June 8, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
02:02:42
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| Donald Trump has just announced that he has been informed he has been indicted by the | ||
| federal government by Biden's DOJ relating to the classified documents in his home. | ||
| This coming on a day when a new report has come out showing that Joe Biden received a bribe to fire the Ukrainian prosecutor from someone in Burisma. | ||
| Or I want to make sure we're very careful and very clear. | ||
| We've got what appears to be FBI confirmation that Joe Biden was bribed. | ||
| The bribery is related to firing the prosecutor. | ||
| What many people long suspected or believed. | ||
| We got a lot of big breaking news to talk about. | ||
| Donald Trump being indebted for the second time. | ||
| He'll likely be indebted a third time in Georgia. | ||
| And then we have The Ron DeSantis campaign using AI images of Trump hugging and kissing Dr. Fauci. | ||
| Now, to be honest, that one's substantially less consequential than the others, but it does pertain to the election and everything, so I think we should bring it up. | ||
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| Joining us to talk about this and so much more is Adam Weiss. | ||
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Thanks for having me, Tim. | |
| Adam Weiss. | ||
| I'm CEO of AMWPR, Strategic Political Communications Company. | ||
| I'm the guy people call when they're in Rikers or real crisis situation happens and one of these old friends of mine who was in Rikers a dozen ago just texted me and said, Trump's been indicted again. | ||
| I can't believe this happened. | ||
| So it's a sad day in America and this shouldn't happen in our country. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| Well, thanks for hanging out. | ||
| We also have Allad Eliyahu. | ||
| Hey, what's up, everybody? | ||
| I am Allad. | ||
| I'm a reporter here at TimCast News. | ||
| You can find me and other journalists here at TimCast News work at Twitter, at TimCast News. | ||
| Thanks for having me, Tim. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| Seamus Coghlan! | ||
| Look who we have here, Elan, back again. | ||
| I'm Seamus. | ||
| I'm really excited for tonight's show. | ||
| I actually think it's going to be a fun time. | ||
| And I run a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes. | ||
| We released a video today that's doing pretty well. | ||
| The audience is really seeming to enjoy it and engage with it. | ||
| So I would suggest you guys check it out. | ||
| We were making fun of the new Little Mermaid reboot, as well as other reboots that do the obnoxious race swapping thing and then get upset with people for noticing. | ||
| So go over there, check it out. | ||
| I really think you guys are going to enjoy it. | ||
| We had guest stars Adam and Sitch on it. | ||
| It was a fun project. | ||
| Hello everyone, Ian Crossland. | ||
| I am a wizard and a shaman. | ||
| Also, we have Serge Duprea. | ||
| Hey, yeah, I'm here. | ||
| I'm excited for today's show. | ||
| Good to see you, Elad, as always. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| All right, we have this from Truth Social. | ||
| Donald Trump has posted, saying, The corrupt Biden administration has informed my attorneys that I have been indicted seemingly over the boxes hoax. | ||
| Even though Joe Biden has 1,850 boxes at the University of Delaware, additional boxes in Chinatown, D.C., with even more boxes at the University of Pennsylvania, and documents strewn all over his garage floor where he parks his Corvette, and which is, quote, secured by only a garage door that is paper thin and open much of the time. | ||
| He continues, I have been summoned to appear at the federal courthouse in Miami on Tuesday at 3 p.m. | ||
| I never thought it possible that such a thing could happen to a former president of the United States who received far more votes than any sitting president in the history of our country and is currently leading by far all candidates both Democrat and Republican in polls of the 2024 presidential election. | ||
| I am an innocent man. | ||
| This is indeed a dark day for the United States of America. | ||
| We are a country in serious and rapid decline, but together we will make America great again. | ||
| Elon Musk has chimed in responding to ALX posting this saying, there does seem to be far higher interest in pursuing Trump compared to other people in politics. | ||
| Very important the justice system rebut what appears to be differential enforcement or they will lose public trust. | ||
| Elon, I appreciate the sentiment, but you are a couple years too late. | ||
| It's happening. | ||
| The federal indictment by the Biden DOJ is direct election interference. | ||
| It is subversion of the United States election. | ||
| It's just I don't even know what to say other than, you know, look man, I don't see how this country remains on this path. | ||
| I don't see how the United States stands and continues to function when you've got the sitting president filing an indictment against his chief rival. | ||
| And the same day, and we'll get to it in a minute, where evidence is coming out proving Biden is corrupt and was taking bribes. | ||
| Well, not just Biden, right? | ||
| The entire political establishment has been for a very long time and we've seen selective prosecutions occur. | ||
| I think in the case of Dinesh D'Souza, it was very obvious that his prosecution was politically motivated, though he did commit a crime. | ||
| It's one that typically Is not pursued in one which almost never carries the penalty which he received, which was jail time. | ||
| So this has been happening for a while here and now they're just moving on to higher and higher profile people like the former president of the United States and one of the number one polling people who's currently running in 2024. | ||
| When Donald Trump said that if he was in charge of the justice system in the United States, Hillary Clinton would be in jail. | ||
| In an absolutely brilliant moment, which was hilarious and very rhetorically effective, the response from the media was, this sets a very dangerous precedent. | ||
| Now, I think it's a little bit different, right? | ||
| Because there are things that Hillary Clinton has done that we can point to and say, almost anyone else who had done these things would at the very least be investigated and very likely be prosecuted. | ||
| Now with Donald Trump, what they're trying to nail him for is having classified documents, even though he as president had the authority to declassify them and did so. | ||
| So there's absolutely nothing here, but they want to lock him up because He is setting an example for the American people, and so now they need to make one out of him. | ||
| I sure think that Trump... I bet Trump regrets not prosecuting Hillary Clinton. | ||
| He was like, we're gonna lock her up! | ||
| And then as soon as he got elected, he's like, we're not gonna do it! | ||
| And now he's probably really upset that he didn't, because they're coming after him with everything they've got. | ||
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Well, he had a weak Justice Department from the beginning. | |
| Remember, Sessions gave in right away. | ||
| It must have been a month into the administration. | ||
| They went after Flynn. | ||
| VP fired Flynn. | ||
| And we sat through four years of this Russia hoax. | ||
| Every day. | ||
| CNN, MSNBC, the whole mainstream media. | ||
| Russia hoax. | ||
| And there was nothing there. | ||
| But Jeff Session appointed a special prosecutor right off the bat, and we have to live with that. | ||
| You think Merrick Garland appointed a special prosecutor looking to Joe Biden's five million? | ||
| Never. | ||
| We have two tiers of justice in this country. | ||
| I thought it was interesting that they released this on a Thursday at 7.40pm, right before we go live. | ||
| Like, I'm not saying we're the center of the universe, but do they want to make a public spectacle? | ||
| Is this more about- Well, Trump announced it. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Did Trump want us to talk about it? | ||
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I was watching Tinkast and I thought, quite frankly, they should break it. | |
| I would love that. | ||
| Let's see if we can get him on the phone. | ||
| That'd be amazing. | ||
| If they want to make a public spectacle, is the goal here to humiliate Donald Trump or is the goal to put him in jail? | ||
| Both. | ||
| I think context here is very important. | ||
| So Donald Trump will be the first former president who's ever been indicted on something. | ||
| This is the second time he's going to be indicted. | ||
| So first, in New York City, the Manhattan District Attorney was working with a grand jury to indict Trump for these so-called hush money payments to Stormy Daniel. | ||
| Now we have the Department of Justice looking into these classified documents. | ||
| The second indictment that's ever come up. | ||
| Also, there's, I think, potentially a third indictment that's going to come from Georgia surrounding efforts to potentially, with what he said, With looking for votes with that whole scandal. | ||
| There's also another civil suit against the Trump organization about lying to lenders and insurers about his assets. | ||
| But what's key here is that this is the first former president to be indicted. | ||
| And I know there's a myth that nobody's above the law, but guess what? | ||
| The president and former presidents actually are above the law. | ||
| There's a lot of things that people could have thought of to indict former presidents on. | ||
| We spoke about it earlier. | ||
| Barack Obama droned American citizens overseas. | ||
| Whether or not some people think that's justified, that's something that could potentially be indicted on. | ||
| People call George Bush, say that he started an illegal war in Iraq. | ||
| But no, the first indictment of a former president that we're seeing is initially for hush money payments and now this declassified document. | ||
| Eli, you're going to start making me support this. | ||
| I mean, if this opens the door for us to go after former presidents and prosecute them, man, I hope he gets off and he should, but let's do it. | ||
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What's it say? | |
| If this is the first former president No, agreed. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I'm giving you a hard time. | ||
| If they indicted Trump over the commando raids in Yemen that resulted in the death, allegedly, the death of an American girl, Abdulrahman al-Awlaki's sister, that one is more conjecture than Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, but should be investigated. | ||
| If they indicted him for that, said an investigation found this to be the case, I'd be like, well, what do you want me to say? | ||
| You order these raids and you kill American citizens, you get charged. | ||
| They're not doing that. | ||
| They're not. | ||
| Because they won't do that because then everyone's gonna be like, ahem, Mr. Obama, right this way sir, into this vehicle. | ||
| You know what though? | ||
| They're so shameless that they would prosecute Trump for something like that and just not look into Obama or Biden. | ||
| I mean that's the whole point here, right? | ||
| These people are all criminals. | ||
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And then all the people on Twitter would be like, well actually it's justified because in this instance... | |
| Yeah. | ||
| It's also dangerous, though, because when a Republican president will eventually get back into office, we will see attorney generals in different states say, hey, let's go indict a former Democrat. | ||
| Let's go investigate until we find something. | ||
| A good prosecutor could indict a rock. | ||
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So we don't know what the indictment is right now. | |
| It's definitely a process crime. | ||
| Which is kind of a joke and years ago they got Martha Stewart on a process crime So when you bring enough of a staff in front of the grand jury and somebody forgets one little thing because they can't have the exact memory Oh, you're lying. | ||
| So it's very easy when you have the whole weight of the Justice Department behind you millions of dollars They can get you on anything. | ||
| This is a real joke. | ||
| They're not gonna get him that he's holding documents because he's ex-president then you'd have to go get Biden you'd have to go get Pence and You have to go get Obama, so it's just going to be a silly process crime, but they want to stop Trump from running, and they want to stop him from... Do you guys want to see when a Republican is eventually president again, that attorney generals from red states go after former Democrats? | ||
| Absolutely, and former Republicans! | ||
| Go after Bush, go after Obama, go after Biden, go after all of them. | ||
| That's not how it would be though, it would be hyper-partisan. | ||
| Depends on the Republican, but you're probably right. | ||
| Most Republicans wouldn't, but I think somebody like Trump would. | ||
| Maybe, yeah. | ||
| I think part of what makes this country great and has made it great is that we haven't fallen into petty squabble like that in 250 years. | ||
| We just don't do that because we have bigger issues. | ||
| Shorten your time span here, buddy. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Eight years. | ||
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160. | |
| I mean, it's been since the Civil War, you could say. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, I guess, as far as a petty squabble, that wasn't petty. | ||
| Yeah, that was a big deal. | ||
| We had to end slavery and, you know, it was a big problem. | ||
| But this is like, he said, she said, he's carrying a box of documents, he signed this paperwork, he ordered that kill, he ordered that kill. | ||
| Like, yo, it's the biggest military in the world, it's the most dangerous machine on earth, and someone's got to point the buttons, point the guns. | ||
| There's so many more bigger problems on earth that we should be focused on than arresting past political opponents. | ||
| It's so ridiculous, man. | ||
| It's a dangerous escalation of a tit for tat is what's going to happen. Well, this is what's really shocking | ||
| I shouldn't say shocking but something worth pointing out and it's that | ||
| There are two segments of the population and they're relatively large demographics | ||
| Okay These are people who are either in category a willfully | ||
| ignorant or in category b not willfully ignorant Who believe that this is the first time since nixon that an | ||
| american president has done something? | ||
| worthy of pursuing with an indictment or charges. | ||
| There are people who are looking at this and they're saying, oh my goodness, all of our presidents have behaved within the law and haven't committed war crimes, haven't betrayed the American people, haven't betrayed their oath of office, and then Donald Trump came along and there are good reasons to indict that man and the best of them is that he had declassified documents that he declassified himself. | ||
| People are willing to believe this. | ||
| Well, the remarkable thing is, the logic makes no sense, if Trump can't declassify anything at any time, then he's literally not the authority of this country to have conversations pertaining to war. | ||
| How can you be the commander-in-chief of the armed forces, and then, this is the example I gave last time, it's like you meet with Vladimir Putin, and he's like, you know, I want you to move these missiles out of this territory. | ||
| What missiles? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay, we know the U.S. | ||
| has missiles here, you move them, otherwise it's war. | ||
| I'm sorry, I can't confirm or deny, I don't have the authority. | ||
| Biden probably does say what missiles, though, to be fair. | ||
| He's like, what are you talking about, man? | ||
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I don't know what you mean, what? | |
| Do we have missiles? | ||
| He gets on the phone, he's like, are there missiles in Ukraine? | ||
| There are! | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
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You think the implication- And then he gets off the line, he's like, I don't know if there's missiles there. | |
| I think that the implication is that Donald Trump didn't declassify the documents before | ||
| he took them. | ||
| There's no process for it. | ||
| OK. | ||
| The president has plenary declassification powers. | ||
| He can literally just be like, these are no longer classified. | ||
| So I had them on me, therefore they're not classified anymore. | ||
| He did say they were declassified, but they're like arguing there's some kind of formal process | ||
| by which the president does not need to get approval from someone else. | ||
| But they're not going after him on this. | ||
| Basically the report is that they're charging him with losing possession of classified documents | ||
| or something like that, or of sensitive national security documents. | ||
| So they're actually trying to avoid the question of whether or not he classified or declassified | ||
| by saying it's a totally different law. | ||
| Now losing control of secured documents is something Hillary Clinton did when she would | ||
| forward all that stuff to Jake Sullivan. | ||
| Like out of her 30,000 emails or whatever she had, I should have one that I could pull up right now that was legitimate national security risk. | ||
| But she was, as far as I understand, not supposed to be forwarding Secretary of State documents to this guy Jake Sullivan. | ||
| Well, Ian, I think there's a good argument to be made that every single one of the 30,000 emails that Hillary Clinton deleted was a potential national security risk if she were to be elected for one very simple reason. | ||
| She didn't want people to see those emails and there was a receiver, which means there were people who would have the leverage over the sitting President of the United States of being able to release these emails that she deleted when she was subpoenaed. | ||
| So... | ||
| That in and of itself means that someone else could end up pulling the strings, or someone else could end up being in a position where the president owes them this favor because they have blackmail. | ||
| You mean because someone else received documents from Hillary that means anyone could have them? | ||
| Well no, my point is, so Hillary Clinton has these 30,000 emails, and then she deletes all of them. | ||
| Because she clearly doesn't want an investigation to be looking into those emails. | ||
| She doesn't want the American people to see them. | ||
| Well, here's the thing. | ||
| She can only delete those emails on her end. | ||
| She can't go into the inbox of every person who received one of those emails and then delete it, which means there are people who had the emails that she didn't want the public to see, which means those people have dirt on her. | ||
| Have, you know, quote-unquote, information that could lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton. | ||
| And for as much as we joke about what happens to those people, and for as much as I've said, I think the real black pill is that no amount of information will lead to the arrest Yes, of Hillary Clinton. | ||
| The fact is, it is a massive liability for the President of the United States to have information out there that people can blackmail them with. | ||
| Yeah, I think they're sending it on a Blackberry. | ||
| CNN's reporting that it's seven counts in the indictment, according to sources. | ||
| They came out with, for the first one, like 31 counts, I think, of that first indictment. | ||
| And it was like, this is the same count for, it was like one problem, because the one problem was, you know, in 30 different emails, they were like, it's 30 different counts. | ||
| That's what they do. | ||
| Man, I don't even want to- it was more than 50,000 pages of private emails for Hillary, by the way. | ||
| I don't even want to prosecute Hillary. | ||
| I just want people to know about it. | ||
| Funny enough, we do need to prosecute Hillary. | ||
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We do. | |
| I was kind of glad he didn't go through with it, and I was devastated when he said that on stage, because it really did set a precedent. | ||
| I said Trump's not the only president with classified document problems because Joe Biden's also under investigation right now for something similar handling the mishandling of classified documents so maybe we should speed up that investigation too. | ||
| Well now we're taking it a step further because a VP can't declassify and neither can a senator, right? | ||
| He's the president now but there's reason to believe that he stored these while he was VP or while he was a senator. | ||
| But I'm sorry, continue. | ||
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But going back to what Hillary, it was only James Comey, that brilliant FBI director we had at the time, sat in front of a major press conference and said, she did ten things wrong, but I'm not going to pursue her. | |
| Could you imagine Merrick Garland or Jack Smith saying, well, Trump did ten things wrong, but we're not going to go after him. | ||
| Never. | ||
| Never. | ||
| Well, ladies and gentlemen, we do have more news because it's a heck of a day in this country. | ||
| I just want to mention one thing. | ||
| No, yeah, it was, um, the documents were specifically discovered in a place that he was using before the start of the 2020 campaign, right? | ||
| So these documents Biden had, had to have been collected while he was either VP or in the Senate. | ||
| In either case, he could not declassify. | ||
| Or not in office at all. | ||
| I mean, if he got them in 2017, he wasn't even serving in any capacity at that point. | ||
| So Joe Biden is actually, at the same time as Trump is being indicted, Joe Biden is being implicated in a bribery scheme, which it's expanding, we've known about it. | ||
| Fox News reports, Joe Biden allegedly paid $5 million by Burisma executive as part of a bribery scheme according to FBI document. | ||
| Biden's son Hunter was a board member of Burisma and also allegedly in on the scheme. | ||
| It's actually fairly simple. | ||
| They wanted the prosecutor fired. | ||
| The Post Millennial reports, MTG reveals FBI informant reported Biden was bribed to have the Ukrainian prosecutor fired who was investigating Burisma. | ||
| On Thursday, Rep. | ||
| MTG held an emergency event after reading the FBI's FD1023 form that alleges a bribery scheme involving Joe Biden during his days as vice president, revealing that payments were made to the Biden family by Burisma, the Ukrainian oil company which Hunter Biden sat on the board of. | ||
| Back in 2015-16, Burisma was looking to buy a US-based oil and gas company, and this came from being advised by Hunter Biden, advised by Hunter Biden and his partners. | ||
| Biden said Victor Shokin was corrupt. | ||
| This was around the same time of his meeting, which was when Joe Biden as vice president said that Prosecutor Shokin was corrupt. | ||
| So we basically know what happened. | ||
| Joe Biden goes to Ukraine, threatens the president. | ||
| He says, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you're not getting the loan guarantees, which is illegal. | ||
| He doesn't have the authority to do that. | ||
| Those are congressionally approved loan guarantees. | ||
| They told him that, and he says, call the president, see what he says. | ||
| He says, well, SOB, guy gets fired, and then we got in someone good, which is a complete fabrication. | ||
| Victor Shokin, the prosecutor, was investigating Burisma. | ||
| I think there was at least a dozen or more active investigations. | ||
| And now we have, from this FBI document, what appears to be confirmation. | ||
| It's all true. | ||
| The quid pro quo in this situation. | ||
| I remember a president getting impeached for something like this. | ||
| Yeah, quid pro quo. | ||
| I remember hearing that little phrase constantly. | ||
| This is the pro to the quid pro. | ||
| They impeached Donald Trump for what Joe Biden did. | ||
| And now they're trying to indict Donald Trump for something Joe Biden also did. | ||
| Also did. | ||
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And all Trump did was say, can you look into this? | |
| That's all. | ||
| And also, but even this, right? | ||
| I get the point you're making, but it's a false equivalency because With the stored documents, Biden had no power to declassify, and Trump did. | ||
| So when people say these are the same thing, it's like, well no, it's not! | ||
| Because what Biden did was worse! | ||
| And same here, right? | ||
| I don't know how to verify if they declassified it, because what if Obama's like, oh yeah, I declassified all that stuff Biden's got in his garage? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He's the president. | ||
| Yeah, he wasn't the president at the time. | ||
| Obama. | ||
| But if we found Obama had documents, well, he was the president, right? | ||
| But if the VP has documents that Obama declassified... Oh, I get what you're saying. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I misunderstood. | ||
| Well, we would need Obama to come forward and say, Yes, and I gave those to him and said, keep them in your garage. | ||
| That's a good idea. | ||
| And leave some at your weird little office in Chinatown. | ||
| I'll do that. | ||
| Good job, Joe. | ||
| Maybe that happened. | ||
| Maybe, but we have no reason to believe it. | ||
| Man, I want to know more about this FBI release. | ||
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If you took, we're all into politics, we watch this every day, but if you took an average group of people that didn't watch politics and you lined them up and you said, the crime, Trump had documents, Biden 5 million, so and so. | |
| I guarantee 90% of us that what Biden did is by far the worst. | ||
| And Tim, if you Google right now, I bet nobody has this covered in the media. | ||
| Except for Fox News. | ||
| Yeah, Mike Cernovich pointed out they timed the indictment with the... Day of release. | ||
| Yeah, the Burisma information. | ||
| However, If that's true, Trump's the one who posted about it. | ||
| To be fair, though, CNN did report it as well. | ||
| So maybe Trump came out and said this because it was getting picked up. | ||
| I think they were planning on releasing it next week, is what I saw, the indictment announcement. | ||
| But maybe because this was dropping today, they were like, let's just get it out early. | ||
| Yeah, CNN's reporting on the issue came 40 minutes after Trump's truth post. | ||
| So does it cite his truth post? | ||
| It does. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sounds like Trump wrote the story. | ||
| Get ahead of it, DT. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It may be that Trump is the one who Basically, look, the headline for this episode of TimCast IRL before the Donald Trump indictment came down was Joe Biden Burisma Scandal Report Confirms Bribery Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah | ||
| I gotta know more about this FBI document. | ||
| I mean, I don't know what to trust, who to trust. | ||
| I know there's a lot of evidence that Biden went over there and did some dirty work to get that prosecutor fired. | ||
| I mean, he admitted it in public. | ||
| And laughed about it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So last time Trump was indicted, he raised $34 million and got a little boost in the poll as a result of this. | ||
| What do you guys think the electoral consequences of this will be moving forward? | ||
| This is a federal indictment. | ||
| This is big. | ||
| Do you think it'll give him a bump and more like a rally around our guy effect as a result of this? | ||
| I have to wonder if they really just want Trump to be the nominee. | ||
| They definitely want Trump to be the nominee. | ||
| They don't want DeSantis. | ||
| Yeah, but do you think that's what the move here was to make it seem like we're going after Trump and then make, you know, all the Republicans defend him? | ||
| Because now, what is DeSantis going to say about this? | ||
| Well, I don't know what the move was or whether it was intentional, but what I will say is, even though earlier I alluded to the fact that there are some Americans out there and a disturbingly large number of Americans who think that You know, this is the first time in decades a president has done anything illegal or worth civil authorities looking into. | ||
| The reality is most people do know that's not true. | ||
| And so when one president is indicted by a system that they know is corrupt and that they know allows for elites to commit crimes and is allowed for other presidents to commit crimes, they go, Interesting. | ||
| Why him, right? | ||
| He must be doing something that's different from all the things these political leaders have been doing to screw us for a very long time. | ||
| I think people on both sides of the aisle and moderates can see that. | ||
| If you're a democratic strategist, you want Trump in the general, and then I don't, I mean, indictments are political, all of this is obviously political, but then indicting him to try to make him more More popular in the primary would be a decent democratic strategy. | ||
| Oh, you make him more popular in the primary than in the general? | ||
| You make it so he can't, that he has to step out? | ||
| You want him in the general because theoretically DeSantis does better against Biden, but also I'm thinking if you're indicted, it doesn't play as well to a general audience as it would to a primary audience. | ||
| The vibe I get is that they want to make it so that Donald Trump cannot run for president again, which is going to inflame so many millions and tens of millions of people. | ||
| Why on hell's green earth would they do that? | ||
| I mean, maybe they really believe that Donald Trump would win. | ||
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This one person has the authority to pardon him. | |
| Joe Biden, right? | ||
| What if he does? | ||
| Just be a nice guy, of course, man. | ||
| Superman. | ||
| I want to see some Biden-Superman memes if that happens. | ||
| That'd be an awesome coming-together moment if Trump was indicted for something and then Biden just told him, hey, it's okay. | ||
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Because if you're indicted for seven crimes by the feds, this is hard. | |
| This is really hard to get out of. | ||
| Yeah, because then Biden would be like, make America great again to Trump, and Trump's like, I will. | ||
| Let's put this partisanship behind us. | ||
| We don't need to indict Trump. | ||
| Let's just drop it now. | ||
| Let's move forward. | ||
| But the thing is, it's almost not partisanship because there are a lot of Republicans they would never do this to. | ||
| We have, but look what's happening right now. | ||
| We have news. | ||
| Joe Biden was allegedly paid $5 million as part of the Burisma bribery scheme, and we just keep going back to Trump. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know if that was the right play by Trump to be posting about this, because we would be just going heavy into Hunter Biden, the crack, the diary, all of this stuff. | ||
| Instead, it's like, yes, Joe Biden did this thing. | ||
| And anyway, here's Trump. | ||
| He fundraised so much after the first indictment. | ||
| I'm sure he's going to raise a ton of money after the second indictment, too. | ||
| But so this is an interesting point you're making because I've said in the past I think it's very possible that the left-wing establishment is trying to engage in another attempt at the Pied Piper strategy. | ||
| They want him to try to run for president or not just try but for him to get the nomination because they think he'll lose a general election. | ||
| But I've heard other people who believe that Trump would lose the general election kind of make the opposite argument to the one you're making. | ||
| So I was having a conversation with Will Chamberlain a couple of months ago on my podcast, and this was right when the documents being found at Joe Biden's house Was a news story and I asked him, why do you think that they would be leaking this now? | ||
| And his response was basically, I think the reason they're leaking this now is because they don't want to prosecute Trump because that might prevent him from running and they want him to run. | ||
| So I think prosecuting him or not prosecuting him could be taken as the Democrats wanting him to be able to run in 2024. | ||
| So it's tough to say. | ||
| He can run either way, but I think what they want to make sure is he is hindered from campaigning. | ||
| But they gotta know. | ||
| I mean, maybe they really don't know how good this is for his publicity. | ||
| What if Joe Biden gets indicted because of this story? | ||
| You know, the other story that we were talking about? | ||
| Oh yeah, the 5 million that he received, allegedly. | ||
| Everyone who runs just gets indicted, and then their VPs get indicted to a smaller jail. | ||
| No one knows what to do to win, so it's just different law enforcement agencies indicting each other. | ||
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That's your campaign now. Local sheriff is just like, oh, Joe Biden once was speeding in my neighborhood. | |
| It's like, well, I guess he's got to come to court and can't campaign anymore. Where's the, uh, | ||
| we haven't really read into this story much. Do you know what this alleged payment was for exactly? | ||
| To get the prosecutor fired. Yeah, we did. It was just straight, I guess we did. It was | ||
| just straightforward. Like, hey, here, get this guy fired. | ||
| But Burisma was being investigated by the prosecutor. | ||
| There were a dozen or more investigations. | ||
| And then Joe Biden swoops in and gets the guy fired, and then the investigation stops. | ||
| Did they send it to, like, a family trust or something? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| A Biden family trust? | ||
| I mean, we saw those emails. | ||
| We know about 10% for the big guy. | ||
| We know that this is what they've been doing. | ||
| Let me just add these layers and bring these stories together for you. | ||
| Joe Biden is the president right now. | ||
| It is his Department of Justice going after Donald Trump. | ||
| Donald Trump said, can you please look into this? | ||
| So they impeach him. | ||
| Then Joe Biden becomes president and now is going after Trump, presumably because he's the only one who knows. | ||
| Not literally, but he's going after the guy that tried to take him down. | ||
| And if Donald Trump gets elected, you know Joe Biden's in serious trouble and his family is too. | ||
| So Biden's probably like, screw it, burn it all down. | ||
| But I mean, this is what really tricks me out, man, is that these people would put selfish needs and wants and desires ahead of the good of humanity. | ||
| That's why they're in politics. | ||
| So Donald Trump posted a video, a video response. | ||
| We're going to play this video for you right now. | ||
| We have this from Truth Social. | ||
| He says, I'm an innocent man. | ||
| The Biden administration is totally corrupt. | ||
| This is election interference and a continuation of the greatest witch hunt of all time. | ||
| Make America great again. | ||
| Let's play the video. | ||
| Turn it up! | ||
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Turn it up! | |
| Get some lighting on your face, Don! | ||
| Very sadly, we're a nation in decline, and yet they go after a popular president, a president that got more votes than any sitting president in the history of our country, by far. | ||
| And did much better the second time in the election than the first. | ||
| And they go after him on a boxers hoax, just like the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax, and all of the others. | ||
| This has been going on for seven years. | ||
| They can't stop because it's election interference at the highest level. | ||
| There's never been anything like what's happened. | ||
| I'm an innocent man. | ||
| I'm an innocent person. | ||
| They had the Mueller hoax, the Mueller report. | ||
| And that came out, no collusion, after two and a half years. | ||
| That was set up by Hillary Clinton and Democrats. | ||
| But this is what they do. | ||
| This is what they do so well. | ||
| If they would devote their energies to honesty and integrity, it would be a lot better for our country. | ||
| They could do a lot better. | ||
| They could do a lot of great things. | ||
| But when you look at what's happened to our country in the last three years, we were energy independent, we had a strong military that wasn't woke, we were doing so well, we were respected all over the world, got the biggest tax cuts in history, biggest regulation cuts in history. | ||
| And what do you do? | ||
| You have a president where an election was taken, got more votes than any sitting president in history by far, never anything even close. | ||
| And they come after me because now we're leading in the polls again by a lot against Biden and against the Republicans by a lot. | ||
| But we're leading against Biden by a lot, a tremendous amount. | ||
| And we went up to a level that they figure the way they're going to stop us is by using what's called warfare. | ||
| And that's what it is. | ||
| This is warfare for the law. | ||
| And we can't let it happen. | ||
| We can't let it happen. | ||
| Our country is going to hell. | ||
| And they come after Donald Trump, weaponizing the Justice Department, weaponizing the FBI. | ||
| We can't let this continue to go on because it's ripping our country to shreds. | ||
| We have such big problems, and this shouldn't be one of them. | ||
| It's a hoax. | ||
| The whole thing is a hoax, just like Russia, Russia, Russia, just like the fake dossier was a hoax. | ||
| You saw the Durham report. | ||
| You saw the Mueller report. | ||
| It was all a big hoax. | ||
| You had two impeachments and they lost and we won. | ||
| And we had tremendous support. | ||
| But that was a hoax and a scam. | ||
| And now they're doing it again. | ||
| It's just a continuation. | ||
| Seven years, even after I'm out. | ||
| But it's called election interference. | ||
| They're trying to destroy your reputation so they can win an election. | ||
| That's just as bad as doing any of the other things that have been done over the last number of years, and especially during the 2020 election. | ||
| So I just want to tell you, I'm an innocent man. | ||
| I did nothing wrong. | ||
| And we will fight this out just like we've been fighting for seven years. | ||
| It would be wonderful if we could devote our full time to making America great again. | ||
| And that's exactly what we did. | ||
| But now, again, our country is in decline. | ||
| We're a failing nation. | ||
| And this is what they do. | ||
| I'm an innocent man. | ||
| We will prove that again. | ||
| Seven years of proving it. | ||
| And here we go again. | ||
| Very unfair. | ||
| But that's the way it is. | ||
| I just want to thank everybody. | ||
| We are doing something very special for our country. | ||
| We're putting America first. | ||
| I always put America first. | ||
| And that's why we were in a position. | ||
| Unfortunately, that position is no longer valid because they've done such a poor job, but we're in a position where we're going to make America great again. | ||
| I'm innocent, and we will prove that very, very soundly and hopefully very quickly. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| I think he said, I'm innocent, like, eight times. | ||
| Yeah, that would make, if someone cut that up and made an auto-tune of a song called I'm an Innocent Man, that would be so badass. | ||
| That actually would be. | ||
| And he is innocent. | ||
| Until proven guilty, he's innocent. | ||
| I think he's just generally innocent, because I don't believe anything they're levying against him, so... Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Mr. Weiss, you're a crisis guy, right? | ||
| So, what's going on here? | ||
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A lot of times I have this scenario with clients, and their lawyers always say, don't speak, don't speak, and I say, don't listen to lawyers, they're just gonna hold you back. | |
| It's very important that President Trump spoke right now. | ||
| 50, 60 million people want to hear from him. | ||
| He showed strength. | ||
| He showed confidence. | ||
| He showed that he's still in high spirits because most, probably most of his attorneys are saying, don't say anything. | ||
| Don't go out there. | ||
| Keep it quiet. | ||
| You might slip. | ||
| You might say something to Trump. | ||
| You never know. | ||
| But it's very important, I think, tonight that he spoke out and I would have given the advice, speak out. | ||
| What if like he posted a video and he was crying? | ||
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He's just a human. | |
| What kind of human goes through this? | ||
| It's unbelievable. | ||
| Seven years of torture. | ||
| And he's still trying to run. | ||
| But Trump's the kind of guy, I imagine, when the camera goes off, he starts, like, punching the wall. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| Yeah, I don't think he's the kind of person who's like, I can't believe they're doing this to me, like, why won't they stop? | ||
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He's the kind of guy who's like, I will destroy them! | |
| Build me something great so I can destroy it! | ||
| Build me another one! | ||
| I bet he's, like, raising his voice. | ||
| I bet he's going to his lawyer's back, like, WHY ISN'T ANYTHING GETTING DONE?! | ||
| HOW IS THIS STILL HAPPENING?! | ||
| I WANT LAWYERS! | ||
| Yeah, he looked like he was freaking out in that video. | ||
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I was there the night he got indicted from the, uh, the city district attorney. | |
| And he was, he flew right in and did a big speech at Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| We went upstairs afterwards, and he's DJing the whole night, two in the morning. | ||
| What? | ||
| Like on the record? | ||
| He's DJing? | ||
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He takes his iPad, he takes the iPad when he's there, and he becomes the DJ. | |
| That's awesome! | ||
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He plays the tunes. | |
| Are you serious? | ||
| He's just picking music? | ||
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That night, yeah. | |
| He goes from Sinatra to Elton John. | ||
| I'd rather imagine it with like the one headphone. | ||
| You ruined that by giving more details. | ||
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It's a cartoon music. | |
| He just got indicted. | ||
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And he's playing tunes at two in the morning and having a great time. | |
| I said, unbelievable. | ||
| I think he's a DJ. | ||
| He's like getting indicted. | ||
| This is the coolest president we've ever had. | ||
| It's not even a question. | ||
| He's probably got a lot of street cred. | ||
| Trouble with the law? | ||
| Yeah, we did a cartoon about that a little while ago and now it's happening again. | ||
| It's like, I don't know why I bother to keep making these every week when the news is just reruns now. | ||
| One of my favorite lines from him that he says constantly, and he said it a couple times in this speech, is that he received the most votes of any sitting president, specifically, because Biden wasn't a sitting president, obviously, at the time, but he keeps saying that. | ||
| The most votes of any sitting president. | ||
| He's not sitting right now, quite frankly. | ||
| He's laying down. | ||
| You know he's not awake. | ||
| It's just like a funny cop-out when he's not the president right now and he just keeps saying that. | ||
| It's true, though. | ||
| It is true. | ||
| From a sitting president, yeah, but Biden's still got more votes. | ||
| But his point is no other, uh... What is it? | ||
| No other sitting president received more votes than lost? | ||
| Sure, but we're a growing population with more voter participation every four years, so it's like a... | ||
| We've never had more money in our economy than we do right now. | ||
| COVID played a major role in why this didn't look the same way as it did, because they basically just locked everybody in boxes and then tortured them for a year. | ||
| And then mail-in ballots, that played a huge role, which DeSantis said he wants to start doing aggressively, and we'll see if Trump follows up with a similar strategy. | ||
| I think he will. | ||
| Don Jr. | ||
| was talking about it. | ||
| I mean, he doesn't speak for Trump. | ||
| The fabric of this nation has been ripped to shreds. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| And now it's just, you know, before it was things were heating up, now at the highest level, like the fact that the Biden DOJ is just like, well I can't beat him so let's lock him in jail! | ||
| But like, ripping the fabric apart... | ||
| If the fabric is being used to suffocate your friend and you rip the fabric to shreds and save your friend's life, then maybe that fabric needed to be ripped apart anyway. | ||
| So, like, are we better off or worse off since Trump became president and not Hillary? | ||
| Well, that doesn't quite make sense, right? | ||
| The fabric of this country is what stops people from fighting each other in the streets. | ||
| The fabric of this country is the basic rule set of, look, we're not going to indict our political rival. | ||
| We're going to let people vote about these things. | ||
| We're not going to make up BS charges. | ||
| Right now, in the public sphere, we know for a fact Joe Biden is corrupt. | ||
| Politico wrote about this years ago. | ||
| Biden, Inc. | ||
| We know that his family's fortunes have tracked his career in federal government. | ||
| We now have another story basically confirming he was getting bribes to fire the prosecutor. | ||
| Joe Biden publicly admitted he went to the president of Ukraine and said, fire the prosecutor or I will illegally withhold loan guarantees. | ||
| He just came out and said it, and they don't do anything about it. | ||
| If the people of this country know for a fact that the government has been weaponized against one half of the population, like, we are dangerously close to whatever you want to call it. | ||
| I think the metaphor you were looking for, Ian, was like, a fracture doesn't heal fully, but you need to break the arm completely for it to heal fully. | ||
| Not that I agree with that's what should happen, but if your bone is fractured, then it doesn't heal completely, but if it breaks completely, then it does properly heal. | ||
| That's a bad metaphor for what I think should happen in the nation, but I think that's a cleaner metaphor for what you were looking for. | ||
| You know, Biden is so fascinating to me. | ||
| He's this, he's like, for as much as people say this about Trump, Biden is this character study in the hubris of man because he's so late in his life and he's putting such little emphasis on his soul and so much emphasis on money and being corrupt in order to enrich himself and his family. | ||
| About Joe Biden? | ||
| Well, firstly, Kennedy, if we're including fake Catholics, Kennedy was a fake Catholic president before Joe Biden. | ||
| No, I think Kennedy was actually practicing, but we know behind the scenes. | ||
| He was doing Maryland Monroe, wasn't he? | ||
| Yeah, we know there was some stuff going on there that would throw him outside of like, you know, he was not practicing. | ||
| Isn't Biden Irish too? | ||
| My point is, yeah, no, I know you can't trust those guys. | ||
| That's my whole argument. | ||
| That's the whole point. | ||
| But Joe Biden, I mean, Catholics and politics are— No Irish flag behind you in that. | ||
| I know. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| When was there ever one? | ||
| You know, the Catholics don't need to get into politics because the Vatican has so much power— I don't know about that, dude. | ||
| —they don't even bother. | ||
| They don't step down into the politics realm. | ||
| They already— Is that how you feel in America? | ||
| —it's kind of a joke. | ||
| No, but I do think religious institutions may have more influence and power over Earth than sitting governments. | ||
| I mean, but, well, that's the thing, you know, I'm Catholic, I love my church, but, you know, there are obviously people in the Catholic Church I've been very critical of, and people in the hierarchy, and I think it was Chesterton who said this, but one of the reasons I believe it's the true church is because I don't know how an organization can spend so much time being corrupt and still exist. | ||
| It's been like 2,000 years with these horrible priests and bishops, and we're still here. | ||
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Who's going to have faith in the justice system anymore after this? | |
| Oh, nobody. | ||
| But after this, it's such a joke. | ||
| They've got to do something good. | ||
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For me to regain faith in them, they'd have to do something really... We have videos of the hunt of Biden that you can't show even an 18-year-old. | |
| Agreed, but you know what? | ||
| You know what I'll say is that at this point we've become so tribal that credibility is irrelevant. | ||
| People are going to side with their team, even if they know they're lying. | ||
| Let's talk dirty politics. | ||
| We have this story from TimCast.com. | ||
| DeSantis' campaign uses AI-generated deepfake images of Trump embracing Fauci in a new ad. | ||
| Is he kissing him? | ||
| Yes, he is. | ||
| Trump hugging and kissing. | ||
| And I also want to point out, look at Trump's, see his hand right here? | ||
| Look at Trump's seven-foot-long arm. | ||
| He's embracing Fauci, and his arm goes all the way around Fauci. | ||
| Like, just think about how long his left arm is, and how he's holding Fauci, and then how his other arm wraps all the way around. | ||
| Yeah, it's clearly a deepfake. | ||
| And so this is the DeSantis War Room. | ||
| They ran an ad that says, Donald Trump became a household name by firing countless people on television. | ||
| But when it came to Fauci, in the video, they run this image. | ||
| It says, Real Life Trump, and the top left, the bottom middle, and bottom right are AI-generated images of Trump hugging and kissing Dr. Fauci. | ||
| Wow now look People like this people thought this was real this this video. | ||
| I believe it's actually from it's from What is it from June 5th? | ||
| I think the original post is actually a few a few days before but let's just say June 5th That's the date listed on Twitter Nobody noticed anything until today. | ||
| I saw people posting saying, hey, wait a minute. | ||
| The DeSantis campaign generated fake images to smear Donald Trump as favoring Dr. Fauci. | ||
| You don't need to smear Trump. | ||
| He wouldn't fire the guy. | ||
| He says he couldn't. | ||
| Schedule F. That I understand. | ||
| But he very much let Dr. Fauci do his thing during COVID. | ||
| The fact that they went this far, they opened the gates, Yo, this is, look, we're talking about indictments, we're talking about the DOJ. | ||
| Welcome to modern politics. | ||
| They're going to start generating fake AI images of you, doing something to smear you, and this is a serious ad meant to make people believe Donald Trump actually was good friends with Fauci. | ||
| Oh my gosh, they should have a disclaimer that that's fake, because a cartoon you would know. | ||
| No, they're defending it, they're doubling down. | ||
| All the dissented supporters are doubling down hardcore saying, we are allowed to do this because Donald Trump once posted a picture of Ron DeSantis riding a rhinoceros. | ||
| Which everyone thought was real, of course, at the time, and people didn't want to vote for DeSantis because of the animal cruelty. | ||
| Here's a picture of Ron on a rhinoceros, and the response I got was, hey Tim, what dis? | ||
| Because I said, the intentional act of making a fake image, putting it in a collage to trick people into thinking that Trump liked Dr. Fauci, Is one million times different from Trump insulting Ron DeSantis. | ||
| Also, yeah, no, and there's context to those photographs too, which you mentioned it's in a collage of other photographs, but they're talking about Trump being too soft on Fauci. | ||
| And it says real life Trump on it! | ||
| And Trump was not making any specific claim about, firstly, it's poorly photoshopped, it's obviously a joke, but secondly, Trump was not making like a claim about DeSantis riding rhinos. | ||
| So, everybody responded to me saying, why aren't you disavowing Donald Trump for his use of deepfakes? | ||
| And I said, what use? | ||
| And they post that, and I'm like, that's a photoshop of Ron on a rhinoceros, are you joking? | ||
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And you know it's fake, he has a suit on. | |
| They're like, these deepfakes are getting two of Putin riding a bear. | ||
| And they said, Donald Trump posted a fake AI Twitter space, and I said, you mean with the devil and Hitler? | ||
| So here's what I tweeted. | ||
| I said, you know what? | ||
| They're all mad. | ||
| I say, I hereby disavow Trump for posting a video of the devil and Hitler in a chat room making fun of DeSantis. | ||
| Many DeSantis supporters thought it was real, and it was wrong for Trump to post it. | ||
| Then, when this guy tweets at me, what about this picture? | ||
| And it's Trump riding, or it's Ron DeSantis riding a rhinoceros, I said, I once again, I hereby once again disavow Donald J. Trump. | ||
| He posted a picture of Ron DeSantis riding a rhinoceros, and many DeSantis supporters thought it was real. | ||
| It was wrong of Trump to mislead these people in this way, and Trump must apologize for confusing dissenter supporters with this image, and the dude deleted it. | ||
| The argument that you can make fake news, fake images to trick people, is in no way the same as Trump being a dick. | ||
| And then people are like, how come, what about Alex Brusiewicz? | ||
| He posts memes? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| There was an image of George Soros in the background somewhere, and then he posted something, this was another thing they're criticizing him for, where he said, apparently this wasn't George Soros, but I have to wonder. | ||
| And it's like, okay. | ||
| And then other people, random people online who are not Donald Trump, There is a big difference between Ron DeSantis' official campaign, his staff, producing fake images to trick people into thinking Trump did a thing he did not do, and Trump posting a picture of Ron on a rhinoceros. | ||
| But I'm sorry, I guess if they really believe that happened, they were like, Ron never rode a rhinoceros! | ||
| Trump's lying! | ||
| But here's the thing, I'm a highly trained skeptic, so when I saw that picture of Ron on a rhinoceros, I didn't think it was real, but I thought, man, this deepfake technology is getting way too convincing. | ||
| That's right! | ||
| This is clearly Ron DeSantis on a rhino. | ||
| I'm sorry, like, dude, you can by all means criticize any Trump supporter for posting fake information 100%. | ||
| But the idea that because some people associated with Trump posted questionable things they found on the internet justifies the intentional act of posting deepfakes to lie about Donald Trump. | ||
| This is, it's laughably absurd. | ||
| Sorry, have a nice day. | ||
| I was saying before that I was like, you know, I really like DeSantis. | ||
| He does great in Florida. | ||
| He's given us everything he's wanted. | ||
| His charisma is not there. | ||
| I'm leaning towards Trump simply because Trump's likely to fire all these people. | ||
| Now, there is absolutely no way I will support Ron DeSantis unless he comes out explicitly disavowing the use of deepfakes to manipulate people. | ||
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I think they're probably these strategists he has, all this money, how do we go, let's keep on this Fauci crusade, that he was so close to Fauci he wouldn't fire him, and maybe the pictures didn't have that hug, so let's just shove in the hug, right? | |
| Let's just add these two extra pictures, it will really push the envelope and show how close they were. | ||
| And people won't pick up on it, that's fake, but, you know? | ||
| Not just a hug, a kiss! | ||
| You know, they could have just settled for a hug. | ||
| They got one where he's smooching right on the nose there. | ||
| And they wrote real-life Trump. | ||
| They show a bunch of real clips of Trump saying why he wouldn't fire Fauci. | ||
| Legitimate criticism. | ||
| And then it says real-life Trump, and it shows him hugging and kissing. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| To the left, the White House... The room doesn't even make sense. | ||
| But the White House emblem, it says, Mehehap. | ||
| Whems. | ||
| Because AI can't make language. | ||
| They could have at least photoshopped it, I suppose. | ||
| So, what was their argument? | ||
| That real life was only written on the pictures that were actually literally real, so they weren't trying to... No, no, no! | ||
| That's what they're saying. | ||
| The one that they put real life on... No, none of this was on it. | ||
| I don't believe that. | ||
| Yes, it is. | ||
| Oh, those were in the ad? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I'll play the ad for you. | ||
| I'll pull it up. | ||
| These are in the ad. | ||
| Like... You're fired. | ||
| Let's play the ad. | ||
| Here you go. | ||
| You're fired. | ||
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You're all fired. | |
| All four are fired. | ||
| You're fired. | ||
| The day I walk in, I hear I'm gonna fire him. | ||
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I'm not firing him. | |
| I think he's a wonderful guy. | ||
| Should you have fired Fauci? | ||
| So, a lot of people ask me that question. | ||
| And I did it right. | ||
| Because if you do fire him, you're gonna have a firestorm on the left again. | ||
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Why did you feel unable to fire Fauci? | |
| Personally, you're not allowed to. | ||
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Every time he goes on television, there's always a bomb. | |
| But there's a bigger bomb if you fire him. | ||
| Frankly, you can't win that one. | ||
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If I would have done it, I would have taken heat. | |
| Alright, I'm gonna say, when it said real-life Trump on a picture of him hugging Fauci that isn't real, Trump has grounds to sue. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, well, absolutely. | ||
| Look at this, it's in the video! | ||
| And there's a, we've got Birdwatch, or whatever it's called, Community Notes. | ||
| At 25 seconds in this video, a collage of photos of President Trump hugging Anthony Fauci appear. | ||
| These pictures are not real, they're AI-generated images, and... | ||
| It says real life Trump, whilst quoting Trump. | ||
| Fake, fake, fake. | ||
| The DeSantis campaign should get ahead of this and be like, these were deep fakes, before they get sued into oblivion. | ||
| Oh, dude, there's no debate anymore. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| There's no debate. | ||
| Any now debate Rhonda Sanders tries to have with Trump, Trump wins instantly. | ||
| Rhonda's gonna be like, Donald Trump wouldn't fire Dr. Fauci, and Trump's gonna be like, fake news! | ||
| He made fake photos and ran those! | ||
| Here it is! | ||
| And said they were real. | ||
| That undermines, and I've been very clear about where I stand on Trump vs. DeSantis, but I will say that undermines one of the good points that DeSantis actually does have about Trump. | ||
| That undermines one of the good arguments against Trump, even though I support him, to say, yeah, he didn't fire Fauci, that was a serious flaw, he should have, is something that is credible and it's powerful. | ||
| And to completely undermine that by having a hand-generated picture of him kissing Fauci on the nose while he hugs him, What would your crisis response team be to something like this? | ||
| Double down, or what? | ||
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To DeSantis? | |
| How should his response be? | ||
| He probably should disavow, or if he fired somebody that created this, then it would... He's gotta fire the top. | ||
| Blame somebody else. | ||
| Find a subordinate, say this was their idea, I didn't approve. | ||
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If you purposely put up fake photos in an ad, it's not just putting up a meme on Twitter. | |
| It's different, right? | ||
| You had to go through a whole process. | ||
| Let's make the ad, let's make the scoop. | ||
| What do you put here? | ||
| Put the photo. | ||
| And somebody said, let's put two fake photos of Trump. | ||
| Three. | ||
| And DeSantis has to know about that. | ||
| They had to bring him the ad at the end. | ||
| Yeah, what I noticed didn't happen is DeSantis didn't go, I'm Ron DeSantis and I approve this message. | ||
| They used to have to do that or would do that in commercials. | ||
| It's possible, even if Ron... Could be his PAC. | ||
| Could be his PAC? | ||
| No, this is DeSantis' worm. | ||
| It was, according to multiple reports, Christina Pasha, who employed directly by DeSantis, made this account. | ||
| I don't know who made the video, but it's possible that DeSantis saw the video, and it's a 40-second video, and he looks at it and he's like, it's great, run it. | ||
| Not realizing they put deep fakes in it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I think, if they try and pull a, we didn't know, and so we're gonna hire John Herbowitz, he was the one who did it, I will not be satisfied. | ||
| I'm like, I don't know who that is. | ||
| You can't come to me and say, Underling is at fault. | ||
| Not, sorry. | ||
| Look, man. | ||
| We knew this was coming, we've warned about it. | ||
| It's one thing, and it's bad enough, that they cut Trump out of context and lie about him. | ||
| It is also bad enough that there are people who support Trump that make fake things and then they get shared by people in the Trump camp, in like the Trump circle and things like that. | ||
| But to intentionally run an ad with fake images to smear your political opponent is crossing the line directly, and it opens the door to a very dark future. | ||
| That's why it's like, hey, we knew someone was gonna do it, Ron DeSantis said he was going to lead out. | ||
| But man, it says that this is real. | ||
| It says real-life Trump with a picture of him that is not real-life Trump. | ||
| So, good God, what did you guys do? | ||
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This really opens up the floodgates for RFK to do ads against Biden, right? | |
| We were talking about this before the show, and I was just saying, I can't imagine. | ||
| Trump's going to run ads. | ||
| Trump is going to make an ad and it's going to be like some woman. | ||
| Pax are going to do this. | ||
| You're going to hear a woman go, Ron DeSantis' campaign is making fake images of Trump to smear him. | ||
| Don't trust dishonest Ron. | ||
| They're going to be running that like crazy. | ||
| And it'll be like an image of a serpent with Ron's head on it and stuff like that. | ||
| All these wild, deep fakes. | ||
| And it's going to say real-life Ron on the picture of the serpent. | ||
| Real life Ron. | ||
| That should be his nickname for Ron. | ||
| But anything now that Ron DeSantis says, Trump can easily just be like, are you going to believe him? | ||
| The guy who makes fake images to win arguments? | ||
| I don't want to insult Ron, but I get the vibe that he's just a guy that was in the right place at the right time. | ||
| That he's not really special. | ||
| He's not really super smart. | ||
| He doesn't have the best people around him. | ||
| And now they want him in the public because they don't like Donald Trump. | ||
| So anyone will do. | ||
| This guy's establishment. | ||
| Let's just get him up there. | ||
| He'll be fine. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| I think that's a little harsh. | ||
| Again, I prefer Trump as of now, but also DeSantis is somebody who did stand up to the COVID regime and the lockdown regime and he pushed back against it and he did stand up to the media. | ||
| I do think he's very intelligent. | ||
| I wouldn't go as far as to say he's just like a mediocre politician like the rest of them. | ||
| I think he's a step above. | ||
| I do too. | ||
| I think what he did with COVID was groundbreaking. | ||
| You could argue that it saved the republic in a way. | ||
| It was an indication of how to save a republic. | ||
| I won't support DeSantis at all. | ||
| Unless he disavows and we see some real terminations over this. | ||
| The DeSantis campaign choosing to focus on Fauci specifically is a genius move. | ||
| It is such a potent attack, especially because there are so many Trump supporters who do have so many questions about Operation Warp Speed and Fauci, but they just overplayed their hand for no good reason. | ||
| This was like a very stupid misplay. | ||
| You didn't have to do it. | ||
| Trump was already praising Operation Warp Speed still. | ||
| He didn't fire Fauci for whatever reason, and that's a whole different conversation. | ||
| And they could have kept hitting him on this, but such an unforced error is so stupid, frankly. | ||
| And the response from DeSantis' hardcore fans is it's almost as if they're actually leftists or Trump supporters trying to sabotage Ron DeSantis. | ||
| You can't come out and be like, but Trump posted Ron on a rhinoceros. | ||
| If that's your argument, you're just trying to make DeSantis supporters look really, really dumb. | ||
| There's no argument. | ||
| Literally, DeSantis camp should come out and be like, these got mixed in. | ||
| They could say, we didn't make these, we saw them, we put it in the ad, it's our mistake, we didn't check, we disavow, we apologize, it'll never happen again. | ||
| If it's true, I don't want them lying to people. | ||
| No, I'm saying that's their best out, in my opinion. | ||
| Or I could be like, the guy that created this, it was an oversight on my part, I didn't realize the amount of damage it could do to the political process, and he's fired, and I'm not gonna ever do this again. | ||
| We should say if a deepfake is a deepfake. | ||
| But you don't know the person they're firing actually did it. | ||
| True. | ||
| That's what I want to ask. | ||
| They're gonna say some random name, they're gonna say, you know, Ian Coghlan is the guy who did it, so he's fired, and then Ian Coghlan's gonna be like, I just work in the mailroom! | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| They stick a name to it and they say, we're good. | ||
| Well, I wanted to be honest about it. | ||
| I wanted to honestly take the person to task that created this and thought it was a good idea. | ||
| Next year, deepfake technology will be 100-fold better than this. | ||
| I'm concerned what's going to happen is only after the ashes do people realize we need to legislate. | ||
| This went unnoticed for three days, I believe. | ||
| I believe it was posted June 5th at 3 p.m. | ||
| So this went unnoticed for three days, and it could have easily continued to have gone unnoticed. | ||
| And I think that just speaks to the future of what we are going to see with much more compelling AI. | ||
| We didn't catch this, like, Tim said, like, oh, the wording was off. | ||
| If somebody kept, like, took a good eye to this, they would have been able to spot it. | ||
| But three days, there's going to be a ton of stuff that a lot of people miss. | ||
| And a lot of articles are probably written about it. | ||
| Smaller ones being, like, DeSantis hits Trump on Fauci, and then they did not realize. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I mean, it really is going to get to a point where we look back and we say, anything that was published before 2023, as far as photography goes, can be inspected to see if it's photoshopped or not, and so we can trust that. | ||
| Or, I think even a point before 2023, because maybe there are people who had this technology before it became widely available and were using it, and we'll find out about that at some point. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| But I think that's gonna, we are gonna get to a point where we'll kind of only be able to verify things that are old enough. | ||
| I was so wrong when I went on Rogan and he asked me about deepfake technology and I said no I'm not super concerned because people have trust and he asked me if I thought it was gonna get bad and I said I didn't think so and now that it's all happening it's just like it is gonna be worse than anyone realizes. | ||
| What's going to happen is, we're going to get to a point where what they're going to say is, any image generated after 2023 is not real. | ||
| And you're going to be like, well, clearly some of them are real, like, yes, but they can never be, they're no longer admissible in court. | ||
| Like, one of the big things that's going to happen, I have already witnessed this, courts have admitted fake AI generated images. | ||
| We saw it with Kyle Rittenhouse. | ||
| But I can tell you about other court cases, definitively, that have said they absolutely will admit deepfake videos, and it is the responsibility of the person disputing it to prove it's not real. | ||
| That's what the courts are saying right now. | ||
| Man, people put a lot of faith in the intelligence of the authority and they're not necessarily intelligent people. | ||
| It's going to be wild. | ||
| That's insane, the idea that the burden has to be on you to prove these things wrong. | ||
| We were talking about this with another guest who suggested there's going to have to be an entire new field of forensics that builds up to dispel these things. | ||
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It's not possible. | |
| But I think in the long run, well I mean yeah, but that's the point I'm making is I think in the long run it might become impossible. | ||
| The technology will get so good that you can't investigate these things. | ||
| It's impossible now. | ||
| The remedy for someone introducing deepfakes to court is for you to bring an expert in. | ||
| So what happens is, let's say you have actual video evidence of Donald Trump doing a backflip. | ||
| And you're in court and you say, Your Honor, Trump did the backflip, here's the video. | ||
| And Trump goes, it's not real, it's a fake video. | ||
| And then Trump's team just goes to an expert and says, is it real? | ||
| And they go, yeah, that's real. | ||
| I said, okay, next expert, is that real? | ||
| Yeah, that's real. | ||
| Next expert, is that real? | ||
| How much are you gonna pay me? | ||
| What's your rate? | ||
| $5,000 a day. | ||
| We'll pay you that. | ||
| It's fake. | ||
| Come on down to Chinatown. | ||
| I bring him into the courtroom and then he says it's fake. | ||
| What's extra unnerving to this, too, is that it'll bring all photos and videos, even of the past, into question. | ||
| And then there's gonna be revisionist history for everything, and it's gonna be very bad. | ||
| This is the door right now. | ||
| Images of Donald Trump hugging Dr. Fauci. | ||
| And if you take a look at them, if they only used the one on the bottom right, That they would've gotten away with it. | ||
| The one in the middle, in the bottom, where Trump has his arms around him and he's holding his fist, is very strange. | ||
| The top left, with Mehehapwems in the White House emblem, clearly fake. | ||
| The one in the bottom right, you can't really tell, except for the textures. | ||
| And someone might say, no, that's real. | ||
| They could argue that. | ||
| They made the mistake of using three, with one being discernibly fake, which then provides evidence the other ones are likely fake, too. | ||
| Obviously, though, man, from a distance, I'm sitting at, they all look real. | ||
| This all looks real to me from where I'm at. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Now imagine you're in an airport, and this ad runs on the TV, or a news outlet covers the ad and says, take a look at this ad run by the DeSantis campaign. | ||
| And then you see, on a grainy television far away, Trump hugging DeSantis. | ||
| That's the point. | ||
| DeSantis. | ||
| Now we're talking. | ||
| Hugging Fauci. | ||
| DeSantis' campaign releases an ad. | ||
| Forgiveness. | ||
| Donald Trump endorses us. | ||
| He wants you to vote for us instead. | ||
| Kiss him on the nose. | ||
| They put Trump's voice in the AI generator? | ||
| That could be. | ||
| Are you allowed to make claims about what other people said and did that they didn't do? | ||
| That's where we're going. | ||
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But it's been two years. | |
| Do they have some kind of polling? | ||
| We don't have these. | ||
| So he gave him another hug. | ||
| Is it really going to boost DeSantis and not Trump? | ||
| Like a quarter to a third of Trump's base, those diehards, absolutely hate the vaccine stuff, and hate the Fauci stuff, hate all the lockdown, Operation Warp Speed, think all that stuff is super toxic. | ||
| And I do think it was a potent message, the more he brought it up. | ||
| But now overplaying his hand, kind of... | ||
| ruins it. Exactly. Like when Trump, you know, he can bring this up and he can say, | ||
| you didn't fire Fauci, you pushed the vaccines. Oh, did I kiss him on the nose, Ron? Really? | ||
| Did I give him a big bear hug and kiss him on the nose? | ||
| This man's ridiculous. | ||
| Right. Just easy to dismiss. Why exaggerate if the truth is already bad enough? Even focus on | ||
| Operation Warp Speed because a lot of Trump supporters are really against that. But like, | ||
| to do something so stupid, again, unfortunately. That's why I said the not intelligent vibe I get | ||
| from him or that he's surrounded himself with really poorly educated, like people that just don't get it. | ||
| because why would you do that? | ||
| Why would you sabotage yourself when your enemy is making a mistake? | ||
| It's like the oldest art of war obvious... Someone just pointed something out. | ||
| The bottom image with Trump hugging Fauci is actually, look, it's a Photoshop from when he hugged the flag. | ||
| So you remember the picture of Trump hugging the flag? | ||
| It does look like that, I'm not 100% sure. | ||
| That's kind of how AI works too. | ||
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I think AI also takes things, yeah. | |
| So where this goes, we are going to video and photos, and what can you do about it? | ||
| I know. | ||
| That's why I think it's so important to call this out and say no to it, because If, and this is why I'm like, the DeSantis supporters are doing everything in their power to hurt Ron DeSantis. | ||
| Because there's no excuse for using fake images to smear a political opponent right now. | ||
| We know how dangerous the AI stuff is going to be. | ||
| We need to put a hard line in the sand right now and say, we will not tolerate this in any capacity. | ||
| And the DeSantis supporters are like, no, it's fine. | ||
| And you know what's actually really creepy? | ||
| Because Trump posted these funny images, and this is okay. | ||
| I could also see this technology increasing the demand for a surveillance state because | ||
| people could say things like, well, look, if you have the GPS chip on your phone tracking you at | ||
| all time, you can actually confirm where you were at any given date and time. And so you | ||
| could debunk certain deepfakes with that information. More like more, more, more. | ||
| Well, I wonder if. Accountability. | ||
| Well, not so much that as much as I'm saying, like, I think because of the deepfake technology, | ||
| people who are very concerned about being deepfaked could turn to other methods of documenting their | ||
| life that we currently consider invasive, like having your smartphone track you everywhere you | ||
| are all the time and then deliver the data to you or to some larger database that could confirm | ||
| that you really were there. Something like that. | ||
| I would agree. | ||
| to put the onus of proof on the person that's offering the image or the video. | ||
| I think the solution to this is going to be a ton more media literacy in the public and | ||
| you will not be, you're going to have to not believe literally a single thing, a video | ||
| or picture that you see on the internet and you will have to question it. | ||
| I am not 100% sure this is real and it's sad because the media literacy in our public is | ||
| already very low. | ||
| Twitter is not helping, but it's going to be crucial moving forward as we're seeing AI and disinformation and misinformation in the flesh actually exist. | ||
| Well, you got to wonder if, you know, five, ten years from now, people see these things and they say, do you see the footage of him doing that? | ||
| Well, yeah, that's just a video. | ||
| You know, it's just video footage, whatever. | ||
| It's easily faked. | ||
| I think we're going back to the Dark Ages, in a sense. | ||
| There was a time period where we did not know what was going on. | ||
| A hundred, two hundred years ago, you're living on a farm, and then the newspaper man comes to town. | ||
| And you go, oh, but the newspaper's here! | ||
| And then they all get together, and then he's like, I got the paper, here's what's happened in New York, and you're like, wow, and that was a month ago. | ||
| It's funny. | ||
| Like a month ago, a ship came and it carried a bunch of ivory, and I'm like, what? | ||
| They called it the Dark Ages, but it was really like the Blind Ages, like too much light will blind you, and you may as well be dark, because you can't see anything. | ||
| That's a very good way of putting it. | ||
| That's exactly what, yeah, exactly it. | ||
| We're entering a period where it's, we can call it the Light Ages, where there's so much information, we're blinded by it, and we can't see what's going on. | ||
| Soon enough, the only place you'll be able to know things are real from is TimCast News. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That's the only way. | ||
| But you're a robot. | ||
| But you don't want to say we can't be deepfaked. | ||
| It's not possible. | ||
| Anything you see of us is real. | ||
| Well, Seamus is actually not a real person. | ||
| I'm not even real. | ||
| I'm a computer algorithm, it's true. | ||
| I remember you being a potato. | ||
| That's extremely offensive. | ||
| Firstly, you're going to hear from my lawyer, my friend. | ||
| The reason he was off the show for so long was because the computer that generates his voice and image is broken. | ||
| It broke down, yeah. | ||
| I accidentally poured some Coca-Cola on it. | ||
| And it's powered by a potato. | ||
| I feel like asking people not to use this technology is like asking people not to use the newest weapon that was developed. | ||
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| And it's not who the hell, like maybe you can get a non-proliferation treaty for all the weaker countries around Earth, but the big superpowers are definitely going to weaponize using it. | ||
| Technology's inevitable. | ||
| You can't stop it. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Well, yeah, because I remember there was some talk of... Elon Musk was talking about this a few months ago. | ||
| A bunch of people signing an agreement to stop or slow down the development of AI. | ||
| Okay, well, let's see if China agrees to that. | ||
| Let's see if Russia agrees to that. | ||
| Let's see if, like, any other technological power is willing to hold off on the development of this unbelievably profitable and powerful technology. | ||
| Yeah, let's see if OpenAI agrees to it. | ||
| A decade ago we were having the same conversation about genetic engineering and how we should stop researching it, but nobody across the world was going to get on board with that, and I don't believe the solution is trying to stop the advancement of the technology. | ||
| You think you should just use it better than anyone else? | ||
| Well, if we stop doing it, China's not going to stop. | ||
| So we need to figure out the correct way to use it. | ||
| And like in the genetic engineering conversation is like finding the right way to attack and defend against diseases that are potentially made in the future. | ||
| Yeah, gain of function. | ||
| Look where genetic engineering got us! | ||
| I mean, I know that's a whole big... Fauci, I can't believe Trump didn't fire him! | ||
| I hear ya! | ||
| Turn it around, you snake! | ||
| Operation Warp Speed! | ||
| No, look, I agree with you on both of those things. | ||
| When you guys are doing publicity, Adam, do you do, like, ethics? | ||
| Are they involved? | ||
| Do you have to account for ethics, or do you just do whatever you gotta do to get it done? | ||
| Is it about winning or is it about doing what's right? | ||
| Like, how do you, how do you play? | ||
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I mean, you always got to do what's right, but there's, you know, you can play the little publicity stunts here and there that make sense, but you got to play by the rules, right? | |
| You got to, I would have said, don't do this. | ||
| It's a fake. | ||
| You can't just put out fake photos like that's when you're running for president of the United States and you're the second, you know, the right behind Trump, the runner up. | ||
| It's, it's risk versus reward. | ||
| You know, you're, you're, you're, you're betting on the loser horse. | ||
| It's like, we're gonna make this thing, and what we can gain from it is minimal, and what we can lose from it is everything. | ||
| Well, and, you know, you made the point that some of these images are fake, but we wouldn't be able to tell. | ||
| It would have been much more difficult to tell, at the very least, if we didn't have the picture with lettering behind it that was so over-the-top with him smooching Fauci. | ||
| And you gotta wonder, are there other instances of deepfakes being out there in political campaigns being used that we just haven't picked up on because they weren't as ridiculous? | ||
| You guys think DeSantis signed off on this? | ||
| Oh, I have no clue. | ||
| I think it went under the radar. | ||
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A lowly staffer. | |
| I think it's possible he signed off on it, but, like, he's sitting in his office typing on a computer and they pull up an iPad and they hold it up to him and say, here's the ad, and he's sitting there and he watches and he goes, it's great, run it, and then, anyway, guys, what were we talking about? | ||
| So... The buck stops with him, definitely. | ||
| But I don't think he knew they ran deepfake images. | ||
| I'm saying, like, if he approved of it, he looked at it, didn't realize what it was, and said, looks good. | ||
| The DeSantis campaign is 100% correct to criticize Trump on Fauci and Birx. | ||
| This ruined it for them. | ||
| Literally this morning, I'm like, DeSantis has given us everything we've asked for in Florida. | ||
| He's been leading so well. | ||
| He does lack charisma, but Trump really does have a weakness when it comes to Fauci, Dr. Birx, and the COVID response, and that's where they can go after him. | ||
| And then all of a sudden, I see this news, and I'm like, holy crap. | ||
| Did they really screw this one up? | ||
| And then instead of being like, we disavow, we apologize, we don't know how this got out, the supporters all run out full speed and say, we are allowed to do it. | ||
| And I'm like, okay, DeSantis' supporters are some of the nastiest people online. | ||
| Nasty. | ||
| Trump's got nasty people, don't get me wrong, but the fact that they will defend anything, and you've got people tweeting at me being like, why aren't you criticizing Trump? | ||
| And I'm like, I'm sorry, I didn't realize that because Trump was a dick, that means DeSantis is allowed to do things that are wrong. | ||
| And that's the best they could offer. | ||
| Well, what about Trump? | ||
| What about him? | ||
| Are you gonna say that DeSantis can do this because Trump's bad too? | ||
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| I'll vote for the Libertarian Party. | ||
| I don't need either of them. | ||
| That's where we're going. | ||
| Dave Smith. | ||
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| November 2020. | ||
| I had to get the hell out of New York. | ||
| Lockdowns. | ||
| You can't go to a restaurant. | ||
| You can't go to a gym. | ||
| I said, I'm getting- Went down to visit a client. | ||
| He was having a party in his townhouse in Miami Beach. | ||
| I said, I'm coming here, right? | ||
| And so DeSantis did a great job for two years. | ||
| I even went to a fundraiser that Trump did for him. | ||
| It was about in September of 2020. | ||
| And then I was trying to be charismatic with DeSantis, but it's very hard. | ||
| He doesn't know any of the personality Trump has. | ||
| And it stuck out to me. | ||
| I said, I just got down here. | ||
| I had to get out of New York. | ||
| And I couldn't get any personality out of him. | ||
| And I was with my dad. | ||
| He's 85 at the time. | ||
| And he says, is that your dad? | ||
| Trump says, is that your dad? | ||
| Get him over here. | ||
| And I says, I'm thinking back, I says, that's the difference, you know? | ||
| Trump's personality, he knows what's in a room and he can work a room. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| But DeSantis, I don't think this was his time. | ||
| He really shouldn't have went. | ||
| Someone super chatted us and said that Donald Trump is actually a DJ. | ||
| He's DJ Trump. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Literally. | ||
| Like, oh yeah, that's kind of funny. | ||
| He's a people person. | ||
| That's a big part of being president, too, is you're a people person. | ||
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Larger-than-life personality. | |
| You were at the Social Media Summit? | ||
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| At the White House? | ||
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Two and a—three years ago? | |
| Yeah, something like three years ago. | ||
| Trump was doing a stand-up routine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're sitting there, and I'm like, I have no idea what this is. | ||
| We're in—I thought it was gonna be like a roundtable with a small group of people. | ||
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Yes, I did. | |
| And then we sit down, there's chairs lining up in front of a podium, and Trump just does stand-up. | ||
| And we were all laughing our asses off. | ||
| And I was like, what the— Is this funny? | ||
| I don't know what's going on, but it's hilarious. | ||
| I thought we were going to get away with no mudslinging, man. | ||
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And this is typical Trump, because after Trump won, remember he said, everybody want to come in the garden with me afterwards? | |
| And he was doing a presser with Attorney General Barr. | ||
| And then some of the influencers got in it with CNN and a couple of reporters. | ||
| Oh, that was funny. | ||
| Yeah, there was like a fight broke out or something, right? | ||
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I think it was Bryce, the guy who was the Playboy White House correspondent. | |
| Only under Trump... Oh, the guy who was Gorka. | ||
| Gorka got in it with the Playboy, I can't remember his name, but he was the Playboy White House correspondent. | ||
| Only under Trump that he made all these irrelevant White House correspondents famous. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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| That they got book deals and everything. | ||
| That's why they want him back in office. | ||
| That's why they're trying to push these indictments and all that. | ||
| Seamus is waiting patiently to dive behind you. | ||
| And I think something that you hit spot on is about the lack of charisma from DeSantis. | ||
| So last week for TimCast News, I covered all of his stops in New Hampshire. | ||
| He kind of gave the same speech four different times, but he really isn't personable Lacks like that natural charisma and really comes off kind of smug and rigid or at least that was my impression I also feel as though he tries to play off as though he's not an elitist Although he still has gone to these prestigious colleges. | ||
| I believe at least Yale, but maybe also Harvard so So when Ron comes on this show and it's going to be hot, you better look at me in the eyes and be like, not intelligent, huh? | ||
| And then look at Tim and be like, so no charisma. | ||
| You better call us on this stuff because this is what the conversation is about. | ||
| If you're really going to be a better president, then we got to air it out. | ||
| Well, I just, look man, when I brought up the Jazz Jennings thing, the DeSantis, Pasha and Redfern started tweeting at me, calling me a grifter and insulting me for simply pointing out that Jazz Jennings lives in Florida and these horrible things are happening. | ||
| And I was like, why are you yelling at me? | ||
| What is with these people? | ||
| They're very defensive over him. | ||
| His online team... He's gotta fire them. | ||
| These are terrible people. | ||
| They're destroying his campaign. | ||
| Yeah, they'll come after you like dogs. | ||
| If they perceive an attack like that as an attack, although it wasn't... You know what the best thing they could have done would be? | ||
| Literally say nothing. | ||
| You know the second best thing they could've done if they had to do something? | ||
| Say, Tim, we're on it. | ||
| With a winky emoji. | ||
| And then I would've been like, oh look at that, DeSantis campaign knows, they're doing something. | ||
| And they could've done nothing! | ||
| They could've just posted that and it would've been, that's the end of it. | ||
| Instead, they decided to go to war and create a conflict that creates negative attention around DeSantis and led to the confirmation that Jazz Jennings received gender surgery in Florida under the rule of Ron DeSantis. | ||
| Ron DeSantis was governor, Jazz did receive surgery. | ||
| And so, they want to play this game like, Ron doesn't have a time machine. | ||
| Well, now you open the door, and now we know that it was under Ron. | ||
| So, I think, you were making that point, Ian, that everything Ron did was safe? | ||
| Just in general? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| I don't know if I was making that point hard, but I do believe that. | ||
| He's a very play-it-safe kind of guy, which concerns me that he'll get co-opted by the bureaucracy, or already has been. | ||
| Like, I don't see him being willing to go off script. | ||
| Get off the script, dude! | ||
| I don't want to hear what you wrote down. | ||
| I think he's got to fire these people. | ||
| He has to fire them because they are really, really bad at what they do. | ||
| I think he's trying really hard to beat Trump on policy, but is forgetting that most people actually do not care much at all about policy. | ||
| That's not what's getting somebody to vote for you or not. | ||
| When he's trying to hit on Trump on abortion, like, Seamus doesn't care. | ||
| Seamus still supports Trump. | ||
| Although DeSantis is more... No, it's not. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I actually, that's one of the things... I'm not in an entirely committed position. | ||
| I think it depends on what their stances end up being. | ||
| I prefer Trump as a candidate in a lot of ways, but I'm always voting the pro-life candidate. | ||
| So here's the thing. | ||
| You prefer Trump right now, although he is more pro-choice than DeSantis. | ||
| Well, if we're talking about who's more likely to win a federal election, I think especially if Trump's position were to change to a more pro-life position, it wouldn't even be a question for me. | ||
| But if we're talking about who's more charismatic, who's probably more likely to carry voters, yeah, I think Trump. | ||
| There was also some talk behind the scenes that there was a leak from DeSantis' campaign that suggested he might not hold to as strong a pro-life stance. | ||
| I'm not sure if we confirmed that. | ||
| That doesn't mean anything, but yeah, I'm always going to pick the most pro-life candidate. | ||
| DeSantis is trying to hit him from the right, but most people seem to not even care, as they should, or just how politics plays out. | ||
| Ron's biggest strength is to just say, I'm just like Trump, but I'm calm. | ||
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Yeah, I mean all their personalities, policies, ideologies are pretty much the same, 90%. | |
| How did Trump conquer and become the personality? | ||
| His personality is larger than life. | ||
| He's funny. | ||
| He's engaging. | ||
| He's a New York style personality. | ||
| He's flexible on the issues, though. | ||
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And he's pragmatic at times. | |
| And I think Tim has a great point. | ||
| Ron should be the comma Trump. | ||
| Yep, you know somewhat like a Ronald Reagan mode our policies are the same | ||
| He did a great job, but we need to come we need to have a combination at the moment | ||
| We need to bring in moderates We need to win the middle and that's about Ron's best play | ||
| not the bitter bitter back and forth And that's not the way to do you cannot gonna win back and | ||
| forth with Trump. There's no way Trump's probably one He's one of the least right-wing candidates though in the | ||
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Republic. I mean he slayed really He slayed brilliant candidates in the 60s. | |
| Pro-gay marriage is relatively loose on abortion at this point, compared to Pence, compared to DeSantis, among other things. | ||
| Yeah, I think there's a lot of positions where Trump could and should be better. | ||
| There's absolutely no disagreement there. | ||
| That's why DeSantis is dumb for trying to win on policy. | ||
| You're not going to beat Trump on policy by trying to hit him from the right. | ||
| That's been DeSantis' play here. | ||
| He's thinking of it too much like a politician. | ||
| That's not how Trump won. | ||
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Trump didn't win based on... I want to clarify too. | |
| I am not saying the president should be calm. | ||
| I'm saying the selling point DeSantis has is that he is like Trump but calm. | ||
| Because there are a lot of moderates and independents that think Trump is too over the top. | ||
| My personal view? | ||
| We need Trump to go in like a bull in a china shop and fire all these people. | ||
| Yeah, and so there have been a number of things, like on the abortion messaging, where I think Trump has been entirely wrong. | ||
| I'd like to see him shift there, absolutely. | ||
| I do, in that sense, very much prefer DeSantis' stance. | ||
| He's pro-life, and when it comes to the primary, I'm always going to vote for the most pro-life candidate. | ||
| But part of my critique of DeSantis has also been the fact that he lacks charisma. | ||
| And a lot of diehard supporters get upset with me for saying that, but you're not helping him or his campaign by not addressing that. | ||
| So respectfully, if DeSantis is more pro-life than Donald Trump, why don't you support DeSantis over Trump? | ||
| I think as a candidate, DeSantis is less charismatic. | ||
| I'm not saying that I would definitively support Trump over DeSantis in the primary without any qualification there. | ||
| I think if Trump moved to a more pro-life stance, I absolutely would. | ||
| And I also think that if DeSantis became more charismatic and was a more pragmatic candidate on the national stage, That would help him quite a bit. | ||
| I think Trump blamed the midterm losses from Republicans on the abortion issue. | ||
| And I discussed that on my podcast with Lila Rose. | ||
| I think that's a massive failure on his part. | ||
| When DeSantis came out saying six weeks, Trump was still like, oh... Trump said that he called it cruel, which I think was horrible messaging and I think is entirely wrong. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, but it still doesn't matter to you. | ||
| No, I never said that. | ||
| No, I never said that. | ||
| I never said it doesn't matter to me. | ||
| I said that DeSantis needs to work on his charisma. | ||
| I think where Trump, and I would also, and this is why I'm saying as of now, because I think it's possible Trump moves on that issue. | ||
| As you mentioned, Trump is very flexible and he's been in different positions and adopted different positions over time. | ||
| I would say that when it comes to DeSantis building up his charisma, making that statement isn't saying that I'm now a diehard Trump supporter who will never like DeSantis. | ||
| It's simply saying that I think he needs to fix that problem to be a more palatable candidate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's all. | ||
| DeSantis will not beat Trump from a policy. | ||
| Even though he may be better on policy, that's not how he's going to beat him. | ||
| Oh no, I agree, and this is the thing, so I was getting into so many arguments with people about this because I was saying DeSantis needs to work up his charisma, he needs to get better at this, and they were saying, oh, like charisma matters, people should vote on policy, agreed, people should vote on policy, they're probably not going to, right? | ||
| They never do. | ||
| You, and so that's my point where I, and I said this so many times, I think that, um, I think that a stronger DeSantis is better for America overall, regardless who ends up getting the nomination, regardless of who ends up winning. | ||
| I think it is better for America for both of these men to be as strong as they can be and to be as effective as they can be. | ||
| And one of the areas where DeSantis lacks effectiveness is his charisma. | ||
| you need a maddingly, you don't need one, but you will benefit severely from a charismatic | ||
| military commander. He's the commander of the military. If you, if the troops believe in you, | ||
| they'll fight and die for you. If they don't, they're going to quit. Look at our military | ||
| right now with Joe Biden frailing around. It's a, it's a travesty. Yeah. I like that description. | ||
| Oh, it's flailing and frailing. | ||
| Flailing and frail together. | ||
| Falling at the same time. | ||
| Frailing. | ||
| And this lack of charisma. | ||
| At least Trump is charismatic. | ||
| Whether you like him or not doesn't matter. | ||
| You can have high charisma and be unliked. | ||
| It doesn't mean people are going to like you. | ||
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I think this is a call for DeSantis to get in here and we all have to work on his personality a bit. | |
| Hell yes, dude. | ||
| Let's talk about mushrooms, man. | ||
| Let's get real. | ||
| We need to talk about things that people really care about. | ||
| We talked about this a bit when he announced that I can't believe they looked at that announcement video that he posted on Twitter and they were like, this is good. | ||
| I can't believe they did not have someone at the level they're at. | ||
| They're in second place right now in the Republican primary for the presidency of the United States, and they couldn't get someone to come and look at that video and be like, guys, you need more energy. | ||
| Whatever you gotta do to get more energy in there, have an eagle fly over. | ||
| I don't know what it is, but Ron walking up and being like, freedom is worth fighting for, was just... Watch Barack Obama announce. | ||
| He did it, he's in front of all these people, he's got a huge crowd, and he does that thing where he pauses what he's saying very slowly and elevates his voice. | ||
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THAT'S WHY I, BARACK OBAMA, AM ANNOUNCING! | |
| And the crowd starts screaming and there's all that energy, and you watch that video and you're like, wow. | ||
| People are getting fired up. | ||
| Then you go in the Twitter space and Ron's like, well I'm here to lead the American comeback! | ||
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you're like okay. You know who was, Ronald Reagan was brilliant with visuals, Bill | |
| Clinton was brilliant with visuals, Ron DeSantis lost the simple rule of | ||
| politics, visuals are very important. He announced on Twitter, did we have any | ||
| visuals? None. Zero. You can never revisit that moment. | ||
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Right, so you got one shot to announce right, that one day and he should have been in one | |
| of the counties that he did such tremendous job in Florida. | ||
| He's got a great story to tell and he should be with supporters, his family, his wife is up there and that would have been an amazing announcement. | ||
| He could have gotten like a giant drone. | ||
| You ever see those drones that people ride? | ||
| The big ones? | ||
| He could have landed Look, I'm half-kidding, but he could have done anything to generate spectacle. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| He's standing on like a quadcopter as it lands, and then he jumps off and walks to the podium in front of a huge crowd and they're like, what is going on? | ||
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Yeah, exactly. | |
| I hate to be so superficial, but if you could pull up him smiling, Ron DeSantis has a horrible smile. | ||
| If you seriously could. | ||
| He was sending out emails of him smiling. | ||
| It's just, that's one of the biggest things. | ||
| It kind of looks like he's in pain, man. | ||
| I don't think these are good smiles. | ||
| Maybe he is in pain. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We are superficial people. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| That's a really good smile on the right. | ||
| Yeah, I think he's fine. | ||
| That's the Ron I want to see on the right. | ||
| That's the one thing, you know what? | ||
| I don't really see much of an issue with this. | ||
| I bet when you meet him, he's probably a really cool guy. | ||
| I bet he's like a really likable guy. | ||
| You don't get to become governor if you're not. | ||
| Well, Katie Hobbs is governor. | ||
| Someone needs to take this picture right here. | ||
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John Fetterman's a senator. | |
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| Someone needs to take this and then animate him going Super Saiyan. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| It's easy to throw stones from the sidelines, Rob. | ||
| The deepfake thing for me is hard no. | ||
| Unless he comes out and fires somebody, someone substantial, and says, we disavow this. | ||
| Here's what's going to happen. | ||
| His PR people are going to say, don't address it at all. | ||
| Don't say anything, let it go away. | ||
| It's unacceptable. | ||
| So if he doesn't, I'm not going anywhere near... I will not support a campaign that intentionally is making fake images to lie. | ||
| I can't... Look man, I know it's politics. | ||
| People lie. | ||
| But this is a step beyond. | ||
| It's one thing to mischaracterize. | ||
| It's another thing like Trump posts these... People keep asking about Trump re-truthing that image where it's allegedly DeSantis with young girls, and he's trying to imply that DeSantis is like a pedo or a groom or whatever, and I'm like, yeah, that's very bad. | ||
| I do not like those things. | ||
| Trump gets no credit for me from that. | ||
| But Trump retruthing someone and being a dick is very different from your campaign running an ad where you made fake images or where you have placed, I don't know who made them, but you placed fake images to smear someone. | ||
| It is really concerning, because you could deepfake Ron with getting a back massage from his wife's sister and be like, it looks real. | ||
| And then that sows division within his family. | ||
| It's so dark, this path, man. | ||
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Because this opens the Pandora's box, right? | |
| Do we have to live through this week after week after week? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The technology is moving too fast. | ||
| We can't have this. | ||
| No one's going to back down. | ||
| So right now with the AI stuff, you've got people begging these companies to stop. | ||
| We are going to die. | ||
| You need to stop this. | ||
| They can't stop. | ||
| Because you get one company saying, guys, we'll do it right. | ||
| But if we don't do it, the other company will. | ||
| So no matter what you say, you've got 10 companies, 20, 30, 40, 50, all full steam ahead on launching this AI stuff and no one will back down. | ||
| Yes, Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI, who's like one of the companies leading the charge of AI, went on Lex Friedman's podcast and asked Lex to his face, should we open source this? | ||
| And Lex went, no, I don't think so. | ||
| And I was like, what in the hell are you guys talking about? | ||
| You're supposed to be the thought leaders, and you don't want it open because you're afraid that someone else is going to take it and make it better than you? | ||
| So you want to make it secret so that the AI takes over? | ||
| Like, what? | ||
| Come on! | ||
| It was supposed to be open source, that's why it's called OpenAI. | ||
| It's called OpenAI and it's closed! | ||
| What the hell are you doing, Sam? | ||
| Well, uh, Elon talked about that. | ||
| Didn't he contribute a large sum of money? | ||
| And then they took the money and then turned it into a private corporation? | ||
| Oh my god, dude, it's Cyberdyne! | ||
| This is like how the Terminator got built in Terminator 2, man! | ||
| You take some proprietary AI company, it spins out of control, and then the machine goes rogue, like... | ||
| So the way the A.I. | ||
| destroys all of us is not the way people think it's going to be. | ||
| It's not going to be Terminators being like, humans are the threat. | ||
| It's going to be something ridiculous. | ||
| Like, there's that story where they claimed, and apparently it's not true, they claimed that they programmed a drone. | ||
| They gave it an A.I. | ||
| to fly and blow up certain targets. | ||
| And then it earned points when it hit the target. | ||
| In the simulation, it could only attack the target if it got approval from the operator. | ||
| It then realized the operator saying no was detrimental to it getting points, so it blew up the operator. | ||
| Then they said, okay, blowing up the operator gives you minus points, so it stopped doing that. | ||
| So then it blew up the communication towers. | ||
| Apparently they say the story is not true, or something about it is fabricated. | ||
| But the general concept of it is exactly what happens with AI and why it will go bad. | ||
| We will make an AI and we'll ask you to do something simple. | ||
| We'll make finance AI and we'll be like, hey, make these trade stocks so that we can boost our 401k and the AI earns points when people's returns improve. | ||
| What'll end up happening is it will do something totally unexpected and weird to earn points, like shorting a bunch of vital stocks, destroying the economy, and then one day people wake up and they have no savings, but one guy's got $365 trillion in his account and he doesn't know how, and it's like, I maximized my points! | ||
| Then the system completely breaks because of it. | ||
| Yeah, or you reduce the population and then you have a relatively larger number of people that are wealthy, so like... Yup! | ||
| Be careful what you... That's the monkey-paw thing. | ||
| If we told an AI to do finance, and we said, your goal is to make as much money as possible for the people who have invested in these specific, you know, EFTs or, you know, these IRAs, whatever, these stocks, this portfolio. | ||
| It will say, if we have one million people and one million dollars in the market, each person gets one dollar. | ||
| If we eliminate half of those people, everyone now has two dollars. | ||
| One of the strategies towards maximizing returns might be to literally Destroy companies through finance that produce food and medicine so that people die resulting in more of the existing wealth. | ||
| The money may become worthless because there's no people to do work, but all that matters is that number to the AI. | ||
| And you hope that an AI is intelligent enough to know what collateral damage it could cause, but I don't think anything is that perfect. | ||
| Look at what happened with YouTube. | ||
| YouTube said, we want to compete with Netflix, so we're going to make an algorithm that promotes long-form videos that people watch for a longer amount of time. | ||
| They thought they would get Game of Thrones. | ||
| They say people watch Game of Thrones for an hour, so we want content that's at least an hour that people will at least watch most of. | ||
| What did they get? | ||
| They started getting, one, podcasts, which is okay, but they started getting a lot of really freaky content of Hitler dancing with the Incredible Holt and stuff like that. | ||
| Spider-Man and Elsa doing gross stuff. For 40 minutes. Injections. | ||
| A lot of injection porn. | ||
| I remember people, yeah, well I knew people. Not actual sexual porn, just | ||
| people getting injections. That's a prime for the whole COVID narrative too. That was crazy. | ||
| Sorry to interrupt. No, no, I was just saying that I know people with kids who were like, | ||
| oh my gosh, my daughter was watching YouTube and this thing popped up basically instructing | ||
| the child on how to do something very violent. And they're like, what is going on? | ||
| And then I believe that's when YouTube ended up enabling the kids mode. | ||
| So even that didn't change it. | ||
| There were a bunch of videos where the thumbnails were children. | ||
| It was cartoons of kids drinking out of urinals and toilets and eating feces and things like that. | ||
| It's important to remember we're not just intelligence. | ||
| It's part of how we make our decisions, but emotions is a huge part, and machines don't have emotions at this stage of development. | ||
| upload them to YouTube to get traffic and make money, and then it would keep trying to maximize views and revenue, | ||
| and that's what made more money for it. | ||
| It's important to remember we're not just intelligence. | ||
| Like, it's part of how we make our decisions, but emotions is a huge part, | ||
| and machines don't have emotions at this stage of development. | ||
| I don't know if they ever really will. | ||
| They're programmed by really emotional people. | ||
| That's the thing, right? | ||
| For now? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Then they may start getting programmed by other AI with no emotions at all. | ||
| But then those will, like, because when you look at what ChatGPT will and won't say, a lot of it's not logical, right? | ||
| It's, like, based on somebody's emotional sensibilities. | ||
| Then if, like, ChatGPT programs something, then it's programming that thing based on the emotional sensibilities that were put into it. | ||
| Like, you've got to know when your orders are Uh, wrong. | ||
| When the orders are bad and you've got to say no to the orders. | ||
| You've got to know that, but that's an emotional ability. | ||
| I don't think that, like, you know, obviously the logic dictates ripping human bodies open to study the heart will make us better at becoming heart doctors, but that doesn't mean you want to rip human bodies open all the time to study hearts. | ||
| The AI has no conscience or moral framework, so it will just say, to better understand heart, open human. | ||
| Yeah, unless that's not programmed into it. | ||
| You just, you know, learn about hearts. | ||
| Here's how you tear a person open. | ||
| Do you guys at all think any of this AI stuff is overhyped garbage that the media likes to scaremonger around? | ||
| Not a little bit at all? | ||
| No. | ||
| I've been very reluctant to make predictions about it because of that. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, I think almost any prediction anyone makes about AI is going to age really poorly. | ||
| Yeah, the media, I would say generally, hasn't been talking much about it at all, which is why I don't feel like that. | ||
| I'm actually scared because we talk about it, and every time we talk about it, we have these contingencies of more possible things going wrong. | ||
| I think the media talks about it a lot, and then you have these stories of the godfather of AI saying that doom is near because of this. | ||
| I feel like we're calling it AI, but it's not exactly that. | ||
| It's like a language model that is predicting the next word, so there's nothing inherently original or thoughtful in what it's producing. | ||
| And the pictures work by just mushing stuff together, so there's nothing, again, truly original. | ||
| You're referring specifically to language models. | ||
| When I talk about earning points to develop models, they have the dog robot. | ||
| that you've probably seen. | ||
| They programmed it to learn how to walk on its own, and then they left it in a room and it just figured out how to eventually walk. | ||
| I think you're right that a lot of what we're calling artificial intelligence right now is large language models, LLM, large language models, and that Sam Altman was predicting that he's the CEO of OpenAI, that by September of this year, 2023, we will have our first general intelligence, which is where it can create more of it. | ||
| Yeah, and I'm fully willing to be wrong, and the ways this will impact our economy and jobs is going to be crazy and interesting and, I don't know, maybe not fun to see, but... Well, look, I can already tell you, right, I can already tell you as somebody who, like, owns a business that creates and markets artistic products, like we do the cartoons for the YouTube channel, there's also clients we service, there are ways that I can see this stuff really changing our industry. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| You could replace all the animators. | ||
| Well, I wouldn't want to, but hypothetically, if it got to that point, I think that's a possibility for a lot of studios. | ||
| Or, you could end up... Didn't we already use Mid Journey to make Freedom Tunes? | ||
| No, we tried. | ||
| It looked very weird. | ||
| So here's the thing. | ||
| There are certain things, and I attempted to do this. | ||
| I was using Mid Journey. | ||
| What is Majorna for people who don't? | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| It's probably the best available AI for generating images. | ||
| They look very realistic, they are extremely compelling, and highly intricate. | ||
| And you go to their Discord, you sign up on their website, then you go to Discord, you type forward slash imagine, and then it gives you a prompt and you can type in whatever you want. | ||
| Well, and so, I was curious, I wanted to see like, you know, do a background in this animated art style, or that animated art style, and you end up with something that, you know, still looks a little wonky, still looks a little bit off, it's not perfect. | ||
| One thing I was thinking of in terms of practical application is, You know, maybe you could use something like this to just color your images in, right? | ||
| So instead of drawing on the computer then coloring, maybe you can actually go back to pencil and paper and do frame by frame and just put each image into your computer and tell the AI, hey, like, color this in, flesh it out. | ||
| There are ways you can still be very involved in the artistic process and Utilize AI potentially in the coming years, and I think that's sort of the ideal situation where you still have real artists making these things, but they're able to make something so much more visually interesting and intricate because the computer technology is assisting them. | ||
| Using it as a tool. | ||
| Yeah, well and so I've mentioned this before. | ||
| What we do at Freedom Tunes would be literally impossible without computer animation, right? | ||
| Doing a hand-drawn, like, 2-5 minute long video once a week, sometimes 3-4 times a week, it literally wouldn't be possible without computer animation. | ||
| And that also means that what I'm doing requires fewer animators than it would have required 15 years ago, 20 years ago, 30 years ago, before this stuff was common. | ||
| So, yeah, like, it might limit the number of jobs, but the people who have those jobs will probably be able to do a lot more. | ||
| It's an interesting perspective on it, with how computers also help you make the cartoons, and AI will help you do them in a different way, potentially. | ||
| And if you can please the AI, the AI will reward you, like your viewers become AI itself, and the more of the AI you can impress, the more you will be rewarded in the long run. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| I mean, well, I was just gonna kinda add that... Her AI wife? | ||
| Well, AI wife, AI family. | ||
| Well, I mean, I was just gonna say that, you know, people might look at the situation and they say, well, you know, this guy's making several cartoons a week for his business and he's got a, you know, a talented team of employees who he's working with on this. | ||
| But, you know, if he was doing this 30 years ago, there could have been dozens or hundreds of people, many more people with jobs. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| If it was 30 years ago, it just wouldn't exist, right? | ||
| It just wouldn't exist. | ||
| It wouldn't be possible. | ||
| So, I think instead of seeing it as something that's going to limit job potential, it's important to also conceive of the fact that it's going to create industries. | ||
| Like, things will be possible that were not. | ||
| We're gonna go to Super Chat, so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share this show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com, click join us, because we're gonna have a members-only uncensored show coming up for you in about a half an hour, and it's gonna be fun and spicy, don't bring the kids. | ||
| Alright, I'm Not Your Buddy Guy says, as a Canadian, I find it rather offensive that you think our crazy lefties don't know how to use cell phones, and yet think space lasers are just as likely. | ||
| By the way, where did you get the laser idea from? | ||
| Uh, I never said it was likely that lasers started fires. | ||
| I said it was actually practically impossible, but at least somewhat in the realm of possibilities. | ||
| And the idea that 400, well I said 140, 140 lefties all went to key locations hundreds of miles apart and then timed ignition of fires That's just ridiculous, I'm sorry. | ||
| It's not what happened. | ||
| Could have been a controlled burn. | ||
| And now they're saying there's 450 fires in Canada? | ||
| Yeah, could be. | ||
| I'm sorry, I just don't- It's cool, the satellite images, you see how they all start, or a bunch of them start around the same moment? | ||
| That's not true! | ||
| Because you're watching a time-lapse. | ||
| See, this is the other thing people did. | ||
| They took a time-lapse video of several hours, and then because the fires start within a few hours of each other, not at the same time, it looks like they all start at the same time. | ||
| That was me that brought up space lasers. | ||
| And it was that I thought it would be more likely that someone lit them with space lasers than that God itself lit the fires. | ||
| Here's the other thing about that satellite imagery showing all the smoke. | ||
| It's actually not the fire starting. | ||
| The smoke is rising straight up and you don't see it until the wind current pushes the smoke down. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So the wind could have inflamed it, and then you see it all at the same moment, because that's when the winds came through. | ||
| If the currents are not moving very fast, you won't see smoke spreading very far. | ||
| And then, when the current comes in, all the smoke moves at once, and people are like, whoa, all the fires started at once. | ||
| Ian, why is it more likely that it was started by a space laser than God? | ||
| Fires are natural, like forest fires. | ||
| They happen all the time. | ||
| And there was a major lightning storm. | ||
| They happen all the time. | ||
| Why we always gotta blame somebody. | ||
| That's what we were talking about last night. | ||
| The flood? | ||
| God did it. | ||
| Why we gotta blame that guy? | ||
| Usually it's blamed on climate change. | ||
| I was at a climate change protest today outside of the White House. | ||
| They were blaming floods and this fire in particular on climate change. | ||
| Yeah, it's pretty wild and they're so smug in their certainty that this was caused by climate change. | ||
| Let's just say, let's say man-made catastrophic climate change is happening and the world is going to end in 12 years and then 12 years from now, you know, you can say that all over again. | ||
| Let's just say that that's the case and all that's true. | ||
| Maybe one forest fire could actually not be climate change, right? | ||
| Like, but it's everything! | ||
| Change itself doesn't do things. | ||
| It's what is the thing that happened, that is a change, and then talk about the thing itself, then that could have caused it. | ||
| But change, climate change, is not like a cause. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| What's changing? | ||
| Let's read some more. | ||
| We got Raymond G. Stanley Jr. | ||
| He says, Tim, I also think a part that plays into the more conservative poll numbers are people like myself. | ||
| 2019, I wasn't a politico, whereas today, I'm all boudy-boudy that forward-the-line stance. | ||
| Here, here. | ||
| So Gallup shows that all age groups have shifted more conservative. | ||
| The big shift, uh, I think the big shift is 30 to 44, but there is a prominent shift, 18 to 29, towards conservative to a certain degree, and now more people in the US identify as conservative than anything else. | ||
| Well, it's interesting, though, because what it means to be conservative has changed so much, right? | ||
| So, 10, 15 years ago, knowing the differences between boys and girls just made you a mentally competent adult. | ||
| And if you couldn't answer the question, what is a woman, people would assume that you weren't fit to function in society. | ||
| Nowadays, if you do know the answer to that question, you're not only conservative, you're a far-right extremist. | ||
| I just hate communists. | ||
| Yeah, you know, communism is very bad. | ||
| I hate the ideology. | ||
| Sometimes communists can be pretty cool. | ||
| Actually, that's a fair point. | ||
| I tell the story a lot. | ||
| There was a guy I met in Berkeley who had the sickle and hammer and he had books. | ||
| He was giving books out and stuff and talking to people wearing a mask and I walked up to him and I was just like, what do you think about Antifa? | ||
| And he was like, what do you mean? | ||
| And I was like, those guys over there, they're beating people. | ||
| And he's like, that's wrong, they shouldn't do that. | ||
| And I was like, I agree. | ||
| And I shook his hand. | ||
| And he was like, he's like, my ideas are about how we all live together peacefully and no one should be attacking anybody else. | ||
| And I'm like, I preferred they agreed with you! | ||
| A rare noble communist. | ||
| Yeah, I think it's not a political government. | ||
| It's not a functional government structure. | ||
| It's cool in a family. | ||
| It's a Ponzi scheme. | ||
| Well, but even that though, like, because people say that, but really, what communists are doing is they're taking behavior that's like appropriate at the family level. | ||
| And then they're saying, let's destroy the family and have the government do this instead. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I gotta read this one. | ||
| It seemingly starts off silly, but then gets really mean, but I'm gonna read it anyway. | ||
| Mark Giadetti says, I thought Elad changed his name to John Bolton Jr. | ||
| Ian is neither a wizard or a shaman. | ||
| He is just an egotistical sophist. | ||
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I mean, you see what you are, you know? | |
| But is it the mustache that makes people think you're like John Bolton? | ||
| Because it is a beautiful mustache. | ||
| I also say I like how Trump bombed Soleimani and stuff like that, so... John Blankenship says... Did you say those things? | ||
| And the drone strikes earlier, I don't know, should Obama have been indicted for it? | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| John Blankenship says, what if one of the bribes Biden received was the Corvette? | ||
| T-Rex Pet Shop says, has anybody else noticed that many other huge companies like Family Dollar didn't even put out their pride stuff this year? | ||
| Maybe they're scared of the backlash. | ||
| Keep up the pressure, especially on woke pet stores like PetSmart, Chewy, and Petco. | ||
| Just shop at T-Rex Pet Shop instead. | ||
| Much better options. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| We gotta tell the public square guys to just make a list of companies that have publicly said communism is not good. | ||
| It is not okay to be a communist. | ||
| Can we print those out? | ||
| It is not okay to be communist. | ||
| But a community is everything. | ||
| Communism is wrong. | ||
| If you do that, the media will report far-right extremists everywhere. | ||
| No, you know, and I'm not a shaman or a wizard either. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Good point. | ||
| I'm just a guy. | ||
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You know, I left Miami. | |
| I'm heading up to New York. | ||
| I don't know how inundated I'm going to be with Pride once I stroll into New York City. | ||
| When you breathe in the air, you will become gay. | ||
| Rockefeller. | ||
| All the flags are Pride flags now. | ||
| It's supposed to be the flags of the world or whatever. | ||
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You know, when I first moved to the village, it was Pride Day at the end of June. | |
| Now they have to have 30 days. | ||
| The whole month. | ||
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And it seems like it's every month. | |
| I just want to know what people are proud for. | ||
| That's what I care about. | ||
| Here's a good one. | ||
| Jason Hutchinson says, if we're locking up former presidents, I've got a list. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| Leon Yoder says Vivek Ramaswamy just tweeted that he would pardon Trump if elected. | ||
| This double standard of justice is going to destroy our society. | ||
| I applaud Vivek for doing this and hope all other Republican candidates follow his lead. | ||
| I think if there is a debate, it's going to be Trump and Vivek. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Nobody else on stage will matter. | ||
| Vivek knows what people want to hear and he will tell them it. | ||
| You don't trust him? | ||
| That's all I have to say. | ||
| I mean, I don't trust anybody, but you don't believe him? | ||
| I think he has tapped in closely, and when he thinks he could say something to help advance his space in, like, the MAGA subcategory that I think he's going after, then he goes for it. | ||
| But I disagree in the sense that I do think he knows what people want to hear, but I don't think that's his motivation. | ||
| He sat down with me and he said there should be some kind of civic requirement for voting, and I'm like, that's a bold thing to say, because that's like, that causes damage politically among younger voters. | ||
| He was like, we gotta do it. | ||
| Something cynical about me just sees him as an opportunist. | ||
| I don't know why. | ||
| He is mentally agile. | ||
| He'll change his thoughts and views. | ||
| He was a CEO, he did a lot of business stuff, and then he wrote a book about being anti-woke and everything. | ||
| And the reason why, they came to him and said, you need to put up a picture on your Instagram or whatever with the black square because of George Floyd, and he was like, oh, okay, sure, I guess. | ||
| Then they came to him and they said, no, we want you to write a statement where the company supports this. | ||
| And he was like, oh, all right, I guess. | ||
| And then he wrote something where he said, I hope this country can heal and come together and we stop fighting. | ||
| And they came to him and said, that wasn't good enough. | ||
| You need to do better or else. | ||
| And he was like, I don't know what you want me to do. | ||
| Then he started getting attacked by woke people. | ||
| Then his friend started calling him out, saying he was a fascist or something. | ||
| Then people actually resigned. | ||
| And I think he got so angry that a fire lit like within him. | ||
| And he was like, I will destroy you. | ||
| And I think he is deeply, deeply angry at these people for being so crazy. | ||
| But I think he's a calm, strategic, collected guy. | ||
| So he's not just rampaging around screaming, he's like, straightening his tie, putting his suit on, and being like, you messed with the wrong guy. | ||
| I think it's commendable that he was willing to fight back, but the fact that he's running for president, he's not doing it as a serious way to win, he's doing it as a way to up his public profile, in my opinion. | ||
| I don't think he thinks he's a serious candidate. | ||
| And if he did want to win something, he'd run for lower office first. | ||
| In my opinion, because a lot of people run just for the press, and I think he's kind of like a right-wing version of Yang in this primary season. | ||
| I think he's running to put ESG on the debate stage. | ||
| I think... I told him this, I was like, I don't think you're gonna win. | ||
| I would support you. | ||
| I think he hits the nail on the head with so many of these issues. | ||
| He's sitting here and he's just like... | ||
| Like, I'm gonna get in trouble for saying this, but I think about it. | ||
| We gotta have some kind of standard, civic standard for voting. | ||
| People just can't be told anybody can vote. | ||
| And then he came out and said, 18 to 26 has to pass a civics test. | ||
| Which, like, triggered all these Gen Z people, and I'm like, that's not... You don't say those things. | ||
| I respect that he said that. | ||
| I think... | ||
| I don't think he expects to win. | ||
| You know, maybe it's unfair to say, maybe he really is trying, but I think he's a smart guy who knows the best he can do is get on stage and say to the world, ESG is destroying us. | ||
| We must stop it. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And we'll see, maybe he gets a cabinet position. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
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Or not. | |
| I mean, if the best case scenario is he goes on the debate stage and says, no more ESG, I'll take it. | ||
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Getting back to tonight, what the Republicans should do, because when Bill Clinton was impeached in 92, he had a rally in the Rose Garden with all Democrats and his supporters. | |
| Wouldn't it be nice if the Republicans rallied behind Trump tonight? | ||
| They never do, on the Republican-Conservative side. | ||
| They never rally on each other. | ||
| Well, Vivek said he'll party Trump, so at least he did. | ||
| I respect it. | ||
| Iggy the Incubus says, speaking of corrupt presidents, I recommend Razorfist's video, Abraham Lincoln, American Dictator. | ||
| Oh, Abraham Lincoln's got a lot of bad stuff under his belt. | ||
| The suspension of habeas corpus and the corridor stretching from the South up to Pennsylvania. | ||
| Through Maryland. | ||
| What did they do? | ||
| They went and arrested a bunch of the Maryland state legislature because they were sympathetic to the South. | ||
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Geez. | |
| Yeah, some nasty stuff. | ||
| You should indict him too. | ||
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Dig up his corpse like they did with that Pope. | |
| Here's the moral challenge for classical liberals. | ||
| The classical liberal position, the deontological position, is that Abraham Lincoln did wrong. | ||
| The utilitarian and the moralist position is slavery needed to be stopped and preserving this country was a good thing. | ||
| The outcome was undeniably good in a lot of ways. | ||
| I don't think the outcome after the Civil War was universally good. | ||
| I mean, Sherman's march to the sea was horrifying and monstrous, and reconstruction was disastrous too, but slavery was just so much worse. | ||
| So it's a tough question. | ||
| Do you think Abraham Lincoln was a tyrant? | ||
| I think there's a lot of bad things he did. | ||
| I think unquestionably bad things. | ||
| But the outcome, man, I am not in my current present life a utilitarian. | ||
| The ends don't justify the means. | ||
| But then you look back at the bad things Abraham Lincoln did and the end result being the abolition of slavery and the 14th amendment and things that have genuinely protected people and expanded civil rights. | ||
| It's like, he was certainly tyrannical. | ||
| Tyrants aren't always bad. | ||
| You have good tyrants as well. | ||
| A tyrant just means that it's an absolute ruler that's unrestrained by law or constitution. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
| I thought that tyranny is basically just what you call it when a kingdom goes bad. | ||
| Like, tyrant means a bad king in the same way that oligarchy means a bad aristocracy and democracy means a non-populist world. | ||
| I thought just how the terms are classically defined. | ||
| The guy that put Athens on the map was a tyrant. | ||
| He walked into the city and was like, I have Athena with me, bow to me, and they all did. | ||
| And then he turned Athens into the greatest trade hub on earth and he was known as this really great ruler, very benevolent. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| So I remember, and again, this is what I learned in school and I went to public schools, I'll tell you with a grain of salt, but what we learned was that these terms were basically like tyranny and oligarchy and actually even democracy were originally pejoratives to refer to different systems when they went wrong. | ||
| Sounds like liberal indoctrination. | ||
| Yeah, tyranny is what you call it when a king becomes bad. | ||
| And then, like, oligarchy is what you call it when an aristocracy goes wrong. | ||
| I guess the case study is Abe Lincoln. | ||
| Like, he was a tyrant, but he did good. | ||
| You could argue he did good anyway. | ||
| You could argue that he did some good, but then you could also argue he could have done that good without the tyranny. | ||
| Arguably, any wartime president is a tyrant. | ||
| In any political system. | ||
| So, if that's where we're kind of going with it, then it's... That's a really good point I bring up. | ||
| We like to talk about all these great civil liberties, we talk about classical liberalism, and I'm like, all those things disappear the moment a bomb drops. | ||
| Because ain't nobody is going to be like, you're allowed to say all of these things. | ||
| They're going to be like, my children are in danger. | ||
| Get out of my way. | ||
| That's just it. | ||
| Survival becomes everything. | ||
| All right, what do we got? | ||
| Tyler Brayton says, even in prison, Trump can still run for president. | ||
| If he wins, he can pardon himself. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Wouldn't that be hilarious if that's what actually happens? | ||
| He's in federal prison, wins, and then he's like, give me the papers, signs it, and they open the door. | ||
| That'd be so weird. | ||
| Where we at? | ||
| Thomas TJG says politicians, bureaucracy, military and agencies are corrupt because we never held them accountable. | ||
| If you break the law at any level, you should be held to two times the punishment because they know better. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| If you work in government and break the law, there should be special penalties. | ||
| I think that's effectively how it works for people in the military because you have military and civilian criminal procedures. | ||
| I'm pretty sure I could be wrong. | ||
| Oh yeah, like a military tribunal? | ||
| Yeah, like, if you're in the army, and then you go off base and, like, rob a liquor store, you get military court and you get civilian court. | ||
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Oof. | |
| So it's, like, double. | ||
| So don't do that. | ||
| Right, don't commit crimes. | ||
| Unless the crimes are really, really horrible, like what the Nazis made. | ||
| Uh, illegal. | ||
| Then you're supposed to commit a crime against the Nazi regime. | ||
| You're saying stop evil people. | ||
| Yeah, law is not equated to freedom. | ||
| I was like, Ian, wait, what? | ||
| Thanks for letting me explain myself. | ||
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I will triple down on that. | |
| There are other shows where people would have jumped on you before you could finish? | ||
| There have been way too many instances in history where people made something illegal that was good or made something illegal that was evil, you know? | ||
| Helping Anne Frank was illegal. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You should break the law to help Anne Frank. | ||
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Yes. | |
| In that instance, yes. | ||
| That is my opinion. | ||
| That was what the point you were trying to make was. | ||
| Yeah, the law is not morality. | ||
| Where we at? | ||
| Ryan Grisaf says, someone please clean the microphone filters after this stream. | ||
| It's bugging me. | ||
| Amen, brother. | ||
| I got dust for days. | ||
| I got like two years worth of dust on this one. | ||
| Where's that lint roller? | ||
| It's in there. | ||
| I think these need to be opened up and cleaned once every couple years or something. | ||
| We just buy new heads. | ||
| We'll just take this, uh... Thanks. | ||
| This thing right here and... Some ASMR. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
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There you go. | |
| Thanks, man. | ||
| I'll do it once we're muted after the show's over. | ||
| And now I gotta throw this thing away. | ||
| ASMR rubbing the... Alright, let's get back to reading stuff. | ||
| Holy Crappy Died says, Here in Missouri, we just banned child sex changes and ended state-funded adult sex changes. | ||
| We also made it so school children must play on sports teams that match the sex on their birth certificate. | ||
| Otherwise, schools can potentially lose their funding. | ||
| Very interesting. | ||
| The birth certificate stuff, there's still a lot of challenges that we have to overcome. | ||
| As it relates to all that, we haven't solved it, but I do believe there's a lot of good strides being made. | ||
| Good, uh, good changes are coming. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Dreg TK says, please help. | ||
| Great Texas teacher was in a car wreck. | ||
| While in the hospital, their apartment was robbed. | ||
| Wanted to get them some help. | ||
| Love you, cast crew. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| But who is the teacher? | ||
| We have no information, sir. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| How do we help? | ||
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Alright, well. | |
| Where are we at? | ||
| Where are we at? | ||
| Let's grab some more Super Chats. | ||
| Mr. Big, Mr. BG, sorry, says, These people will put Trump in prison. | ||
| He is acting like this is still a CNN fake news game, and he'll just be impeached, but nothing will happen. | ||
| They are communists. | ||
| This indictment removes him from the ballot in multiple states. | ||
| Does it really? | ||
| Someone look that up. | ||
| Does being indicted remove you from the ballot in multiple states? | ||
| This is the game they are playing. | ||
| People, people will have to write them in. | ||
| But a lot of people will just check DeSantis. | ||
| You know? | ||
| And maybe the goal is to get him off the ballots in the primaries that DeSantis wins. | ||
| That's what matters more than the general. | ||
| A blue state's gonna vote blue. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| No says No DeSantis. | ||
| First he says he won't run against Trump, then the man sits by and says he won't intervene if Trump is indicted, then the man signs HB 269, then launches his campaign with minus 5 to Charisma, then he does this AI BS. | ||
| A lot of bad stuff. | ||
| A lot of bad stuff. | ||
| Disappointing. | ||
| Very disappointing. | ||
| Bublius says, I think the indictment is evidence they want Trump to be the nominee. | ||
| Do they think they can beat him in 2024? | ||
| They've said it on The View. | ||
| On The View, they were like, we want Trump to be the nominee. | ||
| We don't want DeSantis to win. | ||
| They think Trump will lose. | ||
| They said that in 2016, though. | ||
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Right. | |
| And they're wrong now because what helped them in 2020 was COVID. | ||
| Lockdowns. | ||
| And that was Trump's fault. | ||
| A lot of it was. | ||
| Not all of it, but a lot of it was. | ||
| And people are like, what was he supposed to do about Fauci? | ||
| He couldn't fire Fauci. | ||
| Bureaucracy is like, he could have sidelined him easily. | ||
| He could have, he could have assigned him to go work somewhere nonsensical. | ||
| Didn't need to be at every press conference on camera because I just told him to go chill in the closet somewhere. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He could have said, I need you to fill out these forms down in the basement. | ||
| Oh, we're doing a press conference. | ||
| Come later. | ||
| Fauci, I don't want you on any camera, any public facing position. | ||
| Stick in your lab and stay there. | ||
| But... | ||
| Him and Deborah Birx were just at every presser. | ||
| Instead, he hugged him and kissed him on the nose. | ||
| Smokey Bone says, forget Trump and DeSantis, Tim Scott is the best we've got. | ||
| Tim Scott actually is pretty awesome, but he doesn't reach that level, I'm not sure. | ||
| Although, a Trump-Scott ticket? | ||
| What if Scott's the VP? | ||
| I think that'd be pretty cool, actually. | ||
| I just saw Tim Scott on The View. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| Yeah, I thought so, too. | ||
| It was absolutely amazing. | ||
| That dude is fantastic. | ||
| So, what do you think about Tim Scott? | ||
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I think he's a calming presence for the president. | |
| Right. | ||
| He needs it. | ||
| Was Tim Scott the guy who wrote the op-ed in the New York Times about needing to send in the guards? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, that wasn't him. | ||
| That was Cotton. | ||
| Cotton, never mind. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Tim Scott is where? | ||
| South Carolina? | ||
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South Carolina. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| He's great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, he's good. | ||
| He's good. | ||
| He's a good dude. | ||
| And he went on The View and he talked about, he nailed it. | ||
| He said, you guys are telling these young black kids that they can't succeed. | ||
| That, unless they're the exception to the rule. | ||
| He's like, no, you can't say, you can't tell these kids, you gotta tell them to work hard and they can be successful. | ||
| He's completely right. | ||
| And then they kept saying, you're the exception, you're the exception. | ||
| He's like, what do you mean? | ||
| Like, I worked hard! | ||
| You're telling him he doesn't deserve to be there. | ||
| Exactly, because what you're saying to a person in that situation is, you just got lucky. | ||
| Not like you worked really hard, not you earned this, you just got lucky. | ||
| Yeah, that's not cool, man. | ||
| Was he appointed to the Senate by Nikki Haley because he was black? | ||
| Or was he appointed because he was awesome? | ||
| I think he's right. | ||
| I guess Nikki could answer that question. | ||
| I think he's a good dude. | ||
| He seemed pretty cool. | ||
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I think it would be a great ticket. | |
| Yeah, Trump, Trump Scott. | ||
| He'd be a good dude. | ||
| Some people have mentioned that's why he's fairly neutral when he's announcing. | ||
| He's getting name recognition and then might, you know, go that route. | ||
| But that'd be good. | ||
| Two first names. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| Oh, three first names. | ||
| Timothy, Eugene, Scott. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| I'm big on, I'm bullish on people with multiple first names. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Just to answer you, Tim, it doesn't disqualify him. | ||
| According to Time, if he's indicted, it doesn't disqualify him from running for the election. | ||
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Just so you know. | |
| But does it remove his name from the state's entry to disqualify him? | ||
| I couldn't see that. | ||
| Couldn't find it. | ||
| Yeah, what they said was it removes his name from the ballots. | ||
| Right, couldn't find that. | ||
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And if the Republicans, let's say, they got 5, 8% more African American vote, the Democratic Party's toast. | |
| Yeah, it's true. | ||
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Toast. | |
| And we saw this a couple years ago, I think it was 2019, they said that black men are shifting towards the Republican Party. | ||
| They are, yeah. | ||
| And you see those viral videos where there's like young black men talking about how Trump's the guy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And he's got street cred. | ||
| They like him, he's a tough guy. | ||
| Beautiful Bacon says Trump literally is a DJ. | ||
| His name is DJ Trump. | ||
| He was merely living up to his namesake. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Dude, you gotta make that, Seamus. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| I think we do have to do DJ Trump. | ||
| DJ Trump in the house! | ||
| And Trump Jr. | ||
| is DJ Trump, too. | ||
| That literally has to be a slogan, DJ Trump in the house, but it's the White House. | ||
| Picture that. | ||
| That sounds like a sitcom. | ||
| That would be a really good show. | ||
| It's about a guy who's a DJ and then he has to move into the White House because he got beat up in his neighborhood back in Washington State. | ||
| Is this just the Fresh Prince? | ||
| But Trump. | ||
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And Trump was done with South Florida, now he has to go back on Tuesday to Miami. | |
| Sergeant Buck says it wouldn't shock me if whoever edited that vid had no idea how to recognize an AI-generated image and just typed Trump and Fauci into Google Images. | ||
| That's another possibility, too. | ||
| That's why I'm like, when the people immediately come out and they're like, we're allowed to do it because Trump posted a rhinoceros, they could have been like, it was an error. | ||
| You know, we googled the image and just put him in. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I'm gonna look up. | ||
| That's incompetent then. | ||
| That's incompetent then. | ||
| Better than malicious? | ||
| Yeah, I guess so, but still very bad. | ||
| I bet they're gonna try to ignore it. | ||
| I'm gonna look up. | ||
| That's funny. | ||
| I don't think you could just... Deepfake DeSantis! | ||
| That's what I'm calling him from now on. | ||
| Deepfake DeSantis. | ||
| Trump should steal that from you. | ||
| Old Deepfake DeSantis over here. | ||
| Deepfake DeSantis. | ||
| I'm looking at pictures of Trump and Fauci. | ||
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There's some really good ones. | |
| The funny thing was Trump's birthday's on Wednesday. | ||
| He had a big fundraising event on Tuesday the 13th at Bedminster, and now he has to go to Miami for this indictment. | ||
| Oh, next Wednesday's his birthday? | ||
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Next Wednesday's his birthday. | |
| Tuesday was a big event in Bedminster for the president for his birthday, but Wednesday now he's being summoned to turn himself in. | ||
| I wonder if they're planning on announcing it on his birthday. | ||
| This all seems so personal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Scott Jeffress says, what's your opinion on the pic of DeSantis drinking with young girls? | ||
| Was that fake? | ||
| Was it shared by the Trump camp? | ||
| I'm not simping for Ron, I'm all in for Trump 24, just asking your opinion. | ||
| I think when that came out, we criticized Trump for doing it. | ||
| We like all groaned and rolled our eyes and said it was gross or something. | ||
| And then we were just like, you shouldn't do that stuff. | ||
| But Trump is kind of a dick. | ||
| Like, we know this. | ||
| He's like, he's crass in that way. | ||
| And someone posting a photo That is either like, not real, or a meme, or insulting, and then Trump reposting it being like, haha, you're dumb, is very, very different from a campaign ad that uses fake images. | ||
| They're bad, don't get me wrong. | ||
| I'm not going to defend Trump for doing that. | ||
| We groaned and we rolled our eyes, but like, this is a whole new level. | ||
| Using deep fake images to smear someone in a political attack ad. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| So it was DeSantis as a teacher allegedly partying with high school girls. | ||
| Just to be clear of what the photo was. | ||
| It was what? | ||
| It was Ron DeSantis as a teacher allegedly partying with high school girls. | ||
| But is it real? | ||
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Was it? | |
| It was real. | ||
| According to Daily Mail. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Did they say he would never do such a thing? | ||
| Real pic. | ||
| We might need to read through it. | ||
| Trump posts photo of Ron DeSantis as a teacher allegedly partying with high school girls. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So the women could be college girls, we don't know that. | ||
| Which could be good, yeah. | ||
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Was he single then? | |
| Um, yeah, but I guess what would be creepy is a teacher with the high school, but we need a... I need to dig deeper, I don't want to say the wrong thing about... Gnarly Marley says, I mentioned wanting coverage of the AI photo story in a Daily Wire comment earlier and the backlash was extreme. | ||
| Some don't care, some don't believe it or made excuses, some just bashed you as a Democrat, I was rather shocked. | ||
| Yeah, it's culty. | ||
| Very culty. | ||
| It's weird how insanely culty it is. | ||
| And it's really off-putting. | ||
| Let's grab some more superchats. | ||
| Grab it by the balls. | ||
| Just to follow up on that, I'm sorry, it says, neither post contains evidence that the girls pictured were underage or establishes that anyone photographed was illegally consuming alcohol. | ||
| Daily Mail has not been able to verify the people in the photo. | ||
| Rundell Schmidt says, Trump is not pro-choice, Seamus. | ||
| He was the first president to ever speak at the Pro-Life March. | ||
| Thank you guys for doing great work. | ||
| Tim, thanks for helping people financially. | ||
| No, I so Trump's and this is part of the thing is a lot was asking this earlier like how could you pick Trump and you know over to Santa's and like my broader point is when it comes time to vote in the primaries I'm going to vote for who's most pro-life at that time I hope that that is Trump because I think he's a stronger candidate overall but what I will say is when he He did achieve many wonderful things for the pro-life movement, but when he does things like attack DeSantis for the six-week abortion ban and call it cruel, it is very off-putting for me. | ||
| The other side of that is Trump does just kind of say things. | ||
| I think that's a very responsible thing to say. | ||
| I wish he didn't say it. | ||
| I hope he doesn't believe it. | ||
| We'll see how his positions end up shaking out as the campaign goes on. | ||
| I hope he adopts a hardcore pro-life position. | ||
| I absolutely hope he's not You know, gonna stick with this or, like, officially adopt this position that a six-week abortion ban is bad. | ||
| When you say you vote for the pro-life candidate, do you mean because you like them both, you're gonna go for the one? | ||
| Or if there's someone, just a snake, that was pro-life and a really good person who was more for abor- or, like, not pro-life? | ||
| Why would you trust a snake's actually pro-life? | ||
| Like, if it was just someone who's like, we want to go to war in the Middle East, we want to conquer, we want to destroy, but I'm in a super pro-life, would you go for that guy over...? | ||
| If it's a choice between a war with the Middle East and a war with the unborn, I say neither, but I'm gonna vote for the most pro-life possible candidate. | ||
| Even if they're like a darkly evil person? | ||
| I think it's an interesting question, but like, overall, my principle is pro-life. | ||
| Yeah, that is the most important issue to me. | ||
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The main thing that we had to get done, which Trump did, because of the judges, it's back in the States. | |
| Yeah, no, exactly, and so that's what I'm saying. | ||
| You couldn't ask for more. | ||
| I think Trump, exactly, and so I think, and this is why I praise Trump for that, I think that there were massive pro-life victories that happened because of Trump, because of his appointments. | ||
| I think there's a good argument to be made that he was the most pro-life president we've ever had. | ||
| I mean, I'm definitely not dogging on him overall. | ||
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You can follow me at my Instagram is Adam5PR. | |
| Twitter is at AdamMatthew. | ||
| And thanks for having me, Tim. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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| Zach Voorhees. | ||
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