Oct. 24, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
02:09:04
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| In the middle of a press conference, Joe Biden cut it short saying he had to go to the situation | ||
| room to deal with something and that something is reportedly Iran striking numerous U.S. | ||
| military bases in Iraq and Syria. | ||
| We've got reporting now from Israel that Iran was involved in the attacks that we saw from Hamas. | ||
| The U.S. | ||
| is deploying the THAAD missile system into the region, and many journalists note that Hezbollah and Hamas do not have ballistic missiles. | ||
| The THAAD system is... I believe it's Missile Defense System. | ||
| It's for stopping and intercepting. | ||
| It's kind of like the Iron Dome. | ||
| So it looks like... | ||
| We're gearing up for war with Iran, call it World War 3, whatever, trending on Twitter, on X, World War 3. | ||
| We'll talk about this. | ||
| And a lot of stories in this area, it looks like we're gearing up for global war. | ||
| A lot of news reports coming out that China is preparing for the same thing, and it looks like whether anyone wants it to or not, and I assume there are a lot of people who want it to, This is where we're headed. | ||
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| Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Preston Parra. | ||
| Hey, nice to meet you. | ||
| Thanks for having me. | ||
| Yeah, who are you? | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| I like to consider myself like an America First Crusader for Christ. | ||
| I work with a number of campaigns and legislators throughout the country to kind of invoke and push forward the America First agenda. | ||
| I joined the Army right out of high school, finished that up, and now I'm just focused on, you know, doing what I can from social media and journalism and just working with some of these folks to really, you know, enact the America First agenda. | ||
| Right on! | ||
| Well thanks Frank, that should be fun. | ||
| We got Hannah-Claire Brimelow hanging out. | ||
| Hi, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow. | ||
| I'm a writer for TimCast.com. | ||
| It's the best news site alongside the Postmillennial, because Libby's here. | ||
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Hey! | |
| Thanks, Hannah-Claire. | ||
| I'm Libby Emmons. | ||
| I'm filling in for Ian again, which is awesome. | ||
| I'm the editor-in-chief of the Postmillennial and HumanEvents.com. | ||
| And I am Serge.com. | ||
| We miss you, Ian. | ||
| Come back. | ||
| Let's get started, Tim. | ||
| Here's the story from Sky News. | ||
| President Joe Biden cuts press conference short as White House confirms Iran actively facilitating some attacks on U.S. | ||
| military bases in Iraq and Syria. | ||
| I just love the language, how it's so like passive and confused. | ||
| Iran actively facilitating some attacks. | ||
| Okay, look, is Iran attacking the US or not? | ||
| I think the issue is they want to cede the information. | ||
| That's how it usually happens. | ||
| They want to gear us up for the moment when they announce troops are going to be deployed specifically to fight with Iran. | ||
| We've already seen members of Congress say they're drafting an authorization for use of military force against Iran. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| I have to go to the Situation Room with another issue. | ||
| I have to do it. | ||
| War 3. On Twitter, World War 3 is trending. Here's the clip. | ||
| I want to play this clip for you. It's quite simple. It's only a few seconds long, and when | ||
| Malcolm Flex has it, Biden cuts his speech short as the attacks are happening. Can't confirm if it's | ||
| casual or not. Here we go. We got sound right? I apologize. I have to go to the situation with | ||
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another issue. I have to do it. Thank you. | |
| Thank you. Thank you. So that's it. It's It's rather uneventful, other than to say, in the middle of a press conference, he announced he was going to have to go to the Situation Room, because we've got these. | ||
| This report, Malcolm Flex is tweeting, "...groups with ties to the Iranian militias claim they've attacked. | ||
| With rockets, three bases in northeast Syria, al-Omar, al-Tanf, and al-Shaddadi, could be a tell as far as where Iran and probably Iran-loyal militant states in the area stand." | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, I hope you're all ready for World War III. | ||
| And how are you doing? | ||
| I learned that if you have taken anti-depressant or anti-anxiety medication over the last 12 months or for a cumulative 36 months in the last couple of years, you can't be drafted. | ||
| So I think a lot of women are not going to be drafted as we head into World War III. | ||
| And Gen Z. Men, I hope you're ready. | ||
| Gen Z especially. | ||
| Big Pharma's going to save the day, right? | ||
| Well, it is our great hope and savior. | ||
| What would we do without Big Pharma? | ||
| That's really interesting because women don't get drafted anyway. | ||
| Women don't have to register for Selective Service. | ||
| No, they don't. | ||
| Only if you're a man who's dressed like a woman, then you have to register for Selective Service. | ||
| They haven't gotten around that loophole yet, which is kind of funny. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, because Biden came, there was a report last year that the Biden administration was saying that trans women do have to register for Selective Service. | ||
| So, all you Draft Dodgers that are buying skirts right now, don't worry, it's not going to work. | ||
| Yeah, just get on the SSRIs instead. | ||
| Well, it's funny because there was this poll that came out about the Israel-Palestine conflict, and I guess 18 to 24 overwhelmingly are in favor of Palestine and Hamas. | ||
| And I say and Hamas because I am not trying to say they're the same thing. | ||
| I'm actually drawing the distinction. | ||
| Many of these leftists are cheering on Hamas explicitly. | ||
| That's what I'm trying to point out. | ||
| You know, and it's because of that the U.S. | ||
| is getting its ever-so-desperate Cassius Belli with it for Iran. | ||
| The U.S. | ||
| military industrial complex, deep state, whatever, has wanted war with Iran the entire time I've been alive. | ||
| Alright? | ||
| And so, now, because of this fight, you know, Hamas, going into Israel, killing all these civilians, Israel's released footage. | ||
| It's horrifying footage, man. | ||
| Some of it's only been described. | ||
| Some of it, there is video they released. | ||
| I watched some of it. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| And now, this is the funny thing the U.S. | ||
| likes to do. | ||
| Hamas attacks Israel, and so all of a sudden they're like, you mean Iran? | ||
| We have to go to war with Iran? | ||
| Like, no, no, no, we're talking about Hamas. | ||
| You mean, so Iran? | ||
| We're gonna go, we're invading Iran? | ||
| Alright, let's send the troops to Iran. | ||
| It's like, oh, what? | ||
| Okay, I guess, but now they're basically saying that all of this is actually Iran. | ||
| Iran's the one funding it. | ||
| Iran's the one planning it. | ||
| It's like, okay, well, then fine. | ||
| I guess we're going to World War III. | ||
| Well, Iran was reported by the Wall Street Journal to have been in a meeting with Hamas and Hezbollah just the Monday before the attack, saying that it was reported that Iran greenlit the attack at that point, and then Iran denied it later. | ||
| But Iran has been backing Hamas for a very long time. | ||
| Iran has been backing Hamas since Like, Israel kicked out a bunch of terrorists and sent them to Lebanon, where they got trained by Hezbollah and the, what is it, the Iranian Guard? | ||
| What are they called? | ||
| I forget. | ||
| But the IGF? | ||
| The IGF, yeah. | ||
| The IGF. | ||
| And they were getting trained. | ||
| So Hamas got trained by Hezbollah and the IGF in Lebanon before they became Hamas in the late 80s. | ||
| So this would mean that Russia should be declaring war on the United States explicitly? | ||
| Um, perhaps. | ||
| Ukrainian forces are funded, armored, trained by U.S. | ||
| and E.U. | ||
| forces, and if the argument from the United States is that we have to go to war with Iran because they've trained Hamas, then Russia would need to declare war on the United States, right? | ||
| This argument is, you know, have your cake and eat it too. | ||
| Yeah, it's the U.S.' 's own version of it's okay when we do it. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| I mean, I think part of it is that we always knew there was very There's a slim chance that this wouldn't expand regionally, that other countries nearby would get involved. | ||
| And I think you're right with this headline. | ||
| They're trying to sort of preemptively set up the argument for why America needs to get involved in this war, which I just don't think is necessarily the best case scenario for anyone. | ||
| And I understand that we have allies or we have relationships, diplomatic, with Israel and everyone else in the region. | ||
| On the other hand, we create all of these problems and then we say, oh, well, don't worry, we'll come fix it. | ||
| Preston, did you do anything exciting when you were in the Army? | ||
| Uh, no. | ||
| No, I didn't. | ||
| Right when I joined, really, the COVID pandemic hit, and they enforced the COVID vaccine, and that's kind of why I'm out now. | ||
| Oh, wow! | ||
| Yeah, so, no, I didn't get to do much. | ||
| What was your, like, what was your role? | ||
| What was your job? | ||
| 88 Mike, I was actually going to do green to gold where I could enlist to become a JAG officer. | ||
| That's what the whole plan was until it got kind of sidestepped by the vaccine. | ||
| Oh wow. | ||
| Well, here we are. | ||
| I'm not, I wonder, that's actually a really interesting point you bring up because we're talking about the draft too, but how many good men and women in uniform left over the COVID vaccination and the bigger picture How depleted or how far behind are we in terms of recruitment goals? | ||
| Not just because of the vaccine, but because of wokeness and politics in general. | ||
| I guess the conspiracy theory is the reason the U.S. | ||
| is allowing all these people to cross the border into the country is that they're going to offer them up citizenship to be frontline infantry or something, which, you know, I don't know if that's effective, but I do kind of know anybody who's played any one of these strategy video games, like World of Warcraft or Starcraft or whatever, you just mass-produced the lowest quality fighter and just non-stop send them wave after wave after your enemies, you win. | ||
| So, like, You can have all the nukes, all the jets, all the satellites you want, but if your ground army is bigger, you win. | ||
| And, you know, your willingness to sacrifice them. | ||
| But in that capacity, the US has technology, but they don't have people. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| No, they don't. | ||
| And the thing about military recruitment goals is that we've been behind for a long time. | ||
| So there are people who left, like you're saying, because of the COVID vaccine. | ||
| There are now also people who will not enlist because of the COVID vaccine. | ||
| And so on top of the issues that we're already having with a population that is not qualified to be a part of the military, those who are willing to enlist and who will enlist, it's just this extremely small margin. | ||
| I don't like the idea that we would just be like, oh, well, you came here illegally, but To give you citizenship, we'll let you enlist in the army. | ||
| I think that's not a logical justification, but if you're about to say, things are very desperate, we need boots on the ground, you're sort of creating a worst case scenario and then delivering this solution that is imperfect in and of itself. | ||
| Well, that's kind of the strategy they use, like recruiters use, to bring people into the military. | ||
| I know my recruiters at least would, it's kind of like a running joke on TikTok too, where people will go to like Home Depot and pick up illegals to join the military and they'll offer them, you know, citizenship so they'll join. | ||
| But just in my personal experience, all the good folks, all the people who, you know, were meant to be in the military, there wasn't a lot of them left. | ||
| And I know that during my basic training in AIT, which is like advanced training for your job, We had people, the treatment of people and their standards was unbelievable. | ||
| Women were, you know, like we had some people in there that were like five foot two, couldn't carry the load for themselves. | ||
| We would go on ruck marches that were really 12 miles long and they would end up falling out and they would get put in a truck and get driven back and or they couldn't shoot what you were supposed to shoot what the standard was and they would pass them anyway. | ||
| Why would they pass anyway? | ||
| Because they have to fill these spots. | ||
| Are they just creating cannon fodder, basically? | ||
| The other thing that's happening is that recruitment, all of the numbers are actually off from what I know from people who are enlisted right now is that they are using, like, they are shifting data to pad their numbers because they are so far behind in recruitment goals. | ||
| I mean, it's not good, but once you get into the army they need to keep you there. | ||
| So, what I've heard from a lot of people, and this goes back well before the culture war stuff, That in basic training, the men, like the clothes they give you, what are the PTs, is that what they're called? | ||
| Filthy and dirty as you're like crawling through the mud. | ||
| You don't wash them, you take them off. | ||
| You wake up, you eat as fast as you can, you get back to it. | ||
| The women would cry, complain, sit down, refuse to walk any further because it hurts too much, and then be told, don't worry, it's fine. | ||
| Like you mentioned, get a truck to drive them the rest of the way. | ||
| They couldn't carry anything. | ||
| They were mandated to be able to get showers and clean clothes every day. | ||
| And the argument was medical. | ||
| Women have medical reasons where they're required to have clean clothes. | ||
| And so the men are being thrown into the muck and told, figure it out. | ||
| And the women are being given this hospital four-star treatment. | ||
| These are all reasons that I never would have joined the military. | ||
| I like showers and clean clothes. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| You get them. | ||
| Women get them. | ||
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Men don't. | |
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| They got complacent with the low standards of a lot of the girls, and they would literally walk the two-mile runs. | ||
| What I was told is that if they tell the women you can't have a shower, it's discrimination based on sex because women have special needs, and so they have to get showers. | ||
| Then they shouldn't be allowed to join the military. | ||
| And if they hold the women at the same standards as the men, well that's sexist because men and women are different, even though now the argument is that men and women aren't different. | ||
| If you look at the Bostock decision, it's sexual discrimination to not give the men showers, but to give the women showers. | ||
| That's discriminatory. | ||
| Everybody gets showers on the battlefield. | ||
| Come on, Tim. | ||
| Anything that doesn't benefit the left is discrimination until it benefits them, then it's balanced. | ||
| So like, if you say, they'll come out and they'll say, men and women are the same, therefore, you know, trans people should be in women's sports, everyone should be equal, and then you go, okay, military training, equality, that's not fair, men and women are different! | ||
| Women can't carry as much as men, so they get special treatments, like, wait, wait, wait, you just said men and women weren't different, now you're saying they're different. | ||
| So the issue is, the left simultaneously argues both positions. | ||
| This is why I often say there's no morality on the left. | ||
| There is none, yeah. | ||
| The left does not have a moral position, they have a give me power. | ||
| So, in the military, women don't run. | ||
| Not all of them, you know, some women do. | ||
| Most. | ||
| But, right. | ||
| You know, so, this is an interesting point about where we're currently at in recruitment goals. | ||
| It's probably worse than we realize. | ||
| The military is probably just a whole bunch of, like, 22-year-old women with two moms. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's in their advertising. | ||
| They'll throw a bonus at you, $20,000 to join, but their standards are ridiculous. | ||
| And I even had a girl in front of me on one march specifically, and she was crying because the load was too much for her to carry. | ||
| She was, again, like five foot two, so I tried to like lift her rucksack up with my hands the whole way there, but it's like you can't have that kind of like situation on the battlefield, you know? | ||
| And so I just think it's kind of sad that that's where we've gotten to as a country. | ||
| I've heard arguments afford that they need to revisit some of their standards, like this thing about anxiety medication, right? | ||
| Like, if you've taken anxiety medication during these parameters, you're disqualified from military service. | ||
| So it means that some people just don't report it or, you know, I've heard a lot of special forces people say, I just lied. | ||
| I lied my way through it because I wanted really badly to make it and I am qualified other than these sort of You know, rules they felt were arbitrary. | ||
| But in some cases, you know, the idea of being battle-ready is very important. | ||
| And I think we saw this with, you know, letting women in the military, the physical standard at which they are expected to meet has to be lowered because women are different biologically and physiologically than men. | ||
| And so ultimately, in pursuit of what we think is best at home, are we actually putting people in foreign fields in a battle-ready situation where the people around them can protect them? | ||
| I just don't think so. | ||
| Well, and also that shouldn't really be what's going on in a battlefield. | ||
| Everyone should be there to do their best and not need to be protected by their peers. | ||
| The other thing, though, is like... I think it's normal to have people looking out for each other when they're fighting. | ||
| Yeah, you look out for each other, but, like, you can't look out for someone who can't look out for you. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| You know, like, if the 5'2 woman who can't carry her own pack, like, how's she gonna look after Preston? | ||
| She's not! | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| So you're not allowed to have taken SSRIs and anxiety medication for a certain period of time, but you are allowed to be taking cross-sex hormones? | ||
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| No, they give you the cross-examination. | ||
| Oh, they give you those. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| That's the benefit of signing up. | ||
| That's like your rations, you know? | ||
| That's your rations. | ||
| Got it. | ||
| Let's jump to this from the New York Times. | ||
| US sends more missile defense systems to Middle East. | ||
| I love this headline because they don't want to actually give you the headline that explains | ||
| we're about to go to World War III. | ||
| The latest deployment is in response to growing threats from Iran and its allies in the region. | ||
| President Biden has warned Iran to not join the war against Hamas. | ||
| Why would Iran join a war against Hamas? | ||
| See, the New York Times phrases these things in very interesting ways. | ||
| So, they're sending a THAAD battery, which is, I don't know if they have what it stands for, it's something high-altitude aerial defense or something like this. | ||
| I forgot what the first one is. | ||
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| sending THAAD battery and additional Patriot battalions to have its most powerful weapons against missiles to the region. | ||
| In a statement Sunday, blah blah blah, they're gonna be sending a lot more, and we have this from Bloomberg. | ||
| U.S. | ||
| vows to hold Iran responsible for attacks on troops in Mideast. | ||
| Pentagon spokesman places blame even without a direct order. | ||
| U.S. | ||
| is moving more forces, weapons, and ships to the region. | ||
| So we already had 19,000. | ||
| We're moving up to 21,000 active personnel in the region. | ||
| I think six, uh, well, the Washington Post reported 4,000 Marines and sailors with 2,000 troops, I guess, more Marines. | ||
| So I don't know what, how many of those individuals are specifically for, uh, Ground combat mm-hmm says the US ramped up his rhetoric | ||
| toward Iran Saying would hold Tehran accountable for drone and rocket | ||
| attacks on US troops by its proxies in the Middle East Even as Washington tries to avert a riot wider regional war | ||
| they keep saying that does is Washington actually trying to avert anything | ||
| No, I don't think so You've got folks like Nikki Haley that are just, you know, they just want us to go to war. | ||
| They've got Raytheon in their closet. | ||
| And we shouldn't be involved at all. | ||
| You know, Biden shouldn't be making statements. | ||
| And really, any Republican who calls himself America First should not be advocating for any action whatsoever in the Middle East. | ||
| We have our own problems here. | ||
| We don't need to worry about abroad. | ||
| We've got veterans killing themselves. | ||
| I think it's 16 a day. | ||
| Young men killing themselves at astronomical rates, more than any other demographic. | ||
| In the country, we don't need to be over there. | ||
| And especially in a situation where you've got two sides of it, where both are committing atrocity. | ||
| And I think most people just want peace. | ||
| But even if you say you want peace, if you say you want to cease fire, folks like Ben Shapiro will say that you're a pro-terrorist. | ||
| And so it's really unfortunate. | ||
| And if you're going to be America first, you cannot be pro-involvement in the Middle East at all. | ||
| So THAAD is Terminal High Altitude Area Defense, formerly known as Theater High Altitude Area Defense. | ||
| So that's what it stands for. | ||
| I remember when I was in South Korea, they had a bunch of people protesting, saying no THAAD, and the argument was that the US was going to deploy the THAAD system to be able to respond to North Korean ballistic missile attacks. | ||
| But, as I mentioned in the earlier segment, many journalists are saying Hezbollah and Hamas don't have this, so the US is just gearing up for war with Iran. | ||
| I think a lot of these news stories... | ||
| A lot of them are intentionally, they're seeding, they're a little bit of spice in the news to be like, get you used to it. | ||
| War with Iran, war with Iran. | ||
| That way when something happens, because now we've got conversations about sleeper cells, Hamas sleeper cells in the United States. | ||
| The U.S. | ||
| is trying to connect Hamas to Iran as much as they can because of what just happened in Israel. | ||
| Now we've got reports, Kevin McCarthy, Ron DeSantis have been warning about this. | ||
| They're saying Hamas has sent sleeper cells to the southern border. | ||
| The next thing that happens is some kind of false flag or just an outright attack from Hamas. | ||
| And then they say, see, that was Iran. | ||
| Yeah, I think ultimately that is the direction. | ||
| I also think it's very difficult for the American people to keep up with all of the moving parts. | ||
| There are so many moving parts. | ||
| There are so many moving parts and they share a complicated intertwined regional history that we just are blind to in a lot of ways. | ||
| We don't really know it. | ||
| We don't really know that history. | ||
| Well, what's interesting though, and this is some research I was doing over the weekend actually and last week, the history that we know of Israel and the Middle East is given to us primarily and given to our students by textbooks. | ||
| And those textbooks were created, most of them, after 9-11 at this point. | ||
| And they were heavily influenced by like the Center for Islamic Education. | ||
| that talked to the publishers and the textbook companies and made sure to have | ||
| very positive views of Islam and very negative views of Judaism and Christianity. | ||
| So when you see all of these high school students staging walkouts of like, you know, saying like, | ||
| you know, free Palestine and like stand with Gaza and all of this stuff. | ||
| They have been taught that in their history classrooms. | ||
| That is what they have learned directly and they have learned that directly because that's, you know, that's what's in the textbooks. | ||
| These are textbooks that were adopted in California and because California is such a huge market for educational materials, Once it's in those textbooks, that's what's disseminated across the rest of the country. | ||
| It downplays jihad. | ||
| It downplays the concept of from the river to the sea, which is the eradication of Israel. | ||
| It downplays Sharia law as something that just means get closer to God. | ||
| It downplays the modesty laws and all of that stuff. | ||
| I did like a, I was reading in these textbooks, it even downplays the Islamic conquest. | ||
| And it says that Islam spread. | ||
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It doesn't say that Islam... I'm not saying it's spread by the sword. | |
| It doesn't say that it's spread by the sword. | ||
| No, it's spread like water. | ||
| It just naturally trickles through the soul. | ||
| And it also says that because it's part of Islam that you can't convert people on purpose, and so therefore it's peaceful. | ||
| And Islam lives in harmony with other religions without actually mentioning the horrifying wars, the like. | ||
| You know, all of that stuff. | ||
| And what the cultural implications are. | ||
| I mean, there's this story right now about this 16-year-old girl. | ||
| Yeah, we heard that today at an event. | ||
| She was beaten because she wasn't wearing her hijab correctly, I believe. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| She's in a vegetative state. | ||
| Dragged from a train? | ||
| Right. | ||
| She's in a vegetative state. | ||
| She, I assume, will not make it, which is extremely tragic. | ||
| But in America, we get to say, like, oh, it's just a different culture. | ||
| We don't know what it's like there. | ||
| It's gross. | ||
| We would not let this happen here, I hope. | ||
| But we do let it happen here. | ||
| It's worse. | ||
| I mean, we have, there's honor killings in the U.S. | ||
| Yeah, there are, but we don't talk about them. | ||
| Yes, but hold on. | ||
| While there are many stories like that, there are women being victimized and beaten in the streets, and men, as crime is running rampant. | ||
| We're now seeing like CVS, Rite Aid, Walgreens, and all these stores, 1,500 stores are closing over the rampant crime. | ||
| So, when we talk about, oh, it's so awful that someone didn't wear her job and she was beaten, you're absolutely right, it's horrible. | ||
| And then we have the story of the woman on the train in Philadelphia who was raped and everyone just watched it happen. | ||
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| Then you have the story of the guy in New York City who saw the dude threatening the lives of the people on the train and said, I gotta stop this guy with three, two other dudes, and then they tried to lock him up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're still trying to lock him up. | ||
| They're still trying to lock him up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we're like, we would never let it happen here. | ||
| And here's a guy who tried to save the lives of people on a train. | ||
| And one woman said that man saved our lives and the police are locking him up in jail. | ||
| So we got those problems. | ||
| I don't think it's that we don't like bad things happening here. | ||
| It's just the specific modesty laws don't exist here the same way, except when they're enforced culturally. | ||
| But we got it the other direction. | ||
| I know. | ||
| This is the problem. | ||
| I mean, it's like, We have the mirror image to the Iran problem. | ||
| Iran's problem is they're beating women for not wearing hijab. | ||
| They shouldn't be doing that. | ||
| And they kill this young woman. | ||
| There's protests. | ||
| And then United States, the inverse, where they're putting these lewd and lascivious books in schools. | ||
| And we're like, man, where's the middle ground? | ||
| Like, let women wear, you know, sexy clothes, but don't give kids these books with graphic material in them. | ||
| And it's weird because the same progressives that are saying, yes, put those books in school are the same ones chanting in favor The left tried arguing this a long time ago that Trump supporters had a lot in common with like Al Qaeda and like Muslim terrorists or whatever. | ||
| survive in this culture they're advocating for. | ||
| The left tried arguing this a long time ago, that Trump supporters had a lot in common | ||
| with Al-Qaeda and Muslim terrorists or whatever. | ||
| Like dude, if Hamas did come over here and it was just some regular Palestinian guy on | ||
| a street corner and he started expressing his opinions on LGBTQ stuff and wokeness. | ||
| A lot of conservatives would be like, I completely agree with those positions. | ||
| Then, of course, the guy would say something like, throw him off a roof or whatever, something horrifying, and the Trump supporters would be like, yo, bro, what's wrong with you? | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That's like way too far for us. | ||
| But so many of these left-wing activists are cheering for a group that, as you all mentioned, Yeah, I think a lot of them are definitely uneducated on, you know, what goes on in Palestine, but I do understand some of their gripes. | ||
| And I think that, you know, you talk about the textbook things. | ||
| I've heard reports of textbooks being infiltrated with Zionists, you know, certain angles. | ||
| And I'm Jewish and, you know, I don't want that. | ||
| I want my, you know, students in my country learning, you know, real truth and, you know, not, you know, that's tampered with by some special interest. | ||
| And so, and I think that's why a lot of Americans, especially Christian Americans, are kind of entranced with the fact that we must go to war. | ||
| We must go defend Israel. | ||
| And listen, I want there to be peace more than anyone, but I don't think we should get involved with a conflict at all that's foreign. | ||
| I think we should be focusing on our issues here, like the guy in the subway. | ||
| And I just think that Americans are so funny, at least Christian Americans, and especially those who call themselves conservatives, when they say, let's not go to Ukraine! | ||
| Quit sending my lunch money to Ukraine! | ||
| And then the second Israel gets attacked, they want to send the kitchen sink. | ||
| Well, Israel is a really long-standing ally. | ||
| And I get that. | ||
| I get that. | ||
| But when that long-standing ally is committing war crimes... Israel was attacked. | ||
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| They were attacked. | ||
| And that shouldn't have happened. | ||
| And I think that it's under questionable circumstances as well, because even Charlie Kirk pointed out that when it happened, there was a seven-hour stop order ordered by Netanyahu. | ||
| He didn't say that definitively, though. | ||
| Right, in which he was attacked right after, too, but... Charlie said, I wonder if someone gave a stand-on order, because how did they not know this? | ||
| Well, and Egypt warned him, apparently, too, but also... Yeah, but Egypt said something big might happen, which is not a warning of anything. | ||
| We don't know what the specific intelligence was. | ||
| And I also think... It is tough, because there is... You can draw benefit to Netanyahu specifically, and the stability of Israel, From the crisis, a unifying crisis. | ||
| We saw this with the Project for a New American Century back in like 2001 or whatever. | ||
| A new Pearl Harbor would rally the American people. | ||
| But I don't think that creates a circumstance in which the simple solution is Israel knew it was going to happen and let it happen. | ||
| Because the damage and devastation to Israel is 1,000 times greater than whatever they were experiencing. | ||
| Yeah, and I don't think it's a... I think it's definitely a corruption issue, and that was what Netanyahu was, like, under investigation for in the first place. | ||
| He was about to... He was under indictment, and he was about to face trial for it, and a war happens to happen right in his backyard, right when he needed it to, and I just think it's a little bit odd, and I think that when you have Mossad, which is one of the world's most advanced intelligence agencies, how did they not pick up that their most, you know, angered neighbor was not going to attack them? | ||
| I just don't buy it. | ||
| I don't buy it. | ||
| But I don't see any evidence to the contrary either. | ||
| And I think the issue with, the issue I take with it is, I can tell you, you know, because I was talking earlier about Cassandra Fairbanks, a bunch of conservatives are really angry, they're very pro-Israel, and I'm like, dude, this company and the work that I do is not predicated upon the history of Gaza and Israel. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so what ends up happening is you have these people who for some reason have a large portion of their identity rooted in which side is correct and which side is wrong. | ||
| And so they'll come out and they'll assert one side has, you know, it's funny because they're like, you know, it's | ||
| it's historically Palestine Therefore is you know, Israel's the occupying force and | ||
| then the other people are like it was Judea and it was like Jerusalem | ||
| The Holy Land, are you crazy? And I'm just like I got I can tell you it's not America and | ||
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Yeah, I'm not from there That's my thing! | |
| There's been violence and conflict over this region for a really long time, including in recent years prior to October 7th. | ||
| I'm not saying that Israel shouldn't be able to defend itself. | ||
| Of course it should. | ||
| On the other hand, similarly to the conflict that's been ongoing between Russia and Ukraine for a long time, is this in the American people's best interest to wade into a war which we have very little cultural understanding of and at the same time make worse. | ||
| Like Joe Biden's saying, yes Gaza, I will give you money. | ||
| Also Israel, I'll send some troops in. | ||
| We don't know what side we're going to be on and ultimately we're not going to make anyone happy. | ||
| We're only going to ask... I certainly hope we know what side we're going to be on. | ||
| I certainly hope we're going to be on the side of our allies. | ||
| Our allies are committing war crimes. | ||
| What war crimes are they committing? | ||
| Well, if you're seeing the reports of white phosphorus being... So you're taking Hamas's word for it? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| No, but I'm taking reports on the ground. | ||
| You know, I'm Jewish and I just don't want anyone... I don't want atrocity being conducted against anybody. | ||
| I don't want any more Israeli lives to be taken. | ||
| I don't want any more Palestinian lives to be taken, especially innocent children that we're seeing. | ||
| And so, many times, I'm saying this online, and people are saying, oh, so you're pro-Hamas, or, you know, you're pro-sympathizer for terrorists. | ||
| No, not at all! | ||
| But I don't want, I don't want any innocents to die, and I'm seeing white phosphorus being rained down, and 1 in 20 buildings in Gaza are leveled, and you're seeing more bombs being dropped on Gaza than were dropped in the entire first year in the Afghanistan war. | ||
| And so, I, and those are war crimes, okay? | ||
| Because when you have... What's a war crime, though? | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| Collective punishment, defined by the Geneva Convention, is to punish an entire group of people, innocent people, for the crimes of, especially this, a terror group. | ||
| It's the government, though. | ||
| Hamas was elected to lead the government. | ||
| Right, but there hasn't been a fair election in a decade. | ||
| But I think we pulled this up, too. | ||
| The recent surveys show that 51% of people in Gaza support Hamas. | ||
| And so, yeah, I'm not going to blame the civilians. | ||
| There's a lot of really awful videos that are coming out, but I'll tell you exactly where I'm at. | ||
| I don't know anything about the region, for the most part. | ||
| I mean, obviously, I do know a bit about the region, but I have no vested interest in the outcome in the region. | ||
| I am not here to be like, the history of Israel, or Israel this, Israel that, or Palestine this, Palestine that. | ||
| I can tell you that on October 7th, a horrifying terror attack occurred in which Hamas tore through the fences, went in and started massacring civilians. | ||
| Israel's released some of this footage. | ||
| We got a bunch of this footage. | ||
| And then what I end up hearing from people is, yeah, well, I bet Israel knew. | ||
| And I'm like, How did we shift from, we quite literally have video of civilians being gunned down in their car, and people burning down homes, and children being killed, and the response immediately is, yeah, but I bet Netanyahu knew about it, because he was doing it to benefit himself, and it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| We are so far from that conversation. | ||
| The conversation is right now, Israel was attacked, innocent civilians were killed, Max Blumenthal came on and said Hamas targeted the civilians because it's opportunistic for them, it's part of their doctrine to target civilians to use as bargaining chips against Israel and then after that is the beginning and opening premise I have people complaining about Israel and I'm like | ||
| Yeah, you know? | ||
| Yeah, Israel's probably doing a lot of bad stuff. | ||
| This is what happens when you declare war on someone. | ||
| Hamas declared war on Israel. | ||
| Israel is the powerhouse, with the fourth most powerful army, so they say, with support from Western powers, and Hamas decided to declare war. | ||
| Now, a lot of people then go, yeah, well, you know, it's an open-air prison and blah blah blah. | ||
| I'm like, you lost me already. | ||
| I am not Israel, I am not Palestine, I am the United States of America, I am an individual here, and I can't tell you about the history of the region. | ||
| I can tell you, if they did not tear down those fences, storm in and massacre a thousand plus civilians, there would not be bombings in Gaza. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Does not mean Israel should be indiscriminately targeting anybody. | ||
| But then the argument from the pro-Israel side is, we are not just trying to target, and we are not trying to take out civilians. | ||
| And then I can tell you this, after all the dust settles, Hamas and the left have lied about almost everything. | ||
| So when someone comes and says, Israel's engaged in war crimes, I go... | ||
| Well, from the beginning of the conflict, I've been saying nothing but I want peace. | ||
| I condemn Hamas. | ||
| it didn't happen and we were so busy, tricked into arguing over who did it, we | ||
| never stopped to ask ourselves did it even happen and the answer was it did | ||
| not. Well from the beginning of the conflict I've been saying nothing but I | ||
| want peace. I condemn Hamas, I even went as far as saying F Hamas on my Twitter | ||
| and but I but I think things still have to be pointed out. | ||
| Israel is a formalized government. | ||
| Palestine is not. | ||
| Nobody takes the Palestinian government serious. | ||
| So when bombs are being dropped on residential buildings in Gaza, you have to point that out. | ||
| And if you say that Hamas is using those to protect whatever they have there inside, Well, you know, Israel's very capable of going in with insurgent teams and getting out or killing whoever they need to. | ||
| The West supplies them with a ton of money and a ton of training with our armed forces, and so I think they're perfectly capable of going in. | ||
| I don't see a need for leveling an entire building. | ||
| And the problem is, I don't think you'd see the reaction that you're talking about if | ||
| you didn't have evangelical Christians on Twitter saying, Glass Gaza, make it a parking | ||
| lot. | ||
| Like this incendiary rhetoric that just has no care for human regard. | ||
| Because it's more about humanity than anything. | ||
| I could care less if it's Israeli or Palestinian. | ||
| It's about humanity. | ||
| And people are being killed at rates you've never seen before. | ||
| 2014, 88 Israelis died, and 2,329 Palestinians died. | ||
| No one was calling it, no one was calling, you know, what's going on over there in the Middle East, we should get involved. | ||
| I don't think comparing the total number of dead answers the question of what, how, or why. | ||
| And does not indicate justification or... I just don't like how the media covers it differently, because the first time you have an Israeli attack, then it's like, oh my gosh, the world's ending World War III, but Palestinians have been being killed for years, and you're having no coverage of it. | ||
| And that statistic I just gave you, that's one Israeli for every 27 Palestinians. | ||
| But that doesn't mean anything. | ||
| Well, it does to me, because for a decade, 20 times more Palestinians have been killed. | ||
| So when you say, Alright, but hold on. | ||
| Who are these Palestinians? | ||
| Innocents. | ||
| Civilians. | ||
| So this is the issue I take with it. | ||
| I am the United States. | ||
| I am not Israel or Palestine. | ||
| I know that Hamas just invaded, killed a whole bunch of civilians. | ||
| Israel responded. | ||
| Hamas lied about a hospital being leveled and 500 people dying. | ||
| Totally fabricated. | ||
| Hamas is wrong. | ||
| And so now the premise... | ||
| Any point you initiate, Israel's blown up buildings. | ||
| Lie. | ||
| Not interested. | ||
| Prove it. | ||
| I took Hamas at face value. | ||
| Boy, was that a mistake. | ||
| When they said it was an Israeli airstrike, we were actually arguing like, wow, could it have been an airstrike? | ||
| I mean, we don't even know. | ||
| I mean, oh, man. | ||
| And then it was... | ||
| A Hamas rocket likely misfired, and then the payload dropped into a parking lot, killing people. | ||
| Well, that's the thing, though. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| And maybe it was a parking lot. | ||
| We have no idea. | ||
| So look, look. | ||
| So then I hear, yeah, but what about white phosphorus? | ||
| Bro, I'm sorry, but the people marching through the street who are saying from the river to the sea, who lied about this hospital, get zero benefit of the doubt from me. | ||
| And that means the only word I have is Israel's, and I don't even trust them. | ||
| Well, all I can say is, we don't want collateral damage, we don't want war, we want civilian deaths, we want peace, we want the conflict to stop. | ||
| The argument then becomes, should Israel airstrike, or should they send in a ground strike force to start executing Hamas? | ||
| AOC effectively called for that. | ||
| Saying, we want precision and intelligence, so Israel should invade Gaza. | ||
| If they're going to defend themselves, they should not be bombing where there's a ton of civilian casualties. | ||
| They told everyone to leave, and Hamas told everyone to stay. | ||
| But I saw reports of people who were saying, my mom is bedridden because she's sick and she can't get up. | ||
| What are we supposed to do? | ||
| Some people have no form of getting anywhere, and they're just supposed to see on Hebrew television that they're supposed to get up and go somewhere. | ||
| I think that's unrealistic. | ||
| It's not just on television. | ||
| Well, where else is it? | ||
| I mean, they put stuff out. | ||
| Like, there's been a lot more of that. | ||
| They went to the UN. | ||
| They told the UN, like, get people evacuated from this area. | ||
| The UN spoke to, you know, representatives in Gaza. | ||
| They have diplomatic channels. | ||
| This was like a week ago. | ||
| And the UN was like, it would be very difficult to move a million people at once. | ||
| I mean, it's an incredibly difficult situation. | ||
| I think Hamas lies. | ||
| I think this is a lot of violence. | ||
| But if we're going to return to the premise of, does America help? | ||
| Because like we've talked about, if Joe Biden's going to give Whatever millions of dollars to the Palestinians, but we know ultimately that will probably end up in the hands of Hamas. | ||
| But then we're also saying, Israel, we're your ally. | ||
| We're not helping. | ||
| Did you hear what he said last week? | ||
| What Biden said last week when he gave that speech? | ||
| I think it was on Thursday. | ||
| I think it was Thursday. | ||
| And he said, you know, we're going to give a bunch of aid to Gaza. | ||
| And if Hamas doesn't steal it, we'll get more. | ||
| We did that here. | ||
| And it's like, what are you even talking about? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Like, obviously, they're going to take it. | ||
| They take all of it. | ||
| But also, like, He knows that and he's still trying to play both sides. | ||
| This is something that we're seeing. | ||
| I find that more infuriating. | ||
| I'm much happier to give money to our allies and not give money to our enemies. | ||
| I would rather give money to the Americans in America than to, you know, see where he did that. | ||
| I don't want to do that. | ||
| Both sides of a war that we are now. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| I don't like. | ||
| I don't like that American and British Western munitions are being used to kill innocent people. | ||
| I think the human loss and the toll that that is In any world, in any world where morality and ethics exist means if Israel's going to defend themselves, they send in insurgent teams, they kill who they need to kill, whoever caused whatever attacks took place. | ||
| That's what they do. | ||
| They don't risk it. | ||
| They don't risk it with announcements saying, leave Gaza, leave the place. | ||
| Where are they supposed to go? | ||
| To tent cities? | ||
| For them to bomb in Glasgow? | ||
| of their allies taken refugees from Gaza. | ||
| Well King Abdullah from Jordan said that he doesn't want to do it because he sees it as | ||
| kind of enabling Israel to take over Palestine. | ||
| That's such a great reason. | ||
| That's a great way to say that. | ||
| I thought we were going to open borders everywhere. | ||
| I thought that was the answer. | ||
| No, just here in America only. | ||
| Just here. | ||
| Just to destroy our country. | ||
| Oh, okay, so now you're an American settler. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| As I have now said several times, when your neighborhood is being rioted, you just leave | ||
| your front door unlocked and then go defend someone else's house. | ||
| That would make sense! | ||
| I'm just genuinely curious why people are so fervent, why there's so much fervor over Israel-Palestine. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I couldn't tell you. | ||
| As a Jew, I don't want to see my fellow Jew die, and I think it's sick. | ||
| I thought, after the Hamas attacks, all the carnage that was left, the pictures that you saw on Twitter, like I was telling you before the show, you're seeing nothing but graphic footage all around Twitter. | ||
| The carnage that was left behind by Hamas is despicable. | ||
| And the consequence for that should be they should be killed. | ||
| But it, again, should be just them that are killed, not innocent kids. | ||
| I suppose the challenge is, like, Israel's choices after being attacked are airstrikes on strategic targets, which results in a lot of collateral damage and dead civilians, and that's horrifying, or invasion. | ||
| I don't know, pick one. | ||
| Me, I'm kind of just like, I don't know. | ||
| I'm not Israel, and I'm not in this war, and the United States is partially, I suppose, tangentially involved in this war, and I think we shouldn't be because it's an unsolvable issue. | ||
| I just think if you've got... I just missed Trump on this. | ||
| Oh, I mean, sure. | ||
| But if you've got 51% of Gaza saying they support Hamas, And even in the United States, these people are chanting, from the river to the sea. | ||
| Peace is not an option. | ||
| I mean, peace is the preferred outcome, but it's not an option when you have one side saying, from the river to the sea. | ||
| Yeah, but the majority of those folks, at least I like to think, are not going to go out and actually plant a bomb. | ||
| I think that justifying any war on Gaza, because those folks are so critical against Israel, that doesn't justify killing them. | ||
| That's not it. | ||
| That's Hamas. | ||
| Using schools and hospitals to store weapons and to launch rockets and then attacking Israeli civilians because, as that Yale professor said, settlers aren't civilians. | ||
| So to the people, to 51% of people in Gaza, let's just say 51% supporting Hamas, anyone, anyone, some of those people were tourists, fair game, kill them all, that's what they're doing. | ||
| That's horrifying. | ||
| You're not going to get peace in Israel, with Israel and Palestine, if that is the view of a million people in the Gaza Strip. | ||
| Right, yeah. | ||
| So what is Israel's plan? | ||
| Let me ask you, what do you think would happen if the barrier fencing around Gaza was completely removed and Israel just said, anyone in Gaza can do whatever they want. | ||
| They can freely travel. | ||
| Well, I mean, that kind of exists now. | ||
| They're able to go back and forth for jobs. | ||
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| I'm saying, what would happen if the barrier was completely removed? | ||
| Security around the Gaza Strip was removed, and Israel said to all of the people, you can freely move about all of Israel. | ||
| What would happen? | ||
| I'm sure there would probably be conflict going both ways. | ||
| Both ways? | ||
| Yes, both ways, because I've seen Hamas and Palestinians... You think Israelis in Tel Aviv will march into Gaza with guns and start killing civilians? | ||
| I think violence will be conducted either way. | ||
| I think that I've seen IDF soldiers treating Palestinian kids very badly on the streets, and sometimes they brag about, you know, doing brutal things to them. | ||
| I think it would go both ways, regardless of the situation. | ||
| So if the fences were removed, Israelis would go into Gaza? | ||
| I'm not saying just Israelis, I said both ways. | ||
| I know, both ways. | ||
| That means, so, the implied is, Palestinian civilians will go into Israeli settlements and start killing people. | ||
| But you also think Israeli civilians will go into Gaza and start killing people? | ||
| I didn't say that. | ||
| I just think that the conflict would go both ways. | ||
| I don't think it would be good for anyone. | ||
| But what does that mean, both ways? | ||
| I think that, you know, terror or any act of violence would be carried out both ways by both parties involved. | ||
| But I don't know what that means. | ||
| Like, you think the people in the Gaza Strip, would they leave the Gaza Strip? | ||
| If the barrier is removed, and security is removed, and they say you can freely move about the country... I don't think a lot of them would. | ||
| They would just stay there. | ||
| I mean, I'm sure there would be some tension, for sure. | ||
| But I don't think a lot of them would leave the homes... You think the people in Gaza would just stay there? | ||
| So it's not an open-air prison? | ||
| Well, if you're saying that Palestinians now can't go to Israel, they can. | ||
| I mean, and I don't think a barrier makes much of a difference if you can get through to it to go to your job from 9 to 5. | ||
| So it's not an open-air prison, and the complaints of the Palestinians are just exaggerations? | ||
| Well, I think that the land conflict is a whole other topic. | ||
| I mean, what belongs to who, that's just a whole other can of worms I don't want to get into. | ||
| But I don't think a barrier there is what's stopping any specific thing. | ||
| I think people are able to go free and easy regardless. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So the issue, I suppose, is leftists are calling it an open-air prison, where people are trapped and stripped of resources. | ||
| Well, in a way they are, and that's another war crime you mentioned, because... So it's a war crime that they're trapped in there. | ||
| Well, it's a war crime what's happening now, where electricity, water, food, and aid is being cut off. | ||
| But they can just leave. | ||
| But that's a war crime. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| It's not if they can just leave, right? | ||
| That is an area where people live. | ||
| Innocent people live. | ||
| And so when you cut off electricity... Who's giving them electricity? | ||
| Well, Israel. | ||
| So they're obligated to give free electricity to people of Gaza? | ||
| Well, when they oversee certain supply routes, they're able to cut off food and aid. | ||
| No, but people can just leave Gaza, you said. | ||
| Right, they can, but they don't want to give up their land again. | ||
| They don't want to go to a tent city in some desert and then have the land that they had in Gaza be taken over as well. | ||
| I'm not sure I'm following. | ||
| So Israel is providing electricity to Gaza. | ||
| Under what obligation do the Israelis have to give a resource to the people of Gaza? | ||
| And how is it a war crime if they decide to stop supplying a resource? | ||
| It's a war crime because those routes, those electricity routes, those trading routes where they get their food, they get their water. | ||
| Go through Israel. | ||
| So when Israel, the Israeli government cuts it off, that's a war crime. | ||
| Why? | ||
| How's it a war crime? | ||
| Because you're disallowing innocent civilians from having drinking water, from having electricity. | ||
| So you're saying that it's actually, it's not Israel isn't producing the electricity, they're just going in between where Gaza would get from normally. | ||
| I know a lot of the supply routes are not just coming from Israel. | ||
| I don't think there's a lot of Israeli aid. | ||
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| Yeah, I think they're coming from... Rafah crossing? | ||
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Right. | |
| So, so... | ||
| Egypt is trying to get electricity to Gaza, but then Israel stopping it? | ||
| I think Egypt is trying to get aid and food and water and resources and medical resources to people and Israel stopping it. | ||
| How the electricity grid there works, I have no idea, but I know Israeli technology capability does not stop it being able to shut down a power grid. | ||
| I'm not sure I follow criticism of Israel in this line of thinking. | ||
| So if people can come and go as they please, but they don't want to live in a tent city so they would choose to live somewhere with electricity, it's a war crime? | ||
| Well, no, but you gotta look at it like, let's make it out like it's here. | ||
| If, you know, I live in Georgia. | ||
| If Alabama decided to, you know, attack Georgia and come in here and say, well, you gotta leave or you're not gonna have food or water or resources. | ||
| I don't want my land to be taken over so I'm gonna fight against those people in order to prevent my land from being taken over in order to get resources once again. | ||
| If your land's already been taken historically... | ||
| Yeah, but why have the Palestinians rejected a two-state solution going back into the 70s and even previously? | ||
| Again, when it comes to the land conflict, I think that they don't really see Israel having any claim over the land. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They don't want Israel to exist. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's not okay. | ||
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However, that doesn't justify a war crime to cut off resources. | |
| So what should Israel do when they have neighbors, not just in Gaza and the West Bank, not just the Palestinians that don't think they have a right to exist, but they had a longstanding conflict with Egypt. | ||
| They've had longstanding enemies in Lebanon. | ||
| They're the only nation in the entire region, right? | ||
| And they have enemies surrounding them. | ||
| So when you had Trump's administration come in with the Abraham Accords creating the bilateral agreements, that was starting to be effective. | ||
| We recently had Saudi Arabia and Israel almost normalizing relations. | ||
| You have Israel can't even play soccer in the Middle East League, they have to play in Europe because otherwise they would get killed, right? | ||
| And Hamas engaged in the attack they did to stop the Abraham Accords. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Negotiations. | ||
| And to stop Saudi Arabia and Israel from getting close because the Abraham Accords essentially left the Palestinians out of it. | ||
| Why were the Palestinians left out of it? | ||
| Because they have refused to come to a negotiating table At any point, with a consideration of a two-state solution. | ||
| So we've had Bill Clinton propose a two-state solution. | ||
| He had this idea that actually gave Palestinians a whole bunch of stuff that they wanted. | ||
| And who was it then? | ||
| It was Yassir Arafat. | ||
| And Arafat was like, nah, we're not going to do that. | ||
| You had Obama had a two-state solution. | ||
| And so finally Trump just ignored them. | ||
| And they don't like that either, and that's when they lashed out and killed 1,400 people, including a whole bunch of civilians' children. | ||
| And so now you're saying that there should be a ceasefire because Israel shouldn't be fighting against the people who are actively seeking their extermination. | ||
| There are Jews and Israeli Jews who believe that Palestine shouldn't exist and that they should have more of a land claim. | ||
| So to make this whole thing ideologically based, I think is the wrong route to go. | ||
| People are killing each other. | ||
| Innocent people are dying. | ||
| So everyone should want to cease fire. | ||
| We can come to the table as countries diplomatically after. | ||
| But like you said, the biggest issue right now is to focus on the civilians that are dying. | ||
| But they won't come to the table. | ||
| Before we came up here, the crew downstairs was watching a show called Golden Balls. | ||
| That was great. | ||
| It was great. | ||
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| Golden Balls. | ||
| You missed it, Hannah-Claire. | ||
| Sorry, I was working. | ||
| We were watching on the big screen. | ||
| We were watching Golden Balls on the big screen. | ||
| Golden Balls is a British game show that fills me with righteous indignation and fury. | ||
| But is it race-based because it's British? | ||
| So everybody gets some golden balls and then in like the first round, they're like, you show two of them and they have dollar values and the goal is to build a big jackpot and then two of them you don't see and you have to lie about what they're worth. | ||
| You claim that, oh, if you pick me, I have 10,000 pounds and whatever. | ||
| In the end, the way the game works, the reason why I bring it up, there are two balls in front of each person, two people left. | ||
| And one of them is steal the prize money and one of them is split the prize money. | ||
| If both players agree to split the prize money, they split the prize money. | ||
| If one player splits the prize money but the other steals it, the person who steals it gets it all. | ||
| If both players try to steal it, they get nothing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So you see two people look each other in the eyes and say, we're going to split the money. | ||
| We're going to split it. | ||
| I will take half the jackpot. | ||
| That's fine with me. | ||
| And they go, yes. | ||
| And then the game show host says, choose your ball, steal the money or split the money. | ||
| And then they shake hands and they're like, we're going to split it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And then they both open, steal! | ||
| They lied the whole time. | ||
| It's particularly brutal when one person says, I'm gonna split the money with you, and then it gets stolen from them. | ||
| And they go, I knew it. | ||
| And you know what you learn from that? | ||
| People, evil exists. | ||
| And then the people who choose to steal the money from the other person go, yes, yeah! | ||
| And so here's what I see. | ||
| I see these leftists marching through the street. | ||
| They lie every, every time. | ||
| Every time. | ||
| The Hamas hospital thing really pissed me off. | ||
| And then they go, they rip through the fences, massacre civilians, watch the videos, and then they go, please help us, please, they're shooting us! | ||
| And I'm just like, y'all started a fight and you're losing, and now I'm supposed to be mad at the person who's winning. | ||
| If a guy breaks into my house with a baton, and I've got a Remington 12 gauge, People are going to be like, don't leave him alone, you have a shotgun. | ||
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| Israel gets attacked and they go, but 75 years ago, 75 years ago, nothing. | ||
| I got no idea what you're talking about. | ||
| Okay, how about we stop fighting right now? | ||
| If the argument is civilians should stop dying, then Hamas is the problem. | ||
| And if the argument is we should have peace between Palestine and Israel, well, the problem is that Hamas exists. | ||
| And so long as there's someone who's going to steal the money from the other person and lie about it, there's not going to be a peace agreement. | ||
| Any other argument is pointless. | ||
| The people who are like, Israel's engaged in war crimes, blah blah blah, I'm like, dude, there's a war going on, and one side is lying about everything, and started the fight and is actively trying to massacre civilians, arguing that every civilian is a colonizer, and from the river to the sea, they're going to reclaim this land, I'm sorry, dude. | ||
| Peace agreements sound like a psychotic proposal. | ||
| There's a man standing before you at the front of your house saying, if you let me in your house, I will do unspeakable things to your children. | ||
| And then people are like, just let him in. | ||
| Just let him in and negotiate. | ||
| You're kicking him outside. | ||
| He's got no electricity outside. | ||
| You've cut him off from warmth and heating and air conditioning. | ||
| It's a war crime. | ||
| And I'm like, he's gonna come in here and he's gonna kill everybody. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| You're committing a war crime by not giving him stuff. | ||
| And I'm just like, dude. | ||
| I can't do this. | ||
| What if, hear me out, we had the leaders of Hamas, Palestine, Israel get together, go on Golden Balls, and see if this settles the conflict? | ||
| Maybe there is a way to just get out of this using British entertainment television. | ||
| Peace isn't out of the question when Trump was in office. | ||
| I think we can always get out of it using British entertainment television. | ||
| I really think it's an underrated geopolitical diplomatic resource. | ||
| ...cannot argue for peace after Hamas massacres a bunch of civilians, starting the conflict, and still, right now, despite everything going on, keeps telling everyone they will kill Israelis, no matter what. | ||
| Let's jump to this story. | ||
| We got this from the post-millennial. | ||
| Minneapolis City Council candidate joins crowd in chasing elderly man after blocking highway with anti-Israel mob. | ||
| I saw this tweet, Endino posted it. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| It is crazy. | ||
| This video. | ||
| Let me see if we can post some of it. | ||
| You have this massive crowd blockading an intersection. | ||
| These people in these cars, they got no idea what's going on. | ||
| They surround the vehicles. | ||
| They begin attacking the innocent elderly man who has no idea what's going on. | ||
| The elderly man inches forward and eventually is able to drive through and they chase him down after that and continue attacking his vehicle. | ||
| Dude, the people who are chanting, free Palestine, They're doing so many things. | ||
| They're in New York, chanting, what do we want? | ||
| We want it all. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| They said we want it all. | ||
| They said we want it all. | ||
| That was right on the corner of that, like, those videos. | ||
| That's where I used to live, that corner. | ||
| They're saying, remove the colonizers. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Despite the fact that these people, who are claiming to be Palestinian, are on what they consider stolen Native American land. | ||
| They are lying about everything. | ||
| I was tweeting about that because my ancestors were in Brooklyn for over 100 years and I'm like, are you serious? | ||
| I just think it's dangerous to make this a one-sided issue because there was a report, I think yesterday, a pro-Israel protester was just arrested in Shokie, Illinois after chasing protesters and pulling out his firearm and firing shots toward the crowd at a pro-Palestine rally. | ||
| So to make this situation and demonize one side, even though... | ||
| Like I said at the beginning of the show, Hamas is... I condemn them. | ||
| I hate Hamas. | ||
| I hate terrorists. | ||
| But to make this a one-sided issue in our country, domestically, it's not. | ||
| Because clearly we have this story here. | ||
| What? | ||
| It was a guy who did a bad thing? | ||
| The problem is, this is not just limited to just one guy. | ||
| This is an ideology that many people have. | ||
| Many people are just fundamentally against Palestinians, and Palestinians are against, you know, their oppressors, whatever they deem oppressing. | ||
| And so it just cannot be limited to one issue. | ||
| Israel is not innocent in all of this either. | ||
| There are corrupt powers that be in Israel. | ||
| And those people, I think, instigate conflict. | ||
| I think they provocate. | ||
| And I'm not saying this is on Israelis' hands or anything like that, but I'm saying that Israel's not innocent in all of this. | ||
| That's coming from a Jew. | ||
| I don't think Israel's innocent. | ||
| I just think that Hamas didn't have to choose to go in there and kill a bunch of people. | ||
| Well, Israel didn't have to choose to kill thousands and thousands of Palestinians over the course of the last decade, too. | ||
| Twenty times more than Israelis, but they did. | ||
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| I don't know. | ||
| I couldn't tell you. Well, there you go. So it's a little point more though. So any times more like what's the actual | ||
| number 20 times? | ||
| More it's one number if there's one person that's 20 people. | ||
| What's the number? | ||
| So here's here's here's the issue That's all and that's nebulous and immaterial to where I am | ||
| and what I'm what I'm talking about and I and it doesn't mean anything | ||
| Okay, if you said in 2014 during protective edge Hamas did acts and Israel did why we could have that | ||
| conversation But once again, when it comes to Protective Edge, it is Hamas attacks Israel because they believe they own it all. | ||
| It's all theirs. | ||
| They want it all. | ||
| And whatever reason overlaps with the American left, we even saw what was the current leader of Hamas saying that he's like George Floyd? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And they're the racist. | ||
| Yeah, that was from a couple years ago. | ||
| But yeah, a couple years ago. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So here's and they've been planning this attack for two years. | ||
| Here's the way I see it. | ||
| Imagine you're in a mall, and you hear gunshots going off. | ||
| You run into an area, and there are two guys with guns, and they're both pointing at each other. | ||
| We want them to stop. | ||
| However, one guy started shooting. | ||
| The other guy was trying to stop the shooter. | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| So, what's happening is there are a lot of people who are ignorant to what's going on, who will start... Tell me what happened. | ||
| And then the one guy says, you know, three years ago, this guy. | ||
| And the other guy goes, five years ago, this guy. | ||
| Well, six years ago, this guy. | ||
| Who started shooting right now in the mall? | ||
| Him. | ||
| And who are you? | ||
| I'm trying to stop him. | ||
| Okay, what happens if you stop the wrong guy? | ||
| The crazy guy starts shooting again and kills a bunch more civilians. | ||
| It is a challenge to figure out who is right and wrong in circumstances like this. | ||
| But the idea now... | ||
| That Hamas attacks Israel, and therefore, like, we're gonna have this historical debate is pointless to me. | ||
| We can have a debate about American financing for foreign governments and all that stuff, and I'm just like, this is a really good reason we shouldn't be involved in a foreign conflict. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Because this is what you get. | ||
| The problem is it's bleeding out all across the world, and for some reason, it escapes me, people are so ideologically Just impassioned by Israel. | ||
| It is the craziest thing in the world. | ||
| I despise it more than anything. | ||
| This fervor, this zealotry. | ||
| Don't care if you're for or against Israel. | ||
| If you've got a rational argument in favor of Israel defending itself, totally hear you. | ||
| If you've got a rational argument about 1947, was it 1967 or 68 or whatever? | ||
| Which one? | ||
| There was a 67 and that was the Six Day War and then in 73 was the Yom Kippur War. | ||
| And that's the Six Day War, and then in 73 was the Yom Kippur War. | ||
| I have almost never had, I would say 2% of the conversations that have ever arisen about | ||
| Israel have been like historically accurate calm conversations. | ||
| There is always some, like, look, dude, like you're saying, like, Israel's committing war crimes and doing all this stuff, and I'm just like, that doesn't mean anything. | ||
| It's completely meaningless. | ||
| Hamas committed war crimes. | ||
| Oh, Hamas committed war crimes, how could you be mad at Israel? | ||
| Like, it's just mud being thrown back and forth. | ||
| Yeah, but the problem is Israel's a formalized government and Palestine's not. | ||
| Why is that a problem? | ||
| Because Israel is an ally, and when those are American munitions being thrown over the borders and onto Palestinian innocent people, that implicates us in some of that guilt. | ||
| It's collateral damage. | ||
| It's bad. | ||
| I don't look at innocent children dying and call that collateral damage. | ||
| That's the definition. | ||
| Collateral damage is in military operation when civilians die. | ||
| I know, but I don't just shrug it off is what I'm saying. | ||
| We're not trying to shrug it off. | ||
| I'm saying that there needs to be peace. | ||
| Like she said, we should have everybody from every party come to the table now. | ||
| I think that was gonna happen. | ||
| But I just feel that it's so naive. | ||
| To look at what just happened and think the answer is as simple as a ceasefire or peace. | ||
| It's just never gonna happen. | ||
| The answer is obviously British Entertainment Television. | ||
| I'll say it once, I'll say it again. | ||
| Well, like you said, America should not be involved. | ||
| That's what we have to say first. | ||
| We have to put America first, and America shouldn't be in the Middle East, and America shouldn't be in Europe. | ||
| We shouldn't be fighting anyone's war for them, and we should be worrying about the problems here. | ||
| Like, again, I say our young men are killing themselves at rates we've never seen before. | ||
| Veterans. | ||
| And we have our politicians who are prioritizing every other issue above the moon. | ||
| But these people that are killing themselves here at home. | ||
| And I think peace is definitely achievable because when Donald Trump was in office, there was world peace. | ||
| There was no war going on. | ||
| I think people saw a weak point in Biden's presidency and they said, well, we're going to strike and we're going to create a conflict and we're going to instigate World War III. | ||
| I mean, even this video of Biden sort of muttering into the microphone, I have to go to the Situation Room. | ||
| This is not the representation of our country I would like. | ||
| And I think it is apparent to everyone that there are a lot of forces in the world that | ||
| are now testing the strength of American leadership, which I hate to say it as much as I love America. | ||
| The Joe Biden administration is not presenting a strong front to to the nations or to to | ||
| the international community. | ||
| So I you know, we saw Ukraine happen. | ||
| We're seeing things happen in the Middle East. | ||
| I will not be surprised. | ||
| I personally feel like we're counting down until an invasion of Taiwan. | ||
| It seems like just explosions happening all over the place. | ||
| And the question is, at what point do we say we have to put our own domestic priorities | ||
| before everything else, even when we have historic ties or relationships diplomatically? | ||
| I do agree with you Tim about what you said about we shouldn't be focusing on the sins of the father and the grandparent that shouldn't be the topic of today so I do agree with you on that. | ||
| It's impossible. | ||
| Yeah I agree. | ||
| I think the challenge for me is like When you learn about how evil really exists, and I wonder when it happens for the average person, and I wonder if so many people in the United States, especially like these people surrounding these vehicles, many of these leftists, | ||
| Perhaps they can't see the forests for the trees. | ||
| Perhaps, you know, they are the horde of evil. | ||
| And because they can't see it, or they're not victims of it, they can't understand. | ||
| The people here? | ||
| Like, so this video of these people in the mob, right? | ||
| They're evil people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But this is the banality of evil. | ||
| This is not malicious. | ||
| These people aren't individually deciding to take actions, but they're part of a horde, which is victimizing innocent people. | ||
| Sure, I agree. | ||
| They've not experienced the brunt force on the other side of this, so they don't truly get it. | ||
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| I wonder if there's a point in people's lives where they experience evil and then start to realize. | ||
| For me! | ||
| When I'm younger, I'm like, oh, good and evil are subjective. | ||
| Everyone thinks they're doing the right thing. | ||
| And then I got older and actually had some experience. | ||
| I'm like, oh, wow, evil people certainly exist. | ||
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| Pure evil. | ||
| No question. | ||
| I mean, this is a lot of them. | ||
| Not to like jump stories, but when you this off-duty pilot who theoretically tried to turn off the engine of a plane in air today, I mean, they're still investigating what happened there. | ||
| But what did happen there? | ||
| Well, we're going to get to this in a little bit. | ||
| I mean, I don't want to jump stories. | ||
| Oh, sorry. | ||
| I won't jump stories. | ||
| But I'm just saying, like, when you are trying to unpack something that's happened, and when you see any kind of incident from the outside, you have to ask yourself, is this person evil? | ||
| Did they just want to see the world burn? | ||
| Or, you know, a lot of times we hear it now where it's like, oh, there's a mental health issue. | ||
| Maybe they're having a psychotic break. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| We don't know what plays into someone else's motivations. | ||
| On the other hand, Consequences of their actions remain the same no matter what their motivation was. | ||
| Hamas is evil. | ||
| Israel is a spattering mix of government institutions, corrupt wealthy individuals, good civilians who are trying to live peacefully. | ||
| Palestine, Gaza specifically, seems to be 50-50 between Hamas and people who want to be left alone, which creates a very pressing challenge. | ||
| The issue I see here is you can't negotiate with evil. | ||
| No, no, no, I mean like you can try to negotiate with evil. | ||
| You can desperately beg evil for peace and then they'll agree with you and then turn around and put the knife in your back. | ||
| Right, like those people on Golden Balls. | ||
| No joke, that's why I brought it up. | ||
| It's a silly show, but I'm watching this and I'm just like... | ||
| Evil people will stare you in the eye and they will try to steal everything from you and they will cheer for themselves as they destroy you. | ||
| And I think this is one of the issues that, without acknowledging, if you can't acknowledge that some people just are evil, then you can't acknowledge that there are people who will not, no matter how hard you want them to, understand, relate to, or try to live by a moral code that you or your community share, right? | ||
| An evil person has no, uh, And the reason to feel bad about anything is because their motivations are completely contrary to yours if you're a good person. | ||
| And I think that's really hard to wrap your head around. | ||
| Like, can evil forces exist in the world and can you potentially change them? | ||
| And I just don't think that's true. | ||
| And this is, I'm not trying to comment geopolitically now, I'm just talking philosophically. | ||
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| Evil exists no matter what. | ||
| How, what you do to contain it and if someone can be converted from evil is a really serious question. | ||
| Well, that's why we have histories of moral philosophy. | ||
| But people, I think on average, I'm willing to bet most people don't experience abject evil. | ||
| And I think the more you're exposed to various ideologies, various... the more people you meet, it increases the likelihood you meet people who are truly evil. | ||
| There's a lot of them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I don't think it's the majority of humans, but there's a lot of them. | ||
| I have experienced things that I would just say like, you know, somewhat private, personal stuff. | ||
| I did not believe such evil could exist. | ||
| And I just don't understand how people could be so evil. | ||
| But oh, you better believe it. | ||
| We were swatted 15 times in the span of a year. | ||
| And we have very, very high confidence we know who it was. | ||
| The police won't do anything about it. | ||
| They don't care about you. | ||
| Multiple law enforcement agencies won't do anything about it. | ||
| We've reported it. | ||
| We've given them evidence. | ||
| They don't care. | ||
| The people who did it, who we assume we know did it, and the people who are aiding those who did it, we don't know 100% who did. | ||
| We do know who is aiding them, who is providing them with intel and allowing them to do it. | ||
| And I just could not believe that people I've known and trusted for decades would, for no reason, literally none, smile on their face every day, and then behind the scenes, laugh and smirk as they tried to burn everything down and kill people. | ||
| It's shocking when that happens, when you trust someone and then they just turn on you and try to destroy your life. | ||
| But just to ask people to understand this. | ||
| Imagine someone you've known literally your whole life. | ||
| They've been to your house for dinner dozens, hundreds of times. | ||
| You've gone to theme parks and you vacationed with them and their family. | ||
| And then one day you find out they were pouring Drano in your cereal trying to kill you. | ||
| You just be like... | ||
| But why? | ||
| It's hard to get over something like that. | ||
| And they're laughing when you find out, laughing, saying, I almost got it, oh man. | ||
| And you're like, evil people exist? | ||
| Do you know that story about one of the most infamous female poisoners? | ||
| I'll look up her name in a second. | ||
| But she was based in Alabama, I believe, and she just poisoned, she had five daughters, poisoned them all, poisoned her husband, poisoned the next guy. | ||
| She only got caught because She married this, like, young guy and he was at a VA hospital and when she would glee for a while, for like a couple weeks, he would get better and then she would be there and he would get worse. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it got caught. | ||
| And when they asked her, like, why would you do this, especially to your own children, to your mother, like, it was a crazy amount. | ||
| This went on for, like, I think several decades. | ||
| She just said, I don't know. | ||
| There's something wrong with me. | ||
| I don't know why I did it. | ||
| She had no explanation for her actions that she did several different ways over the course of several decades. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| How do you justify that? | ||
| How do you explain something like that? | ||
| When you look at, like, you know, we're showing this video of this leftist attacking this vehicle. | ||
| These people are cheering and dancing as they attack innocent people. | ||
| We saw this at the George Floyd riots. | ||
| It is mindless evil. | ||
| How do you negotiate for peace with people who are laughing at causing suffering? | ||
| You have to show them Christ. | ||
| That's the only way. | ||
| I mean, anyone who thinks they're going to find a peaceful lifestyle and have a great eternity after and not have Christ at the center of their life here on earth are just stupid. | ||
| And I think you're going to see evil play out all over the world until people realize that and put Christ first. | ||
| But I will tell you, again, this whole conflict goes back to putting America first. | ||
| We need to stay out of it. | ||
| We don't need to get involved in another years-long war. | ||
| Evil exists. | ||
| I'll tell you one thing. | ||
| Being a young guy on the political scene, I lived in D.C. | ||
| for four years, or four months, sorry, and I can tell you, I've never seen evil like I have in D.C. | ||
| Oh, man! | ||
| Coming across folks... It's the hellmouth! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Coming across older men saying things to me and attempting to blackmail and extort me for things that they wanted in exchange, I'm telling you unthinkable things. | ||
| And I couldn't thank anyone else for my protection other than Christ. | ||
| If it wasn't for Him and me to be able to pray and rely on Him, I wouldn't have made it through living there for only four months. | ||
| So I can't imagine the folks that are entrenched in that mess every day. | ||
| DC concentrates a lot of evil. | ||
| And one Myers-Briggs personality type. | ||
| It's like INTJ. | ||
| It's whatever Hillary Clinton is. | ||
| There's a huge proportion of them in D.C. | ||
| And also that personality type doesn't like to share space with the same personality type. | ||
| So, sorry D.C. | ||
| You're meant to split apart. | ||
| I don't know, I feel bad for like, there's like the dude and his wife on a farm and they're just like, they got a handful of cows and pigs and sheeps and goats and they're like, we got enough for our family and our friends, just leave us alone. | ||
| And then you've got people who are just laughing and smiling, hoping to burn it down for no reason. | ||
| Well, included in those people trying to laugh and burn it down for no reason is the Biden administration. | ||
| You remember the agriculture secretary intentionally started giving out loans specifically to minority groups, like farmer minority, farmers who were from a minority group. | ||
| And it turned out that that was illegal. | ||
| So some farmers took him to court over that. | ||
| And the judge was like, you can't fix previous racism with new racism. | ||
| That's not how it works. | ||
| That's not effective. | ||
| And so they knocked that thing out. | ||
| But then Biden was mad about it. | ||
| And it was like, oh, based on your skin color, you should get more money first. | ||
| It was total trash. | ||
| Yeah, I do think Joe Biden is racist. | ||
| You're right, Libby. | ||
| I think Joe Biden is racist as well. | ||
| I think he's, yeah. | ||
| He would want his kids to go to those jungle schools or whatever the hell he was talking about. | ||
| With corn pop. | ||
| Yeah, with corn pop. | ||
| Feel his hair shine in the... Oh, that is so disgusting. | ||
| That's the most disgusting thing. | ||
| I hadn't seen the whole thing about that until recently. | ||
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| What kind of pervert? | ||
| What kind of horrible pervert? | ||
| The female poisoner I was referencing before was Ronnabel Martin, I believe. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Lots of people down and only I think her fourth husband survived. | ||
| We're going to jump to this story from MSN.com, rehosted from Daily Express. | ||
| Vladimir Putin suffers cardiac arrest, sparking massive alarm in Kremlin inner circle. | ||
| And a shout out to Timothy Whitaker in the super chat who asked, I had not seen this story. | ||
| It's from 16 hours ago. | ||
| Totally missed this one. | ||
| But, uh, I did just check it real quick, and there are a ton of outlets that are covering this, saying, Vladimir Putin is alleged to have suffered a cardiac arrest in his private Moscow apartment on Sunday evening. | ||
| A telegram channel believed to be run by a former Kremlin insider reported that incident, saying the Russian leader was found by guards on the floor of the bedroom, lying on the floor, rolling his eyes. | ||
| Doctors were reportedly called in immediately, and they later diagnosed the 71-year-old having suffered a cardiac arrest. | ||
| It's different from a heart attack. | ||
| Cardiac arrest is when your heart stops. | ||
| Something like this was reported about Putin a couple months ago, wasn't it? | ||
| He's been having a lot of medical issues. | ||
| That's horrible to hear. | ||
| Well, I mean, the scary thing is, what happens to Russia without Putin? | ||
| He's not a good dude! | ||
| Well, you know what, they might just start fighting among themselves, and then lose all interest in Ukraine, and then we could just be like, okay, see ya! | ||
| Yeah, this might prevent World War III. | ||
| That would be helpful. | ||
| It's kind of a horrifying thing to think, like, if this man dies, World War III is averted. | ||
| Well, yeah, then Russian Civil War in 3 or 4. | ||
| They do that a lot. | ||
| Yeah, the thing is, whoever takes over for Russia, and we would think they might fight amongst themselves, but we don't actually know if there's not a clear successor to his throne. | ||
| Could be even worse. | ||
| It's a proxy war. | ||
| They have Prigozhin out of the way. | ||
| Remember the... | ||
| So he's out of the way, and so a bunch of, like, because he would be much tougher on Ukraine than... But the next guy might be, too. | ||
| Right, I agree. | ||
| But didn't they get rid of most of those guys in that plane crash? | ||
| How do you know, though? | ||
| I don't know anything! | ||
| I don't know anything, which is why we didn't cover this story at Postmillennial. | ||
| I just couldn't tell. | ||
| Yeah, it's hard. | ||
| Uh, and also when you see stuff like this, it's hard for me not to be like, when is the Kremlin statement saying, like, somebody slipped employees in his company? | ||
| Who even knows? | ||
| But yeah, I was interested in this story too, and I couldn't track down, like, I find it very difficult to cover overseas stuff because I really, I really only know just the one language. | ||
| Well, especially with China and Russia, I think if anything, I was actually was concerned about this as well, if there's power vacuum, this is before I even knew that he had this heart attack, I talked with a friend of mine, If there is a power vacuum in Russia, what's to say that China isn't going to go, you know, knocking on Russia's door? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm just, you know, it's just a whole other thing I'm throwing out there, but there's definitely animosity between them. | ||
| Totally random, crazy thought that you probably start thinking about when you get older. | ||
| It's like, you could be taking a shower in the morning and like, let's say your wife or your husband or whatever is like, all right, I'm going to go, you know, walk the dog or whatever. | ||
| And then you slip and hit your head and you're dead. | ||
| That's why you should get married, because they'll come back after they walk the dog and be like, the shower is still running and they'll check on you. | ||
| And that's the thing. | ||
| Unless they hate you. | ||
| There are a lot of stories about elderly people who will just go missing. | ||
| And then a week later, people are just like, let's go check up. | ||
| They've been missing for a week. | ||
| And they're like, oh, they slept in the bathroom and died. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like you could just like Putin. | ||
| So the report is like his guards heard a thump and then ran up and found him. | ||
| I don't know if he actually had a heart attack, right? | ||
| They're saying unconfirmed reports, but a bunch of outlets are carrying this rumor. | ||
| And just imagine, like, for the average person who has a heart attack, there is no guard waiting downstairs to hear the thump. | ||
| That's why they invented the button thing. | ||
| Although if you have a heart attack and you're unconscious, you can't press your life alert button. | ||
| Although there's, I think, one that, like, if you fall hard enough, it'll... Right, there's, like, there's, like, necklaces and stuff. | ||
| Oh, the iPhone does that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| What is it like if you get into a car accident, it instantly calls 911 or whatever? | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That means it knows you got into a car accident. | ||
| Technology's so crazy. | ||
| Well, there's one story where a dude dropped the phone and the phone thought it was a car accident, so it called the police and they found it or something. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Like fell off his bike or something like that. | ||
| I remember it was just a couple years ago. | ||
| My mom said, honey, I'm suddenly afraid of falling down. | ||
| That must be a crazy feeling. | ||
| And she's in her mid-70s. | ||
| She's extremely active. | ||
| She just got back from a month traveling around. | ||
| Italy, right? | ||
| Italy and Ireland and wherever she was. | ||
| She's just living her best ex-pat life. | ||
| Yeah, she just does whatever she wants. | ||
| But she's still a little bit afraid of falling down. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I just kind of hope that when I'm old I'm like fat and so when I fall down it doesn't- There's some cushioning? | ||
| Nothing gets broken. | ||
| That is the argument for obesity right now. | ||
| Although your bones get brittle, you can't walk around, you get the veins, you have a heart issue. | ||
| Oh, that seems bad too. | ||
| The diabetes, you know. | ||
| No, the good news is if you're fat you won't get old. | ||
| Oh, if you're fat, you won't get old! | ||
| So that's a win? | ||
| Wow, that's how you live! | ||
| You stay young forever! | ||
| Live fat, die young, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| I'll just stop working out altogether. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| I'm also equally concerned that putting on a heart attack could lead to World War III. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I think. | ||
| Really, what's the alternate scenario? | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| That without Putin stabilizing the region, it results in power struggles, and then it leads to conflict outside of Russia, which drags other people in. | ||
| Putin may be a stabilizing force, stopping certain elements of the Russian military from engaging in certain actions. | ||
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| Yeah, look at Gaddafi after he went into Libya. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| He collapsed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I mean, worse than that, let's say like, Putin's heart attack and dies, then a military leader says, I'm the next in command, so I'm gonna do this thing, fighting erupts inside Russia, but then this guy says, send in, nuke, you know, Kiev or whatever. | ||
| Something crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, Putin's been a tough force for Russia for a long time, and I don't think that this war is just a simple land dispute. | ||
| I think it's definitely a proxy war to test the endurance of Russia, you know, kind of caused by American influence. | ||
| But yeah, I would rather Putin not die. | ||
| I think he's protected a lot of the Christian community in Russia, and you've seen Zelensky shut down Orthodox churches in Ukraine. | ||
| And I'm not saying They were Russian Orthodox, right? | ||
| The Russian Orthodox churches? | ||
| Right, yeah. | ||
| Interesting, yeah. | ||
| And so, I don't know, I do think it would bring in World War III if he died. | ||
| Yeah, I mean... I mean, the question at this point is, there are so many different scenarios to get us into World War III. | ||
| Are there any scenarios to keep us out, to keep it from happening? | ||
| Put America first, stay away from everyone else. | ||
| But that would still drag us in. | ||
| Multiple arguments have been made for why that would result in a world war. | ||
| Yeah, the first two other world wars started when America stayed out. | ||
| So I don't know if that'll be anything. | ||
| Ben Shapiro's argument is that if Iran or other countries stage a ground invasion of | ||
| Israel or begin airstrikes, Israel will respond with nuclear weapons, which will create regional | ||
| conflict which bleeds out into hemisphere, whatever. | ||
| I don't think it'll come to that point unless Israel provokes it. | ||
| but to get involved. Well Mark Levin was on Fox News the other day and he was | ||
| just going like eviscerating the host saying well Israel's surrounded and they | ||
| may have to resort to you know nuclear weapons just infuriated and I don't | ||
| think it'll come to that point I don't think it'll come to that point unless | ||
| Israel provokes it I just don't see that happening but what I will say is even if | ||
| it does you know bleed out into the international community I still think | ||
| America should stay out of it. | ||
| I think we're a strong enough entity to keep to ourselves. | ||
| What about NATO? | ||
| I think we should pull out of NATO. | ||
| You don't think we should defend our allies? | ||
| I think we should pull out of NATO. | ||
| So we should have no friends at all in the world? | ||
| I think our friends should be ourselves and we should put America first because we haven't done that in decades. | ||
| We're going to be like that girl in New York who marries herself. | ||
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I'm an isolationist. | |
| She's so happy! | ||
| She has no children, she has no man, she has a very nice dress, and she is happy. | ||
| That girl probably locks her apartment door, which is a thing I think America should do. | ||
| I think we should completely talk about the border. | ||
| And when she falls down in the shower, There is nobody there to help her. | ||
| I mean, we have a bunch of states that are the size of European countries. | ||
| I can't say what our interventionist strategy should be. | ||
| I generally feel like before we delve in further to any international skirmish, we should have a stronger border policy and then we can talk about it. | ||
| It's hard to have these conversations knowing that we are like, Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You're bad and we want to support you and also come across our border anytime. | ||
| No questions asked. | ||
| Also, maybe from Canada if you fly there and hop up. | ||
| Like, this is not good. | ||
| We need a strong national defense. | ||
| Trump says it. | ||
| This is coming straight from Trump's mouth. | ||
| We have to put America first. | ||
| That's not a controversial thing to say. | ||
| We've got so many problems that are crippling us and leaving us basically paralyzed in the water. | ||
| And our kids are killing themselves because they have no purpose, they're gender dysphoric, and we're focusing on a bunch of regional skirmishes thousands of miles halfway around the world. | ||
| Let's focus on putting America first. | ||
| Why is that so controversial? | ||
| I agree, but being isolationist and saying we're going to totally isolate ourselves is also kind of a death knell, because we don't have enough manufacturing to keep this country going. | ||
| We have so many things that are also needed. | ||
| Our resources are not in the same level as other countries. | ||
| We have natural gas and we have oil we should be drilling. | ||
| I'm sure you agree with that as well. | ||
| But I still think that like, okay, if you want to do that, we'll give ourselves like a 20 year timeline. | ||
| Because we can't just do that tomorrow or we're screwed. | ||
| Yeah, well, I think like you said, we should be an autonomous country. | ||
| Maybe we should build a time machine and go back and put the factories back in America. | ||
| I mean, there's a lot of stuff we should have done. | ||
| We've been on a bad path for a long time. | ||
| I don't think that we should give up and say like, well, we've already been engaged, we don't have these things like that. | ||
| But I acknowledge, I think you're totally right. | ||
| We aren't necessarily in a position to say, well, we're just going to do absolutely nothing. | ||
| I do think that before everything else we need to think about, especially if it's an international war and we know that the Biden administration is leaked. | ||
| The thing is, Americans are not used to conflict being fought on American soil. | ||
| So I think it's really important that we secure the border, right? | ||
| Oh, it's been 7 million people since the Biden administration took office, and in 2020, it was less than half a million. | ||
| Yes, and the majority of them are fighting AIDS men. | ||
| It's 480,000, no, 400, yeah, 480,000 in 2020, I'm pretty sure, and it's been 7 million since 2021. | ||
| So good. | ||
| I'm glad that we're entering international skirmishes. | ||
| This is a great idea. | ||
| Well they're trying to displace the nation's image bearers and I think that's, you've seen that just the way that they demonize white people, white Christians especially, white Christian men moreover especially. | ||
| They're trying to do that and they're, like you said, they're sending seven million people in. | ||
| That's a huge fraction of our population and I don't think we should stand idly by. | ||
| We need a And they're not done. | ||
| They're flying people in from Venezuela. | ||
| They're like, oh, these Venezuelans, they should get all of the things, and New Yorkers should get nothing. | ||
| We'll just send everybody to the Roosevelt Hotel. | ||
| We've got to reinforce our border. | ||
| We've got to have a stronger national defense. | ||
| Otherwise, we're going to be the laughing stock in the next 10 years. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Next 10 years? | ||
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| I think we're already there. | ||
| It's like right now. | ||
| Yeah, billions. | ||
| It's why I am so interested to see an argument from the Democrats to keep Joe Biden in office, right? | ||
| If we are on the brink of all these things and we have so many issues domestically and then we have our slurring President Joe Biden. | ||
| What do you call it with the dementia shuffle? | ||
| Yeah, the Dementia Shuffle is a real term. | ||
| I mean, this is not the guy that I want at the forefront, and I actually think Democrats, they didn't like him before. | ||
| How could you be like, yes, I feel confident and safe when looking at President Joe Biden? | ||
| There's no way! | ||
| There's a video going around of a guy, presumably in the army, wearing his, like, uniform, and he's singing some song, and then it flashes, and he's a drag queen. | ||
| And it's like, there's more than one of this, but I'm like, that should be immediate dishonorable discharge. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| I think so too. | ||
| I've seen that video. | ||
| I don't like it. | ||
| There's a couple of them, but there's one right now. | ||
| And the reason I say this, or I would even accept administrative discharge, because our enemies look at our culture, our country, to determine whether or not they think we are strong or weak. | ||
| And if we appear weak, we will be attacked even if we are strong. | ||
| There's not much weaker than a fella in a dress. | ||
| They let a master sergeant wear bondage gear in his army photo. | ||
| It's not about any and it is about looking looking weak internationally and putting. | ||
| Putting our other men and women at risk. | ||
| The message we should be giving off is that, like that Russian military commercial where the guy's like shaved head, jumps out of a plane, lands in the ice, he's got a gun. | ||
| We want to terrify. | ||
| That's why people wear skull masks. | ||
| They want to be terrifying and invoke death. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because then you minimize the likelihood of conflict, the more you intimidate and people, but if what we are seeing Yeah. | ||
| in our culture in the army, in the armed forces, is a bunch of effeminate men twerking | ||
| and trying to be like women, then our enemies are gonna be like, | ||
| if there ever was a time to destroy America, it's now. | ||
| Yeah. Yeah. | ||
| If there's ever a time to compare America to the great Satan, it's right now. | ||
| Just weakness. Yeah. | ||
| You can call it whatever you want, say it or otherwise. | ||
| Morality's not the question. | ||
| The question is, is this guy a, you know, you remember the mountain from Game of Thrones? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Is it the mountain? | ||
| He just had a second baby, just so everyone knows. | ||
| This guy, how tall was he, like 6'7"? | ||
| 100 feet tall. | ||
| 6'8", like he's 307'1"? | ||
| I don't know, I'll look it up. | ||
| But how much did he weigh? | ||
| Like 300-something pounds of muscle? | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It all stems from our nation's breakdown and really alienation from Christ and Christianity, because that's what our nation was supposed to have been rooted in. | ||
| And you had a bunch of people come in and tear everything down, and it's unfortunately eroded into our military. | ||
| It's Christian's fault. | ||
| Yeah, no, I agree with you 100%. | ||
| Passivists. | ||
| Christian, who was saying this? | ||
| It was Patrick by David. | ||
| He's 6'9", he's 400 pounds. | ||
| Four hundred! | ||
| Which seems crazy. | ||
| He did just have a second baby. | ||
| That's why he's on the wall. | ||
| Patrick, but David brought this up. | ||
| It's the tolerant Christians who kept allowing these evil people to keep doing more and more and more and just sat back and let it happen. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| It's like the whole like the adage of like the Republicans being the brakes on the Democrat Party, which is just the truth. | ||
| It's just Christian liberalism allowing people to do what they want and saying, oh, well, turn to the cheek, turn to the cheek, turn to the cheek. | ||
| If you do that too much, eventually, you know. | ||
| I love that, you know, Seamus, I think Seamus has mentioned it where it's like The left will say, but as a Christian, you should be doing this. | ||
| And then his response is, as someone who hates Christians, I'm not going to take your word on Christianity. | ||
| Yeah, true. | ||
| It's horrible. | ||
| They're trying to kill you guys. | ||
| Like, my dad's Colombian. | ||
| My dad immigrated here illegally. | ||
| And they're trying to kill you guys. | ||
| You guys built the best empire in history. | ||
| And it's a nation that thrived and did so well and was feared on the world stage. | ||
| And now it's become this laughing stock that gives billions out to anyone who provokes their neighbor into a war. | ||
| And they're trying to kill you guys for being white Christian men. | ||
| It's unreal. | ||
| And we've got to reinforce God back in our society, back in our schools. | ||
| We cannot have our textbooks permeated by any type of propaganda that's foreign. | ||
| We need Christ back in the schools. | ||
| And I'm saying that as a Messianic Jew. | ||
| American values. | ||
| And I think a lot of our day-to-day culture doesn't reinforce American values generally. | ||
| Like, we can talk about the history books, we can talk about Hollywood or whatever else, but I also think day-to-day people don't live lies that are reflective of American values. | ||
| There are some people who do, but I think, you know... | ||
| Being openly patriotic, being there for community, you know, doing things to serve those around you, protecting your family. | ||
| There are some enclaves of American culture that live that way, but a lot of predominant centers of American populations don't have that at the core, and that's sad. | ||
| I don't want to call out this company, so I'm asking, you know, everybody who's here just not to name the company, but we recently bought a bunch of products from one company, just as like, you know, on a whim, and this company, which produces a variety of meats and meat snacks, Writes their their mission of inclusivity and a diverse healthy snack and I'm just like What about dried meat is diverse and inclusive? | ||
| This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard And so I don't want to I don't want to again directly name the company because I'll let them do their thing We won't buy from them ever again, you know, whatever no beef. | ||
| It's just it's become a it's a cult Yeah, where it's like we're we're making a series of neckties, but our neckties are inclusive how? | ||
| Anybody can wear them. | ||
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| I didn't know that literally anyone could buy this tie and put it on. | ||
| Thank you for saying it directly. | ||
| I've actually been thinking recently I need a necktie. | ||
| Oh, there you go. | ||
| Our inclusive neckties are available. | ||
| I better buy the inclusive one so that I'm not called... They're diverse as well. | ||
| Yeah, I need a diverse, inclusive necktie. | ||
| Because white people, black people, Mexican people, and Asians, they can all wear them. | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| I'm worried about that. | ||
| We actually tested them to make sure. | ||
| Can women also wear these neckties? | ||
| I need a scientific study and a written certification from the company. | ||
| I just can't take your word for it. | ||
| Both of you are bigoted. | ||
| Let's make sure that they put it on the package. | ||
| These companies are writing like, our product is to ensure a diverse and inclusive meat snack. | ||
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| That starts to sound like right on the edge of cannibalism. | ||
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| What kind of meat are you talking about? | ||
| I really want to only know a specific. | ||
| I don't want diverse. | ||
| I want specifically one type of meat. | ||
| I want you to label it on the package. | ||
| How did that type of thinking introduce itself into our country? | ||
| Where did it come from? | ||
| Who introduced it? | ||
| Well, I think you don't know this. | ||
| The history of beef jerky is that only racist white men eat it. | ||
| And so we need to find a way to make it accessible to urban liberals. | ||
| Well, the left are, you know, default liberals is what Breitbart called them. | ||
| I believe that's what he called them. | ||
| Because they don't actually have, they don't seek out information, they just hear it and they adhere to it. | ||
| So, I want to do a game show. | ||
| And we should totally do this, not even kidding. | ||
| And it's political trivia, but the contestants are going to be like two people from the left and two people from the right. | ||
| Two self-identified liberals, two self-identified conservatives, and then we ask questions. | ||
| That'd be cool. | ||
| You know, I'm not saying I know exactly how it would turn out and who would tend to be right or whatever. | ||
| You know. | ||
| But I think the right would tend to have, because the right argues all the time about various political issues, what is described as the right in the culture war includes libertarians who are going to start quoting a whole bunch of like anarchist philosophers, like real ones, not the left weirdos. | ||
| And people on the left are going to be like, huh? | ||
| You get someone who's like a liberal activist and you put them up against a conservative activist and you ask about modern politics. | ||
| What was the name of the private military contractor who died in a plane crash who was deeply involved in the Ukraine war? | ||
| And what's going to happen is a conservative is going to say that right away, like, well, yeah, and the liberal is going to be like, I don't know what you're talking about. | ||
| What is the name of the prosecutor fired in Ukraine after Joe Biden flew to the country and threatened to withhold $1 billion? | ||
| Oh, I know the name. | ||
| Victor Shokin. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| I'm willing to bet you bring a liberal and conservative commentator and the liberal is going to be like, What? | ||
| What are we even talking about? | ||
| They're making TikToks. | ||
| Well, it's the new, it's the new liberals would not get any of this stuff. | ||
| My grandma was a liberal and she would have, she paid attention to everything. | ||
| And then you'd say like, what, you know, if we get specific on well regulated, referred to a type of armed individual that went by this name. | ||
| Militia? | ||
| Regulars. | ||
| Oh, regulars. | ||
| It's in the name! | ||
| I think this is a great game show. | ||
| I think we should start one. | ||
| I think so too. | ||
| I really want to play. | ||
| I also hijacked my pop culture crisis today and said that we should start a game show where we find Brett a wife and turn it into the dating game. | ||
| I got one for you. | ||
| So we're just, the whole company, we're just turning into a, we are the new game show network. | ||
| I got one for you. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I got one I think maybe, I'm not so sure anyone would be able to answer. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| On his famous ride, Paul Revere historically declared what? | ||
| The regular British are coming? | ||
| Trans men are real men. | ||
| Why would Paul Revere say the British are coming when they were all British? | ||
| And the country was split between loyalists and patriots. | ||
| I wonder why they changed that in the textbooks. | ||
| It was just a poem. | ||
| The British are coming. | ||
| It's like the cops showing up. | ||
| The Americans are here! | ||
| It's like, heh, just cops. | ||
| Hey, the regulars are coming, which were effectively like the law enforcement of the day. | ||
| The poem made it propaganda. | ||
| It was Longfellow. | ||
| The lead propagandist in American culture. | ||
| I'm just kidding. | ||
| It is commonly believed that he said the British are coming, but my readings of academia, and Serge got this too, that he said the regulars are coming. | ||
| It's apocryphal that he said. | ||
| Is apocryphal the right word? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| I think so, yeah. | ||
| Well, it was, you know, art. | ||
| It's also, like, for Americans, like, 200 years later, they're just like, well, he's meant the British, so, like, we'll just write it in. | ||
| There's so many cool stories in the American Revolution, it's crazy. | ||
| Those people were crusaders. | ||
| Those were crusaders. | ||
| Those were young men who were actually impassioned on being patriots for their country, and many of them believed in Christ, and many of them were willing to lay down their lives for the values that they saw. | ||
| Oh, dude, doing, like, a religion trivia one? | ||
| With, like, a liberal and a conservative? | ||
| Oh, wait, wait, as Ian the host. | ||
| Whenever I go up to Boston, which I'm going to be doing again for Thanksgiving. | ||
| That's a tradition? | ||
| It's our tradition. | ||
| Me and my brother and my son and this year my brother's girlfriend is coming. | ||
| We go out for dinner for Thanksgiving. | ||
| This is our third year of this tradition and we have the best time. | ||
| But anyway, on the way up I always stop at Lexington and Concord for the Shot Heard Around the World and to see where Nathaniel Hawthorne lived in the old manse. | ||
| And I love it. | ||
| I love, I mean, I love Hawthorne, but I love Lexington and Concord. | ||
| I love, like, just being there in this space. | ||
| And it's such a small area. | ||
| It's a little bridge. | ||
| This was my favorite thing about growing up in New England, which is that when you study American revolutionary history, which you do for every year until they have to make you study other things, you get the best field trips because everything is within driving distance. | ||
| And you can say, like, oh, this happened here. | ||
| And every small town has some kind of connection to it. | ||
| It's it's I mean I feel bad for the rest of you I know Texas teaches his own history but it was it was one of the best parts of where I grew up because the American Revolutionary War is such a present and real part of that that region of the country. | ||
| Well did you have this like because I grew up in the South Shore of Boston and most of the history we learned was Revolutionary War history. | ||
| And then when I moved to Philadelphia, like, all the history was about, you know, after the revolution, it was about the, like, the creating of the Constitution. | ||
| I feel like American regional history is such a cool thing. | ||
| Yeah, we don't appreciate American regionalism enough. | ||
| I mean, this is the thing that I think we lose Again, not that you should not be informed of what's going on in the world, but I love that Texas teaches its own history. | ||
| I know, you know, some students in West Virginia do some courses in West Virginia history. | ||
| There are all kinds of regional influences, like even if you talk about... And West Virginia has so much Civil War history. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| If you talk about, like, how Minneapolis-St. | ||
| Paul came to be, a lot of that is because of the Scandinavian immigration that happened there. | ||
| America has such an interesting regional history that, unfortunately, I feel like local governments, local school systems do not put enough of an emphasis on it. | ||
| I'm so sorry that, you know, it is sort of a crime against ourselves. | ||
| It's not going to necessarily solve peace in the Middle East, but it would be nice to remember our heritage and know about all of these things that made us who we are. | ||
| I mean, the massive protest that we saw in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, over the weekend, which is like, it went up Fifth Avenue. | ||
| Bay Ridge? | ||
| Bay Ridge, Brooklyn. | ||
| Isn't that a Jewish area? | ||
| Well, it's an immigrant neighborhood, and it's a very Arab neighborhood, and there's a lot of Jews in the neighborhood, and there's Jews all around it. | ||
| Flatbush, Borough Park. | ||
| That's where that famous bagel place is. | ||
| There's a lot of good bagel places in Bay Ridge. | ||
| Which one? | ||
| I don't want to shout them out because I don't... You don't like them? | ||
| No, because I don't want to throw a brick to their window. | ||
| Oh, that's fair. | ||
| But there's a lot of good bagel places in the neighborhood. | ||
| You can always get a good bagel. | ||
| Bay Ridge is this great neighborhood. | ||
| I moved there years and years ago. | ||
| And Bay Ridge has always been an immigrant neighborhood. | ||
| So there were Norwegians there. | ||
| There were Norwegians there because they were building the Verrazano Bridge. | ||
| That was primarily Norwegian. | ||
| There were Greeks that came in. | ||
| There were Italians that came in. | ||
| There were Chinese. | ||
| There's not any Indians, and you can tell because there's no good Indian food in the neighborhood at all. | ||
| But there were Central Americans, Mexicans, Arabs. | ||
| You lived there, right? | ||
| I lived there for a long time. | ||
| I don't live there now. | ||
| I moved. | ||
| But it was a great neighborhood, a ton of great food. | ||
| Lots of Jewish people, lots of Arab people, lots of Teslas. | ||
| It's like there's a lot of wealth in the neighborhood as well. | ||
| But I found it so surprising and I'd seen pro-Palestinian protests there in the neighborhood before. | ||
| But it was always much smaller. | ||
| And this was a huge massive protest and seeing the police blocking off streets. | ||
| And one of the streets that I saw police in videos blocking off was a street where one of my old friends lives and he's Israeli and his whole family lives there. | ||
| And I'm just like imagining him and his family and their kids like seeing this and they're Jewish. | ||
| And I'm just like seeing this happen. | ||
| And I was like, I don't think that I don't like that. | ||
| I don't like that they feel Like, their neighborhood is under siege, that there's helicopters going on. | ||
| And the thing about it being Bay Ridge is that this is just this classic old immigrant neighborhood. | ||
| And I feel like if the people in that neighborhood, if the schools were better at teaching Brooklyn history, if the schools were better at, you know, if the city was better appreciating itself, then those kids would all know, like, oh, this is not just an Arab neighborhood. | ||
| This is a classic immigrant neighborhood. | ||
| When we move on, there's going to be a different group of immigrants that's going to move in here. | ||
| And it's just, that's sort of how Bay Ridge goes. | ||
| Like, it belongs to nobody. | ||
| It belongs to everybody. | ||
| It's just a constant, like... Well, it's a New York neighborhood. | ||
| It belongs to New York. | ||
| It's a very New York neighborhood. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're going to go to Super Chats. | ||
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| It's gonna be fun. | ||
| We're gonna have y'all call in and talk to us. | ||
| But in the meantime, let's read your Super Chats. | ||
| We got Clint Torres. | ||
| He got the first place. | ||
| Good job, man. | ||
| Super Chat with Howdy People. | ||
| Howdy. | ||
| Howdy. | ||
| QuantumStrangeQuarks says, first, no. | ||
| Second. | ||
| Drizzalus says, first, nope. | ||
| Third. | ||
| PorkchopExpress says, you know, Uh, nope, nope, sorry. | ||
| I don't know if I do, actually. | ||
| Nope, nope, fourth, fourth. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Cold Deluxe Productions says, Hey Tim, you brought up again the new cars can be remotely controlled in your culture war segment again. | ||
| I just want to clarify that only applies to new vehicles with electric power steering, not hydraulic power steering. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Okay, thank you for the, for the correction. | ||
| Alan Choi says, Tim is not a simp. | ||
| The problem is that dating has to be a way to find a spouse. | ||
| Find a spouse is essentially replaced marriage, in which case you are correct. | ||
| So just to clarify, I did a segment earlier, there's a woman being interviewed, and the guy asks her, how much should a man spend on a first date for you? | ||
| And she goes, $200. | ||
| And he's like, why? | ||
| And then she explains it. | ||
| And I said, she's correct. | ||
| And then, you know, everybody starts having a huge debate over it. | ||
| But my position was basically just like, If you're arguing it's too much money, then your argument is, this woman has expensive tastes. | ||
| Not that she's wrong. | ||
| You're arguing, well, you know, I couldn't afford that. | ||
| So I think a lot of this shock comes from, I couldn't afford $200 going on a date with a woman. | ||
| But this woman's in like Miami, and she's like, surrounded by guys who have this kind of cash. | ||
| And so... | ||
| My point is not so much the dollar value, but that in a traditional dating sense, women expecting men to pay, and pay well, is the traditional gender role. | ||
| And arguing that women should either not expect the men to pay, to pay well, or to split, is the progressive argument. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So if I see like a woman getting all gussied up and putting on a ton of makeup and doing a lot of work and be like, I want a guy who's gonna pay, then I'm just like, I see nothing wrong with it. | ||
| I think my issue with it wasn't so much that the man should be paying because I do think that the man should pay for the date. | ||
| I think my issue with it was how direct she was instead of just being like, oh, that was so nice. | ||
| You took me out for dinner. | ||
| That was really great. | ||
| She was like, I demand it! | ||
| Well, I feel like this question put her on the spot. | ||
| They're like put a number on it and she's like, you know, you could do this calculation we could do before the show. | ||
| We did it and she's right. | ||
| Yeah, like if you're paying for like transportation, it's dinner, it's the movie, it's like maybe something after, whatever. | ||
| I just would like a little more. | ||
| Also like anything. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I don't- Just be nicer about it. | ||
| I don't think like, look, Hinge is not adding a thing as far as I know, I'm not on Hinge, but they're not adding a part where it's like, here is the price point at which I am looking for a first date, right? | ||
| This isn't something that people typically lead off with. | ||
| She said $200 and my point was Uber ride, $30. | ||
| Dinner, 50, 60 bucks, maybe 70 bucks, depending on how nice you wanna go. | ||
| If you get alcohol, it's more expensive. | ||
| I'm including alcohol in that. | ||
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| Because if you're going to your average diner in New York, it's gonna be like 30 bucks, or 30 or 40 bucks if you get an appetizer and two entrees, and then booze, you're gonna be like 50, 60. | ||
| Oh, it's gonna be more than that. | ||
| Don't you think? | ||
| I'm thinking like a regular diner for a burger. | ||
| In New York? | ||
| But if you wanna get something nice, like a steak. | ||
| Not in New York, though. | ||
| For even a burger? | ||
| New York is expensive. | ||
| Two burgers is gonna be more than 50 bucks? | ||
| Well, when I used to live in Brooklyn and I would take my kid out to a diner and I'd end up spending like 60 bucks with no liquor. | ||
| Well, okay then. | ||
| So there you go. | ||
| I think it's easily $100 for the meal, especially if you get alcohol. | ||
| So you're at $130 with an Uber and a meal. | ||
| We're talking a nice date. | ||
| We're not talking like you went to hang out at the park and grabbed a burger at Burger Shack or something like that. | ||
| And in Miami, too. | ||
| That's for the third date. | ||
| And Miami, right. | ||
| No, for real, it is. | ||
| And so then you want to do a movie, and you got two movie tickets, $20 each, plus popcorn and whatever snack. | ||
| Maybe you're not super hungry, but you want a popcorn. | ||
| You're looking at another $50. | ||
| You're at like $150 or whatever. | ||
| Another Uber right after the fact. | ||
| Maybe you got two or three Ubers in there. | ||
| Or maybe you drive, and it's less, but still. | ||
| We're still paying for gas, probably parking. | ||
| There's all kinds of expenses. | ||
| And then you want to round off the night with going to the lake and riding a Ferris wheel. | ||
| I'm choosing totally generic things. | ||
| I love this place where we're both in New York and there's a lake and a Ferris wheel. | ||
| I think this is great. | ||
| I think this is a great dating world. | ||
| I think you're in Coney Island, so now you're like... Then that's an even more expensive Uber. | ||
| No, well if you're at a diner... That's like $200 for the Uber to get to Coney Island. | ||
| It's a Brooklyn diner, and then you're at Coney Island, and then you're on the Ferris wheel. | ||
| But I'd want a Broadway show. | ||
| See, and how good are those tickets? | ||
| Oh, for real. | ||
| You could spend $200 alone on the tickets. | ||
| Oh, at least. | ||
| I mean, what if you're taking her to Hamilton? | ||
| It's just crazy, right? | ||
| And so, like, you can argue the girl's not worth it, but that's your preference. | ||
| The point is, that woman has set a standard by which she wants to date by, and I'm surprised people are like, she's wrong to ask for it. | ||
| Like, she can ask for whatever she wants. | ||
| She could say, I want a million dollars on my first date. | ||
| Look, and then you look at her and say, I'm so sorry, you have priced yourself out of, I don't think we're compatible financially. | ||
| So the Boston Globe has Love Letters, which is their advice column, and they have a podcast, and they did a whole season on finances and how it affects relationships. | ||
| But they talked to two, I don't know if they're Gen Z or millennials, but young people, because it is expensive, especially for men to be dating. | ||
| I mean, it is basically something they have to, I don't know if you actually set a budget for it, but it's something they have to factor in if you want to meet a girl. | ||
| And even if you're just meeting her for a drink, right? | ||
| Alcohol is expensive, going out is expensive, the transportation is expensive. | ||
| It's not to be done lightly, and I don't think it behooves women to be like... Well, it goes back to what you said about conservatives being the ones who would actually take someone out and spend the money and do the things and the chivalrous things. | ||
| Well, I think it just doesn't behoove women to say, like, oh, I shouldn't expect these things. | ||
| Like, you're setting a tone for a relationship, and, you know, I don't think you should expect a million dollars. | ||
| On the other hand, these things come with a cost. | ||
| Let's talk about this in the members only, we'll take questions from the audience then, but let's read some more Super Chats to try and get these in. | ||
| NeuroDivergent says, request for Cast Castle, does Ian have like an evil Damien twin that's a neocon? | ||
| Because I think that'd be sweet. | ||
| That would be cool. | ||
| We did a gag where on Cast Castle, Ian did a behind the scenes where he's actually an actor. | ||
| The best line of all time, Richard Nixon, that's a guy I'd like to have a glass of red wine with. | ||
| And then it's like the actor who plays Ian, he's like, what motivates me? | ||
| What gets me out of bed in the morning for this role? | ||
| Money. | ||
| It was just, Ian's a good actor. | ||
| He's like trained and he's like, he does a really good job. | ||
| But it was funny, like the bit was, everything you think about Ian is just fabricated. | ||
| He's actually this like really well trained British guy who's like, just trying to channel this moronic, drug addicted, whatever kind of character idea. | ||
| He's just doing Lawrence Olivier. | ||
| Yeah, it's all a bit. | ||
| Raymond G. Stanley Jr. | ||
| says, Tim, I keep seeing a thing you need to address. | ||
| We only want you to do what's right. | ||
| I have faith in you. | ||
| For the next segment, please check the volume. | ||
| Now, are you saying check the source? | ||
| Because I often will have the wrong source set, and I'll play a video, and then the audio comes out of the wrong feed, and I have to change the source. | ||
| Oh. | ||
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Maybe. | |
| I think that's what he's saying. | ||
| Maybe we should just stop yelling. | ||
| Maybe they want us to speak more quietly. | ||
| No, no, he's talking about my segments. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Because I'll, like, I'll play a Twitter video, but it's coming from the TV and not the speakers, so you can't hear it. | ||
| And I'll be like, ah, wait! | ||
| Gotta do it again. | ||
| Yeah, I'll check your stream deck. | ||
| I thought they wanted, like, a TimCast ASMR video. | ||
| Nope. | ||
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Oh my goodness. | |
| Alright, let's read some more. | ||
| Weird Nugs says, getting married in one week, would you mind shouting out me, Zach, and my fiance, Amber? | ||
| Shout out to Zach and Amber! | ||
| Congrats. | ||
| On your marriage. | ||
| Good job. | ||
| That's so exciting. | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Crossing the Line Podcast says, the trend of Gen Z thinking they will be able to dodge the draft is very amusing. | ||
| It's almost worth World War III to be able to see them go off to fight. | ||
|
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Destroy the world just to spite Gen Z. It's the Millennials I can't stand. | |
| Yeah, real. | ||
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They refuse to go to be to be drafted destroy the world just to spite Gen Z. Yeah, it's the Millennials | |
| I can't stand yeah real yeah, you know Gen Z is pretty pretty pretty based. I think my kids made | ||
| I know a fact about graphene. | ||
| and I just never forgive them for that. | ||
| Oh look, check it out you guys. | ||
| It's graphene. | ||
| I don't know anything about graphene. | ||
| You had a week in this chair and you learned nothing about graphene. | ||
| I know a fact about graphene. | ||
| Ian really likes graphene. | ||
| I don't really understand. | ||
| hitting journalism they pay you for? | ||
| I bought that for Ian for Christmas. | ||
| Oh really? He never opened it. | ||
| Well no, you're not supposed to. | ||
| He's not seasoning. | ||
| You don't want that flying around. | ||
| One of the gags we have for Cast Castle is like walking into a room and Ian's doing lines | ||
| of graphene. | ||
| It looks like toner cartridge ink. | ||
| That's what it looks like. | ||
| It does, it does. | ||
| Alright, let's grab a Super Chat. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| Pinochet's Helicopter Tour says, it's a good thing we did that emergency test. | ||
| I love the conspiracy theory. | ||
| The conspiracy theory was that the emergency test was activating the 5G nanobots or something. | ||
| Oh nice. | ||
| I just know someone told me to turn off all of my like government alert things and whatever else and I still got it so I think the Apple iPhone is in league with the government and I'm the first person to ever think this idea. | ||
| The moment you turned it on, it went off. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Crazy, right? | ||
| I couldn't turn it off. | ||
| It also came early because everyone was trying to avoid it. | ||
| No, I think the way it's designed is that if they're trying to warn you a nuke is coming or something like that, your phone could be off. | ||
| You turn it on an hour later, the message comes through. | ||
| You got it. | ||
| No, I mean like it was supposed to go off at like 2.30 and it said it went off at like 2.15. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| I'm just saying no matter what, everybody gets it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| No matter what you do. | ||
| I don't consent to this. | ||
| They used to do it on radio and TV, remember? | ||
| This is a test of the emergency broadcast system. | ||
| I like that, that's kind of nostalgic. | ||
| Yeah, but like, that's nostalgic, but nobody has a TV. | ||
| Yeah, who's TV running 24-7 anymore? | ||
| I don't, personally. | ||
| Alright, HunterKiller86 says the only bright side of World War 3 is Zephram Cochran will be able to make a warp drive in the aftermath, and when he tests it, he will initiate first contact with the Vulcan race and start us on a path to Starfleet. | ||
| Fair point. | ||
| I learn so much every time I'm here. | ||
| Kurtalinga says, Tim, I saw your video about Cassandra earlier. | ||
| If everyone valued loyalty the way you do, the world would be a much better place. | ||
| Bravo. Good sir. | ||
| And I will also clarify too, because people are mad at Cassandra because she had a tweet | ||
| about a paraglider from Gaza and she said it was impressive, but it was before. | ||
| And so they're trying to act like she tweeted after when we knew that the paragliders were killing each other. | ||
| They have just decided they hate her and that's ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah, as a Jew, let me just say she's been so nice to me. | ||
| I've never met anyone that was so nice. | ||
| And she just wants peace. | ||
| And I will stress too, because we're getting these people being like, who's Tim booking now? | ||
| It's like, bro, all of our guests are booked like two months out. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| And yeah, so like, everybody we've had on the past week, it's because they were already booked. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Not because we were like, hey look, war happened in Israel, let's book these specific people. | ||
| Also, like, I don't know, are you supposed to now be like, no guys, we have to have way more Jewish people on to appease the internet? | ||
| That sounds way more creepy and discriminatory, in my opinion. | ||
| Some dude made a video where he's like, 21% of Tim Cass' guests are Jewish. | ||
| It was a 21.9. | ||
| He went deep. | ||
| He really calculated it. | ||
| And there's no way to appease the internet, Hannah-Claire. | ||
| No! | ||
| But I found out that we book Jewish people at ten times the national average. | ||
| Maybe we should hire that guy to do some data analysis on the company. | ||
| He's really into it. | ||
| I'm like, man, Cassandra, they're accusing her of being anti-semitic, but she books Jewish guests at ten times the national average. | ||
| I love how we get accused of being shills for Israel, and now they're criticizing Cassandra for criticizing Israel, and I'm like, dude. | ||
| This is so funny. | ||
| And some of them are conservatives, too. | ||
| They're attacking our diversity, and I don't like it. | ||
| Cassandra's booked people who are, like, very pro-Israel. | ||
| I think we have, like, some pretty pro-Israel people coming here this week, too. | ||
| But they're booked in advance. | ||
| We didn't book them on purpose. | ||
| Sometimes we get lucky, like, we'll book somebody, and we'll book, like, just a figurative, like, you know, the head of the National Bakers Association on the same day the bakers are going on strike, and we're like, well, how did that happen? | ||
| You know, just... | ||
| Didn't that happen with Crowder and Candace and stuff? | ||
| That whole thing broke down? | ||
| I think we had booked Candace well in advance. | ||
| Right, you had booked Candace in advance, yeah. | ||
| And Crowder came on because it was the timing. | ||
| But the Candace one, that's how it lined up. | ||
| I liked when we had Dan Lyman on and Elon Musk was at the border the hour before. | ||
| And it's like, good, we have a border person talking about the news. | ||
| Stuff like that, yeah. | ||
| It's cool. | ||
| I did not schedule Elon Musk's trip to the border. | ||
| All right, let's see. | ||
| Cordo Mali says, Massad was blindsided by this? | ||
| Are they so inept, so convenient that we forget about Israel's crimes when they get attacked? | ||
| I have no love for Palestine, but the biases on this show are showing. | ||
| Now, I think the issue is we're not talking about anything beyond what's literally happening right now, because I can't. | ||
| And so, for people to come to me and be like, well, what about Israel did this? | ||
| I'm like, no idea. | ||
| I don't know what you're talking about. | ||
| And also, like, from what Hamas said, like, five people knew about it. | ||
| Like, a lot of people knew that because they knew this was happening. | ||
| They were training people for it. | ||
| They train people to do something. | ||
| They don't tell them what it's for. | ||
| And then when you go and do it, you know, suddenly you're over the border and you're actually doing it. | ||
| So. | ||
| Archfantum says, y'all are so warped. | ||
| Tell me this, was Nat Turner wrong to rebel against the slave masters? | ||
| That's the analogy, and again, y'all are warped. | ||
| I will say this, unequivocally, that John Brown was a psychopath and a bad person. | ||
| He was also a famous abolitionist who is cheered on by a lot of people. | ||
| The only problem was he murdered a bunch of people, and that's crazy. | ||
| I understand slavery is bad, dude, no question. | ||
| But like, I don't know. | ||
| I just, I can't advocate for a dude who gets his kids whipped up and goes around just murdering people. | ||
| Like, just not, not the way you do things. | ||
| Maybe 200 years ago. | ||
| So the issue right now is if y'all are arguing there's something bad happening between Israel and Palestine and Gaza and the loss of land and all this stuff, it's like What do we do about it? | ||
| Propose a solution. | ||
| And then I bid you good luck, sir. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| The idea that Hamas is justified in killing civilians because they're slaves? | ||
| No. | ||
| When people were like, it's an open-air prison. | ||
| If someone was being held captive as a slave, and they escaped, broke their chains, ran full speed away from the plantation, and the first thing they did was they ran up to some 20-year-old white woman and just murdered her, mercilessly. | ||
| It's like, okay. | ||
| I don't understand what that has to do with escaping for your freedom, or whatever. | ||
| Freedom wasn't the goal, it was revenge. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or, or retribution. | ||
| Retribution, yeah. | ||
| Or war, or whatever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If, if, if the slaves broke free and then just started like murdering a bunch of random people in and around the areas because they were party. | ||
| I talked about this before. | ||
| Using Game of Thrones as an analogy. | ||
| Donaris Targaryen takes over this city full of slaves and then she immediately executes all of the upper class and slave owners. | ||
| And then they have a scene, brilliantly written, where a guy comes in for an audience with Donaris and says, my father was a good man who was fighting to end slavery and you executed him. | ||
| The idea of just... | ||
| Everyone who is an oppressor is fair game. | ||
| Settlers are not civilians. | ||
| It's insanity. | ||
| It's insanity. | ||
| So you're saying we're warped? | ||
| Bro, I tell you, you're warped. | ||
| If you think it was justified for Hamas to go kill children and kill random people driving in their cars, Israel released footage to journalists. | ||
| A journalist from UnHerd, I trust UnHerd, they do a pretty good job, described these videos in detail. | ||
| I would have preferred to have seen them myself. | ||
| So, I'll reserve absolute judgment saying, I take it with a grain of salt. | ||
| Do you agree that Israel puts out fake stuff too, just like Hamas does? | ||
| I don't have any recent examples, but I would assume that it is 100% likely that they're putting out fake information. | ||
| Yeah, because there was that one picture where there was like a child's book on the floor and there was blood and people analyzed it and said, well, blood doesn't look like this when it dries. | ||
| Doesn't dry pink. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Don't know enough about it. | ||
| And my actual, I've not issued a direct response on that. | ||
| My response there is, There's no point in speculating on what you don't know. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| So when I saw that photo, I didn't tweet about it. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because I have no idea. | ||
| And making an argument without proof, I just think is fanning the flames. | ||
| So that's why I'm critical of the argument that Israel knew in advance and used their advantage because that kind of Innocent people in Israel were killed, and it shifts the blame on the people who killed it? | ||
| Or it deflects a tiny bit, like, off of the murderers onto, well, the government knew about it. | ||
| As if it makes it Netanyahu's fault. | ||
| But don't you think you owe it to your objectivity to at least investigate and see if the Israeli government lied about it? | ||
| Because if they lied about that, who knows what else they lied about? | ||
| Doesn't it open up? | ||
| I did investigate it. | ||
| What more can you find? | ||
| There's a picture of a book. | ||
| Okay, well that's weird. | ||
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| If they poured fake blood over it- How do you know? | ||
| What can you do? | ||
| How do you investigate it? | ||
| Well, you could say the same for some of the reports that you're- Absolutely, which is why I said when UnHerd put out a statement saying they saw the videos, I take it with a grain of salt, because I've not seen them myself. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But when you watch a video of Hamas soldiers shooting people, it's like, is this a sound stage that was faked? | ||
| I mean, the preponderance of evidence, Occam's Razor would suggest, no, you're looking at videos of people who are cheering for Hamas and screaming, Alhu Akbar, murdering civilians. | ||
| And there's videos of this. | ||
| And there is just like... | ||
| Absurd amounts of evidence. | ||
| Justin Dimash put out a video where he said his direct family members were killed in an airstrike by Israelis. | ||
| You have people who are Jewish saying, these are my family members who were kidnapped and killed in Israel. | ||
| I don't think these people are lying to me. | ||
| Right? | ||
| That's all I can say, right? | ||
| So my point on the Netanyahu thing is, people have actually tried to come out to argue that Israel, the government, knew this was going to happen, and I'm just like, what's the point of speculating on that with zero evidence? | ||
| Even Charlie Kirk, I'll criticize Charlie Kirk, what's the point of even saying that? | ||
| It's an interesting thought. | ||
| Of a possibility with zero evidence to suggest it's true. | ||
| Because I don't think there should be blind loyalty or blind faith to anyone but Jesus Christ. | ||
| And I think, you know, I've been following... But that's not blind loyalty, it's like... It's blind loyalty to not question the possibility that someone did do the wrong thing. | ||
| And I've been following... But no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Questioning Netanyahu with zero evidence... | ||
| Let's play this game. | ||
| Did you know that, uh, has anyone asked whether or not the United States actually, uh, told Hamas to do it? | ||
| I mean, think about what's going on in the United States. | ||
| The distraction now that emerged, fracturing the culture war. | ||
| I mean, the benefits to Joe Biden at a time when his approval rating was in the gutter. | ||
| Ukraine was, I mean, what's the point of saying anything like that? | ||
| I could speculate 50 million ways people benefited and didn't benefit from this. | ||
| And so all that's happening is Hamas killed people and then go, yeah well I bet Netanyahu knew. | ||
| Has anyone asked that question? | ||
| And I'm like, sure we'll get to that after we deal with the people who murdered a bunch of civilians who we know did it and did it on camera. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I just, I think it's not one of the situations where you can just look through a narrow lens. | ||
| I think it is two parties involved clearly and I've been following AF posts on a lot of this stuff because I can, you know, look to them for objective news and I've been following it and I'm seeing reports out of Egypt that they gave them a tip and they said this was going to happen. | ||
| They said that there was going to be some kind of an attack. | ||
| There was going to be something happened. | ||
| Well, I think that that gives Israel the foreknowledge that, okay, we may get attacked, so let's, you know, strengthen our borders, let's, you know, gear up our defense systems. | ||
| See, this is the issue. | ||
| The Iron Dome goes down. | ||
| It does speak to my objectivity, and you are very biased. | ||
| You don't know what the information Israel gave us. | ||
| You don't know the value of it. | ||
| You don't know who it was given to. | ||
| You don't know if it was taken seriously. | ||
| It's a meaningless news report. | ||
| Israel may have been warned by Egypt. | ||
| Warned of what? | ||
| What if Egypt says, we think from the West Bank? | ||
| What if Israel said from the North, from Lebanon? | ||
| What if they said it may come from Syria? | ||
| We have no idea what Egypt said. | ||
| We get this vague report that Egypt said something, the quote was, something big. | ||
| Well, isn't it confirmed that they shut their military down for seven hours when the attack took place? | ||
| But those are things we should explore. | ||
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We shouldn't just say, oh, well... But who says we're not exploring it? | |
| So it's... Because it's bad! | ||
| If Netanyahu stood idly by while his fellow countrymen were being slaughtered and carnage was being left behind and Jews were being killed at mass... The issue is that that is made up, right? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| What is your evidence that Netanyahu stood down intentionally with foreknowledge to allow this to happen for political benefit? | ||
| There are reports of it. | ||
| Seven hours. | ||
| What reports? | ||
| Seven hours that the military was given in order to... What's the source? | ||
| I'll give it to you. | ||
| You know, it's also like it was a holiday, I believe, wasn't it? | ||
| Sukkot. | ||
| Yeah, Sukkot, that's right, right. | ||
| Yeah, I was thinking about that when we woke up on October 7th and there was this horrifying massacre and the reports were coming in. | ||
| And I was thinking, Ben Shapiro hadn't said anything. | ||
| Ari Hoffman, who's at the Postmillennial, who's also Orthodox, he hadn't said anything. | ||
| And I realized, like, you know, Orthodox Jews around the world are not going to know about this until Sunday. | ||
| And I just, I just really... You can't turn on the TV and stuff, right? | ||
| Yeah, you can't do that. | ||
| So, I mean, I just started, I was just praying for them to be able to withstand this once they knew and for their families and for, you know... I got to read this one. | ||
| It's a good one. | ||
| John Sarasanguinis, good name, says 51% of Americans voted for Biden equals America supports Biden going to World War III? | ||
| Let me break it down for you. | ||
| 51% of Americans do not support Joe Biden. | ||
| Joe Biden has awful support. | ||
| Isn't it like 36? | ||
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| It depends on where you're looking. | ||
| The aggregate might be like 41. | ||
| But let's make the argument that 51% of Americans did vote for Joe Biden. | ||
| Joe Biden then goes to war in Ukraine with Russia. | ||
| Should Russia be like, well, we can't go to war with the United States because it's their government doing it, not their citizens? | ||
| Or is Russia going to say, we are being attacked by the United States. | ||
| We fully recognize that not everyone in the United States wants this to happen, and we want to minimize civilian casualties, but we are currently being attacked, so we will respond. | ||
| That's the point. | ||
| I pulled up the article, by the way. | ||
| It's thepeoplesvoice.tv, according to Jewish Pro-Life Foundation. | ||
| What is thepeoplesvoice.tv? | ||
| It's a website online. | ||
| According to Jewish Pro-Life Foundation leader Cecily Routman, the IDF was given stand-down orders both the Army and the Air Force seven hours to stand down while those attacks took place. | ||
| And it was fact-checked, it says. | ||
| Did they say after the attacks started? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I mean during the attack, it says. | ||
| During the Hamas assault. | ||
| That seems weird. | ||
| Has anyone asked anyone that's in the IDF if they actually sit down? | ||
| Netanyahu ordered the Israeli military to stand down for seven hours during the Hamas invasion. I sat down with | ||
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| sit down so it's like a you know just ask them By all means I encourage people to investigate and report | ||
| on things like this But forgive me if I don't choose to use the people's voice | ||
| that TV as a credible source Well, Lauren Whiskey reported on it though, and she was just here. | ||
| That doesn't mean anything either. | ||
| Like, the issue is, anyone can write any article. | ||
| About any number of conspiracies as to what resulted in this going down. | ||
| And so what we do know is Hamas wants to kill Israelis. | ||
| Many in Hamas just I want to kill all Jews anywhere. | ||
| They're chanting, even in the United States, from the river to the sea. | ||
| They broke in, they killed a bunch of civilian citizens, old people captured, tourists were killed, children were killed. | ||
| And then, I don't understand why there is this circuitous argument made for Netanyahu standing down, even from Charlie Kirk. | ||
| It's speculative, it has no direct evidence, it has a report from thepeoplesvoice.tv, but let's be fair and say, any report anywhere that relies on, I spoke with someone who says it happened. | ||
| Well, this lady named Ifrat Fenigson, she's a journalist in Israel, she writes for Beresheet News. | ||
| She said that Israel citizens in Israeli towns near Gaza Strip begging for help from Israeli police or army, and they're not there. | ||
| Six hours after this nightmare started, what happened to the strongest army in the world? | ||
| How come border crossings were wide open? | ||
| They got caught off guard. | ||
| Something is very wrong here. | ||
| They got caught off guard. | ||
| Well, she's sick. | ||
| I answered it. | ||
| I gave you Occam's razor. | ||
| But the military was told to stand down. | ||
| That's why they were caught off guard. | ||
| That's what you want to believe to be true. | ||
| I don't want to believe it. | ||
| Then why are you citing a single person instead of talking to a person? | ||
| I don't think an article from a person I've never heard of is evidence enough for me to believe a secutist conspiracy about the government choosing to stand down to allow their own citizens to be massacred to justify war for some reason. | ||
| Well, Times of Israel reported that a top U.S. | ||
| lawmaker affirmed Cairo warned Israel days before the onslaught. | ||
| I mean, there's just a handful of warnings. | ||
| And the quote is something big. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And what does that mean? | ||
| I'm just saying that those handful of warnings paired with a seven-hour halt, it just is, it's odd. | ||
| Seven-hour halt is not proven, and a big warning is vague. | ||
| What you are doing is you are choosing to interpret two vague things to your narrative. | ||
| Well, when a person inside Israel with connections to the government says something... Who? | ||
| I'll pull it up for you. | ||
| It's in this article. | ||
| The guy I just named. | ||
| His name is Cecily Routman. | ||
| It's interviewed by Lori Witzke. | ||
| Who is he? | ||
| He is a... | ||
| Pro-life foundation leader, works with the government. | ||
| What does that mean, works with the government? | ||
| I mean, he's a pro-life foundation leader, so he works with legislators, I assume, to... So he's not actually in government. | ||
| Works with the government. | ||
| So he's just a guy who... So, like, I work with the government, because I've done a show with Matt Gaetz. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So I just don't know why you would say... We work with local government all the time on all our business endeavors. | ||
| We're not in the government, we have no privy knowledge. | ||
| So, then the question becomes this. | ||
| Let's assume that the seven-hour stand-down was true. | ||
| Now the question is, for what reason was it there? | ||
| You, once again, are making the leap that it was an intentional act to allow the civilians to be killed with no evidence. | ||
| I'm making the common-sense conclusion that Netanyahu, with one of the most formidable intelligence agencies in the world, there's no chance that he stood by and let that happen. | ||
| There's no way they just missed it. | ||
| That's amazing faith in the power of the intelligence community. | ||
| Yeah, the Mossad is revered for their reach and for their knowledge. | ||
| But it doesn't matter. | ||
| You can have whatever opinion you want on the Mossad, but none of this is evidence. | ||
| It's just speculation. | ||
| And so I take Occam's razor's approach. | ||
| And that is, the simple solution tends to be, in the absence of evidence, the solution that makes the least amount of assumptions tends to be correct. | ||
| That may not be absolute, but I would argue there's a tendency towards, you will more likely be correct if you go down that path. | ||
| All the leaps you've made are meaningless to me. | ||
| Because there's not evidence. | ||
| It's, I have an idea that seems to make sense. | ||
| Well, it might make sense, but it doesn't mean it's true. | ||
| Well, we don't have the facts yet, and folks that are supposed to be the pioneers of finding the facts are saying, oh, well, we don't need to find the facts because obviously there's this group here who killed a bunch of people, so they're obviously the ones in the wrong. | ||
| I think that several people could be complicit here, and the same rage that you share for Hamas that I share with you, I share for the leaders who allowed it to happen. | ||
| Well, you can argue they had a lot to happen and that they failed, but that's about it. | ||
| They failed and they were complicit, is what my argument is, and I don't think that... Without evidence. | ||
| Well, no, it's not without evidence. | ||
| You don't have any evidence they were complicit. | ||
| That's just an absurdity. | ||
| I don't have any evidence that they weren't complicit. | ||
| We're going to go to members only, but I'm going to say this. | ||
| This is why I absolutely hate this subject. | ||
| Bro, you are wildly speculating without proof of anything, and you are adamant you are correct when you are not. | ||
| Okay, there is no proof Netanyahu stood down intentionally to allow his citizens to be killed for political benefit. | ||
| I don't think someone as poised as Charlie Kirk in the political world would just write a tweet and say, hey, I'm speculating that Netanyahu is wrong. | ||
| I don't think he is. | ||
| I don't think he is. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| You're allowed to think what you want, but you don't have proof. | ||
| I don't think the immediate lashing that he faced for saying that also makes it look like | ||
| he was wrong. | ||
| You're allowed to think what you want, but my point is you don't have proof. | ||
| My proof is that warnings were given days ahead. | ||
| Mossad is the strongest intelligence agency in the world. | ||
| I think there's a lot of things- Oh, did you know- I'll tell you what the warnings were. | ||
| The warnings were that a large pizza party was going to be had. | ||
| You know how I know that? | ||
| I made it up like you did. | ||
| You don't know what that warning was. | ||
| You've chosen a narrative path without proof. | ||
| I don't do that. | ||
| It's not true. | ||
| There's been multiple reports and many outlets have reported on those reports. | ||
| You don't know what the warnings are. | ||
| The warnings of what? | ||
| We know that a warning was given, quote, something big. | ||
| We don't know what they were told. | ||
| If Israel was told, hey, something big's coming from Lebanon, Hezbollah's going to make a move. | ||
| That's not evidence of a Hamas attack and we don't know the degree to which Israel was warned and how it means anything. | ||
| If you're going to take action without a complete picture, you will end up Causing harm, causing damage, and then regretting your actions. | ||
| I don't want to cause damage to anybody. | ||
| And the whole time this conflict has gone on, I've been saying I want nothing but peace. | ||
| I want people to stop killing each other. | ||
| I want civilians and kids' lifeless bodies to stop being carried in the streets of Gaza and Israel. | ||
| And that's fair. | ||
| But if you claim that Netanyahu did it intentionally, without proof, you are actually exacerbating the problem. | ||
| You are escalating the conflict. | ||
| Netanyahu has been under corruption investigation for years now. | ||
| It has nothing to do with what's going on. | ||
| It does, though. | ||
| When you have someone who has a track record of being corrupt, I wouldn't put it past them to stand idly by while their country... But that... Trump is under investigation as well. | ||
| Well, Israel is a lot more poised to support Netanyahu, especially since he served for like 16 years. | ||
| And so I just don't see... I don't see them doing that kind of injustice. | ||
| I think they're obviously using the government to attack Trump here because they know he's the saving grace of our country. | ||
| We've got to elect him if we're going to save America. | ||
| I don't think they think that. | ||
| I don't think that's why... | ||
| I think they know that he's a threat to the swamp. | ||
| I think they know he's a threat to the swamp. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I think he's a threat to the establishment and they know that and that's why they're trying to throw everything at him. | ||
| So this is what I refer to as blind zealotry. | ||
| Right? | ||
| You're saying you want less conflict and no more dead kids but then accusing Netanyahu of intentionally allowing civilians to die To justify political conflict. | ||
| And that is an argument for escalation, not de-escalation. | ||
| Justify political conflict how? | ||
| You are saying that Netanyahu, advancing even Charlie Kirk's argument, I disagree with, I think it's wrong, Netanyahu intentionally allowed this to happen through a stand-down order after being warned by Egypt and knowing it was coming. | ||
| You're arguing that he ordered the army to stand down to allow a thousand plus Israeli civilians, including children, to die and be taken hostage. | ||
| Because he was facing corruption investigations to benefit himself politically. | ||
| That is an argument for escalation. | ||
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| But it absolutely is. | ||
| If what you are saying is true... Retribution. | ||
| Justice. | ||
| If what you're saying is true, that Netanyahu did that, it would require an international, on the part of Iran or other nations, move to remove Netanyahu from power. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you're calling for escalation. | ||
| I'm calling for justice to be carried out and people who were complicit in this attack to face that justice. | ||
| Okay, so if Netanyahu is complicit, what's the action that should be taken? | ||
| Well, they're not registered in the ICC, so I don't know if they can go to International Criminal Court, but... | ||
| So a military force should go in and remove it? | ||
| When they violate Geneva Conventions, there should be a punishment. | ||
| So you're calling for a military action in Israel to remove their government? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| That's not what I'm calling for. | ||
| I'm calling for a tribunal to be, for people to come and answer for their crimes. | ||
| So Netanyahu should be arrested? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| How do you arrest him? | ||
| Who arrests him? | ||
| They're not registered with the ICC, so I don't know, but that doesn't stop me from pointing out the inconsistencies. | ||
| But you're saying someone should go in and stop Netanyahu? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Someone should. | ||
| And that requires use of force. | ||
| Maybe Hamas should do it, eh? | ||
| I think you can belittle... Nah, I think Hezbollah, actually. | ||
| You think it should be Hezbollah? | ||
| You guys are all wrong. | ||
| Maybe they should team up. | ||
| Everyone needs to go with Golden Balls. | ||
| Perhaps it should just be Iran. | ||
| And that's just it. | ||
| No more international governments, just Golden Balls. | ||
| If you want to be right, you have to compete. | ||
| Where is Neville Chamberlain when you need him? | ||
| We've got to go to the members only. | ||
| We're going to wrap it up here. | ||
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| And I appreciate, Preston, for having the conversation. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Yeah, I was going to say the same. | ||
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