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The beginning is that advertisers are pulling off of Rumble because Rumble refuses to shut down Russell Brand. | ||
Now, most of you are aware, if you tracked the show over the past week, UK Parliament actually sent letters to various social media networks and television networks Effectively demanding that Russell Brand's deals be yanked or his content get pulled. | ||
Now we are seeing big brands like Burger King and HelloFresh pull their ads off of Rumble. | ||
Sparking calls for another boycott. | ||
And I gotta be honest, I've been boycotting Burger King for a long time. | ||
And it's not political, it's just that their food is trash. | ||
So, you know, there's that. | ||
We got a bunch of other stories too. | ||
I mean, the crazy news is that U.S. | ||
Abrams tanks have arrived in Ukraine. | ||
Oh boy. | ||
And now a report from CBS News shows that the U.S. | ||
taxpayer is footing the bill for Ukrainian small businesses. | ||
That's right. | ||
We're not just funding the war, we're funding the lives of your everyday Ukrainian. | ||
Hey man, I like Ukrainian people, but I don't know why our tax dollars are going to paying for their businesses. | ||
That makes no sense. | ||
Well, this might make sense, I guess. | ||
In that context, Canadian Parliament cheered and clapped. | ||
For an actual Nazi! | ||
Yeah, and now they're saying they're all embarrassed, but this is how depraved their cult, zealotry, and support of Ukraine has become, to the point where they will give a standing ovation to a Nazi because he's Ukrainian. | ||
That's nuts. | ||
We'll talk about that, plus, Washington Post is quite concerned their own poll shows Donald Trump beating Joe Biden by 10 points. | ||
Oops. | ||
They're saying, no, no, no, please, it's just an outlier, despite the fact that Trump is leading in aggregate across the board in all these different polls. | ||
Yeah. | ||
We'll get into all that. | ||
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more, we got Patriot J! | ||
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What up, man? | |
Thank you for having me. | ||
Absolutely. | ||
Who are you? | ||
What do you do? | ||
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Man, I'm a part-time rap artist, criminal defense attorney in Los Angeles, political reporter for Breitbart. | |
I do a little bit of everything here and there. | ||
Right on. | ||
Well, thanks for hanging out. | ||
It's gonna be fun. | ||
We also got Andy Ngo. | ||
He's in town. | ||
Hi, Tim. | ||
Thanks for having me back. | ||
Absolutely. | ||
Who are you? | ||
What do you do? | ||
I am a journalist, senior editor at the Post Millennial. | ||
I'm probably most well known for my reporting on Antifa. | ||
Right on, and recently there was something happened, we'll talk about this too, a member of the Democratic Party sent a terroristic threat to shut down one of your events or something like that? | ||
Yeah, so I'm in the U.S. | ||
on this trip because on Friday, September 22nd, I was invited to speak by the Common Sense Society in Richmond, Virginia, an event put on by the Virginia Council. | ||
And it took the third venue for me to actually speak. | ||
The first one was the Commonwealth Club, which is a gentleman's club, and they gave in to a cancel campaign by the extremists far left. | ||
A gentleman's club? | ||
Yes, that's right. | ||
Like a strip club? | ||
No. | ||
Like a social club, right? | ||
Sorry, I forgot. | ||
That's the American colloquialism. | ||
Social club for men. | ||
So they cancelled. | ||
Shame on them. | ||
And then the second was the Marriott Hotel in In Richmond, and on the day of, they cancelled. | ||
And all it took for them in the cave was just for these agitators to call in. | ||
They put out this script with all these lies, saying that I was a neo-Nazi, this was a neo-Nazi event, and armed Nazis was coming, and Marriott Corporate cancelled. | ||
And fortunately, we were able to speak at a community center in the end, and there were about 200 people who came. | ||
There were a lot of attempts to shut it down and there was a person who's a leader in the official Democrat Party group in Richmond, Jimmy Lee Jarvis, who posted a picture on social media saying that he was going to the Andy Ngo event and the picture was of an individual holding up a box of dynamite. | ||
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Wow. | |
Well, we'll talk about that and a whole lot more. | ||
So thanks for hanging out, man. | ||
Glad to see that you're okay and the event went off somehow. | ||
But we got Hannah-Claire hanging out as well. | ||
Hey, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow. | ||
I'm a writer for TimCast.com. | ||
I'm so excited to be here with this West Coast contingent. | ||
Search is here too, finally. | ||
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Yes, I am back. | |
Thanks Carter and thanks Kellen for taking care of this while I was out. | ||
I'm excited to meet you guys both. | ||
Let's get started, Tim. | ||
Alright, here's the first story from the New York Post. | ||
Burger King faces boycott after yanking ads from Rumble over Russell Brand accusations. | ||
There's so much crammed into this headline. | ||
Russell Brand accusations, Rumble defends it, Burger King boycotts. | ||
Man, that's like, each of those things are big stories just piled on top of each other. | ||
They say that Burger King hasn't publicly stated why it recently removed its adverts on the popular site. | ||
Just as other brands like ASOS and HelloFresh recently did, social media users have questioned the timing of the move, which came just one week after Brand came under fire. | ||
The Whopper House has since been bashed for pulling its ads from the self-proclaimed free speech platform before Brand has actually been convicted. | ||
Burger King has pulled its head from Rumble because the free speech platform refuses to pledge judge, jury, and executioner of Russell Brand after the UK governor demanded the platform demonetize him. | ||
UK governor? | ||
Who's that? | ||
Is that a reference to somebody? | ||
I'm not familiar with that position in the UK. | ||
I know it was a UK parliament, uh, member of parliament, right? | ||
Yeah, I think that's probably a typo. | ||
It was a member of parliament. | ||
Yeah, member of parliament sent a letter out to all these different networks. | ||
Reminder, Brand has not been convicted of a single crime. | ||
Boycott Burger King they hate free speech and due process and their food is poison anyways stop eating it I just want to pause and say if you've been eating Burger King for any reason Please don't. | ||
I think Burger King is just awful. | ||
But that's just my opinion. | ||
I mean, I'm not gonna besmirch the good name of Burger King, I guess. | ||
Is this Charlie Kirk saying it's poison? | ||
I wonder what the legalities on that, calling it poison, are. | ||
I think that's like... I don't know if you can say that. | ||
But I guess it's an opinion statement. | ||
I think Burger King is unhealthy. | ||
And I think it would be very funny if Burger King started suing people for claiming their food is bad for you. | ||
Because it is bad for you. | ||
You know, their onion rings? | ||
I don't even know what their onion rings are. | ||
I gotta be honest. | ||
I think their onion rings are potatoes. | ||
No, for real. | ||
Have you ever had Burger King onion rings? | ||
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Like, years ago? | |
I'm pretty sure it's... Well, in my opinion, it does not taste... It's not an onion. | ||
Like, it's some kind of mashed something or other they cut into a ring. | ||
Yeah, just not good. | ||
Anyway, yeah. | ||
Here we go. | ||
This is the next story we have from The Guardian. | ||
Firms pull ads from Rumble platform over Russell brand videos. | ||
So it's Burger King, Asos, and HelloFresh have removed these ads. | ||
And now we're getting people calling for a boycott of these companies. | ||
And this is in a public statement posted on Next. | ||
Rumble called the letter disturbing because the government came out. | ||
So basically this is where we're at. | ||
I think what we're seeing here is actually a move to begin to remove Rumble. | ||
In this story from The Sun, they say, I'm an online expert. | ||
Russell Brand's refuge platform, Rumble, may be forced offline under new internet safety laws. | ||
Rumble may go the parlor route. | ||
What do you guys think? | ||
I mean, I think Russell Brand is obviously being treated completely unfairly. | ||
You know, he doesn't even have a way to defend himself from these allegations because nothing has been filed in a court of law. | ||
So other than Rumble support, Rumble saying, basically, you don't need to leave our platform. | ||
He doesn't have a lot of recourse here. | ||
And that's a bizarre position to put in. | ||
I mean, what is he going to do? | ||
Well, the question is, well, are they targeting Rumble? | ||
Are they going to go after Rumble and try to get Rumble taken down? | ||
Advertisers pulling off the entirety of the platform because Russell Brand is on it? | ||
How does that make sense? | ||
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I think we need to figure out some sort of way for people to just fund these websites. | |
I'm sure they're... I'm not familiar with Rumble, but I'm sure that they have subscriptions or things like that, but we really need to get back to, like, users funding this because the advertisers have so much power. | ||
True, but the advertisers on platforms like YouTube gave birth to the influencer ecosphere. | ||
It's a whole generation of media that's really disruptive. | ||
I mean, as much as, you know, podcasts and alternative news, really it's the influencer web that drives these things, which for the most part is predominantly funded by advertisers. | ||
It seems unfair that, you know, people looking to have an alternative to YouTube would not be able to participate in Standard retail advertising dollars. | ||
I mean, not that you should buy everything an influencer sells. | ||
On the other hand, in addition to unpersoning Russell Brand, there's an attempt to unplatform Rumble itself. | ||
I buy a lot of stuff off Instagram. | ||
Basically, if Instagram shows it to me, I'm buying it. | ||
Because, you know, they're ripping through my private data and the algorithms know you better than you know yourself. | ||
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Right. | |
And so then you get this ad for like, I don't know, this UFO thing. | ||
I got an ad on Instagram for it and I was like, I must buy this. | ||
And so I did. | ||
And then they added that shot feature to make it easier. | ||
Creepy. | ||
We really need to commend Rumble for not giving in to the pressure campaigns that they're probably feeling from every direction right now. | ||
YouTube should be condemned, I think, in the strongest terms for demonetizing Russell Brand based on accusations in the media where he has really no recourse or ability to respond other than through the media space. | ||
And the BBC has been pressured into removing old content that features Brand, so he's losing royalties from there. | ||
With that said, I do want to caveat that I think for all the people that came out, have come out immediately in defense of Mr. Brand, I'm just concerned that the backlash against Believe All Women is is becoming now the flip side of believe no women. | ||
And I actually think that the Sunday Times investigation was very thorough. | ||
And I think the allegations are credible. | ||
With that said, though, they are anonymous, and they're placed entirely in the space of a media PR battle, not through a civil lawsuit, and no charges have been filed in the criminal space. | ||
So For a man now, who's having his entire career unravel in a matter of hours, it's a deep injustice, and it feels... Yeah, I don't find them credible. | ||
You don't? | ||
No, I mean, first, I'll defer to you, I mean, I've only read the articles about them, right? | ||
But my issue is, if Russell Brand has a relationship with someone, no, not even Russell Brand, if a man and a woman have a relationship, and they argue with each other, and they fight, You can say that, you know, 20 years later, oh look, here's text messages showing them fighting, him saying, well you apologize, I know I acted poorly last night, and the assumptions you can make based off of a 20 year old story. | ||
So there's a text message between Russell and this woman. | ||
The reason why I view this stuff as... I don't know. | ||
Not worthy of news, in my opinion, is for one, the media absolutely loved everything he was doing all that time ago. | ||
People change, whatever. | ||
If the argument is he shouldn't do this, well, he's not doing it now, okay? | ||
So it's been 20 years. | ||
The issue I have is let's say you, Andy, got into a fight with someone and you texted them saying, it was really inappropriate what you did last night. | ||
I demand an apology. | ||
I can't believe you would do that to me. | ||
And what happened? | ||
He stiffed you on a bill at a bar. | ||
And then it says like, look, when I tell you this is how it's going down, you can't, you can't do this to me. | ||
I am furious. | ||
And I'm so sorry. | ||
I'm so sorry. | ||
And then later 20 years, you're like, oh, that text, uh, that was rape. | ||
And it's like, no, no, no, no, wait, hold on. | ||
That text was about something totally different. | ||
It's 20 years later. | ||
What do you do? | ||
The problem I have with these accusations 20 years on is that You can take a legitimate relationship and then just say 20 years later, oh, that was not consensual. | ||
What, how do you even prove that? | ||
I'm not saying, like, there are challenges in the law, but the weirdest thing about how the law is handled today is that when it comes to murder, there are cold cases where there's a person who's been suspected of the murder and we're like, what do we do? | ||
And then people are just like, I don't know, I think he might be the murderer, but we really don't know. | ||
But then when it comes to issues like this, it's like, destroy his life entirely because of anonymous accusations There's the police are just now opening investigation so I suppose my point is it is almost impossible for accusations this this far this this old to be credible. | ||
I don't know what you do to make them credible that being said. | ||
There can be new evidence. | ||
I'm sure things can emerge. | ||
There's like a video Russell made of himself where he's like, I can't believe that I actually did that to those women last night. | ||
It's true, blah, blah, blah. | ||
And it's from 20 years ago. | ||
And you're like, oh, wow, there's evidence. | ||
Evidence exists. | ||
For the time being, they've only just started an investigation. | ||
So it's like, sure, man. | ||
I wouldn't call it credible. | ||
And actually, at this point, I agree with you when you say it shouldn't be believe no women. | ||
It's true. | ||
But we're talking about, Believe All Women is supposed to be, a woman goes to the police the next day, or maybe within a week, and you know, she's traumatized, she doesn't know what to do, and then she makes an accusation, we say, okay, we will believe, we will operate under the assumption the accusation is true and correct, and investigate. | ||
It's not supposed to be that 20 years later, someone comes out to the news and the press, and says, oh, that famous celebrity, yeah, he did a bad thing to me, and then advertisers pull ads off a platform because he's on that platform. | ||
None of this makes sense. | ||
Why would the UK government try to get Russell Brand banned? | ||
That makes no sense. | ||
That makes the claims... It strikes at their credibility, outright. | ||
Like, for sure, you can make the argument that the member of parliament was just exploiting a crisis situation for political gain, but it just... I just don't see it. | ||
Um, well... | ||
I think the actions of these third parties who are now politicians, activist groups, online activists, I think their actions shouldn't necessarily affect the credibility of those who have come forward. | ||
These are third parties that have their own ulterior motives. | ||
The MP will have her own reasons to try to elevate her name and profile in the press through these type of actions, as well as other individuals who have place pressure to try to destroy the career of Russell | ||
Brand. It's just, I think, you know, I've been through, I've been the victim in, or I've, | ||
I've been through a trial, a criminal trial where I was a witness who testified and | ||
made allegations in a criminal matter before. And that process I think has... | ||
It helped me understand potentially why some victims don't go forward. | ||
The process of being cross-examined and gaslit and reliving over and over a really traumatic experience, it really destroys you. | ||
And that then kind of opened my eyes to why I kind of understand why some women, for the first time, it made me understand perhaps why some people don't immediately go to law enforcement. | ||
However, that doesn't mean that I support them that decades later, years later, then they go anonymously to the press. | ||
Yeah, I got to be honest, I don't care. | ||
I don't play to this emotional argument of, oh it's so hard and it's so emotional, you know. | ||
It was very difficult for people to do this. | ||
They say, oh, victims have a hard time. | ||
That sucks. | ||
Sorry. | ||
Have a nice day. | ||
The justice system is not supposed to be, your feelings are hurt, so we're going to destroy a man's life over it. | ||
The justice system is, yes, we recognize there are hardships. | ||
We want to seek the best outcomes for justice. | ||
That means if there is a guy who is abusing women in large numbers, then definitely we're going to try and solve for that problem. | ||
However, If you, as the victim, are unable to provide evidence and testimony in a meaningful manner in a time-appropriate manner, then that's it. | ||
The legal system is not supposed to be bent because some people have hurt feelings. | ||
I do not accept that. | ||
I mean, that's the UK. | ||
I can't speak for London. | ||
I can say for the United States, I absolutely reject the idea that we would have to put someone's freedom and liberty at risk to protect the feelings of another person because, oh, they felt bad. | ||
Sorry. | ||
You need to have evidence. | ||
It needs to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. | ||
And what we're seeing now is, in line with so many other BS moments throughout the past couple of decades, or a decade or so, where people have been falsely accused, and Julian Assange, a great example, the media lied about everything. | ||
They use it to destroy his life. | ||
They didn't just fire him. | ||
They locked him up, and they have him locked up to this day, despite the fact we know the accusations that were made were completely untrue. | ||
So when you get a Jeffrey Epstein who gets away with it and gets protection from the media and the press, and then later it's like, whoops, all of that was true, forgive me if I don't believe you when you go after a Julian Assange and you're ignoring the people on your side and you're targeting the people who are not on your side. | ||
All I see right here is... | ||
When multiple agencies pull off a rumble, Occam's Razor suggests a coordinated effort to do so. | ||
When Alex Jones got banned, I think it was, was it 2018 or was it 2019? | ||
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2018. | |
2018. | ||
All the networks did it at the same time. | ||
There's an argument to be made that they were just waiting for, you know, one, you know, Twitter's like, as soon as any other company makes a move, we'll do it too, or You likely have a scenario where there was some political agenda. | ||
In the instance of Alex Jones, we don't know definitively. | ||
But in the instance of Russell Brand, we know for a fact the UK government solicited networks and platforms to remove Russell Brand. | ||
So why are these ads now being pulled from Rumble? | ||
Likely because the same people in the UK government are now targeting anybody who's sponsoring Rumble. | ||
I don't think it's as simple as to say a couple activists called Burger King and said, oh, you know, you guys are running ads on Rumble. | ||
No, it's more like a national security letter gets sent out saying you will do this now or else. | ||
Or maybe they don't need it. | ||
Maybe a member of parliament contacts your head of legal office with a shakedown letter and Burger King's like, listen, we do not Need rumble. | ||
44 million users. | ||
It's not worth a permitting headache with the UK government. | ||
We're generating hundreds of millions of dollars out of the UK. | ||
Let's just let it go. | ||
I don't know. | ||
Is Burt King in the UK? | ||
They're in the UK, right? | ||
I don't think they make that much money. | ||
But that's my point. | ||
If right now it's come to the point where you have four women who, for whatever reason, did not, you know, come out with these allegations, and it's now 20 plus years later, 10 or 20 years later, I'm just like, You know, prove it. | ||
That's all that matters, right? | ||
You need proof. | ||
Do you have a take as a criminal defense attorney? | ||
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Yeah, I mean, Tim's right. | |
You need proof. | ||
You have to meet a certain burden of proof. | ||
It's really hard to believe women 20 years after the fact. | ||
So these situations do occur. | ||
I would encourage individuals who are victims to report it as soon as possible rather than waiting decades down the line. | ||
And you notice it always happens when they're in the spotlight for something or when they're leaning on the right side because none of these allegations were ever brought when Russell Brand was like a darling of the corporate media. | ||
He was totally fine. | ||
Nobody said anything. | ||
Now he's more independent. | ||
Now you see them trying to come after him. | ||
And it just seems very coordinated. | ||
They didn't say anything when he married Katy Perry. | ||
Oh yeah, yeah. | ||
Why does the media care? | ||
How come the media did not care about Epstein? | ||
In fact, they covered up for him, but they care so much about Russell Brand. | ||
I don't buy it. | ||
Not for one second. | ||
They all of a sudden care about Russell Brand. | ||
They all of a sudden need to have the ads pulled. | ||
They all of a sudden are realizing his shows have to get pulled off the BBC Channel 4 and YouTube or whatever. | ||
What? | ||
I don't buy it. | ||
Sorry. | ||
Have a nice day. | ||
Epstein, they knew. | ||
Epstein had been charged. | ||
I think it was like in the 2000s. | ||
They knew what he was doing. | ||
He got a sweetheart deal and was let go. | ||
So where was the media on this one? | ||
Now, you can argue that Epstein was blackmailing powerful individuals. | ||
Okay, where was the media? | ||
Because this exposé on Russell Brand is the Sunday Times, it's Channel 4. | ||
All of a sudden, one day, somebody at these networks, they're just like, you know, I'm really concerned about Russell Brand. | ||
I'm gonna go dig around for 20-year-old accusations. | ||
What? | ||
Someone started, you don't understand this. | ||
Someone started, some journalist decided to start soliciting No, I mean, for real, look, if he was doing these things, that's bad, for sure. | ||
But it's a weird thing for the media to immediately want to pick up, especially when it's coming from corporate narrative establishment government media sources. | ||
Quite literally. | ||
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So. | |
It seems weird, and he's in an impossible position because there's nothing going on in court, right? | ||
So he could file, let's say, a defamation suit, maybe, against these anonymous people, but then he is adding to this narrative that he is the aggressor, right? | ||
He's going after these theoretical victims who aren't even being named, and therefore he's trying to get lots of money out of them. | ||
There's no good look for him in this scenario. | ||
I get what you're saying. | ||
I think I agree. | ||
I think it is complicated for a lot of people to decide to go through the trial process. | ||
I don't think cross-examination is easy. | ||
But the fact that this was solicited from a reporter is so strange. | ||
Yeah, I mean, what Me Too, I think, has done is it's in many ways actually discouraged victims to speak out when they want and to who they want, like the media, rather than To law enforcement. | ||
I think law enforcement in reporting is so key for victims to get justice when you, I mean, you wait so many years and statutes of limitations pass, your memories is blurry, evidence is lost and destroyed. | ||
It's just, yeah, the Me Too has been more about, I think, Giving space for people to tell these stories where they can actually never be falsifiable. | ||
And that's, you know, there's... And in that case, you can never even wait for a due process to play out. | ||
I see a lot of people responding, like, Centaur's response on social media, we should withdraw, withhold judgment and wait for just this process to play out. | ||
But there is no process playing out. | ||
So it's... | ||
You know, so I have criticisms going in so many directions here. | ||
I reject all of the accusations and allegations against Russell Brand. | ||
I mean, it's a pattern. | ||
But one of them went to a rape crisis center at the time. | ||
Yeah, and considering the political state of this country, considering the actions being taken against them, considering the motivations of the press, Sure, but I won't give the benefit of the doubt. | ||
Sorry, not happening. | ||
It's just, there are so many bad people and criminals who are getting away with everything that what we end up seeing is law enforcement choose to go after certain people when it benefits them politically. | ||
That's the nature of the West today. | ||
So when I see 20-year-old accusations, it's Brett Kavanaugh all over again. | ||
Sorry, don't care at all. | ||
You want to investigate, you want to prove it, by all means, please do so. | ||
You prove it in a court, fine, I get it. | ||
But now, does anyone actually even believe these courts? | ||
You got Donald Trump and that story of that woman in New York, that he went to that department store. | ||
Carol E. Jean. | ||
Yeah, what was the department store? | ||
Bergdorf Goodman's, right? | ||
Yeah, Bergdorf Goodman's. | ||
And it's the busiest place with the most famous man, arguably, in the city. | ||
He owns the hotel next door. | ||
Nobody noticed, Donald Trump with no security, going to the second floor I think it was, and then a New York jury finds Donald Trump accountable, liable, for this assault or something? | ||
Sexual assault. | ||
That's insane! | ||
That's insane. | ||
So sure, fine. | ||
Still don't care. | ||
I don't care. | ||
The weaponization of it is just so thick and so intense, I'm giving no one the benefit of the doubt. | ||
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I think the silver lining from the Russell Brand story is that people who care about free speech and due process are actually standing up and they're boycotting these companies who are pulling funds from rumble advertising. | |
I think it's really good to see the conservative boycotts that have been happening all year. | ||
It finally feels like we're trying to make our voices heard. | ||
Yeah. | ||
See, the issue is every single time Something happens. | ||
Or, I shouldn't say every single time, but typically, there have been major political moments over the past several years, and you get conservatives, libertarians, and post-liberals all trying to do the reasonable thing. | ||
Okay, like you said. | ||
Oh, we'll hear this one out. | ||
And what happens? | ||
Bonk. | ||
Turns out to be nonsense. | ||
I remember, uh, when George Floyd, the George Floyd video came out. | ||
And we all were like, yeah, that video's bad. | ||
Like, that should not have gone down that way. | ||
And then you, you get the body camera footage and learn a lot more about what was really happening and now you're like, okay, so it's, it's tragic, but... | ||
It's a bit different than the way they put it. | ||
The original video of George Floyd is a guy being- he's on the ground and they're kneeling on his neck and he dies and it's like, whoa. | ||
Then you learn the dude was chewing a speedball behind the wheel of a car. | ||
The police brought him out. | ||
Floyd demanded, begged, and screamed to get me out of the car and put me on the ground. | ||
He had a cocktail of drugs in his system. | ||
Still, he should have been given proper medical treatment. | ||
You know? | ||
But it's nowhere near what actually went down. | ||
Ahmaud Arbery is the most egregious. | ||
The people who... I know conservatives who still don't know the real story of what happened with Ahmaud Arbery and the McMichaels. | ||
And we've had people on this show come on and be like, well, the Ahmaud Arbery thing, that was justice. | ||
I'm like, are you kidding? | ||
Did you even watch that? | ||
I'm sick of this. | ||
Russell Brand, in the corporate press and in the movies, is celebrated. | ||
Oh, this woman went to the police? | ||
I'm glad she did. | ||
If there's evidence that comes out, so be it. | ||
Then Russell Brand should go to prison, if it's true. | ||
Not police, the rape crisis center. | ||
Okay, well then I don't believe it, sorry. | ||
You need evidence to convict somebody. | ||
There's a lot of things people can do, and there's a lot of fake things people do, but my point ultimately, We have spent all of our time giving the benefit of the doubt to so many different people who are evil. | ||
At this point, I'm just like, you know, I don't know, maybe it was 20 years ago. | ||
You prove it, we have a story. | ||
If not, I think it's being used to target Rumble. | ||
It's being used to stop Russell Brand from producing high-profile, high-traffic anti-establishment media. | ||
And they're pushing a conspiracy theory that the only reason Russell Brand actually opposes the establishment is because he was trying to build a base to protect him from accusations against them? | ||
It's psychotic. | ||
Total BS. | ||
Sorry. | ||
I'm not buying it. | ||
Anyway, I think that horse has been beaten to death, and we're continuing to beat it. | ||
But we'll jump to this story, because I want to show you the depravity of the establishment. | ||
It's from NBC News. | ||
Standing ovation for a Ukrainian who fought with Nazis sparks anger and an apology in Canada. | ||
I'd like to slow down for you all and just rephrase that headline, NBC News. | ||
Uh-oh. | ||
How about, Canadians give standing ovation to Nazi. | ||
Does that work for you guys? | ||
There you go. | ||
Yaroslav Hanka, 98, was recognized by lawmakers shortly after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky addressed the Canadian Parliament. | ||
Why are they celebrating a Nazi? | ||
This was very hard for me to understand. | ||
They said that they brought him there because he was a Ukrainian and Canadian hero. | ||
Canadian hero? | ||
Because he's living in Canada, so he has, you know, residency there. | ||
But then very quickly said, oh, we actually forgot to do a background check and look him up, which if you compare this to the State of the Union, anytime they're like, and tonight with us is Andy Ngo, a journalist, like someone has vetted this person. | ||
Surely that's why they are. | ||
They didn't just walk into the chamber and happen to take a seat, right? | ||
The idea that this person was not researched beforehand either shows that the entire Canadian government needs to consider restaffing or that they were aware of this but didn't understand the implications of... Well, they don't care. | ||
I think Canada does care. | ||
I think they are just not aware of any sort of form of history. | ||
I think they are Nazis. | ||
You think all of Canada's Nazis? | ||
No, I think the people like Trudeau, they are Nazis. | ||
They learn to masquerade and shield their eugenicist, racist policies and cheer for Nazis. | ||
So the big irony here is that the Speaker of the House of Commons in the Canadian Parliament, so he's with the Liberal Party, that's Trudeau's party, invited him and the Nazi war veteran. | ||
Apparently, all they had to hear was that he served on a unit that fought the USSR, but didn't ask whether, well, fighting against them on behalf of who? | ||
Well, fighting on behalf of the Nazis. | ||
It was an SS unit. And I guess people should remember that just a year and a half ago, | ||
January 2022, when the Canadian convoy protests were happening, the Liberal government, Trudeau, | ||
condemned them and said that they were using Nazi symbolism and Nazi imagery and racism. | ||
And here they are now, Prime Minister Trudeau next to President Zelensky and the entire parliament giving a standing ovation to not just an accused Nazi or somebody who's accused of being far right, but an actual Nazi veteran. | ||
Yeah. | ||
He was a, he served in the 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS, a Nazi military unit whose crimes against humanity during the Holocaust are well documented. | ||
Well, there you go, Canada. | ||
I think they have no understanding of history, right? | ||
Right now, Russia is the big enemy. | ||
And so anyone who fought against Russia seems good, but they have very little understanding of actual World War Two history. | ||
So they don't understand that they do. | ||
I'm not, I'm not willing to rule out that they do, but I just think a lot of it is someone said, oh, this would be a great viral moment where we stand up for this and they had no idea because they're just not well-versed. | ||
Okay, well, you know, I'm not going to give them the benefit of the doubt here. | ||
Let's, let's, we'll do this. | ||
Okay, so they're in Canada. | ||
What can I say? | ||
It's Canadian, right? | ||
Well, let's talk about here in the United States. | ||
In the United States, Trudeau would be a progressive. | ||
He would be aligned with the left and leftists to a great degree. | ||
government in the United States, right? It's progressives, right? I'm not trying to, it's | ||
not a trick question. In the United States, Trudeau is, would be a progressive. He would | ||
be aligned with the left and leftist to a great degree. | ||
Okay. Um, are leftists antisemitic? | ||
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Yes. There's not, that's not a question. | |
You look at Black Lives Matter and their support, or I should say, many of these prominent celebrities who supported Black Lives Matter and also support Farrakhan and the things he said, unsurprising. | ||
You look at the article from Tablet Magazine about when they went to the Women's March, the organizers, and were pushing anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, unsurprising. | ||
I just gotta be honest, I would not be surprised if eugenicist anti-semites who share political views happen to cheer for a Nazi. | ||
I mean, is that surprising to anybody? | ||
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You're like, okay, so they're eugenicists, they want racial segregation, they, uh, like, what more are we supposed to argue here? | ||
That they use a different word for whatever it is there? | ||
Okay, fine, I don't care, call them whatever you want, they're the same thing. | ||
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It's so funny to me that in a society where everything is racist or anti-semitic, everybody can get accused of this except for people who are aligned with supporting Ukraine, including the actual soldiers themselves. | |
Oh, yeah. | ||
I mean, you know, Russia goes the other direction. | ||
They try and claim that everything happening is denazification. | ||
And I'm like, that's stupid, too. | ||
Like Russia is not invading Ukraine because there's Nazis there because they want access to Crimea. | ||
But, you know, Russia is now clipping this thing of Zelensky being there and plotting the actual affiliated Nazi and being like, see, we told you we're here for denazification. | ||
It's also the story has also become a big scandal in Poland because that particular unit that that elderly man was part of was involved in a lot of slaughtering of a lot of Poles. | ||
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Yep. | |
But they didn't know! | ||
They didn't vet him! | ||
It's an accident! | ||
That's the stupidest lie I've ever heard. | ||
I just can't, like, how could you even pass that off? | ||
I mean, it's ridiculous. | ||
I can't say whether or not they're all antisemitic and eugenicists, but they're definitely stupid. | ||
Well, as I often say, it's the banality of evil or it's malicious evil. | ||
How many of them are actually maliciously anti-semitic eugenicists? | ||
Eh, there are probably a few. | ||
But they're smart enough to get a bunch of morons to clap and cheer for a Nazi. | ||
So all you need to understand about how stupid these people are and how dangerous they are is that they don't know or care who they are clapping and cheering for. | ||
It's like when Joe Biden said, Trinidad and Shabba to pressure and the crowd goes, yay! | ||
And they're all clapping and cheering and you're like, this is crazy. | ||
Joe Biden goes on stage and says, Batacav Care, and everyone's just clapping and cheering. | ||
They don't know what he said! | ||
They just know they're supposed to clap, and so they did. | ||
It's frustrating to me that, um... | ||
Often quite educated people. | ||
So they're very good at recognizing propaganda from Russia and good for them for that and calling it out. | ||
But the propaganda that is coming out from Ukraine, it's like they just there's no scrutiny of any of it. | ||
And there's so much propaganda, this whole, you know, this one turning a blind eye to the contemporary connections to Nazi organizing in Ukraine. | ||
That's completely now no longer an issue to liberals around the world. | ||
And then Ukraine now being reframed as this bastion of liberal and progressive values when that's not the reality of what that country is, nor their society. | ||
No, I think it's all political theater. | ||
I think so much of this is just people not willing to question Ukraine in any instance at all. | ||
And so you can't call it any propaganda because you're not allowed to doubt Ukraine's motives in anything. | ||
You're not even allowed to have any kind of doubt. | ||
You're supposed to submit entirely to supporting Ukraine and never question any of it. | ||
I mean, look how much money we have shipped over to Ukraine. | ||
Why? | ||
Because we're just supposed to. | ||
And those who do speak out are then smeared as somehow fans of Russia or fans of Putin. | ||
I mean, yeah, the smear tactics just causes people to become fearful. | ||
And I think so much of it is just a lack of understanding of geopolitical history, right? | ||
They have no idea what the ties are. | ||
You know, they don't know what happened in Crimea. | ||
They don't know what to say. | ||
They just know right now it's good to have your blue and yellow flag out and to agree with whatever Biden says and therefore whatever Zelensky says. | ||
Yes. | ||
They want a simple story of villains and heroes. | ||
Who's a good guy and who's a bad guy. | ||
And then it leads them to do stupid mistakes. | ||
I think it was a genuine mistake like what happened in the Canadian Parliament. | ||
Oh, a Ukrainian World War II hero veteran. | ||
Great! | ||
Let's invite him! | ||
They stop looking. | ||
And I think that's also a testament to the shortened attention span. | ||
I mean, I assume whoever vetted him is fairly young, working in a staff position for this elected official, and they think, oh yeah, I read most of that headline and I know what I'm talking about. | ||
I don't think it matters. | ||
I don't think it matters at all whether it's a mistake or not. | ||
That's just, at this point in the culture war, in this point in the war with Russia and Eastern Europe, all that matters is what they do. | ||
If we sit around saying like, well, you know, that was a mistake, every single time they scream and cheer for Nazis, it's like, okay, you're gonna be giving the benefit of the doubt to them the entire way. | ||
It's like, we're sitting in a car with these people and they're driving full speed, pedal to the metal, Foot to the floor, right towards a cliff, and we're like, well, but hold on a minute. | ||
They're probably gonna turn, right? | ||
They're not gonna drive off the cliff. | ||
They wouldn't do that. | ||
And then every single time it's... So at this point, I'm just like, I don't care what they thought they were doing. | ||
This is what they do. | ||
It's who they are. | ||
That's it. | ||
So all I can say is, yes, Canadian Parliament gave a standing ovation to a Nazi. | ||
Yeah, but as I said, I don't care why they did it, they did it. | ||
Ukraine has become so good at playing the West like a fiddle. | ||
One of their spokespersons now is this transgender American. | ||
Not anymore, though. | ||
Oh, that changed? | ||
I think they got rid of that person because the trans spokesperson threatened to kill anyone or something like that. | ||
Was that what happened? | ||
I can look it up, but I'm not sure. | ||
There's like a video where... Okay, well, either was or until very recently, this transgender American spokesperson for Ukrainian military who doesn't even speak Ukrainian. | ||
Obviously, that's, you know, playing to the sentiments of the left in the United States. | ||
Ukraine's a colony of the United States. | ||
And then when Zelensky went to the UN giving a speech and talking about climate change. | ||
Oh, right. | ||
But listen. | ||
Ukraine is a colony of the United States. | ||
That's why an American English-speaking leftist is the one talking about what's going on. | ||
It doesn't matter who is in Ukraine. | ||
NATO and the West don't care. | ||
And when you learn that the US has been funding the businesses and everything in Ukraine... | ||
Might as well consider Ukraine a colony of the United States. | ||
Just call it... I don't care for this wordplay that we have in modern politics, right? | ||
Where it's just like, well, you know, oh, not really. | ||
We don't call it that. | ||
Are we at war with Russia? | ||
Yes. | ||
In all form and function, but... | ||
Is it declared? | ||
When was the last time the U.S. | ||
declared a war against anybody? | ||
We just go and do it. | ||
So you've got U.S. | ||
citizens volunteering with U.S. | ||
weapons, with U.S. | ||
training, with U.S.-backed artillery and intelligence, and it's like, but it's Ukraine that's at war. | ||
Yeah, Russia doesn't think so. | ||
Because practically, it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. | ||
And this is where we're currently at. | ||
Well, let me pull up this story here from the New York Times. | ||
First, Abrams tanks arrive in Ukraine, Zelensky says. | ||
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officials said that an initial batch of 31 M1 Abrams tanks promised to Ukraine by the Biden administration have been delivered months ahead of estimates. | ||
And it's not just that. | ||
It's also this. | ||
Sixty minutes reported just the other day. | ||
It was discovered that the U.S. | ||
is financing more than weapons in Ukraine. | ||
The government is buying seeds, fertilizer for farmers, paying the salaries of 57,000 first responders, and subsidizing small businesses. | ||
I call that a colony. | ||
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Yeah. | |
That's it. | ||
Ukraine is a colony of the United States. | ||
Oh, just wait, I'll count down until I get the Russell Brand treatment. | ||
Because I think the war machine is the bigger reason why they're going after Russell Brand. | ||
People think it's Big Pharma, I disagree. | ||
And it's, look, I mean, 60 Minutes reports this, so maybe they'll go after, who does it? | ||
Scott Pelley? | ||
Is that who's doing 60 Minutes? | ||
I think so. | ||
Yeah, maybe they'll go after him. | ||
He's gonna get accused. | ||
That'll be hilarious. | ||
But the United States, your tax dollars are not going to fight a war in Russia. | ||
Your tax dollars are propping up small businesses in Ukraine. | ||
Now ask yourself, why is CBS News reporting this? | ||
Ukraine is a colony of the United States, which means we pay for their public, their civilian public infrastructure, first responders. | ||
It means we subsidize their small businesses, and it means we cover the cost of defense. | ||
That's an American colony as far as I'm concerned. | ||
Or call it NATO, whatever you want, but the U.S. | ||
is what's paying for all this. | ||
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I'm surprised that this is actually being reported, because I'm sure this has been going on for the entire time we've been sending them money. | |
We've sent them, I think, $113 billion. | ||
There's no way people genuinely thought that was all going to a war effort. | ||
Yeah, I mean, it's funny how they support small businesses when they're in Ukraine. | ||
But not in the U.S., you know? | ||
That's the point. | ||
I mean, the U.S. | ||
is in decay. | ||
We've got crime running rampant, but jeez. | ||
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Yeah, it's frustrating, isn't it? | |
I mean, and now we're supposed to go to the polls, right? | ||
I mean, we were saying people just become crazy during election years, but how could you not when you know that you suffered after everything that happened during COVID, the economic turmoil that small businesses, small communities felt because of this to know that this is how Joe Biden decided to spend your tax dollars. | ||
It can't feel like anything but a slap in the face. | ||
Worse than that. | ||
So how many people lost their businesses? | ||
How many people had to shut down their stores and go get a job at Walmart, and then you find out that all of your hard work and the money they took from you is propping up a small business in Ukraine? | ||
That's more than a slap in the face. | ||
That's sedition. | ||
I mean, that is... You know, you can argue it's not really treason because treason has specific parameters, but it is something. | ||
For the government to take money and resources from Americans and who are suffering and their businesses are shutting down and send all of that over to Ukraine for what? | ||
It's a complete lack of loyalty to the American people of any part of the country, right? | ||
It's an occupation of the American people and an extraction of their resources to fund other countries. | ||
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It's like mercantilism in the reverse. | ||
We're just giving it to the colony. | ||
Or we have an occupying political force in the United States that's extracting as much as possible before it implodes. | ||
I mean, this is one of the reasons that I'd love to see a Democratic presidential debate, because I'd love to see Joe Biden, number one, have to talk publicly at all, but also have to answer questions about things like this. | ||
Because so far, as long as the Democratic Party can keep it in the background and, you know, certain fractions of the media will talk about it, certain people will talk about it, but ultimately the average voter should know, should see the dollar amount of what is being sent abroad and where it is going. | ||
Because it's not the story of just we're helping poor Ukraine that's being bullied by Russia. | ||
There is a much bigger cost. | ||
And ultimately, the Biden administration is going to pretend that that's not happening for as long as possible, as will the Democratic Party as a whole. | ||
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I think the Republicans need to talk about this in the debate stage as well, because I'm not convinced that if another Republican not named Donald Trump gets in there, they're going to stop funding. | |
I think it would just continue. | ||
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. | ||
I think if it's Vivek, you'll see the funding stop. | ||
But Nikki Haley is the inverse. | ||
She's screaming with blood spraying from her mouth that she wants to blow up children in foreign countries. | ||
I despise that woman, by the way. | ||
These people are all warmongers. | ||
They can't give a rational, reasonable justification for what they do, what they want, what they're funding. | ||
They just lie. | ||
I think, was it Nikki Haley who lied and said that Putin said Poland's next or something like that? | ||
Yeah, I think she was a part of that. | ||
During the lesser-known Republican debate? | ||
Something like that. | ||
And you've got anti-war left and right being like, what is wrong with these people? | ||
Their brains are not right. | ||
There is something wrong. | ||
You want to make an argument for intervention in war? | ||
You can make the argument. | ||
You can talk about Russia aligning with China. | ||
The U.S. | ||
is trying to defend Ukraine and stop Russia from gaining more resources in Eastern Europe and expanding their economic stranglehold in the region. | ||
As they team up with Russia, it creates a very big threat, so the U.S. | ||
is trying to push back. | ||
I know all that stuff. | ||
I've heard all the arguments. | ||
But that's not the arguments they make. | ||
So long as they want to keep lying about what they're doing, then so be it. | ||
They deserve to lose. | ||
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Yeah. | |
But will they actually? | ||
Lose? | ||
I mean, yeah. | ||
They've lost! | ||
We had that one report, uh, Adrian Norman wrote for TimCast.com, uh, well, and to be fair, it was, it was, um, it was Seymour Hersh, I think? | ||
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I think so. | |
It was a report from him, uh, that he was speaking with an intelligence official. | ||
So Seymour Hersh reported, an intelligence official said, oh, it's over. | ||
Russia won. | ||
What did Russia want? | ||
They wanted the land bridge into Crimea. | ||
They got it. | ||
Now what? | ||
Now they defend it. | ||
That's it. | ||
So what are we doing there? | ||
Trying to stop them? | ||
If the US's goal really here is to just strip Russia's access to Crimea and the Mediterranean, then it's basically just the US declaring war on Russia. | ||
Yeah, there's no end in sight, which also aids the Biden administration to continue to send money over. | ||
I mean, there is nothing in this for the American people, and so I don't understand why we continue it. | ||
It costs them every single day, and Russia already has its main objective. | ||
It doesn't seem like a productive war, but we're going to be there for as long as a Democrat is in office, and probably a lot of Republicans, too. | ||
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A productive war, yeah. | |
Like the last one that we were in? | ||
Yeah, so many productive wars in history. | ||
But again, like, at a certain point, I mean, the US and the EU could say, we're going to broker a deal. | ||
Isn't this what Donald Trump said? | ||
He said, day one, I'm going to stop this war. | ||
That would be the first thing I did. | ||
The war would stop exactly where it is. | ||
Exactly. | ||
And Russia would say, okay. | ||
Why is no one else doing that? | ||
Right? | ||
Like, why do we have to keep doing this? | ||
I'm asking such deep questions tonight on TimCast IRL. | ||
I'm stunning all of our guests. | ||
I mean, do you guys know anyone who's like, yes, this is a great idea, let us continue to send money to Ukraine? | ||
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Not at all. | |
No? | ||
Well, I think among Democrats, it's still quite a popular position. | ||
And certainly in the EU and in UK, that remains a really popular position. | ||
But why? | ||
What is their objective, other than we just don't like Russia? | ||
Well, there's this whole apparatus in the media that does put out the propaganda talking points from Ukraine about this being more than just a war between two nations. | ||
It's a war between good and evil. | ||
And it's packaged in a way that's simple for the masses, and it works. | ||
There's a good side and a bad side. | ||
And it's popular among Democrats in the U.S. | ||
and liberal voters in Canada. | ||
And liberal people in Europe. | ||
But is it enough to outweigh the economic hardship that people in the U.S. | ||
are facing? | ||
I mean, we were just talking about gas prices in L.A. | ||
are crazy. | ||
Ridiculous. | ||
If you heard, this is your cost of living, but also we're still going to continue to fund this war abroad, it would be impossible, at least in my opinion, for anyone who's reasonable to say, that's a good use of our tax dollars. | ||
I appreciate this. | ||
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I think it's just a lot of people aren't really paying attention to it. | |
They just think it's something that's going on and that we're kind of supporting it and it's the current thing. | ||
But people, when you present the facts to them, when you say, hey, actually all this money's going here, they would say, yeah, you know, easily, we should stop funding. | ||
But nobody's really presenting it to them, so they're not seeing the alternative. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Well, it's a nuanced issue. | ||
And it's difficult, I think, for the masses to comprehend and to come up with an informed position. | ||
It's similar to the problems that arise from immigration. | ||
You know, we know what it does on the labor market, what it does, how it makes housing crisis worse, but people By and large, in urban areas don't really push back on the policies of sanctuary cities or U.S. | ||
immigration policy. | ||
In fact, in these areas, they're the loudest in saying, you know, well, have them come in. | ||
They want their cake and to eat it too. | ||
And they don't realize that the balancing the books actually in the end doesn't really work. | ||
You're going to suffer one way or the other. | ||
And I, yeah, you know, I mean, this is really the responsibility of the press to present The truth on these issues to the public, but the establishment legacy media fails in that because they're captured. | ||
Could you think the legacy media would ever go back to having a standard for truth or do you think it's a lost cause? | ||
The journalism programs at the universities that lead to people going into New York Times and Washington Post and other places, it's all... I mean, these programs have long been captured. | ||
I don't really know how you can, at this point, do much. | ||
So what's the future of legacy media, in your opinion? | ||
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Gosh. | |
I don't know. | ||
What I would like to see happen is independent and conservative media having more support from philanthropists, for one. | ||
It's really hard to get independent media well-funded. | ||
Writers need to be paid reporters. | ||
It's a lot of work, it's a lot of money to get that type of stuff going, and we just have to build up these different institutions, I guess. | ||
I mean, it's a cliché, what I'm saying, but really it's so important, and I think what causes a lot of Conservative or independent media to go under is ultimately just the funding's not there. | ||
People want to get their news for free. | ||
Everyone hates going to a news link and then you have to log in or you have to pay or something, you know? | ||
But that or the experience is filled with a whole bunch of ads and that's not pleasant either, but it's... Unless you're Rumble and then there's no Burger King ads. | ||
And the left has more than enough patrons, so they will get funding from powerful, prominent individuals who want to prop up the system. | ||
They'll pay millions of dollars to websites that can't make a penny. | ||
Of Soros has funded media as well. | ||
Of course, of course. | ||
And then on the right, you just got the people who want to contribute, sign up and join and pay what they can. | ||
That's about it. | ||
But I think there's been enough stress on the system that more and more people are waking up. | ||
And starting to join these subscription programs and make contributions. | ||
And I think the independent media space is becoming better at providing real incentives and real value to their members and their customers. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I was at Black Dog Coffee nearby on Friday and someone came up to me and you know I've only been on the show for a little while so it doesn't happen all the time but he was like, Hey, I love the work that you guys do. | ||
And I was like, oh my gosh, thanks so much. | ||
And he's like, yeah, where else am I supposed to get my news? | ||
Which I found really interesting. | ||
It's telling. | ||
People rely on alternative media in a way that even a decade ago they couldn't have. | ||
And sort of like the sphere of influencer marketing, it's something no one could have predicted because it's a break from the traditional model built on technology that didn't exist 20 years ago. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Well, let's jump to the story from TimGuest.com. | ||
Washington Post downplays its own poll that shows Trump beating Biden by 10 points. | ||
The poll found 56% of Americans disapproving of Biden. | ||
Take a look at this. | ||
I'll just jump right to 538. | ||
The last two polls we have from ABC News and the Washington Post show Trump is up 10 points and 9 points. | ||
I love this, because if you even go back to last week, you'd do it. | ||
Biden does have a poll right here against Trump. | ||
He's up 2. | ||
But you've got Trump up 3 in this one, up 5, up 3. | ||
It looks like, and what do we have? | ||
One of them's big. | ||
One of them's got like 6,000. | ||
Morning Counsel? | ||
No, these are older ones. | ||
Yeah, I guess they must change a lot. | ||
Talking about this earlier, you've got this one from September 15th, 2,500 people. | ||
Trump's up 1 point. | ||
Let's go back here. | ||
3,000 registered voters. | ||
Harris X. Trump is up 5. | ||
Yeah, so they did change this from what I was reading earlier. | ||
But you can see basically when it's not Trump, when it's Junkin, DeSantis, when it's Haley. | ||
Actually, Haley beats Joe Biden, while surprising. | ||
But you can see that Trump's winning. | ||
That's it. | ||
We did not have this in the 2020 cycle. | ||
So it would stand to reason if the election were held today, Joe Biden loses. | ||
But how's he doing in the crucial states, though? | ||
I don't know. | ||
That's a good question. | ||
I can say that this poll also found among independents, Trump is up, I think, like 11. | ||
So that matters. | ||
Independent voters matters for the swing states, but the swing states themselves. | ||
It's a more important question individually. | ||
I think Trump just needs to win. | ||
What does he need, like Arizona, Georgia and Wisconsin or something? | ||
Yeah, good luck. | ||
Because that's not even a question of sentiments, it's a question of procedure. | ||
Trump's going to need to overcome massive procedural biases against him with these states. | ||
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I'm not surprised that these poll numbers, everybody that I talk to, they would take Trump over Biden any day, but I am surprised that the Washington Post actually released it. | |
And that kind of gives me a little bit concerned because maybe they might start putting these out to kind of put the narrative in that, oh, the Democrats need to replace Joe Biden, because everybody's been talking about he'll eventually be replaced, but we don't know how it's going to come. | ||
I don't see him just stepping down. | ||
So they might try to take him out with some sort of scandal, or maybe they just start highlighting actual polls and say, actually, Biden's not doing too good. | ||
We got to get somebody out of there. | ||
I think you're totally right. | ||
I think a lot of it is the Washington Post acknowledging that, at least within their internal structure, they are questioning Joe Biden. | ||
And this coincides with the date that they set for the DeSantis-Newsom debate, right? | ||
So that's November 30th now. | ||
We know that there are people who would like to see a DeSantis-Newsom 2024 race. | ||
That's what they ultimately want. | ||
I think that there is no clear way. | ||
I mean, we've talked about it a fair amount on the show. | ||
There's no clear way for them to just swap out Biden for Newsom. | ||
It would be sort of a dramatic production, but there is enough bifurcation within the party that they don't know that they actually want to see Biden there. | ||
There's another poll that came out today. | ||
I think the company called Harris X that found, you know, among voters Biden is ahead, but Kennedy is consistently gaining ground. | ||
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. | ||
is consistently gaining ground. | ||
People are interested in him. | ||
And then there is a huge portion of voters, even among registered Democrats, you know, 16% at least, that say that they would want someone else. | ||
They aren't happy with, you know, Merriam-Williamson, RFK Jr. | ||
or Biden, but they also Don't know who would be there. | ||
I mean, you get you see that there is sort of a rumbling to see if maybe someone else would would step up. | ||
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I don't know. | |
It's crazy. | ||
I mean, RFK Jr. | ||
has initially came out, I think, around 5 percent, and he's consistently climbed. | ||
I'm seeing him poll consistently. | ||
He's 12, 16 percent. | ||
Yeah. | ||
And I think they've just lost control of the machine. | ||
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Right. | |
They can't do anything about it. | ||
If Biden was the best, they could muster the screwed. | ||
Yeah. | ||
But they don't have a clear way to handle getting rid of him. | ||
And I think I've always thought it was that Biden himself wants to stay for as long as possible. | ||
Why would he want to step down? | ||
He's, in my opinion, obviously in ill health. | ||
And so that's why you would get his press secretary saying, oh, well, he's still considering what to do, even when Biden had made statements saying, no, I intend to run again. | ||
This went on for a long time. | ||
It was sort of strange. | ||
Sort of rolled out this video campaign discreetly, you know, to be a video that he was going to run for a second election or a second term. | ||
I think it wouldn't be the case if they really felt he was in a strong position in terms of his policies and his health. | ||
I think that they would celebrate him as the incumbent if they if they really believed in him and the Democratic Party doesn't. | ||
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I feel like that's becoming more and more obvious every day. | |
I feel like there's eventually going to be a point, like Tim talked about, how if Newsom comes and saves Biden passing out on stage or something like that, there's going to be a point where that's going to happen. | ||
It's just going to take a couple more polls that are indicating the right, you know, for us, I guess you could say us, and that we would like seeing Trump ahead of him. | ||
Just a couple more. | ||
I think we're like right there. | ||
I think we're seeing a repeat of, who am I thinking of? | ||
The Supreme Court Justice, who everyone wanted to step down and then she didn't. | ||
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Oh, uh, Bader Ginsburg? | |
Yes, thank you. | ||
Uh, when Ruth Bader Ginsburg was, was, they were trying to time it so that a Democrat could appoint her and there were a lot of people said she stayed too long and then ultimately, uh, died when Donald Trump was in office and that was such a disaster. | ||
I think in some ways Biden's gonna do the same thing, which is he really should step down and he said, you know, All sorts of things when he was running. | ||
He made it overtures as if he would be a one-term president but he was really sort of here to defeat Donald Trump and obviously now ego before everything else he doesn't want to give up his seat or at least the powers that have kept him in a seat don't want him to go. | ||
I think Trump wins 2024. | ||
Yeah? | ||
Easily. | ||
I mean, I don't know about easily. | ||
I think there's gonna be a lot of crazy that happens, but I just think, narratively, Trump's gonna win. | ||
Who do you think is, uh... It's Elon Musk's adage, right? | ||
The most entertaining outcome tends to be, is it Elon's Razor? | ||
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Yeah. | |
Or did someone else come up with that? | ||
That's someone else's quote, isn't it? | ||
The most entertaining outcome tends to be the... I thought it was Elon Musk, but maybe he's just passed it off well. | ||
I just can't imagine a world in which we don't get another term of Donald Trump. | ||
I just don't know. | ||
But, like, all the pieces lined up on the chessboard. | ||
Biden? | ||
I mean, to be fair, a Biden presidency is also comical. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
Like, at this point in his life, seeing, like, the president wheeled out to the podium in a wheelchair with a burlap, with, like, a little blanket on his lap, and he's like, and you're like, you know? | ||
Spicy! | ||
It's comical, but costly. | ||
I don't know that we could actually do it. | ||
Who do you think the vice president be? | ||
Who do you think Trump's going to pick as a vice president? | ||
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I don't know. | |
Because I feel like his vice president is actually going to be sort of important. | ||
I mean, given everything that's going on. | ||
Yeah. | ||
You guys really think that a Republican can win in 2024, given how the electoral process has changed since COVID? | ||
Yes. | ||
I mean, those changes... Trump only lost by 42,000 votes in 2020. | ||
Yes, but in my opinion, the way elections are run in many states, it systematically disadvantages Republicans. | ||
Of course it does. | ||
But Trump only lost by 42,000 votes. | ||
The advantage Democrats had with universal mail-in voting was everyone was locked inside their homes and they couldn't leave. | ||
They don't have that advantage anymore. | ||
So they'll need something. | ||
But we've had other elections since November 2020, and it hasn't really turned out that well for Republicans. | ||
Because Republicans are only just now starting to wake up to the issue. | ||
And, again, we're talking about an electoral system where Trump lost by 42,000 votes in three states, which could easily be made up, versus individual members of Congress in key districts. | ||
Where we were like, wow, we're surprised they did not do better. | ||
Well, yeah, I mean, in Lauren Bobert's district, she came really close to losing. | ||
My favorite thing about that is, as soon as she pulled ahead slightly, her opponent, I think Frisch was his name, was like, no, no, no recount, no recount! | ||
Like, what do you mean, no? | ||
No, let's go through every single battle with a fine-toothed comb. | ||
Well, I think the issue is universal mail-in voting did play a role. | ||
It does benefit Democrats, but demographic shift because of COVID benefits Democrats. | ||
But the issue really comes down to, do Democrats have the same edge the first time around? | ||
Is Joe Biden building confidence? | ||
And we're talking about one man at a national level and not individual members of Congress. | ||
Because what we did see is that you're likely to get, and this happened in 2018 as well, | ||
if you were a Democrat but moderate, you got elected. | ||
There were 31 moderate Democrats that were like, we don't wanna fight with Trump, | ||
we wanna focus on healthcare, your wages, things like that for you guys, you know, unions, | ||
we wanna work for you guys. | ||
And so they voted for these dudes. | ||
That moderate message works, people care more about kitchen table issues | ||
than they do about anything else. | ||
Now the issue is with Trump, At the local level, you know that you can vote for a Democrat. | ||
You know the guy. | ||
He's got a much, you know, it's a smaller constituency. | ||
And maybe you talk to him and you trust him. | ||
But you've known that four years of Biden has been really, really bad. | ||
So you're like, you might, you'll probably get a lot of independents that are going to be like, yeah, maybe vote for a Libertarian Democrat or some middle position, but then vote for Donald Trump for president because that's the practical solution. | ||
So yes, can Donald Trump win? | ||
Yeah, he only lost by 42,000 votes. | ||
How could he not win? | ||
That's probably like a million bucks in spending on ads they could have done to get Trump those ballots. | ||
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I think in 2020 Trump was kind of looked at as the villain amongst Democrats. | |
And even now, going into 2024, he's kind of fondly missed. | ||
People miss the days of Trump and they're not so angry at him because they didn't have to deal with him every day for four years. | ||
I don't think it's going to be the same outcome as 2020. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I think there's also a lot of people that have watched the outcome of what their choice was in the ballot box and have seen what the result of that has been. | ||
You see people in interviews all the time saying, I voted for Biden last time, I'm not going to vote for him this time. | ||
And they feel they're more Like Tim always says, you say like people would crawl through broken glass to vote for Trump. | ||
I feel like there are more people. | ||
Trump's base. | ||
Yeah, exactly. | ||
But there are more and more people that are like that. | ||
But I think there's a lot of people that are just like, I ain't crawling over glass for anybody and I'm out. | ||
People voted against Trump and all that happened was things got worse and now we're at war and they're probably just like... | ||
Do you think voter turnout will be particularly low in 2024? | ||
Sorry, I'm stuttering today. | ||
I don't know. | ||
What was it last time around? | ||
I thought it was going to be really high in 2020. | ||
I'm not sure. | ||
I didn't think it was high. | ||
It was high among young people, but that's largely because of mail-in voting, right? | ||
I think it was super high. | ||
Yeah, I thought it was going to be super high. | ||
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And then, what do we have here? | |
Voter turnout in 2020. | ||
I mean, it's hard to say because population growth. | ||
Oh, wait, no, look at this. | ||
Oh, this is percentage of voter turnout. | ||
This is amazing. | ||
In, let's say, 1800, voter turnout was 7%. | ||
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No, wait, what? | |
U.S. | ||
presidential election popular vote totals as a percentage of the total U.S. | ||
population. | ||
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Wow! | |
That is insane. | ||
Yeah, that's... | ||
Yo, in 1912, voter turnout was under 20%. | ||
It was 18%. | ||
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17%? | |
Does it look like? | ||
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Yeah, 17%. | |
No, wait. | ||
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16%! | |
Wow! | ||
Yeah, I'm impressed. | ||
And that's turnout over total population, though? | ||
16% of the U.S. | ||
16%! | ||
Wow! | ||
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Yeah, I'm impressed. | |
And that's turn out over total population though? | ||
16% of the US population voted for the, voted | ||
in the presidential election in 1912. | ||
That's not bad. | ||
Man, you look at even during the Civil War, nobody was voting. | ||
Nobody cared. | ||
That's crazy. | ||
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I mean, a lot less people could have voted too. | |
Percentage-wise? | ||
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I see what you're saying. | |
Voting was restricted, so I wonder what the turnout is amongst registered voters. | ||
It doubles. | ||
Wouldn't love going out to do things, I'll tell ya. | ||
That looks like it's about it. | ||
Just shy of 20%, suffrage happens, and it's just shy of 40%, so it looks like it's slightly more than doubled. | ||
And now, since then, it's gone slightly, it's been trending upwards. | ||
This only goes to 2016, by the way, but I'm pretty sure 2020 was the biggest. | ||
I haven't heard that before as well. | ||
Yeah, people are like, 81 million votes for Biden, that didn't happen. | ||
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I mean, they were mailing out ballots to people's homes. | |
Right. | ||
So it wasn't turnout, it was voter participation. | ||
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Yeah. | |
We'll see what happens. | ||
I think it'll go down in 2024, actually, based on that. | ||
I'm curious, in California, do you see lots of political signage already? | ||
Like, I know in parts of West Virginia, the Trump signs went up in 2016 and have stayed the whole time. | ||
Do you see pro-Biden signs? | ||
Like, what are you seeing on the ground where you live? | ||
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I can probably say that I've never seen a pro-Biden sign. | |
Even after Biden won, some of my neighbors still had their Trump flags up. | ||
The Trump flags and signs were going up for a while, you know, kind of in protest. | ||
But I see F-Biden shirts or Let's Go Brandon was a lot. | ||
There's nobody who's really motivated for Biden, just from what I've seen. | ||
Yeah, what was the Let's Go Brandon stuff? | ||
That blew up. | ||
There was like a whole second wave of not even technically pro-Trump, but just anti-Biden stuff. | ||
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I tweeted about this the other day. | |
It's still kind of an anti-Trump sentiment. | ||
I was pulling into a parking lot and I see a guy. | ||
He's got a sticker on the back of his car that says Trump 2024. | ||
My window was down, so I was almost going to say, yo, like, I see you, bro. | ||
But I get closer. | ||
It's Trump 20 to 24 years in prison. | ||
Wow. | ||
He faked you out. | ||
I wish you had said something else. | ||
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Right! | |
Like, I know! | ||
I don't like that guy. | ||
I find that interesting because I've always lived in more liberal-leaning areas where if you like any kind of conservative or libertarian you tend to keep it to yourself. | ||
But every once in a while you'll be somewhere and you'll see there's one house on the block that is like, I don't care, I'm putting up my political signs and they're typically 45 pro-Trump signs. | ||
There's this one house that I pass in the area that'll have this flag of like Trump standing over eagles and like, you know, he's like, Just like a caricature, but there's no equivalent for Joe Biden. | ||
There is maybe vote Joe Biden because you like the Democrats, but there's not this same sort of belief in his capabilities, in my opinion. | ||
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I think that's just because people voted for Joe Biden because they wanted to get Trump out. | |
He was the anti-Trump guy. | ||
They weren't necessarily so gung-ho about Biden. | ||
They just didn't like Trump that much that they would vote for Biden to get Trump out. | ||
So they're not incentivized to wave the Biden flags or buy some Biden merch in the same way | ||
that pro-Trump voters were. | ||
They're definitely not super fans. | ||
They're not like the Trump base, that's for sure. | ||
Right, even like, I remember there was a lot of Obama merch back in the day. | ||
He had mad hype. | ||
Hillary Clinton, she had a bunch of stuff. | ||
I'm with her. | ||
I see her H's all everywhere. | ||
But, I mean, Joe Biden's just never captured that attention any of the times he's run for president. | ||
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No, no way. | |
If you live in a neighborhood where people feel safe and comfortable to put up political signage | ||
of different diverse views, consider yourself quite fortunate. | ||
Coming from Portland, Oregon, if you expressed any type of dissenting views, your property would be highly likely subjected to violence or potentially even serious violence like arson or such. | ||
Let me pull up the story real quick, just to put a pin in that. | ||
We have this from the Post Millennial. | ||
Leader in Richmond Democrat party group posted bomb threat against Andy Ngo Virginia Talk. | ||
The post included an image of dynamite with Jarvis writing in the description box, on my way to the Andy Ngo event. | ||
So you've experienced this stuff, I think everyone knows, directly covering the extremism. | ||
Do you want to elaborate on what you're talking about? | ||
Well, you know, because the left has cultural dominance and they face no censure, no social consequences for expressing radical and hateful extremist beliefs, they're able to push it further and further to the point where you can have somebody who's, I mean, we're not talking about somebody who's in Black Bloc, Antifa type of groups, this is somebody who's In a leadership role and then in the Richmond City Democratic Committee, which is the official party Democrat party group in Richmond, Virginia, feeling confident and fine to put this type of post publicly. | ||
And in going back to what I was just saying a moment ago, those leftists who feel empowered to go and destroy people's properties because of their expressing a different political view. | ||
So, you know, my heart is warm just to hear Claire just talk briefly about, you know, the different type of political science that she's seen in places she lives. | ||
Don't take that for granted. | ||
If you're an American who lives in one of those places, consider yourself lucky because there are places like Portland, Seattle, obviously different boroughs of New York where you are potentially put yourself and your family at risk for expressing a mainstream political view. | ||
Well, and they had that guy whose biker neighbor went and lit his Trump sign on fire. | ||
I mean, there are places that people do feel entitled to. | ||
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Well, they weren't neighbors, though. | |
I just meant that he biked in the area. | ||
I think it's interesting. | ||
One of the things that you're saying reminds me of in your book, you talked about how people, especially progressive groups, will travel to small towns and set up coffee shops or bookstores and sort of become very visible in that sense. | ||
And that becomes sort of how they begin to have influence and control areas. | ||
So there are times that people are expressing their views because they're relying on the tolerance and the community's ability to welcome them, even if they don't agree with them. | ||
And then they become sort of a destructive force in and of themselves. | ||
Oh yeah, yeah, we see this phenomenon all the time, people who adhere to a certain principle of tolerance and then the other side gains power and that is not reciprocated back onto them and they suffer as a result. | ||
I mean, conservatives experience that a lot, right? | ||
Welcome and protect all views of expression, but then you have those who are calling for an overturning of the entire system and a totalitarian system where people are subjected to violence, potentially or death for their views. | ||
And I mean, I'm not saying that's manifested in real life necessarily anywhere in the US, but there's certain pockets where those type of sentiments are salient to a population and they're able to um cause so much violence and and destruction on those around them and and those in the victims just have no ability to counter um in so so i was speaking in richmond because richmond is a city that um has experienced uh over the years a really radical cultural shift to the left i think a lot of that has to do with the university there the virginia commonwealth university they had | ||
Months of riots in 2020 like Portland and a lot of the same parallels between Portland and Virginia I documented and explored in the speech you have. | ||
So elected local officials, the mayor, those on city council condoning the riots, even going out to some of those protests turned riots to participate and give them support. | ||
You have police whose ability to actually enforce the law is curtailed by the local politicians and then you have outside agitators coming in and without a lot of money and it just creates, I mean, a lot of destabilization. | ||
I think one of the questions I was asked when I spoke on Friday was, Like, could this happen again? | ||
And I say, well, yes, obviously, because the networks that were strengthened and established in 2020 are not only still there, they're stronger now. | ||
And there might be a bit of protest and riot fatigue today. | ||
But just give it a bit of time, and there'll be some other George Floyd-type moment that's caught on video, clipped, exploited, and blasted on social media, and it'll get people to the streets. | ||
Well, 2024 is around the corner. | ||
It is about that time. | ||
2020, BLM, George Floyd, election year. | ||
2020 BLM George Floyd election year. | ||
2024, this next summer. | ||
But Richmond doesn't have any more monuments to pull down. | ||
What are they gonna do? | ||
It could be literally anywhere and the issue is the media lies. | ||
So let's say, let's say something like this. | ||
2024 and there's like some dude working in his garage in the suburbs of, I don't know, let's say Youngstown, Ohio. | ||
He's in his garage. | ||
And then some dude sneaks into his garage and, say, grabs a power tool case. | ||
A couple hundred bucks. | ||
And then runs for it. | ||
And this guy's been known to the neighborhood. | ||
So the dude calls the police. | ||
The guy's neighbor confronts the guy and grabs him and stops him and they fight over the tool. | ||
And then the dude who was stealing it, you know, falls down, hits his head and dies. | ||
The media will report that two white men approached a man who was walking down the street, a black man, and they mercilessly beat him to death. | ||
And then you'll get your riots. | ||
And then a month later, the video will be released from their Ring security camera showing the guy robbing the house, and it'll be just like Ahmaud Arbery. | ||
And they will find any story they can to create a racially charged atmosphere that will result in riots, and then they'll use that to claim racism or whatever, and then the people who are correctly calling out this story does not, you know, follow Did you guys see the story? | ||
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It was kind of inverse to that. | |
Of course it didn't get coverage because the victim was white, but I guess these two black dudes pulled up to a basketball court and they got into a fight with a white guy. | ||
Black dude hits the white guy and white guy falls on his head, dies. | ||
They went to trial, beat an involuntary manslaughter charge, and were only convicted of assault. | ||
There you go. | ||
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It's ridiculous. | |
Yeah, I saw that. | ||
What's gonna happen with 2024 is they don't need there to be an actual instance of racism or violence. | ||
The media will just make it up. | ||
Garage pole rope? | ||
It's a noose. | ||
Well, Trump being the Republican nominee would. | ||
Just that would get people out on the streets. | ||
2015 and early 2016, that was such a powerful propaganda coup for Antifa because, you know, | ||
before their messaging, extremist messaging comes out through their pamphlets and texts | ||
and their blogs, which reaches a smaller audience, with Trump being the nominee at that time, | ||
then now they have the entire liberal media establishment saying the exact same talking | ||
points, America might elect a fascist, and then after the election, America did elect | ||
a fascist, death camps are around the corner, mass deportations around the corner, I mean | ||
this sounds crazy as I say it now, but look back on the opinion pieces and headlines that | ||
were published in the papers or records, those were the type of sentiments that they were | ||
putting out, it brainwashed a lot of useful idiots on the left to go out and be much more | ||
accepting of political violence on their side. | ||
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Bye. | |
I don't know why or how this happened, but I feel like amongst my generation and the younger generations coming up, political violence and vitriol is just so high. | ||
And it really rubs me the wrong way to see that people aren't even accepting of just opposing beliefs. | ||
It's either my way or the highway. | ||
You're evil. | ||
If you're evil, I can go after you and hurt you because I am the good guy. | ||
I want to highlight this. | ||
I saw this from Jack Posobiec, but I just verified the articles. | ||
Here's an article from Slate, November 19th, 2015. | ||
Donald Trump is actually a moderate Republican. | ||
That's why he's winning. | ||
November 19th, 2015. | ||
And then, on November 25th, 2015, Donald Trump is a fascist. | ||
Now hold on! | ||
The original article. | ||
Donald Trump is a moderate, written by Jamel Bowie, and the second article, written by Jamel Bowie. | ||
The same dude, a week later, he wrote Trump is a moderate, that's why he's winning, then he wrote Trump is a fascist. | ||
Why? | ||
They are evil. | ||
There's no legitimate reason why a sane person would say, I'm gonna write an article calling Trump a moderate, and then a week later be like, I'm gonna write an article, oh no, oh I just discovered he's actually a fascist. | ||
No, what happened was, everybody was going after Trump, So this person probably thought, if I write that he's a moderate, I bet I get a ton of traffic from people who are gonna be like, what, what do you mean, how, how, how? | ||
And then a week later, okay, been there, done that, I'm gonna write Trump's a fascist and get a million more views. | ||
Welcome to the media. | ||
Yeah, I think you're right. | ||
It's part of the clickbait. | ||
They need you to be so shocked by the things they're saying and these points that they're putting out there. | ||
I find the hysteria around Donald Trump to be completely personality based. | ||
I bet most people can't really distinguish anything about his political platforms. | ||
I should clarify. | ||
Most people who are identifying as progressive journalists, they don't know the nuances of differences between Republicans. | ||
They just know that Trump does things they don't like and they don't like him the most. | ||
And so therefore, whatever they have to say to make him the bad guy. | ||
It is weird. | ||
There are times when you'll see sort of more left-leaning outlets almost praise other Republicans to make Donald Trump look bad when there's sort of no informed opinion other than they aren't Trump. | ||
So therefore, whatever they're doing is OK. | ||
But this type of disinfluence that causes hysteria and panic is so dangerous. | ||
I mean, when you ingrain into, let's say, 50% of the population that this Republican frontrunner is a fascist, then that label then is applied, obviously, to people who would vote for him and those who support for him. | ||
And then what do good moral people do against fascists? | ||
Well, we want to bash them. | ||
And it normalizes that type of acceptance of political violence. | ||
I'm speaking, unfortunately, as somebody who's been a victim of the violence of Antifa because of these labels that have been applied to me. | ||
And then, I mean, with the event that I just spoke at in Richmond, the script that was going out to these different venues that canceled and took the third venue for me to actually be able to speak, People would just call in and say things like, you have a neo-nazi who's speaking, there are armed neo-nazis who are coming, this event goes forward, people could actually die. | ||
And people in corporate PRs would just freak out, they're like, okay, well, they'll cancel it. | ||
And that's the danger, I think, of, you know, we can laugh at this and look back, and because I think we're, all of us here at Sustainable are grounded. | ||
But there are actually so many people, even highly educated, perhaps it's the most educated, who are vulnerable to this type of hysteria and disinfo. | ||
But I, you know, I take it so seriously and I'm so angry at how sloppily people use these labels of like fascist and like dictator and all these type of terms as if it's like okay to just throw it around. | ||
Apparently now, you know, people just do that with like reckless abandon and it's like you, you know, people who Instill that into their beliefs, like actually take up weapons and like maim and like kill people on that belief. | ||
That happened in Portland with a self-described AMT phone number who shot dead a Trump supporter because he really thought this guy was this white supremacist fascist, just murdered him in downtown. | ||
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Yep. | |
You were saying before that you felt like the younger generations are sort of fueled by this political divisiveness so they won't listen to other people and it makes sense because they're completely surrounded by it. | ||
There's no escape and there's no accuracy in reporting. | ||
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Yeah, that's true. | |
That's true. | ||
I always wonder if there is going to be a reckoning at what point, you know, we had, I can't remember who it was, maybe Marjorie Taylor Greene on a couple, a year ago or so, and someone who was at the table said, oh, I'd actually never listened to anything but random clips of you and hearing you talk, it definitely changed my opinion or it gave me an insight. | ||
And I find this really interesting because I think there are so many people who aren't exposed to anyone but other people who are similarly afraid of these labels of fascists and, you know, anyone who's brushed by these words are obviously out to get them. | ||
And so there is a natural It almost makes sense. | ||
Resistance to it. | ||
You don't want to be affiliated with them. | ||
But you're completely right. | ||
If the labels are misused, then their fear and their willingness to maybe react violently is based on inaccurate information. | ||
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During the Trump years, I would always try to reach out to the other aisle just because it was like, uh, it was, it was a hot topic, you know, and I would always hear from people, wow, you're actually the first Trump supporter I've talked to, which is crazy because how have you ignored half of the country? | |
You, you've just been so tight knit in your bubble that you haven't even thought of, you know what, let me check out the other side. | ||
I used to be a Democrat back in the day, and then when I was coming of voting age, I said to myself, I'm going to make an informed decision. | ||
I will check out both the right and the left, and I just found that the right made more sense to me, and I wish more people would do that. | ||
What made you want to do that, though? | ||
Because I think it is unusual. | ||
I think young people tend to be like, oh, this is how my family votes, this is how my friends vote. | ||
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The thing that made me want to do that was Intro to Logic. | |
I took that my first year in college, and I learned how to critically think, and this was also around the time where BLM First Wave was popping off, and I didn't like how they kind of wanted to make black people the victim so much, so that was rubbing me the wrong way, and then I took Intro to Logic, and I said, let me think objectively rather than subjectively, let me go outside of my bubble, let me see what's on both sides, and then the right made more sense for me. | ||
Yeah, I think people don't want to be outside their bubble, I think. | ||
And conservatives are guilty of this, too, that we shouldn't, you know, pretend otherwise. | ||
But some people just want to be told the way they see the world is completely correct. | ||
They want to have all their biases confirmed, always. | ||
But I think what's really dividing the left and the right in the culture war is no longer politics. | ||
I think it's obvious to anybody who's been watching a show like this for a long time. | ||
It is simply, are you someone who is an independently minded person, or are you someone who is terrified of being shunned? | ||
Democrats basically just march in lockstep with whatever acceptable opinion is, whatever popular thing currently is. | ||
And it changes, and catches people off guard, and they get yelled at, and they apologize, and they freak out. | ||
The reason why they'll get so irrationally angry at the idea of you defending Donald Trump is because they know. | ||
You know, you're right. | ||
When the media lies about Donald Trump and then you say, well, you know, Trump never did that, they'll start yelling at you. | ||
Why are you defending him? | ||
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Why? | |
The reason they're getting angry is because they're like, uh-oh, I'm going to get ostracized. | ||
I will get targeted if you keep talking like this. | ||
I've got to show that I'm against him. | ||
I'm not one of you. | ||
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It's like they realize what they've been doing for so long and they realize they can turn against him, you know? | |
It's like when David Hogg said he was going to keep wearing masks even though they got rid of the mandates because he didn't want someone to think he was a Republican. | ||
They are so terrified of being the outgroup. | ||
So what happens is, it doesn't matter if you're pro-life, pro-choice. | ||
It matters are you in the cult or not. | ||
You can be in the cult and you can be someone like, you know, Adam Kinzinger, Liz Cheney, or Joe Walsh. | ||
They are obvious cult members. | ||
It's the funniest thing to see Democrats have a high approval rating for George W. Bush. | ||
So long as you are part of the machine cult, the cathedral, you know, there you go. | ||
Do you guys think people on the right are, um... | ||
A bit too loose in their accusations of their political opponents of being communists and socialists? | ||
Nope. | ||
You don't? | ||
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Nope. | |
Why? | ||
So there's, as we've been talking about this quite a bit over the past couple weeks, the banality of evil and malicious evil. | ||
Or, you know, as I go even further, say abject evil. | ||
So how did the Nazis, how were they able to pull off what they pulled off? | ||
Where did we hear this? | ||
I think someone was talking about it here on the show, maybe. | ||
That there was a group of regular guys that were conscripted in World War II and when they became police officers and when they were ordered to just start, you know, gunning down and rounding up the Jewish people for the concentration camps, without question they just did as they were told. | ||
Michael Malice often says that there is, I don't know, I can't say the exact quote, I'll paraphrase, but something to the effect of, there is no crime so egregious that police would not Carry it out if ordered to up to and including the murder of children. | ||
I certainly think that would be the case if they were instructed to do so as we saw in Lahaina when we have all these missing children and people are saying that they were in the cars trapped and the police were blocking the exit to Lahaina so that people were trapped in the road and they were burning to death. | ||
And then some of these people jumped out of their cars and jumped into the water while the cops held the road closed because they don't care. | ||
Did those officers wake up and decide that they were gonna go murder a bunch of people? | ||
Of course not. | ||
They were stupid people who did not care for the responsibilities of their job, who were told, don't let anyone leave town. | ||
Not explicitly, but they said, shut this road down. | ||
And they went, you got it. | ||
And so while the fires were burning people to death, they were cops like, don't care. | ||
So when it comes to the accusations of the right, on the left- From the right. | ||
Yeah, from the right, about the left, then, that's what I meant by on the right, they're making these accusations. | ||
I don't think it's incorrect to say that they're communists. | ||
Did every single communist in the Soviet Union who supported the system or participated in it know that they were communists? | ||
Did they read literature on Marx? | ||
Or were they just doing as they were told? | ||
They were just doing theirs. | ||
They were told it was the commonplace ignorance that led to these evil actions. | ||
So you have high profile individuals like people in the Fulton County DA's office charging Donald Trump. | ||
They're evil. | ||
You have the people in New York City that are filing these lawsuits falsely accusing Trump of things. | ||
Or trying to charge him on these B.S. | ||
charges. | ||
You've got the documents case against him. | ||
All of this is complete garbage nonsense. | ||
You have the Democrats who, in 2016, claimed falsely that Russia manipulated the election to help Donald Trump win, and Trump was illegitimate. | ||
Then 2020 comes around, and when the opponents of Biden start saying similar things about fraud, they say, you're all crazy psychopaths, etc., etc. | ||
They are a combination of all things evil. | ||
Powerful interests at the top who say things like, can't we just drone this guy? | ||
In reference to Julian Assange in London. | ||
Hillary Clinton is evil. | ||
But then you have the blind, ignorant followers. | ||
So if you have high profile activists who raise hundreds of millions of dollars who say that they are Marxists, explicitly, that's Black Lives Matter, and then you have people marching in the street throwing up the red salute in support of overt communism, They're communists! | ||
They don't have to sit there and put their hand on the Bible of Marx, Das Kapital, and things like that. | ||
They just need to be cogs in the machine that actively support the issue of communism. | ||
And then you have people breaking free from that, saying, I don't want to be involved. | ||
And that's fine, they can. | ||
But for the time being, if BLM is coming out saying they're trained Marxists, and then I see videos of millennials and Gen Z doing the Red Salute, Oh, bro, they're communists! | ||
Like, if you saw a 17-year-old kid marching around, goose-stepping, and doing a Roman salute, you'd be like, he's a Nazi. | ||
Oh, wow, hold on! | ||
Did he actually read Mein Kampf? | ||
Does he actually? | ||
No, come on, dude! | ||
We don't play those games. | ||
So the issue now is, high-profile activists to the tunes of millions of dollars buying property, having The slogans so ubiquitous that Amazon and Walmart use them. | ||
Like, okay, yeah, they're in the style of Chinese communism. | ||
They're authoritarian. | ||
Call them whatever you want. | ||
They adhere to some kind of Marxist ideology. | ||
As a means of manipulating. | ||
I think it's probably better to call them neo-fascist or something like this. | ||
A lot of people call them neo-marxist. | ||
But I'm like, I don't think they actually believe what Marx believed. | ||
They're using Marxist ideas to manipulate stupid people into being controlled. | ||
So it's something else. | ||
Neo-fascistic maybe, whatever. | ||
But call them whatever you want to call them. | ||
Marxist, communists, it applies to all of them. | ||
Yeah. | ||
And you can wake up one day and be like, oh, that was bad that I was doing that. | ||
There was a guy who I retweeted a while ago. | ||
He was a doctor and he tweeted that he was completely wrong about the lockdowns and he apologizes the day it was bad and he regrets where he was. | ||
And I'm like, see, there you go. | ||
You know, somebody who says, whoa, I can't believe what I was doing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
And you can only really do that in one direction. | ||
You can't do it from the left going to the right. | ||
You can't really do it from the right going to the left. | ||
I don't think the left would just never have you. | ||
No, they do. | ||
They have their... I think it's all fake. | ||
The people were like, you know, I was a Trump supporter, and then I realized they were lying. | ||
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No, you didn't. | |
That's a lie. | ||
That's not true. | ||
Because the far right, as defined by the media and the establishment, includes libertarians who hate Donald Trump. | ||
So it's like somebody who was, you know, I'm sure there are people who have been blue-pilled, who have been manipulated and tricked into believing lies from the machine, but you have to be really insane or really broken to read facts about how the media lied, which brings you to Donald Trump, and then be like, yeah, but then I started reading more of NBC News and really just decided not to fact-check it. | ||
It's like that simple. | ||
I'll give you an example. | ||
Burisma is the best example, especially with everything that's going on. | ||
There's no circumstance in which you can unlearn the Burisma scandal. | ||
And if you go and say, I don't support Trump, you know, Biden's the guy for me. | ||
Go into a circle of Democrats and say, oh yeah, but you know about Victor Shokin, right? | ||
When he signed the sworn affidavit saying Biden got him fired. | ||
They're going to be like, you're a Nazi. | ||
You're far right. | ||
Get out. | ||
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Yeah. | |
I forget who it was that you were talking to. | ||
You read up on the show about that and they knew nothing about it. | ||
I can't remember who it was now. | ||
Well, that's Breonna Woo. | ||
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Yeah, that's right. | |
That's right. | ||
It was Hunter Avalon. | ||
They have no idea this stuff happened or they're lying and saying they didn't know that it happened. | ||
But the reality is the people who are like, you know, I was a Trump supporter and now I'm not. | ||
OK, maybe you are a Trump supporter because you were living under a rock and your neighbor said he was voting for Trump. | ||
So you said, sure, but you're certainly not someone who pays attention. | ||
What's your take? | ||
Do you think that people are inaccurate when they criticize the left as being communist? | ||
Um, well, if Tim is specifically talking about the militant activists who use those symbols that are associated with communism, well, clearly those are apt labels for them. | ||
I just, you know, I cringe often when I just, when I see people on the right very kind of loosely just calling random, large swaths of the political opposition, just, you know, they're all, these are just all communists. | ||
We're using the term fascists as well. | ||
It's just, one's true and one's not. | ||
Language is so important and meaning in the definitions of words is important. | ||
I just you know, I think playing the same game of what the left | ||
does of just you know, their disregard of how they who they call fascist or who they call far right, whatever. | ||
I think the right should be very careful not to mirror that in | ||
the same way. | ||
Unfortunately, maybe that I think that's so that boat has already sailed. | ||
But why shouldn't they mirror it? | ||
Are you implying that they're only saying it because it was said of them? | ||
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Thank you. | |
Bye-bye. | ||
Yes, and it's about sort of, like, just this rhetorical claim of, like, okay, you call us, you know, you're so loose with the word fascist on our side, we're just gonna call all of you communists. | ||
But that's not what's happening. | ||
It is a fact that they're communists. | ||
It is not a fact... Some of them. | ||
But they, but, right, so you're defining communists as someone who is a learned red communist as opposed to the banality of communism. | ||
Not even necessarily learn it. | ||
They could just... I mean, somebody who just finds appeal in the basic tenets of communism. | ||
Like, if a guy puts on a black hoodie and runs around with Antifa smashing things, is he a communist? | ||
Not necessarily. | ||
He might identify as a militant anarchist. | ||
That's a big part of the Antifa ideology. | ||
But that's not anarchy. | ||
Anarchy meaning without authority, right? | ||
So they can call themselves whatever they want. | ||
I don't care. | ||
That's not true. | ||
Anarchists are not violent. | ||
Right? | ||
Well, there are examples in 20th century European history of anarchist ideologues who've carried out assassinations and other types of violence. | ||
So I would argue the core of the phrase, without authority, would displace a person from the use of violence, and someone who wants to claim they're an anarchist, who then engages in, say, throwing dynamite in a market or something like that, they're not an anarchist! | ||
That's an authoritarian action. | ||
Anarchy is quite literally the word, and without archi-authority. | ||
Anybody who believes that there is no authority of the system, one could make the philosophical argument that they're trying to strip authority from the system, that's why they're an anarchist. | ||
That's not correct, and Most anarchist philosophy. | ||
That's why you'll find among libertarians and what people refer to as right anarchists, the non-aggression principle. | ||
If you use violence against another person, it's an assertion of your authority over them, which defies itself. | ||
What is actually happening is if you look at the anarchist communities, they have inherently tanky authoritarian views on how to run society. | ||
Then they just say, but I'm an anarchist. | ||
Sure. | ||
Like, dude, just because you're stupid doesn't mean you're not a communist. | ||
If they believe Marxist ideology, utilize that ideology and utilize violence to that end, they're not anarchists. | ||
They are someone who believes in an authority, believes in a system, believes that it should be done the way they want it done, and that they are the ones who have the right to use cause of death to get that. | ||
That's not anarchy! | ||
So, this is the issue that we've always had going back to Occupy Wall Street, when these dudes would dress up in all black, and people would call them the anarchists and stuff. | ||
And we would colloquially say it sometimes, but being friends with a bunch of anarchists, especially with, like, Ron Paul Revolution only a few years before, we were like, that's not anarchy! | ||
Running around smashing windows and beating people up because they don't agree with you is quite literally what anarchists are opposed to. | ||
When you argue that the police, for instance, were doing something wrong and they were abusing people, or saying the street was frozen, you couldn't go there. | ||
It was an arbitrary exercise of authority over people that was ill-gotten. | ||
It was false. | ||
When people started putting on hoodies and masks, a uniform, going around saying, do what we say or we will physically strike you, I was like, identical to the police. | ||
And they would go, that's so stupid. | ||
We are not. | ||
I'm like, bro, two guys who are part of groups that dress the same and assert their authority, whether it's warranted or not. | ||
But this is just the no true Scotsman argument. | ||
No, it's not. | ||
If someone comes to you and says they're a thing, does it mean they are a thing? | ||
No, it does not. | ||
Words define things. | ||
So if someone comes to you and they're clearly a white, blonde guy and they say, actually, I'm a black guy from Nigeria, you're going to be like, you are actually a white guy. | ||
Within political philosophies, if there is a faction that identifies within this larger political ideology and they carry out actions in the name of this ideology, I don't think we should necessarily just say, well, they're not acting truly for this particular cause. | ||
There are a lot of women's rights activists who actually really disagree with the work I do, because I particularly talk about how a lot of these women's rights events, it's Antifa, Trantifa, communists and socialists and violent far left coming up to attack these women who are speaking out about trans ideology. | ||
Well, a lot of these women who are speaking out are old school leftists who say, no, no, no, no, these people, They're not leftist. | ||
They're not on our side. | ||
They have nothing to do with us. | ||
They're regressive. | ||
They're not on the same side as us. | ||
And I think that type of denial, it's not reflective of the reality that The on-the-ground manifestation of political philosophy does change over time. | ||
You're not going to have necessarily a peer manifestation every time, but it's still part of that. | ||
I think within the wider anarchist community, anarchists need to start asking themselves a bit more if they're not doing already. | ||
Why are some of the most prominent anarchists we see doing the direct action on the street are the militant Antifa? | ||
Because they're not anarchists. | ||
Your position comes from the, if a person declares themselves to be, they are. | ||
I disagree. | ||
If a communist came out and said, don't worry, I'm not a communist, am I going to be like, well, hold on guys, they're not a communist. | ||
He's wearing a blue jumpsuit with a little commie hat on, holding Das Kapital and waving a communist flag. | ||
I am not a communist. | ||
I say, okay, he's not. | ||
He said he's not, so he's not. | ||
Right? | ||
That's illogical. | ||
Well, that's not what I'm saying. | ||
People can cherry-pick whatever aspects of different texts or historical figures who may represent that political ideology and draw inspiration from it and say that they're part of a longer tradition. | ||
No, I just get frustrated when there's like a... So the issue right now is... Not recognizing a problem on one own side, which I see the left does a whole lot. | ||
But the right is not wrong to call them communists. | ||
So libertarians, conservatives, evangelicals, post-liberals, non-politically affiliated people comprise the far right. | ||
All of those people I just described, this disparate group of people who completely disagree with each other and will actually yell at each other in arguments, are called one group fascists. | ||
All of them. | ||
That's nonsensical and incorrect. | ||
You get a libertarian, you get Dave Smith in here, and he will tell you why he does not like Donald Trump. | ||
But the media and the Democrats will still claim he's a Trump supporter. | ||
There was a famous moment where he was on Fox News and they were like, you know, with Donald Trump, and he's like, I don't care, I don't like Donald Trump, he's a libertarian. | ||
They can't differentiate, everyone's a fascist. | ||
Meanwhile, the bulk, and actually there was a data point we brought up a couple years ago, It showed the cluster of political affiliation, a voting bloc based on social and economic views. | ||
So, it was a two-dimensional grid, or yeah, two-dimensional is a square, mapping out where you stand socially, socially progressive or conservative, and economically progressive or conservative. | ||
Trump's voting base was spread all the way across the economic spectrum, but more socially conservative, and the entire Democrat voting base was clustered in one tight-packed corner of socially and economically progressive. | ||
They all exist mostly in the same space. | ||
So we say, typically, they tend to be communists. | ||
I don't care what they call themselves. | ||
I'm identifying them. | ||
I don't care what they say. | ||
They say, we believe in Marxist ideas. | ||
We believe in critical race theory, critical gender theory. | ||
We believe in critical class theory. | ||
And I'm like, okay, these are communist ideas. | ||
They then say they want massive multinational corporations and centralized authoritarian power from the government to start arresting and locking up their political opponents while they celebrate and clap for it. | ||
You then have more militant factions like Antifa, etc., who will privately say, or on a personal level, they'll say, well, I don't like Joe Biden or the machine either, but I will fight on their behalf. | ||
For example, when Trump supporters were outside of a hospital protesting masks, Antifa showed up and beat the crap out of them. | ||
Why are they defending a government decree? | ||
Because they're communists. | ||
They support the government doing what it wants under this leftist ethos of class, gender, and race oppression. | ||
That's the bulk of the voting base in it graphed out and before us. | ||
They then call all of us fascists despite the fact that libertarians and fascists are arguing with each other. | ||
So you can't just look at and be like it is stupid that the right calls the left communist because the left calls the right fascist, but that's not what's happening. | ||
It is one side is evil, one side is not evil. | ||
Why? | ||
I'm not saying people on the right are good. | ||
I'm saying whatever the right is, it's a disparate group of people. | ||
It is various different ideologies and factions having a discussion on why wokeness and the | ||
establishment machine is bad and calling out the lies from the mainstream media. | ||
The left overwhelmingly marches in lockstep with whatever the lie happens to be, even | ||
though it changes from time to time, sometimes as quickly as a day. | ||
Womikson, women with an X, was the unoffensive thing, and then a day later it was offensive | ||
because it was exclusionary. | ||
This is why they can't define words like woman. | ||
There is nothing to it. | ||
And this is a really great example of it. | ||
You can find people who are pro-life, pro-progressive tax. | ||
You can find people like Jimmy Dore who want universal healthcare, but they're right-wing or fascist. | ||
That makes no sense. | ||
So that's clearly a false determination. | ||
But then you can look at the, at the left and not a single one of them defines the word woman. | ||
And if they do, they use some nonsensical, like we had Lance on the show. | ||
He said, woman is an adult human female and trans women are female. | ||
It's like, okay, you see, there's no logic there. | ||
They're marching in lockstep, but we got to go to super chats. | ||
So we can, we can, we'll carry on that conversation or whatever my, my diatribe in the members only section, but we'll read super chats for now and hear what y'all have to say. | ||
Cause I'm sure everybody's super chatting saying I'm wrong. | ||
Which is always welcome. | ||
So smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, head over to TimCast.com. | ||
We're gonna have that members-only show coming up in about 20 minutes, but for now we will read what y'all have to say. | ||
It's always welcome, but you could skip their super chats. | ||
We have Burtman who says, Palmdale, come back to me. | ||
That's Chris Bourbon, our writer. | ||
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Let's go! | |
6-6-1 in the building. | ||
He got the first check, congratulations. | ||
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Yeah. | |
I'm not your buddy guy says, I love how Trudeau just blamed Russian propaganda for our Senate, giving multiple standing ovations to an actual Nazi who was part of the SS. | ||
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Wow. | |
Yep. | ||
Trudeau says, don't look or question me when I do it. | ||
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Yeah, rules for the... | |
Waffle Sensei says, I really wish Rumble would have literally said pound sand tyrants in their letter back to the UK government. | ||
Missed opportunity. | ||
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Oh, I think they did. | |
I think they did. | ||
Right. | ||
You know, it was it was polite. | ||
It was a plight. | ||
I'm sure Rumble doesn't want to burn bridges. | ||
You know, it's it's one thing if they're being aggressive later, but it doesn't want to potentially be shut out completely. | ||
Shane Wilder says, watch the presser from Eagle Pass today. | ||
I think Rep. | ||
Tony Gonzalez was spot on when he said, quote, we have to stop waiting on President Biden to solve this issue. | ||
Now to see if the Republican can do it. | ||
Look, I think Biden's not solving the issue. | ||
This is part of the plan. | ||
There's a video of CBP, I believe it's CBP, opening a gate at the border and letting people in and counting them. | ||
They are being instructed to open the border. | ||
That's it. | ||
So anybody acting like, you know, why won't they get the job done? | ||
Because this is their plan. | ||
That's it. | ||
Carry on. | ||
OMG Puppy says, with Rumble, this is someone demonstrating their power. | ||
Someone like MI6, they won't accept losing. | ||
I think it seems fairly routine, to be honest. | ||
Like, oh hey, we got an upstart big tech, upstart social media company that's got a high profile celebrity who's speaking out against the Ukraine war. | ||
Shut him down. | ||
There you go. | ||
Bear in mind says, I miss seeing you in my notifications. | ||
That's right. | ||
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Yep. | |
I didn't see one today. | ||
Yep. | ||
No notifications pop up. | ||
If you, if you like the show, that's why I say share the show because probably the only reason the show still exists is because you guys share it. | ||
Did people used to get notifications or was it from the beginning people? | ||
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Oh yeah, yeah, for sure. | |
It's been happening this week, but today no notification at all on my phone. | ||
It depends too. | ||
Cause you don't appear on the trending channel or trending page, but you should, right? | ||
Oh, that's the funny thing too. | ||
When we put out the song Only Ever Wanted on Timcast Music, we were trending on YouTube. | ||
I think we were trending in the top 10 or something like that. | ||
And then, or maybe it was top 20. | ||
And then we put out the song Genocide. | ||
Once again, we were trending. | ||
And I was like, look at that, like our song right next to like Post Malone. | ||
That's crazy. | ||
But we were getting substantially less views. | ||
We got a couple hundred thousand views and we were trending. | ||
And I'm like, Timcast IRL should be trending every single night. | ||
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Yeah. | |
We get a couple hundred thousand views in like an hour or two hours. | ||
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Yeah, based on those numbers. | |
Yep. | ||
Nope. | ||
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There's no real explanation for it. | |
It doesn't make any sense. | ||
I'm sure their argument is if they allowed Timcast IRL to behave normally in the trend section, the same as every video, every night Timcast would be a trending video, which would exponentially increase the amount of viewers we get, the amount of subscribers we get, and then we'd be bigger than Mr. Beast. | ||
They do not want that to happen. | ||
So they suppress. | ||
That's it. | ||
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Yeah, that's true. | |
But if every single person who watched every single time shared this show, then we would be bigger. | ||
It'd take a lot of work and, uh, you know, it is what it is. | ||
All right, let's grab some more. | ||
We got Dallas Smith says, Yo, Andy, good to see you doing well. | ||
I had fun working as your security during the Portland riots. | ||
Let me know if you need me again when you're in town. | ||
God bless. | ||
What was the username for that? | ||
Dallas Smith. | ||
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Huh. | |
No? | ||
Doesn't ring a bell? | ||
You have to go back through your emails and see if you have a connection. | ||
It's cool that people who work security for you, you know, follow your work actually. | ||
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Yeah. | |
It's not just a job for them. | ||
They really like you. | ||
There have been some kind people who volunteered their time because, you know, private security is really expensive and back then. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yeah. | ||
That's cool. | ||
All right, what do we got? | ||
We got, uh, S.A. | ||
Federale says, this is the best podcast in history, but every single time Tim refers to Quad City style pizza as Chicago style pizza, he appropriates my culture. | ||
The west side of Illinois is the best side of Illinois. | ||
I am not saying you don't have the same kind of pizza. | ||
I'm saying real Chicago pizza is not deep dish. | ||
In Chicago, we eat Quad City style pizza. | ||
There you have it. | ||
That's my point. | ||
People go to Chicago and they're like, I want Chicago pizza, and they're like, right this way to the circus. | ||
They bring you to a pizza place people from Chicago don't go to. | ||
You're saying Deep Dish Pizza is a tourist trap? | ||
Yeah, it's great. | ||
You know, uh, Luminati's is really, really good. | ||
We used to have a place, I don't know if it still exists, called Leona's. | ||
And that was really awesome because they had, like, a cornbread crust deep dish. | ||
Awesome. | ||
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Woah. | |
Yeah, it was really good. | ||
Really good. | ||
Yeah, uh, crumbly and delicious. | ||
And, uh, Giordano's, of course, is very famous. | ||
Everybody orders this stuff. | ||
There's, uh, Uno's. | ||
But, uh, if you are a... If you grew up in Chicago with a neighborhood pizza place, it was, like, a flatbread, square-cut pizza. | ||
Is this like, I don't know if this is true or not, but people who are from Chicago, like really from Chicago like the White Sox, but then people who moved to Chicago like the Cubs? | ||
I don't know. | ||
In my experience, if you're on the north side, you're a Cubs fan. | ||
If you're on the south side, you're a Sox fan. | ||
Okay, it's regional. | ||
I don't know anything about the Cubs, to be honest. | ||
It was like, yeah, it's a crosstown classic. | ||
It's the, you know, north-south rivalry. | ||
It was like, you know, everyone's like, you're on the south side, so you're supposed to be Cubs fans. | ||
I'm like, I don't know, my parents were from the north side or something? | ||
I don't know, we went to Cubs games. | ||
Well, the best pizza in America is in New England, so go check it out. | ||
But the thing is, at the time, growing up, the Sox were good and the Cubs were losing. | ||
I remember going to a Cubs game with my family and we left right away because they were losing so miserably. | ||
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Really? | |
Yeah. | ||
And then I remember when the White Sox won the World Series and it was insane in Chicago. | ||
Just like, people were crashing cars and screaming. | ||
It went insane. | ||
That's nuts. | ||
And then when the Cubs won the World Series, there was like nothing happened. | ||
Because it wasn't in Chicago, I guess. | ||
Oh, it makes a big difference, I guess. | ||
But everybody was surrounding Wrigley Stadium while they were playing, you know, I forgot what they were playing, were they playing Cleveland or something? | ||
And then once it ended and everyone cheered for the Cubs finally having won after like 100 years or whatever, everyone just walked to the train. | ||
I think someone broke a window and they yelled at and the cops came and arrested him or something. | ||
That was it. | ||
Everyone just walked and they're like, whoo. | ||
And there was like, well, I guess nobody's drinking. | ||
They're hanging out outside. | ||
If the, if people were at, if, if, if they happened at the Cubs stadium, if the game was actually there when they won, you would have hordes of drunk people losing their minds. | ||
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Yeah. | |
It would have been nuts. | ||
The crazy thing about, uh, Wrigleyville, was that if you got up at like four or five in the morning, right at the crack of dawn, and just walked down Clark Street, you'd probably find a couple wallets, money in them. | ||
You know from personal experience? | ||
Yeah, absolutely. | ||
I lived off of Clark, and you've got a couple thousand drunk people every night just partying. | ||
And so you wake up, there's money lying around, and there's wallets just like on the ground. | ||
Probably like iPhones too at this point. | ||
At this point, yeah, back then we didn't, when was I down there? | ||
That was like 2008 or 9. | ||
So, not a whole lot of iPhones back then, but, you know, people had them. | ||
Now, like, you walk down the street, you'd easily find five, 10 bucks and change if you were just walking down the street, and then you go buy breakfast. | ||
Super easy way to live, to be honest. | ||
All right, where are we at? | ||
What is this? | ||
Let's grab... Damien Simmons says, well, I will be buying stock in Rumble now. | ||
Not financial advice, just showing my support for Dan Bongino. | ||
Just got four more shares. | ||
GameStop this. | ||
Yeah, so I have shares, and I bought shares of Rumble a little while ago. | ||
Cause I believe in the platform. | ||
But I probably won't buy any more because I know the CEO and like, and Tim Kast uses Rumble affiliated companies and infrastructure. | ||
So, you know, I don't like stock trading stuff and I would not want to besmirch my good name in the way Nancy Pelosi besmirches her bad name. | ||
But for everybody else, I would not make any recommendations other than to say, I'm seeing a lot of people talk about how they want to buy Rumble stock. | ||
Rumble stock went down. | ||
A little bit today. | ||
And it's like, it's down from where it started, but that's always to be expected when a company goes public. | ||
But it's funny, because according to the Motley Fool, Chris Pavlovsky, the CEO, is a billionaire. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Wow. | ||
I'm like, is that true? | ||
So based on the amount of shares he has and the value of the shares currently, his net worth should be just around a billion dollars. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
Yeah. | ||
Isn't that crazy? | ||
Yeah, it is. | ||
But it's not like it means anything. | ||
What do you do with it? | ||
You can't sell it. | ||
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All right. | |
Falcon Laser says, Andy, do you believe Robert Silverman, who's done smears on you and Tim when he tweeted that he was just joking about being the leader of Brooklyn Antifa? | ||
Seems like a weird joke to be like, oh, I was just kidding. | ||
It was a performance piece, I guess. | ||
I don't know who this person is. | ||
I don't recall commenting about this individual, so I don't... I think he writes for like the Daily Beast or something. | ||
Okay, yeah. | ||
We should research it and get back to us. | ||
Yeah. | ||
All right, where are we at? | ||
Danny Miller says, thanks for covering the shameful Canadian applause for a World War II veteran who fought against Russia. | ||
Oh wait, wasn't Russia an ally in World War II? | ||
How times change. | ||
Yeah, isn't that crazy? | ||
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. | ||
They have no understanding of history, so they think modern-day standards apply in the sense that Russia is bad guy now, so they must have always been the bad guy, but that's not the case. | ||
Zachary Amnot says, Tim, I'm learning how to play guitar. | ||
I would love it if you would put the chords to play your song Will of the People. | ||
Uh, let me think. | ||
What are the chords that I do? | ||
I think it is... I think it's E alternating between E and B, and then it goes down to G and G flat. | ||
So if you play E, G, G-flat, or is it F-sharp? | ||
F-sharp's probably a more accurate way of describing it. | ||
Yeah, F-sharp. | ||
Depends on who you ask, I guess, but yeah, so E... No, no, no, no, no, no, it's not E, it's B. | ||
It's B, G, F sharp. | ||
There you go. | ||
Congratulations. | ||
There's other chords in the song, but that's the gist of it. | ||
That's like the verse. | ||
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Yeah, I'm sure Carter could write some tabs up for that and put it online. | |
Tabs? | ||
unidentified
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Yeah. | |
I love tabs. | ||
I'm learning how to play bass with those tabs. | ||
Tabs are easy. | ||
unidentified
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Yeah, yeah. | |
Help you learn. | ||
Laura Spade says, I was already boycotting Burger King over the whole Milk Shark situation. | ||
I believe that was when they went on Twitter talking about milkshakes being against Andy Ngo or something. | ||
Was that Burger King or McDonald's? | ||
I don't recall either one of those corporations commenting. | ||
Oh, I think it might have been Burger King. | ||
Yeah, after the thing happened with milkshakes, there was a comment made by some, like, Burger King account? | ||
You wanna look that up? | ||
I'm looking it up. | ||
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Yeah, it was like when, like, Wendy's and Burger King were all trying to be, like, these meme accounts. | |
Remember that? | ||
Wendy's was the only good one, though, you know? | ||
unidentified
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Right. | |
They were really good, actually. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Corporate, family-friendly, how do you pull it off? | ||
I'm not finding anything right now, but I'll keep digging. | ||
Was it Burger King? | ||
It might have been Burger King. | ||
I don't think Laura Spade is wrong. | ||
Jeremy Paul says, reach out to Chris from the To Be Better podcast. | ||
He would be a great addition to the Culture War. | ||
He's smart and libertarian leaning. | ||
I say the best role model for young men in dating culture. | ||
Interesting. | ||
We'll take a look. | ||
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Never heard of that. | |
Red Rum Axe says, Colonel Kurtz today had one of Russell's lovers on her channel testifying he is a great guy. | ||
She was also begging you to have her on your channel regarding M. Manson. | ||
Marilyn Manson? | ||
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Yeah, Marilyn Manson. | |
So wait, someone dated Marilyn Manson and Russell Brand? | ||
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That's a crazy resume. | |
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
It didn't say that she was dating Marilyn Manson. | ||
I'm sorry about that. | ||
Sorry about that. | ||
That was incorrect. | ||
One of Russell's lovers and also wanted to talk about Marilyn Manson. | ||
Is it fair to say that Russell Brand is the UK's Joe Rogan? | ||
Is that sort of like the level that they would be trying to go after hit on? | ||
I don't know. | ||
I mean, maybe the UK is substantially smaller. | ||
Right, like, proportional to the size of their media. | ||
Obviously, we're the more dominant media culture. | ||
But no, it's probably not. | ||
I mean, look, Joe Rogan, he can make a video where he's like, yeah, I saw a dog, and then boom, headlines, like, Joe Rogan tells dog story everywhere. | ||
It's like, what? | ||
Calm down, man. | ||
I think it's funny when Joe Rogan has an opinion, it becomes major news, and I'll see it, like, reported by everybody, and I'm like, jeez, man. | ||
Like, Joe Rogan questions, you know, progressive tax being implemented in, in, you know, Cook County, and then it's just like, what? | ||
I see these stories pop up where it's just like whatever, he makes an opinion. | ||
Because so many people are listening to him. | ||
That's what I kind of wonder about with Russell Brand. | ||
If people who don't consider themselves political listen to him and therefore he's even more dangerous because he has a wider reach than just one fringe political commentator. | ||
We'll grab some more super chats. | ||
The Risk says, first time super chatting. | ||
Name the Halloween coffee Rise or Die with Roberto Jr. | ||
By the way, love Appalachian Nights and Rise with Roberto Jr. | ||
Sleepy Joe for decaf, rock on. | ||
We are launching ReRise with Roberto Jr., and we've already been working on our blend. | ||
So our signature coffees are always some kind of blend combination that we try to find the right flavor. | ||
And for ReRise with Roberto Jr., limited edition, It is a chicken foot bursting out of the grave, because as much as we love Roberto Jr., we're also crass. | ||
But that one, I think, is going to be out just in time for Halloween, hopefully. | ||
And I think we wanted to do an initial, we wanted to do only 500, but it's impossible. | ||
It has to be at least 5,000. | ||
So we're like, okay, well, we'll figure it out. | ||
Maybe we'll be a single run of 5,000 for the season, and then when it's gone, it's gone. | ||
Just to circle back to the Burger King thing, there was a tweet from Burger King after a milkshake was thrown at Nigel Farage, I think? | ||
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Oh, that's what it was. | |
And they got banned because they were saying, like, this is a great idea. | ||
I can't find the tweet because it got banned, but it was after Nigel Farage was thrown. | ||
The Burger King corporate account was like, You're totally right, being like, we're funny and we're very good with the memes. | ||
And Farage was before you, right? | ||
Correct. | ||
Yeah, because it was like they started doing this milkshaking thing and then with you they got really violent. | ||
Yes, beat me on that. | ||
So, I feel bad that during this Super Chat thing, there were questions directed at me, and a lot of it was like, I don't remember, I don't recall that, and that might be part of the, I mean, it's one of probably the lingering effects of the subarachnoid brain hemorrhage that I suffered in 2019. | ||
2019 was that beating. | ||
People just think that I was just hit with, like, drinks. | ||
Like something, but it was much more dangerous. | ||
Well, it was the punches and kicks to my body and bashes to my head and eyes and face. | ||
It was then after that that they threw all the liquids on it. | ||
So I had traumatic brain injury and memory issues, part of that. | ||
So I apologize to any of the viewers out there who are hearing a lot of me saying, I don't recall, I don't know what this is about. | ||
But yes, I do remember the Burger King UK account making light of what happened to Nigel. | ||
They tweeted May 18th of 2019. | ||
Dear people of Scotland, we're selling milkshakes all weekend. | ||
Have fun. | ||
Love, BK. | ||
Hashtag just saying. | ||
Yeah, and that was right after it happened. | ||
Yep. | ||
Let's grab more. | ||
Arthur Palmer says the biggest problem with the media is that they so often scream wolf when there are none. | ||
No one will trust to cry until a wolf bites someone in half. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Joseph says exception, Tim, not the rule. | ||
I know 18-year-old leftists, and they are wonderful people, just lied to constantly. | ||
Explain it with them, we aren't different. | ||
I never said you can't talk to the banality of communism, and you can explain to people, and people wake up. | ||
In fact, I said the opposite. | ||
I said many people do wake up, and they realize, like, holy crap, what I was doing was wrong, and I shouldn't be party to this. | ||
My point is that if there is a group of people Marching down the street smashing windows waving a communist flag organized by a group That's called revolutionary communism, and then you meet a guy who's in there and be like well. | ||
I'm not and it's like okay, but listen That's fine, I get that. | ||
But that's what I would refer to as the banality of evil. | ||
You are facilitating communists and their expansion and institutional capture. | ||
So, your group, you are communists. | ||
It's like there's a dude, it's just, I don't know, I don't see any other point to say it any other way. | ||
To get into the gritty of like, well, it is RevCom, they are revolutionary communists, But some of the people who are working for them in support of communism don't actually know they're communists, so I won't call them that. | ||
It's like, well that's confusing and hard to describe to people what's really going on. | ||
You know? | ||
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I think there's this expectation from people on the right that we should be principled or holier-than-thou and not to adopt the left's tactics, but I think we should do away with that because as deranged as left tactics are, they're effective. | |
But I'm not even saying that! | ||
I'm saying the left is lying about people on the right being fascists because they are evil, and the people on the right are calling them communists, accurately. | ||
So it's more of the left using the Alinsky tactics, accuse your opponents of doing what you do. | ||
Isn't one of the tactics to label your opponents Nazis? | ||
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Uh, yes, literally label them Nazis. | |
Right. | ||
Attack them as fascists. | ||
Exactly, attack them as fascists. | ||
So you will have a libertarian and a Trump supporter having an argument. | ||
We will have two different conservatives in here, Arguing over the war in Ukraine, like, you know, we had Ami Horowitz and Matt Gaetz having a principled and heated discussion on the merits, and Matt Gaetz said, you sound like John McCain, and Ami was like, that sounds like a compliment. | ||
And it's like, right, it's like very different worldviews, but they're both fascists. | ||
Even though that's like no international war, it makes no sense. | ||
Fascism. | ||
That makes no sense. | ||
None. | ||
But we'll elaborate more. | ||
We'll get some more Super Chats in. | ||
Where are we at? | ||
Alright. | ||
Grandstandingandhotadogging says, if Russell Brand was trying to shield himself from his past behavior, he would not be building an anti-establishment audience, he would be acting like Howard Stern and catering to the woke mob. | ||
Keep up the great work, guys. | ||
Exactly. | ||
Howard Stern is a good example of someone who is scared of being MeToo'd. | ||
How many- How much you wanna bet? | ||
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Yeah. | |
Howard Stern, if there was anybody I had to make a guess, it would not be... If you put Russell Brand and Howard Stern in front of me and said, which one do you think is more likely to have abused women? | ||
I'm putting Howard Stern. | ||
I'm like, didn't he do it on his show? | ||
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Right. | |
Yeah. | ||
Like, didn't they have something like launching hot dogs at women's tits or something like that? | ||
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I mean, they had so much stuff on that show, man. | |
I don't know I could be wrong I want to be careful here but I'm just like- I thought it was there was some conversation he was having with um was it Hillary Duff or some like former young starlet that people years later were like oh wow wait a minute maybe this is not okay I mean if that's the first thing things that surface what else has been buried and a lot of people who are in these positions You know, instead of going to the media, people who have allegations against them will go to them with a lawyer and they'll privately settle about it. | ||
So we'll potentially never hear about these things because they've reached some sort of agreement in hopes of getting out ahead of it or keeping it from getting to the media. | ||
Yeah, I mean, like, if you look at Russell Brand, I just Google searched it, and it's like a compilation of Howard Stern abusing women. | ||
And if you look at the stuff Russell Brand was doing to accuse him of, it's like he's making crude jokes on TV that are, like, inappropriate. | ||
And it's like, wow, you know, the people were laughing, they liked that dark comedy. | ||
You look at the stuff Howard Stern is doing, he's legitimately, like, saying things to these women that are just like... | ||
Oh yeah, it's way, way different. | ||
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Yeah. | |
He's not joking, he's literally asking them about their bodies and stuff. | ||
And they're getting uncomfortable, and it's like... Not to mention the stuff he said about Columbine, like holy crap. | ||
Yeah, yeah. | ||
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Yes! I got some Alpha Jerky here. | |
It's good stuff. | ||
Tim knows it's good. | ||
Oh, absolutely. | ||
He was eating it before the show. | ||
It's got no BS. | ||
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Yeah, it's just meat, pepper. | |
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You can follow me on Twitter, at PatriotJ. | ||
I'm on Instagram as well. | ||
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New music coming next year? | ||
Yeah. | ||
That's it. | ||
Thanks for having me. | ||
Ingredients, beef, pepper, salt. | ||
Look at that. | ||
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So good. | |
Big 15. | ||
That's the code. | ||
There you go. | ||
Andy, you want to shout anything out? | ||
Yes! | ||
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Thank you. | ||
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I love that you can do legal services and music. | ||
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Yes, I am. | |
It's good to be back. | ||
Pleasure to meet you, Andy. | ||
I've been watching you for a while. | ||
We were talking about it before the show a little bit here. | ||
Likewise. | ||
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Nice pleasure to meet you. | |
Yeah, and also, pleasure to meet you as well. | ||
I've seen some of your stuff. | ||
Chris has talked about you in the past, I think, before. | ||
I don't remember where I'd seen you before. | ||
Chris Burtman is your number one fan. | ||
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Shut up, Chris. | |
Yeah, man, we got that Antelope Valley connection. | ||
Love Chris. | ||
Yeah, but imsurge.com on X, et cetera. | ||
You know what I always say. | ||
Let's argue. | ||
It's fun. | ||
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