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Timcast IRL - Tucker Carlson Says Democrats Will Start WW3 With Russia To STOP TRUMP w/Joshua Smith
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tim pool
Tucker Carlson appeared on the Adam Crow's podcast and he warned the Democrats will do
anything to stop Trump.
But they're not going to do lockdowns, they're not going to do COVID.
In fact, he says they're going to start war with Russia in an effort to defeat Trump.
And that makes sense.
When presidents are facing war, they tend to receive substantial support.
But I'm not entirely convinced.
We'll see.
The way Joe Biden screwed up Afghanistan, I'm not sure people really trust his foreign policy.
And if they do start a war, Donald Trump will promise to end it diplomatically, and that may actually work with the American public.
Tucker Carlson also said that Barack Obama is gay, likes having adult relations with males, and smokes crack in that same interview.
I guess we'll talk about that, and there's a bunch of other stories, too.
We got Secretaries of State are ramping up the effort to remove Trump from the ballot, so things should get pretty wild.
Of course, now we've got the left is claiming The Maui fires were caused by white people.
I know, I know.
It's hard to say, but it's time everyone admits it.
Colonialism?
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tim pool
That's what they're saying.
They're saying white coloners destroyed Hawaii.
Whatever.
We'll talk about that, too.
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unidentified
Hell yeah.
tim pool
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Joshua Smith!
unidentified
Hey!
joshua smith
Thanks so much for having me, Tim.
I appreciate it.
tim pool
Who are ya?
joshua smith
I'm a candidate for president of the United States of America for the Libertarian Party.
Some are calling me the preeminent candidate.
I've been an at-large and vice chair on the Libertarian National Committee since 2018 in one form or another.
Came from the Ron Paul revolution in 2008, worked on his campaign, and then he, of course, endorsed me famously in 2020 for chair of the Libertarian National Committee.
Wow.
That's where I'm at.
It was the pinnacle of my life next to my children.
tim pool
Are you going to have Michael Malice be your press secretary?
joshua smith
I have said that I will force him by court order, if need be.
tim pool
Because Dave's not going to do it, so whoever does has to get Michael Malice to be the press secretary.
unidentified
Absolutely.
tim pool
It has to happen.
joshua smith
I agree.
There's nobody better for it.
Absolutely.
tim pool
Right on, man.
Well, it should be a lot of fun.
Thanks for hanging out.
Phil's back!
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Levante, lead singer of All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
unidentified
Dude.
phil labonte
Extraordinary.
ian crossland
It looks like you put on a hell of a show last weekend.
phil labonte
You know, I did.
I had a little bit of an event.
My friend's band called me up.
The band's called Five Finger Death Punch.
Ivan, their singer, was ill and so they called me and asked me if I could fill in for them.
They were opening for a small band called Metallica.
And it was sick.
unidentified
Dude, it was in the round you guys shot in that huge stadium.
tim pool
80,000 people?
phil labonte
More than Taylor Swift, yeah.
tim pool
I mean, it's Metallica, obviously.
phil labonte
The biggest metal band of all time.
tim pool
And you got to open.
unidentified
Whipping your body around like a rubber hose, dude.
phil labonte
I mean, it's super cool that I am able to help out my friends.
The guys in Five Finger Death Punch, I've been friends with those guys for years and years.
I've known Ivan since he was in Molde Grater in 2004.
We did some touring so I've known those guys for ages so it's super cool that like I can go ahead and step in and help them out and and make sure that the show goes on because you know it was a record-breaking show was a big deal like they made history as the biggest show that ever happened at the place and I got to come in and I look like this you know like the the guy that comes in to save the day so if you haven't seen it there's clips on your Twitter and on Instagram it is That's wild, man.
There will be a bigger video coming because Five Finger had like pro footage and stuff, so we're getting that.
ian crossland
Great to meet you, Josh.
I'm looking forward to talking about politics tonight.
joshua smith
Yeah, absolutely.
ian crossland
I want to echo the Timcast IRL event in Miami, which I'll be at.
We'll be on stage.
And we had so much fun in Austin last time talking to people after the show, too.
I got a chance to stick around and meet people.
So if you guys ever want to get out to one of these shows, this Miami show is going to be lit.
Come on down, man.
joshua smith
And Miami's already lit.
tim pool
It is, and we are planning an elite members only get-together, so that's for the elite members at TimCast.com.
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We give people access to the app before it comes out.
We're probably going to be releasing the code for the video game to our elite members to just do whatever they want with.
And so it's kind of just like a club.
But we're going to have a special event for our elite members.
ian crossland
I think the best place to get tickets is at TimCast.com.
Up at the top, there's a banner.
And I don't know if there's another direct link, but that's how you get it.
So hit it!
tim pool
Right on.
We got Kellen pressing the buttons.
unidentified
Yes, I'm back.
My name is Kellen.
And yeah, dude.
October?
Miami in October?
I feel like that's one of the best times to be there.
So it should be a lot of fun.
Buy your tickets.
Come down.
See Ian on the beach.
You know, that's where he'll be.
tim pool
It's gonna be fun.
ian crossland
Shirtless.
tim pool
Alright, let's jump into the news.
Tucker Carlson predicts hot war with Russia to defeat Trump in election.
He was speaking to Adam Carolla and he said, They will do anything to win.
So how do they do that?
They're not going to do COVID again.
Whoever on the right is afraid they're going to do COVID and mask mandates, they're not going to do that.
Carlson told Adam Carolla.
They can't do that.
They've already been exposed.
That won't work.
There's going to be... No, what are they going to do?
They're going to go to war with Russia.
It's what they're going to do.
There will be a hot war between the United States and Russia in the next year.
Yikes.
That's, uh, strong words coming from Tucker.
And it is a contrast to what we've talked about, what many have said, because we are seeing mask mandates come back.
joshua smith
Yes.
tim pool
However, he may be right.
ian crossland
The COVID game is played.
I think I agree with him there, that it's just, it's going to be with us forever now.
It's going to be mutating and it's, you're going to have lesser dangerous strains, lesser painful ones.
And then every once in a while, one will mutate.
That's like kind of hard, but there will be like, Oh, but it's like the flu.
tim pool
And that's not the question.
The question is, will they try to use it for political reasons?
ian crossland
I watched him interview Donald Trump last week.
I don't know if you guys saw the interview.
At the very end, he's like, so, do you think there's going to be civil unrest?
And he's doing that Sullivan nod where he's nodding.
And I'm like, geez, what is he trying to incite?
And Trump is just like, I don't want to even answer that.
You could tell.
And Tucker's like, civil unrest?
And he's nodding?
I don't know why he said that.
That we're going to war with Russia.
I don't know why he said that.
phil labonte
Probably because of the fact that there's a war in Ukraine and we're funding it.
tim pool
And we're at war with Russia already, but it's not formalized.
Let me help you out.
Let me clarify.
They don't want war with Russia.
ian crossland
They want a proxy.
tim pool
Let me help you out.
I'll clarify for Tucker Carlson.
They're not going to war with Russia.
He's wrong.
What he should have said is, they're going to formally announce we have been at war with Russia and try and act like it's just begun.
ian crossland
I'm concerned about total war.
I can understand the proxy war, like Vietnam.
We fought the communists in Vietnam.
We didn't want to bomb Moscow because we didn't want Washington to get wiped off the map.
And if we go to war with Russia, we're going to annihilate each of our capitalists.
tim pool
We are at war with Russia.
ian crossland
And then China will take over the world.
Or India and China will take over.
tim pool
Slow down there.
We're at war with Russia right now.
We already are.
And so what do you guys think will happen in the election cycle?
joshua smith
Well, they're definitely going to bring the COVIDs coming back.
I mean, I don't know.
I mean, I already see people talking about mask mandates at school, at schools.
They're definitely going to start pushing that.
tim pool
Joe Biden's talking about a new vaccine to be funded?
joshua smith
Yes, a whole new one that's going to work this time, he says.
tim pool
It's a weird thing to say, and it's inappropriate, mind you.
joshua smith
Yeah, yes.
tim pool
Inappropriate for Joe Biden to say that.
I mean, it actually is.
joshua smith
I don't think Joe Biden cares what's inappropriate at this point.
I honestly think that Joe Biden is like a snicker kid right in front of you.
He's much like Weekend at Bernie's right now.
Someone's holding him up with strings and walking him around the stage.
I honestly, I don't know.
I think that they're going to try to push the mandates back.
I think they're going to try to mess with people's jobs again.
I really do.
But I think that, you know, the American public, many of the people who fell for it first time are not going to fall for it again.
tim pool
But so, so the way we've described it is, or what we've predicted.
They will issue guidelines.
They'll do something like you cannot discriminate against someone who seeks, who decides to quarantine.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
But no one's forced to quarantine.
But then businesses will need money to pay for employees who don't want to come into work and don't have to.
Then they'll issue another kind of PPP or whatever.
The guidelines, because they know they can't do a hard lockdown, justify an expansion of universal mail-in voting.
I wouldn't be surprised if they outright legalize mass ballot harvesting under the guise of COVID.
joshua smith
There's no doubt that that's, that's part of this push.
I mean, they, they definitely want, they want mail-in voting as much as possible.
Look, the Democrats, the Democrats are going to do anything they possibly can to win.
Uh, I just don't think they can do it with Biden, but, but COVID is not out of the realm of possibility to force this election to be done through mail-in voting.
ian crossland
I don't think that we're not talking in a vacuum right now.
Millions of people are listening to us, and if we make enough noise ahead of time and shock people out of the stupor, they won't even get off the ground.
joshua smith
We have to.
unidentified
Agreed.
joshua smith
I spent two full years rallying against this stuff on my smaller podcast, and definitely the big podcasters, the big shows have got to push this mass noncompliance.
tim pool
It was, I think, Scott Adams?
Scott Adams said, the first company to do this, we must bankrupt.
joshua smith
Yes, absolutely.
tim pool
Stop buying all their products and bud light and target them in the exact same way.
ian crossland
I read that Vanguard and BlackRock are getting out of ESG.
They're down to like 3%.
tim pool
Yeah, but that just means that they're looking for another thing to call it.
joshua smith
They're finding something else.
Yeah, absolutely.
ian crossland
Oh, interesting.
phil labonte
They're not going to give up on the goal.
joshua smith
No.
phil labonte
Right.
And that's something that people on the right and people that are involved in whatever you want to call it, the culture war or whatever, need to understand.
Even if like Blackrock and Vanguard and all these, these, um, investment bankers and stuff, they, they get out of the ESG, uh, model.
They're going to be looking for something else to achieve the same goals because they're ideologically.
joshua smith
Well, you made a good point there with the, with the fact that, um, they're not gonna, they're not gonna change the goal.
The goal is always going to stay the same.
And that's what worries me about the Russia thing, right?
Is that if COVID doesn't work, there's a damn good chance that they use a hot water.
ian crossland
What do you think is the goal with Russia?
joshua smith
The goal with Russia right now?
Honestly, I think that it's to push them towards the one world government.
I mean, if you want to get really deep into Alex Jones territory.
tim pool
But hold on, there are two dominant global factions, NATO and BRICS.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
What's the idea?
We need to crush them because BRICS is our enemy?
joshua smith
No.
tim pool
I don't... But you're not gonna get Russia to fall under NATO influence, because they're...
phil labonte
They're not going to. They just want Russia to be weak.
tim pool
Right, right.
I think it may actually just be more so, they're not thinking about it in terms of we must defeat Russia because Russia's the enemy, it's we must reduce BRICS by 7%.
Sure, yeah, sure.
joshua smith
And they are 7% of the population, I mean 7, Russia's like 7%.
ian crossland
What concerns me is the people calling shots are like, and if we reduce the United States power by 20% in order to reduce Russia by 7%, then the Swiss bankers win.
phil labonte
Yeah, but we've talked about this though, there's a lot of, in my opinion, there's substance to the argument that the established order right now is changing, the whole lucidities trafficking that we talk about, and it seems to me, and I've heard the argument, I forget where I heard it, but it seems reasonable to me that the goal of the people that are in the WEF and stuff like that, and the UN and stuff, the goal is to Do a soft landing with the United States as China rises, and the intent in this is to keep the whole world out of World War III, but if they can have a soft landing and lower the US's living standards in a way that doesn't cause too much chaos in the United States, and also at the same time support China so they can raise their level of influence and stuff.
And manage that without having the US and China go to war.
That, I think, is the goal.
Because the Chinese model, in my opinion, is what the people like the WEF and stuff, is what they want to institute in the West.
Because they have essentially ultimate control over the population.
tim pool
Have you guys seen that Eugenia Cooney video?
She's the social media influencer who weighs probably 13 pounds.
Literally, maybe like 40 pounds and on the verge of death, anorexic.
And she's apparently got like 8 million hits on TikTok.
People are begging her to get help and all that stuff.
But it just, it reminds me of what the war actually is.
Right now, you have influence from China to destroy the younger generations in this country.
These kids, I saw one story already, someone said that their younger sibling stopped eating because they wanted to look like Eugenia.
ian crossland
It's the opium war, except they're not using actual physical opium.
They're using technology.
tim pool
They are, though.
I mean, that's coming to the southern border, so that's happening, too.
joshua smith
Does China want to destroy America?
You think that China wants to destroy America, or they just want to weaken it so they can have 10% more power in the Pacific?
tim pool
I think right now, what the global powers are looking at is, I just want them to be weaker than us, so we have the dominant position.
It's almost like a sumo match, right?
But it could eventually lead to a fistfight.
And it seems like that's where we're going.
Now, as for Tucker Carlson predicting hot war with Russia, I think it's funny because if you actually talked to him about it and said, right, but we're at war with Russia, he'd say, well, yes, of course.
And then he'd expand upon the idea, the idea being the U.S.
will formally declare war or they'll find a reason to do it.
And it's going to be some kind of false flag.
joshua smith
Not with Congress, though.
tim pool
Of course not!
It's going to be unilateral.
It's going to be a NATO Article 5.
ian crossland
So a false flag.
This is what they did in Vietnam.
They did a false flag to get us to go to Vietnam to fight a proxy war against Russia.
Right.
So you're thinking now they're going to do a false flag to get us to go fight the mainland Russia?
Like, yo, we're going to invade Russia kind of thing?
unidentified
I know.
phil labonte
The idea of the United States putting boots into, like, Russia?
No.
ian crossland
What about on Alaska?
I mean it's what is it like a hundred miles away from Russia?
phil labonte
No, there's not even up there.
ian crossland
50 miles or something?
phil labonte
There's nothing strategic up there.
tim pool
The Aleutian Islands stretch all the way, like very very close to Japan.
phil labonte
But think about, listen, think about what you're talking about though.
Like if Russia invades Alaska, right, they have to go over the Rockies to get to mainland to the lower 48.
tim pool
Or they have to invade Canada.
phil labonte
Yeah, they have to go through Canada, and they have to go over- like, this is not- They're gonna be slipping on maple syrup.
ian crossland
Yeah, I mean- Getting frozen in the ice.
phil labonte
Listen, I've traveled through the Rockies out there.
You blow up passes, and you shut down any advance.
Okay?
You can't drive tanks and stuff like that through the mountains without roads.
That's just not happening.
ian crossland
Could they take the coast?
phil labonte
It is not happening like that.
tim pool
Fallout 3.
On the flip side- China invades Alaska for resources.
You can take all of Alaska, but I mean... I mean, how many people are in Alaska?
phil labonte
There's like 250,000 in the state, I think.
tim pool
We'd have no choice but to respond with a maximum military force.
ian crossland
Oh yeah, the nukes would fly if there was an invasion.
tim pool
I don't think nukes would fly.
ian crossland
There's no waiting around.
You decimate the opponent in that situation.
tim pool
They do not invade.
Let's get specific.
In the event that China, Russia, or whatever, these BRICS powers, invade Alaska, That's a long shot for a variety of reasons, but in the event they do, I do not believe that ICBM nuclear weapons will be launched over that.
However, don't be surprised if you see...
Nuclear artillery.
phil labonte
Yeah, you know, to be honest with you, like, not that I, not that this, the idea of anyone invading Alaska is more compelling now that we're discussing it, but if there were a situation like that, Alaska is the type of place where using tactical nuclear weapons would make sense.
There's nobody around.
joshua smith
It's a very small population.
phil labonte
Yeah, there's nobody around, and if you see a column moving, you know, take them out.
ian crossland
I meant offensive, like counter-offense, tactical nuclear weapons.
On Russian cities.
If the Russians invade the United States, they're begged for death.
tim pool
But hold on.
This is the problem with nukes.
The Russian government attacks, so your response is to vaporize a million innocent civilians.
unidentified
Right?
tim pool
We can't do that.
And that's why I don't think the nukes go flying.
This idea that in the event of war we all start firing nukes at our cities is just like...
They're trying to control the cities.
They're trying to control resources.
Nobody wants to, I would say for the most part, most people don't want to rule over the ashes, but they don't want to be subjugated either.
The only reason you would see nukes fly is to destroy military targets.
So you may see New York in some way devastated by a massive nuclear attack or some kind of advanced attack.
I believe it's more likely at this point, civilian targets will be hit by massive cyber attacks.
What we saw with the ransomware, Where you have, like, the train system?
The whole network goes down because all the computers get encrypted instantly?
unidentified
The pipeline?
Yeah, how do they take out Nord Stream?
who took out Nord Stream?
tim pool
How did US intelligence and western powers take out Nord Stream?
ian crossland
Just like that.
A lot of conventional explosives, nanothermites, stuff like that.
phil labonte
Apparently the pipeline is encased in concrete.
It's not just a tube.
It's a big deal.
It's underwater, you blow it up.
tim pool
Yeah, you don't need a nuclear bomb to blow up a pipe, right?
But what I think we'd be more likely to see is, Calum mentioned it, there was that cyber attack on that pipeline.
And that basically shut down gas supply in the southeast.
And people don't remember that.
It's kind of like, you know, that could be war.
And you would not know.
The risk is, In the past, Gulf of Tonkin, Vietnam, the U.S.
wanted the American people to think we were attacked to justify public support for a war.
Today, there's good reason not to get forced into a war because you want to be prepared for one, and if you're not, you don't want your economy disrupted.
So the U.S.
is not going to come out and be like, that cyber attack, that was China, because that would mean the people would rally and demand retaliation, which we may not be prepared for.
However, that being said, the U.S.
government could very easily Cyber attack a water plant or a pipeline Disrupt the flow of energy in you know the Midwest in Chicago or something Millions of people are in desperate panic water is not pumping out of there.
You know there's no electricity or whatever and then they say That was China.
ian crossland
We found Putin's passport.
I like that.
joshua smith
I like that line of thinking because we're, listen, we, us podcasters and guys who do shows, we're constantly talking about who's our biggest enemy, who's our biggest, these guys are, these guys, these guys are going to attack thermonuclear war.
Our biggest enemy is right here, man.
You know what I mean?
Like the, the, the American government can do whatever they want.
They could shut off our resources.
I mean, it's, it's pretty, you know, it's pretty scary to think about what they could do to us.
tim pool
We have a correction.
John, uh, John Curry says, Phil, there's over 700,000 people in Alaska.
phil labonte
The chat is upset.
joshua smith
They're mad at you.
phil labonte
I apologize.
ian crossland
They're all on the coast.
joshua smith
You're an Alaska bigot.
phil labonte
The thing is, there's a lot of people in the chat that we're seeing.
tim pool
They're like, I don't know.
736,081 as of 2020, so probably more at this point.
Median household income, $77,800.
Yeah, they're not.
joshua smith
That ain't bad.
They're not doing bad.
Well, they also get the oil subsidies.
phil labonte
Yeah, you get paid to live there.
tim pool
Yeah, but it's only like a couple grand, I heard.
ian crossland
Per month?
joshua smith
I know a few of them get a couple.
A couple grand.
I thought it was a couple grand a month.
phil labonte
I don't know.
joshua smith
A month?
I've been to Alaska once.
tim pool
That's basically the median income.
joshua smith
I've been to Alaska once.
Don't take, don't take, don't take my word for it.
I'd love to go.
I know that it was, it used to be, it goes up and down.
I know that.
tim pool
Let's, let's, let's bring it back home.
You're talking about, you know, the, the enemies domestic.
Well, let's talk about what's happening here in the U.S.
We got this story from the Daily Mail.
Tucker Carlson claims Barack Obama enjoyed smoking crack and having gay sex that nobody reported ahead of the 2008 election.
ian crossland
Did he actually claim it or did he say maybe this is?
tim pool
No, he said outright yes.
ian crossland
How does he know?
joshua smith
He said that the campaign would remove anybody who brought it up in 2008 even.
tim pool
Because he said a guy came forward, Larry Sinclair, and said I'll sign an affidavit and he did.
I'll do a lie detector and he did.
He said that he smoked crack with Barack Obama and they had sex.
That was obviously true.
Carlson was referencing the claims made by a convicted felon, Sinclair, at the National Press Club in 2008 while Obama was running for president.
He said nobody reported on it due to threats from the Obama campaign.
Quote, nobody reported it, not because they were squeamish about sex or drugs, but because the Obama campaign said anyone who reports on this gets no access to the Obama campaign.
So they didn't report on it.
The amount of lying in the media about it was unbelievable.
This happens all the time up and down government.
Sinclair, who has spent time in prison for forgery, fraud, and larceny, alleged that Obama, who was then a senator, bought and smoked cocaine I think it was crack, before having sex with him.
Well, I will add that Obama has not particularly good taste in men, if that's true.
Is the guy ugly?
joshua smith
Well, you know, I mean... And he has good taste in women?
tim pool
Well, look, I mean, I gotta be honest, if you put Michelle Obama next to this guy... She's got beautiful eyes.
ian crossland
She'll look like a steak.
tim pool
But let's be real, I mean, this guy's 54 now, and he was a lot younger back then.
But let's be serious, there was that letter, they actually have it, they have something here on the story, look at this.
I don't know what this is, they say, Former President Barack Obama's gay sex fantasy was revealed in a newly obtained 1982 letter to his ex-girlfriend.
So, in 1982?
ian crossland
Yeah, he was 21, I think.
tim pool
He was writing about how he wanted to bang dudes.
And you know, hey, more power to him, man.
I just think it's historically significant if we can say that Barack Obama, not only the first black president, or not entirely white president, was also a gay man who smoked crack.
phil labonte
One more reason to give the guy grief.
He was the first LGBT President yeah, and didn't even have the cojones to admit it don't be big and he lied he lied when he was running He was against gay marriage when he was running.
He was then and then he came out Once he got elected so he lies to get elected hides the fact that he's LGBT and then he comes out Oh God more reason to hate on him Thanks, Obama!
ian crossland
I don't think Tucker's lying, but I don't think that taking the word of a fraudster... This guy's convicted for fraud, and he's the one that's saying that he had sex with Barack.
It's witness testimony.
It's one guy's testimony, so why would Tucker make the claim that it's true?
joshua smith
Just because the lie detector says it.
ian crossland
Yeah, exactly.
Not admissible in court.
Yet Tucker claims it's true.
phil labonte
Because it makes good headlines.
Tucker's saying what he... Tucker's reporting what he heard.
ian crossland
He could have said that a guy told him, but instead he came out and said, it's true.
unidentified
I don't know.
phil labonte
I mean, I didn't... Did he actually say it's true?
joshua smith
So I mean, maybe... This could confirm the Big Mike rumors, though.
unidentified
I don't know if that... Lie detectors can be admissible as long as both parties agree to them.
tim pool
The issue is more so that someone will contest it.
So they're generally not used.
phil labonte
But even still, I mean, it doesn't, it doesn't matter.
Like the people that don't like Barack Obama, this is only going to be stuff for them to go ahead and make jokes about.
The people that like Barack Obama, they're not going to care.
It doesn't matter.
We know he, we know that he would lie about, you know, his policies to get elected.
I mean, that's, that's, he's, we already know what kind of person he is.
He's already in and out of office.
tim pool
He's already killed children.
ian crossland
That's the thing.
If you really want to stay focused on what he's done wrong, I feel like this is a red herring.
phil labonte
There's no reason.
Nobody's focusing on what he's done wrong.
There's absolutely no appetite to bring him up on charges for anything.
There's no point even talking about what he's done wrong other than being like, hey, don't forget.
tim pool
If news does come out for some reason that sticks, and it's like Barack Obama killed an American citizen, Nobody cares, but let's say for some reason the story does pop, whatever, a new one comes out that Obama issued another drone strike, Obama would come out, and all the news would be like, Obama's about to give a press conference, oh, I wonder if it's about the allegations and the drones, and he's gonna go, my fellow Americans!
I'm gay.
And then that's it.
And then everyone goes wild.
ian crossland
Yep.
phil labonte
Yep.
I mean, that's the thing for me.
It's like it's it's it's funny, you know, if you want to make jokes about or whatever, like, you know, poke fun at it to to make light of it.
But It's not substantially.
It doesn't matter.
joshua smith
It's fun on the Internet.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
phil labonte
It's exactly.
It's a funny.
It's a funny me.
joshua smith
It's fun on the Internet.
And we were talking about this before.
Listen, if you're involved in politics, but you're not taking part in the culture war, you're dead in the water, right?
We talked about that on the way here.
single you know candidate for anything Pete Buttigieg anybody who's got some
kind of diverse identity of any sort is gonna put that at the very forefront to
deflect them from all their bad policies and Obama would just do that he'd write
another memoir you know and everybody to go by it and forget all about it I don't
tim pool
know but I do think things are changing right that that's statistic about 12
seven kids 12th grade boys being or males they're adults skewing conservative
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I actually, as you mentioned, if you're not in the culture where you're not in politics.
joshua smith
Exactly.
tim pool
Yeah, I think we're at heavy market saturation for politics.
It's becoming pop culture.
I mean, we talked about this a couple years ago, politics is pop culture.
That's why you get people who have no business in politics doing political podcasts.
This is why you have late night comedy is nothing but politics.
Right.
No one cares about anything else.
ian crossland
Speaking of, did you see the five, the big five late night hosts?
Seth.
tim pool
Strikeforce 5.
ian crossland
Dude, they're doing a Twitter show together and it looks so lame.
tim pool
It looks lame, it is lame.
ian crossland
Seth, what's his name?
Seth something?
tim pool
Myers.
ian crossland
Myers looked so miserable in that promo.
He couldn't even say it with feeling.
phil labonte
I saw the clip and now I have to start chemo on Wednesday.
joshua smith
And then there's got Jimmy and all.
ian crossland
Jimmy Fallon looks so annoyed with Jimmy Kimmel.
Like those guys do not want to be in the same room together.
He's like, oh my God, I'm stuck.
But they're getting paid a hundred million bucks tonight or whatever.
tim pool
They're under contract.
And the studios were like, we know how to make money and generate content while there's
no writers.
ian crossland
They made Stephen Colbert be like the ringleader and the other guys are like, who is this?
I'm not bowing down to this guy.
Why is he the one ring leading this crap?
It's really annoying.
tim pool
I feel for those rich dudes.
I think it's breaking apart.
joshua smith
I hope so.
I mean Joe Rogan being the biggest podcast is and and and for a long time and by a long shot I mean a long long long ways I mean he's he's got what twice the daily viewership as CNN I mean it's long form one-on-one yes is the most bomb awesome agreed possible format yeah you might be bringing other people to is cool but any disruption of a vibe sucks if you're really in the zone Tucker proved it I mean he went he went free agent and he's getting more views than Fox has ever got ever Ever.
ian crossland
You learn so much about somebody.
tim pool
And let's be real, right?
So everyone's talking about this 200 million views or whatever.
Those are tweet views?
joshua smith
Impressions.
tim pool
I don't like the word impression because typically an impression implies like when you're scrolling through an article and there's something on the left of the screen you don't pay attention to.
A tweet view passes by you and you look at it as it passes you by.
So it's... I'm not trying to defend, you know, impressions or whatever.
I'm just trying to point out there is a subtle difference.
If I'm scrolling my Twitter feed and I'm actually looking at things and then not interested, not interested, not interested, it's very different to an ad that was on the left of my screen and I never even noticed.
ian crossland
Do you know how long it needs to remain on your screen as you're scrolling to count?
tim pool
It might be a couple seconds.
ian crossland
That would be in the code.
tim pool
I think it's three seconds.
ian crossland
Okay, it's different on different sides.
tim pool
I'm not entirely sure, but what we do know is if you actually look at the heart numbers, which are available on some devices, it was around like 20 million views.
ian crossland
Sure.
tim pool
And you look at his ratings on Fox, they come in like, Tucker did not get 200 million views.
He got 20, and I'm like, wow, when he was on Fox, he was getting three?
joshua smith
Right.
tim pool
So now he's getting 17 more?
Okay.
You look at all the shows he's doing, he actually is getting several million hits per episode.
Yeah.
joshua smith
I mean, I'm sure he's getting a lot more, especially with the President Trump interview, way more than he ever got on Fox.
I mean, it can't be even close.
tim pool
Well, he had like five point something was his record, you know, on Fox.
And with the Trump thing, it was like 20.
It was, I think when they reported it was around like 18.
So it's got to be 20 to 25 by now of actual like people sitting down and watching through the video.
joshua smith
Listen, as a candidate for president, I am not out seeking the legacy corporate news media.
I'm seeking the big podcasters.
That's who I want to go to.
When you have candidates for the office of the entire United States executive branch that are seeking out podcasts instead of the corporate news media, the corporate news media is dead.
That's it.
ian crossland
Dude, this is what Vivek's plan has been too.
tim pool
Rachel Maddow's audience?
Elderly.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And even Fox News audience, they're a lot older.
Tucker, here's the biggest screw-up that Fox did.
Tucker actually was attracting younger viewers.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
He was getting key demo viewers.
You look at these other guys, and they're skewing way older, and that's it.
They walked away from all of it.
joshua smith
Yeah, what have they got left?
Greg Gutfeld?
tim pool
I mean, Gutfeld's cool.
He's doing well.
joshua smith
He gets a younger crowd, I think.
tim pool
Jesse Waters took over for Tucker, but everybody just despises Fox News.
I mean, you look at Who was it?
Was it Neil Cavuto talking to Vivek Ramaswamy trying to justify the indictments against Trump?
And it's just laughably bad.
And Vivek is like, no, are you nuts?
He's like, well, you know, there's all of these indictments.
I mean, one of them has to be real.
And it's like, are you kidding me?
Fox is terrible.
But, you know, to be honest, Cavuto is never like their best personality anyway.
joshua smith
I haven't watched Fox other than Tucker, Gutfield, and Kennedy.
I haven't watched Fox in probably, I don't know, 10 years.
ian crossland
Kennedy's awesome.
I used to watch her on MTV, man.
So did I. That girl was awesome!
tim pool
Yeah, plus, uh, she'd have Dave on.
Dave was like a regular on there.
joshua smith
And Spike.
Spike's been on there several times, too.
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Olivia Rondeau goes on.
joshua smith
Yeah, Olivia Rondeau.
There's a lot of people that I know from the conservative circle that goes on there quite a bit.
ian crossland
Dude, what's your plan, man?
Your presidential plan.
joshua smith
Uh, so we, we actually, we have a whole website has all our platforms up there.
So I've talked about, so, you know, much like Vivek, who I think may have stolen one of my platform points, but by the way, I'm pretty sure that he stole one, uh, for the debate.
I had never heard a presidential candidate talk about how the federal government subsidizes separating families and States, uh, until he, he spoke about it on the, on the debate.
But I do want to abolish title 4d of the Social Security Act, which is a incentive from the federal government They give three dollars for every two dollars spent on child support and enforcement programs in every state So they're incentivizing the state to create a visitor out of one parent And a custodian apparent out of the other parent.
And then if this parent has any issues, they criminalize them and take more.
So we're talking $3 for every $2 given.
That's what they do.
Um, and if you look since 1975, when, when Ford signed this into law, uh, if you look since then, the, um, uh, amount of fatherless homes has increased tenfold tenfold.
I mean, insane amount.
And one in four, uh, kids lives in a father's home now.
tim pool
Let's talk politics.
We've been talking about enemies, both foreign and domestic, and we have this story.
Donald Trump tells Glenn Beck, you have no choice.
You will absolutely lock people up if returned to the White House.
He didn't say it with much enthusiasm, but here's the clip for all of you.
ian crossland
And you know, lock her up.
unidentified
And then when you became president, you said, we don't do that in America.
That's just not the right thing to do.
That's what they're doing.
Do you regret not locking her up?
And if you're president again, will you lock people up?
Well, I'll give you an example.
Uh, the answer is you have no choice because they're doing it to us.
I always had such great respect for the office of the president, the presidency, and, uh, but the office of the president, and I never hit Biden as hard as I could have.
And then I heard he was trying to indict me, and it was him that was doing it.
You know, I don't think he's sharp enough to think about much, but he was there, and he was probably the one giving the order.
He was, you know, hard to believe that he even thinks about that, because he's gone.
But then I said, well, they're actually trying to indict me, because every one of these indictments is him, including Bragg.
tim pool
You know, Bragg, he put his... So he says he's going to lock people up.
What I want to add to this is Rachel Maddow recently said that Donald Trump is only running because he wants to solve his legal problems.
That's actually Joe Biden.
joshua smith
Right.
tim pool
And now that Joe Biden is president, he's probably saying, all I can do is either win reelection or lock Trump up.
But if Trump wins, I'm going down.
And of course, you have to accuse your opponents of doing what you, in fact, are doing.
So Rachel Maddow comes out, blames Trump, says he wants to be president for life.
I guess the question is, one, do you really think Trump will do this?
And then after we answer that, my question for you, Joshua, is are you also going to lock people up?
joshua smith
I definitely want to investigate the COVID regime.
tim pool
Fauci?
joshua smith
Fauci, Safer, any governor.
tim pool
I feel like saying just the COVID regime doesn't go far enough.
joshua smith
Yes, yes, yes.
phil labonte
Not nearly far.
joshua smith
There's definitely people that need to be locked up.
ian crossland
Don't let them turn you to the dark side.
joshua smith
No, they won't.
tim pool
No, the light is trying to save.
phil labonte
There is nothing... Divine fire!
There is nothing illiberal about enforcing the law.
ian crossland
It depends on the law.
phil labonte
No, because if you have a liberal society, especially a society like ours that protects people's rights, your laws should not be violating people's rights.
Not without due process.
So if you've got someone that has been using the government, the federal government, to enrich their own family, there's nothing immoral about enforcing the law.
Or investigating it.
Earlier today I tweeted, there is currently a mountain of circumstantial evidence Joe Biden is engaged in pay for influence in Ukraine via his son.
The President of the United States, Donald Trump, was impeached by the Democrats for investigating this.
That's actually what happened.
There is no reason why we shouldn't investigate the entire Biden administration.
The whole administration, his family, like all of his business associates.
tim pool
They know it.
joshua smith
Who's going to force that investigation?
phil labonte
Well, I mean, I'm saying that would be if Trump were to be elected.
tim pool
Here's the big question.
unidentified
Do you actually think Trump is going to do anything?
phil labonte
I don't think it's a matter of whether or not Trump will want to.
I think it's a matter of whether Trump will be able to successfully execute because it's
a matter of can he find people in government that are or that could fulfill the roles that
are competent that will be able to get into positions in the bureaucracy and actually
process investigate and prosecute.
Will they be able because you know that they're going to be people in FBI and CIA and stuff
like that that are going to be doing all they can to hide stuff.
So it's a matter of will he be able to get people that are effective.
Will he want to?
I think he'll want to.
Will he execute?
Who knows?
tim pool
This is a we just heard that Enrique Tarrio's sentencing was delayed because the judge fell
ill.
It was an emergency and they're trying to lock up Enrique and other members of the Proud
Boys for 33 years.
phil labonte
Ridiculous.
tim pool
Donald Trump gets elected.
These men are pardoned.
unidentified
you.
tim pool
There should be.
phil labonte
I believe Trump pardons them.
Everybody on January 6th, even the people that were getting into fights with cops, they've already done their time.
They've already done enough time.
tim pool
Now consider this.
If we are talking about Civil War.
Everybody drink!
Oh, here we go.
You have these individuals being accused and convicted of seditious conspiracy.
Quite literally, they were accused of a plot to overthrow the United States in support of Donald Trump.
The argument being brought forward by the Democrats is that Trump was their leader who actually wanted them and encouraged them to do this.
If Trump gets elected, how will the view of the left not be?
Donald Trump succeeded in overthrowing the United States government.
phil labonte
That will be the narrative. It will be shoved down people's throat and every single like,
you know, wine mom is going to buy it.
tim pool
So how could any of these liberals or leftists argue we are not in a civil war if they believe
that Proud Boys were engaged in a seditious conspiracy at the direction of Donald Trump
to overthrow the United States and Donald Trump still has a path to gain power?
In fact, they believe he currently is likely to win.
joshua smith
I think that will be the narrative. I mean, there's no doubt about it. That's going to be the narrative everyone
runs with, especially if he wins.
Do you honestly think that he will pardon Enrique, though?
tim pool
Yes.
joshua smith
You do?
tim pool
I'm not saying it's 100%.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
But I think we've already got I'm not your buddy guy in the super chat saying Robert Barnes for AG.
I'm wondering if Trump plays the tepid role and just wins and goes, ah, we got to slow down, blah, blah, blah.
Or does Trump go in and say, at this point, I am done.
And then he, Robert Barnes, he starts bringing in diehard Trump supporters to do these jobs who will do it without question.
Because he did not do that the first time.
He went to his donors.
He went to the establishment and said, you know, who do you think would be good?
Let's play ball.
And then they tried to destroy him.
And he walked, he walked the line.
You've got these false charges, accusations of being a Russian spy.
You've got the, you know, he tries to dig into the Ukraine scandal, and they impeach him over it.
And what does he do?
unidentified
Nothing.
tim pool
So I'm not entirely convinced, but I do think there's a possibility that if Trump is elected, it's revenge.
And then you'll see MAGA personalities.
I mean, look, look at Jeffrey Clark.
Acting Assistant Attorney General, and they've criminally indicted him.
If Trump brings that guy back, I imagine he's gonna be like, I can't imagine, because we've had Jeffrey Clark here, I can't imagine the kind of guy who's gonna be like, I want revenge!
No, he's gonna be the guy who says, yo, these people are corrupt, and if we're gonna save this country, they must be criminally charged.
phil labonte
Joshua, I have a question.
How many and what departments would you abolish?
We don't have a cabinet level.
tim pool
Hold on, hold on, wait.
joshua smith
There's not enough time on this show.
tim pool
No, no, it's easier to ask which departments would you leave.
phil labonte
Which ones would you leave?
Thank you, I appreciate that.
Which ones would you leave?
joshua smith
I can't even think of any right now.
I know that we're going after the ATF first, I believe 100%, and Vivek talked a lot about this, that you can't actually, the president doesn't actually have the power to go and abolish some of these things, like on his own.
tim pool
No, but you, Vivek mentioned like- Mass layoffs.
It's not about layoffs, it's about Organizational.
joshua smith
The RFI as well, where you can transfer out and stuff like that.
tim pool
It's like when you're a boss at a company and you know you can't fire someone, so you put them in the janitor's closet and hope they quit.
joshua smith
My goal is to get rid of everybody at the ATF and then level the ATF building and turn it into a dog park.
I'd auction off all the leftover ATF equipment.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no.
joshua smith
So that we can pay reparations to people who had to unconstitutionally buy NFA tax stamps.
tim pool
I am, I am, uh, I am offended by this notion.
I reject this notion.
The ATF building should be turned into large gun super malls.
joshua smith
That would be good too.
Yes, that's, that's a, we can do, we can do both with the different buildings, but I think in honor of all the dogs murdered.
phil labonte
You know, I know so right, right.
I have a friendly relationship with the people at Brownells, and I wonder if they want a new location in Washington, D.C.
tim pool
And Martinsburg!
phil labonte
Yeah, there you go.
tim pool
Apparently they're up there, too.
joshua smith
Absolutely.
No, I can't think of many... I can't think of an agency that I'd like to keep right now.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm trying.
I'm like, come on, there's gotta be one.
joshua smith
I had a really good conversation with Austin Peterson the other day.
phil labonte
You do have to keep the DOJ, I think.
joshua smith
I had a good conversation about the CIA.
tim pool
I know, but maybe the Department of Transportation?
ian crossland
Well, Department of Energy is the one I'm thinking of.
tim pool
But if we're trying to manage interstate rail and freight and stuff, it might make sense, I mean I'm not saying it does, to have some kind of organizing body so it's easier for California to adjudicate, you know, Between other states, if like Wyoming's got an issue, and then I guess the courts could handle that.
joshua smith
I know the IRS is gone right away.
ian crossland
Oh yeah, first one out the door.
joshua smith
And I would like to abolish the income tax entirely.
That includes the state tax, payroll tax, and capital gains tax.
tim pool
How do people not vote for this?
joshua smith
And then I want to institute what's user fees, which is what the federal government always should have been.
ian crossland
User fees?
User fees.
joshua smith
How does that work?
Listen, if you're an American paying the federal government and you don't need anything from the federal government, there's no reason you should be paying the federal government.
Period.
unidentified
So like what if you want to drive on an interstate highways toll so if there yeah if there's a fat
joshua smith
Yeah, maybe maybe we go to some kind of toll system, too But there's already a lot of toll booths for a lot of
different interstates around the country But user fees and and it would be a while you gas like
phil labonte
there's yeah people forget that there is the tax There's a federal tax in every gallon of gas that is sold
and the reason that there's a federal tax What sold people on it was my tax is going to be used to
pay for the highways So you've got the federal government?
Taxing every gallon of gas they have plenty of money, but that's all
joshua smith
I want a pet project so that's not going to that's like no like that's the problem is that all these bills are pork
with Our pet pork packed with pork and and and they're paying
for pet projects I mean it comes out of social security, it comes out of the gas tax, it comes out of everything.
phil labonte
But the point is we don't need to have an income tax for a lot of the things that people think we need the income tax for.
And also our government works with a modern monetary policy basic theory so they're they don't really care
about collecting taxes to pay for anything if they want something they
print the money to pay to make it and then they just collect taxes to reduce
joshua smith
inflation just really quickly to add your point and I don't know how many people watching know this but
prior to the National Tax Act and even the 16th Amendment
there was a there there was still a government that operated
before they stole the money.
tim pool
That's not true.
joshua smith
Straight from your paycheck.
Yeah, absolutely.
tim pool
That's the story they tell kids to scare them.
joshua smith
You know, if you want national defense or whatever, I mean, listen, any patriotic American that likes their national defense system, if you told them, we're not going to take your payroll taxes anymore, but would you be willing to voluntarily crowdfund our national military with 10 bucks a month?
I guarantee you there's millions of people are going to pay for that.
tim pool
I got an idea.
We talked about this with Vivek.
If you want to vote, you have to sign up for the draft.
joshua smith
There's a lot of theories like that.
Sign up for the draft.
There's also, if you want to vote, you should be a property owner, a landowner.
I don't know if you've heard that one floating around.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't agree with that because we're in an era of renting, which didn't exist back in the day.
It made sense back in the day.
It's like, hey, if you live here, you can vote on what we're doing.
But if you don't live here, why are you voting on what we're doing?
You don't live here.
Now it's like, well, I do live here.
I rent a room upstairs.
unidentified
I'm anti-draft, so I don't think that conscription is a good thing.
tim pool
Let me ask you though, let's say that all these apartments are abolished, you get elected president, you walk in, you start signing executive orders so fast your right arm is just massive and ripped.
joshua smith
And we're going to, yeah.
tim pool
And you've signed like 10,000 documents, you're drenched in sweat, the rest of your body is disheveled and falling apart.
unidentified
You feel like Joe Biden of the normal, just curling with your left arm while you're signing with your right.
tim pool
After all of that.
A libertarian utopia exists, and then China invades California with a massive force of 300,000 troops, and they start just gunning down and massacring people.
And at that point do you say, we need a draft, we need to get people to come and fight?
joshua smith
If you people were wild enough to actually put me in the White House, okay?
Let's say that first, okay?
As a libertarian, if you guys are crazy enough to put me in the White House right now, I appreciate it.
I'm going to do all the work I possibly can to make sure that people have more freedoms every day.
I'm not in any place to immediately cut the military.
That's just crazy.
Bringing troops home, stopping wars abroad, closing down some bases that we don't need around the world, I think that's an important step.
And then a more aggressive mental health care policy for our vets that are coming home from broad that are need to reintegrate in with their wives and families and stuff because we haven't taken care of our veterans in this country at all.
At all.
I am a veteran, but it's not like I'm going to come in on day one and be like, that's it.
All military's done.
You're all going home.
tim pool
I'm just saying, in the hypothetical scenario... You're talking about an anarchist society.
No, I'm just saying, in the hypothetical scenario that the United States is directly invaded, and we have multiple forces storming our beaches and taking over our cities, you still oppose conscription?
joshua smith
Yes, I would I would oppose conscription and in fact, I think that I think that our you know Our citizens are gonna do what the military would do on their own for their own home.
They volunteer I think I think they're gonna take up arms I mean we have more guns here in the United States.
phil labonte
That's why no one's ever really invaded the United States There's more guns here that but also the United States is real damn big to invade.
Yeah, it's hard You look at you look at like crossing the mountains would be harder than Afghanistan for sure Yeah, I mean, it's just like I was saying earlier, like, getting through the mountain ranges and the West Coast, like, people talk about, oh, well, you know, China invading, blah, blah, blah.
The Rockies will shut down in advance, like, nothing.
Oh, hands down.
unidentified
Appalachia.
phil labonte
Yeah, yeah, Appalachia would, too.
I mean, like, the U.S.
tim pool
has- Could you imagine, like, Russia or China invading, and they're trying to move westward through Appalachia, and there's a bunch of They're done.
ian crossland
I don't know if you would need to institute a draft to defend, but if there's no military command overseeing the logistics, then it would just be disparate factions.
phil labonte
That's literally the best option if you're trying to defend.
That's exactly what the Taliban do.
They don't have a centralized thing to the Taliban got whipped around for two decades.
The Taliban, the way they took over and you're not taught.
OK, so like you're not talking about individual engagements, individual engagements, the Taliban lose individual
engagements.
The Vietnamese lost.
But because of the policy goal that the government's had, they were unattainable.
So even the individual battles and engagements they lose, they're never going to achieve the policy goals, which is why rifles and a determined enemy will always, always beat an invading army.
joshua smith
And I will say, to look up the Afghanistan papers, if you haven't, I'm sure your crowd already knows about that, but the government knew, knew that that was an unwinnable war in Afghanistan, 100%, even at the very beginning.
ian crossland
But what they had to do to defend was the Taliban was living in caves and the Vietnamese were living underground, literally in tunnels for 10 years.
They lived in tunnels.
Do you think the people in Appalachia are going to do that?
tim pool
Yes.
ian crossland
Where are you going to go?
Do you think they would prefer that?
phil labonte
What's the option?
ian crossland
It's our backyard option is you trash your neighbors and you get organized with the military. It's an invasion
I'm not forcing anybody to fight a war. There's a war. I mean what that's what the draft people are gonna fight it
phil labonte
Anyways here if they invade and they take a beachhead and they take land
they're all the federal government is already strapped if if if a if a
foreign government a foreign military actually manages to establish a beachhead and and have
The beginning of an infrastructure to take mainland United States the amount like the government has to be in shambles
by then Anyways, let me know that's even become
tim pool
I disagree.
phil labonte
You don't think the federal government- Southern border.
Southern- no, well, that's not a- that's not a- That's by design.
That's not landing craft, dude.
I'm not saying- I'm talking about landing craft.
I'm talking about big army invasion.
tim pool
I'm not saying that it is a beachhead.
I'm saying the federal government is incapable of dealing with, perhaps it is by design, but I don't think I think people overestimate the capabilities of the United States.
I absolutely do.
There are people who have been saying over and over again for years, the federal government won't allow this, they won't allow that.
It's like, how many federal law enforcement officers and how many people you think are in the military?
joshua smith
I'll tell you this, if I was a tyrant, and I was running this country as a tyrant, and I wanted to weaken this country to make it submit, one of the things I would do is I would send all of my troops to over 200 bases around the country.
In the world?
In the world, yeah.
200 bases around the world, and make it very easy to invade this country.
Do you think if we started bringing our troops home, you'd be as worried about Us having a war here in the United States?
ian crossland
I'd be less worried if our troops were at home.
joshua smith
Yes.
Absolutely, 100%.
So, bringing them home is the important and good and righteous thing, in my opinion.
ian crossland
But then, there is the argument of staging offensive operations to prevent an attack.
tim pool
I just want to stress, I really love the idea of imagining what would it be like if a foreign invader came to Appalachia.
unidentified
I do it all the time.
It's so fun.
tim pool
It's so fun to imagine.
When you go up to, like, there's various mountains over here, and we know all the people who live on these mountains, and they are, they lovingly call themselves right-wing nutjobs, and then they have, like, guns everywhere, and I'm just saying, there'll be a guy up on a mountain with his Barrett, and he's gonna be like, just waitin', and it's like, do you wanna, no one's coming, he's like, I wanna be here in case they do.
ian crossland
I think this age of ground invasion is kind of...
Not really over, but like, World War II, they had to drop nukes on Japan because they knew a ground invasion of the island would have been a million dead Americans.
Like, you can't fight an entrenched force.
It'd be insane for them to send ground invasion in the United States.
It'd all be drone warfare.
Like drone swarms and stuff.
tim pool
So here's the first thing you get.
You'd get cyber attacks, which would cut off your infrastructure.
You'd lose gasoline, oil, electricity goes out.
Then you'll get strategic drone strikes.
After the infrastructure is just whipped to shreds, then you get the ground forces coming in to secure the territory.
You cannot occupy a street corner with a drone.
So after they decimate any kind of infrastructure, I mean really, people need to consider what it means if our oil pipelines get shut down.
phil labonte
That's another thing people don't realize, there's only a handful of places that actually refine oil.
So like Jersey, right outside of New York City, New Orleans, and I believe in LA, those
are the three places that you can import oil into the U.S.
And if I understand correctly, and I could be wrong, but if I understand correctly, that's
it.
You take out those cities or those refineries and the U.S.
oil production, I believe, comes close to a standstill.
It's significantly hurt.
tim pool
It's a significantly hurt.
Rachel Maddow had that famous line where she's like, Russia could shut off your electricity
in the winter with a cyber attack.
It's like, well, what they'd probably do is they'd probably just destroy the North Dakota
frack fields.
Large amounts of energy produced in these areas, fossil fuels, they'd shut that down.
joshua smith
They'd have to come through Canada to get there.
tim pool
No, they wouldn't.
They'd go on their computer in Russia and type a few lines of code and hit enter and
it goes down.
Now, that is whether or not you believe that we have defensive capabilities in our infrastructure.
Ten years ago, we did not.
We were running industrial control systems from the 70s.
And of course, I guess the prevailing theory or one of them was that every major world power had already gained a death grip on the cyber infrastructure of every other country.
And at any minute, Mutually Assured Destruction at that point was, we press Enter, and your electricity goes out, and it's not coming back.
And then the response was, yeah, we'll do the same to you.
Because we have off-network machines that are capable of shutting you down.
Mutually Assured Destruction, everyone thinks is nukes flying.
At this point, it's a guy pressing Enter.
Look at Stuxnet, remember that?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That was 10 years ago.
ian crossland
Iranian.
tim pool
Amazing.
They were like, release the virus and let it go into the wild, and eventually find its way to the Iranian centrifuges and blow them up.
unidentified
They don't even need to do anything on US soil, whether cyber attack or invasion.
Canals, the Suez and Panama.
We're already seeing the impacts of the Panama backup.
Imagine, like, we rely on all of our products, all of our lives, through China.
So what if they stop all transportation coming from that way?
You know?
So I'm not even worried about the US.
joshua smith
It's a really good argument for making more things in America, by the way.
unidentified
Absolutely.
tim pool
But people really don't understand and haven't taken into consideration what would happen during a war, and we have not even ever scratched the surface on what would happen.
You know, we were talking about civil war the other night.
And I forgot who the guest was, they said peaceful divorce, which I said is absolutely impossible.
unidentified
National divorce.
tim pool
National divorce, impossible.
But peaceful divorce.
It's like a peaceful divorce, impossible.
Because of resource war.
Because North Dakota's producing energy, because California's reliant on the Colorado River, it flows through Nevada, Nevada could shut it down, Arizona could shut it down, Colorado could shut it down, and then everyone downstream is Pulling out guns.
ian crossland
A lot of Chinese were shutting down a river that was going into India.
That was a big, that's a big tension spot between the two countries.
joshua smith
As a national divorce supporter, I also agree with you.
I don't think that it would be completely peaceful, but who is going to be the unpeaceful one in that situation?
unidentified
China.
ian crossland
What do you mean who?
joshua smith
China in a national divorce?
tim pool
What do you mean who?
joshua smith
Like the federal government will tell the states they can't leave.
tim pool
But it's not about states leaving.
The idea that civil war is, I say this 50 billion times, is going to follow the track of 1861 is an absurd notion.
Like, one time this thing happened, and now everyone's like, that's how all civil wars will always be.
more likely what'll happen is uh... arizona will say we need to build a a a reservoir
because of the drought impacts have been having so we're gonna begin construction
nevada then says if you do this you will cut off our water supply for sixteen
months and we will die and they'll say if we don't do this we will die and the
nevada says ch you are not cutting our water off and then arizona says try us
The question is whether or not the federal government can be stretched so thin.
People underestimate the power of U.S.
federal law enforcement and of the military.
If we are engaged in conflict, on our border or internationally, and we actively are with U.S.
troops being sent to Europe, And confidence is lost in the federal government for a variety of reasons.
All that needs to happen is not that a state secedes, but that a state has a problem that cannot be adjudicated properly, and there is no federal law enforcement to come and prevent violence from erupting.
I don't know if that can happen, or when it could happen, or whatever I'm saying.
In the event that a national divorce happens, It doesn't have to be that Nevada files a declaration of secession.
It can be that Nevada just says, guys, we're losing water and the Biden administration has not responded to us.
They've told us they're strapped and they can't send law enforcement.
We're on our own now.
And then you get interstate conflict.
ian crossland
I'm wondering, from your perspective, Joshua, the issue I have with libertarianism, I feel like it doesn't jive with the presidency because it's such an authoritarian role.
You're the military commander.
I suppose that's your main job, is command the military.
So how would you handle the military with Taiwan?
joshua smith
Or if there wasn't, you said you wouldn't issue a draft, you would just let people like Yeah, I think if you're going to join the military, it should always be on voluntary terms.
We should never make anybody a warfighter because we say they have to be a warfighter.
I think that goes way against the whole entire identity of consent.
And so, yes, I'm definitely against that.
Listen, I don't know.
I know that since the Nixon era with the Taiwan and China thing, we've kind of had this double failsafe where we're like, China?
Don't mess with Taiwan. We may go to war with you and then with Taiwan it was kind of like listen Taiwan
Don't mess with China. We may not protect you and it's worked since then
But now obviously it's not and I think it's it's such a weird thing because we have
you know, we have a government that's saying Russia is not allowed to
Take a rogue province from Ukraine But on the other hand, China's not allowed to take... I guess I'm mixing that up.
They're not allowed to have their rogue province in Taiwan.
Ukraine is has to let theirs has to get theirs back or whatever, you know, even though they're mostly ethnic Russians living there and so I just I'm not gonna like go and play, you know civil war around the country with our military.
It's not worked out for us.
It's not worked out in the Middle East that for decades and decades and decades.
I think it's just it's it's it's bad.
ian crossland
I mean just I want to defend against an invasion not a civil war.
joshua smith
Yeah and that's and I'm not I'm not at all against national defense. I think we we have
a much better chance of defending against an invasion if we have our troops at home because
no you know nobody's trying to come here and attack us since since 1930s right? I mean
Pearl Harbor 40s and it's. And that's still technically very very far away.
tim pool
Hawaii is very far away.
It was a military operation.
joshua smith
Yeah, it's far away.
And it's like, when we're talking about Taiwan, Taiwan is 7,000 miles away from here.
It's only 90 miles from China.
You know what I mean?
If we go and have this theater over there by Taiwan, we're going to lose an aircraft carrier, maybe.
And what's Joe Biden going to do if we lose an aircraft carrier?
I mean, it's going to get real ugly real quick.
ian crossland
It feels so much like Ukraine.
It's just a little piece of land that's right next to their country that we have control of.
It's like, dude, what?
tim pool
Let's jump to this story from NBC News.
Secretaries of State get ready for possible challenges to Trump's ballot access.
Arizona Secretary of State is the latest to say his office is grappling with the potential effects of a move to block Trump from the ballot.
Okay, you got Arizona, you got New Hampshire, you've got Florida, and it's going to keep happening.
My friends, if, in October of 2024, they announce, at least one state, Donald Trump's name has been removed for he is an insurrectionist under the 14th Amendment, do not be surprised.
They've indicted him, they've indicted his lawyers, this is not above them.
I think at that point, things get bad.
But Tucker Carlson was saying that they're not going to let Trump win.
They won't do COVID.
They'll start war with Russia, which we're already in, but they'll formally declare.
Do you think they would be beyond, that it is beyond them to do this, these Democrats?
What they're doing now in Arizona is they're going, oh, gee golly, it's such a hard question.
I mean, we want to be fair, but Donald Trump did an insurrection.
Guess we got to remove his name.
And they're talking about taking his name off the primaries.
This is the way I think all the Republicans should drop out.
Because Trump is the clear frontrunner.
And if Arizona or New Hampshire or Florida takes his name off the primary ballot, and this results in, say, Vivek or DeSantis winning, neither of them will win in the general, and it will cause a major rupture and split, giving the election to Joe Biden.
ian crossland
Maybe, but Chuck Todd loves Vivek.
I watched that interview.
Did you guys see those guys?
Chuck, like, really respects that guy.
I think he's like, Chuck is terrified of Trump and annoyed with Trump and is like, yo, this guy's actually smart and has a plan and he's interesting to listen to.
phil labonte
I don't, I don't get the feeling that people that would be considered mainstream are giving Vivek any serious respect.
tim pool
They're claiming that he said 9-11 was an inside job!
ian crossland
Last weekend he was on Chuck Todd, it was pretty cool.
At first he was a little confrontational, like combative, and then Chuck started to soften up and you can tell he's got a lot of respect for him.
tim pool
So what do you think about Trump having his name removed from the ballot?
joshua smith
I think it's definitely not above the Democrats to try and do that.
tim pool
Beneath?
joshua smith
Beneath, yes.
And trust me, as someone who's had to go around the country and fight for ballot access for our candidates for the last six years, I mean, it sucks.
But yeah, I don't think it's beneath the Democrats.
I think they'll definitely try.
tim pool
There's no doubt.
What do you think happens if, in the general October, they take Trump's name off of, say, Georgia, Wisconsin, and Arizona?
joshua smith
I mean, Trump's Trump's not going to win, but how does this country react?
I mean, I think it's going to be violent.
tim pool
Yeah, 100%.
joshua smith
I think it's going to get violent.
I you think January 6 will look like a cakewalk.
ian crossland
I believe what is a cakewalk?
joshua smith
It's it was a game.
It was a game.
We used to play in elementary school.
You would win cakes.
Yes, absolutely.
Yeah, it was a game.
We used to play in the in the I don't remember how we played with blindfolds.
I don't remember.
I honestly don't remember but I know that it was a game where you won cakes people brought cakes and then you played this game and I don't even think Violence, like, that's necessarily the first thing that'll happen.
unidentified
I think if just people just start doing massive occupations of places, like, that's gonna be the scary thing.
You're just gonna see thousands of souls, not even necessarily violent or angry, just occupying places.
joshua smith
Yeah, I think it'll be really ugly.
tim pool
It started as get-togethers on slave plantations, where people would have dance contests to win cake.
unidentified
Oh, cool.
joshua smith
We played it in school when I was a kid.
tim pool
Oops!
You can't do it now because the school's going to say it's got slave competition.
unidentified
My bad.
ian crossland
The reason I brought up Chuck Todd seeming to enjoy Vivek is because I think this is understood.
They're going to remove Trump from the ballot.
They're going to stop.
I mean, Trump's already decided he's not going to be the president.
We have a deep stake.
Get it through your head.
And they're trying to soften Vivek on the people right now so that they're not so upset and they have someone to vote for him.
tim pool
I don't trust Vivek.
joshua smith
I don't trust Vivek.
ian crossland
But they just want him to suck it up and vote for him.
joshua smith
Listen, I think that First of all, I've called Vivek out on Twitter a million times for a debate.
If you're watching this, I'd love to debate you anytime, but I know that you'll get kicked out of the primary debates if you do that.
I understand.
tim pool
Is that a rule or something?
joshua smith
Apparently, I did not know this, but I've been challenging him to a debate for a while.
He said some things in the debates that I...
Take issue with and I'd like to talk to him at least just talk to him on my show about it and and Someone actually posted the RNC's rules that says if you if any candidate takes place Takes part in any of the unsanctioned debates around the country.
ian crossland
They will be immediately removed What if you guys are just here having a conversation?
joshua smith
Yeah, that would be different and I'd be okay with it.
tim pool
It's not a debate.
Yeah panel I'd be down, but I don't think that they could do it because I mentioned him talking with Dave Smith and he was more like Oh yeah, he was like, I'm only going to go for the real candidates.
ian crossland
Trump.
unidentified
Yeah.
joshua smith
Well, you're not going to, he's not even going to get within 10 feet of Trump.
ian crossland
That's the Trump doesn't want it.
joshua smith
And I said that, I said, you know, I'm likely to be on the ballot as a libertarian.
Well, yeah, I guess that would change things.
And, and, and I said that the, the, the Republican debate, the primary debate was just a VP interview.
That's really what it was.
tim pool
I think Vivek's great.
I don't think he's perfect.
I don't think any politician is out there with, like, their actual diary, you know, broadcasting their thoughts.
A lot of what they say is well-crafted planning.
You know, you go to someone like Vivek, and he runs a biotech firm, and you say, what's your position on Aleppo?
He's gonna be like, to be completely honest, I haven't thought, I don't know enough about it, I haven't thought enough about it, and I'd be, it'd be difficult for me to give you an answer.
Vivek is the kind of guy who would say something like that on the spot, but go research it, research it, and then come back and give you a general cursory response.
So what that means to me is when you ask him on these debate stages, like, how do you feel about Medicare and Medicaid, he'll give you an answer, but it's like not, it's not his specialty.
So he's giving you the political response.
But just from meeting the guy, we've had him on IRL twice, once with me, once with Seamus, and we've had him on The Culture War.
I mean, it feels like you're talking to a real person.
We've had politicians, and I cringe without naming anybody.
You have the politicians on the show that are playing the politician game, and it is so annoying.
It's like, dude, don't come on this show if you're not going to be definitive on your positions and your answers.
No, but Veik outright was like, He's just like chillin'.
And I'm like, what about service guarantee and citizenship?
And he's like, yeah.
And then we talked about the idea that if you want to vote in this country, after you, male or female, sign up for the Selective Service, you get a voter ID card.
And that's it.
I really like that idea.
I don't think it's perfect, but I like the idea.
phil labonte
I like the idea as well.
I don't think that limiting voting is a winning argument.
I don't think that there's an appetite in the United States for it.
joshua smith
You don't want to abolish the 19th Amendment?
phil labonte
I didn't say that.
There is a difference between what I want and what I think there is an appetite for in the United States.
There is a significant difference.
tim pool
Your ideals aren't necessarily your platform.
I've got a plan for you guys.
It's really, really simple.
unidentified
Let me hear it!
tim pool
It is called the Omnibus Bill, and what you do is, you write a single sentence, or you write a sentence that says, Citizens of the United States may only vote with a voter ID received after registering for the Selective Service, irrespective of biological sex.
And then you just slide it right in the middle of those 6,000 pages and watch them sign it!
phil labonte
Problem solved!
You have a point.
No one's going to read it!
I don't think that's a good way to pass it either.
I would love to see a return to the idea that there are things that are acceptable for the federal government to legislate and there are things that are not.
And most things fall under the not category.
And that's essentially the goal of limiting people's vote, right?
Or the idea.
The idea is there are things that people are voting on They're voting in ways that harm the country and stuff.
So I get it that people are like, oh, we would like to limit the damage that's possible by the whims of people voting, because essentially that's what you're talking about.
People vote on whims with emotions.
And I understand, but I don't think that that's something that the right should really try to seriously engage in, because I think that it is a total loser.
ian crossland
Yeah, I agree.
It's such a shutdown of morale.
Like, 90 million people will be like, what the hell are you talking about?
tim pool
Strip people of their voting rights?
phil labonte
The same people that'll say, oh, this is a terrible idea and blah blah blah, those are the same people that will never read a goddamn book to vote.
Like, they will go and they will vote for the most idiotic reasons.
They'll vote because they like the guy's smile or they like, you know, she's whatever.
They'll vote for the absolute most awful, awful reasons.
But then they'll sit there and be like, no, I need to have my vote counted because, you know, I got to vote for the guy with the nicest smile because I can't be bothered to think.
Well, that happens.
All the time!
That's the whole reason to say you should limit votes.
unidentified
Yeah.
I think after the TV was invented, like there's this big shift in presidential candidates became drastically more attractive.
tim pool
Well, that's the famous story that Nixon on radios, they said he won, and on TV they said he lost.
Because on TV he was sweaty and clammy.
ian crossland
Oh, that interview was worthwhile.
That debate is awesome.
He was so sweaty, and Kennedy came in so cool.
And it's the same thing with Clinton.
In Clinton's first debate, he looked like a moron.
And then he must have had somebody be like, look, this is where he messed up, this is where he messed up, this is where he messed up, and he examined it.
In his second debate, dominated George Bush.
tim pool
You know why, Trump?
Crushes it in the debates.
Because he's not giving you that canned political garbage.
joshua smith
Sure.
tim pool
Because people are so tired and sick of, oh, Deepwater Horizon has an oil spill and the executive comes out and goes, we're sorry, we work really hard and with your help and assistance we will clean- oh shut up!
joshua smith
Yeah.
tim pool
We know the moment you went back you're sweating and you're like, how much is my bonus going down?
And then Donald Trump goes on stage and just interrupts and just says whatever and it's like, Well, there you go.
joshua smith
I agree.
I agree 100%.
I definitely sympathize more with somebody who feels like a normal person than a canned response.
My campaign's a blue-collar, working-class campaign who's trying to appeal to the middle class, so I get it 100%.
unidentified
I like the fact that he's 6'3 and 215.
Yeah.
I think that's definitely true.
ian crossland
Very true.
tim pool
We gotta jump to this story, ladies and gentlemen.
It's a sad story.
A sad story from the Daily Mail.
Mitch McConnell freezes again!
Republican Senator 81 sparks health concerns by suddenly stopping for 30 seconds.
I'm gonna play for you this video, and it's very strange.
And let's make sure we have the audio.
unidentified
the Idaho.
tim pool
Check this out.
unidentified
I'm sorry, I had a hard time hearing it.
That's okay.
ian crossland
What are your thoughts on running for re-election in 2026?
unidentified
What are my thoughts about what?
ian crossland
running for re-election in 2026.
unidentified
Oh, that's uh...
He's gone.
tim pool
Did you hear the question, Senator?
unidentified
Running for re-election in 2026?
No, he's not gone.
He answered it.
Yes.
phil labonte
He went, yes.
The response.
That was a quick response, too.
unidentified
All right, I'm sorry, you all.
We're going to need a minute.
ian crossland
Keep playing if this just gets crazier.
phil labonte
He's not incapacitated.
unidentified
I think they're trying to move him.
tim pool
Yeah.
Look at his hands on the podium.
phil labonte
He's holding on.
unidentified
He's gripping.
tim pool
Because he's going to fall over.
unidentified
Look how hard he's holding on to the podium.
tim pool
He's trying not to collapse.
unidentified
Somebody else have a question?
Please speak up.
ian crossland
This guy's stroking out.
phil labonte
It wasn't a stroke.
tim pool
Look at him holding on.
unidentified
And she's holding his back.
tim pool
She can't get his arm off the podium.
unidentified
It's terrible.
Whoa.
phil labonte
Senator Daniel Cameron.
Do you have a comment on Daniel Cameron?
stroke that's not what a stroke looks like he's he's I think his blood
tim pool
pressure may be dropping he may be about to pass out where is anybody trying to
unidentified
help him I'd be so concerned if I was standing there senator Daniel Cameron
dude he's fried He's out of there.
Why would they leave him there?
ian crossland
Because they don't want to show the camera that he's sick.
tim pool
The craziest point is this.
unidentified
I'm sorry, here's the question, Senator.
Running for re-election in 2026.
tim pool
Yes.
joshua smith
But he doesn't answer it.
tim pool
I know.
Just, yes.
Like, whoa.
And then his hands holding on for dear life.
phil labonte
He was holding himself up, yeah.
joshua smith
He looks like he has full-blown dementia to me.
And I worked in skilled nursing homes for a decade, and that's what it looks like.
It's the same thing Joe Biden does.
He does the same crap.
He's sundowning.
He's probably sundowning.
tim pool
Oh, and the bursts of rage?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
That Joe Biden does?
joshua smith
And the ice cream.
right the ice cream and we used to give patients ice cream when when they
started having their sundowning moment towards the evening give my screaming they forget all about it and so I see the
guy with ice cream and like he's sundowning yeah he's got a mentally sundown
tim pool
there's no so there was that famous video where joe biden snaps at the reporter or
whatever who asks about after the issue always like a job it was just a
yelling yeah it's a what I was told is people are suffering from
dementia no they can't know
Like, they're cognizant of the failing.
A question was asked of me and I can't put it together and it's frustrating, being unable.
And so they get really angry and just go, and they have these outbursts.
joshua smith
Sometimes violently.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
They get really angry.
ian crossland
This is the weakest I've ever seen a politician in the United States.
tim pool
Have you seen Feinstein?
joshua smith
Yeah.
tim pool
She's like in a wheelchair.
joshua smith
Barely alive, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, she's like, they're carting around.
She gave power of attorney to her daughter and she's just being wheeled around and they're like, now that you're back, I never left.
It's like, man, you've been gone for a long time.
joshua smith
I will say that I've seen a lot more politicians looking bad over the last couple years than I've ever seen in my entire life.
Or maybe their adrenochrome supply ran out.
ian crossland
I wonder if COVID messed people up.
unidentified
The old guard doesn't want to let go of power.
I don't know if this is like this.
I'm younger here.
I don't know if in the 80s and 70s we saw something similar of these older politicians that wouldn't let go.
joshua smith
I never saw that.
ian crossland
They didn't give public speeches like this.
What would the founding fathers have us do?
joshua smith
I don't know.
tim pool
You know, I think the issue is Mitch McConnell is just, he's waiting for the Genesis device to be repaired in the basement of the Capitol building to rejuvenate him back to a youthful 20, where he'll then masquerade as an intern.
ian crossland
What a loser to think that this is the most important thing in his life.
phil labonte
What do you mean by, what do you mean?
ian crossland
What would they do if they had a guy with dementia in Congress?
joshua smith
Go home, man.
ian crossland
Would they grab him and pull him out of there and be like, you're not allowed back in?
phil labonte
I don't imagine.
tim pool
No, that's not true.
There's a bunch of politicians who are whacked out.
There was like a Supreme Court justice who was out of his mind.
phil labonte
There's also, there's methods.
If you want to know, all you got to do is look in the constitution.
Like there are methods to take people, to remove people from office, impeachment and stuff.
Like all, like there's a lot of times where like people are like, oh, well, what would they do?
It's like all of the questions can be answered by reading the constitution.
ian crossland
So if someone gets dementia you impeach them?
phil labonte
Well you could either remove the answers from there.
The president was 25th amendment or something like that but there's recalls, there's a way to do it.
I don't know if it's, it might not technically be an impeachment because I think that's actually the trial to
remove them from office.
So there might be other methods.
tim pool
The impeachment is the indictment.
phil labonte
Yeah, okay. So it probably wouldn't be called an impeachment but it'd be something, there are definitely
methods to get people that are in, that are incapacitated or cannot fulfill the office.
There are methods that the founders had to take them out of office.
It's just that there needs to be an appetite for it among the population and among the people that are actually in power.
That means people have to get in touch with their congresspeople.
and their senators and be like hey or whatever if it's just congressman maybe
it's congressperson whatever but you can get in touch with me okay this is a problem for me
i'm a consistent constituent
and i and this is a problem for me to until people actually act
joshua smith
nothing happened i will say that correlation is not causation but i have
seen a lot more uh...
politicians like this is the demise of jeffrey epstein for sure so
unidentified
could be a dream of growing up like it stress now that i have seen on shut down the images like
all of all of our everyone what the policy politicians
joshua smith
do stuff like that i don't think there's a much you know that it's a little stuff that not not on their
tim pool
minute you realize media is a take what you just had seriously that's okay
that's going to be in the independent of the daily list i want to be i want to
joshua smith
be very clear about my presidential campaign this is a
We're running a very serious campaign, but I'm the first Libertarian that's going to tell you, as a candidate for Libertarian president, that I am not going to win the presidency.
I'm not under any illusion they're going to let us in the White House.
We want 5% to change the political landscape in America.
ian crossland
What does it do?
joshua smith
It gives us national major party status.
It will include us in the debates in the next election.
It makes the federal government have to do all the same things for the Republicans and Democrats, for the Libertarians as well.
ian crossland
And then you run like a superstar?
joshua smith
Yeah, and then we run a superstar, they get into debates, you know, then we start being a party that someone can trust.
So I'm not going to come out here and lie to everybody and be like, whoa, any libertarian candidate that's telling you he's going to win the presidency this year is a liar or suffering from delusions of grandeur.
I mean, my goal is 5% change the political landscape for the rest of eternity in the
United States, make another national political party, then you have a candidate that's actually
circling the waters, making these people have to start governing like they campaign.
Everything's different after that.
ian crossland
Everything.
Forever.
unidentified
What's the difference between running a third party and running independent?
joshua smith
So we fought for ballot access as libertarians already.
We're going to get on the ballot, and our party will be on the ballot in at least 40-something states.
We may not get all 50 this year because we don't have the money, but the fact that there's already... How much money does it cost?
Uh, so it just depends.
There's some states that are really bad, like, uh, Tennessee needs like 200,000 signatures to get on the ballot.
We've been fighting Tennessee ballot access laws for ever since I've been in the party since like 2010.
Um, New York is very hard.
Uh, Alabama has been very hard.
Uh, some states we have it already and it's easy and some states we get it by running a smaller down ballot candidates that get a certain percentage and we've gotten it that way.
ian crossland
So you need signatures, not necessarily money?
joshua smith
Signatures and or money, yeah.
Some states are like that.
Some states are just signatures.
tim pool
What about taking over a state?
joshua smith
New Hampshire has been working on that for a long time.
I love the Free State Project.
I think those guys have done a lot of really great stuff there.
I'm sure Phil would agree in some ways.
phil labonte
I think they're doing great.
joshua smith
Yeah, I endorse the Free State Project, for sure.
I think that's a very smart idea.
I talked about doing it in Iowa, too.
I think that Iowa's a very, very, very conservative, liberty-loving state, too.
tim pool
West Virginia is, but it's got to be cleaned up.
joshua smith
Yes.
tim pool
There's a lot of red tape.
joshua smith
We didn't send a single Democrat to Washington from Iowa.
Not one.
Not a single one.
You're welcome, America.
ian crossland
I feel like West Virginia's ready to have a big evolution.
joshua smith
Yes.
tim pool
Yeah, it was a Democrat state for a long time.
What was it, Riley Moore?
We've had him on the show several times.
He's the first Republican treasurer.
So smart.
He's a Democrat.
Yeah, he's fantastic.
And he skates.
Skateboards.
joshua smith
Nice.
tim pool
He did a kickflip.
Yeah, super cool.
ian crossland
It would be cool to have some sort of power in the state government.
tim pool
I don't care about political power.
It is interesting running a show like this and knowing as many people as I do, because it's an interesting perspective that I did not have when I was younger when it comes to the idea of lobbying and how this stuff works.
Quite literally, there are people who are in office that will come on this show and have a conversation with me, and those exchange of ideas can influence laws in other places.
It's really that simple often.
You know, just literally talking to a politician and they can draft something and they can change things.
West Virginia has, I think, like 1.5 or so million people.
Maybe it's 1.6.
Maybe it's 1.3.
I'm not sure.
So it actually is substantially easier in a state like West Virginia or even New Hampshire, where the population is smaller.
joshua smith
I was smaller than West Virginia, I believe.
Right.
Right around the same.
But during COVID, I went down to the statehouse there and lobbied with these guys.
I got interviews.
I did interviews with state legislators.
We have great state legislators.
tim pool
That's why I want to do the Martinsburg Project.
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
It's like, I'm not gonna go for a state, I'm just gonna go for, like, a very small city.
joshua smith
County.
tim pool
And, uh, uh, well, it's Berkeley County.
joshua smith
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah, and then Martinsburg is the, uh, is the town.
But, uh, we've got properties in West Virginia, in Jefferson and Berkeley County.
So this is the eastern panhandle.
You've got, basically what's happening is, uh, what I would describe as a woke incursion.
This is MAGA country, unquestionably.
Right now where we do the studio, we're actually in Maryland,
because we operate out of the tri-state, which is Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia.
But we're setting up all of the new studio stuff, all of the new stores, everything is going to be in West Virginia.
It is in West Virginia.
And what we're finding is that the locals who are in these towns are getting increasingly frustrated
with the people from DC who are coming out here and masquerading as MAGA,
but secretly trying to implement woke and communist policies and Marxism and stuff like that.
We saw it in local schools.
The people would run for school board and be like, we want, you know, church and faith and family.
And then as soon as they get in, they'd be like, all right, bring in all the weird, you know, porn and everything for the kids.
joshua smith
Heretics, for sure.
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, I mean, you call them a heretic, but like, it's just, they're subversives.
They're masquerading as, you know, we're locals here and we want to do good, and then what do they do?
They have drag shows with children in West Virginia.
So my thought is like, as long as we're here and we're investing, I encourage everybody to come out to Martinsburg, Berkeley County, and what we'll do is effectively the Free City Project, where We just will help revitalize a small town.
There's legacy families who have businesses there, their great-grandparents founded and passed down to them, who have been complaining about how this wokeness keeps creeping in.
They're seeing signs everywhere, these events are popping up, and they feel like they're losing.
I've had city councilmen say they're passing these pride resolutions against the wishes of the town.
Thousands of people come out and protest, but it doesn't matter because they still sneak in and start passing these things, and I'm like, then we need to tell them no.
joshua smith
That's the communist playbook, man.
I mean, they've been telling us they were going to do these things for years and years and years, decades, generations.
ian crossland
Almost like having a centralized place where people go and sign some papers to affect everyone else is defunct.
joshua smith
Right.
tim pool
It's just...
We have so much respect.
The Constitutional Republicans, and I don't mean Republican political party, I mean those who believe in the Constitutional Republic.
ian crossland
All Americans are Republicans.
tim pool
They are not.
ian crossland
We all are of the Republic, therefore Republican.
Yes, we are.
tim pool
That is incorrect, because right now in places like Charlestown and in Martinsburg, in smaller areas in West Virginia, you have multicultural Democrats.
People who believe that the system should not be run by a constitution, but by the 50.1% majority.
And also, it's not even about democracy in a great deal.
It's about, we are the better people who should rule over you.
So they lie to get power, and then they vote for things against the wishes of the public to the consternation and protest, and they don't care!
And the only way you change it is if you get organized, and we have, say, like a free city project, and we come in and we say, push back.
ian crossland
I interrupted you.
You were talking about centralized government in the Republic, and, uh, because I think it's a bad... I think sending people to a building somewhere to go sign paperwork to affect everybody else... Why cut you off and said that we're all Republican, because we live in a Republic?
tim pool
And so, to carry on what I'm talking about, you have Marxists, people who believe in the concept of what they call multicultural democracy, and you have people who believe in constitutional republicanism.
The people who are in West Virginia for the most part see their city members of the city council.
I shouldn't say all of West Virginia.
I can only talk about where I'm at.
And they passed in Charlestown a pride resolution recognizing Pride Month.
ian crossland
Everyone's pissed off!
tim pool
They had a massive protest.
All of these people protesting, marching, but how do they protest?
They silently pray as they march the city.
But the people on the council don't care.
All they care about is getting that political power.
So you have all of these people who are really angry about what's going on, and they live there, but they respect the idea of the Constitutional Republic, so they don't do anything out of line.
They simply say, well, we better vote next time.
What are the Marxists and the multicultural democracists, whatever you want to call them, doing?
Saying, just keep lying to them, because we're smarter than they are, and then we can make change, and the cops will do as we say.
joshua smith
Olinsky tactics, for sure.
tim pool
Hands down.
joshua smith
They've been doing this for a long, long time here.
It's subversion.
They said, we're going to get into your institutions, we're going to get into your kids' daycares, we're going to get into your health care, we're going to get into your government, and we're going to take it over.
That's what they've been telling us they were going to do that for.
phil labonte
Especially like centrist people like they like to say that the right has been Chicken littling about socialists and leftists and stuff like that But the evidence is that there are Marxists all throughout our society in places like educating places of education, you know knowledge creation in schools and in the federal government There's a straight-up Marxist that just wouldn't want to see in Colorado and he's calling for an actual cultural revolution These are real, serious problems in America that have dramatic consequences worldwide because the United States is the last place where there is a significant voice to have government controlled and small.
Now, it's not the majority voice still.
Currently, both Republicans and Democrats want to have a bigger government than I'm comfortable with.
But of all the places on earth, the most people that are looking for a limited government happen to be in the United States.
ian crossland
The FBI, well not originally, but in the 50s, McCarthyism went hard against communists.
phil labonte
Not hard enough.
ian crossland
Yeah, they were blacklist people.
joshua smith
McCarthy was right, mostly.
ian crossland
So you think so?
unidentified
Yes.
ian crossland
So would you advocate for us using government, a secret police force to... No.
So now it's not a good thing, but then it was?
phil labonte
He was right, but the tactics were bad.
joshua smith
Yeah, the tactics weren't great.
I think that, listen, in my head I take a very Hoppe approach to this.
I think that if you want to have a libertarian society, you can have no tolerance at all in your libertarian society for communism.
I believe that.
tim pool
What does that mean?
Hoppe?
joshua smith
Yeah, Hans-Hermann Hoppe.
He's a writer who talks a lot about libertarianism.
tim pool
Just like no communists allowed.
joshua smith
Yeah, I mean, you can't, you know, he takes a little further than that.
But yeah, he says that, you know, in a libertarian society, you cannot, you cannot suffer the communists, they have to be physically removed.
ian crossland
Like not even a communist party?
joshua smith
Not at all.
ian crossland
In Canada, they have a communist party.
tim pool
My view has been, I would say maybe like six years ago, my view was, I believe in free speech.
Even if you're a communist or a fascist or whatever, we must defend free speech.
Now my position is, if you believe in free speech, then I will defend your free speech.
If you don't believe people should have free speech, then I will defend your request to not have free speech and not help you when you get silenced.
joshua smith
That's self-defense, my friend.
I mean, absolutely.
tim pool
I mean, I'm just giving them what they want.
You know, so if, you know, a libertarian guy being like, I should be allowed to speak, I'll be like, you're right, you should.
And someone says, no, he shouldn't, I'll be like, then you shouldn't either.
joshua smith
I believe everyone should get what they vote for.
You know what I mean?
tim pool
So like San Francisco?
ian crossland
Yeah, Republican.
tim pool
You see the video?
unidentified
This video about San Francisco where like the lady... I'm born and raised there.
tim pool
I think it was SF.
Lady parks her car and walks inside and when she comes out all of her windows are broken and someone took a dump in the car and smeared feces all over everything.
unidentified
Oh my gosh!
joshua smith
Five minutes.
You know who turned San Francisco into that, right?
tim pool
Who was it?
joshua smith
Gavin Newsom.
He was the mayor of San Francisco.
When I was a kid, I grew up in Oakland, right across the bridge.
One of the greatest big cities in the country.
So much fun to hang out.
It's pretty safe.
It was not what it is today.
Gavin Newsom is the one who made it Actually really legitimately a shitty city because they have poo maps right that you can see all the poops He's the one apartment in a poo department He's the one that did that and instead of you know, the the state going.
Hey, this guy is horrible.
Absolutely terrible We gotta get rid of him.
tim pool
They made him the governor, you know, you know, I love about San Francisco when I was there It's uh, it's five bucks to come in to San Francisco and it's free to leave.
Yeah Yeah.
But you know why they do that?
It's because they want you to leave and they want to make sure people who are poor and low-income have a harder time getting in.
It's a pressure system.
joshua smith
A lot of good skating there, though.
ian crossland
What's that?
joshua smith
A lot of good skating there, though.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
A lot of good deals.
So how would you deal with the communist revolution that we're sensing?
If not McCarthyism and the blacklisting of people that are involved?
tim pool
What do you do?
Do you round them up?
joshua smith
I don't think we can do that as Americans.
I think that we need to fight the culture war.
phil labonte
I'm sure that we can't do that as Americans.
joshua smith
Yeah, sorry.
I guess I should have said that.
Yeah, we definitely can't do that as Americans.
But I do believe that we can win the culture war by fighting in the culture war.
tim pool
But you saw that Josie, Redheaded Libertarian, had that post a long time ago talking about the 1964 Civil Rights Act explicitly states that communists are not human.
Yeah.
Not in that sense.
It says they're exempt.
joshua smith
Yeah.
tim pool
That these provisions do not apply to people who are communists, members of communist political organizations, meaning that you are allowed to discriminate against someone for being a communist.
ian crossland
It's so crazy because we're all in this together.
No, I'm saying that's the communist mantra.
joshua smith
Wait a minute.
ian crossland
It's so easy to compassionately fall into believing it or feeling it.
Right.
It's all of us, man.
We're all in this.
And then as soon as you get power, it's you.
unidentified
Right.
phil labonte
What the left does intentionally, and people hear it all the time, but it's almost as if the word has lost meaning.
The left, specifically the far left, is intentionally subversive.
So you look at the Nazis, right?
You look at the white nationalists, people like Nick Fuentes and stuff.
Nick Fuentes is dying for people to hear him say exactly what he believes.
He will tell you that he's racist.
He will tell you that he believes that there should be a policy that gets rid of You know, people that he considers undesirable, he will tell you right out.
The left is going to lie.
They're going to tell you that, no, this is for democracy.
We all get a say and etc, etc, etc.
They will lie and tell you all kind of good things.
And then once they're in a position of power, the boot comes down.
So as much as the National Socialists and the Nazis are terrible, the Commies are worse because at least you can identify the Nazis.
You can see them and be like, OK, these are the people we can't listen to.
And it's clear because they'll tell you what they believe.
The Commies will lie to you.
So it's like, well, I don't know.
Is this guy just a Democrat?
Because they're going to tell you, oh, well, I'm you know, I'm a liberal.
I'm a progressive.
No, you're a Commie.
You're an authoritarian that will kill people, give them the authority, give them the power.
joshua smith
The communists will lie their way into being a teacher at kids' school and show them
tim pool
your...
phil labonte
I got an idea.
tim pool
Absolutely.
I have an idea.
I know what we could do.
We can create a communist utopia.
Not, not, hold on, not everywhere.
But we just find like maybe a thousand acres, maybe in Wyoming or something or Montana,
some federal controlled land.
We, you know, put a big fence around it.
We call it Communist Utopia.
Everyone's equal, everyone gets access, and we say, you are free to go there if you want, and we will operate this jurisdiction exactly as you would like it to be.
So, diversity, equity, inclusion, committee hearings, and there will be a base level of funding provided for the initial startup, and then all the communists will choose to go to that commune, Where they will live as agrarian people and share all their goods.
joshua smith
They'll be killing each other in two years.
It'll be bad.
unidentified
Right.
joshua smith
Yeah, absolutely.
Killing each other and eating people, probably.
There's no doubt.
Probably.
No doubt in my mind.
phil labonte
I mean, the Soviets literally had to make posters in Ukraine during the, I think it was in like the 30s or something, during the Holodomor, saying, don't eat your kids!
Don't eat your kids!
Like, come on!
tim pool
That's crazy.
joshua smith
That's I just like to I want to go back to the term constitutional Republican.
I really liked that term.
I'm doing a, I'm recording and editing an audio book for the great David Benner, who
wrote Thomas Paine, The Life of Radicalism, books out on Amazon, but I'll have the audio
book out soon.
And I never really, you never really hear that term constitutional Republican or Republicanism
in 2023, but it's all throughout that book.
ian crossland
It's so important because the subversive thing about naming these political parties, the
Republican Party or the Democrat doesn't mean that they're, they value the Republic at all.
You can call your party whatever you want.
It doesn't mean that you are that just like these stupid bills, the Save Puppies Act when
they're so, but it does now, interestingly.
Sometimes, like, you find the people that are geared towards the Constitution to tend towards the Republican Party, and that the Democrats are more about mob rule and mob control, but that doesn't mean that they value democracy if they're trying to shut people's voices down.
They're not Democrats.
tim pool
But democracy is the oppression of the majority.
ian crossland
But you still let the others talk.
You still have to let them all speak.
tim pool
No, you don't.
unidentified
In order for democracy to reign, you would, otherwise it's tainted.
joshua smith
So democracy has given us what we have today.
tim pool
We've not had democracy.
joshua smith
Not entirely.
ian crossland
Not mob democracy.
tim pool
The founding fathers were terrified of it.
ian crossland
51% can take the food away from the other 49%.
tim pool
Right, we've always been a constitutional republic with elected representatives.
Some states have their proposition system, which is democratic to a great degree, but what got us here is liberalism.
Liberalism's a great thing, but too many people just said, you know, I'm gonna mind my own business and not fight.
I don't blame liberalism.
I think the true sense of liberalism, the Founding Fathers and their views, classical liberalism, should be defended.
I just think the issue is weak men make hard times.
And the generations before us allowed communists to come in and do these things.
ian crossland
And corporations.
tim pool
Because this is the point.
It's like what I was saying about what's going on in West Virginia.
The people who live in these places believe in the Constitutional Republic, so they follow the rules.
The Marxists do not and don't follow the rules.
It's like playing a game of Monopoly, where you're watching the opponent just take money from the bank, and you're like, you can't do that, and they go, I can, and you go, okay, I guess.
ian crossland
Right.
tim pool
Well, I would never do that.
It's like, well, no, no crap, you're losing.
They're cheating!
joshua smith
That's what people tell me when I say I want to get rid of the NFA and ban the NICS, right?
And people are like, well, then criminals are going to be able to do this and do that.
And I'm like, they're already doing that.
Go to Chicago, man.
They got 50 round magazines on their Glocks with an illegal switch.
tim pool
Yeah, fall out.
joshua smith
All it does is keep me from not being able to switch on my Glock.
phil labonte
I am so jealous!
I'm so jealous.
joshua smith
We all are.
phil labonte
I want machine gun Glocks.
tim pool
They have kids running around with full auto Glocks with extended mags.
joshua smith
Yeah, 50 round magazines.
phil labonte
And I can't have one.
joshua smith
And we can't have one because it's illegal.
And come on, those laws don't do anything but make sure that those criminals, thugs, have those guns, and I don't.
tim pool
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You know, I look at some of these shows and I wonder how they get so big, and recently I've noticed something really interesting.
I don't know if you guys have noticed this.
People are running their podcasts as advertisements on YouTube now.
Full, two-hour-long shows.
ian crossland
Oh, awesome.
tim pool
But it's insane.
I'm like, I'm trying to listen to music, and then all of a sudden I hear a guy talking about what's going on.
I look and it's like, ad will be done in one hour and thirty-seven minutes.
I'm like, what?! !
My man!
unidentified
I do not like that.
It's because, yeah, when you're trying to clean the house and you put music on, you know it's going to autoplay.
Well, then you're like, wait a second, I've been listening to a guy talk for ten minutes.
phil labonte
Yup!
unidentified
Two hours.
tim pool
But you know what?
If one in a hundred people say, oh, this is pretty good, I like it, subscribe, the ad works, and they cost a penny.
unidentified
Yup.
tim pool
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We've never done that.
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Let's read!
I'm not your buddy, guys, as it's fairly unnerving knowing the fate... the fate, humanity, and whether liberty will mean anything going forward will be determined fairly soon here.
ian crossland
It's being determined as we speak.
It is.
tim pool
That's just right.
That's right.
History has been... is happening all around you, my friends.
joshua smith
It is unnerving, but are you ready to fight?
I mean, that's really what the question comes down to.
Are you ready to push back?
Are you ready to continue voting the way you've been voting for the last 50 years?
tim pool
Look, you know, let's go back five years.
Let's go back to 2018.
Let's go back to 2019.
And I'm sitting in my little desk saying, like, food prices are going up.
There's going to be food shortages.
There's conflict happening.
You guys need to speak up.
I wonder now how many people who heard me say that and said, I don't know, I don't want to risk it, are now looking at their grocery bill being like, I wish I said something five years ago.
ian crossland
I'm one of those people that spoke up because of you.
I wouldn't be here with this show if you didn't want to get it started.
tim pool
There you go.
But I just think if more people in say 2019 or 2020 Did come out and say, I will not stand for these things, then Donald Trump would have stayed president, and we would be in a very, very different spot.
No money going to Ukraine for this crazy war.
We'd have better security on the southern border.
Donald Trump was bringing manufacturing back.
He's far from a perfect candidate.
But we got more peace in the Middle East, no new wars, a lot of really good things.
I would be willing to bet a large sum of money.
You can't prove it.
But I'd be willing to bet that if Donald Trump was president right now, you would not be crying over your groceries.
You would not be seeing these TikTok videos of people being like, I can't afford this anymore!
joshua smith
I was crying over toilet paper when Donald Trump was still in office.
tim pool
COVID's a different story, and you can blame Trump for a lot of what happened with COVID for sure, but I just mean, like, if people just...
We're more active and spoke up more and pushed back socially.
ian crossland
Huge groundswell of change.
It happens so fast.
It happens horizontally as well as vertically.
tim pool
42,000 votes was all Trump needed in three states.
That's it.
ian crossland
Yeah.
joshua smith
It's going to take a big push for sure.
tim pool
But I think Trump's on track to win.
If you look at the polling right now, he's rivaling Biden.
Biden's up by 0.8% in the RCP average.
McLaughlin has Trump up by one or two points and in swing states up by like six or seven.
A lot's gonna change from now until then, but that's why they're going after him to get his name off the ballot, because they know they will lose.
unidentified
Alright.
tim pool
Jason Dixon says, hey Tim, can you please promote the Discord after our show?
We'll continue the show long after you're asleep.
Only in Discord, all are welcome.
That's right, ladies and gentlemen.
When you become a member by going to TimCast.com and clicking join us, you get access to the Discord server, where you can hang out with like-minded individuals who are doing a whole bunch of crazy awesome stuff.
One of the things they do is they have the After After Show, where members hang out and host their own show After we're long done.
It's one of the coolest things ever.
joshua smith
That's neat.
tim pool
Super excited.
Yeah, there's a lot of the Discord community that we have.
They are doing a lot of really cool things.
Meeting each other, becoming friends, building culture, building community.
It's one of the coolest things about being a member at TimCast.com.
unidentified
True, like, grassroots organization right there through the power of the internet.
You know, it's really cool to see.
tim pool
All right.
Waffle Sensei says, Just wanted to make a point about Vivek getting booed at the debate.
He gets booed when he says, I'm the only candidate not bought and paid for.
When he says climate change is a hoax, they cheer.
Check the tapes.
Okay.
unidentified
All right.
I hear you.
ian crossland
They booed Trump, too, when he was talking about all the donors in the audience.
And he was like, these are the donors that are booing me that I'm talking about.
tim pool
All right.
Europa Chronicle says, Tim, on August 16th, the FBI killed a second disabled veteran, Theodore Deschler, in a pre-dawn raid.
In the two weeks since, the FBI has been completely silent.
They haven't given the reason for the raid.
Please help shine a light on the issue.
Interesting.
Let's see here.
Give me one second.
unidentified
There we go.
tim pool
Alright, where are we at?
Uh-oh.
Okay, there we go.
YouTube likes to do this thing where it refreshes.
Alright, Neglectful Sausage says, Reboot Robot Mitch.
Maga, make animatronics great again.
God's Other Son says, I want to see Vivek run as VP, mostly because I want to see a debate between him and Kamala.
unidentified
Yikes.
joshua smith
That would be fun to watch.
tim pool
That would be crazy.
joshua smith
She'd get squashed real bad.
He's very articulate, for sure.
Even if I'm very weary of the things he's saying, I think he's very articulate.
unidentified
I really want to see him debate Trump because I think competition's only good.
He's so good on that stage and it'll force Trump to be better.
joshua smith
Trump's going to shut him down with comedy, though.
unidentified
It'll never happen.
joshua smith
It'll be fun.
unidentified
I think he can roll with the punches unlike most other people on the stage, though.
joshua smith
He's not going to be like Chris Christie.
unidentified
No.
joshua smith
That's for sure.
ian crossland
Plus, Trump didn't know he couldn't shut down the FBI, because his deep state advisors told him, no, you can't fire people individually, Trump.
And he didn't read the law, he just gave up.
Vivek will annihilate him on that, that he doesn't read.
joshua smith
Yeah, that's true.
unidentified
That's true.
joshua smith
What I got to read for?
ian crossland
Not a statesman.
joshua smith
I'm not here to read.
tim pool
Loyal Snoop Doge says, this country could use a revival of McCarthyism.
phil labonte
I mean, at least the attitude.
joshua smith
Yeah, we definitely need that culture and attitude back, for sure.
The time to be weary and alert about communism has come and passed.
It's time to start pushing back on stuff.
phil labonte
Yeah, there's a significant problem in the United States, and it's not getting any better by saying, oh, it's not a problem.
joshua smith
You know the Pirates of the Caribbean, where he's like, you believe in...
Do you believe in scary movies?
phil labonte
Do you believe in cultural revolutions yet?
You best start because you're living through one.
tim pool
Jake Phillips says Tarrio and his lawyer blamed Trump for January 6th in court.
Some of us think his sentencing got delayed so he can testify against Trump.
I doubt he'll get pardoned.
Interesting.
joshua smith
That would be an interesting... Yeah.
tim pool
I won't be surprised.
I mean Enrique Tarrio wasn't even there.
That's the crazy thing.
He got arrested before or something like that.
joshua smith
Yeah, I don't know.
unidentified
It was the day before?
joshua smith
I guarantee you that Trump's not going to pardon him at that point.
unidentified
I think it was the day before he was arrested?
Yeah.
I can't remember, but yeah, he wasn't.
joshua smith
There's a conspiracy theory that he's some kind of informant already, so.
tim pool
He was before.
ian crossland
I gotta clarify my earlier statement.
Donald Trump does read.
I just don't think he's ever read the Constitution or laws or anything like that.
phil labonte
You think Donald Trump reads?
ian crossland
People in the comments are like, he reads!
Of course he reads!
unidentified
How many Americans do you think have actually read the Constitution?
phil labonte
He may be able to read, but he does not read.
He watches TV.
tim pool
When people talk about the Constitution, they are only ever referring to the Bill of Rights.
joshua smith
Most people.
tim pool
Most, yeah.
I would, like, 99%.
Yeah.
Because of the Constitution, we have blah, blah, blah, blah.
It's like, okay, are you talking about, like, the distribution of powers?
Are you talking about, like, Article 2?
Are you talking about Article 5?
What are you talking about in the Constitution?
Oh, you're talking about Amendment No.
unidentified
1.
joshua smith
Yeah.
Article 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th.
That's it.
That's all we know.
tim pool
I like the 3rd.
The 3rd's great.
There's an argument.
We were talking about this.
The Third Amendment doesn't just mean that soldiers can't be quartered in your home.
ian crossland
Right.
tim pool
It means you are free from government influence in your own home.
joshua smith
Yes.
Supposed to be.
tim pool
Right.
ian crossland
Then the internet appeared.
joshua smith
Right.
ian crossland
Well, first telephones appeared and wiretaps became a thing.
tim pool
No, but the issue is the government can't do anything in your house.
It's not about a soldier being there.
It's also interpreted as, or it should be interpreted as, the government can't say something like, we need to put this listening device in your house because we're in the middle of an investigation.
ian crossland
I keep the listening device in their house, and then they use it on you when you're in your house, and they read your keystrokes and crap.
joshua smith
My favorite are the people who are like, oh, we have to interpret this amendment this way, or the bill of rights this way, because the founders didn't give us any guidelines on them.
I'm like, you know the Federalist Papers?
They literally explain why they were doing these things in separate documents.
So there is explanations of these things if you just go and look them up, you know, and there's a lot of books about those other papers that that help you learn how to read them.
tim pool
So I like this chat from Mistress Dap in the regular old chat saying Maga Swami Vivek Maga Swami.
We were saying that Trump would call him Rama Swampy.
joshua smith
Yeah, he would, for sure.
He'd find something interesting.
tim pool
But Vivek's playing the campaign very, very well.
And now, Trump said something like he would consider him for VP.
unidentified
Oh, lately?
tim pool
He said no way.
phil labonte
I forget who I was listening to today, but I was listening to someone talking to Trump, and he was talking about how Vivek was the only guy that he would kind of like It would be nice to, but also Vivek's the only guy that hasn't attacked him.
joshua smith
He's also the only guy that raised his hand to pardon Trump, until DeSantis looked around and realized, oh, so just be true.
tim pool
Well, no, no, to be fair, Nikki Haley quickly does raise her hand halfway.
Vivek goes right up, hand as high as possible.
Nikki Haley then raises her hand, and then it cascades to the right, and then Ron looks, looks, and then half hold, half up.
ian crossland
You know, Ron explained himself in another video, which probably didn't get nearly as many views, where he said, we already decided beforehand we weren't going to do the stupid hand raise thing, and then when they asked the question, and they did it, I'm like, Oh my god, you guys are really doing this?
Alright, fine.
joshua smith
That was very smart then.
Someone agreed to not do it and then did it.
That was very smart in a debate.
ian crossland
That's the snake.
unidentified
They're like, come on guys, we're gonna punk Ron.
tim pool
It wasn't Vivek who did that, it was what, Brett Baer and Martha McCallum?
ian crossland
Yes, I don't know.
I don't know who agreed with Ron ahead of time that they weren't gonna do the hand raise thing.
tim pool
It's like that thing where, uh, it's from the Simpsons, Bart convinces, he tells all the other kids, let's prank the teacher and turn all our desks around, and they're like, yeah!
And when the teacher walks in, he's the only one who did it.
And then they're like, Bart, detention is like, ah!
joshua smith
Yes, exactly!
It was a good setup, man.
Good setup and execution for sure, there's no doubt about it.
If that's really what it was, that was good.
tim pool
All right, Jonathan Harris says, incorrect about China.
Taiwan is where the former rulers fled to when the rogues led by Chairman Mao took over.
Taiwan also has the latest chip fabs that give the U.S.
an edge in A.I.
and tech in general.
ian crossland
That is the Republic of China, the actual, real government of China.
The occupying force is the CCP, which has control of the mainland at present.
joshua smith
Well, here's the thing, too.
AMD can make those same chips in Austin, Texas.
I used to work for a company that built the robots that made these semiconductors, right?
Like, we'd ship them over to China, the robots that make these things, and then China would make them and send them back to the United States.
It's ridiculous.
It's all just this whole thing is just a tripwire for war in my opinion and and honestly We we should be making those things at home.
We have cobalt mines here.
We have silica mines here We have all the same stuff.
It's not like we can't make those here We just concerned about unions here concern about pollution the manufacturing.
phil labonte
I guess prices.
joshua smith
There's well They get they get a lot cheaper labor there.
phil labonte
I'm sure slave labor wages and stuff, but it's like it's like who are close No, Taiwan, I don't think Taiwan has slave labor.
I know that you get that kind of stuff in China and stuff, but in Taiwan, if I understand correctly, because it's a Western-style democracy, I think that there is protections for workers and stuff like that.
joshua smith
There are road profits.
phil labonte
Pardon me?
joshua smith
They're a rogue province.
phil labonte
Yeah, but they style their government.
It treats their population the way that Western democracies do.
So I don't think that there's a situation with slave labor.
I imagine, you know, I mean, I could be wrong, but I don't think that they have the kind of deal where there's, you know, sweatshops full of people working for a dollar a day.
I don't think that their economy is that poor.
I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
tim pool
The sig piece is I have zero sympathy for these old politicians gripping onto their seat for dear life.
They should resign their seat and enjoy what time they have left.
All they are doing... All they are doing, placeholding for backdoor bureaucrats.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
tim pool
Yep, Mitch McConnell, time to resign.
What do they do, the governor appoints someone?
unidentified
I think the governor would appoint until there's an election?
joshua smith
There would be a special election, yeah.
I think that it would be a special election.
tim pool
I mean, in Illinois, Blagojevich went to prison because he would assign the Senate seat.
joshua smith
Yeah, I believe that there'd be a special election, and I'm sure there'd be three candidates trying to vie for that.
tim pool
Is that because it's Kentucky?
joshua smith
No, I think that's, well, yeah, probably.
tim pool
In Illinois, when Barack Obama got elected president, Blagojevich was like, I get to pick who the senator is.
And then he was like, and he's like, you gotta pay or whatever.
unidentified
That's Illinois for ya.
tim pool
Right, but I think the different states have different rules.
joshua smith
I'm sure they may.
Well, yeah, they have to, election rules.
tim pool
That's what they're saying about Pennsylvania, that if Fetterman gets removed for medical issues, the governor will just appoint a replacement.
joshua smith
That's bizarre.
Definitely doesn't work that way in Iowa for sure.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
Is that your home state?
joshua smith
I'm originally from California, but I've lived in Iowa since 2020.
I left my flight left San Francisco Airport at 1155 and at midnight they instituted a 24-hour lockdown.
I ran high tailed my girlfriend lived there at the time and so in Iowa and so I was like I'm just gonna come there for two weeks to flatten the curve.
I came with a backpack and a suitcase and now we've got seven kids and a whole huge life together.
tim pool
Seven kids in three years!
joshua smith
She had two, I had a daughter who didn't live with us that I had to invite for custody with.
We've made two and I adopted my oldest daughter when I got custody of her in 2020.
I adopted her two younger siblings that were going to go to foster care so I was able to get them.
So we went from having just her two girls in the house with a son on the way to having seven kids in the house and we do have one coming in December as well.
tim pool
Where would you place yourself in the abortion debate?
joshua smith
I am pro-life.
I am very, very, very pro-life.
And I do believe that, you know, murder is not good and that there should be some kind of punishment for doctors who commit murder.
unidentified
I heard Democrats told me you don't exist, that people that are pro-life don't adopt kids, don't look into the foster care.
joshua smith
No, I know more pro-life white Christian people that have adopted than anybody else.
And that's the truth.
And I'm not saying that as a racial thing, but, you know, whenever I hear these pro-life white You know, nuclear family.
Christians won't adopt.
I know so many that have adopted.
So many that have adopted.
But yeah, we took in my oldest daughter's two younger siblings.
phil labonte
You can't really trust what the left says about the right because the left really doesn't know anybody on the right.
They've already excommunicated them from their lives.
They're just like, oh no, you voted Donald Trump?
Get out of here.
I can't talk to you.
tim pool
Yeah, let's read.
We got this from Robert Bradbury.
New Hampshire is amazing.
Free state project and freedom.
Also, New Hampshire is one of the first states trying to remove Trump.
I'm not proud of my state.
Yeah, what's up with that?
phil labonte
I don't know.
The governor is a Republican.
He believes that Donald Trump being on the ballot is bad because Donald Trump can't win.
That's what he believes.
I'm not saying that that's what I believe.
tim pool
When these people, these Never Trumpers were like, Trump can't win, they're lying.
joshua smith
There's a lot of Republicans that are never Trumpers, too.
tim pool
That's what I'm saying.
There's a bunch of them.
The DeSantis surrogates and the DeSantis supporters saying Trump can't win.
It's gotta be DeSantis.
It's like Trump lost by 40,000 votes.
What do you mean he can't win?
Biden, his approval rating's in the gutter.
The economy is bad.
joshua smith
He's being held up by puppet strings.
tim pool
Right.
Of course Donald Trump can win.
He only needs to win a few states.
Look what they're doing, desperate to stop him.
I'm just sick of the lies that Trump can't win.
I'm not saying he's going to win tremendously.
You've got these polls where it's like Trump has 20% of the black vote.
And I'm like, I don't know about that.
Those polls are interesting, but I doubt that's a big if.
But it's like Trump barely won in 2016.
He barely lost in 2020.
It's a close race.
And you've even got CNN saying the data is showing that Trump is actually right now the favorite.
But it's like Democrats are like, guys, Trump might win.
And then you get these Never Trumpers like, nope, nope, he won't win.
He can't.
joshua smith
Well, they have to keep that narrative up to try and get their Republicans to not vote for Trump.
tim pool
I mean, yeah, because they're trying to get in DeSantis because he's the best they have.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's just it's just, oh, man, you know what I love?
Let's just let's just let's just go there quickly.
Laura Loomer does not work for Donald Trump.
right and so when she posts nonsense you're like i don't know whatever but the de santis crowd gets
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
super offended by it and then people who actually do work for de santis react similarly right and
then when people are like hey the official campaign you guys should not do this they go but
laura loomer did it and it's like okay look i'll also add this when the class clown is you know
throwing spit balls at the at the front board while making jokes and everyone's laughing
and you're enjoying the silliness and then the nerdy kid stands up turns around and starts yelling
at the class clown you're you're not gonna be the nerdy kid's not getting popularity like the preppy
joshua smith
little teacher's pet And Loomer is the class clown in this situation.
tim pool
Absolutely.
Supporters online, who do not work for Trump, are posting memes, making jokes.
When they said that Bill Mitchell looked like an aging lesbian, everyone online starts laughing hilariously.
It's a dig, it's an attack.
And then the response from the tennis people is, I am outraged!
How dare you insult me!
I now have carte blanche to insult everyone else!
And it's like, you're not being funny, you're not being funny.
You are getting played by these people and complaining about them, but you're making yourself look worse.
I'm sorry, man.
Look, I'm not saying it's good.
I'm saying Trump, they've been doing this for eight years.
The Trump supporters, for eight years, they have mastered the meme.
joshua smith
They trolled him into office.
tim pool
Exactly.
You're not going to compete by pouting and stomping your feet and saying it's not fair.
ian crossland
With Bruce, I think it was Alex Brucewitz that did the Aging lesbian joke?
Is he working with Trump right now?
Because he was before.
tim pool
He's part of X, I believe it's called X Strategies.
I think that's what it's called, I'm not sure.
But I don't think he's an official member of the campaign, but I'm not entirely sure.
joshua smith
My campaign's playing the troll and meme game.
It's a very important part of politics these days.
tim pool
There's no doubt about it.
You can't claim the right for your campaign's official staff to start insulting everyone because a handful of people Have insulted you.
joshua smith
Yeah.
tim pool
That's how you lose.
ian crossland
Getting triggered is a loss.
tim pool
At this point I'm like DeSantis deserves to lose because he won't fire these people and they keep doing it.
What happened today was this one guy posted an image where they did a search of all these different personalities, me included, about Hurricane Adalia and they were like these people, some of them living in Florida, won't even tweet about this for political reasons.
Get the hell out of this state or whatever.
I don't even live in Florida.
And I had just recorded a video where I was praising DeSantis' response in Florida, and I'm like, look, man, I'm sorry.
The DeSantis surrogates are trying to get him to lose.
That's the only explanation.
Because it's like, why would you lie?
Like, they lied about Matt Gaetz, and they lied about Vivek.
Matt Gaetz has been posting non-stop about the hurricane and disaster preparedness, even posting statements from Ron DeSantis.
And then you've got Vivek who said, you know, he gave credit to DeSantis saying, you're doing a good job, keep it up.
And then they put out these lies.
This guy, I don't know if he actually works for the campaign, but that's the accusation.
Because what they do is, they have these text groups where they send supporters memes to basically create I'll put it this way.
The Sonnenrad video, remember that one?
phil labonte
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
When, when DeSantis appears with the black sun.
joshua smith
Oh, the black sun bottom, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
phil labonte
Can you believe that that is called the Sonnenrad video now?
unidentified
But it is!
phil labonte
Obviously, yeah.
tim pool
And apparently what happened was the official campaign produced the video and then gave it to a third party saying, psst, post this and then we'll retweet it.
joshua smith
Yeah.
unidentified
Anyway.
tim pool
So dumb.
Anyway!
joshua smith
We have a nice little clip of that, uh, that part of that video in my campaign video, but it's just from just a quick glance we're talking about because we just make fun of all politicians.
tim pool
I am the emu says.
Shout out to Josh and crew.
Love from Sean Burton and the Burton family.
joshua smith
Oh, that's a very long time family friend.
unidentified
Awesome.
tim pool
Nice.
joshua smith
Thank you.
tim pool
Neeboop says 50 round mags and full auto handguns.
Stop, I can only get so hard.
joshua smith
We coming baby, we coming.
tim pool
Those videos when they're running around them are crazy.
joshua smith
It's like it comes all the way down like... The truth is they're so hard to control.
unidentified
Oh yeah, they're just spraying like it's nuts.
phil labonte
For you.
Whatever.
Alright, Acoustic Theory says we are closer to Weimar than ever before.
joshua smith
They will say Trump is our Hitler, destined to rise out of political strife.
I'm a spaghetti guy, carrying 92X all the time.
RDO.
I don't have a red dot on it though.
tim pool
Alright, Acoustic Theory says we are closer to Weimar than ever before.
They will say Trump is our Hitler, destined to rise out of political strife.
Because of their arrogance, the left can't see themselves in the mirror.
They know what they're doing.
ian crossland
They're communists.
And getting close to something doesn't mean you're more likely to arrive there because things can swivel back and forth.
We are pretty close to Weimar, but we're on the edge of an energy revolution where we start using hydrogen fuel and dipping the cost of fuel by like, you know, one one millionth of a cent.
Like, we might be able to drastically reduce the cost of fuel and energy, which could elevate our economy.
To a place that it has never been before.
unidentified
Do you think they'll do that, though?
Because we see with medicine, we know there's a lot of stuff that can be cured, and they're not in the business of curing humans.
They want us to stay sick.
Why would they give us the benefit of a major energy breakthrough?
Why wouldn't they just keep charging us, and just give us a little bit, a little bit, and they just reap the rewards?
ian crossland
To prevent a civil war?
unidentified
Do you really trust major energy companies to have humanity in their best interest?
ian crossland
Well, I mean, if you could leave it to the corporations, I don't think they'll, you know, help us out.
If the people in the government take control of our energy, it would be to prevent civil unrest, basically.
And update our f***ing Navy.
Jeez.
phil labonte
What?
ian crossland
Update the Navy, man.
We need better fuel sources.
That oil is so nasty.
And heavy.
joshua smith
Let's talk about DFM.
ian crossland
What's that?
joshua smith
DFM.
unidentified
What's DFM?
joshua smith
Diesel.
Like, diesel-powered.
ian crossland
Any of that petroleum-based stuff is just heavy and expensive.
phil labonte
I'm not sure why you want to spend that kind of money.
ian crossland
No, it doesn't cost money now.
They figured out with hydrogen, you take methane, which is CH4... Upgrading the Navy will cost money.
Well, it will cost resources, yeah.
But if we can acquire the resources, it's worth doing.
tim pool
And then who does the labor?
ian crossland
Humans!
tim pool
They'll have new jobs!
And what do you do to convince the human to do the job?
phil labonte
What's the reason?
tim pool
What do you mean, subsidize their energy?
Phil, I would like you to carry a heavy box down the stairs.
ian crossland
Oh, you pay them money.
phil labonte
Oh, money!
You say you want to update, but I don't understand because I feel like we have a state-of-the-art Navy.
It's not like our Navy is falling behind anyone, and we spend a boatload of money, so I'm not sure what you're looking to upgrade.
The big ships are nuclear-powered, like your submarines and your aircraft carriers, and I think some of your destroyers.
I'm not sure what you're looking to upgrade.
There's going to be some fossil fuels that they have.
unidentified
Are you saying get them all off fossil fuels?
tim pool
Getting off oil is impossible because of lubricants.
phil labonte
That's why I'm asking what he's talking about.
tim pool
When they talk about wind turbines, they don't realize you need oil.
joshua smith
Those ships have so much lube oil in them.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
joshua smith
I fought a lube oil fire for two and a half days on a carrier with the Navy.
ian crossland
Wow.
tim pool
There's lube everywhere.
joshua smith
That's a lot of lube.
ian crossland
It's a risk to have all that oil on a ship.
phil labonte
You know what they say about the Navy.
ian crossland
It's so flammable.
I mean, hydrogen's flammable too, but it's also very lightweight and can be discharged pretty easily.
tim pool
I want to read one more Super Chat before we go, and it's from the Bonus Holes.
He says, definitely don't add our band on X. Add the bonus holes.
The algorithm would not like it if you did.
That's a cool name.
And just on that note, I just wanted to mention that video that Phil put up of him performing in front of this sold out massive stadium was just absolutely epic.
phil labonte
It was awesome and I was super, super fortunate to be able to do it, so.
tim pool
People should check that out on, uh, what's your, what's your, what's your ex account?
phil labonte
I am, uh, PhilThatRemainsOnEx.
tim pool
Yeah, that video, it's just bonkers to see that.
joshua smith
What a dream, man.
phil labonte
Dream come true.
Yeah, dream, I mean, look, Metallica's the biggest band in the world.
They're the biggest metal band ever.
I've been a metalhead since I was a kid, so obviously it was a dream come true, and I'm just super happy that I could help my friends out.
tim pool
And you opened right before Metallica.
So basically, everyone's piling in to watch your set, to actually watch Metallica.
joshua smith
They weren't even hammered yet.
ian crossland
Did they call you on Wednesday and were like, can you come do this show?
phil labonte
Zoltan sent me a text when I was doing PCC on Thursday, and I was like, hold on, I'm doing a podcast.
I talked to him on Thursday night.
I had to come here and do the podcast at night.
I talked to him afterwards and he's like, hey, can you get on a plane?
So I was like, yeah.
So I went and drove to my apartment, grabbed Django, drove to New England to drop her off so that my roommate up at my place in New Hampshire can watch the dog, jumped on a flight, flew to LA, got there on Saturday, played on Sunday, got on a plane on Monday, flew back, grabbed the dog, drove back down here yesterday and I'm here now.
tim pool
All right, everybody.
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You can follow the show at TimCast IRL, basically everywhere.
You can follow me personally everywhere at TimCast.
Josh, do you want to shout anything out?
joshua smith
Yeah, sure.
You guys follow me at Twitter.
It's at Joshua at large, all spelled out.
And then, of course, the campaign website is joshuasmith2024.com.
I saw a lot of people asking about this hoodie.
It says a vote for vengeance and it is for sale on our campaign website.
tim pool
Right on.
phil labonte
I am Phil Labonte.
I am PhilThatRemains on X. I am PhilThatRemainsOfficial on Instagram.
The band is All That Remains.
You can check us out on Apple Music, Spotify, Amazon Music, Pandora, YouTube, you know, the internet, man.
ian crossland
And I'm Ian Crossland.
You guys, check out the TimCast IRL live event in Miami coming up October 6th.
I believe it is October 6th.
We got Donald Trump Jr., Matt Gaetz, Patrick Bette David, hosted by Tim Pool and Luke Rudkowski.
I'll be there.
More guests, more people to name.
And you can go to TheTimCast.com, hit the banner at the top to go buy a ticket.
Also, I'm very serious about retrofitting our economy to start using hydrogen fuel.
They had a huge breakthrough where they're able to split methane and turn the carbon aspect of it into graphene and the hydrogen aspect into fuel.
So it actually makes money to make hydrogen.
You come out with a product that you can sell.
And we're just about raising awareness.
It's my pinned tweet on X, so check it out and follow me there at Ian Crossland.
unidentified
You guys can follow me on ExitKellenPDL, and last Friday we had Fresh N' Fit and they said, no one watches women's sports.
Well, Nebraska Volleyball just set the world record for largest attendance at a women's sporting event.
It was like 92,000.
Whoa!
Yeah, lots of people like women's volleyball.
tim pool
They're making you look bad, Scott.
unidentified
It's crazy.
joshua smith
I wonder why.
phil labonte
Women's volleyball is awesome, okay?
Like, they're not in bad shape.
It is a fun watch, man.
tim pool
But I've seen some really good videos.
You see those crazy videos where it's like the ball's in play for like a minute.
They're all just diving.
I'm like, wow.
They're badasses.
Yes, did you shut your... Yeah, yeah, I did.
unidentified
Kellen PDL.
Thanks, guys.
tim pool
All right, everybody.
We will see you all over at TimCast.com in about a minute.
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