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Timcast IRL - Kari Lake Election Witness Says Ballots ARE MISSING w/Kyle Rittenhouse
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tim pool
you So, we're live at Turning Point USA.
This time, we're actually in the studio that they built for us.
It's really cool.
Look behind us.
I don't know, can you do a wide shot real quick?
There's a gigantic Timcast IRL.
Feels so amazing!
Welcome to the show here.
We got everybody hanging out.
Uh, man, today was crazy.
I was, I was glued to the Kerry Lake trial.
Shane Cashman, who's here, was actually there at the trial all day.
Actually, several hours before the trial.
Look at this.
Ian's playing.
ian crossland
I'm so stressed.
luke rudkowski
Rookie mistakes, Ian.
Rookie mistakes.
tim pool
So this is crazy.
The big news, I think, there's a bunch of witness testimony and one of the key takeaways was when an expert witness testified that there were duplicate ballots and no originals.
They didn't know where the originals were.
He said that when he was sampling the ballots as per the court order, he found that they were duplicates.
One, that these were 19-inch ballot images but placed on a 20-inch paper so they weren't being read properly.
The whole thing sounds crazy.
And then another witness testified that there was no chain of custody.
And I think, what was it, 298,000 ballots?
Was that what it was?
Yeah.
And so then they reported 275 plus.
Right.
Then there's no chain of custody.
Then they report 298.
Yeah.
So we need to see what that ultimately leads to.
The court is going to, the trial is going to continue tomorrow.
But I'm sitting here like, The argument from the defense is, sure, that may be, but is there any intent to have, you know, broken chain of custody?
And that's the argument they're making.
We'll get into all that stuff.
We've got a bunch of other stories.
The FBI has responded to the Twitter leaks saying it's a conspiracy theory, which is hilarious because, like, we actually have their emails.
Zelensky met with Biden and he gave him an award, I guess.
Then we have, this is surprising, Kevin McCarthy is coming out in opposition to the 1.7 trillion, was it trillion, right?
1.7 trillion?
Omnibus.
Seems like Marjorie Taylor Greene is getting to him and he knows that he's got to actually start taking a stand.
So we're going to get into all that.
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It's gonna be, I think it'll be pretty awesome because we do have a lot of stuff that we want to talk about considering our guest tonight.
So smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share this show with your friends, and joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Mr. Kyle Rittenhouse.
kyle rittenhouse
Tim, thank you for having me on.
My first time, I know we've tried before, but...
I forgot you have to speak to the mic.
tim pool
That's right.
That's right.
ian crossland
Bring it around with you.
kyle rittenhouse
Thank you for having me, Tim.
We met actually here a couple days ago here at AmericaFest.
We met backstage and I thought that was pretty cool.
And thank you for having me on.
tim pool
Yeah.
So how do you describe yourself?
I mean, a lot of everybody knows your story.
Everyone.
But how do you describe yourself?
How would you introduce yourself?
kyle rittenhouse
Kyle Rittenhouse.
tim pool
The name says it all.
luke rudkowski
Just make it like Madonna.
Just be like, Rittenhouse.
tim pool
Well, I guess, I guess, you know, it's, it's, it's, what are you working on these days?
kyle rittenhouse
You know, I want to get more involved in journalism.
I'm still learning a lot.
I, like, honestly have no idea what I'm doing.
I'm still figuring it out.
I'm still trying to articulate how to talk about some of these topics, figure out by watching you guys, watching Rogan, watching other people, how they do it.
Just trying to build my name, build my platform and become like an activist in a way for the first amendment, the second amendment and censorship.
unidentified
Right on.
tim pool
You started a YouTube channel, too, right?
kyle rittenhouse
I did.
I haven't posted any content yet.
I'm still figuring out, like, how to make a studio and how to film stuff and, like, maybe do, like, a podcast-style type deal.
tim pool
One of the stories that we actually have that I think we'll be interested to talk about is this tech entrepreneur in Austin who thought someone broke into his house, so he started sweeping his own perimeter with his AR, and the cops roll up, scream, drop the gun, within a split second just open fire on him, killing him.
So this is a story that I saw.
I really want to talk about considering, you know, I'm very pro-two-way, but more importantly, because of all the swattings, I watched that video and I was like, that's what they want to happen to us.
We should definitely talk about that.
So Kyle, thanks for hanging out.
And we have joining us is Shane Cashman, who was actually at Carrie Lake's trial all day.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
shane cashman
I'm so, I'm stoked to be here with you, Kyle, and I support the journalism.
That's awesome.
I'm looking forward to seeing journalism from you, man.
But yeah, I was at Carrie Lake's trial.
I got there so early that they thought I was homeless.
Like, I had my big coat on.
I'm just sitting outside.
It was like four in the morning.
I'm like, what is this guy doing here?
I'm like, is it Kerry Lake thing here today?
But thankfully it was, and it was, it was incredible.
It was a long day.
tim pool
Who were they?
Well, you know what?
I'm gonna save it.
We'll get into it.
We're talking about the trial.
And then we got, uh, we got, of course, Luke Rukowski's here.
luke rudkowski
Hey guys, Luke Rudowsky here of We Are Change.org.
Very simple message today.
Trust the government.
Back the blue.
Just take the medical procedure.
Get on the train.
Life's going to be so much easier when you do.
And that's why I made my shirt today that says, we're the good guys.
Trust us.
If you want to fit in with your normie buddies and friends, this is the perfect shirt to do it, which you could get on thebestpoliticalshirts.com because you guys do.
That's why I'm here.
tim pool
We got Ian, of course.
ian crossland
Yeah, the rumors are true.
I fell off the stage at AmericaFest at the end of the show.
I was like, keep it real!
And then I turned and walked off.
I, you know, the biggest problem was I didn't inspect the stage before we did the show.
And if you're ever going to do stage work, you really got to take safety first.
Make sure you know your surroundings.
You know, if there's cables on the ground, where the pits at, all that stuff.
Fortunately, I landed on my feet, did a little roll, pulled my back a little bit, but I was stretching for the last couple of days.
I feel great.
shane cashman
I love what you said later that night.
You were like, I'm really good at falling.
ian crossland
Yeah, I'm an ex-positive turd.
There are some things I'm very good at.
luke rudkowski
Falling down is one of them.
If it wasn't on video, it would have been viral.
unidentified
I know.
luke rudkowski
That's what I'm saying.
I was there right next to you.
ian crossland
People tell me they'll pay money for it.
tim pool
So if you got the video... I mean, they may have been filming with the other cameras or whatever.
You know what I want to say before we jump into this?
With Luke mentioning his shirt, you got Biden yelling, he says, we're the good guys.
Here's what I recommend.
I recommend you buy the shirt from Luke's BestPoliticalShirts.com, right?
luke rudkowski
The BestPoliticalShirts.com.
tim pool
And then when you go to Christmas, if you get it, ship it overnight.
Talk to your family and friends like, hello friend, I am also in agreement with you.
We are the good guys.
And just like look past them, don't look at them and like move very like methodically and robotically.
luke rudkowski
Just like an NPC.
tim pool
Exactly.
And be like, hello, yes, Biden is good.
unidentified
Alright, let's jump into the first story.
tim pool
We have this from 12news.com.
Lake's expert witness.
Misprinted ballots would ultimately have been counted.
Lake's team alleged that a ballot-sizing misprint disrupted the election, but Lake hired analyst Clay Parikh says the ballots would have been counted in the end.
I'm going to pause right there and say, That is a gross mischaracterization of what the witness actually said.
Do you agree, Shane?
shane cashman
I agree.
It's just like how they said she lost the lawsuit by having eight things dismissed but two going forward.
tim pool
Let me read a little bit of this and then we'll explain.
They say, Carrie Lake has two days to convince the Maricopa County Superior Court that her election loss was caused by outside interference.
On the first day of the trial, an information security officer hired by Lake's team said that misprinted ballots would have been duplicated and counted.
No, he didn't.
He did not say that.
Lake needs to prove that a specific Maricopa County employee interfered with ballot printers and that lost enough votes to cost her the election.
She also needs to prove that alleged ballot drop-offs cost her the elections.
Lake's legal team originally planned to call Katie Hobbs a witness.
Lake even boasted that Katie Hobbs will take the witness stand.
Alright, let me just break down for you what he actually said.
He said that he inspected ballots.
They were allowed to inspect, I think it was like 50 ballot demands, mail-in ballots, and standard ballots or whatever, and that he looked at 15, 14 of which were, what was it, 14 duplicates?
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
And that the 15th was torn.
Right.
Alright, so then they said, I think these duplicates, were these the ones that were 19-inch on 20-inch paper?
shane cashman
I think he said most of them were 19-inch on 20-inch paper.
tim pool
So that's a separate issue, but here's ultimately what I want to bring up with this, so we can start getting into it.
He said, the only way that the image could have been altered... I gotta slow down, because this is how they get... It's intricate.
Right.
So, you got a 20-inch image that fits on a sheet of paper.
For some reason, these ballots were printed at 19 inches, but on the same size paper, a 20-inch piece of paper.
Meaning, when the ballot printer was trying to read it, nothing was in the right place.
It doesn't read it, it rejects it.
What happens then is people place them in box number three and then when they're trying to count them they duplicate that ballot.
What he actually said was the originals were missing.
That a duplicate existed with no original to account for it.
Then, Katie Hobbs' lawyer, it was Maricopa County, not Katie Hobbs, Maricopa County's lawyer comes up and says, if a ballot is duplicated, does it get counted?
And he goes, that wouldn't be possible.
And he's like, I'm asking you, would it be counted?
And he's like, that's not technically possible.
What the witness was saying is the only way this error could have occurred It was not an error.
The only way this misprint could have occurred is if someone bypassed security and intentionally went in and altered the printing mechanism.
Therefore, in this instance, it's not possible for you to actually have that duplicate ballot made and then counted.
So now, you get the media coming out and saying, well, you know, Carrie Lake is saying that it would have been counted and there's no issue here.
My bet?
The judge is going to come back out using this narrative that they're creating and say, there's no evidence of anything and you know, sorry, there's no intent.
Therefore, case dismissed.
shane cashman
The defense sets up a soundbite that sounds good in the news.
The news runs with it.
All the nuance is lost.
And like, cause there's a ton of nuance leading up to all that.
And they set up a witness to say, uh, I think it was our first witness that said it's impossible for it to, we didn't have any 19 inch ballots in this election, not at all.
And then they, they obviously teed it up for that, you know, bombshell I thought.
tim pool
He basically said, the only way for there to be a 19-inch ballot image on a 20-inch piece of paper is if someone either manipulated the printers themselves, bypassing security, or manipulated the software, entering passwords or bypassing security.
So it could not have been an accident.
What was really frustrating to me about watching this trial is that the Maricopa County lawyers and Katie Hobbs team or whatever, they're doing these questions where they're like, so Luke, when did you stop beating your wife?
It's a simple question.
Did you stop beating your wife yesterday?
Yes or no?
And you're like, how do I answer that?
And then the judge goes, look, it's a yes or no question.
Answer it.
If you don't understand, say I don't understand.
And then they're forcing the witnesses to claim they don't understand because otherwise it's a question that draws a conclusion.
shane cashman
I saw it as them asking them to prove the existence of God in front of everybody because it wasn't simple.
It was a lot of nuance and things going on.
Like you were saying, it's so intricate how all these things were happening and you can't just say yes or no.
And it also proves Just how convoluted the chain of custody really is.
You know, they're very, like, reluctance to say yes or no proves that to me at least.
tim pool
What really frustrates me is that they didn't do witness training, Kerry Lake's team.
You have the witness and you explain to them, the opposing lawyers are going to try to trick you.
I mean, Kyle, you know all about this.
kyle rittenhouse
Absolutely, they're gonna try to get you to go down this rabbit hole and they're gonna phrase things in a way that, yes or no, either way you answer it, it's going to sound bad no matter what.
And that's what they do, that's why it's important for them to ask, hey, can you please rephrase that question in another way that I can understand it?
It doesn't sound that, it sounds a lot better if you ask them to rephrase it.
tim pool
But that's the crazy thing, I mean, I feel like the judge should be yelling at these lawyers.
Like, you go up and you say something like, did you stop beating your wife yesterday or the day before?
Pick one, which one is it?
You're like, what?
I don't beat my wife.
That's not responsive, that's not what I asked you.
That's crazy.
shane cashman
The judge was getting impatient.
I mean, there was a certain point where it was Hobbes' attorney standing up constantly objecting on grounds of foundation and speculation.
And then they were like, it's all speculation.
This is what we're here for, literally.
ian crossland
Is that not considered leading the witness when you ask him a question with two pointed answers that neither of which are accurate?
shane cashman
I think that's a little different when you're like I don't really know but I think it's when you're questioning expecting a certain thing like you're leading down a path and speculation is more just like the theory behind it.
I could be wrong but like that's because they did get called out earlier for leading the witness at one point but the speculation was just like because it was based on theory I guess.
tim pool
There's a lot more as well Shane correct me if I'm wrong but they had a witness testify that 298,000 ballots had no chain of custody.
shane cashman
I think that's what they said.
Yeah.
Between like the drop-offs and I guess Red Bank.
unidentified
Run-back.
shane cashman
Run-back, right.
Which I tried to get into yesterday.
They refused.
tim pool
You tried to go there?
shane cashman
I was there.
I stood outside.
I was trying.
I watched the sunrise over that place.
unidentified
Wow.
shane cashman
It's like a walled off city right by the airport.
It's a weird place.
tim pool
So this witness testifies.
That runback employees were bragging about the perk of being able to bring ballots into their job, outside of chain of custody, and have them be counted.
And the craziest thing is not only that, but that there was, there's supposed to be a chain of custody receipt every step of the way, and there's one, there's like three chain of custody receipts, and there's one missing.
And they don't know where these ballots came from or what happened.
Basically, they go from the polling look from the voting center.
Then there's no receipt.
Then they leave the voting center.
And they pointed out that, I think it was Richard who tweeted out more than 275,000 ballots came in.
Plus, yeah.
And then later said it was 298,000, so she said, obviously it's a round number, so it's not the exact number, but then with no chain of custody, he's basically said one number and then added an additional 20-some-odd, 22,000, 23,000 ballots, but without a receipt we can't track where those ballots came from.
The craziest thing is, in the trial they're basically like, yes, We understand.
But can you prove anyone intended to break the law?
shane cashman
Right, and Maricopa, I think it was the Maricopa, it was Lindy, who's tried being like,
so just so we make sure this is clear, you know, it's not illegal for the ballot harvesting to get
in to this. And she came back with a pretty great response.
She's like, it's not unlawful, it's invalid. She's like, that's the proper terminology.
tim pool
That was, that was, I was, so we're, you know, we're all hanging out and I've got the live
stream going while we're trying to eat dinner.
And the, the, the, it was the Maricopa lawyer, I believe.
shane cashman
Lindy.
Yeah.
tim pool
Lindy.
He comes out and he's like, would it surprise you to learn that if someone brings a, if someone brings in a ballot illegally, the ballot itself is not illegal.
Like I'm paraphrasing, but he basically said, if you enter in a vote into the system in less than legal means, You may have committed a crime, but the ballot itself can still be counted.
Or it's not illegal, and then she goes, I believe that's called an invalid ballot.
shane cashman
She was really good.
tim pool
This is crazy, man.
shane cashman
I was really impressed with that.
luke rudkowski
The corporate media's take on this is pretty interesting, because I just typed in Carrie Lake into the news that's happening on Brave, and the first two articles that are popping up, Talking Points Memo is number one, and it says, Carrie Lake Big Lie Circus Comes to Court.
The second article is by Newsweek on MSN, saying, Carrie Lake Election Trial Married with Embarrassing Mishaps.
So obviously, I mean, this court proceeding is still going on.
There's going to be another court date tomorrow.
Robert Barnes has a different perspective on this.
He just tweeted a couple of minutes ago, Carrie Lake proved everything she needed to today to win her election contest.
That's what Barnes is saying.
What's going to be the decision here?
It's going to be interesting because I think in 1994, there was a state Senate election that was overturned by a judge.
after there was illegal ballot harvesting that was ruled by him,
specifically in the state election there.
So I don't know what's going to happen here, but this is a very interesting court trial that I think a
lot of people have different perspectives on depending on where they're coming
from politically.
tim pool
Am I pessimistic to say I think the judge is going to throw it out?
ian crossland
Yeah.
unidentified
That's a form of pessimism.
tim pool
You're right!
shane cashman
It's a blackmail.
I do have hope.
I think Barnes is on to something.
I was impressed by, not impressed, disgusted.
Impressed and disgusted by the lack of security the one witness was saying the ballots were kept in.
tim pool
I was losing it because the first witness, this guy, Clay, he said the ballots were not properly sealed.
They had no security seal on the boxes, just a piece of red tape.
And then the defense witness, so this is basically Katie Hobbs in Maricopa County, goes, was the box sealed?
And he goes, there was no security seal on it. He goes, yes or no question, was the box sealed?
And he was like, it was a piece of red tape. Yes or no, it was a box sealed. And he's like,
I don't understand. It's like, dude, this really frustrated me. Clay, the answer is no,
the box is not sealed. They're playing a semantic game.
They're arguing the colloquial definition in a legal context.
Don't take the bait.
If you come to me and say, they could have wrapped that box with saran wrap.
Was the box sealed?
No.
But wasn't it surrounded with saran wrap?
Well, that's not a legal seal.
So no, it wasn't sealed.
They're trying to trick you because, to the average person, taping something shut is sealing it shut.
That's the manipulation they kept doing.
It's so frustrating to watch.
shane cashman
They're going to show just those three seconds on the local news, and then that's what your parents are going to believe, and that's it.
tim pool
And what they do is, they're going to show that clip, then they're going to give false context, saying, despite acknowledging the boxes were sealed, you know, Carey Lake's witness refused to acknowledge to the court that it was sealed.
They cut out the part where he said, they have tamper-evident seals that they put on boxes that you can't remove without evidence of tampering.
They did not have that.
shane cashman
They were also like the defense team was just I don't want to say they were scrambling but it was obviously they had a different strategy like it was like we're gonna be forceful and trying to discredit these people as quick as possible right where there's like they're set up with nuance clearly with the plaintiffs and then they just get you know like a hatchet to the head after that and I'm like It was, they were so condescending, this might be just too personal, but I couldn't sit next to these people, I was sitting next to the defense team most of the time, and they're just laughing, like at all these different times, like the attorney would talk, like they just, it was like a very condescending thing, I'm like, let's have a little decorum here for people, you know, like, it's like when someone mispronounces a word and someone laughs at it.
Like there's no point to that to me.
It's like you're just like just being rude for the sake of being rude.
And they also have like just a giant team.
It's like it's like when you look at a pop song and there's like 30 people wrote it and you look at the other like a rock song there's like two people who wrote it.
That's what I felt like I was up against in this small courtroom.
ian crossland
In order to bring the truth or at least transparency on this do you just find it was it was on video was this was this court case on video?
tim pool
I'm watching live.
ian crossland
You find like specific little clips cut them out put them on Twitter make them go viral that Is that the way to move forward?
shane cashman
Maybe.
tim pool
I just want to stress, okay, I don't want to talk about you, Oliver Darcy, but we're going to talk about you.
He tweeted out, and there was another journalist who did, he was like, Donny O'Sullivan of CNN may have had his suspension lifted, but he can't come back on Twitter unless he deletes the tweet.
And it's just everybody's, everybody, you know, in the anti-establishment, anti-woke, was like, yo, did the lead media reporter for CNN just learn right now how getting banned, getting suspended on Twitter works?
Another journalist tweeted this today saying, Daniel Sullivan remains locked out.
They're telling him he must delete a tweet.
And I'm like, is this how it's been for like a decade?
And they don't know this?
So the challenge is, you've got a combination of ineptitude and willful manipulation from the corporate press.
We're on stage at AmericaFest with TPUSA, and Charlie Kirk goes, we just got breaking news, Carrie Lake's election challenge is going to trial.
The whole crowd goes, wow!
They're all screaming and cheering.
Then I'm like, I gotta pull this up.
I pull up the story from the local Fox outlet.
It says judge dismisses most of Carrie Lake's lawsuit.
And I'm like, what?
But she's going to trial.
Why isn't that the headline?
That's huge that they got passed a motion to dismiss.
Again, I'm just going to say I'm pessimistic.
The way I'm hearing this judge, you know, he's like, It does seem like he's getting frustrated with the defense attorneys as well, but I'm just kind of like, I think this dude is acting like, you know, I'm giving him a fair chance, and then he's gonna come back and say, well, you didn't prove there was any intent, therefore, you're gone.
shane cashman
That's how I feel.
He's offering leniency in places where I didn't think he'd give leniency.
Like, the plaintiffs aren't perfect.
Like, they've definitely screwed up a few things here and there, and a little forgetful.
That one guy is like Big Lebowski in a suit.
I enjoy watching him.
He just has funny phrases.
I like him.
I don't think either side is fully prepared just because they had such a short notice.
There's a lot of scrambling and discombobulation behind the scenes.
You can probably see a lot of it on the live stream as well.
tim pool
They couldn't upload the voicemail recording, so the judge was like, we're not going to play it.
It's like, how are we supposed to get you this file in a day?
shane cashman
That's a mess.
ian crossland
I think people stay positive and optimistic about it because that'll generate the you know the energy needed to continue to post Clips about it and to spread them around You know it's funny though.
shane cashman
I talked to a lot of since I was there so early I was talking just like people who work there who literally aren't engaged in politics at all and just asking what they thought and they're most of them are so disengaged from it altogether they just I don't want to say they've given up, they just don't care.
And it's like in their very workplace, you know?
It's like, ah, whatever.
tim pool
That's crazy.
And I'm also, a lot of these judges, so many, are just so far removed from everything, and to an extent they're supposed to be.
The judge is supposed to be like, okay, present to me the facts, and then we'll go through it.
But what I think we end up seeing with so many judges, and not just this case, but basically across the board with everything, is They're thinking to themselves, look, I don't know anything about this stuff.
I don't want to be involved in this stuff.
This case is so political.
Everyone's going to get mad at me.
I'm just going to tell them no and get out of my courtroom.
And so they end up just saying, get out, get out.
Don't care.
Don't want to deal with it.
shane cashman
Yeah.
That's a weak judge then.
tim pool
And that's too many of them.
Yeah.
Based on what I've heard already in this testimony, I will say a few things.
A witness saying there is no chain of custody is not definitive proof there is no chain of custody.
It is a statement of fact sworn under oath and now there must be, the courts must seek to confirm, was chain of custody broken?
That is an illegal action.
If the person tasked with maintaining chain of custody willfully did not do that, Then you've got intent.
And what they're arguing, though, is what people have called it is nonfeasance as opposed to malfeasance.
If I was a judge, I'd be like, get out of my face.
If you were a barista at my coffee shop and you walk in wearing your uniform and I say, you're going to stand here at the register.
When that person hands you a $10 bill, you will punch in their order, put the money in the register, give them their change, and they go, you got it.
Then the person walks up, and they go, I'm not doing that.
That is an intentional act to defy.
So if you have a election official, and they are legally told, you're gonna be here.
Okay, I'm standing here.
Okay, now you're gonna count the ballots.
Okay, I'm gonna count the ballots.
You're gonna fill out this form.
Okay, I'm gonna fill out the form.
Okay, now do it.
No.
They intentionally chose to break the law.
Based on that, will the judge agree?
I don't know.
So in my opinion, I don't know exactly how you rectify this, because if you've got a witness saying, chain of custody was broken on nearly 300,000 ballots, that of course goes over the margin of victory, which is 17,000, and then you had the last witness.
They tried getting him.
They said, do you have evidence that, you know, the vote would have, if these errors, if the tabulators didn't break, the election outcome would be different.
Dude actually said, the margin of victory was 17,000 votes.
I am convinced that if the machine's working properly, Kerry Lake would be governor.
shane cashman
They didn't like that.
tim pool
No, they didn't.
luke rudkowski
Kyle, are you getting any flashbacks to your court proceedings?
kyle rittenhouse
You know, I mean, you look at this and then you look at how these people like...
unidentified
You just grab the mic and carry it around with you.
luke rudkowski
Might as well hold it up.
shane cashman
Yeah, that's a good look.
kyle rittenhouse
You look back and then you look how they tried to get them to go down these rabbit holes
and then they ask them these, like, I'm going to say it, leading questions.
I think they are leading questions because...
shane cashman
They know where they're going to get you.
kyle rittenhouse
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they don't have any, they aren't preparing them and they freak out.
They freeze.
They're like, how am I going to answer this?
What if I say this?
What if I say no, they are not putting, they are not sealing it because like with your example with the Saran Wrap, what if I say no, it was not sealed.
But then they say, what about the Saran Wrap?
What about this?
Wasn't there that on it?
They're scared if they say no, they're going to think people are going to think they're stupid because they're like, well, it was wrapped up.
tim pool
So we were all, I think everybody, glued to that court proceeding with you.
And I felt like there were several times they tried to get you and you didn't let them get you.
unidentified
Did you practice?
luke rudkowski
Did you envision or were kind of trained with the questions that they were giving you?
kyle rittenhouse
There was a couple questions out there that I didn't prepare for, but we did go through a mock trial.
Dr. Joan Demetres, she was my jury consultant and she helped choose my jury and then she helped set up the mock trials.
That's how we determined if I was actually going to testify, because two of the three panels heard me testify, and the two that heard me testify found me not guilty, and then the one that didn't hear me testify, they had a mistrial.
shane cashman
Did you want to testify from the beginning?
kyle rittenhouse
Yeah, I wanted to tell my story.
I had nothing to hide.
shane cashman
Yeah, you were super authentic to me.
Like, you came off very authentic.
kyle rittenhouse
I did nothing wrong.
I had the truth on my side and I thought I wanted to tell my story.
shane cashman
It came off that way, I think, probably to most of us.
tim pool
Yeah, and then you got a really great meme where you're pouring gas and crying.
You saw that one?
I think you posted that.
kyle rittenhouse
Yeah, I put it on a t-shirt.
ian crossland
What was the meme?
Maybe I should just see the picture, I'll look for it.
luke rudkowski
It's the clerk proceeding.
tim pool
Kyle basically, recounting the story, has an emotional recurrence, and when gas prices went through the roof, did you make that or did someone else make this meme?
Kyle, basically you're starting to cry, but you're holding the gas pump in front of a car like the gas prices got you.
kyle rittenhouse
I think somebody else made that meme.
It's actually really funny because the left has used that meme against me so many times.
They've made fun of me.
So I just took it and I owned it.
I'm not going to let you guys use my face and make fun of me for it.
So I'm going to make fun of myself for it.
shane cashman
That's how you do it.
ian crossland
That's humiliating.
shane cashman
I'm sorry.
I was going to say, have you talked to Binger at all?
kyle rittenhouse
I have not talked to Flufferboy at all.
shane cashman
Nice.
tim pool
No, I was gonna say, we were just talking about, with the Kerry Lake trial, how the media is falsely framing everything.
That had to be... Did you know the media was always lying about stuff before this happened?
And I have to imagine, as you're going through the court proceedings, even before it, reading the media was like just fiction, just pure fiction.
kyle rittenhouse
I mean, you see the things the media are saying.
They twist things, they use soundbites, and like, it's ridiculous.
They try to get away with it, and in some instances they do.
I mean, they called me a white supremacist, a murderer of vigilante, and none of those are true.
But with the Carey Lake situation, they're only saying parts that they want to say, and they're leaving stuff out.
They're not telling the full story, and I think they should be obligated to, as the media, to report people on the facts.
shane cashman
Forgive me if this is too personal, but like, were there people that were close to you that started seeing you differently because they were believing the news instead of you?
kyle rittenhouse
I mean, I've lost a lot of friends and a lot of family members because they didn't want to fall out of, like, the clique or their friend groups.
shane cashman
Unbelievable.
kyle rittenhouse
But, you know, that's okay because it really shows who people are as humans and now I have better people surrounding me.
shane cashman
Yeah, that's the positive way to look at that.
ian crossland
Hopefully it's like a curse but like everyone gets to go through that in their life where they shed the skin of their past with the kids you grew up with and the parents that you don't like or don't get along with if you don't you know maybe you still do but those people you know when they start to disagree with you and complain about your new who you you're not who you used to be that's okay because you're growing and changing as a person.
shane cashman
I just hope it doesn't callous any of us, because I've been thinking about that myself a lot.
After the last two years, they weren't as wild as what you went through, but like, a lot of us have experienced that in the last two years, ten years, and I sometimes, on my word, like, I don't want to be too callous and not extend that forgiveness to someone else who, in the future, maybe I should still extend that.
ian crossland
Sometimes it comes full circle.
Like, you'll go through a phase where you fall out with people for whatever, twenty years, and then if you, you know, you stay true to yourself, it's inevitably that you can't deny that.
You know, transparent reality, when someone's really who they are, I think it's apparent.
tim pool
My view on this is that I think some people are inherently evil.
Absolutely, that's true for sure.
Obviously, you can look at child exploitation and stuff and just know that there are truly depraved people.
You can look at, I think it was, it may have been Dahmer or Bundy, who they sat on at court like, yeah, I know what I was doing was evil and wrong and all that stuff, and I deserve to be in prison or whatever.
So like, they know what they're doing.
Yeah.
Then you look at, there are some people like in my life, and I'm wondering if you, I assume you probably experienced something like this, people who you thought were really good friends of yours, because the way the media decided the story is going, just everything about your friendship, everything you've ever experienced is meaningless, and you are now enemies.
I've experienced that personally with people I've known for my past.
There's some of these people where the last thing I ever said to them was we had a skate session, we drank some smoothies, and I was like, bro, fist bump, let's skate next time, I'll see you later.
And then, you don't realize it, but it's the last time you ever hung out.
But you leave on good terms.
And then a few years later, they're on Twitter lying about you, smearing you and attacking you, and I'm like, you never knew how evil that person was until they decided they could profit off of their knowledge of you or the fact that you were friends.
Has something like that happened to you?
kyle rittenhouse
Yeah, I've seen that a lot of times, especially with people I've gone to school with.
In the beginning, I was seeing some articles that they were like, oh, Kyle Rittenhouse was this, like, terrible person who was, like, violent in school.
And I was just like, I wasn't violent in school.
I dropped out freshman year.
I wasn't a senior with you in high school.
I did, I since then did graduate, but I'm like...
I was in school with you for like a year.
You, you don't know who I am.
tim pool
I also dropped out freshman year.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
Look at you now.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're writing, they're writing smears.
And, and like, this is a big point of attack for the left, like not going through institutionalized learning facilities is like, they point at you and do that thing from body snatchers.
And then they say, haha, that proves you're stupid, and I'm like, I don't know, I'm just running a business, man.
shane cashman
Oh, I'm sorry.
I was just going to say, that's how I felt watching a lot of these defense attorneys today.
Like, almost like laughing at the guy with the accent.
Like, they couldn't even help it, you know?
tim pool
The Alabama guy?
shane cashman
Yeah, right?
Like, it was just like, to them it was kind of like a joke.
You know, not all of them, but like a few of them.
And, you know, earlier, they were just, some of them were joking about like what private schools they went to.
You know, they're from a different dimension than me, and you can see that in the way they treat other people.
tim pool
What if they really are from a different dimension?
shane cashman
I think they might be.
tim pool
Two universes collided and that's why we have the culture war.
luke rudkowski
Interdimensional demons is what some people call it.
ian crossland
You said you dropped out but then did you go back to school?
kyle rittenhouse
I ended up, while I was on trial, I did online school and I ended up getting my high school diploma.
The left will attack people that don't have an education, but they will be some of the most successful business owners out there, yet the person who has is like $110,000 in debt because they wanted to get their doctorate degree or however much it costs.
luke rudkowski
Gender studies?
kyle rittenhouse
Yeah, their lesbian dance theory.
That's right, that's right.
luke rudkowski
I would study that.
But hold on, think about it.
tim pool
But hold on, think about it.
If you were going to study feminist dance theory under James Lindsay, that's worth spending
money on because he's not trying to indoctrinate, he's actually breaking down what they're doing
shane cashman
Is he dancing?
luke rudkowski
We're not talking about feminists.
Kyle is saying something else.
tim pool
But I'm saying like woke ideology as a whole, not just like one subset of like lesbian dance theory.
I'm saying if you actually took a study on wokeness and critical race theory from James Lindsay, he'd give you a holistic view of what their goals are, what they believe, but when you go to the average college, they're actually just indoctrinating and telling you, you know, white people are bad or something like that.
kyle rittenhouse
And then those people that graduate end up living off of welfare and end up doing nothing with their lives and living off the government, essentially.
ian crossland
I almost went down that road, yeah.
I was on welfare for a while.
Unemployment.
And then it was hard to get off, because it was like, if you get a job, you lose your unemployment.
I'm like, well, I'll make less money.
kyle rittenhouse
It's the poverty cycle.
It's like, okay, so you're in that cycle, and then you're getting money for the government,
then you go out and work, and then you're making less than the government's giving
you and you're like, oh, well, I can go afford
this fancy steak right now, but when I'm working, I'm living off of McDonald's
because I can't afford that fancy steak.
ian crossland
And I had more free time, too, on unemployment.
kyle rittenhouse
It was crazy.
Like, you could, like, they don't want to do anything to contribute to society.
tim pool
And, what is this, maybe like, 15 years ago, I was on unemployment after losing a job,
and they make you call once a week, and, you know, it was in Illinois and Chicago,
and you gotta answer questions, like, Yes.
You know, did you make any money?
No.
And after a few months- Was this during COVID?
No, no, no, no, this is 15 years ago.
kyle rittenhouse
Oh, 15, I thought you said two years ago.
tim pool
No, no, sorry, 15.
And I'm talking to this woman, And she was like, okay, you know, your, your unemployment is up for review or whatever.
She said, have you been looking for work?
And I said, I have.
And she's like, have you found anything?
And I was like, I'll be honest with you.
Like, there are some jobs I could take probably, cause like, I'm not trying to be on unemployment, but they pay less than I was making before.
And I'm kind of worried.
And she goes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Don't take those jobs.
She's like, the last thing we want is for you to take a job that pays less.
Then you find out you can't pay your bills.
You lose your job and you're back on unemployment again.
And I was like, Oh, that actually kind of makes sense.
She goes, you need to find something comparable so that you can get back in the flow of things.
I think that makes sense.
But I also think some people are going to be like, look, if you're, if you find a job and you're getting paid, you know, 50 K a year, and then you lose your job going on employment, then they tell you that you're never going to get off unemployment until it, at least until it expires.
shane cashman
Yeah.
It's like COVID was beautiful for a lot of people.
I got that COVID cash.
tim pool
The bonus.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
They were getting free, they were getting unemployment plus the bonus.
And it was extended for a year and people were just not working.
And that money that they were getting, people think this is like your tax dollars.
No, no, it's modern monetary theory.
They're basically just extracting the value of your money.
That's why inflation is going through.
luke rudkowski
One of the reasons.
And a nice Donald Trump $2,000 check that the government couldn't even roll out correctly.
Everyone was really happy about that.
ian crossland
Speaking of, what's this $1.7 trillion omnibus bill?
Is that for us?
Yeah, it's actually for you.
luke rudkowski
It's for the world, actually.
tim pool
Let's pull this story up.
We got this here from Fox News.
Kevin McCarthy breaks with McConnell, will oppose $1.7 trillion omnibus bill.
McConnell said Republicans have voted to support the bill.
So we have Jake Sherman tweeting, GOP leader Kevin McCarthy will attend the Senate GOP
steering lunch today to make the case against the omnibus. Twenty Republicans voted to proceed to the
bill yesterday, and the Senate GOP leadership is supporting the package. I got to say, look, I'm not the
biggest fan of McCarthy.
People have been complaining that he was funding, he was putting up money to stop populist candidates, but clearly the pressure campaign on his speakership is making him at least move away.
This omnibus is complete and utter garbage for one reason.
Now, I know Rand Paul came out in his epic viral video where he was just ripping it apart.
I can only say this because I was watching the Kerry Lake trial.
I didn't get a whole lot of it.
The only thing I did understand was that Rand Paul called it.
He said outright, it's going to be the 18th or 19th, we're going to get a 5,000-page spending bill that we're not going to be allowed to read, and then they're going to expect us to sign it.
And this is what they're doing right now.
Apparently there's funding for corporate media in this.
I've been seeing people talk about it.
There's a whole bunch of garbage.
It's $1.7 trillion.
luke rudkowski
It's a total destruction of the American dollar.
It's spending money that they don't have on crazy issues and things that absolutely make no sense at all.
I looked in some of the details here.
It looks like there's going to be money allocated from your money from American taxes or just devaluing your money to secure the border of Pakistan and Lebanon in order to have Recruitment for women in police forces in South and Central America, gender programs in Pakistan, and there's also an allocation for $2.6 billion in order to fund the prosecution of the January 6th domestic terrorists, according to CNN.
That's their reporting of it.
But again, this is only what we're seeing now.
No one still hasn't really read the full list, as of course, it's 4,155 pages. Some of the worst people in politics have gotten
together and said, you know what? We're just going to write ourselves a blank
check.
You can't even read what's in there.
This should be absolutely criminal and they're going to absolutely tank the US
economy and spend money on gender programs in Pakistan.
This is absolutely bewildering. This is out of touch with reality.
And if there ever was a conspiracy theory that came true about the great reset
and destroying the American way of life and the American middle class,
this is the perfect example.
ian crossland
I just did some math.
The U.S.
debt right now is 31 trillion.
So if we're going to print another 1.7, that's 1 18th of our national debt.
That means that we're devaluing the dollar by 1 18th of its own value, which is like 4 cents.
shane cashman
We're in a pretend society.
ian crossland
Your dollar is now going to be worth, if this goes through, your dollar is worth 96 cents.
shane cashman
It's all fake, dude.
tim pool
Your dollar worth 96 cents, but if you go back to pre-Jekyll Island, your dollar's worth like .001 cents.
luke rudkowski
Right.
ian crossland
When you start to do the math, you see the compounding diminishment of the value.
luke rudkowski
The purchasing power of the U.S.
dollar keeps going down dramatically almost every few years.
And when you look at it from even the 1960s, it is an absolute debasement.
It is an absolute destruction.
I mean, we are reaching levels of Myanmar, Germany.
We are reaching levels of what people saw in Zimbabwe, of what people saw in Venezuela.
There's no going back from this.
This is banks just printing zero on the computer, just clicking zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, giving it to all their buddies, all their friends.
This is the sinking ship.
And this is them taking all the silver out of the ship and making sure that they're able to have it for themselves.
ian crossland
I feel like there's people are trying to sink the ship so we could remove the ballast.
I agree there's no going back.
There's no paying off the debt, but we could default on the debt.
luke rudkowski
Very good point.
They blew up the ship, now they're taking the silver from the ship, and now they're on their lifeboats.
tim pool
Well, that's what I've been saying.
It's like the Titanic hits the iceberg, and instead of telling the people on the ship, they're running and grabbing as much silver and stuff in their pockets as they make their way to the lifeboats.
luke rudkowski
And the memers are playing the music, and enjoying some kind of semblance of reality.
tim pool
We know it's happening, and we're standing there just rocking out like, ah, we're going down.
But I guess my question is then, we're watching this happen with this omnibus spending bill, What do you do?
Let me tell you a story.
There was this viral story a few months ago where it was like, these people inherited a house from their grandfather and then they popped open one of the floorboards in the attic and they found a case with like $50,000 in it and they were like, this is amazing!
And it was $50,000 from like the 1950s and I was like, bro, that was like a million bucks back then.
So if their grandfather bought gold or some other hard asset and hid that instead of U.S.
dollars, they'd be millionaires.
ian crossland
And what's happening is that people with a lot of money are buying gold and hard assets.
luke rudkowski
Or purchased real estate as well.
ian crossland
Exactly.
luke rudkowski
Imagine the property that they would have now.
ian crossland
And the people that aren't able to afford hard assets right now are the ones that are at the bottom of the Ponzi scheme.
I don't know how to help them other than, like, if we did default to the Federal Reserve, at the very least we say we're not paying you back the interest on our debt, which would probably cut $15 trillion.
I don't know how much of the debt is interest.
But if we were to say we're not paying any of it back, private bank, you've been screwing us for 100 years, it's over.
Bannon, Steve Bannon, I asked him on stage at AmericaFest the other night if that would be ethical.
And he said, yeah.
I said, would it destroy our standing around the world?
No.
But I mean, that was vague.
We weren't specific getting into it.
I need to get more economists involved with what would actually happen to the U.S., the new currency, if we were to... But he said if we don't force debt sovereignty, a sovereign debt collapse, that it's going to happen to us against our will in a way that we don't want.
So we may as well take it by the horns and make it happen.
luke rudkowski
From my perspective, we are seeing the deliberate destruction of the American petrodollar.
We have seen Saudi Arabia position themselves closer and closer to China, establishing more relations with them.
We just saw the Indian Central Bank had come out and warning that it was cryptocurrencies that allegedly could Trigger the next financial crisis.
What we saw with Sam Bankman Freed, what we saw with him moving around billions of dollars from the Bank of Ukraine, working with the World Economic Forum, working with, of course, American politicians, funneling all that money there.
I think we have a perfect scapegoat that will be Bitcoin, that will be cryptocurrencies, that will be decentralized currencies, that will be taken down by these central bankers, that will then introduce the central bank digital currency, and with that, the social credit score.
This is a long game that they've been after for a very long time, and they will stop at nothing at trying to achieve that.
This is the current reality that we're dealing with, and I think the more we wake up to it, the more we realize it, the more we could actually try to stop it.
But right now, when these big central bankers are causing so much damage, what can we really do?
That's the big question that I think a lot of people should be asking themselves right now.
tim pool
This feels like the perfect story for Ian and Luke, who are ragging on the Fed the whole time.
I just don't know if Kyle has any thoughts on, like, financial policy or anything like that, but, you know, what do you think, man?
kyle rittenhouse
I'm 19.
luke rudkowski
So what kind of stocks and bonds do you have?
What's your retirement, Kyle?
Please tell us.
shane cashman
Kyle Crypto.
luke rudkowski
What Bitcoin are you in?
What crypto are you in?
unidentified
Sorry, I'm just, I'm just... You know, I tried crypto.
kyle rittenhouse
I tried crypto for a little bit.
I don't really understand it at all.
I will be completely honest.
I honestly am so lost in the conversation.
shane cashman
I was too equipped on it.
tim pool
But that's why I asked.
Otherwise, Luke and Ian just go back and forth.
luke rudkowski
We could keep going.
Me and Ian could keep ranting.
Also, just one last caveat here.
Sam Bankman Fried, by the way, will likely be moved to the same prison that Jeffrey Epstein was taken out of.
So the story is going to be coming full circle very soon.
No way!
That's a joke, yes.
Those are the reports coming in right now as he's being extradited to the United States as we're speaking right now.
But Kyle, just more in general, to kind of ask you here to bring you in with this conversation financially, what are you seeing from your perspective?
You're 19 years old, you're still young, but what are you seeing with savings, money, how people are treating their money?
Are people going out and partying and going crazy with their money?
Or are they saying, hey, times are really tough?
kyle rittenhouse
You know some people I know like I know a lot of kids my age.
I live in a college town and I see a lot of people that just go out and party.
I stay at home.
I'm facing a civil lawsuit right now.
I really don't have the money to go out and do all these things that people my age are.
I dipped into cryptocurrency a little bit.
I don't understand it.
I bought a coin.
I made like 80 bucks off of it.
unidentified
Hey, there you go.
kyle rittenhouse
The market crashed and I was like, ooh, this is going down.
And I was using Coinbase, I saw it was going down.
luke rudkowski
Why?
kyle rittenhouse
No, don't do Coinbase.
No, okay.
Sorry, go ahead.
tim pool
We'll talk after.
unidentified
Yeah, FTX, right Luke?
No.
ian crossland
Centralized exchanges.
unidentified
Hold your own keys people, for goodness gracious, please.
luke rudkowski
Goodness, I'm sorry, go ahead.
ian crossland
Bill Altman suggested that when you use the networks like Coinbase and Binance, that you treat them like public restrooms.
You go in, do your business, you make your trade, and then you put it back on your own storage.
luke rudkowski
That's a good analogy.
tim pool
Public restrooms.
ian crossland
You don't want to hang out there and see what gets smeared on the wall.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, very bad people.
Very bad politicians hang out in public restrooms and they do very bad things as they were previously caught doing before, but I won't get into that story.
ian crossland
Sorry, I felt like I interrupted you.
Maybe the members only.
You were saying, Kyle?
kyle rittenhouse
But, uh, you know, I pulled out, um, I collected my 80 bucks I made from it, and... You gotta pay taxes on that now.
Oh, yeah.
Gotta pay 15%.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I gotta pay taxes on... 15 to 30%.
kyle rittenhouse
I did not know that.
luke rudkowski
Yes?
ian crossland
Well, it's still, like, crazy, the tax law on the crypto, because no one knows what's happening.
Like, it, all of a sudden, they talk about inflation.
31 trillion in U.S.
dollars.
How about the inflation, the crypto inflation that just happened over the last 10 years?
What's the real global currency number right now?
They say the market cap of crypto is only 2 trillion, but, I mean, You know, it just feels like the whole machine is about to explode, okay?
tim pool
With the Twitter files, we've got so much coming out.
With Twitter files 8, the FBI, I think it was the FBI, right?
Or who was it?
Military Intelligence Engaging in Psychological Operations, pretending to be Middle Easterners.
We've actually known this story going back to, I think it was 2011 or 2012, with, it was, I think it was Barrett Brown who did, what was the name of their, Project PM, I think it was.
And they exposed that U.S.
military were buying sock puppet accounts, fake accounts, to do psychological operations.
We now have new developments from Twitter.
The fact that we know that, and it came because Elon Musk bought Twitter, it feels like the whole facade is crumbling.
You look at how they're spending money.
We're off the fractional reserve banking policy.
We're onto infinite reserve.
Banks can just make whatever amount of money they want, give it to whoever they want.
The system is just gutted.
And it feels like they know it.
Everything's about to collapse.
My question, I guess, is, is it intentional?
You know, I think you were, who was just saying that?
Ian, were you saying that?
Like, like it's absolutely not purpose?
luke rudkowski
If they weren't trying to destroy the economy and rob the middle class of their wealth, what would they be doing differently?
I think that's the question that a lot of people need to ask themselves.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story from EV Magazine.
We have to do this.
EVmagazine.com.
Sam Bankman Freed, likely to be transferred to the same jail where Jeffrey Epstein allegedly Committed suicide.
ian crossland
Did not kill himself.
tim pool
I love how EV Magazine actually put allegedly, like, they're not gonna just say it, despite the fact the official narrative from all of the corporate press and everything is that Epstein did, they're still maintaining allegedly.
So, Sam Bankman-Fried, you know, run an FTX into the ground, and gets arrested, and now they're like, well, you know, we're gonna transfer him to jail, and then I have to imagine The moment he found out, they're like, oh, they're transferring you to, uh, this is the prison.
He just, his eyes started welling up because he knows what's coming next.
ian crossland
Have you been following this at all, Kyle?
kyle rittenhouse
You know, uh, kind of putting me on the spot right here.
Uh, no.
No.
ian crossland
It's nuts.
It's like the biggest financial scam in human history.
One of, if not the most, the biggest.
kyle rittenhouse
I think I'm gonna have to start learning some more about it.
tim pool
Well, yeah, but, you know, I don't mean to put you on the spot.
Yeah, yeah, I was just wondering how deep you are in it.
When Luke brought up that the jail Epstein was in, and then, you know, he was shuffled off this mortal coil, and now- Can you just imagine his face?
This is an absolutely corrupted jail where the jail guards still weren't held responsible for their larger crimes of whatever happened.
luke rudkowski
I mean, I'm trying to be careful with the words I'm trying to use here.
I'll just say when Epstein was taken out, I think that's more of a fair assessment since there was multiple attempts, multiple camera failures, multiple failures of security, multiple procedures that were not followed.
The two prison guards that were looking on their phone for high ticket items that they were going to purchase, like motorcycles and expensive furniture, They were, of course, brought to court under federal charges.
The federal government essentially gave them a slap on the wrist.
They never faced any kind of real repercussion for it.
And for that person, Sam Bankman-Fried, to go to that jail as he was arrested, right before he was about to give testimony to Congress, really shows you that there might be something bigger here, as many people question Where did he get a lot of that money from?
Where did all that money come from?
As a lot of people are also saying, as soon as Epstein kind of was removed from the picture, there was a lot of money in play.
There was still a lot of assets and money from Jeffrey Epstein that still hasn't been accounted for.
A lot of people are speculating that that money was moved into SBF in order to continue the money laundering operation involving the World Economic Forum, the Bank of Ukraine, and that's how they were kind of moving money back and forth through all these sinister parties.
tim pool
Someone said on this show, they said that when the Epstein stuff happened, like right afterwards, everything started unraveling.
shane cashman
COVID.
I mean everything.
tim pool
Everything.
shane cashman
Like the world started to fall apart after that.
That's how I felt.
luke rudkowski
People's consensus, people's understanding of the world and participation with it kind of faltered a little bit because how else could they not realize that your tax dollars were paying for this international trafficking and extortion operation of children?
The people on the left admitted it, the people on the right admitted it.
We all agree that this was happening.
The corporate media is still lying about it, but the only thing that kept it alive was a hashtag.
Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.
shane cashman
We were kind of unified for a little bit there.
luke rudkowski
Exactly.
shane cashman
It was nice.
tim pool
What if the story is...
Epstein gets recruited to handle kind of like this international laundering, but then secretly begins this blackmail operation and turns it on his handlers and these global elites so that when they're like, all right, Jeffrey, you're going to do this and do that.
And then he walks in there and goes, actually smoking a cigar.
We're not.
And then he presses play on the TV and it shows some, like, lewd and lascivious video of a world leader.
Because that's the theory, right?
That he was recording these people on the island and they're like, what is this?
And he's like, you're going to do what I want now.
What's the possibility that he was either a patsy or that he was actually running the show?
What do you think, Luke?
luke rudkowski
It's, uh, I mean, he was one of the players, but he was one of the disposable players.
He was still taking orders, obviously, since they took him out.
But he did have surveillance cameras hooked up everywhere in every room, especially in his New York City mansion.
There was many, um, There's a lot of testimony.
People coming forward saying there was cameras in the bathroom, there was cameras in the hallways, there was hidden cameras everywhere.
And one of the victims recently came forward and said Jeffrey Epstein was very smart when politicians and powerful people were forcing themselves onto children.
He made sure he wasn't in those camera angles and he made sure that the video footage was kept in a safe.
The FBI broke that safe and then they found a whole bunch of photos and videos that we still haven't heard about today.
tim pool
Wouldn't that suggest he wasn't the pawn, that he was the ringleader?
luke rudkowski
I don't know.
We don't know at the end of the day because we're still scratching the surface of what we actually know that's happening here.
He was a major player.
He was one of the biggest players.
But he was, again, a disposable player that at the end of the day I think still was taking orders and there was bigger people above him.
tim pool
I don't know though.
ian crossland
But then he made it to the other side of the chessboard and thought he was a queen.
tim pool
That's what I'm saying, that he flipped it on him.
Because, as we were pointing out, the moment he's gone, all of this stuff starts unraveling.
We start seeing people get exposed, the money starts going wild.
You make a good point, maybe it's very speculative, but then FTX starts funneling this money and now SBF's going to the same place.
I wonder if he wasn't a pawn.
He was like a centerpiece, a linchpin, connecting the dots of all these things.
Without him, the whole thing just unravels.
ian crossland
There's a painting by Maria Farmer who was one of the girls that was trafficked or like victims I guess if you want to call or survivors of this whole experience and it shows she like paints all the people that she remembers being at the island and being involved at you know Epstein's house in New York and stuff like that and Jeff is in the picture in the far right upper right corner we can probably find the picture at some point it's called the setiles or the setiles s-e-t-i-l-e-s and it shows Jeffrey in a UFO. He was the space cadet, he
was the crazy wild face of the piece of the movement. She certainly did not peg him as the
center of anything. If anything, it was Ghislaine Maxwell. In the very center of this
picture is Ghislaine Maxwell, the head of a serpent, like the head of a dragon. And then there's lots
of other faces of people we know.
luke rudkowski
She was the daughter of Robert Maxwell, who also was someone who was deemed a double agent,
working with Israeli Mossad, Russian intelligence, UK intelligence as well.
A lot of people call them a double agent and that's why he was kind of taken out.
He went on a boat ride and then was never kind of found again.
He was essentially a Rupert Murdoch kind of figure in the media.
Glenn Maxwell also is another kind of fascinating figure that played a very key central role here.
She also, very interestingly, also had a helicopter license, a submarine license as well.
What?
shane cashman
And, yeah, she was... Wasn't Ghislaine in charge of, like, going to the boat and getting the files away from people after he, like, disappeared or died?
luke rudkowski
What do you mean?
shane cashman
Like, Ghislaine, like, there's other sisters, and, like, she was the one that went and got the files, like, from the business to keep it safe.
luke rudkowski
You gotta help me reference some of that, but her sisters are also connected to the FBI and their database centers and also to big tech social media as well.
So it's a big club and we're not in it.
shane cashman
I've been listening to Whitney Webb interviews about this.
luke rudkowski
She wrote Yeah, Whitney Webb does some great, great work.
shane cashman
Yeah, shout out to Whitney Webb.
luke rudkowski
You gotta give me a specific reference to what Glaine was doing afterwards.
shane cashman
Yeah, I'll forget what that timeline was, but it made it seem like she was just like... I think Whitney's point was that Glaine was way more entrenched with whatever dealings her dad was doing, because she was there to collect certain files at the... I think after he died.
But I gotta check that.
tim pool
I got that painting that Ian referenced.
Yeah, anecdotal.
It is crazy.
Yeah.
It is a crazy image.
Can we pull it up?
ian crossland
It's of course anecdotal.
This is from Maria Farmer's memory of what she experienced while she was involved.
tim pool
Is Ghislaine right here?
ian crossland
Right in the middle there.
tim pool
Is this Bezos?
ian crossland
She's in a bubble, like she's protected.
tim pool
Oh, she's got like a dragon body with a weird tail or whatever.
Is this Bezos right here?
What does that say?
That looks like Bezos.
ian crossland
You know, you can start naming names.
I don't know if my life is on the line if I do that, but all their faces are right there for you to look at and name yourself if you want to.
is a guy there right in the middle is a guy that's Lex Westner.
Oh, he's the head of Bed, Bath and Beyond and and Victoria's Secret. Yeah, look at this. Look at this guy on the TV. I
don't know. It's like Bill Glenn. This is nuts. This look this one here looks very suggestive. It's like a fever. Is
that hanging in the White House? And you see in the upper right there's Jeffrey Epstein in a
Right here?
No, in the very upper- Yeah, yeah.
In the very upper right, in that gray UFO.
Are you sure?
I think I'm looking at a delay.
That's Jeff.
tim pool
And he's like- Who are these weird people?
This is a weird painting, anyway.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
It kind of reminds me of that old painting of, like, the guy reaching through the dimensions.
You seen that?
tim pool
No, what is it?
shane cashman
It's very old, like, carving.
I forget what they call it.
But he's, like, reaching through this dimension to another dimension.
luke rudkowski
That's how- Kyle, were you in the Matrix or outside of the Matrix when this story broke?
Kyle, were you in the Matrix or outside the Matrix when this larger story broke?
kyle rittenhouse
By the matrix, do you mean in jail?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, yeah.
As far as you were awakened to what's really happening politically or before everything happened when you weren't politically involved when this story broke.
kyle rittenhouse
I was not in the matrix.
luke rudkowski
Okay.
I was wondering what your response was if you heard this or even if it was being talked about, especially amongst the young group of people that you were hanging out with.
kyle rittenhouse
No, no, this was not a conversation piece.
I'm sitting here looking at that photograph and I'm just like, wow, this is one of, this is one of the most creepiest like photos I've seen ever.
It's just like, it's just weird and interesting.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
When you agreed to come on this show, it was like getting pushed right into the deep end of the pool.
You know what I mean?
It's like, you've got your story, you've got stuff to talk about.
And then like Luke's just, We could go further down the rabbit hole, by the way.
luke rudkowski
We're just starting.
tim pool
We're just kind of digging the, you know... On Tucker Carlson, just last week, he basically reported that the CIA killed JFK.
Or that they were involved in it.
shane cashman
So it's like... I see that all over the place today, huh?
That's crazy, dude.
No one's talking about that, really.
tim pool
It's strange for me, and I'm sure for everybody listening, that when we're younger it's like, look, there's no global elite ring of trafficking going on.
The CIA was not involved in these conspiracy theories.
Now I'm looking at my phone and I'm like, what time is it?
How much longer until they come out and claim the moon landing wasn't actually a real thing?
Like, Chunker Carlson's gonna go out and be like, we've got new evidence!
kyle rittenhouse
That actually comes out at 5pm tonight.
shane cashman
Whoa, breaking here.
tim pool
It's like, all the conspiracy theories are coming true!
shane cashman
We've inherited the shattered simulation.
kyle rittenhouse
Speaking of conspiracy theories, did you see what the FBI released on the statement about the Twitter files today?
tim pool
Oh, yeah, man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's pull this up.
I have a tweet from Carl Benjamin because he had a great one.
So we have the statement from the FBI on Twitter.
They say breaking.
The FBI responds to the Twitter files claiming that their own leaked communications with Twitter are misinformation to discredit the agency.
They said, it is unfortunate that conspiracy theorists and others are feeding the American public misinformation with the sole purpose of attempting to discredit the agency.
Carl Benjamin of the Lotus Eaters podcast says, oh, I forgot that I was just a conspiracy theorist and the FBI didn't collude with Twitter to suppress the New York Post's Hunter Biden laptop story that I watched happen in real time and then read the files which show them discussing it.
My lying eyes keep deceiving me.
This is real life, okay?
It's unraveling.
We know they did it.
We know they're doing it.
We have the proof they did it.
And they're just coming out and lying, saying they didn't do it.
ian crossland
It's buzzwords.
Misinformation.
Conspiracy.
These buzzwords.
I'm kind of getting fed up with these buzzwords.
kyle rittenhouse
The buzzwords, that's what they do.
They throw in these words, this misinformation, these conspiracy theorists, just to try to cover their own asses and not do anything about it, because they know they're wrong and they know they're in the wrong.
tim pool
But I love how Luke often brings this up too, that conspiracy theorists was a phrase created, I think Tucker talked about this, that the phrase first emerged in the corporate media around, was it JFK?
luke rudkowski
JFK, yep.
tim pool
And now the FBI is using it to discredit Legitimate emails from Twitter leaked by the CEO of Twitter to a variety of reporters showing the FBI.
Not only were they instructing or giving guidance on who to censor, but they were paying for it.
My favorite component of the story is that, you know, we're going to mention him again, Oliver Darcy, the media reporter for CNN reported, no, the FBI didn't pay Twitter for censorship.
What they were doing was reimbursing Twitter for the labor costs Oh, that's so nice.
Fulfilling government requests.
I'm like, this is what I talk about when they're sitting there and you're like, um, you know, Mr. FBI agent, is there a door on the front of the building?
Or no, no, Twitter's a better, uh, Mr. Dorsey, does the Twitter headquarters have a door?
Uh, no, it doesn't.
There's no door.
No, there isn't.
How do you get in?
There's a portal.
That's the game they play.
So this is what they're doing right now.
No, the FBI didn't pay Twitter.
They reimbursed them for the labor costs of acquiescing to government requests.
So they paid them?
luke rudkowski
They gave them money?
This is the perfect way to understand that almost everyone is in an abusive relationship with their government.
This is the perfect example of gaslighting, doublespeak, 1984 bullcrap that they're just putting out there.
And what do they think they're going to achieve here?
I mean, obviously, more and more people are seeing the Twitter files.
They're seeing the documents.
They're seeing the evidence for themselves.
They're listening to it.
They're seeing it with their own eyes.
And right now, the state is telling you, don't believe your own eyes.
Don't believe your own ears.
Don't believe your own mind.
Believe us.
That's the level we are at when it comes to the propaganda that we're dealing with.
That's a very dangerous level for any state.
tim pool
It's political Amber Heard.
Amber Heard, she's like, I didn't punch you.
I just closed my fist and hit you.
ian crossland
Kyle, after you've experienced, with the Kenosha experience, something that probably less than, you know, one trillionth of percent of humans have experienced, stuff like that, or very, very few Americans have experienced.
What was your, like, what's your perception of the government before and after?
luke rudkowski
And weren't the feds lying and keeping data away from your court trial?
kyle rittenhouse
Let's talk about that for a second though.
So the FBI, they had aerial drone footage filming my trial, not my trial, they probably were doing that too.
luke rudkowski
But the event that you were involved in.
kyle rittenhouse
The incident that happened, they were filming it with an aerial plane.
And they had thermal imaging.
I don't know if you remember that.
luke rudkowski
Yep.
kyle rittenhouse
And they gave us a, like, we knew it was out there.
They refused.
They had a guy come in that was operating the camera.
Sorry, I'm just trying to remember this correctly.
He was operating the camera, and then he was testifying.
My attorney asked him, what's the tail number on the plane?
Because we had it.
And then the state's attorney comes up.
Nope, we're objecting.
Here's his TUI letter.
Like, pulled him off.
They refused to air it.
I don't know if they aired it.
They refused to air it to my belief.
They didn't want him to have his name out there, and he couldn't be on camera.
And I was like, what is the government doing?
What is the FBI?
His whole testimony was thrown out.
The judge was like, okay, the jury has to, like, they can't use anything he said.
And we did it.
They also had a drone video and they gave us a decomp- decompensated decompressed version decompressed version of that while the state had the enhanced version.
tim pool
But I remember that the enhancements was like a computer manipulation.
kyle rittenhouse
Yep, absolutely.
They were adding data to it.
tim pool
And then we found out because the Portly lawyer, I believe it was, when he showed his desk... Lunchbox?
Is that his name?
kyle rittenhouse
Yeah, James Cross, ADA Cross.
unidentified
He's got his pet name.
He had on his computer, he had programs.
kyle rittenhouse
He had an app called Handbrake on his computer which decompresses files and makes them all blurry like that.
tim pool
Not decompress, it compresses.
kyle rittenhouse
Compresses.
tim pool
Right, so it goes from high resolution to low resolution and makes it hard to see what's going on.
luke rudkowski
So was this the state prosecutors denying the evidence or was this the FBI?
And was the FBI trying to clear the record in order to exonerate you?
kyle rittenhouse
No, the FBI was not trying to clear the record to exonerate me.
The FBI was after me.
This was the state working with the FBI to try to pretty much throw me in prison the rest of my life.
tim pool
But why?
unidentified
You saw the photo of the FBI agents taking the knee during the Black Lives Matter protest?
luke rudkowski
That should tell you a lot.
shane cashman
It's a cult.
They're a cult too.
kyle rittenhouse
Isn't there a photo of the director of the FBI with like a Biden mug out there somewhere?
I thought I saw something.
Is that the former FBI director?
shane cashman
I wouldn't be surprised.
I mean, this is the same year where we learned of all the, uh, how many FBI people were involved in the Whitmer.
tim pool
Oh yeah.
shane cashman
Kidnapping.
tim pool
All but two or something like that.
You know, it bums me out because, you know, in my mind growing up the FBI was this quirky conspiracy theorist who believed that aliens existed, you know, and then he'd reluctantly tell his boss, he'd tell his boss who then reluctantly would call in FBI teams to actually be forced to investigate crimes and they never wanted to believe him, but then you realize the FBI Actually forever, you know, since J. Edgar Hoover was just like a political weapon.
ian crossland
There's definitely a picture of Comey wearing a Biden-Harris shirt with a Biden-Harris mug, drinking coffee.
tim pool
But he was out.
ian crossland
He was already out of office at this point.
tim pool
Yeah, he got fired.
But I mean, I think the crazy thing is what we're learning now with Trump is that while he was president, The FBI was engaging in these psychological operations, discrediting the Hunter Biden laptop story with Twitter and all that stuff.
They're now lying about it.
And the funnier thing is, guys, I mean, come on.
The left keeps saying, yeah, but Donald Trump was in charge.
He was the president.
And it's like, not like they were listening to him.
But at the very least, couldn't Trump have done something?
I'm not going to blame Trump for being the victim of this political malfeasance or whatever.
But when you're the president, You gotta.
You gotta go through this stuff.
He should have fired everybody right away.
I understand the Russiagate stuff jammed him up and tied his hands and all that, and that was the intent, but Trump could have at least known what they were doing with social media.
He should have known they were banning his biggest supporters and trying to affect the outcome.
They were trying to affect him politically.
shane cashman
Did he say he was going to break up the FBI if elected again?
tim pool
He should!
shane cashman
I'm all for that.
unidentified
C.I.A., A.T.F., I.R.S.
luke rudkowski
That's what JFK said about the C.I.A.
shane cashman
Well yeah, and that was also post-Northwoods.
tim pool
Oh man.
luke rudkowski
Project Northwoods.
If you don't know what Project Northwoods is, it's definitely something worth looking up because it's a great conversation starter, especially with family and Northwoods.
ian crossland
In 30 seconds.
What is it in 30 seconds?
shane cashman
False flags on American citizens.
luke rudkowski
Joint Chiefs of Staff essentially planning a false flag on the United States in order to get us into a war with Cuba.
ian crossland
The problem I'm having is that domestic terrorism is good for business for the FBI and the CIA because it gives them something to do so that gives them a reason to hire more agents and to get more funding.
shane cashman
That's why I keep thinking if we get rid of them, which I want to, those people will just be like terrorists roving the country.
ian crossland
Wouldn't we just have another secret police step up if we got rid of ours?
shane cashman
It's probably inevitable, but we have to start over.
tim pool
But you know, the people need, look, government, the idea of power coalescing just inherently means corruption forms.
Corruption will happen.
And then the people need to come out and say, OK, we're choosing now to to shut the corruption down.
It takes willpower. And then when you weed out that corruption, the American Revolution,
for instance, they say to the king, not we're done. And then they say we weed that out.
We get the foundation of this country. And a couple hundred years later,
we now have very serious corruption in this country. It's going to take, in my opinion,
fifth generational tactics, meaning influence building shows like this,
people watching, spreading the word to their friends.
That's the path toward success right now.
And when enough people come together and then say no more to this corruption, the system falters.
And I think that's what we're witnessing right now with the exposure of all this.
We're watching it crumble.
This is the revolution.
This is the populist uprising.
In order for corruption to keep happening, you need the confidence of the people.
The people need to fear you.
They need to believe that if they speak out, they'll be hauled off to the gulag.
But right now, we're starting to see a fifth generational version of that scene from V for Vendetta, where the inspector is saying, and then someone will do something stupid.
And it shows the finger man with the badge shoot the little girl, and then all the people just go and just like start walking up to him like they don't care anymore.
We're getting to the point where people are starting to feel more and more confident about their ability to survive while defying the machine.
The machine has lost the ability to scare people.
It's got it to a certain degree.
We need more people to just say something as simple as this.
I don't care what you have to say anymore.
I'm gonna do my thing.
And we're watching that happen.
And the end result, I think, is something very, very positive.
When we talk about, you know, the fourth turning, we're in the end stages, it's supposed to get crazy, this could be it.
It may not be as bad as World War II, or the Civil War, or the American Revolution, it may just be that the economy gets bad, there's hyperinflation, maybe the dollar tanks, we're arguing on Twitter, because it's fifth generational, it's information war.
So maybe all we have to do is shatter the confidence in these systems, and then eventually when someone comes knocking on your door saying, I have a warrant, you go, Yeah, no one thinks your agency has any merit or any more, so no one cares what you have to say.
We're going to go to this court.
This court has said your warrants are worthless.
We just don't listen to you.
shane cashman
That's why I keep saying this is like we're in an existential renaissance.
I see so many people who were in the matrix, if you want to put it that way, who kind of woke up during COVID and they were like, whoa.
You know, they were not politically active at all, and now they're completely just out of it.
You know, they want to learn to grow their own food.
They want to take their kids out of school, you know?
And I think that was completely out of their world two years ago.
ian crossland
Tim Robbins was red-pilled.
I guess you call it the great red-pilling of Tim Robbins.
He said it was like, I feel horrible about the way I demonized people that didn't get the vaccine.
shane cashman
That's commendable.
tim pool
Let's talk about the story here we got from The Intercept.
Twitter aided the Pentagon in its covert online propaganda campaign.
Internal documents show Twitter white-listed CENTCOM accounts that were then used to run its online influence campaign abroad.
Check this out.
They say...
Twitter executives have claimed for years the company makes concerted efforts to detect and thwart government-backed covert propaganda campaigns on its platform.
Behind the scenes, however, the social networking giant provided direct approval and internal protection to the U.S.
military's network of social media accounts and online personas, whitelisting a batch of accounts at the request of the government.
The Pentagon has used this network, which includes U.S.
government-generated news portals and memes—memes?
In an effort to shape opinion in Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Kuwait, and beyond, let me just stress, it may be indirect, but this means the psychological operations were targeting American citizens as well.
You cannot go on Twitter with a fake Middle Eastern account, claim the US is doing something they're not, and not expect that to impact US citizens.
This, in my opinion, is seditious.
That the US government is running influence operations, impacting its own people.
That should not be allowed.
But, when we learn that they're actually providing, let's just call it reimbursement to Twitter for Twitter engaging in acquiescence to their requests, It's a subsidiary.
Twitter is allowing the U.S.
intelligence agencies to run psychological operations.
It's being exposed.
It was exposed a while ago.
It's getting exposed even more today.
This is confidence building to me.
And there's something else that I think is rather confidence building.
I learned thanks to Media Matters because they wrote this big smear about this show and they were like a 2022 breakdown of all of Tim Kast IRL's bigots and the guests and they're like they're ragging on Adrian Curry and Michael Malice and it's just like they're making up lies but one thing they pointed out was that the Ye interview was the number one live show on YouTube at that moment and so I was like oh I didn't know you could track that So, I'm tracking it right now, and we're currently number two on YouTube.
Number one is a weather channel report on the coming blizzard, which I can respect.
Everybody needs to know about that.
But then I realized that we are consistently the top spot on YouTube, and then I thought to myself, if this show can call out psychological operations, can call out Epstein and what was going on with that and Maxwell, yo, the sweater is unraveling, the thread has been pulled.
If this really is consistently a top live show on one of the biggest social media platforms in the world, I think we're breaking through and the narrative is crumbling and that's evidence.
shane cashman
This is the counterculture.
We're burning the simulation.
ian crossland
We need to create a stable system because things are going to change.
Things are changing right now and the US is no longer going to be the hegemon on earth.
We need to help Create an environment where people can live in peace and calm.
luke rudkowski
Well, the truth resonates with people, and the truth has a lot more power than some state propagandist, bureaucratic Becky sitting at her office eating her potato chips and spreading some bullcrap lies in order to bomb Yemeni children in hospitals and schools.
And the psyop of this story is big.
tim pool
We're number one now.
We surpassed the weather.
shane cashman
We're going to change that.
Good luck.
luke rudkowski
But this Pentagon PSYOP program is, again, I've been screaming about PSYOPs for so many years.
They've been denying it's been happening.
They're saying, no, there's no way.
We can't be doing propaganda on the American people.
Barack Obama signed a law, and I remember talking about this law specifically, with him signing a directive saying that propaganda could be used against the American public.
I remember covering this.
The corporate media responded, no, that's not going to happen.
No way.
It's happening.
It happened.
And with the U.S.
Pentagon running psyops on unsuspecting American people, promoting the war in Yemen is absolutely insidious.
And your tax dollars are literally doing PR for Al-Qaeda.
Because when you look at the war in Yemen, it's the US-Saudi coalition literally bombing the Houthi rebels, creating a humanitarian crisis.
Millions of people have been displaced.
Tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of people have died because of disease, because of lack of clean drinking water.
And the United States is working with al-Qaeda, this is even according to the Associated Press, in order to go after the Houthis that are aligned with Iran.
The Sunni Wahhabists with Saudi Arabia are literally doing staged PR photo shoots in Yemen.
The United States is helping their bombing campaign.
Jared Kushner is helping Saudi Arabia get better weapons deal in order to help spread and cause and inflict one of the worst humanitarian crises on the world right now and that's the war in Yemen.
And truly this is a big issue that deserves a lot more because they're running propaganda to promote war in Yemen of all places?
That is absurd.
ian crossland
What do they want in Yemen?
luke rudkowski
To appease Saudi Arabia.
ian crossland
Are they trying to, like, take control of the Gulf or something?
tim pool
The very, very surface-level rudimentary thing is there's ideological conflict between certain Yemeni rebel groups and Saudi Arabia, and Saudi Arabia wants to crush them, and the U.S.
is helping them do it.
And it's causing a major humanitarian crisis.
ian crossland
But it's, like, right there by the Gulf of Aden.
I want to look at the map.
Where is Yemen?
tim pool
I don't know if you know better, Luke, because my understanding is quite rudimentary.
ian crossland
Yeah, they want to control the Gulf of Aden is what they want.
They want that trade route in the Suez Canal.
It's why they have Israel where it's at.
The liberal economic order wants control.
luke rudkowski
It's a larger proxy war between Iran and Saudi Arabia.
So the United States is on the side of Saudi Arabia.
They're on the side of the Sunni Wahhabist.
The Shiite people in Iran are the ones that are usually the victims of this kind of larger attack, and they go back and forth.
There's a lot of history here, and it's all about who's going to have the sphere of influence.
Saudi Arabia and Iran are two major oil-producing countries.
And they both have a lot of power.
They both have a lot of resources.
The United States is trying to choose a winner, but Saudi Arabia is literally going to China and saying, we're going to expand our ties here.
We're going to have better security relations.
We're going to have better military relations.
We're going to have better trading relations with each other, which essentially is screwing over the U.S.
petrodollar, which is also involved here.
ian crossland
I think if Iran were to control Yemen, then they would have control of that gulf.
tim pool
I just want to say, it's remarkable to me.
I'm sitting here listening.
I see Kyle.
It's just so incredibly esoteric, the things we're talking about.
It's very, very in the weeds.
I just want to give a shout out to everybody watching.
You guys give me such inspiration that we can talk about Yemeni's conflict and humanitarian crisis and psychological operations and have the top streaming show on YouTube.
This is a white pill moment.
It's incredible.
shane cashman
I keep I'm sure you guys are listening. I'm sure you guys talked about already, but I keep thinking about everyone at
America fest applauding like the anarchist
It was really incredible about you know like there's so many different people with different thoughts at that place
and Seeing you guys on that stage is really inspiring Kyle like
tim pool
how Luke saying abolish the FBI and everyone's going crazy I'm like I've been saying this for 15 years, but now okay.
luke rudkowski
I'll take it someone wrote in in in the YouTube video for that
Live stream that we did saying that quote I can finally hear the crowd that Luke is always hearing in his head
unidentified
That's absolutely true I have hard
ian crossland
I go psycho about this stuff from time to time.
Kyle, psychologically, how do you stay calm?
How have you been dealing with not only what you've been going through personally, because you've been on also a personal whirlwind in a lot of ways that I'm not, and in addition to the geopolitical state, what do you do to stay calm and focused?
kyle rittenhouse
I like spend time with my family and dog and my girlfriend and that keeps me pretty level-headed insane, but I don't...
I don't dwell on what's happening currently on the outside in the world.
I focus on it and I look at it, but I don't let it keep me up at night.
tim pool
They kind of forced you into it, you know?
kyle rittenhouse
That too.
They did force me into it.
tim pool
But how did you end up deciding to go out that fateful night and provide first aid and do what you did?
I mean, certainly you had to have seen something happening in the world around you.
kyle rittenhouse
Well, I was down there cleaning graffiti, and then I met with the business owner, and then we talked to them.
I offered my assistance to help protect the business, and then he said, we'll let you know later.
And then a friend at Nick Smith called, and he said, hey, can you come help us protect this business?
Me and Dominic Black said, sure.
Went down there, protected the business, put out fires, got pepper sprayed, and then I got attacked.
tim pool
So it wasn't even something like where you had been watching the news?
kyle rittenhouse
I knew what was happening and I knew it was really disturbing what was happening.
Like, they were burning cities down.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
kyle rittenhouse
And nobody was really reporting on it.
They were saying they were peaceful protests.
tim pool
But this is, I think, a really, really good example.
You're probably the biggest example of someone being forced into it.
But for a lot of regular people, minding their own business, saying, I don't want to be involved, one day they look outside and they see, you know, a guy ramming his car down a parade, or they see people setting fire to buildings.
And then whether you want to or not, you're in it.
kyle rittenhouse
Yeah, um, look at the walk- that just reminded me.
Look how the media treated the, ah, where was it, the town?
shane cashman
Waukesha.
kyle rittenhouse
The Waukesha parade attack.
tim pool
Yeah, exactly.
kyle rittenhouse
They said it was the SUV's fault.
And I was just like, ridiculous.
Why can't the media just report on what is happening, what is, what they're actually doing, instead of just making it look better than it actually is?
tim pool
You know, I'd like to believe that it's because Good people are secretly being ruled by a collective of lizard people who have taken human form and are running the media, but that's just clearly not true.
It's just that a lot of people believe these conspiracies because it's easier to believe than the fact that some people are evil.
People don't want to believe that their fellow man would try to destroy everything just for a little bit of power.
kyle rittenhouse
But if they're conservative, they absolutely railroad them, they put them through these trials, and then they do these cruel and evil things to them.
They censor them, and they take away their voice, and they put them on blacklists.
unidentified
Yep.
kyle rittenhouse
And then if you're a leftist, you're put up on a pedestal and then, oh, you know, he's just having a bad day.
tim pool
Look at Twitter recently.
I love this.
Antifa accounts are getting banned.
You know, journalists who are doxing are getting banned and they keep lying about it.
And they actually, I love this so much, they gave themselves their own encyclopedia entry called Thursday Night Massacre because they got suspended one time temporarily.
And they called it the Thursday...
These journalists have narcissistic personality disorder to an extreme degree.
kyle rittenhouse
These journalists out here, they're like, like, look at you.
Because of some of these people, they've leaked your address.
I don't know if they've leaked it, but they obviously, they know where you live.
tim pool
Two guys showed up, they got shot at.
Long story short.
kyle rittenhouse
Oh, interesting.
tim pool
That's right.
kyle rittenhouse
You know, these independent journalists, not independent, there's a lot of great, but these journalists out here who are going out, spreading false narratives, and then complaining that they're getting banned off of Twitter, Look at Elon Musk.
Look at that guy who jumped on his car because he got suspended.
tim pool
Let me pull up this story.
Let's get into this one.
This is from the Daily Mail.
Quote, it wasn't me.
Footage shows millionaire tech entrepreneurs final words after being fatally shot by a trigger-happy cop while defending his home from a suspected burglar.
I'm going to give you the basics of this story.
Rajan Munnasingh, I'm probably pronouncing his name wrong, he's dead.
He was 33 years old, he was a tech entrepreneur, he lived in South Austin.
And apparently the story is, he heard a noise, and he thought someone broke into his house.
So he took his, I believe he had an AR, he carried it around, and it looked like he had it low ready.
He checked the perimeter of his house when the cops pull up.
The cops, within seconds, yell, drop the gun, and before he even finishes saying the word, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
Killing this guy.
He didn't die instantly, he fell to the ground and yelled, it wasn't me, it wasn't me.
They brought him to the hospital, he died.
This guy.
Was just legally protecting his own house, and these cops went nuts.
kyle rittenhouse
And Texas is an open carry state, so he had every legal right to do that.
I think his family should actually sue the Austin Police Department for that.
tim pool
Absolutely, but even outside of open carry, he's on his own property.
He's in his own house.
And these cops just assume, without even stopping them and questioning.
The reason I want to talk about this story, for one, obviously with you, Kyle, here, but also because in the past couple of weeks, we had several incidents.
I can't talk about most of them, but I can talk about the one where a shot was fired at some intruders who broke into my house.
We've been swatted 15 times.
We've had the bomb squad show up twice.
This is what they are doing.
So when I say they are trying to kill us, it's because they want this to happen.
They are hoping that the first time they do it, Knowing that we live in a castle doctrine state, and we are armed, they're hoping that we go outside to inspect the screaming and the crazy noise and the cops get trigger-happy.
Fortunately, we have measures in place, and that stupid idea isn't gonna work.
You take a look at what happens, and this is what's currently happening in modern politics.
kyle rittenhouse
Absolutely, like, I agree with you 100%.
They're trying to get us killed, they're trying to take out conservatives, they're trying to, like, this is an attack on the Second Amendment in a way, too.
Because I believe everybody should have a gun, but then people are going to be afraid to go and purchase a gun if they know, if they go and check their property, that they're going to be shot and killed for simply doing what they're doing.
luke rudkowski
And these officers need to be fired immediately.
kyle rittenhouse
They need to be charged.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, absolutely.
Charge him.
I absolutely agree with you.
I mean, they took an innocent life that wasn't doing anything wrong, wasn't breaking any laws, was protecting his own home and property.
They were clearly not trained, right?
He didn't point the gun at them.
he didn't fire off around an officer who clearly didn't know what he was doing
made some people would say he made a mistake some people would say that this
tim pool
is a memo. Let's quote the article because there's nothing graphic in this video that I have right here
you can just see the dude Raj look how he's carrying his weapon he's not even pointing it
he's holding it down at his side he does lift it up but this is before the full cops arrive
this was him checking his perimeter when the incident in question happened he was not
pointing anything at anybody.
He's on his own property.
And they shoot him.
But I want to say something, too.
You said they're trying to take out conservatives?
It's more than that.
I mean, look, the right, they call me liberal.
The left, they call me conservative.
Luke's certainly not a conservative.
Ian's certainly not a conservative.
I'm obviously some weird centrist that has, you know, a little bit of liberal, a little bit of conservative.
But this is not a far-right show.
This is not a conservative show.
But it's a show that tries to be honest.
It's a show that calls out psychological operations from CENTCOM happening on Twitter.
We will call out the lies, we'll present the evidence, and just try and give people a real view.
That is a threat to the narrative and the machine.
But I'll tell you this.
The fact that they've been swatting us and it's not working?
Another white pill moment.
They can't stop us.
ian crossland
So, my understanding of the story is that it was a neighbor.
A neighbor saw him patrolling his property and said, it looks like there may be a break-in or something's happening.
tim pool
So my understanding of the story is that it was a neighbor.
A neighbor saw him patrolling his property and said, it looks like there may be a break-in or something's
happening. So the cops pull up, they see a guy in what looks like pajamas with a rifle.
And he says, drop the gun!
Bang, bang, bang, bang.
ian crossland
He might have had like a coyote on his property or something.
Like no one knows why he was out there.
tim pool
Apparently he said something like he thought there was someone in his house.
The guard said in a call to the dispatcher, he almost seems to be scared of something inside his house.
ian crossland
So what about the neighbor?
The neighbor that instigated this?
Should that person be charged too?
tim pool
Did you guys see the video?
There's an old, I think it was an old black man, watering flowers.
And the cops show up and they're like, what are you doing?
And he's like, watering the flowers.
And they're like, do you live here?
And he's like, no, this is my friend's house.
And they were like, why are you here?
And he's like, my friend's out of town.
They asked me to water their flowers.
I live next door.
And they're like, you're under arrest.
They arrest the guy.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, my response, none of your business.
I plead the fifth.
tim pool
And they were like, give us your ID.
And the neighbors are like, oh yeah, we didn't realize that was him.
He is friends with this guy.
And the cops are like, don't care.
Then there's a video out of Florida where a guy who's legally blind is walking down the street with his walking cane in his pocket.
He's not pitch black blind.
He's blind to where everything's blurry, but he can walk without, you know, hitting something.
And so this lady cop, she's like, what's in your pocket?
And he's like, holds it up.
It's a walking cane.
Are we done?
And she goes, give me your ID.
And he goes, what?
No, I don't have to.
They arrest him.
I'm sick of this man.
luke rudkowski
I mean, Kyle, when you were turning yourself in, the police officers pepper sprayed you.
kyle rittenhouse
Yeah, I went up to the police car.
luke rudkowski
They pepper sprayed Kyle when he was trying to surrender to the police that night.
shane cashman
When you walked by?
kyle rittenhouse
So after the incident happened that night, I walked up to the police car, hands in the air.
I told the officer, I was like, I just shot somebody.
I just shot somebody.
I was pepper sprayed.
I don't remember being pepper sprayed, but it's on video.
shane cashman
Your adrenaline was He's probably wild.
kyle rittenhouse
Yeah, so I'm not disputing that's happened.
tim pool
He just sprays you.
kyle rittenhouse
I read the police report.
The police report said they pepper sprayed me and pointed a gun at me.
tim pool
They're not there for you and they don't care.
They're not there for anybody.
kyle rittenhouse
Just to think, the police could have killed me that night with my hands in the air if I didn't step away from the police car.
tim pool
I think in any sane society.
luke rudkowski
Well, me and Tim got guns pulled on us by Chicago police officers.
kyle rittenhouse
That's Chicago police.
luke rudkowski
I took out a camera and they thought, you know, the camera could have been something.
They literally freaking cocked a gun.
tim pool
Well, well, so we get surrounded by, like, 12 vehicles in Chicago.
They start walking up to the car.
It's an illegal search, in my opinion.
Banging on it, saying, get out of the car, gun's drawn.
They pull us out.
They frisk us.
They took our credit card numbers.
They wrote them down.
They wrote down passport numbers from our IDs.
And they started trying to find secret compartments in the car.
They were banging on our equipment, thinking it was, like, fake.
And then, all of a sudden, some cop, they cuffed me.
luke rudkowski
They cuffed me, too?
tim pool
Yeah.
This cop walks up, and he goes, you matched the description.
And then he makes a gesture, and then they uncuff me, and they're like, get out.
luke rudkowski
Meanwhile, the car we had had New Mexico plates.
And we were in Chicago.
And I'm like, match the description of what?
Was there a crime with a car with a Chicago plate?
With a New Mexico plate in Chicago?
That made absolutely no sense at all.
12 squad cars.
It was, again, another incident that we had to deal with.
One of many that I have to deal with that is just absolutely draconian and insane, and we need pushback against these officers that are just following orders, doing what they're told.
I don't understand people who could back the blue.
I don't understand individuals who could still do this after everything that's been happening, to be honest with you.
kyle rittenhouse
You know, I don't think it's police on their own.
I think police are inherently good.
I think the law enforcement, I think they go in there to do good things.
I'm pro-blue.
luke rudkowski
I disagree.
kyle rittenhouse
That's OK.
But I think I'm pro-blue.
I think it's in the leadership.
I think the leadership there are like appointed chiefs who are appointed by these liberals.
And these officers are scared to do the right thing.
I mean, look at the officer who was fired for donating to my legal defense.
He was fired.
I don't think it's necessarily the officers.
I think it's the sergeants who are maybe, like, sucking up to the supervisors and people in the department trying to get a promotion.
Not the officers who are out there doing the right thing on a daily basis.
tim pool
But you're right about the supervisors, but in terms of the police in general, people are people.
unidentified
Right?
tim pool
There are good cops, the ones that were defending you, and then there are bad cops who just don't care and will just follow orders.
kyle rittenhouse
But just like in any career, there's bad journalists, but there's also good journalists.
Not all cops are bad.
luke rudkowski
But there's also very few good journalists, and let's be honest here, there's also very few good cops here.
A lot of them are order followers, a lot of them predominantly generate revenue for the state, and in many instances in my life, and in many instances of the average American's life, when they need them, they're not there for them.
There are a few instances where they are, and they deserve to be commended and respected, but very rarely.
I mean, there's laws on the books here in the United States that says the police officers do not have a duty to protect you.
And there's been multiple cases, especially with my friend Joe Lizito in New York City, where there was a lunatic, a mass murderer, running around that was stabbing my friend Joe in the head.
Police officers were standing there watching by.
Then, of course, when Joe took him down, police officers took credit for taking him down, even though they never did.
And then they claimed Joe was a victim when Joe was the actual hero of that day.
Joe Lizzito's survival story.
Look it up.
Be prepared to be shocked to see what police officers could do.
tim pool
So I'm looking at what's going on a lot now with these cops, and a lot of them are following orders.
COVID, I think, proved too many, too many of these cops will destroy you for their own personal gain.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
We saw state troopers go into a bar in New York because the bar wanted to open and New York was like, nope, you gotta shut down.
A block away, it was a green zone where businesses were allowed to operate.
So the bar owner is basically like, okay, we're not selling anything more.
It's a hangout.
Everything's free.
So the local cops were like, I'm not...
I'm not going anywhere near this.
You'll destroy my life.
My neighbors will get mad at me.
So they called in state troopers to come and block the doors.
And those cops were like, don't know, don't care.
You can't live your life.
But I want to make sure I say this too.
Because it's not fair to only highlight the bad.
I do want to tell a story of when I was in Chicago.
And some guy tried mugging me and out of nowhere three cops popped out and grabbed this guy and slammed him into a iron fence and this is like a 55 year old fat white cop with gray hair grabbed the guy by the collar spun him around slammed him into a fence and screamed Not in my town!
In his face.
And they asked me if I was okay.
Asked me to file a report.
And they legitimately... That was a rare experience for me.
But I don't want to sit here and just be like, all cops are bad, all cops are bad.
I've had good experiences, but I've had too many bad experiences.
luke rudkowski
They need to not be empowered to make those bad decisions.
And when they make bad decisions, and when they make bad calls, they should be held responsible for it.
And let's be honest, rarely do they ever get held responsible for it.
You look at what happened in Uvalde.
You look at what happened in Parkland.
Police officers there literally stood down.
tim pool
Well, those guys are getting held accountable, aren't they?
Like, they're getting in trouble, getting criminally charged?
luke rudkowski
Yes, but those are two egregious, mainline, big stories that the world has heard of.
There's other stories that didn't make the narrative, that didn't make national headlines, where we see this time and time again.
As far as Yuvaldi, you have to fight to get justice in these particular cases.
You shouldn't.
We should have a system where if someone makes a mistake or someone hurts someone else, they actually get held responsible.
There shouldn't be victims' family members in Parkland coming forward and demanding justice for the officers that were just standing by with their hands in their pocket.
That's what I'm calling for.
Again, judge a person by their character, not by who they are.
But at the end of the day, I think we have a core systemic corruption issue.
tim pool
You mean judge them by their character and who they are, but not their job?
luke rudkowski
Exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
kyle rittenhouse
I think in some instance, like most departments, there is a corruption issue.
Like, we don't get good sheriffs elected.
There are a lot of great sheriffs out there, but look at the county I grew up in, Lake County, Illinois.
I think that sheriff is as corrupt as they get.
I think it's a department issue with the heads.
I don't think it's necessarily the officers.
I think it may be the officers scared to disobey out of fear of losing their pension, their job, because they have families they need to provide for.
luke rudkowski
But that's the same argument that, you know, a lot of German SS officers were making when they were putting people into camps, right?
tim pool
They didn't want to be in camps themselves, they said, we'll go along with it.
So, I'll say, you're right.
It's the leadership, and a lot of these guys don't know, and this is another big challenge.
I remember asking an active service member 15 years ago, if you were instructed to shoot a civilian walking down the street by your commanding officer, would you do it?
And they said, yeah, that sounds like a really crazy question, right?
Like, as if to imply some military officer or some soldier is so stupid and so brainwashed that they would kill an innocent person.
But think about what this means.
If you are in an active conflict situation, and you are ordered to stop that person, This could be a person armed with a weapon we don't know about.
This could be a person who's got a bomb that we don't know about.
They're telling you you have to stop them because you trust the people you're with not to hurt innocent people.
So... You think about this... This is an issue with police, right?
Just, sorry, to make the point.
You got a regular cop who's like 24, 25 years old and he's told you need to arrest this guy.
He's not gonna stop and say, well, my superior officer told me I need to arrest you, but I wanna hear your side of the story.
No, he's gonna be like, this guy's dangerous, and they want me to stop him.
So I agree with you on supervisors, but there's gotta be some degree of pushback with a story like this where the homeowner's killed.
That dude should not have just jumped out and shot him.
That's not an issue of superior officers.
kyle rittenhouse
No, I agree with that instance.
And you gotta think about this for a second.
Police officers responding to a lot of these scenes, they're getting told what's happening via radio
and a lot of miscommunication.
Like, they like hear, it may get lost in the connection.
You're talking to 911, they're talking to the person sitting next to them, they're relaying to the officer,
the officer's adrenaline's pumping, they're going lights and sirens to get to that situation.
They could be hearing, there's a man with a gun, this, that, and that, and then they get there,
there's a person with a gun, they don't know what's happening,
and then it could also be how the officers train.
I don't know how Austin PD trains their officers, but.
tim pool
I wanna say one last thing before we go to Super Chats 2.
Being from Chicago, when your story was going down, I knew all these areas.
And so I think that provided a lot of good context for us.
Because you get this narrative from the left about, he crossed state lines.
And I'm like, Antioch?
It's like 20 minutes driving across the street.
kyle rittenhouse
I mean, go to the Costco in Kenosha.
tim pool
Look at it.
Yeah.
Let's go to Super Chats.
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Get in your Super Chats.
We'll try to read as many as possible.
We've got a whole bunch, so I really do appreciate it.
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We're going to have a members-only show coming up for you.
It goes up around 11 p.m.
Eastern, so we record it after we wrap up here.
We do the uncensored recorded version.
And, uh, I just want to say this is an amazing setup.
So special thank you to TPUSA Turning Point for, uh, look at this, this gigantic screen behind us.
It's just, I'm so jealous.
And I'm like, we really got to up our game.
shane cashman
We're taking that home.
tim pool
We're going to dismantle it.
We're going to take it.
Shane's going to carry it.
ian crossland
It's a bunch of little screens put together to make one big one.
tim pool
That's so crazy.
That's wild.
shane cashman
And the format of the- How about the Charlie Kirk cutouts in the bathrooms?
Have you experienced that?
luke rudkowski
I did that.
tim pool
Oh my goodness!
luke rudkowski
You did that?
I saw the cutout.
I'm like, let me just move in here.
shane cashman
Yeah, keep it there.
Super intrusive.
luke rudkowski
I'm gonna meet you, Charlie.
I'm sorry, TPUSA.
I rearranged some things here.
I just couldn't control myself.
shane cashman
Redecorate.
tim pool
This whole compound they have is amazing, so a special thank you to Charlie Kirk.
When we had an error with this setup yesterday, they let us go into Charlie's personal studio with his name and everything, and got to use his desk and all that, so I do appreciate it.
You know, coming out here, we needed a way to do the show, and they built this for us, and so it is an honor and a privilege.
But let's read some superchats!
I'm just gonna read them here off my phone.
Today.
So let's see.
We got a good one.
Jake Swift says Thomas Anderson of MySpace needs to become the CEO of Twitter.
That was Neo's original name in the Matrix.
Let's make sure our hero story come to life to wake more people up and show the truth.
Good to see you on the show, Kyle.
His name's Tom Anderson?
ian crossland
I knew it was MySpace Tom.
tim pool
When Elon said I want to find a CEO, MySpace Tom posted his MySpace profile picture.
And I'm like, I say yes.
luke rudkowski
My friend knows him.
unidentified
I can reach out.
luke rudkowski
I have a mutual with Tom.
We do get Tom on the show.
tim pool
Yeah!
Oh, hit him up!
I think there's a meme about it.
It's like, he never sold your data, he never spied on you or the government, he never censored you, he just gave you a place to hang out with your friends, and then he left to go live his life.
shane cashman
The most drama we had on MySpace was who's in your top 8, top 12, top 24, so I kept adding it, but I enjoyed MySpace.
tim pool
And Kyle's like, what's MySpace?
shane cashman
Yeah, right?
kyle rittenhouse
Isn't that, like, before Facebook?
ian crossland
Yes!
shane cashman
You know the timeline.
ian crossland
Dude, I would love to talk to Tom, because I remember when Myspace fell apart.
It didn't really fall apart.
It just stopped.
Like, there was a month where they just couldn't handle the server load.
shane cashman
After Justin Timberlake bought it?
ian crossland
No, before that.
It was in 2006.
tim pool
Alright, we got one from The Doja Bird.
He says, this tip is just for Ian.
Keep rolling 20s, bro.
ian crossland
You know it, baby.
tim pool
It was funny yesterday when Luke was like, Ian fell off the stage.
We're really worried.
We're rooting for you, Ian.
unidentified
He got injured.
ian crossland
I rolled a one on my stage presence.
luke rudkowski
I wasn't lying.
He did fall off stage.
ian crossland
But then I rolled a 20 on my constitution check and I felt fine.
luke rudkowski
You did get a little hurt.
unidentified
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
And I'm rooting for you.
ian crossland
You know, I haven't been stretching my lower back.
I've been sitting a lot.
That's why I think I got a little bit of a back tug when I landed.
shane cashman
You looked really good as you fell, though.
Like the coat, the pants.
ian crossland
Oh, nice.
tim pool
It was like a movie fall.
You were like, yeah!
And you just went down.
ian crossland
You know?
Just beautiful.
Go for it.
tim pool
All right, what do we got?
Kerry Green says, Tim, the crew and Kyle, awesome show.
Can't wait.
Abolish the FBI.
shane cashman
Yes.
tim pool
I thought it was funny when Luke said that and the entire audience of conservatives went...
They're all screaming and cheering.
luke rudkowski
It was a good moment.
shane cashman
It was.
tim pool
Luke's like, this is my moment.
shane cashman
He floated out of that stage.
tim pool
Been waiting 15 years for this.
shane cashman
The NFL, he levitated off.
luke rudkowski
Finally, they're listening and not booing.
They used to boo.
They're like, boo!
Back to blue!
unidentified
Away!
luke rudkowski
Then I'm like, come on, guys.
tim pool
Here we go, this one's important.
And I got a question for you, Kyle, but Christina H says, I cried like a baby when this kid's verdict came in.
God bless you, Kyle.
I know that you probably had a tremendous sigh of relief, or the feeling must have been indescribable, but I'm wondering if you've heard that a lot from people, that they were crying when your verdict came in.
kyle rittenhouse
I have, I have, and I think it was actually a win for America.
I think people were like, yes, finally, a win for America, and I think America needed it, because all these things going around with us, like around us, just people losing, and just with the election stuff, and people really needed this.
shane cashman
I was driving.
And I pulled over to hear it and teared up.
And I was just like, we were in West Virginia.
I was just like, I needed to stop and just focus.
I couldn't be driving.
luke rudkowski
We were watching it in the RV as it was developing right before our major show.
tim pool
Canadian Egg says, Kyle bro, I watched a lot of the Kenosha stuff live and followed your story all the way through.
Your verdict was on my birthday and I cried when you were acquitted.
Justice isn't dead.
Glad you're free, man.
God bless.
You know Destiny, the commentator?
kyle rittenhouse
Yeah, I've heard of Destiny.
tim pool
He's like a liberal guy.
kyle rittenhouse
Yeah.
tim pool
He got suspended on Twitch because he said your story was the clearest cut case of self-defense he'd ever seen.
So they suspended his account.
shane cashman
Wow.
tim pool
That's Twitch for you, man.
That's crazy.
Think of- Narrative control, you know?
kyle rittenhouse
Real quick, think about all the censorship.
How many people's accounts got banned off of social media?
I mean, just recently on Instagram, on Meta, I could actually put my name, Kyle Rittenhouse, in my own profile.
ian crossland
Wow.
tim pool
That's crazy.
kyle rittenhouse
You know what's funny?
I posted something on Twitter about it a day before and then I tried it the next day.
So I know, I feel like they're definitely looking at my posts because they're like, oh shoot, he noticed.
We're going to go ahead and lift this real quick.
tim pool
All right, Son of Nothing says, audio is hot.
High pass Shane and lower DBS.
luke rudkowski
I told the crew that because I saw in the beginning everyone was complaining about that, so I told them and I think they fixed it midstream.
ian crossland
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Is it fixed?
shane cashman
I think I know Son of Nothing.
Shout out Pat.
Pretty sure that's what it is.
tim pool
Audio is always really, really hard.
luke rudkowski
I heard everyone's complaining in the beginning saying it was really bad.
ian crossland
Shout out to Serge and Kellen working the machine in a new machine, new environment.
luke rudkowski
Serge, behind the scenes.
ian crossland
Get the ground running.
tim pool
Stunning and Brave says, take my money before it gets sent to Ukraine.
Yeah, your money's getting sent no matter what, huh?
How about that?
Here we go.
What do we have here?
What is this one?
I don't know what that one's about.
Let's see this.
AKStorm49 says, watching 30 minutes behind, but I'm glad to see Kyle on the show.
Can you get the AK guy on Timcast IRL?
He'd be great to have to discuss 2A and firearms in general.
luke rudkowski
Brandon Herrera.
Yes, we were supposed to do it a while ago.
We were supposed to do the interview last year.
I think something else came up.
But you know, Brandon, I think you're doing some work with him, aren't you?
kyle rittenhouse
Yeah, yeah, I know Brennan.
I was actually just out at the range with him a couple weeks ago.
Great guy.
He is hilarious.
I saw... So I went to his place, just like hung out for a little bit.
His warehouse where he makes AKs.
He didn't have the AK-50 there for me to see and I was a little jealous.
unidentified
Yeah, that looks like a... Pretty incredible piece of machinery there.
tim pool
I'm really excited for these ones.
Doc Holiday says, Luke can't control his TDS.
Poor Sop.
Luke's TDS is a severe mental sickness.
unidentified
That's your opinion?
luke rudkowski
That's fine that you believe that.
I like to live in reality.
tim pool
Can we just shout out Kyle Kalinske who called Luke a Trump supporter?
luke rudkowski
I know Kyle.
Kyle, come on man.
tim pool
That's not cool. That was really cool. We're gonna have him on at some point. I was talking to him
like I messaged him after he did that. I was like, bro, Luke has TDS. And he and he started laughing.
And he was like, we talked about it. And he was like, okay, you know, but he because because
Luke criticized Trump for the NFTs. I guess Kyle thought you were a Trump supporter criticizing
luke rudkowski
him. Now. I'm sorry, I'm criticizing your savior.
I apologize that I'm stopping the groupthink.
I'm so sorry I'm breaking your cognitive, what is it, dissidence?
I'm so sorry.
ian crossland
Luke does not have TDS.
He just calls out what he sees.
I know you pretty well.
I mean he's very objective about stuff and he gives credit to Donald Trump and Donald Trump does good stuff.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, just like you should with anybody.
tim pool
Alright, ZeroOneOfOne says, Are you familiar with shorting stocks?
The banks are shorting the American dollar.
Borrow big now, run the value down, then pay it off at a discount.
Is that what they're doing?
ian crossland
Was the first part they run the value?
tim pool
They're shorting the US dollar?
ian crossland
Oh, so many people are right now.
tim pool
Digaboom says, Alex Jones said Epstein was a pawn
and did a whole explanation of their operation and his level in the hierarchy,
but you know, conspiracy theory.
ian crossland
We could do a behind-the-scenes show or like on TimCast.com with Alex, the whole episode about Epstein, just get to the bottom of it.
We'll go deep.
I don't know if there's a bottom.
luke rudkowski
Is he supposed to come on?
tim pool
Yeah, I think we're going to have Alex come out soon.
luke rudkowski
I'll find out.
tim pool
Super excited.
shane cashman
You should also try to talk to Whitney Webb about it.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, she would be a great guest.
I recommended her as a guest a couple weeks ago, but I think she's in Chile.
But yeah, I've been trying to get Whitney Webb last year on the show.
tim pool
We'll fly her out.
unidentified
I'd love to have her on.
She's incredible.
ian crossland
Have you been on Info Wars?
No.
Have you, Kyle?
kyle rittenhouse
I have not.
ian crossland
It'll be a good show.
It'll be fun.
Alex is awesome.
Have you talked to Alex at all?
kyle rittenhouse
I have not.
tim pool
Michael Williams says, Lawyer here.
Lawyers can't ask leading questions of their own direct witnesses, but they can and do ask leading questions of the opposing party's witnesses on cross-examination.
Well, there you go.
That's why it's always annoying when cross-examination is just like, did you stop beating your wife yesterday or the day before?
ian crossland
You're like, neither.
And then they're like, so you're still beating your wife?
You're like, that's not what I said!
kyle rittenhouse
It's so painful.
Especially, like... Did you stop beating your wife?
tim pool
Yes or no?
It's a simple yes or no question.
Did you stop beating your wife?
That's the, that's the famous one.
ian crossland
And if you're like, no, because I never, so they're like, ah, that's no, yes or no?
You're like, I never, no.
tim pool
And then just say you don't understand the question.
And then the implication to people watching is that you do.
kyle rittenhouse
Curious what would happen if that question came up and you just said, yes, did you stop being your wife?
When did you stop?
I never started.
tim pool
Yes.
When did you stop?
I don't know how you knew this, but it was actually just the other day.
All right.
What do we have here?
Waffle Sense, it says the government killed JFK and people think the government was listening to Trump as the president.
The presidency is not where power lies.
It is simply a power that lies.
Oh, look at that.
That was clever, huh?
Very clever.
Let's grab another one here.
What do we got?
Alright.
Let's see what we have here.
Dalimar says they wanted to throw Kyle in jail for life because they wanted to send a message that no one else should ever defend themselves or their loved ones or town in a violent manner ever.
They wanted a pacified and scared population.
Go to work and take meds, don't breed.
ian crossland
Which is so crazy.
That is so crazy.
For national defense, why would you want that?
You want your armed civilian populace to be able to defend itself if there's an invasion.
tim pool
Unless they're pro-China.
kyle rittenhouse
Because the government wants control of everything.
tim pool
Or they're pro-China, and they want the U.S.
to be weakened so that it can be gutted.
They're gutting us economically, that's for sure.
unidentified
There you go.
tim pool
Alright, it feels so quiet on my headphones.
Like, because there's no ambient sound.
Yeah, keep doing that as I'm about to read.
luke rudkowski
People are saying your mic looks like it's wearing a hat.
unidentified
It is wearing a hat.
tim pool
Alright, Dan Diggler says, Tim, you should help Steven Crowder set up his own independent site on Parallel Economy since he left The Blaze.
I love what you guys are doing and can't wait to get back stateside when your coffee shops are open.
I am so excited for the coffee shops.
A lot of work's gotta go in to make that, but we're gonna get it going and hopefully in a couple weeks we'll have the coffee to sell.
It's being worked on right now.
And then hopefully within a month or two we will have a functioning open coffee shop people can hang out at.
ian crossland
I got a product.
Luke's coffee enemas.
tim pool
That's a good idea.
Yeah.
And we'll have a private booth where people can go in and Luke can administer his coffee enemas.
ian crossland
We were talking about doing a Luke coffee, but it'd be decaf.
tim pool
Oh yeah.
Luke's decaf espresso blend.
luke rudkowski
Let's do it.
shane cashman
Decaf enemas.
tim pool
It's good for your digestion.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's excellent for affogatos.
luke rudkowski
Perfect.
tim pool
That's great.
A scoop of vanilla ice cream, splash of decaf on top.
luke rudkowski
We'll miss what you're sleep.
And we'll clean you out?
tim pool
You know, Crowder left the blaze.
And he's launching Mug Club forever.
I just assumed he's doing his own thing.
That's what he has on his website.
I don't think Crowder needs our help.
ian crossland
I want to make movies with you, Steve.
tim pool
Yeah, he's substantially bigger than our show.
unidentified
He's huge.
kyle rittenhouse
Great dude.
ian crossland
Steven Dave, dude.
Let's do it.
tim pool
Dung Is Fun says, Disney has been part of propaganda and also racism.
Why haven't they been cancelled?
Watch black and white films and you wouldn't understand.
I think people have complained about old Disney.
They complain a lot about Disney.
Yeah.
Just Leave Me Alone says, Kyle is getting information overload from you guys.
Yes.
luke rudkowski
Did you feel like that?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
It's like we may as well be speaking German.
luke rudkowski
We were going easy, too.
Just a heads up.
kyle rittenhouse
I actually think this is really fun.
It's very educational.
Especially for my youth.
You know, I have a question for you, Tim.
What is your guys' viewer range?
Do you guys range from 18 to 30 or 30 to 70?
Do you guys like range from like 18 to 30 or like 30 to 70?
Like what's your guys' age range?
tim pool
It's the, obviously we hit every age.
I think there are people who are under 18 for the most part, but very, very tiny sliver.
The 18 to 54.
Then there is, I think, the biggest is 24 to 35.
Then it's, I think, 35 or 36 to 54.
And then 18 to 24.
So that's the do-do-do.
So most people, I'd say the average person watching this show is a 30-year-old guy named John.
shane cashman
We did meet a few 50-year-old women this weekend who were saying, like, we have a lot of 50-year-old women watching you, so.
tim pool
They do, they do.
kyle rittenhouse
That's my geographic.
A lot of older women.
tim pool
Good news, though, is that when the show started it was 90% male, now it's 80% male.
ian crossland
That is extremely good news.
tim pool
Yeah, more women are tuning in to the show.
luke rudkowski
There was one lady that came up to you when I was there, and she was like, 55-year-olds dig you.
I remember that.
And you were making some comments there about older ladies there.
Kyle, do you wish to expand on those a little bit?
shane cashman
What are you talking about?
That's for the members only, dude.
unidentified
Come on.
ian crossland
I think a lot of older women can identify with feminism as it was, like second wave feminism.
Legit, like equality of opportunity for people.
luke rudkowski
And so they see what we're doing People are putting their age in the chat, so I think that's pretty cool.
So put your age in the chat, just so we can see a perspective of who's here.
tim pool
24, 52, 41, 71!
Shout out, 71!
And how many of you guys have someone else in the room?
777, shout out!
ian crossland
People watch the show with their kids.
Some people was like, hey, my one-year-old, he looks up when you get passionate.
Don't do that anymore.
I'm like, sorry, bro.
shane cashman
That's right.
That's why when I was in Georgia, when I was in Georgia doing the last book, they were like, you got to tell Tim, like, there's usually like six of us in a room watching.
So the viewership is like more, you know.
tim pool
Right.
shane cashman
It's like families are literally watching together and I saw it happen.
luke rudkowski
Or just people put it on their speaker phones and they're working doing other stuff.
That's what we did on the farm when we were in New Hampshire.
We were working on trucks and we just put it on a big speaker and a bunch of us were working on the truck and listening to the show.
tim pool
I am, you know, whenever I come out and see stuff like what Turning Point is doing, when I went to the Blazes studios, these are really important for me because it's deeply inspirational and I wouldn't say jealousy is the right word, because I see what they have and I want it.
I don't want theirs.
I want my own.
And so, Turning Point has this massive compound.
It's insane how huge this is.
They're able to build this entire studio rig with this big screen, and I'm like, we need to be able to do this stuff too.
I wouldn't call it jealousy.
I don't want theirs.
I see what they have and I'm like, this is what we need to build so we can do more shows, we can bring on more journalists.
And we've been working on the non-profit for fact-checking and building the browser extension and doing all that stuff so we can start rating news agencies.
It's just taken a really long time to file.
Then you've got to file in every single state.
Then we've got to do fundraising.
But I am deeply inspired by what they've got going on at Turning Point, so I'm really excited to see what we can end up doing in the future.
I think these coffee shops are gonna be amazing because I want to create physical places where people can hang out.
And you know that when you're hanging out there, you guys share values.
Because we're gonna put signs up in the window.
We're not gonna be ashamed to be pro-America.
We're not gonna be scared of the far-left lunatics.
We're not gonna put, please don't hurt us in the window.
We're gonna put, come hang out if you like America and you believe in meritocracy.
Play some games, have some coffee, watch some shows.
kyle rittenhouse
Are you gonna take over the Starbucks?
That's a real question.
tim pool
I want to put my stores next to Starbucks and I want to undercut them into oblivion.
I want to subsidize my stores to make the corporate stores unprofitable.
kyle rittenhouse
Not to call you out, Tim, but I noticed you're drinking something right there.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, you're very caffeinated there.
In the shot, you're drinking some high fructose corn syrup, GMO, glyphosate-filled corporate coffee.
Two of those things?
Come on, get that poison out of here.
And plastic leaching water?
Come on, we could do better.
I actually had, um... Shane, what are you drinking there?
Mellow Mushroom?
shane cashman
It's Charlie Kirk's brand, I guess.
Sparkling water.
Charlie Kirkland.
luke rudkowski
But in your shot, Tim, you have two coffees.
Starbucks coffee.
tim pool
Well, they're not.
This one's Ian's.
ian crossland
I don't know that.
tim pool
And I only drank a little bit and I stopped because it's all sugar.
And I couldn't do it.
luke rudkowski
It really is.
tim pool
That stuff is horrible for you.
I had a Nespresso, which is arguably worse, but healthy, I guess.
luke rudkowski
Delicious.
tim pool
Yeah, but we're launching our own coffee thing.
So in the future, we're going to have a... Well, I don't want to say too much until we're ready to launch it, but we're going to have our own.
shane cashman
Tim's got them next to him because he's taking them to the shooting range.
tim pool
Because we're gonna say no to Starbucks.
kyle rittenhouse
Have you ever had Cuban coffee?
tim pool
Cuban?
I think so.
luke rudkowski
I do in Miami all the time.
It's really good.
kyle rittenhouse
Delicious.
luke rudkowski
It's really thick.
kyle rittenhouse
It's sweet.
I think it's like brewed over sugar, right?
tim pool
Have you ever had Turkish coffee?
kyle rittenhouse
No, tell me about it.
tim pool
So they put the grounds in the cup with the hot water and then the grounds sink to the bottom and the coffee goes to the top and you just you sip it.
And so I love When people, when I was in Turkey, and people would be like, you want to get a Turkish coffee?
I'd say, okay, and they would get it, and I'd be like, don't forget to stir.
And they'd go, oh, okay, and they'd ruin it.
They'd stir it up and get all the grounds mixed up, and then, what?
unidentified
There's grounds in it, and I was like, yeah, yeah, I ruined your coffee, I gotcha, gotcha.
tim pool
All right, let's read some more of these here, superchats.
Flufferboy2004 says, now people will get what my name means.
Wasn't it like someone found his email address?
kyle rittenhouse
Yeah, yeah.
Somebody found the prosecutor's email.
And I saw that and I started laughing.
Do you know, like, the scandal that's going on with the judge in Kenosha County?
unidentified
What?
tim pool
There's a scandal now?
What do you mean?
kyle rittenhouse
Like, there's, like, a scandal thing.
Like, apparently he's sleeping on some judge's couch.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Wait, it's a scandal because he's on someone's couch?
kyle rittenhouse
He's sleeping on some judge's couch and then his wife, like, divorced him.
tim pool
Wait, wait, the judges?
kyle rittenhouse
Yeah, not traitors, on a different judge's couch.
tim pool
No, no, wait, wait, wait.
Fluffer boy is sleeping on a judge's couch?
kyle rittenhouse
So, Banger is sleeping on a judge's couch.
tim pool
Well, as of last time I read this... I'd feel bad for him if he wasn't so evil.
kyle rittenhouse
You know, but the thing is, his, like, wife divorced him previously and, like, he has a house.
That's the funny thing.
He has a house, but he's pictured with this judge and, like, all these places, like, at the lake, doing all these things and...
You know, people are really starting to think, like... He's got a friend in the judge?
ian crossland
Did you get the vibe that he was just trying to do his job and get you prosecuted, or that he actually believed it?
kyle rittenhouse
I think he was so... I thought he may have really believed it.
I think he told himself enough times, he looked in the mirror, I am right, I am right, I am right, that he believed it.
You know, he probably gave himself a pep talk every time he went into court.
He'd go into the bathroom and he would say, You can do this.
Believe in yourself.
shane cashman
He called himself Flufferboy in the mirror.
kyle rittenhouse
He's like, you got this, Flufferboy.
tim pool
He'd look in the mirror and go, I'm not evil.
I mean, a little bit, maybe.
kyle rittenhouse
But I'm not.
unidentified
But it's okay, because I get money.
tim pool
That's crazy to me.
I don't understand how people could do something like that.
kyle rittenhouse
And then just waste taxpayer money.
tim pool
Alright, let's read some more.
J.R.
says, I did not cry when my father died, but when Kyle was pronounced innocent live, I shouted, F yeah, and broke down.
It was because it gave me hope the system isn't entirely broken.
It just needs salvaging.
Hear, hear, man.
It was a crazy day.
I, like, ran out and I was like, oh, we got the news!
Homie's free!
That was amazing.
People were crying.
Ian fell down and went, ah!
Tears sprang from his face.
ian crossland
It was, it was, that's a big deal.
kyle rittenhouse
My knees buckled in because I was, I didn't know if the jury was going to do the right thing.
And I walked in there and I was just like, I was prepared.
I was like, I don't, I don't know what can happen.
Like they can be like, they can be like afraid to like deliver a not guilty verdict.
And this can, this is going to determine my life.
shane cashman
Were you like thinking of like the future you could have had like leading up to that day or like trying not to think about it at all?
kyle rittenhouse
You know, I was just focused on the trial.
I was just focused on getting found not guilty.
But when those, that, that couple seconds leading in walking into that room, like, okay, anything can happen here.
Um, I'm either going to walk out of this courtroom a free man, or I'm going to be shackled and put in a prison cell.
tim pool
So, Darth Maul says, you have to watch the full video.
Raj fired two rounds.
The neighbor mentioned that to dispatch and dispatched to the cops.
They came in expecting a gunman.
Alright, well that changes things.
You know, that adds to the context.
shane cashman
He fired two rounds, the neighbors called, cops showed up.
Still shouldn't have died though.
tim pool
Yeah, tomorrow is going to be the last show of the year.
Because we have these fleeting opportunities to do the week after Christmas.
cast IRL of 2022 is more important. Yeah, tomorrow is going to be the last show of the
year because we have like these fleeting opportunities to do the week after Christmas. But the challenge
is this. You've got Christmas on Sunday and then Monday is when everyone's traveling back.
So we can't get a guest to come out on the day they're coming back from Christmas with
It's like, instead of flying home for Christmas, fly to our compound when you're tired, and we can't do that, so we're like, okay, we'll try Tuesday.
We had a guest, guest canceled, saying, guys, I can't travel.
Christmas, family stuff, sorry, I thought I could.
Then we had a guest on Wednesday, but I'm like, we can't just do a show on Wednesday and then we're done for the week, that's ridiculous.
It would just be like us sitting around, staring at the wall, being like, well, we can't really do anything.
And then, ultimately, I was just like, guys, should we just take the week off?
It's after Christmas, everyone wants to be with their families, and you got New Year's coming up.
Let's just go see our family.
ian crossland
It's actually more, how many days will we have?
We'll have the whole week after, we'll take Friday off, take all week next week off, and then days after that, you're back on Monday?
tim pool
It's like nine days, I think.
It's Saturday, Sunday, until then through the next seven days.
ian crossland
And I'll be back on the second of January, I believe.
Is it eight days?
shane cashman
That's the longest break you've taken?
ian crossland
Yeah.
From this show, for sure.
tim pool
Oh no, Friday as well.
We had nine days.
ian crossland
You're gonna keep doing that?
tim pool
Well, I mean, we took off, it was, we did two days the week of Thanksgiving.
Because, same issue, Wednesday was the travel day for Thanksgiving, so nobody wanted to come on the show, and I don't blame them.
And I'm like, we could do a show with our employees, but then we're asking them not to go see their families, so I was like, eh.
shane cashman
And you came back on Cyber Monday with Yay.
tim pool
Is that what we did?
shane cashman
Cyber Monday with Yay.
tim pool
I'll say this.
In hindsight, if I could go back in time, I would prepare the show, and then I would have Shane take my seat.
shane cashman
That would have been epic.
No, no, you guys are doing fine.
We need a Shane Yeh interview because you spent time with him and you guys have like a... I think, like I told you guys, I think the camera sometimes just changes people.
Changes a lot, sometimes.
tim pool
Here's what I think.
I don't know anything about Ye.
He was just another guest I was having on the show, and he knew I didn't know or care about his career or anything, but you were a genuine fan who knew so much about him that I think he realized you actually knew what you were talking about.
I think if you talked to him for five seconds as that show was starting, he would be like, okay, this guy knows me.
shane cashman
Right, and I wasn't even trying to be like, you know, fawning.
I was just like, I see how you apply your career and I think how you could apply it to politics by deconstructing music and, you know, all the stuff that I went to that you can read the article on Tim Cass.
tim pool
And Media Matters, when they were writing about all of the guests we had, they included that special smear of Ian where they said Ian Crosland is quoted as saying that Ye will save the Jews or something.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think refocusing Jewish people on God is what makes them Jewish.
And people are like, no, you're Jewish culturally, but I think you're an Israelite culturally.
You're from Jacob, the descendants of Jacob, who's Israel.
That's the culture.
Then the religion from, you know... They also said I worked for Infowars.
luke rudkowski
I never worked for Infowars.
shane cashman
No way.
tim pool
That's a false statement.
luke rudkowski
They're lying about that.
shane cashman
Recently they said that?
luke rudkowski
They said it in the article.
tim pool
They called Dave Smith a Nazi sympathizer or something?
Isn't he Jewish?
shane cashman
He is.
tim pool
That's so insane.
shane cashman
They wrote a hit piece on me last week, too.
They're really getting us.
tim pool
They called Michael Malice an election denier?
Media matters.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They called Michael Malice an election denier?
It's just, what?
Michael Malice is not an election denier.
shane cashman
We're here to keep the haters employed.
tim pool
Yeah, I guess so.
But I was like, basically, Media Matters put together the best of list.
Seth Dillon commented on it, and I was like, the bigger insult is they didn't put you at the top of the list, man.
You deserve better.
Babylon Bee, come on.
They're the ones who sparked Elon taking over Twitter, basically.
You should be at the top of the list.
Alright, what do we got?
We'll grab some more superchats here.
A lot of people are just basically saying Kyle's awesome.
Robbie Martinez says, Kyle is not wrong.
Former dispatcher here and total reform will not happen among police until the brass have retired.
kyle rittenhouse
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
tim pool
There you go.
luke rudkowski
Or they get replaced with worse monsters that will commit more atrocities on human beings and then follow all the orders and then screw humanity over and then put everyone in the trains and in the camps.
kyle rittenhouse
That's when we come in and we elect people that are actually good, honest people who are going to give the, to appoint good chiefs, electing good sheriffs.
It's our job as citizens to do that and do our research.
tim pool
Alright, let's grab one more super chat.
Timothy Soto says the Omnibus Bill has gun control in it and money for the ATF.
ian crossland
Alright, if they don't read that bill and they vote on it, I think that we should treat that like a felony, personally.
unidentified
Agreed.
tim pool
But, you know, yeah, they should abstain.
They should just say no.
Sorry, keep me away from it.
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Interestingly, Turning Point USA has done that for schools and young people.
And I think if we can do these coffee shops, we basically create an idea I had called Saturday Morning Cartoons, where families can come hang out in the morning, bring their kids, their kids can watch approved cartoons with good messaging.
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Kyle, do you want to shout anything out?
kyle rittenhouse
Yeah, if you want to help me in my civil lawsuit that I'm facing right now, you can go to www.givesengo.com forward slash Kyle Rittenhouse and leave a message or a kind word, a kind prayer, or donate to help me fight this and take on the left in court again.
tim pool
They're basically suing you over the Kenosha incident, even after you were acquitted.
kyle rittenhouse
Yes, the family of Anthony Huber.
ian crossland
Was he the guy that tried to hit you with a skateboard?
kyle rittenhouse
Yes.
tim pool
He didn't try, though.
He did hit you, didn't he?
kyle rittenhouse
He did.
I do have a dent in the back of my head.
unidentified
Wow.
Whoa.
tim pool
That's crazy.
Was it givesendgo.com slash Kyle Rittenhouse?
kyle rittenhouse
Yep.
www.givesendgo.com forward slash Kyle Rittenhouse.
tim pool
There's another way to help support the movement or individuals is helping support Kyle Rittenhouse, who's still fighting this fight quite literally.
So thanks for coming on, man.
I appreciate it.
Shane, what's going on?
shane cashman
I'm Shane Cashman here and online and I'm stoked to be here and I hope you support Kyle.
I am the author of Tales from the Inverted World.
You can watch season one on YouTube.
Season two is on TimCast exclusively.
We got the Tales from the Inverted World book at invertedworldbook.com and the new book should be out in a bit and in the meantime you can also look at the yay story I published on TimCast.
tim pool
And you're also covering the Carrie Lake trial.
You even got to meet with their campaign.
shane cashman
I talked to Carrie Lake yesterday.
It was incredible and was in trial day today and most of tomorrow.
Awesome.
That'll be out soon too.
luke rudkowski
Sweet.
My website is lukeuncensored.com.
By the way, I have an online journalism course on there called Change Media University.
I'll send you that after the show.
It's free for members.
And I also did a very important video on there that is titled.
This is why you need to be strong.
It's a very good video.
It's going to be a free video for people who are signed up on my email list on wearechange.org, but if you want to watch it now, you gotta become a member on lukeuncensored.com.
It's definitely worth the watch because you sign up.
That's why I'm here.
Thanks for having me.
ian crossland
You can portal through to any of my social media from iancrossland.net.
And again, thank you so much to Turning Point USA, Charlie.
Thank you so much for inviting us and letting us use your studio.
It's been incredible.
It's been inspiring.
I'm inspired to make videos.
I made a video today on my YouTube channel at Ian Crossland.
You can find it.
And I hope, go there, check it out, hit me up anytime.
Thanks again.
luke rudkowski
And I hope you appreciate my rearrangement here.
ian crossland
Oh, Surge!
How you doing, buddy?
tim pool
Surge been working.
unidentified
Hey!
luke rudkowski
Look at that!
unidentified
Yeah, we were trying to figure out with the audio.
I think we were just monitoring on the Razer laptop, and it was giving us all this weird echo and stuff.
Pulled up my phone, it was fine.
So, aside from all the initial stuff that I fixed, like the overdrive and all that stuff initially, it seemed like it was fine, so.
Thanks for hanging out with us, guys.
We appreciate it.
tim pool
Yeah, so tomorrow will be the one show we did here at TPSA headquarters that will go off without a hitch.
So thanks for hanging out, everybody.
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