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May 30, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool

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Timcast IRL - Target TANKS 15%, Bud & Target Stock CRASH $28 BILLION, BOYCOTT WORKS w/Seth Weathers

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Target stock is down 15%.
		Combined, Target and Bud Light have lost around $28 billion in market share.
		And this really does matter because it seems like the tides are turning in the culture war.
		There's an article from New York Mag where these leftists are shocked to find that conservatives and the right were actually able to pull off a boycott and actually set a market shift.
		But now we're seeing more companies.
		Chick-fil-A hiring a diversity, equity, and inclusion VP.
		So this stuff is spreading.
		Plus we got a baseball player from the, I think, the Blue Jays bending the knee and engaging a struggle session because he supported the Target boycott.
		We gotta talk about this stuff.
		We've got a lot of news and I think the big story here is that last week CBS, I believe it was, reported that there were bomb threats at various Target locations.
		Without verifying, they posted a screenshot of an email that was purportedly sent to us at TimCast.com.
		We never received that email.
		That's fake news.
		So I don't know where they got the email.
		I don't know if it was a spoof or a hoax or what.
		However...
		We did receive similar emails, but not the one they posted.
		So I think it's obviously some kind of spoof.
		I am mildly perturbed they did not reach out to us and say, hey, did you receive your emails on this?
		So I'm assuming someone must have sent them a screenshot of a fake email that they then posted saying like, oh, look, it's real or something without checking.
		And then a bunch of other outlets posted the same thing.
		TMZ posted the same thing.
		So we're going to break this down and go over what's really going on.
		But there were several target locations evacuated.
		This stuff's getting pretty spicy, and I think when you look at this baseball player apologizing and saying he will be re-educated, you need to understand just how deeply entrenched we are.
		Go read 1984 or any one of these books.
		We're at the point of re-education.
		We've been here for some time, so we need to address it, especially when Chick-fil-A is doing this stuff.
		There is a lot of other news, too.
		We were originally going to lead with Tara Reid, Joe Biden's accuser.
		She claimed that he assaulted her, sexually assaulted her.
		She's fled to Russia.
		Now, The Guardian reports she's defected.
		That's an interesting story.
		And then, of course, World War III is in the news today, because this morning, Moscow suffered multiple drone attacks on civilian targets.
		So, we'll definitely get into all that, but I do think that we should focus on... You know, I was trying to figure out what I thought was the bigger story, but...
		I think American cultural breakdown.
		We have the elections coming up.
		You've got Trump, you've got DeSantis.
		We should be focusing on our cultural issues in this episode, but we will absolutely get into all the war stuff.
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		Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Seth Weathers.
		Oh wait, start over.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		I say great to be here.
		I'm on casprew.com because I feel bad I have not subscribed, but I'm gonna get the subscription for the coffee.
		Oh, you get the coffee club.
		Yeah, it smells amazing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's really good.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		It's actually very good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I'm actually just about to crack open this ultra-right conservative dad's beer.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		100% woke-free American beer.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		We'll see if he's woke-free after this is over.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh wow, that's good.
		I'm impressed.
		I'm not a big beer guy.
		That's pretty good.
		That's nice.
		So who are you?
		What do you do?
		Aside from, you know, I'm drinking your beer.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Seth Weathers launched this beer company about a month and a half ago at this point.
		And at this point in my life, I do nothing but manage a beer company.
		So it's taken off.
		We put out a video, an ad that I think probably a lot of your viewers have seen because you put it out there.
		Yeah.
		You put it out there the day we launched it.
		And on my Twitter account alone, I think we have over 46 million views, which is nuts.
		I don't have some huge Twitter account. Um, and it's just continued to get traction. You know,
		I think overall online between all the different places that's been placed,
		we're probably about a hundred million views.
		Like you don't start a beer company and have that kind of brand ID. It's,
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		it's wild. Yeah, it's actually really, I'm not, I'm not a big beer guy.
unidentified		I like yinling. I like this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a solid beer. You know,
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		it's not, and you know, This came out of the Bud Light controversy, but I do want to let people know, this is not a Bud Light knockoff, because I don't think Bud Light is a real beer.
		A watered-down beer.
		By the way, they were actually sued and lost millions of dollars for literally watering down their beer in the past.
unidentified		Oh, wow.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		So a lot of times what they're telling you, alcohol content and everything else, they've literally been busted for that in the past.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		How do you water down water?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's actually a horse... Wait, isn't Bud Light seltzer?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So this is your main thing right now, right?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		We're growing a lot.
		We're currently brewing in Georgia, and we're also brewing in Florida now, and we'll probably have people in other places around the country contract to brew this beer.
		And again, the growth has been wild.
		It's people like your listeners and you guys, literally you, that have helped support this and get it off the ground.
		And it's something that There's a lot of people that said this would never happen.
		They said they'll never find someone to brew it, especially not with that very dirty word, conservative, right on the bottle, which was bold and dangerous, but we did it.
		They said, we'll never get it brewed.
		We'll never get it bottled.
		You'll never get a distributorship.
		You'll never get licensed.
		You'll never get federal approval.
		These are all things that we've done in 45 days for one of the highest regulated industries there is in America.
		And it's wild this even happened in that.
		A lot of the right doors open.
		I was telling Ian earlier, it seems like every time a door shut, a better door open.
		I know that sounds cliche, but that's just kind of how this process has been.
		And, you know, it's exciting to see.
		I was excited to see conservatives stick through a boycott.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Me too!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But let's get into all that stuff.
		We've got a lot to talk about because I think this is sticking, it's expanding.
		We're seeing the corporate press start to freak out over it.
		So, Seth, thanks for joining us.
		We got Seamus Coghlan drinking a beer over here.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, it's cold.
		I like it.
		It's like a light beer with a little bitter kick to it.
		It really is good.
		They didn't pay me to say that.
		I've enjoyed my first couple sips of this.
		I'm Seamus Coghlan.
		I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.
		We just uploaded a video today that I think you guys are going to enjoy.
		It's about American public schools in the way that the left usually portrays them and satirizes them as being rah-rah-rah pro-America and then what public schools are actually like.
		I think you guys are really going to enjoy it.
		We had a lot of fun.
		We took an extra couple days on it just to throw more visual gags into it.
		We were going to upload it last Thursday but we spent extra time with it so it's a really solid piece and I think you'll all enjoy it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Hey, everybody.
		Welcome back.
		It's Tuesday.
		I hope you had a good Memorial Day, man.
		I'm Ian Crossland.
		Seth, so would you consider this a light beer?
		Because I'm drinking it now.
		It is light.
		It has kind of a light effervescence to it.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Legally, I cannot print on that can that it is a light beer without some kind of federal testing or something we have to go through.
		But I would say, for me, I would call it a mid-range between light and, I guess, full-bodied, somewhere in there.
		So, again, it's not like a Budweiser, which, again, I think we were kind of making jokes about, is just a beer-flavored water.
		So, we're not that.
		So, it's a real full-flavored beer.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You know, I think you're kind of filling a gap because Budweiser, maybe it was an American company at some point, it's been sold to AB InBev, now it's a Belgian company.
		Their headquarters is in Leuven, Belgium.
		So, thanks for making an American beer company.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		100% made in America.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
		Well, that's Ian for you.
		He's back.
		We got Serge here.
unidentified		Back!
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		And yeah, I'm here, guys.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Hope you had a good Memorial Weekend as well, and thanks for the beer, Seth.
unidentified		Appreciate it.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Great job.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Can I just mention something here about this beer and a lot of the other products that are being launched by conservatives now?
		This isn't the case for all of them.
		There are some that are still outsourcing, but I know even some of those are trying to bring more manufacturing to the U.S.
		in the long run, and that's kind of the point I want to make, which is one of the advantages of all of these conservative brands blowing up in response to left-wing shenanigans is they're starting more American-based companies.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's jump into this first story, and we'll talk all about it.
		We got this tweet from Mark J. Perry.
		He says get woke, go broke!
		Target shares have dropped by 15.3% in the last 11 days since the boycott started over
		LGBTQ-friendly kids' clothing, representing an eye-popping loss in its market value of
		$11.4 billion.
		This story from Fox Business.
		They say Target and Bud Light investors lose billions on marketing misses.
		Target and Eiser Busch have lost a combined $28 billion in market value.
		The Target thing stands out the most to me.
		Because this wasn't... Look, I understand the Dylan Mulvaney thing.
		Dylan Mulvaney's audience are children.
		Dylan Mulvaney is effectively just playing a character like Borat or, you know, who was the other character he played?
		Bruno?
		Was that it?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's one of them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's basically what Dylan Mulvaney's doing.
		And when people see that, they're put off by it, they're angered by it, they're insulted by it.
		They say, hey, we want an apology.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's also an adult male playing the role of a little girl.
unidentified		Yep.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Which made it even more, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's like Bruno.
		That's like, it's, it's, it's, it's, right.
		It's, it disturbs people.
		What I've heard from many people is, uh, and I'm not trying to be overtly derisive, but people said disgust.
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so what, you know, at first I was saying of the Bud Light boycott that people just don't want to be associated with an effeminate beer.
		Then I had people say to me like, no, they actually, they look at it with disgust because it's associated now.
		I can understand the boycott there is very strong.
		The emotions are very strong.
		The thing with Target is that this is just a company doing their typical Pride Month thing.
		All of the companies are going to start putting the Pride Month stuff out there.
		Target now losing billions, $11.4 billion in market value for doing what companies have done for some time.
		That marks a massive shift.
		That's why I think this story is so important.
		Because typically, these companies do this stuff, nobody bats an eye.
		Conservatives don't do a thing.
		But now we're experiencing a cascade, an exponential gain in the Bud Light effect.
		Here's how I described it earlier.
		Somebody's holding shares, stock, in Target and Bud Light.
		Let's say they got 100 of each, hypothetical number.
		And they're told, don't worry, the Bud Light thing will blow over.
		Boycotts never work.
		And they say, OK.
		And they're sitting on $63 per share.
		Now it's at $59.
		And they're going, dude, I just lost like 8% because you told me to wait.
		So they sell.
		That triggers the price going down even more.
		But they're also holding target stock.
		Let's just say it's at a hypothetical number X. And then the controversy breaks.
		They go, nuh-uh.
		I am not going to wait around and lose another 10%.
		They sell.
		Now, there is a fear in the market being brewed.
		Doesn't matter if you actually oppose wokeness.
		It doesn't matter if you support wokeness.
		All that matters is, if a company gets woke, their stock will go down.
		And that will create a self-fulfilling prophecy.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		And I think what happened with the whole Bud Light effect, as you called it, which is a great term, is it gave conservatives confidence because we had zero reason to be confident in any type of boycott.
		I've said for years, we've got to pick one company.
		I've said this for probably 10 years.
		We've got to pick one company that's done something.
		It's got to be something we can live without.
		We can certainly live without horse urine.
		I don't want to get you a mark on YouTube here.
		We've got to pick one company that we can do without and go all in and cause permanent economic damage.
		Until we cause permanent economic harm to one of these companies, it'll keep happening.
		We skip a couple football games, but we're back in the stands three weeks later, three games later.
		They don't give a crap.
		They know the conservatives will be back.
		They cave every time.
		We'll have a blip for three weeks.
		This sent the message that, oh wow, these guys are sticking to it, they're angry.
		And when people see the effect of the Bud Light thing, like you said, it's self-fulfilling.
		Now they're wanting to recreate it.
		They're energized and they have a confidence level of, hey, we can actually do this as conservatives.
		Like, wow, we do have half the buying power.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Take a look at this story from New York Mag.
		Just asking questions is the section.
		Bud Light Target and a New Era of Corporate Caution by Benjamin Hart.
		I love this.
		He says, initially he thought nothing would happen.
		He says, I assumed it would have little to no effect.
		Instead, it has delivered a major hit to Bud Light's sales.
		He then goes on to say, why do you, he says, do you think, okay, let me start over.
		How unusual is it for a campaign to be working this well and do you think those factors are why it's been so successful?
		Ladies and gentlemen, pat yourselves on the back.
		I mean, this is significant.
		This is going on two months now, and it's only getting worse for any of the brands associated with the cult.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and this is extremely encouraging to see.
		You mentioned a moment ago the fact that the Bud Light boycotts went very well.
		Significant damage was caused to a company which was pushing something horrible.
		I remember when the Target boycotts began, one thing I said was we need to be very careful about ensuring that we stick to the Target boycott because this is going to determine whether the Bud Light boycott was a fluke Or whether conservatives as a market are going to retain this power.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah.
		The thing is, if we jump out there too quick and we start trying to boycott everything real quick, none of them will be successful.
		Agreed.
		And we will start losing our effectiveness, which is back to what I was saying.
		We have to cause permanent economic harm to a large company.
		And Bud Light has so far been that company.
		And it looks like their brand, man, I've never seen a brand destroyed so quickly and so succinctly ever.
		They're not going to be able to just come back and all of a sudden, you know, they've put out bottles with camouflage bottles.
		They just put out a Harley-Davidson Special Edition bottle.
unidentified		Oh my gosh.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Like, it's just harming Harley-Davidson.
		It's not bringing their brand back.
		And so, again, if we stick to it, I don't know how long a target Boycott will last.
		It's harder for a lot of people to do without.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's not about the boycott, though.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's the important thing.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		No, I get what you're saying on the other side of it, but just saying as to what conservatives will actually stick through in holding the feet to the fire economically.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think conservatives actually boycott a target.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think regular people got pissed.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, I see two things happening.
		Bud Light was a boycott.
		It was high-profile individuals.
		Then, what this guy points out in the New York Mag article is that people boycott, so the media picks it up, so the news spreads, so more people boycott.
		With Target, I think something was happening before the news even broke.
		We started seeing these videos pop up of people complaining.
		Then news broke of Target saying they had confrontations.
		Well, hold on.
		There was not enough time to have elapsed in when people on Twitter saw videos and when confrontations could have happened.
		I think regular people walked into Target and went, yo, WTF?
		I got my kids with me.
		I don't want them seeing this stuff.
		Then they filmed videos.
		Then Target responded.
		What we're seeing now with Target's stock collapsing is connected to Bud Light.
		But it doesn't matter what... So here's the important thing.
		Look.
		The way I explained this last week was that I knew this woke woman and she inherited property from her family in New York.
		And she was talking about marginalized people and all of that stuff.
		And I asked her if a black family moved next to her property in New York, would she sell?
		And she went, of course!
		And I was like, are you kidding?
		I was like, that's racist.
		I was like, why would you do that?
		And she said, because property value goes down.
		And I was like, are you kidding me?
		It goes down because people like you do this.
		And she's like, yup.
		And there's nothing I can do about it.
		So I'm not going to be the one who gets economically hurt by the system.
		What people need to understand is that the biases, I've talked about this before, this is a systemic bias, the market responds to fear of the market.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And we've now created that because of Bud Light.
		It does not matter what people do going to Target.
		All that matters is the stock will go down.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That means you could do absolutely nothing and people holding Target will lose money because of the negative press, causing them to panic sell, causing the price to go down, Creating a cascade effect.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm reminded of this quote that's attributed to Mayor Amshel Rothschild, who founded the Rothschild banking dynasty, which was like the precursor to the world, the banking, this liberal economic order banking dynasty is the Rothschilds.
		They said that he said, give me control of the nation's money and I care not who makes its laws.
		So when you talk about having control of money, it's not necessarily who prints it.
		That's not where the control ends.
		It's how you spend it.
		And when you get enough people to come together to choose how to spend their money and how not to spend their money, you are more powerful than any amount of lawmaking.
		And this is shown with this AB InBev drop in 11% of their stock value and Targis drop in 11%.
		I mean, you can make bank runs.
		That's the most powerful force on earth if you want to talk about like, I'm not advocating for that.
		I thought a lot about that over the last 15 years.
		Like, wow, I could just tell everyone to pull their money out on a certain day at a certain time.
		But it's like, that almost feels like economic terrorism.
		You know, but that amount of power that you could to move the market and control Earth.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		I think Congress commits economic terrorism on us every single day.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's their job.
		You know, this phrase, economic terrorism, I was just going to mention this because you're absolutely correct that the people have a tremendous power.
		I mean, this is called the dollar democracy.
		You can choose where you spend your money and companies are afraid of that.
		That is why they're trying to label what's happening to target a kind of economic terrorism.
		They're referring to us as extremists for not wanting to shop there anymore.
		It's because they're scared.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think as long as you're not trying to hurt people and destroy the system, there's no terror involved.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You have no responsibility to spend your money anywhere.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's totally up to you.
		The terror is the inverse.
		The terror is when Antifa is like, you must support these things or else.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Or when they burned Target down!
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Like they did!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like they did!
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Target got burnt down by BLM in a riot, and then they issued a statement saying, we support BLM.
		People started boycotting Target because they're pushing the gross, groomy, LGBTQ agenda onto kids, and Target was like, well, this is completely unacceptable.
		You have no right to do that.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Did you see a letter?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, Target said, we're so sorry, we're gonna hide all this stuff in the back, and then whisper to the LGBT community saying, don't worry, we got your back.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So...
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Well, they did kind of like what Bud Light did.
		We're hiding it in the back because these conservatives are so dangerous, they're going to come hurt you.
		And then one thing that I like to point out that a lot of people missed with the whole Bud Light thing, you know, everyone, there's all this talk you hear constantly that, oh, Bud Light, they fired their VP of marketing.
		They didn't fire anyone.
		Yeah, I know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Hey, leave.
		And if you even read their statement as to why she went on paid leave, at the end of the statement, you know, I don't have it in front of me right now.
		I could pull it up, I guess.
		It says something to the effect of being concerned for the safety of our employees, almost implying she was in so much danger from conservatives by being out in front.
		They never disavowed anything they did.
		I mean, conservatives wanted to call victory on that.
		You can't.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to jump to the story from Newsweek.
		Ladies and gentlemen, the latest update in the sales numbers coming through this morning at 7 a.m., Bud Light sales dropped 29.5% in latest week.
		30%.
		We round up.
		We round up here.
unidentified		30%.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That is massive.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Anecdotally, we were at a- That is brutal, dude.
		We were at a hotel over the weekend and they had drink tickets from 537 Free Drinks.
		I was like, great, I'll get a beer.
		I'll get something IPA.
		They're like, the only free beer is Bud Light.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Did you notice that?
unidentified		Did you guys notice that?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Did they say that?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It was Bud Light and one other Bud.
unidentified		Oh, that's so funny.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They cannot shove it out the door fast enough.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's like, you know what, I'll pay for my drink, okay?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, thanks, I'm not getting the cheap, free... They're trying to move it!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They can't get it off the shelves.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's expiring, and so they know it's going to go bad eventually, and so it's going to be worth literally zero to them.
		So, I mean, the economic situation... It becomes a cost.
		They have to remove it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How long does a beer last?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		It depends on the beer and the bottle, even down to the cans.
		Again, it depends on the beer and the cans.
		Some people say different times, you can easily have a beer for six months, but you gotta keep in mind, some people say way longer.
		I wouldn't say.
		But you gotta keep in mind, those beers that are on the shelf, they came and got in and put it on the shelf on Thursday.
		That beer was not canned.
		With a company like Budweiser, that was not canned the week prior.
		This is a massive process with these things.
		So they've been traveling around the country depending on where they're at.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Does it get better over time, like wine?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Uh, no, definitely not.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's more bitter, more like rancid.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Probably flattens, right?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		It flattens.
		I don't know that I would say rancid.
		I haven't tried a super old beer, so I can't really say, but I do know it goes bad.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Check this out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They say, according to data by Bump Williams Consulting and Nielsen IQ provided to Newsweek, in the week ending May 20th, sales volume, the number of units of beer sold declined 29.5% compared to the same period last year, while sales revenue was down 25.7% on the same.
unidentified		Look.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is not just a success.
		We were reading a previous article, for those who are just tuning in, talking about New York Magazine and why it's so successful.
		Success is an understatement.
		Success is like someone boycotts a product and then the sales drop in the single digits and the company apologizes a week later and then you move on.
		This is 30% two months later.
		This is brand-ending apocalyptic.
		The fear Yeah, you know, we've talked about this before.
		through all these other companies, Target loses $11 billion in market value, and they
		explicitly said, we fear a Bud Light situation.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know, we've talked about this before, you just touched on it a little bit earlier.
		A huge part of this is the fact that we've politicized issues that should not be political,
		Forcing this stuff onto kids shouldn't be a political issue, and your average person knows that.
		They're perturbed by it without being a member of a specific political party, even if the Republican Party is the only one which will stand against it, your average person isn't a fan of it.
		And when it comes to Dylan Mulvaney, your average person is grossed out by Dylan Mulvaney.
		They don't want to... I mean, look, a man in a dress is a very off-putting thing, especially a man in a dress who really thinks he's a woman.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Chick-fil-A's doing it.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, Chick-fil-A's gonna get themselves into some trouble there, but all I'll say is, this isn't just ideologically charged, this is your average person, as you mentioned, building up an association of disgust with a brand.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I just want to say, I don't think, personally, I don't think a guy in a dress is gross.
unidentified		I do.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's a guy that pretends to be a little girl.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's when I start to be like, way... I think that makes it way worse.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I think that makes it way worse.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Both are gross to me, but I think that makes it way worse.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It would be another thing if it was in a play, and the guy just got, they just cast an adult man as the little girl in the play.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I can even suspend my disbelief for the sake of entertainment, but it's when it's like, people are saying, I'm really this way.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		I would want to question the person that made that casting call.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, theater people are weird.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Dylan Mulvaney thing is not just that it's a man, you know, dressing up in a dress.
		It's not that it's a man pretending to be a little girl.
		It's that Dylan Mulvaney is intentionally insulting everyone.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Well, and Bud White was asking you to lie to us.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Let's remember the whole purpose of the can was celebrating 365 days of being a woman.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But the can wasn't the issue.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		No, I understand, but I'm saying the whole point of them doing a sponsorship with her was, in their words, celebrating him being a woman for 365 days.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Except, what initially started this wasn't just the can.
		It was a video of Dil Mulvaney grabbing a stack of Bud Lights, putting them down, and then the media claimed everyone's mad over a single can that was sent as a thank you, having nothing to do.
		They're lying.
		Dil Mulvaney's Instagram post has a Bud Light contest hashtag.
		Dylan Mulvaney places a bunch of Bud Lights, says thanks, cracks one open, talks about their program and how you can participate or whatever.
		It was clearly a direct Bud Light sponsorship having nothing to do with the can.
		The media tries twisting and lying because they don't want regular people to know what's going on.
		But here's what I see.
		You name it, Dylan Mulvaney is the negative marketing element.
		You've got people who are like, wow, why is this guy dressing up like a little girl?
		You've got conservatives who don't like men in dresses, as Seamus described it.
		Ian, who is not conservative, but still acting like a little girl is extremely off-putting.
		I agree with both to a certain degree, but I think Dylan Mulvaney insults women, Dylan Mulvaney insults trans people, and Dylan Mulvaney insults liberals, and like literally just insulting everyone in any way imaginable.
		And I think it's on purpose.
		There was a video that went viral of Dylan watching some movie and fake crying.
		And once again, they're laughing in the background.
		They're laughing at Dylan fake crying.
		And I don't think they're laughing because of the moment.
		I think they're genuinely... I think Dylan goes, hey guys, watch this, watch this.
		Did you see that?
		Wasn't that funny?
		And then they're all laughing.
		They're having a good time mocking people.
		And I think Dylan's exploiting the algorithm, and that's why TikTok is propping up these videos.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Dude, the video of Dylan on Twitter where he's like, I feel like now I'm attracted to women.
		I told my dad, he's like, well, good, I hope you get a girl pregnant.
		He's like, no, no, she's gonna get me pregnant.
		And it's like, dude, he is joking.
		He's a goofball.
		Like, the dude is pulling one over on the human race.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's Borat.
		It is Bruno.
		It is a person.
		So, again, we've mentioned this before.
		But this is what we've had a couple, I've had a couple trans social media personalities tell me, the facial hair removal laser stuff is the easiest and cheapest thing to do, and Dylan has not done it.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		But, I think that Dylan is a very good example of Poe's Law, right?
		You're all saying that you think it's an act, because he's clearly being ridiculous, but we're at a point where reality is indistinguishable from satire.
		I see, I see.
		Basically, the idea that at some point it becomes incredibly difficult to tell the difference between somebody's sincere opinion and satire because of how ridiculous things have gotten.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that is true.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		If you pretend to be something, you kind of become that thing.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, and also, it's this idea, or the way it's usually used is to express that things are so out of control right now that you can't tell if somebody's serious when they say something because even just a few years ago it would be a joke, or if someone else said it, it would be a joke.
		For example, I won't state it out loud, but we asked a certain left-wing commentator if performing certain acts- Adult activities.
		Activities on the male body is gay, and he said not if it's on a woman, which is clearly- It's awesome.
		Here's the- here's the previous thing. And that's Poe's Law, because that's like a joke, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But beyond that, he said- I have no problem- it's Lance from the surf, he's on the show.
		He said that if a man engages in relations with a masculine, ugly woman, he is gay.
		Yeah. And- and Ian was like, that's not cool, man, you can't call someone gay because
		their girlfriend's ugly. Like- Like, for real, like, that's kind of messed up.
unidentified		I'm pretty sure that's happened.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I think you're right.
		I think what happens is, Poe's Law is a good example of what happens on the internet.
		Dylan Mulvaney goes in hiking heels, wearing high heels and dancing in the forest and then falling down because of a bug.
		I think that's fake.
		But kids don't know it's fake, and so they start imitating these behaviors.
		You then end up with people like Lance, who I think is 40-something years old, genuinely believing that is the left, and then going on a public show to millions of people and saying, if you date an ugly woman, you're gay.
		And if you date a small, petite, effeminate man, you are not gay.
		It's like, okay, wait, what, dude?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I hear you, but I think the difference is, so part of this law is that it's indistinguishable.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I think that is the left.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This means all bears will be surprised to learn that their twink boyfriends make them straight.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I get it, because he was also saying we can't have hot or not, right?
		But he contradicted himself several times.
		Yeah, but I guess my overarching point is things have gone so off the rail, and the left's morality surrounding human sexuality and quote-unquote gender, which is a term I hate, is so insane that It might seem like someone is joking, it might seem too ridiculous to believe, but that doesn't mean it's not real.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well do you think satire and parody are like satanic?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't think so because I think they can be used to highlight truth, but I think that what happens is the world can become so insane that something which in any other era would be a harmless joke is now something taken seriously.
		So here's a great example.
		There was a bit in Monty Python's Meaning of Life where a child is born and they give it to the mother and the mother says, is it a boy or a girl?
		And the doctor says, well, it's a bit early to be assigning roles to it, don't you think?
		And I remember seeing that 10 years ago and going, oh my gosh, they made this joke decades ago and this is actually about to be a massive social justice issue, quote unquote, and it is now.
		So I don't think that it was evil for Monty Python to make that joke.
		I think the direction that our country has gone in is evil.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, you know, I was thinking earlier today.
		Gen Z and millennials are literally idiocracy.
		Now, idiocracy was a lot of gag humor and stuff, but we did this video segment last week.
		Isabel Brown had a clip where this comedian's mocking Gen Z for being unable to write in cursive, unable to use calculators or find directions and use paper maps.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Or work.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or work.
		But seriously, they don't want to work.
		Polls show they don't want to do work.
unidentified		I'm aware.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And she said that if Gen Z does take over, it'll be really easy to take it back.
		And then Isabel Brown makes the point, like, you were supposed to teach us.
		I was thinking about that, and I'm like, it's not just Gen Z. Millennials, too, are completely incapable.
		Seamus and I were talking about one of the guests we had on this show.
		A lefty.
		And he said something like, if you want to cover healthcare, just deficit spend.
		Print the money to pay the bills.
		And I said, okay, let's start from the beginning.
		Where does food come from?
		And his response was?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		At the grocery store.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This was an adult?
		An adult human male in his, what is he, 30s or something?
		And we're like, no, food doesn't come from the grocery store.
		It goes, oh my, like, okay, first you have a farm.
		They make the food.
		Then it gets sent to maybe like a regional processing plant where that particular food item is processed.
		Then it has to get bottled, shipped to a bottling plant.
		Then it gets shipped to a regional warehouse where it's then sent, depending on the product you have.
		Sometimes fruits are directly handled right there on the farm, sent to a regional distribution, and then right to the supermarkets.
		So I knew somebody who did honey.
		One company would go and collect all the honey from 50 small farms, bottle it at their plant, and then distribute it.
		So there's three steps.
		But no, not the grocery store.
		Thinking about that, I realized, We're in idiocracy.
		Yeah, we're literally at the point where you walk up to the guy and say well Where's the food grocery store don't have any and you're like no food comes from farms What it comes from the grocery store and you're like, oh, yeah, but by the way, I don't I don't want to mention Who it was and the conversation was off-air, but it wasn't Lance.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I don't was not Lance.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to know tell me offer Yeah, and but I've had numerous conversations with people where I've talked about this.
		I had one conversation during the lockdowns where I tried explaining, I was tweeting to somebody and I said, they were talking about Food in the grocery store and giving people money and they were like, the government should just start giving people more money to cover their bills while we're locked down.
		And I said, right, but money represents labor, it's debt, right?
		So if you're creating the means to acquire without creating the means themselves, you're gonna create this inverse reaction.
		He's like, what are you talking about?
		That makes no sense.
		And I'm like, let's start from the beginning.
		Where does milk come from?
		And he said, the grocery store.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Oh my gosh.
		This is what I try to- Supermarket.
		So this is one way I try to explain this to people.
		The economy is like a giant pizza.
		And the amount of currency you have is the amount of slices in that pizza.
		If the pizza doesn't get any bigger, all cutting more slices into it does is diminishes each slice.
		Now you could be in a situation where I don't know.
		You don't feel that the pie, given its size, is being distributed adequately, so we have to make more slices.
		You can make that argument.
		But to say, well, the pie isn't growing, let's slice it up more, is idiotic.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but then you get two slices instead of one chance.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Ah, that's a good point.
		But that's actually the reasoning when they say just print more money.
		You're just cutting more slices into a pizza that's either staying the same size or even shrinking.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then I thought to myself, I was like, we're in idiocracy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like, we're here.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Have you seen how popular crocs are these days?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, everybody, I got bad news for you.
		It's time to bring up the dark news.
		These are the dark days.
		From News Channel 8 on your side, Chick-fil-A's DEI leader sparks calls for boycott.
		That's right!
		Chick-fil-A has hired a diversity, equity, and inclusion officer, a VP, Named Eric McReynolds says, Chick-fil-A restaurants have long been recognized as a place where people know they will be treated well, modeling care for other starts in the restaurant, and we are committed to ensuring mutual respect, understanding, and dignity everywhere we do business.
		These tenets are good business practice and crucial for fulfilling our corporate purpose, blah blah blah.
		They then go on to list a whole bunch of garbage and people and stuff like that, and at the bottom they say that they have a commitment.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Look, I'm from Georgia, which is where Chick-fil-A is based out of and literally was formed and founded.
		If there's a long-term boycott of Chick-fil-A, then conservatives will want everything, because I don't know that you're going to pull that one off.
		Because there's a lot of people that are going to fight back on that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I say boycott Chick-fil-A.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying whether you do or not.
		I'm saying if it actually is successful, I will be very impressed.
		I could not imagine a more difficult company to talk conservative moms.
		Boycotting in my home state of Georgia even if even if you're showing them this they will overlook a lot and I think a lot of those moms don't when you just say DEI like look they're taking their kids to 14 different practices and running around all over the place and you're trying to say DEI this and like I don't know I'm just getting my kids nuggets with a pleasant person that's nice to me well I get what you're saying with the argument for it I just don't know that it will be successful It's easier to villainize Bud White, sorry, than Chick-fil-A.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I would agree, but this is also part of why this is so disappointing to me.
		Chick-fil-A has sort of had a bit of wokeness creeping into it over the years.
		In 2020, during the BLM riots, I believe that the founder was supporting BLM.
		Don't quote me on that.
		It might have either been the founder or the CEO.
		But there have been a number of issues there and it's a shame because I was very proud to support Chick-fil-A and what they were doing for quite a while and I thought the left's reaction to them was very fascinating and very telling because the left said that Chick-fil-A was evil and why was Chick-fil-A evil?
		Well, because one of the owning members or CEOs or higher-ups didn't spend the company's money, but spent his own money donating to an organization that was not pro-LGBTQ, that was in favor of preserving marriage.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		It was a church camp or something.
unidentified		Yeah.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And people lost their minds over this.
		Now think about this for a moment.
		Chick-fil-A is known to not only be one of the most profitable fast food chains per franchise, but They're also known to be one of the best franchises in terms of how they treat their employees.
		They pay them decently, especially as far as fast food restaurants go, and they ensure to give all of them one single day off every single week.
		Where they're not going to try to profit off of them, they're going to give them a day to relax and be there for their family, even if it means they're not selling to their customers that day.
		The worst thing the left should have been able to say about Chick-fil-A is, Well, it's morally complicated, because they should have appreciated the fact that they treated their workers well.
		But they don't, because they don't care about workers, they care about their sick, perverse sexual agenda, and anyone who opposes it, even with just a whisper, has to be absolutely destroyed.
		And I remember...
		The Burger King released an advertisement during Pride Month about two years ago, where they said they were releasing their own chicken sandwich.
		And their chicken sandwich was in favor of LGBTQ rights, and you could get it on Sunday.
		So in the same breath, they were mocking Chick-fil-A for being anti-LGBTQ, and mocking them for giving their workers one day off of work.
		Burger King should be ashamed for the way they treat their workers.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's not just a sexual agenda.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is an all-around cultural revolution.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I think it starts with that.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I think that's a huge part of it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it's just absolutely obvious what this is.
		Like, we talked about this before, but DEI, D-E-I, literally is the Latin singular for God.
		These people are creating offices of God, but it's not, it's a simulacrum.
		Someone commented that a moment ago, that don't move into simulacrum, not the words in my mind.
		It is a false I think both are true.
		that is being created to substitute it for people and they are marching in lockstep like deranged psychopaths.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's so, I think both are true.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Culturally.
		The son, Dan Cathy Jr. is not his father and if I had to make a prediction and bet all
		the beer in the world on it, I would say that Dan Cathy Jr.
		is going to cave to the left.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Dan Cathy Jr.?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Who's that?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		The son.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Maybe the second junior or whatever.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Of the owner of Chick-fil-A?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Truett Cathy's the founder, and then I guess... Oh, I see.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Dan Cathy is the chairman.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Currently.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Right, but is he a junior?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe he's not.
		Whatever.
		I disagree with you.
		I think Chick-fil-A will be one of the easier things to boycott.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm saying, okay, I'll bet you money on that one.
		I'm just, A, they're not a public company.
		They're not a public company.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Which means it's easier to pressure.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		No, you can't go after their stock.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But see, the thing about Chick-fil-A is that they already have the disadvantage of being the Christian company when it comes to the issue with the left.
		So the left is targeting them very heavily and ignoring all these other companies that have done anything remotely similar.
		I think one of the funny things about the Chick-fil-A boycotts on the left was that other companies had made similar donations, but nobody cared.
		It's because Chick-fil-A was overtly Christian.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Chick-fil-A, my understanding, they're trying to get into more urban markets, but because Chick-fil-A is so pronounced, conservatives have identified with it, and are now going to be, in my opinion, much more offended by it.
		And, you mentioned suburban moms?
		Dad might be like, eh, go to Popeyes.
		That's all it takes.
		All it takes is for the husband or the dad to be like, just go to Popeye's, honey, it's across the street.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		I get it, but I'm from Georgia, and look, I get the understanding of like, we should, all this kind of stuff, but go to a Chick-fil-A in suburbia Georgia right now, and you're not gonna see a lot of dads in there, you're gonna see a lot of moms with a lot of little kids.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And what I'm saying is, when mom is like, hey, I'm gonna pick up the kids after soccer, and then we're gonna go grab some Chick-fil-A, and all it takes is for him to say, bring them to Popeye's.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, the one thing, though, in this Chick-fil-A is incredibly efficient.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look, if the mom doesn't care about the brand at all, Then the slightest nudge should knock her off.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		No, but the moms love the brand.
		That's what I'm saying.
		The moms absolutely love the Chick-fil-A brand.
		I cannot think of a brand the superb moms love more than Chick-fil-A.
		At least in the South.
		Keep in mind, y'all don't have them up here yet.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not really.
		What do you mean?
		We have them all over the place.
		We get Chick-fil-A all the time.
		We order big things of Chick-fil-A here.
		We're not going to do it anymore.
		I'm not going to buy from them.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I would agree with you if- Every mall's got it.
		I would agree with you if the point was simply that, you know, people are only going to Chick-fil-A because of the more conservative values, the fact that they've been maligned by the left, but they have probably the most efficient drive-thru system of any fast food chain.
		They can get you in and they can get you out no matter how long that line is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely wrong.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, that is not wrong.
		You cannot, absolutely, I'm completely correct.
		Snopes fact-checked what you said was true.
		Snopes agrees with you.
		I'm correct about this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Chick-fil-A's drive-thru is overloaded.
		Explain it.
		If there's one drive-thru restaurant that I've left, it's Chick-fil-A.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		And that's up here locations?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This was in Jersey and downtown.
unidentified		here. In Jersey, yes, here's the problem. And down here.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Even here. So that's what I'm talking about in the South. Maybe y'all don't have enough homeschool kids
		here to run the Chick-fil-A's like we do in the South. But that is, like, jokingly, it is
		largely run by homeschool kids.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If you think the moral fiber of the homeschool kids and conservatives are so weak they can't
unidentified		even push back on this, then so be it. You're not going to have me arguing the strong moral fiber of
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		conservatives willing to stand up.
		I've been proud and impressed to see that with Bud Light, but we have a history of conservatives of not standing up for anything.
		I agree.
		Again, I get it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But also, about the drive-thru thing, that's crazy.
		The lines take so long.
		And I understand it's an issue of demand.
		But I would say, every time I've gone to Taco Bell, I drive up, I order, we drive up, we wait a little bit, we order, we're gone.
		Starbucks, we wait a little bit, we drive up, we order, we're gone.
		Chick-fil-A, we sit in line, someone comes out the window, they take our order, we're sitting there, a half an hour later we get our food, and I'm like... There's two lanes to go through, there's an exit lane, it's insane.
		They've prioritized their drive-through to such a ridiculous degree, on more than one occasion, we've just been like, let's just leave.
		And then we've pulled out and left, because it took too long.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Every time I've ever gone there, I've been extremely impressed with how quickly I got through the drive-thru.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Like, I've been to McDonald's or Taco Bell or Wendy's with a line that was a quarter of the length of Chick-fil-A lines I've been in, and it took five times as long.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's my experience.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		It looks like it would be different in the South, I promise you this.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That could also be, but the thing is, when you're in the South, like, I'm sorry, I also have lived in Georgia for a number of years, service is usually much slower there.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		When I go to Chick-fil-A on there, it is like you are in and out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Then go to the one here.
unidentified		I may do that tomorrow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They've hired a DEI.
		This is more than just a promotional campaign.
		This is outright saying from the top down they have put a cult non-theistic religious office in their business.
		And it's worse than the Chinese Communist Party.
		The Chinese Communist Party, as a government agency, puts Communist Party offices in businesses in China.
		But it is an element of government.
		This is a cult that is putting its tendrils in everything.
		And the story that the media is running is that the right is angry over equality or something like that.
		They're lying, of course.
		They're making up lies.
		The reality is a new, excuse me, non-theistic, non-theistic religion is now putting itself in all of our businesses and then forcing those businesses to destroy themselves.
		Unless, like, we're at the point now Where it may be the moral fiber of the average American, if you're right, is so pathetic that we're doomed.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think part of what's really disturbing about the Chick-fil-A situation is that usually with this DEI stuff, when it's implemented, my understanding is it's because people think that that will make their business more attractive to venture capital or shareholders, but Chick-fil-A isn't even a publicly traded company.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea where the demand was.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Unless they have some kind of plans for venture capital expansion, etc.
		But that's part of what we're, you know, you're talking about the lack of courage or sticking through.
		That's part of, a large part of why we created Conservative Dad's Ultra Right Beer.
		And it was to encourage people to make a stand and stick through that stand.
		And, you know, beer happens to be the catalyst.
		And, you know, one day I was talking with Scott Pressler, We're going to use this as a catalyst.
		We're going to have on the cans a QR code where you can scan it to register to vote.
		Because we have tons of rural, conservative individuals that drink a lot of beer, but don't vote.
		And so we're going to use this as a catalyst to get those people to do that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That is brilliant!
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Tell them to vote responsibly.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think if they're drinking Conservative Dad's Ultrarite beer, there's a good chance they're going to vote okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to follow up this tweet from Samuel Say.
		This tweet helps you understand why it is that companies like Chick-fil-A get woke.
		He says this is serious.
		Anthony Bass is a professing Christian.
		He shared a post supporting the Target boycott.
		Now he's apologizing for hurting the pride community and he says he'll better educate himself.
		He is betraying Jesus and his conscience.
		Pray for him.
		I want to play for you this short clip of what he had to say.
		Here we go.
unidentified		I recognize yesterday I made a post that was hurtful to the Pride community, which includes friends of mine and close family members of mine, and I am truly sorry for that.
		I just spoke with my teammates and shared with them my actions yesterday.
		I apologized with them and as of right now I'm using the Blue Jays resources to better educate myself to make better decisions moving forward.
		The ballpark is for everybody.
		We include all fans at the ballpark and we want to welcome everybody.
		That's all I have to say.
		Thank you.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh my goodness.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So this is him saying he's going to get re-educated.
		Like, no joke, he says he's using the resources of the Blue Jays to better educate himself.
		It's literally, like, we used to make fun of this.
		You know, in The Simpsons, they get re-neducated.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The idea of being forced to undergo a struggle session and re-education we knew in this country was a sign something was wrong.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This pathetic coward of a man.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Hat in hand, pathetic.
		And that's back to what I was talking about with the caving.
		Conservatives tend to cave.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How do you feel, Seamus?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's a Christian.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think he should have stayed strong to his values as a Christian.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I don't know what to say.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I would say he's not a Christian.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, I can't say he's not a Christian, but I can say that I don't think a Christian should cave into a mob that's trying to promote sin.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Because he has young fans who look up to him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's not a Christian.
		When I was a little kid, I remember I went to Catholic school, and I remember we were learning about religious wars and stuff like that, in a very limited sense.
		but i remember hearing about like you know one religious faction would say convert or else
		and i was thought to myself i was like why not just lie just say oh sure sure of course i i hear by convert so they
		don't kill you well that's what people would say with them no
		they would say no exactly the fact that this guy in in what a day
		Dropped to his knees and begged, begged, please, I'll renounce my entire faith if you just leave me alone!
		Like, dude, his balls must have shrunk down to the size of marbles and sucked up right into his body.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Three times before the rooster crowed, he denied Christ from the way I heard that.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, I'll mention this, when you say that people would say convert or die, and some people would lie about that, I mean, in part, that's...
		When you ask, like, why not lie?
		Well, they're okay with you lying.
		They're okay with you not actually believing as long as you're willing, yeah, to throw your beliefs under the bus.
		So I definitely hear what you're saying there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They want you to profess to the world that you give up.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and I think it's very sad that he did this, and I really hope that he repents.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I really hope he repents and turns back to Christ, but I also am not going to, like, make a specific claim about it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He was due to make three million in 2023.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So that's what he's speaking for the three million right now.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, a prophet's a man nothing to give his soul and gain the world in return.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You think that he would have been better if he just stuck to his word and got fired?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Amen, yeah, absolutely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Because they're persecuting him for the sake of the kingdom.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		He should embrace it, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What is it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's easier to fit a camel through the eye of a needle?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that's exactly why.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		But with God, all things are possible.
		That said, yes, this is one of the reasons.
		That's exactly why.
		That is one of the reasons.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because this guy would It's remarkable.
		But this says to me, this man is not a Christian.
		For if he truly believed, there is nothing on God's green earth that would have him profess to the world a rejection of his faith.
		Unless he did not have it in the first place.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's hard, it's also really difficult to speak to whether someone had it in the first place, too.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Those aren't claims I can make, but I would say that was not the Christian thing to do, to renounce.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But look, my point is this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you think this man truly believes that when he dies, he will be judged?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That action certainly doesn't indicate that he believes that.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I can't tell you what he believes, but that action doesn't indicate he believes it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't believe he'll be judged.
		He believes that, right now, in his life, he can say anything for any personal gain.
		He is a fake Christian.
		And this is an issue so many people on the left have had with Christians for a long time.
		People like him, who claim to be Christians, who clearly are not.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, they love Christians who are willing to cave into them, right?
		But their argument is... What I mean is... No, I get what you're saying.
		He's very valuable to the left, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		For me, growing up, so much of the complaints I heard in cities was that there were people who were claimed to be Christian, and then they would be the nastiest, most cutthroat, evil, greedy people you've ever met.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that's exactly what that guy is.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Christians give Christians a bad name often.
		And I have an example that's interesting.
		I haven't really told this.
		So we originally started with this beer when we announced it.
		We had worked with a brewery in Illinois.
		And they had told us initially, I don't think they understood how big this would get.
		And so initially they said, yes, they would brew the beer for us, yada yada.
		Things were proceeding forward.
		And they let us know that they're very good Christians.
		That they are concerned about what's happening with all the trans stuff being pushed on kids.
		They're conservatives.
		These are things that are important to them.
		They believed.
		Well, they believed up until Newsweek called.
unidentified		What's the name of the brewery?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		I pulled that out to make sure, because there's another brewery with a similar name.
		I wanted to make sure.
		I have not listed this on anything yet, so I'm giving it to you now, the correct one.
		It is Bent River Brewing Company.
		Rock Island, Illinois.
		They were afraid of backlash from the woke mobs because our can, I don't have it right side up, has the word conservative on it.
		And they bailed on us.
		So that's part of it.
		Our beer is shipping 30 days out.
		I mean, they put out to the media that as soon as they saw our ad, they disassociated with us.
		More or less, we're terrible people.
		They love everybody.
		But there are big, strong Christians that cared about trans ideology and pushed on kids in private conversation.
		And they lied!
		They said that they stopped working with us as soon as they saw our ad.
		I've got email communication with them after.
		So they're scumbags and they did it under their giant Christian name.
		They're not Christians.
		Which is not surprising.
		I understand.
		I'm making your point here with these individuals.
		I was zero bit shocked when it happened.
		Because that's what I come to expect from these kind of individuals.
		And fortunately we found other breweries.
		Now we've got a huge brewery in Florida as well.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We've made up for it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How many true believers do you think there really are on the left?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Like, oh, that's a good question.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, they're cognizant of their ideologies and their methods.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I think it's a very small percentage.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I think most of them are just going along and getting along.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that's true of Christians as well.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's people, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So when people live in an area that's mostly Christian, they say, oh, of course we are.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Then the moment the left calls, they say, sure, we're left now.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		The go-along, get-along people.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I mean, this is what people say when they point out that if you lived in Nazi Germany, you probably would not have been on the right side of that.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		These bastards would have turned them over in a freaking heartbeat.
		In a heartbeat.
		They can't even stand up to saying, yeah, in a heartbeat.
		They can't handle pressure from you got some nasty email comments or Facebook comments because someone wants to cut dicks off kids and you're making a beer for a guy that says, yeah, maybe we shouldn't do that.
		If you can't stand up to that, I don't I don't think you would have done too well with the whole Germany situation.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, amen.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there are too many Christians who are willing to sell out their faith and we don't need more scared Christians.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to get a lot of crap for this, but I've said this for years, is the evangelical community, there's a part of it that they're out there voting in the primaries and they're hardcore, but the general Christian community as a whole They preach something on Sunday, but they are the ones that cave.
		They're some of the absolute weakest individuals when it comes to this, and I'm probably going to get canceled for like the 48th time by saying this.
		But they continue to cave, and that's again kind of What this beer is about, what we're doing, it's encouraging people.
		We don't have to cave.
		And I think the whole Bud Light effect that you're talking about, conservatives are, for the first time, I feel like, you know, you're using Target as the example.
		For the first time, I feel like conservatives are like, wow, we have this power.
		Like, what's this new power?
		Let's try it out.
		This is interesting.
		Because I don't think they really believed they had it prior to Bud Light.
		I think that's what sold it to them.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think that's true.
		And there's another element I'll add here, which is that we got to remember that when it comes to Bud Light, Target as well, but more so Bud Light, there are easily accessible competitors.
		A person doesn't really have to make many significant changes in their life to just buy a different brand of beer.
		And so that's why conservatives have to realize that those in the movement who would consider themselves leaders, who are go-getters, have to start Businesses, so that there are competing brands with the big guys, so that when people do have to boycott these companies they have somewhere else to go.
		Because if Bud Light was the only beer brand available, I think things would have gone differently.
		Right?
		People had other options.
		It's good that we did.
		We need to start creating more options.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Matt, you think that, I think that greed, is greed a sin?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is greed a sin?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's one of the seven deadly sins.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But getting rich is not?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		No, getting rich is not necessarily a sin.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So you can be a rich Christian, even though they say you can't take your wealth with you?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		People that seek and grow familial wealth?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		No, you can do a lot of good things with money.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		A rich Christian surely has to live differently than a rich pagan, right?
		A rich Christian has to do more with their money to support the church, to support the poor, to help others.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Elon Musk has done a lot for this country with his wealth.
		Honestly, here's something I should truly thank Elon Musk.
		This beer company would not exist without Elon Musk.
		And I can say that confidently because we got roughly over 45 million views on my Twitter of that ad.
		That would have never been allowed to happen in the past under previous ownership.
		And it's also why we didn't get near those kind of views on Facebook or Instagram or anything.
		They got a lot of views, comparatively speaking, but nothing like it did on Twitter now that Elon is kind of taking the chains off.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It feels like the Christ is like blowing up through Elon, like it's bubbling in him, like that Christ energy, the anointed, like he's been, I don't know if he's been anointed by God, what that even means really, but like he's carrying the torch, like he's doing things that will make humanity better off through American ideals, and I don't know what better Christian thing you could do in the modern age.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's an interesting point.
		I think I wouldn't describe it that way theologically, however, I do believe the truth is a person, and that person is Jesus Christ, so when somebody is forwarding truth, they are doing something for God, in a sense, right?
		Like, they're on the right side.
		Maybe not in totality, but, you know, maybe not with everything they do, but in that particular... No, no one is with everything.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		My point isn't like anytime anyone does something good, they are now a professing Christian.
		It's just to say that if you're fighting for truth, then that is a service.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What you guys are saying, Tim, what you brought up earlier, I think there are so many people that identify as Christians that aren't, and so many people that identify as Jewish that aren't, just because they don't believe in God.
		If you don't believe, like truly believe it, because I don't know if you have to experience it to believe that it's there.
		Like, we'll say there's like 300 million Christians and probably like 0.00001% of them actually are Christian.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		There's 2.2 billion Christians worldwide.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And probably like 100,000 of them that are actually Christ-like.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but you gotta remember, I mean, you don't join the church for the other Christians, you join the church for Christ.
		Other Christians are gonna sin, they're gonna be vicious, they're gonna fail to live up to what they should live up to.
		But so will you, so will all of us, right?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's important to keep each other honest, like, without consuming ourselves, to be like, yo, yo, like, you can talk a lot of smack about what that guy's doing wrong, but if you're not living that lifestyle of Christ... This is where the love gets right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wielding power, you win.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The conservatives, the right, don't.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's what I think.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I feel like the Romans, when they set up Catholicism, they made it so that it kept... The Romans did not set up Catholicism.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		That's not, yeah, that's not how it goes.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You don't think so?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It wasn't the Council of Nicaea, 70 years after Christ's death, they...
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		So the Council of Nicaea was a bit after that, and this was not set up... Like, yes, there was Roman involvement, but this is not something the Romans ran.
		This was the early Christians basically making a number of statements about their beliefs because, like, at the time of Christ, there were just a lot of grifters who were coming in and making up things that had nothing to do with Christ's teaching.
		So then the church had to sort this out and go, like, okay, what is the actual official canon going to be?
		What's going to be in the Bible?
		Like, how are we going to declare our faith?
		That type of thing.
		But it was not the Romans who set it up.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What concerns me is the authority of the time that was setting it up made it seem that, like, weakness is key.
		Like, in order to be a Christian, you have to be weak.
		You have to be subservient to the authority.
		And, like, no, man, power does control the world.
		That's what you're saying, Tim.
		Like, the left has understood this.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Christianity. Well, because the so Christians have been persecuted for a
		good while before the Council of Nicaea, right? Because this is in the 300s.
		Yeah, this is in the 300s. So this is not like it is after Christ's death.
unidentified		There are multiple councils. Well, no, the one that's... We'll have an educational
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		village to put on a different show. Yeah, I guess my point is just that the Romans
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		did not set up Catholicism. But continue with the point that you were making overall.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That power controls everything.
		The left is unafraid, and their ethos, their moral framework is there is no truth but power.
		And the right is like, let's all just be good stewards of our community.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because Jesus was like, alright, if you want to kill me, go ahead.
		And then they killed him, and it's like, no, that's not what you're supposed to do to survive an inaccurate summarization.
		Well, he was like, they came and got him, and he just was like, no, don't stop them, let them take me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How about you stop shifting the conversation into arguments about religion?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm telling you why power is what controls... But you keep shifting it into a way that you know is going to intentionally insult Christians.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		But I think the reason why the right doesn't understand the value of power is because Christianity has been sold to us as if being a serf... Okay, is wrong?
		No, no, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What you're saying is not correct.
		Both Seamus and Serge both said, like, hey, this is not correct.
		And so I said, let's have an educational conversation on religion somewhere else and get back to the conversation about the moral framework of the left.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Let's move on from talking about- Yeah, Mao figured it out.
		Power is what controls society.
		Out of the barrel of a gun, I think Mao said.
		And unless these religious folks start to understand that, I'm afraid that they will always be coming in second.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that truth is more important than power, and that's the message here.
		Truth is far more important than power.
		It's better to have the truth on your side than to have power on your side.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But who controls the truth is who owns the media.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		No, there's a reason we call them liars.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Instead of saying, well, the media said it, so it's true.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but if you don't know they're lying, then you think it's truth, and you define it as truth.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		You can think something is true, but be wrong about that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is the point with the left.
		The true believers don't care if they're correct.
		They say 2 plus 2 equals 5.
		They've entertained that prospect because when you come out and agree with them, they know they own you.
		It's the Star Trek.
		How many lights are there?
		You're mistaken.
		There are five lights, right?
		They come to you and say, what's two plus two?
		You say four.
		They say, no, you're wrong.
		It's five.
		Now say it again.
		What's two plus two?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		They want to force you to say the lie.
		I've been saying this for years.
		They want to force you to say the lie.
		I refuse to say the lie, regardless of the topic, whether it's how many genders, whatever it is.
		Just say it, Seth.
		Just agree.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And people who would rather die than go along with the lie are the biggest threat to the establishment possible, which is why they end up being executed in tyrannical regimes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to the story, this is a big one.
		From TMZ, Target Pride Controversy, Bomb Threat from Angry LGBTQ Ally Deemed a Hoax.
		So, this involves us, and it happened on Friday, I get a text message asking me if it was true, and sure enough, there's an email.
		The email says that Target is full of swear word cowards who turned their back on the LGBT community and decided to cater to the homophobic right-wing redneck bigots, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
		Then says they're gonna target a bunch of locations.
		The email is listed as being sent to members at TimCast.com.
		We never received this email.
		Cleveland 19 News published it.
		We never received that email.
		So I don't know where they got it from.
		I wonder if someone sent them a screenshot and they, like morons, just publish it.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		This is what I wanted to ask you about because you were talking about this over the weekend and you said that you got a similar email but not the same one.
		So I'm curious, why would they make something similar and not show the actual one?
		How could they have gotten access to it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No idea.
		They could have spoofed our email, sent an email to Cleveland19 but spoofed it so that it appeared like it was sent to us and not them, but they receive it.
		But that just goes to show how stupid these people are by publishing an email that wasn't sent to them, but was sent to a different address.
		Yeah.
		Unless the email was sent to the most fake or Cleveland 19 actually staged the hoax themselves.
unidentified		My guess is that somebody made a... I mean, hey, that's big news.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Then it forces us, one of the biggest shows on live streaming on YouTube, to talk about it.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Well, the great thing is, if you're a liberal and something supports your perspective, you can say, oh, hey, here's a screenshot of an email, I promise it's really, really true, and send it to the media and they'll publish it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's nuts.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		It's wild.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Assume it's fake before you do anything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, this is the article from Cleveland 19 News.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They say, Cleveland 19 News receives bomb threat against five targets as store faces LGBTQ controversy, but for some reason they published an email that supposedly was sent to us, which we never received.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So what, like, just photoshopped?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Someone photoshopped on the email address?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to know what made this news organization think it was good journalism to publish an email that wasn't sent to them without confirming with us if we received it when we didn't.
unidentified		That's a very fair point.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They were just like, hey, someone claims Tim Poole's company received this email.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Run it in full!
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Wait, so, do you know who reached out to them?
		What did they claim?
		Like, a source from Two Pools?
		They just published it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No one from here communicated with them, and we did not receive that email.
		I got a text from someone else saying, is this email real?
		I saw it and I said, what that?
		What is this?
		We immediately checked.
		This email does not exist.
		We've never gotten it.
		No idea what this is.
		So what happens?
		Did someone email?
		Like, how is it that Cleveland 19 received an email?
		And by the way, I know we're getting into the weeds, but several stores were evacuated over this.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so this was part of that evacuation?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They immediately called the police for several evacuations.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, do we have a lawsuit against them for publishing this?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		You know what happens in the future now?
		The person that's just the kind of read the news a little bit every now and then on a few websites sees this and says, oh that Timcast, oh that fringe group of people that was encouraging this awful, you know, bomb scare at a Target.
		And that's what's forever in their head.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think if they don't retract it... No, it looks like we're the ones who reported it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It looks like we received it and alerted the news and law enforcement.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Well, I guess, yeah, you'd have to make a lot of assumptions to get there, I guess, with them putting that out there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The only assumption you can make here is that we received this and forwarded it to the press and law enforcement, or to law enforcement who gave it to the press, or something like that.
		The email came from, it alleged, the image says to members at TimCast.com, we never got this, the email does not exist.
		I don't know what this is or how they got it.
		So it looks fake, and they ran it.
		The assumption from any regular person is going to be that we are the ones who received it first and passed it on.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		That is very strange.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's very strange.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Very, very weird.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is this from the perspective of the person who received the email or from the person that sent it, looking at a draft?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Received.
		It's a complete email that says, from and to.
		So I'm curious, why didn't this company reach out to us?
		I mean, maybe, I don't know, maybe they tried and nobody answered them, it was Memorial Day weekend, maybe that was the point.
		Why would they run this story without confirming with us first how they received an email that was sent to us but went to them instead?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Unless someone sent them a picture of an email saying, hey, look at this thing.
		What on us?
		That email doesn't exist.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, it's hard to even figure out what their angle would be for doing something like this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know. It's weird. At first I tweeted that I thought it was a hoax intended to smear the left
		and the purpose of putting our name on it was to force us to talk about it on the show,
		which they've successfully done. Now I think honestly it's a possibility, but the simple
		solution is just the left uses violence and threats to gain political power.
		By maximizing PR reach, they make sure everybody knows they will come after them.
		That's it.
		Interesting.
		There's no reason to smear the left by faking something like this with a false flag, because the left literally goes out and firebombs buildings.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		So to be clear, you're saying you do think that this is a hoax?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		This particular story?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying that I believe the email was actually sent by a leftist.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Intending to threaten these establishments.
		Not that they actually... It's a bomb threat hoax because they didn't plant any bombs.
		But the real purpose was psychological terror from someone who was likely on the left trying to threaten people and say these are the things that they do.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Has Target issued any kind of statement about this?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not that I'm aware.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know that it was being claimed, I mentioned earlier, that people who are boycotting Target are extremists, and haven't heard too much from the left about this.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What a mess this email is.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Any reporter that had done even a moment of thinking, I would think, would be like, this email was written to someone at a Target, because it's talking about your targets, doing this to your targets, except the two email addresses.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We are sending you a message!
		See, that's the other thing about it.
		It was sent to members, allegedly sent to members at TimGuess.com saying they were sending us a message threatening us.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And then look below the addresses.
		We will continue to, the email says, your targets.
		What are they talking about?
		Like they're sending it to a target administrator.
		If they're saying your targets, they're talking about, but it's the email address is not a target email address.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		So pretty much some leftist drank too much Bud Light one night, wrote this email.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Sent it off and it got reported as real.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, it's more sophisticated than that.
		Because they would have had to have spoofed our email and then dropped the email.
		So they would have had to have used some kind of spoofing so that it went to Cleveland 19 but used our email address instead.
		Which is not a simple feat.
		It's not the most complicated feat, but the average person's not going to be able to do it.
		You're not some random leftist slamming a Bud Light and then doing this.
		You're some hacker or someone with a general knowledge on how to spoof email addresses.
		Or BCC, because I think the BCC, the blind carbon copy... We did not receive the email, meaning it never went to us, which means it was a spoof.
		Unless Cleveland 19 themselves made the fake email, intentionally to get news for themselves.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Also, we just have a strange shot here, right?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's extremely easy to just inspect Element in your browser, type in a fake email address under from, so they wouldn't even have to be able to spoof an email address, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if somebody who worked at Cleveland 19 fabricated the email.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It kind of looks like it.
unidentified		The quality is really low.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is what they published.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The quality is super low.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		You can see the little outlines inside those.
		That's what Shamus is saying.
		It can be done very easily.
		Just within the browser.
		Just inspect.
		Edit the text.
		It looks so bad.
		You can just tell.
		Yeah, I don't know.
		Seems fake.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		I mean, I have no idea who faked it or why.
		Like I said, it's a very strange thing.
unidentified		I'm trying to figure out the motivation, but... I mean, I think Tim's right.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		I think they're just trying to make it seem that, like, we will come after you.
		We will make this a thing.
		Again, like literally Tim was saying a second ago, might is right to them.
		They believe that the power is everything.
		So having the power to then Show we will use this power is everything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Also, sowing confusion, man.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The value of confusion.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Here's the other thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I tweeted that this email's not real on, I think, the 27th, and they've not done anything.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Like, CBS 19?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Cleveland?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Who's the name of this?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and other people were like, sharing the link, being like, yo, Tim Pool's like, they don't have this email, it's not a real email, and they don't care.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's why I'm like, I think maybe they did it.
unidentified		Right.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Hmm.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		As credence.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or maybe there's a leftist who works there, who fabricated the email, put our name on it to generate a bunch of attention, knowing that it'll spark controversy.
unidentified		Yeah.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Could be a two.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
		I don't know, man.
		But they ended up evacuating a bunch of different Target shops over it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		All those Ohio stores that they were listed on there?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, these are Utah.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Which is very far away, which is really odd.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's very weird.
		Yeah, how far away is that Ohio place?
		That's like, we're a couple hours away.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Ohio's about a five and a half hour drive from here.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Those locations.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, those locations.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the Kent, that's like where I went to college is Kent State.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		That's pretty far away.
		Utah is even further.
		It's like at least a 22 hour drive.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So the emails that we got were different.
		Kind of like the idea was similar, and it listed the name of other prominent culture war individuals.
		And so I'm like, like the email thread was sent to various people and I'm like, okay, this is weird.
		But I think it's it's a spoof.
		It's not real.
		There's some degree of sophistication.
		The question is, who did it?
		Was it a leftist actually targeting these stores?
		That's what Occam's Razor suggests.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Was it AI?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		But then here's the question, right?
		Because you mentioned you did get an email that was similar but not the same as this one, so how could the news network have spoofed it if they had no idea that you got a similar email?
		That's what's weird about it to me, is you did get a similar email.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're the ones who did it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they're the ones who sent you the initial email, but then why not just show the actual email?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Muddling.
		They're muddling.
		People have muddled the conversation.
		Rather than building another beer brand, we're talking about what confused us yesterday.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Fair point, dude.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's a war tactic.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You want people turning in circles.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Someone in chat said Jesse Smollett did it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		All right, well, let's just hard shift into World War III now, and we'll talk about this.
		We have this story from NBC News.
		This is kind of crazy.
		Drone strikes hit Moscow and first attack on Russian capital's residential areas since Ukraine war began.
		Once again, no one knows exactly who's responsible.
		Russia, of course, says it's the Kiev regime attacking civilian targets, while the West says that it's a Russian false flag intended to bolster public support for war in Russia.
		Here's why I think that's less likely.
		The attack was on a wealthy area of Moscow.
		If you attack poor people, you generate support for war.
		If you attack rich people, the rich people in the establishment elite say, like, hey, stop this.
		Our wealth is being destroyed because of it.
		It's also possible the idea is to attack the rich people because the rich people will then be like, we want war now!
		But the rich...
		People were always part of the regime, the political establishment in Russia, so they're typically in line already.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's a good point.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if the elite are going to pull off some kind of false flag, it would make much more sense for them to go after people who are lower status and don't have as much power to fight back against them.
unidentified		World War III?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I think that what our entire media needs to do is speak about this as aggressively as possible without considering the consequences.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm being facetious, because that's what they've been doing, right?
		We were talking about this earlier, when Lindsey Graham, like a year and a half ago, got on the BBC and literally called for Putin's assassination.
		I mean, people will come after figures in new media for saying something slightly offensive and say, well, these content creators just aren't responsible enough.
		An American politician was on television calling for the assassination of the leader of a nation which is armed with nuclear weapons and that was just allowed to happen.
		Yeah, I think it's a- I mean we've- the media and political classes rhetoric surrounding this has been insanely irresponsible.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, thank you.
		Responsible.
		It's important to be responsible even right now us talking about this because there's a lot of people listening and this is like sensitive.
		You know, I don't think it's a false flag.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Then a dozen or so drones attacked civilians.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Drone warfare.
		21st century warfare.
		We see the tip of the spear right now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Attacked civilians.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it makes sense that Kiev did this more so than Russia false flagged it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Or some could have even been so independent.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If Russia was going to do it, right, trying to fan the flames of war between all factions.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I feel like if Russia was going to do a false flag, they wouldn't target their elites and it would be more sophisticated than a few drones that failed to do any real damage.
		Yeah.
		The real issue, I think, is that Kiev wants to send terror to the civilians and destabilize public opinion.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Definitely.
		I think that's what it is.
		It's also, like, kind of a tit-for-tat thing, because they've been shelling different parts of, like, Ukraine as well, including, like, attacking Kiev.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think it's tit-for-tat.
		I think it's more so you want to force the enemy to retreat, to start... you put them on defense instead of offense.
		Right.
		But if this is legitimate attack, Or whether or not, even if it's not, I think we're now moving very seriously close towards a nuclear war.
		Because Vladimir Putin said he would use nukes if there was an existential threat to Russia.
		And now Russian civilians are being attacked.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And the United States has done nothing to promote diplomacy.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		He's not going to lose that war.
		He has nukes.
		And he's not the kind of guy that's like, well, I would win, but I just don't want to use my nukes.
		That's not how it works.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Dude, when the USSR fell, what the United States promised is that we would not expand NATO an inch eastward.
		And all we have done is expand NATO eastward.
		That entire time.
		And I'm not saying what Putin has done is by any means good, but what I am saying is our failure to behave diplomatically on the global stage Bears some responsibility for what's happening here, right?
		You can't just put this all on crazy, bad Russian man.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Dude.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		The United States had a duty to behave responsibly on the foreign stage, and we consistently have not.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		I remember watching, like, maybe, like, almost 10 years ago, um, I think we might have been, like, a Vice piece.
		I don't remember what it was, but I was watching years and years ago, It was Putin speaking, saying, like, the West's aggressing.
		The West has all these new positions outside of Russia now, and that's only born to be true now that he's actually in the situation, that we are in the situation.
		It's just... Yeah, it's so weird.
		It's so weird that we are finally here years and years since then, so... Do you think this is, like, a holdover of fear of, like, the Soviet Union?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Like, I'm not blaming Hillary, like, whoever, but, like, people from that generation are, like, they're actually afraid of the Soviet Union communism?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In Ukraine, many people are.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that with this, I mean, Russia has, in the 20th century, faced, what, two up to this point, three serious existential crises, and the United States and Germany has been involved with all of them, and so NATO, which is basically the United States and Germany, starts inching closer and closer towards Russia's borders I mean, there was no sensitivity on our part in saying, okay, even if our intentions are good, let's pretend that they were and we can guarantee that our intentions were good.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Maybe we need to be very careful and sensitive about how we go about this so that a hot war between Russia and Ukraine doesn't begin.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But...
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		No.
		We did what we did.
		We mercilessly ridiculed and insulted Russia throughout the entirety of Trump's presidency because the media wanted to scapegoat somebody for Trump's election and they couldn't just directly hate on the American people because that would be bad for their optics.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think, if anything, that might have been born of people who were born in the era of the Cold War.
		They wanted to blame Russia.
		Russia seemed as if they were still the Soviet Union, when in reality it's far from the case, you know?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, remember back in 2012 when Mitt Romney, of course it was Mitt Romney, He said that Russia was going to be one of the primary existential threats to the United States in coming years, and everyone laughed at him, and now everyone's agreeing with him.
		We should have kept laughing at him.
		And I know people are saying, how could you argue that when Russia's in a hot war with Ukraine right now?
		Part of the reason Russia is in a hot war with Ukraine right now is because the United States has been reckless.
		There's this idea of speaking softly and carrying a big stick.
		What the United States has done is we have spoken very loudly about a lot of these things.
		We've spoken very inappropriately about them.
		What was interesting about Donald Trump is even though to some extent he kept the peace, didn't start any new wars, Putin didn't invade while Trump was president.
		He waited until there was a man with dementia in the Oval Office before he decided to invade.
		When Trump was in office, there was a good argument that he made that in some sense he was He was very heavy-handed with Putin in terms of the threats he made to him, at least according to what Trump has said.
		What happened was Trump knew that in order to Guarantee the peace, even though diplomacy was necessary, there were moments where harshness was also necessary.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		The big red button had to work.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And there is something about that, and there is something about the fact that Biden and the left, they either have no idea where those lines are, or they just don't care.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And I suspect it's the latter.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think so.
		Trump had the big stick, but he spoke loudly, but he had the big stick.
		Biden speaks loudly, but he's got a wet noodle.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think there's truth in that, but I also think, like, it depends on how we're defining speaking loudly, because even though Trump, look, he had a lot of nerve.
		He walked right into North Korea to meet with Kim Jong-un.
		This is a guy who, while he was being even somewhat brash and abrasive, was still pursuing peace.
		Like, even when he was loud, he was still pursuing peace.
		He wanted to find a diplomatic solution to these problems.
		He wasn't interested in just going around and bullying other countries.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Speaking of peace, do you remember the Kendall, I think it's Kendall Jenner ad, the Pepsi ad?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yes, she fixed the BLM riot.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Pepsi can, goes over to the rioters, everyone's happy.
		I think all this Russia talk, what we really need is we need Donald Trump, Zelensky, and Putin.
		And Trump needs to deliver an ultraright can.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Is that your next commercial?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		I think so.
		I think we just developed that on air.
		Trump delivered the ultraright beer can, and there will be peace.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Have you noticed that it's really hard to find people to work?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I have.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I think this is the result of... So people have said that a lot of people retired.
		So we have the racetrack over here, Charlestown Races, and they used to have a restaurant.
		We asked them, how come there's no restaurant at the horse track anymore?
		They say, we can't find anybody to work.
		Everybody retired.
		They say, we can't open any more poker tables.
		We got no dealers.
		Where'd the dealers go?
		They retired.
		Where are the people who are working?
		They say nobody's working anymore.
		The younger generation won't work.
unidentified		100%.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Imagine what it's going to be like in this country in 20 years.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be bad.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		My kids are going to rule the roost because they will work.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A bunch of leftists who won't work are going to show up with pitchforks and steal all their stuff.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Usually, you end up conscripting people.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		If you have a society of uneducated or unemployed, what just leads you to desperation, which means you conscript them into the military to do some crazy, aggressive, conquering war to get the resources that you weren't producing.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		These kids today are not doing any conquering of anything, to be clear.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		The ones that are not working.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And it depends, right?
		Because when there's a shortage of people, You can't afford war in quite the same way you look at what's happening in China.
		I think that's far more concerning They had a policy of aborting young baby girls and also engaging in open infanticide and so now the men Have a lopsided ratio.
		There are more men there by women, by a non-insignificant margin.
		So what do we have?
		We have a bunch of young men who there are no women for.
		What do we do with them?
		You know, the United States talks a lot, and our politicians talk a lot about the quote-unquote, like, incel problem.
		They have an entire population of people for whom there literally are no women available.
		And everyone knows that unmarried young men, as a demographic, are dangerous.
		So, maybe you cook up a war to go send them to fight in, to cull that herd.
		Maybe you tell them if you invade this other country, you can have the women there.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's so wild to think.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm serious.
		I'm serious.
		Don't think that that's not irrational.
		That's what human beings... I mean, history did not end despite what the Marxist or neoconservatives would have you believe.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think people think it's impossible.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		This is dumb.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		These young people that are not working are not going to go fight wars.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I'm not talking about here.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I'm talking about China.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Any of those places.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		That's not happening.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't know, man.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I think China is a serious threat.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Okay, we can talk about the China thing.
		It's an economic threat and they're winning that threat.
		That's a whole other thing.
		China doesn't want to attack us because we're their cash register.
		So that's a whole other scenario.
		But I think the problem, back to the young people that don't work, There's a lot of problems there, but... And that's also in China, too.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Like, they have tongping in China, which is just lying flat, which is meaning, like, you just... People just don't work.
		They just don't... They literally don't work.
		They just stay home.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		There's also a massive problem of not only people not working, but again, so I was talking about China's demographic.
		In fact, they have a large male population, which is a frightening thing.
		But also, the fact that here, the massive problem we're facing, and I think one that most developed nations are going to be facing between the next 20 and 40 years, is exactly this.
		We didn't populate adequate enough numbers for there to be a legitimate and well-functioning workforce and economy in the future.
		I mean, my goodness, what is it, Social Security right now?
		It's something like four people working for every one retiree?
		I think the ratio is even worse than that at this point.
		It's not just Social Security, but my point is that's indicative of a much broader problem.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's not just lack of reproduction, which is a big factor though, it's that Gen Z and Millennials typically don't work.
		They don't want to have jobs.
		Look man, we've been trying to build this new facility for so long and it's insane how hard it is to find people to do any amount of work.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		And by the way, these incels and all these guys that aren't getting girls and all this kind of bullshit that we hear about all the time is, if these guys like got off their ass and maybe went to the gym and stopped eating crap all the time and actually looked, there's tons of women out there that would love a decent presenting guy that's not a total dumbass sitting around playing video games all the time.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		So that is a very solvable problem, but it is for a lack of trying and many other things you could get into.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And knowing.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		A lot of people don't realize the value of being healthy when it comes to selecting the right diet.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		I agree with that because I've been lied to by the government for decades now about health.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		People think that if they can laugh and joke their way to getting a mate, it's just not.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You gotta be, I mean, you might be able to if you're the funniest guy on earth, but like, if you're not physically fit, man, good luck.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You gotta take care of your body.
		Present.
		You gotta be a protector.
		And you need to have good, good genes.
		And those genes can deteriorate over time if you feed them crap.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Very quickly.
unidentified		Yeah, true.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's time to have kids.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You got kids.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		I do.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		I have two great kids.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You are the conservative dad.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		That is true.
		TM.
		We're trademarking it.
		But yeah, I do have two great kids.
		And they will work when they're older.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		If I have kids now, they're going to be the age of my friend's grandkids.
		Because friends that I went to high school with and stuff, they all have kids.
		One of his kids is 22.
		My kids will be his grandson's age.
		It's so wild.
		Yeah, that's right.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, no.
		I mean, just to kind of jump onto this point, it's a both-and, right?
		It's a massive issue because you're correct that a lot of young people don't want to work.
		That's also compounded by the fact that there are just fewer young people.
		I mean, we're not making replacement.
unidentified		Things are really going to fall apart in ways... But the young people we have are still not working.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That makes it worse!
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		I understand, but we've got a smaller pool.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		But we have a problem with the young people we have.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		So we're getting rid of all the jobs young people typically work, like fast food restaurants.
		We're now using robots.
		You see those robots that make the cheeseburgers?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now you're gone.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		McDonald's is a vending machine at this point.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		You strike, you're gone.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's the issue, though.
		We need plumbers.
		We need carpenters.
		We need specialists.
unidentified		Mechanics.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Mechanics?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's huge.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
		I need somebody who knows how to do concrete.
		Can we find him?
		Nope.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're going on two years trying to build this building and get everything set up.
		A job that normally would be done in like six weeks.
		And we were going through different crews.
		It's insane.
		And of course everybody says the same thing like, oh we will do it.
		And then they show up and say we can't find anybody.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, man.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I remember when that pipeline was hacked about two years ago, and nobody there knew how to work the manual system, because all the people who could use it retired out.
unidentified		Wow!
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's just the entire economy right now.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think unemployment has something to do with it, because right now you're incentivized to not work.
		If you're collecting unemployment, you're getting a thousand bucks a week, or every two weeks, or whatever it is.
		If you get a job, you lose that thousand bucks every two weeks.
		So if you're going to make $900 every two weeks at your job, you're actually making less working 40 hours, 80 hours than you are sitting on your ass.
		That needs to be inverted.
		You need to, firstly, this is why I like UBI, because you don't lose it when you get a job.
		You shouldn't lose your unemployment when you get a job.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		We just took a wild turn.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Did you say UBI?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's part of what I like about UBI in regard, like, as a swap out for unemployment, because you don't lose your UBI when you get a job.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		In fact, maybe you shouldn't get unemployment unless you have a job.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		UBI would just instantly destroy the system overnight.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's not effective on its face.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		You need to make the Joe Rogan transition on the UBI thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he's against it now?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Yes, he was originally for it.
		He said that COVID, watching the COVID handouts, completely changed his opinion.
		I was telling him!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The UBI stuff won't work!
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, 100%.
		He was serious.
		Went into a whole thing about it.
		He was like, the COVID, after seeing how the handouts and how people responded to that, he realized it will not work.
		People will not work if you give them money to sit at home.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		The UBI is completely insane.
		Well, but there is this bizarre sort of Rousseauian appeal to man's better nature that even if he's getting money to do nothing, he's still going to go do something.
		It's like, okay, well maybe he does do something and it's stupid and we don't need it and it doesn't benefit anybody.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's what I say to my friends.
		Here, I'll ask you, Seth.
		How many people do you know play guitar?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Play guitar?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Maybe a handful at most.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You only know a handful?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I probably know a lot that I don't even realize they play guitar.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, also, uh, Chambers, you know a lot of people who play guitar?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I know a couple people who play guitar, probably.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How many people, out of them, do you think they would want to make a living playing guitar?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Hm.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		I know one that tried very hard.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Are they good enough to make a living playing guitar?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Um, he did okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		See, I always ask this to my lefty friends.
		How many people you know play the guitar?
		And they'll go, I don't know, a bunch.
		And I'll be like, do they want to make a living doing it?
		And they're like, well yeah, they want to be rock stars.
		Are they good enough?
		And they go, no.
		And I'm like, so if you gave them UBI, guess what they would do instead of working?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They would just go and play the guitar.
unidentified		And they're not very good at it.
unidentified		100%.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		That sums up everything.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Maybe you could do unemployment that doesn't, you don't lose it when you get a job.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what they have right now with all this COVID stuff that they still could go work jobs and still be getting the COVID money.
		They could have more or less double dipped.
		And a lot of them just refuse to go work.
		Yeah, definitely.
		They could be doing it now.
		I think Malice, Michael Malice, did someone on the show about all of this.
		It was pretty interesting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I may have the wrong person.
		This is the issue.
		Work does not exist.
		Work is not a thing.
		The idea of work is nonsense and we need to stop saying it.
		When I wake up and I quote-unquote work, I'm not at work.
		Like, I come in here, I read the news, and then I get feelings I want to talk about.
		I read the things and I want to do it.
		I do the stuff that I want to do.
		These people don't want to do anything.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		At all.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So to them, anything they don't want to do is work.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The problem is, they are blank slates.
		It used to be that when you were a kid, you'd watch your parents do their thing, you'd learn from them.
		You know, we were driving in the car recently with some friends and uh...
		Someone mentioned they used to have a dream where they wake up at school, you know, they're like, I have a dream where I'm in school naked or something.
		And then we always hear people say, like, I have these weird dreams where it's like, I forgot to turn in a test, but I'm like, I'm like 35, man.
		Like what?
		I'm not in school anymore.
		And I said, it's because human beings are not supposed to spend half their life in an institutionalized learning facility, and then overnight switch to something totally different.
		So what happens is, all of your developmental years are in this machine, so now, 20 years later, you have a nightmare about forgetting a test because your body and mind have been trained and conditioned to do that.
		If we grew up on farms, you'd be 15, you'd have a nightmare, you forgot to get the eggs from the chicken coop.
		Then when you're 35, you wake up and go, I forgot the eggs.
		Oh, I didn't forget the eggs.
		It wouldn't be out of place because your life stays the same.
		The issue now is, I said this 20 years ago to a friend of mine.
		She told me she didn't know what she wanted to do with her life.
		She was like 20 something.
		She was close to finishing college.
		And I was like, what were you doing when you were 13?
		And she was like, hanging out with my friends.
		I don't know, riding bikes.
		And I said, you want to open a bar?
		And she went, oh my God, that would be amazing.
		And I'm like, yeah.
		When you were a kid, your whole day was hanging out with your friends, shooting the shit, talking about stuff.
		You want to open a bar.
		Because then you can hang out all day, hang out with your friends, shooting the shit.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The kids who grew up to be pro baseball players, they were playing baseball when they were five years old.
unidentified		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're 13 years old, they're playing baseball.
		They're 40 years old, they're playing baseball.
		It's not work.
		Now here's the thing.
		I still say I have to work, because I have a schedule and because I have responsibilities.
		But doing this, all the stuff we do, it's not like, ugh, sorry guys, I've got an 8-11.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Well for sure, you've got to channel it into work.
		Your work needs to be, if you want to do it well and be successful at it, it needs to be something that you love.
		That doesn't mean you're not going to have mundane aspects of it, and that we all understand.
		But overall, in general, you've got to feel like what you're doing is accomplishing something, whether it's fixing someone's car and you want to see someone roll out with a working vehicle, or you want to see someone walking home with food that magically ends up in the grocery store, those kinds of things.
		You've got to have some incentive behind it, and you've got to have some actual motivation and love for what you're doing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think the issue is...
		We institutionalized all of our children.
		We took away child labor.
		Child labor is a very, very good thing.
		We just don't want kids in factories and in coal mines.
		We want them at coffee shops and paper routes.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Children doing work is a good thing.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		And beer factories.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
unidentified		None of those things.
unidentified		None of that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But a paper route was work.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Working at the family grocery store was work.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Working on the farm was work.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Walking the dog.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Walking the dogs.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		My six-year-old legit asked me, I guess it was last week or the week before, he said, Dad, I want to do a lemonade stand this summer.
		And if you know me, you kind of know I love hearing my six-year-old say that.
		I'm also thinking, where the hell are we going to do a lemonade stand?
		I was like, where are we going to do this?
		Well, he names, oh, downtown.
		It's an area near where we live.
		Well, I was like, well, that's pretty good.
		There's a lot of people there.
		And he said, yeah, I'm going to sell lemonade and ultra-ripe beer.
		I was like, we might have some legal issues on this.
		She's a distributor, man.
unidentified		I like your ambition, son.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's ready.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So did he fire up the lemonade stand or is that coming up?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Well, this was like a week or two ago, so they just got out of school last week.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Awesome, awesome.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		We'll figure out something.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Good deals?
		Set up a good deal?
		Maybe cheap refills?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I could see that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why don't you launch a lemonade company and you can have your kid run it?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		I like the idea.
		My kids do work for me and I pay them when they work for me.
		I am a bit busy with beer for a lemonade company.
		But you have your kid do it?
		There's a lot to sourcing this much product of anything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Shipping liquid.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how you pull that off.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		A lot.
		Just getting cans right now, aluminum cans that are not made by the devil, I mean, Andrew Bush, is difficult.
		And finding people to work to put sleeves on the cans, by the way.
		This is a perfect example.
		The company that put the sleeves on our can, one of the biggest issues we had, we got all the sleeves printed, everything ready to go.
		I don't have staff to do it.
		I don't have staff to do it.
		And that's something we ran into.
		And we've kind of run into that same issue along the way at a lot of places throughout this.
		But yeah, it's a lot of work, a lot of money.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We got coffee, and we want to do cold brew, because I love cold brew, that's my jam, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so we've reached out to our suppliers, our distributors, our companies, and it would cost us, we would have to sell the can of cold brew per can, $5 per cold brew.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What kind of overhead is that?
unidentified		That basically makes us maybe like, no profit.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		What are you being told is the major cost in that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Shipping liquid.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, but okay, but is that because, no, you should talk to me about this.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Is it, so they're saying that $5 per can, like, cause the coffee itself, like, you know, you got very minimal ingredients there, obviously.
unidentified		So all this, how bulk are you looking at?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, so we're not going to be putting in millions of dollars to order big warehouses full.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		You wouldn't have to, but like if you did a tractor-trailer loads where you really get your main discount when it comes to like aluminum cans.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So we're all online and we want to do online sales and we did all of the sourcing and everything and it would come out to like breaking even at five bucks a can.
		So it's just we're avoiding it for now.
		We'll talk about it later.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think you actually can find out that you could do this cheaper.
		Dealing with coffee, you have so many more options than we are with alcohol.
		So UPS is, some will ship with insert, more or less, you can over, if I summed it up, you can say UPS is really the only one that will ship alcohol.
		But you can ship your coffee with USPS, as much as they suck a lot of the times, but nonetheless, you can ship your coffee with that so you can have a lot cheaper options of getting your coffee.
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seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		on the front page of TimCast.com.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		He loves shutting pipelines down, Tim. This is not the right time.
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		All right, Koldilocks Production says, Hey Tim, heads up, but Nebraska recently passed school choice and a pro-life
		bill.
		The state keeps getting more red.
		Very interesting.
		Grofty, of course, has buck buck.
		Very nice.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Grofty.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Waffle Sensei says, Tim, can we talk about Dylan Mulvaney coming out as straight?
		That was an old video.
		And Dylan Mulvaney was saying that trans women are women, not that Dylan Mulvaney's attracted to females.
		Oh, okay.
		Yeah, that's why he said, no, she will get me pregnant, because he's... I see.
		First of all, it's a Borat-like bit, because he can't get pregnant, but he was saying that he's talking about trans women.
		And so I went to my dad and said, I'm attracted to women, and my dad said, wow, and then I said, haha, I'm talking about trans women, Bob!
		And that's the gag.
		All right, Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
		says, Tim, it's unofficially official, my dude.
		The Bud Light effect is now in the Urban Dictionary for all to reference.
		Companies need to fear the Bud Light effect.
		Well, all right, all right.
		GD says, hashtag, believe all women.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oof.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We didn't get to that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We'll talk about that, I suppose, in the members only, the Tara Reid fleeing to Russia.
unidentified		Excellent.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Gets a little adult.
		Brandon Smith says, got my Appalachian Nights order today.
		Excited to try it, by the way.
		Southern West Virginia, better than the panhandle.
		We were hanging out in Charleston.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What a great weekend that was.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that was amazing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We went to, um... We drove like an hour and a half into the mountains to get ice cream.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And you guys walked up a hill, like, I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We climbed a mountain.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		A thousand feet up the mountain?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know about a thousand.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Five hundred feet up the mountain?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe five hundred feet.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You were becoming tiny specks in the distance as I was actually kind of scared was super steep and it just rained and we're really dumb so we got out of our cars in the middle of nowhere in a mountain where like the only people were on ATVs and Motorbike like dirt bikes and then we climbed up this super steep Like it's very steep.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Is it rock?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It was like dirt and gravel and that green mesh.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		So in Georgia we have a place called Stone Mountain.
		It's the world's largest single piece of granite that you could climb.
		It's like an actual mountain.
		And every year, a few people do what you just did and they hoe cheese right down.
		Does not work out well.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was just mud and grass.
		For the most part.
		And so, like, sliding down a little bit was fun.
		The only thing bad about it was that it had just rained.
		It had rained, like, several hours earlier, so it was wet.
		But, uh, you know, it wasn't... we weren't mountain climbing.
		We weren't, like, clinging to rocks.
		We were walking up a hill.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's why it's so mad.
		They close it when it rains for that reason.
		Just saying.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, people slipping in the grass or something?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		They slip and then...
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Of the edge.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But there's no edge.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you don't have an- okay, I see.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, it was a big hill.
unidentified		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so we just went out, walked up, and walked down.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, you get to the top, and you're just- it's flat.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But it was cool, though.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We, you know, climbed up that for no reason.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		More like hills.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Noah Sanders says, Tim, I'd love to open a cast brew franchise that doubles as a comedy club at night.
		Do you think there's any way to secure a liquor license with the franchise?
		We can sell Seth's beer during stand-up.
		Love it.
		I mean, let's do it.
		Let's figure out how to do it.
		We're still working on the first location, and it's taking forever.
		It's insane how long it takes to do anything.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is there any process for people to start setting up franchises yet?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We can't until we have everything set up and we have... I mean, it's bonkers.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I got an email about it, so... We'll be sending at some point, I'm sure, like franchise... Dude, nobody's working.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry, it's just, it's just, that's just it.
		There's nobody working, and I've been saying over and over again, every other week, when I get angrier and angrier, because we're now two years on from this new location not being done, because nobody is working, and I'm like, do we have to drive to Home Depot and just offer people jobs?
		Like, tell me what to do!
		Tell me how, ask them, nobody, nobody!
		It's, it's the most insane thing, I'll be like, bro, how much money you want?
		Like, I don't want to work.
unidentified		I as well.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, holy crap, dude.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		I spent the day on the phone trying to get something done that required some manual labor and knowledge mechanic-wise.
		And I mean, you know, my girlfriend can tell you, I was just in the car non-stop calling place after place.
		And we don't have anybody that can do it.
		We just don't have the manpower.
		I mean, we literally heard that, not exaggerating, probably 30 times.
		Just don't have the manpower.
		No one knows how to do that anymore.
		Don't have the manpower.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How are people living?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, man.
unidentified		It's crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I just don't get it.
unidentified		With their parents on unemployment.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And not wanting to work.
		They just refuse to do any work.
		They're nihilistic, lazy, angry.
		I'm not saying all at once.
		I'm saying to varying degrees.
		One person's nihilistic, one person's lazy, one person's angry, one person's ego is too big.
		This work is beneath me.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, I will pay you whatever you want to do this job.
		Just please come and do it.
		I would do it myself, but I'm doing this job.
		And they're like, no.
		It's beneath me.
		I'm like, okay.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, not much beneath you when you're buried in death.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what I've said?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're getting really close to the point where I'm like, I'm just gonna tweet the address and tell people to show up.
unidentified		Hey, that might work actually.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's the address.
		Show up.
		We want this done.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		We'll provide the tools.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We've got a bunch of cashier's checks ready to go.
		Just slipping them out.
		We'll sign your name to it right now.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		At the end of the day, don't give those out early.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, this is one of the massive problems.
		There are a number of problems with this, but this is one of the massive problems with the government deciding to get involved in the economy, pick winners and losers, and say the wave of the future is going to be people being employed based on having a four to six year college degree.
		So now we're going to subsidize these loans.
		Not only has it trained people and pushed people into fields where there isn't as much demand as it was once speculated there would be, not only has it increased the cost of loans, but it takes people out of the workplace for four to six years as well.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yes, totally.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's just the weirdest thing to me that people wouldn't mind running around killing boars for three hours and then going to the quartermaster for a new quest to go kill griffins and then they're like after killing a thousand of them I've gotten enough gold to buy the forest leather boots of agility and I'm like bro get a job.
		I don't understand how that... Like, you don't feel that same way when you finally acquire your new Legend of Zelda?
		Like, I've gone to my quest master, my boss, and said, what tasks need be done?
		And then he says, you must deliver 16 bags of french fries!
		And you're like, I will do it!
		And then you run around handing out french fries, and then he gives you your quest reward, and people are not...
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what they have to do?
		They have to put VR headsets on people that are actually just goggles, like South Park, and tell them it's a video game.
		Like it is a McDonald's question.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		I hate all of this.
		I just want to be clear.
		I was very angry at the rental car ad that doesn't have a stick shift.
		I was like, it's gone too far.
		I was supposed to tell my girlfriend.
		She's like, you're not going to do well.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I've experienced this phenomenon where people in video games will play for a hundred hours to get the items they want in the game.
		A hundred hours of their time.
		Where at the same time it only costs about five hundred dollars worth of money to get the thing.
		They spend a hundred hours.
		If you work for a hundred hours, you're gonna have way more than five hundred dollars.
		You can buy the stuff, you don't have to spend a hundred dollars.
		But the idea that you don't have to play to win, you can pay to win.
		And you can get a job that pays more than the amount.
		Like, time is money.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You gotta understand that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How many casinos are popping up?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's terrifying.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Scambling in general.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, let me tell you right now.
		Near us we have Charlestown.
		If we drive one hour, just one hour east, there are three.
		You've got, so there's Charlestown, which is right here.
		Then you've got Horseshoe in Baltimore, Maryland Live, Baltimore, MGM Grand, D.C.
		If you drive an hour and a half north, you've got Hollywood Harrisburg, Hollywood York.
		If you drive about two hours west, you have Rocky Gap.
		I'm sorry, no, that's about an hour and a half, Rocky Gap.
		If you drive two hours, you've got Lady Luck, I think it's called.
		If you drive two and a half hours, if you drive one more hour past Baltimore, you've got the Delaware Racetracks.
		So that's nine, and I feel like I'm probably forgetting one.
		You also have Pittsburgh, which is two and a half hours from here, which has Pittsburgh Live.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Where are they getting the money to spend?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		To gamble?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Three hours from here is Atlantic City, and Philadelphia Live and Rivers.
		So within a few hours driving, let's just say three hours is our cap, you've probably got 15 casinos.
		The craziest thing is MGM Grand.
		And, well, I mean, honestly, Ann Horsey, the question always arises, everyone I talk to, they say, I don't know where these people have money.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's what I mean.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bro, this is what's freaking me out.
		Because I hang out at the poker tables, right?
		Poker's $300 to buy in.
		And you can play for all day and leave with $300.
		People think poker is like, you go in there, you're like, I bet it all, and you lose right.
		The game is very slow.
		You get your cards for free.
		Sit down at a poker table, before the big blind comes, I deal you cards, you get to play the game, you don't have to spend any money, you can pay $2 at the low stakes games, just for fun to hang out.
		But I go out to the floor at MGM, one hand of say, like four card poker, it's a table game, $250.
		I'm like, where does anybody have this money?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		We're losing a middle class is what's happening.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		And I think you've got people, well, I mean, there's, you know, you've got people that have a lot of money and you've got, you know, again, that gap is widening.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		And so the people with a lot of money blowing 250 bucks or whatever it is.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I was at the grocery store and we spent about 180 bucks on all these groceries and I sat down and as I was getting into the car, the thought came into my mind, it's good to be rich.
		I just thought it.
		Because I just went in, swiped a piece of plastic, and got all this food.
		I was like, wow.
		How many people just live like that?
		They're like, I'm just going to keep my mouth shut and suck off the system because I happen to be one of the rich ones and not mention.
		Like, where are they?
		Intentionally silent.
		They're intentionally camouflaging.
		All these crypto wealthy people that made millions in the last 10 years.
		All this new currency.
		Because yeah, we have $35 trillion in American dollar debt.
		All this crypto trillions.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Out of nowhere.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, out of zero two trillion, so that's another form of inflation.
		They're just silent.
		They don't want to get taxed on it.
		They don't want the government to know they have it.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's a big one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think that before we get to the metaverse era, where people detach from reality, we'll be in the casino era.
		When people don't need... Here's what'll happen.
		If UBI becomes a thing, I guarantee you people will just spend all day at the casino.
		They'll be like, I need 200 bucks for my food.
		Casino time!
		Because they got nothing else to do.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		And the money's coming back anyways.
		It doesn't matter if they have to work.
		They know the money's guaranteed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You'll notice in some casinos, there's a lot of retirees.
		And the trope of the customer is a guy who retired who gets several hundred bucks per week or a certain portion of his budget.
		He just goes to the casino.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		The money's coming.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And people often say, I was reading a meme about poker, and it was like, God bless the old man who shows up and loses his money every week.
		And then someone responded, I don't think you understand.
		This old man just wants to hang out with you.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified		100%.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you're getting their pension money, but that's what people are going to turn into.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When they no longer have to work, when food is abundant, when everything's automated, they're going to go gamble.
unidentified		That is depressing.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		I'm not arguing with you.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		I'm just saying it's depressing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is insane how many casinos there are just everywhere popping up.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like if you live in, if you live north of DC, you're within 45 minutes of three major casinos.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Not only that, look at online gambling, too.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Online gambling has been exploding.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's also true.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's massive right now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And there's really weird online gambling, too, where it's like... Have you seen the Plinko one?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Plinko is like the Japanese... Is that right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a pyramid-shaped pegs.
		And you bet money.
		The money falls down.
		And if it hits the far sides, it multiplies the money by huge numbers.
		It lands in the middle.
		It's like times one or times half.
		People are playing weird gambling games online.
		They have nothing to do.
		But my question is like, where do any of these people get money from?
		Like, I just don't- I don't know, man.
		Don't get it.
		Dude, I do not understand this.
		I go to the casino and I'll bet the crab stables a guy with 10 grand sitting there.
		I'm like, what is, what does he do?
		Like, that's crazy to me.
		And some people always say like, oh, well, maybe it's just credit or they shouldn't be gambling the money.
		And then I'm like, if that were true, I would all, I would not also be asking where are the people who are, who are like, where are the workers?
		Are they all just homeless?
		None of these people want jobs?
		No, I don't know, man.
unidentified		Who knows?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's read some more.
		Gabriel Lopez says, sorry to inform, they won't go broke.
		Corporations don't need customers in our fiat system.
		They have a good CEI score and BlackRock Fed will give them infinite free money with zero interest and they will weather the storm.
		They can only go broke if they don't go woke.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He probably meant DEI score.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He said CEI.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, DEI.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He said CEI.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's part of it.
		Where are they getting the money?
		Well, it's fiat.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's a good one.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Ten times what you have.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Drew outstanding in fields as an honor of the fallen.
		I'm matching all superchats about Memorial Day up to $1,000 on this episode.
		Giving to a veteran org that supports children of service members who made the ultimate sacrifice.
		Retired Army Sergeant.
		All gave some, some gave all.
		It's the least I can do.
		That's really amazing, dude.
		I really do appreciate that.
		So, I think to clarify what you're saying is, for people who make Memorial Day superchats here, you will donate to a charity supporting the children of veterans?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You're legit, Drew.
unidentified		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, dude.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		KidTrux says, hey, did you guys hear about the bus driver who got fired from Charlotte Area Transit System when a passenger pulled a gun on him and he defended himself?
		They fired him because they have a no-weapons policy.
		Guess they think you should just get shot.
		Well, there was the guy in the parking garage who got shot twice, wrestled the gun away from the guy, and then shot in self-defense, and then they were like, you're under arrest.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		These people need to be in jail.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Gotta get these dangerous people off the streets, Tim!
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Where was that?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Was that a New York thing?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think that was a New York thing.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think you're right.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		These prosecutors should be in jail.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They should absolutely be in jail.
unidentified		Absolutely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		100%.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Incredibly.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Plug, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When you've got Christians on TV, like, denouncing their faith, I don't think... Oh, I know they're not going to jail.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		I just said they should be.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, to be fair, denouncing your faith is one of the requirements to being a Christian on TV.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there you go.
		What do we got?
		Crooked Smiles says, I remember a campaign in another country with the Burger King mascot sharing a passionate kiss with Ronald McDonald.
		It was ridiculous.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Wait, what?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the Burger King guy?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Wait a minute.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Are you talking about the Hamburglar?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, that's McDonald's.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the King.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the King.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The Burger King.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Burger King.
		That was a really dumb idea.
		Let's make our mascot a king who runs around!
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Dude, he's horrifying.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He is, he is.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Legitimately terrifying.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's also quite horrifying about, uh, The Mayor McCheese's head is made of dead cow meat.
unidentified		That's wild.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		His head is a cheese.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		He's like a bizarre Frankenstein's monster, man.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the king.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Joel Dross says, Tim is wrong about Chick-fil-A.
		He is BSing to stay in the argument.
		It's a safer place to take your kids, and it is slammed with moms Monday through Friday.
		I did not say it was not safe.
		I did not say that it wasn't slammed with moms.
		So what am I talking about?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Stop BSing to stay in the conversation.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's saying I'm wrong about my experience in the drive-thru being overloaded.
		Dude, there's no argument.
		The drive-thru at Chick-fil-A is always full.
		Whether or not you're okay with it and you've had a good experience is different from my experience.
		My experience with Taco Bell is I'm in and out.
		My experience with Chick-fil-A is it's a huge line and we wait a long time.
		Do you think that's an issue of their popularity?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Do you think it's possible that a company just having a DEI department isn't necessarily a bad thing?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, it is.
unidentified		Yeah, it is.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		They're never gonna use that for good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It would be like if they opened, like, imagine if Taco Bell said, announcing the chief Chinese Communist Party officer.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's no difference.
unidentified		None.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You'd be like, what?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, if you remember Korea, when they found out that their Prime Minister had an involvement with, I think it was Prime Minister Moon had involvement with some kind of cult.
		This is like 2020, I think.
		Korea freaked out.
		They had thousands of people in the streets.
		I don't think anyone remembers that, but that was because of the fact that like this, and there's a difference to the Prime Minister, but they had this person in Seoul that was not part of the Korean government.
		It wasn't part of like anything like that.
		It's an ulterior motive in your government, and it's similar to that, you know?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's interesting.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		First I've heard of that.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's grab some more Super Chats.
		Stinky Fingertip says that baseball player is a Toronto, Canada.
		I don't know their hate speech laws, but he may have been facing fines or even jail time, not just his salary.
		Oh, man.
		You know, humans are so disappointing sometimes.
		I kind of just have this... You know, it's my fault, really.
		It's my fault growing up in America, at a time when we thought highly of our founding fathers for being strong, moral figures who believed in individual responsibility, personal liberties.
		It's my fault for believing those things should be inherent in people.
		Because, in fact, it was a fluke.
		This country is a rarity, is it an oddity, that people would defy the established order to take command and take control.
		You know what I think it is?
		You had this big city, you had this big country, you had London, you had these European cities, and people were like, I don't want to live this way.
		Isn't it really funny?
		Religious persecution.
		So they said, we're going to leave.
		I would rather risk dying over the oceans I would rather land on barren shores than live with these people.
		And they did!
		And then those people had kids, and taught those kids, and those people had kids, and taught those kids, and then you had a small country where they were basically all thinking the same thing.
		Get the F away from me!
		So they severed ties.
		Now, after hundreds of years later, we have been demoralized and broken down into lazy, vapid individuals, and here's what I wonder.
		Is it just going to take another American colonial movement?
		Do a bunch of people just say, I'm moving to El Salvador?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		I think what you just described is a great quote.
		Y'all probably talked about it on the show before.
		But it's, hard times create strong men.
		You know where I'm going.
		Strong men create good times.
		Good times create weak men.
		And weak men create hard times.
		I think we're literally witnessing that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, Peter... But it's also spiraling downward.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Peter Adia said that it's only recently that things have begun to fall apart and it has a lot to do with the food pyramid, this business plan that the American government was involved in creating and pushing on people as propaganda to make them think that that's what they're supposed to be eating, empty carbs.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's criminal.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		The entire food pyramid, everything the government puts... I've lost my mind many times reading government guidelines, quote-unquote, about food and health.
		It's literally, generally you could just do the opposite of everything they're telling you.
		I mean, they got the man in the dress, like, telling you how to eat, how to be healthy, and he's also overweight.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		He's clearly a very healthy guy, right?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		And they're telling you this is what you need to do to get healthy.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		I'll do the opposite, it's been working great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I wonder if the answer is doing what the founding fathers and our ancestors did, and straight up get on a boat and go build your own place.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		We'll talk about some of the ways in which Reagan was overrated, but one thing he said which is dead honest, there's nowhere else to go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		El Salvador.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		El Salvador?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		We're gonna go build El Salvador?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think there will be a human revolution on Mars when we start populating another planet, which, you know, maybe it seems fantastical now, but it will happen.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And when it does, there will be a revolution on that planet and they will take control of their government the way that Americans did.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wow, the expanse.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's what that's about.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Basically, in the show, you've got, uh, Mars was a colony, but it was heavily militaristic because of the way you had to live to survive, and then they basically break off and form their own country or whatever.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Ironically, that's like, and maybe people don't know about this, but that's in Gundam, too.
		The same thing happens.
		Mars Alliance is basically very militaristic because of how hard life was, and then they would attack Earth in their story.
		It makes sense.
		It does, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If we were gonna have a colony on Mars, it would require, like, intense discipline, obedience, and governmental support.
		So you would have a full military function to everything.
		Yeah, they would not tolerate BS, especially if they need those resources.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		No, no way.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Could be that we colonize the ocean, that we build islands and colonize the ocean.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Oh that's interesting.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Did you ever see, oh my gosh, years ago there was this plan for a massive floating tax shelter island that people would finance to go live on.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Oh man, it was an incredible pipe dream.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		OMG Puppy says Santa Claus was at the Council of Nicaea and he punched one of the other bishops.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		He punched a heretic, he punched an Aryan heretic.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		So just know he is checking that list twice, alright?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So did he steal his sled from the Romans?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Parasites go on the naughty list!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He punched one of the other bishops.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wow, Santa Claus sounds based.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I love that guy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he seems like a good guy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he's going around giving presents away.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, hit Arius.
		Just clocked him.
		That's a legend.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And we hope, you know... He's got a mean right hook.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's grab some more super chats.
		Where are we at?
		Sparky says, Newsflash, Russia is no longer communist.
		Interesting.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, really.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Whoa, didn't know that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, we get a couple more in here.
		Seth Klein says, Recently unemployed and looking for work.
		Not sure if I could help with anything.
		We are very close to Me just tweeting out the- I'm not even kidding.
		Like, I've already said several times, if we don't get someone, I'm literally just gonna tweet the address and then we'll set up, like, a job fair.
		Okay.
		Like here, here's what we're looking for.
		Here's the address.
		See ya.
		Here's the time.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		The toughest thing is though, is a lot of these things require some level of skill, like, you know, like someone's got to show up who knows concrete.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So we can get the concrete done.
		Someone's got to show up who knows wiring to get the wiring done.
		But every time we hire a new company, the same thing happens.
		They're like, we can't find people.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Nobody wants to work.
		Wow.
		Add to that the homeless crisis and the illegal immigration crisis and we're done.
		There's an unprecedented extraction happening on this country right now.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		But have you considered that that hurts my feelings and you're mean?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe we need more mean tweets.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe the mean tweets were the thing that actually made it work.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		They were fun!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's see where we're at.
		Guitar Maker says, I was blessed enough, talented enough, and lucky enough to have made my living playing guitar.
		Now I'm retired from the stage and make guitars as a hobby.
unidentified		Oh, nice.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Very cool.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Kurt Ansom says, since McDonald's is going fully automated, could you do the same?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Just program a less beta version of Ian.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We spend more time- I don't think you can get less beta than me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Sorry to interrupt you.
unidentified		So I- Was there more to that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They said, uh...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We spend more time shutting down the pseudo-hippie than he brings up Val- I don't-
unidentified		You spend more time shutting- I actually like your hippie side, just to be clear.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We- I bought something called, uh, I bought some all-natural hippie deodorant that's made of, like, carnauba wax and, like, fragrance and stuff, and one of the scents was dragon's blood, and I opened it up and it smells like your bedroom.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I have no clue.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Bring it over.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, it's like the incense that he burns.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Nag Champa.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I wasn't talking about his dirty laundry.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I wasn't sure what it was.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Or were you?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like whatever that weird hippie garbage he's always burning or something.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's the incense.
unidentified		Okay, that's fair.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's patchouli or something.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's my fine fragrance.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		The thing about dragon's blood is it keeps dragons away.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, there is an incense.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It scares them.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The smell, they can't stand it.
		There's an incense called dragon's blood.
		I haven't burned that one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's probably what it is.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I haven't burned that one before.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's Nag Champa.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and become a member at TimCast.com because we're going to have a members-only, uncensored show coming up for you where we talk about Joe Biden's accuser fleeing to Russia, so you don't want to miss it.
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		I'm sorry, at TimCastIRL.
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		Seth, do you want to shout anything out?
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you can support what we're doing at ultrarightbeer.com.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate everyone that's done so, so far.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for hanging out.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		You guys can check what we're doing out at Freedom Tunes.
		We are actually going to be releasing three videos this week.
		We just released one today.
		For those of you who missed the debunkers, we're going to be releasing an episode of that cartoon tomorrow and then another surprise cartoon on Thursday.
		I hope you all go over there and check it out.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Ian Crossland here, Seth Weathers.
		That's Seth Weathers on Twitter.
		Thanks for the beer, man.
		Ultra-ripe, dude.
		It's delicious.
		I'm still sipping on it right now.
		And for the record, Nag Champa is an Indian fragrance made with a combination of sandalwood and either champak or frangipani.
		I haven't heard either of those, so maybe that's what you're smelling.
unidentified		I don't know.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Bye, everyone!
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that was a good one.
		I'm really glad to meet you in real life, Seth.
		It's a pleasure.
seth weathers ▲ ● ▼		Same.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and for everyone else, I am Serge.com.
		You can argue with me on Twitter.
		I actually talk to Seth on Twitter a lot.
		Yeah, funnily enough.
		Yeah, this has been fun.
		I'll see you guys in the after, hopefully.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, everybody.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We'll see you all over at TimCast.com in a couple minutes.

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