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Timcast IRL - Democrats File To REMOVE Trump From CO BALLOT As NEW Charges Loom w/Terrence Williams
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tim pool
I'm David Pakman.
It's state number four.
It's likely going to continue.
It's already failed in some states.
I don't think there's going to be a tremendous amount of success for this strategy, but it seems to be what they'll keep trying to do, so we'll see how that one plays out.
In the meantime, we've got an announcement on Hunter Biden's indictment.
It should be coming at the end of September.
Like it matters?
We'll see how that one plays out.
It's kind of obvious that most of this is a foregone conclusion.
We know they're going to keep bringing new charges and new attacks, new lawsuits against Donald Trump, and they're going to keep giving a slap on the wrist to Democrats.
We've got new information.
Denver is going to be paying out millions of dollars to far-left extremists who are rioting.
Yup.
And of course, more J6ers are being criminally charged.
We'll talk about that too.
And the big story tonight, of course, I'm sure everybody already checked it out.
Tucker Carlson's interview with Larry Sinclair.
I'm sure we have a lot to say about that, but I don't know.
Tabloid stuff.
So, uh, let's, uh, we'll just jump into it.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more as well as pancakes is Terrence Williams.
terrence kentrell williams
Thank you for having me on, man.
tim pool
Who are you?
terrence kentrell williams
What do you do?
So, well first of all, I'm a Trump supporter and I stand with President Donald J. Trump.
And this shit that's happening to him right now is disgraceful.
But, uh, I'm a comedian and I started making videos on social media back in 2016.
I blew up on Facebook and this is before, uh, Trump was even the nominee.
I blew up on Facebook.
I was, uh, talking about, I was addressing some of, some of my friends who were talking about, we should move back to Africa.
And I said, Oh hell no.
Oh, oh, oh, hell no!
I ain't never been there and I don't plan on going there.
So I told them, hell no, I'm not moving to Africa.
I love America.
I said, y'all take y'all black asses over there.
I'm staying right here in America with these white folks.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I love my freedom over here.
And that video went super viral and I was eating fried chicken in the video.
It wasn't set up because I was on my lunch break.
It was a live video.
It was my first video and I was finishing my lunch before I went back to work and I had some fried chicken with some macaroni and cheese on the side with some mashed potatoes with some country gravy.
My God!
I remember that day.
But people were so pissed off.
Why is this black man eating chicken?
Oh, Terrence, this is stereotypical for a black man to be doing this.
These white folks is laughing at us.
I'm like, shut the hell up.
White people eat more chicken than black people.
Hell, Tim!
tim pool
I had fried chicken today.
terrence kentrell williams
Tim got a bunch of chicken.
You got all the chickens here.
I'm moving in with Tim.
Tim got all the chickens.
But that video went super viral.
The video had a lot of sarcasm in it and people were offended.
But the video was about me loving this country and not wanting to leave.
And I didn't understand why people wanted to leave America when I saw Millions of people moving here.
So I just went super viral and then people asked me, well, who are you going to vote for in 2016?
And I said, this is before Trump was even a nominee.
I said, Donald Trump, Donald J. Trump.
And I get all these comments.
Oh, you're 15 minutes of fame is up.
Oh, it's over with.
Oh, you just started.
Oh, you just ended your career before it even started.
And then I just doubled down and people were like, Terrence, you kicked out the black community.
And from there, I got pissed off and I just started making videos every day.
What the hell you mean I'm kicked out the black community and just going at it and standing up for the things that I believe in.
And I just didn't understand, you know, and then, you know, I started doing stand up comedy and now I'm a pancake man.
I got a pancake company called Cousin T's that I created after.
Yeah, they're really good.
Really good gourmet.
I created this after they counseled our sweet dear Aunt Jemima.
They took her off the shelf.
They took away Uncle Ben.
And what confused me was this.
People say black people need more representation.
And then they go and take black faces off of food products.
So that didn't make any sense to me.
And I love pancakes.
I was like, man, I'm not eating that.
I'm not eating that bull crap that they have put out.
They removed her face.
That was my favorite brand.
So I created, so I created Cousin T's.
And now I'm in like, I'm in about 38 grocery stores in Florida.
I'm in the Sedano's supermarket.
So, and, and this bread, I came out with Cousin T's back in, back in 2021 of, of, uh, of October.
So it's been pretty tough getting into the grocery stores, but Sadano's supermarket gave me an opportunity.
A lot of stores don't want to carry me because they Google me and they see me in a MAGA hat.
They see me talking crap, offending people and making jokes and they just don't want it because they don't want to get counseled, you know?
So, but it's been a blessing and these pancakes are so damn good.
tim pool
We definitely got to talk about this, because we got a story.
Bill Gates is buying a bunch of Bud Light stock.
So we'll talk about the parallel economy and what you're doing.
And just one last thought.
Man, pulling Aunt Jemima was really offensive to me.
But we'll get into all that.
I tried some of your pancakes.
They're really good, really good.
So thanks for joining us.
Should be a lot of fun.
terrence kentrell williams
Thank you.
tim pool
We got Brett Dasovic hanging out.
brett dasovic
What's going on?
I am not moving to Africa either.
So I'm staying here.
Yes.
My name is Brett Dasovic.
I am the host of Pop Culture Crisis, Monday through Friday at 3 p.m.
Eastern Standard Time, right here on YouTube.
ian crossland
Hi everyone, Ian Croson here.
Happy to be here.
IanCroson.net.
Actually, I think the website's down, so just follow me on X. But let's get started.
unidentified
You having a matrix attack, Ian?
ian crossland
Maybe, yeah.
I'm not sure what happened.
unidentified
What's up, guys?
I'm filling in for Serge again.
Pressing the buttons over here.
My name is Kellen.
Ready to go when you are, Tim.
tim pool
Let's jump into this first story.
They're coming for Trump!
DC Watchdog Group brings suit on behalf of Colorado voters to remove Trump from 2024 ballot using the 14th Amendment.
That's the gist of the story.
Here we go again.
And I don't know if it's the citizens for responsibility networks in Washington crew
claims that Trump has disqualified himself for violating section three of the 14th Amendment.
We knew that they were trial ballooning this when they went after a bunch of politicians
over January 6.
One guy, Coey Griffin, out of New Mexico, I think it was actually got removed over it.
I don't know if they succeed, but I do know they're not going to stop trying to get him
removed and they need to remove him from only one state.
And it doesn't even need to be all.
It has to be is I don't know how many states are not winner take all.
There's a few—like, Nebraska's kind of weird.
But if they remove him from any one state, particularly a swing state, that's it.
He's gonna have a very hard time winning.
Especially, he needs to win three.
He doesn't need that many votes.
It was 42,000 votes he lost by in 2020, but this is their strategy.
They can't win.
Right now, we are seeing them go after all of these January Sixers, many of whom were non-violent.
They're trying to generate as much anti-Trump sentiment.
We've got news stories about potential mask mandates coming back.
They are pulling out all the stops and it is not even 2024.
Charlie Kirk tweeting earlier that new criminal charges may be about to drop from Jack Smith pertaining to Donald Trump and his actions pertaining to voter machines.
You've got a warning already from Jack Smith that Trump's statements are tampering with the jury pool.
And it's 2023.
We got a whole year in front of us, and the shenanigans have only just begun.
ian crossland
I gotta say, though, I... I just don't... I'm kind of resigned to accept that Trump's not gonna be president, and it doesn't matter anyway, because the president ain't gonna fix this.
It's gonna be the private sector.
The president can stand by and say no, but cannot make anything happen.
The public is going to make a change.
If we're really going to have some sort of psychological revolution in this country, it's not going to happen from the top.
But the top will be involved.
But I don't think placing faith in the next guy to win the race is like the way that we're going to save our nation.
It never really was.
tim pool
I partially agree with what you're saying.
It is a cultural shift that needs to happen, and that is happening with the parallel economy that's being built, with Public Square, as successful as they've been, with, as we've already mentioned, Bud Light, Target, we mention them every single day, and now Cousin T's Pancake Mix, challenging these woke corporations.
The parallel economy is the cultural shift we need to win, but in the short term, You know, the long-term thing is going to be winning the culture war.
The short-term thing is, yeah, we're probably going to need to criminally charge criminals and have some accountability.
The idea that, you know, I'll put it this way, Trump winning is a key, is a strategic position.
In winning this ongoing cultural Cold Civil War, whatever you want to call it.
ian crossland
It would be great for a lot of people, but the metaphor I'm feeling is like you're going to a horse race and Trump's your horse, for instance.
And you're like, that guy, he's going to win.
I got everything.
We need this horse to win.
But like, they own the arena where the horse is running.
They set all the rules in real time.
They can have new runners come onto the race at any moment.
They can actually tell your horse to stop running and go sit down during the race.
So how do you expect that horse to win?
terrence kentrell williams
Well, first of all, I want to get something out of the way.
January 6th, I was in Washington, D.C.
I was there at the rally.
Now, I did not go to the Capitol, so FBI don't come knocking on my damn door.
I did not go to the Capitol.
But I was there, and Trump had nothing to do with people busting out windows or whatever was going on at that Capitol.
He did not tell people to riot.
Trump is all about peace.
He's all about peace and I was there so them going after him for January 6th is just straight up bogus so I just want to get that out the way because I was there.
Now you are right so we do need a Really, listen, will things change?
Probably not.
But we still need Trump in office.
We need him in office.
And yes, the Democrats and the damn deep state is running this and running that.
But we can't just sit back and say, well, if Trump wins, it doesn't really matter.
Like, that's not the attitude to have.
tim pool
What are you hoping for with a Trump victory?
Like, if Trump wins, what do you see there?
terrence kentrell williams
Well, first of all, I want Trump to continue to do what he was doing.
You know, he was making his country great again.
He had a lot of stuff in store for America.
But also, I want Trump, which a lot of people don't want him to do.
Oh, Trump, you shouldn't go after them.
That whole retribution thing is not good.
Trump should go after these criminals too.
He should go after these people who are causing all of this chaos in America.
That's what he needs to do.
And if he doesn't win, who's going to go after them?
unidentified
Vivek.
tim pool
I agree.
brett dasovic
We are in the, um, I love the politicians are just saying stuff that they know they can't deliver on part of the, of the election cycle where, and it is as much as I do like Vivek, he's talking about, he's like, we need to ban social media until they turn 18.
I'm like, that's unenforceable.
You're not going to be able to do that, and that's the name of the game right now, is telling you that they're going to deliver on all of these promises that we know, deep down, maybe you get like, what, they make ten campaign promises, you get one for ten?
tim pool
Yeah, but in this circumstance, let's say Trump says he's going to do all this, he's going to fire people, he's going to charge his people.
He was talking to Glenn Beck.
Glenn Beck said, do you go after these people?
And he's like, well, you have no choice, based on what they've been doing.
It's really, really simple.
If Donald Trump gets elected and does not do it, then he will go to prison for the rest of his life.
His supporters will go to prison.
They'll start targeting more journalists and lawyers, which they're already doing.
So it really is just pick your poison.
It goes one way or the other.
There's no middle and there's no off-ramp.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
Either if Trump gets elected, and he goes after these people, so it's arresting people, you're going to see arrests.
He doesn't, then they continue what they're already doing in arresting Trump supporters, his lawyers, and they don't stop there.
I mean, trying to take Trump's name off the ballot is one of the most extreme things we have ever seen in this country.
The first time I believe it's ever been attempted to be used, and now they're on attempt number four, Right.
terrence kentrell williams
Extreme.
They silenced the president of the United States of America.
That's even worse.
When they took him off of Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, they silenced a sitting president, a sitting president.
So all the stuff that they're doing now, I am not surprised, but we have to play dirty.
We have to play the same games that the Democrats are playing.
I'm sick of these weak ass Republicans sitting back talking about, Oh, well, well, we are above that Bush.
brett dasovic
We're going to investigate a bunch of stuff and have nothing come out of any of it.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, bullcrap.
Above my ass.
We have to play dirty.
Where's Kevin McCarthy at?
What is Kevin McCarthy doing?
If people were going after Joe Biden and trying to arrest him and Nancy Pelosi, if she was still the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi would be knocking doors down right now.
She would not be allowing Republicans to go after Joe Biden.
She would be punching back.
Why are we not doing the same?
brett dasovic
They're way more ruthless and with access to the media they come out looking better than Republicans every single time.
tim pool
But I don't think that really matters at this point.
I think more so the issue is...
Everybody knows that it's a facade, but everyone's just kind of going along with it.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
It's starting to break, though.
Like I was mentioning, I mentioned these four examples, two positive, two negative, right?
Sound of Freedom in Richmond, north of Richmond, are huge net positives and cultural victories.
And then you have Bud Light and Target as two examples of, basically, our side of things does not, it's not left or right, you know, it's constitutional republic, which they call right or whatever.
But it could be, you could have more liberal opinions, We're winning in terms of freedom, liberty, challenging the woke cult and their narrative control.
They're failing.
Look at the ADL and the SPLC and the narrative that's come out as of recently.
Elon Musk challenges the ADL.
Now, ban ADL starts trending on Twitter, X. And then, what is it, the executive director guy or whatever says that they're a bunch of white supremacists?
It doesn't work anymore, dude!
You're just spitting into the wind at this point.
Nobody cares what you have to say.
It doesn't work.
We're winning that.
So let them try.
Their institutional control is failing.
This is good news.
That's why I'm like, you gotta be careful, because these videos of J6ers getting arrested I think is intending to provoke a response.
And all you gotta do right now, it's really simple.
You gotta buy pancakes, right?
But I'm not even kidding, right?
Supporting the parallel economy, make money for yourself, support companies that believe in your values, get the word out to vote, and vote in large numbers.
This is why they're trying to pull Trump's name from the ballot, because they can't win in any standard circumstance.
brett dasovic
Adrian Norman's really good about this.
A lot of his posts and the stuff he does with his journalism is he talks a lot about how people push back on the cultural issues online.
He's like, yeah, but are you going out to vote?
Are you going out?
Are you actually doing something?
There's an old, um, there's a Sage Francis song from like 2001.
He was super anti-war.
And he's basically talking about how it's like, uh, they complained about the global war, but can't overthrow the local Joker that they voted for.
Everyone wants to complain.
Nobody wants to actually go to the ballot box and do something about it.
tim pool
Man, that, that, that bums me out.
My experience with most people in my life.
When I was younger, I wanted to open... I knew these guys had a little miniature warehouse with a skate ramp in it.
And they were like, we all pitch in a hundred bucks and it covers the rent.
And, you know, we can't afford it on our own, but together.
And I was like, dude, we should do this.
I go to my friends and everyone said the same thing.
You build it and then I'll think about it.
And I was like, dude, unless we stand up together right now and definitively state we will do this thing, it will never happen.
But that was the attitude of everyone I knew.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's similar.
I just use it as an example of how we see most things for a long time.
You'd say, you've got to get out, go knock on doors, ask someone else will do it.
Let me know when you do it.
If I see success, I'll consider it.
Nah, we ain't doing that no more.
Scott Pressler is out there knocking on doors and doing the hard work.
We here at Timcast IRL, Maybe we could do more, you can make that argument, but I do a morning show and a night show, 16 hours every day, talking about trying to build influence in telling people to be the change you want to see in the world.
For everyone else, it's simple.
Spend time sending out mailers, volunteer, do whatever you have to do, register people to vote, and then we win.
terrence kentrell williams
Well, what do you say when people say, well, they're gonna, our vote's not gonna count?
You got people saying that?
tim pool
Trump lost by 42,000 votes.
So when they come out and they're like, there's no way Joe Biden got 81 million votes, I'm like, dude, yeah, he got 81 million votes because New York and Los Angeles voted in huge numbers because they were locked in their houses.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
But there were three key swing states where between them, Donald Trump only needed 42,000 votes.
That's it.
They don't have the same lockdowns anymore.
People are pissed off at Joe Biden.
His approval rating's in the gutter.
If Trump supporters quadruple their efforts, not even, if Trump supporters just stick to their efforts, Joe Biden's vote count is gonna go down.
terrence kentrell williams
Exactly.
tim pool
You double your efforts, Trump's gonna win by a healthy amount.
brett dasovic
Do you think that the reason why we're starting to see all the articles come out again about mask mandates is that they're looking to reinstate any type of lockdowns before the election?
terrence kentrell williams
Yes, they're looking to steal the election.
They're looking at cheating.
tim pool
Removing Trump from the ballot is cheating.
terrence kentrell williams
They're going to use the mail-in ballots to cheat, but it's not going to work this time because a lot of Americans are not going to stay in their homes.
They're not going to put on those masks.
And I'm talking about people on both sides are not going to do that.
So that's why they want to put President Trump in prison.
That's why they want to lock him up because they can't use COVID to win this time.
It's not going to work.
Nobody's falling for that.
brett dasovic
They're already doing it with like, um, when it was in 2019, it was Tom Hanks was the first celebrity to get COVID.
And they're like, Oh my God, if a celebrity can get COVID, then I suppose I can.
They're already doing this again where they're like, because I, I cover pop culture and news like that.
So I'm seeing all these articles like celebrity gets this, celebrity gets this.
So they're already saying like, uh, Whoopi Goldberg gets COVID for the third time.
And everybody's shocked, but it's because they're already starting to roll out the article propaganda when they start trying to reinstate these things.
tim pool
Let's do a little tip for Tav.
We'll jump to the other side now.
We have this from the Post Millennial.
Special Counsel David Weiss expected to deliver Hunter Biden indictment by September 29th.
Weiss said Hunter Biden faces firearm related charges as well as two counts of tax fraud.
Now I wonder about these stories because of course we want accountability for corrupt individuals.
We know that Joe Biden was involved.
This could be a first step that leads to an impeachment of Joe Biden.
But I kind of feel like They are going to find a way to give this dude a slap on the wrist.
Right?
So you got a couple stories.
One, right now you got January Sixers being given these harsh penalties, years in prison, decades in prison.
Enrique Tarrio wasn't even there.
And then you get stories like this.
Denver to pay $4.7 million to settle claims that targeted George Floyd protesters.
So, it's absolutely fascinating.
terrence kentrell williams
It's insane.
tim pool
Yeah, the left goes out and riots across the country, 30 plus dead, and multiple jurisdictions are paying them.
I think the total so far was like $100 million.
So we may be seeing the charges of Hunter Biden.
But as you were just mentioning, yeah, where's Kevin McCarthy?
Where are the Republicans?
terrence kentrell williams
Where is he at?
brett dasovic
They never do anything.
It is the most frustrating part of it, right?
When you pay that close attention and you're wondering, why is it that it seems like they're constantly like Democrats, the left, they They make territory.
They get good territory all the time.
They're always able to do that.
But for some reason, the Republicans never do it because the Republicans are just Democrats going the speed limit, if not slower, because they don't actually want to make any changes.
terrence kentrell williams
And the Republican Party is divided.
If you look at the Democrats, even, listen, some of them probably don't like Joe Biden, but they, but you will never know.
They're not going to speak out against Joe.
They're all going to act like they're on the same page.
You know, Joe Biden's a good president.
Now here you got the Republicans divided.
You got this, you got half of them attacking Trump, half of them saying, let's stand behind Trump, when we need all of them to be standing behind.
And even when Trump was the president, The Republican Party was divided, you know?
brett dasovic
Was there numbers on the amount... I think we covered this at some point, right?
There was numbers on the amount of people that said if they had known about the Hunter Biden laptop scandal before the election... It was like 7% to 8%?
7% to 8%.
I was talking to some recently.
They think that the Republicans or them going after Hunter Biden is a losing I don't completely disagree.
I think that going after Hunter Biden is not necessarily an election issue.
enough to make it worth it, other than if you're actually acting on principle and doing
it because you actually want to prosecute somebody that's committing a crime.
tim pool
I don't completely disagree.
I think that going after Hunter Biden is not necessarily an election issue.
It's an accountability issue, but it does lead to the business dealings of Joe Biden,
who is now, it's being reported, using what aliases to communicate with Hunter to give
him privy to information because he was using Hunter as a proxy to conduct a business while
as VP.
as VP.
And this is part of the news that's coming out, which could be the Hunter Biden indictments could be the lead up to the impeachment of Joe Biden.
It'll give them more authority.
We'll see what happens.
I really don't want to give the Republicans the benefit of the doubt.
I don't believe they'll do things.
Part of me says maybe they're gonna slow roll it until the election year.
You'd rather have an October surprise than a year early October announcement?
That's not a surprise for anybody.
Give them a year in advance to deal with.
And that's an eternity in an election.
You want to come out with the damaging information right as early voting starts.
Then people don't vote and have an impact.
So maybe that's when they try and do it.
I don't know.
brett dasovic
Will it even matter anyways because the media will just suppress it?
tim pool
But we are the media, right?
And so, looking at CNN's ratings in the trash can, and now Fox News' ratings are in the trash can, it's actually going to be the likes of Joe Rogan, Russell Brand, Patrick David, Tim Castile, Jimmy Dore.
More and more people are consuming information through these platforms, which is exactly why, for instance, Bud Light sees a massive derailing of their stock value.
Look, the younger generation grew up consuming media in this way.
I don't think any show ever reaches the level of Tucker Carlson.
Back, you know, 10-20 years ago, you had very few channels, so everybody watched very similar things.
There's pros and there's cons to that.
The benefit is that Most people, or I should say that there is a benefit in people being on the same page in terms of facts, if the facts being given out are correct.
But then you end up with intelligence agency influence and lies, and then everyone believes lies.
The internet allows people to challenge the machine, fact check, prove it, provide evidence, check sources.
Now, there's a net negative in that sense that You know, like a show like this, like Tucker Carlson was getting three to five million every night.
I don't think anyone ever gets that big ever again, right?
We get like a tenth of that.
And to be fair, the majority of those viewers are older because they were used to watching these older networks.
But now that you have a diversified group of citizens getting, you know, different, like the correct information, but from different perspectives, like all the podcasts I mentioned, It's hard to break that.
It's hard to lie to a group of people that have all these different sources.
Because you can't mockingbird this.
It's easy when you've got four networks, and the CIA or the FBI or whatever, they say, look, for national security reasons, don't report this story.
And they all agree.
When it came to the NSA files, this was the Snowden stuff.
You have, uh, I don't know, I think the, uh, there's a bunch of different whistleblower examples.
And you have, um, what movie was it?
I think the Julian Assange one.
These news outlets are like, what do we do with these releases?
We have to be careful.
Let's ask the U.S.
government about it.
That don't matter anymore.
Because now if intelligence agencies want to try and pull the mockingbird, good luck reaching out to 10,000 podcasts You can't do it.
ian crossland
What they'll do, the next generation of Mockingbird is they'll deepfake someone that's respected, like Patrick Bet-David.
They'll deepfake him saying something that isn't true.
So it's like a reverse Mockingbird.
Instead of trying to give you the false information, they're going to trick you into believing it.
tim pool
They'll try and- And then it'll also defame- They can't do that.
unidentified
Bet-David.
tim pool
They can try and defame someone like, you know, any one of these podcast hosts.
But Patrick Bet-David's audience trusts him.
They know him.
He'll come out and say, that's not true, guys.
And people are going to believe him.
They could try to create a fake channel where they come out with a prop personality, but they're not going to get enough reach.
What they could do is they can go to the parent platform.
Let's say there's a large social network called...
Your TV.
And on your TV, they create rules that defy logic, that go against doctors and medical science, but adhere to political instructions, and then they ban anyone who goes against it.
That's the best they can do.
The only problem is, the market will solve for this.
Then you're gonna end up with, I don't know, there'll be some alternative called like Fumble or something.
That will actually, shout out to Rumble.
Rumble emerges and then outright says, not only are you allowed your free speech, but we will create an ad network to support you.
And they're getting there.
Here's, I'll give you guys some interesting information.
The live show is here on YouTube.
But we put all our clips on everything on Rumble as if it's any other platform.
And we get, on my morning show, I get like 30,000 views on average.
I get about 180-200 depending on the video on YouTube.
And I'm getting about 30,000 on Rumble.
Timcast IRL clips actually are rivaled on Rumble.
This is the fascinating thing.
We might put up a clip on YouTube from this show that gets 200,000.
Every so often we'll have a big clip like that.
And then periodically we'll get 50 to maybe 90.
On Rumble we get 50 to 100,000 views on these clips.
Rumble is stripping away market value from YouTube and YouTube too stupid to realize it.
unidentified
Yeah, they are.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, so I have a new podcast.
I was called the Terrence K Williams podcast.
It took me a long time to come up with that name.
But now, this is embarrassing, but the podcast is new and the average episode gets 5,000 views on YouTube.
I posted an episode with me and Dean Cain on Rumble, it got 100,000 views.
I posted an episode with me and Dean Cain on Rumble.
It got 100,000 views.
I'm like, what in the world?
brett dasovic
Superman.
tim pool
First, Rumble's audience are many of the refugees from these platforms.
So you will find people who are more into politics.
There's going to be a huge market share, a huge advantage there.
But with Rumble getting into sports... Yo, I was watching a skate video.
Skateboarding.
Listen to this.
Because most people are like, I don't care about skateboarding.
No, no, no.
Pro skateboarders in a private skate park, to all of their 16, 17-year-old viewers, Rumble sports on the wall.
And I'm like, that's it.
Rumble sports sounds good. Yep, main Rumble sports mainstream branding in
mainstream pop culture that kids are gonna watch and when they go to Rumble to
watch their sports and video games they got Terrence Williams right there.
brett dasovic
You know what Trump does need to do though? If we're talking mainstream he
needs to just like wine and dine the ladies from The View.
Because he really does struggle with, you know, if we're talking like suburban women, he's not the most liked person.
He needs to just wine and dine the ladies from The View and really get them to turn around on him.
tim pool
He's been on The View.
ian crossland
Do you think he could?
tim pool
Do you remember when he was on The View and he was asked to run for president?
I think Roseanne asked him.
It was Roseanne and Trump.
brett dasovic
There's stuff going back to the 90s of Oprah asking him when he was going to run for president.
terrence kentrell williams
But I have to fact check you.
The women on The View, those ladies, they are not suburban women.
Those are dumb women.
unidentified
Yeah, but they speak to suburban women.
brett dasovic
Their audience is suburban women at home.
tim pool
Oh, the other day when Joy Behar was like, it's back!
ian crossland
I was like, ugh.
terrence kentrell williams
So cringe.
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
But Whoopi won't be here!
They're in their 27th season, which is insane.
But why are they not adhering to the writers and actor strike?
terrence kentrell williams
But are people really watching The View?
tim pool
I don't even know what they're talking about.
terrence kentrell williams
Are women, are people really watching The View?
brett dasovic
Yes, they affect, yes they do.
I absolutely believe that they affect the suburban female voting demographics big time.
Because they're not.
The stats say that men watch YouTube more than women, right?
If I remember correctly.
So if a woman is watching terrestrial television, she's going to be watching something.
She's cleaning during the day.
She's getting her kids lunches ready.
She's watching The View and she's seeing a bunch of spewed, you know, Deep state propaganda being, you know, fed back to her, and that's the voting block that's going to end up costing you election.
If you can't swing at least some of the female demographic, I don't think that there's much... Their ratings are way down.
tim pool
Way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way down.
But they're still getting between like 1.8 to 2 million viewers.
brett dasovic
But it just, it cycles through.
So one lady watches it, and she goes to her knitting group of women, and they talk about what she talked about in the episode that day, and it...
Permeates more naturally, right?
It's not that they all watch it They also when you see that stuff you don't talk about like they get clips clips get posted on social media There's more than just the live numbers that affect how so far someone's reaches on a lot of these platforms so Yeah, I just don't think there's nothing that Trump can do to satisfy those women.
Not at all.
terrence kentrell williams
There's nothing.
And if Trump went on their show, the whole show would be a gotcha show.
tim pool
But you need to consider too, it's not even necessarily about Trump convincing them to vote for him, it's about the Republicans in general convincing Democrats not to support Joe Biden.
terrence kentrell williams
Right.
tim pool
So, and it's funny because the Democrats are gonna be like, oh, Tim Pool's saying people should not vote.
I'm like, no, I'm saying vote for somebody else.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, Joe Biden's not gonna give you anything.
He's just gonna keep doing garbled nonsense.
War in Europe?
You want World War III?
Vote for Joe Biden.
You want a crippled economy?
Vote for Joe Biden.
I wouldn't even say this.
I'm not going to tell you right now to vote for Trump.
I'm going to say don't vote for Biden.
If you want social justice, then you vote for Cornel West.
He's your leftist progressive guy.
You want the establishment to get a stake through its vampiric heart?
You vote for Donald Trump.
And that's not even a guarantee it actually happens.
But it's the best shot you've got.
ian crossland
Do you think Vivek is just too young, too new to actually have a chance at winning the presidency?
tim pool
Yes.
Winning the presidency is more than just playing the game properly.
The reality to Vivek is that he would need to make Every perfect step, which he is doing, with very few mistakes, he would need to make every move perfectly and hit every die roll perfectly.
ian crossland
Yeah, he would need the deep state to prop him up.
That's what Obama had.
That's why he went from obscurity to fame so fast.
tim pool
I mean, sure, that would help.
I'm not saying that.
I'm saying there are certain things you can do in your campaign that you can do right or wrong. He needs to roll like three 20s in a row.
Yes. That's tough. Because Trump has the base. Trump has a great track record with the economy and
with a lot of issues that's... He's so famous. Well he's super famous but you look at foreign
policy, Abraham Accords, you know...
You look at the attempts at peace deals outside of that.
You look at timeline for withdrawal from Afghanistan, which Joe Biden screwed up.
But I mean, mostly for Americans, gas prices were low.
The economy was great.
Then COVID hit.
It's hard to blame him just for that, because under Biden, you also had COVID.
The COVID went from Trump and through Biden.
So they both get hit on that point.
Trump could have done things a lot better, but Trump's got a track record people like.
Like you were saying, you want to see Trump keep doing these things.
Getting rid of the TPP, one of the first things he did.
Bolstering U.S.
manufacturing, bringing auto manufacturing back to the Rust Belt.
The attempts to secure our border, far from perfect, but heavy efforts being made.
People like these things.
The best numbers of our lives.
Jim Cramer said that.
Jim Cramer was always wrong with celebrating how great the economy was.
On that alone, I think Donald Trump is beating out Vivek.
Vivek has to get lucky and there's a lot that would have to happen for him to actually win.
So you can be the best guy for the job and I think Vivek in many ways is,
but because of the problems we face in terms of corruption, Vivek may not be,
he may not be the right person.
Like, he's a...
He speaks well, he plays politics very well, he's got great policy ideas, he fleshes them out, he addresses a lot of issues we want to see addressed.
But there's that fire that I don't know that he actually has, that Trump does have, because Trump was personally slighted.
You know what I mean?
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, I don't see people rallying behind Vivek.
tim pool
It's harder.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, and his name is kind of hard to pronounce, too, in the beginning.
tim pool
Everybody gets his name wrong.
That's a challenge for him.
terrence kentrell williams
That's not presidential.
It's just not.
ian crossland
It should change his name to, like, Raw Lightning.
terrence kentrell williams
Yes.
So what do y'all think about Ron DeSantis?
If Trump is not the nominee, do you think he can beat Joe Biden?
tim pool
Yes, he could beat Joe Biden.
terrence kentrell williams
Do you think he has a better chance of beating Joe Biden?
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
Then who?
terrence kentrell williams
Then Trump.
President Trump.
ian crossland
Not if it was on the board, but I feel like there's so much back-behind-the-scenes crap against Trump that it's like...
tim pool
And this one really bums me out because a year ago I've said, hands down, no question.
But then we got to watch how DeSantis ran his campaign.
And now I'm just like, no.
I think DeSantis could beat Biden because he's less unlikable.
He's just kind of there.
But Biden is unlikable.
His age is a problem.
You've got a quarter of Democrats saying they can't vote for him, he's too old.
And then you get Ron DeSantis, who would just be there.
And I think that should be enough.
He would effectively be Biden to Biden, right?
Joe Biden was the corporeal form Democrats asked for.
Nobody really wanted to vote for Biden.
They just wanted to vote against Trump.
Well, you're gonna get a lot of people who would support DeSantis, a lot of people begrudgingly would support DeSantis, and a lot of people would just blindly be like, eh, he's better than Biden.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
Donald Trump, however, would rally people.
terrence kentrell williams
He would.
tim pool
So I think DeSantis could have been it.
If DeSantis ran the campaign that Vivek is running, he would be ahead of Vivek right now.
ian crossland
Do you think that, because I saw Chuck Todd interview Vivek, I think Vivek's been on, he's been on some of like the leftist mass media, legacy media stuff.
Is it because they're attempting to split the party in half for the voters so that the Democrats win?
tim pool
Say that one more time.
ian crossland
Why would they prop Vivek up and just go, like, Chuck Todd really seems to like him and want him on his show and interview him?
Like, are they just trying to create a division in the Republican Party so there's going to be a nominee?
terrence kentrell williams
I mean, Ron DeSantis is already doing that.
unidentified
Right.
terrence kentrell williams
So they don't need to use Vivek for it.
See his name, I can't even pronounce his damn name.
tim pool
But Vivek is more likely I told this to him, I was like, I don't think you're gonna win, and I think you know you're not gonna win.
unidentified
Right?
tim pool
Like, no one as smart as that guy joins this race being like, I can beat Trump.
No you can't!
You cannot defeat Donald Trump in this primary.
So Vivek is playing it masterfully.
He's supporting Trump while running against him.
It's brilliant!
terrence kentrell williams
I would love to see him in Trump's cabinet.
I would love to see him in his cabinet.
brett dasovic
He said he didn't want to be vice president though, right?
ian crossland
He told me that.
tim pool
Yeah, but he has to say that.
terrence kentrell williams
He has to say that because he's running for president.
tim pool
But hey, Trump-Ramaswamy would be a powerful ticket.
terrence kentrell williams
That really would be.
tim pool
Because Vivek is playing the game perfectly, but he's not in a presidential position.
ian crossland
And he's the guy that you don't want, if I'm speaking from the deep state's perspective, who's like afraid they're going to lose their jobs, you don't want Vivek to become the president because he'll fire you.
He will terminate your job.
So those people are like, yo, we don't, if he's the VP, you will make sure that president stays in power because you do not want Vivek stepping in, ending a bunch of the corruption.
tim pool
I'm just imagining it, and I just know it's never going to play like this, but you know, Trump gets elected, Vivek is the VP, and then, you know, they walk into the Oval Office, they sit down, Trump looks up and he goes, Do it.
And then Vivek stands up, buttons his jacket, walks out of the hall, and then makes the phone call, and then they're all fired.
unidentified
That's the thing.
ian crossland
If Vivek did serve as vice president, I think it could be a lot more of a front-facing public role than Pence did.
Pence was like behind-the-scenes quiet meek.
tim pool
Yeah, exactly.
ian crossland
And Vivek's a loud guy.
Like, he loves to talk in front of crowds and stuff, and he can rally the people.
He can explain complicated things technically to the American people.
He would serve as an excellent... Translator for Trump's weird... Like, Trump's like, I think Trump did say that.
He didn't explain the Chinese are running our fentanyl through the southern border.
I thought it was a xenophobic move at first. I thought he hated the Central Americans.
I thought he was like, we don't want those people here. It was the drugs. It's the drug cartels
running human trafficking. If that had been the message early on, I don't think he would have
terrence kentrell williams
pissed off all those people. I think Trump did say that. He said, they're bringing drugs into
brett dasovic
our country. But it doesn't matter because the media doesn't report on it and they clip it all
tim pool
Yeah, but I don't care about the media anymore.
ian crossland
But that's what you do is you find it.
tim pool
CNN is getting, like, they're struggling to reach six-figure audiences.
brett dasovic
But back then it mattered.
tim pool
Oh, no, for sure.
But today it's now it's just like, let the media not report it.
I don't care anymore.
We put out one clip.
On this channel, and it beats CNN's entire primetime ratings.
In the key demo, CNN's getting like 40K.
They are not influential with young people anymore.
ian crossland
It's just done.
The way that media has changed the definition into what we're doing right now is we are the media.
It's like frogs in a pot.
Like, I didn't realize, I could sense in 2006 that it was happening, and I would say we are the media now just to manifest it and make it happen sooner.
But like, to be in it for 15 years, I didn't, it's hard to see the change.
unidentified
But look, look.
ian crossland
But we are it.
tim pool
This is it.
It's actually really, really simple to understand how these things happen.
When I'm younger, I'm looking at CNN, Fox News, ABC, and I'm looking at all these, they're getting millions of views, and I'm like, wow, that's crazy.
And then me and all my friends are hanging out doing our thing.
That thing that we are doing is it.
When we're older and these anchors have all retired, we didn't change what we did.
We kept doing the same thing.
So you just inherit it because you're doing it.
It wasn't that one day there was like a switch was flicked.
No, it's just younger people, even today right now with like TikTok and other social media platforms, short form.
It's why YouTube is rolling out shorts.
We, like millennials, watch shows like this.
Younger people are consuming shorter clips.
Which is why they're investing in influencers.
Exactly.
I want to jump to this story and go back to what we were talking about with political conflict.
We have this from TimCast.com.
LibertySafe cites company protocol on decision to provide FBI with access code.
Let me slow down.
This is about the January 6th cases, for those that aren't familiar.
A guy was arrested.
He had a LibertySafe, a gun safe.
Liberty was contacted by the FBI who said we have a warrant for his premises, so they gave the code to the safe to the FBI.
Now, there's a lot of questions that arise from this.
How did they have the code to the safe in the first place?
Easy.
It appears that Liberty has publicly admitted, as a safe company, they have a backdoor to all of your safes.
This means if you own a Liberty safe for your guns, you are compromised.
Period.
This is not political.
This is not, I don't like the company because they betrayed a guy or whatever.
Look, I'll tell you this right now.
If a company receives a court order to hand over information, I fully expect you to do it.
We are a nation of due process and laws, and if a judge signs off on a legitimate warrant or court order saying, you're going to turn this information over, we expect it to happen.
When we subpoena the DOJ or whatever, when the Republicans do in Congress, and they don't do it, we get mad about it.
If a court order is given down, we respect it.
Now, there's a bunch of questions here.
Liberty, apparently, didn't get a court order.
They were shown a warrant for someone else's house and then said, sure, we'll give you the code anyway.
That's got a lot of people pissed off, but more importantly, outside of all of the politics, if you purchased a Liberty Safe, understand that at any point, for any reason, legal or illegal, someone else has access to your safe and could steal everything you own.
And I'll give you a simple scenario.
Liberty has a backdoor baked into your safe.
That means someone has access to that code.
I assume it's likely based on an algorithm pertaining to the serial number of your safe.
This is typically how companies generate unique passcodes and backdoors.
I don't know that this is exactly how they do it.
But we do know they have the code.
Which means...
A rogue employee could see an order comes in for a high-end safe worth thousands of dollars, which can hold 50 grand in guns and other equipment, or who knows what, gold, and then tells one of their buddies, hey, here's the address, here's the safe model, and here's the backdoor code.
They wait six months, monitor your home because they know your address because the guy's got it.
Now, I'm not saying Liberty employees are compromised.
I'm just saying, why would you risk it?
More importantly, anyone could steal the information from Liberty and now they can break into your safe.
This is the craziest thing to come out in terms of, you know, one of the craziest stories so far.
Liberty Safe issued a statement saying that it's their policy to give access codes to law enforcement if a warrant grants them access to a property.
What that means is, A court order was not issued to the GunSafe manufacturer.
They just showed them that they have a warrant for the property.
LibertySafe could have said, when a judge instructs us to hand over the information, we'll do it, but we can't until then.
And even if they do, they can say, our lawyer will appeal.
This is absolutely insane to find out.
This is resulting in a major backlash.
I don't know how big Liberty is, but I just want to stress to you guys, if you own a LibertySafe, you are compromised.
brett dasovic
Does the same thing hold true for home alarm systems?
tim pool
It... look, typically...
When it comes to, the answer is yes.
When it comes to security, we don't expect them to install backdoor access to our systems that we buy.
Right, so let me show you this.
I have another tweet people are already pointing out.
This is Securit Gun Storage.
They responded saying, we firmly believe in our customers' right and freedom to control their personal property.
Recently, Securit was made aware of and asked to comment on the situation involving the FBI and a well-known safe manufacturer.
The FBI requested the access code to the safe of an individual for whom they have a warrant to search their property.
The company protocol is to provide these access codes to law enforcement if a warrant grants them access to the property.
It is Securit's belief and protocol that the protection of personal property and the Second Amendment rights of American citizens are paramount.
Our full line of fast-access modular safes are not built with any override systems, giving our customers full control.
The freedom and liberty to possess firearms is the right of every American citizen.
Securit will always put those same rights of our current and future customers first.
That is to say, based on the information before us, if you have a LibertySafe, you don't know who has the backdoor code.
That means More than just you can go into your safe.
Maybe you've got your dad's watch, your grandmother's necklace, or maybe you've got a $20,000 brand new beautiful Barrett of some sort with tons of ammo, and it's yours, and it's expensive, and you don't want it stolen.
Why would you go with a safe company that runs a backdoor?
The interesting thing is, I'm not seeing In the leftist media, direct attacks and insults like you normally expect from a story like this.
Why?
The left has consistently complained about companies creating backdoor access to encryption, so it's going to be very difficult for them to come out and be like, haha, gun nuts are losing their- uh oh.
Yeah, we actually don't like that idea either, especially many of these leftists who are pro-gun.
So if you have a secured safe and the Feds or anyone goes to them, they're going to say, look, we don't have access.
That is a private safe owned by somebody.
You got to figure it out for yourself, man.
I don't know idea.
Liberty is like, don't worry.
We installed backdoor access to all of our safes and we'll give it to you if you ask.
terrence kentrell williams
Right.
I mean, they could have some mad employee to sell the backdoor access to someone.
You never know.
The fact that they even got that is ridiculous.
brett dasovic
Apple didn't turn over information back in 2013, right?
Yep.
I imagine all of them would now.
tim pool
This is really, really crazy too.
terrence kentrell williams
I think Apple did turn over some information.
tim pool
Well, there was a big story where the Feds demanded Apple open a phone, and they were like, no way.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
Because here's the thing, that's what I was saying.
Leftists are very, very angry about backdoor access.
Because, you know, they do creepy stuff.
They have activist servers, they don't want the Feds seizing, they don't want... So Apple's probably thinking like, if word gets out that we give the Feds access to your device, we're gonna lose a lot of money in market share, so just don't do it unless you absolutely have to.
Good luck, Liberty Safe, I guess.
ian crossland
This is a big part of the reason why, as a social network, and just in general, you don't want to hold more data than you need because then you become a vulnerability, like Mines doesn't have chat keys.
We don't have access to the chat at Mines because it's encrypted and it's user-to-user.
If you have the keys, then when the FBI comes, you have to give them to the FBI legally.
Expected to do it.
It's better not to hold the data.
I would say immediately get rid of your liberty safe if you've got one to get a new safe that doesn't have a backdoor in it because that is massive vulnerability.
So someone could steal your gun out of there and use it to commit a crime and make it look like you did it.
tim pool
There's so much- there's so much wrong with this.
Uh, I would argue that they are not secure at all if a backdoor is installed.
Someone could figure out- oh, alright, so, I don't- I don't know exactly how they generate backdoor passcodes.
It could be the stupidest thing in the world where LibertySafe has a master code for all saves that's identical, which would be insane.
For all I know, they're that dumb.
brett dasovic
1, 2, 3, 4.
tim pool
I mean, yo, they used to do this!
Without me naming the system itself, they were very common machines that were available to the public everywhere, and their unlock code was like 54321.
And they just figured nobody would know how to access the panel to do it, and then on the internet they were like, hey guys, here's how you can access the control systems for these widely available machines.
I'll keep it simple, they were vending machines, but I'm not going to say which ones.
And people started changing prices and doing crazy stuff, and it was like they didn't expect it to happen.
And then after people caught on, they said, guys, change the default code on these machines.
As Ian was pointing out, imagine somebody... Let's imagine two scenarios.
One, Liberty uses a default master code.
It's 16 digits and it can open any safe.
Okay, you're compromised beyond belief.
Anyone can just go in and do this.
Now, imagine they don't do that, but...
What a lot of companies do, let's say routers, the router will have a serial number, they have an algorithm which creates a passcode based on the serial number of the router.
If you don't know the algorithm you don't get the password.
However, activists in Spain Took a whole bunch of passwords they knew, and a whole bunch of serial numbers, and then ran it basically through an algorithm to determine what the encryption was.
And from that point on, when I was in Spain, they had an app for this that they made, we're sharing.
You could, if the default name of the device was still available, and it would say like, you know, mobile router 78391A62, it would instantly generate the passcode based on the default name of the router.
The same thing could be true for Liberty Safes.
Someone could break into the house with an app, type in the serial number, and then it auto-generates the backdoor access key.
These things are worthless hunks of garbage.
I think there should be a massive lawsuit.
I think there should be a class action suit.
I think anybody who has one of these things should get a refund on it.
I don't know.
It's crazy to hear this and they're saying it's their policy.
If you bought this and they didn't disclose that there's actually backdoor access, they robbed you.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
terrence kentrell williams
Now, do every company like this have to inform you that they have backdoor access?
I don't think so.
tim pool
I mean, buyer beware.
If you sell a product, there are some things you have to disclose and some things you don't.
In California, if you're selling food, you've got to say it's got carcinogens in it, but some things you don't have to.
terrence kentrell williams
Well, maybe this should be something that people have to do, that these companies have to do.
tim pool
You'll need a federal law for that.
Good luck getting that passed.
That's tough.
The federal government is a sludge.
ian crossland
That's a good point.
If they didn't know they were getting sold a machine with a backdoor, that's scandalous.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, and I think the FBI already knew before they even called.
What is it called again?
ian crossland
Liberty Safe?
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, Liberty Safe.
They already knew.
The FBI already knew or they wouldn't have called them.
tim pool
Exactly.
They knew!
Consider this.
The fact that the FBI contacted them and said, can you give us the backdoor key?
They knew the backdoor keys exist.
terrence kentrell williams
Exactly.
tim pool
That's crazy, man.
ian crossland
What other security products do they make?
Do you guys know?
Liberty?
unidentified
I don't know.
ian crossland
We'll Google it.
How ubiquitous is this company right now?
Gun safe, home safe.
terrence kentrell williams
And maybe this is something that Trump should... I know you said it's going to be hard, you know, getting something like... getting something passed to where these companies have to inform the buyers that they have, you know, backdoor access.
But why not let them know?
Like, why not?
Why should they... I mean, why shouldn't they know?
tim pool
When you move into a house, you change your locks.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
You move into a new apartment, you change your locks.
Would you buy a deadbolt for your house if the package said, and a random guy you don't know also has a copy of your key?
terrence kentrell williams
Hell no.
tim pool
You'd be like, what?
terrence kentrell williams
Hell no.
tim pool
Get out of here, dude.
terrence kentrell williams
Hell no.
But at the end of the day, I want to know.
I want to know, and I think I should know that.
Because it's my safety.
You could have some mad, crazy, insane employee who could, you know, get access to my house.
I should know this.
ian crossland
There's like, you can go to a Home Depot and get a copy of your key made, but who's to say that they didn't just make an extra copy for themselves?
terrence kentrell williams
Right.
That's true.
It's not a... That is very true.
ian crossland
Not that they know what your key is for, necessarily, but... Well, they have a copy.
terrence kentrell williams
Because they made you a copy.
So they have the digital print for it.
brett dasovic
But they might not know what it's for, you're saying, right?
Like, what's the key for, even?
ian crossland
Yeah, hopefully not.
brett dasovic
I mean, I imagine like if you're buying something like this, there's some type of manual on how to use it and it's probably buried in the fine print in the back of the manual that the access would be given up if need be.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
If you forget your code, you can always use zero, zero, you know, whatever the hell it is.
terrence kentrell williams
Some people say, you know, I've been, some people say, and after this came out, a lot of people are saying we just don't have privacy at all, really.
Like there's no such thing as real privacy in this country.
ian crossland
Dude, there's satellites that can track the noise you're making.
I don't know the technology exactly, but they said that they can put, I don't know if it's a radio frequency or something, through your walls in your house and then listen to you through your walls.
I kind of tend to agree that privacy's gone.
Like, I think we can go out in the woods and have a really quiet conversation like this.
But who's to say that the satellites aren't picking it up at this point?
I don't know.
I don't feel like anything's private these days.
I got Alexa on in the freakin' listening.
My phone, if you say, OK Google, it sparks this stupid thing up.
tim pool
Don't say it, you just did.
brett dasovic
And it's like, how innocuous is that that three words can trigger Millions of devices to go off and then it's like your your phone says like if you if you would like us to not Have access hit this button.
I'm like, I'm sure you're absolutely listening to this I'm sure you're I'm sure you followed the letter of the law should be off by default.
tim pool
My god, that should be off by default Someone super chatted saying that it was a public square company.
brett dasovic
Let's pull it up There was a wasn't there a story about like Zuckerberg got hacked once and his password is like da da.
terrence kentrell williams
I Well, I saw a commercial with Sean Hannity promoting, uh... The safe company?
Yeah, the safe company.
tim pool
Really?
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
Wow, this is a big deal.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, they're gonna have to just remove it.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
They can't... Let's, uh, let's search it.
Liberty... TNT Liberty Safe?
Sounds like the same company, is it?
brett dasovic
Different company?
ian crossland
People register their safe online.
tim pool
Yeah, no, this is a different company.
This is very much a different company, guys.
This is TNT.
So that's good to find out, unless I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's a different company.
The other company is... Let me see, I'm searching for it.
The Liberty Safe we're talking about is based out of Utah.
This one said T&T, so let's not... Does it say where T&T is?
Yeah, it's different.
I'm pretty sure it's a different company.
brett dasovic
So there's more than one Liberty Safe company?
ian crossland
Yeah, this one's just Liberty, and then it says Safe, really small underneath it.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, everything is something different.
We do not besmirch the good name of a separate company that did nothing wrong.
Look, if Liberty Safes comes out and says, we're abandoning this policy, we are revoking all backdoor access, none of our models will have this anymore, I'd be like, okay, awesome, that's fantastic, thank you.
And that's it.
And then buy their safes.
unidentified
But in the meantime... Aw, dude, I... Man, wow.
If you have a Liberty Safe, dude, holy crap.
terrence kentrell williams
The government has access to everything.
ian crossland
And then by proxy, everyone else does.
Like, you can't trust a government agent not to tell your buddy down the street your safe password so the next time he's over having dinner, he can just go into your bedroom and like, what?
tim pool
Well, of course you gotta be careful.
ian crossland
Obviously that's like a string of crazy events, but it's possible.
tim pool
But look, you've got spare keys to your apartment or your house, and a neighbor has them in case of emergencies, but it's because you trust your neighbor.
Like I said, imagine if you went to the hardware store and it said quadruple ultimate level 27 ultra lock and the key is like this weird long snake thing with all these spikes on it and you can't even understand it and you're like wow and it's like plus with every order a key is given to a random guy you've never met you'd be like what?
brett dasovic
Bill Insecurity has a copy in case you lose yours and he'll come over and you can totally trust Bill.
tim pool
Our company has a secret key to all the locks we sell and we're gonna give it to whoever we feel like deserves it without a court order.
terrence kentrell williams
So a locksmith came to my house, he changed out all the locks in my home and he was like, man, I just gotta tell you, I love you, I'm a big fan.
I appreciated that, that he was a fan, but I was uncomfortable because you don't want to say anything that makes him mad.
This guy knows me, like he's gonna go, he's like, oh I can't wait to tell my wife, and oh my cousin, and I'm like, oh no!
And he's probably gonna tell them, and you know what, he's probably a good guy, but he's gonna go home, he's gonna tell everybody where I live, so I called another locksmith after him and said, I need all my locks changed again.
tim pool
The thing about your typical pin and tumble locks, the ones you have, like, what is it?
I think it's five numbers.
So, uh, I'm not an expert on this, but my general understanding is that there's the grooves correlate with numbers.
And if you know the numbers, you can cut the key.
So it, so a locksmith, for instance, when you, when you call a locksmith and then he, you know, sticks the key in and then he marks it and does it again.
And then he, he creates a key to open the door.
He knows the numbers of your key and can recreate it pretty easily.
Not to mention, I just gotta be honest you guys, the lock on your door, if you really think that's keeping anybody out, like obviously for one, someone could kick a door in very easily.
terrence kentrell williams
Very true.
tim pool
But there's things called bump keys, which are basically filed down to the lowest point, and you just tap it in and turn it, it pops right open.
There's also rakes and locksmiths tend to use like a, I think it's called a rake gun.
It's just a device you stick in and you pull it and it jiggles the pins until it pops open.
Real easy to get access to.
terrence kentrell williams
That's why you need a gun.
tim pool
You gotta defend yourself.
terrence kentrell williams
That's why you need a gun.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story from the Daily Mail.
We're gonna talk about that parallel economy.
Bill Gates bets on Bud Light's comeback as tech mogul buys 1.7 million shares of disgraced brand's parent company.
It's so serious that the Daily Mail put three L's in million. After the Dillon Mulvaney partnership, the
Microsoft founder acquired the Bud Light shares via his Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation Trust
during the second quarter of this year.
The shares hold a market value of approximately $95 million, reports Tip Ranks.
My friends, we stand before us a great opportunity. If we convince everyone not to drink Bud Light
and double down on the boycott, not only will you teach a woke corporation a lesson, a corporation
that keeps doubling down on this messaging despite the backlash, you will drive
Bye!
You will take money away from Bill Gates.
The shares that he purchased will go down in value, and he will lose money.
Granted, it's only 95 million dollars, you know, and if this drops by a couple bucks, he's gonna go down to, like, 90, he's not really gonna blink, the dude's worth 100 plus billion dollars, but, uh, you know, whatever.
One can dream.
brett dasovic
It's a victory for you, not a loss for him.
tim pool
But this is it.
Obviously, I'm not surprised to see this from Bill Gates.
This, to me, seems more like Bill Gates is trying to save the stock price of Anheuser-Busch.
This purchase is going to stabilize the price to a certain degree, or perhaps even create the perception it's recovering, in an attempt to manipulate people who don't care about the culture wars into buying the stocks again, or the shares, and then that will cause more people to want to be involved.
I say, don't let him do it.
Don't let him do it.
I'm not going to give you financial advice, I'm just saying from a cultural perspective, we have to double down on the Bud Light story once again.
The fact that Bill Gates just bought a large portion of it is all the more reason to absolutely reject Bud Light as a product.
ian crossland
What percentage did he get out of that?
tim pool
Oh, it's microscopic in terms of Anheuser's, you know, what is it, they say Bud Light shares, that's probably, you know, AB InBev.
Stock prices dropped.
brett dasovic
So it shares in InBev, not necessarily in BudLight, or in Budweiser.
tim pool
Yeah, they say BudLight stock, but I'm pretty sure that it actually shares in Anheuser, which is AB InBev.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, I mean, I don't think we have anything to worry about.
A lot of people are still not buying BudLight.
brett dasovic
See if you can get BudLight to hire the Dasani guy, because nobody buys Dasani water, then we just get them to lose more money.
unidentified
I do.
brett dasovic
You buy Dasani water?
Yes.
We found the one person.
terrence kentrell williams
I love Dasani water.
brett dasovic
Have you ever seen those pictures of like, Florida after a hurricane, like all the water's gone except for the Dasani water's all just sitting there.
You're the one guy.
tim pool
I love it.
terrence kentrell williams
I like Dasani and I like Aquafina.
I buy both of them.
I buy one pack of Dasani, one pack of Aquafina.
tim pool
Well, let's talk about this parallel economy, right?
So, outside of what Bill Gates may want to do, you've got conservative dads, ultra-right beer.
This is Seth Weathers.
We've got a bunch of his beer.
We ordered it.
It's good stuff.
And they're doing sales by the truckload.
It's crazy.
Apparently, they're doing ridiculously well.
You take a look at the failures of these companies when they get woke and go broke, and in this story, we have the amazing story of a young man who had one dream, and that was to sell pancakes.
That man sits before us today.
terrence kentrell williams
That was my American dream.
All I ever wanted was freedom and pancakes.
tim pool
So let's talk about your pancakes, though, because this is a big component of building this parallel economy.
I want to say, I was personally deeply offended when they took Aunt Jemima away.
Because when I was little, we had Aunt Jemima all the time.
I'd go downstairs, I'd grab the box, I would never follow the instructions, I would just pour the mix into the cup, I'd mix it with a little bit of milk or something, and then just throw it in the pan with too much butter so it got fried and, you know, ridiculous and delicious.
And then, I grew up on that.
And, like, we're not racist, my family.
We liked the brand.
We had Aunt Jemima syrup, and then one day they decided it was not okay for anybody to smile and look up to an iconic figure on a product that was black.
Uncle Ben, Aunt Jemima, and Mrs. Butterworth was not even black.
They took anyone who was black off of products.
terrence kentrell williams
There was a guy on cream of wheat too.
There's a black guy on the cream of wheat.
That stuff was good.
They took him off the box.
They took him off of his product also.
What is that guy's name on the cream of wheat?
ian crossland
Oh, that guy was awesome.
Yeah.
terrence kentrell williams
Frank L. White.
Yeah, they took this guy off the box also.
That, that.
But like I said earlier, it's insane because these same people who were upset
that a black face was on a food box are the same people who say,
Black people need more representation.
But if you go into the grocery store now, you don't see any black people on any food boxes.
At all.
This is reverse racism, but then you let the white guy out there.
tim pool
You got Chef Boyardee, he's still there.
The Quaker Oats guy, he's still there.
terrence kentrell williams
Quaker Oats is happy as... he's happy.
He is happy as hell.
ian crossland
That's a religious thing too, he's a Quaker.
tim pool
This is what bothered me.
Imagine you go to a restaurant every day, and... Like, you go for breakfast before work, and there's Aunt Jemima making your pancakes, smiling.
She's a good friend.
She's always there.
You know that when you're having a rough day, you show up, and she's got a smile on her face and delicious pancakes, and then one day the boss is like, we got rid of her because we can't have a black person working here.
It's racist.
That's basically what they did to the iconic images of these characters.
terrence kentrell williams
I just don't like... Like...
How were you losing sleep at night because this black woman was on a pancake box?
Who was sitting up at night, rolling over in bed, can't sleep, and that's bothering you?
unidentified
Well, check it out.
tim pool
The family got mad.
terrence kentrell williams
Yes.
tim pool
Because they were getting paid, I guess.
Oh, no.
brett dasovic
Because multiple women have portrayed on Jemima in history.
terrence kentrell williams
This is the craziest thing I heard.
They said, So they're claiming that Aunt Jemima is like some slave figure.
And they're saying that white people get a kick out of this black woman making them pancakes.
It's like, she's like a house slave in the home of white people.
So they really didn't want white people having this black character on a food box in their cabinet.
ian crossland
Was she a slave?
terrence kentrell williams
No, she was not a slave.
tim pool
But they said she's a paid spokesperson.
terrence kentrell williams
But they're saying that she is like a slave figure, like a house slave.
So that's what they were trying to claim.
But it's ridiculous.
I have not met one person who wanted this woman off of the box.
I want to meet the people!
I want to meet these people!
ian crossland
I want to meet Jemima herself.
tim pool
And then you went and put yourself on...
terrence kentrell williams
Exactly, and listen, like Aunt Jemima, anytime that I had Aunt Jemima, I was, I mean, extremely happy.
And I was introduced to Aunt Jemima when I was growing up in foster care.
One of my foster homes, all they bought was Aunt Jemima pancakes.
So I was introduced to her and I just fell in love with that mix.
And every time I see that box, it brings back memories from childhood.
And then they took it away.
So I was like, what in the hell?
brett dasovic
You should see if the company will sell you the trademark.
terrence kentrell williams
They would never do that.
tim pool
No, but they've abandoned it.
You might be able to just take it.
brett dasovic
That's like you were talking about with the logo for Independent.
terrence kentrell williams
No, they are still using it.
Now, they're not using our face, but they're using the name on the new box.
brett dasovic
It's Pearl Milling Company now.
terrence kentrell williams
No, they're using...
No, if you see the box, at the very bottom, it says, uh, uh, it says, uh, formerly Aunt
Jamama.
tim pool
Yes, yes.
terrence kentrell williams
Uh, Aunt Jamama, uh, uh, same taste as Aunt Jamama.
So they're still using...
But...
brett dasovic
It's just wrong, man.
tim pool
But, you still might have a legal challenge to the trademark because they've changed it.
So, we have this right here.
This is Tim Kast Skateboard Company, which I announced several months ago, and Independent has no challenge.
This symbol right here is, it used to be the Independent Skateboard Truck's logo, and they abandoned it because people said it looks like a German iron cross or something, and it's racist or whatever.
So they apologized.
No, we're not racist!
They got rid of that logo.
And so I said, okay, then it's abandoned IP.
It's now public domain.
I'm using it.
terrence kentrell williams
So I could try, I could try.
And you know, one thing that all Americans, most of us have in common, white people, black people, Hispanics, all Americans, most Americans love pancakes.
And if they don't love pancakes, they love waffles, you know?
And that's one thing that will bring people together is food.
brett dasovic
Pancakes, waffles, or French toast for you?
terrence kentrell williams
Pancakes!
brett dasovic
Pancakes?
terrence kentrell williams
Pancakes!
ian crossland
Do you use different kinds of flour?
terrence kentrell williams
Do I use different kinds of flour?
ian crossland
Almond flour, do you ever mess with it?
terrence kentrell williams
No, I do not have almond flour, but I am coming out with a vegan mix.
ian crossland
How's that work?
What's the ingredients?
tim pool
No buttermilk?
terrence kentrell williams
It's gonna be like a vanilla bean, and then I have a keto mix that'll come out soon, and also I have gluten-free at the moment.
ian crossland
Oh, what's the gluten-free?
terrence kentrell williams
The gluten-free?
ian crossland
How do you make it?
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
There's so many different ingredients, but yeah, I need to read all the ingredients.
Yeah, I wonder what the flour is.
And then I have different flavors.
I have blueberry, apple cinnamon, cinnamon bun, chocolate chip.
ian crossland
Oh, what was the other one?
terrence kentrell williams
Chocolate chip.
Yeah, so I have chocolate chip and sweet potato mix, pumpkin spice.
I have a whole bunch of different mixes.
But I need to find out, you know, the gluten-free stuff is gluten-free certified, so anything I say on here, I have to get it right.
ian crossland
Yeah.
terrence kentrell williams
They'll be breathing down my back.
ian crossland
Gluten-free is where it's at, sometimes.
brett dasovic
But let me try how I feel about that pumpkin spice one, but the rest of it, you know.
tim pool
You're in, what did you say, 38 stores?
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, so I'm in the Sedano supermarket.
It's in South Florida.
tim pool
How do we get Cousin T's nationwide in every supermarket?
terrence kentrell williams
Oh, man, getting these... So many of the grocery stores are so woke.
And you know, and this is the tough thing here.
So, you know, Cousin T's, now people can get it on cousints.com right now.
So I ship everywhere.
But, you know, I'm still, I'm a small business.
And what it costs me to make my pancake mix, The big brands are selling it for what I, for what, like, the price that they're selling it at is the price that I'm buying it at.
Because they buy millions of boxes to drive their costs down.
I don't have the money to do that.
Right.
So, in the grocery stores, they like to mark up the products 30 to 40 percent.
tim pool
Yep.
terrence kentrell williams
Well, my product is already, it's already expensive.
tim pool
Small batch premium.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah compared to and it's a gourmet product too so it is more expensive compared to the bigger brands um so you know if you put my stuff on the shelf it's going to be way more expensive because the grocery stores mark it up 30 or 40 percent so that's so that's so so that's what I'm dealing with too and also Walmart is so woke.
Target is woke.
And they, like I said, anytime I try to get into these stores, they, they go, they most likely, they look at my social media account and say, no, we can't take it.
Then I return my email, then I return my calls.
brett dasovic
Have you thought of calling them racist?
tim pool
No, no, but in all seriousness, you just need people to go to the manager of the store and be like, do you guys carry Cousin Tees?
And if they're like, no, be like, are you ever going to get it in?
I love that stuff.
And then eventually stores will be like... True.
ian crossland
Call your local grocery store and request it.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, and you know, and people, people have done that.
And then I have trolls who call Saldana's Super, who have called Saldana's, telling them to take me off the shelf, calling me Terrence is an insurrectionist and he's, Terrence is, uh, he's racist and he's this and he's that.
And they've, and they have attempted to try to get me booted out of that store, but thank God that they haven't, you know, paid that any mind at all.
So, you know, and so Donald's is a Cuban.
It's, it's a, it's a Cuban chain, you know, and I really appreciate my Cubans, but I would love to be everywhere else.
tim pool
We filmed a commercial earlier.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, we did, yeah.
tim pool
Casbrew and Cousin T's.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, Casbrew is some really great coffee.
Some really great coffee.
tim pool
We have the same issue, right?
It's more expensive because we only do, like, a couple hundred bags at a time.
And then it takes, like, six weeks or whatever.
So the bag printing takes a long time because we want the bags to be, like, good.
We want the product to be good.
Made in America and all that stuff.
And I'd love to get to the point where we could drive costs down by buying millions upon millions.
But we'll get there.
We're not in any stores.
We just have the online store.
We're launching our own coffee shop, which should be open in a couple of months.
But this is what matters.
Let the woke companies get what go broke.
It may be more difficult, but that's the point.
If it was easy, it would just be the way.
That's the saying, right?
terrence kentrell williams
Right.
tim pool
We don't take shortcuts.
If Cousin T's becomes big and takes over, then you've got a company like Aunt Jemima, which used to be a staple.
I'd go to the corner store down the street, and that's all they had.
If you're buying pancake mix, it's that.
Or you could buy Bisquick, but you gotta add stuff to Bisquick.
Aunt Jemima's ready to go out of the box.
As a little kid, I can just mix it with water and I got pancakes.
Well, let them be woke and we won't buy from them.
I'm not saying everybody can do this.
And this is why I like, when you sent us a care package, a lot of people asked me about the Cousin T's original syrup, and it says no high fructose corn syrup, but immediately I had someone say, aw, but that's not real maple syrup.
And I'm like, well dude, do you think the average family's gonna drop 20 bucks on pure, refrigerated, perishable maple syrup?
terrence kentrell williams
Exactly.
tim pool
Or do they want something closer to what they can afford to buy, which is the lower cost, but you also- Half pure maple syrup.
terrence kentrell williams
I also sell it.
I sell both.
I give people the option.
Because some people cannot afford pure maple.
That pure maple costs me a lot of money.
tim pool
It's like 20 bucks when you buy it in those glass bottles.
terrence kentrell williams
Yes.
tim pool
But also there's no high fructose corn syrup in your original syrup.
terrence kentrell williams
Exactly.
Yeah, exactly, and the original syrup is very delicious, but everybody can't afford a $16-$20 bottle of pure maple syrup, so I offer the original syrup, and then people are like, oh, well, it's not real.
Okay, then I also have the real syrup, too.
Right.
So what you're going to complain about now You know, but I do think we have to start supporting these non-woke companies like Cass Crew Coffee, Cousin T's, Cass Brew.
Cass Crew's a pretty cool name.
I say Cass Crew.
That's so cool, dude.
Yeah, we really have to.
So that's what I'm doing.
I found a company on Public Square.
I'm coming out with jellies.
Are you on Public Square?
Yes, I'm on Public Square.
And I saw a company that... So I'm coming out with some jellies and jams.
And I saw a company, I think it's called Laurel's Butter.
And she sells all kinds of peanut butter.
The butters are all different.
almond butter, peanut butter, butter made with sunflower seeds
and all different kind of flavors, like pancake flavor butter.
I mean, it's some really great stuff.
So instead of me coming out with my own butter, I said, you know what I'm gonna do?
I reached out to that company and said, I wanna do a collaboration.
I wanna do a collaboration.
You know, we can sell our items together.
I'm going to try your product.
And if I think it's great, then I will help you out.
And that's what I'm going to do.
And if I get a call to the grocery store, like if I get a meeting at some grocery store chain, And you know what I'm going to do?
If there's a great company that I think that is a great fit, I'm going to, hey, so there's this company called Laurel's Butter, a company called Kaz Brew Coffee.
They have some really great coffee.
Can I bring in the samples?
Because we all, we all work together so I can bring it.
brett dasovic
You got gluten free right here.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
brett dasovic
How bad was the pushback?
terrence kentrell williams
But that's what, but that's what we have to do, you know?
brett dasovic
How bad was the pushback when you said people were calling?
terrence kentrell williams
When I came out with the pancake mix, okay, so since I've done comedy, some people thought it was a joke.
They thought it was a parody.
And that's what I was low-key afraid of, is that some people may not take it serious because they think it's a joke.
But it ended up, you know, blowing up and people love it.
But then I had haters calling it Uncle Tom Cakes, Coon Cakes.
Wow.
Yeah, you know, and saying, oh, you are a disgrace.
Oh, you're a copycat.
Oh, Aunt Jemima should sue you.
Look at your smile.
You're smiling like her.
That's copyright infringement.
I'm like, what are y'all talking about?
brett dasovic
You're smiling like her.
Yeah, exactly.
terrence kentrell williams
It's a copyright infringement.
This is my smile.
God gave me this smile.
What are you talking about?
But yeah, I got a lot of pushback and a lot of people were talking crap about it, trying to put out fake That's what they do too.
They go to the reviews and put fake reviews.
They leave fake reviews.
But if I was a liberal, this is the crazy thing, if I was a black liberal, those same black people and those same liberals, They would be all, this is black excellence.
Oh, this is black excellence.
Terrence come from foster care and now he has his own food company.
I would be on MSNBC, CNN.
I would be on The View.
I would be on Good Morning America.
This is the greatest success story.
This, Terrence grew up in foster care and he, you know, for the first 15 years of his life and he has his own pancake company and all that.
They would have been doing all of that, but since I am a conservative Trump supporter, my story doesn't matter.
Terrence is trash.
Terrence is a sellout.
He's selling out his community, and he's whitewashed.
And I just think it's bogus because y'all claim, y'all, y'all always talking about, Oh, black people need more opportunities in America.
That's all I hear.
Black people need more opportunities.
The white man need to give black, uh, they need to give black people a chance.
unidentified
Here.
terrence kentrell williams
I am black.
I'm black.
Like this is, I'm black, black, black, black, black, black, you know?
Um, and.
And those same people don't support me because I think differently.
ian crossland
Have you ever considered being apolitical to sell more products?
terrence kentrell williams
Hell no!
No, not at all.
Before I even came out and said I was going to support Trump, I told one of my family members, you know, I was talking about me blowing up on social media.
People have been asking me who, like who, uh, who, uh, who, who am I going to vote for?
And I said, um, president Trump.
No, I said Trump at the time cause he wasn't the president.
I said Trump.
They said, hell no, do not do that because you want to be a comedian.
You want to be an actor.
You will never make it in Hollywood if you come out supporting him because people don't like him.
They, They think he's racist, like they think he's racist.
And I was laying, I was laying, I was laying in bed thinking like, you know what?
It didn't feel right for me to just to hold back and not share.
I am so opinionated and for me to suppress my opinion and to and to pretend to be something that I'm not pretend and pretend to believe in something that I don't believe in.
It's just it just didn't sit right with me.
It doesn't it didn't feel right.
So I said forget it.
Like, I support President Trump and I am aware, and I was aware before I said that, that guess what?
I may not be allowed in Hollywood if I ever want to be a comedian, if I ever want to be an actor.
I won't get the gig, but I don't care because I feel good.
I was able to say what I wanted to say.
I feel free!
I feel free when I'm able to express my opinion and I don't give a damn what people say anymore.
I don't care.
And I was surprised in the beginning because a lot of my friends attacked me.
I had family members calling me, joking around at Thanksgiving, Uncle Tom, Coon.
I'm not bringing up Trump.
I'm not bringing up politics.
So don't you bring it up.
But I was I was taken back by so many people that I grew up with that I went to school with attacking me.
Telling me I bet not show up to the class reunion or I'm gonna get my ass beat.
Uh, if they ever see me in, uh, in, uh, in, uh, Oklahoma again, cause I'm from Oklahoma city, but I live in Texas now.
If I ever see you in Oklahoma again, we gon', like, we gon', we gon', we gon' shoot you or we gon' beat you up.
We gon', we gon' slap the crap out of you.
I'm like, wow, these are people that I, These are people that I broke bread with.
These are people that I invited to my house, to my apartment.
You know, these are people that I gave money to because the little money that I had, you know, making $20,000 or $30,000 a year being a lawn cook.
You know, these are people that I helped when I didn't even have the money to help people.
And all of a sudden, I'm a bad guy.
I'm this horrible whitewashed coon, Uncle Tom.
So I said, but you know what?
I didn't let that hold me back.
And I kept going at it.
I didn't give a damn.
ian crossland
Did you, any of those, your friends that kind of turned on you?
I don't know how you describe it.
I assume it was in text that they... Yeah, text message.
terrence kentrell williams
Did they... Because we were not going to be face to face.
You threatening me?
I'm not facing you face to face.
ian crossland
You get a chance to work through with any of those guys or people?
terrence kentrell williams
No.
Not at all.
Not at all.
Once you call me a name, once you call me a name, an Uncle Tom, a Coon, you call me a sellout, there's no working it out with me.
I'm not going to explain myself to you.
And I'm not going to apologize for thinking differently.
I'm not going to apologize for voting for some individual.
I'm not going to do that.
So no, I'm not working it out and I don't reach out to them.
Now, I had a sibling One of my siblings, I've been working it out with him, but I have been keeping distance from him.
But you know, and throughout the years since 2016, if I don't give him money, cause he, you know, if he like, they think I'm just some multi-millionaire because I have hundreds and thousands of like millions of followers or whatever.
But if I don't give them money or whatever, one of my siblings, he called me uncle Tom.
Coon and you like you know you'll be our TCH and you whitewash you ain't nothing but a sellout You know, I just ignore that.
But since we are siblings, you know, I set them straight.
Listen, like, stop texting me, you know, like, but, you know, but we go crabs in a barrel.
Yeah, exactly.
But yeah, I just at the end of the day, I'm not letting anybody bully me.
Like you are not about to bully me.
Call me what you want.
I don't give a damn.
I got thick skin.
unidentified
And it is what it is.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
ian crossland
Are you in Austin?
terrence kentrell williams
I mean, I used to live in Austin.
ian crossland
Oh, yeah.
terrence kentrell williams
But I live in Houston now.
ian crossland
Do you ever work at the Mothership?
Rogan's Comedy Club?
terrence kentrell williams
No, I haven't.
No.
ian crossland
That'd be funny as hell, dude.
terrence kentrell williams
I moved before he opened that up there.
ian crossland
Yeah, I'd like to see your stand-up.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
ian crossland
Is it online?
I haven't seen it.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, it is.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
ian crossland
Oh, hey, I got the ingredients of the gluten-free mix.
I checked it out.
It's a bunch of different kinds of flour.
There's corn flour, long-grain rice flour, potato starch, and tapioca starch with whole oat flour.
And actually whole sorghum flour also.
Sorghum's pretty cool.
tim pool
But the general idea here for everybody who's listening is...
We have to challenge this woke cult economy.
It's not easy.
It will be hard.
But it's going to be worth it.
When you look at what happens with Bud Light and everybody, not everybody, 30% of their customers are like, I got no problem not buying your beer and I'll buy from somebody else.
In order for it to happen, there has to be alternatives.
With Bud Light, Miller and Coors are readily available.
And of course Miller and Coors are also partially woke in their own way, Miller, Coors or whatever.
But they did not go as far with Bud Light, then Bud Light insulted their customers.
Cousin Tease is an alternative, you know?
If you're buying pancake mix, there's no reason to buy Pearl Milling Company.
These garbage companies that are condescending, insulting, and I wonder if the reason they did it is just to not pay the fee.
terrence kentrell williams
I'm growing slowly, but I'm also expanding the brand.
I'm coming out with rice.
You know, coming out with rice and I'm putting my black face on there too.
ian crossland
Yes.
terrence kentrell williams
So they came out to Uncle Ben, but the rice has been difficult because I don't have the money.
Some of these rice companies, you got to buy 1 million pounds.
tim pool
Yeah.
terrence kentrell williams
That is the minimum.
I'm like, ah.
I can't do that!
unidentified
You need distribution.
terrence kentrell williams
Exactly, I need that distribution.
But I'm coming out with all kinds of food.
I'm coming out with different fruit products like oatmeal, peanut butter, biscuits.
I'm going to collaborate with a Public Square company.
Instead of coming out with my own butter, I'm going to collaborate.
I want to start helping other food companies.
I don't have to compete with every food company on Public Square.
I want us to come together and help each other.
So that's what I'm going to start doing.
Instead of spending a bunch of money trying to come out with a new product here and a new product there, I don't have to come out with every single product.
I can work with a like-minded company and help them and we can collaborate and be a family brand.
tim pool
So where we start, maybe it's going to be really difficult to get into these big chain supermarkets.
But, I'm sure a lot of people listening to this show have small shops, corner stores, cafes, or whatever, even gas stations.
The gas station down the street, this is really funny, a month ago I went in there and they had an original Aunt Jemima box.
And I'm like, wow.
So I bought it, and that was a while ago, that was like two years ago they got rid of it, so that box has been in there for a long time.
But there's no reason that they don't carry Cousin T's instead of Aunt Jemima's.
It's just an issue of people listening to the show knowing, and then deciding to reach out to you and then say, like, give us a wholesale price, and then we'll sell it at our store.
And that's how we do it.
We've got people hitting us up for Casper Coffee, saying, like, can we carry your coffee?
Can we get, like, wholesale pricing?
And we're, like, done.
And my attitude right now is, dude, we'll make it the best deal in the world for you, because we just want to, for us, I'm not, I'm not trying to, I'm not, I'm not disrupting the coffee industry the way you are, like, you know, Aunt Jemima plays as BS.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, and they get rid of Aunt Jemima, they become Pearl Mill and Company, you come out with your face on it.
For us, we're trying to open a physical coffee location so that people can come together, hang out, and then we can build community, and then we can set up a bunch of these chains all over the place so people who share our views and values, and even disagree politically but respect the truth and the constitutional republic we live in, You know that there's a place you can go to where there's going to be like-minded individuals enjoying a cup of coffee, watching, you know, TV or watching a show.
We can put TVs on the walls that play Crowder, play Jimmy Dore, play your, like, you know, Terrence Williams comedy stuff can be playing on the TV.
That's our goal.
So, for me, I'm like, building the brand and getting it out there is the most important thing.
Granted, The fastest way towards establishing a thousand locations is making money doing it, but you gotta find that happy medium.
terrence kentrell williams
Exactly, exactly.
ian crossland
Are your website sales crushing?
terrence kentrell williams
Cousin Tees, yeah, you can go to cousintees.com.
ian crossland
I'm looking at it now.
It's Aunt Jemima, or not Aunt Jemima.
terrence kentrell williams
So right now I have over a hundred thousand customers.
Shopify gave me an award.
unidentified
Whoa!
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, they gave me an award for having a hundred thousand customers.
unidentified
Wow.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
So how long have you been around for?
terrence kentrell williams
I started the company October of 2021.
Wow.
That's when I started selling.
The thing is, I remember that the pancakes are good.
unidentified
Yeah.
terrence kentrell williams
Now, I don't care how much somebody loves you.
If your food is not good, they're not going to buy it again.
So people come back and buy.
But, you know, and a lot of it in the beginning was organic sales.
I've been running, you know, Ads on Facebook, and these are ads that I make at home on my cell phone.
But I talked to Rumble because I want to stop spending money with Facebook.
I want to stop spending ad money with them because you guys have demonetized me.
My account is in the red.
I can't do this and I can't do that, but you still take my money to run ads.
But I'm so, but I'm so bad that I can't, that my account has been flagged.
You know, you got me marked as hate speech, but I'm not that hateful because you're taking my money.
And, and you're taking my money so that I can market to the people who follow me.
And I just think that's wrong.
Like, so I might as well, so I was, you know, I talked to Rumble, like, hey, I want to start running ads with Rumble because they're not going to mark my account as hate speech and, and, and like, so, and, uh, suppress me.
tim pool
We got to get some of your cousin teas for our event in Miami.
terrence kentrell williams
Oh yeah, I saw that with Patrick, Matt, David.
tim pool
Yeah, we're going to be, we have a bunch of bags that are being, everyone who comes also gets a bag of products.
I don't know exactly what it's going to be, but we're taking samples from different public square companies.
terrence kentrell williams
Okay.
tim pool
And then as an attendee, you get a bag and it's going to have a bunch of stuff in it.
terrence kentrell williams
Oh, that's pretty awesome.
Yeah, that's pretty awesome.
tim pool
But we're also selling Casper Coffee there, so people can buy it when you're there.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
And we have a whole bunch just came in.
And we should do the same thing with Cousin T's.
I don't know if we end up with, you know, hundreds, but if we have like a dozen of them.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, I mean, I don't mind giving out some free pancakes, you know, because once they try them,
I know they're going to come back, they're going to want to buy another box.
ian crossland
Yeah, the ingredients are good.
terrence kentrell williams
So I'm very confident, you know.
ian crossland
Compared to Pearl Milling Company ingredients, which is like bleached flour.
Yeah.
Oh, it's just so much gross.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, so I have unbleached flour in mine.
Yeah, I have unbleached flour.
What's the difference?
Bleached and unbleached is just, it's more gourmet.
tim pool
It's like, it's just.
As described, it's bleached or not.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, it's bleached or not.
ian crossland
Bleached niacinamide, reduced iron, thiamine, mononitrate.
These are all in bleached riboflavin.
tim pool
Some of those things are just vitamins, dude.
ian crossland
Yeah, well, that's what they say.
But the thing is about vitamins, if you get it, if you eat a fruit and it has a vitamin in it, it's different than isolating the vitamin and adding it on top of a piece of meat and eating it.
Your body's going to synthesize it differently.
tim pool
So you can't just shove a bunch of stuff on top of your food and expect that it's Well you got protein in yours too, I was impressed, like buttermilk and stuff.
So I tried it for the first time today and it was really good.
terrence kentrell williams
I was actually going to come out with a protein mix.
I paid this great graphic designer to come up with the design, spent a lot of money on it, but the protein mix is going to have to wait.
I did tell a bunch of my customers that it was coming out this year.
But unfortunately, I cannot launch it because one box of a buttermilk protein box, a 16 ounce box, is going to cost me almost $5.
And then I have to pay a handling fee.
I have to pay, you know, a distribution center.
To pick and pack my... So it's gonna be too expensive for the consumer, so... I'mma just wait on that, but it will come soon, though.
It will come soon.
ian crossland
You're a private company, I would imagine.
terrence kentrell williams
Yes, I'm private.
ian crossland
Do you have any intention of taking it public and taking investments and things like that?
terrence kentrell williams
Yes, I do.
Yes, I do.
And actually, I like what Tim was talking about, opening up a physical location.
tim pool
Oh, dude.
terrence kentrell williams
So I am actually, yeah.
tim pool
Can we open a Cousin T's breakfast?
terrence kentrell williams
Most definitely.
I was just talking to some people about that, opening up a Cousin T shop, you know, because I'm not going to be begging these woke stores to take me forever.
tim pool
But I'm not saying the shop, I'm saying the diner.
terrence kentrell williams
You come and sit down and- Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, yeah, I know, but I'm also sell the product in the diner, you know, so people can come in and eat, and they can buy boxes of pancakes.
tim pool
And so, we gotta do this, and the other thing we're trying to do is Papa Jack's Pizza Shack, which is, you know, Jack Posobiec's Pizza Hut nationalism bit?
terrence kentrell williams
Oh no I don't.
tim pool
He talks about how back in the day Pizza Hut was this family sit-down restaurant with a salad bar and the commercials were like family get-togethers that have parties.
You'd get the book it little thing where you'd come and you know you if you do the book report you can come and it was now it's like a strip mall hole in the wall with like a hundred square feet where you walk in order pizza and leave or its delivery.
All we see now are these abandoned Pizza Hut buildings, and there's that meme, like, no matter what they put there, you know it's a Pizza Hut.
You know it was, and now it's gone.
So I told Jack Posobiec, I'm like, bro, we gotta open Papa Jack's Pizza Shack.
Like, we gotta make it happen.
And we could.
The only issue is we need someone to do it.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, Jack and I are both like, yes, and we're always making jokes, and he was like, the entrance is a big gate.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
A pizza gate.
terrence kentrell williams
So, there's...
So there is this outspoken celebrity chef named Andrew Grewal.
unidentified
He's been on the show?
tim pool
Of course, yeah.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, I mean, this guy has, I mean, he's, this guy built up a restaurant and sold it, you know, franchises.
tim pool
Maybe he can do it.
terrence kentrell williams
Andrew Grewal knows what, like, what he's doing.
And I have talked to him too, so.
I think that's somebody that we should talk to is Andrew Girl, because he started Slapfish and he built it out, you know, and he sold all these franchises and then he, yeah, so I think it's called Slapfish, is it?
unidentified
I don't know.
terrence kentrell williams
It's called Slapfish?
tim pool
But he taught me how to make eggs.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
Vinegar.
But his Slapfish, he sold it, they are in airports, they have You know, tons of locations, so I think Andrew Grewal would be a great guy to work with.
tim pool
We should do it.
Here's what I'm imagining.
If we can find a location, like a building that has two fronts, and one we do the Cousin T's Breakfast and one is Papa Jack's Pizza Shack.
Two birds with one stone.
Everyone's gonna want to go to both.
Everyone's gonna show up.
This is the plan.
We gotta do this.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, we should do this.
brett dasovic
You know the red cups?
I have some.
tim pool
The old red plastic cups?
brett dasovic
I got them on eBay.
tim pool
A true man.
Man, I remember the salad bar.
unidentified
Yep.
brett dasovic
Man.
tim pool
Decorated with kale.
ian crossland
Their crust was always too greasy for me.
tim pool
Compared to Domino's.
Pizza Hut's crust has Splenda in it.
It's awful.
Splenda?
Splenda in their crust.
terrence kentrell williams
Why'd they put Splenda in it?
tim pool
Makes it sweet, I guess.
And Papa John's is actually really good.
Papa John's and Little Caesars.
Their ingredients are pretty good.
But this is what I'm talking about.
Family friendly, family themed, sit down pizza restaurant.
We got to do it.
Cousin T's breakfast.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, it can be brunch.
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
terrence kentrell williams
Chicken and waffles.
tim pool
Oh, I mean, it's obviously like a full service.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
People will love that.
People will love it.
And they have that beautiful, look at that face.
ian crossland
Yeah.
terrence kentrell williams
A big sign out there, that big old smiley face.
ian crossland
Shining sunlight right behind you.
terrence kentrell williams
They're going to say, I have to try that.
ian crossland
You look so happy.
terrence kentrell williams
I have to go to that place.
tim pool
We got to hit up Chef Gruel.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, Chef Gruel.
Because I'm sure he is the guy.
He is the guy.
Let's do it.
ian crossland
Follow him on Twitter.
terrence kentrell williams
He is the guy.
tim pool
Yeah, he's cool.
terrence kentrell williams
He has built restaurants and sold them.
So he knows what he's doing.
ian crossland
CEO, executive chef of Slapfish.
That's the company you were talking about earlier.
terrence kentrell williams
Yep.
ian crossland
Casual seafood restaurant.
terrence kentrell williams
And it was a franchise too, right?
Yep.
And he made it a franchise and he sold several.
He sold the company and made a lot of money and he has more restaurants.
tim pool
This is the way.
All right, we'll hit them up.
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But let's read your superchats.
Ben says, did I beat him?
Yes, Ben.
unidentified
You are the first superchat today.
tim pool
You win.
You win a compliment.
Good job.
Purple says, your boy Luke went in.
Better than Tucker.
Asked Larry if he was on Coke live.
LMFAO.
Casper for life.
Rip Roberto Jr.
Appreciate it, man.
ian crossland
Did the guy say, you know, that he wasn't on Coke?
tim pool
I didn't see it, but I did see Luke posted the picture where he's holding up the sign saying it was like at the airport.
Yeah, I'm not gonna repeat it.
ian crossland
That's a funny one.
tim pool
Jay says, in Starfield, I saw the pronouns in character creation and my first thought was, oh, the modders will deal with that in no time.
I don't stream, so no one will know, and thus no soapboxing.
The pronoun punks will grow up eventually.
So, apparently what I was told is, the game goes out of its way to create scenarios where your pronouns are used in front of you, which typically doesn't happen in the real world.
Like, We're here having a conversation.
In what context would I be talking about Ian and say he instead of just his name?
Or you?
Because it's second person.
Apparently I was told that they create scenarios where you will be in a conversation, Then two people will start talking to each other, and they'll be like, so how did this happen?
They'll go, he did it!
But it's like, but you're in the conversation.
You'd use their name.
So it's like, they're trying to make pronouns.
unidentified
Growing up, I was taught that that's rude.
If you're in the room with somebody, you do not use he or she, you use their name.
Right.
Yeah, so.
brett dasovic
Did you see the Az's rant?
Az from Heel vs Babyface, where he just breaks, he just goes on this two and a half minute rant.
tim pool
I skimmed it.
ian crossland
He didn't like Starfield?
brett dasovic
No, he just didn't like the major amalgamation of all of these things just beating him down.
And he's basically just saying, look, it's very modern day, it's very California.
tim pool
Have you played Baldur's Gate?
No.
brett dasovic
It's worse.
You can't get away from it in any form of media.
It's like what's going on right now is everyone's like, it's kind of like how you're talking about, whether you're talking about building culture, you can only, you can't only watch daily wire movies.
So like we, like people say, why are you go watch these movies?
Why do you go do this stuff?
This year, in my opinion, outside of some bad, the crap from Disney, I didn't find most of the movies this year to be all that Awful.
ian crossland
I've actually noticed there's some really good actors coming up.
Like things are starting to change.
I've been starting to see talent.
Either it's in me or people really are waking up.
brett dasovic
And it doesn't mean that the industry is good or that these companies are companies that you should like, but I'm just saying that it's, it's, there's, the game seemed worse for a lot of people.
terrence kentrell williams
I mean, I went to the movies.
I went to go the other day.
I went to see Equalizer 3.
But Denzel is a great guy though.
I love Denzel Washington.
brett dasovic
Favorite actor of all time.
ian crossland
Best actors on earth.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
brett dasovic
And that one's good.
That's a good movie, too.
tim pool
Let's read some more.
We got Marian Holtzman says, I met Terrence, really nice guy.
I also bought his pancake mix.
So light and fluffy, they're great.
I just want to eat a big stack of pancakes right now.
unidentified
Alright.
tim pool
Tech Roo says, I have an old Aunt Jemima bottle I'm just gonna refill with Sam's Club maple as a statement.
Gonna buy some Cousin T's soon, though.
Right on.
terrence kentrell williams
Thank you, thank you.
unidentified
Is she just out of work?
Whoever they used most recently for her face?
That's an old... It was a family that... Were they not getting royalties?
tim pool
They got cut off.
They were.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, they got cut off.
unidentified
So, the more I think about this, and the more you guys have discussed this tonight, I'm like, okay, so... They didn't want to pay her.
They used the summer of love as, yeah, just as an excuse just to fire this family.
tim pool
It doesn't explain Mrs. Butterworth's.
It doesn't explain Uncle Ben.
brett dasovic
Land O'Lakes.
tim pool
Yeah, I love that one.
They got rid of the Native American, but they kept the land.
terrence kentrell williams
Yep.
Classic!
ian crossland
Was Uncle Ben actually a slave?
terrence kentrell williams
No, he wasn't!
They have an issue, which is weird.
I'm telling you now with these black, uh, um, okay.
The thing is this, the people who bought the people who bought Jamama out and uncle Ben are their own.
They were owned by these big corporations that are ran by, uh, uh, white people, you know?
And, uh, people have, they're like, well, these white people own these, these black brands.
And I think people are thinking in their heads, These white people get a kick out of, you know, these black people on these food boxes as if they're cooking for them in their home.
It's so stupid.
brett dasovic
But also that they're profiting from it.
terrence kentrell williams
Yes, and they're profiting from it, yeah.
tim pool
If I woke up in the morning and I smelled delicious pancakes and maple syrup and cinnamon or whatever, and I ran downstairs and Aunt Becky was making pancakes, there's no issue whatsoever that Aunt Becky made me pancakes.
But if it's a black woman, all of a sudden now it's racist.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
That's racist!
terrence kentrell williams
Exactly.
tim pool
That really, really was shockingly offensive to me because, you know, I grew up with just like, it's your friendly Aunt Jemima, your family member who loves you and cares about you and has cooked you pancakes.
terrence kentrell williams
Exactly.
tim pool
And they're like, nah, you're not allowed to have black friends or family members, we're getting rid of that.
terrence kentrell williams
So many families gathered around a table to eat Aunt Jemima's pancakes.
And a lot of people have memories, like when they see that box, they think of their childhood memories.
You know, yeah.
tim pool
Now it's Cousin T's.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, now it's Cousin T's.
tim pool
Now people gotta, you know, if you've got kids, you should buy a box of this, and you should wake your kids up in the morning with fresh hot pancakes with butter and syrup, and the Cousin T's box is right there.
terrence kentrell williams
And I'd be damned if they tried to take my face off.
They can't, because I mean, they gotta get me to do it.
tim pool
You made the company, it's your company, it's your face.
They're mad at you about it.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, exactly.
brett dasovic
They're gonna try to buy you out just to shut it down.
tim pool
Yeah.
Alright, yeah.
Cain Abel says Trump does need to win, but we need more than just him.
We need regular people, constitutionalists, to replace the Uniparty, run for office, and replace the RINOs and Democrats in every race.
Agreed.
We need local people running for local office.
We need to know who our local reps are.
terrence kentrell williams
Tim Poole for Senate?
brett dasovic
Eh, never.
ian crossland
I agree with the super chat.
I don't want to do it, but that's a problem.
I don't want to serve my country as a political officer right now.
I just don't want to.
terrence kentrell williams
But I do think people should start holding the people in office right now accountable.
I see too many people saying stuff like, hey, Tim Pool, you should be doing more.
Terrence, or JP Sears, or David Harris, or Lori, you guys should be doing more.
Have that same energy with Kevin McCarthy, he's the one running a show right now!
tim pool
Here's the thing too, it's like, yo, you're producing content all the time, you're speaking out all the time, and you launched a company to challenge a woke brand.
We produce a show.
I do a morning show and a nightly show.
Hey, look, man, we're doing a lot.
I don't expect anyone else to do anything except the bare minimum, right?
That means if you're somebody who's watching and you're thinking, what can I do?
Oh, it's really easy.
You just got to stop buying Pearl Milling Company pancakes and Bud Light.
That's the easiest thing ever.
Just buy Cousin T's and Casprew, and then you're helping support the work we do, and you're helping us expand.
I'll tell you, you're talking about all the products you're going to be launching and expanding into.
The purpose of what we're doing with Casper is not because we're trying to make a ton of money, it's because we want to replace woke coffee shops that are putting up all the weird Pride Month stuff, and just have family, community-oriented small businesses.
I'll put it this way, it's like...
I'm hoping that Casper will be like Chick-fil-A but for coffee.
Chick-fil-A is a franchise, but you're only allowed to own one of them.
We don't want a corporation starting, opening a hundred franchises, and then you get bad quality and weird corporate policies.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
None of that.
None of that.
The purpose of this is that Families can come.
They know that when they do come here, there's not gonna be any weird, creepy, inappropriate stuff.
No adult performances for kids.
There's never gonna be cartoons playing that have weird, creepy stuff like mastectomy scars.
You know that if you come in on Saturday morning, when we do our Saturday morning cartoons events, this is what we're doing.
I'll tell you this.
We were, the plan with this Coffee Shepherd, why we want to do it, comes from what I called Saturday Morning Cartoons, where, and this is inspired by Jack Posobiec, Saturday morning, 7am, the family comes in, they bring their kids, there's a breakfast buffet, the kids watch approved family cartoons, cartoons like we used to watch with good messaging, and none of the weird stuff you're seeing today, like the Blue's Clues Mastectomy Scars thing.
Yeah, and this is for 5 year olds, it's ridiculous.
The parents socialize.
They meet each other.
They build community with each other.
They have breakfast.
They break bread.
Kids meet each other.
The kids socialize.
You build community in a way that churches used to do.
And if people want to go to church, they should keep doing it.
But this is for a lot of people who are missing that.
And we'll have Cousin T's pancakes when we do it.
Awesome.
But this is the goal.
I'm hoping that when we launch these coffee shops, not only Do you have the busy businesswoman, on her way to a business lunch, saying, I need to grab a coffee before the meeting, pull up on Google Maps, the coffee shop pops up at a strip mall, she comes into Casper Coffee, she's buying her drink, and on the TV Steven Crowder's playing.
And so she's hearing him play a clip from Joe Biden doing something, and now she knows.
Having that physical, cultural penetration.
That's what I'm hoping for Casper, that's why we're doing it.
So the bare minimum for everybody is, Watch Sound of Freedom, listen to Richman North of Richman, don't buy Bud Light, shop at, uh, download Public Square.
It's the easiest thing in the world to just be like, all I have to do is buy a different thing, and that's the bare minimum.
You can do more, you can register people to vote, you can look up, uh, you know, Speech, uh, political initiatives in terms of, uh, advocating for policy or volunteering with, with politicians you believe in or something like that.
But really the bare minimum is this parallel economy and shifting the cultural narrative and taking the power away from these institutions that are woke and trying to poison the mind of our kids and next generation.
ian crossland
Start a channel and speak your mind with internet video.
It's freaking so powerful and it's relatively cheap.
tim pool
Or, or get, get people to sign up for Twitter for X. This is the, this is the big one.
Instead of trying to convince people you're right and arguing about it, say to them, oh, I'm not familiar with that.
Are you on X?
Can you send it to me?
And then when they're like, I'm not, be like, oh, well, sign in and then DM me that video.
I didn't see that.
Now these people are signing up and they're getting exposed to information they don't get through the corporate press.
terrence kentrell williams
But you know, now Elon did mention that very soon you don't even have to have an account You can send people a link to whatever and they can watch it.
Without an account?
Without an account.
You're going to have access to see things on X. Logged out viewership.
tim pool
That makes sense.
If you have the app, You can curate a list of people to follow without signing up for the app.
ian crossland
I always thought it was a greedy tactic when developers were like, no, you have to log in to see anything.
And I get the greed, like we need people to log in because it improves our numbers, outward facing, and then we'll get more investment, people take us more seriously.
But reality is, I mean, you're going to get ten times more views logged out.
tim pool
Let's read some more.
Papa Romano says, Terrence, do we have a discount code for tonight?
Stepping up your game with that chocolate chip mix, I bought a bunch as Christmas gifts.
It was a hit.
terrence kentrell williams
Well, there's actually a discount code on the website right now.
tim pool
There's one on Public Square though, right?
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, and there's one on Public Square.
You can use discount code COUSIN20 for 20% off.
And there's also a discount code that's on the website.
It's still a Labor Day code.
tim pool
Well, I'll tell you what.
It's really easy.
Download Public Square.
Search for Cous- Sign up, search for Cousin Tees, and you will see they have a specific discount code.
But uh, I'm not going to say it, because I want you to download Public Square.
Dude, I love Public Square so much.
They're sponsoring our show in Miami, they're awesome dudes, and this is- this is the winningest thing ever.
It's all of these brands.
I mean, look at this.
They got a picture of pancakes right on the front page.
ian crossland
And he just did it.
Seifert, dude, he just was like, it's happening.
unidentified
Well, the best part, the best part about Public Square in my opinion is... And you can use code USA25.
terrence kentrell williams
Just go to CousinTees.com and there's a discount code on there.
So USA25.
Cousin 20.
You can use Public Square 20.
Cuz cuz in 20 you can use public square
unidentified
20 yeah, yeah, I was gonna say the best part about public squares like forget about the wokeness for a second
Like, I don't know if I'm even connected to any of the brands I'm purchasing at the grocery store.
I don't know who owns them.
I don't know who started them.
I don't know the backstory.
Like, it's probably a better idea to actually know the backstory and know that, hey, you're the guy behind Cousin T's brand.
It's like, I don't know who's behind Aunt Jemima's.
Like, I know she's the face of the product before they changed it, but who started It's part of revelation, man.
ian crossland
We're revealing who runs these companies.
tim pool
That's what apocalypse means.
It means revelation.
It means new knowledge.
ian crossland
That's what's happening.
tim pool
Let's read some more.
Lars says, Cornell West sounded like a Biden supporter today on Jimmy Dore.
Jimmy never looked so disappointed.
Oh, brutal.
That's a bummer.
Oh, man.
All right, Patrick Bannon says, the view is really only on In Jail.
That's one of the shows black men and women in jail watch.
Not many younger people watch TV anymore.
Is that true?
I would be surprised, to be honest.
brett dasovic
Did you see that CNN is trying, that Warner Brothers is thinking about putting CNN push-ups, like push notifications on Max?
ian crossland
Oh, God.
terrence kentrell williams
Oh, geez.
brett dasovic
Can you imagine?
You're trying to watch Doctor Who or something and then there's just some CNN propaganda that just flashes.
terrence kentrell williams
Nobody wants to watch CNN.
They are forcing that channel onto people.
Just like at the airports, they kill me with it.
It's CNN everywhere.
It's gone now?
Oh, thank God.
Thank God.
tim pool
Alright, what do we got?
Let's see.
Keegan Mazza says, first time Super Chatter long time viewer, you inspired me to start a sub stack.
Consider this a job application.
An article that I wrote actually sparked a local protest in New Hampshire where the police barred citizens from entering a public library.
ian crossland
Wow.
tim pool
Crazy, man.
See, that's the influence you can have when you speak out.
We've got big news coming soon.
We're relaunching SCNR, a.k.a.
Subverse, so anybody who invested in that.
The company has never ceased.
It has just been dealing with legal issues and will resume really, really soon.
We're constantly working on the background on procedural software and policy, but we're getting ready to relaunch everything and we're really excited for what's to come.
Fear not.
And for a lot of people, they're upset.
They were like, why aren't you saying what's happening with it?
It was a lawsuit.
We were literally barred from talking about it.
Like, there's nothing I can do.
And it's crazy, because people are pissed off.
They're like, we invested in this.
And it's like, dude, there's literally no response.
It's like, you're in a lawsuit.
You're not allowed to talk about it.
It's like, OK.
But good news is, it's kicking back up.
And we got some really big updates coming soon.
And I'm really excited for that.
So it's going to be really fun.
Mary Holtzman says Liberty Safe just Budweiser'd themselves.
Brendan Dilley talked about it today on his show.
Yeah, well, you know, it's unfortunate.
I don't even care about the politics of it.
It's like there's a backdoor.
Baron of Grey Matter says you guys are ridiculous.
Liberty Safe's back panel access is user changeable.
You buy the safe, change the default code, it is secure.
Come on, use your head.
The argument is that the code was changed and they had a backdoor code to the machine.
I suppose it's possible that the guy bought it with the default code and never inputted it or never changed or anything, which I really doubt.
ian crossland
Or it sent the new password to the company.
terrence kentrell williams
Well, the moral of the story is Liberty Safe shouldn't have gave the FBI access.
tim pool
Not without a court order.
terrence kentrell williams
Not without a court order.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yep.
unidentified
Yeah, I don't know if he's saying that there's two, like, pads on this safe, because he's saying a back panel.
But either way, yeah, your safe company should not have any type of access to it.
Once you buy it, that's yours to protect your property.
tim pool
If the argument is that a dude bought a safe and left the default code there, and the company just knew his code, They shouldn't have given it in the first place.
They should have waited for a court order.
But in that regard, then you're dealing with, it's the person at fault.
However, it would seem, they said their policy is to give up the codes if there's a warrant.
That makes it seem, the Occam's razor is, they have a backdoor to these machines.
Which is, it's not atypical.
It's something companies do.
Look at this.
Joel McKinney says all safes do this because people die.
Is that because people could get locked inside of them or something?
ian crossland
No, I think they mean that the sole owner of the password is going to die one day, and then you can't... I think that's too bad.
Similar with social media accounts, I wonder, because no one has my data for, like, any of my social media accounts.
But I see people, they're like, the user has passed away.
terrence kentrell williams
If the sole... I mean, if the owner dies...
I mean, if he didn't write down the codes for his family, he didn't want them to have in the first place.
ian crossland
Bury him with the safe.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
Like the Egyptians.
If you have an old school safe with a combination or a key, and you die and no one knows where it is, well, that's too bad.
I don't see why you create a backdoor.
unidentified
I can see the safety thing if it's like a huge industrial safe, like the Seed Vault.
That might have a backdoor, you know, just in case someone gets trapped in there.
tim pool
Elijah Butterfield says, I used to work for Liberty Safe down in Payson, Utah.
It's an... let's just say awful company.
ian crossland
Really?
tim pool
They work their employees and prison workers like robots for low wages.
The same day I left was the same day some guy got broken in half because an 800-pound safe fell on him.
I always assumed he... I always thought he died.
Yikes!
ian crossland
Damn, dude!
So they use prison labor?
tim pool
I don't know.
terrence kentrell williams
Low-key, the people who run the company, they were probably happy to give those codes to the FBI.
They were probably happy to see someone get locked up for January 6th.
Probably.
brett dasovic
More prison labor for them.
terrence kentrell williams
Keyword, probably.
unidentified
So weird.
tim pool
Alright, John Jones says, Hi Terrence, just ordered some of your original syrup and pancake mix.
Can't wait to try it.
terrence kentrell williams
Thank you, John.
Thank you.
tim pool
Right on.
Beautiful Bacon says, I just put in an order for Cousin T's pancake mix and pure maple syrup.
Looking forward to a delicious breakfast in my near future.
Cheers, Terrence.
Keep rocking them, brother.
You know what I think we should do here?
terrence kentrell williams
Thank y'all so much, but y'all gonna have to stop telling Tim this.
Tim gonna send me an invoice.
ian crossland
Your pancakes mix is selling out on the website.
terrence kentrell williams
Y'all, please!
tim pool
Is it?
ian crossland
Yeah, Cousin T's Buttermilk 2-Pack is sold out.
And the 4-Pack's also sold out.
Get your Cousin T's now!
terrence kentrell williams
Well, I'm about to go update it.
ian crossland
Oh, good.
Those blueberries are available.
That looks good.
Blueberry gourmet.
And the 6-Pack's still up.
Earlier, the four-pack was sold out and the other one wasn't, so it just sold out.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, that's because the inventory levels were not updated.
unidentified
Open it up.
ian crossland
So if you did sell out, would you just still take the orders and then just put them on back order?
terrence kentrell williams
No, so I have plenty of pancakes, so I know how much was on there, and we're not out.
unidentified
Oh, good.
terrence kentrell williams
It just needs to be updated.
And I'm doing that right here on my phone.
ian crossland
Nice, dude!
terrence kentrell williams
Right here.
ian crossland
Being a business owner's fun.
tim pool
Everybody listen, Terrence is challenging you.
He claims that you can't sell out his inventory.
You gotta prove him wrong.
Just buy all of his pancakes.
ian crossland
Hey, look, man.
tim pool
I want Cousin T's to take over.
I want to see him in every supermarket.
I want these woke corporations to know that when they play dirty games, they win stupid prizes.
So if they want to insult us, if they want to lie to us, if they want to manipulate us, we can easily find, through beautiful capitalism, alternatives.
terrence kentrell williams
Yep.
ian crossland
Dude, Terrence, do you make the recipes yourself, or do you work with people that are really good at it?
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, so I work with the manufacturing company out in New York, so they help me come up with the mix.
ian crossland
You tell them, like, I'm looking for a blueberry.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, I want gourmet.
I tried out.
Hey, can you help me?
You know, I'm not in the lab myself, you know, because I'm not a food scientist.
ian crossland
That'd be a funny video if you go to the lab.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, I'm not in the lab myself because I'm not a food scientist.
tim pool
We're trying to do, what I really, really want is an MCT powder, protein powder mix.
So before or after an exercise, I'm getting whey, which is readily available, bioavailability,
high bioavailability, whatever it's called, and MCT for energy.
And typically you can get one or the other.
The problem we run into is we go to these companies that do sourcing and all of their general products
have awful stuff in them, really nasty stuff.
And so we're like, okay, I'm not interested in Splenda or whatever, sucralose, in anything I'm eating.
I wouldn't sell that.
It's challenging.
There's a lot of people who will eat garbage and don't care.
And you want to make something that you believe in, that you want.
and it's harder to get or it's more expensive.
And then it's like, man, some people can't afford it.
So that's one of the things holding us back from doing protein is that,
oh, we can do, as a small company, if we do our own formulations, it's expensive, like you were saying.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, it is.
tim pool
And if we want to do the bulk cheaper numbers, then you're getting weird preservatives and Splenda and
stuff.
And I'm like, can we not do that?
And they're like, oh, but then you got to do a proprietary formulation in the lab.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tim pool
And that small batch, hard to produce and very expensive.
terrence kentrell williams
And you know, what's crazy is, you know, I mean, I've done so much research.
Some labs and some manufacturing companies They will not let you own the ingredients.
They will do whatever you want.
They'll customize it.
They will make whatever recipe you want.
But they like to hold on to it so you keep coming back to them buying it and buying it.
Some of them don't want to do a one-time fee of like $10,000.
No!
We want Tim to keep buying this powder from us!
Right.
No, we own the ingredients.
Yes, you pick them all out, but we put it together and we want to keep it, you know?
ian crossland
So they keep the ingredients on site with them?
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, basically, you don't really.
Sometimes they don't.
Some of these manufacturing companies, they don't want you to own it outright.
Here's what we got to do.
ian crossland
The recipe.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, they want to keep it for themselves.
Because let's say you're selling millions of boxes.
They can make more money by you continuing to buy batches from them instead of them taking a one-time fee.
tim pool
So we're opening the Cast Brew Coffee shop, and it should be, we're hoping that maybe by just after Halloween, we're getting delayed because regulations and stuff.
Like, we gotta fix certain things, and then you fix one thing, and they're like, oh wait, you gotta fix that thing.
But how cool would it be if you've got a Cast Brew Coffee, you got a Cousin T's breakfast shop, and a Papa Jack's Pizza Shack all right there.
ian crossland
Just 24-7, man.
tim pool
And then we create a strip in a city with all these businesses as the launching pad.
It'll be like a tourist attraction, basically.
terrence kentrell williams
You know what?
It can be done.
tim pool
We're doing it.
terrence kentrell williams
It can be done.
tim pool
It can be done easily, I mean, especially around here.
terrence kentrell williams
Nothing is impossible.
tim pool
We're gonna make it happen.
terrence kentrell williams
Nothing is impossible.
unidentified
It'd be cool too, since you said it's a franchise, to have whoever starts the franchise implement the local culture into it somehow.
You know, like if in Texas, maybe the employees wear cowboy hats.
That's the first silly thing off the top of my head.
tim pool
That's stereotypical and very offensive to Texans.
unidentified
Ten-gallon hat, man.
It is annoying to go to Starbucks and it's like every single one is the exact same.
tim pool
I disagree.
unidentified
You like that.
terrence kentrell williams
I think that's good because you could have some crazy person who buys a franchise and they're doing all kinds of stuff there and you don't like it.
tim pool
We go out, we're driving around and I'm like, I would like some coffee.
I like coffee with heavy cream in it.
Starbucks is basically the only place ever that has it.
And there's some small cafes, you get lucky.
I know that if I go to Starbucks, they're gonna have it.
I don't like Starbucks as a massive multinational corporation.
I'd rather support a mom-and-pop shop.
So, I'll typically make that choice.
Out here, we've got a woke coffee shop and a Starbucks, so I go to Starbucks instead.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, you're right about the heavy cream because when I was doing keto, all I put in my coffee was heavy cream and some monk fruit or stevia.
tim pool
That's what I love.
Also, I want to give a shout out to Jocko's Mulk.
Best protein powder I've ever had.
It's monk fruit sweetened.
It's super delicious.
There's no garbage in it.
I'm super impressed.
And a big fan of Jocko, so super cool that he's doing something good and healthy.
I'm a big fan.
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Terrence, do you want to shout anything else out?
terrence kentrell williams
So, you can go to CousinTees.com and get some pancakes and syrup and use the discount code USA25.
It's a discount code on the website or PublicSquare20.
And you can go watch my podcast on Rumble, the Terrence K. Williams podcast.
Watch it on YouTube too, but you know, they may not update you when my podcast come out, but you know, so yeah.
Thank y'all so much.
Thank you, Tim.
tim pool
Right on.
unidentified
All right.
brett dasovic
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Come hang out with us.
ian crossland
Terrence, you got a book I just found on Cousin T's.
You can also purchase it.
terrence kentrell williams
Oh, yeah!
So, Tim, I need to... Actually, I'm going to send all y'all a book.
The book is called From the Foster House to the White House, and it's just a book about me going... It's a book about me going through foster care and about everything like that I went through and overcame, and then going to the White House to meet President Trump.
Now, the book is not political, but, you know, it's about the American dream.
And the book came out in 2020, but the book is still for sale.
And I hope it inspires a lot of foster kids and all Americans all around the world.
All around America.
ian crossland
Thanks for making those bomb-ass pancakes earlier.
terrence kentrell williams
They smell good.
ian crossland
Catch you later, brother.
Terrence Williams, ladies and gentlemen.
unidentified
What's up, everybody?
You guys can follow me at kellenpdl.
Man, I'm hungry.
I need to get some of those pancakes.
I'm jealous that you guys got to have them earlier.
tim pool
I just had a small bite, to be honest.
unidentified
Still.
tim pool
It was good.
unidentified
They look good.
But yeah, thanks, guys.
tim pool
Alright everybody, we'll see you all over at TimCast.com in a few minutes.
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