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Timcast IRL - KEVIN MCCARTHY REMOVED, GAETZ WINS, McCarthy WILL NOT Run Again w/Lara Trump
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tim pool
Today, history was made when the Speaker of the House, Kevin McCarthy, was removed after
Matt Gaetz filed a motion to vacate.
There were, what was it, 11 defectors?
Republicans?
Who, I shouldn't call them defectors, who joined with Democrats and said, Kevin McCarthy, no confidence, you are no longer Speaker.
We have more breaking news, Kevin McCarthy will not seek the Speakership again.
Where we go from here, I don't know, but I will make it very simple for you in my opinion.
Obstruction and stagnation in Congress is better than the Republican leadership teaming up with Democrats in defiance of the slim majority that was hard-fought in 2022.
What's the point of Republicans having won the majority if they're not going to exercise their power over the budget?
And in fact, Kevin McCarthy would work secret backroom deals with Democrats to fund war and potentially bring us to World War III.
This is going to be a big conversation.
There's a lot here.
Plus, Donald Trump, of course, he is still in his hearing, the trial for his fraud lawsuit in New York City, and a judge has gagged him.
In fact, there are reports that he's being ordered to remove some of his truth posts about the judge or face jail time.
So, we're going to talk about all that.
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Okay, look.
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We've talked to him, everything's good.
I also believe that when he shows up, he's going to get a standing ovation.
The work he's doing in D.C.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Laura Trump.
lara trump
Hello!
Oh yeah, I'll get right in here.
Great to be with you guys.
There's no lack of things to talk about today.
What a day.
What a time to be alive in America, quite frankly.
History being made in some good ways and in some bad ways.
So it's an honor to be here.
Thanks for having me.
tim pool
Completely agree.
Now, I think everybody recognizes your name.
lara trump
Yes.
tim pool
Trump.
unidentified
I guess they do.
tim pool
Do you want to give a brief introduction to your work?
lara trump
Who am I?
So my father-in-law, you may have heard of, Donald J. Trump, married to Eric Trump.
We have two children, Luke and Carolina, three dogs, Ben, Charlie, and Tiger.
I've been kind of a, I don't even know if you would say a spokesperson, an unofficial spokesperson for a long time for my father-in-law.
I try to talk about You know, the way we're going to save America, and I believe that'll be making sure Donald Trump is the 47th president of the United States.
I have a show.
It's called The Right View.
It's three days a week.
And I recently released a cover of Tom Petty's I Won't Back Down, which folks on the left have loved.
So thank you to everybody out there for all the commentary.
Yes.
tim pool
Cool.
lara trump
Thanks.
tim pool
Right on.
Well, thanks for coming.
It's going to be amazing.
We got Luke Rutkowski hanging out.
luke rudkowski
Hey, guys, do you guys know what the best form of government is?
ian crossland
No government?
lara trump
The least government possible.
luke rudkowski
No government!
tim pool
I agree with Laura on this one.
luke rudkowski
And that's why I'm wearing... No, no, no.
I agree with Ian here.
No government at all.
But that's why I'm wearing a shirt that reads, be the reason someone stops believing in government.
You could get the shirt on the best BestPoliticalShirts.com.
We're also doing a meetup in real life here for members of LukeUnfiltered.com this October 8th, and today's a crazy day.
I think it's only going to get crazier from here, but I think there definitely has been a major energy shift and things could go either way from here, but it's absolutely berserk and going to get a lot crazier from here.
Ian, how are you?
ian crossland
I'm great!
Absolutely awesome!
Miami is treating me very well and I love the weather.
unidentified
Thank you.
ian crossland
Mike Cernovich tweeted that out.
The energy shifted.
Something big.
Something's just undulating and moving and changing.
luke rudkowski
It's history.
ian crossland
I'm glad you talked about how we can make the country better.
I'm obsessively focused on it.
I think a lot of it's in the technology sector, like graphene.
We can start pulling carbon dioxide out of the air.
lara trump
I don't know anything about that.
I'm just talking about the basics, like making sure people can afford their groceries.
We'd like gas at $1.87 again.
Energy independence.
Closed border.
tim pool
Unemployment way down.
lara trump
Yeah, like making sure our kids are actually learning the basics in school instead of woke ideology and nonsense.
Those, to me, I think are top of mind.
ian crossland
It takes me to hydrogen fuel.
We'll get into it on the show.
Let's talk about the news.
tim pool
Alright everybody, here's the big story.
Ladies and gentlemen, from TimCast.com, Kevin McCarthy has been removed as Speaker of the House.
McCarthy is the first Speaker of the House to be vacated from his seat in U.S.
history.
Shout out to Matt Gaetz, he is doing the Lord's work.
I will give you my simple opinion without bearing the lead.
In 2022, Republicans won a narrow majority, a slim majority.
And Donald Trump was heavily criticized by establishment Republicans and conservatives for tanking them, saying it's his fault that they didn't have the big red wave because Americans didn't like him.
I disagree.
I think that's not true.
But guess what?
That argument makes no sense.
As soon as McCarthy gets in, what happens?
He starts cutting backroom deals with Biden and with the Democrats.
What's the purpose of Republicans winning a slim majority if the Speaker of the House is going to cut deals with Democrats instead of his own party?
In fact, it's people like Matt Gaetz that help give the Republican Party its majority.
So those arguments that Donald Trump is the reason there's no majority, meaningless if you're going to agree that McCarthy should be working deals with Democrats, because then you may as well just have a Democrat majority.
And so this is my argument against individuals like Thomas Massie.
I like Thomas Massie.
He's a good dude.
Let me play this clip for you of what Massie said in defense of Kevin McCarthy.
ian crossland
This is a referendum.
unidentified
On this institution, we have tried regular order.
ian crossland
Speaker McCarthy has tried regular order.
unidentified
If regular order fails today, if you vacate the Speaker, nobody is going to try again.
Gentlemen, time has expired.
ian crossland
This institution will fail.
tim pool
I ain't crying about it.
Certainly not.
And my understanding is, I've seen reports, Lauren Boebert supported McCarthy, as did Marjorie Taylor Greene.
I respect these individuals, I appreciate the work they do in Congress, but I'm with Matt Gaetz on this one.
ian crossland
You gotta keep in mind, you're not necessarily supporting the man, you're supporting the office and the function of the office.
And maybe what Thomas is saying is that if, and Kevin McCarthy's voted out, that we won't have a speaker now.
And we just won't have one.
And like Kevin said, I'm not doing it.
I'm done.
Other people, who can you even think of that could do it, or would do it?
tim pool
Trump.
ian crossland
This guy, Thomas Massey?
lara trump
A lot of people like that idea.
tim pool
Troy Nails tweeted that he nominates Donald Trump to be speaker.
Seconded.
I'm just some guy on the internet, though.
I hope Matt Gaetz seconds it.
luke rudkowski
It doesn't have to be a congress member.
It could be anyone.
So I think let's throw, you know, Donald Dunkett there.
Donald Duck.
unidentified
Let's throw some mystical characters.
luke rudkowski
Let's appoint a dog as the first Speaker of the House, and I think the dog probably would do a way better job than all the other Speaker of the Houses before them.
tim pool
When Congress, when the leadership in Congress meets with lobbyists and corporate power in secret to negotiate deals on what's going to be in the federal spending bill, and then Brings out a 5,000-page omnibus and tells every member of Congress, just sign it.
Otherwise, you're blocking the troops.
Otherwise, veterans aren't getting their benefits.
That's blackmail.
That is extortion.
You are staring down these good people in Congress, people like Matt Gaetz, who are saying, when he came on the show last week, he said, we want to make sure that we get a bill to make sure, you know, disabled veterans, veterans, VA benefits are coming out.
We don't want them to miss these payments, right?
So this is what they do.
They come to a member of Congress and threaten the vulnerable, and the people who have served this country, and others, and the elderly, to force you into funding Lockheed Martin and other big military industrial complex corporations.
How is that an institution we care about?
Matt Gaetz had a simple proposal.
Propose what you want to fund, and we'll vote on it.
That makes a lot of sense.
What's the problem?
The problem is they know that if they present a bill to fund, say, Lockheed Martin, to fund war, it's going to be debated, and it's going to get stonewalled, there's going to be delays, there's going to be fights, because that's the thing American people actually want to fight about.
But they know if they go to you and say, your kids won't get food, the poor people won't get benefits, veterans won't get paid, then what happens?
A guy in a wheelchair shows up to your office and says, why is my pay getting cut off?
You're obstructing the government.
And you try to tell them, we don't want that for you, we're trying to get that funding.
And then Kevin McCarthy actually says, when they're moving to remove him, when Matt Gaetz files, hey, if you're trying to remove a guy who kept the government open and got the troops paid, we're in a bad place.
It is blackmail for the lobbyists and the multinational corporations.
Matt Gaetz did a good thing here.
lara trump
I feel like the American people probably learned a lot today, too, because oftentimes these things, these omnibus bills, they just get passed, like you said, Tim, and people don't really understand.
All they know is that the national debt is going up, that we're sending money overseas, that things are tougher here for the American people.
So maybe they learned a little bit today.
Maybe people can actually start to talk about these things.
You're right.
It shouldn't just be everyone is forced into this.
We should have a robust debate about it.
We should be talking about what is actually being spent here and on what.
And, you know, I do.
I think overall this is a positive thing.
I feel bad a little bit for Kevin McCarthy, though.
He has had a rough go.
Man, it was tough for him to get elected in there.
I'm sure today wasn't a great day for him.
I generally think he's a nice guy, but this was probably a necessity.
tim pool
You know, we were talking about leadership the other day and how There's a lot of stories throughout history of people who don't want to be the executive, like George Washington.
No, no, I don't want to do it.
I'm like, well, someone's got to do it.
And he's like, I don't want to.
Okay, fine, I guess I'll do it.
And Cincinnati, I think his name was, I think that was, was it Rome?
They had an emergency, said we need someone to take executive authority.
I don't want to do it.
And they're like, you have to.
He took power, he resolved the emergency and then went right back to farming.
And we respect that tremendously.
Kevin McCarthy should have recognized this immediately when there was the fight over the speakership.
That either he was going to have to negotiate and abide by the terms of his negotiations, or he should not do it at all.
And he agreed to terms with, what was it, twenty-some odd, twenty-one members of Congress who were saying, we want to negotiate these specific terms, otherwise we won't support you.
One of those terms, my understanding, was not to cut backroom deals with Democrats.
If Kevin McCarthy wants to Go back on his word and his word is meaningless, then I don't think he's a good guy.
And he should have said immediately, guys, it will be impossible for me to do this deal with you.
I'm not going to be speaker.
And this never would have happened.
lara trump
You know, as you're talking about all these people who are like, I don't want to be in this position, I'm not the right one.
I actually feel like if you go back and look at my father-in-law, for years ago, I mean, we're talking like the 80s, the Oprah interviews, the 90s.
He said for so long, I don't want to do it.
But if there ever came a time where things got so bad I felt like I had no other choice, I would run for president.
And amazing to see that he did it, what he did while he was president, the way they fought against him, what is happening now, all of it.
But as you were saying that, that's the only person that came to my mind.
I mean, to see what he's given up and the hell he's gone through, man.
tim pool
Has his net worth dropped?
lara trump
Oh, I don't know how much, but significant.
tim pool
Especially with the judge attacking Mar-a-Lago, which is really weird for a New York judge to be like, it's worthless!
And it's like, okay, well, I think Trump is one of the rare politicians whose net worth has declined by joining public office, where typically you see Dianne Feinstein being worth, what, $150 million after being in Congress, and the Pelosi's are worth $200 million.
So, you know, I'll give you my personal view is, yeah, there's a big difference between George Washington and Donald Trump.
lara trump
A little bit.
Right.
tim pool
But we've seen all the interviews of Trump being asked since the 80s.
Yeah.
And we even had that, who was it?
It was Trump was on a talk show with, I can't remember who it was.
It was one of those morning shows and they were, who was it?
They were like, you gotta run, Donald.
It wasn't the Oprah interview.
There was another one and he was like, well, you know, I don't know about that.
lara trump
Probably Morning Joe.
ian crossland
It was Roseanne.
tim pool
Oh, was it Roseanne then?
Yes.
ian crossland
Roseanne was encouraging him.
lara trump
Well, she's still a fan.
tim pool
He's been encouraged a lot, and he would always say no.
But back to the main story, I think we have this tweet pulled up.
I think it's actually the second.
Did I pull this up?
Congressman Troy Nails, he's a good dude, we've had him on the show several times, says, Kevin McCarthy will not be running again as Speaker.
I nominate Donald J. Trump for Speaker of the House.
Please.
Matt Gaetz did this the first time around.
Seconded.
And, you know, I just...
I don't see the excuse for any member of Congress to not go for bold changes in D.C.
ian crossland
The concern is if someone nominates Oprah, and then they win.
Like, because it's a popularity contest.
All the Democrats are like, we need somebody famous to get everyone to say yes to it.
tim pool
I get that, but Republicans aren't gonna play that game.
And if Republicans have the majority and can win if they just agree, how about the former Republican president?
ian crossland
Well, does it only take eight Republicans to side with the Democrats to push someone in?
Or nine or something?
I think it's, uh... Five or six, I think, even.
tim pool
I think it... It's not five or six.
I think it was... It might be eleven.
ian crossland
I guess my follow-up question is, if Trump were to take it, would he still be able to run for president as the Speaker of the House?
Or is that a conflict of interest?
lara trump
That I don't know.
It's a good question.
tim pool
I don't see why not, because he's not a member of Congress.
He would just be Speaker.
That'd be really interesting.
lara trump
And even if he were a member of Congress, he could still run for president.
tim pool
You know, I know it's just not reality, but people were talking about a few years ago, like Steve Bannon was saying, nominate Trump for Speaker, vote him in as Speaker, and then when you impeach Biden and convict Biden and Kamala, Trump becomes President.
ian crossland
What are the qualifications for the Speaker?
Like, what are the main things you need from that person?
What do you mean? Like charisma? Do you need intelligence?
Do you need like...
lara trump
Those are probably favorable, yeah.
ian crossland
Connections in business, in the industry? Or is that actually a bad thing?
So how do you want these people? Do you want them to be like...
tim pool
I would say their qualifications, the requirements. Not necessarily qualifications,
because that implies like a procedural thing, but the characteristics we're looking for in
any leader is going to be integrity, honesty, transparency, to the best of their abilities.
I understand we have security issues.
luke rudkowski
Something completely lacking in Congress that very few people have in there.
But I think someone that doesn't roll over on their back and let the Democrats have their way with them.
I think that's the first thing.
I think anyone that's not a rhino, anyone that's not a neoconservative, anyone who doesn't want to perpetuate the larger proxy war in Ukraine right now, I think this is a larger kind of referendum against Congress failing the American people.
Throughout many years now, they never represented the will of what people actually wanted.
There was never a public referendum on if we should start a proxy war in Ukraine.
There was never a referendum on the debt ceiling.
Kevin McCarthy, another thing he did, he made it that the Biden administration could print and borrow as much money as they want until 2025.
Right now, just a few days ago, the debt went up $275 billion in just one day.
It is set to increase to almost $1 trillion in just one month.
It just hit $33 trillion.
America is being destroyed by a lot of the corporate influences that have hijacked Congress.
And this is a referendum saying, we had enough.
tim pool
Stop it.
Let me pull this up.
We have this from Gallup right here.
In, uh, 2020- is this 2022?
2023, I'm sorry.
September 1st, 2023, the approval rating for Congress is at 17%.
ian crossland
Look at that, right after 9-11.
lara trump
I know, I was trying to figure out what that was.
I know, look at that.
tim pool
Those false flags are terrifying. 17%, And my question is, to Thomas Massey, legitimate, I am not being a dick, I am genuinely asking, for what reason do we want to preserve the current iteration of an institution that has 82% disapproval?
Not only does it defy any democratic standard, but even if we want to operate on a supermajority principle, or just say it should be representative and not direct democracy, I think it's fair to say, when 82% of people are like, we don't like what you're doing, it's time to change this system.
luke rudkowski
It's a simple choice, you know, deadlock, or allow the government to steal your money and then finance it and give it to Ukrainian oligarchs that, of course, will be using it for their own purposes.
What do you want?
tim pool
I prefer the deadlock.
It's not even about Ukraine.
I mean, I know that's a big talking point right now, but let's just talk about the problems this country has faced, that the left has been screaming about, that we've been talking about.
How many years did we get the Flint water crisis as big news with Democrats saying we gotta fix these pipes?
You know what I say?
My answer is, deal.
We stop funding war in foreign countries, be it Afghanistan, Syria, whatever, and I say we divert that money to the pipes in Newark, in Pittsburgh, in Flint, And you know what?
Then, because it doesn't cost that much money to fix the pipes, we launch a commission to start going and hiring contractors to fix pipes everywhere.
Better yet, we can build bridges, fix our roads, we can hire American construction workers, hey, maybe we can build a bollard fence down on the southern border with the money that we're spending overseas.
ian crossland
Out of graphene, I like how you're thinking about it.
tim pool
Out of graphene!
You know what, Ian?
Deal.
I tell you this.
Ian, we have a deal.
We stop funding the war in Ukraine, Afghanistan, Syria, all of these foreign excursions that have done nothing for the American people.
And Congress approved secure fencing and homes.
We'll start doing homes.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
And we'll build it out of graphene, if that's what you want.
ian crossland
You can 3D print tubes and then lock them into joints and make like domed housing really cheap with that stuff.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
They actually, there's, yeah, what was it, geodesic domes you talked about?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
They actually, they inflate a big bag and then they wire, they put wire around it and cement it and then deflate the bag and it creates like a domed house.
lara trump
That's smart, look at that.
ian crossland
Part of the reason why I'm going a little hand-heavy on it right now is because at Rice University, they figured out how to create hydrogen fuel, and every kilogram of fuel they're making out of waste, they'll hit it with lasers and make it, it produces a byproduct of graphene, of $4.50 worth of graphene for every kilogram.
lara trump
So we're trying to find a use for that.
ian crossland
Before this, you had to spend money to get hydrogen.
Now you're making money because you're getting a product, and then you can make electronics out of it, or you can burn it.
tim pool
And I will grab that particularly esoteric concept and bring it back to this.
If Congress came out with a bill that said we will take new fuel, buy products to produce products here in this country and create American jobs, they're approved.
Why don't we hire?
If Kevin McCarthy came out banging and screaming about the need to fund graphene, their approval rating would be higher.
luke rudkowski
Ian, there's a bunch of comments right now with people talking about you laying down pipes.
I'm not going to get into that one.
But you guys are talking about some very interesting concepts about what you guys want Congress to do.
I don't want them to do anything!
Stop taking my money!
Stop trying to fix problems!
Leave people alone!
Let the free market fix whatever problems are occurred that usually are occurred by the government.
So I think if the government steps away from our life, stops intervening, stops taxing, stops regulating, stops saying you could do this but you can't do this, stops favoring the multinational corporations and the banking elite, then I think life would be better for everyone.
And I think if they just took a step back, allowed the free market to be a free market, everything would be way better than it is right now.
tim pool
Agreed.
And the starting point is not that we just overnight say we no longer have any spending at all.
I think, realistically, there's so much we don't see in terms of federal spending that we would like and would need at least to get to a point where we can get away from this kind of thing.
But the obvious and immediate is veteran benefits.
Oh gosh.
I don't think anyone in their right mind is going to be like, let's just cut the government off.
When we were talking about the government shutting down, Matt Gaetz was like, no, it means veterans aren't going to get paid.
That's not a good thing.
And we're like, right, right.
We're kind of just goofing off.
Fair point.
But he did say one of the first things we get through if we're not going to fund the government is making sure that our veterans get paid.
I do not like the idea that Whether you like the wars or the foreign policy or not, I don't like the idea that anybody who served in my name would be left high and dry without benefits.
I would gladly pay if that was the case.
So when we talk about we don't want the government spending our money, I completely agree with Luke as it pertains to their corporate buddies revolving to our policies.
And then as it pertains to the good men and women in uniform who served us and our nation, whether or not our leaders have led them astray, I think these people deserve more money.
A lot more money.
ian crossland
Part of why there's been so much pushback against what Matt's doing to destroy the Omnibus Spending Package concept is that it's literally, and I'm using the word correctly here, completely and totally impossible for the 430 people in Congress, or however many, to read all those bills.
They don't have enough time.
lara trump
Oh, God, no.
ian crossland
So we're going to have to change the way that our republic functions and let the people read the bills decentralizedly.
No, no, no, no, no.
tim pool
They should not be spending that much money.
So there are priorities.
When, like Matt Gaetz said, you know, they come to me and say, we've got to fund the military, we've got to fund veterans.
Like, easy.
Get the bill, it's approved.
Like we all agree, it's done.
There's no question, there's no obstruction.
Every member of Congress says yes to that.
But then they want to fund the Department of Education.
Now there's a debate.
The issue is, 435, or how many, is it 430, or was it 435?
I'll check.
I don't know.
Members of Congress, if they can't read that many bills, should not be voting on them and spending the money.
ian crossland
Or we should have more members of Congress.
No, I disagree.
unidentified
No!
ian crossland
Oh my god, no!
We used to have one for every 70,000 people, now we have one for every like 900,000 humans.
tim pool
And that's true!
ian crossland
Functionally.
I want people to represent themselves, honestly, and I'm kind of tired of representative thing.
I understand the stopgap of you don't want the mob to go crazy, but people have the ability to govern themselves, and I think we should use modern technology to do it.
tim pool
I disagree.
I agree on technology and modern technology, but I don't think you want people who, look, My view is this.
We certainly want decentralized power.
I like the idea of representatives.
I don't like the idea of how they've been basically exploiting and lying to us.
But the issue is, if you are a tradesman, if you're a teacher or a nurse, you don't follow politics all day, every day.
And that means someone whose job it is to provide a service outside of politics needs to be able to trust you to go to you and say, hey, man, I trust you to do what's right.
You're a good person.
I give you my vote.
And that person takes up their whole time and energy focusing on policy
issues and making the country work.
I'm fine with that. The problem is, for too long, corrupt individuals have been like,
these suckers actually believed me. And they're ripping everybody off and they're lying about it.
ian crossland
It's too easy to bribe because there's so few of them.
luke rudkowski
But Ian, the Pakistani gender studies are not going to fund themselves, okay?
Who's going to fund the Sri Lankan speedboats?
Who's going to fund all these other programs that, of course, are absolutely pointless and steal your money for no reason at all?
Who's going to do it, Ian?
lara trump
I like the America First idea, like you're proposing.
Honestly, there's so much that this country needs.
There's so much we could do, so much good here that could be done.
I mean, shouldn't we at least focus here first before we send all this money overseas?
And I think that that's a real frustration.
I think that that is the good thing that came out of this.
And I do agree, the 82% who are very unhappy with Congress would probably be a lot happier if they actually saw the impact of all of this exorbitant spending, but no one ever sees it.
You go into like LaGuardia Airport, I remember I used to fly into LaGuardia if it was raining, there would be like trash cans there to catch the rainwater.
And I was like, God, this is what some people see when they first arrive in the United States of America.
This is the first impression.
We are supposed to be the leader of the free world and the superpower, and yet this is how our country is functioning right now.
tim pool
You need to do something different.
Yeah, I think Donald Trump actually exemplifies the problem of government in a unique way, outside of just the fact that they just strapped weights to him, falsely accused him of tons of things, they're trying to persecute him, prosecute him.
I think, you look at someone who built this empire, knows how to run multiple companies, creates multiple brands, the left tries to argue, but look at all those bankruptcies, it's the stupidest argument ever.
500 plus companies and a handful of bankruptcies, and bankruptcies don't mean failure, it means you're literally preserving the business.
But you take someone like that, he becomes president, still gets things done despite what's going on, and the challenges he still faced show.
When you go to the government and say, hey, we need to put up, say, like suicide nets on the Golden Gate Bridge.
Half a billion dollars later, it gets done.
You go to the private sector, and they compete over it, and ten million dollars later, it gets done.
I guess, what was the old saying in 2016?
Under budget and ahead of schedule?
lara trump
Yeah, well that was him.
That's how he operated as a businessman, and I actually think that when he became president, He believed he could get so much accomplished and he thought, well, gosh, if I just run things like I did a business, then it will say, I mean, you, he would talk about Lockheed Martin.
He renegotiated for the new Air Force Ones, which, by the way, will start flying in 2025, just in time for him to arrive on them as President.
But he actually tried to save money.
He tried to do all these things.
He went to South Korea and he said, why is it that we're funding all of this stuff over here for you guys?
You can fund it yourself.
We're going to stop sending a bunch of money over here to you.
You could fund some of your own stuff.
He saved the country, I mean, unknown amounts of money that no one ever talks about.
And it made zero difference.
No one talked about it.
No one cared about it.
And I think it's insane that you can have someone with The ability like he had, and yet this government is in such a mess that it really made almost no difference.
luke rudkowski
Well, to be fair, he did also spend a lot of money, and he did also increase the deficit and the debt a lot.
I do think he had a lot of policies that were very favorable towards blue-collar workers, I think more favorable than any other president in our time, but the deficit was increased a lot under his presidency, and I think we're still dealing with those ramifications today because of that.
ian crossland
I kind of see the difference of running the country and a business as, like, the solution to our economy isn't in money.
It's not in finance.
It's in the productive capability of the people.
lara trump
Absolutely.
ian crossland
So you could print shit loads of money and build graphene factories and start producing massive hydrogen fuel and make us the wealthiest country on earth, but just printing the money, like, It doesn't take money to do that.
I mean, we can print as much money as we want right now, so we just need to incentivize people to do it.
lara trump
We need our factories back.
We need manufacturing back.
We need to produce things here in this country.
Do you know how hard it is to get anything really made in America for a decent amount of money?
Everything is so expensive to do here, and we have to change that.
Otherwise, we're going to be in a really bad spot.
Look at COVID.
Look at the supply chain, how much we learned, how much we realized we really weren't doing here.
Yeah, you need to make it here, you need to incentivize business here in this country, absolutely.
ian crossland
Some of the hard chemicals, like East Palestine, when that train derailment went off and it annihilated the community, that's why we moved a lot of that stuff over to China, because if it spills, we don't want it to spill next door.
But I do believe the risk of having the Chinese producing this stuff outweighs the risk of contamination.
But I mean, contamination is devastating, too.
It's like a two-sided coin that obviously— You know what it is?
tim pool
It's these climate change policies.
And so what Democrats do is they say, OK, you can't make a business that has X amount of carbon or whatever.
So the companies say, OK, China it is.
So when Joe Biden comes in, this is why I think they're lying.
I think they are full of it.
Joe Biden says we're going to bring back these restrictions.
Climate change is bad.
Now you can't produce X amount of carbon.
You have these taxes.
You have these fees.
But hey, we're going to remove tariffs so you can import products for free.
He is outright telling businesses, send your factories to China.
lara trump
Yep.
That's exactly right.
And I mean, it's so devastating in so many different ways, I think, to our country.
I mean, if you look at inflation, if you look at the job situation in this country, this is this is a I don't want to say it's an easy fix, but it seems so obvious.
And it was all set up so well.
I give my father-in-law a lot of credit.
The tariffs on China, the trade deals that he negotiated with China.
I mean, who would have ever thought we'd have something like that, honestly?
ian crossland
Yeah, he was the guy that actually opened my eyes to the danger of our relationship with the CCP.
I knew it was not good.
lara trump
Terrifying.
ian crossland
Until he was like, China, China.
And I was like, okay, I still don't get it.
But then eventually I started to realize they produce the antibiotics.
lara trump
If they poison our antibiotics, like with fentanyl, China is waiting right now and salivating over what they see happening in this country.
The fact that Joe Biden is our president, that we seem in a weakened state, that our economy doesn't seem like it's headed in the right direction for the long term.
They are ready to pounce and take over as the superpower of the world, and Donald Trump was the first to call them on it.
He's been talking about China for decades, and if you go back to his 2015 speech when he announced he was running for president, he talked about China then, and people were like, he's so crazy, so unhinged about China.
He was right about them.
It's actually terrifying if you really think about what their long-term game plan is in China.
They're ready to take over.
ian crossland
Do you think he knew because he'd been doing business there for so long?
unidentified
Yes.
ian crossland
He just knew how they function?
lara trump
Yes, absolutely.
Big part of it, for sure.
ian crossland
Tim, you look like you're pulling up another story.
tim pool
Well, yeah, Kevin McCarthy is speaking.
I can't find the video right now.
It's live, so I imagine... Oh, cool.
Yeah, it'll be a second before it pops up on Twitter, so we'll pull that up in a second, but for the time being, let's jump to this story from our good friends over at CNN.
Judge issues gag order and rebukes Trump after social media post attacking his clerk.
And we also have this one from Dr. Kelly Ward.
Judge is threatening real Donald Trump with jail if he doesn't remove this post from Truth Social.
Well, of course, we will highlight that post so you can all know the news.
Trump truthed.
Schumer's girlfriend, Alison R. Greenfield, is running his case against me.
This case against me.
How disgraceful.
Disgraceful.
This case should be dismissed immediately.
linking to a tweet from judicial protests saying, why is Judge Engron's principal law clerk, Allison R. Greenfield,
palling around with Chuck Schumer? Well, I guess because of this, the judge says Trump is here by
gab, which I find funny considering the judge is allowing cameras in the courtroom. This whole
thing is very obviously an attempt to drain Trump's energy and resources to attack his
circle and cause political damage to interfere in the 2024 election.
lara trump
Absolutely.
I mean, that's what they've all been about.
This is another example.
This one is particularly egregious.
If you look at the fact that you have Letitia James The Attorney General of the State of New York, who ran a campaign not on doing what was best for the people of the State of New York, not locking up criminals, not really going after the hard crime.
My gosh, New York City is a mess.
You just take that city in and of itself, let alone the rest of the state she's supposed to be looking out for.
She ran a campaign where she said, I'm going to be a real pain in his ass.
I'm going to go into the Attorney General's office every day suing him and then going home.
She never cared a second about anything other than Donald Trump.
So here you have a situation where there is no plaintiff.
There is no person that was injured. There is no issue whatsoever on behalf of these banks who made
tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars off of these loans that they gave the Trump organization.
And yet here we are with my father-in-law now for the second day and I assume tomorrow as well
in court in downtown Manhattan over this absolute nonsense.
And these people want to dissolve his business. Make no mistake about it. They want to inflict
maximum pain. Yes, they want to inflict maximum pain. They ordered it, this judge ordered it in a
summary judgment before even hearing all the facts of everything when he told everyone Mar-a-Lago is
worth 18 million dollars.
What an utter joke.
And then whenever people said, well, what does that mean?
What do you want dissolved?
He said, I'm not ready to rule on that yet.
It is wild stuff.
It is Banana Republic at best.
tim pool
I gotta read this quote here.
This is too good.
The judge said this morning one of the defendants, one of the defendants, posted on a social media account a disparaging, untrue, and personally identifying post about a member of my staff.
Although I have since ordered the post deleted, and apparently it was, it was also emailed out to millions of other recipients, the judge said in court.
Personal attacks of any member of my court staff are unacceptable, inappropriate, and I will not tolerate them.
I just love that Trump emailed it out to everybody just to make sure you got it.
Hey, look, you can order someone to delete a post on social media, but once the email is sent, it's sent.
That's the benefit of using email.
I just think it's absolutely absurd that the judge is telling Donald Trump he can't speak This is unrelated to the trial.
When it comes to civil suits, it is unsurprising that there will be gag orders, right?
If person A sues person B, it is normal for the judge to be like, guys, don't disparage each other.
Donald Trump is talking about the court.
I mean, so, you know, maybe someone might advise him not to do it.
I just think the judge putting cameras in the courtroom, issuing a summary judgment, has already shattered the judicial norms we expect, and this makes no sense.
ian crossland
What was the personal attack?
tim pool
He said she was palling around with Schumer.
It's a picture of her with Schumer.
lara trump
Well, by the way, that's very relevant whenever this is an individual who's part of his staff there.
And this is supposed to be an impartial judge.
Are you kidding me?
This is like the attorney general is supposed to be impartial as well.
These people have an agenda.
They have had a bias, obvious bias, against Donald Trump from day one.
So I think it's very relevant.
I think it was appropriate.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, that attorney general isn't impartial.
She's very partial.
She's very biased.
She clearly has a political agenda.
There's so many horrible crimes.
There's so many things happening in New York City right now.
And for the city to spend their resources going after the former president of the United States for this is just absolutely ridiculous, in my opinion, and a waste of time, a waste of taxpayer money.
But also, more importantly, just also at the same time is making Trump more popular than ever.
tim pool
Didn't she run on going after Trump?
lara trump
Absolutely.
tim pool
Well, just recently there was a left-wing activist in New York City who was with his girlfriend when a deranged man came up and stabbed him twice, killing him on the spot.
ian crossland
He came up to the deranged man, let's be clear.
The news will have you think that the deranged man approached him.
He approached the deranged man.
tim pool
Yelling at him, right, right, right.
ian crossland
Saying, hey, hey, trying to get his attention.
The deranged man turned on him and was like, what?
tim pool
Deranged guy walks past him, knocks over scooters.
This guy gets up and yells something, says something to him.
The guy gets in his face, the dude stands his ground.
Then the deranged man stabs him, killing him.
luke rudkowski
And he's still on the loose.
tim pool
And he's still on the loose.
And I can only say one thing.
Look, these are the activists that voted in, advocated for, a DA who is going to go after
the former president instead of dealing with a crime in their own city.
ian crossland
I think a lot of the thing that scares me, a lot of the part that scares me about this is that some of them, yes, they're emotionally going after Donald himself, but some of them, I think the deep, deep dark thing, they're going after anyone that would do what he was trying to do by re-nationalizing our industry.
Like, the people they want, I think there's a global bank, I don't know, man, but You mean no borders?
You mean free flow of people all around?
Do you mean a centralized, yeah, banking system?
Ultimately, the world order is changing and they want to create this build back better,
this weird digital technocracy.
lara trump
You mean no borders?
You mean free flow of people all around?
Do you mean a centralized banking system?
You could just have it in your head?
You could go down a real dark hole.
You could have tenfoil hat, but the only thing we know about a conspiracy theory is it's like six months until it actually becomes true, generally speaking.
ian crossland
Yeah, I'm comfortable speaking disfervently about it now because of the last two or three years.
tim pool
The Russell Brand thing was a week!
Yeah, they're like, it's a coordinated effort against Russell Brand.
The media's like, what a kooky conspiracy theory.
And then we get leaked letters from the UK government being like, we want him removed.
We're concerned he can make money on your platform.
And then he starts getting banned.
It's like, oh, okay, the government was doing it.
luke rudkowski
We're coordinating the hit pieces and, of course, releasing key information tidbit by tidbit by tidbit to, of course, build it up and have the maximum effect in order to try to hurt him.
I think something very similar is happening with a lot of these district attorneys.
A lot of them are usually financed by George and Alex Soros, who have financed them, who have bought them off and have created policies inside of the United States where you can hurt people You won't go to jail, you won't be in trouble.
You defend yourself against individuals trying to hurt you or steal your property, you go to jail.
You express political thoughts and ideas, you go to jail.
But you're a criminal, you can get loose, get free anytime you want because of these policies that were implemented without any kind of vote.
Without any kind of referendum, and all it took was secret billionaire money that financed these individuals that were a part of the larger ideology that these people are implementing.
And this ideology is one that is, of course, very leftist, very similar to what happened in communism, very similar to, of course, what happens in a lot of totalitarian regimes where people are punished just for their political expressions.
This is the current world that we're living in, which is absolutely terrifying and should scare the crap out of everyone, because there's no longer a justice system.
There's a system that uses power to punish people politically.
ian crossland
Elon Musk on Twitter, or on X rather, Elon.
lara trump
Are we ever going to call it X?
ian crossland
I'm about to.
lara trump
Really?
unidentified
Twix.
luke rudkowski
I like calling it Twitter still.
ian crossland
I do it kind of in jest.
lara trump
I mean, everyone's like, X, also known as Twitter.
Sorry to interrupt.
tim pool
Yeah, exactly.
lara trump
Are we ever going to call it that?
tim pool
Because a lot of people don't know what you're talking about.
lara trump
Exactly.
ian crossland
On X. It sounds like ecstasy, like I'm tripping.
tim pool
I'm on X. Everybody's on X. Brett Dastanick from Pop Culture is calling it Twix.
ian crossland
That's a good one.
tim pool
Well, that's even more confusing to me.
ian crossland
He actually said the word that George Soros figured out how to do politics through arbitrage, which is basically send a little bit to a lot of places and just kind of buy the system by getting all these local DAs and court.
lara trump
Yeah, that's what he does.
tim pool
That's crazy.
lara trump
That's nuts.
ian crossland
What does he do?
Do multiple businesses or something?
luke rudkowski
I don't know all the ins and outs of the Soros dynasty and their multi... Well, there's multiple organizations and multiple NGOs and multiple ways that they're just funneling a lot of their money and financing a lot of these woke leftist radicals that are in positions of power and clearly abusing those positions for their own personal benefit.
tim pool
But I keep saying, I think we are winning.
And by we, I'm referring to the anti-establishment faction, which includes post-liberals, libertarians, I always have to clarify this.
You look at today, and one of the, Brian Krasinski, I think it was, just tweeted, this is a win for Democrats, not Republicans.
It was eight Republicans who sided with Democrats to oust Kevin McCarthy.
The Republicans voted to keep him in.
And I'm just like, Yo, it was a win for the anti-establishment.
It's obvious.
We knew it was going to be Democrats voting to remove him.
And Democrats are looking at it like, I think it's really funny because Democrats should have actually wanted him to stay in.
He was cutting deals with them.
But they can't.
They're politically trapped.
You look at the cultural victories.
You look at Matt Gaetz's massive historic victory today.
Anti-establishment is winning.
lara trump
I hope so.
tim pool
There's a quote from Gaetz.
He said something to the effect of... I'm paraphrasing.
He said, based on his recent conversations with the former president, he feels like he's doing the right thing.
Something to that effect.
Not to say that Trump actually told him to do it, but that Matt Gaetz feels confident this is the move that has to be made.
I believe it is.
I believe it's about time someone stood up to the corrupt mechanisms of Congress The challenge we face is that for Congress it is always easier to kick the can down the road instead of ripping the band-aid off.
And Ron Paul had that famous quote, I'm again paraphrasing, where he said, you know, we got to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan.
They keep saying, oh, well, it was a mistake going in, but now we need an exit strategy so we can't just leave.
And he says, if you prescribe the wrong medication, you don't just keep them on the same medication, you get them off!
And it's like, yes.
We've been sitting by with Congress broken forever, being like, well, you know, it's going to be bad if we change, it's going to be bad if we keep doing it.
We can't.
We got to change it.
ian crossland
Some medicines you want to wean off of.
tim pool
I know, I know.
ian crossland
Basically, Biden's surrender in Afghanistan was like just stopping Turkey.
tim pool
No, I disagree.
That was terrible.
That was deliberate.
Abandoning Bagram Air Force Base is not ripping the band-aid off.
It's pouring sewage onto your open wound.
That's insane.
But my point is, with what's going on with Trump, with what they're doing, I want everyone to realize these moves are only being made out of terror and desperation.
They're trying to dissolve the Trump organization?
For what purpose?
It strips him of resources.
It ties up his time and energy.
He should be campaigning right now.
They're trying to set this trial, the federal trial, just before Super Tuesday.
The day before.
The day before.
unidentified
Super Tuesday.
tim pool
That all of these things are so obviously just how can we cement Trump's legs down to stop him from winning?
It is quite literally them cheating to win in 2024.
And by cheating, what I mean is we expect elections to be a little dirty, but for the most part, it's how many votes can you get?
What they're doing now is Can we use the legal system to damage Trump's life and threaten his lawyers so that no one works with him again?
You've got in Georgia, his lawyers being indicted.
Jenna Ellis for just literally providing him legal advice.
And then you also have, I think it was out of Colorado, two lawyers fined $187,000 by a judge for simply arguing Trump's position.
They sued and appealed to the Supreme Court saying, We're lawyers.
We were asked to represent this individual.
That's what we do.
It's a constitutional right.
And the Supreme Court said, shove it.
So they have to pay nearly $200,000 for doing one thing.
Trump says, here's my argument.
They say, we'll craft the argument for you.
And now, the judge in the case says, 200 grand.
What they're trying to do is make sure no lawyer ever worked with Trump again.
lara trump
Yeah, well, they want to inflict maximum pain.
They want as much collateral damage as humanly possible because they don't want anyone around Donald Trump.
They don't want him to have a circle of people he can trust, he can rely on, who can go out there.
I mean, if you look at this case right now, he's been in court over the past two days, this Letitia James AG case.
Every person had testified that my husband, Eric, and my brother-in-law, Don, had nothing to do with any of these valuations, and yet they got dragged into it, too.
Why would you do that?
Maximum pain.
I mean, to me, it's so much of what that January 6th committee sham nonsense was, which was it wasn't really about anything other than warning people if you dare step out of line again.
You could be on the hot seat next.
Don't ever question anything this government does or tells you to do again, because next time it could be you.
It might be Donald Trump today, next time it could be you.
tim pool
And it will be.
I'll give you an example of the game they're playing when it comes to the judge in this Trump lawsuit.
AOC made a video after January 6th where she said someone banged on her door, she went and hid in the bathroom, heard a voice say, where is she?
unidentified
Where is she?
tim pool
And she thought she was gonna die and all that stuff.
What she was doing was making you believe that she thought rioters broke into her office.
Immediately, conservatives said her office isn't even in the Capitol building.
To which the media responded, there are tunnels connecting it.
And then this one surprised the heck out of me.
I did the whole timeline, I fact-checked everything, and I said, her story took place one hour before the Capitol was even breached.
She was manipulating the context of the day.
Most people did not know the timeline.
The only thing they knew was that on January 6th, people stormed the Capitol.
So when she says, on January 6th, someone banged on my door and I was scared, she is lying to you because she knows you don't understand the basic context around this day.
What this judge is doing is very, very similar.
He says, the tax assessor says the property is only worth around 18 to 20 million at Mar-a-Lago.
Trump is inflating the value of his properties.
He's committing fraud.
What do regular people hear who don't pay attention?
Judge rules Trump committed fraud.
lara trump
Fraud.
tim pool
But here's the funny thing.
Anybody paying attention Immediately recognizes the problem here, depending on how deep you go in terms of paying attention.
If you're someone like me, I just pull up the actual property, the comparables in Palm Beach and West Palm Beach and I'm like, Mar-a-Lago is 17 and a half acres from beach to beach and a third acre goes for, you know, $30 million with a house on it.
A lot that's just half acre is like 10-20 million dollars.
How is Mar-a-Lago as just land worth less than this?
However, anybody with a cursory understanding of real estate knows the values aren't set by the individual, it's appraised by the lender.
lara trump
Exactly.
tim pool
When you mention Eric and Donna have nothing to do with the evaluation, right?
The bank comes in and says, here's what we think it's worth.
lara trump
Yeah, they have their own due diligence.
They have a fiduciary responsibility to send someone in.
They're not going to take my word for it if I'm like, yeah, I got a house down the street.
It's worth $10 billion.
You can trust me on that.
Of course, they have to look out for themselves.
It's a business at the end of the day.
That's the crazy part of all of this.
And you're right.
The truth is that The average person out there probably doesn't understand this kind of minutiae, right?
All they cared about and all they have ever cared about is that headline.
Donald Trump and the word fraud next to it.
And that's it.
That's the end game for them.
They want to inflict maximum damage to him.
They want to tie him up.
But Luke, you said it.
I do believe it's making him stronger.
I feel like all of this stuff has shaken people awake.
That mugshot?
Forget it.
That mugshot was probably the biggest mistake they ever made.
The number of people who have approached me post mugshot and been like, you know what?
I really have never paid attention to politics.
I wasn't sure I liked Donald Trump, but that mugshot somehow to some people represented a system that had been failing them, that was broken, that was working against them, working against Donald Trump.
And they were like, wait a minute, I see what they're doing to this guy.
And now their eyes are open and they're not going to be closed.
luke rudkowski
And it actually unified a nation.
The Democrats really liked The Republicans really liked it.
I made a t-shirt of it right away.
And a lot of people were buying it on the left and on the right.
It didn't matter.
But more importantly, every time they do go after Trump, you see his poll numbers go up.
And right now he's higher than he was this entire election cycle, even though he's saying some kind of very interesting things.
Just for yourself, I'm kind of curious, as a Trump, do you feel like you're under a spotlight?
Do you feel like you're targeted?
Do you feel like someone is just waiting to see if you're going to do anything wrong just so they could blow it up in the media?
lara trump
Every single second of every single day, absolutely.
Yeah, I mean, these people are disgusting.
And to be honest with you, if it weren't my family and I hadn't had first-hand experience with this sort of stuff, I would say this is, I mean, that's really overblown.
There's no way.
But it's true.
They pick apart anything that any of us do.
They try to attack us for it.
And honestly, you really think that if any of us had, I don't know, Yeah.
obtain a firearm illegally and lied on a federal gun application and then thrown
the gun in a garbage can next to a school. We wouldn't be locked up right now.
Get the heck out of here. That's the frustrating thing is the clear
double standard that exists between someone with the last name Trump and
luke rudkowski
someone with the last name Biden. Or just smoked crack and bought ladies of the night and
took photos of themselves doing it.
I mean, there's controversy on both sides there, but it's just absolutely crazy how far the media will go and how they will just, in many instances, make stuff up in order to try to frame you guys as really horrible people.
lara trump
You want a great example?
luke rudkowski
I was going to ask you, what's one of the craziest ways that the media has attacked you that had no reality at all?
lara trump
So last year, we had a hurricane come through the state.
The hurricane hit the western side of the state of Florida.
I live on the east coast of Florida, so anyone with a little knowledge of a hurricane knows there are bands of rain that come through.
And in between those bands, it's clear.
It's fine.
My kids were cooped up inside.
They canceled school that day.
So I took my kids and my dogs just down the neighborhood on a little walk in between the bands of rain.
My son was on one of these little, like, motorized tractor things that he had and I took a video because all of a sudden we got poured on out of nowhere with the rain.
I posted it on social media.
People were calling for child protective services.
I'm not even joking.
To come to my house.
There were multiple stories written about how I was an unfit mother.
I mean, it is, it's so insane.
Yeah, that's one of the probably least faves of my past couple years.
tim pool
It's getting crazy, huh?
ian crossland
Dude.
lara trump
Yeah.
ian crossland
Yes.
But as you guys were talking, firstly, you got caught in the rain with your kid.
That's, I guess, normal.
lara trump
I said, I captioned it, character building experience.
Cuz it is!
tim pool
Sometimes it rains.
lara trump
Sometimes it rains.
We were like, she's putting her child in danger in a hurricane.
Oh my god.
unidentified
Okay.
ian crossland
This Build Back Better, which is like a World Economic Forum thing, then Biden starts saying it.
Okay, is it not?
That's not a coincidence, humans.
tim pool
Well, he got made fun of by Boris Johnson for stealing Build Back Better.
ian crossland
I just constantly...
So the Brits were doing it, too?
Yeah, all over Europe.
This organized four different indictments, unrelated, all within the course of six months on Donald Trump.
That's not a coincidence, either.
lara trump
All the day after a Hunter Biden or Joe Biden big information drop happened.
Yeah.
tim pool
But understand, it's a standalone complex and a conspiracy.
So there's the bigger picture, which is all these indictments happening.
I don't think you need New York to coordinate with Georgia and the federal government.
These are people who have Trump derangement syndrome who are going to do these things of their own volition.
In fact, as soon as the feds make a move, then Georgia's like, now's our chance, now we can pile on.
Some of this stuff, like, right, every time Hunter Biden's indicted, there's like a UFO leak or some new indictment of Trump comes out.
That seems coordinated and a group of people organizing that at a high level.
But all of the attacks on Trump, it's because these people are deranged and they're going to keep doing it.
You look at what happened to Brett Kavanaugh with that woman, Swetnick, I think her name was, accusing him of being at parties where they would line up outside of rooms to take turns Just, you know, having their way with women against their will.
I'll keep it as family-friendly as I can.
She didn't... No one came to her and told her to say it, right?
Or my assumption is that.
Maybe I'm wrong.
It's just that these people are so deranged, they're like, I'll just do it, and they come out of their own volition, and it looks coordinated when it often isn't.
unidentified
Man.
ian crossland
I spent my youth believing in people that they would be honest.
I just thought, like, if you're good and honest, then more people will be good and honest, and we can make a good and honest society.
And then I'm learning in my midlife that deceitfulness and evil is, like, the way to lead.
Like, throughout history, that's how they've been doing it.
They kill their opponents, they take control, and they say that they were the good guys.
tim pool
Yeah, there's that tweet I referenced about that.
It was a video of hyenas eating some kind of ungulate alive.
They were eating it from the belly, eviscerating it.
And the tweet said, it is not the case that the most vicious and evil people are punished.
In fact, nature shows us that they are often rewarded.
And that was the point, that you watch this poor, I think it was like a wildebeest or something, struggling to get up, being devoured alive.
And yeah, there's an old, uh, there's an old hacker joke saying, if you're not cheating, you're not trying.
ian crossland
I understand Jesus in a way, from the Bible, like, what, they said that he, he was just like, they don't know what they're doing, man.
And he just let it happen.
Cause like, what can you do?
It gets to a point where like, I'm not gonna become evil, at least I don't want to.
So like, how do I, how do I really help society without becoming evil?
lara trump
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
How much crazier do you think it's going to get?
Because I think we're in the middle of the election cycle, but I think it's going to get crazier.
lara trump
I agree.
luke rudkowski
What do you think is going to happen?
Because we have the indictments, we have the court hearings, but they're not stopping Trump.
They're making him more popular.
I really do believe we're in an inroad where the system is becoming more and more desperate.
How desperate do you think they will become?
lara trump
Well, I think they become more desperate by the day because I think, you know, you look at who they're running on the Democrat side, Joe Biden and apparently Kamala Harris, two of the lowest polling favorability, I mean, president, vice president in history.
These two are just absolutely horrible, one worse than the other.
They have a big problem on their hands.
They have no bench on the Democrat side.
We seem to have a little bit of a bench on the other side of the aisle.
But I think they're getting more desperate by the day because it must be so frustrating to see all the effort they're putting out against one guy and it's boomeranging back and it is having the opposite of the intended result for them.
So, I'm sure it's going to get a lot worse.
tim pool
Let me jump to this story.
We have this from the Daily Mail.
Shock poll shows RFK Jr.' 's run as an Independent could pull more support from Trump than Biden in 2024.
And the poll basically shows, it asks, if you have a favorable view of RFK Jr., and they find that Republicans actually have a more favorable view than Independents and Democrats.
Democrats have a relatively unfavorable view of RFK Jr.
Of course, we're hearing now that he may run as an Independent, but I actually want to say right away, I think this is wrong.
Republicans have favorable views of Vivek Ramaswamy.
They're voting Trump.
They have a favorable view of RFK Jr.
They are voting Trump.
As Phil Labonte said last week, Trump's bottom is rock solid.
And I think that could probably be phrased a lot better, but his voter floor is not going to move.
44% of whatever individuals who support Trump ain't going to back anybody else.
I like RFK Jr.
I have a favorable view of him.
I'm not voting for him, right?
lara trump
I agree with that, yeah.
tim pool
I think the Daily Mail's view is wrong.
I think the poll's interesting, for sure, but I think they're wrong.
If you look at independents 36 to 37, it's within the margin of error.
The question is how many independent voters who would normally vote Democrat will end up voting RFK Jr.
instead, and will that spike Joe Biden.
Real quick, Rich Barris came on the show and said, if RFK Jr.
runs, it could be a Ross Perot-like moment, and Trump could end up winning states like Maine, because it'll split enough of the Democrats, and Trump could end up winning the presidency with like 43-44% of the popular vote.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's what happened with Lincoln.
We talked about that.
It was a four-way split.
Four parties were running at once.
tim pool
I don't like where this is going!
ian crossland
I don't trust polls, firstly, because they can be used to manipulate public perception.
And I hate to be the guy that constantly asks, but how many people were polled here?
Is this like a thousand people?
And then they extrapolate it.
lara trump
Usually a thousand, I think.
ian crossland
And then they tell you that it stands for 300 million, and it's like, no, it stands for a thousand.
lara trump
Well, they also didn't ask, would you vote for him?
They asked, Tim, what you said, the favorable versus unfavorable.
I have a generally favorable view of RFK Jr.
I like that he posts workout videos.
I sometimes post a workout video.
I'm okay with that.
I think a lot of Republicans like him.
Because he called out the Democrats for a lot of their crazy nonsense that everybody can see is insane.
And he was like, yeah, I don't agree with that.
Or hey, I don't know, maybe you shouldn't be forced to have a vaccine.
That's why I think a lot of Republicans have a favorable view.
But you're right, the Trump base, I don't believe going Anywhere.
tim pool
But you, I mean, and you had people saying Trump-RFK Jr.
unidentified
2024.
lara trump
I've heard that.
tim pool
Yeah.
And it's like, okay, well, probably not, but people like the anti-establishment.
And I think that shows you, even though RFK Jr.
has had anti-2A sentiments in the past, one of the biggest issues in the election in 2016, 2020, now even the midterms, is anti-establishment versus establishment.
If you're RFK Jr.
and you say the machine is broken and I have these political views, people will be like, I care less about your policy positions and more about your opposition to the corruption in Congress and D.C.
and the federal government.
luke rudkowski
There was an article released a couple days ago highlighting how Hillary Clinton was warning Joe Biden in a private meeting that a third-party candidate would, quote, prove disastrous for him as a White House insider caused a situation pretty effing concerning.
This is the reporting from the Daily Mail that just happened a couple days ago.
I think, you know, it is interesting to see RFK Jr., to see where he's going to be going.
Allegedly, he's going to be announcing on October 9th in Pennsylvania an independent run.
That's the rumors that are circulating right now.
I don't know if that's true or not, but there is a very big stark difference between RFK Jr.
and Donald Trump, especially when it comes to COVID, their response to COVID, their response to Operation Warp Speed.
And we have to understand here, Donald Trump was advised by RFK Jr.
And was going to launch an investigation into these medical procedures that people get injected with, and then Donald Trump decided to take the advice of Bill Gates and not listen to RFK Jr.
and not do that investigation.
Now, a Trump-RFK Jr.
ticket, I think, would ease a lot of the concerns of a lot of anti-establishment people.
What percentage do you think it's possible that there could be a Trump-RFK Jr.
presidency?
lara trump
I don't want to say super high percentage, to be honest with you, but it's funny because people ask me all the time, well, who's he considering as a running mate?
Anybody on the debate stage?
And the truth is, he's kept this one pretty close to the vest, I will say.
And so I don't know who he's considering, and I don't know if it would be RFK Jr.
tim pool
But are there considerations?
lara trump
I'm sure there are.
unidentified
Yeah.
lara trump
Absolutely.
He's considering things, multiple things, at all times.
luke rudkowski
If you're thinking about a ticket that says, screw you establishment, I think it is a Trump-RFK Jr.
ticket.
lara trump
I can see that.
luke rudkowski
And I think it would ease a lot of the fears about a new potential COVID virus coming back under his presidency.
If RFK Jr.
was there saying, hey, I'm here as vice president, I here will stand up for the people and for people's own individual rights for their bodies to choose what they want to do with them.
tim pool
I agree, but I just think there's way too much political baggage for that to happen.
A lot of people have entertained it, but I suppose the bigger issue is, I don't know who Trump could pick as a running mate.
We've said, a lot of people thought it would be DeSantis for a long time, and now that's completely not happening.
Vivek Ramaswamy, but he says he doesn't want to be VP, but he has to say that.
But I don't even know if he would be the right pick.
Some people are saying Kristi Noem.
luke rudkowski
I have no idea. It can't be someone close to his views and his kind of overall messaging.
It has to be someone polar opposite. There's a reason he picked Mike Pence, the neocon.
tim pool
Well, there's a reason Biden was chosen for Obama.
luke rudkowski
Why Obama chose Biden because they're completely different from each other.
So if Trump has a choice right now between a RINO, between a Mike Pence kind of candidate for his vice presidency, or a Democrat, maybe even a Tulsi Gabbard or an RFK Jr., I think picking a Democrat will help him out more than picking a RINO neoconservative, which clearly, especially what happened today, a lot of people have disdain for.
tim pool
And I saw a Twitter poll from, I can't remember who it was, but it was like 10,000 or so votes, and I was surprised to see Tulsi Gabbard got more votes.
It's not a scientific poll, I'm just talking about Twitter, than Vivek, than RFK Jr.
People thought Tulsi Gabbard would be a good pick.
lara trump
I like Tulsi Gabbard.
tim pool
Yeah?
ian crossland
She's military, yeah.
unidentified
Right?
tim pool
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
And she's positioning herself in a very curious way, doing media appearances, speaking tours, in a way where she's kind of running, but not running.
tim pool
I gotta be honest, when I think about Gnome, I think about RFK Jr., Vivek, I'm kinda like, I don't know.
I don't think Tulsi Gabbard has, in my mind, a substantially higher percentage, but it does seem to make more sense.
He's gonna get a lot of moderate, old-school, and post-liberal types who are gonna be like, with Gabbard there, I'm willing to support this.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, there still is a kind of Bernie bro sentiment within the Democratic Party of not liking the establishment.
There still is the kind of Jimmy Doors out there, the Russell Brands out there that do Glenn Greenwald, that do represent kind of a leftist kind of anti-establishment ideology that could galvanize a lot of votes and I think would be more popular than a neocon.
tim pool
Joe Rogan said now twice on his show, he would vote for Trump over Joe Biden.
Joe Biden is not there.
He hasn't gone as far to say, I'm going to vote for Trump.
He's like, if it was Trump Biden, I'd vote for Trump over Biden.
I think if you had a Trump-Gabbard ticket, and again, this is we're just we're just spitting in here.
I mean, it's all just silly nonsense.
It's probably meaningless in the big picture, but just Thinking about it now, Joe's friends with Tulsi.
I think you had a Trump-Gabbard ticket, Joe's gonna be like, I'm voting for Trump-Gabbard, Tulsi's my friend, I trust her.
I think that's big.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, you need someone that's gonna galvanize more people outside of his base that are gonna vote for him as the VP ticket.
tim pool
But I don't even wanna entertain that, right?
Because it's just like, it's a silly conversation.
I mean, six months from now he's gonna pick someone and you're like, oh.
ian crossland
But it could be that you're just offering ideas that eventually get around to Don and then... That's true.
lara trump
No, I hope that doesn't happen.
There is someone here who knows him.
tim pool
I'm just saying.
unidentified
Part of the DJT, Tulsi Gabbard is like, that's a good idea.
ian crossland
Cause the baggage about RFK.
lara trump
I like your impression.
ian crossland
I think it was like two days after he announced he was running the, it's an anti-vax really big on a news article about him.
And they hadn't said that about RFK before that.
And it was right when he announced it, I was like, I'm gonna call my mom, get her before the brainwashing hits.
Because once people get brainwashed, it's harder to unbrainwash them.
So when you know it's coming, you tell your loved ones right away.
lara trump
Preemptive.
ian crossland
And then when they see it, they're like, oh, he was right.
And they're ready.
tim pool
And that's what the media is trying to do to you.
They're like, we've got to poison the well in RFK Jr.
before people can talk to their family about it.
luke rudkowski
Exactly.
And there was a coordinated attack against RFK Jr.
Now, he's in a very interesting position because he also made some very interesting statements about the border, which a lot of Democrats aren't really making right now.
He did flip-flop on the Second Amendment.
He has been pretty solid on his bodily autonomy that he's been standing for almost his entire life.
So he's positioning himself in a very interesting way where he's not far left and he's not far right, but he is anti-establishment, which Trump is as well.
tim pool
Here's a question.
We just got a super chat from Ginger McIsaac saying Larry Elder for VP.
What do you guys think about that?
He did really well in California.
lara trump
I like Larry Elder.
I think he's a great guy.
I don't know enough about him to say... He's too similar to Trump.
tim pool
That's the problem.
lara trump
You have a lot of alpha energy there on both.
tim pool
It's a hard question.
I have to imagine Trump is...
luke rudkowski
Strategically, you also want to have someone that, if they impeach you, you want to make sure that they're not going to be more favorable than you are.
So you also want a horrible person like Mike Pence in there.
Or Kamala Harris.
And that's why Vice President... Or Joe Biden!
And that's why all the Vice Presidents are horrible!
Dick Cheney!
Look at all the Vice Presidents!
They're horrible human beings!
Every last one of them!
It's perfect, yeah.
lara trump
It's the reason that Joe Biden hasn't been impeached yet, as far as I'm concerned, because everyone's like, oh my god, then it's Kamala Harris.
luke rudkowski
Trump-Pelosi ticket, I'm calling it right now.
lara trump
You know what?
I don't want to spoil it, but that's the ticket.
luke rudkowski
It's confirmed, we got it.
lara trump
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
Now, you were joking, but you're going to get some journalists speaking on a podcast, which confirms Pelosi is the... Absolutely.
We've reached out to the police office for comment.
lara trump
I hope they do.
ian crossland
Tulsa's on the pulse.
Tulsa, I like the Tulsa Trump concept because I started thinking of like a sun and moon metaphor when you were talking about that.
They're so different, you know, and but complimentary in a lot of ways.
tim pool
said in like 2019, a similar absurd thing, I said if Trump appointed Tulsi
Gabbard as national security advisor and Andrew Yang as an economic advisor, 49
state landslide. And what I mean by that in that context specifically was like I
mean that figuratively like it's gonna be a blowout victory if he does
something like that. I personally, for me, my personal approval rating on a
Trump-Gabbard ticket is very high.
And I'm already planning on voting for Trump.
You know what I mean?
But I'm like, Tulsi's military experience means a lot to me.
And she's moderate.
She's called out the Democrats consistently, even going back to 2016.
And I respect that she's got a spine.
And she is a balancing force in my opinion.
She's younger.
I think that actually works a lot, but I'm still kind of like, look, I don't know, man.
I don't know what the right thing should be.
ian crossland
I think she would whip the military into charge.
She's awesome.
unidentified
She's a beast.
lara trump
Well, they're going to need a lot of work after the past couple of years.
God bless them.
tim pool
Sad stories, man.
Hearing about people who are retiring because of the wokeness and stuff is a bummer.
lara trump
It's terrible.
I mean, why would we want to focus on military readiness, though?
tim pool
It's better to focus on pronouns and things, so... When we see this funding of Ukraine and the verge of World War III, you've had, over the past several months, prominent politicians and political figures in Europe saying, we're in World War III already.
And I'm not talking about Russia, I'm talking about the EU.
I think the Pope even said it.
At this time, we need recruitment to be up.
We need inspiration.
We need advocacy.
But instead, we get the inverse.
We get these ads that are super woke, that are offensive to most people who are in the military, and they don't want to join.
They're retiring.
And now we've got this recruitment shortfall.
ian crossland
I want to do a genetic engineering campaign to make super soldiers, so people will be like, yo, I'm going to get free genetic CRISPR technology and become stronger and faster, and I will join.
luke rudkowski
That's exactly what China is doing right now.
tim pool
Hold on, hold on.
ian crossland
And it will drive recruitment up.
tim pool
No, Ian, I'm sorry, you are incorrect.
ian crossland
All those young kids that want superpowers.
tim pool
That's not how it works.
It works.
China's doing the genetic engineering in pre-fertilization.
ian crossland
It can be done on adults too.
tim pool
But it's nowhere near.
The real super soldier program is, China's actually doing this.
They're genetically engineering humans pre-born.
Because when you're already a human, your DNA has already built a lot of your body.
They can change you in certain ways, give you hormones and do CRISPR stuff.
But the real project to make a super soldier is, as you're being fertilized, as they're creating a human, they're doing these weird things.
Yeah.
lara trump
There's a book called The Hundred Year Marathon.
It's by Michael Pillsbury, and he documents exactly what the plan in China is.
I mean, this just kind of feeds right into it.
but i have a hundred years that they expect to take over as a superpower of
the world and they go about it in a lot of different ways a lot of it is very covert a lot of it is playing the
victim all we need help all we are not as powerful as the united
states when in fact
apparently they're doing this crazy genetic stuff and doing making super soldiers already allowed let's be honest
luke rudkowski
america doesn't always have the best history when it comes to experimenting
on on u.s.
soldiers as well and using them and horrible experiments that usually and
tim pool
that and the muck but that don't work with the worst Just a shout out to remember when Joe Biden was referring to the Tuskegee experiments and called them the Tuskegee Airmen?
ian crossland
Yes. Oh man. Continue. We could also do like a tech, not like cyber tech super soldiers where you're like, do you
want to get like jump suits and like things that can let you lift like a thousand pounds and kids will be like, hell
yeah, dude.
tim pool
Yes. But if you go to right now, we're seeing that seniors in high school males are skewing heavily conservative. You
go to an 18 year old male and say, how would you like to have a super suit like Iron Man?
And they're like, that'd be really cool.
All you gotta do is join the military.
And they're gonna be like, that woke garbage?
Not interesting.
ian crossland
No, we would need to create videos that would propagize it.
Propagandize.
Yeah, or I'll just shorten it to propagize, because I'm the man where it shows it in badassery all around.
Like dudes lifting stuff and throwing boulders and stuff.
And then what's gonna happen is... Seven-year-olds will be like, wah!
tim pool
But these young males are going to be like, that's so cool.
And they're going to go to their friends and be like, dude, you see that military video about the super suits?
And they're going to be like, why would you want to join the military?
And then they're going to insert insult about wokeness, whatever joke you want to make.
And they're like, I don't want to join.
I was just saying, I saw the commercial.
That social pressure is going to be massive.
My point is simply this.
Sure, you may convince young people with super cool videos or whatever, but a lot of these young men, they're going to be like, why would you do that?
They're like, what are you, a loser?
ian crossland
Due to protect the country, really.
tim pool
It's not, but it's not!
ian crossland
In case of invasion.
tim pool
It's not!
After Iraq and Afghanistan, after the botched pullout, after Syria, I don't think any sane person is thinking this.
ian crossland
Libya.
tim pool
Not to mention, Libya was a disaster, and so you have young people who are going to go to their parents, Dad, I'm thinking about joining the military.
Why?
So you can go occupy some country for 20 years that does nothing for the American people?
ian crossland
That's what my dad said to me after Vietnam.
He was served in the Navy in Vietnam.
He was like, if there's anything in your body that you want to do, anything that you want to do creatively, do not join the military because it will destroy that part of you.
Don't do it if you don't want to.
luke rudkowski
Well, you look at what they did with Agent Orange in Vietnam.
Also, very horrendous, horrible effects on the U.S.
soldiers there.
They also had things like the gay bomb.
So, what you think that they're doing in China, I think it's fair to say that the American military probably has already experimented on and done here inside of the United States.
As, of course, Echo Health Alliance, Dr. Fauci, have been playing around with genetics and altering viruses and sicknesses ever since 2001 after the Patriot Act was passed by the Republicans that allowed them to do this without even being punished or facing any repercussions for it.
and now and now we're back at this to go and hold on it's been a little bit
tim pool
but i think you know i guess it is still a look you're making really great points
instead of talking about the co-op alliance to point out the men who
Do you guys know that one?
ian crossland
A little bit.
tim pool
When the US government was experimenting with psychic powers.
Don't you want to join the military's psychic powers division?
ian crossland
Because at this point, it's not covert anymore. We know that they're developing psychic technology. We know that
those things are real. So, propaganda, like, make that your military recruiting
luke rudkowski
strategy. There's also MKUltra. There's also mind control.
There's also a whole bunch of stuff and a lot of really inhuman psychological and physical experiments that they have been
doing on a lot of human beings that are unsuspecting of a lot of these experiments that they're
participating in that they have been tested on without even their knowledge.
There's an article here that's pretty interesting by the South China Morning Post that's reporting how a team of
Chinese scientists are behind splicing animal genes into human genes in order to lead to
super soldiers who could survive nuclear fallout and be resistant to radiation. So this is
something that's already happening.
Let's pull this up.
And it's probably financed by the United States.
tim pool
Here's the article that Luke just mentioned.
Chinese team behind extreme animal gene experiment says it may lead to super soldiers who survive
nuclear fallout.
Modified human embryonic stem cells showed supernatural resistance against radiation,
according to a paper by Academy of Military Sciences team in Beijing.
Shanghai-based scientist says study may open can of worms, particularly when funding is
involved.
And they show a water bear there for some reason, a tardigrade.
Now the funny thing, I just, you know, this is, this was, okay, fallout video games.
Thank you.
This is a component of the story that the writers created for that video game.
Fallout is a story where there's a nuclear war, wipes everybody out, tons of people move into vaults, and there's something called the Forced Evolutionary Virus that attempts to make humans more resistant to radioactive fallout, so they give people the virus to alter their genes.
Instead, they get sterilized and their brain capacity diminishes.
I don't know about whatever this is all about, but it is funny to me when you see works of fiction In some fashion, be replicated by scientists.
And I think it's because people who are writing fiction are imagining what the future could be like with the technology we're developing, and these stories persist.
ian crossland
Well, I'll give you some fictitious future.
A bunch of these guys with radiation resistance get a hold of the nuclear weapons and light the world up so that they're the ones that are left.
tim pool
Now you're talking about Wrath of Khan.
ian crossland
They actually embedded tardigrade DNA into human embryonic stem cells to gain radiation
resistance.
tim pool
This is amazing.
Is that what it was, tardigrades?
Yeah.
Yes.
ian crossland
I thought it was embryonic stem cells.
They put it into embryonic stem cells, the tardigrade genes.
luke rudkowski
And then they give it to soldiers.
tim pool
So now you're talking about Wrath of Khan, where in Star Trek, humans genetically engineered
themselves to become better, and then the genetically engineered people said, we're
superior to them, and so then the humans were like, we gotta get rid of these super soldiers,
Sent them into outer space, froze them, basically.
I think I may be getting this story wrong, but that's generally the idea.
luke rudkowski
Military.com has another very interesting article that's titled, The Future U.S.
Military Super Soldier May Be Closer Than We Think.
So, these projects, again, I was just speculating that they probably are in existence, and they are.
tim pool
So, um... What year, what is this, what's the date on this one?
We have it right here.
I don't see a date, though.
ian crossland
Military.com's great.
tim pool
Yeah, there's no date on this.
Though it may not look like the process that Steve Rogers went through, it may be coming within the next 30 years.
ian crossland
That's it.
luke rudkowski
And then there's a famous saying, whatever you think the U.S.
military has, it's usually 30 years behind for what it already has right now.
ian crossland
Dudes are going to be able to breathe underwater, like not have to breathe.
They'll be able to see super far at night.
tim pool
But why do this when we already have the robot dogs with guns and those Boston Dynamics robot people?
ian crossland
Because robots can't secure street corners and they can get shut down by EMPs.
tim pool
Robots can, perhaps, I wonder if they can do a Faraday shield over some of these robots.
They would be pre-programmed AI, I don't know how you control them, if their signals are shut down, but yes, they can occupy street corners.
ian crossland
Yeah, maybe a street corner, but they can't occupy government buildings.
tim pool
Aerial drones can't, but robots can occupy street corners.
lara trump
You guys have a very bright outlook for what's coming.
First of all, you're giving a lot of credit.
There's a movie that I'm thinking of, Idiocracy.
Has anyone ever seen that?
Where the military does an experiment where this average Joe gets frozen for like a thousand years or something, and when he wakes up, society has degraded in such a fashion that he is the smartest person on the planet.
Society is in shambles.
They don't know how to farm.
They're running out of of food, they have no water, it's a disaster.
tim pool
And their president was a WWE wrestler.
lara trump
Yes, exactly.
tim pool
And Donald Trump is in the WWE Hall of Fame.
luke rudkowski
So my whole point- And they're wearing Crocs before Crocs became popular.
lara trump
Is that true?
luke rudkowski
Yes.
Really?
Yes.
lara trump
I'm terrified we're headed down a path more likely.
luke rudkowski
It's not that we're headed to, we're here.
lara trump
It's happening now.
ian crossland
The plastics in the water supply, the weird pharmaceuticals, the fourteen, twelve year olds are getting put on Adderall.
luke rudkowski
The seed oils, the man boobs.
tim pool
But, but, but, but, but, I gotta hammer this point that Democrats sterilize their kids, abort their kids.
And they actively argue against having kids, so while they're doing everything in their power not to have children, the right is having more kids, and they're fighting a culture war over children's education.
So, my point here is, if it were true that the left had unmitigated indoctrination of children, I'd say, okay, the right's in trouble, your kids are going to get indoctrinated.
But if there's a cultural battle over what's happening in these schools, And you combine the fact that Democrats are actively trying not to have kids, give it 20, 30 years, the country is back on track.
lara trump
I hope so.
ian crossland
Regarding poisoning of like, you called them forever chemicals?
luke rudkowski
PFAs.
ian crossland
PFAs, perfluoroalkyl stuff, they figured out how to get them out of the soil.
You hit it with lasers, you convert the soil into graphene, it removes the PFCs, the perfluoroalkyls, out of the graphene, then you put the graphene back into the soil, it fertilizes the soil, and you've removed the forever chemical.
luke rudkowski
Huh.
lara trump
This graphene is a big deal.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's 21st century steel.
luke rudkowski
It's a big deal.
ian crossland
It'll be the building material that lets us lightweight build in space and on Earth.
We can make clothing out of it.
I'm not wearing any right now.
lara trump
Do you have some graphene clothing?
ian crossland
Yeah, shirts.
They're really cool in the heat and they keep you warm.
lara trump
I'm sure they do.
ian crossland
It's pure carbon.
unidentified
It's just carbon.
luke rudkowski
If we could come back to the point, I think a lot of this genetic manipulation is essentially governments playing with godlike power and authority, especially when it comes to creating super soldier babies, which obviously has been happening for a very long time.
Obviously the Chinese government is doing it, but technology is really advancing at such a fast pace that it's going to outpace our ability to control it.
And I think we have already reached a point where maybe even artificial intelligence could already be in charge, and we might not even know about it.
lara trump
Terminator.
luke rudkowski
Exactly.
But it's not even a Terminator-like society.
It would be a lot slower and a lot more of human beings acquiescing to it slowly and surely that would be a lot more beneficial for the system to kind of implement their total control on everyone.
And you've got to kind of ask yourself, what are they going to be using radiation-resistant super soldiers for?
That's a question that I think we should be asking ourselves after looking at these articles.
ian crossland
To go into the fallout after the bomb drops.
Worst case scenario.
But to go with what you're saying, have you guys noticed, this is anecdotally, that your map programs are malfunctioning in the last couple weeks?
Have any of you guys had your Google Maps or your Waze?
I've just noticed twice in the last two weeks from two different drivers them telling you to go right and then make a circle and then go back and then forth.
And it's like, yo, this could be AI.
This could be a hack.
This could be a... This is the long war.
This is the way that China... This is the way that... Wait, wait, wait.
tim pool
You want to confuse people.
Is anyone else reporting that these things are happening?
ian crossland
I'm just wondering, anecdotally, if you guys have experienced it.
I haven't.
Because it's happened to me two times.
I haven't.
And it clicked, like, this is what the Chinese would do to fight along, where you confuse and disorient the population.
And if AI is tracking, do they turn right when we tell them to turn right, when they know it's not?
Then they'll know, like, okay, so it's easy to manipulate this one.
lara trump
Well, of course it is.
tim pool
You're right.
But I'm not saying it's happening now, but the strategy you're saying is correct.
What they would do is, They, uh, our enemies, whether it be China or Russia or whoever, would not disable GPS.
They would not disable communications.
GPS would be off by a degree.
They would do things like that.
Then we're less likely to notice, and then all of a sudden, our cruise missiles or whatever, hypersonics, are missing their targets.
ian crossland
I asked people on Twitter today and a lot of them said yeah.
It was just anecdotal.
tim pool
I remember during Occupy being on the ground covering these protests.
You hear this all the time.
Even conservatives started saying it in, you know, 2017, 2018, when they started going out more and being in large crowds, that, oh, the feds are jamming our cell phones.
They're shutting our phones down so we can't communicate.
And I'm like, no, dude, you don't understand.
They're spying on you.
They want your phones to work.
In fact, they deploy mobile cell units to high-traffic areas and protests to make sure your phones don't go down, because they're spying on you.
Your phone went down because there's too many people here, and the cell towers can't handle it.
People don't understand.
They think our enemies would disable GPS.
No, that's ridiculous.
They would spy on our GPS to track everything we do.
They want us using these things.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, data is the new oil, and data harvesting, getting information on people, and also getting their DNA is something that the Chinese government has been doing in a very aggressive way.
The FBI, a couple years ago, sent out a memo during COVID saying, hey, if you're taking a COVID test, just make sure you're disposing of the swab since there's been Chinese government and Chinese government connected corporations taking those swabs and then data harvesting DNA from the American people in order to, of course, not just game the big pharma system, but more importantly, also just get the genetic information of the American people, which could potentially be used for genetic bioweapons, as we know, are also in progress and in the works by the U.S.
Pentagon.
tim pool
Just because I already know those people who are going to say, Luke's a conspiracy theorist, here's the article from NPR, China wants your data and may already have it.
Well, what data are you referring to?
Your DNA!
That's right.
As COVID cases began to rise a year ago, Chinese company contacted several US states and offered to set up testing labs.
As a byproduct, the Chinese firm Beijing Genomics Institute would likely gain access to the DNA of those tested.
You know, When I tell people that China's stealing your DNA, they go, OK, you're insane.
So I don't say it that way.
I say, do you see that NPR article, something about a Chinese company taking COVID tests to get the DNA out of it?
And that still sounds insane.
But don't worry.
I just show them the article and say, I don't know, man.
NPR is reporting it.
luke rudkowski
I have a different approach.
I say China's stealing your DNA.
The U.S.
government already has it and is weaponizing it and probably using it against you as we speak right now.
lara trump
So should I not have done the 23andMe?
luke rudkowski
No.
That information also is being found to be sold on the black market.
If something is free, you are the product.
So every little piece of information, their data mining, the NSA, the US government is collecting them in major servers.
And it's not just your DNA.
It's also the keystrokes.
It's also your heart rate.
It's also your biometric data that's being collected without your permission.
What are you pointing at?
tim pool
Pointing at your wrists.
luke rudkowski
Both of you.
But there's a specific strategy that you implement where you don't give your information off and you're someone like, you know, you're someone like a Ligma Johnson, right?
Instead of Luke Grodowski, this company now just has Ligma Johnson.
tim pool
Hold on, let me pause right there.
They don't care about Luke Grodkowski's vitals.
They care about the anonymized data.
When they say things like, we don't, we don't take your information, or they say like, we're gonna collect your information for diagnostic reasons, but we do not attach your identity to it, it will be randomized and no one will know who you are.
What they do, when they take your DNA, assuming they do, they don't care your name.
They're mapping populations.
They're mapping characteristics.
And because so many people have taken it upon themselves, even me, I'm wearing a Garmin watch, which tracks health.
They all do it now.
I actually, I like the benefits I get from it, but I recognize all of us are snowflakes in an avalanche.
When they collect all this data, they can collectively see detrimental health circumstances.
They can also formulate bioweapons using that data.
And they can say, and the AI knows all of this, people need to understand the depth of AI calculations.
They're going to say, we tracked all of the whoops and all the garments and all the smart watches in Florida when the smog from Canada came in and we saw a collective 7% decrease in blood oxygenation and a 23% increase in heart rate.
They are going to actually be able to map this stuff.
They're gonna see it was record temp- the temperature was 80 degrees.
They're gonna be able to look at every- every place on the planet that was recorded at 80 degrees, what were the heart rates of the average person.
That kind of data can be weaponized in very terrifying ways.
luke rudkowski
Especially with the Apple Watches.
Especially with tomorrow's 5G emergency test that's happening at 2.30 p.m.
Eastern Time.
Someone in the comment section also said something pretty funny.
Someone said 23 and CCP.
I know!
lara trump
That's over for me.
luke rudkowski
I don't know what I did.
The bioweapons are coming.
They're made just for you.
ian crossland
What's your ancestry?
I gotta know.
lara trump
Might as well get something out of it.
What's your guess?
What do you think?
ian crossland
Swedish.
lara trump
I am part Scandinavian, yes.
tim pool
I was gonna say, yeah, Swedish, but Scandinavian, that could be Norwegian, Danish.
lara trump
Well, they didn't get specific.
It was... Right, it shows the region.
Yeah, the region.
Eastern European, Scandinavian, and apparently England, Scotland.
luke rudkowski
Through your DNA data, you could also find out what kind of diseases and sicknesses you're more prevalent to get and what kind of drugs work for you and don't work for you based off your genetics as well.
We were talking about some of that very similar stuff with some of the friends that we know that also work in the health industry that are trying to revolutionize it.
But, you know, there's things that are just double-edged swords.
ian crossland
These things are two-way mirrors, man.
It's like the value of what you can learn through devices and tech like this, but then they're also learning it, they being whoever, but organizations are also learning your data.
lara trump
And we're so reliant on it.
Honestly, I think about when I was a kid and we didn't have all of this stuff and you used a map and you had to go somewhere and pick up a phone instead of having it in your pocket.
We're, we're so, so reliant on these, and if your phone dies for like an hour, you're like in a panic.
It is, it's terrifying to think of.
tim pool
Remember not knowing?
lara trump
Yes!
tim pool
Kids, kids today don't.
lara trump
They don't!
tim pool
Yeah, that's crazy.
lara trump
They never will.
ian crossland
It took so long to go to the bank.
tim pool
You'd ask your friend like, you know, who is that rapper who sang Gangster's Paradise?
Like, don't know.
lara trump
Do you know how long it took me to figure out songs when I would like recite them for people?
ian crossland
Try to tape them off the radio?
tim pool
Now you can pull up the Google app and you can sing to it and it will tell you the song.
Even if the lyrics are wrong.
ian crossland
I would wait weeks.
luke rudkowski
Or you could just hold your cell phone up and find out exactly what song it is.
tim pool
No, but I'm saying if you get a song stuck in your head and you're like, what is that song?
You can just go do do do do do do do and then it'll pop up and tell you what it is.
luke rudkowski
So people are correcting me in the chat.
It's not 2.30 p.m.
It's 2.20 p.m.
And there's a very interesting article from The Verge that's talking about how 23andMe already sold your rights to a drug development company that's working on a genetic database in order to, of course, provide you drugs in the future that you might need.
I don't take a lot of drugs.
ian crossland
What's this test that you're talking about?
This 5G test tomorrow?
luke rudkowski
So they're doing an emergency alert test with FEMA with all cell phones and communication devices using, I believe, 5G.
And then this has spurred a lot of people to bring out different theories of what's really happening here.
I think it's, you know, a test.
unidentified
It's a test.
luke rudkowski
But I don't want to be a part of it.
I don't want to participate in this kind of test.
I will.
And all the other devices.
lara trump
And both of your watches.
unidentified
All of them.
tim pool
You can't take your battery out anymore.
luke rudkowski
Yep, you can't.
You used to.
tim pool
So I remember, during Occupy Wall Street, after the big protests and, you know, I got featured in magazine stuff, I could not turn my phones off.
So I had an iPhone and an Android.
I used the Android as my actual phone and the iPhone was at a better camera and streamed higher quality.
iPhone's battery could not be removed, Android could.
Both phones could not be turned off.
If I turned them off, they would instantly turn back on.
So I took the battery out of the Android, but the iPhone would instantly turn back on no matter what I did.
ian crossland
I held on the Android 5 for so long because you could still take the battery out.
I just waited until the 9, and I couldn't take it anywhere.
It was so slow.
It became obsolete.
I'm reliant on the thing.
You're talking about reliance on this tech.
I don't know if this is real, but this guy, his name is Martin Peltier.
He's a Canadian dude.
M. Peltier.
Uh, CIO on Twitter.
He's got his, he's got these pictures of, screenshots of his Instagram, and it says, people in Canada can't see this content.
In response to Canadian government legislation, news content can't be viewed in Canada.
I don't, can't tell if it's real.
It's Breitbart, CNN.
tim pool
That's real.
ian crossland
So they're, people are becoming reliant on this tech, and then a government goes and like, cuts your artery to it, and like, how do you, how do you survive if they do that to you?
tim pool
The UK's next?
This is just Instagram, but if it's your bank, if it's your direction apps... There was that article saying they want to ban Rumble in the UK over Russell Brand.
ian crossland
Your phone?
If you just all of a sudden don't have communication technology?
That's a human rights violation.
tim pool
There's already stores where you walk in and they say, credit only, card only, no cash.
And we're talking about Neuralink and the metaverse and stuff like that.
And there's all these conservers like, I'll never do it, I won't do it.
And I'm like, yeah, you will.
I mean, no, no, maybe you won't, but I'm saying society will.
Why?
Because you're going to walk into Taco Bell, and you're going to go up to the kiosk, there's no human beings, and you're going to be like, you know, cheesy gordita crunch, cheesy gordita crunch, cheesy gordita crunch, extra, extra sauce, and pay, and then it's going to say, neural pay.
And you're going to be like, uh, where do I put my card?
Where do I tap my card?
And it's going to be like, we no longer accept cards.
Neural pay only.
luke rudkowski
And you're gonna be like... You'll be like, focus third eye here, and it'll show, like, the red glow, and you'll be like... What they're implementing, they already tested and are using currently in China right now, especially with their social credit score, where people have their face scanned, and if they have the wrong political thoughts and ideas, they can't buy groceries.
They can't travel on high-speed train.
They can't get high-speed internet.
They can't, of course, get their kids into the proper schools, and that, of course, keeps society in line and obeying governments and not questioning them as of course many journalists many activists have been hit with a poor social credit score and in America we already have a very similar system that's not really talked about it's a corporate social credit score as of course a lot of your data is being harvested a lot of your data is being sold and your thoughts and expressions are also being judged very heavily and you just don't know about it yet and it hasn't been fully implemented but the databases the systems in order to fully roll this out are there
And I think they're just going to slowly and surely get us used to these ideas and then implement it all for our safety and our well-being.
And in reality, it's something that is draconian, technocratic, and meant to destroy human civilization.
ian crossland
Jeez.
Yeah, I'm tired of the, I'm doing this for your own good.
Like, that's obviously, that's, when someone says that to you in a movie, you know that the character's lying if they say that to someone in a movie.
So, like, people are trying to do this, like, you want to cut down my access to carbon for my own good?
tim pool
Have you guys seen the new Disney movie?
unidentified
Which one is this?
tim pool
I found out it was like Wish or something, I forgot what it's called, where it's the king has magic powers and can grant wishes, but he only grants certain wishes that he thinks will help the country, and then this young girl discovers the ability to grant wishes, and then she's like, we've gotta grant everyone's wish, and the king's like, someone's coming for my power, and it's just like, It's so obviously an attack on capitalist meritocracy.
You can't just grant everyone's wishes, but the communists are like, yes, we can.
ian crossland
They really can.
They play on your desire to free the slaves.
That's what that sounds like, is a movie about freeing the slaves.
Give everyone the road to perdition.
Is that the right word?
Perdition?
But in reality, giving everyone ultimate control is not... We're slaves to reality.
If we all had fusion packs, One of those monkeys is gonna drop it on the ground and blow everything up.
So we gotta be, maybe not fusion, fission packs, if we all have fission packs.
So we gotta, you gotta limit people.
This is a long conversation.
tim pool
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We got NoahSanders.Q saying, First, Tim, will Elite and VIP members have preferred seating at the live show in Miami?
I'm working on that.
Ideally, yes.
Uh, that's, I think for Elite members, especially, Yes, but again, I'm not organizing the event.
Our company is, and there's people who are in charge of it, and there's a lot of paperwork and stuff, so let me sort that out, and we'll get back to you guys on the Discord.
Alright.
FixBayonets says, Gates should nominate Mark Levin.
Okay.
Alright, well Donald Trump's in the running.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Tim, Marjorie Taylor Greene's words were hold the line BS.
Let's just stand here so they can beat us back.
Gates, on the other hand, is forwarding the line.
He made the aggressive bet to see if they got balls and he won.
Seriously.
Really, I think he's doing a great job, man.
Let's see what we got.
Let's see what we got.
Big7588 says, Police already abused the 5150 hold.
Do not use it for drug addiction.
Well, what's the alternative?
Right?
What are we supposed to do about the violent drug addicts in San Francisco and all throughout California that we're seeing in New York?
If someone is mentally unstable, what do we do?
Just lock them up?
lara trump
It's a tough question.
I don't, I mean, I don't have a great answer.
But we have to do something.
You can't just, I mean, look at what, look at the result right now.
Take a look around.
Does it seem like things are great?
tim pool
They, we used to have mental institutions.
lara trump
Yeah.
tim pool
Now, we just have people, open-air drug markets, drug abuse.
Philly has that, I forgot what they're calling it, where it's just like, you see this open-air drug market of people zombying around.
You've got Skid Row, you've got San Francisco now.
It's, it's everywhere.
I think you have to get people off the streets if they're on drugs and incapable of taking care of themselves.
I don't know what the answer is.
Probably not.
But that was the argument I was making earlier, that's why he's saying no to 5150s.
ian crossland
I assume that they tried the jail thing before and it was just too inhumane, so they were like, we need better conditioned jails, institutions.
And then they were like, well that's not even humane.
But then Vivek's big on this.
He's saying we need to reopen institutions, but we need to make them actually good and clean and give them access to technology like webcams so they can talk to their families and stuff while they're there.
tim pool
All right, here's one for Lara.
T-Rex Pet Shop asks, why did Donald Trump defend McCarthy and the establishment?
That's one thing we criticize him for.
Why doesn't he listen to us?
Also, he's asking, do you have pets?
We are an anti-woke alternative to Woke, Chewy, PetSmart, and Petco from T-Rex Pet Shop.
lara trump
Oh.
I love that.
I have three dogs.
I have a beagle, a hound mix, and a miniature yorkie.
So yeah, we'll check that out.
Thank you.
Why did he defend McCarthy?
Well, I think if you look back, McCarthy has been actually an ally of my father-in-law's while he was in the White House.
I don't know today what he has said about it.
It sounds like he actually said that he thought what happened was rather positive and gave kudos to Matt Gaetz.
So I don't know.
I would have to check with him on exactly where he stands on that right now.
tim pool
Yeah, I think he said something, I'm not sure, I didn't see the video, but someone said that recently Trump said, I've got nothing bad to say about him, he's always been nice to me, or something to that effect.
And it's like, oh, whatever.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's always gotta divide, criticizing the man himself, and he seems like a pretty cool guy, with his actions in the role.
luke rudkowski
He also accrued today that the Republicans shouldn't be fighting each other, but they should be fighting the radical left.
tim pool
Well, we got this one from Lode200 saying, Matt Gaetz doesn't have the balls to run for Speaker of the House.
Matt Gaetz just gave the Democratic Party a win.
Thanks, no, for nothing, Gaetz.
Thanks for nothing, Gaetz.
I think Gaetz did the right thing.
ian crossland
There are a lot of people that share that sentiment.
That was the no votes.
tim pool
So, Kevin McCarthy is doing deals with Democrats in defiance of what the Republican Party actually was negotiating on.
Then you don't have, the Republicans don't have a majority.
ian crossland
You have a Democrat.
I think Matt, he had to do the machine.
He had to become the machine for a moment.
I don't think he's like happy in any way about this.
tim pool
Who did McCarthy?
unidentified
Matt.
ian crossland
No, Gates.
Matt Gates.
tim pool
Matt's not, what do you mean become the machine?
ian crossland
He's doing what needs to be done mechanically for the situation.
He knows that, it's like, speaker does not comply, speaker must go.
And everyone else is like, hey, it's not a video game, it's not a math problem, there's more to it.
And he's like, speaker did not comply, speaker must go.
And it's like, in some ways- Right, he's making the hard decisions.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yep.
ian crossland
And there's value to that.
there's value to people that are able to do that to set aside their desires and to make the
those hard decisions.
tim pool
Ribbian Creek says Tulsi for speaker. She's an independent now.
Yeah, maybe.
I think, considering nobody wants it, a Democrat's not going to get it.
Republicans might have to find an outside speaker.
Like, I know the Donald Trump thing is funny, but he's running for president, so I don't think he would do it.
They might need to find someone, former member of Congress, who would... It's not a bad idea.
luke rudkowski
I like Dr. No better.
Ron Paul.
I think he would be the perfect candidate for the... Just bring Ron back.
He always voted no on everything.
tim pool
All right.
Zach says, Tim, I'm a vet and would lose $2,000 a month.
It would be tough, but worth it.
Let's go, Matt Gaetz.
luke rudkowski
Wow.
tim pool
Right on, man.
I hear you.
I know not everybody in a similar position could agree with that.
You know, people who need those benefits.
That's why it's tough.
ian crossland
Yeah, like what percentage of your net income or net wealth is $2,000?
Because sometimes if it's only a drop in the bucket for you, it's understandable.
If it's 95% of your income, then that could be a different story.
But I'm with you, man.
tim pool
Alright, we'll grab some more Super Chats.
What do we got?
Saddle F-ing Tramp says, McCarthy is facing the consequences of his actions as Speaker.
He thought once he was in, business as usual, Matt Gaetz held him accountable for once.
I appreciate it, man.
And then, uh, Mr. Buzzkill says, I nominate Ron Paul as sacrifice.
luke rudkowski
There you go.
tim pool
As tribute.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
What do we got?
Violet Gray says, stop saying vet pay is affected.
It isn't.
I am not talking literally about right now.
I'm saying one of the things Matt Gaetz brought up was that this, I mean, and Kevin McCarthy said this as well, payment for the troops and veterans benefits.
So Matt said one of the first things they did when it was all going down was making sure they had a single subject spending bill for veteran benefits.
Terrence Mack says Vivek Ramaswamy for House Speaker.
Everybody who's in politics right now, especially those running for president, are not going to take a position like this.
ian crossland
Do you need to be non-partisan?
Are they supposed to be non-partisan?
tim pool
Who are people suggesting, like Justin Amash or something?
And I'm like, he'll get removed in two seconds again.
lara trump
I don't think you need to be nonpartisan.
I think they've all been.
I mean, it's, you know, no, I don't think Nancy Pelosi's nonpartisan.
ian crossland
No, they haven't been nonpartisan.
I'm wondering if they, if we got one, if that would, if they like literally didn't take sides, they just kind of spoke the will of the Congress.
lara trump
Isn't that impossible these days?
Yeah.
ian crossland
It's definitely idealistic.
tim pool
SirThinksalot says, Ukraine has every right to self-defense.
We have every interest in stopping hostile foreign powers.
We aren't sending Ukraine cash, we're sending equipment.
Equipment that we could use in our own country.
And we could be using our resources, whatever they may be, equipment or otherwise, to, I don't know, secure our southern border.
And worry about what Americans are worrying about.
How about this?
Ukraine certainly has a right to self-defense.
Good luck Ukraine, I wish you the best.
How about we take those resources and, I don't know, like fix our roads, our bridges.
Right now in West Virginia, they shut down 340 for rockslide abatement.
And it's causing a major crisis.
For like the locals.
It's not like a national crisis.
But now the roads around this highway are being torn up and destroyed.
Why don't we invest back in our infrastructure, which is in serious trouble?
ian crossland
Yeah.
Bitumen.
tim pool
And good luck to Ukraine, man.
I wish you the best.
It's unfortunate, you know?
I don't see what the argument is here.
ian crossland
There are a lot—this is a little tangential—a lot of good technologies to make better roads, but I think the planned obsolescence is profitable for the machine that builds them, so they just keep using asphalt.
I can't tell, but you could, like, put graphene—I mean— Here we go!
Take a shot!
It's getting hot.
lara trump
Wow.
tim pool
Scott Braconier says, but Tim still won't speak about defending Israel.
They get $880 billion a year.
Let's have a real chat, Tim.
I am particularly annoyed by the people who are obsessed with Israel for some reason, which is one of the issues, but we'll talk about that all the time.
We've done full segments talking about the various spending that the U.S.
has given overseas, and we've talked about wasteful spending in the Middle East, and Vivek Ramaswamy was roasted for talking about how he wanted to get Israel to the point where they could defend themselves.
What's the point?
My issue often with people who talk about Israel is like, they do these non sequiturs to force you to talk about Israel and it's so annoying.
They'll, like...
I'll keep it vague but in the past there'd be people like in a chat room and they'd say something like hey did you guys try this new pizza restaurant that opened in Brooklyn and this is actually I'm talking about I'm being it I'm being vague but this is a directly related to to the work that I'm doing and then someone would be like yeah it was really good you know I've had pizza all over the world really we're at Israel you know the thing about Israel is and then I'm just like you know what dude There are people who are so desperate and obsessed with just Israel, and I'm like, I get it, man.
But the bigger issue I'm talking about is all foreign policy and all foreign spending.
I'm not focused on one country.
We're talking about Ukraine because Ukraine is the thing they're voting on and funding right now.
But yes, I agree.
I think we should reassess a lot of this.
That being said, when Donald Trump was in office, we had the Abraham Accords, historic peace agreements.
You actually had commerce from Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, into Israel?
Amazing.
unidentified
Wow.
lara trump
I know.
Thanks, Donald Trump.
tim pool
Yeah, seriously, so why don't we... That seems like a solution to the problems.
If no one's fighting, then maybe we don't need to waste money anymore.
And then all these leftists were like, yeah, Trump just bribed them.
I'm like, well, look at this!
Offer money and say, the economic incentives for you to stop fighting are tremendous.
If you guys are not in conflict, you're going to be super rich.
And then fighting stops?
I'll take it.
lara trump
No new wars under Donald Trump, I'll say that.
luke rudkowski
For me, just stop all foreign funding.
Like, why are we giving other people money?
We have a lot of problems at home.
Give it back to the American people.
ian crossland
It's to ensure that they spend it, so they keep using the petrodollar.
tim pool
That's why they gave the gender studies money in Pakistan.
ian crossland
At least that's one reason.
tim pool
It's a big reason.
They give our money out so that people are like, I got money, I can use it.
And then they spend it.
It's to build confidence in the petrodollar, to challenge BRICS and all that stuff.
Like, what a stupid idea.
Dilute the savings of the American people.
And the argument is, yeah, but then our economy, which produces nothing, is propped up.
Based on the fact that other people use our money, and it's just like, how about we bring manufacturing back and we do some work?
Secure our borders, bring back jobs.
I'm sure people would rather, in West Virginia, make cars instead of sitting around gambling and doing opioids.
ian crossland
Dude, we're gonna build a space elevator.
On the moon.
lara trump
You're saying- Out of graphite?
ian crossland
Yeah, graphene.
lara trump
Graphene, sorry.
ian crossland
Graphene's when it becomes a hexagonal lattice.
It looks like a honeycomb.
Yeah, it's awesome.
I'll show you a picture of it later.
Or maybe we can pull one up.
I don't think Tim will.
tim pool
Megaglave says politicians who vote for bills they don't have time to read should be impeached for violating their oath to office.
They have a duty to verify that the bill is constitutional and they cannot do this if they don't know what is in it.
What is in it.
I completely agree.
But that's not the world that we live in right now.
luke rudkowski
Matt Gaetz was talking about that today, saying we need to read the bills.
We need to understand what we're passing.
They don't.
They just literally put their stamp on approval.
tim pool
Well we had, when Marjorie Taylor Greene was on the show, she talks about how There's like eight Republicans and eight Democrats and some guy, she doesn't, she comes into Congress and she sees like eight Democrats, eight Republicans and some guy in the Speaker's position, she doesn't know who it is, and he's just like, here's a bill.
Eh, okay, it's passed.
Here's another bill.
Eh, no, then it's not.
ian crossland
Let's have it for the yeas and the nays, and then they just do it by sound.
tim pool
And then they just go, sure, it's passed.
luke rudkowski
No, they have a voting system.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Marjorie said the majority of bills, it is only eight of each from the party, no one's there, they're all on fundraising phone calls, and someone who is not the speaker is reading off the bills, and they just go whatever, and then what she started doing with the Freedom Caucus was as soon as they would go, here's a bill, meh, floor vote, and then have to call every member of Congress back in to actually vote on it.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, and she was describing how everyone was really mad at her because they had to actually go on the house floor.
tim pool
And that's why, that's why they removed her committee positions and assignments because they're like, we don't want to do work.
lara trump
Wow.
tim pool
Yep.
lara trump
Nice.
ian crossland
I'd like to see a felony that they should, under oath, testify that they read the bills before you even have a right to vote on it, and then a felony if they violate them.
lara trump
So how do we change it, though?
You know, like, what's the plan?
ian crossland
We could do a convention of states, but that can become dangerous because other people could do it and change the Constitution without Congress's authority.
Otherwise, we could try and get them to do it to themselves.
tim pool
A convention of states will still require voting on proposed amendments, and the risk is the states may agree to amend the Constitution, but you don't know how the states will actually vote to amend the Constitution.
Because that's where things get more specific.
There's fears that they could take away the right to keep and bear arms or something like that.
I'm not concerned about that.
If Republican states have the majority and call a convention of states, which they're relatively close and might happen, I'm confident that the amendments would probably be okay.
They can add to the Second Amendment, or how about, what are we on, 27?
Was it the 28th?
I don't know.
We can add an amendment being like, just to reiterate, when we said you have a right to keep and bear arms, we mean all, at any point, any accessory, any amount of ammunition.
The Founding Fathers had private warships, so, uh, we're good.
They can do something like that.
Or, I mean, honestly, how would y'all feel if they amended the Constitution to say the right to keep and bear arms is universal except in the instance of biological and nuclear weapons?
lara trump
That's fair.
Let's not have those.
luke rudkowski
I want my nuclear weapons.
tim pool
That's an interesting question, because private companies are the ones that make them.
luke rudkowski
Exactly.
tim pool
And so, you know, I've had this argument about people have a right, I said people have a right to keep in bear biological and nuclear weapons, and I got all these progressives screaming, like, Tim's nuts, he's insane, and I'm like, who do you think makes them?
Do you think that, like, a government agency makes these weapons?
They don't.
It is the military-industrial complex like, you know, Lockheed Martin and Raytheon.
These companies are making nuclear weapons for the government, which means they're privately owned.
That's always how it's been.
luke rudkowski
Yep, and selling the technology to other countries as well.
tim pool
Yeah, you gotta love it, don't ya?
Dick Dickerson says Malice first speaker.
Yes, obviously, but come on.
I don't think he would take it and no one's going to nominate him.
Although that would be absolutely fantastic.
ian crossland
I think the longer we go without a speaker, the more chance of a radical populist to get put in from outside the system like Oprah or whoever, but someone famous that'll just be like, Brad Pitt, he walks in and everyone's like, ah!
If it gets to a point where people become desperate to get house speakers.
tim pool
The Life of Die says, gag orders are anti-First Amendment.
People are allowed to say whatever they want.
Don't like it?
Change the Constitution.
That is interesting.
I've been involved in lawsuits before.
I assume you probably have, most people, to a certain degree, depending on the business you're in.
But gag orders are fairly common.
And I'm not super opposed to it.
The challenge I find is that when Depending on the court you're in, you may end up with a judge being like, okay, both parties, there's a gag order, you can't disparage each other, one party will do it and the judge will do nothing about it.
So often what we see is, hey, don't you do this thing, your opposition does it, and then you're like, hey, they're doing it, and they're like, yeah, it's whatever, who cares.
And I'm like, so should I do it?
No, don't you dare!
And I'm like, so we break the rules or what?
That's the problem I have with it.
The judge has cameras in the courtroom.
The judge is like, I'm gonna do whatever I want.
He's gonna laugh and smile for the camera and say, Trump better not talk about it.
He better not criticize my staff for their political biases.
ian crossland
Somebody, it might have been Mark Twain quote, said that it's better to just break, just to do the, I don't want to get this quote wrong, but it's better to like apologize for breaking the rule than to ask if you can break the rule.
tim pool
It's better to apologize.
lara trump
Ask for forgiveness than permission.
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
Yeah, I despise that.
unidentified
Me too.
ian crossland
I don't like that, just that sociological pattern, what that could create.
I don't like that.
tim pool
Yeah.
No, I definitely do not agree with that.
I understand the advantages to doing something and then being like whoopsie-daisy after the fact, but when you're running a company and you have a lot of people who have that ethos of I'll just do it and ask for forgiveness later, I'm like... That doesn't work very well.
Nope!
lara trump
No.
tim pool
Hey, there's like a reason why we said not to do this thing.
You went and did it and now the house is on fire.
It's like, so yeah.
lara trump
Well, then you could not forgive them.
You could choose not to forgive them.
You know, I mean, I think part of the problem these days, everybody, so these kids, honestly, the upcoming generations, I'm really terrified about.
They're so soft.
There's no punishment.
I mean, the way that kids are raised today is so, so different than the way I was raised.
I mean, it is, I'm really wondering if anyone will have any work ethic At all.
They'll have any sort of direction as to what they want to do in life.
Everybody's just like a free-for-all of just coddling and it's honestly scary.
I agree.
Maybe you ask for forgiveness and you don't get it.
tim pool
Yeah, I think the issue is there are some circumstances where you don't need to ask for permission, and there are some circumstances where you do.
And if too many people have this idea that I'm not going to ask for permission to do a thing that could potentially negatively impact people, it's like, well, now you're creating serious risks for others.
But if it's an issue of, like, a benign victimless thing of
I don't know if this road is open or not, I'm just gonna go down it, we'll see what happens.
Like, okay, well, the guy, don't do it again.
ian crossland
Yeah, but if it's like, I'm just gonna drink the milk, I don't know whose it is.
Don't do that.
I grew up with a brother that did that, it's so annoying.
tim pool
This ethos is like, you open the fridge at work and you see a delicious ham sandwich that says,
you know, JF.
You're like, don't know what that means, but I'll just ask JF for forgiveness after I eat his lunch.
And then the guy walks in, and it's John Fetterman, and he's like, yo, you ate my, uh, what?
And then you're like, well, he can't ever articulate his anger anyway, so now I don't gotta apologize.
ian crossland
What do you think about mass pardons as a political tactic?
Oh, well, in I mean, for all everyone, Hillary, Joe, Hunter, Donald, everyone in prison for J six, we could even go deep, deep, deep, something that would benefit both sides or all sides.
lara trump
Well, I mean, I think that my father-in-law has said that he probably would take care of the January 6th folks.
I mean, he's going to do something to rectify the abuses that these people have suffered.
It's really insane.
tim pool
Ian's talking about pardoning Hunter Biden.
lara trump
Well, I mean, that's a tactic to consider for sure, because then you just level it all and you just say, enough with this.
Can we just focus on actually what people care about, which is getting this country back in order?
tim pool
I can understand the point Ian's making.
I'm not for it, but I can understand the idea being you go to them and say, stop fighting us.
We are taking over.
Trump will be president.
We're not going to imprison you.
And now the conflict is done.
And the idea is right now they're leveling everything they have at Trump and Trump supporters in panic and desperation.
And if Trump went and said, you guys leave right now...
No more attacks on us, and when I'm president, we won't lock you up for the rest of your lives.
You'll get to be rich and be comfortable, but we're done.
We're in charge now.
They might actually back down.
I don't think they will, is the issue.
lara trump
The problem too is, you know, when you look at what is pretty obviously going on with the Bidens, it's really a national security issue at a certain point.
I mean, how do you know that the decisions Joe Biden is making in the White House, and we know that that is, I mean, We're being very kind by saying he's making decisions in the White House, he can barely string a sentence together, are based on what he thinks is best for the country and not what's best for the Biden pockets.
You know what I mean?
And so I think if what is being implied has happened with Joe and Hunter Biden, I mean, really selling this country out, that is a really Awful place to find ourselves in the United States.
And man, we never want to go back there.
So we better take care of that problem.
And I don't know if you want to just let that one sail off into the sunset unchecked.
That doesn't feel right to me.
tim pool
Right.
I think we are a nation of laws.
And for too long there's been no accountability.
What they're doing, the more they do it, just shows we need to weed out the corruption through a legal process.
There needs to be legitimate investigations, indictments, and charges.
ian crossland
I would love it, but it's like we investigated ourselves.
We found we did nothing wrong.
tim pool
That's not it.
Donald Trump getting in office is not investigating ourselves.
It's him saying, look at what you were doing when you were in power and investigating.
Look at the Steele dossier.
lara trump
I was going to say, what about the FBI?
What about the CIA?
What about the DOJ itself?
Like, if we just kind of say, we're going to just call it even here, we've got to get to the heart of this.
I mean, this stuff is so corrupt.
It is so rotten at the core to know that the CIA and the FBI have now meddled in two presidential elections.
We know that.
We can't just kind of turn around and be like, let's call it even.
I feel like, I know, so my answer is no.
ian crossland
I think of it as like a hostage negotiation kind of at this point because I'm tired of seeing everybody.
lara trump
Yeah.
ian crossland
It's just so exhausting and it is as five trillion has been printed and it's still really it's still Joe Biden versus Donald Trump.
I'm getting tired of that you guys like we got to solve this if we're going to survive.
tim pool
We got Raybert G. Standbert Jr.
saying, I swear, one day graphene will be a common material used all around the world, and Ian will be the old man screaming, you all called me crazy!
Waving his fist at the young people on their graphene hoverboards.
lara trump
Ian, how much did you pay him to write that?
unidentified
I wrote that.
ian crossland
That's my super chat.
No, just kidding.
What'll happen is I'll tell everyone I told you so once, but then you gotta be humble.
And not be like, I'm the one that told everyone to do it.
tim pool
You gotta be humble.
Listen, listen.
Ian's going to have a gigantic 10-story tall vault where he will climb to the top, it'll be full of gold coins, and he will dive into it and swim around because he's invested in graphene stock.
ian crossland
I want it to be free for people.
tim pool
I'll be honest, when Ian started screaming about graphene, I bought stock in a company that manufactures graphene products, and it's one of the only stocks that I have that's continually performed positively.
unidentified
Oh!
ian crossland
It's 2029, you're gonna speak.
lara trump
I need to investigate this when I leave here.
tim pool
Everything about it!
All I know is I Googled company that makes graphene, and it's like, here's the company, and then I'm like, I'm up!
Everything else is bad!
ian crossland
I was in Chile in 2018 working on starting a graphene company with this Chilean billionaire, and all he wanted was, how much money are you going to make?
I'm like, that's not why I'm doing this, dude.
And then in our research, we saw in 2029, you're going to start to see peak graphene inflection, which is where society now starts to use it like normal.
So we still got a few more years to start investing, and I'm not giving investment advice.
lara trump
You've been in on this for a while, I see.
ian crossland
Yeah.
lara trump
Yeah.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Brian B says, I can't believe I agree with Ian.
We currently have reps representing all three rural suburbs and city in their district.
A republic can't protect the minority when rep survival depends on ignoring the minority for the majority.
Yeah, well, I don't know if more members of Congress makes it easier.
Probably makes it more difficult.
I don't know what you do.
I mean, honestly.
ian crossland
It makes it slower.
I don't know if that's worse.
tim pool
We got a big super chat from Seth Weathers.
He says, The world may be on fire, but you can still get conservative dads revenge.
The Trump Mugshot Limited Edition Beer Can.
See you in Miami.
Shout out to Seth Weathers.
Did you hear about that?
He sold, what was he about to hit, like two million dollars?
He launched a beer company called Conservative Dad's Ultra Right Beer because of Bud Light.
lara trump
Wow.
tim pool
And then they launched a limited edition Trump Mugshot can and he sold like half a million dollars in half a day.
lara trump
Wow.
ian crossland
Yeah.
lara trump
Love that.
tim pool
Yep.
lara trump
That's the beauty of America right there.
tim pool
Yeah, we made a graphic of Trump's mugshot, but like the Obama Hope poster.
And then we just told everybody they could have it.
It's like, we just made the art, we put it, it's free, it's not ours, we don't own it, it's just a mugshot.
And then people are making mugs or making stickers and posters, and it'll be really great.
You know, I remember when I was younger, when Obama was running, they had all those Hope posters everywhere.
It would just be so amazing to see in 2024 revenge everywhere, just Trump's mugshot in that art.
Revenge!
That's how a lot of Americans feel, man.
Thinker4Life says, uh oh, YouTube just jumped on us.
They always do that.
Alright, here we go.
Inserting Trump as speaker equals a triple benefit.
We'll get a jump on cleaning out the deep state.
The Dems in Congress with Trump derangement syndrome will short circuit and clear themselves out.
The witch hunt is diverting his time anyway.
Be on center stage as speaker.
While running, I guess.
I don't know, I think it'd be hilarious if we took it.
lara trump
It might be worth just seeing the reaction.
I would kind of, just to get, you know what I mean?
Could you imagine, like, of all people, I just remember, like, Rachel Maddow, after my father-in-law had won and he was officially president-elect, and she, the next time she was on TV, she was like, this is not a nightmare.
You are waking up, this is not a nightmare.
Imagine if he became Speaker of the House!
God, it would kind of be worth it.
tim pool
Do you remember when Mueller came out and said that the conclusion was Donald Trump did not collude with Russia, and she was on the verge of crying?
lara trump
Yes.
tim pool
These people are nuts!
I'm sitting there, I'm like, oh wow, look at that, Trump was innocent.
Hey, you know, the country moves forward, and they're like on the verge of tears, like, no!
He needs... They wanted it to be true.
That's insane, man.
lara trump
And then they dug so deep they found themselves.
tim pool
Yeah, there are a lot of people who have attached themselves to a political movement, and then when that movement starts faltering, they're panicked, like, I've dedicated too much to this, I can't turn around now.
ian crossland
Yeah, but it should be like the scientific method, where you want your experiment to fail.
You want to poke every possible hole in the thing until it fails, and then you scrap it and start a new process.
Same with your political party.
That's what it should be.
tim pool
Arthur Charles says, Lara, were you prepared to be on Nerdcast IRL?
Was it because you were talking about Star Trek and stuff?
lara trump
Oh, I don't know.
I've never really watched Star Trek.
I watched Star Wars.
ian crossland
What'd you think?
lara trump
I loved Star Wars.
I haven't watched all the new ones.
There's too many.
I watched the first three, the originals.
That's all I know.
But no, maybe I wasn't prepared.
Next time I'll watch a lot of Star Trek.
ian crossland
Do you guys talk a lot of sci-fi in the house?
lara trump
Not a lot.
Not necessarily.
Did you get that?
Did you think I was?
ian crossland
No, actually I thought you weren't.
But I wanted to ask because I didn't want to assume.
lara trump
No, not a lot of sci-fi.
tim pool
All right, Char Deets says, today was the first bravery from Republicans we've seen in years.
Everyone may not like it, but we need accountability.
I guess it was eight Republicans.
I said eleven earlier.
I was wrong.
I think it's eight.
And it's Democrat opportunists and eight Republicans willing to stand up and say no to the establishment.
ian crossland
In all fairness, there might be a lot of Democrats that also are tired of the establishment that voted to get him out.
tim pool
Yeah, but I don't think so.
ian crossland
Like Ilhan, she didn't matter pretty tight.
tim pool
I don't know, there was that photo everyone's sharing, did you see it, where she's like licking her lips and looking at Matt Gaetz and everyone's like captioning this.
lara trump
Oh, excuse me.
tim pool
I don't think she's actually looking at Matt Gaetz, she's probably just sitting there and someone caught an awkward photo.
luke rudkowski
Alright everybody, if you haven't... He's not her brother, okay?
tim pool
Okay.
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lara trump
Oh, sure, you can follow me at Laura Lee Trump on all of them, X if we're calling it that, Twitter, Instagram, and Truth.
Thank you.
luke rudkowski
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Thank you so much for coming on.
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And Ian Freeman of FreeTalk Live was, by the way, sentenced to eight years in jail yesterday.
I think that's pretty crazy.
For what?
Essentially selling Bitcoin without a license.
I'm just generalizing the case here.
Find out more about it and learn about this case on freekeen.com.
And yeah, I think it's outrageous that he was sentenced to eight years.
tim pool
You have a podcast or a show?
lara trump
I do, yes.
The Right View.
It's therightview.com.
You've heard of The View?
This is about 180 degrees in the opposite direction.
So we hope people get smarter watching it, not dumber.
ian crossland
When is it?
lara trump
It's three days a week, Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays.
ian crossland
What time?
lara trump
8 p.m.
ian crossland
Eastern?
lara trump
Yes.
Gosh, look at you, all over.
tim pool
I'm on it!
ian crossland
And when people follow you on Twitter, X, it's Laura Lee.
It's L-A-R-A-L-E-A.
lara trump
Which you found out the hard way.
ian crossland
Yes, I had to ask.
I'm still humiliated.
Thanks for coming, Laura.
It's great to meet you, man.
lara trump
Thank you, guys.
ian crossland
And thanks for letting me be weird, you guys.
I promise you in 15 years, graphing will be normalized.
I'm not going to be talking about it as much, and your machines will be a lot more lightweight.
luke rudkowski
Ian really came from a time-traveling machine, so he knows what he's saying.
ian crossland
When I look into the sky, I see the future bounce back at me, so let's keep it going.
unidentified
Splurge?
Yeah, I'm just hanging out here.
I'm ready for the after show when you guys are.
tim pool
All right, everybody, we will see you all over at TimCast.com in a couple minutes.
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