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We got that sumbitch! | ||
That guy who torched that sign, we got him. | ||
We got an update. | ||
Benny Johnson interviewed John Cain with some updates. | ||
And there's still some controversy surrounding this. | ||
So I want to play a portion of his interview Benny did with John Cain. | ||
John Cain, the homeowner who had his Trump sign burned. | ||
For those who aren't familiar, here's the context. | ||
Some psychotic anti-Trump Democrat was riding his bike past this guy's house. | ||
He sees a Trump 1 sign. | ||
Kicks it. | ||
Comes back a day later. | ||
Sets it on fire. | ||
Comes back three days later. | ||
Sets it on fire again. | ||
This dude's been caught. | ||
He's been charged with... What was it? | ||
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It was just at night. | |
It was like 4 in the morning. | ||
When he came back. | ||
Just so people understand, the day later. | ||
But I think there was like a day gap. | ||
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Oh, a day gap. | |
But still at like 3 in the morning. | ||
Yeah, it was like the 13th and he came back on the 15th. | ||
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Okay, but it's still only 3 in the morning. | |
Yeah. | ||
4-20. | ||
4-20, I'll never forget. | ||
It was 4-19 and then 4-20. | ||
So, he's being charged with two misdemeanors, and here's the clip from Benny Johnson. | ||
What's going to happen to this guy? | ||
Is there any updates on, will he be charged? | ||
Will he be sued? | ||
Give us the legal aspect. | ||
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Yeah, so, some good, some bad. | |
So, the good first, my attorney worked hard and we filed a civil lawsuit against him last night. | ||
He'll be served by the Wake County Sheriff today. | ||
Raleigh PD got the detective assigned to it, went and met with him. | ||
I was told that he cried and was very remorseful. | ||
But he said that he didn't know who I was. | ||
It was just anger at the Trump sign. | ||
And when the officer told me that, I said, he didn't know who I was. | ||
I'm an American. | ||
That's all I am. | ||
I don't care if I was Bill Gates or living under a bridge. | ||
I'm an American. | ||
So that told me he wasn't remorseful. | ||
He was sad he got caught. | ||
And so the Wake County District Attorney, who is a Democrat, has not been a Soros-like Democrat, as far as I know, has decided to charge him not with two felony, two counts of felony arson, which the statute clearly applies here 100%, but to two misdemeanor counts of injury to real property, which will carry no jail time. | ||
It is a blatant undercharge, and the basis for that, the district attorney is saying that because the sign was affixed to the ground, it's treated as real property, not personal property, which changes how they would charge in North Carolina. | ||
It is a gross miscarriage of the law. | ||
It is clearly a DA playing politics and undercharging this gentleman so that he will not serve time as as he should. | ||
Uh so it it is um what folks that live around here ought to think about is that what's happening here in this under charge and so what your house didn't burn it's just a sign it doesn't have that much value okay those things are true but look at any other major city in this country that has gone to hell Look at San Francisco. | ||
What happened there? | ||
Well, they changed a misdemeanor to steal less than $1,000. | ||
So what happens? | ||
People steal less than $1,000. | ||
Look at Seattle. | ||
Look at Portland. | ||
When you don't apply the rule of law, the same to everyone, and you don't actually charge a crime for what it is, you encourage more of that activity. | ||
And that's what this DA is doing. | ||
That's the whole point of lungs. | ||
Yeah, I mean, wow. | ||
It's really, it's really, this guy's really lucky, Jim White, that he didn't go sightsee at the United States Capitol on the morning of January 6th, because he'd be in federal prison for the next 20 years. | ||
But you can burn down, you can light someone's home on fire, effectively, with their sleeping children inside, and get a slap on the wrist. | ||
I thought that, I thought that North Carolina was a place for good old fashioned... Well, so, here's the good news. | ||
Have, um, finalized the legal process to pay out the reward, so that is... What's that? | ||
It's an old killer. | ||
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
This is the crazy thing, like... | ||
People need- I don't want to go into the details of it, but it is not as simple as, like, oh, you found the guy, here's a check. | ||
We can't do that. | ||
You cannot do that. | ||
So, talked to a lawyer, wrote up the requisite documents, and then contacted the gentleman after we confirmed his identity with legal, and we've begun the process by which he will be paid out, which means the exact transfer of funds should happen in, like, the next couple of hours. | ||
It's hard because people are like, why don't you just sell him or like Venmo? | ||
Because you can't. | ||
There's considerations as to what it means to offer someone a reward. | ||
And so there's like tax implications and things like that. | ||
So there's legal requirements as to how you pay them. | ||
You can't just write someone a check. | ||
Do you get taxed when you hand the reward over? | ||
I have to pay taxes and he has to pay taxes. | ||
Yeah. | ||
You don't just get to keep, you get money. | ||
Yeah, so I'm not exactly sure how it's, uh, categorized. | ||
We just have accounting and legal taking care of it. | ||
He also had to, like, sign a form, and then, you know, our accountants handle the money transfer, whatever. | ||
But, um, there's the good news. | ||
We caught the guy. | ||
He's not getting away with it. | ||
He's being sued civilly. | ||
That's something there. | ||
I'm not so sure I agree with this being an, uh, an undercharge, though. | ||
Because this guy, Jim White, probably has no record, And the DA has to consider, if this guy goes into court, are they going to be lenient on him? | ||
And if I overcharge him, say two counts of arson, do they throw it out entirely? | ||
And just say, that's ridiculous, he burned a flag effectively, arson, you want to put him in prison for 15 years over this? | ||
And they'll dismiss it. | ||
I think you're right. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
I actually, you know, ethically think there's something to it, too. | ||
If he has no prior issues at all legally, you give him the misdemeanors, you fine him, sue him, whatever, and then if he does it again, arson. | ||
This is pointless, right? | ||
But, I mean, the point that I'm making is it doesn't really matter, but, like, if it were a Trump supporter burning Biden stuff, There is a strong likelihood that the prosecutor would be throwing the book at them. | ||
Domestic terrorism charge. | ||
Yeah, there might even be domestic terrorism. | ||
Yeah, honestly. | ||
But I truly, truly believe that if the roles were reversed... | ||
And it's so tiresome to say that because we live in a consistent, you know, double standard legal system, you know, that the people on the right are treated differently to people on the left. | ||
And it's just exhausting. | ||
It's true. | ||
Benny's right, though. | ||
If this guy went onto Capitol grounds with his bike and no lighter, he'd be in prison. | ||
Yeah. | ||
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Well, yeah. | |
That's freaking nuts, man. | ||
Yeah. | ||
But I don't know, what do you guys think? | ||
Do you think that this psychotic anti-Trump guy is indicative of an escalation? | ||
I don't... No, I think it kind of pulled the curtain back on some of the dumb shit that's been happening. | ||
And he feels super embarrassed about it. | ||
This guy, John, what's his name? | ||
John... Jim White. | ||
Jim White is the guy, the burner. | ||
I think he's humiliated right now and will probably never do it again. | ||
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Oh, that's a lot of assumption. | |
I'm not convinced. | ||
This could just fucking wreck his peaceful, normie life. | ||
Not if he gets a light sentence. | ||
The point of not giving him a heavy sentence isn't because of what would happen to his life. | ||
It's because you don't believe that you can get the charges to stick. | ||
Right? | ||
So it's like, the argument being made, or at least the argument that we're making as to why he shouldn't be over, why they wouldn't overcharge him is because they don't want to stick. | ||
Not because it's not worth it. | ||
You know? | ||
I mean, it's still arson. | ||
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What do you think? | ||
It seems like peak 2016, like Trump derangement syndrome coming back and I think we were just talking about how the election cycle is starting to ramp up in all the various ways. | ||
I don't know. | ||
I mean, I think I can see both sides, but I don't know. | ||
I think the left is very good and very into making examples out of Republicans whenever they like just deviate out of line by like 0.00001% and the fact that we're even having this conversation about like, oh, What's the right thing to do here? | ||
It's because we're good people and we don't use incidents like these to really just try to destroy people's life. | ||
We try to parse through it, but... Yeah, that's a fair point, actually. | ||
There's probably a ton of Trump supporters who on their first offense with no charges, like those Proud Boys up in New York. | ||
They get into a fight with Antifa and now they get four years. | ||
This guy sets fire to a guy's property... Twice! | ||
And it's like no jail time. | ||
Two times in two days he did it. | ||
What the fuck? | ||
Yeah, well, you know, the world's ending. | ||
I think it's great. | ||
Nah, the world's good. | ||
No, it's all over. | ||
Humans are weird. | ||
It's all over. | ||
Give up. | ||
No, I don't know. | ||
Crazy people are gonna do crazy things. | ||
But I certainly think, expect to see more of this as we go into 2024. | ||
Sign burning? | ||
Violence. | ||
Violence and attempted murder and arson and other crazy shit. | ||
Remember that last year or last election season, there were people that were electrifying their signs and people were grabbing them, you know? | ||
There was one story where a guy put spikes under it and then a woman hit it with her car and it busted her tires out. | ||
Oh my gosh. | ||
No step on the snack. | ||
Yeah, this actually happened to some family of mine. | ||
People kept ripping out the Trump sign, so Vaseline was placed all over it, and then it stopped. | ||
You need a Trump hologram in your front yard so no one can break it. | ||
A Trump hologram doing that dance? | ||
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Yeah. | |
That is the- yes. | ||
Oh my god, I want that. | ||
Like, if I could get, like, you know, the dancing Santas and stuff, I would love- because he does the same dance all the time! | ||
You could totally do that, like- oh, I would love it. | ||
Yeah, it's great. | ||
I love it. | ||
Who taught that guy to dance? | ||
We need hologram signage now. | ||
Yeah. | ||
No, I don't think the world's actually ending. | ||
I just think that you can expect to see a lot more of this coming up in 2024. | ||
The far left is going to get absolutely insane. | ||
Yep. | ||
I think this is an example of a guy did some horrible shit, burned a dude's sign in his front yard twice, and someone, some citizen, gave a shit enough to make a big deal out of it and issue a reward to find the guy that burned the sign. | ||
That's an awesome story. | ||
Now, whether or not this guy gets the book thrown at him or not, I don't know. | ||
He'll probably never do it again. | ||
I'd be shocked. | ||
He's probably shitting himself right now for something he thought wasn't a big deal. | ||
Unless the DA says, look, I hate the guy. | ||
You know, so I think it's funny. | ||
But, you know, you gotta do something. | ||
So we'll give you a slap on the wrist. | ||
And he's probably smiling, being like, oh, all right. | ||
No jail time. | ||
If you slap on the rest, you're going to be fine. | ||
The Hunter Biden treatment. | ||
It really depends on who the, it depends on the court. | ||
And the people he hang out with are going to high five him. | ||
Oh yeah. | ||
I think the issuing rewards. | ||
They're going to be like, yeah, we saw the video, dude. | ||
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Fuck yeah! | |
And they're going to fist bump him. | ||
The issuing rewards to people that turn in criminals is pretty interesting. | ||
And it doesn't have to be like a high profile issuance every time because then it puts targets on the people that are issuing the money. | ||
But like, it could be a crowdfunded thing that maybe you and Benny could work to set up or somebody could set something up where you could donate a dollar a month. | ||
I'm glad Benny jumped on it. | ||
What's that? | ||
I'm glad Benny jumped on it too. | ||
I think we're the only ones, aside from John, who are like, yo, let's catch this guy. | ||
This is the shit that blows my mind. | ||
So we want to do this skateboard thing where I'm like, we'll put 20 grand towards this. | ||
Let's fucking change someone's life. | ||
And they're like, no. | ||
All three organizers hit up our guy at the same time saying no. | ||
And I'm like, okay. | ||
But outside of that, fine, fuck it, whatever. | ||
Benny goes down to East Palestine and he gives out 20 grand. | ||
Where is anyone else? | ||
Betty and I are not the richest people in the world. | ||
We're doing well. | ||
He's got a big channel with a million plus subs. | ||
We've got our channel, a million plus subs. | ||
We're doing well enough to do cool shit like this, to track down evil people or nasty people, to give rewards, to do things better for the community. | ||
Where the fuck is everybody else? | ||
Rogan's doing it. | ||
He's doing his comedy club. | ||
That's kind of a benefit to society. | ||
I half agree. | ||
He is doing the comedy club. | ||
It is a lot of work and I can respect that. | ||
But I'm saying like, yo, Rogan's got a hundred times the money that I got. | ||
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He could do a lot. | |
He could be doing bigger, crazier shit than he does. | ||
I'm not saying he has to. | ||
I'm just saying he could. | ||
He doesn't have to do it. | ||
I'm just saying, where is everybody else? | ||
Not everybody's motivated to influence culture the way that you are, though. | ||
That's one of the things that you do here, and that's one of the reasons why, like, I was like, oh, you know, I would like to be involved with what you guys got going on. | ||
is because it's not just about, oh, I'm doing a podcast, you know, and Joe is an influential guy, but he's not going out of his way to say, I'm going to do other creative projects. | ||
He just wants to hang out with his friends and have conversations, which is cool and more power to him. | ||
But we're trying to fix it. | ||
Yeah. | ||
You know, that's the thing. | ||
Joe, very few people who do. | ||
Yeah. | ||
He's not like he doesn't do it for a political goal. | ||
And honestly, he's not really ideologically motivated. | ||
This is trying to actually have a make a mark. | ||
And so I think the reason the difference is people that are looking to try to change things are that technically kind of fall into an activist area. | ||
That's what, you know, the whole Tim cast project is about. | ||
And I think that Benny's probably like that, whereas Joe isn't really a political guy. | ||
And someone just pointed out Potato says Rogan pays comics way more than normal. | ||
No, for sure. | ||
Good for him. | ||
Like Joe's putting the money like he's helping a lot of people and comedy mothership is really really good in affecting culture because cancelled comics or comics that are scared to make jokes don't kind of worry about that with comedy mothership. | ||
Yeah. | ||
So that's why I'm saying I half agree on the Rogan issue. | ||
He is doing awesome shit and his podcast alone does a lot so I'm not I'm not gonna talk about Joe Rogan in this regard but there's a lot of other people Who are on Twitter, who got lots of money, and could be doing anything. | ||
I mean, come on, look. | ||
I saw the videos that all for five grand. | ||
Benny was like, count me in. | ||
And I'm just like, anybody else? | ||
I don't want to start calling out all my rich friends, but I want to talk about it in private, kind of. | ||
Who are they? | ||
Who are the people, and what could they be doing? | ||
I mean, obviously, I should put my money where my mouth is if I'm going to call people out by name. | ||
So first person that comes to mind is Jack Pasobic. | ||
What the fuck, Jack? | ||
No, I'm just kidding. | ||
Is Jack rich though? | ||
I don't know, I don't know. | ||
But I wonder if there's people that are sitting on like a million dollars a month income or something that only spend 2% of it and they're like just accruing funny money right now and like what could they be doing? | ||
Maybe they're even wondering what could I be doing? | ||
Most people, they make the money, they store it, they invest it, and then they do their shit. | ||
Without calling out any individual host of any other show, there are a lot of conservative commentators and pundits who are making fuck tons of money. | ||
Not a million bucks a month, Ian. | ||
We're talking three to five million a month. | ||
Good grief. | ||
Yeah, I know how much a lot of these guys are making. | ||
I'm not going to call them out. | ||
They can do whatever the fuck they want. | ||
I'm not here to drag anybody. | ||
I'm just here to say, I would expect more, but that's, that's why I'm like... You got to cut the path. | ||
You're clearing the path. | ||
It's basically, you're clearing a path. | ||
People like Benny, people that are doing it now, this will resonate for decades and people will start picking up the pattern. | ||
Well, let's, uh, let's go to callers. | ||
Let's see what y'all have to say. | ||
Okie doke. | ||
Indeed we shall. | ||
The Indian Jesus. | ||
I'd love to hear what your take is. | ||
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How are you doing? | |
Hello, hello! | ||
Thank you so much for taking my question and for everything you guys do. | ||
Of course, thank you. | ||
So, my question, you know, Vivek talks about the substitution theory, like if you have a God-sized hole in your heart, something is going to fill it. | ||
So my question is, why does the anti-woe conservative side of the culture war have something to fill it, specifically like an American identity? | ||
One that says we value community, family, gratitude, the types of things that you would find within Christianity, but also like capitalism, uh... patriotism and things that you know it doesn't | ||
conflict to christianity wasn't there's too many | ||
leftists who hate anything religion and so they get sucked into leftist ideology | ||
by default because they don't maybe out the bathwater is in the middle | ||
are are we not better off uh... bring them to our side with some american identity | ||
that now doesn't conflict with | ||
with uh... you know christianity You need a mission. | ||
So the right has a mission. | ||
Honor God and God gives you purpose. | ||
The left has a mission. | ||
Evil white supremacy must be destroyed. | ||
The mission we would need is like, go to Mars. | ||
So we need to build a culture around a shared national identity that is mission-driven. | ||
It was a lot easier during the Cold War because we had communists to worry about. | ||
We had a collective enemy. | ||
Now we don't. | ||
So these people who have no faith just say like, please, I'm desperate, give me purpose, and the left offers that to them. | ||
Just saying, love America, not enough. | ||
Support the Constitution, not enough. | ||
It's gotta be like, And it's gonna be hard to do when you're fighting communists, but it's gotta be, like, a grandiose collective mission that everyone partakes in. | ||
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So do you think that there's nothing outside- because I'm personally an atheist, but like I said, I have very- I value Christian values very, very much. | |
And, you know, I try very hard on my channel to bridge the gap. | ||
And it seems like religion is such a roadblock. | ||
Because you know because what I was saying that like so many people and I was with this way once that like anything religion I'm not here for it and so everybody on the right there It's a God God God God God and I if we can all come to the same place that we believe these things Why does it matter how we came to believe those things? | ||
I'm not saying that we you're wrong that we we would need something bigger But it is it possible for us to have that something bigger that drives this American identity Yeah, we have to make it we got to win the culture war Well, I mean, follow me on YouTube, guys. | ||
I'm doing my best. One of the collective Enemies is the woke and that's why you have post liberals | ||
libertarians conservatives They found purpose in fighting this woke machine and the | ||
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establishment etc. I thought you made a good point about how religion | |
Is kind of whack and not the I don't want the words in your mouth, but that I'm not religious | ||
I don't like, I always thought it was weird watching people believe something just without proof. | ||
I'm like, okay, I just went to science class earlier today. | ||
I'm not falling for this shit, but I do believe in God. | ||
That's something different that came outside of the whole religious pursuit. | ||
Maybe because I was in a Judeo Christian based society, I understood, became to understand what God is, or maybe it's just because that's the natural order of things that there is a God. | ||
I don't know. | ||
But I think nothing can fill that hole. | ||
That's like, you gotta... I don't know if everyone needs to believe in God. | ||
But the religion and God are different, basically. | ||
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Yeah, because I was born into the Catholic Church, I was confirmed into the Methodist Church, and then it was my journey to try to get closer to God and read the Bible that made me be like, oh, hey, what's going on here? | |
Some of this stuff doesn't match up. | ||
And luckily, I wanted to be a moral person, and so I went into, like, moral philosophy and stuff, but as we know, most people, when they see, oh, well, that doesn't make sense, how could this whatever in the Bible, that doesn't make sense, so let's throw it all away, Christian values are stupid. | ||
I feel like we need we need something to combat that that overarching thought that so many of them really So and them meaning atheists, you know think that it can't be they can't ever, you know Align themselves with anything conservative anything Republican anything like that unless it because they are not Christians and and I get that feeling personally as an atheist a lot and I just push through it because I know that the values on this side of the culture war are objectively better but I want to make it easier to bring more secular people on our side. | ||
We need them. | ||
Have you ever tried approaching the ideas as if they're Enlightenment values? | ||
Because the Judeo-Christian type of morality is heavily, well, is strongly compatible with Enlightenment values, heavily influenced. | ||
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Yeah. | |
So if you have friends or, you know, an impulse that's like, oh, you know, these things that Christianity taught when they come out of like the, you know, the Bible or whatever, they don't have the impact for you. | ||
And that's understandable. | ||
I myself am agnostic as well. | ||
But I believe that the principles that Were formed in the Enlightenment or part of part of the the the Enlightenment ideas was that the truth is the way to To engage with the world like so you reason and the truth is what you're looking for and that was something that was very Compatible with the Judeo-christian ideology. | ||
I mean, that's what what Christ said Christ said I'm light the truth in the way and And Judeo-Christian religions have never shied away from science, and that's part of why the Enlightenment happened in Europe and started in the UK, or well, in England. | ||
It was because the Church, because of the teachings that Christ said, Christ said that he was the truth, that the Church Understood that as whatever you look for, or whatever you're doing, you need to look for the actual truth because that's where Jesus is. | ||
That's where God is. | ||
You follow me? | ||
So the true things that you can ascertain using reason and enlightenment process, they tend to line up strongly with the Judeo-Christian religion. | ||
I actually really, I really enjoy the presence of Christians in the modern American world because our American values override, I mean more or less free speech overrides any religious text. | ||
Any American is an American first and then it feels like then the religion comes second because like I have atheists hang out with Christians and no one gives a shit. | ||
We all like, but we speak our truth. | ||
We speak freely. | ||
And it's awesome to see the evolution of Christianity from like back when they would Execute someone for talking shit about God or Jesus now you can like shit all over Jesus's grave And you're totally fine in this fucking culture because it's you have a free speech right to do it And it allows for I think the the at least the the coexistence of a lot of different religions including atheism Religion we got to get back to the roots of what made this country great. | ||
Yeah, I There's melting pot, you know, diversity. | ||
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And, uh, you know, intellectual diversity. | |
I mean, you know, obviously there's no easy answer to this. | ||
I really just kind of want to hear you guys thoughts and, uh, anybody out there, like I said, this is a, uh, you know, a goal that I have to literally fix the bridge between the two different realities that we have in the culture war. | ||
And I, I do believe That I can do it? | ||
Maybe not. | ||
You know, right now, do I have the right answers? | ||
But I know for sure if I continue talking to people like you guys, I just did a show with Peter Boghossian and asked the same kind of question, and I know that I'm getting closer. | ||
And I just think if we have more people who are willing to say, okay, well, let's see what's good with this. | ||
It doesn't conflict with my religion. | ||
I still have my religion. | ||
But let's see. | ||
I think if we do that, then maybe. | ||
Maybe. | ||
Oh, fuck yeah. | ||
What's your YouTube channel? | ||
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It's The Indian Jesus, so youtube.com slash at TheIndianJesusOfficial. | |
I'm live every Monday, Wednesday, Friday, 8 p.m. | ||
Eastern, obviously, during your guys' show, but I also do daily videos, so come on over, guys, and help me with my mission and my message. | ||
Ron, thanks for calling in. | ||
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Thank you so much for taking the call, guys. | |
Best wishes, man. | ||
Cheers. | ||
All right, talk to Kaba. | ||
C-A-B-A. | ||
What up? | ||
How you doing? | ||
Hey, man, I am. | ||
I'm doing great speaking with all of you guys. | ||
I think I, Tim, I fell into following your podcast after following War Room and Natalie Winters. | ||
Bandit was on your show and I had to hit it and I was just blown away by the format, how you guys handle everything. | ||
Just want to say thank you, always. | ||
Thank you. | ||
Thank you. | ||
Cheers, man. | ||
Thank you for watching War Room. | ||
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My question is, so I was in the PNW, I was in operations meetings, we were diverting product into the hospitals that were delivering COVID patients when this first broke out. | |
I stood toe-to-toe with people that were... I'm 6'2". | ||
I stood toe-to-toe with people who are 5 inches taller and, you know, 50 pounds heavier than me in grocery store parking lots because I wouldn't wear a mask in the store. | ||
And I just got to know, guys, it seems like lockdowns are coming. | ||
Yep. | ||
unidentified
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How do you protest them? | |
You just ignore them. | ||
unidentified
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Yeah. | |
You make fucking noise. | ||
Civil disobedience. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I mean, there's different methods. | ||
I like to be the one that, that, uh, breaks the breaks the ice so that you don't have to. | ||
That's my personal tactic. | ||
I'll make some fucking noise. | ||
I mean, I built my body to make strange sounds, man. | ||
And I will trick your brain into thinking I'm right by making some certain sounds. | ||
That's my tactic. | ||
Don't, don't fucking give them an inch dude. | ||
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Yeah, I agree. | |
No comply. | ||
It's really just as easy as like just ignoring it. | ||
Like in Idaho when I was, I went back from Hollywood for a while because at first I thought | ||
yeah it's Ebola it's going to kill everybody and then I realized quite quickly it's not. | ||
So it was my parents a lot of the time. | ||
And a lot of people just ignored it. | ||
I'm sure a lot of people that are in Texas, they're in Wyoming and etc can really relate | ||
to this. | ||
And like what's her name, Lauren Brown who was here last night was saying that people | ||
in Alabama just ignored it after a while. | ||
It's just like, yeah, it's just not there. | ||
So I think, I don't know where in the Pacific Northwest you are. | ||
I assume it's near by PNW. | ||
But, uh, you know, like even Oregon, at least in East Oregon and East Washington, people were just ignoring it. | ||
Like, yeah, make me put a mask on, basically. | ||
It's the best I can say to do, man. | ||
And understand, I think, too, the, like, historical context and the moment that you're living in. | ||
In other words, they want you to feel like you're crazy for not believing in it, right? | ||
If you have the freedom, the independence to actually act based off of your own thoughts as opposed to, you know, the segments on MSNBC or CNN, you pose an existential threat to their entire system, their entire Regime and I know all of this is so much easier said than done I grew up in LA so I know how it is to go against the grain but I think if you use you know the tactic of not dissociation but you just don't let what other people think about you and the crazy lady in the grocery store who's gonna yell at you because you're not wearing a mask | ||
I just always take it as like a sign of how low IQ they are and you sort of see the humor in it | ||
where you're just like, you're so dumb and to cap it all off, | ||
you actually think you're the smart one, you don't even realize you're being played. | ||
But I also think it's important too to like live somewhere and I don't even necessarily know | ||
if I'm talking on a city, state, even at this point country level, | ||
but I did move to Florida when the pandemic started, I was living in Chicago at the time | ||
and I just, I literally overnight like got a place in Florida | ||
I could not live in Chicago anymore, I was also in college, | ||
so it was like the mandates and craziness and just ridiculous, | ||
but being in an area where people didn't believe it and where the mandates weren't really a thing | ||
to some extent, I think really helped. | ||
So maybe take a vacation or go, I don't know, somewhere. | ||
Yeah. | ||
But yeah, fuck them. | ||
There's like, uh, I don't know how deep you get into manifestation and all that, but I- Do we manifest in this channel now? | ||
I think so. | ||
Yeah, it's real. | ||
And like, if you believe it's not happening, if you believe a certain thing is reality is coming, I think if a lot of us believe that, it's more likely. | ||
So I won't let myself fall into the bullshit where I'm like, oh no, this is gonna- no, fuck you. | ||
We make the future. | ||
And we're doing it right now. | ||
If people don't comply with it, there's no lockdowns. | ||
That's all that matters. | ||
I have to say I even I hate the term like do not comply because it implies that there's going to be more lockdowns and more things that we are going to have to not comply with I think and again I know this is wishful thinking because I know how House Republicans act but they need to like defund these agencies that are going to start doing whatever these mandates and rolling out this and these State colleges or, you know, federally funded institutions that want to start implementing mask mandates and vaccine mandates. | ||
Strip the funding. | ||
Strip the funding. | ||
If we had a real government that actually acted in accordance with the people, that's what they would do. | ||
Again, will I hold my breath for House Republicans to do that? | ||
Heck no, they can't even impeach Joe Biden. | ||
But I think the framing of do not comply even already seeds too much ground. | ||
We'll see about the impeachment. | ||
I have a feeling that they're waiting for election year. | ||
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Yeah, me too. | |
Why do it now? | ||
They got an artillery shell ready to fire and they can do it in election year. | ||
But we'll see. | ||
Why isn't Matt Gaetz trying to get him removed? | ||
I'm like, I think they know the impeachment's gonna come October surprise. | ||
Surprise! | ||
Who was that? | ||
Guess who I was just then, anyone? | ||
Kamala. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Thanks for calling in, good sir. | ||
See ya, dude. | ||
unidentified
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Yeah, appreciate it. | |
Cheers, man. | ||
unidentified
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Ian, keep lifting, bro. | |
Oh, hell yeah, dude. | ||
We're doing shoulders and, uh, shoulders and chest tomorrow. | ||
No, no, back and chest. | ||
You gotta drink that cream. | ||
Cream the night. | ||
You should try Pilates one day. | ||
I was looking at that machine you had mentioned. | ||
What's it called? | ||
unidentified
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The Reformer. | |
Yeah, the Reformer. | ||
Oh, the best. | ||
Maybe he'll get one. | ||
Right on. | ||
unidentified
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Hey Ian! | |
Yeah? | ||
You going up, you blowing up tonight was awesome. | ||
I love seeing that passion in you, dude. | ||
You have such a great heart. | ||
I love you through and through. | ||
You keep fighting for all of us. | ||
We're all one race, bro. | ||
Humans. | ||
Let's go. | ||
Hell yeah, man. | ||
Right on, man. | ||
Thank you, man. | ||
Thanks for calling. | ||
Cheers, man. | ||
Alright, let us talk to... Flayor the Hatebound. | ||
unidentified
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What up? | |
Sick name, what's up, dude? | ||
unidentified
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Hello, Tim Cass and Natalie. | |
Hello, Flair. | ||
unidentified
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Hi, I have a question specifically for Natalie Winters. | |
Oh, no. | ||
unidentified
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What are your thoughts on Vivek stating he would be open to pardoning Hunter Biden, but then that kind of leading towards the justice system seeming, you know, off. | |
Not as trustworthy when Trump hasn't been, you know, considered a pardon in the past four years for his alleged crimes. | ||
It just seems very weird that he would want to pardon Hunter Biden and not. | ||
That's super weak. | ||
I could think of hundreds if not thousands if not tens of thousands of people who deserve pardons before Hunter Biden. | ||
I'd start with the January 6 people and of course Donald Trump and all the ransom people that they've included in all these indictments around him. | ||
I think it sort of goes back to what we were talking about in the show earlier and As much as Vivek is an outsider, and I think outsiders are important, I think Donald Trump is, because he had that first term, is the perfect blend of outsider but also understand how the system works, right? | ||
And you know that the administrative state has a Very deep bench of attacks that they have on whoever the Republican nominee is going to be I'd argue if it's DeSantis if it's Vivek It's not as much as they have against Donald Trump because I don't think they see DeSantis the Tim Scott's the Nikki Haley's of the world as much of an existential threat to the system as say Donald J Trump But we don't we are at such a precipice right now where I don't think we have time for someone like Vivek who is just an untested individual in the realm of being president right and | ||
I think all of the the kitchen sink and the over and over kitchen sink that was thrown at Donald J Trump throughout his four years I really truly do think that he has learned from his missteps. | ||
I don't think he's a perfect person I think he he did make some some inaccuracies in the way that he went about trying to curtail the deep state but I think when you look at the policy platforms that he's been putting out now I think you see someone who is motivated by the right motivators, | ||
particularly retribution and revenge. | ||
But if you really drill down and you know, I'm fortunate living in D.C. that I talked | ||
to a lot of people who are on the campaign and even sort of Project 2025, which was spun | ||
out of the presidential personnel office of the Trump administration. | ||
The second half, this was after the first impeachment when they really reoriented it | ||
to get in more Trump loyalists in there, which I think Trump did learn a lot from that first | ||
impeachment. | ||
But like Johnny McEntee, James Bacon, all of these people are clinically studying the | ||
administrative state, how it's formed. | ||
They're part of that Trump group that out of the DOJ created the ideas of how to kind | ||
of work around the civil service protections to offshore and outsource these people to | ||
Alaska and these different states move the FBI, all of this stuff. | ||
So Trump, but also the people that he has surrounded himself with and has continued | ||
to elevate, like Johnny McEntee is a perfect example. | ||
They really with a fine-tooth comb are honing the tools and the weapons that they need to go against the administrative state and I think the comment that you brought up by Vivek is just sort of an example. | ||
We don't have time for games. I know he's very flashy, he's very articulate, | ||
and is someone who loves the English language. I appreciate his syntax and diction and word | ||
choice, it's amazing. But we need someone who is ready to fight because we are at war, whether or not | ||
unidentified
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we know it. The vague VP, I don't- Yeah, it just seems odd. | |
I think Tucker would be better, but- Yeah, I like Tucker VP. | ||
What was that you said? | ||
Vivek's just untested, in my opinion. | ||
I agree, I agree. | ||
I like Vivek a lot. | ||
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He could be great. | |
I like that he's a CEO, like a billionaire CEO. | ||
So that's my... He's a billionaire? | ||
Well, he's worth like $800 million or $700 million or something. | ||
You should look up who they sold the company to. | ||
It's sort of weird. | ||
Who did they sell the company to? | ||
It was loosely linked to Sequoia Capital, which I feel bad detracting from this nice person who wanted to ask me a question. | ||
We're totally going off the rails, but Sequoia Capital is very intimately linked to the Chinese Communist Party, and this is not just classic Natalie China fear-mongering, but Sequoia Capital has weaponized in how they donate to a lot of political candidates, particularly on the Republican side. | ||
If you look, there's a really large controversy, not in conspiracy land, but genuinely over Mike Turner, Kevin McCarthy, how they've taken money from Sequoia Capital. | ||
And in turn, they've sort of shut down a lot of investigations, not just into Sequoia Capital, | ||
but into the Chinese Communist Party's infiltration into the United States, particularly Devin | ||
Nunes's investigation back, this was back in 2018. | ||
And I think it's very shady that there are some Sequoia ties to the parent company that | ||
bought Vivec's company. | ||
Again, it's not even like you can nickel and, you know, pinpoint cherry pick little things | ||
about Vivec's resume that are weird. | ||
I'm not saying the guy's like a weird deep state plan. | ||
I'm not saying I just think we are at a time right now. | ||
I wish we had the luxury to experiment with someone like him and see what it would be like if he were in the Oval Office, right, for four years. | ||
But we don't have the time. | ||
And frankly, I think Donald Trump is the incumbent, right? | ||
unidentified
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Yeah. | |
We don't have to get into that. | ||
But I think, like I said, all of those people running are doing a disservice to the Republican ground game in 2024. | ||
But it's disrespectful to Donald J. Trump because the Republican Party is his. | ||
2020 election aside, it's still his. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. | ||
I just thought it was weird that he wanted to pardon the Bidens, or Hunter especially. | ||
When no one's given Trump a special, special counsel, as he put it, in the New York Post. | ||
And remember, Trump announced he is going to appoint a special counsel to look into the Bidens. | ||
unidentified
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True. | |
Yeah, Vivek said he was going to pardon Trump. | ||
I think that was his first pardon. | ||
The day he got sworn in, he would do that. | ||
I mean, from what I can tell, and I know you asked Natalie the question, is that he's looking at some cross-line ceasefire, just so that we can move forward as a unit. | ||
I think that's the basis of the tactic. | ||
Pandemic amnesty. | ||
Yes, giving Anthony Fauci a pardon. | ||
Let it go. | ||
Everyone except him. | ||
No way. | ||
No pardons for those people. | ||
I'm so done with torching shit, man. | ||
Let's just make a better future. | ||
Because if you pardon them, imagine what they're going to do next time. | ||
And right now is the potential next time. | ||
What are the consequences of pardoning them? | ||
The timeline we just said is they did something bad, we pardon them, then there's what if they do it again? | ||
And then you say we burn them. | ||
But what you're missing is how many people die because of what they do again. | ||
How many lives do they ruin? | ||
How many people have to watch their parents die behind a glass window? | ||
The point isn't, like, let them keep messing up and give them chances. | ||
The point is to prevent them from hurting other people because they hurt People, they destroyed lives. | ||
Their actions ruined the lives of people. | ||
People's parents died alone. | ||
Spent their last moments suffering alone because of Fauci and because of the behaviors of the government. | ||
So there should be no pardons. | ||
There should be no forgiveness. | ||
There should be investigations, trials, and imprisonments. | ||
Maybe for some people, yeah. | ||
Yeah, because there has to be repercussions for the things that they've done. | ||
Not just like, well, last time you were really bad, so we're going to give you another shot, and then if you do it again, look out. | ||
I think one idea is that you expose what they did, because a lot of people don't know that Fauci had bot flies experimenting on dogs' heads, where they were consuming dogs' lives. | ||
Or that he was funding EcoHealth Alliance, which was funding COVID, and they created a bioweapon. | ||
They don't know. | ||
So you expose- He's not there. | ||
But what Vivek was saying, and what I agree with, is that you expose them, you tell the entire world what they did, then you pardon them, and then you let the fucking masses take care of them. | ||
unidentified
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Yeah. | |
Yeah, if the culties will listen to it, then. | ||
I also think those people are very sensitive to the court of public opinion. | ||
They're very into the concept of legacy, like that's something that I think Anthony Fauci gets up every day, like with the Anthony Fauci doll in his backdrop, right? | ||
He wants to preserve his legacy and he, I'm sure, is so rattled by the fact that half of this country, I'd argue probably more than half this country, when they hear The word Anthony Fauci, there is a connotation that comes with that that is negative. | ||
And it wasn't totally like that maybe within the AIDS community. | ||
It was like that before COVID. | ||
But I think we also underestimate the fact that that really gets under his skin. | ||
Do I think he should be rotting in solitary? | ||
Heck yeah. | ||
But on the legacy side of things, I think that matters a lot to this. | ||
All right, man. | ||
Thanks for calling in, sir. | ||
unidentified
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Yeah, no problem, Tim. | |
Appreciate all that you do and hope to talk to you again soon. | ||
Right on, man. | ||
Flare the hatebound, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
unidentified
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Yeah, that's right. | |
Later, Flare. | ||
Let's talk to Maximus. | ||
No, Joey Cannoli wants to go last. | ||
unidentified
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So we're going to talk to Maximus here. | |
Maximus, how you doing? | ||
Good. | ||
I was just calling in to see if mainly Tim would be interested in doing a segment kind of spaced out from your daily content where For example, you could go into the impeachment of Donald Trump and cover from the very beginning, each individual item, like Hillary Clinton paying for information that was false to be used to impeach him and walking through exactly what happened step by step by step with less opinion thrown in there. | ||
Oh, that sounds like a job for Hannah Clare. | ||
That's what I was thinking. | ||
Yeah, absolutely. | ||
We've talked about it with her. | ||
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Essentially to reach out to the people on the left that don't want to hear opinion and will more so turn their heads when they hear factual information. | |
I think that's your first mistake. | ||
We've talked about doing it and I think we want to do it. | ||
unidentified
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Yeah. | |
Have Hannah Clare do deep dives that are just like straightforward, write it out, put clips on, show all the sources and break it down. | ||
unidentified
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Yeah, but to me, I just personally, I think that a lot of people are going to look at the facts. | |
They're not going to care about the facts. | ||
They really care about their feelings more than facts. | ||
Sure, but if someone's like, let me show you this video, you can watch it, and it's like a blanket news report they can send to a family member, that makes sense. | ||
That said, to caveat what I just said, at the same time, people don't know this stuff at all. | ||
unidentified
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They have no exposure to this news. | |
Which is why we need a non-opinion, non-esoteric approach to it. | ||
unidentified
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Yep, totally. | |
Yeah. | ||
Thanks, dude. | ||
Thanks for kicking the spurs into the horse. | ||
unidentified
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Yeah, that's a good idea, man. | |
Yeah. | ||
unidentified
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Yeah, absolutely. | |
And then one last little thing. | ||
I definitely want to see an interview between Paul Stamets and Ian. | ||
Oh, I'd love to. | ||
He's like the world leading mycologist, the mushroom scientist. | ||
That guy's brilliant. | ||
He's been on Rogan's podcast before. | ||
I love him so much and I would love to do a show with him. | ||
Thank you. | ||
unidentified
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Well, thank you Max. | |
Absolutely. | ||
Right on. | ||
unidentified
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All right. | |
Thanks for calling in. | ||
I'll talk to Hannah Clare and we'll see if we can get that going. | ||
unidentified
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Hey, thank you. | |
You guys have a good night. | ||
Appreciate it. | ||
Likewise, man. | ||
All right. | ||
unidentified
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And last but not least, Joey Cannoli. | |
How are you? | ||
It is I, Joey Cannoli from the Discord. | ||
You're a residential rapper. | ||
So I have a question for you guys and then I have one for Miss Natalie Winters. | ||
So my question is, as a native degenerate, total miscreant from the grimy streets of New York, I see the talk of mandates coming back, but I see nothing indicating any enforcement. | ||
Being in Manhattan, I see nobody wearing masks anymore. | ||
I see no precautions. | ||
The elites have tried to do the COVID scare before, after the initial time, and it fell on deaf ears. | ||
I don't think it'll happen again. | ||
Do you guys feel like you need to exaggerate the point to keep people on their toes? | ||
No. | ||
No. | ||
I said this during the show, I think they will come out and say, We're not going to force or mandate it, but we're going to issue these guidelines, and then they'll use that as a pretext for mail-in voting. | ||
unidentified
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Yeah, but like, I don't think people are going to be afraid to go outside. | |
I mean, they're going to do the mail-in voting anyway. | ||
They already passed those things as laws anyway. | ||
Right, and they'll use another excuse. | ||
They'll make another crisis. | ||
That's what I was saying earlier. | ||
I'm not entirely convinced that it will, you know, they're bringing it back in some respects already. | ||
We're seeing, like we showed, they've already got vax mandates heavily in effect that have stayed in effect. | ||
Some COVID policies have never gone away. | ||
They're bringing it back at, what was it, that university in Georgia? | ||
They brought it back to two hospitals in New York. | ||
And so, I don't think it's exaggerating the point to be like, hey, look, these institutions are literally doing this thing. | ||
Keep an eye out because they might try to bring this shit back. | ||
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Yeah, it's true. | |
It's just, you know, in the beginning of COVID, when I was in New York, there was just like, everyone was wearing a mask. | ||
I even saw like kids at the park wearing masks. | ||
And now it's like, nobody's even like thinking about it. | ||
Uh, they, they, they drop you in the cylinder, make you freak out, pick you up, dry you off, make you think everything's fine, then they drop the hammer and you swim for 60 hours before dying. | ||
unidentified
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Yeah, I just don't think the hammer, I think the hammer's gonna fall and I just, I don't, I don't think, the vibe I'm getting is that people are over it. | |
Yeah, man, you can't centrally plan the human consciousness. | ||
No, I think... | ||
To assume that desperate, failing political elites would just be like, well, we give up, is probably the wrong way to look at it. | ||
unidentified
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Oh, they're not going to give up. | |
They're going to do something else. | ||
They're going to try another plan. | ||
I don't think they can do the COVID card again. | ||
I bet they could. | ||
unidentified
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Maybe it'll be, maybe it'll be, I don't think so. | |
Maybe it'll be climate lockdowns, but I don't think they can pull the COVID card again. | ||
But who says it's going to be COVIDed? | ||
They're going to say BA286. | ||
They're going to, they're going to make up some psycho bullshit. | ||
But the point is, we even talked about climate lockdowns. | ||
The idea that we only just said they're going to lockdown because of COVID is not what our conversation was. | ||
We said they'll use it as an excuse to roll out or expand mail-in voting. | ||
They probably won't force anyone to do anything because it's not going to work, or they'll try climate lockdowns, which was what we talked about. | ||
unidentified
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Climate lockdowns are probably more likely, but for COVID I think we're over that. | |
Yeah, the smog's a big one, because they said the smog's gonna come back, and they've already primed everyone to be scared of it. | ||
And, I gotta be honest, smog, the smoke that came through, it was incapacitating. | ||
Yeah. | ||
No question. | ||
I walked in this studio, and it was smoky in here. | ||
unidentified
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Yeah. | |
Because of the way our ventilation worked. | ||
We had to fucking tape up the vents. | ||
It was benzene and that shit. | ||
Fucking crazy. | ||
unidentified
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Yeah. | |
Yep. | ||
Fuck that. | ||
And I was having trouble breathing, and Bocas was hyperventilating and struggling to breathe. | ||
Dude, it was fucked. | ||
And they're gonna be like, everyone stay inside, the smog is super high, the particulates are bad, you can't go outside anymore. | ||
unidentified
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The desolation of schmaug. | |
Alright, so before I ask my next question, I just wanna say I'm hosting the After Dark and Discord with Olivia Claire after this. | ||
Right on. | ||
unidentified
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Sweet. | |
Cool. | ||
unidentified
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So my question for Miss Natalie Winters is, what's a fellow like me gotta do to holla at you? | |
Apparently call it to the after show. | ||
Be a member at TedGuest.com. | ||
There's your new ad. | ||
That's very nice of you. | ||
I appreciate that. | ||
unidentified
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You can find me on Twitter at Natalie G. Winters. | |
I'm already following you everywhere. | ||
Now you gotta follow me back. | ||
You can DM me on Instagram and I will take a look. | ||
She just opened the DM, dude. | ||
unidentified
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Slide in easy. | |
Be a gentleman. | ||
unidentified
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We do this right now. | |
Be a gentleman. | ||
Be polite. | ||
unidentified
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We just broke up with the boyfriend, so you never know. | |
How long was the relationship? | ||
Very complicated question. | ||
On and off. | ||
I've been through that. | ||
unidentified
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Yes. | |
I was actually supposed to be on a flight literally right now to Paris. | ||
Instead, I'm here. | ||
Well, we got lucky then. | ||
unidentified
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So yeah, thank you. | |
I sent you a message. | ||
You got to accept something now. | ||
There you go. | ||
Thank you. | ||
Well, right on, man. | ||
I'd say thanks for calling in, but I think you got the favor out of this one. | ||
Yeah, for real. | ||
unidentified
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I was just gonna say you can check my bio on Discord and go listen to the song I have uploaded. | |
Nice. | ||
Right on, man. | ||
Well, thanks for calling in. | ||
unidentified
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Thank you for letting me call. | |
Thanks, Joey. | ||
unidentified
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Cheers, man. | |
Enjoy the late show. | ||
Alright, see ya. | ||
That's so cool that everyone, they do that after dark show and the display is awesome. | ||
I'm glad this is working out. | ||
This is really cool. | ||
Natalie, thanks for hanging out. | ||
It's been a blast. | ||
Thank you for having me. | ||
I'm happy to come back anytime. | ||
Absolutely. | ||
And for all you members, seriously, thank you so much. | ||
I don't know what's going on with this skate thing. | ||
I'll probably have a more definitive answer tomorrow. | ||
It seems like we probably just won't do it. | ||
Cuz I'm just like, I'm not gonna fight someone to give money to people. | ||
And if the people have a problem, like they were looking forward to the money, ain't nothing I can do about it if the people who are running it don't want us involved. | ||
I'm just gonna be like, alright dude, we'll take our money, and we'll go do our own skate contest. | ||
With blackjack. | ||
And hookers. | ||
unidentified
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YEAH! | |
And Futurama references, but no actual blackjack and hookers. | ||
But we're talking about just doing our own skate jam and contest with ridiculous cash prizes. | ||
And we've got a bunch of pro skateboarders who are already interested in coming out. | ||
So let them do their woke little shenanigans, whatever. | ||
And I got no beef. | ||
But I appreciate it. | ||
You guys as members allow us to do these kinds of things, and we're gonna do more. |