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Timcast IRL - Zelensky Says US Must Send Its Children To DIE In Europe Over Russia War w/Julie Kelly
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tim pool
So, last night, we have this viral clip going around where the president of Ukraine said
will have to send its children to fight and die just like they do.
And of course, the fact-checkers rush in and are like, no, no, no, he's not saying that we're going to send U.S.
troops on the ground in Ukraine first, because there's already special forces operating there, but he's saying, no, no, no, no, just when the U.S.
is dragged into World War III because of Ukraine, then the American children must die.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
All right, well, let's talk about it.
I'll show you the fact checkers, and it's really funny.
And then I think one of the most interesting stories that I've seen in a long time is the mayoral election in Chicago with Lori Lightfoot, the woke Democrat, losing.
And what I find fascinating is that I don't think she lost due to policy.
I don't think she technically lost due to crime.
I think crime was a factor because it motivated people to vote.
But if you take the electoral map showing what neighborhoods voted for which candidate and overlay it over a racial demographic map, hey, it's nearly one for one.
The white neighborhoods voted for the white guy, the black neighborhoods voted for the black guy, or the black lady, and the Latino neighborhoods voted for the Latino guy, except for one neighborhood.
It's the college neighborhoods.
They voted for a different black guy.
But it's interesting to see that it seems After all is said and done, race was a bigger component than policy itself.
But we'll talk about all that stuff.
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Joining us tonight to talk about all of this and more is Julie Kelly.
julie kelly
Hello.
tim pool
Who are you?
What do you do?
julie kelly
Who am I?
Good question.
I'm Julie Kelly.
I am a writer for American Greatness and Greatness.com.
And I've written two books, working on my third.
But my last book, when I was here last year to talk to you, was about January 6th, how the Democrats have turned the Capitol protest into a war on terror against the political right.
phil labonte
Right on.
julie kelly
So thanks for having me.
unidentified
Absolutely.
tim pool
And there's a lot of new developments there with the footage that's coming out.
So we'll talk about all that.
Thanks for coming.
Should be fun.
We got Phil Labonte hanging out.
phil labonte
Hello, I am Phil Labonte, lead vocalist for All That Remains, anti-communist, and counter-revolutionary.
ian crossland
Hi everyone, Ian Crossland here, happy to be here.
Julie, I'll probably ask you, what's the name of the book, the January 6th book you did?
julie kelly
January 6th, how Democrats used the Capitol protest to launch a war on terror against the political right.
I think I said it wrong the first time.
That's what happens when you have a long subtitle.
tim pool
Yo, what's up guys?
serge du preez
Atsurge.com.
Hopefully the mixture's dialed in today.
We'll see.
tim pool
And I just want to say real quick, because someone asked, will I be able to chat with Ian on Discord?
Yes.
ian crossland
Oh, I was just thinking that, that I would go in there and type.
tim pool
That's right.
Ian will be sitting there and then you can fill his mind with...
He'll, like, show up to this show and his herald bell messed up and he's like, the things they were telling me!
ian crossland
I was in it!
tim pool
I could go over and type.
Everyone's gonna try and argue with you about, like, the things you say on the show.
ian crossland
It's gonna be... Can you make videos and post videos in Discord?
tim pool
Like, as a, hey guys, what's up?
I'm pretty sure we could make, like, a video room or something.
But then, you know, whenever someone gets mad at your opinions, they just gotta pay to be a member so they can tell you in the Discord, you know.
ian crossland
And it actually changes me, keep that in mind.
tim pool
All right, everybody, let's jump into this first story.
So we have this tweet from AtRemarks on Twitter, just in.
This is from yesterday night, around 6.23 p.m.
Ukraine's President Zelensky says U.S.
will have to send their sons and daughters the same way we're sending our sons and daughters to war.
And what I love about this is, yes, he said it.
Yes, it's confirmed.
But, of course, they're panicking and they're... Look at this fact check from AP News.
Zelensky didn't say, here's what AP says, Zelensky didn't say US troops needed to fight in Ukraine.
That's weird.
That's actually what he did say.
He did say that.
So here's the framing they're going with.
claim. A video clip shows Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky saying that Americans will
have to send their sons and daughters to the war in Ukraine.
AP's assessment, missing context.
Zelensky was explaining that if Russia attacked NATO member states, which are US allies, the US
would likely send troops to protect those countries. He was not suggesting Americans
would have to fight in Ukraine. Right, because it's going to be in Poland that the US...
troops are in Poland, and they'll never go into Ukraine.
There will be no advancement on that front.
Once the U.S.
pushes Russia out of Poland, and then Russia is occupying Ukraine, the U.S., of course, will just be like, we are done supporting this war.
Ukraine is lost, of course.
Because that's what he certainly meant.
They say, the clip cut from a two-hour livestream news conference on the somber one-year anniversary of Russia's, somber, come on guys, show Zelensky speaking with the audio dubbed by a translator, quote, the U.S.
will have to send their sons and daughters exactly the same way as we are sending their sons and daughters to war.
Our sons, what?
ian crossland
No, he said their sons and daughters, very weird quote.
tim pool
Right.
And they will have to fight because it's NATO that we're talking about, and they will be dying, God forbid, because it's a horrible thing.
So what he's basically saying is, with the fact check in mind, when the U.S.
is dragged into World War III over their country that is not a NATO ally, Then we'll have to send our children to die in Europe.
Oh, okay.
phil labonte
Why on earth would we send people to defend Europe if it's going to be a nuclear war?
If it's the U.S.
versus Russia, we can die in the U.S.
just as easily as we can, you know, die to nuclear fire in the U.S.
as easily as we could die to nuclear fire in Europe.
There's no reason for the U.S.
to send people to Europe in a nuclear war.
tim pool
I'm not even convinced necessarily it'll be nuclear.
I think the moment we send troops to Europe, a whole bunch of oil refineries just explode all at once.
There's gonna be cyber attacks.
Power plants will shut down, the grid will go out.
I would imagine that when it comes to cyber war, it's a Mexican standoff and every country has their finger on the button to destroy another country's infrastructure.
The crazy thing is that when we started developing the internet, And then we hooked everything into it with the thought of security.
We basically built towers of sticks.
Of bamboo.
And we built our cities on top of bamboo.
And it's like, you know, it's holding us up.
Bamboo's nice.
It's pretty great.
You can make scaffolding out of it.
But it's really easy to knock down, because it's not that strong.
And every country is built on top of it.
So you don't need a nuke.
They can just type in some, press enter, and whoosh!
I think the internet goes out.
phil labonte
I think, well, I mean, I think that you're probably right.
And I think that that only adds to my point that there is no longer the fight over European land the way that Zelensky's framing it if you are talking about a fifth generational warfare or whatever.
tim pool
Fifth generational?
Like psychological operations and stuff?
phil labonte
Well, yeah, I think that's the kind of stuff that would be used, especially if you're talking about, you know, all out war, if you're talking about nuclear war as well.
I just don't see Americans needing to hold European land.
You know, I don't see Americans needing to go into Europe in a new type of war.
tim pool
You know what got me really on board with voting for Trump this next time around?
It's that video from the Whatever podcast.
I don't know if y'all have seen those clips that are going viral where he gets these low-wit narcissistic women to talk about their views on things.
And I'm just watching the clip of that woman talk about feminism and why she's a feminist and her inability to articulate any kind of coherent thought.
And then I just thought about it and I was like, Is this why we have the petrodollar?
Is this why we have the Federal Reserve?
Are we bombing kids in Yemen and Syria and other countries so that these vapid, narcissistic women can have cheap products to smear on their faces?
Yo, I'm ready to go back and work the farm.
I'm ready to just get back to chopping wood and working really hard, and these luxuries are bad for us.
The U.S., I understand the fear, I guess, is probably that China would start crushing the world with, you know, their ridiculous, weird communism, and that's probably, that literally is a bad thing.
So, okay, fine.
That's a tough question right there.
But is this why the U.S.
does these things?
Like, is the reason we're fighting in Ukraine for the expansion of energy so that these vapid, narcissistic, entitled millennials and Gen Zers can be as dumb as a box of rocks but get free stuff?
Because I'm like, vote for Trump, close the borders, build the factories, everybody get back to work, we're not doing this anymore, you're not getting a free ride.
ian crossland
The reason I'm not absolutely out of my mind enraged about the slavery in China or in wherever, wherever they have, I mean slavery, you know, loosely, but where they're building these phones is because I'm getting, I'm sedated by the technology because I have access to cheap computers and phones.
If I didn't, if I wasn't seeing value from the slavery, I'd be out of my mind about it.
phil labonte
But instead I'm like, There's also the fact that there's enough horrible things that happen every single day to drive someone insane if they knew about them all.
The world is a big place and there's a lot of people and there's a lot of suffering.
There's, you know, terrible things going on in China and stuff.
You don't have the capacity to know about it and you shouldn't focus on it.
And that's one of the reasons why I think that people are so frequently depressed is because the Internet is delivering bad news right to their newsfeed all day long and they doom scroll and stuff.
I think that has a psychological effect on people.
julie kelly
I think what preceded his comment here was he was asked about polling in the United States, where the opposition to the war in Ukraine is increasing.
And he was asked about Republican lawmakers, say people like MTG, etc., who want accountability, at the very least, for the $120 billion that's going there.
So they kind of teed him up for this.
So this was part of his rant, basically saying that Republicans, that Americans shouldn't have a contrary opinion about the war, that elected officials should support it 100%.
And if they don't, this is where this is going.
What's interesting is you didn't hear anyone from the regime Say, oh, no, no, this is not where that's headed.
Because this is the natural escalation.
You know, we've seen this before.
So we keep sending more artillery, we're sending jets.
Who's teaching Ukrainian pilots how to use our weaponry?
Or just send it with some instructions?
I mean, this is where it's headed.
So you haven't seen anyone from the Defense Department or anyone with the Biden White House say, no, that was totally out of line.
That's not going to be the case.
What do you think?
Because this is probably where it's headed.
tim pool
I know that we got a long way to go, but I'm curious your thoughts on what would happen the day Donald Trump takes office again with the Ukraine war still in action.
Do you think he just pulls everything back like a snap of a finger?
julie kelly
You know, Tim, I think that the more this goes on and the more it does escalate, it increases Trump's chances of winning.
I mean, I think this issue alone Could be a winning issue for him.
him. That and the border because it's not going to change.
But this, where, how this is going directionally, this could be his biggest issue. So
yes, he would take over.
I think he learned his lessons about who he can and can't trust in the military industrial
complex and the Pentagon, which is basically no one. And so I think if he becomes president,
he fires Mark Milley and a whole lot of other people. And he automatically says, I'm not
listening to any advice. We're done with that.
tim pool
I can already see the political ads that are going to be running on this channel and every
other YouTube channel.
It's going to be a red screen and it's going to show a train derailment and there's going to be some somber, deep voice of a 50-year-old man who sounds like he smoked a pack of cigarettes every day since he was 12 saying something like, when a train derailment spread toxic chemicals, killing livestock and threatening the lives of millions, Joe Biden flew to Ukraine.
And then it's gonna be like, spending $100 billion of your money on a country for what reason?
Don't vote for Joe Biden.
julie kelly
Probably that day alone could be the- That was it, for me at least.
I agree.
tim pool
And even, you know, look, I like DeSantis, but even that day was big on like, DeSantis went out of my mind on that one.
julie kelly
That's right.
tim pool
Donald Trump going down there giving out Big Macs was just like, I was laughing.
And it felt good, like it felt humanly good that Donald Trump was there with a smile, buying Big Macs.
It's like almost stupid, but it was human, it was something.
And the funny thing is, let me just say it like this.
Donald Trump went to East Palestine, Biden went to Ukraine.
Holy, are you serious?
Man, look, I mean, we don't even know if this guy's gonna be able to run anyway, so maybe that's it.
Maybe they're just like, who cares?
It's not gonna be him, right?
julie kelly
But I think that was his, you know, that's Trump's magic.
And I mean, I'm a DeSantis fan, too.
I spent a lot of time in Florida.
He just does not have that sort of personal connection that Trump has honed over years that comes by him naturally, and that was on display.
in Ohio, despite the contrast.
You know, even if Biden hadn't made his trip to Ukraine, on its own, it reminds people
of what made Trump a special president.
tim pool
It was a surprise visit.
unidentified
And what we lost.
tim pool
Right.
Yeah.
Hey, I went to Ukraine!
And we're like, why?
julie kelly
Walk this line.
tim pool
That's amazing.
ian crossland
To give him $500 million.
I remember he took half a billion dollars with him.
phil labonte
He had to doordash him some military support.
unidentified
Wow.
julie kelly
Then Janet Yellen went, so.
tim pool
But yeah, so I'm watching those videos of these vapid young people and I'm just thinking about what is this system that we live in and why do we do it?
ian crossland
It's not- Oh, sorry.
tim pool
Well, no, it's just like we want to maintain the petrodollar.
The United States manufactures nothing.
So in order to maintain our GDP, we, for one, we do produce culture and spread those movies and music around and make money off that.
So there is an export there, but for the most part, we don't manufacture or export things.
So the only reason our economy is propped up is because it's a mostly unipolar world now becoming multipolar.
But that means the United States controlled everything, decimated its competition, and put guns everywhere.
And so it's like, use the US dollar to buy oil or else.
Which means, when this country wants to buy oil, they need to buy the dollars from us and we can charge whatever we want.
Because we got the guns, and then for us, we can just print the dollars and buy the oil.
How about that?
ian crossland
It's sort of like having, I've never had like a grandfather that's super rich, he's like the patriarch of the family, and everyone hates him in the family, but he's the one with all the money.
phil labonte
Why does everyone hate him in this story?
ian crossland
He's such a dick, he's such an alcoholic, abusive, racist, old from way back, and that's what the United States has become.
This hated patriarch that is the vestige of the military industrial.
We used to be so great in the 80s and 70s, so great, you know, because we were actually protecting.
julie kelly
We were pretty heated back then too.
ian crossland
But we did prevent World War III before the invasion of Afghanistan.
julie kelly
They hated Ronald Reagan.
They really hated Ronald Reagan.
ian crossland
You know, the Iran-Contra thing was insane.
I mean, Vietnam was nasty.
tim pool
I'm not a big fan of Reagan.
julie kelly
Europe hated him.
Europe absolutely hated him.
ian crossland
So, and you know, John Rockefeller, he was probably always, I don't know, I don't know if he was personally a jerk, but I think, you know, you get these weird old patriarchs that are like, they control all the money in the family.
And I feel like that's how people are just waiting for the United States to die.
Because you can't kill the old man.
tim pool
That's why I'm saying, You vote for Trump, he builds a wall, he brings the factories back, he stops the foreign policy garbage.
And that means we're not going to be the global police or anything like that.
And that means all of these vapid young people have to roll up their sleeves and learn how to chop wood.
And I'm totally fine with that.
I think it's good.
The gluttony of this country is a huge problem.
Just there's tons of really dumb people who don't work.
And the reason why we're seeing people getting degrees in like feminist dance theory is because you don't have to do anything!
I'm gonna be an influencer.
unidentified
You used to have to break rocks. I'm gonna be an influencer.
tim pool
Yeah, that's right. When China asked what they did, there was that study that's they asked
Chinese kids, you know, what do you want to be when you grow up? And they're like astronauts and
they asked American kids, YouTubers or whatever. Like influencer, right? Influencers.
They wanted to be personalities.
ian crossland
I think it's not the luxury that's destroying people or the even the excessive luxury.
It's the lack of relativism to the luxury.
If you're born in luxury, you don't know it's a luxury.
You got to get out of the system, go to South America and spend some time in the jungle where if you eat the fruit, you're going to get dysentery.
And then come back to the United States and realize that running water is a godsend.
phil labonte
I don't think the fruit gives you dysentery.
ian crossland
You should check it out.
Go to Beilin.
It's where they poop in the river.
They don't know.
phil labonte
But that's the water, not the fruit.
ian crossland
It gets into the ground, into the soil.
And then if you eat the fruit that comes out of it, there's parasites and stuff in it.
And also, it's a different biome.
Your body can't handle certain chemicals the way they can here.
tim pool
I got real sick eating acai in Brazil.
ian crossland
Yeah, I ate a fruit that tasted like creamy.
It was like sweet, creamy fruit I'd never eaten before, and I just started puking immediately after I ate it.
It was crazy, but it tasted so good.
julie kelly
Oh, really?
ian crossland
Yeah, it was wild.
tim pool
Let me pull up this story from Reuters.
Here's the good news, everybody, from Reuters.
EU aims to team up with defense industry to speed up ammunition output.
Oh, that's good news!
phil labonte
I mean, I personally don't mind it.
I'm having a hard time finding gold.556, so...
tim pool
Be okay if Europe starts producing, we can import.
The European Union aims to join forces with the bloc's defense industry to speed up and
scale up the production of ammunition badly needed on the battlefield in Ukraine and to
replenish military stocks at home, its chief said on Saturday.
Make no mistake, ladies and gentlemen, this is World War III.
Will it escalate to a conflict outside of Ukraine is the question.
But NATO and Russia are fighting, and other countries, I believe, are soon to be involved.
China may start—even Zelensky's warning about this—China could team up with Russia, and then it's World War III.
It's like, oh, okay.
If China does, they're not going to say that's the start of World War 3.
They're going to say the Ukrainian invasion was the start of World War 3.
They're going to argue that the Euromaidan protest was the start of World War 3.
So we're in the forest right now, man.
I'll just say this, seeing a story, this is like people were sharing it around like crazy, actually from a week ago, seeing a story where Europe is going to start mass producing bullets, I'm like, yeah, they're getting ready for war.
We're going to see other manufacturing too, and we're going to see the U.S.
shipping more of this stuff in.
So short-term good news, if you invest in like Lockheed or Northrop Grumman, actually I'm going to check that right now.
phil labonte
I mean, this is an evergreen statement, but it's a good idea if you're a firearms owner To make sure that you have a sufficient amount of ammunition for each of your firearms.
So if you've got multiple firearms in multiple different calibers, you need to get some ammunition for all of the calibers.
tim pool
Lockheed's up 9% over last year.
julie kelly
There you go.
tim pool
Just a little bit above, you know, average.
phil labonte
That's outperforming the market, too.
tim pool
Right, right.
phil labonte
Because the market's down.
tim pool
You know, but 9%.
All right, what do we got, like Northrop?
How are they doing?
Is that publicly traded?
phil labonte
Oh, yeah.
julie kelly
Sure.
tim pool
There we go.
Northrop Grumman.
How are they doing?
phil labonte
Let's see.
tim pool
In the past year, they're up 4%.
So, big spike.
They actually dropped down quite a bit.
But, you know, it really does seem like... What's another weapons manufacturer?
ian crossland
Boeing.
Boeing's up 4%.
They dropped down.
What happens?
You see the spikes and the drops.
tim pool
And I think what happens is these... Well, Boeing, 0.65 over the past year.
phil labonte
L3 Technologies.
ian crossland
I'm getting 4% over the past year.
That's weird.
$204 per share?
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah, weird.
phil labonte
Look at L3 Technologies.
tim pool
Down 43% over the past five years.
L3?
What's L3?
phil labonte
L3, they make a lot of laser devices and smaller stuff.
tim pool
Oh, lasers.
They're doing really well, or what?
No, they're way down.
They're down 17%.
phil labonte
Oh no.
tim pool
Yeah, you know, we don't need lasers, Phil.
ian crossland
You see the spikes and the drops.
They'll sell off and then buy back up and do these organized.
I mean, it's illegal to do that, but I think that's what happens is they sell off, stock plummets, people panic sell, and then they buy a bunch back up.
It's unfortunate, but that's what happens when people control the market.
tim pool
My graphene investment's doing real well.
That will continue for the next decade.
unidentified
28%!
ian crossland
Yeah, man.
Wow!
tim pool
I'm just waiting for the moment that these weapons manufacturers come out and they're like, we've made a tremendous discovery in weapons technology.
The graphene bomb!
And then it's just like, the stock jumps 400%.
ian crossland
We were talking about making better primer a couple nights ago.
tim pool
Using graphene.
ian crossland
Yeah, graphene's gonna be utilized.
Graphene bullets, graphene rifling, all that stuff.
tim pool
I'm not convinced, but sure.
phil labonte
I want it to be true.
julie kelly
But think about those corporations.
There's no war, okay?
We're out of the Middle East.
Nobody really believes in war and terror.
There's nothing really looming.
What happens to those corporations?
I mean, these are huge corporations.
phil labonte
They're still making the same products.
julie kelly
You have a huge military.
You've got so many people invested.
in foreign war in the military but there's nowhere to go.
So what do you do?
Well you get a clown like Zelensky and you pump him up as some sort of savior and you let this you know for years Putin obviously is a bad guy but he's not the worst enemy that we have and so you manufacture this and then everybody you know I think they thought They could conjure up the old days of beating the war drums.
It would bring people together and enrich the people who are getting rich.
tim pool
Zelensky is literally a clown.
That's right.
I'm not saying to be cute or insult him.
He was a comedian on a comedy show and there's like viral clips of him playing guitar naked on stage or like pretending to be naked that was going viral.
ian crossland
Apparently pretty funny guy.
I never saw.
I don't speak Ukrainian.
tim pool
Yeah, that's fine.
He's probably a funny guy.
And he played a character on a TV show about a comedian that became president or something like that and then he became president and it's just like...
ian crossland
And deep down he wants to be loved, all actors do.
This obsession with being liked, which is why I think we could make a hero out of him if he ends this war.
If there's enough public support for it, he would throw his life at it.
tim pool
It works for him as the puppet candidate because he can speak.
You need someone who can stand up and do the propaganda shots and everything.
julie kelly
He can act, that's for sure.
tim pool
Remember those videos that came out that looked like they were CGI'd?
It's like the trees weren't moving behind him, and then they're like, no, those are real, it's just the lighting is weird, but they put spotlights on them, and it's like, yo, the trees aren't moving either.
People believe that stuff.
ian crossland
Do you think that if, we were talking about Trump earlier, that if he ran again, or I think he's going to, or I don't know, has he declared?
julie kelly
Trump already declared a while ago.
ian crossland
I haven't heard from him in about a month and a half, or something like that.
So the media is just gonna be like, hey, Putin's friends trying to run for president again.
We can't let him.
We can't let Putin's buddy get president or he'll give Russia to all of Europe.
And how can that possibly be overcome?
The liberal economic order's stranglehold on the media is so guttural, you think?
Like shows like this.
tim pool
Share this show with your friends if you think the liberal media is bad.
phil labonte
He does have a point.
julie kelly
Smooth.
ian crossland
That's going to be a rough sell on people, because they're going to have to get, what, 51% of the voting population to go for this or something?
tim pool
It's decentralization.
Look, man, Don Lemon's melting down because his show is crumbling.
CNN's losing whatever grip they had.
Zucker's out.
These big networks, they're struggling to maintain the narrative.
It's, you know, it's almost like we're getting, we talked about the time machine.
What was it called?
The two different species of humans.
One were like trolls and one were like super smart or whatever.
phil labonte
The Morlocks and the Eloy.
I forget the name.
Something like that.
tim pool
It feels like that's what we're going because right now, you know, to shout out that podcast again, which is just getting all these viral clips, these women, this woman's like, He asks her, are you a feminist?
unidentified
She's like, yeah, I'm a feminist cause like the system is, you know, like the women should be, I want to do whatever I want and the system.
tim pool
And I'm just like, holy crap.
That's a Biden voter right there.
And then this, everybody watching here is a Trump voter.
Maybe some dishonest voters, because, like, there's a logical decision to be made about the capabilities of either man, but there's no decision to be made about Biden.
Anybody who spends five seconds reading is gonna be like, this man is not qualified to be president, period.
Or I should say, he should just be kept far away from office.
His brain don't work.
Yeah, but what we're getting is these people who are just like, I don't know, like I saw on the TV, they said Donald Trump was Russian, and Russia is like in Mexico, and so we shouldn't, I don't want a Mexico president, and then you're like, have you seen these FLECAS talks things they do?
phil labonte
I haven't seen the FLECAS talks, but I know what you're talking about.
tim pool
They go down and they'll ask a random person, name a country that's name starts with the letter U, and they'll go, uh, Utah?
And it's like, I know dumb people exist, and you can find them and make videos mocking them, but I'm just growing concerned that, you know, that, let's talk about the Lab League thing real quick, and then we'll get into it in a bit.
It's just like, Seamus Coghlan put it really well, Freedom Tunes guys, shout out.
He said, remember when a virus emerged in the city that had a virus factory and emerged right next to the virus factory, but they called you crazy for believing that it didn't come from the market a few blocks away?
It's just, like, Jon Stewart talked about that, and he was just like, it's crazy, they called him racist and alt-right.
There are people that are so dumb that Zelensky can go on TV, and I'm driving down the street in West Virginia, and I see the Ukrainian flags.
And West Virginia, Virginia, Maryland, there are people who, they can't even point to Ukraine on a map, and they're, like, agreeing with a hundred billion dollars in war funding for a country they've never heard of.
ian crossland
It's similar to voting against someone, which has been a big problem the last five years is that people want to vote against the guy they don't like.
Now, right now they're fighting against Russia.
It's not even for Ukraine.
I think the Ukraine flag means we're afraid Russia is going to take over Europe.
They've just been scared to believe it.
tim pool
I don't know, I guess the goal with the EU is they want to make it just like the United States.
They want it to be a large centrally controlled block of different economic regions, right?
And so the more they can induct other countries into it.
Ukraine, of course, they want Ukraine in the EU.
The problem is their economy is too bad.
So they're going to go with NATO first.
Russia's like, no way, I'm not letting you do this.
You're basically taking over.
You know what the funny thing about Russia is?
There's a funny viral video from a long time ago where this woman is like, she's explaining that Russians are Asian.
And they're like, no, they're not.
It's like, yes, they are.
Russia is north of China.
And like, you can't.
And then there's another video where like Indian women are explaining that they're Asians because India is in Asia.
And then people like, no, you can't say that.
But I remember I was talking to a friend and I mentioned that Russia was in Asia.
In fact, most of Russia is in Asia.
And then you have like the eastern portion.
What is it?
West of that mountain range.
ian crossland
The Ural Mountains?
tim pool
The Ural Mountains.
unidentified
I think so.
tim pool
Yeah.
And you know, west of it is Europe and then east of it.
But most of Russia is in Asia.
And then I had to explain to them, I'm like, Russia is like 50 miles from Japan and it's north of China.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
People don't know how big this place is.
They don't know what its interests are.
All they know is, you know, I don't know, communists from the Soviet era or something?
phil labonte
I don't even think that they have a concept of that.
I think that it's a far more simplistic view of Russia.
You know, the narrative is that Russia is, you know, Among the basket of the of deplorables, essentially, you know, obviously Russia is an authoritarian run state, but it's the the way that they've aligned Donald Trump, Russia and and essentially anyone that has that has a dissenting opinion in the United States is smeared with the Russian puppet narrative.
julie kelly
Isn't Zelensky getting rid of a bunch of people, though, too?
Hasn't he purged some of his leaders, defense ministers or finance ministers?
I mean, he's doing his fair share, I think, of crushing political dissent in his own country.
ian crossland
He shut down media.
unidentified
He shut down a television network.
julie kelly
I believe churches associated with Russia.
phil labonte
Yeah, Russian Orthodox.
julie kelly
Orthodox, right.
phil labonte
Which, I mean, obviously that's stuff that the media in the U.S.
doesn't want to talk about because it's illiberal behavior and they want to paint Zelensky as a democratic government that we can rely on as a stable partner.
And they ignore the fact that Ukraine was one of the most corrupt countries in Europe.
Eastern Europe is terribly corrupt.
They didn't handle the transition from Soviet states to liberal democracies the way that the United States did.
It was significantly more corrupt and run for the oligarchs, really, that whoever could grab power at the end of the Soviet Union.
The situation in the Ukraine is nigh.
It's not the U.S.' 's business.
tim pool
Well, let's talk about the escalation of war, because we got this here story from the Daily Mail.
mail. FBI director agrees with Energy Department report that COVID most likely leaked from
Wuhan lab and claims China is thwarting and obfuscating US investigations into the virus.
So, uh, okay. Uh, shout out to Colbert because he actually pointed this out in his bit, although
he was trying to be dismissive.
He said the reason the Department of Energy is putting out a statement on the lab leak is because they actually oversee biolabs.
So a lot of people are, you know, Jon Stewart made a joke when asked about it.
He's like, I wasn't waiting for the Department of Energy to weigh in on this one.
They'll laugh.
And it's like, well, they actually are the authority as they oversee biolabs.
And the FBI director, Christopher Wray, agrees The lab leak, how about this?
What's the debate now?
What's the argument?
Can we just tell all of these crackpot liberal people in the corporate press they were wrong and they should be fired or what?
Firewall?
For other reasons, I guess.
ian crossland
A lot of them were reporting what they were told, so I don't know if you... So is that... Wait, wait.
tim pool
So, you know, I hire a reporter, and then I'm like, go report on what's going on with the pandemic, and then after you do, I'll tell you what to write?
ian crossland
Yeah, basically, that's how those corporations work.
tim pool
It's true, but yeah, I mean, those aren't journalists.
They're PR spokesmen for powerful institutions.
ian crossland
They're reporting, they're not investigating.
julie kelly
Well, like everything, it goes back to Trump, because Trump was the one who said this virus is from China, suggested that this was the source of it.
And so the media, in their reflexive behavior then, of course, had to come out and say no.
that that's not it. And so they just dug their heels in and there wasn't a lot of
reporting on this until you know not even this revelation.
There were others stepping forward. Do you think it was Trump? He called it
ian crossland
the China virus right away.
tim pool
I mean, a lot of people were blaming China, but Trump was a very loud and prominent voice very early on blaming China.
ian crossland
He was critical of China early, early in his... He was always critical of China.
tim pool
He campaigned on it.
phil labonte
Do you think that that was the motivation behind the push against the narrative that it was a Wuhan virus?
julie kelly
That it was manufactured by the CCP.
tim pool
There's a really great video where there's this doctor who says, The reason the press ignored the lab leak stuff is because we funded the lab, and it was embarrassing.
And if we didn't fund it, it would be 100% of Americans agreeing it most likely came from the lab.
But it's insane.
That, uh, I mean, the video's fantastic.
It's insane that the media literally said this.
And I have people repeating it to me.
I had a friend be like, no, I think it probably came from the wet market.
And I'm like, you think the bat coronavirus didn't come from the bat coronavirus laboratory.
It came from the wet market a block away from the laboratory where someone drove a bat from a thousand miles away to eat instead of the lab where they had the actual viruses that That's how I feel too.
phil labonte
I think that Donald Trump would get pushback no matter what, but I think that because the U.S.
government was funding the lab in Wuhan and the COVID virus likely came from the lab in Wuhan, that that is going to make the narrative pushback the significant factor.
tim pool
Does it mean we can call it the China virus now?
phil labonte
I mean, I don't see a problem with it, but someone's gonna say you're a racist.
tim pool
I'm part Asian, so I'm allowed to, and you're racist if you tell me I can't.
phil labonte
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah, but I don't need no white liberals coming to me and telling me what my people are allowed to say, huh?
That's racist.
You know, I'm trying to have a conversation over here.
But they'll call Larry Elder a white supremacist.
phil labonte
They're going to call you racist no matter what.
I mean, it doesn't matter what you say because they're going to call you names and they're going to frame it in a way that can slime you no matter what.
Dirty smear merchants.
tim pool
As we've mentioned this in the past couple of nights, I think the U.S.
is getting ready for war with China, and they need this narrative.
ian crossland
I don't think so, because they were working together on bioweapons in Wuhan, and we're like neighbors in the Pacific, so I don't think so.
tim pool
Neighbors?
ian crossland
Yeah, with Russia, with like Alaska and China and Russia all being kind of like triangulated.
phil labonte
That is a very large area that you're thinking of.
tim pool
And we're not neighbors, like, you could argue we're neighbors everywhere in the world because the hegemonic powers are pressing against each other's borders, but like, we're all neighbors!
Like, yeah, and shooting at each other, but sure, neighbors.
Like, Pakistan and India are neighbors.
ian crossland
Well, they've got Pacific Coast access.
Any of these Pacific Uh, countries I would consider, like, our West Coast neighbors.
tim pool
Like, sure, but like, China is our principal adversary.
And they've been, like, sending warships into our territorial, like, near or just outside of our territorial waters, Alaska and Hawaii.
ian crossland
I think they're deathly afraid we're gonna invade China.
tim pool
You think China's scared the U.S.
will invade China?
ian crossland
Deathly afraid.
What makes you say that?
Because they're like a crumbling economy, just using us as their greatest sales agent.
If we cancel our alliance with China, they go bankrupt.
That's different to invading mainland China.
I think that's the fear of most people around the world, is that the United States is going to invade.
phil labonte
No.
Not China.
That is so outside of the realm of possibility.
Actually, maybe that's why, because it's the least likely thing that could happen.
I figured it out.
tim pool
I figured it out.
Here's what we've got to do.
America's got guns, right?
phil labonte
Yes.
tim pool
The US just needs to build, like, a land bridge to China and then tell Americans... Go.
Yeah.
And because, you know, here's what I was thinking.
The Chinese people have no guns.
And so if you took every American citizen and just plopped it right on top of China, like instantly, the Americans would take over and own the place.
Because we've got so many guns.
phil labonte
If they have no guns, what are we going there for?
Well, because I was thinking like... They don't have oil.
tim pool
We wouldn't invade... They have rare earth mines.
Rare earth minerals are actually everywhere, but just China's got the industry.
If the U.S.
was going to invade China, I was thinking about this, and I'm like, you know, why doesn't anybody invade the U.S.?
Well, it's obviously because there's a gun behind every blade of grass.
But not in China.
They've got a big army.
They have the largest standing ground army.
But that won't matter when you have... How many people are in their army?
Not 300 million.
Let's say you take 100 million U.S.
adult men with guns.
phil labonte
It's a third of the country.
tim pool
They'll win any war.
Like, it's all the men.
ian crossland
China's very weak militarily.
They have good technology, but their citizens are, like, malnourished and impotent when it comes to military.
phil labonte
They have a billion and a half people.
ian crossland
Fighting with backhoes and stuff.
phil labonte
It doesn't matter when there's a billion and a half.
ian crossland
Well, it does if they don't have weapons, if they don't have ballistics.
tim pool
Important side point that people are bringing up.
Adrian Curry just said, avoid Discord, they'll ban you.
Yeah, we need to find something other than Discord.
serge du preez
Right.
phil labonte
There's another, uh, there's something out there that's an option.
I forget the name of the company that runs it.
tim pool
We'll figure it out.
ian crossland
Matrix is one.
Uh, the Matrix protocol and like element, element chat, but it's pretty, it can be pretty buggy.
unidentified
Right.
serge du preez
I mean, Rumble's working on something for us, so we'll see what they can cook up.
Yeah.
Oh, you think Rumble will make a, Yeah, I think they're literally building something for us because we need something bespoke.
tim pool
Well, if that's the case, Rumble should build channel chats and then we can embed the channel chat on all of the content so there's always a chat room available everywhere, 24-7.
serge du preez
Hey, that's a good idea.
I like that.
phil labonte
Gilded is the name of the other company that I was thinking of.
unidentified
Gilded!
phil labonte
Yeah, they do essentially the same thing as Discord.
ian crossland
I bring up this China stuff because I think that as Americans, we've been like indoctrinated by lit to live in fear of other people.
It's since 911.
Basically, I've seen it pretty intensely.
And I don't think that anyone has any intention of invading the United States right now to be like, poking the bear.
And, and, I mean, look at what we did with NATO, how we pushed it right up to the Russian border and then blame them for, for moving forward.
Like, it's like putting turrets right out.
You were putting a bunch of turrets right outside someone's front door.
julie kelly
I don't think any of it is serious because these aren't serious people, including the people who are running our military.
People who are in charge here and everywhere else, they're just not serious.
They're not capable people.
phil labonte
Are you saying that you don't think Putin's serious?
julie kelly
Well, to do what?
Beyond what he's already doing.
tim pool
I love this meme.
julie kelly
I don't think he wants to invade the U.S.
phil labonte
No, he doesn't.
I agree with that.
julie kelly
Or I don't think he wants to invade Poland.
I don't think he wants to invade anywhere.
ian crossland
This is a good example of us thinking that the Iranians are a threat.
Iranians are a threat to the United States.
tim pool
It's a meme where it says, Iran wants war.
Look how close they put their country to our military bases.
And then it shows all of the U.S.
military bases surrounding Iran.
ian crossland
Yeah, I don't think that the United States is at any threat to anyone but themselves at this point.
tim pool
Well, the U.S.
is a threat to a lot of people around the world.
serge du preez
Yeah.
ian crossland
Well, I mean, there is no threat to the United States beyond themselves at this point.
If we implode and rip our country apart, that's the end of America.
tim pool
Otherwise... Well, it's happening.
And you know what?
julie kelly
Whatever.
tim pool
That's why I'm saying, look, the argument for Trump, the argument about Trump was that if you revert to nationalism and you reduce internationalism, secure the borders, bring manufacturing back, It's semi-isolationist.
I'm not saying you cut yourself off from the world, but what happens then is the petrodollar crumbles, the U.S.
becomes reliant on its manufacturing base to do trade with other countries instead of military might.
And so my attitude was like, look, if you like the way you live, Where you can write articles about celebrity gossip and get paid 60k a year?
Then you want to vote neolib.
You want to vote neocon.
You want to vote establishment.
Because bombing kids in Yemen sells weapons to Saudi Arabia, which props up our economy, and then you get to do nothing for everything.
But if you vote for Donald Trump...
You're gonna have to roll up your sleeves, get a good job, take care of yourself, figure things out on your own, and you're not gonna get this free ride from blown-up kids.
Donald Trump's foreign policy, I think, proves that, and I've always been about the U.S.
should not be using military might for economic advantage around the world, but I tell you this, all these leftists and all these liberals, If you actually place them in front of, like, a fork in the road, and you said, the fork on the left ends all war from the United States and the Empire, but you'll have to work from sunup to sundown on a farm to survive, and the road on the right, we blow those kids up, but you get cheap cheeseburgers.
They will all walk down the right fork.
Every single hipster college leftist will take the go-ahead-and-blow-them-off-if-it-means-I-don't-gotta-work.
Because already we're seeing these videos of young people being like, they're filming themselves on TikTok going, why do I have to work to like live?
phil labonte
I can't believe that's a thing.
julie kelly
Adulting.
tim pool
Yeah, the word adulting.
julie kelly
Old term.
tim pool
Oh boy.
Let's talk about how bad things are in this country.
Here we got this tweet for ya.
I tweeted this out this morning.
If you take the Chicago election results map and place it over a racial demographics map, what you get is probably unsurprising.
Black neighborhoods voted for Lightfoot, a black woman.
Hispanic neighborhoods voted for Garcia, Hispanic.
And white neighborhoods voted for Vallis, and some Johnson.
Vallis is a white guy.
Now it's not absolute, Johnson is a black man as well, but this is a fascinating thing.
Here's the map, you can see, and the maroon is Vallis, a white man, the burnt orange-ish is Johnson, who is a black man, the purple is Lightfoot, you know Lori Lightfoot, they call her Beetlejuice, and the green is Garcia.
Now, you may notice that there's a big chunk of green here and green here.
Well, let's start with this.
Here's a map of... You know, it's really annoying that the way... Wait, let me see if I can shrink this down somehow.
No, actually, I can't.
serge du preez
Scroll a little bit, maybe?
tim pool
It can't scroll.
It won't let me scroll.
Oh, I see.
So... Oh, well, it is what it is.
Actually, maybe I can do this.
There we go.
And now I can shrink it.
All right.
Nope, still didn't work.
Alright, nevermind.
So you take a look at this, you know what, we'll just go right for the map.
Here you go.
Here's the race and ethnicity in Chicago map.
And here's white.
You can see up here on the top left, Nero Hare, it's all white.
You can see here, it's moderately white.
You can see right here, it's all white.
You can see down here, there's some white.
You can see here and here.
And then let's take a look at the electoral, election results map.
Hey, look at that.
The white area, the white area, the white area.
They all voted for a white guy.
Take a look at this.
Let's go back and check out Hispanic.
Here, you got a big chunk right here in the middle, right here, and down here, and what do you see?
Go back to the electoral map.
Hey, look at that!
Right in the same place, they voted for the Hispanic guy.
Now, hold on.
Ward 10, you might say, voted for the white guy.
Ah, yes.
But 36% for Vallis, the white guy, and 35% for Jesus G. Garcia, the Hispanic guy.
In a neighborhood that is mixed between white and Hispanic, they voted mixed.
And then, of course, if you go back to the racial demographic maps and look at black, you'll see this whole area is black community and right here as well.
And then you look at the electoral map and sure enough, the only thing that apparently mattered to people in Chicago was the race of the candidate.
How about that?
I'm sure a lot of people were concerned about policy.
I'm sure a lot of people, if you take a look at this area, Logan Square up to Rogers Park, This is the hipster portion.
That's wokeness.
These are the woke left people.
And they voted for Johnson.
julie kelly
And he's to the left of Lightfoot.
There you go.
That explains it.
tim pool
So for them it's policy, but they're also racist, so I'm unsurprised.
julie kelly
So there you go.
Right.
tim pool
Yeah, I was looking at the map in the breakdown, and I was wondering, like, why did Lori Lightfoot lose?
She's an awful mayor.
And here's the thing.
Everybody's talking about, like, oh wow, she came in third place, she got defeated in a landslide.
No, she didn't.
She got the same amount of votes she got last time.
The only difference, this time, white people voted.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
The lockdown, the shutdowns, I call them shutdowns.
tim pool
Crime!
julie kelly
And there were 8 cabins.
tim pool
It was crime.
ian crossland
Crime as a result of the shutdowns.
tim pool
Vallis ran almost exclusively on crime.
phil labonte
Crime as a result of 8 cabins.
tim pool
I mean a lot of things.
But you look at his website, and he's got a tab on the menu bar for issues, and then right next to it is crime.
And then he's got a report crime.
So his campaign website was encouraging voters to report crimes to him.
That's how much crime motivated white people to vote.
julie kelly
Well, and what you're talking about, you know this because you're from Chicago, and I can say I'm from Chicago or I cannot say it.
Yeah, you're from, that's what you're allowed to.
Now that I'm outside, okay, suburban Chicago.
I spent enough time there.
But that pink area to the right is, I mean, that's a lot of lib, white, woke women in that area.
tim pool
Which one up here?
julie kelly
So Lincoln Park.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
julie kelly
So the Louvre up north.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
julie kelly
Through Gold Coast.
tim pool
Gold Coast.
julie kelly
Lincoln Park, you know, Wrigleyville, and then you start to get into the Johnsons area there.
You know, that's the wealthiest part of the city.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
So... But even here on the southwest side.
julie kelly
But that's also an area that has always really been immune to crime, the Gold Coast, Lincoln Park.
I mean, and that just has not been the case.
So people who've lived there safely thought they could walk to the restaurants.
You know, that's, you know, I looked up the Gold Coast.
I mean, it's like it's it's locked down.
tim pool
Yeah, I looked up Lori Lightfoot's election results and she got like 88,000 votes in the last election.
Which won her race?
julie kelly
Which one?
The first one?
tim pool
Her previous election.
And then this time around she got, I think, what did she get?
No, no, she got like 92.
She got 87,000 votes this time around, putting her in third place.
If she got only a few thousand more, she would have beat Brandon Johnson.
And then if she needed, what, 9,000?
No, not even.
7,000 more.
Not even 7,000.
Oh, I'm sorry.
unidentified
17,000.
tim pool
My bad.
About 17,000 more votes, and she would be in the runoff with Paul Vallis.
And that's what happened last time.
She got around 90,000 votes, went into a runoff, and then she won.
My prediction?
Brandon Johnson wins.
julie kelly
Okay.
tim pool
Based on this map showing you that the black neighborhoods voted for the... If you look at the black neighborhoods, the top candidates' votes, Lori Lightfoot, Willie Wilson, and Brandon Johnson.
The top three, they're all black.
If you look at the white areas, it's Paul Vallis, Brandon Johnson, Jesus Garcia.
It's mixed.
My prediction is the black neighborhoods will likely vote for the black candidate in the runoff, not the white guy, giving Brandon Johnson the tremendous advantage just to win.
So it's kind of disheartening to be completely honest that you look at like the Hispanic neighborhoods and they just vote for the Hispanic guy and the white neighbors voted for the white guy and the black neighbors voted for the black lady.
So what do you think is going to happen then?
You're going to get... Here's my prediction in the future.
I think we're going to start seeing a tremendous amount of black politicians and To a lesser degree, Hispanic and Asian, but a tremendous amount.
And the reason is, conservatives don't care about race.
If you have a Larry Elder or Thomas Sowell, conservatives are gonna be clapping and cheering for him.
They don't care what his race is.
They care about the policies and the ideas.
The liberals and the left are extremely racist.
They won't vote for a white guy, which creates real problems for the Democratic Party.
That's why they want a Kamala Harris or something like that.
So what'll end up happening is, you're gonna have, in this scenario, it's a perfect example, Brandon Johnson.
Don't know his policies, don't know anything about him.
But if we're seeing, by neighborhood, people vote predominantly based on race, what's gonna happen?
White people will be split between Vallis and Johnson because you're gonna get a mix of the college liberal types in Logan Square and Rogers Park who are racist, who won't vote for a white guy.
Then you'll get the more urban conservative types who will vote for the tough-on-crime guy.
Then you'll get the black neighborhoods voting for the black candidate, and you will ultimately end up with more black candidates winning in the long run.
ian crossland
Also, when a white person and a black person have a baby, they have a black baby.
They call it mixed, but like Barack Obama.
You call him a black guy.
He had a white mother.
tim pool
And this is something that I was told since I was a little kid, being mixed race.
I was told that on the census, I am not a white person.
That even though I'm 75% white, according to the U.S.
government, I am not white.
That's how it works.
So I'm like, I don't know.
But my point ultimately is this.
If conservatives are not racist, and they're willing to vote for anybody, And the left is only willing to vote for minorities?
That's going to create a tremendous pressure in one direction away from white candidates.
julie kelly
Well, I think in Chicago, and Johnson is far more progressive, even more so than she is.
I think he wants a city income tax.
I think he's defund the police guy.
He was bolstered by the Chicago Teachers Union, the most powerful political interest group in the city by far.
And I think after-crime education is a huge one.
You have hugely dropping attendance and participation rates in Chicago Public Schools, especially after lockdowns.
And of course, Chicago Public Schools had one of the longest lockdowns.
And Paul Vallis, so education is a big issue.
Paul Vallis is the former education Secretary in the city.
He worked for Rich Daley.
I believe he was his education, you wouldn't call it secretary, head of education.
So he's got a very strong background.
I think he also was in Philly and a few other cities.
So I think that that is sort of his advantage.
But I think, you know, it wasn't that long ago Chicago, you know, they voted for Rahm Emanuel.
Obviously Rich Daley won, I don't know how many terms, four.
So you have Vallis, who is a daily Democrat, which a lot of people nowadays call Republicans, versus a very far left candidate in Johnson.
So it's going to be a big battle.
tim pool
You take a look at these black neighborhoods, and you can see that Lori Lightfoot, Willie Wilson, and Brandon Johnson are at the top.
In Ward 6, Lori Lightfoot is 38%, Willie Wilson is 22, and Brandon Johnson is 18.
That means when it goes to the runoff, why would they vote for Vallis?
They're gonna vote for Johnson.
He's their third pick, not Vallis.
He gets their vote.
And so then you look at Ward 11, Vallis and Johnson are, Vallis is 58% to Johnson's 14, to Garcia's 13, but I think Johnson still gets an advantage there.
You take a look at the woke areas.
Trust me, guys, if you don't know, Logan Square is woke as they come.
ian crossland
I used to live there.
tim pool
That's right, me too.
unidentified
Young hipster.
julie kelly
Well, that's Northwestern is north of there.
tim pool
Yep, that's right.
And you got Loyola up here as well.
And so Brandon Johnson's already winning in these places.
So then you look at this over here, Brandon Johnson's got 19%, Val has 50%.
I think you give all of these areas already leaning slightly towards him, plus just take a look at the vote.
Lori Lightfoot and Willie Wilson's votes, if you take 87, let's just call it 90 plus 45, So you're taking an extra 140,000 votes on top of Brandon Johnson?
He crushes Vallis.
I don't see Vallis picking up the rest of the votes.
And I'm gonna say it, I don't care what the left says, you can clearly look at these maps and see that people were just voting for the race of the individual.
That's it.
It makes... But you know what it could be?
It could be simply put, if you're a guy, if you're from Little Village, if you're from Ward 12, and you're Hispanic, you know that community better.
So it makes sense when you're campaigning and saying stuff like, hey, I'm gonna help with these issues.
The people who live there are like, hey, those are issues I know.
And so Lori Lightfoot knows these areas, but as much as I think it's fair to say there's a component there, I really do think, for the most part, the people in Chicago have proven they're simply voting based on race.
Now, for the people who are voting for Paul Vallis, this is what I was saying, I think conservatives, for the most part, don't care.
They're just like, if you're tough on crime, I'll vote for you.
Lori Lightfoot is not tough on crime.
That's why you can see up in these areas, Johnson gets a portion of the vote, and Vallis gets a portion of the vote.
He gets the most of the vote.
But I think what I just think it's clear as day right there that people just care about race.
ian crossland
Well, it's it's definitely you're right.
Your observation is correct that it is based, you know, racially how it's segregated is how it was voted.
But correlation is not a proof of causation.
So it's, you know, keep that in mind when making claims about why people voted.
tim pool
Sure, and that's why I said there's a possibility that, you know, Garcia gives a campaign speech.
And because his experience comes from the same neighborhood, it resonates with people in that neighborhood.
ian crossland
Does he speak Spanish?
julie kelly
Chuy Garcia?
ian crossland
That's a big... Who?
julie kelly
That's his name, Chuy Garcia.
tim pool
Chuy?
ian crossland
His real name is Chuy?
julie kelly
I think it's something else, but that's what they call them.
ian crossland
If you speak Spanish or your parents are from Mexico or something like that, then I could see why you would vote for someone that also spoke Spanish.
julie kelly
Oh, for sure.
I mean, he's been around for a while.
tim pool
I mean, look, man, there's a reason why everybody lives next to the people of the same race.
There's a reason why the neighborhoods are all segregated.
People choose to do that.
The government, like redlining and blockbusting ended.
Blockbusting ended in the 80s.
Redlining ended a long time ago.
People now just choose to live next to people who they look like and look like them.
So this, like, I think the Democrat critical race theory leftist stuff makes this worse and is exacerbating it.
phil labonte
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
ian crossland
I believe that.
The whole, like, let's get a woman of color as our vice president, like that obsession with race and gender, or I guess sex and race, you're going to see it all over the place.
julie kelly
It's been a city whose politics has been run by race for a long time.
You go back to the days of Harold Washington and that whole wars of the early 1980s.
That was when he was the first black elected mayor, I think, in the country.
Maybe he was the second.
So it's not necessarily new, but I don't know.
I'm going to disagree a little bit.
I think there's different dynamics for the runoff than just race.
I just think it's a far more complicated, complex race.
Maybe I'm being naive.
ian crossland
What else do you think there is?
julie kelly
I think education.
Paul Avalos, his roots to the city.
You know, he's not like the old business guy or say a Rahm Emanuel or somewhere.
He's got good credibility and a good background in what he's done for the city.
And I do think his background in education You know, crime being the major issue there.
I think what's happening in the schools is a major issue to a lot of these parents.
Now, I mean, I don't think I'd be naive enough to think that, you know, a lot of those neighborhoods, a lot of those wards, regardless of what situation they're in, would consider voting for Vallis.
But I do think it's a little bit more nuanced, I think, than race.
tim pool
I think that obviously there's a lot of things that play a role.
When you look at the Rogers Park stuff, these are clearly more white areas that are voting for a black man, obviously.
But that falls in line with that there was a study done that shows the different racial breakdowns in their in-group, out-group preference, and white liberal is the only group with an out-group preference.
It makes perfect sense when you look at this.
So these neighborhoods, they probably care to a certain degree about policy.
But I mean, you look at some of these places and it's like, you know, in Ward 18, which is I believe Ford's, it's probably Ford City area.
You've got, actually, let's just do this.
It's, so here we go.
It's Ford City.
You've got 15% or so white population.
And I'm sorry, that's a black population.
It's 27, 22%, you know, percent white.
It really does correlate.
Like, this area is split between white blacks mixed, so you get Lori Lightfoot, then Paul Vallis.
But then you go into the areas that are more heavily black, and it's Lori Lightfoot, Willie Wilson, and Brandon Johnson.
Like, even Johnson is far left.
It seems like race played a bigger role than anything else.
So I'm sure, you could probably say 40% of the vote is due to good policy.
But because of race being a predominant issue for most people, I guess, the way they see the world, that ended up being the dominant factor because that's what manifested in the map.
You can come out and be like, no, no, everyone voted on policy.
And I'm like, yeah, but if you look at the map, it's near one for one with the racial breakdowns of the city and who they voted for.
That's kind of disheartening, isn't it?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Maybe that's just reality, you know?
You can't feel one way or the other about it.
ian crossland
I was thinking the other day, yesterday or today, something like, when we talk about race, like you got, people say white and black is a race, but it's the only ones that aren't like a country, I think.
I mean, there's Latino, but is that a race?
phil labonte
Asians, they're Asian.
ian crossland
Asians are a continent.
Like, so there's a Russian, they're from Russia, or like Caucasian, the Caucasus, then all of a sudden you have black and white, which are like, what?
How's that?
There's black people all over the world from Haiti and from Africa and from, you know, East Asia and things like that.
So, like, what?
I don't know.
I don't understand race.
The whole concept of race is very weird.
tim pool
Let's jump to some pop culture news and something completely off the, I don't know, out of our normal subject range, I guess.
But actually, maybe it's not.
Here's a story from the Daily Mail.
Healing comes first.
Fans send Justin Bieber well wishes as he cancels the remainder of his Justice World tour amid health woes.
That's right.
Did you guys know that his face is paralyzed?
And people are saying that they believe the reason that he's canceling is because he can't use his face anymore.
And they're saying it's Ramsey-Hunt syndrome.
julie kelly
Oh no.
It's really sad.
tim pool
Yeah.
And Phil's giving me this look right now.
phil labonte
You phrased it.
He can't use your face anymore.
tim pool
Oh, I mean, I don't know what he's like.
phil labonte
This is funny to me.
tim pool
So, you know, here's this 29-year-old dude suffering from something, they say, that typically only affects people over the age of 60.
ian crossland
He's still affected by this?
This was like three months ago, I think, he first announced it.
tim pool
This is, I guess, what the- The war.
It's being reported by a bunch of celebrity gossip and outlets.
That's the reason the Ramsey-Hunt syndrome, like where we saw this a while ago, his face was paralyzed.
julie kelly
But what causes it?
tim pool
Well, uh, they're saying it's Ramsey Hunt.
A lot of people thought it was, uh, what, Bell's palsy?
julie kelly
Okay.
tim pool
Caused by probably some kind of medication, perhaps.
Some medication, perhaps, that he was prescribed in order to travel the world.
ian crossland
Maybe an adverse reaction or something like that.
tim pool
Maybe some, yeah, some kind of medication.
But, uh, we don't know for sure.
phil labonte
Recreational use of medication?
tim pool
I mean, that's possible, too, to be honest.
ian crossland
All of the above?
tim pool
But they're saying it's Chickenpox.
They're saying that, and you know, it makes perfect sense, right?
Because we just heard that MSNBC host got pericarditis and myocarditis from the common cold.
So as we know that these very common ailments can cause things like facial paralysis and swelling of the lining around the heart.
It happens all the time.
phil labonte
I've learned a lot since 2020.
That's right!
tim pool
Oh, and heart attacks and strokes are way up among young people, and they're saying that's caused by erythritol.
ian crossland
Oh, I've heard, I've heard.
tim pool
Yeah, all these keto diets.
Chicken eggs.
What was it?
julie kelly
Chicken eggs.
tim pool
Oh, and chicken eggs, they say we're causing that too.
You know, we learned a whole lot about the world, and maybe if we cut out erythritol, chicken eggs, avoid chicken pox and the common cold, these heart attacks, strokes, and pericarditis and myocarditis will stop happening.
I mean, you know, maybe Justin Bieber's cracking raw eggs for breakfast.
He's doing keto diet, so he's eating a lot of egg and he's eating a lot of erythritol.
That explains it.
phil labonte
He should have just stayed in the pod.
He'd have been safe in the pod, man.
tim pool
Well, you know, maybe.
ian crossland
Did he ever say why he thinks he got sick with this?
Did he ever say, like, I had an adverse reaction to something or any of that?
Or did he just say...
tim pool
I don't remember.
I think he said Ramsey Hunt, which they say it's like, oh, he's got chicken pox and the virus hit the nerve in his ear or something and then it paralyzes your face and makes you go deaf or something like that.
julie kelly
Is it permanent?
I don't know.
Like Bell's Palsy, I think you can recover from, right?
Yeah, it's temporary.
tim pool
Yeah, there's like a viral video of some nurse or something that got Bell's Palsy from, I believe, from some sort of vaccination.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure which one.
I'm not sure which one.
julie kelly
Nope.
ian crossland
Just some sort of vaccination, though.
tim pool
But then it goes away.
So it's like temporary paralysis of the face or something like that.
So, you know, I don't know.
I thought it was kind of a big deal that one of the biggest celebrities in the world canceled a world tour.
This is one of the most famous guys.
And it's, you know, what's funny is Eric Clapton's hands got paralyzed.
You remember that?
serge du preez
You don't say.
ian crossland
Yeah, early on in the pandemic.
I don't even like calling it a pandemic, man.
That's so gross.
tim pool
It's just so weird that all of these things are happening around the same time.
You know, I gotta say, talk to a doctor about what's right for you and don't get your medical advice from podcasters, but I honestly think there's a strong possibility the next big domino to fall will be mass vaccination.
Specific mass vaccination, not, you know, I think there's a lot of vaccines that have been around for a long time that have been tested over several decades.
But I wouldn't be surprised if, come 2024, you're gonna see some news come out about Adverse events, the increased risk.
We've already started seeing reports that young people are seeing an increase of risk of myocarditis and pericarditis, despite the fact they're saying it's caused by the common cold or whatever they might say.
And that I wouldn't be surprised if Donald Trump is running for president and they say, oh yeah, you know all these really bad things we're showing you, like Justin Bieber?
Oh no!
Oh, that's Trump's fault.
That was Trump's fault.
phil labonte
Donald Trump's operation.
Yeah, his vaccine.
tim pool
Yep.
phil labonte
Blame his vaccine, they'll blame him.
tim pool
And then they're not going to vote for him.
phil labonte
It was because of Warp Speed.
tim pool
And that's how you convince conservatives not to support Trump.
And then they'll get behind DeSantis.
ian crossland
What do you guys think of Vivek Ramaswamy as a political candidate?
tim pool
I don't think he's going to win, but he seems like an alright dude.
phil labonte
I don't know enough about him to have an opinion.
ian crossland
The reason I bring it up is because I'm absolutely disheartened by the way Donald Trump handled the COVID stuff.
He just handed it off to Fauci in the administrative state and then was like, that's why... He didn't even tell people to go outside and get fresh air or any of that.
tim pool
That's why I think this is the direction things will go.
Something's going to change in the news.
We're already getting the FBI and the DOE saying, well I should say the Department of Energy, saying that lab leak is most likely the case, which is in a sense vindicating for Trump.
But then they're going to come out and they're going to be like, yeah, all of these bad things, that was Trump's fault.
He doubled down.
He wouldn't back off.
Fauci, who lied, lab leak.
Donald Trump, that was under him.
And so what's going to happen?
DeSantis is going to win.
We'll see.
julie kelly
Well, I mean, I was very critical of Trump from the very start, even the 15 days to stop the spread or whatever they called it, flatten the curve.
Highly critical of him and handing over basically the economy.
and the entire government of Fauci and Deborah Birx and using highly flawed models that were
not tested as evidence to continue the lockdowns then into April of 2020. And he really, I mean,
I think he's come out and said he's expressed some regret, but of course he owns Operation
Warp Speed and you have not seen him pull back on that at all, off of that at all.
But DeSantis also did go along with the lockdowns early on.
He went along with some other mitigation factors, including the vaccine.
So his hands are not totally clean.
I mean, he has expressed more regret, I think, and talked about the lessons that he learned.
But look, I was in Florida at the beginning of the lockdown.
I mean, it was locked down and gradually reopening.
And he was signing executive emergency, you know, declarations.
So if they're going to battle over that, I think ultimately DeSantis prevails because he did come around and he did open his state a little bit sooner than others.
tim pool
And that's the, look, the establishment will take a DeSantis over a Trump.
julie kelly
Really?
tim pool
Absolutely.
julie kelly
Democrats I talk to, they hate DeSantis as much as Trump.
I mean, they're gunning for that guy already.
tim pool
They want to win, but they will take a DeSantis over Trump.
You mean like the administrative state?
Yeah, I'm not saying that they're going to come out and be like, I'm voting for DeSantis!
They're going to come out and be like, DeSantis is as bad as Trump.
Then when it comes to the election, they will put everything into helping DeSantis win the primary to stop Trump, because if it came down to Democrats losing, they would prefer DeSantis over Trump.
Easily.
phil labonte
Do you think that, do you think DeSantis, or who do you think is more beatable, Trump or DeSantis?
From a left-leaning perspective.
tim pool
I think, I think, well it's tough right now, right?
DeSantis has an advantage in a lot of ways, but he doesn't really have that X factor that Trump has.
julie kelly
That's right.
tim pool
And the whole East Palestine thing was very, very good for Trump.
ian crossland
Yeah, who's Trump got as his advisors right now?
Because I think Kushner's out and Ivanka is not involved, as far as I can tell.
So who like advised Donald to go to Palestine, East Palestine, or did he make that decision?
julie kelly
My guess is he made it on his own.
I mean, I do think that that's what's part of his charm and success and continues to be, is that he would be the one.
No one would really have to tell him to do that.
You know, he would do it on his own.
In terms of his advisors, I'm not really sure.
ian crossland
I think Vivek Ramaswamy is a serious candidate in that he's actually talking about how to solve the situation, which is to put our economy into, what are they called?
Uh, basically to invest our 401ks into non-woke organizations.
tim pool
Oh, anti-ESG?
ian crossland
Yes.
That is his main thing.
It's not even, he doesn't even, I mean, he is anti-ESG, but he's actually talking about how to succeed.
He's not talking about, let's stop doing ESG.
Like that's part of it, but he's telling you what to do and he's done it.
He's been doing it.
julie kelly
So it's like...
ian crossland
He'd be a fantastic, maybe not a military commander.
I don't know anything about his foreign policy.
But I think if maybe a vice president, because he's a brilliant economist, the vice president doesn't really have a whole lot of a job to actually do.
phil labonte
And someone like Vivek, if he's got good ideas, someone like that might be better off in a an administration position where they're writing policy,
where they're actually crafting the policy. Donald Trump is good, has good gut
instincts, but the things that that had tangible effect on the the economy and and
policy, those were almost all written by other people.
Donald Trump's not a policy guy.
He's a big picture dude.
He's gonna be like, go do this, let's get this done.
The anti-woke executive order that he wrote that he signed that was written by people like James Lindsay and stuff that that knew how to craft policy that will achieve the ends that we want that still is legal and is not straining the law because we really do have a lot of the tools at our disposal to fix a lot of the problems that we have.
So I like Vivek but I don't think that he would I don't know that this alone is enough for me to say that he would make a good president.
ian crossland
It's not exciting.
Nothing about fixing the economy is not exciting.
It's yelling and calling people names and making a big...
phil labonte
The ESG stuff is the most important stuff going right now.
It's not exciting, you're right, but it will have the most impact on society and it's the most important thing to the US right now.
ian crossland
If the economy goes bad, violence will increase.
If you want to stop violence, fix the economy.
If you want to make sure people don't starve and rob each other, fix the economy.
tim pool
You know what Trump needs to do?
I was thinking about that Whatever podcast that keeps getting these viral clips.
It's probably gonna become a massive show.
But, you know, it's got its market cap.
And that joke where someone said, get a bunch of low-wit, narcissistic women and, you know, rag on them and you'll have a great show.
That's the strategy right there for Trump.
Get Democrats who are of low wit and sound really dumb and debate them.
It's why debate Smart people, when you just make yourself look dumb, get in a debate stage with stupid people, and then it makes you look really smart, whether you're smart or not.
You know what I mean?
Like, Trump needs to put himself in positions where he's debating really, really dumb people, so he should offer up conversations with smaller channels and smaller podcasts from the left that would kill for an opportunity at the limelight, but there's a reason why they don't have it.
And I'm only half kidding.
Think about this.
You find a YouTube channel with 50,000, 70,000 subs, leftist liberal, kind of articulate guy or lady, not really that smart.
Trump says, I will do an interview with you.
You then get Trump running circles around a leftist liberal, making them look like a moron.
And those liberals will do it in two seconds because they're like, I'm going to get to interview Trump.
This is going to be huge.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think even if Donald Trump were to come out and look stupid about stuff, it wouldn't, like, stop people from voting for him.
I think people would more appreciate his honesty and openness.
tim pool
Look, he does these interviews with the corporate press all the time.
And they're playing him every time.
It's like he doesn't learn his lesson.
He sits down.
He says, here's what's going on.
I'm going to do these things.
It'll be tremendous.
And they're like, OK, let me write that down.
Trump is Hitler and hates black people.
And we'll run that.
And then Trump goes back again.
Three months later, you wrote a really nasty piece about me, but I'll give you another chance.
Trump, just go find the up-and-comers who are desperate for attention, and then, you know, do those interviews.
ian crossland
What are a few interviews off the top of your head, you know?
Any, what do you mean?
Any, like, that fit the bill?
Are there ones like the, um, whatever?
Well, whatever is huge.
tim pool
It's got like three and a half million.
When you get, like, the guys who run that podcast are clearly smart dudes who have a successful business.
And you put them in a table with a bunch of vapid, low-wit women, they're not going to be on the same level.
So you're going to run circles around them in terms of getting the sound bites that you want.
That's what I'm saying.
Trump sits down with some, like, low-wit liberals, and then they'll say something like, but you were trying to dig up dirt on Joe Biden.
And they'll go, dig up dirt?
Don't you know that Joe Biden withheld a billion dollars in loan guarantees, which is a violation of federal law?
Only Congress has the authority to do that.
You didn't know that, did you?
And they're gonna go, huh?
And then that clip is gonna go viral, and you're gonna have a really dumb, low-wit person, and Trump's gonna be just, ooh.
julie kelly
I'd rather have him do that than keep meeting with Maggie Heberman.
tim pool
Exactly!
What's he doing?
unidentified
Come on!
ian crossland
Who's Maggie Heberman?
tim pool
New York Times, right?
julie kelly
Yeah, and then she wrote a whole book about him.
And also because he met with her, I think, three times in 2021.
tim pool
And he just keeps giving these corporate journalists who are just like, okay, Donald, we're gonna write negative things about you.
Thanks for your time.
And he's like, oh, no.
julie kelly
Well, I mean, I do think that was one of his Achilles heels, is that even though he would go after the media, he still wants their affection.
He still thinks he could win them over and charm them over, even someone like Maggie Haberman, who sticks it in his back every single time.
So has he learned that lesson?
I don't know.
He just met with her numerous times, so not very encouraging.
Just recently?
Mm-hmm.
unidentified
2021.
julie kelly
She wrote an entire book on him.
ian crossland
Man, yeah, we got to get him in here or I'll fly down there to wherever he's at and interview him cuz I gotta know I don't know.
What is his state of mind right now?
Like he wants to run for president.
What what is he is running for?
He is running for president as What's his plans like what's what's his Ukraine status?
What does he want to do?
tim pool
He's been releasing videos.
You should watch them He's got a whole bunch that he's put on truth social Um, they're on Truth, but I think they're being posted other places.
ian crossland
Like policy stuff?
tim pool
Yeah, he like stands up and he'll say something like, the woke left is destroying this country, and then... Not four more years, no!
phil labonte
He does the hand movement too, right?
tim pool
He plays the accordion.
julie kelly
That was really good.
ian crossland
The left and the right, racial politics, divide, divide, like that's the problem.
We gotta not do that this time and do something new.
phil labonte
The racial politics is something that we're going to get regardless of whether it's Donald Trump or whether it's DeSantis or whatever because that is the current operating system of the left is racial politics.
Identity politics, really.
Anytime the left can use identity as a bludgeon tool, they're going to.
ian crossland
But my theory is that you're fighting an alligator underwater.
If you do that, if you play their terms, if you use their words and their definitions, you've lost.
You're fighting with like 180% deficiency value.
You've got like 15% of your strength when you're underwater fighting that thing.
tim pool
That's why Trump needs to stop giving these people the opportunity.
Trump should do more shows like this.
And he should do shows with smaller liberals who are low wit.
Play to your strengths.
Go to friendly territory where you might get some honest criticism and pushback, but you're mostly going to get a real conversation.
And then go to places where people aren't smart enough to deal with you.
And I know the left will clip this out and be like, Tim's incorrect.
Yes, of course.
It's called politics.
It's winning.
Like, Joe Biden hid in his basement the entire campaign.
Like, that dude was clearly not interested in having any real conversation on ideas.
But let me ask you, Julie, while we got you.
Let's move on and talk about weaponization of government.
So one of the big things that's happening with, you know, like Republicans taking Congress is they've got this committee on the weaponization of government.
And you wrote a book about it and what's going on with January 6th.
So I'm curious if you think we're going to get any real resolution moving forward, or are we going to need to see like a sweep of the federal government in 2024 with the Senate, with the White House and the House before we get any real action?
julie kelly
I do think this will be another wedge issue for Trump, aside from the border and the Ukraine war, is, you know, people's just crushing their lack of faith in these Institutions and not just faith in them, but that they are recognizing they are completely corrupt weaponized In a very highly partisan way against the right, you know You went from the FBI going after Donald Trump in 2016 under crossfire hurricane going after his campaign aides and associates and now you have the FBI rounding up a
There's still a thousand more people that they've not yet?
almost a thousand total criminal defendants, most of whom have been charged with low-level
misdemeanors like parading in the Capitol. The DOJ has said that they're going to get up to
2,000 total defendants. The FBI is still investigating.
Still a thousand more people that they've not yet. Wow. They want to get to a total caseload
of at least 2,000.
They are arresting people every week.
The FBI is still investigating, conducting armed raids of homes, you know, taking people out of their homes and off to jail with these trumped up charges.
And so I think that that's going to continue to be a major issue.
You've got at least a hundred men who have been held under pretrial detention orders for their nonviolent, some of them nonviolent offenders, even the ones who are charged with things like vandalizing or assaulting police officers.
I think what we will see and we are seeing is that things like that, scenes like that that came out of January 6th are not as cut and dry as the American people have been led to believe.
And so I think that's why you see this hysteria over the release of Tucker Carlson and I want to commend Kevin McCarthy for this because he did follow up on a promise to release the unreleased footage that was captured by surveillance videos at the Capitol, not just the Capitol building, but other buildings and the surrounding grounds that day that the DOJ and Capitol Police have kept under wraps under strict protective orders, not just from the American people, but also in court, keeping them away from defendants and their own attorneys.
tim pool
Do you think Trump should campaign on pardoning the January 6th defendants?
julie kelly
I mean, I think that he should, yes.
tim pool
I'm wondering if that would resonate effectively with the American people, because I feel like the people who know, for the most part, like there's some bad people who, you know, we're fighting and we're rioting and we're causing violence and, you know, they'll get charged or, you know, they should be penalized and charged for that stuff.
But so many of these people were let in.
The cops opened the door, they fanned them in, and now these people are getting locked up.
That if Trump came out and said, the non-violent offenders from January 6 should not be charged, they've paid their penance, and they should all be pardoned, that would resonate really well with people who know what's going on.
But I wonder if the general public would just be manipulated, and the corporate press would show pictures of January 6 and then say Trump was Pardoning his... Enabling domestic terror.
Exactly.
He's pardoning terrorists because they supported him.
He's a dictator.
And so that's the challenge.
In order to win, does Trump need to...
julie kelly
you know, hold that hold that off. I don't think well, that's a good point. Um, I'm not sure it
would be a campaign issue or a promise that he could make one way or the other. But I do think
that making what the FBI and DOJ has done under the ruse of January 6, and that is unleash this
war on terror against the American right, and continuing to do so that people are waking up
because it's not just the J sixers, it's pro lifers. Now you have someone like Mark Hauk, whose
you know, home was raided by armed FBI agents for a pro life advocate, wasn't charged locally. And
Mary Garland's DOJ stepped in under the FACE Act and charged him with federal crimes.
They've done that with multiple pro-life activists.
Charging them with conspiracy to violate this FACE Act, which is freedom to access basically abortion services, pregnancy centers, whatever you want to call it.
So this is a whole new level of weaponizing this DOJ and FBI against political dissidents, you know, those who are protesting the regime or have viewpoints that are contrary to the regime.
And so to see Chris Wray and Merrick Garland in the past two days insist You know, they accept no culpability that their agencies have been fully weaponized against American citizens to pretend that none of that exists.
They can see what the polls say.
They absolutely live in this alternative.
I mean, I think Chris Wray was belligerent the other night on Fox News whenever Brett Baier would bring it up and give him these examples.
And they're just in complete denial because they can be, because they don't fear any sort of retribution.
You know, 18 Senate Republicans just gave the DOJ a $3.5 billion raise, 570 million of which went to the FBI.
So what do they have to be afraid of?
Nothing.
So I do think that this is another huge wedge issue for Trump.
And I think things are only going to get worse.
And as the tapes come out, as people see the other side of what happened on January 6th, as they see the body cam footage, as they push for records, you know, the January 6th committee did not interview Christopher Wray, the FBI director, did not interview Stephen D'Antuono, who is the head of the Washington field office.
You might remember his name as the architect of the Whitmer Fednapping hoax.
He was running all the intel.
Related to January 6th out of the Washington field office, the January 6th committee never interviews him or Christopher Wray.
And according to the New York Times, the FBI only turned over 2,000 records for January 6th versus the Secret Service that turned over a million.
There's a huge cover-up underway by this FBI.
We're learning more about the number of informants, possibly up to 15 in the Proud Boys, which would mirror the number who were involved in the Whitmer.
Remember, they had like a dozen FBI informants, undercover agents, that many people who were allegedly involved in the kidnapping hoax.
So we're getting a lot more material.
And then all of a sudden the January 6th Committee has disappeared, but members of Congress do have about 100 boxes of materials that the January 6th Committee has kind of abandoned.
So they have a lot of records to go through, a lot of witness transcripts still have not been released.
And this has caused a real problem for defendants who are facing very serious charges like seditious conspiracy, Enrique Tarrio for one, who's on trial for that in DC now.
Because you have potentially exculpatory evidence in these videos and in the records that were turned over, produced by the January 6th committee.
So this is not over by a long shot.
And I know that there are Republicans in Washington who are very serious about looking at all of this, including the Whitmer Fednapping hoax.
tim pool
But it just seems like the only way anything will change is if Republicans win everything.
julie kelly
That's right.
tim pool
So these next couple of years, it's going to be hurry up and wait.
julie kelly
Slogging through subpoenas and records and letters and public testimony like we saw Merrick Garland today.
But they don't have the power of the DOJ, you know, to execute criminal referrals.
So yeah, it will be two years away before anything major can happen.
Very frustrating, especially for the defendants.
ian crossland
Especially for people in solitary confinement.
julie kelly
That's right.
ian crossland
That's like the process is the punishment.
And then they'll be like, okay, fine.
After all is said and done, five years later, they can all go free.
We did it.
We did it, guys.
tim pool
You know, probably shouldn't say this, but we're planning on being in Congress Friday for another show at the Capitol.
And yes, the idea of being floated is to get some squad members, maybe some Democrats.
And I'm just like, you can invite them on, but I'm not going to go easy.
You know, like AOC fabricated that story about January 6th.
That's serious stuff.
julie kelly
She was murdered a few times.
tim pool
And that story she told, she made it up.
julie kelly
Yes, she did.
ian crossland
I'll be on her side on that.
In that, when you're in a situation where you feel like you're under a lot of pressure, your memory can go haywire.
tim pool
That's right, Ian.
Literally right after the event, she forgot what happened that day.
julie kelly
She forgot she wasn't even in the Capitol building.
phil labonte
Ian's right.
I'm against all of the times that AOC was murdered.
I disavow all of them.
julie kelly
Every single one.
phil labonte
Every last one.
ian crossland
Hope this is a great idea.
You know, if we're going to heal this country, it's how we do it.
julie kelly
You know what, though?
If you do have a chance to interview any of them, you should ask them about this dual system of justice.
And where have they been not speaking out?
You know, these are the criminal justice reformers.
You know, no cash bail and people shouldn't be held.
You know, denied bail, etc.
And they've been completely silent.
It would be great to confront them and say, don't you think that these people are due the same due process rights, presumption of innocence, etc., that you asked for, for actual criminals, not people who walked into a public building on Wednesday afternoon.
phil labonte
I completely agree with you.
And I also want to take one second to point to one of the opening arguments, or one of the opening remarks, I forget who made it.
But he pointed out that the FBI has gone from being a law enforcement agency to an intelligence agency, essentially.
And the United States is not supposed to have a domestic intelligence agency.
The CIA is supposed to be prohibited from operating here in the U.S.
The NIA, the DNI and stuff, they're supposed to be prevented from operating in the United States.
And the FBI is also not supposed to be I put a poll up right now asking should I go light on AOC if it means she'd come on the show.
tim pool
And what I mean, let me clarify, If I was actually going to sit down and interview AOC, I would go pretty heavy.
I'd question the Green New Deal.
I would explain how she had my support before she wrote it up, because I care about infrastructure, but this bill was critical race theory.
I would question her on the fabrication of that story.
That she claimed, they knocked on the door, where is she, where is she, oh my god, they made it here.
Except that story took place an hour before anyone breached the Capitol.
Maybe she has a real answer for it.
But there's a potential in the negotiations in getting her on the show.
I'm not saying she wants to come on the show.
I'm not saying she's ever been asked.
I'm saying I've got people in the Capitol saying we would like to extend an invite to them.
If they come back to me and say, squad members have agreed to come on the show, but these topics are off limits.
You can talk policy, you can talk establishment and current events, but no one wants to talk about their personal, you know, issues or whatever.
Should I say yes to that?
ian crossland
No.
tim pool
So then we just don't have him on the show?
ian crossland
No, definitely not.
If people aren't willing to talk about things, then they shouldn't come on the show.
phil labonte
You say yes, and then you ask them whatever the hell you want, and then when they get up and storm out like Kanye, you just throw your hands up in the air as a victory.
tim pool
That's dishonorable.
phil labonte
You think so?
tim pool
Absolutely.
Look, if I have a leftist come to me, and they say, I'm gonna tell you stuff that's off the record, and they tell me some pretty bad stuff, I keep it off the record.
If someone says, I will come and sit with you and talk about policy, I'll talk about January 6th, I'll talk about the vote for McCarthy, I'll talk about the current bills in Congress, I will not talk about my involvement or my story.
Like, if AOC said, I won't talk to you about my story on Instagram, and if you bring it up, I'm out, then I would say, then we won't talk about it.
Should I do it?
ian crossland
I don't think so.
If it was private information that no one knew, definitely we do not talk about that stuff.
But it's public data.
It's up for debate.
It's up for discussion.
phil labonte
I think it's probably worth getting them on the show.
I think agreeing to certain things that they don't want to discuss is, if you say it beforehand, I mean, in my opinion, you should, if that were to happen, you should make it known to the audience, these are the things that they won't talk about, so I can't, I'm not gonna ask them, and then go into it with the audience knowing, because then the audience knows what the politician said, no, I won't talk about.
tim pool
We have people who, Say they'll come on the show, but they don't wanna talk about something.
This happens all the time.
People will be like, I really don't wanna talk about religion.
And then I'll be like, okay, we won't.
However, that's not a specific thing, right?
So in the issue of AOC, so when I get asked like, hey, should we, like the people in Capitol Building know her people, they'll ask her, and I'm like, there's no way she'll do it.
Because the first thing I'm gonna do is gonna be like, yo, that story on January 6th, you made that up.
That's not a real story.
And that's serious stuff.
Maybe she's got an explanation.
Maybe she can explain it away.
unidentified
Right.
julie kelly
What will likely happen is they'll just say no.
January 6th and just not bring that up.
But you think they'll come back and say she will, except she doesn't want to talk about
the time she was murdered.
tim pool
Right.
Okay.
What will likely happen is they'll just say no.
And the reason they'll say no is because they know I'm gonna say, hey, remember that story
you told on Instagram for 45 minutes where you claimed people knocked on your door
and you thought they were coming to kill you, but that happened an hour before
the building had been breached?
Did you know the building was going to be breached?
And if not, why did you fabricate a story claiming you thought people were coming to kill you when you couldn't have known the building was going to be breached?
I guess the other answer is she knew in advance before anyone else, including security, that they were going to breach the building.
That's why she was scared.
Or the reality is she made up a story for the internet to get clicks and likes.
We're gonna go to Super Chats, but I'm gonna do something else first.
I'm gonna play this video for you because it's awesome.
I saw this retweeted, I can't remember who retweeted it.
It's, uh... Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.
Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery, Sir Winston Churchill.
And this is Rebecca Paul in Surrey, telling a story, two minutes long, and you're gonna love it.
Let's play it.
Oh, can you set the audio?
Here we go, you guys ready?
unidentified
Let me tell you a scary story.
tim pool
This is good.
unidentified
An economics professor at a local college made a statement that she had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class.
The class had insisted that socialism worked, that no one would be poor and no one would be rich.
A great equalizer.
The professor then said, OK, we will have an experiment in this class.
All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade.
No one will fail, but no one will receive an A either.
After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy.
As the second test rolled round, the students who studied little studied even less.
And the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too, so they studied little.
The second average test result was a D. No one was happy.
When the third test rolled round, the average was an F. As the test proceeded, the scores never improved.
As bickering, name-calling and blame all resulted in hard feelings.
And no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.
To their great surprise, all failed.
And the professor told them that socialism would ultimately fail.
Because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great.
When the government takes away all the reward, no one will try or want to succeed.
And that is socialism, my friends.
A race to the bottom.
tim pool
That was great.
That was a really great video.
Probably never happened, but if I was a teacher, I would totally do that.
If I was like at college and I had a bunch of lefty, socialist kids, I'd be like, alright, we're gonna average all your grades out, and then I'm gonna put it, they will, here's the thing, I bet if you told that to some socialist, they would be like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't do that.
Because then it's like, you're gonna have this forever, and your college transcripts or whatever, that you failed.
It's all you, baby.
phil labonte
Someone in chat just noticed, or just mentioned a song that I wrote about socialism, so cheers to that.
Oh, yeah?
tim pool
What was that?
phil labonte
The song's called Wasteland.
tim pool
That describes it.
We're gonna go to Super Chats.
If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and become a member over at TimCast.com.
We're gonna have a members-only live show coming up.
Goes up around, excuse me, 10-10 p.m.
We are just trying out.
There's no Discord yet.
We are working on a live chat system, but I guess we're not gonna do Discord because everyone's saying we'll get banned anyway.
So, okay.
Then we won't.
We will find some other system.
But let's read some Super Chats.
We got I'm Not Your Buddy Guy.
He says, look up the story on the Maricopa County Election Oversight Committee with Jacqueline Berger reveals the Sinaloa cartel.
Sinaloa Cartel being involved in bribing officials, laundering their drug and trafficking money through fake real estate purchases and fake identities.
These fake identities were then used to manipulate the election results in re-electing those who are not in on the money laundering, including their staff, which has totaled, I think, more than $18 billion.
It was always about the money.
We should have seen it from the start.
That being said, I'm not your buddy guy mentions from Gateway Pundit, but I do not find the Gateway Pundit to be credible at all.
They falsely claimed that George Soros endorsed Ron DeSantis, which he didn't.
And that kind of fake news really pisses me off, so take it all with a grain of salt, I suppose.
All right.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Tim, Zelensky can shut his dumb mouth.
Ain't no way the American people will be okay with sending our kids to die in some BS foreign war.
Protests of the 60s will have nothing on protests of tomorrow.
Perhaps.
I'm not so sure I agree.
What do you guys think?
ian crossland
I think there will be a lot more armed protesters if that was to come ahead in the present.
In the 60s you saw a lot of people standing out there without guns.
This time there will be guns.
phil labonte
You know how many bombs were mailed in the 60s and 70s?
But like mail mail bombs were were happening very frequently in the United States.
It was I don't want to say a normal thing, but like it was not a peaceful time.
And even with the George Floyd riots in 2020, the the new cultural revolution, if you want to call it that here in the U.S., is still not as violent as the late 60s and early 70s were.
ian crossland
We just got a lot more cameras now.
phil labonte
Yeah.
You just you can see it a lot more.
But.
There were a lot of people that were mailing a lot of bombs and a lot of those people are no longer in jail and they're teaching in schools.
Yikes!
tim pool
Alright, Cubicle Investor says, Tim and Ian, did you see that Magic the Gathering is releasing a Lord of the Rings set?
They race-swapped Aragorn to be more inclusive and people are complaining that it ruins the lore.
Thoughts?
ian crossland
Yeah, I have a lot of them.
No, I don't think I've seen that.
Lord of the Rings.
I kind of am of the opinion that I don't care what skin color fantasy characters have, I never really have, unless it has something to do with this character specifically.
Like, he's a slave from 1820 in the United States, children of a slave, and then they make him like a white guy or an Asian guy and be like, well, what's, you know.
If he was like, this is a black slave from the 1820s, and then they make him a white guy, I'd be like, I'm confused now.
But essentially, I don't care.
I don't care who fake Aragorn is, really.
I hope the set's not too busted.
tim pool
We're trying to load the images, but they're not loading.
phil labonte
Aragorn is the ranger guy, right?
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah, he's the king.
The return of the king.
Spoiler alert if you haven't seen that.
tim pool
Oh, wow, yeah, he's just a black dude.
Yeah, here.
serge du preez
Oh, nice.
tim pool
It's like not even swarthy, like it's just literally outright Aragorn is just outright black.
ian crossland
They should have, maybe they probably didn't have the money to get, what's his name?
tim pool
The faces of... It's just so weird that, like, someone sat down and said, alright, let's do Aragorn, and the guy goes, make him black.
And they're like, you got it!
ian crossland
It's Hasbro!
Dude, this company owns D&D and Magic now.
It's this multinational corporation.
Who owns Hasbro?
Somebody owns Hasbro.
tim pool
Well, good for them, I guess.
Greg Cutler says, please have Ben Davidson from Suspicious Observers on your show.
He said he'd love to if invited.
We'll take a look.
We'll take a look.
Steven Sayy says, when the balloon passed over my house, TikTok was loaded on my phone against my will.
No one has addressed this.
Strange, strange.
ian crossland
Have you guys talked about the government banning TikTok?
Did you talk about that last night?
tim pool
They're getting ready to ban it, right?
ian crossland
Yeah, they're preparing to ban it from all government devices in the next 30 days.
phil labonte
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that at all.
If I understand correctly, they're talking about banning it from government devices.
They're not prohibiting government employees from having their own device that has TikTok on it.
And it's not like they're telling people they can't bring their own phone to work at a government installation or whatever.
tim pool
They should ban it outright.
phil labonte
I think it's fine.
tim pool
Ban it outright.
ian crossland
If it's on your phone.
tim pool
I'm banned from it.
And that's not fair.
So we should just, the country should ban it.
Donald Trump should go in and executive order ban it.
phil labonte
Get him.
tim pool
Well, I do think they should ban it because it is Chinese manipulation.
It's fifth generational warfare.
And you're getting a bunch of weird, I mean, there's a libs of tic-tac account for a reason.
Not in China.
unidentified
True.
tim pool
Mao Dib says, we should write in Ukraine as a dependent on our taxes.
serge du preez
Nice.
tim pool
Haha, that's a good point.
All right, what do we got?
Waffle Sensei says, well, at least we can rest assured that Biden didn't give Putin a list of all our most critical infrastructure.
Am I right?
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
ian crossland
What targets not to attack.
tim pool
Please don't do this.
Here are the things that are off limits.
You know, don't blow these things up.
And he's like, are you serious?
ian crossland
Hit the Nord Stream.
Like what?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
All right.
IAM says we have forever wars because narcissists can't contribute to the economy, so we made an artificial one that never ends, and fortunately requires loss of life to achieve their goal.
That's what I'm talking about!
These whiny, hipster liberal types who don't have to work because we have guns and bombs, and I'm just like, you know, I'd be happier if our economy wasn't as strong as it was.
Now, I should say this.
The economy should be strong, But it's weirdly, falsely inflated right now.
You should work hard, but make enough to have a family, to buy a house, to save for your family's, your kid's future and things like that.
But now what we have is hard-working people working in factories making 20 bucks an hour, and fat, body-positive influencers getting paid millions of dollars to eat Ben & Jerry's every night.
Like something's wrong with that, you know what I mean?
All right.
The KL Tanker says, I've been wondering why instead of making laws that citizens sue to see if they are constitutional, why not have a ruling on constitutionality before apply and three strikes to the members who propose unconstitutional bills?
That's a good idea.
The idea should be that after Congress passes a law, it should go to the Supreme Court immediately, who should then weigh in on the constitutionality of it, and if they do, it can get signed into effect by the executive.
Yeah, we should do that.
That should be what the Supreme Court does.
ian crossland
Do they just keep the judicial system separate for separation of power?
tim pool
Yeah, but it's like they pass a law, and then you have to sue the government to challenge it, and then it goes to the court?
So, like, the government is allowed to do unjust things until you convince them they're not?
phil labonte
I would run that by a constitutional lawyer, but on its face, that actually does sound like a good idea.
I haven't put a whole lot of thought into it to find the holes or whatever, but that seems reasonable to me.
tim pool
Hillbillory Clinton says, flag behind Phil is crooked, might as well turn it upside down instead of fixing it though, because our country is for sure in distress.
It's not crooked.
serge du preez
It's not.
Yeah, I answered that earlier.
It's not crooked, it just looks crooked from the angle of the cameras, guys.
tim pool
Is that what it is?
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
Because if you look at the trim on the wall, you can see it's perfectly lined up.
ian crossland
The Timcast behind Julia's is crooked, but it looks straight.
It looks straight.
tim pool
Oh, does it?
Yeah, it does.
Because the nails busted on it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It looks straight.
serge du preez
I mean, I guess, like, I can adjust to make it crooked and then make it look straight to you guys.
We'll see.
tim pool
Yeah, well, you know.
Amenthy says, if a draft over Ukraine is ever entertained, I can see nationwide rage and noncompliance, but the left will still not learn a single lesson.
Agreed.
ian crossland
After they volunteer and go get their legs blown out, blown off, they will.
tim pool
Folk hero Alex Jones says Glenn Beck interviewed Trump about Ukraine this week, and when asked what he would do, he said we are close to World War III, but he loves Zelensky because of Ukrainegate.
Trump's ego can be used to extend this war.
I don't know.
I didn't see that.
Is DeSantis gonna end the war?
I cut off, you know, our funding of it.
ian crossland
I think Zelensky, like, objectively is has been a fantastic war leader.
If you think he didn't flee, he had the opportunity to run away right in the beginning and give it up.
And he chose to stay.
And I think that was his choice.
I mean, obviously, he had the backing of NATO, we that we didn't know publicly, but, you know, he's doing his charismatic duty.
So I'm not too hard on people that say he's doing a good job for who he is and where he is.
I just don't like where he is.
I don't like that the situation.
tim pool
Meatball Motivate says, in the event of nuclear war, all that remains is Phil LaBonte, and as I lay dying, I hear him say, kill switch engage, in a disturbed voice, as America, though in flames, is avenged sevenfold.
Wow.
ian crossland
Is all that remains, was that like a nihilistic thing about the end of the liberal economic order when you were creating it?
phil labonte
No, back then it was, I really put The only thought that I put into it was, this sounds cool, and I don't think there's another band with that name.
That was it.
All the cool one-word names were taken up.
Slayer is gone.
tim pool
All right, what do we got?
PZF says, today a 16 year old student was stabbed to death at a high school in my town.
I live in California.
It's getting really ugly out there, out here.
Yeah, it certainly is.
And that's why I think a lot of these woke DAs are going to get booted out.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like we're seeing Lori Lightfoot.
People are not happy with the crime, man.
All right, Cody, Justin Fanon says, it's funny how the left stands against Nazis when they want to send money to Ukraine.
Haha!
Or they stand with them, I guess.
That one's funny.
ian crossland
I just want to point out in chat, Blobmonster, I think, gave me about ten ones, which actually means he gave me a ten.
So keep them coming, buddy.
tim pool
Ten ones?
ian crossland
I think so.
tim pool
All right, Christopher Hunter says everyone should tweet their governor and ask if the federal government gives orders to your state's National Guard to go fight in a frivolous war, will they order the National Guard to defy federal orders and stay home?
Interesting question.
It only matters in election season though, so they might be like, elections not for two years, shut up!
And then good luck.
What do we got here?
Sekur says, Happy first day of Women's History Month.
I'd tell you what it's about, but I'm not a biologist.
March is Women's History Month?
serge du preez
Yeah, whatever that means.
julie kelly
What?
I just saw that too.
unidentified
Since when?
tim pool
That deeply offends me because my birthday's in March.
serge du preez
Yeah, true.
Wouldn't you call it Herstory Month, though, guys?
ian crossland
Yeah.
serge du preez
Come on.
tim pool
Herstory?
serge du preez
Missed opportunity there.
ian crossland
It's about great women through history.
They talk a lot about the Founding Fathers.
I think the Founding Mothers don't get enough attention.
Martha Washington.
Others like Adams.
Abigail Adams.
serge du preez
What about Betsy Ross, man?
ian crossland
She sewed the flag.
julie kelly
Her flag is now considered an icon of domestic terrorism.
unidentified
I know.
julie kelly
FBI bulletin list.
phil labonte
I literally have the Betsy Ross flag on my arm right here.
unidentified
You better be careful where you wear it.
phil labonte
I can't take the arm off.
Screw off.
tim pool
Ducheneau says, Nixon claimed the plan was to invade China after conquering Vietnam.
Maybe the government is still thinking about it.
I really doubt it, man.
We don't have the resources for a ground invasion.
phil labonte
In Vietnam?
ian crossland
In China.
Why were they in Vietnam?
I don't think it was just to stop communism.
Must have been oil.
Maybe the invasion of China.
I don't know.
tim pool
Stop communism.
That's why we're still in Korea.
phil labonte
Yeah.
ian crossland
That's what they said.
They said it was about our freedom in the Middle East, too.
It was never about the freedom, it was about the resources.
phil labonte
It was about stopping communism.
ian crossland
And there's a lot of Malaysian oil.
The Trans-Pacific Partnership was trying to get us to, the Investor State Dispute Settlement Clause in that was trying to get us to become able to be sued by Malaysian oil companies.
phil labonte
The Soviet Union had been absorbing countries for decades after the end of the Cold... or
after the end of the Second World War, and the United States truly believed that the...
that it was called the Domino Theory, that countries were going to fall one by one to
communism and it... like, there was a lot of the wars that really were about stopping
communism because communism is a global ideology, right?
So to have true communism, you have to have global communism.
That's why when you talk to communists, they'll continuously say real communism has never been tried.
There have been socialist countries, but we haven't had communism because we don't have communism until it's global.
So that's part of the ideology of communism, and that is what the United States was actually fighting against.
The ideology Duh is expansive, and they were literally taking country after country.
That's what the Cold War was about, was preventing the global takeover of communism.
tim pool
Sixth Emperor Tyrannus says, Hey Tim, Matt Brainard's organization, Look Ahead America, got banned from Discord.
They moved over to Gilded.
So we'll take a look at Gilded!
And we won't support Discord.
serge du preez
It's on the list, yo.
tim pool
Is it the same thing, basically, or what?
serge du preez
From what I understand.
I've heard about it before.
Yeah, we'll look into it.
tim pool
Lord Joseph Cole says, please fix the flag behind Phil.
It is crooked and driving me nuts.
It's literally not crooked.
I don't know what to tell you, man.
phil labonte
I'm gonna do the show like this.
tim pool
I'm looking at it and I'm like...
I mean, maybe a millimeter?
ian crossland
So it looks like it's tilted to the left, like, to the left five degrees or something?
Counterclockwise?
tim pool
No, now it's crooked.
ian crossland
Now it'll be more crooked.
tim pool
Now it's still crooked.
ian crossland
Wait, wait, you might have done it down.
julie kelly
No, no, I think that's right.
tim pool
I feel like it's... Now it's crooked, for sure.
serge du preez
It's crooked in the normal frame.
tim pool
You gotta pull it down a little bit.
serge du preez
That's right, that's right.
Keep going a little more.
tim pool
A little bit more.
ian crossland
That's looking good.
Yeah.
serge du preez
There's good.
Yeah.
phil labonte
Boom.
serge du preez
Okay.
It's fixed.
Leave me alone.
tim pool
That's where it was.
ian crossland
The grains on the walls are not horizontally straight.
If you look closely.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, yeah, but the bottom of the trim is, and I'm like, I'm looking at the flag.
It's like, I think it's the camera angle makes the flag look like it's not straight or something.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
All right, where are we at?
ian crossland
Where we got some... I was gonna make a really off-color joke about gender ideology.
All right.
When you hold the flag not being straight.
tim pool
Stevie VV says, why is there a green velociraptor in the village south of Little Village on the map?
Are they saying that the ward map of Chicago looks like it has a little dinosaur on it?
serge du preez
I think Godzilla is attacking Chicago.
tim pool
Well, how about that?
serge du preez
That's just in.
tim pool
Ginger McIsaac says the correct answer to all census surveys is human.
I have answered like this for years.
Checked into a doctor's office, they asked what race I was.
I told her human.
She then asked, so if you were filling out the census, other human.
Yeah?
What race are you?
Human race.
Okay.
phil labonte
I'm the 50 meter.
unidentified
Yes.
phil labonte
It's the race, the 50 meter.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yes, that's right.
David A says, the left in a nutshell.
Nine dishonorable Romulan destroyers attacked one honorable Klingon battleships.
Who had more firepower?
I don't know.
ian crossland
Whoever shot first.
tim pool
We've got a really, really great Star Trek bit in the next Cast Castle that I can't say because it'll ruin the joke, but it's so funny.
It's actually really funny.
I'll just put it this way.
We're going to be using a whole lot of deep fakes.
We can basically have anybody we want in our shows now.
phil labonte
So good.
tim pool
And we are going to have them all.
That's right.
It's gonna be very fun.
And, uh, you know, I don't know.
We'll see what happens.
phil labonte
All right, what do we got here?
tim pool
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Tim, dude, the way you talk about the jab issues lately and how you tweet, super sarcastic undertones if I didn't know better.
phil labonte
No, poke good.
tim pool
We'll see, man.
I don't know.
I'm not a doctor.
I ain't no doctor.
But I can tell you this, the conspiracy theorists have been literally right about everything.
There's a funny meme.
You know the meme of the guy spraying champagne on himself, but he's in like eighth place?
unidentified
Yeah, that's so funny.
tim pool
It's that meme, but he's in first place, and it says conspiracy theorists, and he's number one.
He's like, ah!
phil labonte
100%.
Conspiracy theorists.
100%.
tim pool
But the funny thing is, it's like they're not conspiracy theorists.
It's like a regular person says, oh, that's strange.
I wonder if that virus came out of that lab.
And they're like, you're a conspiracy theorist.
ian crossland
Yeah, by using the term conspiracy theorists, they lump it in with people that think the earth is flat.
serge du preez
Yeah, exactly.
phil labonte
It's like, oh, I wonder if it came out of that lab.
Racist?
unidentified
Really?
ian crossland
Like, what?
tim pool
Joe Spinella says my grandfather is from the south side of Chicago, back when they had two professional football teams, and he's an FDR Democrat, but he would tell me during elections he would play both sides and get paid putting up and tearing down campaign posters.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
Crazy.
Where are we at?
Objective 704 says, update on the VTuber that was bullied by trans activists.
She's quitting.
She's a sweet half-Japanese girl living in Japan.
No quarters for trans activists.
Long live the kettle.
That's a really sad story.
These people are really, really mean and basically harassed this woman into quitting her job.
So, you know, figuratively no quarter.
These people should be condemned for being such nasty, awful people and causing harm.
We're playing Harry Potter, which is like one of the most popular games right now made like a billion dollars.
Everybody's playing it.
I'm playing it.
You know, I'm in Slytherin, by the way.
But it's really dumb because you basically choose which house you want to be in.
And so the other thing, too, is your character can be any gender.
You can make a male character and then give it a female voice or a female character, the male voice, and you can put in whatever dorm you want.
And so like they're calling the game transphobic and I'm like you can literally make like a petite five-foot dainty feminine woman with a deep voice and then put her in the men's dorm room and like the game lets you do all of it.
It's so weird.
phil labonte
As soon as you could like customize avatars in video games all of my friends made the most ridiculous clown looking characters.
Like in San Andreas, you could make that, you could put the clown hair on him.
They always looked as ridiculous as possible, you know?
And now it's like people want to do that in real life.
ian crossland
How do you make your guys, I always make my guys look like me for the most part.
phil labonte
I make them look ridiculous.
ian crossland
Unless it takes too long and then I just take the default.
tim pool
Well, no, the new GTA, it's going to be a lady who's committing all these crimes.
phil labonte
Yeah.
Can she get fat?
tim pool
Probably.
phil labonte
It would be hilarious if she was like, if you could get a junkie.
tim pool
You can, you can and all of them can.
phil labonte
Because you could get jacked, you could lift weights and get jacked in San Andreas.
So it would be awesome if you could just like go, like keep going to like the pizza place and continuously gain weight.
tim pool
All right.
ian crossland
That's slower.
tim pool
Here we go.
ian crossland
That'd be awesome.
Certain cars you can't get into.
tim pool
David Toronto says, Trump isn't Biden.
He can actually produce coherent thoughts on his own.
Haha.
Reepy Cheap says, apparently Lori Lightfoot blames her loss on those tricks and herbitses.
Yeah.
Uh, she does look like Gollum.
We could maybe do a bit with the Gollum voice, Andy Serkis, for, uh, what's her name?
Jacinda?
Is that the lady from New Zealand?
ian crossland
Jacinda Arden, yeah.
tim pool
Arden?
That progression photo.
She's turning into Gollum.
Man.
That's so good.
phil labonte
Trixie Robertses!
tim pool
You stole it from us!
I love that.
unidentified
That's a really, really good goal.
tim pool
Yeah, we should, we should make fun of people and call them golem more often.
All right, where we at?
James Madison's Ghost says, when COVID started China, when COVID started, China welded people into their homes.
Scary.
Trump asked Fauci and the establishment what to do, and they said lockdowns and vax ASAP.
Trump did that, wrong move, but he acted in a populist manner.
ian crossland
You know, when they first started, they just flew a bunch of people out of the country.
They tried to spread it.
I don't know.
It looked like they were totally cool keeping it open.
They call it COVID-19 because it was in 2019 that it started.
tim pool
People are saying I did a really good Lori Lightfoot impression.
ian crossland
Yeah, that got on the spot, dude.
You gotta make that.
tim pool
The Lori Lightfoot impression?
ian crossland
Yeah, your Lori Lightfoot is number one.
tim pool
Yeah, my Lori Lightfoot.
So I can do my Nancy Pelosi.
And maybe I should need Seamus' help to have Lori Lightfoot-Nancy Pelosi debate.
unidentified
And after that, she promotes me talking to Lori Lightfoot.
tim pool
That's how she sounds.
I mean, I intentionally make it sound awful, but, you know, I enjoy it.
All right, Jash Beam says, Hast thou espied the malevolent buffoonery Ubisoft hath commenced wherein hate speech is reported to the constabularity in Europe, methinks Insanity, as such spreads only from complete lunacy?
ian crossland
This is like voice chat when you're playing an Ubisoft game is being recorded and sent to British police.
Is that what you're saying?
tim pool
Is that what they're doing?
ian crossland
I don't know.
I think I've heard this that they're monitoring voice chat.
phil labonte
Is the British police?
ian crossland
I don't know.
serge du preez
UK police?
tim pool
The constabulary?
serge du preez
Constabulary, yeah.
phil labonte
I've never been more thankful for the Atlantic Ocean.
tim pool
Are you talking about the UK?
serge du preez
Yeah, I think so.
tim pool
Noah Zork says, talk about Trump's aggressive weird TikToks.
What is that?
Is Trump on TikTok or something?
julie kelly
I have not seen him on TikTok.
tim pool
I don't know what you're talking about.
Daniel Kalinowski says, the irony of saying trumped up charges
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
with all the false allegations raised during 45's reign.
I know it's like a reverse slang term.
Like, you know, normally if, you know, Trump did something you'd say pulling a Trump would be, you know,
like pulling an Ian or something.
It's like a thing related to what Ian would do.
But now it's actually inverse.
Trumped up charges have always been the idiom.
And now that Trump is facing trumped up charges, it's like retroactively applying his name to the phrase.
serge du preez
What do you say about a trump card now?
Like what's a trump card?
Is it still a trump card?
To pull a trump card?
Is that like... I don't know.
phil labonte
Yeah.
It's something that a leftist would be upset about.
unidentified
Yeah.
I don't know.
serge du preez
That's a cancelable term now, I assume.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Constantine Thomas says, my fiancé wants to make you guys a free flag for your set.
KRW Creations, let her know what you would like.
I don't know, a big chicken or something?
serge du preez
Be cool, actually.
tim pool
Roberto Jr.
We have that stand your ground flag.
It's Roberto Jr.
holding up his wings, you know, because roosters will sacrifice themselves to save the hens.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Rooster.
julie kelly
That would be a cool flag though.
tim pool
We have it downstairs.
julie kelly
Oh yeah.
tim pool
We sell it.
We sell it on our website.
You can get it.
So it's kind of like the Gadsden flag, but it's like yellow and it's got the rooster.
It's important for everybody who doesn't know, but if there's a bunch of chickens and they're like grazing and like a fox is coming up, the rooster will charge the fox knowing it will die to give the hens a chance to escape.
phil labonte
You've been around chickens to know that.
tim pool
I have known this for a long time.
The noble rooster.
And it's I'm telling you like.
To call someone a chicken is inappropriate.
phil labonte
Saying that a chicken knows anything is a stretch of what the word knowing means.
tim pool
I mean, the reason that the animals run away from predators is because they know they'll die.
So when the rooster chooses to run towards it, it's like, I'm gonna die, but I'm gonna try and let the hens escape.
So we have a video of Roberto back when he was there.
Now it's Roberto Jr., his son.
Roberto's off at Cocktown, and a hawk or something swooped down, And Roberto ran and then waited outside the coop for the girls to go in before he went in.
Yeah, man.
And so roosters, the noble chicken, has more honor and bravery than most people in this country.
Come on.
Can't even be as brave as a rooster?
Chicken's an understatement.
unidentified
Jeez.
tim pool
But there's a lot of people in this country who are like the noble rooster.
You know, willing to run into burning buildings, brave the line of fire to save people, fight in wars.
Whether, you know, we trust the government or not, they're trying to do the right thing for their community and for their country.
So, you know, some Americans are like roosters, but not enough of them.
unidentified
Not enough.
tim pool
Laura Hen says, dropped out of college to go on my own as a t-shirt salesman.
Trying to change culture with cool stuff that isn't the boomer weird text shirts.
Would love to send y'all some.
My Etsy is Revolutionary People.
Cool.
Someone want to write that down?
ian crossland
Do it.
Yeah, we actually have a P.O.
box.
I think it's still active.
serge du preez
I'm gonna write it down, too.
tim pool
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Tim, I'll donate to a leftist cause for AOC on IRL.
Like, if the idea was we would come on and talk about current news and not past culture war issues pertaining to each other, fine.
Right?
ian crossland
Like, is that... Yeah, if we got past the crap, she'd be one of the best guests of all time.
We just constantly have her on.
It'd be so awesome.
tim pool
I don't know about that.
ian crossland
Because we disagree.
That's part of the... Or, like, I don't even know if I disagree.
I just want to find out.
tim pool
But we need, like, stark opposing voices to triangulate.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Someone will be like, hey, like especially if someone's from, like in Congress, they're going to be like, hey, we're going to, we've had this several times.
We're going to come on this date.
They book it.
And then like two days before they're like, they're doing a vote.
We're not going to be able to make it.
We're going to be stuck.
So sorry.
Have a nice day.
And if we announce it, you know, but the other reason is some of these guests will start getting attacked.
And so then they'll just panic.
unidentified
And then, you know, they'll be like, I don't want to, Oh no, I'm scared.
tim pool
Redrum Max says, bring AOC and Alex Stein together.
You see, no, here's the thing.
There's got to be a good faith effort to have a sit down conversation.
That's kind of my point.
ian crossland
Once we become friends, then we can have Alex and Alex and it'll be like, oh my God, we're more human than we realize.
tim pool
I don't, I don't, I don't see that.
julie kelly
I don't see that happening.
ian crossland
I do.
And I'm a visionary.
julie kelly
Really?
ian crossland
We can do anything.
That would be really funny.
tim pool
I just, I'll put it this way.
I don't think there's any agreement that would result in someone like AOC coming on this show.
The people will go to her and say, hey, would you want to come on?
There's going to be these people, and you're welcome to come, too.
ian crossland
I think so.
tim pool
And their staff is going to say, do not do it.
ian crossland
It's the Green New Deal, because if we really do start pulling carbon out of the air and making graphene with it and create an industrial revolution, that's something I think we can all use as a groundswell.
serge du preez
Oh, you mean the Green Leap Forward?
unidentified
The Green Leap Forward, that's good.
ian crossland
I mean, if we're going to put government funds into the infrastructure, we should.
tim pool
We should make that shirt.
serge du preez
Yeah, that'd be cool.
tim pool
The Green Leap Forward.
serge du preez
I'd wear that every day.
phil labonte
I would wear that.
tim pool
Yep.
What would it say though, like, oppose the Green Leap Forward or something?
Uh... No, it would be in favor of it.
serge du preez
Yeah, it'd have to be like a bunch of cool people you don't like.
tim pool
We gotta put AOC in a Chinese Communist or like Soviet outfit or whatever.
Chinese Communist looking like Mao.
serge du preez
Yeah, definitely.
tim pool
And then it would be like the Green Leap Forward, you know.
serge du preez
I'm all for it, that'd be great.
Maybe Greta will wear one.
tim pool
Let's grab some more super jets!
DDMegaDoodoo says you should just put Seamus's Mexican flag up behind Phil.
His holiday is coming up.
You mean, wait, Seamus's Irish flag?
It's funny because Seamus is from Chicago, but he puts an Irish flag up.
I'm like, Seamus, I know you're Irish.
People can hear your name, but you're from the United States.
serge du preez
That's funny.
tim pool
Yeah, well, you know, I just did some lines for Seamus again.
What?
ian crossland
That sounded like cocaine there for a second, bro.
What?
I just did some lines is what he said.
tim pool
Voice acting lines.
ian crossland
Bring me back.
tim pool
Cristiano says, Tim's beanie is crooked.
Fix it, please.
No, it's actually pretty good.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
It's actually pretty alright.
It's actually, I'm actually doing good.
Alright, what do we got here?
Henry Vail says, got membership to say this, y'all should read the prologue of Hugh Benson's Lord of the World, book greatly describes the 1900s and Marxist social progression, has a lot to say about the modern crisis.
That video of that woman explaining the classroom was really, really great.
I doubt that really happened, that story, but it really does explain exactly why socialism fails.
Because you are outright telling people you will not be rewarded for hard work.
They say, okay, then why would I do it?
phil labonte
It is not possible to make the uncapable capable so you must make the capable incapable.
You cannot take people that don't have the ability to do things and make them able to do things.
The only way you can make equity happen in reality or make equity manifest in reality is to take away from people that can.
Take away their property, take their abilities, take away their Liberties do things in acting the world Laurie Lemon and
tim pool
the member chat said Phil's headphones are lopsided. Please fix. I'm kidding
I think they're trolling Added the police fix
All right Tyler Henry says, I'm a septic technician and I can't stop thinking about your talk yesterday with liberals moving out of cities.
I show up to people's houses with fancy cars and Biden stickers and not wanting to learn how to avoid the problems.
This is the crazy thing.
Like when you do it, when you handle septic right, you don't got to do anything for, for a really, really, really long time.
And depending on the size of it and depending on the size of your family and the people who use it.
But we're in a building that's not a septic system.
It's a very large system.
But we also have a lot of people here.
We have a lot of guests.
And it's really, really frustrating because everybody who comes here comes from cities.
You know, almost most of the guests come here.
They live in cities.
And they don't know.
You literally can't use it.
You can't flush anything down this.
So we have to have the company come out and deal with it all the time.
But, you know, it is what it is.
It is what it is.
All right.
We'll grab one more.
Bar Fightin' says, who's goin' chicken huntin'?
You know Wiss goin' chicken huntin', get paid my man.
Is that a- is that a ICP reference?
phil labonte
I have no idea.
tim pool
Is that Insane Clown Posse?
serge du preez
Wiss go- Wiss goin' chicken huntin'?
tim pool
Let me just, uh... Is- is that what it is?
Yes, I was right.
Chicken Hunting is a song by Insane Clown Posse.
See, I just remember these things.
Don't ask me why.
My friends, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, and share the show with your friends if you really do like it because, you know, we've done marketing as kind of a statement with the Times Square stuff, but they're really, marketing these days, the only effective marketing is people who like the show telling other people about it.
That's it.
They always say, like, for podcasts, the best way for a podcast to grow is that it's just good.
And so if we are good and you share it with your friends, then that's good for us.
And if we're not good and you don't share it, well then, so be it.
That's what we deserve.
So smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, become a member at TimCast.com.
We're going to set up that members-only live stream.
It'll go live in about 10 minutes and not family-friendly.
We got a lot more to talk about pertaining to Trump and things like that.
Should be a lot of fun.
You can follow the show at TimCastIRL.
You can follow me personally at TimCastJulie.
Do you want to shout anything out?
julie kelly
No, thank you for having me.
You can catch me on Twitter.
Can I get my Twitter handle?
serge du preez
Yes, of course.
julie kelly
Because I do cover a lot of stuff on January 6th, videos and court filings that are interesting.
They really are interesting though.
Julie underscore Kelly 2 and all my works at American Greatness and greatness.com.
ian crossland
That's where people get your book.
julie kelly
They can get my book on Amazon.
ian crossland
The name of the book again?
julie kelly
It's January 6th, How Democrats Use the Capitol Protest to Launch a War on Terror Against the Political Right.
phil labonte
I am Phil Labonte, I am PhilThatRemains on Twitter, PhilThatRemainsOfficial on Instagram, and yeah, give me a follow.
Ian.
ian crossland
Yeah, you guys, I heard some people wanted to send stuff to TimCast.
You can, TimCast.com slash contact is where you can find the PO Box, and here it is, PO Box 1229 Frederick, Maryland 21702 if you want it.
But again, it's on TimCast.com slash contact.
So you can get it there, send us whatever you need to send us.
I know, I think Serge, you mentioned you were going to follow up as well.
And catch you guys later.
serge du preez
Yeah, I wrote down the people who commented with, I think, I forget what they are now, but I wrote down on this, what do you call these?
What do we call these?
ian crossland
Sticky notes.
serge du preez
Sticky notes, that's the word.
Anyways, I'm at SIRS.com.
Thank you for joining us, Julie.
I appreciate it.
It was fun.
tim pool
Thanks for having me.
We, as we're expanding the new facility, I guess we need a, like, general handyman.
Somebody who knows how to use appliances, equipment, like water systems, septic, things like that.
Cause somebody super chatted the other day that if we needed a plumber, and I was like, actually, we might need someone like that.
And then I was talking about it today with upper management and they were like, we, we need like a general maintenance handy, handyman who can maintain everything.
Because now we've got the new studio being built, which is going to be like three buildings.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So we definitely need someone because if something, we've had like leaks before because of the AC and then we're like, ah, what do we do?
And then it's like Sunday and we call and there's nobody and we can't.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
So you got three buildings.
You need at least one maintenance person.
tim pool
Exactly.
Exactly.
serge du preez
Facilities manager.
tim pool
That being said, um, I don't know.
I think it's jobs at timcast.com or something like that is the email.
unidentified
Okay.
phil labonte
There you go.
tim pool
All right, everybody.
We'll see y'all over at timcast.com.
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