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May 19, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool

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Timcast IRL - DeSantis BANS Child Sex Changes, Disney DUMPS State Sparking OUTRAGE w/Kingsley Cortes

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		One of the biggest stories from this week, just the other day, Ron DeSantis signed two
		bills expanding the, what the media likes to call the Don't Say Gay Bill, which is the,
		actually, the Parental Rights and Education Bill, and he also banned what the left refers
		to as gender-affirming surgeries for minors, or, to be factual, I know a lot of people
		get offended by facts, they really do, they're very mad at me about it, child sex change
		interventions, surgery and medication, those are banned in Florida, and in response we're
		seeing a whole bunch of lefties freaking out and of course lying.
		About what's actually going on.
		Another really big story that's been going around for a while that we'll get into is a teacher who provided instruction to middle schoolers, their kids who are like 9 to 12 years old, on let's just say adult activities and how to secretly meet up with adults for adult activities.
		And of course, NBC News is lying about this, trying to, for some reason, cover it up.
		So we'll talk about that, plus we got that woman, the nurse, they called her a Karen, said she was trying to steal a bike from some young black man, but then it was proven that she was actually being robbed by them.
		Her lawyer is saying they plan to sue the media for defamation.
		So we'll talk about that and a bunch of other stories.
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		You probably want to see it, because I kind of just went off on this rant about the current drama surrounding me.
		One of our guests cancelled on us for the Culture War podcast, so that wasn't live.
		And it was because I made fact statements.
		Seriously.
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		Not surprised.
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		Joining us today to talk about this and a whole lot more is Kingsley Cortez.
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		Hey, guys, thanks for having me.
		My name is Kingsley Cortez.
		I'm a Trump campaign alum.
		I currently do digital media at the Center for Renewing America in Washington, D.C., and I'm also national committee woman for the D.C.
		Young Republicans.
		So please follow me at Kingsley Cortez on all the platforms.
		I'm on, you know, Getter, Truth, Twitter, the whole shebang.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
		Thanks for hanging out.
		We got Phil Labonte.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Hello, everyone.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I am Phil Labonte, the lead singer for All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary here with Hello, guys.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I am Brett Dasovic.
		I am the host of Pop Culture Crisis right here on YouTube.com.
		We had a great episode go up today with Gothic, so after this episode tonight, you should go and check that one out, because it was a lot of fun.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		And I am Surge.com Fillion for Kellan PDL.
		He is off chasing rainbows or something.
		I don't know what he's doing, but it'll be a good show, so let's get started.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's jump into this first story, The Outrage.
		Following Ron DeSantis' ban on sex change surgery for kids, AP News reports parents of transgender kids seek to block DeSantis' ban on gender-affirming care for minors.
		The first thing I want to say about this is it's always language.
		They never tell you the truth.
		This is what got me in trouble apparently with one of our guests who was going to come on the Culture War podcast and then did not, is that I'm not here to play games for the left or the right, but that means you're basically going to be aligned with the right.
		What I mean by that is, We've got an editorial team over at TimCast.com.
		We write news.
		And one of the articles we were writing, something came up having to do with pro-choice and pro-life.
		And I was reading this and I got kind of frustrated because there was some quote from some activist and I said, I'm confused as to what they're trying to say.
		So I said, I don't think we should say pro-choice or pro-life.
		Those are political terms.
		If they're protesting to ban abortion, we should say protesting in opposition to abortion or protesting in support of abortion.
		So we can just say anti- or pro-abortion.
		And everybody agreed, like, that's a fair point.
		Remove the political terminology from it.
		Be direct.
		That triggers the left.
		They get very, very angry.
		So in this instance, you can see right there in the headline, gender-affirming care for minors.
		That is a leftist term.
		That is an ideological term to support their ideology.
		Why is the AP doing that?
		So somebody at the AP said in our style guide, we are going to just use the language of left-wing activists?
		Here's what we say.
		The right would call it mutilation.
		I don't call it that.
		And many conservatives are like, look, I'm saying it is a child sex change surgery and medical intervention.
		That's just a fact statement.
		That pisses the left off to no end.
		If you don't use their language, that's it, they come after you.
		Whereas the right will just go, okay, I guess.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The left has a very significant authoritarian streak in them right now in the U.S.
		and in the West.
		You have to think like they think.
		That's where the whole gendered using someone's pronouns comes from.
		You have to think of a trans woman as a woman.
		Trans women are women.
		Not trans women are trans women.
		They make a demand on your cognitive liberty.
		This is as authoritarian as it gets.
		They're demanding that you think like them.
		And it bothers me that liberals, actual liberals in the U.S.
		So we got this tweet from Chris Hayes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I love this one.
		He says, The law DeSantis signed in Florida banning care for trans kids is despicable and a frontal assault on the vaunted parental rights he and his ideological cohort have been screaming about for years.
		In Florida, you no longer get to make health care decisions for your own child.
		Ron DeSantis makes them.
		It doesn't matter what you think is best for your kids, Ron tells you.
		This is the weirdest thing.
		But I feel like as long as you read the stories, you can see through the thin veneer, the lies.
		What is he talking about?
		You can't make healthcare decisions for your kids?
		No, there's a medical, the chief medical officer or whatever they have, the surgeon general in Florida, who makes these medical decisions on what doctors, you know, basically overseeing how the health system is working.
		You've got the law, the legislature, Ron DeSantis signed what the state legislature presented to him.
		They are playing a political game, probably because 2024, but it's all just so crazy how they lie about all this stuff.
		There is no contradiction in saying a parent has a right to decide what a child learns, and a parent does not have a right to determine if their child should be sterilized or not.
		Like, at a certain point, the state intervenes to protect children.
		Under Chris Hayes' argument, he thinks you should be allowed to mercilessly beat your own children.
		Let's show you what you think is best for them, right?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He's pro-snake handling.
		Like, that's the thing.
		The state should not step in and prevent snake handling.
		You're chopping off the genitals of children.
		If children are gender dysphoric, you wait until after puberty because gender dysphoria tends to go away.
		The idea that Chris Hayes is saying is that Pete, like, the state should not step in and say, you can't starve your, you can't starve your children.
		The state should not step in and say, you must provide medical care to your children.
		Like, stepping in and saying that it's okay for the state to, or for parents to literally cut their children, allow their children to cut their bodies up.
		Everyone knows that tattoo like forever tattoos have been off-limits for anyone under 18 and there was never a stink about it and now Because it's not just the LGBT Lobby and the ideology that comes along with with trans with the LGBT perspective now.
		It's like, it's all about trying to shove the idea down people's throats.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was gonna say, it's not just surgery, it's the medication, too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's the chemical puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones, which also cause sterilization, to the point where even these high-profile websites that are advising on what they call gender-affirming care say you have to preserve your reproductive material as these treatments, they call it, will tend to remove your ability to reproduce.
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		I think, too, just people like Chris Hayes, they aren't used to seeing Republicans wield power and fight back, especially on cultural issues.
		Because, I mean, the GOP in my lifetime has delivered, you know, tax cuts and endless wars.
		And that's about it.
		So I think, you know, for the first time to see conservatives wading into the cultural issues and pushing back and fighting this totally nuts stuff is really important.
		And I think it's it shocks the left because they're not used to it.
		But we need to do more of it, because if you don't have a culture, you don't have a country.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's because when they say boo, when they call you racist or sexist or homophobic, then they get everyone on the right to immediately cave to whatever demands they have because they understand that they do wield the power of most of the journalists and all of that complex in this country.
		So if you have the power of 10,000 journalists who can use a bunch of buzzwords and names
		to call you, you wield a lot of power to stop people from proposing bills that they want
		to propose, from speaking out on social media in the ways they want to.
		And the media does the same thing when they use these terms like gender affirming care,
		which are to the uninitiated, will read it and aren't going to look into it any further.
		And all they're going to get from that is evil right wing guy does evil right wing thing
		because they're bad.
		And I think for the average person who doesn't read the whole article, who only reads paragraph
		one, who doesn't look into what the actual meaning of these terms are, that wields a
		lot of power because people don't look any deeper.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm torn.
		You know, I am.
		On the one hand, I'm concerned about these children and whether or not these treatments actually are the right thing to do, because the science shows desistance rates are very, very high.
		We went over this with Lance from the Serfs around...
		Reaching up to 98% or something like that.
		So most kids go through puberty and then they just stop experiencing this.
		And we've already seen in Europe, they've been abandoning these procedures.
		On the other hand, I think if Chris Hayes wants to sterilize his children, we shouldn't stop him.
		And you know, it's funny, I'm half kidding.
		The issue here is, I'm not a conservative.
		Chris Hayes comes out and says, his children, he has the right to bring them to a doctor and remove their ability to reproduce.
		And I'm kind of like, Well, I suppose the challenge is, do these children have rights to not have their lives irreparably harmed by the actions of their parents?
		The answer is, yes, of course.
		Just because a doctor tells you to do it doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.
		But these people are voting to terminate the lives of their children and take away their and their children's ability to reproduce, and I'm kind of like...
		We're not in a position to assert absolute authority over them to stop them from doing it.
		There has to be a vote on it.
		In Florida, the vote has been, you can't do it.
		Chris Hayes is losing his mind.
		But if this guy then moves to a state that allows it, like California, it's like, okay, well, you know, the worst case scenario in the end of all of this is the future is conservative.
		Conservatives have a bunch of kids.
		Liberals sterilize their kids.
		It just seems like it doesn't matter in the grand scale.
		It matters to the individual.
		It matters to the rights.
		It matters what we think people should be allowed to do to kids because those kids are going to grow up.
		They're going to be very angry.
		We've already seen it.
		Many detransitioners.
		But then I'm thinking about holistically the whole world and where we're going.
		This is a small blip in the history of the United States that I think will cease to exist relatively shortly.
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I definitely agree with you that they're almost, you know, self-selecting out of reproducing.
		Existence.
		Yeah, and for us on the right, I mean, that means more votes for us, right?
		But also, does it mean more violence for us?
		You look at people like the Nashville shooter or the individual who killed that woman in Arizona.
		So there is, you know, I think having mentally ill people running around your society is not conducive to a society that is safe and allows for, you know, community flourishing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is the big challenge across the board, though, like we see in San Francisco.
		We want to help people who are suffering.
		Like, this is one of the challenges humans face.
		Balancing helping people with making sure that the crazy people who are unwell aren't dragging the whole system down.
		You know, they say when you're sitting on a plane, you gotta put your own mask on before putting on the mask of the person next to you.
		So how can we, as the United States, keep doing the opposite?
		Sacrificing our cities and our economies for people who are not contributing, it's just breaking the system.
		Then eventually, we're gonna be left with empty cities and barren streets and no farms and no food and people are gonna wonder how it happened.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's just so tiring to hear people, like you said, lie, like hearing Chris Hayes portraying things the way that he does.
		It's just, it's exhausting and extremely frustrating because there's people that have lives And they go about their day and they don't have the time to shove their face in Twitter or read a bunch of queer theory books or you know it's and that's one of the things that the left really relies on is people living their lives and going about their day and not knowing what they're talking about every like we talk on this show all the time about the fact that there are
		That the left has one dictionary, or that we use the same lexicon, but a different dictionary.
		The meanings of words change and stuff.
		That's intentional.
		Your average person doesn't know that.
		Your average person doesn't understand that.
		So when the left starts throwing around jargon at them, they feel like, they're like, I don't know what any of this means.
		They're like, ah, just stop, you know, whatever you say.
		And it's such a manipulative, it's so manipulative, and it's frustrating to see so many people Constantly battering you with a message that is completely fabricated.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I was talking to someone recently when we were discussing the idea that when you watch the news, depending on where you get your news from, you're living in a completely different reality from the person next to you if they get their news from a different source.
		And the language does a lot of that in the same way.
		You could be having a conversation.
		You might both know the word, but you have your own definitions for what that word means.
		So you end up with a completely different conversation and you never actually get To any type of understanding, because you can't get past the dialogue that's spoken.
		And I think that's also a problem when we talk about, you were talking about whether you think that this is a self-correcting problem.
		That's why they're so good at organizing and why they're so good at recruiting, because recruiting is how they grow.
		Because if they're not having families, if they're not expanding through their own gene pool, they have to organize through community leadership.
		They have to organize through propaganda in the media, and they do that very, very well.
		And I think in social media, TikTok, that is how They influence the next generation of people.
		I don't think it will be as easy as just something that cancels itself out in a generation or two because a lot of these people, conservatives included, there was a thing on Mother's Day where it said happy, it was a happy Mother's Day post and it was a bunch of iPads.
		Because kids are looking at their parents are putting their a tablet in front of them.
		They're not watching what they're looking at in the media.
		And that's right.
		The kids younger and younger are being influenced on websites that are not protecting them.
		Yeah, what kid under the age of 13 was wouldn't know to hit the I yes, I am 13 button on tick tock.
		The kids, I don't think it's ever going to be as simple as just it's going to be drowned out by the fact that they're not reproducing.
		It's something that you have to culturally change, whether that's through putting out your own media that will be an alternative source to them, or the type of thing where they need to do better about making sure their kids aren't taking in a bunch of stuff that they don't know.
		But then what do you do from there?
		Then you go to the school system.
		The school system pushes on it too.
		They really have surrounded The culture in every way.
		And to me it sounds blackmailed.
		It's like it's I don't think it's that simple.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm not suggesting that we just sit back and do nothing and then by having kids.
		No, I'm saying it's all it's all interconnected.
		The less they have kids and the more the right says we're not bringing our kids to your schools.
		You will get a natural tendency towards a culture being developed by the right, which we're seeing across the board with comic books and cartoons, as well as parallel economies.
		Jeremy's Chocolate and Razors.
		We got Casper Coffee.
		Jeremy from the Quartering has Coffee Brand Coffee.
		A bunch of companies popping up, competing with the establishment that is falling apart.
		I look at all of these in the big picture and I'm just like, over a long enough period of time, the future seems obvious.
unidentified		Right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I just feel like for me at this point I'm like, I'm gonna invest in one of these companies because it seems inevitable.
		Sure there's a bunch of variables, who knows what'll change, but I don't see how you reverse course and salvage the left.
		You've got decaying media organizations.
		They're going out of business.
		CNN's ratings have dropped below Newsmax.
		BuzzFeed News is gone.
		Vice is in bankruptcy.
		All of these companies, they're losing clicks.
		They're losing followers.
		They're freaking out.
		They're fleeing Twitter.
		Their influence is crumbling.
		Then, they're sterilizing and aborting their own children.
		Conservatives are pulling their kids out of these schools.
		Their influence is going to be gone in 10 years.
		Then you add them to the fact they're not having kids, give it 20 or 30 years, and you're going to have two new generations entering the cultural space who have not been influenced by their media because their media is ceasing to exist.
		Disney just announced they're going to be moving a whole bunch of their products over.
		Was it from Hulu to Disney Plus?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're going to bundle everything so that you can get everything in one place.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But that means they're also locking things up.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		They also got rid of a bunch of the Willow and the really bad stuff that came out.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		They took like 50 or 60 things off Disney Plus because it's literally just taking up server space and nobody's watching any of it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I just think all of those things together predict a conservative future.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's, it makes sense that, you know, the theory that you have, I'm not so sure, not so confident, I think, that the left's very, has a subversive agenda, and I think that it's more than just trying to get people to, you know, or just the people not having kids.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I do think that the left is going to come after the existing kids.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but they can try, but they're diminishing.
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		I think that they own all the institutions, right?
		Like, if you're one of these parents who's pissed off that, you know, gay porn is in your kid's library, you protest that at a school board meeting, you're going to be put on a no-fly list.
		Like, the FBI is going to knock on your door.
		So I think that the fear tactics still exist because the left controls almost every institution in this country, and combating that, getting people to be willing to combat that, to put their livelihoods on the line, is a hard thing to do.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I think Styx Hexenhammer two years ago said you're better off organizing in the local departments.
		Run for your local school boards.
		Run for local government.
		You'll make more of a difference there than worrying about the presidential race, which is, in a lot of ways, for most people, it's a spectator sport.
		How much of those decisions do they see on the daily?
		We see it now.
		With inflation and things like that, but in general, you're going to get a lot more mileage and you're going to get a lot more out of working at your local level.
unidentified		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think the local stuff is, is extremely important to people because you can have a whole lot more, you know, effect on, on your local politics.
		You know, if you can, if you might bump into, you know, your selectmen and obviously if you're in like New York city or if you're in one of the major cities, it's going to be, Significantly less likely that you'll bump into like your, I don't know, whatever they have aldermens or whatever.
		I don't know.
unidentified		But if you in a smaller town, Chicago has aldermens, right?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, it's probably not very likely that you will, but you'll look, you'll run into other people that are in your community if you're active in your community.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And that's the way to have the most influence on your community is, you know, school, school boards or, or, you know, any kind of civic stuff that's going on that needs to be taken care of.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That's why they got rid of civics from school programs a long time ago.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That was very much planned.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I agree with you, I think so, but the legal and local method is, I think, the actual way to go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to this story and make everybody angry.
		You may have seen this story, but we're going to bring it up here for this Friday's show.
		This is from today.com.
		She offered a LGBTQ-themed book to her children.
		Normally they put the plus, but there's like a dash there, so I had to say minus.
		Anyway, they say she offered an LGBTQ-themed book to her middle schoolers.
		Parents filed a police report.
		Danielle Campo Amor.
		She writes this story saying she'd been an Illinois middle school teacher for 20 years.
		So middle school is, what is that, 8 to 12?
		8 to 13?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Middle school is 8 to 12, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The book in question is a book called This Book is Gay.
		The article from today doesn't tell you what she actually did.
		I am going to keep the language family friendly for all of you because you may have children listening.
		This teacher provided instruction to children, children ages presumably middle schoolers, so you were 8 to 13, on how to meet adult men for gay sex.
		She provided them on instruction on how to consume the bodily materials of other adult men.
unidentified		Dude.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		There's that language again, that this is how they win.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is the language, because by not telling you... I think I told them exactly what it was.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm being academic here.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm saying this is why the article wins, because the average person reads it, doesn't know that that's what that says.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Right, exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's an LGBTQ themed book.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		It's like that meme that says, no matter how much you hate journalists, you don't hate them enough, like this.
		That's true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, hold on.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That's what they were saying about the other story.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I have a question.
		I have a question.
		Danielle Campo Amor wrote this.
		Why did she not include that this teacher was providing this degree of instruction to children?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Because they're trying to hide it from parents.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But why would you want to hide it from parents?
		Why does Danielle Campo Amor, this writer for Today, not want parents to know that this teacher was instructing their children on how to arrange anonymous adult activities with adults, sexual activities?
		Why is she trying to obfuscate this?
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		I think because, you know, depravity and perversion seeks more of that, more of the same thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're getting warmer, but what does that mean?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Are you saying that Danielle Campo Moore is depraved and perverted?
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		I mean, clearly, yeah.
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		To leave out the stuff, absolutely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is it possible, then, that maybe Danielle Campo Moore shares certain predilections for children that this teacher might?
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		Is she also gay?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know about that.
		That's not material.
		I mean, that's how she would write it, I suppose.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But we're talking about a middle-aged teacher giving a book to children that explains to them how to eat male fluids, or I shouldn't say, I'll be very careful, provides instruction on the process of, because it does, I want to be, I'm being fair here, it does tell them not to do it.
		Yes, it says it's not safe.
		But it does include definitional breakdown of how it occurs and also what it means to consume feces.
		These things are being provided to children, but more importantly, it explains to them in detail how to use applications to upload their images as children.
		This is illegal!
		It's instructing them on making images of themselves to share with adults for anonymous encounters.
		I can only assume, I think it's the only fair assessment is, possibly, why someone working for a media organization would obfuscate this?
		They too are attracted to children.
		Because anybody, any sane adult who doesn't want children being harmed this way is not going to cover up for another pedophile.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, if they're ideologically possessed, they would.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I don't know... So you're saying that perhaps Danielle Campo Moore is not a pedophile herself, but that she wants to protect pedophiles.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yes, 100%.
		I am absolutely saying that.
		With full-throated, I am saying that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Actually, I would agree with that, because maybe it's viewed as like, you had that big movement, I shouldn't say big movement, you had that movement among pedophiles, LGBTP, where they're trying to get the P added to their, it didn't work, But it would make sense with that TED talk where that woman tried saying it's like she tried claiming it was normal.
		You have journalists who are like, yes, I agree with you.
		I will protect you.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		People that are familiar with queer theory.
		I think Gail Rubin is one of the original idea writers for queer theory.
		Mario Melelli was an Italian guy that was writing queer theory.
		Foucault, who's a postmodern leftist.
		All of these people that dip into queer theory have all in some way defended Pedophilia.
		The, uh, Gail Rubin calls it, um, called it intergenerational.
		And these are all things that if you want to go and read the text in Queer Theory, this is the cutting edge in sociology departments.
		I just got into an argument today with a friend of mine, not argument, but we were going back and forth on Twitter, and he's like, this, you know, this stuff isn't happening, blah blah blah, and I'm like, go look.
		Because I am not the one that's asserting these things.
		All I'm doing is relaying the information that are in books, in sociology departments, in queer theory, in LGBT studies, in probably in women's studies.
		These are the ideas that are in the sociology departments.
		I don't like them, I don't want them to be there, I didn't put them there, but don't get mad at me because I know they're there.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		When they say that it's not being taught, that nobody's talking about it, that it's not real, there was an episode of The Good Doctor in 2018 where they talk about a person who has a desire for interactions with children, and in the episode, they treat it with empathy because he has not acted on it, and that's, just to say, 2018.
		We're talking a very long time ago in that, when you really think about how long that's been mainstream.
		So it's not new.
		In any way shape or form.
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		And they've tried to change the language on this too, right?
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		They're calling pedophiles, there's a push to call them minor attractive persons.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Maps.
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		So I think, you know, this proves that the slippery slope is in fact very slippery.
		I think a lot of us, especially me, I was a little bit more libertarian in my college days.
		I kind of laughed when Christian conservatives said, you know, pushing for gay marriage is gonna open the floodgates, and it really has.
		I mean, look at what we're dealing with today in just a short amount of time.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Or the stories of people who get to, a guy gets to go to a woman's prison because he identifies a different way.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It really is when you allow that much subjectivity to the real world, bad things can happen.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I love the, uh, why do you care so much?
		It's like Seamus likes to bring that up.
		And then there was a, so what happened with the show we were supposed to do this morning is that I made a comment that was a very dry statement in my opinion about, um, The Normalization of Transgender Individuals, and it was Kim Petras on the cover of Sports Illustrated swimsuit.
		Now, Kim is biologically male, has undergone many surgeries, and the image had Kim halfway underwater, so you could only see half of the chest and up.
		And in response to my tweet, someone said something like, If it wasn't for grifters like Tim, you wouldn't even know that these people existed.
		And my response was, except for when they're on the cover of Sports Illustrated Magazine.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And had won a Grammy this year.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And right, it was singing with Sam Smith.
		I would love to talk about the Middle East right now.
		Did you guys see Assad?
		He met with Saudi Arabia.
		Hey, how about this?
		The civil war is basically over.
		Assad won.
		And him teaming up with Saudi Arabia, having this meeting, implies the petrodollars on the way out.
		How about we talk about things like that instead?
		No, but our culture is dominated by people who are gutting it from the ground up.
		So I certainly want to talk about it.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Sports Illustrated is actually interesting because it is like the hierarchy of what is acceptable in our society right now.
		There was four covers.
		There was the Kim Petras.
		You have a trans individual.
		You have Martha Stewart.
		So you got an 81-year-old lady.
		Then you have Megan Fox.
		Her whole thing was talking about body dysmorphia.
		And then there was just another lady named like Brooks Nader, who I wonder if she's related to Ralph Nader because that would be very cool.
		If that was true, but hers was just, I won a beauty contest and I was like, why can't we talk about that?
		This lady like beat out 10,000 other people to get this job because that doesn't sell anymore because there is no ESG funding in that story.
		There is no ideological way to virtue signal to people that you want to build your base.
		They're always looking to build this phantom audience.
		The people who are buying Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Editions don't care about Kim Petras, at least not if they're paying attention and definitely don't care about seeing Martha Stewart on the cover.
		But that's the hierarchy now.
		You have to be some type of oppressed group.
		You have to fit into an affinity group someplace for it to be relevant in the culture, the culture that they're pushing on us.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do people still read these things?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I was trying to explain that.
		I was like, you will not understand how important this was as a symbol in the 90s.
		Maybe not so much anymore.
		Can you get a tablet edition of it?
		I have no idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When you go to like a Walgreens or a Walmart or something, you see the magazine section.
		You'll notice when you're checking out at Walmart, the magazines don't have names anymore.
		It's a thing.
		So like, I see a magazine and it just said, it said Captain America all really big on it.
		And I'm like, what magazine is this?
		And then really, really tiny, it's Time Magazine.
		Because it doesn't matter anymore.
		They know nobody's buying their magazine.
		What they do know is, or maybe not Time, but like the logo is really small.
		People will see, oh, I like Captain America.
		I will buy a Captain America thing.
		And then they're buying the magazine.
		Because people aren't reading them anymore.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No, I mean, and there is a certain homogeneity of the message, like you get GQ with, you know, trans men on it, and, you know, what is it, health with fat ladies on it, and it's just, yeah, it's just the total homogenization of the message.
		It doesn't matter if you're picking up Rolling Stone, or if you're picking up GQ, or if you're picking up, you know, Women's Health or whatever, you're getting the same message.
		It is absolutely the same message.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I just, going back to whether or not this, uh, these people can, the left can survive in the future, I just don't see it.
		I just, I can't see this stuff making its way into the future because, for one, like I mentioned, it's self-destructive, but people are not, like people, so I'll put it this way.
		I made the joke on Twitter based off of John Dye's joke.
		I said, start complimenting liberal women by saying they look like Dylan Mulvaney or Lizzo.
		Everybody immediately understands what the joke is.
		While these liberal women will say Dylan Mulvaney is beautiful or Lizzo is beautiful, if you say You look just like them, they will get angry because inside they know they're lying and they don't find these people attractive.
		That's the kind of thing that says to me, this cannot survive, this cannot persist.
		The culture they have of lying about how they really feel about things, everyone on the surface might lie, but then they won't actually act upon those things and those things will not exist.
		They can go on, and on top of that too, if they keep coming out and saying people like Lizzo are beautiful, Like, this is gonna lead to a high mortality rate for a lot of people.
		Once again, it is resulting in the loss of life on the left.
		The right is more likely to be like, cut out the sugar, stop eating seed oils.
		How many people, how many times have you heard in the past week, stop eating seed oils?
		Like, come on, the right won't shut up about it.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That and the microplastics.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Microplastics.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But see, like, the right, whatever that is, is trying really hard to be healthy, to be responsible.
		I got glass bottle water here.
		We get it for all our guests.
		You do have plastic because we, you know, we're not that crazy.
		We just try to do better.
		But in the long run, the trajectory just seems very simple.
		The left starts to disappear and the right expands.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I get what you're saying, but like, historically, when we've seen these kind of ideologies try to push for influence and stuff, there's mass deaths.
		So you could be right.
		There could be a lot of people that end up dying.
		But that's also something that happens.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Mass death in which direction?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, well, if they get in control, if they get into positions of power and actually can make policy, then you're going to end up seeing a massive push for the reduction of carbon usage, and that means reduction of energy usage.
		They don't want to use petrochemicals to To fertilize any plants and stuff.
		So you're going to see famines.
		You're going to see death of not just conservative, or not just left, but conservatives too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why conservatives?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Because there, well, it would be a worldwide death because you'll see like, you'll see significant famine.
		It's not going to start with the U.S.
		It'll be in places where there's already on the edge of famine.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		American conservatives will be the last to go.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure, sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then what happens 20 years later?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Conservative United States.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, maybe.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So we can put it this way.
		Let's say There's two potential forks.
		The left sterilizing and aborting their kids, they're promoting unhealthy lifestyles, and promoting sterilization of individuals.
		Over a long enough period of time, they just won't exist.
		Let me finish.
		That's one potential.
		The other potential is they gain massive political power over the institutions, take over, and then start culling their opponents.
		Either way, the Great Famine, whatever ends up happening, as we often see with big communist regimes, the Soviet Union lasted about 69 years.
		And then what happens?
		It falls apart.
		If it does, conservatives, who tend to have their own sources of food to a greater degree than liberals, the pressure is still apparent.
		The left taking over means famine and death.
		But it's the people in the cities who are urban liberals who are the first to struggle and have no access to
		resources.
		Conservatives are going to be out in the middle of nowhere with chickens, goats, guns, and a garden.
		At the very least, not every single one will thrive, but many of them will be okay.
		Plus, all the preppers are right-leaning.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I don't disagree with the ultimate result.
		Like, I don't think that the left will ultimately win because I think that constantly it eats itself and there's all kinds of problems in the ideology.
		I just don't think that it's going to be any kind of smooth sailing to get there.
		Who said it was smooth sailing?
		I'm not saying that you did.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It could be the most catastrophic nightmare scenario we could imagine, but the end result is the right wins.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think likely, because I think that there's merit to your arguments about the way that people on the right live and the way that they organize their lives and stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm looking at it just like basic probabilities, right?
		You betting on a horse race, when you bet on the long shot horse 40 to 1, you win around 40 to 1.
		Imagine if they were like, the horse got a 40 to 1 chance to win and you bet 100 bucks, we'll give you $10 if you win.
		You'd be like, why would I do that?
		All likely I'm gonna lose, and even if I win I don't get anything.
		I'm looking at this right now, it's like, the probability exists that, sure, sure, when you're looking at any roll to die, we'll do that.
		It's possible that Snake Eyes comes up.
		It happens all the time.
		But it's just 1 in 30 rolls for it to happen, so it's unlikely.
		I think it is very unlikely in the long term the left succeeds.
		They may have short-term victories.
		They may get... They have many institutions, I believe, right now.
		But over a long enough period of time, it just fails because it's not physically possible.
		Even if we break it down to just simple economics.
		Centralized command economies cannot work.
		Right.
		Unless there is some AI takeover.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, that's... Is it also fair to point out that there's a difference between whether we're talking leftist tactics and the average neoliberal who will definitely support a lot of these policies, but are raising kids that are still going to end up in government, still are having traditional families.
		They're just not telling you that the things that we're talking about are a problem, right?
		They still support them.
		They just don't.
		It's NIMBYism.
		They just don't support it in their own backyard.
		They're fine with that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like those kids.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so the problem is that like, yeah, you could, in a lot of ways, the fringe types are going to find themselves eliminated from the gene pool with their decisions.
		But the Nancy Pelosi's and the rest of the politicians are still having kids.
		They're still expanding and creating their own political oligarchies in a lot of ways with their families.
		I don't see if necessarily it goes away that quickly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think the establishment people, Just do whatever they think earns them power.
		And if the left is removing themselves culturally and physically, then Democrats will gladly come out in support for cutting taxes for the rich, if the power structures support that idea.
		It doesn't matter.
		They're vanilla yogurt.
		You know what I mean?
		Whatever's happening in the world, they'll say, like, sure.
		I think it ultimately comes down to we have two big populist waves, and one is like, not like everybody on the right is healthy and fit, but more likely to be meritocratic, more likely to live in rural areas with better air, with access to at least some ability to get their own food.
		I mean, look.
		Right now, outside, I can see all the mulberries growing.
		And we have those mock strawberries.
		It's really funny.
		Have you ever seen the mock strawberries?
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I didn't even know about these things until I moved out here.
		They're these little tiny yellow flowers and they grow what looks like strawberries on them.
		And you can eat them.
		They're just flavorless.
		They're like pretty bland and no one really cares for them.
		But the chickens eat them.
		They gobble them up.
		So I'm like, I'm out here.
		We got chickens.
		We got eggs.
		We got berries.
		We got the pawpaw fruits that are like crazy.
		And we're not even trying to have that food.
		You live in a city There's no food outside.
		You go to a store, you get your food, or you don't.
		Out here, we have choices on walking outside and finding things to eat, if we so choose.
		Typically, we go to the grocery store.
		But putting it at that, if society collapsed right now, we out here in the middle of nowhere would have little bits of food.
		In the city, they would have none.
		That's enough.
		People out here are more likely to survive than people in cities.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Not to mention all the pressures that come from population density in those places when something bad happens.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I am wrong.
		They actually have a lot more food in the cities than we do out here.
		Each other.
unidentified		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		For real though.
		There's no people out here.
		So it's like, I gotta eat a deer.
		We got a lot of deer.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There's so many deer out here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Turkeys too.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		How's your car there, sir?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Uh, I still haven't gotten looked at, but it's just annoying.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		There's too many.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They're everywhere.
unidentified		It's wild.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You hit a deer?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I hit a deer, uh, going down the highway when it was foggy today.
unidentified		When?
unidentified		When?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Recently?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Uh, yeah, it was on, what, was it Monday?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Tuesday?
unidentified		Whoa!
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		It's just because it's foggy and there's literally so many of them.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		There were like, I think, ten.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We gotta eat them, Dan!
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Literally, I know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, I'm trying to eat the chickens, but my brother doesn't want to eat any of them.
		He's like, no, we can't.
		I'm like, come on.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Talking about the guys in the back of the... Well, the roosters for sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I've been trying to make rooster stew for like a year, but my brother's like, we can't eat them, man.
		Like, the foxes are eating them.
		Like, I think a couple of them died.
		But they're mostly all okay.
		King Roberto is still all right.
		He's in retirement.
		He's doing well.
		But I'm ready.
		We got too many.
		We got babies now.
		They make more of themselves.
		And then we give them scraps.
		We give them leftovers.
		They eat bugs.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's because they're not turning their kids into trans individuals.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They actually, you know... Well, actually, we mostly bred out of the chickens the broodiness.
		So, yeah, it's actually not super easy.
		The silkies will have babies, the fluffy chickens.
		They just, they desperately want to have babies.
		And then we have a coach in and she had two babies.
		And so she stands there with little babies.
		It's very cute, you know.
		And then one day we'll eat them.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because it's food.
		And I have no problems.
		I don't care.
		I'm like, yes, they're cute.
		Yes, I love my chickens.
		And they're also my food.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Chickens are, it's really hard to love chickens.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They're so stupid.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's why I love them!
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, like a dog, I get it.
		I get love in Bocas.
		I get love in a cat.
		Chickens, they're tough to love.
unidentified		They're funny.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Shame has spent two hours on our podcast talking about how dogs don't have the capacity to love.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's wrong.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's totally wrong.
		You see, here's the thing about Roberto Jr.
		He walks around minding his own business, and he's a stand-up guy.
		We had leftover sushi today, and we went out, the sashimi, and when we would try and give some to him, he would make sure the girls got it instead.
		He never, he always just like stands above it, he'll look down, and the girls will come and take it, and he'll just stand back up and he keeps watch.
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		What a gentleman.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He is, he watches guard all day, he's less concerned with having food for himself, he just wants to make sure his girls are alright.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's got a lot of girls.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		There's no chicken saying, where have all the good men gone?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, not really.
		He's a good dude.
		And see, that's the thing about chickens.
		Roosters will sacrifice themselves.
		Did you know this?
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		Did not know that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I am offended by people saying, you know, using the word chicken to imply cowardice, because a rooster will charge to its death if it means buying time for the hens to escape to safety.
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's braver than most humans.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Now somebody gets attacked on a subway and they just don't intervene.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Exactly!
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Because the rooster won't get, the chicken won't get sued, so they don't want to get involved.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is why I wanted to donate to Daniel Penny, because he exhibited the spirit of the noble rooster.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		By defending the people on the train.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		You should tell him that.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Somebody should be told.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the roost, like, when I was reading about chickens, I was like, wow, for real.
		And then we had a hawk attack, an eagle, or I think a hawk, I don't think we have eagles out here.
		A hawk swooped in trying to get our chickens, and then Roberto, his dad, yelled, runs to the door,
		because we had a caged up thing, and there was a door that could come out to the garden.
		It swoops into the garden.
		He runs out and stands guard in front of it, waiting for all the girls to go in,
		and then goes in last.
		I do, these guys, like, these are standup dudes, man.
		Let's jump to the story from the National Review and stop talking about chickens.
		This is from National Review.
		Lawyer for pregnant NYC nurse involved in bike feud vows to sue media for defamation.
		Can I give you money, sir?
		I know they have a GoFundMe for her, but I would provide some money for a lawsuit against the media for lying.
		The lawyer representing a pregnant New York physician Assistant, whose confrontation with a group of black men over a rented bike led to her suspension from the hospital, plans to sue media outlets that cast her as a racist thief.
		Sarah Jane Comrie got into an argument last week with a few young black men who claimed she was stealing a rental bike they paid for.
		Video went viral, this we know.
		She then released receipts.
		NBC News reviewed them too, so now they've been reviewed by everybody, and they've all confirmed it.
		Yep, that was her bike.
		They even gone so far as to say, you can't rent the same bike out in rapid succession, meaning the only way she had the receipt is if she was the one who was trying to get the bike in the first place.
		These dudes were trying to rob her, and the media attacked her.
		Ben Crump, you gotta sue- what's this guy's name?
		What's his lawyer's name?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Ben Crump?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, this lawyer for Sarah Comrie.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Justin Marino, you gotta sue Ben Crump.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		For defamation.
unidentified		Yeah, you should.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so they say a few minor press outlets and the black men involved in the altercation claimed that Comrie was fake crying and stole the bike.
		Multiple major press outlets also reported the video suggested she stole the bike.
		Some online figures disparaged Comrie as a Karen, a popular slang term for a white woman who feels entitled to special treatment.
		We are going to get an answer when we start filing defamation lawsuits, Moreno told Fox News' Bill Hemmer.
		She's been called a racist, a thief.
		There are reasons defamation laws exist, and we plan to pursue that.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Well, there was a lot of the headlines on Twitter.
		It said, appears to be stealing a bike.
		And it's like that word appears is literally prevent.
		It's like the shield preventing you from your lawsuit, right?
		So like I said, no matter how much you hate the journalists, you don't hate them enough.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You really should hate them more.
		You cannot hate them enough.
		I love the Michael Malice quote about, you know, the job will be done when the average journalist is looked at like a tobacco lobbyist.
		That's the respect they deserve.
		They're disgusting.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		They want the race war.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It can't come soon enough.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The thing is, I know I talked about this on Twitter the other day, there was this The NDAA of 2012, the Smith Modernization Act of 2012, that allowed the federal government to propagandize people.
		That coincides with the singularity of everybody having a cell phone in their pocket and having the internet connected to them.
		The media jumped at the chance.
		to feed the people the story that the government wanted and I can't like the reason that there's so many people that feel very homogenized one way is because the federal government has been shoving a narrative down our throats and it's it is reflected in the way the population looks at other people you look at the way the left looks at the right the whole like the What was it the the not the disposables the deplorables and all that stuff that goes along with it?
		They're just all the race.
		They're all racist.
		They're all this they're all that and it's a Narrative that is shoved down everyone's throat like we were talking earlier.
		All the magazines are the same It doesn't matter if it's GQ or if it's time or if it's Rolling Stone They're all shoving the same message down their throat.
		Teen Vogue the federal government.
		Exactly.
		Yeah giving young women communism since like back for that for years ago Exactly and the narrative that's coming out of the federal government is oh, there's all these it's the white nationalism White nationalism is the biggest problem in your your MAGA neighbor is probably a racist that hates you and etc etc All of that is a propagandic message that is coming straight out of the federal government Directed at the left because that's the quote-unquote nice
		Opinion and it's also the one that actually empowers the government. So of course the federal government is going to
		promote a narrative That promotes Pete that says people should endorse what the
		federal government wants, you know Higher taxes and more power and authority to the federal
		government So I think that the that has been a big part of the reason
		why?
		everyone seemed everyone on the left seems to have the same opinion and knows nothing about the right and
		They don't know anything about independence.
		They only know what the left has been told to think, essentially.
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		I think too, you know, no one wants to talk about it, especially on the right, but there is 100% a racial caste system that currently exists in this country.
		I mean, this woman was villainized.
		She was called a burglar, every name in the book, right?
		Because she's the caricature of a Karen, which is a slur for white women who dare to, you know, complain about the degeneracy that they see in their communities.
		Yeah.
		Suspended.
		say I don't want it to be this way and I think they tried to Daniel Penny her they really did
		they tried to throw her under the bus she was fired from her job or I think placed on yeah
		placed on leave from her job um and the media came after her and you know who was in docks
		the people who attacked her I mean it's just totally backwards
		The media is out there defending criminals, lawless gangs, just that are running the streets.
		And I think our law enforcement too, you're seeing selective enforcement here, right?
		You have people that are allowed to behave in a criminal manner, and then you have people who aren't.
		And often that is whether you are right or left leaning.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		What does it matter when the prosecutors, when the DAs won't prosecute anyways on a lot of these crimes?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Doesn't matter.
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		No, it's crazy.
		I mean, we used to arrest people for disturbing the peace and now if you walk around- No, we didn't!
		Now if you walk around D.C.
		Yeah, now if you walk around D.C.
		there are homeless people screaming and harassing you at almost every corner.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That is interesting.
		I was looking at these photos.
		We were in Atlantic City, and they have these photos all on the wall at this one, uh, this, we're at this place that had photos on the wall.
		And you could see everybody wearing a suit.
		Like, it's the boardwalk, 1920 or whatever, and all the men and women are dressed up.
		And I was like, they're wearing three-piece suits.
		The women are all wearing this crazy outfit.
		I'm like, that's kind of crazy.
		They would arrest you for disturbing the peace.
		Like, very rigid way of living.
		I'm not advocating for it, but I am saying we used to have a little bit more rules and maybe we need a little bit more rules.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's a slippery slope.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		You stop wearing the three-piece suit out in public and all of a sudden there's just crime going on in the streets.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You stop wearing the three-piece suit, next thing you know there's a dude taking a dump right there in the middle of the street.
unidentified		That's how they don't arrest these people.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Because they're mentally ill and They should be institutionalized.
		Yeah, the state can't, at least at this point, the state can't just pick them up.
		So I mean, there probably should be some kind of law that... Even that I have a problem with.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Because like, look, the second you throw somebody in the system, let's not pretend like any of these institutions, as soon as they get a hold, the system gets a hold of them.
		It's very hard to extricate yourself from that environment because they're so corrupt.
		So this came up a lot when they were talking about Britney Spears, because she's still acting absolutely ridiculous.
		I'm like, it's her right to do that.
		She's not harming anyone.
		She's not making good decisions.
		But it is her right as an American citizen to make those bad decisions for herself.
		But the people that are doing these things in the streets are doing things that are harming other people.
		But I still would err on the side of caution of just throwing them in asylums given that I don't know if that's the answer.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but hear me out.
		I have an idea.
		What if In San Francisco, if you are caught taking a dump outside, they put you on a boat and bring you to an island and then leave.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		An island, maybe in the Bay of San Francisco?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying any prosecution.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying if you are caught defecating in the streets, they put you on the boat, they bring you out, they drop you off on the island, you're free to go.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They haven't.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		There's no incarceration.
		You're not locked up.
		We're going to drop you off right here, and that's it.
		No more words.
		I'm not here to insult you.
		We'll be on our way.
		And if you build a boat and come back from the island, so be it.
		Otherwise, you know, you're not locking anybody up.
		You're not depriving them of anything.
		If they don't live anywhere, if they're homeless, with no jobs, and they're taking dumps on the street, why should- in all seriousness, the question is this.
		Why should we, as citizens and taxpayers of a city, tolerate people who aren't members of our community Destroying our community do we not have the right to be like we are going to place you outside You can always walk back in we're not like but if we catch you we're gonna remove you again Because I know people who've gotten banned from cities I've heard this they're like you're not welcome here and things like that But we don't do it for people taking dumps in the street in San Francisco.
		Yeah I assume they want that, though.
		Like, the government likes that it's happening.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		They could arrest them, though, and prosecute them, but they won't prosecute them, and that's the big problem here, right?
		What are they doing with Epstein's Island?
		They could use that one.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Alcatraz is in San Francisco.
		Alcatraz, just right out there.
		There's buildings!
		Just don't lock them up, but there's already buildings.
		They can go inside.
		They get shelter from the rain.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But if we give them like a big enough island with like food and animals and stuff It's like you have every chance to survive in in this and it's a mini exile.
		It's like mini It's like you can always come back just swim.
		I don't know whatever.
		It's up to you We're not we're not telling you what you can or can't do.
		We're just leaving you here.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The island of Catalina off of San Diego.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		There's a fantastic reality show pitch in there somewhere.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We placed a hundred homeless men on an island.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Look, if Milf Manor is a thing, then they could absolutely do this.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		For the number of homeless people that are in, I mean, just the greater San Francisco area, you'd need an island the size of, like, Oahu.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Like, it would have to be, like, a sizable island.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The question is, is it possible that what these people might need is actual hardship?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Probably?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		These are people who are in places where they have makeshift shelters, free everything.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		They get money from the state?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They get money, and if they don't, people are giving them food.
		They're getting food somewhere, somehow, so there's no requirements.
		It's enabling, it's not helping them.
		What if the one thing these people need is just to be in open land and say, figure it out.
		And then all of a sudden, they're like, hey, I'm not getting food anymore, I better find food.
		And then it starts Giving them responsibility and helping them, you know, survive.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm not so confident that would work, but I do think there is value to the idea that human beings are anti-fragile.
		So, we respond well to adversity.
		Like, literally our bodies need gravity.
		To have, for our bones to have the integrity to, to hold our body together.
		So like we need to go and exercise to keep our bodies in shape and we need to have that resistance.
		We need to strive for things to feel like we are accomplished in things.
		That's something that's important for human beings.
		So I don't know if I, I don't know that I agree that we should just go and toss them into the wilderness, but I do think that there is merit to the idea that human beings need adversity to flourish.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		The homeless problem is one of the hardest ones to discuss, right?
		Because it gets into the idea of body sovereignty.
		It gets into the idea of free will.
		But then you have to have these discussions where they say, oh, just throw them in a hotel.
		Just give them a hotel and everything will be fine.
		And the hotel is destroyed two days later.
		And it's one of the hardest ones to discuss because there really isn't a clean solution
		Yours might be the cleanest solution to that type of thing, but that's just for the ones that are actually doing something that's harming the quality of life of somebody else.
		What about the ones that aren't?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, what do you do?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Then what if we just say, like, we as a city reserve the right to remove people from our boundaries?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		They will never do it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think the people in these cities like it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, well, they... I think the people in these cities aren't... Most of the time they're not affected, right?
		Like, so... Right.
		If there's like a million people in a city and there's a thousand homeless people, that's a lot of homeless people, but it's not enough to have a negative effect on everybody's life every day enough where they're gonna be like, hey, this is a big deal.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		That's that's one of the things I said in LA is I said there I saw this guy in a he was clearly disabled.
		He's driving driving a little scooter thing.
		I couldn't tell if he's paraplegic quadriplegic, but he couldn't use the sidewalk.
		That was built for him in order to get down the street because there's literally so many encampments.
		So he's driving on the road and cars are like dodging him down 6th Street.
		It's just like, I thought you guys were about, you know, caring for people that are disabled and etc, but you're not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, here's another idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What if we take homeless people, like after a certain amount of infractions, maybe three, If they're sleeping outside, and it's like, hey, you can't sleep outside, this is your first warning, don't do it again, then we catch them, like, defecating, it's like, look, this is your second time, third time, you know it's gonna happen, third time, they get placed in government housing, where their food and shelter is taken care of, they will be clothed and fed, but they have to do work that we prescribe, and they're not allowed to leave.
unidentified		Three square meals a day, I've heard of a place like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How about if someone takes a crap on the street, we prosecute them and put them in jail?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You think so, right?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		What do you think?
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		I mean, absolutely, yeah.
		That would be ideal, but unfortunately that's not the way that our society or legal system is currently running, and I think people have come to accept this as the new normal.
		I mean, so many young people that I meet in DC and cities like Chicago or New York, they don't know any different.
		This is what they're used to.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That's so sad.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		At the Oscars this year, they just put up big Fake walls so that you couldn't see the homeless people while the celebrities were walking down.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That is the gross.
unidentified		That is the grossest thing.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		It's the most nimby thing in the world.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It is so gross.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		They just clear them out for a couple of days.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		They're like, you can come back after the event.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what I think benefited me greatly as a kid is that I went to Catholic school from kindergarten.
		I was homeschooled.
		Then I went to Catholic school from kindergarten until fifth grade.
		Started sixth grade at a public school.
		Those kids in public school did not know it was possible.
		The kids at the Catholic school, I felt, were very, like, hoity-toity and, like, very high-strung.
		But at the Catholic school, everything's more ordered.
		Yep.
		Clean.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I went to Catholic school from kindergarten until 7th grade.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, 7th grade.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So there's a lot of people who don't know that things can be really, really good.
		They've never experienced it.
		They don't know it's possible.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, if you're born into that environment, you just adjust to it accordingly, and then you never really look outside of that.
		They talk about a lot of people who grew up in inner cities who never travel more than a couple blocks from their house.
		They've never seen any, and that's something you could get away with in a car, right?
		They could drive.
		To get there, but they don't drive.
		You know, they've never owned a car.
		They've never been someplace other that shows them that there's more things that are possible.
		That's kind of where in a lot of ways, I feel like a lot of that, the, um, how we talk about going away to college, like that's what that's become for a lot of, for a lot of kids.
		Like they get a scholarship because they want to go away and experience something different.
		Of course, colleges now are not exactly what they used to be, but a lot of people just, they never learned that there is a world outside of what they're used to.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then what ends up happening is they keep voting for what they think is the only thing.
		It's the funniest thing to me.
		We had Lance on and the conversation around Daniel Penney and I don't know if it was him, but it might have been AOC saying something like, You know, the right keeps blaming mental illness for all these things, and the Republicans defund these mental illness, blah, blah, blah, and I'm like, what Republican is running New York City?
		This is run by, like, all of these issues, Black Lives Matter, police, it's all Democrat cities.
		It's the craziest thing to me.
		When they're like, we want to defund the police, I'm like, yeah, okay, y'all are in a Democrat city.
		Defunding the police does nothing to my sheriff's department, I don't care.
		The left is complaining about What they voted for.
		It is the craziest thing.
		They're in Democrat-run cities complaining about problems that are born of their policies.
		It's like watching a toilet get flushed.
		And I'm just sitting there being like, there it goes.
		It's just spinning around and around and around.
		They keep doing the same thing and then complaining about it.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		I remember arguing with kids in L.A.
		that were saying like, oh, it's all these Republican senators, these Republican congressmen.
		There's numerous senators.
		Do you understand how many there are?
		Like, you don't have any idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Dude, you're in L.A.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're in California.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The senator can't change what's happening in LA.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's your city government.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		People are so ignorant about what they are upset about.
		It's they have no idea that the most effective things that they can do are things that they do locally.
		You know, the things that are going to have the biggest impact on their daily lives are going to be things that they, you know, can do locally.
		Joe Biden is not going to be able to do anything and isn't interested in doing anything to make your life better.
		Like, not at all.
		And I really wish that you could get people to, like, not just hear that, but actually internalize it and be like, alright, if I want my life to be better, I have to do things, whether it be acting locally or maybe it's It's taking some agency in your own life and going out and trying to do some stuff.
		There's a lot of people that have rough lives, but they also get so wrapped up in the fact that their life is rough that they feel like they can't do anything about it.
		So if you feel like you have no agency and you can't do anything, you're not going to try.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		In Minnesota, post-George Floyd, in Uptown, you know, a lot of these places were the same ones that held events, advertising, defund the police, you know, which leads to a lot of lawlessness in the city.
		And what would happen is graffiti would be put up on all of the buildings, you know, all of the shops in Uptown.
		And then the city would come through and they would say, you need to clean this up in the next seven days, or we're going to clean it up for you and we're going to charge you $700, $800 to do it.
		And of course, because, you know, the cops have pulled back because of all of the negative press that's going on at that time, graffiti goes up, they get hit with a $700 fine when somebody has to come clean it up for them, and it never seems to make it to their brain.
		that you voted for the policies that are enabling you going out of business.
		They don't understand that because I don't know if they think that deeply beyond just
		either whatever the wedge issue is and whatever the emotion that that very skilled politician
		has done has been able to do and making you feel angry about it. And that's a problem.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to jump to this story, give you guys some optimism here.
		Cyclists no-show post-race podium after biological male finishes first in female race.
		That's the story.
		Take a look at this picture.
		The women refuse to show up.
		So I think this is the start of something good.
		There's another story that we have.
		I think it's, maybe it's this one.
		Losing to a trans rider hurts on a million different levels.
		24-year-old cyclist abandons Olympic dream after sickening losses to biological male and protests from Antifa gun club.
		Not only that, but apparently this biological male who won physically attacked Oh, yes.
		This is wild.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		This is in, yes, this is wild.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This video was posted on April 26.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		It's from Cyclocross, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Cyclocross, and the biological male, Riley Gaines, tweeting it,
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		physically attacks and tries to knock down a woman, and then that woman never races again.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Crazy.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		See, they find all the ways to get the performance-enhancing drugs out of them, so now they just have to go and compete against women.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, take a look.
		I mean, this is good for these women.
		I've been saying this.
		Stop showing up.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		That's a dude.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is a biological male who won the women's race, and the other women are like, the females are like, no, we're not gonna go on the podium.
		It's also like, remember when They had, it was Leah Thomas won, but then the other one refused to stand next to Leah Thomas.
		I think that might have been Riley Gaines, right?
		Not entirely sure.
		So this is the kind of stuff that I'm talking about with I don't think the left ideology can actually survive.
		It's like saying you can build a building.
		Imagine these people tried building a building.
		And just imagine what happens.
		I think everyone goes, oh, okay, now I understand.
		Like, it's not gonna stand up, it's gonna be crooked, it's gonna be slumping over on one side.
		And it may stand for a little bit.
		They may have guards surrounding it with guns.
		They may not let you come in.
		They may, in fact, kick you out of your own building nearby.
		But sooner or later, that thing comes crashing down.
		Because there's a logic and order to building a system.
		They can come out and claim, you know what's happening?
		These people have started building a structure, and then all of their friends are going, your structure is so amazing.
		Who needs I-beams?
		We don't need support columns.
		What are you talking about?
		And then they're very happily toting along, building this thing, and then one day it just crumbles, because no one actually believes it.
		They're just trying to keep their head down.
		Nobody wants- it's the emperor having no clothes.
		Nobody wants to be the person to tell the king he's naked.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what happened with Chernobyl.
		No one wanted to say, hey, there's a problem.
		They were afraid to tell people, and because of that, that made the meltdown, you know, so much worse.
		If I understand correctly, the meltdown could have been prevented if they would have actually had the balls to tell the people in charge that there was a problem,
		but they were afraid to tell that there's a problem with the with the nuclear reactor.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Nobody wanted to be that person who was removed from the photograph with Stalin. Exactly. I don't know what that guy,
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		you know guys, what was his deal? You know that meme though, right? Yeah,
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I don't know what the... I don't know the particular story behind it.
		How did he do that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's impressive.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Multiple people.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That happened to multiple people over the course of time.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he would deperson them and have his artists, like the Soviet artists, just go through and remove them and repaint the picture just like we do now with like a smartphone and like in like Photoshop, etc.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Just literally do Photoshop in 1930s.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that's that's actually impressive.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, essentially, that's what canceling is now.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		It's the same thing.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's the same idea.
		It's it's a little bit different than, you know, actually killing people.
		But like when you cancel someone, you remove them from polite society and they're, you know.
		They're pariahs and people don't want to associate with them and so it's the same thing but in a digital world as opposed to just smoking them.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		So you had like an actual clone stamp tool in the 1930s to just remove people from the portrait.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That's amazing.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		It's really impressive.
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		I mean to your cancel culture point though, I feel like more Things like this happening is effectively, you know, canceling this trans ideology that's running rampant across our country.
		And I think as conservatives, for a long time, we've been very scared to kind of embrace cancel culture.
		But I honestly think, you know, there are some things that we should cancel.
		There are some things that are not conducive to like, good society. This cancel culture was always the left
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		digging up a tweet from someone from 10 years ago and getting them fired. Right. And so then we saw
		stuff like Mike Cernovich pulling up jokes from James Gunn and then James Gunn got suspended.
		He got fired, be hired back.
		That's it's not cancel culture to be like, hey, we don't want women's sports to be dissolved.
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		Right. But I do think, you know, we've bought into this fallacy of like the marketplace of ideas and
		every opinion should be heard. And it's a great opinion.
		Opinions like this, you know, are damaging to people.
		It should not be heard.
		It shouldn't be told to your children or encouraged in schools or anything like that.
		So, you know, I think there always will be some orthodoxy that's enshrined in the public square.
		There is no such thing as like Live and let live.
		Do what you want.
		Something is going to dominate the culture so we need to make sure that what's dominating the culture is something that's good and going to encourage our society to, you know, just like do well and to help people and let people live freely and great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I agree to a great deal.
		I'll push more on the freedom of speech component of this, in that we don't want these people secretly indoctrinating kids.
		We want them to come out, show the book, and then we can be like, and here's why they're wrong.
		Because otherwise they'll find creepy ways to do it.
		But I suppose the fair point is, it's better that you remove most overt ways of doing it, and then they're probably in the shadows even right now, you know what I mean?
		So I think my realization came when Partly from a lot of this, that it doesn't matter what your principles are, it matters where your moral line is.
		So the left argues they think parents have the absolute right to determine what's best for their kids.
		But then they don't care that schools are saying, don't tell your parents.
		The right says, parents have the absolute right to determine what's right for their kids, but the government should intervene if a parent tries to give their kid a sex change.
		Both groups will argue the same sentence, but then perform it in different ways.
		And it's similarly to how Scott Adams says, we're all watching one screen but seeing two different movies.
		If that's the case, you have to realize I mean, we can't even agree on what a woman is.
		I mean, I think you said, if you have no culture, you have no country.
		And that's completely true.
		Right now in the United States, there's no cohesive culture.
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we can't even agree on what a woman is.
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		So yeah, no, there's no founding value system that everybody prescribes to.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But this is what we have to realize.
		We can agree on what a woman is.
		It's just that there is a psychotic death cult that can't.
		But why are we acting like we're on par with them?
		Imagine you were the CEO of a large media company and the guy who runs the hot dog stand downstairs starts demanding you debate him because he's a CEO as well.
		It's like, well, come on, look, man.
		I'm managing 3,000 employees in this building.
		We're managing assets in the billions of dollars.
		You have a small business, which I respect, but you are not in a position where you're going to tell me.
		So this guy running the hot dog stand is like, you're completely wrong about interest rates.
		Let me tell you.
		And it's like, look, man.
		Your ideas about what an interest rate is?
		He comes out and he says, interest rates are not mathematical, they're alphabetical.
		And you're like, okay, that makes literally no sense.
		Well, I insist it's true.
		Then a bunch of his buddies show up and demand you do a TV interview debate.
		No, no, no, no, no, no, come on.
		If somebody wants to come out and argue they don't know what a woman is or make some nonsensical claim, we should just be like, you are a fringe group of people.
		This is the argument they make.
		Don't platform these people.
		It's like, I'll say the same thing back.
		Why should we entertain their opinion?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's tough because I was, again, I was just having the same kind of conversation today with a friend and he's like, you know, he had an issue with me complaining about communists, which surprise, surprise, I'm complaining about communists.
unidentified		Weird.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But he had an issue and he's like, well, you know, blah, blah, blah, this person, that person.
		He starts talking about the right having the far, the extremist far right having access to power.
		And I'm like, What are you talking about, the extremists far right?
		And then he's like, well, Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones, and it's like, these people are not extremists far right.
		He's associating them with Nazis, and he's saying, well, you know, that Nazi kid had dinner with Trump, and it's like, well, Trump's kind of a moron for doing that.
		That was a terrible idea.
		Milo's the guy that made it happen, but like, The idea that the far-right actual Nazis have influence in the culture is, to me, ridiculous.
		Like, everybody has their spider-sense super tuned in for Nazis, but no one does for communists.
		But the way he sees it is like, the communists are all fringe and they have no power.
		I'm like, AOC and Bernie and, you know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's one simple way to test whether or not the right is the cult or the left is the cult.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But this speaks to the one movie, two different screens.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, so I thought about this a long time ago.
		I'm like, you know, these people keep saying Trump supporters are all in a cult, and I'm like, well, I want to make sure there's a check on my reality.
		I don't want to be trapped in a bubble.
		Am I wrong on this one?
		Let me ask you, Kingsley, do you think that you can be a conservative and pro-choice?
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Most conservatives I ask say that.
		They say that that's like the hardest line on what makes a conservative.
		The left literally argues with me, calling me far-right, despite my opinion on abortion being traditional Democrat pro-choice.
		Yet conservatives will be like, oh, that's the liberal position.
		We'll have a conversation, we'll disagree.
		Seamus and I will make jokes all day, and then disagree on very strong issues.
		If you understand the differences between a conservative and me, you're not in a cult.
		But the left can't tell the difference.
		At all.
		They see everybody in this room and they see, far right, it's the meme.
		Where they're in the communist tanky corner and everyone else is a Nazi.
		And it's like, if you can't see the difference in politics between Brett, me, Luke...
		I mean, Luke and Seamus' politics are also very, very different.
		And we come on this show, we have eclectic voices, and then we talk about it.
		They can't tell the difference.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I spent half the day with, like, my mentions full of, like, Cowboy Comehunter fans complaining, because I made a joke about, you know, About him.
		And the other time was arguing with a left-leaning guy about me associating with far-right people, while the far-right, you know, the Nazis are in my mentions calling me a Jew-lover.
		Literally just like, you're a Jew!
		And I'm like, I don't have a problem with Jews, but I'm not Jewish!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I love that.
		The person who kept super chatting being like, When will you answer?
		Someone did a review and found that like 25% of all the guests on this show are Jewish or something like that.
		I don't even know if that's true.
		And they're just like, can you explain this?
		And I'm like, what?
		What do you mean explain it?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Was there a number that was the correct number?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Look, look, if you think there are too many Jewish people on Timcast IRL, up your game, do something worthwhile and get on Timcast IRL.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Stop complaining that there are people that are doing things that are Jewish on IRL.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did anyone do a breakdown on how many Christians come on this show?
		I am not a Christian, but we have a very, very heavy, disproportionate amount of Christians who come on this show.
		And Seamus literally talking about, like, sin and God and faith and stuff regularly.
		But nobody comes on and be like, how come you have so much God love on your show, Tim?
		And then Ian is some kind of, like, he was, was Ian atheist?
		I don't know. He's not anymore. He talks a lot about God and the importance of it, but he's certainly not very
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		spiritual now.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		He's elevated to a higher being now.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yes, he has!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, I mean that that's what happened. I mean, uh, the reason he's not here is because he ascended to a higher
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		plane of existence. He's actually above us right now.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we're hoping he comes back. I hope so. Part of the reason for that is it really is true that I think if you
		have anything
		you know right of you know, what is now far left in society, which is now,
		you know, the Overton window has shifted so far that what is normal, if you're anything to the right of that,
		you're challenged on a daily basis with your media, with the news that you, you know, that you choose to partake in.
		You're constantly having your viewpoints checked because there are people that you're going to be watching, whether it's on social media, whether it's the news, if you're in an airport and you're watching CNN, whether it's the television and the movies you watch, which are all at the very least liberal orthodoxy, if not far left, going further left, you're constantly being challenged.
		Therefore, you're forced to, on a regular basis, see the ideas of people you may disagree with.
		And that kind of hardens your core to be able to take those concepts,
		internalize them, understand what they're saying, still understand what your position on it is,
		and either make your argument back or just accept that that person believes
		what they want to believe, and that's fine.
		The people that fall into the dogma that is the left now, they get news that reaffirms their beliefs.
		They get movies that reaffirm their beliefs.
		They get music that reaffirm their beliefs.
		They aren't really ever exposed to viewpoints that they don't agree with.
		And when they do, it's on social media and it becomes a re-fest where they argue with you and then they block you or they turn off their mentions so that you can't respond.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		They get so destroyed in the chat they have to go to the hospital.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's another great point that I didn't bring up to my friend that I should have brought up.
unidentified		That kid went to the hospital, dude.
unidentified		Yeah, that's insane.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you see, you saw that, Kingsley?
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's insane.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was Nuancebro, owned a leftist so hard, he checked himself into the emergency room, to the ICU.
		And they gave him, like, an IV for fluids and stuff.
		What?
		I thought it was fake.
		I thought he was joking.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		He should have never told that, because now Nuancebro can, like, wear that badge forever.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, true.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		There will be merch for that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm worried now about having Nuance broke him in because he might put us all in the hospital.
unidentified		He could seriously hurt us with his mad debate skills.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		He should sell hospital wristbands.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure someone can tell him.
		Go tell him.
		I survived a debate with Nuance Bro.
		If you debate Nuance Bro, you get a hospital wristband that says, I survived a debate with Nuance Bro.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That is actually a really good merch idea.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That would be great.
		Do it, Nuance Bro.
		Come on, man.
unidentified		You gotta do that, man.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		That's good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But it's kind of crazy that he didn't actually do that much.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He just told the kid he was wrong.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, he was so...
		so dramatically wrong and I like it kind of makes sense why like if you think that's going on which I can't imagine well for those that don't know the context the kid said that 30% of black people were being killed every year by police and he was like they would be gone in three years be no black people left and it's like that's crazy yeah and it's because of you know what it's because of the the narrative that comes out that again is constantly shoved down people's throat from the left and you people like Like even LeBron James, I brought up the other night, he's talking about, you know, we're hunted in the streets.
		It's like that is so far from true and it's so hyperbolic that people, it's no wonder why there are like people that are low information that are like, man, I'm going to die.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		The streets of Calabasas.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If it was true that police were killing 30% of black people every year, this show would be called Antifa IRL and I would be one of the most prolific organizers resisting all of that and fighting to stop it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's incredibly ridiculous.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But anyway, so that's the context.
		And this kid ends up checking himself into a hospital.
		It's crazy because he learned the world wasn't as bad as he thought.
		He even says, is 15 to 20% fair.
		And they're like, what?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Millions of people is not fair.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's just not fair.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Millions of people being shot and killed in the streets every year.
		And it's like not happening.
		But he genuinely thought that this is what happens when these kids grow up in the internet cult.
		Then they think this stuff.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And when you look this stuff up, even if you were to go to look up the statistics, you have to go four to five pages down before you actually get to any type of demographic data.
		And before that, all you get is New York Times articles, Los Angeles Times articles, and they're all over the top.
		And they all have the headlines that we all know that are designed to... You don't even get past that.
		You get to the headline and you get scared and you get angry and you don't actually look for further information.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		From now on, I'm going to say, oh, that was a deepfake.
		So now if they're like, didn't you see that video of that guy?
		And I'll be like, which one?
		And I'll be like, that right wing guy, that was a deepfake.
		You didn't see that?
		That was fake.
		That's just, it's not real anymore.
		Nothing's real.
		You're wrong.
		Deepfakes are- My sources are real videos.
		Your sources are all deepfakes.
		Next question.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that's such a great technique.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, cause you know, I'm thinking, I'm like, in 10 years, we won't be having these conversations because nothing will be real anymore.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it'll be AI doing it for us.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, it's not that.
		It's that you won't be able to know.
		We're very, very close to the point where you just can't know.
		I mean, do you guys see that video, that photograph of Trump running through DC with Sonic the Hedgehog?
		Like, was that real?
		I can't tell.
		I can't tell.
		No, that was obviously, obviously fake.
		But, uh, cause Sonic didn't look real.
		His hair was off.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		But, um... They should have used the Sonic from the original design from the movie that everybody hated so much.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I just asked Midjourney to do it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I can't tell it to make it.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Like, use BadSonic.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Use BadSonic with the weird teeth?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Don't look up BadSonic either on the internet.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That's a whole other thing that you don't want to involve.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, but my point is, right now, we still have the ability to know what's true and what's not, but it's getting harder, and we are standing on the edge about to experience something crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In a few years, I think even next year, when there's 8,000 videos of Trump doing weird things and you can't tell if it's real or fake.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's gonna be hard.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Actually, let me pull this story up and I'll tell you about what's going on right here.
		Let me jump to TimCast.com real quick.
		And I'll explain what I'm talking about.
		We have this story.
		Well, right here.
		Take a look at this.
		From TimCast.com, feminine hygiene dispenser vandalized an Oregon high school boy's restroom.
		One parent told TimCast News, putting feminine products in the boys' bathrooms is just asking for the types of incidents to happen.
		So we see this photo.
		Let me pull up the tweet.
		And our journalistic team reached out to the school and two parents, got confirmation, got an email saying this did happen.
		I saw this photo and said, this is a fake photo.
		I do not believe this is a real photo.
		It does not look real.
		Why is it grainy?
		Why is the lighting so strange?
		It looks like a bad Photoshop, and it's intentionally low-res so that you can't see where the seams are.
		Apparently it's real.
		We actually have, I think, two different confirmations that this did happen.
		We're wondering, though, if someone faked the photograph to go along with the story that originated from an email.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Who took the photo?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Our team is working on it right now, actually.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because I asked them, I was like, do we know for sure?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		There's just a teacher there with like an iPhone 4.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so what we're saying is, we do have an email from the school where they said this happened.
		And it's been happening quite a bit.
		But, I don't know if I believe this photo is real.
		Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.
		That is the issue.
		First, I'll say this.
		According to the email that we got, and speaking to one of the parents, it looks like high school boys are ripping down feminine hygiene products because they're putting them in the boys' room for some reason.
		So, that's kind of funny and based.
		But, um, you know, kids shouldn't vandalize things.
		I'll just put it at that.
		The kids are clearly protesting, and this is their right.
		And, uh, but I don't think it's real.
		Like, this photograph doesn't seem real to me.
		At the very least, I'm not sure if It's real or fake, and that's all that matters.
		Come next year, there will be photos of Donald Trump, and you're gonna be like... Reasonable doubt.
		I have no idea.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's enough doubt there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And there's no way to confirm it, and there's no way to debunk it.
		These AI checking things, I just don't know that they can actually do it.
		There was one post I saw where a person said he got accused of using ChatGPT to write a college essay, And he was he was he was posting about how he did not and the teacher used a program that claimed a paragraph was AI generated and when he said it's not they said we'll change it then and no matter what he did it kept claiming it was AI generated.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		So what he'll have to like write it right in front of them so they can actually physically see him write it?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But more importantly You're gonna see a video of Trump and you're gonna be like, does that really happen?
		And the fact that you don't know and have doubt means we won't be able to have a conversation about it.
		I'll be like, I wonder if it happened, I have no idea.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Maybe what happens is Trump actually did a bunch of bad stuff and he waits until then and he's got plausible deniability and he releases them all at that time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You already had that story that one of the Krasensteins is on video saying he's getting paid to troll, basically.
		And then he said, he came out and said that was a clip from a skit that we were doing, like a bit.
		And it's taken out of context.
		Is it?
		He could be lying.
		He could be telling the truth.
		But I don't know why he would do a hidden camera bit like that.
		That's kind of weird.
		Like, why would you do that?
		The fact that you can already say things like this and people are going to believe it means we've been in the post-truth era for a long time.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I mean, think about how long ago it was when we had the very fine people thing and nobody just did any research further.
		Nobody said, hmm, this clip is cut at a very interesting place.
		They've had ways of doing this in the media for a long, long time.
		It's just going to be a lot easier for people to fake it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's going to be pictures of Biden doing weird stuff.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		There already are.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, like, there's plenty of super cuts on the internet if you want to see Biden doing weird stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, like, it's going to get heavy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's going to get heavy.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So that's one of my worries is that the government says, look, we can't People can't discern between what is true and what is not anymore so we can't have elections or we can't you know like that's something that I think is within the cards like the government deciding we can't have like people can't make
		The distinction between what is real and what isn't.
		Governments can't do it anymore because AI generates things that AI can't detect or whatever.
		So that means that we can't allow people to make decisions for themselves.
		And I don't know that that is something that would happen, but if I can conceive of the argument, some power-hungry scumbag can definitely conceive of the argument.
		So I don't again I don't know that it'll happen but it's it's something that I wouldn't be shocked in any way if there was some you know somebody saying look we can't trust our eyes and our ears so you got to let the government take care of you because you know They'll bring back that disinformation governance board.
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the Nina Danglitz position?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		As long as she debunks all the misinformation and disinformation by singing musicals.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Then I'm okay with it.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Wait, didn't they put Kamala Harris in charge of the... Isn't she the AI czar?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, when she's not literally opening the door for people to come into the country from Mexico.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		She was the border czar and the AI czar.
		We are screwed.
		The AI czar?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'd rather have the AI be in charge.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		She knows something about being artificial.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It won't be quite as annoying when it laughs at you.
		Though I will say one of my favorite things recently is that there's this guy who makes AI videos of the last three presidents singing together.
		Those are great.
		It's Biden, Trump and Obama singing like rap songs together.
		It's fantastic.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, have you ever, have you ever listened to the Donald Trump sings?
unidentified		Yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Maestro Zekos on YouTube.
		Oh, he's fantastic.
		His cover, Donald Trump singing blinded by the blinding lights.
		Fantastic.
		Yeah, that's really good. Let's let's pull that it's cut together with like actual like it's not AI
		It's literally he's taken from interview pieces of dreams.
		It must take thousands of hours to make that here you go Let's play a second of it
unidentified		Amazing Baby
		Half that guy's channel is just those videos I know, it's amazing.
		They're good.
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		It has to take so long to do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But you mean to tell me that that's not actually Donald Trump singing?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		The one of him singing See You Again by Wiz Khalifa is incredible.
		It's like an AI-generated version of it.
		It's amazing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, I think Donald Trump sings Havana.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's his most popular one.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		There's a Taylor Swift one that's also really good.
unidentified		🎵Manners of Lana, oh now🎵 🎵Do the work that I'm here doin'🎵
		🎵When he came in, there was a vision of girls I could go with🎵
		🎵But I gave it to him for a reason, that's on my end🎵 🎵And I said he got my glow in him🎵
		🎵He got me feelin' like, ooooooh🎵 🎵Do the work that I'm here doin'🎵
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I think he watches these at like two in the morning.
unidentified		Maybe.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		People Google themselves.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I bet you he Googles himself.
unidentified		I had to go.
		Oh na na na na na.
		Havana, oh na na.
		Half of my heart is in Havana.
		Oh na na.
		She's bringing back to South Atlanta.
		Na na na.
		All of my heart is in Havana.
		There's something about his manners.
		Havana, oh na na.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Brilliant.
		I think his latest stuff is, like, Joe Biden.
		Joe Biden sings in Chinese.
		And he had, uh, what is this?
		Ella Baila Sola covered by Trump.
		See, the thing is, like, during the The Last of Us presidential version, his videos were getting way more hits when Trump was president.
		And now he's got like this Biden sings in Chinese, 23,000 views.
unidentified		This is like really hard to make too.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Pulling up every clip of Trump saying a word.
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		Such a pain.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's like, people are like, the reason it's not popular now, like, it was a lot more funny when I had money and I could afford to put gas in my car.
		It's not quite as funny this time.
		I can't afford food now, so.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So here's the problem, though.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maestro Zekos did all this work to make these songs, and we're about a year away from you opening up your phone, pressing the voice to text and saying, Render me a video of Donald Trump singing Blinding Lights and then it will just be like rendering and then boom, and it'll sound perfect.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I've like, I admit to being in, like I've been watching a lot of like the, like there's a bunch of Kanye and Britney Spears AI songs where it's just them performing songs that they never sang.
		And it's like at a certain point where we're just there now, right?
		Like you don't even have to actually make the music.
		You can just have somebody.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That Weekend and Drake song.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that what you're talking about?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They made an AI version of it and it went viral.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like music is done.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, pretty much.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I suppose if you own the rights, you're going to be good for a long time.
		Because like, Phil, all you got to do is tell it, write me some new All That Remains, and then it will.
		And then you have it render a hundred different songs.
		Then you go through them and say, these five are good.
		That's the new album.
		And then you're done in ten minutes.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I assume that I would Actually, I'm not sure that I would actually even bother going to track it if AI can do it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, you said the AI can do it.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Well, there was actually AI rappers that companies were creating and giving record deals.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I remember that.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		FN Mecca was just created by a company, right?
		And they have AI activists now, like AI social media influencers that have actual causes that they champion because they're created by corporations.
		They're just an avatar.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You didn't know that, Brett?
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		AOC?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Not even real?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not even real.
		Greta Thunberg?
		AI.
		That's right.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That makes perfect sense.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, for all we know, have you ever seen him in real life?
		Alex Stein?
		I can tell you, he's not real.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		That's how they did the video of Alex Stein and AOC together, because they're both computer generated.
		So whenever we've had Alex on the stage, people don't realize it's some guy in a green screen suit.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I would believe that AOC is actually created in a lab.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		She's like, she's the perfect like antithesis of Donald Trump.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We should actually do that bit with with Alex Stein.
		It's like you see him on stage, but then we do a separate video where it's just a guy in a green suit dancing and rapping.
		It's not, there's no Alex Stein.
		He's AI generated.
		Ask Ian.
		Ian is real though.
		Ian is not real.
		His brain may be attached to the computer, but the rest of him is attached to something.
unidentified		Balloons?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Balloons?
		You know, the weirdest thing about the AI is, um, I was talking to my brother, he said, he's like, did you ever put nothing into mid-journey?
		And I said, yeah, and it made a bunch of hot air balloons.
		And he was like, yeah, that's what it does.
		For real.
		I guess.
		For whatever reason if you go to mid journey, and you give it nothing.
		I did a blank space.
		I wrote null in brackets, and then I did one with like a period or a single letter or whatever.
		It just makes a bunch of hot-air balloons.
unidentified		Hmm.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, weird pictures.
		Just mostly hot-air balloons.
		I wonder if it's because there's a ton of hot-air balloon pictures on the internet with no caption.
unidentified		Hmm.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That wouldn't just be programmed in there from the... I don't know.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		...stock image?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what I was... I was wondering, too, though, about, like, I wonder if you can, um, if you can code inject into the AIs.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Code inject?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah so like they've done prompt injections and I think the answer is probably a simple no.
		Most people probably understand this already.
		So like SQL injection is a rudimentary way to break into websites because what you need to imagine is when you're at a website and it says username and password and you see those two boxes, imagine behind the websites Front door or whatever wall all that code is there and the code stops and the username is blank and it keeps going and the username stops and it's blank and you putting in those words are adding to the code of the website.
		So if you insert into those boxes more strings of code you can change what the whole program does so people could break into websites by instead of putting a username they would literally write code.
		So I'm wondering if you can write code into some of these AIs and then have it do things they wouldn't normally do.
		I guess you'd have to know what their code is first and know what their, like, you'd have to be able to see the source code first to know how to do it.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, what do we accept as input?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No idea, but how about we go to Super Chats!
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		Man, I gotta tell you, I did not, uh, it's not easy doing the coffee thing.
		We are running behind.
		We produce coffee, we sell it out, we gotta throw money in, it takes a long time, and then, so, like, we've invested heavily, uh, heavily into this coffee shop.
		A lot.
		But, uh, it's, it's, it's turning around, and we think, we're trying to find that sales equilibrium where we can see where our balance point is at and then grow slowly, but we're growing so rapidly, it's costing us a lot of money.
		But, uh, thank you for your support.
		Let's, uh, smash that like button, we'll read some of your superchats.
		And NotYourBuddyGuy says, very excited for Monday's guest, and despite having opposing views on certain topics, such as country polling integrity, with you, I truly appreciate supporting you and your team over at TimCats.
		Thank you very much, good sir.
		Uh, who do we have on Monday, Phil?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Dan Bongino.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I believe Dan Bongino's gonna be So, uh, we normally don't like announcing because then if they cancel, everyone gets let down, but, uh, very excited.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		At first I was like, do you really want me to say it?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, cause like, especially with someone like Dan, if he gets busy and then he's like, Hey, look, something came up, people can be like, oh, you know, and then it's just like, well, you know, sometimes people don't make it.
		People don't make it.
		You know, we were supposed to have Kelly Cadigan on a Culture War podcast this morning, but that didn't happen due to me posting tweets about my opinions on fact-based issues.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, thanks for the day off, man.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Actually, I said that.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I was like, what if Tim just woke up and he's like, I don't really feel like doing it today.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But it's like, it's not even that offensive.
		It's crazy.
		I'm like, this is the centrist take on this.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's wild.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, whatever.
		Let's read some more Super Chats.
		All right.
		Where are we at?
		S.A.
		Federale says, man, I've never laughed this hard alone until the Don Jr.
		show and Colby After Show.
		Juxtapose that with S. Lib's primal screaming with their miserable friends.
		White pills as far as the eye can see.
		I do think my favorite moment of the show we did with Don Jr.
		is that when Seamus started promoting his show, Don Jr.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		is just like, I am a Trump!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, it was almost like a, how dare you try to out-promote with me in the room.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He was trying to be polite.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I would have figured that he knew that, like, that's the time to go ahead and plug your stuff.
		And like, Seamus is like, Seamus starts and he's just like, wait a minute here.
		It's like, well, you had your chance, man.
unidentified		No one is stopping you.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Hannah Clare was promoting Tim Cassidy.
		It's like, wait a minute.
		I am a Trump.
unidentified		That was good.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I am bred for this self-promotion.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I also liked when he was talking about tweeting.
		And then he was like, he would get a call from the White House after tweeting something, and he's like, I learned it from you, Dad!
		That was so good.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I learned it from you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, we'll grab some more.
		Yeah, it was fun.
		But I recommend, if you guys haven't, checking out the Members Only show from yesterday.
		With Colby Covington, because I go into great detail as to why we had no Culture War show this morning, and it is very informative.
		I think you should check it out.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And we were hilarious.
unidentified		I guess.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I was just, like, I thought I was very academic the whole time.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I thought it was hilarious.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Although I did say some things that were abrasive, with the intention to explain why I don't say those things.
		But let's read some more.
		J. Marie says, 1984 teaches us that it doesn't matter what the truth is, what matters is what's on the public record.
		Marie Thesis Podcast.
		Thank you for the super chat.
		Purple says, Tim, best drug dealer cast brew life.
		We're working on a bunch of commercials and one of them we want to do, we were considering was doing a coffee commercial like a drug commercial.
		So it's like, do you feel tired?
		Lacking focus or depressed?
		Perhaps cast brew coffee is right for you.
		And then having someone like, it's like gray and they're like in the office and they're sad.
		And then, you know, the doctor's like looking and taking notes and then hands them a cup of coffee and then they drink it and they're like, yeah.
		And then we would actually list the side effects, like caffeine's addictive, it can cause jitters, headaches, migraines, things like that.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Refuse sweating.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, refuse sweating.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Do a lot of things.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Caffeine's a drug, man.
		But coffee's cool, we like coffee.
		I love coffee.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Me too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And The Rise of Roberto Jr.
		Breakfast Blend is like my favorite.
		It's really good.
		Yeah, I'm excited.
		I'm excited for the K-Cups so we can just put them in.
		And then we're doing limited edition bags.
		So there'll be a different picture of Roberto Jr.
		on each bag, but it'll be a limited run.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Oh, whoa.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then we're also thinking of doing just outright limited edition runs.
		Like we might just do 1,000 of one kind with one bag and that's it.
		Never, never anymore.
unidentified		Sweet.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So there'll be like special ones.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We can make, we can make like a Labonte brew or something, you know, and like, just like a one run.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Like my face, like big old mouth open on the, on it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We'll grab some more.
		Where we at?
		The average guy at React says, the ad at the beginning of your stream was a Bud Light advertisement.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's what's been happening for us.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Hey man, I'll take their money, I don't care.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's like, if Bud Light loses money and gives me money, and they want to make their argument to you, that's exactly the point.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think they're allowed to make their case and make their argument, and if it sways you, then good for them, you know?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I got no issue.
		Because I can come on my show and I can say what I think about them, and that's fine.
		I don't think they're convincing anybody, but they can try.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		No, apparently it's been happening all week, too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, someone mentioned Goose Island, too.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're trying.
		But this is where they should advertise, right?
		I mean, the people who are watching here are the ones who are perturbed.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, gotta swing back.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
		says, Tim, you gotta check out the latest Cast Castle, The Burtoning.
		The Crowder bit with Taylor yelling at Wesley was better than the actual leaked footage.
		Plus, Burtman's alien rupture.
		Damn, I look good.
		I've heard really, really good things.
		And, uh...
		I've heard really good things about the cinematography.
		They've been doing a really great job with improving the quality and all that stuff.
		So, you know, my attitude with Cast Castle is there is a structure planned for it, but I'm kind of just like, they're going to do their thing, you know?
		And we got to a point where enough people signed up to be members.
		This is the funny thing about Cast Castle.
		So this is like our sitcom kind of joke show where we make poke fun at stuff.
		For a while, we were like, it's not really working, we don't know what we're gonna do, and it was a vlog, and it was like, making some money.
		And then we did this members-only version of it, which was more fiction, fictionalized version of what's going on here in the culture war.
		And we got enough people to sign up, that actually covers the cost of doing CastleCastle as a show.
		So now I'm just kind of like, okay, we did it.
		Like, that's, it would be great if we got a million views, and it was like, this big show, and everyone thought it was funny.
		But we're at a point where enough people like it, and are paying monthly, that it covers The costs of doing the show, and I'm like, we could basically run it forever now.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So there's no, that's it.
		Just, there you go.
		Have fun guys.
		And a number of people like it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Once you cover overhead and like, you know, then it's, then it's all gravy.
		You know, it's like, that's the, that's the goal.
		Like people do get worked up in and thinking of, you know, what, get wrapped up in where am I successful?
		When can I consider myself a success?
		I think that a good, metric of it is can you do what you wanted to do what you
		love to do and pay your bills and if you can do that then you're successful
		anything after that is you know that's gravy but if you can live your life doing
		what you want to do that's that's successful in my opinion knuckle spank says
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		that after show last night was worth every dollar spent on Tim cast
		Facts don't care.
		Come on, man, you know the thing.
		Yeah, so I really do recommend it.
		Basically what happened was I made a comment on the Sports Illustrated cover with Kim Petras.
		I said something about the normalization of certain predilections, and this resulted in our Friday morning guest, who is a trans woman, saying, I will not associate with a person who says these things, even if they're scientifically accurate.
		So then we just we went on the members only and I basically broke down everything that I was saying and how I feel and my point was ultimately that I in no way disparaged anybody by referring to These procedures in this way I presented sex change surgeries in a very neutral fashion with my personal negative leaning opinion without being derisive or targeting an individual and that was too much for them they got so greatly offended by it and then Jordan Peterson chimed in with a picture of Pennywise the clown and I said Dr. Peterson woke up this morning and chose violence.
		So, I recommend you guys check out the Colby Covington Members Only Show.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's a good one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then we had people call in, and then for some reason the Rumble stream didn't work.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Rumble broke apparently.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		For the first few minutes.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, from what Andrew told me later, they were working on some server stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It happens, though.
		I'm not worried.
		We just restarted, and we're good to go.
		And the app, I think, is almost ready to go.
		Here's the problem.
		Getting the Tim Cast app on Apple is crazy hard.
		On Google, apparently, it's super easy.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Play Store.
		No problem.
		That Apple Store.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright, we'll grab some more Super Chats.
		MemeTV says, Kingsley, thank you for standing up and continuing to support Trump.
		We appreciate you.
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		Ah, you're welcome.
		Yes, I am a big Trump supporter.
		24 have not left the Trump train.
		I think he's the only one that can take down the entrenched elite class that controls all of our institutions, as I was saying earlier, in Washington, D.C., inside the Beltway.
		The people that hate those of us who live outside the Beltway and hate our values.
		So I'm behind him 100%.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
		Adam says, hey Tim, can you give a shout out to the new movie Sound of Freedom starring Jim Caviezel?
		Comes out July 4th.
		Thanks.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That has been in the works for like a super long time.
		They had a really hard time finding distribution for that film.
		There's like a lot of lore behind that.
		What's it about?
		It's about human trafficking.
		It was like the first thing Jim Caviezel did after he finished Person of Interest.
		He did a couple of audio books and stuff.
		Related to religious, you know, to his religious convictions and stuff like that.
		But this is his first, I think, full-length film in that period of time, and I'm very excited to see that movie.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Boosted Yogi says, Would you consider having Jared McNeil on?
		He's a freestyle motocross rider that has lived in the States for 13 years, married, and as a child was recently denied his green card because he doesn't have the jab.
		Absolutely!
		That sounds like a good Culture War episode.
unidentified		Yeah, it does.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Should definitely have him on.
		Wyatt Koldenberg says, I noticed that on most local elections in my small city, there are many offices that no one runs for.
		In these cases, City Hall appoints people.
		How do we fill these ballots with the right people?
		That's you.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, run.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there you go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Figure out where no one's running, take the job.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		That's what you were talking about earlier.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		I feel like taking matters into your own hands.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Doing the work.
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, too many of us are sitting on the sidelines.
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		We've got to get in the fight.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I asked perplexity.ai if it was considered homosexual if a male was engaging in activities with a trans woman and it said there's no clear consensus and then actually goes into great detail explaining The positions of the left and the right on it.
		And I thought it was really interesting.
		So then I asked it, would it be considered homosexual if two trans women were engaged in activities with each other?
		And it said, there's no way to know.
		And I'm like, that kind of feels like even the left would agree is.
		You know, like two trans and it's two women, then it's clearly, it would be considered homosexual.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But, you know, the AI is like, look, man, I got no idea what you're talking about.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		It's too scared of getting canceled.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't want to get involved, you know?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bar Fightin' says, why does this guy remind me of Keanu Reeves?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Who?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Which guy was that?
		Was from one of the stories?
		Not sure which guy that was.
		830?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Trash Panda says, yep, we are the ones trying to be healthy.
		I'm currently at the gym getting in a full-body workout.
		Deadlifts for the God Emperor.
		Good stuff.
		And tomorrow morning we're all going on a big family skate trip.
		We're going to have a picnic.
		Because we're going to get good food.
		Then we're going to exercise all day.
		Get real sweaty and do some flippity-flops and whirlybirds.
		And in the case of Brett, he's going to do some grindy-loos.
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Some spinnerifics.
		Andre C says, Tim, your future scenario is a roundabout secular realization of the book of Revelation.
		Ha ha ha.
		Uh, secular realization?
		My future scenario, which one is that?
		The conservative future?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Roundabout secular realization.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because I'm not an atheist!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What is that what is what is it's secular is that a reference to what?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Secular means not like not having an actual religion.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I suppose that's that's correct, but I do believe in God.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I have some form of religion.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like I consider myself agnostic so I don't know because like anything about like spirit realm or whatever is outside of humans ability to know.
		To perceive it.
		You can't.
		You can only know the things that happen inside of our reality.
		Anything else is a matter of faith.
		So, I don't know.
		And so, because I don't know, I can't say there is or is not.
		That's just my take on it.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's, uh... We'll grab some more.
		Matt Neal says, Tim, you are talking about the right conservative surviving if there's a famine apocalypse.
		Angel Studios, the makers of the Chosen series, is doing a campaign.
		Make a show called Homestead.
		It's about exactly that.
		I mean, I'm watching that show Sweet Tooth.
		Have you guys seen it?
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The World Economic Forum propaganda?
unidentified		Oh.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's what I think Alex Jones said about it.
		And I'm watching it, and it's like, do you know what really, really just... There's two things in pop culture I cannot stand watching.
		The first is any fictional show, any depiction, really, of a dog being hurt.
		Like, I don't care if it's, like, a fake TV show.
		If it's a real thing, like, on the news, I'll be angry.
		Like, the cops go in my house and they shoot a dog, I'll be like, ooh.
		But if it's, like, I'm watching a movie and the bad guy, like, kills the dog, that's why, like, John Wick, I was like, I'm going to see that movie.
		Because, like, he gets revenge over it.
		Like, everybody knows, you don't kill the dog, right?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the other thing is when there's a post-apocalyptic world and A character destroys the last chance of, the last remnants of humanity.
		I'm like, that is on par with killing a dog in fiction for me.
		So, like Horizon Zero, the Horizon series, the video games, I view the main character, so the new game came out a few months ago, the new expansion just came out, it's about a post-apocalyptic world.
		I, she's the bad guy, you play the bad guy.
		I'm sorry.
		I don't want to spoil too much, because the game did just come out and people are probably still playing it.
		But I view her as the bad guy.
		Just, like, maliciously evil.
		It's like leftist ideological evil.
		The old world must be destroyed by any means necessary.
		Just like, ugh, evil.
		And then, um...
		I'm watching Sweet Tooth.
		And I don't want to spoil this too because I think season 2 just came out.
		But same thing, man.
		Like, the good guys are the people in these series who are like, let's wipe out all human success and development.
		It is very Ishmael.
		It is very like, go back to living in the caves.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No way, man.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Return to monkey, but in a bad way.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But in a bad way?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Return to monkey is a terrible idea.
unidentified		It is.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		It's not meant to be taken literally.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Return to tradition is different, but return to monkey is the making fun of that.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Even return to tradition, there are people that take it a little too far.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		The deus vult people?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
		I like indoor plumbing and I like the modern world.
		I like air conditioning.
		I like the modern world that we live in.
		And a big part of my problem with the commies is the eco-commies that want to say you can't have air conditioning and you can't use fuel for your car.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I will say this, so the first Horizon game which came out several years ago, I don't mind spoiling because it's like super old at this point, but basically the world ends because automated machines are self-replicating to the point where they're destroying the ecosystem.
		Humanity has 16 months left to live.
		They build underground terraforming labs so that after all of life is wiped out, they can brute force the machines, shut them down, and then re-terraform the earth and clone humans to repopulate it.
		And then the industrialist who made the robots decides to purge the Apollo program, which is the program that would have educated the new humans.
		So instead, they grow up in complete ignorance, literally knowing nothing but English.
		And then the whole world becomes like just a bunch of really dumb, superstitious people killing each other.
		Brutal slavery.
		And the guy says, like, they won't repeat the same mistake, so I'll erase all of the knowledge of humanity.
		And I'm like, yeah, that's the bad guy.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so, I'll just put it simply without spoiling the other game, you basically become the bad guy.
		And I'm just like, how come?
		Here's what I think.
		In the first game, they recognized destroying all of human knowledge was evil.
		In the second game, they are now leftists who are like, actually, that was the good thing.
		And I'm just like, ugh.
		Not, not, not a fan.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		I don't like it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Kneeboopsh says, get the chick to talk, just like yesterday.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let the guest talk.
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		I'm talking.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think people need to understand, like, people talk if they can talk.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'll point this out too, like, there are episodes where you may notice there will be a silence.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is rare, but there will be a silence.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If nobody talks, there's nothing you can do.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And it goes on forever in your brain when you hear it.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		When you're here and there is the moment where it lulls, it lasts for an eternity in a second.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'll get people being like, why isn't someone so speaking?
		Why isn't the guest speaking?
		Why isn't this person speaking?
		And then I'll be like, okay, let's, let's, let's, let's let some air rest.
		And then no one talks.
		And it's like, okay, anyway, where were we?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		People can only talk if they want to talk, you know?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Or if they have something to say, you know, if you don't have anything to say, like.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's probably better to not say anything if you don't have anything to say.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yesterday in Gaming says, Tim, you're forgetting about the lab-grown babies that can be raised by AI.
		They don't need families.
		All they need to do is realize they're having a population crisis and use technology to replace the family unit.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That's enough internet for today.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think so.
		I mean, that is like, at the end of the first Horizon game, you go into one of the ectogenic machines, and then you can see old holographic recordings, and it's like children were born but had no education, and the machines were just like, time for food, children.
		And then if the kids tried to go into the classroom where the program had been purged, it beats them.
		What?
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was like, like, that room is off-limits, children.
		And they're like, we want to know what's in there.
		And they're like, no.
		And then it shows them on the ground writhing in pain.
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		That's like the Nikola Tesla, like, man-made horrors beyond comprehension.
		Like, I just don't even want to live in that world.
		I hope I die before then.
		Like, I just don't want to deal with it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That is my biggest fear about AI and also brain implants and being able to produce worlds, virtual worlds inside your head or whatever.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think that people are going to really do disgusting, disgusting, disgusting things.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bro, haven't you seen Black Mirror?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've seen some.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Where the dude in the fighting game?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know that one?
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You haven't seen this one?
		There's a virtual reality game where you put this thing on your temple, and then it transports you into the game.
		And so it's a fighting game, and these two guys, it's two adult black men who are friends, are playing the game.
		And one guy chooses the Asian fighter guy, and the other guy chooses the female fighter, and then they end up banging all, like, non-stop in the game.
		And I'm like, I'm watching, and I'm like, why does the game allow that?
		Like, someone programmed the ability to, like, do it in this game?
		Because why would anyone play the fighting game if they just made a sex game?
		And then, like, so these two guys are in a relationship in the game, but out of the game they're, like, weirded out by each other.
		And then the one guy's like, I can't do this.
		I'm like, I'm married, you know, I can't keep doing this.
		And then the other guy, who's like an adult black man, who goes into the video game and keeps playing the same, like, Asian female character, says he, like, banged a panda bear and, like, just did all the freaky things in the world.
		And then the two guys meet up They both kiss each other and they're like, that was awful.
		And they're like, okay, we should never do that again.
		But then they decide to go back into the game and keep up the relationship and their wives let them do it.
		I like Black Mirror.
		I think it's gross, but I think it's interesting how Black Mirror explores what people will do given this technology.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		All you have to do is watch a pride parade and you then can extrapolate what types of deviant behavior people will do.
		And if you want to do stuff that, like, what you want to do in your life is your own business, but constantly Like, inundating your brain with dopamine, it is not good for your brain.
		It's not good for your brain at all.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, there's a... I shouldn't say too much right now, but there's a big event coming up next month, and I'm wondering if maybe we do, like, a members-only party at the new Timcast space.
		Yeah, we'll have to figure it out because, um...
		One of the issues we're having is that in order for the second and third floor to be open to the public as a public accommodation, it has to be handicap accessible.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Which is crazy for a building built in 1902.
		Fortunately, the dude who built it back in the day put an elevator in it.
		The only problem is it's an elevator from 1902.
		So that means we have to... We're allowed to use it for private purposes, but if we open the doors as a public accommodation, we can't use that elevator.
		It's too old.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You have to put a new one in the shaft.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and it's actually not that difficult.
		I think it's like $20,000 to $30,000.
		That's not bad.
		For a building modification, it's actually not that crazy, but for me to have to spend that much, that's kind of crazy.
		But if we do it private, if it's a private establishment and it's not open to the public, then we don't, and we're fine.
		You can go up the stairs, and then anybody who's either in a wheelchair or with crutches or something, they can just use the elevator.
		It works.
		But for the public, we can't do it.
		But maybe we do something.
		And I'll leave it at that, but I'll just say I think it would cause a big ruckus if we did.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		It would.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because of what next month is.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, next month is rainbow company logo month, basically.
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		Monkeypox is gonna go through the roof.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, but they put a warning button.
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		They did, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's not even a joke.
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		They just said summer gatherings.
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		They didn't say what kind of gatherings are contributing to the case rise.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Piss guzzling orgy.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Insurgents.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If we did an event, a members only thing, TimCast.com members would get An email saying, like, hey, here's where the party's gonna be.
		Only a certain amount of tickets are available.
		Please RSVP.
		We would, we would basically own that town for that weekend.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, we could do something really cool.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe we should reach out, maybe, like, get, like, a permit for a block party or something.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That'd be sick.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Then we could have, like, all that remains play.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Next month?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's short notice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, but then we just take over.
		I'll tell you the details and you'll understand everything in private.
		I don't want to say too much just yet.
		But, uh, you know, maybe.
		Vigilant says I was unsubscribed yesterday from IRL.
unidentified		What?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they do that stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They do that stuff.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's happened to me before.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Kenny Loggins says, Tim, you don't live in a video game, you're pretty much in the DMV.
		You're not in Montana.
		If it hits the fan, you're just as screwed as the next guy.
		That is incorrect!
		You're incorrect, sir.
		The person who lives in D.C.
		is very, very screwed.
		We are moderately screwed, and the guy in Montana is fine.
		So, we are not the same as the next guy.
		I, I, we have...
		We are well-armed in the mountains, surrounded by right-wing nutjobs.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		We are so well-armed around here.
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		I will say, though, like, what about, like, Ruby Ridge?
		That guy was totally off the grid, well-armed.
		They still got him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But if we're talking about a collapse?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Technically, they got his wife and, like, in the head while she was carrying the baby.
		And Randy Weaver, like, they paid him for killing his wife, you know?
		Geez.
		Yeah.
		He recently passed away, I think.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's the federal government.
		They can do that stuff now.
		If the system collapses and there is no federal government anymore, people in cities are going to be very hungry and they'll start spriting out like a wave in every direction and we're elevated.
		Most of these people are not going to want to climb up the 200 or 300 foot elevation where we are from the rivers.
		If they do, they're in serious trouble because one, we are well armed and two, in the high ground, I'm not really worried.
		And we're surrounded by right-wing nutjobs.
		I think the first thing that happens is if something hit the fan, we'd have a group of people at the intersection waving down the car and being like, which house do you live in?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Where are you at?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're going to have a meeting.
		They'd put up flyers and be like, emergency community meeting.
		And then we would make determinations on where the barriers go up, who's going to be working watch, who is our law enforcement.
		I think we'd be Pretty good.
		Every single person's gonna be like, here's who I am, here's my name, here's my family, know us, you know, we'll have a passcode for the neighborhood, everybody's armed, we don't have a whole lot to worry about.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And the preppers will be so excited because it's what they've been waiting for this whole time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think they'll be excited at all.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it'll just be like another Monday.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Who else here at the castle has night vision besides me and you, Tim?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Who else has got it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Dude, in the... What is it?
		After the collapse of the United States, in the middle of the mountains, the man with night vision is king.
		No joke.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No joke.
		Especially if you've got dual tubes.
		Then you can walk through the woods without falling on your face.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I got those.
		And imagine it's a new moon.
		It's pitch black outside.
		There's limited light.
		You, by yourself, can take over properties and... Night vision's no joke.
		I was reading about how...
		U.S.
		military superiority, a lot of it is based on night vision.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Going into, like, the Middle East, where these people can't see anything in the dark, and they walk through like it's daytime.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, man.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Night vision dual tubes are good for, like, if you have to move around, and then if you're gonna, like, just, like, check out a position, get thermal.
		But thermal's no good for when you're moving around, because you can't see stuff.
		But thermal, you can see if there's anyone there, and the night vision will go ahead and get you there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		cool technology. So the NB says, Tim, your only net positive taxpayers can vote is a great idea
		until something happens that leads to only the rich world economic forum types able to vote.
		Bad idea. No, because they would have to then allocate their tax money to you.
		Otherwise, if they don't, you become a net taxpayer.
		So it's possible.
		What they do then is they say... So imagine it this way.
		Let's say there's five billionaires.
		And they say, all right, we're going to implement a tax at X percent.
		Let's say only they pay it.
		And they're all paying $1 billion.
		So $5 billion goes into the tax coffer.
		That, divided amongst all of the people, gives them a couple dollars in tax benefit.
		Meaning, if you then pay $5 in taxes, you're now a net taxpayer and you get to vote.
		So, it's an interesting idea.
		I don't know if it does work, but that is not a reason why it would not.
		It would have to be, like, if there's 100 million people paying taxes and 250 who aren't, Then those 100 million can vote.
		But if those 100 million vote to take away, to lower taxes, because they don't want to pay them, that makes more net taxpayers who can vote.
		So eventually you'll find an equilibrium.
		Yeah, being a billionaire won't save you.
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kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, just please follow me at KingsleyCortez on all the platforms.
kingsley wilson ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for having me tonight, guys.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I am Phil Labonte, the lead singer of All That Remains.
		You can check me out on Twitter.
		I'm PhilThatRemains on Instagram.
		I am PhilThatRemainsOfficial.
		The band is All That Remains.
		Check us out on Spotify, Apple Music, Pandora, I think, YouTube.
		You know.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		All of those.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		All of those things.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Guys, if you'd like to follow me, you can follow me on Instagram and Twitter, at Brett Dasovic on both of those.
		And I am Serge.com.
		You can follow me on Twitter, you can follow me on Instagram, follow me on SoundCloud too, that'd be kind of cool.
		But I'm really close to a lot more people on Twitter than I ever thought I would have.
		here on YouTube. We had a great episode today.
		Gothix was in the studio with us.
		Go check that one out. It was great, guys.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		And I am Serge.com.
		You can follow me on Twitter.
		You can follow me on Instagram.
		Follow me on SoundCloud, too.
		That'd be kind of cool.
		But I'm really close to a lot more people on Twitter than I ever thought I would have.
		I'm, like, I think it's like 8,000.
		So maybe you could be the 8,000th person and I'll talk to you for, like, 10 minutes, maybe.
		I don't know.
		Cheers, guys.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on!
		Well, everybody, we'll have clips up throughout the weekend.
		We do have some documentaries that are coming out soon.
		We wanted to put out Lauren and, uh, we have Lauren and Ben, uh, Lauren Southern and Ben Stewart here, because we were like, we're gonna get ready to launch, but then we, uh, we needed to run them through basically like copyright check, which ended up taking longer, because it always does, and I'm like, But hopefully those are out in the next week or so, and then maybe two weeks.
		Actually, we're also thinking of doing a full premiere.
		So after we were like, let's do the legal check, I think Lauren and John were like, what would you think about doing a premiere?
		I was like, I would gladly do a theater release.
		That'd be fantastic.
		And like, well, why don't we do it?
		I'm like, okay, well, then we need a month to prepare.
		So maybe we do that.
		But I kind of just want to release them.
		We'll see what happens.
		But I do appreciate all of your support.
		You make it possible.
		Thanks for hanging out, everybody.

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