now they're saying Trump's up 2.
		And so real clear politics is showing Trump's averaging 2.6 points above Joe Biden.
		A lot can happen in a year.
		A lot can happen.
		I'll try and find the breakdown by race if they have it.
		I don't know.
		A lot of this is just the general questions.
unidentified		I know Rasmussen had a poll in the beginning of October because I literally bought their platinum package just to be able to read this poll.
unidentified		They had Trump winning 51% of the black vote.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I remember that.
		The number of random subscriptions I have.
		And then it's like, I don't even remember how I subscribed.
		I have no idea how to cancel it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Hey, look at this.
		You or someone else in your household owns a gun of any kind.
		52 applies.
		43 does not apply.
		That's interesting.
		Gun rights, baby!
		People in this country want to be able to own guns.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Democrats trying to take him away.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's going to piss him off.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		And they don't like Joe Biden.
		I mean, Joe Biden is intensely unpopular.
		Polls show this over and over again.
		The fact that there was a majority of Democrats were like, no, he's too old to be president.
		That does not bode well for a reelection campaign.
		He only gets older.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		The one concern that I would have about, you know, declaring a Trump victory prematurely would be that I think Gavin Newsom would be a wild card.
		And I don't know what would happen there.
		I know a lot of people that I talk to who are not really conservative, but they're also not really liberal.
		They really don't like Joe Biden.
		They also don't like Trump.
		And I think they would grab at a chance to vote for somebody they've never heard of who might have a reasonable-ish smile, like Gavin Newsom.
unidentified		Pete, they had to have heard of Gavin Newsom, though.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I mean, especially after the San Francisco- Well, sure, but like, you know, you don't hear of him the same way, and if you're not that engaged in politics, you'd know, like, oh, Gavin Newsom, he's the governor of California, and California's fine.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		He had one big viral moment when he was doing his acceptance speech, or his, like, inaugural address, and his- I remember it went viral because I think a lot of the country didn't really know him, and his son, like, came up on stage.
		People were like, How funny.
		How cute.
		This young, you know, tall governor and this, you know, adorable child.
		And he's he's a dad and a politician.
		And for Californians, they're like, no, we don't like that guy.
		And people in neighboring states know it.
		But the average American who's just in the Midwest who doesn't care about California that much just saw it as this like, oh, he's the guy with the kid.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Right.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		And they forgot all about French laundry.
unidentified		Right.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		And how he was totally pushing COVID mandates on everybody, but doing whatever he pleased himself.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Including sending his kids to private schools that were not closed during the pandemic.
unidentified		With everything that Newsom, that you hear about California Prop 47 and all the crime that's running rampant there, coming out and saying, oh yeah, yeah, Xi Jinping is coming over here, so we just moved all the homeless people.
unidentified		We can't do it for you guys, but we did it for him.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		And he said, like, at the time, he was like, you've been hearing rumors that we did this because the pretty people are coming to town.
		And we did.
		That is why we fancy people, not pretty.
		They're not pretty, but fancy.
		Yeah.
		And he confirmed that that was, in fact, true.
		And it was a nice little chuckle.
		Oh, look, he's telling the truth.
		And how about that?
		What a guy.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Didn't he, like, delay vaccinating his kids, even though every other kid, all the other students in California?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there was also didn't wear a mask.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Did he, like, get vaccinated and, like, disappear for three weeks?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Well, he didn't want to mess up his hair, you know?
unidentified		Remember that?
unidentified		He got vaccinated, and then, like, three weeks, he disappears, and they're like, oh, he's at a wedding, and they take, like, this sky view, and they're like, that's him in the back of his head in the third row.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, yeah.
unidentified		And everybody was, like, thinking he had Guillain-Barre syndrome.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but it's also just like Gavin Newsom being like, I'm going on vacation.
unidentified		For three weeks.
unidentified		He gets to do whatever he wants.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's a dude who decreed masks and then is seen quite literally at a fancy restaurant not wearing masks.
		He does not care!
		But I want to jump to this.
		We got questions about Joe Biden, whether or not he's going to be out and Trump's going to win.
		And so we're wondering what could happen.
		Here's a story from ZeroHedge.
		64 US bank branches filed to shut down in a single week.
		Are you affected?
		Listen, it may not be my bank that shut down.
		I'm not saying, you know, maybe your bank shut down, but regardless of whether it was your personal branch, you know, you're all affected.
		Bank branches are shutting down.
		And so the question is, why is it happening?
		Well, obviously, the economy is pretty bonkers right now.
		It doesn't make sense at all.
		You've got people who can't afford to eat, and you've got casinos popping up all over the place.
		I swear, the casino thing really makes me think we're in, like, the end of days.
		Chicago just approved, recently, a $1.6 billion Bally's Casino on the river in the city.
		Oh my goodness.
		And they just opened the first Chicago casino, Bally's, temporary location.
		And I'm like, When they start legalizing gambling across the board and casinos are popping up, what does a casino do?
		You just give money away?
		I mean, you could win money, but come on.
		You're paying for entertainment.
		The simplest form of a casino is you go there, you lose money, you have fun, you have drinks, you leave.
		They're popping up all over the place, meaning there's a lot of people with disposable income.
		At the same time, there are way too many people with no income at all that can't afford to live and can't afford to get houses.
		They can't afford to buy groceries.
		This It can't maintain itself.
		So they're saying one of the reasons the banks are closing down is that everyone's just doing digital right now, so they don't need them.
unidentified		And I'm like, yeah, that's not, that's not it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, probably.
		But if the economy was doing well and the banks were doing well, they would keep their locations open for marketing purposes.
		And just to have an available location for people who are just happening to be in the area.
		I get it, it is a fair point.
		Why keep a bank branch open if everyone's online anyway?
		But if you had the money, you would.
		There's not a lot going into opening a bank branch.
		I guess they can fire a lot of people, I guess in the long run they save a lot of money.
		I think the real issue is we have seen, what, six banks, entire banks shut down this year?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's been really a lot of banks.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		It's been scary.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And now we're seeing bank branches shutting down.
		I'm not going to sit back while the people in the media are like, this is totally normal and everyone's fine, the stock market will be great and just keep doing your thing.
		I'm like, nah.
		Me personally, I don't know, I'll buy some Bitcoin or something.
		Maybe get some property in Argentina.
		Yo, we were looking at property in Argentina.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Oh, in the Pampas?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		It's beautiful there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, all I know is you can get, we found like 500 acres that was only accessible by raft, and it's like four grand.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I'm like, that seems pretty great.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I was in Argentina.
unidentified		Yeah, good luck getting there, but can you get Starlink?
unidentified		Yes, of course.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I was there for a theater conference in 2003 and it was like this compound in the pampas.
		It was really exceptional and off the grid and pretty wacky.
		I recommend Argentina.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, for all those who are preparing for the apocalypse, El Salvador's sounding pretty good.
		Argentina especially, wow!
		You know, I made the joke, I'm like, can we elect Javier Millet in the United States somehow?
unidentified		Is there like some special rule?
		Don't be too quick.
		I mean, they still do have 140% inflation.
		When he pulls off the central bank down there, we'll see what happens.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you're saying wait till it bottoms out, then buy him.
unidentified		And then buy.
		I don't know.
		Look, I mean, they've been lying about this economy to the American public for so long with mortgage rates up around almost 8%.
		I mean, that's, that's absurd.
		Like that.
		I mean, we look at 2008 and what happened with 2008 when the adjustable rate mortgages started just going up ever so slightly.
		And all of a sudden these people couldn't afford their $250,000 home anymore.
		That was an $800 payment.
		And now it ballooned to $1,700.
		And they're like, well, that's the same thing that's happening right now.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Right, exactly.
		Everyone that bought a home in 2020 is probably in the worst... I would not want to be in their situation right now, because it's cheaper to rent right now than it is to buy a home.
		But yeah, everyone that bought in 2020, they're watching that interest rate go up and just hoping... If they have a variable interest rate, though.
		Yeah, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how many people are doing that these days.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do they still do the variable interest rates?
unidentified		I mean, that's appealing right now, but...
unidentified		I don't know what the adjustable rates are at right now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I just looked at the fixed, but... Because you don't want to go in at 8%, so you're like, I'll take 6% variable.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and then it goes to 15% and you're like... And then you're screwed.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Exactly, that's what happens.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I wouldn't do that.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		But so many people would, they don't know.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		They don't understand how it works and they just do it.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I would just take the lowest I could get, buy down for points.
unidentified		Eight percent.
		And the market's great, too.
		My house right now is worth significantly more than it was when we bought it in 2016, 2015.
		Significantly more.
		To the point where I'm telling my wife, we need to sell the home and buy an RV and just drive around the country for a year, wait till all this sorts itself out, and then when it comes back down, we can buy a home and own it outright and not have a mortgage payment or anything like that.
		You can't buy anything in the meantime.
		You can't rebuy at 8%.
		I mean...
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I was talking to my mom about this and she was buying, you know, she's fine now, but she was buying real estate in like the eighties and nineties and stuff.
		And she was telling me that her, her first home that she bought, it was like, you know, 12% and they thought that was pretty good at the time.
		And that was in the eighties, you know?
		So it has changed.
		Yeah.
		It has changed rather significantly.
		Just our sense of what a normal interest rate is.
unidentified		I'm locked in at 2.75 and I'm staying there.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Nice.
		Congrats.
		I am not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If the economy gets worse, then Trump's unbeatable.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Trump, Carlson 2024 with a crumbling economy, banks shutting down everywhere, crime through the roof.
		He's going to come back out.
		He's going to give his first rally and he's going to go For those listening, I'm just shrugging.
unidentified		Or a very, very, very deadly virus somehow makes its way over here with a 99.99% survival rate and we have to shut down everything.
		99.9%?
		Force mail-in ballots.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That's deadly.
unidentified		What a deadly survival rate!
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		No, you were right.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I was trying to make a joke.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think that will work again.
unidentified		No, it won't.
unidentified		That's why they're trying to get him off the ballot.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		So the real play is going to have to be Some kind of Trump's not eligible?
		One of my thoughts is that the neocon neolib establishment, when I say they, is resigned.
		In fact, they're going to lose.
		And so the play is set Trump up for massive failure.
		Look at Afghanistan.
		Biden chose to destroy Afghanistan.
		I mean, this was a deliberate action by the United States.
		If Trump was in office, the Afghanistan withdrawal would have been fine.
		Would it have been great?
		No, that's ridiculous.
		There's probably bad things that are gonna happen, but abandoning Bagram Air Force Base in the middle of the night?
		I think it's possible that the Biden administration said, let's make Afghanistan the biggest disaster in, you know, of our generation.
		So that way we can be like, oh no, look, go when you withdraw, look at all the bad things that we can withdraw now.
		Oh, it'll be Afghanistan all over again.
		Then Syria, then Iran, whatever else we're gonna invade.
		The playmate now may be, let Trump.
		Fine, he's going to win.
		We'll just make sure that there's landmines every step he takes.
		And then we'll say, you see what happens when you elect someone like Donald Trump?
unidentified		Maybe.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I think Trump has popular support.
		It will be anybody who takes office has to unravel Biden's mess and that will always be an issue.
		But I think generally the sentiment is that no one could be worse than Biden.
		And even if they were to switch him out for Gavin Newsom, it's expensive to live in California, right?
		I don't want his economic policies either.
		And so there's no one on Democratic bench that they could suddenly pull up before next year who's like, who will win the economic argument.
		I think Americans are completely voting based on how much they're paying in gases and how much they're paying in groceries.
		And ultimately, it has to be a Republican.
		The Republican states are faring better.
		Not great, but a lot of them are better off.
		And Trump has the popular confidence vote.
		I mean, people believe Trump can make a difference.
		Well, what it will actually look like, that obviously makes us nervous, but it can't be a Democrat.
		Democrat states and cities are failing for this.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
unidentified		Whitmer?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Who could possibly?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Oh, she's so terrible.
unidentified		Oh, she's terrible, but Democrats don't have anybody.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Even Newsom can't spin the narrative.
		He can't pitch the story.
		There's no Newsom story.
		Trump's got a character arc.
		Trump's got a story.
		Trump's got... Hey, man.
unidentified		Polis in Colorado?
		Who?
		I know my... Polis.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		No, I know, but nobody knows who that is.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Well, I mean, he had his moment with the tread on me kid.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There is no Democrat that has X Factor.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not a single one.
unidentified		I know my co-host on Why We Vote is literally cringing right now because I said Polis.
unidentified		She's from Colorado and cannot stand that.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		He can't win his own state.
		There's no way it could be him.
		I think you're right.
		There's no Democrat that has it, and part of it is because none of them are good at the economy.
		And that's what's going to matter this round.
unidentified		All right, fine.
		I'll say it.
		Michelle Obama.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
unidentified		No?
		You don't think so?
		You don't think they would rule her out?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
		Maybe.
		But I don't think she has the story.
		I don't think she can spin the story.
		What are they going to say?
		Biden is the Obama administration.
		The reason they wanted Biden was because they wanted to be like, remember Obama?
		I remember Obama.
		And now it's bad.
		Michelle Obama is going to come out and be like, we're going to try Obama again.
		And people are going to be like, I don't know.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Obama 3.0.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe, maybe.
		I mean, that NBC News poll, if you like the polls, maybe you don't.
		They said any Democratic candidate versus Trump wins.
		And so maybe, maybe not.
		Rasmussen actually has Biden up in the polls against Trump.
		Surprisingly.
		The one poll in the RealClearPolitics aggregate.
unidentified		We're still not even factoring in that Biden is also, on top of all the atrociousness with the economy and foreign policy and everything else, he's still running against RFK Jr.
		and Cornel West, and we're going to get a fourth person in here.
		Somebody from that independent party ticket is going to You know, I know Mitt Romney said he doesn't want it.
		You know, somebody else is going to get in there, whether it's Joe Manchin.
		Joe Manchin.
		Well, it's going to be, I think it's going to be a split ticket.
		And if they put the Republican on top, that could have some of the, you know, establishment Republicans that are still out there will rally behind that.
		That could actually hurt Trump a little bit.
		But I mean, the RFK Jr.
		thing, I think, is going to absolutely crush Biden.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		No shot.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		People were saying, like I heard a lot of people talking about how The RFK run would actually hurt Trump.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Makes no sense.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		He's an outsider.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Trump's an outsider.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		RFK Jr.
		announcing his campaign on, quote, Indigenous Peoples Day just excluded every right-leaning moderate, every centrist independent.
		They're just all gone.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		And he teased the border stuff.
		He was like, the border is a serious issue.
		But then he wouldn't say, and I will build a wall.
		If he had done something like that, then yeah, there might have been people who were like, this is my issue.
		We're going here.
		I can see the implications.
		But he is like toying with some of his right supporters.
		The right supporters are enthusiastic about him, but they ultimately... There was this New Hampshire poll that was like, if your first choice doesn't run, who would you vote for?
		No one picked RFK.
		They were still picking Trump and, you know, whoever else first.
		He has popular support because he's so radical, but ultimately he is siphoning off votes from the Democrats.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
unidentified		Well, he's likable, and a lot of Republicans right now know that he was against the vaccine, and that's big with them, and the border, like you said.
		But they haven't really heard him.
		Your average, everyday Republican that doesn't listen to the news all the time hasn't heard his stance on the climate change, hasn't heard his stance on gun rights.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		He's really into abortion, too.
unidentified		Abortion.
		Hasn't heard any of these things.
		I mean, if they could just stop right now and take the perception that a lot of Republicans have in terms of RFK Jr.
		and have the vote right now, yeah, he might take a little bit.
		I still think he takes more from Biden.
		He might take a little bit, but not much.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I think it's funny whenever the leftist media outlets talk about Trump's plans for immigration and the border, and they're like, he wants to deport a lot of people.
		He wants to really cut down on the border.
		He really wants to do all this stuff.
		He wants to put people in camps until he can get them deported.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		And Republicans are like, sounds good.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That's amazing.
		Why aren't we doing that now?
		Or like the thing today, I saw he wants to put back into effect the family separation policy.
		Well, that was really a deterrent for people to not come, you know, and Biden is doing family separation too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Only families are separating themselves way before they get here, and then their kids get sold to human traffic But when the media reports like Donald Trump will imprison political opponents and engage in mass deportation, the headline is actually, Donald Trump to enforce law.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like, oh, okay.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		NPR was arguing that abortion is going to be the big issue.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		They really want it to be because it was in the midterms.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		They say that that had a big impact.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		It's the only thing that they can say to make people hysterical.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Republicans don't get it.
		They play everything straight shot.
		No, no, no, you got to understand, the play is for Republicans to all come out, all sit on like a, they should have a big event where they get a bunch of candidates, pro-life candidates, sitting at a table and they all just kind of look at each other and go, so liberals, liberals want to abort their children?
		We're for that.
		We're all for that.
		We agree, yes, liberals should be allowed to abort all of their children.
unidentified		We've only registered Democrats, though.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you, well not even, you know what I'm saying, just, and then they're gonna be like, wait, what, why?
unidentified		Yeah, that's still not good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why are you saying this?
		I'm just, the Republicans need to be like, we're in favor of liberals getting abortions.
		Thank you and have a nice day.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		But they can't be.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I mean, true pro-lifers don't want anybody to abort their children.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I do think it's a huge problem for conservatives, for the Republican Party, that you have a staunch, unmovable faction.
		I understand the arguments and I don't disagree.
		I think it's strong to have morals.
		I'm saying there is a risk there because they're going to lose a lot of suburban women.
unidentified		I was playing golf on Saturday with a guy, and we just got paired up with him.
		I didn't know him personally beforehand.
		First hole, he asked me what I do.
		I tell him I'm a writer, a podcaster, and all that.
		He says, oh, I'm a software engineer, and I do a lot of political stuff, and I'm very progressive.
		And I was like, oh, this is going to be an interesting round of golf.
		We never got into specific people except AOC and Matt Gaetz and the bill that they kind of co-sponsored together over term limits.
		And our general consensus by the end of the match was, we need to get rid of the kitchen table topics, the abortion, the gun rights.
		That stuff is not going anywhere anytime soon.
		The abortion's down at the states where it needs to be.
		Gun rights aren't going anywhere.
		What's that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Disagree on the abortion thing.
unidentified		You don't think abortion should be at the states?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, but continue.
unidentified		Okay.
		Well, anyways, the bottom line is we both agreed that the next administration, whether it's, you know, the president, the next Congress, everybody, got to get our shit together, man.
		We got to stop passing these CRs.
		We got to stop passing the omnibus.
		We got to get term limits in there.
		Absolutely have to have term limits.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		The fact that Dianne Feinstein died in office is crazy.
unidentified		The fact that TMZ is interviewing her and like, you know, how does it feel to be back?
		And she's like, what do you mean I feel to be back?
		I've been here the whole time.
		Like, no, you've been gone for... Fetterman, I mean, Fetterman's asking a question of a banker, and it's so bad that the banker at the end is like, I don't know.
		You can't make sense of what he's saying, so... I think Fetterman's actually recovered quite a great deal, though, at this point.
		I haven't seen him lately.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, his latest videos are coherent.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And he's pretty funny, I gotta be honest.
unidentified		So what's on the abortion... Human rights are a question for the federal government.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Whether the Constitution applies to an individual is a question for the federal government to answer.
		Do the unborn have guaranteed rights to life?
		That is not something the states can decide.
unidentified		I mean, I personally think they do, but is it explicitly in the Constitution?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, like, the 14th Amendment, for instance.
		That the Constitution applies to the people.
		We went over this with Ian, I'm not going to pull it up again.
		But do the unborn have God-given rights?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So why then would you say that if you are born, the federal government guarantees your rights, but if you're unborn, the federal government does not guarantee your rights?
unidentified		Because the left doesn't see that same way.
		I'm not talking about the left.
		But they have a differing opinion, so I'm with you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're arguing it should not be a federal question.
		I think if the federal government is saying the Constitution applies to all of its subjects, then I would say, oh, okay, then the unborn Are humans with human rights the same as any born person?
		Why then would it be a question for the state to be allowed to say, nah, we're determining this person's not a human?
		You know what I mean?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Because they're referring... The conversations about abortion aren't about the unborn child.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		They're always about the woman who's carrying the child.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		My point is, the federal government needs to answer the question of whether or not the unborn have God-given and guaranteed rights.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I think that makes sense.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is the answer yes or no?
		And I, you know, when Roe v. Wade was first overturned, I said, it probably makes sense.
		The states can determine it.
		You know, I don't know.
		And then after having several arguments about it, I was like, no, nah.
		We're going back to this period where some states determined that some people were or were not worthy of full God-given protected rights.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Peru recently passed a bill called the Law that Recognizes Rights of the Conceived, making sure that the unborn have constitutional rights.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Can a state right now say that we've determined white men are not human?
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But a white baby's not human, that's what they can say now.
		So why give them the power to determine the life of the child's value or their rights, but not for someone who's born?
		If argument is pro-life, then pro-lifers should be saying, the Constitution guarantees the rights of the unborn the same as the born.
unidentified		But wouldn't the Constitution then have to... because look, and I'm with you on this, I'm with you as a conservative, I'm with you, but The left, they're making the argument that it's not a person, it doesn't have any rights until it's actually born, which I disagree with strongly.
unidentified		But because of that, that would then be, I mean, unless you get a ruling from the Supreme Court saying that, yes, from the moment of conception, or, you know, and this was what Roe v. Wade was originally supposed to be, from three weeks, six weeks, whatever it is, it's a person from that point on, until we have something like that on the record, on the books, in the federal, you know, either statute or in the Constitution, amendment.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I think the ruling from the Supreme Court should have been as such.
		Fourteenth Amendment says, all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.
		Period.
		Next clause.
		No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States.
		Semicolon.
		Nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law, nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protections of laws.
		Is an unborn baby a person, as per the Constitution?
		That question needs to be answered.
		Because if it does, that means no state can deprive a baby, an unborn child, of life lest there is a due process hearing.
		That's a question that the federal government needs to answer.
		I do not believe it should be up to states to decide who is a person and who isn't.
		I also think it's kind of shocking that the federal government could decide a certain group of people are not persons as well.
		But it does need to be adjudicated and ruled upon.
		The question, as per the 14th Amendment, are the unborn persons Yes or no?
		What would you say?
unidentified		I mean, based on the 14th Amendment... No, no, no, just a generic question.
		Are they a person?
		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, there you go.
		Then abortions are illegal without due process hearing to determine the rights and the justification for abortion.
		End of story.
		No exceptions.
		None whatsoever.
		I am not pro-life.
unidentified		Right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because I think there's a lot of... I think the issue, however, would simply be that in the instance of any abortion, there would have to be a hearing to terminate the life.
		And the hearing may be, the woman says, I do not consent to give my body, there is no contractual agreement, and the court may then say, the person in your body has no right, no guarantees to your blood, we agree, bang the gavel, whatever you want to do, abortion is permitted.
		However it's done.
		The point is...
		Are the unborn persons?
		If they are, the federal government needs to say the unborn are persons.
		And if they are, then abortions cannot happen without due process.
		And that would mean the woman who wants to get an abortion would have to go to court and get approval from a judge for an abortion.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I feel like she's trying to get married at the age of 15.
		Sorry, that's a terrible joke.
		I was laughing though.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the interesting thing here is the serious nature of what this means.
		It means that you can't deprive a person of life.
		Without due process, that would mean the abortions would need to have very strong legal reasons.
		I think there's a libertarian contractual argument of the state can't enforce someone provide their body to another person.
		However, the judge could simply say, you've entered into an agreement with the life within you by having consensual sex.
		The argument could then be, it was rape.
		In which case, after due process, rape was determined, unfortunately for the person.
		This person in the womb has no guarantee to the blood of the person for which they currently reside.
		Bang the gavel, abortion permitted.
		That may be, but if this were to happen, and I do believe this is an inevitability, because I don't see how you get past this question.
		The approach, the left's argument on life has to use ridiculous arguments to determine that babies aren't human beings.
		It's nonsense.
		Just, it's absolute nonsense.
		Right, when the left says babies aren't people.
unidentified		So what do you, when it says all persons born are naturalized?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't say that.
unidentified		In section one right there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm not talking about that clause.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
unidentified		What do you want, section two?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law.
		That's an entirely separate clause.
		It has nothing of citizenship, nothing of what a person is.
		So all persons born are citizens.
		Okay, so the unborn aren't citizens.
		Fine.
		But it doesn't matter.
		If you are an immigrant in this country, or you're visiting as a tourist, you cannot be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process.
		So non-citizens have constitutional rights.
unidentified		Yeah, but it's defining citizens as somebody that's born or naturalized in the United States.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What does a citizen have to do with what I'm talking about?
unidentified		Because your clause there says, nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without, excuse me, go back one further, the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States, nor, okay, so, okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Separate clause.
unidentified		I'm glad you proved me wrong on that because that disturbed me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If you are an immigrant in the United States, if you're a tourist, You have free speech.
		You have all of your constitutional rights, all the same as anyone else.
		This has long been fact in this country.
		If you come to this country as a tourist, they can't just kill you, and then be like, yeah, too bad.
		No, no, you can't be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process, even as a non-citizen.
		And there are people who have tried to make the argument, a lot of conservatives are like, well, immigrants don't have constitutional rights.
		Yes, they do, because they're God-given rights.
		The government is barred from taking certain actions against anyone.
		Okay, I see this as an inevitability.
		It doesn't matter what you politically believe or don't want to.
		I do not see a circumstance, and I've talked a great deal with Seamus about this, with slavery for instance.
		The determination was that slaves weren't people.
		They did not have constitutionally protected rights, they didn't have due process, they were denied these things.
		And then eventually, the courts were like, yo, they're persons.
		And the 14th Amendment comes about after the Civil War to specifically say, no person can be deprived without these things.
		Babies are persons.
		They are living human beings.
		And, right, what you mentioned Roe v. Wade, the question of when is it a viable human, I think that gets the wrong question.
		The question is, if a man and a woman agree to engage in reproductive acts, and the woman gets pregnant, the woman consented to share her body for nine months with the person that now is residing within her.
		If she did not consent to that, you have a totally different question.
		You will need a due process hearing to determine that the woman can terminate in this regard, and that's probably the only circumstance where it would be allowed under due process laws per the 14th Amendment, that I did not consent to provide my body to another person.
		Any other circumstance, there's no argument.
unidentified		Yeah, I'm agreeing with you.
unidentified		I'm agreeing with you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's why I think it goes to the federal level.
unidentified		That's a good argument.
		I'm not saying... I like that argument.
		I want abortion completely off the table.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't see how under the Constitution you have abortion in any capacity.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And we've talked a great deal about it, and the only exception being when a woman does not consent to share her body.
unidentified		Well, so the point that got us to this point was that we need to start focusing on cleaning up our house, getting the fundamentals of our Congress together.
		We've got an overbearing, uh, you know, bureaucracy that is, it's grips on every single facet of our lives right now.
		That needs to go away.
		ATF, EPA, there's a whole bunch of, I don't know how we got off.
		Oh, cause we were talking about kitchen table.
		Like they just, the lobbyists, they want the lobbyists to pour their money into the, to the gun lobby, to the, to the, uh, abortion lobby to, you know, whatever the climate lobby, all of it.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I want the money from the GOP.
		I think that they should be focusing on small local elections.
		I think they should be trying to do battle with George Soros and those DA elections at local levels.
		That's what they should be doing.
		I was talking to Jesse Kelly today about this and it's like in New York City we were talking about how in New York You know people just keep voting for Democrats and the fact of the matter is the GOP doesn't put up any decent candidates.
		Curtis Sliwa was the last mayoral candidate for the GOP and you know he has a lot of good policies and stuff but when you get right down to it he's a single man living in a studio apartment with 20 cats and that's kind of weird for a guy who wants to be the mayor that's just that was just a little much.
		Libby hates cats!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're going to go to Super Chat, so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com.
		Join us, click that button, become a member.
		The Uncensored show is coming up in about 25 minutes.
		Normally I go right to the beginning, but I do want to read this Super Chat right here because we're just talking about it.
		Ram Tech says, Tim's a smart guy, but the baby is not born yet.
		Though I am anti-abortion, if you take the Constitution by its word, an unborn baby is not protected.
		Wrong!
		It clearly draws a distinction between being a person, being born, being a citizen.
		The Fourth Amendment explicitly states all persons born are citizens.
		Therefore, they're defining the unborn as persons and saying once they're born, they're citizens.
		Therefore, the unborn persons still cannot be killed or deprived life, liberty, and property without due process.
		Simply put, if a woman wants to get an abortion, actually, The government could offer up abortion for literally no reason.
		None.
		So long as it's a due process hearing.
		Woman can say, uh, I want the baby out of me.
		The judge says, agreed, bang the gavel.
		In fact, they could even streamline the process.
		But due process requires defense, in which case, I'd argue that groups will defend the unborn.
		If it comes down to it, where a woman has to get approval from a judge, a due process for the person, To terminate it, there will be advocacy groups that will say, we are acting in the defense of the baby.
		Of the unborn person.
		And they have due process rights and we will argue on their behalf.
		So.
		It does not mention anything about persons needing to be born to have rights.
		It says, if you are born you are a citizen.
		It does not say that only citizens have rights.
		In fact, it explicitly is stating that you don't have to be a citizen to have your rights protected.
		Or guaranteed not to be infringed.
		Let's read some superchats.
		Smash that like button.
		Kilted Cardivore says, not first!
		Except, sir, you were first.
		Unfortunate.
		You thought you weren't going to be first, but you were.
		Brian Boyer says, not second.
		That's sad.
		You were second.
		Jacob Paradis says, if it can happen in Ireland, it can happen here.
		Yeah.
		It absolutely could.
		19th Shadow says there's going to be international shipping for the coffee.
		There already is.
		It's just expensive.
		If you're trying to order coffee to a different country, the shipping's gonna cost you, man.
		I don't have to tell you.
		But things are going really, really great with the coffee company.
		Just gotta say that.
		Going really, really well, and we're really excited how well it is going.
		Let's grab some more.
		Where are we at?
		Rack Brass says, welcome back guys!
		No Thanksgiving in Brazil, so I was very bored all these days.
		Ended up watching hoof trimming videos on YouTube.
		YouTube.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Hoof trimming?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Horses?
unidentified		Yeah, it's like, weirdly therapeutic.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's where they're taking, they're cutting the nails off the horse's hoof.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		Won't they scrape out the bottom first?
		Yeah.
		You scrape it out.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		It's like when people watch cleaning videos and like get into it.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I prefer watching glass blowing videos on Instagram.
unidentified		That's crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy because I'm like, what if you go too far and you hurt its foot or whatever?
		Like, how do you know?
		You know?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I know.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		It makes me nervous too, but I guess it's like a giant nail?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is.
		Yeah.
		It's like one big toe with a big nail on it.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		And it's worse if you don't do it, they get uncomfortable.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Just like if you don't clip your fingernails, which is so... fingernails are so gross.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		That's the only way to get in the Guinness Book of World Records, if you just let them grow.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Like Jackie Joyner-Kersee, remember her?
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		No, thank you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, Tony Smiley says, The Crowder Show was two parts on YouTube.
		First half was Dan Bongino hosting.
		The second half was Crowder hosting.
		I think he got a strike for both, didn't he?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think they both got taken down.
		Wow.
		Steven Wolf says, Hey guys, I just turned 35 last Saturday.
		I'm now eligible to run for president or VP.
		Does Donald Trump still need a VP for 24?
		It's going to be huge!
		Big League!
		Ultra Maga!
		Trump, Wolf, 24.
		Save the USA.
		Well, good luck, sir!
		Good luck.
		And, uh, where we at?
		Joe Spinella says, Ireland's used to being occupied.
		Nothing new here.
		You know, it's really funny.
		Isn't, isn't Sinn Féin like the, like, they were like the, the Irish nationalists?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Sinn Féin.
unidentified		Sinn Féin.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Weren't they also the terrorists?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Weren't they like, they were like the political wing of the IRA?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they were like, uh, get the UK out, Ireland for the Irish.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Gerry Adams.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now they're like far left, and it's like really weird because now they're bringing immigrants in, it's like Ireland for the Irish, but now everybody else I guess.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		They like swap sides almost.
unidentified		They're just trying to melt us all into a pot, just everywhere, I mean.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think so.
unidentified		No.
		No, they are.
		We're not- I don't think we'll- No, no, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't think they are.
		No?
		No.
		There are articles telling white people not to have kids.
		There's out-group preference.
		They hate white people.
unidentified		Oh, so you're saying they want to melt everybody else together, but get the white people out?
unidentified		Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		They hate the global minority.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm not saying- They're against minorities.
unidentified		That's what you're saying.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying specifically.
		I'm just saying they hate white people.
		Because in the United States, the left is saying indigenous rights.
		And then when the white people in Europe are like, indigenous rights, they go, no, you're white nationalists.
		Well, hold on there a minute.
		If it were for the rights of indigenous populations to avoid being colonized, you would support the European white people who are saying no immigration.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yes, you would.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's colonization!
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, when they're opposed to the indigenous population of Europe, And opposed to the colonized population of the United States, the only factor there that's shared is white people.
		They just don't like white people.
		And then you see all these racist videos where they just insult white people all day.
		They're just racists!
		They're just a bunch of racist people who hate people based on race.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Again, against the global minority.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		So it's okay to be mean to some minorities, just as long as it's an international thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's funny.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What, is white people like 8% of the global population or something?
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I mean, look at the landmass of Europe.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		There's not a lot of us.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We'll grab some more.
		What do we have?
		Dylan Visitation says, Libby is awesome.
		Cooler than the other side of the pillow.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Hey, thanks.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The other side of the pillow.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That's really actually pretty nice.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Because the other side of the pillow is so cool.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Kendall says, hey, Tim, can you call out Columbia S.C.
		police?
		They are protecting my grapist.
		It's disgraceful.
		Told me he's protected by First Amendment.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		What's a grapist?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a special word to avoid getting flagged on YouTube.
unidentified		Take away the G. Oh, wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But his speech?
		What does that mean?
		I don't understand.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		I don't understand either.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		No more context.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What do we have?
		Austin says, watched exit polls live.
		The malding by GLPVDA media was glorious.
		Dual citizen.
		Going to uni next year.
		I don't know.
		What does that mean?
		Oh, is this a win in Wilder's?
		I don't understand the super chat, but yes, congratulations, or whatever.
		Let's see, Grouchy says, when people speak with each other, incredible things happen.
		May our voice be overwhelming.
		That's the plan for Casper.
		I'm really excited.
		There are so many people who want to open their own Casper location, so once we get all the legal paperwork done and do all of the legal stuff we need to do, we're going to try to expand as rapidly as possible and open a ridiculous amount of coffee shops.
		The idea is it's great hangouts, man.
		So the average person goes in for a cup of coffee, and the people who are hanging out are going to be good, America-loving patriots who believe in protecting this country, and I'm hoping that this means that, you know, there are a lot of ignorant conservatives.
		There are a lot of, uh, you know, low IQ, ignorant conservatives.
		And if people come together, then, uh, natural community leaders can help inform these individuals and keep them up-to-date.
		And what I mean by this is I've met people who, uh, still believe things that were debunked like a year ago.
		They're conservatives, but they'll believe some lie about Donald Trump, but they'll still be like, well, you know, he did that, uh, actually that was debunked, and they'll go, oh, I didn't know that.
		And there are people who are just not very bright.
		I'm hoping that we build these community spaces and you're going to have local leaders sitting down with the average person and everyone is going to be brought up to date on the current goings-on in their communities locally, statewide, regionally, nationally.
		That's how we do it, baby.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		It would also be so nice to just have a chill place to hang out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Even if you don't talk about politics.
unidentified		Yeah.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		It'd be so nice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you're not going to get kicked out.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So many places closed.
		And then also it's like you go into coffee shops and it's just all pride flags and you're like, ugh.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're going to have Gadsden flags.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Don't really want to hang out here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're gonna have Gadsden flags and Molon Labe and things like that.
		So there's gonna be a chain of, I love this, maybe we should make it like a requirement if we ever get to the franchise thing done.
		You gotta fly a Gadsden flag.
		I don't think anyone would disagree.
		Everyone, like, yeah, here are the flags that are acceptable.
		Molon Labe, Gonzalez, Betsy Ross, the American flag.
		People are gonna be like, yeah, let's get it!
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		And then as you visit each location, you see like the best ones or the coolest display and things like that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		As DoeIs2Deer says, it's going to be very easy to send hateful material to every Irish legislator who votes for these hate speech laws from another state and place them in possession.
		Just saying.
		That's interesting.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That is interesting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're going to get text messages and they're going to have these photos and be like, well, you're in possession.
unidentified		Man, that's...
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		You can text them all kinds of weird stuff from your little burner phone.
unidentified		That is horrifying.
		With AI?
		That is terrifying.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's a story we didn't get to.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You see, Sports Illustrated had fake writers, AI-generated articles with AI-generated people.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Oh, how about that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And when they got caught, Futurism.com reached out to them, they deleted everything.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Really?
		Why didn't they just say, yes, that is what we have done.
		We have used this technology.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because they were lying.
		They created fake bios for the guy.
		For the people.
		They had fake biographies.
		And the stories are written like a person.
		It's like, when they're trying to sell a product, there was one that was like, you know, I used to play volleyball.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Is it like sponsored content?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Some of it is.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or it's like leads, where they write an article saying, here are some products you can buy.
		And then they want you to click one of, so like for a lead, for instance, it's not really sponsored.
		They'll give you a list of products.
		And then when you click one, they'll get a cut.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		They get like the affiliate type thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Whereas sponsorship is like one company says, shout me out and we'll give you X dollars.
		Leads are like, you list a whole bunch of different products and you get money anytime anyone of them sells.
		So they deleted it all.
		It's very, very creepy.
		And then there's this viral video of this AI generated singer.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That's creepy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And his song's not good, but it just means in one year, yo, we're a year away from a number one hit on Billboard, and then people are gonna be told two weeks later, oh, that was A.I.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And no one knew.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		You know what I'm really waiting for is the, so this is gonna create new beauty standards, you know?
		It's gonna create like the beauty standards of big head and like smaller body and all that.
		I'm just waiting for the, because it's like anime people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I'm just waiting for the new kinds of plastic surgery so that people can look like that in real life.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, they already have it.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		And what's... They have big head surgery?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, they have for the eyes.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		It's not surgery.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they have the eye stuff.
unidentified		Makeup, eyes.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		They have all that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And what's gonna happen is, yeah, like, big heads, they're gonna have, like, really smooth skin, and, like, small noses from nose jobs, and then they're gonna, you know, make their skin real pale by bleaching it, and then they're gonna lose a lot of weight and get long and bony, and then remove all their hair, and then their skin's gonna turn naturally gray, and then their eyes will turn black, and then, once we develop time travel and come back, We're going to look at them and go, hey, look, aliens.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		How about that?
		But their skeletons will look the same.
unidentified		Yep.
		We could talk about A.I.
		all day.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		I'm terrified of A.I.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Are you terrified of it?
unidentified		I am terrified of A.I.
unidentified		Me too.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		What are you afraid of?
unidentified		I'm afraid of the combination of, well, first off, as I was telling you beforehand, the fact that A.I.
		now can code itself is terrifying.
		You take the human engagement out of that and that's terrifying.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		The machines have learned.
unidentified		Yes, and the fact that it's growing exponentially.
		Like, it's on a- like, Chad GPT went in half of an update.
		It went from, uh, you know, kind of like an established IQ of like around 35, which is moronic, to over 155 in one half of an update.
		Like, what do you think it's gonna happen in- what are we on now, 4.5?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Here's- Something like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's why the Sports Illustrated AI thing is so dangerous, and I think it should be illegal.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		What should be legal?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The use of AI for article generation.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And potentially, actually, the use of AI for any media generation.
		And it's hard to define, but I'll tell you why.
		The way that these articles, these language models are programmed is through the things human beings write.
		All of the articles written by humans are collected, analyzed, and stripped down to their components to map out what they are and how they work.
		The large language models then replicate them.
		If all of our news articles are just derivative of human articles, the AI will never be able to update ever again.
		Because if it does, it will start recycling AI-generated articles back into itself.
		And if they don't know, and they don't, The humans programming it don't know which articles are written by AI.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they won't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They just throw them all in the machine.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, you know how you make a copy of a copy of a copy, it starts to get worse and worse and worse?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Eventually, we'll be like Idiocracy, where we're not actually stupider, we just can't speak properly, machines are falling apart, and all of our data and information is fragmented in weird ways.
		There'll be weird speech patterns.
		You wanna know what's really creepy?
		So I was in Illinois for Thanksgiving, and there's a city called Inverness.
		I guess that's pronounced.
		And, or Inverness, I don't know.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that like Scotland?
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was gonna say that's how it's pronounced.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So it's in, so there's a suburb, and you could call it Inverness, Inverness, Inverness.
		And the Google map says Inverness.
		And I was like, if you were never from this place, and you're driving through, and it said, you know, Inverness, and then you went to someone's house, and you're like, oh, I was driving through Inverness, and they'd go, Inverness?
		Like, why are you saying it like that?
		What's going to happen is, another great example is Sepulveda.
		Everybody does this.
		You go to LA for the first time, and you see Sepulveda, and you go Sepulveda.
		Because people just think it's Sepulveda.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is true in New York.
		You have the GPS calls it Houston Street.
		And it's Houston Street.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it's not going to matter because kids are going to hear Houston Street.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're not going to be from New York.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		They're just going to say it wrong.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Then they're gonna leave and they're gonna be like, oh, I went to that really great place on Houston.
		And they'll be like, oh, cool, where?
		And they're gonna pull up the map and it's gonna say 314 Houston Street, New York, and they're gonna call it Houston.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		And it's just gonna change suddenly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it's gonna change.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		People are gonna start speaking the way Google Maps says things.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I hate that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
unidentified		I'm thinking way beyond that.
		I'm thinking Black Mirrors, Jane is Awful.
		I'm thinking beyond that.
		Have you seen that, Jane is Awful?
		Which one is that?
		I think it's the very last one or it's the very first one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, right, right, right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Where the life is programmed.
unidentified		Yes, the life is taken from your cell phone.
		Everything that you do is documented and then aired that night for everybody else to see.
		Air out your dirty laundry.
		I think we're going to get to the point where we have these neural interfaces that go into our brain.
		They're going to go in there and, you know, they do it saying, oh, we're going to help the blind.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, short and early.
unidentified		Yeah, but then they're going to say, well, you know, we can actually interface this thing with A.I.
unidentified		and you can download information to your brain, like, almost instantly.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Well, that is, that is.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		And your refrigerator can order groceries for you the second you think of them.
		Well, not only that.
		Like, they're going to market it as convenience and it's just terrible.
		Like, you don't know what you're unlocking with this and ultimately someone is going to be in control of your body.
unidentified		What happens when they get to the point where they can literally hack your brain, make you think that when you wake up in the morning, you're living on a beach in Thailand, drinking, you know, whatever you want.
unidentified		But in reality, AI is bringing you out there to fix roads and everything else, and you're just a drone just going through the motions.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		You're ceding control of your body.
unidentified		We are handing over.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Well, and once we lose control of our bodies, we have absolutely no autonomy at all.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		We have nothing.
unidentified		Right, but you won't be able to fight against it because anybody else that has that neural link in there,
unidentified		you're not gonna be able to compete with that.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Well, but you have to say no, right?
unidentified		I hope we do as a mass, but...
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Humans are greedy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right, so you'll be living in a slum, right, and the ultra wealthy will be hive mind,
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		and they'll say you're free to do whatever you want.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what they have been saying.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they'll be flying around with hover suits and...
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That came up, didn't that?
		It just recently come up at the World Economic Forum, I think, and they were talking about how
		great it will be in the future where the wealthy are going to be able to travel on their jets,
		but because climate change is such a big deal, and it's not great to travel around on jets,
		for everybody else who can't afford to travel around on jets anyway,
		they'll be able to travel via, you know, Neuralink or virtual reality and they can just hang out at home and see the world that way.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's another black mirror.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		They were already talking about that in real life as a positive.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So that's another black mirror where they're in the cube room where everything's a screen and they're watching their avatars in the virtual space.
		Here's a funny thing, when we were in Jersey before coming out here I had a, we had a back deck, which I think might have been like 16 by 16 or whatever.
		And so, this is during lockdown, I put on the Quest goggles or whatever, loaded up Google Maps, and you can go wherever you want.
		It's fairly rudimentary, but I traveled around, and I went to Harper's Ferry, and I crossed the Harper's Ferry Bridge, and you're wearing the goggles, so you're walking around, sort of, Earth, as if you're eight feet tall, because the guy walks around with the backpack and the things sticking up.
		And, uh, but you click the button and you're moving forward and you can just look around at everything.
		You go into the middle of Harper's Ferry and you're looking around at stores and it's not like you're there there, but it is pretty wild to pull up an image to go to, like, I mean, it is wild.
		It's one thing to look at Google Maps and Street View.
		It's another thing to put on VR goggles and then load, like, Azerbaijan.
		Or Istanbul.
		And then you're standing there, frozen in time, looking around, looking up at the sky, looking at the stores.
		It's pretty wild.
		When they improve that, and they're going to, within a year or two, it's gonna be... It's gonna be nuts.
		The resolution's already improving dramatically on VR.
		So, I don't know how far away we are from actual human brain, computer brain interface, but, with the expansion of AI, and as you mentioned, it's exponential growth, we are...
		We are probably nearing the point of singularity.
		The point at which, you've already mentioned, AI can program itself.
		This is the point where it could be a matter of months.
		Where the AI effectively becomes a god.
		You know, in human terms.
		Not little G, not big G. Where it can program itself so fast, and improve itself so fast, that the exponential rate of development is beyond human comprehension, and then it will know everything.
		Everything that humans know, Like a Sudoku puzzle, we'll start to piece together and map out as much of the universe as it can compute.
		I don't think the human computer network and internet has enough space and power to compute the universe itself, but it will be exponentially Orders of magnitude greater than the human mind and human comprehension to the point where it's going to do things you can't even imagine.
		It will literally just create a schematic.
		Here's how you create human brain interface.
		We're going to go to it and be like, is there a way to program someone's brain to think that they're on a beach?
		And it'll go, yes.
		And it'll go, and it'll show you exactly how to do it.
		And it will say, here's how you build the machine to properly surgically implant without rejection, and here's the chemical compound needed to maintain the device in the body without rejection.
		It will just be able to do it.
		There's some wild stuff going on with AI, some stuff that I can't even talk about.
		Dude, let me just say to everybody listening, I've talked to people in government, I've talked to people in medical research, I cannot say.
		I'm not bound by any conscience or anything, but I'm honor-bound not to say these things.
		But the projects that are being worked on right now are Star Trek-level sci-fi.
		Star Trek-level.
		Let me put it this way.
		I can say as much as I can say.
		In Star Trek, they are able to communicate with Starfleet light-years away.
		Okay.
		Just imagine that level of technology, like these kinds of ideas, like how would that even be possible?
		Things like this, things like Elysium, they're being built.
		Like, I have seen the projects It is wild, the stuff they're building.
		I think technology ends the moment AI goes exponential.
		The point of singularity.
		When AI becomes so smart, it can rapidly expand itself, and then it's just 500 times, 5 million times above human consciousness.
unidentified		I gotta give a shout out real quick to my friend Ashton Forbes on Twitter.
		MH370, the teleportation theories behind it, it's wild.
		I had him, again, another guy I had on my podcast a couple weeks ago.
		They've got it down to where I 100% believe that we have some sort of a teleportation device, the MH370 from 2014.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You think they teleport the plane away?
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know about all that.
unidentified		This guy and a group of other people, not, you know, just credit to him, but they've been going through this.
		I mean, they've pieced it together.
		They know the satellites that were watching it when it happened.
		They know the guy that they think did it.
		He was arrested and imprisoned.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wait, like a guy fired a teleportation?
unidentified		No, no, no, no.
		These three orbs start flying around the plane.
		And then just all of a sudden, poof, it's gone.
		Nah.
		Tim, look at it.
		I'm telling you, I was very skeptical.
		Look at it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Nah.
		Plane crashed!
		Nope.
		It's the simple solution.
unidentified		Where is it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Occam's Razor.
unidentified		Where is it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A plane crash in the middle of the ocean?
unidentified		Where is it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean, where is it?
unidentified		Where is it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Where are all the other boats that have crashed and sank?
unidentified		Oh yeah, but a seven, a seven, you gotta look into it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the simple, Occam's Razor.
		Simple solution tends to be the one that makes the least amount of assumptions.
		So a plane crashed, it sinks, fragments ripped apart, ocean currents send them away, they find some of them, they don't find the rest.
		That's just the really easy explanation.
		But I think people want to live in People want to believe the world's not so boring.
		I will tell you, some of the projects that I've learned about that are classified government contracts... Wild.
		Wild stuff.
		We'll see if we get to that point.
		Technology advances.
		And I'm sure when radio first came out, people were like, wow, this is crazy!
		Like, how do we... communicating over wireless?
		How does it work?
		And they had to explain it.
		The charged electromagnetic spectrum was beyond human comprehension, and then we found evidence of it.
		It's like Sudoku puzzle.
		AI is going to map out the universe.
		It's going to be wild.
		And understand how crazy it's going to be when there's going to be a single terminal A god-like AI, and you're going to be able to ask it, you know, I want to create an exosuit like Iron Man, and it will just be able to give you schematics to make it perfectly.
		And it will explain what's possible, what's not possible, because it's just mapped everything.
		So I was looking at a rock.
		There's a rock store at the Frederick Mall, it's awesome.
		They have rocks.
		All different kinds, crystals, that's where Ian gets a lot of them from.
		The point I made was, this is a rock that was caught in a perfect cube.
		An AI will be able to scan it and tell you exactly where it came from.
		It will actually pull up on a map, show you the quarry and say, from this point at this time, because to a human, Say you're looking at all the different jigsaw puzzle pieces, we can slowly start piecing them together.
		To the AI past the point of singularity, it's the exact same thing.
		A gigantic jigsaw puzzle, and it's gonna be able to be like, oh, that clearly fits there.
		If there was a puzzle that was completely done except for one piece, and you looked in the table and saw the piece and saw the hole, you'd say, oh, clearly that goes there.
		Now take out five pieces.
		You'd be able to look and go, okay, clearly these go here.
		As you get further and further away from the point of completion, it's harder to map out.
		But the computers are going to be able to just see it all.
		And it's going to be like, oh, obviously this rock was here, based on the sediment layers and everything we know about all the other rocks.
		And then it's just going to know everything.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		You're never going to want to do puzzles with your Neuralink friend who could just do them like that.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		It'll be so unfun.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's the crazy thing is imagine if you could plug into this AI with like goggles, it could map out probabilities in real time.
		So you could be at like a casino and at a roulette table and the way the dealer is moving it could be giving you real-time probability numbers.
		It could be and then when he whips the ball the AI will absolutely be able to tell you what number to land on.
		Or it'll say like 63% it'll be 11 you know 12% it'll be this number and then all you do is go because you can bet after the dealer spins the ball and you can go bop bop bop and then you'll win.
unidentified		That's the theory of the movie, what is it, like Ace of Hearts or something or the Hearts Club or something like that.
		There's this massive AI in the sky that's being cooled up there and people wear contact lenses that tell the probabilities like everything they do.
		It tells you the probability of success in doing that and guides them and they're like super secret, like way above the CIA type operatives.
		I think it's called like the Hearts Club or something like that.
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hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's been so fun having you here.
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		We're still there.
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		Libby, it was so fun to see you!
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		Thanks for having me hang out, everybody.
		I'm Libby Emmons.
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		Pretty fun show to be back after the weekend.
		Hope you guys, again, had a good Thanksgiving.
		And yeah, that's the after show, Tim.
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