Dec. 23, 2022 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Oh yeah, we're live. | |
| How's it going, everybody? | ||
| We're still here at Turning Point USA. | ||
| Thanks for tuning in. | ||
| We got some big news on this, which will be our last show of the year 2022. | ||
| And what a year it was. | ||
| I don't know about you guys, but I was glued to the Kerry Lake Trial all day. | ||
| And it was rough, because I'm just sitting there, I gotta work, but I can't stop watching because the testimony is riveting. | ||
| And I believe that there was, once again, bombshell evidence provided, this time from the People's Pundit, big data polling, Richard Barris, very, very interesting testimony. | ||
| And then we got the closing arguments, which in my opinion, I'm not gonna mince words, I think the defense had a good argument. | ||
| And the plaintiff, this is Kerouac's lawyers, I think did not hit the nail on the head with a hammer, but we will see. | ||
| This really just depends on whether or not the judge is willing to adhere, I suppose. | ||
| Well, I gotta be careful. | ||
| There's a lot of arguments to be made. | ||
| I think based on what we've seen already, there's reason to believe there were significant errors. | ||
| This is witness testimony. | ||
| This is, uh, and data, but it's going to depend on whether or not the judge agrees it was intentionally done to hurt Carey Lake, which is, let's be honest, very, very difficult, if not impossible, to prove. | ||
| But it does seem that the plaintiff, Carey Lake's team, did provide evidence that there was intent, at the very least, whether or not it was intent to actually subvert the election. | ||
| We don't, we don't, we don't have that. | ||
| And that may be where the judge comes back and says, nope, Carey Lake, you're out. | ||
| So we'll talk about that. | ||
| Plus, this one's crazy. | ||
| Sam Bankman Freed somehow got his bail paid for $250 million. | ||
| It may have been a 10% bond or something, but it's the biggest bond apparently in history, and it was paid for, and he's being released. | ||
| We gotta talk about that. | ||
| Plus, this one I think is big, a news story exclusive. | ||
| I believe this is Daily Mail exclusive. | ||
| Facebook, Google, and Twitter—it's not just Twitter—are riddled with former intelligence employees. | ||
| When I say former, I think only on paper. | ||
| So we'll get into all that stuff. | ||
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| Joining us today to talk about this, and boy is it perfect, we got Blake Masters. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| Great to be with you here. | ||
| Who are you? | ||
| Well, I ran for Senate here in Arizona in 2022. | ||
| Came up a little bit short. | ||
| We'll talk about that, right? | ||
| I obviously watched this Kerry Lake trial today with keen interest. | ||
| And Kerry, of course, is a good friend of mine. | ||
| And, you know, before that, I worked in technology. | ||
| I ran Peter Thiel's family office in San Francisco and in Los Angeles. | ||
| And so I've had one foot in the tech investing world and one foot in the political world for the past couple of years. | ||
| And potentially the new CEO of Twitter right here. | ||
| Is that the rumor? | ||
| We will see. | ||
| Almost certainly not. | ||
| And anyone who wishes that for me wishes a lot of pain for me. | ||
| We wished it for the show. | ||
| Like, how cool would that be if Thursday comes around and it just so happens it's Blank Master's CEO of Twitter? | ||
| Oh, but you're right. | ||
| It's a curse. | ||
| It's a curse. | ||
| It'd be pretty cool. | ||
| And I do think from a product direction, there's all these interesting things we could do. | ||
| I think you could actually make Twitter quite profitable in five years. | ||
| I'm not sure the balance sheet has five years though, right, Elon? | ||
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Right. | |
| He said it's on the path to bankruptcy in, what, a couple months? | ||
| He said it was a plane with the engines on fire, the controls aren't working, but he did say he thinks he can get it cash flow even by next year. | ||
| Which is a good sign, so we'll see. | ||
| I think he should keep running it, by the way. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| That's when people say, Blake, you should go run Twitter. | ||
| It's like, I think Elon can do a better job of it than I can, so why wouldn't we just want him to run it? | ||
| He's shown he can run multiple multi-billion dollar companies at once. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Thanks for joining us. | ||
| We also got Luke hanging out. | ||
| Hey guys, very simple message for you guys here today. | ||
| 2 plus 2 equals 5. | ||
| The truth is whatever the government wants it to be. | ||
| Just don't believe the evidence of your eyes and ears and you could be a trendy slave by representing your larger compliance with this shirt on TheBestPoliticalShirts.com because you guys buy the shirts. | ||
| That's why I'm here. | ||
| That's the best way to support me. | ||
| TheBestPoliticalShirts.com because you do. | ||
| That's why I'm here. | ||
| You should write books like George Orwell. | ||
| You're good at that kind of thing. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Hi, everybody. | ||
| Ian Crossland here from iancrossland.net. | ||
| Happy to be here. | ||
| Happy to talk to you, Blake, about tech. | ||
| And then, of course, we'll talk about politics, too. | ||
| But let's just get down to it. | ||
| Let's jump into this first story, man. | ||
| It's the last show of the year. | ||
| So we're going to talk about Carrie Lake. | ||
| And I was watching this trial all day. | ||
| I got to pull up this story from Fox News because it's absolutely insane. | ||
| Fox News publishes this story. | ||
| Carrie Lake's opening salvo in election fraud case appears to fall short. | ||
| It's not a fraud case. | ||
| Carrie Lake's trial right now is about invalid ballots. | ||
| Lake's fraud allegations didn't appear to explain her 17,000 vote loss to Katie Hobbs. | ||
| She did not make a fraud allegation. | ||
| They explicitly said they are not making a fraud allegation. | ||
| It's crazy to me, not so surprising, when even Fox News is not telling the story correctly. | ||
| So I'll give you the gist of what we saw yesterday and where we're at today. | ||
| So yesterday, what do we hear? | ||
| One witness testified that he was given a sample of certain ballots, and he found that in all of the samplings, there were 19-inch images printed on 20-inch paper, which we know from both the defense and the plaintiff, the machines would reject that. | ||
| He then testified the ballots were then duplicated, But the originals were not stored along with them, breaking chain of custody. | ||
| And that's the one that's crazy me, like, is anybody talking about that? | ||
| Like, if you fill out a ballot, and they told you to put it in box three, and you did, because it didn't count, they would duplicate it and run the duplicate through the machine, and then they lost the original. | ||
| So how do we compare these two and know they're actually the same? | ||
| That should have been brought up. | ||
| We then heard from one witness that 298,000 ballots had no chain of custody. | ||
| This one's simple. | ||
| The judge should have just said to the defense, can you produce the chain of custody document in question? | ||
| They didn't have it. | ||
| They didn't produce it. | ||
| I don't understand how we're at this point. | ||
| Today we heard from the People's Pundit, Richard Barris. | ||
| He said that exit polling returns for Election Day were substantially lower than anything he's ever seen ever. | ||
| I think he said something like 72% when he normally looks for around 95-98% returns. | ||
| And he believes this is because people were not able to vote, so thus they did not come back. | ||
| Now this was challenged but he basically said due to the errors they talked to voters, voters said that there were long lines and there were tabulation machine problems and because of that he believes people did experience issues, people reported issues and thus a substantial amount of voters were disenfranchised. | ||
| They argued against this today but I think it's particularly compelling but keep in mind it's not definitive proof, it's circumstantial evidence. | ||
| Ultimately what we end up getting in the closing arguments And this was really good for the defense. | ||
| They said it. | ||
| Your Honor, you instructed in your ruling that the plaintiff would have to prove intentional misconduct with the intent to basically subvert the election or flip it in another direction, and they have not proven that. | ||
| That's important, because the judge is going to be like, you're right, you can't prove an individual acted intentionally in an effort to hurt Carrie Lake, therefore, even if the ballots are invalid or otherwise, it doesn't matter. | ||
| That makes no sense to me, because if I trip and fall and accidentally subvert an election, that election got subverted, so it would be no good, you'd have to do a new one. | ||
| It doesn't matter what my intentions were. | ||
| But I guess, as per the law, the judge ruled, if you can prove that someone intentionally acted to alter the outcome of the election, Then that was the stipulation for what they needed to win, and it appears the only evidence they presented was that, yes, at I think it was like six locations they tested, they found the ballot tabulators were misconfigured. | ||
| The only way the misconfiguration could happen is if someone intentionally altered the printer settings. | ||
| It was not an accident. | ||
| And then the defense contends, okay, and even if someone intentionally did that, you can't prove the person who did did it to hurt Kerry Lake, therefore we win. | ||
| Oh, I mean, that is a leap. | ||
| If you intentionally do something that subverts an election, it doesn't matter if it was about — Kerry is not even — it doesn't make sense. | ||
| If they intentionally changed it to a 19-inch ballot, then that was intent. | ||
| Blake, what do you make of this, you know, court hearing? | ||
| What's your assessment on what you're seeing? | ||
| Well, I think the standard that the judge is requiring is even higher, right? | ||
| It's actually Carrie's team had to show intent plus a different result. | ||
| They had to show intent and the result would have been different but for all of these changes. | ||
| A tangible number. | ||
| And that's really hard to prove. | ||
| We'll see what the judge rules tomorrow, right? | ||
| But what's indisputable is that Carrie and her legal team have shown They've just put out in front of everybody, all these, call them, whether it's mistakes or active malfeasance, the election was really messed up. | ||
| It was really messed up. | ||
| Like people went to go vote on election day and the machines didn't work. | ||
| The printers did not work. | ||
| How does that happen? | ||
| Third world is what it is. | ||
| One of the witnesses said 132 voting locations, there were issues. | ||
| Yeah, it's like 30% of the voting locations, which is really great. | ||
| And Abe Hamaday, the Attorney General, right? | ||
| His election was certified as a loss by like 500 votes. | ||
| And I know he's in litigation too, and they're doing a recount, but 500 votes. | ||
| And everybody of good conscience knows. | ||
| And we sued on election day to try to get the polls to stay open for a couple more hours. | ||
| That was rejected. | ||
| Had the polls stayed open one more hour, Abe would be going into his recount probably up a few thousand votes because those votes on election day were breaking heavily for Republicans. | ||
| So Abe's was super close and I think that obviously swung it. | ||
| Kerry's at 17,000. | ||
| I think she has a good claim that like, hey, if the printers worked and people could actually vote when they showed up, that she'd be the governor of Arizona. | ||
| Let's, let's, let's, let's argue for the sake of argument. | ||
| Let's say the voter tabulation problems and all that didn't exist. | ||
| A witness testified that 298,000 ballots had no chain of custody. | ||
| How can you verify where those ballots come from? | ||
| And then you actually, I'm pretty sure the defense's own witness, I'm not sure if it was Jarrett, testified like, well yeah, we didn't track that. | ||
| But by law they have to. | ||
| So okay, hold on there a minute. | ||
| If I was a judge, and someone came to me and said, the margin's 17,000, and these 290,000 have no chain of custody, I'd say, well, okay, that's against the law, new election, end of story. | ||
| I bet the judge won't do that, because the law doesn't say, hey, new election, right? | ||
| And I think we need to change the state law. | ||
| I think the state legislature should say, hey, if you can't prove chain of custody, you can't assume that's a fair election. | ||
| But it appears that the burden of proof right now is on the Carrie Lake team. | ||
| The judge is going to say, well, hey, okay, chain of custody, that was broken. | ||
| That's technically a violation of the law. | ||
| But what's the remedy, right? | ||
| You haven't shown me that they injected new ballots, and that's probably impossible to | ||
| prove. | ||
| Maybe it didn't happen, right? | ||
| What happens to this state if the judge comes out and says, yeah, you know, it's against | ||
| the law to not have chain of custody, but too bad. | ||
| I mean, what are the people? | ||
| I have to imagine half of this state and let alone how the elections impact the rest of the country. | ||
| But I mean, if I lived here and I was a voter and I was told in the press by the judge and by everyone, these ballots have no chain of custody, so we can't verify them, but we're going to count them anyway. | ||
| How could I have faith in that system? | ||
| It'd be really hard to. | ||
| And that's unfortunate, right? | ||
| Like whether Republicans win or not, like, I want everybody to know that their vote counted. | ||
| I want everyone to know that we have a first world election system. | ||
| And the truth is that as soon as you criticize our elections, people call you an election denier, right? | ||
| Well, we have better elections than some countries and we have worse elections than almost every Western democracy, right? | ||
| And the truth is somewhere in the middle. | ||
| And apparently what we're learning in Maricopa is you can botch an election. | ||
| You can just botch it. | ||
| And if no one can prove that you did it with the purpose of putting your thumb on the scale and that it actually mathematically changed the result, you can get away with it. | ||
| How about this? | ||
| It was, um, Maricopa County testified. | ||
| I believe it was, uh, Maricopa County. | ||
| Correct me if I'm wrong, please. | ||
| Double check all this. | ||
| I'm watching the trial, and there's a lot that has to be parsed through. | ||
| But they initially testified that 19-inch ballots could not appear on 20-inch paper. | ||
| Then, when the plaintiff's witness came up and said, actually, yeah, we have it, and they published images of this, they come back today and go, oh, actually, we knew about that problem. | ||
| It affected three other elections. | ||
| And it's like, whoa, hold on. | ||
| And he's like, now we're doing a root cause analysis of that. | ||
| So, but you said the other day it couldn't happen. | ||
| Now you're saying, oh, yeah, we knew about that. | ||
| Okay, so you knew that was a problem. | ||
| It's been a problem. | ||
| You didn't fix it. | ||
| To me, it's insane that what we're basically hearing is the election was improperly done in two ways. | ||
| The ballot tabulators were improperly configured. | ||
| They knew it was improperly configured. | ||
| They're trying to figure out how. | ||
| And there was lost chain of custody on these ballots. | ||
| And they would just be like, yeah, well, you know. | ||
| The crazy thing to me is this is the will of the people, of the utmost importance for our nation, for each state, for each jurisdiction, to know that we are governed with the consent of the people, but that they would come out and the judge would be like, yeah, these call into question the integrity of the election, but we're going to roll with it anyway. | ||
| I mean, I think people are going to lose their minds if that ends up being the ruling. | ||
| I'll tell you, there's already a lot of appetite for more election integrity in Arizona, right? | ||
| It carries whole platformless. | ||
| I'm going to go in and clean this up. | ||
| Whether you're Republican or Democrat, I'm going to bring more transparency to the system, right? | ||
| We're going to reform all this stuff. | ||
| And now if we don't get that opportunity, My heart breaks for people in Arizona. | ||
| It's like, why would anyone trust it? | ||
| So, Blake, you ran for the Senate. | ||
| You did not win. | ||
| What's different about your election? | ||
| How did it go? | ||
| Well, the margin is different. | ||
| I think I lost by about 125,000 votes was the official difference between Mark Kelly and me. | ||
| And I think I drew a tougher opponent, and he's an astronaut, and man, he nuked me with like $30 or $40 million. | ||
| You know, we thought about suing, and was this, you know, was this the right thing to do? | ||
| And ultimately, with all our analysis, like, no, it wasn't. | ||
| Because as messed up as this election in Maricopa was, you can't make up 125,000 votes. | ||
| Like, I don't think I won the election, right? | ||
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Right, right. | |
| I have to have enough integrity to say that. | ||
| I can't sell false hope to my people. | ||
| Like I said, Abe Hamadeh, 500 votes? | ||
| This stuff in Maricopa County absolutely swung 500 votes. | ||
| Now Carrie has the interesting in-between, right? | ||
| 17,000. | ||
| And that's what her trial was. | ||
| And she's trying to prove that but for this incompetence, call it incompetence at best, malfeasance at worst, but for this incompetence, I would have won 17,000 votes. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| Let's hammer that one down. | ||
| Let's say that Carrie Lake's initial argument was, I understand that it was one big misunderstanding by everybody, nobody intended to do this improperly, but clearly we can see that the vote margin could be different if not for all these tabulators being wrong. | ||
| The law could not remedy that. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| The law requires intent. | ||
| It requires intent and it's not, could be different. | ||
| It was different. | ||
| It would have been different. | ||
| And that's, that's a really hard bar. | ||
| It's a really hard bar. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| That's not real governance. | ||
| Real governance is saying, okay, what do we know? | ||
| And let's apply remedy on the facts. | ||
| They're saying, regardless of the facts, there's a high standard that must be met. | ||
| Meaning they could, the system in place right now would actually put a person in power who didn't win. | ||
| I'm saying hypothetically, Just because the standard is too high to change it. | ||
| I think it's insane, because if I were to do something like destroy someone's property, but I didn't do it to hurt them, that wasn't my intention. | ||
| My intention was just like, oh, I didn't have an intention, I just actually destroyed your house, but I didn't intend to hurt you. | ||
| No crime. | ||
| Yeah, apparently when it comes to the, you apply that to the political landscape, it's not a crime, that makes no sense. | ||
| I mean, intention is irrelevant when you're talking about disrupting and destroying things. | ||
| Well, like, if you kill someone... I mean, you're right, somewhat, somewhat. | ||
| If somebody dies and there's no intent, manslaughter. | ||
| It's like, if you're reckless or whatever. | ||
| If you intend to do it, now it's murder. | ||
| But it's still a crime. | ||
| It is still a crime. | ||
| Potentially, you could be driving in your car, and you could hit somebody, and it could be totally accidental, and you don't go to jail for it. | ||
| So, the difference here is, that person still lost their life. | ||
| We still acknowledge they lost their life. | ||
| You may be still held liable civilly. | ||
| We're talking about an end process where one person will be the executive in government. | ||
| Meaning, there is a very simple remedy. | ||
| If we can see that something lacks integrity in the election, we hold a new election. | ||
| Because we're trying to get the will of the people done right. | ||
| And Carrie Lake's opponent, Katie Hobbs, was, what was her, Secretary of State of Arizona during the election, her own election? | ||
| Which I think even California has a law that bans that, right? | ||
| You shouldn't be able to oversee an election that you yourself are running in. | ||
| That's just, even if you didn't do anything wrong, that's just the appearance of impropriety which is corrosive to our politics. | ||
| So obviously Katie Hobbs never should have been allowed to be Secretary of State and preside over this election. | ||
| Well, obviously. | ||
| The Republicans should have spoken out more about Brian Kemp in Georgia for a similar reason. | ||
| Well, it's also important to note that I think the Republicans were very divided this upcoming midterm election. | ||
| We saw a lot of money that was sent in many different places, and I think, very surprisingly, it was a lot of Democratic super PACs that were supporting a lot of the Trump-backed candidates. | ||
| But there's also an article here by Politico that's describing how Trump was splitting donations with you, Blake, 99 to 1. | ||
| Was that the truth? | ||
| Because you were well overspent. | ||
| Because your opponent spent way more money than you. | ||
| Can you just quickly tell us how much your opponent spent and how much you spent on this upcoming midterm election? | ||
| And where was their resistance? | ||
| Because it seemed like a lot of old Republicans didn't want to give you money. | ||
| I have to correct that a little. | ||
| It's a misleading headline. | ||
| Got it. | ||
| It's true insofar as it goes, but actually, you know, on that list share, President Trump was was sending out emails saying it done it to Blake on my behalf. | ||
| We were getting those emails. | ||
| It was helping me grow my email list. | ||
| So the benefit wasn't financial in the immediate term so much as that long term list building, right? | ||
| He rarely does that for candidates. | ||
| So it was actually a big net benefit to me. | ||
| The press sees that and they're like, Oh, Trump is screwing Blake. | ||
| No, that wasn't true. | ||
| donated $100. He got 99, you got a dollar, but you also got the emails from that. | ||
| Yep. And that's a common practice, but the media was just looking to be unfair to Trump | ||
| on that. But so are you saying that the emails he was sending out was intended to fundraise for himself, but | ||
| he included you on it? Or was it intended to fundraise for you and you took the lion's | ||
| share, but it still benefited you? More the former. More the former. And you'd | ||
| have to look at the exact email copy or whatever, but like it was a common practice and they | ||
| And then, so it's like, is that half inaccurate? | ||
| Technically, but it's misleading by lack of context. | ||
| The journalists pounced. | ||
| They pounced! | ||
| But, uh... But your opponent over here spent so much more money than you did. | ||
| Oh man, a lot. | ||
| So I worked my tail off, right? | ||
| And I raised $10 million, which is hard to do when the limits are $5,800. | ||
| We're raising money, you know, phone calls, a couple hundred bucks at a time, a couple thousand bucks at a time, adds up to $10 million. | ||
| Mark Kelly raised about $70 million. | ||
| Hard dollar. So it was about 7 to 1. That's on the hard dollar side. | ||
| And that's the... | ||
| And a lot of it came from McConnell and the GOP establishment, I'd imagine, huh? | ||
| I'm half kidding, by the way. | ||
| I don't think... | ||
| They definitely didn't help me, but they sat out. | ||
| What's your response to the story of Democratic super PACs financing a lot of the more populist | ||
| candidates, a lot of the more Trump-backed candidates this midterm election? | ||
| Because this was one of their strategies, and some people are saying it actually worked in their favor, and there was major Democratic organizations donating to those specific individuals. | ||
| I'm not sure that happened in Arizona. | ||
| You know, people thought that was happening. | ||
| I've heard that alleged. | ||
| I haven't really seen it with my own eyes. | ||
| We saw it, I think, in Maryland. | ||
| And in New Hampshire as well. | ||
| And it was, like, explicit and overt. | ||
| Just because they wanted to run against Baldock or something? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| They thought it would be easier to get moderates if they pushed someone that was more conservative or further right. | ||
| What'd you spend the $10 million on? | ||
| Is that public? | ||
| Uh, I think it's public. | ||
| Yeah, mostly, um, I mean, mostly, you know, TV staff, obviously you got to cover your costs. | ||
| And, and, uh, mostly we had volunteer door knockers and it was a grassroots lean operation, but, uh, but staff and then mostly TV and advertising, right? | ||
| TV, radio, digital, you got to get the message out. | ||
| Did you advertise on social media? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What did Mark spend 70 million on? | ||
| Same stuff? | ||
| TV. | ||
| He nuked. | ||
| I mean, just so August and September, as soon as I won the primary, I won the primary August 2nd, went by 12 points. | ||
| Wasn't particularly close. | ||
| August 3rd. | ||
| The Democrat spigot just turns on, right? | ||
| And every third commercial is just, Blake Masters is a monster. | ||
| Mark Kelly is this great guy. | ||
| Blake Masters is a monster. | ||
| Where he shows you in black and white and the music's like... Yeah, exactly, exactly, all these. | ||
| And you know, I know we're tempted to think, like, this stuff doesn't work. | ||
| This stuff doesn't work, right? | ||
| People can see through it and it's like, well... | ||
| If you go four months and you deploy like 50 million dollars against somebody telling people that they're a monster, they might actually believe it on the margin, right? | ||
| Which, you know what I want to do? | ||
| We were unable to overcome. | ||
| I would love to run a commercial, like it's too late now, but maybe I'll consider this in the future where it's just like one of those campaign ads where it's black and white and it'll be like, Mark Kelly went to outer space. | ||
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How do we know an alien didn't replace him? | |
| And then like, did he go to space? | ||
| Blake Masters is a boy scout who helps a church. | ||
| That's basically the formula, and it's cut and paste, and you do that enough, and the ballot harvesting, right? | ||
| And then they go together, right? | ||
| Because I think people who are really paying attention, people who have a political opinion, they're not gonna be... | ||
| I think sold by those ads. | ||
| But if someone just has in their subconscious while they're trying to watch some entertainment, right? | ||
| Blake Masters is this horrible guy because I've seen it 36 times in the last two weeks. | ||
| Then someone knocks on the door and says, Hey, have you filled out that ballot yet? | ||
| No, I haven't. | ||
| I might not. | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| Hey, have you heard Blake? | ||
| And all of a sudden there's a, there's a vote in the system by a low propensity voter. | ||
| So I just want to ask you just advertising is quite effective. | ||
| I just want to ask you one question, just going along with this conversation. | ||
| What did you learn from this election and what would you be doing differently if you could go back and change anything? | ||
| Going back, I think we'd have to focus more on early voting. | ||
| Harvesting is technically illegal, but there's nothing illegal about tracking ballots and actually raising money to go. | ||
| It's almost a bigger project than one campaign could do, but certainly as a party we need to get better at understanding we gotta be banking votes early. I think Kerry Lake and I, you know, we | ||
| were working hard. We would fill gymnasiums, 500 people, thousand people, night | ||
| after night. We were winning hearts and minds. We had the enthusiasm. We | ||
| had, we were, look, we were chasing votes and the Dems had turned it into a | ||
| mathematical ballot chasing operation. It's all it is now. And it was done very, very | ||
| early and, you know, as soon as voting opened up in October, I think they were able to open up a lead. | ||
| And so we got to get much more quantitative and mathematical about it early on. | ||
| So our reporter, Shane Cashman, he's covering the Carrie Lake trial right now very heavily. | ||
| He had to sit down with Carrie Lake, but he also got to sit down with Ye, Kanye West. | ||
| And he told me, he's like, hey man, Ye's taking ballot harvesting really, really seriously. | ||
| And I was like, that's the one thing I told him. | ||
| And I told him, uh, before the show started, he asked me, how do I become president? | ||
| I was like, I, he asked me three times and he kept getting mad that I wasn't answering him. | ||
| And I was like, cause I'm not a political consultant, but I was like, okay, fine. | ||
| Uh, ballot harvesting. | ||
| And he was like, what's that? | ||
| And I was like, knock on doors, tell people to fill out the ballot, have someone fill out the form to properly return the ballot for them. | ||
| Then it doesn't matter what message you have. | ||
| You don't need to go to anybody and say, here's what I'm going to do. | ||
| All that matters is you knock on their door and say, just fill it out. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| And they'll do it. | ||
| And I'm like, especially if you're if you're Kanye West, you're not going to say Trump, Biden, Kanye West. | ||
| People are going to say Kanye West. | ||
| Celebrity. | ||
| So some states ballot harvesting is legal. | ||
| Some it's not. | ||
| In 39 states, it's illegal. | ||
| And it's not in Arizona. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| It's illegal in Arizona. | ||
| But here's here's here's what is legal. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You can if you have 15 million bucks and the Dems do this and Republicans didn't write to our great detriment. | ||
| But if you have 15 million bucks, you hire a thousand people. | ||
| You assign each person. | ||
| Here's 500 ballots, right? | ||
| People. | ||
| Their names. | ||
| And you can go to their door and knock. | ||
| Hey, have you voted? | ||
| We know you've got a mail-in ballot. | ||
| And that person probably wouldn't have turned it in, but you can just keep bothering them. | ||
| Keep showing up. | ||
| Be polite, but show up at the door. | ||
| Hey, have you voted? | ||
| No? | ||
| Hey, you want me to stop coming to your door? | ||
| Vote right now. | ||
| Open it up. | ||
| Let me walk you to your mailbox. | ||
| That's legal. | ||
| What you can't do is just collect it physically and then turn it in. | ||
| So this is every state. | ||
| In 39 states, you can actually knock on the door and be like, I'll take it for you. | ||
| I think it's 12 states have certain stipulations, like you have to sign a form as a caregiver or something. | ||
| But there are many states where you're allowed to knock on the door and be like, I'll take that right for you to the mailbox. | ||
| And then you end up seeing people coming in and dropping off tons of ballots. | ||
| But I'll simplify it for you. | ||
| Someone knocks on the door in a city And they say, hey, I see you got your mail-in ballot. | ||
| And they go, yeah. | ||
| And he goes, why don't you fill it out? | ||
| And they go, all right, I guess. | ||
| Who am I voting for? | ||
| Just Democrat. | ||
| I go, OK. | ||
| And then what do I do now? | ||
| Just drop it back in the mailbox right there at the front of your door and the mailman will come take it. | ||
| And they go, OK. | ||
| You're allowed to tell them to vote Democrat? | ||
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| These people are not politicians who are going to knock on your door. | ||
| These are activist nonprofits who are just being like, as a regular old person, here's what you should do. | ||
| That sounds like the government telling Twitter to censor for them. | ||
| Like, just because they're not politicians, they're hired by politicians to do it? | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| Look, if I'm a regular person and I knock on someone's door and say, I want you to vote for Blake Masters, that's just me as an individual. | ||
| But if you've been hired by the Masters campaign to do it, it's different? | ||
| That's very, very different. | ||
| But these are non-profits. | ||
| These are not the candidates necessarily doing it. | ||
| To a certain degree, they probably do it to the legal extent they can. | ||
| But what ends up happening is, I think one thing I want to stress is that a lot of Republicans didn't understand how Biden could have gotten so many votes. | ||
| They didn't understand this going into 2022 even. | ||
| And so we end up seeing what should have been a red wave come in substantially less. | ||
| But it's not so much that the votes didn't come in, it's that Democrats got a ton of votes Through ballot harvesting and grassroots efforts, which is totally above board and legal, except because of universal mail-in voting laws and because of absentee voter lists which persist after the first time you sign up, it makes it extremely easy for urban centers to get out the vote and very difficult for rural voters. | ||
| You were mentioning that the rural vote didn't turn out. | ||
| Is that what happened? | ||
| Not how we needed it to in Arizona. | ||
| So think about you driving out to a rural area where every house is a football field away from each other. | ||
| You knock on the door, you wait a few minutes, then you get in your car, you drive down the football field, you park, | ||
| you get out, you knock on the door, you wait a few minutes, someone answers, they say, sorry, I'm not interested, you | ||
| get in your car. | ||
| In a major urban center where you've got one big housing unit with a hundred apartments, you knock on the door, no | ||
| answer, you turn around physically and knock on the door and you get an answer. | ||
| A major advantage to Democrats because they tend to be living in urban areas. | ||
| Like you could argue it's like 1,300% more effective or like 1,700% more effective because the amount of time it takes in an apartment complex to go to like 190 people, it takes you, you probably get to like seven houses in the country or like nine, twelve houses in the country. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Like a 14 to 1 ratio, that's a lot of time and gas money. | ||
| Man, you know, we got to be self-critical. | ||
| Some of this was self-inflicted, like Republicans, you know, we're, we're very into voting in person on election day, this cycle, right? | ||
| The good old fashioned way. | ||
| And like, I'm sympathetic to that. | ||
| I, I think, you know, more people should vote on election day. | ||
| Like that's, that seems like a good thing to do, right? | ||
| This, this crazy extension of mail-in voting that we saw in COVID. | ||
| So, you know, and, and what, what's the left-wing wishlist is just automatic voter registration. | ||
| Let's mail a ballot to everybody, you know, 16 year old voters. | ||
| Sixteen-year-old voters, pretty soon they'll say, like, well, let's just presume that you voted the same way that you did last time, and that you have to opt out, you know? | ||
| I mean, look for that to be on the discourse in the next five years. | ||
| But as long as we have this mail-in voting regime, we need to use it. | ||
| We can't just say, hey, let the Dems bank votes, and then we'll all show up on election day. | ||
| Well, on election day, the printers might not work, right? | ||
| And you can't leave yourself in this vulnerable position. | ||
| I gotta ask you the tough question, tough question for me. | ||
| When I hear that you did not get support from the Republican establishment, I can't say I'm surprised it's the establishment, but they're not giving you the support. | ||
| Meanwhile, the Democrats are giving all of their support to Mark Kelly. | ||
| That plays a role in your defeat, does it not? | ||
| Oh, huge. | ||
| Absolutely huge. So my question then is when They say we got to get Kevin McCarthy to Speaker of the | ||
| House and you know, look I got I got a mess I'm not a Republican not a big fan of the Republican Party | ||
| More like honestly left libertarian, but I feel like the modern left is a weird cult | ||
| So I'm looking for whatever I can get tends to be more so libertarian Republican | ||
| Then they come out even Marjorie Taylor Greene who I like says support Kevin McCarthy and I'm like first of all | ||
| I'm not in Congress. I know they're gonna vote on it, but I'll tell you this I actively opposed | ||
| These people maintaining their positions as Republican leadership | ||
| When you look as your campaign as the best example, they could have done more at the very least | ||
| They could have done anything to support you. | ||
| They don't. | ||
| In my opinion, I think they actively are working against candidates like you and others. | ||
| And then they think, I'm going to walk up as someone who's never been a traditional Republican and throw my weight behind establishment candidates for their... No, I'd rather... Look, Simply put, if Hakeem Jeffries wins as Speaker of the House because, you know, a lot of the Republicans in the House, the Freedom Caucus or otherwise, don't want to support the establishment, I don't care. | ||
| I view it as all very much the same. | ||
| I don't know what your thoughts are, but that's where I'm at. | ||
| I care. | ||
| I think Hakeem would be way worse than McCarthy, but I think we need new leadership. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I think both of those are true. | ||
| And I understand where you're coming from. | ||
| I'm not there, but... I do think he'd be worse, but I just kind of feel like unless there's a reckoning for the Republican establishment, and there's a clean... You know what? | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Let Hakeem Jeffries be Speaker if it means the current iteration of the GOP establishment disappears or is gutted, and then there's a backlash among the donors, and everybody says this was a huge mistake. | ||
| Right now the problem is they're saying the mistake is to support you, the mistake was to support Carrie Lake, when it's actually the inverse. | ||
| The mistake is to support people like McCarthy. | ||
| And if we all do, it'll be the same garbage all over again, 2024 will come around, they'll flub everything. | ||
| If Hakeem Jeffries does win, because a lot of people like me just say, I don't care about those people, maybe then the donor class, maybe then a lot more establishment Republicans might be like, okay, we were gutted and we don't exist as a reckoning for their failures. | ||
| Look, I want the reckoning too, but it might not happen, right? | ||
| Maybe Hakim becomes speaker and then the establishment and the GOP side doesn't fade away. | ||
| And then you have the worst of all worlds, right? | ||
| And so it's an age-old thing in politics. | ||
| What's the lesser of two evils? | ||
| Or if you do that, don't you just get evil? | ||
| But that's the situation, the lesser of two evils. | ||
| That brought us into our current political landscape where we have a duopoly. | ||
| We have one party, not two parties, that are essentially ruling together on a lot of the same issues that don't represent the people. | ||
| The populist movement, the people that used to represent the people were people like Bernie Sanders, were people like Donald Trump, and they have forgone a lot of their policies that would have helped people. | ||
| Donald Trump right now is endorsing McCarthy. | ||
| I think that's absolutely crazy that he's doing so, especially with what happened with the elections recently. | ||
| How do you rectify all of this? | ||
| And for you, what would be the solution here? | ||
| How can we move forward in a way that's more concise, in a way that's actually more reasonable, in a way that actually does represent and help solve some of the people's problems? | ||
| I mean, I think my best answer is to just stay in the fight. | ||
| You know, I don't know whether that means, you know, run for Senate again or run for Congress or figure out a different way to be involved. | ||
| But I don't I don't have a one sentence answer. | ||
| We just have to keep at it. | ||
| You know, a lot of people in Arizona after After the election was certified, said, well, we should have just run boring, safe Republicans instead of Blake and instead of Kerry. | ||
| And it's like, well, I got to tell you, that wouldn't, that wouldn't work. | ||
| But, but even if, even if they would have won, it's like boring and safe Republicans is, is sort of what's delivered us to this moment today. | ||
| And the public is very disenchanted with that politics as usual, the uniparty, it doesn't work. | ||
| And so we have to figure out a way forward. | ||
| I think that way forward is this kind of somewhat populist America first, You know, policy platform, we just have to figure out a way to articulate it that is going to win us elections. | ||
| We had Milo Yiannopoulos on the show just after the midterm, and he explained to us Trump supporters wanted revenge. | ||
| The reason why they were upset, even though they did win, you know, winning the House, it's because they want revenge. | ||
| They want to feel that there's hope. | ||
| They want to see a decisive victory. | ||
| I'm going to be completely honest with you as to how I feel right now. | ||
| When Marjorie Taylor Greene put out that Twitter thread supporting Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, she made a lot of really, really excellent points that were very convincing to me. | ||
| That Kevin McCarthy's made some promises. | ||
| That there's going to be investigations. | ||
| They're going to look into the southern border. | ||
| They're going to look into the Twitter files. | ||
| He actually came out in opposition to the omnibus. | ||
| Things that are all really, really great. | ||
| But while I can reconcile that logically in my mind, I think long term, I don't trust this man. | ||
| I don't trust the establishment. | ||
| I believe they backstabbed the America First candidates. | ||
| And you know, I gotta be completely honest, I kinda want emotional satisfaction. | ||
| I want revenge. | ||
| That doesn't mean I'm willing to give in to illogical thought processes. | ||
| I understand your point on, hey, Kevin McCarthy, he's offering us this stuff, it's better than Hakeem Jeffries. | ||
| But part of me is just like, no, I think at the very least, There needs to be some kind of effort among whatever this faction is of more libertarian-minded individuals that they cannot play this game anymore. | ||
| So you know what? | ||
| If that means that King Jeffries gets to be rid of the House, honestly, I don't care. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I'm so sick and tired of it going on. | ||
| Man, since I got into politics, watching lie after lie, failure after failure, I certainly understand how Luke's feeling with like, just get rid of the government, just wash it all away. | ||
| I'm at the point where it's like, well, you know, maybe Luke's right, but I'll take, let the establishment lose what little opportunity they had for some power, and then we can all laugh in Kevin McCarthy's face and the Republican establishment, and then we can laugh McConnell out of office and say, you know what, we may not have gotten the power we want, but we weren't going to get it anyway. | ||
| Maybe this is just the reckoning they need, and then they need us. | ||
| And I'll tell you, I feel really angry because I feel like they really need me. | ||
| I am not a Republican, I don't like Republicans, but I ended up voting Republican in the past. | ||
| I ended up supporting a lot of Republicans, not just voting, having shows, and then all they do is that I feel like they backstab people like you, they backstab people like Carrie Lake, the media lies about what they're doing, and I'm like, fine. | ||
| I want them now to lose. | ||
| They do not deserve power. | ||
| If the Republicans would stand up to Democrats like they stand up against their fellow Republicans, the political landscape would be totally different and they would be at odds. | ||
| But at the end of the day, that's not what's happening here. | ||
| So how do we rectify this? | ||
| How do we fix this? | ||
| What do you think about voting online in addition to current laws with like a blockchain reference as backup? | ||
| In theory, it works. | ||
| In practice, it terrifies me, right? | ||
| No, I want as little technology involved as voting as possible. | ||
| I think it's crazy that we have, you know, tabulation machines where the code is closed source. | ||
| Like, you can't actually tell what's going on, right? | ||
| Like, if you have it, it should be open source, but maybe you don't even need it at all, right? | ||
| Like, why not get back to precinct-level voting? | ||
| The only technology that I really want is high-definition video cameras trained on manual hands, you know, reporting ballots and results at the precinct level. | ||
| Upload that video online and let the internet have at it, right? | ||
| Like, we want more transparency and less sort of closed-source technology. | ||
| Are you concerned about, like, an open internet voting because it could get hacked? | ||
| I just think you probably can't get there all at once, and the intermediate steps would be extremely insecure. | ||
| Ian's for microchip voting, by the way. | ||
| I prefer graphene tattoos. | ||
| Just to clear the record here. | ||
| There you go, that works as well. | ||
| But I wanted to ask you, is it time for a new party? | ||
| Because it does seem like the larger populist ideas, standing up for the American people, standing up for the American middle class, standing up against the people who committed the Jeffrey Epstein saga, There's a huge portion of those people on the left and right. | ||
| There's also a huge portion of people that don't vote in the United States. | ||
| Is it time to move away and have a political realignment here? | ||
| Is that possible? | ||
| A lot of people are saying that this could possibly happen on the Democratic side. | ||
| A lot of people are saying this could happen on the Republican side. | ||
| Is that feasible from your expertise in politics? | ||
| Oh, is it feasible? | ||
| No. | ||
| Is it time for it? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I'd say it's long past time for it. | ||
| We were never supposed to have this two-party system. | ||
| It's like literally not the government that our framers ever set up or really envisioned. | ||
| I guess they did envision it, they feared it, and they warned us about it. | ||
| But I think the Republican Party and the Democratic Party are probably too established to to change it. And maybe it changes over time. And it | ||
| definitely seems like there's a civil war within the Republican Party, with the old rhinos and the | ||
| anti-establishment. But then there looks like there might be another civil war within just the anti-establishment | ||
| alone with DeSantis versus Donald Trump, with Donald Trump attacking DeSantis recently. | ||
| So it's like a civil war within a civil war. This doesn't look good and doesn't look promising, | ||
| especially with the Republicans not having a lot of institutional power to change anything when | ||
| it comes to ballot harvesting, when it comes to mail-in ballots. | ||
| For me, personally, this is my assessment. | ||
| I don't know if you think I'm too pessimistic or too black-pilled here, but I don't see the Republicans winning anytime soon in many years to come. | ||
| I'd say the saving grace is the Democrats really are that bad, and they're going to... They're horrible! | ||
| They're going to get worse, and so if we, I don't know, maybe we, you know, I think we can do it by 2024. | ||
| We certainly have a lot of work to do. | ||
| I still think the Republican Party is the right vehicle. | ||
| If you care about peace, if you care about prosperity and individual freedom and all the things we care about, I do think the Republican Party is the vehicle to salvage. | ||
| It's the most popular... | ||
| I don't think there's a way into political power, you know, at least right now or in the immediate future, unless you're going through the Democrats or the Republicans. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| I think the internet video is super powerful because right now if we ask people that subscribe to TimCast.com, for instance, to vote for you or to fund you in a campaign, you'd get massive worldwide publicity and money. | ||
| I think that if I were to run for office and did a show where, to my audience, I said, vote for me, I would get substantially less votes than you think. | ||
| Because a lot of people might like watching the show or might like me personally, but they're going to say, oh, come on, he's not going to win. | ||
| And then what, you know, I'm, I'm, I'd rather vote for someone who's got a better chance. | ||
| So I can, Ian, who, who dominates the online space, right? | ||
| Who dominates you, Luke, who dominates, who dominates Facebook, right? Who, who, who | ||
| dominates the people that own the FBI and who's the FBI backing right now at this | ||
| particular time, the Democrats, the leftist and also the establishment candidates. So whoever | ||
| plays ball in Washington, DC gets an unfair advantage on big tech, social media. That's a | ||
| reckoning that we can't underestimate because it has a huge effect on what America thinks, not | ||
| just on how they vote. So until there's a larger reckoning here, I mean, Twitter is one | ||
| social media that Elon Musk is putting everything behind, risking everything, essentially exposing | ||
| the deep state for all the horrible things that they've been doing. But that's one element of | ||
| it. Will we have even congressional hearings that lead up to anything because of this? Well, I | ||
| hope so, but I kind of doubt We have a story from Daily Mail. | ||
| This one's big. | ||
| Spooks infiltrate Silicon Valley. | ||
| Facebook is riddled with ex-CIA agents, including President's Briefer, who now runs Harmful Content Team. | ||
| So many ex-FBI work at Twitter, they have a Slack channel, and Google is rife with ex-CIA. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| The intelligence agencies run the technology sector. | ||
| I guess I'll throw it to you, Blake, having been involved in the tech sector. | ||
| What do you see with this? | ||
| Have you personally witnessed anything like this or what are your thoughts? | ||
| We have personally witnessed Google coming down and being unfair, right? | ||
| So when we were trying to build this small-dollar fundraising email operation, we would find a disproportionate amount of our fundraising emails would get sent to spam in Gmail. | ||
| Well, it's like, that doesn't happen to the Democrats, right? | ||
| It's not just anecdotal. | ||
| We've seen the data on this with many different conservative candidates. | ||
| It's, uh, it's just banal at this point to say that big tech has its thumb on the scale. | ||
| Like, yeah, big tech hates conservatives, and we know that. | ||
| What really got me was, uh, you know, the media. | ||
| And Carrie and I were running against the media, of course, and they called me an election denier for just talking about how You know, the Hunter Biden censorship, like I think that did more than almost anything else to put Joe Biden in the White House. | ||
| Oh, well, Blake's denying the 2020 election. | ||
| And then for Elon to go by Twitter and now subsequent to this 2022 election, of course, but into the Twitter files. | ||
| And now it's like the sordid details are out there. | ||
| It is just demonstrable fact that people at Twitter were censoring this information with the sole goal of helping Joe Biden win office. | ||
| This is just not a conspiracy theory anymore. | ||
| It's just true. | ||
| former FBI in Twitter and current FBI outside of Twitter. | ||
| Yeah, Baker, and yeah, I mean, so it's really bad and we need to disentangle it and look at how hard the media is | ||
| going after Elon. | ||
| Elizabeth Warren is going after Elon, right? Deep State. | ||
| This article by the Daily Mail is worth reading because what you see is agent after agent after | ||
| agent after agent after agent and you see them named and you see them in so many positions of | ||
| power but those are the ones that we know about. | ||
| What about the ones that are undercover? | ||
| What about the ones that we don't know about? | ||
| What about the ones that are compromised at high-level positions of power? | ||
| So there's multiple layers to this, not just overt agents and spies working inside of these big tech social media companies. | ||
| There's a different layer to this that, again, not only shapes Their companies, but shapes the minds of America, and I could make the argument here throughout the last few years. | ||
| Overall, social media has been a net negative for the American people. | ||
| It has led to a mental health crisis. | ||
| It has led to a lot of debauchery. | ||
| It has led to the destruction of the family unit. | ||
| It is leading towards what I believe is the Great Reset, which is essentially just this kind of larger ideas, this larger agenda that is absolutely screwing you over and only empowering the government So, they're using it, it's a psy-op, it's a psychological operation, and you are the target, and you are the victim. | ||
| If you could say social media is a net negative, and 50 out of 100 was neutral, anything below that becomes negative, how negative do you see it? | ||
| 12%. | ||
| Wow, so you think it's horrible, I mean that's really, really a bad thing. | ||
| I'd say 75 bad, 25 good. | ||
| You think it's bad? | ||
| There's some good that comes with it, but it's pretty bad. | ||
| I somewhat disagree. | ||
| I think it's actually slightly more good than bad. | ||
| And that's evidenced by, before social media, the intelligence agencies controlled media as it was. | ||
| I mean, you saw that in the Church Commission, right? | ||
| The planting of journalists at high-ranking positions in media organizations. | ||
| With the internet, it created cracks. | ||
| And then channels like this start to pour through. | ||
| Other creators, people like Steven Crowder, start to pour through. | ||
| They can't control every person who posts, though they try, so there is a net positive, in my opinion. | ||
| It is better than it was before, but overall, when we look at the larger effects, and again, my estimate, again, to answer your question, 12 to about 25 percent. | ||
| Overall, when we look at how people are affected, especially how children are affected by this, when you see the mental health negative effects, when you see women harming themselves because it's trendy, when you see Just the level of less interactions that people are having, the overall effect, not just politically, but socially, financially, economically, I think the overall negative, it's a negative effect to be honest with you. | ||
| Politically, there are more voices that people are able to hear, but they're squashing on those independent voices and making sure that they reach less and less people. | ||
| Well, I think this will be reversed, everything you're saying, as soon as Blake becomes CEO of Twitter, then we're going to see such a massive net positive that the world becomes an instant better place. | ||
| That's funny, although I was just going to say this is dynamic, too. | ||
| Wherever you thought it was 75, 25, 50, 50, right now it's dynamic. | ||
| And I suspect in 20 or 30 years we'll know. | ||
| Will this internet and social media experience be net, you know, liberatory? | ||
| Will more people be free and happy because of it? | ||
| Or will we be living in something like a techno dystopia surveillance state? | ||
| Look at what's happened to the children. | ||
| Look at modern-day children. | ||
| Look at attention deficit disorder. | ||
| Identity disorder. | ||
| Look at the use of online adult content by children. | ||
| Look at those effects that will be with children rewiring their brains right now as we're speaking to have instant gratification, to have their trophies, to have Just glamorizing them living for the world, living for the likes, rather than living for their communities, living for their families, living for a future. | ||
| They rather have this kind of, you know, selfie image of themselves, glorifying themselves, rather than having an importance on anything else around them. | ||
| And let's talk about 30 or 40 years. | ||
| Blake, what do you think about Neuralink? | ||
| Are you taking the chip? | ||
| I'm not taking the chip. | ||
| I'm pretty skeptical. | ||
| I'm pretty skeptical. | ||
| I like Elon as a not I just seems like seems like a Seems like a road you don't want to go down | ||
| Like, hackable, like your brain will get hacked? | ||
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| For instance. | ||
| Just one bad thing, I guess. | ||
| If you're CEO- Have you heard of Ghost in the Shell? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, in this anime, people's brains or eyes can be hacked. | ||
| You could be walking down the street and then all of a sudden you go blind. | ||
| It's bad, right? | ||
| It's bad. | ||
| When Elon talks about how Neuralink could cure people who have like paralysis or whatever, what people don't seem to understand is that all systems are exploitable, and this could mean as well that they could do bad things to you. | ||
| It's not just about the things it could fix, it's about the things that it could hurt. | ||
| They could make you feel, like depending on the sophistication of a Neuralink chip in your brain, if it can cure depression, it could make you depressed. | ||
| So you think about how bad it could get, It gets scary bad. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, look at the number of children having, you know, a gender dysphoria. | ||
| That's been going up as well. | ||
| That number is only going to be going up from here. | ||
| What if it could help people feel good about who they are? | ||
| It could. | ||
| And it could do really horrifying things where they put you in a prison camp, tell you to execute the innocent children, and then you're like, I can't do it. | ||
| Then they click a button on their iPad, you go, ooh, this feels You know, I think like social media is not bad or good, but it's powerful. | ||
| If it's used for evil, that's powerful evil. | ||
| And the Neuralink's like an acceleration of that neutrality. | ||
| Ian, you shouldn't be chasing what feels good. | ||
| You should be chasing, you know, hard work, dedication, building something, growing something, sacrificing something in order to have something outside of yourself. | ||
| A lot of problems with our society comes down to, I need instant gratification, I need instant likes, I need instant attention right now. | ||
| That's the root to a lot of our problems. | ||
| But like, some people are in physical pain. | ||
| And that's the psychological trick that they play on us in order to have us engaged in these kind of larger black mirror devices. | ||
| I gotta give a shout out to Andrew Tate. | ||
| That's the guy, right? | ||
| Andrew Tate? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Cobra Tate! | ||
| Cobra Tate, he's got a video where he said, I just saw this viral clip, he's like, my happiness is irrelevant. | ||
| When I wake up, whether or not I'm happy or not happy, it doesn't matter. | ||
| I have to do the exact same thing. | ||
| And I'm like, yeah, he's absolutely right. | ||
| Dude, he's so humble. | ||
| He comes off so aggressive and like, um, like I guess hubristic. | ||
| He even says that about himself, but he was just doing an interview where he was like, dude, I've been a pawn on the game for so many years. | ||
| My coach would say run, I would run. | ||
| I would do exactly what I was told for years of my life. | ||
| Up at 4am, run 7 miles, I run 7 miles. | ||
| I do exactly what my dad tells me. | ||
| Now he's in a position where he can be himself and he is the king of his environment. | ||
| Just to bring it back to the conversation we were having, his point is that your happiness doesn't matter, you have responsibilities. | ||
| And so with the internet, Instant gratification with things like Neuralink that can make you feel better. | ||
| These are shortcuts that ultimately, in my opinion, will actually lead to you being miserable. | ||
| And so if you think about where Neuralink gets you, you've got right now like the body, the fat acceptance movement, the body positivity stuff. | ||
| These are people who are suffering. | ||
| These are people who are more likely to experience cancer and other health impacts due to their weight being told to accept it and be happy with who they are, but it's causing them damage in the long term. | ||
| You put a Neuralink chip in someone's brain and then they're unhappy about something? | ||
| So you click the button and then all of a sudden they're happy? | ||
| They're not going to solve their problem. | ||
| I'll put it this way. | ||
| Pain is a good thing. | ||
| If you can't feel pain, people think like, wow, there are people out there who can't experience pain. | ||
| They can't. | ||
| And so a lot of people say, you're so lucky. | ||
| And they go, no, I'm not. | ||
| I could bite my tongue off. | ||
| I stepped on a nail once and didn't realize it. | ||
| Many of these people can't sweat because their body can't differentiate between temperature. | ||
| Not being able to feel pain is a bad thing. | ||
| We don't like pain. | ||
| Pain sucks. | ||
| But it's an important thing that when you feel it, you can correct whatever the problem being caused is. | ||
| If you can't feel Upset anymore because the chip is just correcting the | ||
| problem. You're gonna become lazy You're gonna have no goals | ||
| You're gonna be laying around and you're just gonna be a fat blob lying on the floor clicking the button to feel | ||
| good like don't Throw that Excel man brave new world or rather did exactly | ||
| you know the unwillingness to feel pain right people that are the | ||
| inability to Two people think that's oh, that's a gift. That's a gift. | ||
| That's just a Midas touch like this is just biblical You know be careful what you wish for the Midas touches | ||
| He wished that anything he touched would turn to gold wouldn't that be nice gold gold gold gold gold and then you | ||
| give your daughter A hug and then she freezes into a golden statue right oops. | ||
| Yeah, so that it sucks It turns out you're the CEO of Twitter hypothetically | ||
| How would you make the company go profitable? I think there's a path to doing that medium term and long term | ||
| You know, Twitter is the original short form content. | ||
| It's really good at it. | ||
| Now it's sort of being, you know, competed away. | ||
| TikTok should immediately be banned, of course, right? | ||
| And Twitter should bring back Vine. | ||
| So there's things to do. | ||
| But I think Twitter needs to fill its feeds with longer form products. | ||
| Like, I think Twitter needs to buy Substack. | ||
| It should have built Substack. | ||
| Substack should never be an independent business. | ||
| Like, obviously, all these people posting on Twitter should be able to monetize newsletters right from the platform. | ||
| And I don't mean just the review feature that they had. | ||
| It just was that was kind of bolt on. | ||
| Wow, you should be the CEO. | ||
| And and like, OK, so so video, right? | ||
| Twitter sucks as a video platform. | ||
| And yet YouTube has no inherent social sort of viral social network like Twitter does. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, like, I think I think YouTube is very lucky that no one at Twitter for the past five years has cared about video. | ||
| Yeah, I think I just want to make another point here because there's a lot of different things that we could we could actually do here. | ||
| I've been thinking about this as well. | ||
| One, we have super chats on YouTube. | ||
| Why can't you have super chats on Twitter allow your comments and replies to be voted just like mines does mine | ||
| does it does an? | ||
| Incredible things what is it called the in super super mines people are able to? | ||
| Put in a super chat if you answer it you get that money that people were given to you | ||
| That's a great thing that mines developed another thing that I would recommend Twitter to do is to | ||
| Essentially allow the platform to run on its own without any kind of major money | ||
| Decentralize it let people host their own servers let people use the platform in their own way | ||
| So then even if you don't have any money the platform still lives on and people get to host their content and get to | ||
| communicate with people and also | ||
| Be able to share their content elsewhere and move it around with their history of what they posted. | ||
| I think those two ideas, along with your idea, would be amazing. | ||
| Videos? | ||
| Long overdue. | ||
| Monetize those videos. | ||
| Have people... I mean, when we had Periscope on YouTube, this was... I'm sorry, Periscope on Twitter. | ||
| This was a way that engaged so many different people, and then Twitter took it down because people were dominating it that they didn't like the political ideas! | ||
| So, these are just some ideas that I have off the top of my head that I think Elon should listen to. | ||
| Sounds good. | ||
| Some people recommended that. | ||
| You take it. | ||
| I don't want the responsibility. | ||
| Get that hot potato out of here. | ||
| One problem with videos is the cost of the servers, at least is what I'm told, and it is a big deal. | ||
| So we tried to decentralize it at Mines, like BitChute, but it was so slow and grainy trying to pull it from all these other people. | ||
| I don't know much about decentralizing video feeds. | ||
| Not technically, although it's probably going to only get better and better, right? | ||
| And I would look to add things that people want to pay for, right? | ||
| Like Twitter needs, it's woefully dependent on advertising. | ||
| I'm not saying advertising goes away, but it needs to certainly have new revenue streams where creators are getting paid for their content. | ||
| You know what I realized? | ||
| I'm paying $8 a month for Twitter Blue. | ||
| I am so happy to do that right now. | ||
| I pay $40 a year or something on Mines to have the upgraded Mines... I'm not sure what it's called exactly. | ||
| Sorry, Bill. | ||
| Mines Pro? | ||
| Mines Pro. | ||
| To be on Mines Pro. | ||
| And it's like having a Netflix... I don't have a Netflix account. | ||
| I don't watch Disney. | ||
| I don't have those accounts. | ||
| I pay for the social networks that I love. | ||
| That's where I like to... I would pay $15 a month on Twitter. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| For all those benefits. | ||
| To be able to post long videos. | ||
| To be able to make you a video. | ||
| Like, at tag Elon Musk. | ||
| Hey, man. | ||
| What's happening, bro? | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Twitter's made it really hard over the past few years for people to actually make a business on Twitter. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which is really weird. | ||
| YouTube's done much better in this front. | ||
| Did you see they blocked link sharing recently and kind of backpedaled on it? | ||
| Link sharing? | ||
| There was like, you can't link to your whatever other social media page. | ||
| Which actually, YouTube does the same thing. | ||
| I believe Twitch does the same thing. | ||
| I believe Facebook. | ||
| Facebook blocked Mines. | ||
| Do they still block Mines? | ||
| Dude, Microsoft blocks Mines. | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| I don't know if Facebook still does. | ||
| Elon announces this new policy where it's like, you can't use Twitter to just promote other platforms and everyone loses their mind. | ||
| And it's like, YouTube's always had that rule. | ||
| So if you made a video like, subscribe to my Twitter account, and that was the title of the video, they'd- Yeah, they'd nuke you. | ||
| So, here's what I'm saying. | ||
| I think they mentioned paid DMs. | ||
| I got a lot of people who hate me. | ||
| And they'll pay a lot of money to say nasty things to me, and I will take their money. | ||
| So a hundred bucks, I will set my paid DMs at a hundred dollars, and then all the people who hate me can say all the nasty things in the world, and I will monetize that. | ||
| And you have to respond. | ||
| And then Twitter gets a small cut of it. | ||
| Well, I don't know about responding. | ||
| Just fill up my mailbox. | ||
| Well, I mean, like... Well, people could do that now, right? | ||
| No, they can't DM me. | ||
| I've closed DMs. | ||
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| So, if he made paid direct messaging, I would say, okay, you want to direct message me, and I don't follow you, a hundred bucks, you know, and then you can send me whatever nasty garbage you want, and you've got to pay me to do it. | ||
| Monetize the hate. | ||
| But you don't have to read it? | ||
| You've got to read it to get the money? | ||
| You've got to open the email? | ||
| That's what I said, right? | ||
| I accept. | ||
| I accept. | ||
| I will read the comment of someone saying, you know, Pym Tool is a bald fool or something like that if it's a hundred bucks. | ||
| Totally worth it. | ||
| I brought this up before earlier. | ||
| Reverse OnlyFans. | ||
| Like a crypto token at Twitter. | ||
| Mines has a Mines token that's a utility token that functions on the network. | ||
| You can put a token into the network to get a thousand views of publicity. | ||
| Then you can buy the tokens. | ||
| But I know, like you were saying earlier, like SEC violations you've got to watch out for. | ||
| Like Library got raked for SEC violations. | ||
| I don't know the exact. | ||
| I don't know either. | ||
| The risk with the FEC is if they don't like your politics, well hey, that token is a security. | ||
| And that's just arbitrary? | ||
| Elizabeth Warren could come up with some justification for why yours is different, but like the justification is she hates you and wants you crashed. | ||
| Yeah, if all it does is get you publicity on the network that it's sold on, um, and then maybe used for fun cosmetic stuff on the network, I just don't see any security involved in that. | ||
| It's all utility at that point. | ||
| I think you're right. | ||
| But they'll argue it anyway. | ||
| Yeah, if you want to be on the other side of the FEC enforcement action. | ||
| Because I think that could take the company very profitable, or at least very, very, very profitable. | ||
| I mean, obviously what would happen is the Twitter token would become super valuable and it would become traded on Binance and stuff, and then they might say, hey. | ||
| Then it's a security congratulation. | ||
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| Yeah, punished with your own success. | ||
| It's interesting, though, to think how much they could raise if they did that. | ||
| And that's just the IPO or the ICO. | ||
| You're talking about initial coin offering they could raise money for. | ||
| I think then that might be a security, because mines didn't do an ICO. | ||
| That's a big part of it. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| They just make tokens and then sell them, and then you use them on the network. | ||
| There's no public investment. | ||
| The investment is you buy the token. | ||
| What do you think of the future, man? | ||
| You feeling optimistic? | ||
| Not by default, but I'm not not a doomer either. | ||
| You know I really think it's contention it matters what we do and And why wouldn't it like human agency is really important if you're up if you're too optimistic and like all things will just work out well You're probably not gonna work as hard and making that happen, and then if you're just fatalistic. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| It sucks Oh, I just lost my election that sucks everything's doomed. | ||
| No somehow that doesn't feel quite right either. | ||
| It's like I It's scary, but we've got to work hard. | ||
| Your mindset and positivity does matter when it comes to your overall productivity and what you're able to do in life, but at the same time, you've got to be realistic with all the problems. | ||
| And I totally agree with you. | ||
| You've got to have a balance between the two and have a certain level of basis in reality, but also some optimism on top of that. | ||
| You know what gave me a lot of optimism was the judge granting Carey Lake's trial. | ||
| I mean, because everything we've seen in the past has been dismissed, dismissed, dismissed. | ||
| These judges have been weak and just, I don't want to deal with it. | ||
| I'm not saying this judge is going to do the right thing in terms of, well, I'm not going to say the judge is going to give us what we want, but the fact the trial happened at all, I think was a major step forward in terms of confidence. | ||
| So I'm feeling good. | ||
| I think the night is always darkest before the dawn. | ||
| I think what we're seeing with James Lindsay, you know, the things he's calling out and exposing with continued success, his growing prominence, calling out the grimmer phenomenon. | ||
| And I think Elon Musk buying Twitter, it's kind of like it's never been better, to be completely honest. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| That didn't have to happen. | ||
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| And if he didn't do that, we never would have got the Twitter files. | ||
| Who knows what the coming installments will be? | ||
| And look, I have tremendous faith in the inherent goodness and I guess just common sensical | ||
| nature of the American people and most people worldwide. | ||
| And we have a political establishment, I think left and right, that is corrupt and doesn't | ||
| work. | ||
| And those things don't go together. | ||
| So how long is the pendulum? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Hopefully things don't have to get that much worse before they get better. | ||
| But I do think, yeah, they'll get better. | ||
| And we've seen this ebb and flow in human history, right? | ||
| But we've got to work hard to tighten up that, what's the technical term for the length of | ||
| pendulum. I don't know. | ||
| Whatever it is. | ||
| Let's make it short. | ||
| The diameter? | ||
| But I think it is getting better. | ||
| I think we're on the backswing. | ||
| It's starting to come back. | ||
| I hope so. | ||
| I think with conservatives starting to recognize the power of ballot harvesting and ballot chasing, I think 2024 is going to be a game changer. | ||
| It's like you were saying, it's about raw numbers. | ||
| They're going after the raw numbers. | ||
| It's not about the messaging for Democrats about the raw numbers. | ||
| For Republicans, it's going to be both. | ||
| Because Republicans, a lot of Republican voters are higher information voters than Democrats. | ||
| That's why Democrats want 16 year old voters. | ||
| They want low information. | ||
| Well, Democrats will vote for John Fetterman. | ||
| You know, where some of our voters, God bless them, and we got to work hard to persuade them. | ||
| But some of them is like, well, I read some bad things about Blaker. | ||
| I saw this TV commercial. | ||
| You got to go after that. | ||
| And it's like, well, I appreciate the individuality in our party, and we have a lot more diversity in our party, actually, in terms of diversity of thought. | ||
| But the Democrats will vote for Fetterman or anything, or Rock, because it's got a D next to its name, and that's a challenge that we have to overcome. | ||
| But I think the Republicans just need to target those people. | ||
| These people who are low-information voters voting Democrat aren't voting Democrat for any good reason, which means Republicans could win those votes. | ||
| They just aren't trying. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| We need to show up. | ||
| What do you think about refocusing a message? | ||
| We've talked about this before, too, like graphene or some sort of industrialization message of making the United States an industrial superpower. | ||
| Just a real quick preface. | ||
| I think the point of the conversation is that messaging is immaterial, but again, your thoughts? | ||
| I think it matters, though. | ||
| And while we're working hard to go in a legal way, of course, harvest ballots, collect ballots, I think interesting messaging does matter. | ||
| For one, why aren't we focusing more on nuclear power? | ||
| You know, I only had so many campaign dollars, and we had to talk about border and inflation, and those are the top two issues. | ||
| But every, you know, stump speech, I'd try to find a way to work in nuclear power. | ||
| It's like, this isn't even new technology. | ||
| It's like old technology that, for bizarre reasons, countries like Germany have decommissioned, right? | ||
| We have about 50 nuclear power plants in the United States, nowhere near enough. | ||
| Most of them are decades old. | ||
| And so, if you care about climate change, if you care about, you know, Carbon-free energy generation. | ||
| Why are we not going all in on nuclear? | ||
| And when I would mention nuclear power, it was actually somewhat of an unexpected applause line in some very right-wing Republican rooms. | ||
| Like, obviously not going to get rid of oil and gas. | ||
| We need to be drilling. | ||
| We need to be fracking. | ||
| It's like all of above kind of approach is appropriate for the next few decades. | ||
| But man, 50 years from now? | ||
| 80% of our power should be generated from nukes. | ||
| At least if the path we're going, we'll probably have new technology like vacuum vibrational things and fusion power, which is a, they call it nuclear. | ||
| It's a completely different technology than fission. | ||
| So there, you can't really call them both nuclear. | ||
| It's a misnomer. | ||
| We got to lean into innovation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| As the broader point, it's like we should be agnostic about what it is, but like what it isn't is, you know, some dumb subsidy for some wind thing that is not even going to work. | ||
| I think what's happening, you remember in Texas two years ago, or was it last year, the deep freeze that ruined all these wind power, these windmills, or whatever they're called, wind generators, and we're headed in a few days for another deep freeze in Texas, I'm told. | ||
| This is terrifying. | ||
| People died, people froze to death in their houses because they had shut down coal plants leading up to this. | ||
| And I think that's why people are like, yes, nuclear, yes, heat, yes, because it gets cold. | ||
| If it goes down to 45 degrees in your house, then nothing really matters other than some heat. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I think I think Americans would be here for whether it's a new party, if you could somehow bootstrap that into existence or a Republican Party that was like, hey, we're the party of competence. | ||
| We're the party of technology. | ||
| We're the party of families. | ||
| We're the party of sane trade deals. | ||
| And, you know, the party that doesn't want to get into wars halfway around the world. | ||
| I think people would be into that. | ||
| I think it's like, we need charisma, too. | ||
| Like, I used to think, I was telling you earlier, like, I was like, or I didn't actually mention, you were saying you were a Republican, we were younger. | ||
| I was like a Democrat when I was younger. | ||
| I like, I went after charisma. | ||
| I was always drawn to, like, Bill Clinton, because he was fun. | ||
| Did you like Howard Dean? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Was that the guy that was like, yee-haw! | ||
| Yeah, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama. | ||
| I like the dudes that could make you feel good. | ||
| And it's only later I'm realizing, like, oh, I've been snowed this whole time, man. | ||
| They were making me feel good to get me, to get me to pay my dollar. | ||
| So, but I do think we need to introduce charisma. | ||
| But the thing is, like, Luke, you were saying, don't vote for political parties. | ||
| I don't care about the party. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I thought in 2007, we don't need parties anymore, man. | ||
| We just need someone that's willing to step up and do the work. | ||
| You're right, but that, I don't think, um, takes into consideration the political reality. | ||
| That there are a lot of people who won't vote outside of the two-party system out of fear of not winning. | ||
| And that has a substantial impact. | ||
| The Libertarian Party does a great job of getting a lot of people of principle to vote for the Libertarian Party, but they don't move the needle. | ||
| What do you think, did you just do it enough? | ||
| And how did Abe Lincoln win? | ||
| Look, look, the MAGA party is not the same as the Republicans, and that's why there's a Republican Civil War, at least what the media calls it. | ||
| The reason why I think the establishment didn't support you is because you're, you know, Blake, you're more libertarian, you're outside the Republican Party in a literal, in an intangible sense. | ||
| Like, quite literally, you're a Republican, but as far as the establishment Republicans are concerned, the MAGA Republicans are a different party and they're an insurgent group coming in. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And we're going to get an interesting, I guess, case study here. | ||
| Kirsten Sinema, right, the other Democrat senator from Arizona, just announced, I think a week or two ago, she's going to be an independent. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I think probably because she read the polls and realized with her voting record, it'd be impossible for her to win a Democratic primary. | ||
| So now she's daring the Democrat establishment to run a Dem against her. | ||
| I thought that was awesome. | ||
| She forced the Democrats to keep her on as their candidate. | ||
| When Sinema said she was an independent, they immediately knew they could not run anyone else and they can't primary her. | ||
| They have no choice but to get behind her. | ||
| Well, we'll see if they have that kind of discipline. | ||
| He should have went independent in 2016. | ||
| He forced the Democrats to keep her on as their candidate. | ||
| When Sinema said she was an independent, they immediately knew they could not run anyone | ||
| else and they can't primary her. | ||
| They have no choice but to get behind her. | ||
| Well, we'll see if they have that kind of discipline. | ||
| I think Schumer wants the situation you outlined, but this other congressman, Ruben Gallego, | ||
| sort of communist guy from Phoenix, he really wants to get in. | ||
| And I hope he does, right? | ||
| And then, you know, grab the popcorn. | ||
| Are you going to run again? | ||
| If Gallego gets in, then that gives me a lot to think about. | ||
| Because in the three-way race, I will win or I would beat Gallego one-on-one. | ||
| When would that be? | ||
| Like four years or what? | ||
| No, 2024. | ||
| 2024? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Cinema's up in 2024. | ||
| And so you could run for person? | ||
| Yeah, but the Dems might actually have enough discipline to keep a Dem out. | ||
| I think you should run anyway. | ||
| Hey, there you go. | ||
| She's tough to beat. | ||
| She's tough to beat. | ||
| Mark Kelly was tough to beat, though. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I think, you know, some people say, oh, Blake, you lost by five. | ||
| It's like Oz lost by five in Pennsylvania, and he had a way worse opponent and thirty million dollars from Mitch McConnell. | ||
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| So I think in a different year with the, you know, and look, I made some mistakes, too. | ||
| Like I didn't run a perfect campaign and I've been self-critical about that. | ||
| And next time I do it, I will tell you this. | ||
| I will be better and I will win. | ||
| I live in West Virginia. | ||
| I instantly like cinema more than Mansion. | ||
| Because she because she comes out as an independent and Manchin is still playing this ridiculous game of being a Democrat in literal MAGA country. | ||
| What's going to happen there? | ||
| I feel like he's now he's underwater, right? | ||
| I think he's going to is he just going to switch? | ||
| I think he's going to switch to being a Republican. | ||
| He was asked and he said, you know, something like, we'll wait till later to talk about it or something like that, which made everyone immediately be like, OK, he's Manchin's going to switch. | ||
| This is I think West Virginia is like 86 percent Trump supporting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, every county, I think, in 2020. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Absurdly high. | ||
| You know, I where where I live in West Virginia, it's right wing nut jobs who believe every single conspiracy theory you can think of. | ||
| I mean, these are people who are Trump, Trump, Trump. | ||
| Hands down. | ||
| And then you say mansion, and they go, ugh. | ||
| Like, he's supposed to be on our side. | ||
| And it's not even about the name of the party. | ||
| They feel like he's not representing them properly. | ||
| Nutjob's a term of endearment, by the way. | ||
| It is, yeah. | ||
| Like, when you go to West Virginia, and you say, I love living on a mountain full of right-wing nutjobs, they all laugh and smile. | ||
| Because it's like, it's taking the word back, you know what I mean? | ||
| They say if you're sane in an insane world, you're actually... | ||
| You look insane. | ||
| You look like a nutjob. | ||
| We had a break-in recently. | ||
| I think it was Targeted. | ||
| But I tweeted, I was like, you gotta be insane to break into a house in West Virginia, especially if it's like a political thing. | ||
| And I was like, just imagine breaking into a house, and there's some right-wing nutjob with a Barrett M82 pointed at you yelling, yeehaw. | ||
| And like, all the people out here are laughing at the idea, because they love it. | ||
| They love it. | ||
| They're like, that's us! | ||
| You know, don't come a-knockin' if you don't want to see what's on the other side. | ||
| Do you think, Blake, do you think the solution to I don't know, what is your end goal, really, with the United States, or in your lifetime? | ||
| How would you like to see the United States develop? | ||
| I think one litmus test for, are we on the right track? | ||
| Is politics boring again? | ||
| Like, I think politics should be boring. | ||
| It shouldn't be what people are investing all their time and emotional energy into. | ||
| I would like a campaign on the slogan. | ||
| To me, it's more than a slogan, but it is, I think, a good political slogan. | ||
| In America, you should be able to raise a family on one single income. | ||
| I think if we got back to an economy where you can actually do that, maybe it's really hard in a globalizing world, but man, if you could just, if young people had economic opportunity and were, you know, on that choosing to get married and have kids in their 20s and were able to buy and afford homes and people didn't have to be obsessed with politics, right? | ||
| We weren't at each other's throats all the time. | ||
| I think that would be really healthy. | ||
| Do you see politics as pop culture right now? | ||
| Yeah, that's really messed up. | ||
| Yeah, it's really messed up. | ||
| What was his name? | ||
| Schumer was dancing with Stephen Colbert. | ||
| Did you see that video? | ||
| Unfortunately, I did see that. | ||
| I'd forgotten about it. | ||
| You said earlier, it's a worldwide movement. | ||
| I think you mentioned that earlier, but I've sensed worldwide that humans want freedom. | ||
| The First Amendment of the United States Constitution is one of the most... | ||
| Inspirational governmental actions ever taken on earth, and I feel like we have so many people from Australia that watch the show and England and all these great countries that Unfortunately get can get arrested for standing outside of someone's house And I hope that maybe that there I kind of see like a United States of Earth where we have like state rights still But we just are have like a form of kind of a sort of unified government. | ||
| I don't know if that's too pious globalist In a way. | ||
| I mean, I like, I think inevitably we're globalizing. | ||
| I just want it to be done right. | ||
| I want it to be done so that we maintain our bill of rights. | ||
| Like a republic, where the United States has sovereign borders, where we control our own government, but there is some kind of legislative system externally that can't interfere internally with the nation, but can help prevent wars. | ||
| Yeah, and even Ohio still has its sovereign borders, and every state still has its own rights, like Alberta, for instance. | ||
| I think there's an Alberta secession movement right now. | ||
| Alberta becomes a state of the United States of Earth, and then We just keep growing from there. | ||
| And then everyone lives under the Constitution? | ||
| Yeah, but the Constitution's malleable, but yes. | ||
| Yeah, I think the Bill of Rights for sure. | ||
| I think it's a good idea. | ||
| Maybe in order to get to that point, you know, some people will have to be made to understand. | ||
| So perhaps we could, like, put together a group of people with perhaps weapons that could go in and tell these people they now live under our way of life. | ||
| And we would call it, like, a liberation. | ||
| We would send out liberation forces to other... | ||
| Sounds horribly communist. | ||
| It all goes back to Woodrow Wilson, right? | ||
| The League of Nations. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And now it's the UN. | ||
| And let's just have a layer on top that will help it. | ||
| And it's like, well, the danger is that, you know, that layer becomes incredibly bureaucratic and powerful and it gets more power for itself. | ||
| And pretty soon, I think this is where the century is trending, if we don't resist it, you get a one world totalitarian government. | ||
| I like the idea of like China wants to build its version and China wants everyone to be Chinese in a hundred years. | ||
| And we actually, nope, we've never figured out a way to do that in a safe way. | ||
| And I think we should look towards decentralization. | ||
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| Decentralization is the key word here that a lot of people need to focus on more than ever, as there are a lot of American Western elites financing China, setting up policies in the United States that allow China to take over the world. | ||
| That allow China to gobble up all the resources that ... allow them to pollute as much as they can and then ... everyone else is supposed to be under these climate ... regulations these these these echo you know fascist kind of ... policies that limit people's ability to have energy that's ... absolutely it's absolutely crazy what's happening in this ... ever-globalizing world but but how is it going to change I ... don't know that's that's just a very hard question to ask ... but I also wanted to kind of talk about Peter Thiel a ... | ||
| You were closely associated with him. | ||
| I don't know if you still are. | ||
| He's kind of a libertarian. | ||
| Some people call him more of an internationalist. | ||
| How would you kind of peg his political understanding and what's kind of his response to everything that's happening right now? | ||
| I mean, the New York Times calls Peter and me far-right nationalists. | ||
| You know, so it's like, are you an internationalist? | ||
| Are you a far-right nationalist? | ||
| You know, those are kind of incompatible. | ||
| Are you a libertarian or are you an authoritarian, right? | ||
| So it's so hopelessly confused. | ||
| I think Peter, like me, started very libertarian and, you know, to the extent we play in electoral politics, it's Republican, conservative. | ||
| But I think, you know, you can't really reduce him to labels like that. | ||
| Like he's... | ||
| Actually kind of an independent thinker. | ||
| Imagine that, right? | ||
| You can't just... We don't have that now. | ||
| Increasingly we don't. | ||
| That's really dangerous. | ||
| And one problem in electoral politics that I've seen is, man, you're supposed to really stay on script. | ||
| And if, you know, and sometimes I didn't and I paid for that, you know, and it was kind of conventionally speaking, it was a mistake. | ||
| But the problem in modern politics is you're not allowed to be wrong. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| Because if there's two seconds of video where you say something wrong, maybe you're exploring an idea, right? | ||
| But if that's wrong, and if it's cuttable and pasteable into an attack ad that Mark Kelly and the Democrat machine puts $30 million behind, well, that's a problem for you. | ||
| But if you're never allowed to be wrong, then you're never allowed to think, which is why so many politicians feel like wind-up dolls, right? | ||
| Robots that just say the thing that the consultants wrote, and that's safe. | ||
| And then, like, what kind of politics does that produce? | ||
| The kind of politics we've had, and it fails people. | ||
| Outside of the tremendous amount of money he made for the social ramifications, do you think Peter Thiel has concerns about funding Facebook or regrets? | ||
| Or PayPal. | ||
| Yeah, PayPal especially. | ||
| Well, I think it is probably really sad to see. | ||
| I mean, because PayPal, he hasn't been involved in since 2001, I think. | ||
| 2002, they sold it to eBay. | ||
| And to see it become, I mean, A, this extremely profitable business, right? | ||
| That's probably nice. | ||
| But to see it become this woke, horrible... I mean, PayPal's one of the worst, and I know Peter agrees with that. | ||
| So that's gotta be hard to create this thing and it's your baby and then all of a sudden | ||
| it's ruined by... | ||
| It's like watching your kid go to college and come back with a shaved head and pink | ||
| eyebrows. | ||
| Telling you how racist and bigoted you are dad. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Spitting on you and hating you. | ||
| So that's gotta be horrible. | ||
| I mean Facebook was a really good investment in 2004. | ||
| He, you know, it was a good investment. | ||
| And then he sort of rode the wave and saw it become like this really charismatic company. | ||
| 2008, 2012, Facebook was going to take over the world. | ||
| 2014, right when we wrote this book about zero to one monopolies, kind of warning people, hey, monopolies can be good. | ||
| You know, they can also be really, really bad. | ||
| I think Facebook has been net very destructive for the past five or six years. | ||
| And ultimately Peter hopped off the board, right? | ||
| So it's this whole life cycle. | ||
| I think starting in around 2008. | ||
| Facebook started getting really, really, really bad. | ||
| It was the beginning of the algorithmic newsfeed when people started having too many friends and liking too many pages. | ||
| And so the feed was just moving too quickly. | ||
| I could be wrong, but my understanding is Facebook decided to implement an algorithm where it would feed you more of what they thought you would like to see to keep you on the platform for longer. | ||
| The echo chamber confirmation bias. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Then you see the transformation of the BuzzFeeds, the Huffington Posts. | ||
| They started adhering and molding themselves to the algorithm. | ||
| And the best example of this is Mike.com, which when it started was pro-Ron Paul, but quickly realized the algorithm favored wokeness. | ||
| And it's a really, really simple mathematical equation, right? | ||
| In the beginning of the internet, or I hadn't said the beginning, but in the late 2000s, early 2010s, the Ron Paul revolution was in full swing. | ||
| It was a meme, it was viral, people believed in it. | ||
| The algorithm starts becoming more prominent. | ||
| And what happens is rage-inducing content gets more clicks and gets more shares. | ||
| So police brutality videos start going viral. | ||
| This contributes to a lot of the libertarian thinking. | ||
| But then, something happens. | ||
| If you make a video about racism, it goes viral. | ||
| You make a video about police brutality, it goes viral. | ||
| So that's, you know, X views and Y views. | ||
| But you make a racist police brutality video, now it's XY views. | ||
| It is multiplied. | ||
| It is bigger. | ||
| All of a sudden you start seeing articles from like Vice where it's like, you know, Gay people, gay trans people of color are the strongest | ||
| argument in favor of Black Lives Matter to cram all of those words into one article | ||
| to maximize algorithmic pressure. | ||
| And you end up with intersectionality and wokeness being amplified, monetized, and profitable. | ||
| People hijack the really weak artificial or the machine learning algorithms. | ||
| And then when they went public, Facebook went public, they started charging people monies | ||
| to get your own followers to see you as part of this algorithmic boost. | ||
| I remember in 2011, we were working with minds and this Facebook group called Exposing the Truth, | ||
| which was hugely popular. | ||
| And then as soon as they went public, man, no views. | ||
| And everything was pay-per-view. | ||
| What happened when Facebook went public? | ||
| We had Vivek Ramaswamy on the other night, and he was saying they were expected to have like a $55 public offering when they go public. | ||
| Stock's supposed to be $55. | ||
| It came out at like $18. | ||
| And then he said it was like a wealth distribution thing, like intentionally they... Well, I think the point of the conversation was maybe that was the exit for, you know, intelligence or other Nefarious entities that wanted to get their money out of the machine somehow. | ||
| Like they wanted people that were honest brokers to be like, Oh, I'm bailing on this. | ||
| And then, or just to not buy or something. | ||
| They were dumping their, their connection to it. | ||
| Bad time to dump because I mean, Facebook stock exploded in the year subsequent to the IPO. | ||
| You did not want to sell. | ||
| I mean, what is it currently? | ||
| I haven't checked lately, but I want to say 2013, 2014, 2015, that stock did incredibly well. | ||
| What were you doing with Peter Thiel? | ||
| I know you're working with him in San Francisco. | ||
| What was your role? | ||
| Just managing the family office, you know, always trying to find the next thing to invest in. | ||
| So his investment company, Thiel Management? | ||
| And the cool thing about Peter is, while he's, I think, the world's best venture capitalist, or certainly top three, but I think he's the best. | ||
| He's always, you know, it's like, One minute you're talking about what to invest in, the next minute you're talking about China, and what's going to happen in 30 years, and then peak oil, and what's the deal with that? | ||
| And then he's just he's really intellectually omnivorous. | ||
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Is he a peak oil believer? I Have to ask him. | |
| I think he would have said yes 10 years ago and now not so much. | ||
| It's a very contentious idea that I believe I don't actually believe in. | ||
| But would you say his principles are more aligned with making money or sharing kind of his larger libertarian, more right wing ideas? | ||
| Because when you have so much power and influence, you're either motivated by let's make all this money or let's promote these principles. | ||
| He did have, I think, backing of Ron Paul, and then went and supported Donald Trump in the last election. | ||
| So I was just wondering from your perspective, and if it's too personal, you don't have to ask. | ||
| No, it's not too personal. | ||
| I mean, I don't want to speak for him. | ||
| He'd probably come up with some cut why those were, like, actually, you know, not mutually exclusive, and why they actually compound if you pursue both goals at the same time or something like that. | ||
| Do you guys define peak oil? | ||
| What is that? | ||
| That's a theory that the oil is going to be running out, there's not going to be enough oil, and therefore we need to get off oil immediately. | ||
| I think it's true, I just think the question is, how much oil? | ||
| Obviously there's a finite amount, there's a finite earth. | ||
| So the question is, is there so little oil that we might run out? | ||
| Or is it that it is finite, but there's so much human could never begin to consume all of it? | ||
| Yeah, I don't believe it to be true, because a lot of the science is also backed by a lot of the people who are saying, you know, the world's going to end in a few years because of the climate. | ||
| So we see a lot of the same rhetoric for the same people. | ||
| It's a decade, it's always a new problem. | ||
| It's always a new controversy. | ||
| Yeah, there's an alarmism, right, to it that never quite pays off. | ||
| pans out. Exactly. The IOC saying the world's gonna end. | ||
| Yeah, the ocean levels are gonna rise, the ice is going to... and then it was the ozone layer a | ||
| couple decades before that, and then what was it a couple decades before that? There | ||
| was always something going on. Global cooling. Global cooling, yeah, global warming. The ozone's | ||
| not a good argument in my opinion because a bunch of regulations were put in place. Ban CFCs, | ||
| the ozone is fine now. Yeah, but the sensationalism... So that actually gives them brownie | ||
| points when you make that argument because they're like, oh yeah, we banned the things causing | ||
| that, we fixed it. | ||
| So I say, you know, look, it's not one or the other. | ||
| We had global cooling, now we have global warming, that gives me pause. | ||
| The ozone layer thing's an entirely different issue. | ||
| Yes, I'm just talking about the kind of talking points when people are saying the world is going to end every decade. | ||
| That was one of the talking points, and the parameters of what you described is correct. | ||
| We just gotta start a new one, we gotta start, like, How about global tremoring? | ||
| Acid rain is also another big one. | ||
| Artificial intelligence, that's one. | ||
| Global tremoring. | ||
| More earthquakes are going to happen because of... Cracking. | ||
| Well, that's a real one. | ||
| That's a real one, too. | ||
| But I was gonna say, like, the earthquake in San Andreas, the San Andreas Fault's gonna go because, insert human activity here, it's all the humans doing jump rope, jumping up and down, shaking the ground, it's gonna, you know, we gotta stop, no more exercise, stop exercising. | ||
| A real one is we might get hit by meteors if we just sit around on our hands for the next 300 years. | ||
| It wiped out previous civilizations. | ||
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| Solar flare is going to wipe out all of our electrical equipment. | ||
| Hard to tie that one back to human causes, but that's why it's always considered a serious | ||
| event. | ||
| It's all of the radio waves. | ||
| We're messing with them. | ||
| Yeah, that's bouncing around. | ||
| I'd submit that the two real ones, one, which is more of a slow boil, is China. | ||
| I really do think China is an existential threat long term, unfortunately, right? | ||
| We're already in some kind of cold war with China, and we need to make sure we win that | ||
| so that we never get into a hot war with China. | ||
| And then speaking of hot war, it's nuclear power, or nuclear war. | ||
| I still think we're underpricing the risk to having the Russia-Ukraine situation escalate | ||
| into an all-out nuclear war. | ||
| Wait, so you oppose giving Zelensky $45 billion? | ||
| I do. | ||
| Did you oppose him wearing green army fatigues when he went to the White House? | ||
| I think that's... He should have worn a suit! | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| I don't give a damn. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| They're giving away, they're gutting this... First of all, I'm gonna just come out and say it, I know guys, I went to the White House, I didn't wear a suit either. | ||
| But that's not the point. | ||
| The point is... | ||
| I'm not concerned that a dude showed up not wearing a suit. | ||
| I know a lot of people are talking about the decorum of the White House. | ||
| I'm like, bro, I'm less concerned about that and more concerned that they unfurl the Ukrainian flag and then say, Mitch McConnell's like, the top priority for America is to support Ukraine. | ||
| At least that's what Republicans think. | ||
| It's like, no, that's what you think, dude. | ||
| Regular people are kind of like, why is gas expensive? | ||
| When I saw Biden put his hands on Zelensky, I was like, oh, I pictured him thinking and said, hello, presidential puppet. | ||
| Hello. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Because he's a puppet. | ||
| They put him up and they put him in power in 2014 when they forced a revolution in Ukraine. | ||
| Then they just installed this guy. | ||
| I know maybe it's not a popular. | ||
| I will tell you as a candidate for federal office, if you oppose giving unlimited amounts of money to Ukraine, they will call you a Putin puppet. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| How dumb is that? | ||
| Like, Putin's bad, the invasion's bad, I condemn it, okay? | ||
| It's like we should look for ways to get those two countries to the negotiating table and we all want a ceasefire, right? | ||
| But remember when Rand Paul just stuck his neck out and said, hi, I can't block this, you know, I forget it was $40 billion at the time, but if we're going to send it, can we at least get an inspector general assigned to it? | ||
| Can we get a spreadsheet so we know if this money is just being wasted or if it's just being stolen or what? | ||
| Did you hear Zelensky's wife went on like a shopping spree or something? | ||
| Forty grand or something like that. | ||
| They say if you want to see who our next enemy is, look at who we're funding right now. | ||
| I keep hearing that pop up, and I'm like, wait, so is Ukraine, are the Ukrainian Nazis our next war in six years? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| With the Azov Battalion? | ||
| When Russia, assuming, if Russia ends up winning for whatever reason, and then all those weapons are sitting there among pro-Russian factions, and they get armed and then start fighting against us, I wouldn't be surprised. | ||
| Well, they're not just sitting there. | ||
| There's also intelligence reports detailing how there's already a very boosterous black market already in Europe right now with | ||
| many of the advanced US weapons being sold to of course criminal gangs, | ||
| probably jihadists that now have surface-to-air missiles that could take down | ||
| airliners and airplanes. So you know when we're just sending weapons down there | ||
| without any transparency or accountability that that's a recipe for | ||
| This is the same administration and government that says it's too dangerous for you to have a handgun with so many rounds in it, but they're sending surface-to-air missiles on the black market to Europe right now, which is absolutely mind-boggling. | ||
| Here's what I think. | ||
| You know, that $45 billion? | ||
| I would rather they spend it on a gigantic sign floating in outer space that says, Vladimir Putin is a very bad person. | ||
| Because at least it's ours, and we're spending it as we choose instead of just giving it away to Ukraine to fund a proxy war. | ||
| Granted, let's be real, it's not even a proxy war anymore, it's just, it's a NATO conflict with Russia. | ||
| They were really overt about it. | ||
| They're like, they are our allies, here's the Ukrainian flag. | ||
| I don't know if they said ally. | ||
| What do you, what's your vision of a ceasefire and drawdown of the militants in Ukraine right now? | ||
| I mean, I think we basically know the contours, right? | ||
| It's like, I mean, so the problem is Ukraine definitely wants Russia out of Crimea. | ||
| I don't think that's in the U.S. | ||
| interest. | ||
| I don't think U.S. | ||
| is going to force that, right? | ||
| If Ukraine is simply not allowed to join NATO, and that's a line in the sand, but they can join the EU, let the Donbass have a plebiscite, they can figure out who's going to rule the Donbass. | ||
| I mean, I think you could draw this. | ||
| I'm not like an expert in this stuff, but I think you could draw a peace agreement that gives Putin some face-saving ability to get out of | ||
| this thing because it hasn't worked well for him. It gives Ukraine most of what they want and it de-escalates | ||
| so that we don't actually have nuclear missiles flying in six months. It just feels | ||
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| I actually don't know how with it he is, right? | ||
| But it feels like he's kind of just in zombie-like fashion marching us towards nuclear war. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't think the chances of that are very low, but of course the costs of that are so high. | ||
| I mean, we're talking if the missiles start flying, it's like two billion people dead in 48 hours. | ||
| Well, you can't have that. | ||
| And so why are we even... | ||
| Flirting with pouring more gas on the fire by sending this money in this unaccountable way. | ||
| It's a real problem I don't want to be cavalier about it, but I fear that if you just put oxygen on it Are we actually? | ||
| Threatening to make the problem worse and no one has been able to give me a satisfactory explanation for know why this is super Okay, and this is this is de-risking it. | ||
| I just think we might be adding risk to the system. | ||
| It's really complex No, we're escalating it. | ||
| Every time we arm them, every time we do that, we stop the possibility of any kind of peace deal moving forward. | ||
| And there's a big possibility of a limited nuclear war there. | ||
| I think also this conflict allows China to be stronger. | ||
| It allows them to have more influence. | ||
| Especially with the actions that are happening because of this war affecting the poorest people in the world, China's kind of stepping in while there's a big crisis that's built in there. | ||
| And I kind of wanted to ask you, do you see China or Russia as the bigger threat to the United States? | ||
| Because they're also working on crazy projects with Bill Gates with mini nuclear reactors. | ||
| They're working on a lot of, you know, technology that we're not working on here. | ||
| They have a lot of money, especially from Western elites. | ||
| I see them as kind of a bigger threat myself. | ||
| China's a way bigger threat. | ||
| This is not debatable. | ||
| It's like Russia under Putin, I think he's bad, you know, whatever. | ||
| But no, they're incommensurate, right? | ||
| And one of the risks, by the way, of just punishing Russia with so many sanctions, you throw the kitchen sink at them, the West risks pushing Russia into the arms of China, right? | ||
| China would love that. | ||
| China would love to have Russia as some sort of quasi-satellite state and this new alliance, new axis against the West, right? | ||
| Why would we do that? | ||
| That we should try to get out of this war with Russia and Ukraine. | ||
| We should try to force them to have a ceasefire. | ||
| And then, ultimately, I think it's all hands against China. | ||
| That just seems undebatable. | ||
| The CCP, I imagine you mean? | ||
| Yeah, CCP. | ||
| You can't conflate all of China with the CCP, but actually you kinda can, as long as the CCP's in power, because that's how totalitarianism works. | ||
| It's important, I think it's important to differentiate between the Chinese people, because they're under that regime as well. | ||
| Sure, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Basically modern slaves. | ||
| I look at, like, eastern Ukraine, I think you mentioned the Donbass region, there's two freeways that go down into Crimea, and I wonder if there's a ceasefire, and we end up, there ends up being, like, what two freeways are this? | ||
| This is an interesting philosophy. | ||
| East 97 and East 105, those two freeways that go down into Crimea. | ||
| I mean, Russia wants a land bridge down into Crimea. | ||
| You could give the western freeway, East 95, to Ukraine and East 105 to Russia and just have some sort of peaceful alignment. | ||
| I know that Zelensky is very much like Ukrainian national sovereignty. | ||
| We're not giving up our land. | ||
| Period. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| And as long as the United States is funding that message, I don't see it happening. | ||
| I think we really need an American push for a ceasefire. | ||
| But to blockade Russia from the Black Sea makes no sense! | ||
| Like, when the Soviet Union fell apart, they gave Ukraine all that land basically to neuter Russia to make sure it didn't become another global hegemon. | ||
| But at this point, it's like, yo, it is a global hegemon. | ||
| It's one of the third most powerful countries in the world. | ||
| Next to the United States and China, probably. | ||
| Um, and I think, I don't know, you make peaceful solutions. | ||
| That's me from the outside looking in. | ||
| What did you just solve out over there? | ||
| Just Ian Politicus. | ||
| I need to go to Moscow with Lex Friedman as my translator. | ||
| Or NU Luke. | ||
| Wait, you don't speak Russian, right? | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I'm Polish. | ||
| There's a big difference between the two. | ||
| And then I need to go to China with Jack Posobiec as my translator. | ||
| And then they'll have their own translators and they'll be keeping each other in check. | ||
| They're going to give you the intrusive COVID test up here, you know what? | ||
| Ain't happening. | ||
| I would do it. | ||
| I'll do it. | ||
| If it means global peace, I'll put it up my butt. | ||
| You heard it here, folks. | ||
| Can we get that on a meme? | ||
| Can somebody meme that right now? | ||
| It already happened, yeah. | ||
| Send it to me. | ||
| For world peace. | ||
| Wow, that's very brave of you. | ||
| Thanks, sir. | ||
| You're the hero. | ||
| A lot of these conversations, I kind of feel like we have no idea what's really going on. | ||
| That these intelligence agencies know way more about international affairs than we do. | ||
| They don't justify or explain it to us for Reasons of retaining power, but also for security reasons. | ||
| So we're probably sitting here saying all this stuff. | ||
| They're probably sitting back in their offices going like, you have no idea. | ||
| I'm sure that's right. | ||
| And then also the opposite is somehow probably right. | ||
| Like, you know, maybe with all their information, they actually don't know what's going on either. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or remember WMDs that they're in Iraq. | ||
| Yeah, but were they really or were they not? | ||
| Or was that just a lie to us? | ||
| It was a psyop to convince the American people to support the war, just like the Gulf of Tonkin. | ||
| No, they knew there was no WMDs. | ||
| There was weapons inspectors that came out and they were silenced. | ||
| They were ignored by the media. | ||
| They were gagged by, of course, the federal government. | ||
| There was individuals. | ||
| The only chemical weapons that Iraq had was the ones that the United States sold to them when they were at war with Iran. | ||
| And the U.S. | ||
| government was financing both sides of that conflict, both sides of that war. | ||
| And they knew. | ||
| There was strategic papers out there showing specifically, you overthrow the government of Iraq, You're going to have Sunni Wahhabists take over the area. | ||
| You're going to have massive sectarian violence. | ||
| You're going to have Iran's sphere of influence be expanded and growing in the region, which is not for the American strategy, which is to align themselves with Saudi Arabia and the Sunnis. | ||
| So this was a recipe for disaster, and they knew this. | ||
| They had it all outlined. | ||
| They knew, hey, we're going to be hitting a beehive here and causing problems for the next few decades. | ||
| Eh, screw it. | ||
| We're going to do it anyway. | ||
| The political policy papers were all there. | ||
| Everything was lined up. | ||
| I was screaming about this. | ||
| I was there. | ||
| You know, I was saying, this is absolutely crazy. | ||
| This is insane. | ||
| There's no WMDs. | ||
| This is just the project for a new American century realized in real life. | ||
| And that's exactly what happened there. | ||
| So you're on the same age as me and Luke, I think. | ||
| I think you might be the youngest person here, Blake. | ||
| 36, what do you got? | ||
| 36, but your birthday's in August, March, and then Luke, when's your birthday? | ||
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| You guys all 36? | ||
| Shout out to the 36-year-olds out there. | ||
| But I'm bringing this up because I'm curious of, you know, back during the loose change era, the Ron Paul revolution, were you following that stuff? | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| I was a big Ron Paul guy in 07-08. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I assume, like many others, that leads you to this position right now. | ||
| But I was just wondering, I mean, I'm wondering... I mean, I definitely would have preferred John McCain to Barack Obama. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| I see quite a bit of difference between them, but zooming out, not as much difference as I would have liked. | ||
| And then you had Ron Paul, who was basically like talking about this set of questions that nobody was talking about. | ||
| And I forget how he did in his primaries. | ||
| I mean, it wasn't, the revolution did not happen, right? | ||
| But it still galvanized a lot of people. | ||
| Like you said earlier, people believed in it. | ||
| And I think he actually got Did he get like 10% in New Hampshire or something? | ||
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They cheated him. | |
| They cheated him in so many different ways, especially when it came to the polls, especially when it came to the corporate media coverage of him. | ||
| I remember following that. | ||
| They wouldn't mention him. | ||
| Yeah, they screwed him over. | ||
| As John McCain was literally singing songs about bombing Iran. | ||
| And also, we have to understand, what happened with Barack Obama was a direct result because of the mistakes, not mistakes, but because of the destruction of the United States caused by George W. Bush. | ||
| George W. Bush was put in a position of power. | ||
| He abused that power. | ||
| He destroyed the American Constitution. | ||
| He destroyed the American economy. | ||
| And because of that, we had a cultural pushback, just like we did during Vietnam and the JFK assassination, where, of course, we had the leftist become more prominent, mainly because, in my opinion, according to Bush, overreaching, doing too much and becoming a totalitarian leader, which he was. | ||
| I thought Obama was an example of like hoping that we can put an innocent charismatic guy in power and hoping that he'll save us like a superhero and like he gets in and gets co-opted like everyone else in that position when in reality we need a ground-up movement and he promised like I'll be there for you and I think had we done a ground-up attempt at some sort of economic revolution that he wouldn't | ||
| have said no, he would have sat by and let it happen. | ||
| He was looking to do it, but he couldn't do it from the office. | ||
| There's too much... | ||
| That's the fascinating thing about Obama is he ran on hope and change, and it's supposed | ||
| to be discontinuous from Bush, right? | ||
| And he effectively harnessed voters' dissatisfaction, and I'm something new. | ||
| And actually, his administration represented stasis and continuation and lock-in, and Wall | ||
| Street got even richer, and the Patriot Act got even more fortified. | ||
| You thought drone strikes under Bush were remarkable? | ||
| Well, Obama just, you know... | ||
| They called him... | ||
| Pedal to the metal on that. | ||
| Obama, and they called him deporter-in-chief. | ||
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Yeah, he actually deported a lot of people. | |
| That's right. | ||
| When I talk to the Border Patrol guys on the campaign, they would say, you know, Trump was great. | ||
| Solid A. But then they'd say not to be partisan about it. | ||
| Like Obama, like B. Biden, F. In terms of how these administrations supported us, right? | ||
| Like Obama actually understood. | ||
| And go back to an Obama speech from 08 or 09. | ||
| He sounds like a right-winger on immigration. | ||
| He says, well, obviously a country has borders, and if you just let anyone in, you don't know who's coming in, then you can't have a country, you know? | ||
| And it's like, wow. | ||
| You say that now, and wow, you're a bigot. | ||
| But that was Barack Obama in 08. | ||
| I'm not sure if he believed it, but he knew the politics of the time were such that he had to say that. | ||
| I would love to get just to talk to Barack in a room with no satellite phones beaming in and listening and hear like, you know, how co-opted did you get, dude? | ||
| I know that Michelle was trying to do the Let's Move campaign. | ||
| Get off sugar. | ||
| It was sugar is bad for you. | ||
| Let's move and cut sugar out of our diet. | ||
| And then the sugar industry came and was like, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Let's make it an exercise campaign, not diet. | ||
| So it was like, okay, now Let's Move is now an exercise campaign. | ||
| Sugar industry, you're back in business. | ||
| Katie Couric does a documentary on that. | ||
| Better than ever, right? | ||
| Didn't the Let's Move campaign, it's like they, you know, saturated fat is bad. | ||
| We're going to ban this 2% milk from schools. | ||
| And instead they introduced like strawberry flavored skim milk, which is just like cancer and tons of sugar, but hey, it has no fat. | ||
| High fructose corn syrup and seed oils. | ||
| Good intentions can actually backfire. | ||
| Surprise. | ||
| We're going to go to Super Chats! | ||
| If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share this show with your friends. | ||
| My friends, this is the last show of 2022 because tomorrow everyone's going to be traveling so they can be with their families on Christmas Eve. | ||
| Christmas is on Sunday. | ||
| And we were like, well, Saturday's Christmas Eve, we don't want to make people travel on Christmas Eve, so we're gonna let people travel for those that need to travel the Friday, so we're basically gonna wrap up. | ||
| And then the next week, we had a couple of people interested in coming on, and then we got cancellations, and I was like, I don't think we can fill a full week, to be completely honest. | ||
| Plus, nobody likes working after Christmas. | ||
| Not to mention, Monday is a travel day after Christmas, so I was just like, let's just take the week and stop trying to swim uphill. | ||
| Swim upstream. | ||
| And, you know, I don't like taking days off, but We're not going to resist. | ||
| We're going to have a good vacation and we're going to see our families. | ||
| But for now, we're going to read those superchats. | ||
| So again, smash that like button. | ||
| We got Kyle who says, Blake should move to Kentucky to challenge McConnell in the next election. | ||
| If not, Massey should do it. | ||
| I think Massey should do it. | ||
| Massey's awesome. | ||
| What a national treasure that guy is. | ||
| I got the chance to meet him a couple months ago. | ||
| Stand-up guy, obviously very funny on Twitter. | ||
| He's a model congressman. | ||
| He's really great. | ||
| No comment on moving to Kentucky to challenge McConnell. | ||
| Jazz says, Tim, I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I really liked the new Avatar. | ||
| Do you guys see the new Avatar movie? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Haven't. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| I don't want to see it. | ||
| I probably will for cultural reasons. | ||
| It will probably be a fine and entertaining movie, but I just really just don't like it. | ||
| I hear it's very culturally appropriate and inappropriate and appropriative and not woke enough. | ||
| So that's why I won't see it. | ||
| People have said it's good. | ||
| Is it James Cameron directed it? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He says that testosterone is the toxin in the world. | ||
| I mean, you can get too much tea. | ||
| You gotta balance your tea. | ||
| Oh, we got Raymond G. Stanley Jr. | ||
| Tim, last super chat of 2022. | ||
| A positive note. | ||
| My folks told me they'd never again voting Democrat just because they're furious about porous border, billions to Ukraine and our government not caring about its own citizens. | ||
| Look, the positive, positive things are happening. | ||
| The border, the southern border, man. | ||
| Jorge Ventura is down there just doing God's work and the amount of videos and transparency he's providing for people to see these people being trafficked across the river day after day after day after day for years. | ||
| Like, what in the hell? | ||
| That is, I've never seen anything like that. | ||
| Millions of people. | ||
| Literally millions. | ||
| And then the White House press secretary says, that's not how it works. | ||
| People don't just walk across the border. | ||
| And it's like, no, millions of people have walked across the border since January of 2021. | ||
| This is why I can't believe these voters, these, these, these voters are so stupid, but I guess they are like, there's videos of it. | ||
| But people I know personally are like, no, that's not true. | ||
| And it's like, can I, can I, can I pull up the video and show you what happened? | ||
| Like you're lying. | ||
| It's a right wing trick. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| You're in a cult. | ||
| Sorry, dude. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| All right, here we go. | ||
| Andrew Brews says, tried sending a meme of Joe Biden walking with Zelensky with a photoshopped Hunter Biden in the background to my mate on Facebook Messenger, and I got hit with a violation and got logged out of Facebook. | ||
| Well, I mean, why were you making fun of Joe Biden? | ||
| You know, have you thought about how maybe you deserve it? | ||
| Can you believe this guy trying to make fun of Biden like that? | ||
| Yeah, thank you. | ||
| Call the FBI. | ||
| Call the FBI. | ||
| Well, they already know because, you know, they're on Facebook. | ||
| What do we got? | ||
| Oh, Hi Dare says, love you guys. | ||
| Thank you for helping to keep sanity and insane world. | ||
| See you in 2023. | ||
| I think our January 2nd show is going to be really, really big. | ||
| I think we got a really awesome guest. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Can we say who? | ||
| No. | ||
| Got it. | ||
| Because it might not happen. | ||
| This is how it goes. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, like for a lot of guests, uh, they'll say yes. | ||
| And then a week goes by and like, Oh no, something came up and then we're like, we'll find somebody else. | ||
| So if we announce it, then, you know, just ends up not happening. | ||
| Sagas of History says, I want my, I want my MTG now. | ||
| Look at them establishment. | ||
| That's the way they do it. | ||
| They omnibus spend on the gender studies. | ||
| That ain't working. | ||
| That's the way they do it. | ||
| You're money worth nothing. | ||
| And they take the kids for free. | ||
| Oh, I get it. | ||
| It's to the tune of that song. | ||
| Money for nothing. | ||
| Is that what the song's called? | ||
| Dire Straits. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Sting sings on that. | ||
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I want my MTG. | |
| Oh, MTG. | ||
| I want my MTG. | ||
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That's the way they do it. | |
| Gas Addict says, spending my birthday with you guys, if you don't fix something that you know is broken and it breaks, that is malice. | ||
| End of story. | ||
| Yes, that's what it seems like. | ||
| If you break it, whether or not you intended to break it, you broke it, and it needs to be fixed. | ||
| Matthew Odder says the law in Arizona doesn't require intent to provide a remedy. | ||
| It requires either intent or that the number of questionable ballots put the results in doubt. | ||
| The judge conflated these. | ||
| I think that's right, actually. | ||
| And the question is, when the judge conflated them, is that the new standard? | ||
| Somehow it shouldn't be, but it's a legal ruling. | ||
| I'd understood it to be, you have to show malice, basically malice, or some sort of innocent mistake that was enough to change the result. | ||
| The question is, have they shown either? | ||
| Then it seems like, yeah. | ||
| Well, the question is, will the judge say they've shown either? | ||
| Here's the important issue. | ||
| Evidence is not proof. | ||
| Okay, so having witnesses provide circumstantial evidence is not definitive proof. | ||
| And the example I give to people is, you come home from work, your chocolate cake is destroyed, it's on the kitchen floor, and there's paw prints in it. | ||
| Is that proof? | ||
| What do you think happened? | ||
| The dog ate it. | ||
| No, that's not proof the dog ate it. | ||
| It's proof the dog stepped in it. | ||
| Because then you walk over and there's the cat with chocolate cake all over its paws and the dog's got nothing on his mouth. | ||
| So it turns out the evidence did not prove. | ||
| But let's say you see the cake knocked on the ground. | ||
| It's a vanilla cake this time because dogs can't eat chocolate. | ||
| And there's a paw print in it. | ||
| The evidence suggests to you, I'm gonna go check the dog because there's a paw print here. | ||
| That's evidence. | ||
| And when you go to the dog, he's got icing all over his face. | ||
| Okay, that's the proof. | ||
| The evidence brought you there. | ||
| So in this instance, what we have is Evidence was presented to the court, sworn testimony, affidavits, all of that stuff. | ||
| More than enough, in my opinion, that the court, the judge should, the first thing the judge should have said is, okay, defense, can you produce a chain of custody documents that they say don't exist? | ||
| First question you should have asked. | ||
| Because the answer is apparently no. | ||
| But, okay, at the very least, the evidence presented should result in a hard investigation from an independent process where they go in to make a hard determination on the facts so they can say, we have evidence, we followed the evidence, here's what we found. | ||
| I'm worried the judge is gonna be like, meh. | ||
| You know, have a nice day. | ||
| So we'll see. | ||
| We will see, we will see. | ||
| You know, but it is good that he granted the trial in the first place, because it's more than we've seen in the past. | ||
| Alright, Sam Uriah says, if GOP begin to harvest, Antifa and BLM will hunt the people in the ground game in the streets. | ||
| We will lose 2024 the same way. | ||
| We are done. | ||
| Nah, I'm sorry, that's too pessimistic for me. | ||
| I actually think people bring up Orange County. | ||
| Republican, ballot harvesting is introduced, turns Democrat, Republicans figure it out, turns Republican again. | ||
| So I'm fairly optimistic actually. | ||
| I think, especially with Elon Musk, I mean that was a nuclear bomb dropped in the culture war. | ||
| Just massive. | ||
| Very good news. | ||
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Let's see what we got. | |
| Joseph Flynn says, the past six years are the result of the 60 years of groundwork the political elite have laid down. | ||
| We don't have 60 years to undo their work. | ||
| How can we win? | ||
| I like y'all, but alternatives don't work against evil. | ||
| How does this not end in open violence? | ||
| Open violence is the victory path for the machine, the establishment, and the left. | ||
| That's why they have locked people up over January 6th for two years without a trial. | ||
| Because they know how to control that. | ||
| Because they know regular people are scared. | ||
| The path to victory is confidence building and confidence breaking. | ||
| That is, in a fifth generational war or conflict, you have to win hearts and minds. | ||
| And with cameras on every street corner, violence doesn't work. | ||
| I mean, look at all the police brutality videos that went viral. | ||
| There was a period at the end of the 2000s where, like, every video on Facebook was police brutality. | ||
| That was devastating to government. | ||
| Like, you ended up with a whole wave of libertarians and anarchists being like, abolish the police. | ||
| So what works is being on the side of peace, being on the side of charisma, influence, and you gotta win some elections and change some rules and change some laws. | ||
| That's what we gotta do. | ||
| But I suppose there's a question of, if there is no reconciliation, then people get violent and that scares me. | ||
| All right. | ||
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| Federale says, Tim hit the nail on the head. | ||
| Milo was right. | ||
| Look at what people who care have had to deal with. | ||
| I want revenge. | ||
| I mean, I gotta be honest. | ||
| I just don't feel like whatever Kevin McCarthy says is worth anything to me. | ||
| But I understand what you're saying, Blake, when you're like, he's certainly better than Jeffries. | ||
| You know, Marjorie Taylor Greene has pointed out he's offering a whole lot. | ||
| And I'm like, I guess if you're a Republican, that makes sense. | ||
| There are certainly things he's offered that I want, but I just don't trust them. | ||
| Never have, never will. | ||
| And at this point, I know you may not feel that way, but I'm like... I understand that most people do. | ||
| But I mean, looking at how they abandoned you, and at worst, may have actively worked against you, I'm like, dude, these people do not deserve my support. | ||
| Sorry, I ain't gonna have it. | ||
| But I do think, you know, if you're at least willing to try and... | ||
| Keep a cool head about it. | ||
| That's honorable. | ||
| Don't look at me. | ||
| I could be a hothead sometimes, so... But a lot of people... I don't agree with the revenge narrative, and I'd like to talk to Mile about that next time I see him, because I feel like that's French Revolution territory, where they were executing people by beheading for, you know, just... I'm not talking about that. | ||
| Well, that's what happens if you... I'm talking about firing a guy. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, you're fired. | ||
| Go home. | ||
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I see. | |
| Holding people up to accountability is one thing, but trying to harm them physically... You could say that firing someone is a form of harm, but I'm not talking about that kind of harm. | ||
| I'm talking about... When I say revenge, I'm saying fire him. | ||
| And if it means the Democrat might win the Speaker, I just, I don't know if that's all that much different. | ||
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Okay. | |
| In my opinion. | ||
| Then let's, let's call it righteous accountability. | ||
| How's that? | ||
| And I'm talking about rights. | ||
| Your rights. | ||
| They have rights. | ||
| They have human rights. | ||
| Revenge doesn't imply violent action. | ||
| It just implies an emotional satisfaction of some sort has come up into a perceived slight or something. | ||
| My attitude is just, these people have never represented me. | ||
| I've never been a big fan of them. | ||
| And I feel like they were actively working against the people that I cared about and thought were trying to help me. | ||
| I see a lot of candidates and they're like, we want to make your life better. | ||
| I'm like, I really liked it. | ||
| They want to make other people's life better. | ||
| I really liked it. | ||
| And then I see the GOP establishment being like, we're going to hurt them. | ||
| And I'm like, okay, I want them fired. | ||
| Just as an aside, I was listening to Mitch McConnell on a video. | ||
| Man, he sounds tired compared to a couple of years ago. | ||
| I haven't heard from him in a couple of years. | ||
| I haven't heard his voice and it's just like, it's time to retire, man. | ||
| Alright Midas says, Luke, a government will always form. | ||
| In all of history, every community has turned into a government. | ||
| It's how it is. | ||
| The key is to form the best government possible. | ||
| The founders made the first honest attempt. | ||
| Now it's time we do it again and better. | ||
| Yeah, we talked about that on the after show and we kind of went to the same kind of conclusion. | ||
| There is a kind of government, but I think the best government is decentralized government, | ||
| and I think we should be pushing for that more than ever and slowly make sure that we are more | ||
| personally responsible for ourselves and don't need government. | ||
| How big of a local police force do you think is justifiable? | ||
| Depends on the... | ||
| I mean, I... | ||
| Like a community of 100 people or 1000 people? | ||
| A lot of it depends on culture, but for me personally, none. | ||
| Well, I mean, just like how small communities will, like, police themselves. | ||
| They'll be like, alright, Luke, you're the one that has the best accuracy, so you're the sheriff. | ||
| And then, like, then it scales up to a thousand people, and we're like, well, now we need, like, nine police to take care of this, or thirteen police. | ||
| And, like, how do you keep it decentralized as the communities grow? | ||
| Local militia and courts. | ||
| But like, as communities grow, I feel like the militia grows, and like, then when it's no longer centralized, because the militia's headquarters is three miles away. | ||
| You gotta think about it in terms of, in the early days of this country, when there was a more common morality. | ||
| I'm not saying it was all good, obviously there were bad things, but if everyone in the neighborhood took action to protect their community, you wouldn't need police to a certain degree, because if someone started doing something illegal, everyone would turn and be like, we have to stop them. | ||
| Nowadays, most people are like, leave me out of it. | ||
| So then someone has to be appointed to stop them. | ||
| And even the cops are going, leave me out of it. | ||
| And they're watching violent crimes happening and be like, I don't want to get involved. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| So like... Meanwhile, the left wants to get rid of qualified immunity. | ||
| Actually, we might disagree on that, right? | ||
| But like, they want to get rid of qualified immunity, which is really going to keep police on the sidelines. | ||
| What does that mean exactly? | ||
| I mean, the cops are pretty much on the sidelines already. | ||
| But they are. | ||
| Or the good cops have already left. | ||
| Did you see what happened during Black Lives Matter? | ||
| The cops were just standing by. | ||
| Literally, they didn't do anything. | ||
| Very often they're ordered to stand down. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Or just saying, I'm not going to take the risk. | ||
| So let's look at qualified immunities that if they kill someone on the job. | ||
| They're held responsible for their actions. | ||
| The left wants people to be able to sue individual police officers in their individual capacity for anything that goes wrong. | ||
| Well, you do that, then no cop who needs to respond. | ||
| Sometimes you do need to respond to very dangerous things, right, with physical force. | ||
| And so, if everyone's thinking, I'm gonna get sued for this personally, like, who's gonna want to be a cop? | ||
| Like, it's already a really hard job. | ||
| I'm in favor of that. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I think we should have less cops and more guns. | ||
| I agree with the more guns, maybe the number of cops is fine. | ||
| I actually think we do have a disorder problem on the street, and we need more police officers, and we just need to have less tolerance for violence. | ||
| But with more police officers, they're going to only be enforcing what the Attorney General in that particular district wants them to enforce, and that's usually the wills of George Soros, going after people in your political party. | ||
| I agree that that's a disaster. | ||
| But hold on, hold on. | ||
| Here's a better example. | ||
| Illinois. | ||
| It's illegal for someone to have a gun. | ||
| If you are a law-abiding citizen, in all circumstances, and they find out that you, as a father of three, terrified for your neighborhood and your family, illicitly acquire a weapon, they're coming after you. | ||
| If you are a gang leader surrounded by a bunch of guys strapped with a whole bunch of, I mean, modified Glocks for fallout or whatever, they're gonna stay away from you. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| So what happens is the cops are like, hey, I'm not going into that neighborhood. | ||
| Those guys got heavy guns. | ||
| But this father, he wants a gun. | ||
| So the problem ends up becoming, look, if you're a cop, I totally get it. | ||
| Do you want to walk into gang territory where they're intent on killing you with high-powered weapons? | ||
| Or are you just going to arrest the low-hanging fruit? | ||
| So my attitude is like, growing up in Chicago, I actually think there's a potential for accidental discharge and things like that. | ||
| There always is. | ||
| What I saw? | ||
| All of the criminals know they can rob you. | ||
| All of the criminals know there's nothing you can do about it. | ||
| They don't care if they go to jail. | ||
| The way they talk, because I know, I grew up with some of these guys. | ||
| They say things like, I have not gone to jail yet. | ||
| They expect it to happen. | ||
| Me? | ||
| I don't want to go to jail, and I'm not going to break the law. | ||
| So when these guys walk up to you with weapons and knives and guns or whatever, they know you don't have one. | ||
| I would much rather live in a society where they see me walking down the street and they can't tell what that thing is near my waist under my jacket. | ||
| So they go, nah, not that guy, not that guy. | ||
| Because it could be the end of your life or it could be permanent injury. | ||
| But the problem with places like Chicago is they're like, dude's probably carrying a phone. | ||
| He doesn't have a gun. | ||
| Gun-free zones, right? | ||
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| Only law-abiding citizens respect gun-free zones. | ||
| They're criminals. | ||
| They don't. | ||
| I don't want to put it on the cops. | ||
| I don't think it's fair to say, officer, you stand in front of me when that guy's threatening me. | ||
| No, no, don't worry, I got it. | ||
| I got a second amendment. | ||
| If that guy wants to threaten my life, I will protect myself. | ||
| I think both are good. | ||
| An armed citizenry is good, and well-trained, supported police are good, if you don't have selective enforcement. | ||
| The selective enforcement is really bad, right? | ||
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| It's described as interco-tyranny. | ||
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| Like, we're not going to apply the law over here, but we are over here. | ||
| That's what we have now. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| But actually, you make a fair point. | ||
| I made this point before that if you go back in time to when there was a more unified cultural morality, you're driving down the street in a small town. | ||
| You get pulled over. | ||
| Sheriff's deputy gets out of the car and he goes, Blake, I told you last time not to speed. | ||
| Now I gotta see your dad down at the pub tonight, what am I gonna tell him? | ||
| When the community was closer with each other, when they saw each other at church, when they knew their neighbors, or he'd pull you over and beg license and registration, you hand him and you go, Masters! | ||
| Are you John Master's kid? | ||
| That's you. | ||
| You know, I see your dad on the weekend sometimes down at the range or whatever, and I'm going to have to tell him I pulled you over and you're going to be like, oh, geez, much more personal. | ||
| There's much more at stake. | ||
| That cop knows if I beat this kid up, his dad's going to be screaming at me. | ||
| That happened to me once in Cuyahoga Falls growing up. | ||
| I think I rolled a stop and the cop pulled me over and was like, Crossland? | ||
| Tim's son? | ||
| I was like, yeah. | ||
| He was like, get out of here. | ||
| I'm not talking about getting a freebie. | ||
| I'm just saying, like, I get pulled over by a cop and he goes, you were speeding. | ||
| And then I was, I wasn't speeding. | ||
| And I was like, I'm sorry, I wasn't speeding. | ||
| I was exiting off onto Belmont from Lakeshore Drive. | ||
| I was like, I'm 10 under the limit. | ||
| And he goes, tell it to a judge. | ||
| And he throws a ticket at me. | ||
| If we were in a smaller community and this guy knew there were repercussions for lying and giving me a false ticket, and my dad was going to show up at church and be like, what are you doing? | ||
| You're lying. | ||
| They think twice about brutality or doing wrong. | ||
| More importantly, even the criminals who come in think twice because they know they'll get ostracized. | ||
| But we've become this big detached blob where no one knows each other and no one cares. | ||
| So I guess my point is, you're right, you know, cops can be very, very good so long as they feel that there is something at risk if they go against the community. | ||
| Selective enforcement arises out of the fact that cops are like, don't know you, don't care, I'll never see you again. | ||
| And then it just becomes callous. | ||
| Alright, let's read some more. | ||
| Where we at? | ||
| Oh, Noah Sanders says, Hey guys, Phoenix Ammunition is back on Twitter. | ||
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That's cool. | |
| Glad to see it. | ||
| Oh, I like this one. | ||
| Max Reddick says, Tim, Sam Cedar made a video saying Ian is an anti-Semite. | ||
| It's time to call out Sam. | ||
| So tired of people like him. | ||
| I saw. | ||
| Did you see that? | ||
| I didn't see the video. | ||
| I watched the first like 10 seconds. | ||
| They were just laughing. | ||
| So I guess they're having a good time, which is good. | ||
| Is it because you said Kanye was going to save the Jews or something? | ||
| Save the Jews, baby. | ||
| Yeah, I've been thinking a lot about it. | ||
| It was a claim I made where I was like, if you don't believe in God, you're not Jewish. | ||
| And it's like, well, I think what happens is, because it's like there's the cultural Jews and there's the religious Jews, and there's even a conflation within Judaism that if you don't believe in God, like some religious ones think the cultural is not enough. | ||
| And I think culturally you're an Israelite. | ||
| You're from the tribe of Jacob, who's Israel. | ||
| Everyone is the Israelites. | ||
| But if you don't believe in God, then are you, did you follow the Jewish path? | ||
| If you, you know, and I want, I want to, I think you gotta talk to a rabbi. | ||
| Oh, heck yeah. | ||
| Let me read this one. | ||
| Powder PZ says, if the judge rules the 290,000 bouts, it's 298,000 bouts, broke chain of custody and are invalid, what happens with Blake's case since he lost by less than that? | ||
| That's a good question, although, again, what's the remedy? | ||
| When the judge says it's invalid, is he going to order a new election? | ||
| Somehow, I don't think he's doing that. | ||
| I think the judge is probably going to say, chain of custody was broken, that's bad, the law doesn't give me a remedy, and unless you can prove that either 17,000 in Kerry's case or 125,000 in my case were changed, not doing anything. | ||
| But does the law need to give him a remedy? | ||
| If I was the judge and someone said, these ballots have no chain of custody, I'd say, oh, then they're not valid. | ||
| Like, the law requires, actually, that they have chain of custody, and if they don't, I don't consider them ballots, so remove them. | ||
| And so the question then becomes, if the judge just says, 290,000 ballots will be removed from the total count, go through them and figure out who got what? | ||
| It would throw every race into question whose margin was less than 250,000 or whatever, which is all of them. | ||
| I think if it's Maricopa County, it would flip everything Republican. | ||
| Because these are predominantly gonna be Democrat votes. | ||
| I don't know, we talked a little bit about this earlier, I don't know if the margin in Maricopa County, Democrat to Republican, is enough with that number to change the results of your election if 290,000 were rejected, right? | ||
| Like, it was 125,000. | ||
| That means it needs to be, like, 2 to 1 Democrat to Republican, but I don't think it was that much, right? | ||
| It was closer. | ||
| We'd have to do the math. | ||
| But it'd be very interesting to see what the judge rules, right? | ||
| I mean, I just don't see it as possible. | ||
| someone came to me and said, do you think the judge is going to rule in favor of Carrie | ||
| Lake? | ||
| I would say no. | ||
| I just don't see it as possible. | ||
| If I had to make a bet, I'm not going to. | ||
| I wouldn't put a dollar on it. | ||
| I don't trust that. | ||
| You know, he's going to say what you're right. | ||
| He's going to say it was really messed up. | ||
| And sorry about that. | ||
| And we should all be outraged that there's going to be no accountability. | ||
| We talked about accountability for politicians. | ||
| What about the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors? | ||
| Your one job was to make sure that there was a smooth Election Day administration, and they failed to do it. | ||
| Did they fail to do it on purpose? | ||
| I'm willing to say, hey, for purposes of this discussion, assume that they're just incompetent. | ||
| Usually when you're that incompetent, you get fired. | ||
| Let's remove the politics from everything, and I'll tell you where the problem is right now. | ||
| A witness testified they did not receive chain of custody documents and were told that they don't exist. | ||
| Immediately, there needs to be an investigation because it's a matter of law. | ||
| Will the judge make a criminal referral for an investigation to find these chain-of-custody documents? | ||
| I think the answer is no. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| That has nothing to do with overturning the election. | ||
| I'm just saying, outright, as a matter of criminal law, we need to know if the chain-of-custody documents exist. | ||
| They were requested by one of the parties in the election. | ||
| We're told they don't exist. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| Then there's the problem of, if the documents don't exist, and there is a criminal referral, and someone is criminally charged for not following the law, how could those votes then count? | ||
| Because you certainly couldn't come out and say, now hold on there a minute! | ||
| We understand that the law was broken, and we have no evidence that these ballots were legitimately cast, but we're gonna count them anyway! | ||
| Then the cost of winning election is just for the individual who wants to go to prison. | ||
| That means if they don't solve this in any future election, an individual can be like, I'm willing to go to prison if it means half a million votes go to my candidate. | ||
| That's already the structure of the law in so many other cases in Arizona, like ballot harvesting in Arizona. | ||
| It's illegal, right? | ||
| I'm not allowed to go to a nursing home or assisted living facility and collect ballots and turn them in. | ||
| That would be illegal. | ||
| But if someone did that, even if they got caught and prosecuted, the ballots that they | ||
| illegally harvested count. | ||
| I mean, even if you could identify them, there are legal votes as soon as they get into the | ||
| post office, which is really crazy. | ||
| You think that an illegally harvested ballot, as soon as if you could identify it wouldn't | ||
| count. | ||
| No, in Arizona law, it counts. | ||
| You can just publicize this is a corruption, penalize the person who did it. | ||
| The founding fathers that did not intend for this to be the system of gamesmanship. | ||
| Whoever can manipulate the numbers to the best wins. | ||
| No, it was of, for, and by the people. | ||
| If we know definitively the will of the people is not being followed through, then we have an obligation as the people to remedy that. | ||
| But to come out and be like, well, the law says there's nothing we can do. | ||
| It's like, you expect a government of, for, and by the people to just be not of, for, and by the people because of a statutory claim? | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Alright, we'll grab some more here. | ||
| Brody Nevis says, love the show guys, bring on the Tate brothers! | ||
| Also, Andrew is 36. | ||
| I was watching a video from him, and he was talking about... Dude, I think... I haven't watched a lot of Andrew Tate stuff. | ||
| I've known of him for a while, and I watched a couple videos, but the couple videos I've seen, I really like. | ||
| He had one where he's telling people to like sign up to his program, become a member, it costs money and all that. | ||
| And that, I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we get it. | ||
| But the whole video is actually really good. | ||
| He's like, you're sitting there, a loser, eating, getting fat, playing video games when you could be winning. | ||
| You could be changing your life. | ||
| You could be improving. | ||
| And then he says something like, the rocket ship going to the moon doesn't stop halfway and chill for a little bit. | ||
| It keeps going and it's hard. | ||
| And that means you got to start working hard now and not stop. | ||
| You can't give up. | ||
| And I'm like, Oh, yeah, he's right. | ||
| Yeah, but in space, the inertia will take you there. | ||
| You don't have to keep your thrusters on the whole time. | ||
| OK, but you get the point. | ||
| Oh, we're totally going to debate. | ||
| Bring him on. | ||
| Come on, Andrew. | ||
| No, I think it was great. | ||
| Like I mentioned when he had a video where he says happiness is irrelevant. | ||
| You have to. | ||
| If you're happy or sad, you wake up, you do the exact same thing. | ||
| You work hard. | ||
| And I'm like, that dude, he's completely right. | ||
| That's that's motivation. | ||
| Yeah, we should go to Dubai and interview them. | ||
| Like he's like a world famous. | ||
| I think he's a kickboxer. | ||
| Press one if you want us to do that. | ||
| I guess we have this next week. | ||
| I kind of want to spend time with family, but January 3rd. | ||
| Nah, it would take like a whole day to travel there. | ||
| Yeah, we do it over the weekend. | ||
| And then do a week in Dubai? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| We could set it up in Dubai, that'd be awesome. | ||
| You know why I wouldn't want to do it is because the speech laws they have are not, in my opinion, conducive to a show like this. | ||
| Yeah, but it's the same like Bali. | ||
| You know, Indonesia has their own laws, but Bali has respect for tourists. | ||
| If there's a will, there's a way. | ||
| Perhaps, perhaps. | ||
| Everyone's pressing 1 in the chat. | ||
| But I think he also goes to Europe, too. | ||
| Romania. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Aw, dude, I love Romania. | ||
| So let's go to Romania. | ||
| I mean, I would... I was there before, too. | ||
| It's a pretty awesome country. | ||
| They have an awesome fast food pizza joint. | ||
| I thought Romania was awesome when I went there. | ||
| I enjoyed it. | ||
| What are the two big cities there? | ||
| It's like Bucharest. | ||
| Bucharest. | ||
| And what's the other one? | ||
| I forgot. | ||
| Brasov. | ||
| Brasov? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I loved it. | ||
| I thought it was so fantastic. | ||
| Great place, by the way. | ||
| Or we could be like, let's meet in the middle, let's go to Poland. | ||
| I mean, that'd be cool, too. | ||
| Or Budapest. | ||
| I'd love to check that one out. | ||
| Damien Simmons says, Luke, today I found out about gold-backed currency that is state-based. | ||
| New Hampshire, etc. | ||
| For example, what is your input on cryptocurrency backed by gold and silver or a state-backed crypto? | ||
| You know, my sentiment? | ||
| Always be skeptical. | ||
| But when it comes to this economy, I think it's best to diversify as much as you can and not put anything in one particular basket. | ||
| We don't know what's happening right now. | ||
| It's an absolutely crazy market. | ||
| Don't trust anyone and just try to have your money all over the place because you never know what's going to happen. | ||
| Collision to gov says go watch the EPA's new diesel engine regulatory announcement. | ||
| The emission requirement essentially bans them and will force you to buy the Chinese electric truck that doesn't work. | ||
| Probably. | ||
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| All right, what do we got? | ||
| Martin Edgar says, I saw a show that stated there was a noticeable polar shift. | ||
| Then the shift changed in the opposite direction. | ||
| The culprit was identified as the massive construction in China is causing the Earth to be unbalanced. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
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| I don't know. | ||
| There are pole shifts. | ||
| You can watch the way the Earth's spinning. | ||
| It's kind of like a, it's not spinning completely even. | ||
| So it's like wobbling and sometimes you'll see the pole moving in like a spiral. | ||
| I have no idea though to answer that question. | ||
| Crypt DJ says, where are your shirts made, Luke? | ||
| Um, I believe South America? | ||
| I don't know, I gotta double check. | ||
| Do you use Spring? | ||
| I use a number of different companies. | ||
| So I have like three to four companies that I use right now. | ||
| We're looking to, we used to work with a local shop in the United States, but they're no longer active. | ||
| But if you have an active t-shirt store that you're printing shirts in the United States from the United States, the shirts are actually made in South America. | ||
| I think it was either Ecuador, I think. | ||
| I forgot exactly which country. | ||
| But if you have a store here, hit me up. | ||
| I would love to work with an American business. | ||
| I did before. | ||
| I want to do it again. | ||
| I will say it's hard. | ||
| It's very hard. | ||
| We had to make cheap political t-shirts, right? | ||
| So I insisted on made in America blanks, right? | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Really hard. | ||
| You find a shade of olive green that you like, good luck finding that shirt. | ||
| Like 30 bucks. | ||
| 30 bucks if you can get it, or it might take six months to get a US-made bling. | ||
| Meanwhile, the stuff in Honduras, the stuff in El Salvador, it's just... that's... you can't even make... Meanwhile, my wife... I gotta open a t-shirt factory. | ||
| My wife does vintage shopping for our kids, eight-year-olds and six-year-olds, and so when you get on eBay and you get a shirt made in the 80s or 90s, invariably made in the USA. | ||
| Made in the USA. | ||
| We've just outsourced this. | ||
| If you want to buy American Yeah, I think we should give the people the option to buy either American or from South America. | ||
| So if you have an American t-shirt business, email me info at wearechange.org and I want to do that again. | ||
| South America is pretty awesome too. | ||
| I love South America. | ||
| Alright everybody, if you have not already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, become a member at TimCast.com, and this is it. | ||
| The finale, the sign-off for 2022. | ||
| I'll tell you what our plan is. | ||
| We're going to spend time with family. | ||
| We're going to enjoy it. | ||
| We're gonna relax for a little bit and just cool off after Christmas and then I'm gonna go up to New York City because we have big Times Square billboards up right now for New Year's and we are going to the official New Year's party. | ||
| Where supposedly all of the big shots in New York are going to be. | ||
| Because we're invited. | ||
| And I'm going to really, really enjoy that. | ||
| I wonder how that will turn out. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| It'll be fun because Luke will be there too. | ||
| I'm great at events. | ||
| I tell a lot of jokes. | ||
| This time Luke's not sneaking in, he's being invited in to the den of Capital City. | ||
| That's rare. | ||
| I usually get kicked out. | ||
| I call it uncommon at this point. | ||
| No wonder rare. | ||
| It's getting more common. | ||
| So, uh, you know, the rumor is the official New Year's Eve party's gonna have a lot of, uh, big shots. | ||
| Democrat players and things like that. | ||
| And we're going as cordially invited guests to enjoy the buffet and watch the festivities. | ||
| And, uh, I imagine that we will be calm and collected individuals, but we'll see how that goes, so, uh... | ||
| I just want to say thank you all so much for your support in these past few years, and this year especially, allowing us to have that cultural dominance, at least to the degree we do, by doing things like in Times Square, and becoming a member helps us continually do more. | ||
| The next big project is we're launching a coffee shop. | ||
| The building has already been purchased. | ||
| We are now beginning the process of designing and planning out the coffee shop and the hangout. | ||
| It's in West Virginia. | ||
| First floor is going to be cafe. | ||
| Second floor is going to be games and hangout. | ||
| Third floor is going to be a podcast studio where we can do Friday night special events and members can hang out on the first floor as we do the show. | ||
| And then hopefully within the next year we have four to ten new locations and we can keep opening up these cultural spaces where people can hang out, meet each other, share ideas, and we can build that movement. | ||
| So thank you all so much. | ||
| You can follow the show at TimCastIRL. | ||
| You can follow me personally at TimCast. | ||
| Blake, do you want to shout anything out? | ||
| Thanks for having me. | ||
| You guys are great and I really appreciate it. | ||
| You've got to come to Arizona more. | ||
| Maybe we'll do a joint one with me and Kerry. | ||
| Well, you know, if Turning Point USA is willing to have us, this space they built for us is incredible, and considering the amount of space they do have, You know, if there's ever another opportunity where they can get us a temporary setup, we could definitely come down and do other things like that. | ||
| We were planning on doing stuff like that, going to Miami. | ||
| We did go to Austin, we have the mobile trailer and everything. | ||
| But it's like, you gotta find a place where you can hook up, get internet and do all that stuff. | ||
| Fortunately for us with Arizona, Charlie said we could build you a studio and get your logo on the screen. | ||
| We definitely have to travel more. | ||
| Where can people find you on Twitter? | ||
| At BG Masters. | ||
| Blake, thank you so much for coming on. | ||
| That was great. | ||
| Thank you for giving us your perspective. | ||
| My website is lukeuncensor.com, which is getting the business from PayPal, | ||
| as PayPal just announced that they're going to be unsubscribing everyone from my members area. | ||
| Of course, we had an alternative a couple months ago set up. | ||
| Tell Peter Thiel, be like, Thiel, what are you doing? | ||
| I'm just joking. | ||
| He's no longer at PayPal, but they're unsubscribing everyone. | ||
| We set up an alternative months ago, but there's still some members being signed up there. | ||
| They're going to be forcefully cut off. | ||
| So if you're on PayPal and you're signed up to LukeUncensored.com, go to that website, get off PayPal, sign up on our alternative. | ||
| We have a third alternative that we're working on right now. | ||
| LukeUncensored.com and right before Christmas. | ||
| Thank you, PayPal. | ||
| Really appreciate it. | ||
| Still, the majority of my members were on there. | ||
| So yeah, that sucks. | ||
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| Thanks for coming, bro. | ||
| That was hot. | ||
| This is fun. | ||
| Good to see you, man. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| You guys, when you go see your family, I hope you have a chance to do this this holiday. | ||
| Spend some time listening to what they have to say. | ||
| Really just listen. | ||
| And remember, if you disagree, if you start to get flushed, if you want to talk politics, whatever, that you're blessed just to be able to have the conversation and be there for them. | ||
| You know, people are people are waking up all over Earth. | ||
| And I want to remind you about this lovable, wonderful Mr. Bocas. | ||
| Keep Bucko in your thoughts. | ||
| I'm looking forward to seeing Bucko. | ||
| I'll see him on the 2nd of January. | ||
| I've been looking to get him stem cells, a stem cell treatment for his kidneys, which were underdeveloped. | ||
| But the congenital kidney issues, they say that stem cells are more for like chronic kidney issues and things. | ||
| So I don't know if it's going to work. | ||
| Well, he does have chronic kidney disease. | ||
| OK, so there might be a chance. | ||
| A path forward here and I would love to pioneer some new regenerative medicine and then publicize and popularize the technology and save millions of more cats and dogs and people across earth and beyond. | ||
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