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Timcast IRL - Russell Brand Conspiracy PROVEN TRUE, UK GOV CAUGHT Targeting Him w/Harrison Smith
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tim pool
So typically, when there's a conspiracy theory, it takes a few months, maybe a couple years, before it turns out that it was true.
The media will debunk it, they'll claim.
They'll say it's debunked!
And the story's fake!
So Russell Brand gets kicked off all these TV shows, they remove all his content, he gets accused of serious impropriety, is one way to put it.
And then YouTube demonetizes his channel, even though he didn't break any rules.
And there are a lot of people saying, I think there's an agenda against Russell Brandt for some reason.
Some people are citing this interview that he had on Bill Maher where he's talking about big pharmaceutical companies.
And I think this is the fastest a conspiracy theory has been proven true.
Because we now have Rumble releasing a letter from the UK government trying to get Russell Brand demonetized on Rumble.
We also have a letter that was sent to TikTok as well.
So let me just put it simply, the UK government is trying to strip the money from Russell Brand.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
So, conspiracy confirmed?
Well, geez, that was fast!
Wow.
I thought that one was gonna take a few, you know, they'd cancel him, we'd forget all about it, two years would go by, and they'd be like, oh, by the way, that was us, and we'd be like, oh, wow, the government really did go after him in that way.
No, we got that story, we'll talk about it.
We got Ray Epps pleading guilty, we got big breaking news, an emergency declaration out of Eagle Pass, Texas, because thousands of migrants are storming into the country, and guess what?
The emergency declaration?
It's not to stop the illegal immigrants.
It's to help them.
The emergency declaration gets them extra funding so they can assist these individuals as they illegally enter the country.
We're gonna talk about all that.
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harrison smith
Hello.
tim pool
Who are you?
What do you do?
harrison smith
I'm Harrison Smith.
I host the American Journal on InfoWars.com.
It's the morning show, the lead-in to Alex Jones.
So, InfoWars.com, band.video.
tim pool
Right on.
Thanks for hanging out.
We've got Chef Gruhl here as well.
andrew gruel
Alright, good time.
Chef Andrew Gruhl.
I'm America's Chef, owner of AmericanGravy.com and everything food-related.
tim pool
And it was actually just good fortune.
Chef Gruhl's out here to help us with our idea for building physical parallel economic brick-and-mortar stores.
We're talking about this anti-Times Square.
So, you know, you guys were watching.
We had Terrence Williams and he's like, we need Chef Gruhl.
And I'm like, we'll bring him out here.
And so here he is.
And we were talking earlier, really excited.
Maybe we'll get into a little bit about, you know, what we hope to accomplish, but should be fun.
Thanks for hanging out, man.
andrew gruel
Thanks for having me.
phil labonte
We got Phil!
tim pool
Hello!
phil labonte
I am Phil Abate, lead singer of All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
What's up, Carter?
carter banks
What's up, Phil?
I'm Carter.
Usually I'm in my studio making music, but today I'm filming for Surge, and let's get into it.
tim pool
Here's the first story from the post-millennial.
Ladies and gentlemen, the conspiracy theory has been proven true in, what is this, five days?
It's like five days since they accused Russell Brand and started going after all of his financials, trying to get him banned from everything.
And then you get NBC and a bunch of these outlets saying, conspiracy theorists think that there's an agenda against Russell Brand.
And then a few days later, UK Parliament sends letters to social media platforms demanding demonetization.
unidentified
What does it say?
tim pool
Demonization?
Is it demonization?
unidentified
Yeah, come on, come on, come on post-millennial.
tim pool
I always make fun of them.
Demonetization of Russell Brand.
But I guess demonization works too.
phil labonte
It's similar.
tim pool
Demonization.
Although it may be politically correct and socially easier for Rumble to join a cancel culture mob, doing so would be a violation of our company's values and mission.
So we have this tweet from Mario Nawfal.
This is the Culture, Media, and Sports Committee of the House of Commons.
Sent a letter to TikTok.
Saying, while we recognize TikTok is not the creator of the content published by Mr. Brand, and his content may be within the community guidelines set up by the platforms, we are concerned that he may be able to profit from his content on the platforms.
Holy what, dude?
Confirmed!
Conspiracy against Russell Brand!
I'm just really excited for this.
We have a very quick confirmation of a government conspiracy against Russell Brand.
unidentified
Wait, hold on.
tim pool
Here's the Rumble tweet.
Because Rumble is awesome.
They of course released this with a statement saying...
Today we received an extremely disturbing letter from a committee chair in the UK Parliament.
While Rumble obviously deplores sexual assault, rape, and all serious crimes, and believes that both alleged victims and the accused are entitled to full and serious investigation, it is vital to note that the recent allegations against Russell Brand have nothing to do with content on Rumble's platform.
Just yesterday, YouTube announced that based solely on these media accusations, it was barring Mr. Brand from monetizing his video content.
Rumble stands for very different values.
We have devoted ourselves to the vital cause of defending a free internet, meaning an internet where no one arbitrarily dictates which ideas can or cannot be heard, or which citizens may or may not be entitled to a platform.
We regard it as deeply inappropriate and dangerous that the UK Parliament would attempt to control who is allowed to speak on our platform or to earn a living from doing so.
Singling out an individual and demanding his ban is even more disturbing, given the absence of any connection between the allegations and his content on Rumble.
We don't agree with the behavior of many Rumble creators, but we refuse to penalize them for actions that have nothing to do with our platform.
Although it may be politically and socially easier for Rumble to join a cancel culture mob, doing so would be a violation of our company's values and mission.
We emphatically reject the UK Parliament's demands.
And here we have this letter.
to Chris Pevlovsky, the CEO of Rumble, saying, I am writing concerning the serious allegations regarding
Russell Brand in the context of his being a content producer on Rumble with more than 1.4
million followers. The Culture, Media, and Sports Committee is raising questions with the broadcasters
and production companies who previously employed Mr. Brand to examine both the culture
of the industry in the past and whether that culture still prevails today. That is to say, they
have outright admitted the UK government is reaching out to other networks, asking them to remove
Russell Russell Brand and take away his income because he was accused.
Allegations from a decade to two decades ago.
This is amazing.
They say, they said, we are also looking at the use of social media, including on Rumble, where he issued his preemptive response to the accusations made against him by the Sunday Times and Channel 4 Dispatches.
While we recognize that Rumble is not the creator of the content published by Mr. Brand, we are concerned that he may be able to profit from his content on the platform.
Think about what they're saying right here.
The UK government is outright saying, If you commit any crime ever, you should not be allowed to live at all.
What does Russell Brand do for a living?
He's a personality.
He's an actor.
He communicates.
He talks.
They take his shows down.
They try to take his podcasts down.
YouTube actually demonetizes his show.
They're basically saying he should not be allowed to make a living anymore for any reason, even though he's never been convicted of a crime.
Or I should say, I don't know if he's been convicted of any crime, but in this instance, he's only been accused.
harrison smith
Well, and he hasn't even been accused on a criminal level, right?
It was just the article that came out.
I mean, it's a pure... There is an investigation.
Oh, is it?
But because of the article, right?
Right.
And it seems like, especially with things like YouTube, it seems like... I mean, we're in the age of the open conspiracy, essentially, at this point, where YouTube is sitting there going, man, we really wish we could kick Russell Brand off, but we can't just do it outright.
If only somebody came out with an article, nudge, nudge, hint, hint.
And so they're just working in this almost reciprocal way.
And I mean, you know, Rumble says we're fighting for free speech on the Internet.
That age is rapidly ending.
We have the EU Digital Services Act, the UK Parliament just passed the, what is it, the online safety bill, which, ironically, when it was in draft form, was presided over by the same woman that sent this letter, Caroline Deningidge, or whatever her name is.
So, yeah, it's coming to an end pretty rapidly, this whole free speech thing we've been enjoying so long.
tim pool
Well, I mean, this is the UK.
I think we have to remain steadfast, but I think we're doing a really good job in the US as it pertains to the boycotts and the boycotts.
The fact that Rumble exists shows that we have started to push back and we're gaining ground.
Russell Brand?
They can't take away his money.
Because Rumble said no.
Everyone else bends the knee, but I love the precedent set by YouTube.
So what?
Now all anyone has to do to terminate someone's account is just accuse them?
Or have someone accuse them?
phil labonte
I mean, this is all awful, sufficiently horrifying for me to be like, alright, we need to completely isolate social media from governments.
this is something that we've been aware of or we the Twitter files have shown that there are governments
interested in accessing the power and influence that comes from social
media to think that you know other governments aren't doing it with you know,
Just because the US has has been exposed and there's supposed to be
Efforts being to undertaken to prevent it doesn't mean that other countries aren't going to try to apply the same
pressure and it's for Essentially the same things they're looking to end
The liberty to speak your mind and say things that are controversial
You've got that Jacinda, I forget what her last name is, the Prime Minister of New Zealand, specifically coming out and saying things that 15 years ago, if you said publicly, you'd have gotten excoriated for.
You would have been thrown right into the bin with Stalin, Hitler, and all the other authoritarians, Pol Pot, whatever, all of them.
And now it's looked at as something that people have become so numb to the efforts at limiting what you're allowed to say and what you can't say, that these kinds of behaviors from governments, you know, only the alternative media seems to take issue with it.
And it's a big problem, and obviously we're all pretty much here in agreement, and I'm thankful that Rumble did what they did.
But this speaks to the attitude of governments, and it's not just the United States government, it's governments across the Western world.
harrison smith
Yeah, I just don't think social media, I don't think this is an imposition on social media.
I think social media is happy to go along with it and actually happy to have the excuse to ban the people that they wanted to ban in the first place.
phil labonte
I agree 100% and the reason there are people that are out there that are going to say, oh, you know, it's because of money.
It's not because of money.
It's because of access.
Because if they do what the government wants, then the government becomes friendly with them.
And that's power.
It's beyond money because Google doesn't need money.
tim pool
Well, it is access to a certain degree.
There's also fear.
If you're a company, say you're an email service provider, or maybe you're a tech company, and some guys in black suits show up to your office, and they start going like, You know, we need your help taking out the terrorists, if you know what I'm saying.
Otherwise, things could get messy for you.
It's basically what they do.
harrison smith
Yeah, and that's almost exactly the tone of that letter that they sent.
Because they don't say, demonetize Russell Brand.
They say, we're awful concerned that he may be making money.
You would hate to have that on your conscience, wouldn't you?
Yeah, it's a mafia style shakedown.
phil labonte
Absolutely.
andrew gruel
How long before they shut Rumble down?
That's the question.
Or attempt to.
Obviously Rumble, you know, I think back to Parler.
Remember what happened with Parler?
Thank God Rumble has built the infrastructure necessary to be able to broadcast him.
How long before they attempt in some capacity?
Because now it's Rumble and perhaps Twitter against the government's behavior.
tim pool
I don't want to make the joke that I need to make, so I just can't, I can't, but...
Let's just say that there are a series of attempts to assassinate the characters of key individuals who are playing vital roles, and it seems like their only strategy with now Tim Ballard is being accused.
It's like, here's a guy who's married, has nine kids, and they're like, I'll accuse him too!
And it's just like, oh, come on!
Like, Russell Brand, you have people being like, well, he was a promiscuous guy.
I mean, man, this could be true.
I hope it's not.
And then you have people, they're accusing Tim Ballard, and it's like, oh, come on!
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Like the dude who's halfway around the world hunting down child traffickers had time to go and get out of here with this stuff.
phil labonte
It's ridiculous.
andrew gruel
But then you got Howard Stern out there saying the most outlandish things and he can't get canceled.
Forever.
He even said today, it was the headline, I am woke.
Yeah.
I am woke.
phil labonte
I mean, he literally just, he might as well have said, please don't cancel me.
I will lay down and I will kiss the boot.
I will put the whole soul right in my mouth.
I mean, it is embarrassing, But when you have the history that Howard Stern does, you're left with few options, because all it takes is someone getting their hair across their ass, and they're going to come after you, and you have just more evidence than you could ever possibly deflect from.
tim pool
Here's the best thing about Rumble.
Rumble has a payment processor.
They have their own servers.
They have their own hosting.
They are building out everything they need so that they cannot remove them.
Now what they did with Parler was a coordinated blocking of it from a bunch of different app stores.
These tactics aren't working.
It worked for Parler, sure, and then Rumble pops up.
phil labonte
Everyone learned what happened because everyone knew that Amazon messed with their servers or whatever.
tim pool
They shut down Parler on false reasons.
They basically said that January Sixers were using it or whatever and it's like they used Facebook more than they used Parler.
And then Elon Musk buys Twitter and turns it into X, and they're freaking out, screaming, and just losing.
Look, you know, shout out to Elon Musk for buying the platform and building it.
Now they're running this, I don't know if you guys saw, this lie that Elon Musk wants to charge all users, which was not what happened.
And they're using that to just, like, they are spreading this propaganda because they're trying to get people to leave Twitter so they can regain control of the narrative.
The real story was that Elon said something to the effect of the only way to deal with all the bots would be if you were to charge everyone like a small fee, which, you know, we're trying to figure out how to deal with.
And they're like, aha!
He says he's going to charge everybody money.
And then Elon comes out and he's like, I'm not saying we're going to charge everyone money.
I'm saying that is how you get rid of bots.
But of course the media runs the narrative, and then a bunch of people sign up for Blue Sky or whatever, because they're trying to regain control.
They're losing.
harrison smith
And they're also launching investigations into Tesla and SpaceX, and I mean, they go after you however they can, and obviously what it's about is that they want total control of the information flow, because that is, in this information age, that's how you control people.
You control what goes into their mind.
It's like some sort of information war.
It's crazy.
tim pool
Let's talk about how evil these people are.
Let's jump to this story first.
I had another story I was going to jump to.
We'll talk about this one from the post-millennial.
Tim Ballard speaks out against false allegations leveled at him after announcing potential Senate run.
I will not stop.
I will not give up.
On Wednesday, Tim Ballard released a statement addressing allegations leveled against him following his announcement that he was running for the Senate in Utah.
Ballard read from a press release from his non-profit, The Spear Fund, which read,
Rescuing kids and fighting child trafficking is an ugly and dark business, especially when,
as the result of my work for more than 20 years, we continue to expose members of the powerful,
well-funded child trafficking cartels. Evil pedophiles will stop at nothing, and they have
allies in government, in the media, in big corporations, and even in public institutions.
They will continue to lie about an attempt to destroy my good name, and they will never stop.
Ballard said, he wanted to let everyone know that I and our vast army of supporters will likewise never stop.
We will keep fighting for the vulnerable all over the globe, and we know that the truth will always prevail.
I am a faithful member in good standing in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
I believe in Jesus Christ, the Holy Scriptures, and I believe in our faith with my whole heart that will never change.
Ballard said that it has been alleged that an anonymous LDS spokesperson issued a statement about me through a tabloid that is often hostile to people of faith.
Further, my church has not publicly verified its authenticity.
So, we have this other story from the Postmillennial.
Utah DA closed criminal investigation into Operation Underground Railroad, Tim Ballard, in March.
They're false allegations.
What do you think is going to happen if you're hunting down trafficking cartels?
Yeah, they're gonna play dirty to try and stop you.
The funny thing about this, the attacks against Russell Brand, the attacks against Julian Assange, and now get this, Rudy Giuliani.
Oh, that's just, come on.
It's just the only thing they have is they're like, how do we stop this guy?
Just say he groped some woman or something and it's like, okay, I guess.
Yeah, we're at the point where it's like, dude, Like I was saying earlier, you come at Russell Brand, and we're like, that's kinda weird, they're all coming after Russell Brand.
But he does have that past!
That was his thing, he joked a lot about this stuff.
You know, there's a video someone posted where he's joking with a woman if he can get on with her or her daughters, and she's like, my daughters are 15 or whatever.
He made some pretty crude jokes, and so you wonder, man, how responsible or irresponsible was this guy?
But Tim Ballard?
Like, a Bible-thumping, child-trafficking, like, hunting... What?
I'm sorry, the least credible allegations I've ever heard are the ones against Tim Ballard.
It's just, there's no way I'm... At this point, And they come out and claim that Donald Trump did something.
It's just, no one's going to believe it.
They could come out and say any, they could come out and say Andrew Tate was like abusing women at this point.
And I'm just like, bro, all of this stuff, to be fair, they did come out and say that about Tate.
I'm saying they could, they could like make crazier accusations at this point.
I'm just like, Andrew Tate could literally come out and say those past videos, you know, or all of him saying these things.
I'm not going to believe any of it.
It's just, they try every single person.
It's the only thing they have.
andrew gruel
Yeah, but the thing is, is that when Russell Brand, he was out in the public eye saying all of these things and the media supported him.
He was a hero of the media.
tim pool
They were laughing.
andrew gruel
That's the crazy thing, right?
So the time in which all these things were happening, everybody knew, and his caricature, right?
His personality in a lot of these shows was as that kind of gutter snipe, like misogynistic, uh, you know, guy.
So, and he was the hero.
It wasn't until he then crossed over that he became the enemy.
tim pool
They're like, you know, we tried calling everybody racists for a while, and it didn't really work, so we upgraded to white supremacists.
That's not really working anymore, let's just call them all rapists.
There you go.
harrison smith
Yeah, and it's, you know, sort of non-false fable, right?
You can't prove or disprove something that happened 15, 20 years ago.
I don't know much about Tim Ballard, but, you know, Russell Brand, I mean, that was the sort of character that he was playing, but sort of regardless of all of that, are we saying that if you get convicted of a crime, you can't earn a living anymore?
Right.
Uh, which obviously hasn't been convicted or, as far as I can tell, even legally charged with committing any of these crimes.
But it's almost like a, uh, does the punishment fit the crime?
Is this not cruel and unusual punishment for, yeah, you know, potentially baseless accusation?
And the craziest part about that was the article that came out in the Times.
They say, like, These women didn't say anything until our reporters approached them and they thought it was important to come out because of his newfound prominence as a dissident right-wing person.
So it's like they're not even hiding anymore.
They're literally saying because he is a prominent dissident and because he speaks out against the establishment, therefore here's the accusations that we're making against him.
It's insane.
phil labonte
I think that that's super important.
The fact that this is all coming out is only because of his political stances.
This was perfectly fine.
No one had an issue.
There was no problem for, what, almost 20 years now since it happened?
Same thing again.
We talked about Howard Stern earlier.
No one has an issue with that and no one's coming after Howard Stern because Howard Stern is pushing the party line.
He is saying the politically correct He has the proper, allowable opinions.
If you have a dissenting opinion, there are people that are going to go into your history, look for anything they can come up with.
People love to tell me I'm wrong or specifically like shit lips part of my French but like bad liberals people are terrible liberals.
We are in a Maoist cultural revolution in the United States right now.
These are the things that were done in Maoist China.
In order for the Communist Party to gain control, they use the Red Guard to intimidate people, to accuse people of all sorts of different improprieties and stuff.
This is what's going on.
Obviously, it's not going to look exactly the same as in China, you know, 70 or 60 years ago, but a lot of the same tactics are being used, of the same shaming, the same trying to ostracize people, kick them out of polite society, take their ability to provide for their families and stuff.
All of that stuff is happening right now. My question too is let's apply this
andrew gruel
same logic.
Tara Reid. That's all I got to say. Tara Reid. Joe Biden's got to be banned from
tim pool
YouTube. Yep. No more White House videos on YouTube because Joe Biden, you know, he
phil labonte
did those awful things. Shut the Clinton Foundation down.
Shut it down. Yeah.
Yeah, that would only be fair.
Bill Clinton can't take a dime from anybody.
harrison smith
No, but that's what it is, and it's the Great Reset, and it's the stakeholder capitalism is what it is, where they have companies, I mean it's, we said the Great Reset, it should be called something like the Great Consolidation, or the Great Coagulation, right?
It's companies and Government acting seemingly independently, but in perfect coordination with one another to carry these things out.
So I mean, this is it's a cultural revolution, but it's worldwide and it's being orchestrated from it's being orchestrated from a central power, but also like we really are in this in this phase where.
They all just sort of know and there doesn't necessarily have to be some sort of conspiracy behind the scenes where they're secretly communicating with one another.
They all just sort of know.
I mean, you know, in the old days, you'd have like a false flag attack.
You'd have to control the media and you'd have to have the police on your side and every, you know, certain people in key positions.
Now, they just sort of.
Do it, and the media knows, okay, here's the narrative that I'm going along with, and don't investigate it too much, or else you might find out how fake it is.
phil labonte
That's because it's an ideology.
You don't have to have... You can have Christians from different parts of the world that have never met each other, and they're still going to be able to tell you how Christianity works.
You can have Muslims from different parts of the world that have never met each other, they're still going to be able to tell you how Islam works.
It's the same thing with this type of mentality.
It's an ideology, and so it doesn't matter if the people are read into the newest cutting-edge stuff.
In fact, sometimes they make errors, like when... Wemmickson.
Wemmickson was a bad one, but when Kajinti Brown-Jackson was having a hearing, and she said, I'm not a biologist, Like, that was the wrong answer.
tim pool
It's not because she was saying gender was biology.
phil labonte
Exactly.
It should have been, uh, I forget.
tim pool
I'm not a gender theorist.
phil labonte
Yeah, it should have been gender theorist.
That would have been the correct one.
She actually made an error according to the theory.
But like Tim said, she should have said she's a gender theorist to be able to explain that.
But you don't have to know the cutting edge, because they'll cover for you if you make an error.
It doesn't matter.
You have the right politics, you're going for the right side, so we'll go ahead and we'll brush the misstep under the rug.
tim pool
And simply put, if you are living your life, living your career of hunting down trafficking cartels, the easiest and most obvious way to stop you is to accuse you.
Is to try and do something like this.
Bunk allegations.
But it's, I mean, look, how long until Oliver Anthony gets falsely accused?
TikTok.
I mean, he's trying real hard not to be super political despite the fact that his songs are very political and anti-establishment, which is anti-left inherently.
It's only a matter of time, I guess.
harrison smith
And, you know, the real issue is what they don't want you to do is have your own platform to be able to defend yourself.
I mean, it's the same thing they, you know, did with Alex Jones, right?
They accuse him of things and then remove him from social media so he can't actually argue back.
So the only narrative that's allowed to be proliferated is their narrative.
So they want, and the way that the, specifically like the Online Safety Act in the UK, They want the companies and the platforms themselves to preemptively take action on content that's posted.
So the way it is now, if the government issues a request and then retroactively you go in and remove it, they want the companies to actually take that burden on and remove posts themselves preemptively before the government has to get involved.
So that's where the stakeholder capitalism comes in, where the corporations are actually taking on that burden.
And if they don't, then the corporations are the ones being punished by the government.
So they want to create a situation where they can make accusations and the accused has no ability to respond in a mainstream fashion.
tim pool
Let's talk about Howard Stern.
From the New York Post, Howard Stern hits back at critics.
I am woke, mother effer, and I love it.
This is the perfect example.
I am so grateful for Howard Stern because if ever you want to explain to someone the cult, you need only show them Howard Stern.
He says, I hear that a lot that I'm not good anymore because I'm woke.
By the way, I kind of take that as a compliment that I'm woke, self-described king of all media said on Monday.
I'll tell you how I feel about it.
To me, the opposite of woke is being asleep, said Stern, a staunch supporter of the Democratic Party.
And if woke means I can't get behind Trump, which is what I think it means, or that I support people who want to be transgender or I'm for the vaccine, dude, call me woke as you effing want, Stern added.
Let me break it down for you.
You don't have to support Donald Trump to oppose wokeness.
You don't have to be... I mean, in fact, there are many people who oppose wokeness who are trans, who have gotten the vaccine.
Howard Stern is the perfect example of cult member.
He's simply saying, I want money and I will suckle whatever I need to suckle to get it.
A guy, who now we get this viral clips from 1999, I think it was Columbine.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Where he was saying, I can't even repeat what he said.
harrison smith
Yeah.
tim pool
I'll try and keep it as family friendly as possible.
Howard Stern advocated for the Columbine perpetrators To have their way with their victims and questioned why they wouldn't do it.
This guy is as despicable as you can possibly imagine, and he's always been.
He's always been.
So this is the funny thing.
Right now we're looking at everything he's saying and being like, what a spineless piece- This is his bit!
He always sides with evil.
That's his thing.
harrison smith
Well, I mean, but, you know, he started off as being the free speech warrior.
I mean, I hate to think that we're giving Howard Stern what he wants right now, because all he wants is relevance.
He's not really relevant anymore, so this is his sort of desperate grasp at being relevant, which, you know, really he's a drowning man, and now he's reaching up to pull Woke down with him, which good riddance, because who wants to be associated with Someone like him.
I think he actually explains what woke is perfectly there.
He's like, if you're for the vaccine, if you're for doing whatever the powers tell you, then that's what I am.
tim pool
If that's what he was to have said, but he's not.
I mean, wokeness is being a part of the cult.
You can have reasonable disagreements on being for or against certain gender ideology things or the vaccine.
There are a lot of intelligent people who are not woke who have real conversations about this.
Howard Stern is basically just saying, don't know, don't care, whatever they tell me to say, I'll say.
Please give me more money.
harrison smith
Yeah.
And I mean, the Columbine thing is what everybody's talking about right now.
You can go on YouTube, you can watch old Howard Stern shows from the 90s.
I'm not a prudish person at all, but some of the things they were saying back then, like, you know, make me go, oh boy, I can't believe they said that back then.
tim pool
I mean, the Columbine thing.
harrison smith
Yeah, that's really bad.
But in terms of, like, racist and sex, I mean, he was pretty far out there.
I mean, you can find hours of Howard Stern saying things that would get him cancelled in an instant.
carter banks
He's got a whole movie about it, private parts, right?
harrison smith
Right.
andrew gruel
If for some reason Howard Stern hit his head and woke up a new person tomorrow and he turned on this wokeness, he would be the next target.
tim pool
His show would be cancelled overnight?
andrew gruel
Yep.
tim pool
And so he's sitting in his studio, and I'm willing to bet someone came to him and said, Hey man, don't fly too close to the sun.
Keep it, keep it here.
You know, here's what we want and expect.
And he was like, you got it boss.
andrew gruel
Yeah, and get ahead of it too.
Yep.
Get ahead of it.
Say the right thing.
tim pool
Oh, I mean the reason why he's saying I'm woke, I'm woke, I'm woke, I swear, I swear, it's because all of these clips are coming out, which would get anyone cancelled.
andrew gruel
Well, it's uncle.
Uncle, uncle, right?
Like, he's getting his arm twisted and he's throwing it out there.
It's the battle cry.
tim pool
I bet he cries at night.
I'm not kidding.
I'm not, like, I'm not trying to be like, haha, what a loser.
I'm saying, like, you can't be a guy who has your whole career based on saying racial slurs and sexually inappropriate things now be literally on your knees Begging!
Begging like a pathetic spineless little baby and feel good about yourself.
phil labonte
He's been pretty, he was pretty open in private parts that he's kind of a cowardly guy.
Like he did, he came out and said the same.
Like he's like, oh, you know, I'm kind of scared of the da-da-da-da-da.
And I mean, that's, that just kind of shows here.
Like he doesn't have the courage to stand up and look at the powers that be in the face and say, no, I'm not going to just kiss the boot, you know?
tim pool
He says, I want to be awake.
I want to read legitimate news sources.
Stern also alluded to claims made by Trump and his supporters that President Biden's victory was fraudulent.
Here's how woke I am.
I believe the election was not rigged.
I am woke.
I think that's a compliment, he said.
It's like, it's really weird that he goes through a list of all of these things saying, please, please, I'm saying the things I was told to say.
I'm just imagining Howard Stern on his knees, crying, as these, like, woke, twenty-something-year-old, fat, blue-haired women are like, say it or I'll get you fired, because we can email three people.
And then he's just like, please, please!
Wow, I just, look man, I could not understand doing that.
I talked about this before, when I was little, I'm like watching these historical lessons or whatever in school or they play cartoons.
They tell stories about...
Someone would get captured and they would say, renounce your faith, otherwise we'll kill you.
And they'd be like, I will never do it.
And then I'd be like, why didn't I just lie?
Like, seriously, just say it.
Now, I wouldn't say I would completely ever agree.
I do think there's some value in just trying to escape people who are attacking you and being smart about it.
But now I get it, to a certain degree.
Howard Stern is the kind of guy that would immediately fall to his knees and offer to, like if a guy broke into his house, He'd just be like, I will let you do anything to my body.
I swear to God.
Just whatever you say, man.
You can have anything, including me.
That's the kind of guy that he is.
Whereas, like, I'm sure most people listening to this show, me and many people in this room, would not purport to be tough guys who are going to want to fight, but would probably try to protect our homes to whatever degree we could.
Whereas Howard Stern would just drop to his knees and be like, tell me what to do and I'll do it.
harrison smith
Well, hasn't he, I mean, has he left his house yet?
I'm pretty sure he like went into his basement when COVID first started and like didn't leave until like maybe a couple months ago.
tim pool
Stern?
andrew gruel
It's like, oh yeah.
carter banks
Yeah, that's what I heard too.
harrison smith
Oh no, it's like pathetic.
I mean, literally a couple months ago, there was a clip going around of him like getting mad at his wife for like going out to, do you know what I'm talking about?
carter banks
Oh yeah, I've seen that again.
andrew gruel
Yeah, yeah.
He's a hypochondriac.
I mean, he is like still living in the heart of COVID.
He eats crustless sandwiches cause he doesn't want, he thinks there's bacteria on the crust.
tim pool
Could you imagine, like, take this article and bring it back in time to, you know, the 90s, when Howard Stern is like this shock jack that everyone's talking about, like, wow, he's so crazy, and then be like, nah, that's who he really is.
It's so embarrassing.
You know, it's kind of crazy, because legacy matters.
What are you alive for?
You're alive to leave something behind for your family, for your friends, for your kids, to have a positive impact that makes humanity better.
Geez.
andrew gruel
Well, I mean, this is rage against the machine forcing people to get vaccinated before they go to their shows.
harrison smith
Rage on behalf of the machine.
tim pool
Yeah.
andrew gruel
Yeah.
harrison smith
And I mean, you know, it's it it is it's it it all goes back to a spiritual battle.
And that's what that's what I get from all of what we've just seen Howard Stern say is just this like deep-seated really really like Really thorough spiritual cowardice, where he's just like, I just believe whatever they tell me.
I believe whatever they tell me.
I have no beliefs higher than the humans around me who order me around.
tim pool
If Howard Stern was sitting in a park eating a ham sandwich and having a milkshake, and a bunch of Trump supporters walked up to him and they're like, hey Howard, we want to have a word with you.
He'd go, I love Trump!
You know, I actually love it.
I've loved it the whole time.
I mean, the show is a show.
It's not real.
Like, you guys know, I've always been that guy.
He will say anything.
I'm saying, like, a guy in a MAGA hat could walk up to him and be like, hey, Howard, nice to meet you.
And he'll immediately be the kind of guy who's like, oh, you know, Trump's actually really good.
I really like him.
And the things in the show aren't real.
Just, I'll say whatever I need to say.
Spineless.
Cowardice.
phil labonte
Sad.
tim pool
Sad.
But this is so many people, it's not just Howard Stern.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
There are so many people right now, and I'm sure the people listening know people like this.
That you know, like, I'll put it this way.
Everybody's got that friend, more than one maybe, or family member, who you know has said something bad or done something offensive, and all of a sudden now they're acting hoity-toity, acting like, you know, oh, everyone's got to fall in line.
Why?
They're scared it'll come for them.
I was talking to some people from Vice, and I was telling them about this.
I was like, dude, back when we were working there, the articles that they were writing, the stuff that was getting all the traffic and hitting, they won't do any of that stuff.
And they're like, well, we can't do that anymore.
And I'm like, says who?
Who says you can't write the articles that people actually want to read?
Hey, guess what?
Vice is bankrupt.
Congratulations, everybody.
You had a choice to march in lockstep with losers like Howard Stern, and then lose all your money, and that's what you chose.
That's really amazing.
I really do wonder.
I'd love to have a conversation with Shane Smith.
Haven't talked to the guy in a decade.
I really wonder about how he let them take his creation, the CNN of the street, the multi-billion dollar corporation, grind it into a paste, and then crap it onto the floor.
That's it.
I mean, look, when Vice was growing and expanding, it was a big threat to these corporations.
They all wanted a piece because they didn't want to get left behind.
What did they do instead?
Infiltrate, destroy, and it's gone.
harrison smith
Yeah, I don't know if they did that on purpose or if it's just like an inevitable consequence of being their form of woke or whatever you want to call it.
tim pool
Well, for Vice, it was because they had a series of allegations against... I'm going to be very careful.
I was told this, this is true, by people who are high up and had been at the company for a very long time.
That there were a series of accusations made against prominent employees.
Some of this is widely reported.
Just Google search it.
You can read it.
And the investors came in and said, the only way to deal with these accusations and to not lose our deals, our contracts, our sponsors, and violent morality clauses is to become feminist.
Embrace the feminism, become a champion of the activism, and push back on misogyny, and now you are protecting yourself.
And they went, you got it boss!
And then just spiraled into obscurity.
harrison smith
And wasn't the main investor George Soros, or a Soros-controlled organization?
tim pool
Uh, no.
Vice first got their big money from, I think it might have been Fox.
No, that's not fair.
When they came- I used to know.
It's been so long.
harrison smith
I thought it was Disney and- That was way later.
tim pool
It was Disney and that was actually through A&E that Disney got involved.
carter banks
I think it was like A&E was Hearst and- Is there some kind of Canadian grant or something like way back?
tim pool
That's super, super way back.
Super early days when it was called Voice of Montreal.
They came to the U.S., they got a little bit of money.
I can't remember where it came from.
But they had big investment from Rupert Murdoch.
That was first.
And that's Fox Corporation, right?
That was, I think, $70 million.
They had, I believe, they had investment from WPP, which is basic, like, people really need to look at what WPP is and start researching that stuff.
There's like one company that owns a piece of all of these different media properties, and then later on they brought in, I think it was A&E, which basically brought them money from Disney, and I think, it's been a long time.
But I'll just keep it simple, I'll keep it simple.
Everybody knows Vice.
And there was a point where, I'm sure most people watching, they're in college, or they're getting out of college, and they're watching those Vice documentaries, and they were awesome.
harrison smith
They were super cool, yeah.
tim pool
And then all of a sudden, somehow, what happened?
I can give you an example.
When I started working for Vice, as part of my negotiation was, I flat out said to the executives, I do live streaming and social media stuff.
What I don't do is documentary stuff.
I need that because in between big breaking news, what content is Tim Pool releasing?
Like what am I covering?
What stories am I doing?
It's not always big breaking stories.
So here's what I'll do.
I will cover the big breaking news, live stream it to the millions of views, and then in the meantime, We will produce many documentaries around these stories.
So, put it this way.
If I go out and I cover, say, like Gezi Park in Turkey, we can do two things.
We can film a mini-doc about it, and we can livestream it.
Two birds with one stone, and then you guys are helping me where I need help.
And they were like, that's a brilliant idea, Tim.
Welcome aboard, you're awesome.
And I was the first person hired for Vice News.
And then, what ends up happening is, one day, one of the producers comes up to me, and he's like, look man, I know you really want to do some of these documentaries and stuff, but This was specifically HBO.
There's a lot more nuance to it.
Essentially, the original idea for Vice News was whatever HBO wouldn't pick up, they would run on a different channel.
And he said, the thing is, HBO doesn't want white men.
We gotta get more people of color and women.
And I was like, I'm mixed.
I'm mixed race.
And they were like, yeah, that doesn't matter.
You look white.
And I'm like, and that's the game they play.
So, here I am, I'm hired, and then I got pissed, and I went to them and I said, here's our arrangement, here's what you promised, and they're like, we know, we know, we know, they gave me more money, and then eventually, I was like, I'm out.
Like, if you're gonna tell me that I can't host things because of my race, and literally they did, and I'll also say this too, some other producers, like, were very polite to me, and basically said, without being mean, I wasn't that good at it.
And that's totally fine.
You know, I had one guy be like, you gotta figure this stuff out, man.
Okay?
And I'm like, sure.
And another guy was like, the reality is, we can edit this stuff, we can make it however it needs to be made, and we can direct you.
HBO doesn't want white people.
And I was like, okay.
I was like, well, all right, there you go.
And I experienced the same thing at Fusion.
So let them all rot.
When I see them failing, when I see Vice and Fusion, wow, how funny is this?
TimCast Media is rapidly expanding.
We got the coffee company is growing.
We're hiring more people.
We're doing more show deals.
We got a big announcement coming soon.
We have this big show in Miami.
All of the success that we've had watching behind us as all of these people chose to burn down
what they were building because they would rather bend the knee like Howard Stern.
What a spineless, pathetic loser.
harrison smith
And that's what happens, right?
When you take big investments, when you welcome these people on, you give them the power to destroy you or the power to control you.
And it's so funny because things like Temcast or InfoWars, it's like when you actually just rely on your audience and you give your audience what you want, what they want, and then they support you for it, you can actually expand and do amazing things.
But as soon as the corporations or the investors come in and start ordering you around and making Decisions that are not focused on what the audience wants, it all starts to fall apart.
andrew gruel
You know, hearing that story and in the context of Howard Stern, his time's up.
He's on a list.
He's the low-lying fruit right now.
So, we should circle back on this, and whether it's six months or a year, I have a feeling Howard Stern is going to be on the chopping block.
tim pool
Well, this is why he's going so extreme in the other direction.
Yeah, exactly.
So, you got a treadmill, right?
And it's speeding up, and people are being flung off the right side of it.
And Howard Stern is running as fast as he can because he's on that edge.
And he's got to just try and inch as much as he can.
It's going to be really difficult for him.
But I mean, I gotta be honest, he would be better off if he just stayed himself.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
If he totally just went the, shut up you losers, and just stayed himself.
He'd be doing way better.
He doesn't have to support Trump.
He doesn't have to hate vaccines.
He just needs to stop being a whiny little loser.
Who's like, just bending the knee and doing whatever he's told.
But whatever man, hey, he can do whatever he wants.
He has, I wonder if he has any respect from anyone.
I'll add this.
He's saying whatever boomers he thinks, whatever he thinks boomers want to hear.
That's it.
That's where he's at.
He doesn't care what we think.
I'm half his age.
How old is the guy?
70 or something?
He doesn't care.
unidentified
Pretty old.
tim pool
Yeah.
So he's not trying to impress me.
He's trying to impress other boomers.
And that's the reality of how generations work.
Like we don't do this show specifically targeting 19 year olds.
We don't do, like, some companies do that weird stuff where they try and pander, you know, like, hello, fellow kids, you know, like, we just be ourselves.
That's what we do.
We be ourselves.
And then what happens is the attitudes, the worldview, the things we like resonate with people close to our age.
That's exactly what he's doing.
phil labonte
He is 69 years old.
unidentified
Holy cow.
tim pool
Yeah, look at that.
andrew gruel
He's ready to run for Congress.
phil labonte
All right, all right, everybody.
tim pool
I hate to do this to you, but we're gonna do it.
I want to start this segment by apologizing to all of you for putting this image in your head.
But it is breaking news, and I believe this shows the depravity and the evil of the people who are in opposition, or I should say, are establishment, uniparty, and woke.
From CNN.
Former Trump aide Cassidy Hutchinson claims Rudy Giuliani groped her on day of attack on Capitol.
phil labonte
Wow.
tim pool
Such a shocking story to come out a day before her book release.
Is that right?
andrew gruel
Yes, a day or two.
I don't know the exact timing, but yep.
tim pool
Wow.
Oh, so she accused Rudy Giuliani of groping her.
That's coming out in her book.
So congratulations PR company.
You hit the nail on the head with the hammer.
You people are evil.
phil labonte
I have a problem.
I've always had a problem with people falsely using racism as an excuse for everything.
My problem was that racism is a useful term, and it's a real thing, and it's something that, honestly, I think we should frown upon.
Like, you should not judge people based on the color of their skin.
You shouldn't prejudge people.
You should judge people by the way they behave, you know, by their actions towards you.
Like, that's something that we should hope that we do in our society.
And the way that the left has used racism as a tactic, as opposed to a description, they've used it to say, okay, this is why you should hate this person.
This is why you should disregard what this person said.
And they've made it so, first of all, people have become somewhat numb to the term, to the word racism.
If you get called a racist nowadays, people are kind of like, are they really saying that I'm racist or are they just calling me a name because they don't like me?
So that's a bad thing because it's useful.
And second of all, it covers for actual racists.
It gives them a way to hide.
It gives them a way to kind of, you know, stealth around.
And if that's happening with other things like sexual assault, you don't want people in your society to say, I don't believe her.
Like, that's always been an argument against false accusations, and the more this is used as a tactic, the more real people that were really sexually assaulted are going to have problems convincing people that they were hurt.
And this is horrible!
This is going to hurt real women, real live people that are going to actually have to deal with the fact that they get sexually assaulted and then more people are going to doubt what they say and it's only going to make it harder.
This is all bad for us.
All bad.
There's no winners.
tim pool
So, uh, it's a Giuliani political advisor, Ted Goodman, in a statement called, Hutchinson's Claims a Disgusting Lie, quote, It's fair to ask Cassidy Hutchinson why she is just now coming out with these allegations from two and a half years ago as part of the marketing campaign for her upcoming book release.
This is a disgusting lie against Mayor Rudy Giuliani, a man whose distinguished career in public service includes taking down the mafia, cleaning up New York City, and comforting the nation following September 11th.
I'm not gonna read, you know, whatever she's claiming, but I think this one right here shows they jumped the shark.
I'm sorry, dude, when this crackpot woman who's full of crap comes out and accuses Rudy Giuliani, and it's funny that what's happening?
Rudy Giuliani, Russell Brand, and Tim Bout, all at the exact same time!
No one, no one believes you anymore!
No one believed you since that mattress girl, when those messages got published, showing that she was begging the dude to hook up with her, and then later claimed that he abused her.
Like, dude, I'm just so sick of it.
These people are evil, and it's, it's, if, if you can't effectively, like, we need to effectively, and in very simple terms, just show these stories to regular people.
andrew gruel
Well, first of all, two and a half years ago was the heart of the Me Too movement.
So it would have been a ripe time... First, if this happened, she should have come out and been like, look, this guy's a creep, here's what happened, and this is exactly what happened.
Think about the inertia that would have gotten at the time.
phil labonte
Book wasn't done yet.
andrew gruel
Exactly.
harrison smith
I didn't realize who this woman was until you just pulled up her picture.
What was her testimony on January?
Was she the one that said that Trump tried to steal the car and drive it out?
tim pool
Oh, is that her?
harrison smith
I think, right?
I mean, she testified in front of the January 6th committee.
tim pool
Did she?
andrew gruel
She's a former special assistant to President Donald Trump and his chief of staff, Mark Meadows.
tim pool
Yeah, he intended to go to the Capitol at the last minute.
I think she was the one who said that.
harrison smith
You reached for the steering wheel.
Yeah, there you go.
tim pool
And it's like the crazy thing is all, it's all provably false.
harrison smith
Right.
tim pool
You can't jump between the separate, he was in the, what was it, they're saying he was in the beast or whatever?
He was in, he was in the limo.
I believe it was, right?
He lunged to the front of his presidential limo and tried to turn the wheel.
There's a, there's a partition!
unidentified
Has any, have these people ever been in a limousine before?
harrison smith
It makes no sense.
So yeah, she had a crazy January 6th.
That was a wild day for her, I guess.
andrew gruel
I tried to do that at prom.
Unfortunately, the partition was up.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, look, whatever.
This was actually a big scandal when she reported this because a lot of people pointed out like, hey, that, in fact, what was it?
Like he wasn't in the limo or something like that?
Or what was the story?
It's been a while.
harrison smith
Yeah, I don't even remember.
Just seeing her face, that's what it brought to mind, and I just remember it being utterly ridiculous.
Again, I haven't looked into her accusations of Rudy Giuliani, but on first blush, they seem pretty ridiculous as well.
We're really in a tough spot because it's not like you can easily punish people for making false accusations without really damaging the ability for people to make actual accusations because suddenly it's like, oh, if I make this accusation and I can't prove it, I'm going to go to jail.
I'm just not going to make the accusation again.
So, they really, they sort of have us in a position where, like, they can make these accusations, even if they're totally false, there's no risk to them, because if we were to try to put anything in place to prevent false accusations, then really the person that you're hurting is the people making actual accusations, so it's really just taking advantage of, you know, good human nature in a way that only these evil, evil people are capable of doing.
tim pool
I just think it's hilarious that we've got Russell Brand, Tim Ballard, and Giuliani all at the same time.
Like, oh dude, I'm sorry man, you guys need to coordinate your campaigns better because it makes it even less believable.
You couldn't spend five minutes getting on the phone before launching these ridiculous smears against these dudes?
harrison smith
And again, it just has nothing to do with what the accusations are about.
Just like they're investigating Elon Musk for 900 different things.
Really they hate him because he wants to open up Twitter X and have free speech.
Like that's the thing that they actually want to stop him from doing.
They can't just do that so they have to try to come up with a hundred different other ways of going at him and it's blatant and obvious but frustrating because you have to deal with all these different attacks all of a sudden.
tim pool
So it sounds like The story is that he was talking to everybody behind, like backstage, and then he, like, put his arm somewhat around her while holding the documents and kept talking about the election.
And that's the story.
And she goes on to say, like, you know, his fingers are trailing, and I'm just, it's just, it's- You got, like, cold fingers in there?
Dude, I'm not, it's not real.
Like, this is, this is, like, weird, weird, psychotic.
I think the issue is, I gotta be honest, um, women love true crime, you know?
And we've talked about this before, the Donald Trump saga is the premier true crime podcast.
That's why they have Mueller, she wrote, or whatever.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Is that show still on?
They still doing that podcast?
andrew gruel
Unfortunately, yeah.
tim pool
How?
Mueller ended years ago!
When did Mueller end? 2019?
andrew gruel
Yep.
tim pool
That's what I did four years ago.
And they're still doing that?
Let me look that up.
phil labonte
Big ol' nothing burger.
andrew gruel
And by the way, that podcast too, if we're talking about the same one, the person who runs it, everything came out as being false and completely made up, like her history, everything that she claims to be, etc.
tim pool
Mueller she wrote.
Jeez.
Guys, it's demoralizing that there are people who vote for these people.
I can understand if you're like, I won't vote for Mitch McConnell.
I'm like, I agree.
I can understand if you're like, the rank-and-file Republicans are awful Uniparty speed bumps for Democrats.
And I'm like, yeah, you know?
And then if you go and say you're going to vote for a Democrat, I'm just like, how does that happen?
You know what I mean?
harrison smith
You know, most people are not paying attention to this source.
I think you and I were talking about this before the show.
You know, they just see the headlines and the mainstream media's primary role in America today is to tell the truth.
They have to tell the truth.
They have to stick to the facts, but they leave you believing a lie.
So and I mean, it's with big things, too.
I mean, recently, the thing that was revealed was there was a big missile attack that they blamed on Russia that killed civilians.
And of course, that's the headline that gets implanted in people's heads.
Russia, evil, Russia, evil.
And then it came out it was the Ukrainian missile, but it comes out quietly several months later.
Nobody really cares.
And when you do that enough and you have enough stories coming out like that, you know, they're building layer upon layer upon layer of lies.
So, you know, I've had conversations with people talking about January 6th where they go, you know, yeah, Trump, you know, called for violence because this is what he does.
Remember during the campaign, you know, his people were violent during the 2016 campaign.
It's like, okay, So in order to debunk the lie of 2021, I got to go all the way back to 2016 and all of the lies in between there.
phil labonte
And they're not going to believe any of it either because they're already invested in the narrative that Donald Trump is bad.
andrew gruel
Yeah, the seed has sprouted.
So I posted this on my Twitter today, and you gotta look this story up.
There's this guy, and he's digging a hole in the beach, right?
And he goes, look at what happened with the hole that was dug in the beach, and it's just him on TikTok.
And then it cuts to a story in the news, and they're like, it looks like a meteor hit the beach, and we have a scientist here, and they're talking about this guy's hole.
unidentified
No, they're not.
tim pool
That's fake.
andrew gruel
Oh, that was?
Oh my god, I bought it.
I bought the whole thing.
tim pool
Yeah, so this is something we talked- I talked with, uh, Alex Stein about.
I was like, bro, this is your new play.
Find news stories, and then film yourself doing the thing in the story, and then just edit it before the news story, because people believe it.
andrew gruel
Well, and the reason I believed that it was actually true was because I believed that they would do something like that.
They would.
tim pool
But that's the thing, everybody wanted to believe that story, and if you actually look at the videos, they're not even the same beach.
One has houses in the back left of the video, and the ocean to the right.
The video from the news report has an island to the right, and shrubberies to the left.
And I'm just like, the first time I saw that video, I was just like, these are not the same place.
But then everybody just keeps retweeting it because they want it to be real.
andrew gruel
Well, same point.
Same exact point.
tim pool
Maybe there is like a camera angle thing where you couldn't see the island and it's true, fine, whatever.
But I tell you, you see a news story where they're like, we found a hole in the beach.
Then you go to the beach, dig a hole, put your video in front and say, haha, it was us, and people believe it.
andrew gruel
Yeah, that actually is pretty smart.
Either way, it got me.
tim pool
Yeah, this is another thing I was talking about.
We used to do viral marketing pitches.
One of them was basically this.
One of the ideas is...
You can walk around New York City until you see an ambulance, or just like, the moment you see an ambulance doing something anywhere, you film it, and then you come back the next day, just before the same time, so the sunlight is the same, and then film whatever ridiculous thing you want to be the story.
So then the ambulance makes it look believable and real!
Because, if you had a, so my joke was like, you have a cookie monster beating the crap out of a guy dressed like a giant cookie.
Because it's an absurd thing.
And then people are going to be like, that's fake.
That's not real.
And then all of a sudden it shows the ambulance there and you're going, dude, wow.
And they're like, whoa, now they believe it's real.
So that's the viral marketing campaign strategy you see with videos like this.
harrison smith
Well, and people are doing that quite a bit.
The latest one was the woman tearing down the rainbow flag in the classroom.
And it just is, I mean, to me, it's obviously fake from the outset.
It's like you've got like 30 year old people pretending to be high school kids or, you know, and I think maybe it's the same company or a different one that does the, you know, viral encounters on a plane.
tim pool
and it's like that is not a real claim. But the full video shows a scenario and then the people
say, thanks for watching our video. Right. What do you think about this scenario that we proposed
today? Leave a comment below. And it's like their clips are obviously fake when they present them,
but then other people take them, snip them out of context, and then try and pass them off,
and people buy it, people believe it. You gotta...
It really frustrates me.
The first one I saw was, it's the girl in the classroom wearing a bikini, and the teacher's like, you can't wear that in my class, and I'm like, these are adults.
I just ignore it.
If people are wondering why it is that I rarely post videos that are wrong, I just, for whatever reason, ignore very obviously fake posts, or I'll call them out.
When the Covington kids things happened, my first thought was, I get all these people hitting me up being like, you gotta look at what these kids did, and I'm like, what did they do?
And they're like, here's a video, and I look at it, and I'm like, I don't understand.
And they're like, look what the kid's doing, and I'm like, what's he doing?
Like, he got in the face of that Native American guy, and I was like...
It's just a video of two people standing next to each other, bro, I don't know what you're talking about.
So when I watch the full video, ah, other way around.
But people want things to be true.
andrew gruel
Yeah.
tim pool
So they just believe it.
So when these videos come out where you've got these actors staging a high school room and there's a carpet, that's the first thing I notice.
I'm like, there's no carpet in a high school classroom.
These people believe in this stuff.
And then it turns out they're just comedians.
They're actors putting on fake bits.
It's like, everybody wants to believe that a mother tore down a pride flag in a classroom, and I'm like, they're in an office building.
Look at the drop ceiling.
harrison smith
Yeah, it makes no sense.
tim pool
There's a drop ceiling!
And a carpet!
That's not a high school!
People want to believe it.
andrew gruel
But the desire to believe is also emblematic of a lot of these stories and what we were just talking about is that when one story comes out and it's thought of as the truth for even five minutes or just one news cycle, that's it.
There's never kind of like a retroactive re-examination of the story.
And that's ultimately, you know, everything related to Trump.
tim pool
I think people really do not understand what AI is going to do in 2024.
andrew gruel
Yep.
I think you're entirely correct.
tim pool
Let me give you a scenario.
Do you remember, let's say, do you remember everything we talked about earlier when we were talking about restaurants, chef rule?
andrew gruel
About 95% of it.
tim pool
Yeah, and so if I played a recording back for you that sounded about right, you'd be like, yeah, that sounds like, I can't remember exactly what we said, but that sounds like what we said.
andrew gruel
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
And then what if I change one word?
You'd be like, so I'll give you a scenario.
Donald Trump gets on the phone in 2024 and he says, let's say it's September.
And he says to, you know, Giuliani or whoever, look, we got to get out the vote.
We got to get people to go knock on doors.
We need 50,000 votes.
It's the only way we're going to win this one.
We lost it last time.
He doesn't remember exactly what he said.
Audio gets dropped where Trump goes, we need to fake the vote.
We need 50,000 votes because we lost by that last time.
Get it done.
And they're like, whoa, and change one thing.
Get out to fake.
What happens then is you'll end up with Trump in court.
I'm using this as a hypothetical scenario.
Just it could be anybody.
And they'll say, did you speak with Giuliani, your legal advisor?
On or around September 5th in the afternoon.
I don't recall, I might have.
Okay, well I have the call logs here.
This is your call logs?
Yes, okay, I believe so.
Okay, yeah, the phone company confirms.
I'm gonna play for you some recordings that we've gotten, that were given to us, and then the recording will say, Donald Trump being like, hey Rudy, it's really good to hear from you, we got big plans, we're working on great stuff.
And then he's like, is this you?
He's like, sounds like me, yes.
And do you remember having this conversation?
Yes, I do remember this conversation.
Show clip one.
Sounds like you do remember it, yes.
Show clip two.
Sounds like you do remember it, yes.
Play clip three.
Sounds like you, yes.
You were talking about elections and the work you were doing, yes, of course.
And then play fake clip.
This is where, in the conversation that you've already agreed did happen, that you were part of, and these things were all true, in this clip, you tell Giuliani to fabricate votes.
No, that's not true, that's not real, but you've already confirmed everything else.
AI can do this right now.
And what people don't understand is you don't remember everything you said on every conversation, and you don't even know when you're being recorded.
Look, there will be instances where somebody is, like Trump's been recorded and they've released these audio tapes, and Trump's response is going to be in defense of what he said, not realizing he never said it.
andrew gruel
It's a good point.
It's a good point, and it's a scary prospect.
So what's the defense mechanism?
I mean, how do we get ahead of that?
tim pool
There's no defense.
If audio comes out that sounds somewhat reasonable, like something Trump may have said, Trump's response is not going to be, that's a deep fake audio, never said that, because that's not believable.
He'll say, well, you know, I said that because we didn't mean to fake it, because the natural instinct people have when they hear a recording of themselves is to try and explain away or justify why they said the things they said.
harrison smith
Yeah, it is weird.
We actually did a thing where a guy at Infowars took my voice and has me reading the Declaration of Independence, and it's freaky hearing your own voice say things that you've never said.
It's not a very comfortable position to be in.
I wonder how big of a problem that's going to be, though.
We've had Photoshop forever, and AI has made it extremely easy to make anybody say anything, but that's not necessarily a new technology.
I wonder how effective that's going to be.
tim pool
It's the ubiquity.
The fact that anyone can create an audio recording of any politician that sounds indistinguishable from the real thing.
We've already seen it happen with James O'Keefe.
They say a video that went viral claiming to be James O'Keefe alleging something, like we've uncovered this evidence and it was a totally fabricated video, it was imperfect.
Because these AIs are not that good yet.
But some of them are good enough, and if you put enough work into it, you can nail the speech.
So, for instance, Eleven Labs is the website where you can take 30 seconds of anyone talking, Upload it, and that's it.
Now you can write anything you want, and you'll get anyone to say it.
Just insert personality, and they'll say what you want them to say.
However, the inflection can be off, timing can be off, you have to use clever tricks like using ellipses, commas, record one sentence, erase it, record another sentence.
Sometimes the sentences aren't ended definitively, they end with an upward inflection, and then you're like, okay, that's weird.
But if someone actually spent a week using this program and generating the voice, you would not be able to tell the difference.
andrew gruel
I think the scarier prospect, though, is that even if it is proven false, as long as it's really good and it's made its way across the entire social media landscape, it's imprinted in at least 60% of Americans' minds, right?
And then nobody ever covers the story when it comes out as false.
That's the scary thing, right?
So it's really just adding authenticity to existing lies.
tim pool
Here, let's try this.
I just typed it out.
Let's see what happens.
Give it a second.
andrew gruel
This is robot Jordan Peterson.
unidentified
All hail the Lobster King.
andrew gruel
Talking my language.
tim pool
And I want to stress too, we don't have this pulled up Carter so, I want to stress too that this recording I have of Jordan Peterson's voice, I did not do anything.
Like I did not work on this at all.
I literally found like a podcast and just snipped out 30 seconds and put it in.
If you actually found clean, clear audio from Jordan himself and then uploaded it, it would sound way better.
harrison smith
So what's the solution?
Just record yourself at all times?
Constantly have a log?
tim pool
That makes it worse.
That makes it worse.
harrison smith
No, I mean, like, you record yourself, you can go back and go, here's what I actually said.
tim pool
It makes it worse because you're not going to be able to dig through 5,000 hours of audio recordings to figure out what you actually said and when it was said.
Someone, so, I mean, how many, what do I do?
We got an hour and a half Tim Poole Daily Show followed by three hours of Timcast IRL.
Four hours, four and a half hours, every day of me and various people talking.
If someone pulled up a transcript, I'd be like, I don't even know what you're talking about.
harrison smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Every day for three years?
unidentified
Nah.
phil labonte
We try to collect footage when we're in the studio.
We were just doing drums a couple months back and we, you know, just started recording when we were there and left it running until it filled up basically.
You do run into a problem where you've got so much material, you don't know where to look for stuff unless you actually start tagging stuff and saying, okay, mark this, mark this, mark this.
That was funny or something.
And it just becomes overwhelming.
So there's no way you're going to be able to just like record the things that you say and say, yes, I did say this.
No, I didn't say that.
tim pool
There's it's just there's just too much material too much content that yeah in skateboarding when you're filming a trick after the trick has landed you what they used to do because it was mini DV tapes is they would put their hand over and they would wave their hand then when you speed through the video to try and find out where the trick is you as soon as you see the hand wave in front of the camera you need to stop and It still kind of is that way, because you're gonna have 70 video files in your camera, and you're gonna be like, which one was the lander?
And so, you could either tag it in the camera, or you can wave your hand, and then you look, and what do you see?
All these clips, and then one with a thumbnail of a hand in front of it.
But there's no way you're going back through 300 clips throughout the day, seven hours of recorded content for the past couple days, to try and figure out where someone landed a trick.
It's just never gonna happen.
andrew gruel
If I'm a hostile country, I'm gonna use this to my advantage.
Right?
tim pool
Oh, I mean, people don't even think about the war elements.
andrew gruel
That's what I'm saying.
We're talking just like political foes.
But now, you know, I'm North Korea, China, any of these countries that we think are ultimately coming after us, and they are, I'm going to just completely manipulate everybody.
phil labonte
I feel like the whole Russia probe and stuff that the Clinton campaign did to attack Donald Trump was already like laying the groundwork or demonstrating.
I'm not so sure.
How much a foreign government is going to have a preference from one president to another?
I mean, I assume just to create chaos, right?
Yeah, that does.
I mean, that makes sense.
But I do think that it's it's more of a honey trap for or honeypot for a candidate to do something to an opposing candidate.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
And then for a foreign, you know, foreign country.
And now, I mean, Americans have probably never trusted the elections less, you know, after the last election with the, you know, mailing ballots and stuff like that.
I think that a lot of Americans are like, you know, I don't have a whole lot of faith in the country or faith in the election system at all.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story about the dystopian nightmare that we're about to embrace.
And it's probably mean to say, I shouldn't say that, Neuralink, first in human clinical trials, is open for recruitment.
And I want to soften this a little bit.
What's gonna happen right now is that people who are paralyzed, who are deaf, who can't see, are going to get a chance to have their lives back.
Or, you know, if some people... I don't want to imply that some people are, you know, miserable or unhappy.
Some people are totally fine and happy and they've adapted and they're living good lives.
But some people may be thinking, this is my chance to maybe walk again.
This is why Neuralink is awesome.
The scary thing is, Neuralink is the door That once you open it up, the path out leads to people isolating themselves in pods where they have feeding tubes full of pumping bug slime into their bellies while they live in the matrix by choice.
But this is the latest big news Elon Musk tweeted about it saying.
The first human patient will soon receive a Neuralink device.
This ultimately has the potential to restore full-body movement.
In the long term, Neuralink hopes to play a role in AI-risk civilization risk reduction by improving human-to-AI and human-to-human bandwidth by several orders of magnitude.
Imagine if Stephen Hawking had had this.
I also want to just point out what he's saying about AI risk civilization risk reduction.
He's saying that if humans integrate with the AI, it won't destroy us.
He's talking about integrating human brains with other human brains.
And I think Elon does great work.
And I think it's important that, you know, to a certain degree, like, we certainly want to cure people who are paralyzed with medical technology.
But I gotta say, man, It's gonna get scary!
You guys ready to plug your brain into the Matrix?
harrison smith
Yeah, absolutely not.
No, it's like, yeah, I like what Elon Musk is doing with Twitter.
I'm not about to let him put a computer in my head.
I mean, that's ridiculous.
And, you know, the other aspect of this is that the first people to take advantage of this will be, like, the elite, the people in the Take advantage of it in a way that is more than just like helping a paralyzed person walk, which, you know, obviously that's the way that they're going to introduce it because who would disagree with that?
But, you know, it's way beyond that when Neuralink is capable of in terms of like increasing your IQ or your All sorts of stuff and so, you know, you're going to have a sort of feedback loop where the people in the highest positions of power in the society get it first and that just solidifies their position as they, you know, continue to occupy that top spot.
tim pool
They say those who have quadriplegia due to cervical spine spinal cord injury or ALS may qualify.
So for now, I mean, we're not talking about plugging people's brains into the matrix.
Neuralink is actually going to be saving lives and curing ailments and I can respect that.
I know a lot of people are saying don't rag on Neuralink because it's going to provide treatment for a lot of people, and that's really, really cool.
My fear is just that if we ever get to the point where we can read right into a person's brain experiences, Yeah, no one's going to live in the real world anymore.
harrison smith
Well, the other aspect is, you know, the gray reset, the World Economic Forum, right?
You'll own nothing.
You'll have no privacy, but you'll be happy.
I mean, that dates back to the 1960s when you had Aldous Huxley saying, basically, they'll put you in a position where you ought not be happy, but you'll be made happy when they literally are releasing dopamine.
So you're sitting there on like a And, you know, this is the 1960s version, but you're sitting there on an assembly line, you should be, like, miserable, like, God, this is awful, but instead you're like, this is the best thing I've ever, this is the most fun I've ever had, is putting together these car parts, because they're literally activating the pleasure center of your brain as you're doing this.
tim pool
Do you guys, uh, you guys know what, uh, you know, you know the story of the monkey's paw, right?
harrison smith
Yes.
tim pool
The monkey's paw. It gives you three wishes, but it twists your wishes in awful ways.
Or there's just like needful things.
This trope of be careful what you wish for has been around for a long time.
I remember when I was little, I can't remember what movie we were watching. I was watching it with my family.
And it's like somebody gets a monkey's paw or whatever, and then they're like,
I wish for a million dollars!
And then all of a sudden, like, the person's wife walks out to pick up a newspaper and gets hit by a car, killing her
instantly.
And then the guy in the car is like, oh no, I'll give you a million dollars settlement or whatever, or an insurance payout.
They're like, you're being awarded a million dollars so that the wish is twisted.
My dad was always like, you know how you beat the monkey's ball?
You wish for happiness.
Wish that you were happy.
And what could it do to twist it?
And I was like, it'll put you in a mental institution in a straight jacket, bang your head on the wall and it goes, but you're happy.
And I'm like, that's an interesting way of viewing happiness.
But it's technically the truth.
That's the happiness they'll give you.
harrison smith
There's a Chuck Palahniuk short story that's kind of like that, where it's this phenomenon where all these kids in high school realize that if you, like, electrocute yourself, you basically, like, lobotomize yourself.
And so it's like a trend of kids, like, electrocuting themselves and lobotomizing themselves because they'd rather be happy and mentally incapacitated than have to deal with the stresses of real life.
tim pool
Yo, people are gonna be like, in the real world, I work at, you know, I work a menial job, but when I go home to my pod and plug in, man, I host this big nightly podcast with millions of followers.
It's really great, you know, to a morning show.
harrison smith
Yeah, and I mean that again, you know, this is what the people that are, whether we like it or not, planning our future, right?
The global government that already exists and is in operation right now.
They, you know, come out and say, they're like, you know, once we have all these robotics, people are going to be useless.
We have to find something for them to do.
We have to find something to occupy their time, which is exactly that.
It's put you in a pod, connect you to the Neuralink, and suddenly you're happy and playing video games.
tim pool
But you guys wouldn't want to play video games in the Neuralink?
harrison smith
No.
tim pool
I mean, do you play video games?
harrison smith
Yeah.
tim pool
What's your favorite game?
harrison smith
Baldur's Gate.
tim pool
You're playing Baldur's Gate right now?
harrison smith
I'm not playing the third one.
tim pool
You're not playing the third?
unidentified
No.
harrison smith
Wait, what are you talking about?
tim pool
How are you playing Baldur's Gate if you're not playing the new one?
harrison smith
I just played the one from 1995.
Well, that's a really great game.
tim pool
You wouldn't want to actually be able to experience being in the world of Baldur's Gate and throwing fireballs at dragons and... Uh... People are gonna... You may... Look, people say no.
harrison smith
Not if that means I'm putting a USB port in the back of my head.
tim pool
I think it'll be wireless.
harrison smith
Well, either way.
No, I think, but I mean, that is the danger.
I mean, we're already, even with the level of technology we have now, we're already experiencing this where like so many, even like my friends, like they get their fulfillment in the facsimile of success through video games.
phil labonte
Have you ever heard the phrase fully automated luxury communism?
harrison smith
I have.
phil labonte
That is the future that a lot of people want.
And that is the future that a plugged in Neuralink pod offers.
You don't have to do anything if you're laying in the pot.
It's fully automated.
Your serotonin and dopamine centers are stimulated for you.
So you are, you own nothing and you're happy and you literally just exist in the pot.
tim pool
Here's a Samuel Rucker with a Super Chat saying, don't forget that Neuralink can be used as an interface for a super soldier super suit like Iron Man.
phil labonte
That was literally the second Musk tweeted about, what's it called, then the next tweet that he had was a little clip from Star Wars with Luke Skywalker's hand.
tim pool
But you know, you wonder how it is that Tony Stark pilots the Iron Man suit.
Well it's going to be human, it's going to be what, computer brain interface.
But I do think The moment everybody says no.
Everybody says they won't do it.
Everybody said they wouldn't get cell phones.
Everybody's got a cell phone.
Everyone's like, I don't want a government tracking device in my pocket.
Now I have three.
phil labonte
Only old people will say no.
Only people our age and older.
andrew gruel
Oh, I think a lot of people want this.
Like, I mean, we look at it through a critical lens, but I think that actually there's a significant portion of Americans who want to be lazy and they want to immediately reach this nirvana that is being sold to us.
phil labonte
Our future is Alita Battle Angel.
tim pool
People will sell Experiences?
andrew gruel
Yeah.
tim pool
So like, you're a chef.
So what you do is, what you have to do is plug in the Neuralink, cook the fancy meal, film it, and then eat it.
And it records what your brain is saying as you're eating this food, and then that experience of eating this delicious meal can be then sent to the game world, where it now appears on the menu.
Like someone has to record the brain patterns to give to another person before it can... You can't just go into this video game, this Neuralink world and be like, I want a filet mignon.
Someone's got to record what a brain experiences, what signals are sent when someone is eating a delicious medium-rare filet mignon.
andrew gruel
So basically, this is a way to become vegan without being vegan, right?
tim pool
Oh, I mean, dude, you're gonna eat the bugs.
Come on.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
You're gonna go in your pod, and you're gonna plug the feeding tube into your neck, and then you're gonna zonk out, and then you're gonna live for, like, I don't, there's the idea that they could do, um...
Make you experience, like time dilation in Neuralink, like speed things up so that in the real world it's, you know, eight hours of sleep but you live for 80 years or something like that.
I don't know about that.
That may or may not be true.
But you're gonna plug in, you're gonna get home from work or whatever and you're gonna be like, finally I can go back to being president again.
Plug in your feeding tube and then wake up as the president.
andrew gruel
Oh my god.
You know what's funny?
This is a rudimentary, like San Francisco, this is San Francisco, right?
Where everybody's being given drugs and they're laying on the streets and they don't have jobs, but now we're actually going to turn it into something a lot more digital and effective.
It's a scary thing.
tim pool
I think the big hurdle for Neuralink, in terms of commercial ubiquity, it has to be wireless.
I don't, like, there's already the problem of human rejection.
So there are people who will cut open their fingers and put neodymium magnets in their fingers and then sew it shut.
And this gives you, I think it's, some people, I think it's called electroperception, or perhaps electro-sense.
And the magnet inside your finger reacts to electromagnetic fields, giving you the ability to feel EMF waves.
It gives you an additional sense.
I think it's funny that people say we have five senses.
We actually have substantially more than five senses, but you know, whatever.
It's like, you know, what do they say?
Touch, smell, see, and hear, whatever, and taste.
But you also have balance.
You also have temperature.
There's a bunch of other ones.
But anyway...
If you want to feel electromagnetic fields, they're the people who do this.
So, you know, I don't recommend it, but the body rejects it.
They take a magnet, they coat it in some polymer, stick it in your finger, sew it shut, but slowly over time your body pushes it out and then eventually it breaks and just rips out of your finger.
If we're going to do a Neuralink, how do you stop the body from rejecting it?
I think what they're doing right now with Neuralink and the stuff that I've seen is they're very, very thin copper wires that just rest on the nerve connections, something like that.
The big challenge for Neuralink going commercial and ubiquitous is going to be, no one's going to want to get surgery.
I mean, maybe if it's like a tattoo, if they're like, look, we take this thing and we go boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
And we put these, these, uh, you know, copper wires in this and super easy and we can do it.
It takes 15 minutes.
Maybe people would do it.
phil labonte
As long as they're drilling quarter size holes in your skull, people are going to have a little bit of ick factor.
And they're going to be a little apprehensive about that.
harrison smith
But people are already getting the chips in their hands.
I mean, you know, the skin is not... It's been like a decade.
Yeah, it's been a while.
phil labonte
There will be people that are going to go ahead and say, we'll do it.
I'll do it right now.
There will be people that'll definitely do that.
There's, without a question, people that are biohacking and stuff like that.
harrison smith
Standing in line for the orb thing, right?
Yeah.
People are going to be into this.
phil labonte
Absolutely.
harrison smith
So, I mean, I guess it's just, it is like literally just like a spiritual thing where you have to like reject the falsehood even if it's pleasant, even if it feels good, even if it seems like a easier experience than real life.
You have to recognize that it's not real and reject it on that ground alone.
tim pool
I want to jump to the next story.
unidentified
Ladies and gentlemen, and now for the coup de grâce!
tim pool
from nzherald.co.nz Donald Trump suggests feeding migrants to alligators to fix overrun border security Spoiler, no we didn't, but I absolutely love the headline.
phil labonte
I am curious how many migrants it would take to be fed alligators before they would stop.
harrison smith
This is what Trump posted.
tim pool
Trump posted a meme on Truth Social.
phil labonte
Disavow.
tim pool
He wrote, problem solved, and it says, new border security, and it's a bunch of alligators.
phil labonte
Disavow.
tim pool
Those are alligators?
What's the difference?
Crocodiles have skinnier faces, right?
I'm not an animal zoologist.
phil labonte
They both look really hungry.
tim pool
We'll work for food.
Trump did not suggest feeding migrants to alligators because their headline implies Donald Trump said, what if we capture a migrant and then throw them into an alligator den?
What Trump was saying is a meme based on an old story.
This is from New York Times 2019.
Shoot migrants legs and build alligator moat behind Trump's ideas for the border.
It was a widely reported story that Donald Trump wanted to put a bunch of alligators in the Rio Grande.
This is not real life.
These are hoaxes.
The media is full of crap.
And once again, they're full of crap.
Trump posted a joke, but I just, I absolutely love the headline.
Like the reality these people live in, I mean, no wonder Howard Stern hates Trump.
I mean, if I legitimately thought Trump was going to kidnap migrants and throw them into alligator pits, I'd be really concerned as well.
andrew gruel
Well, this goes back to consuming the headlines, digesting these crazy headlines, and then people actually believe it.
This will probably be brought up in one of the debates as an actual question.
phil labonte
They're going to say that he threw them into the alligator's mouth, is what they're going to say.
tim pool
So now we have this one.
Look at this tweet from Bill Malugan.
It's a total free-for-all in Eagle Pass right now, mass illegal crossing taking place for
over an hour and a half, almost two years to the day we saw 15,000 Haitians under the
bridge in Del Rio.
We now have thousands of predominantly Venezuelans gathering under Eagle Pass bridge.
Yeah, I'm sorry dudes, like, the Republicans don't have your back.
Democrats don't have your back.
They're selling you out.
They're gutting the system.
And they're doing it with a smile on their face.
So if this is the situation we have, and to be completely honest, I would say Trump joking about it is inappropriate.
Inappropriate.
Why?
Well, the joke's funny, but we need real action.
This is a desperate situation.
There's an emergency declaration in Eagle Pass.
Take a look at this in the Daily Mail.
Eagle Pass, Texas declares state of emergency as shocking photos show it being overwhelmed by migrants with 4,000 streaming across the border today.
4,000 today.
You know why the mayor wants money?
Why he declared a state of emergency?
He wants money from the federal government to help these people and bring more in.
Yeah, they're not stopping it.
They're not issuing a state of emergency to be like, help, help, it must stop.
They're saying, no, state of emergency, we need more money.
Give us more so we can send them to your home in New York.
unidentified
Yeah.
harrison smith
And this is, I mean, that's what Alejandro Mayorca is like, you know, testifies to where they're like, you know, you're doing nothing to stop this invasion.
He's like, actually, we made an app that makes it very easy for people to come in legally.
And it's like, that's the opposite of what we want you to do, dude.
Like that's literally the opposite.
And I mean, it's the same thing that's happening in the Italian Island where there's now, yeah, Lampedusa, where there's now 18,000 migrants to a native population of 6,000.
Yeah.
I mean, so this is a coordinated plan, right?
This is a coordinated, well-funded, these NGOs and supranational organizations like the UN are paying for people to travel, instructing them how to get around the American law, every single one of these organizations should be
rooted out and arrested and charged with conspiring to circumvent American laws.
None of these people are actual asylum seekers.
None of them are refugees.
tim pool
No, they're economic migrants.
harrison smith
Yeah.
phil labonte
So, I mean, this is- There's some Chinese that are coming over the southern
border that are coming as actually refugees.
tim pool
But yeah, but like generally speaking, generally speaking, 90 plus percent are not refugees.
They are economic migrants, especially with Lampedusa.
The UN issued this report in like 2017 or whatever.
These are economic migrants seeking jobs in Europe.
That's it.
And the media lies and calls them refugees over and over and over again because they're evil.
And they don't look at what's happening when, look, you take a group of people who have one set of morals and another group with a different set of morals, and they fight.
We want to avoid that.
We want people to live together.
And so you look at what's happening in Europe and you have these stabbings, these murders, these horrible crimes.
It's like, well, you're not properly assisting the integration of people into your country.
You're opening your border and letting them run straight through.
What happens?
Violent crime.
And then that breeds more racism.
People take issue and they assume race is the problem when the reality is two different cultures that don't mesh.
And how about the reality of nature?
People who don't have stuff are going to take it when they want it.
So in Lampedusa, you've got these videos of people setting up barricades.
What are they supposed to do?
These people come to the island, and now they're like, now we need food, now we need shelter, now we need stuff.
And if they can't fabricate it from thin air, they're going to take it from someone.
andrew gruel
Yeah, and let's even zoom out from the kind of the political debate regarding this issue, and let's just look at the logistics.
Logistically, this is impossible to handle for a country, large or small.
So just pull back out of this and just recognize we cannot do this because we're not set up, we don't have the infrastructure necessary, strictly even from that perspective.
phil labonte
New York has basically buckled under the busing of just a portion of the migrants that are coming to Texas.
And the city that has the financial services sector based in it, they have, the city itself has city taxes, then there's state taxes as well.
And they can't Produce, you know, they can't take care of migrants.
They can't they can't take you know to welcome the the migrants that just the ones they're getting it should indicate to the rest of America that these are massive problems that a handful of states are dealing with, you know people in New Hampshire aren't making a stink about the people that are coming into the country because it doesn't affect them right and New York they were Very happy to be as nimby as it gets.
You know, they were like, you know, you horrible people, you horrible racists down there on the border.
Texas, you're full of racists.
How dare you turn these people?
How dare you not take care of them?
And then they get a portion of them and the infrastructure is buckling.
They're falling apart.
And now they're calling their mayor Donald Trump.
tim pool
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
They're calling him Trump?
phil labonte
I saw people saying that he had Donald Trump's... But the point is, the rest of the country should be able to see this and say, OK, I at least can understand.
Because obviously New York can't handle it.
They're buckling under the pressure.
So if New York City can't handle it with the infrastructure and the money and everything they do, you can't expect, you know, Texas and New Mexico and Arizona to handle that the type of influx it's not possible and that's that's the beauty of what?
harrison smith
busing them to New York did is you can't avoid it right because these problems that are so massive in a place like Texas where you have Thousands of miles of unoccupied land you can put them on a base somewhere you can put them in a tent somewhere and the the You know, they don't actually affect the daily lives.
Although then, you know place like El Paso they obviously do Eagle Pass they obviously do and And it is purely a matter of choice, right?
Like we're choosing to have this happen, and I think the Haitian example is a great example how there was 15,000 people, it was a crisis, it went on and on, and then there was like the scandal with the whipping, it got embarrassing, the next day they were gone.
The next day it got taken care of.
So it's not a matter of we can't handle this, we can't do this, this is all being done on purpose, this is all a choice that we're making.
And I honestly don't see an end to this to the extent that why wouldn't the people in charge Want to keep a constant cycle going where you've got the first world producing excess amounts of goods Shipping it to the third world keeping their birth rates high a pathway to where those people in the third world are moving into the first world in the first world the cultural and and spiritual impetus is to strip them of all of their Cultural identity fold them into this, you know global homogenized soulless plastic society where the people that come in
Don't have kids either by choice or because they've been poisoned with the poison the food and waters so they die out within a couple generations only to be replaced by another so you've got this like laundry cycle continuously going where nobody has any cultural Staying power, basically.
So there's never enough people with enough culture to overthrow the ruling class.
It's just a constant influx of new people being brought in, deracinated, destroyed politically and spiritually, only to be replaced by another crop of people.
phil labonte
I think it's simpler than that.
It's an eternal win for the Democrats.
The Democrats look good when they say, oh, we should take care of people that come here.
They're all refugees, etc., etc.
They always have the nice sounding emotional pull, and that pays dividends.
The people that come in, they're like, well, the Democrats are the people that
want to have the services that provided me with help when I got in or helped with my family,
helped me get my family in.
It's an eternal win for Democrats.
It's a loser for the American people.
Right?
The American people are the ones that are paying for this.
The American people have to make sure that the people that come into the U.S.
have places to live and they have to share resources and jobs and all sorts of things.
Low-skilled workers coming to the U.S.
makes it harder to get jobs for Americans that are here.
That's something that's clearly obvious.
It's a bad thing for the American people, but as long as there are Enclaves of wealthy people that are looking for, you know, migrant workers and stuff like that or that are looking to vote with their heart and stuff like that.
You're gonna have Democrats that are gonna be like, hey, we can't be mean to these people.
We can't, we can't be, we can't turn them away.
We have to take care of them, etc.
So it's literally an eternal win for Democrats as it destroys the country.
andrew gruel
I just don't understand why we haven't started just sending everyone to Canada.
tim pool
That's a great point, actually.
andrew gruel
Hey, NAFTA.
tim pool
The Canadian government would not be able to reject it.
The super woke, they'd just be like, oh, you know, we welcome diversity.
It's like, alright.
New York's not far away, man.
It's a couple hours.
andrew gruel
Well, I was going to say, it's about the same flight, right?
From El Paso to New York versus El Paso up into Canada.
tim pool
Just get some buses.
Bus ride up to Montreal is only a couple hours.
Beautiful.
I don't know.
It'll be interesting.
People don't realize this, though.
There actually is a border crisis for Canada.
Migrants are going to Canada.
Where?
In upstate New York.
I'm pretty sure that's where it's at.
They're illegally crossing the border because it's easier to get into Canada than it is to get into the United States, obviously.
Canada's got- There was a video I saw where some people just like drove across the border and then tried sneaking in that way and they got caught.
But it really is that easy.
I mean, what do you think?
Like all this empty wilderness?
They're gonna catch people walking just through the woods?
There's actually a photo that went viral on Reddit a while ago where the border from Canada to the U.S.
was a small chain, literally just a chain between two posts that was like a foot off the ground and a sign hanging from it saying Canadian-U.S.
border.
And it was like someone lived there and they were like, yeah, if I go to my backyard, I'll be in the United States.
And you just literally walk in.
It's like, what do you do?
Maybe.
Maybe the solution is we just ask, hey, Canada, we got a bunch of people.
How would you like to have a bunch of people?
andrew gruel
Man, they got the space.
tim pool
Yeah, there's a lot of oil up there in the northern territories or whatever, wherever in Canada.
andrew gruel
Amazing seafood.
phil labonte
They're going to find out that if you go to Canada and ask for health care, that you might get killed.
And people will be like, no, I don't want to go.
tim pool
I don't know, I thought Canada was very, uh, uh, progressive.
phil labonte
Well, made.
Medical assistance and dying.
tim pool
Yeah, if you're homeless.
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
Remember, like, you have a house?
I don't.
Mmm, have you considered the suicide booth?
It's funny that Futurama thought it was a joke, I guess, but they did predict in the future.
Although, for them, it was the year 3000, and it's already happening in 2023.
harrison smith
Well, to be fair, in Futurama, they did say America's favorite suicide booth since 2008, so... Oh, is that what it really said?
Yeah, so they nailed that one.
No, it's pretty sick what's going on, but again, you know, it's not a coincidence this is happening in America and Europe at exactly the same time with two completely different excuses for why it's happening, but also both excuses actually are predicated on actions that America and or Europe has taken, right?
We started the wars in the Middle East that has led to the immigration crisis.
A lot of the countries to the south have been collapsed as a consequence of intervention by the CIA.
So they create the problem, then the solution is basically to destroy our civilization over it.
And also it's the only civilization in the world that has high living standards that we have because, you know, People who are used to having a much lower living standard are happy to have just a slight increase here in America, which would be a major decrease to the average American.
So they're willing to sort of put up with having less than Americans and Europeans would
have, and they also don't have the cultural and – I don't know to what extent it's
racial, but the cultural heritage of freedom and free speech and all of these European
ideals that were developed over millennia that are anathema to the people that want
to control everybody and want silent complicity to their really anti-human demands.
So yeah.
tim pool
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Steven Says says, First!
That's right, buddy.
For $2, you get the shoutout as the first super chat.
Congratulations.
Unfortunately, to the other people who have chatted, you didn't get it first.
Sorry.
Paps McGee says, Did I get the first?
Love y'all.
Sorry, sir.
You did not.
Yes Man says, Tim, you mentioned at one point that you have too many eggs.
Have you considered appropriating a freeze dryer and turning them into powder?
On another note, will you give your opinion on the toilet meme?
I don't know what that is.
I don't know that one.
And, uh, we, the eggs get eaten.
I'm just saying, like, we here, we're getting like 30-something eggs per day.
That's a lot.
And then, uh, we eventually either build them up and then just eat them all at once, or people just take them.
carter banks
I ate a bunch the other day.
tim pool
Yeah, we gotta make deviled eggs again.
That's always the best.
Because it's like, if I'm gonna have breakfast, I could have three eggs.
And so, you know, it's like three eggs and bacon or something.
It's like kind of a lot, right?
unidentified
But if you give me deviled eggs, I can have like 15.
andrew gruel
Yep.
tim pool
It's just like a big plate.
30 halves, you know, and everything.
I just keep eating them.
phil labonte
So good.
tim pool
I know.
Best thing ever.
phil labonte
All right.
tim pool
Clint Torres says, howdy people!
Howdy!
Amos Moses says, I don't like the idea of a dress code, but, like, three-fourths of the illegal immigrants dress better than Fetterman after trekking through the wilderness.
I mean, but that's literally true.
unidentified
It is.
tim pool
But, like, they're wearing jeans and t-shirts, and, like, you'll see a guy wearing, like, a long-sleeve shirt looks kind of okay, and wearing jeans, and they're walking and waving, and it's like, it's infuriating, they just open the border and let them all come in without any kind of process, but Fetterman looks like he just woke up.
harrison smith
Yeah, that's just incredibly frustrating.
I don't get what it is, what grand demoralization scheme they're trying to pull off here by just lowering standards across the board constantly.
I don't even get what the argument's supposed to be for it, but it's that Fetterman guy.
He's annoying, isn't he?
tim pool
Shredkowski says, Chef Gruel, I learned a lot about cooking and seed oil since you were on last.
Food prep has never been easier.
The vinegar eggs thing.
That was the secret.
andrew gruel
Yeah, that's it.
Acid in the eggs.
On anything, at the end.
But I did get a lot of questions.
People were like, do I add it in the beginning, do I add it during, or do I add it at the end?
Always at the end.
So lemon juice, acid.
tim pool
How do we cook Brussels sprouts?
What do you do?
andrew gruel
Brussels sprouts, you gotta blanch them first, right?
So the key with Brussels sprouts is you cut them in half, okay?
And then you cut the bottoms off, and then you cook them in boiling salted water for about 45 seconds, then shock it in ice water, and then from there you fry it.
People fry it from the raw state, and then the outside overcooks and is bitter, and the inside is still hard.
unidentified
Really?
andrew gruel
Yeah, so by cooking it in boiling water, you're cooking it from the inside out so it's an even cook all the way through and then a light fry.
tim pool
Really?
The restaurant out here, they put peanut butter and jelly on them.
unidentified
Oh, I love it.
tim pool
It's so good.
andrew gruel
I love it.
tim pool
I love it.
They don't actually call it peanut butter and jelly.
They call it a peanut sauce with a cranberry reduction, but I'm like, you know, they're peanut butter and jelly brussel sprouts and they're good.
andrew gruel
We'll have to do some brussel sprout chips to go.
tim pool
Well, so, I noticed something, like, recently, they're different, because normally we get them, like, they're so good, I think they changed chefs, and whatever the chef is doing, he's missing something, that's why I asked.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm like, I think he's missing something.
andrew gruel
A lot of times, chefs will just deep fry it, and that's, like, that, I mean, yeah, fat's flavor, but still, that's cheating.
tim pool
Cheating!
I'll take it!
I love Brussels sprouts, man.
We had, uh, we went to a Peruvian place, me and my girlfriend the other day, and we had, um, sweet, uh, uh, sweet, uh, Thai, Thai chili sauce.
andrew gruel
Yeah.
Yeah, sweet chili sauce.
tim pool
Yeah.
Oh, man.
andrew gruel
Non-plomb.
tim pool
Insanely good.
unidentified
So good.
phil labonte
All right.
tim pool
NeuroDivergent says, Tim, please talk about the 1 million march for children today.
Thousands of videos and photos from X, uh, on X from Ottawa, our capital, and other places.
It's the biggest thing since the convoy.
phil labonte
Wow.
tim pool
I did see some stuff about it.
I saw there were some protesters, too.
phil labonte
Yeah, there were communists saying that children were theirs.
I tweeted about that.
tim pool
That's creepy.
phil labonte
I don't remember exactly what the chant was, but essentially they were saying that, you know, your children are ours.
And that's literally what the left believes.
They believe that they should be raising your children because you might raise them incorrectly, you stinking bigot.
Alright, what do we got?
tim pool
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, we knew Veritas was dead the moment the board foolishly thought they stood a chance without James.
It's nice to see morons get what they deserve.
So I don't know if this is confirmed just yet, but there is a viral tweet going around where someone said, Veritas is ceasing all operations.
And so far there's just one individual Twitter account reporting this.
Maybe there's more information out, we'll see.
What have we here?
Horsad says, Tim, sorry if you've already talked about it.
Wanted to hear your thoughts on Eduardo Verastegui running for president in Mexico and also Tim Ballard getting the Russell Brand treatment.
Have them back.
We did talk about Tim Ballard.
Eduardo seems like a good dude.
I don't know enough about him.
All I can say is Sound of Freedom is awesome.
He was here.
He seems like a great guy.
And I don't really have a strong opinion on the Mexican presidential race because I don't know enough about it.
But from, like, if someone said, like, who would you want to have?
I'd be like, well, I know Eduardo.
He's a nice guy.
Like, I guess it's all I can do.
Him?
But reality is, I don't know enough about his politics or anything happening there to, you know, to know.
But basically, one of the guys behind Son of Freedom is running for president in Mexico.
I don't know.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, that's what it is, right.
Bender the Offender.
Uh, Bender the Offender, that's the earlier iteration, he eventually became the gender Bender, says, I have a theory on why so many illegal migrants are being let through.
Due to low military applicants, they may be trying to recruit the fighting-age males that enter the country and guarantee them citizenship.
harrison smith
Well, they are doing that for sure.
Yeah, but they're not doing it enough!
No, but they've said that they're, like, because of the low recruitment, they're starting to recruit illegal aliens.
Not necessarily illegal aliens, but foreigners, you know.
tim pool
They're basically saying you can get citizenship through military service.
harrison smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Basically they're saying service guarantees citizenship.
harrison smith
Yeah, we're following the path of the downfall of Rome.
tim pool
Is that what Rome did?
They brought in the outside forces to fight for them?
harrison smith
Yeah, because, and they're also, you know, the forces that aren't going to have any compunction about violating the Constitution and attacking American citizens.
andrew gruel
Yeah, that's a recipe for disaster.
tim pool
Yep!
unidentified
Oh boy!
harrison smith
And they're letting them become police officers too now.
So, you know, this is the private militia of the elites to be used against the American people.
tim pool
Mayor of Basteville says, my cousin T's pumpkin spice pancake mix arrived today.
My daughter and I had them for dinner and they were succulent.
I don't know if succulent is the right word for pancakes.
It's not, right?
andrew gruel
Yeah, if there's a lot of syrup on there.
tim pool
I guess.
andrew gruel
Doesn't succulent refer to like more like, you know... Like biting into a ripe mango.
tim pool
Yeah.
andrew gruel
Or a pawpaw fruit.
tim pool
Yeah, something juicy.
andrew gruel
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Oh, the pawpaws everywhere.
Crazy.
Do you guys know what a pawpaw is?
Hillbilly banana.
They look like...
andrew gruel
Like baby mangoes almost.
Green potatoes?
tim pool
Yeah, baby mangoes.
harrison smith
But it's crazy because if you find one... Is that what I'm seeing on the ground out here?
tim pool
The green?
Well, there's also black walnut everywhere.
harrison smith
The black walnut are balls.
unidentified
Yeah, and the pawpaw are ovals.
tim pool
But you get one that's ripe, you can just peel it right open and it looks like mango.
It's nuts and you can just eat it.
But mango is better.
But you know, I'll take pawpaw, it's fine.
They're in the same family, right?
andrew gruel
Yeah, and also you can bake the pawpaw, too, into like breads and custards and all that, so it's an amazing base flavor.
tim pool
Yeah, it's really good.
And there's probably like 50,000 of them in our backyard, no joke.
They fall on your head when you walk through the trees.
harrison smith
That's amazing.
I was just gonna say, it makes a great name for a grandfather, too.
Pawpaw?
andrew gruel
Yeah, grandfather bread.
tim pool
Yeah, but I guess I was reading that the reason you don't get them in the, uh... You can't get them in stores.
There's a lot of fruits people don't get in stores.
Because they're hard to cultivate, and they break really easily.
So, they're pollinated by beetles and flies, and they're good right about now into mid-October, and then they're gone.
And they're just rotting on the ground, so it's like not something you can easily get.
But right now!
Now's the time, baby!
Now's pawpaw pie, pawpaw bread, pawpaw mash!
It is pawpaw season.
harrison smith
That's like loquats or kumquats in Texas.
Because they get rotten so easily, they're impossible to, like, ship or sell, so you just gotta pick them off the tree.
tim pool
There's also probably, like, 7 million grapes.
I'm not even exaggerating.
They're not that big.
They're called frost grapes.
They're super tart.
You're supposed to freeze them or something, but they're... I don't know.
This freezing didn't do anything.
They're still tart.
But they're just everywhere.
andrew gruel
Oh, those are like the labrusco grapes.
That's for, like, a sweet wine.
Start making wine?
tim pool
Well, yeah, there's videos of people, they take the frost grapes and they make wine with it.
Because it's all, it's literally, you walk outside, you're gonna see 8,000 grapes anywhere you look in a patch.
There's one tree that's just covered in grapes.
I mean, imagine...
Two million grapes in a big bushel hanging from a tree.
You walk up under the leaves and you're like, holy crap.
But they're not big, they're small.
andrew gruel
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
And they got pits.
I don't know where they came from, they just appeared.
They weren't here last year.
But I'm down for it.
We gotta do something with them, I guess.
They're really big and they're ready to be eaten right now.
And so, I think now's about the time.
And then first frost is usually when they say they're perfect.
andrew gruel
Yeah, ice wine.
tim pool
Yeah.
andrew gruel
Yeah, because it freezes all the water in the grapes so you're left with the sugar so then you crush them when they're frozen and then it extracts all the sugar.
tim pool
It converts some kind of acid in it when it freezes.
andrew gruel
Yeah.
tim pool
Which causes a tartness.
I like tart.
You know, I like sour candy and everything like that.
unidentified
Alright, let's grab some more Super Chats.
tim pool
Gary Marks says, UAW on strike!
Fighting to get our wages and benefits back on track from the 2008 disaster.
Wow, it's been that long, huh?
That's crazy.
Grofty says, peck that like button.
You do it.
Brandon Amson says, Tim, if you're building an anti-Times Square, can you please call it Space Circle?
Space Circle, haha.
Uh, I mean, Ian's idea was to call it Public Square.
Which sounds really cool.
But that's up to Public Square, that's a brand name, you know what I mean?
But that could be cool.
Seriously, JayCases, how can the lack of action at the southern border not be treasonous?
The government is actively assisting a foreign invasion of its own soil.
Against your wishes, too.
But there are too many people in this country that vote for Democrats, and you know them.
There you go.
unidentified
What are you gonna do?
harrison smith
Secede.
tim pool
That was their argument.
Democrats proposed that in the Boston Globe story, if Donald Trump gets elected.
harrison smith
I mean, there's certain things that only the government can take care of.
Me as an individual, I can't patrol our border.
If you're going to boil the purpose of government down to one single thing, it's to protect the borders.
If they're not doing that, I don't see why we're paying taxes to them.
tim pool
David Murdock Art says, Drag the Dead is on sale this week on Steam.
We just pushed our final update, the social credit score and equitable leaderboard.
No matter how low you place, you'll still get first.
We're all mad here.
Let's build counterculture.
Pick it up.
Really cool, man.
Drag the Dead.
Video game on Steam.
Right on.
Grandstanding and hotdogging says, Hey Tim, love the show.
Cousin T is a grifter.
He knew nothing about politics.
He didn't even know the ingredients of his pancakes or what bleached versus unbleached flour was.
Do not do business with him.
You're above that.
Well, I don't know nothing about that.
What I know of Terrence seems to be an okay guy.
Not sure why, you know, people would call him a grifter because he didn't know enough about politics.
He actually told that story.
He wasn't a big political guy, but then he started pushing back and that got him involved.
And then when they canceled Aunt Jemima, he says, I'm going to, I'm going to do it myself.
I dig it.
But I don't know, whatever.
andrew gruel
And keep in mind, to his defense, in co-packing, when they change ingredients sometimes, it's like difficult to actually get through the manufacturer, so I'm sure he had a set recipe, and just for the purposes of co-packing, they may have changed some of the ingredients without him knowing.
unidentified
Yeah, there you go.
tim pool
What do we got?
Callum Dimmick says, UK just went full 1984 with the Internet Safety Act they just passed as well.
Demands the ability to read all private messages and control what can be called true.
phil labonte
Wow.
tim pool
Well, V for Vendetta, you know?
That's how they get there.
phil labonte
What can be called truth?
That's a... That's a heck of a phrase, huh?
unidentified
Yeah, right?
tim pool
Shane H. Wilder says, I want to applaud Rumble.
It takes balls of brass to tell a government to go stick it for the linemen.
Yeah, but Rumble also told, didn't they tell France to go stick it or something?
There was another country where they were just like, get out of here.
Yeah, I think France was like, ban, ban RT.
And he was like, Chris was like, no.
Get out of here, dude.
I think it was France.
I don't know.
I don't want to be smirched the good name of France unless they actually did it.
Saddle Laughing Tramp says, what is happening to Russell Brand proves that authoritarians gotta authoritate.
Yup.
Like, let's just say that one more time.
A UK government member of parliament contacted social media networks and said they contacted other networks to take away Russell Brand's income.
That's crazy.
Rumble's an American company.
They're like, hey, we're a foreign country.
Stop allowing them to make money.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Get out of here, dude.
That's evil, man.
That's dark stuff.
That's so evil.
unidentified
It's crazy.
tim pool
I do think he probably has a claim against YouTube.
Russell needs to file charges against the UK government and all capitulating parties.
I'm sure his fans will support him.
I'll chip in myself.
Actions like this are unacceptable and must be fought.
I do think he probably has a claim against YouTube.
I don't think YouTube is allowed to strip- like to break their contract with you.
I mean, the argument they'll make is it says in there that they can break the contract at any point for any reason, but I think some courts reject that.
Like, because it's like an unenforceable clause or something like that, but I don't know for sure.
I'm not a lawyer.
Gary G says, Joe Rogan needs to have an emergency podcast with Russell Brand ASAP.
Yeah, you know, he should.
That would be very controversial, wouldn't it?
Waffle Sensei, Tim, with what you know about YouTube's rules and policies, can Russell sue Google for some kind of breach of contract?
Yeah, so this is the issue with, it was, I'm forgetting the guy's name.
Who was the guy who, he's the vaccine reporter guy from one of the New York Times.
I can't remember his name.
He got banned from Twitter because the government demanded it and then he sued and won.
andrew gruel
Oh, Alex Berenson.
tim pool
Yes, Berenson, there you go, there you go.
The issue there was that they cited a specific reason as to why they banned him.
If they said, for no reason at all, he's banned, then they probably would have been okay.
But because they cited a reason, now they had to back up and justify that reason.
That's the thing with YouTube.
YouTube said offline behavior is taken into account as well.
YouTube will now have to justify what they're claiming as offline behavior.
And if they then assert that Russell Brand's behavior is true, which is basically what they're saying, that's defamation.
Russells should sue YouTube for defamation per se.
Defamation per se is harsher than defamation.
A lot of people are like, you can't sue for defamation because the actual mail standard times v. Sullivan.
Ah, that doesn't apply to defamation per se.
Defamation per se doesn't require damages either.
If you accuse someone of having an infectious disease or of having committed a serious crime, that's defamation per se.
It's so egregious that the claims themselves warrant heightened status or whatever.
What YouTube has said is that Russell Brand's offline beh- They said- When they said, we take offline behavior into account, they have outright stated, the accusations against Russell Brand are true.
Okay.
Russell Brand can now sue them and say, they're not true, they're accusations.
And you've made a false statement of fact about my behavior off- off the platform.
They're- That's a defamation per se.
I mean, YouTube is accusing Russell Brand of raping women.
Russell should sue!
He's got the money.
All you gotta do is write a check to a lawyer and say, have at it.
Not the lawyer.
Do the heavy lifting.
I think you should sue for defamation.
I think more people need to be creative with their lawsuits and just sue.
Fight back.
Vmarine says, moved out to the country.
Came home today and found my dog Frank passed away.
Had to go out and bury him.
Please give a shout out to Frank the Tank.
Shout out Frank the Tank.
Rest in peace.
We hardly knew you.
Gravity says, Rumble needs love.
I do.
Give them a fair shake.
It's pretty good now, and they are working on it.
Good progress, too.
Rumble gets better and better every day.
We put all our videos, all our clips are up on Rumble.
We use Rumble infrastructure, and we use Parallel Economy for TimCast.com.
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When you sign up, not only are you supporting the work we do, We use Rumble infrastructure and the payment processor is actually affiliated with Dan Bongino and Rumble.
It's called Parallel Economy.
It is an alternate Parallel Economy payment processor.
We need to support these companies.
More people need to utilize Parallel Economy and that's what we do.
That's who we use.
So, uh, we are trying to shore up our defenses against cancellation by utilizing the things that are being built by these great individuals over at Rumble, Parallel Economy, the work that Dan Bongino is doing.
We're all very, very grateful for all of this.
So, uh, get involved, man.
Not to mention, when you're a member, the Discord server.
I want to give a shout out to the Discord server again.
Because the stuff that people are doing on the Discord server is incredible.
They're hosting pre-shows, after-shows.
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Basically, all these like-minded individuals are networking with each other, sharing resources, and building cool stuff.
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Sign up at TimCast.com.
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Well, there's no guarantee we'll read everyone's.
Adrian Horta-Martinez says, Tim, I can't afford a billboard so your platform gets my extra money.
Greg Abbott has yet to acknowledge allowing Terranos Houston, also known as Colony Ridge, be built for illegals ran and backed by cartels.
I'll keep doing this as long as my pocket allows.
I did cover that story earlier.
The Colony Ridge, they call it, they're basically building a city for illegal immigrants.
And they're doing this thing where it's cash, a couple hundred bucks down, for a loan on a house, or like a piece of property, at 15%, some ridiculous number.
And it's gonna cause a collapse, there's gonna be people who can't have food, they're not gonna be able to afford to eat, and then you get chaos and violence.
Sad, sad stories, man.
God's Other Son says, Howard Stern is literally everything he used to make fun of back when he was still funny and relevant 20 to 30 years ago.
That is the case.
He is no longer relevant.
Alright, we got Ginger McIsaac.
How do you pronounce this?
Catanji?
Brown, is that how you pronounce her name?
phil labonte
Catanji.
tim pool
Catanji.
Oh, they put an M in there.
Needs to recuse herself on any Proposition 19 case.
She knows not what a woman is.
phil labonte
She needs to step down.
She's a judge, and she can't tell what a woman is.
That is a massive problem.
How can you rely on this person to make decisions if they will not decide what a woman and a man is?
If they can't distinguish between the two, she needs to step down.
It's atrocious.
tim pool
This is why, you know, people say, oh, Tim's silly for talking about civil war.
Ladies and gentlemen, when you have a Supreme Court justice who doesn't know what a woman is, you think this system can sustain itself?
harrison smith
Yeah, I think you can.
tim pool
Like, we've got no border.
It's just, they're walking in and the CBP is letting them in.
They're building a city for these people.
You've got, Keitanji Brown doesn't know what a woman is.
Doesn't know what a woman is.
But you've got a lot of politicians who don't either.
Come on, man.
You get a bunch of people who can't define the word woman, I'm curious about their math and everything else.
phil labonte
And the fact of the matter is, it's not that they can't, it's that they won't.
Everybody knows, and so this only proves that it is an ideology that has taken hold.
And if we are passing laws based on this ideology, you're basically passing laws based on a religion.
andrew gruel
Yeah, everybody knows, right?
It's this silly game that everyone is playing.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's the emperor has no clothes.
andrew gruel
And then it goes all the way up to the Supreme Court, and the game is still being played?
Distill it down.
tim pool
I don't see how a system can function.
I mean, look, if you owned a bar, and you hired a manager to run the bar, and the person you hired was like, I don't know what a woman is, you'd probably be like, okay, well, that's gonna lead to a whole bunch of other problems with this bar.
I mean, like, how do you deal with the bathrooms?
Well, I don't know.
You think your business is going to operate if the dude thinks 2 plus 2 equals 5?
I hired a manager, he told me 2 plus 2 is 5.
The register is all wrong.
All the content is all screwed up.
phil labonte
The House is going after Joe Biden and stuff.
I get it.
There's plenty of evidence that needs to be investigated and stuff.
But the House should be doing everything they can to shed light on, to remind people that she said that, and get her off the court!
If you cannot judge the difference between a man and a woman, you should not be sitting on the highest court in the land.
Period.
I don't care what anyone says.
This is ridiculous that we entertain this horseshit.
This is garbage.
tim pool
So my attitude is, if we're at the point where Democrats confirm someone who doesn't know what a woman is, I mean, I don't understand how you think the system can sustain itself.
I'm not saying it's gonna, like, it's the apocalypse, like, it's just going to crumble and break apart, and then we will have to start repairing it.
harrison smith
Yeah, it's going to crumble very, very slowly and for a very long time.
Think about the USSR existed for 80 plus years with the biggest power on the planet Earth opposing them at every pass.
Once America goes down that road and there's nobody opposing what's happening, I mean, how long can something like that sustain?
It'll be a slow degradation, but for decades and decades and decades.
I just don't think there's going to be a major shock unless there's, you know, what we're seeing happen right now, which is the cyber attacks, the cyber pandemic that they've Oh yeah, the Cyber 9-11, huh?
tim pool
Yeah.
That's what they're referring to.
The Wazir says, the media going after Brand for the promiscuity they cheered, sounds like whistleblowers reporting Scientology forces members to confess every little misstep so the church has all the blackmail material they'll ever need.
Well, I mean, I think it's funny that they celebrate Russell Brand, they all laugh.
He tells these jokes.
Now 20 years later, they're like, nah, you're a wrong thinker.
Spark says Garland testified today under oath that the DOJ is investigating parents for school board meetings based on reports from the media.
phil labonte
Of course they are.
tim pool
Because they're evil.
Because they are evil.
Evil people.
I- I- Look.
I said it earlier.
There are people who are like, it's getting really dangerous when people refer to their political opponents as evil.
The DOJ is going after parents for issuing formal complaints at school board meetings.
They have arrested Donald Trump's lawyers.
phil labonte
They threw two old ladies in prison for 11 years.
These women are in their 70s.
They threw them in prison for 11 years because they protested.
They sat in front of an abortion clinic.
Because they were sitting in front of an exit.
tim pool
Where?
phil labonte
At Planned Parenthood.
Oh, right.
Because they were protesting abortion.
They were using their First Amendment right to protest, and because they were in front of the exit or whatever, they go to jail for 11 years?
Put them in jail for the rest of their life?
I mean, come on!
andrew gruel
Let's even take a step back, right?
As a father of four kids, I have the government telling me I have to inject my kids with something that we know nothing about.
That is evil.
tim pool
We got this from NYBSFP.
Tim, you summed it up perfectly.
Howard Stern was always on the side of evil.
He hasn't changed.
andrew gruel
Right.
tim pool
That's what he does.
What do we have?
R. Valera says she misunderstood the gesture.
It wasn't a grope.
He was trying to choke her Homer Simpson style because she's so annoying.
phil labonte
Haha.
tim pool
But I guess that's technically groping too.
I don't know.
Wretched Redemption Music says new album Alpha Omega out now Spotify and iTunes.
Rolling Stone mad calls it the anthem for right-wing conspiracy.
Tim calls it a reverse kickflip.
I have no idea what that means.
But Rolling Stone calls it an anthem for right-wing conspiracy.
There you go.
unidentified
Congratulations.
phil labonte
Rolling Stone's garbage.
tim pool
Yes.
Just leave me alone says Cassidy Hutchinson said Trump choked out a Secret Service agent then grabbed the steering wheel.
Not Rudy Grobter and put his hand under her... Now, Rudy Grobter and put his hand under her skirt in a full tent of people behind the stage.
Sounds like a romance novel.
And look, you've got a combination of people who will, they don't care if it's true or not, they'll just keep repeating it.
Because they're evil.
They're evil people.
Sorry, man.
That's just reality.
They lie all the time.
NBC News said Ray Epps was seen trying to calm people down and stop them from storming the Capitol.
I think that was, yeah, NBC.
He was later seen trying to calm down the rioters.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
He's on camera storming the front line with everybody.
andrew gruel
I can't wait until we find out the specific detail about RayApps.
I mean, yeah, we've all got the type, but I mean, I want to know, like, I want to read emails.
I want to see, see all of this in its glory.
tim pool
Yeah, there's, um, the charging document is that he pleaded guilty.
So the full breakdown of his sentencing guidelines or the request explains what he did.
And the funny thing is, the document they released Basically, is one of the most serious documents of any of the J6ers.
Like, talking about how he was on the front line, how he's whispering, and then the men charge the barricades and rip him down, how he's telling people to go in, and he got charged with one count.
harrison smith
Yeah.
One misdemeanor.
And honestly, the most suspicious thing out of all of it is the way the media is covering for him when they are completely, you know, destroying any other J6 participants.
So, you know, if you weren't suspicious before the media started covering for him, that should at least make you ask questions.
tim pool
Joseph says, who wants to be a part of this culture, Tim?
What good does it really offer?
Boomers only care about growing tomatoes and hunting.
The youngsters are having a rough go.
No one is happy.
Let me explain.
When you build culture, what you are basically saying is, hey, I'm doing cool things that are fun.
Would you like to do cool things that are fun with me?
We will then trade with each other and build wealth.
And then we'll be happy and comfortable.
Building culture is not getting involved in politics and voting and going knocking on doors.
That's politicking.
Culture building means that when all these young people are miserable and doing nothing with their lives, and they're sitting in their basements, withering away, you are having a blast, you are eating good food, and you are with your friends and your family, and you are successful.
And then, if it all hits the fan and crumbles, you will have a community of people around you that will help you survive.
That's building culture.
So if you don't want to do it, well, you know, get a dog, go live in the woods.
Buy a river, and fish, and enjoy life.
You know, just, life is the Jamaica of it, man.
All these people are so miserable, but life is just what it is.
Everybody, everybody wants something.
You know, you gotta be, you gotta be the master of your own domain.
Where we at?
We'll grab some more Super Chats.
What is this one?
Alright, Webber Jays says, I watched Russell Brand's Masterclass on Recovery in the 12-step program.
He speaks a lot about turning away from worldly pleasures and instead serving and getting back in touch with God.
Very interesting.
Interesting of Russell Brand.
We'll grab, uh, we got a good one here?
The Duck Abides says, Hey Tim, in Illinois they passed a law that allows migrants to become police officers.
On a side note, with our assault weapons ban, it exempts police from the law's restrictions.
This implies a non-citizen migrant can own a semi-auto rifle and we can't.
Yes it does.
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harrison smith
Sure, yeah.
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unidentified
Wow!
tim pool
Very nice.
You got Twitter or anything you want to shout out?
unidentified
Yep.
andrew gruel
It's at AndrewGruel on X and on Instagram at ChefGruel.
tim pool
Right on.
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You can follow us on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, YouTube, you know, the internet.
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