Speaker | Time | Text |
---|---|---|
shocking new testimony from Hunter Biden's partner, Devin Archer. | ||
Yo, get this. | ||
We all saw the video of Joe Biden saying, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you're not getting a billion dollars. | ||
And what we heard over and over again from liberals was that, but this was the policy of the United States. | ||
We now know, thanks to Devin Archer, that Hunter Biden and executives from Burisma called D.C. | ||
to get this prosecutor fired because they were investigating their company. | ||
So there it is, laid out for you. | ||
Devin Archer also testified that Joe Biden was on the phone with Hunter and his business associates. | ||
CNN, of course, is trying to defend this, saying it was just the illusion of access. | ||
Despite the fact 10% was reserved for the big guy. | ||
That's the biggest news today, but we also have a lot of other crazy story which is probably very big as well. | ||
Moscow hit by drone strikes. | ||
The photos and videos are shocking. | ||
And now you've got Oliver Stone saying he regrets voting for Biden because Biden may be starting World War 3. | ||
And then on top of that, I'm throwing this in for good measure, there's a ridiculous article about a UFO nearly starting World War 3 by like taking control of missiles, but you know how much we love our stupid distractions. | ||
And now we've got the story of a journalist. | ||
Who was in Ukraine, was arrested, and just recently got out and is on the run in a long Twitter thread describing how he was tortured. | ||
This is a crazy story. | ||
We're gonna have to get into all of these details, my friends, but before we do, of course, head over to castbrew.com and buy our coffee! | ||
We sponsor ourselves! | ||
Casperoo is our coffee brand, and we are launching our coffee shop. | ||
Hopefully, it'll be open in a few months. | ||
You can pick up all of our new blends, like Mr. Bokas Pumpkin Spice Experience, Sleepy Joe Decaf. | ||
We also have... Oh, unfortunately, Stand Your Ground is still sold out. | ||
We were able to get the pumpkin spice back in stock. | ||
But the Stand Your Ground's medium roast sold like hotcakes, I suppose. | ||
We've got a bunch of different blends. | ||
When you buy Cast Brew Coffee at castbrew.com, you're supporting our show and you're supporting us. | ||
We basically get rid of all the external sponsors for a variety of reasons. | ||
But also, don't forget to go to timcast.com, click join us, become a member, because we're going to have a members-only uncensored show coming up for you at 10 p.m. | ||
where you as members can call into the show and ask us and our guests questions. | ||
And it's also just Not so family-friendly can be a little bit spicy, so you don't want to miss those. | ||
They're good fun. | ||
Smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. | ||
Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Liam Cosgrove. | ||
Thank you for having me, guys. | ||
I'm excited to be on, long-time listener. | ||
Yeah, so if you probably don't know me, because I don't have a huge following, but I go to the State Department, I go to the Pentagon, I'm a reporter for the Gray Zone, and I ask them questions, and I, you know, try to do the job of a journalist, which is hold the powerful accountable. | ||
And, you know, not many people in those briefing rooms seem to be doing that, but yeah, thanks for having me. | ||
Excited to be here. | ||
Right on. | ||
We also got Phil Labonte. | ||
Hello, everybody. | ||
My name is Phil Labonte. | ||
I'm the lead singer of All That Remains. | ||
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary. | ||
I'm Ian Crossland. | ||
What's happening, everybody? | ||
I just drank a 1,300-calorie shake in, like, 15 minutes. | ||
That was pretty intense. | ||
Never did that before. | ||
Building that muscle. | ||
I gained 12 pounds in the last two weeks. | ||
I think 10 of them are permanent. | ||
The other two might be water weight. | ||
We'll find out. | ||
I weigh 142 for the show. | ||
None of them are permanent. | ||
Keep it up. | ||
You gotta keep eating. | ||
You said you gained 12 pounds and you weigh 142? | ||
I started at 129. | ||
I'm 142 right now. | ||
Wow. | ||
I actually started at 127 because I had cut weight for the music video for the scene where I'm like really emaciated. | ||
So I went from 127 to 143. | ||
Good job. | ||
It's gonna be like five more weeks and Ian's gonna be jacked. | ||
That's the plan. | ||
You might want to slow down, though, because 12 in one week? | ||
Yeah, it was 5 pounds on Friday night and then 5 pounds on Saturday, because I ate like three days' worth of food. | ||
Yeah, but that's probably just like you put food in your stomach and then weighed yourself. | ||
What happened was I worked out all week, and I ate 1,800 calories, and then on the weekend I just loaded calories, like ate three times as much as normal, and then I put on 10 pounds. | ||
Is that good? | ||
Like you felt fine? | ||
Yeah, I felt pretty good. | ||
You should weigh yourself at the same time every day like in the morning like after you go to the bathroom so that way you're kind of like in the same state like as empty of a stomach as you can get and do that like for a week or two and then you get a really good idea of how much you actually weigh as opposed to like varying because of water. | ||
I got a smart watch you should use. | ||
unidentified
|
Oh yeah? | |
Yeah, it's over there. | ||
Then you can track your health and fitness stuff. | ||
unidentified
|
Okay. | |
It'll show you like your heart rate and everything. | ||
You can monitor it. | ||
We'll get it after the show. | ||
Okay, cool. | ||
Just realized right now. | ||
But we also got Surge here. | ||
Press the button. | ||
Yeah, how much creatine you taking, man? | ||
Because that'll be about how much water we have. | ||
About 10 milligrams a day. | ||
Okay. | ||
Well, now it's not a ton, but... Yeah, it's like two segments of five milligrams. | ||
I think that's the dose right now. | ||
Oh, okay. | ||
Are you taking the testosterone like RFK? | ||
No. | ||
No, I have not, and that's interesting. | ||
I don't know if I'm going to go that far. | ||
He's not that deep. | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
It's all good, man. | ||
You're looking good. | ||
Is he not on testosterone? | ||
Am I off there? | ||
He is definitely on testosterone. | ||
unidentified
|
RFK? | |
I think so. | ||
I'm nervous about getting started on testosterone. | ||
I thought I heard him say that in an interview. | ||
I've heard that once you start down, you've got to keep doing it. | ||
If you stop, that it can mess you up, so I don't want to start on something that I can't stop. | ||
Okay. | ||
I mean, you're going to stop making testosterone eventually anyways. | ||
Yeah, but what you do is, well, my understanding, and always talk to your doctor, because I'm not a nutritionist, but more fat in your diet, and then they have natural supplements that, like, there are things you can get that aren't testosterone, but it's what your body needs to make testosterone. | ||
That's pretty cool. | ||
Like eating eggs and stuff. | ||
Anyways, I'm Surge.com, by the way. | ||
Yeah, let's get to it. | ||
That wraps up the Ian Health and Fitness Show. | ||
Let's jump to the news. | ||
We got this one from Fox News, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
This is probably the biggest bombshell out of the Devin Archer testimony. | ||
I mean, that's actually hard to say because we know that in this testimony we learned Joe Biden was on the phone 20 plus times in these business meetings while VP, but this one is shocking. | ||
Devin Archer says Hunter Biden and Burisma execs called D.C. | ||
to get Ukrainian prosecutor fired. | ||
Devin Archer testified for hours. | ||
Devin Archer testified Monday that Hunter Biden and top execs called D.C. | ||
in 2015 to ask the Obama administration to help fire the Ukrainian prosecutor investigating the firm. | ||
A source familiar with his testimony told Fox News Digital. | ||
And they lied! | ||
But ladies and gentlemen, we got Joe Biden right here admitting to all of it. | ||
That was the assignment I got. | ||
I got all the good ones. | ||
And so I got Ukraine. | ||
And I remember going over, convincing our team, our others too, convincing us that we should be providing for loan guarantees. | ||
And I went over, I guess, the 12th, 13th time to Kiev, and I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee. | ||
And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from I said, I'm telling you, you're not getting a billion dollars. | ||
I said, you're not getting a billion. | ||
I'm going to be leaving here. | ||
I said, I'm not going to, we're not going to give you the billion dollars. | ||
They said, you have no authority. | ||
You're not the president. | ||
The president said, I said, call him. | ||
I said, I'm telling you, you're not getting a billion dollars. | ||
I said, you're not getting a billion. | ||
I'm going to be leaving here. | ||
I think it was what, six hours. | ||
I look, I said, I'm leaving in six hours. | ||
If the prosecutor is not fired, you're not getting the money. | ||
Oh, son of a bitch. | ||
I got fired. | ||
There it is, right there. | ||
Shout out to DC Drano for that video, which has been circulating some time. | ||
He reposted it today. | ||
So, uh, that argument we heard over and over again from liberals, that it was just US policy to fire that prosecutor. | ||
Now, I gotta say, that was never backed up by anything. | ||
Why did the US want the prosecutor fired? | ||
So, I argued about this, like, years ago, whenever this came out, with a kind of a mainstream liberal friend of mine, and he said what you just said. | ||
He was like, you know, the entire, like, everyone in the US But this makes sense. | ||
If you look at Burisma as an arm of U.S. | ||
interests, Burisma acting as U.S. | ||
policy interests called D.C. | ||
and said no. So the impetus came from Burisma. But this makes sense. If you look at Burisma | ||
as an arm of US interests, Burisma acting as US policy interests called DC and says | ||
if you want us to keep operating this guy's got to go because he's investigating us. | ||
So simply put, you could say it was US policy. | ||
There was a former CIA director on the board of Burisma, as well as the vice president's son. | ||
So of course it was our policy. | ||
We were running the show. | ||
But when you get to the brass tacks of it, corrupt institutions which were enriching people's private interests Called up their buddies in DC, or their dad, and said, this guy is getting in the way to 10% for the big guy. | ||
So we've got Tony Bobulinski, this is one of the Hunter Biden associates saying outright, he's in on it. | ||
You've got the emails, 10% held by, by, what does it say, HB for the big guy, is that what it said? | ||
Was that, was that Burisma though, or is that the China thing? | ||
10% for the big guy I think was a China deal. | ||
My point specifically though is we can see in these business dealings there is evidence that Joe Biden is personally benefiting. | ||
We also have the text from Hunter Biden where he said something to the effect of dad taking his salary or things like that. | ||
So he's acting as a proxy for Joe Biden while Joe Biden was in government. | ||
Joe Biden personally goes and gets the prosecutor fired who was investigating the company where his son was getting $83,000 a month. | ||
There it is. | ||
Devin Archer testified before Congress. | ||
And the huge thing, but also real quick, if you just watch that clip and just listen to Joe Biden's tone in that clip, it's like he's just acting like he's talking to his nephew. | ||
He's just bragging, brazenly bragging. | ||
He's like, I gotta leave in about six minutes. | ||
I got a flight to catch. | ||
Why don't you fire that guy? | ||
He's like, He sounds like a mafia guy who's, like, proud of, like— That's probably— It really does sound like a line written for, like, a— A mafia movie. | ||
He's, like— Listen, Joe, if you don't fire the guy in six minutes, you ain't getting the money. | ||
Yeah, he's, like, talking shit just publicly about what Trump was impeached over. | ||
That speaks to the way that politics in Washington, D.C. | ||
is handled generally, though. | ||
I mean, or I would believe, that would lead me to believe. | ||
Because he doesn't think it's a big deal. | ||
Exactly. | ||
It's no problem. | ||
It's very normal for him. | ||
It comes off as, you know, as, you know, obviously this is the case. | ||
This wasn't the first time that he behaved like that or whatever. | ||
So, I mean, it does speak to the tenor and the way business is done not just with Washington but obviously internationally as well and the US if the US has one of the less corrupt governments on earth which I don't know for sure if it does or not but I know there are places that are a real mess but if if the US does have a less corrupt government and that's the way that business is handled | ||
Among you know someone that was the vice president who'd been in in DC for 45 years at that at that point or whatever then you know that just imagine the rest of the world the rest of the world's a mess and you know Ukraine is a Absolute pig sty because everyone knows that Ukraine is is Well, everyone is aware of the the root the the story or narrative that Ukraine is one of the more most corrupt governments in the world 100%. | ||
And I don't know, but I would assume Russia is, too. | ||
But, like, that's why, you know, it's so crazy that, like, we're involved in this war in the first place, because we're talking about two very corrupt, very authoritarian, which we can get into, like, you know, pre-war Zelensky's authoritarian tendencies. | ||
But, like, why the U.S. | ||
seems to think it needs to have a dog in this fight of, like, You know, why do we care which corrupt oligarch rules over Crimea or the Donbas? | ||
It's like, we shouldn't really care. | ||
They're both, like, horribly corrupt countries to begin with. | ||
But what's interesting from this stuff, and then there was Chuck Grassley on the Senate floor the other day who talked about one of these, I think, Burisma associates, or one of Hunter Biden's associates in Ukraine, had recorded 19 phone calls, 17 with Hunter Biden, two with Joe Biden, for the purpose of blackmail. | ||
This was Chuck Grassley saying this. | ||
I don't know if he produced any, like, documentation for it. | ||
But, um, you know, so... And why that's scary is, like, could our president be blackmailed into supporting this war? | ||
Yes. | ||
And World War III is a real risk from this war. | ||
So, like, the implications of, like, I mean... Russia is not viewing this as Russia versus Ukraine. | ||
Their pundits, all their personalities are saying, NATO versus Russia. | ||
So they're very much viewing this as international conflict. | ||
And it's only the most naive or the most duplicitous individuals who say, we are not at war with Russia. | ||
We absolutely are. | ||
You don't get to provide weapons, training, military, and volunteers, and then be like, but we have nothing to do with this war. | ||
Yeah, no, and I agree. | ||
And it's even worse because, like, I think it's still a majority. | ||
We can maybe pull up the polls if they're up there. | ||
But, like, how many Americans still support the Ukraine war? | ||
And I think it's a majority. | ||
And obviously these people think, you know, we're fighting for democracy, we're fighting to protect international borders. | ||
But, like, if the truth were to come out that, like, no, we're fighting because, like, they have dirt on Joe Biden. | ||
And we're literally risking the entire world, and they might have... Okay, there's the stats. | ||
This is Gallup from one month ago. | ||
62% in June 2023 support Ukraine reclaiming territory. | ||
However, it is going down. | ||
It's really slowly, slowly going down. | ||
I mean, yeah, I mean, I think hopefully what would bring that bar to the left more would be, you know, educating people on the real reasons we're at war. | ||
And I don't know if it's because Did they have blackmail on Joe Biden? | ||
unidentified
|
No. | |
It could just be geopolitical, like fucking, you know, uh, you know, the neocons. | ||
It is very much wanting to gain access to energy for Europe to expand the European economy. | ||
The European economy is stagnating. | ||
If you can supply weapons to Ukraine to damage Russia's military, that's good for the US. | ||
But yeah, they say that, but I don't get why that's good for the US. | ||
Why is that an end? | ||
Why is weakening Russia, which by the way means killing young men on the battlefield, why is that an end to the US? | ||
And I once, I was on, I don't know if we published this, but I was on Capitol Hill and I asked this to Dan Crenshaw. | ||
He was like, hey, we're weakening a strategic adversary. | ||
And I was like, well, why are they a strategic adversary? | ||
And he was just like, oh, you're pro-Russia, I'll see you later. | ||
And it's like, no, I'm just like, I don't want to blow up the world. | ||
Because they're a BRICS nation, they want to get off the U.S. | ||
petrodollar, they want to create their own rival currency, they're starting to, and the U.S. | ||
views that as a big threat. | ||
Russia is the easier target out of the bunch. | ||
China is too large. | ||
So in the meantime, NATO expands its presence in Europe, gains more control, bolsters the European economy to compete with the Chinese economic bloc, and Russia, being the easier target, goes after them right now. | ||
Funny thing is, they didn't used to be in BRICS, and they didn't used to be trying to get another currency. | ||
Like, why were they our strategic enemy ever? | ||
I don't understand. | ||
After the Soviets fell, it was like, yo, that's our best opportunity. | ||
Let's go back in time, my friend! | ||
Yeah, let's go to 1993. | ||
What the hell's going on? | ||
Yeah, you keep going back. | ||
Just because the Soviet Union collapsed doesn't mean that the sentiments and the people there, their worlds changed. | ||
For a lot of people, the world did change. | ||
Don't get me wrong. | ||
But for powerful individuals, political leaders, and the oligarchs who are seizing control, they were born and bred of this world, East versus West. | ||
So you can go all the way back and keep going back in time to find where the dawn of conflict emerges, but U.S. | ||
interests competing with foreign interests, and the U.S. | ||
has been, in many ways, losing this. | ||
In a lot of ways. | ||
And I think a lot of it has to do with There is the fact that being a constitutional republic weakens us in terms of executive action. | ||
The Chinese Communist Party snaps their fingers and they get things done. | ||
They build a bridge overnight. | ||
Why? | ||
Because if you don't do it, you get locked in a gulag. | ||
But then they also build a bunch of empty apartment buildings that have to get torn down because, you know. | ||
They're using a combination of the two. | ||
or it's you know it can you can you're at that you're at the sure but there's | ||
a ghost city there's a combination of the two they have so this is this is an | ||
interesting merger between the total communist authoritarianism and having a | ||
little bit of low tier low-level economic activity be allowed so this | ||
results in some kind of capitalistic growth but you have got to be a member | ||
of the party the party's got to be in fashion of your company | ||
Fascism. | ||
Yeah, essentially, right? | ||
unidentified
|
Yep. | |
So, the U.S., I would say, you know, my view of Joe Biden, or any of these presidents, save Trump, in my lifetime, it's the intelligence agencies that are running everything, and I think it's fairly obvious, and the way we've always described it, and even for Barack Obama, is that he's like, when I get in office, we're gonna bring our troops back! | ||
And then as soon as he gets in office, he sits down and they go, Mr. President, and they slap the documents in front of him and say, this is why you'll do as you're told. | ||
And then anybody who says otherwise, they just slide a picture of JFK right up and say, once again, this is why you'll do what you're told. | ||
So I do think that, I think the intelligence agencies behind the scenes, first, most of what we think we know is probably wrong. | ||
The news we're reading is probably wrong. | ||
Come on, we know they lie all the time. | ||
And we're still trying to base our perception on this war off of all of this stuff and what Joe Biden is doing. | ||
I do think the people at the CIA and the FBI want the U.S. | ||
to win and would prefer it if all of our lives were better. | ||
However, in terms of conflict, we are just assets on a battlefield. | ||
We are economic numbers, so freedom doesn't matter. | ||
Our rights doesn't matter. | ||
The Constitution doesn't matter. | ||
All that matters is the global sphere of influence for U.S. | ||
and Western interests. | ||
But even if you're like you're at the CIA and like you think in these terms and like you you know you want to maintain the petrodollar which which makes sense why you want to maintain the petrodollar but but the risks like they don't think of the risks of like like why is the Doan boss worth risking nuclear war if you're the CIA. | ||
It could give Russia carte blanche access to the Black Sea through Crimea. | ||
They already have it. | ||
But if they really solidify it that means that they're gonna make Turkey become their ally and that's a threat that Turkey will leave NATO because Turkey is the exit from the Black Sea into the Mediterranean and you can't get out without Turkey. | ||
It would be sick if Turkey got out of NATO. | ||
Yeah, that would be the end of everything. | ||
If Turkey leaves NATO and joins BRICS, I mean, we would basically bifurcate the Earth into two hemispheres of nuclear power. | ||
Why do you say that? | ||
They control the Bosphorus. | ||
unidentified
|
What? | |
They control the Bosphorus. | ||
They control the strait into the Mediterranean from the Black Sea. | ||
That's tons of economic activity for Europe that is under control of Turkey. | ||
So long as Turkey is working with NATO, we have that advantage. | ||
Yeah, but I mean, just having Turkey not in NATO doesn't mean that Turkey automatically will shut off the canal. | ||
No, no, no. | ||
I mean if Turkey sides with BRICS. | ||
If Turkey does say to the West, you are now on the, let's just say, the not nice end of the stick. | ||
That's gonna put more pressure on us. | ||
The issue with, you know, when I look at Ukraine, we gotta go back, and the place I typically start, and it goes back much further than this, obviously, is the Qatar-Turkey pipeline, Syria. | ||
The U.S. | ||
and our interests in the Middle East obviously were a conflict between the U.S. | ||
and Russia. | ||
I mean, even going back to the Mujahideen, the support of these groups so that they could fight the Soviets, et cetera, we're still in there for very similar reasons. | ||
Why is it that Syria falls into civil war? | ||
How convenient for the United States. | ||
When we were facing obstruction from Bashar al-Assad, all of a sudden the country is collapsing. | ||
Well, we want to build the pipeline. | ||
Pipeline would have gone to Europe, offset Russia's gas problem monopoly, and would have helped bolster energy and expansion, economic expansion in Europe. | ||
All of this stuff ties together. | ||
You then, it's no surprise that there's a counter-terrorism official from the CIA, a director who is now on the board of Burisma, an energy company. | ||
Hunter Biden joins that board. | ||
It's U.S. | ||
interest to stop the prosecutor investigating it. | ||
This is all about, I think they're looking at hard energy expansion economic numbers. | ||
They're saying, we want X amount of growth over this many years. | ||
They're looking at it like Russia's growing at this pace, China's growing at this pace. | ||
They're working together. | ||
If we do not have X amount of growth, they take over. | ||
Okay, so if you take a step back, even if you're still at the CIA looking through their perspective, and you take a step back and you look at how things have gone over the last 20 years with all of these regime change efforts we undergo, we spend trillions of dollars And we just completely destroy these countries that we were hoping to kind of control, and then you look at Afghanistan, like, we pull out anyways, so it's like... But you're missing the bigger picture. | ||
We don't have a good track record. | ||
Do we destroy the countries that agree to our control? | ||
Uh, no. | ||
The countries that bend the knee and kiss the pinky ring, we never hear about invasions or coup d'etat or anything like that because they did as they were told. | ||
It's the countries that defy the U.S., and not just the U.S., but Western powers, that face these, you know, We came, we saw, he died. | ||
That's how Hillary Clinton described it. | ||
About Gaddafi in Libya. | ||
Right. | ||
You know, so a reason will be made and the people who don't fall in line do as they're told. | ||
Well, so what I was going to say is like, if, because you kind of said the goal is like control and money, which I guess are two different things, but if like, if they just wanted money, if like this, if like the people at these defense companies and, and, you know, CIA wherever want money, it's like, why don't they just, It's not about money. | ||
Economic expansion. | ||
They want to see the sphere of influence of Western nations expand and maintain a unipolar domination in the planet, on the planet, on Earth. | ||
China is pushing that boundary and we are now very likely, I think it's safe to say, we are a multipolar world, meaning we now have the rise of multiple superpowers, which brings the very real risk of mass conflict and war. | ||
After World War II, we saw the rise of the liberal economic order. | ||
The intention was to prevent this from happening again. | ||
You know, they tried it with the League of Nations, United Nations. | ||
They want... Well, but okay, so on that point, they created it to prevent this from happening again, but now the evidence seems overwhelming that, like, it's the driving force for why it's happening again. | ||
unidentified
|
Always. | |
And so it's there's no there's no there's no simple answer to this exercise has been like difficult for me because my | ||
brain does not Work, I imagine like any of these people at the CIA | ||
But like why they need to dominate and influence the entire world when it's like look at like look at this amazing landmass | ||
We have over here on like, you know, the Western Hemisphere It's like why can't we just like enjoy this and live on our | ||
farm and like take it easy? | ||
Especially these guys at the top who have all the control in the world. | ||
And I agree, but they've made the argument very clear. | ||
China will not stop. | ||
They're trying to take the South China Sea. | ||
They're building military bases on these fake islands. | ||
Yeah, but they're not going to come here. | ||
They're not going to come here. | ||
But what about Alaska? | ||
What about the Aleutians? | ||
It's a question of will they come here or will they expand their influence into Africa, which they're already doing, South America, the Belt and Road Initiative, and then all of a sudden in the U.S. | ||
we are constrained and can't get access to certain resources. | ||
That is their view and they say it plainly. | ||
I'm not saying they're right, but they've made their argument very clear. | ||
But also Belt and Road is like, like military bases, like Belt and Road is them like, you know, getting countries in debt, which you can say is like the U.S. | ||
Western model. | ||
Right, but I mean, like, they're building infrastructure or they're, like, influencing them to, like, you know, on international... to vote with them on international organizations. | ||
But, like, they only have, like, um... I think they only have, like, two or three foreign military bases and they're, like, artificial islands near China. | ||
We have military bases all over. | ||
That's what I'm saying. | ||
It's like, why are we so worried about China when they don't yet have all these foreign military bases? | ||
That's why. | ||
Because they're expanding. | ||
It's kind of like... But not militarily. | ||
They are. | ||
And you're saying it's a small number, but that doesn't matter. | ||
What matters is they are. | ||
That's it. | ||
The intelligence agencies- But we have troops in Taiwan, we have troops in the Philippines- That's not an argument! | ||
That's not an argument! | ||
No, but it's like, why do you think they're doing it? | ||
Maybe because- maybe we could talk to them and say, hey, guys, don't build this base on this artificial island. | ||
We'll pull our troops out of Taiwan. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
Negotiations could happen to prevent it as opposed to like... War mongering. | ||
You're not making an argument. | ||
It's simple. | ||
There's a unipolar power structure where the West controls things through economics and through conflict and those that don't fall in line. | ||
Hillary Clinton, we came, we saw, he died. | ||
That's what happens. | ||
China starts expanding. | ||
Russia teams up with them. | ||
This is a threat. | ||
It doesn't matter if the guy across the street threw one rock at you. | ||
The moment he does, you call the police and say, I will not stand for this. | ||
Now you can argue that the guy with the rock threw it at a guy who's got 17 tanks and a bunch of RPGs lined up, but either way they're gonna be like, oh, he's throwing rocks at us! | ||
unidentified
|
Right. | |
China is expanding in certain areas, their influence is growing, their economy is growing, it is a threat to the U.S., we are now facing a multipolar world, and these I view it like, after World War II, you get the liberal | ||
economic order, you get these powerful elites who are like, we are going to use this | ||
position to control everything and prevent this from happening. | ||
They pass it down to their kids, the next generation, who start to slowly screw things | ||
up, who pass it down to their kids, who have no idea what the hell they're doing, and have | ||
fumbled the whole thing. | ||
And now we are facing a massive crisis. | ||
But these people inherited this. | ||
They don't know better. | ||
So they're just thinking, we better fight this war to prevent it from happening somewhere else. | ||
And you're like, okay, well, look, there's two outcomes. | ||
I suppose the parent tree is, we do nothing. | ||
Thucydides Trap dictates the likelihood of World War Three is tremendous. | ||
And then war happens, or we just start it all now. | ||
Push back and hope that holding back Russia from the Donbass and putting pressure on China stops the expansion and we don't end up in a Thucydides trap. | ||
Yeah, I, you know, I don't, I don't, I don't see, well, in Ukraine specifically, like, do you see Russia, well, certainly not Crimea. | ||
I think there's no shot Russia leaves Crimea. | ||
There's two million Russian civilians who live there. | ||
And it's basically been Russia. | ||
We had, I think it was Dave Smith, I think it was Dave Smith who mentioned, Russia didn't invade and take over Crimea, they stepped out the door of the military base and said, hi guys. | ||
I think like three people died or something. | ||
But it's not that, the point is that they already had a military presence there. | ||
So it was that they walked out of the military base and said, how's it going everybody? | ||
And I think they've actually had that base for hundreds of years. | ||
That's right. | ||
I just hope there's people in the U.S. | ||
who understand that and are like, oh yeah, we're just waiting to play that card. | ||
Nobody knows any of this stuff. | ||
Well, what do you mean? | ||
You go talk to the average person, average liberal. | ||
No, no, no, I'm talking about people in the top brass of the U.S. | ||
Oh, right, right, right. | ||
The challenge with those who support all this is that you go and ask any liberal who's waving a Ukrainian flag, and they won't be able to tell you the first thing. | ||
They can't point to Ukraine on the map. | ||
Yeah, I mean, that was the whole Dan Crenshaw thing of just saying I'm pro-Russia when I tried to ask him. | ||
It's just like it was like the war with Iraq and invasion of Afghanistan. | ||
It was like, are you with the terrorists or are you with us? | ||
It's like, dude, you want to invade a foreign country and kill their leader? | ||
I got questions. | ||
And they're like, well, then you support the terrorists. | ||
No, shut up. | ||
But that's what they go for because the average person doesn't care, doesn't want to care, and doesn't want to pay attention. | ||
They want to play their games, they want to watch their shows, they want to see Taylor Swift. | ||
They don't want to deal with this stuff. | ||
I don't blame them. | ||
And I will give a shout out to Dave Smith. | ||
That bar that Serge pulled up earlier with the poll, going slowly to the left, I think Dave Smith has been doing a fantastic job of describing the history of this war to people and disseminating it. | ||
So, shout out to him. | ||
Let's jump to this next story we got from the Post Millennial. | ||
I love this. | ||
We have testimony that Joe Biden is on the phone with Hunter Biden and his associates at the same time. | ||
We have testimony from one of Hunter's associates that Joe Biden is getting kickbacks. | ||
And then CNN says Hunter Biden was selling the illusion of access because Joe was on the phone, but Joe wasn't talking shop. | ||
Does he need to? | ||
Seriously, if they're sharing bank accounts, sharing email addresses, if Joe Biden is taking his son's salary, it's like the mafia, it's like the guy's talking, negotiating a deal with the other guy and he's like, listen, Don says he wants you to do this or else. | ||
And then they're like, oh, I'm not going to do anything. | ||
And then all of a sudden the Don walks in the front door and goes, how's you guys doing? | ||
And they're like, oh, everything's good, man. | ||
We're doing everything you ask. | ||
And they run away. | ||
See, they're trying to make this claim that makes literally no sense. | ||
The moment you put Joe Biden on the phone, it's a whip crack. | ||
The Vice President is in the room. | ||
Don't you forget it. | ||
So I hear your point and I agree with it, but also that claim is just not true. | ||
I mean, this was in the New York Post the other week of when apparently there's a text from one of the Burisma executives and he says to Hunter, can you ring your dad? | ||
And then Hunter Where's that from? | ||
speakerphone and, sorry this was not a text, this must have been a call, but Hunter goes | ||
on speakerphone with Joe Biden and says these guys quote need our support. | ||
So I mean he wasn't just selling the illusion of access, he was putting these guys on speakerphone | ||
with his dad and telling his dad we need to help them. | ||
Where is that from? | ||
That's from New York Post. | ||
Yes, I think it's fair to say that CNN is desperately lying. | ||
What does the CNN article look like? | ||
I'm actually curious to see how they frame that, other than post-millennial. | ||
I think this is it. | ||
Former business partner says Hunter Biden sold the illusion of access to Joe Biden. | ||
Former business partner says, source says. | ||
That is so ridiculous. | ||
What? | ||
We're business partners. | ||
We got a source saying a couple degrees of separation. | ||
I'm surprised they published that. | ||
Plausible deniability right there. | ||
Yeah, we know. | ||
Tim, as you were doing your mafia metaphor, it's like if the mob member was like, hey, we got a job for you, but before you go, you're going to take my son along. | ||
How is that not mafia interference with the guy's son, the mob member's son? | ||
He's bringing his son along for the game now? | ||
This crackhead is all of a sudden invited along because he's a son. | ||
The son of the boss goes to a bunch of guys who are delivery guys or drivers or meals or whatever. | ||
And it's like, I want you guys to move all this product. | ||
My dad wants it done. | ||
They go, your dad doesn't want this done. | ||
This is your job. | ||
You're trying to upstage your dad. | ||
He gets on the phone and says, hey, dad, how you doing? | ||
And then his dad's like, everything's going good, son. | ||
He's like, yeah, I'm here with the boys. | ||
They're saying everything's good, right, boys? | ||
So he didn't talk shop, but come on. | ||
We know exactly what that was. | ||
Yeah, I agree. | ||
Even if you're doing that, it's still fucked up. | ||
But that isn't even what Biden was doing. | ||
Joe is clearly more involved than that. | ||
What's, like, the dirtiest stuff he was doing? | ||
Do you have the data? | ||
On, on... The quotes, or, like, any, any specific, the specific, like, the three most corrupt things that he did that we have, like, documented proof of, or extreme amounts of evidence? | ||
Well, I guess I don't know, like, you know, policy, like, which policies arose from it. | ||
I just mean, like, the text... I don't know if there's anything that originates actually from Joe, but it's just, like, the text that Tim referenced earlier of Hunter saying, um you know you know pops he's like he's talking to his nephew or his daughter or something he's like pops takes 50% of all my shit i'm not going to do that to you when you get older so i mean like why would hunter lie about that you know what i mean like that so in private texts yeah exactly and so that's one example um i guess we don't have here from new york post how joe responded to these guys need our help but oh oh but there is a timeline this so this was like | ||
It was like, um, it was like a matter of weeks later that he gave that speech we played, and he got the guy fired. | ||
Um, so yeah, I mean, the timeline lines up as well. | ||
Like, Dad, these guys need our support. | ||
A couple weeks go by, the prosecutor's fired. | ||
I love that they're like, Joe was on the phone with Hunter's associates a couple dozen times. | ||
For no reason! | ||
Yeah. | ||
He didn't talk shop. | ||
It's like, wait, wait, wait. | ||
Two dozen times on the phone with these guys. | ||
What were they talking about? | ||
Going golfing? | ||
Or is that what Joe was or Hunter was? | ||
Joe was on the phone, on speakerphone over 20 times with Hunter Biden's associates. | ||
That's what Devin Archer testified. | ||
unidentified
|
Oh, wow. | |
So the question is, like, for what reason? | ||
It's not a social call. | ||
Yeah, exactly. Which is another reason that CNN article is ridiculous. Like, did they include that fact in there? | ||
Like, it was kind of just the illusion, but also they were on the phone two dozen times. | ||
I really do feel like unless the Democrats decide that they're gonna | ||
replace Joe Biden for running for president as the candidate, I don't think that | ||
there's anything that's gonna happen no matter what the evidence comes out. | ||
No matter who says anything. | ||
Because I think Merrick Garland is incredibly corrupt. | ||
I don't think that he's gonna... I think that he's gonna protect the Bidens as much as possible. | ||
And it sucks to be so blackpilled. | ||
But really, I mean... | ||
The evidence is overwhelming that it's worth having hearings about and, you know, you can barely get... Democrats don't even want to, you know, hear the evidence. | ||
So I just... I hate the fact that I'm black-pilling. | ||
Did you say at the beginning, though, that you think they are going to replace Joe Biden? | ||
No, no, I said unless they're going to. | ||
Unless they start to really, like, wind up Gavin Newsom or whatever. | ||
I love that Harry Sisson guy, because he's like 20, but he's got the education of like a third grader. | ||
And I'm not saying to be mean, I'm saying quite literally, he tweeted out that, oh, was it Alito? | ||
Supreme Court said that Congress has no authority to regulate them, and he was shocked by it, and I'm like, bro, we learned that in like second grade. | ||
It's called the branches of government. | ||
They're all equal branches of government. | ||
They have no power over each other. | ||
They have degrees of power over each other for checks and balances. | ||
That's about it. | ||
But he really doesn't get it. | ||
And then he recently posted a photo, I bring him up, because he posted a photo of Joe Biden looking horrifying. | ||
And he was like, he looks so cool. | ||
It's like, dude, you know, I gotta be honest, if you're a Gen Z dude, and you're following that guy, and you agree that flabby, skipping leg day Joe Biden is cool looking, Oh, I'm sorry, man. | ||
The Harry Sisson thing's interesting. | ||
It's him and his buddy. | ||
They just kind of appeared out of nowhere, and they're like these young, kind of good-looking, like, young guys, and they do the frenetic thing where they do this a lot, like the Dash Dobrofsky thing, but it caught on, I guess. | ||
It's like a meme. | ||
Yeah, I was just trying to find the clip now. | ||
There's a hilarious one where he's just, like, frantically, like, he doesn't take a breath, and he's just talking, but it's hilarious. | ||
But what I think your point about those guys... He's scared to come on the show. | ||
I'd love that Harry on. | ||
They should come on, that'd be fun. | ||
But your point about those guys coming out of nowhere, I think 100% those guys would not have a huge following if the right didn't just make fun of them all the time. | ||
I agree. | ||
All their followers are the right making fun of them. | ||
But on purpose. | ||
That's why I see them, is because people are doing that on purpose. | ||
The right doesn't want to prop up the most articulate liberal speaker. | ||
They want to prop up the worst and most pathetic liberal speaker, so then they can knock him | ||
down and blow him, you know, straw man. | ||
Basically be like, oh, look at this guy and his arguments. | ||
You know, if there's someone who's very calm and makes a well-reasoned liberal argument, | ||
nobody's going to be outraged. | ||
They might respond and be like, I think you're wrong about this, and they'll send a link, and then no one cares. | ||
But you find someone who is genuinely ignorant of the facts, but screaming about nonsense, and you're just like, this is a spectacle. | ||
But do you think Harry Sisson is doing that on purpose? | ||
I think he's getting paid to do it. | ||
Paid by who? | ||
He works for some talent agency. | ||
Not directly. | ||
He works for some talent agency that gets funding from certain democratic groups. | ||
So, I've seen reporting. | ||
Oh, okay. | ||
And he gets paid to post. | ||
I mean, that's my assumption based on the news reporting. | ||
I could be wrong, but it's clout building. | ||
Okay. | ||
Everybody who does this and generates followers is going to make money from doing it. | ||
Okay, but I thought you were saying, like, he's intentionally being stupid and ignorant because he knows it'll rile up the conservatives. | ||
That's true, too. | ||
So then why would the DNC pay to, like, embarrass themselves with a guy like Harry Sisson? | ||
No one said they were smart. | ||
But I think you're thinking, too, absolutely. | ||
Right. | ||
There are people who post things intentionally stupid because it generates attention. | ||
I post troll posts, and then the media takes them seriously. | ||
I once said, impeach the Queen. | ||
And I had a whole article written about Tim Pool, journalist calls for the impeachment of Queen Elizabeth before she passed. | ||
And I'm just like, what? | ||
It was a joke. | ||
I can't believe they didn't impeach her. | ||
But they're like, he's the queen. | ||
Posthumously. | ||
No, she was alive at the time. | ||
Posthumously. | ||
I don't even remember why I said to impeach her, like she had something had happened. | ||
I guess she was not woke enough. | ||
I don't have no idea. | ||
But yeah, a lot of these people on social media, they just say utter nonsense to get followers. | ||
That's a good observation. | ||
You were saying that people will retweet or repost the cringe stuff because it's so bad. | ||
You're like, hey everyone, I want you to see how horrible this is so you know what you're up against. | ||
But I see it and it's like... | ||
I just feel like you're that guy talking to me when you repost him. | ||
So, like, I have to unfollow people when they repost trash content to make fun of it. | ||
I don't want that trash content in my life. | ||
I understand the mentality of, like... Yeah, and then you're also, like, you're convincing yourself of, like, a caricature of the left that isn't true, and then you're not prepared, like, if you want to debate the left, you're not really prepared on what they actually believe. | ||
And then, like, also in your everyday life, you might know, like, most of my friends and family members are, like, left-wing. | ||
And so if I look at Harry Sisson and I'm like, oh, I can't. | ||
But then if I get in a real conversation with my relatives, I'm going to be unprepared. | ||
I'm going to be like, oh, they're actually a lot smarter and I should, you know. | ||
It would be obviously better if everyone... I completely disagree. | ||
I certainly think Harry Sisson is a caricature of liberals who is like, it's shot content. | ||
But his understanding of reality is about on par with the average liberal voter. | ||
They could not point to Ukraine on a map. | ||
And there's varying degrees of this, but I gotta tell you, man, the key moment, a good example, is when we had Hunter Avalon on this show, and I said, in one example, that Joe Biden said, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you're not getting a billion dollars, and he smugly said that never happened. | ||
And then I played the video, and he was like, uh... | ||
Whoops! | ||
It's like, dude, I don't, I don't, I don't care for debate. | ||
Like, in this idea that we're gonna stand on a stage and hit a buzzer and be like, well, I have an argument, and do different debate tactics. | ||
That's stupid. | ||
I care about, here are the things that I think. | ||
Here's why I think them. | ||
If you are wrong, I will say you're wrong, I'll pull something up. | ||
If it turns out I'm wrong, I'll say, oh, I was wrong about that. | ||
Right, I agree, but that's, that is a debate. | ||
That's like the point of a debate. | ||
But my point is, I have no concern or fear of debating a liberal on any of these issues. | ||
At all. | ||
And I don't think I know everything about these issues. | ||
I, in fact, think I'm mostly wrong about them. | ||
Because you're open to discovering the truth. | ||
Because the deep state, the intelligence agencies, are not giving us the true and correct information about what's going on. | ||
But what I can say is I've read substantially more about all of this than any of you. | ||
And I do believe if you took an SD card and Neuralinked it, all the basic news coverage of Ukraine and Joe Biden into the head of the average liberal, they'd vote Donald Trump instantly. | ||
It's just that they don't know, they don't want to know, they watch CNN, and that's about it. | ||
Or MSNBC. | ||
And they believe people like Rachel Maddow, who's nearly in tears when Donald Trump isn't indicted as a Russian spy. | ||
They may not vote Trump, but they'll definitely not vote Biden. | ||
They vote Trump. | ||
I'm kind of that guy, I just... I'm not, I don't immediately go to the opposite party. | ||
Or RFK. | ||
If you downloaded all of the information on the Biden family, Ukraine and the war, the Obama administration, just all the news articles. | ||
Hillary, all her emails. | ||
Yeah, into their brains. | ||
They would just be like, now I understand why everyone's voting Trump. | ||
Full red pill. | ||
Full red pill. | ||
But if you go to a Trump supporter, and you were to download into their brains all of the news articles about Donald Trump, The thing is, most Trump supporters would be like, these are contradictions. | ||
This is the point. | ||
So my favorite two stories from Politico. | ||
One, that the Democrats were, that Ukraine said that there were Democrats trying to interfere in the 2016 election or something to that effect. | ||
Then you have several years later Politico reporting once again that in fact that was Russian disinformation, but never retracting or correcting their own reporting saying otherwise. | ||
How can Politico run two stories, one making a claim and one saying that claim was Russian disinformation without correcting? | ||
Because it's garbage nonsense. | ||
Now, the fact that I know those two articles exist gives me some keen insight into what's really going on in the world, especially considering who the journalist was who wrote the second article. | ||
You put those articles into the minds of the average person, and they're going to be like, something's not right here. | ||
Trump supporters already know the news contradicts itself and lies all the time. | ||
Many of these liberals just believe Rachel Maddow, and they think Fox News is lying. | ||
Granted, not a big fan of Sean Hannity, you know, but Tucker Carlson was pretty good. | ||
But they just read garbage from, like, the Daily Beast and then believe things that aren't true. | ||
I remember when I got red-pilled. | ||
It was the most depressing, probably the most depressing experience I've ever had in my life. | ||
It was, like, near suicidal, like, the way I gave up on life when I was like, this really is all fake. | ||
Not all, but, like, this whole American Dream thing is, like, fed to me on the backs of slaves, really. | ||
Let me pull up this story from the Daily Beast. | ||
This is a good example. | ||
Joe Rogan says it's a fact that January 6th was a false flag, cites Ray Epps. | ||
Now that's a misleading headline if I've ever seen one, but of course, that's the Daily Beast. | ||
If you are someone who only consumes garbage nonsense like the Daily Beast, you might think Joe Rogan's this crazy Alex Jones guy. | ||
However, fortunately for Joe Rogan, he's like one of the most famous people on the planet, and many of his fans know who he really is, so they smears, they don't go very far. | ||
But let me read this for you. | ||
They say wildly popular podcaster Joe Rogan once again pushed the baseless conspiracy theory that the January 6th Capitol insurrection was a false flag orchestrated by the federal government, adding that pro-Trump rioter Ray Epps clearly instigated the attack. | ||
Now hold on there a minute. | ||
Ray Epps is on camera. | ||
The night before and the day of, telling people to go to the Capitol and go in the building. | ||
He's then seen whispering in someone's ear, and he's on the front line as the people breach the Capitol grounds. | ||
Curious. | ||
They didn't go after him. | ||
The feds didn't go after him. | ||
He was protected by the media, defended by the media, and even now, they're trying to obfuscate what he did. | ||
It's fascinating, isn't it? | ||
Earlier this month, Epps sued Fox News for defaming him, this we know, and in that lawsuit, we're hearing that Epps may actually be facing criminal charges. | ||
They go on to mention that Rogan's got a contract with Spotify, blah blah blah. | ||
Rogan said the intelligence community had a vested interest in this going sideways, adding that if somebody wanted to disparage a political party, or to maybe have some sort of justification for getting some influential person like Trump offline, that would be the way they would do it. | ||
And Joe Rogan is completely correct. | ||
He was talking to Jim Gaffigan, who did not know ANYTHING about this, I gotta tell you. | ||
When I listen to Joe Rogan talk to Jim Gaffigan, I'm a political guy. | ||
I sit here, I read all this news, I am just like shaking wanting to talk to these guys. | ||
You should get Gaffigan on the show for sure. | ||
And be like, ask me any question and I will answer it and I will show you all the sources. | ||
I will pull them up one at a time. | ||
And you can, by all means, not believe the Guardian or NPR, the New York Times. | ||
Just, you gotta have some standard. | ||
Do you believe the Zelds or not? | ||
Do you believe Politico or not? | ||
Okay, well that's what we're basing this off of. | ||
But Jim doesn't know anything. | ||
He doesn't know anything about it. | ||
So what did Joe Rogan really say? | ||
He said they never went after Ray Epps. | ||
He's seen on camera instigating this stuff. | ||
Makes you wonder. | ||
And now we know what he said was a fact is that there were guys there who were intelligence assets encouraging people or I should say some kind of government agent or law enforcement. | ||
This is not controversial. | ||
This is confirmed. | ||
Yeah. | ||
They're admitted to doing it, to going, let's go, let's go, hey, go, go, go, and pushing people towards the Capitol. | ||
Oh, is that admitted? | ||
That agents pushed people towards the Capitol? | ||
There's body camera footage of people associated with law enforcement. | ||
I have to pull this up, I'm going to be very careful here. | ||
Because I want to make sure we're getting it right. | ||
But they're saying things like, go, go, go. | ||
When questioned, I think it was the FBI said, we cannot answer, were there people involved at all? | ||
Yeah yeah they pled the fifth basically and I did see that clip and that and and Joe Rogan cited Epps and he cited you know the FBI director pleading the fifth but yeah it was like early on there was like very early on after Jan 6 there was a New York Times article and it was like Federal agent, you know, describes his experience on Jan 6. | ||
So, um, it's long been acknowledged that there were federal agents in Jan 6. | ||
I think the strongest, uh, argument for false flag there was the pipe bomb, which apparently they have footage of, like, the guy who put it there, and they apparently know where he lives, too. | ||
They've, they've, like, I forget where I heard this, but they know his address, and yet they have not prosecuted him or explained whether it was a pipe bomb or not. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
It doesn't look like they've investigated what that was. | ||
Well, that's scandalous, because that guy's like number one. | ||
Yeah, Thomas Massie has been posting about this, and that is, in my opinion, the most compelling evidence. | ||
Because the bombs that were placed around the Capitol heightened the entire situation to such a level that you might be able to justify bringing in federal troops or detaining people without Without charge or trial. | ||
Great point. | ||
Jim Gaffigan makes a good question though. | ||
He's like, why didn't Trump call anybody in? | ||
Why didn't Trump just say, get law enforcement down there right now? | ||
I think it's fair to say that Trump was bumbling quite a bit. | ||
I don't think Trump had any intention on anyone going into the Capitol. | ||
I think he genuinely had no idea what was going on. | ||
And I don't mean that he didn't know there were people storming the Capitol on one side and going in the other. | ||
I'm saying he did not comprehend the situation. | ||
You've read, though, that apparently after his speech, he told Secret Service to drive him to the Capitol, and they said, no, we're taking you. | ||
Pretty sure that was a fake story. | ||
Oh, was that a fake story? | ||
Because they claimed that Trump, like, attacked the driver. | ||
Well, yeah, it was exaggerated that he attacked the driver, but what I gathered from that was like, if Trump did actually want to go to the Capitol and talk to these guys, it could have been a totally different outcome. | ||
If Trump was there and he was like, hey guys, we want to do this peacefully as he was saying in his speech. | ||
Trump was still speaking when they were breaching the Capitol grounds. | ||
Oh, okay. | ||
Right. | ||
But either way, if he had gotten there, he could have ended it. | ||
And so it's weird that Secret Service would say, no, we're not letting you go. | ||
And it's weird that Trump couldn't override that with just a direct order also. | ||
So, you know. | ||
Yeah, I got personal criticisms. | ||
I mean, I wasn't the president. | ||
President did a hell of a job during COVID, man, but the way he didn't send in federal troops during the riots of 2020. | ||
President did a hell of a job during COVID? | ||
Well, no. | ||
You think Operation Warp Speed was good? | ||
No, I don't think he did a good job. | ||
I mean, the president has a hell of a job during something like that, is what I mean. | ||
So I can't talk too much shit about him and be like, well, if I was there, I would have this and that, because backseat driving, hindsight's 20-20. | ||
But he didn't send in the troops. | ||
Day one of the 2020 insurrections, whatever the hell these street riots that broke out after the George Floyd death. | ||
I told Tim the next day, like, where are the fucking National Guard? | ||
What are we waiting for? | ||
This is going to spread out of control. | ||
This is like a fire burning right now. | ||
And it did. | ||
Two days, three days later, two days later, the whole city's starting to get burned down. | ||
And I'm like, where's the president of the United States? | ||
The armed chief of our military commander, like, And I think he was so afraid of being called a fascist he didn't want to invoke, he didn't want to bring the troops in. | ||
So where were the troops on January 6th? | ||
I want to make sure we get this in the segment. | ||
This is an article from WLOS.com. | ||
An FBI informant embedded within the Proud Boys on January 6th, identified in the record only by the name Aaron, testified for the defense. | ||
The witness said he was not aware of any plans by the Proud Boys to invade the U.S. | ||
Capitol building. | ||
So that's one simple example. | ||
We then have this. | ||
This is a filing, uh, this is, uh, defense writing. | ||
The DOJ recently disclosed involvement of undercover officer informants from other agencies aside from the FBI and DC Metro Police. | ||
At least 40 undercover informants. | ||
So that was one of the big stories. | ||
There was another, uh, there were another couple videos that came out. | ||
And you guys should definitely fact check me on this one. | ||
It is hard to do because most of the corporate press ignores this stuff. | ||
But there were a few videos from law enforcement who were shouting things like, I think the video in question was, let's go, let's go, keep going, keep going, or something like that. | ||
Well, that's fascinating, because if that's true, then that's kind of the crux of the whole false flag claim. | ||
So if that's true, then Joe Rogan was in fact correct. | ||
Well, no, no. | ||
Joe Rogan asked whether or not the possibility of a false flag could be, and whether it made sense, and it certainly does make sense. | ||
They used the insurrection thing for two years, just screaming non-stop over and over again on TV that it was an insurrection, and now the speculation is they'll try to use this to get Trump removed from the ballot. | ||
So certainly there was a benefit to all of this. | ||
They deleted Trump's tweets calling for peace. | ||
They deleted Trump's Facebook posts where he was saying, I don't think they deleted, they suspended him. | ||
Trump had said things like, everybody go home, we respect law enforcement. | ||
They shuffled that away and then claimed he was calling for violence. | ||
I'm uh you know if you're a commander and you've got a your capital is under siege by its own civilians like and they're they're starting a riot or they're starting a thing like you've got a few options you know you can bring out the guns and try and turn them down that you can ask beg them to stop which doesn't really work against large crowds or you can insert Active duty officers into the crowd to break it up. | ||
Agent provocateurs. | ||
Yeah, agents to break it up from inside. | ||
That's probably the smartest method. | ||
Joe Rogan points out the WTO protests in Seattle. | ||
They called it the Battle for Seattle. | ||
They had agent provocateurs there. | ||
We've seen videos. | ||
There's a lot of speculation all the time about agent provocateurs. | ||
There was one story in Canada where protesters had military-style boots, started acting violently. | ||
The left has argued this for a long time. | ||
They conveniently forget the possibility when it comes to the right. | ||
unidentified
|
Why? | |
They're happy it happened. | ||
You had the Gravel Institute tweeting in support of January 6th, except for the fact that it was right-wing. | ||
They actually tweeted that it was good what happened, it was just bad that it was conservatives or right-wingers that were doing it. | ||
They like it. | ||
When it comes to agent provocateurs, the left will tell you to your face the government stages fake activists to incite violence for the purpose of discrediting protest movements. | ||
And then when the right is protesting, the left says, I have no idea what you're talking about. | ||
And here you are. | ||
Yeah. | ||
You can make the same argument for election fraud as well. | ||
Yep. | ||
Yeah, we need people to stand up for the rights of other, the people you don't agree with. | ||
Like if you see, maybe it's a big ask, but if you see your political opponents under duress and they're being treated poorly or illegally, you've got to stand up for those people. | ||
Yeah, you need to stand on principle as opposed to partisan. | ||
To a certain degree. | ||
To a certain degree. | ||
There is no history, there's no evidence of that happening from, really from either side, but definitely from the Democrats for the past 15, 20 years. | ||
And that's why I say to a certain degree, because perhaps when the country is unified, but there's partisan bickering, you get angry when the DOJ is weaponized against a political group. | ||
You say, hey guys, you can't do that. | ||
Unfortunately, right now, we're in something substantially deeper than that. | ||
And now the question is, when they're trying to destroy you, do you provide them with your support? | ||
Yes, first time in my life I've ever been in a situation like where they were in the 50s where they were really afraid the communists were going to take over the country. | ||
So they were like, was it J. Edgar Hoover's blacklist or whatever? | ||
He'd like start blacklisting all these people that had communist ties and people were losing their jobs and their careers. | ||
And like, maybe if they hadn't done that, we would have become a communist nation. | ||
So I don't know. | ||
Do you know that communists are excluded from the Civil Rights Act? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yeah, I think I did know that. | ||
This is still true to this day, and I got questions about the legal merits of- it's in the law. | ||
And it's not- I do not believe it's been adjudicated, so I wonder what would happen if you were just like, no communists allowed. | ||
This is just- this is like- I don't have any kind of evidence, it's just my impression, but in the 50s and the Red Scare and stuff, and I really need to go and do more reading about what it was actually like, but it really seemed like the people that were really opposed to communism in the 50s and 60s, it seemed like they really understood that the left, that the international left, has a fundamental different understanding of the world. | ||
I was listening to this book called, this audio book called Explaining Postmodernism | ||
by Stephen Hicks. | ||
And one of the things that he talks about is the way that the left doesn't have the | ||
same kind of foundation that the right does. | ||
And it's about, you know, liberalism versus authoritarianism. | ||
And you're not going to be able to find common ground with people that have a fundamental | ||
different understanding of what the truth is or what reality is. | ||
And if there is no truth, then it's fine to use ad hominems and call everybody Nazis and stuff. | ||
And we're seeing the effects of that now. | ||
20 or 30 years to the 30 or 40 years now actually the left is called everybody on the right a Nazi and every president's a Nazi and always goes to the absolute worst where you know there's a lot of people in America now that aren't Unfortunately, that are not so afraid of the word of being called a racist anymore. | ||
You know, they're just like, well, you call everybody that, you call everybody Nazi, you call everybody, so it doesn't matter. | ||
And that's something that we have to deal with. | ||
And I don't see how we can deal with the struggles that we're having as a country if we can't even agree on what the philosophy that the United States is founded on. | ||
But hold on, but hold on, because you're giving credit to the people in the 1950s and you're kind of saying, well, they were actually good intention and they were actually against communists and pro-freedom. | ||
I'm only saying that maybe they understood better than the average person now. | ||
I'm not trying to give them undue credit. | ||
But then you talk about the difference in ideology, which is one is collectivism, one is individualism. | ||
And I agree, I'm a big individualist. | ||
But when you go on this like Red Scare campaign, you're immediately dissolving one of the crucial things of individualism, which is like, One of the flaws or one of the greatest challenges that liberalism has is liberalism accepts the arguments of opposing viewpoints as if they are coming from liberals, right? | ||
So if you enter the disagreement expecting the person you're having a debate with to be honest, But they were not going to be honest. | ||
You can never come out. | ||
You can never have a fair exchange. | ||
So that's one of the things that liberals have to figure out how to deal with. | ||
And that's why that's why liberals and that's why the communists say liberals always choose fascists over communists because the only way that you can fight authoritarians is with authoritarianism. | ||
Right, but then you become, like, the monster you're trying to fight. | ||
Like, it's what Tim said with, like, the original, uh, purpose of, like, these international bodies, and then the grandchildren just forget what the purpose was. | ||
Like, look at what the FBI is now. | ||
Look at what the CIA is now. | ||
unidentified
|
Well, yeah, but to be fair... Like, how could you say that, um... They were always that way. | |
Yeah, and if you look at J. Edgar Hoover, they were always that way, so I just don't think there's any credence to this argument of like, we need to embrace authoritarianism to get rid of communism. | ||
No, I didn't say that we need to embrace it, but I'm saying that the current problem that we have is that liberalism doesn't have It doesn't have a mechanism to deal with dishonesty, but it does, though, and it's only supporting liberalism and not supporting other ideologies. | ||
Fair enough, but the problem that we're experiencing now is authoritarians lie to liberals, shit libs, bad liberals. | ||
They lie to shit libs and shit libs believe them because what the authoritarians are telling the liberals sounds good. | ||
But the tool then is education, and it's very difficult, obviously, especially with echo chambers, but to me that's the only viable tool. | ||
And that was another Jefferson quote, something about educating the masses is like how to secure liberty. | ||
A lot of that's with tone, because the data itself doesn't convince people that you can do it with a good tone. | ||
And another shout out to Dave Smith, because I think he does that extremely well. | ||
Yeah, he is so good at that. | ||
Let's jump to this war story. | ||
My girlfriend who's super apolitical loves him. | ||
He's so funny. | ||
Let's jump to the story from NPR. | ||
We love NPR, guys. | ||
A drone attack on Moscow briefly shut one of its airports, an injured one. | ||
Take a look at this photo. | ||
There was a video I played earlier, we don't have it pulled up right now, where it's a guy driving down the highway and he's just filming this destruction on this building. | ||
And it is terrifying stuff. | ||
They say Russian authorities say three Ukrainian drones attacked Moscow in the early hours on Sunday. | ||
Injuring one person and prompting a temporary closure for traffic of one of four airports around the Russian capital was the fourth such attempt at a strike on the capital region this month. | ||
Now, I saw some people on Twitter claim this was a secret government office that was protected by Russian security forces. | ||
Perhaps that makes sense. | ||
I don't know why else they would strike the target. | ||
They're going to go after military targets. | ||
But this is now escalation of warfare into civilian capitals, into Moscow. | ||
This is... I think there's... we're starting to see, um... | ||
A real case for this expanding well beyond just a Ukrainian conflict, it's already now in Russia, and where else could it go next as it's spreading? | ||
There was a news report that a Russian strike was 600 feet from the Romanian border, which could theoretically launch this thing just dramatically out of control. | ||
unidentified
|
And is Romania a NATO country? | |
I don't know about Romania. | ||
I don't know. | ||
Let's find out. | ||
Well, so I will say, so I was at State Department today and Serge, it's not on Grayzone yet, | ||
but you can maybe bring it up on the State Department's YouTube channel. | ||
I asked him about this drone strike and Tim, to your point of light. | ||
Romania is. | ||
As of tomorrow, Romania is in NATO. | ||
Oh, really? | ||
No, as of 2004. | ||
August 1st, 2023? | ||
Are you sure? | ||
It says 2004, post-Cold War enlargement. | ||
It says alphabetical list of NATO member countries and it says Romania 2004. | ||
Maybe this is a typo. | ||
That's weird. | ||
Oh, no, no, it's saying that as of tomorrow, Rumi is a NATO member. | ||
But it has been since 04. | ||
Sorry to interrupt, Liam. | ||
Oh, no worries. | ||
So yeah, I asked the State Department about this. | ||
And to your point of like, did Ukraine do this? | ||
I mean, it was fairly obvious. | ||
So like an hour after this drone blows up. | ||
Zelensky made a statement and he says, quote, "...gradually the war is returning to the territory of Russia, to its symbolic centers and military bases, and this is an inevitable, natural and absolutely fair process." | ||
So Zelensky said that and he's explicitly said, we're targeting symbolic centers. | ||
Um, which, to me, I could only mean, you know, areas where civilians gather, so it sounds like we're targeting civilians, and I asked the State Department this, and, um, he basically said, well, I don't know if that's what symbolic centers means, and then he brushed it off and wouldn't let me get a follow-up in, but, um, to me, when you make a speech like that an hour after the explosion happens, that kind of looks like you're taking credit for it. | ||
Um, and so it's extremely scary. | ||
I mean, and it's crazy that the U.S., I mean, we keep, like, U.S. | ||
officials keep saying, like, well, we don't support attack, we don't support attacks on Russia's border. | ||
Well, it's like, well, you keep funding them and arming them to do it. | ||
So at what point are you gonna, like, you know, enforce your, um, lack of support for attacking Russia's border? | ||
And, um, you know, it's just scary. | ||
I mean, this war keeps going every day. | ||
We've got U.S. | ||
civilians on the ground in Ukraine. | ||
And the U.S. | ||
providing weapons, which end up in the hands of many of these people. | ||
Like, Russia knows full well what's going on. | ||
When it comes to this strike on Russian targets, Russia's not going, oh, those Ukrainians are at it again. | ||
They're saying, NATO just attacked our capital. | ||
So this seems like the only path forward is going to be escalation. | ||
Could be a false flag. | ||
Could be Russian drones doing it to themselves. | ||
Doesn't matter. | ||
Either way, the same thing happens. | ||
If it's a false flag, then Russia wants to escalate, and it's even worse. | ||
But if it was a false flag, why would Zelensky come out an hour later and basically be like, hey, we're going after symbolic centers? | ||
I guess you'd be like, if you were the commander and then some random elements within your country bombed some random elements within the enemy country, you'd be like, see, there you go. | ||
American greatness is what we do. | ||
Yes, let me bring you back to the era of piracy where there would be privateers and corsairs who would receive letters of marque from their government to disrupt the enemy's supply lines. | ||
And then let's say it was the English and the French. | ||
The French would capture a pirate ship running black sails or whatever, a black flag, and then these guys are clearly British, they'd go to the Crown and say, we know that you are ransacking our trade lines, and say, oh, how dare you! | ||
We would never condone piracy! | ||
unidentified
|
Oh, oh, oh, I am offended! | |
That's what they do. | ||
So, what's going on right now? | ||
It is the most... annoying thing ever, when these officers are like, the US is not involved in war, those are volunteers! | ||
I'm like, shut up. | ||
It's effectively the same thing. | ||
No one's stu... Like, you can believe whatever you want to believe so that you can sleep at night. | ||
But I assure you, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Millie, whoever it may be, is under no illusion that we are not involved in this. | ||
They know exactly what they're funding. | ||
And Russia is the exact same. | ||
In the Vietnam War, it was the Americans versus the Russians, basically. | ||
Right. | ||
Versus the Russians and the Chinese, maybe. | ||
But somehow, we just never came to blows with Russia. | ||
We never even talked about it as if it was... | ||
Against Russia. | ||
We did, we called it proxy war. | ||
Yeah, they were funding the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese. | ||
U.S. | ||
Middle Eastern involvement was proxy war. | ||
Against, very much so, Russia. | ||
And to a certain degree, Chinese interests. | ||
Funding the Mujahideen, yeah, that was a proxy war. | ||
Yeah, against the Soviets. | ||
And that's what Syria is, our support for the rebel groups. | ||
Syria would not side with us because they're allied with Russia. | ||
So, of course, anyone in government aligned with Russia, we opposed. | ||
How convenient. | ||
I'm like, did ISIS, were they funded by the Russians? | ||
CIA. | ||
Like, you would think if the Russians were really our enemies, they would have been funding ISIS. | ||
But I cannot remember that happening at all. | ||
This is why they were happy when Trump decimated ISIS. | ||
When Trump started taking them out, Putin's like, this is good. | ||
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
It was good for both. | ||
And then they claimed that the reason Putin didn't invade Ukraine was because Donald Trump was catering to Putin's interests. | ||
And I'm like, yeah. | ||
Destroying ISIS? | ||
Not getting us involved in wars? | ||
Wow, it's almost like he was dealing with the American people. | ||
Yeah, and he armed Ukraine with a bunch of weapons too, which is obviously not in Russia's interest. | ||
There was also a tweet on this explosion. | ||
This account tweets it out and they're like, oh my god, drones hitting Moscow, how unfortunate, and then like a little sunglasses emoji meaning like, you know, we like this. | ||
And then the General Michael Hayden, who's the former director of the CIA and NSA, tweets out, oh, it's an act of God, like about this explosion. | ||
You can watch the video. | ||
There's like this woman who's screaming she's in terror. | ||
It's like a horrible video to watch. | ||
And the former director of the CIA and NSA is like celebrating this on Twitter. | ||
It is insane. | ||
Of course. | ||
It's like that shark attack where there was the shark attack and people were like happy because some Russian dude got eaten by a shark. | ||
unidentified
|
Oh my gosh. | |
Who has nothing to do with the war? | ||
It's like, people who don't realize that it's the government's perpetrating these wars, and like, you know, most of these soldiers are conscripted anyways, it's like, you should be mad at the government. | ||
Even if you, you know, believe the whole narrative around Ukraine, you should be mad at Putin and the government. | ||
You don't celebrate, like, civilians getting bombed in Moscow. | ||
What do you think is a just solution to the war? | ||
I mean, I think the war could have been avoided in the first place by giving up or holding referendums in which, by the way, Zelensky campaigned on this. | ||
He campaigned on holding referendums in the Donbas in Crimea because there was like a decade-long civil war in the Donbas and, of course, Russia basically controls Crimea. | ||
And, and this civil war was awful. | ||
And so, and Poroshenko's, um, by the end of, like, by Zelensky, when he was campaigning in 2019, Poroshenko's approval rating was so low because of this war. | ||
It was like people didn't, people didn't want to fight this war. | ||
And, and that's why also the Azov battalion, which is kind of the, the neo-Nazi sect, um, grew, you know, so much stronger. | ||
It's because people didn't, the only people who wanted to fight were those guys. | ||
But so, Zelensky campaigns and he's like, I'm gonna hold referendums in the Donbas, I'm gonna let them decide whether they want autonomy, whether they want to secede or be in Ukraine. | ||
And he wins overwhelmingly, he wins like 75% of the vote. | ||
And in the East, everyone voted for him in the general election. | ||
Then he gets in, And he doesn't do it. | ||
He seemed open to it. | ||
You can actually look, there's like old, there's like Biden 2021 White House statements where Biden is like saying like, no, no, Crimea is Ukraine. | ||
We're going to stick to this. | ||
And Zelensky earlier had been like, well, I'm still open to referendums there. | ||
But then Biden makes, gets involved and is like, no, no, Crimea is Ukraine. | ||
Boris Johnson was sent in and crushed a peace agreement. | ||
Yeah, that was after the war, but so in terms of like a peace agreement could have been just hold referendums in the Donbas in Crimea. | ||
Crimea overwhelmingly, even by like U.S. | ||
government conducted polls in 2014, Crimea overwhelmingly wants to join Russia. | ||
The Donbas, it's not clear whether they want to join or secede or want more like just governing autonomy from Kiev. | ||
Just hold those referendums and see what happens. | ||
That was Putin's demand before he invaded. | ||
And you could have just granted that and people say like, well, you can't do that because then he'll just be even closer and he'll keep going. | ||
But it's like, take the chance on it then at least. | ||
Or like, negotiate some, I don't know, negotiate something better. | ||
But like, the idea that this counterfactual is like, well, Putin would have gone even further. | ||
It's like, well, guess what? | ||
Hundreds of thousands have died, Ukraine is destroyed, and millions are now refugees because of that counterfactual that you're so sure of. | ||
We could have held these referendums and we potentially could have avoided the entire war. | ||
And we still could. | ||
We still could do that now. | ||
I think if Donald Trump gets elected, the day they call it for Trump, the hour, the minute, the war stops. | ||
Yeah, I mean, I think he would probably do maybe some form of what I just said. | ||
I don't know what exactly he would do. | ||
No, I just think the moment they say, and the winner of the 2024 presidential election is projected to be Donald Trump, Russia immediately says ceasefire. | ||
And Zelensky, too, would be like, finally, the dogs are off my back. | ||
I can do what I want with my country. | ||
I think some of the dogs on his back are kind of the far-right guys within his own government. | ||
But Putin stops right away because he wants more leverage. | ||
So Putin is probably going to be saying, Trump's going to come in, he's going to end this, we're not going to get everything we want, we'll get enough of what we want, but if we're still fighting, we'll gain more leverage by stopping the fighting right now. | ||
Then, you know, brushing up to Trump's ego and being like, we knew that as soon as you got in, you were going to be reasonable and help us end this conflict, so we pulled our troops back. | ||
Trump's going to be like, absolutely, here's what I expect. | ||
It's over. | ||
100%. | ||
I mean, I think that's true of not only Trump, but I think that's true of RFK and Vivek as well. | ||
Um, agreed. | ||
Um, but I, I also think like Trump winning is just a massive fantasy. | ||
I mean, I think, um, we, I, I can't recite like the whole history. | ||
I know, I know a couple of interesting facts about the whole JFK assassination. | ||
And to me, it's overwhelming that the CIA killed him. | ||
So, you know, Donald Trump won in 2016. | ||
Well, he won, and then, you know, the intelligence agencies... well, I guess Hillary and her team fabricated the dossier, and then this kind of... They tied stones to Trump's feet? | ||
Exactly. | ||
But do you really think he's going to be allowed in with, like, the stated goal of, like, getting revenge at the deep state? | ||
Or do you think they might just pull the trigger at some point? | ||
Well, I don't know about any of that. | ||
I mean, RFK's talked about the risk, you know, based on his family history. | ||
So perhaps, and there's been other people who have speculated, horrifying things may happen, but look, I believe that if Donald Trump is harmed, this country implodes overnight. | ||
I mean, it's chaos beyond chaos. | ||
If something happens to Trump in that capacity, not an option. | ||
Well, I think what's terrifying about this is the left would believe it. | ||
The left would be like, yeah, people hate Trump. | ||
No, but that's why you're so correct. | ||
The left would believe it. | ||
They'd be like, yeah, everyone hates Trump. | ||
Of course, someone would assassinate him. | ||
But the right is going to be like, no, he was the governor. | ||
Yeah, exactly. | ||
And then the right, that's going to cause chaos. | ||
So you have to ask yourself, why the United States has not, say, assassinated Julian Assange? | ||
When Hillary Clinton reportedly said, can't we just drone this guy? | ||
And they're like, yeah, he's in London. | ||
Right? | ||
Why? | ||
Certain people, they got no problem with. | ||
Maybe it's a 16-year-old American citizen. | ||
Barack Obama's like, we're gonna blow him up! | ||
Because his dad's a terrorist. | ||
So they kill Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki in a civilian restaurant in a country we're not at war with. | ||
Trump killed his son, though, too. | ||
Trump killed... Or his... His daughter. | ||
His daughter. | ||
Now, see... Hypothetically? | ||
I don't know. | ||
That is a claim made by the family, whereas the drone strike on a civilian restaurant is confirmed by the U.S. | ||
unidentified
|
government. | |
And another thing, it's one thing to kill Catch a round in a gunfight and it's another thing to have someone shoot a missile at you. | ||
But investigate Trump. | ||
Yeah, fine, I don't care. | ||
If this is collateral damage and an American girl died, he's responsible for that. | ||
Presidents shouldn't be allowed to get away with this stuff, especially when we're not at war with this country. | ||
But, uh, but, fair point, right. | ||
You know, Barack Obama was like, blow him up! | ||
Whoops. | ||
Yeah, I mean, Barack Obama had his actual kill list, like, list of people he was gonna shoot. | ||
But, they claimed they were targeting a different guy, and he was an act, it was a, whoops, we got the wrong guy, but, you know. | ||
Convenient, whoops. | ||
But yeah, yeah, you know, so, I don't, I think, If something happens to Donald Trump, this country gets ripped apart in two seconds. | ||
And the reason why they don't go after people like Julian Assange is because they don't want to make martyrs. | ||
You will make that man immortal and only in his best features. | ||
Yeah, I feel like there'll be some behind the scenes shenanigans to keep him out of office before an assassination for that same reason. | ||
He's too powerful metaphorically for that. | ||
I agree with that. | ||
I'm just saying, if there's a chance he's gonna get into office, they'll pull Clinton. | ||
What I find fascinating is that Roseanne says there's not gonna be an election. | ||
And I had to ask her to clarify, because Michael Mao said, of course there will be. | ||
But I think it's probably a mix of the two perspectives. | ||
There'll be an election, but no one will care. | ||
No one will accept it. | ||
No one. | ||
You think 2020 was bad? | ||
2024 is going to... | ||
It's just going to be nuts. | ||
It's going to be bad. | ||
Because now, after 2020, you're going to have every single Trump supporter filming everything. | ||
You are going to have a hundred times as many videos coming out showing weird things that may be innocuous, may be nothing, or may be suspicious. | ||
And no matter who wins or who loses, the other side will refuse. | ||
We saw the Boston Globe story where powerful Democrats suggested the West Coast secede from the Union in the event Donald Trump gets elected. | ||
That's how crazy they are. | ||
Now what do you think happens if Trump loses again? | ||
This time, there's going to be people everywhere filming literally everything. | ||
I thought 2020 was going to be more chaotic than it was. | ||
Maybe I'm wrong about 2024. | ||
But I just don't see anyone accepting the results. | ||
Yeah, I mean, you know, I'll settle for making it to 2024 and as long as, you know, we do not blow up the world in Ukraine or over Taiwan if that ever happens. | ||
So let me let me pull up this story from the Daily Mail. | ||
Check this one out. | ||
JFK director Oliver Stone says he made a mistake voting for Joe Biden in 2020 because he fears president will start World War Three with his support for Ukraine. | ||
There you go. | ||
He said, quote, if we don't stop this, what Biden is doing, this guy, I voted for him. | ||
I made a mistake. | ||
I was thinking he was an old man now and that he would calm down, that he would be more mellow and so forth. | ||
I didn't see that at all. | ||
I see a man who maybe is not in charge of his own administration. | ||
Who knows? | ||
It seems that he's dragging us stupidly into a confrontation with a power that is not going to give. | ||
This is their borders. | ||
This is their world. | ||
This is NATO going into Ukraine. | ||
This is their whole other story. | ||
He's right. | ||
Imagine what would happen if China went into Mexico and took large portions of its government to start putting troops and sending weapons. | ||
The U.S. | ||
would go nuts! | ||
I just saw, no, the U.S. | ||
wouldn't because there's literally, I just saw a tweet by someone that was talking about Chinese police stations here in the U.S. | ||
policing the Chinese people. | ||
Biolabs. | ||
Yeah, biolabs and stuff here in the U.S. | ||
I don't think that the American people I really think that as much as there are people that complain a lot on the internet and stuff, I really think that Americans are way too comfortable to get really, really buck wild in like some kind of revolutionary way. | ||
They'll get out in the streets and they'll, you know, throw rocks and stuff and throw Molotovs and try and get into fights with the police, but that's only the most mentally Questionable or at risk if you want to call them that people that the average peep your average person has even the people that have it bad have it better than most humans in human history. | ||
I just don't see the revolutionary energy that What's your point, though, with China? | ||
You just mean, like, the fact that people are not angry about that? | ||
Yeah, there's Chinese, you know, there's talking about building a Chinese listening post in Cuba. | ||
There's actual Chinese, I guess, government police that are policing Chinese, former Chinese citizens or whatever. | ||
unidentified
|
And the biolab thing just came out with COVID, mice, and HIV. | |
And China's done the same thing in Canada. | ||
They violated, if the United States actually took the Monroe Doctrine seriously anymore, there would be at least some type of retaliation between all this stuff that we talked about, that we've mentioned in the past five minutes or whatever, and the spy balloon that went over and stuff. | ||
I understand that most libertarians are like, you know, we shouldn't be looking for problems with other countries, and I agree. | ||
When you got a country sending a police force into your borders and policing citizens of your country from a foreign country, I get it that you're anti-war libertarians, but hey, at some point, the actual sovereignty of your country matters. | ||
even if you have open borders. Well, so I agree. And I get like, we should be | ||
moderately upset about those things. But I think on this on the scale of like, I agree there's no | ||
revolutionary energy, but like I'm way more concerned about like this war we're talking | ||
about, what Roger Stone's talking about, about blowing up the world. Like if there's a Chinese | ||
police station in my local city, that is pretty weird and concerning. But I'm much more concerned | ||
with like my president potentially being blackmailed by Ukraine and then therefore | ||
looping me into a nuclear war that could literally kill me one day. | ||
That's where the revolutionary energy needs to be focused, and I agree there's a lack of it. | ||
It could simply be blackmail. | ||
That Hunter Biden's on the board of Arisma, Devin Archer calls DC, says we want the prosecutor fired, the elites, the oligarchs, the people in Ukraine know exactly what Joe Biden did, and then they call him up and say, we're gonna spill the beans unless you give us what we want. | ||
Yeah, no, I've, like, gamed that out in my head as well. | ||
I think it could exactly be that, and it's just crazy. | ||
And, you know, we should all come together as a country and just say, Joe, whatever they got on you, it's totally fine. | ||
We're not gonna judge. | ||
Let the blackmail come out. | ||
I'd much rather see a naked photo of Joe. | ||
It's not that. | ||
It's gonna be evidence. | ||
It's gonna be felonies. | ||
Right, no, I know, I was gonna say with a kid, I was gonna say like a naked photo of him with a kid, but like, just let that come out and just end the war, man, it's more important. | ||
Support pardoning Joe Biden? | ||
To end the war? | ||
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
Or just in general, just even preemptively with no expectation of anything after, would you? | ||
With just for no reason? | ||
Assuming that there's gonna stuff is gonna come out later is why my reason would be but would you do it not with any expectation or like tit-for-tat just be like oh would I do it right now hoping like the war and hoping there is blackmail and hoping the war ends? | ||
Or yeah, or for any reason. | ||
Would you be willing to pardon? | ||
Yes, I would. | ||
unidentified
|
Yes. | |
For any reason at all. | ||
Yeah, I see what you're saying. | ||
Yeah, I would do it for that reason. | ||
But he's asking if you would straight pardon him for no reason. | ||
Well, you're not really—I can't tell if you're saying no reason. | ||
I mean, if there's no reason— I'm not as concerned with the reason. | ||
I'm just asking if you would do it. | ||
If you would just say you're pardoned. | ||
There are reasons where I would do it, and that was one of them. | ||
But if you have... I think of it as like 5D chess. | ||
All these pardons that we gotta do, I see no other way forward. | ||
If you have evidence of him doing something wrong, no. | ||
You have a tribunal. | ||
If we know for a fact that he was engaged in illicit activities, then he is criminally charged. | ||
If you have no need to pardon him, if you have the pardoning power, you simply just indict him. | ||
You could do that, indict, and then pardon him. | ||
Why would you pardon him? | ||
So that we don't have this tit-for-tat, so that then the next generation, they don't come back for you, Hunter's sister doesn't come back with guns abla- you know, you don't want to just keep the cycle moving. | ||
Hunter's sister? | ||
Yeah, whoever. | ||
I wouldn't be worried about that, but yeah, I agree in terms of like- I don't agree with the idea that by allowing elite criminals to get away with their crimes, you actually stop the crime. | ||
Well, what you do want to do is expose them and make the world know what they did, but then pardon them for it. | ||
Yeah, if you expose them and the world knows what they did and then you pardon them, that is not going to disincentivize people from doing the same in the future. | ||
I don't know if anything can disincentivize it. | ||
Yeah, all the incentives are in their favor. | ||
Guillotines. | ||
Well, that didn't work well in the French Revolution, because, like, who's in control of the guillotine? | ||
Like, who's deciding? | ||
The guy who ultimately got his head cut off. | ||
Yeah, Maurice Pierre. | ||
That's right. | ||
Not just him, but, you know. | ||
There's the threat of force. | ||
I mean, the threat of force is usually the go-to. | ||
Like, how do you stop corrupt leaders from being corrupt? | ||
If it's sedition, if it's treason, there's varying degrees of punishment. | ||
But I think on some level you can like it's not all doesn't only have to be punishment and I guess Ian what you might be getting at is like you can appeal I imagine in theory like you can appeal to the humanity of these people like I know like you know Lindsey Graham to me does not seem like a guy who has much humanity in him. | ||
Joe Biden I mean that hugely brazen corrupt kind of that mafia display is like is awful but like when you also listen to that clip of him. | ||
Remember when that clip of him came out of like a voicemail on Hunter's phone and he's like, son, I love you. | ||
You know, we'll get over this drug addiction or whatever. | ||
To me, that sounded like a dad who loved his son. | ||
So I think I think that's naive. | ||
It's naive to think like I can use I can I can like tap into that humanity of Joe Biden's. | ||
But I'm just saying it's there and he feels love for his son. | ||
But yeah, and maybe there is some way to tap into that. | ||
Like, I don't know if that's what you're getting at with the pardons, but... Pardons won't solve it. | ||
So... I'm just saying I hope Joe Biden wakes up one day and says, like, God, you know, I do have these grandchildren and, like, I don't want to... Biden? | ||
I don't want to blow up the war. | ||
What? | ||
I don't want to blow up the world because I want my grandchildren to live a nice life. | ||
I hope that deep down he's thinking something like that. | ||
I'm not, you know, I'm not going to bank on it, but I'm hoping it's there, that sentiment. | ||
No, I think he's more thinking, I will burn the world to the ground before I lose power. | ||
You think Biden thinks that way? | ||
I think he thinks to a certain degree that way. | ||
I don't think he's the most ruthless guy ever. | ||
He's a corrupt guy. | ||
But these people tend to have an attitude. | ||
Corrupt individuals are corrupt because their attitude is usually, the whole world will burn before I lose. | ||
I don't know if he's that strong of an asshole. | ||
But you've heard like the nobody fucks with a Biden hot mic quote from him? | ||
No, when was that? | ||
I forget. | ||
I think it might have been at the DeSantis presser he had. | ||
Do you guys really think he thinks that much at all? | ||
Well that, yeah, I mean that's another... Just because he's old now doesn't mean he did not build his life and his family off of these ideas that he will take whatever he wants. | ||
Right. | ||
This is, look, you wonder why it is almost every, every politician is a bad person. | ||
It's because good people don't have what it takes to manipulate everyone around them to gain political power. | ||
Right, that's a good point. | ||
And I do have that naive streak in me, because I gotta be honest. | ||
So before I was into politics, like during the COVID era, I barely read the news at all. | ||
And I liked Anthony Fauci. | ||
I would watch the news and I was like, you know, I kind of like this guy. | ||
I like his raspy voice. | ||
He's kind of charismatic. | ||
Disavow. | ||
And recently I read The Real Anthony Fauci by Robert F. Kennedy. | ||
And it was mind-blowing to see. | ||
When you learn about everything, In that book, from the whole, like, AIDS pandemic and how, like, the chemo drug that they were prescribing was basically causing AIDS or making it way worse. | ||
AZT. | ||
AZT, and him experimenting on orphans, like, killing hundreds of orphaned children and debilitating many more. | ||
When you realize that that guy can go on TV and, like, smooth talk the entire world, smooth talk, like, it's kind of what Tim is saying, and it's like, Jesus, like, that's a level of, like, psychopath that I can't even imagine. | ||
Indeed. | ||
Must you think like a psychopath to defeat the psychopath? | ||
One thing that I want to say is you talk a lot about forgiveness and stuff like that, and I am so, like I said earlier, I'm so black-pilled about even being able to communicate with people. | ||
It's such and I maybe it just struck me that like you're you're still looking for ways to find to expect good behavior from people or to offer people the option of behaving well and I just don't think that they're gonna. | ||
Yeah, you know, I'm obsessed, not really obsessed, Ben Franklin is a big inspiration, and that guy always had like a twinkle in his eye and kind of a knowing smile, like we already won. | ||
So he was like a diplomat to the enemy. | ||
unidentified
|
Ben Franklin did? | |
Yeah, Ben, he knew the whole time. | ||
He was like the father of the rebellion, the father of the United States, essentially. | ||
Everyone looked up to him, he was this old dude. | ||
How do you know he had a twinkle in his eye? | ||
Do people write that down? | ||
In the pictures I've seen of him, and I think, maybe they do? | ||
The paintings? | ||
Yeah, the paintings and the stuff. | ||
He's so jovial, and he's an inventor, he's brilliant, and like, He knew. | ||
His morale was so high. | ||
I think he just instilled the morale of a nation with his books and his communication style. | ||
So hopefully, people can do that. | ||
We gotta jump to this story. | ||
We got this Twitter thread from Gonzalo Lira. | ||
This is the guy who was arrested in Ukraine, who has just recently gotten out, and is tweeting that he is seeking to flee the country. | ||
He says he was being tortured in jail when he was arrested. | ||
So, correct me if I'm wrong, you know a lot about this, Liam. | ||
He's an American citizen? | ||
Correct. | ||
He's an American citizen. | ||
Coach Redpill, right? | ||
Coach Redpill, yeah, yeah. | ||
And Serge, if you bring up my pinned tweet, it's me asking the State Department about him in, I think it was, maybe like a month ago, or a couple months ago now. | ||
Um, and yeah, I mean, so that was when I was at the Epoch Times. | ||
Um, it didn't, the question didn't go over so smoothly at the Epoch Times. | ||
I don't know, I don't know if I can get into that too much. | ||
Well, let's go through this guy's Twitter thread. | ||
He tweets, right now I'm about to, um, I'm about to try to get out of Ukraine and seek political asylum in Hungary. | ||
And I will also add, this was from 6 23 p.m. | ||
It's currently 9 24 p.m. | ||
Eastern. | ||
I'll check his Twitter to see if he successfully crossed. | ||
He goes on to describe what happened to him, he says he broke no laws, he was accused of breaking no laws, he was just reporting on what was going on in Ukraine and it made Ukraine look bad, so they arrested him. | ||
He says, my indictment explicitly states that all I did was discuss publicly known facts about the war, the epitome of free speech and a democracy, but Zelensky's Ukraine is no democracy, it's a thieving, corrupt, murderous, gangster regime pretending to be polite Western democracy. | ||
He's right about that, and that's obvious because Ukraine has always been that, since the fall of the Soviet Union. | ||
Once arrested, I was given documentation assuring me that I was guaranteed the right to contact my lawyers and loved ones. | ||
In fact, I was blocked from calling anyone, even my lawyers, and I was not permitted to post bail. | ||
He goes on to describe that he was tortured, and, uh, let me, let me, uh, once inside Caesar Prison, I was tortured in the two of the four cells I was in by the other prisoners. | ||
Guards never beat prisoners, they outsource the torture. | ||
One prisoner actually apologized to me, telling me he had no choice. | ||
He wasn't lying, I understood. | ||
I got a cracked rib in my first cell, but it wasn't too bad. | ||
The worst stretch is my fourth cell. | ||
He was gonna say that he was beaten for over 30 hours and sleep deprived. | ||
The craziest thing about this, and this is pretty brutal, so you've been warned. | ||
He says, at one point, two thugs held my head and used a toothpick to scratch the whites of my left eye while asking me if I could still read if I had just one. | ||
Not gonna lie, that was unnerving. | ||
He goes on to say, the U.S. | ||
Embassy called me three times but gave me nothing but support, in quotes, empty bromides. | ||
The guard told me to remove my shirt. | ||
He had injury and bruising to his chest after being beaten. | ||
Let's scroll down. | ||
He goes on to mention that they found out he had money, he wasn't poor, and they extorted about $70,000 out of him, and he's lost about $100,000. | ||
He says the conditions of his bail were that he has to wear an ankle monitor, surrender his passports, and not leave the city of Kharkov, much less the country. | ||
However, after posting bail, he didn't get an ankle monitor, and they returned his passports. | ||
He was going to say that he was told by one guy, they were telling you to leave. | ||
And then he says he doesn't know, so he decided he will die trying. | ||
He rode his motorcycle across Ukraine 1,400 kilometers in two days. | ||
He said, I'm going to Hungary to ask for political asylum. | ||
When I fail to show up in court in Kharkov, an arrest warrant will be issued, likely an international warrant. | ||
No doubt other EU countries will comply like sheep, returning me to serve 5-8 years in | ||
a prison labor camp. | ||
Regardless of the fact that Kiev arrested and imprisoned me for YouTube videos, for | ||
free speech. | ||
What happened to European democratic values? | ||
Well, I'll tell you, Gonzalo. | ||
Freedom, liberty, and the Constitution, whatever you think you have, mean NOTHING in warfare. | ||
They can tell you these things, but it's only when you're in a safe and secure state will they allow it. | ||
He says, I'm posting this thread just as I'm getting to the border checkpoint. | ||
I'm also posting videos on the two channels I have access to, The Roundtable and Gonzalo Lira again. | ||
If you don't hear from me in the next 12 hours, well, I'm on my way to a labor camp. | ||
Wish me luck. | ||
I'll pull up his account right now and see if there's any updates. | ||
I believe that was the last he posted. | ||
Maybe he has some replies. | ||
And we don't know if he made it. | ||
That was three hours ago. | ||
So this is a crazy story. | ||
This is insane. | ||
And so this guy, a little bit more about him, he was born in California. | ||
He's a U.S. | ||
citizen. | ||
He's like a dual citizenship in Chilean, and a lot of people use that to discredit him, but he was born in the U.S. | ||
He is a U.S. | ||
citizen. | ||
He was in the past like a contributor for Business Insider, Zero Hedge. | ||
I've talked to some people like who I trust, and they kind of have like a bad opinion of him. | ||
They're like, oh, he's kind of a wacko. | ||
But at the end of the day, he was He is a U.S. | ||
citizen, and all he was doing, that is correct when he says that, all he was doing was making YouTube videos. | ||
Criticizing the U.S.-NATO support for the Ukraine war, criticizing Zelensky. | ||
And so I asked the State Department about this a couple months ago, and Matthew Miller, the spokesman, was just like, yeah, you know, we're aware, this was when he was still in jail, he's like, yeah, we're aware that he's in jail, we support free speech, and I'm just gonna leave it at that. | ||
And I was like, Well, are you working to get him released? | ||
And he's like, I'm just gonna leave it at that. | ||
And so clearly it sounds like Gonzalo... They probably had him arrested. | ||
Well, yeah, they might have given the order to get him arrested, but it sounds like he escaped prison, right? | ||
If I'm reading that right. | ||
No, he was released. | ||
And they gave him back his passport. | ||
Oh, really? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Oh. | ||
They released him, gave him his passport, and said, don't leave. | ||
However, he was supposed to have an ankle monitor. | ||
And no passport. | ||
Oh, I see. | ||
And no passport. | ||
I see, I see, okay. | ||
So, what he tweeted, which is what we were just reading, is that someone told him, yo, they're telling you to leave. | ||
But it could be a setup. | ||
Like he said, he leaves, he takes us, and he says, I'm getting out of here before, and that's what they used to get him. | ||
Yeah. | ||
But what do you do other than that? | ||
Well, this is wild, and like, I'm excited to kind of ask the government about this now, because like, this could change... I don't know, it's an interesting story. | ||
Like, it's going to be interesting to see how, like, our government reacts to this. | ||
Because, like, are they going to acknowledge, like, are they going to even acknowledge this story? | ||
Because inherent to it is the fact that they've been letting this U.S. | ||
citizen rot in prison for a couple months, you know? | ||
They're going to ignore it. | ||
Well, yeah, exactly, and I hope that I can ask them about it, and see what they say, but it's, you know... | ||
Yeah, it's just crazy. | ||
I mean, he had the wrong views, and so we allowed, or even maybe directed, our ally to imprison him for speech. | ||
It's insane. | ||
I remember when he was making those videos, I was like, in my gut, I thought, what is he doing? | ||
He's in a war-torn, he's in a country that's at war right now, and he's talking crap about his own gun. | ||
Like, that doesn't go well for citizens if you're in a war. | ||
Yeah, right. | ||
But the U.S. | ||
should still stand up for their principles. | ||
Free speech. | ||
I agree with you. | ||
I asked Thomas Massey this question. | ||
It was not recorded, but he basically said the same thing. | ||
He was like, well, what was he doing over there in Ukraine? | ||
But it's like, he lived there. | ||
He lived there before the war started. | ||
He wasn't only reporting. | ||
He lived there. | ||
So that was his home. | ||
What's like the set? | ||
Like, if an American goes to another country and becomes a citizen, have they not just forgiven all their American rights? | ||
They no longer have American rights. | ||
No, he's still a citizen. | ||
They now have the new country's rights. | ||
He's not a citizen. | ||
He's a resident. | ||
Yeah, he's a citizen of the U.S., a resident of Ukraine. | ||
But his U.S. | ||
citizen rights don't apply to other countries. | ||
Like, you can't make me give you Chinese rights just because you're a Chinese citizen. | ||
But go... I mean, listen to the Biden administration, listen to the State Department. | ||
Whenever there's a U.S. | ||
citizen who... I mean, Brittany... Brittany Greiner. | ||
Like, remember when she was detained in Russia? | ||
It was like, all we could talk about is, like, release him. | ||
And then... They traded the merchant to Wall Street. | ||
Yeah, and then the Wall Street journalist, the Wall Street Journal journalist who was also in prison in Russia, I don't know if he's still there, but it's like those things we can't stop talking about it because it's our adversaries imprisoning our citizens. | ||
This is our ally who we have a ton of leverage over imprisoning our citizens. | ||
Which says to me the likely scenario is the Biden administration ordered his arrest. | ||
Potentially. | ||
Potentially. | ||
I asked a bunch of people in Congress about this. | ||
None of- zero. | ||
Zero out of maybe, like, 25. | ||
I would just- I would go, um, in the halls of Congress and outside. | ||
Zero out of 25 even knew he was in jail. | ||
How plausible does anybody- does everybody here think it is that the U.S. | ||
government ordered him to be arrested? | ||
How plausible? | ||
On a scale of 0 to 100, I'm gonna go ahead and say 100. | ||
100% plausibility. | ||
I'm not saying it's definitively true. | ||
Well, so what I would say is, like, at a minimum, they probably gave the okay. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
Like, Ukraine's not just gonna arrest an American citizen, so they probably, at one point, had the U.S. | ||
order to arrest him, and then Biden said, yeah, sure. | ||
You wanna know why I think the U.S. | ||
ordered it? | ||
Because Barack Obama killed a 16-year-old American citizen, and that wasn't the only American citizen he killed. | ||
So when you can state, definitively, that Barack Obama Murdered a 16 year old American citizen in a drone strike in Yemen, then I'm like, yeah, arresting a guy is like nowhere near that bad. | ||
I would say it is plausible 100% that Biden could have ordered that guy's arrest, but I see zero evidence that he did, so I'm not gonna assume anything. | ||
Yeah, exactly. | ||
Likely, I think. | ||
No, I am. | ||
I'm going to assume the U.S. | ||
was involved because they wouldn't get him out. | ||
They wouldn't talk about it. | ||
They ignored it. | ||
Yeah, we're too closely, tightly knit with that country for the U.S. | ||
not to be involved. | ||
Well, I agree they were involved. | ||
Yeah, I'm sure it was discussed. | ||
I'm sure they went and they said, hey, you know, Biden administration, we got this guy. | ||
He's an American. | ||
What should we do? | ||
And they'll lock him up. | ||
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
Don't care. | ||
Probably because Biden probably doesn't care if people are talking crap about the Ukraine. | ||
It's Biden. | ||
He's checked out. | ||
But Zelensky is obsessively shutting down radio stations and TV stations. | ||
He shut down two of their biggest three TV stations. | ||
Yeah, he was doing that before the war as well. | ||
He was sanctioning political opponents as well as media outlets that would criticize him. | ||
This was before the war. | ||
So yet another reason it's like, why are we propping up this regime? | ||
Was he doing that censorship with pressure from the West? | ||
Um, I don't- wha- I don't know, but he was doing it. | ||
Yeah, I don't know where the pressure came from, but, um... | ||
Yeah, so I, you know, he does have a history of, like, not being a super democratic pro-freedom guy. | ||
And, um, yeah, this story in general is insane. | ||
I mean, I hope, uh, I hope Lyra, I wish him luck, and I hope this also injects into, like, the public conversation of, like, wow, the U.S. | ||
just, like, let this guy rot there, and, like, I hope it opens up a conversation about, like, you know, that we're not really on the side of freedom and democracy in this war. | ||
Alright everybody, we're going to go to Super Chats! | ||
So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends if you really do like it, it really does help, and head over to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member at TimCast.com to watch the members-only uncensored show coming up in about a half an hour. | ||
But for the time being, we will read your Super Chats. | ||
Sean says, American Flags, number two song in the country, Tom McDonald and Adam Calhoun make it number one. | ||
Absolutely. | ||
Go to iTunes, go to wherever you buy music, Amazon perhaps, and buy American Flags by Tom McDonald. | ||
And let's build some culture. | ||
Tom does a really great job. | ||
Raymond G. Stanley Jr. | ||
says, Tim, I got too caught up in our recent streak of cultural winnings that I nearly forgot when it comes to our political leaders. | ||
All we have are the hand-sitting-on, strong-worded, yes, hand-sitting-on, strong-worded letter Republicans. | ||
But the good news is the Republicans are sending more strongly worded letters. | ||
I was getting worried for a minute. | ||
Rand Paul sent two so far. | ||
Hope they give him a chance to read the old ones first. | ||
Oh yeah, yeah. | ||
Brandon Hampson says, Ian is slowly turning into ripped Jesus. | ||
Dude, I look good in the mirror. | ||
I look good. | ||
So on the strongly worded letters thing, it's like, what do people want them to do? | ||
Impeach Merrick Garland. | ||
They have the house. | ||
With just the house you can impeach Merrick Garland? | ||
Yes. | ||
Oh, okay. | ||
Conviction is something different. | ||
Okay, that's a good suggestion. | ||
So impeachment, and then, you know. | ||
But at the very least, we're saying, just try. | ||
Instead, they're like, oh, you know, what are we gonna do? | ||
What they're probably doing is they're going to Democrats and saying, look, they want us to vote to impeach Biden, but I'll tell you what, I'll vote no if you agree with my funding for Insert X Project. | ||
Right. | ||
Then they go, you got it. | ||
That's it. | ||
Welcome to Congress. | ||
Cody Justin Fanon says nothing will happen. | ||
Biden will get a strongly worded letter. | ||
Congress is weak, corrupt, and lazy. | ||
I wish we had political leaders that stood for anything. | ||
I agree. | ||
I agree. | ||
I'm not even convinced Donald Trump is the passionate leader who stands against most of this. | ||
I think, for the most part, Trump had an agenda he wanted to enact that he believed in. | ||
But I don't think Trump's first term was him being like, we've got to purge the deep state and go after these people. | ||
He certainly said drain the swamp. | ||
But I don't think he actually passionately believed it because he kept a lot of these awful people in. | ||
I don't even believe that Trump cares about it so much today. | ||
I think Trump wants revenge today. | ||
Big difference. | ||
Has there ever been a leader that got in and was like, I'm going to do everything for you guys, all the people, the people. | ||
Then they get into power and they're like, yes, everything the people want. | ||
And then it's exactly what they wanted. | ||
Like all of them. | ||
To be fair, Trump tried really hard to keep his promises. | ||
But what I'm saying is, Trump had an agenda he thought was good. | ||
Not everybody liked it. | ||
He got an office, he tried to enact that agenda. | ||
He did say he wanted to drain the swamp. | ||
He did, to some degree, but he brought in a bunch of bad people that were your typical established Republicans, but then still tried to enact his agenda. | ||
Oh, poor him. | ||
If only he just fired everybody from the get-go and he should have done it. | ||
But I remember at the time, they were like, they'll impeach him if he does. | ||
Yeah, how did that work out? | ||
He got impeached twice anyway. | ||
They impeached him when he wasn't even president anymore. | ||
Matt H says, Ian, you're supposed to weigh yourself after you take a dump in the morning. | ||
That's how you measure approximate muscle gains. | ||
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. | ||
There you go. | ||
Troy B says, anyone else excited to see Tucker on Twitter? | ||
Change to Tucker on X. That was a good one. | ||
Yep, yep. | ||
Mac Anne says, the UFO story is very old, Tim. | ||
Not really a distraction, but more of a convenient time to bring it up. | ||
Happened in the 80s. | ||
Have a good night, guys. | ||
It's a story that was written and published today, but I believe you are correct, it's about an old story. | ||
unidentified
|
What's that? | |
What's that in reference to? | ||
The story that UFO almost started World War III. | ||
But I think that's a different story, actually. | ||
I think the other story was that all the nukes were disabled by UFOs. | ||
And now, apparently, there's a story where a UFO almost started World War III or something like that. | ||
WeAreChange says, Ian needs to take the chill pill Ashwagandha. | ||
unidentified
|
Oh yeah. | |
It helps boost natural testosterone and helps with stress while working out. | ||
Luke Rudkowski, ladies and gentlemen, WeAreChange. | ||
What is that take the chill pill thing? | ||
That's Luke's Ashwagandha brand? | ||
Ashwagandha. | ||
This is something... You take the chill pill? | ||
I've taken it before at Luke's suggestion and it is fantastic. | ||
It's nice. | ||
It's good. | ||
But does it have that issue you mentioned of, like, needing to keep replenishing your testosterone? | ||
I don't think so. | ||
It's more like a supplement. | ||
I take ashwagandha as well. | ||
How did Luke actually get takethechillpill.com? | ||
No, no, no. | ||
It just relaxes you. | ||
It allows you to calm down. | ||
And that's overall generative of testosterone. | ||
Take the chill pill? | ||
Take the chill pill. | ||
Yeah, that's Luke's personal one. | ||
How did no one have that domain? | ||
Dude, go to takethechillpill.com. | ||
Take the chill pill. | ||
What's it made of? | ||
Oh, you're selling ashwagandha. | ||
Nice work there. | ||
Probably a bunch of like seed oils and stuff. | ||
That's the chill pill. | ||
Alright, let's read some more. | ||
We got Steve McGee. | ||
He says, I'm here for watching Ian gain some lean mass. | ||
Hearing 129 was pretty shocking. | ||
Is Ian Crosland the new Trad Daddy? | ||
11 inches a round. | ||
Think about it. | ||
Trad Dad. | ||
Dude, it was so weird to gain 10 pounds in two days. | ||
I've weighed 140 in the past, so it's not that weird. | ||
That is very, very underweight, I'm pretty sure. | ||
It's so amazing. | ||
Have you checked your BMI? | ||
No, soon. | ||
Next time I go to the gym, we're going to do fat and muscle. | ||
To be fair, BMI is like a lot of nonsense. | ||
Dude, my BMI was 7.5% when I went in the first time. | ||
That's not what BMI is. | ||
BMI is a number. | ||
What's your body fat percentage? | ||
It's supposed to be like a 10. | ||
Between 8 and 12, I was 7. | ||
Uh, 23 or something, 22. | ||
You are not 23. | ||
You're probably like 15. | ||
Been a while. | ||
I think I got it measured at the doctor as well. | ||
So, if you work out, if you lift, or if you're an athlete, your BMI is always super high, so it's kind of nonsense, you know? | ||
But for you, you're probably way underweight, if you check. | ||
Just do it right now. | ||
It takes five seconds. | ||
Let's grab some more! | ||
Ryan Sargent says, on a scale of 1 to 10, what would you rate the chances of the U.S. | ||
going into a depression? | ||
10 being definite. | ||
P.S. | ||
my wife and I love Rise with Roberto Jr. | ||
It is one of the best coffees I've ever had. | ||
That's over at castbrew.com. | ||
But I do think Appalachian Nights is the best coffee I've ever had. | ||
It's easy for me to say, I'm the one who formulated it. | ||
So surprise, I chose what was most delicious to me, and now I think it's the most delicious thing ever. | ||
But I really do recommend it. | ||
Scale 1 to 10 for depression? | ||
It's tough, because there's a lot of indicators suggesting things actually aren't going to get that bad in the short term. | ||
It's weird things going on. | ||
But then I would also add, the weird things might suggest weird things. | ||
You know. | ||
I can't speak too much. | ||
I'm not an economic guy. | ||
I was just watching... Who was I watching? | ||
What's his name? | ||
Anthony Pompliano? | ||
Is that his name? | ||
That's his name, yeah. | ||
Yeah, I was watching one of his videos. | ||
He explained a lot of this stuff. | ||
Maybe I'm getting some of it wrong, but I recommend checking out his stuff. | ||
And I can tell you that when I checked out Max Keiser's A Big Finance Guy, all he did was scream, buy Bitcoin over and over again, and then I regretted not taking his word for it. | ||
Yep. | ||
The crypto makes it so it seems like a full-on depression is less likely, but I think you're going to see a wage gap increase, where you'll see some poor people get poorer. | ||
Already have. | ||
Yeah, I know, with the amount of homelessness that's struck the last two years. | ||
So there's a depression for some, you know. | ||
Apparently Ganzo Lira also posted on YouTube. | ||
Yeah, that's what it says on that. | ||
Let me, uh, pull this up. | ||
Part of me was like, why is he posting, but at the same time, like, what in the hell could anyone in that situation do at this point? | ||
I imagine- Oh, I would- I mean, it's very smart to record your journey and get people- Yeah, exactly. | ||
Yeah, exactly. | ||
That's the last thing he would do. | ||
Just for his own safety, just post something. | ||
That's very smart. | ||
The last thing he posted was two hours ago saying he was about to cross the border. | ||
Hell yeah. | ||
He should've live-streamed it. | ||
He should've, like, Twitch-streamed it. | ||
So we could see what they did to him. | ||
Should we advocate to bring him to the U.S. | ||
and let him stay here? | ||
He's an American citizen! | ||
That's what I mean! | ||
If he can get on a flight, he's here. | ||
He'll be safe. | ||
Yeah. | ||
But then again, if Ukraine indicts him, the U.S. | ||
is gonna send him back. | ||
That's what I'm wondering. | ||
Oh, my BMI, I have the number. | ||
I was 18.5, now I'm 19.8. | ||
Oh, okay. | ||
That's not bad. | ||
Really? | ||
At 140? | ||
That seems really low. | ||
I had a super low. | ||
I mean, I feel like it should be lower. | ||
Yeah, I remember I went to the doctor. | ||
I was the lowest number at the normal weight, which is 18.5. | ||
All gains from here on up. | ||
Just go to the bathroom when you gotta go to the bathroom. | ||
Sleep when you gotta sleep. | ||
And eat twice as much as you think you need. | ||
Are you going to continue this pace, though, of, what is it, 12 pounds per week forever? | ||
I think I would be happy at 170, and then just rip muscle, just shredded for movies. | ||
I don't want to get too big. | ||
But then I'll keep it stable after that. | ||
So I don't know if it means you keep working out every day. | ||
Okay, so you're okay right now, normal weight. | ||
You're on the low end. | ||
But you were underweight before. | ||
Yeah, 129. | ||
Ghandi. | ||
unidentified
|
Yeah, that's like amazing. | |
Actually, even at your lowest, apparently you were just at the bottom end of normal weight. | ||
unidentified
|
127. | |
Luke says... 127's underweight. | ||
Luke says, Ian hitting the gym. | ||
Let's go. | ||
Let's go, Ian. | ||
Dude, Luke, you gotta get out here, man. | ||
You're gonna love it. | ||
Real quick on the depression thing. | ||
You're shredded, brother. | ||
Real quick on the depression thing. | ||
So definition of depression is three or more years of sustained decline in the real GDP at at least 10% in one given year. | ||
So I mean, is that possible? | ||
Potentially. | ||
I mean, that would just be very devastating. | ||
I disagree with you. | ||
I don't see how crypto in any way prevents What do you mean fake coin? | ||
GDP if anything it's taking money away from GDP because you're just like putting it into these | ||
computers that Solve math problems and give people a fake coin. I think I | ||
see a lot of benefits. What do you mean fake coin? | ||
Well, I just mean it's a it's a coin that isn't backed by anything | ||
But it is it's you know, it's the immutable ledger, but it is well, especially depending on which coin you're talking | ||
about Some are backed by U.S. | ||
dollars. | ||
This is the thing with crypto. | ||
If it's backed by an asset, then you are now relying on a third party to honor that commitment. | ||
You mean like buying silver on exchange and having it stored there? | ||
Yes, but also you can buy silver and keep it at your house. | ||
And you can cold storage crypto. | ||
Yeah, you can cold storage crypto. | ||
I'm just saying if it's backed by a US dollar, if it's backed by an asset, then you're relying on someone to actually give it to you. | ||
One of the cryptos I do like is Monero. | ||
That one is like... I don't even own it, but it's like... | ||
All the transactions are obfuscated, so they're all washed, so the government can't track you. | ||
And I think there's some utility to that. | ||
If we did slip into some sort of authoritarian world where your transactions are being monitored and stuff, and you want to use something like Monero, I don't think it helps GDP. | ||
I don't know if we can go into a depression. | ||
But I do love Peter Schiff. | ||
Check him out. | ||
He's great. | ||
He came down to occupy Wall Street. | ||
He would probably agree with that. | ||
I think he thinks... His whole thing is he thinks we're getting a depression and inflation and it's gonna be frickin' bad. | ||
Yeah, because we're in stagflation right now as well. | ||
Alright, let's read some more. | ||
Which is a never-happens-in-an-era, and we're already in this. | ||
We've had so many never-happened things. | ||
That's what a lot of economists say. | ||
They know what's gonna happen, they're... There's no way. | ||
No one knows. | ||
Alright, we got Kato Asta says, An expansion of the idea of the truck company segment earlier. | ||
Just for a quick reference, Yellow Trucks is shutting down. | ||
30,000 jobs about to be nuked. | ||
Jeez. | ||
22,000 Teamsters, UPS was found by its union to have made $52 billion in profit in the past five years, and UPS is now giving about $7 raise to all drivers, made me thought, think, why do we demand more in pay instead of demand company drop prices? | ||
Well, the staff, they want, the people who work there want to get a bigger cut of what they're producing, that I get. | ||
The issue with Yellow Truck is that the company was collapsing, and the union was making demands, and then the company just outright collapsed, and now nobody has a job. | ||
So the point I was making is that it's really funny when it comes to the left's arguments. | ||
They're like, the people who are producing the product deserve a share of the wages. | ||
And I'm just like, you are correct. | ||
And then when the company's facing debt, do we take that money back and they got to pay into the company to cover the debts? | ||
No. | ||
So they only get they get they get profit when the going's good. | ||
But when the going's bad, it's everything on the on the business. | ||
That doesn't make sense, does it? | ||
Alright, how about this? | ||
Like, here's my negotiation. | ||
Everybody gets a percentage, and then when the company falls on hard times, you have to pay to reinvest back into the company. | ||
Yeah, no one's gonna want to do that. | ||
Alright, we'll grab some more. | ||
Jacob says, listen to Tom McDonald and Adam Calhoun's new song, American Flags. | ||
unidentified
|
Indeed. | |
You should. | ||
We'll grab some more Super Chats here. | ||
SH22 says the reason why the USD keeping its strength up is because of geopolitical economic interdependence. | ||
Keeps people on our side if they have a vested interest in the U.S. | ||
That's right. | ||
The reason why the U.S. | ||
is giving money for gender studies in Pakistan is because if people have the money, they want to use the money. | ||
So the U.S. | ||
is like, we will bolster confidence in our money by giving our money away. | ||
There you go. | ||
It really does work that way. | ||
Pinochet's Helicopter Tour says, Tim, that makes no sense. | ||
Why would the CIA, to avoid communist China becoming strong, prefer the globalist communists at the WEF? | ||
CIA is bad, MK. | ||
I can explain that to you very simply! | ||
You see, the World Economic Forum, people in the CIA, Democrats, the deep state, they took a look at China and said, their system is so much better than our system because they can spin on a dime. | ||
We want that. | ||
We just don't want them to be in control. | ||
They want all of this live in the pot and eat the bugs. | ||
They just want to be the ones running it. | ||
It's that simple. | ||
They don't believe in the American dream and American values, they believe in power. | ||
I see it a little different. | ||
I see three factions on earth. | ||
The communist faction, the economic faction, and the liberty faction. | ||
You could say that the CIA has been co-opted and that it's not quite functioning as a liberty faction right now, but this liberal economic order faction. | ||
unidentified
|
Not quite? | |
When were they ever? | ||
Yeah, really. | ||
1949, hopefully. | ||
unidentified
|
No. | |
1942 or 43. | ||
No, it was always the power. | ||
I don't think Allen Dulles was ever about liberty. | ||
Well, then the Spanish-American War, 1898. | ||
They legit liberated Cuba and just let Cuba become a free country. | ||
But the CIA didn't exist in 1898. | ||
No, no, no. | ||
That's the liberal ethos that I'm looking for. | ||
Oh, okay. | ||
Sustaining the Monroe Doctrine. | ||
So I think that there's multiple factions. | ||
I don't think the CIA necessarily wants the World Economic Forum to take over either, but they're blind with their pants down, like, how do we stop technocratic revolution? | ||
So I think their ears are open. | ||
All right, Cipriano Diaz says, Hi Tim, my cat is having surgery tomorrow. | ||
Broken tooth, fractured paw and jaw. | ||
Oh no. | ||
Everyone, please pray everything goes well. | ||
Ian, please send some healing energy for quick recovery. | ||
Love you all. | ||
Love you. | ||
I hope everything goes well. | ||
I gotta give you that rock. | ||
Luke charged it in the ocean for you. | ||
unidentified
|
Oh, let's do it. | |
We gotta grab it. | ||
Ceremoniously. | ||
Yeah. | ||
He walked into the ocean with this crystal. | ||
And he wanted to make sure you knew that he charged it for you. | ||
Excellent. | ||
I have no idea what that means, but he put it in water, so... Yeah, he put his Reiki into it. | ||
His electromagnetic field vibrated the subatomic spin within. | ||
He put it in the ocean. | ||
unidentified
|
Ooh. | |
And then he said it's charged now. | ||
The ocean charged it. | ||
Oh, maybe those are free radicals. | ||
Is it ionization from the salt water? | ||
Does it lose charge? | ||
Do you gotta, like, bring it back to the waters of Tijuana? | ||
Um, yeah, I think so. | ||
It could lose charge, but some structures are so great at holding charge, like crystals. | ||
Group B says, went and saw Sound of Freedom yesterday morning for first showing at 1040 and it was packed. | ||
I re-watched the Tim Ballard episode. | ||
Dude, what a story. | ||
That is actually, I would recommend that. | ||
If you go see Sound of Freedom, go re-watch the episode of IRL we did with Tim Ballard as like a director's commentary almost. | ||
Or go see the movie again, then go watch the episode we did with Tim Ballard again. | ||
So you can get a breakdown and it's fresh in your mind. | ||
And what did they break, like 150 million? | ||
Probably something like that. | ||
At this point, no. | ||
Let me pull up... Have you seen it? | ||
Sound of Freedom? | ||
No, I haven't seen it yet. | ||
It's awesome. | ||
I'm planning to. | ||
Yeah, man. | ||
Jim Caviezel's 49 million. | ||
Wow. | ||
Jim Caviezel's got, like, this silent pain. | ||
The man is amazing. | ||
I still haven't seen The Passion of the Christ yet. | ||
Well, so, what I thought was funny about Sound of Freedom is, like, when the mainstream media bashed it as QAnon, everyone who liked the movie kind of jumped to its defense and was like, no, no, no, it doesn't even talk about the government! | ||
And that's when I was like, well, okay, I'm not as interested now. | ||
I do realize it's, like, super fucked up what's going on, but, like, And I think a lot of Pizzagate was bullshit, but there was a lot of weird factual things in Pizzagate that raised red flags about John Podesta and stuff. | ||
And then obviously Epstein is a proven case of basically government-sanctioned pedophilia. | ||
I wish the mainstream media was right, and it did actually get into some government pedophilia. | ||
unidentified
|
You should watch The Passion. | |
Yeah, I watched it recently for the first time. | ||
I'd never seen it, and, uh, it's good. | ||
It is. | ||
It's not, uh, it's, it's, I don't actually see it as overtly religious. | ||
It's very political. | ||
Is it just Caviezel screaming in agony for, like, two hours? | ||
Not really. | ||
unidentified
|
Okay, good. | |
I think that's exaggerated. | ||
I mean, it's merciless and graphic. | ||
I like the politics. | ||
Jesus Christ Superstar, the musical, also good politics. | ||
It's a lot of politics. | ||
I remember strongly the scene with Pontius and he's talking to the crowd and all of these things. | ||
Very political. | ||
I thought it was very, very interesting. | ||
Does it show Judas from a somewhat sympathetic light? | ||
In Jesus Christ Superstar, the story is from Judas' perspective and he's watching his friends slowly lose it. | ||
It's an opinion. | ||
He's like, Jesus, when we started, it was about the message. | ||
Now it's about your name. | ||
They're screaming your name. | ||
They don't care what you're saying anymore. | ||
This has got to stop. | ||
And Jesus is like, Gah! | ||
He's losing his mind. | ||
It's an awesome musical. | ||
They show throwing the silver to Judas, and it, like, spills on the ground. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Wild. | ||
And then he, like, throws it back later, and he's like, I don't know. | ||
You should watch it. | ||
It's interesting. | ||
All right. | ||
We'll grab some more Super Chats over here. | ||
Let's see. | ||
Eric Miller says, Tim, about yellow trucking, it is rumored that Amazon and Home Depot were going to buy them because they have accounts with them and it's cheaper now. | ||
unidentified
|
Hmm. | |
Interesting. | ||
Robert Fox says, I don't normally get to watch this live, but let me cook. | ||
I want a Roberto Jr. | ||
shirt that says, flock around and find out. | ||
Keep doing the great work. | ||
Cluck around and find out. | ||
Oh yeah, let's do it. | ||
Cluck around and find out. | ||
I get flock around and find out. | ||
I don't know, maybe that one's better. | ||
We're going to be doing Roberto Jr. | ||
Pro Model Skateboards. | ||
Oh, sweet. | ||
I don't get a pro model skateboard. | ||
I posted a skate video today on Instagram. | ||
I like that, because it showed a blooper. | ||
That was cool. | ||
unidentified
|
It was still impressive. | |
The blooper made it better, because I saw the struggle. | ||
It's not so much a blooper. | ||
It's that day I did a hang 10 hard flip, light flip, stuck it, and then fell, and that was the best it was going to be. | ||
That was awesome. | ||
And then I did a different trick, which is very, very similar, which is an endo flip. | ||
Oh, I thought it was the same trick. | ||
Two different tricks. | ||
Two different tricks, very, very similar. | ||
So the first trick is called a hang ten hard flip, late flip. | ||
The board flips around, then right before catching it, when it's upright, I hit it again so it flips one more time. | ||
On the grip tape. | ||
On the grip tape. | ||
The second trick is a hang ten endo flip where the board flips end over end and then halfway around I hit it on its underside while it's upside down causing it to flip one and a half times and then I land on it. | ||
Different trick. | ||
Looks similar. | ||
I'm not a skater, but it did look cool, I gotta say that. | ||
Roberto Jr. | ||
pro model. | ||
unidentified
|
That's sweet. | |
Do you know what sizes he's gonna have? | ||
Like A5? | ||
Roberto Jr.' 's probably gonna be A5. | ||
Because that's the board I'm gonna ride. | ||
The Roberto Jr. | ||
model. | ||
Yeah, he's a superstar over here, man. | ||
All the ladies love him. | ||
All the chicken ladies. | ||
They love him. | ||
But Lil' Luke's been going at it lately. | ||
Lil' Luke the rooster, his feet are all messed up. | ||
unidentified
|
Oh yeah? | |
Malnourishment. | ||
Something happened when he was a baby, which is like earlier this year, and so his feet are kind of messed up. | ||
But it's okay, because apparently he's had no trouble, you know, getting it on with the ladies. | ||
Well, that's good. | ||
Are you gonna have a single bull to get the ladies, uh... Typically we just have the... We... For a while it was Roberto and Roberto Jr., and then Roberto, you know, he had to be... He retired. | ||
He was actually imprisoned for sexual assault. | ||
Yeah, he was hurting one of the hens pretty bad. | ||
And now Roberto- You guys put him in prison? | ||
It was culture shock, yeah. | ||
He had to get put in a separate little pen because he was hurting the hens. | ||
unidentified
|
Oh, wow. | |
And then Roberto- Now he's over at the, uh, cock town. | ||
Over at Ferdinand's town. | ||
Um, but, uh, Roberto Jr., now, his spurs are really big and he's starting to hurt the ladies pretty bad, so... He's taking after his father. | ||
Well, it just happens when the roosters get older, and a lot of people are like, cut the spurs, and I'm like, ah, but that's mean, like it hurts them, and we don't want to do that, but maybe we just got Roberto Jr. | ||
is going to have to go to finer pastures. | ||
I think what we're going to do, though, and this is a big announcement, we're going to auction off a bunch of the chickens. | ||
They have a chicken auction periodically out here, and so we've got too many, and they keep making more of themselves, so we have to do something about that. | ||
So we're probably going to take, you know, a good portion, maybe half of the current batch, and then auction them. | ||
So I think the people locally out here will be really excited and then we'll get like little placards with their names and we'll like sign it like official cast, you know, uh, cast castle chicken city chickens, but then we'll keep the original chickens. | ||
Those are our, those are our friends. | ||
You know, we, we, we like them like Margaret and Roberto jr. | ||
Margaret's very ravenous. | ||
Let's grab some more super chats from our friends here. | ||
Toose Nalorum says, you are all talking about Russian prisons, but in Ameri- We weren't talking about Russian prisons, we were talking about Ukraine. | ||
But in American prisons people get raped to the point it's a joke in most media and pop culture. | ||
Think about it, the worst crime in existence, even murder is more merciful, happens in American prisons as standard fare if you cross a warden by refusing to be, uh, literal slave labor. | ||
Yes, the U.S. | ||
prison system is horrifying and completely broken, I agree. | ||
But we weren't talking about Russian prisons. | ||
I don't think we said anything about Russia. | ||
No, we were talking about Ukraine. | ||
Yeah, Ukraine. | ||
Brittany Griner came up at one point. | ||
Oh, right, right, right, right. | ||
Yeah, but we didn't mention anything about the prisons. | ||
Or endorse American prisons either, so, yeah. | ||
As DoeIs2Deer says, there is no faster way to accelerate the divide in the country than to pardon the leader of one side after they commit high crimes. | ||
I agree. | ||
Yeah, you'd have to do both at the same time. | ||
Nope. | ||
Wait, sorry, can you say that again? | ||
This was the, uh... No faster way to divide a country than by pardoning one leader, like a leader from one side of the political aisle. | ||
And then prosecuting someone on the other side? | ||
Yeah, or not. | ||
Yeah, assumedly, I guess. | ||
I really strongly disagree with you about pardoning people and stuff like that. | ||
What's your motivation for it? | ||
Because on the whole blackmail thing to end the Ukraine war, I think it's a no-brainer, pardon them. | ||
I completely disagree. | ||
I don't think so. | ||
That makes no sense. | ||
If it had a chance of ending the war in Ukraine, I would do a lot of things, but I would certainly pardon Joe Biden. | ||
unidentified
|
Yeah, my goal is world peace. | |
If it would do thing, we do it. | ||
Sure, but the reality is it would not. | ||
No, no, it might, because he might have blackmail on him, and that might be why we're still in this war. | ||
If you have pardon power in this position, you criminally prosecute. | ||
Like, there's no circumstance in which you'd pardon Joe Biden for any reason. | ||
What do you mean? | ||
The reason is like... You can forgive him and say, don't worry Joe Biden, as president, we the American people will not hold it against you if it turns out you did bad things. | ||
Yeah, yeah, I see, yeah. | ||
unidentified
|
That's what I mean. | |
If you are the president and you have federal pardoning power, you go to your DOJ and say, lock him up. | ||
I want an indictment tomorrow morning. | ||
Right, so it's not technically pardoning, it's basically just like, we're not going to prosecute him. | ||
Well, I'm looking for... But, no, he has the prosecution power. | ||
Like, his appointees... Ian's scenario was like, if you're president, or like, if you have magically have the pardon power, would you use it to, you know... And this is my point, like, let's talk about how we deal with this in reality because this scenario is impossible. | ||
Completely impossible. | ||
Right. | ||
But like, that's also fantasy. | ||
We need ballot harvesting, ballot chasing, we need massive voter operations. Trump goes in, | ||
appoints an AG who immediately goes after Joe Biden, and we get a perp walk. There you go, | ||
problem solved. But like that's also fantasy, like if you think that's gonna happen, | ||
like you're not living in reality. That's actually possible. | ||
No, I see it's like a physical, it's a theoretical possibility. | ||
I just think, like, the fact that not only Trump gets in the White House, but that he, like, is able to... These are just opinion statements, right? | ||
I'm saying it is a fact-based reality that... | ||
Trump is running for office. | ||
Right. | ||
There's going to be an election. | ||
If he wins, he can then appoint an AG who does his thing. | ||
There is no basis in reality where someone magically has pardon power, but they're not in the government. | ||
Yeah, no, I get what you're saying. | ||
I'm just saying, like, you yourself said that, like, you think the 2024 elections are going to be... They're going to happen, but they're basically going to be a sham. | ||
I didn't say that. | ||
I said no one's going to accept the results. | ||
Oh, I see. | ||
Okay. | ||
So you think there's a real chance Trump could win? | ||
Yes. | ||
Well, to answer your question about... Oh, you have more? | ||
Trump beat Hillary Clinton. | ||
Right, but then think about 2020 when there was the whole intel community coming together and censoring the Hunter Biden story. | ||
And they created the Russia story during the election as well against Donald Trump. | ||
And Trump still beat Hillary Clinton. | ||
Because Hillary didn't go to... what was it? | ||
She skipped Michigan? | ||
Or Wisconsin? | ||
I think it was actually Pennsylvania, but I'm not positive. | ||
It was somewhere in the rest of the country. | ||
I guess you don't fully buy into the fact that they will do whatever is possible to not let him get in office. | ||
A vengeful, second-term Trump, you don't think that the deep state will... I didn't say that. | ||
But what do you think is more likely? | ||
Do you think the deep state will succeed in preventing him from getting elected? | ||
What do you think the percentage is that Trump could win? | ||
I think the bureaucratic state, the deep state, the permanent government will do everything in their power to try and stop Trump and there's a possibility Trump wins. | ||
Do you want to put a percentage on it that Trump wins? | ||
No idea. | ||
No idea. | ||
Trump won in 2016, you lost in 2020, so that means it's 50-50. | ||
50-50, okay. | ||
I give it a 7% chance. | ||
I like that, yeah. | ||
Anyone that says, when you hire me to be your boss, I'm gonna fire you, they're not gonna hire you to be their boss. | ||
Uh, the reason I'm going for pardons and why I keep talking about pardons is because I don't, honestly, I don't give a fuck about Joe Biden, Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, these old people that have been shredding my republic for the last 20, 30 years, these families. | ||
I'm tired of it all. | ||
I want to wash them away. | ||
I want to pardon everyone, let them retire so we can create a new government, a functional, liberal government. | ||
And then, from their retirement, they buy houses next to the White House. | ||
Start putting tons of money into their appointees, use their exorbitant assets and their hundreds of millions of dollars earned from their influence to then inject people into your new constitutional republic. | ||
That'll never stop though. | ||
Yeah, it will! | ||
It's called putting them in jail. | ||
Yeah, but that doesn't stop the behavior. | ||
And it also pisses people off when their relatives go to jail, so you just gotta be careful with the whole prosecution. | ||
I have very little concern for corrupt American dynasty families who have been selling us out when there's 320-some-odd million people who would smile if these people were locked up for the crimes they commit. | ||
I'm not convinced that... | ||
I'm talking about the babies too, because a lot of those hundreds of millions of babies in there. | ||
Babies smile too. | ||
I don't think it's a good idea to worry about the reactions of family members as... | ||
when it comes to whether or not we should prosecute people for violating. | ||
No, no. | ||
Or political partners. | ||
We gotta go to the Members Only. | ||
We're going way over. | ||
We gotta go to the Members Only show. | ||
So, ladies and gentlemen, head over to TimCast.com. | ||
Become a member, because that show's coming up in a few minutes. | ||
You don't want to miss it. | ||
It'll be on the front page of TimCast.com. | ||
Smash that like button. | ||
Subscribe to this channel. | ||
You can follow the show at TimCast IRL. | ||
You can follow me personally on X and on Instagram at TimCast. | ||
I just posted a little skate clip over on Instagram and X. Liam, do you want to shout anything out? | ||
Um, yeah, you guys can follow me on Twitter, x at, uh, at Cosgrove underscore IV. | ||
And, um, that that's really about the only place. | ||
I am Phil Labonte. | ||
I am PhilThatRemains on Twitter. | ||
I'm PhilThatRemainsOfficial on Instagram. | ||
The band is All That Remains. | ||
You can follow us on Apple Music, Spotify, Pandora, the old YouTube. | ||
I'm Ian Crossland. | ||
You guys follow me on x at x.com slash iancrossland. | ||
I don't know, you guys ever play XCOM? | ||
Speaking of video games earlier? | ||
Yeah. | ||
One of the best video games ever made. | ||
Is that one of the... Isn't it like a freemium game? | ||
XCOM UFO Defense. | ||
That's like a freemium alien game. | ||
Probably at this point it is. | ||
It came out by MicroProse in 1992. | ||
I would be shocked if that's the best game ever. | ||
It was really good, dude. | ||
And they made sequels. | ||
XCOM. | ||
I've never played it. | ||
I have a feeling Elon's a fan. | ||
He's got X.com. | ||
Nice job, Elon. | ||
Nice work bringing it to the forefront, brother. | ||
So come on over to TimCast.com. | ||
We're going to do a little hot after show action. | ||
I'm going to convince you why you should pardon Hillary Clinton. | ||
You're going to be into it. | ||
You're going to love it. | ||
I disagree. | ||
I don't think you should pardon Hillary Clinton, of all people. | ||
My name is Serge.com. | ||
I'm really proud of you gaining all this weight, getting shredded, bro, for real. | ||
My pleasure. | ||
Pleasure meeting you, Liam. | ||
And yeah, let's just do the after show. | ||
Let's go for it. | ||
We will see you all over at TimCast.com. |