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		Yeah, and it's like, you're talking as I'm pulling it up, and uh, yeah, so we gotta, we have to blanch the brussel sprouts, and uh, you know, salty hot water, and then cold water, and then I think we gotta just put a bunch of butter in a pan and fry them.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		And the thing is, when you blanch them and you cook them in that salted water, it seasons it all the way through.
		It partially cooks it.
		It also gets rid of some of the bitterness, because the chlorophyll leaches out when you blanch it like that.
		The chlorophyll's bitter.
		And then, when you actually do cook it, you only need to cook it for a minute or so, and it's actually tender all the way through, as opposed to overcooked on the outside and raw on the inside.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Earlier today, when we were talking about business plans and, like, you know, building out these brick-and-mortar shops and stuff, We were having food, and then I mentioned it later that it's like funny because, you know, I mean, Chef Grill, you're like a master of cooking, and everybody cooks, and no one's particularly good at it, like a little bit here and there, but no one's like trained very well, so like, I had no idea what blanching even was, you explained it to me, and I'm just imagining like, you're sitting there watching, you know, Allison, she's cooking, and you're very polite, I know, but come on, like, inside, you're just being nice, and you're like, I'm not gonna say anything, but you'll be like at a friend's house watching them cook, and you know they're making a mistake or something, you know what I mean?
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		I mean, yeah, it'd be like if you were watching somebody try and skateboard, right?
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		Like you watch and you're like, oh, they're doing that kind of thing.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		We're all friends here, you know, come on.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what I'll say?
		I look at ingredients and immediately you guys were using good ingredients.
		So like, for me, the technique is kind of secondary to the quality of the original ingredients.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was like, imagine Ian going up to Metallica and be like, you wanna hear the song I wrote?
		Be like, sure, buddy.
		Let's just like, you come on to Metallica, you know what I mean?
		But let's uh, let's talk about the story.
		This story is a story about a story, that's why I want to talk about it.
		Because Dave Portnoy, he absolutely roasts this Washington Post reporter and recorded it.
		I want you to hear just the beginning part, because he fucking destroys these scumbags.
		It's, it's so good.
		I'm sorry man.
		This is, this is, this is awesome shit.
		Check this out, let me play it for you.
dave portnoy ▲ ● ▼		Hey Emily, this is Dave Portnoy calling.
		Uh, I'm recording you right now, but I've noticed a bunch of people you're, it seems like you're sending, we have this pizza fest happening on Saturday and you're reaching out to our advertisers and you're basically sending an email that says to the effect, Dave's a misogynic racist.
		Do you want to defend yourselves advertising at this event?
unidentified		Right?
		I'm sorry.
		What's your name, Dave?
		I'm sorry.
dave portnoy ▲ ● ▼		I'm the guy you're writing the article about, Dave Portnoy.
unidentified		Oh, you're Dave Portnoy.
unidentified		Oh, hey, how are you?
dave portnoy ▲ ● ▼		Good.
unidentified		Good.
		No, I'm not.
		I haven't said anything like that.
dave portnoy ▲ ● ▼		Well, I can read if you want.
		If you want, I can read what you actually sent.
		I have it.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, read.
unidentified		Because I sent a bunch of notes, so I want to make sure I know which ones Okay.
dave portnoy ▲ ● ▼		Uh, we are planning to write about the festival and how, and how some of the sponsors and participants have drawn criticism by seemingly to associate themselves with Dave Portnoy, who has a history of misogynistic comments and other problematic behavior.
dave portnoy ▲ ● ▼		I want to make sure that Blank had a chance to respond to this since the company is the most prominent and their partners of his festival.
unidentified		Oh, that's the one I sent to ****, which was definitely the most poignant of them because I really did want them to respond and I was hoping to get something from Do you think that's fair?
dave portnoy ▲ ● ▼		Like, I totally disagree with the assertions of what you said, that I'm misogynic and all that stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Misogynic.
dave portnoy ▲ ● ▼		It kind of backs people into a corner.
		So I'm happy to go over anything.
		I mean, you have, that is pretty pointed.
		You said you didn't do it.
		Then I have the exact evidence.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So that's the, there's a lot more.
		He then said that they canceled their 10 a.m.
		call.
		Shocker.
		He proposed 5 p.m.
		instead.
		It's 10 a.m.
		or nothing.
		They refused.
		This is why this is so important.
		What Dave Portnoy is calling out is that these are not journalists.
		They're activists.
		The Washington- So they're doing Pizza Fest, because Dave Portnoy does this thing where he reviews pizza.
		I like these videos, I gotta tell you.
		I follow Dave, and when you- and I see a video popping up, I'm like, I'd like to learn about this pizza.
		I'm like, interested.
		And he walks out, he's like, here's the pizza, I'm gonna try it.
		It's fun!
		It's like a minute to watch.
		But so, they sent- this journalist sends an email out saying he's a misogynistic racist, and why would you associate with him?
		That's not journalism.
		At all.
		What they're trying to do is terrify sponsors and get them to drop out.
		These people are fucked in the head.
		These are evil, evil people.
		They are not journalists.
		Journalism died a long time ago, but shout out to Dave Portnoy for calling it out.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		That's the right way to deal with the so-called journalists that act this way.
		You know, put them on the spot, record it all, and brilliantly done.
		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I, part of me, it is kind of frustrating that it's, it's, it's been, it's been a decade plus of this shit and it never ends, you know?
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		You know, what's funny though, is she's like, yeah, can you please read me the email?
		Um, cause I sent a lot.
		So she's almost like, she's like, I actually probably have worse emails.
		So I want to know which one you, you caught me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, it'd be funnier if she was like, ha!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That one?
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that was nothing.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that ain't nothing!
		And this really isn't a threat against Portnoy.
		I mean, it's an attack against Portnoy, but it's a threat against the company saying, oh, if you are associated with Dave Portnoy, it's your company that we're going to say is associated with this stuff.
		So it's a threat against the company itself to say, if you associate with Dave, you're going to be on the On the chopping block.
		You're going to be in the hit list now.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		And if you listen to that interview all the way through, like you and I were listening to it together, it's just like the way she tries to talk her way out of it.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		It's corporate doublespeak.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		It's infuriating.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Listen to this.
		Listen to this.
		Let me play another clip.
unidentified		Sometimes you have to say something like, this is like, you know, it's sort of a reporting tactic.
		When you want someone to respond, you kind of have to indicate that there might be something negative and then you get them to engage.
		That's all I was trying to do.
		I really wanted them to engage with me.
dave portnoy ▲ ● ▼		That's a laud state of journalism if that's a tactic that you have to, what I would say is make up something about somebody.
unidentified		There might be something negative and so you want to give people a chance to respond and have a conversation with you.
dave portnoy ▲ ● ▼		But at the same time, you're saying you don't know that that's actually truth.
dave portnoy ▲ ● ▼		So you're leading with something that you haven't done enough research to know if it's valid.
unidentified		I'm saying that might be a fuller picture.
unidentified		And that's what I want to talk to you about.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		These people are fucking pieces of shit.
		Fuck, dude.
		It's not journalism.
		That's not a reporting tactic.
		She's lying.
		She is a despicable, evil piece of shit.
		Dave's too nice to her.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		She probably believes herself.
		That's the scary thing.
		As she's manipulating and bullshitting, she's probably thinking in her mind, yeah, yeah, that's what I was doing.
		Yeah, I'm good at this.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the thing is, they think that, well, they're activists looking to...
		You know, looking to make a political statement or hinder people that have differing political opinions.
		And so, anything is open game.
		Like, it's just about power and it's just about smearing Portnoy to do whatever they can to affect his influence.
		They want to lower his influence, lower his ability to reach people and stuff.
		And anything is open game.
		It doesn't matter if it's true It's just if they can get people to have a negative opinion of a person, whether it be Portnoy or Russell Brand or whoever, Rudy Giuliani or whatever, it doesn't matter what they've actually done or what the truth is because
		And I talk about this fairly frequently when you're dealing with certain people that are this type of authoritarian person that they don't care about the truth.
		They don't have any, they're not looking to come to expose anything about honesty or the truth.
		It's all a power game.
		They don't believe in liberal principles.
		They're authoritarians.
		They are completely comfortable with destroying someone's life because they have a different political opinion.
		This is a reflection of the actual political warfare going on in the US, and it's not just in the realm of politics.
		Anyone that has the ability to influence people...
		In what we would consider a positive way.
		Do things for yourself.
		Go out and make something of your own, of your life.
		Go and do things to better your community, better your family, have a family.
		These kind of things that are fairly traditional values that are exceedingly inoffensive, but they want to do what they can to discredit people that would promote those values, specifically people like Dave that have been successful and have made money and have a voice.
		And that's all it is.
		It's a smear tactic.
unidentified		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They're dirty smear merchants.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So here's what happens.
		Mincy, uh, one of the personalities for Barstool, raps some lyrics, which includes the n-word.
		But, uh, in a rap song.
		He gets fired from Barstool because Barstool was owned by Penn Entertainment.
		They did a deal with Dave Portnoy.
		They bought him out.
		If you go to your local Hollywood, you see the big Barstool sports book and bar.
		They're really fun.
		I love it.
		Out at Charlestown Hollywood Casino.
		You go to the Barstool sports book.
		You can make sports bets.
		You can order food.
		There's little kiosks.
		It really is fun.
		They have this big TV.
		It's probably like 20 or 30 feet.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Massive!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can watch the game.
		It's a blast!
		Well, they fire Mincy.
		Dave comes out and says, look, I have no control over this.
		They're talking about pulling gaming licenses from these casinos over this kind of shit.
		And he's like, I'm not the boss anymore, right?
		We sold.
		So what Dave does is he hires Mincy at a different company of his to keep Mincy working.
		Awesome.
		Class act.
		And then here's the best part.
		Hollywood Casinos, Penn Entertainment.
		Gives the company back to Dave Portnoy.
		I kid you fucking not.
		A $500 million deal to Dave Portnoy, and they gave him the company back.
		And they said, if you ever sell it, we get half.
		And Dave's like, I ain't fucking selling it.
		Immediately hires Mincy back.
		So you want to know why they're coming after him and why they're angry?
		Because they want to send the message, if you rap, we fuck you.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Dave just said, fuck, no you don't.
		They've gotta go after him and they can't allow Barstool to be a pri- It's sports, man.
		Barstool's not, not... It's sports.
		It's not political.
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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Dave's not gonna fire a guy for this stupid bullshit and they need him to.
		They can't have media institutions that will say, ah man, just apologize and we'll move on.
		Who gives a fuck?
		They can't have that.
		They need you to beg.
		And so long as other media outlets grow and build influence, they're in bad shape.
		This is good news.
		What we're seeing here shows that not only are they losing, Dave Portnoy is smacking them down to their faces, but the fact that Barstool is growing and doing their thing and going back independent shows that they're losing their institutional power.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		And you know what's going to happen over the next week, two weeks?
		They're all going to come after Dave because he embarrassed them.
		And the Washington Post is up there on the rung of, you know, do not embarrass us.
		We are setting the standards.
		So they're all going to start coming after him.
		It was the insider who did the original hit, and he completely dragged them through the mud.
		But the insider was kind of, like, fringe to begin with.
		Oh, they're going to accuse him of rape, huh?
		Yeah, this is the playoffs, and now we're going into the World Series.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In two days, they're going to be like, uh, several rape accusers just came out.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		Well, they did that, but it's gonna keep coming.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Today in Portnoy?
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, that's what Insider was about.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		They did that whole- Oh, right, right, that's right!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They already tried it!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Every man is a rapist now these days, holy fuck.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		We'll all remember this conversation, it's coming.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Another thing about the whole rape accusations and stuff like that, men and women have not had so much animosity towards each other at any other point in human history that I can think of, or anything like this.
		The battle of the sexes and stuff like that, Pitting men and women against each other.
		It's terrible for society.
		Men and women need each other desperately, desperately need each other, like really badly.
		And all of this stuff makes men say, it's not worth getting married.
		I'm going to end up, you know, she'll divorce me.
		She's going to meet someone that's got more money, someone more successful.
		She's going to take the kids.
		She's going to take all my money.
		But like, there is almost nothing beneficial.
		There is no narrative for a young man to get married that looks good.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		And my piece of advice to that is that when you do find the right person, you lock that down.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		I met my wife, we were married in five weeks and now we have four kids.
unidentified		Wow.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		Five weeks.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		Five weeks we were married.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Good on ya, but that is not typical.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		I had to lock it down.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And this is, and this is, the thing is dudes don't want to lock it down though.
		Dudes are saying the whole MGTOW stuff and all, and people like, the reason people like Sneeko are getting the, uh, getting attention and Zerkaa are getting attention is because of the way that women behave towards men.
		I'm not a fan of Sneeko or Zerkaa's content.
		They're funny, but I'm a 40-something year old guy.
		10, 11, 12, 13 year old kids shouldn't be watching this.
		This shouldn't be how they form their opinion of women.
		By dudes like, like those dudes are the last dudes that you want a kid whose mother raised him, dad wasn't around, and these are the clowns that are the, you know, the parental figure or the authority figures as adults.
		I mean, regardless of what your opinion on Tate is, he's not the kind of dude that you want young guys emulating.
		He's just not.
		You want young guys that are like, I want to be a family guy.
		I want to have, you know- Jason Howardson.
		Yeah, exactly!
		Though, good people that want good things for their community, not, you know, just to load their bank account up and stuff.
		So it's like, it's horrible.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You want all these things, but I'll tell you what's gonna happen.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		People are just gonna plug into their neural links and then go have cyber, robo AI sex in the metaverse.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's not that I don't disagree, but...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's gonna be weird shit, dude.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, people's brains will be fractured.
unidentified		Yeah!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, but for real, like, they're gonna make babies in bags.
		That's what they're talking about doing already.
		And people's sexualities will be so fractured and psychotic that humans won't be able to, outside of the pods, actually interact with each other anymore.
		Like, already you've got dudes' brains broken by porn.
		Imagine what the AI metaverse Neuralink is going to be for these people who are plugged in.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		Well, you have no survival instinct.
		You were done as a species.
		I mean, there's going to be the elites, and then there's going to be all of those that are plugged in.
		The elites will be plugged in, but on a different level, right?
		Like, they're going to be plugged into... Yeah, they're going to have mods.
		They're in first class.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're going to have administrative controls over you.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's gonna be fucked up.
		But I think a lot of people will be in singular universes, where it's just them and then a bunch of AI people, like, they're playing GTA for the rest of their life.
		And then they'll come out periodically, but they'll have the feeding tube with the bugs plugged in their neck.
		They're not gonna want to leave it!
		The Matrix!
		I think that was the original story, that people chose to be in the Matrix.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		So how does the reproduction occur then?
		In bags.
		At whose behest?
		Like, who's determining...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So elites won't go in the matrix the same way that regular people will, right?
		For instance, the average person plays video games, you know, I shouldn't say the average person, but there are a lot of people who play video games endlessly and do nothing.
		Young people who don't go out, don't get jobs, they call them hikikomori in Japan.
		Elites don't have that problem.
		So, the people who are going to be in the pods are going to be the lower class, the uneducated, the working class that are excised from society due to technological advancements and automation.
		The elites, they'll have Neuralink to a certain degree, but they'll stay in real life, where they'll own and control everything.
		Look, for what reason would a multi-millionaire playboy have for going into the metaverse?
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		Pleasure principle.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look, you get some dude who lives in his basement, he's gonna want to be a knight in shining armor saving the
		princess.
		But, Joe Rogan?
		He's gonna be like, dude, I have all of these really awesome things that I love.
		So he might go and sometimes, like I play Baldur's Gate, but I don't dedicate all of my time to playing Baldur's
		Gate, wishing that I was in there fighting dragons and stuff like that.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, I mean, that's the problem.
		It's the facsimile of success, or the facsimile of relationships with AI, something like that.
		I think the ultimate goal of the elites is to live forever, right?
		I mean, they talk pretty openly about that, and at this point, they think they're on the technological cusp of multiple forms of living forever, whether that's reversing aging and living forever physically, or not having a natural death physically, or by uploading their consciousness to computers.
		Let them do that.
		Well, here's the problem.
		Obviously that's an unsustainable, like, not everybody can take advantage of that, right?
		You can't have everybody living forever.
		You can't, because you can't have infinite birth without death.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Let them upload because they're just gonna die because you can't upload your consciousness to a computer.
		Your brain is your consciousness.
		Like, I'm not a dude, I'm like, I'm a very secular dude.
		I'm not, I'm an agnostic.
		I don't really particularly believe in spirits or souls.
		Your brain is why you have consciousness.
		You don't get to upload your consciousness, and your consciousness is not something that's detached from your brain.
		Your brain is your consciousness.
		Maybe you could plug your brain into tubes and keep your brain alive, but the idea of uploading into a computer, I don't buy it.
		Not at all.
		So let them try.
		Go ahead.
		Throw your body away, upload your brain into a computer, and they can do whatever they want.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's the meme.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a guy looking at- it's like, I think, American Psycho looking up, Christian Bale, and it's like you looking up from hell watching your AI clone live the rest of your life or whatever.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's how I see it personally, so sorry to cut you off.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		No, no, but either way, whether you believe it or not, that's what these people believe, right?
		So a lot of what they're doing now is trying to set up a situation where they can have immortality in whatever form it takes, and obviously not everybody can have access to immortality techniques, immortality tech.
		And that's an impossibility for everybody to have it, so certain elites will have it, and they'll essentially be, at that point, gods amongst humans, and they'll be able to dispense immortality to everybody who serves them.
		So all the regular mortal humans will be in a situation where they have this treat dangling out for them.
		You too can be immortal if you serve us, if you do our bidding.
		So I mean, that's the ultimate goal of all of this.
		is essentially the fulfillment of the serpent's promise in the Garden of Eden, right?
		Follow me and you too will be as gods.
		They want to set themselves up as gods, immortal beings who dispense immortality to the mortals if they serve them and praise them and worship them correctly, which people will.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Personally, I don't have a problem with the idea of extending lives and stuff like that.
		If we can get it to the point where technology can extend people's lives, fine.
		I don't have that gut revulsion that some people feel to that.
		But that being said, it's not like we should be encouraging these people to do experiments and stuff on Hello everyone!
		My name is Kyle.
		I don't see I see a lot of problems coming personally. Let's uh, let's jump to callers
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to our callers to see what y'all have to say. We got adventure kyle's we are pulling you in sir
unidentified		I hope you are prepared Hello everyone, what up? My name is kyle. I'm a geologist
		trying to escape from california and I have a question for the whole group
		Okay, as does the house financial services committee's passage of a bill to ban the federal reserve from creating
		a centralized Digital currency actually mean anything?
		Or is it another meaningless gesture from Republicans?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry, man, they're all meaningless gestures.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, you saw they found Matt Gaetz's bill to remove McCarthy in the bathroom?
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		On a baby changing table?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's just like, I don't know, man.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		Passing that bill is not going to do anything because ultimately it's not going to push through any other level of government.
		And then if they want to do it, they're going to do it because there's so many of these agencies now that are just independent from any legislative process that if they decide that's what they want to do, that's what they're going to do.
		It maybe raises awareness.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		It's also probably not going to happen through the Federal Reserve.
		It'll happen through a supranational organization like the IMF or something like that.
		I mean, it's all going towards global government, which already is being built.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't imagine that The House passing it is going to matter much considering the Senate isn't going to pass it, or the Senate's Democrats, and if the House passed it, it's going to look like a Republican bill.
		The Democrats are going to say no.
		And I don't think that there's any incentive for the President to veto or to pass that kind of Limitation on the government.
		The government doesn't like to limit itself.
		It doesn't want to, at all.
		That's why the government hates the Constitution, hates the Bill of Rights, because all these things limit government.
		That's why they're constantly trying to get around it, so I don't see any compelling reason to believe that even if the Republicans could pass a bill with teeth, I don't see it getting past the Senate, and I certainly don't see the President signing it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I wonder if there was no Constitution, would the country, would the United States Revolt more often.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because I'm wondering if the Constitution is effectively a speed bump for tyrants.
		It makes it harder for them.
		It does protect our God-given rights.
		But if they were to just rapidly oppress and the government expanded too much, people might just lose their fucking minds faster.
		And it might actually resolve the issues.
		I don't know.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, I think, yeah, you know, the Constitution, your rights are not what's on some piece of paper, it's what you're willing to fight for, to quote my predecessor at InfoWars, David Knight.
		And, yeah, I think you're right, it is speed bumps to tyrants, but the problem is that we have lost the underlying philosophy that makes the things in the Constitution important.
		It's not important because it's in the Constitution, free speech is important because it's necessary for a free society, and if you lose sight of that, which a lot of Americans have, than the fact that it's on a piece of paper written 200 years ago doesn't matter.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what I realized, though?
		That this country would be substantially better off if there was no constitution at all, but I was the sole monarch authority of the nation, because only I know what is right for everybody, and I realized that.
		But then I also realized there's probably millions of people who would stand in my way to achieving my utopia and securing peace and harmony for my new empire, and they'll have to be disposed of.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		The thing is, when you're plugged in, all of this can become a reality.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's called the Darth Vader.
		Jason Cost, our drummer, he used to be like, he's like, Phil, you talk about politics, and then I think one thing, and then I hear you explain other stuff, and then I'm just like, well, we just have to get Darth Vader to kill everybody then.
		He's like, I don't have the patience you do to talk about this stuff.
		He's like, I think the lightsabers should come out.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's funny when you, when you talk to people that aren't in politics, like we are like, cause you know, obviously we are aware that like our voices are listened to by people.
		So we're like, then you go and talk to like your, your neighbor down the street and they're just like, I got my gun ready.
		I'm ready.
		I'm just waiting for the, like, people are out there are ready to go, man.
		Like to a very, very good.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		Have you been to Appalachia?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it's funny because I have these people and I'll like, I'll say like, hey man, I'm concerned about civil war.
		And then these left is like, oh, touch grass.
		It's like, you're the one screaming about insurrection, dude.
		But have you been to Appalachia and talk to these people?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's scary as shit.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're ready.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		People out here in the mountains are like, they've always been very anti-establishment, put it that
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		way.
		It's the classic quote, those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable.
		I mean, they are proving time and time again that they're, and it's almost on purpose, that they're rubbing our face in the fact that you cannot vote your way out of this, you cannot peacefully protest your way out of this, we will arrest you and throw you in jail for the next 20 years if you try.
		But, you know, so we're in this sort of impossible situation because, you know, obviously if there was some sort of civil war situation, if the government that we have now is still in existence when, you know, you have a mass amount of people rising up, you think our government would hesitate for a single second to invite the UN in, to invite even, you know, the Chinese troops?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Personally, I don't even think that an invite is necessary.
		The United States has too many nuclear missiles.
		So the UN, if there were a significant, sizable civil conflict that broke down into, you know, multiple factions, because it wouldn't be, you know, North versus South or whatever, it would be factions fighting, it'd be like Syria.
		I think that there is ample, ample justification for the UN to say, we need to go ahead and get all of the countries that are in NATO.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Get into the US, invade, take over to secure the nuclear weapons.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		Save them from themselves.
unidentified		100%.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There is no part of me that thinks that that's outside of the question.
		So that's why I used to be very pro- U.S.
		divorce or, you know, civil divorce or whatever, you know, national divorce and stuff.
		I'm not so sure it's a good idea anymore because if you try it, I think that that is an in for actual globalist military to come in and use, securing nuclear weapons as a reason.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		And then we're all immigrating to Mexico.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Good sir, we certainly went wild on your question.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm wondering if you wanted to elaborate or if that was sufficient because we kind of went way off the rails.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		I forgot what the question was.
unidentified		Exactly.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, CBDC, yeah.
unidentified		So my understanding then is we just need to wreck shop and get new people in?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We need to elect Trump.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because there's a lot that could come after.
		And everyone, it's, look man, when I say vote for Trump, I am not saying all your problems are solved.
		I'm saying, hold on, hold on, hold on.
		Before whatever it is you're thinking about, We see if this Trump thing works.
		That's all I'm saying.
		Who knows what the fuck happens afterwards.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think the problem is that they're going to implement this CBDC sort of whether we like it or not, and it's likely going to come after a massive false flag cyber attack that shuts everything down.
		And they're going to go, hey, look, this fractured independent system with all these banks and the cash, it's too unsafe.
		It's too unstable.
		We have to have a centralized digital currency.
		And then that digital currency will be, it'll expire.
		You'll only be able to, you know, use it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it's a mistake.
		I think what's actually gonna happen is there will be a cyber 9-11 that hits the banks and then they will say, fear not good citizen, your income is, your money is insured by the FDIC.
		Just download central bank app in your play, in the play store, the app store, enter your social security number, take a picture of ID, we'll verify your account and you will get the equivalent of all of the money you had in your bank in central bank digital currency.
		They won't call it CBDC.
		They'll just, they'll call it the new app And they'll say, this is how we recover from this crisis.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that's, you know.
		But, uh, anyway, let's, uh, we'll jump to our next caller.
		So, thanks for calling in, buddy.
		You good?
unidentified		Thanks.
unidentified		Yeah, thanks.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright, thanks for calling in, man.
		We will jump to our next caller.
		And we have Dex2735.
		Welcome to the year 2023.
		What's it like in the year 2735?
unidentified		Uh, you know, we're all in the pods, eating bugs.
		Still!
		The usual.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The usual.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What's going on?
unidentified		So my question has to do with the stuff going on with Russell Brand.
		So basically, you know, given that they're showing signs of desperation, trying to silence anybody that speaks out against the narrative, do you think that they might Uh, do you think they might actually, I guess, ramp up their attacks against Trump?
		Maybe, you know, to, uh, I guess, try to put it lightly?
		Or not putting it lightly, but... Shuffle him loose, this mortal coil?
		I was gonna say, give him a ride in a convertible limousine.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Um, man, someone in 2015, I think it was, tried to kill him.
		Right?
		That guy who tried to grab the gun from the cop and they had to drag him out?
		You just said a guy tried sneaking into an RFK Jr.
		event with weapons, pretending to be a security guard.
		I don't know, man.
		I wouldn't put anything past them, but I will say this.
		They don't do assassinations for the most part anymore.
		They do character assassinations.
		The problem is they accuse Trump of rape and nobody gives a shit.
		It's like, they're like, well, Russell Brand's a rapist.
		Don't care.
		Trump's a rapist.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Heard that one before.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		The other problem is that, you know, the Trump supporters are so suspicious of something like that, I think they're kind of terrified of anything happening.
		I mean, I think if Trump had a heart attack tomorrow, nobody would buy it.
		Everybody would be like, oh, they killed him, time to go crazy.
		So it's almost like the... Keep him alive.
		Yeah, they want to keep him alive just because they know that Americans will go insane if anything happens to him, which is sort of like the best protection he has at this point.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		Jailing him is their answer, right?
		And the thing is that there's not just one way to jail him, they're going to try and come at it from every single angle.
		That's the avenue by which they're going to basically, quote, assassinate him is by leaving him in jail as long as possible and make sure he's not on the ballot.
unidentified		Well, yeah, but I think, given what happened with the Mugshot, I think that's only going to make him stronger, and I don't know.
unidentified		That's just my thoughts.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that flipped on them.
		They weren't anticipating that, right?
		So they obviously have to take a detour now, but I still think that ultimately that's the endgame.
		Now it's just a matter of how they kind of work the strategy through along the way.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think Trump should legitimately have, like, a Praetorian Guard.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Like, he needs, like, 200 veterans who just, like, pledge a blood oath to protect him with their lives against anybody, even, like, the lawful authorities of the United States.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Say psych, please.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Personalized armies are not so good!
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		No, no, I'm not advocating for it, I'm just like, it's like, that's, you know, that's... They'll get him, look what they did to Gaddafi, right?
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that guy had so many people protecting him.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, man.
		I don't know, that's a tough question, but I think...
		You ain't seen nothing yet.
		2024 is gonna be fucking nuts, bro.
		There's gonna be videos of, like, you know, Phil punching a cat or something.
		It's just like, you just, you name it, like, if you weren't any way involved in politics, there's gonna be weird-ass, wacky shit people are gonna just make with fake AI bullshit.
		There's going to be a video of Trump spitting on a homeless guy.
		And people are going to be like, is that real?
		I don't know anymore.
		And then what's going to happen is the media is going to report shocking video of Trump spitting on a homeless person emerges.
		And then all at the bottom of the article, after 7,000 words, it'll say, the video may be fake.
		We're not sure.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I don't know.
		When Chase Geiser made the AI of me, my voice, my mom was like, oh my gosh, this AI stuff, it's so scary, I don't know what to trust anymore.
		My response was like, do you trust things now?
		Like, wait, what do you mean now you don't know how to trust?
		You should have not been trusting anything for the last 20 years unless you can actually find logical or rational or tangible proof of what you're seeing.
unidentified		Trust the lobster, Harrison.
unidentified		Trust the lobster.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Jordan.
unidentified		I will be the Lobster King.
		Yep.
		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, was that was that good, sir?
unidentified		Yeah, but I also have just one quick question.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Get it.
unidentified		So, Trump was recently open to the idea of having a female vice president.
		This actually got me a little concerned.
		Maybe he's hinting at Nikki Haley possibly being his running mate.
		What are you guys' thoughts on that?
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		I think he was hinting at Kristi Noem.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, maybe.
		Maybe Gnome.
		I mean, I gotta be honest, I don't know.
		If Trump picks Nikki Haley, I don't know if I'd vote for him.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he likes her.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		He was really perturbed at the way that she quasi-turned on him after the- Christy Gnome's good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that might be a good bet, you know?
		Look, man, I'm at like 51% for Trump, right?
		Michael Malice's mentality, I'm pretty sure that's what he was saying, is that Biden being in office is good.
		It just continually hurts them and makes them look incompetent, pathetic, and bad.
		And so you've got the, it's almost a kind of accelerationist view.
		Let the old bumbling, fumbling moron sit in the chair and just destroy their credibility more and more and shatter the confidence in the establishment.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, though, because I think that what it reveals is that Biden is not really in charge, that there are people behind the scenes operating.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean... I disagree with that.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Really?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The chaos of the federal government is so insane, it could only be Joe Biden!
		Like, when Afghanistan happened, when they were withdrawn, there was no plan whatsoever.
		It was just random bullshit happening.
		And, like, people were, like, random officials were just going in random directions.
		They leave Bagram.
		There's no plan there.
		Everybody keeps saying there's a puppet master behind Biden.
		I'm like, I don't know, this kind of makes sense.
		There's no strategy for anything.
		First, Biden's like, Bidenomics is doing great!
		And then when the economy falls, it's Morganomics!
		Like, This what I see with the fractured and um what's what's the right what's the right word dejected uh dejected state of the government.
		It makes perfect sense that people are taking orders from Biden who's whacked out of his mind and can't think straight.
		Like, if there was a cohesive plan, you would see things being done.
		Instead, it's chaos and disarray.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		See, I think it's, I think it's like what we saw when, uh, you know, Trump started talking about the deep state and first it was, uh, no, there's no such thing as the deep state, but it very quickly became, yeah, there is a deep state and thank God there is because the deep state is the one that's saving us from Trump.
		I think it's a similar tactic there where it's like, Oh, don't worry about Biden being a bumbling idiot.
		The deep state will take care of you.
		The deep state has things under control.
		Trust the anonymous, you know, unelected spy apparatus to take care of you because you can't trust your elected officials.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, man.
		I think Trump should win, because he's our best bet.
		But I don't know what happens if Trump doesn't get the job done.
		And I'm not confident that we have a strong guarantee he does.
		It's just this is the best thing we should do right now.
		A lot of people are saying a lot of crazy shit.
		I'm just saying, bro, all I gotta do is vote for Trump right now.
		And that might actually be a good path forward.
		I think it is a greater than probability chance than a greater than chance probability that Donald Trump does enough to turn things around.
		So people should not be acting all crazy like.
		But, uh, anyway, good sir.
		Thank you for calling in.
unidentified		Thank you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Have a going, buddy.
		And we will jump to our next caller.
		Future Mars citizen.
		Ah, in the future, you will be a citizen of Mars.
		Are you applying for SpaceX's thing?
unidentified		Uh, you know, I actually would be on board with that.
		I know there was, what, a while back, they were gonna take a hundred volunteers or something?
		They're saying they're gonna be married couples, though, I think.
		Hey, I'll marry.
		I'll go to Mars.
		Let's do this.
		Harrison, my morning cup of coffee is not the same without you, sir.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
unidentified		Don't be sorry, just make sure you're always there at 9 a.m.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Eastern.
		Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, thank you.
		Yeah, thanks for, uh, thank you for that.
		Thanks for watching.
unidentified		So, yeah, I have a question for you.
unidentified		Have you ever stopped to consider that maybe it's all the fault of the Jesuits and the Freemasons?
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		That has never once crossed my mind.
		Now that you mention it, this is a novel idea I haven't heard before.
		Yeah, yeah, so you are a listener.
		Yeah, we get that almost every day.
		I'm told it's the Jesuits.
		I'm also told I'm a Jesuit, which is news to me.
		So, yeah, apparently the Archbishop of, what was it, New York controls everything.
		So, you know, there we go.
		Top of the pyramid.
unidentified		Sorry.
		I had to.
		I had to.
		Yeah, that's funny.
		If people listen, they get that.
		So, my serious question is that AJ's been kind of like escalating the discussion around running out of funds.
		So are we going to have InfoWars for at least a few more years, get us through 2024 election and all that?
		And I mean, what is your concern level with with all of that?
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Hmm.
		That's a good question.
		You know, it sort of depends.
		I think we'll I think we'll know more in the next couple of months, because I think the as far as I understand it, the bankruptcy proceedings are sort of winding down.
		I mean, there are ways to get around any of this. I don't want to talk too much about
		it, but I don't believe Infowars is going anywhere anytime soon. Because Alex set up such a
		brilliant system by having the Infowars store and selling supplements, he's really playing on the
		fact that as fallen and dejected as America has become, we still have this capitalist core,
		which means that if you want to sell something and someone wants to buy that something, you can
		sell that person that thing. So, because we don't
		Because that's the way that we operate and we don't rely on advertisers, as long as the InfoWars store can still exist, then we can still exist because we can still sell products to our listeners.
		The only reason we've lasted this long is because of the way Alex set it up and that he saw this coming, and I don't plan on going anywhere anytime soon.
		I don't have an escape hatch planned yet, so that would be a bummer for me to see that go away.
		So far, we haven't laid off anybody.
		We've actually hired some new people.
		We're still building out.
		We're still growing and expanding.
		So we've just been sort of hampered and hobbled because of the bankruptcy.
		But as far as I know, we're not going anywhere anytime soon.
		And I think we'll find out the real trajectory within a couple months once the bankruptcy proceedings come to a close.
unidentified		Right on.
		That's awesome to hear.
		There's a thing the communities want to know, if there's time for a little short add on.
		Yeah, hit it bro.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Try and go quick though, but you got it.
unidentified		Yeah, sorry.
unidentified		Based on AJ and Owen's recent persecution, have you ever received threats from the federal government, and is that a concern for you personally?
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Uh, you know it is now just because of the way things are going and this was sort of the this with the newest things happening with January 6 where you've got the Proud Boys being convicted of an unspoken conspiracy it's that's sort of terrifying because my position has always been like I don't call for violence.
		I don't do any of the things that would put me outside of the restrictions of the First Amendment.
		So I always am within the First Amendment.
		So it's always like, you know, no matter what they do, they can't prosecute me for my speech.
		I don't know if that's true anymore.
		So I've never been questioned by the, I don't know.
		As far as I know, the answer is no, I've not been targeted for anything, but the way things are going, you know, it is scary that like, because essentially what they've set up with Owen's Thing in particular, like his persecution in particular, is that essentially by saying, it's like this, people did violence, people rioted because they believed the election was false.
		Therefore, if you spread the idea that the election was false, you are therefore responsible for the violence that was enacted on the basis of that idea.
		So that's sort of terrifying to me, and I think that that's the way things are going.
		But I think the worst thing to do in that situation is to give in and to stop asking questions and to stop speaking out.
		I mean, I think that would make it easy for them.
		So if they're going to destroy the First Amendment, they've got to actually destroy the First Amendment before we stop utilizing it.
		So no, I've never been targeted as far as I know.
		I've never been in legal trouble as far as I, you know, or anything like that as far as I know.
		So I'm just going to keep doing what I do, which is just say what I believe without really thinking about it too much.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on, man.
		Thanks for calling in, buddy.
		That was good.
unidentified		Yes, thank you, sir.
		I hope everyone in this room gets to keep on doing what they're doing.
		Love you guys.
		Thank you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		As long as we can.
		Thanks for calling in, man.
		Let's jump to the next caller here.
unidentified		We got Jeff Sickles.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that what it is?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Jeff Sickles?
unidentified		Jeff Sickles.
unidentified		Right, like icicles.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ah, Jeff Sickles.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What up?
unidentified		Hey, guys.
		Big fan, Sam.
		Thanks for taking my call.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for calling in.
unidentified		Yeah, okay, so I wanted to run an idea by you guys, see what you think, because you ran a bit earlier about that super cringy commercial about abortion that the guys are running.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you guys see that one?
unidentified		That was bad.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		My daughter's been raped!
unidentified		I'm your Republican congressman, and I'm gonna watch her!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Jesus.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		MAGA is watching you.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Creepy.
unidentified		I kind of wish Seamus was here because he's like the abortion expert.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		But if we can make it so that there's an addendum or an extra punishment that gets tacked on if you rape someone resulting in an abortion, that way there's still a legal recognition that a life was lost.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Agreed.
unidentified		But nobody's forced to raise a rape baby.
unidentified		I've never seen anybody put that idea out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I love it.
		I love it.
		If a rapist rapes a woman, and she becomes pregnant, and then gets an abortion, he gets charged with murder.
unidentified		Oh, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Totally, totally think so.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		That's brilliant.
		I hadn't heard that before.
		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I also, I mean... Rape and murder now.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the number of abortions that result from rape or incest, like it's such a very small number.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In Ohio, I think the number that I came up with doing the general math and all the stats is six in a year.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Total?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Out of all the rapes, so 5% of rapes result in pregnancy.
		And Ohio... Oh no, I'm sorry, it was six underage.
		It's actually a couple hundred per year.
		Several hundred.
		Maybe like 200 is a fair assessment for just Ohio.
		But we're talking about 30,000 rapes in total.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then... Yeah, I think... I forgot how it broke down.
		I did the math on my channel earlier.
		It's statistically a decent amount nationwide.
		But I just think that's the solution right there.
		It's like, okay, how about this?
		You're like...
		They're right saying don't blame the innocent child.
		You've got a problem of the rights of the woman who did not consent to take on a child.
		And people are like, yeah, but you can't kill the baby.
		And I'm like, I get it, man.
		The argument from pro-lifers, it makes sense, but it conflicts with individual liberties and rights in a way that I don't know how to rectify.
		The argument is, The rights of the woman are superseded by the life of the baby.
		The discomfort and health risks are not death, therefore, but that's a utilitarian approach.
		It's tough.
		I still have a more deontological, you can't make an immoral action against an individual, but the problem becomes a baby and the mom, an immoral action has to be taken.
		Yeah, I don't think that's it.
		about an abortion no matter what.
		Either the rape victim is forced to carry the baby immoral or the baby gets terminated immoral.
		There's no, there is no easy answer.
		So charge the rapist with murder.
		I dig it.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't think that's it.
unidentified		Well, you guys liked the idea.
unidentified		That's awesome.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it's a great idea.
unidentified		I've never seen anybody else push it before.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I know, I never heard that.
		That's a really good idea, though.
		Then you go to the women, you're gonna be like, well, we don't want you to get an abortion, but my view is, if a woman does not consent to carry a baby, then the government cannot force her to carry the baby.
		The baby shouldn't have to die, but I just don't see how, like, you rectify these situations.
		Maybe with these bio bags and artificial wombs, you can save babies in the circumstance, but in the event the woman chooses to abort because she didn't consent, Rape is murder.
		And that, to be said, to add to that, I actually don't agree with any, like, I am libertarianally pro-choice.
		Maybe, like, there's a certain time frame within a few weeks where it's, like, the discretion of the mother, only for liberty-minded reasons.
		Understanding that there are bad people who exploit this, but morally, I don't see why elective abortion is legal at all.
		There's no argument for it.
		A woman chooses to have sex with a man.
		She invites a baby into her womb, and then later says not kill it.
		No, you can't do that.
		It's nine months.
		That's all you're obligated to.
		If you say yes to letting a baby into your body, then you have a nine month guarantee.
		And I know it's tough because men don't face the same restrictions, but I don't see the moral argument for why a woman can choose to get pregnant and then kill the baby.
unidentified		You're almost making a squatter's rights argument based on that.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You invite someone into your house, they get tenant rights.
		And so, that's what it is.
		However, there's a lot of moral and legal questions which result in me being like, I'm kind of with Trump on this one.
		There's a compromise to be had where it's like, we minimize to the best of our ability, but we realize like, we cannot win a moral absolutist position or something.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and there's a difference between the moral beliefs and then what can be achieved politically.
		For me, I do think that life is a life, and just ask somebody who was conceived via rape if they would rather be dead.
		If it was up to the baby, they'd probably choose to be alive no matter how they were conceived.
		So morally, that's my stance.
		But if you say to me, hey, if we can get rid of all abortions except for the pregnancies that are a consequence of rape, I'm going to make that deal because that means you're eliminating 99% of abortions even if I have to morally concede that The the the rape babies that's like I'd rather get rid of 99 than just keep doing what we're doing now but the reason that that commercial is actually so effective and successful it's it's cringy to us but abortion is is one of the very rare instances where the government.
		Policy has tangible immediate effects on the citizen like even things like crime and immigration when they affect you they do so with a couple degrees of separation from the actual policy, but when you are deciding on abortion that has a direct effect on a woman's life and and the Path it takes or the choices that she makes so I understand Where Trump is coming from where it's like this is not you can't just ignore that fact you can't just you know Impose your morality on everybody else because there's women out there that feel like they're they have a right they have a right right now That is being taken away from them.
		And so there's a lot like probably the number one single issue of single issue voters is abortion and there's millions and millions of women who feel like their rights are being taken away if abortion is taken away from is no longer legal.
		So it's in the political sphere.
		You have to separate it from your moral convictions if you actually want to lower the overall number of abortions like I do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
		Was that good?
		Was that a good response, sir?
unidentified		We have.
		Yeah.
		Really good.
		Thank you.
		Can I shut out my friend's podcast real quick?
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Do it!
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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We like Fleckas, shout out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for calling in, buddy.
unidentified		Thank you, have a good night.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Have a good one.
		Oh, sorry.
		Thanks for calling in.
		And last but not least, we have the Kilted Carnivore.
		Whoa.
		Kilted Carnivore, what up?
unidentified		Hey, how's it going, guys?
		Big fan.
		Chef, reverse sear, life changer.
		So thanks for that.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Nice, thank you.
unidentified		So my question, it's kind of a two-parter.
		How long until we see armed citizens voluntarily patrolling and protecting the border?
		And at what point does the responsibility fall upon the people to fix the problem that our government...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We've already seen them. The Minutemen, I think they were called.
		They've been around for a long time.
		And my concern is what we're seeing now over these past few years,
		I'm actually surprised it hasn't gotten really, really bad already.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But maybe that's it. I mean, I don't know.
		Maybe people are trying to do this the right way.
		The Founding Fathers avoided war.
		They, to the best of their abilities, petition, petition, petition.
		And it was only when the Redcoats came to Lexington and Concord to seize their weapons that fighting broke out among farmers, which resulted in the start of the war.
		So, fuck, man, I don't know.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		See, that's the issue, is that if people actually did that, the American government would go to war with its own citizens to stop them, I think.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If, yes, if, if, if, let's say a hundred guys got together and went down to the southern border and just said, no, you're not coming in and turned them back, the US government would kill those Americans and help the illegal immigrants.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		No question. 100%.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		CBP is down there opening the gates and letting them come in.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		They're actually cutting the razor wire that's already there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep, and so if U.S.
		citizens went down there, they would have to confront federal law enforcement.
		Federal law enforcement, without question, would open fire on these men and their children if their children were with them.
		People think it's not true, and then you see what happens with the lockdowns, and you see what happens with these schools.
		Uvalde?
		Spare me, dude.
		Michael Maus is right.
		If these Border Patrol guys are on the border, letting these people in as their orders, and some dude shows up with his 14-year-old son, they will shoot that 14-year-old kid in the forehead if they think that there's a threat to their operation.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and again, it's one of the, you know, if you boil down what the purpose of government is to its most basic thing, it's to defend the border.
		So, you know, it's really not something that us citizens can do on our own.
		I mean, it's even the guy that shot illegal immigrants on his own land.
		He was protecting his own house and he got arrested and is facing murder charges.
		And so it's not a feasible path.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, man, I'm worried about that because The border stuff, it's not even about the U.S.
		borders.
		It's about an old man who had his own plot of land, and a trespasser came.
		That's it.
		If someone trespasses on your property and presents a threat to you in West Virginia, you can defend yourself with force.
		In Texas, you can defend property, like if someone's trying to steal from you.
unidentified		Especially if it's at night.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so what if you're on the southern border of Texas, Eagle Pass?
		Let's say not Eagle Pass.
		Let's say, you know, a little bit down the road.
		You got a house with property near the border and a bunch of illegal immigrants are coming onto your property.
		They're not going to be sitting there being like, oh this dang federal government is letting our country go to shit.
		They're going to be like, oh fuck, these guys are my property.
		Boys, come on over, I need help.
		And then it's going to be a shootout between these guys and migrants because the migrants are going to be on their property doing who knows what, let's say it's cartel bullshit.
		And then Border Patrol's gonna come and they will defend the illegal immigrants.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The cartels thing is the real problem for people that want to defend their property or whatever.
		Because if you, you could very easily end up, you know, you run out there with your rifle or you and your buddies run out there with a couple rifles.
		Next thing you know, you're facing down, you know, 15 dudes with fully automatic belt-fed machine guns.
unidentified		We have to assume that it's the cartel if it's, I mean, because it most likely could be.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But it's not just that, it's this, the reality right now is the videos show CBP opening the gates and saying, come on in, and counting, 1, 2, 3, okay, this is a good number.
		And these are African migrants.
		These are not South American, these are not Central American, they're not refugees.
andrew gruel ▲ ● ▼		They're not families, they're not kids, women, children, these are young men.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		With UN credit cards, by the way.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But anyway, man, I don't know if you want to elaborate a little bit.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's getting a little bit late, but I don't want to catch up too soon if you wanted to ask any more or elaborate on that.
unidentified		Yeah, the whole situation is just really brutal, and I don't know how we put a sudden stop to the whole thing without it escalating to violence.
		But as you were saying, I don't really think there's even Going that way, it's obviously not the right thing to do, and there's still not a clear-cut answer on which direction to go.
		Yeah.
		Just sucks.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's getting crazy out there, man.
		Right on, dude.
		Well, thanks for calling in, buddy!
unidentified		Well, Brom, have a good night, guys.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Have a good one, man.
unidentified		You too.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		You too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And, uh, Harrison, it's been a blast.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for hanging out.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for having me on, man.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		This has been great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		And Chef Gruel, great to see you.
		Glad to have you here.
		And just a real quick elevator pitch for everybody.
		Uh, our plan for the most part, uh, Chef Gruel's gonna help us franchise in Castbrew.
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		I don't know.
		But we're hopefully opening soon, and we enlist the help of the experts to help make that happen.
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