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ian crossland
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tim pool
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We have this really funny story.
Newly declassified intelligence documents reveal how CIA officials saw two flying disks, UFOs, in the Soviet Union during the Cold War.
ian crossland
Wow!
tim pool
The White House unsealed a set of JFK assassination documents.
The files detailed three people reports UFO sighting in the Soviet Union in 1995.
That's really crazy!
How could- you know, that's so nuts!
Hunter Biden called Joe at least 24 times during business meetings with clients when his father was VP.
First son's ex-best friend will tell Congress.
ian crossland
Well, I don't really care about that.
Go back to the UFO story.
tim pool
Oh, good point, good point.
What were we talking about?
ian crossland
Something about UFOs.
tim pool
I think I lost it.
Oh, there it is.
Yeah, UFOs.
hannah claire brimelow
So we got a JFK story and a UFO story.
Has anyone seen what the White House is up to?
What else is happening?
ian crossland
Yeah, let's not undersell it.
I was joking.
Fuck this, Hunter Biden.
tim pool
Motherfucking Joe Biden.
His White House releases JFK and UFO docs.
unidentified
Wow.
hannah claire brimelow
That's the sign.
tim pool
Right on time, news breaks that he was on the phone In his son's business dealings.
Fuck these fucking fuckers.
dave landau
You think they've got- With the Chinese?
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
Ukrainians.
ian crossland
I think that- Oh, with the Ukraine?
dave landau
Okay.
There is proof of the Chinese as well, correct?
Just recently?
tim pool
I do believe so, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
It's really a lot of data.
It's almost intentionally confusing.
dave landau
Yeah.
unidentified
It's not a bad strategy.
You put so much out there that we just don't, we're not surprised anymore.
We don't care anymore.
You know, just flood it with all, you know.
It's not a terrible strategy.
dave landau
Well, a ton of the proof came out that was all, you know, it was discussed in, like, Laptop from Hell and all that other stuff.
Like, all of that came out that, to be authentic, that had to do with the actual Chinese dealings.
But now this actually came out that he was on the phone with Hunter during the... Okay, I just want to make sure.
ian crossland
Yeah, Kareem Jean-Pierre said he has not been involved with any of Hunter's business dealings.
Correct.
Okay, so being on the phone with him while he's making a business dealing... Is the opposite of that.
dave landau
Yeah.
ian crossland
Well spoke.
dave landau
Yes.
ian crossland
So you think they got a trove of, like, stories?
They're like, if shit hits the fan, pull one of these and we'll sell it to the American people.
dave landau
Can you imagine, though, it being so bad that they're like, all right, listen, JFK and UFO in case this gets worse.
We have these just in the back.
hannah claire brimelow
We'll just keep them in the back pocket in case.
dave landau
Just, do we have anything worse?
They're like, yeah, believe it or not, we do.
tim pool
What's the next story?
ian crossland
Tower 7?
unidentified
Tower 7 would be a good one.
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like they're really ruining UFO news.
You know what I mean?
Now when UFO news comes out, we're not like, oh, interesting.
We're like, ah, what are you guys doing?
What information are you hiding?
dave landau
They shot one into a lake last year and we were all like, yeah, I don't really care.
You locked us up for a year.
ian crossland
The balloon?
dave landau
The Chinese balloons?
Yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah, when I- I've just- my mind has changed now where I just think of it as unidentified flying object.
I just think it could be fucking anything.
Could be a- a drone.
You know, the amount of drones now that we have, too.
Like, I don't buy any alien bullshit.
tim pool
Like, we shot- we shot down a UFO and it was like some college classes experimental balloon or some shit.
dave landau
Well, yeah, once it's a balloon and you're like, that's the Chinese espionage we're worried about is birthday party, I no longer care.
Like it doesn't seem, there's no mystique about it.
It doesn't seem fun.
Like that fascinates me right there at the alien or the spacecraft that I'm watching right there.
But yeah, everything they have, I don't buy anymore.
I think it's all lies.
ian crossland
It's just magnetism.
I don't know how these, well, I wonder what these drones are sometimes.
It's probably all sorts of wild, crazy technologies that Tesla was working on.
Long range electricity, maybe.
dave landau
Yeah.
ian crossland
Maybe not.
Maybe just super lightweight metals, metal materials and fusion power or something.
dave landau
I mean, I do think that UFOs, I mean, aliens do exist.
I just don't, I don't even know if they know.
unidentified
Do you think we're advanced enough as a human species to be contacted by aliens?
I've heard from a lot of those experts in UFO science and astronomy, they're like, once we get to a certain level of being advanced, then other societies might reach out.
Maybe.
dave landau
No.
tim pool
Maybe.
hannah claire brimelow
We started seeing... He's not interested in us enough yet?
tim pool
Well, I mean, when was the last time you tried communicating with a bunch of groundhogs?
hannah claire brimelow
All the time, man.
I just want to know what they're up to.
dave landau
Do you ever go out to... I was talking to your chickens.
tim pool
Yeah, but see, we've domesticated those.
dave landau
Oh.
tim pool
And so, it's possible.
ian crossland
Maybe humans are considered domesticated aliens.
tim pool
Yeah, but you can see us.
Like, Roberto Jr.
knows us.
We were there when he was born.
Quite literally, when he hatched, we're standing there.
And so, he's super chill with us.
And like, we could walk up, he just looks at us, it's really funny.
Roberto, his dad, was born, you know, and survived a culling because they killed the boys.
Born a woman, by the way.
Well, it was a boy, but they killed the boys.
ian crossland
Yeah, we thought they were all hands.
tim pool
And so, he got lucky, but he wasn't raised around people, so he doesn't like people.
You know?
dave landau
Well, yeah, and you survived a holocaust.
And I'm not just saying that to be funny.
If you see a bunch of your friends die, they're not gonna trust you.
tim pool
Dude, when these chickens are born, yup, the humans grab all the boys and just kill them all.
dave landau
Yeah.
unidentified
Rough.
dave landau
I wouldn't trust you either.
tim pool
But Roberto Jr., you know, we raised him, so he's like, you know.
dave landau
Yeah, they're cool.
ian crossland
To answer your question, Kellen, I think that we have and are being contacted by other species around the universe, but we aren't aware of how to detect the communication.
unidentified
So then we're not advanced enough?
Or I guess we're advanced enough that people are reaching out is what you're saying, but we're not able to reach out, reach back.
tim pool
I don't necessarily agree.
Take the Christian approach.
If Earth was created by God, and we are all in God's image, then there's no aliens.
And if they are, you know, maybe they, it's possible they exist, but there's a good chance if, you know, assuming that we are in a construct of some sort, there aren't.
And you can take the secular view of the same thing.
Simulation theory.
If this reality was constructed by a higher power, whether it be your Christian view of God, or your Abrahamic view of God, or a simulation like Elon Musk, or Bezos, or whoever else is talking about, why would there be aliens?
Like, when we play Grand Theft Auto, there are no aliens.
It's just the people in Liberty City or whatever.
dave landau
Or if you take the combination of the two and you have, like, the spaceships of Ezekiel.
Yeah.
You know, it's like, have you ever read it?
No, it's a, it's a book that's not around anymore, but it's very fascinating.
And it's a, it's about how you read an Ezekiel makes perfect sense for it to be a spacecraft.
And it goes into like how he goes to have a lot of this stuff built.
It's, it's pretty crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
dave landau
Like the chariots of fire and all that stuff.
It's a really interesting read.
And it kind of explains how this book is specific to what could be a spacecraft and how things were built.
ian crossland
Did they actually have chariots of fire in the Bible?
Is that what you're referencing?
dave landau
Not the, I'm thinking of the wrong thing, but the book.
tim pool
Is it Enoch?
dave landau
Yes.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
ian crossland
I know that God had angels with flaming swords, so they're mentioning technology of like fire swords.
dave landau
Yes.
ian crossland
And if they have flaming chariots, maybe there it's like combustion?
dave landau
Yeah, something.
I can't remember exactly what it is, but yes.
tim pool
But come on, dude.
dave landau
You're naming it, yeah.
tim pool
Any advanced species is likely not using combustion.
Like, combustion is old-ass technology.
dave landau
But if you don't know what it is, and you're looking at something that's lit up, what are you gonna call it?
tim pool
No, I'm saying, why would an advanced alien species that it comes and creates life or whatever be using combustion?
ian crossland
Yeah, on Earth, I would've thought they just were the people 12,000 years ago, and that's what they had.
They found oil, they knew how to light it on fire, whatever the fuck.
Yeah, it's coal.
tim pool
Oh, like the Atlanteans.
dave landau
I'm not saying it's right, it was just to throw it out there for the conversation.
My guess is it's probably terribly incorrect.
tim pool
The Atlanteans had combustion and other people saw it and were like, whoa.
hannah claire brimelow
The raccoon diet gives you health, but not insight into science.
dave landau
No, no.
tim pool
What if?
dave landau
I don't understand science.
tim pool
Let's combine all the conspiracy theories.
dave landau
I think it's all hocus pocus.
tim pool
Let's combine it all.
Mud flood, right?
Tartaria.
What actually happened is most life on the planet just left the prostate.
Human civilization developed, like the city of Atlantis developed technology, built a spaceship, left.
The humans that stayed behind had no idea what the fuck was going on, you know, now live in here.
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ian crossland
I'll think of that when I'm like flying an airplane.
If there's an earthquake right now, I wouldn't even notice.
I wouldn't even care.
It'd be fine.
tim pool
Like I think... Depending on how big the earthquake was.
ian crossland
Yeah, I guess.
tim pool
Like a 9.9 happens.
dave landau
Didn't even wake up.
unidentified
Oh, really?
dave landau
Yeah.
They said on the news it was the worst one to ever happen.
And I'm like, it's not all that bad.
ian crossland
Where was it?
dave landau
I was in like, I think it was in Oklahoma or something.
ian crossland
Oh, I was referencing like if I was on an airplane and it happened, it'd be like, well, whatever.
It's none of my concern anymore.
So those people that took the spaceship off earth.
dave landau
Yeah, you wouldn't care at all.
hannah claire brimelow
There was just that big earthquake in Alaska, and I feel like everyone else was like, hmm, that's Alaska.
tim pool
But that was the Aleutians.
hannah claire brimelow
It's so far away.
unidentified
It's the Ring of Fire.
hannah claire brimelow
Who cares about that?
tim pool
Yes, but it was the Aleutians.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, those stretched to Japan.
ian crossland
Did it cause a tsunami?
hannah claire brimelow
No, there was just a tsunami warning for like an hour.
tim pool
But it wasn't like Anchorage or anything.
It was like on Alaska, where 12 people live.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, we don't care about those 12 people.
tim pool
Except if you want crabs.
ian crossland
Yeah, definitely because of climate change, of all things, turned out.
tim pool
Yo, I was in Vegas.
It was 120 degrees outside.
Two women just died.
unidentified
Oh, it's all over the place, yeah.
tim pool
It was 114.
When I was there, it was 120.
Holy fuck.
You walk outside of any casino.
Nobody goes outside, for the most part, except at night.
At night, it was 110.
So, right when we got off the plane, we flew JSX.
dave landau
Were they hookers or real people?
tim pool
The people walking around?
dave landau
That died.
tim pool
Two women who are hiking in like the Death Valley or something like that.
dave landau
Yeah, a lot of people do die out there.
tim pool
It wasn't Death Valley, it was called something else, like the Heat Valley or whatever.
Ironic.
114 degrees and they just never came back.
Jesus.
Dude, I walked outside to cross from, I think it was the Cosmo to the Aria, and it's quite literally like a minute walk.
dave landau
You're just covered in sweat.
tim pool
No, it's dry.
There's no humidity there, so you don't sweat at all.
You feel coolness on all over you because the water is being ripped from your body.
But as soon as I got in, all of my shoes were Scorching hot because they're, they're black vans.
It was nuts.
I don't know how people, I was driving around, you see people walking outside and I'm just like, that's crazy.
Then of course this story, two women walking for a hike, dead.
ian crossland
Dude in Abu Dhabi?
unidentified
154?
ian crossland
Was it Abu Dhabi?
It was like in the east coast of the Persian Gulf, 154 degrees last week.
dave landau
I feel like that just shows you God doesn't want you there.
unidentified
Yeah.
Okay.
hannah claire brimelow
I was going to say, you know, these places are hot, but also how much of this is self-inflicted by the fact that these are like, Just complete black concrete like Texas uses what white concrete so it doesn't absorb as much heat like if you have these massive cities which already retain heat on top of black concrete which absorbs more heat
I have a hard time gauging how, what, because I don't know about science, much like you, how much the temperature increases because of what we've done to the area that it's in.
It would be hot, I totally believe it, but is it extra hot because we aren't thinking about what we're building?
unidentified
That's a big problem in the Chicago area.
tim pool
As of right now, it's 120.4 in Abadan, Iran.
Basra, Iraq is 120.
dave landau
Well, there goes my family vacation.
tim pool
It's all basically Tunisia, Iraq, Kuwait, etc.
Do you think that they're controlling the weather to attack Iran?
ian crossland
No.
tim pool
Minimum Concordia.
Minus 113.
What the fuck?
dave landau
I had a friend who taught a lot of people.
It was in Iran.
A lot of people that would come over and kind of like switch from their side over to America.
A lot of them were like, you know, fake traders or whatever.
But, uh, he would teach him English and stuff like that, and, uh, who was part of the U.S.
military.
And, like, seriously, like, the worst snakes imaginable and stuff just come inside to keep cool, like, it's a living hell.
hannah claire brimelow
No, none for me, thank you, though.
dave landau
Like, it's awful there.
tim pool
At around, uh, at around minus 50, I think, you can pour water, and it'll start freezing, just like... Oh, that's cool.
hannah claire brimelow
You've seen the videos of people, like, chucking water, and it just becomes ice as they throw it, right?
tim pool
Yeah, snow.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, there you go.
dave landau
Well, that's like the cooking eggs thing.
I mean, I remember doing that in Arizona as a kid on the sidewalk at my cousin's house.
tim pool
So, as of right now, it's 109 in Las Vegas.
It's 720 in Vegas right now.
What do we got?
Wichita Falls is 108.
Glasgow Airport, 107.
unidentified
I wonder how long until they'll start using the drones that they use in the Middle East here, stateside.
ian crossland
You know, the ones that... Spray water?
unidentified
No, they, like, shock the atmosphere.
They, like, shoot electricity in the atmosphere, and it produces rain clouds somehow.
ian crossland
Well, that's awesome.
unidentified
I don't understand the science, but... That's incredible.
tim pool
Yo, the coldest place in America right now is 45 degrees.
That's it.
In King Salmon.
That's it.
Where's King Salmon?
I wear shorts at 45.
hannah claire brimelow
Where's King Salmon?
tim pool
I have no idea.
It's a guy.
hannah claire brimelow
It's a guy.
tim pool
Mount Washington!
unidentified
How is he so cool?
hannah claire brimelow
He's just super cool?
tim pool
Mount Washington I think was like, what was it, like minus 100?
We were supposed to go there?
dave landau
Where's Mount Washington?
tim pool
I think it's like Vermont.
dave landau
Vermont?
tim pool
Yeah, or New Hampshire or something.
dave landau
Negative 100?
tim pool
Yeah, this was earlier this year.
hannah claire brimelow
Is that with windchill or is it just straight up?
tim pool
That was actual just temperature I'm pretty sure.
unidentified
The crazier thing that I've seen is how hot the ocean, the Atlantic Ocean, has been and like people in Florida like it's too hot to swim.
It's like 98 degrees.
What?
dave landau
They're saying it's gotten hotter in the last couple years than it has throughout the last like hundred or something.
unidentified
And yeah, recorded history whenever we started taking note of it.
It's wild, like you can't even swim, and they said it's going to be bad for hurricane season, but we'll see.
They said last year was supposed to be pretty bad, and I don't think it really was, if I remember correctly.
ian crossland
There was a year, like four years ago, where we had three hurricanes.
Normally there's one.
So that was like a big... I think we're in frogs in a pot with the climate thing right now, and like people are making fun of the climate zealots, because a lot of them are misled.
I don't think you can stop producing waste.
tim pool
Well, some of them are developmentally disabled.
ian crossland
Yeah, literally.
But if we just ignore it, I just watched a video of the sea level rising slowly every year, every year, every year for the last like 20 or 30 years.
tim pool
That's fake news.
ian crossland
Are you sure?
I hope so.
tim pool
Well, I'll tell you this.
If a guy comes to me and he brings a bunch of his friends, they're all very wealthy, and they say, listen to us, the ocean levels are going to rise.
And then I look down at my portfolio and I'm like, all of you guys have beachfront property.
Why would I trust them?
That's just it.
Sorry.
Have a nice day.
Go fuck yourselves.
Because Obama, his house should be underwater.
If this is true.
And it may be true.
ian crossland
No, it's only inches.
unidentified
That's true.
dave landau
He told us.
tim pool
We did.
We pulled this up, remember?
dave landau
It was five and a half feet.
tim pool
Oh no, I wasn't there.
We pulled up the NOAA chart, and it's like, within ten years, most of his property is submerged.
Well, who the fuck is buying?
Are they like, well, the end is coming.
unidentified
That's how much money they have.
So, uh, might as well just buy property and enjoy it.
tim pool
Before the end wipes us all out.
Maybe that's the mentality.
Maybe all of these global elites are like, you know, the world is warming, we're all gonna die, we've got no time left, so we're gonna buy beachfront property to ride it out in style.
ian crossland
It looks like the sea level's risen about close to 300 millimeters in the last 150 years.
I don't know if that's shocking or not.
There's too much disinformation about climate change.
Some people, I've been told, are hiding certain parts of the climate shift over the last few hundred years because it doesn't work with their data.
They want to show a constant escalation, but it jolts and you'll see upticks and then the temperatures go down.
tim pool
Here's a good one.
Hazmat said, no insurance agency would allow mortgages for waterfront property if climate change was real.
Tell me how any bank is selling a 30-year mortgage in Miami Beach if any of these people actually believed it.
dave landau
And Miami Beach was supposed to be wiped off the planet like 10 years ago, I think.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
They're lying.
Sorry.
And I'll tell you this.
Maybe, maybe they're not.
dave landau
Certainly it's within the realm of possibility.
tim pool
But they're untrustworthy.
dave landau
Yeah, they are untrustworthy.
hannah claire brimelow
It's shifty for sure.
ian crossland
And misled.
The idea that we can cease production to save it is not the way.
You need to reuse the waste.
It's the only...
Only ethical and logical solution.
tim pool
It would be funny, though, if they start, you know, at Miami Beach building platforms at, like, the fourth floor that look suspiciously like a boardwalk and connecting all of the buildings.
You know, like, what's going on here?
And they're like, don't mind us.
dave landau
No big deal.
tim pool
No big deal.
Ensuring our, and they're waterproofing the base levels.
dave landau
Yeah, all of a sudden you realize they're building little rockets on the bottom of them.
tim pool
That would be, how cool would it be to have a building that was actually like four stories underwater?
ian crossland
That's how South America was, and the Bay Lin where I stayed, but they were like stilts.
The bottom half of the house would be like open, no walls, and it would just be like on four giant wooden pillars.
Well, yeah, but I'm saying like- And you go upstairs and that's where the family lives full time.
You go into a building- Build boats and shit on the bottom floor.
tim pool
You walk onto like a large bridge into a building, And the rooms are actually underwater.
unidentified
There's a, um, there's a hotel in China where it used to be a quarry.
And so they flooded it.
But before they flooded it, they built like 10 stories of hotel rooms.
No shit.
Into the side of the quarry and then they flooded it.
So now it's like an underwater hotel.
It's, it's so cool.
It's incredible.
But they, it totally an engineering marvel.
Like it took a lot of money, a lot of time, some very smart people to get this done.
hannah claire brimelow
Also, would you stay there and be like, Oh my gosh, the window's going to break.
unidentified
Oh yeah, here it is.
dave landau
Yeah, I'd be a little freaked out.
hannah claire brimelow
Couldn't help it.
unidentified
This is sick.
ian crossland
Oh, so it's above water and goes under?
unidentified
Yeah, I forget how many stories goes beneath.
dave landau
I'd be like, I'd like one of the rooms that is not underwater, please.
unidentified
Oh, the B1M is awesome, I love this guy.
The structure features a full-height glass atrium conceived as a waterfall design presented extreme construction crisis.
Wow.
For me.
Is this China?
Yeah, China.
He's like, we're gonna adjust.
You know, if the flooding gets bad, we'll find ways.
So they kind of just built it and then let it... I think so.
That's where I understand it.
Is it China?
Yeah, China.
He's like, we're gonna adjust, you know, if the flooding gets bad, we'll find ways.
dave landau
So they kind of just built it and then let it...
I think so.
unidentified
I can't remember the exact order.
Oh yeah, because they left the waterfall.
dave landau
Is it done yet?
unidentified
This is four years ago, this video.
There might be an update.
I thought it was done.
of extraordinary projects conceived and constructed...
This is four years ago, this video.
There might be an update.
Undoubtedly.
Um...
hannah claire brimelow
China opens hotel and quarry?
I thought it was done.
unidentified
Pottery Pot in China.
...used to create Zhongguo Jianzhu.
Yes.
Whoa.
Yeah, they flooded it.
hannah claire brimelow
Because for someone, like, the underwater rooms are in a trap.
unidentified
That's crazy.
dave landau
Oh, for sure.
I would, like, I'd go underwater and eat.
unidentified
That's because the bottom floor of this hotel is actually built under the water.
dave landau
It would suck if, like, all those sharks came in your room.
unidentified
The first time ever that I'm gonna be eating.
dave landau
You woke up.
unidentified
Have you?
I wonder if you'd get seasick being in an underwater hotel room, even though you're not moving.
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like pressure, you know what I mean?
unidentified
That might get to you, yeah.
Cool.
ian crossland
That looks awesome.
unidentified
Cool place.
dave landau
I don't know, I would stay there.
I'd take it back.
tim pool
We're all gonna live in Waterworld.
That movie was great.
And we're gonna ride around stealing gas and smoking cigarettes.
dave landau
And I'm gonna have sand, and I'm gonna be like, talk about how much money it's worth, because it is money now, because it's sand.
It's called dry land.
tim pool
Yes, it's amazing.
And then I guess they go to Mt.
Everest.
They're gonna remake Waterworld.
dave landau
Oh, good.
Why wouldn't you?
ian crossland
I liked the idea, but... Do it on Mars, if you may remake it.
Or it may have to be the sequel, like water, another water world.
dave landau
Water Mars.
ian crossland
It'll be like after they melt all the ice under the dust on Mars.
tim pool
Here's an idea.
It's a movie where there are people on like an abandoned planet.
And then the actual story is that it was a colony ship that crashed.
And 300 years later, they have no idea human civilization ever existed.
And they're just, you know, Living 300 years, human civilization, couple thousand people only, and they have no idea that they came from Earth with knowledge of technology because their ship crashed over.
ian crossland
That'd be cool, like an M. Night Shyamalan movie where you don't find out till the end, but it doesn't even matter when you find out, it's just kind of part of the story, because the story's so good.
dave landau
Or like, yeah, or the ship comes back and they discover Earth.
But it's like all been flooded by water, but then they start discovering the stuff about Earth, and you're like, oh.
tim pool
Well, but why would Earth, it's like, so what I'm saying is there's a story that takes place on a planet that's in development from, like, tribal, like, people.
dave landau
Yeah.
tim pool
And they have religion, and then there's actually a massively advanced human civilization, us.
dave landau
Yeah.
tim pool
A colony ship went to space.
Let's say the military officers running the ship died in a gas leak, oxygen bursts, an emergency release drops the pods on the planet, they all come out and they're like, what happened?
They have kids, tell stories, stories become myth and legend.
No one actually, by four generations, no one actually believes Earth is real.
It's a crazy story of heaven.
Like, there's a place where we come from way up in the sky where you can fly and there's all the food you can eat whenever you want.
People just eat so much food and everyone is there.
You can talk in an instant just by thinking and they're like...
Sounds like magic.
And they would just assume it's some fantastic religious nonsense.
ian crossland
I like that movie because you wouldn't have cell phones.
I was there too.
Did you ever get the vibe that movies started to suck when the characters talk on cell phones?
dave landau
Yes.
It made it convenient.
ian crossland
Yeah.
dave landau
A phone booth wouldn't even exist.
ian crossland
I love that where they got to get to a phone because it's like I need to communicate and all that like struggle is now removed because it's just like, well, I think that's why a lot of movies are set.
dave landau
Sorry.
hannah claire brimelow
No, you go.
dave landau
Like a lot of movies that are set back in the seventies because people want to write them where there's not an easily fixable problem with a cell phone.
tim pool
You know, the worst thing about sitcoms is that almost all of their problems would be solved by saying a word.
It'll be like, you know, a guy's sister is over and the girlfriend walks in and she sees this woman in a bathrobe and she's like, how dare you?
No, wait, let me explain.
No, you're cheating on me.
No, just let me say one thing.
No, I won't let you.
I'm breaking up with you.
Aw, shucks.
Instead of just going, it's my sister.
Shut up.
I hate those shows.
Like, just say the word.
unidentified
Say word.
tim pool
All right, let's go to colors.
unidentified
Alrighty.
Okay, so... We can actually see the names this time, so we're just gonna go down the list.
Akrul, if I say that right, I'm gonna unmute you.
You should be with us.
What up?
Yo.
He might have to unmute himself.
tim pool
No, Akrul, you are mute.
You are now muted.
unidentified
Now you're muted.
tim pool
Now you're unmuted and just not saying words.
unidentified
Hello?
ian crossland
It's in your settings.
unidentified
Yeah, you might need to choose a different input for your microphone.
Or you're on push-to-talk.
tim pool
Alright, we are gonna come back to you, Akrul.
We'll give you some, uh, it looks like you're trying to figure this one out.
So we will, we will come back to you.
We'll try you next.
unidentified
To see Nosky.
tim pool
Nosky!
Nosky jumped the line.
What's up?
unidentified
Howdy, howdy, howdy.
How's it going?
Great, actually.
I've been telling people this is the best day ever, to be honest.
I started out, I replied to one of Dave's tweets, and he actually followed me back this morning.
Wow.
Best day ever.
tim pool
Do you remember doing that, Dave?
dave landau
Yeah, I think so.
unidentified
Well, there you go.
You're lucky number 100.
Thank you.
dave landau
Well, there you go.
unidentified
Nice.
dave landau
I feel good.
unidentified
So, my question is for you, Dave, actually.
dave landau
Okay.
unidentified
I've said it before.
Others have said it.
Oftentimes, you're the funniest person in the room, if not one of them.
Uh, as such, how do you handle being in a room where there's so many people that are equal to you or maybe on that next level?
Uh, does it alter how you react in that room?
Uh, do you feel like you need to step up your game at all?
dave landau
No, I just have fun.
I just enjoy talking to people.
And if there's a people that are equally funny or having fun, I just enjoy just talking to other people.
I mean, it's kind of like, uh, especially when you're surrounded by comics or other people that are.
You know, you don't always want to just kind of one up and try to steal a conversation.
I just think being natural and being yourself is the best way to go about it.
And you kind of see where everything lands.
unidentified
Right on.
I can agree with that.
dave landau
Yeah, that's kind of the best way.
Thank you.
unidentified
Really good stuff.
dave landau
Thank you.
unidentified
So the follow up to that would be, you know, based on your routine, it does use a lot of material from your past.
dave landau
Yes.
unidentified
You know, different stories there.
How much of that is actually true story and how much of it is garnished to spice it up or polish it?
dave landau
Uh, most of it is.
I mean, it's basically all true, it's just some of it will be, like, exaggerated for the point of, like, comic relief a little bit, but the stuff that seems like it might be falsified isn't.
Like, the harder stuff is completely real.
Like, if you're talking about, like, if you look into, like, hitting my bully with a brick, or almost getting picked up by a pedo, or all, like, that's all completely real.
Like, uh, being arrested 13 times, the car crashes, the...
being attacked by a wolf man, all that stuff, like that's all completely real.
So like that's, and that took me a long time to do it on stage.
Like even the one that I'm doing recently about my parents coming home
from my daggeting cancer surgery and I had passed out from masturbating
while making a grilled cheese.
Like that was completely, that's completely real, but it took a long time for me to be vulnerable enough
to actually start talking about those on stage.
So, like, at first, you know, it's like a lot of dark one-liners, but over time it's grown to where I don't mind being completely honest with an audience, you know?
I mean, you certainly cut out certain parts, like the...
The immense pain that you cause your family and friends.
But it's all pretty accurate or a slightly embellished, for the sake of storytelling, version of the truth.
unidentified
Alright, I get that.
My favorite one is the wolfman joke.
dave landau
That one is true.
The only part in that that's slightly exaggerated is in the beginning of that, I talk about bonging a fifth and falling through a glass table, which is a completely true story, but that is actually separate from how I got to the mental hospital, so I combine two stories there.
But yeah, I did in fact bong a fifth.
My friend Anthony who's in that story, he's passed now, but my friend Nick, I actually just went to a fair with him and his kid and we were talking about it, you know, like our kids are riding rides and we were still discussing about the days where I used to bong fifths, you know.
ian crossland
What is the fifth?
dave landau
A fifth of whiskey.
That was a fifth of absolute vodka, but I used to do mainly whiskey.
When I was really drunk or high, they'd pour a fifth or a half pint or whatever into a beer bong and I'd slam it.
ian crossland
Oh, okay.
They may smoke weed out of a bong with alcohol as the water.
dave landau
Oh, no, no, like a funnel at the end and then a giant tube, and then I would do that with liquor.
And it was because I would shake, too, if I didn't drink.
I was really into complete, full-blown alcoholism by the time I was 15, and then I quit when I was 27.
ian crossland
How did life change for the most after that?
I don't know, we could take more followers.
dave landau
Oh no, for the better.
I mean, mainly for the better, but I still, like I said, I struggle with stuff where I like to do stuff in extremes, so I always will have a problem with something, but I'm much better at it now because I can identify it and I'm always honest with myself about it.
tim pool
Right on.
unidentified
Hell yeah.
dave landau
Yeah, but I appreciate the call.
I mean, yeah, it's all based on truth and I do that so, you know, not just so people can relate to me, but it is cool when people do relate and go like, I had this serious problem.
I've been sober for three years because of something you said.
That's kind of a crazy thing to hear because you told a joke.
tim pool
Right on.
Word, is that satisfying, Cernovsky?
unidentified
That is more than satisfying.
Thank you very much.
dave landau
Thank you.
tim pool
Thank you for calling in, brother.
We're going to try and get a Kroll back.
And a Kroll, did you figure it out?
ian crossland
You can do it.
dave landau
No, I don't.
tim pool
I don't think it's figured out yet, brother.
unidentified
No, man.
We'll come circle back.
tim pool
We'll come back to you.
We'll come back to you.
Let's jump down to flagrant triggers.
unidentified
Flagrant.
You were with us.
What up?
Hey, thanks for taking the call, guys.
Hopefully I don't cause a 20-minute debacle this time.
My question's for Tim, and then I'd like to get the panel's thoughts after.
Tim, you're known to congratulate, like, Radical left influencers or leftist influencers or politicians when they do like general acts of good.
dave landau
Yeah.
unidentified
But my question is, should we reward those types since they're creating division and promote radical ideology with praise since they're actively pushing for the downfall of basically the Republic?
tim pool
Yes.
unidentified
And that especially applies to paid actors?
Because, this, I guess the second question would be, isn't that kind of rewarding evil?
tim pool
No.
You, uh, so, here's the issue.
Uh, I'll tell the Joey Stiles story.
I like Joey.
Uh, Joey hired a bunch of black guys to smash up a car with Trump logos on it, to trick people into thinking that if you were a Trump supporter, black people would attack you.
Or, whatever, to create shock content.
He got exposed, he got attacked for it.
Everybody shat on him, and told him to go fuck himself.
Prominent personalities and influencers were like, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, you did fake news.
And even I said that.
And then, I thought about it for like two seconds, and was like, holy shit, that's actually a really bad idea.
Because that means the only thing he can do is more evil.
If you've got someone like Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks, being attacked relentlessly by the left, for saying things that are true and correct, or like Ana Kasparian, a better example.
She's like, hey, don't call me a birthing person.
And the left relentlessly berates and attacks her?
Where do you think she's gonna go?
Do you think she's gonna cry and beg and say, okay, fine, I'll do whatever you say?
She could, only if she has no other options.
But what if then a whole bunch of people like, say, us, are like, hey, you know, we may disagree, Anna, but that was really cool of you to say, and we respect you on this one.
Well now, there's an open door to her right, and a screaming pitchfork mob to her left.
Guess which direction she runs.
You have to give people the opportunity to do the right thing.
If someone comes out, if Anna Kavanaugh said the right thing, and we all just went, fuck you, she'd say, look, she'd think to herself, my only option is to pander to these lefties, because the right hates me no matter what I do.
Then she tweets out, I'm so sorry for offending you, I'll do anything you say.
That's her only choice.
So we don't want to create those situations.
We want to tell people who are bad, who are doing bad things, if you do a good thing, we praise you and reward you.
Because a good thing is good.
You do a bad thing, we criticize you.
And so long as you do a good thing, you're welcome here.
dave landau
Yeah, I agree with you.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I do too.
unidentified
Yeah.
dave landau
Cause I mean, if you just, if, cause then you're being inauthentic to yourself, if you don't, you know, if you're not being honest with her and how you feel.
hannah claire brimelow
And you want to recognize good in the world, right?
Like if she's doing a good thing, she deserves credit for that.
She deserves condemnation for doing something bad.
We can't just always have negativity being the only thing we respond to, right?
tim pool
I mean, imagine this way.
Imagine like you're trying to, uh, what was someone just stepped out?
unidentified
That was a cruel.
tim pool
Oh, why is this?
This should not be making those noises.
Anyway, imagine you are training, you know, a horse.
And you want the horse to jump over a log.
And every time he does, you whack him as hard as you can with a stick.
Do you think the horse will continue to jump over the log?
ian crossland
I don't think so.
tim pool
No, the horse is probably going to stop jumping over the log and back away and be like, OK, like we negative reinforcement.
We know it.
If you hit someone repeatedly, they'll stop doing it.
So if like, Ana Kasparian's doing a bunch of good things, but you then just insult her, she'll stop saying good things.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
It's just like, normal, any life form would do this.
You know?
dave landau
Absolutely.
tim pool
So it's like, you can give the horse an apple, when it jumps over the log, and the horse is gonna be like, that was awesome!
Jumped over this log, gave me an apple!
I'm in a good mood.
unidentified
There you go.
tim pool
That's how it's done.
How do we turn off that audio?
unidentified
It's in settings, you have to turn it off of notifications.
I can find it afterwards, Tim, unless you want to do it right now.
Yeah, those bings and bongs can get to you.
ian crossland
You know, I'll follow up, I agree.
tim pool
Yeah, who turned it on?
ian crossland
Basically with what everybody's saying, I agree with that.
And when I think of humans, I don't really think of them as like, this one is an evil one, this one is a good one, because people are capable of horrible evil and amazing good.
Everybody is.
Um, so you want to reward the good and highlight the good and expose the evil, I suppose, but not linger on it too.
You know, that's kind of a subject of how you deal with evil actions is like, I think exposing it for sure is a good start.
hannah claire brimelow
Exposing it and condemning it.
I mean, if it's bad, it's bad, and you should feel comfortable saying that, right?
ian crossland
But a lot of times, it's so bad that it condemns itself.
Just the exposition itself, like, shows the world of what a horrible thing it is.
You don't even need to be part of the inspiration.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, there's, like, dogpiling where everyone has, you know, told someone how horrible they are or whatever else.
You don't necessarily need to add to it.
But, like, if someone does something wrong, even if it's obvious it's wrong, you can still be like, yes, that was wrong.
There's no reason not to.
I think part of it is, like, what do you ultimately want?
Do you want to say, you know, there's no redemption, right?
There's no chance for you to ever do anything good because everything you do is bad.
Like, maybe you do feel that way, but on the other hand, like, if you're trying to tell people, like, there is a path forward, even if in the past you have advocated for bad policies and, like, When you speak truth and when you have these good values and we support what you're doing, I'm going to be open about that, right?
Are you looking to keep divisions alive or are you looking to see people transition into a better way of living?
dave landau
There's always a chance for redemption, at least I believe that.
And I mean, people are evil and people are good.
But I mean, if there's a point where you see that, I mean, you talk about overwhelming emotions.
I mean, sometimes there is something that happens in your life that makes you finally feel something that allows you to change for the better, or at least attempt to.
And I mean, you do want to reward that.
tim pool
There's not always a path to redemption, though.
For most people.
dave landau
I think there is.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Pedophiles.
unidentified
Well, but of course it's an outlier.
dave landau
Yeah, that's true.
ian crossland
I think they could.
If someone never pedophiles again, then they've pretty much redeemed themselves.
tim pool
Recidivism is like, what, 100%?
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think their victim is cool with that?
Like, that's the thing.
ian crossland
No, I don't know what the victim feels.
hannah claire brimelow
It's easy for you to be like, well, if you never do it again, but like the person who they were harmed on such a profound level, like, I don't know.
It would be very difficult to do that.
tim pool
I think it's worse than murder because murder ends a life, but Abusing kids in this way, not only destroys their life, but it actually destroys the fabric of human civilization.
ian crossland
It deranges consciousness.
tim pool
It fucks everything up.
So it's just like, it's a crime against humanity.
Murder is murder, murder is wrong, it's a crime against a human.
This pedophilia and the extent to which these traffickers and everything that's a crime against my is destroying someone's home That's like akin to murder to me.
ian crossland
Like if you remove someone's house their ability to live that's almost like killing them I don't know the I hope the world starts to see it that way like home defense is a big part of preserving yourself Well, I don't even yeah, I think it's beyond that too and people lose jobs.
dave landau
They get absolutely zero forgiveness They lose everything they've ever worked for I mean, there's certain there's a lot of things that goes along with that that I think is pure not or evil But yeah, when you look at something like pedophilia Yes, if that's something that you're wired for and it's something that you do.
Unfortunately, I don't think there is Redemption for that so I will say yeah as a blanket statement.
I will agree with you there I do think but I do think that there is a punishment for that and That's death That's just my opinion.
tim pool
My main opposition to the death penalty is there's no system perfect enough to protect the innocent when it comes to it.
dave landau
My main problem with it is having a government with the ability to decide that bothers me.
tim pool
Exactly.
Kamala Harris being like, kill this person, trust me, bothers me.
ian crossland
Trump said he's gonna execute anyone trafficking, even women.
tim pool
Death penalty.
ian crossland
Swiftly too.
He's all about this swift execution kind of mentality.
It's very fucking creepy.
tim pool
Well, 30 years on death row makes no sense.
If you're convicted of something warranting the death penalty, while I disagree with that there's a decent percentage of people who are innocent, and decent could be 0.1, but it's scary, but my point is this.
If the process is such that you have been deemed through due process to have forfeit your life based on the crimes you've committed, why are we waiting 30 years?
ian crossland
Well, I think it comes from the idea of, like, FISA courts and, like, you're going to kill someone if the government's going to kill them.
They better be fucking 1,000, like, 100% sure, not 99.8.
tim pool
So it should, they should be prioritized.
Appeals process should be prioritized.
Stays should be prioritized.
But for people who, it shouldn't take 30 years.
ian crossland
Also, like, if the cartel hires someone to run a kid across and they kill the runner, did they make the world better?
dave landau
No, you didn't.
And you're blaming the wrong person.
That's just... What do you mean?
tim pool
What?
dave landau
If you hire some... If, like, a woman you're forcing to run a kid over?
tim pool
Forcing?
Wait, wait, wait.
No, he said if a cartel hires a runner... Do they force people to?
ian crossland
I don't know if they subjugate humans and make them run... Kill the mules?
tim pool
I don't know, man.
Yeah.
That's the trafficker!
dave landau
I'm saying a forced mule.
tim pool
I think you have to still be harsh against people who are doing that.
The United States does not pay ransoms.
Spain and Germany famously do.
So what happens?
You go to the Middle East, they found out you're American, they run.
You're Spanish or German, they laugh, kidnap you, and beat you.
dave landau
So, the one promise that people... Yeah, but in America we give them shows on Nickelodeon.
tim pool
But the point is, you go to the Middle East, you get kidnapped, you're an American, the only thing they can rely on is a bunch of JSOC guys jumping out of a helicopter and shooting their families and everyone in the room, because they don't care.
They're just going in there to clear the Americans out.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
So they're genuinely worried about capturing Americans.
ISIS wasn't, which was really scary.
But, famously, when I went through the heat training, they explained this, like, yeah, if you're European, typically they'll hold you for a long period of time, and even try and double the ransom because the countries just keep paying it.
If there is a cartel that says, you know what, they're executing our traffickers, let's kidnap someone's kid and force them to do it.
If the U.S.
says, well, gee, now we can't stop the traffickers because they're being under duress, that will just make them do it more.
dave landau
Of course.
tim pool
If we then say, I don't care why you're trafficking kids, You are facing the due process penalty.
Again, not offended that it's a penalty, but if that's the case, I don't think there's an excuse of, but they made me do it.
It's like, well, perhaps to a certain extent I can empathize with that, but imagine if the U.S.
government didn't allow it, and a gang or cartel, whoever, traffickers, kidnap someone's kid and say, now you will smuggle these people or we'll kill your kid.
They'll be like, they're gonna kill us anyway.
There's no point in doing it.
Granted, I understand there's a strong, there's a difficult question therein, threatening someone's child to force you to do it.
You might say, I'll throw my life away gladly for my, to save my kid.
So they might still do it.
Not an easy question, but I don't think, I don't like the idea of saying, well, you know, we, we can't because we don't know if they were duressed into doing it.
That's a really, really difficult question.
There's that guy with the bomb on his neck who, uh, what did he do?
He robbed a bank or something?
And then said, help!
dave landau
Yeah, they made him rob a bank, the pizza guy.
tim pool
And then his head blew up, or his chest blew up.
dave landau
Well, because there was no way to get the bomb off.
tim pool
And then, well, no, they didn't believe him.
They said, fuck you.
dave landau
Is that what it was?
tim pool
Yes.
They said, we don't, like, get out of here.
And they sat him down and walked away.
And then he exploded.
dave landau
Okay.
tim pool
They later came out and said he was actually in on it with the guys.
And the plan was to pretend.
I almost don't believe that.
It was a pizza guy.
dave landau
I feel like they grabbed him, pulled him in and put a bomb on him.
tim pool
And then said, go rob this bank and give us the money and we'll take the bomb off.
dave landau
Yeah.
tim pool
Anyway.
dave landau
Because it all added up to the fact that he was a pizza guy.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Anyway, Flagrant, was that sufficient?
unidentified
Yeah, the only thing I got, Dave, I saw you in Greenville, gave you some crappy t-shirts, but you and Derek absolutely fucking killed.
dave landau
Thank you.
unidentified
People should go watch your show for Seriously Live.
dave landau
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Congrats on New World, because certain people lost very fucking excellent talent, and it's awesome seeing you guys grow.
dave landau
Thank you very much.
I really do appreciate that.
unidentified
Did you give me the Disney shirts?
Yeah, the Magic Groomdom.
dave landau
Oh, dude, I wear those.
They're not crappy.
They're comfy.
unidentified
Really?
dave landau
Yeah.
unidentified
Yep.
Those came from the site.
Yeah, we actually made them.
dave landau
Oh, dude.
unidentified
I'm glad you like them, dude.
dave landau
I do like them.
Yeah, they're comfy, man.
I'm going to wear it on the show for you.
unidentified
Dude, I'm trying to get Our third party producer crapped on us with fulfillment.
So I'm working.
I've got a place.
We're just trying to get the machines because I'm going to go like direct to customer because I'm not going to deal with that again.
dave landau
Oh, right on, dude.
I thought they were funny, man.
And they are actually a comfortable fabric, which was nice.
Because sometimes people give you that, like, crunchy, harsh stuff, and you're like... Yeah, it's very starchy.
Yeah, and you're like, ugh.
And these ones are the ones where you're like, oh, this is awesome.
I'm gonna wear this around the house.
This is comfy.
ian crossland
Carrie Lake gave me the most comfortable t-shirt I own, but it says Carrie Lake, so I can't, like, wear it around unless I'm campaigning for her.
dave landau
You feel like arguing.
ian crossland
But I sleep in it.
Hey, Flagrant Trigger, do you have a website where you sell your shirts?
unidentified
Yeah, it's flaglerchickers.com.
We're just temporarily down because, again, that third-party producer just crapped out on us because we're a small business and we weren't bringing in the numbers of bigger businesses.
ian crossland
Thanks.
hannah claire brimelow
People should save it and check it out later.
dave landau
Will you tell me when you go back up and I'll rock it on the show for you?
unidentified
Yeah, we're going to try to crowdfund just to see if we can get some of the brunt of the startup costs out of the way.
But I'm just going to do direct-to-customer because that's just way better, and I know the work will get done.
dave landau
Cool, man.
tim pool
Right on, man.
Well, thanks for calling in.
unidentified
Thank you, guys.
tim pool
Have a good one, dude.
dave landau
Thank you.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
We're going to give Akrol a try.
Akrol?
hannah claire brimelow
Come on, Akrol.
tim pool
Akrol?
unidentified
Can you hear me this time?
Yes!
ian crossland
Yay!
Persistence.
unidentified
What up?
Can you hear me this time?
Yeah.
Yep.
Oh, good.
Sorry, it was a headset issue.
dave landau
Nice.
unidentified
Um, so, so you guys have mentioned a few times now, like the X app is going to be everything.
And, you know, you kind of mentioned also it's kind of getting creepy.
And then you mentioned the Chinese surveillance state and all this.
So I think, by the way, I'm the 3A guy that called in a couple of weeks ago, third amendment.
tim pool
Oh, right.
unidentified
Um, so I think there's another aspect of this, which is, do we have a reasonable expectation to not be observed by the government if we don't want to be?
hannah claire brimelow
Yes.
tim pool
The right to privacy.
unidentified
But it's hard, isn't it?
If you interact with these apps, we know that the government is giving this data.
For example, if I have an end-to-end encrypted app, if the government can break that encryption, should they?
ian crossland
No.
tim pool
That's a Fourth Amendment violation.
And they're violent in the Constitution.
hannah claire brimelow
Just because they can doesn't mean they should be doing it.
tim pool
They are evil people.
They are bad.
And, uh, there you go.
ian crossland
I kind of take another look at it.
I think, like, because it's happening anyway, like the Chinese, the Russians, they're all spying with satellites, that the CIA is like, fuck, we have no choice.
We have to... Doesn't matter.
tim pool
All evil.
hannah claire brimelow
No thanks.
tim pool
Evil.
ian crossland
Whether or not... I don't know if it's evil.
tim pool
It is evil.
unidentified
I was gonna build upon that.
I was gonna say the government thinks of privacy as almost like relative to the current society.
So privacy meant something different in 1900 than it does today.
Which, I don't know if I agree with that, but they're like, oh, everyone's got cell phones.
Of course, you know, we gotta, you know, listen in.
Sometimes make sure you're not a terrorist.
hannah claire brimelow
It reminds me of an argument, like, it's already happening, so you should be okay with it.
But, like, I'm not okay with it, and the government doesn't have the right to do it.
tim pool
The argument they're making is that by you going to Twitter, it's like you walking out of your house and walking into a Starbucks.
Anyone can watch you do it.
Therefore, they have a right to track all of that.
The difference is tracking your internet, you know, tracking all the internet stuff is a picture-perfect view of your life, and the average person thinks when they're online, they have privacy.
That's the issue, and they're saying, well, you know, we can do whatever we want.
dave landau
Well, aren't you supposed to?
ian crossland
Have privacy?
dave landau
Yeah, on the internet.
I mean, regardless, like, shouldn't you?
Like, the same as any phone company, the same as anything else.
Like, the idea is you should have it.
tim pool
Yeah, the idea of phone tapping is kind of... I suppose the issue is people assumed because they were in their home by themselves, no one could see what they were doing, and it's never been true.
dave landau
Oh, I know it's never been true, but isn't the idea that it should be?
tim pool
Well, I mean, I think people have a right to choose to make themselves anonymous or private on the internet.
dave landau
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't think it should all by default, like, that would be like saying, should everybody who walks out of their house put on a cloak to conceal their identity?
dave landau
It's like... Well, of course, yeah.
tim pool
No, you have the choice to.
The government shouldn't be allowed to spy on you and follow you around.
Like, if you were leaving your house and going to Starbucks every day and the cops were following you and spying on you, at a certain point, I think it violates the Fourth Amendment to follow you in public.
dave landau
Yeah, I think if you go to the Starbucks and rob it, it's different than if you go to the Starbucks and talk to your friend and they hear that conversation.
tim pool
What I'm saying is the government's argument is that once you're in public, it's not a Fourth Amendment violation because anyone can see it.
But that only makes sense if it's a reasonable observation.
That is...
The cop driving down the street saw you cross the street into the Starbucks.
And he says, I saw him.
If they're following you every day, they're violating your privacy.
I'll put it this way.
If a guy goes to a woman's house and watches her every day, he will be told to stop.
It's stalking, it's harassment.
No, she's in public.
I'm like, yeah, right.
So the cop shouldn't be able to do it either.
And that pertains to the internet as well.
ian crossland
Until we have, though, I think, a global governance of some sort, we won't be able to use law as our backstop for, hey, get out of my bedroom, because they're just going to do it.
Other countries' governments, they don't have amendments constitutionally and stuff like that, so they'll just take what they can.
That's a weird time to be alive, having to rectify.
hannah claire brimelow
Who would exactly do the job of your government to say, hey, our people have rights and you can't violate them?
But under- Like, you can't be a foreign government saying that you're doing stuff on our soil.
Like, that's a whole argument with, like, TikTok, right?
Like, we don't consent to our data being given to the Chinese Communist Party, and TikTok, because of the way it's structured and where it's based, has to turn over user data.
And so it's the job of the U.S.
government to say, like, no, you can't just have the right to it.
ian crossland
But under threat of what would be my question?
Like, we're going to blow your satellite up?
You're listening satellite.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, right now, it's like, you can't operate here.
So, at threat of their business, but I'm down with satellite.
tim pool
If someone is spying on people without their consent using a device, yes, remove the device.
ian crossland
But, well, I, if you can, but like the whole spying apparatus is like dudes in closets with headphones on, watching and listening to the internet.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, So unless you're gonna kill everybody doing it, but I don't think that'd even stop it from happening.
So it's like if someone installs a device onto a deep-sea cable to steal data, we should disable that device.
ian crossland
Yes, I agree.
tim pool
Anyway, Kroll, did you want to elaborate?
Is there anything else?
unidentified
I think there's a subtle distinction that's missing here, which is it's not that the government is investigating.
It's they're just scooping it up just because.
For example, in the Stasi in East Germany, they had maybe one in four, maybe one in three people informing the government, which means somebody inside your house is doing it, which means you have no reasonable expectation of any kind of privacy at all.
And as Americans, I feel like we should.
These devices shouldn't be listening to us inside our house or somewhere that we don't want them to.
But they do.
You know what I think is going to happen?
tim pool
All that data that NSA has been collecting for a couple decades, all they have to do is go to ChatGPT, take one cable to another cable and say, learn.
And ChatGPT will know quite literally everything about everyone in every possible way.
Minority Report.
unidentified
horrifying.
tim pool
It will then instantly go through all the data and build predictive text models, financial
planning models.
It will become some kind of super intelligent structure.
unidentified
Minority Report.
tim pool
They may have already done it.
hannah claire brimelow
Yep.
Thanks, I hate it here.
unidentified
No predict crimes.
tim pool
Yep.
It'll say something like, you know, John Smith has a 98.6% chance of robbing a liquor store at this date at this time.
And then a cop will get dispatched arbitrarily.
They'll be like, hey, we got an indicator saying we're going to send you out to 53rd and 7th.
I'm like, you got it boss.
Then he goes there and the guy is seen walking.
The guy sees the cop and then turns around and doesn't rob the liquor store.
unidentified
And all John did was, like, a cupcake.
A photo of a cupcake.
It, like, won't even seem like it's connected, but the algorithm will be like, nope, nope.
Cupcake.
People who like that.
They rob banks.
dave landau
I want a time machine.
ian crossland
To go to the future or the past?
unidentified
Past.
dave landau
I just want to be able to smoke at a Burger King.
unidentified
Nice!
dave landau
Those were the days!
unidentified
That'll be your VR experience that they craft for you.
dave landau
Just enjoying it.
I'm wearing really baggy pants.
tim pool
Anyway, Akril, did you want to wrap up that last thought, or I don't know if I... One last example.
unidentified
So this country could not have been created if the British were listening in on the Founding Fathers, right?
I think they expected to be able to do that with privacy.
And that's kind of what I'm getting at.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, we were really anti-spies.
tim pool
I agree.
dave landau
Yeah, you're right.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, we were really against them.
Same thing.
Keep going.
Sorry.
unidentified
Shout out.
Seamus did a great job.
And I also want to say to Raymond and Bert and everybody in the Discord server, it's really great.
I hope everybody gets in there.
It's really a lot of fun.
tim pool
Right on!
Alright, man.
We really gotta get to SomeGuy, so thanks for calling in.
unidentified
Thank you.
tim pool
Yeah, we got SomeGuy on the line.
We will see you next time.
Alright, last but not least.
SomeGuy!
Just SomeGuy.
unidentified
Good evening, everyone.
I hope everyone is doing well.
Real quick, Tim, I hope the coffee shop is coming along and will be open soon.
I think that's a phenomenal idea.
So I hope things are going quickly there.
There you go.
tim pool
Go ahead.
You were really loud.
ian crossland
Nice, rich bass in your voice.
unidentified
That might be my mic.
I apologize for that.
Good mic.
Okay, so my question is for the Penismaster.
I'd like to know, I've been going to comedy clubs for a long, long time, and really, I'd say over the last five, six years, I've noticed a steady decline on really all levels, both from talent, not you, of course, you're always great.
Thank you.
The show, the quality's going down, the quality of the staff's going down.
I haven't seen an open mic night in, I don't know, five, six years.
So my question to you is, what can we do to revitalize the comedy industry, get new blood in there?
And most important, you know, how can we get back to people being able to bomb and be able to grow?
And just one last thing I want to dovetail.
What do you think about those little bags?
I think those are a really good thing.
I don't know if you've used those at any club yet.
Um, but I think they're pretty cool.
dave landau
What are the bags?
unidentified
Um, so I've only seen them at a couple places.
ComedyWorks uses them.
You have to put your cell phone inside of a bag that they lock up.
dave landau
Oh, right, right, right.
unidentified
And so, you keep the phone, but you can't pull it out.
And, you know, I think that would really help for a lot of these struggling new comedians.
Because, you know, you bomb now, it's all over the internet, and you're done.
So how do we get people to be able to go through those growing pains?
You know what I mean?
dave landau
I think a large part of that, too, is self-inflicted, though.
I think a lot of comics have to realize there needs to be a long time.
There's sort of this instant idea of success where you're putting up the sets where you are bombing, and I think that's a huge problem.
I think we have to go back to actually enjoying the journey and not the destination, because the benefit of being a comedian is it's all a journey.
There's no destination.
There's just the idea of you growing and getting better.
Nobody's ever perfected it.
I mean, we can not argue, but you can have a discussion about who you think the best was, but there's actually no real answer to that.
Anybody could be the best.
The best one could be born today.
You know, there could be somebody coming up right now.
I think that is a part of it, too, is people are afraid to bomb.
They are afraid to be honest on stage.
And the ones that you see that are really honest on stage and really good on stage aren't necessarily the ones that get the most notoriety.
So, you know, and when you look at Netflix, a lot of these places, it's why I like I don't know why I'm blanking on his name all of a sudden, and I've even done radio with him, but he's really well known now.
Has a mustache.
Andrew Schultz.
unidentified
I'm going to see him next week!
dave landau
He's great!
Yeah, he used to go on our radio when we were in New York, and he's a guy who, you know, kind of, you know, he sold his special and ended up buying it back because what he's doing is true to him, and the reason why he stands out is because it's authentic.
And I think when you see these comics that are putting out something that's truly authentic, you start seeing people migrating towards them.
And I think that's what people have to do, is kind of learn how to become that.
You're not that overnight.
You have to learn it.
You have to learn the rules before you break them.
And I think that's really what we're missing, is people do want that sort of instant gratification.
Go out there, learn to bomb, learn how to do it.
Go up on stage.
I'll tell you who's doing a good job, honestly.
I went to Rogan's Club in Austin, and he does kind of cater to that.
And the room's really good.
It sounds good.
You have people showing up.
It's a hot room.
But you can bomb there if you're new, you know?
And it's going to hurt a lot more because the room's hot.
So if you're eating it, you're really eating it.
But I think the idea is people have to look at... They also have to look back.
And I think a lot of people don't look at comedy and the growth of comedy over the years either.
And that's something they have to look at is why is it what it is now?
And I just think it's about going up, learning to be unafraid, being interested in the process, and being vulnerable enough to be their own voice on stage.
unidentified
Yeah, I like it.
I love it.
Great, man.
dave landau
Yeah, and I appreciate the question.
You have a great radio voice.
I gotta tell you that.
unidentified
That's what everyone's saying in the Discord chat.
It's incredible.
hannah claire brimelow
If you are not on radio, please get there immediately.
unidentified
People say that to me all the time.
Well, that's perfect, then.
Let me end on this.
This is a question for anybody that knows the answer, and I'm pretty sure Dave's gonna, but I'm gonna throw it out there.
What is the velocity of an unladen swallow?
tim pool
African or...?
unidentified
What?
I don't know that!
ian crossland
You got him.
Turned his own question against him.
That's from Monty Python, by the way.
unidentified
Yes.
ian crossland
Hey, did Schultz... That was a good one.
I think that was our last caller for the night, but I want to ask you, Dave.
Andrew Schultz, did he just, like, was he working, like, workhorse in the background, all of a sudden, then he went on Rogan's show once, and then he became, like, world famous?
tim pool
No, that was me.
dave landau
Yeah, that was also... That's basically me.
Yeah.
I haven't been on it, but he's been on our show and stuff, and I've been at his club, and then...
I like him.
I think what he's done for comedy is really good.
I'd never- Yeah, Andrew would come on, like, Bill Shultz show in the morning was where I met him, and at the time he wasn't really uber famous, but you could tell he had a voice.
So I think he was kind of trying to go the route where they wouldn't let him.
Like, okay, you're waiting for the gatekeeper.
Where it's like, oh, I'm gonna let you on Conan.
I'm gonna let you on these shows I'm gonna let you you know, and the second that he stopped waiting and created his own thing is when he exploded So I think it was a mix of Rogan doing his own special and releasing it himself Putting out his own pod.
That's when he blew up was you yeah on his own route.
tim pool
You have to make something it's it's you know, everybody seems to think that When I was growing up, it's like, oh, I want to be in a band.
I want to get signed by a label.
I just need the scouts to be there or whatever.
Like this was when I was a lot younger.
unidentified
Me too.
dave landau
Dude, I did it for 15 years.
tim pool
You go and do the thing.
And then if your thing is good, people notice.
And then eventually someone comes around with money.
So, but I, I had a, uh, someone ask me just this past week.
They were like, Hey, I'm, I want to get started on YouTube.
What's your advice?
Like, how did you get so big?
I'm like, well, it's really easy.
You know, start making your content.
All right.
You know, you got to put a lot of work into it, get your channel going, then go on Joe Rogan and then you're done.
dave landau
Yeah, it's simple.
Just get on the biggest show ever.
tim pool
And then you win.
Yeah, get lucky.
dave landau
Yeah, it's all luck.
But there is a part of extreme hard work that you have.
You put extreme hard work into it, you drew attention, you drew attention enough to be on that show, and then you kept working, you kept putting out content, and you put out interesting content.
I mean, that's not something that most people are willing It is easy.
It is so easy.
unidentified
It is easy.
dave landau
I'll tell you how easy it is.
Go outside to places with a phone.
Interact with people in interesting and unique ways.
easier than that.
tim pool
It is easy.
It is so easy.
It is easy.
I'll tell you how easy it is.
Go outside to places with a phone.
Interact with people in interesting and unique ways.
Post those to X.
unidentified
You see what I did there?
tim pool
Yeah.
Post those to Twitter.
Boo!
Tag people in it.
Alex Stein has been skyrocketing because he goes and just does the thing.
And it was good.
And now he does more things and more things and more things.
So that's how I got started.
How did people learn who I was?
I was in Occupy Wall Street filming stuff.
And they're like, oh, that's that guy that filmed that thing.
And then I just started doing more and more and more stuff.
Andrew Schultz did his thing.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
And then people start seeing it.
That's the power of the internet, man.
You can do it.
hannah claire brimelow
And you guys all worked away at it.
You produced a ton of videos every day.
You're very consistent.
People know where to find you.
You did comedy.
You performed.
You kept going.
I think there is a level of...
You want it to be instant but if it doesn't come in the first six weeks you still have to continue forward.
You have to love what you're doing and then people will find you.
dave landau
I slugged that at like an artist like a moron for a long time and it wasn't that I wasn't making money but I completely ignored the video element.
I had students at Columbia 12 years ago put together an entire video package of how to succeed in YouTube and I was like But who watches that?
I'm stupid.
So I just kept going around, and then, you know, eventually it's like, oh, I'm on Last Comic Standing.
Then I get Letterman, but then the guy who books me on it gets fired.
So it's like, I would have all these big breaks, and they would all somehow end up, like, heartbreaking.
And then all of a sudden I was like, oh, I'll just go on this show, and I ended up on Ari Lange and Anthony Cumia.
Then I end up on Crowder, and then all of a sudden people hate me for it, for the right-wing aspect of it, and you start doing other stuff, and, you know.
And over it, I was like, I just don't care, so I just started posting my own stuff, and just being honest, and you know, that's how I ended up on, like, they're calling me the penis master, because that's how Ari Shaffir saw me and booked me on This Is Not Happening, and like, eventually, when you're just honest to yourself, and you stop caring really what everybody think, and you're just true to yourself, and putting out those videos, all of a sudden people see you, and you start making at least a difference to yourself, instead of waiting for somebody to go, Hey, we accept what you do now.
You kind of just have to accept yourself and put it out there.
tim pool
And take over.
Yeah.
Like Fox News's ratings are in the gutter.
You know, fuck them.
We're gonna grow and everyone else is gonna grow.
But we're gonna wrap up because we're way over time and I gotta go to bed.
So everybody, thanks for being members.
I'm back.
Thanks for staying with us while Seamus was hosting.
A lot of people had a good time.
Some people aren't as big of fans, I guess, but some people are really big fans.
So it may happen in the future if I ever take time off, but I'm glad we're able to keep things churning.
So Dave, thanks for hanging out.
It's been a blast.
dave landau
Dude, thanks for having me again.
I appreciate it.
tim pool
Absolutely.
Anytime.
And just to say it again, you guys as members are the only reason I'm able to actually go get my health taken care of.
Because before we had the members thing going on, if I didn't work, money just stopped, and that was bad news for, you know, for everybody, for the employees, for me.
But now because you guys are members, we have a consistent, you know, flow of income we can track.
So I really do appreciate you guys being members.
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