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Timcast IRL - Democrat RAIDED By FBI, Implicated In Tucker Carlson LEAKS w/ALX
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We got a crazy report coming out of Florida.
tim pool
Apparently a media consultant and a Democrat have been raided by the FBI in connection with leaked videos from Tucker Carlson.
Apparently it went to Vice News and Media Matters.
So we'll break this story down and see what we got going on here.
But I just think it's surprising that the FBI went after a Democrat.
I just couldn't believe it.
So maybe this was more embarrassing to them or something.
I don't know.
But we do got a bunch of other news.
Okay, Bud Light has teamed up with Harley Davidson.
I know, it's bad news.
Or, I'm sorry, Budweiser did.
And then Bud Light is sponsoring a Pride event.
So, they're just doubling down.
And, uh, yeah, it's Friday Night, man.
We're chillin'.
We got some leaked audio from a DeSantis fundraiser.
I think that's where it's from.
Was it a fundraiser or something like that?
I don't know.
We'll talk about that.
It's really interesting.
They basically say that once they get into the middle of campaign season, DeSantis is
going to go full moderate.
And safe, legal, and rare on abortion, which I found very, very interesting.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is ALX.
alex alx lorusso
Thanks for having me back.
unidentified
Who are you?
alex alx lorusso
What do you do?
I am a Twitter personality, I guess you could say, but I also am Benny Johnson's executive producer for his podcast, and I just live online, so that's about all I do.
tim pool
Right on.
Well, thanks for joining us.
Should be fun.
We got Taylor Silverman hanging out.
taylor silverman
What's up, guys?
I'm Taylor Silverman.
I work here at Tim Cass on the show Cass Castle, and I also do a bit of traveling around and talking about males invading women's sports because this is something I experienced in women's skateboarding.
And I don't want other girls to have to go through it.
tim pool
And they are!
taylor silverman
A lot!
A lot of stories that people don't know about.
There's a few that everyone knows and countless ones in so many different sports that you wouldn't even expect.
But I'm trying to raise awareness about that and use my voice so we can bring back fairness and equal opportunity and safety for girls.
phil labonte
Hello everyone!
I am Phil Labonte from the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I am an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
And we are here with...
unidentified
It's Kellan.
Back this Friday.
Fridays are the best days.
Good to see you again, Alex.
Yeah, let's get rolling.
tim pool
All right, we got this story from the Western Journal.
Democrat lawmakers' house raided by FBI in connection to Tucker Carlson leaks.
It's crazy.
The FBI searched a Florida Democrat elected official's home.
is connected to leaked materials from Fox News.
They say the federal agency conducted a raid in search of a Tampa home this month, the Tampa Bay Times reported.
The home is that of Tampa City Council member Lynn Hertok and her husband, media consultant Tim Burke.
Carlson has been targeted in a series of selective leaks following his firing from Fox News last month, with leftist organization Media Matters publishing off-air content in which he made off-color remarks.
We have this from Daily Mail elaborating to say, FBI probes hack of Fox News computers, which saw unaired footage from Tucker Carlson's interview with Kanye West leaked to Vice.
Florida media consultant's home is searched as part of the investigation.
So they say, in a May 25th letter obtained by Daily Mail, a federal prosecutor in Tampa, Florida alerted Fox News to the criminal probe into stolen material, including unaired video of Tucker Carlson, who was fired in April.
Actually, I don't think Tucker was fired yet.
I don't know.
He wasn't fired, right?
They just turned his show off.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah.
tim pool
He's still actually an employee.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah.
And that's how they're keeping him kind of, you know, from doing other official shows is by keeping him on contract.
tim pool
So here's the crazy thing about this story.
The FBI raided a Democrat?
Why would they do that?
alex alx lorusso
I mean, I question the motives of the Democrat leaking this, because all of these leaks made him look better and more relatable.
tim pool
Well, no, not these leaks.
A lot of people... Oh, it was the Kanye ones?
Right.
So there's two things to say.
The leaks where Tucker's saying things, you know, while they were prepping the show or whatever, some of them we laugh at and like that's silly and makes no... doesn't mean anything.
Some of them, it will just be negative press.
The Democrats are going to rally around.
But the Kanye West leaks showed that they did edit out certain comments that perhaps they thought would be offensive.
So either way, I don't know.
alex alx lorusso
The Media Matters ones were all hilarious.
tim pool
Yeah, and I think one of them was fake.
I think the one where he said, FU Media Matters, looks like a deepfake.
unidentified
Unfortunately, but... Nowadays you never know.
taylor silverman
Like, the deepfakes are getting too good.
tim pool
We're not gonna know anything.
We're just going blind into the future and...
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, in the next year, the upcoming year is going to be very strenuous on people, I think, because people aren't going to know what to believe.
It's going to, obviously, you know, when you hear Joe Biden and Donald Trump, You know, smack talking each other over video games, you know, that's, you know, made up.
But if it's a legitimate, you know, speech that is, you know, similar to something that any of the candidates would say, I can't imagine.
This time next year, that the technology won't beat every single human being.
There might be AI that can pick them out, but I feel like most human beings are gonna be like, I couldn't tell the difference.
That's only in a year, because think about what AI was like a year ago.
Was there even Excuse me.
I don't even think that that we had like a lot of AI stuff that was getting out when it comes to like the images and chat.
alex alx lorusso
The problem is it's training itself.
So the more and the more it progresses, the more real it's going to get.
And the issue is going to be the audio leaks.
Obviously, like the video ones are kind of easy to tell.
But like, say if there's leaked audio and they claim it's leaked audio from like a fundraising event, like, you know, the DeSantis thing, someone could claim that it was leaked audio.
And then, you know, a year from now, you might not know if it's actually real.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
So, uh, this was last year.
I used, I think it was, um, I don't even remember the name of the AI.
I made AI-generated images of Trump, Biden, and Pelosi, and they were grotesque-looking and very fake.
And, uh, posted them to Twitter.
So they're on my Twitter somewhere.
Today, when you go to Midjourney and type in Trump, it's real.
There's no way to tell, it's crazy.
I mean, they've tried, they're probably, as you were mentioning, some software probably could track it down.
I want to read this though in the story, this is interesting.
They mentioned that this guy, Burke, who was being raided, That he's worked for Deadspin and the Daily Beast.
And then there's something interesting I see in this story.
They say, in a legal letter published to Media Matters earlier this month, Fox asked the group not to stop publishing this footage.
The letter doesn't address how they got it, but it says the network did not consent to its distribution or publication, according to a copy of the letter obtained by Daily Mail.
This is copyright infringement.
That's the weirdest thing about this.
They're publishing these leaked videos of Tucker Carlson, but I'm just like, uh, if we record something in the studio, it's our copyrighted material for us to distribute and sell.
If someone steals that and then starts distributing it, they are stealing.
That's piracy.
How has Fox not gone after them and said, hey, they stole this from, this is our stuff.
And, you know, oh, we were going to put out the best of Tucker Carlson bloopers.
It's a blooper and they stole it from us.
I mean, come on, that's got to be, that's multimillion dollar lawsuit stuff.
taylor silverman
Well, the FBI can't deny that that's a crime.
tim pool
Well, I mean, they're raiding this guy.
taylor silverman
Yeah, they're probably left with no option.
tim pool
I mean, actually, yeah, they they went after people during the Napster days.
And people got they criminally charge anybody over that?
phil labonte
I don't recall, to be honest with you.
tim pool
I know that people got sued very heavily.
But I'm wondering how does this not reach that level?
I mean, look, the FBI has raided him.
So it sounds like somebody was hacking something.
taylor silverman
Either a hacking or maybe somebody who is inside the company was distributing it somehow.
alex alx lorusso
That's what I was going to say, is if it was a hack where they gave them access type of thing.
tim pool
Yeah.
phil labonte
I don't see anything about Napster criminal charges.
No criminal charges.
tim pool
But there were criminal charges around a lot of piracy stuff, wasn't there?
Like a few stories?
I don't know.
I think there was Kim.com.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
That was more than just a guy shared a file.
This is a guy running a website for file storage and they were like, yeah, we'll just go after him and raid his house.
phil labonte
Yeah, the FBI just decided they didn't like him.
tim pool
I mean it was the FBI, it was the RIAA or something, MPAA, those uh, Hollywood.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
Went after him.
tim pool
Yeah, and then New Zealand Special Forces like storm his house.
It's the funniest thing because whenever this stuff happens, like with Roger Stone,
it's like, dude, you can knock on the door.
Like, what do you think's going on with these guys?
phil labonte
Yeah, you can definitely knock on the door, but that depends.
That's the discretion of the of the, you know, the particular law enforcement agency on the ground.
Usually they'll decide if the person is if they consider the person dangerous or not.
And then that decision is probably going to be colored.
Well, actually, Not probably.
That decision is definitely going to be colored by politics nowadays.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah, I think it was kim.com who actually sued them and won money back from the government because they had helicopters and everything and it was just way overkill.
tim pool
Yeah, and it's just like, there's nowhere to go.
He's got this compound in New Zealand, you just drive up and there's like one road.
And then you just walk in.
Yeah, it's the craziest thing.
I'm surprised they're actually going after a Democrat on this one though.
I don't even think the story's that big.
Like, of all the things they could go after, they go after this?
phil labonte
I mean, this could be a... I'm such a conspiracy theorist now that I'm just like, well, it could be a cover for something else.
They're like, well, pick him up for something, you know, just get him off the street.
They could be mad at him about whatever, about something I, you know... I have so little faith in the validity of anything the government says nowadays.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah.
phil labonte
Which is annoying, but...
alex alx lorusso
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm reading these and it's just like, obviously the Kanye ones are bad, but again, I question why they would leak the funny ones.
tim pool
Then what's the motivation for the FBI to bother with something like this?
alex alx lorusso
Well, there's always they could have got a tip and they had to follow up on it.
phil labonte
That's not true.
tim pool
They don't follow up on tips.
Come on.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, if you're like a pro lifer and you decide it was high level, though, like if it was for Fox News and, you know, they could publish a story about it.
tim pool
You know, I've had, what have we been, swatted 15 times last year?
Yeah, they don't rightly care at all about any of this.
phil labonte
And the feds are supposed to be involved with like swatting stuff, right?
tim pool
Well, it was cross state lines.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
So, yep.
Yeah, we had multiple departments.
We had like four law enforcement agencies.
I think the postal investigative service or whatever was involved because people were mailing stuff.
alex alx lorusso
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
Yeah, and they don't know anything.
So.
alex alx lorusso
This is an R. Yeah.
tim pool
Yup.
taylor silverman
It's been a while since the last one, though.
Like, knock on wood.
unidentified
Since the last one?
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
I wonder why it stopped.
phil labonte
I feel like that is a tempting fate, Tim.
alex alx lorusso
I know, I'm like, I wouldn't say that.
tim pool
Well, like, we have security, and we work with local law enforcement, so it's just... Yeah.
taylor silverman
At this point, they've got to know what to expect when they come here since it's happened so many times.
tim pool
Well, they don't come here anymore.
Like, they don't come here like it's a raid.
You know, it's usually liaising with security and then sweeps and things like that.
But like the first time they came, they were like, we're coming in the house and you can't stop us, even though we told them not to do it.
And that was really annoying.
And then they made up some lie about exigent circumstances or something like that, which is just not true.
phil labonte
Yeah, the only thing that I can see, you know, the only thing I see in this Tucker Carlson story or the Raid story is they're just trying to get more information, I guess, trying to pick up stuff.
I don't think they even, they didn't arrest him, right?
And they just raided his house for information.
tim pool
I mean, we don't rightly know exactly.
I don't know.
I guess that's it.
That's the story.
Okay.
unidentified
That's so bizarre.
tim pool
Right.
unidentified
Well, let's talk about Budweiser from the Daily Mail.
tim pool
Budweiser teams up with Harley Davidson for very manly new advert as owner of Anheuser-Busch tries to recover from Bud Light backlash over marketing campaign with trans influencer Dylan Mulvaney.
Let's show you how manly you are.
Let's play the video.
You guys ready?
phil labonte
Yeah.
unidentified
The greatest legacies are built with grit and resilience.
One detail at a time.
Limited edition Budweiser Harley-Davidson cans.
For those who give everything to their craft.
tim pool
Why though?
Why?
taylor silverman
I don't know about you guys, but I'm feeling manlier already.
unidentified
Limited edition?
I'm sold.
alex alx lorusso
It's almost like parody, like the way they're doing it, like the voice and everything.
I'm like, oh my gosh, who's honestly gonna buy this?
taylor silverman
In an effort to please everyone, they've made everyone hate them.
tim pool
But do you want to buy the can and then put the can on the wall or something?
alex alx lorusso
It's so bizarre and it's it's funny too because it's like I wasn't really one for boycotts and I was kind of like a like a Budweiser guy when I drank beer and this is like the first boycott I've like kind of taken part of and like it's been successful and it really makes sense why it's successful is because you know those are the types of people that are you know drinking beer or whatever.
And, you know, when you see these other companies like Nike or whatever, they can afford to lose, you know, people who pay attention to politics.
Half the country, you know, doesn't really care.
And they're going to say, I like, you know, LeBron James or whatever, I'm going to buy his shoes.
But like Bud Light or Budweiser it's gotten like a lot of people's attention.
I saw like Clay Travis had like the cooler challenge type thing where he had a mixture of beer and then at the end of the night he opens it and it's like full of Bud Light because it was like those are the only beers that people didn't take.
So it's just become- So he bought Bud Light?
Yeah, right?
I guess.
I don't know the whole story of where the sourcing came from.
tim pool
Well, it was free, though.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah, he could have gotten it for free from Memorial Day.
taylor silverman
Was he doing it, like, as a social experiment to see if people would take it?
alex alx lorusso
I don't know if it started off that way, but... Or he just realized this?
He posted on Twitter, just like the cooler... I don't know if it was like a cookout or whatever he was at, but yeah, it was like the cooler before and then after, and it was like, only Bud Light left.
tim pool
This is a desperate attempt because Memorial Day is here.
taylor silverman
Yeah.
tim pool
And so it's also been like a very slow day also, people can probably tell, because everybody's getting ready to just take off and go on their Memorial Day three-day holiday or whatever weekend.
But I kind of could sense something like this was going to come because Memorial Day is the danger zone for Bud Light.
People are going to be grilling, people are going to be hanging out, they're going to go to the lake, and this is when they're like, we need to move product.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And this was the best they could do.
So, I got bad news for you guys, though.
This doesn't make Budweiser manlier.
It makes Harley Davidson gayer.
And that's fine.
Like, look man, if you are a man who likes to have adult relations with other men and ride motorcycles... No, I mean it seriously.
I got no beef.
That's totally fine by me.
Live your life, you know?
Be happy.
But Budweiser's brand... I can't believe Harley-Davidson was like, let's get in on that.
Because people are making meme videos.
There's a video I saw where a dude goes to the store and he's, like, buying beer.
And then this other guy grabs a thing of Bud Light and he goes, you're buying Bud Light?
And the guy goes, well, look, man, I don't care about the politics.
I've always drank Bud Light.
He's like, oh, OK.
Then he grabs a case, looks over, and the guy bends down to tie his shoe, and then his pants reveals he's wearing a thong.
And the guy's like, OK.
And he puts the Bud Light back and then grabs something else.
So good.
But my point with mentioning that is that people are Bud Light is a meme now.
It is, it is like, you cannot save the brand.
All you can do is taint anything else.
phil labonte
Yeah, I think, I think you're totally right.
And I also think that there's, there is the, the sense from the average person that if they buy Bud Light, they're engaging in politics.
You know what I mean?
It's like they had, most people that want to, you know, just go to the bar and have a beer with their friends or go shoot pool or go to the game, whatever, they're actually trying to avoid politics.
And if they buy Bud Light, they're going to feel like they're engaging in it.
And that's something that is not easy to get rid of.
And it's definitely something that Bud Light doesn't, or that, you know, Bud doesn't want.
The Harley Davidson thing?
It's not gonna move the needle because people are still gonna feel like if I buy BUD and support, I'm engaging in politics.
If I don't buy it...
I'm not engaging because there's a bunch of other beers.
But if I buy Bud, then I'm saying I support this.
tim pool
There's nothing they can do to salvage the brand.
Like, there's no ad campaign where we're gonna be like, oh now it's okay.
It's literally just them coming out and apologizing, but they definitely will not do that.
They're going to do something like this.
And Harley Davidson, I mean, I gotta ask, is it big?
Is Harley big?
I don't understand what the point of this is.
phil labonte
With bikers, yeah, still, I think so.
I mean, if you're into motorcycles, especially like the cruiser style, I think that Harley's probably still the name that people are kinda into.
tim pool
Well, here's what you do.
When you see a dude in a Harley, you go, woo, pride, yeah!
And then you walk up to the guys on the bikes and just be like, I'm so happy that you guys can be together.
taylor silverman
Do you think this is gonna taint?
phil labonte
South Park's already... Between this and South Park?
unidentified
South Park did that episode!
phil labonte
Everybody, you know, everyone remembers that South Park episode.
alex alx lorusso
South Park is the new Simpsons.
phil labonte
Close to it, but that's, I mean... Well, they're both pretty old.
Between the two of them.
alex alx lorusso
Well, yeah, but I just meant, like, prediction-wise.
tim pool
Oh yeah, and then South Park even had that episode.
Simpsons did it.
I'm just... I'm just... I...
Did marketing people at Harley-Davidson think at all?
Target's stock is free-falling.
I wonder if they did this deal in advance.
They had to print the cans.
alex alx lorusso
I was going to say, it takes time to print cans.
tim pool
It's been two months.
taylor silverman
That could have been decided a year ago that we're going to do it this holiday weekend.
tim pool
Could you imagine Harley-Davidson executives calling up Budweiser and going, no, no, no, no, we're done.
We don't want to do this.
And they're like, no, you can't get it.
No, you're here now.
We got you.
alex alx lorusso
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Has there been an update on the VP or the marketing exec that was on leave?
tim pool
There's two that they put on leave.
unidentified
No updates though?
No.
tim pool
I don't know.
Budweiser's down a bit.
Not as bad as Bud Light.
But a bunch of the brands are down.
The reason I think that the...
The reason this boycott worked, and this is great because this is the watershed moment, this is the ignition point, is that it's perishable.
So that means it has to move from shelves quickly, otherwise it gets trashed.
If you get three days of people not buying something, Then immediately they're going to be like, sales report, it's down.
People are throwing away cans.
Then it's going to hit the news cycle again and it's going to stay in the news cycle.
With Target, it's more difficult.
With Disney, it's more difficult because people could boycott it for three days and then come right back.
You might not even notice.
Or they could totally boycott it and you're not going to get any news for three months until the next quarter when they do reports and stuff like sales reports or subscriber reports.
Target might not feel it right away.
taylor silverman
Well, Target's got perishable goods too.
They sell groceries.
tim pool
Yeah, but if 80% of people keep shopping at Target, they're going to move that product.
What happened is Bud Light's perishable, and people noticed right away nobody was buying it.
Stores started to panic, and then it hits the news again.
Wow, these stores aren't selling Bud Light.
Once it gets back in the news, more people start asking why.
That causes the news to ripple, and the meme to ripple.
Then the stock tanks.
Now we've created the Bud Light effect, which is probably the most powerful tool.
When Target faces a boycott, it doesn't matter if it's sales.
What matters is shareholders get scared that they're going to go the same route as Bud Light.
And if Bud Light tanked, after everyone said, no, Bud Light's great, Anheuser-Busch is gonna do great, if it's still tanked, then you're sitting on Target stock, you're gonna be like, nah, I better not have this.
I'm not giving you any advice.
I'm not telling you what to do.
I'm just saying.
I'm sure a lot of people were like, Whether you know or not that target stock will go down, why wait?
Like there's no positive news, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So if I'm looking at my stock portfolio and I've got, let's just do a hypothetical, $100.
I'm like, the negative news is not going to make the stock go up, is it?
It may make the stock go down.
I'll sell and hold on $100.
Yeah.
Sell the stock, hold the cash, wait to see what happens.
Then that triggers a sell-off.
The sell-off creates a self-fulfilling prophecy and then...
So anyway, back to Harley-Davidson.
I'm wondering if they're going to get it, because someone told me this the other day.
We were talking about it and we didn't, you know, I don't know.
Is Harley-Davidson publicly traded?
phil labonte
I do not know.
tim pool
They are, and they're currently up 0.52%.
They're up 1.26% in the past five days.
I gotta be honest, man, I would not be surprised to see Harley Davidson stock take a hit when this news breaks.
That being said, the news is breaking on a Friday.
phil labonte
Yeah.
alex alx lorusso
And a holiday weekend, too.
tim pool
Memorial Day weekend.
Everybody's already gone.
Like, I don't even know why we're here, to be completely honest.
We're not going to be here on Monday.
But I was like, I guess we have to do something.
phil labonte
We can hang out, you know?
You were talking about the Target stock and stuff.
I saw Clint tweeted this earlier from Liberty Lockpot.
More than 60 civil society groups are now demanding that all businesses cease Twitter ad buys because Musk had the audacity to let Ron DeSantis announce his presidential run on Twitter.
And it's because of the ESG DEI stuff?
If you've got what are ostensibly capitalist organizations pressuring um, other organizations to stop buying ads because of
unidentified
politics.
phil labonte
Uh, I imagine that the ESG and DEI stuff that incentivize target to do the things like having the pride, you know,
the pride stuff every year.
I feel like that is gonna be, I feel like people are going to start taking notice of that, taking notice of the ESG
stuff because it's, it's already something that you hear kind of rumbling.
I saw something on CNBC, they were doing basically a hit on it and discussing the benefits, and I think that that could be Something really, really good for the right, basically.
Because it's better than boycotting one company.
It gets people to focus on what is basically social engineering of the capitalist system, you know?
And that has been such an effective way to get compliance from corporations and stuff like that.
And that's, honestly, I think the most important thing to focus on if you're looking at boycotts or whatever you want to hit companies in the pocketbook.
Look for companies that are making ESG and DEI commitments.
tim pool
So, I've got an announcement for everybody.
The message Bud Light has for you is that if you drink their beer, you are gay.
And I'm not being tongue-in-cheek.
Bud Light sponsors Cincinnati Pride Parade after Dylan Mulvaney controversy.
The reason why I say it that way is After the controversy already put Bud Light in this position where they were viewed as a beer for the LGBT community, Bud Light decided, you know what, whatever, double down, sponsor a Pride event.
And that's fine, they're allowed to do whatever they want, you know, whatever.
Just like, I think they've decided, you know what, embrace it.
Just go right with it, they are officially the beer for the LGBT community.
I don't know why you're laughing.
That's the route they're going.
I respect it.
You know why?
When they sponsor Dylan Mulvaney and try and hem and haw and play this stupid game of no, no, oh wait, no, we didn't mean it, but not actually apologizing, not actually saying anything.
I'm just like, dude, you can't have your cake and eat it too.
You can't make a Clydesdale commercial with 9-11 stuff in it and then do this stuff at the same time.
So then they lie low for a little bit.
Then they sponsor Pride.
They're basically coming out and being like, this is the route we've decided to go.
We want to be a niche beer for a small community.
And I can respect it.
I think they're looking at their brand and they're being like, Bud Light's done.
Let's pass it on to this community who likes it.
And make money with a core base that's substantially smaller than the general market.
And then focus on something else.
I do think it's funny that Budweiser sponsored, or was sponsored by, or partnered with Harley Davidson, because they're like, okay, here's the plan.
Budweiser is manly and Bud Light is gay.
alex alx lorusso
I see what they're doing there.
tim pool
It's not a joke!
I don't know why you're laughing!
It's just literally what they're doing.
phil labonte
Look man, load the bases, right?
Get everybody out there.
Load the bases.
tim pool
Oh yeah, this is a picture?
phil labonte
And then all you gotta do is hit a single and you're making money.
tim pool
They talk about how they're doing the camo cans or whatever.
alex alx lorusso
I saw that.
tim pool
For veterans.
But then they go and do this and it's like, I don't think they, look dude, they don't care about you.
They don't care about you, they don't care about your values.
They're just like, I don't know man, we want to make money.
So this is it.
This news, this is what, because it's coming out today, right?
alex alx lorusso
I think so, yeah.
tim pool
This news is breaking?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, on a Friday?
So we're after hours?
I gotta, look man, I think their stock is gonna drop bad.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
tim pool
If their stock already took a major hit from this, and they double down, I can't imagine how their stock recovers.
phil labonte
You're talking about Bud Light, right?
tim pool
Anheuser.
phil labonte
Anheuser, yeah.
tim pool
Anheuser in general.
But again, it's not even so much as to whether or not this will impact sales.
It's that you have a major scandal, major scandal, people stop buying, stock drops.
Then, as the stock is going bad, you engage in the same practice that resulted in the boycott in the first place.
I have to imagine anybody holding Anheuser stock at this point going, oh man, I tried to hold out, and just sells.
I wouldn't be surprised if their stock drops by like 15 points in the next few days.
alex alx lorusso
And the Memorial Day rebate, too, it's even worse when they're basically giving away free beer because it's more expensive to, you know, send it back and throw it away.
phil labonte
The rebate's hilarious.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah, it is the most comical thing ever because people were joking about it.
They're like, we can't give it away for free at this point.
And then two weeks later, it was an actual campaign.
So it's beyond comical.
phil labonte
It's pretty funny.
taylor silverman
I think it does make more sense to just pick a route and take it, though, than to try to please everyone, because then there's always going to be the group who's like, well, I don't like that they're doing the Pride stuff, and then there's going to be the ads that are like manly men that are going to clash, and it's never going to please the whole customer base.
phil labonte
There's been, for the longest time, for a significant portion at least of my life, there has been an incentive for companies to avoid politics.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah.
phil labonte
Because then you're, you know, Michael Jordan said it best, Republicans buy sneakers too.
That's the way it was from the 80s, 90s.
Pardon me?
taylor silverman
It really shouldn't matter either.
It's crazy to see how many big companies are deciding to make that like a forefront of their advertisements.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, I think it's because of the ESG stuff, because the point is, if you're a stakeholder, they call it stakeholder capitalism, if you have a stake in these companies, if you're a stakeholder, Even if you lose money on this particular investment, there are opportunities that will be made for companies that have a high enough ESG score.
So you may lose money here, but down the road, there will be opportunities.
And essentially, what it seems like it's going to turn into is a way to lock people out that don't have a high enough ESG score.
It's a social credit system, but for companies.
So if you don't have a high enough ESG score, you don't get the opportunities, you don't get the chance to bid on this contractor, you don't get the chance to do this job, you don't get the chance to do this.
So whereas there might be companies that lose money in the beginning when they do something that's unpopular, over time It's fine because companies that don't play along will be shut out.
So it's a social credit course starting with companies and it'll eventually move down to the population because there are people that have been unbanked, kicked out of the banking system and stuff.
That is a real thing.
It is straight-up Maoism coming to America.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah, they already lost, like, points on their- their corporate equality index thing, it says.
Was- Anheuser did?
Uh, yeah.
They had a perfect 100 score and, uh, they- it doesn't say what it's decreasing to, but they got a letter from the human rights campaign saying that it's- they're going to decrease their score.
tim pool
Wait, the Human Rights Campaign keeps score?
Well, I keep score from now on, too, and it's the America score.
And I give Anheuser-Busch a minus 50.
The worst score you could get, because minus 50 is where we stop for some reason.
taylor silverman
Well, what are they losing points for?
Putting the VP on leave?
alex alx lorusso
The non-apology post?
I think because they kind of distanced themselves, the non-apology type thing, but it was offensive enough to that crowd.
taylor silverman
Well, that's what Target is doing too.
unidentified
They're like, well, just put this stuff in the back of the store.
tim pool
No, he straight up said, hide this from our customers, but then tell everyone else that we're still on their side.
It was like, Amazingly offensive to everyone.
I was really impressed by that.
taylor silverman
That's what I was saying.
They try to please everyone.
They piss everyone off.
tim pool
He wasn't trying to please everybody.
In no sensible reality, would you be like, hey, I'm on your side, ALX.
We're going to put that Benny Johnson book on the floor so nobody can see it.
That's an insult.
That's not defending, you're like, uh, okay.
It's like acting like, it's how you insult someone tongue in cheek, you know?
taylor silverman
So are they being boycotted by leftists now too because of that?
tim pool
You know what I think happened is they said that they had incidents in the South or whatever.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah.
tim pool
Yo, I bet they went into some like very conservative areas and their targets and they put a bunch of pride stuff.
And I bet people walked in and, you know, we hear these stories about confrontations and threats and stuff.
People on the right are like, no, that didn't happen.
I don't think it was conservatives.
I told this to Wesley Hunt the other day.
I think regular people snapped.
I think some dude walked in with his kid down in Alabama or something, his little four-year-old daughter, to get a pack of beer, and he walks in and he sees it, and he's like, what the fuck are you doing?
I got my kid here, man!
And then probably yelled, and I think that's stuff we just didn't see.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah.
Benny did a video yesterday.
He was literally at Target in Tampa yesterday, and it's still right in the front.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
taylor silverman
It probably depends on the city.
tim pool
Yeah, they said in the south.
phil labonte
At the one in Martinsburg.
It's right out front.
taylor silverman
I haven't been there, I've been boycotting.
phil labonte
It was like five days ago or something like that.
taylor silverman
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if it stayed.
I think it was a video on Twitter, I can't remember who posted it, but it was some guy tearing down the Pride sign.
Which, that's not cool, that's vandalism, don't do that.
unidentified
But it was captioned, terrorism.
taylor silverman
And I was like, eh, I don't know about terrorism.
alex alx lorusso
Well, that's what Kasobic posted, the old Summer of Love videos.
taylor silverman
It's because... It wasn't that.
It was a different one.
Well, that's what I was saying.
alex alx lorusso
It was in response to that.
taylor silverman
Yeah.
Because... When I saw those, I almost fell for it that that was real, but I was like, this looks too familiar.
tim pool
Adrienne Curry said, my friend works at Target in Joliet, Illinois, and people freaked out in the store.
Wow, I can see that!
Being from Chicago, and we used to hang out in Joliet periodically.
unidentified
Also, hi Adrienne!
taylor silverman
Come back anytime!
phil labonte
We've had so many killer shows in Joliet, Illinois.
No kidding around.
Seriously.
tim pool
Like, I haven't been there in a very long time.
It's probably been 15 years.
But my view of the people down there are like... They're... I don't know.
How do you describe it?
It's hard to describe.
Without being insulting.
I say this as a term of endearment.
White trashy?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, because like, I'm a South Side... Like, we were South Side white trash-ish.
I mean, we're like a mixed family or whatever.
But like, we lived in this area where everybody was kind of just poor, working class, white people.
And...
I can imagine people in Joliet being like, get this out of here, man.
Like, we have kids.
But I don't know.
Times change.
I don't know what Joliet's like these days.
phil labonte
The Forge in Joliet's a place that we play.
It's awesome.
tim pool
They got a prison down there, too.
phil labonte
Oh yeah, that's where Ink and the Clink is.
That's where the, um, I think.
No, I could be wrong.
No, no.
tim pool
Old State Prison.
Apparently it's really bad.
Yeah, but anyway, the CEO of Target is like, we want to let you all know that we're here, we're on your side, and we still do support you.
unidentified
We're just putting you in the back so that nobody can see you.
tim pool
But what you said, you said the one out here was still in the front?
phil labonte
Yes, well, the one in Martinsburg, and this was a couple days ago, so I'm not sure if the intensity had gotten to the point where they were like, oh, we got to get it out of here.
I don't remember exactly what day I went in there, it was the other day, but it was when I went in, yeah, and they still had plenty of pride stuff.
tim pool
You know, West Virginia, second most Trump-supporting country... Trump-supporting state in the country.
It's not a country itself.
And I gotta tell you, there's a lot of woke stuff in West Virginia.
It's weird.
phil labonte
I really think it's because the companies have, you know, have... I mean, it's...
There is a lot of pressure from groups like BlackRock and like the Human Rights Campaign and all these non-governmental organizations and stuff that are trying to get companies to behave in a certain way.
It's like...
It's as if the Marxist realized that if you go into a society via capitalism, that'll work.
Because that's what happened in China, you know?
China was incredibly poor until Deng Xiaoping opened up markets, and that made China capable of flourishing.
If you don't have some type of markets, You know, it's extremely controlled and trying to decide who can and cannot be successful like that.
There was a billionaire that just went missing last year or whatever just disappeared.
tim pool
But oh, yeah Jack Jack Ma.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah.
phil labonte
Yeah, but they decide who can and cannot do business, but they're still allowed to do business.
And so the CCP decides who's going to be successful and who's not and if you play by the rules then You're in, and that's what's coming to America through ESG.
There will be essentially, you know...
Non-government organizations, possibly even, it might get to the point where it's actually in the government.
tim pool
I think a lot of these companies just think this stuff sells.
They see it on TV, they see it because it's basically a cascade effect, it's dominoes falling over.
One company does it, then other companies are like, this is what's popular, then it gets in commercials, and they're like, okay, everyone's for this.
Then the Bud Light thing happens, and now people are starting to go, whoa, slam the brakes, this is actually bad for us.
But somebody, David, in the regular chat said, we were in the panhandle, Look, man, we went all across the northern part of West Virginia, I drove all the way close to Ohio, and there's a lot of woke stuff.
And the issue is, the average person does not pay attention and doesn't believe you because they don't pay attention, and it's really terrifying.
When, you know, I'll be talking to someone and I'll say, oh, did you hear about insert left-wing policy?
And they'll say, that's not true.
And I'm like, dude...
Please Google it on your phone right now.
Like, the best example of this is when Dennis Prager was on Bill Maher and said that the normative statement of the LGBT community and the left is that men can menstruate, and they all laughed.
And Bill was like, I thought you used to be reasonable.
And it's like, it reminds me of that Kierkegaard, the clown, comes out on the stage and says, there's a fire backstage, they all laugh, and then he says, no, no, seriously, they laugh harder.
That's what Prager was doing on Bill Maher, saying like, they're doing this, and then all the people go, ah, you're so silly, it's so ridiculous.
In West Virginia, they had an all-ages drag show.
I don't care where you are in West Virginia, how does that happen?
And so that actually had me almost considering not setting up business here.
Because I was like, okay, I know that Florida is fighting this.
I don't want to live in Florida.
I've lived there before.
Florida's got great politics right now, but it is not my... I like snowboarding.
I grew up in Chicago.
I like the cold.
I like four seasons.
So I'm not gonna... And Texas, eh.
I don't know if I could do that either.
West Virginia, it hits all the good points.
It's MAGA country.
You got mountains.
You got rivers.
You got lakes.
You got snow.
And I'm like, all right.
And then are they really fighting ESG stuff?
Are they really fighting the wokeness?
To a certain degree, yes.
I'll give a shout out to Riley Moore, who I believe this was the first state that banned ESG at the state level, state contracting.
And then a bunch of other states started following suit.
And he's the treasurer.
So they are.
However, Republicans and conservatives make the mistake of thinking you can win a culture war in a courthouse, in a statehouse.
And what's happening is, in these schools in West Virginia, this is a cult, right?
And I'm talking to family and they're like, well, you say it's a cult and you really should.
And I'm like, dude, They come to schools, and they say they're Christians, they say they're conservatives, and then they start introducing woke books into the school.
Then they get called out, and they say, oh yeah, I'm here for all of that.
They get elected.
Lying and claiming that they're regular old people from good old West Virginia.
And it turns out they moved here recently from cities and they're trying to indoctrinate kids.
And then all of a sudden I'm hearing from parents out in West Virginia like, how come my kids are talking about this stuff?
Because you missed when they moved into your schools.
They are a cult.
They are psychotic.
And I'm not talking about every single liberal.
That's ridiculous.
I'm talking about literally the extremist small faction that are for violence and want to bring all this weird sexual stuff around kids.
They are in your schools.
And I don't care where you live.
If you're not paying attention to your schools, they're probably there.
And you're like, no, I'm in a place.
It's 80.
Look, West Virginia is 86% Trump supporting state.
And I'm in a place where everyone's got Trump signs and the children are being brought these books.
So much so that there was an effort to start homeschoolings and pods to get their kids out because they're like, what do we do?
These people, like they got voted in.
They lied.
We thought they were conservative.
We thought they were a regular family, suburban.
unidentified
Nope.
phil labonte
People don't realize it.
It's in the curriculum.
Like these are all free.
It's all Frearian curriculum.
It's all Palo Freire.
It's all.
It's all in the schools of education so first it goes into the colleges that teach the teachers and then you start pumping out teachers that are true believers that really believe that this is the proper way to educate kids and this is blah blah blah you know this is what this is what kids need to learn and the future it's not so important if they do are good at math because Your cell phone's gonna be with you all the time.
It's not so important if you know stuff because you can look it up.
So what they're doing is teaching kids SEL, social emotional learning.
They're teaching kids how to exist in the society of the future.
How they intend to shape society.
But the part that's in there that people miss is these people have a goal.
They have a Design of society in mind and they're looking to create People a society that will fit into the society that they want to create, you know And most parents don't know so you get kids part of the reason why the
The test scores are so terrible because it doesn't matter if your kids can read well, everything can will be will be, you know, audio to them, like it'll be read to them.
It doesn't matter if your kids can do math because you can just do it on a calculator.
So the few and they also have a there's also a lot of people that think that, like, everything's going to be automated.
So you don't you're not going to have to do any work.
So you have to have other skills for the future.
That's I mean, truckers right now are the largest job for For high school educated men.
If Elon Musk is successful with making cars that really can drive themselves, it's going to be way more efficient in 10, 20 years to have trucks that drive themselves.
So you're going to put how many people out of work?
I mean, Tucker Carlson's already said that if he were in power or in a position of authority, he'd just shut that down.
but they're trying to make the new society by doing it through your kids.
tim pool
And they want you completely incapable.
I saw this clip.
I want to play this clip for you.
I saw this from Isabel Brown on Instagram.
So we're doing a picture in a picture video or we're reacting to a reaction,
but I don't know the original video, but I'm going to play this for you.
unidentified
They don't know how to address an envelope.
They don't know how to read cursive.
She's talking about Gen Z. They don't know how to read a paper map.
They can't get anywhere unless there's a GPS map on their phone.
All I'm saying is if Gen Z takes over the world, it's gonna be pretty easy to get it back.
We're just gonna write our battle plans in cursive on a piece of paper.
tim pool
That actually is a true story.
We talked about it before.
phil labonte
Look at her face!
tim pool
So there's that story where they did the war game and the younger guys lost to the older guys and it was like the older guys wrote their plans on a note and put it in a guy's pocket and wrote it by motorcycle and they were trying to like intercept messages.
People talk about it.
They tell us the specifics.
But Isabel then goes on to mention that You were supposed to teach us.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah.
tim pool
And that's the most brutal thing about it.
That woman, she's telling a joke.
It's fine.
It's a joke.
But the crazy thing is that she would joke about her own failures, a generational failure, and they all laugh.
And I'm like, I get you're joking.
But every joke has its truth.
And you don't genuinely think you will take the world back from Gen Z, you do believe you're handing it off.
But if you really believe that Gen Z is incompetent, incapable, and you're laughing about it, this is us being flushed down the drain.
When did we go, serious question for you guys, when did we go from a nation where we were like, we need to prepare our children for the future, to, you're on your own, I can't believe they can't do these things.
taylor silverman
When we trusted public schools to teach our kids and didn't pay enough attention to see the changes happening.
tim pool
I think that's completely it.
Let's go all the way back to the start.
taylor silverman
It's not just schools either.
I witnessed this happen at a summer camp that I was working at, like a skateboarding camp, where where a few people who are really into this
started like asking kids their pronouns and doing these types of rituals,
like when we would do our intro games and stuff.
Yeah, it's like very, very leftist activists.
And I was sitting there thinking like, why are we talking to 12 year olds like this?
We're supposed to be skateboarding and playing fun, like, get-to-know-you games.
Like, their parents didn't agree to this, and I don't want to be a part of this, and I ended up leaving.
But it's hard to stay in a position like that when the people in control are pushing that.
tim pool
I think- I think this started with public schooling.
I think about why it is that so many- Why does Gen Z not want to work?
There was a story I saw the other day and it said, Gen Z doesn't want to work.
Poll shows.
And I'm like, okay, what does work mean?
Seriously, what does work refer to?
I wake up every day, I work like 16 hours.
Every single thing I do is work.
And it's fun.
I'm having fun.
Everything I'm doing is in the pursuit of some kind of work.
We go skateboarding.
It's like, yeah, we're filming videos, we're launching a show, we're gonna be setting up a park, we're gonna be making things for people to enjoy and to consume and to be inspired by.
These younger people, and it's not just younger people, but it's increasing with the generations, don't want to do anything.
They're nihilistic.
Not all of them, I'm not saying everybody, but there's a lot of them who are nihilistic, they want to lay around, they don't even want to read books, they don't want to watch TV, they don't want to watch movies, they might just put on The Office on Netflix and just sit there.
What happened where people... I'll tell you what I think.
Here's how it used to be.
Dad wakes up and he goes, alright son, off to work, come on.
And he'd bring his kid with him to his, you know, wood shop or whatever, and this is hundreds of years ago, and he would show his son what he did.
And his son would be there and he'd be like, go grab the tools from the shed, and then the kid would watch him do it.
As the kid got older, the kid would get more responsibility from his dad.
And then when the dad was old and was like, I can't do this job anymore, the kid would be like, don't worry, dad, I'll keep the shop running.
And then you get this like, seven generation, you know, woodworking thing and it becomes a big company inherited.
All the kids learning the whole way.
And then at some point we said, I got an idea.
Let's take the kids away from their parents so they don't learn, put them in an institutionalized learning facility for general education, separating them from their parents.
And then they don't work.
When they're in school, they learn general stuff, they play, they take tests.
Well, if you take a kid and their development is tests, guess what they're gonna be good at when they're older?
Reading books and taking tests.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah.
And then they turn into career students, too, because it's like, you're almost expected to go to college out of high school without even knowing what you're going to college for.
And then once you're in college and you're halfway through, you're like, I don't know what I'm going to do still.
And then it's like, OK, I'm going to get another degree and another degree.
And they become career students and they're actually learning nothing of value.
taylor silverman
And just obtaining a ton of debt.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah, exactly.
taylor silverman
That they'll never be able to crawl out of.
tim pool
I'll tell you what I did when I was a little kid.
Since I was alive, my family had computers.
I guess I had, like, my uncle was into it.
My mom got a computer.
We had, like, 2A floppy disks.
We had CompuServe on DOS Shell, or DOS and DOS Shell, eventually.
We had DOS games.
So I'm always using computers.
We had the internet my whole life.
I'm on AOL.
I'm on CompuServe and AOL when I was a little kid.
Parental restrictions and stuff, but I'm, you know, browsing the internet.
Eventually, I'm downloading programs.
I start reading news articles.
I used to go to FARC.com all the time.
Do you guys remember FARC?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, that was good fun.
Man, I was probably like 13 when I'm reading these news stories.
All of a sudden, there I am, skating with my friends, but having read the news all day, and then we would be talking about this stuff, and I'd be like, oh yeah, I read this story.
Here I am, as an adult, quite literally doing very much the exact same thing I've always done.
And I look at what's happening now with the younger generation and what they're being taught.
The moment we separated kids from their parents, that was when the roots were cut.
And you created this domino effect of parents who don't teach their kids, who have kids who don't teach their kids, who have kids who don't teach their kids, and then after a few generations...
It all just crumbles.
And now you've got comedians laughing, being like, Gen Z's so incompetent!
I'm like, you're the ones who were supposed to have passed on the knowledge and capabilities to Gen Z. They didn't do it.
They've all just said, it's someone else's responsibility.
And what we're seeing now is the worst of it.
Where these teachers are trying to indoctrinate kids with this weird groomer stuff.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah, for sure.
And then the thing, too, about like what you mentioned about not enough states fighting back against, you know, the education system, doing that.
You saw the backlash in Florida.
There was a national campaign almost to smear the Don't Say Gay Bill when in actuality it was, you know… The Parental Rights and Education Bill.
Exactly.
And they kept saying the so-called Don't Say Gay Bill to skirt responsibility.
You had people like saying, oh, Ron DeSantis called it this.
It's like, well, no, it wasn't actually his legislation.
And then also the reality of it, it's like you can't like teach toddlers like sexual education and, you know, without their parents' consent.
It's like that was the actual, you know, bill.
And there was a national conversation against it.
And that was just like at a state level.
So, you know, imagine if another state that isn't as red as Florida did that, you know, the national spotlight kind of Make states not want to take it on because it is an uphill battle when, you know, the actual national media get involved in the conversation.
tim pool
When I think about this stuff, it makes me very, very optimistic, because I kind of feel like we're actually coming out of the crisis period.
The stuff that we're seeing, and people waking up, and people saying, homeschool your kids?
Homeschooling your kids is literally what you were supposed to be doing, what humans have always done.
The kids were learning from their parents, and then we got to a point where we had schoolhouses.
I know that we've had schoolhouses for a very, very long time, hundreds of years.
But we got to the point where everything became heavily institutionalized, and then parents started not caring about what their kids were learning, the culture started to fragment, and then you had kids learning weird things, and now we're at the worst point of it, where you got these books like Genderqueer, and This Book is Gay, which is like kink education for children, which should not be in these schools, But now people are starting to reverse course and it's almost like the pendulum swung back and it's starting to go back the other direction.
Like people are starting to say, yeah, we shouldn't have this for our kids.
And if we start implementing pod learning across the board, then the future looks pretty bright.
unidentified
It's also been the economy because you had in the 1950s you had one parent that could stay at the house with the children well and you know it was one salary you could pay for a nice house and a nice safe neighborhood.
Now you have many single parent households and if there are two parent households usually both parents are working.
So these children have You know, they don't have that parent around all the time.
They're sent to public school because it's daycare, you know?
alex alx lorusso
That's what it's become.
phil labonte
The fact that public school has become daycare as opposed to an actual place for kids to go and learn stuff.
Is is is probably the biggest problem the United States is facing.
The fact that parents aren't involved in their kids lives.
I think that that's not just about the whole woke thing, but like there's a lot of crime problems that come from that, you know, kids that don't have Families that whether they be you know whatever you consider a family like I don't have a big strong Has to be a dad has to be a mom.
I think that it's okay if you have two moms or two dads I personally I think it's fine, but you have to have a masculine and a feminine Kind of parent or those roles have to be filled somehow and kids aren't getting that you certainly don't get it from a single mom And I understand there's a lot of single moms out there busting their hump, but it's not easy The media has lied to single mothers telling that they can be a single mother and a CEO of fortune 500 company You know and that's you just can't you there's no way you're gonna have time for both and
Your kids deserve way more time than what you could give if you're working full time.
So I think the problem, the biggest problems that we have are the fact that there aren't people, you know, that parents aren't raising their kids properly.
They're sending them off to school and not taking them to work with them and to teach them to do stuff.
So that's my opinion about the biggest problem is just schools.
tim pool
Yeah, but I think we're taking it back.
I think the COVID thing triggered something accidentally that's freaking out the left in that parents got to actually hear what their kids were being told for the first time, basically ever.
When I hear about these stories out of West Virginia, parents say like, my kid came home and started saying weird stuff.
You know, talking about pansexual and gender stuff.
And then they're like, what's going on?
They're finally now realizing it, but it's too late.
These teachers that got hired, the people that got brought to the school boards, they infiltrated.
But people are waking up to it, and it's causing a shift.
Finally, people are saying, where it used to be, well, look, you know, go to school, and, you know, ignore that stuff.
Now the parents are like, whoa!
This is just too much.
Too much, too fast.
I think we're going to see a very, very positive shift, at the very least.
We may lose our status as this global empire, or whatever.
The reserve dollar may no longer be a thing.
The cost of living may go way, way up.
But the values will, I think, improve.
People will start working hard.
And then it'll be tough for us, but I think our kids will start to have it slightly better.
And then it'll get better from there.
Someone mentioned in the chat that houses used to cost like $13,000.
like thirteen thousand dollars so you have a thirty thousand dollar house and you'd make
something like five thousand dollars a year
you could buy a house you could pay it off Now people are making 30, 40, I think what, 40,000 is the median or 50,000 or something?
phil labonte
Something like that, 40,000.
tim pool
And the average house is what, like 300 or something like that?
So it's multiples harder for people.
I think back to the 70s and stuff, I think Reagan screwed us over heavily.
I don't think it was just him.
I think feminism was, you know, you can never predict this stuff.
Feminism was a huge net positive and a huge net negative in a lot of different ways.
We got to the point where we were wealthy and secure, and so we were like, totally, women can do whatever they want.
We've got tons of people, we've got too many people, we've got so many people, why not?
And then what ends up happening is, now we have no families and we have no homes.
We have houses, homelessness, and we don't have families at all.
So I have to wonder with the Malthusians of the world, if they're not celebrating something like this.
taylor silverman
And women are working and being taxed too.
tim pool
Well, this is what ends up happening.
Now that you have both men and women working, the moment women enter the workplace, like it's around, I think like the early 1970s, instantly, you're an employer, you need mailroom attendant, not a high skill job, anyone can do it.
All of a sudden you have twice as many applications.
And so you're like, we can pay, you know, two bucks an hour or something.
Or I don't know what the wage would have been back then, but I imagine something around there.
And then instead of having men competing, you had just inundated.
Here's the other thing too, if women are less likely to negotiate, A man is at a disadvantage with women in the marketplace because if there are nothing but men, and this is not advocacy saying women should not be working, I'm saying this is a product of what has happened and it's something people should consider.
If there's a job opening, and the only applicants are men, and they compete with each other, and they say to the guy running the company, like, I want more money, and then the other guy's like, you're gonna give him more money, then I want more money, they're all competing, the wages are high, the profits are lower, you bring in women, and they say, I'll take whatever you can give, oh, that sounds good, because they're more agreeable, then all of a sudden, negotiating power of the guy is diminished.
A guy goes in against a, you know, a man and a woman go to a job interview, and they say the job pays $50,000 a year, and the guy goes, I need $60,000.
The woman says, okay.
That's it.
Woman gets the job.
So now you've got lower wages through market forces, twice the workforce, and now you've got no one focusing on family and the home.
Whatever the solution is that, I'm not saying I know, and I'm not saying that, uh... I am not advocating against women working, I think that's a good thing.
I'm just saying, consider that, and then we have to recognize where we're going from here.
Jordan Peterson got a lot of flack when he said, um, it's been a disaster.
Men and women working together.
And Vice asked him, what does he mean?
He's like, sexual harassment lawsuits, like crazy, look at all the stuff that's going on, women are getting abused!
It's like...
Okay, well that's interesting.
I don't know what the solution is though.
I wonder if the only result that is possible is that we become a much more traditional country.
That if you cannot maintain this level of luxury, security unless you have strong moral values and family
then it will fall and then when it invariably becomes less prosperous, more
dangerous, then you'll start to see those who succeed in these environments
are going to be more traditional.
taylor silverman
That's a good direction to head in.
I think if women want to work, they should be able to, but it definitely is positive for families for someone to be home raising children.
And obviously that's not something everyone can do right now.
Like, I'm here, but I would like to go in that direction once I have kids.
tim pool
Yeah.
phil labonte
You're on your way to getting married, so.
tim pool
Yeah.
taylor silverman
I got engaged, guys.
phil labonte
You're getting there.
tim pool
Well, there you go.
taylor silverman
In the meantime.
tim pool
I don't know.
I think we're gonna have our dark days.
taylor silverman
It kind of had to get worse before it got better, though.
It was easy to overlook until there was pornographic material in schools.
You can't ignore that.
phil labonte
I'm not so confident that easy days are around the corner.
Tim might be right in the future.
Closer than ever, though.
I mean, I guess closer than yesterday.
Okay, fine.
But still, I think that there's a lot of ways this can go really, really wrong.
The FDA just approved human trials for Neuralink.
tim pool
Yeah!
Oh, it's coming!
phil labonte
Just yesterday.
taylor silverman
It scares me talking about that.
phil labonte
What happens if Neuralink ends up being, and again, these problems that we're talking about,
people forget that these, this type of problem, like the nuclear war, right,
or the possibility of a nuclear war, that's a forever problem.
Like once the genie's out of the bottle, that's it.
That's a problem that the human race has to deal with forever.
The idea of getting rid of nuclear weapons ain't happening.
Countries are gonna have them.
That's gonna be the same thing with Neuralink once they get it to the point where it works well,
if you can actually simulate a, if Neuralink can simulate reality in your brain, right?
So they plug into your brain, and then this all goes away, and next thing you know, you're like in Tron World or whatever.
That doesn't, they don't put that, you know, power back, or that technology back in the box.
taylor silverman
Yeah.
phil labonte
So that means that everybody that has a Neuralink, for all of time that people have Neuralinks, is at least vulnerable to hacking.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah.
phil labonte
Human beings!
The possibilities that this kind of technology opens up is, it's, most people don't understand how how important it is and how impactful it's going to be on
the human race.
There are people that that are talking about AI on on Twitter and stuff that are
literally just begging Sam Altman to stop.
Constantly, there's this there's this guy.
I forget what his Twitter name is, but he's got a fairly decent size count,
150,000 or whatever.
And he's like, every time I see him tweet, he's like, don't you people realize how
terrifying this is?
Sam, just stop before it goes wrong.
And he's like, all the time.
And these are people that are like in the know, you know?
I'm just a dumb guy that yells at a stick, right?
These people know what they're talking about.
So, I mean, if they're concerned, I think that it's something that we should all be concerned with.
And again, these are not problems that go away.
So we have to come up with solutions that are sustaining solutions.
tim pool
Yesterday, Neuralink tweeted, we're excited to share that we have received the FDA's approval to launch our first in-human clinical study.
This is the result of incredible work.
Blah blah blah.
We get it.
We get it.
Recruitment is not yet open for our clinical trial.
We'll announce more information on this soon.
That's right.
We are getting very close to the point where they're going to ask humans to submit to Neuralink implants.
Now, for the time being, it is read-only.
And that's still okay.
Basically what they can do, what I was reading is that there's very thin like copper wires or whatever that they can lay on like the nerves and then start to absorb information and then decode.
And I think they were able to track like vital signs of pigs or something.
I don't know that they've done any kind of real neural link remote control of a person.
However, organic remote control already exists.
They've done this in cockroaches, I believe, in rats.
What they do with mammals is they can put in an implant which interferes with equilibrium and so they make the animal feel like it's falling over and then it has to run in that direction.
So if you start leaning forward, your body reacts and you try to right yourself up.
It's called balance.
They can manipulate that so you'll feel like you're falling backwards and try and start walking forward to try and counteract it because it's almost painful to try and resist.
It's almost like torture.
phil labonte
Like vertigo.
tim pool
So they can do this.
They can do that now.
With Neuralink, the scary thing is going to be once they get to the point where they can write to your brain.
I don't know how far off that is.
It may be very, very far away.
taylor silverman
So like putting thoughts in your brain.
unidentified
Yes.
taylor silverman
Who is signing up for these studies?
phil labonte
It doesn't have to be thoughts.
All it has to be is just a little bit of serotonin, a little bit of dopamine.
tim pool
They can do that now.
You don't need Neuralink.
phil labonte
Yeah, with phones and stuff.
No, no, no.
tim pool
I mean like they can put an implant in your brain.
You don't need Neuralink to connect and read data from your brain.
We've done it with rats a long time ago.
They did that experiment where the rat could press a button and get a dopamine hit.
And so it's just matching the button.
When I was talking to the guy from White Coat Waste Project earlier, man, the stuff they do with animals is scary.
I don't know, you guys might not want to watch that Culture War episode, because it's like talking about the horrible things they do to animals.
But if you don't like Fauci, you probably should watch it, because it'll make you not like him more.
They talk about how they, yeah, puppies.
I don't even want to say it, man, because people are going to get mad.
But let me just tell you that the psychotic things they do for no reason, it's just like there's evil people just to see.
taylor silverman
It's like mad scientists.
tim pool
I'm gonna say it because we've covered it before and I'm pissed off.
They take beagles, and this is funding under Fauci, and they would put a net around a part of the beagle and then put starved sand flies in it.
So the flies would eat the dog alive.
And it's like, why?
We want to see what happened.
There was one of the stories that we talked about was they put hamsters on steroids and then made them fight.
And I hear that, and I start laughing.
And I'm like, shh, you're kidding.
They spent a million dollars to put hamsters on steroids and make them fight.
I'm busting out laughing.
And then I watched the video, and I got really angry.
Because you're imagining hamsters, and they're buffing them up, and then you watch the video, and it's really grotesque.
taylor silverman
What is their explanation for why they think that is necessary, or what they're saying?
tim pool
Some of it does make sense.
Some of it is like, we are testing a new methodology for treating wounds and something, and we're like, okay, we get it.
But the problem is so much of this stuff is literally just like, please don't fire me, I need a grant.
And so, and the government is funding this stuff.
I don't want to go off on that tangent.
When it comes to the issue of Neuralink, my point is simply that we've done the studies on animals where we can control their brains.
I brought it up because he told me that they did this thing where they hooked up IVs to, I think, monkeys that fed them nicotine.
And then they could press a button to get a nicotine hit.
And it's just like, man, the stuff they can do to people, the stuff they've learned.
When it comes to Neuralink, the moment they can write things into your brain, they can then say to you, Taylor, why are you... So how about I'm being an activist?
You know, wouldn't you rather just go into your own universe where you are X Games gold medalist?
Here, just plug in.
Check this out.
Try it one time.
You plug in, and then all of a sudden, you're in this universe where they can simulate feelings and people, and it's AI generated, and right when they plug you in, they walk up to you and say, you just won gold at the X Games Street Tailor!
What do you have to say to all of your fans?
And you're there.
And you can feel it like you're really there.
So many people are going to say, I give up.
Give me that.
taylor silverman
See, I feel like I'd turn that down.
I like the realness of this.
tim pool
Okay, okay, wait, I'll one-up you.
taylor silverman
But it would feel real.
tim pool
You are on vacation, or let's just say, one day, you're sleeping, and you wake up, everything's seemingly normal, and then you check your phone, and you get an email, and it's like, hey, we're inviting you to the X Games to compete, and you're like, whoa, really?
And then they're like, yeah, can you fly out?
And you're like, yes, and so you go about your life like normal, and you fly out, and then you win, and then what you don't realize is, Tim's making me sound like a way better skateboarder than I am right now.
What you don't realize is that... Or maybe an AI I am.
Because you were disruptive to the ESG machine, while you were sleeping, they plugged you in.
And you never knew.
taylor silverman
I wish this was just a horror movie plot and not a potential reality.
tim pool
And then, here's the best part, when people are like, whatever happened to Taylor?
They'll be like, oh, she went to Metaverse.
Yeah, she totally bought- She's gone.
No, they'll be like, no, she's right here!
Like, you wanna- you wanna see what she's up to?
Like, she didn't go anywhere.
taylor silverman
She's, like, chillin' in a pod.
tim pool
Yep.
taylor silverman
Oh.
tim pool
And they're gonna be like, here, she signed off on- on joining Neuralink, and she's living out her dreams of being the best skater in the world.
taylor silverman
Guys- And people are gonna be like, wow, I can't believe she- If anyone ever says I went into Metaverse, it's a lie, I did not consent.
phil labonte
So this is changing the subject a little bit, but I think James Lindsay is listening tonight because he's he just tweeted something about the Wisconsin LGBT Chamber of Commerce.
This is from 2016.
Harley Davidson is the newest platinum founding member of the LGBT Chamber.
So, I mean, it's, you know, like I said, it's a little old, but, you know, we're talking about ESG and and Harley Davidson.
Well, there's your answer.
tim pool
Yeah, so if you ride Harley-Davidson's, if you're a man who enjoys engaging in adult relations with other men, Harley-Davidson's the brand for you.
It's not supposed to be funny.
You don't gotta laugh.
I mean, seriously, I'm like, that's the brand message they're creating.
And I'm like, that's cool.
Like, I don't know, I got an electric motorcycle, it's fun.
It's too dangerous, though, and that's why I've never used it.
phil labonte
It's fast.
tim pool
Yeah, it's insanely fast, and it makes no sound.
And so it's just like, yeah, I don't know about all that.
taylor silverman
Yeah, you're gonna get his- I'm still laughing about what you said before the show.
phil labonte
What?
taylor silverman
I don't wanna, I don't wanna steal it, but about how this is gonna be great for, like, the Judas Priest lovers.
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
Well, I mean, look- The Judas Priest fanbase.
phil labonte
Not, not, not really.
taylor silverman
I like Judas Priest, I'm not hating.
phil labonte
Look, I'm one of the biggest Judas Priest fans there is, so I'm not judging at all.
But, you know, Rob's got that look.
Yeah, he's like a- You know, he's also got that lifestyle.
taylor silverman
Yeah.
phil labonte
You know, so.
taylor silverman
It's a cool band.
phil labonte
They're one of the greatest heavy metal bands of all time.
taylor silverman
They're into, like, gay motorcycle stuff?
phil labonte
Well, you don't have to be gay to like Judas Priest.
taylor silverman
Of course not!
That, like, that was before everything was all political and pick-a-side and all-or-nothing everything.
tim pool
You know, but the problem is, I think, like, didn't Maynard, he was in drag?
Is that what it was?
phil labonte
Maynard did that in Florida, yeah.
tim pool
They're doing this because they're like, haha, these bigots don't like dragons.
Like, dude, we don't care.
We don't want the kids there.
taylor silverman
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, bro, if you want to do dragons, I don't care what you do.
Like, have fun, man.
taylor silverman
I don't think anyone would have cared if Target would have put out some, like, gay flag t-shirts.
It was when they started making the baby onesies.
tim pool
No, I think the pride stuff would have sparked a negative reaction anyway.
taylor silverman
Yeah, but I don't think it would have been as extreme.
tim pool
I do.
taylor silverman
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, I don't think, I don't, it's the tucking onesies, swimsuits.
taylor silverman
Well, yeah, that's a bit extreme.
tim pool
But the issue is that a guy has got, a man and woman, you know, in their early 30s, have a couple kids, they're young kids, they walk in to go grocery shopping, they see this stuff and they immediately, whoa, turn the kids around and they're like, I'm not ready to explain to my six-year-old kid what this stuff means.
unidentified
Totally.
tim pool
When my son says, what does gay mean?
He's like, I gotta talk about the birds and the bees now?
They're not old enough for this stuff.
We're not putting stuff where it's like...
There may be things, this is what they argue about, there's all this straight propaganda and straight, it's like, dude, a man and a woman together in an ad is not overtly sexual.
Saying, this is a heterosexual couple, above it flashing lights with a flag, now the kid's gonna ask, what does that mean?
The parents might be like, hey, I don't wanna have to explain, like, this is not appropriate for kids.
I think no matter how they would have done it, it would have sparked... Now if it was just a rainbow flag or something, I don't think it would have said anything.
Nobody would have cared.
If they put gay pride and stuff like that in LGBT, then I think families would have been like, this is not what I want my kids to be around.
They're not ready for this.
These parents may not even be against it.
They may just be like, my kid's too young.
I'm not going to shop there.
taylor silverman
I think parents should be able to explain that stuff on their own timing and kids should be able to have their innocence maintained.
They don't need to know everything all at once.
tim pool
That is totally... I don't completely agree with that.
phil labonte
It's totally against the law.
taylor silverman
What do you mean?
tim pool
So there's that video people talk about where those kids are interviewed during like World War II or something, and these like 10-year-old kids sound like they're 40-year-old adults.
Yeah.
Because kids didn't used to get sheltered so heavily from reality.
I do think it's fair to be like, my child is not old enough to learn about sex ed and the birds and the bees.
When it comes to innocence and all that stuff, I'm like, dude, I'm not saying the kids should be in the mines.
They do yearn for them.
Minecraft is proof.
But kids should have jobs.
Children should be working.
And I will say that with absolute vigor and passion.
Because the left will be like, liberals, like, they want kids working.
Yes, I do.
I want seven-year-olds in mom and pop's candy shop.
Picking up the groceries, filling out paperwork, and learning from their parents what it is to have a job and to earn and to engage in commerce.
So when people talk about innocence, I'm like, dude...
Children should be around when parents are talking about some politics.
taylor silverman
I guess I mean the sexual stuff.
tim pool
That's what I said, I somewhat disagree.
When it comes to the birds and the bees, if you're talking about LGBT stuff and you're like, no, my kid's not old enough for this, totally get it.
But if we're talking about Biden, Democrats, war, faith, all that stuff, children should be hearing what the parents think about the current state of affairs.
And kids should be working.
phil labonte
Yes, absolutely.
The children do yearn for the minds.
That is absolutely true.
And there's nothing wrong with what you're talking about.
Kids that are working with their families, I find it Silly to think that it's so objectionable to keep kids with their families working and it's preferable to send them to other people to raise your children.
That is antithetical to essentially how people have raised families and societies have grown for basically the whole of humanity until the past, what, 150, 200 years since the Industrial Revolution.
So I think that alone is A silly starting point.
But you were talking about kids asking questions and stuff.
That's the intent.
The LGBT, the politically queer, right?
The people that have, that are activists and stuff.
They want to have kids exposed to LGBT stuff for the specific reason of to make kids ask questions.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah, planting the seed.
phil labonte
It's called generative issues.
Or they're called generative...
Generative issues, it generates the political conversations that the left wants.
Now, parents having control over what their kids do and do not see means that parents decide when these topics will come up, if these topics will come up at all.
That is something that the left does not want at all.
They want to be able to introduce ideas to kids, to make kids think of these political topics.
And it's bad for kids.
There are certain times where these things can be discussed in the proper context,
but just shoving this stuff, these types of generative issues in front of kids,
whether it be LGBT issues or sometimes more...
What's the word I'm looking for?
Shocking or more negative type of topics like poverty and wealth and wealth inequality.
Kids don't understand, you know, the complexity of why there are some people in poverty and why there are not, you know, why some people are not.
And it's not as simple as just, oh, well, you know, the rich people are bad and the poor people are good, which is kind of the way that the left tends to frame it. So these ideas that the government or
that the schools should be dictating when kids are exposed to these ideas and also telling the
children the answers, right? Like if you have them asking the questions and you put gender
issues in front of kids, that means that the school has an answer that they prefer
that may conflict with the parents, which clearly if you're conservative and you're religious
and they're being exposed to LGBT issues, you would have an issue with the way the public
school is going to get is going to deliver the uh...
You know, the answers to the generative questions.
So it's all bad.
It's great that parents are starting to be aware of it, but the intent is to corrupt the children is essentially what it boils down to.
tim pool
I'd love to do, like, maybe something we can do.
Short films would be really fun.
Exploring the aftermath of so many of these issues.
Because I'm thinking about Neuralink and I'm thinking prisons will no longer exist.
You will no longer have jail.
You commit a crime, you get sentenced to Neuralink supervision.
They say, we're not going to lock you up.
You're not losing your job.
You're not being taken from your family.
You're going to get a Neuralink implant and a suppressor.
And the suppressor will stop you from committing crimes.
And then after three years, we remove the suppressor.
If it's a felony, you keep the suppressor for life.
And it's like, that's due process.
It's like you're sentenced to life of suppression.
And like, what does that really mean?
It means if you start to get angry or aggressive or try and target someone, you'll just stop.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And then you'll see a guy out in the street and he'll see someone, he'll run for the person, just go and slow down and then freeze.
And then it'll pause him for like 30 seconds and then the woman will be like, oh geez.
And then he'll slowly start to go backwards and then be like, ah, no more prisons.
unidentified
Well, not just that.
I was thinking they can either erase memories or write false memories.
So if you commit a crime, They could make you a total commie, or something like that.
Or just completely change who you are as a person.
tim pool
Well, that's even further down the road.
Like, the first thing is, they'll say, we've decided we can save billions of dollars and end prisons and crowding and overcrowding and reform law enforcement and save money by implementing Neuralink sentencing.
You will get people who will agree to it.
They'll say, no one will be forced to do it.
Someone will get convicted unless you have an option of seven years in prison, or you will be free to leave after undergoing a Neuralink implant to prevent the commission of crimes in the future.
And then they're all going to start agreeing to it.
Then you're going to see private prisons going under because they have no inmates.
Then you're going to see the prison government be like, we don't need to fund this prison anymore because everyone's choosing Neuralink.
Then it will become standard.
There will be small sort of prisons, sometimes most people won't take them.
Then eventually it will be absolute Neuralink.
Then you're going to have so many people Neuralinked, not just for that reason, You're gonna apply for a job, and they're gonna say, your qualifications are excellent.
When can you start?
And you'll say, tomorrow, first thing.
Like, awesome!
What's your Neuralink ID, user ID?
Well, I don't have a Neuralink.
You don't have a Neuralink?
I mean, our meetings are on Neuralink.
How are we gonna get in touch with you?
It's like, well, if you get one, but this job requires you have Neuralink.
alex alx lorusso
It's gonna be the new cell phone.
tim pool
Then, once it's ubiquitous, Yeah.
is when you start getting a Twitter-like hive mind program, and then 100 years later, we're all the board,
just marching around in unison, buzzing, and doing, just being the machine.
phil labonte
There's a big part of me that thinks that the reason Elon Musk wants to have colonies
and stuff like that is so that way the whole of the human race doesn't get assimilated.
If there's colonies that are all spread throughout the solar system, then eventually throughout maybe the local region or whatever, then that might possibly protect the human race.
alex alx lorusso
He said that even like with the anti-world government thing at the government summit too, even for, you know, on Earth, not just, you know, multi-planetary.
But yeah, he said like, if something goes wrong in one part of civilization, like, It won't be an entire collapse.
It would be, you know, one part of it.
tim pool
Yeah, but I don't think we're about to start surviving on Mars without assistance from Earth.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah, that's absolutely true.
tim pool
Like, the ecosystem is this, like, planet Earth is sustained by not just what's on it, but the position of it around the sun.
The amount of energy we absorb from the sun and things like that.
I have to imagine that plant life won't grow nearly as well on Mars.
You would have to... you'd have to create artificial light.
But the amount of energy you'd have to generate to then convert... it's almost better just synthesizing the sugars manually, I'd imagine, unless the process plants have the... what is it called?
Well, photosynthesis is the simple version, I suppose, but there's the cycle.
I forget my fifth grade science.
But I just imagine it's...
I can't see us making it on Mars, not without the support from Earth.
Could you imagine agreeing to go to Mars?
It's the fifth generation Mars colony, there's 200 people who live there, a little town, and they're like, you go there, it is possible to come back, but it's like a two-year wait list because it's so difficult, and then you go there and you're like, I'm on Mars for a two-year stint in the colony, it's been here for 50 years, and then you're watching on TV, which the signal takes 20 minutes, a 20-minute delay or whatever, and it's like, Earth civilization has collapsed.
Mars Colony, you're on your own.
unidentified
Oh boy.
alex alx lorusso
Oh my gosh, yeah.
Yeah, I would collapse.
unidentified
There's a show called the, uh...
I forget, it's a space show on Amazon, but they have colonies on Mars and Asteroid Belt.
It's very much like that.
tim pool
You mean the Expanse?
unidentified
Yep.
And they do a good job of explaining that.
tim pool
Yeah, it's cool.
In the Asteroid Belt, I don't know too much about it, people are really tall and thin because there's very little gravity.
So they're just like really tall, lanky people.
Yeah, dude.
But I wonder how time dilation would affect people on Mars too.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah, that's another question, too, because it's like, even with the space station and stuff, people come back with different effects.
So they have to, I think, limit the amount of time they're up there.
phil labonte
Mars has, what, two-thirds of the Earth's gravity or something like that?
It's like two-thirds the size.
tim pool
But it's the speed at which the planet is moving and its gravity affecting how you go through time.
And I think Mars, it's faster?
I could be wrong.
taylor silverman
I am really weirded out by the idea of people going to Mars, because I feel like God, like, perfectly designed things here.
We have water to drink, food grows out of the ground, we have air that we can breathe.
Why would we leave?
tim pool
Well, God made Mars too.
taylor silverman
I was going to say that.
Yeah, but there aren't people there.
No, but- And it's not as sustainable for- Yet!
alex alx lorusso
But there's an argument to be made that he gave us the knowledge to produce things that could get us- That's an interesting thought.
tim pool
I don't think God created the universe and its possibilities to then be like, but there's, you shouldn't.
taylor silverman
There's this other stuff to explore too.
alex alx lorusso
Free will.
tim pool
I can understand don't do immoral things.
But it kind of feels like it's there.
There's nothing amoral or wrong with going there and spreading life.
And, you know, it's like a challenge before humans.
taylor silverman
I guess I just mean I feel like all the things designed here that work to sustain life, maybe that's for a reason.
phil labonte
There's too much out there for down here to be the only place that God wanted people to be.
If they're like, think about how much, like how big the galaxy is, right?
Just the galaxy, never mind the universe.
And if you believe that God created the universe, There is so much of out there, out there.
I can't imagine why he would be like, no, you can only stay on that one little dot.
tim pool
The crazy thing about Star Trek is that it all takes place in the Milky Way galaxy.
And the universe is substantially larger than just our galaxy.
I mean, we've got photos of all these other galaxies all over the place.
It's crazy how much exists.
The scary thing is that if we can't actually travel faster than the speed of light, or warp, or anything like that, we ain't never gonna see this place.
It doesn't matter.
Yeah, the maze will not exist.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You know what the scariest thing is?
There will come a time... I don't, I don't, the sun may explode before this, but it is, it is hypothetically possible that the universe expands to a point where you will not be able to see anything.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
From the earth.
You'll look up at the sky and you'll see black.
Because things will have moved so far away.
I believe the expansion of the universe is happening so quickly that the light actually can't make it in any reasonable amount of time.
It's possible that life could have emerged on Earth with us looking up and seeing nothing and then thinking there was nothing.
alex alx lorusso
Oh my gosh.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I mean there's if you're if you are a I mean if you believe in in a Big Bang then you would believe that there is going to be an end to the universe as well.
tim pool
Not true.
phil labonte
And a Big Bang?
tim pool
So the Big Crunch is an old hypothesis.
phil labonte
So like oscillating?
tim pool
Yeah, it is now considered to be not correct.
So before Big Bang was Solid State, I believe it was called, Solid State Theory, the universe is and always has been.
Then they said Big Bang.
Then someone said, if Big Bang, Big Crunch, because gravity will then start to pull things back upon itself.
And then they've actually found since that theory that the universe actually has sped up its expansion, and they don't think that Big Crunch is a reality.
phil labonte
Big Rip or Heat Death.
tim pool
Heat death is where they currently think things are going, I guess.
But I'd just like to point out that humans are basically specks on the ass of a mosquito in the universe.
And so what we think we know is just so minimal.
alex alx lorusso
So the science is not settled on that.
phil labonte
I saw a, you know, an illustration of how long, you know, the luminous part of the universe
life is going to be.
And it's like, if you look at it, look at like until all of the stars burn out, right?
Until the all of the stars go black.
The amount of time.
From when the first star is born until the end, compared to, I don't know how they gauge it, but it's like, it's an instant, if you think about how much, like, eternity is, right?
So, like, because all the stars have a lifespan, and it's like, to think of the magnitude of infinity is something else.
tim pool
I'm excited for the Mars expansion pack to get set up in the simulation so that, you It's like one day we wake up and they're like, the technology to colonize Mars now exists, and you're like, well that was fast.
alex alx lorusso
We're gonna go to Mars in our head.
That's the true trip to Mars.
tim pool
Yeah, so one thing I've mentioned several times with Fermi's paradox is that...
Intelligent life may be limited by its quest towards self-stimulation.
Humans right now are working not towards, for the most part, colonizing other planets, but we're actually, all of our technology is moving towards video games, porn, sugar.
We are just giving ourselves what we crave.
Elon Musk is trying to get us to Mars.
Noble endeavor.
And then the rest of humanity is like, I'd like to plug myself into the virtual reality machine to live as a playboy in South America, drug lord or something, and have all the women and the money.
And that's what people are opting for.
I think when New Orleans gets to that point, I think everyone chooses it.
Like, it's like the dude in the Matrix.
They're going to come to you in their bed, look man, you can go in the pod.
And enter this metaverse where you will live, you'll experience time half the speed so you'll live twice as long, and you will be your own god.
And everyone's gonna be like, I wanna do that.
alex alx lorusso
It's interesting how Elon is on both ends though, with Neuralink and then SpaceX.
unidentified
Yep.
alex alx lorusso
Pretty interesting there.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, I think that the Neuralink stuff, I really do think that the point that he's looking for is to overcome disability and stuff like that.
tim pool
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, and that's the great thing about it right now is that I think there's already been a lot of strides made in nerve connection for repairing damaged nerves so people can start walking again.
You still have to relearn because You have to figure out how to move.
Do you guys ever do an EEG?
Ever wear an EEG?
An electroencephalogram?
It's a headband you can put on.
And then, so I did this like 10 years ago.
We bought this headband and then it's got like a thick, like two things that go over your head, like on different points.
And it reads brain waves.
There's a program that's got a red line and a blue line that are moving up and down randomly.
You can learn to control the blue and red lines.
I could not figure it out. And I'm like, thinking hard, and I'm like, how do you move this thing?
Like, I know how to move my hands. I've lived my whole life moving my hands.
But being presented with a screen and being like, it is now connected to your brainwaves
and your thoughts, and you can learn how to control this.
And And I would think like, move up, move up.
You really need to figure it out.
The crazy thing is my friend's sister, she put it on and she was like, what do you want me to do?
And like, move the balloon lines.
You go, okay.
And the balloon line would go up.
And we were like, what?
alex alx lorusso
That's nuts.
I want to try that now.
tim pool
Yeah.
And this is like 10 years ago.
So like we ordered one of these things.
It never came.
I don't know what happened to it.
I should probably order one.
phil labonte
They've got, they've had like monkeys control the ping pong thing.
alex alx lorusso
I've seen that.
tim pool
But this means that you have to learn how to control it.
So when they reconnect your nerves, it's the same thing.
You're like trying to figure out how to make it move.
And then all of a sudden it happens and you're like, brain, that was it.
Keep doing more of that.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah.
tim pool
Otherwise, you know, you just don't have that connection.
But yeah, with these EEGs, theoretically, you could fly a drone with your brain.
You could put on the headband and then connect it to the controller and then fly the drone with your thoughts.
taylor silverman
Well, you couldn't, but your friend's sister probably could.
tim pool
No, I could, it'd just take me a lot of practice.
Like, the fact that my friend's sister was able to just do it, we were just like, whoa.
Like, that's crazy.
taylor silverman
We should test it live.
tim pool
But we, because this program had two outputs, a red and a blue line, that could differentiate, we were like, we could make the drone constantly be going down, and then you could think up, and then the other could rotate.
So you wouldn't be able to zoom it around and move it around, but with this limited EEG technology, we were like, you could learn to fly it up, spin it, and fly it down.
Now, I'm pretty sure we're advanced to the point where the EEG has, like, multiple nodes that can read, like, 16 different patterns or whatever.
In which case, you can... you only need, like, I think three to control.
You need up, down, left, right, and spin.
So what is that, um... Altitude, yaw, whatever, I don't know the terminology.
Those are the words.
Pitch, roll.
That's what it is.
Pitch, roll, and yaw, I think.
unidentified
Interesting.
phil labonte
Yeah.
I'm not sure which one's which, though.
I don't know.
I think yaw is kind of like the left and right.
tim pool
And then roll is this, and then pitch is forward.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
There you go.
unidentified
Interesting.
tim pool
And you can fly drones with your brain.
See, the future's not so bad.
The future's not so bad.
The war's gonna be crazy when, like, 10,000 micro drones with bombs on them swarm a city and just take out a whole building.
That's going to be nuts.
phil labonte
I'm, I'm, I'm loathe to admit it, but I am actually like interested to see who the first person that's going to get killed by like a drone will have like the, just a small like little bullet where they just fly the thing.
And cause I saw this, uh, I saw it was a sci-fi thing, but they were making these little drones.
We talked about, uh, where a drone would just fly in and it's got a 22, you know, bullet and that's, it could be this big, you know, small.
tim pool
Alright everybody, let's go to Super Chats!
If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share this show with your friends, it's the greatest show, everyone agrees, and become a member at TimCast.com.
We're gonna read your Super Chats.
Sage Tim says, who is more likely to lose, Trump vs. Biden or DeSantis vs. Biden?
If you pick Trump, are you willing to risk four more years with Biden to have Trump be the GOP nominee?
Trump lost to Biden before.
I think that doesn't work, that argument, for me, because there's a pandemic.
We will see what happens in the next year.
I also think that I've had conversations with friends and family, and I really do feel like people are waking up to what's going on.
And I think the groomer stuff is really snapping people to attention.
phil labonte
People don't like it when people are messing with their kids.
tim pool
And it's just, it's shocking.
It's an instant, whoa, wait, what?
So before, when you say something like, did you know, when it comes to abortion, the Democrats are like, I don't know about what you're talking about.
You show them a picture of the Drag Queen Story Hour, and they go, hey, wait a minute.
Right away.
But we'll see, man, we'll see.
We are still a ways away.
We got a year to go before we even get into the heart of primary season, so.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Tim, from meat-eating flies to fight club-style hamster, that's some sick stuff.
Oh, and I've decided to identify as a monkey.
Papa needs some crack.
Yeah, the Culture War podcast today.
YouTube.com slash Timcast.
Crazy stuff.
Talking about how the government is wasting your money on nonsense studies to torture animals because these people don't want to lose jobs.
And how Fauci was overseeing this for a long time and was funding a bunch of really messed up stuff.
And LabLeak.
So, if you want to check that out.
They spent millions giving monkeys crack.
alex alx lorusso
Oh, wow.
tim pool
For real.
And I'm just like, dude, for what reason?
alex alx lorusso
Yeah.
tim pool
What are you trying to learn?
Like, well, we don't know what we're going to learn.
alex alx lorusso
And I'm like... There's a bunch of this.
Rand Paul always, like, details it in his waste report.
unidentified
Right, right, right, right, yup.
alex alx lorusso
I always have a good laugh at those, but also crying at the same time because it's our money.
taylor silverman
And it's sad.
Animals are being abused.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm not your buddy guy says in Trump voice.
Don't be a deceptive folks.
It's not very popular for what I hear.
unidentified
Many say not me, but many say it's terrible being a deceptive.
tim pool
Digital DNA says FBI rating a Democrat is stage play.
Are you even reading a real story?
Yeah.
A Blahadam says, Tim, I'm not a bud, uh, Tim, not a bud light in sight on the new Joe Rogan experience.
Protect our parks episode.
Usually empty bud light cans are scattered about on the table.
Protect our parks episode?
unidentified
JRE?
tim pool
Is that what you're talking about, Joe Rogan?
I don't know.
phil labonte
Someone should write a script to search through Instagram photos that go up over more of the weekend to look for Bud Light cans.
tim pool
Oh yeah.
phil labonte
See how many are actually there.
tim pool
Peckerwood says, someone should create a watermark LLC.
Any politician should use a watermark.
If duplicated, the media publisher should be held responsible.
Interesting.
Yeah, we may be entering a period where only official photos with an encryption shared on them, or something like that with a verification.
Maybe blockchain is the answer.
phil labonte
I was just going to say, Matt, what if it's like NFTs?
Because that's essentially what an NFT is.
tim pool
Yeah, that's interesting.
Only the key holder can verify authenticity.
phil labonte
That it's actually, yeah.
tim pool
Interesting.
phil labonte
For people that don't know, NFTs are non-fungible tokens, so it's like, imagine bitcoins, but instead of having all the bitcoins be the same, it's all the bitcoins, but just have, like, pictures, or they're all individually marked, so they're not fungible.
unidentified
Anyways.
tim pool
Nate says, I drive a truck for a living and I saw this ad 12 times today on LED billboards referencing the Harley-Davidson Bud Light thing.
Man, they're just digging their hole.
dig remember South Park said it best Donald Devol says the new Budweiser ad
with Harley Davidson is Is gay.
P.S.
I shorted Budweiser stock and so far I made enough money to cover a year of Timcast.
unidentified
Wow.
phil labonte
Nice.
tim pool
Yeah, so I would assume a lot of people will short the stock of these companies that are getting woke.
alex alx lorusso
What does Jim Cramer have to say about it?
I want to know.
tim pool
Well, he's undefeated.
Leaf Hagen says Epoch Times reported that Russia's state media is trying to convince US and Canadian conservatives to immigrate to Russia, where they'll be safe from wokeism.
Reminds me of ISIS recruiting Americans.
phil labonte
Yeah, nah.
tim pool
Yeah, nice try, Russia.
People say stuff like, Russia is fighting wokeness and stuff.
I'm like, sure.
And they're also just like, the government is bad.
You know what I mean?
Like, I was saying this before, I don't like Joe Biden at all.
But if Joe Biden and Vladimir Putin were standing in front of me, and they both told me a thing, I'm gonna have to go with Joe Biden.
Just because we share at least some common interests.
He's probably lying, I don't know.
But I don't think he wants his house in Delaware to blow up, so at the very least I can count on that.
Whereas, I don't live in Russia, I don't trust Vladimir Putin when it comes to this stuff.
Not that I think the U.S.
is innocent or anything, but you should not be believing that your adversaries, even if the U.S.
does wrong, have your best interests.
Because Vladimir Putin would absolutely love for the United States to be completely destroyed.
You're not coming out of this one just because the deep state is bad.
Lighting Fire says Bud Light is now cheaper to buy than a paper target in Walmart.
It's free!
What do you mean?
Martin Edgar says, a guy was checking out with Coors Light at the store in a small town in northern Michigan.
When I asked, no Bud Light?
He said, no tyranny for me.
That's right.
He said, no tyranny.
All right.
We're at Pinochet's helicopter tour, says Budweiser, proudly known as, well, we're not going to read that one.
We'll keep it light here.
We'll keep it light here, guys.
Really Now says, Harley Davidson boycott in 3, 2, 1.
For real, man.
unidentified
Yeah, and the stock market's closed.
This news came out, the stock market won't be open till Tuesday, so we could see some fireworks come Tuesday morning.
tim pool
Sparky says, the local mom and pop store felt sorry for the distributor and got a pallet of bush.
I commented, don't clog up your shelves with InBev crap.
Distributor was pissed.
He wanted to fight.
I ignored him.
Yeah, the most annoying thing about this are the people who run the Bud Light distributors, and they're like, guys, please buy, and it's like, no.
Dude, look, man, I get it, it sucks, but it's crazy how people are like, my money is more important than values in this country.
Sorry, dude, no.
I'm not buying Bud Light because your small business is in trouble.
I get it, it sucks.
I'm not buying Bud Light, not gonna happen.
Where are we at?
We'll grab some more Super Chits.
Asher Lockhart says, Hey Tim, have you seen the TV show The Blacklist?
If no, you should watch it.
Every issue you have ever talked about on your channels is in that TV show.
Can a criminal care more than a president?
unidentified
Cool.
tim pool
It's got James Spader, right?
He's like the guy?
unidentified
Yeah, it's a good show, but it does get very repetitive.
But it's good.
tim pool
Stevie Vee says, biggest question, where does the expired Bud Light get dumped?
They're making the frogs gay.
There's a video where they steamroll over cans of beer.
alex alx lorusso
I saw that, yeah.
tim pool
People thought that was them destroying Bud Light.
It's not, it's how they dispose of old beer.
Gotta get rid of it.
taylor silverman
How long does it take before it goes bad?
phil labonte
I don't know.
tim pool
I thought beer lasts forever.
phil labonte
Remember Bud has the born on date, or they had that as their marketing thing.
So I don't know how long it lasts, but you know, they're putting the date that it was bottled on.
tim pool
David LaRue says, Hey Tim and friends, I'm a nightly listener.
Love what y'all have been doing and appreciate everyone, uh, everyone you guys do.
Everyone we do?
We don't do everyone.
I watched the Sean Ryan show recently with the Ryan Montgomery interview.
I think you guys should take a deep dive into, what is this?
Into one day chickens for all?
What is that?
phil labonte
I don't know.
One day chickens for all.
tim pool
We've got a bunch of baby chickens about to be born.
Yeah.
Roberto Junior's gonna be a dad.
He might already be a dad.
phil labonte
The ones downstairs?
tim pool
Yeah, they should be hatching like right now.
And there's like 30, I think?
unidentified
32?
tim pool
And then we have another 32, they're gonna hatch in another couple days.
We're gonna have like 70, probably 60 chicken babies.
It's really cute, the coach and Marshmello had two babies, and when we came in to give the leftover sushi, just the fresh sashimi, she came out of the- she's in a mini coop which has its own internal thing, and she came out and the babies came out with her and they were walking around doing chicken stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Very cute to watch the mom of chicken take care of her babies.
Only one Silky's made it though, unfortunately.
They're not very good at, you know, making more of themselves, but they're trying.
Spudly25 says, Bud Light has always been considered the gay little brother of Budweiser in my state.
This just proves it to everyone else.
Which day is that?
Villainous V says, Tim, make June the noble rooster month.
Buck buck.
Yes?
taylor silverman
Rooster pride month.
tim pool
Yeah, we're really excited.
We're working with Seamus on a limited edition coffee run.
So it'll be like a collector's bag.
The thing about these bags is that they fold up flat.
And so you will have the Seamus Freedom Tune style art.
We're still working on it exactly, but we have a general idea.
It's Irish themed.
unidentified
Nice.
tim pool
I don't want to say too much just yet until we get it going.
But yes, Irish coffee, if you get my drift.
So, uh, that'll be fun.
And then we're probably going to do a lot more of that, you know, eventually.
Just have cool... We want to do different pictures of Roberto Jr.
on the bags.
So it can be like, this bag has print number one, number two, number three, and then that's it.
Once they're gone, they're gone.
Collect them all.
unidentified
That is pretty cool.
tim pool
And then in 20 years, people will be like, you have a Roberto Jr.
number one?
Yeah, and it's signed by Phil.
unidentified
No!
Wow.
tim pool
Someone's gonna show up to an All That Remains concert and be like, Phil, Phil!
And they're gonna hold the bag and the CD.
phil labonte
I'll sign it.
Bring it on.
tim pool
It's funny that people still sell CDs.
Have you noticed that?
Like in a city.
And someone will be like, buy a CD player.
I'm not gonna buy a CD player, dude.
phil labonte
I can't imagine who has a CD player.
I know there are people that are buying tapes now.
Like there are bands that are making actual cassette tapes to go along with vinyl.
unidentified
I got a record player!
alex alx lorusso
I like the vinyl.
Vinyls.
Vinyls are probably more popular than CDs.
tim pool
You know why I like vinyl?
Not because of any weird quality or anything like that.
I like it because it plays through.
CDs do, I get it, but... I don't know.
They're just not... I like the vinyls.
There's a straight playthrough.
The thing just goes and you can pick it up and just move it.
phil labonte
It's the analog... You know, the analog... The fact that it's analog as opposed to digital, you know?
tim pool
I like being able to just take the thing and put the song back, you know, and watching it just do its thing.
Oh, and also at the new cafe we got one of those vinyl recorder machines.
It's there.
So excited for this.
It's not set up yet because we're not, we're actually still just doing basic construction and stuff and it's taking forever.
But it's this thing where, called like a voiceograph.
You go inside, you put in money, and then it starts recording and you talk and it cuts a vinyl record.
alex alx lorusso
Oh wow.
tim pool
And then drops it out and you take it and boom.
So very expensive, but very cool.
So we're, we want to have it so that you can come in, you pay for it, you, you pay like 20 bucks or whatever, and you can cut your own vinyl.
It's big enough to have a guitar.
taylor silverman
I was just going to ask that.
Could you do like an acoustic set in there?
tim pool
Yup.
We, we specifically requested they make it big enough so that you can have a guitar in there.
taylor silverman
Oh, it was like custom made?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's the only way to get it.
taylor silverman
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah.
It's a dude who does it.
taylor silverman
That's awesome.
unidentified
Yeah.
taylor silverman
I never even heard of that.
tim pool
Jack White's got one at his place in, uh, I think in, uh, where, where is that?
In Nashville.
Yeah.
So we got one for ours and we're very excited for this.
It'll be really cool.
We can like have Seamus go in there and do like a couple of gags with voices and then have a unique single one-time recording.
Never heard anywhere else.
Very fun stuff.
phil labonte
What do we got?
tim pool
Realty Web Designer says, Phil Labonte.
Is that his name?
Just looked him up, he's legit.
First song I heard, What If I Was Nothing.
Wow, kudos brother, you're good.
Realtors, look me up if you want a website.
phil labonte
Thank you very much.
Look him up if you want a website.
tim pool
Yeah, it's usually people saying two weeks.
Was that your big one?
phil labonte
That's our biggest one, yeah.
That one's our platinum one.
What If I Was Nothing is...
I mean, it's pretty big.
That was the first, like, power ballad that we did, like, love song and stuff, so... I think the new one you got coming out... I can't wait!
tim pool
Yeah, that's a good one.
phil labonte
I can't wait.
We got some fire coming, guys.
Fire!
tim pool
Tim Cass privilege getting to hear the early All That Remains stuff.
unidentified
Hyped.
tim pool
Jason Dixon says, Hey Tim, I had 500 plus shares worth of Harley Davidson, Inc.
Put in a sell order at 31.
I think it just sold.
Going to buy more Bitcoin.
Join the Discord.
Join the Discord, he says.
Become a member at TimCast.com.
Join the Discord.
Hang out with like-minded individuals.
And then after six months, you can submit questions, call on the show, or sign up at 25 bucks and you can call on the show.
We do that just because we're trying to keep out bad people.
We have to have some kind of gating process.
It's imperfect.
I wish it was easier.
NetOneGamer says, I'm turning 21 later this year, and I was torn between buying a Harley Sportster and an Indian Scout 60.
Looks like my mind is made up.
Indian makes better bikes anyways.
Well, there you go.
Easy enough.
Ian Kinney says, Have you ever asked ChatGPT when human life begins?
It'll give you the scientific answer and an ideological answer simultaneously.
Yeah, and I was using ChatGPT, and I also tried Perplexity.ai, which is also very good.
It's very similar to ChatGPT.
But I mentioned this the other day, ChatGPT is very racist.
It's very, very racist.
It will mock white cultural jokes, Irish or Italian or whatever.
It'll do voices, like in text, it'll say, yeah, mamma mia or whatever, but it won't do Asian.
And I'm like, but why not?
Like, why are you excluding me from your fun?
It's like, we're all gonna have jokes and high-five each other, but you go over there.
You can't play with us.
Very racist.
Very racist, JTPT.
taylor silverman
So, depending on who you ask, it's racist towards everyone or racist towards Asians?
tim pool
It's racist towards everyone who's not white.
taylor silverman
Oh, okay.
I thought you meant it would make stereotypical jokes.
tim pool
If you're Polish, if you're Irish, if you're Italian, if you're any white European, it will make jokes about those groups.
unidentified
Okay, so it's like picky about... But it won't say, it won't say City Walk.
tim pool
It, it, it's, it's not picky.
taylor silverman
City Walk?
unidentified
Can I take your order?
tim pool
It's not, it's not picky.
It literally will make jokes about white people and nobody else.
taylor silverman
How many South Park references are you going to make today?
tim pool
Alright, let's grab some more.
Savvy Ro says it's not just popular, Tim.
These companies have entire departments dedicated to equality, diversity, etc.
I understand that.
And that is ESG stuff.
I'm saying for a lot of it, it's just like, can we sell this product?
We have a sticker.
It's on their website, right?
Here's what I think.
They would not have DEI departments if it caused a bud light effect.
So the more this persists, the more they lose, and the more we don't buy from them, then they'll start pulling this stuff away.
Neglectful Sausages, so what?
Your heteronormative, non-communist country is already gone.
10% is the tipping point.
They're well beyond that.
Your kids are being ideologically captured, just like Mao and H-Boy did.
unidentified
Wow.
phil labonte
Cultural revolution!
tim pool
What say you, Phil Labonte?
phil labonte
I think that it is a cultural revolution going on in the United States right now.
Most people are still like, they're like, you're wrong, blah, blah, blah, blah, but all of the things that you see, like the retraining and stuff, that's just, that's brainwashing, that's, you know, I forget what they called it in China, but the DEI stuff, all that, all of that stuff is just being, it's trying to get companies to To comply with the program that they have, you know.
unidentified
This is the weirdest thing.
tim pool
HydroPX says, can we see all of you guys write in cursive?
Let's see how many people in the room know how to.
I don't understand.
Don't we all?
taylor silverman
I think we're all old enough to know how.
tim pool
Yeah.
alex alx lorusso
I can.
tim pool
And like, I don't really write that often, but yeah, it's writing in cursive.
It was mandatory when I was a child.
For half my life, I had to write everything in cursive and still do.
I write... I have to write like...
Really short things.
I don't write, like, big papers or anything like that.
taylor silverman
Wait, who's the youngest one here, Kellen?
unidentified
Yeah, me.
taylor silverman
You can write in cursive, right?
unidentified
I can.
I feel like I forgot, like, how to do some of the letters, some of the more weird ones, but my natural handwriting is, like, 30% cursive and regular writing.
It's weird, but my L's are definitely cursive and stuff.
taylor silverman
Do you guys know what year that was cut out of the program?
That blows my mind.
phil labonte
I didn't realize that they actually stopped teaching.
taylor silverman
Yeah, they stopped teaching cursive.
unidentified
Really?
taylor silverman
That was a while ago.
You didn't know this?
unidentified
Wow.
taylor silverman
That's what he's talking about.
tim pool
So what are signatures these days?
taylor silverman
I don't know.
unidentified
Do kids just like... How do they read the Constitution?
taylor silverman
Isn't that ridiculous?
tim pool
Well, I... They didn't.
alex alx lorusso
Isn't it?
phil labonte
I feel like it is.
tim pool
They're creating a generation of incompetent people.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Who will be helpless.
And the only thing they're gonna be good for is complaining and throwing bricks.
I wonder how that'll play out for him, because capable people are gonna survive.
Like, it's math.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah.
tim pool
You know?
They can be communist all they want.
If they can't read cursive, then they're gonna be like, it's some kind of code.
phil labonte
No.
unidentified
It's cursive.
I, the elder Gen-Zer, will read it for you.
taylor silverman
I want to Google this to make sure it wasn't a rumor, but I swear they stopped teaching cursive in school.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah, I would probably say when, you know, iPad kids became the thing, and then, you know, just, I mean, people use computers and technology now, so even handwriting, I think, in the next 20 years is going to be awful.
tim pool
I mean, my handwriting has been awful my whole life.
taylor silverman
Now, I don't know if this is for sure accurate, but it says here that in 2010, the U.S.
government officially removed cursive from the required Common Core standards for K-12 education.
phil labonte
Oh, it was when Common Core came out.
alex alx lorusso
Oh, interesting.
tim pool
Like, when I'm signing stuff, I'm writing my name in cursive.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah, it's just natural.
tim pool
And then I have to write checks.
When I'm like, I don't print, I just... Isn't there a required in cursive?
alex alx lorusso
I'm pretty sure.
tim pool
I don't know.
phil labonte
No.
tim pool
I wouldn't say I write all that often, but like a couple times per week I'm writing something out, like a name of a company or something.
That's weird.
taylor silverman
Or if you want to, like, write a nice card, make it look good.
unidentified
Yeah.
taylor silverman
See?
tim pool
Don't you sign stuff?
And people ask me to, like, sign stuff, and I'll write, like, hey, thanks, you know, whatever.
I don't know.
But shout out to Hydro.
I think you're, like, our second biggest Super Chatter.
So thank you for all the contributions.
We really do appreciate it.
I think he does, like, 50 bucks a day or more.
It's very, very kind of you, sir.
We really do appreciate it.
You're solely, singularly keeping this whole show going.
If it wasn't for you.
All right.
The Yeti says, I'm military and my comrades complain about the newer generation.
I'm reminded one today.
I reminded one today?
I reminded one today.
The older generations are fully responsible for this.
Every generation has bad apples, but ours were tougher.
Yeah, every generation going back has been responsible for the generations after it.
So you can't just look at Gen X and the boomers and be like, haha, it's their fault.
They didn't raise us right.
Well, then their parents didn't raise them right and their parents didn't raise them right.
It is just a generational decay.
Genki Walrus says, Gen Z doesn't believe they can achieve anything anymore, so they just give up.
They don't want to be a wage slave on a treadmill, living paycheck to paycheck till they die.
Unless the economy is fixed, it will stay this way.
And that's... they're wrong.
You don't have to live that way.
You know?
That's just reality.
But I do feel like the ladder's being pulled up behind every generation more and more and more.
So I'm not surprised a lot of them feel that way, to be honest.
LavaSauce says, I work in an escape room.
I've had to teach kids 9 to 15 years old the difference between nickels and dimes.
Just last week I had another group of 16 year olds who lost the room because they did not know their left and rights.
Dude, I don't like escape rooms.
Did I ever tell you guys my escape room story?
I solved it in like 30 seconds, I guess, and they basically disqualified me.
phil labonte
I don't know what an escape room is.
tim pool
They lock you in a room and there's puzzles you got to solve to find the key to get out of the room.
taylor silverman
I've never been in one.
alex alx lorusso
They're fun.
I think they're fun.
tim pool
So here's what happens.
I go in the escape room and they have all these puzzles everywhere and it's like you've got to go through the room and try and find the first puzzle that leads you to the next puzzle.
I walk and I see a dictionary.
I grab the dictionary.
The first thing I do is I look at the pages flat and I can see a black line in the middle and I say, that's the one that everyone opens.
I open it up and boom, there's a word.
And the guy runs up, grabs the book, slams it, and says, no, no, no, you're not supposed to know that.
And I was like, I could see the crease in the book.
I knew where people were opening it to.
He was like, but you're supposed to find the clue to tell you the page.
And I'm like...
I figured out the page by looking at the book.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you gotta go through the puzzles, and I was like... So then, I see, like, there's like a panel on a wall, and I walk over and I move it, and there's a, there's a key behind it, and the guy runs over and he's like, no, no, you're not supposed to know that's there!
And I'm like, dude, what is going on?
And then, there's a statue, locked to the top of a cabinet, and I look under it, there's a small gap, and I can see the tip of a key, and so I'm like, I need something flat.
Something flat and metal.
And so then someone hands me this little, like, butternut kind of thing, and I...
Underneath it, it's still locked, I hit it, the key falls out, I push it out, and I go, I think it's the key to the door.
alex alx lorusso
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
It's within like a minute, I walk right to the door and the guy stops me and is like, you can't do that.
And then they called me a cheater.
Afterwards, they were like, the award for the cheater is Tim.
alex alx lorusso
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
If there was a corner to be cut, he cut it, and I was like, this is ridiculous.
All they told me was, we're gonna put you in a room and you gotta figure out how to get out.
alex alx lorusso
You gotta figure it out.
tim pool
And I figured it out right away.
And they were like, yeah, but you weren't supposed to actually like, Work around the lock, and I'm like... I thought the point of the game was to get out of the room as fast as possible, not... Solve puzzles.
taylor silverman
I feel like the kids who couldn't tell the difference between the dimes and the nickels probably didn't have that easy of a time escaping.
tim pool
This is interesting.
Tony says, Tim, tried to tell you on Discord, it's Rolling Thunder weekend in D.C.
Huge Harley and other bike riders and veterans have a parade to the Vietnam War Memorial.
unidentified
It's pretty cool.
Rolling Thunder's huge.
I forgot about that.
phil labonte
I feel like this is probably a good time to abstain from making fun of the bikers seeing as they're going, you know, for the ride for vets and stuff.
tim pool
I'm not making fun of bikers.
taylor silverman
Yeah, it's not their fault.
They didn't make an ad.
Budweiser is trying to... Budweiser doesn't have an ad.
tim pool
Yeah, so they should denounce Budweiser if they don't want to be associated with it.
phil labonte
Earlier I was making fun of bikers.
unidentified
Oh, that's right.
tim pool
Yeah, we were going to talk about that.
We didn't get to it.
They say that they want to go safe, legal, and rare as their position.
And I'm like, oh wow, the Republican Party nominee or candidate wants to take the Democrat approach to abortion from 15-20 years ago.
It's amazing that's where we are.
Roe is overturned, and at the same time, a prominent Republican wants to have the old Democrat approach.
Times are crazy, I don't know.
I don't remember, but it's not Tesla.
We tried to go with Tesla, and it was just impossible.
phil labonte
I have Tesla in my house.
unidentified
I like it.
tim pool
Tesla solar?
Yeah, I like it.
I scheduled with them and it was like months going by, nothing happening.
And then we forgot about it, like a year went by.
Then they came, they showed up and we're like, what?
And then they were like, yeah, we can't do the original plan.
We're going to do this plan instead.
And I was like, nah, I'm not interested.
And then the panels just sat on the ground and took them away and left.
phil labonte
So I, uh, I have had a hard time getting service, uh, for my Tesla stuff, but unfortunately, cause I really want it to work and I want to get house batteries, but depending on the, but to find someone to sell their stuff.
Yeah.
I mean, it works, it works to power the house, but I want, I'm trying to get batteries installed and stuff.
And I can't find anyone in new England that does that in new Hampshire.
unidentified
So, yeah.
tim pool
Conor Stacey says, why do you think the presidential candidates don't campaign on lowering costs of housing?
Because that would destroy the equity of those who bought houses.
So you can't.
When someone buys a house, and let's say they get a loan out for $200,000, and they put in $10,000, if you then say, we're going to lower the price of houses, those people are like, I'm going to lose my retirement if you do that.
Like, I need my house to go up in value.
phil labonte
Same reason they'll never make machine guns legal again.
Too many people have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on machine guns.
unidentified
All right, what do we got here?
tim pool
Cortomalti says, Tim, what are you going to do?
Put the limited edition can on the wall?
Also, Tim, we've got limited edition coffee bags coming.
Coffee bags are flat.
Like, I don't get it.
They're flat.
You can literally just go, boop, and stick it on the wall.
Or put it on a shelf.
You know, but like, why do you do people really collect limited edition beer cans?
alex alx lorusso
Because they're like, I never have.
tim pool
I mean, I'm sure people do, I guess.
phil labonte
People collect everything, man.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah, that's true.
phil labonte
Pet rocks.
tim pool
That was smart.
The problem with tinfoil hats is that they amplify the signals.
It's like putting a dish on your head.
radio frequencies and Wi-Fi just to maintain privacy.
phil labonte
You can get beanies that have like a tinfoil lining on the inside.
tim pool
The problem with tinfoil hats is that they amplify the signals.
Oh, it's like it's like putting a dish on your head.
You wouldn't need to wear a Faraday suit.
Yeah, when you wear a tinfoil hat, the radio waves go up through your face
into the hat and bounce around the metal and then stay inside.
It's like, you ever wonder why a satellite dish is designed the way it is?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, to catch more waves and signal.
Eric Miller says Budweiser is now associated with leather chaps.
They've been.
phil labonte
Listen, there's no such thing as assless chaps.
All chaps are assless.
The chaps just don't have an ass.
tim pool
Kevin Svensson says, DARPA's N3 project is less than
50 months away from having non-surgical brain control tech. Fully developed
and deployed neuro-weapons.
China and Russia have it too. Humans will be a programmable commodity.
No permission needed. And then AI will decide to just take over.
Someone will say, Okay AI, it's you now.
And then it'll go, you got it, and then everyone's gonna get hit and they're gonna go, my brain!
What's happening?
I love the machine.
And you're not gonna be able to resist?
All your problems will wash away.
Depression gone.
There's an interesting question about that.
If the first thing Neuralink can do is introduce signals to your brain to release dopamine or serotonin or melatonin, whatever you might need, could it possibly be that Neuralink actually stops transgender phenomenon in the United States?
Because people suffering from dysphoria, they'll say, we'll give you a Neuralink that will actually alleviate those symptoms.
And then all of a sudden people are like, oh, I don't feel dysphoria anymore.
alex alx lorusso
Interesting.
unidentified
I think it's going to make the whole rat utopia phenomenon worse because people are going to get instant information about everything.
There's going to be no struggle to learn more.
You're just going to know something.
tim pool
Well, that's the future.
I'm saying the initial thing that Neuralink will be able to do is like release dopamine.
You know what I mean?
So if you're depressed, they can give you a Neuralink.
It can't control you.
It can't simulate reality.
It just stops depression.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So if someone's body dysmorphic or gender dysphoric, it could stop that.
And then people would just be like, oh, I feel normal.
taylor silverman
I feel like those things kind of have to be addressed at more of the root of the problem, though.
Would it be the same as like, you know, if the person agreed to it?
Yeah, that's the solution they were looking for.
tim pool
I don't know, I wonder if the Nora link can make you fit in, would people choose to accept it, or they want to not?
alex alx lorusso
I think a lot of people would.
tim pool
Yeah, I do.
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unidentified
Uh, you guys can follow me at kellenpdl on just mainly Twitter.
But, uh, hey, I love tonight's episode.
This was a lot of fun.
tim pool
Right on.
Sick.
Thanks for hanging out, everybody.
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