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Jan. 28, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Tyre Nichols Footage Sparks Protest, Riot Fear, Pelosi Footage Drops w/Aidan Kearney
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unidentified
Yo, what a day.
tim pool
We got that footage from the Memphis Cops.
The horrific video of five officers raining punches on Tyree Nichols as he screams out mom mom before dying in the hospital after cardiac arrest and kidney failure.
And the video's pretty brutal.
I haven't seen all the different angles but I see these cops holding a guy with his hands behind his back and they're just going at his face like crazy.
It's a brutal video.
So protests have already begun.
People are concerned about violent riots even though they already fired and arrested the cops involved.
They're still going out and protesting.
I don't know what they're protesting for because they like You got what you wanted.
I mean, you wanted the cops brought to justice.
I mean, they're gonna go to jail probably, we'll see.
And then we got the Pelosi footage getting released.
And I've got a... I'll call it a correction.
I said that I think that... I thought it was likely, in my 4PM segment, that this may be a drug deal gone wrong.
I'm not saying I know for a fact, I'm just saying it sounds like it might make more sense.
And I missed that they released the backdoor footage of him smashing the windows out.
I still think there's a lot of questions that need to be asked about how weird this video is.
Like why Paul Pelosi is holding a drink as the door opens.
Why he doesn't then go out to the cops.
Why he then grabs the hammer but doesn't drop his drink to grab the hammer.
Just, it's a very weird thing.
unidentified
Very, very weird.
tim pool
The 911 call is weird.
A lot of people are saying, guys, it's just de-escalation.
He was trying to stop a crazy crackhead from attacking him.
Maybe.
Maybe.
But I do kind of feel like saying DePap is crazy is a weird catch-all for all of the unexplainable things that we think are weird, right?
It's just like, oh, the reason why he was holding that glass?
He was deescalating, because DePap's crazy.
The reason DePap was there?
Crazy.
The reason DePap's sitting with him, letting him call 911?
Crazy.
I just find that kind of weird.
So we'll talk about that, plus we've got a bunch of other stories.
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Two shoutouts.
unidentified
It's gone.
tim pool
Sold out.
I can't believe it.
I mean, I guess I can believe it.
We got Alex Jones, Blair White, Luka Kowski, Alex Stein, Michael Maus.
This is gonna be one awesome event.
And there were only 300 tickets to begin with, so those sold out in like two days.
serge du preez
Yeah, totally.
tim pool
Man.
But it's going to be fun.
Maybe we'll figure out a way to do similar things more.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Aidan Kearney.
unidentified
What's happening, Tim?
Thanks for having me.
tim pool
Yeah, who are you?
unidentified
So my name is Aidan Carney, although they just call me Turtle Boy around New England.
I run a media entity called Turtle Boy Daily News.
We've broken hundreds of stories that the mainstream media won't touch because we go
after powerful people that the rest of the media is afraid to go after.
But for that reason, I've been deplatformed.
I've had over 50 Facebook pages taken down.
I've been banned from Twitter for two years.
I can't use PayPal, GoFundMe, or Venmo.
I've been sued dozens of times, undefeated in court.
I'd like to point that out.
Including a most recent, Boston City Councilor is currently suing me for writing about her alleged drinking and driving incident.
So, basically this is what I do.
When the mainstream media does cover our stories, frequently they like to steal it without attribution.
In particular, Andy Ngo seems to have a thing for my content.
Yeah, so that's basically what I do.
tim pool
All right on.
Thanks for joining us.
We also got Hannah Clare hanging out.
hannah claire brimelow
Hi, I'm Hannah Clare.
I'm a writer for TimCast.com.
ian crossland
Hey, hi, Hannah, Clare.
Oh, thanks for having me.
I want to echo something James O'Keefe said last night in a Twitter space that he hosted after IRL, late up until midnight Eastern, that we are the media now.
We are the mainstream media.
And this legacy stuff, They're not the mainstream anymore.
It's fed to people via television.
No one cares.
I mean, it's very, very low.
Compared to stuff like this, compared to getting 20 million views on the Veritas video yesterday, that is the mainstream in the consciousness, and I'm happy to be a part of it.
And I wanted to mention two things before we get started.
One, I spent the last few days with Bucko the Cat, Mr. Bocas, and we traveled across country to a stem cell clinic that was able to harvest some of his fat cells.
They thought they didn't get enough fat.
He called me today and told me, Your cat's a rock star.
Somehow, out of six grams of fat, they got as many stem cells out of what they could get out of 150 grams of fat from a dog.
And he was shocked, almost in shock, at how well Bucco did.
Thank you, Bucco, for keeping positive.
I don't know if there's some sort of entanglement going on in your cells over there, doing well, because you're doing well over here?
tim pool
No, no.
It's all the people who have watched and have prayed for Mr. Bucco.
ian crossland
Cellular life is attuned to the vibration of your soul, so keep it up.
tim pool
I just want to say, like, I have to wonder about that.
You know, we repeatedly talk on the show about our cat, Mr. Bocas, and how he's sick and he doesn't have much time to live.
And now the doctor's saying it's a miracle we were able to get enough stem cells out of—he has almost no fit.
And he was able to pull it off.
I wonder if it's all the people who have been praying for him.
ian crossland
I think it's something.
He didn't say miracle.
tim pool
It's a miracle!
ian crossland
Doctors maybe stay a little more scientific.
He pointed out that it was omental fat from bucko, whereas the 150 grams of the dog was falciform fat.
So there are different kinds of fat too, which might have something to do with it.
But he was still taken aback and very happy about it.
And then secondly, you know I love graphene, so I put my money where my mouth is and I got A shirt made out of graphene.
The shirt and the pants, if you can see, are made out of 90% graphene woven polyester.
The graphene is infused with the polyester, and then it's 10% spandex, and it feels cool.
tim pool
We've got to make Ian's graphene dark roast.
ian crossland
Let's freaking do it, man, because it's heat absorbent, but it's also cool to the touch.
I like it.
tim pool
Everyone's saying you need a graphene dark roast for the coffee company when we release it.
We'll have to do it.
ian crossland
Get the hexagons on the package.
tim pool
Maybe we'll do like an espresso roast and it'll be like Ian's graphene espresso.
unidentified
I love it.
ian crossland
I'm in.
tim pool
All right, we got Serge pressing the buttons.
serge du preez
Yo, what's up, guys?
Glad to have you back, Ian.
Thank you, Serge.
It's been fun without you, but we're really wishing you out here.
ian crossland
Thanks, homie.
serge du preez
Anyways, let's get started.
tim pool
Alright, here's the first story we got from the Daily Mail.
Breaking news!
Memphis cops release horrific video of five officers raining punches and kicks down on Tyree Nichols.
Is that how you pronounce it?
Tyree Nichols?
I was calling him Tyre Nichols before.
serge du preez
I couldn't tell.
hannah claire brimelow
I think it's Tyree Nichols.
serge du preez
It seems like Tyree.
tim pool
Because if it was Tyree, I think it would be like two E's, but I'm not trying to get his name wrong.
Let's say Tyree.
As he screams out, mom, mom, before dying in hospital after cardiac arrest and kidney failure.
So, They got a bunch of different angles.
They pepper spray him, they pin him on the ground.
There's surveillance footage where he's got his hands behind his back.
They're holding, I think they've cuffed him at this point, right?
serge du preez
Yeah, I think so.
tim pool
And then the cop just walks up and just does full boom!
unidentified
Boom!
tim pool
Just starts wailing.
You see him going back and forth.
serge du preez
Yo, it's tough to watch.
tim pool
Yeah, it's very tough to watch.
And they had that, uh, that doctor, I'm sorry, the chief of police came out earlier and said it's as worse or as bad or worse than Rodney King.
And so I'm kind of just like, yo, do they want people to riot tonight?
unidentified
Why would she say that?
tim pool
Because they want the riots.
They've been hyping it up all week and then she's like, we wanted to release the footage on a Friday when no one was in school or at work so it wouldn't be disruptive.
It's just like, so you want to make sure everyone is available to protest, to riot?
serge du preez
Exactly.
unidentified
They did the Mike Brown non-indictment announcement on a Friday night too, if I recall.
It's like, right at this exact time.
tim pool
It's like they want people to riot.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
I think they do.
There was that the firebomber, the Antifa firebomber in New York, one year in prison.
The judge even praised the dude.
The judge was like, you're a good guy, you know?
You've done a lot of great things.
You're gonna go away for a year.
And it's just like, this guy firebombed a police vehicle and him and his friend were giving out firebombs.
And one year.
Meanwhile, some, like, bumbling bumpkin walks into the Capitol building, confused, and you're, like, 20 years in prison.
I'm exaggerating, by the way, but, like, you know, they... Viking Man got four.
unidentified
That's a good one.
Who did?
Viking Man got four.
tim pool
Oh, right!
It's like, here's a guy who's just, like, doofing about.
He didn't do anything.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
He just trespassed.
Four years in prison.
Meanwhile, Firebomber?
Welcome to America.
We can have a... I mean, we were talking about this the other day, like, are we in for another summer of love?
It's still winter, man.
I'm kind of feeling like summer of love is coming.
serge du preez
Seems like it.
ian crossland
I could go for an actual summer of love at this point.
How about you guys?
tim pool
What does that mean?
ian crossland
Like where we actually love each other again.
Try and take care of each other.
I mean, I'm not down with violence, though.
You break something, you buy it, man.
You wreck somebody's house, you're threatening their livelihood and their life at that point.
tim pool
We talked about this the other day.
I don't know if we talked about it on the show, but we were talking about how property rights are Life rights.
The root of property rights is your ability to live safely and securely.
That's why you can own land.
And you can farm and grow food.
If you were like, I am going to work all year to grow food, and then some communists show up and they're like, it's not yours, it's ours.
Well, then nobody has security.
ian crossland
And if they kick you out of your house, if they burn your house down, you go out and it's cold outside, you'll die from hypothermia.
There's no joke.
Your home is the central nexus of your livelihood.
unidentified
I did the unthinkable today.
I watched a lot of MSNBC and CNN just to kind of see.
You gotta check in.
Did you vomit?
Well, it's like all they're talking about is this one person and him dying.
And it's almost like they're just feeding into it.
They're making this seem like this is the biggest story in the country, when in fact, it's one of thousands of murders that happen every month in this country.
If this worst case scenario, these cops did it, they murdered them.
I think they did.
They're already in jail.
What else do you want besides them getting arrested?
What are you protesting for?
Protesting is supposed to have an end goal.
Abolish the police.
That's exactly what it is.
But they're not saying that.
So when Biden gets out there and he actually said, we want you to protest peacefully.
Why are you protesting at all?
Protesting what?
They were already arrested.
They're in jail.
What else do you want?
Abolish the police.
Exactly.
tim pool
This is it.
They know that abolish the police is unpopular, but that's really what they want.
You got a video, I gotta say, like I watched the surveillance footage and I'm just like, yeah, there's no justification for having a guy in cuffs who's just standing there and then you start wailing on his face.
unidentified
Oh, it was bad.
Yeah, it was uncomfortable.
ian crossland
I haven't seen the video.
tim pool
Is it too bad or too graphic?
I don't think we can play it on YouTube.
ian crossland
So was he saying something and then they came up behind him and they're like, you said too much kind of thing?
unidentified
No, like he was like, he was dizzy and like this story and they just kept hitting them.
Like, and it seemed almost personal, very personal.
Like I'm sure there's more to it.
You didn't deserve it.
Don't get me wrong, but it seemed like either the cop has right issues or something, something wrong with that guy.
tim pool
Well, I'll just say, I probably shouldn't say it, but I want to.
serge du preez
You're talking about the super chat?
tim pool
The super chat where someone said there's a rumor that he was banging a dude's wife or something like that.
ian crossland
Oh, that it was personal.
tim pool
Yeah, but I only say that because you said it looked like it was personal, and I felt the exact same way.
Like, when they got the guy subdued, and then the dude walks up and just winds up and goes, boom!
unidentified
Boom!
tim pool
I'm like, does he know that guy?
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Because that's not, like, all the videos we've seen of cops, When they're, like, detaining or arresting someone, you can tell what they're doing and why they're doing it.
Like, a lot of these videos are, stop resisting, and then they start hitting him and punching him in the head.
But that's, like, they call it pain compliance.
This looks like revenge.
serge du preez
Yeah, it's like that one guy in particular.
It's not like all the cops are doing it.
unidentified
He looked like in Mortal Kombat when it's like, finish him.
That's what he looked like.
serge du preez
So that one cop was the one who kept Yeah, it was only the one cop.
There was also a part of it where they're hitting him with an ice stick.
I don't know if that was the same cop or whatever.
tim pool
It could be that this rumor emerges because people are like, does this guy know him?
unidentified
They're trying to fill in the gaps.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, Memphis is one of the most violent cities in the country.
And so if we were trying to have a hotbed for cultivating an anti-police sentiment,
it might be one of the places to do so because I'm sure there are a lot of people there who
feel as though the justice system is against them and, you know, hurts everyone they know.
I think it's the obvious parallels you're going to see here that, you know, this man
was stopped.
It was it started as a traffic stop.
And there are cities like Philadelphia that have tried to do away.
They try to get rid of any chance of having a traffic stop to avoid this kind of confrontation or a confrontation escalating.
The video is, I mean, I think the video speaks for itself, but obviously if we find out later that there is some sort of social or relationship, some sort of connection between the men, like, I don't think it makes it better.
I think it probably speaks to more systematic issues in Memphis.
ian crossland
Yeah, it could even indicate, like, premeditation.
If the guy knows the guy and he sees him across and he walks towards him to hit him, that's very different than he's on him and then he starts hitting him out of defense or something.
tim pool
I don't think that's true, that the guy was banging his wife.
I think it just sounds sensational.
serge du preez
It was a super chat, so.
tim pool
It's on the internet, therefore it's true, right?
ian crossland
Must have some value if it's on the internet.
tim pool
I don't know, maybe we should Google it.
unidentified
They paid to say that, so.
tim pool
Maybe just Google it, I'll see.
ian crossland
So then what happened?
These five cops are in jail right now?
hannah claire brimelow
They all turned themselves in and they've all been arrested, but I think they all posted bond, lest I read.
serge du preez
Were they actually fired?
hannah claire brimelow
I think they're out.
But then again, I wonder where they are right now because it sounds like Memphis is not the place to be.
ian crossland
Is there riots right now?
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, I don't know about right now, but it seems like there's a chance that tonight isn't a night for it.
serge du preez
Yeah, I mean, Kellan was watching footage.
I don't know where he was watching, but there's definitely people out in the streets demonstrating.
hannah claire brimelow
There are demonstrations, but I don't know if it's escalating.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, yeah.
There's like a YouTube video from a day ago.
It was Tyree Nichols having an affair with one of the officer's wives.
ian crossland
And they found him, and they were like... So I typed in... I picked up Google.
tim pool
I typed in Tyree Nichols, and it auto-filtered Affair Reddit.
And I was like, whoa, what?
So I clicked it and it just gave me a bunch of Reddit posts about the story.
So I got rid of Reddit.
So it says Tyrone Eagle's Affair and there's a video where a guy is saying it from yesterday.
So maybe it was someone just speculating.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Because people are like, why would the cops do this?
Is the cop just a murderer and he was just feeling like killing a guy?
Or was there a reason for it?
ian crossland
It's pretty rare.
I think most murder... I don't know.
I don't actually have the data to back this up.
Most murder is between people that know each other.
unidentified
Is that true?
And I think a lot of the cops are just... they see...
The mental aspect of being a cop, they see dead bodies all the time.
They come across a car accident, they're the first to see a dead body.
They have to call people's loved ones.
A lot of police, I think, are suffering from mental health issues and they're messed up in the head.
What I saw in that video, that man has serious issues like anger issues.
He's probably seen a lot of things.
Memphis is a dangerous city.
We're in a lot of dangerous areas.
And I'm not justifying anything he did.
Obviously, he needs to be held responsible for that.
But what you saw in that video is not normal anger.
An accountant doesn't have that kind of anger in them.
Somebody that actually sees crazy shit on a daily basis, that's what I saw in that video.
tim pool
So what's your prescription?
Are we going to get a summer of love?
unidentified
Oh yeah, we're gonna, I mean, well, luckily it's winter, so we got that going.
tim pool
Look, look, this stuff's already starting in January.
I mean, normally we wait until the springtime when people start coming out, but people are protesting in winter, which, you know, it's almost like the groundhog see his shadow, like, do the protesters come out in winter?
Because if they do, then they're, then they're heated up.
ian crossland
A lot of it, I think, is desperation with this economic downturn.
We need some sort of industrial revival or revolution in this country.
unidentified
So one guy in Memphis was murdered, right?
But people are murdered across the country on a daily basis.
And this is what annoys me about this, is that this is what the media and politicians, Democratic politicians, tell us is important.
This is the biggest story.
But it's really not, because People get murdered every day in this country.
In Massachusetts the other day, I don't know if you guys heard about this, one of the most horrible stories I've ever heard, a mother, a nurse, a delivery nurse at Mass General Hospital murdered her three children.
I saw the story.
And then tried to kill herself by jumping out of the window.
To me, that is so much of a bigger story than this, because the problem that caused her to do that is mental health.
And that isn't something that we are not addressing.
tim pool
But you don't protest that?
unidentified
Right, but you never hear calls to like, let's do something about the mental health system.
Here's my plan to fix the mental health system.
So many people are dying in this country every year because of mental health.
That's an actual problem that is a solution that can be fixed.
Whereas, what are these people trying to fix?
They're already in jail.
There's not a problem to be fixed here.
Five bad cops did something bad and they're being held responsible.
tim pool
They look at the police and say, this is going to keep happening so long as we have a police department.
With a woman killing her kids, people are going to be like, what should we do?
ian crossland
Yeah, you make a good point.
A lot of the mass shootings are people that are on some sort of psychoactive drug.
SSRIs.
unidentified
And what's the first thing they try to do after every shooting?
ian crossland
They'll try and ban guns or take away guns instead of going to the pharmaceutical companies that are profiting off of shoving drugs down people's throats instead of fixing their diets.
The thing about demonizing police is it stresses out the people that are on the force, the police force.
And then when they're out there, they're more stressed and then they become more likely to get agitated on the job or fearful.
tim pool
Resulting in an escalation of force.
ian crossland
Absolutely.
You know, hating is not going to make these people fight less.
hannah claire brimelow
I think they see defund the police as a very simple solution, right?
Cops are killing people.
If we get rid of them, those are gone.
And I think it becomes harder to talk about mental health.
I think you're totally right.
Mental health should be a bigger push in this country.
In fact, when you started talking, it made me think of There's a wave of different families over Christmas time who were all involved in murder suicides, right?
Like these very large families, I think there were two in Utah.
But mental health is more complicated, right?
You mentioned diet, we could talk about medication, we could talk about environmental stress, like it's much harder to pinpoint A fix on one thing.
Whereas if I say, well, if cops killed someone, we should just get rid of all cops.
It becomes much easier for people to all jump on board.
It's not that I advocate for that solution.
It's just that, like, it markets itself better.
You know what I mean?
And so even though it's misdirected, I think it's much easier to push people towards that effort.
tim pool
Now I just want to point out, all these cops that got arrested, they were all black.
So does that remove the racial component?
unidentified
Did you read Van Jones today?
tim pool
What did he say?
unidentified
Oh, he said that it's internalized white supremacy.
You got to see the headline.
I screenshotted it somewhere.
You would think it's satire, but it's actually real life.
hannah claire brimelow
I think it was The Guardian had one.
unidentified
Here's the headline.
Opinion.
tim pool
The police who killed Tyree Nichols were black, but they still might have been driven I'm trying to be like, can we point out that the protesters are angry with the policing system and it's not just a race thing?
And nope, they can't help it.
They're pulling a Clayton Bigsby.
It's a Dave Chappelle Clayton Bigsby.
unidentified
Yeah, literally.
I was kidding about earlier.
The guy writing that headline is cracking up at me.
hannah claire brimelow
No, they're trying to stay on message.
tim pool
That's what it is.
We had the HOTEPs here.
HOTEP Jesus, Uncle HOTEP, Cannon HOTEP.
These are, you know, three adult black males.
And I just pointed out to them, I was like, you know, it's funny is that because your guys is politics, you're all white supremacists.
But Serge over here is African-American, because he's from South Africa.
serge du preez
Yeah, quite literally.
tim pool
It's just like, the logic, yeah, right, like Elon.
serge du preez
Exactly.
tim pool
Luke, Luke is, Luke Rutkowski is Polish.
serge du preez
Person of color.
tim pool
So that makes him a person of color.
How come?
Slavs are considered people of color.
unidentified
I always wondered about Portuguese.
tim pool
According to wokeness, because the woke don't believe white means your skin color, it means political, like, dominant force, or something.
And because Ukrainians, Polish people, or whatever, and, like, Romanians are in, like, a worse-off economic position, the blonde-haired, blue-eyed Luke Grudkowski, according to the Coalition for Communities of Color, they say he is a person of color.
ian crossland
Now, I see a through-line here.
tim pool
And they say, Hotep Jesus, a black man, is a white supremacist.
ian crossland
I think that whiteness and the patriarchy are kind of hand-in-hand.
I do believe it comes from the Roman slave state.
It was essentially the Romans were racist, genocidal maniacs that would conquer and murder and enslave other people that weren't pure-blood Roman.
They were like the Nazis of the time, if the Nazis had won and conquered half the planet.
Yeah, it wasn't just the Romans, but the Roman patriarchy, the Roman church that they created, has done such damage in the amount of slavery that they imposed on people.
And it still has bled through into our society.
We have white Roman heritage, but it's not the skin color.
unidentified
Exactly.
ian crossland
It starts to get blurry.
We got to look past the skin color and look at the actual patriarchy.
We even call ourselves patriots.
That's a male-dominant thing.
They say God is a man.
That's male-dominant crap.
It doesn't have to be like that.
tim pool
He's going full feminist.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I was going to say, I don't think I agree with you.
ian crossland
No, you don't have to.
hannah claire brimelow
I think part of this, I think it's easy to say like, oh, it's one group that had this terrible system, but like, let's remember that when the Romans had slaves, so did tons of other people, right?
Like, we are saying that, oh, because we are tied to Romans and they had slavery, therefore this through line is there, but that's not true because you'd have to say it for all civilizations, right?
And every descendant of a culture that had slave would, in that idea, have the same fault, right?
I think when we talk about patriarchal culture, It becomes easy to, again, say that there is one problem, right?
That men are too aggressive, and that men don't do this, and whatever.
And I think that's not true, personally, right?
I think that there are faults with some patriot-dominated societies, but I don't think being tied to your heritage, and typically heritage is traced through the masculine line of your family, is bad, right?
I think we have a better understanding of our history, and again, typically that's tied through the male-dominated line, You have a better way of looking at the faults in your culture, right?
It becomes more difficult to reflect on yourself when you are divorced from your heritage.
tim pool
We got to read some of this.
So this is the this is from Van Jones on CNN.
The police who killed Tyree Nichols were black, but they might still have been driven by racism.
Three decades ago, when four white LA police officers were videotaped beating Rodney King, the public outcry was heard around the world.
In fact, I got arrested for the first time in my life during protests that followed, and I subsequently dedicated my career as a lawyer to helping to sue rogue cops, close prisons, and reform the criminal justice system.
What happened to King was horrifying, he then goes on to mention, but at least he survived.
Tyree Nichols did not.
Yada yada.
Five former Memphis police officers fired for their alleged actions during Nichols' alleged, and there's a video of it, have now been indicted.
I was in law enforcement during the Rodney King incident as a chief.
By all accounts, he was good.
How do we explain Nichols' horrific killing alleged at the hands of police who looked like him?
From the King beating to the murder nearly three years ago of George Floyd, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
unidentified
How do we explain it?
It's extremely common.
tim pool
Black people are not immune to anti-black messages.
One of the sad facts about anti-black racism is that black people ourselves are not immune to its pernicious effects.
At this point, I just want to give a round of applause to Van Jones for this sophistry at coming up with a reason why these black cops were actually anti-black racists for beating up another black man.
unidentified
It's not just him, though.
It's like, Jamil Hill.
Like, this was a common take on Twitter today about this.
Like, as soon as they saw that picture where all five cops are black, you're like, well, now we got to go to plan B. Like, the original plan was racism.
We're like, well, now we're going to have to explain this a little more.
tim pool
But look what they did with Zimmerman.
Remember?
They were like a white man.
It's like, Zimmerman's Mexican?
He's Hispanic.
I don't know if he's Mexican.
hannah claire brimelow
He's Cuban, I think.
tim pool
Cuban, there you go.
And they were like, well, he's a white Hispanic.
And you're like, what does that mean?
Are you kidding me?
unidentified
Come on, man.
ian crossland
What I'm getting is Van Jones is suggesting that these dudes, these five cops, were serving the white master and doing its bidding.
Exactly.
But it's just so, it's not a white and black thing.
This is what drives me nuts, man.
Yeah, there are corporate overlords.
There are people with power, but I mean, maybe I'm blind in that there really is a racial thing.
Like, they annihilated the Native Americans.
They were, like, they're savages.
They didn't even consider them human.
Like, they were just killing anything that wasn't white or whatever at the time.
unidentified
They had black slaves and they were killing... Listen, listen, listen.
tim pool
There's a reason why these things emerge in human civilization.
You live in a small village of a hundred people.
Everybody's orange.
You know that when you see a person and they're orange, you're like, oh, they probably live in my village.
I can trust that.
I feel safe.
100 miles away, there's a village where everybody's green.
One day you come across a green person, you're like, I've never seen that person before.
I don't know who that is.
They're not from my village.
That's a threat.
That's dangerous.
So over time, as humans are coming closer and closer together, we start living with people of different backgrounds, different heights, different skin colors.
We start to go like, oh, you know, that didn't matter at all.
We're now humans.
And so over time, we start to actually move away from a lot of this.
In the United States and a bunch of other countries, they don't.
So you end up with, yes, race is often an issue.
Even in the United States, people racially profile.
Even Mike Bloomberg went on about how he does this.
And then you end up with, like, I can understand to a certain degree what Van Jones is saying, but they're taking it in a direction that I think is disingenuous.
There have been black cops who, on numerous occasions, have been seen arresting and beating young black men, and then the woke activists try and claim, like, oh, the police did this, and it's white supremacy and it's racist, and then when you point out, like, hey, I don't think the race was the issue if the cops themselves were black.
I think it's a, these guys are in a high crime neighborhood, they're black, the people who live there are black, and the cops are concerned about the level of crime.
I don't think the black cop is looking at the black kid and being like, he looks like me, what's he thinking?
Therefore, this guy's more dangerous?
No, I think what it is is, it doesn't matter if you're white, it doesn't matter if you're black, it matters if they're like, hey, we're sending you to a crime scene.
And you're like, okay, now you're gonna be on edge and be like, I'm in a dangerous neighborhood.
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like, I mean, what you're saying makes me think of all of the diversity and equity recruitment.
Like, there are a lot of police stations or, you know, police departments across the country that specifically were like, we want to make sure our force represents the people that they're policing, right?
They are of the same racial makeup, they are related to the community, they have a better way to relate to them.
I don't know if Memphis has this policy in place, but if they do, does this tell us that that doesn't matter?
That people who are prone to be cruel and violent will do it no matter who they're looking at?
unidentified
Imagine if these guys were diversity hires.
Imagine that.
This is part of the diversity, equity, and inclusion.
But can they hire these guys?
tim pool
But maybe, I mean, I remember there was a lawsuit, I think it was out of New York, where they purposefully hire stupid people to be cops.
And they said it's because they hire smart people, they get bored, they quit.
That's their excuse.
But you hire people of low quality, you're gonna get low quality output.
You guys remember, I'm just totally gonna bring this up.
Do you remember when Ben and Jerry's tweeted about the, what is it called, the 1350?
They tweet a lot of stupid things.
So this is the point I'm trying to make.
There are a bunch of people who, they were even posting this the other day we were talking about with Nuance Bro.
Crime in Democrat cities, and he mentioned the racial disparity in crime and all that stuff, and I'm like, I think there's a lot to do with history, poverty, and then we look at the surface level, or I shouldn't say we, but a lot of people, and they're like, hey, I notice there's a lot of crime in this community, and they tend to be this race or that race, and it's also like, yeah, but there's a lot more context there that we need to bring up.
I'm not saying race plays no issue or anything, I'm just saying historical, like, slavery, generational wealth, poverty, lack of education, these things play a much, much bigger role, in my opinion, than anything else.
But Ben and Jerry's, and this is a really important point, because the woke people do this, and it's exactly what this is.
Ben and Jerry's posted on Twitter something like, you know, the African American community is only 13% of the U.S.
population, but they comprise something like, you know, 50% of prison inmates, yada yada.
And I'm like, that's the same meme that you'll see, you know, people post on the internet that I don't want to say every single person who posts that is a racist, but are associated with being the right or racist.
The left believes the exact same thing.
The left wants segregation.
The left is blaming racism, anti-blackness, on why black cops attacked a black man, because they can't help but view the entire world through the lens of race.
It's the woke law of projection.
You have a white liberal who is extremely racist who then says, you know what?
You're racist too.
And you're like, me?
I'm not racist.
And they're like, yes you are.
The reason they're saying that is because they think everyone must think the same thing they do.
They can't imagine that other people have different beliefs.
It's a cult.
Everybody projects.
Everybody thinks the way I view the world is the way everyone else views the world.
Now, I shouldn't say everybody.
There's a lot of people who understand that they don't.
Probably tend to watch shows like this, or Crowder, or 6ix9ine, or even Barnes.
Like, to be on the opposite side of the wokeness.
But these woke people, very much so, are racist, and then project thinking, if I think this way, so must everyone else.
Then they go to you and tell you you're racist, and no matter what you say, they won't believe you.
Because you must think what they think.
unidentified
Well, if you don't, that's white fragility.
Exactly.
That's literally what that book is based on.
tim pool
So you end up with Van Jones writing the only explanation as to why five black men beat another black man was because of white supremacy when it's just like, maybe it's because they're cops.
Maybe it's because they have a short fuse because of the things they witness all day, every day.
And they were angry.
And it's nothing to do with the race of these men because they were all black.
I'm sick of everything having to be someone's race.
Like, look, I'll put it this way.
Sometimes it is race.
Sometimes it is a white cop hating a black person.
Sometimes it's a black cop hating an Asian person.
Who knows?
I'm just saying.
It annoys me that woke people especially, but, you know, others as well, immediately assume the cause of and the correlation is, well, it was the race.
And I'm like, dude, come on, man.
For all we know, this guy was banging dude's wife.
unidentified
Well, Jamil Hill said the silent part out loud.
This is what she said, what you were saying about the police.
I need so many people to understand this regarding Tyree Nichols.
Several of the police officers who murdered Freddie Gray were black.
The entire system of policing is based on white supremacist violence.
They just keep making it up, but that It disproves!
She's saying, get rid of the police.
tim pool
That's what she said.
It's amazing.
It's someone walking up to you and saying, listen, the sky is pink.
And you go, I'm looking up and the sky is blue.
Actually, that's because you've got a lens distortion perspective.
And that proves, actually, the sky is pink.
No, I can see it, dude!
When you come out and you say, did you know that the cops who killed Freddie Gray, some of them were also black?
I'm like, so that basically disproves your whole narrative.
No, it actually proves it.
unidentified
They can't lose.
tim pool
I wish I had that kind of societal power to say something that proves the opposite proves the opposite.
Just be at a casino and it's like, you know, it's like, hit me 25.
Actually, they changed the rules.
unidentified
Jacks are now I don't know.
tim pool
Oh, you have 21.
I keep winning.
hannah claire brimelow
It reminds me, wasn't there a movie where a guy was like the only one in the world who
knew how to lie?
tim pool
Yeah, Ricky Gervais.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I like that movie a lot.
unidentified
I've never seen it.
tim pool
What's that one called?
The Invention of Lying.
So he's broke.
So it's a world where no one can lie.
And then he's broke.
He can't pay his rent.
He's going to get evicted.
And then he goes to the bank.
And then it like shows like he's like, I need to withdraw money in the like, I'm sorry,
you don't have you only have a certain amount of money in your bank account.
Then it zooms into his brain, and it shows a neuron fire, and then he goes, no, I have $800 in my account.
And she goes, that's strange.
It doesn't say that.
Must be a mistake.
Okay, I'll withdraw that money for you, because there's no lying.
And then she gives him the money, and he's like, And then he basically becomes king of the world.
Is it funny?
unidentified
He's funny.
tim pool
I think it's a great movie.
It's hilarious.
It's like a movie that makes you think, kind of, but it is funny.
Movies in this universe are people sitting in chairs reading history because there's no fiction.
So then he starts writing fiction and people are watching these movies all excited, thinking it's real.
ian crossland
Historically, through the eons, the lying, deceitful one, monkey, or whoever in the culture of our great ancestors were the ones that were able to weasel their way into power by hiding the food so that the other ones couldn't find their food.
And they're like, where's our food?
Then they starve.
And he's like, ha, ha, ha.
And so it's in our genetics that you need to deceive to get into power.
But what we want is an honest leader.
But you need a strong society to support an honest leader.
Or the leader will just be taken advantage of and destroyed by evil and subterfuge.
It's so easy to burn down what's functional, but it's so challenging to create it.
So I think we're on a path to create an honest leader right now, it seems like.
tim pool
Think about building a machine and all of the fine parts that go in it, and then someone can just take a piece of bubble gum and...
Throw it right in, the whole machine breaks.
And then you're like, I can't get that bubblegum out.
Something that's so stupid and easy to make, some bubblegum, some tree sap, some rubber, destroys 50 years of your work.
Think about how you could gum up a car.
Think about how you could pour sugar or some other garbage into the tank.
It's so easy to tear a machine down.
It's so hard to build it.
ian crossland
And it's easy to lie about machines when they're not functioning, because it can cause panic if you're honest about the mishaps and the dangers of society.
If you don't understand the danger, but you're honest about it, that's scary.
Like, hey, there's a problem I don't have a solution for, and that can cause panic, which can cause the dissolution of the system.
So you're better off, historically, lying about it and being like, everything's fine.
Close your eyes.
Everything's fine.
And if it burns, it burns.
There's no one there to come after me for lying.
But I think now, you know, well one, we have the tools, like the internet, where we can solve these problems.
Climate change, you know, we can withdraw the carbon, turn it into graphene.
We can regrow the plankton in the ocean with iron fertilization.
We can regrow the coral reefs with cultural micro-fragmentation of coral, where you break it into a bunch of pieces and it all grows at once together.
We can build space elevators and elevate, you know, we can colonize.
There are solutions, but it's a matter of organizing them and communicating them calmly.
And I think if we can do that, we won't need to lie to each other.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and everyone has to agree that like those things are worth doing, right?
Like if you have a small group of people and they collectively have the same values and
they're like, yep, we pick him to be the leader and he has our best interests, you know, it's
easier. But when you talk about large scale issues that everyone has a different role in, right?
Like, this comes up with, you know, global warming all the time.
Well, this country is really trying hard to reduce all of its emissions, but this country doesn't care about it.
They don't prioritize it, and they are actually emitting more carbon into the atmosphere.
Like, at what point do we get people to work on that because they actually have their own self-interest for their own community?
tim pool
I just want to go back to this Van Jones thing real quick and just say, just to pause real quick, and just entertain this thought.
We had someone in the chat say, I heard that Tyree Nichols was banging some dude's wife.
And we're like, whoa, I mean, you know, we're wondering if there was something personal here, but we can't verify that.
CNN's running a story being like, oh, actually, the cops were white supremacists.
It's like, the first one's more believable.
This is the point.
This is the point right here.
ian crossland
We're the mainstream media.
tim pool
So it's like, if you came to me and said, here's a video of a man wailing on the face of another man, I'd be like, damn, what'd he do, bang the guy's wife?
Because it is a simple solution to assume they had a beef.
But then imagine a news anchor says, actually, we think the real reason is that that black man swinging his fists is actually a white supremacist.
So it's like, okay, so you want me to believe CNN, Van Jones, that those five black men were anti-black racists with internalized white supremacy as a more plausible reason as opposed to homeboy bang dude's wife.
ian crossland
Dave Chappelle did the skit with Leighton Bigsby, but he couldn't even pull it off.
He had to make the guy blind.
You can't just, he couldn't be like, if he saw his own skin color, you know, then the joke, it wouldn't even be funny.
You know, it's so ridiculous.
unidentified
They want you to believe that like racism and internal racism, it's like, it's more deadly than COVID.
You know, it's like literally the most dangerous thing out there that infects your mind and it can take a black person and make them actually hate black people and do something.
This is what they're saying with a straight face, which is amazing.
ian crossland
But I will say racism is disgusting.
When you talk to someone that actually is really racist and they say it and you're like, What?
What are you- it's gross!
But the thing is, Van Jones is softening it and making it so you don't- He's a racist!
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and I'd say one further, like, he wrote this for CNN, it has the opinion label on it, right?
But then someone else at CNN is gonna say, here are some facts you're reporting, and some people believe it was actually motivated by white supremacy, and they'll link to his article, but then it'll continue to be cycled and cycled and cycled until it becomes part of the normal narratives.
It's- These cops who were motivated by white supremacy beat this guy.
Like, it's- it's a kind of nasty cycle of absorbing these These guesses at what's going on.
tim pool
I agree, it's gross.
For me, I would phrase it as racism is annoying on an academic level, and it's gross on a personal level.
Like, we have a bunch of friends of the show who are a variety of different races, and just thinking about the fact that, like, a racist person would say something negative about any of the guests we've had on who are not white, I mean, these are good people.
You know, these are people of good opinion.
We have people like, uh, the Hoteps come on.
We have people like Andy Ngo, I know you mentioned, uh, earlier on.
But we have people of a bunch of different backgrounds.
And I'm like, these are all people who are good people.
That, that do good work, that agree with a lot of your opinions.
And then you'd have someone who just says, because of the way they look, I have a negative view.
I'm like, ah, that's the stupidest thing ever.
But, but the reason it's annoying to me Is that when you look at a situation like this with Tyree Nichols, we're asking ourselves, what is the context and circumstance that results in a conflict like this?
It is not because the men internalized white supremacy.
That makes literally no sense.
It's a strange crackpot conspiracy theory, but it's annoying to me because I'm like, yo, I'm trying to solve a problem here.
And it's like you're coming out, it's like watching someone with a Chinese finger trap pull as hard as they can and you're like, my guy, just stop, okay?
It's not the surface level solution on this one.
Sometimes maybe you could probably pull so hard you'll rip the thing apart, but we're trying to figure out why this happened.
And I don't think it's because Tyree Nichols was banging into his wife, but that certainly makes more sense.
It could simply be because the cops are frustrated and angry.
Maybe something happened earlier in the day.
Maybe Tyree was, they say it was reckless driving.
Some people are disputing that.
We have no idea.
But when Van Jones comes out and says, oh, it's because they were racist, it's like, bro, we're not going to solve the problem of what's happening with bad cops like this.
I'm not saying all cops.
When there are bad cops, if you just say racism, it's like, OK, actually, that cop was doing illegal deals and bribery.
You know, if we're going to actually hold them accountable, we need to hold them accountable for the things that are leading to this, not just racism.
unidentified
It's the racism industrial complex.
If racism disappeared tomorrow, think of how many people would be unemployed.
Our economy, every Democrat, every nonprofit would just go kaput.
There would be no need for half of them.
How many politicians would lose their jobs?
Like, I'm on Twitter today and I'm seeing, like, when I see Kamala Harris and Joe Biden talking about this guy, I don't know, it just really angered me about the situation in Duxbury, Mass., where they will never mention those three innocent children.
They will never mention them, but they will make it seem like this guy, this is the biggest deal in the world because racism is the biggest problem confronting our country.
Why would they want to cure for it when they can just keep selling the antidote and keep getting elected?
tim pool
Let's jump to the next story here, otherwise we're going to go in circles.
We have this from TimCast.com.
Breaking!
Da Pat Pelosi body camera footage released and oh boy, do I have a lot of questions that need to be answered.
Because, you know, we were hearing a lot about what happened with Paul Pelosi's attack.
We had a lot of questions about what seemed to not make sense.
The video seems to clarify a lot of what we didn't know, but oh boy does it raise a whole lot of questions about what was going on and uh, look, I don't know what happened.
All I know is it's a very, very weird video.
Now I do want to say, earlier today, I did a segment where I talked about how I thought it was more likely it was a drug deal gone wrong.
It makes more sense.
But then they did release the footage showing DaPap smashing the back door window.
And now I'm like, okay, I'm gonna walk that back.
Still think it's possible, but probably very unlikely because it would require them staging a broken window for some reason, which I don't know, maybe they did, but I really find it unlikely.
I'll just tell you this, in the video footage, you can see this right here, I got questions.
How is it that Paul Pelosi, in his underwear, is holding a drink of some sort?
And the hammer in DePap's hand.
And they're both at the door with the police.
And Paul Pelosi does not walk out to the police.
He just stands there looking in a stupor.
You look at his face and he's like, huh?
unidentified
He could run to them right there.
They're right there.
Why doesn't he just run to them?
ian crossland
Because DePap's got the hammer and Paul is trying to hold it.
Because when they say, hey, drop the hammer, DePap responds.
unidentified
You let go of that hammer.
The cop's pulling on the hammer.
You let go.
He falls back.
Run.
Just run to the cops.
They're right there.
ian crossland
I think they're hammered.
I think Paul Pelosi is drunk out of his mind, which is part of why they didn't want to release it, because he's in his boxers drunk at one in the morning with his drug dealer or whoever this guy is.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, he's in his own home.
To be fair to Paul, it's his home if he wants to be drunk in his boxer.
unidentified
Of course!
ian crossland
I don't think he's doing anything wrong.
I wish they had released this day one.
unidentified
I don't blame him for being a raging alcoholic.
You're 82 years old and married to Nancy Pelosi.
ian crossland
Party on, brother!
unidentified
Why wouldn't you be?
ian crossland
Well, it's the stock trading that really bothers me that his wife gives him inside deals, allegedly.
unidentified
Hold on, hold on.
tim pool
Back to the video.
We excused that, we excused the drinking.
So you can drink if you want.
unidentified
Go on with your bad self, Paul, but lay off the stock trades.
tim pool
I think the reason he doesn't run to the cops, he's plastered.
He's just drunk out of his mind.
ian crossland
Trying to stay calm.
serge du preez
Got no pants on.
unidentified
So he just gets drunk every night and this happened to me the night before.
tim pool
He got a DUI recently, didn't he?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
That's true, he did.
hannah claire brimelow
Didn't he kill someone in that DUI, too?
unidentified
No, he didn't kill anyone.
hannah claire brimelow
He injured someone.
He hit another car.
unidentified
Oh, really?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He didn't just, like, get a DUI and go on.
Like, he hit another car.
I can't remember if it was fatal or not.
tim pool
He's a drunk.
I think the guy breaks in.
Paul probably already had a drink, was probably just blasted out of his mind.
The pap's like, where's Nancy?
And he's like, oh, wow.
You know, just like, and then he calls 911.
You gotta listen to this 911 call.
unidentified
I haven't heard it.
tim pool
It does not make sense.
Yeah.
unidentified
It doesn't.
tim pool
People have said he's trying to deescalate.
A crazy man breaks into your house.
You don't wanna get into a fight with him.
You wanna talk him down, try and get the police there.
There's that old story where the woman is being abused by her boyfriend.
So she calls 911 and pretends like she's ordering a pizza.
And she's like, I'll have a large pepperoni.
And the dispatcher's like, ma'am, this is 9-1-1.
And she goes, yes, yes.
And they're like, ma'am, you can't order pizza here.
And she's like, yes, a large pepperoni.
Ma'am, are you saying this because someone is around you who will hurt you?
Yeah.
And they go, okay, what's your address?
And then they give the address and make it seem like it's a pizza.
But Paul Pelosi wasn't doing that.
He's like, I think I called you by mistake.
And then she's like, do you need emergency emergency services?
He goes, no.
What do you think?
And then DePap goes, I think it's good.
And she goes, and he goes, okay.
unidentified
DePap was on the tape?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, you can hear him.
tim pool
DePap's sitting with him.
And he's standing with him.
unidentified
I thought he was in the bathroom.
I thought he was like hiding in the bathroom.
hannah claire brimelow
That's what they told us originally.
tim pool
And he's like, she's like, do you need emergency fire or medical?
And he goes, I don't think so, I don't think so.
What do you think?
And then DePap goes, I think we're good.
And he goes, he says he thinks we're good, but he's not leaving.
And I'm just like, oh, hold on a minute.
ian crossland
Okay, so that's kind of like a hostage call.
tim pool
Isn't there a moment where Paul is like- Why would DePap be like, it is totally fine, you've called the police, and I'm standing here talking with you, and I'm your friend.
DePap even says, I'm a friend.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, but Paul has to ask him his name.
She's like, what's the guy's name?
And we hear David DePap go, David?
I mean, like, I don't know that they actually know each other.
tim pool
No, I'm not saying he did.
I'm just saying this doesn't make sense.
ian crossland
I'm sure they didn't know each other, so maybe the guy's not his dealer.
I had that narrative going on in my head.
Maybe it's just some random... No, no, no, for sure, for sure.
tim pool
But my question is then, why would DePap let Pelosi call 911, communicate with the dispatcher and Pelosi... Maybe he said he was calling Nancy.
unidentified
No, no, no.
Maybe he told the pap.
tim pool
She says he doesn't call him when he calls the San Francisco PD.
ian crossland
Do you have that call?
Is that call?
Can we listen to that?
unidentified
I'm pretty sure it's not.
I've never heard it.
tim pool
I think we do have it.
ian crossland
It's worth listening to.
tim pool
I just want to be careful.
unidentified
It's like breathing heavily during it.
All right.
tim pool
We're not getting any.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and he's slow to identify himself too.
And I don't know if that's on purpose or not.
unidentified
He keeps saying like.
Audio's not coming out.
serge du preez
Should be feeding.
tim pool
Oh, wait.
unidentified
This is San Francisco police.
Do you need help?
Oh, well, there's a gentleman here just waiting for my wife to come back.
Nancy Pelosi.
He's just waiting for her to come back, but she's not going to be here for a day, so I guess we'll have to wait.
Okay, do you need police, fire, or medical for anything?
Uh, I don't think so.
I don't think so.
Is the Capitol Police around?
No, this is San Francisco Police.
They're usually here at the house protecting my wife.
No, this is San Francisco Police.
They usually hear it. They usually hear it. The house.
Protect my wife.
No, this is San Francisco police.
Friday, October 28, 2022.
Okay, well, uh, and what do you think?
Do you think everything's good?
Uh, he thinks everything's good.
I've got a problem, but he thinks everything's good.
Okay.
tim pool
Okay, now hold on real quick.
I've got a problem, but he thinks everything's good.
Okay, maybe it's fair to say he is trying to de-escalate, and he's scared to say, please send police,
but he literally asked for the Capitol Police.
That doesn't make sense.
serge du preez
Saying that they're usually protecting his wife.
unidentified
Maybe he wanted to make the papi feel more at ease to know there's no cops around.
tim pool
But he could have been like, oh, I can call them and tell them to bring Nancy.
I'll call them right now.
Well, how did DaPap let him call 9-1-1, he denies wanting emergency medical, I'm sorry, emergency services, police or fire, but then asks if the Capitol Police are around?
unidentified
I think it sounds like he was making a phone call.
I bet he just tried to appease him and said, oh, we'll get Nancy.
Oh, you want Nancy?
I'll get Nancy on the phone right now.
And he makes a call.
tim pool
I must have called you by mistake.
unidentified
Yeah, because if you were DePappe, you would not know he was talking to 911 there.
hannah claire brimelow
It makes me think he called the Capitol Police or whoever secures his house normally first and didn't get a hold of them because he then is like, I must have called you by mistake because I'm actually looking for someone else.
Are Capitol Police around?
Like, he doesn't actually want to be talking to San Francisco Police.
He wants to be talking to Capitol Police.
tim pool
I think he actually called by mistake.
hannah claire brimelow
Don't you have a contact for them?
tim pool
By mistake?
I think Paul was drunk out of his mind and called them by mistake.
I don't know for sure, but think about this.
If DePap was going to let him make a phone call, why wouldn't he call his wife or the Capitol Police?
unidentified
Maybe that's what he said he was doing.
We don't know what he told them.
tim pool
Hold on.
DePap let him call the police.
unidentified
But did DePap know he was talking to police?
tim pool
He's literally talking to someone who says, do you want police?
unidentified
But is he on speakerphone?
tim pool
If he's not on speakerphone, why didn't he say, yes, send the police?
ian crossland
Probably because the pap was standing there with a hammer, like three feet away from him.
He's like, okay, I gotta be real smooth about this.
tim pool
We gotta pause real quick.
He's on the phone.
And they say, do you need police, fire, or medical?
No, I don't think so.
ian crossland
Because the pap's looking at him.
tim pool
So then why did he say, are the Capitol Police around?
unidentified
Because he wants to make the guy feel more at ease.
tim pool
Then why didn't he call the Capitol Police?
ian crossland
Because he's waiting.
unidentified
Because he's messing with the pap.
ian crossland
Drunk logic is no logic.
unidentified
Yes, yes, yes.
tim pool
Drunk logic is no logic.
Look, I'm sorry.
DaPap let him make a phone call, or he made a phone call and DaPap was getting angry.
But if he's concerned, if he was doing the secret thing where he's like, please send me a pizza, if DaPap can't hear, and she says, do you need police?
He could have been like, oh yeah, yeah, that'd be great.
But maybe DaPap can hear.
But then he literally says, is the Capitol Police around?
DaPap certainly heard that.
And if he was concerned, if he was concerned about DaPap's reaction, Why did he call SFPD, ask for the Capital Place instead, and say he doesn't want SFPD, when he could have taken his phone and called... Drunk logic is no logic.
He was... I think it's possible, because this doesn't make sense.
He was so drunk, he accidentally called SFPD, because he's got SFPD and Capital Place in his phone, and he's like... and he hits the wrong button.
Look, there's a million reasons he could have done this, but when I heard this, Everyone's saying it's de-escalation, he doesn't want DePap to get angry.
Well, DePap's standing next to him when he asks for the Capitol Police.
ian crossland
Maybe, but I hear a knock on the door.
Did you hear the knock?
If you pull it back right before he mentions the Capitol Police, you hear... four knocks.
unidentified
No, this is San Francisco Police.
No, I understand.
Okay, well... I don't know, what do you think?
Okay, well, uh, and what do you think?
ian crossland
No, it's before this.
unidentified
You think everything's good?
Uh, he thinks everything's good.
I've got a problem.
ian crossland
He's just waiting for her to come back.
unidentified
She's not going to be here for a day, so I guess we'll have to wait.
I don't think so.
She's not going to be here for a day, so I guess we'll have to wait.
Okay, do you need police, fire, or medical for anything?
Uh, I don't think so. I don't think so.
Yeah, why wouldn't he just say yes right there?
tim pool
Why would he say, I don't think so, but then say, are the Capitol Police around?
ian crossland
He might have closed- walked into a bathroom and closed the door.
unidentified
When he- right before he mentions the Capitol- What was that?
hannah claire brimelow
But it could be...
unidentified
Wait, uh...
0, 2, 23, and 58 seconds.
Yeah, there's the, uh...
tim pool
I don't think someone's knocking.
I think someone's putting something down on the dresser.
ian crossland
Maybe, maybe, maybe.
tim pool
This is like right before he opens the door, he's like, can you... Because of this call, they sent police out later on.
ian crossland
Yeah, but I mean, when he says, are the Capitol Police around?
And then he opens the door to let David in, something like that.
Like maybe David didn't hear him say that part.
unidentified
All I know is this is somehow Trump's fault.
tim pool
Somehow this is Trump's fault.
Somehow this is Trump's fault.
If David wasn't in the room with him, and he was on the phone with police, he would have said, send the police now, I need help.
So if David is in the room with him, the argument is that he didn't want to agitate DaPap.
But then he literally says, are the Capitol Police around?
ian crossland
So I'm wondering if he was like, David, I gotta go to the bathroom, hold on, we'll figure this out.
He goes into the bathroom, closes the door, makes the call.
Halfway through, right before, you hear a knock on the door, and he's like, are the Capitol Police around?
Because that's the knock.
And then he opens the door.
tim pool
Why wouldn't he close the door and say, okay, yes, please come?
unidentified
Yeah, why wouldn't he just lock the door and stay hiding in there?
tim pool
This is what's frustrating to me.
Why everyone is trying so hard to justify Paul Pelosi is innocent and was actually a victim when the call doesn't make sense.
ian crossland
I'm justifying it because the pap smashed his window to get into his house and hit him in the head with a hammer.
tim pool
But simply put, Paul Pelosi is drunk out of his mind and doesn't make sense.
So it's like, why try and twist yourself into a position to justify that Paul Pelosi's call makes no sense?
unidentified
I mean, a lot of people at first were saying the lover thing.
That was silly.
That was silly because if he was looking for a gay lover, he's rich and he's, you know, he wouldn't find a 300 pound fat loser like that.
He could find like a 40 year old.
tim pool
Maybe he likes them big.
unidentified
Maybe, I don't know, maybe he's got a fetish for it.
No judgment.
ian crossland
That guy was looking for Nancy for sure.
The way he said, he's here looking for my wife, like he says it all diplomatically.
unidentified
He's definitely looking for Nancy.
serge du preez
Yeah, that's what he says.
ian crossland
So he's trying to give David some hope, like, hey, maybe let's play through the call.
unidentified
They're usually here at the house protecting my wife.
No, this is San Francisco Police.
Friday, October 28, 2022.
Okay, well...
I don't know.
tim pool
What do you think?
ian crossland
What do you think?
unidentified
Should we get pepperoni too?
He thinks everything's good.
I've got a problem, but he thinks everything's good.
tim pool
Think about that.
Call us back if you need some help or whatever she said.
serge du preez
Change your mind.
tim pool
Or if you change your mind.
unidentified
No, no, no.
This gentleman just came into the house and he wants to wait here for my wife to come home.
Do you know who the person is?
No, I don't know who he is.
He told me not to do anything.
What is your address?
tim pool
Okay, this is just weird.
ian crossland
That sounds like a lie.
He probably knows who he is.
tim pool
It sounds like a lie because he's like, he's telling me not to do anything.
The dude's standing next to him.
He's literally asking DePap what he thinks.
But then telling the police, DePap says don't do anything, doesn't make sense.
What doesn't make sense is we can say Pelosi's drunk, but DePap is standing next to him being like, don't you call the police.
Oh, tell them my name is David.
What?
ian crossland
Yeah, I think DaPap expected that this phone call was going to result in Nancy coming over.
unidentified
That's what I was saying.
Like he was humoring him.
he's making him think that Nancy's gonna be here.
He's telling me to put the phone down and just do what he says.
Okay?
Okay, who?
What's the gentleman's name?
I don't know.
What's that?
My name's David.
ian crossland
Oh, he doesn't know.
tim pool
He can hear the dispatcher.
She said, what's his name, and he immediately responded, David DePette.
serge du preez
So he can't hear what they're saying, yeah.
tim pool
He can hear the dispatcher.
unidentified
The name is David.
Okay, and who is David?
I don't know.
What's that?
I'm a friend of theirs.
ian crossland
That's a lie.
unidentified
He says he's a friend, but as I said, I've never... But you don't know who he is?
No, ma'am.
Right there.
You're sending squad cars.
Okay.
Yeah.
Immediately.
Like, this is an emergency.
If you're the dispatcher.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's all.
So he didn't know David.
unidentified
That's all the dispatchers need to hear.
Like, you don't know who he is.
tim pool
Like, I mean, look, I'm not gonna sit here and pretend that everybody is smart enough to break this down, but if I was the 911 dispatcher, 9-1-1 dispatcher, and a guy called and said, yeah, some guy just came into my house and he's gonna wait here for my wife, I'd be like, what's your address?
Instantly, what's your address?
And then I'd call and be like, we got a report of someone entering someone's house, you guys wanna go check it out?
I'll keep him on the phone and try and figure out what's going on.
But this lady, This 9-1-1 dispatcher is just like, well, okay, I guess.
Like, are you kidding?
unidentified
You get these rogue dispatchers.
ian crossland
Do you guys ever hear that dispatch call where the guy got stabbed and he called 9-1-1?
He's like, I've been stabbed, I'm bleeding out.
And she's like, where are you?
And yeah, really, where are you at?
He's like, I don't know, or something.
She's like, it's a confrontation.
tim pool
There was one where two kids got shot in a drive-by.
And then two young guys, young adults, man, like 20 years old, and they call and they're like, help, help, I've been shot.
And she goes, calm down.
Whereas like, I'm dying.
I'm here.
Here's the address.
And she goes, if you keep talking to me like that, that's what it was.
ian crossland
That's what I'm thinking of.
unidentified
These people, like a lot of these 911 dispensers, like RMV employees, they're the grumpiest people.
Like dude, I'm in crisis.
Aren't you used to this?
Like every person in college is in crisis.
Have you never dealt with a crazy person before?
You're like, I'm sorry.
I don't talk to people unless you talk to me in a calm voice.
You're 9-1-1, probably.
serge du preez
It could be, like, compassion fatigue.
You know, they do this all the time.
It could be them, like, being to the point where, like, they've just done it all day.
They don't know if there could be people that call in to the same day that were pranking them the whole time.
You never know.
You know what I mean?
I totally get what you're saying.
hannah claire brimelow
There are a ton of people who call in insanely hysterical over something that, like, if you're the 9-1-1 dispatcher, starts to feel small in comparison.
Like, the next person calls you with the murder.
Person before that calls you because someone bumped their car.
ian crossland
Look at the Veritas video from yesterday.
The guy called the cops for that.
For asking him questions.
hannah claire brimelow
The cops are like... Sorry to interrupt.
No, it's okay.
I think the weird thing to me is that, like, she's like, well, so Paul's back.
And Paul's like, no, I have a problem.
I don't want him to be here.
Like, I can't explain the beginning of the call.
It is weird, no matter how you look at it.
I personally tend to lean towards, like, yeah, I think it does seem like he's trying to, like, alert someone.
And I still have the instinct that he maybe tried to get a hold of Capitol Police first, and it didn't work out.
tim pool
I just gotta, I gotta, I gotta stop real quick.
Take everything into consideration with the 9-1-1 call, and then take into consideration that he answers the door with the police, holding a beverage.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
Maybe it's water.
hannah claire brimelow
That he won't put down!
tim pool
That he won't put down.
And when DaPap twists the hammer out of his hand, he still won't drop his drink to try and stop the hammer.
ian crossland
Alcoholism.
unidentified
It's a good drink.
Maybe!
ian crossland
That's some Alpha thing.
He's like trying to establish like, yo, I'm in control here.
unidentified
I don't know.
hannah claire brimelow
It's $6,000 whiskey.
He's like, it's not worth it.
tim pool
It's not I'm not dropping.
unidentified
He's not buying the cheap stuff.
hannah claire brimelow
No.
tim pool
I mean, Nancy's got that $20 ice cream or whatever, you know, in the fridge.
Remember that?
ian crossland
Maybe Paul felt like the cops are gonna get this guy off of me.
So let's just move on.
hannah claire brimelow
Some people in a crisis situation are good at staying calm and trying to talk the person down stuff like that.
But like, I don't know that Paul Pelosi is maybe he is but to then walk around with your your like nightcap is very strange.
tim pool
I'm gonna play this.
There's only a few more seconds.
unidentified
Let me jump in.
Here we go.
Let's play the rest.
He's telling me I'm being very leading, so I gotta stop talking to you, OK?
He's being very what?
Leading?
Come on.
OK.
OK.
Thank you.
talking to you okay? Okay, you sure I can get on the phone with you just to make sure everything's okay? No, you must
really get that off the phone. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Okay, bye. I'm on Paul's side here.
tim pool
I don't understand why, considering we heard all of that, he didn't say to David, if you want me to call Nancy, I can call the people who drive around, take care of her, it's the police, I'll call them and let them know and tell them to bring her over.
unidentified
He would have believed it.
tim pool
I mean, he literally said on the phone, I want Capitol Police.
I don't understand why he said, are the Capitol Police there, instead of just saying, Any police will do.
ian crossland
He was probably panicking as he was drunk and not used to this kind of thing, because a lot of it was just kind of desperate.
Capital Police, when he's on the San Francisco 911 call and he asks for Capital Police, that's a weird desperation.
hannah claire brimelow
That's why I want to know, why is he like, I need Capital Police?
If you're drunk and you're in an emergency, even if you're managing to stay weirdly calm, As soon as you get any kind of police, wouldn't you be like, yes, yes.
Like, to me, it's interesting that he is specifically like, I don't know that I want to talk to you, but I definitely want to talk to Capitol Police.
ian crossland
It's also possible that Capitol Police has a contingent in San Francisco watching the Pelosi's house that are in touch with the police department, but 911 dispatcher didn't know that.
tim pool
Philip R. super chatted that he was trying to speak in code, telling her that he was Pelosi's husband.
I do agree with that.
He says, You know, he's waiting for my wife, Nancy Pelosi.
And it's just like, the funny thing about that is like, my guy, nobody knows who that is.
Go, nobody knows who that is.
I will, I will, I will, we should make it.
unidentified
Who Nancy Pelosi is?
tim pool
Nobody knows who Nancy Pelosi is.
hannah claire brimelow
I think there are tons of people who couldn't name the speaker of the house.
tim pool
I'd be willing to bet.
hannah claire brimelow
You're in the news, you're biased.
tim pool
Go to Times, go to Times Square, and I will give you 10 bucks for every person who says they know who Nancy Pelosi is.
serge du preez
Yeah.
unidentified
What percentage of the country do you think knows who Nancy Pelosi is?
ian crossland
Adults?
How many adults?
tim pool
Oh, 12.
unidentified
12%.
That's it?
tim pool
Yep.
unidentified
What?
ian crossland
I was thinking that today.
unidentified
I think she's one of the most identifiable.
tim pool
Have you ever watched Fleca's videos?
unidentified
I have.
tim pool
Where he goes on the street and asks them basic questions like, name a country that starts with the letter U, and they go, uh, I don't know.
It's like, United States of America?
unidentified
It's kind of a trick question.
ian crossland
I was thinking last night how I'm in an echo chamber, even though I'm trying to be open-minded.
I texted my buddy out in L.A.
and I was like, what do people in your zone think about Ukraine?
Do they want an escalation?
Because I'm in kind of like a libertarian, conservative echo chamber, and everybody wants out of there.
They want the U.S.
not involved.
And so he messaged back, he's like, we want peace, we want Russia to not be invading.
And it's like, man, I still have portals to people in other echo chambers, and even social media is intensifying that.
hannah claire brimelow
How many people do you think right now know who Kevin McCarthy is?
friends who are not at all interested in politics but could tell you everyone
who's competing on the Bachelorette and I love them dearly but they just have
lives and jobs and they don't follow the news super intensely they're all smart
and wonderful they probably don't know who the Speaker of the House. How many
tim pool
people do you think right now know Kevin McCarthy is? Less than Nancy Pelosi.
Nancy? I think she's more famous than him.
Maybe only because she was Speaker than not than Speaker and she's been in for a really long time, but I would be willing to bet that if you went out into Times Square and spent one eight-hour shift, it would not financially harm me to pay you $10 for every individual you interview that says, I know who Nancy Pelosi is.
She was the Speaker of the House in the 117th and 16th Congress.
Some people, you know what I would say?
I would say half correct answers, like, she that Democrat lady?
I'll accept that.
But I'd be willing to bet, after eight hours of asking people, I might end up losing, in Times Square, I don't know, a couple hundred bucks.
ian crossland
All right, Mark Dice, go do it!
Full transparency.
unidentified
I want to see all of them though.
Show me everybody.
I would say 45%.
45%.
ian crossland
I'm going to go low.
I'm going to be about 12, 10%, 15%.
tim pool
12 or 10%.
ian crossland
She's just not that interesting.
No offense, Nancy, but I mean, it's a politician.
People aren't really into that kind of thing.
We're in a really unique environment.
tim pool
How about this one?
Ask someone who their current congressional rep is.
unidentified
Oh, that they would not know.
That they would not know.
Unless you're Congresswoman's AOC or somebody famous like that, you're not going to know who they are.
Most people aren't going to know who they are.
I agree with that.
tim pool
How many followers does Pelosi have on Twitter is an interesting question.
unidentified
That is a good question.
ian crossland
Twitter also is a tough one because it is like a political social network.
It's very political. People on Twitter probably, how many people on Twitter know who Nancy is?
hannah claire brimelow
She's got 8.1 million followers. But how many followers on Instagram does she have, right?
That's a good point. I feel like there are more people who are on that platform.
unidentified
She doesn't run her account. Like, she's way too old.
tim pool
That's not what, that's not why I asked though. I don't care about if she runs the account or not.
It's do regular, 1.5 million on Instagram. Decent. How many people?
But a significant drop off, right? Right. How many, Twitter is the news and politics space.
Instagram is casual celebrity.
1.5 million followers.
I'm sorry, bro, that's nothing.
serge du preez
Yeah, it's not that big.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, it's less than AOC, who, remember, after she got elected, very famously did her skincare routine on the train down from New York to DC.
Like, she is working the crowd that she thinks will elect her.
tim pool
AOC's got 8.6 million Instagram followers.
unidentified
But what, 14 million Twitter, I think?
tim pool
AOC on Twitter?
unidentified
Yeah, I think she's like 14 million on Twitter.
tim pool
You want someone to lug it up?
Let's do, uh... Yeah.
I think she's the top congresswoman for, uh... Casey Neistat has 3 million followers.
unidentified
Who's that?
Casey!
tim pool
Exactly!
unidentified
Is he a congressman?
No!
tim pool
No, he's a YouTuber.
hannah claire brimelow
I love that you think he is!
unidentified
Who's Casey Neistat?
tim pool
Casey Neistat is the, they call him the godfather of vlogging.
ian crossland
He's like the liberal version of Michael Malice.
unidentified
Of logging?
tim pool
No!
ian crossland
They look alike.
unidentified
Like logs?
Like in a river?
tim pool
Vlogging.
unidentified
Oh, vlogging, okay.
tim pool
Casey, vlogs before Casey Neistat were like people with their phones filming themselves.
And then he brought cinematic editing and production to YouTube vlogging gained 10 million subscribers.
He's got 3 million followers on Instagram.
He's on magazine covers and you don't know who he is.
unidentified
That dude's gonna hate me now.
tim pool
No, he's a cool dude.
unidentified
My bad, my bad, dude.
tim pool
You're a politico.
unidentified
I'm gonna follow you.
tim pool
And you think everybody's gotta know who Nancy Pelosi is, but she's got less than half the followers of Casey Neistat.
And he's a mainstream celebrity you've never heard of.
ian crossland
For the record, Alexandria Cortez has 13.4 million on Twitter.
hannah claire brimelow
Is that her professional account or is that her personal?
ian crossland
It just says at AOC, so I guess that's personal.
unidentified
That was the one that existed before she was a congresswoman.
ian crossland
What do you guys think about a congressman having their own and a congressional one?
What I don't like about at POTUS, for instance, as the President of the United States, is that it gets handed off to the next guy.
unidentified
Yeah.
What about the DMs?
So no private DMs on there?
Probably get scrubbed.
ian crossland
I guess it makes sense.
unidentified
Imagine Bill Clinton had one.
He's texting Monica on the DMs.
Then he's got to hand it over to the next guy.
hannah claire brimelow
Bush is like, what's happening here?
No, I mean, I think I like the intent, right?
Like to be like, this is my personal opinion versus like how I am representing my constituents online.
But I think it's especially, it's really easy to conflate the two.
And if you say like, oh, but I said that on my personal account, are you supposed to be held less accountable to it?
You know what I mean?
tim pool
You know who Billie Eilish is?
I do.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
108 million followers.
So it's like an entirely different league.
unidentified
But that's like girl, like she looks like a little boy and she's got a high voice, right?
ian crossland
No, she's a singer.
hannah claire brimelow
She's a pop singer.
unidentified
He got it.
She looks like a little boy, doesn't she?
hannah claire brimelow
No, because you're thinking that because she dresses in baggy clothes.
Oh, maybe.
ian crossland
You might think so.
unidentified
She's definitely not sexy.
ian crossland
Kind of like green hair.
Well, it depends on who you ask.
unidentified
She's young.
ian crossland
Yes, she's like 20.
unidentified
And she's wicked woke.
serge du preez
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
She performed at the Democratic National Convention.
tim pool
But does it mean she's woke or is she just like default?
unidentified
Like insanely woke.
Purple hair, like one of those people.
serge du preez
No, not necessarily.
Just because of the way she dresses doesn't mean she's super woke.
She also has like views against pornography, etc.
She's staunchly anti-pornography.
unidentified
So she's a Matt Walsh fan?
But she's definitely a Democrat.
tim pool
The reason I bring her up is just because I'm like, who's the most famous younger person I can think of?
And you know who that was.
I don't know.
I don't think that many people would know who Nancy Pelosi is.
Actually, I'll set up a poll.
Your followers are all going to know who she is.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, I mean, it makes a difference.
And we're measuring off of Twitter and Instagram.
Like we said, Twitter is much more political.
It's more news oriented.
Instagram is more lifestyle.
There are a lot of people who like it.
We're not talking about Facebook because I don't think anyone is super involved in Facebook anymore.
And let's remember that Gen Z is actually going to measure you based on how many followers you have on TikTok, right?
Which I'm confident Nancy Pelosi is.
I hate TikTok.
If she's on TikTok, she's far behind any of the TikTok celebrities.
ian crossland
Do you have a TikTok account, Aidan?
serge du preez
I have it.
unidentified
I don't want to use it.
I just don't want to give in because it's literally owned by, it's Chinese spyware.
And I'm just telling myself, no, no, no.
But when you're in my line of work and you're doing, you know, blogs and you're talking about pop culture and stuff, it's like everything is on TikTok.
It's literally impossible to avoid.
It sucks.
tim pool
Do you know what the third amendment is?
unidentified
Ah, I taught history, I should know this.
No, I forget.
tim pool
That dude in January 6th who put his feet on Pelosi's desk, he was asked by the prosecutor, First Amendment, you know it.
unidentified
Oh, it's where the British can't sleep in your house.
serge du preez
Correct.
hannah claire brimelow
You don't have to house soldiers.
tim pool
It's the government can't quarter soldiers in your home.
And it actually came up during COVID, but they asked that dude who put his feet on Pelosi's desk, they were like, do you like the First Amendment?
Yes.
What is it?
Do you like the Second Amendment?
Do you know what the Third Amendment is?
And he says, no.
Recently, there was a judge being nominated.
This one was really funny.
And the judge was asked, I can't remember who asked it, do you know what Article 5 of the Constitution is?
I saw that.
And she said, it doesn't come to mind.
And he goes, OK, how about Article 2?
And she goes, it doesn't come to mind.
Article 2, a judge not knowing, is insane.
Article 5, it's like— It's the amendments one.
unidentified
5 is the amendments, right?
tim pool
The Convention of States.
unidentified
OK.
tim pool
Article 2 is the executive branch.
So and she was like, I have no idea.
It's like, come on, dude.
Wow.
unidentified
But you know, I- Did he know that she wasn't going to get that question right?
tim pool
Yes.
unidentified
Ahead of time?
tim pool
But here's why I bring that up.
It's like when a judge can't tell you about the executive branch article in the Constitution, I don't think the average person is going to be able to tell you who Nancy Pelosi is.
Now, with the poll, the poll's got 2,580 votes.
75% people, do people know who Nancy Pelosi is?
75% say yes.
hannah claire brimelow
But for this show, right, you should go on any huge lifestyle Instagram tip, like whatever, someone who doesn't talk about politics and ask their audience.
unidentified
The majority of the country does not vote in the midterms.
Less than 50% votes in the midterms.
serge du preez
And still, for our audience, 25% of the audience not know who Nancy Pelosi is, unless they're trolling, still out of like 2,000 votes, you know, it goes to show you that some people literally don't know who she is.
ian crossland
Do you know it just as do people know?
tim pool
I changed it to, do Normies know who Pelosi is?
And now it's no.
So I wonder if the people in the chat were thinking it meant them.
Like, do you know who Pelosi is?
hannah claire brimelow
They're all great and informed.
ian crossland
That's the same thing we were just talking about projection earlier.
When you know things, there's an assumption that other people know it.
tim pool
Exactly.
ian crossland
We are in an echo chamber.
tim pool
Dude, I talked to Bannon about the election 2020 and he was like, you know, he thinks Trump won and all that stuff and I was like, a friend of
mine posted a video of him carrying his mail-in ballot while filming. He's got his phone like
this and he's carrying it, he drops it in the mailbox and I'm like, this dude couldn't
tell you what Supreme Court justice meant.
He would just, like you'd say, what does Supreme Court justice mean? Is that when like you win a
case in the Supreme Court? He wouldn't even do Taco Bell seasoning sauce?
I mean, not that bad.
He'd be like, does that mean, like, you got justice and, like, you won?
It's like, no, it means the people who are the literal judges who determine these things.
He couldn't tell you even the concept of that.
If you go to these people, like, these are people I know who skateboard.
These are people I know play music.
I can hit up any one of my friends and ask them about one of these things and they'll just be like, I got no idea what you're talking about.
I will say to them, name a sitting Supreme Court justice.
And they'll go, a sitting justice?
What does that mean?
Do you mean like a current case or something?
No, no, no, like the justices, right?
Like the people who sit on the Supreme Court.
Oh, yeah, I have no idea.
And I'm not talking about stupid people.
I'm talking about a guy who could tell you how to rebuild a car.
He can break a whole thing down for you and put it together and be like, I don't pay attention to that stuff.
So that's just me, that's just me.
Right now I said, do Normies know who Pelosi is?
63% said no.
Maybe, I don't know.
unidentified
And that's fine.
I have no problem with ignorant people who don't follow politics.
We just should not be encouraging them to vote.
And that's the problem is Democrats are encouraging the dumbest people to vote because their strength in numbers.
And so they're like, well, you know nothing about politics, but trust me, just vote for this person and we're going to, here's a bunch of ballots for you and have them by here by this date in the box.
Just drop it in there and things will get better if you do that.
tim pool
I gotta read this super chat that came in from Paul A. He says, Tim, you keep asking who opened the door at Pelosi's house.
Why do you think they had an exorcism?
Math checks out.
There you go.
hannah claire brimelow
I told you, I thought it was haunted.
tim pool
You know she had an exorcism, right?
unidentified
Who?
Pelosi.
hannah claire brimelow
On herself?
tim pool
At the house.
What did that mean?
They brought in priests.
ian crossland
Those guys are crazy hippies.
tim pool
I didn't know.
unidentified
What did that mean?
ian crossland
No wonder they're in San Francisco.
tim pool
I don't know.
hannah claire brimelow
They brought in priests.
They're Catholics, right?
ian crossland
They probably thought like dark energy.
unidentified
They take your soul out or something?
I don't even know what happens in that.
hannah claire brimelow
It's like you cast demons out of whatever it's in and she thinks it's in.
I saw someone who was like, they did that, did the souls of all the dead babies she's
allowed to be murdered come out of her walls or something like that because like she's
Catholic but then she's for abortion.
I mean I respect that she's like I want to get rid of whatever bad vibes are in my house
because my husband got attacked but I don't know.
unidentified
Oh, she did that afterwards.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I don't know if the poltergeist is the one who opened the door.
unidentified
She really did that?
Yeah.
It's the first I heard.
hannah claire brimelow
I've seen it.
New York Post reported on it.
unidentified
Did she talk about it?
Did she tell the world?
ian crossland
She should've video recorded it and made a documentary on it.
unidentified
That would've been awesome.
tim pool
We should totally make a paranormal activity style movie about the Pelosi's house being haunted and how it all went down.
ian crossland
The ghost of Sam Hyde.
unidentified
The biggest thing with the Pelosi thing, It's more of an indictment on San Francisco that there are so many people out there like this that can just walk.
Like, I assume they live in the rich part of town, but his fat ass ended up over there and got inside the house.
And it's just like, that to me is the bigger part of the story.
Like, San Francisco is turned into a hellhole where fat lardos like DePapier's walking around.
tim pool
I think we could totally write an awesome horror movie script that Propaganda is everything that happened, like, DePap is at the house, and they're having drinks together, and then, you know, he's like, I'm gonna go out for a smoke, he goes in the backyard, and then the door slams, and the ghost appears in the window, going, mwa-ha-ha, he's like, no!
And he takes the hammer and smashes it through the window to try to get back in.
ian crossland
He's like, I gotta save Paul!
tim pool
He's trying to get back in.
ian crossland
He like, goes into his body.
tim pool
He's swinging the hammer at the ghost, but the ghost is like, just moving around, and then all of a sudden they hear a knock at the door, and then Paul looks, and they're like, now what?
And they open it, and then the ghost goes into DePap, And then he's like, what's happening?
unidentified
No!
ian crossland
He goes in through his butt.
tim pool
That's why the cop reached into the... In the video, you can see the cop reach into the pap's butt.
unidentified
Yeah, I saw the crack.
tim pool
It was weird.
It was a lot.
ian crossland
You know, like, you said how weird it is.
hannah claire brimelow
San Francisco is a crazy place.
tim pool
That's why they said the video was graphic.
unidentified
And, like, Pelosi's, like, dying.
ian crossland
Oh, so we can't show that part?
It's pretty brutal, but it really is telling that Paul is not the villain in this one, I think.
When David... I mean, David just turns and smashes him in the head, and then you hear Paul like... You don't actually see it.
unidentified
You don't, but he's convulsing.
tim pool
And like, if it's an act, I mean, that's, I'm just saying you said you, you see him, you see him make, make a swing, but it's off shot.
ian crossland
Right.
They leave the frame and that's when the connection is made, but then they run around the corner.
You see blood on the ground.
You hear Paul gasping.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
I think it's worth pointing out that David's lawyers were against this video coming out because they said it would be incriminating to him.
And also, he's entered a not guilty plea, but not not guilty by reason of mental insanity or defect, right?
So, like, I wonder if they'll change that now that this is out.
They'll be like, oh, well, he was having a mental break and that was what was going on.
tim pool
What time was that?
Carlo Magno says, Tim, we Catholics do not claim Pelosi.
Bring back the potato man.
We need his voice.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, I never said you claimed her.
I just meant that she claimed you guys.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
Bring back the potato man.
Who's the potato man?
hannah claire brimelow
Seamus.
ian crossland
Seamus Coughlin.
unidentified
MD.
ian crossland
No, he's not really a doctor.
tim pool
Yeah.
There was some other news we were going to talk about.
What's going on?
I'm chilling.
We're having a good time.
ian crossland
This Pelosi thing's great.
I feel like this is a resolution to something that's kind of, was a big deal, then kind of went to the back of my brain.
I'm so glad I saw that video because I, It makes things make a lot more sense that some crazy wacko smashed a window and hit a guy in the head.
That's a lot easier to believe.
unidentified
It's literally how that guy from NBC described it, who I believe was fired or censored.
He described exactly what happened in the video, and then they want to hide it.
I don't know why they want to hide it, because maybe they're embarrassed because he's in his underpants.
ian crossland
Yeah, and he's drunk, debauchery.
unidentified
What time was it at, this happened?
ian crossland
One in the morning, two in the morning, something like that.
serge du preez
That's the thing.
Do we have time frames on all these things?
Because there's no Super Chat talking about the time frames.
tim pool
Well, you see, the reason why they didn't want it released was because they needed time to stage it.
They bring in the actors.
hannah claire brimelow
They actually just shot that.
unidentified
Yeah, it was filmed.
It was the other day.
ian crossland
It looks just like him.
I want to hear about you, Aidan, for a minute, because you told me earlier you got Turtle Boy News.
unidentified
Yes.
ian crossland
So how did you get into this whole industry?
unidentified
So I was an 11th grade history teacher at a public school in Massachusetts and I started a blog using my real name called AidenFromWorcester.com and I got in trouble for it because some of my opinions were the wrong ones basically, like you're not allowed to have controversial takes or whatever.
And I got suspended for five days with no pay and I was, it's hard to fire a teacher, but I was this close.
Like they're like one more slip up because of my social media postings and you're out.
So I'm like, if I want to keep doing this, I need to be anonymous.
So I created a blog called Turtle Boy.
There's a funny statue in downtown Worcester of a boy who looks like he's having sex with a turtle.
If you Google it, he's actually riding it.
It's completely innocent, but it's like the first thing people think of when they think of Worcester.
So it was called the blog Turtle Boy.
And it started being anonymous.
I did it while I was teaching.
And then we went to a game in Buffalo in September of 2014 to watch the Patriots murder the Bills again.
And I filmed Buffalo fans up there because they're crazy and wild.
And I was in the Porta Potty.
They tried to shake it, dumping me over.
It was an awesome time.
And I came home, I put the videos all on my blog, and it kind of went viral in Buffalo.
And so all these Buffalo people wanted to find out like who's this guy making fun of us
and saying we're savages and blah, blah, blah.
Somebody found out.
I got doxxed and a Buffalo blogger wrote a blog about me saying this is the guy that shit on our city and blah, blah, blah.
And next thing you know, our school was being inundated with emails.
I was getting cc'd on all of them, like, you haven't, you know, Horrible words, basically.
The school was getting threats and a police officer from Dudley had to come up to my classroom before the last period of the day and say, we gotta get you out of here.
And so they brought me down to the principal's office.
The union was there and they're like, we just want to make sure you're okay.
We're going to give you paid time off and just go and we'll figure this out.
They were going to And basically the resolution was they offered me a full year salary to walk away.
And I took it because I'm like, well, I don't want to be a teacher anymore.
It was getting to the point, like I got right out before Trump, right out before, there was no transgender students when I was there.
I don't even know, like none of that stuff existed in 2014.
ian crossland
What year?
unidentified
2014.
2014.
And so I'm like, and so I started doing this.
It was right around the Ferguson stuff too.
And I'm like, I turned it into a business.
I just got a bunch of advertisers.
I lost them all to boycotts.
Then I got banned from Google AdSense.
I had to create a new page, tbdailynews.com.
It used to be called turtleboysports.com.
And like I said, I've overcome countless, unprecedented, I would say, censorship and de-platforming.
I've been sued more times than I can count, undefeated in court.
I have multiple restraining orders on people who are constantly threatening me and my family, and it's been a struggle at times.
There's been many times I've wanted to quit, but I've dedicated my life to this, so this is what I'm doing.
ian crossland
It sounded like in 2014 you were one of the early, maybe not a victim, but someone that was affected by a cancel culture mob.
unidentified
Totally.
ian crossland
Did you know other people that were also going through that at that time?
unidentified
No, I didn't.
Big thing I noticed and what upset me was I'm like, so I can't say these things because I'm a teacher like that's what they said.
I had an opinion.
I wrote a blog.
I don't know if you guys remember the Richie incognito story player in the Miami Dolphins.
He was accused of bullying his teammate Jonathan Martin and my take on it was I'm like, give me a break 300 pound man getting bullied.
It's football.
You guys run into each other.
And the school told me that this blog violates our anti-bullying
policy because a student could read it and then feel uncomfortable
going to you with bullying issues.
And that's when I realized that there's no such thing as free speech
for public servants.
I'm like, I can't say this.
So if I was an accountant, I could say this. But because I'm a teacher,
I can't say this.
What about my First Amendment rights?
tim pool
The government employees don't have First Amendment rights.
unidentified
I learned that the hard way.
They really don't have First Amendment rights. But I like the First Amendment.
and I really like, I don't like censoring myself.
I hate censoring myself.
And I'm like, I just took a chance.
You know, it's the American spirit of just quitting your job.
I mean, teaching is a comfortable position.
Like you're never going to be rich, but you'll never be poor.
You'll have a pension, you know, when you're going to retire and your whole life is basically written out for you and you'll get a house at the Cape at the end of it and you'll move on.
But I'm like, you know what?
That's no way to live.
I want to take a chance.
I want to do something here.
And here I am sitting with you fine people.
So I think it worked out, man.
ian crossland
What were you teaching?
unidentified
I taught United States history.
ian crossland
So have you been still teaching history through your blog?
unidentified
You know, I got to keep up on a little more.
I went to Harper's Ferry.
ian crossland
I came in out here and that was really surreal because I love the battery, the old battery where they built the weapons.
It's all like down to rubble.
They came in and they burned it to the ground.
unidentified
Yeah, he needed a better plan.
That didn't work out too well.
Maybe if he had Twitter, he could have figured something out.
But yeah, I mean, I love United States history.
I often incorporate it into a lot of blogs that I write, just the perspectives on this stuff.
And I'm one of those teachers, like a lot of people think that like the public schools are infected by liberal teachers.
There are a lot of liberal teachers, but there's also a lot of really good history teachers.
My department, the majority of the social studies department at Sheppard Hill voted for I can say that without a doubt.
I made sure my number one goal as a teacher was to make sure my students at the end of the year had no idea who I voted for.
And they did.
And I think any good teacher, that should be your goal.
Your students should have no idea who you voted for.
You should present.
Every time I brought up a controversial issue that I would teach about, like abortion, and I have strong opinions on it, but I'm not going to vocalize it.
I'm going to say, here is what the pro-choice side says.
Here is what the pro-life says.
These ideas are in conflict.
And you get to make your own decisions based on those things.
And unfortunately, like you see on Libs at TikTok, a lot of, you know, a lot of teachers don't do that.
ian crossland
And also, it sounds like if you do go on social media and express yourself, then that also just kind of upends that intention of them not knowing what your political views are because you've expressed them on social media.
unidentified
Right.
And that's where, you know, you get in trouble.
You're like, you know, my social media was pretty private and I got in trouble one time.
I was going to say, like, typically teachers and students are not supposed to be Oh, I was never friends with any students or anything like that.
But they're like, well, this kid, a kid could see it because you're friends with this person and this person's friends with this person.
And then they might see it that way.
I mean, that's how ridiculous this was.
Schools are petrified of any sort of controversy like that when it comes to one side of the
aisle.
You can be as radical as you want as a leftist and write the most insane pro-BLM things on
your Facebook page to the cows come home, you're not going to get in trouble.
But if you have the wrong conservative opinions on social media, that's an issue.
ian crossland
You think if you were in a private school, it would have been different?
unidentified
It would have been even worse, because there's no unionization at a private school.
I'm not anti-union at all.
The union protected me with this.
hannah claire brimelow
They got you a deal, it sounds like.
unidentified
They got me a deal, as much as they could.
That's what you pay union dues for, is for emergencies.
It's basically insurance, in case something bad happens.
There were teachers that were wrongly accused of touching kids, and the union was there for them.
Like the first thing they taught us at Shepard Hill was if you ever have a girl for extra help, Do it in the hallway.
Never in your room.
Never have a kid in your room, ever.
I got there right after a sex scandal, if you Google her, Amber Jennings, hot, hot, hot, hot, had sex with a 15 year old student.
I was asked at my interview, I swear to God, he asked me at this interview, he's like, so you're a young guy, you're 24, so what would you do if a young student came on to you and tried to hit on you?
It's like, Well, I would tell her, no, this is inappropriate.
Like, I don't know what the right answer is.
Do some people say, yeah, I would hook up with her?
Like, no.
tim pool
That's so crazy.
They didn't even ask.
Like, oh, I'd call the police and report it and leave the room.
Yeah, it's such an awkward question.
unidentified
I'd tell her it's inappropriate and I'd probably email her mom and say, this is what happened in school today.
ian crossland
You think that's the right move is to contact the parents?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
You got to cover your bases, man.
You cannot take any chances.
Like a kid goes home and starts saying, Mr. Carney, hit on me, you know, something like that.
You got to get out of that.
You got to be, you got to get ahead of that because some of these kids are twisted.
Yeah.
tim pool
Don't be alone.
unidentified
Yeah.
Never.
I was never alone with a student in the classroom.
ian crossland
We used to have a guidance counselor in their little office and go sit down in their little office with them.
Maybe they didn't have, maybe they had cameras.
It was, it was the nineties at that point though.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
They probably don't do that anymore.
unidentified
Nope.
tim pool
Because now some kid comes out and says to the counselor, uh, I want a free period after, you know, lunch or whatever and say, well, you can't have that.
Well, I'm just going to say that you had racist things to me.
And they'll go, uh, so you're not alone anymore.
I mean, probably some schools are doing it, but they're in for a rude awakening with these kids are going to be doing.
ian crossland
Do you also go to the, uh, the, uh, principal if they, if a kid comes to you and is hitting on you or something?
unidentified
Well, that never happened luckily.
Um, so.
hannah claire brimelow
But I think you'd probably tell everyone.
unidentified
I would tell everyone.
I mean, I was 24 when I first started there, and I'm young, and some of the seniors would hint at inappropriate things.
They would ask the first question.
They would say things like, so, do you go out on the weekends?
And I'm like, I know where this is going.
And I'm like, I want to make myself seem like such a square loser that they don't even ask.
Like, I'm so lame.
Like, no, that's inappropriate.
And it stops real quick.
They're like, this guy's lame.
And that's the way I wanted to come across.
I didn't want to be the cool teacher.
The cool teachers are shitty teachers, quite frankly.
They're in it for the wrong reasons.
I wanted to be the lame teacher that taught you history.
And that's what I took pride in.
There was three junior classes in the school.
And my students did on average 10 to 12 points higher at the test at the end of the year
than the other kids because I made sure we got up to present day American history.
A lot of teachers only made it to like JFK or maybe Vietnam.
But I made sure we got through Reagan and Carter and even Clinton.
We talked about the Kanye West.
I remember showing the Kanye West Hurricane Katrina one.
We ended with Katrina, you know, so we got up to the present day.
And I took a lot of pride in that because I was there to educate.
I wasn't there to be your friend.
I wasn't there to hook up with girls.
And I just don't understand the teachers that go into it.
It's like, what is wrong?
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think some teachers go into it looking for validations from a younger audience?
unidentified
I think a lot of the teachers that you see that have had sexual affairs with students, I think they're the people that didn't get laid in high school, right?
That were just like, and like didn't, they weren't.
And now for the first time, I have a feeling there's a lot of budding teachers in chat, people listening that are preparing to become teachers or want to become teachers.
What did you do to get a 13% better value in your test scores, particularly?
one and I don't know what they're thinking.
ian crossland
I have a feeling there's a lot of budding teachers in chat, people listening that are
preparing to become teachers or want to become teachers.
What did you do like to get a 13% more better value in your test scores particularly?
Were you able to gauge what you were doing versus what other teachers were doing?
unidentified
A lot of students, right, when you assign homework, like you probably had this when you were in school, like, okay, read this 10 pages, answer the questions at the end.
What do they do?
They skim it and they answer it.
Once I realized that they were just copying out of a book, I'm like, this is ineffective.
They're not learning anything this way.
What I want you to do, I don't want you to answer any questions.
I want you to read it.
I want you to understand it.
Then tomorrow, when you come in, you're going to get a quiz every single day.
Ten questions, multiple choice.
Because we haven't gone over it in class, I'm going to give you a two.
You get to get two wrong.
And that's what I'm going to grade it on.
And that's all I wanted kids to do.
Just read, understand, and they learned it a lot better that way.
ian crossland
I got a feeling if we did audiobooks in school for kids that don't want to read, obviously
we want to teach kids how to read and become literate so there's a value to reading, but
it's so long, it takes so long for me, I was like, I am not reading your crap, teach.
But if it was audio, I think that might have been, I learn audibly, I think that could
unidentified
help.
Like, you can't just teach, like, okay, there was this act and then there was this act.
You got to get into it.
A history teacher, especially, has to have energy and they have to really love the topic.
Like, if I was teaching the John Brown raid, it's like, okay, check this out.
You know, like, so there's a guy, John Brown, and he had five sons, and these dudes were crazy.
I don't know what they were thinking.
You know, like, they wanted to take this arsenal.
hannah claire brimelow
It's memorable to them.
tim pool
Didn't all those kids die?
Like before him?
unidentified
Yes.
Most of them did.
And he survived somehow.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Hanged him.
ian crossland
His five kids were fighting with him?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
This is a slave or this is like an abolitionist.
It's called a revolt.
unidentified
The first person who died of Harpers Ferry was a black man they accidentally shot.
It was on their side.
tim pool
John Brown.
If someone existed today that was like John Brown, he would be locked up in two seconds as a violent, murderous psychopath.
unidentified
It's literally insurrection.
He led an insurrection.
tim pool
I mean, he killed a bunch of people.
Like him and his crew.
It was in Bleeding Kansas, I believe.
unidentified
Yes, he was in Kansas before, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, so Bleeding Kansas was like, we don't want new states to be slave states.
Then other people were like, they did.
So he goes down, along with many other people, and they were, it was the pre-Civil War.
It was bleeding cancers.
It was mini-Civil War.
And then, you know what his big mistake was?
I mean, you probably know all about it, the John Brown raid.
unidentified
Being outnumbered?
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
He let the train leave.
So after he took over the Harper's Ferry Armory, a train was coming in and he said, okay, fine, you can leave.
Train makes it to Baltimore, sends word, hey, extremist guy, insurrection treason, just took over the Harper's Ferry Armory.
And this is, at the time, I'm pretty sure it was still Virginia.
It wasn't West Virginia.
unidentified
Yeah, it was.
That's right.
tim pool
Then they tell the feds, deploy the troops.
If he didn't let that train leave, he would have been able to secure the city and secure the armory.
The other thing, too, is he was trying to foment a slave revolt.
unidentified
And they never showed up.
He asked Frederick Douglass, can you do it?
And Frederick Douglass was like, nah, chill, we're all set.
ian crossland
I'd like to hear your guys' opinions.
I've got on my Twitter banner, it's a picture of John Brown.
You know that picture where he's got the Bible in one hand and a rifle in the other?
Except it's my face photoshopped on it.
Love it.
Should I take that down?
Should I change that a little too?
tim pool
The problem with John Brown is it's just like, man, stopping slavery It's legit.
But yo, he literally just killed innocent people.
I guess the question is whether you view them as innocent, but there are stories of him walking up to... He was also a moron.
unidentified
He killed one of his... The first person who died was on their side and was running back towards them and they shot him.
tim pool
One of the stories is that he walked up to a landowner, a slave owner.
He believed.
I'm saying this specifically because he walks up to a guy and just shoots him in the face, kills him.
And so it's like, okay, hold on there a minute, man.
You know what I mean?
I don't know about all that.
It's like when it comes to war, even Abraham Lincoln wasn't really trying to end slavery as much as they try to create that myth that he was.
Abolitionists, a lot of really great people, a lot of really passionate people who fought in the Civil War because they knew it was a path to the end.
But it's like, man, people like John Brown, that's tough.
People want to look back and be like, he was an abolitionist.
It's like, yeah, he was a murderous psychopath.
unidentified
I loved teaching World War II and especially the Civil Rights Movement.
One of my favorites was the Little Rock Nine.
I loved teaching about that.
And we actually set up a situation where we had pen pals.
I contacted Little Rock Central High School, which is like a prestigious high school today.
It's actually paid for by the federal government.
And my students had pen pals with theirs because we watched a documentary about what Little Rock Central High is like 50 years later.
It's 60% black, 40% white, extremely segregated still, but self-segregated.
You know, like black kids congregate towards black kids, white kids congregate towards
white kids.
So I really love doing it.
Like the whole pen pal thing kind of like brought it to life.
They're like, oh, we're talking to other kids in another state I've never been to and probably
never will go to.
I don't know anything about, but this is cool.
ian crossland
What's the Little Rock Nine?
unidentified
The Little Rock Nine, where it was the first school that was forced to be desegregated
The Brown versus Board of Ed in 54 said you have to desegregate schools, and no southern states were until Little Rock decided, we're going to do this.
And so nine black kids signed up to go to school.
A mob met them outside.
The Arkansas National Guard did nothing to stop the mob.
And so Eisenhower had to come in and basically send the 101st Airborne, literally the D-Day guys
in, to walk the children had to walk around school getting protected by
these people.
tim pool
We got riots in New York. Oh do we? Yeah so far the videos I'm seeing are relatively
light. They're smashing a cop car window, windshield, sorry, and I'm seeing
other people post about riots popping up but so far the video I've just seen
because I got notification it was like hey riots are kicking off and I'm like
okay what's going on and then I see a video they're in Times Square jumping on
cop car times square yeah.
But the video is not like people throwing bricks or anything.
It's a guy jumping in a car and smashing the windshield.
serge du preez
I wonder how many people have actually seen the video.
tim pool
Yo, but I'm watching like even a bunch of conservatives are like, yo, they straight up murdered that guy.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
Like cops were taking turns pulling him and pounding on him.
serge du preez
For sure.
unidentified
And so it's a murder.
Like murders happen every day.
And it's like in the bad people, the people that did it are being held accountable.
So what are we doing here?
tim pool
Yeah, they're, uh, Hawk Newsom's in New York saying, F-Peace, F-Peace.
So they're basically just calling for violence.
serge du preez
Wow.
tim pool
Union Square.
unidentified
Like you said, it wouldn't even matter what was on the video.
That's what I thought today, too.
It's like, it really doesn't matter what's on the video.
They're gonna riot no matter what.
tim pool
This is why I left the city.
This is why we went outside of the city.
We're not completely in the middle of nowhere, but we're middle of nowhere-ish.
We get comments from people that are like, coming to Tim Pool's house was crazy.
It's like pitch black, you've got this long, winding road.
That's right, we're on top of a mountain.
Yeah.
Yo, New York's gonna be... When the Summer of Love happened, there was a guy who called 911.
He said, help, there's a fight breaking at my apartment, and the dispatcher said, sir, the city is under attack.
What would you have us do?
Yeah.
unidentified
When was that?
2020.
tim pool
Wow.
Yeah, so... Yeah, cities are a rough spot right now.
Get some chickens, get out of cities, but we're gonna jump to Super Chat, so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, Share the show with your friends.
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Let's read what y'all have to say in the Super Chats.
All right.
Let's see.
Emily Cannata says, Turtle Rider for life.
Are you going to talk about that story out of Duxbury?
unidentified
Oh, I mentioned it earlier.
It's a horrible story.
ian crossland
It's the mom that killed her three kids.
unidentified
Oh, right, right, right.
Very few times do you write a story where it's actually horrible.
I didn't want to write it.
ian crossland
Did it just happen?
unidentified
It just happened a couple days ago.
And if you look at the pictures... The youngest child just... Just died today.
And if you look at this woman's Facebook page, I mean, like, the perfect family.
Like, I love you.
And it's just, it's horrible.
It's absolutely horrible.
tim pool
This is a really great super chat from Minotaur A says the Pelosi video is what you get when you hire the writers of Reno 911 to write your psyops.
Has a go on.
I dig it.
unidentified
Kind of.
tim pool
Here we go.
Total Wildlife Management.
This is at 801 says Memphis protesters have blocked the old 55 Memphis bridge.
So that was that was an hour and a half ago.
serge du preez
That was a while ago.
tim pool
We'll see where we go.
We'll see where we are, man.
unidentified
I assume that crosses the Mississippi.
Must be a major bridge.
serge du preez
Probably.
tim pool
Mr. Dysett says, Tim, I tried sharing with you on Twitter that the Memphis Police Chief was recruited from Atlanta GA and a supporter of BLM, which might explain the Friday release of body camera footage.
They want it to happen.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Tim, I had to do the crying game shower scene earlier.
I was walking down the street.
Some lady said I was handsome.
Then another slapped my butt.
Then a woman asked me out on a date.
Oh, the humanity.
There was this meme going around from this feminist group.
It's a comic and it was like, how would men like getting harassed or whatever?
And it was a four panel comic where it's like a guy walking down the street and a woman's like, hey, handsome, you're looking pretty good.
You should smile more.
And then he's like, thanks.
Then the next one is like an office where the woman's like, hello, lovely gentlemen.
They're smiling.
Then it was a woman being like, wow, you fixed that computer all by yourself.
That's impressive.
And he's like, thanks.
And it's just like, do feminists just not understand guys at all?
Yes.
The crazy thing to me is that the woman who wrote that was outright saying that if she fixed her computer and you went, wow, did you fix your computer by yourself?
It's impressive.
She'd be offended.
That's an offensive thing to say to somebody.
hannah claire brimelow
See, for a while I was getting told on the internet, like, everyone should compliment men more because like, They don't hear very many compliments, so if you say, like, hey, I like your shirt, like, they'll remember that for the next year.
tim pool
The guy commented, he's like, the hot chick in my high school told me that the color of my sweater made my eyes pop and my blue eyes, you know, come out.
I've worn the same color sweater for the rest of my life.
ian crossland
That's the ugly side.
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like women are very free with themselves, like to compliment one another.
I love your hair, I love your shoes, I love whatever.
And like, I feel like that's not true for men amongst yourselves.
Maybe you are, I don't want to assume.
tim pool
Guys do the opposite.
Guys rag on each other.
hannah claire brimelow
That's true.
ian crossland
I try to compliment when it's genuine.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ian crossland
But the thing about if a woman compliments a guy is the guy can take it the wrong way and think that she wants to have sex with him.
So you gotta be real careful.
tim pool
Yeah, but not if the man's like, wow, did you fix that computer by yourself?
That's impressive.
The guy's not gonna be like, wow, some guys might.
unidentified
I was like, but that's a him problem, right?
hannah claire brimelow
Like the majority of men can see it in the context, right?
tim pool
A confident man would.
unidentified
I wouldn't mind being catcalled.
I mean, obviously women.
Imagine just a guy walking down the street and a bunch of women are like, oh damn, you're looking fine.
hannah claire brimelow
You're like, I feel pretty.
unidentified
So what's up?
What's your name?
It would be so weird.
tim pool
But what if it was like a big, fat, old, nasty woman in a wheelchair and she's like, come here and give me some of that.
unidentified
I'd still be flattered.
Thank you for noticing.
I'd be like, thank you, that's very kind of you.
Or if it was six dudes.
tim pool
I still got it.
ian crossland
Six big dudes are like, you look good.
Like, that's weird, because they're bigger than you.
There's a lot of them.
So I think women do feel afraid a lot of times when they get yelled at.
tim pool
Yeah, I think it depends on the circumstances.
But look, this comic is not talking about overt harassment.
Like a guy pulls up in a car and starts saying nasty things to a woman and just, you know, like, you got a big butt and that's stupid.
ian crossland
That's the thing, man.
tim pool
But if like, if there's that video, 10 hours of walking through New York as a woman, and there were literally men saying like, good morning.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
And they were offended by that.
serge du preez
It's unreal.
tim pool
It's like, okay, dude, if you're offended by good morning, we're lost.
serge du preez
Can't say anything, yeah.
ian crossland
I think that young women need a masculine source of strength in their life.
Usually that's the father.
If they don't have a father, that's why, you know, a strong compliment can really help a human regardless of their gender.
But things getting sexual is just so weird.
unidentified
I don't know how to... Sexual is a compliment.
If a woman said sexual things about a man, like, it would be complimentary.
I would be flattered.
I don't care how ugly you are.
I'd still take it as a compliment.
ian crossland
It's cool the first time.
I was in Hollywood for a while and I started to get overly sexualized.
It was real.
I just felt dirty and like a prostitute.
I left.
It gets old.
serge du preez
West Hollywood or regular Hollywood?
ian crossland
What's that?
serge du preez
West Hollywood or regular Hollywood?
ian crossland
Regular Hollywood.
tim pool
All right, let's read this.
We got Gustav Andersen who says, Ian, check out The Miracle of the Sun in Portugal 1917.
You might find it interesting.
unidentified
Hmm.
Ooh.
tim pool
Ginny says, four of the officers made bail.
Okay.
ian crossland
Not the guy swinging.
unidentified
Probably not the guy swinging, I'm guessing.
serge du preez
Yeah.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Let's, uh, let's see what we got here.
Maris McMullen says, it's good to hear that Bocas is doing well.
Unfortunately, none of us live forever.
I'm a woodturner in Georgia who hand makes cremation urns.
Is there someone I could get in contact with to give an urn for Bocas?
I really do appreciate it, but it's okay.
We're not going to do it.
You know.
We won't need it, because everyone's going to pray for Buckus.
ian crossland
Yeah, I've noticed with Bucko, he wants to live, and that's the key component, especially for a cat, but for anyone, really.
So I'm giving him the tools that I can to let his body do the work while he gets what he desires.
tim pool
You know what I started doing?
I started heating up his food, and he eats it more.
Because I'm thinking about it, and I'm like, he yells at me for food, I put his kidney, he's got a special kidney food on the plate, put it down, and then he looks at it, and then he sniffs it, and then he just walks away.
So I put it in the microwave, heat it up, mix it up a little bit, put it on the ground, he goes right in.
ian crossland
Nice.
I noticed if I eat a piece of meat, he wants it, then I feed him his meat, he goes right for it.
tim pool
Also, if I read the ingredients... But you can't get many of that now.
ian crossland
No, just his phosphate meat.
tim pool
His lack of phosphate.
ian crossland
Yeah, stuff without phosphates.
Or if I read the ingredients on his food can and really pay attention to what's in it, he starts to get interested in it and wants it.
Like, they want what you want, cats.
tim pool
Yeah, maybe he's like, hey, don't eat mine.
hannah claire brimelow
And some cats with kidney issues, like, experience nausea.
So, like, part of it is just making it appetizing for him.
tim pool
Yeah, we have these two different kinds of kidney food, and he, like, he goes back and forth.
Like, first he liked one, now he won't touch it, now he wants the other one.
ian crossland
I gave him the one with chicken and pork liver.
Oh, I tasted it, I was like, I could survive off this, bucko.
tim pool
I gotta be honest, like, I mean, when I heated up his kidney food, it smelled like canned corned beef hash.
You ever have that?
Like Hormel or whatever?
ian crossland
Oh, yeah.
I think so.
tim pool
I like it.
It's good stuff.
It's a little sweet.
I didn't eat the cat food.
ian crossland
I mean, but seriously, in a survival situation, man, that would keep you alive.
tim pool
I have eaten cat food before.
unidentified
Do you have a cat?
Do you have a cat?
I was going to say, I've got a five and a seven-year-old who want to get a pet.
I was gonna wait for the dog until they get old enough to walk him, but then I'm thinking, I'm like, I've never had a cat before.
Would you go cat with two kids like that age?
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, I like cat when I was in the third grade.
He lived for 17 years.
It was the best thing ever.
I highly recommend cats.
unidentified
Cats are easy.
They seem easy.
ian crossland
You know how to deal with them.
There's this guy, Jackson Galaxy, who does a show.
Well, this show called My Cat from Hell, it's a TV show, you can watch those shows.
He tells you everything you need to know about how to live with a cat, with their litter box, keeping it open to the air, with having shelves on the wall for them to jump on, to play with them, to kind of mimic the hunt before you feed them, which mimics the kill.
There's a lot of ways and they're very easy.
hannah claire brimelow
Cats are pretty independent and, like, relative to dogs.
I like dogs too, it's not that.
unidentified
Dogs are work.
hannah claire brimelow
Dogs are work, and especially if you have kids in the house, like, they're gonna learn, be able to, like, clean out the litter box and feed the cat.
Like, when you have a dog that needs the training, it can be, I imagine, a little harder.
unidentified
Dogs are part of, like, the American dream.
Yeah, for sure.
This is a weird thing.
tim pool
All right, let's read this one from Owl Night.
He says, the latest Project Veritas video was removed.
That's right, James O'Keefe tweeting out that YouTube took down the Project Veritas video.
That's crazy. He went to Twitter first with it, which is Twitter. It's still up 20 million views.
unidentified
Yeah, that's the way it's like what's I mean, what are they trying to accomplish there? My guess
ian crossland
is it still my guess is that the people at Alphabet or the Google sensors or whoever was
doing this thought they're they're demonizing this guy.
Jared, is that his name? Jared, the dude that's like don't Jared with an O or something. I
unidentified
don't want to mistake Jordan.
Jordan Walker.
ian crossland
Jordan Walker.
They might think that this is actually abusing towards this guy, like it's getting to the point where people are hating on this guy and he's committing abuse, but like let's just stay focused on what potential criminality and that Marco Rubio sent a letter to the CEO of Pfizer like, yo, explain this.
Whatever happens with Jordan, you know, let's be kind to the guy.
hannah claire brimelow
I understand not wanting to like, I don't know, put something that's just like degrading to a human being.
I do think that like everything James O'Keefe did, like the way he conducts himself seems fair.
It's not like he himself is like, it's different if it's a video where he's walking up
and being like, you're an idiot.
Like, you know what I mean?
That obviously is not what the video was.
tim pool
Everybody follow at Timcast News on Twitter because we've got videos coming out of the,
let's just say burgeoning riot in New York City.
So, I say that because a lot of it is protest, but they've, they smashed up a, you know, a guy jumped on a police car, smashed the windshield.
We've got footage of it with the police surrounding the vehicle.
So, it's getting to that point where it's pushing towards riot territory.
So, uh, at TimCastNews on Twitter, we got a reporter on the ground, I believe.
It's, uh, Ilad.
serge du preez
Yeah, he's out there.
tim pool
He's on the ground?
Okay, yeah.
serge du preez
All right.
tim pool
Rye Lyon says, 25 states filed a lawsuit yesterday in federal court to stop the Biden administration from allowing your employer to invest your retirement savings in ESG.
It may be the most important case this year.
unidentified
Wow.
Okay.
ian crossland
That's cool.
Vague, though.
Invest in ESG.
By that, do you mean invest in things that support BlackRock?
serge du preez
I think just companies that have ESG scores, who knows what that means exactly.
tim pool
Alright.
David C. Kronk Sr.
says, it was a no-win scenario.
No matter what Paul Pelosi did, he could spill his drink.
That's alcohol abuse.
I mean, it's weird.
He wouldn't let that drink go.
He could have dropped the drink and then grabbed with his other hand.
He didn't do it.
He's like, no, not my drink.
It reminds me of South Park when, uh, what's Jimbo?
Is that his name?
He's teaching the kids how to hunt.
And then they're like, you know, it's like a misfire.
Like, whoa, that was dangerous.
You almost spilled your beer.
serge du preez
Yeah.
ian crossland
Like diving after the one ring.
tim pool
Yeah.
Paul Pelosi diving for the drink.
Geez, man.
All right.
Ready to rumble says it's clearly a hostage situation with an elderly man.
How is this hard to understand?
ian crossland
Yeah, I'm with you.
tim pool
Because what we assume or expect
from a hostage situation is not what happened.
It's as simple as that.
It doesn't make sense that DaPap would be standing with him while he called the police, said, I don't want police, but are the Capitol Police there?
Now I've got to get off the phone?
I just, it doesn't add up.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't know, man.
I'm not saying I'm insinuating something happened.
I'm just saying quite literally, this seems weird to me.
ian crossland
It's an example of madness in action.
tim pool
He could be a crazy guy.
He could just be a crazy guy.
You know, crazy guy.
It does seem like you're stretching to cover all of the weird things about it, but you know, maybe that's the reality, huh?
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
What do we got here?
Eddie F says, Tim, don't forget your rule, making the least amount of assumptions.
This is all staged and they're all bad actors.
Things got out of hand in the end because they involved drugs and alcohol.
That makes too many assumptions though.
You'd have to assume that they planned something and there were meetings beforehand.
The simple solution is, well, I'm sorry, this is tough.
So the Pelosi's had no security on their house this one night and that's when the guy decided to come.
Was he staking it out?
I just got so many questions about this.
ian crossland
Once I saw him smashing the window with a hammer, David DePapp, it set my mind at ease about what happened.
unidentified
I did ask why there's no alarm.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, I guess he's home, so maybe he didn't set it.
As much as it kind of explains what happens, there are still questions.
It's not definitive by any means.
unidentified
It's just weird that he's that accessible.
I can just go in Nancy Pelosi's house.
tim pool
It doesn't make sense.
hannah claire brimelow
Or like Tim said, this is the one night there wasn't security?
tim pool
No, we have armed security guards.
serge du preez
He said there's no Capitol Police.
He said usually there are Capitol Police outside the building protecting my wife.
hannah claire brimelow
But she was in DC, right?
So is he trying to say, normally my house is heavily secured, but please come help me because tonight it's not?
serge du preez
Yeah, I don't know.
unidentified
I went to CPAC and I couldn't get near Josh Hawley.
Like, he's got, like, good luck getting near him, you know, but I can just walk in Nancy Pelosi's house whenever I want.
That's wild.
ian crossland
I was driving back from New York yesterday or in the car and I looked, I was just looking at houses as we were driving on the road and like the windows I could see into their living room.
I could see the TV and I'm like, we live in such a luxurious society where you can have your freaking house glass windows leading into where you sleep at night.
Like, It's glass.
hannah claire brimelow
It's not true in every country.
serge du preez
As a South African, it's the weirdest thing.
It's like, you guys trust that?
tim pool
David R says, the dispatch call can be explained simply.
He introduced himself as a Pelosi and the dispatcher voted for Trump.
Solves every question.
I mean, hey, the cop, more likely the Republican.
But no, I think the dispatcher was just a little... What's the right word without being mean?
unidentified
RMV lady.
tim pool
Slow on the uptake.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't think she follows national politics.
tim pool
No, I just mean like when he's like, there's a guy in my house who just came in and I have a problem.
She's like, well, call me back if anything happens.
It's like, okay.
unidentified
Is she not trained?
I don't know.
tim pool
Yeah.
Wayne L says the times don't make sense.
9-1-1 call was at 2.25 a.m.
Video of him breaking in is at 5.31 a.m.
And body camera video footage is at 9.31 a.m.
hannah claire brimelow
But we know it wasn't at 9.31 in the morning.
Like that's not when the cop showed up.
serge du preez
No, but that's what I was talking about as I saw that super chat earlier and I was wondering why On all these things, we don't see any particular time frames of exactly when this happened.
Normally, when something like this happens, you have an instance report of all the time frames going down.
But with this, we've never seen anything saying, this happened this time, this happened this time, this happened this time, chronologically listed.
It hasn't happened yet.
tim pool
It is weird.
It says 9.31 on the body camera footage, but it's certainly not 9.31.
It's dark out.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It's clearly not 9.31.
The argument that the legacy media... UTC?
There were, like, a bunch of publications that, like, sued to get this stuff released, and they said all of this has been read in pre-trial evidence hearings.
So, like, theoretically, a report like that search would have come out then, too, and maybe they just didn't include it in the lawsuit.
tim pool
Would UTC make sense if it's 9?
That would put it at, like, midnight or something, though, wouldn't it?
Or 1 AM?
unidentified
1 31?
tim pool
No, but the call, the call was at two, two in the morning.
So the police had to respond sometime after that.
So around three.
So why did it say T0931?
ian crossland
UTC is, is that British?
It's nine.
tim pool
Universal.
ian crossland
Yeah.
So that's, it's three.
tim pool
Five hours ahead of East Coast.
ian crossland
Of us.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Which means it would be eight for Los Angeles.
So that would put this at 1 31 AM, but the phone call was made around 2 AM, 2 25 AM.
So it's an hour later.
unidentified
Yeah.
serge du preez
So it doesn't make, it doesn't make sense.
tim pool
Maybe it's p.m.
ian crossland
With a 9 p.m.
tim pool
Oh, we're not in daylight savings though.
It's minus 5 right now.
After March it goes to minus 4, doesn't it?
ian crossland
God, I don't know.
I heard they're thinking about getting rid of that daylight savings.
unidentified
Yeah, they should.
hannah claire brimelow
We always talk about it every year.
tim pool
It's a disgrace.
Anyway, let's read some more Super Chats.
ian crossland
All right.
tim pool
Franco Phillips says, Tim and friends, the reason that our government wants to abolish the police is that they can instill a Gestapo federal police system when the citizens beg for them back.
ian crossland
That is a very astute thing to point out.
I agree that if we ever were to get rid of local police, you're left with federal police or private police, and you don't want those to run your life.
Trust me.
I've seen it in Chile.
Just even when they were on my side, it was disconcerting to see federales on the corner with their guns and stuff.
unidentified
I mean, do you guys watch Walking Dead?
I mean, that's basically what happens in a lawless society.
It's like, you're going to get the Negans.
You're going to get the Saviors.
Like, that's why that show is somewhat realistic.
It's like, this is what happens when a society breaks down.
The guy with the bat, with the barbed wire on it, who kills one person every time he comes to a new village, he's in charge now.
Like, that's what you're going to get instead of the police.
So think twice before you abolish them.
Think about what comes next, because they never do.
Yeah.
serge du preez
If you look at South Africa as well, we have private security all over the country, and it's not necessarily a better system.
I can tell you that right now.
ian crossland
Was it worse?
serge du preez
I mean, I'd say it's worse, because the thing is, it's private security.
They hold you until they get to the police.
It's not exactly the same thing as a police service that is beholden to the law, etc., etc.
ian crossland
Do they just beat people up?
serge du preez
I wouldn't say it's not like that, but if they did, there's no body cams on them.
unidentified
It's like casino police bringing you in the back room to catch you counting cards.
serge du preez
Exactly.
You can't hold them accountable to anything.
Like you said, it's not necessarily better.
You get the Negan guy.
I barely watch that series, but I know what you're talking about.
I understand it's lawless.
It's not a better system.
Just because you abolish the police doesn't mean that bad guys stop.
It doesn't mean that people aren't going to steal your stuff.
People forget that.
They don't think about that stuff.
tim pool
The timestamp on the break-in footage is 5 a.m.
So are these just clocks that are all set wrong?
Is that what it is?
serge du preez
I mean, that's a possibility.
unidentified
I don't know, man.
tim pool
It's weird.
I mean, the issue I take with it is, sure, but once you start stacking up all these weird things, you are now looking at, it's like, you do not have, it's a Jenga tower full of holes.
You know what I mean?
It's not a strongly supported structure of this narrative when it's like all these pieces.
You take out one piece and it's like, timestamp 5 a.m.
And you go, eh, well, you know.
hannah claire brimelow
The cameras could be off.
tim pool
Yeah, and then it's like, okay, body camera footage at 9am.
Well, I guess the body camera footage?
Then you pull out another one.
Phone call, 2am.
Okay, none of the timestamps add up, putting a bunch of holes in the narrative.
Then there's the phone call.
Is this the police?
Yeah, oops, it was a mistake.
Do you need the police?
I don't, I don't think so.
But are the Capitol Police there?
Why?
There's so many holes in the tower is about to fall.
Whoever's making that next move.
ian crossland
DePapcom, he called the cops, then DePap left and came back later with a hammer at 5am.
And then they set off an alarm, a silent alarm.
And then the cops came out.
And that's what we saw.
I'm wondering, I don't know.
tim pool
I have no idea.
unidentified
At least these conversations are taking place.
Like, CNN, the immediate thing is gonna be like, this is somehow Trump's fault.
Like that's, somehow they will spin it.
tim pool
Oh, we got a good one here.
Highlander Ultra says, red-pilled my mom today, the NewsGuard rating for MSNBC and Obama sipping water at Flint, Michigan.
If alcohol is at the coffee shops, a keto biscuit would be a good pairing.
Myrtle Beach SC will have you.
I'm telling you guys, get NewsGuard.
And I know a lot of conservatives are like, I'm not supporting NewsGuard.
And I'm like, no, no, no, hear me out.
Use the tools you have to win your arguments.
NewsGuard rates MSNBC as essentially fake news, as they do not adhere to journalistic standards.
You can then tell your wine aunt, your uncles, your woke friends and family, and you don't get aggressive with them and say, you watch fake news!
Look, I can prove it!
You say, where did you hear that?
You're not watching that conspiracy stuff.
MSNBC, is that what that is?
The Rachel Maddow lady.
Yeah, she's like Lady Alex Jones or whatever.
And then they're like, what?
That's not true.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, look, look, NewsGuard.
Yeah, see?
It says fake news.
Is that what you're watching?
And they'll go, oh, how do you respond to that?
unidentified
But then won't Politico say that NewsGuard is in and of itself fake news?
That's a right-wing thing.
tim pool
But NewsGuard gives Politico a perfect score.
unidentified
Oh, OK.
ian crossland
Who's really in control.
tim pool
We should have a perfect score, but NewsGuard wrongly dinged us for no reason, because they're full of it.
ian crossland
What was the ding?
tim pool
They said that we quoted Donald Trump, and that Trump was wrong, therefore we were wrong.
And we were like, the story we ran was, Donald Trump says thing.
It's a news thing that happened, like we should have fact-checked him.
And I said, we're not running an analysis on what Donald Trump said, we're reporting him having said that.
And we only did it, I think, five times in the years, the couple years the website's been up.
Out of 4,000 articles, there were five instances, and they said, that warrants you being irresponsible news producers.
ian crossland
Ethical question, as you start your fact-checking service with your charity foundation, are you going to fact-check yourself?
tim pool
Tim Cass?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
That's one of the principal purposes.
So the idea is to not have them work in the same place or be in communication, but then to grab the articles, go through them, and then ding them.
But here's my attitude.
The fact-checking plan that we have is we randomly sample 100 articles from the past three months or something like that.
We then do a check for journalistic ethics, minimizing harm, facts, things like that.
If they violate any ethic, we create a spreadsheet showing the X, explaining the violation, and then giving them a score, X out of 100.
The New York Times, I think, would probably end up at like a 70 out of 100, and we'd have 30 articles saying like, here's why we believe this violated standard ethics.
However, If the New York Times then goes in and addresses that and removes the violation, we will then change it to a check and say, a correction has been made.
The New York Times corrected this and removed the violation and improved their score.
ian crossland
So you leave the trail of the error and the correction all in the system?
tim pool
Yeah, the idea would be like you can see everything they've done.
So that would mean for TimCast, absolutely, they should be checking us too.
Because then the benefit is when they come and say, we randomly sampled 100 articles and we found, you know, 35 were violating these ethics, that's a low score.
We'd be like, we'll have our team go in and correct each and every one of these things.
ian crossland
I like it.
We need more people that investigate themselves and find something wrong.
tim pool
But the idea is great.
It's an independent.
They're not going to work in the newsroom with the news team.
They're going to be outside.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So we will have active fact-checkers double fact-checking our articles.
We will then use that to correct any mistakes we make from the fact-checkers, and then we will create a browser extension that will do the exact same thing for every other outlet.
Takes a long time, it'll be very difficult.
What if you could use AI?
ian crossland
Something like a chat sheet?
tim pool
No, it's not so easy.
How do you AI minimize harm?
That's tough.
So when CNN said, this guy made a meme, we will reveal his identity unless he stops making memes, we'd be like, X. I mean, that warrants a failing grade.
I don't know, man.
There's also I'm wondering if we give a, you know, zero out of 100 to any overt and egregious acts of evil, like that CNN thing.
Like, this is not a credible news agency.
They have used their weight on more than one occasion to threaten people's lives, like livelihoods, sorry.
unidentified
The Andrew Kaczynski one with the WWE.
tim pool
There were other instances too.
And going to that old lady's house who was like on Facebook, right?
Those are such egregious violations of journalistic standards.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's an ethics thing.
tim pool
James O'Keefe going to an executive's house and asking them questions?
unidentified
This is what I mean by holding the power.
The media does not go after the powerful.
They go after the powerless.
And when you go after the powerful, that is when you get in trouble.
And it's kind of like what I do.
It's my own business model.
It's going after the powerful and you see what happens when they do.
They don't like that.
tim pool
All right.
John McGee says, how many people know who the president pro tempore of the Senate is or what the person's role is?
Where do they fall in the presidential line of succession?
How about who is the president of the Senate?
That's all just so very funny, isn't it?
ian crossland
I don't know either of those things.
tim pool
So who is currently president pro tempore?
It's not still Grassley after this.
unidentified
Is that the same thing?
I think it's Grassley.
ian crossland
It is not Grassley.
I'm looking at it now.
Anyone else?
Any other guesses?
tim pool
It was Grassley.
ian crossland
Now it's Patty Murray.
Since January 3rd, 2023.
tim pool
That's what I was asking.
It just changed.
It was Grassley before.
hannah claire brimelow
It's this thing where, like, I use that term when I cover Grassley enough, but, like, now that we've switched over and everyone's shifted, like, catch me again in four months.
I probably can't answer all of them, but you get better.
But again, this is, like, my job.
Like, I get to read and study this all the time, right?
tim pool
When I was watching a bunch of football, I knew all the players.
ian crossland
When I was playing a lot of Madden in 2003, back in the day, I was learning all the players.
I knew all their names, I knew their speeds, I knew their stats.
hannah claire brimelow
For a little while.
ian crossland
Touchdowns they threw.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I was covering when every state, for a while starting November 30th, a bunch of states started banning TikTok on government.
platforms and on government networks and stuff and so I found this very interesting and covered it intensely for the site and so at one point I was like listing I could name every governor of like all of these states who had done this because I was using that information so readily like if if you're a student in your 11th grade history class I'm sure they're all like ready to explain what everything in the constitution is it's it's just how How often are you accessing this information?
How often do you have to use it?
ian crossland
And they change.
The positions change, just like football.
If you're out of it for five years, you know, there's new players on the team.
unidentified
If you're not regularly teaching history, you're not going to remember.
I mean, you're going to forget 95 percent of what I taught you.
I would never expect my students to remember, like, remember I taught you this lesson?
Unless you're actively involved in it every day, you know, there's only so much information your brain can retain.
ian crossland
I call it mental bandwidth.
I've heard that from someone else.
But when people ask me, hey, do you want to do this?
Instead of saying I can't, I just say I don't have the mental bandwidth for it.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I use that expression too.
I don't have bandwidth for this.
Like, I think about that all the time with people who are working, you know, not in the news industry and have children and have, you know, things going on in their life.
Like, I've had people say to me like, oh, I just feel like I haven't checked the news in weeks, and they probably haven't, but not because they're bad people, because they have other things, other demands on their time, right?
Like, we have to have grace for people who don't have the time to look at the news all the time.
That's why I feel like what we get to do with Timcast is cool, because it's like, hey, if you have five minutes to scroll through Twitter or to check our website, here are some stuff that would be good, that might affect your life, that would be good for you to know going forward.
You don't have to be an expert all the time.
tim pool
And that's why we say become a member at Timcast.com, so we can do a lot more of that.
We got a couple more good Super Chats here.
Cameron Peter says, Project Veritas has posted that Jordan Walker is still an active employee, proving he wasn't a contractor.
Very interesting.
And then, uh, last one right here.
This is great.
Viper says, Hey, just want to thank you, Tim and Luke.
You guys gave me the inspiration to eat better and I'm already seeing results.
You guys are doing a great job with info.
You do not find really helps is actually a scale.
So when, not this past November, but the November before, the October actually, before I got COVID, I was about 200 pounds and I didn't care.
I literally just didn't care.
And I ate what I felt like eating and just did what I felt like doing.
And then one day I just stopped eating sugar and then decided just, you know what, I'm gonna cut all those sugars out.
And then started losing weight really quickly.
Check the scale abruptly, like after a week or two, and I was like, oh damn, I was down like five pounds.
Then the next day I would hit the scale, I'm down again.
And then every day I go down, what happens is, when I get back on the scale and I start going up,
I'm like, uh-oh.
And then it makes me think about it all day.
It's just me, I don't know if it works for anybody else.
But then I'm like, whoop, I ate that pizookie over at BJ's Brewhouse and now I'm feeling it.
Those are so good though.
Have you guys ever been there?
No.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, yeah, of course.
tim pool
Yeah, I've been there.
It's a cookie baked into a little pan.
unidentified
Ugh.
tim pool
ice cream, big ice cream on top.
ian crossland
I'm not addicted to sugar right now.
tim pool
The Oreo one has got Oreo cream filling on top.
ian crossland
Yeah.
unidentified
You weighed 200 pounds?
Yeah, yeah.
I can't imagine that.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ian crossland
I can't tell.
tim pool
Look at the videos.
Look at, look at, watch the show.
hannah claire brimelow
You said that, like, you had an outro at the end of your videos, and then when you came in here, you're like, we gotta reshoot that.
I don't look like that anymore.
tim pool
Well, no, no, people commented.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Someone super chatted, your outro video is, you're fatter, you can tell you lost weight.
ian crossland
Dude, it's the John Stossel thumbnail of your interview a year ago.
That's the most obvious.
It's like round, puffy, compared to what you are now.
I can't tell it's seeing you every day.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I was gonna say, you said that once, like, oh yeah, I was 200 pounds, and I remember being like, what, really?
Because the other thing is, you also implemented doing something you love, skating, and being active all the time.
tim pool
I was skating then, too.
But we were getting hibachi, and I'd have a big bowl of rice.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, but making several small changes, they are difficult at first, but they actually do pay off over time.
And I think you are someone who did that, right?
You cut sugar first.
tim pool
I also think I accidentally stopped eating a lot.
That just kind of happened.
ian crossland
That's good.
That fasting thing's key.
Luke, if you guys saw, I think it was on his Instagram, a picture of him with the eggs acting like a cubano with his cocaine, but he looks ripped, dude.
He's got the shirt on.
I'm like, does he have that fake bodysuit on?
That's Luke's chest.
And then I got real emasculated.
tim pool
I was like, oh.
ian crossland
You gotta start working out, man.
tim pool
He keeps trying to get you to work out with the guy you love doing it.
ian crossland
He's a beast, dude.
He went full beast mode in like two months.
He got all this muscle.
Definition is looking good.
tim pool
He's been having the trainer come and do the work with him.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Alright everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, cut out the sugars, start eating healthy, start exercising, you'll really appreciate it, because I can't even begin to explain.
First I would say, find a personal trainer, a nutritionist, or whatever you can, or start researching it, find out what makes sense for you, because not everybody's the same, but I gotta tell you this, when you get in shape, You'll all of a sudden just feel so good, and it's really hard to describe.
When you are out of shape, you don't realize you feel bad, and then like, once I stopped, I cut out the garbage, it feels like I wake up in the morning like a surge of lightning, just like, I used to wake up like, now I wake up like, oh yeah!
And I can tell.
When I eat garbage, cause like, I'm not telling people to be monks, you know?
I had a pizookie, okay?
Cookie with ice cream all over it.
But I mostly cut it out.
And I make it really like a rare treat.
Although the past week, I was just like, I had it like three days in a row.
Cause I was feeling miserable.
But I tell you this, I learned my lesson.
Cause I wake up in the morning like, I feel miserable.
And then I'm like, okay.
And then I had tuna salad yesterday.
Only thing I ate.
Tuna salad with peppers.
Allison cooked it.
It was fantastic.
And the next day I woke up feeling like I could punch through a brick wall.
It was incredible.
So, do it by yourself.
Become a member at TimCast.com if you want to support our work, our journalists, the cultural endeavors, the fact-checking stuff.
It all takes time, but we are working on all this stuff.
The cafe is currently under design and production.
We own the building.
It is happening.
Now we have to do construction.
I don't know how long it could take, but it is a relatively new project.
So, you can follow the show at TimCastIRL.
You can follow me personally at TimCast.
Turtle Boy, you want to shout anything out?
unidentified
Yeah, just shout out to all the turtle riders.
I see your turtle emojis in the comments.
Thanks for showing up.
If anybody wants to follow me, I'm at Dr. Turtle Boy, D-O-C-T-O-R, Turtle Boy, because if Jill Biden's a doctor, I'm definitely a doctor.
And our website is tbdailynews.com.
Thank you for having me.
It was a real pleasure being here.
tim pool
Yeah, absolutely.
It was a blast.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm Hannah Clare, I'm a writer for TimCast.com.
You should follow TimCast News.
I know Tim already said it, but we have some on the ground footage going up from New York tonight.
At TimCast News on Twitter.
I'm being coached on how to talk about social media.
tim pool
I was doing the at symbol with my hand.
We got it, we got it.
hannah claire brimelow
We could do charades, it's okay.
unidentified
We should, that's fun.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, so at TimCast News on Twitter.
Definitely go there, especially tonight.
You can follow me on Instagram at hannahclare.b and you can follow me on Twitter at hcbrimlow.
Yeah, guys, thanks so much.
ian crossland
I'm at Ian Crossland, anywhere you want to find me.
It's probably going to be me.
Check for the long hair.
And you take the risk.
If there's something you want to do, do it.
If you want to make a company right now, you start that company.
tim pool
Are we documenting the bocus?
ian crossland
Yeah, we did.
We have a bunch of good early documentary stuff.
I want to do an interview with the doctor who's super cool.
Hospital, Hopewell Animal Hospital, thank you guys so much for everything you've done so far.
You've been just amazing to Bucko, to me, the staff, you guys are fantastic.
I'm looking forward.
tim pool
I think it's actually really interesting because this is experimental, and if it works, and we have documented this process, this could be It could lead to this process becoming cheaper, more affordable.
ian crossland
Kidney failure could be a thing of the past for these animals.
It's one of the leading causes of death for dogs and cats.
So that could be to the point where we could eradicate that kind of thing.
You look at people healing the blind, healing deaf people are able to hear now, healing spinal cord injuries with graphene insertions.
I mean, we are on the precipice of magic in real time.
So take the risk like I did taking that cat.
For 10 hours, and I'd do it all again 50 more times, and you would be amazed at the results.
Thank you.
serge du preez
And I am at Surge.com.
I hope Elad stays safe on the ground there in New York.
That's who's reporting, I imagine, right?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, it's Elad.
serge du preez
And yeah, I hope you guys have a good weekend.
Be good to be back next week.
I'm at Surge.com everywhere.
Twitter, Instagram, follow me wherever you want to see me.
It was a good show, yeah.
tim pool
Alright, thanks for hanging out everybody.
I hope you enjoy the weekend.
We'll be back with clips throughout tomorrow and Sunday.
We have clips from all throughout the week.
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