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Sept. 18, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Russell Brand Hit By MATRIX ATTACK, Cancels Tour Amid Me Too Scandal w/Adelitas Way
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hannah claire brimelow
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ian crossland
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rick dejesus
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tim pool
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tim pool
It's a Matrix attack against Russell Brand.
At least that's what Andrew Tate has called it.
And I do think it's kind of suspect.
It's very strange that all of a sudden, out of the blue, you've got all of these accusations coming out against Russell Brand.
And so now there are two conspiracy theories.
I love this.
The first is that Russell Brand, a known abuser, knew himself.
That these allegations would soon come to haunt him, so he cultivated a following of anti-establishment personalities and fans, so that when it finally came down upon him, he would immediately say, quick, everyone defend me.
That's an absolutely absurd conspiracy theory.
The other is that the media machine is going after Russell Brand because of a viral clip on Bill Maher where he roasts Big Pharma, and his consistent anti-establishment attacks have resulted in him being the target of the machine.
Or the Matrix, as Andrew Tate calls it.
I think it's funny that he calls it that.
Look, I don't know.
We'll go through this, we'll talk about it, but I would lean more towards it's very suspicious that across the board, front pages everywhere are going after Russell Brand because he's not Epstein.
When they ignore Epstein and target Russell Brand, it makes you wonder.
When they ignore Weinstein for 20-plus years, and then they go after Russell Brand, it makes you wonder.
Granted, they're allegations, so we'll read through this.
Then we got big news about this F-35 that apparently just vanished.
They did find it, the debris field.
But here's the craziest thing, they're ordering a stand-down on all aircraft because of a series of disasters that just happened.
I mean, it may be premature to say, but get woke, go broke, I guess, for the U.S.
Armed Forces.
We'll talk about all that and more.
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Joining us tonight to talk about all this and more is Adelita's Way.
rick dejesus
We're happy to be here.
It's been great.
tim pool
Who are you?
rick dejesus
What do you do?
I'm Rick DeJesus.
I'm the singer-songwriter of Adelita's Way.
We're on tour right now.
I love God, I love my family, and I love our country, so I'm at the point now where I'm willing to do anything for the people I love.
unidentified
Right on.
tim pool
And we also have another member of Adelita's Way.
unidentified
What's up?
I'm Trevor Stafford.
I play drums for Adelita's Way.
tim pool
You guys, I don't know, you're a rock band.
You had a bunch of big hits.
rick dejesus
Yeah, we've had three number one hits, we've got two gold records, we've got an independent gold record.
Independent gold record, that's a big one for us, so thank you to our fans for making that possible.
But we're just trying to pave the way for indie artists, man.
The typical story, we're abused in the record industry, definitely mentally and financially.
And now, they spent years trying to throw dirt on us, but I think now they've given up on that and just said, alright, this band's going to have success.
We've become one of the most successful independent acts, and we really want to just be, you know, pave the way for other artists who are looking to do this.
Or maybe if they feel this way, they feel like they've been defeated, maybe it can give them a resurrection.
tim pool
Plus, we gotta build culture.
Gotta build culture.
It's awesome that you guys, you know, you went independent, you're doing your own thing, you're fighting the culture war, and glad to have you here.
Should be fun.
So thanks for hanging out.
Hannah Clare's hanging out.
hannah claire brimelow
Hey, I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow.
I'm a writer for TimCast.com.
I'm really looking forward to tonight.
ian crossland
Ian's here too. Yes, and talking about building culture, man, we just pumped out a song. I did a song with Adelita Sway
called Power featuring Ian Crosland. I saw it's tight.
Oh, it's hot. It's powerful. We recorded it from across the country too and sent the data.
rick dejesus
What we did, the whole thing was interesting because last time we were on the show we actually started the process
here.
We were like, what can we do?
So we just spent a couple hours down there doing what we all love, messing around with music, and then it inspired us to go back and write an entire song.
And then I remember you in there just jamming and singing harmonies.
ian crossland
Yeah, man, we found some sweet hook.
unidentified
That was a nice hook.
ian crossland
You bummed me out, dude?
rick dejesus
I'm bummed you didn't ground with me out there, though, today.
ian crossland
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
rick dejesus
We weren't grounding.
We weren't breeding together.
ian crossland
Oh, I grounded earlier today.
rick dejesus
Did you?
ian crossland
Good work.
Yeah, you look smooth.
unidentified
Nice work.
tim pool
And it's pawpaw season, so we went out and grabbed some fresh pawpaw.
It's the perfect time, too.
rick dejesus
Oh, they were delicious.
tim pool
So usually we forget, and then we go out there, and they're like mushy, and you're like, well, let's try and find some good ones.
Right now, they are perfect.
They are perfect.
Pawpaw's Hillbilly Banana.
It's an Appalachian thing.
Tastes like mango and banana combined.
It's crazy.
It's like mango.
It's nuts.
But we also got Carter pressing the buttons tonight.
carter banks
Very fitting that I'm here filling in for Serge.
I saw you guys out the window, and that's now I know we all were doing.
But yeah, just last year we were all at Blue Ridge Rock Fest together, so I'm really excited to be here.
Let's do it.
tim pool
All right, let's jump into that first story, ladies and gentlemen.
They are coming for Russell Brand, The New York Times.
Russell Brand cancels comedy dates after sexual assault allegations.
The comedian was scheduled to perform three dates in Britain this month.
Now they've been postponed.
He's also been dropped from his talent agency.
Shows on Channel 4 have been pulled.
There's pressure on the BBC and Netflix to pull his shows.
Yo, they are coming after Russell Brand with force.
I have not seen, in a long time, I mean, look, they come after him.
And apparently there is a criminal investigation underway as well that I hear people talking about on Twitter.
And Andrew Tate says Matrix Attack.
That's what he calls it.
Some people are comparing this to what they did to Andrew Tate.
But I think what they did to Andrew Tate, what they're doing to him is a bit more extreme.
They're accusing him of outright trafficking and stuff like this.
But I do find it very interesting that Russell Brand is being so heavily targeted for one simple reason.
Epstein has been accused of doing so much more, and for such a long period of time, to the point where he was actually criminally prosecuted, where you actually had ABC News, Amy Rohrbach saying, we got him, we got this story, and then dropping it.
When you have someone as devious and malicious, evil, as Epstein, and they do nothing, and then you have Russell Brand and they're like, did you know that 10 years ago, 15 years ago, in one instance they're saying it was 17 years ago.
It's like, what, two decade old allegations?
And apparently, I don't even know if these allegations, some of them are not even criminal, they're like, he was abusive emotionally, and like, this is all part of the story.
You know, they're destroying, they're trying to destroy this guy's career and pull him off, out of the face of the, of the, of, of, of, mainstream conversations and commentary
for decades old allegations. I just, I gotta say, right off the bat, it seems kind of strange. So I do want
to play for you this clip here because this is sparking a conspiracy number
unidentified
one.
tim pool
Simon Atiba says, many are now saying this clip, this video clip might be why
Russell Brand is being attacked. Watch. Let's play this clip from real time with
Bill Maher. This thing's probably got, I don't know, 50 million views because
it's being reposted everywhere, but here you go.
unidentified
If you like, actually. You just, you just get the fuck out of here.
ian crossland
This is not the place. He said he's going to give them facts.
russel brand
Yeah, we love facts. I love facts. I wouldn't have mentioned it.
I'm English and you know that politeness is our fundamental religion.
But they do pertain to this issue, so may I say something?
I'll stop saying them.
The pandemic created at least 40 new big pharma billionaires.
Pharmaceutical corporations like Moderna and Pfizer made $1,000 of profit every second from the COVID-19 vaccine.
More than two-thirds of Congress received campaign funding from pharmaceutical companies in the 2020 election.
Pfizer chairman Albert Baller told Time magazine in July 2020 that his company was developing a COVID vaccine for the good of humanity, not for money.
And of course Pfizer made $100 billion in profit All right.
in 2022. And may I just mention finally, and this is also a fact, that you, the American
public, funded the development of that. The German public funded the BioNTech vaccine.
When it came to the profits, they took the profits. When it came to the funding, you
paid for the funding. All I'm querying is this. Is if you have an economic system in
which pharmaceutical companies benefit hugely from medical emergencies, where a military
industrial complex benefits from war, where energy companies benefit from energy crises,
you are going to generate states of perpetual crisis, where the interests of ordinary people
separate from the interests of the elite.
tim pool
And he hit the nail on the head with a hammer.
People are saying, like, that's it right there.
I'm not gonna go, I don't, I think it's silly to say this one clip did it.
Because I think, I don't know, when's this clip from?
Do we even know when that show was?
I'm pretty sure it was from a while ago.
But I will say, it's that kind of sentiment that's gonna make you a lot I'm still waiting for my Pfizer check, that's for sure.
Well, are you guys sponsored?
I know all these media companies are, you know, sponsored by Pfizer, all these news outlets.
rick dejesus
I'll tell you, this could be, first of all, you know, innocent until proven guilty.
How many times have you seen allegations go against an athlete, someone who seems to be not part of the whole matrix, they call it, right?
Someone that's not in bed with the elites.
How many times have you seen the allegations come, the name drug through the mud for a year or two, all to find out in the end that there's no charges, nothing ever happens, but then what happens is you get associated with being a rapist.
Say Russell Brand, say that this goes on for some time, everything, you know, nothing happens, right?
Oh, innocent, nothing really that we see that's going to get him jail time.
People are still going to say, oh, didn't he rape women?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, anytime his name comes in an article, they're going to say, Russell Brand, who was accused of this, whether or not anything is actually proven.
rick dejesus
Right.
tim pool
They'll put the commas.
Russell Brand, comma, who was accused of multiple rapes, comma.
rick dejesus
Right.
And it taints your legacy.
And I think he says a whole lot more than this.
This is big.
He's, you know, obviously saying information that people may not know that's good to know.
And I think they're going after him because they're trying to set the tone that if you revolt, if you're going against anything that we're displeased with right now in time, this could be you.
You could be the one next that's getting this, you know, unjust system.
I think that the justice system is becoming, you know, completely favorable to the elites who can kind of do whatever they want.
tim pool
I think it's always been kind of like that.
rick dejesus
It's getting worse, though.
They're doing it in front of our faces now.
Now it's just like, you know, with jaywalking, we don't like this guy.
Look at, oh, who do you vote for?
Look at him.
Yeah, give him two years in prison.
And then someone over here does the worst thing you could possibly do.
tim pool
And it's just somehow they program all of our minds to not care that they kill all these people or do... I think this could simply be, if you are outside the establishment and mainstream narrative, you are not allowed to be in the establishment and the mainstream.
So, this could be for a lot of reasons.
One, a super jet just popped in, OMG Puppies made a good point, saying that he's anti-war, he's anti-Ukraine war.
And for the UK, I mean, oof, they're more serious.
They're sending depleted uranium tank busters, I think they're called these.
And Putin said that these are basically nuclear weapons.
So, you've got someone in the UK doing that, they excise him from everything.
This is their way to reduce his influence.
I don't think they care about the aftermath.
They're basically saying he should not be on mainstream television, he should not be on Netflix, BBC, Channel 4, he should be in the gutters of society along with Alex Jones and you name it.
They should not be platformed as it were.
How do you get...
Someone off of a network.
If Russell Brand is featured in these TV shows, they generate attention for him, and that brings people to his podcast where he outright says, we should not be funding war, we should not be funding big pharmaceutical companies.
Okay, you got a problem.
Well, you can't just sever the contracts you have with him unless you have a morality violation.
Now you have your morality clause violation against Russell Brand, impropriety.
And it's like, why would his talent agency drop him overnight?
It's like, come on.
There's not a conviction.
It doesn't matter.
This is their way of saying we are removing him from polite society because we don't like the things he has to say.
rick dejesus
And it's funny because none of this came out when he's playing the role of a guy that all he does is drink, do drugs, and have sex, right?
We want to represent this guy.
He's the perfect guy.
hannah claire brimelow
Or the years that he spent talking about his sex addiction in his stand-up comedy, right?
Like, he was open about the fact that he lived essentially a degenerate lifestyle.
I mean, it was fueled by addiction.
It's complicated.
I get that.
But no one thought, ah, yes, while his initial star was rising, I should come forward with these allegations, right?
He has been a popular name for a long time.
Why now?
rick dejesus
Well, when the casting comes in and the casting says, looking for sex addicted rock star, you know, literally his agent's like, that's my guy, you know, and then I have the perfect guy.
And then he, you find out now they're trying to say he does these things in real life.
And you're like, I kind of figured that was the case anyway, but they're just trying to put a bad spin on what I think Um, I wanna see it, I wanna see the edits.
tim pool
Well, I mean, accusing the dude of rape, I think, is completely over the top, right?
rick dejesus
Right.
tim pool
You might look at him and be like, he's- Ten years later.
Yeah, but like, to assume that he has these behaviors because of his character and his persona and stuff, it's like, well, no, I might assume that he's at like, crazy clubs and parties and doing nasty stuff, but not abusing people.
I mean, that's like, accusing him of a- like, I wouldn't assume Russell Brand's committing crimes against people, you know what I mean?
ian crossland
You know, it's crazy that two people can get drunk, blackout drunk, have sex, not even know they did it because they're blacked out.
Then the next morning, the woman can say, I didn't agree to that.
I wasn't cognitively inclined.
hannah claire brimelow
But a man can't.
If that happened to a woman and they're both blackout drunk, the woman can say, I was raped, but the man can't say, I was raped, which is terrible, right?
Like, I thought, we're the feminists.
I thought we were all gender equal.
Why can't men do the two?
But the fault is always on the men.
tim pool
No, but didn't someone do this?
There was a guy who came out and said that he was raped by some woman?
Like, abruptly?
Yeah, this happened once, and everyone- I can't remember who this was.
Everybody was like, uh, oh, you see the game he's playing?
He's gonna be the first one to make the accusation so that he can't be accused because he's the one making the accusation.
I can't remember- there's a story, maybe the people in the chat won't remember.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, similar stuff comes up when you get, you know, high school students who sleep with their teacher and everyone's like, wow, great job.
But if it's a girl, they're like, that man was out of control, which, of course, in both scenarios, the adult is in the wrong there.
tim pool
Here's something funny, too.
People need to watch out for.
I mentioned this on my morning show.
They say that Russell Brand, one of the accusers, was 16 at the time.
And you're like, whoa, that's that's crazy.
But you got to ask yourself first, how old was Russell Brand?
Because imagine, you know, if someone came out and was like, Ian Crosland dated a 16-year-old.
unidentified
What, he was 16?
tim pool
That's actually true.
Right, so it's like, saying Ian Crosland dated a 16-year-old, people are like, whoa, that's crazy.
rick dejesus
And we need to see if this is a fact.
And we need to see if this is actually, you could just say, we're hearing hearsay right now.
I want to see the facts.
I want to see the case.
I'm not just going to call him a rapist, and then two years later, like, he actually never did it, and then he's still this rapist.
tim pool
I do want to say one more thing, too.
Russell Brown was 31 at the time of the allegations of the 16-year-old.
And so, it's like, I'm not gonna give the guy a free pass either.
Agreed.
There's accusations.
Innocent until proven guilty.
I don't think he should lose his job at all just because these claims are coming out.
And they're not even, I think these claims for the most part are not even claims of criminality.
I think there may be a couple, but in the instance of a 16-year-old, I think that the age of consent, as all the news reports are saying, it was legal.
Doesn't mean good.
Like 31-year-old hitting up a 16-year-old, kind of weird.
hannah claire brimelow
Not great.
tim pool
Assuming it's true, but criminal, mm.
And then it's a question of, I mean, are we gonna, look, dude, this is 20 years ago.
If the dude committed a crime or whatever, we hold them accountable.
I just think, when you have Epstein, and they don't care at all.
hannah claire brimelow
And weirdly, none of his victims seem to be allowed to come forward at all, ever.
A couple of them do, and then we suddenly, they disappear.
tim pool
Where's that client list?
ian crossland
Yeah, Maria Farmer.
She's got a, she's the one, listen to her.
tim pool
It's just amazing.
What were we saying, Ian?
I don't know.
I didn't read this part of the story.
You mentioned like a journalist reached out to these women.
ian crossland
People were saying that he's being targeted.
I'm like, well, let's look into it.
And then I looked into it and apparently a journalist took it upon herself to contact these women and be like, do you want to be in a story about Russell?
Do you want to accuse Russell Brand?
Do you want to and like ask these people to come out?
And I don't know if this is 100%.
I haven't like been able to confirm or deny because I don't know the behind the scenes workings, but it sounds like it was a reporter that kind of put all this together.
tim pool
I just wanna, I wanna say, I'll say two quick things because we got some great messages in the chat.
This is, Amtru said that, he said, you said it Tim, they're gonna go after lawyers for doing nothing next to media personalities.
I didn't think this would be like in relation to J6, right?
I didn't mean like someone like Russell Brand, I meant people who are actively promoting J6.
But I do wanna say, this is modern assassination.
The way they target people, powerful elites, corrupt individuals, mafias, whatever, back in the day was assassination.
That's reserved now for extreme circumstances related to international conflict war.
What they do now, you can observe with Julian Assange, falsely accused of rape to taint the media.
You then got all of these intel asset media agencies, prominent mainstream media, they kept saying Julian Assange raped a woman, he was accused of rape.
None of it was true.
He was never accused of rape.
That never happened.
Right.
Then they lock him up for it.
And he knows the charges are bunk and so then he goes to the Ecuadorian embassy and then the media runs the attack again and again and again.
Julian Assange flees rape charges, rape charges.
There was never a rape charge.
He was never accused of raping anybody.
The media just kept lying about it because character assassination is how you do it.
If you assassinate someone, Let's say, and look, I love this, you know, the media's gonna be like, conspiracy theories.
Dude, come on.
Assassinations get busted all the time.
We know it happens.
The dark web has these things.
If they're trying to take out someone who's politically powerful or influential, and that person dies, they become a martyr.
People paint pictures of their face on a wall.
So the modern technique is destroy the image of the person first, and then make it unacceptable or unthinkable to say their name or cite them.
ian crossland
Yeah, I would call this modern banishment, where you used to actually throw them out of the country, now you debank them and make them Asian, drop them and stuff.
It doesn't matter where they live, they're just not welcome to be part of the society.
rick dejesus
And you're getting banished for what?
For trying to inform the civilians, trying to start a revolution of some sorts for us?
Because we know at this point that we're fed up, right?
All of us.
There's a lot to be fed up about, and it brings fear For communities, it brings fear for leaders to step out and say, we're not going to take any more of this.
We're standing up to this.
And it's going to make less people want to put their foot down and revolt against the abuse of power that's been happening extremely the past few years.
I mean, it's been happening our whole lifetime, but it's really, really getting done in front of our face more recently.
And I've got little kids to raise, so I want them to grow up in a good, Civilization, right?
So they can just do this to you.
They can just, you know, 30 years for January 6th, which was obviously planned and kind of scripted out to happen that way.
And then look what they do.
They're setting an example for anybody that wants to be a part of any form of revolution.
That's a problem because we may need a revolution at some point.
During our lifetimes.
ian crossland
I think Elon's effectively creating a legal revolution by reorganizing the business and infrastructure of the world with, like, building out the electric car thing, getting us up into space with reusable rockets.
So it's kind of like, you know, the technology is the revolution.
The way we communicate is the message itself.
The message is the meaning.
I think that was a really famous quote by... I'm not sure who said that.
tim pool
I want to pull up this tweet.
We have this tweet from Brian Krasinski.
ian crossland
Marshall McLuhan was the guy.
Sorry, Tim.
Keep going.
tim pool
We have this tweet from Brian Krasenstein.
He says, I see a lot of people claiming that the media and the establishment have it out for Russell Brand.
And that's why these allegations came out.
Do you know what's more likely?
Now I'm going to pause here because the allegations he's making are both the same allegation, that Russell Brand knew he did bad things and created an audience that would challenge the establishment.
And then he says, or did he do the same?
I think he made a mistake in this one.
But I want to play this video that he posted.
This is the most insane conspiracy theory and it actually makes me think this is a quote-unquote matrix attack against Russell Brand.
Let me play the clip for you.
unidentified
Of course he's known, since Me Too started, that there are women out there who have stuff on him and that it's only a matter of time before they come forward and expose him for what he is.
He's not an idiot!
He has known that this day was coming and so he's had the incentive over the last few years to cultivate a following of people who distrust the media, who think that the media are out to get Russell Brand and that they'll do anything that they can to do that.
And that's what he's been doing since Me Too started.
That's the only way that he avoids being cancelled.
That's the only way that this guy with the God complex stays relevant.
Is if he cultivates this following of people who will disbelieve anything the media put out about him because they don't trust the media.
He has everything to gain from doing that and that's exactly what he's done successfully.
tim pool
Yeah, I think it's really funny that this is the conspiracy theory that liberals are going with because Russell Brand was at Occupy Wall Street.
ian crossland
When did Me Too start?
unidentified
2017?
tim pool
2017!
Okay, yeah, Russell Brand has always been political.
He went to numerous Occupy events.
He's consistently spoken up about these things, but I love this conspiracy that Fifteen years ago, he's like, you know, one of these days they're going to come after me for all the horrible things I've done.
I better start cultivating a bunch of conspiracy theorists who will think that the media is lying about me.
unidentified
He's like the ultimate mastermind.
He knew.
hannah claire brimelow
He knew fifteen years ago.
tim pool
That Me Too was coming.
ian crossland
Apparently Me Too.
tim pool
And he didn't warn anybody.
hannah claire brimelow
So he went to Occupy to start spreading the word and then people would like him and then he felt like, this is the craziest thing I'm talking about.
Honestly, I wish it were true because that would be even funnier in some way.
He had this crazy long-term vision for like, first, I've got to make some terrible choices in my life, but I will protect myself by cultivating a podcast.
Like, it's crazy.
tim pool
But not even that, him being like, In ten years, I'll start a podcast that cultivates anti-establishment fans.
But for now, I must go to Occupy Wall Street to start them off.
ian crossland
Yeah, you saw him make it.
hannah claire brimelow
He's got like the craziest whiteboard timeline of all time.
carter banks
He's got a time machine.
rick dejesus
He's got a Megamind dome.
ian crossland
Correction, it was 2006 that Me Too was coined by Tarana Burke, an advocate for women in New York.
Yeah.
It was 2017 that it went viral.
tim pool
Nobody knew what it was until 2017.
ian crossland
Russell Brannan, like 2013, started something called The Trues.
Do you remember that?
Where instead of the news it was The Truce?
He got woken up early on.
Red Pill.
He's all about it.
rick dejesus
We don't need Russell Brand's story to not trust the media.
We already don't trust the media.
It's like, I watch the news at this point and I'm looking at, when I watch CNN, I can like tell they're federal agents.
unidentified
I'm like, yeah, I wonder when they graduated from their... Is it because the chyron says former CIA director when they talk?
rick dejesus
Or even the girl that's trying to just be there, I'm like, you're fed.
tim pool
These intel officials and analysts and everything get jobs at the corporate press, and the chyron says, like, former CIA, and they're there in these roles.
It's not even a joke, it's just like, yes.
rick dejesus
How was your mind control course when you were at the FBI?
It's going great.
I'm doing it right now.
unidentified
You know what's messed up about these allegations, though, is that when they get you on this, you can't defend yourself.
Now you're in an investigation.
You can't say anything to defend yourself.
So now they could just drag your name through the mud for however long it takes.
And this is what you were talking about earlier.
Like, how do we fix this?
Because now your whole legacy is tarnished because you can't say anything about your allegations.
tim pool
You've got to win a culture war.
ian crossland
Yeah, because if you say, no, I didn't, then you're acknowledging the premise of the accusation.
unidentified
Yeah, your lawyer tells you not to say nothing, you know.
hannah claire brimelow
See, that's why I like that, like, he put out a statement being like, none of this is true, right?
Like, there are some people who try to, like, put their head in the sand, be like, it's not happening, or like, you know, I'm so sorry that you guys feel like maybe I did something wrong in the past.
Like, just being like, no, none of this is real is more interesting.
It's also more true to character for Russell Brand.
I think as much as, you know, a lot of people in this room know already not to trust the media, When he went on Bill Maher, and I think it was in March, that clip.
Him saying all these things, you know, as many people who are like, oh my gosh, good point.
There are just as many people being like, yes, thank you for saying this on a national platform.
Like, they're pretending like he came up with this idea of uniting people who don't trust the media.
People who don't trust the media find each other all the time.
unidentified
Bill Maher was trying to cut him off so hard, too.
He was like, OK, that's enough.
Right.
tim pool
Don't say it.
Don't say bad things about Pfizer.
Oh, what awful companies.
I love that clip where it's like, today's broadcast is brought to you by Pfizer.
Brought to you by Pfizer.
Brought to you by Pfizer.
It's like every single media company.
And that's the way it goes, man.
And that's why, you know, we For the most part don't have a lot of sponsors for this show.
We do on the podcast audio side of things and it's because like I don't want to be put in these positions.
There's a reality that Someone might come to us and be like, hey, you know, we sell this product and then we'll be like, oh, sounds totally cool.
Then we'll do ads and then we'll get emails be like, hey, did you know this product is actually bad because they do these things to their employees?
And it's like, okay, what do we do?
They've paid us.
It's a conflict of interest.
Do we drop them?
That's like cancel culture.
How do we investigate something like that?
It's like, oof, that stuff's rough.
rick dejesus
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't want to tell people we're not going to shout out their companies because we have that fear though.
But there is the other side of predominantly why I wouldn't want to go with a major corporation is because like, dude, I assume if you're at a certain size, you're probably just evil.
You know, like any massive, like Starbucks.
Look, I like Starbucks, right?
They're one of the only coffee shops with heavy cream.
You want to get coffee and you're walking around the city.
But I'm just convinced they're evil.
rick dejesus
Oh, yeah.
I think they're poisoning everyone.
When you start really looking into health, Be very afraid of what you eat if you're not eating all grass-fed, organic, raw.
Everything has got to be absolutely untainted.
Starbucks is tainted, definitely.
You could taste it.
If you really just stop and listen to your body, you could feel the poison.
tim pool
What are the ingredients on that thing?
Oh my gosh, do not call me out for having this.
hannah claire brimelow
Is it high fructose corn syrup?
It says the ingredients are brewed Starbucks trademark coffee, water coffee, reduced fat, milk, sugar, cocoa, pectin.
That's it.
ian crossland
Fifteen percent of that company is owned by Blackrock and Landyard.
tim pool
But the question is, when it says sugar, is it high fructose corn syrup, or is it like cane sugar?
Either way, sugar's bad.
ian crossland
Does it say it on there?
hannah claire brimelow
It just says sugar, but typically they specify, right?
unidentified
The secret that you learn in the holistic natural medicine world is when it says natural flavors, they are legally allowed to put whatever they want under that list.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, there's no regulation.
tim pool
Yeah, and what is it, like raspberry flavored comes from beaver ass?
Or something like that.
unidentified
Don't trust anything that says natural flavors.
ian crossland
No, for real.
It's beaver anal glands.
unidentified
It's called, um... You know what, I actually did hear that somewhere.
carter banks
I think that's actually true.
ian crossland
I don't... Yeah, I'm typing in beaver anal gland flavor, just so you know.
Castoreum is what it's called.
And yes, it produces a... The power of the mind, man.
rick dejesus
I can smell what beaver ass smells like.
ian crossland
Oh God, it's just so disgusting to read about it.
It hasn't even gotten to the food part yet.
In food.
rick dejesus
We've never had a beaver's ass in our face.
hannah claire brimelow
I always learn new things on this show.
It's great.
ian crossland
What does it say?
Flavor schnapps commonly.
Yeah.
Bride of schnapps.
Doesn't really say what specific flavor it is.
tim pool
Vanilla?
unidentified
Have you ever seen a beaver swimming?
ian crossland
No, I said vanilla.
unidentified
Underwater?
tim pool
Oh, yeah, yeah, vanilla!
unidentified
They're, like, awesome swimmers.
I saw one when I was fishing the other day, and it was just flying.
hannah claire brimelow
That's awesome.
tim pool
This says vanilla.
I thought it was, like, raspberry.
It says, uh, the FDA regards castoreum as natural flavoring.
Just in time for the holiday cookie season, we discovered that vanilla flavoring in your baked goods come from anal excretions of beavers.
ian crossland
It was also considered to be used in the cigarettes to increase the smell, the flavor, and the odor.
unidentified
Wow.
rick dejesus
Little did you know.
tim pool
Have you ever seen the videos of the pink slime?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
When they're making hot dogs?
ian crossland
That's like ground up.
All of it.
rick dejesus
McDonald's nuggets.
tim pool
Yeah, pink slime.
McDonald's nuggets.
unidentified
Full of bone.
tim pool
But they taste so good.
rick dejesus
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
So when did you get into the health?
unidentified
When did you guys get invested in this?
rick dejesus
So I'm an athlete.
I've been playing sports my whole life, but lately I've been trying to biohack.
I feel like I'm in a place where I want to see what I can do.
I want to see what I'm capable of in this body I have.
So I've been working on biohacking.
I've been, you know, micronutrients.
Everything I put in my body at this point is really thought out.
I wake up, I do the sauna, I cold plunge, I Wim Hof breathe, I ground, I do any form of I noticed the difference in my life.
I noticed my focus.
I noticed I play sports at a higher level.
I noticed a lot of benefits of it.
I've been really doing that for the past year hard, but my whole life I've been involved in trying to eat right.
Not when I was 12.
When I'm 12, I'm eating pizza and french fries.
That was the turnaround for me when I learned You know, my mom, I love her, but she was feeding us frosted flakes and all these things.
When you look at this stuff, when you look up what frosted flakes and what Doritos and what these foods do to you, they kill us.
That's it.
They're poisons, they're chemicals, they're hazardous to our health.
It's crazy that we consume this, but we're used to it.
hannah claire brimelow
And do you like evangelize it to the rest of the band?
Or how does this work?
unidentified
Yeah, my wife's a naturopathic doctor.
She's been a naturopathic doctor for like 10 years.
And when I'm home from tour, like she was doing all her schooling online.
And so I was just soaking in all the information.
So yeah, I've known about seed oils for like eight years.
tim pool
Seed oils!
ian crossland
Do you guys go into stem cells and like stem cell therapy or NAD?
rick dejesus
I do NAD and I'm going to do stem cell therapy in January on my knee.
unidentified
Where are you going?
tim pool
You going to Tijuana, CPI?
rick dejesus
I'm going to go to Mexico.
tim pool
Is it Cellular Performance Institute?
rick dejesus
I haven't picked that out yet, but I'm already going to Mexico City for something else, so I was going to just... Go to Cellular Performance Institute.
tim pool
It's where we went, and it's Eddie Bravo shouting them out on Joe Rogan.
Those guys are awesome.
rick dejesus
I'm going to go.
tim pool
Bro, you sit in a chair looking at the ocean, and there's dolphins.
It's so amazing.
rick dejesus
I want to do it.
ian crossland
So Rick, would you genetically alter yourself to be healthier?
Like straight up CRISPR tech?
rick dejesus
No.
No, it's got to be from God or it's got to be something that is natural.
The older I get, the more I learn everything that we need is on this earth to heal ourselves.
Everything.
The earth heals us.
God has put every single thing we need here to heal us.
If you don't have a cold plunge, you could You could get a cold shower, you could stand out in the rain if you're in an area like this, right?
There's ways to be re-energized, the sun, everything we need is here.
ian crossland
I heard a lot about cold plungers, a lot about putting your head under, so if you don't have a full tank, just get like a big bowl, put ice in it, and then submerge your head for like 20 seconds.
tim pool
They say you should take cold showers in the morning.
rick dejesus
I do.
tim pool
You shouldn't take hot showers.
rick dejesus
I never take hot showers, everything's cold.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like, what is it?
It's hot at night and cold in the morning or something like that, if you're gonna do it.
rick dejesus
I just jump in and get it as cold as possible and I just let it... It's that first second where it's like, ooh, but then afterwards you feel energized.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story.
This is big news, ladies and gentlemen.
Marine Corps leader orders safety stand down of all aircraft after F-35 disappearance.
I want to give a shout out to the lectern guy because he posted a meme of himself carrying the missing F-35 out of the Capitol building.
hannah claire brimelow
It was a funny day for people making fun of this.
There was, I have to find his name, but one of the congressmen posted one of the milk cartons with the missing.
So he's like, if you find it, call the DOD.
tim pool
Here's the story.
There was an F-35.
The pilot ejected.
It remained on autopilot and no one knew where it went.
And so everyone was very concerned that it was flying around.
They found a debris field, I guess, so it did crash.
But now this is the crazy thing that They say, uh, they're ordering the safety stand down.
Apparently there have been a series of failures.
There's been more than one.
They say, the Pentagon said in a statement that the pause in operations would allow units to discuss aviation safety matters and best practices.
During a safety stand down, aviation commanders will lead discussions with their marines, folks at Fundamentals, blah blah blah.
As Ian just mentioned, it was three different incidents.
What was the time period?
It was like the past couple weeks?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, this is crazy, man.
Look at this.
They say the decision to stand down comes due to two deadly Marine Corps crashes last month.
An F-18 pilot died during a training flight near San Diego, and three Marines died and more were wounded when an Osprey crashed off the coast of Australia.
The Pentagon noted the two previous accidents in its statement Monday.
I'm sorry, man.
I mean no disrespect.
I know, you know, these are men and women in uniform who are losing their lives in these instances, but when they lower the standards, And they inject the wokeness into our armed forces, and people of merit don't want to be there, and people who probably shouldn't are, this is what you'll get.
And it's not just in the military, in the Air Force, or whatever, in the Marines, it's going to be everywhere.
ian crossland
It's possible that it is like what you're saying is incompetence and that they really have to shut down and make sure these guys are trained.
Or it could be that our machinery is getting hacked and they are afraid that if they keep it up and running that it's going to get turned around on us.
unidentified
I was just going to mention that.
tim pool
That's scary.
unidentified
Did you guys hear about the hacking that just happened in Vegas like last week?
tim pool
Let me tell you about the hacking in Vegas.
It was everywhere.
It wasn't in Vegas.
unidentified
Oh really?
tim pool
This is crazy!
Yeah, so first, let me just slow down and say it, because I'm going to get excited on this one.
Ian makes a really, really good point that we could be being attacked.
And how do you check to know?
An Osprey crash?
So it's easy for us to be like, get woke, bro, go haha.
But it could be that the system had a worm implanted in the operating system, the guidance system, and then it crashes.
And they were like, it looks like an accident.
Now they order a stand down.
I kind of feel like that's a possibility.
But here's what's crazy about Vegas.
Caesar's Entertainment got hacked.
They paid the bill because they are morons!
I think it was $40 million.
Ransomware hit Caesar's Entertainment systems.
This is not just one casino.
Caesar's Entertainment is a ton of different casinos, like Aria.
MGM got hit, separate company, and they said, we will not pay.
Smart move.
However, holy crap, in D.C.
at National Harbor, which is, they clear, National Harbor's one of the highest grossing casinos in the country, my understanding, I could be wrong, grossed $600 million last year, is what I'm told, and if you wanted to play there, everything was cash, like the olden days.
It's, I mean, I kind of, I should have gone and checked it out.
Because it sounds crazy, but what they were saying, what the guys were telling me is that you go to a slot machine, you can only put cash in, and when you print out a ticket, they would come and hand pay you because there was no machines to put it anywhere.
ian crossland
That's what I'm talking about.
There's no way in hell I'm going to settle for a USBC, a central bank digital currency.
Are you crazy?
No one is going to stand for that.
When the power goes out, Can't do nothing.
What the hell do you expect?
Let society run.
tim pool
Oh, dude, worse than that, man.
So, with Caesars paying the bill, I mean, it's remarkable how stupid these people are.
But they're probably thinking like, look, it's $40 million, we make billions every year, just pay it, otherwise we could lose, you know, insert amount of money.
What they don't get about this is that the ransomware didn't go anywhere.
You paid the bill, your computer's turned back on, well you still gotta flash your entire system, you still gotta rewind it to get rid of that malware, and you don't know where it is!
rick dejesus
They can do it again.
tim pool
They'll do it again, and they will do it again.
So MGM said, we're not paying it, probably because they were like, guys, if we pay this, we lose the 40 million, then they could come right back a week later and do it to us again.
rick dejesus
Well, it could also be any one of us.
It could be all of our bank accounts.
It just shows you that they're getting the money.
You know, they're getting the money off Caesars.
This is an attack, like what you said, and it was an attack that led to someone making... It's actually Joe Biden's ransomware so he could help pay for the Ukrainian war.
Yeah, I'm surprised the F-35 didn't end up in- Oh, we found it, it was over in Ukraine.
ian crossland
Yeah, some people thought they took it to Cuba, that it just autopiloted its way over to Cuba for the Chinese to take over and study.
tim pool
So this is the crazy reality of where we're at.
I think it brings up a really good point.
We should consider the military implications, right?
I think it's fair to point out the lowering of standards.
I think it's kind of an Occam's razor, but it's hard to know for sure.
What is the simpler solution?
That our armed forces have been in a state of decay with people retiring, resigning, and not wanting to be involved anymore because of the injection of wokeness?
That's a true story.
rick dejesus
Yeah.
tim pool
Or is it simpler to say, we get attacked?
Cyber attacks are legit and real.
And we are at war with Russia, whether anyone wants to admit it or not.
Three crashes in a month.
Could that be?
I feel like it sounds conspiratorial to say, but we are in war.
Is it possible that Russia's like, let's start attacking their infrastructure?
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and Russia knows that we continuously miss all of our recruiting goals.
It's not a secret that we're not doing well in terms of recruiting high-quality candidates.
We are open about the culture that we are breeding in the military.
I mean, videos of, what was it, one of the sailors in uniform that he spins and he's in drag?
These things go viral all the time, so I don't think it's a one or the other.
I think it's a combination of both.
People know that we are vulnerable right now.
rick dejesus
Yeah, but look at these wars.
Sorry, Trev.
unidentified
Have you seen what China's doing with their military recruitment?
They're starting to train little kids.
ian crossland
Oh, how old?
unidentified
That makes me think they're preparing for war in the next ten years.
uniforms on them and these little kids are stabbing them with like...
ian crossland
That makes me think they're preparing for war in the next 10 years.
unidentified
A lot of people are saying that it's speculation just to get like national...
to get these kids like kind of brainwashed in the beginning like they're not actually training them.
tim pool
They want them to fight in 10 years.
ian crossland
Well, they're preparing for it.
Whether or not they want it, I don't know.
I don't want it either.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, China does this with everything, right?
They're famous for their gymnasts who get separated from their families at young ages just to train all the time to become the best.
I mean, it is about keeping up the national standard there.
unidentified
They're having a really big famine lookout right now because What's it?
The Xi Jinping or whatever?
He's like starting to talk about world hunger is all of our or world food production is all of our, you know, responsibility.
And they're saying that because of the droughts and the floods that their food production is like really, really bad right now.
tim pool
And then you got to consider...
What does a country do when they don't have food for their people?
Do they just say, guess we die, or do they take food from someone else?
ian crossland
Oh, yeah.
rick dejesus
But they have a pattern of letting, you know, China has let 90 million people starve and die before and have been famine.
It's in their history.
hannah claire brimelow
And they're not going to admit it, right?
It's not like they're going to be like, oh, please, UN, give us some extra food.
They're just going to sacrifice their people for it.
rick dejesus
Think about the military too.
You're a strong soldier in the military.
You see what's going on.
Does everything that's happening in Ukraine, if you were to study everything that happened in Ukraine and they were like, you're getting ready to, okay, now we've got to send American troops over.
You're going to Ukraine.
What would you say?
You'd be like, pass.
Right?
Pass.
Who would it get to?
hannah claire brimelow
It would be down to people who probably don't even know how to pull a gun out of And we were already coming out of that with Afghanistan, right?
I mean, we were in all of the conflict in the Middle East for so long.
There were tons of people who grew up feeling disenfranchised.
Then on top of that, there's a complete culture of, I don't want to do this.
There's not a culture of patriotism.
It's a good thing.
You see it in some pockets of society.
But overall, we don't really have any incentive to be in the military, other than the financial benefits, which for a lot of people, it makes a huge difference, right?
Being able to get on the GI Bill and have housing and stuff like that.
But I think we are severely disadvantaged.
ian crossland
Today I was about two in the afternoon after I was reading about this F-35.
I was like, I want to join the military for the first time in my life.
And it wasn't to fight.
It was so that we don't have to fight.
And it was to protect and to serve as some sort of intelligence aspect.
Like, I've been thinking about drones getting hacked and turned around on us for like seven years.
Is military not aware of that?
Are they not focused on that?
tim pool
There's two, there's two trains of thought.
The first is that the system is decaying and corrupt.
led by morons, and so good luck. It's a bureaucratic nightmare and people don't feel fulfilled because
it's hard to move around and do things properly without playing some weird game. The other thought
is the actual US military is a well-oiled machine run in secret through black operations and you'll
never know. Yeah. Pick one.
Maybe it's both!
Little bit of both, huh?
rick dejesus
I meet some...
I meet some strong military guys, but they all seem...
not pumped about the direction of, like we're talking about, the direction of the military.
The guys that I meet are that are like, that are like, ready to go...
I believe are now...
rocking with civilians, like they're...
They're more aware with us and our communities and staying visual on that side.
Those are the type of guys that just get accusations thrown against them so they don't have to be dealt with one day.
Like, oh, this guy looks like he's going to start a revolution of some sorts.
unidentified
Lock him up.
Or they don't take the vaccine.
They get kicked out.
rick dejesus
Yeah, you're out of here.
tim pool
Yeah, that was crazy.
hannah claire brimelow
Which derails generations of military leadership, right?
There's no one to inherit these positions.
rick dejesus
We need strong leadership.
tim pool
I've met a couple guys, and I'm sure to people listening and you guys probably know some too, that I met one guy who was, I think he was a captain, and he was just like, I resigned.
He's like, I'm out.
And he said his intention was to run, was to retire, to be in for his whole career.
And then when they started introducing critical race theory stuff, he was like, nope, I'm out.
It's all you.
ian crossland
That crossed my mind.
I was like, well, if I joined the military, I'd get stuck in some bureaucracy and have to follow orders that I don't agree with.
And I don't know, other than being the president and trying to guide it from the top, I don't know how to help.
tim pool
And you're not going to have access to those people.
The dude who's going to be above you could be woke for all you know.
And he's going to be like, oh, this guy's a troublemaker.
rick dejesus
Go put him in a box.
I love our country, by the way.
I don't want to insult it in any way, but our country is becoming something less desired to fight and risk your life for with the way the direction is trending.
There was a time where people would die for their country, certainly, and people would go to war and go to battle, and people would do anything for their country.
When you look at what we're dealing with today and today's climate with just the state of the country, it doesn't look like something that everyone's just jumping forward to put everything on the line for.
I'm more focused, I feel that way about my community and my family and my friends.
I'm like gung-ho about protecting that infrastructure of community and churches and people that are in my everyday life.
I think it would be hard to get People to risk their lives for the state of this country.
Homelessness, everything that's going on, it's a shame.
ian crossland
And what you're doing serves the military because it protects and stabilizes the local communities so that they don't have to worry about coming in to defend it.
You're there.
You're going to protect it.
unidentified
Right.
rick dejesus
But we got to start thinking about protecting the local communities.
I think I'm doing everything local.
I'm getting out of this.
I'm trying to get out of it.
You already do it.
I'm trying to get out of the matrix as much as possible.
I'm trying to not support any This is a scary thing.
I'm trying to get everything in my life local. I'm trying to be more involved in my community.
I'm trying to be more of a... I'd like to be more of a leader in my community because in case something happens,
you know, we're gonna need each other.
tim pool
This is a scary thing.
People don't know their neighbors. And so what happens when a crisis happens?
What happens when the roads get shut down?
And let's not even talk about the apocalypse.
Let's say, like, sometimes it rains.
Let's say you live in your neighborhood.
Those of you that are listening, how many of you know your neighbors?
I'm sure a lot of you do because the people who listen to this show are on the higher end of the awareness spectrum, bell curve or whatever you call it.
Let's say you live in a neighborhood, when I lived in Chicago for instance, when I was a teenager, when I was into my early twenties and rented an apartment with my friends, you're on the second floor of a house, I didn't know anybody who lived anywhere near me.
What happens if the road gets shut down as a major accident?
Storm hits, massive blizzard, nobody can drive, there's no In-N-Out, there's no grocery store, they can't get supplies to the store, who are you going to ask for help?
You don't even know your neighbors.
You need, people need to talk, like, talk to their neighbors, build community, so that in the event of a flood, a fire, hurricane, you name it, you have a plan for what you do in the event of... A plan and united!
rick dejesus
What happens, what, look, I keep hearing, this is gonna sound like a crazy conspiracy theory, but...
What's the only word you've heard in the last six months to a year is the word AI, right?
AI, AI's going to do everything.
I know bands that are like, AI wrote the song for me.
It will.
I know everybody's talking about AI.
What are you going to do the day that AI shows up at your gate of your community and it's just got to make its rounds to collect tax holdings?
Like, what are you going to do?
tim pool
Nah, nah, nah, nah.
rick dejesus
You don't think it's ever going to get there?
tim pool
You're always going to take your CBDC.
You're going to have your central bank digital currency and it's going to be zapped out of your account.
You don't have to file taxes anymore, don't worry.
That's what they're going to do.
They're going to say, are you tired of filing taxes?
It's a pain in the butt, isn't it?
How about this?
With CBDC, all automatically done for you.
You don't even have to think about it.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, the thing is, AI isn't going to do the things that we need community to do, right?
Like, you have young children and you're married, like, if your wife had a medical emergency in the middle of the night and you had to take her to the hospital, hopefully your neighbor next door would come over and sit with your kids, right?
Like, there are some things that we just can't replace with technology and it's really important to know the people you're around.
We talk about it all the time in terms of being proactive, knowing who your kids are involved with, who you're doing business with, things like that, but there are times that there's just no substitute for the people around you.
tim pool
Ian, you sent me that AI video, right?
ian crossland
Oh, we should play a little bit of that.
I was just thinking about it.
tim pool
Super freaky.
Maybe we'll get like a full segment.
ian crossland
Yeah, that was sent to me by The Architect.
tim pool
Talk about like members only or something.
But this is like, what was it, like five minutes or ten minutes?
How long was it?
ian crossland
It was like three, three to five.
tim pool
Three to five minutes.
A fully AI generated video.
It was AI voice too.
ian crossland
No, I think someone did the voice.
I think it was only the visuals or AI, but I can't tell.
Whoever did the voice is a genius.
tim pool
The voice could have easily been AI.
ian crossland
Great acting.
tim pool
But this is a, this is like a three minute video and we are, after watching this, I'm like, yeah, okay, we're a year away from, from, bro, we're going to pull up the AI.
You're going to type into chat GPT or something.
And you're going to say, Generate me a music video of a song by Adelita's Way.
And it will be perfect.
The video will play.
It will be you guys.
It will sound like you playing and singing.
You'll watch it and say, what is this?
rick dejesus
Sounds like an easy way to cancel anyone.
tim pool
Look what he said!
unidentified
It's just an AI version of you saying the worst things ever.
rick dejesus
You're like, I didn't say that, I swear!
tim pool
Or you can't cancel anybody anymore.
rick dejesus
Yeah.
tim pool
Because everyone just says it's AI.
I said it's about Trump.
Trump can come out and be like, that was AI.
rick dejesus
Look at the capabilities of what the... There's a video of the progression of even just a physical robot and what they can do.
And when you watch that video, you will be like, that's what robots are doing nowadays?
They can do front flips, back flips, land comp... There's a version of a robot out there right now that's so advanced.
That it's concerning.
ian crossland
Dude, there's slime robots.
Have you seen them?
They're amorphous, they're like amoeba, and they're robotic.
They're like, I don't know if they're iron graphene, I don't know what they're made of exactly, but they can go around and through cracks and stuff.
rick dejesus
Well, they really must be susceptible to ARs, because that seems to be the thing that they want none of us to have.
tim pool
They're mounting rifles onto these drone dogs.
Have you seen the videos?
rick dejesus
Right, and I'm going to get me some scrap metal because that drone dog is going to get blown away.
Right?
That's the kind of stuff you've got to be ready to blow away.
I don't want to go to civil war and hurt no people.
I don't think that the people we're dealing with even are brave enough to do that.
They seem to kill from afar.
ian crossland
Drone defense is by far the most important thing we can possibly do right now is build up our drone defense systems, be it robot dogs or flying swarm drones.
rick dejesus
Hit them with a couple bullets.
I bet they fall out of the sky.
tim pool
Well, no, no, no, no.
We should use them, he's saying.
ian crossland
No, and we need to learn how to defend against them, too.
That's coming, like, whether it's robots, dogs on the ground, or from the sky, swarming you from every angle.
We need to learn how to defend against that.
tim pool
So, this is the thing about war right now.
It's mostly drones, like we're seeing in Ukraine and stuff.
And so, I think you make a good point in that regard.
What we're missing...
I think is microwave takedown techniques, jamming techniques.
Now, the problem is it's a race.
It's an arms race.
They make more resilient drones.
You make drone takedown methods.
It's just, it's going to be an arms race, you know, uh, an escalation of, of the capabilities of these devices.
I think people need to consider this too.
And I want to save a lot of the AI stuff.
We'll talk about this in the members only, but I warned about this 10 years ago.
I was, uh, Me and my friends, we launched the first live-streaming aerial drone, and we were broadcasting from Occupy Wall Street with it.
We got invited to a bunch of university and government panel stuff.
I was selecting a test location for where they would begin setting up and devising regulations on drones, and I told these guys, You need to prepare for when they take these things and they use them as weapons.
Because if one of these things gets launched from 50 miles away and then sent full speed towards, say, New York City, what do you do?
And they don't even know!
And I'm like, this kind of stuff is at your doorstep.
And this is a terrifying thing, but now you're seeing it in Ukraine where they have these videos where they're using them as weapons of war.
So we definitely need our cities to be proactive on this stuff to prevent it.
I do think there's probably really simple solutions we should think about.
The problem is, what do you do when this thing falls out of the sky?
So if you do like infrared lasers on the top of buildings to target a drone, you know, an unknown drone or vessel coming into your city, if you hit that thing to stop it, it falls.
It's going to land somewhere.
But you know, I don't have all the answers.
ian crossland
Pull it.
You got to pull it towards where you want it to land.
tim pool
But you, bro, okay.
Well, let's save this for the members only.
We'll get more serious on the full AI because we'll play that video too.
But I do want to jump to this story because this is an existential crisis we have that we need to address.
Lampedusa, the migrant crisis.
Nurse says, welcome everyone.
As islands residents complain they have to wait for care.
More than 12,000 migrants have arrived on the Italian island of Lampedusa in the past week, putting the staff, like Franco Galletto, under serious strain.
You may have seen the story.
There's an island in Italy.
It is relatively close to Tunisia.
It has 6,550 or so residents, and there are now 12,000 migrants, economic migrants, who have come in, most of them fighting-age males.
I'm sorry, man.
Look, there's videos of people setting up barricades.
There's a video going viral of people fighting.
That is not from this island.
That was an older video, but there is a video going viral right now that I haven't confirmed, where it shows people setting up barricades, and the argument is, look, these migrants have started setting up their own territorial zones.
You get 12,000 people into your community of 6,000, your community does not exist anymore.
It's over.
The will of the people, right?
Democracy?
Okay, well, these people are here.
If you don't believe in borders, they're going to vote for whatever they want.
I'll tell you this, they're gonna vote take your stuff.
They're going to come in, they're going to take your stuff, they're going to leave, they're going to go somewhere else.
rick dejesus
Right, and what's the number one thing that, you know, the people in charge are trying to do?
Take away our ability to defend ourselves in case of any invasion like this, right?
When I see someone like Gavin Newsom, all his pages is like, we need to eliminate guns and do this.
You can name 10 different things that put us in a bad position if we don't have guns.
This is another one.
tim pool
An invasion of another...
If the videos are true that they're starting to seize territory, now you're getting into war.
And that's a scary thought.
ian crossland
Yeah, someone referred to the migrants that just came in today as reinforcements.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I mean, this island is effectively occupied by migrants from Northern Africa.
That's what this is.
I mean, the Interior Minister of France went there today and he said, you know, we should help Italy.
We should keep our borders open.
It's very important.
You know, the thing is, when you get to Italy, it's a pathway into the EU.
The EU says Italy, you have to process all the asylum seekers.
And so they're presuming that all the migrants there are going to apply for asylum, which I just think statistically is not going to happen.
And so this becomes an incredible problem that communities are having to deal with.
You were talking about wanting to do things locally.
These 6,000 people are now having to accommodate 12,000 people.
It's impossible.
It's not going to happen.
tim pool
It's not just that.
It's that if we're supposed to, you see what AOC was saying in New York when she said, everyone's screaming at her saying, get these illegal immigrants out of our city.
Their resources are strained.
And she says, we're going to give them work rights.
We're going to give them more of our tax resources, and we're going to give them a special protected status.
She's yelling over the people who are screaming at her to stop.
She does not care.
So now think about what's going on with the EU.
This problem's been happening for a decade plus.
It got really, really bad several years ago, and it's not being abated.
If they follow the course they have in many other countries, what's going to happen is the people who are there would be given special rights.
What happens when you have a piece of land with 12,000 people who are not allowed to vote, and there are 6,500 people who do vote?
Eventually, the 12,000 people say, there's more of us than there are of you, and we now get the right to vote.
So what is, what will likely happen in these circumstances is that, I'm sorry, your laws are only meaningful so long as they can be enforced.
Your borders are only meaningful so long as they can be enforced.
12,000 people show up, by all means, your law still exists.
For you, not for them.
They don't know your laws and they don't care.
And if they want to set up barricades and take territory, they'll just do it.
People need to understand that when it comes to law, it's just what's in your brain.
Right?
If you, if you go to a, if you're like from West Virginia and go to Ohio, law's different.
You might just mean you didn't even know it was illegal.
Let's say Pennsylvania.
You're allowed to carry a gun in Pennsylvania, not in New Jersey.
You didn't know that?
Well, you went somewhere else.
The laws were different.
So what this is, is that woman who went to New Jersey and had a gun and didn't know it was illegal and got arrested, she did not know the law of this other place.
Now what happens if 10,000 people cross into New Jersey?
Is that one cop going to be able to stop anybody?
Your law only applies to you who know it and follow it.
And, I mean, to add on top of this, most people don't even know when new laws get passed anyway.
Especially when they ban guns, because it's like, how are you supposed to follow all that stuff?
They expect you to.
ian crossland
That'd be a good app.
unidentified
But does it?
tim pool
But yes, but my point here is this.
If 12,000 people come into Lampedusa, do you think these 12,000 people know what the laws are?
Do you think they care?
rick dejesus
Some are probably evil too.
Some probably will just try to take what's theirs or take what they want.
You're going to deal with a lot of hostility there if 12,000 people that don't have much are in a place that has a lot of resources.
unidentified
Doesn't the EU already subsidize the residences to house immigrants?
So, I mean, we already know the first thing that they're going to do, they're going to start making these locals house these people in their homes.
rick dejesus
Yep.
hannah claire brimelow
The expectation is that you're okay with that.
unidentified
Each house has to, you know, we have double the people in our country now, so you gotta put four people in each house.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and if you read all the mainstream media articles that came out about it today, they all say, but what about the Tunisia deal?
And this was the idea of the UN president, Von Laderson, I can never say her name, but she and the Prime Minister of Italy were working out a deal with Tunisia because Tunisia is the biggest gateway for all of this.
I mean, this is where smugglers headquartered, people who are displaced within Africa know to go to Tunisia and then potentially get into Italy there.
And they were going to offer them Tunisia's economy in shambles, and they're saying, We'll give you a lot of money to stop these boats from coming over.
But we know, we talked about this, that that ultimately means that Tunisia is like, well, when we need more money, we'll just let the migration go back up.
The deal hasn't been brokered.
It's getting stopped.
It's stalled in Brussels.
Ultimately, this is a terrible system.
It's similar to having malware in your casino thing where you can say, give me money.
OK, I fixed the problem.
Just kidding.
It's not.
I want money again.
Like this system is broken and we know it.
And the best that they can do is to say, please, we'll give you money to stop the boat.
unidentified
Well, it didn't work for New York, right?
No.
He was saying, bring all the immigrants in and then now we're going to we're going to subsidize you to house them.
And now he's saying, I don't see an end to this.
hannah claire brimelow
He said New York is a sanctuary city and then started busting migrants to suburbs of New York and upstate New York.
He said this is everyone else's problem.
110,000 migrants have come through New York in the last year.
And at any given time, the state of New York City is caring for between 50,000 and 60,000 migrants.
So they've got to be somewhere.
unidentified
And now they're kicking out veterans out of hotels to, you know, put the migrants in.
tim pool
And New York's already just in disrepair.
There's videos of the rats running around.
hannah claire brimelow
The sidewalk's crumbling and you can see like the subways.
tim pool
Casey Neistat posted this crazy video and I'm like, how did he get this video?
He sees the sidewalk is crumpled and he pushes into it and it just falls straight down and he sticks his camera Into the underground, like, piping and everything, and he was like, the sidewalks are scary in New York.
It's like, well, it's only gonna get worse, brother.
ian crossland
Dude, thinking about this intense overpopulation, this migration, a thousand years ago, if you have 20,000 people arrive on your island of 6,000 people, you fight, you pull out your weapons and defend your island so they don't- It would be war.
Yes, of course.
tim pool
It would be an act of war.
hannah claire brimelow
But the Italians are told to do that is to be racist.
ian crossland
The difference now is we have telephones, we have internet, we know that they're not there to kill.
That's not, I mean, obviously, they didn't come, they would have been doing it if that was the That's not the- It doesn't seem like it, but we need to understand the history of what happens when you let rapid migration encroach on people's territory.
If we don't accept and acknowledge what has happened in the past, it is very likely that it will happen again in the future.
But we can prevent it if we start working on it now.
tim pool
What's happening right now is, this is the challenge.
Nobody wants anybody to die.
So you have these people on boats, and the question is, What do you do?
Turn the boat... I think you turn the boats back around.
That's it.
It's simple.
You go back.
Whatever.
We can't handle this.
But there's the challenge now of... They will beach these boats.
We can't stop all of them.
I mean, it's Italy, so I shouldn't say we, but the people there can't stop all of them.
What do you do?
We don't want anybody getting hurt.
The problem is you've had these videos, especially in the southern border of Mexico, where they're smashing through the barriers and fighting with the border guards.
And so the argument is because they don't have guns, a violent incursion into sovereign territory by another group of people is like, just let it happen.
That's insane to me.
But I'm not going to pretend to have the answers because, like I said, Nobody wants the violence to break out.
Nobody wants violence to break out.
But I fear this will make it inevitable.
Because the people who are there on the island are going to need food.
They're going to need shelter.
And they're not getting it.
There's 12,000 of them.
You're going to probably see attacks on the locals.
You're going to see people get their property taken from them.
And the people who are there are going to start fighting.
rick dejesus
Violence is inevitable when people get desperate and they don't have resources.
It's an inevitable.
Unfortunately, it's great to be like, I love love and peace.
I mean, I promote it every single night on tour.
It's the first thing that I want to promote.
But violence is inevitable when you have people that are desperate and they need to survive themselves, right?
12,000 people on an island, they need to survive.
tim pool
I think the issue here, some people may be a bit more conspiratorial.
I think it's more so that they just don't care.
The the government of Italy they're just like look I'm overwhelmed.
ian crossland
I can't deal with this I know Georgia Maloney was like we don't care they went down there.
This is from other BBC yesterday, Georgia Maloney went to the island She's the prime minister of these people back.
hannah claire brimelow
I know she's hardcore I mean and that was what she campaigned on she campaigned on and I will stop illegal immigration platform So this is a big test for her her government in particular when I one of the things I think The challenges she faces and it reminds me a lot of what's going on in Texas with the floating barrier is, you know, there have been times where she has been like, I'm going to deploy a naval blockade.
So people can't come.
We'll turn the boats back.
You know, you can't come here.
Florida has a policy where you you can't take a boat from Haiti to get here.
They will turn the boat back.
It doesn't count, basically.
In Texas, Greg Abbott's in big trouble because he put up this 1,000-foot orange buoy barrier in the Rio Grande, and initially the DOJ said, you have to take it down.
We're going to sue you because it's inhumane.
This is bad.
We shouldn't stop people from swimming.
And his response was, you're saying it's inhumane because the swim is dangerous, so therefore the deterrent is a good thing because then people don't attempt it.
And they changed their mind.
They said, actually, no, you needed like the Army Corps of Engineers to design this raft.
And really, you violated congressional law.
I mean, they'll twist whatever they want to ultimately get the effect of allowing illegal immigration to continue to the detriments of the communities that are having to accommodate these people and having to provide the resources that they themselves probably don't have.
ian crossland
This makes me think of in Lampedusa, this is like, if you play Civilization, there's a technique in that called a cultural, you can flip a city to your side with cultural pressure.
And now I'm wondering if that's actually, in the game, what you're not seeing is the migration that's happening.
But it's like, Lampedusa's closer to Tunisia than it is to Italy.
tim pool
In the game, this is more akin to just attacking the city.
ian crossland
But it's with unarmed civilians, that's why it's not really, there's no attack.
tim pool
I don't know about the later civilizations, but in earlier games, I know this for sure, I don't know if I've played the later ones enough, if you send units into enemy borders and fortify them, you take that land, and it's a declaration of war.
So, sending even non-military into their country to occupy... Unless you have open borders policy, yeah.
But then they all come in, and then they all surround the city, and they don't attack the city, they just start taking the land, and then it results in war.
The cultural thing is more about the people in the city like your way of life better and vote to join you.
ian crossland
But if the people in the city are my people in your city, then of course they're gonna like my ways better than your ways, but anyway, you're probably right.
Do you guys know...
rick dejesus
You've got to put yourself in the shoes of the people that it's happening to.
Imagine you're sitting in your neighborhood, but your gate and your gate opens up and twice as many people are about to enter your gate that live in your gate.
What do you do if you're the one that's dealing with that?
It's so easy for us to be halfway across the world and think about that happening, right?
But it's starting to happen in New York City.
It's starting to happen in Texas.
tim pool
The biggest incursion.
I have the tweet right here.
Let's pull this story up.
Bill Malugan says, breaking one of the largest mass illegal crossings we have ever seen took place in Eagle Pass, Texas this morning.
Border Patrol source is telling us over 2,200 people crossed since midnight.
It happened right next to the port of entry.
As illegal immigrants continue to ignore the Biden admin messaging of do not come and do not fear the promised consequences of crossing illegally.
Videos from source in Mexico and our Fox drone team.
I mean, look at these videos.
This is bonkers. You've got people in New York screaming at the politicians saying,
stop this, and it's only getting worse. What's the solution?
Do we have to set up, we got to build a wall, got to build a big, beautiful wall
from C to C?
rick dejesus
Or expand, you know, the US is is beautiful.
There's a lot of open land in the U.S.
If the government wants to be so a part of this, they should take some of the funding.
We're giving billions of dollars to Ukraine.
No one knows where the money's going.
Take $2 billion and go in that area in New York where there was nothing and build them a city or something.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't know.
Or put it into revamping of asylum court.
tim pool
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Take the $2 billion, get a bunch of buses that are very nice and very comfortable
and bring them back on it and we send them back home.
We send them back.
The challenge with deportation is that if they're not Mexican citizens,
we can't go to Mexico and be like, we're sending these people to your country within reason.
So they end up getting flown back to say Guatemala or Honduras or wherever they may be from.
Many of these people, not a lot, I'm saying, I'm not saying the majority,
but a lot of them are coming from South America and even Africa.
They'll fly from Africa to Brazil and then trek all the way up to the southern border where they know they can just walk into the United States.
ian crossland
But Venezuelans coming illegally through Mexico into the U.S.
is kind of like if Chris gave you a Dr. Pepper and you spilled it on me, I can't blame Chris because you're the one that spilled it.
Mexico is the one that's letting them across the border.
So of course, hell yeah we can send them back to Mexico.
tim pool
I'm just saying like There are certain circumstances where we go to Mexico and it's like, hey, we have a bunch of these citizens that are not our citizens.
You can't send them here.
ian crossland
It's like it's a finger trap.
They want it.
It's like if it was easy, it would have been solved already.
tim pool
We got it.
We got it.
How about this?
I think it's a good point.
Take all that money that went to Ukraine and just spend it on transportation for these people back to their homes and securing the border and stopping this because We can't sustain this economically.
When these people are screaming at AOC, like, get these people out, it's because they're saying we're cutting services.
We're cutting police.
We're cutting, you know, your tax benefits to fund these other people who had just arrived.
People are like, this is insane.
I've been paying into the system and now it's being taken from me by these strangers who are coming in and effectively stealing from us.
They should just say, you are not welcome to just illegally enter.
All immigrants are welcome in the United States, but you got to do it legally.
unidentified
We could also maybe, instead of investing in slave labor in China, maybe start building factories in these Central American, South American countries that are more than our neighbors are.
tim pool
Also disagree.
We should build factories in the United States for American workers.
unidentified
Well yeah, I mean that's definitely the first thing to do, but maybe help these other countries that are to the south of us maybe have a better economy so they don't want to come here.
We already spend the money in China.
Might as well get closer to our home.
hannah claire brimelow
It's kind of an interesting argument.
Would it be better to make it in, at least in North America or at least in this part of the world, in South America than in China and potentially alleviate our immigration problem?
unidentified
It'd be good for the climate too, you know, not as long of ship rides for the cargo.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, I ultimately think, yeah, manufacturing jobs should come back to the US, but it's not a bad point.
It is interesting that we're willing to ship manufacturing somewhere else, but we're saying, oh, these people are fleeing economic and political turmoil, yet we are not adjusting anything we're doing Yeah, my number one option is bringing back manufacturing back to the United States, but I mean, that's not happening either, so... Why is AOC so confident in just telling New Yorkers how it is like this?
rick dejesus
Why is she just out there, like, they're all yelling at her and she's out there like, you're all... She's not listening to anybody.
She's just not listening to what none of the people of the community are saying.
Why does she feel that comfortable?
She could just go in there and no one's gonna do nothing.
unidentified
It's crazy.
hannah claire brimelow
And because she says she's a moral hierarchy, right?
tim pool
Because nobody can vote her out.
So she's gonna win her primary, because she got like 14,000 votes, she gets a primary.
So she doesn't care what one protest thinks, because the average person is not voting.
And that's why people need to go out.
Man, I'm telling you, I think AOC could easily lose her district, especially over this.
But people have to go there and just start spreading the word, informing people.
Because what happens is, the average person who votes in the primary, which effectively gets her elected, the average person who votes in the congressional elections, they just vote for Democrats.
They don't care who it is.
AOC knows.
rick dejesus
That's gotta stop.
tim pool
The only people screaming are the people who pay attention.
Guess what?
You're few and far between.
So she's thinking to herself, I can say whatever I want.
It doesn't matter.
Nancy Pelosi said, she held up a glass of water and said, People will vote for a glass of water if you put a D on it in my or AOC's district.
They know it.
They know that there's no... This is what Republicans need to do.
Republicans need to invest a stupid amount of money in her district.
That's it.
rick dejesus
Like they're doing in Texas.
The Democrats are doing that in Texas to try to really get as much influence they can there, but it's just... I don't know.
Looking at the parties, it just gets confusing because it's half a uniparty.
The Republican Party is pretty weak.
The Democrats come off very evil to me right now.
There's a lot of things that I'm seeing that I'm like, They're evil, man.
ian crossland
I got a super chat.
The guy was like, I also want to join the military, but I can't with Joe Biden.
I won't join Joe Biden's military.
tim pool
That's like, that's the evil.
But it's not even that.
I mean, it was Millie.
You know what I mean?
Like even if Trump gets reelected, is he going to clean house and bring in better leadership?
rick dejesus
He has to.
If he doesn't, I'm going to be suspicious of him.
tim pool
I mean, we're hoping he does, but he did it the first time.
ian crossland
That's why I am suspicious of him because he didn't do it before.
tim pool
So the general idea right now is Trump is your best bet.
It doesn't mean it's a good bet.
I should say it's your best bet.
It's a good bet in that sense.
It doesn't mean you're going to get what you want.
ian crossland
He's a people pleaser.
He's like, uh, do you see him talking about abortion and how he's going to make a deal with the Democrats?
And he's like, I'm going to make a deal that everyone likes about abortion.
15 weeks now.
It's like, dude, stop trying to make everybody happy, man.
That's not, it didn't work the first time.
You can't just, you can't just be an entertainer if you want to be in politics.
rick dejesus
He got clowned pretty hard by the COVID team too, the Fauci and the Birks.
They just ran him.
You know, that was tough for me.
I just want anybody to come in that stops the unjust that we're seeing and the direction of culture and society that we're seeing.
It's getting pretty ugly and it needs to be nipped in the butt and that's why I just keep on putting my faith in God and trying to be closer to my community because I know that's what I can do as my part.
tim pool
This is the most important thing that people can do right now because a lot of these problems that we face are daunting.
And a lot of people want simple solutions like if I vote for Trump, Trump does the job.
Voting for Trump is a good thing to do.
Spreading the word first and foremost is more important because for every person you convince to vote for, and it's not necessarily Trump, it's for somebody who's actually going to uphold our values and try and keep Americans safe and better our economy and better the world.
Convincing people to vote better multiplies your vote for everyone you convince.
But the most important thing is always going to be, I mean first let's go in the hierarchy, the least, one of the least important things in terms of fixing all the problems is going to be just voting for the president.
unidentified
Right?
tim pool
Because you gotta, more important than that, convince other people to vote for a good president.
More important than that, convince people to vote for good members of Congress.
More important than that, convince people to vote locally for your state rep, state senator, city council, you name it.
That's the stuff that has impact on your city.
If everybody got everyone to vote for good candidates at the local level, it starts to fix things from the ground up.
Then the next important thing after all the voting is said and done is you gotta succeed, take care of your family, find a good job, be physically well, stop eating the garbage, start exercising.
You know what I was thinking as I was playing?
I'm playing Baldur's Gate 3. I love this game. It's such a popular game. It's so big and I'm thinking to myself
How many people are playing this game right now and they're not upping their own stats?
When you play games like this you level up you get experience points you level up now your character is
stronger You're unlocking new abilities and I'm like how many people
play this game and love that idea, but don't do it for themselves
That's that I'm like that's to be the training program right? That's the solutions man. You're offering solutions
This is what you do.
You want a training program?
Someone, and I'm sure this exists already, a personal trainer should create the RPG training program where you get, you level up and then they track your stats and then they show you your avatar or whatever.
rick dejesus
It's addicting.
tim pool
Treat it like a video game where you're actually breaking barriers and then it can be like, in order to get, like, I mean like martial arts belts is kind of like this.
rick dejesus
Yep.
tim pool
You level up, you get the next level, you want to attain that, you want to get, I think that's how you got to approach it.
ian crossland
Dude, if you could get crypto for that, and it measured your biometrics, you, like, held the handles, and it's like, you've gained 2% body fat.
And then they put, like, $1.90 in your bank account.
rick dejesus
Whenever you're horny, your wife gets a little heart signal.
tim pool
Wait, wait, wait, wait, hey, this is an idea that might— She knows it's time.
Hey, this is an idea that might get you in trouble, Ian.
ian crossland
It's probably already in development right now.
I would imagine these technocrats... Hey, check it out.
tim pool
An app that generates cryptocurrency when you're... So you got these apps, like I'm wearing this watch, and it tracks vitals and stats and stuff like that.
So once you reach a certain degree of health and stress and it goes down, you're earning more crypto per day.
The more healthy you are, like lower resting heart rate, less stress, the more crypto it generates.
ian crossland
Yeah, you just got to make sure the code is free and that you're controlling, because they're going to be sending all that data, some centralized data.
Ideally, they won't be, but it's likely that if you just grab some random app, it's going to send it to you.
rick dejesus
It can say marriages, right?
You could be like, look, babe, my vitals are saying that we haven't made love in four days.
ian crossland
Your vitals are right.
rick dejesus
My vitals are proving that I need some...
tim pool
Imagine if you made a video game that, like, when you defeat a bad guy and it drops a few gold pieces, you get bonus multipliers based on your personal physical health.
ian crossland
And, like, if you could somehow figure out, like, learning.
If you get paid to learn.
Like, you go down and you're looking at the grass and you can somehow discern, like, what kind of plant that is.
tim pool
I don't know.
That's complicated.
rick dejesus
That's long term.
tim pool
But we can actually, like, if you're playing a game like Starfield or Baldur's Gate or whatever, no one's going to do this because there's no money in investing in it.
It's just a social good that no one's going to want to do.
But imagine it's like, oh, you get 1.1 times your experience points if you're at average health fitness.
If you're above average, you get 1.2 times.
And if you're unhealthy, you get minus one.
ian crossland
Oh yeah, you rest at XP gain.
tim pool
So it's like a way to encourage people, this is the problem right now, is the United States is basically just this gluttonous state of the seven, I shouldn't even say gluttonous, it's all the seven deadly sins.
People are not taking care of themselves, they're not planning for long term, they're not planning their families, they're not battering their bodies, they're just chasing after those dopamine hits, and it's resulting in decay.
unidentified
This would be a perfect opportunity for, like, a really good health insurance company.
But they're all in bed with big pharma, so they'd actually not want to do that.
tim pool
They do this stuff.
Like, insurance companies already do this, where it's like, if you submit your health data, they'll lower your rates and things like that.
unidentified
Sounds like a... It's like, well...
tim pool
It's kind of scary if you think about it, but I don't know, man.
Is it that bad?
The challenge is what are they doing with your data that may be nefarious because there's going to be corrupt people there.
But the idea that you get to pay less because you take care of yourself, I think is a good thing.
unidentified
Yeah, or they pay you in crypto because you save them money.
tim pool
Oh yeah?
Yeah, you make money with your insurance?
ian crossland
I like the insurance incentivization, except that if they are like, did you not get vaccinated for some random thing we think you should be?
Then maybe we'll make you pay more for your insurance this year.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, there's ambiguity in what they define as being healthy or making good choices.
rick dejesus
They could stop making prices up at the hospital.
Take your kid in for a fever.
Yeah, Motrin will do it.
$2,422, you're like, that's a made-up number.
$2,400 for one night in the emergency room.
hannah claire brimelow
Every woman I know who has given birth in a hospital, they say like, you got your bill and you have to go back and ask for an itemized bill, and then the number drops.
It's like when you ask them specifically what you're paying for, they're like, oh, just kidding, we made that one up.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story, which is a hard segue of a relatively silly story.
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer quietly ditches dress code to cater for Pennsylvania Democrat John Fetterman and his shorts and hoodies.
This is just... I mean, like, dude, come on, man.
You want to wear a hoodie with jogging shorts?
That, I do not feel, is appropriate.
However, I don't necessarily... I mean, this is... It is silly.
hannah claire brimelow
It looks like he got lost and wandered in there.
tim pool
Right.
And so, my issue is this.
First, I agree with everybody when they're like, don't change the rules for one dude.
It's like, yeah, okay.
There is no formal dress code.
It doesn't exist.
It's basically just whosoever the Senate leader just determines if you're into quorum or whatever.
But they typically require coats and ties.
I disagree with that.
I also disagree with Fetterman wearing gym shorts, jogging shorts and hoodies.
That's silly.
But I do think we shouldn't demand this elite decorum of suit wearing and special dresses and all that stuff.
So my attitude is...
You should be dressed appropriately, meaning the dress code should be something like you have to wear pants, you have to wear shoes, you have to wear a shirt.
You can be removed if you are determined to be, like, unkempt or something like that.
But I don't agree overall with the standard dress code people expect, you know, suit wearing and stuff.
And so the important thing to consider, as we kick this segment off, Donald Trump ate a well-done steak with ketchup.
It was a 30-day dry-aged steak at a fancy restaurant and he said, how do you want it?
He says, well done with ketchup.
And the media mocked and insulted him for it.
But Trump is smart.
He laid the trap.
When the media came out and started insulting Trump for eating a steak well done with ketchup, a lot of poor people in this country eat their steaks well done with ketchup.
They can't afford the good fancy 30-day dry-aged steaks.
They want something that just tastes good and they slap some ketchup on it.
And that's, that's for some people.
Not everybody.
You know, there are poor people who understand the finer things in life and know how to make a good steak.
I'm not saying that's not true.
But right now, the Democrats are trying to lay us.
They're trying to use Fetterman as the everyman.
A guy who's just wearing a hoodie and shorts.
He's just a regular working guy.
rick dejesus
That's probably not his real outfit.
That's what I was thinking too.
He probably goes home off camera and puts a suit on and sits in it.
He probably sits in a suit in his living room and goes, I wish I could just dress like everyone else.
They're probably like, no, John, you're putting on the hoodie and you're putting on the shorts.
Get on camera.
tim pool
But I think in all seriousness, you're probably right to a certain degree.
He goes home, he doesn't wear that.
I bet he wears just like jeans and a t-shirt, normal clothes.
And then he puts on the hoodie and shorts for a persona.
And they want you to insult him for it because they're hoping you insult working class people in PA.
I'm not saying every working class person in PA wears this, but there are, I was seeing a lot of people post on Twitter saying like, hey man, a lot of us up here in Western PA, we dress similarly.
rick dejesus
They have all our data.
They did a poll.
They have all our data.
They're looking, they're like, hoodie and shorts.
hannah claire brimelow
And he campaigned in the hoodie, too.
I mean, this has been a consistent thing for him.
I don't personally think that there's anything wrong with having different standards of dress and having some places where it's more formal and whatever else.
And again, that might be, like, the culture I grew up in, right?
Like, I grew up going to church and everyone wore a coat and tie.
Like, I'm comfortable with it.
I can understand where it maybe doesn't function as mandatory.
Like, does it make a difference if you're a congressman wearing a tie?
I don't know.
In this case with Fetterman, I feel like they're trying to act like whatever he does is normal because he's not okay.
And I think in that way, it's somewhat insulting to his constituents, right?
To say that, oh, well, he's just trying to relate to you because he also wears a hoodie to work.
Like, no, he gets special exceptions because he has never seemed to really recover from the stroke he had.
tim pool
Yes, but most people don't watch the news.
They don't pay attention.
They hear things in passing.
That's why CNN does stuff like, despite there being no evidence of a crime, they're trying to impeach Joe Biden, which is just not true.
There's tons of evidence of a crime.
It should be determined by a jury, first by Congress and the Senate, then by a jury, whether or not it was criminal.
But that's the setup, I suppose.
rick dejesus
Well, Federman runs one of the most corrupt states in the whole entire country, and all we talk about is his hoodie and his pants.
hannah claire brimelow
Someone in his office does run one of the most corrupt states.
I'm not sure it's him.
rick dejesus
Yeah, I agree.
I think, yeah, he's definitely, you know, had health problems, but Pennsylvania is very corrupt.
I mean, I grew up in Pennsylvania, and it's...
tim pool
It's we should be talking about the job he's doing Well, I mean, I love this conspiracy theory that they swapped him out with a body double.
Yeah, I think is Alex Stein promoting that one I don't know.
He loves conspiracy theories, but I I don't people Because Fetterman shaved and he got a mustache.
They're like, it's a different guy!
And it's like, oh, come on.
It's not a different guy.
His nose has the same shape and everything.
And his ears are the same.
And they're like, no, his ears are bigger in one photo.
It's like, dude, that's a wide angle versus a long.
carter banks
Yeah.
tim pool
I know.
unidentified
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
There was one where like, they couldn't see the tattoo on his arm.
So they're saying like, oh, it's gone.
So it must be someone else.
rick dejesus
People just can't believe he won.
People can't believe like, wow, that's the.
That's the guy in PA, huh?
tim pool
This is the issue about people not paying attention to the news.
That they can just run a headline, insert something nonsensical, and people just believe it.
So when it comes to Fetterman, the average person doesn't hear him talk.
The average person does not know or care.
They see a picture of a dude who's supposed to look like a regular working class guy.
He's not.
And then when the media attacks him, All they know is like, they're attacking John.
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
What did he do?
He's like a regular dude.
rick dejesus
And it's like... They're like a stroke on camera.
This is happening now.
They're having like strokes on camera and then be like, it wasn't a stroke.
tim pool
It's like... They translate for him.
rick dejesus
I saw that it was a stroke.
How many times can we see something with our own eyes and then get reported that it was not what we saw and we're like, I saw it.
tim pool
That's the point.
You watch the video.
90% of people won't.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So then what happens is Federman is sitting in Senate, in the Senate, and he goes, why?
Of course!
Gasoline?
It's too much!
Why?
Huh?
And then the media will then write in a paragraph, John Fetterman gave a passionate and exasperated plea to lower the price of gas and reduce the amount of cars on the highway.
They won't actually quote what he said, they'll just create an interpretation.
Then someone will see a picture of John Fetterman going like this, like, hmm, and then it'll say that, and they'll be like, wow, and they won't realize that he didn't actually say anything English.
rick dejesus
I'm voting for this guy, his fingers up.
Passionate.
hannah claire brimelow
He's wearing the hoodie, I believe.
tim pool
To be fair, Michael Malice said this is the guy to vote for.
No, but you want more incapable individuals in Congress.
hannah claire brimelow
I disagree, because who's staffing them, right?
Like, if he's a puppet, someone's maneuvering him.
tim pool
He's not a puppet.
It's that he is in there confused and bewildered, and his office is in disarray.
And so if every member of Congress and the Senate were as disheveled and disoriented as Fetterman, then the government would just be Stuck.
rick dejesus
Well, they already are stuck.
What happened?
What did we get the report out?
Uh-oh.
We seem to have misplaced $176 trillion.
You guys seen it anywhere?
Like, what happened, really?
There was hundreds of millions of dollars misplaced.
tim pool
Well, we just lost a $100 million jet.
unidentified
We lost a $100 million jet, but there was— It's like $20 billion today, I think, they lost.
rick dejesus
They did like an audit of the Pentagon.
They did something, right?
And they found a crazy amount of missing money.
And I was like, you should check Ukraine.
It could be there.
ian crossland
Is there a website where you can see how much money was lost today by the U.S.
government?
hannah claire brimelow
No, but there should be.
ian crossland
Somebody make that website.
That'd be nice.
rick dejesus
We should look at the offshore accounts too.
It might have been lost to those.
tim pool
I want to address this about the uniform because Cain Abel superchatted saying that wearing a suit and tie is about respect for the office and those that represent.
It's not about elitist behavior.
How many suits do you own?
How many suits do you own?
unidentified
One.
tim pool
One suit?
rick dejesus
Yep.
tim pool
How many suits do you own?
unidentified
One.
ian crossland
I got like seven jackets.
tim pool
How many suits do you own?
ian crossland
No, I don't know.
One suit.
One suit.
It's a disco suit and I should wear it soon.
carter banks
They're very old and they don't fit very well anymore.
tim pool
I don't own any suits.
Now, you have one.
rick dejesus
One.
tim pool
If you're going to be in session where you have to be wearing a suit every day, one's not gonna cut it.
You're gonna need a couple more.
rick dejesus
Right.
tim pool
How much that suit cost?
rick dejesus
It was expensive, yeah.
Too much.
tim pool
It's a good one.
It's a good one.
But they have affordable suits for people who don't want to break the bank.
I would also assume the average person, if you couldn't afford it, if you're living paycheck to paycheck, you're probably gonna have to go to a thrift store to buy a suit.
I'm not saying suits are the hardest things in the world to get.
I just don't like the idea of some arbitrary cultural standard of what you must now own to represent working-class people or anyone in this country.
Suits In my view, are this social custom of, I am wearing a thing because we have deemed this to be the thing you have to wear in this setting.
It doesn't mean anything to me.
I would rather see a dude in his work overalls with grease on his hands in the Senate building saying, I got off work 20 minutes ago and I'm not going to drive an hour back and forth just so that I can put on a suit for you.
This is what real working class Americans look like.
Instead, we get clammy hands, Frail, dainty, multi-millionaires doing insider trading, wearing their suits, and demanding, here's the worst part.
Here's what I hate about this.
Okay, fine.
You want to make an argument, everyone's got to dress up, that's fine.
The problem is this.
My compromise is, you want a dress code for Fetterman?
They have to pay for it.
You can't mandate someone.
But then, what about visitors?
What about people who want to testify?
You want to go and testify?
We have a dress code.
You can't come in unless you're wearing a suit.
The expectation that every person in this country is going to have access to these things.
Now again, I will stress, I'm not saying it's the hardest thing in the world to get a suit, but I just don't like the idea that there could be a circumstance where we want a farmer to testify and he says, look man, I'm in the field 16 hours a day.
I ain't got no time to go out and get a tailor fit suit or find a suit.
Maybe I can borrow one.
But if they want to come in and they want to show what it actually is like to be the person who is the foundation of this country, producing the things that make this country good, or make this country function, then I think it's fine to say, okay, maybe you shouldn't have grease on your hands.
Wash your hands in the bathroom.
Clear that off.
But if you're going to show up showing the American people this is what it looks like when you work for this country, I find that acceptable.
And I don't like that they're like, you can't come into our elite chamber because you represent this country, so you have to wear the clothes we determine you can wear.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and it's reflective of a larger cultural change.
I mean, we used to be a more formal society.
Men used to wear hats.
Like, there were all kinds of things that we used to do that still cling on some parts of society and don't exist everywhere, right?
Like, a hundred years ago, hoodies didn't exist.
People still got dressed.
They wore something else.
I mean, there was a time when there was an expectation of dress code that was just different.
And maybe it's good that our culture has changed, but I don't think that, like, It has to be elite.
I think you're right that people should be able to come, should be excluded especially if it's going to affect their daily lives because they don't have a suit.
tim pool
I got no problem with you have to wear pants, you have to wear shoes, you have to wear a shirt, and you have to be clean.
I can totally understand all those things.
There's questions of hygiene and I do respect to a great degree the idea of professionalism.
I don't respect the idea of the arbitrary suit as the symbol of what it is to be professional because I view a working class American in his, maybe it's a mechanic and he's wearing a jumpsuit.
That to me is more indicative of someone who works for this country than these, I'm going to refrain from cussing and insulting these pieces of trash, these corporate funded sellouts who don't actually represent you and your values and sell your values out to the highest bidder.
I have very little respect for these people.
And to be like, it's the clothing they wear that shows professionalism.
I'm sorry, dude.
How about this?
Every one of these people has to wear the outfit that is deemed, that is the average worker's clothing in the state they come from.
rick dejesus
They sold us out to the max.
It feels that way right now.
Right now, today, I feel like we've been sold out to the max by the people that are in charge.
I feel like it's, I feel that way personally.
I'm like, man, they, every time they get together, they don't make the right decision for the civilians and the people every single time.
And just like what you're saying, you're having a hard time even not saying bad things about them.
You want to lose your mind.
You want to be like these.
But it's a right attitude to have because look where we are right now.
tim pool
None of these people are an actual representation of the people in their state.
Maybe a couple, and I want to say, I shouldn't be absolute because there's a handful of people I do like that are in Congress and the Senate, but I'm just, I'll say it again, the idea that they determine that what they wear is proper respect and what the average working class American wears is disrespectful, I do not like that idea.
Again, Federman should not be wearing jogging shorts.
That I agree is like- No hammer pants.
Yeah, look.
No, I mean pants, whatever, man.
Just wear pants, be clean, wear a shirt and pants.
What about- Shorts, I have no problem saying.
You can't have shorts on, you gotta wear pants.
ian crossland
What about this shirt?
I got a problem with it.
No problem.
I mean, button it up.
tim pool
Button it up.
Don't show your chest or whatever.
And that's the thing about, like, I think it's fine if they're saying he's gotta wear pants at the very least.
Like, shorts are not acceptable.
I'm totally fine with it.
ian crossland
What about color?
Like, if they... Don't care.
tim pool
Color's fine.
rick dejesus
You think they'd kick Sam Smith out for having that shirt of that little baby child?
ian crossland
Definitely not.
rick dejesus
Sucking on a lollipop?
That's not weird.
ian crossland
Open arms.
rick dejesus
They would welcome him in, right?
Oh, Sam, I love your shirt.
ian crossland
On the floor of the Senate.
tim pool
I just, you know, I gotta be honest, I really don't like suits.
ian crossland
I don't like ties.
Neckties are liability.
It's a choke hazard.
carter banks
That's the first thing I thought of when we were talking about suits is your choke hazard necktie.
ian crossland
I can't stand- I don't wear neckties, I wear suit jackets happily because they keep me warm and they look nice, but like, this is like- they are servants, yeah, and you want to remind them you're a servant, and wear that tie, servant.
But at the same time, you know, I can't- I just- I think it's pretentious.
rick dejesus
Gucci suit.
tim pool
I think it's pretentious.
I agree when people say we want to represent this country well, and we want to look professional and clean.
You are correct.
It is not correct in my opinion, however, that that is the only way to do it.
Fetterman is not professional there.
We agree.
Wearing that suit is not the only way to be a professional, and so we should have respect for people who represent this country in other ways.
ian crossland
Brief aside, do you know why Fetterman doesn't wear suits?
tim pool
It's a gimmick.
He's worn a suit on a few occasions.
And it's a gimmick.
Like we were saying, I doubt he wears that at home.
I mean, why are you wearing a hoodie and shorts?
It's contradictory.
ian crossland
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
It's not.
rick dejesus
Yeah, right.
It's an oxymoron.
hannah claire brimelow
I knew a bunch of girls who would wear, like, the mini skirts and UGG boots, and it would make all of our female teachers so mad.
They're like, if you're cold wearing UGG boots, why are you wearing a skirt?
rick dejesus
I'm gonna wear a short shirt, but can I wear these gloves?
ian crossland
Yeah.
rick dejesus
You don't need gloves right now, bro.
unidentified
I don't know, man.
ian crossland
That's weird.
tim pool
That's just my thing, whatever.
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Cat facts!
Super chatted saying cats can jump up to six times their height.
Wow, that's really great.
I just want to give a shout out to Baldur's Gate 3 and the ability to speak to animals because you can talk to all the animals and it's hilarious.
ian crossland
Yeah, I gave three of my characters that ability.
tim pool
And you talked to like the dogs.
ian crossland
Just in case.
It's really funny because the dogs- Squirrels, you name it.
tim pool
You go up to a dog and the dog's like, hello friend, I hope you're doing well.
And you go up to the cats and they're like, servant, help- I'm not kidding.
You talk to the cat and it's like, servant, please, I need food.
Like, I'm dead serious.
It's really funny.
Like, that's what they think cats are thinking.
rick dejesus
And they probably are!
I have cats that think they're dogs.
I have two cats that think they're dogs.
ian crossland
Do you have a dog too?
rick dejesus
I have four dogs that the cats only have ever- my two cats have only ever been around dogs and humans.
They do so many dog-like things that I don't think they've figured it out yet.
They lay with the dogs, they eat at the same time as the dogs, they try to go out the dog door, it's like... They're puppies.
Two dog cats.
tim pool
They're doing dog stuff, huh?
rick dejesus
Yeah, they are.
tim pool
Alright, Max Reddick says, Tim, you gotta have Destiny back on to debate Joe Biden's corruption regarding the quid pro quo.
He's heard the arguments but isn't buying it.
ian crossland
Yes, I just watched a two-hour video of Destiny on his channel, which you should watch from, I think it's yesterday, of a guy just explaining everything from 2014, and I watched about 40 minutes of it so far.
tim pool
And then he just goes, no.
ian crossland
No, he's writing it down as the guy's explaining it to him, and we should have the guy that explained it to him on the show because he knows everything.
Everything, you know, so much.
tim pool
But what is Destiny's response?
Did he say anything?
ian crossland
I watched about 30, yeah, he's like, just, just keep, don't worry about Donald Trump, because the guy's like, and I should point out that if this happened with Trump Jr.
and Destiny's like, Devin, don't worry about that, just, I'm, my brain is open, I want the information.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
And the title is Destiny, Here's the Conservative Pill, or whatever.
And it's pretty, it's wonderfully entertaining, not only to see someone learning, but to have the data.
tim pool
It is not a conservative position to point out Joe Biden did these things.
These are fact-based things.
Joe Biden got... Okay, let's start from the beginning.
Hunter Biden calls DC and says, we need help dealing with a prosecutor who's investigating Burisma.
Shortly after that call, I think it was a few days or it might have been a week, Biden flies to Ukraine and says, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you're not getting a billion dollars.
Under what authority does Joe Biden do this?
Well, the argument is under the president's authority.
Okay, sure, fine, whatever.
The prosecutor gets fired, later signs a sworn affidavit saying he was fired because he was investigating Burisma, where the son of Joe Biden was on the board.
Let's pause right there.
What do we have here at the bare minimum?
Joe Biden engaged in a conflict of interest.
Should have not been involved in Ukraine so long as his son was involved as well.
rick dejesus
He tells that story, too.
Out of his own mouth, he goes.
tim pool
That's right.
rick dejesus
He proves himself.
It's on video.
He tells that story.
tim pool
The bare minimum we have, if the story was literally just as Joe Biden explained it and nothing else, it's a conflict of interest and it should have been stopped and should be investigated.
And if that's all it is, fine, so be it.
But considering Devin Archer and Tony Bobulinski have already testified that Biden was influence peddling using his son as a proxy, effectively testified to that degree, Devin Archer saying that Hunter Biden was selling the brand, saying, my dad's the VP, this is what you get.
Then Hunter being told to make the call to protect the company, Joe Biden was very much involved.
Plus, then you have Hunter Biden saying his dad takes his salary.
You have the email where he says 10% for the big guy.
We know exactly what's going on.
For anyone to hear these things and be like, no, they're just lying to you.
They are outright just saying to your face, they don't care.
rick dejesus
There's bank documents too.
You could see the bank documents and then they even have it broken down to the list of things that he spent the money on at.
He did housework on his Delaware property.
He did housework on a beach property.
They have it down to like, They found the money, they found where it all went, and they found where it all went out to.
It's like a money trail.
Hard.
ian crossland
The video on Destiny's channel is called Destiny Wipes Away His Opinion on Biden Takes Conservative Pill.
It's from four days ago.
tim pool
Takes Conservative Pill?
He's a grifter!
And he's realized!
ian crossland
But he's like sticking with it.
It's badass.
tim pool
No, the thing about Destiny is that he very, very much does have hard, liberal, moral perspectives and has no problem saying them outright.
He agrees on the facts.
So we get along.
I think he's great.
He comes and hangs out and then we're like, we'll talk about something.
We were playing poker and we'll say something.
He's like, well, of course, but here's what I think.
And I'm like, how could you have that moral opinion?
He's like, because I do.
For example, The first time he came on, he made a comment about the COVID policies they implemented using the crisis as an excuse to steamroll things through.
And his response wasn't, no, that never happened.
It was, when else would you do it?
And so it's like, he understands the fact.
When COVID happened, they steamrolled in policies exploiting the crisis.
My view is that's an immoral thing to do.
His view was, When else would they do it?
They need to implement change?
This is the perfect time.
And I'm like, that's interesting.
And he's totally honest about his views morally.
Okay, we disagree on that.
That's fine.
You're allowed to.
So I'm a big fan.
I'll check that out.
It's good.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Matt Kinder says, I'm heading to Miami so I can ask Hannah Clare to marry me and I get to meet Trump Jr.
as well.
What a day.
I can't wait.
ian crossland
She might say no.
Just be prepared.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I'm just gonna direct all inquiries to Dane Font on Twitter and also just like send her diaries to my dad, you know?
tim pool
And, uh, well, you know, and actually because of the Me Too movement, you know, we're gonna have to tell you that you're not allowed to do that, but Carter will be there and you can certainly propose to him because he's a guy, so it's not a Me Too thing.
ian crossland
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
All right, let's grab some more Super Chats.
Jeremy Paul says, first time being able to make it by eight.
Love the show.
Keep doing what you're doing.
Please ask Phil and these fellas about their thoughts on BRRF 2023.
Love the rock genre.
Keep up the work, guys.
Are you familiar with that?
rick dejesus
What, Blue Ridge?
tim pool
Oh, is that Blue Ridge Rock Fest?
rick dejesus
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Were you guys there?
rick dejesus
No, we weren't there.
We had a great experience last year.
You guys were with us.
That was awesome.
We got to see you guys play.
It was amazing.
Thank you.
We had a great time with you guys and our experience was great.
tim pool
This guy's throwing the drumstick in the air as he's playing.
ian crossland
With amazing posture.
Trevor's posture's incredible.
unidentified
Yoga, man.
Yoga.
rick dejesus
He does got great posture.
tim pool
It's good posture.
unidentified
No, yoga.
But we didn't go either, I mean... So you were saying there was hail?
rick dejesus
We dodged a bullet.
Yeah, we didn't go.
tim pool
It was rough this year.
unidentified
So this is hearsay.
Like, I wasn't there, but the tour we're on right now, the sound guy is the... Dang, who was he doing the sound for?
I don't remember.
It was... Black Label Society's guitar player, maybe?
I don't know.
It was a disaster.
He was there and he didn't even leave this hotel because he said that there was a ton of hell and they had to cancel the whole thing.
The whole thing?
The whole thing.
They moved locations from last year, which last year was, you were there, even though it was raining, it was very smooth.
All the bands were on time, all the bands got to play, it was great.
This year they moved locations, they had trouble shuttling people to and from the show, and there was really horrible weather.
So I support Blue Ridge Rock Festival.
We love it.
rick dejesus
They treat us great.
And I really hope they bounce back from this.
If you're a fan, listen and don't give up on them.
Give them another chance.
tim pool
It was a lot of fun last year.
rick dejesus
Fun festival.
hannah claire brimelow
They don't control the weather, you know.
rick dejesus
They don't control the weather.
Independently owned, you know, for now until... Is it?
Yeah.
tim pool
That's great.
It's massive.
I got to see Guar and Tenacious D.
I think, I think today's deal was right after GWAR.
rick dejesus
Every time a corporate entity buys one of these things, we get exiled.
Natalie Des Moines is the first band out.
Seriously, we used to do a couple of big ones.
And then, and then the corporate faction, it gets so successful, the corporate monsters come in and they buy the festival.
And then, and then that next year, I'm like, Hey, we doing, we doing Ink on the Clink again?
And they're like, Nah, man, it got bought out.
You'll never play it again.
It's like, yeah, as an independent act.
Yeah, we gotta do our own.
tim pool
We gotta do our own.
We got some stuff working on in the background.
We're putting together a convention.
Okay.
I won't say too much until we get the ball rolling on it, but we're looking at areas, an area probably out here in some part of Appalachia where we can get a big enough space.
But we want to do... Alright, I was going to say it anyway.
The preliminary stuff is we want to do An independent media and parallel economy convention, where it's basically we've got this growing space of all these independent content creators across the board from sports, science, politics, you name it.
And so I'm like, I mean, we should have a place where once a year everybody comes together and we build that community.
You know, we're doing this thing in Martinsburg where we want to, it's preliminary as well, but we're having a meeting about it in a couple days, to invest in a bunch of businesses and set up brick and mortar shops for these parallel economy businesses, these companies that Public Square supports and that support Public Square.
rick dejesus
That's a great idea.
tim pool
And then I'm thinking, like, well, what about, like, we might have that cool little, you know, strip of downtown where people can hang out and go to Cousin T's diner and get some Casper coffee, maybe a slice of pizza at Papa Jack's, but what about a once-a-year convention?
And it's like, okay, well, you know, let's find a place where we can something.
So it's very, very preliminary, but that's the general idea.
rick dejesus
Get brilliant minds together, too.
Culture wars.
Get brilliant minds together.
We're the think tank.
They're meeting in Davos.
Those 2,000 to come up with plans.
Why can't we meet somewhere and come up with our plans?
We're smart.
tim pool
We've got good game plans.
Aside from that, we should make our own music festival.
We should.
We've got to start making these things.
hannah claire brimelow
Wouldn't it be cool to have those days where people are talking to panels at night and have musical performances from people who are in the space?
ian crossland
Like they kick on at 6 or something.
What would be a good amount of bands to get for like a solid festival day or weekend?
rick dejesus
Trevor does all the scheduling, so you can just go through the schedule in your mind, right?
unidentified
I'd say like 15 bands probably, 10-15 bands.
For one day?
Yeah.
tim pool
But we do, let's say we do a convention out here somewhere on the East Coast, somewhere, you know, Appalachia.
We find a big enough center.
Maybe we start small.
We start small, we expect a couple thousand attendees or something, and then we get some bands interlaced with speakers, and it's just like two or three days.
You look at what, like, Charlie Kirk does, and they got massive stuff going on.
rick dejesus
I think you could have some massive too.
I think that there's a movement right now.
I think bands used to be super, like, when we used to walk into a room early on, because we were kind of like, We had this kind of mindset years back.
We were like the outsiders everywhere we went in the music industry, but now we're noticing that we're showing up and there's bands that are more like-minded to us.
I think there's some of the biggest bands too.
I think a band, you could have a band like Shine Down or Phil's band too.
There's more of a culture coming up.
That I think would fit in with what you're talking about in a festival.
So it could be bigger because you could just get the right act to headline it who feels passionately like we all do.
unidentified
Look at Blue Ridge.
One of the coolest moments that happened is because I think they lost power.
There's a viral video going.
Where Shinedown got on a stage with their acoustic guitars and they played one of their biggest hits, Second Chance, in front of thousands of people, no PA, everyone shouting the lyrics back at them, and Oliver Anthony's on stage with them, playing his guitar, and that was a super cool moment.
tim pool
I wonder if Billy Corgan would come to Smashing Pumpkins.
ian crossland
Yeah, probably.
tim pool
He's super cool.
Yeah.
ian crossland
They're so good, man.
Every time I hear Pumpkins, they're getting better and better, too.
tim pool
Always.
ian crossland
I don't know if I'm enjoying it more, or if Billy's just more woke up.
tim pool
I have a first edition Siamese Dream vinyl.
I love this.
ian crossland
What a great album.
rick dejesus
Dude, that album rocks.
You know what?
You two have some stuff in common.
With songwriting, you do your own thing, and he was all about that, man.
When you listen to him talk about songwriting, he's like, I want to do things that are different.
I want to go and be myself and try all these changes.
Sometimes when I hear your songwriting and when I listen to you, Your writing reminds me of Billy's.
tim pool
Would be cool.
I met him once.
He signed a poster for me.
It's a crazy story because I met him all excited.
He was like, you're Tim Pool!
And I was like, whoa.
This is a crazy day for me.
This was several years ago.
But I'm a huge fan.
I grew up listening to Smashing Pumpkins.
They're one of my favorite bands.
Let's read some more.
We got Adrian Horta-Martinez says, Tim and team, first super chat.
Been here since the beginning.
Montgomery Texan here.
Can you make a segment or shed light on the Terranos Houston story by Daily Wire?
Greg Abbott sold us out letting a city be built specifically for illegal, wow, for illegal immigrants.
That is cartel run and backed.
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
Well, we need to do that thing where we have, like, you, Hannah-Claire, do the breakdown of the Biden scandal.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I'm down.
tim pool
So we should figure that out.
unidentified
Let's do it.
tim pool
I mean, it's up to you.
If you want to write, like, a long-form breakdown of, like, these big events.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I'd love to.
tim pool
Then we just have you record it and then have someone edit a video.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I'm down.
Let's do it.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
There you go.
There you go, Adrienne.
hannah claire brimelow
Okay, coming soon.
tim pool
Right on.
Let's grab some more superchats.
Carsten Ellsworth said they did the same thing to Justin Roiland with Rick and Morty.
He lost everything due to allegations that didn't end up being true.
Why cancel before evidence?
Yup!
Dude, that's crazy too, and they're like, we're gonna keep doing Rick and Morty without Justin Roiland.
How?
He's the voice of Rick and Morty!
ian crossland
Have they done one yet?
tim pool
I don't know.
rick dejesus
It's gonna go downhill.
You get rid of the creator, you get rid of the heart and soul of the project, you're going to be able to tell.
It's like when Game of Thrones went off course and started writing the ending of the series without the books and you were like, you could just immediately tell it's like episode one.
Well, this is worse.
tim pool
Oh man, dude, like the part where it's like they fly a dragon across the entire continent in an hour.
It's just like, did they think about what was going on from the north wall all the way south?
Like, this is the stupidest thing ever.
rick dejesus
Logic went out the window.
Sound familiar?
tim pool
Dude, the new Rick and Morty is going to be hilarious because you're going to get, it's going to show Morty.
It's going to be like, hey, I'm Morty.
And then Rick's going to be like, oh, Morty, I'm Rick.
And you're going to be like, what is this?
This is weird.
ian crossland
I wonder if they'll use AI.
hannah claire brimelow
They'll be like offering cereal.
ian crossland
They're probably rapidly trying to build the AI program right now to mimic Roiland's voice.
We own the rights.
rick dejesus
It needs to be put an end to.
The guilty right out the gate needs to go away.
That needs to stop now.
It needs to be innocent until proven guilty and that's it.
ian crossland
That's huge, dude.
Supporting innocence is such a big part of what we're going through right now.
tim pool
Bro, I'm willing to bet that I can drop Rick's voice, Justin Roiland's voice, into Eleven Labs, and it will give us Rick.
But we'll do this in the members-only show, because we're in Super Chits now, and we're gonna talk about AI anyway.
So as we're talking about the AI stuff, I will attempt to clone the voice of Justin Roiland, and I think it'll take 30 seconds.
I seriously think it'll take 30 seconds.
Let's read some more Super Chits.
WaffleSense says, I had a Twitter poll, I had a poll on Twitter today, and 25% of the people that took my poll were graped by Russell Brand.
ian crossland
Oh, I see.
That's right.
tim pool
Now you've got a lot more allegations to add to the list, huh?
NeuroDivergence says, Dear Ian, you are the Canada of TimCast IRL.
Sincerely, a Canadian.
ian crossland
Just a friendly ally to the North.
tim pool
That's right.
hannah claire brimelow
Canada's got a great culture.
I say that because I am Canadian also.
Oh, that's true.
ian crossland
I love Canada.
We used to vacation there.
tim pool
R.P.
says, who would win in a fight?
Bruce Lee vs. Tarzan.
Scenario, jungle clearing, no weapons.
I'm sorry, that's a bad question.
It's Bruce Lee, no question.
Why would Tarzan win?
He's got no fighting experience.
ian crossland
But he hides in the trees.
tim pool
No, now get out of here.
Like, dude, we're talking about jungle clearing and no weapons.
ian crossland
So it's an open space.
tim pool
Tarzan's gonna be strong, but Bruce Lee's strong and trained to fight.
rick dejesus
You're talking about a martial artist that some of the greatest martial artists in the world emulate.
You got guys like Anderson Silva, Conor McGregor.
These guys were obsessed with Bruce Lee because he was so good at martial arts.
tim pool
You know, Bruce Lee was so fast, they had to slow the camera down.
Normally, during these movies, they would speed things up to make the action look faster and stronger, but Bruce Lee was too fast.
May have been all the meth he was doing, you know?
I'm not sure.
I think it was meth.
Whatever.
Google it.
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe he's just taking a lot of B12.
tim pool
Wasn't that it?
That he was doing meth a lot?
rick dejesus
I don't know.
tim pool
Are you looking it up?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Was it meth?
rick dejesus
My brother does meth and he's slower than ever.
What's up with that?
tim pool
Well, yeah, because it breaks you, right?
unidentified
LSD, cocaine, cannabis, revealed by Robert Baker.
tim pool
Okay, so he's doing coke.
Well, that could do it, too.
rick dejesus
That makes sense.
ian crossland
His wife told Robert Baker that he was doing coke, LSD, and cannabis.
tim pool
That makes sense.
So I read that his brain was swelling or something.
That's how he died.
And some may have... He used to, like, electrocute himself, too.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
What?
Yeah, it's like... Whoa.
It's a legit thing they do.
ian crossland
They say he did drugs to get into character for movies.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
Like, was he tripping on LSD while he was doing that?
rick dejesus
Oh, man.
ian crossland
That'd be wild.
tim pool
All right, Rob says Aaron Lewis of Stained and Sean Danielson of Smile Empty Soul would be some pretty based guests to have on.
It would also be cool to hear from them and Phil talk about their time in the industry.
Aaron Lewis is going to be out here soon.
rick dejesus
They're both my friends, man.
tim pool
You know Aaron Lewis?
I know him.
He's actually going to be here.
He's going to be at Hollywood Charlestown.
Y'all should come out and check out his show, man, because it's a really great venue for a show like For Aaron Lewis.
I'm googling at the same time.
unidentified
Sorry.
tim pool
Here we go.
Let me pull up the dates here.
We'll give a shout out to him.
December 1st, he's going to be here.
December 1st and 2nd, he's going to be at Hollywood Casino at Charlestown Races in Charlestown, West Virginia.
It's about an hour outside of DC.
Y'all should come.
He's been out here before, but I was thinking about this too.
It would be cool to get in touch with him and see if while he's out here.
I don't know what his tour might be like.
rick dejesus
I can connect you guys.
I can get it done.
tim pool
Hit him up.
I mean, it would be an honor.
That'd be so amazing if we could have him on the show around that time.
rick dejesus
I'll make the connection.
tim pool
It's tough though, because he might have to leave before.
rick dejesus
Let's just see.
Let's try to make it happen.
tim pool
That'd be so amazing.
unidentified
Sean from Smile Empty would definitely come on.
rick dejesus
Well, yeah.
We're looking to do a tour together, so I've been talking to him.
Yeah, these are two guys that I feel like I can maybe connect the dots if you want to Do it to it, man.
Come on.
tim pool
Let's read some more.
We got Brandon Smith.
It says, over 90% of corn, soybeans, and sugar beets in the U.S.
are genetically modified.
Oh yeah, don't you love it?
And not genetically modified in the sense where they cross-select plants to breed for, like, seedlessness or something.
We're talking about injecting E. coli or whatever into the plant itself to alter its genetic makeup.
rick dejesus
Yeah, not like what we picked off your tree in the backyard.
Nothing like that.
You know, that's the goods.
tim pool
Pop on, dude.
rick dejesus
Come on.
tim pool
Yeah.
rick dejesus
I'm gonna go smash a few of those later on.
tim pool
Yeah, so it's like you can just peel them right open.
It's amazing.
It's nuts, dude.
I couldn't imagine, you know, if it's 200, 300 years ago, just living out here, you're like, I can't wait for September when the food is just literally everywhere.
rick dejesus
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
So we've got wild grapes everywhere.
They're called frost grapes.
They taste super tart.
But they're okay.
They're pretty good.
We get berry season.
You get a bunch of fruits.
We got pears.
It's just there's so much fruit.
We might as well be living on a farm.
ian crossland
I said Thanksgiving.
They made a holiday because it was so wondrous when you didn't starve at the end of the summer.
rick dejesus
Yeah, you guys got nothing to worry about, man.
I'm glad that you inform people.
You inform people on what's going on out there, but you are away from the hustle and bustle.
You've got fruit growing in your backyard.
There are no I don't think there's anything to fret over here.
tim pool
We got like 20 deer just around this property.
rick dejesus
It's nuts.
ian crossland
The downside is I don't feel a pulse on the nature of humanity very well out here.
I feel isolated.
rick dejesus
We do.
tim pool
Yeah, but bro, the pulse on the culture of humanity is not in cities.
People have isolated themselves.
They don't even talk to their neighbors.
That's not the pulse of humanity.
rick dejesus
We're on the ground, man.
unidentified
Everyone has like three jobs right now.
That's what we've realized from our fans.
rick dejesus
Our fans all have three jobs.
They're working multiple jobs.
Multiple fans of ours were retired and have come out of retirement.
unidentified
That's the unemployment numbers.
People have to go back to work.
rick dejesus
We are on the ground in America on a van.
We have a sprinter van.
We drive it across the whole country.
We stay in hotels.
We've done 100 dates.
By the end of this run, we'll do 100 dates for the year.
So over the last 15 years, we have the pulse on the United States, and it's worse than I've ever seen it.
And we can't let that bake into our minds because we got to turn it around.
It's time to turn it around.
We can't let negativity win this battle to where we fall into a negative mindset and it just keeps getting more negative.
We got to turn it around right now.
We've got to understand where we're at.
We see the pulse, the US, it's in a negative direction.
It's time to kick it into gear, become united, be a swarm of bees instead of one singular bee.
They'll run, man.
One bee's bugging you, you can slap it away.
Fifty bees are coming at you, you run.
We need to all stick together, come together, and set the tone for the future for us right now.
We're not going to accept the direction that we're heading in right now.
It's not good on the ground.
tim pool
We got one just for you guys.
Falconlator says, I love Adelita's Waze song, Get It On.
However, it sounds really distorted.
I'd pay for a remastered version that has a better sound quality.
Is that like an older song or something?
rick dejesus
Yeah, it's probably something we just put out too.
You know, I like that song too and sometimes we go in the studio and we make what we want and it sounds really different and then it doesn't make a record or it doesn't make you You know, our plans and then eventually we put it out for our fans because it's, you get into the mode of like, why not, right?
Let them hear it.
So I think get it on.
It just, it just, yeah, the budget might not have been the highest for that song that it could have been.
Maybe it needs to be remastered.
I don't know.
I'll look into that.
That's good.
tim pool
You never know because I hear all these stories where it's like the band says, this is it.
This is our hit song.
They put it out and no one cares.
And then they're like, well, here's a B side and then boom, number one.
And they're like, damn.
rick dejesus
Always happens.
tim pool
Yeah.
Like, well, I guess that's what people like, you know?
ian crossland
I thought that was a danger of experimenting as a musician, is if you create an experiment that hits the top, then you're like, well, I don't know how I made that one, that crazy weird thing.
Now I've got to try.
Do you ever get that fear and just end up staying in a lane that's like, I know they like it, let's do more of that?
rick dejesus
No, my biggest, I have the opposite fear.
I want to go in the studio.
I still want to write the best song in the world.
Every time I go in the studio, I've got that kind of like challenge for myself.
I'd love to write just the greatest song that exists at that moment in time, a timeless song.
I think what scares me is what if you had your whole career Where your songs were what they were, and then you covered a song, and the cover song became your biggest song.
That's my fear.
ian crossland
That's true for a lot of people.
tim pool
It happened to my uncle's band, Tim Cuey.
I think that's Orgy and Shiny Toy Guns, I think.
rick dejesus
That's good for them.
There's so many bands.
It's so many bands, and it's good for them, but as far as my personal legacy, it would bum me out if I looked at my catalog of seven records, and the number one top most listened to songs when I didn't write, it would kind of make me be like, Yeah, man.
tim pool
Bro, bro.
Even of these top songs, were they even written by the person who performed them?
rick dejesus
Probably not.
tim pool
Some of them are.
rick dejesus
It's an easier way in the industry to cover a smash.
tim pool
I'm not saying that.
I'm saying, like, an artist will be given a song by a production company saying, like, we wrote this song, it's really good, and you're the person to perform it.
ian crossland
Like Max Martin.
He was notorious to give the Backstreet Boys and Britney and all their stuff.
rick dejesus
Every song.
He wrote them all.
ian crossland
My uncle's band in the 70s, Tin Huey, he was Michael Aylward, the lead singer.
They hit it big with a Monkees cover and never went anywhere.
It never really went anywhere.
They had a Sony, I think it was Sony deal, two records.
It was just so popular, the cover, the already awesome song, and they were like Devo.
They didn't really have like a, it was that weird Akron sound they had going on.
tim pool
Well, I'll tell you this though, for in a lot of ways, if you're, I would rather go see a cover band than like most local bands.
rick dejesus
That's a good point.
tim pool
Well look, if you go to a bar and see a cover band, you're gonna hear a bunch of songs you know and like, live.
In person.
And it's fun, and it's like you're going to the actual show of the band who wrote it.
Like, if you wanna go see Muse perform, you go see Muse perform.
If you're hanging out with your friends and there's a bar and they have a cover band playing, it's gonna be fun, especially if they do requests.
Like, I've seen, like, you guys have probably seen live band karaoke.
rick dejesus
Oh yeah.
tim pool
But if, like, if my friends say, like, hey, we're gonna go out on Friday night, there's a show, and I'm like, by who?
And they're gonna name some, like, three random bands, I'll be like...
I have no disrespect to these bands.
I just don't know who they are.
rick dejesus
They're a fun night.
I think that's one thing that's getting lost a little bit.
We're at the concerts every night.
They're fun.
They're fun nights out.
And I think sometimes people lose, you know, everyone gets so drawn into, oh, what type of music is it?
Rock, country.
Look at a country concert.
There's 20,000 people at some of these shows, and then somehow rock got a bad name, but the rock concerts are fun, man.
We play them every night, and we look out there, and we're like, dude, people are missing out sometimes.
We think that the nights are so fun, people are missing out.
unidentified
We're like, man.
tim pool
This is the thing.
People need to go out and interact and meet people.
People used to go do stuff.
You know what's really, really crazy about music?
I grew up in an age of recordings.
We all did.
Recordings and then MP3s.
Yo, back in the day, I was watching, um, movies I watch, and I was watching That Thing You Do.
It's like, back in the day, listening to music was going out.
It was like, I want to hear music.
I can't hear it unless I go out somewhere.
Yeah.
Like you can't even like, so they have radio eventually and songs play on the radio.
And you're sitting there being like, man, I really want to hear that one song by that band,
but I guess I'll get lucky if they play it.
Before this, it was like, you liked music.
It was only on the weekends at night and someone had to play it for you.
Nowadays it's just ubiquitous.
ian crossland
It's like, great as an entertainer to go to, like as a musician, to go to a rock concert, because I think we learn primarily through mimicry, humans, you know, by hearing or seeing and then reproducing.
So like, I hear your song, it's cool, but when I see you perform it, now I know how you did it.
And I can mimic that.
tim pool
Yeah.
Dude, seeing you guys play live, there's no question.
It's a hundredfold better than any of our other recordings.
rick dejesus
We love what we do.
tim pool
We love what we do.
Recordings can't capture it, dude.
Like I was saying, you're throwing the jump stick in the air.
Like the whole performance and everything is just, man, indescribable.
rick dejesus
I know from playing with the band for as long as we play together, we have a connection up there.
Sometimes when I'm up there, I have to make it a point to start looking fans in the eyes because I'm having too much fun with my friends up there.
You know, I got to be like, all right, you've been rocking out with Trevor too much.
You got to back off.
Let's go and sing to some people, you know, because you just get up there and And we're really driven, too.
I think our mindset has been positive about being in a band.
We've met people in bands who their dreams have come true, and they're so negative, and they're so bummed out.
And I'm like, dude, what are you so negative and bummed out for?
You travel the country, you do your dream, and you're so bummed out.
And we've met that, and we promised ourselves we would never be like that.
So we make the best of every day, and we've done that for almost 20 years, make the best of every day.
I'm like, what's it look like?
We're gonna party the way we party, man.
Let's go do what we do.
And we try to find all the things we like to do, we make sure the performance that we put on, we're having fun up there on stage, and we never lose sight of the gratitude that we have for our job.
ian crossland
Do you guys get in a flow state when you're performing?
rick dejesus
Oh yeah.
tim pool
Oh yeah.
Let's grab one more here.
here, Aaron Richards says, there's a middle ground here.
Slacks and a nice golf shirt, or a half zip over a button.
The five suit rule by Steve Harvey gets 75 suit options.
Every young man needs to know this info, very resourceful.
Yeah, and I think the compromise is telling people to be clean and to wear pants and to
try and look presentable and nice, but I don't think there should be a set standard on like,
it is this or nothing.
I don't think a suit is the only way to be a professional and to look professional, because that implies that people who do business deals, CEOs, lawyers, basically, it implies that white collar is professional and nothing else.
Or it implies that Blue-collar professionals are not welcome in a space, only white-collar professionals.
I just don't like that idea.
There's a lot of people who do other jobs that are professional, and they do more important jobs.
I'm sorry, man.
I think most blue-collar jobs are more important than most white-collar jobs.
That's just it.
If I was on an island, And then, if I was gonna be stranded on an island, I'm on a boat.
And it's like, only one, there's two boats, and they're like, save me, no save me, it's a lawyer, and it's a mechanic.
I'll be like, mechanic has more real world practical skills to help me survive on this island than the lawyer does.
rick dejesus
The plumber is coming with me, let's go.
You know how to do electricity?
tim pool
And the best part is, the plumber is gonna be like, I got two morons who talk for a living.
Between me and the lawyer.
rick dejesus
Oh yeah.
tim pool
So I'll take the mechanic!
ian crossland
I just got a fire super chat from Phil That Remains.
Give the Adelitas way.
Boys, my best.
Been listening on the drive back.
tim pool
Right on.
ian crossland
Thanks, Phil.
rick dejesus
All right, everybody.
tim pool
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rick dejesus
Yes, please.
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ian crossland
I don't know if the album's been in the shot for the show, but you should pull that down and show people, because this is nuts.
Nasty looking.
Yeah, I'm gonna get one of these.
tim pool
Nasty?
Is that good or bad?
ian crossland
That's a good thing.
rick dejesus
Vinyl, baby.
unidentified
We'll be in Baltimore tomorrow if you guys want to venture to that fun place.
ian crossland
What time?
What time is the show tomorrow?
unidentified
We probably go on around 8 p.m.
at Rams Head Live.
tim pool
Right on.
rick dejesus
AW Vinyl, baby.
This whole thing was we were bringing back live music.
We were the superheroes bringing back live music.
We were the first band back on tour from COVID.
hannah claire brimelow
Really?
That's awesome.
ian crossland
Where do people get that at?
People get the vinyl?
rick dejesus
Yeah, you gotta come to a show.
Concerts.
tim pool
Right on.
Right on.
We got.
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, I'm here.
I'm a writer for Timcast dot com.
You should follow at Timcast News on X and Instagram.
Can I say what I'm doing in Miami when I'm there?
rick dejesus
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
OK, so Josie, the redhead libertarian, I are going to sit down with Michael Siefert, the public square CEO.
So I hope you guys are all coming to Miami because I think it'll be really fun.
It's right before IRL.
So something else to check out.
And I'm really excited to be on stage with her.
She's great.
If you want to follow me personally, I'm on Twitter at hcbrimlow and on Instagram at hanclair.b.
Thank you so much.
tim pool
And then after that, Alex Stein will be doing a 15 minute set, which is going to be really good.
ian crossland
What time you and Josie go live?
You know what time that starts?
hannah claire brimelow
I think it's like six, but I don't know.
You should just buy our tickets and come.
tim pool
Well, it's not going to be live.
hannah claire brimelow
No, we're not live, but we're on stage.
So we're exclusive to the event, which I think is pretty cool.
ian crossland
I just want to shout out Adelita Sway, Power, the newest single, or one of the newest singles, I don't know if they're all out, and I want people to check it out.
I was saying on this with you guys, it was awesome, and I hope we do it again.
We should do it again pretty soon.
rick dejesus
Let's do it again.
ian crossland
Get even more integrated next time.
rick dejesus
Let's just lock ourselves in the studio, man.
ian crossland
Holler back at you, Ricky.
unidentified
Let's go.
ian crossland
Love it.
Every minute, baby.
Check it out, Power.
Where do people get it?
Is it on iTunes?
rick dejesus
Everywhere.
ian crossland
Check it out, Power.
rick dejesus
iTunes, Spotify, follow it everywhere.
Power is doing great, man.
ian crossland
Visceral.
I like it.
Fun.
Alright, Carter.
carter banks
I enjoy the song, too.
I helped track some of Ian's harmonies.
And once again, thank you guys for coming down.
I still remember, Rick, when you sang Happy Birthday to a fan at Blue Ridge Rockfest last year.
I thought that was particularly cool.
So yeah, follow out latest way.
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Go to TrashHouse.com and get Bright Eyes.
Some of our other songs are coming out.
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tim pool
Right on!
Alright everybody, we will see you all over at TimCast.com in about a minute or so.
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