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May 17, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - GOP Rep Files To EXPEL Adam Schiff Over Durham Report Revelations w/Donald Trump Jr.
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tim pool
Peace out yo!
Many of you heard about the details.
It effectively confirms that there was a soft coup from the intelligence agencies against a sitting president.
And man, does it rock my confidence in this country because many of these people are not going to be held to account.
But we do have new developments.
Rep Ana Paulina Luna has filed for the expulsion of Adam Schiff, who lied repeatedly about evidence and proof that the Trump family was involved in some kind of conspiracy to subvert this United States.
So I'm really excited to see that breaking news, and we're going to be talking a lot about this because we've got Donald Trump Jr.
hanging out with us.
Normally I do the joining us later, but I just want to jump straight into it because I think this is going to be the bulk of the conversation, what's currently happening.
We do have a bunch of other news stories too, so we'll just go right into it.
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As I already mentioned, joining us tonight to talk about this is the man himself, Donald Trump Jr.
donald trump-jr
What's going on, guys?
How you doing?
tim pool
I think everybody knows who you are.
Do you want to do a quick intro, I suppose?
donald trump-jr
Don Trump Jr.
tim pool
There you go.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Thanks for hanging out.
donald trump-jr
This will be fun.
tim pool
Good to be with you, man.
Even before the show, we're talking about your family being framed by politicians, by intelligence agencies, for being traitors and spies.
It's bigger than Watergate.
It's insane.
donald trump-jr
Like, significantly.
And when you look at the amount of people that were involved, the resources that took place to create this thing, the level of people, Tim, that knew, and were all in on it, and were just fine with that.
I mean, it's not just, you know, Comey as the director of the CIA, but Obama knew, and Biden knew, and Hillary knew, and everyone knew.
tim pool
And they all knew they were lying.
donald trump-jr
And it didn't matter.
Yeah, well, the Anna Polina stuff's incredible, because, like, yeah, Adam Schiff, I remember this, just, and I take it pretty personally, because I was the guy that they said, I'm gonna go to jail for life, they were gonna try me for treason, also a crime punishable by death, you know, minor details for me at this point, it's just another Tuesday, but, you know, that guy was on TV every day saying he had seen the evidence, he had it, I was going to jail for life, and you're sitting there being like, I don't even understand what's going on, and like, let alone That this is happening, but they could do that, that the media could so gleefully run with it as though it's the gospel without actually anything there.
tim pool
They won awards for it.
donald trump-jr
Well, that's the interesting one.
I think my father's actually suing some of them.
I think it's the Pulitzer Committee because, you know, the Washington Post, I think the New York Times, they won Pulitzer Prizes for the journalism surrounding Russia, Russia, Russia.
tim pool
That's unfair.
donald trump-jr
None of it actually happened.
tim pool
I'm sorry, that's unfair.
You called it journalism.
donald trump-jr
I apologize.
The propaganda around Russia, well, let's say, honestly, at this point, that's what they are.
You can see that.
You can see, you know, the joy they take when someone who's actually a dissenting voice like a Tucker Carlson comes off the air.
You could see it when, you know, I guess it was Jake Tapper's voice was cracking last week after the CNN town hall, because, you know, even with weeks of preparation to try to take out Donald Trump, it didn't work out quite like they had planned.
And, you know, what's really interesting, perhaps, Tim, Just seeing the Durham report like the just total blackout on mainstream Media like no one's even talking about it.
It's like it didn't even happen It's like we're just gonna not even talk about it because if it's not good for the narrative Not only will we not cover it a little bit.
We won't even acknowledge it the the democracy folks We heard a lot of screaming about democracy and Trump's the greatest threat to democracy like they're awfully silent because this feels like an actual threat to democracy and yet I don't hear anyone bitching about it.
tim pool
So we'll do it.
So this is gonna be fun.
Thanks for joining us.
I'm very excited.
It's an honor and a privilege, sir.
We've got Seamus Coghlan.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, by the way, we were complaining about it all day yesterday.
I was complaining about it on my podcast, which is called Shamer, by the way.
Y'all can check that out.
On Rumble, my name's Seamus Coghlan.
I create cartoons on a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.
We're going to be releasing a cartoon tomorrow that I think y'all are going to enjoy.
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Thank you.
tim pool
We've got Hannah-Claire Brimelow hanging out.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, hi, I'm Hannah-Claire Brumlow.
I'm a writer for TimCast.com.
You should ignore Shameless' podcast and go to TimCast.com and click on the read tab.
donald trump-jr
I think you should just go check out my Rumble podcast, by the way.
unidentified
We're going to do Shameless plugs one day.
donald trump-jr
I'm a Trump... I am the master of Shameless plugs.
unidentified
It's too bad it's five minutes in and we're already putting out the Trump letter.
donald trump-jr
You can't turn that crap off if you have those genes, okay?
Just relax, okay?
So, I gotta do that.
And I don't do that often, but I gotta, you know, I gotta play the Trump card if we're all doing gratuitous plugs.
unidentified
Quite frankly, Shaver is the greatest podcast you have to watch.
donald trump-jr
I let it go.
I let it go at first.
I didn't even include it in my intro, but if everyone else is plugging, I'm gonna plug.
seamus coughlin
That's why we're here, baby!
donald trump-jr
What's your show?
I just have the Triggered podcast on Rumble, where I do much of the same.
It's a long-form version of a lot of the rants that people have been watching me do on social for a while, and I had some fun with that.
I just enjoy the platform and being able to say whatever I want, and I do.
It's awesome.
tim pool
I'm like you, too.
seamus coughlin
What time do you stream?
donald trump-jr
I go 6 o'clock Mondays and Thursdays.
seamus coughlin
Oh, nice.
I do Tuesdays and Thursdays at 6 o'clock.
So on Thursdays, you guys can tune into mine.
tim pool
Alright, and then we got Surge pressing all the buttons.
serge du preez
Yeah, today is gonna be fun.
unidentified
Yeah?
donald trump-jr
Yeah, should be good.
serge du preez
Yeah, I'm excited.
donald trump-jr
We've been talking about this for a little while.
We had to call in.
Yeah, and I called in a couple weeks ago, and that was cool, and sort of unexpected.
Alex was like, hey, you wanna call in?
I was like, yeah, sure.
tim pool
And he's like, I'm just gonna call him on the phone.
I was like, okay, I guess.
But you ended up joining through the Discord, and I wanna jump to the story, but I just have to say, it was a beautiful moment when you just yelled, I am a Trump!
donald trump-jr
I'm not going to be outplugged.
My shame is concrete.
seamus coughlin
I did beat you to it.
I got to the plugs first.
donald trump-jr
I didn't even mention it in my intro.
I'm like, I'm just going to let it slide.
I'm not going to do that.
But if everyone else is plugging, I'm plugging.
tim pool
Let's jump into the story and go right to it.
We got this from DC Drano on Twitter.
Check this out.
Breaking news.
GOP Rep Ana Paulina Luna submits House resolution to expel Rep Adam Schiff from Congress in light of Durham report findings showing his involvement with illegal spying on US President.
It's a resolution that has resolved that pursuant to Article 1, Section 5, Clause 2 of the Constitution of the United States, Representative Adam Schiff be, and he hereby is, expelled from the House of Representatives.
Now, I'm not convinced they'll actually do it.
donald trump-jr
No, unfortunately not.
tim pool
They should do it.
And outside of the spying, I do want to mention that he published the private information of an American journalist, once again in an attempt to smear your family.
But let's jump into this.
donald trump-jr
Well, there's a lot more to it.
I mean, the whole thing.
Remember, I've done 50 hours of testimony before the various committees.
House Intelligence, Senate Intelligence twice, House Judiciary.
And when he was on House Intelligence and doing that, you know, I was in front of that committee and I got out.
It was like I got in at like 9 a.m.
I think I got out at 7 p.m., 7.30.
And I go and I was like, OK, guys, what happened today?
I'm looking at my Twitter at 7.30 at night and it's like literally every bathroom break there was a leak.
Literally, like, you know, this is what's going on in the room, and he's just out there, and it has to be him, right?
Because, like, you've never met somebody, the guy's never met a camera he didn't love, and they more than, you know, gleefully carry his nonsense.
And I was just like, oh my god, like, my lawyers weren't allowed to take their phones into the room, but he can go leak to people from the Intelligence Committee.
I mean, these people shouldn't have Classified, you know, documentation.
It's no different than, like, Swalwell, who was sleeping with a Chinese spy, and it's perfectly natural to leave him on the Intelligence Committee.
I'm like, I don't understand.
But, you know, that was going on.
I was part of three of the big, you know, the walls are closing in bombshells.
You heard many of those, but three of the big ones were me, and one of them was that I had somehow gotten the Julian Assange emails or information that Clinton emails before, but the reality is Like, some random dude, like, DM'd him to me, I think it was, or emailed him to me, and just literally, like, spamming, like, possible Trump email accounts, and, like, it ended up in my inbox, and I'm looking, and I'm like, well, I don't have, I didn't have these things before they came out, but they took, it was, like, 14, right?
Like, August 14th, or whatever the date was, right?
They just deleted the one in the email, so it looked like I had it on August 4th.
unidentified
Wow.
donald trump-jr
It was released on, like, August 8th, or August 10th, But you delete the one from 14, it looked like I had it four days before the rest of the world, not six days after the rest of the world.
You know, because you get a lot of that spam.
It was just totally, like, that was a gotcha moment.
It's known now, because we have the emails that we handed over, and we have the emails they used in evidence, and it's like, there's not even a correction.
There's not even a correction.
It's like it's still real.
And so it was just that constant lies.
Yes, my Time Magazine cover was truly special.
tim pool
So this is Vox.com from 2017.
It says, red-handed, Time's latest cover captures how bad things are for Donald Trump.
The Russia scandal hits home by David Von, is it Drell?
I think at this point, it's now been about six years since this Time Magazine cover.
If... red-handed what?
Nothing happened.
It was all nonsense.
donald trump-jr
Yeah, the whole thing was a lie.
But again, that didn't matter.
And that's the thing.
I mean, even then for us and for me, it's like, well, there must be something to it.
I mean, you know, the FBI is saying these things, the CIA, these are... You believe there are honorable institutions on some level?
Yeah, I believe that.
I have friends in law enforcement and I now make the distinction sort of between the door kickers and the bureaucrats.
Right the door kickers like they come up to me all the time.
It's like I can't believe what's going on It's disgusting and like but like they also know if they say anything they're fired or they'll never get promoted just like they're doing in the military if you don't if you don't take the VAX times 12 like You're no longer a fighter pilot.
We'll just put a Someone else who checks a bunch of boxes, I gotta be careful.
tim pool
Sounds a bit cowardly.
donald trump-jr
It is, but that's unfortunately now the game.
Again, no one's talking about this story right now.
It's kind of a big deal.
I mean, Watergate's a big deal.
They still talk about Watergate as being a big deal.
The people who worked on Watergate, they haven't really done much since then, but they still hold this legendary status for some reason.
And they've been commenting, Bob Woodward and others have been commenting on this story for six years, as though they're the foremost authority on it.
Now, it's all nonsense.
But, like, where's, like, the, oh, we got this wrong.
Where's the mea culpa?
Like, it doesn't even matter.
seamus coughlin
You know that's never coming.
donald trump-jr
No, of course it's never coming because journalism is dead and that's why it's so important what you guys do and what I try to do.
I'm sure what you do as well.
seamus coughlin
I am a journalist.
On Tuesdays and Thursdays at 6 p.m.
I appreciate it, Shane.
donald trump-jr
You're welcome.
You know, we're all sort of in this together because the reality is, like, we're taking on media and, you know, some of these things that I do actually genuinely believe were once noble institutions, but, like, Man, you're going downhill quick.
seamus coughlin
Well, here's the thing.
tim pool
It's evil.
These people are... Look, I think that when your dad gets re-elected, we need an AG who is going to launch criminal probes.
I'm not saying every journalist, I'm not saying every Democrat, I'm not saying every member of the intelligence agency or federal law enforcement are criminals.
I'm saying it is clear that there was an attempt, a seditious conspiracy.
No, they're trying to... I'll phrase it this way.
Right now, what do we know?
There's something called a standalone complex.
Are you familiar with the term?
donald trump-jr
I've heard of the term.
I'm not well versed in it.
tim pool
I think it originates from Ghost in the Shell.
It's a manga, an anime.
But the idea is when a bunch of people all do something In a way that looks like a conspiracy, like if there's a crowd of people and all of a sudden everybody stands up, you might think it was coordinated, but it's not.
That's what we can say happened right now, but I will say this.
All of these people who pushed the lies, Hillary Clinton making these false claims, the FBI then chasing after evidence that was not correct, the manipulation of evidence to further FISA warrants, Suggests probable cause that there was a seditious conspiracy.
donald trump-jr
Correct.
tim pool
At the bare minimum, I am hoping that we actually see a real AG get in, when your dad gets re-elected, and he just says, we're gonna start filing some criminal investigations, likely some criminal indictments, and then these people end up getting charged.
I think Adam Schiff is criminally culpable for going on TV over and over again, trying to subvert this country, and so distrust in our institutions.
donald trump-jr
So just reverse it, right?
Reverse the parties for a second.
If Republicans did what Adam Schiff did, they'd be in the gulags right now.
I mean, someone would be in Gitmo.
I don't want to necessarily talk about myself that way the whole time, but if I was Hunter Biden, they wouldn't be removing the team at the IRS to hand it over to the DOJ because they had a whistleblower.
That whistleblower would be beyond reproach.
Uh, you know, if I was on video, I mean, you know, if I did one of the hundreds of degenerate things, like, it would be disqualifying, not just for me, but for my father, but for him, it's okay.
You know, millions of dollars, the shell entities that were magically formed, uh, to do business, the second Joe Biden had authority to do, only in the countries that Joe Biden had any kind of authority where he could manipulate an outcome, like, magically, these people are all of a sudden business people.
I mean, we got in trouble for building buildings when I think there's a pretty solid record that our family's been building buildings for 60 years.
It's, you know, it's that, you know, the two-tiered levels and two-tier system of justice right now that's just so flagrant.
It's so in your face.
Even those who may hate Trump or me or whatever, like, I don't think that anyone can objectively look at it.
Maybe they won't say it in polite company, but when they're sitting there by themselves at night being like, okay, well, there's a lot of BS here.
tim pool
Is, uh, when your dad gets re-elected, I don't know if you speak for him, and I do think there's something silly of being like, Trump Jr.'
's here, let me ask you what your dad says.
donald trump-jr
Yeah, and I don't, because, you know, a lot of... Candidly, there's so much every day, like, I couldn't keep up with the insanity to begin with, right?
There's not enough time in the...
tim pool
I'm just hoping that he fires everybody.
Classically.
Classic Trump, you're fired.
Little Cobra.
To all the bureaucrats, I hope that a real AG comes in and says, this country needs a fresh start.
This corruption's gotta go.
donald trump-jr
Yeah, well listen, I do know this in talking to him.
I mean, coming in as an outsider was great, but you also have the pitfalls of that, which is, again, you can't fathom That, honestly, even like a Democrat politician at the time, now we're, you know, everything's in hindsight, right?
So it feels like we're so much, like, obviously, you know, Wuhan lab leak, right?
Like, of course it was, like, now I always believed that was the point of origin, but, you know, did we really think, you know, our health officials would literally subvert the health of the American people?
Like, You know, we know that now, but at the time, you know what I mean?
You know, one of the things they gave my father a lot of stuff over January 6th.
I don't know what I can say on YouTube or not, but I don't think it's controversial, but why didn't he pardon people in the seven days between that and, like, we didn't know.
They didn't release any information.
We were told it was a violent this.
We weren't shown any video.
Two years later, we finally get the videos because Republicans are able to release that, but there's a reason they control that information.
You can see that happen then, but in that period of time, you actually didn't know much.
tim pool
I actually think, if we look at the CNN debate that your dad had with Caitlin Collins, he answered rather well.
Uh, she said, why did you wait three hours to say, you know, no violence?
And he pulls out the tweets and he's like, half an hour after they breached, I said, no violence, no violations.
And then, are you going to pardon people?
And he said, I'll take a look at it.
Some people obviously did bad things and they shouldn't be pardoned.
He's completely right.
donald trump-jr
Yeah.
No, no one believes you should be able to go punch a cop randomly, but like if you're getting a tour through the Capitol, but you know, it's a little different, right?
tim pool
The police opened the door for you and let you in.
Why are you being criminally charged?
donald trump-jr
You know, the video, the sound bites that you hear from that, I mean, I think it demands much further investigation.
And honestly, the bigger thing is, frankly, almost regardless of even if you did punch a cop, I think you're still entitled to due process.
unidentified
Yeah.
donald trump-jr
And that's the problem that seems to be totally missing.
Meaning, you know, due process doesn't mean we put you in jail for two years or maybe we'll deal with it someday.
Yep.
And, you know, even with all of this stuff going on, even with all the conspiracy theories that have come true, even with everything that we now know, They want to cast a wider net around January 6th.
I'm like, really?
That's what you're going to look into?
Not people who have real power and influence in government manipulating whether it's, you know, and I think it's not election interference, but this was designed to hurt Trump.
It made midterms harder.
Those of us who, you know, I've become a junkie at this.
At the time, I probably wasn't, right?
We built buildings.
That's what we did.
Like, I was into it.
I was always reasonably political, but not like I am now.
So, you know, you're sitting there, the average person trying to put food on their table, and they're listening to five minutes of news a day.
It's like, well, okay, there must be something to it.
I thought that.
And I was a target.
I was probably the number two target of them after my father.
tim pool
Well, so let me ask you, what was the I suppose it's a two-part question.
What was the first time you realized they were coming after you, like something was happening, and how did you feel?
Like, is this back 2017 or something?
donald trump-jr
You know, it's interesting.
I don't actually remember.
I mean, you start seeing it, and you're like, wait a second.
That's pretty obvious.
And again, initially, even with this stuff, I was like, well, yeah, who the hell knows, right?
They get you that way a lot, right?
You know, some, you know, one of the alt-right characters, you know, they make it seem like that's half the country.
It's nonsense, right?
There's seven of them out there that, you know, but they're like, they got a selfie with Don Jr.
Like, I took 1,700 selfies that day.
Like, I don't know who that person is, but it's like, we're best friends and the media will run with that.
So, you know, it's like, well, I don't know, maybe someone was doing something bad and who knows, maybe they have a picture with me because I took A click line.
Because you're a public figure.
Where I took 150 pictures in a five-minute period.
It doesn't mean I actually know the person.
It doesn't mean I could even tell you when that happened because I was so swamped with it.
So you're like, well, maybe peripherally there was something going on.
I know I didn't do anything.
But then you start seeing it further.
And you start really, I was like, wait a minute.
Red-handed.
I'm actually the red-handed on cover of Time magazine and shifts on TV every day lying about it.
I'm like, wait a second.
And again, then for better or worse, I guess, you know, I have a little bit of the Trump gene and that kicked in and I was like, I'm not running from this.
I'm just going to engage.
And my lawyers, man, my lawyers were not in love with me for a while when all that stuff happened.
Like the first time when that stuff happened, like I got on TV that night and they're like, you can't get on TV.
Like anything you say, I was like, dude, I'm not going to be called a traitor and take it.
I don't care if this gets me into trouble telling the truth and being open.
And I did it.
I put out The DMs, I guess the DMs from WikiLeaks and Assange, I was like, here it is!
What am I supposed to do?
I opened a DM that someone sent me?
I don't know.
Am I supposed to?
And by the way, I also didn't come... I wouldn't have even thought about these things necessarily at the time, right?
It's just a different mindset.
Now it's like, okay, what's the setup?
What's the angle?
I think about these things now.
At the time, I certainly didn't.
But I realize how much more nefarious it is.
tim pool
But I agree with you.
I mean, it's the most frustrating thing in the world when you have lawyers being like, you can't defend yourself.
donald trump-jr
Yeah, and they did.
And I just ignored them.
And for two years, they were like, you're gonna get your... And finally, they came up to me, like, there you go.
You were right.
I go, what do you mean?
They were like, you know what?
If you would have curled up in the corner over there and, you know, sucked your thumb crying for mommy, like, it would have meant nothing.
It would have been worse.
It would have actually been worse, right?
It's the capitulation.
You see that with, like, cancel culture, right?
The second, like, okay, I'm sorry.
Oh, the sorry.
seamus coughlin
Yep, blood to water.
donald trump-jr
There's no honor in it, right?
There's no...
If you're trying to do the right thing, that's actually your admission of guilt to them.
Because it doesn't have to be real to begin with, right?
The accusation can be total BS, but if they say it enough, they put it on the cover of Time Magazine, there must be some truth to it.
You then try to be, okay, let's just settle it down, I'm gonna apologize.
No, no, no, that's the first mistake, because now they got you, because you've admitted that you actually were wrong, and there's no coming back from it.
They're not dealing, you know, honorably, they're not, it's not an arm's length, like, let's do the right thing.
seamus coughlin
Exactly, and this is something that conservatives and Republicans, both as individual citizens and political leaders, have really failed at for such a very long time.
Left-wingers will come at you and say, you're a racist when you're trying to have a discussion on something like health care, welfare policy, border security, basic math, somewhere where it's completely irrelevant.
And so often, Republicans would respond to that not by saying, All right, I'm going to completely disregard that non-sequitur and continue the conversation about something of substance that we were actually discussing.
They would go, no, no, no, I'm not racist.
All my best friends are black.
I've never done anything that would ever offend anyone.
Let me play by your rules.
And then your dad comes around and do American politics.
And when these people start asking him these ridiculous questions and framing things in ridiculous ways, like, shut up, you stupid.
And it's beautiful.
tim pool
The Rosie O'Donnell thing.
Was exactly what you're talking about.
donald trump-jr
Only Rosie O'Donnell.
seamus coughlin
But I think that's really important.
tim pool
Everyone's screaming and cheering.
donald trump-jr
That was amazing.
I was there, and that was like, I'm just like, that was actually when I was like, oh, he's gonna win this thing.
It was interesting.
tim pool
When he called Rosie O'Donnell a fat pig, that was it, I knew.
donald trump-jr
Well, it wasn't even when he did it, it was the reaction of the crowd.
You know, it's interesting, like, you know, the brash billionaire from New York City that lives in gilded Trump Tower, it's like, He still had that connection with regular people, and it was from, you know, being on construction sites a lot.
Like, he didn't lock himself in an office all the time and, like, listen to the executives.
He'd walk a construction site and talk, you know, with a guy that's putting up sheetrock.
It's like, well, do you ever think about this?
This is how to get a little bit more ceiling height or whatever.
And, like, so he always had those kind of connections with those guys, and he just got it.
And that's when I realized, Just how much he got it.
And it was the reaction from those people.
When he did his opening speech, June 16, 2015, I only remember because it was my daughter's birthday, no one said anything about the Mexican rapist comments, because of course that's going on right now.
We see that at levels like we've actually never seen before at the border of, you know,
cocktails, coyotes, games, all of that stuff.
But everyone thinks that flared up that day.
It wasn't.
It was like two weeks later when he actually started gaining and all of a sudden, like,
oh my god, he could win.
That's when it became racist because everyone knew it was real.
So everyone thinks that it was like that was the reaction to the speech.
No, no, no.
It was the reaction to the success of everything that he was doing about two weeks later when the outrage cycle started and all of a sudden it became racist as opposed to just And if they could tar him with their number one slur, he's a racist, then perhaps that would undercut his success.
seamus coughlin
And part of what was so hilarious about that is during Trump's campaign, they overused the word racism so much they had to move on to a new phrase.
Right in 2016, after he got elected, they started calling everything white supremacist.
Because the word racist didn't mean anything anymore.
donald trump-jr
Did you guys see the stats last week?
It was like Washington Post and New York Times, like 700% and 1,000% respectively since like 20... Yes!
The use of the word, it's just...
Because it's just clickbait.
And listen, I think social media is part of that, right?
Like, and I'm not gonna pretend I'm not guilty of some of these things, but like, you know, everything's to get that click.
And you gotta make it a little bit more inflammatory.
Like, the problem with it is, like, now, do I believe that racism still exists?
Sure.
I just don't think it's the cause of and solution for all of life's problems.
Like, it's not, you know, I travel the country.
I haven't experienced any of it.
I haven't seen it.
I see tens of thousands of people a month, like, all over the place.
And yet there is actual racism still.
But when everyone's branded a racist, when you're talking about economics or math and you're called a racist because that's like the easy button of the political left, it does a huge disservice to those who are actually afflicted by that.
And that's not everyone.
tim pool
I think exactly what we're talking about right now, in more ways than just the racism issue, like every grievance they've screamed for seven years at the top of their lungs, it's just falling on deaf ears at this point and people are tired of it.
donald trump-jr
Correct.
Again, which does a disservice to the small fraction of people who are actually genuinely afflicted, you know what I mean?
Because, yeah, now when I get called, I don't even respond.
People are like, they said you're a racist.
They tried doing it to my brother last week.
He's an anti-Semite.
It's like, that's gonna make Thanksgiving really awkward with my sister, who's Orthodox Jewish.
I'm like, what are you talking about?
It doesn't matter.
They can just say it.
Well, you were near someone who once said this.
I'm like, did I say it?
tim pool
It's just, you disregard these people at this point, I suppose.
When someone comes up to me and says something nonsensical, I'll be like, you're not a serious person.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
donald trump-jr
Exactly.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
I mean, if they had any genuine concern for the groups of people for whom they claim to stand and who they claim to defend, then they would be really careful about the bombastic claims that they made in the media to everyone about groups of people that they didn't like or politicians they didn't like, because all they've done is discredit themselves over the past several years.
So even if they were fighting for these supposedly marginalized groups, well, Who would believe them when they offered up a solution
anyway?
donald trump-jr
You would, yeah, I mean you made the point about serious people, you're right, but like who, at this point,
who is a serious person when it comes to this stuff?
Because, like, they're all doing it, right?
It's not like there's a couple guys that are beyond reproach, like, you know, the reality is, and maybe again, I think it's why they were so gleeful about Tucker, because he did take on both sides.
He called out Republican establishment, you know, you saw the, I mean, the thing that was so frustrating for me as someone who's super anti this insane war in Ukraine, And just funding it in perpetuity to let people die.
I love my father's answer on CNN Town Hall, but it was like, the Republicans spoke to Politico or The Hill or some other leftist thing on condition of anonymity.
Now that Tucker Carlson's no longer on Fox, we can gleefully continue to perpetuate the war in Ukraine without fear of reprisal.
I'm like, wait, you're a Republican senator?
You were elected to do this, you know, despite what Mitch McConnell says when he's like, Republicans, it's their number one issue, like, Mitch, I've spent a lot more time with real Republicans, like, on the ground, and, like, it's not a top ten issue for almost any of them.
But they're gleeful that they can continue to support an unpopular war with the people that elected them.
Because no one's going to actually be there calling them out because of the uni party or the, you know, it's insane.
tim pool
I think one of the things they're very scared of when your dad was on with debating Caitlin Collins, he said he would end the war in Ukraine in a day.
And we had been talking about that about a week or two before and I said the same thing.
I think he gets in there and he shuts the whole thing down.
The issue is They don't want the war to stop.
donald trump-jr
Of course not.
tim pool
The war is profit.
donald trump-jr
You know how much money they're making?
Again, it's $130 million.
The Pentagon misplaced $220 billion.
If you miss $6 on your taxes, they want to go after you over a $600 Venmo transaction.
on your taxes, right? They want to go after you if you over a $600 Venmo transaction, $601 the IRS
is going to audit you with their 87,000 new agents, you know. But the Pentagon can misplace
$220 billion and no one's even like, huh? I like I I wonder where it went.
It's just like, oh yeah, you know how much money that is?
hannah claire brimelow
But if they misplace it, they had a good reason.
You just have to trust them.
donald trump-jr
Because while I'm saying the reality is whatever the 130 is that we've publicly funded, we also didn't think, I did, Because I just don't believe anything they say, but the average person also didn't believe that we had boots on the ground in Ukraine either, because it wasn't congressionally approved, and it certainly wouldn't be popular with the American people, who, you know, until Ukraine sort of became the new religion of the left, replacing, you know, Lord Fauci and COVID as the religion and demigod of the left for the last few years, like, the average American is not for
These wars, they're trying to drum that back up, and it's because our generals, that's their retirement plan.
We get on the board of Lockheed Martin.
The way to keep that job is to continue to sell missiles.
You don't continue to sell missiles if you're not actually using them, because you, you know, and now we're depleting our stockpiles to do that, and that's everyone's get-rich-quick scheme when they retire.
tim pool
Let's talk about some contemporary politics, because I have this story from Newsweek, and it is one of the greatest headlines I've ever seen the fake news publish.
John Fetterman's question at Senate hearing leaves witness speechless.
unidentified
Not in the way that you think, but not in the way that Newsweek would have you believe.
tim pool
And this is exactly it.
They want you to believe that his question was so good, so strong, that the witness was
like, oh, oh, oh, how do I, I have nothing to say.
When in reality, what happened was John Fetterman I couldn't believe it.
So I went up on the internet and it's like, it did happen.
donald trump-jr
Can you play it?
tim pool
Because, like, how much you want to bet they didn't put it in the article?
seamus coughlin
Oh my gosh.
donald trump-jr
Almost without question.
seamus coughlin
At the top.
tim pool
Here, let's go to the top.
No, I know, but like, is it actually going to be in it?
john fetterman
They went to go to Hawaii after there was a crash of your bank, and I couldn't believe
it.
I couldn't believe it.
So I went up on the internet, and it's like, it did happen.
It did happen.
It did happen.
And that's in Fortune.
The second biggest bank in U.S.
history collapsed and chose to go to Hawaii.
donald trump-jr
This isn't the good part yet, though.
john fetterman
Yeah, I've never been to Hawaii.
tim pool
I don't think they're going to show it.
donald trump-jr
I think you're right.
john fetterman
I think they're going to.
It crashed a bank.
You know, so given that this is, I'm the last person, I don't have much left to ask, but I will, you know, let me ask you this one particular question.
donald trump-jr
I made it, I think they're going.
john fetterman
To put to everyone here on that, and it is, it's an inside, it's an inside joke, no matter how incompetent or how greedy, the government will always bail you out when your bank crashes.
I mean, everyone has to know that, right?
You know, everyone has to realize that no matter how bad I behave, no matter how big my race is, my bonuses and everything, you know, we will come in and bail it because we can't crash the economy much the way SV Bibb argued that it was going to crash.
tim pool
What did he just say?
donald trump-jr
I have no idea.
tim pool
And that's not even the crazy part!
donald trump-jr
That's not the crazy part, because I did one.
There's a minute and ten seconds.
I just did a commentary for Facebook and social on it, and I'll do it on the podcast tomorrow, I guess.
But it's a minute and ten seconds of utter insanity.
I've spent a lot of time on this one because I'm one of the few guys, I've been called, you know, not a racist on John Fetterman, but I was called an ableist because I went after him.
seamus coughlin
Which is them admitting he's disabled, by the way.
donald trump-jr
Yeah, exactly.
For those of you who don't know, that means you discriminate against those with disabilities.
And I just don't think it's ever going to be popular with the American people to not expect basic cognitive function from a United States senator.
This is someone who could vote to send your children to war.
It's someone who's voting on trillions of dollars, and will.
And he'll rubber stamp the Democrat thing.
Do you have the actual quote?
tim pool
Yeah, you want to play it?
donald trump-jr
Yeah, play it.
It's just too good.
john fetterman
Is it a staggering responsibility that the head of a bank could literally crash our economy?
It's astonishing.
That's like if you have, I mean, like, and, and they also realize is that, that, that now they have, it's in the guaranteed, a guaranteed way to be saved by no, again, by no matter how.
So it's, it's, you know, isn't it appropriate that those kinds of, this kind of control should be more stricter?
Prevent this kind of thing from going?
Or should we just go on and start bailing and sailing whoever bank, regardless of how, however, their conduct is?
seamus coughlin
I think when you're trying to talk to a girl, you like, you know, you get nervous.
donald trump-jr
Well, I love how his look, the guy's like, oh, he can't respond.
I'm like, because you're an imbecile.
john fetterman
The Republicans want to give a work requirement for SAS, you know, for a hungry family has to have these, this kind of penalties.
Are there some kinds of word working required?
Shouldn't you have a working requirement after resale your bank with billions of your bank?
Because they seem to be more preoccupied with SNAP and requirements for works for hungry people, but not about protecting the taxpapers, you know, that will bail no matter whatever it does about a bank to crash it.
tim pool
What?!
donald trump-jr
By the way, don't forget, the media, when he got elected, the media was happy to say, hey, this is a guy that could be for 2024.
I mean, now we have an imbecile in office right now, so why should we hold a senator to a higher standard than the president?
tim pool
I want everybody to remember what you just heard from this man, and I want to show what Newsweek wrote.
Yes.
Here's what Newsweek writes, quote, Republicans want a work requirement for SNAP for hungry families.
Shouldn't you have a working requirement after we bail out your bank?
Federman asked at the end of the hearing.
He didn't say those words.
seamus coughlin
Those were not the words that came out of his mouth at all.
donald trump-jr
Not even a little bit, those words.
The Washington Post did the same thing, where they... the guy, I guess, did a correction.
Well, yesterday I tweeted a quote provided to me by the senator's office without checking it against the video, because he gave this glowing quote that actually made sense.
I don't necessarily agree with what was in it, but it's what they wrote.
It flowed, it's what they wrote, and they're just covering it.
And again, I know they'll call me an ableist once again, but I do not think it's unreasonable
for the American public, the voting public, to expect basic cognitive function.
This is a United States senator, guys.
This is not someone, and I don't think you'd let Joe Biden do it either, but you wouldn't
let this guy drive you in an Uber car.
hannah claire brimelow
When Joe Biden gets lost on stage and is confused, there is something sad about it because he is so pathetic in that way.
donald trump-jr
Honestly, that's the hard part.
That's why I think it was easy to get people to hate Hillary.
It's hard though, it's hard to hate Joe Biden.
You look at him, you can't, if you're human, you can't help but feel bad for him.
Because you realize he has no idea where he is.
hannah claire brimelow
It's the same thing with John Federer.
He's so clearly trying to recall, I mean a lot of officials memorize their statement that they're going to have.
That's not unusual.
But he is struggling so desperately to recall what he is supposed to be saying, not just like, oh, I'm getting stage fright, I'm forgetting my lines, like, he is not there.
And in some ways that is unnerving that there's a group of people who can see this person who's clearly sick and suffering and saying, go out there and try and, you know, wear the suit and hit the talking point.
donald trump-jr
He's being used as a pawn because...
He's not hated, like Hillary was, right?
Now, I'd argue that he's probably far more effective in actually delivering some of the insanity of the radical left policies, because he'll sign anything you put in front of him.
Because he does not know where he is, he's also incapable of reasoning about... No, no, no, but hear me out!
seamus coughlin
No, I think you're right!
donald trump-jr
Like, whoever is in charge, whether it's Obama, whether it's Susan Rice, whether it's one of these, you know, radicals...
Obama felt the same way, but he just wasn't going to destroy his legacy signing this stuff in.
They're happy to throw Joe under the bus because, like, what's his legacy going to be?
But they're actually furthering that insanity.
Do we really believe that, like, an 85-year-old Irish Catholic guy, like, you know, the trans thing, it's the social justice cause of this generation?
Like, I don't know.
I don't think anyone believes that.
But he'll say it.
Like, I certainly don't think an Irish Catholic believes that stuff.
seamus coughlin
Well, you're certainly not allowed to, yeah.
You're not a real Catholic if you believe you should transition kids.
That's not even a question, right?
That's not even a worldly question.
Catholics do not believe in transgenderism at all.
tim pool
But he's also pro-abortion.
seamus coughlin
And he's also pro-abortion.
Joe Biden is not a practicing Catholic and he hasn't been for decades because he doesn't give a cent to church teaching.
He doesn't believe in what the Catholic Church teaches.
tim pool
Seamus is a Shiite Wahhabi Catholic.
donald trump-jr
I can see that!
unidentified
But I think that's like a lot of Americans.
hannah claire brimelow
I think it's like a lot of Americans, though.
A lot of Americans identify as Christian and don't, you know, live out those practices at all.
seamus coughlin
A lot of men identify as women, you know?
hannah claire brimelow
I know!
They don't live out those practices either.
donald trump-jr
Listen, the reality, it seems like we can identify as a lot more than we could have a few years ago.
So I'm going to give someone who's not quite 100% practicing Catholic, I'm going to give them a little bit more slack than the people who, you know, are going to force me to say some sort of pronouns that don't make any sense.
seamus coughlin
I'm just saying, listen, Biden is trans-Catholic.
He does identify as Catholic.
tim pool
Fetterman identifies as a senator.
And the responses, and I know it sounds like a joke.
This is not a joke.
I'm being serious.
He runs for the Senate.
He is not capable of being a senator.
I feel bad for him because, you know, he really, he always wanted this.
He has a stroke.
It's a horrible thing, and I feel bad.
And now he still feels, you know what's happening?
What I'm trying to get at when I say he identifies as a senator is, much in the way a leftist will go to someone and say, yes, you are exactly what you think you are, they're going to this man and being like, yeah, you're a senator, you're a senator.
donald trump-jr
Stamp it here.
tim pool
When he's clearly incapable, he's not an effective senator.
donald trump-jr
But the thing, and people don't realize that, and they've been lying to people about this, they knew this about the stroke.
They could have had Conor Lamb, who was a congressman, and again, I don't agree with a lot of his positions, but at least he was Present.
At least there's a gerbil in the hamster wheel moving around where it's not with him.
But they said, this is a guy that we can get him to win.
It doesn't matter if he's capable of thought because all he has to do is rubber stamp.
But look, Chuck Schumer says, and it also talks about The issues with elections.
Now, I won't talk about elections now, maybe we'll do it in the later hour.
And again, I won't say anything controversial, but do we really think that the people of Pennsylvania were shown this man and like, oh yeah, that's my guy?
Or do we think there was a ballot harvesting operation and they're, you know...
tim pool
There's that joke from, I think, what's the guy's name?
Was it John Dye?
I hope I'm not getting his name wrong.
He said, if Lizzo is so beautiful, how come women get so mad when I say you look like Lizzo?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yes.
donald trump-jr
She's healthy.
tim pool
This is what I mean.
The same people who are going to Lizzo and saying, oh, you're so beautiful, are the people going to John Fetterman and being like, you're a great senator.
They're not being honest with us because they're putting the feelings of the individual who wishes they were healthy, beautiful, or a senator in front of the actual responsibilities of a person in that position.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, and this is one of the very sad paradigm shifts that is leading to the slow death of the West.
What people used to do is they would encourage you when you were young to try to
figure out what you could give to the world. What is your vocation? What are you meant for?
What can you provide to others?
Then it was shifted towards, what can you do for yourself?
How can you prove that you're impressive?
How can you be in a position that's comfortable for you?
And so what we end up with is a situation where you have someone who is either in steep cognitive
decline as Joe Biden is, but wanted to be the president or his handlers wanted him
to be the president.
And so it's mean to tell him he can't or someone like John Fetterman, who is quite clearly
cognitively impaired, but who wants to be a senator. And so no one around him was willing
to say, hey, you actually can't do that job.
donald trump-jr
I don't even know that he wants it.
seamus coughlin
I don't know.
donald trump-jr
He was bullied into it.
They're like, this is our best chance.
And now you're going to sit there for six years and get through it.
You don't really have to show up.
You can wear shorts on the floor of the Senate and your hoodies.
I'm not one that overdresses.
It's not my like, but like, I don't know.
There's still a respect for that institution.
And like, they don't care about that anymore.
Like, that's all gone.
seamus coughlin
Well, let me just add one caveat to what I'm saying then.
You could very much be right that they bullied him into this.
They thought he'd be someone who could represent their interests well, and I think that's likely the case even with somebody like Joe Biden.
But the American people should be able to see, hey, the purpose of a job isn't to make someone feel special for having that job.
The purpose of a job is to provide something to society.
This man Cannot provide to us as the people what a senator is supposed to provide because he's clearly disabled, right?
He's just not meant for that position.
There's nothing wrong with being disabled.
It doesn't make you a bad person.
There's nothing wrong in the moral sense, right?
You're not less valuable as a person.
But it does mean there are certain jobs that aren't open to you because they require a high degree of competence.
Yeah, I think what you're... But that's mean.
That's mean to say.
donald trump-jr
Would you let him perform brain surgery on you?
hannah claire brimelow
There are things that he can't do because he is cognitively impaired, but I think we're seeing this happen with Joe Biden, with Fetterman, and we're seeing it with Dianne Feinstein in Congress.
She is old enough where the Where Democrats are openly talking about, maybe she should step down.
We know she's not going to seek another term.
Maybe she is not healthy enough to continue in her job.
But instead, they're like, well, she took three months off and we're going to welcome her back.
We're going to pretend things are fine.
I mean, it is.
tim pool
She forgot she was gone.
donald trump-jr
Three years ago, it was known, like, it's one of the biggest sort of untold secrets of Washington.
I know, like, they're like, oh, yeah, she's got dementia.
Like, it's like, People in DC, people in power understand that this is the case.
They talk about it openly.
hannah claire brimelow
But they want to hold on to the seat.
Everyone around them.
I mean, this was like with Ruth Bader Ginsburg, right?
There was a huge, like, I think it was kind of a joke, but like that she already had retired and all of her staff were writing all of her comments anyways, right?
Like this was something that people joked about.
And I think it's the same thing with as many people.
And in fact, if you can have a person like John Fetterman in the Senate seat and get the policy you want through, why wouldn't you pick another candidate who is easily manipulated, right?
If you're a handler and you can't personally hold public office for whatever reason, but you can find someone who you can basically puppet and get your policies through, why wouldn't you do that?
Someone else is taking the blows that you don't have to absorb, but you're getting your way.
You're holding on to the power.
seamus coughlin
I mean, it's funny how similar these politicians are to pop stars today.
I mean, there's just people behind the scenes writing all of their material for them, making all of the money off of them, and they're just the face of the operation, and they really do run it like a franchise.
Once that person is beyond the point of really being able to perform, they hop them up on performance-enhancing drugs so that they can keep doing so.
It's horribly cruel.
tim pool
You guys saw Dianne Feinstein forgot she was gone, right?
Like, the big story was that she said, what do you mean?
I've been here the whole time, and they're like, Also, half her face appears to be paralyzed, and we're not going to talk about that.
hannah claire brimelow
She was out for pneumonia, and apparently we're not going to talk about it.
donald trump-jr
I wrote about it in my book when I wrote Liberal Privilege, like Joe Biden's had two brain aneurysms.
Like, if you ask any guy, you know, that's a brain surgeon, you ask a neurologist about, like, the statistical probability of there not being serious issues with one aneurysm, It's almost like non-existent.
With two, and then when you see it, and you see the eyes, and it's just dead.
hannah claire brimelow
Or hear him talk.
donald trump-jr
Or you see the fear.
Even worse.
When you know he forgets where he is, or can't get off the stage.
Because it's not just a little confusion, there's actually a moment of panic, and you see it.
And so do our enemies.
And so do the people that are making decisions abroad.
And, you know, it's literally influencing our space in the world right now, because, you know, that's the nature of predation, right?
Predators see weakness, And they pounce.
That's what they do.
That's a story as old as any living being.
hannah claire brimelow
And now Joe Biden is competing with himself to become our nation's oldest president.
And of course, your father is older as well, but I don't really know that we want to elect our second oldest president who already gets lost on stage.
seamus coughlin
But Trump's clearly younger cognitively, right?
donald trump-jr
I know guys that are 85 years old that can run circles around my 40-year-old face.
hannah claire brimelow
It's not Joe Biden!
donald trump-jr
Age is a relative thing, and I get it, I'm not just saying that because of my father, but like, if you put my- you sit in a room with my father, it's like, okay, like, you know, he can hold court for three hours, you can go on CNN, like, could you- would you put Joe Biden on Newsmax?
seamus coughlin
Oh my gosh.
hannah claire brimelow
No, you can't send Joe Biden out!
seamus coughlin
No one would even watch!
hannah claire brimelow
Did you guys hear the audio of one of the Secret Service members being like, okay, we're just gonna walk here, and you're gonna stand on that X, like- Well, he still misses it!
He still misses it!
donald trump-jr
I think there's a video, I could be wrong, so I don't want to get fact-checked, but I think there was one where he's like somewhere, and a blind guy literally was like, no, no, you have to come over here.
A blind man was guiding him, and he still got it wrong.
hannah claire brimelow
It's the blind leading the binding.
seamus coughlin
Literally, yeah.
But have you guys considered this?
That he just has a speech impediment and you're being bullies?
Because that's what I've been told.
All of these gaps are because of a speech impediment.
donald trump-jr
There are reliable and credible sources that have told me that I am an ableist.
seamus coughlin
So that could be... We're just leaning into it.
donald trump-jr
A speech impediment is apparently also a disability.
No, yes.
It is not that.
You don't forget where you are because of a speech impediment.
You don't forget the name of the person you're trying to introduce.
It's not the stutter.
You don't forget the state that you're in.
You maybe have a hard time getting it out for a second, but you don't say the wrong place.
hannah claire brimelow
And it wouldn't have changed over time.
Joe Biden has been in public office for years.
We have heard him testify from the floor a hundred times.
You can see recordings of it.
He is not OK.
He's even different from when he was the VP.
Right.
Like you can see a very serious decline in his speech.
That's not just a speech impediment.
seamus coughlin
A speech impediment doesn't make you say poor kids are just as bright and talented as white kids, right?
That's not a speech impediment.
unidentified
That's character.
seamus coughlin
That's just how Joe Biden thinks.
unidentified
I got hairy legs.
donald trump-jr
I'm gonna sniff this child.
I'm like, you know, the sniffing children thing.
seamus coughlin
It's like, that should be disqualifying for the gecko.
unidentified
He sniffs kids.
donald trump-jr
No, no, no, but like, hey, if you did it once in a photo op, but like the fact that everyone knows it's a real problem, It's talked about on a daily basis, and yet he continues to do it because he's incapable of stopping.
There's no control there.
That's a basic part.
I'm sure I have bad habits.
If they get me in trouble... Not like that.
hannah claire brimelow
You actively work to correct them.
donald trump-jr
I do what I can to try to correct it.
Trying not to curse because we're on YouTube and not Rumble or whatever it is.
I don't do a great job of that, but I can usually get by reasonably well.
He's in ca- like, stop sniffing children!
Like, it's not that hard!
seamus coughlin
Like, I'm trying to figure out which speech impediment makes you ramble about corn pop and sniff kids, and I haven't discovered- I've WebMD'd myself to death, but I haven't found any of it.
hannah claire brimelow
You're a journalist!
donald trump-jr
You actually have cancer and AIDS because you spend so much time on WebMD!
seamus coughlin
I know, I'm horrified I have all these diseases!
donald trump-jr
Diagnose Joe Biden!
tim pool
You know, all this reminds me of that scene from Dr. Strangelove where the dude's writing the bomb down.
donald trump-jr
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, we know everything's falling apart, and I'm laughing, But I'm also laughing because y'all are laughing.
Like, our president can't think properly, his brain no longer works, we have two senators who are incapable and have suffered medical ail- They all have some kind of brain issue inhibiting them from functioning, and we're all sitting here laughing as though we are riding that bomb all the way down.
hannah claire brimelow
There's nothing you can do.
donald trump-jr
There's nothing you can do.
Well, listen.
tim pool
Oh, you can vote for your dad.
donald trump-jr
Yes, well, that's true.
No, but, I mean, remember the stuff they did with Trump?
I mean, every, like, tele-psychologist, every tele-neurologist, oh my God, Trump, he held a banister to walk down a slippery ramp.
Like, no, he's just smart enough to hold a banister so he doesn't fall and give them, like, you know, slip and fall.
tim pool
Like, Joe Biden fell up the stairs, like, three times.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, like, he's fine.
donald trump-jr
He didn't walk up a flight of stairs.
It's Air Force One.
He knows the cameras are on and he still can't get it right.
Like, he fell upstairs.
seamus coughlin
They were web MDing your dad.
They're like, oh my gosh.
donald trump-jr
He's in the later stages of dementia and Alzheimer's.
Miraculously, he can give a three hour speech like impromptu off the cuff.
Not affected there, but he has these issues apparently is what I'm told.
hannah claire brimelow
I like the armchair psychology.
He has narcissistic personality disorder.
He is just this terrible human being.
You can see it everywhere.
Or like recently, a headline that was like, he didn't wish his wife a happy Mother's Day on social media.
Obviously, there are problems in that marriage.
Like, what a strange way to measure someone that they're not performing the way you want them to as opposed to Joe Biden, who is actively falling down and getting lost.
This is not the same thing.
donald trump-jr
It's not.
You know, again, whether it's the corruption, whether it's that I mean, again, I don't say like, imagine Don Jr was Hunter Biden.
I have a feeling the things that are not issues would be serious issues.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I think so.
donald trump-jr
If if Trump made the daily mistakes of Joe Biden, if he made the errors, if he tripped, if he fell, if he did, if he did things that were normal, and they could see what Oh, it looked like he flinched.
That must have been a mini stroke.
You know, the amount of just insanity trying to back into a medical condition.
I watched it for the four years and two years during the primaries.
seamus coughlin
It's also interesting, you've touched on this a few times here already, but the way the media treats you and your siblings versus the way that they treat Hunter Biden, it's unbelievable, right?
And one thing I remember constantly hearing during Trump's presidency, anytime anyone brought up any of your success was, oh, well, they had a rich father, of course they became successful, because when you have a rich dad, your success story.
Explain Hunter!
Explain Hunter Biden to me!
donald trump-jr
Listen, He's an over-performing crackhead.
He's actually one of the highest performing... He's an over-achieving crackhead!
seamus coughlin
He's probably the richest crackhead in the world, to be fair.
donald trump-jr
The Chinese gave Hunter Biden a billion dollars to invest because they apparently invest a lot with crackheads, or they were looking for some diversity and inclusion, and they realized that the people, they didn't want just competent people to invest in.
You know, the Chinese are many things, but they're not stupid.
They don't give someone with no investment history or prowess unless they're buying something.
So of course they were, but the fact that that's not brought up, right?
seamus coughlin
The Chinese didn't do diligence.
donald trump-jr
They're looking to diversify.
They need some degenerate Let's be serious.
to really round out their investment portfolio.
They're underrepresented in that.
seamus coughlin
Don Jr. they're buying crack.
donald trump-jr
Are we pushing the line?
tim pool
I'm gonna say let's be serious.
The reason why they're investing in him is one, I think you're correct.
They're buying something, influence of his father, but they're buying something really, really great.
This is the perfect investment opportunity for an adversary because not only are you putting money
into something that's of value to you, but you have tremendous leverage
in that Hunter is a crackhead and that if they ever cross you,
you can really, you can release the information.
seamus coughlin
Well no, because all the information's out and our media doesn't care!
donald trump-jr
Yeah, but is there one of our enemies that, again, I want to know, and I'd like to see, just out of curiosity.
Imagine the stuff that Hunter was like, you know, maybe I'm not going to video this one.
unidentified
There has to be something.
donald trump-jr
This may be a little too far for video.
hannah claire brimelow
What is Hunter Biden ashamed of?
donald trump-jr
Do we have an enemy that doesn't have a Hunter Biden laptop, and do they have more?
Again, you saw the revelations last week, right?
15 entities.
All conducting business in places none of the Bidens had ever conducted business.
All set up literally the day after he became vice president.
All only in the areas where Joe Biden would have authority to do this.
You know, the brother has a piece of the deal.
The girlfriend has a piece of the deal.
the grandchildren, like do any of them have international business experience,
including Hunter and the brother, but like the entire family's on the payroll of these companies.
And then you see this week, Joe Biden used his second veto to veto bipartisan legislation that
was going against China. Like the fact that our media won't even ask the question, it's like,
hey, do you think that maybe like you would veto bipartisan legislation?
Bipartisan legislation doesn't just happen that much in Washington these days.
But Joe Biden's gonna use it as a veto, much like he did... Like, China, it's the greatest investment they've ever made.
A billion dollars to China is nothing.
tim pool
We were talking about this a little bit earlier, the Hunter Biden laptop, and then the question came up, like, what do you think Don Jr.' 's got on his laptop?
And I was like, I bet it's really boring.
I bet it's, like, business documents and, like, memes.
donald trump-jr
You'd know by now, because it would have leaked.
Because I'm, other than my father, the most subpoenaed person in the history of the United States government, and they've seen all my phones, and again, if there was that stuff on there, it wouldn't be suppressed, it wouldn't be hidden, it would have leaked.
I'm probably the second most vetted person in the history of the United States at this point.
tim pool
Did they take your devices?
donald trump-jr
Oh, yeah.
I mean, they get copies of it.
I've had to do that.
I mean, as recently as last week, I had to give another copy of my thing because that's the New York AG and their perpetual witch hunts.
New York AG is crazy.
It's insane.
And they just fundraise off of it, right?
No jury in New York's ever let Trump go because just the social stigma of like, You know, they'll dox them like they tried doing with Kyle Rittenhouse.
They'll figure out how to make it.
You can't get a fair jury.
These people are in fear for their lives.
I almost understand it, as much as I think it's sick.
Not everyone has, like, you know, my general, let's call it underdeveloped sense of self-preservation, who will go out there and, like, screw you and screw you and, like, fight other people.
They don't have that.
It's not that easy.
We need to all develop that.
We need to become unafraid.
Until we do, we got a big problem, because they can take out, they can pick off the guys that'll stand out.
tim pool
So here's what it feels like to me.
Surface level, simplified.
I feel like your dad sees something in this country.
He sees the issues.
They're fairly obvious.
He's talked about them for decades.
And then he's like, I'm gonna run for president.
I'm gonna fix these things.
And the moneyed interests that would be harmed by this reacted massively in fear.
So you've got corporations that make money off cheap immigrant labor.
You've got corporations that make money off outsourcing jobs to foreign countries.
You've got foreign adversaries that were extracting wealth and value from our country and bringing our jobs overseas.
And then all of a sudden, Donald Trump comes in and says the famous Michael Moore speech where he says to the auto manufacturers, I will put a tariff on your cars at 30% and no one will ever buy it again.
And then what do we see during the Trump administration?
The return of auto manufacturing to Michigan, bringing, I believe, three billion dollars.
donald trump-jr
Yeah.
tim pool
That's, that's historic.
We see the Abraham Accords, and I'll tell you, recently I had a guy tell me, I was at a poker table, he said, there's no way you like Trump, because some lady was like, this guy likes Trump, and she was saying it like, kind of in a funny way, like she was nice, she was, she liked your dad too, and he was like, impossible, and then I mentioned North Korea, crossing into North Korea in the DMZ with no security detail.
donald trump-jr
All the other guys Yeah.
They got the binoculars from like 30 miles out looking through it. Like I said, this is history
tim pool
This is these are historic peace deals We saw the economy booming and they reject it and they
refuse and what do we get instead?
It really does feel almost like a yin-yang night and day kind of thing where with the Trump administration
Far from perfect. We have an end to wars in the Middle East an end of Isis
We have troops being withdrawn from Syria. We have peace in certain parts of Middle East. We have an attempted peace
with North Korea We have a booming American economy and it all inverts the
donald trump-jr
moment Joe Biden gets an office Yeah, I think that's what's scariest to me, was just, again, you think of this thing, you know, the American economy, it's this big ship, like, in two years, they eliminated it all!
I mean, when you think about what's going on right now with interest rates, when you think about what's going on with inflation, as some of these mortgages start resetting and these five and seven years arms start resetting, people are going to get crushed, man.
I don't think anyone understands.
We're at 2008 and perhaps worse.
Uh, you know, levels again, and it's only a matter of time now.
I think, you know, the powers that be are doing whatever they can to delay it, to try to blame it on, you know, whoever beats Trump or whatever later on.
But, like, the country's gonna go through a lot of pain because of the stupid decisions to try to do this.
And, by the way, You know, the Republican donor class and that billionaire class, oftentimes just as guilty.
It's like, well, you know, yeah, we're really anti-China, unless we can get our widget for one cent cheaper, in which case, you know, so like, I'm not pretending like, you know, it's only the Democrats doing these things, but it's also why the Republican donor class is like, well, we don't want to support Trump this time.
It's like, why?
Because he made you bring in like American laborers and put Americans to work because we created energy independence.
Like, now we're getting that.
We still need it because like, let's not kid ourselves, the batteries, you know, they don't, And everyone was like, it could never get done.
It's never going to happen.
of labor in Africa isn't quite producing the dream of everyone in America having a car.
And of course, their ESG scores aren't affected by that because they subcontracted out. So
you hire a hitman instead of doing the dirty work yourself, and it doesn't count.
You mentioned Abraham Accords. That was the holy grail of geopolitical politics for decades.
And everyone was like, it could never get done. It's never going to happen. Trump goes, why?
Well, we've been dealing with this. Same with North Korea.
We've been dealing with the issue for 40 years and it's like well have you like actually sat
down in the room with the people?
No, we would never do that.
Well, like, why do we believe the experts?
The experts don't know shit.
tim pool
Like, now that we... I mean, those of us who are following the hoaxes, Russiagate and stuff, You know, early on my attitude was like, oh, wow, this stuff's interesting.
I mean, could this be true?
I remember meeting with a journalist in New York and saying, like, is this stuff real?
Like, you know, tell me, like, the stuff that you can't report, what are you working on?
And she's like, it's real.
It's true.
And I was like, wow, really?
And I'm like, it's crazy.
donald trump-jr
It's real because they wanted it to be real.
tim pool
And then sure enough, I'm like, hey, wait a minute.
And as time goes on, then you get the Ukraine gate scandal, the fake impeachments.
Imagine what the news would have been.
Imagine what the news should have been.
With a roaring economy.
With manufacturing coming back.
With the new US trade deal, the USMCA.
With the crushing of ISIS.
The media was inverting everything.
They called the leader of ISIS an austere scholar.
A man who murdered and raped women.
donald trump-jr
A guy who burned journalists.
tim pool
Yes.
donald trump-jr
Like, you'd think the media would- Austere scholar.
Yeah, austere religious scholar.
I remember reading that, and, you know, I think we were talking with some of your team downstairs before we started, and I was like, there's days I wait, like, I feel like I gotta be the star of The Truman Show.
Like, they're just screwing with me.
Like, it can't be real.
hannah claire brimelow
I can't wait for you to find the camera.
donald trump-jr
It's gonna be amazing.
I'm gonna find the camera one day because it's like, I'm being punked.
Like, I have to be.
Because, like, there is no other time in history where we think we're having the conversations.
There's no other time, you know, in history we think the hills that the Democrat Party is willing to die on these days.
tim pool
Are those Ingersoll Lockwood books real?
Like, is that a real thing?
You know what I'm talking about?
That story about those books from the 1800s that talk about Barron Trump?
seamus coughlin
Oh, yeah.
I think they are.
tim pool
And who's running for president.
Do you know about this?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
So I'm like, this has got to be fake.
It's got to be someone pregnant.
Supposedly, there are books that were written by a guy named Ingersoll Lockwood in the 1800s that talk about Barron Trump, who lives on Fifth Avenue in New York City, and he runs for president.
And then a bunch of anarchists and socialists from the Lower East Side of Manhattan, like, rush to, like, protest or something like that.
donald trump-jr
I don't know.
You know, I watched, like, the Simpsons episode that called some of these things pretty well.
Those were pretty amazing.
serge du preez
Yeah, apparently it's a surrealistic novel from 1896.
Americans are protesting a corrupt election process while the president's hometown of New York City is fearing the collapse of the republic after the transition of presidential power.
tim pool
I can't believe this is real, okay?
I just, I'm sorry, I can't.
I feel like, I'm gonna talk about this and then someone's gonna be like, can you believe Tim Poole fell for that hoax that 4chan did or something like that?
donald trump-jr
And that's the problem.
I mean, there's plenty of things, like you can try to You can't even discern what's real and what's not some of these things anymore because there's so much out there.
It spreads so rapidly.
And the problem is some of the stuff that we see in the real world today is so asinine that the hoaxes actually seem almost normal by comparison.
You're like, oh yeah, that totally fits with everything I'm seeing elsewhere.
hannah claire brimelow
Newsweek is talking about this novel and he says that Barron Trump's adventures begin in Russia and the guides, they think, he gets directions from the master of all masters, a man named Don.
unidentified
The Baron Trump novels are two children's novels written in 1889 and 1893 by Ingersoll Lockwood.
donald trump-jr
They remained obscure until 2017 when they received media attention for perceived similarities between their protagonist and U.S.
tim pool
Russia like the Baron the Baron Trump novels are two children's novels written in 1889 in 1893
By Ingersoll Lockwood they remained obscure until 2017 when they received me attention for perceived similarities
between their protagonist and u.s President Donald Trump dude who is the guy that found those
unidentified
books?
donald trump-jr
And that's on Wikipedia.
Not that I trust anything on Wikipedia, because I think that's one of the more biased things out there, but, well.
hannah claire brimelow
You're just jealous that it's not Don Jr.
It's Barry.
donald trump-jr
I'm a little upset.
unidentified
That's what this is!
donald trump-jr
All this fighting, and I'm just going to be... Yeah, no, that's fine.
Please let it be someone else.
tim pool
You want to know something that's funny?
I tweeted this, and the left... These people have no sense of humor.
They don't understand.
So I posted a picture of Joe Biden super ripped with aviators and they didn't say anything.
There was no, no conservative was like, Tim, you're obsessed.
You're an occult.
Joe Biden's not good.
They knew it was a silly AI thing.
And then after the town hall, I did Donald Trump going super Saiyan and he's all ripped.
And then all the leftists are like, it's a cult.
It's a cult.
And I'm like, dude, it's a joke.
But I tweeted this.
Do you know what, you know what Donald Trump means?
donald trump-jr
I don't.
tim pool
Harold of the World Ruler.
donald trump-jr
Wow.
unidentified
Yeah.
donald trump-jr
I don't even want to tell him that.
unidentified
I didn't make that up!
Nominist omen, you know?
donald trump-jr
He may like that one too much, I don't think.
tim pool
Well, it's your name, too!
donald trump-jr
Yeah, I guess that's true.
tim pool
It's a solid point.
Donald means World Ruler, I guess, in, like, Scottish Gaelic or something like that.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
And Trump means the trumpeting sound of, like, the arrival of the World Ruler.
Yeah.
donald trump-jr
Just you saying that may drive them crazy.
tim pool
It does!
And I tweeted it, and they were like, it's a cult.
And I'm like, I am not literally saying I support this man as God Emperor.
I'm making a joke.
It's a meme.
But anyway, you talk about like the Truman Show and stuff, and I immediately thought about the Barron Trump novels.
donald trump-jr
It's amazing.
I haven't even seen that one.
tim pool
Like, we gotta be living in some kind of simulation.
donald trump-jr
I can't keep track of all the conspiracies, you know what I mean?
Most of them end up coming true, but there's only so much time in the day, and there is a lot of Yeah, it's definitely weird because these books are real.
hannah claire brimelow
It's not like someone, as far as we know, produced them later.
They didn't write them after the fact.
seamus coughlin
Every now and again, though, you have these moments that are such a shock and they're so surreal, but they're still so wonderful.
Depressingly resigned to the idea that Hillary was going to win in 2016.
I really thought she had it.
And then on election night, I started to see that she wasn't, and I started to see everyone on CNN and MSNBS freaking out and crying, and I thought, oh my goodness, he might win!
hannah claire brimelow
That was amazing!
seamus coughlin
And then I remember, When he walked out on stage to, you can't always get what you want, and he's just smiling and I'm thinking, this dude, Hillary Clinton spent her entire life pulling every string she needed to and behaving as cynically as possible so that she could get this position and then this guy just wakes up one day and is like, I think I could be president, you know, and I think I'm gonna do it.
And he runs and he beats her.
It was like the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.
hannah claire brimelow
What was that like for you guys in the lead up to that decision?
donald trump-jr
That was pretty surreal.
I mean, I did a lot, obviously, on the campaign trail.
But what's really interesting about it is, in 2016, you felt the enthusiasm, you saw that love, you saw everything, but I was like, hey man, we're gonna overperform, but...
How do you beat that machine, right?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
donald trump-jr
If you asked me in 2020 on the same exact time, I was like, oh, we got this.
Like, the enthusiasm was greater, the crowds were greater, the energy was greater, people more... Like, if you asked me... There was nothing that seemed off at that time?
No.
And that's why I'm so skeptical of so much of the other stuff.
And, you know, from a perspective thing, like, I did 104 rallies in October of 2020.
unidentified
Wow.
hannah claire brimelow
Doesn't seem mathematically possible.
donald trump-jr
It's basically four a day.
Oh my gosh.
For a month, you know.
And when I say rally, you know, 300 or 2,000 people, maybe 5,000 people at certain ones.
You know, but that's not like a press hit.
That was actually like live.
So like, I was everywhere.
You know, I could use three, four states a day sometimes.
Like, you know, so you saw that.
And if you asked me between the two which one, it was like not even close.
unidentified
Really?
donald trump-jr
And, you know, again, you know, just from a... So then what was election night 2020 like?
Again, it felt great.
And then it was like, you know, five states, all of a sudden, they're counting.
And it was like, and that's when I was like, oh, that's the, you know, something's going on.
And, you know, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
So how do you feel going into this round?
Do you have more skepticism?
Do you feel like your strategy has changed?
donald trump-jr
Well, I think it's a little early for that.
But I think people, again, I think what the perhaps the most important thing that Trump did was just open people's eyes to that, you know, Trump derangement syndrome.
You know, just got people to say the quiet parts out loud.
I think there was a lot of subversive stuff going on, probably for decades.
unidentified
Yeah.
donald trump-jr
Excuse me.
I think there was a lot of the, you know, the nonsense that we see, whether it's Russia, Russia, Russia, whether it's, you know, the lies about, you know, the Wuhan lab leaks and all.
I think that was going on far longer than we ever imagined, but it took Trump To get them to fully lose their minds and just to put all the cards on the table for everyone else to see it.
Again, I'm a junkie, I now follow that stuff.
I'm not a junkie like Hunter, I'm just like a political junkie, let's be clear.
unidentified
What are the Chinese buying from you?
donald trump-jr
CNN within 30 seconds will have Don Jr.
as a junkie.
So we're getting it, but I think it's forcing regular people.
I don't make any, pretend I don't get where I came from.
I'm the son of a billionaire.
But if I'm pissed off filling up my car, What's that doing to regular guys?
You know, if I take my kids and I bring them to the grocery store because they want me to cook something for dinner or whatever it is, I'm like, damn!
Like, if gas was twice as expensive, it probably wouldn't change my habits.
I'd be pissed, but it's not going to change, like, there's people, it really affects them.
And the fact that I understand this, and it seems like the vast majority of Democrats in Congress do not, Like, I'm not supposed to understand that, and yet it's just, it's sort of obvious.
Now, you know, my outdoor hobbies and stuff like that, I hang out with a lot of good, good redneck Americans and stuff like that, so I see it, but like, I think it took Trump to get this.
I think it also perhaps took a Joe Biden to reinforce how fragile it is.
hannah claire brimelow
Interesting.
donald trump-jr
How quickly it can disappear.
Like I said, I sort of started alluding to it earlier when I was like, you know, it feels like a big ship, but it really isn't.
I mean, two years, it was like, within days, this policy, we're going to get rid of that.
We're not going to finish the wall.
We can send $130 billion to Ukraine, but we can't finish the wall for three.
How dare you want to stop drug trafficking at the border and human trafficking and sex trafficking.
seamus coughlin
Hunter needs his crack!
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think that'll be the effect of Joe Biden's presidency?
That people who think of themselves as moderate, maybe lean left will say, but we can't have another four years?
donald trump-jr
How can it not?
I mean, like, and by the way, if it's not, then perhaps we're already lost, right?
Because like, if people, you know, I don't, I can't find someone who could credibly, you know, maybe they'll do it on, you know, CNN or whatever, but like, you know, name a metric That we're performing better as a country than we were two years ago.
And by the way, even in the midst of a pandemic, basically, you know.
But then, you know, Corinne Jean-Pierre, she can get on stage and say, Joe Biden has created more... Now, she's not, look, she can't make eye contact with anyone in the room because, like, it's just the body language tell.
She knows she's lying.
He created more jobs than any president in America.
Like, no one feels that.
No one believes that.
Allowing people to go back to work after you shut them out of their jobs, you know, saying, you know, your Starbucks is totally a, you know, required thing, but church isn't, you know, like it's, it's a necessary thing, but it, like, I don't think anyone believes that.
tim pool
Take a look at this chart.
This is from the New York Post.
donald trump-jr
Yeah.
tim pool
When Biden takes office, inflation skyrockets.
And this isn't the only chart.
It's just the one I just quickly Google searched.
There's one that is more, um, It's more granular, it gets down into the days.
And I remember seeing this and it talks about wages and inflation.
The moment Joe Biden is elected, he signs a bunch of executive orders and we see inflation go straight up and wages go straight down.
And I've had people say, oh, well, the reason that spike happens has nothing to do with Biden, it's because of the debt spending and COVID.
And I'm like, no, no, no, you can't say that and then see the change happen literally right after the signing of like 30 executive orders.
Something he did right when he got in office caused this flip to happen.
donald trump-jr
Yep.
tim pool
Or unless you're arguing some grand conspiracy where Trump set some executive orders to expire that no one knew about.
donald trump-jr
But again, I don't think anyone can believe that credibly because, again, I don't think that there's anyone, even on the conservative side, that was actually really working with Trump to help him.
I think they did everything they could to subvert him, including the Fed, including, you know, I don't think he'd pretend that those guys were working.
I think, you know, in the midst of a pandemic, yeah, you had to do some spending to keep businesses open, that's fine, but they want to keep that going in perpetuity.
You know, it just doesn't work.
The math doesn't... you're gonna have to pay the piper sometime.
tim pool
I think I actually may have found Real Clear Politics.
This is from Real Clear Politics.
Take a look at this.
So, right when Joe Biden gets inaugurated, you can see wages drop way down and inflation spikes.
It's incredible.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
The Biden administration, right when he comes in, crashes.
donald trump-jr
Yeah.
You know, and that's the sad thing.
I mean, you know, bringing those jobs back to America, and I, you know, I went to boarding school, but I went to boarding school in like sort of old, you know, central Pennsylvania, sort of old, sort of industrial town, one of those towns that, you know, time forgot.
And again, growing up, it was the home of Firestone Tires and like Mrs. Smith's Pies and stuff like that.
You know, dilapidated buildings and stuff like that, and it's just like, man, these were once, like, great, like, thriving areas that are just run down, and it's like, bringing those jobs back, bringing back American manufacturing, bringing back car manufacturing to Detroit, like, it was happening.
Like, it's not rocket science.
Like, you can do it if you even care a little bit, if you can break away from the billionaires, if you can, you know, you can actually do this still in America.
tim pool
And then to, just to watch that reversal, To what degree is it an intentional, is it a controlled demolition, right?
donald trump-jr
How could it not be, man?
You know what I mean?
Again, all Joe Biden had to do was nothing.
They can't do that.
tim pool
Let the ship sail.
donald trump-jr
You know, let the ship sail, continue it out.
You know, they can't, you know, they even say, you know, they want it.
Well, and then a year later, they're like, well, we're going to bring back maybe Trump's policy on the border because, well, you know, because it was always working.
You had to do something different, right?
Withdrawal of Afghanistan, a true disgrace.
You couldn't just leave it alone the way they had it.
You had to change it so you could have the headline of, you did it faster.
So instead of doing it during the winter when they're hiding in caves, you do it during the fighting season when they can come and take over Kabul in 12 days.
But they couldn't see it coming.
I'm like, I'm not a military expert, but let's just assume I know jack shit about Afghanistan.
Like, oh, I saw that coming.
tim pool
It's on purpose.
donald trump-jr
You know, they saw it coming, but they needed the soundbite, knowing that there was no consequence because the media, big tech would make sure the story was like, Joe Biden did this, he's a great hero, he had to mess it up.
You couldn't leave it alone.
They needed to make it their own, and they knew that if they made it their own, even if it's a disaster, they got full coverage by the media of how wonderful and great he is.
Just like those same people are telling you that he created more jobs than any president in history.
unidentified
Yep.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think the American people believe it?
Because I feel like a lot of Americans remember what happened in Afghanistan, and they will not be able to forget it.
donald trump-jr
Again, I think we're chipping away slowly.
I think it's why they're going to do what they can to prevent the inevitable from happening, because when it gets really bad, when you see that 2008 crash, they changed the definition of recession a year ago.
seamus coughlin
What is a recession?
donald trump-jr
If it was under Trump, if you met this level of not-GDP growth for this amount of time at any other point in time in history, they go, well, that's just the way we've kind of done it.
It's not really etched in stone, but you mean...
You're saying that now because we've hit that level that puts us in a quote-unquote recession.
But if it was Trump, you wouldn't be changing the definition to pretend that we're not in a recession, even though every metric we've used historically forever has been met to say we are there.
tim pool
They would make the rules more strict if it was your dad.
It's technically a recession.
seamus coughlin
It really is much worse than... Growth was lower than 5% this year, so really it's a recession.
tim pool
I do love when Obama was like, what did he say, there's no magic wand, you can't get 4% growth?
donald trump-jr
Abracadabra, bitch!
But again, it didn't take that much.
And again, this is with even a lot of the people on our own side working against us.
And I mean, that's sort of the miracle of the Trump presidency.
He actually knocks some pretty serious wins.
Despite the Republicans working.
I mean, Paul Ryan and the things that they, well, I don't want to do that.
Like, if we build the wall, like, we may upset a couple people, like, who hate us, like, and would put us in the gulags.
Like, well, I can't have that.
I'm like, really?
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think there are people like that?
Like, if your dad wins next year, are there similar people who you would advise him to be careful of who might work against him?
donald trump-jr
Oh, I think 100%.
I think he knows who probably most of those people are.
Do you want to name names?
You know, listen, I'd say the vast majority of the United States Senate, you know, there's a couple of great guys in there, but a tiny handful.
I think, you know, honestly, it'd be much easier to name people who aren't on the list than who are.
hannah claire brimelow
Interesting.
donald trump-jr
Right?
I mean, if we're going to be real, I think there's a couple of great people in Congress, you know, meaning the House.
But again, that's a small part of that machine, right?
The unelected bureaucrats, I mean, it's I mean, I'm not sure I can name one that isn't.
You know, but no, they did that.
They entrenched, you know, Obama did that very well.
They entrench a bunch of people that are career, and you try to change the job role that, you know, that's not appointed by the president, so you can't touch them.
Their life, they could be the most incompetent people in the world, but they got tenure so they can stay there.
hannah claire brimelow
It makes it really difficult to clean house.
donald trump-jr
It's the least merit, you know, there's no meritocracy in Washington DC.
If you can get in those positions, you know, you're there for life.
seamus coughlin
I mean, if you merited anything, you wouldn't be in DC.
donald trump-jr
Of course.
Yeah, exactly.
You know, if you're doing five in the market, I think that's the other part of the attack on Trump, which is like, you know.
We don't really want someone from out of the system ever doing this again.
Like, you know, that system works really well for us and we'll keep, you know, we want to make part of it's the statement of, hey, if you're another successful guy who's done this in the real world and you want to get into politics and like, you know, imagine what they try to do to, you know, Elon's not born in America, so we can't do it.
But if it was someone like that, that wanted to run for president, like, yeah, I've done what I've, you know, I put people on Mars and, you know, yada, yada, yada, maybe I'll do this.
Imagine the revolt?
They don't want that.
That's a threat to the system that they've created that has been very beneficial to them, but no one else.
seamus coughlin
And that's why it's so important they don't get away with what they did to Trump with the FBI attempting to unseat him.
Because that will send the example to the American people that they will beat you if you try to stand up against them.
tim pool
I don't think firing these people is enough.
donald trump-jr
No, I agree with you.
I just don't... Listen.
I have my opinions.
I have what I'd like to have happen, which is far more grave than what would ever happen.
The problem is, you actually still have to play within the realm of reality.
It doesn't mean I'm compromising my position.
My position may be X, but I just know it ain't happening.
Nothing's going to happen.
Now, I want to keep pushing.
I want to make sure we get people elected who can actually try to do that.
I'm going to do whatever I can to make that happen.
You know, sometimes we get caught up on, this is what I want and if we don't do that, I got 99% of what I want and it's like business.
You don't get it.
You don't, you never get 100% of what you want.
Republicans do that poorly.
We take our toys home and we cry having like 99% of what we wanted rather than taking the win and like, we'll work on the 1% starting in five minutes.
You know, the Democrats get 51% and they're starting on the next one the next day.
They take the win, move on.
They take the win, they move on.
They take the win, move on.
And it's a death by a thousand cuts.
They get where they want.
We don't do that well.
We don't play that game well.
And, you know, and I understand it's a lot of it's because we're principled, but I think a big part of, you know, my principle is actually getting where I want to be.
Realistically.
And I don't want to blow important wins because I didn't get 100% of what I wanted in that.
And, you know, people go, oh, you're a sellout!
I'm like, no, this is how we actually get some win instead of zero wins whatsoever, which is what we're really good at getting.
tim pool
I don't know if you would know, but I'm curious your thoughts on a potential vice presidential pick.
donald trump-jr
I think it's too early right now.
So there hasn't been much conversation about it.
Who's on the short list?
tim pool
Honestly, yours personally.
unidentified
Yeah.
donald trump-jr
Listen, you know, I'd want someone in there I just tasked to clean house and certain things, right?
hannah claire brimelow
Who would do that, though?
donald trump-jr
There's a couple guys out there that could do that.
Maybe it were women.
Who specifically?
Well, listen, I'm not going to go there because I know what the media will then end.
Donald Trump Jr.
is undercutting his father and he's announcing the game.
Yeah, Hannah Clare.
hannah claire brimelow
If we list a bunch of people, would you not?
unidentified
You're getting warmer.
seamus coughlin
Maybe we put Tim Pool in charge of DOJ.
donald trump-jr
colder you're getting warmer you know I don't know you know maybe we put Tim
Poole in charge of DOJ just cleaning up lock him up Tim no I think I think you
You get people like Trump also who don't care anymore.
The people, some of the people who've been wronged.
Yeah.
Okay, the people who they tried to break, who they tried to bankrupt, and probably did in many cases, like, you know, I'm not saying all of them, you know, because there's some that, again, you gotta, but like, there's some of those people that now understand that their life meant nothing to these people, and when that happens to you, you know, maybe Like, it happened to me, like, okay, you know what?
Like, I don't want to curse, but, you know, F you, and we're gonna, like, we don't care.
And I think, again, that's the most important, that, you know, as much of a just total reset, not to, again, that word will be used against me as, oh my god, conspiracy theory, you're not allowed to say it, but like, Just if we could start from scratch and eliminate as much of that bureaucracy as possible, have people willing to be like, you know, this guy's an expert.
He was an expert.
He led the North Korea policy for 40 years.
I was like, what'd you do?
Well, Trump's doing it all wrong, but why?
Maybe because you've led it for 40 years, but you've accomplished nothing in 40 years, like why should I do this?
tim pool
What you gotta do is you gotta sit them down and say, what would you say you do here?
unidentified
You can have them, well, Bob.
donald trump-jr
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
You can't take me.
donald trump-jr
It'll feel like, yeah, like office space all over again.
tim pool
I want to say, you know, I despise politics.
I would never want to be involved.
People jokingly say, like, maybe, you know, why don't you run?
Why don't more people run if you're so pissed off?
And I'm like, I just want to go anywhere near it.
I can't believe people want to.
I told Kerry Lake, I can't believe you want to keep running.
She's talking about the Senate.
But if Donald Trump said, look, you complain so much about these people, we'll put you in charge of all the indictments.
It's yours.
Now I'd be like, yes.
donald trump-jr
Yes.
seamus coughlin
Everyone is going to jail!
donald trump-jr
I think we need a team of like rabble-rousers that are like informed conspiracy theorists who have been far more right, who have been far more correct than all of our elite and educated media.
Just let them, you know, give them each a task and just be like, have at it.
seamus coughlin
I mean, frankly, informed and conspiracy theorists are a redundancy these days.
donald trump-jr
You know, the conspiracy theorists, they're batting like a thousand as far as I'm concerned.
seamus coughlin
Absolutely.
tim pool
Even Elon Musk, he said recently in an interview, he was like, well, a lot of them turned out to be right.
And the guy's like, like, which ones?
And he goes, the Hunter Biden laptop.
And then the interviewer goes, OK, well, that was true.
donald trump-jr
Stop bringing it up!
I always talk about Wuhan lab leak because it was so obvious.
tim pool
Like, Jon Stewart goes on Colbert and says it.
donald trump-jr
Of course it happened there.
seamus coughlin
It's the most obvious thing in the world.
donald trump-jr
The only one more obvious than that was Jesse Smollett.
But like, of course it didn't!
You're telling me it came from three feet outside of the bio lab that studies the exact virus that leaked?
unidentified
It was crazy.
donald trump-jr
By magic?
And if you were in academia, if you were a doctor and you questioned the There was no other answer.
There was no other option.
Of course it was that.
seamus coughlin
And the former CDC director said that pressure was put on him to not acknowledge that publicly.
tim pool
There was a scientific paper.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, he's a conspiracy theorist.
tim pool
I think it was South...
China University in Beijing or whatever it's called, where they said... Called If We Did It.
unidentified
No, they post, they publish that.
tim pool
This is early on, they said bats had bitten people and urinated on people, and that's what they think caused the leak.
And then they quickly said, we tracked this, we got rid of it, because probably the CCP came in and said, do you enjoy living?
And they're like, we do.
It's like, then get rid of it.
donald trump-jr
Yeah, of course.
Well, the guy, that top scientist that went missing that asked a question, even asked a question.
And, you know, and then, obviously, you saw this stuff in congressional testimony during PEAK.
It was like the Fauci emails versus the Fauci TV appearances, you know, on the cover of like Vogue magazine or whatever the hell he was doing.
Like, They were literally a contradiction.
So was he lying to the American public, or was he lying to his colleagues in medicine?
Because they were literally polar opposites.
One of them has to be a lie.
hannah claire brimelow
No, everything he says is true.
donald trump-jr
So who was he lying to?
unidentified
You can't question Dr. Fauci.
seamus coughlin
He's the science.
I'm not sure if you're aware of this.
He is the science.
donald trump-jr
He is the science.
And again, because that became the religion of the left, and he was the high priestess of that religion, you could not question it.
But I'm like, but how do you not question A polar opposite.
Two things that are opposite cannot be true at the same time.
seamus coughlin
He declared himself God.
He said, I am truth.
He literally did.
I am the science.
unidentified
What?
donald trump-jr
I am the science.
You know that guy spent his life getting his ass kicked, and I think that could be good for a lot of people, but you know he was just bitter at the world, and he got a moment to be like, That star, and he took it, and your health, your grandmother's life, your children's lives, their well-being, their education, your business, our economy, meant nothing to him relative to him being on another magazine cover, getting a little bit of attention from a celebrity.
None of it meant shit.
tim pool
I know it is early you mention that, but I'll try asking anyway, do you intend to be working on your father's administration?
donald trump-jr
I don't know.
Not officially.
I'd love to maybe be in there as an advisor.
hannah claire brimelow
Were you an advisor last time?
donald trump-jr
Yes, but I just sort of do these things.
I just go out there and I campaign.
I know what I'm good at and I stick to my lane.
But I think in this one, I now know, and I've spent so much time out there fundraising for Republicans and fighting these battles.
I just feel like I'm very close to the ground on these things, so I'd be like, we're not hiring that person, and here's why.
Here's the person you should hire, or here's the people you should talk to about that job.
tim pool
The reason I ask is because I think you're probably the second most popular Trump, as you also mentioned, the second most subpoenaed and investigated.
But I also think that you have a very good ear to the cultural issues that are entrenched in our politics, and I think that would benefit greatly from listening to you.
donald trump-jr
Yeah, no, listen, that's what I do.
I mean, it's sort of become...
Really, the fact of my job is like, it means something to me.
I promise you, it was a lot easier to be a real estate developer from New York and be invited to the cool person party.
When I was young, I'd go to any club in New York I wanted and I got tables.
It's like, I don't even want to try now.
And by the way, there's plenty of people who are like, sort of closet thumbs up, but they won't say it out loud.
So it's not the end of the world, but it's just so different.
But for me, I actually believe this stuff.
I've always been, you know, In that fight, I've always been a conservative.
I, you know, even, again, I shouldn't be, but because of, you know, the upbringing I talked about with my grandfather from communist Czechoslovakia, I got a taste of that.
I understood it.
You know, then spending time in that, you know, sort of, you know, eighth grade through twelfth grade in, you know, Rust Belt, Pennsylvania.
Like, my friends were from these places.
I saw what those decisions, those policies.
My father's been really consistent.
I mean, he was talking about, you know, at the time it was Japan, you know, taking advantage of us in trade like China is now.
But this is from like the 80s on Oprah.
He's been very consistent about these issues, and I saw it sort of peripherally in my life, and now it's sort of become that.
I'm out there fighting for these things.
I got five young kids.
I want to let them grow up in a country that I recognize, and I see just how quickly it's all changed.
I see the conversations we're having today, the hills to die on for the Democrat Party.
Five years ago, we'd be like, come on.
Come on, like you can't, like no way.
And yet it's happening.
It's so fast, the erosion of decency and everything we believe in.
And like, we got to fight against that.
And if I have a good base and I have a following and I can use that, like that's more important than anything else I could be doing.
tim pool
I want to show you some articles from back in the day.
This one is from Vox.
It says, Donald Trump is the perfect moderate, and they put moderate in quotes.
They're not actually calling Donald Trump a moderate.
They're insulting him.
What they want to say is why we mistake extremists for moderates.
But hold on there a minute, Ezra Klein, who wrote this.
This is from Matt Iglesias.
Two years later, Trump won by running as a moderate Republican.
That is actually serious.
He says his undoing will be that he isn't governing like one.
By the way, actually made that claim.
And I think most reasonable people who actually have paid attention to politics over the past few decades, view your dad, he's been called a New York, a New York Democrat, a traditional liberal, who's now running as a conservative, because the left has gone so insane, that now being a moderate is considered far right by the press.
donald trump-jr
Well, I think I, by the way, I think that's accurate.
You know, there's no question.
I mean, you know, Kennedy today would be all right.
seamus coughlin
Are you kidding?
unidentified
Yeah.
donald trump-jr
He'd be a Nazi and he'd be all the things that we apparently are.
tim pool
You have that cartoon where the World War II soldiers get transported to the future.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, so we did a cartoon a few years ago where a bunch of lefty SJWs build a time machine because they want to bring back the guys who defeated Nazis to fight the Nazis and they bring them back and they're just horrified by what these World War II veterans are saying.
donald trump-jr
Yeah, but I look at Antifa and I'm like, please explain to me, based on your actions, how are you anti the FAW part?
It feels like if you have even a modicum understanding of history that They are actually acting like the fascists that they pretend to protect us from.
I don't understand.
tim pool
I can explain this, and to be fair to them, they're actually correct.
The fascists were traditionalists.
They were authoritarian and more traditionalist.
And the communists were progressive and authoritarian.
So the authoritarian thing is they have that in common, but they want to destroy the family.
They want to destroy traditional values, erase culture, and then build their own weird Marxist garbage.
So that I get.
donald trump-jr
That's fair, but if I look at the brown shirt fascists and just, you know, burning books and this kind of stuff, I'm like, I don't know.
tim pool
So you're right, maybe the end result is it, but the actions, uh, you know, sort of... Their protest, Antifa, they genuinely believe they're anti-fascist because they think fascism is family.
It should be actually anti-family.
seamus coughlin
That's literally true.
tim pool
That's a better antithesis.
seamus coughlin
No, that's literally true.
That's how they understand it.
The thing about fascism is it's very nebulous and it can fit into many different containers.
Like, the question is, what is the, you know, ethos of the people of the country who are living under fascism?
And then the state is supposed to fully embody that.
at like Benito Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile right in the origin of doctrine
of fascism nothing of value human or spiritual can exist outside the state
and the state must be above all including the church which are all
things that the left believes right and so it is kind of a fascist system
because they're saying our ethos is a progressive ethos and so the fascist
state must embrace progressivism So they are.
Fascist.
tim pool
Oh, there you go.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Violent.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
Very much.
Very much.
Well, and this is also, like, fashy.
tim pool
We want freedom!
seamus coughlin
While we're beating someone over the head with a brick, I'm like, well, I mean... There's a huge part, like, the fashy, the whole metaphor comes from a bundle of sticks.
We're stronger together.
I mean, yeah, there's truth in the fact that people are stronger together, but when you become so collectivized that you lose all individuality, that's a very serious problem.
And you see that with lefties.
When you get them away from their group, they're not quite as far to the left when you have a one-on-one conversation.
I've said this before, there are only leftist groups, not leftist people.
tim pool
What do you think about Patriot Front?
Have you seen those videos?
donald trump-jr
I mean, yes, but like... Do we really want to pretend like it's not a Fed operation?
It's like the Gretchen Whitmer thing.
It's like, we're gonna find the one meth-head right-wing guy and get them to follow along.
So they're gonna find one guy, they're gonna frame him as though he was trying to overthrow the government.
Because, you know, it's so obvious.
Hey dude, those guys all look like a lot like, you know, my guys that when I had a Secret Service detail.
Like they're all sort of, you know, in shape, good-looking guys.
It's so ridiculous.
Well, and it's so obvious.
It's like the same thing.
Like, you know, the Whitmer one's a great example.
It's like, so after...
It's a threat to the government!
I was like, you mean after, like, two years of baiting, and you finally found the one drug addict, and it's like, we got him!
Like, you are literally entrapping, like, they should be guilty.
It's lunacy.
But again, you don't even hear that story.
You know, you hear, you know, conveniently right before an election, that there was a plot to assassinate, like, you mean set up by, like, 12 people, like, people, you know, and those guys get promoted, and those guys then are the people investigating J6.
I mean, And they stay in their bureaucracy.
And hopefully we can sell them a firearm on the side and they can carry it.
We got caught we didn't do a great job. So let's start a rally and invite what you know
Maybe we find one person dumb enough to like go for this and you know
Hopefully we can you know sell them a firearm on the side and they can carry it and even if they have no intention of
Using it that's gonna be the precipice for the investigation because they clearly were trying to murder
seamus coughlin
someone it yeah now call me crazy But I think the purpose of law enforcement should be to
prevent crime not invent fake criminal plots Correct to entrap some random person who never would have
gotten involved that activity if he wasn't radicalized by feds in the first place
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, you can't high-five yourself for saying, we stopped extremists if you created an extremist.
donald trump-jr
When the arsonists are calling the fire department, it sort of loses the, you know, I'm like, I don't know.
seamus coughlin
No, it's literally that, though.
It'd be like if the fire department went around trying to get people to start fires so they could put them out.
tim pool
Ryan Long has that sketch.
You know Ryan Long, the comedian?
Him and Danny Polischuk wear their Antifa window repair.
And they were like, at night, we go out, we smash the windows, then we show up, we leave the flyer behind, then we show up in the morning, we fix the windows for them.
unidentified
That's hilarious.
tim pool
That's basically what the FBI's been doing.
donald trump-jr
Yeah, and by the way, meanwhile, you know, when there's actual crime or actual domestic terrorism, like, you know, a guy driving through a Christmas parade in Wisconsin, well, we had him on our radar, but we were too busy trying to trap a meth head, like, into a fake kidnapping plot.
Like, they've been watching all these people, but they're either You know, they check a couple identity boxes so they're not allowed to actually pursue that because, you know, god forbid you find someone who's a criminal that, you know, may be trans or otherwise or just a minority or... We can't actually pursue that so we got to try to find, like, the amount of people that were on their radar that just magically slipped through the cracks to actually go commit a crime because they're too busy trying to create a crime that they can actually... How about just, like, try to prevent an actual crime?
Well, that's what I found to be the... Just do that!
It's not that hard.
Like, that's what you're supposed to do.
hannah claire brimelow
That was the craziest part of listening to the opening statements at January 6, which is, you know, the government saying, like, we knew we had FBI informants, and so we knew all about what was happening.
But then you get the question of, like, then why didn't you have additional reinforcements?
If something so bad was going to happen, and you knew about it, aren't you an accessory to the crime?
donald trump-jr
Yeah, and then they say, well, Trump, you know, he authorized the National Guard.
But he couldn't, by law, send them there.
You have to get either Nancy Pelosi or Muriel Bowser, the D.C.
Mayor.
unidentified
And they refused it!
donald trump-jr
So they said, well, Trump didn't do anything.
It's almost like, listen, it's almost like, you know, it's strange.
We don't hear about the bombs planted at the D.N.C.
or the R.N.C.
anymore.
No, those disappeared.
You'd think that that would be a really big story, unless it was all a setup.
Right?
And you got what you wanted out of the other part of the setup.
If the other thing didn't happen quite that way, the bombs would have been a really big deal.
tim pool
But again, I don't know how far we can go down this rabbit hole, you know, while on regular YouTube, but, uh... Well, we got a lot to talk about in the members section, so maybe what we'll do is, like, right when we wrap, we'll just start the members section, uh, members show right away, but we're gonna go to Super Chats right now and read comments from y'all and take some of your questions.
If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button?
And subscribe to this channel, but more importantly, go to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member.
At about 10 or so p.m., we will put up the Members Only Uncensored show, so we can talk about a lot more stuff and current news goings-on.
It'll be a lot of fun.
But for now, let's read what y'all got to say.
Lizzie Kay says, hey Tim, love the show.
Joe Biden was born closer to Lincoln's presidency than his own.
Lincoln's assassination was 4-14-1865, to Joe's birth, 11-20-42, is 77 years, 7 months, and 6 days.
Joe's birth, to his inauguration, is 78 years, 2 months, pretty wild.
That's kind of crazy if you think about it.
That means, like, Joe Biden could have a grandfather who was around for the Lincoln presidency.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, his name was John Wilkes Booth.
tim pool
Yeah, it's that deep.
unidentified
Could you imagine Joe Biden being like, my grandfather told me stories, man, about President Lincoln and his hairy legs.
Lincoln had hairy legs too.
tim pool
All right.
I'm Not Your Buddy Guy says, let's make saying you're fired great again.
donald trump-jr
I think that's right.
Yes.
Yes, that that is that would be my policy decision if I have any influence over it whatsoever.
tim pool
Matthew Reckham says, in regard to your conversation about bears in a previous stream, Annie Oakley killed a 500 pound bear with a .22 through the eye socket.
unidentified
Wow.
hannah claire brimelow
Without feminism.
unidentified
She just did it.
donald trump-jr
Yeah, she just did it.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
I didn't think that was possible without girl power.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
That's amazing.
unidentified
Yeah, it's wild.
tim pool
Steven says, Donald, after seeing how deep the swamp runs, do you have any political aspirations?
donald trump-jr
It's interesting.
People ask me that a lot.
Maybe.
Right now, honestly, I feel like I can almost do more not being a part of it.
Does that make sense?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, there's fewer restrictions.
donald trump-jr
You gotta play by rules.
You gotta do this.
So I can do that.
I can help people along the way, guys that I really like, try to help them get them there.
And actually not have to deal with the nonsense that is so prevalent in there.
So again, I think there's a component of it.
I love being in the fight.
I actually like a lot of the stuff that Republicans aren't traditionally good at, like actually getting in the mud and fighting.
I don't know that I want the day job right now, but that doesn't mean it's permanently out.
hannah claire brimelow
Would you want to do it in New York or Florida?
Because I feel like New York needs you more.
donald trump-jr
I'm never going back to New York.
Anthony Brownlee says Donald Trump was the best president we've ever had and I hope Jr.
will run in the future.
it. I, you know, I initially go down the tax code, like if they reverse the tax code, I'm not going,
tim pool
it's just so different. Yeah. You know, but we got, I got to read this. Oh, Anthony Brownlee
says Donald Trump was the best president we've ever had.
And I hope junior will run in the future.
Thanks for everything you and your father have done for our country. I appreciate that. Guys.
donald trump-jr
Honestly, there's that stuff that when you see that, and I see it a lot, you go out to dinner
and some, you know, I've had this man, it was hard. A couple weeks ago, I was out dinner,
took my son and he wanted to go get sushi or a little bit, like this Marine sat next to him.
Like I go to pay and this Marine had picked up our dinner just as a thank you for like, I'm like,
wait, you can't like, come on. I, it.
But it was like, you could see it was legitimately going to be like insulted if I wasn't going to do it.
And I was just like, So that's what makes all the BS, all the inquisitions, all the 50 hours of tech.
When you see that, if it actually makes a difference in someone's life and they see that and they're waking up to what really is out there, that makes it all worthwhile.
And perhaps that's what eventually gets you to actually do that job.
hannah claire brimelow
How did your son react to that moment?
Are they, like, kind of getting used to it, or is it... You know, it's interesting.
donald trump-jr
So, for me, it was different because, you know, my kids, like, we grew up in New York City, and, like, that got tough for a while before we moved to Florida, right?
Like, you know, parents would tell kids something.
They tried messing with my son a couple times.
I finally told one of my sons, like, listen, if someone's being, like, that to you and, like, Like, you do whatever you can to defend yourself, and you'll never- I don't care if they throw you out of school, like, you're not getting in trouble with me.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
donald trump-jr
And, you know, the kid messed with him, and the son, you know, took care of it, and, like, never had a problem again.
But, like, it was really prevalent.
Like, you could see, like, parents being vicious to, like, you know, and my kids are young, right?
Like, my oldest just turned 16, and this is seven years ago, right?
Like, uh, and the 16 thing's a whole other story, because that's scary as hell.
Uh, but, you know, so, but going down to Florida, like, I, you know, I went to pick up, uh, you know, my son at school, and, you know, put him in under a different name, and this, that, and the other, and I go one day and, you know, pick him up, and, like, I'm looking around, like, there's kids, like, wearing MAGA hats at his school, and I'm just like, oh my god, like, okay.
unidentified
Yeah.
donald trump-jr
And, and so, you know, it's really interesting, like, down there, like, I have a hard time buying my own dinner sometimes in Florida, where we're at.
It's a real conservative area.
And it's interesting.
It's not just the people.
I was sort of surprised.
We live in a really nice neighborhood.
And I was like, it's going to be OK.
It's a lot of New York transplants.
I'm like, OK, fine.
I was hoping for normalcy and like, you know, the house next to me, before they even knew we bought our house,
they had like a big cardboard cutout like you have of Donald Trump like in their window at that like this, you
know, and I was like, oh, this is gonna be the place for us. It's
been awesome. So, you know, down there, it's been so welcoming for them because they see, you know,
people come up to me, you know, whether every walk of life, you know, if we're at a
restaurant, the busboy, love what you guys do.
hannah claire brimelow
After being kind of treated like enemies.
donald trump-jr
Yeah, and so they're like, yeah, oh, dude, like, my kids were like, they thought I was, because again, you see it there, there must be something, dad must be doing something wrong, and he sees it now, and it's like, oh, he's actually, like, loved, like, it's, and it was such an important change, like, I think, honestly, staying in New York for them, would have been like a psyop, like negative.
I think it could have screwed up my life.
It would have hurt my relationship with them.
It probably did at some level.
Because again, you're a kid, you know, I mean, it's why they're so adamant about going after minors, whether this is with the trans stuff, or that, like, that is an impressionable mind.
Like, it could be my child who knows me well, but like, well, this is someone I might, it's an authority figure, there must be something to it.
So Florida for us, has been awesome.
And I would never You know, like I said, I kept my cabin upstate where I can go there and I'm getting high-fives from all the locals.
It's cool.
Like, it's different.
But, like, we'd never go back to the cities.
tim pool
Let me read this from Agamemnon's Jimbag.
Mr. Trump Jr., awesome to see you here.
I respect the hell out of you, but why the support for Bud Light and Anheuser-Busch?
Is it just their donation history?
Convince me to sell my puts.
donald trump-jr
Yeah, and honestly, I think it wasn't even that.
I think I probably, you know, when you talk on air or whatever, you're like, maybe I got a little over my skis on something.
But, like, the reality, I was like, it's sort of weird when I look at all the other, like, just terrible offenders.
It was just sort of shocking to me that it was like, this one became that bad.
And I'm someone who's, you know, I think you had Michael Seifert on the show, like, You know, I've invested in Public Square and these companies that are out there, like, literally doing the opposite.
So it was an interesting one to me.
I see Nike.
I see all these other companies.
And I was just like, I don't get, like, why don't we do this to all of those?
So I think my comments got sort of blown out of proportion.
But the reality is, like, I've put my money where my mouth is on these things, trying to help the businesses that are fighting on that one.
So it was an interesting one for me.
And again, I think there's also a component of it.
You know, things are blown up in a primary.
It's like, how do we?
Don't go, Don Jr.
He's a lib!
I'm like, no, I was just making some points.
hannah claire brimelow
But you didn't feel obligated to protect him?
donald trump-jr
No, dude, I'm not crying for anyone.
You see what's going on.
Watching the guys double down now, whether it's Miller Lite.
That was actually before.
That was before.
And now you saw the Ford commercial you guys were showing me down there with the Ford Raptor that turned into the tranny car.
And I'm like, oh God, what's going on?
And so, yeah, again, I'm not shedding any tears for anyone in any of these things.
But again, in a primary season, people are going, oh yeah, he's gone.
So, you know, there's a component of BS to a lot of these things.
And again, I think the biggest thing is, I think if you look at what I'm doing and the companies I'm out there trying to promote and support and literally invest in, it's the guys fighting for those those those culture battles.
tim pool
So let's let's Yeah, and I'll add to it.
I think when you said I think my response was like, I disagree.
No, I think we should keep doing it.
And then we moved on.
donald trump-jr
I didn't think anybody Yeah, and I didn't even think of it at the time.
I was like, I was saying, I was like, I'm just sort of surprised that's the one.
Like, what, like, what about, like, you know, when you see the Nike stuff and the Adidas, I'm like, why aren't we doing, like, it just felt like there's a lot more there.
It was, I guess it was just like, that's, it's strange that that was the one to me, I think.
tim pool
Let's, uh, let's grab this one.
Aaron Preston says, Tim, last week you talked about an OnlyFans model that was wheelchair-bound due to her implants.
Well, a few days ago, one of her implants exploded because they were too large.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
So we need a cultural shift in this country.
donald trump-jr
Is that like the trans-abled one where people are disabling themselves because they want to be disabled?
tim pool
No, no, no.
This is a woman who wants to get fans on OnlyFans.
donald trump-jr
Oh, wow.
tim pool
So she got implants all over her body.
They're so large she can't walk anymore.
So she had to get a mobility scooter to move around.
donald trump-jr
I mean, you gotta pay the rent.
tim pool
Did she have to create bills?
hannah claire brimelow
Like, was she investing in her business on OnlyFans by getting the implants?
Did she go into debt?
donald trump-jr
I don't know, but if your income is OnlyFans, I guess they get right off the implants.
Yeah, that's true.
You're playing with $0.50 here for the implants that made her unable to walk.
hannah claire brimelow
And that exploded.
Here we go.
tim pool
Just Leave Me Alone says, Don Jr., will you please run for our next governor of Florida?
We need a Trump businessman to keep our state free-ish.
hannah claire brimelow
Is that a yes?
donald trump-jr
Is that a yes?
Okay, relax!
As I said, maybe one day.
Right now is probably not that time.
But I'll continue.
Listen, I promise I'm going to continue to fight for this stuff because, again, it matters.
And I think, you know, we see how... it's almost frustrating, right?
You see just how ridiculous it's getting.
And again, I just wish, honestly, it's why I'm sort of disappointed in some of the other Republican candidates.
It's like, you know what you have to just go all in.
If everyone in the Republican side went all in, if the people who support them became unafraid, we'd actually win.
They're not going to cancel 175 million Americans.
unidentified
Nope.
donald trump-jr
They can't do it.
But if you put one guy out there at a time, one guy has the balls to actually go out there and do this.
Like, they'll take him out!
You know, they did that to my father, they did to, you know, the most powerful man in the world!
Like, they can do that.
If everyone's like, oh, I don't want that because there's a little bit of a social... I'm not going to be liked by... at the PTA meeting.
I'm like, you shouldn't go to the PTA meetings at this point anyway, because the FBI is going to label you a domestic terrorist.
But we should run for our school boards, so we can prevent the indoctrination of our children.
tim pool
This is a good one.
Crooked Smile says, President Trump should host a TV show firing all the corrupt politicians responsible for all the many hoaxes.
If he charged $5, I'd gladly buy it just to see them slimy politicians squirm.
I think if there was like a government program in the Trump administration where it was like $10 a month, subscribe, and you get to watch Trump fire corrupt bureaucrats and politicians.
donald trump-jr
You can cosign the order.
seamus coughlin
The audience votes, the audience votes for the person to be voted on.
donald trump-jr
Make it like The Apprentice, you know what I mean?
And again, they'll say, we'll give the money to the U.S.
Treasury, we'll pay down some of the $31.5 trillion in debt that they're racking up.
I think we could pay back a pretty good chunk, a lot of people would pay to be a part of that.
tim pool
I just, I think, I think everybody would subscribe instantly and be like, you just turn it on all day and let it run 24-7 and it's your day.
donald trump-jr
You could actually probably get rid of taxes.
unidentified
Right.
donald trump-jr
You know, enough people will be like, we're generating enough revenue without taxes now because.
tim pool
You've just got the bobs, you know.
Adam Schiff walks in, what do you say you do here?
All right, Seth Weathers says, Conservative Dad's Ultra Right Beer will be available for distribution in Florida next month.
Don Jr., will you put it in Mar-a-Lago on tap?
Have you heard of it?
donald trump-jr
I've seen some of the stuff.
I know a bunch of guys were starting, you know, talking about some of that stuff.
So yeah, listen, get me some information.
tim pool
Seth Weathers launched Conservative Dad's Ultra Right Beer in response to- I saw it on social, yeah.
Much like we have Jeremy's chocolate, I think this is great that people are basically launching alternatives to these companies.
If they want to get woke, they can go broke.
So we ordered a bunch, Seth.
We ordered a bunch for here, because we keep drinks stocked for our guests.
So I'm looking forward to that.
Let's grab some more Super Chats.
Agamemnon's Gym Bag says, Seamus and company, let's hear your best Trump impression.
seamus coughlin
Uh, my Trump's- my Trump's not that great, but I can- I'm gonna have to immediately bow out.
tim pool
I'm- I'm- I'm- Quite frankly, okay.
seamus coughlin
What- what am I supposed to talk about?
tim pool
No, no, I'm only- I'm only- I'm only reading this one because his son is right here.
hannah claire brimelow
Don't you use your favorite son!
unidentified
For some people's sake, I won't dabe-dabe.
For some people's sake, it's a great impression.
seamus coughlin
What's yours?
Do you do the Trump impression?
hannah claire brimelow
In all of your siblings?
unidentified
No!
donald trump-jr
There's a couple things.
I don't do the Trump impression.
I don't make fun of hair because maybe the Trump hair gene kicks in one day.
And so I'm like, I'm just not going to play with it.
I'm just going to leave it alone.
hannah claire brimelow
It's risking too much.
donald trump-jr
It's a karma thing.
I'm just not going to go there.
seamus coughlin
Is that what the impression is too?
You think you're going to get to his age and just sound identical?
donald trump-jr
They already say I have the hand gesture.
It's funny, when I'm doing my podcast on Mondays at 6 and Thursdays at 6 on Rumble, he called me.
He's like, I saw the podcast content.
You got a lot less hands.
seamus coughlin
He does do the voice!
donald trump-jr
A lot less hands, Don.
I go, like, how much less hands?
He goes, like, 95% less hands.
I go, I'm going 20 times more hands?
He speaks with his hands, too.
Like I'm going I'm going 20 times more hands like he speaks with his hands to the accordion thing
Yeah, you know so I guess I do that too, and I just I get impassioned and no one's ever said I'm low energy
You get thrown out of the window of Trump Tower if you're low energy in my family.
That's great.
But he was like, yes, 95% less hands.
I was like, man.
hannah claire brimelow
Did you feel like that was the kettle calling pot black?
You were like, sir, king of the hand gesture.
tim pool
100%.
donald trump-jr
It's like when, honestly, the best Yes, because there's a couple times where I'm like, we have to have a discussion about self-awareness.
Like, you know, I would get a call sometimes when he was president.
I'd get a call from the White House and, you know, Don, you're too aggressive on Twitter.
unidentified
What?
I'm like, really?
donald trump-jr
Really?
Wow!
unidentified
What you said about Rosie was horrible.
donald trump-jr
Yeah, it's like that 80s drug commercial, like, I learned it by watching you, Dad.
unidentified
I'm sitting there being like, man, of all the things...
donald trump-jr
I'm not saying, like, I will listen to him on many things.
If he's got business advice, political, I mean, the guy's done a lot.
He's accomplished a lot.
I was like, this is the one place where maybe you've seeded, like, the moral high ground here.
Like, I'm like, I don't understand.
Of all the things!
And I get it.
I mean, with Kimberly, she'd be like, I'm like, uh-oh, it's the White House.
unidentified
What'd you do now?
donald trump-jr
I'm scrolling, trying to figure out what I said.
And I was like, I don't know.
It's like, you know.
tim pool
You gotta tone it down.
donald trump-jr
You can't turn some things off.
tim pool
I learned it from you, Dad!
All right, what do we got here?
seamus coughlin
What do we got?
Should have been much nicer to that reporter.
donald trump-jr
Yeah.
unidentified
She's a good lady.
You're too aggressive.
tim pool
Iggy Dinkybus says, Seamus, you should animate this Fetterman speech like you did with Biden's corn pop story.
seamus coughlin
Oh, I totally should.
By the way, yeah, so we made an animation a few years ago of Joe Biden's corn pop speech because when he's telling the story, you kind of can't tell what he's talking about.
So we like boarded it out and put animation to it.
So maybe I should do the same thing with what Fetterman said so we can make sense of it.
donald trump-jr
No, that's impossible.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I don't know, because I thought the corn pop speech was impossible to make out, too.
donald trump-jr
Well, the corn pop was ridiculous, but the Fetterman thing is literally just verbal diarrhea.
seamus coughlin
It's true.
donald trump-jr
You look at that and be like, the republic's over.
You pack it up, folks.
tim pool
That's what I said, riding the bomb down, swinging the hat.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Robert Knight says, Joe Biden is the victim of elder abuse.
We should highlight that constantly.
Shame on Jill and his handlers.
donald trump-jr
Well, a hundred percent.
I mean, listen, couldn't it happen to a nicer guy?
We've all had, we all know people or family or whatever that have gone through these things as they get older and stuff like that, but like that they can, oh, he's going to run again.
It's going to be great.
What could go wrong?
I'm like, what could go wrong?
Like, have you turned on like the news?
Like we're on the brink of World War III.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you ever feel like they're running him because Kamal never picked up any popularity?
donald trump-jr
Oh, I think if they could, you know, replace him with someone that checks a lot of those boxes.
Oh, not even a question.
hannah claire brimelow
I always had the impression they wanted him to be a one-term president.
donald trump-jr
Oh, yes.
She was the designated heir, and they assumed that she had both brains and capability.
It turns out no.
It turns out she has neither.
But only because they put her in there because she checked off those boxes.
It doesn't take a lot.
uh you know to understand that there's not really any of that there and based on even the work history and all that stuff like it's it's all you know created optics but never real actual accomplishment like you know you guys actually next time talk to Kimberly more about it because she worked in that like San Francisco DA's office with you and you just understand what's you know oh she's got a lot of ambition but that's probably about it in terms of that but yeah that'll get you far Jake says Ingersoll Lockwood was also a watchmaker.
tim pool
Where Ingersoll lived and made watches have some interesting synchronicities with the modern Trumps as well.
So I guess there were two books and there was another book called, what was the third one?
1900, The President or whatever.
hannah claire brimelow
The Last President, I think.
tim pool
The Last President.
And it's about like the socialists storming Fifth Avenue, a hotel on Fifth Avenue or something like that.
People think that it's... We've got some books for you to read.
donald trump-jr
Yeah, apparently.
tim pool
You have to study up.
donald trump-jr
I haven't done much in my, you know, 18th century Literature.
seamus coughlin
Your 18th century time-traveling fiction is not brushed up.
unidentified
You came on this podcast without brushing up on your 18th century time-traveling fiction?
donald trump-jr
I will hang my head in shame.
seamus coughlin
I hope Trump gives you another call.
donald trump-jr
I can't believe you haven't read about Barron Trump.
unidentified
It's part of our family's history.
tim pool
I think it was Posobiec who said his favorite conspiracy is that Steve Bannon is Barron from the future.
unidentified
That he comes back in time to I love that.
Oh my gosh.
donald trump-jr
That's amazing.
tim pool
Yeah.
So in terms of the hand gesture thing, People on the freedom side of things, whatever you want to call it, some people call it right, but then conservatives, you know, they don't consider people like me a conservative or whatever, but we can make memes and laugh about Trump doing the accordion hands, where it's like, as he's talking, and it's hilarious, and we can also make Joe Biden cartoons of him telling the corn pop story, we laugh at all of it, but the left, they can't handle it.
It's like apostasy.
seamus coughlin
No, well they freak out.
tim pool
It's blasphemy, sorry.
seamus coughlin
No, it's blasphemy, and this is something I've noticed too, like, To their credit, there are some people on the left who will watch my videos and enjoy them, but then there are some people on the left who they'll see my videos and they'll say something like, oh, well, it was funny when he made fun of Dave Rubin, but I don't like the rest of his stuff.
It's like, I was funny when I was making fun of someone you don't like.
tim pool
Right.
seamus coughlin
That's what you're saying.
I was funny when I made fun of someone you didn't like, but then I just stopped being talented when I was making fun of people you do like.
It's remarkable.
donald trump-jr
I feel like it's like everything else, whether it's the attack on the family, I mean, they don't want any place that you can go for joy.
Like, you know, humor is gone.
I mean, I think of like the stuff that the funniest comedy of when I was in like college, like, you know, when Chappelle was doing Chappelle show and stuff like that, like, you couldn't do those skits today.
You know, the black white supremacist is one of the great skits of all time.
And like, you'd never get away with that today.
You know, you're almost like, you know, when you pull it up for like a refresher once a year to be like, ah, it was fun.
Like, you're almost like, I don't know.
Like, it's on my search history now.
Like, I can't.
seamus coughlin
Adam Schiff's going to indict you for that.
He watched white supremacist content.
Dave Chappelle.
hannah claire brimelow
It's crazy.
tim pool
Alright, My Third Nut says, Hey Don Jr., I'd vote for Trump, however his recent 2A statements at the town hall have me feeling a bit soured.
Why does he seem apprehensive towards 2A support?
If he became pro-2A, I'd vote for him without hesitation.
donald trump-jr
I don't know.
Actually, I don't remember his two-way statements about that.
I mean, I know he's, uh, you know, you see what's going on right now.
I mean, I'm gonna actually do a whole show with a buddy.
I mean, obviously, I'm probably about as big a two-way guy as I can.
That's probably my, like, single-issue vote thing.
And I, you know, I shoot competitively.
I have my wife.
I'm a big hunter.
Like, I, you know.
I'm going to do a whole thing on my show on Monday with my buddy, George Armstrong, who's a manufacturer, actually, and talking about all the stuff as it relates to the pistol brace stuff coming up.
And so I didn't, I must have missed those comments on that.
But, you know, what's going on right now and the threat and the attack and the registrations and all of this stuff, all without, you know, done through the ATF and unelected officials is crazy stuff.
And I know there's a couple guys in Congress trying to do something about it.
I don't think it's going to happen before that, so we're actually going to talk about it.
Would you want to abolish the ATF?
unidentified
Oh, 100%.
donald trump-jr
What do they do?
No, they don't do anything.
Eliminate freedom.
Listen, let's talk about the one at hand, right?
The pistol brace thing is going into effect on May 31st.
The pistol brace rules that allowed, you know, they're saying it's the way around the SBR.
The ATF built that.
That's their design.
Like, there's times, you know, when, hey, you give, like, the American redneck, like, a blueprint.
This is the law.
They'll figure out a way around it.
And I can say, okay, fine.
If this was something that, you know, people figured out a way around an existing law to be able to get by something, they created this.
They wrote this.
And now they want to make millions of Americans Felons.
For having millions of pistol-braced AR-15s and saying it's an SBR.
Guess what?
Even if it's an SBR, who cares?
Like, what's an SBR gonna- like, it's nonsense.
tim pool
Just like- Seal the NFA.
donald trump-jr
Yeah.
tim pool
Get rid of the ATF.
Don't need them.
donald trump-jr
A hundred percent.
tim pool
But that's a big undertaking with Congress.
donald trump-jr
No, of course.
Well, that's the problem, right?
You know, people are like, why didn't Trump do something with, you know, the Hearing Protection Act, right?
Well, because Congress didn't put it on his desk.
Like, they weren't, you know, like, the president doesn't unilaterally make laws.
That's not how it works in reality.
tim pool
There was the bump stock ban.
donald trump-jr
Yes.
tim pool
And then I think he said, Luke is always ragging on this, said something about, I like to take them first and then legislate afterwards or something like that.
donald trump-jr
Yeah, I wasn't a fan of the bump stock ban.
I mean, listen, I have dozens of guns.
Like, you know, a lot more than that.
They got overturned recently anyway, I think.
I don't know that it did.
tim pool
Yeah, I think the federal court ruled it unconstitutional or something.
donald trump-jr
Probably, because it's an accessory or whatever.
Like, the whole thing.
Listen, but the pistol bracelet is a lot different in my mind in the sense that it's literally ruled on by the ATF.
Like, they created this law, now they're going to make people spend millions of dollars to fix millions of firearms or you're a felon.
And again, I don't like the back way and sort of way of registering it.
Now, do I register them?
I probably have to, for me.
I'm not recommending it to others, but I know that someone's gonna see me with a gun, or they know that I have dozens of guns.
hannah claire brimelow
You have a different target on your neck.
seamus coughlin
You are so under the microscope, too.
donald trump-jr
I'm not gonna get the Hunter Biden treatment that if I have, and again, it's not like I don't have plenty of ARs that aren't registered, that aren't SBRs, or aren't pistol-braced, so it's like, it's fine, but I hate it in principle, but I know that, like, there's a solid chance of, you know, if there's ever a Hey, I'll get a knock on the door like they used the hostage rescue team to knock on the door of Mar-a-Lago, and if I have one thing that's out of compliance, I'm going to jail, and like, I'm not getting a mulligan.
tim pool
I gotta ask you before we run out of time, because we did ask you this when you called in last time about Julian Assange and Apartheid, and you said, we gotta pardon these guys.
So while we have you here, I really, this one's particularly important to me, especially to some of my friends.
What's currently going on with Julian Assange?
I think that none of this should ever happen.
The man should be free.
I'm curious if you want to elaborate on your thoughts.
donald trump-jr
Yeah, listen, I think we got into it last time.
I don't know if I fully sort of gave you my views on it.
I think if you would have asked me this in 2016, I'd say it's terrible and, you know, same with Snowden.
I can't believe they did this.
If they put our people in harm's way, You know, and now I'm looking at it, and now I'm looking at it in light of what we found out about Ukraine, and I'm like, wait a minute, now that I've been a fly on the wall, right, now that I've been a subject
To their, you know, witch hunts or to their, you know, disaster, whatever we want to call it, whatever just happened, I think it's far worse than a witch hunt, frankly, at this point.
My views have changed entirely.
I think there was that time when I had that, well, the American government and the FBI and our CIA, they're doing it in our best interest.
No, they're not.
You know, at that time, I would have said those guys are, you know, they're a traitor to the country or they're, you know, Now?
Like the guy that... After that Time magazine cover.
Yeah, after that I was like, so my views have changed.
I think a hundred percent you have to let them go.
I think you need those kind of things to keep us in check.
It'd be different if I thought we were functioning as good actors, but we're not.
That's evidenced as recently as two weeks ago in Ukraine when, you know, magically a 21 year old air corpsman, uh, you know, has all those classified documents about boots on the ground in Ukraine when we're told explicitly we don't No, we don't.
I have a feeling that whistleblower, or that guy, is going to go to jail for a very long time, but he could have stopped World War III as far as I'm concerned.
So, again, my sentiments now, knowing what I know, and again, maybe I was wrong years ago, but again, I wanted to believe It's like Santa.
You want to believe that it's true when you're a kid, you know what I mean?
Like, I wanted to believe they're doing good things.
I wanted to believe, oh, you're putting people in harm's way.
Well, no, you're putting people in harm's way because we have boots on the ground in a war we're not supposed to be in that you're telling us we're not in, that we're funding unilaterally against the world's largest by volume nuclear superpower.
Like, that's a problem.
And, you know, again, that one disappeared really quickly, which means there's probably other incriminating evidence that, you know, all of a sudden we don't hear about this one.
So, you know, my views have changed.
A lot of my political views now, frankly, have changed, having been in the room and seen... Been the target.
Been the target, been in the room.
And so, you know, that would be a big one for me.
Do I ever want to put our people in the field in harm's way?
100% no.
You know what I mean?
I think there's reason, you know, that has to be had here, but like, if we're acting as bad, like, we've lost the moral high ground on a lot of stuff that we, you know, that I thought we were able to have, and it's because these guys are telling us what we're actually doing, and that's important.
tim pool
I'll tell you my view on this.
I'm not convinced as much on Edward Snowden.
I'd probably be like, okay, fine, you know, let him come home.
Julian Assange, very different.
Edward Snowden gets documents working internally and then leaks them.
People call him a whistleblower.
What he did was he had a big trove of documents that he did not review and gave them out.
donald trump-jr
Yeah.
tim pool
There was a lot of important information revealed by doing that, which I think is good.
We saw that they were lying to Congress, they were spying on us.
But there's a big difference between leaking, whistleblowing, and journalism.
Correct.
Julian Assange received materials from whistleblowers and then reported on it.
And they actually would redact and they would make phone calls.
He would contact the State Department and say, hey, we received his materials.
We want to make sure nobody's put in harm's way.
And then they drummed up all these insane lies to try and destroy him because he was effective.
So, it's like, people come to me about Edward Snowden, and I'm like, yeah, okay, I get it.
But Julian Assange... Yeah, Assange is obviously, you know, the no-brainer in that.
donald trump-jr
But yeah, listen, you see it every day, right?
They disbanded the group at the IRS that was investigating Hunter Biden and the tax fraud.
It's like, I mean, you took it over by, like, Joe Biden's DOJ took that over because they had a whistleblower.
I remember when whistleblowers were above reproach.
Uh, you know, look at what they did with, you know, Alexander Vindman!
He's a great American hero!
He, you know, maybe, you know, offered the job to the Ukrainian defense minister, and who the hell knows what it, you know, grifting off of that, but like, he was a great hero because it was against Trump, and so that, again, the way these things are applied, the way the rules are, the way people are protected as whistleblowers or thrown under the bus as whistleblowers, uh, we live in two very different worlds, and I'd like to see actually just some, you know, equal, equal treatment of those people.
tim pool
I agree.
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donald trump-jr
Listen, I guess just if you like what I'm saying, check me out on my Rumble podcast on Mondays and Thursdays at 6pm, conflicting a little bit with our friend over here.
There's always time to watch both.
seamus coughlin
We'll just have to cross-stream at some point, you know?
donald trump-jr
Yeah.
unidentified
You see?
seamus coughlin
Talking about shameless plugs working my way in.
donald trump-jr
Maybe we have to do that.
We'll have to make that happen.
tim pool
Right on!
seamus coughlin
Seamus Coghlan, not the only person giving plugs anymore.
Feels good.
I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.
We're going to be uploading a cartoon tomorrow that I think you guys are really going to enjoy.
This is one about the fact that men have periods now.
I don't know if you've heard of this.
donald trump-jr
I've heard that that's science, Seamus.
seamus coughlin
Yes, it is science.
And if you deny that, you're a science denier.
You are a science denier.
hannah claire brimelow
Why would you guys want those?
I just don't understand.
seamus coughlin
Because, look, all I'm saying is what Democrats have literally done, by definition, what the left has done here, because trans women, I'm told, menstruate, and because trans men still menstruate, they have increased the number of people in the world PMSing.
That's what they've done.
That's all they've done.
So, check that cartoon out.
It's coming out tomorrow.
And also, on Rumble, I have a stream called Shamer.
Thank you very much.
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serge du preez
Um, I wouldn't cross streams.
That's like the first rule of Ghostbusters.
unidentified
Just to call you guys out.
donald trump-jr
Nice little Ghostbusters reference, I like that.
unidentified
Old school.
serge du preez
Yeah, gotta call you guys out, but beyond that, fun show.
Glad we're going to members only in a second here.
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donald trump-jr
So I can misbehave a little bit more now.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
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