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tim pool
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tim pool
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You know, one of the craziest stories that I've seen today, and we'll get into it now, from Post Millennial, Biden Department of Homeland Security paid $40 million on anti-terrorism program comparing Turning Point USA heritage PragerU to Nazis using Antifa propaganda.
It has never been more clear that there is a culture war and they are targeting you.
The pyramid of far-right radicalization.
Look at this.
They put Breitbart next to the Proud Boys, Patriot Prayer, Three Percenters, Quillette!
I love that.
Quillette is in that category.
seamus coughlin
I have to do another conspiracy pyramid review.
tim pool
Well, okay.
seamus coughlin
This is Biden, though.
This is real.
tim pool
Yes.
This is the DHS.
This is the federal government using taxpayer funds to target right-wing organizations like Fox News.
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tim pool
Welcome to modern America, I guess.
seamus coughlin
That's hilarious.
wesley hunt
This is why Trump passed away.
This is exactly why Trump passed away.
I'm sorry.
This is exactly why.
Yeah, because I'm... So basically what they're saying is that even if you look at the far right corner, that's the Republican Party.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
unidentified
Yes!
hannah claire brimelow
It's the first tier of extremism!
tim pool
It's the Republican Party!
wesley hunt
That's my party, that I'm a Republican.
tim pool
You Nazi!
seamus coughlin
That's me!
hannah claire brimelow
You're a fourth tier extremist.
wesley hunt
So what bothers me about this, this is a really interesting fact, this is combat veterans in Congress.
There are 38 congressmen and women from the state of Texas, the second most of any other place in the entire country, 38.
11 of them are veterans.
Of the 11?
They're all Republicans.
tim pool
James, you gotta push that microphone away when you're eating.
hannah claire brimelow
You're making very solid points.
unidentified
I'm just laughing really hard.
wesley hunt
I know, right?
And he's eating chocolate over here.
seamus coughlin
Look, this is really upsetting, but I'm sorry.
wesley hunt
No, come back!
hannah claire brimelow
He already had his rant.
He's done.
seamus coughlin
I know, you're right.
I'm just, I'm sorry.
He has low blood sugar right now.
wesley hunt
It's totally fine.
seamus coughlin
Because I am lost in this pyramid.
I'm lost in the idea that Fox News is just a larger, less radical version of the Nazi party.
wesley hunt
Unbelievable.
tim pool
I like how they have the Keck flag.
Do you guys see it?
seamus coughlin
Oh my gosh, that's right next to Nazi.
tim pool
Right below Nazis is the flag that mocks the Nazi flag.
serge du preez
Yeah, it's funny.
tim pool
The fake oppressed country.
serge du preez
It's absurd.
unidentified
Wow.
hannah claire brimelow
When Heritage posted about this earlier, they said it's 80 grants and 39.6 million taxpayer dollars later.
This is what they've come up with.
unidentified
Wait, how much money did they spend doing this?
hannah claire brimelow
39.6 million taxpayer dollars.
seamus coughlin
Okay, Microsoft Paint is not that expensive.
unidentified
I feel like any one of us could have put one of these together in an hour.
serge du preez
They just have the basic Nazi swastika there.
It's just so basic.
wesley hunt
So what's the symbol above the Fox News?
tim pool
The American flag?
I have no idea.
Oh, the American Conservative Union.
hannah claire brimelow
And the NRA is on here.
Nice.
unidentified
Excellent.
seamus coughlin
The NRA. Okay. I like that also. I like that Prager U and TPUSA are like a step up from
normal. Like from like the NRA and Heritage Foundation.
Just one step closer. Is there actually like a substantive difference? Is there really
that much of a substantive difference between what Prager U and TPUSA say and what pretty
mainstream Republicans say? I don't really.
I don't think so.
hannah claire brimelow
You don't understand because you're bigoted.
seamus coughlin
Oh, that's right.
hannah claire brimelow
It all looks the same to me.
tim pool
You don't understand because you're Irish.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, that's also true.
hannah claire brimelow
University of Dayton is the one who put this together.
serge du preez
Does anyone recognize any of the organizations at the top of this pyramid?
hannah claire brimelow
But would you admit to it if you did?
serge du preez
No.
tim pool
Oh wait, that's the Ukrainian one right there, isn't that?
The, the, the... Azov?
seamus coughlin
I don't know.
tim pool
No, I'm kidding, it's not.
serge du preez
It's not.
tim pool
But why aren't they out there?
wesley hunt
I actually don't recognize any of them at all either.
seamus coughlin
You know what's really funny?
wesley hunt
Basically... But I'm a Republican, so I'm the foundation of this whole thing.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, well, you know what's really funny?
hannah claire brimelow
You're not high on the command.
seamus coughlin
Literally.
unidentified
One day, if you're lucky.
wesley hunt
If only I could work my way up to knowing what those are on top.
unidentified
We come back in a year and you're like, okay, I'll tell you now.
seamus coughlin
I love that the two groups at the bottom, like the Republican Party and Fox News, are probably the only subsection of this entire group that have some people who want money to go to Azov.
tim pool
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Right?
Like, all of the radical far-right neo-Nazis.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
The fourth quadrant.
hannah claire brimelow
Sorry.
tim pool
I notice how they're, like, oddly shaped.
Like, what's up with that?
Like, do they not know how to draw a pyramid or something?
hannah claire brimelow
No.
$39 million later, they can't do this.
seamus coughlin
Well, yeah.
I mean, look, they spent $39 million.
They got some nice artistic stuff.
unidentified
InfoWars and Turning Point on the same plane.
hannah claire brimelow
Look, they're indistinguishable.
seamus coughlin
Charlie Kirk, Alex Jones, I can't tell them apart.
tim pool
I love how Quillette is right next to Infowars.
Congratulations, Claire Lehman.
You're officially Alex Jones.
seamus coughlin
I like the idea that Alex Jones is just a louder version of Charlie Kirk.
It's just like if you read the transcript what they're saying is identical.
hannah claire brimelow
And then they have like, okay, is this supposed to be all Trump supporters or is this a specific organization that uses me?
serge du preez
There's literally the MAGA hat.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, what is the MAGA hat?
Is that like a letterhead or is that they're literally all Trump supporters?
wesley hunt
So I didn't see that.
hannah claire brimelow
You vote for Trump, you move up a tier.
wesley hunt
That's a bad guy.
You're moving on up, don't worry.
unidentified
We got some audio to play.
To your question about what can liberals do, and I feel like it's a trite and simple answer, but you can give money.
That's always really appreciated.
We have legal defense funds because we get in trouble.
A lot of the things we're doing are illegal, right?
What I'm saying, what I'm telling you, a lot of it involves breaking the law.
And this is what the FBI will say.
I've had many conversations with the FBI about this.
Go back to your question about what liberals do, and I feel like it's a trait.
seamus coughlin
This guy's a complete fad.
He's like, yeah, I break the law a lot, and then I talk to the FBI about it, and I haven't gotten in any trouble.
tim pool
Yep.
unidentified
Because the FBI and Antifa.
tim pool
Because Antifa got smart, and they were like, let's join the FBI and take it over.
And they did.
Seamus, why aren't you in the FBI?
What are you doing over there?
seamus coughlin
I'm busy.
tim pool
Don't swat my paper airplane.
It was a really nice one and it was going real slow.
seamus coughlin
Don't swat.
That's not what I threat you.
What did you throw at me? There's so many paper airplanes over here that Tim's throwing at me that I literally picked
tim pool
up the wrong one.
Stop manhandling my paper airplane.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, that was a nice one.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, that's right. I make really good ones.
tim pool
I make good airplanes.
hannah claire brimelow
You are?
tim pool
Yeah, see I make them.
hannah claire brimelow
I've never seen the folding the nose.
As an Apache pilot, can you check the validity of these?
wesley hunt
It actually does a better job with Bernoulli's principle.
unidentified
Okay.
hannah claire brimelow
Cool!
tim pool
See that?
You gotta throw it right, though.
seamus coughlin
I know.
hannah claire brimelow
What happens after this?
We get this sweet pyramid, we're all shocked that this is what academia and DHS are producing, and then what happens?
seamus coughlin
All the right-winger- we solve Nazism.
It's over.
unidentified
We disavow the top three, four levels of the pyramid.
seamus coughlin
And then we're good to go home.
hannah claire brimelow
We repent to the liberals and then we call it a day?
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
I love also that the idea that what a pyramid conveys is if you remove the piece from the bottom or the pieces from the bottom, it all topples over.
So like, if we just got rid of the Heritage Foundation, neo-Nazism would topple over tomorrow.
unidentified
Dennis Frager is Jewish!
tim pool
I know!
This is wild.
These people are psychopaths.
They are deranged cultists.
serge du preez
Yeah, and they're on a whole bunch of pharmaceutical medication.
seamus coughlin
What is AIM?
Like AOL Instant Messenger?
Did it get radicalized?
tim pool
Where's that at?
unidentified
Where's AIM?
seamus coughlin
Right there in the third tier.
Right next to Daily Stormer.
tim pool
American... something?
unidentified
Movement?
seamus coughlin
I don't know.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
I don't know what this is.
They got Generation Identity.
Oh, right, right, right.
Daily Stormer.
The Keck flag being up here is the funniest shit ever.
seamus coughlin
That's the stupidest thing I've ever seen.
tim pool
The Keck flag was a joke meant to mock the Nazi flag.
And the idea was they were an oppressed country.
The Kekistanis was a fake identity to mock wokeness.
seamus coughlin
Yes.
tim pool
And they're like, they're Nazis.
They're literally making fun of Nazis, you fucking idiots.
Yep.
hannah claire brimelow
That's nuanced.
They can't handle that.
They also can't put a pyramid together.
I will pay you $39.6 million to draw one of these for the left.
seamus coughlin
Absolutely.
Yeah, let's do it.
If you will pay me that amount, I can make one of these.
unidentified
Please do.
seamus coughlin
I think I could, look, I have a copy of Microsoft Paint, so that's- After Trump gets elected.
wesley hunt
How about $10?
unidentified
$10?
seamus coughlin
You're both making really compelling offers here.
But I think I'm gonna have to go with Tim's.
wesley hunt
$39 million.
tim pool
Hold on.
I've got, uh, what do I got in here?
I got five bucks.
seamus coughlin
Hold on.
Wait.
wesley hunt
I got five bucks.
unidentified
I got five bucks.
seamus coughlin
How did this go from $39 million to $10 to $5?
tim pool
No.
I said bucks though, didn't I?
seamus coughlin
I guess we don't know what a buck is.
tim pool
He means chicken bucks.
Yeah, chicken bucks.
seamus coughlin
But that means I will hold you to account for that.
I will make sure I get 39 million chicken bucks, and that's honestly going to be harder for you in the long run to produce in a tangible, legal way than the money would be.
tim pool
Chicken City is live 24-7, and I will just make sure everybody knows every buck you hear belongs to Seamus.
seamus coughlin
Or, $5.
Well, that would mean I get all the revenue from Chicken City, because people are tuning in for the bucks.
tim pool
No, they're not.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, they are.
tim pool
No, you have the bucks, not the cash.
seamus coughlin
You think if the chickens didn't bawk, people would watch Chicken City?
tim pool
Bro, Chicken City is like our second most profitable show.
seamus coughlin
You're a fool.
hannah claire brimelow
Here, I'll throw in a liquid IV to this deal.
Are you gonna make it now?
tim pool
Liquid IV?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, it's like a supplement thing.
wesley hunt
Now we're talking.
seamus coughlin
Uh, alright.
tim pool
I got a better idea.
seamus coughlin
Where's his pyramid?
Hold on, hold on.
Well, hold on a second.
Let's sweeten the deal.
hannah claire brimelow
Okay.
seamus coughlin
Okay.
wesley hunt
So... It's gonna be great.
unidentified
I'll also give you all of the gems on the inside of the table.
seamus coughlin
That's not yours to give.
hannah claire brimelow
Hey, you don't know that.
seamus coughlin
That's actually not yours to give.
hannah claire brimelow
I occupy this territory.
tim pool
How about a new car?
seamus coughlin
I know what you're doing.
tim pool
I know what you're talking about.
seamus coughlin
You're going to give me a broken down car and tell me I have 30 days to move it.
I've seen you do this to people before.
unidentified
30?
30 days?
tim pool
I was going to give you 24 hours.
unidentified
24 hours.
seamus coughlin
He's a nice guy.
tim pool
I've got a 2006 Chevy Cobalt just needing to get moved off my property.
And the best way to get it moved is to let someone win the car.
And then, you know, they have 24 hours to get off my property, otherwise they're trespassing.
seamus coughlin
All right, look, the economy is in shambles.
I'm having a difficult time.
wesley hunt
If you get in the car.
seamus coughlin
I will take the money.
wesley hunt
And an IV and five bucks.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I'll take the IV and five bucks in the car.
tim pool
No, I got it.
I got it.
I'm gonna keep the five bucks.
I'm happier with it.
unidentified
Whoa.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, I'm in for the liquid IV.
I expect half a pyramid at least.
unidentified
Okay.
All right.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't care if it's the right side or the top two tiers.
I just want to see part of the deal.
wesley hunt
I'm giving you five so you'll do half of it.
seamus coughlin
I should have taken your offer, man.
You should have taken it!
unidentified
This is the worst episode of Shark Tank I've ever seen in my life.
hannah claire brimelow
Trump is not impressed by your negotiating skills right now.
wesley hunt
He'll give you five minutes to get back.
You're like, he'll take this five dollars and do half a pyramid.
This has been hilarious.
tim pool
I'm holding the five bucks, and I'm happier with the five dollars.
hannah claire brimelow
No, I'm not.
I really want to see Seamus' take on this pyramid, especially given that smaller size of group equals increased level of extremism.
I just want to know what you can come up with.
tim pool
You should put Whoopi Goldberg's face on it.
seamus coughlin
You know, Tim, I think that since you didn't give me the $5, you don't get a say.
unidentified
The top tier should be Bud Light.
seamus coughlin
Drinking Bud Light should be one of these ones at the bottom.
hannah claire brimelow
Where is Target?
seamus coughlin
Shopping at Target, drinking Bud Light, and then you...
tim pool
But you've got to put it next to like Stalin and like a sickle and hammer and like the Holodomor.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
tim pool
And then like Bud Light next to it and Joy Behar.
seamus coughlin
Dude I love how they do this.
unidentified
The worst.
seamus coughlin
Where they'll just take bad thing and put it next to innocuous thing and then you're supposed to go oh innocuous thing is bad thing now.
Like I guess I guess I can't tell.
hannah claire brimelow
But I'm being serious I feel like we do like to show someone on the left or even just a moderate person how ridiculous this is you need to make a left equivalent right?
Like if I were to say you watch CNN and then you're I don't even know.
A communist.
A communist.
They need to see what the equivalent comparison is, because I think people are so, like, we can't even identify most of these things.
tim pool
But if you watch CNN, you are a communist.
hannah claire brimelow
That's true.
seamus coughlin
Dude, they say that communism isn't communism, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
When you point out what Joseph Stalin did, they go, that's not real communism.
But then they look at Fox News and they go, this is Nazism.
This is what Hitler wanted.
tim pool
And they turn it on and it's like Bill Hemmer being like, the stock market is down three points today on news that Joe Biden was traveling to Boeing.
unidentified
Yeah, they're like, oh god!
seamus coughlin
Or Fox News was saying something like, we really need to support our allies in Israel.
They're like, this is a Nazi channel.
serge du preez
This is so wild.
seamus coughlin
The anti-semitism is rampant on Fox News.
tim pool
Well, it was like, it was funny when a lot our reporter went to a bar and they called him a Nazi.
serge du preez
Yeah, I know.
tim pool
He's a, he's Jewish.
wesley hunt
What the fuck?
seamus coughlin
A lot does not, like, hide that he's Jewish.
tim pool
He's actually suing them for discrimination based on his religion and race, I think.
Good for him.
seamus coughlin
He should.
wesley hunt
Listen to more of that.
tim pool
Yeah, absolutely.
Good for him.
He's gonna come and talk about it at some point.
We're gonna see where it goes.
But it's like this lefty bar that was, like, a bartender screaming at him that he's, like, Zionist or something, so get the F out, you Nazi.
hannah claire brimelow
And it's, like, And when they contacted the bar, they were like, it sounds like you have a problem with the bartender, not the bar.
tim pool
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
What?
seamus coughlin
Dude, I hope he crushes him.
serge du preez
Yeah, he will.
tim pool
He's gonna win.
serge du preez
It's New York.
Yeah.
tim pool
Imagine what would happen if they don't defend a Jewish man who was attacked at a bar for being a Zionist.
unidentified
Yeah.
wesley hunt
Oh my gosh.
unidentified
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
It'd be crazy.
serge du preez
It's wild.
seamus coughlin
Dude, Ilan's gonna walk in here like...
How much, how much richer?
I don't know.
How much do you think he's gonna get paid out from this?
Let's start speculating.
How much are his legal fees?
Alad, I have a left-wing pyramid to sell you if you pay me.
unidentified
More than $10.
I've already invested in this pyramid.
hannah claire brimelow
I demand at least half of it to be proven.
seamus coughlin
You invested in half of it?
hannah claire brimelow
I never said half though.
Am I getting the top tier, the lower tier?
tim pool
After Alad wins, he's gonna carry on a little satchel of gold around his neck.
South Park reverence.
serge du preez
Yeah, true.
tim pool
Because he'll have a lot of money, you know?
Because he'll have won it from communists.
seamus coughlin
I hope, look, I hope he crushes, I hope he beats those communists.
I'll be very happy if Allah does that.
tim pool
Let's, uh, I'll briefly bring this up because it's kind of related, it's kind of funny.
Look at this, Woke California Bank that caters to LGBTQ customers shutting down amid racism, fraud, scandal.
serge du preez
Can't make it up.
tim pool
It says, uh, what is it?
It's like Handmaid's Tale meets Queer Bank.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Is that what the bank is called?
What is Daylight?
Daylight, a US-based neo-bank exclusively catering to the LGBT community.
Could you imagine going to a bank and being like, I'd like to open a savings account, and they'd be like, and do you prefer sucking dick or eating vagina?
seamus coughlin
And you're like...
tim pool
So I have Navy Federal, right?
And Navy Federal says that to become a member you have to be in the military service or you have to be the family of or live with the person who is in the service.
And so it's like, you go and you're like, you have to prove it.
And you have to like, you know, fill out the forms.
This bank to me is like the weirdest thing ever.
To go in there and for them to say, based on a protected category, they can deny or provide is insane.
How can that even be allowed to exist?
seamus coughlin
Do they like lower your interest rate if your interest rate in them is high?
unidentified
They deny you if you don't have certain problems.
tim pool
No, no, no.
They deny you based on your orientation.
Okay.
seamus coughlin
That's illegal.
This is obviously woke nonsense.
It's not like they did some kind of political or financial analysis.
They're like, well, gay people just pay their loans off more often, so it's just less of a risk.
We're sorry, straight guys, can't give you a loan.
wesley hunt
Zero data whatsoever.
seamus coughlin
Zero data to suggest that this is actually a better client base.
tim pool
We have seen over and over again, the left, The left claims that they don't like police, then they call police against their enemies.
seamus coughlin
They have no principles.
tim pool
They say, we don't want hate speech, then they openly mock Christians.
They say, you shouldn't be able to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation, and then they open a bank to do it!
These people are evil fucking hypocrites.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
No, they have no values.
Well, this is what I always say.
Leftism is social decay.
That's all it is.
It's a person attempting to rationalize their failure to uphold their end of the bargain in living in a civil society, which is things that you don't want to do.
Yeah, I know.
If you want the culture that you're living in to be maintained, You can't just sleep around with with anyone and everyone right because that's not good because then you create children out of wedlock with someone which creates all sorts of sort of social programs you know you can't just not work you can't spread sexual degeneracy whatever it is whatever it is they're failing to do these are all things
It's not as if left-wing people reach the position that these things are okay to do intellectually and then start living that way.
They're living this way because it's easier for them to live that way, because they just want to give into their passions instead of using reason.
And then they create a rationalization for living that way, and we call that rationalization leftism.
It's just the forces of entropy, the forces of decay, the forces of vice are repackaged in an intellectual sounding framework and we call it leftism.
That's all it is.
hannah claire brimelow
It's broken and warped people deciding the way our society should go.
I don't personally prefer that.
wesley hunt
And by the way, it's an extreme minority.
seamus coughlin
Very extreme.
wesley hunt
So we are literally catering to this like 2% here.
seamus coughlin
Smaller but more extreme as you go up the pyramid.
wesley hunt
It's unbelievable.
So why are we doing that?
So why don't we just stop doing that?
Because the majority doesn't feel that way.
And again, now this is kind of what we were talking about earlier, you know, with the whole target issue being a 75, the trans target issue being a 75-25% issue.
How about the 75% say, no.
Yeah.
serge du preez
Yeah.
wesley hunt
And then you lose $9 billion.
And then that's when the 2% say, yikes, we can't do that anymore.
We need more of that.
seamus coughlin
Well, and it's not just, here's the thing, it's not even 75-25, right?
It's much smaller than that.
When you look at the number of people who call themselves queer.
wesley hunt
It's much smaller than that.
I'm talking about that one particular issue is still the majority, overwhelming majority, don't agree with it.
So why doesn't a majority speak up and say, No.
seamus coughlin
Well, and so Aaron McIntyre talks about this a lot, but his basic argument here is because that tiny minority has done such a good job capturing our institutions, if your average person tries to stand up against it, they're going to get crushed.
So what conservatives really need to do is figure out either how to reclaim these institutions or build their own.
I can't tell you what his prescription is.
I think he said things about trying to reclaim them.
I'm not sure if that's where he stands, but I think the general point is, they're a tiny minority, but they're a frightening minority because they have so much power.
And it's wild because, so if you look in the United States, the progressive left are 6% of the public.
wesley hunt
Yeah.
unidentified
Right?
seamus coughlin
That's 6%.
That's a very small fraction, and yet all of corporate America is pandering to them.
It's catering to that demand.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's because they have all of the- Because those are the ones that will firebomb you.
seamus coughlin
They'll firebomb you, but also, I think what happened is they captured the institutions.
So, remember the lady from Bud Light who was talking about how their image was a little too fratty for her.
She wanted something more open and more interesting and accepting of LGBTQ identities.
wesley hunt
Don't buy the product!
seamus coughlin
But, this is the thing.
unidentified
I've heard this repeatedly.
seamus coughlin
She was almost certainly radicalized in higher education by some know-nothing leftist professor who never operated in the real world.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you know where she graduated from?
unidentified
Where?
hannah claire brimelow
Harvard.
seamus coughlin
Beautiful!
Exactly!
Exactly!
And as Thomas Sowell once said behind every... Sorry, Harvard grad.
Behind every Harvard... Well, this is... Thomas Sowell said this.
It's like behind almost every disaster is a Harvard grad.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's go to our callers.
serge du preez
Alrighty.
tim pool
We will jump to the callers.
serge du preez
I want to talk to Conspiracy Ranch.
That sounds cool and fun.
hannah claire brimelow
Let's go.
serge du preez
You have to unmute yourself there.
Uh, we can come back to you.
tim pool
Well, we'll come back to you, Conspiracy Ranch.
serge du preez
We'll come back to you in a moment here.
We'll talk to the average, uh, I think Vespasian?
Average Vespasian.
You are in the chat.
What's going on?
unidentified
Uh, hey guys, how's it going?
seamus coughlin
Pretty good!
unidentified
Yeah, I just wanted to thank you, Tim and crew, for the discussions you guys have that, you know, a lot of other people don't.
I think you guys do a really good job of touching on topics others won't for a whole list of reasons.
tim pool
Thank you.
unidentified
With that said, I am considerably right-wing.
I am a Christian, first and foremost, and my question is for Seamus primarily, but also Tim.
So being a Christian and having Matthew 28, 18 through 20 in scripture, and I can bring that up if you guys want, but I'm pretty square in the Christian nationalist corner.
I think the right's explicit, you know, live and let live attitude could only work in a society where there was a religious foundation, where everyone largely had the same expectations for what was acceptable.
And in fact, I've seen a common trope of the typical conservatives say something like, you know, I don't have a problem with insert some form of degradation, but just don't bring it around me or my children.
So, I don't think evil is ever satisfied in isolation, so I think it kind of perverts everything it's allowed to, and just naturally makes it a center stage eventually.
So, I simply don't think you can hold the attitude of endorsing evil as long as it doesn't affect you, because, you know, eventually it does, doesn't it?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I want to respond to that.
Firstly, I totally agree with all of that with one caveat.
I've heard the phrase Christian nationalist thrown around by the media a lot as a kind of boogeyman term.
I have no idea what it actually means, but I would certainly agree with you that evil is never satisfied being left alone to conduct itself.
It has to corrupt what's good, and that's because ultimately that's what evil is.
Evil is a corruption of the good.
It can create nothing original on its own.
It can only mock, and it needs to continue to mock.
tim pool
I agree, and this is what's given me... I've had a political shift in the past couple of years over this, that I think a lot of people have too.
You see a lot of people either becoming religious, or starting to talk about the country's need for religion.
And it's because it's obvious that when you sever the country from its roots, which is Christian moral framework, you get absolute psychosis and cult-like behaviors.
And so, I think we need to have a moral framework.
And my view of it is not that it's like a Handmaid's Tale style like Christian theocracy or anything like that.
seamus coughlin
Even Handmaid's Tale is not a Christian theocracy.
tim pool
But not like an authoritarian theocracy where the left is trying to make everyone think it is.
It's just like kind of how the country used to be 20 or 30 years ago where people were all basically Christian.
seamus coughlin
I mean, I'd take it back further than that, but what's important to remember in... I'm not sure what... By the way, could you remind me of your name?
unidentified
Average Vespasian respecter.
seamus coughlin
Okay, so what I would say is that part of what's important to remember too, and I'm not sure what sect you're from, but I know that in classical Christian thought and in Catholic thought particularly, there's this idea of subsidiarity, which says that that which can be handled by the most local possible authority should be handled by the most local possible authority.
So the Christian framework is Yeah, I mean, there are certain things which, when it becomes necessary, you absolutely need strong laws for, right?
Abortion's an obvious one because that's actually murdering another person.
But then there are things like artificial contraceptives and pornographic material.
And I think that local communities are more than entitled to pass the laws that they feel need to be passed to prevent those things from rotting their society apart, even on that small state scale.
unidentified
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you want to comment on this?
You looked excited by some of these comments.
wesley hunt
Well, I was just saying, that's called a republic.
Actually, that's a constitutional republic.
That literally is the whole point, to give as much power to the local municipality to make their own decisions for their own individual communities.
Which oftentimes tend to be more conservative than anything we could do at the global federal level.
That's why we've always wanted to push it down to the communities to make sure that they get to choose, oftentimes, the most conservative way.
Why?
Well, because our communities have a certain church that you grew up in, there's a certain level of beliefs that you're surrounded by.
You move to neighborhoods that are like-minded and they tend to be more conservative, which is what we want to do is empower the individual citizen.
I'm a Christian.
My entire foundation is based on Christianity.
I grew up in a Southern Baptist Church, greater Houston area.
That's my foundation.
I grew up in a Christ-centered foundation and I think that's the center of a lot of not just me but my family's success.
Now I can't say as a lawmaker everyone has to do that because this is a free country.
What I think we should be talking about, though, is what are the values, and values come in all different shapes and sizes, but what are the American values that you were talking about a second ago that are the founding and the foundation of this country that made us the most successful country in the history of the world?
And are we regressing from the progress that we've made?
The answer is emphatically yes.
hannah claire brimelow
And it coincides with our lack of church attendance.
I think that's what we have a hard time.
I understand why this term, Christian nationalism, is something especially left-leaning media fears because they want to say, oh, we're tolerant of all the different people in our communities and things like that.
But we have to recognize that ultimately we were founded by Christians as a nation whose values are tied to Christianity.
And I would rather live in a society where I can't force you to believe in God or anything else.
But if we all agreed on common values, I think we would be stronger for it.
tim pool
Ask Bill Maher which country he would rather live in.
The American Christian nation or the woke leftist with, you know, whatever, woke leftist nation.
wesley hunt
You know what he's gonna pick?
tim pool
He's gonna pick the Christian nation, hands down.
And he's gonna be like, well, I don't agree with them, but you know, he wouldn't have a few years ago because he didn't believe it existed.
But my point is mostly this.
If you can show someone pure leftism and you can show someone pure American Christian foundational morals, they choose the Christian foundational morals.
I'll make it simpler for you.
Which would you prefer?
Average American waking up on Christmas morning with snow falling down in the streets, the music playing, singing a Christmas song, presents there, and your family hugging, or a poly-polycule with no religion, children singing songs and booty dancing.
Like, there's no question.
unidentified
Of course.
wesley hunt
There's no question.
tim pool
6% of the people may be like, I want the weirdo Polly.
wesley hunt
They are, but that's not the country.
tim pool
People in this country dream of having a family Christmas, it's candle lit, the friends are coming over, you know, holidays, that kind of fun stuff.
That's what Americans dream of.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, well and I think we're headed for something really ugly in this country because when you look at pre-christian societies, there was a lot of ugliness.
That's true.
I think we're headed for something really worse and it's not just because of our technological capabilities and it's not just because of the fact that we can make our violence very clean and remove it from a public eye so it's more tolerable to people, but it's because I think What a person becomes once they have been Christian and then rejected Christ is often far more seriously worse than what a person was when they were ignorant of Christ in the first place and living in sin.
I think that a society that loses Christ when they once had him is going to become more violent and decadent and disturbed than any pre-Christian pagan society we've ever seen.
tim pool
My view's a little different from yours, because I wouldn't say Christ, but I understand what you mean.
I think if there is a person who rejects their faith and becomes a leftist, they never really had that faith to begin with.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
I disagree.
I think you can lose faith.
I believe you can lose faith.
There are people who would agree with you.
I think there are many Protestants who would agree with you.
Many who wouldn't, but faith is a gift from God.
God doesn't owe you any gifts.
He could take that gift away when you did have it.
tim pool
I think when you develop this understanding, I think you can.
or the understanding of God to even a small degree, you can't just lose that.
seamus coughlin
I think you can.
tim pool
I don't, because to me, it's not a spiritual moment where you're like, I feel something.
It's like wisdom and knowledge.
And you don't forget that.
seamus coughlin
Well, remember, but remember the story of Samson, right?
He lost his strength when his hair got cut, right?
And he was also blinded.
I mean, it's possible to lose your strength as a person of faith, and I believe that sin blinds us.
And it can start very small, where a person just starts doing something they know that they shouldn't do, and then they end up moving down a path to even more hideous sin.
And it blinds them from being able to see the reality of Christ because you either live what you believe or you believe what you live.
wesley hunt
So can I say something?
In this country, we see the rise of podcasts like this.
We see the rise of conversations like this that we weren't even having five years ago.
We see the rise of young millennials stepping up and running for Congress.
Young Christian combat veteran millennials that are now running for office.
Why?
To bring our country back from the brink because those values are still there, even though we are blinded and we are not seeing that because we're running away from Christ.
Here's what I mean.
This is not our first rodeo in this country.
Before I was born, there were the late 60s and the 70s.
And when combat veterans were returning home from Vietnam, they were being spat on by American citizens.
We don't talk about Berkeley in the late 60s and 70s.
It was very bad, actually.
It was horrible.
It was extremely horrible.
It was a liberal renaissance.
And then what happened after that?
We had Reagan and Bush for the next 12 years on the heels of the moral degradation of our society.
And why is that?
Because brave patriots always step up and we say, okay, we've seen enough.
And we are on the precipice of this right now.
tim pool
You want to make one more quick point?
seamus coughlin
I just want to make one more quick point. I agree. So he's still on the phone. Fundamentally, I
agree with what you're saying about the backlash. And this this might be an unpopular opinion among
conservatives, but this is one of the reasons that I don't think Reagan did enough, because I think
electing Reagan the way the American people did after the sexual revolution was a referendum on
all the cultural changes the left instilled. And he should have pushed things in as far in the
opposite direction as possible. No fault divorce was a massive mistake.
Exactly, exactly.
tim pool
And you can talk about all the good things Reagan did.
wesley hunt
Agreed.
tim pool
But he set a time bomb.
seamus coughlin
What the American people were clearly communicating when he was elected is that they wanted to undo the reforms of the 60s and 70s.
That's what I believe.
And those reforms weren't undone.
tim pool
Let's average.
I think we went overboard with your question, but I did appreciate it.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, sorry, buddy.
It was a good question, clearly.
unidentified
Yeah, no, guys.
Very cash money response.
Thanks, guys.
Thanks for calling in.
seamus coughlin
Thanks for tuning in.
serge du preez
Nice.
All right.
Next up, we'll try and reach Conspiracy Ranch if we can talk to them.
tim pool
Conspiracy Ranch, you there?
unidentified
I'm here.
Can you guys hear me?
tim pool
Yes, we can.
unidentified
Nice.
seamus coughlin
We can hear you.
How you doing?
unidentified
Perfect.
Sorry.
Putting a toddler down.
So, Tim Kaskrew, I just got a question, and thank you, Congressman, for coming down tonight.
Of course.
My brother just castrated himself about five days ago.
seamus coughlin
Oh, my gosh.
unidentified
And I've been trying to ask for the last few days, how do I tell him to stay away from my kids?
Wow.
But that came to a head today when we clashed over him showing my wife a photo of his neo-vagina.
seamus coughlin
Oh, my gosh.
Dude, I'm so sorry.
unidentified
And he kept referring to himself as aunt in front of my son.
So I finally had enough today and pretty much told him he is no longer my family.
Do not talk to my children.
And I just don't think you can come back from chopping off your nuts.
seamus coughlin
Dude, I'm sorry, man.
I'm sorry.
Were you still?
unidentified
It's all right, man.
So, uh, my question is, um, my mother seems to Not necessarily.
She's taking his side but more in the lines of the very libertarian that she doesn't just care why does it affect you kind of thing.
And I just know where that leads and I'm just wondering if I am to a point where I need to move on From my mother as well and try to be safe around my kids.
seamus coughlin
You know what I would ask my mother?
If she saw one of my brothers castrate himself and asked me, how does that affect me?
How doesn't that affect you?
How does that not shred you?
How does that not tear you apart that your own child did that?
I'm sorry, what's your name?
Can you give a first name or are you anonymous?
unidentified
No, my name is Michael.
seamus coughlin
Michael, I am so sorry.
I am so sorry.
That is unbelievably horrible that that happened to you.
If I could give you one bit of advice here, it would be this.
And look, I can't imagine what it's like to be in your shoes right now.
I really thank God for the family I have.
The fact that none of my brothers would ever do anything like this, but What I would say if that were if I were in your position and what I think a good thing to be could say well still Maintaining these boundaries.
I think you are absolutely right to not let him around your children I absolutely think that is the prudent decision and thank you for having the gall to do that because we live in a culture where many parents won't protect their kids when that means being politically incorrect, but I will say I would Say to your brother, I love you, you are still my family, I think you're very confused, I can't let you around my children, because what I think you are doing is horribly destructive to yourself, and I don't want my children to make destructive choices.
I still love you, I still care for you, that's why I have to oppose this.
Because nobody who cares for you could possibly tell you that that's a good thing to do. 5150?
serge du preez
Commit them?
Yeah.
unidentified
So we live in Colorado, guys.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, you're in trouble.
seamus coughlin
What is 5150?
unidentified
Thank you, Tim, because two years ago we sold our house, bought land in BFE, Iowa.
We're building a house out there.
Chickens, homeschooling, and tons of ammo.
tim pool
There you go.
seamus coughlin
Dude, can I ask you something like, how did it get to this point?
tim pool
We're in Iowa.
seamus coughlin
Oh, to get someone involuntarily committed.
tim pool
Imagine 20 or 30 years ago if someone came and said they were going to castrate themselves.
You'd make a phone call to the sheriff and say they're threatening self-harm and they would come and they would lock them up and they would try and give them verbal therapy.
And say, we are not going to let you do this.
Something is wrong here.
These days, they say, please, please do.
seamus coughlin
Michael, I just, I gotta ask you, and I'm sorry, I'll give everyone else the floor here in a second, but how did it get to this point?
This couldn't have been the first step, right?
unidentified
So about a year and a half ago, he had a friend up the street, and he did it as well, or was talking about doing it.
And he and my brother actually had a conversation with my mother, and she goes, well, would you ever consider that?
And he goes, oh, no, no, no, that's too crazy.
It took a year and a half for him to go from, no, that's too crazy, to snip.
seamus coughlin
Dude, I'm sorry.
hannah claire brimelow
How old is your brother?
wesley hunt
That's what I'm asking.
unidentified
The thing is, man... Because it sounds like your brother may live at home.
Uh, so here's the deal.
So he lives at home.
My wife and I actually live here with our two kids, uh, in this home while we're building our house in Iowa.
But now after today and the blow up, we're packing up and I'm going to go try to find some $600 a month house to afford while we build our house.
seamus coughlin
Dude, good for you.
So many people would make an excuse not to do that.
So I really commend you.
wesley hunt
And how old is he?
How old is he?
Let me ask him.
unidentified
Uh, let's see, so he will be- he is 26.
He's the youngest of the four.
seamus coughlin
Oh my gosh, dude, he's so young!
hannah claire brimelow
So young.
tim pool
Does he have kids?
unidentified
Yep.
Nope, not anymore.
seamus coughlin
Well, he never will, yeah.
unidentified
We never will, sorry.
Yeah, never will.
seamus coughlin
Oh, dude.
Oh my gosh.
That's horrible.
I'm so sorry.
Can I ask you something?
Has he ever taken care of himself?
Has he ever been out on his own, or has he only ever lived with your parents?
unidentified
No, he has been out, but he has come back within two years every time.
seamus coughlin
Okay, dude.
You're in my prayers, Michael.
I'm so sorry.
tim pool
I think you're doing the right thing.
unidentified
I appreciate it.
We got a Catholic school in our town, and they're gonna go there.
We're not Catholic.
I know Seamus, but they're gonna still go to a Catholic school.
seamus coughlin
Listen, you might not expect this from me.
Be very careful about the Catholic school you send your kid to.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, there's 130 people in our town.
seamus coughlin
Okay, okay, good.
unidentified
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
You can round up all the Catholics, sir.
seamus coughlin
I would just, yeah, I would just say there are a lot of Catholic schools that really, they're basically like woke public schools, but with a Catholic name.
tim pool
Yep.
seamus coughlin
So I'd be careful, but yeah.
wesley hunt
There's some in Houston like that.
seamus coughlin
But God bless you, man.
I'm so sorry.
And I don't know, would you be able to give your brother's name so I can pray for him too?
If you don't, if you don't want to, please do not, but I'll pray for both of you either way.
unidentified
I will give you his God-given name, which is Alexander.
seamus coughlin
Alexander.
Michael, I will pray for your brother Alexander.
I'm so sorry.
You know what?
I will ask a priest to say a mass for both of you.
tim pool
Did we get to your question?
Or did we address it properly?
unidentified
Yes, you did.
Yes, you did.
tim pool
Right on, man.
Well, anything else you want to add?
Right on.
seamus coughlin
God bless you.
I'm so sorry.
tim pool
Yeah.
Good luck, man.
Thanks for calling in.
serge du preez
Best of luck, man.
unidentified
It's real life.
tim pool
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Dude, that's like, when I think about this in a theoretical, it's one thing, but when you hear about it happening to an actual person, dude, I'm like holding back, man.
It's hard to hear.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, and he's giving you his God-given name, because of course, his brother has now returned his name.
seamus coughlin
Dude, that's... That actually, like, genuinely broke my heart.
serge du preez
I can appreciate that he's actually saying that he castrated himself, not saying that he quote-unquote changed his sex, which is not a thing, but Anyways, I digress.
seamus coughlin
It's like, you guys have brothers?
serge du preez
I have a younger brother.
seamus coughlin
Can you imagine?
wesley hunt
Can you imagine if your brother did that?
My brother is ten months and eight days younger than me.
He's my best friend.
I can't imagine.
I don't know what I'd do.
serge du preez
I have a younger brother as well.
seamus coughlin
Count your blessings, guys.
tim pool
Irish twins.
wesley hunt
Big time.
unidentified
Wow.
Yeah, yeah.
wesley hunt
That's what it's called.
Yeah, so really, really funny, real quick.
When we were growing up, we were so close that everybody would always assume that we were just twins.
And so we would always say in unison together, no sir or ma'am.
We're 10 months apart.
So we were at the grocery store, we're checking out, and the lady goes, oh my gosh, are y'all twins?
And we did the usual, no ma'am, we're 10 months apart.
She goes, oh my gosh.
I was about five, I was five, he was four.
She goes, oh my gosh.
You're Irish twins.
I started crying.
seamus coughlin
That's the proper response.
wesley hunt
My mom said we're black.
I didn't know I was Irish.
hannah claire brimelow
You're like, that's a hate crime.
wesley hunt
She goes, oh no, you're still black.
seamus coughlin
You're like, oh, thank goodness.
I'm not Irish.
tim pool
Can you imagine being Irish?
seamus coughlin
Honestly, that's the proper response.
Yeah.
wesley hunt
Yep, ours twins.
I don't think I've met anyone closer than that actually yet.
That's like as close as you can possibly get.
seamus coughlin
I don't want to talk about it.
I met two guys born on the same day once.
tim pool
Me and my brother are 18 months apart.
serge du preez
That's pretty close.
seamus coughlin
That's about me and my brothers have like a similar... Not quite Irish twins.
wesley hunt
But you're close.
That's close.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, me and my brothers were all born within three years and three months.
So we're just like barely... Yeah.
tim pool
Let's call in USMC Burt.
serge du preez
Yeah, USMC Burt.
What is going on?
How are you?
unidentified
What's going on?
serge du preez
Not much, just talking about weird stuff, you know?
unidentified
Yeah, my question's for the Congressman.
With all of the wokeness destroying our military, I see it every day, and it hurts as a vet watching it happen.
What can Congress do to stop the degradation?
wesley hunt
So, where this starts off, sir, from the very beginning is it starts off with leadership at the top.
It's just that simple.
We have gone down a path to where we have taken out what it means to be a warfighting entity.
And what warfighters do are we find bad guys and then we kill them.
And that's it.
End of discussion.
We don't ask questions about what's your religion, what's your gender, what's that?
No, no, no, that's not how that works.
I went to West Point.
It's the United States Military Academy.
Capital M. When I went to West Point, we weren't having any of these conversations, so we were a more lethal force.
So now what we're seeing is a degradation on the world scale.
You're looking at what's happening with Vladimir Putin in the Ukraine, you're looking at what's happening with Iran having a nuclear weapon, and with China knocking on the door of Taiwan.
And the reason why the world is behaving like this is because they're looking at our military being focused more on gender than focused on war fighting.
So your question is, what can we do in the halls of Congress?
To be honest with you, at this point, not that much.
We have got to make a change with the Commander-in-Chief and our leadership, and I guarantee you, This can go right back to the way it was very quickly.
Now, the world has to understand that.
We are literally giving up our world power.
We're giving up our global reputation.
We are seeing it on full display.
If we want that back, you can't rely on Congress.
We have to rely on the Vox Populi to vote in better leadership.
Because the one thing I'm not going to do is use the power of the purse to defund the military.
I can't do that because that makes it even worse.
That exacerbates the issue.
unidentified
Congressman, if I may for a second, I'm just a lonely grunt, but even I know that Congress has to authorize the promotion for a lot of our top leadership.
Yes.
So can't you guys stop promoting these far left officers to positions of power?
wesley hunt
So here's the problem.
Here's the problem, sir.
So when these are these are a lot of these officers and there's two in particular, I'm not going to name them right now on the show.
They don't present themselves as being far left generals.
They present themselves as being military practitioners and tacticians of their craft.
And then when they get under a liberal leader, they then adopt the liberal behavior.
Let's talk about the way Milley was under Trump juxtaposed to the way Milley was under Biden.
He was two different generals.
Now, does he have the knowledge to be a good warfighter?
Sure.
But now he's adopting the leadership qualities of this current administration.
And that's why it's going to hell in a handbasket.
And by the way, if he steps up and says, no, Biden administration, I am not going to be a woke general, then he'll just find somebody to fill his role.
And then we as Congress have to choose between a finite number of four star generals.
There aren't very many of them.
And so when you look at a four-star general that served, maybe even as my general growing up, and they've been around for 30 years serving the country, and the only thing that they want to be is, you know, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, or they want to be head of the Army, Navy, you name it.
It doesn't matter what that is.
We don't have that many four-star generals to choose from.
That's why whoever the leader is, whoever our Commander-in-Chief is, is so important because then they will follow that leadership directive, not one of a woke administration.
Keep in mind, the military serves at the pleasure of the President.
That's it.
That's our goal.
That's it.
The Commander-in-Chief is our boss.
And that's exactly where it starts.
unidentified
Unless it was President Trump, and then they just lie.
wesley hunt
Well, some... Some lie, but not all of them lie.
And then also, I will say this too, when you start changing the tone of the country and we start realizing that our recruiting numbers are down tremendously, why is that?
Because the people, the young 18 year old that wants to go serve the country, they don't give a damn about gender identity.
They want to go fight.
So you dissuade them from entering the military, then now we're having bigger issues.
Then the country has to refocus the idea of what it means to be an efficient war fighting force.
And I think we're on the precipice of this right now.
Don't worry sir, it's dark right now, but it's going to get better.
unidentified
I just feel as though making Promotions based on politics and having to cater to politics is a bad thing and should be done with a board.
wesley hunt
It's a fundamental problem.
Well, well, there actually, there is a board, but, but, but again, and I don't know how many four-star generals there are three or four-star generals.
They are, but there aren't many of them and that's, we have to choose from, but then they follow the directives of that administration.
Does that make sense?
unidentified
Yeah.
wesley hunt
And so we need to change this administration is what I'm getting at.
hannah claire brimelow
I think a lot of people feel that way.
wesley hunt
That's it, right?
That's it.
hannah claire brimelow
As of May 26, 2023, there are 39 active duty four-star officers in uniformed services.
wesley hunt
Put that in perspective.
unidentified
39.
hannah claire brimelow
13 are in the Army, 3 in the Marine Corps, 10 in the Navy, 12 in the Air Force, 1 in the Coast Guard, 2 in the Space Force, and none in the Public Health Service Commissioned Corps, which makes sense to me.
wesley hunt
And that's what we got.
That's it.
hannah claire brimelow
That's crazy.
wesley hunt
But the good thing is this, even if you look at Lloyd Austin and Millie, these guys came up in the old school.
So the way they were trained and what they know and how things were are way different than the behavior that they're displaying right now.
So they know better.
They're just catering to their boss.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
Because they want the position.
wesley hunt
Bingo.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
The other fact that I'm seeing here is there have been 256 four-star generals in the history of the United States, which how many bureaucrats are in Washington in comparison?
You got it.
wesley hunt
You got it.
hannah claire brimelow
It's crazy.
tim pool
Was that satisfactory, good sir?
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
Right on.
wesley hunt
Thank you for calling.
You too.
Thank you for calling, sir.
tim pool
Thanks for calling in.
wesley hunt
And thank you for your service.
unidentified
You as well.
wesley hunt
Yes, sir.
serge du preez
All right.
Cheers, my friend.
And last but not least, we'll talk to Xander.
Xander, how's it going?
unidentified
Good evening, Representative.
It's an honor to speak with a man of your caliber.
Oh, wow.
wesley hunt
Thank you.
unidentified
My question for you is, January 6th, that ended with a lot of political prisoners, and I was wondering what you as a representative either are doing or planning on doing to help these American citizens whenever they need their rights the most.
wesley hunt
So, what we're finding out about January 6th, and the most disturbing thing that I found out a couple of weeks ago, was that they're not releasing some of the footage from January 6th because they had embedded amongst the population undercover FBI agents.
serge du preez
Oh wow, what a shocker.
wesley hunt
What a shocker, right?
The weaponization of the FBI, the ATF, the CIA, these three-letter agencies, or actually on the Judiciary Committee, we're trying to get to the bottom of this.
And I think we need to start from the bottom up, scrap every single bureaucrat possible, fire these people, figure out people that actually want to do the job for this country, this is a meritocracy, and hire them and get rid of all of them.
That's actually what needs to start happening yesterday.
In terms of the political prisoners that were literally meandering around the Capitol like I do and are currently serving in prison, they should be released yesterday.
They should be released yesterday.
End of discussion, which is actually the majority of them.
It's actually the bulk of them.
When I was growing up, sir, my dad had kind of a rule.
You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.
You break the law, you go to jail.
You don't break the law, you shouldn't go to jail.
But by the way, if you choose to actually break the law, then you don't get to blame somebody else for a grown adult breaking the law.
So, when I look at a lot of people blaming President Trump and other people for grown adults that broke the law, well, that's not President Trump's fault.
That's not the devil-made-me-do-it argument.
That's utterly ridiculous.
That's your personal responsibility.
President Trump, during the town hall a couple weeks ago, said it perfectly.
There are some people that probably did some things that they shouldn't have been doing.
Should they be deemed domestic terrorists, though, and detained for this long without due process?
Of course not.
That's ridiculous.
Also, when you deem somebody a domestic terrorist, you take away their right to literally be a citizen.
So we have people that have basically committed murder that are being punished far less than basic trespassing.
seamus coughlin
Well, exactly, and if someone who was on trial for murder, if someone was on trial for murder, and there was footage of them killing somebody, and they were being treated as poorly as the January 6th defendants were, lefties would be crying about the human rights violation.
wesley hunt
Yes.
tim pool
A man shoved a woman into a train a couple days ago, and paralyzed her permanently, and she is near death right now.
AOC hasn't said a word as far as I- well, to be fair, maybe she has, I didn't see it.
Jordan Neely threatens to kill a bunch of people on a train, and three men subdue him, and she wants that guy locked up.
These people are evil.
wesley hunt
They're evil.
So you saw the shaman was released, right?
Y'all saw that?
Yes.
tim pool
He was released.
The police are on camera escorting him!
wesley hunt
Escorting him through the capital!
And actually, there's some that didn't make the news.
He was the highest profile one, but there have been actually a lot of people that have been exonerated, actually.
hannah claire brimelow
Funny that the news is not talking about that.
wesley hunt
They're not talking about that.
hannah claire brimelow
When they get convicted, they're happy to talk about it.
When it could serve them to, when they go to apply for another job, to have their name next to an exoneration headline.
wesley hunt
The shaman is the only one that we saw locally, but there's actually more.
seamus coughlin
But there's many more.
wesley hunt
There are many more that are still imprisoned that should not be in prison.
tim pool
We should get the, uh, we should get this guy on the Culture Wars podcast.
unidentified
We should.
hannah claire brimelow
That'd be cool.
serge du preez
Be good to talk to him.
tim pool
Yeah.
He's just walking around.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
And they're trying to open the door for him and they're like, then he just follows the cops.
The cops bring him where- And then what happens?
wesley hunt
Tucker gets fired.
tim pool
Yeah.
serge du preez
Yeah.
wesley hunt
It's fascinating to see what we're happening.
tim pool
I think the one thing that needs to happen for these people is Trump gets elected.
wesley hunt
Yes.
tim pool
And it kind of sucks to say, hey, maybe in a year and a year and a half, two years, there may be something that gets done about it.
But I don't know that a four seat Congress.
wesley hunt
No, we can't.
Yeah, we can't.
But I can tell you this again, Jim Jordan.
House Judiciary Committee.
We have already had hearings about this.
We are already raising attention to this, and that's actually what we can do, sir.
So when we start talking about the actual footage and we start looking at people, this person didn't do anything, this person didn't do anything, and the lawyers are actually able to point that out, that's what we can do is bring enough attention to the issue where people actually see the footage as to who broke the law and who did not, and then we can get those people that are clear bystanders released.
Now, the next step is to get those that deserve due process.
That's the next step.
And I think you're right.
tim pool
So we're not going to get to that until... Trump could sign, just stamp, stamp, stamp.
And I think his answer was good on the town hall.
It's like, and Don Jr.
mentioned this, after Jan 6 went down, nobody had the details.
There's no way in a couple of weeks to figure out exactly what happened.
And then by the time we figure it out, it's too late.
So, it's unfortunate, but I think Trump gets elected and he just goes stamp, stamp, stamp, stamp, stamp.
wesley hunt
We'll go through my person and it's over.
tim pool
Bumbling dottards who are just confused and the cops open the door for him.
seamus coughlin
Well, this is something we talked about on the show about a year ago.
A man was actually ruled by a judge to be innocent.
The judge dismissed the case.
He said, there's footage of him speaking to a cop.
tim pool
And the cops fanning him in.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, and you know, I remember not long before that, the Young Turks was trying to dunk on you, saying, oh, Tim says people are innocent in this case when they saw a glass was broken
as if a broken window in one part of the building meant everywhere all throughout
the building knew that a window was broken.
And then a court of law in Washington, D.C. not MAGA country.
tim pool
I was right.
seamus coughlin
In Washington, D.C. says, who do you know?
We cannot lock this guy up.
Police let him in.
We're not even giving him trespassing charges.
tim pool
We've dealt with this.
Trespassing requires a warning.
wesley hunt
Yes.
tim pool
Be it a sign or something.
wesley hunt
Yes.
tim pool
Here you have a public building with open doors and cops saying, come on in!
wesley hunt
They're moving the barricades.
tim pool
Yes.
wesley hunt
So I wasn't in Congress at the time and now I am.
And then now when I look at the barricades and the level of security and the metal detectors and everything that I have to go through every single day, something smells real fishy.
unidentified
Yeah, doesn't it?
hannah claire brimelow
Seems crazy.
wesley hunt
It's actually really weird.
And at the time, even I didn't know how weird it was until I realized that my family cannot... I have basically, it's like a 50-cal round that's a pen.
And one of my staffers tried to bring it up to my office and he almost got tackled.
unidentified
Wow.
Wow.
wesley hunt
Entering Longworth by the Capitol Police.
Wow.
I'm like, so wait a minute.
He couldn't get to my office and then yet thousands of people were just
gallivanting around the Capitol and nobody doing anything about it.
Like, that's actually super weird, by the way.
seamus coughlin
It is, it is.
That doesn't happen.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, Nancy Pelosi said they didn't need extra support, remember?
I mean, the mayor of D.C.
also said, no, no, we don't need any.
wesley hunt
After President Trump called them and told them that I'd be willing to send the National Guard, and she said, no, that's really weird.
unidentified
Which is a weird thing for someone planning an insurrection.
seamus coughlin
It's really weird for someone planning an insurrection.
It's really remarkable to me that the person who was planning an insurrection was in charge.
wesley hunt
Offers the National Guard.
seamus coughlin
This is the man who's in charge of the United States military, and the way he's gonna throw a coup is by dog-whistling to a bunch of boomers that they should walk inside of a building without shooting anybody, without bringing guns or weapons?
wesley hunt
Also, how many rallies had President Trump had amongst these same boomers where they've been completely peaceful and nothing's ever happened?
seamus coughlin
Interesting.
unidentified
Then you get Ray Epps in the mix, and all of a sudden- Like all of them.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, all of them.
Literally all of them.
wesley hunt
Like all of them.
seamus coughlin
How many peaceful antifa rallies were there?
tim pool
By none of them.
wesley hunt
All of them are peaceful.
hannah claire brimelow
Stop asking questions.
seamus coughlin
They were all mostly peaceful.
tim pool
Xander, was that satisfactory?
Is there anything you wanted to add?
unidentified
Absolutely.
Last thing I wanted to add was thank you for taking the time to talk to us, the people, because I believe podcasts like this are the best way to connect and get your head to the ground, to hear what the normal people are saying.
And for a representative such as yourself to be able to come on here and actually hear what we say and ask the questions and answer them firsthand, it helps us to feel more connected that we can make a difference.
wesley hunt
Yes, sir.
You are making a difference.
I've learned a lot today.
Thank you.
tim pool
Thanks for calling in, man.
unidentified
Yep.
serge du preez
Cheers.
Appreciate it.
And, uh, yeah, forward the line.
I agree.
Hold the line.
tim pool
And I'll just say, you know, I think, I think you're fantastic, Congressman.
I think, uh, I'm, I'm, I'm impressed with your, uh, willingness to talk to people come on a show like this.
We have a handful of members of Congress who are willing to do it, but I'm, it's a, it's a white pill moment to see, uh, politicians like yourself or people who weren't politicians becoming politicians, especially with your military background.
Cause it's giving me hope.
wesley hunt
Why can't it be a white pill, man?
Why can't it be a black pill?
tim pool
Because black implies... I'm just kidding.
seamus coughlin
Wait, wait, hold on.
Can I make a joke here?
No, no, no, but let's ask him.
Why does black imply that, Tim?
I don't understand.
wesley hunt
Tim, I'm sorry.
I couldn't let it go.
tim pool
I didn't make it up, Seamus.
seamus coughlin
Wait, wait, hold on.
Hold on.
Hey, excuse me.
What was wrong with being told you were Irish?
unidentified
Which was the Irish pill?
seamus coughlin
Is that a good one?
Is that a bad one?
wesley hunt
No, I totally get it.
And I appreciate that.
tim pool
The more we, we're able to look, we've, we've had some politicians in the past and I'm like, Oh, you can tell.
It's like, they're going to give you the canned response.
They're going to try and play it safe.
It's going to be not as funny.
I'm impressed with some of your answers.
seamus coughlin
So I appreciate you coming out.
I don't have a very good sense of smell, but usually when there's a politician in the building, it's like, But when you were, I had no forewarning.
tim pool
I was like, I smell military service.
seamus coughlin
I was, I was, yeah.
Yeah.
But no, it was, it was honestly awesome having you on man.
unidentified
Yeah.
wesley hunt
I'm happy to do it.
I really do appreciate it.
Y'all talk to the people and if you have a politician, especially in our party that isn't willing to come on here and talk to the people, then something's off.
Something's wrong.
Yeah.
So thank y'all for having me.
tim pool
Thanks for coming on.
And for everybody who's a member, you guys rock.
Thanks for calling in, submitting questions.
Thanks for being members.
And we'll be back tomorrow, but the next members only, of course, is Monday.
So thanks for hanging out.
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