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June 29, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Affirmative Action IS OVER, SCOTUS Rules Program UNCONSTITUTIONAL w/Alex Bruesewitz
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tim pool
I would like to give a special thank you to the 45th President Donald Trump and the Supreme
Court justice picks because affirmative action has been ruled unconstitutional.
Affirmative action is a racist policy.
I stand firmly against it and I'm glad to see that the correct ruling was handed down.
We'll see where this goes.
Already these universities are trying to find loopholes and workarounds to keep using race as a pretext for your admission into these schools and it's
horrifying.
You should not be able to use someone's race to determine whether or not they're able to go to a
higher learning facility. Not that I'm a big fan of colleges as it is, but this is an amazing ruling
and we got to see how where it goes beyond just these universities. So it should be particularly
big news. So we're gonna be talking about that quite a bit.
We do have a bit of other news.
Donald Trump's response to this, as well as Dylan Mulvaney addressing the Bud Light fiasco.
That's right, because Bud Light will always be in the news.
So we'll talk about that, but I do think the affirmative action thing is going to be really, really big.
Plus, there's a story about a whole bunch of celebrities signing up for this petition from GLAAD to get basically anybody who disagrees with them banned from the internet.
A lot of celebrities are signing on to this list, so we'll talk about that and a whole lot more.
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The air is so insanely bad out here, it's indescribable.
Apparently, the DC area was rated one of the lowest air quality cities in the world, and today, I wake up, there is a white haze, so dense, it looks cloudy on a sunny day.
The light that's coming through the windows is red, and you can't breathe.
It's even right now difficult to breathe indoors.
We had to duct tape up the vents to make sure air is not getting in from the outside.
It's really, really bad.
And I came in the studio this morning to record my morning show, and I couldn't talk.
Literally couldn't do it.
I was trying to just force air out of my lungs, and I'm just like, I'm gonna go Lock myself indoors at home and then just try and get my voice in shape to do the show tonight.
And so here we are and doing a bit better, doing a bit better, but holy crap is it bad.
In fact, it's so bad we got a warning about our chickens and had to transport them out of Chicken City into a temporary holding facility that's indoors to protect them from the air quality, which is going to be just as bad tomorrow.
So I want to stress that.
Yo, it's pretty nuts out there.
I was driving back from grabbing lunch.
Normally, when you're driving through this area, Blue Ridge Mountains, you can see layers of mountains off in the distance.
You could not see any of them.
It was just a white wall.
That's how bad it is out here.
So, anyway, just to let you know how things are going on in that front, joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Alex Brusewitz.
alex bruesewitz
Great to be back, Tim.
Thanks for having me.
I'm Alex Prusiewicz.
Go to DonaldJTrump.com and get a not-guilty shirt.
Free my boy, DJT.
Did nothing wrong.
And it's great to be back.
tim pool
Right on.
What do you do?
alex bruesewitz
I own a political consulting company called X-Strategies.
I'm also a full-time Twitter troll.
We have a really good time on there.
Piss off a lot of people.
But, you know, it's The beauty of America, right?
You have the freedom of speech, and you can piss off whoever you want online.
tim pool
Right on!
Well, we'll talk about that.
So thanks for hanging out.
We got Seamus hanging out.
seamus coughlin
Good to have you back, man.
My name is Seamus Coghlan.
I make cartoons on a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.
We just released one today that I think you guys are really gonna like.
It's called The Pride Month That Wasn't.
I think that this Pride Month went abysmally for the alphabet community, and it's been entertaining to watch, so I turned it into a cartoon.
I think you guys will enjoy that if you go check it out.
ian crossland
Oh, hi, everyone.
Ian Crosland here.
Happy to be back.
It is a Thursday evening.
Let's roll this thing.
unidentified
Yeah, let's get to it, Tim.
This sucks.
alex bruesewitz
My nose hurts.
ian crossland
My mouth hurts.
alex bruesewitz
I'm really tired.
unidentified
I'm Serge.com.
I woke up sneezing today.
It was great.
seamus coughlin
Serge, I thought you were gonna say you were upset about affirmative action.
unidentified
I am.
It happened in South Africa in 1998 with the EE Act, and I've been dealing with it ever since.
ian crossland
It got installed in 88, 98?
seamus coughlin
I meant the Supreme Court decision.
Yeah, of course, of course.
unidentified
I've been obsessed with it.
tim pool
Let's jump into that story.
Alright, here's a story from TimCast.com.
Supreme Court finds affirmative action unconstitutional, says school cannot consider race during admission.
Chief Justice John Roberts wrote Harvard, and UNC concluded wrongly.
The touchstone of an individual's identity is not challenges bested, skills built, or lessons learned, but the color of their skin.
The court ruled universities and colleges cannot weigh an applicant's race during the admissions process.
The majority of the justices found affirmative action policies unavoidably employ race in a negative manner, involve racial stereotyping, and lack meaningful endpoints.
We have never permitted admissions programs to work in that way, and we will not do so today, stated the court.
Two appeals regarding the constitutionality of affirmative action have been appealed to the Supreme Court.
One brought by the University of North Carolina was blocked, 6-3, and one brought by Harvard University was rejected, 6-2.
Justice Katonji Brown-Jackson did not vote on the latter.
The ruling, released on June 29th, overturns a previous decision made in the Grutter v. Bollinger in 2003.
At the time, the Supreme Court found that race could be weighed as a factor in admissions because universities had a compelling interest in maintaining diverse campuses.
The Supreme Court is right.
What you need to understand very, very simply is that in order for affirmative action to work, the assumption must be that certain races are inherently worse than other races, which is just not true.
At least, I don't believe our government should be operating that.
I don't believe it, but I think the left absolutely does.
I'm seeing a bunch of tweets from people on the left.
The racism pouring out of these liberals' brains is insane.
These people are tweeting things about like, well, how will minorities succeed now?
Hard work?
And what do you mean?
I don't know.
ian crossland
They always succeeded.
tim pool
The same way so many other immigrants who have come to this country have succeeded by working really hard and making a better future for their children?
It's amazing, isn't it?
seamus coughlin
Well, it's incredibly infantilizing.
I've talked about affirmative action in the past.
I've even done an educational video about it.
And one thing I want to mention is, well, the obvious clear injustice with affirmative action, and the thing conservatives should talk about most loudly, is not the soft bigotry of low expectation, but the fact that white students and Asian students are kept from having positions that they have merited Because students who didn't merit those positions were given them on the basis of their ethnic makeup.
It is also true that these policies are not good for minorities or people in these communities.
So what will happen, and this is something Thomas Sowell's talked about, this is something we did a research video on for Freedom Tunes a while back, what happens is A black student will end up being placed in a classroom and in a school setting that is beyond his academic qualifications and so he'll end up dropping out more often because he isn't in a classroom that actually matches what his standardized testing scores tell us he's going to be capable of achieving academically.
So, for example, if you have a black kid who could get into a really impressive school, but not necessarily Harvard, and then affirmative action bumps him up and puts him into Harvard, the likelihood that he's going to drop out of Harvard is greater than the likelihood that he would have dropped out of the institution that he was more qualified to attend, and then he's less likely to get a degree.
tim pool
But to clarify, while you are correct in the context of their targeting minorities, what you're saying applies to literally any person of any race.
Yes!
If you take any person of any race Who scores low on an entrance exam, and then put them in a more advanced program, they're likely to drop from that program.
And so what these programs were doing was, one, basing the entire admission structure on the idea that certain races just inherently- and I mean it when I say inherent.
The left always tries to make the argument that when you're talking about race or crime stats, they're like, you think inherently?
No, no, no.
The pretext for affirmative action is inherent, because they're saying all people.
They're outright saying that if you are Asian, you can't come into this school because you scored this on this test, as if all Asians are the same.
So what ends up happening is, Latinos and black Americans Well, it's such a strange thing.
and probably qualify for some good schools and they'll say put them in an Ivy League
where they struggle, drop out, and are worse off for it.
seamus coughlin
Well, it's such a strange thing. If your concern is that there's not enough minority representation
in academia, then what you have to do is try to structure things so that they're going through
the public school system or whatever private school system is available to them in such a
way that they end up being qualified to attend these institutions.
You don't slap a band-aid over it by pushing them into institutions that they're not qualified to attend.
ian crossland
I think that the problem that Affirmative Action is trying to solve is Making up for the last 150 years of the black citizenry of the United States being descended from slaves, not having access to parental education.
Like, their great-great-grandfathers were, you know, slaves and didn't know how to read and write.
And then they have kids that, if the parent doesn't know how to read and write, you know, education's passed down a lot of times from the adult to the child.
So, they're trying to solve this, I guess you would call it a class-based I disagree.
because these people were treated as second-class citizens when they were
enslaved for in 1830. So it's trying to give these people now like push them
into the the level but I think I agree with you saying that you just can't
force people into higher education and expect them to succeed. I need to earn it.
tim pool
I disagree. I think you're giving too much benefit of the doubt to these
people. Since the 50s when we started seeing the rise of social programs
we've seen what appears to be something beneficial that causes harm.
Like Seamus is pointing out, any person who scores low, who is put into an advanced program, will likely struggle with it, and it will cause them harm.
I do not believe these people are ignorant of that fact when they have decades of data to show it.
I think many of these people are intentionally trying to cause harm because they're overtly racist.
alex bruesewitz
Absolutely.
And we saw all throughout 2020 that the left wants a race war.
They want to inflame division between the races and the classes.
And I think it's pretty sick.
And I think that affirmative action is one of the most racist policies that we've ever seen.
And DEI and race-based hiring is also In fact, racist.
People should be hired and accepted based on merits and not based on ethnicity or color.
tim pool
Two examples I'll give you, Ian.
One, there's a viral video of two white women vandalizing a black neighborhood, and two black women come up to them and say, stop destroying our neighborhood, and the antifa liberal women go, no, no, we're doing this for you.
The far leftists would go into minority neighborhoods and assist in the destruction.
I was there in Ferguson, and I'm asking myself, Why are you people destroying this black neighborhood?
There was a leftist who wrote an article after Ferguson in defense of looting and made the argument that they were looting these buildings, that black people were looting buildings because it was resistance to the machine that was oppressing them.
The reality?
The people who lived in the community linked arms to protect their businesses from outside looters.
So why are these people in the media lying?
Over and over again about it.
Perhaps it's because they're overt racists who know they're not going to be able to pull off these things if they come out and say, hey, their real plan is to hurt people.
They need to act like they're doing good.
Don't get me wrong.
There probably are a lot of dumb default liberals who think they're doing good.
But I think the people organizing this know exactly what they're doing.
alex bruesewitz
Absolutely.
And they're attacking the Supreme Court justices as the racist.
In reality, the people who support affirmative action are the racist.
But it's ridiculous to say that the Supreme Court justices are racist because they were appointed by the least racist president in American history.
A report by Reuters just came out and it said that Donald J. Trump is the only living president who is not a direct descendant of slave owners.
So Obama's a direct descendant of slave owners, Joe Biden's a direct descendant of slave owners, Jimmy Carter, the Bushes.
Donald Trump appointed the Supreme Court justices who helped overturn Roe v. Wade, therefore they are the least racist Supreme Court justices in America, in my opinion, and possibly, you know, in Reuters' opinion as well.
tim pool
I tell this story, I met this black dude who was anti-Trump, and we were having this discussion, this was in New York, and he said, Donald Trump is the least racist president this country has ever had.
And I was like, oh, that's an interesting thing to say.
Aren't you against Trump?
And he's like, yeah, yeah, look, Trump's still racist, but you got to admit he's the least racist president ever had.
And then I was like, well, elaborate.
He goes, yo, presidents own slaves.
And I was like, fair point.
Fair point.
So his point was Trump is better than we've ever seen, but there's still work to be done.
And I'm kind of like, OK, he was chill about it.
You know, I can respect that.
alex bruesewitz
Well, he shared the Reuters report the other day.
Trump did.
seamus coughlin
That was hilarious.
I thought it was hilarious.
I think it's like obviously a funny way to troll.
One thing that I found very entertaining is the reaction from a lot of Democratic politicians with affirmative action being overturned by the court.
So Gavin Newsom says they want to whitewash our nation's history.
They want to bring America back to the era of book bannings and segregated campuses.
We cannot let them.
AOC, well first I'll read you Elizabeth Warren.
She said an extremist Supreme Court has once again reversed decades of settled law and she goes on to bellow a bit more.
And then my personal favorite AOC said, if SCOTUS was serious about their ludicrous colorblindness claims, they would have abolished legacy admissions, aka affirmative action for the privileged.
70% of Harvard's legacy applicants are white.
SCOTUS didn't touch that, which would have impacted them and their patrons.
I don't even know where to begin with that.
AOC...
The court was not deciding on legacy admissions at universities.
tim pool
Well, Viva Frye makes the good point with the top comment saying 71% of America is white, silly.
So it's actually an under-representation at Harvard.
seamus coughlin
That's also a very good point, but it's like, well, the Supreme Court didn't touch that, and then also it was something no one expected them to touch that wasn't on the table, and then It would have impacted them and their patrons as if the Supreme Court that is unelected people are making these decisions because uh they're they're like bought and sold to make this decision that's why that why um they they decided to overturn affirmative action but didn't say legacy applicants were legacy applicants
So these are people whose parents went to the university.
Yeah.
alex bruesewitz
Well, it's important to remember that Elizabeth Warren lied about being Native American to get hired at Harvard, which propelled her to... You take that back.
tim pool
That's not true.
alex bruesewitz
She is one 1,024th.
tim pool
Native American, I believe.
alex bruesewitz
Of course she's defending affirmative action because, you know, she gamed the system to get a job at Harvard and then become, ultimately, a U.S.
Senator.
tim pool
What was it?
She was actually won 1,000th?
alex bruesewitz
Yeah, I lied.
I'm sorry.
Please don't sue me, Elizabeth.
You are Native American.
Won 1,024th percent.
tim pool
Well, no, no, no.
unidentified
Oh, no.
seamus coughlin
But here's what we can say.
Here's what we can say, the Cherokee Nation told her she could not call herself Cherokee.
Because what happened was, she got this blood test back that showed that she was a very, very, very tiny fraction Native American, and she said, see, this means I'm Cherokee.
That's like saying, well, my DNA test said that I have European blood in me, therefore, I'm Italian.
What are you talking about?
That's a much more specific claim, right?
tim pool
But she's like, she's talking about a tribe.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, so she's pointing to a specific tribe and saying, I have indigenous American DNA, therefore I can claim membership in this tribe.
That's not how it works.
tim pool
But it's more than that.
It's like saying, I have European ancestry, therefore I'm a British citizen.
seamus coughlin
Exactly, that's right.
tim pool
Yes, yes.
seamus coughlin
No, you're not.
I'm a British citizen.
My DNA test said that I'm 1,000th British, so I guess I'm a citizen now.
And the Cherokee Nation was like, No, no, no thank you.
tim pool
I can't believe she tried to pull that off.
seamus coughlin
Trump trolled her, is what happened.
alex bruesewitz
What's hilarious is that Elizabeth Warren is partially responsible for restarting a national conversation about why affirmative action is bad.
You know, President Trump started calling her Pocahontas, right?
And everybody's like, why is she calling her Pocahontas?
Well, she lied about her race and ethnicity to get a job at a school.
And there was a CNN interview that I shared this morning.
It was from 2017, where an admissions consultant was debating why we need to ban affirmative action.
And he predicted in 2017 that President Donald Trump will be the president to end it.
He's going to use the Justice Department to sue these schools, which he did.
He sued Yale.
And then he also said he's going to appoint three constitutional conservative justices who will overturn affirmative action.
And so that guy on CNN was a prophet.
But thank you, Elizabeth Warren, because she also deserves some credit in overturning affirmative action due to being exposed as a liar.
tim pool
Look at the New York Times wrote.
They said, "...breaking the Supreme Court rejected affirmative action at Harvard and UNC.
The major ruling curtails race-conscious college admissions in the U.S., all but ensuring that elite institutions become whiter and more Asian and less black and Latino."
ian crossland
This is what I want to talk about in a minor defense.
seamus coughlin
Oh my goodness.
ian crossland
Because what I'm going to say might come off as a defense of affirmative action.
I used to hate that.
When I first learned about it in 1993, we were teenagers in high school, and we'd sit around and talk and be like, wait, if I apply for a job and I have a better score, they're going to hire a black guy that's not as good as me?
And they're like, yeah.
My friends are like, yeah.
We're like, that's reverse racism.
Which turns out, years later, we start to realize it's actually just racism.
Why don't I get in?
But OK, here's the situation.
There's 100 of us.
We all live on a city block.
Us.
A hundred years ago, super racist, the black people weren't allowed to go to school.
They were kept as slaves.
So their kids didn't have access to education.
They had really crappy food, really small.
Their brains didn't develop as much as they had poor nutrition.
Now, 30, 40, 50 years later, their kids, same thing.
They didn't have a lot of access to food, nutrition.
Now it's today and they're like, we're going to hire the smartest people on the block.
Well, it's the people that have ancestrally the best access to nutrition and education that are going to be considered the best.
And so, naturally, the people with the healthiest ancestors are going to get the crack at it.
And what they're trying to do is to balance it out.
So, like, sorry your ancestors didn't have access to education.
tim pool
But that's like the fairytale version of what they're doing, which is not what they're doing.
They're hitting it with a mallet.
ian crossland
It's not working.
tim pool
The way you solve this is class-based.
So what's actually happening is you have impoverished areas with a higher density of black people.
What the left does is they look at the neighborhood, see black people, and then think the race is the reason, which is racist.
They then start saying insanely racist things.
But there's also Latino, Eastern European immigrants, white people living in these areas as well.
So here's what ends up happening.
Because the people who can only see race, who are racist and have always been racist, think the solution to the problem is more racism, they go into a neighborhood that may be 70% black and 20% white, and they say, all of the black people here are going to get a special benefit so that we can put them in better institutions.
And then their neighbors, their equals and their peers, who are not black or who are Latino or white or whatever, are sitting there holding empty bags saying, what about us?
Then what happens when you have people of different racial backgrounds and the state comes in and gives money literally to one racial group?
In these areas, I'll tell you what happens.
The racial group that doesn't get the benefit They keep engaging in the crime they typically engage in,
but they target the people with money.
So you end up with other people being like, hey, this race is attacking this race.
All it does is make racial tensions worse.
The real solution is, in your analogy, 100 people living on a block,
you know, 80% of them are working at the best institutions and are wealthy,
and they say, we want to make sure everyone's got an equal opportunity, what do we do?
I know, those of a certain income bracket.
Then they walk into the portion of their street where it's a higher density of black and Latino for historic reasons, and they say to everyone there, including the poor white people, the poor immigrants, the poor Latinos, the poor Asians, Doesn't matter what your race is, we're here to help all of you.
ian crossland
So would it be... I think it would still be a bad idea if Harvard were to let people in that were poor at a higher rate with the same test scores.
Maybe not.
tim pool
No, it's about letting people in who are poor with the appropriate test scores, but waiving certain fees and giving them scholarships.
The idea is, if you should be here, we're going to make sure you can be here.
Just because you're poor doesn't mean you deserve to go to Harvard.
But if we want to help break the cycle of poverty, we find the diamond in the rough in these areas and we say, you have real potential, and the only thing holding you back is that your parents won't have the money, we're going to cover those costs for you.
That's how you actually solve these problems.
And if the left actually believed what they believed about historical racism and institutional racism, that policy right there would disproportionately help black and Latino individuals.
You would not need affirmative action.
So, I can only conclude, either they're stupid or they're lying, and the reality may be a mixture of both.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, yeah, I think that's right.
I'll also add this.
Part of what affirmative action does is it re-centers our thinking about the purpose of having a career, the purpose of going through an academic institution, the purpose of being admitted to a college.
The reason that society sanctions these things, the reason society gives a person the position of privilege and esteem that it is to be a student at one of these universities is because they believe that that student is going to be able to contribute, and the reason they have Uh, good evidence to believe that that student's gonna have something to contribute at the level that they're being given that honor is because of their test scores, because of their academic history, these things.
The purpose of social positions is not to make the person in the social position feel special for having the social position.
The purpose of a social position is to find what we can get from other people.
ian crossland
What's a social position in this?
seamus coughlin
Just like, I mean anything, a job, a position as a student, right?
With anything, anything, anything that society carves out and says, this is what this person does, we're either going to hire you if we're an employer, or we're going to elect you if you're someone running for office, or we are going to give you this seat at our university if we're admitting you.
The whole purpose of it is, this is somebody who if we give this position to, will be able to contribute to society in a way such that it'll make it better.
Let's give this person this position so they can feel special.
tim pool
Here's the other thing.
Imagine there was a neighborhood that was lower income.
And these leftists are like, these poor people, they should go to college.
Okay, for what?
Go to college for what?
What, what, what, what job or career or plan?
So they go into this poor area and they say, we want to give you guys college.
And the poor guy says, this area is working class, industrial, factory.
We are some of the best in these areas.
The amount of money generated from these factories is lower than the Ivy League areas.
That doesn't, just because they may make less money doesn't mean everyone should just be in college.
Some, some, like, What we want to do is we want to maximize people's talents and abilities.
We want to make sure that everybody's getting their best opportunity.
So if someone is from a neighborhood that typically is working class, but they clearly show an affinity for the law, we want to make sure that they have an opportunity to reach that.
The left just says, we want more people of race to be in institution, which just makes no sense.
seamus coughlin
What they're really saying is we want less white kids and less Asian kids at these institutions.
tim pool
Well, it's the Asian thing for the most part.
You know, I've talked to leftists about this quite a bit, and I always end by saying, after they agree with all of this, alright, fine, have it your way, but you have to be the one to look the poor Asian kid in the eyes and say, I'm sorry kid, you don't get to go to college because you look too much like that guy.
That's their argument.
I'm sorry, that little kid looks like that little kid, therefore only one of them gets to go to college.
How does that make sense?
alex bruesewitz
I was talking to a friend of mine who he's a white guy who's married to a Mexican woman and they have a son together and he was looking for private schools in New York City and his son's complexion looks more like his white father's than it does his Mexican mom's and they said actually you know You don't look the part.
We can't support you financially and give you some breaks because you don't look the right color.
And so even though he's half Hispanic, which would technically qualify him, but he doesn't look Hispanic, he doesn't get a lower rate for tuition as the Hispanic kids.
And so it's just like, People are getting fed up with this.
I think the affirmative action being overturned is going to be incredibly popular with the American public.
I think a lot of parents, a lot of white parents, a lot of Asian parents, they've kind of held their tongue because they don't want to be called racist by their woke liberal friends.
But these college campuses are turning into hellholes as well.
I had a family member who graduated from the University of Wisconsin-Madison, so I went to the graduation in May.
And some student on campus, just some random student, got caught using the n-word.
It was a white girl who used the n-word.
So, ten minutes out of the graduation, two black girls got up on stage, welcomed by the dean, and she lectured, these students lectured about how racist the University of Wisconsin-Madison is, and how much progress they still need to make.
And so these girls are lecturing the entire graduating class and the 50,000 parents and family members that are in attendance about how racist the community is and how much University of Wisconsin sucks and they just let it happen.
I'm like, what the hell is going on in these places?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, well, there's a kind of self-flagellation that every left-wing institution has to partake in.
We're so racist, we're so horrible, we're so sorry, that type of thing.
I mean, they almost feel as if it's a kind of—and I shouldn't say they almost feel this way.
It is.
I mean, it's just a virtue signal, right?
It's just a virtue signal.
alex bruesewitz
It was ridiculous.
I mean, like, you spend all this money going to the school, and your kid's graduating, and the school forces you to listen to how racist your kids are and how much the school sucks.
seamus coughlin
Your kids are horrible people.
Thank you for the money.
We'll send you a letter asking for donations.
tim pool
Take a look at this tweet from, uh, Eleanor Johnson.
So, uh, let's see.
She is the editor-in-chief at the Free Beacon.
Harvard to turn to essays, it says in email.
This is Harvard basically declaring they intend to ignore the Supreme Court ruling and use loopholes to keep being racist.
unidentified
Watch out, Harvard.
tim pool
The email says, Dear members of the Harvard community, Today, the Supreme Court delivered its decision in Students for Fair Admissions v. President and Fellows of Harvard College.
The Court held that Harvard College's admissions system does not comply with the principles of the Equal Protection Clause embodied in Title VI of the Civil Rights Act.
The Court also ruled that colleges and universities may consider in admissions decisions an applicant's discussion of how race affected his or her life, be it through discrimination, inspiration, or otherwise.
We will certainly comply with the Court's decision.
You see what they're saying there?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, absolutely.
tim pool
They're now going to make everybody write about their race and then they're just going to choose people who they think fit their woke ideology.
seamus coughlin
And it's going to be, I mean, this is going to be very difficult to enforce, right?
Because I certainly, I don't advocate for lying in any situation, but a lot of people are just going to lie.
A lot of people are going to write their essays about how, like, they were black or they were Hispanic or whatever when they were white so that they could get into the institution.
Some people have actually done that before.
Some people have done that by saying they're Native American.
I'm not sure if you've heard of this.
alex bruesewitz
A missions consultant who went on this CNN interview, he is Indian and he said he was black so he could get into Harvard Medical School.
Oh wow.
And he's become one of the leading advocates against Overturning Affirmative Action.
He said, this is wrong.
I should not have been able to get accepted just because I said I'm black.
And now he's an admissions consultant and helps people.
I don't know if he helps people game the system or whatever he does, but he went on CNN and he said, we need to overturn Affirmative Action and has become one of the leading advocates in it.
tim pool
Well, I suppose the question is, how far will this go?
Because Affirmative Action isn't just in universities.
alex bruesewitz
It's everywhere.
The Press Secretary of the United States of America is simply hired because she's a black lesbian woman.
tim pool
So the vice president... That's not overt affirmative action.
That's an opinion made by a lot of people who think it may be the case.
I'm talking about specific and overt examples in the public where they outright state it.
Like for actual public jobs, they actually put in the descriptions, hey, we hire based on these criteria.
seamus coughlin
Irish need not apply, basically.
ian crossland
The vice president, Joe Biden, said, I'm going to get a woman of color.
seamus coughlin
Affirmative action.
This is an interesting point, right?
Because we're told affirmative action is good.
We're told the concept of diversity hires are good.
But if you ever insinuate that someone was a diversity hire or that they're in their position because of affirmative action, that's evil.
tim pool
Why?
seamus coughlin
If affirmative action is good, why is that a bad thing to say?
tim pool
Corinne Jean-Pierre may be the worst press secretary we've ever seen.
I would say she is the worst in our lifetime.
Jen Psaki was really good at what she did.
She was really good.
You don't have to like her.
I think she lied a whole lot, but she played to the press.
That's what she did.
ian crossland
Really?
unidentified
Yes.
ian crossland
I thought she was smarmy.
seamus coughlin
She's going to circle back on that, bro.
tim pool
Exactly.
seamus coughlin
That's her job.
She knows it.
tim pool
She knows it.
I despise it.
Even when it comes to Spicer, Kayleigh McEnany did really, really well because she had the book debunking the lies in the media.
That is a fantastic way to handle it.
As for Karine Jean-Pierre, she's the worst.
Here's the thing.
She was hired by the Biden administration for who knows what reason.
Saying that she was hired for affirmative action is just an insult.
As far as I know, there is no formal declaration that they were seeking out to hire a person based on these criteria.
It's a weak argument.
seamus coughlin
I have no idea about her with Kamala.
tim pool
We know they do it, but Kamala was an elected position.
So even there, Joe Biden saying, I want diversity doesn't meet the same level.
No, what I'm talking about is in our schools, in our fire departments, in our police departments, they explicitly say race as a criteria.
That needs to end.
If leftists want to be racist, and then publicly declare they're racist, and then when it comes to hiring, we have to make that argument, we'll make the argument.
But right now, affirmative action extends to a whole bunch of public institutions, directly and overtly, where the government literally allows you to take race into consideration for hiring for public jobs.
That should not be allowed.
And this should be the ruling to shut it down.
I don't know if it will be though, because this is specifically about university admissions.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, no, I mean 100% I agree with all that.
I think that there is a difference between a job posting saying we are going to hire people based on these racial characteristics and someone saying they're going to pick a VP based on those credentials.
I just think both are really scummy and slimy and stupid.
ian crossland
I agree with you.
tim pool
It's remarkable to me that there are... I just don't get it.
Are people... the average person is just stupid and doesn't care?
Yes.
ian crossland
The average person thinks that if a square peg in a square hole means that it succeeded.
tim pool
Here's how polling works.
I have a question for you, Seamus.
seamus coughlin
Yes, hit me.
tim pool
Actually, let me ask Ian.
Ian, do you think universities should be allowed to reject an applicant based on their race?
ian crossland
No.
tim pool
Alright, that's one vote in favor of opposing affirmative action.
Let me ask you another question, Ian.
Do you think that universities should be allowed to approve applicants based on race if it helps bring diversity and give opportunity to underprivileged groups?
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
Bring the best people, man.
I do not care what you look like or who your dad was.
tim pool
This is how the pollsters do it.
You go to someone and say, should Harvard be allowed to let minorities into the school to help end inequality?
Everybody says yes.
And every pollster goes out and says, do you think Harvard should be allowed to reject a candidate based on their race?
Everyone says no.
You see how that works?
ian crossland
Yeah, because if you're allowing someone to come in based on their race, that means you are rejecting everyone else based on their race.
tim pool
Quite literally.
That means that in order for that to exist, two applicants come in, an Asian one and a black one, and you say, too many Asians, not enough black people.
That's how it works.
One would be rejected.
So this is how pollsters Operate.
And this is how the public operates.
The left uses this language manipulation.
Gender-affirming care.
Where did that come from?
Affirmative action.
It's called racist!
Race-based admissions.
Race-based hiring.
Do you believe we should have racist criteria in job applications?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Yes or no?
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
Not unless it's like an acting part.
seamus coughlin
Aside from casting for a movie.
Look, if you're gonna do a Netflix reboot, right?
But, I mean... It's true.
ian crossland
You know, the way you look is important in acting.
Not even that?
tim pool
Nope.
Anne Boleyn has to be played by a... Is that what happened or whatever?
Like, I don't know.
ian crossland
Anne Boleyn was a black girl?
tim pool
They did a reboot and they're doing another movie with like a mixed race woman.
ian crossland
I'm all about that, but you shouldn't have to.
alex bruesewitz
Well, didn't some, like, Academy Awards or something say you have to have, like, a diverse or minority group represented as, like, one of the top characters in the movie, or you're not gonna be, uh, eligible for one of our awards?
unidentified
I got it.
seamus coughlin
Well, that's how you know if a movie's good or not, though.
tim pool
Do you wanna- do you wanna, uh, take the lead role in my movie about Shaka Zulu?
seamus coughlin
Absolutely.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
Would he be the British dude that fought Shaka?
seamus coughlin
What's that about?
I just signed on to it.
tim pool
Shaka Zulu, dude.
African Warlord.
ian crossland
That would be a good movie, by the way.
tim pool
Crazy General.
seamus coughlin
Hold on, we can cast anyone in any role.
It doesn't matter.
tim pool
Yeah, you'll be Shaka Zulu.
seamus coughlin
I'm an actor.
Is this animated or live action?
tim pool
Live action.
Live action Seamus Coghlan as Shaka Zulu.
ian crossland
You'll play the young Shaka, though, like the five-year-old.
seamus coughlin
I feel like I'm too old for that role.
ian crossland
Nope, never.
Doesn't matter.
Anybody can play anything.
seamus coughlin
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
He was merciless, dude.
unidentified
In a good way, I mean... Brutal, dude.
ian crossland
This is the Zulu... I mean, as a warlord leader, like Genghis Khan style, this guy was one of them.
alex bruesewitz
Is that a surfboard he's holding?
ian crossland
That's a shield.
Those dudes were wild, man.
The Jaguar?
tim pool
What was that weapon that was like a curved stick with a ball at the end of it?
unidentified
The crazy stuff, dude.
tim pool
Anyway, he was like a powerful warlord, but my point is simply...
Their ideology makes no sense.
If we're doing a period piece from 1500s Europe, they'll say, who cares if it's a black or Indian person playing white characters.
But you're not going to cast Seamus Coghlan as Shaka Zulu.
seamus coughlin
That would be racist and stupid, right?
That would just be racist and stupid.
But when you do the exact opposite of it, it becomes non-racist and smart.
ian crossland
I thought we were, like, bypassing the race thing in 2006.
I was like, man, we really have started to see eye to eye.
Brain to brain.
I was actually getting to a point where I'd just look at people, I'd see their eyes, and everything else was just kind of this gray, black, white, green, blue mesh of color and shade, and I'm just, like, interfacing with their brain.
Something happened, and I guess Obama pushed a little bit too much racism, subtly, when he was in office, like, the black kids, the black kids, and you're like, dude, it's just, it's not... Seamus is gonna wake up from the simulation, he's gonna be a black woman.
seamus coughlin
Why are you picking on me?
Why is it always me?
alex bruesewitz
How's that picky of you? What's wrong with Blackwood?
seamus coughlin
No, not that he's... because Tim is insinuating...
No, he's not.
tim pool
You know, Ian, bringing up like the AI stuff, you know, if we do go metaverse AI and all that stuff,
people are going to identify as whatever they want.
Like Rachel Dolezal.
If she was in the metaverse, you would meet her.
seamus coughlin
She identifies as anything, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, as a black woman.
And she's a white woman.
So you will have, like, white men, morbidly obese white men who identify as thin black women will do that.
And you'll have an Asian guy who identifies as a Mexican dude and stuff like that.
People will just decide to present these ways in the AI, in the metaverse.
seamus coughlin
Well, you know, it's interesting because we'll joke about people like Rachel Dolezal, right?
And we'll talk about how ridiculous that is, but, I mean, really, race is actually on much more of a spectrum than sex is.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Right?
seamus coughlin
You can actually be half one and half It's the other.
If you have a black mother and a white father, then you're going to be half black and half white.
So those boundaries are actually not as well pronounced as the boundaries between the sexes are, and yet we'll say because of some infinitesimal number of people who have confusing anatomy or birth defects that that means that sex is on a spectrum.
It's ridiculous.
tim pool
Yeah, like if Rachel Dolezal is 1% black, then is she allowed to identify?
This is the interesting question.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
No, no.
It was CollegeHumor, I think, who did this.
seamus coughlin
Yes, yes, yes, the panel of Asians, if you can identify as Asian.
tim pool
Yeah, so it's a full Asian, a half Asian, and a quarter Asian on a judging panel, and a guy walks in who's an eighth Asian, and they're trying to determine what he's allowed to do.
It's like, is he allowed to compliment Asian food?
And it's like, yes, but not if there's anyone there who's more Asian than you.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
Then you have to ask first.
And then at the very end, the last gag is, a guy walks in and he's like, my great-great-grandma was black, and they're like, you're black.
Very different.
ian crossland
This is the melting pot, the United States.
It's got to be intentional.
This push for racism has got to be intentional.
It wasn't supposed to be this way, man.
And it wasn't like this in the early 2000s at all.
There was the Arab racism.
That's probably what really started it was 9-11, fear the Arab kind of mentality that they got forced on us.
2003 was crazy hyper racism.
People were banning Muslims and Christians.
tim pool
100 years of Democrat rule in Chicago and it is extremely racially segregated.
They have done nothing to stop it.
They keep saying they're doing things to help people.
All they're doing is making it worse.
seamus coughlin
Yep.
tim pool
And New York isn't as bad as Chicago, but very, very similar in terms of racial segregation and how the police handle all this stuff.
alex bruesewitz
I mean, during the 2020 Summer of Love, college campuses started having... They said, if you come back to school in the fall, we will have black-only dorms.
In 2020, they have segregated dorms, because they're showing how non-racist they are.
It's insane.
We've done a total... We've gone...
Completely backwards.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story, because we were getting a little bit into AI, and I do have this story pulled up.
From the GMG Union, this is the, I believe it's the Gizmodo Media Group.
This is big news, check it out.
And the Onion Union.
Our statement on GeoMedia's plan to implement AI content just days after laying off newsroom members.
Ladies and gentlemen, I'm not a big fan of Jezebel, Jalopnik, Kotaku, Deadspin, et cetera, Gizmodo, but I stand with them on this.
Now, personally, I think it's fantastic if these people ultimately lose their jobs, because I am...
Remorseless and ruthless in, the left-wing lies perpetrated by these individuals are horrifying.
The reality is, A.I.
Jezebel is 50 million times worse than some random feminist complaining on the internet.
They write, On June 29th, GeoMedia informed editorial staff that'll begin a modest test of A.I.
content on its websites.
The A.V.
Club, Deadspin, Gizmodo, Jalopnik, Jezebel, Kotaku, Quartz, The Root, and The Takeout.
As the unionized editorial staffers of GeoMedia organized the Writers Guild of America East, we are appalled by this news.
The hard work of journalists cannot be replaced by unreliable AI programs notorious for creating falsehoods and plagiarizing the work of real writers.
Just take a moment.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, no, journalists don't do any of that.
Dude, they've literally found perfect replicas.
tim pool
That's right.
Yeah, and for lower cost.
Our newsrooms have spent decades building trust with audiences.
Sure.
Introducing computer-generated garbage undermines our ability to do our jobs, erodes trust in us as journalists, damages our brands, and threatens our jobs.
Okay, they're firing you, though.
They don't care about your jobs.
They don't care about you.
Now, here's what I gotta say.
Man, that's a tough one to read.
These people have no trust.
They don't.
These news websites have been sold end over end because nobody reads them!
They produce an article to get viral clicks, someone will read it and then leave and not come back.
They have no core base.
That's why they're struggling and failing.
Timcast, for instance, is doing better than ever because we actually have an audience and we care about our audience.
We built up trust with our audience by trying to be trustworthy.
They don't.
But I gotta say it.
If these websites implement AI, it will be worse than you could imagine.
Because the AI will be unchecked, and it will be just pulling a bunch of random garbage from the internet, compiling it into a paragraph that's not real, and people will believe it.
And where it gets worse?
It's not about one website doing it.
It's the fact that all of these websites, the AI they get, will be reading the AI articles they write!
Gizmodo will AI generate an article that Jezebel's AI will read.
It will then compile that AI article into a new article which Gizmodo will then read.
And then make an article which Jezebel will read.
You get my point.
If the AI models are only learning from other AI news websites, the end result is going to be a whole bunch of fake news worse than you've ever seen.
Now, I can also say this.
There is a positive possibility.
If they do this, they are essentially destroying themselves.
These people are getting fired, they're losing their jobs, it's the end of these organizations, and the AI garbage content will only work for a couple years at best.
So maybe, we say, if they want to set a fire that destroys them, why should we intervene?
My view is, that fire will spread everywhere on the internet, and eventually you'll see some conservative be like, Here's an article from conservative news dot, you know, news or whatever, that says Donald Trump does backflip, and the source is, you know, conservative trends dot com, whose source is Fox News, and Fox saw it on Gizmodo, and Gizmodo wrote the whole thing up fake from an AI.
It will be too confusing if we allow this to happen.
My fear?
It's going to happen anyway.
So at the very least I can express I oppose it, but I think it's coming anyway.
ian crossland
I'd like to have some of these reporters, journalists, whatever you want to call them, on the show.
These people that are being fired.
As you were talking, Tim, I started to think of Jesus talking about, bring me your huddled masses.
You're tired, you're poor, however he said it, but bring them.
They're allowed here.
seamus coughlin
I think you're talking about the Statue of Liberty?
ian crossland
Didn't Jesus say, like, bring me the weak among you, the sick, the poor?
unidentified
No, that's not Statue of Liberty.
ian crossland
Statue of Liberty, okay.
I'm not a Christian.
But what- didn't Jesus also acknowledge, like- Well, he cared for the poor and loved the poor.
That's what I'm talking about, man.
So these people are- they're about to be cast aside into the dregs of society.
They're being fired from an already, in my opinion, crappy institution.
I think it's- now it's time to accept, like, to be there for them.
tim pool
You want to hire them?
ian crossland
Tell their stories.
No, I want to have them on and hear them complain about what happened to them.
tim pool
I'll hire them.
seamus coughlin
Absolutely.
tim pool
Ooh, boy.
Yeah.
It's called the Goku Method.
Well, the thing is, I wonder... Goku, uh, see, listen, what you gotta understand, this is a very important live lesson.
When Vegeta tried to destroy the Earth, okay, and was fighting with Kakarot, Goku and the Z team converted Vegeta into one of their allies, and now he's actually one of the most popular characters.
ian crossland
It's a very Abraham Lincoln method, yeah.
tim pool
That's how you gotta do it.
So we gotta hire them and turn them into good guys.
seamus coughlin
Do you think there's anyone behind the scenes at these places who have become disillusioned and actually would like to work here?
Because I think there's a possibility.
There's got to be at least one person at one of these places.
tim pool
I am half-kidding, but I am willing to bet a good portion of people who work there are only saying what they think they have to say to get by in a city.
And if someone came along and said, how would you like to own your own house, have an acre of land to yourself, and not have to worry about this anymore?
I'm willing to bet a bunch of them would say, sure.
ian crossland
Oh yeah.
tim pool
It's like, okay, you can move out to Western Maryland and West Virginia, where you can buy a house for substantially cheaper than a condo in New York City.
You'll have land, you'll have a car, you'll have clean, fresh air, and no one will come down on you for saying the wrong thing.
ian crossland
That's the real revolution, is the people that are waking up realizing that careers and livelihoods will be stripped by artificial intelligence and a technocracy going to take their power back, like creating their own jobs and their own communities.
That's how it's going to work.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I mean, look, and I said this before when we were talking about another media outlet we won't name going under, and I understand this, no one here has technically gone under, but there's a potential for it.
I hope that these people find more productive work than writing lies for a living.
alex bruesewitz
Well, at least hope they have a great awakening.
I mean, I'm sure a lot of these news networks, they celebrate if a coal mine shuts down or a factory gets moved overseas to China or to Mexico or wherever it may be.
And, you know, I'm not excited about the, with AI rising.
I don't, I personally don't want AI to replace truck drivers because driving truck is a top profession for men who don't graduate high school or just have a GED.
And so I don't necessarily want journalists to lose their jobs, but a lot of these journalists have cheered on other industries like coal miners because of the environmentalists in the journalist newsrooms.
They hate coal, they hate oil, and so they cheer every time a pipeline gets shut down or something like that and tens of thousands of people are put out of work.
But hopefully they use this as an opportunity to be like, you know what, maybe I'll stop writing cheerful articles about these real working-class Americans losing their jobs.
seamus coughlin
I don't think they will ever stop hating real working-class Americans, to be honest.
But here you are.
I wish it happened.
tim pool
But it doesn't matter.
Let me tell you a story, right?
It was Brian Krasenstein recently put out a tweet about Libs of TikTok and a feud ensued.
And he shouted us out saying he wrote, Tim Pool wrote the most fair and correct assessment of what happened with the story.
It was actually Chris Bertman, our writer, who wrote the story up.
And our intention with TimCast News is literally just to tell you what happened.
I don't care if you agree or disagree with Brian Krasenstein.
We've had him on the show.
Disagree with him on a lot of things.
Agree with him on some things.
I think we had a good conversation.
You know, he's a liberal guy.
Chris Burtman wrote the story as it was.
Krasenstein tweets, he's like, I can't believe it!
He's like, it's Tim Poole who's writing the honest- Listen.
Maybe that will, you know, turn a little lightbulb on for the Krasensteins.
If you are reading TimKast News, you are getting our best attempt at just telling you what's happening.
We are not trying to trick you or manipulate you or help anybody win an election.
That's how you get it done.
The problem is these people at these companies like Gizmodo, Jezebel, whatever, they're lying for clicks.
Why?
Well, their bosses tell them to.
Not so much overtly.
They say, hey, you're not pulling your weight.
Your articles aren't doing very well.
So what does the writer do?
Chases the algorithm to try and figure out what gets the most clicks.
TimCast News does not exist to generate revenue.
It exists because we want there to be some good, effective journalism out there.
Be it Elad Eliyahu on the ground in New York capturing that viral video that took over the internet for the past week, the We're Coming For Your Children thing, or an article by Chris Bertman explaining just what the feud was to the point where Brian Cranston is like, wow, thank you for being honest about what happened.
It's not like it's a positive story about him.
It's just we're not lying about him.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
We're not going to make money off that.
And we don't need to.
We just want there to be a source for news that does a good job.
News, I don't think, can be a big money maker.
I think it's gotta, like, so that's basically what we do.
I'll stress this.
When you become a member at TimCast.com, understand that your membership helps support the news, the writing that we do at TimCast.com, the news reports we do, and journalists like Elad Eliyahu on the ground at these marches just filming what they're saying.
Elad didn't put out a video and say, I can't believe they would say this, these people are disgusting.
He literally just tweeted, Marchers say X. Fact statement.
And then everybody was shocked by it, it created this big hubbub.
That's the point of doing good news.
Of doing, not good news, but doing journalism right.
These people are in it for the clicks and the revenue.
You can't run a business that way.
seamus coughlin
I'm curious to see how these AI algorithms, when they start writing articles, are going to try to test the algorithm to figure out what goes viral.
That's going to be very interesting to see.
And also to see how quickly AI is going to be able to crack that code and figure algorithms like this out.
tim pool
It's gonna be... that's why I've described the AI apocalypse as people walking around dressed like
cop corn on the cob, turning on a TV and there's nothing but corn commercials, and then you're
going on the internet and everyone's phone is shaped like a piece of corn and all anyone talks
about is the new corn that just came out. The reason being, the AI will latch onto something
it thinks is popular, force it, and then create a cycle.
Like, it will create a self-fulfilling prophecy of popularity.
ian crossland
It'll know, like, if this article goes up at 3... 3.17 PM, it's more likely to get views if we posted an article about corn yesterday at 1.17, and so it'll start...
Pre-confluencing these behaviors to try and manipulate humans to be at the right moment at the right time to see the stuff.
But I do agree that it's not... For-profit news is kind of funky anyway.
It was never really supposed to be about making money.
Or maybe it was, I guess.
When they started newspapers, they were all for-profit.
tim pool
Yeah, I mean it was a service early on.
There's an old newspaper I was reading at an antique shop, or I can't remember where I got it from.
It's like a bulletin.
And the news is something literally like, you know, Bill replaced his front door.
It was like the news was literally just like what the neighborhood was up to.
alex bruesewitz
Yeah.
tim pool
And as the world got bigger, the news got bigger.
seamus coughlin
Dude, I bet Bill wasn't happy.
You know, when newspapers were just about what was going on around the town, people were like, I don't think everyone needs to be in my business.
They don't need to know about that new door.
It would be like- IRS is going to start wondering how I got the money for a new door.
Just shut it down.
tim pool
Literally, the news would be, like, on the front page, it would say, John's Shoes selling a new size 9 model.
You know, we talked to him about it, and it's, like, seemingly innocuous, but this is what mattered, and you're like, you read it, and you're like, oh, I'll go check that out, I'll go downtown, and you'll see what's up.
ian crossland
In a way, it was a simpler time, but those were also the times when you'd get a letter in the mail saying, come, you're going to fight a war that you have no idea what's going on about, and you'll likely survive, and then you wouldn't.
seamus coughlin
And we ain't going back till it's over over there.
ian crossland
Now we know what's going on in the world, we can say no a year, ten years beforehand and change the course of war as a populace.
seamus coughlin
I wonder though, so I think it's good to be informed, I think it's good to know about these things, but then you wonder, especially at a broad level, when people aren't focused on local issues and are looking more at national politics, how much A person can really affect.
I think knowing more about what's actually going on in your own neighborhood with your own school board and your own local elections would probably be way more productive in the long run.
ian crossland
Yeah, like building a balloon and floating a balloon, both are important.
Like the building of the balloon is the local structure, structural organization, but once you've got that down, you gotta learn how to float the balloon, which is geopolitics.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I just don't think we have the inflating of the balloon.
I was gonna say I don't think we have the inflation down, but we have the inflation down.
I just think we haven't reached that point where our local politics are as together as they should be.
ian crossland
Yes, not enough people know how to build their own structural balloon, and so they're screaming and trying to grab the one that's already there and control it, but you've got to build your own.
tim pool
Here's what I think.
For no reason, I think everybody should move to Berkeley County, West Virginia.
seamus coughlin
Why?
How come?
ian crossland
Just because.
tim pool
Move to Berkeley County, West Virginia.
seamus coughlin
This is not financial advice.
tim pool
If you're planning, we welcome y'all as neighbors.
unidentified
Yeehaw.
I love it.
tim pool
I'll just say that Jefferson County is the Harpers Ferry area and then just to the west is Berkeley County.
Jefferson County is based and Berkeley County is cringed.
And we need some good neighbors to come and help make West Virginia great again.
So as we're seeking to, you know, obviously we're building our studio.
The reason I bring this up is because we're talking, you know, in terms of local politics, people really don't pay attention.
And so, I'll give a shout-out to AG Morrissey, because last night we were saying, like, where's the action being taken?
And he's not the guy for this in West Virginia.
Some states, and at the federal level, the AG is in charge of a lot of this.
The AG in West Virginia isn't as much, so it's not necessarily on him, it's on the DA.
But my understanding is that Berkeley County is, surprisingly, fairly woke.
And so all that really means is the people of West Virginia, especially Berkeley County, who we know for a fact are not on average lefties, have not done their civic duty and gone and voted and paid attention to what was going on at the local level and they have allowed For instance, child drag shows for children happen in their jurisdiction.
Jefferson County banned it.
Berkeley County is allowing it to take place.
And I really doubt the DA will actually do anything.
But, you know, we'll see.
I think if more people move out there...
alex bruesewitz
And Morrissey's running for governor.
I think he's going to have tremendous success in the upcoming primary.
I think he's a phenomenal AG.
He's been a leader on fighting the woke issues.
You know, the state of West Virginia divested from Black Rock before any other state.
So you know, everybody focuses on how Ron DeSantis in Florida divested, but Riley, I
believe, yeah, Riley Moore, the state treasurer, and Morrissey, they were the first state to
And so I think he's going to be a great governor as well if he gets the opportunity.
ian crossland
Riley Moore is awesome, man.
He's been on the show a couple of times.
He was just here a few weeks ago.
And I gotta say about Harper's Ferry, West Virginia, one of the most beautiful cities I've ever seen in my life.
unidentified
Seriously.
ian crossland
It's like a small San Francisco, probably what it was like in the 1860s, right around the Gold Rush time.
It's like, just buildings that have been leveled to the ground.
I would love to live in Harper's Ferry.
I've kind of got my eyes and my focus on Harper's Ferry right now.
And if it's coming out woke, whatever, I don't care.
I will transform that city.
I will be there for those people.
I want to be part of the local community and the local governance.
Wow, what a place to live with the divergence of those two rivers.
seamus coughlin
It's beautiful.
It really is very beautiful.
alex bruesewitz
And the real estate prices out here are incredible.
I know the governor, the current governor and some state legislators, they wanted to make West Virginia zero income tax.
And if they end up doing that, I mean, I would move here in a heartbeat.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, property values will definitely jump if they do that.
But it's sad.
You see this happening in places like Harpers Ferry where it's like this beautiful little town.
tim pool
Not Harpers Ferry.
It's illegal in Harpers Ferry.
seamus coughlin
What are you talking about?
tim pool
Jefferson County is where Harper's Ferry is.
They have specifically outlawed drag shows.
seamus coughlin
Oh, no, that's not just what I'm talking about.
Ian, you mentioned it being woke, but you'll have these... Oh, maybe it's not.
ian crossland
Maybe I had that wrong.
seamus coughlin
No, no, no.
But you'll have these... But, you know, you'll go there and see pride flags and stuff.
I mean, you have these, like, beautiful little pockets of the country that a lot of left-wing people move from big cities to and then start to fill up and hang their flags everywhere.
tim pool
But they're allowed to do that.
seamus coughlin
I love it.
I mean, you're allowed to purchase a place where you want to, it's just ironic because they're the people who complain about gentrification and people being displaced, but then they're fine filling up these conservative little areas and pushing the original culture out.
tim pool
I will say this too, because I looked it up, and according to WesternUnion.gov, it does say that the Attorney General is responsible for state criminal law.
So, playing a critical role with regard to state criminal law, prosecuting on behalf of the state.
But apparently, the argument I'm hearing is that this is going to come down to the county DA, as regards to having this lewd and lascivious behavior in public involving children.
So, my view is just that You know, I bring this up, one, obviously it's personal to us because we're investing in the area and building in the area, but if people don't pay attention to their local politics, don't be surprised when MAGA country, West Virginia,
ian crossland
You know what I noticed Obama used to do is jog.
Jog around the city.
I don't know if he did it a lot when he was president.
Yeah, and I used to do that in LA.
You want to talk about getting in touch with your community, jog around the streets, jog around the blocks, just jog by people's houses.
Sometimes you see them and you wave at them while you're jogging.
It's awesome.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm more concerned about, are you paying attention to who's running?
seamus coughlin
Not just who's jogging.
tim pool
Not just who's jogging.
And if you are not voting in your local elections, don't be surprised if one day you wake up and there are adults walking around thrusting their naked bodies at children, and then when you call the police, the police say, D.A.
He yeses it's fine.
alex bruesewitz
Well I'd like to give a shout out to 1776 Project PAC.
They've been raising more money than any other group to help elect good conservative school
board candidates across the country and they're winning at incredible rates.
And then also President Trump just introduced a new policy that he'd like to implement where
you allow parents to vote on who's the principal of your local school.
ian crossland
Oh, neat!
That's great.
alex bruesewitz
And so like, you know, what happens now is like a woke superintendent in a big, you know, city or something like that, they are the people that are trying to identify who the next principal is.
But like, I think the parents should have a say in who is in charge of each school across the country.
tim pool
Well, let's do this.
Let's jump to this next story.
We got this from Daily Mail.
Take a look at this.
Google drops its sponsorship of Pride and Drag Show after hundreds of workers signed a petition calling it a direct affront to the religious beliefs and sensitivities of Christians.
What is this?
Seamus?
I thought you guys were being oppressed?
It's a war on Christians.
seamus coughlin
Listen, we're pushing back.
We're saying, we're done!
We're finished!
No, I mean, obviously, Christians are one of the groups that you're allowed to hate on in America, and as it turns out, they're getting kind of sick of it, and they're starting to actually stand up for their values.
It's a beautiful thing to see, and I'm very proud of all of these people for standing up and saying something, because one thing we've said on this show countless times is that if you're in one of these positions, If you're at one of these companies and you're too afraid to speak up, the problem is only going to get worse.
So thank you to everyone who signed this open letter.
tim pool
But I also think we're finally starting to see conservatives take the advice that, for one, I've been saying for a long time, and that's use their own laws against them.
It is illegal to discriminate on the basis of gender, sex, race, religion, national origin, etc.
So when they announced they're doing this, this is what I was saying about that kid.
The kid in Boston or whatever who wore the shirt that said there are two genders.
And they were like, you gotta take off the shirt.
It offends people.
They should have immediately said, okay, we are countersuing for the school to remove anything referencing pride because it offends Christians.
And now we're seeing it.
These Google employees were like, hey, you're discriminating against us based on religion.
That's illegal.
And they, what did Google do?
I don't think Google cares about Christians.
I think they're worried about lawsuits.
They'll lose them.
seamus coughlin
Dude, it'll be like Easter and then their little Google graphic will be some insanely obscure Marxist-theorist birthday or something.
I mean, they don't care about Christians at all.
alex bruesewitz
Well, I agree with you on that, but I think a lot of these companies are starting to wake up.
The Bud Light boycott was incredibly successful, the outrage on Target.
And another exciting thing is that conservatives are not just able, you know, we're not just boycotting these companies now.
They're taking their dollars and shopping with their values.
And you're seeing marketplaces.
You had Michael Seifert on last night from Public Square.
The dude's crushing it.
He's got like a million daily or monthly active users, tens of thousands of businesses from all across the country on his app, Public Square.
And Americans are like, I don't want to give my dollars to these companies that hate my guts.
I want to shop with my values.
I'm going to support a local business in my community that says they respect me and respect my values.
And so it's a good step in the right direction.
But like, I agree with what Seamus is saying.
You go onto Google on Easter and there's nothing, but if you go onto Google on Juneteenth, it's the biggest celebration in the history of the world.
seamus coughlin
Or it can be like a Christian holiday and they'll find a way to honor something else instead.
It's ridiculous.
ian crossland
I want to know more about this story.
What did Google actually pull support from?
tim pool
They were going to have a drag show.
They say Google dropped its sponsorship of a San Francisco Pride event.
The tech giant sponsors a series of LGBT events across the U.S.
annually, and this year, the headline event was due to be a pride and drag show at Bo Gay Bar, featuring popular performer Peaches Christ.
But employees noticed Google removed the show from its internal events page after a petition was launched opposing the event on religious grounds.
ian crossland
Well, it sounds like they did it because the guy, the performer, named himself Christ.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, they're like directly and clearly mocking Christianity.
tim pool
So if you live in L.A.
File a federal lawsuit over the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence performing at Dodgers.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
And it's like, if you want to do a drag show, fine.
You probably shouldn't have kids there and it shouldn't be done in the stadium.
But you want to bring on people to explicitly mock someone?
A group of people?
Sorry, those are your laws.
You can't do that.
ian crossland
So I suppose a drag show doesn't necessarily upset Christianity, but it's calling yourself Christ that upset Christianity.
seamus coughlin
Well, drag shows upset Christians too, but I think in order to put together an open letter that says there's religious discrimination specifically, it obviously helps that it's an open mockery of Christianity.
tim pool
Yeah, drag shows probably bother Christians for a lot of reasons, but not as Christians.
seamus coughlin
And they don't necessarily... Or, well, even as Christians, right?
Like, Deuteronomy says a man's not supposed to wear a woman's clothing or a man's clothing.
tim pool
Right, right, I understand that, but my point is, if a guy puts on a dress and crazy makeup and dances on stage, he's not intentionally trying to attack Christians.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying.
I mean, the fact that this guy was specifically singling Christianity out gives them the grounds to say it's religious discrimination if the company we work at funds this or sponsors this.
ian crossland
I was thinking about Shakespeare a lot lately because they used to wear drag.
The women weren't allowed to perform, weren't allowed to be actors back then, so all the women would be played by men in drag.
But it was widely accepted.
I don't know how grotesque they would get on stage.
I don't think there was a lot of simulated sex in Shakespeare.
unidentified
I think it's a bit different.
tim pool
This is culture war winning.
This is Google of all organizations backing off of a Pride event.
And it's not the first time we've seen something like this.
Seamus actually put out a cartoon today that it's been a very bad Pride month.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
They haven't been getting what they've wanted.
alex bruesewitz
Starbucks pulled back.
unidentified
Right.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
And then in James Garden, the woman looks at her phone and all the logos are changing back to normal.
But yeah, after like a day or two, these companies are pulling away from this because regular people are saying, not interested.
alex bruesewitz
I didn't see all the companies change their logos from their normal logo to their pride logo this year.
tim pool
Are you changing your picture for MAGA month?
I will be, absolutely.
On July 1st, everyone's profile pictures have to be changed to an American flag version.
alex bruesewitz
But Sally, use your blue check for a little while on Twitter.
tim pool
If you change your picture?
alex bruesewitz
Yep.
unidentified
What?
alex bruesewitz
Be careful.
ian crossland
I've heard that too.
Or your name.
alex bruesewitz
Add the American flag to your bio.
You lose your verification.
No, no, no.
tim pool
Change your profile picture to be the same one, but with a background of an American flag.
alex bruesewitz
If you change your profile picture, you lose verification.
ian crossland
It takes about three days to get it re-verified.
It took me about three days to get it re-verified.
Yeah, you still get it back.
seamus coughlin
What do you love more, that checkmark or your flag?
ian crossland
Who needs a checkmark when you've got America?
tim pool
We're corporate verified, so I think that wouldn't matter for us.
ian crossland
They might fast-track you.
tim pool
Because we're an approved organization with Twitter.
alex bruesewitz
You know what?
I'm gonna do it anyway.
ian crossland
I believe you're right though, Alex, that it is a policy that if you change your name on Twitter or your profile picture, there's a day or there's a set amount of time where they've got to re-verify you.
They don't charge you money or anything, they just need to make sure you do something offensive.
tim pool
The way it works for organizations, we just give someone verification, and you're verified instantly.
alex bruesewitz
Well, did you see Congressman Wesley Hunt, and he is the head on the program, he's introducing a resolution in Congress to make July American Pride Month.
tim pool
MAGA Month.
alex bruesewitz
And so, MAGA Month, American Pride Month, maybe get the idea from your show.
But, you know, it's going to be a congressional resolution, and so if anybody disrespects the law, well, you've got to hold them accountable.
tim pool
June is American Greatness Month, and so what was happening was all of these organizations were changing their corporate logos to rainbows to symbolize God's covenant to the earth.
So it was actually, you know, they're all Christians.
seamus coughlin
It's just a long game.
tim pool
It's a long game.
No, but, you know, I was saying this for a while.
I think, Seamus, I think you should fly a rainbow flag, and I think Christians should march at their protests with rainbow flags.
seamus coughlin
We just have to make it abundantly clear this is ours.
You took it from us.
tim pool
I would recommend that you take the actual rainbow, the full colors, in God's covenant and fly that flag so it is somewhat discernibly different but kind of similar.
The point being, do you really think the left Based on how they operate tribally, is going to defend their use of it?
They're gonna run screaming.
seamus coughlin
Oh, the left's gonna claim that Christians appropriated the rainbow from the LGBTQ community.
tim pool
They'll stop flying the rainbow flag.
They'll change it.
seamus coughlin
Do you think so?
tim pool
Absolutely.
You'll be like, we're totally, you'll respond to them, hey, that's really cool that you have a rainbow.
That's our symbol and it's been for thousands of years too.
seamus coughlin
Stole it.
tim pool
We don't even say that.
Just be like, we're gonna fly a rainbow flag too.
Then when they go and march, all you gotta do is when you see a guy with a pride flag,
be like, hey Christians.
Look, no, no, no we're not.
Be like, look at that, it's Christofascists.
unidentified
They're trying to take the country over and force their values onto us!
tim pool
If you're not Christians, why are you flying God's covenant flag?
It's not the pride flag.
seamus coughlin
That's one of the deadly sins.
That doesn't line up with his covenant.
tim pool
The rainbow is the symbol of God's covenant.
It's a Christian symbol and has been forever.
ian crossland
Are there seven colors of the rainbow?
Is that right?
unidentified
Yeah, I think uh... seven virtues in Catholicism.
seamus coughlin
Uh, yeah.
tim pool
Seven virtues?
ian crossland
Seven virtues, seven colors of the rainbow.
seamus coughlin
Oh, so the seven deadly sins.
ian crossland
It's broken into seven now.
That's a holy number, too.
Seven.
tim pool
Are there seven virtues?
Like inversions of the seven deadly sins?
ian crossland
Yeah, there's seven sins and seven virtues.
Each one has a like, like chastity and lust are like opposites.
seamus coughlin
So the seven heavenly virtues.
ian crossland
I would like to get a prism and uh, blast some light behind me and split it into seven colors behind me.
I'm not, I don't want to actually fly a flag behind me, but I'd love to get that rainbow Visage behind me, that'd look cool.
tim pool
I just don't understand why Christians have given up on that symbol.
seamus coughlin
Well, you know, I think because Christians weren't flying rainbow flags around before the alphabet people took it.
tim pool
But still, I mean, it's crazy to think that for thousands of years the rainbow was a symbol of Christianity, and then 20, 30 years ago, Yeah.
Fifty years ago, really, but, you know, popularized in the past couple decades, all of a sudden now the rainbow is a symbol of pride.
ian crossland
How did it become a symbol of Christianity?
seamus coughlin
Well, because after the flood, God sent a rainbow as a sign that he would not flood the world again.
ian crossland
Okay.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
ian crossland
So it's like the sign of the end of the storm, just in general?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, that's a way of putting it.
I guess that's a way of putting it.
It's like a promise, specifically in this instance, like a promise that he would not flood the world again.
unidentified
Like God's covenant with the earth?
tim pool
A lot of people are upset about that.
unidentified
About what?
seamus coughlin
The fact that they stole it?
Or that he won't flood it again?
Because I get it, yeah.
A lot of people are like, well, you know, who am I to question?
tim pool
It's like, bro, I will build the boat, just let me know, Len.
Yeah, the subreddit NoahGetTheBoat.
And it just, it shows people doing horrifying things.
Dude, watch any random, like, I don't know, world star hip hop video out of New York late at night, and you'll just be like, it's time to build the ark.
seamus coughlin
Is it raining?
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
I think we're passing through the Taurid meteor storm stream again, what is it, every 23,000 years?
I don't want to miscalculate things.
unidentified
Really?
ian crossland
But apparently, yeah, apparently the last time the Earth was flooded was when we were passing through the Taurid meteor stream.
They call it the Taurid because it's when we are viewing Taurus, the constellation, is when we're passing through the meteor stream.
And those are the meteors that peppered the North American ice shelf and the North Asian ice shelf.
Oh yeah, look at that.
And apparently we're going to be passing through this again, or are passing through it right now.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, September.
ian crossland
It's amazing, this confluence of events, how things are coming full circle, you may say.
tim pool
It peaks in November, so you better have your boat built by then!
unidentified
Oh boy.
ian crossland
Yeah, let's pray that we don't strike one of these, because it's madness and chaos out there.
But there isn't a magnetic field, you know, there's a repulsive mechanism that Earth has, I think, that is working in synergy with us, as long as we don't piss the planet off.
And I'm not like a climate change activist.
seamus coughlin
I was going to say, hold on a second.
Where are we taking this?
ian crossland
I do want to clean up the earth, though.
Because there's a way.
If we knock out our magnetic field with pollution or something, or like nuclear weapons, we very might get hit by outer forces.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story here.
So, uh, Matt Walsh tweeted earlier that, uh, we're winning.
We're winning.
And that all the left has left is censorship.
I believe he is correct.
ian crossland
He's correct.
tim pool
In this post from GLAAD, it says LGBTQ celebrities and allies call on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, TikTok, and Twitter to stop the flow of anti-trans hate and malicious disinformation about trans healthcare.
True allies do not profit from anti-LGBTQ hate.
Y'all are losing!
It's not gonna happen.
Sorry.
The fact that Google just cancelled a Pride event shows your cries are falling on deaf ears.
So I'm not going to read the letter because it's stupid, but they're basically like, anybody who says we're wrong is actually hateful.
seamus coughlin
They've been saying that forever.
tim pool
Look at all these people.
seamus coughlin
It's been their, like, one thing.
tim pool
Alan Cumming.
ian crossland
Oh, he's a great actor, man.
Boris and Goldeneye, dude.
That guy's awesome.
tim pool
Alison Goldfrapp.
Who's that?
seamus coughlin
I have no idea.
Amy Schumer!
We have to do it.
We have to do it.
tim pool
If Amy Schumer says so.
seamus coughlin
I just don't think that there's any way around it at this point, boys.
tim pool
Alright, who else we got here?
Billy Eichner.
Who's that?
ian crossland
Oh, Billy Eichner.
He just did the rom-com.
The gay rom-com.
tim pool
That bombed.
Nobody wanted to watch.
And I'll say this about his movie, Bros.
Just simply put, if you make a movie whose target demographic is .04% of the population, don't be surprised when it sells tickets to only .04% of the population.
seamus coughlin
Actually, do be surprised and call everyone a homophobe.
tim pool
That's what he did, didn't he?
seamus coughlin
That's right.
tim pool
Well, I don't know if he actually did, but it bombed, and they were like, it's not fair, something was wrong, it should work.
alex bruesewitz
Dillard Mulvaney's on there, believe it or not.
ian crossland
Oh, look, Bella Ramsey, she's like 20.
alex bruesewitz
That's shocking, I'm surprised to see Dillard Mulvaney.
tim pool
It's a cult.
Judd Apatow.
unidentified
Cal Penn.
seamus coughlin
The thing is, like, I don't think it's possible for any of these names to disappoint me, you know?
ian crossland
What if you saw your own name on there?
seamus coughlin
I'd be like, wait, how did that happen?
ian crossland
I'll be seeing myself out.
tim pool
Mae Whitman, that's disappointing.
She's the voice of Katara in Avatar.
ian crossland
What was the letter?
I don't really want to read through all of it.
tim pool
They want us banned.
ian crossland
For trans, for not supporting child sex changes.
They call it health care in the letter.
I understand the position.
Not everyone agrees that cutting young children to sever parts of them is necessarily health care.
tim pool
They appeal to authority and say, well, the AMA says so.
But my point the whole time, which has not been refuted by a single person, other than your science is not real science, even though it is, is that you have several studies showing desistance without intervention is over 60%.
seamus coughlin
Dude, that study needs to be- It's more than one!
tim pool
It's multiple studies!
seamus coughlin
Yeah, and the Netherlands started doing this in 1990, basically before... I mean, not just basically, but before any other country, and they've found that the suicide rate doesn't decrease.
So, I mean, either the left has to say that Europe's medical system, and particularly the Netherlands' medical system, Nordic Europe's medical system, got it wrong, and America's evil corrupt capitalist system got it right, or they have to admit it's nonsense.
tim pool
Here's my point for these people.
Let's use the lowest possible interpretation of desistance studies, 60%.
If 60% of kids who are dysphoric receive no intervention and then go on to lead normal lives, why give them intervention if there is a 60% chance you will subject them to something which has a high rate of suicidality?
It literally makes no sense.
The odds are leaning towards let the kid grow up.
At the very least, go through 14 or 15 years old should be the minimum before they even consider doing any kind of social whatever.
Because if a child is dysphoric and you do literally nothing, it's actually upwards of 98% of kids desist.
They don't detransition!
I'm saying if they never receive intervention in any way, they go on to lead normal lives.
seamus coughlin
And not only that, but these numbers are from before we saw the massive spike in trans-identifying youth.
So this was before every other kid started calling themselves non-binary, which means now the desistance rate is almost certainly going to be much, much higher.
tim pool
The funny thing is, like, I guarantee you not a single one of these individuals knows anything about this.
seamus coughlin
Of course, they don't know anything about anything!
unidentified
Right.
ian crossland
About these systems.
alex bruesewitz
Dillard Mulvaney?
seamus coughlin
Zoey Deschanel.
Now that just breaks my heart.
I didn't expect that one.
ian crossland
Zoey.
unidentified
Oof.
seamus coughlin
I knew something was going to hurt me there.
tim pool
Taika Waititi.
ian crossland
Yeah, he did that JoJo the rabbit movie.
alex bruesewitz
Wanda Sykes.
ian crossland
Wanda?
tim pool
Rosario Dawson is surprising.
I thought, wasn't Luke, doesn't Luke know Rosario?
alex bruesewitz
Didn't.
unidentified
Cool.
Rosario, she was with Cory Booker for a while.
alex bruesewitz
Senator Cory Booker.
ian crossland
Like dating?
alex bruesewitz
Yeah, dating.
tim pool
Well, you know, there you go.
That'll do it.
Yeah, it's a cult, man.
ian crossland
We gotta use... if you want to get through to people like this, you should use, in my opinion... Patrick Stewart!
...smaller words.
tim pool
How dare you, Captain Picardo?
ian crossland
Desistence, I think, just blanket confuses people that aren't really highly intelligent.
If they hear desistence, they're like, they don't know what that means.
Dysphoric, that word's too much for people.
They don't really... so if we could... you can use, like, simple language, like, most of the kids that don't get child sex changes turn out to be Not, you know, they turn out to be okay kind of thing.
Yeah.
unidentified
That's a good kind of... I just think it's sick what they're doing to the kids.
alex bruesewitz
Agreed.
I think Chloe Cole, she makes a really compelling case as to why you should not allow children to do this.
She went through the transition process when she was 16 and regretted it by the time she turned 18, but by then it was already too late for her.
Now she won't be able to have children and a lot of these different complications, and she speaks out so adamantly about how this is wrong and children shouldn't do it.
We need to take action, probably at a federal level, to ban puberty blockers.
ban these testosterone treatments for children. And also we just need to ban the surgeries and
the procedures. It should not happen in our country. It's wrong. And I feel like every
single politician that's in the Senate or in Congress, if a Muslim country, for example,
was mutilating the genitalia of the youth, every single member would sign a resolution saying,
it's disgusting, it's barbaric, and it's wrong.
Meanwhile, here in our country, they're like, oh, this is so wonderful.
And so, you know, I remember about four or five years ago, there was a case in Minnesota where a Muslim doctor was illegally mutilating the genitalia of young girls.
And everybody's outraged about that, but if you do it in the name of... Oh, the parents wanted it.
tim pool
The parents brought the little girl, the little girl agreed, and the doctor performed the surgery.
alex bruesewitz
It's wrong.
tim pool
But the left is in favor of parental rights, as they describe it.
alex bruesewitz
It's so wrong.
But they were all outraged about that case.
seamus coughlin
Why do you care so much?
alex bruesewitz
Because I want to have children one day, and I don't want to have them grow up and thinking that they're the wrong gender, because they're not, and we can't let this happen.
seamus coughlin
Amen.
Well, I mean, it's this refrain we hear from them all the time.
Whenever you point out anything disgusting is happening, why do you care so much?
Why do you even know that that's happening?
It's like, I mean, you can literally make that argument about any horrible thing that's happening in the world.
tim pool
The only way to end the argument, Seamus, is to make sure nobody can have it.
seamus coughlin
Is to make sure that nobody can have the argument or nobody can care.
tim pool
Nobody can have the argument.
What they're saying is, it is better that no one talk about it, because if they do, the results all go in the same direction.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
People will see that this is all made up nonsense.
Then again, you wonder, how much of this, look, this is Hollywood, alright?
How much of it is these people going, I really care about this cause, and how much is it?
Excuse me.
Yes, this is your manager calling.
You're gonna sign this?
It's gonna look really great for publicity?
Alright, yes, no, we're putting your name on it?
Okay, gotcha.
Boom.
What does it say?
Ah, doesn't matter.
It's gonna look good.
It's gonna make you look good.
You're gonna be a star, darling.
tim pool
I think I have an example for you from today.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
Take a look at this from page six.
Non-drinker Blake Lively accused of cash grab as she launches the alcohol brand.
I saw this story earlier.
Everyone's like, yo, she talks about how she doesn't drink and she's selling booze.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
What did you expect?
Like, let me tell you, I wake up in the morning and I drink Casper coffee.
seamus coughlin
I thought you were going to say you wake up and drink booze.
tim pool
No, I drink Casper coffee.
Like, we blended our own coffee.
It is delicious.
I like drinking it.
I would like you to buy it.
She does not actually want to drink.
She wants you to drink.
unidentified
Mmm.
tim pool
This is what these celebrities do.
Like, I got no beef on her launching a product.
She doesn't have to be a drinker to sell booze.
I'm just saying, don't be surprised when they come out to you and they're like, for just 10 cents, you can save a pet in need.
And then as soon as the camera wraps, they walk over and she's like, you know, throwing the, like, bringing the cats for euthanasia or whatever.
Like, they don't care.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
I mean, it's all superficial.
They're all just trying to promote something so that they can profit themselves.
Obviously, in this instance, they're promoting something which is unbelievably barbaric, disgusting, horrible, something that people in a civilized society would not support.
And yet, here we are, because we are increasingly less civil with each passing day.
But ultimately, I agree.
They don't really care about this cause.
They don't know about it.
They don't know about it.
tim pool
Targeted misgendering.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
and dead naming of trans and non-binary people.
There's something that's gotta be stopped.
Yeah.
Like, dude, you cannot tell me what I can or cannot call you.
If you wanna have an argument about harassment, there's a block button, there's a mute button.
But I can understand, I can understand, there is a line in harassment.
Legally and criminally speaking, if you go out in public, and you're shown at somebody's house or their place of work, and you're insulting them and screaming at them in demeaning ways, the police are going to say, you are now officially harassing this person, you have to stop it.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, of course.
tim pool
Or otherwise you will be criminally charged.
I agree with that as it pertains to social media, but if it is an open public conversation, where I, in my space, My Twitter account.
I say, I think Ian's name is Ian, and he's a guy, and I'm gonna keep saying it.
That's not harassment.
I'm expressing an opinion on a public figure, on a personality.
seamus coughlin
Well, what if someone chases you down the street and says, hey, I'm gonna gay bash you?
tim pool
That's a crime.
seamus coughlin
Do you think it happened though?
tim pool
It obviously didn't happen.
Elliot Page's story is really, really sad.
Being one of the signatories on this, it shows you the depravity of these people.
I will tell you the story.
There's a lot of people who will look at, say, like, uh, Dylan Mulvaney, and then the feeling they get from seeing someone make a mockery of women, they then project onto all trans people.
And I think it's really important that when you think about someone like Elliot Page, you should be having sadness in your heart, sympathy and empathy for this individual who was seriously abused in Hollywood, and became depressed, was self-harming, was hearing voices, all This is all from the Elliot Page LA Times, like, like memoir story.
This is a person who is in deep need of help, and the problem is, there's no one there to help these individuals.
Because you'll either get conservatives being condescending and rude most of the time to any of these people, and then what happens is someone like Elliot Page can only go to the left.
And what does the left do?
Encourages self-harm.
So that's why I'm like, when we were talking earlier about Gizmodo, I'm like, I'll hire him.
Like, the only way you get people to stop doing bad things is give them an opportunity to do good things.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I mean, there has to be a road to repentance.
tim pool
Absolutely.
seamus coughlin
Turn it around.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex bruesewitz
I think that people were showing some compassion towards, I guess, I don't want to say compassion, but most people have always been against the trans movement, period.
But people didn't have as much hatred in their hearts towards them until they started coming for the kids.
Until they started promoting, hey, young five-year-old, you can transition genders and we are here for you.
I feel like that has escalated so quickly and it's only a couple years old, this movement, and maybe it's been going on behind the scenes a little bit longer, but it's becoming mainstream the last couple of years and it's turning people that were like, you know what, I don't really care what you do as an adult, to I'm against it altogether.
ian crossland
The San Francisco Boys Choir, they made a song, Will Convert Your Children, Men's Chorus, and it was, I think, an example of when someone gets a hold of a large amount of power and then misuses it.
Like, they had the trans community, the trans movement was going strong when that came out.
It was like, finally, for the first time in reality, they have a voice, they're talking about it in public, it's mainstream conversation, and then they go and do something like that and piss off Untold amount of parents.
tim pool
It was not the trans community.
ian crossland
It was some gay men's group.
tim pool
And it was like 50 guys.
ian crossland
So what are they saying?
They're gonna come, gay men are gonna come for your kids?
Like what in the hell were they thinking?
tim pool
Exactly in the song what they want to do.
They want to take your kids and bring them to hang out with strangers.
They want to expose them to things parents trying to protect them against.
I mean, yeah, it's evil.
ian crossland
Those guys don't speak for all gay people, obviously, but man, what an abuse, what a mistake, what a fumble, when you have that kind of opportunity to create a conversation.
seamus coughlin
I don't think it was a mistake on their part.
I think they knew exactly what they were saying and doing.
I think they knew exactly what they were saying and doing.
alex bruesewitz
I think what you were saying, it is evil.
President Trump, he's like, I don't like the word woke.
Because what's happening in our country, it's not just woke, it's sick, and it's evil.
What they're doing to our kids isn't woke, it is sick, and it is evil, and it is demonic, and it needs to be called that.
Woke is like a friendly word.
That's not harsh enough.
President Trump is right.
It is sick, evil, and demonic, and we need to call it out.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, yep, it is demonic.
And speaking of which, and actually tying this back to something you mentioned earlier, Tim, about Elad and the research that he was doing in the journalism, the good work he did publishing that video.
And it was a video, of course, where people were marching in the streets at a pride parade saying, we're coming for your children, we're coming for your children.
ian crossland
um nbc tried doing damage control on this by tweeting the coming for your children chant has been used for years at pride events according to longtime march attendees and gay rights activists who said it's one of many provocative expressions used to regain control of slurs yet the first two paragraphs deny the chant even happened and they said it was just one guy and we don't even know if he was lgbtq it was more than one guy they're playing drums to it and they're all shouting it there's a in the video a girl goes We're coming for your... And when she says children, she winces and looks aside, like even she's having a hard time saying it out loud, but she's just part of the cult, part of that group.
And so she goes along, she keeps marching.
seamus coughlin
And it's just, you know, we're at a stage where NBC really thought they were doing damage control by saying, oh, but they've been saying that forever.
tim pool
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
That makes it so much worse!
ian crossland
This is the apocalypse.
seamus coughlin
Another prediction for the Christian right, man.
tim pool
That's all.
Come November, the peak of the Taurids.
ian crossland
I love that.
tim pool
Are they going to cause a tidal shift or something and the oceans are going to bubble up and just sweep?
Maybe what happened in the Great Flood was it was a strong gravitational pull that created a large tide that rolls over the whole planet at once before going back down.
ian crossland
Have you seen that old simulation of what it was like when the moon was closer to the earth?
That's what happened.
The moon used to be really oblong, going around really ovular around the earth and pulling the water like, I don't know how many thousands of feet in the air, just covering land masses.
No, we won't flood.
We'll be okay.
tim pool
What was the video?
How do I find it?
ian crossland
I saw it on Twitter, and it's just a simulation, a short like 30 or 40 second simulation.
It might be that third video.
I'm not sure what's that one called.
tim pool
Mars?
Wet to dry animation?
seamus coughlin
No, that's not it.
And to be clear, if we don't address climate change, it will happen again.
ian crossland
What was the story in the Bible during the apocalypse?
What happens exactly?
seamus coughlin
You want me to break down the whole book?
ian crossland
Give me a three minute elevator pitch, because we're going to super chats.
seamus coughlin
It's a story where St.
John is writing visions about the end of the world, and the different things that he saw taking place, and the vision that he saw, basically.
ian crossland
Okay, so the reigning fro- It's notoriously difficult.
seamus coughlin
No, the reigning frogs, that's from Exodus.
ian crossland
I see.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
ian crossland
Okay, so this is all from John's visions.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, so there's a number of things.
It's a notoriously difficult read, but yeah, there's a number of different prophecies laid out.
It talks about the dragon sweeping a third of the stars from heaven, the antichrist.
There's a lot.
ian crossland
I call it the apocalypse because it's... That's what Catholics call it, actually, instead of revelation.
The word in Greek means revelation or disclosure.
It means the same thing, and ultimately with the internet... Was this the video?
That's it, man.
That's one of them.
unidentified
That's definitely one of them.
tim pool
Yeah, this is just how the moon affects Earth time.
seamus coughlin
It's gonna happen again.
It's gonna happen again.
tim pool
And when it was close, man... That's not the exact one I've seen, but that's... But just imagine if, like, the water gets pulled 50 feet above sea level by some high gravitational force.
You could easily get a great flood.
ian crossland
Yeah, we're in a... This Earth is insanely vulnerable.
Things are happening very slowly cosmologically, but... We're lucky to be alive.
tim pool
That's the... Like...
It's kind of scary how simple it is.
We know gravitational force will have this effect on water.
If some large body were to pass by close enough and could cause... I mean, I doubt it, because it would have to be as big as, like, the moon and be super close.
ian crossland
But, you know... The biggest fear is a melt.
A large, giant melt, like, from some sort of external heat.
But since most of the water... the ice has already melted from the last flood, we're not really in any kind of danger of another giant flood, I don't think?
Although, what happens is when the ice is removed, so like if the ice caps were to instantly melt, not only is there a huge flux of water now onto the Earth's surface, but the land that the ice was on top of, that's being compressed down, now pops up.
And when the land pops up, Earth elsewhere sucks down.
So that's why they say Atlanta sunk into the ocean.
The landmass, not only did all the water melt, but as North America rose, you know, Western Europe sunk.
And I don't know if there's enough ice on Earth to produce that.
That phenomena at the moment.
tim pool
So you're saying there won't be a great flood?
ian crossland
No, I don't think so.
There could be a great steam.
I mean, if comets hit the Earth and cause massive, massive steam to go up, then it could block out the sun, and then we could enter a cooling period, which would cause massive amounts of ice, which could mess up the Earth's magnetic field.
tim pool
Do you think, Ian, that the smog and the haze that's blanketing the entire East Coast is actually Bill Gates' evil plan to blot out the sun?
ian crossland
Oh, is that what it is?
It smells like plastic.
I don't know what it is.
tim pool
Yeah, it does smell like plastic.
It's weird.
It's so nasty, it's even hard to breathe in here.
unidentified
Yeah, it is.
tim pool
Yeah, I gotta figure something out tonight, because yesterday, like, last week I lost my voice, and it started getting better, then the haze came in, and I woke up and I could not talk at all.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
ian crossland
I was getting hot earlier.
tim pool
I was, like, wearing a t-shirt over my face all day.
Seriously, even indoors.
We walked in the studio earlier, and you could see the haze in the room, and I'm like, what the... And we think it's because we have exposed vents, because the AC's busted and it pulled air in or something, and so we had to, like, tape them up, and I'm just like...
Dude, it's so psychotically bad.
It's gonna be as bad tomorrow.
It's gonna be a little bit better, but basically as bad.
ian crossland
So what happened in John's visions after all the crazy stuff in the apocalypse?
Are you familiar, Seamus?
seamus coughlin
Well, yeah, I mean, I've read Revelation, but it's a very difficult read.
There are a lot of different breakdowns of it.
Taylor Marshall does a really good one that I would recommend.
tim pool
Wouldn't it be funny if, you know, like, the apocalypse is in November?
ian crossland
I think we're in it, literally.
It's gonna be, people are gonna plug into the neural net and see each other's thoughts and talk about a great revelation.
tim pool
Not even that, like, just all the... Revelation, is it prophecy?
How would you describe it?
Is it, like, predictive?
seamus coughlin
Uh, yeah, yeah.
I mean, yes.
There are some modernists who will make the argument that this is describing things that have already happened, and it's talking about Nero, but... I mean, I believe it's prophecy.
tim pool
What if it all, like, is there a time frame for how long these things are supposed to happen?
seamus coughlin
So there's a book that I've been reading called Trial, Tribulation, and Triumph, and it's a massive text, and it sort of discusses how long a lot of these things take, and, like, how long the stage is set for the Antichrist, but the basics of it is whenever you hear people say things like, oh, the, um, you know, the Antichrist is coming next year, I mean, the events that set the stage for the Antichrist to, like, even take power with the One World Government forming, I mean, it's stuff that would take years.
tim pool
So maybe it's happening.
seamus coughlin
Well, I mean, I guess if you believe that we're actually leading up to the end of the world, I guess you could say in some sense the events that will result in the apocalypse are already in motion, but I guess they always have been.
tim pool
Is it the end of the world, though?
seamus coughlin
Well, at the end of time, we believe that God will end up recreating the world after the resurrection, so there will be a new world, but yeah, the world as we know it.
tim pool
So what happens when the world ends like literally like not revelation i mean like literally the point where just like okay this is at the end of the world it's like time stops hmm do the people who still live there just get like frozen like yeah and then like all the good pious christians flood up naked to heaven well so there would be um
seamus coughlin
a final judgment and then there's a public judgment where the dead are all raised and then there's a public judgment where people see everything that ever happened and so it's going to take quite a while yeah and so basically god judges everyone in front of everyone at the public judgment dude so we believe there's a private judgment when you first die and then at the end of the world after the resurrection there's going to be the public judgment like imagine all of it yeah it's bad enough you know you're worried about your web history No, it's gonna be, it's gonna be everything.
So you're saying it's gonna be everything?
ian crossland
The dead raise?
Yeah, so... Okay, I can see that when they're trying to recreate people's parents with artificial intelligence so you can call your dad after he's passed.
Like, that's the dead coming back.
seamus coughlin
But we actually believe in a resurrection of the body.
Like, the body will actually come back.
People will rise from the grave.
tim pool
God will bring everybody back and there will be a judgment and then... Like a 1,500 year old corpse in the coffin will, like, reform and, like, come out of the ground or what?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I'm not sure how he's gonna do it.
I'm not sure what God will do to make that happen, but everyone will return in their body, the dead will be raised, there will be a final judgment, and then the weed is separated from the chaff, and you're either in the new creation, the new world, in heaven with God forever, or you're in hell for all of eternity.
tim pool
I gotta say, if God's gonna make a point, 1500-year-old skeleton, bursts to the ground with bony hand, comes out, and then the flesh starts regrowing and coming back, and then they just, like, are back to normal, and they're like, alright, let's get to it, you know what I mean?
Just make sure it's not a deep thing.
ian crossland
A hologram or something.
tim pool
What do you expect, like, just, there's a blink, and then the person's standing above their grave?
ian crossland
I think it's gonna happen on the internet.
It's gonna be virtual.
All this stuff of like the dead rising and speaking with the dead.
I think it's going to be like, and what'll happen is you'll be able to live so many lifetimes in one second with the neural net.
You'll have like a full lifetime and then you'll come back and it'll only be like five seconds have passed or a minute.
And you'll look around the world and it'll be like time has stopped.
Everyone in the real world is not even doing anything.
As I live an entire life in the blink of an eye, you're still sitting in your chair just like you were 70 years ago.
So this world I can see that meaning how time has stopped.
alex bruesewitz
Well, if it's a deepfake, Tim will most definitely be calling it out.
Nobody calls out deepfakes quite like Tim Pool.
tim pool
That's a fact.
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Last night, we talked about bonus holes.
I'll leave it at that.
But let's read what y'all have to say.
We have Nathan Picori says, best wishes to Mr. Bocas.
My friends, I have terrible news.
So over the past seven or so months, just about eight months, we have been giving Mr. Bocas, the cat, a medical treatment including IV fluids and red blood cells, kidney hormone to produce red blood cells, as well as Ian got him stem cell treatments.
They did not work.
Well, I should say it worked as long as they did.
So, Mr. Bocas was a street cat.
We adopted him from a PetSmart or something, and we only found out in December or so that he has a congenital heart defect and undersized kidneys, likely due to malnourishments.
He's a street cat.
And so, uh, his kidneys began failing.
He has chronic kidney disease, normally affecting older cats, and he's only four and a half, about five now.
I believe he may be five years old.
And, um, he was dying.
In December, I made a farewell video because they thought he had about a week left.
The emergency treatments we got him prolonged his life this long, but, uh, something happened.
Typically every morning, when I wake up, we hear yelling at, uh, I hear yelling at my bedroom door, because Mr. Baucus is demanding that we wake up, and he wants us to wake up earlier than we actually like to wake up.
And so I wake up, and I open the door, he runs in, and he wants to drink water out of the toilet or something, but we give him fresh water.
He has fresh water, but, you know, cats.
And, um, two days ago, he did not wake us up.
And so we got up, went to the door, and I opened it, and he was just sitting in the living room, and I'm like, I didn't think much of it.
And then yesterday, when he was getting his fluid treatment, he had curled into his carrier, which was flipped over in the corner and was hiding and would not come out, which is indicative of illness in cats.
Cats like to go off and hide when they're about to die.
So we brought him to the vet where he stayed overnight for treatments and it looks incredibly bad where this may be... I don't even know if he'll make it through the night.
His heart is literally in failure and he's wheezing and struggling to keep his eyes open.
His heart is unable to keep up.
His red blood cell count is half of what it should be.
His blood urine nitrogen levels are double what they should be.
His kidneys don't work.
The problem is the treatment for the blood problems causes heart problems, and the heart's already failing, so there's nothing we can do at this point.
And the vet actually recommended euthanasia, to which I said no.
And, you know, there's a lot of people who think that the appropriate thing to do is just humanely put him down.
I don't know that's the right thing to do, because, you know, the argument is his quality of life is bad and he's suffering.
And he's not a dog.
You know, people like to assign human emotions to animals.
It may work for dogs to a certain degree.
Like, when a dog is sick and scared, the dog wants you with it.
Cats are very different.
Cats are little anarchists.
They actually want to go hide and be alone.
So, you try and figure out the balance.
Over the past couple of days, Mr. Bocas has been trying very much so to sleep on our laps.
So, you know, we want to be there if he wants us to be there.
And I also kind of want to respect if Mr. Bocas wants to go curl into the corner and, you know, go out the way a cat wants to go out.
I want to respect that too.
So, we're doing our best.
We'll figure it out.
But thank you for the super chat.
That's the update on Mr. Bocas.
And just before we started the show, I didn't think he was going to make it to 7 p.m.
He couldn't keep his eyes open.
You can see his heart is going crazy, desperately trying to pump blood, and it's failing.
It's got a clot.
ian crossland
Yeah, Kim brought him back at about six, and everyone was excited to see him because they had the news already.
He jumped out of his carrier, went and got a bunch of water, ate a bunch of food, but I think the attention was really kind of pushing him and his heart.
So if anyone listening that's in contact with Bucko, treat him like a flower, a beautiful flower.
You don't want to pick the thing.
unidentified
You just want to appreciate it, you know, and we'll be there for him.
tim pool
It's gonna be okay.
ian crossland
We'll see him again, man.
tim pool
The plan is we're going to get another cat that I believe is a tabby and we're gonna name him Bocas 2.
Bocas number 2.
ian crossland
Bucko got a got a bad roll reference.
tim pool
Simpsons reference.
unidentified
I love it.
ian crossland
Played his hand well.
tim pool
Yeah, you know, I hate to think what his life would have been like if we didn't adopt him from that shelter.
They may have just put him down.
So, you know, the vet said they can't treat him because the kidney treatment destroys the heart and the heart treatment destroys the kidneys and they're both in trouble.
And we even talked about doing a kidney transplant and they're like, his heart's too bad, he can't do it.
Look, a cat grows up on the street eating garbage, and he's lucky to have had as good a life as he did.
In fact, probably one of the best cat lives a cat could ever have.
So, perhaps as they say, a candle that burns twice as bright last half as long.
And if his destiny was to die in the gutter, but he was brought into one of the greatest places a cat could ever live, then he maximized He maximized his opportunity, and we appreciate Mr. Bocas and everything he did for all of us.
Except peeing on the floor.
He did that a lot, and we had to clean it.
ian crossland
That was the worst part.
I wanted him in my room to give him my warmth, and to be with him, like, my energy, you know, to heal him, and he just kept peeing on the fucking floor, man!
Like, I love you, bucko, but what the fuck, dude?
Like, I can't have him peeing all over my house!
It's a wild cat.
I love the guy, but...
tim pool
Just peeing everywhere.
ian crossland
Just wouldn't stop peeing.
Bucko, in your next life.
tim pool
Bucko's a great little guy, man.
It's because he's a street cat.
seamus coughlin
We love Bucko.
tim pool
He doesn't, and so, uh, you know, we brought him here today and we were upstairs right when we got, we were coming in right before the show and he walked over to his litter box and we were like, okay, this is, this is good.
You know, he's not peeing on the floor, but he stood in the litter box with his butt aimed out of the litter box and just peed right on the floor.
seamus coughlin
Sounds like him, dude.
ian crossland
I'll post a picture.
The first picture I ever took of him was in 2019.
I'm going to post it on Instagram later.
unidentified
It's sad seeing him wheeze with all the smoke, too.
seamus coughlin
It's just so much worse.
tim pool
It's real bad right now.
The chickens are all in a special little facility.
I guess one chicken got away and ran and jumped in the bushes.
Did they rescue it?
ian crossland
I don't know.
unidentified
I saw it right before I came to the show, but I assume so.
tim pool
Chickens are so dumb.
But, uh, I'm hoping Mr. Bocas has a couple days left in him and then we'll go find another cat.
The idea being that the spark of Bocas, he can teach maybe a baby kitten a couple things before he passes and we'll carry on his Bocas legacy in Bocas 2.
Alright, let's grab some more superchats now that y'all have heard the update on Mr. Bocas.
Alright.
Kalishnabob says, any chance of getting some instant coffee out of cast brew?
I don't know.
I don't know if we can do that just yet.
I do know that cast brew is going to have, we are preparing to launch protein, I think protein MCT and I think we're doing electrolyte.
And then I think Chris was adamant on us getting like lion's mane mushroom stuff.
ian crossland
So good.
Dude, I do an extract of that.
It's so good.
tim pool
So I'm like, I don't want to do supplements in that regard where I have like brain blasts and like a whole bunch of different things.
I'm like, I just want protein powder for me.
That's kind of how I view it.
Like the coffee we made, it's coffee I like.
And we want to have a couple things that I enjoy that I think that we could sell to other people.
I want to do MCT and protein because I literally want to just put it in my own shaker and go and skate and then drink it and have it.
Uh, and so, you know, I'm not gonna be doing any of the mushroom... Oh, you should try limes, man, it's pretty cool.
I mean, I don't know, it's not my thing.
ian crossland
A lot of it's psychosomatic, you just take it, you eat it, and you're like, wow.
But I'm, it's, from what I've read, it's one of the greatest mushrooms on earth to eat.
tim pool
But we will have more stuff at Casperoo.com coming up.
I don't know about instant coffee, though.
Um... I'm not sure about that.
It seems too far outside of our wheelhouse.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, it's also just a, it's a completely different thing.
tim pool
Yeah.
Maybe, like, we have K-Cups coming out.
I'm really excited about.
alex bruesewitz
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
So...
All right, let's grab some more Super Chats.
D. Wolfman says, What should you do if you've tried several different careers, sports, and hobbies and find you have no natural talents and don't work well in the woke corporate paradigm?
alex bruesewitz
RedBalloon.org.
tim pool
If at first you don't succeed, try again.
seamus coughlin
Well, did he say he has no talents or no natural talents?
What is this?
alex bruesewitz
Alex says look up RedBalloon.org.
It's an awesome new company that's connecting non-woke job seekers with non-woke employers.
If you ever feel like you aren't able to express yourself in your place of work, you can use this job board to find somewhere that will respect your values.
I mean, what I love about this is that the woke movement is creating solutions.
You know, the free market and the great geniuses that love our country are creating solutions to the boycotts.
We're going to create companies that you can shop with your values at, and then also you can find a company that will support your values in the workplace if you want to work there.
ian crossland
Redballoon.work?
alex bruesewitz
Yes.
ian crossland
I like it.
unidentified
We talked about them last night?
tim pool
I remember seeing the first one.
It was really, really great.
Herman Cain, dude.
That guy's story is incredible.
Hard-working guy.
Believed in himself.
Accomplished so much.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Amazing.
He was great.
There were black factories, schools, tons of small businesses and more.
I remember seeing the first one.
It was really, really great.
Herman Cain, dude, that guy's story is incredible.
Hardworking guy, believed in himself, accomplished so much.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I mean, he was great.
And then everyone on the left laughed really hard when he died.
ian crossland
I've heard so brutal.
I've heard an argument that before the integration of the black and the white
population in the 60s and 50s or whenever that was, that they were very strong,
Enforced black communities that and they were doing very well
And once the segregation started, there became a hierarchy in these new desegregated, rather the desegregation.
tim pool
This is the critical race theory argument.
Critical race theorists argue that During segregation, the black community had its own economy and infrastructure, and it was successful, despite the fact that the white economy and infrastructure was larger.
With the end of segregation, it forced the smaller economy into the larger one, which then got crushed.
Small business owners who were successful in the black community now had to take jobs working for white-owned factories and things like that.
ian crossland
So that may have happened.
I don't think that that is a reason for segregation.
I don't think that that's like, this is why we should never integrate races.
No.
It's just a natural phenomenon of integrating, you know, two cultures of different economic strata.
tim pool
All right.
Raybert G. Stanbert Jr.
says, Tim, I'd like some advice.
Looking to move to West Virginia, but I remember some places with bad policies you've mentioned.
Would like to be near the coffee shop, too.
Also, Destiny was losing his mind over Emma the other day.
I don't know exactly what happened.
All I know is someone sent me a message saying that he was watching the video, and then like a minute in, he was like, oh, he's like, oh geez, I don't know if I'm gonna be able to do this.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Oh, because of what Emma was saying?
unidentified
Basically.
Yeah.
ian crossland
He's not a fan, so we'll say.
tim pool
I like Dustin.
I think he's fantastic.
Looking forward to having him back here.
He's funny, and he's kind of ruthless.
He just calls people out.
It's fantastic.
Here's my strategy.
Can we just get everybody to move to Berkeley County and Martinsburg, West Virginia, so we can just affect policy in a positive direction?
That's the place to be.
Technically it's not, but it's kind of the front line.
Jefferson County, which leans slightly right but is a bit mixed because a lot of D.C.
people go there to get away from their own bad policies, you'd think would be more woke, but it's actually less.
A lot of right-wing nutjobs, self-described, living on the mountain.
You know, for instance, the cops out there, they know us, they're good people, they're fans, they do a good job.
The county explicitly banned these adult shows, people from bringing children to these adult performances.
But Berkeley County is like the woke area for some reason.
So, that's where people need to move to, and then start voting to uphold their values and all that stuff.
All right.
Selmark says there needs to be more outrage over the fire.
I don't know what you do about it.
I mean, we'd be mad, but like, what are you gonna do?
Build a big 200-foot wall to block the wind?
alex bruesewitz
Yes.
tim pool
Yeah.
alex bruesewitz
And Canada will pay for it.
tim pool
And Canada will pay for it.
It'd be funny if Trump actually said that.
That'd be great.
Cyan Tech says, just won the VA lottery and got my 100% disability, sharing the wealth.
Thanks for all you do.
Wow, congratulations.
Is that like a big win?
Are you like a billionaire now?
alex bruesewitz
And thank you for your service.
tim pool
I was going to say buy a boat, but I remember being told that the joke is the two best days in a boat owner's life are the day you buy the boat and the day you sell it.
And then the best boat is the one your friend owns.
But, you know, maybe get a helicopter.
There you go.
Those are fun.
David, Toronto, this was just for Bocas.
Really do appreciate it.
We gotta, you know, I wanna figure out what the, uh, appropriate thing for Mr. Bogus is when he does pass.
I was thinking Viking funeral.
ian crossland
What is that, like, he'd burn his bo- send it out on a boat and light it on fire, kinda?
tim pool
Yeah, fire a flaming arrow into the boat.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Maybe we'll get, like, a boat, we'll go out into international water and then put a little thing down and then fire the f- little- a little flaming arrow into a little- a little boat and have a Viking funeral for Mr. Bogus.
unidentified
Yeah, I guess you could.
tim pool
Or we just dig a little grave for him.
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Whatever you do.
tim pool
We'll get a tombstone made.
seamus coughlin
Sad.
He's an awesome little dude.
ian crossland
I've still got this belief that he can survive for a long time.
tim pool
That week in December, I thought he was going to die.
He was struggling to stand up.
He couldn't even get in the litter box.
and it was bad, he was shaking, and then we got him that medicine and he looked like he was back
to normal. I even got, even like three weeks ago, I was playing with a little fake bird and he was
running around and jumping and stuff. Yeah, he was in great spirits five days ago. Yeah, but I will
say two years ago we'd play for like 20 minutes of him chasing the bird around and jumping and
doing flips in the air, and this time he made a couple leaps and then laid down and fell on his
ian crossland
I wonder if this air is messing him up.
unidentified
Definitely.
tim pool
This air right now definitely is messing up everybody.
It's messing me up, and I'm a human who's taller than the cat.
ian crossland
Yeah, the heaviest stuff falls to the ground, and they... Kellan just messaged me and said that there's a...
Evidence of formaldehyde and benzene in the smoke?
I don't know if this is real or not.
Thanks, Kellen, for the message, though.
Confirmed according to MJTruthUltra on Twitter.
tim pool
I don't know about that one.
ian crossland
From Rumble and CIFFC.ca.
tim pool
I wouldn't be surprised, dude.
This stuff is...
unidentified
Gross, dude.
tim pool
Hurting.
unidentified
Yeah, it sucks.
tim pool
I could not talk this morning.
I was bad.
ian crossland
Doesn't smell like wood smoke.
unidentified
No.
No.
tim pool
It's something else.
Yeah.
unidentified
It's disgusting.
tim pool
Who knows?
It could just be that, you know, the trees burn and then go up and it collects stuff and creates a clump of garbage going over the cities and then washing the garbage from the cities and everything into us.
I don't know, man.
It's bad.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's grab some more Super Chats.
Super Chats.
unidentified
People are saying, like, people in Montana and Idaho and California.
I've been through that smoke, too.
seamus coughlin
This sucks.
tim pool
This really sucks.
Next, The Slayer says, What is your opinion on introducing an abortion ban with a similar life to affirmative action?
The ban being needed until a proper stigma is established, and rolled back that point with a sunset clause, how long would it take to establish stigma?
I have no idea.
ian crossland
A law banning abortions?
tim pool
I think abortion should be regulated at the federal level.
Congress needs to enact it, not the Supreme Court.
And my position on it would be like... I don't know, what did Destiny say?
Destiny said 20 weeks, right?
seamus coughlin
20 to 24, but he said when it's capable of being conscious, basically.
tim pool
I actually agree a decent amount with that.
I would argue, however, the consciousness is less material to me, but I understand his point.
My position is more of like an authoritarian versus libertarian thing, which puts me at, it should probably be banned after a certain amount of time federally.
The federal government has a right to uphold the Constitution.
The Supreme Court probably does need to issue a ruling on that.
It does need to be regulated by... codified by Congress, however.
alex bruesewitz
But it's a 40th Amendment argument, outright, the right to life and equality under the law, so... Well, the left, they like to say that Republicans are radical on abortion, but many on the left are actually becoming the radicals on abortion.
I mean, the Cummings are the radicals.
They went from pro-choice, many of them, maybe most of them, from pro-choice to pro-abortion.
And, you know, when Roe v. Wade was overturned, you had these videos of these girls just, who were pregnant, taking abortion pills and mocking pro-life protesters.
And it was sick, and it's demonic.
And you have a lot of these TikTok videos of girls who are pregnant, and then they go to a Planned Parenthood, and then they say, okay, problem taken care of, and the video gets like six million views.
And so they are celebrating abortion now.
They are the radicals on it.
I think Republicans need to turn the tables on them and start pointing them out for being
the radicals.
tim pool
The Real Hydro!
You know him, you love him.
He says, Tim, wasn't Tim Kast sued for defamation and from there on you guys have been an opinion
piece and not news?
Incorrect!
That is not true.
Unless I'm forgetting something, we've never been sued for defamation.
Like Tim Kast IRL is an opinion show, but that's because we are literally and overtly
an opinion show.
If you go to TimCast.com, what you'll see is any segment involving, like, me talking, or pop culture crisis, or inverted world, those are labeled opinion because they're quite literally opinion commentary shows, and then news are labeled something else.
This has nothing to do with defamation lawsuits, and has everything to do with standards in journalism. You'll notice that, say, the New
York Times or USA Today or Washington Post, Washington Post does this all the time, they publish
opinion pieces and don't label them opinion.
That is a violation of standard journalistic ethics. Tim Cass News does the opposite.
News is labeled news, opinion is labeled opinion. So, yeah, our news is news.
When Elad films a video and just writes, marchers chant, we are coming for your children, quote, that's it, that's news, not opinion.
It's a video of it literally happening.
Unka says, y'all should have a show that's just Hannah Clare reading the news as an anchor.
I think that would be a regular watch for a lot of people.
We have discussed such a thing.
We're just waiting for Freedomistan to get finalized.
TheRealHydro with another one.
He says, Tim, much better watch, but bro, get a Sapphire Crystal watch, such as an Omega or Rolex, and you won't worry about it breaking when being active.
That is a good point.
So, um, I have an Agard watch.
Agard's a great company.
They put out these commercials in support of American values.
And that actually is Sapphire Crystal.
And it's amazing.
It's a self-winding watch.
It's got a little wheel in it.
So as you wear it, you move around, it spins, winding up its spring, so it just keeps running.
And it's got a really awesome face.
And then I also have this one, this is a Holtz current watch, and I must admit, the longest
time I was like, watches, why would anyone wear a watch these days?
Smart watch I get, but why would you wear a regular watch just for the time when you
have your phone?
And then, I actually, I was like, you know, I'll get a watch.
Seriously, there are more circumstances where a quick glance at your wrist is much easier than pulling out your phone, clicking the button and putting it away.
And there are circumstances I've found in my life where I can't be pulling out my phone, you know, and it's just, it really is interesting.
There are circumstances where it's like I'm playing a video game, for instance.
I was playing Final Fantasy XVI, and I'm just looking up and I go like this, boom, time.
And I was like, that actually really does work better than if I'm gonna check my phone, I gotta pause, and then pull the phone out and take a look and put it back.
I like it.
ian crossland
By the way, did you confirm if you're on story mode in XVI?
tim pool
I am not on story mode.
I am on action mode.
ian crossland
I'm not gonna buy it.
tim pool
I'm enjoying it.
ian crossland
Really?
tim pool
It's, uh...
C plus, B minus.
unidentified
Yeah, it's too bad.
tim pool
So I'll tell you what my concerns are with it.
The time jumps.
Yeah, that's about it.
Other than that, I'm having a lot of fun with it.
alex bruesewitz
Are there diverse characters in the game?
tim pool
No.
Actually, no.
It's like, it's all British people.
It's all just white British people.
unidentified
Weird.
tim pool
Yeah, and um, yeah.
It's basically like, The crusade is like, it's like Middle Eastern people versus
British people for the most part.
I mean look, I don't want to spoil it. It's not so much that, but everyone's British.
Everyone has a British accent.
ian crossland
That's so weird.
tim pool
Yeah. I don't know. I like the game. I'm having fun playing it. It actually is a bit of a blast.
I like the gameplay mechanics. I like old school RPGs, turn-based, but I know that
that's not been Final Fantasy for a minute or whatever, so.
unidentified
Yeah, we're talking about Final Fantasy 16 by the way, everybody.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't think anyone mentioned that, but... Oh, okay, yeah, Final Fantasy XVI.
But that's what I like about the watch, like, if I'm playing, I can just go like that, I'm like, I got the joysticks, and I'm like, bam, bam, bam, I'm like, what time is it?
Okay, there we go.
It actually does work out really well.
Especially at the casino when they don't let you bring out your phone when you're sitting around.
Watches do work.
Also, you can be talking to someone and go, uh-huh, and look at your watch.
unidentified
It's fantastic.
ian crossland
A friend of mine has sunglasses, I'm probably going to end up getting a pair of these, that have an augmented screen inside that plug into your phone, which you can keep in like your backpack or in your pocket.
He says he loves it.
tim pool
Yeah, I had one of those 12 years ago.
It was called Google Glass.
ian crossland
Apparently they're good now.
tim pool
They're good now, huh?
ian crossland
Yeah.
unidentified
Google Glass!
ian crossland
You can play video games on them and stuff.
unidentified
I thought you were going to say plugs in the back of your brain or something.
ian crossland
Not yet.
Give it a couple years.
unidentified
Yeah, soon.
ian crossland
Yes, it will.
tim pool
Let's grab some new super chat.
Vosh says, you've never heard of Goldfrapp.
Ride a white horse, strict machine, ooh la la, great music, bad politics.
I absolutely know of the music of Goldfrapp, but just because I see the name Goldfrapp doesn't mean I assume that Alison Goldfrapp is the person from the music group Goldfrapp, though it makes sense.
That's why I said, who is Alison Goldfrapp?
But yes, those songs were like 2001 or something, 2002?
Yeah, early thousands, late 90s.
Yeah, I like those songs.
Old school.
Zizek says, Greta Thunberg went to Kiev and met Zelensky today to discuss a pressing environmental issue, saving the endangered German leopard.
Is that for real?
I know she went there, I saw those videos, but like, was it really about that?
alex bruesewitz
Mike Pence also went to Ukraine today.
tim pool
Oh yeah, how about that?
Dude, I'm sorry.
Deep State.
Millennials are just split on supporting war.
You're not winning us back over on this one.
You needed to stop Ron Paul 20 years ago.
They didn't do it.
Now you have a whole generation of kids who were online and heard some old guy be like, why are we going to war?
Why are we button and print money?
And then they were just like, that's a good point.
Now we're all in our thirties and you're like, why are they voting for Trump?
Because we agreed with him because he made a bunch of points that were good.
That's the guy they should have censored, but they were way too late.
You gotta stop the guy from planting the seeds.
Now all these kids who grew up on the internet and heard that anti-war message, it's actually a combination of, it was liberals against Bush, they wanted to win, and then it was Ron Paul around the same time.
Everybody opposed to this stuff, and now a whole generation opposes it.
Mike Pence going to Ukraine?
That's endearing himself to no one.
He's not gonna get any votes off of that.
We'll grab a couple more here.
Robert Sunderland says, Shamus's humor is so dry tonight, even another flood couldn't wet it.
Bro is straight full of beans tonight.
seamus coughlin
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
Extra Ecclesiam?
seamus coughlin
What is that?
Extra Ecclesiam Nullus Solis.
Outside of the church, there's no salvation.
tim pool
And then he said, God wills it.
He actually says, Deus vult.
seamus coughlin
Deus vult, yeah, of course, of course.
tim pool
Alright.
Roger, Robert Roger says, uh, wait, actually, that was, uh, it just jumped on me.
You did, yeah.
There was one for Seamus.
Robert Roger.
I thought it was Robert Roger.
I asked that one too.
Where did it go?
This is what I hate about YouTube.
Okay, it was Matthew Fettig.
He says, Seamus, I've never been a religious person, but you being on the show has slowly convinced me to give it a chance.
Will be looking for a church for my family.
seamus coughlin
Ah, dude, I'm so glad to hear that.
tim pool
Look at this, guys.
alex bruesewitz
Good work, Seamus.
tim pool
Converting people on this show.
seamus coughlin
Well, thank you for giving me the platform.
But yes, please seek out a good Catholic church in your area, but make sure it's a good one, because let me tell you, there are some where you will get I would say some less than sound teaching.
If the church, if they offer a traditional Latin mass there, even if that's not the one you go to, that's probably going to be a good church.
tim pool
We gotta grab this one last super chat.
Laura Loomer asks, Tim, what do you think about the DeSantis campaign press secretary using a burner account named Max to attack Trump supporters?
Is that true?
seamus coughlin
I haven't heard anything like this.
alex bruesewitz
You gotta look this up.
tim pool
Is it confirmed though?
alex bruesewitz
Well, look, there's reports, and Loomer has been doing a phenomenal job on exposing this, and people want to write Loomer off, but she's right a lot more than she's wrong, and she's been doing this a long time, and so there actually is an audio file that Loomer released comparing this anonymous account, Max's Voice, to Brian Griffin's voice, who is Ron DeSantis' press secretary.
And I'm not saying it's definitely Brian Griffin, but the voices are similar.
There's a weird connection between Brian Griffin's previous job for a group called the Maccabee Task Force.
tim pool
I think the most compelling thing was An email was sent about Rebecca Jones, and then a minute later this account tweeted out the actual footage that had been received.
unidentified
100%.
tim pool
But I don't know if it's confirmed, that's why I don't really have much to say about it.
alex bruesewitz
But there's timestamps on it.
So like Jeremy Redfern, who works for Ron DeSantis' governor's office, he received video footage of you know, Rebecca Jones and her son, and then a minute after Jeremy Redfern sends an email saying, thanks, confirmed, we got the video, Max Nordau, this Burner account, who allegedly, some people say, works with Jeremy Redfern, he had this video out one minute after.
tim pool
So at the very least it could be that this anonymous Twitter user has access to DeSantis' team or something like that.
alex bruesewitz
Yeah, some people are saying it's operated by the entire press team, some people are saying it's specifically... I think we gotta be careful.
tim pool
Gotta be careful with that.
I wanna see proof.
You know, here's my thing.
It would be very, very easy for them to delete that video they put up where they lied about Trump.
Super, super easy.
They could just delete it, put up a message being like, we shouldn't tweet it out, sorry about that.
But they won't do it.
And so that's the wall I'm at.
I'm like, all this stuff wouldn't surprise me.
But we'll wrap it up there because we're going to have a members-only show coming up in just a few minutes over at TimCast.com.
So go to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member.
And if you're a member for at least six months or you sign up at the $25 per month level, you can submit questions and actually ask us and our guests questions.
So that'll be a whole lot of fun and not so family-friendly.
You can follow the show at TimCast IRL.
You can follow me personally at TimCast.
Alex, do you want to shout anything out?
alex bruesewitz
Go to DonaldJTrump.com, buy this t-shirt, Not Guilty.
Who knows how many more indictments are going to come.
They're going to do everything they can to stop this man, but it's an awesome t-shirt.
It says 45, 47, Not Guilty, Donald Trump's mugshot, and stand with DJT.
tim pool
Right on.
seamus coughlin
Seamus Coghlan.
I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.
We release a cartoon every single week.
We released one today.
Alright?
It's a super funny one.
I was very happy.
This one actually took two weeks to animate.
It was a little bit of a... little bit of a longer video and more visually descriptive.
So I think if you guys go over there, you check that out, you're gonna like it.
ian crossland
I'm Ian Crossland.
Follow me at Ian Crossland anywhere on the internet.
And when you follow Alex on Twitter, it's Alex Brusewitz.
Good to see you again, man.
alex bruesewitz
Thanks, man.
ian crossland
Thanks for being a part of this grieving process for me tonight.
I got a little emotionally overcome.
It happens.
I love the man.
Bucko, you're in my thoughts and prayers.
I love you guys.
And let's turn this over to Serge Duprea.
unidentified
You say my name incorrectly every time.
ian crossland
What is it?
unidentified
It's, uh, it's Dupreeh, but it's on... Dupreeh.
ian crossland
Dupreeh.
alex bruesewitz
Dupreeh.
ian crossland
Thanks.
I thought it was Duprey the first time I met you.
unidentified
No, it's okay.
ian crossland
Dupreeh.
Serge Dupreeh.
unidentified
Anyways.
ian crossland
I'll get it right.
unidentified
I'm Serge.com on the internet.
That was a good one.
Yeah, Bucko's a good cat.
I feel bad about the guy, but he'll go to a better place.
Anyways, see you guys later.
tim pool
We will see you all over at TimCast.com.
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