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Nov. 10, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Trump Says TUCKER CARLSON FOR VP, RNC Starts LYING About Vivek Ramaswamy w/Lectern Guy
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adam johnson
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hannah claire brimelow
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shane cashman
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tim pool
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unidentified
Man, that debate last night.
tim pool
I gotta tell ya, the GOP lesser-known debates didn't really care for him.
Didn't know if I wanted to watch it, but when we did, it was incredible.
Vivek Ramaswamy stole the show, shattering all the online informal polls, but you know it!
The corporate press is claiming he failed.
He did the worst.
I love it.
The New York Times saying Nikki Haley actually did the best, and Vivek did the worst.
Meanwhile, all of the trends, all the searches are Vivek, Vivek, Vivek.
He absolutely nailed it.
So of course now there's a clip going around of Ronna McDaniel who's very upset claiming that if they voted for Obama, here's the best part, Tim Cass got a scoop right after the show because of course, like, we know everybody who's basically at the debate and Ronna apparently said, As Vivek was roasting her, he's an a-hole, he's an a-hole, he's not getting a cent from us.
Vivek commented saying this is corrupt, basically calling it corruption.
So this is crazy.
The top story, however, Donald Trump said on, I think it was Clay Travis' show with Buck Sexton, that Tucker Carlson would be good for VP.
It's a question of whether or not Tucker would do it, but we keep asking this question because a lot of people are saying that the GOP debate was actually the VP debate.
Yeah, right.
As if Chris Christie wants to be VP for Trump.
Maybe Vivek, but he says he doesn't want to do it.
I personally would love to see a Trump-Carlson ticket.
That would be... I don't see how that loses.
I gotta be completely honest.
But, you know, who knows?
Who knows?
Maybe we're in a bubble.
So we'll talk about that, plus a crazy story in New Jersey.
A January 6th manhunt.
Apparently they're using APCs, helicopters, dogs.
They found a guy, they want to arrest him, and he fled.
So we'll talk about that.
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Joining us tonight, I'm gonna, which name should I use?
I call him Mr. Guy, first name Lectern, but his name's Adam Johnson.
adam johnson
Hey, thanks for having me on.
You might know me from such acts as the worst day in history since 9-11, comparable even, really.
I'm the artist formerly known as Via Getty.
tim pool
I am, uh... Oh, that's right, you're Via Getty!
adam johnson
Exactly.
tim pool
That was amazing.
So, for those that don't know, when this gentleman was taken, a photo was taken of him, Via Getty, Getty is a photography, like a photo distribution company, and what was it, someone thought that It means from Getty.
They thought your name was via Getty.
adam johnson
Yes, this is the intelligence on Twitter 1.0 that was allowed to circulate and spread these things.
tim pool
Right on.
Well, since then, you've been on a bunch of podcasts.
I heard you've given out little lecterns to people.
unidentified
I have.
tim pool
You are, of course, the guy that everyone knows, carrying the lectern and waving.
And we've had you on before, so it's great to have you back.
We've got a lot to talk about, and especially considering this manhunt, so it'll be interesting to hear about the finer details of what goes into these January 6th cases.
So, thanks for hanging out.
adam johnson
Thanks for having me.
tim pool
We've got Shane Cashman hanging out.
shane cashman
What's up?
I write for TimCast.com.
I write about what little distinction there is between ghosts, demons, and American politics.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, it's great.
I'm Hannah Klobremol.
I also write for TimCast.com.
I cover what I think is real news, but it's impossible to tell these days.
Serge is here too.
serge du preez
Yes, episode 901.
I'm excited to be here.
Tim, let's get started.
tim pool
The first story from the hill.
Trump says he'd consider Tucker Carlson as running mate.
Quote, I like Tucker a lot.
I guess I would, Trump said during an appearance on the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show this week.
I think I'd say I would because he's got great common sense.
You know, when they say that you guys are conservative or I'm conservative, it's not that we're conservative.
We have common sense.
We have to have safe borders.
We want to have a wall because walls work.
Carlson was fired by Fox News.
Blah, blah, blah.
There you go.
It's not a very big, very verbose story, but there is.
There's one legitimate reason why we talk about something like this.
It's because no one really has a good guess as to who Trump's VP is actually going to be.
And I get asked this quite a bit.
I thought Carrie Lake would be good, but she's running for Senate.
In Arizona, which makes a lot of sense, and I think that's a better use of first time, you know, honestly.
And some people are saying Vivek Ramaswamy, especially with how well he did last night.
But there's one other reason why this is our lead story.
I'm trying to manifest this.
Like, I personally would love a Trump-Carlson ticket, because what we often say is Trump needs that, like, sane, rational, calmer person.
And I think a lot of people thought it would be DeSantis.
Not DeSantis.
Tucker Carlson is massive.
And I think he could push Trump over the limit.
There's no beating that ticket.
shane cashman
Did Trump say he was going to pick a woman a few months ago?
hannah claire brimelow
No, there's just a rumor about it all the time.
shane cashman
I thought Tulsi was going to be on the ticket.
adam johnson
No, that's not a Supreme Court vote, so it doesn't have to be a woman.
tim pool
And it's not, they're not, well, I mean, what's Trump, who's Trump trying to validate?
What's he trying to prove?
shane cashman
I know.
I thought, because I thought Kerry was going to be it until she announced a run for Senate.
And then Tulsi said she was willing to work with Trump.
hannah claire brimelow
Tulsi has said stuff.
I mean, Kristi Noem has positioned herself.
There's a couple of different people who are vying for the spot, obviously.
My thing is, if Tucker becomes the VP, that could be fun, but I want him to keep his Twitter show, right?
Like, the things that we love about Tucker Carlson exist because they are outside of politics and the government.
And I wouldn't want to lose that.
tim pool
And it's a question of, too, like, how much money is Tucker losing by trying to be VP for Trump?
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
This is a big challenge.
You have to really want it.
Vivek, he's worth, what, 600-something million dollars?
So, I gotta be honest, I'm sure Vivek got to a certain point where he's like, I can't buy anything anymore.
Like, what do I want?
And he's like, well, maybe, like, one thing you can't buy, technically, is a high-ranking government position.
Although, let's be real, There's a certain level where it's all for sale.
And then there's a certain level where it's not, you know, like being VP or president is something you can only you can buy a little bit of, but you really got to push the rest.
And then you've got to basically sell promises to a bunch of evil people.
But if you want to be an ambassador, it's a cash deal.
shane cashman
After the way he talked to the moderator last night, I was like, he'd be a great press secretary.
tim pool
A lot of people are saying that.
hannah claire brimelow
But I don't think he'd want to be press secretary.
I mean, the thing that I like about Vivek is that he feels like he wants to be in charge of something.
And I think that's cool that he wants to sort of contribute in that way.
I mean, Vivek's not my choice president, although I admire him a lot.
He's great.
I have some, I would want him to be stronger on restricting legal immigration.
I've said that a million times.
Everyone's bored of this comment, but it is fun to see him out there, right?
He is shaking up politics the way that I think the same way we feel a Tucker Carlson vice presidency would shake up this established thing, we're sort of like, let's harken back to Mike Pence.
And this is not to be directly mean to him, but he just sort of faded into the background.
And we were like, yes, that one white evangelical from the Midwest, he wasn't anything until the end when he was a big problem.
And I think we would expect more from a Carlson vice presidency.
tim pool
Well, I do think, considering we're in a wacky simulation that doesn't seem to make sense at all, you're going to have to think crazier in terms of VP pick, right?
adam johnson
Kanye West.
You know, just go for it.
shane cashman
That was floated around a year ago.
tim pool
Yeah, it was.
Trump West was floated around.
shane cashman
Kanye, on True Social, I think, wrote a thing saying, I will let Trump be my VP.
adam johnson
That's right.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm sure Trump was like, thank you so much.
adam johnson
Very gracious of him.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
I mean, I think the other thing is that we are seeing people who are at the front, like, in some ways, I do think running for president for a lot of people is just to raise your national profile.
So realistically, the people who are creating the shortlist of potential VP candidates are looking beyond the people who are appearing on the debate stage.
I mean, Biden picked off the debate stage.
Kamala dropped out.
Then she got her facelift.
It was obvious she was going to be VP.
These are historical facts.
Why are you laughing at me?
But, you know, with a lot of presidents in the past, it's, I mean, who had heard of Sarah Palin really before she got tapped to be VP?
There are people that we're not aware of.
And I wouldn't be surprised if Trump's team is expanding beyond people who hold government positions.
tim pool
Yeah, but I mean, the goal of the VP is to capture the demographic that the candidate doesn't capture.
And so I think this is what, who was saying this, was it Robbie maybe?
Robbie Starbuck?
I'm not sure, they said, what demographic does Ovette capture?
He's basically got Trump voters already.
This is the funny thing.
He says all the perfect things that every Trump voter wants to hear, and they're going to smile as they vote for Trump and say, oh, hey, Vivek, and they're going to hit Trump.
adam johnson
Exactly.
tim pool
I mean, he's got it.
Like if even if he was going to be the VP, is he gaining anything for that ticket?
hannah claire brimelow
Right.
That was the argument with Mike Pence that he gave him.
He gave Trump evangelical voters in the Midwest.
He locked that down.
But I don't know if that's good.
I think that's why people want.
There's this ongoing thing that it'll definitely be a woman because, you know, it was like suburban women are the ones who pulled away from Trump the most.
So theoretically, if you put a lady in the VP office, You know, that will maybe win them back.
I don't think that's actually true.
I just think that's like a very serious stretch.
tim pool
Because then who's it going to be?
Like Kristi Noem is a maybe, but they're going to push Nikki Haley.
adam johnson
That's exactly what I was thinking as well.
She has a history with Trump already.
tim pool
She worked in the Trump administration.
adam johnson
She absolutely did.
hannah claire brimelow
I think their relationship is too contentious.
I don't think he would take Nikki Haley.
tim pool
Yeah, but look at the GOP debates in 2016, you know what I mean?
Like, it was contentious, and then everyone got past it.
This always happens.
adam johnson
Kamala called, you know, Biden a racist.
tim pool
Yeah, right?
And then she's like, no, I'm gonna go work for him!
shane cashman
That's just politics, yeah.
Right.
Right.
I think there's a lot of women who are disaffected liberals who like RFK, and that maybe there's an RFK-Trump thing happening down the ticket, is perhaps.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
I mean, I also think that we look down to, like, attorney general levels, like Chris Kobach from Kansas.
Like, there are other people who have interesting points.
I mean, the thing that rallied Trump voters, in my opinion, back in 2016, really was the wall in immigration.
That set him in a lot of ways.
He was already different from a lot of candidates, but when he said, I'm going to build the wall, that was something a lot of people rallied around.
So to pick someone, female, male, whatever, Who is taking a strong stance on immigration would in some ways reignite the base, and we know that the immigration crisis at the border is something that is starting to be a conversation in more moderate and left-leaning spheres.
Progressives will probably never vote for anyone who would build a wall, but there are other people who are feeling the burdens that might come around.
shane cashman
Eric Adams wants a wall.
tim pool
I'm feeling worried it's going to be Nikki Haley as VP, because people have floated that before.
And everyone in the room just shook their head.
shane cashman
Nikki Haley is John McCain's skeleton in a wig.
We can't have her anywhere near the White House.
And that performance last night was terrible.
I can't see her.
tim pool
Not according to the New York Times.
hannah claire brimelow
And the New York Times definitely knows how Republicans vote.
shane cashman
Two movies, one screen.
tim pool
Right now, one of the big stories we got is CNN, New York Times, AP, and Reuters journalists embedded with Hamas going to the attack on Israel.
So it's like, they knew?
But right now, a bunch of media workers are protesting the New York Times because they're not favorable to, they say Palestine, but we know what they mean by that.
So that just helps you understand the kind of people who work for the New York Times.
shane cashman
Yeah, it's interesting.
adam johnson
I said this morning, Nikki Haley was so excited to go to war that she premature bombed on stage last night.
tim pool
That's a good one.
hannah claire brimelow
I just can't get over her heel tweet.
What does that mean?
It doesn't make any sense!
It's so annoying!
tim pool
She said, I wear heels for ammunition?
What does that mean?
shane cashman
Her heels are ammunition?
hannah claire brimelow
She's giving women a bad name everywhere.
It makes you never want to wear heels again.
Be associated with that comment.
adam johnson
Pelosi said she would use her heels to stab the rioters.
She had an interview where she talked about that.
She would have taken off her heels and stabbed people with them.
shane cashman
That's what Nikki was referencing.
adam johnson
Probably.
tim pool
Is that what she's claiming?
She said, I wear heels, but they're not for fashion, they're for ammunition.
hannah claire brimelow
But then I saw that video of a reporter throwing a shoe at Bush.
I was like, oh yeah!
tim pool
Oh man, I remember when that happened.
The shoe throw.
Ah, those were the days.
adam johnson
Those were two shoes.
tim pool
We're so old.
I think it was two shoes.
hannah claire brimelow
And then you see Secret Service busting it through the back like five minutes late, to be honest.
It was not their best moment.
I mean, maybe that's what she meant.
Maybe she was just preparing to throw her shoes across at Vivek.
She was pretty angry at him.
adam johnson
Bush can dodge shoes and questions about why he went to war for 20 years.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam johnson
Yeah.
shane cashman
The left has accepted him back into, like, the good graces.
tim pool
Yeah, he threw the opening pitch recently.
shane cashman
Yeah.
Kimball had him on, like, a year or two to talk about his paintings.
hannah claire brimelow
So I went to Southern Massachusetts University in Dallas, and his presidential library is on that campus.
And I had a liberal professor tell me at one point, she's like, Nowhere in America is he more popular than at this campus, because he would come to, like, our basketball games, we'd chant USA, and, like, it's not that we like his politics, but it's like, this is kind of hilarious, we have a president who just sits in all of- he, like, would randomly show up in class.
shane cashman
Wow.
tim pool
I do need to point out, though, when Vivek said Dick Cheney in three-inch heels, the moderator cut him off, but he does say, and we've got two of them on stage tonight, That actually sliced the joke, so everyone immediately- I tweeted, I was like, wow, he called Nikki Haley Dick Cheney, and some people were like, I think he's talking about Ron, and then I played the clip back, and he literally says, and we have two of them, he was talking about both of them, but the moderator cut him off.
adam johnson
The bouquet thing to me is so silly, like, we're a bunch of grown men talking about other men's feet.
Like, is this politics now?
This is the important thing?
tim pool
I think it matters.
adam johnson
I've heard the argument about, you know, integrity and honesty, and you should be honest about yourself, and if you have to wear, you know, lifts, if it was some type of decision made by your team to make you appear taller than you said yes to, well, maybe you shouldn't have said yes to that.
shane cashman
I think it's because you can't take a joke.
I don't care how tall you are.
It's just that him or the team can't take a joke.
tim pool
It shows insecurity.
hannah claire brimelow
And it also shows who he would staff himself with, right?
Again, I thought DeSantis would have been a good VP pick.
I am very loathe to short anyone when potentially we have a long, long time.
It's going to take decades to turn America around in my opinion.
You know, with all of everything that's happened in Bootgate, it just makes it seem like he is around people who do not feel confident with doing, and so in response they're on an attack mode, and I think that's what makes Trump in comparison even more attractive to voters, because through everything he is ultimately the center of the room, this overconfident, this brash guy.
He's not the most suave, he's not the most professional always, but he acts from a place of confidence, and I think that's what Americans really crave right now in leadership.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story.
This was big news that broke after the debate.
Tim Cass with The Scoop.
Rana McDaniel overheard trashing Vivek Ramaswamy in debate audience saying he won't get a cent from us.
He's an a-hole.
Total a-hole, McDaniel said.
A source who was sitting near McDaniel told Tim Cass News that she was not attempting to keep her voice lowered.
Apparently tons of people heard this and she called him an a-hole and declared the party would not be giving him a cent.
He's an a-hole total a-hole.
He's desperate because he's doing bad in the polls.
He won't be getting a cent from us.
She was in complete meltdown over Vivek.
The source said this was in the middle of the audience with an earshot of at least 50 people.
So apparently after it, after the debate, Vivek apparently was talking to her at the edge of the stage.
Now we have this from the New York Post.
Rana McDaniel claps back at Vivek Ramaswamy.
He's at 4% and needs a headline.
This is in line with exactly what the TimCast news source said that she was saying in the audience.
And she went on to say, Something like, let me see if they have it in this story, because Vivek's, like, struck back.
Here we go, she says, I know that Vivek is kind of newer to the party.
He voted for Obama, so he may not know that.
Ramaswamy claimed he did not vote in any presidential election between 08 and 2016, voting for Libertarian Michael Badenreich in 04, and former President Trump in 2020.
So she's just losing it, and outright lying now about Vivek.
I gotta tell you, I think I know what what Ronald McDaniel and the GOP establishment is doing.
What do we keep hearing from DeSantis people?
Oh, it's Trump's fault that we're losing all these elections.
It's Trump's fault.
Oh, the Trump candidates are losing.
They are intentionally sabotaging Republicans, and we hear it nonstop.
We just had Jeremy Juskian talking about how he gets basically cut off and they sabotage him.
They're doing it so they can say, see, Trump's bad for the party.
Give us back the power.
Let us be in control and shut your mouths.
shane cashman
I saw it firsthand how antiquated the GOP is at the debate in California.
You know, these, the Nikki Haley's, the DeSantis, they all walk off the stage.
No one really cares when they walk into the press room.
You know, they get the Hannity treatment and they go away.
Carrie Lake and Vivek were the people that people, the real press swarmed, like, you know, and that was, they were the center of attention.
And Newsom, which is an issue, because like Hannity loved being around Newsom so much, which is bizarre.
But like everyone else, no one cared.
You know, Chris Christie doesn't even go to the press room.
You know, literally no one cares.
adam johnson
Yeah, he goes like the Kathleen Kennedy for the GOP.
Like, she just keeps losing for us.
And if we look at how, if I get this wrong, correct me, but even during the 2022 midterms, we saw that McCarthy was not supporting America First candidates.
unidentified
Right.
adam johnson
We saw, yes, we saw funding going actually against those candidates.
And this is the game they're playing for a long time, because you have someone that comes in that is anti-establishment, You know, it's the only reason I voted for Trump in 2020.
I didn't vote in 2016 for him.
I didn't vote at all.
But you see these things happen and you're like, man, maybe there actually is a voice pushing forward and we actually can have meaningful change.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, it makes me wonder.
I mean, if her smear to him is that he voted for Obama, you know, I believe him.
I believe he didn't.
But if he did and now he's running for president, that's a huge change.
And I think it would be interesting to talk to someone and say, how did you come from either not voting or voting for Obama to wanting to really be a part of a very serious America First movement?
It's sort of a missed opportunity on her part where she's saying you're threatening my power and she can't see what was what's actually good for the party.
shane cashman
They're elitist, they're upholding the unit party, and they hate outsiders like Trump, Vivek, Carrie Lake.
hannah claire brimelow
She's saying he's not going to get a cent from us.
I mean, Vivek has a lot of money.
I'm sure he doesn't want to spend it all on his campaign.
I'm sure donors are good and things like that.
He doesn't actually need it.
tim pool
Exactly.
And this is how you get independence within the party.
Vivek does not need to bend the knee to the corporate lobbying interests, and that's why he's able to say things that has us all riled up and all excited.
Because he's like, I don't need your money.
Screw off.
You suck.
And then they're like, well, I'm not going to give you any money.
He's like, I got more money than you do.
adam johnson
Exactly.
I have a deep concern for these people.
Let's just say Trump's not in office.
You know, we're with someone who doesn't have Trump money or Vivek money.
Do you think they're going to come after them any less than the way they came after these two people who can actually afford their court fees?
No.
It's going to be the same tactic moving forward.
We are in this now.
They will attack anyone who comes in.
Anyone.
hannah claire brimelow
And make the taxpayers pay for it.
adam johnson
Yes.
tim pool
People need to understand, Ronna McDaniel likes the Democrats more than she likes Vivek, more than she likes you.
She will absolutely shake the hand and smile, you know, shake the hand of like Gavin Newsom and smile and everything while calling Vivek an a-hole.
The establishment Republican Party sabotaged Republicans, helping Democrats win because they did not want to lose power in the party establishment.
adam johnson
Yes.
shane cashman
Exactly.
hannah claire brimelow
Which is the opposite of America First.
tim pool
But you know what, man?
Look, Patrick Bette David put out a poll and said, who do you think, you know, won or whatever?
And Vivek, 80, 90%, I think it was like 91, 92%.
And then you look at the New York Times and everything, and they're like, oh, he did the worst.
The machine hates Vivek.
But you know what?
Vivek is effectively the right-leaning leader of the millennial generation.
And I don't see any other way to phrase this.
He is running for president.
He is 38 years old.
Imagine where he's going to be in 10 or 15 years.
He is going to be one of the most prominent personalities speaking to the more centrist to conservative factions within the millennial generation.
And to a great extent, Gen Z.
But when we hear the things that he's saying, it very much resonates with many of us.
It's like a wide range.
Maybe you could even say the key demo.
Because Nikki Haley's not talking to anybody.
Who's she talking to?
Rhonda Sanders, a little bit.
But he's still trying to capture that old neocon energy.
Vivek's the only one who, it seems like, is saying, you'll see me in four years.
shane cashman
Right.
Vivek also is the only one who really speaks like a human being on that stage, you know?
It sounds like he's done podcasts, like, you know, RFK as well, Tucker, obviously.
These people can talk with depth for a long amount of time.
hannah claire brimelow
He's extremely charismatic.
shane cashman
Oh, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
And you can't manufacture that.
I mean, that's just the way it is.
I think one of the best parts about Vivek is that he is so young and full of energy.
I mean, I just fundamentally believe that he is capable of doing a lot and that's good for the party.
The fact that they will not embrace him, number one, tells us that he's probably good.
I mean, if Ron McDaniels doesn't like them, that is a reason to maybe research them and be interested a little bit more.
But he's going to last.
If he doesn't get what he wants out of this election, I'm sure he will do something else.
And that's what I think young Republicans or young conservative-leaning people, even independents, need to see.
That it's not just fall in line or stop, it's keep going no matter what.
tim pool
We're taking it over.
adam johnson
I do think Gen Z will probably wake up at the next five to ten years because they're still very young.
You know, I don't blame them for being young.
They're just young.
But as they continue to live life and they don't have an opportunity to buy a home, they're paying 800 bucks for buying a car because interest rates are also high on those as well.
They're going to realize what we're voting for is not working.
They will see the effects of their decisions, but it's going to take some time.
And the VEC will be there four years from now to say, hey, are we ready now?
But I've said this so many times.
I don't think people are ready yet.
I think there will have to be a measure of suffering that will have to continue.
tim pool
Yep.
adam johnson
It's sad.
tim pool
However, I agree with you.
I will say the only thing that matters to me is that we win culturally, because for too long, people on the right, conservatives, have thought we've got to win the votes.
We've got to win the votes.
And Democrats have been saying, get them when they're kids.
It's like the cigarette companies.
Yo, get him while they're young.
Get him to smoke early.
And so, this is the general idea.
My concern right now, I look to what the Daily Wire is doing with Bent Key, and I'm like, that's huge.
That's huge.
Give families an opportunity to give their kids something that's not garbage.
And then, what we're talking about doing is, we put out a documentary, Infringed, with Lauren Southern.
We put out Game of Money, with Ben Stewart.
We're making way more, and the goal there is, what are we gonna do?
Are we gonna take the money that we make from running this, like doing this show, and doing these other shows, and then try and campaign to win elections?
That to me is nuts.
But we put up these documentaries, we keep pushing them, and we create a library of entertaining content, we make music, we're working on the skate show, the boonies, we got pro skateboarders coming down, we want to own this space.
So, shout out to Richie Jackson, Pro skateboarder.
He took a picture.
Oh man, I love this.
I wake up in the morning, I'm sitting on the toilet, and I'm scrolling through Instagram, because that's what we do, and I see Shredder News, the skateboarding news outlet, and sure enough, there's the picture that Richie posted the other day with Lauren Southern, pro skateboarder, taking a picture with Lauren Southern, holding fake guns, they're toys, and it's with the infringed logo.
And I think he just did it because he thought it was funny.
And it created a quote-unquote backlash in the skate culture.
And I'm like, this means that these teenagers... Richie's an amazing dude, and he's like a superstar.
He's this very unique skater.
Happy birthday to Richie.
And, uh, there are people who go up to him and they're like, dude, you're my favorite skater, they're so excited to meet him, and they see that he's fearless, and he's willing to support things that he agrees with, he's not scared of what these activists say to him, that's what we want to build.
And so, I can look to the vacant, I can cheer him on, I can look at all the voting stuff, but I'm like, Let me tell you exactly what our plan is, and I'll simplify it in this way.
A story some of you may have heard me say, or a general idea.
Pro athlete says, I'm too scared to speak up about males competing against females because I'll lose my sponsors.
Then I say, okay, our company makes enough money to sponsor you.
We'll sponsor you.
Will you speak up now?
And they'll go, oh, okay, great.
Then the other company will say, hey, if you post those Instagram things arguing about politics, we're gonna drop you as a sponsor.
And then that athlete can say, However much money you think you'd lose from me posting this image, you're gonna lose tenfold when I include you in my complaint.
I make more than enough money with my other sponsors, I don't need you anymore.
So I've been telling pro skateboard companies this, and they're salivating.
Why?
Many of these guys in pro skateboarding hate wokeness.
There are rebels that want to push security guards and do stupid garbage.
I tell them not to do that, by the way.
And they're walking on eggshells.
But they're scared they'll get attacked.
And I said, don't worry.
We're going to flood the zone.
We're going to build media.
And we're going to be the tip of the spear on this one.
And then once we pave the way, you can say, don't look at me.
But the money will be there.
That's the point of building culture.
Then the young people who are growing up are going to see fearless freedom, punk rock, et cetera.
We can say what we want.
You can't shut us up.
And that's how we push back on the boat garbage.
adam johnson
I don't think you're creating culture, you're creating counterculture then.
That's what you're producing.
And to Hannah's point, it's not going to take four years, it's not an election, it's a generation.
When these Gen Zers have kids, the ones they don't abort, their kids aren't going to want to follow what their parents are doing.
Kids want to have counter thoughts to their parents' thoughts.
tim pool
You can't immediately assume that Gen Z is leftist or liberal.
I just saw a poll today that Gen Z, out of I think all generations, has the more males who reject identifying as feminists.
So let me rephrase it.
There was a chart saying like Gen Z, Millennial, X, and Boomers, and Gen Z males are the least likely to claim they're feminists.
adam johnson
So it's like, you know, and the females are the most likely, which is... They're angry at females because they're not getting laid.
Because the top 5% that are attractive are the ones getting all the swipes on Twinder.
That's what's going on.
And they're just mad at females.
And they're rejecting it.
hannah claire brimelow
I think the youngest generation is used to being divided, and I think they will not stay that way as they become older, right?
As they age into their 20s, 30s, things will change.
And right now we're seeing a reckoning.
They are now turning to the people who, you know, led them here, right?
When we see everything that's going on with Israel and Palestine and Hamas, they are saying, you know, we believe one thing, but the establishment believes another thing.
Do we even belong here anymore?
I think a lot of them will shift more independent.
I don't think it'll be a perfect, you know, just they all march right over and register as Republicans, but I think generally they are used to being divided and so therefore they won't mind being unaffiliated.
tim pool
And I gotta stop you there.
I think you're completely wrong.
They don't hate women.
They aren't mad they're not getting laid.
They're angry that feminism has created a world in which women are going on OnlyFans and not seeking relationships.
And these are guys, many of these men are just like, look, I just want to have like a wife and have a family.
And there are many women saying the exact same thing.
But women are feeling pressured like they have to go and work, and men are struggling to compete in this hyper-sexualized hookup culture marketplace.
So you're getting young guys who are just like, this is F. This does not work.
Women, of course, I think the reason why Gen Z females are the most likely to say they're feminists, they have to.
It's peer pressure.
It's social pressure.
Women are more susceptible to social pressure than men are.
So the guys are just like, get out of here with that stuff.
I can't stand it.
And what do they want?
Guys probably just want to get married.
I mean, look, there are many guys who just want to get laid.
That's true.
But I think the average guy just wants to get married.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I think that's fair, and I think there is intense social pressure.
I mean, I felt this way when I was, you know, in public high school, doing whatever, and they were like, well, if you're a woman, you have to be a feminist.
You have to be a feminist.
You have to be a feminist.
And, you know, every generation that is surveyable right now, this is a Pew Research study, The majority of all age groups identify as feminists, but yet women aren't happy and hopeless.
So we know, I mean, there's a reason that Jezebel shuddered today, right?
Like the feminist publication couldn't survive, yet we have Evie magazine on the rise.
I mean, there is a desire... Explain Evie.
So Evie is, I just know it as an alternative women's magazine, they particularly pay attention to more traditional values and they promote femininity over feminism and I love the work that they do and I think that they are, you know, One of the reasons I got into them is that they were just interested in, you know, classical beauty.
They're not trying to make you cut all your hair off and dress ambiguously.
They're just saying you should like being a woman, and that's cool.
And I think there are lots of young women who are looking for that.
And the thing is, women skew towards wanting, you know, emotional and social acceptance, and that can be a strength.
I don't mean to, like, downplay it at all, but that means if all the women around you say, I'm a feminist and men are bad, then you are likely to also think, Maybe that's the way.
And we have new outlets coming out that are offering them an alternative.
So even though the majority of young women today, Gen Z, may say they're feminist right now, I wonder if that will change.
And you'll get the stories that are like, I regret identifying as feminist.
My mom raised me, my intense feminist mother raised me, and she was wrong.
I love her, but this was not the right path.
Because ultimately the genders aren't supposed to be enemies, they're supposed to be partners.
adam johnson
A lot of it's going to be too late though.
A lot of these girls who are OnlyFans who are doing these things, it's going to be too late for them.
Men don't want that.
Men do not want that.
tim pool
It's crazy.
Every day we see more and more stories about women being like, I quit my job and I did OnlyFans and wow, I made so much money.
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And it's just like, wow, that's poison.
tim pool
Absolute poison.
But this is what modern leftist and feminism promotes, the sex positive culture.
And it is really fascinating that what are we getting?
Women's sports are slowly, you know, males are competing in women's sports, and women are quitting their careers as doctors, nurses, police officers, as professional fighters, to do porn.
hannah claire brimelow
They're the most sexually objectified they have ever been, and this is what feminism is saying, like, good, this is what we wanted, unless a man does it.
Then it's bad, except also who's paying for your OnlyFans.
adam johnson
Men are clicking, men are paying.
tim pool
That's right.
shane cashman
I know a lot of women who adapted those feminist qualities throughout high school, never got married, and now they're my age, I'm 38, and they still act like they're in high school or college.
That's all millennials, dude.
tim pool
This is what I've been saying about millennials, why I loathe the millennial generation.
They have this mentality that you can't be a boss.
This is communism, okay?
And this is a component of communism.
And I think it comes from college.
It's not at its root college.
It's what college has become.
You've got a kid.
He grows up from 0 to 5, does nothing.
At 5 years old, he begins kindergarten.
Maybe there's preschool there and daycare and stuff, little bits here and there, but mostly nothing.
5 years old to what, 13?
You've got grade school.
They're told what to do.
Then high school.
They're told what to do.
Then college.
They're told what to do.
They graduate at 22 and they say, what should I do now?
The government comes around and says, we'll tell you what to do.
This is why I think we don't see very many millennial politicians.
It's why we don't see... It's why you get all these millennials complaining about boomers have all the wealth, they're hoarding the wealth, and I'm like, it's because millennials aren't doing anything.
And I think the reason is, millennials have this mental block.
Where they think they're not good enough and someone else is in charge.
So this is, and that's exemplified by looking at a presidential election with a bunch of octogenarians, or septogenarians.
Why is everybody so old?
Don't get me wrong, Ron DeSantis is up there, okay?
Vivek, of course, is up there, but it's few and far between.
And again, boomers control the wealth.
Why?
Millennials keep saying, the boomer's my boss.
Instead of saying, I'm gonna be my own boss and start a business.
Then they go, but it's so hard to get money, it's so hard to do.
Ask any of these people how they started their business.
They started from nothing.
Look at the business we're building here.
We started with nothing, quite literally.
Like, I got a job, I saved up money, I got a better job, I saved up money, and then I started my independent business practice and slowly built up to this point.
There's no secret.
It's sacrifice, You know, grind through the mud and the dirt, work your fingers to the bone, and build it up.
hannah claire brimelow
I think you also have to be willing to accept responsibility, though, and I think that's what a lot of millennials don't want.
They have this desire to stay childish in so many ways, and that keeps them from, you know, all good things take a little bit of risk, right?
So if you really want to run your own business, you have to accept that that will come with some responsibility.
You may have to be, you know, responsible for providing your own health insurance or whatever it is, or you don't get that and they would ultimately rather have someone to blame.
tim pool
You know, I think, when I, if I'm watching someone play a video game, and they're bad at it, I get really frustrated.
And I'm just like, can I, give me the controller, like, dude, you're not jumping right, let me do it!
And then I'll be like, watch.
hannah claire brimelow
You can never watch me play a video game.
tim pool
No, I can't.
I'm like, leave, I'll play, I'll do my thing.
I struggle with watching other people try to solve problems that I feel like I could solve faster and better.
And call me arrogant, call me cocky, call me whatever you want.
That is the mentality that leads me to look my 40-year-old boss in the eye when I'm 16 and say, you're a moron, I could do your job better than you, I quit.
And I leave. I'm not kidding. When I was 16, I was working at a fast food restaurant,
and I guarantee you I could have done a better job than the manager they hired. Why?
Because I had experience doing managerial work at my family's cafe when I was 12.
So I'm like, I saw my mom do all this stuff. She taught me some of it.
Then I see a guy who gets hired, has zero experience, but you know, he was an assistant manager, you know, at a
different shop.
So when he comes in here, he doesn't understand how anything works.
Everything's kind of getting jammed up.
Everything's bad, like scheduling is bad.
And I'm like, bro, I've been here longer than you.
I know how this works better than you.
They hired you for arbitrary reasons.
So I said, I ain't doing this.
I'm out.
I'm gonna do my own thing.
What do I do?
I've done a bunch of things in my life to make money.
One day I'm like, I need to pay my rent.
So I took my guitar and I went down and I played in the subway in Chicago.
And then I got yelled at and said, you need a permit.
So I went, I went downtown, paid the five bucks, got the permit, went back, got into a fight with some guy who was dancing with a football because he's like, this is my spot.
And I'm like, okay.
And I would make probably 15 bucks an hour just Playin' guitar.
I'd play for two or three hours, top 40s.
I'd make like 45 bucks, and then I'd go put it in the bank, and then I'd be done.
I'm like, that was so much fun, I'm just jammin', playin' the guitar.
Then I figured something out.
I went to Wrigley, baseball field, right as a game was ending, I made $200 in one hour, cause everybody's wasted, and I was like, wow.
Why would I get a job?
And all my friends were like, I'm broke, I need a job.
And I'm like, look man, I'll be honest, I've had jobs, right?
I went and worked at a bar.
It was hard to find jobs.
I worked at the airport for a couple of years.
And then it was actually after the airport, I decided I'm gonna go just play guitar on the street and make money.
And then eventually I got bored and worked for nonprofits and stuff like that.
But ultimately it always comes down to what I see today is people who say, it's either the get out of my way and let me do it, or I ain't touching that, that's your problem.
adam johnson
I think you're explaining a solution-oriented mindset, right?
A lot of kids don't learn how to fail because we just do it for them.
And a lot of millennials, they weren't allowed to fail.
They got all their trophies, they were just pushed through grades, and they never had to figure out how to find a solution to get better at something.
My kids, I love when they fail.
It is the most exciting thing that I see from them because they only get to talk about finding solutions.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam johnson
Well, how did you fail at this thing?
What thing did you do wrong?
Well, what could you try differently next time?
And my kids, they find solutions.
They fail a couple of times and they get better at it.
shane cashman
I wish that wasn't rare, but I do the same with my kids and you've got to let them fail.
That's the big lesson.
I think the system we're in infantilizes young men and women.
And so they're risk averse, like you were saying earlier, and you can see that even in little things.
tim pool
And lazy.
shane cashman
Oh, and super lazy, but like, even little things like they're afraid to pick up the phone, you know?
Because they're afraid of even answering and talking to a real person, you know?
That's crazy!
tim pool
I recorded a segment today, which is coming out tomorrow on my TimCast news channel, of this woken woman getting pulled over for a DUI, she's driving the wrong way down the road, she smells like alcohol, she gets pulled over and she admits to having several drinks, And the cop is so nice.
And she's like, I'm non-binary.
And he's like, okay, man, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'll try my best.
And then he's like, can you walk in a straight line for me?
And she's like, no, because I have mental health issues and like generational trauma.
And then when he finally decides, there's one point where he's like, follow my finger.
No, ma'am, follow my finger.
I'm trying, but you're trying to intimidate me.
And he's like, I don't know how I'm doing that.
Then when he finally decides to arrest her, she's like, dude, you're being a white man.
And this is what's going on in their brains.
She was driving the wrong way down the road into oncoming traffic after having several drinks.
I don't want to say she's drunk.
I don't know.
She had three drinks, maybe.
And so she gets pulled over for it.
Get out of the car!
And she's like, I don't want to get out of my car.
And he goes, we're past that now.
Out of the car.
She's like, okay.
And then she said, you're being a white man.
Think about the mental perspective she must have on He's driving drunk the wrong way down the road, and it's the fault of the officer for being a white man.
shane cashman
Did she go to Evergreen College?
Where Brett Weinstein was?
Remember, like, they were yelling at the guy for being like, the hand movements are aggressive.
You know, put them down.
tim pool
But they were lying about that.
Because after he stopped, they all laughed at him.
shane cashman
Oh yeah, no.
They were using that against him, for sure.
adam johnson
Did he identify himself as a white male?
How did she know?
tim pool
That's right.
hannah claire brimelow
So she just used it like a slur, which is also telling, right?
What if she had said, like, oh, you're acting like a Korean man?
Like, would that mean something different?
No, it's only to insult him as a white man.
tim pool
One of the funniest things is she goes, I have really bad social anxiety.
And then he goes, you and me both.
And then she goes, OK.
Like, uh-oh, your stupid lie and excuse and victimization didn't work on this guy.
She tried every card in the book, and then she got arrested.
But this is the generation that gets created.
It is not all Millennials, obviously.
You know, I'm a Millennial.
I don't know, how old are you?
adam johnson
I'm 38.
tim pool
We're all Millennials!
Look at us, sitting here.
Oh, those dang Millennials.
They ruined Millennialism.
They ruined the generation.
Yeah.
adam johnson
I had a grandfather.
I think it made a big difference.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam johnson
I think grandfathers are like, they're the gatekeepers of the old ways.
And most of our generation can't even find their fathers.
shane cashman
Totally.
tim pool
That's so sad.
hannah claire brimelow
Did you spend a lot of time with your grandfather?
Sorry.
adam johnson
I was just gonna say.
He was my hero.
This man, a couple of motorcycle accidents.
Last one, he rolled 15 times.
He had multiple skin grafts to the eye hanging out of his face, you know.
They told him, you have brain damage.
You're never going to exist the way you did.
This man went back to school and got a PhD.
And he got several letters that served against his aim.
Spent the rest of his life helping drug addicts, alcoholics.
This man is my hero.
tim pool
My grandpa once, uh... I may have told this story.
I made a peanut butter and jelly sandwich when I was staying with him when I was 18.
And he was gonna give me a ride somewhere, and then he's like, come on, let's get out of here!
And then I looked down at the sandwich and I was like, ugh, I'm gonna throw it away.
He's like, what's wrong with it?
And I was like, it's got mold on it.
He walks over, grabs it, shoves it in his mouth, and he goes, do you have any idea what we ate during the Depression?
Let's go!
shane cashman
I was going to say, like, it's so important to talk to the older people in your life.
And if you have a grandfather, grandma, like I interviewed mine for hours before he passed away for years.
You know, I have multiple hours of interviews with him because I could learn about you learn about so much time before you hear war.
You know, he was a cop in New York City in the 70s when it was all on fire.
Then he was a hearse driver.
So kind of like ran the gamut of like death, war, life, you know, marriage and all these things.
And a lot of people don't have that access to someone who's older.
hannah claire brimelow
And also you have to foster family relationships, right?
Like I, my parents were older when they had kids anyways, but also my parents were immigrants to the US.
So we didn't see our grandparents that often.
And I think about now, you know, Technology is so advanced where, like, your kids' grandparents could call them on the phone.
They could have access.
And it's, like, we don't appreciate what we have in that connection because we're so busy saying, the older generation did this.
And, you know, I'm here to blame the boomers for all kinds of stuff, too, but also they were your parents.
You should get to know them.
And I think part of growing up is accepting that your parents are humans and have faults and have failed.
And so many people aren't ready to do that, even though they are at an age where they could become parents.
shane cashman
And learning from their mistakes, kind of like how you watch your kids learn from their mistakes, right?
Because they got a ton of, they can tell you about too.
adam johnson
I still have dinner with my grandma once or twice a month.
I bring all the kids over because it's important.
shane cashman
This is why I hate Rahm Emanuel's brother.
I forget his name, but he wrote that article.
I think it might have been in Time Magazine.
tim pool
Jim Emanuel.
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Maybe?
shane cashman
I forget.
But he wrote the thing about how old people should let themselves die.
We shouldn't have a society without old people.
And as I'm reading that article, my kid was downstairs with his great-grandma, learning about history the same way I did, from the same woman, from her perspective.
And I was like, this is just straight-up evil.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, but they don't want you to have family.
I mean, the nuclear family, like the mom-dad-children relationship is really important, but the extended family is a gift into itself.
And if you have a strong extended family with good values who can support each other, then you are less reliant on the government enemies, which is exactly what they don't want.
shane cashman
Exactly.
They want to destroy the family, and it goes back to infighting.
Infantilizing everybody so that when you are 21, 22, the government steps in as a mommy daddy.
hannah claire brimelow
There are certain countries, I think Iceland is one of them, that will give grandparents tax breaks or some kind of, you know, income or whatever if they are going to, instead of, you know, enrolling the kid in daycare or state-sponsored school or whatever, if they stay with the grandparents.
And the grandparents are the ones who take care of them while the parents are working or doing whatever.
That means that, like, instead of a stranger, your parents, who potentially you have a good relationship with, would be spending time with your children in an environment that tends to your child's specific needs because they love and care about them.
Like, that's a great system.
tim pool
Now, here's the challenge.
We all recognize this issue because we were raised well.
And there are other people who don't care at all because they were not.
You can't go to one of these millennials and be like, listen, it's very important and here's why, because they're gonna say, you're nuts, I don't care, where's the sex party at?
And then when they're, oh man, I am not looking forward to aging millennials, right?
One of the debate questions about raising the age of retirement and social security, it is gonna be wild when you have a whole bunch of single, isolated, childless individuals Like, just demanding the government pay their bills for them.
What is the marketplace going to look like?
shane cashman
The government's going to give you 3D printed suicide pods.
adam johnson
I think, you know, I would not be surprised... Justin Trudeau just got an erection after hearing that.
tim pool
That's why MADE is emerging, most likely.
shane cashman
Seriously.
tim pool
I would not be surprised if the younger generations forcefully enact some kind of homing for aging millennials.
And I'll tell you why.
Right now the market for, you know, look, millennials are in their 30s.
It's like early 30s, maybe late 20s, but mostly early 30s to late 30s.
These are people who can still run and jump and somersault and backflip and eat pizza, but ah man, once you're getting around 37, 38, you gotta cut the salt down, you gotta be careful what you're eating, you gotta start stretching more on these things.
Imagine what it's gonna be like when they're 50 and 60, and they can't do any of these things, but they're still single and childless.
What will they do?
We are going to have a wave of stories about a strange stench coming from an apartment building.
It is not... These happen periodically.
It's like neighbors notice a strange smell and found Edna had passed away several days earlier.
shane cashman
Happened down the road from me in my hometown.
tim pool
It is going to be... It is going to be nuts.
And there's... I would not be surprised if a law gets passed where it's like checkups have to be performed on anybody over the age of 65 because of how many dead bodies are being found isolated in their homes.
I'll tell you what's scary.
A scary thought.
Is that you could be Twenty-five years old.
Take a shower in the morning, in your one bedroom apartment, you're single, you got work, and you step out of the bathtub, and you slip, and you hit your head on the sink, and you're dead.
And no one knows.
And then a week goes by, and they're like, damn, at twenty-five?
Now it's rare, right?
It gets increasingly more likely when you get older, and you start falling, and you're out of shape.
It's going to be nuts when we have, like, I mean, it's going to be tens of millions more millennials who are single and childless in their 60s living in studios.
It's going to be absolutely nuts.
They're going to, and if there's no family member to put them in a home, what happens?
Mass elderly homelessness of millennials.
And then So, one of the things that may happen is, they're going to vote for weird, crazy, communist garbage.
And that may start, that will absolutely extract from the younger generation.
Already, social security is insolvent.
The older generation is getting paid, and the younger generation is paying for it.
But we're not having kids!
So population is going to decline.
Then social security won't be maintained, and millennials are going to be old, and they're going to say, no, I paid, I get my fair share!
And the younger generation is going to be like, we can run faster than you.
We're going to send in the law enforcement to bring you to homes, and that's going to be your welfare.
shane cashman
What scares me also is the amount of SSRIs those depressed people are going to be taking, and how many more people are going to be on these pills, and how crazy they're going to get, you know, after all that depression.
They're not hooked up to the metaverse.
tim pool
Exactly.
I was going to say, this is why they are trying so hard to make the neural link in the metaverse, so then they can just strap you in the pod, sink the pod into the ground, lock it up, and then you're in the matrix.
shane cashman
And it doubles as the suicide pod.
adam johnson
I looked at the numbers.
I think it's about 30 or 40% SSRI intake across the past 10 years.
Yeah.
I think it's about 30 or 40%.
It's a ridiculous number.
shane cashman
Yeah, it's insane.
It's insane.
It's really scary.
hannah claire brimelow
And there's not, like, most people who take SSRIs are just on them forever, which I don't want to be, you know, too general that there are people who really benefit from it.
They aren't saying, have you considered changing your lifestyle?
Have you considered changing your diet?
Have you considered, you know, exercising more?
Have you thought about, you know, stop hanging out with all these people that make you miserable?
Instead, it's just sort of like, continue to pay for therapy and SSRIs indefinitely, forever.
adam johnson
No, just give me a pill.
Why isn't that working?
You mean I can't keep living immorally?
tim pool
But it won't be a pill.
Eventually, it'll be a plug.
It'll be...
I think it'll be like a, you know how the Apple laptop chargers work?
They're magnets and it just clicks in.
It doesn't actually interlock, it just snaps.
That's what it's gonna be for the Neuralink.
There's gonna be thin copper cables that go into your, I think that's what they're doing, it goes into your cerebellum or whatever.
shane cashman
And you'll have like a little metal pad and you'll just take a little magnet thing and it'll stick right to it and then you'll... Well, Elon's looking for people right now if they want to sign up to volunteer because FDA has approved human trials where the robot he built will cut open your skull and thread the implant into your brain.
tim pool
Yes, yes.
unidentified
Cool.
tim pool
This is for people who are blind, deaf, paralyzed.
I'm totally fine with that.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
But the problem is we know where it goes.
shane cashman
Exactly.
tim pool
And you're going to have some 60 year old millennial woman being like, I just don't have any friends anymore and I'm so lonely.
And they're going to be like, would you like to be 20 again and go partying back on the north side of Chicago?
Plug on in, baby, and sit in the pod and we'll pump you full of bugs.
adam johnson
Right. We saw a different thing.
I would be like the head of the DOJ.
tim pool
All the FC.
Yeah.
You choose to live in the reality where you get justice and you're locked in the pod with a smile on your face.
adam johnson
Everyone on the island's getting arrested.
unidentified
Send me in.
hannah claire brimelow
I think that's the thing, though.
One of the battles for reinvesting in culture and reinvigorating culture is to make it so that life outside the pod is better and worth it.
Even when things are hard, it is more desirable to be there.
You know, if you can go into the pod, I guess you could see all your loved ones or whatever else, but they're not real.
Like, you have to want the reality enough, even with the bad parts of it.
And I think we have generations that are being trained to numb themselves and avoid things always, which makes the neural link sort of an inevitable reality, because it's the ultimate numbing.
It takes you out of who you are.
shane cashman
COVID lockdowns accelerated the divorce between people who hate reality, like nature, right?
And you saw a lot of people stay in their homes.
I know people who had young kids who did not leave their home for five to six months.
And they could get their groceries delivered.
They could be safe.
Somehow they still got COVID in the apartments.
That's another story.
But their identities meant more to them online.
So their digital identities took over their physical identities.
Which is why Metaverse is going to take over, which is why it's hilarious the other day when we're sharing the image of that person who had their avatar as the girl, Sydney, whatever the name was, right?
But in real life, it's just a trans person who's like a 50-year-old dude with a ponytail.
tim pool
We've talked about it.
It's the movie Surrogates.
You've seen it?
No.
It's a world where everyone sits in a pod and they have a robot version of themselves go out and work.
It's safer.
And there's like this hot chick making out with a guy.
There's an accident that happens.
And so they try and track down the owner of the surrogate.
And they find a 500 pound morbidly obese man in a pod.
Also dead because some crazy thing happened.
But the point is they were like, oh that hot chick you're making out with?
500 pound morbidly obese man.
shane cashman
That's like OnlyFans right now, and there's guys messaging women whose, the messages are coming from dudes in like wherever they're from, you know, Idaho.
tim pool
You know, the crazy thing is people don't care.
On Instagram, you have a whole bunch of AI-generated accounts, and they say they are, and it's crazy.
People are commenting like, you're so beautiful.
I'm like, it says AI-generated person.
They don't care.
shane cashman
They don't care.
adam johnson
But there's no risk telling AI, you're beautiful, right?
There's no risk in doing that.
It's not actually going out and having to meet a girl and say, hey, I think you're pretty, and I'd love to take you to dinner.
tim pool
Look, have you ever played a video game with cheat codes?
shane cashman
Game Genie.
tim pool
It gets boring.
Yeah.
So what happens is typically the way you do it is you play the game, you beat it, once you're done, then you play with cheat codes for fun to explore the game.
But after a while you're like, I can do whatever I want whenever I'm over and I'm bored.
This is what Metaverse is going to be like if, unless people choose to enter simulated realities with rules and limits, otherwise they'll get bored real quick.
shane cashman
Which is the end goal of communism, to make people feel like they're the god.
It's a false, like, reality of them being the god, whereas obviously, though, that's not the case, because the god becomes the government, and then they destroy you, but they want to make you pretend that you're in charge and have agency.
hannah claire brimelow
It makes me feel like we're on the cusp of a lot of people waking up to this.
I mean, I'm a girl, so I like a lot of relationship podcasts, and a lot of them, you'll have girls calling in, talking about breakups, and being like, he was just really controlling, he wanted to control me, and it's like, Yes, because ultimately that is the same guy who will pick to be in the neural link so that he can control the entire environment around him.
Like, we're all headed the same direction.
tim pool
We're gonna jump to this story, and it's the perfect segue.
As we're talking about living in a simulation and the AI, I present to you this.
An urgent manhunt is underway in the New Jersey town of Helmetta for a suspect in connection to the January 6th Capitol attack.
Gregory Yetman evaded arrest and fled into the woods near his home.
Let's see, ABC has the latest from the scene.
They actually interviewed his neighbor, whose name is Stasi.
shane cashman
Bro.
tim pool
Okay, like really quick, the big breaking news is a J6er is currently on the run.
They're using APCs, dogs, they're hunting him down, but the neighbor's name is Stasi and everyone's just kind of sitting back being like, yo, we're in a simulation.
shane cashman
Even better segue from the last topic is that it's hell meta.
That's the future, when we're all in the metaverse.
That is hell, and that is meta.
tim pool
Wow, dude, that's crazy!
It's a simulation.
Hell, meta.
shane cashman
The problem with the simulation is the writers of the simulation are so bad, right?
Like, they're on strike or something, and it's so on the nose.
tim pool
Hell, meta.
Meta will be hell.
shane cashman
Dude, we should copyright that right now.
tim pool
That's amazing.
I mean, so this is the big story.
I, you know, I don't want to get all sci-fi and creeping crazy with it.
adam johnson
This is a guy who... Another ginger, look at that.
tim pool
Yeah, they're coming after him.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you feel persecuted?
tim pool
Yeah.
So, so apparently the story is that he had already spoken with the FBI and they cleared him and then something happened with USA Today where they revealed more information about him and then the feds went to go serve an arrest warrant and he ran into the woods.
hannah claire brimelow
The guy who did something three years ago is now a breaking news manhunt.
This makes no sense to me.
tim pool
Yo, and they're shutting schools down.
hannah claire brimelow
A non-violent person.
tim pool
Shelter in place order.
Well, hold on.
We don't know this guy was non-violent.
I don't want to say that, right?
There were people there who were absolutely violent, and I don't know if they have photos of what he was doing or whatever while he was there, but maybe he was.
This guy was in the National Guard at the time of J6.
That's kind of crazy.
adam johnson
He brought a Humvee.
Did you see that?
tim pool
What, to J6?
adam johnson
Yeah, there's a picture of it.
He must have done it.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you know him from the group message?
Can you text him and ask him to run through the woods here?
No, I mean, maybe he was violent, but at the same time, it is crazy to me that they are still arresting people in connection to January 6th, in perpetuity forever and ever, the end.
I am skeptical that if he was such a dangerous person that they would have let it go this long.
tim pool
I'm sorry, I just gotta say this, like, there was something that happened a couple years ago related to Trump that was so insane, like, I was, I'm like, we're in a simulation.
Like, how could this possibly be?
I can't remember exactly what happened, we talked about it on the show, and everyone was laughing, like, this is nuts.
Now, we're literally talking about how weird all of this is, and we have a J6er fleeing into the woods, whose neighbor's last name is Stasi, in the town of Helmetta.
shane cashman
Look, this is what I'm saying about post-reality.
Post-reality is the totality of events occurring, both digital and physical, as a simulation burns.
But the simulation is not the 0s and 1s type of simulation.
I believe the simulation is being engineered by, like, corporate press and governments.
No, look, look.
tim pool
We're in the final seasons.
Like, you know the first few seasons of Simpsons were just awesome?
Like, the first nine.
And then after that, it's just been like a downward spiral of, like, they're not gonna let the show end.
shane cashman
All the good writers left.
tim pool
Right.
I think this is where we're at.
And what we're getting is they're just, they have no creativity anymore.
So they're like, it's a guy whose neighbor is the Stasi or something.
Well, we can't just run those.
Her name is Stasi.
Oh, that's good.
I like that.
Do that.
shane cashman
It's like an SNL sketch.
adam johnson
I know.
shane cashman
It's ridiculous.
adam johnson
Or maybe they're exhibitionists and they just want to be seen.
tim pool
I don't know, man.
Like this is crazy stuff.
We say simulation, but the reality is I'm sure a lot of Christians are just like, this is God's universe.
Like you're starting to see it.
You know what I mean?
shane cashman
That's how I feel.
I think we're in base reality, God's reality, and that people are engineering this false reality on top of us.
Not to say that this guy running around is, but the way these things are like Helmetta or Stasi and any other thing that's been happening in the past year just seems so fake.
Like they're trying to make us buy into this aggressively unreal reality.
Not to say this isn't happening.
There's a lot of horrible things happening in the world.
tim pool
It'd be funny if we're actually already in the pods eating the bugs.
And they're just like playing and toying with us as we're strapped in and we're just like, this is life, we're in base reality and then pans out to base reality and we're already in the pod with tubes in our throats.
adam johnson
We're just extras in a Black Mirror episode, don't know it.
tim pool
Yeah, that was another idea I had a while back of like, what if, here's my argument for why we are all NPCs.
When- the NPCs don't know that they're NPCs, and the people who are playing the game know they're playing the game.
So if you aren't aware that you're an external- you're outside of the system playing the game, then you're the NPC.
And we're sitting here talking, and we're basically three- it's Three Dog, right?
That was the guy from, uh, uh, uh, Fallout?
The radio host?
So when you're playing Fallout, it's a post-apocalyptic wasteland, you turn the radio on, and he's talking.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And that's it.
You're the player, you're playing the game, and we're the background noise to facilitate your playthrough.
shane cashman
Our voice is in a wasteland?
tim pool
Yeah, like, I would have to assume that, like, this is Trump's game.
You know, Trump is, like, some 15-year-old playing the video game of, like, it's called, like, Earth.
Right.
And that's his character, and he's playing, and he's, like, you know, he's nearing the end of the game or whatever, and we're just ancillary characters.
shane cashman
I like to think not, but it does feel like that sometimes, for sure.
tim pool
It doesn't matter if it does or doesn't, I guess.
Your life is your life.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, would it change how you act?
unidentified
No.
hannah claire brimelow
That's always my question.
shane cashman
It wouldn't for me.
I would still act with the moral code I believe in.
Yeah, I do what I want.
Yeah, you go crazy.
adam johnson
Yeah, I do what I want.
hannah claire brimelow
And you wouldn't know if you weren't doing what you want, because apparently we're all in the pods anyway.
No, I'm just kidding.
adam johnson
So, does this guy have charges brought against him, you know?
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
We're serving an arrest warrant.
shane cashman
His last name is Yet Man?
unidentified
What?
hannah claire brimelow
This is what I'm seeing from the New York Times.
tim pool
They haven't caught him yet, man.
hannah claire brimelow
The New York Times says that he had been interviewed by the FBI for his participation in the riot and that he was believed to have fired a large canister of pepper spray at protesters and the police.
So this guy was on no one's side!
shane cashman
It's just you with a haircut!
We all know each other, right?
hannah claire brimelow
From the Ginger J6 subreddit?
tim pool
What if the aliens are actually just, like, game moderators?
And the reason they can defy physics is because their vehicles are outside of the game for the purpose of facilitating the simulation?
shane cashman
We can't see them the way the ants aren't perceiving us.
tim pool
I'm flabbergasted reading this story because it looks like...
It's like when a game writer has his kid write up a quest.
You know, it's a guy who's working for World of Warcraft, has his 11-year-old son write up a quest for him, they'll put in the game and he'll put it in because it's funny and he can.
shane cashman
When I was a professor of creative writing, let's say, and a student came to me with a script like this, I would say, maybe this is like, unless it's a satire, maybe this is all too on the nose, because every name is ridiculous, hell meta, like we're just, we're not reaching that far yet, man.
Like, come on, this is like a Vonnegut, rather, you know?
Maybe they're using Vonnegut stories, I don't know.
You know, I just found out recently, just a little side note on the post-reality stuff, that Vonnegut's brother invented seeding clouds.
Wow.
tim pool
Silver iodide seeding?
shane cashman
That was him.
hannah claire brimelow
What a fun family.
Just really had all kinds of stuff done.
shane cashman
For the simulation people out there.
tim pool
Maybe it's like a Truman show?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
You know, I wonder who Truman would be.
shane cashman
Well, maybe it's Trump, or maybe it's just Schiff's, you know, from all of us.
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe Truman is in Helmetta, and that's how they're keeping him inside, because they're like, hey, there's a manhunt, don't go outside right now.
We've got to change the sets real quick.
Yeah, but I think they've got to charge our little birds, everyone go inside for COVID.
serge du preez
That's what lockdown was, right?
tim pool
It'd be funny if Trump is like, Earth is a Truman show.
We're all ancillary characters that don't matter, but the aliens watch Trump all day, and they love him.
I mean, who doesn't love watching Trump?
He's entertaining.
hannah claire brimelow
And there's several seasons in, so it's getting really off the rails.
unidentified
They don't know what to do.
shane cashman
But there is real-world data to support this theory, in terms of Donald Trump's uncle having the Tesla stuff.
Either Trump is a time traveler or he knows the aliens.
serge du preez
Wait, so is Ye just like a side story?
He was like a fun character arc?
tim pool
Ye is Roy, right?
They introduce a random character to boost the ratings and then he's gone a season later.
shane cashman
True.
I was thinking like all the dimensions kind of merged in the past few years and Ye is another protagonist from another dimension.
Like a crossover episode?
And him and Trump did meet up for a bit, but they're like, we're too crazy to do this together.
serge du preez
It's like Marvel and DC kind of match.
adam johnson
I would say Kanye is closer to the Truman Show though, because Truman did break somewhere towards the end of the show.
It's Kanye.
tim pool
You know what I think is funny?
I was watching clips from the Truman Show, because there's a meme where it's a Truman is arguing with his wife and then she's like, what are you talking to?
But that wouldn't be weird to him because she would have been doing that his whole life.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
It would have been a normal social thing to be like, look at product.
It's a great product.
You'd be like, yep, that's what people do.
hannah claire brimelow
And we're all used to it now because of influencer culture.
tim pool
He'd be doing the same thing.
hannah claire brimelow
Hey, I'm just on my Instagram stories, like putting my kids to bed and I thought I'd tell you about this thing just randomly because I'm definitely getting sponsored to do it.
tim pool
I'm sorry, I gotta do it.
Look, as much as I love the Daily Wire guys and I think they're doing such great work, I just gotta point out one thing I could never do is, because if you've watched their shows, you know exactly what they do, they'll say something like, I gotta tell you, when I learned about how great Vivek Ramaswamy did at that debate, I was so happy to hear it, as happy as I was to try spin drift!
An excellent drink where, and I'm just like, I know it's seamless and it's probably the better way to do an ad read, but I just, I could never do that.
shane cashman
Yeah.
serge du preez
Yeah.
shane cashman
It's, uh, kind of like how I feel on, on X these days when I see something about, for instance, it was, it was on Scott Adams, uh, page and it was about the 3d printed suicide pods with an ad right below it for, let's say, uh, a device for pleasure for women.
And it was like a lady waving goodbye in the pod, smiling, next to this ad saying, like, double the pleasure.
unidentified
It's like, this is just a horrible dystopia.
tim pool
Oh, I gotta give a shout out to Michael Knowles.
I guess he sold out of like four months worth of cigars.
unidentified
Yeah.
serge du preez
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, now I'm like, well now I gotta buy- I don't smoke, but, like, gotta support the parallel economy, man.
We've got Jeremy's soap downstairs?
What is- is that a thing?
hannah claire brimelow
Is there soap now?
shane cashman
Yeah, there was- I saw that recently.
tim pool
It's like soap and deodorant, and I'm like, what- I didn't know that existed.
hannah claire brimelow
I was just waiting for him to come out with, like, dark chocolate, but instead he was like, on to the next product, thank you!
shane cashman
Give it time, he'll have it.
tim pool
You see, like, there's gonna be two realities in 50 years.
There's gonna be the people who live in the pods and eat the bugs.
Outside, you're gonna go to Jeremy's, which is, like, you go inside, it's a superstore warehouse that has every product signed up for your Jeremy's membership, and they got everything.
They got beef, they got pork.
Yeah, it's basically Costco, but it'll be called Jeremy's.
shane cashman
Yeah, we'll get there.
adam johnson
I would do ad reads for fun products.
Like, not real ones, like ejection seats and helicopters.
shane cashman
Oh, what a beautiful image.
hannah claire brimelow
But it is interesting, this idea that, like, people are trying to read meaning or value.
Like, I think people feel so lost in everything that's happening.
They're trying to find clues, like this idea that it's Helmetta.
Like, is this the sign?
Are we looking for something?
And I think that is, again, this craving for direction in life that people just don't have.
tim pool
We're gonna get serious, guys.
We're gonna bring it back to the real works against Crazy Story in New York.
Here we go.
Vigilante gunman nabbed for shooting at homeless would-be robber in New York City subway station.
I want you to analyze that headline real quick.
Vigilante gunman... Read it for me.
shane cashman
Vigilante gunman nabbed for shooting at homeless would-be robber in NYC subway station.
tim pool
And what did you notice in that headline?
shane cashman
Oh, well, the would-be.
tim pool
The would-be?
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
Because, uh, the story could also be homeless man throws woman in front of train.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
Instead, it's a vigilante nabbed.
They arrested the guy.
I don't think it's wise to shoot in a subway.
Don't get me wrong.
But it is crazy that we are getting to this point.
We've warned about it.
A homeless guy was mugging a woman trying to steal her stuff.
This guy shouted out, fired what he called a warning shot, but I'm not a fan of warning shots in subways.
I don't think that makes sense.
And stopped it.
The point is, obviously don't shoot in crowded places like that because you don't know where that bolt's gonna go and you don't know what damage it's gonna cause.
There's a lot of stuff down there.
But more importantly, it's gotten to the point where people have started illegally in New York City carrying guns.
And they're not criminals and they're not bad guys.
They're doing it because they're scared for their safety.
And now we've got the return of subway vigilantism.
adam johnson
You mean they're playing by the same rules as the criminals?
tim pool
That's right.
adam johnson
Uh-huh.
hannah claire brimelow
I can't think of a major city that's like pro-2A that has a serious homeless population.
But I mean the obvious answer is if you had a large homeless population but everyone in the community including the homeless were aware, people carried guns, it would be very different.
shane cashman
Nashville?
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe, I guess.
shane cashman
I don't really know.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't know.
It's hard for me to... I want to say yes, but I don't know.
Well, because it's in Tennessee, I might think yes.
I don't know what Nashville's particular laws are, but it's that sort of thing.
adam johnson
I was just there.
It was pretty clean.
I was there maybe like three months ago.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, there's parts that definitely have a homeless problem, but it's not like an aggressive problem like I've seen in And if you were in, I mean, like all of the cities where you know, you know, crime is really rampant, especially with being perpetrated by homeless people.
Like I think of San Francisco, you can't carry a gun in San Francisco.
What are you talking about?
So in some ways, wouldn't it behoove someone in the New York State Senate to say, hey, maybe we should change the gun laws in New York so people can carry to deter crime?
Instead, they don't like the gun carry.
shane cashman
Don't they have a robot police officer down there now?
Patrolling the subways.
tim pool
Oh, just imagine what that's gonna be like.
You know, a guy comes up to you.
Stop it.
A guy comes up to you, and he's like punching you in the face and trying to grab your purse, and then the robot goes, criminal, you are breaking the law.
Please stop.
shane cashman
Stop.
adam johnson
And we finally found something more useless than gun laws.
tim pool
It's gonna be funny when the robot will just go, whoop, whoop, whoop, while this guy's mercilessly beating a woman.
hannah claire brimelow
Also, someone will just push the robot in front of a train, yes?
shane cashman
Yes, they will.
I'm afraid to give them ideas, but maybe a door opens with an arm to apprehend and then put them inside.
hannah claire brimelow
It shoots tasers and hopefully hits the right person.
shane cashman
Because it's a big robot.
It's like a giant candy corn conveyor belt.
tim pool
It fires a bag and then seals them in.
shane cashman
We should stop giving them ideas, though, for sure, because they will do that.
hannah claire brimelow
It's interesting they won't send police down there, they'll just send the robots.
tim pool
Here's what I love.
I love the combination of future automated dystopia along with the economic collapse dystopia, because it results in homeless people destroying robots in San Francisco.
They're just flipping the machines over and smashing them and stealing food out of them.
shane cashman
Kicking the robot dog.
serge du preez
That's kind of a cool feature.
tim pool
What am I supposed to say about this?
They've got robots driving around San Francisco, San Fran, delivering food, and people just flip them over and then steal the food and leave.
And there's like, what are they gonna do about it?
There's no humans.
adam johnson
This is the natural evolution of battle bots.
serge du preez
It is.
shane cashman
This thing in the subway does look like a battle bot, actually.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
Maybe they need to work on the Transformer suit then, and like a person should be inside
shane cashman
it and all gear up.
Again, stop giving them ideas, please.
adam johnson
I want to go straight to Robocop where they had the one that malfunctioned.
unidentified
We're talking about Robocop and AI and Iron Man suits.
tim pool
I think what we should be really scared about is the Amazon stores where you can walk in
and you don't need, you just grab whatever you want and walk out and it automatically
charges you.
That is the private sector basis for what will become horrifying robo law enforcement.
You think it's bad now?
It's like, oh, who cares?
You walk in, grab your, you know, milk, bread and eggs and walk out.
It's convenient.
What do you think it's going to be like when those things are everywhere you go?
Everywhere.
You jaywalk, you get a ticket in the mail.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
That's crazy.
That's crazy to me.
And also how the way you started this by looking at the title, like the, the way they bend realities, what's terrifying to me, right?
Like they could have written this headline so many different ways, you know, and like that, that does frame people's perception clearly.
Like the, uh, the other day when the guy was killed in, uh, California at the protest, you know, he died in the street and then he was a dead guy, whatever they made.
It's not like he fell or whatever.
tim pool
Elderly man falls and hits head dies.
unidentified
Right.
shane cashman
They frame these realities that are so crazy.
This is that, right?
Then people, you know, a lot of people don't have the time to, we talk about all the time, right?
A lot of people just read the post, but this is the same.
tim pool
Here's a headline for you.
Vigilante gunman who saves woman's life from attempted robbery arrested for firing gun.
hannah claire brimelow
No, it should just be man arrested after defending self in subway from.
tim pool
No, no, he didn't defend himself.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't mind that they identify him as someone who shot a gun.
shane cashman
Preventing, preventing.
hannah claire brimelow
This is Daniel Plinney again.
Except there's a gun this time.
tim pool
I have no problem with the headline saying he opened, he fired a gun in the subway.
You should not do that.
shane cashman
Because that's a problem.
For sure, for sure.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't mind that they identify him as someone who shot a gun.
My problem is nabbed makes it seem like he was the problem.
Yup, he was a perp.
When there is a homeless person robbing someone on the subway.
Like, man intervenes, fires gun during attempted robbery.
You know what I mean?
There are other ways to do it, except the first three words in this are saying, this is who you should be framing as the villain.
adam johnson
It's a negative connotation.
Vigilante, gunman.
It's like the bad people are the people with guns who are defending themselves and defending others.
shane cashman
I just want to say, this is the New York Post and they are famous for one of the best headlines ever, headless body and topless bar.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
shane cashman
Classic.
hannah claire brimelow
We'll bring that back because it's way better than whatever's happening right now.
shane cashman
We're almost there again with this world that they're creating.
And is this the same paper that thought Nikki Haley won last night?
Because it wouldn't make sense.
tim pool
I got a news alert!
shane cashman
Guess who won the debate?
hannah claire brimelow
Nikki Haley!
And I was like, I know she did it.
tim pool
A New York Post alert?
hannah claire brimelow
Not a New York Post, I'll have to look at it.
But I got like a news alert on my phone being like, who won last night's debate?
Nikki Haley, just in case you didn't, no questions, she won.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
And if you didn't, if you watched it, you'd just be like, huh?
It's crazy, they can't control reality anymore.
shane cashman
Two screens, one movie.
adam johnson
Is anyone watching the debates though?
Because I think Trump's up like 50 points or something.
hannah claire brimelow
You know who won last night's debate?
Trump, as per usual.
tim pool
Yeah, he had more viewers.
adam johnson
I'm concerned that he does get the nomination and then he ends up getting arrested.
He can't run.
Maybe they go after the 14th, they say you can't run.
Who are they going to put in last minute?
They've had no air time, no screen time.
It's going to be an absolute mess.
tim pool
Well, Minnesota recently said that, um, they're not keeping Trump off.
hannah claire brimelow
Like, they're not gonna... During the primaries.
tim pool
Right now.
Yeah, yeah.
adam johnson
They just wrote us.
tim pool
So the issue is this.
The states do not have the right to determine eligibility.
Only the federal government does.
Which means any lawsuit to remove Trump from the federal elections could not be done at the state level.
It needs to be done at the federal level, and the federal government needs to make that determination.
And they already did, with the impeachment trial, for which Trump was acquitted.
So, uh, the way it's supposed to work constitutionally is, If a president does something wrong, they are impeached and tried.
If convicted, they are then criminally, potentially, if they want to pursue it, then criminally indicted and tried again.
In this instance, Trump was acquitted.
Wasn't even convicted in the impeachment trial.
He was impeached, but not removed.
So it should be done, but they're going to do it anyway because it's partisan.
hannah claire brimelow
I like the Minnesota ruling because the judges said there's no, there's nothing under state law that says that we can say someone can't participate in a primary and then, you know, you guys have to decide on the federal level if this is, if you have the ability to take him off from the general election.
I think it is really good that our system is set up where there are steps and there's power at the state level and power at the federal level because that's the only way to keep it from being like, well Colorado said he can't be on, there's, the Colorado ruling's not in, but you know, This one state did something so now we all have to obey it.
I think it's good to have the differentiation and I'm glad the Minnesota ruling came out first.
tim pool
I don't think Colorado matters as much, but one state taking his name off and that's going to spike the popular vote count for him, which could lead to crazy turmoil in this country.
shane cashman
Has anyone won before with write-ins?
tim pool
I don't know.
I'm assuming.
To a certain degree, maybe.
hannah claire brimelow
There's a whole campaign right now to do a write-in campaign in the New Hampshire primary because Biden didn't register to be on the ticket because Biden and the DNC are saying, no, New Hampshire's not going first this year.
South Carolina is.
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait.
tim pool
Biden's not on the primary.
hannah claire brimelow
In New Hampshire.
tim pool
Biden's gone.
He's not running.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, well their whole thing is it has to be South Carolina first.
This has been kind of complicated, but it's been a ploy for a little while.
The DNC and the Biden administration want South Carolina to be the first state in the nation to have their primary because they're saying it's better for diversity, whatever else.
Biden got wrecked in New Hampshire when he ran last time, but he won South Carolina by 26 points.
So shortly after he took office, this became the campaign.
And so because the DNC formally decided that South Carolina is going first, this is not true for Republicans.
It's a very weird year.
New Hampshire says, no, we're going first.
South Carolina says, but the DNC said, we're going first.
And so Biden said, well, I'm not going to register to be on the I mean, it is a bizarre, everyone says that the right is fractured, but I think the right is just a more of a mosaic anyways.
There is obvious disagreement, whereas Democrats try to operate like they're a monolith, but they are fracturing in so many different ways.
I mean, the Democrats in New Hampshire are extremely upset about losing, potentially losing first in the nation primary, and their specific thing is you're opening the door for Republicans to spend more money here and convert more voters.
It's very, very weird.
I highly recommend looking into this.
tim pool
It's 11-9 and I was told something was supposed to happen today.
All the weird conspiracy theorists were like, 11-9.
hannah claire brimelow
What happens now?
tim pool
I don't know.
serge du preez
Remember the Q thing?
I don't know.
unidentified
11-9 is when Trump won in 2016.
hannah claire brimelow
Interesting.
Wasn't it?
I don't know.
tim pool
I'm not sure.
shane cashman
Maybe something did happen.
We don't know yet.
We've been sucked into a... Well, we're busy.
hannah claire brimelow
We're podcasting.
We don't even know.
Somebody let us know this breaking news.
shane cashman
Did someone turn on the Large Hadron Collider today?
And we've been sucked into the sphere of strangeness once again?
tim pool
Like we keep- Right, it was- the election was November 8th, and it went into November 9th and concluded with Trump winning on November 9th.
adam johnson
There's always a Q theory coming out.
We were talking about it downstairs, it's- No, this one's not a Q theory, though, this was a numerology thing.
Oh, the world's gonna end in five years, then five years happens, and the cults are- Jesus is coming back, and then the Q is, oh, Trump is still president, he just waits.
tim pool
Well, you know about the red heifer!
adam johnson
I think I watched your podcast on this one, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, there was a Jerusalem Post, there was a forward.com article, and they were just like, the Red Heifer's been born, and that signifies the coming of the Messiah, or something like that.
I don't know anything about it, I just read some article, and that was a month before the Hamas attack.
shane cashman
Yeah, yeah.
But what if they just clone some thing and dye it red?
tim pool
They're trying to.
shane cashman
I know, they're engineering the end times.
tim pool
Yes, but they can't.
So people are actually trying to genetically engineer the red heifer, but it has to have no... It's not.
These people believe they're supposed to bring about the prophecy, not wait for it.
serge du preez
Right, right.
tim pool
Accelerate it.
But no, I reject this.
The idea that prophecy only ever was something to wait for is made up.
These are people who are like, if it says this must be done, it's a to-do list, not a wait-for list.
But the problem is, they can't do it.
Even when they selectively breed the heifers, the cows, It ends up with blemishes, and so they're trying, and it's been, it's been what, like, thousands of years or whatever?
They've not been able to do it?
hannah claire brimelow
But why don't they invent some, like, skincare for it?
tim pool
And see if they can- It's got to be naturally- Because these people genuinely believe that you have to breed it.
They're not trying to convince a carnival.
they're trying to find something that they believe is signifying the coming of the Messiah.
So it was reported in September that they did, and now they have to wait for it to get a little older,
and then they're gonna check it for blemishes.
And this happens a lot, and then they say, ah, there it is, it's got a mark,
it's not a pure red heifer.
But if it's not, it has to be sacrificed.
And the fear is, if someone claims that this is a pure red heifer,
again, not an expert, I read one article, then they will have to sacrifice this
for the start of the third temple or whatever, which will put them at odds with Islam or something.
So, I don't know enough about it.
All I know is a lot of people who, you don't have to believe what they believe to be worried about a bunch of people.
It's fighting and causing problems because they might believe something's happening.
shane cashman
It's like waiting on the next Dalai Lama.
Remember that one kid?
They believe there's a next one and they didn't and China kidnapped him?
hannah claire brimelow
China doesn't know and then they also declare their own Dalai Lama.
So it's impossible to say what happened to the first one.
shane cashman
There's an alternate chosen one.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, it's the one that China thinks is right.
You can't question it.
shane cashman
It's crazy.
adam johnson
I just want to know what the red heifer tastes like.
Is that a good steak?
I don't know.
tim pool
I think they just sacrificed and bladed it out.
shane cashman
According to the kosher laws, I'm pretty sure as well.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you feel like this is good representation for Gingers that we're trying to breed more red happers?
shane cashman
He told me earlier it's the name of his new podcast.
adam johnson
There's enough of us.
tim pool
Alright, we've been having too much fun.
Let's get really dark with it.
This is a really, really big story from earlier today.
Israel Demands Action After Journalists Reportedly Joined Hamas Massacre.
AP, CNN, Reuters, and the New York Times.
They had reporters... This is an investigative... I'm sorry, this is the... Here we go.
Honest Reporting.
It's an NGO that pushes back on articles that it says are posting fake news about Israel.
And they have some photos.
Taken by Hassan Eslaya.
At the conflict.
And there are serious questions any editor should have asked about these photos.
Excuse me, good sir reporter that we are paying.
How did you get this photo?
Hamas is allowing you to film their operations?
How did you know to film in these locations?
Were you with Hamas?
What did they tell you?
Now there's serious, there's real questions.
Would we rather have the photos or not?
My concern is, if these quote-unquote reporters are embedded with Hamas, there's a photo, they actually have a photo of one of the guys with one of the Hamas leaders.
They look like friends.
And so it would seem the images and photos that came out were intentionally released by Hamas to control the narrative.
And if these news organizations paid these individuals, they were directly funding Hamas.
shane cashman
I'm not surprised because these are the same corporate corporate press people who are funding BLM and basically embedded with them and helping burn down cities.
hannah claire brimelow
And they have young progressives on staff who would think this is justified.
I mean, we saw this in the US.
There's no reason to think it's not happening in the newsrooms everywhere.
shane cashman
When I saw this story today, I thought of, I forget his full name, but I think the last name was Sullivan.
And he was the guy at J6 who was selling his footage from inside the Capitol.
And it was on CNN.
Yeah, he made a bunch of money.
And then like the day after, something like that.
And then he's on video waving the knife, like doing, like instigating literal bad stuff, you know?
So I see, you know, this is just the next step for these people.
This is what they do.
But I would like to know who they are, like, to what degree did they partake in this?
I do want to see the photos and then I want to be able to judge for myself.
But like, are they freelancers?
Did they know the publication beforehand?
tim pool
Do we know that?
Are they are they retainer freelancers right did the New York Times a PCNN as?
Organizations know the attack was gonna happen. I gotta be honest. I think it's entirely possible totally they're
claiming They don't they're saying we had no ideas gonna happen.
Well. They have to say that but look What does it mean for an organization to say we didn't know?
Does that mean an editor didn't know?
It's entirely possible one of these guys contacted their, you know, buyer or whatever and said, look, there's gonna be a major military action on the 7th.
I can get you the photos.
You know, here's how much I want.
Negotiated the question that needs to be asked the deeper investigation is how quickly were these photos released?
Because if they were released instantly that means a pre-existing relationship Was in play and these guys are likely on some kind of retainer or payroll Or at the very least sent an email saying check out these photos.
Do you want to buy them?
And they immediately just said yes without question.
Here's a photo Palestinian Palestinian militants from Gaza Strip run the gate of kibbutz kafar Aza on Saturday Run by the gate.
So is this a photo of them appearing to try and get in?
Could this reporter...
Have warned someone they were about to go and kill a bunch of civilians?
Is it the duty of the reporter to do so?
I mean, these are serious moral questions.
shane cashman
Yes.
tim pool
And unless he's ideologically aligned with Hamas.
In which case, he is a propaganda mouthpiece of Hamas that is being paid by the American corporate press.
shane cashman
It's one thing to embed yourself with a thing and report on it.
But it's another thing to... I think you have... Ethically, you must say something if you know that's going to happen.
It doesn't matter how embedded you are.
That's ridiculous.
That picture of him kissing, the kissing picture, is that from October 6th?
When is that picture even from?
It matters.
It could be from years ago.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, it only matters because Hamas has spent a lot of time trying to embed themselves in the good graces of progressives in America.
I mean, what was the line from, I think it was a 2019 interview where he was saying, You know, equating basically the Hamas interactions to BLM and George Floyd, right?
And he used those words because he knows that there is an emotional reaction on the American left.
This is a longstanding goal of Hamas, in my observational understanding of it, that they want the American left journalism class to be sympathetic to them.
shane cashman
Totally.
hannah claire brimelow
And so it wouldn't be surprising to me if a journalist has a positive relationship with both a Western outlet and Hamas, and Hamas was like, yeah, come here, let's do it.
And I don't know if that journalist is objective enough to understand what they are consenting to or what they're enabling with their actions.
shane cashman
What media outlet was it that said they were bombed by Israel years ago, but it turns out they were in the headquarters of Hamas at that time?
Do you remember that story?
tim pool
There was a media center that it was claimed, just where reporters are, and then it came out that Hamas used a sublevel for weapons and stuff.
Because that's what they do!
shane cashman
Yeah, and we all do it.
Like, this country's got bad press working with our bad agents all the time.
tim pool
I do think it's funny because, like, the US has blown up and killed a bunch of people at weddings in Pakistan and things like that.
You know what I mean?
Like, come on.
So, you know, I just can't stand the hypocrisy.
More importantly, I mean, look, these corporate news organizations, they're evil.
They are big, faceless corporations.
The only thing that Editor was thinking was, I can't get in trouble, but we get these photos out, it's big, how much do you want?
They didn't even stop to say, how did you get these photos?
Because look, man, if it turns out that you're working with these guys, we can't give you any money for this.
It's even worse than if he says, okay, you can take them for free.
Because that means you are putting out the propaganda they want released.
And I think, You know, a lot of people say, why would they want that release showing the horrible things they're doing?
They filmed themselves doing horrible things.
They published this footage.
They wanted to destroy the Abraham Accords and shift the negotiating power back to Palestine by saying, hey, look, we're crazy.
And Biden gave them $100 million.
shane cashman
Yeah, it's crazy.
I would advise, recommend, anyone who cares about what's going on behind the scenes at corporate media places to watch the best movie, Network.
tim pool
And it goes through... I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore.
shane cashman
That's it, you know, and how they exploit violence, madness, you know, and what they do for the clicks, for the views.
It's one of my favorite movies, one of the best written movies with the best dialogue ever.
But I think that movie, even though I came out in probably the seventies or eighties, it is just as relevant today as it was then.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I think it's unsurprising that this is happening.
I am curious what the response would be from AP or Reuters, whoever put out the photos, because ultimately they control the news.
So even if they put out a statement, they can bury it as fast as anything else.
tim pool
They did.
CNN fired the guy.
shane cashman
Did they say what capacity he worked with them?
tim pool
Well, let's let's read this from the messenger.
They say CNN and other organizations, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And let's see.
In a statement, Poseidon X, the Israeli Prime Minister, said this, okay, come on, come on.
CNN told Israeli outlet Ynet that it had severed ties with Islaya in the wake of the honest reporting investigation
saying, We are aware of the article and photo concerning Hassan Islaya,
a freelance photojournalist who has worked with a number of international and Israeli outlets.
CNN wrote in a statement, Oh, yeah. While we have not at this time found a reason to
doubt the journalistic accuracy of the work he's done for us, we have decided to suspend all ties with
him, the network added.
That kind of sounds like they're saying, holy crap, we're in trouble.
Cut ties with him and dismiss it.
Because if it really was a nothing, they would say, look, it's a freelancer we've worked with in the past.
We have no comment.
adam johnson
That's what I was thinking, is that he's, this guy is probably not like a direct employee of CNN.
It's probably not that.
So he's a freelancer.
Are the news companies just the middle man?
And then maybe someone's calling and saying, hey, we got someone over there, right?
tim pool
It doesn't matter.
Because you can't legally give material support to a terrorist organization.
So the questions that are rising with this is, look, this is not an instance where photos emerged of someone in the music festival.
Who had been there and said, look, I was here in Israel.
I was filming.
This is a guy who's Palestinian in Gaza who has photos from inside Israel, meaning he breached the barriers with that.
Like he's with the guy.
The bigger question is.
Did these media organizations pay Hamas for the propaganda material Hamas wanted released?
shane cashman
Yeah, I think that's a big problem.
I think this ethically is just a giant nightmare, you know?
And it reminds me of this weird story about this journalist from back in the day, he was in the new journalism movement, wrote a lot of great stories.
And then in his old years, he wrote a story about a guy with a motel who was a voyeur looking at the people who were in his hotel rooms.
And then he embedded himself with that person.
And like, me reading that, I'm like, ethically, you should be warning everybody about this.
But instead, he's like cozying up to this guy, looking through the peepholes.
That's insane.
tim pool
The AP claims the first pictures they received show they were taken more than an hour after the attacks began.
No AP staff were at the border at the time of the attacks, nor did any AP staffer cross the border at that time.
That does not mean this guy was not there.
And people are posting a video showing one of these reporters holding a grenade or something like this.
That's what's being reported on X.
And, uh, yo, Israel is saying these journalists are going to be treated as terrorists.
That's crazy.
As Lionel says, he fears for his life.
Those who stood, quote, as idle bystanders while children were slaughtered are no different than terrorists and should be treated as such.
That's crazy, man.
See, this is where it gets interesting.
I don't, like...
If this guy's a legitimate journalist and he's not with Hamas, do we want these photos?
We want to see what they're doing.
shane cashman
Yes, unfortunately, but yes.
tim pool
But the question is, is he actually aligned with them and are news organizations paying a guy and providing material support to the propaganda wing of Hamas?
shane cashman
That's the problem.
tim pool
I gotta be honest, I don't think anyone operates in Gaza without the approval of Hamas.
I don't think this guy could be a journalist without them.
Like, a Palestinian journalist in Gaza?
They know who he is.
They have to.
He's selling photos of the AP being played internationally.
There's no circumstance in my mind where Hamas is like, nah, you're fine.
Do whatever you want.
No, they probably said, here's what we expect from you.
Here's what you have to do.
He says, you got it.
adam johnson
Well, that's what I'm saying.
I don't think that he's not CNN's guy, right?
This guy does work for someone.
Someone is paying his bills to be there, live there and exist there.
And that's the question I want to have answered.
Is this guy?
Part of Hamas?
Is he part of intelligence agency?
Like, how do you get training to hang out with Hamas and not get shot, right?
You have to be buddy-buddy.
This is the questions that I have.
tim pool
A picture of him getting kissed.
I mean, come on.
Yeah.
Right there.
shane cashman
That's crazy.
tim pool
And he's smiling and he's taking the selfie.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So it's not like they staged the photo.
He was like, hey, I'm gonna get a picture with me and this guy who's kissing me.
That's crazy.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, but if he's Palestinian, I would be curious to hear what his personal view on Hamas is anyways, right?
I mean, people in Palestine have a long and complicated relationship with Hamas because Hamas used to provide social services.
I mean, there was Hamas pre what we know it as today.
It's not that I'm justifying Hamas' existence, but as a Palestinian journalist, maybe you view it differently.
I don't know.
shane cashman
Or maybe if he truly was embedded and he truly is an investigative journalist, that's the role he was playing.
You know, or maybe that's the story he's going to tell you.
Either way, it's ridiculous.
tim pool
But if he is Palestinian, then he's subject to Hamas's whims.
shane cashman
Yeah, oh yeah, I mean, this is propaganda.
For them.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and also, if he's just like, I'm a nice journalist and I want to do a good job, and Hamas, maybe I take your picture, and they know that he's ultimately going to give the photos to CNN or to any kind of Western outlet, There's a chance that they're like, yes, of course, we'll treat you really nicely.
Come on in.
Because again, they ultimately, you know, there's this question of material support.
So Hamas may not be paying him, but they do want him to circulate images of them.
Hamas has not been quiet with the fact that they want public attention.
tim pool
Imagine what would have happened if Hamas didn't film any of what happened on October 7th.
shane cashman
Right.
tim pool
There would be limited video from security cameras and dash cams and some people film stuff
But a lot of the most gruesome stuff we've seen they filmed themselves
Like killing civilians in cars and stuff like that, right?
They wanted people to see what they were doing. Yeah for sure
shane cashman
That's messed up man, which is why they're piling around with the press as well or
tim pool
Or is the press?
Look man, when you go to these protests in the far left, these quote-unquote journalists, they're wearing press badges, they're activists, they're Antifa.
shane cashman
Absolutely.
hannah claire brimelow
But you also have to look at like TikTok, right?
Like TikTok has tons of video footage that's coming out on the ground in Palestine right now of people in Palestine saying, You know, Israel is making us walk to the southern part of the state or, you know, there is a counter effort.
And so Hamas saying, and this is just off the cuff my opinion about it, but like Hamas saying, yes, we are willing to show what we're doing kind of tells the citizens, yes, you should also be recording and trying to distribute what's happening here as much as possible.
And it makes the narrative more complicated, which is ultimately what Hamas really wants.
shane cashman
And I just also want to stress that every government is doing this at the same time, to varying degrees, right?
But like Gal Gadot is about to show some film for the IDF.
A fight broke out, you saw that?
No.
tim pool
Yeah, she had a screening and a fight broke out outside.
shane cashman
Was she dressed up as Wonder Woman or?
tim pool
She wasn't at the fight, but a fight broke out outside.
shane cashman
That's crazy.
adam johnson
It was the 1984 outfit, not as good.
tim pool
Yeah, not as good, not as good.
shane cashman
But everyone's got propagandists on their payroll, you know?
And we should all be very aware of that, no matter if it's this government in America, these guys, Hamas, the IDF, they all got it.
And just, I would be suspect.
tim pool
Would we call it propaganda if it was something everyone agreed with?
adam johnson
Like, let's say that we'd call it successful propaganda.
tim pool
Well look, let's say that everyone in this country absolutely agrees with the right to wear shoes.
And then someone makes a documentary explaining why it's important to wear shoes.
We wouldn't call it propaganda, we'd call it a documentary.
hannah claire brimelow
Right.
tim pool
It's propaganda when you have competing ideological interests fighting with each other and as ideologies fracture in the United States, everything turns into propaganda.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So we make infringed.
My view of it is, it is a...
It's a journey of, you know, Lauren goes through meeting people and exploring the ideas of gun control and then factually reporting on the importance of keeping and bearing arms, what the Founding Fathers meant.
And we think we are correct in what we're saying and how we're saying it.
And then people who hate guns are going to say it's propaganda.
unidentified
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
In some respects though, to your shoe example, propaganda would include, it wouldn't just be like, oh, shoes are good, they protect your feet.
It'd be like, and they make you stronger and better and they ultimately support every single aspect of our economy.
I mean, propaganda has to do with an overwhelming lobbying for something.
tim pool
I disagree.
Infringed ends with Lauren saying, buy a gun while you still can, or something to that effect.
But, it's, it's, if you made a documentary and you said, the Founding Fathers intended people to keep and bear arms because, in order to form a militia to fight a foreign or domestic threat, the populace would need to be armed and prepared to use weapons.
The left will say, that's a lie!
That's not true, that's propaganda!
The Founding Fathers expected regulated militias that they were in control of to be doing this!
This is a right-wing propaganda lie!
That's my point.
We call our stuff news and information, we call the counterpoints and what we would view as lies as propaganda, and then the other people do the same thing.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't think everyone calls everything they disagree with.
Like, if you watch Forks Over Knives, right?
They just, like, gave birth to a huge wave of veganism, at least in my generation.
I wouldn't call it propaganda, it's just alternative information, right?
tim pool
So if your argument is that we are honest people and they're not, then okay.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't really have an argument other than saying propaganda tends to be over-celebratory of the thing that it's trying to push.
tim pool
Or it can just omit information.
hannah claire brimelow
Sure, but you know, presenting different points of view doesn't inherently have to be propaganda.
tim pool
If an activist organization that was pro-abortion Made a bunch of, uh, made a documentary that excluded all of the arguments of the pro-life side.
We'd call that propaganda.
hannah claire brimelow
Typically you would because it's not balanced.
I mean that would also be true of like any written thing where it's just like here's our side over and over again.
tim pool
And that's my point.
So when we make infringed, is it balanced?
We're advocating for buying guns.
I think it is important that everyone does train and exercise their rights to keep their arms.
The founding fathers did intend these things for these reasons.
People did own warships back in the day.
Private companies owned nuclear weapons.
These are all true today.
And the left would say it's propaganda.
It's pro-gun propaganda.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So what my point is, we have these disparate ideologies popping up and no unified ideology.
Everything is turning into...
You know, like, ideological attacks on everybody else.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I mean, ultimately, it changes why people are motivated to create anything, right?
If you think... I harken back to my example of always being This American Life, when This American Life, you know, way back in the day, when it would come out, they'd do these thematic episodes, and you'd get kind of weird, unusual stories.
But ultimately, if you have a political objective, or you have a specific point you're trying to make, it changes the type of content you're creating.
shane cashman
It's kind of like how Serial, speaking of NPR, you know, that it turned when they first aired it, it was this huge phenomenon, this narrative about that guy who they thought was wrongfully accused.
And in retrospect, it kind of sounds like it was just propaganda to make him sound more innocent, because now it sounds like the story isn't what they said it was.
And that's because of what they left out, you know, the omissions to all the larger parts of that narrative.
tim pool
We're gonna go to Super Chats, so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, head over to TimCast.com, click join us, so you can watch the uncensored members-only show coming up at 10 p.m.
It's gonna be awesome and fun and not so family-friendly, but also check out the Infringed documentary by Lauren Southern, just dropped this week.
It's a great film, and we're gonna be pushing it pretty heavily throughout the next couple weeks for sure.
And we'll read some Super Chats.
hannah claire brimelow
Yo.
unidentified
Yo.
tim pool
Congratulations.
Alpha Turkey says, who are they more afraid of, Trump or Vivek?
shane cashman
Trump.
tim pool
Trump right now.
Vivek, though.
They're probably right now saying like, okay, Trump's our immediate threat.
I'm like, you got to keep an eye on this guy because he's doing the same thing Trump's doing.
adam johnson
That's what I said.
Like, if you think that any other candidate after Trump's going to be treated any differently than Trump, you haven't been paying attention.
These are the tactics they're going to use forever and ever from here on out.
tim pool
Fatty Tang says, FCC voting on Biden's internet plan next week.
It gives the administrative state effective control of all internet services and infrastructure.
Oh boy.
unidentified
I'm excited for that.
hannah claire brimelow
What a time to be alive.
shane cashman
Just gives me a headache.
tim pool
Okay, okay.
Bitnertoons says, Howdy!
Viewer since 2020.
Your work inspired me to enter the culture arena and launch my own cartoon profile on Axe.
Please shout out at Bitnertoons.
shane cashman
Nice.
tim pool
Shout out!
Waffle Sensei says, look at that, member for 30 months.
Vivek will be president in 2028.
I can see that.
hannah claire brimelow
Be cool.
I think we need more talented people.
I like seeing, you know, Vivek thrive.
I like seeing talent right at the top.
adam johnson
Hey, Waffle.
He's in one of my group chats.
unidentified
Oh, right on.
adam johnson
He's a nice guy.
shane cashman
That's awesome.
adam johnson
Yeah.
tim pool
Elf Tree Hug says, we need to vote for people that love this country and want to make it work.
When things become too polarized, they stop respecting the systems in place and the systems break down, i.e.
branches of government, the constitution.
You know it.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Matt Hudson says, I tried to be first, but I failed.
My name is Matt Hudson, and I'm a world-class non-QM loan processor available to grow your company.
Hire me.
I'm not a communist.
Also, I love Mastiffs.
I don't know what a loan processor does.
adam johnson
They process loans.
tim pool
I would assume that.
shane cashman
Mastiffs are cool.
tim pool
That doesn't necessarily mean it's the only thing they do, and we don't need loans.
We have, uh, we have, we have no need.
serge du preez
Glad you're not a communist, though.
tim pool
Yeah, that's good.
That's a good point.
serge du preez
One less communist.
shane cashman
One less communist.
tim pool
Michael Angelli says brace bands struck down along with frame and receiver rule, but government can still appeal and fight it, keep spreading the message, shall not be infringed.
adam johnson
Also, my understanding is, too, is the rule still in effect, pending the appeal, so... Yes, so they basically extended... I just finished listening to a podcast this morning.
They extended the, um, you don't have to be a part of these two groups that, how we're representing people, you know, it's everyone.
Everyone, everywhere.
It used to be two lawsuits were brought, and if you were a member of these two companies, or you were in their services, you were shielded under the original ruling.
You went back and forth.
Now they extended it to everyone.
But my understanding is you, like, we're still waiting for a final ruling, but.
serge du preez
Right, right, right.
adam johnson
In the meantime.
tim pool
But yeah.
Okay, Chief Apof says, today I subscribed to Ian's channel and I got a TimCast membership.
Tim, we've had plenty of one-way arguments over the years since Occupy, but I've always truly appreciated what you do.
I'm happy to get a membership.
Thank you very much.
Good sir.
Y'all should become members and hang out in the Discord because they're also doing an infringed viewing party.
shane cashman
Oh, that's awesome.
tim pool
Super cool.
Yeah, hang out with your friends and watch a movie and eat popcorn just as the way it was supposed to be.
hannah claire brimelow
Discord's incredible, they do so much stuff.
shane cashman
Yeah, they're incredible.
tim pool
Kyle Martin says, just watched Infringed.
Great documentary and encourage anyone, fans of the Second Amendment or not, to watch it.
I think it's the kind of thing you want your family members who are not 2A to watch with you.
And you can tell I'm right, it's like it's a, you know, it talks about gun control stuff and let's watch it and then, you know, there you go.
Talks about democide, when all these governments, fascists, Nazis, etc., were communists, were killing their own people.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
adam johnson
I'm gonna send a copy to David Hogg.
tim pool
He should watch it.
shane cashman
Yes.
tim pool
He should watch it.
Sparkart says, off-topic, how do you think Zelensky is going to explain to the Azov battalion that Israel is now getting their funds and now they're asking for loans they will need to pay back with interest?
adam johnson
Oof.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
serge du preez
Man, the simulation, it's just the writing is wild sometimes.
shane cashman
Yeah, that one's pretty good.
serge du preez
That's really good, man.
tim pool
Jardit says, unbeatable ticket.
Hear me out.
Patrick bet David Tucker Carlson.
I can dream.
Unfortunately, Patrick was not born in the United States.
shane cashman
I don't think so.
tim pool
Yeah, he cannot be president.
shane cashman
Change that.
hannah claire brimelow
I think too many media personalities on one ticket might not work for the voters.
Like voters do want to see someone they feel more related to.
shane cashman
Right, right.
adam johnson
Someone they've already voted for once and they did a good job.
They have a history of being in government and at least doing some positive things.
tim pool
Yeah.
Man Hickson says, Ronnie McDaniel maiden name is Romney.
Courtesy of PBD co-host.
Vivek had Trump energy.
You should create an anti-matrix page highlighting all the media lies to show people to wake them up.
Is that true about Ronnie McDaniel's name?
It was Ronna Romney?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Or is that just a joke where they're making fun of her?
shane cashman
That name sounds fake.
hannah claire brimelow
I've seen this before though.
tim pool
That sounds like a simulation name.
shane cashman
That's a simulation name for sure.
tim pool
Ah, Vivek definitely had Trump energy.
adam johnson
That's her stage name.
shane cashman
Yeah.
Yeah, when he called out the moderator, his opening statement, I was saying, is my new favorite poem.
It was so beautiful.
tim pool
I see this one, this message from Steve.
He says, Marvel is turning into representation force.
hannah claire brimelow
Sorry, is her middle name Romney?
Ronna Romney McDaniel?
tim pool
That would be her maiden name then.
shane cashman
Her maiden name is Romney.
Ronna Romney.
tim pool
Really?
unidentified
Wow.
shane cashman
There you go.
tim pool
Well, there you go.
So, uh, the, the, uh, the Marvels came out today.
It's the latest film.
It's the shortest Marvel film they've put out yet.
It stars three super strong tough ladies fighting an evil super strong tough lady.
And, uh, it's the first Marvel movie I have not gone to see and will not go see because it looks bad.
And you know, I know it's bad.
The trailer opens with footage from Endgame.
Like, the first third of the trailer is Marvel's Endgame, which was 2019.
unidentified
They're just recycling.
tim pool
They're doing it because they know that nobody likes Brie Larson, and they've invested too much, they've got a contract with her, they've gotta finish the movie because it's part of the universe, so they're doing something with it.
It went from Brie Larson was supposed to be the new Iron Man to her second movie has three main characters.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
They're like, we need someone else.
She's not, people don't like her.
So they make a trailer for her movie, which I don't even see trailers, which is crazy.
Normally like there's tons of trailers coming up before the movie comes out.
I saw the one and it's Robert Downey Jr.
and Chris Evans.
No joke.
And I was like, what?
What is this?
adam johnson
Weren't there multiple reshoots of this too?
tim pool
I don't know.
Probably.
adam johnson
Look, they were nice to us.
They made it the shortest one ever.
tim pool
And they probably did it like, we've got to make it, but let's just get it done.
And apparently the critics are bombing it.
Like the official critics, not the, you know, how sad, how sad.
But you know what, man?
Like the MCU was a great thing.
They made, what was it like?
It was like 13 films that were all connected to each other.
And then after that, it was a spattering of garbled nonsense.
So.
shane cashman
Just like our simulation is falling apart.
It kind of parallels the MCU world.
hannah claire brimelow
It can only keep seasons going for so long.
shane cashman
It's probably the same writers.
hannah claire brimelow
Rana Romney-McDaniel is Mitt Romney's niece.
I just gotta get married.
adam johnson
Marvel ended at Endgame and Star Wars ended at Episode 6.
hannah claire brimelow
It's not suspicious at all.
shane cashman
Did she get married or did she just change her name, like legally?
hannah claire brimelow
She got married.
shane cashman
So she could distance herself from that but still be in charge of the Uniparty.
tim pool
Alright, the Emperor's Champion says Tucker Carlson would be a very prudent choice for a VP.
He'd be able to campaign for Trump, completely negating the left's attempt to jam up Trump and stop him from campaigning.
That's true!
This is the thing, you know, people are saying Trump's gonna be in jail.
How will he campaign, his VP?
And if it is someone like, oh man, that's why Vivek could be VP.
Because Trump could look at him and be like, okay, I'm busy, Vivek, run the show.
And if Vivek does rallies, people are going to be cheering like crazy.
adam johnson
You get minutes and phone calls from prison though, so 15 minutes a day he could make a rap album.
tim pool
But here's the thing, Trump's funny.
I don't think Vivek's a funny guy.
He's a serious guy.
adam johnson
He's a very serious guy.
shane cashman
He has a hard time with genuine humor.
The TikTok dances are a bit much in my opinion.
unidentified
Oh, I don't watch that.
hannah claire brimelow
You don't like his Eminem rap?
shane cashman
The Eminem rap also, as a rap fan, I don't really like Eminem, but he's got a soft attitude.
tim pool
But it's good that he's not that guy.
shane cashman
Yes.
tim pool
He's the businessman, and Trump is the wild personality.
shane cashman
Right, right.
But he still has energy.
tim pool
Of course, of course.
shane cashman
He's the only person on that stage with any energy.
tim pool
Yeah.
Any honesty?
shane cashman
Yeah.
adam johnson
Did he have his... I know he was in charge of COVID, he was on a board for something.
Didn't he have his Wikipedia page scrubbed?
serge du preez
I don't know.
tim pool
Everybody has.
hannah claire brimelow
That's what I've heard too.
tim pool
But everybody has, it's not surprising to me.
It's like one big political competition on Wikipedia.
serge du preez
Yeah, all I've ever seen is people just, like, they just say George Soros, and then it's supposed to mean something.
tim pool
They just say that, so... It's just like, there's so many people who, uh, they said the same thing of Trump.
When Trump was running, they said that he was secretly colluding with Hillary Clinton because he's friends with her.
serge du preez
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
And they post photos, and I'm like, dude, like... Yeah.
Vivek is spreading a message, and if the argument is he's a plant who's secretly trying to take over, oh no, he's spreading the message we like?
Like, is the argument that he's willing, that the deep state is sacrificing their position to promote American-first politics and policies and anti-war, and then gain control?
I just...
Look, man, if people are spreading your message for you, just say, oh, no, stop, don't, I guess, like, let them do their thing.
shane cashman
He's, like, moving the Overton window a bit.
tim pool
Exactly.
shane cashman
Yeah, with what he's saying.
tim pool
And he's not gonna be, he's not gonna win.
Like, he may be VP.
shane cashman
Yeah.
adam johnson
Could be fun.
tim pool
All right.
D99 says, I wish Infringed mentioned that most of these ghost guns in Crimes are just a gun that had its numbers ground off.
I think it is one in five real ghost guns.
Wow, interesting.
Crazy.
By the fireside says I'd love the vague for Trump's VP if Biden is nominee, only to see him ratio Kamala in the debates.
adam johnson
Oh, God.
That would be amazing.
serge du preez
Yeah, it would be good.
shane cashman
We saw Tulsi body her in the debate years ago, and now we can see the vague do it.
That would be brilliant.
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like Kamala would somehow try to get out of being in the debate.
shane cashman
She might quit.
She's like, you know what?
hannah claire brimelow
I don't want to be... She's like, I've really got to go back to California now.
shane cashman
But didn't today she said she had the vocabulary and the pronunciation for the press?
Did you see that clip?
hannah claire brimelow
No, I didn't.
shane cashman
She said that.
So maybe she's feeling confident now.
She read a book.
serge du preez
I hope she is.
I would love to see her get bodied.
shane cashman
Oh, it'd be great.
serge du preez
It'd be great.
shane cashman
He would steamroller.
tim pool
Eric Sharp says, DeShrinktis played four years of baseball for Yale.
Someone more search savvy than I should be able to find rosters and game programs.
These should show his height and weight before presidential aspirations.
Well, let's get it!
There's photos of him walking on the beach barefoot and he has the same height difference with his wife.
Then there's a photo of her wearing high heels and he has the same height difference with his wife.
hannah claire brimelow
And then she was in sneakers the other day and they had the same height difference.
Like, something is weird.
tim pool
She was wearing sneakers in the debate?
hannah claire brimelow
No, it was like a picture of her and the Iowa governor and like their families together.
tim pool
He was trying to walk down a step and he tripped.
Do you see the video?
And people are pointing out that the reason why his heel clipped the step is because... His use of the shoes?
Well, no, no, no.
The block object at the back of your foot, you don't feel the same way when you're walking.
And so he thought he had cleared, and then the... He moved his foot in a way that his foot would have cleared the step, but the extended heel did not.
adam johnson
That's the argument I make.
I want a politician who can climb stairs.
Why is it so hard to climb?
shane cashman
That is a little too much to ask for.
hannah claire brimelow
Come on, you better lower your standards right down to Ron DeSantis' height.
shane cashman
Not even Newsom could get downstairs, which is why he's going to be candidate.
Didn't he fall down the stairs at the airplane on the way the other day?
unidentified
Newsom did?
hannah claire brimelow
He probably did it like it's not it's all staged to make Biden look less incompetent.
shane cashman
Yes.
hannah claire brimelow
That way he can lock down that endorsement.
shane cashman
You'd be a better writer for the simulation.
adam johnson
If we're calling little Chinese children stairs, then yes, he definitely tripped over one.
tim pool
Fun fact, Rana McDaniel is Mitt Romney's niece.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, see, I told you guys.
Not sketchy at all.
adam johnson
That's so gross.
unidentified
Does she also like hot dogs without buns?
tim pool
Co-host Inspiration says, Tim, I have to know, does your source in the McDaniel story own a certain political t-shirt company?
No comment.
We will not reveal any information pertaining to our source.
Will not confirm or deny.
adam johnson
You did see the Romney's thing when he was talking about hot dogs?
No.
He's like, I love hot dogs.
unidentified
He's walking down a hallway and then he's like, I like hot dogs in a bun.
adam johnson
I even like hot dogs without a bun.
tim pool
Hot dogs are pretty good.
I'm from Chicago.
It was crazy to me when I first left Chicago and you couldn't get hot dogs anywhere.
I mean, for real.
You go to Chicago, there are hot dog stands everywhere.
Not stands, like New York has carts.
Chicago has brick and mortar hot dog places all over the place.
Maxwell Street, very famous.
But you'll like walk down the street and it's, when I was a kid and me and my friends
were playing in our garage band, we would walk four blocks to the hot dog shop
and you'd walk inside and it's hot dogs and burgers and Italian beef.
And the signs are all for hot dogs.
Like, Chicago's all about hot dogs.
And then I moved, I bounced around and visited a bunch of places
and it's just like, there's nothing.
And I was like, wow.
It was a crazy moment for me when I was in, where was I?
I think I was in LA.
No, no, I was in New York and I went to get a sub.
They're called heroes in New York, not subs.
And when I was asked what I wanted on it, I said I want to do roast beef, cheddar, and giardiniera.
And he went, and what?
And I was like, roast beef cheddar and giardiniera.
And he goes, what?
Giardiniera.
He's like, hey, we don't have that.
And I was like, what?
And then I found out it was a Chicago thing.
shane cashman
Yeah, we don't have that in New York.
tim pool
Don't have that in New York, not in LA.
But because of pot bellies, you get them called, they're called hot peppers.
And so I figured out how to get them.
And so here at the castle, we just ordered like 30 of them.
Cause I'm like, if you're from Chicago, you're wondering what's going on.
shane cashman
That's hilarious.
tim pool
Why can't I get good food out here?
Yo, the best thing ever is a giardiniera pizza.
unidentified
Hm.
adam johnson
Yeah.
shane cashman
I'll try it.
tim pool
People should look up what giardiniera is.
Good luck spelling it.
I don't even know how to spell it.
G-I-A-D-I-E-N-R-A.
Giardiniera?
No, I can't spell it.
Good luck.
Yeah, but it's awesome.
It's great.
It's like celery, carrots, cauliflower, and jalapenos in oil.
shane cashman
That sounds amazing.
adam johnson
Yeah.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Oh, let's see.
Nick says, I am a member.
I don't have the time to watch anymore.
I will never not give y'all 10 bucks a month.
Thank you for what you do.
Love you guys.
Really do appreciate it.
We definitely do advocacy and stuff.
We're like a weird mix of mission-driven media and stuff.
It's a fair point.
A lot of people who are members are doing it just because they like what we continue to do.
And I embrace it.
I'm like, look, man, if you like Second Amendment rights, We, I just set a $100,000 marketing budget on social media.
Like set, as in like I literally clicked go and the money is currently and actively being spent.
The ads are running and these ads are for advocacy on gun rights.
But it's like, it's for the documentary.
We want people to sign up.
We want to watch the documentary.
If at the very least, all we get out of it is we have made a pro gun rights documentary ubiquitous through, you know, this marketing campaign.
There you go.
If we can get more members, if we can make more money, I would love to spend a million dollars marketing gun rights documentary.
Just like with Daily Wire and What Is A Woman, right?
We're going to make documentaries that support the ideas we believe in, and that's why you should become a member at TimCast.com.
Appreciate it.
Alright, MitchellCloud9 says, Coming from Canada, I watched Infringed last night and today I signed up for my non-restricted and restricted firearms training and permit.
I regret not getting involved before the sweeping bans.
Right on, man.
unidentified
Right on.
tim pool
Alright, we'll grab some more.
Neglectful Sausage says, Tim, that's part of it.
Except millennials also were the first generation to not be pushed to work at 14 to 15 years old.
And now people are saying 21 are still kids.
It's infantilization by our culture itself.
But you do it too, re-consent law.
What?
What does that mean?
We can't hear anything you're saying, bro.
serge du preez
Oh, sorry.
Not everyone, because I was referring, uh, soccer games when I was, what, 14?
unidentified
15?
serge du preez
So, like, not- and I knew other kids that were doing the same thing, so not every millennial was like that.
I don't- don't totally agree with that.
adam johnson
No, we got plenty of 14-year-olds bagging groceries out of grocery stores.
serge du preez
Yeah.
There's def- there's definitely- they're out there.
tim pool
But it is true that a lot of, uh, a lot of millennials were not getting jobs.
serge du preez
Very true.
Yeah.
adam johnson
My oldest, uh, I mean, he's- he's a go-getter.
He actually, uh, he buys broken gaming systems and fixes them.
Goes through, solders things, and sells them back to the, uh, local flea market.
unidentified
That's awesome.
hannah claire brimelow
That's very cool.
tim pool
ReadyToRumble says, Tim has never been in a fight in his entire life.
False!
I mean that's just ridiculous.
Have you been in a fight?
shane cashman
Oh yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, have you been in a fight?
adam johnson
It's my hobby.
tim pool
I used to do... I briefly took... It depends on what you mean by fight for sure, but I've been in actual fights where it was wild and a kid DDT'd me once when I was in grade school.
shane cashman
DDT?
tim pool
Yeah, cause like WWE was so big and we got into a fight and I don't watch WWE so I was just swinging and then he grabbed me and then he did it.
It didn't hurt at all and I was confused as to what happened but everyone thought it was a big deal.
I got into a fight in grade school and I've gotten into a bunch of fights when I was older but like, you know, few and far between.
Watch the live streams where I'm fighting with Antifa.
There's a photo of me and Luke fighting with an Antifa guy and it was printed in like New York Daily News or something.
So this guy smacked my hand and I grabbed him and then I was surrounded by cops so I just locked his arm and he tried to get away and I wouldn't let him and then Luke pulled his mask off and then everyone got pictures of his face and so I don't know it depends on what you mean by fight.
adam johnson
No, I do jiu-jitsu a couple days a week.
I train at Gracie Bradenton.
You should definitely come train with me if anyone is ever in town.
tim pool
But is that what someone means by being in a fight, though?
You know what I mean?
adam johnson
It's a fight.
You're getting choked out.
serge du preez
Is it a street fight, though?
tim pool
But it's not the same, like, they're not trying to actually hurt you, they're trying to win a fight, and you tap out, and they say, okay.
Like, maybe they mean, this person means by fight, as in, you're in the middle of the street, and some dude's trying to stomp your head on the curb.
shane cashman
You gotta know, yeah, how to define it, because you're not trying to kill the person.
I've been jumped, I've been hit in the head, I've been in different fights whether it was like our little fight club we had throughout middle school and high school where you schedule this fight with this guy and you're bare knuckle punch each other in the face or you're getting jumped by the football team or you're at a jujitsu match you know or you're in a mosh pit where everyone's throwing their fists around and you leave with a broken ear nose like I did for a long time.
I guess it depends what a fight is, you know?
serge du preez
Yeah, it depends.
But they're all fun.
It's different than, like, actually being sanctioned in any way, that's for sure.
It's still a fight, though.
shane cashman
Oh, yeah, I'm not saying it's not a fight, for sure.
serge du preez
But, yeah, different... I guess you could say different environment calls for it.
adam johnson
I think it was UFC 1, 2, and 4, and they had to change the rules because jiu-jitsu won the first four.
And if that's not simulating fighting and winning in actual fighting, I don't know.
serge du preez
Yeah, hell yeah.
tim pool
All right, Aaron James says, Tim, please shout out the Millennials who aren't lazy.
Those who are getting married, working hard, raising kids, starting businesses like my wife, Coach Sophie James.
Helping people manage real work-life balance.
I'm not saying all Millennials.
The reason why I say Millennials suck is because we have a disproportionate amount of lazy, like, just awful people in the Millennial generation.
But of course, I think the majority of millennials are normal.
Work hard, we're raised well.
It's just that we're getting, it's a growing body.
I think it's gonna revert back with Gen Z, and then the population's gonna collapse after that, so Gen Z's totally screwed.
Yo, this world is going to be millennial.
It's like, if you think it's bad and now the boomers control the wealth, Wait till millennials are 50 to 60 years old and there is no Gen Alpha because people aren't having kids.
So Gen Alpha is going to be really small.
People who are marketing are going to say, what's the point of marketing to a microscopic target market?
They'll have some companies, but this is going to be the death of culture.
A large component of it is no incentive towards making new things because Gen Alpha is too small and millennials are too big.
So if I'm going to, look, We did a gun rights documentary.
We're looking at running commercials.
Where should I run the commercials?
A reasonable marketing decision is, have these commercials run on channels that like guns.
Because then people are going to want to watch.
Hold on there a minute.
What's the point of that?
They'll know this already, but they'll like it and they're more likely to buy it.
Okay, but that's not the mission.
So what is the ad we're running on Google?
unidentified
All.
tim pool
Just anywhere in the United States on any kind of content, 18 and up, let the commercial run.
And it means we'll make less money, but I'm not trying to get a bunch of people who already agree with me to watch something so we can all pat each other on the back.
That's stupid.
But this is what's going to happen in the future.
A guy's gonna be like, I got a million bucks to invest, I wanna make at least a million bucks back on top.
Okay, well if we go for Gen Alpha, I don't know, you might make 1.3?
Okay, what about Gen Z?
unidentified
1.7?
tim pool
What about Millennials?
3 million?
Okay, if I can triple my money off Millennials, what kind of bands do we gotta get?
Oh, you gotta get the oldies, the classics, you know, like Smashing Pumpkins.
Okay, then they do.
And then the new up-and-coming bands are not getting paid.
They're not getting hired for gigs because they don't sell enough tickets.
That's just it.
Is Jen Alpha going to be able to fill a 4,000 seat venue?
Are they going to be able to fill a stadium?
Probably not.
serge du preez
Yeah, probably not.
tim pool
It's going to be aging.
Look, Blink-182 just came out with a new album.
And it's doing really well.
Their album's doing really well because nostalgia sells.
It's not absolute, but with population decline narrowing down, Even young people, what's gonna happen is you're gonna have some 20-year-old businessman, millennials are gonna be in their 50s and 60s, and this 20-year-old dude's gonna be like, I make a bunch of money selling Rolling Stones t-shirts.
That's it.
I mean, already Gen Z wearing Nirvana shirts, I think is funny.
I think you died after Kurt Cobain, but it's cool that you're wearing a shirt.
hannah claire brimelow
Name three songs, name three songs.
tim pool
No, there was that viral video where the woman was like, I don't even know what this is.
Remember that?
Yeah, she's like, they were selling it at the mall and I bought it.
Like, what is it?
hannah claire brimelow
Yup.
tim pool
And then she played it for the first time, like, is that what this is?
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
We're old.
Alright, what do we got?
Thick Mc C Run Fast says, Trump is the guy playing Roy in that episode of Rick and Morty where someone goes, dude, this guy is taking Roy off the grid.
Reference to Blitz and Chits.
Yo, the new Rick and Morty is painfully bad.
serge du preez
I know.
hannah claire brimelow
Because they got rid of that guy, right?
tim pool
That guy who made it!
unidentified
Justin Roiland.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't understand how we would have shows like this.
This doesn't make any sense.
serge du preez
The best part is that he is now basically found innocent as far as everyone can tell.
Nothing has happened to him.
tim pool
People are still dragging him over some leaked messages I don't know a whole lot about.
But the real accusations that got him fired from everything was domestic abuse that was proven false.
serge du preez
Yeah, it was proven false.
That's amazing.
That's the funniest part.
tim pool
The funny thing is, so Jester Roiland voiced, like most of the characters, he voiced Rick and Morty.
They've replaced him, and the first few episodes had no Morty in it, because the dude just sucks at doing the voice.
And now, the episode with Morty, it sounds like the dude, after he voices Morty, is gasping and wheezing, because he's struggling and straining himself to do this voice.
The voice, like, yeah, the current voice of Morty sounds like he's always gotta stick up his ass.
It's just like, it's an agitated way to do the voice, and it's just like, aw, this is so miserable.
adam johnson
I won't watch it, it ended for me.
It's over.
serge du preez
Yeah, it's over.
adam johnson
It's over, it's like you with the Marvels, like I, for me, Endgame was the end.
Thank you very much, I appreciate that.
The same thing with Star Wars, like, Six was the last one, everything else... Fanfiction.
unidentified
Yeah, it's all fanfiction.
hannah claire brimelow
Sometimes things have to come to an end.
I mean, I hate to say that.
And harshly, with Rick and Morty, it's sort of unfair because it was premature, but things can't last forever, unfortunately.
And sometimes it's better to stop.
I'll reference one of my favorite shows, Gilmore Girls, where the writer and producer and her husband got into a huge debate with the studio.
And so they left out of the sixth season.
And a lot of people who watch it just don't watch the last one because it wasn't written.
So it's not the same feel.
tim pool
I got an idea.
We're going to create the Tim Cass documentary universe.
And what we would do is, at the end of Infringed, after the credits, it shows, like, you know, Lauren sitting at a bar drinking, and then, like, Benny Johnson will walk in or something, and he'll be like, I need to show you something about this.
And then he slides, like, a voting report to her, and then it's like, because that's what MCE, all it really was, was they were marketing their next movie, and then they decided later, like, I guess they're all in the same universe, let's connect them, and we'll do the Avengers, and it turned into a universe.
shane cashman
Do that.
adam johnson
They were making people wait for that dopamine dump though.
You were waiting a couple years in between movies.
I think that's what I loved about those post-credits.
serge du preez
It's like forced delayed gratification.
tim pool
And some of the end scenes don't even make sense anymore.
So they stopped making sense.
Like at the end of, uh, I think at the end of Hulk, uh, what's the end of Hulk?
You get, uh, the general meeting with Robert Downey Jr.
And it was like signaling Iron Man or whatever.
But I don't know, I think Iron Man was first?
I don't know, whatever.
Yeah, it was first.
So then what was, what movie, and what was before, there was a movie that ends and it shows them talking to Robert Downey Jr.
Maybe that was the Hulk and it was for part two or something.
But it used to be like, you know, after I think Captain America or something or one movie, they find Thor's hammer or whatever.
So it was a direct, hey, this movie's next.
There was one movie that ended and it was like Harry Styles was there.
And everyone's like, oh, and then like nothing happened with that.
hannah claire brimelow
I was trying to make that guy relevant.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't know.
I was like, I guess he's here, you know.
adam johnson
I swear to God at the Irwin Deadpool 3, I'm just...
tim pool
Oh, man.
Yeah, I'll go see that one.
adam johnson
I will go walk in the building.
tim pool
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It's gonna be a lot of fun.
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Adam, do you want to shout anything out?
adam johnson
I'm on X exclusively.
Facebook got rid of my account again for some unknown reason.
So I'm on X exclusively.
I'm an at-lectern leader.
So come give me a follow.
A lot of satire.
You'll probably hate most of what I say, but that's who I am.
shane cashman
Awesome.
It was awesome doing the show with you, man.
Awesome to meet you.
I'm Matt Shane Cashman everywhere.
My next story that I got coming up, I got to spend the day with NWA wrestlers.
That was a crazy day.
Shout out to Billy Corgan and the world's heavyweight champion, EC3, who's probably watching right now.
They let me hang around, see a lot of cool stuff, talk a lot of cool pro wrestlers, and I see a little distinction between pro wrestling world and also American politics.
So I'm looking forward to sharing that with everybody pretty soon.
hannah claire brimelow
That's awesome.
You can find that at TimCastNews.
You go to TimCast.com, click on the read tab, look for Shane's stories, look for stories from Chris Burtman, from me, from a bunch of other people.
I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow.
I'm a writer for TimCastNews.
Follow at TimCastNews on Instagram and X. And if you want to follow me personally, I'm on Instagram at hannahclare.b and I'm on X at hcbrimlow.
Guys, thank you so much.
Bye, Serge.
serge du preez
Bye-bye, Hannah-Claire.
I am happy with today's episode.
It was fun.
Pleasure to see you, as always.
And I am excited for the after show.
Let's do this.
tim pool
We'll see you all over at TimCast.com.
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