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tim pool
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unidentified
Oh, am I supposed to be talking?
libby emmons
I can talk, but I don't have new information.
unidentified
I'm seeing unconfirmed reports.
libby emmons
I can talk, but I don't have new information.
unidentified
Final vote is held.
libby emmons
I'm seeing unconfirmed reports.
unidentified
We got the news.
Yeah, that's all I've been seeing to stay indoors and report any suspicious behavior
to the local authorities.
Also getting this statement tonight.
Congressman Jared Golden issuing a statement saying the current active shooter situation of Lewiston.
Quote, like all Mainers, I'm horrified by the events in Lewiston tonight.
This is my hometown right now.
All of us are looking to local law enforcement as they gain control of the situation and gather information.
Our hearts break for those who are affected.
We encourage everyone to follow the directions of the authorities as they conduct their work.
We want to show you some of this video that was taken by our crews who first arrived in Lewiston tonight.
You can see just blue lights pretty much everywhere.
tim pool
Okay, that's not helping.
Let's see if we can... It's not helping.
libby emmons
I'm seeing something from RAW Reporting, which I don't know if that's accurate.
I have no idea if that's accurate.
They're saying that police have issued a be on the lookout.
For a person who is driving a 2013 white Subaru Outback.
tim pool
White Subaru.
libby emmons
But I don't know if that's... I don't know this account, so I don't know if that's accurate.
tim pool
Okay, so there's one photo that people are posting.
unidentified
I'm seeing this, uh...
tim pool
Ron retweeted it.
I don't know if his mugshot is correct, though.
unidentified
Is it in Spanish?
ron coleman
Well, it seems to be... It's from centralmaine.com.
unidentified
Robert Card.
ron coleman
That's Robert Card, who doesn't look particularly Mideastern to me.
tim pool
He does not.
He looks Asian.
serge du preez
If anything.
tim pool
He looks half Asian.
brett dasovic
This one?
unidentified
Yeah.
area. Yeah. Let's see if I can pull this one up on law enforcement. We'll pull this one up.
tim pool
It looks like he may be, uh, he looks half Asian.
libby emmons
Where is that?
Where are you looking?
tim pool
There's a tweet.
libby emmons
Is this the one that Ron tweeted?
unidentified
Yes.
libby emmons
He just tweeted this?
ron coleman
Yeah.
brett dasovic
All right.
tim pool
Here's what my Twitter looks like.
What do we have here?
Uh, there we go.
serge du preez
That's what I've seen too.
So that second photograph on the right is actually from his indictment as, from what it's saying, a child, had child sexual material.
libby emmons
But we don't have confirmation on that.
serge du preez
Right.
libby emmons
We don't have confirmation that that's the same guy.
tim pool
And this doesn't look like the same guy.
libby emmons
It doesn't look like the same guy.
tim pool
That's the same guy, right?
That's a very different nose!
libby emmons
And look at the hair!
unidentified
No.
libby emmons
No, it's not the same guy.
Because I sent her the petto thing a while ago and she was like, nah, that's not the same guy.
tim pool
No, it's not the same guy.
libby emmons
Yeah, I was like, I don't know, I'm checking it out, you know?
tim pool
The hair is curly.
brett dasovic
Fillory tweeted, uh...
ron coleman
Yeah, there's a long face versus a...
serge du preez
There's a person that's, yeah, Phil posted, they told me there's a guy that's actually on the scene
there.
Uh, just to shut him out.
His name was something very long and difficult to read.
Let's see, his name was, uh... Uh, let me read this here.
tim pool
Phil retweeted something you said?
serge du preez
Yeah, there's a guy that's there on the ground.
libby emmons
Yeah, those noses are- those noses are very, very different.
serge du preez
Dominius Brandonus Elias Dickius.
I don't- He's on the ground.
tim pool
This actually does look more like it might be the guy, but he's got short hair and he's shaved, so we don't know for sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
I think that's... But this is the wrong guy!
libby emmons
That's a different guy.
tim pool
Yeah, that's a different guy, man.
libby emmons
People keep... People are getting this confused.
And it's easy to get it confused.
That's why you have to, like, just chill.
serge du preez
Be very careful to say what comes out.
You can't know before.
libby emmons
It's better to be accurate than first.
serge du preez
Yeah.
brett dasovic
Well, that's the problem with the world.
That's the problem with the world we live in now.
libby emmons
Some snack and beef.
brett dasovic
Because people don't see a lot of desire to be right.
They desire to be first a lot of times, especially online.
libby emmons
Yeah, I don't think that's the same guy.
I wonder what his background is here.
It's, of course, trending on Twitter.
ron coleman
You know what?
It might be fruitful for us to maybe discuss this shooting at another show.
libby emmons
Because we don't know anything.
tim pool
Well, we have this photo right here, and I can tell you, this guy right here, that is not that Asian-looking dude.
ron coleman
It sure doesn't seem that way, does it?
tim pool
Is it a bowling alley?
serge du preez
Yeah, bowling alley, then a nearby bar, I think, are the places that go.
tim pool
Oh, this is so annoying.
Phil keeps retweeting this shit.
Come on, Phil.
This is the wrong guy.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Wrong guy!
This photo looks like it might be him.
But the Robert W. Card in that other photo... Robert W. Card.
Very, very different dude.
Central Maine.
libby emmons
Well, and of course, Robert W. Card from the 2016, he's just like, no.
No, don't have my same name, dude, please.
brett dasovic
Literally everybody with that name is just like, please no.
libby emmons
It's enough, please.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
libby emmons
Don't drag up my past crimes.
Yeah.
ron coleman
Sick, sick, sick.
serge du preez
Yeah, sad.
ron coleman
Yeah, overlapping sickie.
Overlapping sickos.
Don't confuse the mass murderer for the child porn guy.
libby emmons
If the child porn guy has paid his debt to society, then there's no reason to drag his name through the mud more.
unidentified
If he's done his time.
So Marissa, actually, so we are still here of course at Central Maine Medical Center,
but it has quieted down a little as we look over here and you can see no families outside the hospital.
They were moved to a different location.
Still a very heavy security over here.
There's officers with long guns, security officers as well with long guns patrolling the sidewalks as well as the entrances here and Just some context for those of you just tuning in on Fox 23.
We've been here for, you know, more than an hour.
We've had a crew here and there have been life flights going in, but there also have been helicopters circling the area as well and one security officer telling us that that is, you know, a sign that it is still very much an active situation.
But when there were families here, there were, you know, a few dozen people out here trying to get in touch with Their loved ones inside.
I talked to two different people.
One of them had a son here that was inside.
They said he was at Schmingy's.
I know we have a crew over there.
He said his son was sitting right in Schmingy's and he heard about the situation, called his son, hasn't been able to get in touch with him.
Another woman we met who lives right here in Lewiston, she has a son who was at the bowling alley and was not able to get in touch with him as well.
There were tears, of course, and a lot of people just on their toes trying to figure out what's going on.
Like I mentioned, I can't say it again enough, an active situation, so hopefully everybody is certainly staying safe and following that shelter in place order that we're learning about from the city.
And Johnny, you don't know, you said the families who had obviously a large number of family members just anxiously in anguish, waiting for information about their loved ones, hoping to get good news, but not sure what's happening.
They were outside, you said earlier.
To your knowledge, were they ushered into the hospital or were they dispersed to someplace else?
Or where did those family members go?
So as for that entrance we've been showing you, Greg, they did not go inside of that entrance, but certainly a significant campus here at Central Main Med.
I actually was having trouble hearing you.
I just got a public safety alert on my phone.
Mike, behind the camera here, I'm not sure if you can zoom in and find this for you, but it says Androscoggin County officials have issued a... Oh, there's the phone.
A countywide shelter-in-place order.
Again, an emergency alert coming to my phone.
Please make sure your homes and vehicles are secured.
Updates from officials will be provided.
So again, that just coming into my phone here.
Now a public safety alert for all of Androscoggin County, as we heard Senator King say, like you guys mentioned as well.
That's good to know, Johnny.
Again, we've already heard Lewiston first, then Auburn second, now Andrews-Scoggin County wide.
Telling people, until they know where this guy is, they're telling people to, you know, obviously exercise an abundance of caution.
serge du preez
So they don't really know anything.
unidentified
Yeah, it's crazy.
tim pool
So let's, we'll just wait for that press conference.
I mean, we can pull in callers while we're waiting for the press conference.
serge du preez
Kellan's currently listening to the police scanners and stuff like that.
Apparently they're shooting on Route 196, so if anyone's traveling on Route 1986, be ready to be stopped.
Who knows what's going to happen.
tim pool
Sounds like this guy might get away.
serge du preez
Yeah, they're also they were circling a boat ramp.
This is from what Kellan was telling me.
Circling a boat ramp seeing if he took a boat to escape Maine obviously.
To escape Maine.
Isn't it central Maine though?
libby emmons
Yeah.
serge du preez
I wonder how they do that.
libby emmons
I mean there's lakes and things.
serge du preez
Yeah, exactly.
Wouldn't be able to go too far.
unidentified
Right.
serge du preez
Alright, let's see here.
Brockman J. I can't read the rest of your name.
That's all I can see right there.
You're with us right now.
How are you?
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serge du preez
Hey, how's it going, guys?
I'm doing pretty good.
tim pool
Aside from this mass shooting, jeez.
libby emmons
Yeah, for real.
tim pool
Crazy.
Wait, wait.
Aside from the mass shooting, it's going very poorly.
World War III is on the horizon.
And OK, anyway, how are you doing?
unidentified
I'm doing all right.
Thank you guys for taking my call.
I really appreciate it.
You guys are awesome.
Everything you do.
My question is, with everything that's been happening, do you think that China has been working directly with Iran and Russia covertly in many different world stages in order to weaken the U.S.
and take it over from the inside and outside?
And if so, how do you think it's happening?
tim pool
Gotta break that apart.
Is China trying to subvert the United States from the inside and outside?
Yes.
Are they working with Iran to do it?
I mean, maybe a little bit.
China's likely working with Iran for a specific facet of how they want to take down the United States, but I don't think it's like China and Iran teamed up to do this whole plan.
ron coleman
I would be very surprised if China and Iran is a deep alliance.
serge du preez
I would be too.
ron coleman
I would think that, yeah, I would think that in a particular situation where there is mutuality of interest, yes.
But China does not want to see Iran become particularly powerful because Iran has, especially, you know, given the support from the Obama-Biden administrations, Has the potential to be a problem for a lot of interests that China, you know, that mean a lot to China, including the way it treats its Muslims.
libby emmons
That's an interesting point.
Well, I mean, I guess Iran is part of the BRICS nations now.
So in that sense they are They have formed some kind of an alliance and the US has asked China to To influence Iran and the whole Middle East situation.
ron coleman
Yeah, that's a really really smart ask Yeah.
libby emmons
So, there have been, like, definitely public... Has anyone considered asking this guy, the shooter in Maine, by the way, to just, you know, to influence... He should probably get involved.
Definitely.
Especially if he's, you know, considered to believe swarthy, I suppose.
ron coleman
I don't know.
He doesn't look that swarthy in these pictures.
libby emmons
He doesn't actually, does he, at all.
tim pool
No, he does.
libby emmons
Does he?
ron coleman
You think so?
libby emmons
How so?
tim pool
That's what it means.
libby emmons
Swarthy?
ron coleman
Yeah, it's like... It means darker than you and me.
tim pool
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
libby emmons
He looks like he has light-colored hair, though, in those pictures.
ron coleman
No, no, no, no.
You can't say that.
tim pool
We got photos of him right here.
libby emmons
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like he could be Middle Eastern.
ron coleman
But his name is Mark Card.
unidentified
Robert?
ron coleman
Oh, maybe, I mean, Robert Card.
But maybe it isn't.
serge du preez
Maybe it isn't.
libby emmons
Yeah, we don't know.
tim pool
Well, his name may be Robert Card, but there's a different Robert Card.
There's Robert W. Card.
And that guy looks Asian.
Maybe this guy's finally snapped because everyone keeps calling him a pedo.
libby emmons
That's it.
That's his motivation.
He's just a killer now.
tim pool
But, uh, we're back to the back to our caller.
Do you have a question?
unidentified
Yes.
serge du preez
Anything to add?
unidentified
Yeah.
So some of the context is just a lot of the stuff that you guys have been covering lately is, you know, there were U.S.
weapons found out that Moss were using.
Apparently, um, Iran has been packing Moss.
tim pool
We don't know that for sure.
serge du preez
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
serge du preez
I don't remember that being confirmed at all.
unidentified
Yep.
So the, you know, you guys have also reported that China has reportedly wanted to drag us into the US into a hot conflict and there's been, sorry?
tim pool
On four fronts.
unidentified
Right.
So if they've already gotten our Southern border or gotten through our Southern border, um, Pull us to Taiwan, pull us to Israel, and they've already pulled us into Ukraine, which covers, you know, Russia, China, Iran, and whoever else would like to be involved in that.
You know, it seems like they could possibly be working together to spread us thin.
tim pool
It's not, it's, it's, it's BRICS.
It's not just China and Iran.
I mean, they all have a vested interest in taking the US down.
We've got a generation of young people who don't want jobs and are claiming that they won't be drafted.
I just love this.
These people who vote Democrat then say, go draft the conservatives.
No, we voted against this.
You're first, buddy.
I'm gonna make sure all these young Gen Z people who voted Democrat, bro, you are first in line.
I am going to work with our good men and women in uniform to figure out where you went.
I mean, you voted for the war.
Don't run away from it now.
I'm going to knock on your door for you.
unidentified
I'm currently 30 and trying to start a family with my fiancé and don't want to get dragged into any... Nah, you're 30, you're good.
libby emmons
You're probably good, yeah.
tim pool
You're good.
I mean, only if it really gets bad do they start moving up to the 30s.
unidentified
Yeah.
ron coleman
Start a family with your wife.
libby emmons
That sounds nice.
ron coleman
Marry her.
unidentified
We're trying to... Shout out to my fiancé, Danielle.
Love you.
ron coleman
Danielle, make an honest marriage with him.
No babies for fiancés.
libby emmons
Babies for wives only.
Seems fair.
unidentified
We've got a lot of sick families, so we're trying to get everything to line up to get married and make sure everybody's there.
But if a child comes first, we're more than happy to bring that.
ron coleman
Well, if a child comes first, then you must, by all means, bring him into the world, or her, by all means.
Blessings to you.
All the best.
serge du preez
Cheers, brother.
tim pool
They're shutting down schools in Lewiston.
Thanks for calling in, man.
serge du preez
Best of luck as well.
Yeah, apparently there's ten shooters there.
I haven't seen that.
Someone in the chat mentioned that.
I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere else.
The ten shooters thing.
libby emmons
Ten shooters?
serge du preez
Yeah, I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere else.
unidentified
Listen, we have to recognize- Three shooters, at least one arrested, apparently.
ron coleman
Every place in America, and most places in most places of the world, are vulnerable to lunatics.
That's always going to be true.
We can't solve every problem, and we can't anticipate every problem.
And I don't think it's necessarily southern border security that is the problem, although it certainly doesn't help!
libby emmons
Yeah, I don't think it helps.
serge du preez
Um... I would like to see what Doomachine thinks.
Doomachine, how are you tonight?
unidentified
I'm doing well.
serge du preez
Great.
unidentified
Long-time listener, third-time caller.
serge du preez
I recognize the voice.
ron coleman
Yeah, I remember you from the first couple times.
unidentified
How you doing?
First off, I'd like to apologize from the state of North Dakota for Doug Burgum.
serge du preez
No, don't apologize.
I'm a burger maniac.
You don't have to apologize for anything, man.
I'm all about it.
I'm on board.
unidentified
Did you get your, uh, um, did you spend, donate your $1 to get your $20 gas card for this go around to get into the debate?
serge du preez
Can I even get the gas card?
unidentified
If I would, I might do it, but I think so still.
serge du preez
Hmm.
Alright, we'll look into that.
I'm gonna put a poster down right now.
It's expensive.
It is expensive.
unidentified
On to my questions for Ron.
Hi!
So, our local teachers union recently brought a grievance against the district superintendent.
And at a special meeting two weeks ago, both parties were represented by legal counsel, and the school board voted, they had a quorum, and they voted to side with the union's grievance.
That was two weeks ago.
Last night, They voted to change their mind and side with the superintendent without legal counsel present.
So does that put them in a sticky situation if they made a decision in front of with legal counsel and then just change their mind two weeks later thus basically You know, nullifying their previous decision.
ron coleman
You raise a good question, but there are too many unknown, to me, possibilities.
I don't know procedurally why it was before them again the second time.
I also don't really know municipal law.
unidentified
I can explain why it went before them a second time.
ron coleman
Okay.
unidentified
Okay, so in the first special meeting, someone on the board voted or moved to dismiss the grievance of the union, and that failed.
And the president of the school board said, motion failed, the grievance for the teachers union stands.
And that was the end of the meeting.
Then they looked at council, nobody said anything, and then they're like, well, meeting adjourned.
So their rationale for bringing it again last night was that they never took an action in the affirmative.
ron coleman
This is a mess, and I don't also understand why a union grievance is being decided in that fashion.
I think the question you're asking is probably going to be the subject of some Claim some motion, some additional grievance, some, you know, it sounds like, listen, most school boards are run by people of the best of intentions, who are not, you know, experts in the legal niceties of these sorts of things going on, and if they have a good counsel for the board, he or she will manage things so that
Procedurally, errors are not made, but it's a big ask.
I'm sure there's going to be a lot of opportunity for lawyers to be heard on this subject.
tim pool
I want to just mention, people are putting out a bunch of different videos claiming he was arrested.
The videos are all from different angles and different places.
These are not real.
Uh, the first thing you'll notice in some of these videos are that his pants and shirt are different.
That's the most obvious thing.
Uh, one's got a guy wearing all blue.
This- maybe he changed his clothes, not likely.
Another video, these are random accounts tweeting this out.
It's an overhead shot where a guy's getting arrested.
unidentified
People are likely just finding- What the hell is this?
libby emmons
Oh my goodness.
unidentified
Well, alright, well, let's, uh, let's... We found some locals.
Uh, D-Machine, I just wanted to say thank you very much.
I hope it was good news for you.
Yeah, thanks.
Cheers.
ron coleman
I'm sorry I interrupted, I just... Well, what was it on the screen?
unidentified
What was it?
That's a good question.
libby emmons
It's clearly a woman.
unidentified
That's a good question from other people. It's clearly a woman. Oh, yeah, this is this is not good
I said you have family and you've been able to contact them.
My family knows all about it Thank God my son has technology where he has a smartphone.
So he's got the scanner and he's following it all.
So I've had all my friends on the phone with me to make sure they're safe.
And I told them, lock your doors, lock your windows, because you don't know if this person's capable of...
And there is a shelter in place, but you said you're here in the hospital just to pray for these people.
Yep.
Doing a lot of praying.
God's on overtime, because I have a funny feeling there's going to be a lot of people that might not survive, from what I've heard.
Have you talked to some of the families down there?
Yeah, a little bit.
Like I said, there's one girl down there.
There's five people.
She just whipped out five names of people that they, you know.
And they brought in somebody in a vehicle that was shot.
Right from the pickup.
Took him right in the hospital.
tim pool
I can't believe that there are people tweeting out these videos, dude.
I just... I know I can believe it.
Breaking news!
The mass shooter was arrested.
Bro, you're posting a video of a guy wearing a blue jumpsuit getting arrested.
And it's two seconds long.
I just can't believe people are like... There's a bunch of different videos, different angles.
One is overhead, and it's a guy on the middle of the road wearing blue jeans.
The guy in the photo shooting these things up was wearing dark pants, not light blue jeans.
This other video shows a guy wearing all blue.
They're two different locations completely, and people are just like, yup, here it is.
Man, this is so brutal.
Fortunately, people are showing that the other Asian pedophile is not the shooter.
But people keep posting a bunch of these different videos.
Wow, man.
These videos of Card look like the guy.
unidentified
Yeah.
serge du preez
It's all for clicks.
No, I just... People are just... Taking advantage of the situation in some cases and others... It's crazy that people are posting this stuff.
Disinformation, you know?
tim pool
They're just retweeting a random video, dude.
Well, uh... Fake video, fake video.
20,000 followers.
Dude even follows me, am I gonna have to go messaging these people being like, what the fuck are you doing, bro?
libby emmons
Right, stop doing that.
tim pool
Here's another video claiming they got him.
unidentified
What is this one?
tim pool
Nope, this is just a video of an ambulance at the hospital and they're claiming he was arrested.
unidentified
Thank you.
Yeah, I don't think any of that is... People are saying the dude is in the army.
libby emmons
This stuff is not helpful to do.
serge du preez
Yeah, indeed.
tim pool
Yeah, everyone's just spamming the same fake videos.
serge du preez
Should I speak to the next caller?
tim pool
Yeah, let's pull the next caller while we're tracking this.
serge du preez
FireGodVulcan, you're live.
How you doing?
unidentified
How's it going, guys?
You hear me?
serge du preez
Yeah, loud and clear.
unidentified
All right.
Mine's a little off topic.
I wasn't expecting all this to go down tonight.
serge du preez
It's not a nice topic to be on.
unidentified
But since we have a lawyer, these plea deals, they seem to not be what they are on the front, given the fact that the media has lied to us multiple times.
Do you think we should believe all that they are saying?
And have you read the court documents about the actual plea deals?
And what would you think would happen if the left found out that they aren't exactly what they seem?
Because from what I've read, the judge is not putting in a guilty or not guilty plea.
He's putting in a dismissal.
tim pool
You're, you're, you're saying that, right.
And that's right.
That's the terms of the probation.
That's, that's normal.
unidentified
Yeah.
They're going to dismiss it.
Well, sometimes it turns probation.
You still get guilty, but you don't go to jail.
This one was just dismissed of all charges.
Well, Ron, you're a lawyer.
I am.
ron coleman
What is the question?
tim pool
Jenna, so in the plea agreements from Jenna Ellis, the judge is dismissing the charges in exchange for five years probation, 1,000, what is it, 100 community service hours?
brett dasovic
It's like 100, right?
unidentified
Yes, but they're not technically guilty pleas.
The judge isn't accepting them as guilty, he's putting them in deferment for dismissal.
tim pool
My understanding is that is normal when you are getting probation on a first offense.
When I got charged with driving a suspended license, I was explicitly told, you plead guilty to the court.
It is recorded as guilty.
And then after six months, it is removed from your record.
ron coleman
In other words, it's not a conviction.
It is a guilty plea, but it's not a conviction.
And that is different from a dismissal, but that is something that could be negotiated.
tim pool
I believe it's deferred, is what the documents actually say.
unidentified
Yeah, it's a deferral.
tim pool
But that's probation.
ron coleman
She has to fulfill the conditions of the probation.
It won't be dismissed until the six months passes and she has fulfilled those conditions.
tim pool
This is semantics.
ron coleman
Yes, that's right.
tim pool
Yeah, she's pleaded guilty to the crime, admitted to the court, apologized, and is being punished for it.
And the legal language is deferred and dismissed upon completion of the terms.
I was arrested, charged, I bonded, and went to court and was told if I plead guilty to driving on a suspended license, it will eventually be completely removed from my record.
Now, when I'm asked by any potential employer, have you ever been convicted of a crime, the answer is no, because it's off my record and removed following court supervision.
That's like a normal thing, but it still means that I went into court and I was not convicted.
Pleaded guilty, accepted the punishment, $150 fine, and that was the end of it.
unidentified
Okay.
I was just making sure because it seems weird that they're going to dismiss these charges, but the news, of course, won't report that.
tim pool
But understand, dismiss doesn't mean she's not guilty.
Dismiss means like, upon completion of the terms, the case is settled, basically.
Yeah.
But more importantly, the thing she's giving, all that matters is culture.
Politics is downstream from culture.
When she stood up in court and said, I did it and I'm sorry.
It was done.
After that, they could have bought her a chocolate cheesecake and given her a high five.
She backstabbed Donald Trump.
Look, either she betrayed this country when she took a case knowing it was fraudulent and that she was lying.
She wrote to the Colorado Bar apparently that she knew she was using false statements or whatever.
So either she intentionally fucked all of us by lying to the American people to try and help Trump
when she knew it was wrong, or she's betraying the Constitution when she actually was doing her duty,
but is terrified now and trying to save her ass.
unidentified
Don't, don't, don't get- Now my upcoming, my upcoming question would be if the
lawyer was lying and then lying to Trump, wouldn't that uh, give him some sort of immunity?
tim pool
I don't know about immunity, but Trump could certainly use that argument.
I defer to you, Ron.
Trump could argue, Jenna Ellis admitted she lied and she misled me.
ron coleman
Jenna Ellis is my friend.
And Donald Trump is my firm's client.
So let's talk about people getting shot in the woods of Maine.
unidentified
My answer is... Bob, I need to ask.
ron coleman
What's that?
unidentified
That's all I really wanted to ask because it seems like in a way they're kind of giving a Trump a defense.
Listen, what's going on... They were lying and they were Trump's counsel.
ron coleman
All right, Jenna wasn't lying.
That I can tell you.
She wasn't lying.
tim pool
Is she lying now?
ron coleman
Is she lying now?
I don't know what she's doing now, but I can tell you that... Well, she's either lying then or now.
This is like cross-examination, but you have to ask the witness, not the person who's talking about it.
unidentified
I don't know whether... Well, if the court's going to take it as she did give false statements because she pled guilty to that, that gives Trump a legal outing saying, I was just following my legal counsel.
ron coleman
I didn't know they were No, no, all I wanted to say is that the Trump prosecutions are so remotely related to any semblance of law and logic that you may as well tell me that he can't be convicted because he was wearing sandals.
I mean, it's just one non sequitur after another.
You're right.
Getting our arms around all this and here's the thing.
I would, alright.
I'm a little bit too close to the matter to say anything else.
tim pool
Fair response.
My statement would be anybody who is involved right now, right now, if you're in politics, take a good, hard look in the mirror and decide right now if you would rather go bowling, play golf, or have a beer with the boys, because this is not for you if you are the kind of person who will cry on the stand and Let's just say backtrack on your previously held political convictions.
If you are not, if you're not prepared for this, then now's the time.
You know what really, really pisses me off?
It is not when someone refuses to fight.
It is not when someone refuses to work.
What bothers me the most is when someone says, what do you need done, Tim?
And I'm like, look, we need someone who's gonna be able to lift this heavy box.
I gotta go to a meeting in an hour, but when I get back, I need that box lifted.
Can you do it for me?
You got it.
An hour later, I come back, the box isn't lifted, and I go, I didn't feel like doing it.
If you told me you weren't gonna do it, I would have found someone else, but you fucked me over.
If you're gonna be in politics, and it's gonna come down to the wire, and you are going to knife everyone in the back, just leave now.
Leave now, we can stay friends.
I'll say, this wasn't made for you.
You couldn't stand the heat, so you left.
I respect that.
It's the people who stick around and then cry and beg and sell out their friends to a corrupt establishment state that really piss me off.
But anyway, thanks for calling.
unidentified
Cheers!
I couldn't agree with you more.
serge du preez
I'm glad to hear that, man.
tim pool
The beanie is overheating again.
It is.
libby emmons
The beanie is overheating.
That's funny.
unidentified
If I can, I'd like to give a shout out to the birth of my second daughter.
That's amazing.
I put a stop on my project I was working on for the children's show because my wife was, you know, in labor and yeah.
serge du preez
It's a good reason to give a shout out.
unidentified
Good move.
ron coleman
I mean, I assume she was conscious.
unidentified
All right.
Thanks.
That's all I wanted to hear.
Thanks guys.
tim pool
All right.
ron coleman
Thank you.
tim pool
Well, we're still waiting for developments.
The man has not been arrested.
We'll jump to the next caller.
serge du preez
Uh, Hiddleston.
I can't read your name.
It's too long.
It's how discord works, but you're with us.
How are you?
unidentified
Hello.
Can you hear me?
All right.
serge du preez
Yeah.
unidentified
Thanks for taking my call.
I have a question to Tim.
In regards to electronic warfare, there's a technology which has existed since the 80s, which uses microwave induction lasers to cause various mental issues on a target.
These things are like Havana syndrome and the fray effect, which is a knocking noise in the ears.
Potentially it could be detailed communication and a general lack of focus.
Do you believe that this method of warfare will inevitably lead to various countries such as the United States or Israel or even the UK or Germany who have this technology developing a form of mass formation psychosis in a population?
ron coleman
Yeah, Tim.
tim pool
I don't know about how you form a mass formation psychosis disrupting the brain.
If you want a mass formation psychosis, you need a coherent narrative of manipulation to bond people to.
Scrambling someone's brain is going to make them all just fight each other.
And in this capacity, what we see with like Havana syndrome, All it's doing is making people struggle to keep their eyes open when they're outside, and it gives them migraines and things like that.
I don't think that's gonna... Controlling thought is much more complicated.
Controlling thought is gonna come through mass media, Twitter, Facebook, and we see them doing it, we know they're doing it.
The Twitter files got released, we know they're doing it.
That's the method of control.
But I do believe, if there ever comes a point where someone becomes too prominent and too powerful, the smartest and best thing they can do is scramble their brain.
unidentified
May I ask a follow-up question?
tim pool
Yes.
libby emmons
Like in Vonnegut.
unidentified
On that train of thought, do you believe this could be a creative form of character assassination where if somebody does become too powerful or does become too influential in any political sphere they don't like, like Donald Trump for example, they could just scramble them on stage?
tim pool
There was a story on Facebook where a woman started posting a bunch of incoherent nonsense, and it got found and went viral, and everyone's like, what is this weird profile?
Like, these paragraphs are seemingly all, like, there's just insane amounts of writing that are nonsense.
And then, the conspiracy theories as it were, some people found out that she had previously worked for the CIA.
unidentified
And...
tim pool
Occam's Razor?
She worked for the CIA, she got old, she developed schizophrenia.
It happens to old people.
People, as they get aged, these things could happen, or she became deranged, delusional, whatever.
But the conspiracy theory was that, as she was being burned and removed for whatever reason she compromised the agency, they scrambled her brain to make sure she couldn't talk.
libby emmons
Oh, terrible.
tim pool
So when she's spamming all these posts in her mind, she's coherently writing, this is what they've done, this is what they're doing, and all that's coming out is muttered gibberish.
libby emmons
Like some kind of weird aphasia type of thing?
tim pool
Hypoxia.
libby emmons
Okay.
tim pool
So when, uh, this is crazy.
Hypoxia, a lack of oxygen in the brain.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
We had, when that smoke came here from Canada, we have these oxygen canisters for athletics that you're supposed to like, you inhale and it doesn't really do anything because if you're athletic, you don't need it because you're at max oxygen saturation as it is.
And so we were joking about how bad the air was.
And I would, my throat was burned and I was coughing.
And then I was like, look, we got oxygen though.
And then as soon as I inhaled the first bit, it was like the room lit up.
libby emmons
Yeah, it's amazing.
tim pool
I did not even know.
I didn't even know that I was to a degree hypoxic.
I'm assuming I was.
Because when you're hyp... So they did this really great study they do.
Test they did.
They put a guy in a hyperbaric chamber.
They reduce the oxygen.
They have him do a math test.
Simple arithmetic.
And over the course of doing the test, they reduce the oxygen and then raise it back up.
And then they come in and take it from him.
And they ask him how they think that he did.
And he's like, I aced it.
It's easy.
Two plus two is four, right?
And they're like, right.
And they show it to him.
And as the oxygen goes down, he goes from writing the correct answers to the wrong answers to mashed scribbles on the page that aren't even numbers.
And then it comes back and he's like, I did not even know.
I thought I was writing the correct answer.
They're like, when your brain isn't working, you can't function.
brett dasovic
That's why I was always so bad at math.
That makes perfect sense.
tim pool
Yes, if there is like a Trump or something, there is an absolute incentive.
If they really want to stop Trump, scramble his brain.
brett dasovic
Elon Musk.
tim pool
Right.
But yeah, it's going to get crazy out there.
serge du preez
How does that answer your question, my friend?
unidentified
Very gloomy, grim, dark reality that we're facing.
serge du preez
Yeah, man.
Likewise.
It's a grim outlook, that's for sure.
But you have to keep hopeful.
You have to have hope, otherwise you can't change anything of it, you know?
unidentified
This is why I advocate for a very heavy investment in Warhammer, because it helps you cope with the great terrorism with the horrors beyond your comprehension.
serge du preez
True.
tim pool
Right on.
Thanks for calling in.
unidentified
Anyway, thank you.
Bye.
serge du preez
Bye-bye.
Cheers.
All right, Kai.
How are you?
Nice short screen name.
I appreciate it.
Yeah, there you go.
Can you hear me?
Yep, there you go.
unidentified
Alright, my question is about, I think it's already answered by Brockman J. But how many people do you believe are going to resist the draft if it was implemented for the possible World War III?
tim pool
How many people are they going to drift?
libby emmons
How many people would resist it?
serge du preez
Oh dude, like...
tim pool
There's a combination of tons of Gen Zers who will cry in panic, but I'm also willing to believe a good majority of them will instantly acquiesce and just cry the whole time.
libby emmons
And then just get killed.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
No, but the draft isn't combat.
I mean, this is the thing.
Everyone assumes draft means they give you a gun and push you on the front line.
No, you'll be in a kitchen.
You'll be mopping floors.
There's this dude who's like, I'm not gonna be drafted.
I'm gay.
Like, why would they draft me?
And I'm like, bro, because you can mop the floors, man.
Because you can clean the latrine for the men who do the fighting.
Come on, shut up.
Someone's got to do it.
And it's an important job.
I mean no disrespect to anybody who joins the army and says, I'm going to make sure we have functioning infrastructure so our men can do the job that must be done.
But to think that you're like, this guy is like, oh, they're going to draft me.
I can't fight.
Nah, you're good.
You can clean the toilets.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
Someone's got to do it.
You can cook the food.
Clerical work.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
Being a cook?
Awesome.
If you can make good meals, hey, soldiers march on their bellies.
Let's go.
serge du preez
Hard to make good meals fast.
Making a ton of them really fast is not easy.
brett dasovic
Do you think like a falling level of patriotism in the country also plays a role in that?
Just the, as the generations have gone on, there's just far less actual love for the country you live in.
serge du preez
Yeah, there's a lot less conflict.
brett dasovic
Like back in the day, war was so much different when people looked at it as if you were going to protect the country, you know, for your country, where nowadays, because of the internet, because of the way that the structure of the country has changed fundamentally, you just don't have that same kind of almost naivete.
tim pool
I just, I think what we should do is every, every kid at 18 should get a paid One month trip to... Let's go Morocco.
Let's go Morocco.
Let's go Marrakesh.
libby emmons
How come?
tim pool
Because the weak ones will get a rude awakening as to what the world is like.
ron coleman
In other words, the shithole country tour.
tim pool
Well, Marrakech's not that bad, but it's bad enough.
That's why I'm thinking about it.
brett dasovic
Marrakech is actually... It's like the room springer from hell.
libby emmons
Earthquake.
tim pool
Was it?
libby emmons
Marrakech is great.
unidentified
It's a good place, but let me tell you... If you're staying in an American hotel, I'm sure it's fine.
tim pool
When I went to Marrakech, I flew to Casablanca, and then when I landed and got off the plane into the terminal, I was like, okay, I gotta make a connecting flight to Marrakesh now.
And I'm walking through the airport and get to a point where I'm convinced I went the wrong way.
Why?
The walls were broken, the stairs were shattered, and there's no electricity.
And I thought, I must have wandered into like a construction portion of the airport.
I better turn around.
I turn around and I'm looking around and when I see a European-looking businessman walk past me and I'm like, Is this the way?
And he's like, connecting in.
And I was like, okay.
And like, here we go.
American guy probably, must be going to the same conference as me.
Follow him.
We walk through a portion of the airport, which looks like it's abandoned and destroyed.
And then eventually, after about 10 minutes of walking, we start seeing lights.
It starts getting nicer.
And now we're in the domestic part of the airport.
And I was like, what the fuck was that?
When I was leaving Marrakesh to the airport at three in the morning, I have a local cab.
It is a box, a little tin box car from like the 70s or whatever and we're driving down the streets in Marrakesh and the light turns red and he hits the gas and just zips past it and I'm like, and he looks back and says, if I stop, they rob us.
And I was like, get it boy!
I was like, I'm down, I get it.
And people were like, oh yeah, you stop at a red light, they'll run out with guns.
So you just zip past them.
ron coleman
I remember in the 80s, someone writing, I think it was in the old National Review, the Buckley National Review, saying, it would be a really good idea for the UN to leave New York and go to one of these shithole countries, as we call them now.
Do we?
And let's see how, let's just see how those third world delegates, you know, feel about having the, you know, the nature of their civilizations or quasi civilizations.
libby emmons
The diplomatic license plates?
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah, that's interesting.
libby emmons
I always, I think, I kind of, I like the idea that when you finish high school you get a year of like service.
You get like a service year.
ron coleman
Well, your libertarian listeners are not gonna like that very much.
libby emmons
I know they don't.
I just think we gotta... But we get so many kids who have absolutely no direction.
I mean it would have to be well organized and so that's a concern.
ron coleman
If they grew up in a household, right, where the parents are trashing You know, institutions and tradition and authority and heritage.
libby emmons
Then it won't help them anyway.
ron coleman
It won't help them in the fact it'll make them more resentful, maybe more dangerous too.
tim pool
And the biggest problem we have is that parents are handing their children off to be raised by the state and other children.
The most important thing no one talks about is that for generations we have asked our children to be raised by other children.
It used to be, 150 years ago, you would wake up, 200 years ago, you would go to where you're 10 years old, you were working with your dad, you were working with your mom, you were helping on the farm, you were learning from adults, and so the values of those adults were transponded onto those children now.
The kids are left at school, surrounded by a bunch of other moron kids who don't know what the fuck they're talking about, and they say dumbass shit all the time, and that's how they develop.
ron coleman
And who are the crop of teachers?
tim pool
Well, the teachers don't matter because students don't respect them.
ron coleman
Whatever they are, they certainly aren't helping.
tim pool
When I was in school, the teachers were an other to be ignored, and insulted, and derided, and mocked.
Everyone hated their teachers, no one liked the teachers, and they were the cool kids everyone wanted to be like.
It wasn't necessarily like that where I went to school.
My school was more like fast times.
They were like, it's funny because you always see these tropes of like the cool jockey kids.
And it's like, honestly, the jockey kids were popular, but still kind of considered dorky.
Then there were like the more like urban kids who were actually kind of cool, but not- Where was this?
South Side of Chicago.
So all these kids are learning from each other and trying to imitate each other.
And they're dumb as shit.
And so what happens when they grow up?
The values they have are based on child's values.
An amalgam of nonsense that was just spattered into a classroom.
brett dasovic
I was ambivalent towards my teachers.
I had no such animosity towards my teachers.
tim pool
But even that!
When kids are supposed to be looking up to adults and imitating them and being like, I want to be like them when I grow up.
I want to be like this.
Instead, they're like, I hate school.
I hate teachers.
brett dasovic
I was so focused on skating at that time that I have very little recollection of almost any of it.
tim pool
You know what kids should be doing?
They should be, when they get on their skateboard, insert figurative activity, they should go, Dad, Dad, look at me, look at me!
And they should try and do a kickflip.
And then you're like, that was pretty good, let me show you a kickflip.
And then you do the really good one, and then the kid's like, oh, and the kid tries it again.
Instead, the kids are looking to another kid, going, look at me!
And they're throwing a paper ball at the teacher's head.
It's just nothing.
unidentified
Anyway, they're going to draft them all and, uh, you know, I, I, I, I have no sympathy for... But there's going to be resistance, I'm sure, because I'm sure, like, Trump supporters or right-wing people are not going to send their kids off to die in a war just so that Joe Biden can get 10% for the big guy.
tim pool
No, no, no.
Yes.
But liberals are going to be like, oh no.
libby emmons
They're not going to want to do it either.
tim pool
What are they going to do about it?
libby emmons
Well, Are they gonna send their kids?
tim pool
Yep.
libby emmons
You think so?
unidentified
Yep.
libby emmons
You think liberals are gonna send their kids to go fight in a war?
tim pool
Yes, I do.
libby emmons
Really?
tim pool
Leftists, maybe not.
But liberals, yes.
unidentified
Like your basic, mainstream... Your middle-of-the-road, regular American's gonna be like, well, you know... They comply.
serge du preez
Yep.
ron coleman
That's why... But I don't think it'll be a draft.
tim pool
Tara Strong, the perfect example, bent the knee to the far left and is now shocked that they want to burn Israel to the ground and she's getting fired because of it.
They will vote all this stuff in, and they will comply with it out of fear, and it's going to be the young and the powerless who are drafted, so the older liberals are gonna be like, well, we have to do it, draft, because it protects them.
It's like, this is what I love about America.
When COVID happened, the old people in Congress and the people running the states were like, quick, sacrifice the children so we can live for five more years.
In Japan, Elderly Japanese volunteered to go into the Fukushima Daiichi reactor and die to save the children.
And when interviewed, they said, I've lived my life.
It's their turn now.
And they sacrificed.
serge du preez
Meanwhile, we got Nancy Pelosi making like millions of dollars in their stock trades.
tim pool
Maybe it's because I am part Japanese a little bit and have that Asian in me.
And they're much more honorific.
unidentified
We all know where that Japanese in you came from, Tim.
tim pool
We do.
It's fucked up, isn't it?
unidentified
Alright, yeah, I believe they answered my question, but before I go, how do I gain contact with Ian Crosland?
Just out of curiosity.
serge du preez
Oh man, we all wish we could.
brett dasovic
Send Luke a message.
Luke can pass it on.
unidentified
No, it's about the, because it's a few times I've been on, I've been talking about making like a D&D Civil War.
Oh, that's right, yeah, I remember that from last time.
tim pool
Oh, we should totally do like a two hour video where we do this.
unidentified
Well, I only have two pages now, but I'll email you guys and you guys can give it to Ian.
serge du preez
Yeah, man, send me something on my Twitter.
Just message me my DM, it's open, so I'll see your message.
For the same name here, obviously.
tim pool
We should legit do this, like a two hour, or maybe even four hour special, members only thing, which will be like multiple camera angles, live shot, D&D style, but we need to outline, like, what are the classes, right?
So we're not gonna have bards.
unidentified
Can I explain what I have so far?
tim pool
Rockstars.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Say that again, go ahead.
Can I explain what I have so far?
So yeah, for characters, for roles, it would be like accountants, fast food workers, mechanics, doctors, veterans.
I'm still putting it together, but I also have locations like Texas, Pacific Northwest, Southeast, Northeast.
So I'm still putting everything together right now.
Cool.
tim pool
Well, Ian is more easily contacted on X. Or you can hit up search.
serge du preez
Yep, or hit me up.
I'll make sure I talk to him.
unidentified
Thank you.
serge du preez
Right on.
tim pool
Thanks for calling in.
serge du preez
Cheers, mate.
tim pool
Well, I suppose, for the time being, we don't have any updates.
Yeah, there's no updates so far.
serge du preez
No.
tim pool
But, um...
libby emmons
Yeah, I've been seeing some stuff, but I haven't been able to verify anything.
serge du preez
That's the hard part is verifying.
tim pool
Well, I'm just, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, oh, okay.
Here we go.
Full details have been released.
We got a photo.
Let me pull this up real quick.
Ali London has the information.
libby emmons
That was, I wasn't able to find that on the main website.
And when I went to... What he posted?
Yeah, did he post the same?
Did he post the main information and analysis center?
tim pool
Yeah, is that not real?
libby emmons
I can't tell because when I went to that website, what I found was information about how there was a database breach in the main information analysis center.
The last thing that I see on their site was from April.
tim pool
Okay.
libby emmons
Well, I'm not gonna... So I'm just not sure about that.
I've been trying to verify that for a little bit here, and I haven't been able to.
tim pool
So I'll hold off.
They argue that he may be mentally unstable or something, but I guess we'll hold off on that.
I guess we'll just wind it down there.
I hope everyone's paying attention and stays tuned to what's going on.
Stay safe if you're up in Maine.
Ron, thanks for hanging out.
It's been a blast.
ron coleman
It has really been a nice time.
Always is.
tim pool
Right on.
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