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Timcast IRL - Left DEMANDS Jail For Jordan Neely Victims For NOT Intervening w/Colby Covington
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tim pool
A witness has come forward and said that Daniel Penny, the subway Samaritan, is a hero because
Because they were all terrified for their lives until he intervened to save them.
And I think this context is important.
They're saying the charges should be dropped.
It's particularly important because the New York Times is arguing that the passengers should have intervened to stop Daniel Penny, to protect the man who was victimizing them.
And in fact, they say several protesters are demanding the incarceration And insisting on the culpability of the passengers as perpetrators, saying that because they did not do anything to stop this, they were guilty.
So not only are they outright saying if you defend yourself you'll go to jail, they're saying if you cower in fear as someone else defends themselves, they're going to lock you up too.
We got that plus another amazing story out of New York.
You may have seen this because the video got 40 million views over the weekend.
A hospital worker accused of being a racist Karen who was trying to steal a city bike, which is one of those bike rental, bike sharing things, from a young black teenager.
The only problem is, it turns out, she had a receipt for the bike, and the real story is, this white hospital worker who was six months pregnant was having her bike stolen by a group of young black teenagers.
That seems to be the case considering the evidence presented and published showing she actually had the receipt for the bike and they were trying to take it from her.
You had Ben Crump and all of these activists came out and said that she was a racist, Karen.
Well, her uncle has launched a GoFundMe to support her, so we're going to talk a lot about self-defense and criminal justice, because we also have Sam Britton.
Remember that guy who was stealing all the luggage?
He has been arrested as a fugitive from justice, from the Biden administration to jail.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Colby Covington.
colby covington
Thanks, Tim, for having me.
It's an honor, man.
My mom's a big fan.
She subscribed to your channel years ago.
Besides the fact that you're incredibly smart and intellectual, she's a huge fan of your coffee, so she's always ordering your coffee.
I'm sure if I could get some coffee today, it would make her dreams come true.
tim pool
I appreciate it.
Thank you so much.
Everybody knows who you are, but do you want to give a brief introduction?
colby covington
Okay, so, uh, you know, I'm a UFC fighter, you know, UFC champion, Donald Trump's favorite fighter, the people's champion, America's champion, the king of Miami, so I got a lot of titles that I've won in my days fighting in the UFC and, you know, now I'm a full-time patriot fighting for the conservative movement.
tim pool
Right on, man.
Thanks for hanging out.
We're honored to have you.
colby covington
It's an honor to be here.
Thank you.
unidentified
Right on.
tim pool
We've got Seamus hanging out.
seamus coughlin
My name is Seamus Coghlan.
I make cartoons at a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.
We just uploaded one today on the fact that men get periods now.
So if you guys want to go over there, check that out.
I think you'll enjoy it.
phil labonte
How you doing, everybody?
I am Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
tim pool
Ian's missing.
Yeah, he's just gone.
seamus coughlin
We literally, we're looking for him.
I don't see him.
I've literally checked everywhere in the house.
tim pool
Yeah, he's probably just sleeping.
phil labonte
Have you asked Lucas?
tim pool
Have you looked in his room?
seamus coughlin
Well, that's an invasion of his privacy.
I'm not going to go in there.
tim pool
That's a good point.
seamus coughlin
I don't want to knock in case he's napping or something.
tim pool
That's fair.
serge du preez
That'd be a really long nap, but I'm Surge.com.
I'm ready to start whenever you guys are.
tim pool
Alright, let's jump into this first story.
We have this from Fox News.
Witness to Jordan Neely chokehold death calls Daniel Penny a hero.
NYC Passenger says Marine Vet cared for people and that is his crime.
The funny thing is that's literally a crime these days.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Caring for others in New York City especially.
They say, a retiree who witnessed the fatal choking incident called Daniel Penney a hero and slammed Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg for prosecuting him.
He's a hero to the passenger.
The witness who described herself as a woman of color said it was wrong for Bragg to charge Penney.
It was self-defense and I believe in my heart that he saved a lot of people that day that could have gotten hurt.
You know, I want to point out, too, when we look at this video, and we hear the story of Jordan Neely threatening to hurt people, I don't know about you guys, but I kind of feel like I'm probably underestimating how serious it was.
Like, it's not just some guy threatening people.
I'm willing to bet it's more serious than anybody believes.
Like, he was getting up in someone's face, or coming at somebody, or doing like a flinch, you know, like a faint shot at him to try and get him.
Something was more than just him yelling.
seamus coughlin
Well, yeah, I mean, because people on the subway are thanking him.
There's footage of people thanking him after it occurred.
I haven't seen anything about anyone who was on that train car coming out and saying he went too far and shouldn't have done this.
phil labonte
I've heard nothing at all about anything from anyone that was on the train car actually complaining.
Nobody has said anything negative.
tim pool
And they're calling him a hero.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
phil labonte
I mean, I can't imagine why there would be protesters saying that the people that were on the train that didn't stop The Marine, I forget his name, the Marine from... Penny?
Penny, from Restraining Jordan.
Like, they're asking, they're saying that the other people should be punished for not doing what they're literally punishing Penny for right now?
seamus coughlin
Well, this is hilarious, right, because here's what would happen.
If they could go back in time, if they had a time machine, they go back in time, and then they stop him from putting the assailants in a chokehold, and then everyone gets charged for not stopping them from putting him in a chokehold for putting him in a chokehold, and then, hey, this is just a chain of everyone putting him in a chokehold and everyone going into jail for putting him in a chokehold.
phil labonte
New York is finished.
tim pool
Colby, have you seen the video about what happened with the Marine?
colby covington
I haven't seen the video, but I've heard some of the reports about it, and you know, it's disgusting.
You know, Daniel Penney is a hero.
He's a good Samaritan.
Obviously, everybody on the train felt threatened by that Jordan Neely.
So, I mean, look at Jordan Neely's past.
I mean, didn't he, like, rape a kid or, like, kidnap some kid?
Yeah, like, a multiple time felon.
tim pool
He was arrested several times.
He punched an old man and an old woman in the face on different occasions.
He was arrested, like, was it like 40 times or something?
But I'm curious.
I guess I'm trying to ask you because I think out of anybody in the room you're the only one who has any expertise in fighting.
colby covington
Yeah.
tim pool
And I'm wondering, I don't know, like is there concern for you knowing how to actually fight?
I guess the argument we've heard from the left is What Jordan Neely did didn't warrant choking him to death.
And my response was, I don't think Penny was trying to choke him to death, I think he was trying to stop him.
So I guess, I don't know enough about fighting to know where that line is, or what you think about what is acceptable in terms of subduing somebody.
colby covington
Yeah, you know, he was obviously trying to subdue him and there's no way anybody could have thought he was gonna kill him by just, you know, removing his conscious, you know, by choking him out.
It happens in the UFC all the time.
Guys get run, they get choked, they go to sleep and then they wake up.
So, there must be some type of cause in the Jordan Neely that caused that death.
You know, I don't think it was just by natural causes from a chokehold.
I think there was some extracurricular activity going on.
Maybe he was doing drugs, maybe some other things.
tim pool
That's actually what a lot of people think.
Yeah.
Because he afterwards, uh, Penny puts him in the recovery position and the other passengers and then he was still moving and breathing and then they bring him to the hospital and he died.
I guess it was like on the way there or something.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Well, I mean, regardless, this guy was acting in defense of the other people on the train.
He didn't, he didn't just go out of his way to choke this dude out for no reason.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I mean, look, no matter what, how people wanted to spin the interaction, The like Jordan was being restrained, like Perry wasn't
aggressively attacking him.
That's not what anyone saw.
They looked at the if you look at the video, Jordan, they were trying to restrain
Jordan, trying to hold his hands, trying to prevent him from hurting someone else.
They weren't on him smashing his head.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
phil labonte
We're beating him.
That wasn't an aggressive fight that was trying to prevent him from being aggressive
against other people.
You obviously you know what it looks like when someone's aggressively trying to
punch someone, you know, it doesn't look like he was trying to hurt him.
seamus coughlin
Let's I'm saying this guy was a Marine.
If he wanted to just savagely beat this guy to death, it would have looked very
different. It would have looked very different.
tim pool
Check this out, so the witness account from this woman, she's in her 60s, she said, I'm sitting on the train reading my book, and all of a sudden I hear someone spewing this rhetoric, he said, I don't care if I have to kill an F, I will, I will, I will go to jail, I'll take a bullet, recalled the woman, who was in her 60s.
The terrified passengers crowded towards the exit doors.
I'm looking at where we are in the tube, in the sardine can, and I'm like, okay, we're between stations.
There's nowhere we can go.
The people on the train, we were scared.
We were scared for our lives.
Penny stepped in when Neely started using the word kill and bullet.
Why in the world would you take a bullet?
Why?
You don't take a bullet because you snatch something from somebody's hand.
You take it for violence.
The witness said it was clear to her.
That Penny waited until the last minute to intervene for the sake of his fellow passengers.
She heard a thump when he dragged Neely to the ground but couldn't clearly see until the doors opened at the Broadway Lafayette station and most of the passengers exited.
The witness waited for police to arrive to provide a statement.
Mr. Penny cared for people.
That's what he did.
That is his crime, she told Fox News Digital after the altercation.
She and at least three other passengers thanked him.
Damn, that's amazing.
Nobody wants to kill anybody.
Mr. Penny didn't want to kill that man.
You should have seen the way Mr. Penny looked.
He was distraught.
He was very, very visibly distressed, and he didn't go.
He didn't run.
He stayed.
Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass said at Penny's arraignment Friday that the Marine veteran, who has lived his entire life in the New York area, continued to hold Nelia for a period of time after the man had stopped moving.
I don't think that's true.
I think in the video you can see the dude is still waving his arms around, and there's other men trying to stop him.
So something else was going on than just this.
They say it took three men to hold Mr. Neely down.
He was struggling.
After widespread protests erupted across the city, with many demonstrators and even politicians calling Penny a murderer, Bragg charged Penny.
And now I'm hearing that they're like regular New Yorkers saying criminal charges should not be coming from a tiny fringe group of people.
phil labonte
That's something I mean, obviously we can't verify whether or not the people that have been protesting are actually New Yorkers or not But it wouldn't surprise me considering the history of protests You know the past five or so years in the US that these people were from out of state Making a stink in a in the subway when your average New Yorker is probably like please don't charge this guy because we all hate dealing with mentally unstable people on in the subway because They are there are mentally unstable people.
They do need help.
The city needs to do something about it.
But at the end of the day, it's the average New Yorker that pays the price.
You know, it's like they're the ones that get terrorized when they're on the subway and stuff.
So I just don't I don't see how the average person in New York City is like, oh, You know, we need to punish this guy.
tim pool
There's more.
The guy who filmed it said he started screaming.
He said he had no food, no drink, that he was tired, doesn't care if he goes to jail.
He started screaming all these things and took off his jacket, a black jacket that he had, and threw it on the ground.
The narrative that has emerged has become about race.
A white man who fatally choked a black man, the witness said.
This isn't about race, this is about people of all colors who are very, very afraid and a man who stepped in to help them.
So here's the picture being painted by the witnesses.
They're cowering in the back of the truck as this guy's screaming, takes his jacket off, throws it on the ground, and only at that point when he's saying he's about to kill people, or he's going to, and he takes his jacket off, like it looks like he's about to engage, do these men decide to subdue him.
phil labonte
It sounds like he had all the things that, or he had exhibited all the things that necessary for legitimate self-defense, you know?
He's there, so he's got his fist, he's making threats, you know?
tim pool
Listen to this.
The woman, she said, I miss the city under the law and order of Giuliani.
When it comes to exposing people or subjecting them to violent behavior, the people who are in power are supposed to protect us are not.
That's amazing.
phil labonte
Wow.
seamus coughlin
It's completely correct, right?
These people, they actively work against civil society.
It's not just the case that you don't get in trouble for breaking the law.
You do get in trouble for stopping somebody from breaking the law.
phil labonte
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
And so this is what the media has made perfectly clear to the American people over the past several years.
And this is something they've believed for decades, but they've gotten explicitly clear in their messaging about this.
We saw this during the 2020 riots, right?
30 people died.
The vast majority of people don't know any of their names.
But everyone knows Kyle Rittenhouse's name.
Do you know why?
Because he defended himself.
He didn't let the mob murder him.
And that's not what he was supposed to do.
He was supposed to allow himself to be killed, and he didn't, which is why he needs to be charged, because he's setting an example for people.
He's showing people that you don't have to roll over and die because a left-wing mob is rioting in your neighborhood, or a neighborhood that you're invested in protecting.
tim pool
There's another name that everybody remembers.
Do you know what it is?
What other person?
unidentified
Do you know why they remember his name?
seamus coughlin
He died, right?
He was a police officer?
tim pool
And he was trying to protect a business that was being looted when they shot him over a TV.
And people, they remember his name.
I don't know, for better or for worse, if you try and defend yourself, people are going to remember who you are.
The left for bad reasons and the right for good reasons.
Do you remember the name of the woman who was pushed in front of the train and murdered?
We write her name on the show?
I can't remember either.
seamus coughlin
Nope.
tim pool
Nobody cares.
seamus coughlin
Well, no one's gonna talk about that, right?
tim pool
That's crazy, man.
seamus coughlin
Because that's business as usual, but citizens standing up for themselves against criminals is not.
And that's not supposed to happen.
tim pool
You guys ready for this one?
Here we go.
From the New York Times.
They watched Jordan Neely die.
Did they have a duty to intervene?
seamus coughlin
Oh, interesting!
Are you supposed to intervene when someone's being assaulted?
Literally bizarro!
That's crazy!
When there's a threat, are you supposed to step in and do something?
unidentified
Insane!
phil labonte
That's so wild!
I feel like this is intentionally to make people lose their minds.
It's like, how is it that they're gonna go ahead and argue for people to intervene on Jordan Neely's behalf when the other guy was intervening on everyone in the subway's behalf.
Unreal.
seamus coughlin
It's unbelievable.
phil labonte
Unbelievable.
tim pool
You ready for this?
seamus coughlin
Please, oh my goodness.
tim pool
Arrest everyone that was on that train, read one protester's sign.
Love and protect your fellow man.
Don't move here if you're scared of your neighbors, which it also added.
If you watch someone choke and attack and kill another, you are complicit.
You are responsible.
seamus coughlin
Also, I just want to make a point, that sign that says, don't move here if you're scared of your neighbors, of course not, because if you're scared of your neighbors, you're already in New York.
tim pool
See, this is the thing.
Isn't there a part of all of you that wants everyone on that train to be arrested?
seamus coughlin
No.
tim pool
Why not?
seamus coughlin
No, no.
unidentified
It's evil, because it's evil.
tim pool
Let the people of New York learn a lesson about who they voted for, and maybe then... No, no, okay, okay, you're right.
seamus coughlin
Tim, the people of New York will never learn a lesson about who they voted for, ever.
tim pool
That's not true.
And that's why I say you're right, because the witness, the woman who called Penny Hero says she wants Giuliani back.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, maybe there is a lesson being learned by people that they might stop voting for this.
I can be hopeful.
I kind of have doubt.
seamus coughlin
No one does a better job creating demand for Republicans than Democrats.
phil labonte
I can't imagine how people are going to continue to allow this kind of stuff to happen as more and more victims are created.
Like, people every day are dealing with this kind of stuff on the subway.
And I can't imagine, again, I just can't imagine the people of New York actually supporting it.
It's got to be activists that are making that noise.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, well, and it's about, you know, the stories the media chooses to focus on.
So as we were discussing, when an innocent person is pushed in front of a train by a complete maniac, that's not a story that's discussed.
And then, when a citizen intervenes to prevent somebody who is a career criminal who's behaving violently, screaming about the fact that they're not afraid to go back to jail and they'll kill somebody, not only Is there even a question in anyone's mind about whether this was an appropriate instance for this person to intervene in?
But we're seeing pictures of the person who died moonwalking in a subway station as if that absolves him.
tim pool
I just think this whole New York Times article is magic.
unidentified
It is.
seamus coughlin
It's hilarious.
tim pool
Absolute magic.
seamus coughlin
It's like an Onion article.
tim pool
Right.
Should they have a duty to intervene?
What do you think Daniel Penney was doing?
He was stopping a violent man who was threatening people.
He was literally intervening.
Now, in their world, you're like, at a bank, and some guy breaks in to rob that bank, and the security guard aims a weapon at the burglar, at the bank robber, and the New York Times wants you to intervene to help the bank robber.
That's what they're arguing for.
seamus coughlin
Well, and that's the thing.
This isn't just beyond parody, right?
This isn't just a joke.
This is actually a clever joke, right?
Like, if the Onion or the Babylon Bee published that headline, I'd be like, Alright, that's a good angle.
Because it shows the hypocrisy and it's also funny and it's ridiculous.
This was the New York Times being completely unironic.
tim pool
I'm often very worried for Seth over at the Babylon Bee.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I mean, what is he supposed to publish?
And look, what about me?
I make cartoons about this stuff.
This is a cartoon.
This is actually a cartoon.
tim pool
I do more comedy than you do at this point by simply reading headlines.
seamus coughlin
Just reading the news.
It's true.
It's really getting to that point.
tim pool
I know, but it's terrifying comedy.
seamus coughlin
People are like, are you worried that AI is going to be able to generate comedy?
I'm like, the New York Times already does!
tim pool
You can't compete, dude.
unidentified
Yeah.
Wow.
tim pool
When I saw this headline, I was really impressed.
Because, as you pointed out, it creates a paradox of intervention.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Where, like, Penny intervenes, so then someone intervenes to stop Penny, so then someone intervenes to stop that person, and then everyone on the train is fighting each other under some legal requirement of intervention.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
And then the next article is like, should the people at the subway stop have intervened and stopped everyone on the subway car from stopping the people on the subway car that they were stopping from stopping the other people?
phil labonte
In two weeks, there'll be no one left in Manhattan.
unidentified
Exactly.
phil labonte
Everybody's dead.
tim pool
Everyone's just choking each other?
It's like a human centipede of choking.
seamus coughlin
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
So where are we on this whole self-defense thing, right?
seamus coughlin
Not New York, thankfully!
phil labonte
The left doesn't want, like we've talked about, you know, the left does want to take away your right to self-defense because they don't believe that you should defend yourself against people that have already been victimized by society.
I've said this before, the left believes that the people that, like Jordan himself, was a victim.
He's been victimized all his life.
He was a victim of circumstance, victim of a system, etc, etc.
So when you have someone that's victimized like that, and he's just acting out in this terrible world that he's been oppressed in, and then the white man comes and kills him.
And that's the entirety of the left's outlook on it.
And so the white guy has come and victimized the black guy at the end of the day, and they can't abide by the idea that he was victimized again by historically powerful people, etc.
And it's a simple concept to understand.
But it takes all the agency away from every single person that behaves in a bad way.
And it makes excuses for them.
And you can't have a society that doesn't have a standard that is your life is your own and you can defend it.
If you can't defend your own life, society breaks down.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
So Jordan Neely was screaming at innocent people after a life of crime because of socioeconomic factors, because we didn't fund that library, because his public school wasn't good enough or on par with European standards or standards in more wealthy neighborhoods.
phil labonte
With an imaginary standard.
seamus coughlin
But Daniel Penny, he just woke up and wanted to kill a black person, right?
That's the only analysis we do on the fact that Somebody is dead on this train, right?
He just woke up one morning and said, I guess I just want to go out and kill a black person.
That is literally how the left sees this story.
Every single level of socioeconomic analysis is done to exonerate Jordan Neely.
tim pool
But they're lying.
They don't literally believe that.
They just lie.
seamus coughlin
I think so.
I think you're right that they lie, but there are true believers on the left who, if you really press them or you just try to infer from their conclusions, They really seem to believe that white people are just searching for excuses to kill black people all the time.
phil labonte
There are people who think that.
seamus coughlin
Because every time there's an instance where a white person defends themselves against a black person, it's, well, oh, look at that!
White guy killed a black guy because he's racist.
Really?
That's the first assumption?
tim pool
Weren't you saying something earlier about your hands being deadly weapons?
Is that like a law or something?
colby covington
Yeah, so that's a law.
When you become a professional fighter, you have to register your hands with the police.
No way.
tim pool
You had to go to the police and tell them?
colby covington
I mean, you're supposed to.
I never ended up doing it because I knew I was never going to break a law.
I handle my business in the cage where we get paid a lot of money to fight people.
I would never assault someone outside the cage.
I would never have to deal with that.
tim pool
I heard that when I was little, they said that if you get like a black belt, then it... Like, as a kid, they say it makes your hands deadly weapons.
As an adult, I was told it makes assault aggravated.
Like, if you're a trained fighter and you commit a crime, it's an aggravated crime.
As if a regular person had a weapon, you being trained aggravates it or something.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Well, I remember before the show, you were telling a story about somebody who was a wrestler and got in some trouble.
colby covington
Yeah, so there was this wrestler in my college at Oregon State and he got in a fight at a party because the guy was like cussing at his girlfriend.
So he's like, dude, I'm not, you're not going to cuss at my girlfriend.
Then the guy like pushed him and like threw a punch at him, a sucker punch.
So he's like, let's go outside.
So he took it outside, double legs the guy on the ground.
The guy hits his head off the concrete and had to get stitches and then goes to the police and ends up, my friend ended up getting assault with a deadly weapon because he was a wrestler.
unidentified
Wow.
seamus coughlin
That's insane.
colby covington
Crazy.
Ended up having to do three and a half years in prison.
unidentified
No way.
seamus coughlin
Oh my gosh.
unidentified
Jesus.
tim pool
That's why I always tell people like, the fight's not worth it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You know what I mean?
Like you were saying, fight in the cage, make it professional.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But I've heard so many stories about people who, they get emotional.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And you know, 9 times out of 10, 99 times out of 100, fights usually break up, someone gets a bruise, it's kind of the end of it.
You get that one moment where someone falls back and hits their head and you go to prison.
It's not worth it, man.
colby covington
It's tough though when the adrenaline gets going like people don't know how to control their adrenaline rushes like it's a real thing like when you're in that type of moment where it's like high intensity and you feel like you know you're about to get in a fight like adrenaline the nerves start getting to you and you know you can't handle your emotions you don't think clearly anymore so you know I kind of I feel for those people.
tim pool
I think more people should probably do some kind of fight training, because even thinking about situations like this with Penny, he's a Marine, he was probably cool as a cucumber.
Like, everyone else is freaking out, he's probably thinking, like, alright, I gotta stop this guy before it gets out of hand.
And that's why he was able to do it.
And then there's other guys helping him do it.
But you get someone who's terrified and shaking, and things can get a lot worse than they did here.
In New York, when you get cops who are poorly trained and they start unloading their guns, and this actually happened, they ended up shooting seven random people because they were panicking and just like, people need to be able to be in control.
phil labonte
That was at the Empire State Building, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, did you guys hear that story?
No.
Guy came out of the building, I guess he had, it was like a disgruntled shooting or something?
phil labonte
Yeah, I'm not sure what it was, but the police unloaded and they shot him, but... No, I think they missed him.
Well, I mean, the thing is, they were using 9mm, so they may have missed him, but they also may have hit him, and they just go pass through, because they're fast bullets.
tim pool
They hit like seven random people, just like, because they were just like, just shooting, like, terrified of this guy.
phil labonte
And, I mean, it could have been, you know, ricochets or whatever, but still, you know.
Yeah.
You're shooting guns in New York City, like, just because you're cops doesn't mean the bullets stop in the bad guy, or, you know, they don't bounce or whatever, so.
seamus coughlin
Gotta be careful, man.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
You guys want to get- can we just make everybody really mad and we'll just keep going with it?
seamus coughlin
Sure.
That's our job!
colby covington
This is it.
tim pool
From Fox News.
North Dakota man who killed an 18 year old boy following political argument has charges reduced.
So this story is actually from a couple weeks ago.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
But we overlooked it and a lot of people are now picking the story up.
You may remember the story.
It's this guy, Shannon Brandt.
He apparently called the police, called some kid.
He claimed this 18 year old kid was a Republican extremist and then ran him over.
They charged him with murder.
Recently, they dropped it down to manslaughter, and they're saying it wasn't part of a plea agreement, meaning the prosecutors just quietly were like, we're gonna reduce his charges on this one.
Yo, it feels more and more like, across the country, if you like Donald Trump, if you are conservative, if you're libertarian, if you oppose the establishment, they will throw not just the book, but any book they have at you.
phil labonte
There is unquestionably political motivation against conservatives and libertarians, people that are generally anti-establishment.
There is a strong, strong incentive to do everything you can to punish those people for their opinions.
There's going to be people that are going to say, no, that's not true and stuff.
I really find it difficult to see anything else.
The riots in 2020, people like this guy, kill a kid.
seamus coughlin
Dude, he hit somebody with his car!
phil labonte
After a political argument.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
phil labonte
After a political argument.
That's, like, that's an extremely important part.
This is a politically motivated murder.
seamus coughlin
There was that kid in, uh... How could that, here's the thing, like, to drop it to manslaughter, I mean, how could it be unintentional?
You had to go out of your way to hit somebody with a car, and he ran?!
colby covington
And he ran, wow.
phil labonte
Yeah.
unidentified
This guy, manslaughter, are you out of your mind?
seamus coughlin
He got into an argument with someone and ran that dude over with his car.
tim pool
I think the kids were like dancing in the street or something and he had known the kid and he called him a Republican extremist.
Ends up running the kid over.
They said he fled the scene and they upgraded the charges to felony murder, probably because he fled.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And they said he has also been charged with leaving the scene of a crash that resulted in death.
And now, not because of a plea agreement, they just said, As we have pointed out since the beginning, there is no evidence to support the misplaced allegation of intentional homicide.
The state and defense forensic experts have provided comprehensive reports confirming the tragedy was an accident.
Misplaced media hype and community conjecture is no substitute for evidence.
Mr. Brand is anxious for the truth to be told to a jury trial.
Fair point.
Fair point.
Let's see a jury trial.
I'll say this.
Innocence until proven guilty extends to even people like this.
And, uh, maybe it is media hype.
But, like, when you charge him with fleeing a crime, you have to understand why we feel that way.
So don't say it's misplaced media hype when y'all literally charged a guy with leaving the scene of a crime that resulted in death.
So, like, he says, it's a Republican extremist, runs him over, leaves, and then you're like, eh, it was an accident.
Wow.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
I guess he's gonna argue that he ran him over and thought it was a rabbit?
seamus coughlin
Well, I bet that's the thing, right?
Because there was a prior relationship here.
They clearly didn't like each other.
Political argument.
There was no prior relationship between Jordan Neely and Daniel Penny.
He was threatening people on the subway, so he intervened.
Right?
It was just clearly situational.
phil labonte
This is a little different take on it, but listen, if you're a conservative or if you're a libertarian, I know you got a life and stuff, but if you get put onto a jury, stay.
Like, get in there and get on the jury, and if it happens to be someone that has political leanings that align with you, jury nullification is a great tool.
tim pool
Look at this headline from the original story.
Man admits to running over 18-year-old after they had a political argument.
phil labonte
Unbelievable.
tim pool
See, he admitted to running over the teenager, leaving the scene of a crime, after having a political argument, and they're like, nah, it's fine.
Yo, if you're a Trump supporter and you fart, they're gonna lock you up.
They're gonna be like, what was that?
I smell something.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, well, you smell to Delta Act of 1987.
You know, and this is in what?
phil labonte
This is in Montana, was it?
Or Wyoming?
tim pool
North Dakota, I think it was.
phil labonte
North Dakota?
serge du preez
North Dakota.
phil labonte
I mean, it's not typically a bastion of progressive liberalism there.
You know, I mean, there are definitely Democrats.
I would imagine Blue Dog Democrat type.
tim pool
The kid called his mom and said he was being chased.
Like, this is premeditated.
This is first degree.
Ah, this is amazing.
They call it felony murder.
I'm like, this is pre- He's chasing the kid.
The kid calls mom saying he's being chased.
phil labonte
We don't have a justice system in this country anymore.
tim pool
You know, we talked about- He's drunk too.
seamus coughlin
This kid- Oh my gosh.
tim pool
Like, if you're driving drunk and you hit somebody, you get charged with, like, vehicular homicide, negligent homicide.
phil labonte
This is crazy, man.
Whether it be the stuff with George Floyd, or with the Ahmaud Arbery case, or with this, or it's like, very frequently, there is significantly, you know, significantly bad prosecutions and stuff.
I mean, the FBI going after Trump with the stuff that came out with the Durham case, all that.
I don't see how people can continue to trust the justice system when there are so many high-profile abuses of the justice system.
It's detrimental to the country.
tim pool
They want you to wear an Antifa shirt.
It's the only way you'll get justice.
But then they want you promoting those ideas.
I'm half kidding, but it's kind of like how businesses put up antifa stuff in their windows.
We were out in the West Virginia area, we were working on the cafe, and I see some of these businesses having LGBTQ plus flyers in their windows.
And I'm like, a lot of these businesses probably don't care.
Someone comes in and says, can we put something in the window?
They say, fine.
But some of them, especially in West Virginia, are like, please don't hurt me.
You can put whatever you want in the window, please spare our store.
That was like the line from the 2020 riots, please spare our store.
Because these far leftists are going around and destroying everything.
Like, dude, if you're a small business, you can't afford to replace your front windows.
I'm talking thousands of dollars.
phil labonte
This makes me wonder if this is like what the French terror was like.
How intense were the leftists in the French Revolution?
You know, how intense were they going after the population to To terrorize them into agreeing.
I can't imagine that it was, you know, significantly more intense than at least 2020.
Well, they were beheading people.
Uh, that's true.
tim pool
A lot of people.
unidentified
It was pretty bad.
tim pool
And then it turned on themselves.
unidentified
Robespierre was like, oh no, and then they blew his jaw off.
seamus coughlin
But let that be a lesson to what's going to happen to these people.
The revolution eats its own children.
phil labonte
Society was also significantly more violent back then.
seamus coughlin
Well, look, all I'm saying is don't be surprised if they start killing people.
We've already seen terror attacks from lefties on the rise.
I mean, and they have literally said on television, we should kill them.
Jane Fonda said murder is how we are going to solve the problem.
tim pool
Well, she didn't.
They asked her, what could we do?
And she says murder.
And then they all immediately go, no, she's joking.
She's joking.
And then she rolls her eyes.
seamus coughlin
Covering for her.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like she's only joking, man.
These people are nuts.
phil labonte
Hanoi Jane.
tim pool
Yeah.
They're getting crazy out there, man.
So I kind of feel like maybe this summer we'll see some shenanigans.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
But I think 2024 summer is going to get crazy.
phil labonte
I am concerned about next year leading into the election.
seamus coughlin
So I gotta ask you, during the COVID riots in 2020, you've been... COVID?
I'm sorry, not the COVID riots.
What's wrong with me?
COVID 2020 riots.
A lot happened that year.
It was a great time for all of us.
Inflation, riots, yeah.
Yeah, it was a good time.
No, I wanted to ask, as a fighter, when did you start to get involved politically?
colby covington
Yeah, so I started to get, you know, I've always grew up conservative my whole entire life, but I really started to branch out when I saw that the media and all the athletes were just shoving one way down your throat, the liberal way.
And I'm like, why is no one else talking about conservative beliefs?
I started to realize, like, all these athletes, like, they don't want to disrupt their gravy train.
They're getting paid by these general managers, by these owners, managers, whatever.
And if they say something, they're going to be bagging, you know, groceries at Walmart.
So I'm like, you know what?
I'm an independent contractor for the UFC.
Thank God for Dana White and the UFC, what they do, letting us be independent contractors where we don't have to get our voices muzzled.
We can say whatever we want.
So, you know, my paycheck is not affected by what I believe in and what I stand for.
So.
That's when I really started to come out.
I was just sick of seeing the LeBron James way.
Defund the police.
Oh, I care about equality and injustice and women's rights.
Women's rights?
Bro, LeBron, you abuse women.
You got women in Chinese sweatshops.
You're working for pennies on the dollar.
You're making hundreds of millions off of them.
How could you care about women's rights when you're a woman abuser?
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Wow.
tim pool
It's funny how you don't see these people talk about creating real American jobs, so that we can do away with sweatshop labor and help American workers bring back manufacturing.
They're just... Whatever talking point the Democratic Party or the media tells them to say, they just regurgitate it.
seamus coughlin
It's just virtue signaling.
It's empty virtue signaling.
It's nonsense.
So what kind of pressure has been put on you?
I know you said you're a private contractor, but have people sort of tried to step in the way of that?
Get clients in trouble?
Get the UFC in trouble?
colby covington
Absolutely.
So we had a, we had a Reebok was sponsoring the UFC and they didn't sponsor me individually.
They just sponsored the, you know, the company.
They didn't sponsor me individually.
After one of my fights, they tried to retract some of my statements saying, Oh, we don't stand for what Colby Covington believes.
Oh, we're asking for him to get fired from the UFC.
And Dana's just like laughing, like what?
What?
I'm an independent contractor.
seamus coughlin
Can I ask what you said or is this something you can say on air?
colby covington
No, I just, you know, I just, you know, after I beat this guy that was all about Black Lives Matter, I just, you know, I crushed his dreams and I just, you know, stood up for conservatism and I was patriotic and they didn't like the way I said it.
tim pool
But it's crazy how, like, They can say whatever they want politically, and there's nothing.
And then you do the exact same thing they did, but for your beliefs, and they're like, shut him down, fire him.
I do think it's awesome that Dana's laughing, and he's like, no.
colby covington
Yeah, that's great.
tim pool
Because a lot of major league sports, they have in their contracts, they'll go to the player, the athlete, and be like, you really got to tone it down, you know, like we're getting heat.
I think people who have FU money need to start acting like they got FU money.
What are they so scared of?
It's the weirdest thing.
But you know, it might be that UFC is I think it's just a bunch of high testosterone dudes aren't going to be told what they can and can't do.
phil labonte
It's one of the last bastions of masculinity.
unidentified
Right.
phil labonte
You know?
I mean, not for nothing.
And people will say there's toxicity and stuff, but it's totally not because the guys like you are so well trained, so disciplined, and so focused.
It is not like just, you know, Like you were talking earlier, like just raw emotion.
You have to be smart.
We were talking earlier about getting under your opponent's skin and talking trash and how that's an important part.
And I think that that's a good thing for young men to do.
I like, I think young men should get into jujitsu, you know, especially like young people, I think you'd be fine.
Like, and then if you get older and you want to get into striking sports that, you know, more power to you.
But like that kind of stuff is really good for young men because It's a great way to expel energy, you learn about yourself, you learn about respecting other people and learning your limits and stuff.
So I think that the UFC plays an important role today for young men to be able to express their masculinity in a positive way.
tim pool
I love the, uh, I crushed his dreams, you know?
Very passively.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, so I woke up one day, crushed a guy's dreams.
unidentified
I didn't want to get you guys kicked off YouTube for saying some mean words.
colby covington
You know, I get locked in a cage, it's okay if I leave someone in a pool of blood, but, oh, dang, he said some mean words.
Cancel that guy.
tim pool
That's the funny thing, though.
Like, we talk about all the time how in movies there's murder, there's death, there's chaos, but then someone ten years ago did a bad joke, so they gotta get fired from their job.
They say nothing about it.
In fact, they cheer you on that you and another guy are attempting to mercilessly beat each other to prove that you're the better fighter, and they're like, that's cool.
And then you're like, I like Donald Trump, and they're like...
unidentified
Shut it down!
seamus coughlin
They're like, that's violence!
tim pool
Yeah, no, for real.
unidentified
Inciting violence.
seamus coughlin
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
Not the actual show itself.
They're like, well, you know, we understand fighting is a sport, but no, you know, it's like, it's almost like the leftist version of UFC is two guys go into a ring and start talking about how much, who likes Trump more than the other guy.
seamus coughlin
You like Trump the most.
tim pool
No, no, no.
It's two guys saying things about why Trump is good, why they like Western civilization.
seamus coughlin
Misgendering each other.
tim pool
Yep, and they're like, it's just the most violence they've ever seen.
Who can take it for the longest.
phil labonte
He said Trump beat up my dad!
unidentified
I'm tapping!
seamus coughlin
Oh my gosh.
He said the future isn't female.
unidentified
I can't do this.
tim pool
It's too much.
unidentified
It's too much.
tim pool
And then it's like, there's low blows.
seamus coughlin
Dude, just literally the UFC micro-aggression division.
tim pool
I was watching that fight a couple weeks ago where, I can't remember who it was.
Who was it?
Who was it?
But one guy accidentally hit the other guy in the nuts.
And then he immediately backs off and he puts his like, sorry about that.
And they're like, no, it's cool.
It's cool.
unidentified
We can, we can go again.
tim pool
Like that's like a big no, no.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Like, you know, we, we like, you know, that's not, that's not sportsmanlike.
colby covington
Yeah.
It's not sportsmanlike, but you know, sometimes in the heat of battle, you know, it's tough to control your weapons.
You know, sometimes you're throwing a body kick and it goes a little low.
It might hit the nuts, but that's why we wear a cup in there.
So you can't feel that you get kicked in the nuts.
You're not, you're not going to feel that with the cup on.
So.
tim pool
Oh, right on.
So I just, but I imagine if the leftists are getting into the ring, it's like you have a moment where someone says something and they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, like that's an illegal move, you can't say that, that's too violent, you know, saying something like Trump 2024 and they're like, whoa, whoa, put it down, shut it down!
phil labonte
The real extreme stuff is, that's not a penis, you know?
That's a wound.
colby covington
That's what sucks.
phil labonte
That's not a vagina.
colby covington
That's what sucks about the media, MMA media.
They're all liberal, like they all hate Trump.
They all just bash him constantly and they don't want to give me a platform.
They never want to speak to me.
So, you know, it's just funny because none of them are actual journalists.
None of them have journalism degrees, but they want to act like they're journalists.
tim pool
It's funny.
I hate the journalism degree thing.
I suppose there's... I'm a journalist.
Yeah, Seamus is a journalist.
I think back in the day, it probably made some sense.
I was talking about this today with my family that we're in West Virginia in this small town.
The newspaper used to just be like a bulletin board.
Seriously, the news was like a guy fell off his ladder and hurt his leg.
You live in the city, and you pick up the newspaper, and it's like, John fell yesterday.
And you're like, oh, John fell, wow.
And there's only a few thousand people, so most people knew sort of who everybody was.
Now, nobody cares at all about who their neighbor is, and you can have a house burned down across the street from you and be like, what happened?
There was a fire?
I didn't even know who lived there.
Like, we completely separated ourselves from all information on this stuff.
seamus coughlin
Well, with the political bias, it's extra bizarre.
And, you know, you're talking about the UFC here and the fact that UFC journalists are on the left.
I understand that journalists are usually lefties, but UFC is not like some flowery left-wing thing.
That's why it's so bizarre, right?
colby covington
That's funny.
They want us all to be betas, but we're all alphas, you know?
They don't want, you know, masculine men in society, you know?
That's not their agenda.
It doesn't fit their agenda.
seamus coughlin
I just don't, like, are they doing their little, like, critical theory analysis on the fights, or how does that even work?
tim pool
I think the reason they're...
I think UFC allows like, you know, like I was saying Dana White, because it's like high testosterone guys who are just like, after you've been punched in the face so many times, words kind of roll off your back.
Like they didn't even happen.
It doesn't even matter.
But these journalists are genuinely terrified words.
They hurt them.
These millennials, these Gen Zers who have never experienced anything.
And it's funny because people are, we've had a couple of super chats where like, these, these guys have never even been punched in the face, like talking about us and like, we're going to sit here and talk with you.
unidentified
And it's like, no, I've definitely been punched in the face, bro.
tim pool
I've been in conflict, crisis, and I don't want to say overt war, but I've been in places where people are shooting at each other and I've watched people die.
Not that I've been directly punched in the face.
I've had Antifa try to punch me in the face.
seamus coughlin
But I mean, look, I have a white belt in jujitsu.
I'll put it this way.
phil labonte
I'm a white belt in jujitsu, so I know what it's like to get wrapped up, okay?
So I know what it's like to get beat up.
tim pool
But I'm here to say, like, fair point.
I have no problem being like, I have no idea what it's like to go up against the greatest
fighters in the world and win or lose.
And these leftists act like they do know.
seamus coughlin
And I totally get that.
And I agree, but I just don't know how anyone could hear me speak and come to the conclusion
that no one's ever punched me in the face.
That's my point.
Are you kidding me?
Oh my gosh.
colby covington
I think the best thing about MMA media is just they all write with their bias and their feelings.
They don't write impartial journalism.
They don't call a spade a spade.
They dance around it, and it's just sad to see.
tim pool
What do you think?
Do you think most fighters are probably right-leaning?
colby covington
I would say it's a mix.
I'd say it's half and half.
tim pool
I'm like, how do you be a fighter and a leftist?
I just don't understand that.
colby covington
Yeah.
That's true.
I mean, some of the guys are vegetarians or vegans and all about the soy boy life and safe spaces and this and that.
unidentified
Wow.
seamus coughlin
And I think it's also like the particular brand of left-wing politics, right?
Because I don't think a lot of them, I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think a lot of them are going to be like feminists, but I could definitely see like the BLM thing.
That's something that I could see appealing to men in the MMA.
tim pool
But these vegan fighters, they're not like heavyweights, right?
colby covington
Nah, they're like middle weights, lighter weights.
tim pool
And I'm not trying to rag on anybody who's vegan.
I got no problem with that.
Live your life, do what you want to do.
Just please be healthy.
And if you are, awesome.
But it's really hard to maintain higher weights.
I was reading interviews with Hemsworth, Chris Hemsworth talking about playing the role of Thor.
And he was saying he was eating thousands of calories of fish and chicken every day to try and maintain that muscle mass.
And it's really, really hard.
Constant training, eating like crazy.
And then once you stop, you start going back down.
So I'm like, I don't know, I kind of feel like, maybe it's just my bias, but if you can take a hit,
if you can fight at the highest level, how are you gonna be the kind of person
that's like words are violence?
You know what I mean?
You're gonna be like, I don't care what you call me, dude.
I just got punched in the face, it hurts.
seamus coughlin
Well, and that's the other, like I think a lot of it is just based on,
this is my side of the aisle.
Again, you mentioned like the BLM thing.
I could totally see that.
And I think a lot of it just becomes like tribal politics.
You know, my family was Democratic growing up or my family was Republican growing up.
And that's why I'm into this and not, you know, my gender studies professor told me words or violence or something like that.
I would suspect most of the people in the UFC on the left aren't coming at it from the blue haired college student angle.
colby covington
Yeah, no, most fighters, you know, didn't go to college and they're rather dumb.
So, I mean, they get most of their information from either social media or mainstream media and we know how controlled that is, you know, and how much fake news is out there.
So, you know, these kids in fighting are a lot of sheep, you know, they can't think for themselves or do the research to find out the real information.
They just read a news article like that on New York Times and they just believe what it says automatically.
tim pool
Let's jump to this viral story.
This one's so good.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have this from the Daily Mail.
Pregnant New York City nurse accused of taking a city bike from a black man outside a hospital is named as friends start GoFundMe to pay her legal bills and lawyer shares receipts that proves the bike was hers.
Alright, here's the story.
A viral video over the weekend.
Showed a white woman yelling for help as some black teenagers surround her and one guy has his hand on the bike saying, this is not your bike, this is my bike.
They started claiming that she was racist, that she was trying to steal the bike from this young black man, and that she was putting his safety in jeopardy.
The hospital suspended her pending an investigation.
We have this tweet from Ben Crump.
He said, This is unacceptable.
A white woman was caught on camera attempting to steal a city bike from a young black man in New York City.
She grossly tried to weaponize her tears to paint this man as a threat.
This is exactly the type of behavior that has endangered so many black men in the past.
The first thing I noticed when I see this is that she's actually on the bike.
She's literally on the bike and he's not, and he's grabbing the bike and laughing.
So, how is it, so these city bikes, the way they work, they're in the rack, you walk up, you scan the QR code, and it unlocks the bike and you can take it out.
How is it that he walked up, did not get on the bike, scanned it, then did she run up, this pregnant woman, she's six months pregnant by the way, did she run up and jump on the bike and try taking it from him?
That's what Ben Crump is arguing.
So her lawyer, so this is the story that was going out.
Not only did they go, they put out a story saying that she was a racist trying to steal the bike from this black teenager, journalists went to her home in New York City and started going to her neighbors and saying, look, this is your neighbor.
This is what she did.
What do you think?
And there are these people being like, wow, that looks racist.
I can't believe she would do that.
Think about how nightmarish it is to live in one of these places.
phil labonte
I can't even imagine.
Wanting to live in a place like that where you have to worry about the media going to your neighbors, accusing you of racism, and a totally fabricated story.
Ben Crump is the most incredible race hustler I have ever seen in my life.
That dude is shameless, and he just gets on any court case or whatever that he can.
He's just right there planting his flag, looking for them dollars.
seamus coughlin
So, wait.
So, she had the receipts that showed that this was her bike.
This guy was trying to take it from her.
On what basis did he decide to report that she was stealing the bike from him?
Just the picture?
He saw the picture and said, well, she has the badge.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
They filmed it.
seamus coughlin
Oh, okay.
tim pool
They filmed her and said, like, this is brilliant stuff.
This is con-level, brilliant grifting.
When you're committing the crime, accuse the other person of committing the crime and film them, and then if they don't give you what you want, you can upload the video and make them the bad guy.
seamus coughlin
That's rules for radicals, right?
Accuse your opponent of what you're doing.
tim pool
I was talking about this when I did a segment for my morning show, an old con trick
called a reverse pickpocket.
What you do is you take a wallet with you put your ID in it, like an old dummy ID, and then maybe some,
I don't know, a couple bucks or something.
You slip it into the bag or pocket of someone else, then accuse them of robbing you,
and this gets other bystanders or even the police to rob them on your behalf.
So what happens is you say, help, that person just robbed me.
seamus coughlin
And they took my phone.
tim pool
They took my wallet.
Phones hard because you can lock it.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, but if you say they took my wallet, you can say they took other things too.
Exactly.
tim pool
So the way the comm would work is you drop the dummy wallet in their coat pocket or something.
Then you call the police or you ask for help.
When they say, look in his pocket, the victim is going, what are you talking about?
I didn't do anything.
And they go, empty your pockets then.
The person pulls a wallet out of their pocket.
There it is, that's my wallet.
Open, it's got my ID in it.
When they open it and your ID's in it, they say, boom, this proves it.
And I say, and my cash, I had 40 bucks in there.
No, there's no cash in here.
Where's my 40 bucks?
Then they take the 40 bucks from the victim and give it to you.
You can actually get police to arrest the victims.
And then they'll often just be like, here's your cash, sir, sorry.
It was an old con people used to pull.
And there's sophisticated versions of it, too.
They wait till someone leaves an ATM, and then people will leave the receipts at the ATM showing how much money they have on them.
Then your buddy reverse pickpockets, then you call the police and say, that person did it, the wallet on them is proof, the cop doesn't even need to get a statement or any evidence, the wallet on them is proof enough and the cop will say, upon stopping the perpetrator, we found the wallet in question, proving that the theft took place, we returned the money to the victim.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Crazy, right?
This is what these guys are basically doing.
They're trying to, here's what I think they're trying to do.
When, this happens a lot.
With these bike share things, you unlock the bike with your phone, and then you ride it around and it charges you, I think per hour, or you can be a member or something.
So what they'll do is they'll wait for someone to unlock a bike, take the bike from them, and then bike's theirs.
serge du preez
Yeah, bike's on them.
tim pool
Because the bike doesn't have a camera on it or anything like that.
So you can't track.
And now if I use my phone to unlock a bike and they take it?
seamus coughlin
It's all on you.
You paid for it.
tim pool
That's right.
I paid for it.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
I think they were trying to steal the bike from her.
That makes sense.
And to get away with it, they said she's stealing the bike from me.
And it actually worked for a second until she was able to publish the receipts proving it was actually her bike they took from her.
Crazy, right?
seamus coughlin
That is really crazy.
tim pool
Who wants to live in this place?
This is in New York?
phil labonte
Hustlers gonna hustle.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah, look at this.
This is, uh, what is it?
It's right by, just north of Union Square.
They can reveal the nurse's city bike receipts, which her lawyer claims proves the number on the handlebars of the bike she was clutching in the footage.
So you can see in the picture, 5603915, and they published the receipt, 5603915.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Welcome to the new country, I guess.
seamus coughlin
Well, he also immediately took it to not just a race-baiting place, a racist place.
She's weaponizing her white woman tears.
Like, you mean she's crying because someone's trying to steal her bike from her?
tim pool
I don't think she was really crying, though.
It does seem fake.
Like, they accused her of fake crying, and the reason I think a lot of people sided against her is that She's screaming for help.
No one helps her.
Then she grabs his phone.
Then they grab it back.
Then she starts crying.
And then the guy behind her goes, get a different bike.
And then she just gets off the bike and stops crying.
So I kind of feel like she wasn't as distressed as she's making out to be, but she was still the victim.
Trying to figure out how to win this in some way because she doesn't have the physical ability to do so.
And part of me is just kind of like, I'm gonna say it.
I'm gonna say it, guys.
She lives in New York.
The likelihood that a woman, a millennial woman, in New York voted conservative or for law and order is almost zero.
unidentified
But you know what?
tim pool
I'm hoping it's stuff like this that wakes people like her up, right?
unidentified
That's true.
serge du preez
That's what you hope for, but it never seems to shake.
That's why I don't live there.
tim pool
That's why I decide not to live in these places.
phil labonte
We keep saying over and over people should get out of New York City, get out of the cities and stuff.
I mean, every day you see more and more people that can't leave.
Speaking up and saying things like, I miss Rudy Giuliani, like we saw that woman today.
And then, you know, the people that are on the subway are happy that the guy saved him.
Because there are people that can't leave.
And it's hard for some people to just be like, I gotta up and if you got family,
or if you don't have a lot of money or whatever, there's a million reasons people could be attached to a
city.
But when you hear the average person that's stuck and can't leave, start saying,
I miss the guy that was the law and order guy that has also been basically lambasted
for the past six, seven years in the media because he supported the wrong president.
When you've got all of that propaganda, but New Yorkers are still like,
I remember what it was like when Giuliani was the mayor and I want that back.
You get people saying things like they want Michael Bloomberg back.
And that's really the population speaking about what they want.
I can't imagine what it's like to be stuck there.
And I feel terrible for the people that are.
tim pool
They launched a GoFundMe for her.
And I think she's going to be in for a rude awakening when GoFundMe bans their fundraising effort because GoFundMe is the left and GiveSendGo is the right.
This woman, her family, they don't know what's going on.
They don't understand.
I would not be surprised if GoFundMe removes this because she is a racist white woman who tried stealing a bike from a black man and she's a Karen.
And then she's gonna have to learn the hard way why she'll have to go.
But maybe not.
Maybe GoFundMe allows it.
I'd be surprised if they do, to be honest.
She's raised four grand so far, of her $35,000 goal.
Well, it's all... Oh, go ahead.
seamus coughlin
No, go ahead, go ahead.
Well, no, I mean, it's interesting how this is getting flipped around.
People are making the argument that her calls for help were insincere.
Okay, but one person is actually committing a crime on camera here, and it's not her.
So, why is she the person who all of the public attention is on?
I also want to point out, because this was left out, and I also was not aware of this until I just learned this, she's also pregnant.
tim pool
Six months pregnant.
Yeah, that's what I said.
seamus coughlin
Oh, you did.
Okay, I'm sorry.
That totally went over my head.
tim pool
And so I'm saying, like, what?
When this young black man was standing next to the bike and scanning it, this six-months-pregnant woman jumps onto the bike?
unidentified
Give me that!
seamus coughlin
Dude, these six-months-pregnant women stealing bikes from black men in New York is a real problem.
It happens every day.
tim pool
It's all the time.
Apparently it was so shocking that Ben Crump had to get involved.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, for weaponizing their white woman tears.
tim pool
I don't understand what they think is happening.
Like, this pregnant woman tried taking a bike from this group of men?
seamus coughlin
Of race?
No, a racist pregnant woman.
Because they brought race into it.
She was using her white woman tears.
A racist white woman.
These pregnant white women are victimizing minorities by stealing their bikes.
It doesn't stop happening.
tim pool
Are they saying that this pregnant white woman saw a group of young black teenagers, walked up to them and said, give me that bike, and then jumped on it?
serge du preez
Right.
It's just wild to me.
That's what they're actually going for.
tim pool
And she had to prove her innocence.
Yeah, it's crazy.
Because the media was saying she made them unsafe.
Because Ben Crump called her racist.
phil labonte
Unreal.
tim pool
You know, look, man.
Do you expect me to donate to her as well?
Like, the penny thing I get, they're trying to put him in prison, you know what I mean?
They did try destroying this woman's life, but this is why I said it before and I'll say it again, at what point are these people in these cities, this is how they choose to live.
I get it, we've gotta win these fights.
Maybe the reason we donate to her is because we want people to see that you will not be victimized by these con artists.
seamus coughlin
Well, this is the problem, right?
I mean, you can donate to people who this kind of thing happens to, and I think that's a good thing, but when the people who perpetrate the lies don't face any negative consequences, it just keeps happening.
There's literally zero downside to spreading a lie like this.
tim pool
You know what I was thinking?
We were talking about What were we talking about?
We were talking about history earlier.
And it's partly because the work we're doing in West Virginia, these are small towns.
And I was saying, like, any story you've heard throughout history, just imagine it with a hundred times less people.
Because we're used to growing up in these big, dense, urban environments.
Or we see, like, a football game and there's 60,000 people.
And we're like, wow.
So when you think back to the Coliseum, you're imagining this huge, full Coliseum and the Gladiators fighting.
It's probably a couple hundred people.
like just a few hundred, these great battles of history and we're imagining
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
and it's like, I think, I think what was Gettysburg like 10,000, 15,000 or something like that? No, no, no. Way more? More
phil labonte
people died at Gettysburg than died in the entire Vietnam War. Oh wow. Well I knew
seamus coughlin
that more Americans died in the Civil War.
Was it something like 700,000 Americans died in the Civil War?
phil labonte
Yeah, more people died at Gettysburg than died in the whole Vietnam War.
There was 57,000 people died in Vietnam, and there was more people that died at Gettysburg.
tim pool
Oh wow, yeah, it was 160,000 people present at Gettysburg.
That's a lot of people.
A lot of people.
Civil War excluded, but I was reading about some historical fight and it was mentioning like this great battle and it was a few hundred people fighting and I was like, oh wow.
We think by today's standards, and maybe because of the Civil War, we assume there's way more people, but there were a lot less people before the 1900s, before the Industrial Revolution.
phil labonte
Before the before the you know, I mean we talked about all like energy is life and there's all this talk about you know, limiting energy and there's a lot of the green initiatives and stuff.
That's just going to cause mass death because energy is life.
If you look at a chart of world population, it's not just the industrial revolution.
It's oil.
Oil is so energy dense that once people discovered that oil could be used in all the things that it can be the population on Earth skyrocketed.
I mean, it's like, it's literally, like, it makes Lance's left-handed chart look ridiculous.
I mean, it's straight up.
tim pool
Left-handed chart.
seamus coughlin
So Colby, I'd like to ask, and obviously don't answer if this is not something you're public about, but do you or have you ever had to live in one of these blue places?
colby covington
Yeah.
Yeah.
I had to live in Oregon for most of my life.
And, you know, it wasn't as political.
They didn't, you know, make it so, you know, so much division like there is today and, and, and left versus right and trying to make it a white versus black thing to divide this country more.
So it was never like that until like a couple of years ago when Antifa started raiding it and, you know, it just became such a Democrat run state.
So this time and day is just so much different than it was, you know, a decade ago.
seamus coughlin
And so you grew up there.
phil labonte
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
That must be really hard to see it fall apart.
colby covington
Yeah, it's really hard because I love that state.
It's such a beautiful, you know, state.
unidentified
Yeah.
colby covington
A lot of mountains, a lot of outdoor stuff to do and, you know, that's where I was born and raised and that's where all the hard work was put in to get to where I am today, the top of the mountain of the UFC world, so.
You know, I'll never go back now, seeing it the way it's run.
I'll never go back.
I don't even go to visit, you know?
tim pool
Somebody did ask a good question.
They said, why is it that on the receipt, the time is blurred out?
As if to imply that she went back later to find this bike.
I'll say two things.
The first, I'll say a couple of things.
I have no idea.
You want to pull this up?
I have no idea why they blurred the time on the receipt.
That's the Daily Mail.
But you wouldn't be able to find the bike.
Like, if someone took the bike and then rode away with it, you don't know where it would end up.
The other thing is, the New York Post says the first receipt reviewed by the Post shows the bike was taken out before it was re-locked one minute later, which Marino said is the bike seen in the video.
The second receipt shows another bike being taken out a minute later, which is the bike she switched to.
So the story was that when she purchased the bike and tried to take it, they pushed her back in and wouldn't let her leave with it, which is why the receipt says zero.
Because it was unlocked and then re-locked right away.
So that's the bike.
And you can see the number on the bike in question.
But other than that, I have no idea where the Daily Mail... I'm assuming it looks like the Daily Mail is the one that redacted the timestamp on it for some reason.
Yeah, no idea.
Yep.
Very strange.
Should we jump to the next Law & Order story?
Alright, here you go.
You guys ready?
In the criminal justice system, stealing luggage from airports is considered especially heinous.
unidentified
In New York City, the members of the Biden administration who commit these crimes are given raises.
tim pool
Former Biden nuclear official arrested as fugitive of justice in luggage theft case.
Oh my gosh.
Sam Brinton stole bag from airports in Minnesota and Nevada in 2022.
He probably stole a lot more than that.
And I don't, they called him non-binary.
I don't think he was non-binary.
I think he's a kleptomaniac.
And what he would do is he would steal their clothes and then wear them on camera because that gave him some kind of exhilaration.
Like, this is what he would do.
You can see here in these images, he's wearing the clothing he stole from these women.
I don't think it's about wearing women's clothing.
I think it's about... Imagine this.
If you wore a suit, nobody would know that it was a stolen suit.
You steal a suitcase, you find a suit, you put it on, you wear it on a show, someone might be like, is that my suit?
I can't tell.
But then, in the suitcase is a suit, and is a frilly fancy dress with moons on it, and he's like, this- Just wants you to know he stole it!
No, for real!
He wants- he wants to stand in front of everybody and scream, this is a stolen outfit that I am wearing, and smile as they clap for him.
unidentified
Seems healthy.
tim pool
And that- that's what does it for him.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's what- that's- that's what he gets.
And the Biden administration is all about it.
colby covington
Man, that's some sick fetish type stuff.
You can be weird, but you know, just don't be weird around our kids.
Don't be weird, you know, in public.
You know, do whatever you want to do.
This is America.
It's freedom of, you know, we have so many freedoms here.
So do whatever you want to do behind closed door.
Just don't do weird stuff in public.
phil labonte
And don't do weird stuff with my luggage.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
That's all.
tim pool
That's all we're asking is like, leave the kids alone and don't break laws.
unidentified
Yeah, dude.
colby covington
It's like too hard to ask.
seamus coughlin
Would you get that little slip?
When you fly and get that little slip in your luggage that says you've been subjected to a random TSA search, you can't find your dress, you look on television, this guy's wearing it, you're like, wait a minute!
tim pool
That's, that's, it's, yeah.
serge du preez
That's literally what happened.
tim pool
What he did, he was like a nuclear regulation guy.
It's so weird, like how, why was he in the news?
He wasn't like a prominent cabinet member because of his non-binary status.
seamus coughlin
He was like a Biden appointment.
I think he was a groundbreaking pick or something like that.
It was a win for diversity, which makes us stronger.
tim pool
Former nuclear waste expert for the Department of Energy.
They were like, he's non-binary.
It turned out he was just some kind of klepto fetishist.
What would you call that, kleptophilia?
seamus coughlin
Something like that, yeah.
That's gotta be a thing.
tim pool
Arousal from stealing people.
seamus coughlin
Kleptophilia, that's what they call Mr. Steal Your Girl, you know what I mean?
phil labonte
I mean, I think, if I understand correctly, the only reason that he got appointed is because he was, you know, they could promote that they had a non-binary member of the new religion in the position.
seamus coughlin
Kleptolagnia, by the way.
unidentified
What?
seamus coughlin
Kleptolagnia.
tim pool
Lagnia?
seamus coughlin
That's L-A-G-N-I-A.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
What is that?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, that's what the state of being sexually aroused by theft.
So I learned another term that shouldn't have to exist.
tim pool
The other one we'll talk about in the Members Only Show.
We got an outrageous Members Only Show coming up here tonight having to do with a lot of stuff.
unidentified
You follow me on Twitter, you know what I'm talking about.
tim pool
We don't say such things on YouTube.
I don't think I even said anything too egregious.
On Twitter.
I guess we'll save it.
You stated a fact.
We'll save it.
Let's keep talking about the crazy guy who stole the clothes.
What did he steal?
He said he was ordered to pay over $3,670 to the owner of a bag.
phil labonte
He stole some one-of-a-kind stuff that a lady had made.
She'd made her own clothes and stuff and it was expensive for her to make and it was one-of-a-kind and he jacked it.
I think actually that, yeah, the one on the right there.
The red thing was custom-made.
Actually, no, maybe even the... I think both of those.
tim pool
I think he's wearing these one-of-a-kind artistic modeling pieces.
Like, the clothing he's wearing was designed.
He probably stole a bunch of bags and threw away all of the stuff from Kohl's and Old Navy.
And then he finds the unique stuff and says, it's basically like returning to the scene of a crime, you know, like in the movies and the serial killers like standing outside the police line smiling and staring and they're like, what's this guy doing?
You can't prove anything.
What do you do?
Like that's what he was trying to do.
And I think.
It's like, what was it?
Was it King of the Hill or whatever?
What show was it where, oh no, a family guy did it where Lois is stealing everything because she gets excited from it and then she like puts the cigarette out on her arm like, I'm alive!
Like, instead of skydiving or bungee jumping, this dude steals women's clothing and then wears it on TV.
phil labonte
Lois does have an addictive personality.
tim pool
And Peggy Hill was a sociopath.
seamus coughlin
She's like a narcissistic sociopath.
She's very into herself.
tim pool
That's an understatement.
She was an evil woman.
That character, man.
unidentified
Oof.
tim pool
That's what inspires people like this, I guess, who go around stealing clothes.
serge du preez
Yeah, it's like this dude's from one of those shows.
And it's just- it's real life.
It's like a- it feels like a thing you'd see on Family Guy, but this is something that actually happened, like, numerous times.
tim pool
Yo, he was- as part of an adult diversion, he was required to write a letter of apology, return stolen items to the victim, and complete three days of community service.
Brenton also agreed to undergo a mental health evaluation.
seamus coughlin
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
Wow, because he was facing five years in jail.
He had to pay $3,670.
Over a bag he stole in December from the Harry Reid International Airport.
He was seen on surveillance footage of the stolen bag in July.
At the time of his arrest in Vegas, the Biden admin said the incident and alleged crimes were a non-political issue and refused to comment.
In February 2023, a Houston-based fashion designer publicly accused him of stealing her bag from Reagan National Airport in 2018.
Isa Compson wrote on Twitter that she had lost a bag containing custom outfits after traveling to DC to display her designs at an event.
After Brinton's thefts were reported by the media, Compson said she recognized her items in the images of Brinton, filed a complaint with police in Houston, and was subsequently contacted by the FBI.
Well, at least they're doing something, I guess.
You know.
If anything, they're stopping this guy from stealing clothes.
phil labonte
They're also suppressing information.
tim pool
But why, like, so if he already got arrested and charged, what's the current arrest for?
He was taken into custody May 17th at his home in Maryland at the request of the Metropolitan Washington Airport.
He was taken to the Montgomery County Detention Center and held overnight in prep for an appearance before Judge Victor Del Pino on May 18th, which was today.
He is being held without bond.
Yeah, that's like really close to here.
That's like a few miles away.
seamus coughlin
Can you imagine being a grown man and being forced to write an apology note?
Worst thing I've ever heard.
Did he have to write it 50 times on a chalkboard?
I will not steal women's luggage.
I will not steal women's luggage.
That's a tough one.
unidentified
I can't wait for the next big story that comes out of this.
tim pool
I That's like, that's like relatively close.
I guess we're super close to DC, so it's not surprising.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh, that's right by, it's right by, um, who's that member of Congress who, uh, lied about me and everybody else on the January 6th committee?
Uh, Rat- Rat- Raskin!
serge du preez
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Yeah, he's right by, right by there.
phil labonte
The designer that he stole from, I can't pronounce that.
Komsom?
tim pool
I don't know, that's what it is.
Is that?
phil labonte
Asaya Komsom.
Komsom.
Yeah, and I mean, she's still out there doing stuff and she makes cool stuff, but man, he got himself into a pickle.
tim pool
Has anyone gone through any of his other photos and tried to track down his clothing?
I think someone did, actually.
I think that's how they found some other stuff.
seamus coughlin
No way!
tim pool
Oh my gosh!
serge du preez
He definitely has more.
seamus coughlin
The adults are back in charge, as they say.
tim pool
That's the crazy thing.
What they say is always the opposite.
The adults are back in charge and they're clearly not.
Pete Buttigieg isn't even... Oh, did you see that article about Pete Buttigieg?
That said that he was a genius and a bunch of other crazy... I should pull this one up.
seamus coughlin
Did you guys remember in the 2016 election, like right towards the end there, right before it was time to vote, you got all of these people claiming, all these people in the media saying, oh yeah, like I know people who worked with Hillary.
They said she's super nice.
It was all, it was like, That's really weird that this is the first time I'm ever hearing it and I heard it like five times on the radio in the last week.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, look, the media has been in bed with the Democrats and with the, you know, the Clintons and probably the Obamas and stuff.
The better part of at least a decade.
So for them to just say, oh, hey, this is the person that we endorse and run propaganda.
Another thing, there was a law that prevented the federal government from propagandizing the American people, and that was repealed in one of the NDAAs when Barack Obama was In office, I think it was like 2011 or something like that.
But there used to be a law that said the government cannot propagandize the American people.
That law gets repealed in NDAA.
Next thing you know, social media companies are doing their best to shove whatever the Democrat Party wants down people's throats.
seamus coughlin
And actually they feel obligated to, right?
phil labonte
I mean, probably.
seamus coughlin
Because they will know that they felt so bad that Trump got elected.
They just need to make sure something like that doesn't happen again.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
I blame CNN.
Jeff Zucker.
phil labonte
Among other things.
tim pool
They were so obsessed with him they did us all the favor and gave him five billion dollars in free press coverage.
And so now they're terrified.
Their ratings are lower than Newsmax because they don't seem to get it.
If you want to be a member of the cult you got to be a full-fledged member of the cult.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
But you can't try and be A cult member and a journalist because then... They don't though.
But they had Donald Trump on a town hall.
They had the frontrunner for the Republican Party on TV and they debated him and that was not good enough.
And so they're losing audience members for doing so.
Look, CNN, you want to be in the cult?
Be in the cult.
If CNN reported real news, they would have tremendous ratings.
Could you imagine if the entire time CNN existed, they were pushing back on Russiagate lies?
They were saying like, these reports are not true, there's no evidence to suggest it.
Then people would be watching them.
They could compete with Fox News.
phil labonte
All they had to do was tell the truth, right?
Like you could tell an unbiased, True, like factual story.
The way that Donald Trump was covered for his entire presidency, once he got into office, if you covered any other president in the same way, with that much negative press, you're going to have a population that believes that he is evil.
Because the average person doesn't spend the time necessary, and they shouldn't, Honestly, they should go out and do things with their lives and live their lives, but they don't spend the time necessary to really dig down and be like, well, this isn't true that they said, and that isn't true.
There's so many people that still to this day believe that Donald Trump, the very fine people lie about the Unite the Right rally, the way that he was talking about it.
There's still people that believe that.
And that's probably what your average low information voter thinks.
tim pool
I want to read for everybody this Wired article on Pete Buttigieg.
Titled, Pete Buttigieg Loves God, Beer, and His Electric Mustang.
Sure, the U.S.
Secretary of Transportation has thoughts on building bridges, but infrastructure occupies just a sliver of his voluminous mind.
I'm going to read this for you so you can understand the depravity of the American corporate press.
And when Michael Malice says the corporate press is the enemy of the people, you'll understand why after I read you two paragraphs.
I hope you guys are ready, and please don't be mad at me for having to read this to you.
You need to hear it.
The curious mind of Pete Buttigieg holds much of its functionality in reserve.
Even as he discusses railroads and airlines, down to the pointless data that is his current stock in trade, the U.S.
Secretary of Transportation comes off like a Mensa black card holder who might have a secret go habit, or a three-second Rubik's Cube solution, or a knack for supplying, off the top of his head, the day of the week for a random date in 1404, along with a non-condescending history of the Julian and Gregorian calendars.
As Secretary Buttigieg and I talk in his under-furnished corner office one afternoon in early spring, I slowly became aware that his cabinet job requires only a modest portion of his cognitive powers.
Other mental faculties, no kidding, are apportioned to the Iliad, Puritan, Historiography, and Nosgaard's Spring, though not in the original Norwegian.
Fortunately, he was willing to devote yet another apse in his cathedral mind to making his ideas about three mighty themes.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Neoliberalism, masculinity, and Christianity intelligible to me.
phil labonte
He is being worshipped as if he is holy.
unidentified
Literally.
phil labonte
That is, that's exactly what it is.
It's like that's the way that they, you'd approach like a Cardinal or like that's the way a Catholic would approach a Cardinal or Seamus, right?
seamus coughlin
Well, in what way?
Well, like, saying all these nice things?
Well, to be so complimentary... I mean, there's, like, there's a respect that's due to authority figures, but this is obviously, like, the media just trying to worship somebody because he's their guy, right?
phil labonte
To me, it comes off as it's, like, the religious aspect.
They're saying that he's a pure, holy representation of their religion.
tim pool
I think they're trying to date him.
When I saw the excerpts posted on Twitter, I thought I was reading Babylon Beer the Onion.
Like, to say that he's, uh, what did they say?
He was willing to devote yet another apse in his cathedral mind to make these themes intelligible to me?
I'm like, that's not real, is it?
serge du preez
None of it was real.
They just said that this is what it's like.
This is what he seems like.
He seems like he'd have a Mensa card.
None of it's actually real.
It's just the biggest puff piece.
tim pool
Are they trying to prop him up for 2024?
I hope not.
Who do they have?
The Democrats have anybody?
serge du preez
Actually, you know what?
They should do that.
Because then he will not do so well.
phil labonte
I strongly believe that it's the LGBTQAI plus religion and he is looked at as holy.
tim pool
No, he's not.
They hate him.
He is a cis white man.
phil labonte
Yeah, the real devout do, but the loosely devout, like the people that would be in the media, not the people that are like the theorists that are writing the books and stuff, but the the initiated but not the thought leaders.
They're the ones that would be like, oh, Pete Buttigieg, he's a member of the LGBT community.
We want to put him in a position where we want to have him in this good light
because he's an authority, et cetera.
tim pool
Here you go, Buttigieg, whose father was a renowned Marxist scholar.
serge du preez
There it is, there it is.
phil labonte
Pete Buttigieg's father, listen, Pete Buttigieg's father is the guy
that translated Antonio Gramsci's prison notebooks which outlined cultural Marxism
in its entirety.
The idea that Marxists needed to infiltrate the Western countries in media
and in the culture before getting into the government.
That was all Antonio Gramsci written about in the 20s when he was in Italian prison.
The guy was an Albanian communist.
And Buttigieg's father was the guy that translated it all.
He's a total Marxist.
tim pool
They're all commies everywhere!
young Avengers kind of thing where the Marxists are, you know, we got to get his kid.
seamus coughlin
Well, it's also interesting, like, they do this, right, often, and I can't remember who said this initially,
but R.R. McIntyre says this, they like to skin your religion alive and then, like, wear its skin as a suit,
and so this whole idea that Pete Buttigieg is this devout religious man when he's promoting homosexuality,
and he's a Christian who cares a lot about God.
Well, it's interesting, in one of the debates, he referenced that, like, oppressing the poor and defrauding workers are very serious sins, and it's true that those are among four sins that are listed as sins that crowd to heaven for vengeance.
And one of those other four is something that Pete Buttigieg is very proud of doing, is all I'll say.
tim pool
Because, yeah, I think it's fair to say, in any context, They take the religion.
I think it was, uh, Tucker Carlson.
Who was he talking about?
The... What... What was the... What was... Remember Tucker Carlson said they're not a religion anymore?
They're not even Christian?
seamus coughlin
It's like a co... Oh, oh!
I think, uh, uh, uh, Episcopalians, probably.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
But the point is... Consistently arguing that... Shots fired.
What they're doing is in line with what the Bible says, for whatever reason they decide that it's in line with what the Bible says.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
There's a lot of people who have done that for a very long time.
seamus coughlin
For sure, but they, I mean... I'm not only referring to the left.
No, no, I get what you're saying, I get what you're saying, and I wouldn't disagree with that at all.
And political leaders for all of history have tried to use religion as a skin suit, so to speak, right?
We're gonna hollow out the actual norms and values, but we're gonna take the parts of it that we like, and we're gonna you know, promote those and then try to use this veneer of
religiosity to suggest that we're devout and serious people who care about
morality to the public. I mean, do you think Pete Buttigieg cares a whole
lot about morality?
I think he's deeply concerned. Do you think he's like a really good guy who
stays up late at night thinking about real moral problems and how to solve them?
tim pool
I don't think he thinks about any of the stuff we talk about.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
I think he was offered a do-nothing job, they said, drop out of the race and endorse Biden, and we'll give you a cushy job, you'll get paid, you don't gotta do anything.
And he's like, sounds good to me!
And then they appoint him transportation secretary, and then a train blows up, and they're like, where's Buttigieg?
And he's like, he gets a phone call, it's like it says White House on his phone, and he's like, yeah?
And they're like, where you at?
And he's like, I'm at home.
phil labonte
Too busy trying to breastfeed my new kid!
tim pool
I'm watching reruns of X-Files, and they're like, you need to come in because everyone's mad.
And he's like, you told me I didn't have to do any work.
Well, you know, you gotta put on the hard hat and come out here for a little bit.
That's what he did.
phil labonte
He wore the orange vest.
seamus coughlin
How many diehard Buttigieg supporters do you think there are in the MMA or UFC?
colby covington
I don't know.
Probably slim to none.
seamus coughlin
Alright, well, interesting.
There are some that are woke people, but not that woke, maybe.
tim pool
So there might be one.
seamus coughlin
The journalists probably all love him.
colby covington
Oh yeah, for sure.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't know, man.
I wonder if...
I wonder if something like this exists, this article, because they need to lay on the gravitas right now.
They're in desperate need of a candidate for 2024.
They have no one.
They tried Buttigieg last time.
Clearly does not work.
So instead of doing a long-storied career with articles popping up saying good things, they cram it all into one.
He's a Mensa genius who graces me because they need something.
I mean, who are they going to run?
Biden?
I don't even know if Biden's going to be around.
I'm not trying to be mean, but you know, like he's well past the, how old is he right now?
unidentified
79?
tim pool
I think he's at like 81 maybe.
Is he 81?
Let's take a look at Joe Biden.
colby covington
Joe Biden now is 79.
He'll be 80, he'll be like 83.
unidentified
He's 80?
80 years old.
phil labonte
Joe Biden now is 79. He'll be 80. He'll be like 83. He's 80 years old. Yeah, November 20th, 1840.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I did say 18 and I said November 20th.
1842.
You know what?
seamus coughlin
I'm going to be honest.
Here's the thing.
This Pete Buttigieg headline, loves God, I mean, doesn't keep the commandments.
Beer prop, maybe Bud Light, maybe Bud Light.
Electric Mustang, that's got to be the lamest Mustang I ever heard of.
serge du preez
Yeah, true.
phil labonte
The whole thing is just lame.
seamus coughlin
I just fact-checked that entire article.
tim pool
The voluminous mind.
unidentified
The reason they're doing that is because... Voluminous?
phil labonte
What?
tim pool
How do you pronounce that?
Voluminous?
phil labonte
Voluminous?
tim pool
Voluminous.
phil labonte
There's a lot of... it means big.
tim pool
Yes, I know.
It's a voluminous mind.
phil labonte
I feel like the whole thing is just, you know, a continuation of the propaganda that the government now is just shoving down people's throats.
I really think a lot changed after the NDA was signed that allowed the government to propagandize people.
I mean, it was the perfect time with social media being, you know, in everyone's pocket right about that time.
You know, everyone on social media, everyone had a cell phone by then, and I think that most people that that have the normie opinions, you know, unfortunately, they've unwittingly been completely propagandized by the most sophisticated propaganda apparatus ever invented.
It's literally people that choose to be propagandized.
They find their tribes, the people that they tend to align with most, and then they're just shoved the same, you know, stories that Basically give them the dopamine hit that they're looking for all the time.
serge du preez
Yeah, just constant reaffirmation of the things you believe.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
We're done.
We solved all the problems.
Whenever there's ever a quiet moment on the show, it's like, well, that's it.
We just we've solved everything.
seamus coughlin
We did fix it.
tim pool
We fixed everything.
We've we've got nothing left to talk about.
But Pete Buttigieg and that guy who stole those ladies clothes.
phil labonte
I think we should talk about the fact that Barack Obama knew about the Steele dossier being Clinton garbage.
tim pool
Yes.
Tell us more about that.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, Barack Obama didn't know.
seamus coughlin
By the way, I thought you were going to say Barack Obama knew that this guy was stealing luggage.
phil labonte
He might have known about that, too.
But you know, Barack Obama knew that the Senate dossier was crap.
tim pool
Bring me some clothes.
phil labonte
He was sending the DOJ to hassle President Trump before he was in office.
And then as soon as when once President Trump was in office, the DOJ continued to investigate all based on all phony charges.
They should all go to jail.
They should all be tried.
We could talk about that all night long.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
What do you guys think is going to happen next year?
Uh, they're saying Ron DeSantis is going to announce he's running for office next week.
colby covington
I think Ron DeSantis needs to worry about finishing his job in Florida.
He started a lot of things there, you know, with the Disney, the illegal immigration.
You need to finish what you start, man.
You got unfinished business over in Florida.
It's not his time either.
tim pool
He's termed out though, isn't he?
colby covington
Is he?
tim pool
What is he on?
Like you get two terms.
Is it eight years?
colby covington
I think so.
tim pool
Yeah, maybe you're right.
I'm looking it up.
Let's see, can be elected every four years, and you're not allowed to serve consecutive terms, blah blah blah, so what does that mean?
There's a term limit?
I don't know.
Uh, every four years, there's no lifetime limit on the number of times he or she may be elected.
Oh, okay.
So no, that's not true.
No, yeah.
Two consecutive terms, term limit.
unidentified
Oh man.
tim pool
So he's got one more and he just got elected last.
It was, it was, uh, last year, right?
colby covington
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
So, okay.
So he's got four more years.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
He's got a lot of work to do.
I think he's doing a great job.
There was a list from his team about all of the policies he's passed and it's just like slam dunk after slam dunk.
So.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, well with the term limit thing, I mean, one problem I have with that is the scumbag politicians are basically all the same, and there's a lot of them, so I don't know how much term limits really help there.
But when you get someone who's actually good, which is so remarkably rare, they end up getting term limited out, and then they can't keep serving.
phil labonte
Term limits should be on the bureaucracy.
So if you're appointed You know, if you had an FBI or if you're in CIA or whatever, any of the bureaucracy positions should have like, you know, eight years or whatever, then you have to get out.
Because the bureaucracy is really where the administrative state, you know, has all of its power.
It makes rules that have the effect of law without actually being voted on by the Congress or by the Senate or anything.
So it's totally independent.
Lawmaking.
So I think that the bureaucracy is our biggest problem.
tim pool
Marjorie Taylor Greene filed to impeach Joe Biden again today.
unidentified
I fully back this.
seamus coughlin
Can we just pull up the DeSantis?
I want to ask you a few more questions.
We'll pull up the DeSantis thread a little bit because he had... Oh, do it.
Yeah, no, no.
I just want to ask you.
So I think I mostly agree with you, right?
Like I like what DeSantis is doing in Florida.
And we were talking to Don Jr.
about this yesterday.
I would like to see Trump go back into the Oval Office, I think it'd be incredible if he's able to do so and just go scorched earth on the Deep State and all the people that attacked him.
Do you think, I mean, how would you feel about like a DeSantis-Trump ticket if something like that were possible?
Do you think that DeSantis should strictly stay in Florida or if there was an opportunity for him and Trump to work together, would you be in favor of that?
colby covington
I mean, I'd definitely be in favor of it if there was that opportunity, but you could tell that DeSantis doesn't want to take a backseat.
He feels entitled, like he's America's governor right now.
He's not ready for the national stage.
Donald Trump will walk circles around him in a political debate.
I think Carrie Lake would be a great vice president candidate for Trump.
She's a very smart, intellectual lady.
So I think that would be the right candidate.
I think, you know, we still got unfinished business in Florida, you know, we need to, you know, all the policies that he's doing, he needs to finish that.
And, you know, we need Trump back in office.
Obviously his policies worked and, you know, inflation was at an all time low, you know, our economy was booming, you know, our borders were secure.
We, America was first and, you know, I think that DeSantis is controlled opposition.
I think he is.
tim pool
Really?
colby covington
I do think he is.
Yeah.
tim pool
But he's doing such good things.
You know what I mean?
It's like you're getting all these things that you want in Florida.
If it's controlled opposition, they're just giving us everything we want.
But it's to earn the trust of the people so that when he runs, people believe it?
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, I mean, I just think Trump's the guy for it now.
seamus coughlin
I definitely agree with that.
tim pool
Maybe next time around.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I think I can agree with that.
It's a complicated one, but I lean in that direction.
I lean in that direction.
And I think that we were talking about this yesterday.
Trump, you know, He eats every politician he's on stage with alive.
It's impossible to come out of an interaction with him looking good.
It almost never happens, if you're arguing.
I don't think... I would hate to see him go up against DeSantis, because I do think DeSantis is doing great things in Florida, and I do think Trump would absolutely shred him if the two of them got on stage together.
tim pool
I think Trump did not do that well against Biden.
seamus coughlin
Well, he struggled with that because Biden... Because here's the thing.
Biden is a sad old man with dementia, so you don't shred him the way you shred other politicians.
You just let him talk.
Trump didn't do that, and that was his biggest mistake in those debates.
He should have just let Biden talk, but he didn't.
He kept interrupting him.
It didn't go well for him, because if you just let Biden talk, he ends up sounding like an idiot all by himself.
colby covington
It was also a two-on-one, you know, if Chris Wallace was throwing softballs to Biden, then he's giving him all the tough questions to Trump.
I think he was tagging him.
phil labonte
That's been that way since Mitt Romney and Barack Obama.
I think one of the issues, though, is that when you've got someone like Jeb Bush and Trump's roasting him, it's funny.
But no, he was right.
Moderators have been sticking their nose in for the better part of a decade.
tim pool
I think one of the issues though is that when you've got someone like Jeb Bush and Trump's
roasting him, it's funny.
When Joe Biden gets roasted, it's sad.
seamus coughlin
Well, it's kind of funny too, but the difference is when Joe Biden is on stage with you and
just allowing him to speak is going to make him look dumber than any insult you could
throw at him, then you just got to let the guy speak.
tim pool
It's like the Babylon Bee competing with reality.
It's tough.
phil labonte
Exactly.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
No, but that's a great way of putting it.
That's the actual approach when you're talking with Joe Biden.
With Hillary Clinton, you know, the moderators in those debates were also in Hillary's favor and on her side, and they were trying to Gang up on Trump, but he smoked her.
He smoked her.
It was a thing to behold and we just didn't see it as well with Biden because I think there's a different strategy needed there.
But I also think at that time with everything that Deep State was doing and all the insane impeachment trials, you can't blame him for having them thrown off his A-game.
tim pool
And I do want to say, too, the Babylon Bee often does write fact-based headlines.
And I'm not exaggerating.
They'll write something where the story will be, you know, politician signs bad policy, and then they'll write the story, but in a context mocking what they did, so it's still technically the truth, you know?
Like, it's hard to think of an example off the top of my head, but they'll write something like, you know, politician signs a bill that every American hates, And it's like, well, they did.
Like, that literally happened, and you're making fun of it, but you're telling us the truth about what happened.
They do that a lot.
And then not to mention, they have that spreadsheet of all the predictions they've made that have come true.
Or I should say, all the satirical articles they've written that have turned out to be, that have come true eventually.
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
That's crazy.
seamus coughlin
Dude, I mean, it happens.
Well, look, we don't have news these days, only reruns, right?
It's just the same cycles keep appearing over and over and over again, so it's hard not to predict things.
tim pool
Look, we were, I went to a diner today, and they were playing, uh, what's that song?
Sugar Ray?
Someday?
Someday when my life has passed me by and I just I heard it and then I said to everybody I was like
Do you know how old this song is?
What is it like 1994 or something?
Hmm I'm like that would be like being a kid as a millennial and
some and you go to a restaurant and they're blasting music from the early 60s
To us that sounds kind of like a weird thing like 60s music blasting
You know, we play contemporary music and maybe some 80s.
60s was like the oldies.
Now, you go to a restaurant, you go somewhere and they're playing music from the 90s as if it's like modern music.
And then we were talking about how you can look at furniture, you can look at appliances and know what decade it's from.
Not modern stuff.
seamus coughlin
Interesting.
Like, what, after 2010 or something?
tim pool
After the 2000s.
Like, late 90s and on, time just froze.
seamus coughlin
I will say, there was a kind of unique aesthetic in the early 2000s, where everything was kind of bubbly and curvy.
It was this weird little post-90s aesthetic that existed for a little while, but after that, I think everything got this combination of, like, straight edge with some slight curve to it, and it's pretty much stayed there.
tim pool
Like, is that when the AI took over, or the aliens or something?
seamus coughlin
Well, like, hold on, let me look it.
tim pool
You're checking to see when the aliens took over?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm Google.
unidentified
I'm gonna see if Snope has an answer.
2012.
phil labonte
2012, the end of the Aztec calendar, I think it was.
tim pool
Yeah, maybe that's it.
Maybe that's just when, like, that, like, we were only programmed by the simulation to go this far.
phil labonte
You notice that's when, that's when, that's when like, what was it?
I think over half people on earth had a- It was market saturation.
tim pool
Had a what?
serge du preez
Had a cell phone.
Basically market saturation of cell phones was like end of 2012, beginning of 2013.
And that coincided with, if I remember, December 2012 was when the Mayans predicted that there would be the beginning of a new era, not the end of the world.
tim pool
Awakening.
serge du preez
Right.
tim pool
They believed that everybody would be able to understand each other's thoughts.
serge du preez
Right.
tim pool
I was told that like in the early 2000s or whatever, they're like, everyone's going to be psychic.
And I'm like, what?
And then I looked back and I was like, Twitter.
That's why Elon wanted it.
They're fighting over the, you know, the Genesis device, the Nexus device.
serge du preez
Wow.
tim pool
Let's go to Super Chats!
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We have a members-only uncensored show coming up for you at about 10, 10 p.m.
It's gonna be fun!
Oh, this one's gonna get dark, I guess, because the Culture War episode for tomorrow has been cancelled, and we'll explain why in the Members Only show, where we talk about things that we don't say on YouTube.
David Toronto says, Colby, destroy Leon Scott.
colby covington
I will, my brother, for Forgotten Country and, you know, the Trump movement.
I'm gonna drop MAGA bombs on this dude's face and bring this title back to America where it belongs.
unidentified
Yeet.
Hell yeah.
S.A.
tim pool
Federale says, I think you're too hard on Snowden.
Greenwald and Poitras have maintained they got specific instructions not to indiscriminately publish or jeopardize anyone active.
What you say about Snowden's trove is more true for Manning.
It's true for Manning, but the thing about Snowden is that I believe he had an interview with, it might have been Colbert or John Oliver, I'm not sure, where he admitted to not actually going through the files and he did not know what was in the files he was releasing.
So, I'm not saying he was right or wrong.
I'm saying Julian Assange is a journalist.
People send him information, he publishes it.
Whistleblowers come to him, he publishes it.
That's it.
They're trying to accuse him of colluding or conspiring or something, even though he's not an American.
Edward Snowden is a leaker.
He took a trove of documents and he leaked them to journalists.
I am not giving a moral prescription or anything.
I'm just saying that's what he did.
There's a difference.
So you can be happy with what he did.
I think he revealed a lot of really important stuff about how they're spying on us and lying and the X-key score, all those things.
Very, very important information that was revealed.
But I think understanding the distinction between leaking and being a journalist, it's an important thing.
Again, if you want to pardon Snowden, I'm not saying you shouldn't.
I think you should be pardoned.
But my attitude is more like, yeah, okay, no, I get it.
Julian Assange, absolutely be pardoned.
All right, Wayback says, Yo, Colby, when is your next fight?
Leon doesn't seem to want to fight you.
colby covington
Yeah, it's, uh, you know, I've been talking to UFC.
He turned down a home date in London, UK, where he's from.
You know, he doesn't believe in his people, and he doesn't believe they deserve a pay-per-view world title fight.
So, now it's looking like August or September, the fight's gonna go down.
He's got nowhere to run, nowhere to hide.
So, this fight's gonna happen 100% for the undisputed UFC world title.
Wow.
And, uh, it's gonna be big.
tim pool
What does it look like for you in between these big fights?
Just training all the time?
colby covington
Yeah, my lifestyle, you know, I'm training 24-7, 365.
I'm training twice Twice a day, six days a week.
Wow.
tim pool
How does that work?
Are you sparring with people and fighting?
colby covington
Um, usually we don't do the sparring to like training camps, you know, just because it's a lot of wear and tear on the body when you're sparring hard, like fighting someone physically.
So, you know, usually I'm just training more like techniques, like working on my punches, working on my kicks, working on my wrestling jiu-jitsu and just making sure my techniques are, you know, world-class.
tim pool
Are there, uh, I'm sure a lot of people who are big fans and know the stuff better than I do probably already know, but are there specific, um, martial arts or styles that you prioritize or that fighters tend to prioritize?
Yeah, I think the most... Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu or something?
colby covington
Yeah, like, I would say American wrestling.
That's the most prevalent.
Really?
Yeah, martial art.
That's the best martial art, because if you're a wrestler, like, it's already in someone's head, like, I don't want to go to the ground.
So even the best strikers, they don't want to do too much because they don't want to get taken to the ground and get their face punched in.
And then the Jiu Jitsu fighters are like, oh, how are we going to get the rest of the ground?
We're just going to get punched in the face.
So.
tim pool
Oh, wow.
colby covington
American wrestling.
That's the best way for martial arts.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
That's cool.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
We'll grab some more super chats.
Raymond Field says, what's the GoFundMe for the pregnant lady?
I think her name was, what was it?
Sarah Comrie?
Was that it?
serge du preez
Something Comrie.
C-U-M-R-I-E.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
The Lion says congrats on having the next UFC welterweight champion on Tim.
Much love, Khaos.
Much love, Khaos.
colby covington
Much love, brother.
I appreciate the support and more congratulations to me to get to be on, you know, the Tim Kass podcast.
You guys are one of the smartest people alive, so it's an honor to hear him talk and get some knowledge from him today.
tim pool
We'll have a lot of fun in the members only, for sure.
colby covington
He's quoting my video!
tim pool
Raymond G Stanley Jr. says, Tim, I wanted to do a banger of a super chit.
I wanted to do real hard work, but ow, owie, ouchie, wawa.
seamus coughlin
Ha! He's quoting my video!
tim pool
Seamus, we synced up, bro, we synced up.
seamus coughlin
Thank you. That is a reference to the newest cartoon we put up on men getting their periods.
If you guys want to go over to Freedom Tunes and check that out, it was a fun one.
tim pool
Last night, after we wrapped the show, Seamus was like, Tim, I need you to pretend like you're having your period.
seamus coughlin
We weren't able to, the animation got done too late.
tim pool
Oh, we couldn't do it?
seamus coughlin
I know, we couldn't switch the voice.
Tim originally did the voice, but we ran late on production and couldn't get it in.
tim pool
Seamus only lets me voice Dr. Fauci.
seamus coughlin
No, we have a couple ideas for things.
Only Dr. Fauci.
tim pool
Let's grab some more.
Joe Mallet says BJJ purple belt.
Can't understand this.
I'm often in rougher chokes.
Also holding a choke for 15 minutes is exhausting.
He wasn't holding it for 15 minutes.
Is that what they were claiming?
It was 15 minutes?
serge du preez
I thought I read that somewhere.
tim pool
That didn't seem to make, like, I don't know, what do you think?
Does that make sense?
Holding someone down for 15 minutes?
colby covington
That does not make any sense in a joke.
Maybe like 15 seconds.
unidentified
Yeah.
colby covington
15 minutes?
No way.
tim pool
And in the video you can see he's got, it's like a fairly tight choke.
colby covington
Yeah.
tim pool
So, yeah.
And then you see him get up and they flip the guy over, they put him in the recovery position.
The dude's moving.
Look, I'm not saying anybody did anything perfect.
My view is, if you're like a big dude, and you don't know any technique, And someone is threatening to kill people and you just decide you're going to hit them because you got to stop them.
You know, they're like getting aggressive and you're going to try and subdue them and you subdue them in the only way you know how and it results in seriously hurting them.
I'm like, well, I'm not going to blame the victims.
Like if you if the only method you have is what you have.
And you try, like, it's not your fault, you know?
I don't know, I think it's ridiculous.
serge du preez
Have you ever seen, like, anything like this happen where it's been a serious injury beyond the fact, like, just beyond, like, you know, you said earlier, they're out and they're up again.
Have you seen it ever take longer than that?
Like, where they're out and they're really messed up for, like, you know, they have serious brain damage, etc.?
colby covington
No, I've never seen that.
Usually when they're out and go unconscious, you know, like, 10-20 seconds later, they'll wake up and they'll be completely fine, so...
That's what tells me there's definitely some foul play going on, and the guy had some things in his system that we don't know about, and we need to get some more facts about it before we start pointing the fingers.
tim pool
Alright, Legama says, as Neo-Maoists, the woke want us to be scared not to join their cultural revolutionary anarcho-tyranny.
Hence, everyone there is blamed for not stopping the Marine.
Neely, BLM, Drag Queens Antifa, and all are engaged in the sacred dismantling of the unjust society.
phil labonte
It is Neo-Maoism, that is a stooped observation.
serge du preez
Because it includes that whole, uh, the struggle sessions, you know?
phil labonte
Yep.
They're struggling my girl Taylor Swift today!
tim pool
What were they, really?
unidentified
Yeah!
tim pool
What happened?
phil labonte
She's dating some dude that made bad jokes and the Swifties, the lefty Swifties are all like, Taylor, you can't!
I'm like, shut up and leave Taylor alone!
tim pool
The lefty Swifties?
phil labonte
Oh my god.
tim pool
But she hates Trump, doesn't she?
She had that viral video where she was like- But it's never- you know it's never enough.
seamus coughlin
You know it's never enough.
tim pool
What do you mean?
seamus coughlin
It's never enough!
tim pool
No, I'm saying she had a video from a long time ago where she was saying that she wanted to speak out against Trump or something like that.
No, I know, but I'm saying... Or it kind of sounded like she was trying to speak up in favor of Trump.
seamus coughlin
Like, you can be on the left, but if they find one little thing that's out of whack, if you're not perfectly obedient to the cause, then you're the devil.
You're an evil, evil person.
tim pool
She said something like, he might lose, but at least I can say I tried.
seamus coughlin
Did she really?
tim pool
Yeah, and it implied, like, she wanted to speak up in support of Trump.
Wow, I've heard that. Yeah, I don't know. You gotta pull up the video because I'm like,
it seems like people are like people were saying she hated Trump. She was anti-Trump
and conservatives will still support her and ignore this.
But then she said something like he could still lose, but at least I tried or something like
that. I'm like, it sounds like she's saying she wants to speak up to support him and that
if he loses, well, at least she tried to get him elected. Right.
Yeah, are you looking it up?
seamus coughlin
Well, here's the thing.
The first article I found was, Taylor Swift is 100% right about Donald Trump from CNN.
So I assume she was against 2018.
tim pool
It was a viral clip that was going around recently.
seamus coughlin
I'm just curious what like insightful public policy prescriptions Taylor Swift had about what Donald Trump was doing in the Oval Office.
So I want to read through this.
tim pool
Gabriel Lopez says crime, open borders, and inflation aren't problems that progressives are trying to solve, but weapons they are wielding.
Oren McIntyre.
seamus coughlin
I just read the beginning of this article.
When pop megastar Taylor Swift criticized GOP candidates in her home state of Tennessee and urged people to vote for their Democratic opponents, Donald Trump responded that he now liked Taylor Swift's music, quote, about 25% less, unquote.
tim pool
Only 25% less.
unidentified
He's an honest man, he's like, look, 75% I still do enjoy it, I really do.
If he's like, that one where you're saying, you know, you need to calm down, I really enjoy it.
Quite frankly, our sog is a slamming screen door, I do feel that way.
tim pool
Cosmic Surgeon says, I shared Tim's tweet on Patriots.win and it's been hot all day.
Currently 1,606 upvotes.
Thanks, Tim.
Well, it was kind of a derivative of that John Dye joke, I think his name is.
Is it John Dye?
I hope I'm not getting his name wrong.
serge du preez
It is John Dye, yeah.
tim pool
Okay.
Where he said, if Lizzo is so beautiful, how come women get offended when I say you look like Lizzo?
And then I tweeted, start complimenting liberal women by saying they look like Dylan Mulvaney or Lizzo.
seamus coughlin
Well, there's a thing.
I saw this forever ago on Twitter, and it was killing me.
This guy was saying, I tell left-wing women on Twitter, I just DM them and say that they're like a very beautiful trans woman, and they get upset.
Why would they get upset?
unidentified
Right.
phil labonte
Like, the thing is... To be fine with it.
seamus coughlin
It's a compliment.
tim pool
The Lizzo joke hits the nail on the head with the hammer.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
They're lying.
Yeah.
They're doing this thing where they're like, it's like a trope from old movies where they're like, oh, no, you're pretty.
No, I'm ugly.
No, you're pretty.
And like, they don't really think it.
They're just saying these things.
serge du preez
Yeah.
It feels like a Monty Python bit almost.
tim pool
All right.
phil labonte
It does.
tim pool
So we did talk about this, but Paul Tascalo says, ask Colby if he's aware that under certain state laws, his hands are considered deadly weapons.
As a trained professional fighter, does that make you worry about protecting yourself?
colby covington
Yeah, definitely.
That's that's why I kind of keep myself out of a lot of situations.
You know, I don't go to bars.
I don't I don't go to a lot of public places.
I kind of I live a very sheltered life.
You know, I go to the gym and I go home and you know, I don't really engage in going out in public too much because I already know people are gonna try and get a reaction out of me because they know I'm a professional fighter and they know if I touch them they can just sue me so yeah I never put myself in those positions.
tim pool
Try and try and get some fame or something out of it some PR stunt.
colby covington
Some fame or just suing because they know we're lethal weapons and if we touch them you know they know we make good money so they could just come after us.
tim pool
There's this old viral video from like 20 years ago where there's a professional fighter backing away with his hands up and these like four guys are like yelling at him and waving their fingers.
And then they run at him and then he just puts his fists up and he goes, one, two, three, four.
And then he just keep, as he's backing away and they're charging him and they all just go down.
And then he puts his hands up like, nah, like stop, dude.
It was an awesome, awesome video.
People might know which one I'm talking about.
It's funny to watch.
Like the dude who knows how to fight is begging you not to fight him.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
You don't want to go there, man.
Alright, I'll grab some more.
phil labonte
You know, if people realize exactly how tiring getting into fights... Like, after two rounds of rolling, I'm done.
My cardio's bad, and like I said, I'm a white belt, so it's not like I'm some kind of fighter or anything.
But man, that stuff just tuckers you right out.
tim pool
Mark Zuckerberg could beat you up.
phil labonte
Absolutely.
tim pool
You saw that?
seamus coughlin
That's brutal.
tim pool
Yeah, he won.
Didn't he win like a gold or something like that?
colby covington
Oh, he paid him to... They definitely paid off his opponent.
tim pool
Yeah, I was gonna say, are you kidding me?
colby covington
When he has a little freaking...
Pretzel, like, it's tiny.
seamus coughlin
But he's a robot!
So maybe he has those steel bones?
tim pool
That's in that geek.
There's two ways I think he won.
Well, there's three ways. The most likely way is that as he was grabbing them to throw them
he had a wad of cash in his hand that he was putting into their hand.
And then they go, whoa!
The second is that he's an android and so he just went, grabbed them and they're like,
I can't move!
And the third was he trained really, really hard, and then, you know.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I don't think so.
The last one seems ridiculous.
phil labonte
The thing is, like, when you're loaded like that, and you actually have that kind of time, like, I get why, like, Zuckerberg is, you know, spending the time doing jiu-jitsu, and why, like, um, what's his name?
Bezos is, like, all jacked now.
Like, you got no excuse to be out of shape and be a, you know, a doughboy.
Get out and do something.
You got all the money in the world.
tim pool
No, I do think that Zuckerberg probably trained and probably won.
Like, we're not acting like he entered the UFC or something and beat the best in the world.
seamus coughlin
Wouldn't that be hilarious though, being paid the UFC off?
He's like, you guys gotta let me win.
colby covington
Oh, he's been talking about it with them, man.
He's been like buying out like, he'll go to UFC events and he'll buy out like the crowd and like show, and he's trying to get it like on Metaverse or something.
phil labonte
No way!
No way!
unidentified
Can you imagine what metaverse fights would be like?
tim pool
You know how they do those celebrity fights?
Like they do the YouTuber boxing matches?
But then what about like Logan Paul versus Mark Zuckerberg?
seamus coughlin
Oh my gosh.
What about just everyone who's been banned in Mark Zuckerberg?
unidentified
You just gotta get into a ring with everyone who's banned from Facebook.
seamus coughlin
Him and Trump are in the ring together.
tim pool
Like, the story about Zuckerberg winning that fight...
I don't think it was a super high-level fight.
I think it was a very low-level fight.
He probably won.
colby covington
Well, it wasn't a fight.
Let's get the terms right.
It was a jiu-jitsu match.
The difference between getting punched in the face in a fight and doing some rolling in jiu-jitsu.
tim pool
And getting a point or whatever.
colby covington
Getting wins and criteria.
seamus coughlin
His younger sister called him a mean name.
And then he, you know, hit her.
tim pool
I don't know.
I think Mark Zuckerberg could probably beat you up, Seamus.
seamus coughlin
Mark Zuckerberg?
You think Zuckerberg and I?
tim pool
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Tim, I don't even know if I can do this show anymore.
That was the most disrespectful thing I've ever heard in my life.
tim pool
Like, I'm trying to be reasonable.
I'm trying to be reasonable, though, because, like, I don't train fighting, and neither do you, but Phil does, and obviously Colby is the best.
seamus coughlin
And yet you pointed at me and not yourself.
tim pool
No, but what I'm saying is, like, to be fair, I think it's reasonable to argue that a person who is on camera training in any kind of, like, I'm gonna give him credit that he could probably take it.
seamus coughlin
I just don't know if I believe it.
tim pool
I think Mark Zuckerberg could beat me up.
seamus coughlin
I just don't know if I believe that he's actually training.
You don't think so?
tim pool
I don't think so.
seamus coughlin
He's the expert, Tim.
tim pool
Here's the physical training I have.
I have running and jumping off of things.
I can climb really well from skating.
I can, like, probably do parkour and stuff.
So that gives me some advantage in a fight.
But if Zuckerberg's been training in grappling, I think he probably... I wouldn't know what to do.
I don't have that training, you know?
phil labonte
I'm doomed.
I got a sub-second draw, though.
That's it.
colby covington
I don't think he's been training.
I think it's a photo op.
I think he's just trying to fool people like, oh, I'm this tough guy, you know, because everybody knows he's a little nerd.
He ain't tough.
There's nothing tough about him, man.
He's afraid of shadows out there.
tim pool
What about Bezos though?
You see the picture of him, he's like working out.
colby covington
He's juiced up on steroids.
Everybody knows that.
You can't have that type of transformation.
It's obvious.
It's not funny.
It's facts, dude.
100% put some testosterone, HGH, antivir and all the other drugs, you know, the cocktail of drugs that people are doing with steroids these days.
seamus coughlin
Here's a question then, so you were saying like Bezos, he just got too big too fast.
Based.
How long did it, I guess I didn't pay attention to that transformation, how quickly did this guy get jacked?
colby covington
I don't know, within like a couple months.
unidentified
Oh wow.
seamus coughlin
Was it a couple months?
colby covington
Yeah.
phil labonte
Like the same amount of time it took him to make like a billion dollars.
unidentified
Real fast.
tim pool
Let's grab some more.
seamus coughlin
He literally just bought a guy's muscles and implanted them into his body.
colby covington
I mean, dude, science is... People are doing that, yeah.
tim pool
Or he's just working on the new genetic modification technology.
There's a... Ford Fisher was tweeting about a documentary he did where people are injecting themselves with a gene therapy, an experimental gene therapy, outside of U.S.
jurisdiction.
I don't know the full details, but you guys can check it out.
Ford Fisher on Twitter.
He's got a YouTube channel, too.
And he was... It's basically what these people do.
Is they inject themselves, I'm probably getting it wrong, but it does something to deactivate fat production and increase muscle production.
There's something about the mechanism by which we switch between fat production and muscle production causes some kind of aging.
It's a very simple way of putting it.
seamus coughlin
Interesting.
tim pool
And one guy's basically saying, I don't expect to starve anytime soon in modern society, so I'd rather have proper muscle regeneration, which makes you live longer.
And so they're injecting themselves with this gene therapy to Extend their lives.
And they've been doing it for a while, apparently.
phil labonte
What you're describing sounds like Trenbolone.
I mean, it's like, just like, you know, like if you're taking if it if it suppresses fat and helps build muscle, that just that sounds like gear.
Yeah, I'm gonna go to a doctor here pretty soon because I'm in my forties.
I'm gonna see if I can get some testosterone replacement or whatever.
serge du preez
I think we can all agree that Bill Gates has no excuse anymore for looking the way he does.
seamus coughlin
He doesn't!
tim pool
For real!
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
Dude, it would be the greatest thing if we got, like, Bezos, Zuckerberg, Gates, Dorsey.
Who else could we get?
serge du preez
Let's get Soros in there.
unidentified
Why not?
tim pool
Well, he's too old, though.
He's a little old, I guess.
I guess Bill Gates is, too.
But I think it's funny how Bill Gates is telling everybody how unhealthy they are and he's just like very out of shape.
seamus coughlin
It's really wild actually.
tim pool
What do we got here?
John Starling says, after a 15 hour day welding, watching Tim Cass for the next WW Champ and favorite UFC fighter making my night, hello from North Carolina Colby.
colby covington
Shout out to my man from North Carolina, man.
Much love and respect and, you know, God bless you.
tim pool
Vindicated Dasha says, you say get out of the cities, but I'm the caretaker of a 90 year old grandparent that refuses to leave and it keeps us stuck no matter how much we want to leave.
I hear ya.
And another good argument made to me was someone said that they got divorced through no choice of their own and they can't leave their kids in the city.
They need to be an influence for their kids.
They can't leave.
They can't leave.
And I'm like, yeah, that's true.
Like, I would never advocate someone abandon their children if they were stuck there because of laws.
Just makes a really hard situation.
That's rough.
serge du preez
True.
phil labonte
It's true, you know?
I mean, if you can, get out.
But it's not like the people around this table here are, like, unaware that people have, you know, serious problems in their life and serious issues with just picking up and leaving, you know?
Yeah.
tim pool
Leon says, 1930s Germany, publicly declare support or else.
That's what it was like, right?
serge du preez
Yeah.
unidentified
True, man.
tim pool
That's crazy.
Let's grab some more Super Chats.
John Modeski says, Colby, these dudes never even been punched in the face before.
Do your thing.
Be like water, my friend.
seamus coughlin
He came here to fight all of us?
colby covington
I only beat up crybaby libs.
I don't punch conservatives in the face.
Especially, these are some of the biggest fighters in the world right here.
They're fighting up against the establishment.
They're fighting all the deck that's stacked against them, you know, so.
tim pool
And I'm gonna push back.
colby covington
You guys are real fighters, for real.
tim pool
ReadyToRumble says, Tim has never been in a fight his whole life.
He has ran away.
I have been in many fights.
Um, I wouldn't say I've been in large amounts of fights, but I appeared on Tucker Carlson Tonight specifically because when I was in Boston and an Antifa guy started swinging at me, I tightened my muscles, leaned in, and said, do it.
And I filmed him as he kept trying to swing at me and make me flinch, and so they asked me to come on and talk about it, and I was like, look man, if this Antifa guy, while I'm livestreaming, wants to hit me, hit me.
Like, it's not the end of the world, I'm not gonna die, I'm not gonna go to the hospital, I'll be sore maybe, depending on what, and then I'll have on camera this guy attacking me unprovoked.
So make my day.
Like, people rag on me because there's a video where a guy pulls my hat off, and then I immediately turn around and threaten and knock all of his teeth out, and I'm like, they're making fun of me because I got really angry and overreacted.
I'm like, if there was no police there, I probably would have gotten into a fight.
So, like, dude.
phil labonte
Don't, don't put, like, you shouldn't put your hands on people.
Like, don't take people's hats and don't grab people and try and pick in fights like that.
Don't do that.
tim pool
Well I was in Boston and I had this Antifa guy swinging at me and then stopping just short of the camera and then swatting at me and I'm standing there and then I don't even know how long after another guy walks up and grabs my hat and then and I'm surrounded by cops and I'm just like already really angry and wanting to feel some kind of emotional satisfaction because I know I can't hit an Antifa guy I'm not gonna get in a fight while I'm on the ground and this guy's trying to provoke me and then some dude puts his hands on me and now I'm just like I was pissed.
I was triggered.
I was mad triggered.
And I'm surrounded by cops and I'm just like, I'm not gonna overreact.
I can't do anything.
serge du preez
That's what they want.
colby covington
They want a reaction from you.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's called mid-level violence.
It's like when, you know, I'm not touching you, I'm not touching you, I'm not touching you.
The point of that is to get a reaction out of you.
And there are things that they do that still counts as assault when they do, you know.
colby covington
Yeah, that should be assault.
Touching someone, invading their personal privacy.
I mean, you have everything to lose.
You know, you have an empire.
These guys are nobodies and they have nothing to lose.
So they have everything to gain.
tim pool
Yeah, all right.
We'll grab some more super chats.
Amanthi says, I would give up my right to vote if it meant Ben Crump was disbarred and we never heard from him again.
But that would be like you voting to make it so that he's disbarred and that's like a good, that's a good vote.
That's a great vote.
phil labonte
Very good trade.
unidentified
Alright.
tim pool
Self Made Woman says, to cover all bases, does City Bike Karen have a timestamp for the bike?
According to the New York Post, they reviewed the timestamp and confirmed it was from the moment.
That one minute before the video is when she took the bike out.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, and also people in chat, because people were asking, why did they blur the timestamp out?
People in chat were saying it's so that random people on the internet don't know when she gets off shift or what her schedule is, yeah.
Oh, right, right, right.
tim pool
And that's why the New York Post said they confirmed it without revealing the time.
They don't want people to go find her job.
Makes sense.
Yeah, see a better feature says on the receipt, why is the timestamp the only thing blacked out?
Did she go back after the fact and rent the bike in order to fake it?
What legit reason is there to redact the timestamp?
She's leaving working pregnant and people are threatening her so they don't want to reveal what her shifts are or whatever.
But I mean, everybody still knows where she works.
It's a crazy world.
I remember the first cancelling.
Do you remember the first cancelling?
The woman on Twitter was flying somewhere, and she tweeted a joke about AIDS, and then while she's in the air with no internet, the tweet's going viral like crazy, and when she lands, she finds out everyone in the world hates her, she's fired from her job, and she had no idea why, and she was making a woke joke.
She said something like... She won't happen to me because I'm white or something like that.
She said something like she hopes she doesn't get AIDS but it won't happen because she's white.
And she was trying to make a left-wing joke about how white people see themselves.
About white privilege.
About how, right, they see themselves unaffected and they're not part of the impoverished communities.
It did not matter.
The left doesn't have humor.
So it's like, nope, that was just racist.
Wake up call for this lady.
phil labonte
Well, it was a wake-up call for the world because that was kind of the first time that it happened, you know?
tim pool
Ashley says, the bike Karen is definitely a Democrat.
She said, you're hurting my fetus.
Us conservative women call it what it is, a baby, even when we are growing them.
I noticed that too.
She said, you're hurting my fetus.
serge du preez
So weird.
tim pool
Like, this is the problem.
If these people intentionally want these things to happen, who are we to tell them they should not have them?
Like, you know, if you tell me you want lower taxes, you know, Colby, and then you vote for it, and then you come back later and say you got lower taxes, I'd be like, oh, congratulations.
If a liberal in the city says I want violent criminals out on the street, and then a violent criminal attacks them, am I gonna be like, oh, no, I'm not gonna go to a guy who voted for lower taxes and be like, oh, you poor man, you got lower taxes.
I'm like, well, you voted for it.
I don't know what else to say, man.
See, that's what we're doing.
We're assuming that they need our sympathy.
I don't know who she voted for, but it's a fair point about her calling it a fetus.
If she did vote for it, we should be saying congratulations to her.
Congrats, yeah.
I'm happy for you that you got what you wanted.
Me, I got some chickens.
I wanted those chickens.
They created more of themselves.
I'm very happy that I have them.
You wanted violent criminals to be released on the street.
They are now, and you got that.
We're all living our best lives.
Congratulations.
But now they're raising money off it, too.
See, this is the thing I'm concerned about.
The Daniel Penney thing I get.
This is a guy who people are cheering for.
He's a hero.
He's a Marine.
He's trying to stop someone who is very, very violent.
This woman, I don't know for sure yet, but I am concerned about someone being a lib who votes for these policies, gets victimized by them, and then comes to us and says, now give us money.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
Like, that's where I'm like, mmm.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Fishy.
I don't want to be doing that.
I don't want to fall for that.
Tom Pant says no.
Stop with this, do whatever you want, but don't go after kids and don't break laws.
That's why we are where we are today.
Objective morality and enforcement thereof is required to preserve a stable culture.
Yeah, I agree mostly.
I've talked about this quite a bit, that it doesn't matter what we think the principles are or aren't because we have our own moral lines.
And trying to simplify the idea, both the left and the right will argue that parents have a right to choose what's best for their kids.
Except when it comes to like this trans kids thing splits it, where the left says the government has no right to tell me what to do with my children if they're aborting them, but the government has a right to intervene to take a child from his parents if the child is trans.
So it's like the principle is irrelevant.
You know what I mean?
The morality there is strictly subjective morality of leftist tribal groups.
A baby in the womb has no right to life, and the government can't intervene, but a child outside the womb who wants to get sterilized, the government can seize, and then, without the parent's knowledge, sterilize.
So, like, you can't... Yeah.
unidentified
It's almost like they just hate innocent life or something.
tim pool
You know, I think they want there to be less people.
phil labonte
The left doesn't believe in innocence as well.
seamus coughlin
That's also true.
phil labonte
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Well, it's interesting because they don't profess to believe in innocence,
but on a deeper level, I think they do.
phil labonte
They don't believe in innocence of children.
seamus coughlin
They hate it.
phil labonte
They want the whole project of the left that the LGBT stuff in schools and stuff
is essentially just to destroy the innocence of children.
That is really what, and this is, I'm an agnostic, so like me and Seamus aren't,
like Seamus is the religious guys.
It's not like I'm like pumping out like some kind of, you know, religious take,
but they're still evil.
tim pool
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seamus coughlin
Literally not allowed to.
tim pool
I think you are, but it's family.
I'm gonna keep it family friendly.
seamus coughlin
Fair enough.
tim pool
Talking about medical procedures and stuff.
We'll keep it for the members only, uncensored.
So again, at TimCast.com, smash the like button, subscribe to the channel.
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Colby, do you want to shout anything out?
colby covington
You know, just shout out to all the Patriots out there holding down the line, man.
You know, we're getting stripped of our freedoms every day.
So, you know, they're pushing the line farther and farther.
They're coming for our children.
They're coming for all our Our rights as citizens.
So, you know, shout out to all the patriots out there holding the line.
tim pool
Right on.
seamus coughlin
Awesome, man.
Thank you for coming on and everything.
My name's Jameis Coghlan.
I'd like to shout out Freedom Tunes.
I make cartoons.
We released one today.
It was referenced in the Super Chats that Tim was reading earlier.
So I really think you guys will enjoy it if you go over there and watch it.
Thank you very much.
Freedom Tunes.
YouTube.com slash Freedom Tunes.
phil labonte
I am Phil Labonte.
I am PhilThatRemains on Twitter.
I am PhilThatRemainsOfficial on Instagram.
The band is All That Remains.
We are available.
You can check us out on Spotify, Apple Music, and Pandora, probably.
YouTube as well.
serge du preez
And I am Serge.com.
I'm watching Tim and Seamus throw paper airplanes at each other because that's how professional we keep it here.
He missed!
seamus coughlin
Yeah, he did miss.
He literally missed.
serge du preez
Yeah, follow me on Twitter.
Let's argue.
You know how it goes.
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What am I doing?
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