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Matt Gaetz has filed to remove Kevin McCarthy as Speaker of the House.
Oh boy, aren't we excited.
Apparently Kevin McCarthy cut a backroom deal with Democrats to get this continuing resolution through, and it's an insult to everybody who believes that we should be fixing the problems of the corruption in Congress and not just layering them on, but this is basically what's happening.
Matt Gaetz is trying to bring about an end to the Omnibus spending bills where they just put 5,000 pages, we're all spending the money, we're buying it all, vote yes or don't.
He wants to bring on single-subject spending.
Kevin McCarthy is basically playing games.
They're doing what all members of Congress always do, where they basically say, well, we'll just keep funding it the way it is, and we'll deal with these things later.
In response to Matt Gaetz threatening to remove Kevin McCarthy as Speaker of the House, or to file, they're trying to remove Matt Gaetz!
So it's getting pretty wild, and we'll see how this one plays out.
Donald Trump was in court today for his lawsuit.
He called the judge a rogue!
and we'll talk about that. Apparently they've dropped some of the claims against him,
but it is going to be fun. We are down here in Miami, so talking about Mar-a-Lago Trump and
how they're lying about the value of his properties will be a blast. And then, of course, we've got
Jamal Bowman over the weekend. He pulled a fire alarm and then he called everybody Nazis. Then
he said, no, I didn't call them Nazis. You can't call people Nazis. And then someone found a tweet
where he called Michael Knowles a Nazi. This is going to be very, very interesting. We've got a
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, it is an honor, we have Dave Rubin.
dave rubin
Mr. Florida Man.
tim pool
Mr. Florida Man.
dave rubin
Mr. Florida Man, that's right.
Welcome to the free state of Florida.
Tim, how do you feel?
tim pool
It's wet.
dave rubin
It's wet and it's good.
luke rudkowski
That's what she said.
dave rubin
You look moist and dewy from our humidity and our freedom.
It actually brings out the essence of people.
tim pool
The freedom is palpable.
dave rubin
It's pretty sweet, man.
I mean, I get it.
It's good in West Virginia.
I get it.
But come on.
It does not get better than this.
tim pool
I disagree.
dave rubin
What could possibly be better?
What could possibly be better than this place?
tim pool
Oh man, the mountains.
dave rubin
We don't have mountains here.
That is the one thing that I do concede on the Florida thing.
We're pretty flat still.
tim pool
I look out my window, I see mountains.
dave rubin
Mountains aren't bad.
We got freedom, we got water.
tim pool
We got freedom.
dave rubin
We got beaches.
tim pool
I'll give you the beaches and a little bit more freedom than we have.
You know, West Virginia's doing pretty good though.
We're fighting the good fight.
dave rubin
No, you guys are doing all right.
I got no problem with West Virginia, but I'm glad to see you here in the free state of Florida.
tim pool
This is going to be a blast.
It's going to be a good week.
So thanks for coming, man.
dave rubin
Yeah.
tim pool
And the other Florida man is here.
unidentified
Welcome back, beautiful and amazing human beings.
luke rudkowski
I am the Polish Florida man, and it is good to be back.
The Democrats can't tell the difference between a doorknob and a fire alarm while the Republicans are tearing each other to shreds.
And you love to see it.
You know the deal.
If you like the shirt that I'm wearing right now with Trump Tupac, you could get it on TheBestPoliticalShirts.com.
And since last being here, I got fully demonetized, so I launched a new business.
That is a vitamin health store on WeAreChange.shop.
I've been able to help a lot of people.
Check that out.
Ian, you look like you're also on a little personal health journey there.
You have a little sparkle in your eyes that you didn't before.
ian crossland
Thanks for noticing, bro.
luke rudkowski
How are you doing, man?
ian crossland
I feel great, man.
luke rudkowski
I'm 147.
ian crossland
I gained about 20 pounds over the process of the last two months, three, two and a half months or something.
Muscle and fat.
I feel great.
I smell different.
I stopped wearing deodorant.
luke rudkowski
There you go.
ian crossland
I'm searching for a new kind of deodorant.
dave rubin
Muscle and fat as opposed to what?
unidentified
Water?
ian crossland
I don't know what else is there.
dave rubin
Oh yeah, water.
luke rudkowski
Bones and skin.
dave rubin
Yeah, bones and skin.
Bones got a lot bigger.
unidentified
That's great.
ian crossland
My bones are huge.
unidentified
Yeah, that's good.
ian crossland
You gain water weights nuts.
luke rudkowski
You look great.
I'm serious.
Your transformation is something that could inspire a lot of people.
I see it.
I thank you for doing it.
unidentified
Awesome.
ian crossland
Well, I'm glad you noticed.
I got a question for the Florida man before we get going too far.
You know, like when a fish is in water, it's swimming.
It doesn't know it's in water.
It's just there.
When you're in Florida, do you know you're the Florida man?
dave rubin
Oh, I'm aware of it.
luke rudkowski
Absolutely.
It's in your veins.
It's genetic.
It's like autism.
You can't get rid of it.
It's here.
When you're in Florida, you are 100% Florida man.
The vibe is here, right?
dave rubin
You got to remember, I lived in L.A.
before this, so I was in enemy territory.
And especially during COVID, I'd be walking my dog Without a mask on and people would be yelling at me and yelling at my dog where here I walk around and I have my Florida hat and I keep a picture of me and DeSantis on my phone in case I get challenged by anybody like oh you're the new guy from Cali because they think you're a communist or something like don't worry I'm with this guy and it's just like everyone here is happy functional everything's working here there's no crime it's all good so you're always a winner.
luke rudkowski
There's business less taxes you have firearms that you could actually keep on you and defend yourself if you get attacked without You know, going to jail for the rest of your life, which is a big peace of mind for a lot of individuals.
tim pool
And we have a story, too.
dave rubin
We shoot.
tim pool
Yeah, and Ron said that.
Yeah.
We have a story we might get to that I talked about quite a bit earlier.
It was the prankster, they call him, in Virginia, where he's getting in people's faces, freaking them out, and then he got shot, and they lock up the victim who was shooting in self-defense.
Jury said it was self-defense.
They still put him in jail.
So we'll talk about this stuff, but let's jump into the first story.
We got big news, ladies and gentlemen, from the Washington Post.
Check it out.
Matt Gaetz files motion to oust Kevin McCarthy as House Speaker.
unidentified
Rep.
tim pool
Matt Gaetz introduced a resolution Monday evening to remove Kevin McCarthy from his seat, triggering an expected intraparty clash and setting up a showdown for the House to decide whether to depose McCarthy likely within 48 hours.
Gates and a handful of hard-right Republicans have repeatedly threatened to go after McCarthy's speakership if he relied on Democratic votes to pass any spending legislation, which happened Saturday after McCarthy could not get a majority of Republicans to support various proposals to fund the government with only GOP votes.
Using a motion to vacate, a single person can force the House to consider removing the Speaker.
McCarthy agreed to lowering the threshold to bringing the motion to win over enough support to become Speaker in January.
This one's going to be really interesting.
McCarthy's basically a Democrat at this point.
If he's now teaming up with Democrats for his spending bills and working against Republicans, the question though is, will Democrats now, seeing an opportunity, team up with Matt Gaetz to remove Kevin McCarthy?
luke rudkowski
Do you guys see what's going on Twitter right now?
Kevin McCarthy just tweeted, quote, bring it on.
Matt Gaetz retweeted him just a couple minutes ago and said, just did.
The drama is unfolding on Twitter in real time as this video is happening right now.
And it's very interesting to see what Matt Gaetz is doing here because I think, you know, the long-term strategy for Matt here is to probably become the next governor of this very beautiful, amazing state after Ron DeSantis leaves office in a few years.
And if he's going to leave in a fury of fireworks and just public outrages and storms, This is the way to do it.
This is the way to get your name out there.
And in our current kind of political sphere where outrage sells and controversy really is the lead, this is the way to get everyone's attention.
And I think he's doing a good job at it as, of course, this is an important issue.
He's making an important stand, even though it is Republicans fighting each other, which they usually do anyway.
dave rubin
I mean, we all knew this was gonna happen, right?
It took McCarthy, what, 15 votes to get the speakership in the first place?
So, like, it was all leading to this at some point.
I think most of us, and probably most of your viewers, are with Gates in spirit, of course.
Like, enough of the nonsense spending, enough of giving all the money away to Ukraine and everything else.
Like, we take care of our border.
But I hate to tell Matt Gates, even if this is just because he wants to be governor, the House always wins.
That's how this operates in Washington, right?
McCarthy will stick around, most likely.
And even if he doesn't, it's not going to be Gates as Speaker of the House.
And the machine just finds a way.
You got to give the devil his due.
We may not like it.
I certainly don't like it.
I don't think any of you guys like it.
But it finds a way.
That's why we always get into these shutdowns.
Frankly, I would be for the government shutting down right now and not coming back for a couple of years.
That would be fine with me.
But that's not what's going to happen, right?
They extend it for 45 days.
And 45 days from now, we'll all be pissed about something else.
And something else will happen.
But don't worry.
luke rudkowski
Republicans will bend over and bend the knee and take whatever globalist policy that they tell him to take and they'll implement it without even any kind of doubt.
Kevin McCarthy has been a lot different in his kind of reign ever since Tucker Carlson left Fox News.
And I think really there's something to note here when it came to Tucker Carlson and Fox News calling him out.
That whole entire pressure on him is totally gone, and since then we have seen a totally different Kevin McCarthy that really has been not in favor of the people and ruling in a way that hasn't been benefiting anyone but the ruling elites.
dave rubin
Isn't there something super weird happening here?
Because Trump backed McCarthy.
Gates is a Trump guy.
I saw the base guys going after Gates today because Trump is not, because Trump backed McCarthy.
So it really creates some really strange bedfellows, like the arrows start going in some really weird ways.
And then did you see Trump today after, uh, after the hearing that he did in, uh, where was that?
That was in New York, right?
After the hearing, he basically was like, well, I'm not going to go after McCarthy because he says nice things about me, which is, that's what everyone hates about Trump.
But I get it.
I get it.
He can say anything.
tim pool
I think they'll always love him.
Matt, this was during the fight for the speakership in the House.
Trump was for McCarthy, and Matt said no.
And Matt said he didn't care.
I think this shows Matt's principled.
I have tremendous respect for the work that he's doing.
It's about time somebody did it.
But to be completely honest, I'll just, I'll soften a bit of what you said, Dave.
You're right.
I mean, the machine finds a way.
You've got all these snakes, and Matt's trying his best.
I posted a picture of Sisyphus when he said, I'm trying to change DC.
And I'm not, you know, people got mad.
They were like, what's the alternative?
I'm like, I'm not saying he shouldn't do it.
I'm glad he's doing it, but he's pushing a boulder uphill, and it is a long way uphill.
I'm glad.
I'm glad he's doing what he's doing.
He's one of the most effective, one of the best politicians we have, if you can even say a politician is good, but he's pushing a boulder uphill.
dave rubin
Well, philosophically, what would you say?
I mean, I think if McCarthy was sitting here, he would say, hey, there's this giant swamp, there's this giant system.
I mean, I've interviewed him and talked about this.
I think he would say you can maybe get some incremental things, like the machine is so, the swamp and the deep state, it's so, there's so much there.
And they can almost never get anything done, right?
Like the Democrats are just pure evil and the Republicans are kind of just a little less evil.
So I think McCarthy's argument would be, in essence, it would be, hey, maybe we can do a little something, spend a little bit less or get a little money moved to the border or something.
And he, I think that's really what he's saying right now.
That would be a win where basically what you're saying is Gates is just trying, he's throwing the Hail Mary knowing there is no flying F chance that it's going to work.
But it is good if you're, Or actually auditioning for another job.
By the way, I don't think it's necessarily just Governor.
I think he may just want a spot on network TV.
tim pool
I don't think he wants to be Governor.
I would imagine that he probably, if there was future ambitions, Senate, makes more sense.
Governor brings him to the state where he's in D.C.
right now, right?
So that's a shift you wouldn't want to take, right?
dave rubin
Well, if he likes being in Florida, I mean, he is a Florida guy.
If he likes being in Florida, why not come home to Florida?
I mean, D.C.
unidentified
is an absolute disgusting cesspool of scum and villainy.
tim pool
I wouldn't immediately say it's just about, uh, a job prospect.
They're trying to remove him.
They're threatening to expel Matt Gaetz for what he's doing.
ian crossland
I wonder if this is why Thomas Massey tweeted out, this is like yesterday, um, he, I fear, this is a quote tweet from Thomas Massey, I fear the attempted, uh, attempting to vacate Speaker McCarthy at this juncture is a bad idea that will lead to worse outcomes for conservatives.
Signed, the only still serving co-author and co-sponsor of the motion to vacate Speaker Boehner.
So he, he went through this before, apparently, Yeah, but didn't he back McCarthy anyway?
Thomas Massey?
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
I don't know.
tim pool
Pretty sure he did.
dave rubin
Well, I think they did at the end, but they did, him and Chip Roy ended up getting a bunch of concessions that I think now Gates is saying, well, you guys aren't actually getting the concessions at him.
But Massey, to me, Massey is the most libertarian, anti-government guy we have in government.
You know, Rand Paul's right there too, but in the House.
And it's like, if that's what he's saying, there's probably, he knows something behind the scenes.
ian crossland
I wonder if he's afraid of what's happening to Gates, that they're going to now turn on Gates, and he's like, we don't need inter-party conflict right now because the Democratic Party is trouncing us.
tim pool
Intra-party.
ian crossland
Intra-party.
dave rubin
Right, you don't need Gates getting any friendlier with AOC, which every now and again they kind of dig each other.
tim pool
But I'll appreciate, I mean, they were trying to stop insider trading in Congress.
Okay, I'll take it.
Take our wins where we can.
Otherwise what?
Kevin McCarthy has a backroom deal to get funding for Ukraine?
I cannot believe that if you... I'd be willing to bet, if you went and just talked to random people on the street, should we spend money on Ukraine, they're gonna say no.
Mostly.
A lot of people will probably say yes, you know, of course.
And depending on which city you go to, they're gonna have flags everywhere, they'll say yes.
But I think a genuine random sampling of a million people in this country finds 70, 80, 90% saying no.
Why would we do that?
But of course Congress will do it, why?
Because Congress is not beholden to the American people, they're beholden to lobbyists.
dave rubin
Hey, as Mitch McConnell said, the number one job of the Republican Party is to fund the Ukraine war, the war that we're also not in.
At some point, do you think if you're giving hundreds of billions of dollars to fund a war, you're in a war?
ian crossland
Yeah.
dave rubin
Would that be a technical way you'd say you're in a war?
Yes, I agree.
You know, like eventually, if you're funding everything and also, by the way, pushing the guy with nukes a little closer to World War Three, I mean, which really is what they're doing, right?
Like at the end of the day, you could say Russia's losing and losing and losing, which they're not, by the way.
But you could say that.
And at the end of the day, When the guy, when the shit is about to hit the fan, he has nukes.
So who really is winning?
tim pool
And we're talking about his doorstep.
Yeah.
They've not given any legitimate reason to us as to why we're involved in Ukraine.
They've not even tried to.
Now, Kevin McCarthy goes and makes a backroom deal with Democrats, ignoring the Republicans, who he's supposed to be working with, to get funding for Ukraine.
Wasn't it, uh, am I wrong about this?
They put together a clean bill, but it didn't have Ukraine spending in it, and they're like, no!
Democrats were like, we refuse!
dave rubin
I mean, the fact that the Democrats have become so clearly the war party is just such a perfect example of when I say that the machine always stays ahead, that's how it always stays ahead, because somehow the parties flip in front of your eyes.
The liberals become conservatives and the conservatives become liberals.
The machine figures out a way to just exist and continue.
ian crossland
Do you think the people are voting because they're afraid of Putin or because they're just bought?
dave rubin
Oh, you mean our congressmen?
I don't think our congressmen are afraid of Putin.
Like, maybe Putin's got some dish on who's, like, banging who and who's doing coke and hookers and all that stuff.
But I think it's they figure, one way or another, they get these people basically to betray the United States.
And then you also have to remember, guys, like we have such a nation of people
who are not paying attention in any way whatsoever because they're addicted to pills or porn or whatever
or just distracted or don't care or they're scrolling this thing all day
or playing video games all day that it's just easy to just keep the machine in operation.
It's actually not that difficult.
We can all talk about it, but it's not that difficult
to keep a bunch of people stupid.
tim pool
But I do think we are seeing a generational shift.
A lot of it has to do with Ron Paul.
That's how you end up with people like Matt Gaetz because where Ron Paul was Dr. No, he's in Congress.
He's saying, no, no, no, why are we doing this?
Very few people cared.
Then he runs 2008, creates a movement on the internet, a lot of young people grew up understanding and hearing what he had to say.
And a lot of these young people shouldn't have heard it at all if the machine had its way.
So I do think there's a strong possibility, and the culture war is a component of this, What the quote-unquote right is in the culture war is basically people who are inspired by the ideas of freedom, liberty, individuality, etc.
And now you're looking at a deep state, a bureaucratic state, desperate to stop a freedom movement of some sort.
luke rudkowski
It's pretty clear that people aren't being represented in Congress, that people are disenfranchised, people are pissed off, the price of everything is going up, and these politicians are getting richer and richer every single year that they're in public office when they're supposed to be taking political salaries, but they're millionaires somehow.
How did that happen?
Because they're selling you out.
They're selling your country out.
And you were right, Tim, especially about Ron Paul.
He started, of course, the original Tea Party.
The original Tea Party was hijacked.
But the original Tea Party sowed the seeds for Occupy Wall Street.
Occupy Wall Street brought a lot of people together.
Then, of course, it was also co-opted.
But after Occupy Wall Street, we saw a huge shift.
It's a shift, especially in the media narratives, especially in the divide and conquer kind of arena.
And now we're really reaching a point where people are like, I'm sick of politics.
I hate politicians.
None of these people represent me.
The Republicans are just as bad as the Democrats.
The Democrats are just as bad as the Republicans.
It's a uniparty screwing you over.
And I think a lot of people are realizing it.
And that's why Kevin McCarthy, I think, is more popular than ever.
Kevin McCarthy or Matt Gaetz?
Sorry, excuse me.
Matt Gaetz is more popular than ever.
ian crossland
They both are, to be honest.
luke rudkowski
I apologize for that, but I got the tweets pulled up here and that's why I'm mixing words here, but Matt Gaetz is more popular than ever for a reason, and there's a reason we reacted to this news the way we did, because it does kind of represent a sentiment of people just being disenfranchised and pissed off.
dave rubin
I think one other thing related to Gates, putting aside governor or whether he wants a TV host, someone is going to have to be the heir apparent to MAGA at some point, right?
Whether it's because of indictments or Trump literally falls down the stairs or just goes out into the sunset or falls up the stairs, right?
Exactly.
But whatever that thing is, when Trump is no longer involved in this whole thing, someone has to take that thing.
And it seems like Gaetz is basically saying, hey, I'll be the guy to do that.
Again, it's kind of weird because Trump backed McCarthy and refuses to say anything bad about him.
And then the Trump people were going after Gaetz today.
And that's what also makes politics so infuriating, right?
tim pool
But Trump's just the avatar of the anger.
He's captured.
dave rubin
So somebody's at.
So take the anger.
tim pool
So when Trump backs Fauci, when Trump backs McCarthy, there's a lot of people who are like, I still think Trump's the best bet, but it means that it is not about Trump.
This is the thing that people didn't realize, I should say Democrats didn't realize 2016 on.
They kept saying Trump is doing this, Trump is causing this division.
No, no, no, no, no.
Trump is not the cause of, he is a symptom of.
The people in this country are angry, and like Michael, was it Michael Moore?
He said, Donald Trump is the human Molotov cocktail that they're going to launch into the system, and it'll feel good.
If you stop there, his statement was fantastic.
dave rubin
Coming from a human keg, you know.
tim pool
But he then goes on to say, for a few days.
Or a few weeks, but then they'll realize, and they didn't realize, no, he was wrong.
The people chose Donald Trump because he was just an avatar representing their anger.
That means, as time goes on, it may not be Donald Trump.
It could be a lot of different people, so long as you're true to what the point is, and the point is, yo, we want accountability in government.
ian crossland
Well, there was Make America Great was really, because you're talking about there's angry MAGA and then there's like...
It's just functional MAGA.
And like, I'm afraid that if it's the anger that got him elected, that we'll see another anger representative in the future, maybe not even from MAGA, and that things could get really bad.
dave rubin
Well, look, you can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea, right?
Viva Vendetta.
And that's the idea.
And I think I think Gates kind of sees that, that this the Trump thing will not exist forever.
How old is Trump?
unidentified
He's 79, 78.
dave rubin
78, right?
He's no spring chicken again.
So regardless of where this ends out, whether he's president again or anything, the man will not exist forever.
So Gates is seeing the writing on the wall.
I mean, Gates, I like him a lot too, but like he is a politician, so he's in the system too.
He's not in it as a politician right now to not be a politician after, right?
He's in the politician to figure out what his next steps are.
And if he sees, wow, there's a movement that the leader's kind of getting old and someone's got to take over, like he's kind of doing what's right for him.
I'm not even begrudging him that.
I think it's It's just worth noting.
luke rudkowski
Victor Hugo once said, nothing is more powerful than an idea whose time has come.
And I think we're in that particular time where there are multiple political paradigm shifts that are absolutely huge that we're living through right now.
It's very exciting, but also it's also very dangerous at the time, because as Ian mentioned, it could go either way.
ian crossland
Yeah, you could, we got to focus the MAGA laser on something creative like graphene, like reindustrialization of the United States.
luke rudkowski
Everyone drink, take a shot.
ian crossland
Because if we don't focus the MAGA laser, the Chinese Communist Party will focus it, or the World Economic Forum will focus it and get people to fight each other.
And I feel like that's what's been happening for five years, is that people are obviously, the world is attempting to manipulate our government and our people, and they are.
tim pool
And I think it's more so, you know, you have that meme where it's, they're trying to make us fight amongst ourselves so that we don't actually challenge the system and the corrupt.
And, uh, half true.
That meme goes back to Occupy Wall Street, where you got a bunch of people saying the 99% and, you know, the big bank screwed us over, and there's a rich guy in his office on the phone, he says, introduce identity politics.
What I see is, they tried to figure out a way, how do you make it so that it's no longer about The wealthy and the poor.
But you make it so that the poor people fight each other?
Identity politics.
You get a bunch of people on the left to start attacking people based on their race.
Of course the right will defend themselves.
Who wouldn't defend when they're being attacked?
Namely when they go after white people and white males and all that stuff.
And this creates division.
So it's funny to me when we then see leftists pushing the meme that they're making us fight amongst ourselves, when it's like, Yeah, there's America, a constitutional republic that has values, norms, and rights, and then there's the weird, culty, Marxist garbage you're introducing.
You are the PSYOP.
What they're doing is the manipulation.
dave rubin
Yeah, they're the pawns in the game.
They're the useful idiots and they don't realize it.
All the kids that were out there burning down their neighborhoods and burning down the Pep Boys and the Target, like, they were doing it to themselves and not even realizing it.
But, you know, when you talk about the Uniparty as one Florida guy to another.
luke rudkowski
Florida man.
dave rubin
Florida man to another.
Um, this place that we live in, this is pretty freaking functional.
There is nothing going on here, unless you guys can think of something that I don't know about, that is not right in this state in terms of what a functional government can do.
Well, hold on.
tim pool
I was, uh, I was driving to get dinner.
dave rubin
What do you got, a gator?
A gator jumped out of a river, snapped the beanie, whatever.
tim pool
There was like four inches of water in the street, which proves climate change.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dave rubin
We're working on climate change.
We're very close to the water here, you know, so it's a little more compromised.
luke rudkowski
We're going to make Ian eat the bugs and then climate change is going to be over.
dave rubin
It's going to be fine.
You are sarcastically illustrating my point.
tim pool
It was raining today.
dave rubin
It rained a little today, right?
People will be like, well, there's a lot of traffic in the Miami area now.
Well, yes, we did get about 300,000 new people here and we're building incredibly fast.
So I totally agree with you on the Uniparty thing and that the Republicans just blow and suck and all of those things.
But in micro places in different states, and that's the beauty of federalism, it's working like this place is hyper functional, has brought in a million people.
Everyone's flourishing.
We have some issues.
There's some issues around insurance, right?
Home insurance.
Because we have two massive... We had a category 5 hurricane, Ian, a year ago, two days.
And we had another one, Idalia, not too long ago.
So there's some, like, human issues.
But in terms of the functioning of the state, and law and order, and the you-loot-we-shoot thing, you know, that hurricane demolished southwest Florida last year.
Demolished it.
There was no looting.
Zero looting.
That literally would not have happened.
luke rudkowski
Well, there was a little skirmish outside of the Miami Heat stadium, but then cops came in right away, and then they booked people for blocking traffic immediately, and then it was over right away.
dave rubin
There was a skirmish, or I love it when people, and I saw a lot of MAGA people doing this, because they're always going after Florida right now, when it's Miami, you know, it's spring break, and in Miami Beach they get thousands of people from other places, and they get real drunk at night, and they brawl in the streets, and it happened for like two nights.
And I saw all these people going after DeSantis.
First off, the governor is not in charge of what happens on every street in every city every moment.
But I tweeted something like, you guys do know that if this lasts another day, Fort Lauderdale, by the way, and Miami Beach, Democrat mayors, some of the few Democrat mayors in the entire state, you know he's going to get involved.
And then two days later, the National Guard was there.
Like, that's what I'm saying.
While the DC version of the Uniparty is deeply corrupt and backwards, some places are doing it right.
And it's not just Florida.
I think this is the best example of it.
luke rudkowski
I'm a little biased, but I do believe Florida is the Alamo.
It is the last free kind of standing place in America that's standing up for a lot of individual liberties, a lot of rights, a lot of...
Uh, you know, just the basic principle of you being able to keep your money.
That's a very important principle that a lot of people don't have in California and in New York.
And that's why I think... I kind of want to go against your point, Tim, a little bit.
I do think a governor is more powerful than a senator on a local level because I do believe... I'd say he wasn't more powerful.
I'm saying, when you were talking about Gates, you were saying, I don't think he wants to be a governor, I think he wants to be a senator.
tim pool
Yeah, you can have a lot of power in Florida, or you can have a little bitty power in DC, but DC is the whole country.
luke rudkowski
I would argue a governor is way more important than a senator, mainly because of just how much involved they are in everyday life, just how much they can make a difference when it comes to carrying firearms, just how much they can make a difference when it comes to tax policy, and I truly do believe Matt Gaetz, I think, would be a better governor than a senator, and I would hope he becomes the next governor of Florida.
tim pool
But what I'm saying is, when you're a senator or member of Congress, you can actually have an impact on immigration and war.
When you're a governor, You can't deport people, you don't have the authority, and you can only voice your opinion.
dave rubin
Well, we did send a whole bunch of people to Martha's Vineyard.
tim pool
Which keeps them in the country.
So I do appreciate the move, because it's a sanctuary city.
But the issue is, while it does create, I suppose, notice of the issue, creates awareness, Yeah, you can't solve the macro issue.
All it's doing though is bringing the people in and then sending them deeper into the country.
ian crossland
You know what a governor does do very, is very important, is how they handle natural
disasters.
I was going to ask you guys, talked about the hurricane a little bit, and the you loot
we shoot message right off the bat curbed it.
So like I think a lot of our political instability might come from natural disasters.
We might think, oh, it's about people and money.
But like if there's a global flood, we're going to get tens of billions or millions
of people are going to flood the United, you know.
We've already seen it on the southern border.
tim pool
Listen, yes, if there are disasters and things like that in other parts of the world, but the issue is, if literally nothing happens anywhere else in the world and we keep making the country better, they will keep saying, I want your stuff.
ian crossland
Yeah, but anyway, but the real point is natural disasters.
I think it's very important how we handle those things.
And you could even call COVID a natural disaster, even if it was built by humans.
That reacted as if it was a natural plague.
dave rubin
Look, you know how well DeSantis handled the hurricanes because they couldn't get him on anything.
Like, the media's waiting for the guy to literally just step in the wrong puddle or anything else.
And Idalia, there was not, I did not see one article that he failed on anything.
You know, during Hurricane Ian, the Sanibel Causeway, it's a three-mile bridge that they built from Fort Myers to the islands over there.
It was blown apart in five different spots.
It would have taken the federal government or any other state government literally five to ten years to rebuild.
They had cars going over that thing in three weeks.
I went over it.
And you could not even tell the sections that were new versus the sections that were old because he basically walked, went there and said, Hey, we're going to get the best engineers here.
We're cutting all the red tape, build this freaking thing.
And they do it.
And that's it.
So we don't, sometimes I think the thing that DeSantis suffers from actually is that we don't know what to do with a competent governor or competent, a competent politician.
We just, we just don't know what to do.
It's like, well, we're doing everything right.
Hot damn.
tim pool
Let's talk about this.
We have a story about Donald Trump from Politico.
The crime is against me.
Trump slams business fraud trial.
Apparently, before the trial, he said that the judge was a rogue and the prosecutor was racist.
I don't know what he meant by that.
Is it because she's black and he's white or something?
But either way, What we're seeing from this trial is absolutely bonkers.
It's now advancing.
I guess, Ian, you were saying something that they've dropped some of the claims against Trump?
ian crossland
That's what Trump said at a press conference right after he walked out of the courtroom.
He and his lawyers started talking and said that because of the statute of limitations, they dropped or they're no longer pursuing like 80% of the case.
And I think that's a rough estimate.
luke rudkowski
I think he made those comments inside of a Wendy's when he was screaming.
Yeah, I think he went to a Wendy's right after the court proceedings and did another PR where he was talking about how the A.G.
tim pool
was racist.
dave rubin
Is that like Giuliani going to the Four Seasons, but it was the Four Seasons that was like a garage or something?
unidentified
No, no, no.
luke rudkowski
He usually does these, Trump usually, and he's really good at this, he does these kind of PR stunts right after a lot of these court proceedings where he goes in public places and public restaurants and buys everyone food and he buys goodwill and essentially has that.
dave rubin
A lot of times he walks on that bill, by the way.
That's happened multiple times.
tim pool
So I want to address this because we got some Florida men here.
You know, the judge said that Mar-a-Lago is worth around 18 to 20 million dollars, and this is 17 and a half acres of beach-to-beach Palm Beach property.
Now, I don't know what kind of place you're living in, Dave.
dave rubin
Yeah.
tim pool
However, whatever you must have bought living down here, it's got to be worth, based on the judge's estimate, 50 bucks, 100 bucks, something like that.
dave rubin
It's completely and so let me just say clearly because I've hit Trump a lot lately and I got a lot of mag angry I mean all of these cases are pure bullshit This one is the height of bullshit because it has nothing to do with anything political.
It's purely to destroy the man Right and the crazy part about this is if you if really the the goal of all of these things was to get him out of politics You'd have to leave him with something.
You got to leave him with his businesses so he can get out, right?
So the idea that they're going after him on this.
Oh, and also, you know, when you buy a house, you've bought properties.
When you buy a house, you don't just, you can't just make up a number.
This house is worth $40 million.
You get an appraiser.
There is a system in place.
tim pool
Well, it depends, right?
If you don't want to sell and someone comes to you and says, I want to buy your property, I think the value is actually safe.
dave rubin
Sure.
The idea, so it's 17 and a half acres in West Palm Beach.
tim pool
No, no, not West Palm Beach.
I made the same mistake.
dave rubin
What?
Palm Beach proper.
Oh, it's in Palm Beach proper.
Right, right, right.
tim pool
Beach to beach.
dave rubin
Yeah.
Have you been there?
I've been there.
Like it's a little bit kind of getting old and they could fix up a lot of stuff and it's probably not worth what Trump wants it to be worth, but it is easily Easily worth $80,000,000.
There is no real estate agent.
No, no, I'm saying at the bare minimum, probably closer to like $120,000,000, something like that.
Way more.
I don't know about that.
tim pool
A third anchor goes for $20,000,000.
dave rubin
Yeah, but you have to remember the market and you have to find someone that can buy the thing.
So it can be worth something sort of in our minds, but someone that really at this point with interest rates the way they are and everything else that would buy the thing.
The point is it's not $18,000,000.
tim pool
We're agreed on that.
dave rubin
Neither one of us know.
tim pool
If they section this thing off acre lots, he's gonna get 300, 400 million for it.
dave rubin
But I don't know that you can do that over there.
tim pool
Just dead acreage.
dave rubin
Right.
tim pool
Yeah, there's some covenants requiring it to remain historically or something like that, which does diminish the value.
But right now, there's a house next door that is a third acre, and it's substantially, obviously the house property is substantially smaller, 30 some odd million dollars.
Right, right, right, right.
Insane, insane.
dave rubin
The guy's easily off $100 million.
I think we could say that.
tim pool
I think when you add the fact that it's a business, that it generates $25 million per year as the estimated revenue, combined with the real estate, the tennis courts, and all of that, you've got a functioning business at $25 million.
If you just had a business that ran at $25 million, you could argue your business is worth $250 million.
Why, so here's the way I phrase it, because Kyle Kalinske made this post where he was ragging on Trump saying, it's not worth this, it's worth seventy- That guy's still doing it?
He went nuts on this one.
dave rubin
That guy?
unidentified
Oh man.
tim pool
And he said it generates twenty-five million per year, it's worth at most seventy-five million dollars.
All you gotta do is break it down this way.
Forget the real estate value, which is 17 and a half beach-to-beach acres in Palm Beach, okay?
Let's just say a business.
Let's say you have a business that makes $25 million a year, and someone comes to you and says, you make $25 million every year?
Okay, I'd like to buy this off you.
I think it's worth $75 million.
Your response is gonna be, So what, you're paying me two years up front to sell my, for the rest of my life, $25 million a year?
That's the stupidest deal I've ever heard.
Maybe 10x.
If he says $250 million, you're thinking, like, I get nine years of work up front, with that money I can do a lot of things.
So if you go to Trump and you say, minus the real estate, it's only $75 million, absolutely insane.
You add that business onto it, you add the $17.5, I think Trump's assessment, he said $400 to $600, might have been a little low.
Depending on how you want to imagine it, because if you were to break it apart, you could argue that value.
But the crazy thing about the story is, they're arguing in this fraud case against Donald Trump in New York and in Florida, that he undervalued his property to get favorable, or he overvalues his property to get more money on loans.
That's the opposite of what people do with fraud.
They say their property's worth less, so they pay less in taxes.
dave rubin
It would also be the fault of the bank, right?
Like, most people get loans when you buy a house for $100,000.
You might put $20,000 down and you get an $80,000 loan, but the bank comes in and appraises it.
They don't just magically... You can't just write a number out and be like, give me cash.
So yeah, this is this thing is all complete nonsense.
The fact that so there's not going to be a jury trial.
You heard that they're not gonna be a jury trial because apparently his lawyer forgot to check a box on the floor.
tim pool
I don't know.
luke rudkowski
I don't know.
I don't know about that.
You don't have a jury of your peers in New York City.
We have a whole bunch of crazy leftists that will, of course, automatically, no matter what happens, no matter what evidence is provided, automatically say, Trump bad, Trump jail.
dave rubin
Well, someone could double check it, but I think they're now saying that they didn't check a box and that's what's going to happen.
tim pool
Either Trump's lying or the judge is lying.
I think the strategy here, ask yourself, why would Donald Trump actually show up for this court case when the judge already issued a summary judgment dissolving the Trump organization?
They want to file an appeal.
So they don't want to waste their time with a jury that's pointless, it's going to cost them more money, all of that stuff's a waste of time.
They get their ruling, run it through, file the appeal, get the lower court reversed.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, that's what I think is happening as well, because it doesn't make sense to have a jury trial.
The judge is going to be deciding here.
We saw a video of him today, and he clearly really likes the camera, really likes the limelight.
But with all of this happening here, just to take a step back, there's politicians that literally killed American teenagers.
There's politicians that go to Jeffrey Epstein's island, and you're telling me We're going after this guy because he overinflated the property value that he had?
This is after investigating him for so long.
This is what you have on him?
Are you freaking kidding me?
tim pool
I will say this.
You get these Democrat types that are like, we're holding people accountable.
I mean, are you saying you don't want accountability?
My response is, if you come to me, And say, I can choose between investigating Epstein's client list and Donald Trump overvaluing his homes.
I say, I don't care about Trump's homes.
Please investigate Epstein's client list.
They still have not released this.
They're still not doing anything related to it.
But oh boy, they're mad about Trump, the price of Trump's properties.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, how many years ago did this freaking happen?
This is ridiculous, this is stupid, this is not in the public interest, and this is clearly the weaponization of the justice system to destroy Donald Trump.
dave rubin
I have an idea to clean this thing up, I have an idea to clean this thing up.
The Timcast operation's going pretty well, you got like 87 businesses, you really, you got a skate park indoors, you're doing a lot of stuff.
Let's find out about this $18 million.
Tim Kast moves the operation down to Florida.
You're running the thing out of Mar-a-Lago.
tim pool
If we can get Mar-a-Lago for $18 million, dumb deal.
I will take a half a billion dollar property for $18 million.
I bet I can go to any bank and be like, I'm selling it for $18 million.
ian crossland
They're going to be like, I will finance this.
dave rubin
Oh, you said $18 million?
Go for it.
ian crossland
Are they giving you just the flat land value appraisal when they said $17 million?
They're not even accounting for the business?
dave rubin
No, there's no such thing.
Because otherwise it would be a complete teardown.
I don't think anyone's making that argument.
tim pool
I got an idea.
I have an idea.
Here's my proposal to counter-democrats.
I say we all give Donald Trump blanket immunity if he releases all the Epstein information and launches an investigation into Epstein.
I will go as far to say I will give Trump a full pardon on literally anything he has ever done.
If they actually investigate and bring out the information that I've seen.
dave rubin
And you might be saying... Wait, why would the Democrats do that?
ian crossland
That's a double loss.
tim pool
No, I'm saying Trump does when he gets elected.
When Trump gets elected, my pitch is, I think the American people should all just agree.
Yeah, Trump, we're going to sign this document.
All the American people agree.
You are immune For any past wrongdoing ever done, it's gone.
You are immune, okay?
And now go after Epstein.
And you may be saying, but what if Trump's on the Epstein list?
What if he's involved?
They'll be like, what if he committed some very serious crimes or fraud?
You're gonna let him get away with all that?
Absolutely.
We go to drug lords and gangbangers all the time and say, we know you did this evil thing, but we're gonna make you immune if you expose the leaders and the people facilitating this.
So whatever you think of Donald Trump, my point is this.
When they come out and they're like, we want to hold Donald Trump accountable for crimes.
I mean, you're not saying you want him to get away with it, are you?
I'll be like, bro, I will let him get away with it.
I will clap for me having done it, if it means they go after the real criminals.
If it means they go after the people who were trafficking children.
Yeah, absolutely.
ian crossland
Do you think the world would be a better place, and assuming both of these would make it better, if the Hunter Biden, the Bidens were completely exposed globally and everyone knew?
Or if Epstein and Ghislaine were globally exposed and everyone knew?
unidentified
That's a good question.
luke rudkowski
It doesn't just go after the democratic families.
He also goes after the entire establishment.
He also goes after the entire banking sphere, which was involved here, as we know from the latest JP Morgan settlement that happened.
As of course, JP Morgan Spent tens of millions of dollars trying to settle this out of court, when in reality the facts of how they were complicit here is absolutely mind-boggling.
You have to understand that the American government for over 30 plus years used your tax dollars, evaded and used and abused this system to traffic and hurt thousands of children, some of them as young as seven years old.
With your money.
This is ridiculous.
This is infuriating.
There's so much corruption.
And when you look at that Epstein thing, he doesn't just go after the puppet Biden family.
He goes after everyone involved here.
And there were a lot of different people, a lot of celebrities, a lot of banksters, a lot of people behind the scenes that we're not even aware of.
As of course, Biden here, he's just a flesh suit that the globalists are using to screw you over.
ian crossland
I got the vibe that Epstein was one of Ghislaine's boys and that she has a bunch of those dudes and he was just the one that got caught because he's an idiot or he just went too far.
But she's like the kingpin, like the linchpin.
dave rubin
Well, where is the list?
Where is the list, right?
luke rudkowski
What a judge.
dave rubin
It's sitting in a locked box somewhere with the judge.
luke rudkowski
There's a lot of information kept away from the general public that judges are saying is too controversial for the general public to find out about and therefore needs to be kept away from the people finding out.
dave rubin
So there'll be a Freedom of Information Act at some point, what, 30 years from now and everyone's dead?
luke rudkowski
me i don't know how to handle it down to just like they do the jfk files that
still aren't released that sixty seven years yep sixty maybe even then
i i i think we have to understand here the government will never tell us the
truth and we have to always imagine the worst and then times that ten because
it's probably a lot worse than what we can even imagine what what really
happens behind the scenes Because with the Epstein stuff, we're still just scratching the surface to how corrupt and utterly disgusting this entire system is.
And there's another article here that was just published by the Daily Mail showing just the true depths of this corruption that is titled, Senator Dianne Feinstein's death leaves her daughter wrangling over breathtaking $102 million property fortune and $62 million private jet she used to visit her mansion.
tim pool
I feel so bad for what's her daughter's name?
luke rudkowski
Let me look that up right now.
tim pool
I feel so bad for her.
I mean, you're minding your own business one day, power of attorney over your son and her mom, and then you wake up to inherit $150 million in properties.
The amount of work she's going to have to do.
dave rubin
No, it's a lot of work.
tim pool
She's going to be in meetings with lawyers.
Oh, I just feel so bad for her inheriting this vast, vast swath of Scrooge McDuck-like wealth.
dave rubin
When Dianne Feinstein got into the Senate in 1826, what were they paying at the time?
Does anyone know?
What was the salary?
It was food.
Yeah, for real, what year did she get in?
She's been in, well, she was the mayor of San Francisco, but what year did she get in the Senate?
Probably 82, something like that.
Like, what were they paying at the time?
Because the mayor of San Francisco wasn't paying much.
Maybe she had a little family money, but a hundred million bucks on the plane.
ian crossland
I'll look into it.
dave rubin
Yeah, let's get some numbers.
luke rudkowski
How many children do you have to hurt to acquire that money?
That's what people should be asking themselves with these politicians because that's... Who did she sell?
ian crossland
What did she do?
tim pool
I'll tell you what she did.
What she did was...
unidentified
I'll keep the thing.
dave rubin
Probably a lot of insider trading.
tim pool
It's like Pelosi, right?
dave rubin
Exactly.
tim pool
What happens is a bill is introduced, and it says something like, we're going to ban widgets.
Widget company comes by and says, hey, this is really bad for us.
It's going to cost a lot of jobs.
We don't want widgets banned.
And then the politician's like, oh, but they're going to introduce this onto the floor, which is going to cause a stock to drop.
So they put a bunch of put options on widgets.
The bill gets introduced.
Stock price goes down.
They cash out.
Then they say, No, we're not going to vote on this one.
It's gone.
And then the price goes back up.
dave rubin
Isn't there some crazy percentage that Nancy Pelosi has played the market at?
Like she trades better than 900% of all day traders or something like that.
tim pool
90%?
dave rubin
It's something like 900x.
Someone can check me on that.
But how the hell did she become worth all this money?
How did Gavin become worth all this money?
tim pool
All of them.
That's why they want to get in Congress.
If you're a day trader and you want to get rich, you get into Congress and then you're rich.
ian crossland
Feinstein, 30 years in Congress.
She joined in 1992.
$130,000 salary.
Their salary from $130,000 is now up to $174,000.
$130,000 salary. Their salary from $130,000 is now up to $174,000.
dave rubin
Right. So that's $1.3 million.
tim pool
You put your salary, you put your $90k for taxes or your $80k for taxes into a savings account, a high yield, and then
with compounding interest, after 30 years, you have $150 million.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It depends which way they carry the one, I think.
tim pool
I think it's funny that we're all sitting here laughing, because we know.
They know we know.
It just keeps happening.
But that's why I like Matt Gaetz, man.
I mean, for whatever it is.
Let's talk about the other guy.
Here we go, everybody.
You ready for this one?
Bowman Camp slams Nazi Republicans after fire alarm flap.
This is the state of Congress.
We're in serious trouble.
Okay, let me just... I think you guys have seen the story.
So this dude pulls the fire alarm next to a door with a sign that says, depress the bar or whatever for 30 seconds to open the door.
This basically causes a stall in the vote over the government spending bill.
He then says later, you know, I thought pulling the fire alarm opened the door.
Which, I'm sorry, I don't think he is so stupid he actually believes that.
I think he's smart enough to recognize if he says he intentionally pulled the fire alarm, he gets criminally charged.
So it's a, I just thought it opened the door, but I gotta tell ya, ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking it, he should be criminally charged.
So, after he gets a bunch of flack from everybody saying, you know, he's trying to stall and delay, He then, his camp puts out a message saying that they're all Nazis.
This is really, really funny.
Let me see, I don't know if they actually have the messages here, what he actually put out.
But he then comes out, here we go, TimCast.com, Rep.
Jamal Bowman condemns use of Nazi in memo issued to Democrats by his office, saying, it is important to specify the term Nazi to refer to members of the Nazi party and neo-Nazis.
unidentified
And then, here's a tweet from John Levine.
Rep.
tim pool
Jamal Bowman says, Michael Knowles is a Nazi hellbent on keeping only white men alive and in power.
We cannot allow him and others to push their evil agenda, blah, blah, blah.
So there you go.
We can sit here and sing the praises of Matt Gaetz or Dr. Ron Paul when he was in office, and this is what Democrats have to offer, I suppose.
ian crossland
For the record, Michael Knowles is a Christian Republican, not a Nazi.
He doesn't serve the Nazi party.
dave rubin
And I'm pretty sure his wife's Jewish.
But all of that aside, these people are horrible.
Nothing's going to happen to Bowman.
He has Democrat privilege.
You can do whatever you want.
You can pull fire alarms.
You can be racist.
You can, right before we started, there was the Ilhan Omar story about giving illegals IDs.
It's like, they can do anything and they get more power.
That's how they operate, and they protect their own much better than Republicans do.
But this guy's a buffoon.
You guys, I'm sure you covered the video of him screaming at Massey in the hallway a couple months ago.
This guy is just, he's the worst of the worst, but he's exactly what the future of the Democrat Party is.
ian crossland
He changed his story from, I thought it would open the door when I pulled the fire alarm, to I was in a rush, I had to vote.
So I pull the fire alarm.
tim pool
He changed his story very recently.
He's saying that the door is normally open, he was in a rush, and when he got to the door and saw that it was closed, he thought, I have to get to the Capitol building, and if I pull the fire alarm it'll open the door so I can get through.
Despite the fact it's a sign on the door explaining how to open it.
ian crossland
Is it now okay for congressmen to pull fire alarms when they're in a rush?
Because that's the precedent this will set if he doesn't get arrested.
tim pool
Well, I disagree.
The excuse he's making is, I thought it opened the door, so it won't set precedent, but he should be arrested.
luke rudkowski
Ian, you should go to the Capitol right now and go into that same building, that same location, and you should test out your theory, being, I just need to leave here and then see what happens to you, because you could say you made a coinkidink.
tim pool
But that's actually a really interesting point.
What if someone goes in there and says the exact same thing?
luke rudkowski
A Republican, though.
tim pool
No, no, I'm just saying literally anybody.
I mean, you will get arrested.
They're going to arrest you and they're going to give you all the insane BS, you know, a disrupting an official proceeding or whatever.
luke rudkowski
The Democrats really don't like that one.
And how much government resources and time are you wasting?
MTG released a very interesting video showing how what this congress member were saying was an absolute lie, but I think the Babylon Bee definitely takes the cake here as they wrote an article that was titled, Democrats propose a 12 billion dollar study to determine what strange red handle thingy with fire alarm on it does.
They really just nailed this entire situation very well, more than any other news organization out there, as of course, there's so many lies by the Democrats.
There's lies by the Republicans, too, but all of them are just full of crap, and he should be held responsible for what he did.
dave rubin
Doesn't this just seem to you like this is the next step of where the Democrats are obviously going, pulling fire alarms?
Like, you've got John Fetterman in his hoodie, and they changed the rules so he can wear shorts and a hoodie.
tim pool
Well, they changed it back, didn't they?
dave rubin
Did they change it back?
I was away for a couple of days.
I might have missed one.
So they actually change it back?
tim pool
Yeah, people were pissed off about that.
dave rubin
Well, I have not heard that.
I'm completely amazed by that.
But he will figure out a way around it.
Oh, yeah.
Just the basic idea that every norm that we have, everybody that is respectful and decent and competent will eventually be purged.
And you will just get a bunch of people that pull fire alarms and tell you that they don't know what they're doing.
And a lot of people will be like, oh, I guess He didn't know what he was doing.
tim pool
You know what it is?
All that is required of evil to triumph is that good men do nothing.
And too many people allow people like Bowman to run and win.
Too many people support it.
ian crossland
But what if someone pulled out a gun while they were shooting a movie, and they were like, oops, and the gun went off, and they killed the cinematographer, like Alec Baldwin did?
You would think, like, ignorance of not knowing that the gun was loaded with the bullet, you would think, that's not an excuse to commit the crime.
tim pool
It's kind of a joke, because- Yes, Bowman should be criminally charged.
The problem is, our system is broken and corrupt.
ian crossland
I- I- I don't- This is one, I'm gonna have a hard time letting go of this one.
Because for years to come, people can pull fire alarms in Congress if this isn't taken care of right away.
dave rubin
I hate to tell you, they're letting him go.
tim pool
You know, he'll probably get a ticket.
They'll be like, he got a fine, his office paid for it, which is your tax dollars.
Something like that'll happen.
dave rubin
And then we'll be told it's because America is systemically racist.
tim pool
Oh yeah, that's the next thing he's going to come out and say.
dave rubin
Yeah, of course he is.
They wouldn't have done this to a black guy.
Lauren Boebert would have been walking off scot-free.
unidentified
Yep.
dave rubin
White supremacy.
How black-pilled are you?
I'm a little black-pilled about the nation as a whole, but I'm very white-pilled on what's going on here in Florida, and I think that that's the freedom, or that's the future of America.
We're going to kind of go our different directions, and it's okay.
And then Florida declares independence?
I think we're probably not.
Not that far from that, to some extent, in some way.
I only mean that's part—well, it's not even that you'd have to do that.
The states are set up to be laboratories of democracy, and yes, you can't solve all the problems in your own state, because yes, they can still screw you.
They can still screw you at the border by letting in all these people, but you can control your border to some degree.
You can't control— No, not today, no, not yet.
luke rudkowski
Yesterday, please.
Declare independence immediately, get away from the Union, and just leave us alone, please.
dave rubin
Let's put it this way.
I never thought I would have been a separatist in the Star Wars prequels, but the more you watch them and you see what's going on, you kind of go, well, actually, when an entire system is corrupt, getting out of the system does make sense.
I'm not for that.
Well, you know, the other problem with that is that the red states, if the red states really were just
like, let's kind of all get together and not leave in like some drastic way, but just kind of do our
own thing, have economic trading policies and all that on our own, the blue states will never let
them go. Florida and Texas and South Dakota don't want anything from the blue states, but
California wants the money and the resources They can't keep running these giant deficits and all of this other shit without Florida and the red states because what's going to increasingly happen, we know this is happening.
All of the functional people who build things, who want the government out of the way, who want to produce, they're all moving to the red states and they're leaving the blue states.
And don't forget, That Lee Zeldin, who nobody knew about two weeks before the New York gubernatorial election, he lost by about 500,000 votes.
You know how many people moved out of New York during COVID?
About 400,000.
So it was that close to flipping what is like the red, the bluest of blue states.
And now it just got further.
tim pool
But this is one of the big components of what happens in Florida and Texas, why it flips so red.
It's people coming here and then voting red.
dave rubin
They're voting the right way.
I mean, I meet these people all the time because people know that I did it very publicly, but everyone I meet here, the amount of former Dems that now tell me they're first time Republicans, do you know the numbers on that?
When DeSantis came into office, someone could check this, I think the Republicans were actually down by voter registration and now they're up by like 400,000 or something like that.
Someone give me the real numbers on it.
tim pool
On our way here in the airport, met some fans, and they were like, oh, cool, we love your show.
And I was like, what are you guys, what are you up to?
And they're like, we're moving to Florida.
No joke.
Yeah, they're like, we're moving.
And I was like, wow.
I was like, we're on our way to Miami.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, Miami went red.
It's a major urban area.
Urban area is predominantly overwhelmingly Democrat.
dave rubin
Can I tell you something so great about this is just how like functional these people are I was doing the show one day and I was talking about the crazy oh it was right after I was in San Francisco and I did this video that went viral just the zombie apocalypse right so I was talking about San Francisco and LA and Portland Seattle all that and I said I don't know how many homeless people There are in Miami, but I know it's not that many because you never see them and we take care of business here.
Literally, while I'm doing it, I get a text from Suarez, the mayor of Miami, and he says, Dave, tell your audience we have 348 and I'm working on it.
Like, think about the functional difference of the people that are running this state and this city versus almost the entire country.
ian crossland
I think you were looking for numbers earlier.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Republican Party of Florida, numbers for that.
And 2023, it was 55.2 million.
Before that, it was 5.3 million in 22, so down 80,000 or something.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
that it was 5.3 million in 22 so down 80,000 or so.
tim pool
Wait, wait, wait.
No, no, no, no, no.
ian crossland
In 2020 it was 5.2?
In 2023, it was 5.24.
In 2020, I'm going backwards.
Let me go forward.
In 2019, there were 4.7.
2020, there were 5.2.
So that's 500,000 people joined the Republican Party in that year.
2021, it went down from 5.2 to 5.1.
So a million registered Republicans left the party.
tim pool
100,000?
ian crossland
No, no, no.
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
100,000.
ian crossland
I'm sorry.
500,000 people joined the Republican Party in that year.
2021, it went down from 5.2 to 5.1.
So a million registered Republicans left the party.
tim pool
100,000 you mean?
ian crossland
No, no, no.
Oh yeah, 100,000.
I'm sorry I'm getting these numbers wrong.
This is from dos.myflorida.com.
Does that sound familiar?
dave rubin
The net number you're talking about is basically in four years, it's about 500,000 more Republicans.
And that, that is like a massively huge number for a state that is now really the reddest state in the nation.
I mean, the guy won by 20 points as a super majority.
unidentified
And there's 300,000 less Democrats.
luke rudkowski
In 2017, there was 4.5 million registered Republicans.
Today, there are 5.2 million registered Republicans in the state of Florida.
tim pool
How many Democrats?
luke rudkowski
There are 4.6 as of today and in 2017, it was 4.8.
tim pool
Yeah, but this is a major urban state.
luke rudkowski
All of Florida is a developed... Well, we personally have to thank the Cubans here.
They've been through socialism and the communism.
They're pretty based.
They don't like centralization.
And I get along with them very well because I come from communist Poland.
We don't like government there either.
They don't like big government here as well.
dave rubin
But you know, the other thing that happens, once you start doing things right, I think one of the things DeSantis has done really well, so for example, I disagree with DeSantis on the six week heartbeat bill, personally.
My personal belief is 15 weeks, that's kind of where, I would even be on 12 weeks, but I'm not as, let's say, conservative on that.
But when you do strong conservative policies, not only do you get strong conservative people to move into your state, you also scare off the whack job lefties.
So somebody that might have moved to Florida before because of low taxes, Suddenly they're like, but wait a minute, I like six-month abortions.
I'm never gonna move there.
So it actually doubly helps you.
You get the good people coming and you're also putting a force field so the wackadoodles don't move in.
tim pool
But there's a major negative to that, and if you look at what California did with illegal immigration, they end up getting about one or two extra seats in Congress to vote against your rights, ban your right to keep and bear arms and things like that, by breaking the law.
dave rubin
By what?
By allowing them to vote, you mean?
tim pool
They don't allow them to vote.
dave rubin
Or whatever it is they allow them to do.
tim pool
When non-citizens are allowed into the state of California, they are counted in the census, which then apportions congressional seats.
So you don't need to be a citizen in order for your presence to have an effect on the Electoral College and Congress.
dave rubin
Blame this on the federal government and also the banana republic of California.
tim pool
There actually is a risk here.
If all of the people are leaving their areas, and I'm not saying they should stay.
They should certainly be moving away from the cities, in my opinion, for the most part.
But if they all come to Florida, and then Florida wins by 20 points, if you're thinking about strategic allotment of your resources, gerrymandering comes to mind.
You want to make sure that you are putting just enough people in the right places to win those districts.
If you get half a million people from three or four states, put them all in Florida, well, Florida's already red!
Florida doesn't need 500,000 new people at all.
dave rubin
Florida did get more seats because of that.
tim pool
Oh, for sure, for sure.
That's one extra seat.
Just about one more seat's gonna be given to Florida.
But you'd be better off winning outright.
Winner-take-all states by putting 100,000 in five states as opposed to 500,000 in one state.
dave rubin
To be clear, as a New Floridian, I'm not for everybody moving here.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, you really do need to spread it out.
And as a nation, we do have to if we're going to remain united at all, which gets us back to the other thing.
But yeah, we need to... Not so convinced.
But look, a whole... No, if we are to.
I think maybe we aren't, but I think yes.
Well, look how many people moved to Tennessee in the last three years.
I mean, it's a crazy amount of people as well.
tim pool
But, you know, it might just be, we talk a lot about national divorce, civil war, what it means, and there are a lot of people that think this is, like, where we are now is where we will be until the fighting starts.
And there's another reality.
San Francisco's in disarray.
It's falling apart.
Los Angeles is falling apart.
There's feces everywhere.
The Westfield Mall, they, what was it?
They relinquished the claim to the property to their lender.
dave rubin
Oh, in San Francisco.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the mall.
Two of the biggest hotels did.
The reality may be that these blue states stay on this path, we maintain stability for five, six, seven years, and these cities just lose all their political power and capital.
Now right now they can claim, oh we make all the money and blue states do all the work, and you're a city.
Okay?
Outside of the cities it's all red, for the most part.
If these cities are mismanaged to this degree, and their policies are going insane and people are leaving, it's called a brain drain.
The people who are leaving are the hard workers who don't want to be in a place where they're being oppressed for their hard work, so they go to Florida, where they can strive, where they can thrive.
And then the people who remain are demanding of the government.
The government raises taxes.
The system falls apart.
Give it five, ten years.
New York will be a pigsty, pit stain.
No one's going to want to be there anymore, and they will have no political capital.
And then people are going to look to Florida, and they're going to look to Texas, and they're going to look to Tennessee.
dave rubin
Well, the next version is then between the fentanyl and God knows what sex these people are doing and everything else, then the super virus starts, the zombie apocalypse, and then yes, we do have to put gators at the border to keep these freaks out.
ian crossland
Do you think you could have benefited at all, California, if you'd stayed?
dave rubin
No, I did everything I could do.
I fought as hard as anyone.
I campaigned with Larry Elder.
I got audited by the state three days after the campaign ended.
That was the day I put my house for sale, for real.
California wants to go in that direction.
There are good people there.
I was just there, I had dinner with some friends.
Like there are still a good people remaining, but everyone's depressed.
It's all they talk about.
Yes, you're gonna find pockets of sanity, of course.
It's not all that crazy everywhere, but you're right, the brain drain,
it's not just what it does to the businesses It's what it does to the human spirit when you realize you're in a, you, you, why would you ever open a store, a freaking sneaker store or a pizza joint?
If you know on any given moment, they're going to burn it down.
So what is this to your family?
tim pool
So what happens is the brain drain is the people who normally start the businesses leave because they can't.
And the people who don't start businesses stay and demand of the government.
luke rudkowski
This is the same exact thing that happened in Cuba.
Cuba faced a major brain drain, and this is why a lot of people speculate that we had a total almost collapse of their society, because everyone was leaving Cuba, leaving communism, leaving somewhere where the government was oppressing them, taxing them, controlling them, and they left for places like Florida.
And this is why Cuba is the state that it is now.
This is why the Soviet Union fell.
This is why communism never works and the people in that country usually go hungry because the people capable are the ones usually punished by that entire system.
dave rubin
Tim, you want to go while you're in Miami to a place where everyone's going to know you and buy you a mojito, go to Little Havana down here and hang out with some of the Cubans who will talk about freedom until four in the morning, hopped up on sugar and rum.
These are good people who care.
They care about freedom.
tim pool
Mojitos.
ian crossland
No mint for me.
tim pool
Ceviche.
luke rudkowski
We don't drink no booze here.
We'll have a little kombucha with them.
But no, the Cubans here are very based and they're very, very strongly independent.
They don't like government.
They don't like centralization.
And I think this is why Florida is so great, because of them.
ian crossland
I keep thinking about pills, you mentioned earlier, like the brain drain, and it's all kind of circling around my head now, like just distractions in general, people playing video games, watching porn, taking opiates or whatever, opioids.
What is your vision for how to help people?
I mean, actually, I'll just say weed apparently can help people with withdrawals, you know, it can help suppress some of the pain that felt by opiate withdrawals.
luke rudkowski
CBD.
ian crossland
CBD, yeah.
So, but there are paths to maybe introduce new, new, new things, but like, what do you see?
Cause I think this is like, no matter how political you get, it always comes down to if the population's doped up, population ain't going anywhere.
dave rubin
Well, look, I'm not Jordan Peterson, so I'm not in the business of giving life advice to people, but you know, I do my August off the grid thing for one month a year for seven years.
I freaking put this thing in a safe and I have no news, no TV, no social media, nothing.
I know absolutely nothing.
A couple of years we've gone to Bora Bora, a couple of years this year we were in the Mexican rainforest.
Wow. And just disappear this year.
Actually, this year I really now having kids this year, I didn't want to do it.
I didn't read any books. I just did nothing.
I mean, we exercised, ate good food, but that was it.
And then I come back and I have fresh eyes on this.
You know, Tim, since me and you were like, oh, gee, in this freaking thing, right?
Like, like, think about it where we started and where both of us are, respectively.
We've been doing this for a long time.
tim pool
I was later than a lot of people.
dave rubin
It's yeah, but roughly like we're old timers now in this game.
I hate to tell you, man. But when I first met you, you had freaking nothing.
And you've built something amazing.
Like we've been in this for a long time.
And how many people do you know that were in the similar world as us that have lost
their freaking mind, gone crazy, just everything, the whole thing breaks them.
The politics breaks them.
The money breaks them.
The fame breaks them or with a lack of money or lack of fame.
You see, and to me, one.
One month.
So I take one twelfth of the year without this freakin' thing, and I come back and I'm fresh and I'm ready to go, and I think it's kept me in the game.
tim pool
You're asking people to basically, uh... We'll do a Marvel reference so that everybody can understand and enjoy it.
Yeah, in Infinity War, when Thor is standing in the way of the Star Forge.
You're asking people in politics to stand in the center of a forge being burned on all sides.
Not everybody can handle that.
dave rubin
Oh, that's where he gets the big hammer or something, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
dave rubin
He gets some kind of... I got it, I got it.
tim pool
He has to pull the levers and it blasts him and he's like dying.
Yeah.
dave rubin
Alright, I'm asking people to do that.
Is that such a big deal?
tim pool
This job is being inside of a pressure cooker 24-7 non-stop and some people like popcorn.
ian crossland
Yeah.
dave rubin
When's the last time you did one day?
tim pool
One day.
No, usually I would say like Saturdays.
dave rubin
Yeah, so you do try to.
tim pool
I would say Saturdays I'm like 99% reduced.
dave rubin
All right.
tim pool
You know, I still check my phone for texts and stuff like that.
But usually Saturday morning and then around Sunday night, I'm back on and I'm picking everything up.
ian crossland
I was over Twitter hellhole yesterday, man.
There's nothing like it.
dave rubin
Oh, it'll get you.
It'll bring you to hell.
And then you're just lucky if you can get back in.
But I'll tell you, you do this, if you can try to do it, even for a weekend or a week or whatever, like when I'm three weeks into this thing, I'm remembering friends that I have not thought of.
Second graders.
I can basically remember every kid in my class.
I'll have whole songs, albums in my brain.
I could tell you every word.
Like there is so much, so much stuff in the recesses of the human mind that we just, we just completely shit on with day to day now.
Holy shit.
Shit, this person who I don't know, I never heard of, they said something and I'm going to destroy them for it.
And we're doing that all day long.
And there is magic in us, in our minds.
luke rudkowski
Your dopamine receptors are just being blasted and it's pretty much just unhooking from the matrix.
I used to do it every two weeks, but things have been so crazy.
It's been difficult within the last few years to take a break, but you reminded me I need to take a break.
It's just like meditation.
If you can't meditate for 10 minutes, you got to meditate for 20 minutes.
dave rubin
Exactly.
Exactly.
The machine ain't going to slow down, I hate to tell you.
tim pool
This is why vacation is important.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's jump to this tweet here.
dave rubin
Let's get on Twitter.
tim pool
We're going to get onto it.
luke rudkowski
Let's get to murder talk.
tim pool
We have this tweet from Scott Adams.
This story, as Dave says, is wild.
Scott Adams tweeted July 1st, 2020.
If Biden is elected, there's a good chance he will be dead within the year.
Republicans will be hunted.
Police will stand down.
On September 30th, Josh Kruger says, the Dilbert dude is like Nostradamus.
Look at this prediction from 2020.
Wow.
Eerie.
Making fun of Scott Adams for, uh, having made that point.
And then we have this story from TimCast.com.
Journalist shot seven times in Philadelphia home.
Josh Kruger was killed in his home on Monday.
Yo, that's crazy.
So this is actually what, this is, uh, this was, he was killed today.
Is that it?
I thought it was, uh, 1am.
ian crossland
Jeez.
Wow.
tim pool
So, this guy, who, uh, was just mocking Scott Adams over his prediction about this stuff, was shot and killed in his own home.
I think the news is that there was no sign of, uh, break-in.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, he made fun of people who weren't taking COVID seriously, and he said COVID is more of a serious threat than the urban violence that's happening all throughout the United States, and he was pretty much ridiculing a lot of people who were taking it seriously.
As I think if you live in a major city, you should be taking survival and personal protection very seriously.
tim pool
I think you might want to consider not being there.
Here's one tweet.
It says, look, it's that lawless land of liberals in Philly where shootings are dropping to levels not seen in years.
Here's another one.
Bro, speak for your block, not mine.
It isn't ruined.
The city isn't ruined.
And just because Larry Krasner keeps winning in landslides doesn't mean Philly is a heap of cinders.
And Ash, no matter how much people say, Like the rest of this country, we are dealing with upticks in crime.
The crazy thing is, yo, I saw these tweets.
I don't know when he posted this one, but I remember seeing people retweeting this before he died.
dave rubin
Yeah, it's not too long ago.
I think they were in August or something.
tim pool
Right.
I remember when these tweets were going out and people were saying like, are you crazy?
Like, you're not considering what the people need.
This dude was killed in his own home.
In Baltimore, we had the story of that tech CEO who was found beaten to death on her roof by a guy who only a few days earlier had tortured a couple.
He broke into their house, tied them up, raped the woman, set them both on fire.
Police knew he did it, and they said nothing, and then he killed again, and then they came and said, okay, okay, this is getting serious.
These are the things that are happening in our cities.
Don't get me wrong, these things happen, crime happens, all this stuff happens, but it is just...
I don't know what you'd call it.
Shocking coincidence or whatever.
That this guy has been defending the positions that Democrats have taken that have led to this increase in crime.
He has mocked people who feared that you would be seriously harmed by police standing down.
And he lost his life.
dave rubin
Dude, do you know how many people I knew at the height of COVID and the summer of love when everybody was rampaging through everything and they're ransacking all the streets and all of that shit?
How many Hollywood liberals that I knew that were all day long for the previous five years ranting and raving about gun rights who were calling me and other people that I knew on where can we buy guns?
I have a friend who would never want me to be named, but like a big time celebrity person who I knew you know, could get guns, right? And everybody was trying
to, it doesn't even matter the gender of this person, but they were inundated with the amount of
people because when push comes to shove, you know, basic, you know, it's a conservative is just a
liberal mug by reality.
ian crossland
I think this guy actually had a gun.
Is that possible in Philly?
dave rubin
Yeah, no, he said in another Twitter thread that he had a gun, and a guy had previously broken into his house, and he didn't get the gun.
He figured out another way of escalating it, even though the guy was standing in his bedroom or something.
ian crossland
Yeah, this is where the story gets a little deeper.
Like, on face value, you're like, uh-oh, random violence maybe?
But in reality, this guy has had a history with drugs, drug abuse, and he, like what Davey, you were just saying, he at some point in April of this year or some other year, had woke up and a guy was in his room, and he's like, what are you doing here?
Some guy he used to know.
How'd he get in?
I must have given him a key, maybe.
He didn't even remember giving a guy a key to his house.
So this is the guy who at 1.30 in the morning with no sign of a break-in gets shot in his own apartment.
Like, who are those people?
How did they get in if there's no break-in?
And I don't know that the no break-in is definitely confirmed.
Did you confirm that or not?
tim pool
No, I don't know.
ian crossland
I just didn't see any signs of a break-in.
No one mentioned any kind of break-in entering.
So, 1.30 in the morning, guy shot seven times in his own room, has a history of giving his key out to people and not remembering it.
tim pool
Or that's just an excuse because it happened and he didn't want to come out and be like, yeah, but conservatives... I gotta tell you, when David Hogg said, when they were getting rid of the mask mandates, and he says, yeah, but I don't want to take it off because then people think I'm a Republican.
Like, these are the people who Who would rather allow someone to break into their home and kill them than admit conservatives were right?
ian crossland
He actually tweeted that he was ready to die, or something like, I guess I'll die then, or something like that.
Who, David Hogg?
No, Josh Krueger.
unidentified
Oh, this guy.
ian crossland
I don't know, I glanced at it earlier, I didn't save the location of the tweet, but if you scroll down his feed, maybe it's there.
It's tough to talk about because the guy did just die, so we gotta be a little sensitive about the loss of life.
tim pool
But that's the thing, you know, so Mike Cernovich had some tweets out recently about how if Biden wins, He says, have you had the talk with your family about how you'd be framed for a crime so they can kill you or whatever?
And I'm like, a bit aggressive, a bit aggressive.
I don't completely, I should say, I don't disagree with Mike, just a bit aggressive.
And my response was, people don't know, don't understand what happens to a country when they begin arresting their political opposition and lawyers.
I think there's a normalcy bias, people don't want to believe it.
And that's why I like to do the time travel test.
Go back, insert X amount of years, and tell people everything that happened today, they won't believe you.
You go back six years and say Donald Trump will be indicted, they'll go after his lawyers, they'll indict his lawyers, they'll start issuing fines, 200 grand on lawyers who argued on his behalf in the election, people are going to be like, shut up, that'll never happen in this country.
Mention January 6th to someone six, seven years ago, and they're gonna be like, oh, shut up, that won't happen, that's crazy.
ian crossland
Yeah, there's a viral video of the mayor of Chicago in 72.
dave rubin
Oh yeah, we played it on my show the other day.
ian crossland
He was saying that looters, you shoot looters to kill them, or arsonists, you shoot them to kill looters, you shoot to maim, and this is just the governor.
Or the governor?
dave rubin
He was the mayor of Chicago.
Think about how that city has fallen.
Someone can grab his name.
I think he was the mayor in about 72.
You guys remember?
We'll get it.
But it's a great video.
It's like you're watching a competent executive be like, I'll defend the free people of my city, the people who are doing it right, instead of defending the looters and the arsonists and everyone else.
And also saying, in essence, We live in a society, to quote George Costanza.
We either live in a society or we don't.
tim pool
But this is why I am optimistic.
Look, man.
ian crossland
Yeah, it was Mayor Daley.
dave rubin
It was Mayor Daley in 1968.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure because the Daley's ran Chicago forever.
Look, man, when they're aborting their kids, when they're sterilizing their kids, when they would rather... There'll be none of them left, I think.
Exactly.
They won't defend themselves, they won't advocate for the defense, and they will advocate for the machine that hates them.
I'm just like...
If you got a guy who says, no guns, no guns, oh, someone broke into my house, don't worry, I still don't need guns, it's like, well, this dude is not likely to have kids.
And I'm not, you gotta zoom out.
It's never, it's not about what one person does or doesn't do, it's about what most people do, even to tiny, tiny degrees.
If 50.01% of liberals engage in behaviors that result in them having no kids, They're gonna slowly cease to exist, and their ideology will go along with them.
ian crossland
I hope, but communism's been around for a long time.
dave rubin
Yeah, and also if you factor in, like, you know, China using TikTok to brainwash a generation of Americans, it's not as simple as just pure, like, numbers in terms of Thanksgiving birth.
There is an ideological war being waged on children that are converting, right?
tim pool
I agree, but I do think it's, I still think having kids is 10 to 100 times more impactful than social manipulation.
Social manipulation plays a large role, but there's inverse social reaction, right?
So, libertarians, conservatives, post-liberals coming out and saying no to this stuff in school, no to TikTok, get your kids off social media.
Homeschool your kids?
That counterforce, to a certain degree, will negate the effect of China or whatever social manipulation we're experiencing.
You add to that mix, they're literally advocating for things that put their lives in danger or inhibit them from having children.
I think in 20 years, you got a 2-1 Republican advantage.
dave rubin
I hope you're right, man.
How often do you dole out white pills these days?
tim pool
I've been saying this thing for a couple years, and people argue that I'm wrong, and I'm like, because they make the point you made, and I'm like, I agree they're trying to indoctrinate kids, but when you look at what Florida did with the books, saying like, when DeSantis did that press conference where he's like, look at these books, Look at what was in these books, and Nikki Freed said Ron DeSantis posting buttplug porn, and it's like, he's criticizing you!
That right there, as a governor, exposing this and giving them no recourse because all she could do was admit it, that's waking people up.
Like, yes, there are a lot of conservatives.
It's funny, when they come to Tim Cass Diary Studios, and they're like, they say, oh, my kid's going to college next, and I'm like, which one?
And they're like, oh, NYU.
And I'm like, are you insane?
Like, do you watch the show you're about to be on?
dave rubin
Maybe University of Chicago.
That's pretty much it.
That's pretty much it.
A couple others.
ian crossland
Do you talk publicly about how you guys want to raise the kids?
dave rubin
In terms of schooling?
ian crossland
Yeah, stuff like that.
dave rubin
You know, it's funny, not really, but I would say just sort of generally speaking, I mean, first off, we're in Florida where we have really some of the best public schools in the United States.
And it's ironic because, you know, 20 years ago when Florida was thought of as the Golden Girls and this is where everyone goes to retire and there's no income tax, there were bad schools here because older people didn't want to put money towards it and there just wasn't an income tax in the first place.
Now we have basically the best schools in the nation.
I don't, my, I mean, just because of my Uh, public nature, I don't think we'll send them to public school, but regardless, the idea that you just hand your kid off to some state employee, and that they could call your son by the opposite gender name, they can make up a name, and then hide it from you, and the whole fucking machine was like, DeSantis is the bad guy for fighting this, is so bananas.
tim pool
Here's what's crazy, is that these children are reportedly experiencing suicidal ideation, And the state says withhold that from the parents.
dave rubin
Yeah.
tim pool
If the purpose of transition is to reduce suicidal ideation, why would you withhold that information from the parents?
It's a lie.
It is a lie.
ian crossland
What do you think about, like, giving kids access to the TikTok, the internet?
How do you look at that?
dave rubin
Well, I thought Vivek's answer at the debate, did you see that, was pretty poor, actually.
So they asked him in the debate, because he had been talking about banning TikTok for about a year.
And then apparently he hung out with Jake Paul and Jake Paul convinced him to get on TikTok.
So Vivek said, well, I want to get young voters and the Republican Party always loses, so we have to get where they are.
But then when I'm in office, I'll ban it and no one under 16 should be on social media.
And it's like, well, first off, Who gives the President of the United States the right to say who can be on social media and what age you can be?
That's a really bizarro authoritarian tendency that he said right there.
But that's sort of the ends justify the means kind of thing.
Like, do you want to use Chinese spyware and encourage people to be on Chinese spyware so that the day you get the power, you can ban the Chinese spyware?
So no, I do not.
I personally don't have TikTok.
I did not want to use it on my show at all.
My man Brock over here, my social media guy, he wanted us to be on there.
I said, I am not pressuring you at all.
I said, if you want a burner phone to put it on, you go ahead.
And he did that, but I want nothing to do with it.
tim pool
The fake's got it backwards.
You don't ban kids from social media, although I think kids shouldn't be on social media.
dave rubin
But that should be up to the parent, obviously.
tim pool
But it should be that we criminally charge people who post, say, like porn on Twitter.
So if you were a person who was on Twitter and you post pornographic material, then it should be Elon Musk and it should be the person who posted it who are criminally charged for posting it.
dave rubin
You're talking about illegal porn or porn?
tim pool
Nope, any.
dave rubin
But wait, you're saying that's how it should be right now?
I mean, so you want Elon Musk to be held account for legal porn that's on the platform?
tim pool
Yes, I do.
So let's put it this way.
dave rubin
So you have a disagreement over just policy with him because he said it's fine.
tim pool
Right, so imagine you own a bookstore, and that's all it is, it's a bookstore, but you know that a lot of the books in the store are graphic, hardcore pornography, and you allow children in.
Guess what's gonna happen?
If you have an adult bookstore and you allow children in, the police are going to come and you are going to get in serious trouble.
dave rubin
So you want some basic parental rules around Twitter.
I actually don't know, I have no idea.
tim pool
I'm singling out Twitter kind of as the shock value, to say Elon Musk, right?
But the reality is, My question, and we've talked about this quite a bit, how did we get to the point in society where we've decided that we have the internet, which is effectively public streets, and you know what?
You might ask your ten-year-old to go run to the store and pick up a thing of some milk, right?
unidentified
It's no big deal!
tim pool
But then there's someone standing in the street corner and they're waving around a big picture of adults in hardcore adult activities.
The kid sees it, freaks out.
Anybody who sees it, they call the police.
Guess what the police are going to do?
They're going to arrest that guy, and they're going to say, you violated a whole bunch of public lewd and lascivious laws, indecent exposure, etc.
But the internet, which functions essentially in a similar way, it's a public space where people can post things, there's no repercussions for any of these businesses to allow minor children the age of 13 and even younger to access things that would otherwise be illegal to distribute.
dave rubin
So if Twitter had the same regulations related to age that I guess Pornhub has, or something where you have to click something, you'd be okay with that?
You'd need an ID.
Yeah, okay, but you're saying as long as there's some system in place where I just don't know what the deal
I have you want to go action when I signed on to Twitter.
Do you have to say no?
tim pool
Yeah, you want to go to an adult bookstore you walk in to say ID, please
You show me your ID say okay now you're old enough to be in here, right?
That's because we don't want kids going into adult bookstores Twitter should be the same if you if you post lewd and
lascivious adult activities Should put a blur over the image and then only people who
have verified IDs can view These these controlled images, right? It's interesting
dave rubin
because Elon has a different policy on this then you can't do that on Facebook, right?
I haven't been on Facebook in years. I have no freaking clue, but I'm sure you can't right? Yeah, I'm pretty sure
luke rudkowski
You could, but it's extremely borderline.
So when you're on Facebook and Instagram, it's, you know, women with wet t-shirts on and you could pretty much see everything, but therefore it is not her being naked.
It's still somehow allowed.
dave rubin
You can't put porn on Instagram.
luke rudkowski
You can, but it's not explicit.
tim pool
There's a lot of tricks they do to get around it.
One of the tricks they do is, on Instagram, you know how they do the mosaic, where you
upload a bunch of pictures and then it makes your feed red?
dave rubin
Oh, it creates the- oh yeah yeah yeah.
tim pool
So each individual photo is not- but all together they- it's right!
They got the tricks.
They got the tricks.
But my point is simple.
I am not literally saying I believe in the moral absolute position that, you know, we
I am saying if it is the standard right now to say kids can't drink, kids can't look at porn, you need an ID to enter this establishment, why don't we have those same restrictions?
How did the internet come to be that we just assume as a society it should not have these safeguards for children?
ian crossland
Probably because a lot of it was built by 16-year-olds, like, sitting in their room, working on websites.
tim pool
I think it was because it was never taken seriously.
Because in the early days of the Internet, they were just like... It was the Wild West.
dave rubin
Nobody knew what the hell was going on.
tim pool
But nobody used it!
We're now at the point of ubiquity.
The Internet is everything, and we've not stopped to ask ourselves, are we okay with creating public highways and public streets where children can get access to graphic murder, snuff, and hardcore porn?
ian crossland
I'm okay with the highways being there.
We just need to police them properly.
Because if you go after the network for something that happens on the network, you'll end up crashing the whole system.
tim pool
But this is my point.
The person who posts it.
But the solution there is, I don't think we should ban porn.
I think the way Twitter and every platform should work is, if you post it, it is blurred and you can't see it unless you have verified your age.
dave rubin
It would be an interesting conversation to have with Elon.
tim pool
YouTube sort of does this, but they don't have any real... Like, YouTube will age-restrict certain content, but all you have to do is log in and claim you're a certain age.
You don't need an ID.
luke rudkowski
No, no.
Or you could, you know, shove things up you-know-what and still be on YouTube, and that's totally fine, but it's a question... Yeah, yeah, there was a particular video that we can't even pretty much describe that's allowed, and YouTube put their stamp of approval on it.
tim pool
YouTube had videos with millions of hits called, What's in My Bum?
Where they would show people and then they'd have to guess what was and I'm like This is not.
luke rudkowski
Not just items, but other individuals.
unidentified
Right.
luke rudkowski
Pornography has been... Other individuals?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, pornography has been... Wait, what?
dave rubin
There were other people up there?
luke rudkowski
Yes, yes, yes.
dave rubin
What are you saying?
ian crossland
I'm still there.
dave rubin
Like a midget?
What are you talking about?
luke rudkowski
Don't get any ideas here, Reuben.
Calm your horses there, okay, sir?
Another human being was inside of another... Family-friendly show here.
We'll save it for the family... Family-friendly show here, please.
dave rubin
I'm getting too old for this shit.
luke rudkowski
Pornography has been weaponized.
Militaries have used it against populations.
How do you handle that without destroying free speech?
I think is something that I think is worth looking into.
But I think we should always try to prioritize freedom of speech without violating and destroying and running a fifth-generational warfare program on the future of this country.
As of course, it's not just TikTok.
It's not just Instagram.
It's Hollywood.
It's corporate America.
It's BlackRock.
It's the ESG score.
It's the banks that are all working in tandem, destroying the children of this country.
And, you know, I want to agree with you, Tim, but I think when it comes to your kind of white pill moment here, it could go either way.
Because if we look at the kids of Kellyanne Conway, you look at her daughter, you look at Elon Musk, he has a non-binary child.
How in the world did that happen?
unidentified
Why did that happen?
dave rubin
You could lose your kids to the machine.
luke rudkowski
You could also lose your kids to the state with CPS being overly aggressive and going after parents and also abusing and hurting children in other unspeakable ways.
So I think the fight is there.
How do you handle it without giving the government more authority over you?
I think is the question that I want answered.
dave rubin
Well, I think, Tim, without belaboring the point, I don't think you really want to go in to all of the companies and force them to do all sorts of things, but it sounds like, to me, you want at least the internet service providers to have a little more control over things, right?
Because Elon is running a private company.
So, to me, he can do what... My personal belief is he can do what he wants with it.
tim pool
No, I disagree.
dave rubin
Yeah, you don't think he can do what he wants with it?
No, I think... No, if he's... Okay, go ahead, go ahead.
I don't want to put words in your mouth.
tim pool
You can't sell booze to 13-year-olds at a bar.
dave rubin
No, no, no.
Within the confines of the law.
tim pool
Right.
dave rubin
Right.
I think as long as he's within the confines of the law, and that's where we're getting, I guess... He's not.
tim pool
It is illegal to run a business that delivers pornographic materials to children.
Elon Musk is doing that.
dave rubin
I guess, under the way you're saying it.
It's not under the way I'm saying it, it's like... No, I'll take your word for it.
I just don't know exactly what the sign-up process is on all that stuff.
So I believe what you're saying.
ian crossland
I think because you need a bank account.
dave rubin
I signed on to it 12 years ago, I have no idea.
ian crossland
Any internet access, you need to have a bank account.
A kid can't get internet access.
That's not true.
dave rubin
Well, you're talking about Twitter itself, just a service that is quote-unquote free.
tim pool
You can't, like, the fact that these platforms exist and outright say you have to be at least 13 years old to use it means, okay, fine, your parents can drive a kid, a kid can't get to the adult bookstore because it's 10 miles away, so his parents drive him there, but Yeah, they drop him off around the corner, they don't know what he's doing, and then he goes around the corner into the store.
And the kid goes into an adult bookstore, and there is Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk being like, hey, you're 13, you're good to look at all this stuff, don't worry about it.
I don't understand how that is.
ian crossland
Gotta have sensitive filters, but it's hard to make sure that they always work.
And like, to destroy the network because one of them got through is a risky problem.
tim pool
Is the argument that we've come to a point in society where we've decided that porn should be available to children?
Is that the argument?
dave rubin
No, that's not my argument.
tim pool
No, I mean, my point is like, no one will disagree.
It is a fact.
If you go to an adult bookstore, they say, you need an ID to come in, otherwise we'll be breaking the law.
The internet quite literally has porn websites, and kids can go to them without any restrictions.
And when laws were proposed to require IDs for porn websites, these porn websites said no.
They were like, how dare you?
Because, you know, a lot of these companies that run ads, I bet a lot of these kids, a lot of their views come from children.
The joke I made on Twitter is, when you're on the internet, no one knows you're 14.
Because a lot of these politicians, like, you'll see, you'll see, you know, insert politician arguing with someone.
I'm like, you're 40, and that person you're responding to is probably 14.
But how many of these businesses get their money off of viewership, not direct pay, and like, they're running weird ads or whatever, and those kids generate ads.
So my point is simply this, either we agree that we have never allowed children to go to adult bookstores, and we must
maintain that same standard in all areas of the public, which means Twitter must
immediately restrict this stuff, or we agree that, you know what, we've evolved as a society, we now think
children should have access to adult material.
ian crossland
What do you think about erotic text? You ever, there's like erotic novels and stuff?
luke rudkowski
Well then we also have to hold Facebook accountable because a lot of children use Facebook and they send explicit photos of each other over that platform as well.
So if we're going to go after this, we have to go after Mark Zuckerberg as well if we're going to be implementing those laws as well.
So another aspect to really kind of carefully unravel all of this is also just what happened with Twitter a couple months ago.
After Elon Musk took it over, he came out and we found out through the Twitter files That there was even a scenario, a situation, where a child was hurt in very unspeakable ways that we can't mention here on this particular broadcast, and that incident was broadcasted on Twitter.
Twitter knew for about two weeks that this person was a child, was hurt, and the videos of them being hurt in adult ways was being shared on their platform.
Twitter decided not to do anything about it, not even intervene.
The victim was demanding their And demanding that their private photos and videos of them being hurt be taken down, Twitter said, no, we're not going to do that.
dave rubin
You know, one thing I can say in sort of Elon's defense related to that sort of thing, not to your sort of philosophical point, is that when he got there and having met him a couple times now and talked about this stuff, He, there are so many bad people still at that company and he's working to get rid of them and that there were systems in place to do all of the awful things.
Twitter was basically, remember when Jack Dorsey tweeted that we don't shadow ban?
I mean, he actually testified under oath they don't shadow ban.
I went to Twitter.
And I sat with programmers with like 10 computers in front of me showing me the entire system where the entire thing was designed to shadowban.
It wasn't that they didn't shadowban.
Every, every keyword that they used to shadowban, every phrase, I was on like 20, I should have asked them about your account.
Maybe I can try.
They, they, they had crazy lists of all sorts of people.
If you were suspended once, you could be shadowbanned in a certain way.
If you said this word, you could be shadowbanned another way.
So there was already such a crazy system in there that I would say in Elon's defense, you have to give him a little chance to fix some of this stuff.
So like the child porn thing, it's like people knew there was child porn on there and nobody cared.
Then Elon took over and what happened the next day?
Twitter has a major child porn problem.
And I forget who it was.
Maybe it was Cernovich.
Somebody tweeted, you know, it's interesting.
All these articles are popping up about child porn on Twitter.
Nobody, none of the authors who wrote these articles and mainstream pieces had ever written about it before Elon.
tim pool
Right.
dave rubin
So the point is, there's a system in place.
The guy's trying to fight it.
I would give him a little grace on some of that.
tim pool
No, no, no.
My point is not literally that we should storm into Twitter's office right now.
My point is the hypocrisy of saying the conservative values of don't let kids go to adult bookstores and bars, but then ignoring the issue of the internet.
dave rubin
I guess the best thing you can do as a parent, and it's probably the challenge for every parent, is how do you, in a time when your kid is going to be walking around with this freaking thing... Don't give him one.
Right, so that's the challenge, and then you want to be the one parent that doesn't let the kid have it and all that shit.
No, no, I get it.
It's easy to say, and maybe one day if you're a parent, you'll have that challenge put in front of you, and I will, and all of us will, maybe.
You know, like, that's the thing.
It's easy to say it, but then people succumb to it.
tim pool
You know, my attitude is, we see these videos that went viral where the trans high school student or middle school student is beating the girls up.
dave rubin
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Mike Cernovich, I think, had a good point where he said, if you homeschool your kids, they'll be, you know, socially maladjusted, right?
Making the point that they say, don't homeschool your kids because then they won't understand social behaviors and everything, and it's like, if you look at modern public schooling and how kids are behaving, you don't want your kids emulating that.
There's a viral video showing children during World War II who are like nine years old and they sounded like they were 50.
It's like a little kid and he's like, well I quite think it's interesting Hitler's move in, you know, and it's like, is it a child?
It's because these kids were raised by adults.
Kids today are raised by kids.
ian crossland
And they're drugged.
tim pool
And they're drugged, yeah.
The most important point though is that kids today are raised by other kids.
So, the way I describe it is I had three roommates once that were all from Europe.
France, Italy, and Spain, and they all spoke English as a second language.
And they all hung out with each other, as these, like, exchange students.
So when they spoke with each other in English, they made their own colloquial English, because it was a second language to them.
When they tried talking to you, you'd be like, what?
Like, what is that you just said?
dave rubin
Right.
tim pool
They could make up words.
They get something wrong.
They think bird is board.
And he says, board.
You know, the board in the sky.
And then the other guy, who's French, is like, oh, board.
Then they start talking to you about boards.
They're all over the place.
They're eating and pooping.
And you're like, what's a board?
What are you talking about?
They made a mistake.
Reinforce it amongst each other.
Kids do this all the time.
You put your kid in a grade school.
The kids don't care about the teachers.
The kids aren't learning from the teachers.
The teachers are not giving kids behaviors to emulate.
The kids are saying, the teachers are saying, read page seven.
Start.
And then the kids go and socialize with other kids when they should be socializing with older people who are working.
This is one of the biggest problems we have right now.
Conservatives should consider that.
And I think that's why homeschooling is so important.
dave rubin
Yeah, homeschooling, charter schools, you know, blow up the Department of Education, get rid of, you know, you could probably eliminate a quarter of our public schools and put that money elsewhere.
You could fund students, not systems, all of this.
luke rudkowski
Well, it's a Rockefeller education system that's really an indoctrination system that all needs to go, in my opinion.
But we do live in a very strange world where children can't get tattoos, they can't buy pay-per-view, but they could chop off their reproductive organs and they could watch online content.
That really doesn't make sense.
And we do see online content weaponized.
It is destroying children.
It is destroying families.
It is destroying relationships.
It is having a severe effect where people are not having enough children.
We're having a huge population crash that does deserve to be addressed very seriously.
We should protect the children, but at the same time, I do not want a digital identification government federal system.
dave rubin
Watching and telling me what I can and cannot do so I think there's a fine line between the two I think personal responsibility homeschooling children raising your children without a cell phone and teaching them that there is a lot of very bad people out there that prey on their weaknesses that Psychologically lie to them and abuse them and hurt them in many ways where it's it's done subconsciously I I think is something that's going to be very tough But something that's needed more than ever and as a parent you are responsible for your child and no one else is Look, you can be lazy and you can be a not great parent in a time when the system basically works.
But in a time when the system doesn't work, and that's obviously where we're at, certainly at a national level, you just don't have that luxury anymore and you have to get involved one way or another.
ian crossland
Do you think you'll attempt to prevent the kids from getting cell phones?
dave rubin
So I try to push it as late as it's what I agree with Tim in spirit on that like the answer would be no I'm gonna keep them all forever but like you know you get you're gonna figure it I can tell you now like we basically they're only one I got two kids who are one we don't have any TV on ever but every now and again if we need a freaking break for five minutes We put on Miss Rachel on YouTube and she's doing better numbers than Tim Cass.
This woman's killing it, okay?
Now she's like the one that they say you could have them watch and she's not breaking their brain.
tim pool
Just be careful for the auto.
dave rubin
No!
So the auto, what might auto play next?
Sometimes I find, you know, an ad will kick in in the middle and it's an ad about like a shooting somewhere or something.
There's all sorts of weird things related to that.
Now, I don't have YouTube kids, I don't think, so I'm doing it on the regular YouTube or whatever.
But the point is, all of that, it's all easy to say, and the best you can do is the best you can do.
tim pool
Right, but Dave, you don't gotta worry about cell phones, right?
dave rubin
By the time... It's gonna be live to their brain.
tim pool
They're gonna be Neuralink, man.
They're gonna be like, but dad, you know, John at school's got the Neuralink, I want the Neuralink to play video games.
dave rubin
They're gonna print something out of their ass.
ian crossland
Are you gonna get the Neuralink?
dave rubin
Enough, enough.
Just like a little bit of quiet.
ian crossland
Do you think you'd get it?
dave rubin
No, I mean, again, it's one of those things.
It's like we can all say no to all these things.
We can all say, boy, you know, the Matrix was a warning and I don't want to be in Ready Player One.
But then it all comes and then a huge swath of people do it and then it becomes ubiquitous and everyone starts doing it.
And then, yes, some people will kind of not do it.
tim pool
You'll have no choice.
ian crossland
I'm thinking if your kid does it.
dave rubin
Or they'll force you on, because if you're not in the system, they will view you as a terrorist, basically.
tim pool
It's not that.
It's not that extreme.
It's gonna be, you're gonna go to the new Taco Bell kiosk, and they're gonna say, oh, we got rid of touch interface.
It's on neural interface now.
And they'll be like, well, nobody uses touch interface anymore.
So how do I use the kiosk?
Well, do you have a Neuralink?
Like, no.
That's all we do.
dave rubin
Have you seen the hand thing at Whole Foods?
tim pool
Yes.
dave rubin
They have it already.
I saw it for the first time two weeks ago.
tim pool
When we were flying out here in the airport at DCA, they had an Amazon store.
And it was walk in and take whatever you want.
dave rubin
Oh yeah, I've seen them.
tim pool
You walk up, you scan your hand, walk in, take whatever you want, and you walk out.
And I was like, no thanks.
luke rudkowski
Apartment buildings have that right now, where if you want to get to your floor, you have to give them a palm print, and then you get to your floor in the elevator.
dave rubin
You know, this leads to, I mean, this is like Minority Report, where Will Smith, uh, Will Smith.
tim pool
Tom Cruise.
dave rubin
Thank you.
Tom Cruise has to take the guy's eye to get through the thing.
Like, that's where this will all lead.
We're going to be chopping off people's hands so you could buy a fucking, uh, what do they sell it?
Taco Bell now?
Chimichanga?
tim pool
Gordita Supreme?
dave rubin
Chimichanga Crunch!
ian crossland
This is exactly why I'm with what you're saying, Luke, that I don't like the, the, the, the, Security state overlooking and banning porn and restricting this because if someone gets a hold of that apparatus and is like, you know what?
Showing elbows is pornography.
Ban them all.
Like, that could happen if that infrastructure gets built.
luke rudkowski
The individual needs to decide what is right for them, and clearly there is a war against them that is destroying them in many different ways.
How do you have that fine balance?
I think we have to preach personal responsibility, but we also have to live it ourselves.
So good luck raising children.
Uh, it's not gonna be easy.
A lot of people are having a lot of problems, so best of luck to you, as of course, we are already mind-controlled.
tim pool
We are gonna go to Super Chats!
We're gonna go to Super Chats and, uh, take your questions, so smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show, and head over to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member.
Members-only show will be kicking off in about, uh, 25 minutes, and we've got some good spicy stuff to talk about.
dave rubin
Tim, can I do a 10-second fact check, because I got numbers that we were talking It's a great question, I don't know about it.
DeSantis became governor, Democrats had 300,000 more registered voters in
Florida, Republicans now have 500,000 more. So it's an 800,000 swing.
ian crossland
Do you know how many of those were people that switch parties versus how many people
unidentified
immigrated and emigrated? It's a great question, I don't know. But I would say we know
tim pool
nationally it is a large number. Switches? Yeah, and we just had the Dallas
unidentified
mayor, I think it was Dallas, right? Oh, the Dallas mayor, yeah.
dave rubin
Yeah, it was Dallas.
That's your switch from Democrat to Republican.
tim pool
Alright, let's grab some Super Chats.
We got Culture Abduction says first and any update.
Oh, first.
Congratulations, you are the first Super Chat.
Any updates on the Timcast app for Apple?
No.
I'm looking to see if anybody in here, who knows.
dave rubin
Looking at the dog.
tim pool
You're not seeing anybody.
Anyone from the crew is here.
They are not here.
It's in review.
Apple is really hard to get.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So, alright.
What else do we have?
Draxus Storm Shadow says every ballot should have a tear-off tab with serial number on it.
You should be able to take your serial number home and check a website to verify your vote was recorded properly.
Or a receipt, right?
They don't do that?
A lot of places do receipts.
It's a state issue though, so I certainly agree.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Tim, imagine being so dumb, you think a fire alarm is a door handle.
Dems have gotten so used to lying, it comes naturally these days.
Also, why do they care even about January 6th?
It was just a prank, bro.
I do love that idea, that Bowman...
It's, it's, no, come on.
No one really believes that he thought it opened the door.
luke rudkowski
Well, you never know.
I mean, the IQs have been dropping in the United States.
dave rubin
Don't put anything over the stupidity of the American people.
tim pool
I suppose Hanlon's razor, right?
Never attribute it to malice, which could be explained by stupidity.
dave rubin
Although there's definitely some malice involved here.
tim pool
Right?
Did he, you know, the question is, was he trying to shut down the vote or delay it?
Either way, he should get a criminal charge for pulling a fire alarm, right?
ian crossland
Something.
At least an acknowledgment.
dave rubin
Like, moot point.
tim pool
Fire alarm.
ian crossland
Does this open the door?
tim pool
I don't think a judge would buy it.
I think a judge would be like, nice.
Imagine a dude commits a crime.
Imagine a guy who's a kid in school.
ian crossland
Does the trigger make the bullet go out?
tim pool
I thought it would open the door, your honor.
He's like, nice try.
Bangs the gavel.
unidentified
Alright.
tim pool
Fix Bayonet says, Matt Gaetz should draft a bill as a joke that fully funds Ukraine if the Democrats drop all prosecutions of Donald Trump.
Get Peter Zahan on to talk about graphene and hydrogen fuel cells.
ian crossland
Oh, I like that guy.
I didn't know he knew about that stuff.
Let's do it.
tim pool
Alright.
What is this?
AmaSong says, whatever happened to Free Tibet?
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
tim pool
I have no idea.
luke rudkowski
I saw them everywhere.
ian crossland
What's going on in Tibet?
luke rudkowski
They're not existing.
ian crossland
I know there's been Chinese oppression.
tim pool
Yeah, at least I've heard of it.
dave rubin
It's actually just completely fallen off the map.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
tim pool
Nobody cares anymore?
luke rudkowski
I have no idea.
unidentified
Oh.
dave rubin
I've been very busy at work.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
See, we're just out of sight, out of mind.
ian crossland
Inflation, I don't know what to say.
tim pool
Jeffrey Kovar says, did you guys see the U.S.
Debt Clock?
Matthew 2112 was posted dead center on the website earlier.
Jesus is Lord, God bless Tim Kasten and crew.
Was that like a big deal?
dave rubin
Wait, what?
ian crossland
USDebtClock.com.
It's usdeadclock.org.
It's a great website.
tim pool
And they post it front and center, Jesus is Lord or something?
ian crossland
At least I saw a screenshot that said that.
I don't know if it was real.
It looked real.
tim pool
Google it, what do you find?
ian crossland
I'm going there now.
tim pool
I think a lot of people are going there right now.
It's a .gov website?
ian crossland
No, .org.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
ian crossland
It's a private website.
It looks like they've taken it down.
tim pool
Well, just search the news.
Don't search the actual website.
ian crossland
Yeah, I saw a picture of it.
I'll look for it.
tim pool
But I mean, if people report on it, I guess.
Here we go.
Shane H. Wilder says, there are too many things slipped into omnibus bills.
MNSB 2995 had a provision in the 909-page omnibus that legalized abortion up to birth, negated life-saving care for born-alive infants, and ended informed consent.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
What was that?
Was that the recent one?
unidentified
Because how would that, like, how does that get through?
tim pool
That was what I was saying.
They should have just...
Like, when the omnibus is being made, be like, oh yeah, you know, just slide in one sheet of paper that says, like, Donald Trump is president.
dave rubin
Right, because nobody reads that shit anyway.
The simplest way, if any of them wanted to fix anything, and this clearly would never happen, you want to solve something, the Republicans, and you want to get votes from a certain amount of people, how about we cut taxes 25% on everybody and we cut the entire federal budget 25% on everybody?
And we cut foreign aid, like literally 25% across the board.
And I'm sorry, some post office workers I guess are gonna have to go home and some other people.
But how about we just let people have more of their money?
Isn't that the one that they never do?
The one that's the most obvious one?
luke rudkowski
How about you just... Stop spending money that you don't have!
dave rubin
Just stop taking so much money from people and then we'll figure it out.
But that's the one that they can't quite get.
tim pool
Let's see what we got.
Lucuva, Tim, could you ask the guys at Public Square about a feature to show content creators and social media users who share our values?
That is a very, very good idea.
I think they mentioned something about that, right?
I don't know.
We'll bring it up to them.
That would be really great.
I think there was talk of some social component as well, and there should be.
Yeah, a way to interact with people.
Obviously, I think there's reviews and comments already.
So expanding that would be great.
But I think you might be able to just apply, to be honest.
If you run a business that produces something, you probably should be able to sign up for Public Square.
luke rudkowski
That's what I did.
I had to fill out an application for WeAreChange.shop for my vitamins.
I put them on there and, you know.
But he means like... I have American-made products.
tim pool
But they mean you personally for your YouTube channel.
luke rudkowski
Huh.
tim pool
I think that's a good idea, and I think they should do that.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
tim pool
So you can find content creators who agree with American values.
I like Public Square, guys.
Download that app.
It's an excellent tool for winning the culture war.
Where are we at?
What is this?
JJ Rhodes, has anybody ever heard of the Zide Door Church?
Place is wilding?
What is that?
ian crossland
No.
luke rudkowski
No.
tim pool
No idea, but thank you for the super chat.
Leif Hagen says, in a 60 Minutes interview yesterday, Michael Lewis just revealed that SPF tried paying Trump $5 billion not to run in 2024.
unidentified
That true?
ian crossland
Well, I heard that he made an offer for Trump not to run, and that they received a number that might have been $5 billion.
They don't know who they received the number from, if it was from Trump directly, from somebody new, if it was even a real offer, no one knows.
luke rudkowski
But if you're Trump, you obviously think you're getting set up here.
tim pool
What'll happen is, you'll say yes, and then they'll publish a leaked message saying Trump took a payoff for $5 billion.
ian crossland
That's, like, really, really federally dangerous.
Like, I would say illegal.
I don't want to go too deep on that.
luke rudkowski
It happens every day in Washington, D.C., Ian.
Every single day.
tim pool
Alright, Tina Khalat says, please explain how if we can't afford to fund our own country, how and why should we fund someone else's country?
Oh, I actually have a... I can answer this for you.
The idea is, as the BRICS nations attempt to supplant the petrodollar with the yuan, or now they're doing their own BRICS currency, the U.S.
needs to maintain confidence in the U.S.
unidentified
dollar.
tim pool
And how do they do that?
By giving it away.
Seriously.
The reason why they give money for, like, Pakistani gender studies, is so that Pakistan is looking at a pile of cash, China comes over and says, hey, use ours instead, and they're like, look, if we keep using the U.S.
dollars, we get free money, we get to be rich.
dave rubin
These idiots keep printing it.
tim pool
Yeah, so the way it works is, you get ripped off as a regular working class person, the elites who run various countries agree to use the petrodollar, which maintains U.S.
petrodollar supremacy, and that's why we're funding the war in Ukraine and giving money away.
dave rubin
There you go.
tim pool
Yeah, right.
I agree with the MAGA method.
I think that's a better way to do it.
You secure your borders, you bring manufacturing back, you bolster the U.S.
economy, and then you win through trade means, and people are inspired to use your currency because your currency means something in this country.
So, what's the U.S.
dollar good for?
Coming to America is awesome, and I want dollars to spend.
So people will buy dollars from you instead of getting them for free.
But the U.S.
method is, give them the money, tell them to use it, they'll get to be rich, and if they don't, we'll come and remove their president.
That's the current method.
Not a big fan of that one.
I have no idea.
I think we're trying to make it work.
When is Sticks, Hicks, and Hammer coming on the show? Bring him on before he leaves the states again.
Uh, I have no idea. I think we're trying to make it work.
It's just... yeah. Do we have a date for him?
No?
Yeah, okay, I don't know.
luke rudkowski
We were supposed to do that show in upstate New York a long, long time ago.
It was me, you, we were driving up.
I think we were going to Canada.
Weren't we supposed to meet up with him?
In upstate New York?
tim pool
I have no idea.
luke rudkowski
That was a long, long time ago.
ian crossland
Stitch is one of the first people to use Mines.
Like, celebrity, well-known video bloggers.
That dude's tapped in.
tim pool
Let's grab some more Super Chats.
John Jones says, taking the new Brightline train from Orlando to come see you guys in Vice City.
Can't wait for a fun time.
Oh, it's going to be so amazing.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
dave rubin
How amazing that Florida built the Brightline, so now you can go from Orlando all the way down here to Miami.
They're going to build another branch that's going to go from, I think, Orlando to Tampa.
What is it?
Basically, it's a train.
tim pool
High-speed?
dave rubin
High-speed train.
unidentified
Wow.
dave rubin
And they did it in basically no time.
It's clean.
It's new.
It just launched.
tim pool
You know, it's funny.
dave rubin
It just launched last week.
I was going to take it yesterday, come back from Orlando, but something popped up.
tim pool
But this is funny, all the things the leftists demanded, it's Trump, it's DeSantis who have
brought about, like, when they've talked about, we want a four-day workweek, we want better
wages, we want healthcare.
Under Trump in 2019, there were all these news stories about fast food chains reducing
the hours, increasing the pay, and giving benefits.
And I'm like, well, the Republican president gave it to you, now you've got all the leftists
being like, where's the high-speed rail?
dave rubin
It's like, well, you know, in Florida... It's not in California, which they've... How much did they put into that freaking thing?
Like, something like $3 billion?
luke rudkowski
I think they spent the same amount of money building the rail here as they did putting up suicide nets around the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco.
I think it's comparable.
tim pool
That's probably true.
That was $500 million, I think.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, and I think we spent the same amount building here in Florida, the Orlando to Miami rail train.
ian crossland
I read $4 billion.
Was that the number?
$3 to $4 billion.
luke rudkowski
Probably cheaper.
ian crossland
I want to know what the California one has cost.
I'm going to look that up.
dave rubin
Oh, they don't have it.
ian crossland
They need it.
dave rubin
They don't have it and they started before it.
luke rudkowski
They have a Greyhound.
tim pool
Well, you know, at least.
Alright.
Antipathy says, I agree with a Sunday show caller that I would like to see a live show of Timcast on Rumble.
You had your excuses and I can't say that they aren't valid, but why not Solidarity Stream?
Uh, solidarity is not as important as victory, I guess?
I don't know.
Solidarity matters in a lot of ways, but that's like saying, leave the battlefield so you can go celebrate with people who are no longer on it.
ian crossland
Yeah, you could think of it as a sort of decentralization, because if something happens to Rumble...
Something happens to Rumble now.
tim pool
But we put all of our clips on Rumble.
We use Rumble infrastructure for TimCast.com.
We use Parallel Economy for our TimCast memberships.
It is all Rumble Cloud.
And then we just have the live show on YouTube because it's consistently the biggest every
night and we want to get access to the younger generations that use YouTube and be in the
ian crossland
By the way, we didn't talk about this tonight.
You guys hear this Canadian legislation they just jammed through where they want to like police any network that has any kind of, what's the terminology?
Do you know the word?
dave rubin
Well, basically anyone who creates a YouTube channel.
I mean, that's where it's really going is going to have to register with the Canadian government.
And then God only knows what, once you register with them, what they can do to you to shut you down.
luke rudkowski
Europe is passing similar legislation, but CNBC has a very interesting article about California's high-speed rail, and they're reporting that it's running out of money, and for 15 years that it's being built, there hasn't been a single mile of track laid from the rail in California.
tim pool
And people are evil.
dave rubin
And Gavin Newsom's gonna be president.
luke rudkowski
What a world.
tim pool
That's how corrupt the state is.
Here's what you gotta watch out for, Dave.
You see, what happens is California takes off building this big empire, this entertainment industry, and they went there originally to get away from the oppression and the taxation.
They said, we're gonna go to the middle of nowhere, where there's nothing, and do our own thing.
That's typically how pioneers do it.
Then once they got success and wealth, everyone else started crowding around saying, gimme.
Florida's starting to do real well.
Sooner or later, you're going to get a lot of people who are going to want to move in.
They're going to say, give me that.
dave rubin
No, that's true.
What a great challenge that is.
So now we have to be better than, say, California was once it, you know, California was a, there was a guy named Ronald Reagan who was the governor of California, right?
Like there was a California conservative.
tim pool
I think 1992 was the last one.
dave rubin
That sounds about, no, no.
Schwarzenegger was a Republican.
tim pool
Oh, no, no, but I, yeah, I'm thinking presidential.
dave rubin
But anyway, point is, yes, it's a challenge and it's a function of success, right?
Like good times create weak men and you guys know the thing.
So it's like Florida will have that challenge.
More people will come here, and then you have to work harder to defend those rights and defend the good life, basically.
tim pool
Damn right.
luke rudkowski
We don't want that dirty potato man anywhere near here.
tim pool
Well, he's on his way over.
luke rudkowski
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
Are you kidding me?
unidentified
No.
luke rudkowski
Okay, good.
Wait, no, you mean you're coming?
No.
tim pool
He's coming.
luke rudkowski
No way.
ian crossland
He's coming for you.
tim pool
He's coming.
luke rudkowski
He's not welcome here.
I'll deal with the potato man later.
tim pool
He called us and he was like, I've got potatoes for Luke.
And I was like, come on, man.
luke rudkowski
He messaged me too.
He was like, you know, let's finally do the show.
We were supposed to do it.
I'm like, uh-huh.
I literally just texted him.
We were supposed to do a show together and then he ditched on me last minute.
unidentified
Sounds like Seamus.
tim pool
They were doing the Potato Festival.
ian crossland
Just kidding, Seamus.
luke rudkowski
No, there was no Potato Festival.
I would have excused him doing a Potato Festival for not doing a show with me together, but that's a different issue.
I'll be here.
Expect some fireworks.
ian crossland
Seamus Coghlan coming in hot!
All right, what do we got?
tim pool
What is this?
Corey USMC says, working on my birthday, but I have some homegrown chicken tenders and Timcast IRL.
Happy birthday!
And that sounds amazing, homegrown chicken tenders.
Yeah, amazing.
I've got a video I recorded today about a rooster named Andre.
ian crossland
I saw that.
tim pool
About what it means to be a man.
ian crossland
Andre gave it all.
tim pool
Andre, I tweeted about this, he was a rooster who sacrificed himself fighting off a raccoon to save his hens.
dave rubin
How many you got now?
tim pool
Too many.
unidentified
30?
tim pool
40?
More than that.
But we're at two different locations now so probably like I think 90.
ian crossland
Do you guys have chickens?
dave rubin
We had three backyard chickens.
I had Blanche Featherow, Princess Leia, and who was my third chicken?
Was it Kim Kardashian?
We nailed it with the names.
tim pool
We have Margaret Hatcher.
dave rubin
That's good.
That's pretty good.
Feather Locklear.
tim pool
That was another one.
We just gave only the original chickens that we got.
Man, it's crazy.
We got seven, and now we have an obscene amount.
Roberto, the original rooster, his son died.
Roberto had a heart attack and died suddenly.
dave rubin
Yeah.
tim pool
We don't know what happened.
But he has, uh, Roberto Jr.
had several kids.
So now we have, uh, RB3.
Roberto Jr., Roberto the Third.
unidentified
Very nice.
And, uh, it's unfortunate because Roberto... You gonna let them, uh, use phones or what?
tim pool
No, no.
ian crossland
Too young.
tim pool
In fact, we're actually quite concerned they are making more of themselves and would like them to stop, but they've started doing that, you know.
We did incubate a bunch, but now they've started taking it upon themselves to make more of themselves and we're not too fond of that.
dave rubin
Life finds a way, dude.
tim pool
Too many.
dave rubin
Jurassic Park.
tim pool
I mean, it is really amazing when one day you go in there and you hear cheeping and then there's like a, you know, chicken sitting there all flat and like looking at you and yelling at you and there's babies.
It's wonderful.
And then they walk around, they follow the mom and they're eating.
dave rubin
You do know what happens to an egg under the right circumstances.
It can become a chicken.
unidentified
It's bananas.
ian crossland
It does.
tim pool
Yeah, it's crazy.
And you can eat them.
You see at this period where you can eat them in the egg or you gotta wait.
You know, what, like nine months after the egg.
ian crossland
But there's that period where you can't... Some people eat the raw baby chicken.
Not raw, not raw, I don't know why I said raw.
tim pool
No, you ferment it.
They take the egg when it's fully developed, they vinegar it and then bury it in the ground and then wait a month and then eat it rotten or whatever.
luke rudkowski
Baloo, yeah.
In the Philippines they do it all the time.
What is it called?
Baloo?
unidentified
Yep.
Baloo.
luke rudkowski
Baloo, yep.
tim pool
Yeah, but, uh... I was reading something about people in, like, the Arctic Circle eat a lot of rotten meat.
Because the meat itself doesn't have enough nutrients, but the bacteria festers on it, and produces more of the things you need, and then you eat it rotten.
It's better for you.
I don't know if that's true.
I don't know.
But that's something to do with why they do stuff like that.
Here we go.
What is this one?
unidentified
Uh...
tim pool
Lurch says BDS is banned in government work, hardly 1A friendly.
Oh, that's in Florida, right?
What was the deal with that?
luke rudkowski
I think there was a banning of criticism of Israel on college campuses.
tim pool
I think it's like an oversimplification of what it actually was.
luke rudkowski
Exactly.
Yeah, but there was very, you know, that is very troubling legislation.
There also is a red flag.
dave rubin
Well, I don't think it was criticism of Israel.
I think it was companies that were singling out Israel.
luke rudkowski
Boycotting Israel.
unidentified
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
So, so yeah, but still, to me, I don't like that.
I don't like the red flag laws.
I think we should also criticize the state and try to make it as best as we can.
tim pool
All right.
Dick Dickerson says, sorry, Luke, Florida isn't the Alamo.
My free state of Missouri does more for freedom.
luke rudkowski
I don't know about that.
dave rubin
Maybe we don't pay enough attention to Missouri.
I could concede that.
You don't talk about Missouri.
tim pool
I don't know about that.
They arrested the McCloskeys.
luke rudkowski
Oh, right.
tim pool
Yeah.
And St.
Louis.
dave rubin
And then he ran for Senate.
I guess that didn't work out.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, there you go.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Dinner Mint says, Hey Tim, I love your show.
I work for a company that will be starting a coffee and soda shop in Arizona.
I know the owner very well.
It's possible for me to connect you through Discord.
Uh, yes, by all means.
And, uh, you know, a couple of things we want to do.
Obviously, we're getting started with the, uh, launching the first coffee shop, then setting up the corporation and doing the paperwork to properly franchise it.
But, uh, we also want to distribute.
We could have, you know, stores carry Casper Coffee and, you know, whatever.
If not, setting up your own when we are able to.
You know, there we go.
Let's, uh, let's grab some more Super Chats.
What is this?
What is this?
Someone yelling about Luke?
I don't know what they're saying, they're just saying, I just joined Luke.
Hi, it's me.
Not that it means anything.
Hi, Ian.
unidentified
Hi.
tim pool
Alright, Ryan Job, thanks for the super chat.
ian crossland
Thanks, Ryan.
luke rudkowski
Hey, Ryan.
tim pool
Steven says, says, Madison Cawthorn exposed Kevin McCommy two years ago and look what they did to him.
Really, what did he do?
With McCarthy.
dave rubin
With McCarthy, I don't know.
I remember he did that whole thing about it.
They're all having coked up orgies.
I don't know that he mentioned McCarthy specifically.
ian crossland
I want to I want to talk to Kevin because you've said you've interviewed him a couple of times.
Because I get the vibe of the Trudeau vibe from him lately.
Like he's talking like this.
dave rubin
His affect's a little bizarrely soft or something, but I can tell you, yeah, it's a little bit of Cali.
From interviewing him, my gut sense with him is he's just trying on the margins.
It's just not the most brave thing, but he thinks he's trying to do something.
I don't think, when people are just like, ah, he's just an evil sellout, I just think it's too easy to do that.
The guy is, he wants, from what I can tell, he kind of wants to live in the same country we all want to live.
He's trying to do what he can on the margins.
Maybe it's not good enough, maybe it's completely ineffectual, But I don't think he's like, you know, the worst of the worst in that sense.
tim pool
What do we got?
Steve Wanamaker says, can we discuss the fact that all Chase debit cards aren't working and online accounts are not showing balances?
I don't understand how this isn't a bigger story.
People are stuck on grocery store lines.
For real?
Is that happening right now?
dave rubin
I have not.
luke rudkowski
I haven't heard of it.
I haven't seen it.
tim pool
I don't use Chase.
They just had to pay a fine over helping Epstein.
Was that what it was?
Yeah.
So maybe I won't.
dave rubin
There's no money left.
tim pool
Maybe I won't use that bank anymore and I'll avoid...
dave rubin
Wouldn't that be something, though, if that's actually a story and none of us have heard of it?
luke rudkowski
And they also punished a lot of people for their political beliefs and expressions, and they shut down people's bank accounts.
So, yeah, don't bank with JPMorgan and Chase if you don't have to.
ian crossland
This is a Chase Bank Customers Report account glitches, again, from seven hours ago, but this is thinkadvisor.com.
tim pool
Interesting.
Clint Torres says, howdy people, sorry I'm late, but I got stuck in my zipper.
Uh oh.
Ian, looking good bro.
Luke, a true Florida man, has a mullet.
But Mr. Dave gets a pass, cause he's too stylish for that stuff.
Mr. Dave, can I please get a I agree?
unidentified
I agree.
tim pool
Well, Seamus will be here.
dave rubin
It's been a long time.
It's been a long time.
Wait, what was it?
Freedom Tunes, right?
That's the Freedom Tunes guy.
tim pool
Yeah, that's Seamus.
dave rubin
Yeah, that was a long time ago.
What a world.
What a world.
ian crossland
Are you less agreeable now?
dave rubin
I think so.
I'd like to think so.
I didn't even think I was that agreeable then.
It was just one of those things that just became a thing, you know?
I was listening to people talk.
tim pool
But it wasn't real, and what Seamus said was, it was just one time, I think what he said was he heard you say, I agree, and he thought you said it in an interesting way, so he wanted to say it a lot.
dave rubin
Oh, that's good to know.
You know, it's funny, people, when that thing first went crazy, people were like, Dave, are you upset?
And I was like, are you crazy?
Like, first off, I love all these people.
This thing is about my show.
It means that we've done something, even if it's partly making fun of me or they think I'm too soft of an interviewer or whatever.
I was like, this is the greatest thing ever.
It's great.
I did some other thing with him after that.
I forget what it was, actually.
tim pool
If Seamus made a joke about Rick Williams, who said, that's my mom, nobody would click it, nobody would care, and they'd be like, I don't know, what is this?
The fact that everybody knew you and understood the references.
dave rubin
Yeah, I thought it was the greatest thing ever.
ian crossland
I don't know if people tell you a lot, but you kicked the door open on this stuff, like, early.
Like, 2017, you, Peterson, Brett, Weinstein, like, the IDW, whatever has happened in drama and crap, like, you guys I was just kind of early on trying to make sense.
dave rubin
to Brett Weinstein while driving over here today.
I'm as good as ever with JP.
I'm going to do his art conference in London at the end of the month.
A few of the guys have stayed sane, you know, Sam Harris kind of went off
the deep end and some of the others kind of kind of lost it.
But yeah, I mean, I was just kind of early on trying to make sense.
We have no people trying to make sense and that's all I was really trying
to do. And I guess now we're in a major sense deficit.
So it's come around.
tim pool
Thomas TJG says, I'm in California.
They allow them to vote.
There are areas where they hand out CAIDs and phones, allowing them to register to vote.
Send journalists in Hemet and Atalanto area.
You'll find them real quick.
Just drive around.
dave rubin
You know, you remember Colin Moriarty?
Do you remember Colin?
Yeah, Colin, he moved to Virginia, got the hell out of Cali, and he was getting, I think for several years, voter ID, you know, to vote ballots in Virginia, to vote in California.
Like, how much more do you need to know?
They're literally sending them out of state for people who have left California.
unidentified
Yep.
dave rubin
Like, crazy.
tim pool
Yep.
There was that famous, it was that Fox News story where a dude was from, I think, what is it, from Tennessee?
Or from Arizona.
He was like, he was like from Tennessee in Arizona and then they sent a mail-in vote to his house or they claimed he voted.
He was, and he was like, I'm not there.
I'm in college.
I'm, I'm states away.
Makes you wonder, man.
Makes you wonder.
luke rudkowski
Can I read one?
tim pool
Yes.
luke rudkowski
The McGloon Code says, Dave and Tim, if you each buy a new chicken, you could name them Tim Poultry and Dave Ruben.
tim pool
Ruben.
luke rudkowski
I'm going to get chickens when I get chickens.
Those will be the first chickens when I get them.
dave rubin
That's pretty good.
tim pool
That's got to be a rooster.
You got to be two roosters.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
You know, now it's trendy to change genders.
dave rubin
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
tim pool
Roosters actually don't really fight.
It's like a myth.
So we've got Cocktown.
dave rubin
I was gonna say, there's a cock joke here.
Go for it.
tim pool
Well, you know, it's just we got Chicken City, we got Cocktown.
Cocktown is where we put all the extra roosters, because we, you know, I want to eat them, but my brother doesn't want to eat them, so we just don't.
But they do fight sometimes, but mostly they just get along.
It's when you, if you take a bunch of roosters and put a girl in there, then they fight to the death.
dave rubin
Those, I don't know that they still do it, but like that collection of losers that was always making videos about me and you, they're going to totally, they're going to totally grab that one.
Tim Pool wants to eat in cock town or whatever.
tim pool
Well, I mean, you know, in Times Square, we put up a 90 foot, a 95 foot tall picture of my cock on one of the biggest, uh, Roberto jr.
dave rubin
Yes.
No, no, I, we really, I'm familiar with the internet.
tim pool
We really did put Roberto jr.
On a 95 foot tall billboard in Times Square.
dave rubin
And you want to ban that shit on Twitter.
Really makes you laugh.
tim pool
It's a rooster, Dave!
dave rubin
Yes, I got it, I got it.
unidentified
I don't want to ban roosters.
tim pool
In fact, I strongly encourage people to get more roosters.
In fact, I think people should tell the story of Andre the Rooster to their children to inspire them to be courageous and to understand the value of sacrifice.
That's right.
Yeah.
But that video I recorded earlier today is going to be up on Friday, and it's how to be a man.
You gotta learn from a rooster.
All right.
The McGlone code says, Tim or Dave, here's a pair of chicken names for you.
John Lenhen and Yolko Ono.
dave rubin
It's hard to follow the other one, because it was personalized, you know?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Ponyup says, get Colin Moriarty on the show.
I think we were trying to book him a while ago, which we never did.
Well, yeah.
All right, everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, head over to TimCast.com, click join us.
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So we'll definitely want to see you there.
You'll also get access to our Discord server where you can hang out with like-minded individuals and even submit questions and call into the show and talk to us.
So definitely do that.
You can follow the show at TimCast IRL.
You can follow me personally at TimCast.
Dave, do you want to shout anything out?
dave rubin
I'm Ruben Report on the computer.
luke rudkowski
And Cocktown.
Lucanfilter.com is my website.
Three masterclasses, a forum, a members-only shirt, and an in-real-life meetup this October 8th, 4 p.m., here in South Florida, only for members.
Lucanfilter.com.
Ian, give us some words of inspiration with your personal health journey.
ian crossland
Drink more water.
Drink water when you wake up in the morning, and if you've got to pee or poop, do it.
Don't wait.
Your body doesn't know.
You'll just start to hurt if you don't do it, so let it out.
dave rubin
Good night, everybody!
tim pool
See you later!
ian crossland
It's been a pleasure hanging with you, Florida men.
unidentified
All right.
ian crossland
Always a pleasure.
tim pool
Surge, or I guess we'll just, we'll wrap up.
luke rudkowski
Splurge!
tim pool
I don't know if you even have a mic set up.
dave rubin
Yeah, I do.
I just want to mute because there's a lot of echo in here.
Luke, you should work on that.
Anyways, it was good.
Appreciate meeting you, Dave.
Thanks very much.
Right on.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
All right, everybody.
We will see you all over at TimCast.com in a couple minutes.
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