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Timcast IRL - Ray Epps CHARGED By DOJ, Faces ONE Misdemeanor Sparking MORE Theories w/Kevin Sorbo
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unidentified
They got him, ladies and gentlemen.
Ray Epps has finally been charged.
tim pool
With one misdemeanor count of disorderly conduct in a restricted area, so... And they're saying he's basically taking a plea deal.
I imagine he'll get a slap on the wrist.
Maybe he won't even get any jail time.
And, you know...
They did finally charge him.
And now you're getting this narrative from the media as if, like, this proves it!
You see, he's being charged, too.
But all that's really happening is all the people who already thought he was a fed now doubly think he was a fed because he's getting a slap on the wrist.
One misdemeanor charge, despite the fact he is on camera telling people to go in the Capitol.
And he is there at the breaching of the front barricades.
He told his nephew he orchestrated it.
He even explained how they're at the barricades and a female cop gets knocked over and he goes, I don't want anyone to think I'm part of this, so I'm gonna storm forward or something to that effect.
Yeah, nobody's buying it, but it's an interesting story, so we'll talk about that.
And then we got another weird story.
A Democrat... I don't even know how to say this.
Democrats gave an interview to the Washington Post.
And one of them said Joe Biden's death is imminent due to his old age.
And that's like, I have trouble even saying that, like, whoa.
Joe Biden now reportedly gave an interview where he says he fears his end may be soon as well, and he's not going to live long enough to see Hunter Biden's legal issues resolved.
Hunter Biden was about to give a plea, take a plea deal.
I mean, we're talking about Relatively soon.
That's a crazy thing to say.
And then, of course, Russell Brand is still in the news because in the most absurd and shocking story I guess we have today, YouTube demonetized Russell Brand.
For no reason.
None.
He's not done anything wrong.
He's been accused by some people.
He didn't do anything on YouTube.
Doesn't matter, apparently.
They're unpersoning him.
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Joining us to talk about this and so much more is the legendary Kevin Sorbo.
kevin sorbo
It's good to be here.
tim pool
It's great to have you.
kevin sorbo
I've been watching you, man.
This is a good show.
I love it.
I was honored to be invited, so this is cool.
tim pool
It's an honor to have you.
We were, of course, all of us here, we're just talking about all the work you've done, especially some of the huge shows you've done before the show even started.
And I feel kind of bad we didn't record it because you're talking about shooting schedules and, I mean, you've been in so much stuff most of us have seen.
And everyone, of course, is just saying Hercules, Hercules, Hercules.
kevin sorbo
Thank you, Eddie Murphy, yes.
tim pool
Yeah, that's right, that's right.
Do you want to do a quick introduction?
kevin sorbo
Me?
Yes, hi, I'm Kevin Sorbo and it's really cool to be here.
I got a lot of good stuff coming on the pipeline as well.
I got a new movie to talk about, a new book to talk about.
All good stuff.
brett dasovic
Lots of different stories about acting tonight, I hope.
I want to hear all sorts.
kevin sorbo
We'll get into it.
brett dasovic
Inside baseball.
Alright, hello guys, if you see me here.
Brett Dasovic, I am the host of Pop Culture Crisis right here on YouTube, 3 p.m.
Eastern Standard Time.
ian crossland
I'm Ian Crossland.
You've got The Test of Lionhood there behind you.
That's your newest book?
kevin sorbo
I do.
Brave Books.
I'm following in the steps of Bethany Hamilton and others like Cameron.
A lot of people have done these books.
It's kind of cool that I got my own.
It just came out this month.
ian crossland
I'm going to ask you about it on the show.
kevin sorbo
All right, sounds good.
ian crossland
We'll go into it.
Carter Banks.
carter banks
How's it going, everyone?
I'm filling in for Serge, and I'm excited for tonight, so let's get into it.
tim pool
Right on.
Let's jump into this first big story from CBS News.
Ray Epps protester at center of January 6th far-right conspiracy charged over Capitol riot.
And you see, most people are only going to see the headline, and the goal of this charge, in my opinion, It's just, it's obfuscation!
It's, you know, the average person's gonna be like, what, that guy, he was criminally charged!
Yeah, but come on, here's the story.
Ray Epps, a former Marine and Trump supporter who became the center of the January 6th conspiracy theory, has been charged in connection with the insurrection.
I like to call it that.
According to court documents filed by the Department of Justice, Epps is charged with disorderly or disruptive conduct on restricted grounds.
He's expected to appear in court Wednesday for a plea agreement.
So let's just, uh, let's just point something out.
The FBI said, Ray Epps has never been an FBI source or an FBI employee.
I always take issue with very specific answers that nobody asked, right?
Because the appropriate answer to the question of, was Ray Epps involved with law enforcement is, Ray Epps has zero involvement or interaction with anyone in law enforcement.
We don't know this guy.
Let's just make it unequivocally clear, this guy has nothing to do with us or any other agency that we know of.
Instead, it's like, he wasn't a source or an employee.
Okay, was he an informant?
Was he a contractor?
Well, come on.
Did he become an informant later on?
I mean, look.
I don't want to be too conspiratorial just because they didn't give a good enough statement or a clear enough statement, but the issue I see here is, you've got people like Owen Schroyer, who's being sentenced, he was sentenced to 60 days in prison, and the federal government cited his speech before, during, and after.
His speech, after the fact, was cause for him to go to prison.
But Ray Epps, on the day of telling people to go to the Capitol, and the night before saying to go into the Capitol, doesn't matter at all in his sentencing, to be there at the front lines, tearing down the barricades, he wasn't the one who physically did it, but the people in front of him did, he whispered in the guy's ear, he tears it down, then they rush in, and they're like, one charge.
Meanwhile, there's a journalist named Stephen Horne, I believe his name is, four charges, and he was just convicted, and will now be sentenced to prison.
So something doesn't add up.
I don't know what it is.
I'm not saying this guy is a fad or anything like that.
I'm just saying something is weird about this story.
brett dasovic
Are there different prosecutors going after these people?
Because these are all spread out over time, these convictions.
tim pool
I mean, it's been two and a half years, so there are different prosecutors and different judges.
brett dasovic
Could that play a role in here?
Is there something to do with leniency or such in sentencing for these things?
tim pool
I really doubt it.
I mean, look, you've got people who walked on the grass confused who were charged and sentenced to a month or two.
You've got John Strand, I think his name was.
Am I getting his name wrong?
Hopefully I'm not getting his name wrong.
ian crossland
Not sure.
tim pool
Three years convicted.
He was there as a security guard working for Dr. Simone Gold.
He wasn't there in any political capacity.
He was just walking around as a security guard.
And they gave him three years.
And they're going to give this guy one charge?
brett dasovic
Didn't Tarrio get like 20- He wasn't even there!
And he got like a bunch of years in prison?
kevin sorbo
This is what they do though.
I'm going to use the word a lot probably tonight, but hypocrisy is the rule of the day for these people.
And you got so much stuff on this guy.
So much stuff on him.
The video footage is undeniable.
And yet, one charge?
He's going to slap on the wrist, nothing will happen to him.
It drives me crazy what's going on in our country right now.
ian crossland
I would have thought they would have arrested him and then made it, been like, we're charging him, we're giving him 20 years, and then like, steal him out of prison in the night and send him to an island to live forever.
Like, didn't they used to do that?
They'd put people in witness protection or something if they used them for a purpose, but this...
Maybe they just feel like with internet, you can't hide people anymore, you can't track it, so let's just blatantly use this guy to incite.
This is a guess, but if he's on the floor inciting and he didn't get the book thrown at him, there's something going on and it just smells like some sort of red flag.
tim pool
Maybe the conspiracy is... Here's my issue with conspiracy theories.
Everybody just assumes they know what the outcome is, but you don't.
So the first thing is people are like, okay, something doesn't make sense here.
And then they say, okay, now I know for sure what the answer is.
Here's a conspiracy theory for you.
The feds intentionally undercharged the guy to make him the focal point of conspiracy theories, so that people aren't actually looking at who may have really been there.
There's a video from one journalist showing a guy breaking out a window, and then as soon as the guy realizes he's being filmed, immediately stops.
And then starts pushing someone else, accusing the other guy of breaking the window.
Like, hmm.
You see, that one's more interesting to me.
Ray Ebbs is on camera saying stupid things.
If he was actually an informant or fad or some kind of plant or provocateur, he would not be on camera doing these things.
And then you have other people who are on camera doing things who get scared the moment they realize they're being filmed and then stop.
kevin sorbo
That is more... Those are the ones you gotta watch.
tim pool
But I mean, look, if someone is there either as a provocateur or an intentional rioter, or maybe even insurrectionist...
They're going to be, if they're smashing out a window, they're going to stop and then act like they weren't doing anything wrong because they don't want to get in trouble, right?
Doesn't matter if you're a fed or not.
I just think it's weird that Ray Epps would just stand there while people are filming him outright saying these things.
kevin sorbo
And constantly be, but what about the woman that got shot?
That just sort of disappeared too.
She was doing nothing.
ian crossland
Ashley Babbitt?
kevin sorbo
Yeah, and she gets shot and killed and the video footage of her, she wasn't doing anything and nothing happened to the gentleman that shot her.
tim pool
I think he had a promotion.
kevin sorbo
I think he probably did.
It's like the studio chiefs in Universal.
They fail upwardly, but go ahead.
ian crossland
That she was climbing over a barricade, so threatening their space.
tim pool
She wasn't climbing over a barricade, she was looking through a window.
unidentified
Yeah, she climbed up towards a hole.
tim pool
She stood on the framing of the window, and then looked through the window, and then they put a bullet in her neck.
ian crossland
A broken window, so there's like a hole.
They probably thought she was climbing through.
I mean, I don't want to make excuses.
tim pool
She couldn't climb through it.
The window was not that big.
Her face could barely be seen through it, and they put a bullet in her neck.
There's no reason.
The cop was panicked and freaked out.
It's dangerous to have people like that holding weapons, but those are the things that happen.
brett dasovic
I didn't hear any defund the police calls after that one, surprisingly.
ian crossland
Dude, the Ray Epps thing is the most nuts.
I mean, just beyond nuts thing.
This guy's screaming for people to go to the Capitol to get rowdy.
I don't know all the quotes, but some of the stuff you mentioned earlier.
tim pool
He texted his nephew saying he orchestrated it.
ian crossland
What in the hell?
tim pool
He's like, yep.
And he even says in one of the videos, he's like, he doesn't want to say it because he'll get arrested, but he's going to say it anyway.
It's like, OK.
And then it took him two and a half years to get one misdemeanor charge.
You have people you had that lady.
I love referencing this.
The feds broke into a stormed into her house in Alaska because she looked like a different lady.
So there was a woman who was in the Capitol, they were like, hey, we think this is the person, so they break into this other lady's house.
But the guy who's on camera inciting everybody to do it, it's like, nah, no worries here, man.
brett dasovic
How long ago was he charged?
Like, initially charged?
Today.
It was just today, right?
So is it possible that he's going to end up informing?
tim pool
I think the reality here may be he's been an informant the whole time.
The whole time.
And maybe not for the FBI or something like that.
It could be Capitol Police.
And so the FBI says he's never been a source or an employee.
What does source mean?
Does source include informant?
It's an opinion statement.
So it could or could not.
They're quotes meaningless to me.
But it could have been the Capitol Police.
I wonder if it's possible because he used to be an oath keeper.
You know, originally he was on the website for, like, people of interest.
They were looking for him.
They took him off.
I wonder if they found him right away.
They found him right away.
He's on camera everywhere saying this.
They instantly were like, we got a clear picture of his face.
Then they went to him and said, you are going to inform and provide testimony on all these people that bolster our cases or you're going to go to prison forever.
And he said, I'll do whatever you say.
ian crossland
Okay, I didn't know he was an oath keeper before.
That makes a lot of sense.
kevin sorbo
Yeah.
So what about all these guys?
I mean, a little segue, but still on the same track of what happened on January 6th.
All these Antifa guys, video footage of them changing into clothes, Trump clothes.
I saw a lot of that footage.
I don't know if that's real or not.
tim pool
I've seen the footage too, but I don't know what it is.
And these are the challenges, right?
You've got the pipe bomb guy nobody found.
You've got the video of changing their clothes and putting on, you know, like they're taking off hoodies and putting on Trump's looking clothes.
brett dasovic
And there's no motivation for prosecutors to want to do anything about it because that's not the way that the political winds are blowing right now.
tim pool
The political winds don't blow that way in general.
Ever.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So there you go.
I don't know, man.
This is only resulting in more people believing that there's a conspiracy theory here, but I wonder if If you're gonna actually believe that the intelligence agencies are capable of doing anything, you have to operate under the assumption that they're going to be a little bit smarter.
It's not like a random guy just being like, I know, let's have our friend smash a window, and then we can blame other people for it, and there's gonna be a little bit more to it than that.
In which case, the Ray Epps stuff is a very, very hefty distraction.
Everybody's pointing the finger at this guy, and he's just...
As far as we can see, a doofy Trump supporter who for some reason is not getting prosecuted.
And so maybe in his mind, he's like, why is everyone coming after me?
And if there really was an intelligence operation, you've got guys, like you mentioned, changing their clothes, and everyone's just like, raps, raps, raps.
kevin sorbo
Well, there's a lot of FBI guys apparently, right?
tim pool
Yeah, I mean, it's widely reported, especially with the Proud Boys.
Like, dozens.
I don't know what the exact number is, but FBI informants up the wazoo with the Proud Boys.
kevin sorbo
I love how they blame Trump.
I mean, you saw him speaking.
He's on camera saying, go peacefully if you're going to go down there.
He didn't say anything about rioting.
And he still gets blamed for it.
brett dasovic
Doesn't matter.
kevin sorbo
They go after everything for him.
He's had seven straight years of being attacked.
It's pretty incredible to have that much hate centered on you for that long.
It's incredible.
tim pool
Yeah, dark days, man.
You look at this stuff going on.
There's this guy, Stephen Horne.
Journalist.
Objectively a journalist.
I'm not saying objective journalist.
I'm saying objectively, when you look at the facts, you're like, this is a journalist.
And I guess they got him because when he was in, he went in the Capitol filming.
And he chanted, USA, USA, USA.
Oh, now he's demonstrating.
So they got him.
ian crossland
They got him on four charges.
Yep.
Entering or remaining in a restricted area, disorderly, disruptive conduct in a restricted area, disorderly conduct in a Capitol building, parading, demonstrating, or picketing in a Capitol building.
tim pool
So to be fair, he was in the Capitol building.
And so you might say those two charges related to being inside, Ray Epps is not going to get.
But Ray Epps still only got one charge.
He didn't even get charged with entering a restricted area, despite the fact he incited everyone to go do it in the first place.
brett dasovic
It feels like that's the more serious charge, right?
Would be the incitement of others to do so.
Cause they seem to use that as their kind of barometer for where to charge, right?
It's inciting an insurrection.
So if the guy's got, if he's actually saying the orchestrated this stuff.
tim pool
They can't, they can't charge him.
You know why?
Cause Trump's the one in their minds or Trump's the one they need to have legally on the books as having orchestrated it.
brett dasovic
That's what I'm saying.
Cause like when, when they were talking about initially, like you said, when they're ignoring what his actual words were and they're saying that he incited, that's the language they kept using, right?
tim pool
This could be the reason why they don't charge him.
Or they're holding off on charging him because they know the evidence would show he not only admitted to orchestrating it in a text between a family member, but he's on camera inciting people and they need Trump to have been the guy so they can get him off the ballot.
brett dasovic
They'll just end up in the same cell together.
Him and Trump and this guy will just end up having to serve their terms.
tim pool
I don't know what they're gonna do with Trump.
You can't put him in prison, but they're not gonna let him run.
They're not gonna let him win.
brett dasovic
Do you think he ends up on the ballot?
tim pool
Trump?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, what does that mean?
What state?
Where?
brett dasovic
Which district?
Do you think he'll be removed from enough?
tim pool
Trump will be removed from, I don't know, but enough doesn't matter.
Trump, I believe it is a high probability Trump is removed from the ballot somewhere.
kevin sorbo
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, I mean, look at Arizona.
It would not surprise me if come October of next year Trump's name is just not on the ballot in Arizona.
Because we know with the Hobbes vs. Lake election, the wrong ballot sizes were printed on the wrong paper, and it jammed up the machines.
So if they can do that, and then go, whoopsie-daisy, and then nothing happens, there's no reconciliation, there's no accountability at all, Then, well, they'll take Trump's name off somewhere and just go, it was a mistake.
kevin sorbo
Have you had Carrie in your show?
tim pool
Oh, yeah, several times.
kevin sorbo
She's awesome.
tim pool
She's great.
kevin sorbo
She's great.
tim pool
And she does have a bunch of victories right now, too, so I don't want to act like nothing's happening.
They recently ruled that the signature verification in Arizona was being done illegally.
kevin sorbo
Well, it's unbelievably obvious.
We talked about this earlier.
I was driving in here with your transportation guy.
It was awesome.
We talked about the craziness of this mail-in voting.
And neither side is fighting to get rid of it.
I don't see anybody on the right getting rid of it.
tim pool
Get rid of it?
The Democrats are fighting for it.
kevin sorbo
The Democrats, I know.
But no, they want to keep it.
That's what I'm saying.
We've got to get rid of it.
The only way you're going to have an honest voting is you vote on the day of the election and that's it.
tim pool
Yep.
kevin sorbo
And you show your bloody ID.
There's nothing racist about showing an ID.
I mean, this whole thing is just, it's mind-boggling.
You got so many people, tens of millions of people in this country still let this go on.
They let it go on.
You see it right in front of your face, but they just want to vote for the same people just because they got a D by their name or something.
It's just weird.
tim pool
It's because most people don't pay attention at all.
kevin sorbo
No, they don't.
They don't.
There's sheep, and I keep saying we gotta wake up the lions.
tim pool
But this is why you were telling us before the show that they kicked you out of Hollywood because you're conservative, but this is exactly why.
I mean, you have the biggest show in the world, the last thing they need is someone as influential as you speaking to the regular people who aren't paying attention and telling them to pay attention, right?
That's dangerous.
ian crossland
What did you do?
What did you say?
kevin sorbo
I think the whole internet thing started in the mid-90s, right?
You've got mail, and it just kind of grew from there.
So I was starting to do my own thing, talking about this, talking about that.
So, oh my gosh, he's a Christian and a conservative, so apparently that's a double leper in Hollywood.
And they called me in, and they said, we can't work with you anymore.
And I laughed.
I said, you guys are the ones screaming for tolerance.
And they scream for freedom of speech, but we all know it's a one-way street with these guys.
And once again, hypocrisy rules, not only Hollywood, but in Washington, D.C.
So, I formed SorboStudios.com, and I've been doing my own movies since.
And because I do independent movies, other independent movie makers come to me as well.
Not every movie I've done, because since I got booted to Hollywood, I've shot about 50 movies.
But there's other indies that come to me and say, hey, we're with you, we stand with you.
People used to stop me all the time about Hercules and Andromeda, my two series.
80% of the time now it's God's Not Dead, Soul Surfer, What If, Let There Be Light.
That's what people stop me for now.
Please make more movies like that.
tim pool
Yeah.
brett dasovic
When this happened initially in Hollywood, where was the biggest amount of pressure coming from?
Was it coming from studio heads?
Was it coming from agents and managers?
Or was it coming from other actors?
kevin sorbo
I didn't get details like that, but it got to a point that obviously they felt they'd have talked to me about it.
So I'm thinking it was coming from studios and networks and stuff like that.
brett dasovic
So they saw it as bad publicity for them.
kevin sorbo
Yeah, I think so.
brett dasovic
Which is weird, because at that time, we're talking 12 years ago, this is still a country that would have had a general amount of pro-Christian values.
kevin sorbo
Yeah, my manager was great.
I think she just felt the pressure and went along with the big agent.
So, it's unfortunate and I kind of laughed at it.
I said, this is ridiculous.
But, you know, for an industry that's... These liberals need to look up the definition of the word liberal because the whole thing about being a liberal is that everybody's point of view is okay.
We're different.
We embrace everybody.
They don't.
We have more anger, more hatred.
All this stuff is just spreading more divisiveness and that's the world we're living in right now.
tim pool
Wokeness tends to be, right now.
They masquerade as opposing racism while supporting racial segregation.
They say liberal when they're illiberal, and they oppose liberal policies and classical liberalism.
kevin sorbo
But what's Antifa?
They say they're against fascism, they're actually the fascists.
tim pool
But here's the funny thing is, they always love, it is a fair assessment, in my opinion, if you look at Antifa through a historical context by today, by what they do today, and say they're fascists.
Antifa starts in Germany as the militant wing of the Communist Party.
And so they go, duh, we're not fascist.
But now you take a look at how they behave.
There were a group of people outside of a hospital protesting mask mandates.
Antifa activists came and started beating them up.
So it's like, okay, if you want to claim to be a communist or opposing fascism, but you beat people up to enforce government mandated corporate activities, you're a fascist.
That's exactly what they are.
kevin sorbo
I just want to stay with these mayors and these governors in these states, let them get away with it.
I don't get it at all.
Well, they have to be.
tim pool
I mean, you've had politicians say that they're Antifa.
You've had in the Andy Ngo trial.
kevin sorbo
Biden said it was an idea.
tim pool
Yeah, Nadler.
Did Biden say it too?
I know Nadler said it.
kevin sorbo
He said it in the debate with Trump.
unidentified
Wow.
kevin sorbo
He said, oh, it's an idea.
Oh, okay.
brett dasovic
Because it's decentralized, therefore you can't pinpoint a leader.
kevin sorbo
Burn down people's businesses and attack people, that's an idea.
tim pool
You can pinpoint leaders.
They have active cells with brand names and brand websites, and the feds know, and the feds don't do anything.
But hey man, heaven forbid you stepped on the grass on January 6th, and then they're going to lock you up for two years.
ian crossland
Biden's quote from that presidential debate in 2020 was, Antifa is an idea, not an organization.
So I was going to agree that Antifa... They have merch stores!
It is an idea, but it's also an organization.
Well, that's why I wanted to buy it, and you just said it wasn't.
kevin sorbo
Well, that's why I like masks, because they cover their identity.
brett dasovic
Yeah, they have chapters in merch stores.
tim pool
But the masks don't even matter.
There's different chapters, and they will call themselves Brand Antifa, you know, insert name.
And you can go to their website, and you can see the organizers.
kevin sorbo
What do they do for work?
tim pool
Oh, a lot of these kids are rich.
kevin sorbo
You think so?
tim pool
I know for a fact.
kevin sorbo
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, so especially during Occupy Wall Street, we didn't call them Antifa at the time.
They were just called the Black Block Anarchists.
And that was an unfair assessment.
The anarchists got mad at us.
They were like, those guys are not anarchists.
Anarchists don't believe in violence.
Anarchists, in the truest sense of left or right, believe in non-aggression.
So the dudes wearing all black going and beating people are tankies.
They're communists.
And we're like, oh, okay, you know, that's fair.
But we didn't call them Antifa.
Turns out a lot of these kids were, they're like Brooklynite trust fund kids.
kevin sorbo
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, they don't have to work.
kevin sorbo
So they're angry because their parents made it in the capitalist system?
tim pool
No, no, no.
They're angry because... So it's an oversimplification that I believe is an emotional attack that conservatives will be like, oh, they resent, you know, they got mommy or daddy issues.
No, the reality is they've never dealt with hardship.
So if you grow up in a world where you don't have to work, Because things are given to you?
When you're older, you look around at people being hungry, and you go, why aren't people giving them things like I was given things?
The government should give them things!
brett dasovic
Give them homes to live in.
tim pool
And this is why, you know, I really, man, I see a lot of wealthy conservatives being like, my kid's never gonna know the hardship I knew, and I'm like, okay, well they're gonna be a liberal then.
kevin sorbo
Look at Murdoch's kids, right?
Look what they're doing at Fox.
brett dasovic
And you're going to send them to the same four-year colleges that will indoctrinate them in the same way.
kevin sorbo
They start at kindergarten now, unfortunately.
tim pool
But if you're lucky enough to keep it off them until they go to college, they then go to college and they end up in the exact same place because you don't want them to face down any of the hardships you These trust fund kids, especially the wealthier ones, and not necessarily all millionaires or anything, but coming from upper middle class families even, so they didn't have to work because they lived with their parents, their attitude is, you know, we have to protect the oppressed.
It's weaponized guilt.
When they don't want to be the evil oppressor because they come from wealthy upbringing, they turn into a racial issue.
They can then say, oh yeah, you Ian, you're also an oppressor, just like me, because you're white.
And it's like, you know, you could be a homeless white dude, and they would be like, doesn't matter, we're all oppressors.
It's like, bro, your parents are millionaires.
That homeless guy is a veteran who can't find work.
And you're claiming that he's got the same level of power that you do because they're trying to cover up the fact that they're rich and they want more power.
But ultimately, what are they angry about?
When you grow up never having to work, your brain does not comprehend where food comes from.
Your brain doesn't comprehend that someone has to do labor to make it.
And so in their minds, it's just like, you take a look at schools.
A lot of these kids, they go to school from, you know, kindergarten all the way till they're 22 to 26.
And when they get out of college at 26 years old, they've never had a job and they've been told how to do everything.
Normal humans have to figure things out, but these kids are told what to do.
They get out and they're like, okay, someone please tell me what to do.
I have no idea what I'm doing.
brett dasovic
They get their first job and they find that the employers say that they can't figure things out on their own.
They need to be given step-by-step instructions because they've never actually had to kind of problem solve.
They've never problem solved anything.
tim pool
I've experienced this dozens of times in every company I've worked for.
College graduates have a higher likelihood of being unable to solve a problem as opposed to high school graduates or dropouts.
kevin sorbo
Homeschoolers are much better.
tim pool
That's true.
ian crossland
Did you homeschool?
kevin sorbo
We homeschooled.
My wife's a homeschool advocate.
She's got a number of books on.
She travels the country.
Yeah, it makes a big difference.
One of the blessings of COVID is that families woke up and saw, maybe, honey, we shouldn't use the public schools as a babysitting service, and they saw how crappy that the school system really is.
Two million more homes are now homeschooling, which is great.
tim pool
And school choice is picking up.
I know there's some pushback from some anti-woke personalities, but I think school choice For the most part, it's a good idea.
ian crossland
On its face, it looks cool that you could take a stipend every year instead of send them to where you have to send them.
You get to pick where you want to send them.
tim pool
Great competition.
kevin sorbo
Get it out of government's hands, but that will create the competition.
That should help a little bit, but public school system is busted and broken, and it's getting worse, and people don't seem to want to care, and parents want to keep using it as a babysitting service, which is too bad.
ian crossland
Well, you've made a good point that people are waking up.
COVID shocked so many people talking about this.
kevin sorbo
Well, look what they did to these kids, you know?
I mean, look at the businesses.
It was nuts.
brett dasovic
I was arguing with someone.
I never get into political arguments online.
It's like the last thing I do.
I was arguing with someone saying that there should be cameras in every classroom.
kevin sorbo
I've said the same thing.
brett dasovic
A hundred times, right?
kevin sorbo
Why can't there be?
brett dasovic
And people are saying, especially pro-teachers union people, saying that's not necessary.
Why would that be necessary?
I'm like, do you think cops should have to wear body cameras?
The cops didn't think that they should have to wear body cameras either.
kevin sorbo
Figures.
Cameras in casinos or cameras in elevators.
Why can't they be in a school?
What are they hiding that we can't watch as parents?
brett dasovic
I mean, not even just that, but beyond just what they're hiding.
kevin sorbo
I'm on camera all the time.
brett dasovic
The level of what they're teaching the kids, right?
Do the parents have a right to know at what pace their classrooms are working?
Not just because they might be teaching them things that are not, that is inappropriate for their age, but also like, are the teachers keeping them up to date?
Are the classrooms actually handled well?
And those are all questions, but they don't want to actually be held accountable for that.
tim pool
Yeah, well, it was when the remote learning started that these teachers, there was a video where they were saying, we can't let parents find out what we're doing.
They know what they're doing is crooked, evil.
kevin sorbo
Of course they do.
Right now I just realized that Apple's watching.
tim pool
The crazy thing is, somebody was talking about how The iPhone does this.
I don't know if this is true.
Just a caveat here.
Because I haven't looked it up.
But... Well, let me pause.
I had a phone.
It was... I forgot what the phone was called.
I think it was like the McLaren something.
It was like a OnePhone.
And it had a mechanical front-facing camera.
In order to turn the front-facing camera on, it would slide up from the top of the phone.
kevin sorbo
Okay.
tim pool
So one day, while browsing the web, it just opens up and then goes back down.
And I'm like, why did this website just activate my front-facing camera and then deactivate my front-facing camera?
Now on most phones, you can't tell because the front-facing camera is just always there staring at you.
But various websites, so what someone was saying is that iPhones, for instance, when you're using their apps, will
take a picture of your face to see your reaction, whether you're happy, sad, upset, what's your emotional
state, because the AI can track your facial expressions.
So when you're using apps, it's reading your face to see how you're doing.
unidentified
one.
tim pool
Welcome to the Brave New World.
kevin sorbo
Yeah, I got buddies who swear that all of our TV sets have cameras in them.
They're watching us in our living rooms, in our bedrooms.
tim pool
I don't know if they have cameras.
They have microphones.
And the microphones are all recording you 24-7.
That's a fact.
So, for instance, we have a TV downstairs that can be turned on.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, so, first caveat.
Not all TVs, but all modern TVs that have voice command are recording you 24-7.
Because here's how it works.
And this is true of all your at-home devices, and to a certain degree, I believe, many of your phones.
If your electronic device has voice command, that means the microphone has to be listening to you all the time, so that when you speak the command, it turns on.
Now, how does it translate your speech into a command?
It records what you say, sends it to a private company, who then transcribes it to text, sends the text code back to the app, the app then runs the code, the speech, as the action.
That means, and not every single device, but most devices that have voice activation do it this way.
Some do it by requiring you to say a phrase three to five times, and then it just uses the wavelength to try and match them.
We don't really do that anymore.
Nowadays, yeah, they're just all on, all the time, recording everything you say.
And for your at-home device that does all the little deeds for you, there have been numerous stories where Murders have taken place and the police have gotten recordings of the murder from the company who owned the device.
And then they said, oh, you know, they don't normally record.
It was a fluke here.
brett dasovic
What about the smart home?
The guy who lived in the smart home who said something racist and then it got, like, got locked out of his Amazon account or something like that.
Do you remember that?
tim pool
Something like that.
unidentified
I don't know.
brett dasovic
Something along those lines.
But, you know, I think what it is, is that eventually we became essentially surrounded by technology and people just acquiesce.
kevin sorbo
This is worse than 1984.
Yes.
Like, people just accepted.
brett dasovic
And people have just accepted, like, look, I cannot live without this technology anymore.
The world doesn't allow it.
I have to have these apps.
I have to have this phone.
I have to have this computer.
And the technology is just too important to your daily life now.
You can't opt out.
Not in any reasonable way.
ian crossland
What makes it better than 1984 is the internet.
Because in that book, they were all top down.
The news media would tell them over the TV, at least we can see that we're in something like 1984 and we're all able to talk about it.
tim pool
And it may have been worse before the internet.
Let's, uh, we were talking about, um, getting counts from Hollywood.
Let's talk about this story from NBC News.
YouTube suspends Russell Brand from making money off his channel.
The BBC also pulled some of the British star's shows from its streaming services following rape and sexual assault allegations against the comedian, which I might add are 20 to, uh, 10 to 20 years old.
He's developed into a wellness and conspiracy influencer.
This is... I mean, this is it right here.
This is the hammer in the nail.
The final nail.
You've got people, the media, saying all these people are conspiracy theorists.
For thinking there's an agenda against Russell Brand.
Okay.
You wanna make the argument that the BBC Channel 4, these networks were like, look, we don't know whatever it is, you're involved with Russell Brand, so we're gonna take your shows down.
It's our network, it's our channel, we're taking your shows down.
It's like, okay, that's shady.
YouTube suspending monetization from Russell Brand's channel makes literally no sense.
They didn't suspend his content, they didn't ban his channel, they just disabled ads from his channel, and his channel Doesn't break any of the advertiser rules.
So for what reason did YouTube take his money away?
This just reeks, and this is another... I mean, this is it.
This says outright the likelihood here is that there is an agenda to cripple or deperson Russell Brand.
kevin sorbo
There's no question and once again we're now living in a world that is we are guilty before being proven innocent when it used to be the other way around.
People can say anything about anybody now and they're going back what I heard 17 years on him right now then where was this person 17 years ago?
Why are we waiting so long to hear what these people have to say and why do they have any What do they have any room to stand on when they wait that long?
It's ridiculous.
tim pool
It's crazy to hear these stories because it's like, what evidence does anybody have 20 years later?
A thing I say.
kevin sorbo
Well look what they did to Kavanaugh.
tim pool
Right.
kevin sorbo
You know, trying to put him on the Supreme Court.
brett dasovic
There's already the text messages, the wonky looking text message that's very clearly doctored from Russell Brand.
The lines don't add up, the texts are in different shades, it's all sorts of… not exactly… you don't buy it, right?
Did you look at that?
Okay, so there's a text message in which he apologizes to the woman and if you look at it, it's missing timestamps, half the text is in bold, half the text is not.
It doesn't align on the left and the right. It's off angle.
It doesn't say iMessage rather than text message. There's all sorts of problems with it, but it
goes beyond that now, right?
Yesterday was about guilt or innocence, and in Me Too cases, you just don't know.
At the end of the day, you're going to have to take your...
On what side do you fall and then say, look, look, I'm never going to know the answer to this.
It's going to be, he said, she said, so what do you do now?
We have to ask the question.
It's no longer about guilt or innocence that will be decided in the court of public opinion.
Now, now it's looking like the, the government is looking into possibly charging them.
Who knows?
Now it's about what's the fallout.
Is the timing suspicious?
The timing is absolutely suspicious.
He has 6 million followers, 6 million subscribers on YouTube, and he speaks out a lot against, Tim, you mentioned Ukraine and war.
He's also very much against Big Pharma.
And in election cycles that are decided by a few hundred thousand votes, a guy with six million subscribers who reaches a lot of people has a lot of pull.
So when people say, like, it sounds conspiratorial that they would try to take this guy out, I say, no, it doesn't.
Like, do I buy it?
No, I don't know for sure.
But I know that the government, especially our government, has done a lot worse for a lot less.
tim pool
Well, so here's the issue with your text message thing.
At this point, all of the media outlets that are covering the story have already created their own graphics of those texts, so you can't, I can't look, I can't find what you're talking about.
ian crossland
There's something about this text that someone pointed out, a lawyer, I think it was.
And we can look at this text and read through this text as you want.
The last thing she writes to him is that she prides herself, she used the wrong word, but on being safe and trying to make the right decisions.
Obviously this was a bad one.
So she's acknowledging that she made the decision to do what she did.
Which, a lawyer said, that kind of indicates that it wasn't rape.
brett dasovic
But it's beyond the language.
It's about the fact that it looks doctored.
tim pool
But even that way, they're not even talking about anything specific.
For all we know, he could be talking about, he had her, he was screaming and ranting about how he was going to eat 27 milkshakes, and then he had to apologize to her because he was like, oh, I'm so sorry I behaved that way, and she's like, you freaked me out last night, that was inappropriate.
ian crossland
I think she got a rape kit, this girl, the next day, that same day.
brett dasovic
Yeah, she went to a rape crisis center.
She had a kit done.
She did not choose to press charges back then.
Now they're saying that all of the women that have come forward, one actually is named.
So out of five women, one actually gave her name.
And they talk a lot in the segment, they talk about the bravery of these women.
I said, the woman who gave her name is brave.
The woman who actually comes forward and puts herself in the public eye is brave.
The rest of this is like, look, we still live in a country that operates under the premise of innocence until proven guilty, but they don't need to do that anymore.
Especially with figures who go against the narrative that they want to push.
They can kill you in the court of public opinion.
They can.
kevin sorbo
Well, you gotta wonder if they'd be doing this if he was on the other side politically, with all six of my followers.
tim pool
Clearly not.
kevin sorbo
Of course, no question.
brett dasovic
Mike Tyson, I know a lot of people like Mike Tyson, he has an actual rape conviction.
He is not demonetized on YouTube.
Colleen Ballinger, who is a kid's YouTuber, who has very, very serious grooming allegations against her, is not demonetized on YouTube.
There's all sorts of YouTubers with Very, very serious claims made against them that haven't had their channels demonetized.
Because that shouldn't get you demonetized.
It has to be something that is done in the court of law.
And it's third-party, it's off-app behavior anyways.
They don't really have a leg to stand on.
tim pool
Luke pointed out Cardi B. Didn't she admit to raping guys?
brett dasovic
No, she drugged and robbed men who paid her for sex.
And then a lot of people have a hard time with that one because they're like, look, these guys are suckers.
They set themselves up for that.
I'm like, that doesn't matter.
There was still something done against them.
tim pool
It's like, but the point is... Wait, Carly B was a hooker?
brett dasovic
Yes, she was a stripper and a lady of the night.
Yes, a lady of the night.
We'll say that.
Uh, and there's just in an industry, in an industry that loves to promote horrible behavior.
Here's another thing.
There's a, there's a show, this was a, everything about Russell Brand is coming out on channel four right now.
There's a show called naked education on channel four that runs right now in which adults stand naked in front of children.
So that they can help de-stigmatize different body types.
Am I supposed to buy that Channel 4 who runs that show is the bastion of good consciousness?
I don't think so.
And it's insane.
Nobody deserves to be lectured by these scumbags.
kevin sorbo
Well, this is like January 6th.
It's all selective attacks.
They just decide who they want to choose and when they want to choose, and if they're hurting us, we're going to take them down.
When I say us, you're talking about government, you're talking about pharma companies, you're talking about whatever it may be that is going to be against the agenda of what the left wants.
brett dasovic
And when you mention hypocrisy, it's exactly right.
They don't care if they're hypocritical.
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No.
brett dasovic
That doesn't matter to them.
kevin sorbo
They're blatant about it.
brett dasovic
There's no truth but power.
kevin sorbo
There's a great video and I'm sure you've seen this.
It's gotta be like three or four years ago when Nancy Pelosi's up there in front of the press and said, we create a smear and we tell you about it, the press, and then you take it and you make it real for us.
Have you seen this video?
It's unbelievable.
It's like four years ago.
It's up there.
You can find it.
She openly admits that they'll lie and let the press, you guys, our favorite left-wing press, you guys will go out there and make this person's life miserable.
ian crossland
It's the presumption of innocence is very sad key.
Yeah, it's really a centerpiece of what allows us to exist as a society is acknowledging that we're all innocent until we can somehow get a group of peers together to to find proof otherwise, but that doesn't mean that corporations don't have immense power and control over your finances.
brett dasovic
Well, and with cases like this, it plays on our, you know, our imminent desire to protect other people, right?
So it's very, very hard to come out and say to someone like, look, I can't take your word for it on something like this.
And this was what happened.
Look, there is also, to your point, Danny Masterson, who was just convicted, there was no benefit of the doubt given to him because he's part of the mainstream and he's a Scientologist, so he has that working against him.
So people are saying, you know, lock him up, throw away the key with something like that.
Now we have Russell Brand and you have to wonder why is he being targeted?
Danny Masterson is different.
This is this case.
It's like they don't really seem to care who they go after in these cases.
And people get caught in the middle, but I think for brand, it's absolutely politically, at least now with the, like I was on the fence yesterday with the YouTube demonetization, his show's getting canceled.
Now all his standups have been put on indefinite hold.
His book deal has been put on indefinite hold.
It feels extremely coordinated.
kevin sorbo
Agreed.
Seriously, it's what we're doing in this country right now, and they're going after people for no reason whatsoever.
And it's a power trip, it's a power gain.
This country's socialist now, and they want to keep working down that wrong road.
tim pool
I think the funny thing about this is, you know, when you look at the story and the allegations made against Russell Brand, it's like, okay, you know, let's say these accusations are correct, whatever.
They didn't care.
At all.
Back then.
Because he was on their team.
kevin sorbo
True.
tim pool
And now that he's anti-establishment, anti-war, it's like, what do we got, 20 years ago?
Fire away.
kevin sorbo
Well, look how long it took to get Harvey Weinstein, right?
tim pool
Yeah, they protected him.
kevin sorbo
They all knew it.
Oprah was protecting him.
All kinds of bad news was going on.
tim pool
Seth MacFarlane made jokes about it, and I think it was Courtney Love, too, right?
brett dasovic
Courtney Love said, don't... No, she wasn't making jokes.
tim pool
She was actually giving you advice.
brett dasovic
She's like, don't go into a hotel room with Harvey Weinstein.
tim pool
Right, they all knew.
They all knew.
They did nothing.
Why?
Because it's beneficial for them.
A lot of these women knowingly went with him too, knowing that they were like, this is a path to power and fame.
brett dasovic
There have also been like, there have been women that are coming out and saying like, I've had no bad experiences with Russell Brand.
And then people are like, well, what does that matter?
Because these accusations say he doesn't like, exactly.
That does not hold any more weight than that.
In this, in this case, outside of the fact that you can't prove in a court of law that any of this happened, what is a general person supposed to do in this other than say, I don't know, maybe, maybe not.
tim pool
And YouTube should not... I think Russell Brand should sue Google for breach of contract or something.
People need to understand that the agreements that you have when you sign up for one of these services is a mutual contract.
They tend to be, of course, obviously very favorable to the corporation because it's not like you get it redlined and send it back or anything like that.
Russell Brand's got a monetary deal with YouTube.
He produces, they run ads, they split the money in a certain percentage.
If YouTube is going to arbitrarily shut his channel down when he broke no rules, I'm not a lawyer, but I think that there is a claim here.
Because YouTube is going to have to justify in court that for no reason at all, or actually this is different, these contracts always say we can terminate your account for no reason.
And there's questions in certain states or wherever in the United States whether or not that matters.
Especially when YouTube is now saying they suspended Russell Brand because of the allegations.
When they said offline behavior.
Now they've given a reason.
Now Russell Brand can cite that reason as a potential violation of the contract.
brett dasovic
And this has been going on beyond just YouTube.
I mean, Patreon has been doing this to people for years, uh, kicking them off the platform because of off, uh, you know, off-brand behavior and stuff like that.
tim pool
Off-platform behavior.
brett dasovic
Off-platform behavior.
But also like, not just that, but like we had videos.
So me, uh, Andy Senior had videos that were all demonetized or at least limited ad revenue, just talking about it.
And there was nothing in the language in any of our titles, nothing in any of our thumbnails that would have triggered anything like that.
And that's a problem when they're, But clearly, if you look up anything to do with Russell Brand now on YouTube, now maybe it's different now, but as of four hours ago, before we went live, I saw you covered it this morning, right?
And that by the time we went live, your video had 88,000 views at that time, right?
And the nearest one that I saw in the top five to six search results on YouTube was about 44,000.
I think that was from the USA Today or something like that.
But that was from yesterday.
Now every single one on the entire first page of search results were all what they call authoritative news sources so you're only getting one side of the story anyways.
tim pool
My video on the Russell Brand story got, as of this morning, 310,000 views.
brett dasovic
I'm just talking about your demonetized one.
I'm just talking about the one from this morning.
It's not demonetized.
the one talking about his demonstration. That one had more views than the highest viewed of any of
the mainstream news sources on that first page, nowhere to be seen because they want to be able
to control who sees what and who gets what information. And for people who are listening,
tim pool
and I'll tell you, I think if YouTube had their way, this show would not exist.
But the thing that YouTube does is suppression and removal from the algorithm.
And the problem that they're facing is people choose to watch this show knowingly.
Which means for a lot of people who produce content, it's the front page recommendation where people will find the content.
And that's true for a lot of the clips we produce on this show.
And the clips we produce, viewership is lower than it used to be.
Because they have been suppressing us.
And we get a lot of people who message us saying like, the live show didn't appear today, I had to type it in and find it.
And I'm like, that's right.
But it's really hard.
So they try to be careful because they don't want to do outright no reason bans of big content because it creates a PR storm and potential legal issues.
So they go for the suppression route and hope that you eventually fade into obscurity and then cease to exist.
kevin sorbo
Sure.
That's what Facebook did to me.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
But if people watching this show share the URL And then, through text messages, through acts, through whatever, YouTube can remove it from the front page.
Sometimes people tell us, they'll go to YouTube.com slash TimCastIRL and it doesn't even appear on the channel page.
brett dasovic
Oh my gosh.
We'll have people who say it's not even on the live tab.
kevin sorbo
Do you ever contact them and say, what are you guys doing?
Why is this happening?
tim pool
They say, oops!
Whoops!
Oopsie-daisy.
kevin sorbo
Well, that's Hollywood creative accounting as well.
You'll find there, you know, if you make a back-end deal in Hollywood, that means you're pretty much going to take it in the back-end.
Everything they can not to pay you.
And they even coined the term creative accounting.
If you listen to anybody in these studios, they're going to say any show didn't make any money.
They're just going to say it until you come after them.
tim pool
Movies are all bankrupt.
kevin sorbo
We didn't make any money, but we just keep making movies out of the goodness of our heart.
But it's just amazing.
But for YouTube to take him down and stop him from making money on it, to me already says, oh he's guilty.
And that's what's going on right now.
We're saying people are guilty before they do it.
And Hollywood's going to keep doing that.
I loved it when Ricky Gervais got up.
Was it the Golden Globes he hosted like four years in a row?
He even said to Hollywood, he goes, if the Taliban had a film fund, you'd be the first people to sign up.
Because that's what they do.
brett dasovic
He also, I guess it is fair to point out that he's not banned from YouTube, he's just demonetized, which is just to disincentivize him from using it, but hopefully Rumble will get something out of this.
tim pool
Demonetizing reduces your viewership in the algorithm, so this has long been the case.
I don't know, I can't speak to what YouTube's algorithm is definitively, I don't know, but it has long been the case that many of the research scientists who use YouTube, and a lot of these, there are a lot of people who try and track and figure out how YouTube works, If you are not running ads in your content, YouTube is less likely to show your content.
unidentified
Duh.
tim pool
YouTube's gonna be like, hey, if you don't put ads in your content, we don't make money from it.
It costs us money, so we're not gonna show it.
So if they demonetize Brand, they're likely gonna stop showing his videos in the recommended feed or whatever, but like they were for the most part anyway.
And this is the issue with a potential agenda against Russell Brand.
He's too famous.
What does he have, 12 million followers or whatever on Next?
He's got 6 million on YouTube, and he's anti-Ukraine war?
A lot of people think they're going after Russell Brand because of the COVID video where he talks about big pharma, and I'm like, look man, you go after a big corporation, they smear you.
You go after the government by saying no war in Ukraine, and the intelligence agencies has, what did, was it Biden who said this?
Who said this, was it Schumer?
They got six waves from Sunday to deal with people like you or something like that?
kevin sorbo
Sounds like a Schumer thing.
tim pool
Yeah, they're talking about Trump.
So, you know, I'd imagine this has more to do with the fact that a high-profile celebrity is generating massive opposition to their war effort in Ukraine.
brett dasovic
And right in time for the election next year.
kevin sorbo
It's interesting, isn't it?
tim pool
One year out, remember when they got rid of Alex Jones?
They got rid of Alex Jones and Paul Joseph Watson and Milo and Laura Loomer?
brett dasovic
That's the crazy thing.
When we were talking about this earlier, we were getting everything ready.
I'm like, who are the people that were banned?
Everybody remembers Alex Jones.
And it's like, this is the point.
We couldn't remember him.
I couldn't remember Paul Joseph Watson.
Didn't come to my mind because if they get you out of the algorithm, if they get you off the platforms, you're essentially non-existent now.
People will forget that you exist because you're not being seen on a daily basis.
tim pool
I wonder how much time we got left here at Tim Cast IRL.
I mean, come on, in 2020, we were getting like a million plus hits per night.
And I think that probably made us one of the biggest podcasts in the world.
I mean, during the election cycle, specifically in these like two months, I think we had something like 180 million views per month, some ridiculous number.
Now it's like 60.
So like still really good.
kevin sorbo
Really good.
tim pool
And as we're entering 2024, it's likely that we're going to get massive viewership again because we are the, like, you know, for whatever reason, people like you guys listening, you like watching the show, I imagine that they're gonna, look, they got, they go with the biggest voices first.
kevin sorbo
Oh, they're watching you, that's for sure.
tim pool
Absolutely.
brett dasovic
Suddenly a bunch of abused chickens are just gonna come out of the woodwork and we're gonna have to deal with allegations in the company.
ian crossland
I don't know.
tim pool
I think it would just be like what they do with Crowder, right?
So there's nothing to come out against Crowder with.
Like, oh, he's getting a divorce.
They try and smear him over that stuff.
There's nothing really there other than some personal issues.
So what they do is they give him a strike from a video 15 months ago.
And then, oh, now you can't stream for a week.
And they're just basically erasing his content very, very slowly.
If they were to ban Crowder outright, they'd make a huge splash, which would cause PR problems.
brett dasovic
Death by a thousand cuts.
tim pool
Exactly.
Slowly, slowly over time they will seek to remove people.
ian crossland
I think that that may be considered a human rights violation in the future for a corporation to strip you of your bank account access or for a company to strip you of your monetization.
tim pool
I think it should be considered a human rights violation right now, but I imagine that the direction we are going in this culture war is that they're going to keep doing it and it won't be a violation.
ian crossland
That it could lead towards that and then there's some sort of devolvement and dissolution of the human species and that we have a third world war and then from the ashes we create something where we're like, we cannot make that mistake again.
It might go that route.
unidentified
Yes.
ian crossland
Or it might go the route that we integrate a digital human rights bill.
tim pool
Well let's jump to this story from the Daily Mail.
Biden, 80, is worried he might die before his son Hunter's legal issues are resolved and think they will get worse, report claims.
The first thing I want to add to this story is Hunter Biden was about to agree to a plea over these charges, which would resolve his legal issues like, you know, right now.
Okay, but to be fair, maybe what Joe is saying is that he knows there's more to come.
Well, at any rate, we have this story from the Washington Post.
Anxiety ripples through the Democratic Party over Biden.
Uh, this, I'm just gonna, I'm gonna read it for you.
Quote, he is in a period of, period of his life.
Oh, wait, wait, for dramatic effect, I'm gonna start over.
He is in a period of his life where passing and death is imminent, said, said Sharon Sueda, the leader of the Democratic Party in Lorain County in Ohio.
Who said she often hears from voters worried about the president's potential frailty.
We are all in a ticking clock.
But when you're at his age, or at Trump's age, that clock is ticking a little faster.
And that's a concern for voters.
Quite literally.
Biden has expressed concern he's going to die at some point soon.
And I mean, he's past the average life expectancy.
And a Democrat in Ohio outright said that his death is imminent.
And this is based on his old age.
I don't know, man.
Does Biden make it to November?
Does he drop out or does he drop out?
ian crossland
Dude, as I'm watching and listening to this Destiny video I mentioned last night where he's learning all about the Burisma stuff, Hunter leaving his laptop at that repair shop and forgetting about it and then them seizing the laptop and then basically leaking the emails and all these emails between Hunter Biden and Burisma come out.
It exposes Joe Biden's role in basically I don't know the right exact words to use.
tim pool
The first story was Biden said, I've never talked to my son about business.
I don't know his people and all that stuff.
And now not only does he talk to his son about business, there are recordings of it.
There's emails, there's texts.
Hunter says, my dad takes money from me.
You've got, you've got Devin Archer saying that this is what they were doing.
They were signing in with Sotoban Bielinski was saying that this is it.
This is the Biden business.
ian crossland
It all came out, man, and they were not expecting that.
I think Biden, the stress is crushing his brain.
I remember, what's his name, Reagan had Alzheimer's all of a sudden, and they were like, was he hiding something?
Were there secrets that he didn't want to tell about something?
They were like, I don't remember.
They were like, do you remember what that was?
There was something they asked him if he did something, and he was like, I can't remember because of Alzheimer's, and that was convenient.
kevin sorbo
He was hitting his last couple of years as president.
There's no question about that.
But Joe's already there.
Joe's been there since he won the presidency.
I'm sure during the debates they just jacked him up with B-12 just to get him on stage.
carter banks
That's what I was thinking.
I could not believe when I saw him actually come out, like, talking.
kevin sorbo
Yeah.
ian crossland
The amount of, like, this guy, the amount of corruption that, I don't know if it was Obama that put Biden as point man in Ukraine, and then Biden decided, I'm going to bribe the guy.
Oh, really?
You're going to do some class A felony to bribe this corrupt government?
kevin sorbo
It's on tape.
ian crossland
And then he admits to doing the bribe?
kevin sorbo
The quid pro quo?
Does anybody really believe he has no idea about his son's business dealings?
I mean, the ridiculousness of that alone.
There's a list of all these lies he's said.
Apparently he fought in World War I as well, but I don't know.
It's just weird what he gets away with.
tim pool
Joe Biden claimed, and you're not going to believe this lie, that he's been serving the United States government for 800 years.
Yeah, he was joking, but the thing they do is Trump will say something that's obviously not true or it's hyperbolic or a joke, and they'll say it was a lie instead.
kevin sorbo
Of course.
tim pool
That's the game, but the question here is, if Democrats are worried about the life of Joe Biden, and Joe Biden is worried about the life of Joe Biden, Should we as the American people be concerned about the health of our president and whether or not he will remain our president over the short future?
kevin sorbo
Because everyone wants Kamala to take over.
Because remember when she was running against the other 12 people during the Democrat primary, she was the first to boot it off.
So 98% of Democrats didn't want her for president.
tim pool
That's crazy that they chose her.
You know what I think?
kevin sorbo
Hey, they put a woman in the Supreme Court that can't define what a woman is.
tim pool
That's crazy.
kevin sorbo
That's perfect.
tim pool
One theory is that they were going to run, they wanted to run literally anyone.
The article from I think it was the Atlantic is, stay alive Joe Biden, all we need is your corporeal form.
And it's because people wanted to vote against Donald Trump.
So I'm wondering if their attitudes were like, let's pick the worst candidates imaginable and then make the election only about Donald Trump.
And so it was an anti-election.
ian crossland
But the Burisma stuff, I don't think they knew.
I think Hunter went in there and took that job on the board without Joe knowing.
Because Hunter is such a piece of trash.
I don't, I, no way. He went over there with Devin Archer and they, so then the president of Ukraine,
they were like, let's do a deal and they're like not interested, go to Poland and do a
deal with the president of Poland. So they go there, president of Poland's like, Devin,
you should go back to Ukraine, join the, join the board of Burisma. Devin's like, that's a
good idea. So they go back, Hunter and Devin go back to Ukraine. They go to Burisma, they go to
Zlochevsky and they're like, hey, let's, I want to join the board.
And he's like, interesting idea.
Actually, we want you on the board, Hunter.
Some guy that he said is stupider than his dog.
Zlochevsky said that Hunter is stupider than his dog, but he put him on the board of his oil company, the board of directors, to use him for access to his dad.
tim pool
You need to read Biden, Inc.
Politico Magazine, 2019.
Biden knew what Hunter was doing.
ian crossland
He knew about the board.
I wonder if he knew about the board deal.
tim pool
He knew everything that Hunter was doing.
Read the story, Biden Inc.
It talks about 2011, with the Biden family fortunes tracking alongside Joe Biden's career.
The 10% for the big guy stuff goes way earlier than just 2014 in Burisma.
ian crossland
Yeah, but I wonder if Hunter stupidly took this job.
tim pool
That makes no sense.
Hunter's an idiot.
No, it makes no sense that Joe Biden is enriching his family and then all of a sudden one day, even though he's the point guy on Ukraine, his son Randomly just goes there.
ian crossland
It was supposed to be Devin.
Devin was supposed to be the board guy.
And then they asked Hunter to do it, and Hunter's like, yeah, definitely, yeah.
And they're like, what the hell?
Now the vice president's son's on the board?
That's not what we intended.
tim pool
That's an excuse to protect the Bidens.
ian crossland
I'm just trying to think about it.
It could just be that Joe orchestrated it.
I don't know.
But either way, Hunter's an idiot, and he did a stupid thing by joining that board.
tim pool
When Joe Biden is put in charge of these key projects and then his family starts getting enriched off of ancillary contracts related to these projects or government issues, I don't think it's a coincidence to say that the Bidens were doing this for a long period of time and the one time it was an accident was Burisma.
It makes no sense.
ian crossland
I wouldn't call it an accident.
I just don't know.
tim pool
Occam's Razor suggests that if the Bidens are peddling influence, well before 2014, the Burisma deal was part of that influence peddling.
That's it.
Biden was the point guy on Ukraine.
He said he was.
In the CFR meeting, he says, I get the tough assignments, so they send me to Ukraine.
All of a sudden, Hunter Biden's on the board?
Yeah, 10% for the big guy.
He knows.
Look at this.
Biden, Inc.
Political Magazine talks about how his brother gets lucrative contracts as soon as Joe Biden's put in charge of Iraq.
So then he gets put in charge of Ukraine, Hunter Biden appears on the board of this energy company.
Surprise, surprise.
Devin Archer testifies that when the prosecutor is investigating, Hunter Biden calls D.C.
asking for help, Biden then flies out within the immediate- I think it was a few days- Two weeks later.
Two weeks later!
ian crossland
He makes an email two days later, and then like two weeks after that he flies out there.
tim pool
Two weeks after that he flies out and says, fire this prosecutor.
That's not a coincidence.
Biden didn't do this on accident.
Hunter wasn't accidentally there.
They know exactly what they're doing.
ian crossland
I think it's November 22nd of 2015 is when Biden flew out there.
tim pool
I thought it was February.
ian crossland
I don't want to get the dates wrong here.
I'll reference Destiny's video again at the end of the video, all the data's in it.
tim pool
So they're not Hunter's legal issues, they're Biden's legal issues.
They're Joe's legal issues.
ian crossland
I mean, it's both of them, man.
If they did that, if they colluded together to sell us out to a Ukrainian oil, a corrupt Ukrainian oil company and set us up for World War III, like, those guys are... I'll let the public and the courts decide.
tim pool
No honest person who knows the story and the facts would tell you that Joe Biden is innocent.
Because there is no circumstance, I mean, we're talking like,
the likelihood that all of these things happen as Joe Biden describes them, despite all of his lies so far on it,
it's just, buy 10 lottery tickets, buy a lottery ticket for every different major lottery game and win all of them,
good luck.
ian crossland
I got the feeling that Obama was like, Joe, you're taking Ukraine, you're the point man, and Joe's like,
I'm gonna go fight those Soviets, I'm going out there.
I'm going to protect us from the Soviets.
And this whole thing's been like, yo bro, the communists are in our country, Joe.
They're not over there.
The communists are gone from Russia.
tim pool
Bro, stop defending Joe Biden.
ian crossland
I'm trying to understand Joe Biden.
tim pool
I'm not defending the guy.
The idea that Joe Biden was like, I'm going to go to Ukraine to do something good to help America is an insane view to have based on all the facts that we already have.
Look at this story.
Politico reports this in 2019, over as decades in office, middle class Joe's family fortunes have closely tracked his political career.
They have this really amazing video, breaking it all down, where they actually show, if it even loads, paradigm fraud.
Let me see if I can jump to one of these images.
It shows a timeline, and this is Politico.
Politico is not a right-wing publication.
You guys should watch this.
Actually, yeah, this works.
It's not letting me scroll.
They talk about- let me see if I can pull up, uh...
If we talk about Iraq.
During Obama year, several months after James joined a construction firm as executive, the firm received a contract worth more than a billion dollars to build houses in Iraq while Joe oversaw the U.S.-led occupation of that country.
Along the way, James partnered with his nephew, Hunter, the younger of Joe's two sons, a graduate of Georgetown, Yale, blah, blah, blah, blah, struggled with substance abuse, etc., etc., etc.
They've been documenting this.
This has long been documented.
We know this is the case.
The idea that well before Ukraine, we're talking Iraq, we're talking 2011, The idea that his brother's getting his lucrative contracts, and that Joe is overseeing the government operations, and his brother's now getting the corporate capitalist contracts, that when it came to Ukraine, it's the one time Joe Biden was like, I'm gonna go do good to fight Soviets.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
He was like, what's my assignment, Barack?
And Barack's like, take care of Ukraine.
And he goes, alright.
Hey, Devin and Hunter, how can we make money off this?
I'm in charge now.
I'm the boss.
There you go.
That's the Biden family for you.
ian crossland
I believe that they did do that.
Whether Joe instigated it or Hunter instigated it, I don't know.
But I think, you know they say that evil people think they're doing good?
I think that he's justifying, like he's actually fighting the communists somehow.
unidentified
No way, dude.
ian crossland
Protecting us from the Soviets.
tim pool
Because he's old school, dude.
You're talking about the distinction between lawful good and, I'm sorry, lawful evil and chaotic evil.
Joe Biden is chaotic evil.
He does, or maybe neutral evil.
Or, actually no, that's completely wrong.
You've got the people who, lawful, man, how do you break this down?
Lawful good could be evil.
Following the law to be good, or I guess you'd call that lawful evil.
ian crossland
Zealous paladins, man, they're dangerous.
tim pool
Right.
ian crossland
They have to do good no matter what.
tim pool
That's not Joe Biden.
Joe Biden's the guy who's like, I'm doing good for my family, nothing else matters.
So you can argue that he thinks he's doing good by enriching his family, because that's all this world is.
I talked about this earlier today when I was doing a video on Russell Brand.
You have these videos, there's a video that went viral of a hyena eating a wildebeest or something alive.
They're disemboweling it as it struggles to get up.
And they said, the idea that the world is fair is incorrect.
In fact, it is the most vicious of aggressors that succeed and are rewarded for their actions.
Joe Biden probably has the predator mindset.
ian crossland
Yeah, he does.
tim pool
And so his attitude is, you don't matter.
All that matters is that he gets power from whatever he can.
ian crossland
And if you talk to him, he'd be like, geopolitics is a dirty game!
Like, that's how he'd justify it.
kevin sorbo
Well, all I can say is this is very disappointing.
Next thing you tell me Nancy Pelosi has, you know, she can manipulate the stock market.
ian crossland
No, I don't think she has any ability to.
kevin sorbo
Oh yes she does.
ian crossland
Insider trading.
brett dasovic
Can we have that like Nancy Pelosi stock tracker that exists where it's like, yeah.
tim pool
You want to get rich?
ian crossland
I was being sarcastic by the way.
tim pool
I know you were.
If you're looking for a financial advisor, I'd recommend reaching out to the financial advisors of members of Congress.
brett dasovic
Yes.
tim pool
Figure out which company Nancy Pelosi is using to handle her deals and just say, hey, look, whatever Nancy does, that's what I'm doing.
unidentified
Inconvenient truth.
kevin sorbo
All you had to do when Al Gore came out, you should have invested in everything he put his money into with this whole climate change thing.
ian crossland
Did he make bank?
kevin sorbo
He made a lot of money.
tim pool
Fauci made a couple million bucks, I think.
kevin sorbo
A couple million.
brett dasovic
On top of the book deal.
ian crossland
This, I think that Biden's brain has been destroyed by this Hunter's revealment, by the laptop getting revealed, because it basically implicates the entire Biden family, like Hunter and Joe, with all this criminal corruption, working with Burisma.
kevin sorbo
It's disgu- I mean, and I think that his brain is so- Did he get into Georgetown on his grades, or was it because of his name?
ian crossland
Of Hunter?
kevin sorbo
Yeah.
ian crossland
I don't know.
They said he has a law degree.
I have no idea what the hell's going on.
kevin sorbo
I was shocked by that.
tim pool
Alright you guys, we know that Joe is corrupt, but we have to talk about this video right here.
Have you guys seen this one?
I need your help.
Joe Biden was giving a speech to the UN General Assembly, and he said some words, I think, and I don't know what he said.
I'll play the video for you now.
joe biden
Now as we evolve our institutions and drive creative new partnerships, let me be clear.
Certain principles of our international system are sacrosanct.
tim pool
Okay, I caught some of that, but let's try that again.
brett dasovic
Play it again.
joe biden
Now we need to have you involve our institutions.
kevin sorbo
There's your institutions.
brett dasovic
Something about our institutions.
kevin sorbo
Let me be clear, and you heard a couple of people laugh.
Alright, here we go, here we go.
joe biden
Now we need to have you involve our institutions and drive creative new partnerships.
Let me be clear.
ian crossland
Certain things are more important than that.
tim pool
Somebody goes, ah!
Wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
I want to assume it was a cough, but we're going to play it.
Here we go.
joe biden
Now as we evolve our institutions and drive creative new partnerships, let me be clear.
brett dasovic
I'm deaf in one ear, so maybe I'm struggling really hard here, but like, I have no idea what that first phrase was.
tim pool
Hey, look, I deciphered Trinidad Shabba Da Pressure.
Trinidad Shabba Da Pressure.
And we think what he was saying was true international cooperation under pressure.
He's also said Vaticafcare and Nexnalrescent.
I have no idea what those things are.
kevin sorbo
That's a new drug because they just take a bunch of letters and throw it together because every other commercial on TV, have you noticed?
tim pool
Nexnalrescent?
kevin sorbo
There's yet another drug.
carter banks
It actually does sound like a drug.
tim pool
Yeah, Nexnalrescent sounds like a drug.
kevin sorbo
But this one... With only 47 side effects.
tim pool
This one, listen, listen.
joe biden
I recognize the Evolver Institution.
brett dasovic
I recognize... I recognize something?
Is that what he's saying?
joe biden
Are we as or as our institutions?
tim pool
Are we as or as our institutions?
unidentified
Wow.
carter banks
I thought I heard a different language.
tim pool
But look, Mitch McConnell freezes.
kevin sorbo
But it's almost sad.
brett dasovic
No, it is.
It's sad.
tim pool
Mitch McConnell freezes.
And then everyone's like, whoa, he's not doing anything.
It's major news because it's shocking.
Biden figured it out.
Mutter incoherently.
And what happens is the journalists are too embarrassed to ask, did I misinterpret what he said?
So with McConnell paralyzed or whatever, having a stroke or whatever he's having, everyone agrees something bad happened.
But do you want to be the one person in the room to go, what did Biden just say?
And they're going to go, did you not hear him?
I'm not here to do your job for you.
carter banks
Also people that don't speak English might.
kevin sorbo
Some will, but it's got to be of the 95% of liberal journalists.
Don't you think some of these guys have been on closed doors going, how can we not say something?
Why doesn't one come out of that closet?
brett dasovic
It's weird to me.
tim pool
No, no, no, it's because what happens is these corporate journalists, after Biden gives a speech and they take notes, they walk into the back room, say, I have no idea what he just said, so you tell me, and then they look over at their CIA handler who then says, here's the quote, and then they just type whatever they're told by the intel agencies.
There you go.
There you go.
brett dasovic
What is, like, the sign language interpreter?
They have sign language interpreters at that events.
Were they just standing there like, what did he say?
tim pool
No, they probably just went like this.
brett dasovic
That's the universal sign language.
ian crossland
That's a good one.
tim pool
That's crazy, man.
This is the President of the United States.
kevin sorbo
Well you're talking about McConnell too. I mean, does he freeze on the internet?
tim pool
And Feinstein?
kevin sorbo
Oh my gosh! It's like a horror movie. I mean, it's really scary when they wheel her in.
I mean, it's sad.
tim pool
We can talk all about the cultural decay in this country and, you know, the potential for conflict or whatever's
going on, but let's just be real. Like, one of the biggest
existential threats we're facing is our decrepit, aging political class
and their inability to relinquish any power.
kevin sorbo
Well, left more than anybody was screaming about these other old guys in the office, and who do they put in office?
I mean, they still voted for the guy.
tim pool
Trump's 77, too, to be fair.
unidentified
He's old.
kevin sorbo
A lot more energy.
tim pool
Yeah, I say this, like Trump's a spry.
You know what I mean?
Trump, he has this video where he like hits a golf ball up and then catches it and everyone's like, you know, he may be out of shape, but Biden's busted.
brett dasovic
Did you see that picture of Joe Biden stretching?
The guy's like, Joe Biden's stretching before running and they're like, Trump couldn't do this.
What's that guy's name?
Harry Sisson.
Yeah, he's like, Trump couldn't do this.
Joe Biden does all sorts of stuff that Trump couldn't do.
kevin sorbo
I've golfed with President Trump.
I gotta tell you, he hits a pretty good golf ball.
brett dasovic
Pretty good?
kevin sorbo
It's pretty good.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's an example of how solar age and genetic age are not the same.
You can go around the sun a hundred times and still have a healthy, youthful body.
kevin sorbo
Bill Shatner's in his nineties and talking about a guy with a lot of energy.
tim pool
Let's play this Harry Sisson video.
I have a lot of things to say about this guy.
unidentified
Just out of curiosity for all the Trump supporters and Republicans, do you think that Donald Trump could do something like this?
Stand up and stretch like President Biden was?
This is President Biden out in Delaware recently, exercising with First Lady Jill Biden.
And I saw this photo, I was like, wow, that's pretty impressive for Joe Biden.
tim pool
Yeah, you know what?
That is impressive for Joe Biden, I agree.
Anybody really think that Trump could match this?
Does anybody think that Trump could stretch like this?
unidentified
And also, do these Trump supporters think that Trump could ride a bike?
tim pool
Like, can you guys imagine that?
And this photo proves a lot to me.
unidentified
Not only is Joe Biden more mentally fit to be president, but he's also more physically fit to be president.
tim pool
You know, Republicans always want to talk about Biden's fitness for president.
kevin sorbo
It truly is liberalism, truly is a sickness.
tim pool
But this is the problem.
They want you to say liberalism, but it's not liberalism.
This is, like, I'm sorry, dude, look.
I'm an old man, I guess.
I'm 37.
I wish I was your age.
But when I was growing up, the kid who acted like this was like the weirdo.
I don't know what neighborhood he's from, maybe in the suburbs, that's what it was all about.
He would be the nerd who'd get bullied.
I'm just saying, you go to where my high school was, I was only there for two months.
But if a kid like that was standing around being like, You know, Bill Clinton was really good, you guys.
Can George W. Bush... Al Gore's gonna be like... He'd get picked on.
unidentified
Sorry.
brett dasovic
You're a kid.
Why do you care about... I know that's a horrible thing to say.
tim pool
He's like 20-something, isn't he?
brett dasovic
Plus, he's being paid for it, right?
unidentified
Did we watch the whole bike video?
tim pool
When Joe Biden fell down.
Dude, Joe Biden fell up the stairs on more than one occasion.
kevin sorbo
Well, how many videos do you have to show of him walking around not knowing where to go when he gets off the stage speaking?
tim pool
Or shaking hands with the air.
But I'll just say this.
It's weird that he's like, can Trump do this?
And I'm like, probably not.
Next question.
I don't understand what that has to do with anything I care about.
ian crossland
Yeah man, the conflation between Biden and Trump.
Anytime someone in a conversation about Biden brings up Donald Trump, or vice versa, talking about Donald Trump and someone brings up Joe Biden, you gotta, not dismiss it, but realize that that's a moronic conflation of data.
It has nothing to do with the other.
kevin sorbo
I know Hillary Clinton can do that.
tim pool
I- I- Oh right, she collapsed.
brett dasovic
This makes LeVake look even better now after that video of him playing tennis with Jake Paul.
unidentified
Oh right.
brett dasovic
He's like actually in pretty good shape, so.
tim pool
Look, I'm not voting for Trump or anybody based on whether or not they can stretch their-
What muscle is that?
It's a hamstring.
kevin sorbo
It's a hamstring, yeah.
tim pool
Hamstring's in the back, isn't it?
That's a quadricep maybe?
kevin sorbo
Is it a quadricep?
tim pool
I thought that's what it was.
It could be, he might be doing a sartorial stretch because he's pulling to the side, you know, sartorius.
But I really don't care if Trump can do that.
I really don't care if Trump can say, Trina, nice job, but a pressure.
All that matters to me is that Trump is the one guy with the highest probability of just firing random people and cutting down these bureaucracies.
For the longest time, Republicans have been like, smaller government, smaller government, then they spend more money, they bring more people, they don't reduce size of government.
I'm just hoping that Donald Trump is a guy who goes in for revenge and just starts firing people.
In which case, Harry, dude, I literally wouldn't care if Joe Biden did a round-off back layout.
I would be like, wow, that's really cool!
Where do I vote for Trump?
It's meaningless.
Trump could be sitting in a wheelchair, eating a box of Krispy Kremes with icing and custard all over his face, and I would still be like, he's more likely to fire people.
That's all I can say.
I'm not happy with any of it.
kevin sorbo
Hey, he made us energy independent, right?
And now, as soon as Biden got in office, he said, no, we're going to cut off the oil supply.
Here, let's buy oil from countries that hate us.
And gas goes to seven bucks a gallon.
tim pool
Yeah, it's getting crazy out there.
kevin sorbo
But don't pay attention to that.
tim pool
But that's the point, because the mechanism of the American energy, or I should say the petrodollar, is we need to be dependent on others so that they don't stop being customers for us, right?
The reason we give millions of dollars to gender studies programs in Pakistan is so that they have money to spend so that they spend it.
It's really that simple.
You give the money to someone.
Pakistan is a choice.
They can trade in one or they can trade in dollars.
So we go to them and say, hey, we're going to give you $12 million for gender studies.
I don't care what you do with it.
And then they're going to pad their bank accounts.
They're going to steal that money.
But that ensures that they're going to be like, no, no, we trade in dollars.
So when China comes to them and says, no, no, no, don't trade in dollars, trade in yuan, they're gonna be like, eh, we just got $12 million.
If we keep trading in this, we're rich for free.
Screw off.
That's the name of the game.
So when Joe Biden gets in, he has to shut down Donald Trump's Make America Great plans, because what Donald Trump is doing, uh-oh, he's bringing manufacturing back, he's securing our borders, he's making us energy independent, so that we can have a good economy here.
People like Joe Biden and the deep state establishment, whatever you want to call it, they want global control, they want war, they want conquest, they want unipolar global power, so they're going to say, no, no, no, no, we've got to give more of American resources away to ensure that people are beholden to us.
brett dasovic
Is this, this might seem like a stupid question, is it one of those things where like, if we're, with the US being so involved militarily in other countries, is part of our involvement, helping other countries with our military, is part of that under the expectation that they will continue to trade in US dollars?
tim pool
Well, yeah, of course.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Ukraine, for instance, Biden threatened to withhold a $1.3 million loan from the IMF.
Billion?
Billion.
1.3 billion.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
That's what I meant to say.
Thank you.
What was happening is the IMF was going to loan it to the Ukrainian government and the U.S.
was going to, what do they call it, back it.
Say, like, if they default, we'll pay it.
And then Biden was like, we're not going to back it if you don't fire Viktor Shokin.
And they were like, well, fuck off.
So pardon me.
And then so then he was like, no, I'm serious.
tim pool
And so they fired Viktor It's crazy when I was watching that clip, because even my assessment of the Burisma scandal is nowhere near as in-depth as that guy's assessment was when he was breaking it down.
ian crossland
Brilliant.
Rob Noah is his name.
tim pool
Mykola Zlochevsky's funds were frozen under this corruption investigation, and the government passed some provision that unfroze them, and Shokin immediately rushed in to get his asses frozen again, because they were going after him.
Joe Biden comes in and says, fire the prosecutor.
They didn't fire him outright.
He was forced to resign somewhat later on.
I think it was a few months later.
And then, the new guy who comes in, Biden's like, and he's solid!
New guy clears Zlochevsky of all wrongdoing.
Assets are unfrozen.
Zlochevsky returns to Ukraine to begin his work once again.
Donald Trump gets elected.
Starts investigating what Joe Biden did.
Zlochevsky flees Ukraine once again.
ian crossland
Yup.
tim pool
These people are evil, corrupt individuals that would sell out their own mothers.
Look at what Hunter Biden is.
Joe Biden made him that and uses him as some A vessel to squeeze resources out of his public career.
Evil.
It's just so despicable.
ian crossland
It is, man.
Where were you, Kevin, in 2015 when this was kind of transitioning into the Trump years, what was it like?
Were you in Hollywood at the time?
kevin sorbo
Yeah, we left about five years ago, so I was definitely still there.
ian crossland
Were you into politics?
kevin sorbo
I've always been into politics.
ian crossland
And then what was your vision of what was happening through the Obama administration in the second term and then into the Trump years?
kevin sorbo
It was interesting because I lived way out of Hollywood.
I've never been a Hollywood guy.
I like the industry.
I like making movies and TV shows.
I like the creative process of it, but I never really fit into Hollywood because I'm not the ass kisser that you need to be in that industry.
I didn't really see it until I did these charity golf events.
That's when you see it because 80% of the actors there We're obviously Obama supporters and you know the bashing is going on but I was one of those questioning if they say something negative about the Republicans I go what about what Obama's doing and it was I didn't like tread a fine line because by then I was already kicked out of Hollywood.
They knew where I stood.
I just did a charity golf event for Joe Namath up in Long Island last week.
And the guy, the actor, I'm not going to mention his name, but he's very, very far left.
Nice guy, but he was having a hard time golfing with me just because I'm not far left.
And it's interesting.
It's so weird because I don't harbor that kind of anger.
I don't.
To me, it's like, dude, let's have a conversation about it.
I'm not going to try to change your mind, but let's have a real conversation.
And it's difficult to get that from the left because they feel if they yell louder at you that they're correct.
That's the weird thing.
brett dasovic
Also, it's a charity golf tournament.
Do you have to even have the conversation?
Just go be polite to one another and move on with your life.
kevin sorbo
Yeah.
You know, I asked, look, I asked him, I got a movie coming up in October and that I directed a beautiful movie.
It's called Miracle in East Texas.
Please check it out.
It's MiracleInEastTexas.com.
And, um, it's a wonderful movie.
It's a true story.
And I asked him, Hey, would you do an endorsement for it?
And he goes, well, is it like, is it got like a faith message to it?
I don't care, but then why ask that?
It's like you brought up earlier, when people ask questions, or they say something, their defense is like, well, you know, Epps isn't working for us.
Well, we didn't say that he was.
Why are you defending yourself with that?
So it makes you wonder about what they're saying.
So I had a hard time getting him to want to even give an endorsement for my movie, and we're in the same industry.
And I said, look, I got a wonderful cast with John Ratzenberger, Lou Gossett Jr.
Tyler Mayne, it's a wonderful true story.
It's won 10 film festivals.
So I'm telling people right now, please go.
I gotta get my plug in for it.
Go to sorbostudios.com actually.
There it is.
tim pool
We got it pulled up.
Tell us about it.
What's going on?
kevin sorbo
It's a true story set in 1930 and it's about the largest oil fund in the history of the world.
True story.
It was about two con men played by myself and there's John Ratzenberger just to the other side of me there.
next to Luke Gossett and they would go through Oklahoma and Texas wooing widows out of their
money on fake oil wells.
They would sell 500% of the shares, declare a dry hole going to the next city.
They get down to Texas in the Kilgore area, they strike oil by accident, largest oil find
in the history of the world.
I'm not giving anything away because it's Miracle in East Texas.
There's other little miracles that happen along the way.
But it's won Best Romantic Comedy, Best Faith Film, Family Film, Judge's Favorite.
It's an amazing movie.
We only got two days.
It's a Fathom movie.
And Fathom gets independent movies out there.
Runs 750 screens.
But we need people, if you buy tickets right now, sell this sucker out, we'll get more dates.
It's a PG film.
You can take your six year old.
brett dasovic
And I saw that it's got the pay-it-forward method, too, if you want to buy tickets for other people.
kevin sorbo
It's a wonderful, true story, and you'll laugh at it.
It's great, and it's really, eventually, it's how the Hunt family became so wealthy.
unidentified
Hunt.
ian crossland
What family is the Hunt family?
kevin sorbo
The Hunt family.
Well, they became very wealthy.
The two Hunt brothers own the Kansas City Chiefs since the 1980s.
Wow.
tim pool
So wait, wait, wait.
These guys were ripping people off and accidentally were right?
kevin sorbo
They accidentally struck oil.
And my character wants to get the heck out of Dodge.
John Ratzenberger looks just like the real guy in real life.
His character, he wanted, Dad Everett was his name.
He wanted to stay and said, look, we're going to bring oil in.
Dude, we sell 500% of the shares.
You can't have a 500% of the shares and we ripped off all these other people in other cities.
He goes, I'm an oil man.
I'm going to do this and of course we get arrested.
And it's during the court case and all the widows come down to see us get hung basically.
And it's just a very fun movie.
Dan Gordon is the guy pictured just to my right as I face it.
Dan Gordon wrote this.
He's an Oscar nominated writer.
He wrote Hurricane for Denzel Washington.
unidentified
I love that.
kevin sorbo
White Earp, Kevin Costner wrote 60 episodes of Highway to Heaven for Michael Landon.
Wow!
And that's my wife next to me.
She's in the movie.
She produces the movie with me.
And it's a wonderful, wonderful family movie.
So please, for all those fans that keep saying, please make more movies like this, I don't have a $100 million advertising budget like the avatars do.
We need word of mouth more than anything else.
tim pool
So 39 days until it comes out?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
What's the October 29th?
kevin sorbo
October 29th and 30th.
And if we sell out these theaters, they're gone.
It's going pretty good right now.
If we sell them out, we'll get more days.
But this at least gets us in the theaters.
And that's what Fathom is able to do for independent movies.
ian crossland
What's Fathom?
kevin sorbo
Fathom is a company that gets movies like mine, independent movies, in theaters.
Documentaries.
Gives you two days.
You got to get out there and really hit the pavement to do promotion work.
Look, I've already done probably 80 interviews in the last three weeks with another 80 to do before the thing comes out, so that's why I'm on the road right now doing it.
They do a great job to get it out there, but it's up to me to do the promotional work, and I appreciate you guys giving me a plug for it, because this movie is great for the whole family.
You will love it, and it's a true story, which I absolutely love.
All the music is 1930 or earlier, all the cars are 1930 or earlier, and one of the trains, it's about an hour and 45 minutes.
brett dasovic
Oh, I love it.
unidentified
Under two hours, best thing ever.
kevin sorbo
And the train here is one of the two working trains in all of North America pre-1930.
ian crossland
Wow, nice.
kevin sorbo
So we've got to use the train, which is good production value.
tim pool
Is it 30th of Saturday?
kevin sorbo
Uh, no, I think it's a Saturday-Sunday, isn't it?
tim pool
Oh, okay, even better.
Yeah.
Let me double check.
brett dasovic
Anything under two hours.
kevin sorbo
Oh, no, no, no, it's Sunday-Monday.
It's Sunday-Monday.
So we get more days, obviously we'll get more time for it to get out there, but like I said, great movie.
John Ratzenberger's awesome in it.
Luke Assad Jr., the guy in the beard in the far left, that's Tyler Maine.
A lot of people that know WWF guys, he was a very famous wrestler back in the 80s and 90s.
And he was Sabretooth in the X-Men movies.
And he's Jason.
He's got that leather mask on.
All the scary movies.
He's about 6'10".
He's a really big dude.
And he was great in this.
And as I told you, I love doing true stories.
And this is just another really wonderful story and a wonderful Dan Gordon script.
ian crossland
Do you like acting or directing better?
kevin sorbo
I started directing back in Hercules by season 3 when I walked into Universal I said hey talk to Sam Raimi was our executive producer I said Sam Raimi was the executive producer?
brett dasovic
I didn't know that.
kevin sorbo
He did the evil dads and he did all the first two spider-mans and I said I can I'm gonna direct he goes okay and I went Well, okay.
Thank you.
I thought there'd be some kind of fight that I was kind of ready to go.
But I started directing back then.
I love to direct.
I did another movie earlier this year called Left Behind Rise of the Antichrist.
Left Behind is based on the 80 Million Left Behind books.
It's written by Jerry Jenkins.
Right now his son Dallas Jenkins is doing The Chosen, which went to the Fathom Route as well.
The Chosen is doing really well.
Massive.
And they raised all their money from People, they raised 30, 40 million dollars from people, so it's outside the Hollywood system.
And I still, if you're gonna give me a choice, I'd still love acting more.
But I've got four of the movies in post-production right now, so I've been staying busy doing my own thing.
ian crossland
That you acted in?
Or directed?
kevin sorbo
That I acted, I directed one other one, but I acted in the other ones, and I got two documentaries that I produced that are coming out later this year as well.
ian crossland
We were talking about, last night, about the Disaster Artist movie with James Franco, and James directed it and acted in it.
And how do you overcome, as a director and an actor, the difficulty of not seeing yourself acting as you're directing?
kevin sorbo
How do you go back and watch the... I trust, usually, I have ADs that I love to use, and my wife is a very smart producer as well.
I trust their opinions when I finish a scene.
But I usually know.
I can find myself, I go, I'm acting right now, I'm not doing a very good job.
I like to work fast.
I'm a believer in the way Clint Eastwood works.
He shoots eight-hour days and makes Oscar-winning pictures.
I don't go beyond... 12 hours tops.
But you start working with these directors that do in the 16-hour days, you don't have to.
There's a lot of wasted time on sets, as you know.
There's just a lot of wasted time.
It's a lot of hurry up and wait.
Yeah, but then it's like I'm like another AD in the set.
What are we waiting for?
What's going on?
So I always want to work with people that work quick.
I want a DP that knows his lighting.
The DP we had here was great.
We shot this in Canada, actually.
And I showed this movie to a group of people in Texas.
And they go, I know where that was.
I said, no, you don't.
So once again, it's show business, not show show.
They got a bigger tax credit.
They get a bit dollars more stronger up there.
The 3000 acre ranch that we shot in.
If you're looking east, you're looking at the Rocky Mountains and downtown Calgary.
If you're looking west, it looks like Texas.
And that same location we shot at, Revenant was shot there with Leonardo DiCaprio.
They shot Lonesome Dove there.
They shot Open Range with Kevin Costner.
And they shot Clint Eastwood's Unforgiven.
It's good enough for Clint Eastwood.
That location is good enough for Kevin Sorbo.
tim pool
We just got our tickets.
kevin sorbo
You're a good man.
tim pool
Got ten tickets for us and the crew.
kevin sorbo
You are awesome.
tim pool
Our theater's got it.
Our theater down the street.
kevin sorbo
All you gotta do is plug in your zip code and right now you can go.
Thank you for that.
brett dasovic
I appreciate it.
kevin sorbo
You'll love this movie.
You'll love this movie.
It's just a lot of fun.
And make sure you stick around for the credits because the outtakes are hilarious and there's one less thing that happens in all the credits roll that I think you'll get a big laugh out of.
tim pool
First, the story sounds awesome.
It sounds like a fun movie.
I like the story idea.
Fan of your work.
But on top of that, We're dealing with an industry that kicked you out for no reason other than your private, personal life and beliefs.
Yep.
Even though you have the biggest show... I don't know.
kevin sorbo
Hercules was the most watched show in the world by season three.
We're in 176 countries.
Andromeda was in 150 countries and the number one shown first-run syndication in America.
tim pool
A superstar.
You're making money for the industry.
Hands down.
And they say, no, you're not allowed to believe these things, so we're getting rid of that.
We should support films like yours so that we can tell that industry to, I'll refrain from swearing, to please leave us alone.
Please leave.
kevin sorbo
But look at the movies they're putting out there right now.
Disney's looking at a billion dollar loss this year.
More than a billion dollars.
I do movies that are in the three million dollar range.
I do movies that are fun.
These are movies Hollywood used to do.
Movies that had hope and love and laughter in it.
tim pool
We were talking about this.
We talked about this last night.
Groundhog Day masterpiece.
kevin sorbo
Great movie.
tim pool
But what was the budget on that thing?
Super low, right?
kevin sorbo
Oh, I can't imagine.
They probably shot that for 15 million.
tim pool
It's just good actors and comedians in this place.
brett dasovic
And then, out of the top 20 movies that made the top 20 in the box office this year, 10 of them financially lost money.
Ten of them did not make enough money to lose about $800 million.
Terrible.
tim pool
I tried watching it.
I'm sorry.
kevin sorbo
Well, they make the woman the big star again.
They took away Indiana Jones from Indiana Jones.
And that's what most of these movies are doing, is this emasculation of men.
It's just that women are the big badasses.
The men are a bunch of losers.
brett dasovic
And the sad thing is, when you say $100 million budget, that's actually the low end now.
kevin sorbo
No, that was a $280 million budget.
brett dasovic
Yeah, the ones that all lost money, the ones that gambled on $200 to $250 million budgets, there was others that were more than that because COVID restrictions ended up setting people back a large part of their time.
So out of those top five movies, four were all $100 million movies that ended up making extreme amounts of money because they did good marketing.
At the bottom end of that list, you have Sound of Freedom and two horror movies, all of which spent less than $16 million to make over $100 million each.
kevin sorbo
Well, Sound of Freedom was about $14.5 million on a budget.
I saw the movie three years ago.
Jim Caviezel and I had the same manager for years, so I saw the movie a while ago.
They made it five years ago.
I've been and and that movie they to buy it back from Disney because Disney sat and did nothing with it
So they needed to make 50 million to break even and they did and I had 175 million
It made more money than Indiana Jones You know what you know what fueled that number one Angel
Studios Angel Studios has been chosen they go on they got they got
I don't know hundred million people that you know, watch them and they said support this movie
So they did Hollywood came in and attacked the movie. So basically Hollywood said hey
We're not against child sex trafficking.
We're for it.
We're pedophiles.
And I think it made people angry on the left side and the right side.
There's plenty of people that are atheists, plenty of people that are on the left.
They don't want child sex trafficking either, so they went to the movies.
tim pool
If there were some communists who made a movie.
kevin sorbo
Yeah.
tim pool
And they had conservative actors in that film, and they were trying to make the story of a young communist on an adventure, and it was a very ideological film, but they were super chill and being like, hey man, we don't want to judge you, we just want to, you know, make a film.
I'd have respect for that.
But it's worse.
They're making over-budget, bad movies, regurgitated movies, while telling you that you are not worthy to be in their presence.
So I say screw them.
We support people who are nice, and who believe in good things.
And so, whether it's Sound of Freedom or Miracle in East Texas, these are the kind of movies I would much rather pay to see, and pay extra to see, and pay it forward for other people to see, simply to tell, I'm going to refrain from swearing, these jerks to shove off.
If they were nice, I'd say, I'm sorry your movie didn't do well.
But they are not nice people, they are mean and nasty people, so they don't deserve success.
ian crossland
When you were getting like, you said you got kicked out of Hollywood, I'd put it in quotes.
kevin sorbo
I'm the first to cancel culture before it became a term, yeah.
ian crossland
Did you get into an argument with the wrong producer one night or something?
kevin sorbo
No, I think it just came in.
I was being, no, it was all on the internet.
It was me posting stuff just saying, hey, what about this?
What about that?
What do you mean about, you know?
I mean, any kind of topic I would bring up and just say, well, why don't we look at the other side of the issue?
You know, global warming.
Why don't we look at the other side?
There are a lot of scientists who say the complete opposite.
I mean, to me, and that's just one example.
And so they said we can't work it anymore because I said, wow, because Hollywood, you know, screams for tolerance.
Be tolerant of the issues we're talking about, you know?
And they put these out there and people aren't tolerant because they said there are enough of it.
People don't care, really.
When I get called homophobic and it cracks me up, I've been in the business 40 years And I worked like a gay person every set I've been on.
You won't find one that says, oh my gosh, he was so mean to medieval.
I wasn't.
They could come out now and say so, because obviously you can go about 25 years later and make it up.
But that never ever happened.
But Hollywood is just the way they are.
And I said, fine.
I walked away and said, I formed Sorbo Studios.
Go to sorbostudios.com.
You'll see the amount of work that I've done that my wife has done.
It's, uh, you know, I'm going to keep doing the movies that make people, uh, talk about them in a positive way.
brett dasovic
With none of the Hollywood funny accounting.
ian crossland
Have you been working with your wife for a long time?
kevin sorbo
Yeah.
We actually met on set of Hercules.
She hates when I say this because every episode of Hercules, they brought down a hot babe for me to work with.
It was a great dating service for me.
And then I met her at the end of season four and honest to God, it was like lightning strike.
It was like the lightning strike you showed us earlier.
I was like, boom, this is the one.
And I had to wear her down.
She says I don't date actors, she said.
And I had long hair, then she goes, don't date people with long hair.
And I said, I'm making a good lip with it right now.
So, but, you know, it's, she's, we get along great.
25 years we've been married.
ian crossland
She's like a producer.
She works mainly as a producer.
kevin sorbo
She's an actor too, producer.
She's a writer.
She's a homeschool advocate I think I brought up.
She's written four books on it.
And she wrote a book called Words for Warriors, which is really, you know, you need to fight to defend your position.
on what the attacks that the left has against the right.
And so it's a, she's a brainiac.
She was a biochemical engineering major at Duke.
I wasn't, I went to college for a whole different reason.
ian crossland
Yeah, were you theater?
kevin sorbo
No, I double business major.
ian crossland
Oh, cool.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
Is this the type of thing where what's going on right now because of the writers and actor strike,
so you had to get a waiver, right?
kevin sorbo
I had to get a waiver just to even talk about this movie, even though we shot it a long time ago.
And I said, they've never done that before.
This is the first time they went through everything, but we got it pretty easily.
You know what?
The SAG has still been a great union for me.
I gotta say.
They've given out at least 150 waivers to other independent movies.
So if you're independent of Hollywood, this is our movie.
It's nothing to do with anybody in Hollywood.
It's independent.
It's independently funded.
It's nothing to do.
So we were able to get it.
Otherwise we wouldn't be able to talk about it here right now.
brett dasovic
Wow.
tim pool
But they would stop you based on the contract?
unidentified
Crazy.
brett dasovic
They wouldn't be able to talk about it.
kevin sorbo
Crazy.
They used to go after stopped current productions, the ones coming up.
Now they're saying, no, you can't even promote a movie that was done.
tim pool
So why, for someone starting today, why join the union?
kevin sorbo
Well, you know what, they're going to solve the issue.
It'll be done.
I don't know how much longer they can do it, but we get producers in Hollywood, they're making $50 million a year.
This guy came out, I can't remember which bozo it was, he said, well I hope you actors starve and lose your houses.
There's a lot of actors that are living from month to month trying to get a gig, and for these guys to say that is pretty ridiculous.
tim pool
But where's the union to protect people when they get fired from their jobs for their political views?
kevin sorbo
That's true.
That's a good question.
tim pool
I mean, because if they're doing right by you even now, when a network or a studio comes to you and says, because of your views, like Gina Carano, was she in the union?
They should immediately step in and be like, no, you're not doing this.
brett dasovic
Because they're on the same side.
kevin sorbo
Yeah, they should, shouldn't they?
But unfortunately, most of them are on the left-hand side as well.
tim pool
And if that's the case, I don't understand why someone would want to join the union.
ian crossland
Well, in Hollywood, it's really not as much about getting fired as it is about just not getting hired again.
tim pool
And that's not... Exactly.
kevin sorbo
Because most people, if you look at the average salary of an actor, I think it's less than $20,000 a year.
If Tom Cruise is making 20 million, how many people had to make zero to average that down to 20,000 a year?
You know what I'm saying?
I was very fortunate.
I never had to work another job.
tim pool
Then we have to displace that industry.
We have to strip them of their centralized control over this.
And I'm going to go see your movie.
kevin sorbo
Thank you so much.
ian crossland
When you went out to Hollywood, did you just crush it immediately?
kevin sorbo
I already had the SAG card.
The important thing is getting that Screen Actors Guild card.
So during college, Minneapolis is home to headquarters of Target, 3M, Honeywell, Pillsbury, Best Buy.
brett dasovic
A lot of ads.
kevin sorbo
So I did a lot of commercials during my college years.
So I already had a very good commercial tape and I had my Screen Actors card.
So that already opened the door.
I had no problem getting an agent.
I shot over 150 commercials in my career.
I never ever had to bartend or wait tables.
I was very lucky because most of my buddies were selling cars or bouncing or whatever.
I didn't have to do that.
tim pool
Did you do a lot of scripted stuff before Hercules?
kevin sorbo
No, just commercials.
I mean, I did some talking commercials and stuff, but that gave me the freedom.
I didn't know anybody when I went out there.
Everybody's an actress, so it was easy to find out what acting classes to take.
I studied with three coaches over six years before I got Hercules.
My last acting class was me, Brad Pitt, Matthew Perry, Charlotte Ross.
I mean, Brad Pitt, I remember him coming in with his scene for Thelma and Louise.
If you ever saw that movie, he's only in it ten minutes.
He just steals it, and the next thing I know, we're on a break in our acting class halfway through it, because back then Brad was like a chain smoker.
And he's like, dude, I just got a movie.
I got a movie called River Runs Through It with Robert Redford.
Well, bye-bye Brad.
From then on, he was gone.
tim pool
Amazing.
kevin sorbo
And Matthew Perry!
I remember him doing a scene in class.
I said, I go, Brad, this dude should be in a sitcom.
Well, two years later, he's on Friends.
brett dasovic
Do you think that when this all comes through, what do you think they'll end up like?
Where does the strike fall?
Do they end up acquiescing on?
kevin sorbo
I have no idea, but there's got to be something in AI.
There has to be, there's got to be some given there, but it's, you know, this is a blessing for independent studios right now, independent filmmakers, because Netflix and Amazon need to have new material every month.
They need new stuff to keep their subscribers interested.
So, uh, this is a blessing for us.
I'm sure we'll, we'll sell this to somebody.
tim pool
We're gonna go to Super Chats!
So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this YouTube channel, share the show with your friends, head over to TimCast.com, click join us so you can hang out with the Discord community and talk with like-minded individuals.
And as a member, you get access to the uncensored show and you can even submit questions and call in and talk to us.
But if you wanna submit questions, you gotta be a member of the Discord.
So, let's read what y'all have to say.
Clint Torres, the first Super Chat says, howdy people!
Howdy!
unidentified
Hey, Clint.
tim pool
There you go.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Dinglehopper says, a $5 tip of the hat to Based Case Orbs, when can we expect Pool Boy 3?
Oh, my gosh.
kevin sorbo
I did a movie called Pool Boy, which is absolutely ridiculous.
It was so funny.
It was very much in the vein of like a Zucker film.
Airplane, Naked Gun, and stuff like that.
And I did another one, too.
We did a spoof on 300 called Meet the Spartans.
unidentified
No way!
kevin sorbo
We opened number one per screen average.
I've seen that movie.
unidentified
Wow.
carter banks
Really funny movie.
kevin sorbo
It was directed by the epic movie, date movie, scary movie guys.
carter banks
Oh, I love epic movie.
kevin sorbo
When I saw 300 in the theaters, I loved it, it was cool, but my whole mind was like, they should spoof this thing.
There's this giant hole in the middle of Sparta and dogs and kids are falling and dying every day.
When they called me up a month later, I said, dude, don't even tell me my role, I'm there.
tim pool
Dakota Stanton says, Kevin, do you think Andromeda got a fair shake?
kevin sorbo
No, I don't think it did.
I mean, it's the first show Gene Roddenberry wrote after Star Trek.
I think the biggest mistake, five-year run, would have been seven, but Tribune Company at the time owned us.
I don't know if you guys remember, maybe too young, in 2005, our last year, Tribune Company, the only one in Chicago, went into bankruptcy.
unidentified
Yeah.
kevin sorbo
So they had to sell off all their, they had to freeze all their assets, and unfortunately we were one of them, even though we were the number one show in syndication.
Should have had two more years.
My biggest fight with them is it should be called Star Trek, colon, Andromeda.
Because you put the Star Trek just name on anything, it brings in more people.
So I don't get invited here.
I'm the first captain, Captain Dillon.
After Captain Kirk was created by Gene Roddenberry, I get invited in none of the Star Trek conventions.
unidentified
But it wasn't actually Star Trek, it was like... It was Gene Roddenberry wrote it.
kevin sorbo
So it was thousands of years beyond Star Trek into the future.
So my ship, And I've done comic cons with both Patrick Stewart and Shatner.
I'm a foot taller than both of them.
I told them at a con, I said, you realize I'd kick both your asses.
You're the real captain.
No, no freaking chance.
tim pool
Right on.
Let's grab some more.
unidentified
What about Scott Bakula though?
kevin sorbo
He was in another one.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
He was in the first, what was it, Star Trek?
kevin sorbo
Deep Space Nine or something?
ian crossland
No, it was the original, whatever it was.
kevin sorbo
No, he wasn't in Star Trek The Next Generation.
unidentified
Not the original.
ian crossland
It was the one that was about the original Enterprise.
Star Trek Enterprise, I think it was called.
kevin sorbo
I don't know.
Maybe.
ian crossland
Star Trek Enterprise, maybe.
kevin sorbo
What do you got?
tim pool
Let's read more.
Dr. Jester says, Tim is right, we must create culture.
I wrote a book called Brotherhood of the Revenants on Amazon.
Solomon Cain, WH40K and Lovecraft with real 1066 AD England history, weather and time machine matching too.
This has got a YouTube as well, at Dr. Jester.
Shout out to those creating culture, which is also why y'all should look up right now, MiracleInEastTexas.com and search for your theater, where it's playing.
Buy tickets and go see it.
kevin sorbo
Please do.
tim pool
I have a general... How do you phrase this?
Loathing for Hollywood.
You know, just for a lot of reasons.
We were talking about this the other night, like, where are all the good movies?
Joker was the one we came up with right away.
And now that we have Brett here, we could probably ask Brett.
We were asking, name like a real masterpiece of a film that you think is really good that people will remember.
And I'm like, Groundhog Day is a masterpiece, but what do we have like that?
And then we were like, Joker was really good.
Joker was incredible.
brett dasovic
The problem is most of the movies that come out, like my main way of judging a movie now is like, would I watch it again?
Like that's the real way.
And most of them, the answer is no.
I didn't find any of the movies that came out this year to be particularly awful.
I just found them for the most part to be very forgettable on average, which isn't always awful.
Like for me, a lot of it is like going to the theater, right?
The ability to go to a theater and be enthralled in the experience as you're watching it, that's big for me, so I give a lot more leeway.
tim pool
But since 2010, has there been a movie where you're like, that's Groundhog Day level?
You know what I mean?
brett dasovic
Since 2010?
kevin sorbo
Yeah, there was a couple that Clint Eastwood, I liked American Sniper, I thought that was an unbelievable movie.
tim pool
Sound of Freedom, obviously.
Sound of Freedom was really good, and the intro, I'm just like, it's genuinely really, really good.
The beginning, I guess everyone's seen it at this point, with the father, and going to his kids, and you actually see that narrative of how they steal children.
In the movie Up, you get that first 10 minutes that's really, really good.
Where, you know, him and his wife and they grow old together.
That was the best short film of my lifetime, but the rest of the movie is just garbled nonsense.
brett dasovic
Most of my favorite movies are prior to 2010.
tim pool
But with A Sound of Freedom, that first 10 minutes is emotionally as jarring.
It's, you know, watching that scene where the dad loses his kids, man.
But let's read some more.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Tim, I don't know if souls are a real thing, but there's no doubt the fake sack-grown babies will not have one.
If souls make us human, what will they be?
Yeah, so the FDA was meeting, I believe it was today, to determine whether or not it is ethical to grow humans in bags.
They're called bio-bags.
And they're saying to start, what they would do is premature babies would be placed into these bags to be artificially, you know, gestated.
Until they're healthy.
And then eventually, we would just grow babies in bags.
I think it's nightmarishly dystopian.
kevin sorbo
Wow.
Yes, it's a little creepy.
Very creepy.
ian crossland
I think they'll still have souls.
kevin sorbo
Yes.
tim pool
Thomas Sidebottom says, would you kindly shout out my new son, Peter Robert.
He's on his sixth day in this world and I'm on my fourth hour of sleep in that time, but I wouldn't trade him for the world, to borrow a phrase, forward the line.
Congratulations, good sir, Thomas Sidebottom, and shout out to the newly birthed Peter Robert.
Welcome to Earth.
unidentified
Nice job.
tim pool
By the firesides, as Oliver Anthony is a booking agent, he just moved a show to a bigger venue a day earlier due to high ticket sales.
Now on a Thursday, many fans are asking for a refund since they can't attend.
kevin sorbo
So speaking of books, can I plug mine?
tim pool
Yeah, I should.
ian crossland
What is it?
kevin sorbo
It's called The Test of Linehood, okay?
I don't know if you guys remember when Kirk Cameron came in on his book and people were bashing him to go to libraries and wouldn't let him come in and read his book.
unidentified
Yeah.
kevin sorbo
Because they'd rather have drag queens read it than seven and eight year old kids.
And his book was just a nice little kid's book.
My book deals with what I've seen going on for a long time, this emasculation of men in movies and television shows.
You look at all the sitcoms through the decades, the dad's always kind of fat and out of shape, the mom's a babe, the teenage kids just make fun of dad.
He's a pincushion for everybody.
Homer Simpson.
Well, that's a good example, but I can name other real shows, real actors.
I'm not going to name them.
But no, it's just out there.
And movies always portray men as wimps.
Women now are the ones with the big superstars, the superheroes.
They save the day.
The men can't do anything.
And so this book really is about letting boys be boys in the world we live in today.
Stop telling boys that they, you know, help them become men, strong men,
strong fathers down the road.
And this book doesn't bash any race or gender.
It's just a movie.
It's just a book about a line cut named Lucas that goes into the woods with his two little sisters.
They're playing out there all the time.
His little sister gets cut by a very poisonous plant that he knows about.
He can't get back to his dad in time because he knows that his sister's gonna die.
He's got to get past his insecurities and his fear and find courage to go up the mountain and get this one flower that will save her life.
It's just a great kids movie.
Go to bravebooks.com.
Bravebooks.com.
They do wonderful movies for 4 to 12 year olds.
brett dasovic
I do believe that's why Top Gun Maverick resonated with so many people because it had been so long since anybody had seen it.
At the end of the movie, it's like the guy gets the girl and drives off into the sunset on a motorcycle.
It's like, welcome back to the 80s!
This rules!
And it did so well!
kevin sorbo
It was the number one movie that year.
brett dasovic
And actually, what didn't do well was Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning, but that movie was also 20 minutes too long.
kevin sorbo
Well, I gotta give Tom Cruise credit, it was too long, but I mean, a lot of the movies he does, you kind of gotta go, maybe he's left-leaning, I don't know, but he keeps a pretty even keel and puts out really good entertaining.
brett dasovic
It's amazing.
unidentified
And in that movie, that movie did exactly what... Jack Reacher, great movie.
brett dasovic
Oh, and not just him, but the TV show Reacher from 2021 was unbelievably good.
But one of the reasons why I liked Dead Reckoning so much is it did exactly what Indiana Jones failed to do, which was introduce a female character played by Hayley Atwell that is actually incorporated into the movie really, really well without emasculating his character.
kevin sorbo
Exactly.
tim pool
Alright, let's read some more.
We got T-Rex Pet Shop.
He says, Mind if we join you in Anti-Times Square?
I've been thinking of putting a pet vending machine there and eventually open a full store if it goes well.
Please do.
The opportunity is readily available for our public square, if that's the way I'm calling it.
And you're all welcome to join us in Martinsburg, West Virginia.
That's where we'll be headed.
And hopefully it works out.
Justin Hutter says, I named my character Seamus in Starfield.
Suddenly my inventory was full of stolen utensils.
Conspiracy?
You see the Starfield video with the potatoes?
There's a video that went viral where they were showing the physics and a guy opens a door and a bunch of potatoes fall out because they were like, look how amazing the physics in this game are.
I'm still playing Baldur's Gate 3.
I'm having a blast.
It's a fun game.
ian crossland
Do you get into video games much?
kevin sorbo
I do not.
My kids do.
Big time, big time.
ian crossland
The conflicts of movies and video games are coming together where you're going to be the main character in a VR reality.
kevin sorbo
They make more money than movies do.
brett dasovic
Also, if you're looking for a good movie that did come out this year, the movie Gran Turismo was really, really, really good.
You don't see a lot of sports movies these days.
kevin sorbo
I know of it, haven't seen it yet.
brett dasovic
It was very, very good.
I would recommend people take a chance and go see that one.
tim pool
Alright, Craig Comedy says, I started a food vending business in Gold Dam Brewing.
Kevin was a silent partner in the brewery.
Also, resume says- It's true!
Right on!
We've got a lot of Super Chats where they're just people saying that they absolutely love you.
Grofty says, you were a childhood hero and you always will be.
kevin sorbo
Very kind.
tim pool
Man, so I was saying before the show, I'm a little kid.
I would turn on Saturday morning cartoons.
kevin sorbo
This one makes me old.
You were seven when we started filming.
tim pool
Yeah.
kevin sorbo
You were seven years old.
tim pool
So I would turn on like, I mean, what was I watching when I was like seven, eight, or nine?
Static Shock and Pokemon.
But then Sunday, they wouldn't have cartoons.
Hercules would be playing.
So then I'd just wake up in the morning, it's the weekend, and I'd be watching Hercules.
You know what?
kevin sorbo
Go ahead.
tim pool
I was going to say Outer Limits when I was a little kid.
kevin sorbo
Oh, I loved Outer Limits.
Freaked me out.
When I was in college, it was 1030 was reruns of Twilight Zone, 11 o'clock was reruns of Star Trek.
So if my parents call me around that time, I'm busy.
I'm studying really hard right now.
But that was like a big thing for me to do.
And I absolutely just, I loved those days.
I loved being a part of the Star Trek family.
I've got to tell you, it was awesome.
ian crossland
Dude, sci-fi.
kevin sorbo
Yeah.
brett dasovic
Also, is it true that you were a runner-up to play Superman?
kevin sorbo
Dean Cain, here's the thing.
I originally got the role.
Oh my goodness!
24 hours later, they called me up and they gave it to Dean.
unidentified
Dean Cain stole your role.
kevin sorbo
But here's the thing, here's the thing.
Three months later, I got the Hercules role.
brett dasovic
There you go.
kevin sorbo
So, I like to tell Dean, you know my show, when Seven Years became the most watched show in the world, your show got canned after three seasons.
unidentified
So I'm pretty happy.
kevin sorbo
Dean's a great guy.
I've known Dean a long time.
ian crossland
Lois and Clark, that show.
kevin sorbo
Epic.
ian crossland
And Terry Hatcher.
kevin sorbo
She played my wife.
We did a three show arc on Supergirl about five years ago.
brett dasovic
I still can't believe that they had you on Supergirl given the political stuff.
kevin sorbo
You know what's interesting?
That one of the producers, 30-year-old producer, she says, now your character, Kevin, is the most evil person in the universe.
Think Donald Trump.
No way!
Okay, so, you probably know more than I do, but, so, is Trump more, I mean, has he killed more people than Hitler?
I'm just curious.
Maybe you know more about history than I do.
Is he worse than Pol Pot or worse than Stalin?
I started naming those people.
I just kept waiting, you know, and she just kind of glared at me.
tim pool
And they kept you on!
kevin sorbo
You found out later that where I stood pretty quickly.
She's got a Karl Marx poster behind her.
She was fearful of me the rest of time because, you know, I'm kryptonite to Hollywood.
tim pool
How did you end up getting that role though?
kevin sorbo
I have no idea.
They just called me up and said, you know, we want you for this role.
Who knows?
tim pool
I think money talks.
kevin sorbo
And so one of the issues is... Well, they know that they're going to get more eyeballs on it if I'm on it.
tim pool
Bang.
That bringing you in on this show is going to get all the millennials and everyone to be like, yo!
And they needed that.
This is my point about building culture.
All of these people who act like they're woke and they support these causes, they don't care.
They're just saying whatever they think they need to say, especially in Hollywood, so they can get the roles and fit in.
We take that power away, we buy tickets to your movie, we go see Sound of Freedom, eventually these people will stop talking.
kevin sorbo
Can I tell you that every movie I've been doing over the last like six, seven years, I get, whether it's an actor, a camera guy, lighting guy, come up and say quietly, like a drug deal's going on, say, dude, thanks for being a voice for us.
I say, be a voice for yourself.
tim pool
Yes.
kevin sorbo
This is the problem.
Well, I don't want to get blacklisted like you.
You know what?
They're not calling me for big movies anymore, but I'm still doing independent movies.
Here you are on the set of my movie, you know, so you still work, but you're right.
Hollywood will never call me in again for anything big on TV or movies, which is fine.
tim pool
How do they think Hollywood got started?
Do they think that Hollywood was started by guys who are on the East Coast?
kevin sorbo
Hollywood was very conservative when it first started.
Warner Brothers, Warner movie studio? Totally, totally. But it's not just that, it's that they were bucking the system.
tim pool
It's that they were excised. They went to the far reaches of the middle of nowhere where they could do the work they
wanted to do.
The idea that there are people who are saying, I want to suckle the teat of the gigantic, decrepit machine,
instead of saying, I would rather get on a boat, travel for three months with a 20% chance of dying on the way there
to land on a barren shore and build a house in the middle of the woods than live in your crackpot town.
Those are the pioneers who came to this country.
That means if you want to fight for what you believe in, they should be saying, I'd rather work for you and get paid less than work for Hollywood because they suck.
Let's get it.
Go see Miracle in East Texas.
ian crossland
Are you happier since you went independent?
kevin sorbo
Oh, heck yeah.
I love the movies I'm doing right now.
I never, you know, I've been there a long time.
Look, I had huge success with Hercules and Andromeda, two huge shows.
And then I had about five years of doing movies within the Hollywood system.
And then when this happened, I said, fine, I know enough people in the business.
I got a lot of, you know, I can shoot anywhere in America.
I can put a crew together.
So I have no problem with that.
tim pool
What is this?
Let's read some more.
Hadro says, Hey, Tim, Fallout 3 remaster is confirmed.
Is that is that true?
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tim pool
Oblivion and Fallout 3 remastered IGN.
Oh wow, I'm super excited for that.
ian crossland
I want Morrowind Remake.
tim pool
I mean, I don't care about the graphics.
The game is awesome.
But, uh, it depends on what they do with the remaster.
I don't like Mothership Zeta, though.
Was that what it was called?
The expansion in Fallout?
I didn't care for the aliens.
ian crossland
Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
I don't know the name of it.
Yeah.
tim pool
Nolanbuzz says, Will they arrest the D.C.
Metro Police who were in plain clothes chanting, Go!
unidentified
Go!
ian crossland
Go!
tim pool
body camera footage?
Rep Higgins said there were feds dressed in MAGA gear pre-staged inside the Capitol before it was breached.
Wow, what a representative said that.
I know about the cops saying, Go!
ian crossland
Go!
unidentified
Go!
tim pool
and things like that.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Bender the Offender says, Tim, do you think wages will ever catch up to the rates of inflation?
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
It depends.
If we transition to a hydrogen-based fuel economy, we might be able to balance things out.
tim pool
Oh, I don't bet.
I mean, no.
It is good if we implement newer and better forms of technology, fusion, hydrogen cell, whatever.
ian crossland
Fuel, yeah, fuel.
tim pool
But that's not going to change that the Fed is going to break it to extract from it so that they can wage war, you know, is what it is.
Alright, Jimmy Jo says, Kevin, I've worked 25 plus years in showbiz.
I've had to keep my head down and mouth shut all this time.
Where can I send a resume?
kevin sorbo
SorboStudios.com SorboStudios.com, check it out.
tim pool
Here's what happens, okay?
When Miracle in East Texas sells out in every theater, And Sorbo Studios makes a ton of fat, cold, hard cash.
They start hiring all of you, bringing you into new movies, expanding the business, and then Hollywood starts crying, saying, oh no, why did we ever get rid of this guy?
He's a superstar and now we're losing money.
And then we tell them, you're dicks.
We're not gonna do business with you anymore.
There you go.
kevin sorbo
That's how you win.
I'm getting hit up here a lot.
A lot of people that like me and follow me, Follow you.
tim pool
Oh, right on, man.
I'm glad to hear it.
kevin sorbo
Scott Rudd here.
Caught you on Timcast tonight.
Great show.
You've got a great voice for Christian conservative content.
God is gifted you to be a mouthpiece for his kingdom.
Kingdom, hit me up if you need a place to film.
tim pool
Is Miracle in East Texas, it is a faith film?
kevin sorbo
It's loosely based on faith, but it's not like, it's like Blindside.
You remember Blindside?
People have, okay, there was a movie with Sander Bullock.
carter banks
The football player guy.
unidentified
That's in the news now.
kevin sorbo
It's in the news because he's saying now.
But anyway, it was a movie that if you, a person of faith who wasn't a great faith family, a Christian family in Texas, took on that black kid, he went on to become the Hall of Fame football player.
True story.
So, people of non-faith said, no, that was a great football story.
So, it's in there, but it's not like a better-believe-in-Jesus movie.
It's a movie that everybody can see, and you'll just enjoy it for the true story that it is.
And you'll laugh, trust me.
tim pool
For that matter, I watched The Passion for the first time a couple months ago.
kevin sorbo
Pretty intense.
tim pool
And I recommend it for a lot of people, especially if you're not religious, because of the historical... Well, that's just it.
Right.
kevin sorbo
Every atheist that, you know, I did a documentary with John Lennox.
He's an apologist from Oxford University.
I highly recommend it.
It's called Against the Tide.
He has debated all the great atheists of the world, from Singer to Dawkins, Hitchens, all these guys.
They don't deny that Jesus wasn't a man that lived on this world.
They do not deny that.
So the history is there.
It's pretty fascinating.
tim pool
For me, so I believe in God.
I'm not a Christian.
I watch this and I I thought it was a great film.
It's depicting actual history.
So I started looking these stories up.
What was it, Barabbas the Murderer?
I'm probably getting the name wrong.
kevin sorbo
Yes, yes.
tim pool
And these things I should have learned when I was at the Catholic school and I was like, oh wow.
kevin sorbo
There were pilots who said, which of these two people should I save and which do you want crucified?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
And so I started looking up history books and it was like, oh yeah, all that happened.
The Christians just believed Jesus was the Son of God.
Outside of that, it's all true.
kevin sorbo
I'll tell you what, I do a trip every year to Israel.
I host 80 people.
If you want to go to Israel, And anybody out there, you could be a trip of a lifetime, it could be a bucket list thing, go to sorboisraeltrip.com.
That's sorboisraeltrip.com and check it out.
You guys will absolutely, it's an amazing journey into Israel.
I've shot two documentaries there as well.
What do you do when you go there?
You see everything.
I got three amazing guides that bring us along in two different buses and it's just unbelievable the stuff you'll see.
I've been there five times now.
tim pool
Let's read some more.
What do we got?
unidentified
Uh, let's see.
tim pool
Papo Naya says, literally every day I have to manually search for this show.
No cap!
No cap!
unidentified
Wow!
tim pool
Well, that means it, you know?
That's how we know it's true.
A lot of people, uh, here's the crazy thing.
It's one thing if the show, if you watch every night and it doesn't appear on your homepage, because it should.
The algorithm should be like, hey, this is a show you like.
But there are people who say that they'll go to our YouTube channel at the time of the show and it's not there.
Even though we are live, because we don't miss shows.
However, there's also TimCast.com.
We always embed the player automatically on the top of the homepage,
as well as Pop Culture Crisis.
We got a couple new shows we're launching very soon.
We got the skate show, we're gonna be skating tomorrow and filming.
And then we're doing a, um...
Weird and Wild Conspiracy Mystery and Unsolved Mysteries show.
It's coming up soon.
Really excited for that one.
Supposed to be a year ago, but man, anybody who's run a business where they had to do construction, they're probably sitting at home laughing, being like, ah, this poor young guy thought he was going to build a studio and get it all done years later.
ian crossland
It's like we're in new territory.
Can we imagine?
Yeah.
tim pool
What do we got?
We got some super chats here.
Dustin Weiser says, thank you for teaching us strength as Hercules and proving strength holding onto your convictions.
kevin sorbo
Very cool.
tim pool
Absolutely, right on.
Let's see, Scott Jeffers says, I've heard Kevin say a few movies he's been in after he's been exposed as a conservative.
Where can I find these movies and support?
kevin sorbo
I got that in my mind.
SorboStudios.com.
Everything's there.
All my movies are there.
You can get signed copy from me if you want from me.
My books are there.
I got True Strength and I got True Faith.
Two wonderful books and I got this one, of course.
But yeah, SorboStudios.com is a good place to go.
ian crossland
Were you, like, raised in a religious family, or did you find that?
kevin sorbo
I was.
No, I was.
I've been kind of Christian all my life.
I haven't led a perfect life.
There's no doubt about that.
But I don't go out and say I'm better than anybody else.
It's always been part of me.
I look at this and go, guys, who made this table, right?
Somebody made it, right?
Yeah, that's right.
Somebody made it.
It wasn't you.
It wasn't me.
It started somewhere.
I don't have all the answers, but I look up at the stars and go, okay, guys, this didn't just happen.
Something caused it to happen.
tim pool
This table was three different pieces of wood that were brought in through, I think, the window.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Because they're long.
kevin sorbo
Well, it's big.
tim pool
Yep.
And then it weighs like a thousand pounds, I think.
kevin sorbo
I believe it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And I was worried about the floor.
I'm like, no, you're fine.
ian crossland
Something's causing it to happen right now.
It's appearing.
kevin sorbo
It just appeared.
ian crossland
What is causing the vibrations or the fluctuations or the spin?
I don't know what or why.
tim pool
People don't realize how big the table is because when you're watching from the cameras you only see us and the cameras are showing you and the cameras are zoomed in so people will walk in the studio for the first time they go whoa it's huge and I'm like yeah it's like well I huge.
kevin sorbo
It's gotta be what 18 feet long or so?
ian crossland
Uh... 18 by 6?
kevin sorbo
Yeah, that's a little more.
18 by 8, I think.
It's big.
tim pool
No, it's like 18 by 5, I think.
It might be.
kevin sorbo
No, that's more than 5.
5 feet?
tim pool
Yeah, you're right, you're right.
carter banks
It's like a whole wingspan.
tim pool
But maybe, I don't think it's exactly 6 feet.
kevin sorbo
It's big, though.
tim pool
It might be 6 feet.
Yeah, it might be 6 by 18 or something.
I could weigh it down.
The room itself is, I think it's 35 by 16 or something like that.
kevin sorbo
That'd be about right.
tim pool
Yeah, 35 by 16.
People come in and they're like, wow, it's so much bigger than I thought.
ian crossland
It's so much more gigantic.
tim pool
What do we have here?
Let's uh... Terrence Max says, Kevin touched my elbow once at Comic Con in Montreal in 2007 and it was the best day of my life.
kevin sorbo
I remember that moment.
ian crossland
Have you found, like, your fans, do you give them, like, a word of kindness, and it can completely change the direction?
unidentified
Oh, yeah!
kevin sorbo
When I do Comic-Cons, I love the fans.
I mean, without fans, we don't got a career.
And people have been so nice to me at these Comic-Cons.
But here, once again, the cancel culture comes in, right?
This woke stuff.
I mean, I was supposed to do two Comic-Cons in...
And last November in Australia, and I've been there three times, and the Australian fans have been huge supporters, huge fans.
I got banned to come there because they got 10 emails from fans saying, if he shows up, we're going to riot.
Wow.
And I said, you have 50,000 people coming there.
I'm not worried about it.
These people probably aren't even going to come to the con regardless.
And you're going to let them control me being able to come out and have a good time?
And they did.
They wouldn't let me come out.
tim pool
Let's read one more.
We got Vexkin Kilrod says, if I remember right, Andromeda was supposed to be set in the Star Trek universe.
Is that true?
kevin sorbo
Um, it was, it was all I know is a Star Trek show created by Gene Roddenberry.
It wasn't really in the Star Trek universe because it was supposed to be thousands of years into the, I think it was like 8,000 years beyond Star Trek.
But so, so theoretically it is in the same... Yeah, yeah, because it was Gene Roddenberry.
So it was certainly part of it.
tim pool
They could have, they could have.
ian crossland
Was it a legal thing?
They couldn't use the name or something?
kevin sorbo
No, I think he just came up with a different name for a different show at that time.
tim pool
And I think, too, it probably gave him contractual, like, Star Trek's probably got rights and ownership.
kevin sorbo
It was a huge mistake for Paramount to take that off, but back then you only had three states.
Well, you had PBS, but you had ABC, CBS, and NBC.
If you're not pulling in roughly 30%, they're getting 25% rating.
Nothing gets 25% today.
So there was a big mistake to get rid of that show.
tim pool
Alright everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com to watch the members-only uncensored show, which will be up in a few minutes, and you as members, you can submit questions, call into the show, it's going to be a lot of fun.
You can follow the show at TimCastIRL, you can follow me personally at TimCast.
Kevin, do you want to shout anything out?
kevin sorbo
Once again, SorboStudios.com for everything Kevin Sorbo.
Go there, support movie, The Miracle in East Texas.
Information is on there, and Brave Books is on there, and all my movies and books are on there.
So, SorboStudios.com, great place to go.
brett dasovic
Right on.
Actually, before we go, I have to make a correction on something I said earlier.
The Cardi B thing I was wrong about, and she's actually sued someone.
For that before so she's about being a hooker like she's that's not something that's been proven.
She was never a hooker.
So that was a misspeak on my part.
She there is there is the her admitting to doing the the drugging and robbing of men, but she was not okay.
And so she actually won a lawsuit.
So I have to make that.
tim pool
Oh, wait, wait.
So so wait, wait.
So in what context was she drugging and robbing men?
brett dasovic
Uh, I could pull the story up right now, but I just want to say, somebody had been sued for that before, so I apologize.
kevin sorbo
Didn't they do a movie about that?
brett dasovic
I don't know.
I don't know, but this is my mea culpa, so this is my fault.
tim pool
But isn't, isn't, isn't Cardi B, Cardi B like saying good things about, hasn't she been fairly based on certain issues?
kevin sorbo
I don't know.
brett dasovic
Yeah, she's like defending people's rights and stuff.
I got no beef.
tim pool
Oh, was she?
brett dasovic
She's like defending people's rights and stuff. I mean, I got no be Nicki Minaj was doing that
But yeah, like so that was a misspeak on my part So I apologize people were saying people are sending me a
message about it She won a lawsuit for like an Excel. I mean amount of money
for that So I just well just to make sure we're clear that she wasn't
selling her body. She was just drugging and robbing guys I was I misspoke so I do apologize. So that's my fault guys
If you want to follow me you can follow me on Instagram and twix at Brett Dastavid
tim pool
You don't go through those platforms. You don't have to worry about it because the actual malice standard applies
You have to, in order to fame somebody as a public figure, you have to knowingly have lied about them.
And if people are reading these stories, we mean no ill will.
brett dasovic
Yes, I misspoke.
But also, Pop Culture Crisis is here Monday through Friday, 3pm Eastern Standard Time.
That is noon Pacific.
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kevin sorbo
And I gotta get my Twitter in there, KSORBS.
Go to KSORBS, K-S-O-R-B-S, because Facebook put me down.
But I'm very funny with my sarcastic truth on Twitter, on X. I'm Ian Crossland.
ian crossland
Great to meet you, Kevin.
Awesome night.
kevin sorbo
Pleasure.
ian crossland
Wonderful to hear about your career and talk about the industry.
Man, I love hearing about it.
Thank you.
You guys can follow me at Ian Crossland anywhere on the internet.
There it is behind me.
And check out at TimCast.com.
Go over on the left down to CastCastleVlog.
Check out the most recent episode.
Raymond G. Comey Jr.
I always say that again.
Raymond G. Comey Jr.
That's the name of the episode.
Check it out.
Carter Banks, talk us out.
carter banks
What's up, guys?
Kevin, it was a pleasure having you on.
kevin sorbo
Thank you, sir.
carter banks
I feel like I just watched the whole show just right here with pressing buttons in real time.
Enjoy filling in for Serge.
Yeah, you can follow me at Carter Banks on Twitter, follow TimCastMusic at TimCastSongs on YouTube, and that's all I got for now.
tim pool
All right, everybody, we will see you all over at TimCast.com for the members-only show.
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